>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>581149215
deadlock needs more bbws
>>581236676Ava sex
i play victor i dont even shoot the gun i just press w
>>581236771short for "beautiful black women"
mokrill is a nigger character for niggers>builds full damage>is invincible anyways
>>581238007If a Mo builds full damage he's still not killing anyone unless they're afk
>>581238164i love how the full damage mkill doesn't ever ult either and usually just dies
hmmm today do I waste my life playing random street brawl, or getting molested in vrchat?
>>581238891play standard and get molested and keep trying to erp with whoever killed you last
>>581238891Dunno why they didn't make brool pick from 3 random heroes like hots.It's too samey with free pick.
>>581239000This is what I do every time I'm getting dumpstered by a Silver. They're so horny. All of them are so horny. One time I was about to get raped by an ulting silver for the 5th or 6th time in the same match, I paused and just asked to hold hands. We both walked up to the bridge and crouched at each other until her ult ran out, and then went our separate ways. Flirting with silvers....... yum.............
>>581239158Knockdown is explicitly stated to be an anti-mobility item, it's just fucking worthless because of counterspell/dispel magic and the fact that it takes so long to go off, so you can just get on a building and it no longer does anything.And yes, Celeste has an extremely overloaded kit. Her abilities shouldn't all be three things at once. Why does she need to have lifesteal and bonus spirit damage on a nuke? Why does she need a gigantic impossible to miss spammable charge-based AoE that also acts as a second Escalating Exposure for her? Why does her gun need to auto aim? Why does her shield need to silence on top of doing damage? Because she's a blatant favorite of some tranny on the dev team.
>>581239360You know you can just pick random
>>581239360SILENCE VALVE IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME DEV OF ALL TIME
>>581239452Yet you can't make everyone pick random
The game is a coin flip at this point. Either the enemies have warden and wraith and they snowball out of control within 10 minutes or you get warden and wraith and they prove to be the most retarded players alive.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/717606I hope this becomes a remodel someday.
>>581239546>Abrams on the enemy team: literally unkillable tank with double my farm>Abrams on my team: coughing baby. 1 and 17.
>>581239830>what is eomm
why do """""pros""""" keep screeching for draft when the roster isn't big enough for it, nearly half the roster is in any given match, draft won't change shit
>>581239830Let's see what this dick can do
>>581239452The fuck does that have to do with everyone else, did you even read his post?
>>581239450>Knockdown is explicitly stated to be an anti-mobility itemIt just sucks in general, the moment you can luxury buy it the enemy buys anti cc early.>Celeste has an extremely overloaded kitAgreed but that's a majority of the Deadlock roster. See Wraith who has mobility, hard CC, infinite ammo...>Why does she need to have lifestealBecause otherwise she'd lose every trade at her intended combat range. Most characters are fine being cozy at medium range, Celeste's gun (and ult) velocity makes it impossible to avoid the instant noninteractive hitboxes, like Krill's fart blast. She doesn't exist in a vacuum, there's the surrounding game and its questionable decisions imported from DOTA 2.>bonus spirit damage on a nukeYeah that is a little bullshit but it's not that bad. It's a light melee she gets for free that you can avoid simply by looking at her and not shooting at a distance of 1 meter.>Why does her gun need to auto aim?Because otherwise none of her shots would hit at that velocity. If you want to get rid of autoaim and give her a faster velocity, then you will quickly regret it as she can now be played at long range. People will start investing more in items that give passive bullet velocity and you would be seething even more now that Light Eater (her highest potential damage) is now the meta.
>>581239546I had a Celeste on my team with 2 kill participation in 40 minutes, it's insane how people can perform that badly on OP characters.
mo downplayers should kill themselves desu
>>581241135They wouldn't last five minutes in the tunnels
>>581240659If they made Knockdown just instantly force you to the ground and removed the stun portion, I imagine it would actually be good at anti-mobility stuff, but then it wouldn't be good against Seven or Dynamo, which is a fine price to pay for cucking mobility fags.Also no, her gun doesn't need auto aim, it should have slightly higher velocity but force her to play way closer range, as it stands Celeste just stays in the sweet spot for her gun with her retarded mobility and can out-heal any amount of damage dealt to her unless you have 3+ people shooting her directly in the head while Mo combos her. Celeste shouldn't have so many training wheels, it is what makes her OP when played by anyone that isn't retarded, you literally can NOT fail with this character if you have any idea what you are doing.I do agree that Deadlock's entire roster, or at least the third of it that are viable to play, have absurdly overloaded kits that do literally everything with no real weaknesses, and any time an actual weakness is found (such as the time Goober stunlocked a faggot Wraith player to death in a hallway with the goo ball ult) it gets nerfed or removed so that the carry playing fags don't have to have anyone threaten them. Killing Wraith while her teleport is off cooldown is simply not allowed.
>Play warden>I rape and they seethe
>>581241356I don't think knockdown is that bad. Early game it can be a good CC utility. Late game it's a cheap way to proc counterspell, dispel, or indom from a distance.
>>581241581It's not a good item at all because it is HARD countered by two of the most broken items in the game atm (counterspell and dispel magic) which are also far better purchases because they give you a shitload of HP and a bunch of free stats.It doesn't stop obnoxious mobility on characters like Celeste or Mina or Lash or Calico, it only is useful for maybe like 5 minutes in the middle of a game before dynamo and seven and lash buy unstoppable. Too many characters have ways to just turn off debuffs or entirely ignore them via disjoints.
They need to do something about Celeste's ult.
>>581241914You should be able to melee it back at her to avoid a bounce of damage
>Celeste already exists so we'll probably never get a real clown characterShame.
>>581242094>Celeste casts ult>Deadlock becomes a volleyball simulatorI'd play that
>aim straight up to try and get away from someone as silver to do mauling leap in the air>it hits a random creep on the ground and i dont go anywheresilver continues to be a humiliation character
>>581242498Jump first.
>>581241356>If they made Knockdown just instantly force you to the ground and removed the stun portionI'm telling you, best anti movement item from my experience is Phantom Strike. Although you do need to be at equal footing to capitalize on it since you're aggressively chasing an exchange. I'm biased, I love that item.> it should have slightly higher velocity but force her to play way closer rangeIt would greatly increase her engagement range, meaning they'd have to nerf movement, her core identity. If you'd nerf the shields and training wheels to compensate, every engagement with her is a complete gamble as you can't realistically track every ability cooldown (unless you have the "QOL" mods). This is the problem with balancing overloaded kits, it hovers between D- tier and S tier with a single numerical change as we've already seen.>absurdly overloaded kits that do literally everything with no real weaknessesThe funny thing is people used to cope "just end the game early" when it came to obviously broken kits, but the moment the tierlist changed, Eternus players are now arguing you can't end the game early. At least they're finally telling the truth, even if it was the most obvious agenda. "If I keep winning then there are no problems">>581241581Eh, early game it's good but it sets you back so far you must be swimming in souls (or playing support) to justify it. Late game, even if not for the T4's, people will stack debuff remover, counter spell, or simply parkour into cover. If they're reliant on ult, they'll get unstop so it does nothing.
>>581242094What about this?>melee to pass it to someone else randomly and avoid the damage>this stacks the damage>every successful melee makes the ball bounce faster>getting hit by the ball resets the stacked damageThree things can happen: Your team passes the skill check and nothing happens, one guy gets nuked, or the team just sucks big fucking dick and shares the damage.
slowing hex should kill celste
>>581242259Maybe we could have a mime character
>>581242936cool another "le wacky high skill" character for whites to throw my game on like sinclair
>>581242936That'd be fucking awesome
>>581242931this but with any character that has a movement abilityknockdown should permanantly quadruple dynamo (and specifically dynamo's) gravity scale so he can't rotate to team fightsim coming for yoshis job
>>581242936>>581243215The melee animation should definitely involve a baguette
>Wraith player mad because they lost>Almost won because Silver is a pathetic character that is entirely irrelevant>Still lost because I jobbed and bought utility and baited their dives
>>581243215>>581243453>>581242936mimes can't talk, so they wouldn't be able to use the ping system
>>581242936>Turn a corner while running>Slam into an invisible wall like it's Looney Tunes and die
>character with massive health pool chases you half way across the map with great damage and a silencethis game gets more and more retarded dude im so serious a couple months and they'll release a character with an auto aim kill anywhere on the map instantly orbital laser character that can also teleport back to base instantly
>>581243657Please add Zeus's ult to Deadlock
>>581243657>they'll release a character with an auto aim kill anywhere on the map instantly orbital lasermarvel rivals mentioned???
>>581243657sun strike?
>>581243540how did i not think of thatI'm retarded
>>581243657yeah Mo and Krill is ridiculous
feeling so fricking greenpilled today...
>>581240202arguably the roster being small makes draft more important, not lessif there were only 12 heroes with no bans, draft would be critical to get an effective comp while preventing the enemy from doing the same. i mean, it would be essentially solved and end in a wash 100% of the time but you get the gistwith 38 heroes, there's something like ~2 million possible team compositions. and there's a comically large number of possible drafts. a lot of them dogshit, but still. getting the key heroes for your composition, preventing the enemy from getting key heroes for their composition, and utilizing bans to shape what's possible makes and breaks games. leaving it all to fate is convenient but uh, obviously suboptimal when team composition alone can decide a match. if their team rolls all strong heroes with high synergy, and yours rolls mid ones, there's no swap that's going to save you from the next 30 minutes of ass slammagei should say though this is a bit of devil's advocacy. i don't really care about getting draft but it seems inevitable and a completely logical next step, whenever they decide it's viable to implement
>>581244945Breaking Benjamin reference? I thought only zoomers play Deadlock
>>581245124this is a certified unc game
>>581245124ye i am a zoomer anon old music isn't mandated by government id for only old people to listen to
>>581236676Why the hell is it, that you can have massive resists against a player, they still melt your HP, but THEY have ZERO fucking resists but take no fucking damage. I do not fucking care how much HP they have, you NEED to have resists or It. Does. Not. Matter. Or at least it shouldn't, but I guess Valve missed that part when balancing.
>>581245187YOU ARE 28 YEARS OLD.
>>581245324>Why the hell is it, that you can have massive resists against a player, they still melt your HP, resists will do next to nothing against a wraith spamming cards on you its better to get something that gives you barrier resists are trap items
>>581245393I am 35 actually, thank you very much
>>581245324they probably have resist shred doe or a large soul difference over you
deadlock isn't for crusty old uncst. 29 year old youngster
>>581245187does unc mean trans
>>581245610>t
>>581245482ancient gamer...
i'm immensely bothered at how slow fire rate heroes/guns just plain suckyou would think slower fire rate = more damage per shot = hits like a truckbut every other hero/gun ramps harder off of passive scaling, Spellslinger, rapid fire Tesla and other on-hit bullshit, or just having better damage on their gun and abilitiesit's all just fire rate bullet vomit, where are the slow firing sluggers>>581243821>Zeus/Karthus/Mephisto ultRefresher stonks through the roof>>581245324greens are lowkey griefing because building damage to kill enemies faster is damage mitigationresists are great and all in moderation but being a fat blob of HP alone doesn't help unless you're filling a very specific niche
>>581245812uh i dont think u can post ppl under 18 on here.....
>>581245503Oh goody, I love when my ultimate which used to instantly explode him and everyone else, now does literally nothing because he basically payed to win.
>>581245124Hate it to break it to you but zoomers love nu metal soc you can't even be the old guy with antiquated tastes
>>581243540there are like 5 different characters in dota that also literally can't talk. to this day i don't know which one of io's sounds correspond to whichjust have him do cartoon sounds instead
I really don't understand why the devs have such an obsession with giving tanky characters massively high movespeeds every multiplayer game EVER has realiased "tank okay slow" even valve themselves Heavy doesn't go scout speed without losing speed while firing his minigun so WHY do they keep giving tanky characters 3 stamina + high move speeds?!
>>581245324because you bought a bunch of resists instead of damage so you deal no damageand they bought a bunch of damage instead of resists so they can kill you through your resists because you are not a threat to them
Whats the rapist mo build? Started playing him
>>581246525their initiation tools cannot initiate if they're slow
>>581246906QSR, Warp Stone, Sup. Duration and CD, whatever you want that makes you an unkillable pain in the ass to their team
>>581236676>reduce the ammount of souls troopers give>reduce the number of neutral camps and sinners>remove the urn>remove the eggunsecured souls slowly deplete>merc mag now only gives a boost of magic bullet damage and refills your ammo, it is also an active item with a 40 second cd that can not be reducedthere, fixed the main issue, of the week, that you can hoard too much money
What does viscous taste like?
how fun your character is to play against
>>581247430he looks like he tastes like saltwater
>>581247462I play characters in every tier except cringe
>>581247462how is drifter fun to fight against when he does a billion damage for free
>>581242883>>581242094How about they just remove Celeste from the game since almost every single change made to powercreep characters to keep up with her has made the game worse?
>>581248295do you really think they're just going to add a bunch of new heroes with no new movement tools? or counter movement tools?
>>581248295Valve can't even make Pocket a man, they're not going to cause suicides like that
>>581243657Yeah Celeste is broken.>>581243821>>581245878They would NEVER add an ability that can kill faggots who escape on 1 hp using movement bullshit.
Why isn't Bebop hook a on a long 30sec cooldown? It's such an insanely impactful ability to have that you can miss but still get a reset by abusing veil walker to use his nigger uppercut on somebody. What the fuck is the balance in this game.
>Counterspell celeste ult>the singular projectile>it still goes off anywaysgenuinelyunironicallywhy does this ult get to do this?why does it just get to break the rules the grand majority of ults in this game don't?why does this character not have to follow any of the rules other characters do?having unique broken movement, abilities that go through the entire fucking map (3+ free amps from top of blue to mid btw)low CD shield that PUNISHES you for breaking itthis character isn't fucking playing deadlock
>GIVE ME THE FARM, I HAVE A GAME TO LOSEwhich hero?
>>581248384They haven't added a single thing to the game that actually counters movement bugs, because the movement bugs do not involve interacting with the actual game mechanics, they're bugs. As long as you can do retarded shit like corner/edgeboost with 0 stamina, the game will suck.
>>581247462>five tiers for different flavors of 'i hate this'>one tier full of the most impotent or retard bait heroesi mean
>>581248634how about you do something productive, like spam the private forums about movement bugs instead of whining about it here?
>>581248615Because the devs and streamers are transexuals and self-insert as Celeste so she needs to be the most overpowered character in the game or else they will kill themselves. The game died with the last 12 characters added since they all made it worse.
>>581248615you now remember that it used to get a partial cd refund if you fucking missed itno other ult in the game ever got that btw haha it's almost as if the tranny dev oc memes aren't memes after all
>>581248796>Implying they listen to feedback on the forums and not the feedback they get from streamers, trannies, and e-celeb trannies
>>581248960go spam eskay's discord then
>>581248748there is a difference between some fat ugly pedophile abusing warden for wins without putting in any effort than a loser locking in Calico to one shot people for fun.
So uh is the book corrupting Abrams
>>581249076Kids really have made pedo a meaningless term these days.
>NOOO I BOUGHT LINKEN SPHERE AGAINST LICH, DONT ULT ME AAAAAAIIEEEEEE AHGHUGHGHGUHGHlmaoooooooooo cant wait to see what other heroes people will cry about next.
>>581249339>retarded tourist is lostKWAB
>>581249339does lich ult peirce bkb?
>>581248862Yeah the blatant dev favoritism for certain characters like Celeste and Wraith and Shiv is just absurd.
>>581249469>i'm crying about celeste, specifically an interaction that's been studied from another game and brought in hand in hand.
>>581249604see >>581249469
>>581249514I think it used to. BKB is such a mistake of an item though, genuinely ruined Dota 2 by making it far too centralizing and powerful, resulting in all these niche cases where SOME ults and other things pierce BKB but not all things do.>>581249604Lich ult is nowhere near comparable to Celeste ult, Lich's ult fucks off if there is nobody left to bounce to, Celeste's ult lingers for several seconds, and moves way faster, and it follows you past visual range, and it has a much shorter cooldown. Lich also isn't hyper-mobile, and is not one of the tankiest characters in the game. He dies if you get on top of him. Celeste throws her ult point blank at you if you jump her and then the ult bounces between you and her until you die.
>>581249698i accept your concussion.
>>581246638Hey buddy, you just blow in from stupid town? I had the damage to kill him before and did. Now, suddenly, my ult, which still does massive damage to everyone, deals zero to himTry again.
>GUYS GUYS, THIS CHARACTER IS LIKE OTHER CHARACTER FROM OTHER GAME!!!!>AREN'T I LE HECKING OG VALVEBRO!!!Dotafags are the cringiest fuckers ITT.they make playing dota their entire personality.
If you compare Lich ult to Celeste ball you are either bad at Dota or didn't play enough Deadlock.
>>581249881>now my ult does no damagehe bought spirit resists, buy spirit sap bro. worst case scenario you're dealing even more damage
>>581249895who developed deadlock? sorry you cant say the same about lol, rivals or ow. at least people can cling to hideo kojima maybe?
>>581249339uhhhhhh doesn't Linken's cancel Lich ult cast thoughunless they changed itwhat is this meant to convey>>581249219the only thing stronger than his fists is his willthe only thing stronger than his will is his let's see what this dick can do
>>581249881damn sounds like they're hacking like a motherfucker dude i don't know what to tell you
>>581250014>sorry you cant say the same about lol, rivals or ow. at least people can cling to hideo kojima maybe?what is this level of mental illness? the fuck are you even talking about schizo retard?
>>581249895lack of design lineage is why those games turn to shit. it's a revolving door of random designers with no central vision
time to play some gun rem
>>581250032only way to literally remove a lich ult coming at you is to disjoint which deadlock only has a very minimal amount and hero specific (mina dynamo that i can think top of my head). nothing stops it from latching on to you and bouncing.
>>581250004Damn, you really are stupid, still had zero resists by the way.
>>581250203Mina, Dynamo, Wraith, Calico, anyone with E-shift, Doorman can disjoint things with the doors sort of.
>>581250203>>581250420pocket case
>>581248616Haze. Can't believe there are still farmslop Haze players.
>>581250667Yeah and the cloak disjoints too, if you teleport to it after something targeted is aimed at you, right?
>>581250203Victor reincarnation
March 6th should have never happenedGood bonuses dispel should have never been removed from capacitor and moved onto curseDispel should work on pocket affliction, I do not care. fuck that character.
people would rather go back in time to stop yoshi than hitler....
>play as billy>push lanes and make sure to take walkers while my team dies in senseless teamfights after i fed a drifter in laning phase>hold down the fort multiple by dragging the entire enemy team into shrine curses with my ult before scurrying away>had to do this TWICE while our soul count was 330k vs 390k >buy curse>lock in after my team respawns and wipe the enemies (make sure to curse the drifter) >their respawn timer is 2 minutes while our minions completely pushed all of their lanes to their base >win just off thatgyattdamn does it feel good to flip a game like that holy guacamole
>TF2 died for this dogshit trainwreck
Friendslop coop games are such an all-consuming trend in the gaming industry right now I honestly think it's a savvy move to make a PvE mode.If it's well made that is something none of Deadlock's competition has to offer.
>>581251194TF2 was dead before Deadlock ever started development
>>581251336>Does nothing in your path
>>581251018no you don't get it, Pocket needs to have some of the best mobility in the game, two disjoints, and a really good gun, on top of the only ult in the entire game that completely shuts down healing unless you waste 6.4k and a slot on a mediocre item
>>581248615Divine barrier needs to remove Celeste ult NOW
>>581250217so he just magically showed up to a teamfight after 2 minutes and you dealt no damage? easier to assume you're bad
>complains about movement bugs>is actually complaining about movement mechanicsI like high risk reward use of mechanics like timing a falling cornerboost, it's like Halo 2 superjump lineup autism. Meanwhile it's becoming a requirement to slide jump macro your dashes in comp because of how much farther it travels while giving you better control. This is the kind of obscenely tedious unintended use of mechanics that should get removed. I'm personally against bhop in any game that's not quake but I doubt valve will remove it. Air strafe is a cool mechanic but not gaining momentum from it and especially not while grounded. It's worth mentioning Apex Legends, which Deadlock has copied + improved movement from, removed bhop and only a handful of bitches cared because strafing is that strong on its own. Anyways you shouldn't complain about reasonable skilled inputs unless they're using a hack to do it for them. There's a fair argument to be had for removing/limiting instant mantle cornerboost since most players will never be able to do it and the input is quite gay.
>>581251460it's actually incredibly retarded how much this does for 1600>lol m1gger seetheyeah, yeah, sorry, haha...
>>581251278except friendslops are not coop games like drg, theyre just hangouts
>>581251896Edgeboosting and corner boosting are not movement mechanics, they are bugs that let you ignore what is supposed to balance movement (stamina) by making it limited. Really, if they remove all the bugs in the game that will help a lot with bringing movement in line, but they won't do that since the trannies who spent hundreds of hours practicing bug abuse will kill themselves, and there goes half of the Deadlock dev team then.
>>581251336Very underrated item on Mina.
>>581251591>some of the best mobility in the game>a single slow predictable teleport
>>581251932>unironic m1 main>on /dlg/You have to go back.
>>581251932It's an item that feels like it does nothing even when it's helpingCould probably use tweaks
>>581252085the devs have literally adjusted their boost force and added unique sound effects
I am a spirit main. I buy mercmag and overflow every game.
>>581252209*gets hit with your slowing hex**throws out cape (not a movement ability btw)**becomes invincible (accidently dodges curse)**waits out the entire duration of slowing hex with room to spare**teleports half a map away before you can interact with him*
I was key player but lost, oh well guess I deserve to lose 300 points just as much as the guy who fed all game. After all, the pros at /dlg/ told me K/D doesn't matter at all.
>>581252209It doesn't matter if Cloak is predictable if you literally cannot counter it in any way at all because he can just become invincible until the cloak is halfway across the map, then teleport to it.>>581252396Yes, because the devs are incompetent retards who can't make a good change to this game to save their lives, and only listen to streamers/trannies/ecelebs on how to balance the game.
>>581252572*Cape gets caught on a box or sign post splinter**die*
balance patch during nightshit doko
>>581249546>shivhow so?
>>581252031Any coop game can become a friendslop hangout if there's a low enough difficulty to select. ARC Raiders, Helldivers and DRG included.
>>581251336this on Ivy + tesla bullets + mystic slowthis strat will get me out of seeker, I believe it
>>581251336i buy this late game on victor very good against miggers
>>581253353Don't forget Healbane
>>581248862>no other ult in the game ever got that btwIt's not exactly the same but still easily comparable to the period where Warden got a massive CD discount on Ult if he was CC interrupted during the channel. Which he no longer has, btw, so it's just more evidence that she shouldn't have it.
>>581253493You're right, taking notes rn.
>>581247462>mo that lowsure bud
Enemy walkers should take less damage if there are more than 3 people around it + the walkers should take less damage if there are 2 or less people defending them to nerf deathballing and buff splitpushing by stalling deathballs push timers.obviously, one isn't active without the other.
Christ, Warden is literally mister stat checkAll the damage of other heroes' abilities, with twice the random stats attached to them, and higher boon scaling
>>581236676Praying they make a cute black female character for me to draw and goon to.
>>581251835He took the full brunt of a McGinnis ult, maxed out
>>581253690The counter to this is literally grouping under your walkerIt literally does exactly what you're saying if your team is under itYour team ALSO gets resists while under it
>>581253837Calico remodel will be hot inshallah
>>581247430sea weedlots of umami
>>581253597Just spamming 50 debuffs honestly works really well if you're not on a damage role and your team is sapient
every time you guys talk about dota 2 it makes me want to play it to compare to DL but then I get fomo cause its a 13 year old game with 2.5 trillion mechanics in it
>>581247462>Lash fun to play against>Currently top 3 in the gameAre you stupid?
>>581253919This shit does NOT matter when your team is just going to deathball chase them anyway
>>581253919>The counter to this is literally grouping under your walkerif your team doesn't have AOE slop spam you lose the death ball, hence why splitpushing needs to be even remotely viable.
>>581248460>They would NEVER add an ability that can kill faggots who escape on 1 hp using movement bullshit.Wraith ult which literally autotargets so you can't miss it.
>>581254115Least literate poster award
>>581248615>use celeste ult>it disappears, like just fucking vanishes after the first tick, doesn't even orbit the targetWell you would be happy to know it also bugs out for who knows what reason.
>>581254375Are you daft?
>>581248862am i misremembering or doesn't paige's ult get a partial refund if you hit no one with it?
>>581254830see >>581254375
>>581253837>Calico>Haze>Wraith>All attackersWhere's the black girl support?
>>581254941rem
What are the TOP macro mistakes Acolyte - Mystic players make that keeps them from performing better?
>>581253217He's been overpowered since release and the devs refuse to remove the two things that make him broken (Bloodletting and the alt-fire movement bullshit) because they have no clue what they are doing.
>>581255212not doing boxes
>>581255212Playing like a fucking pussy. Clear camps, look for a pick, do boxes, just do something and play the game instead of waiting for them to get a 100k soul lead.
>>581254236That's different since Wraith is a pet character of some dev which is why she got gigabuffed and will always be OP now. And she's a nigger, you can't nerf niggers in Deadlock.
>>581255294>bloodlettingsure>altfire movementwhy are you so antifun?
>>581255212plugin mouse/monitor
I tried to be nice
>>581255212Bad aim.
>>581256001DAH BAXTA SOCIETY SAVED MAH LIFE....
>>581249895>SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO A GAME DEFINED BY ITS BULLSHIT MECHANICS SHARES CONCEPTS WITH THE GAME IS A SUCCESSOR TO?Yes, retard.
shiv running fucking goose egg in lane and we can't do anything to himfuck this bullshit infinite sustain character
>>581252396which doesn't actually address the issue. the issue is that they're free, stamina wise. if we're going to keep such strong mechanics stamina free we might as well just remove stamina and commit to full apex legends type gameplay
>>581256209Where's your egg?
>>581255212not listening to me
>>581256209WELCOME TO MY WORLD BOYS AND GIRLS
>>581255390I'll feed I'll feed if I go looking for a fight bro
>>581255453Celeste was D tier for most of her life up until the ult buff a few months ago.There are so many other characters that consistently keep their place in the meta, but the difference is they're easy to play so no one complains. But if someone like Viscous dares climb to 51% winrate, all the streamers start crying.I am a noticer. No one says a word when Vyper is also dominating lobbies with a more consistent winrate across ranks.
>>581256634so feed until you learn how to be aggressive without feeding. you wont climb consistently if you dont improve
>>581239807Futa energy
PATCH
>>581256721>Celeste was D tier for most of her life up until the ult buff a few months ago.
>>581256634feeding is a spook invented by low mmr
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/698776157349216434
>dropping a patch on the evening the only pro tournamentlmao why would yoshi do this
>>581257401PARRY BWOS WE LOST
>>581257508He's based.
>>581257401>- Parrying while doing a regular dash will now cancel the dash (and momentum) and parry on the spot
it's UP
>>581257401>silver buffsNot enough
>>581257582based change
>>581257401brb building Kevlar every game
> Slows now also affect air drag by 35% of the slow value (convar citadel_enable_slows_affect_air_dragto toggle the slow drag behavior on and off)movement schizo won....
SILVER CHADS WE FUCKING WON!!!!!! NEVER GIVEUP!!!!!!
Bro!??!
- Silver: Health per boon increased from 28 to 31- Silver: Sprint speed increased from 1.5 to 2.5- Silver: Dashes and light melee's no longer pause your gun's cycle time- Silver: Boot Kick can only target heroes and objectives now- Silver: Entangling Bola can only target heroes now- Silver: Weighted Bola now increases gravity during the debuff duration, and interrupts flying abilities (same rules as Phantom Strike)SILVER BROS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK TO PLAYABLE TIERnot getting cucked by minions is such a nice change, it made the graves matchup unplayable lol
>>581257401ctrl+f victor>no results>close pagehehe time to rape
>>581257401IT'S NOT ENOUGH YOSHI
>>581257830Yeah, this won't last.
>>581257234That was statistically the case across all ranks, sub 50% winrate up until the ult buff. If she was dominating your lobbies then you then you just bad tbqhfam
>win a game>game notices this and tries its DAMNDEST to send me into losers queue>mo in midlane is at 10k and 8 kills before 10m>pocket swaps into my lane with fucking vindicta like his gun is gonna do anything to her>vindicta sees this and instabuys flight>pocket dies once and goes full tilt, game is looking like a guaranteed loss as yoshi intended>however>HOWEVER>drifter dies like twice in left lane and ragequits>game boots us, my loss is preventedEAT SHIT YOSHI YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD STOP ME
>>581257401>wraith gets yet ANOTHER slap on the wrist nerfmy fucking word dude...
>no mcginnis anythingwhat the fuck are they doing
>sprint to shadowweavelmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>581257401why the FUCK did they buff lady geists damage when she already nuked people what the fuck
>>581257869It's qol changes, not real buffsUntil the ult bonus hp becomes base hp she's still made of paper also give back the heal on kill in ult and un nerf her gun
>>581257401>comeback mechanics nerfed>overflow and merc mag dead>egg value now adds to total team networth (comeback stalling is dead)>trophy nerfed>veil walker dead>plated armor now blocks merc mag/vin flight/wraith 3 and tesla/cap>celeste nerfed in all abilities>haze fixation buff>gun lash dead, spirit lash buff>venator ult now works with ricochet and splitshot>viscous nerfs>warden full nerfs>wraith full nerfswell?
>2 more health per level on GravesNot a nerf, I'll take it
>>581257401>Bebop still has fucking hook recastKILL THIS NIGGA ALREADY
EGG RUGPULLED
>>581257869>Silver: Weighted Bola now increases gravity during the debuff duration, and interrupts flying abilities (same rules as Phantom Strike)watch this get nerfed asap as SOON as wraith lash infernus/carry players start bitching this will get nerfed
>>581257401>Venator: Ira Domini now works with Ricochet, all the shots will bounce>Venator: Ira Domini can now split shot (releases 1 extra bolt on each side, 3 total)By the grace of GOD, I shall be running funny split shot builds now.
You can just Bola fliers to the ground now lol
>>581258134>>overflow and merc mag deadNow what am I supposed to do? I was about to rank up.
>>581258113>sprint speed 2.5>health scaling buff>bola even stronger movement lockdownnah those are objective buffs
>>581257401>Venator: Ira Domini now works with Ricochet, all the shots will bounce>Venator: Ira Domini can now split shot (releases 1 extra bolt on each side, 3 total)wtf lmao
>>581258113Lifestrike got buffed as well so she's way better nowNot OP or even meta, but not a troll pick
>>581257401They do realize that they have the power to nerf abilities right? Cause wtf is this?
>TCD Kevlar for 160s on Singularity + Indom reduction I'M DOING IT
>>581258429IT'S TIME
>>581258429Holy shitVenatorgods...
patch is good now we just need some content to go with it
>>581258391Good, buff it even more so every movement tranny cannot play the game.I need every lash main to add themselves to the LGBT suicide stats
>>581257401>- Haze: Fixation headshot stack count increased from +2 to +3Excuse me
SHADOW WEAVE CHADS ARISE
>>581257401it's not enough, i want celeste's kneecaps on my desk
>>581257401>- Silver: Weighted Bola now increases gravity during the debuff duration, and interrupts flying abilities (same rules as Phantom Strike)Vindicta cucks, your response?
>Lash: BEBOP SAVE MEE AAAAAAAAAAA
>>581258896Parry CS everytime you hear the bola sound
>>581256721People actually complained a lot about Vyper going into the enemy base and getting thousands of souls by killing all the creeps in their base before they leave it.Celeste was never D tier. You are full of shit.>>581255904The altfire movement is cringe and another reason why Deadlock's movement is so bad, you can't selectively hand out special movement mechanics to characters when movement is so OP already, especially not on a character like Shiv who has zero weaknesses.
venator is going to be so fucking annoying, i need you people to understand the ridiculousness ricochet ira domini is going to cause
>haze buffsnot again man
>>581259008https://deadlock.wiki/images/8/88/Werewolf_use_echo_shard_02.mp3
>plated was bugged against Mercurial Magnum, Vindicta's Flight, Wraith's Full Auto, and Tesla Bullets/Capacitorno fucking wonder you still get melted by these niggers
Okay now if I see any eggs I know you fucks are griefing
>>581257401- Golden Goose Egg: Damage Penalty increased from -10% to -15%- Golden Goose Egg: Stored souls now count towards net worth (affects comeback reward calculations)- Golden Goose Egg: Souls per minute reduced from 90 to 80LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>581259057She needs it unironically
>>581259180>Add a retarded item as a crutch>Nerf the shit out of it to make it worthlessSeriously why would they even add egg to the game if it's just straight up useless now
>>581259146Do NOT tell silverfags that echo is good on her
>Celeste got another slap on the wristI swear to fucking god. As if we need any more confirmation that Celeste is some troon employee's self insert OC. Fucking hell.
>>581259287It's now back to being what it always was. An item for heroes like Paige or Rem, not for every carry in the game.
DEATH TO THE WICKED
>>581259381Air movement got some nerfs so hopefully that helps some
>>581259381Celeste and Wraith are two of the pet characters of some tranny nigger on the dev team.
So is merc mag overflow dead?
>still no changesno need to change whats already perfect
>silver now gets a free phantom strike on bolado not ever complain about this hero again, that is strong
>>581259057Haze unironically sucks but the buff atleast rewards aim (mostly) with the headshot buff.
Well good news ladsIf the minor balance patch dropped now then chances of the major one next week just show up astronomically
>buffing old broken characters broken abilities instead of actually nerfing the current broken characters
>>581259528Probably not enough, since the patch notes don't mention removing corner/edgeboosts which are the real problem since you can do them and it costs no stamina, but moves you further than doing a dash jump (which the game tells you to do, all the time)
>>581259667Next week makes sense since it opens the floor for hero votes.
are they genuinely retarded?
Anyone ingame to try how the dash/slow changes work?How does it feel? Like a huge difference (both as the one slowing and the player getting slowed)?
>>581257401don't care still playing warden
>>581259723>warden and celeste nerfs>killed gunslop with merc and overflow nerfsthis is good though
>>581259723>Celeste and Wraith basically untouched outside of literal 1% changes>Ivy also basically untouched>Viscous got a bunch of nerfs for random shit instead
>>581259840This is actually the funniest shit ever
>>581259595If the community starts bitching about dashfernus in a couple of days then yes.
CONTENT UPDATE WHENI AM TIRED OF WAITING
>Decay now lasts 15+ seconds with duration Heheh
>>581259840It's a beta they're just trying shitIt's gonna be funny as fuck tho and likely reverted, atleast partially
WHAT THE FUCK DO I BUILD NOW THAT MERC OVERFLOW IS DEAD
>>581259840classic icefrog with a cream of hopoo
>>581259840i think it's good to try off the wall stuff like this. we're supposed to be in a playtest remember?
>>581259840It's funnyHis winrate sucks, might as well have a goof before the bigger patch.
>>581259874>vyper barely touched>ivy even less so>wraith got a slap on the wrist and given a piece of candy (gun steroid buff lmao)>no dynamo changes>>this is good though
>>581260048Unironically next week
>Silver changes>come across as a buff>but you can't hit creeps anymore which means you can bola a creep to spread it to a heroStealth Silver nerf Yoshi cannot help himself.
>>581260107Back to debuff/ricochet spam.
>>581258737>drifter didn't get a single nerfwhy
>parry stops dash momentumIS THIS GOOD OR BAD
Guess they will nerf movement after all
>>581259840He unironically deserves it, there's not much reason to pick Venator at the moment.
Its a good thing I never bothered getting used to air dash parrying
>>581260339which means you can't*
>>581257401And so Wraith still gets a slap on the wrist as if -0.25 heal scaling is going to stop her cards from nuking you
This item should just be removed, it won't ever be remotely useful without being completely overpowered
>>581260473probably good, dash parrying was so strong if you practiced it a bit
bola changes will be moved to t3, abuse while you can
>>581260591It was always supposed to be just a support cuck item
>- Plated Armor: Fixed on-hit damage prevention not blocking the following on-hit spirit damage effects: Mercurial Magnum, Vindicta's Flight, Wraith's Full Auto, and Tesla Bullets/CapacitorWraith literally got GUTTED you fucks>>581260473May open up some interesting new movement but it does also make parry less safe.
>patch is 90% nerfs>yam gets buffedyamabros we can't stop winning
>>581260473It's a good change since parrying is OP compared to melees and entirely risk-free because of how stupid movement is.
>>581259045>Celeste was never D tier. You are full of shit.She had a 47% winrate 3 months ago, from Initiate to Eternus, only peaking in Oracle (still sub 50% winrate).If she was dominating your lobbies at the time, you were just bad.
Ricochet is core on venator nowGo try it in the sandbox with 6 bots
THE GAME IS FIXED!S+++++++ILVER IS BACK BABY!!!!!
>>581260708There are no pure supports in deadlock if your teams "support" suddenly does -15% damage you're at a huge disadvantage especially when you're expected to hold on to the egg for 30 minutes
>>581260708Well know it cucks your team out of comeback souls while whoever holds it is more of a cosmetic.I love balance patches based on streamer opinions! They're so intelligent!
>>581257401WHY CAN'T THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING NERF CELESTE
>>581260929WILL SHE BE FIRST PICK AGAINMY WOLF GIRL FAILURE IS NO LONGER HOMELESS
important note: venator bolts do not ricochet if they kill the target>>581260473goodno more have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too shitparry is now full commitment, there is no IAD/dash+parry shenanigans to simultaneously retreat safely if you don't quick melee while still being able to skullfuck you if you did happen to quick meleeit also means you can melee creeps without as much risk which is cool
>>581260964You're expected to hold the egg until first rift
Is she finally worth touching?
I havent played deadlock in like two weeks.Seems like this is a good place to start on as warm up for the big patch.Thank god I didnt suffer thrpugh merc mag+overflow meta.
>>581260815you fail to realize how much people who play these games are:A. dogshitB. sheep to what other people saywinrate doesnt matter. mo and krill got a burrow change and the character skyrocketed upwards because the rest of his kit was broken the whole time but nobody knew because nobody played him. McGinnis got a slight ult nerf and then dropped to F tier but was stil the same character. what happened? with no changes she skyrocketed up to 60% winrate because people realized, yes she is still good.
>venator pick in night shiftif he doesnt buy ricochet split shot he's a pussy
>>581257401>Viscous: Goo Ball T3 now also increases spirit scaling by 0.2ITS ALL IVE EVER WANTED THANK YOU YOSHI
>>581260708that works in dota, because you're not supposed to steal your carry's farm, but since souls are shared, there aren't many reasons to get it.Supports lose relevance the longer the game goes on for, thus nerfing their damage in early game is just nonsense.
>>581261123Not really, she was F tier and now she's D-
>dynamo untouchedThis 0 skill faggot runs games in Oracle low. Dude just gets unstop and warp stone and your team just can't do anything
>>581261123She's a good counter to movement fags right now, so like C+ tierNot a troll pick at the very least
>ricochet makes the bolts ricochet>split shot makes your crossbow fire 3 shots, but the extra shots won't proc ricochetI guess. It would be OP if the extra shots also procced ricochet. Split Shot is still a meme on Venator, but Ricochet is now good giga-lategame even if you're not running any on-hit.
why did everyone just stop giving a shit about Yamato 2?
>>581261280Also diviners kevlar buff
Nobody is going to start buying toxic again because it does 0.1% more damage lategame, Yoshi
SILVER BROS?!CODE RED CODE RED
my rat wife
AWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581261624more pressing issues, now we're back to regularly scheduled bitching
>>581261701>Silver and GT picked on a single teamDear god they're gonna either carry or feed their asses off
>silver PICKEDAIEEEEEEEE FELLOW SILVER DOWNPLAYERS WHAT DO WE NEED TO HAPPEN????
>>581261636Kevlar buff is a sleeper powerhouse It's 15-20s off many game changing ults
>gt picked Leviathan is done for.
>buy plated>all this on hit shit/ gun buffs were melting me>die>"damn guess i just got unlucky">turns out it was bugged the whole time and didnt block it
haze and silver is gonna carry
>diviners kevlar buffTime for ult spam graves where you get every duration extending item.
>doorman no longer picked or bannedI thought he was SSSSSSSSSSS+++++++++++++ tier?
>"schmoovement" faggotry has to respect slows now, at least a little bitWarden's gun potential got hit hard but spirit builds are looking spicy. Spastic homos might not be able to escape Last Stand combined Mystic Slow and flask spam. Not to mention the cuck cage.I am tempted to start spamming beam Kelvin and other giga slow fags and make people seethe.
dns really won't let this tranny shit go huh I turn the stream off as soon as I see it now
>>581261987Calling it bugged is just icefrog cope lmaoHe did this wirh dota as well when they nerfed or buffed "unintended" mechanics
>>581262174>Muh doorsYou pick doorman you gotta waste a ban on graves so he's not worth it. But still Top 1 apparently though cause muh doors.
It's time to start building Kevlar
>>581257401>no meaningful nerfs to celeste or warden or no&skill >haze buffsthese niggas i swear...
>Lifestrike finally viableAt last...
>>581262174doorman has been hit enough. i think the door needing to stay open and the cart/walker changes were enough for him to not be bannable anymore. still extremely strong though
>>581262386Brick post
>Infernus banThe fuck?
Is Veil Walker dead now, chat? Is it safe to buy Fortitude now?
>>581262526Yes and yesStart building Shadow Weave
>>581259601>change the one thing that feels okay in her kiti get it's a buff but i would've rather they made her gun not feel like absolute dogshit or adressed the dog being worse than her normal form at all
where the fuck are the nerfs for mo and krillthis is fucking bullshitretardedly op character
>>581262178There's a numerical bug where slowing hex now buffs Celeste's bunny hopping speed
>- Golden Goose Egg: Damage Penalty increased from -10% to -15%>- Golden Goose Egg: Stored souls now count towards net worth (affects comeback reward calculations)>- Golden Goose Egg: Souls per minute reduced from 90 to 80so why would you ever buy this now
Did yoshi forget Venator ult can pierce
V*gas status?
>>581262526that shit was GUTTED gutted. its useless
>>581258705Easily the biggest buff in this patch and i'm not even trolling, Haze will build fixation disgustingly fast with headshots now
>>5812586313 out of 5 of those nerfs are to abilities retard
>>581262745SupportsAs intended
>>581262745To grief
>>581262686she's now more consistent overall, has stronger lockdown on an already good lockdown skillshot, and moves faster. they're buffs bro. she's also a strong candidate for shadow weave.
Finally finished my placement games after leisurly grinding some more characters to 15 wins. Kinda sad I'm a bronzie and not with my brickbros...
>>581262526No crucially the heal and invis weren't touched. That aspect is strong enough e6 were rushing to buy it. The rest is a bonus.
>>581262745It's an IQ test.
>paradox doing thousands of damage on 1 ability press>nerf the minimum damage insteadi mean, i guess?
They should just remove egg from the game.
>>581259840This is a peak icefrog patch note
>>581259840So, sharpshooter referesher Venator lives?
>>581259287I will still probably get it in match ups I have no chance of winning and just play like a huge bitch. Bricklo btw.
>>581262818Nerfs that actually fucking matter. Like making flask not apply every single debuff in the game, fuck your mother, and do warden's taxes on a 6 second cooldown. Or him moving at the speed of sound with shield. Or binding ward fucking silencing you while having the range of a walker. Not muh spirit scaling and debuff resist getting hit a tad bit.
>>581260473It basically changes nothing since it only means people are going to go back to IAD parries instead of dash parries
>>581263139Get Kevlar too
>silver gt laneFUAAAAAAARK
>>581258134>gun lash>deadniggas were saying this last time he got his actual gun damage nerfed and everyone hopped off the gun lash train. Then a "pro" played him gun lash and everyone was back on it. His gun is still viable, and now his slam is going to fucking rape you even harder.
>shiv knife ricochet goneriparoni
>>581263183flask range and speed is nerfed, meaning they're way easier to dodge especially in laning. nerf on debuff resistance is also relevant.
>>581262749Venator doesn't have his gun when using the xbow so he technically lost DPS in group fights while using it compared to other m1ggers. This change is probably permanent to some degree.
>>581262745because you are playing rem or paige or a hero that can work with low income
>>581259840That's a good change though. Ira Domini was dogshit lategame. You're better off shooting your gun. If you buy Ricochet, his ult now does something lategame.
>>581260473you have to walljump parry now
>>581263443and what the fuck is the point of them with -15% damage?
>Egg officially dead
>>581263401The extra damage is probably better in general
>balance patch released that changes up a lot of items>item rework is supposedly in 2 weekslmao, it will be delayed again
>Egg has completely scrambledThings are looking sunny side up
>people saying this nerf is a slap on the wrist for celestePeople unironically want to remove all four of her abilities and turn her into the training dummy and present it as "valid criticism".
Uhm... Silverbros? I thought the buff saved the hero?
>>581263401that shit never fucking worked anyways
>- Paige: Fixed some collision issues with Rallying Charge...so when the fuck are they gonna fix her 1 and 3's hitboxes being completely scuffed? She's been in the game for over a year.
>>581263689content drop will likely have voting for 2 weeks, so item update is likely mid october
>>581263689Item update was cancelled bro, haven't you heard?
>>581263689The content update is in 1-2 weeks, not items, moron.
>>581263689item rework is going to be the secret shop retard
>they actually buffed silverNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I like the Focus Lens buff
>silver dying 4 times in 3 minuteshe just like me fr
Leave Mo & Krill to me.
>- Toxic Bullets: Spirit scaling increased from 0.005% to 0.006%insane
>>581264042God forbid she not feel like total fucking shit to play.
>>581264103The famous silver specialHardwin or hard feed. Zero inbetween
>>581264265SILVERTARDS DONT DESERVE THIS HERO
>>581263985>>581263917>>581263787>>581263756surely this next update will actually be good and have content (unlike every single update since March) lmao!
>1/8 silverMASAKA...IS THIS THE POWER...OF S+++ILVER!!!!!
>>581264562They literally said it's a content patch niggaProb RoR3 and some map changes. Maybe a few heroes
>>581264693>Prob RoR3 and some map changes. Maybe a few heroesAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA, and it will drop in 2 weeks right?
I love it when the enemy team has no carry and I've practically got both my own and the enemy jungle for myself.Also people have no map awareness, sniping walkers is too easy.
Is Lifestrike on the 'Brams back on the menu?Also they buffed SHITver hopefully you stop BITCHIN
>>581264819Can you read or do you need me to use an AI to read my post for you?
>arf
>>581238891No real good instances on wednesday nowadays, so pop in lovelock and play gaem
>Venatror singlehandedly wins rift with 2 abilities (gunshot and ult)Keep downplaying him tho
>>581264943chatgpt, translate this post into spanish, por favor
>>581265008Tell me exactly how prior to this patch Ira Domini singlehandedly won any rift?
>>581263716Silver is never gonna get picked again.
>>581265008thats definitely an interpretation of what happened>>581265158we all know you speak hindi or whatever, don't lie rajesh
>>581265321>haze, sinclair, gtthey have more problems with that draft
somehow, haze returned......
>>581264145A whole 0.2% more damage per second in the lategame...
Silver needs the heal on kill in ult, she literally does not function without it.Also the nerfs to her gun were completely unnecessary.
Start building Lightning Scroll Kevlar Ricochet Venator
Why don't they just make Silver a full tank instead of whatever the fuck she is now. This hero doesn't work
>>581262123so standard graves? her meta build was already wall+ult max and smart graves players would build kevlar occasionally
venator bros... how we feeling?
Okay this is after nerfed comeback mechanics btw
>gun meta still not fixedArtifact 2
>empty dreams throws AGAINhow does he keep getting away it
holy fuck haze downplayers???
>>581265734Probably still not a great pick but a lot funnier
>>581265667She should be an assassin/frontline hybrid, but she functions as neither after all the nerfs
These guys fed their assess off lane and midgame... AND SOMEHOW MANAGED TO GET AHEAD LOL((NERFED))) COMEBACK MECHANICS
>press the "the only way you could possibly lose this fight" button>lose the fightmelee system MUST stay as it isit is the greatest IQ threshold in gaming
>>581265990>Throw a fight and melee a 300 HP haze for no reason while you're full>How could this happen
>silver buffs>minor bullshit that changes nothingThe biggest buff is the reload and that's basically just QoL, she's still trash
Haze is busted again.
>>581265990how much of it was comeback mechanics vs how much of it was blue getting their shit together? i swear some people just want the game to force end the second laning phase is over and award the team with more souls the win on the spot
Silver???>>581265970It's clear they (valve) or the playerbase are not comfortable with her as that. Make her a tank instead that has an "on" and "off" period.>>581266007Melee continues to filter retards. It's a "win more" button. You should never press it if you're in a winning position
>>581265970>assassinher bootkick is a skirmisher engage/disengage move, there's nothing about her that is assassin like besides bola setting up slam fires
Lash's ult should disable movement abilities just like Rem's.
>ricochet now works with Venator ultCharacter was fine before wtf.
>>581265990>Catch half their team because they overextend for a pick>get midboss>somehow you're not supposed to be rewarded for thiskys srsly
>>581266496Wasn't he like 43% winrate
>>581265734Seethe generation will increase 1000% but wr will stay the same.
>>581266496its funny tho
>>581266525My main issue is that you can dominate early/mid just to lose ALL of your lead due to one stupid mistakeNot saying comeback shouldn't exist but it feels too extreme to me idk.
>>581264909Why do people keep going burst Drifter it seems like a total fucking meme.
silversisters we're SO back
>>581266741Don't overextend all the way up to their base guardians wtf. Control yourself nigga. This is how all mobas work if you lose three people just outside their base.
>>581265908She was always OP.
>>581266007>risk: death>reward: 65x damageMelee is so rarely worth it. It really is a "the only way you could possibly lose this fight" button
>>581266529I accept your concession.
>>581266441High single target burst and cc makes her an assassin in human form, I really don't understand how people struggle to realize this
>>581267023An assassin is supposed to kill peopleIf her slam fire was an execute or max health then sure, but it's current health which means it's worse the lower people are.
MY GIRL WON A GAME FEEDING HER ASS OFF!!!
>>581267023no. abrams has a high target burst damage, but he's not a true assassin even if phantom strike lets him act like a fat one. assassins need way higher burst/dps damage and ways to get the jump on people, which both calico and drifter have
whats an weighted bola?
>>581267152aaaaand they threwgj man
>>581267023>high single target burstlol lmao
>>581263241the change applies to IAD parries as well
>>581267132The current health damage is a literal red herring and has never mattered in the slightest, the 300% attack speed and increased damage is what actually matters and even if you don't kill them with the full combo it's enough to proc wolf form and you can finish them with bite.>>581267306Before getting shitcanned for 7 patches in a row.
>>581267296IT WAS HER FUCKING WINSHE WENT 2/11YOU CAN'T FUCKING DO THIS TO MESILVER IS A S+ HERO!!! SHOW IT YOU HANDLESS PRO FAGGOTS!!!
>Celeste got undeserved nerfs>Wraith got a fucking slap on the wristWHY
>>581267482Wraith nerfs are much bigger than you might think since they also made it so Plated Armor actually works vs her and Merc Mag
ANOTHER EMPTY DREAMS THROW
>That mina rape
>>581267482>Celeste>UndeservedGut this horse until she's only good for her ponut.
gun shiv is still meta even if merc/overflow got nerfed btw>>581263401I literally never used this except to sometimes bounce knives off lane creeps to hit someone behind cover and that was a coinflip if it even worked and didn't bounce to another creep instead
>do more damage if you just shoot a nigga>still try to do a heavy meleeHow do you cure this? Is it terminal?
>silver gt won
TOTAL. SILVER. VICTORYEASIEST CARRY OF HER LIFE
Actually nerf Celeste now
I've seen enough nerf Celeste again
Finally slows stop people from just wall bouncing away and flying like it's DBZ.How fucking long did it take them to realize vertical movement was aids? 2 years?
>>581236676I have that calico bikini except it’s the bra and panty set not a swimsuit
Silver literally did jackshit that game lol
i have a feeling the ricochet ira domini didn't work properly in the nightshift match
I've seen enough. Nerf Silver
>>581267660
>person at 0.000001% hp>TIME TO USE THE ONE ATTACK THAT CAN RESULT IN ME DYING INSTEAD OF THEY PRESS 1 KEY ON THEIR KEYBOARD>AUUUGH I DIED AUUUUUeven in high level play people are retarded
the celeste changes were all objective nerfs right?
>>581268589YesThey just weren't very big nerfs.
>>581268589objectively nerfed but they're all so worthlessly miniscule that she's not going to be reasonably changed because the problem is with her innate faggoty passives
what is it about drifter that causes people to tilt to no end? they die once in lane and it's basically a guaranteed loss if they're on your team
>>581268727what's a faggoty passive
>>581268957theyre russianhope that helps
>>581268989-25% Gravity Scale+44% Air Control+10% Air AccelerationFor free at zero cost innately.
haze aghs concept: if you get killed by haze in game the IDF sends her in real life to kill you
>silver is now a proper counter to flying cucksUhhh bros?
>>581269102hmmmm that's kinda cool tho
>overflow nerfs killed my capacitor+overflow graves buildOh well I knew that was coming, the 60% winrate was fun while it lasted
Is it time to buy Shadow Weave on Abams?
>>581269102I dunno why they gave Ivy -10% gravity either.It doesn't even actually help her it's just kind of there to make her slightly floatier.
wheres zerggys team?
>>581269350hero differentiation is cool doe
>>581267482both got nothing burgers for nerfs
>>581269350the same reason some heroes have a 1.5 sprint speed and others have 2.5 sprint speedheroes just have different inate stats
>>581269313Sure, it's probably a fine item now.I think Veil being dead is exaggerated but it's definitely not amazing anymore unless you're a pick displacement hero like Holliday.
>>581269035okay but what draws them to him
Silver should have big tits.Lady Geist should have bigger tits.The upcoming female frontliner should have even bigger tits.
>>581269726Really high highs and really low lows. Just like how they perform in eSports.
>>581269726same thing that draws them to shadow fiend
>>581269726russians love rapist core heroes
>Leviathan's game highlights are just a 'kill silver compilation'I'm cackling
Undo egg nerfs except for it being added to your net worth.
should I still be building merc mag overflow on spirit victor
>>581269814Silver looks good flat, Celeste should have yuge tits since it makes her more aesthetic.
>>581246525heavy deals the highest damage per second in the entire game, rapes aerial movement, all while having the highest HP in the game. that's why he a slow fat fuck.
>>581267482Celeste barely even got nerfed, she is never going to receive real nerfs because then 41% of the Deadlock playerbase would cease to exist.
>>581265734He is now a mid boss threat.
>>581269726He is slav-coded.
>>581269814>>581270004Exhibit A
>>581269814>>581270004>>581270351Exhibit B
>>581267660Where was he keeping his dick if it wasn't in his pants?
hold on bros chatgpt will tell me the real winners and losers of this patch
Ironically posting AI slop is still posting AI slop
>needs characters to have big tits to jack offunironically low test
>first pick bebop
>>581270575>his dickhe doesn't know whose dick it is
>>581252396just nerfing it proves that it's existence isn't solid or a fundamental part of the gameplay, which opens up the door to repeated nerfs or it's eventual removal like HMC.
Shit patch.I don't like it. Nothing really changed.
>Geist buffsIs she back?
>geist buffswhy?
>>581271090wym? haze is op again. that's what people like right?
>>581271551because mommy femdom
>>581257401will these holliday buffs make people realize that she's actually pretty good or will they have to keep slowly buffing her until it culminates into a FOTM frenzy over her and they nerf her into uselessness again only time will tell
>>581271551they nerfed her lifedrain last patch so they had to revert that but in a roundabout way that actually increases her damage too lol
>>581271785Holliday was fine or even good after the changes but crackshot is very obviously the odd skill out. It's entirely worthless outside of the damage and isn't even remotely worth putting points into and 6% bullet shred still isn't worth the investment
>>581271551They nerfed drain last patch so they're given the compensation back this patch.
>Tunnel money nerfssucks but understandableWe'll probably get more Rem-sized freaks, or maybe the shrink ray will be added for everyone else
>>581257401>Dashes and light melee's no longer pause your gun's cycle time (this is a general change that affects high-cycle time weapons the most like Silver or Abrams)SILVER SISSIES WERE SO BACK
>>581264145>>581265414Makes me feel like some kinda minigun using hero is on the way and that's a prebuff
>Abrams Rem into double m1gger laneThis is agony
>>581271785She was really strong a few patches ago.
>Venator is allowed to use Rico + Split shot on Ira DominiWell I guess I know what im buying later
>>581270351I noticed you also removed her tattoos. I must admit I have done the same.
>>581257401>Silver buffsWE BACK
>>581265409haze never left, her pick rate is still like 48%.
>Shiv: Alt fire base damage increased by 4%>Shiv: Alt fire damage per boon increased from +0.2 to +0.24>Getting stunned now pauses your reload rather than restarting it (this means if you get parried you won't lose your whole reload)>Dashes and light melee's no longer pause your gun's cycle time (this is a general change that affects high-cycle time weapons the most like Silver or Abrams)seems like a decent buff to punch shiv since you can alt fire -> punch -> alt firedecay change is arguably better for maintaining rage too
i like rem
>>581273235I speak for all of us when I say we ALL like rem
God, I fucking hate being the better player, but the bad team wins anyways. So fucking retarded
>>581270004Holy finally someone said itCeleste should have been a proper bimbo stripper
>>581273304post scoreboard, let's see it.
>ira domini can ricochet
>Didn't address frontliners not dying at allW patch yoshi
>no calico or mo nerfsthese devs are like a month behind
>>581273627im brick and trans btw if that helps
>>581273627Problem?
>>581273754they are actually many months ahead
if you werent e6 before the mm reset your opinion means 0
I was catching up to the night shift stream at 2x speed. Now I'm caught up and the game looks so fucking slow at 1x. Was it always this slow? Why does it feel so fast when you're actually playing it?
>>581273518SPLITSHOT IRI DOMINI
>>581273946When you have to actually parse everything yourself it feels much faster paced than watching somebody do it.
>>581273770Abrams when we get a dedicated tank killer I'm going to make it my life's work brutally molesting you in your jungle
>>581274101>dedicated tank killerwolverine coming soon
>>581274082Makes sense.Now I wonder, has a game dev ever done a massive change where they just increase the speed of everything in the game to 1.1x or something? Or the reverse where they made everything slower?
>nothing burger silver and shiv "buffs"W yoshi
>nerfs to every single part of viscous>except spirit scaling on ballokay thanks I appreciate the wheelchair you've given me after breaking my spine
predictions on when gun will be relevant again?
why does puckett ever get gigs
>Venator ult with ricovery funnybut if the shot kills it doesn't bounce, same with normal bullets when I checkedis that intended or a bug?
Divine Kevlarchads won bigly. I'm telling you, if you're playing Infernus, Pocket, Warden, Dynamo, Seven, Drifter or basically any hero who expects to get shot at shortly after using ult and also really likes ability duration you NEED to be buying this item
>nerf comeback mechanics>now game is unplayable if you're behindAs seen in this current EU match. Good fucking job, Yoshi. You fucking downie retard.
>>581274528Kevlar is very good now.People will catch on after a few days.
>>581269726>why does a murder hobo society like to play a murder hobo character
>>581274607last game had a comeback
>>581274607Nigga you didn't see last game?
>>581274607retard lol
>>581274607Maybe dont fall behind then chuddie
okay no ult silver might be actually good now just buy witchmail and pick everyone with 2 - 3 ult is still useless due to close range
>>581274607Did you miss the first match, faggot retard? Literally a huge comeback, dumbfuck
>>581274528I always really liked it on Pocket but yeah it's time to start buying it on others
>>581274607>cant just afk for 10 mins post lane phase and be back in the gameultra based
uh oh oses shit his diaper
>>581274607Tencent bot post
>games are too snowbally>devs add comeback mechanics>"WAAAHHH TEAMS SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO WIN FROM BEHIND">devs nerf comeback mechanics>games is too snowbally
>valve added a hidden UI element to telegraph if you're bug abusing their physics system through footage alonethey almost got me but im smarter
>>581274989did they nerf it inbetween games?
but what are the other good venator ult items to go with riccochet/split shot. I guess kevlar cuz it lowers the cooldown now but what items do I build to maximize damage on snipes and then fuck off when my ult isn't up
>>581274989the comeback mechanics were literally so strong that the losing team was actually winning retardbro
Why do Slavs have such weak mentals>teamwipe while both shrines are still up>rage quits in a comp match
>16k less souls>1k less damagelol
>siphon bullets untouched>merc mag still works exactly the same but with 20% less damage>spiritual overflow nerfed by an entire 10 (TEN!!!!!!!) spirit and 5% fire rate>splatter still deals 200 damage 1 minute in>gun lash has like 2m less falloff range>warden got bullet scaling nerfed for like the seventh time while every other broken part of his kit is still in>celeste also nothingburger nerfs>wraith got cards slightly nerfed while full auto GOT BUFFED BY FIFTY FUCKING PERCENTWhy is iceshart like this
Why is this allowed? They didn't even have shrines yet and he ragequit anyway. He left his team to defend base without him. How hard is it to just stay in the game for another 2 minutes?
>>581275096Sharpshooter and Hollow Point
>>581275138Nihilism coupled with low trust and low responsibility society
>>581275138>>581275196Russians are not human.Hope this helps
>>581275096Sharpshooter with Compress CD imbued on ult is my secret chinese ultbot build.
>>581275152Was Geist's power surge on her 2 or 1? And I assume BE is on the 1
>>581275196He is sl*vic
>>581275196>How hard is it to just stay in the game for another 2 minutes?if you think the game would be lost in 2 minutes anyway why should they stay?
>>581275313To not leave his team out to dry when the rest of them are still playing and trying their best.
>>581275219>>581275271so it literally is just build as much weapon damage as possible? there's no weird shit like paradox carbine?
>>581275192Artifact 2.0
>>581275407he is the team captain, you don't think his team agreed it was gg?
>>581275418>so it literally is just build as much weapon damage as possible? Yep. That's also the problem with his ult. Once you have a lot of weapon damage, just holding M1 is better than pressing your ult. But that's honestly fine, if his ult wasn't as strong as it is in early-mid he would literally be doing nothing until lategame.
>>581275418Yeah there's no secret sauce. You can basically build it like Carbine except it works with ult items instead of Express Shot.
>enemy team has like 6 spirit burst heroes>only running fort and bvestwhy didn't he build spirit res?
>>581275786Not in his left to right
>>581274989That's how it was with Dota 2 also.Tale as old as time.
>>581275786Slavs only build L->R and dont believe in counter buying even in proplay
>>581275196>osesguess I should stop using his builds
Does Vindicta snipe work with ricochet
>>581275786He's an L->R god
>>581276550all of his builds are just "look at what perceived best [hero] player builds, copy it, and name it oses build" anyway
>>581276557NoIt's not a gun shot.
>>581276557No but it should
>>581247462>some of the most obnoxious niggerlicious characters in idc/fun to fight tiersAre you high?
>>581267482Flavor of the week got nerfed because of the constant reddit bitching
JUST YOU WAIT!!!NEXT PATCH YOSHI REMOVES MOVEMENT BUGS FOR SURE!!!1!
>veil walker and egg gutted>merc mag and spirit ov barely touchedffs yoshi
>>581277306veil walker will never be bad as long as it heals you and makes you invisible lol
SPIRITUAL OVERFLOWMERC MAGSIPHON BULLETS
>>581277306fuck egg
>>581277465This nigga would go CRAZY on deadlock
Sniper or double bomb Paradox? I keep being told sniper is just better but I like just throwing bombs into a team fight and doing my job.
>>581277306this makes me sad every time its posted please stop being mean to rem
>>581277681Carbine is better if you can land and are aggressiveBomb is good lategame but really iffy until then.
>sticking people with two serrated knives went from 1k~ damage to 1.6k damage>procs spirit burn super fast nowlooks like shiv is reentering my hero pool
>>58127768190% of carbidedoxes damage comes from the express shot+head hunter+sharpshooter combo. You dont need more than that on her.
>>581277465My whole life has changed...
>>581277684He deserves it.
>>581277684
>>581277684rem bullying is something trannies are obsessed with, they hate cute things because they will never be cute (or women)
>>581276530if you have to counter buy, it's a comp diff
>>581262430I get why they did the doors forced to stay open thing but man he feels so much less fluid to play due to it
How long until Oses rage quits?
>>581278304>that guy who brings up trannies for no reason in every thread
what is this commentary
>>581278481>>581275731
>>581275196How did he go from the Rapist to the Raped so fast wtf.
>>581275152people here told me carbinedox was a meme
>>581275196have you never watched mobas in a tournament format newfriend
>>581277684Rem deserves WORSE>>581278304I just hate Rem since his whole kit just let's him take a lot of risk and get bailed out 9 times out of 10>Go to enemy jungle>Take their sinners uncontested most of the time>If you are contested have a high mobility teammate come near you for you to tag along and get outOr>Use ult to either run away or have teammates gank for kills
>>581279051They were incorrect.Railgundox is the main way to play her currently.
>>581279154>They were incorrect.I know, ive been saying it for months
how did BE know a patch was coming?
>>581279727They've got to have a player in the play test and knew it was coming.>"uh yeah we can't play this week, uhh two of us are busy :)"Maybe light bringer
>New Legacy is already dedlmao commend dew plz
>>581280194Apparently they will be back when they find a replacement for fishcake or he decides to rejoin.
>>581278629Pretty much par for the course for DNS. You are better off just muting the audio most of the time.
>>581280194They played for ONE week after Eido hyped it up for months. What a joke
>>581280407eido is full of shit desu he paused 2 minutes into a scrim to flame fishcake before fishcake left that nigga ain't coming back
It's weird how egg was worthless then sold, then really good and now I'm not sure I'd ever buy it on somebody that isn't full support
>Pick Celeste>WinHow about another patch, Yoshi?
>>581280545>he paused 2 minutes into a scrim to flame fishcake before fishcake left that nigga ain't coming backno cap?
>>581280194him + eido are "locker room" cancer i'd be willing to bet whenever a real """"pro"""" scene takes off neither are in any relevant team because no one wants to deal with them
>>581280624yes https://www.twitch.tv/eido/clip/MoldyVivaciousThymePlanking-DM77TBSkAhS89cUi
>>581280194>>581280910Dew liking Eido is enough for me to hate him too, figures they both like Pockets gameplay.
>>581280194Don't worry eidos next super team will be the one.
>>581281000kek
>>581281000These are the teammates I get in my standard games, you die once in lane and they type gg and AFK the rest of the game. How is this guy a pro?
>>581281000Don't worry he will easily find a replacement everyone wants to work with him.
i wonder how much animosity and hatred there is in the russian deadlock scene, do the pros hate each other? they've gone through so many roster swaps and they're known for being toxic third-worlders
>>581281394maybe one of those Eido Academy guys
>>581280910>>581281000Boy am I glad that I already hold contempt for Compy Deadlock players/streamers
>>581281321This is a alpha game with a playbase less than 100k
>>581281000this is the faggot complaining about toxic environment on his old team? LOL
>>581281569>playbase less than 100kfewer than 30k
>>581281415Whenever one Russian leaves a russian team and joins another russian team you see them always bad mouthing and being toxic when they winThey seem to take everything very personally. I wouldn't be surprised to learn Abrahams players genuinely HATE Buff Enjoyer players simply because they keep beating them
>>581281569>>581281685you retards are braindead if you open the steamchart to see a peak ccu of 50000 or 25000 or whatever number and sincerely think that is 100% of the game's playerbase
>>581281801I account for Brawl players, because I am enlightened.
>>581281758i'm more so morbidly interested in knowing how much abrahams hates leviathan and kastalia since they're all basically russians or some flavor of slav whereas buff enjoyers are more varied europeans
>>581281801Only 40k people actually grind ranked daily at the MAXIMUM
>>581281883They all change teams so often who knows
>>581270351mod name?
https://files.catbox.moe/05o2if.mp4
>>581281883Remember when everytime Abrahams beat Leviathan they would always type shit like "ez" or "nice try"Only to get 2-0 by BE each time. They have no concept of sportsmanship
I don't get MOBA players, man. He did 14k damage in a 34 minute game and after 2 deaths begged us to just let them win.
I wanna be insane and put Telsa on Seven, maybe some Merc and Overflow just to add more.
Buff capacitor
>>581282856viable, same as arctic blast on kelvin and toxic bullets on vyper
>>581283096Toxic is viable on everyone though
>>581282823I hate these defeatist faggots. Half the time when someone's going "gg go next" right at the start we win anyways. Doesn't help that they're usually on a carry or an OP heroYou never see people on the meme useless heroes going "yep it's over, I have died 12 times in lane"
Is Cadence from north or south ixia?
>>581283257Toxic Celeste?
>>581281000BM pause aside, why was the billy rushing in like that alone?
>>581283428No pubes? Get this shit out of my sight
>>581281669Everyone was mildly annoyed with him at all times and he didn't know why.
>>581281000the "pro" scene i'm supposed to take serious
>>581281000How do you call the Asians who try really hard to sound black? Like wigger but for Asians? Because for some reason, they are all over esports and they are very obnoxious.Both Eido and crayon do it and it's sad because they both sound like they are always with the flu when they do it.
>>581283592don't worry her shitter has a nice ring of hair around it like an asian milf
>>581283792This is just what Americans sound like now
>>581283792Chigger
>>581282098big bust celestethe guy who made it made similar mods for a few other heroes as well
HAZE IS CUMMING FOR THEM
>>581281000How does this guy keep cycling through new people to make teams with him? At this point you would think nobody would want to work with him.
>>581284227Probably because he has a very large social media presence so aspiring pros just monkeybranch off him.
>>581284227>join eidos team>leave as soon as he gets uppity>now in the scene on a real team
>>581275192
>>581281569It's a top 10 game with nightly 90k and iirc the most wishlisted game on steam it's going right to the top 5 when it exits fake beta. In 3-5 years Riot or Blizz will make a clone that overshadows Deadlock by making their version less stat driven and leaning farther into hero shooter territory attracting at least x2 more players.
>>581275192you need to take the merc mag and overflow nerfs together. activating overflow with merc mag used to give you an extra 19.6% to it's damage, now with the worse scaling and worse overflow you now only get 11.4%, on top of the base damage before scaling being worse - and spirt overflow takes 35% longer to build updoes it not count unless they make the item so shit it's completely unbuyable?
>>581285313oh nonononono
New update drops and god willing the patch notes reads that sinclair has been deleted from the game
Paige is the only sexy character in all of deadlock
>>581285614
>>581285346>does it not count unless they make the item so shit it's completely unbuyable?NTA but those three items are usable on 100% of the roster and make you do phenomenal damage, these nerfs genuinely probably aren't enough.
>>581285614what are the chances we finally get a new vyper model?
>>581285614I still don't see why nigger magician ultimate needs to be on a 17 second cooldown
>>581275061Explain schizoposter
>>581285749
>>581285749Nonzero
>>581280910this is just what happens with gaymers in esports but you don't see most of it because it's fucking embarrassing how unprofessional it isalso why are we dragging dew?
WHERE IS SILVER?
Every time I watch doorman and bebop I clap in delight, seeing them get 4 times the value with half the effort
SILVER IS ON TOP THE GARAGE!
I've noticed something.This game is essentially Pay to win. Think about it, you COULD be skilled, you COULD be smart and just get better than your enemy. OR you could just perma farm, because the more money you have the more you don't need skill to do anything.
>>581287794
>>581287794goodluck farming when the enemy calico wins lane and then spends the rest of the match ganking and gaping your ass every 4 minutes
>>581277897>Shiv goes one patch without being broken as shit>Better make him broken again with more %HP damage bullshit on a fucking TANK
>pick paradox>good at hero shooters with aim trainer aim>suck at mobas because no brain>carbine snipe everyone even abrams or mo&krill for 50% of their hp at a low cooldown>if someone gets close to me throw down walls and swap and hope for the best trying to juke them into the wallsso far it's been working out alright
>>581288005Calico takes even less skill to play than half the permafarmers.
>>581280564>Implying they will ever make Celeste anything other than the best character in the game
>>581285876He's hard or something is what they'll tell you
>>581288157>pick [Broken character]>???>so far it's been working out alright
>>581287347Well tell her to get down, that's private property
>>581281883>abrahams hates leviathan and kastaliaThey are all basically one pool of players who play together split into three teams bro...
>>581257830A gimmick buff when the character desperately needed his legs back.At least the other carries cant abuse SO and MM anymore.. haha.
>Hmm should we address the rampant imbalance in our game by fixing core mistakes in the items/hero kits?>no let's adjust random values by no more than 10% and call it a month
>>581274441Item update when we get it Q2 next year
>>581289014but we got a new content patch coming out soon that will totally fix the game
So what's the Warden build now? surely he is still playable with cage intact.
You aren't ready for what mokrill will be after the item update.
People talking about nerfs like they're in E6Calm down faggots your toad tier games ain't meaningfully changing
>>581289193exactly the same shit as pre-patch
>you need to give bebop infinite space in lane or you get raped>even thats not enough because he can hook you innice game, yoshit.
why do the nightshift "casters" keep saying the balance patch is massive and that warden is useless and that celeste is way weaker when both of them got slap on the wrist nerfs with such miniscule values that they basically don't matterdo they not play the game or what
>>581289193Do you think people complain about Warden's kit because of his fucking FLASK THROW SPEED AND NOT THE FACT IT REDUCES WEAPON DAMAGE AND REMOVES A STAMINA BAR EVERY 5 SECONDS???????
>>581284227He has talent, but he is unbelievably passive aggressive, emotional (not in any good way), and incapable of self-reflection. In essence. Eido is the type of kid who runs the fastest on a team, but when his team loses he does nothing but bitch and moan and whine about it to everyone else. He'll decry his own team, instead of trying to work with them and uplift them in any way to save his own ego.
>>581289850they're just working the crowd a little ya dumb mark
>>581289898devs dont play the game, they just move sliders up or down depending on how reddit is reacting
>>581289524just dodgeand then shoot him outside of bomb range
>>581288791https://youtu.be/tP29t58Pxo0?t=137
They should make commends more like in overwatch. My lovense needs some post-game triggers.
these dudes are like 50 years old bruh
>>581290317welcome to e-sports
>>581290317fr deez uncs got 1/2 a tim inda slime
>>581289898are you retarded? it doesnt do those things if he misses it holy fuck
>they banned silver againShe's just too good.Terrifying.
>>581281000This is literally nothing lmao
remember to permaban shiv instead of doorman
>>581289898Try hitting it on a moving target now, it's really slow.
I stopped watching after the first EU gameWere there any more Silver picks
>>581257779The only movement schizos were the people who thought mobility was totally fine
>>581290758No. A silver ban though
Movement schizo....
I just got home from the wage cage. qrd on patch?
>>581291018game is just as boring as before
>>581290889Can't believe she wasn't picked more didn't they see how she DOMINATED that first match? It was BRUTAL>>581291018Most important things are dash parry getting effectively removed and egg being nuked
>>581291018Game still ass. Some op shit got shuffled around. New op shit yet to be discovered.
>>581291018>>581264145
>>581291136if everything is op nothing is op nigga
>>581291018Comeback nerfedNo more dash parriesSilver yeets flyersVenator ult ricochet memeVarious number tweaks to major players
>>581291286don't worry grey talon is still in the game
>>581281000>>581284227Don't worry, once this game goes public and the Russian zoomers discover it people like eido will be quickly made obsolete and the NA scene will die. Just like dota 2.
>>581291352gt won the first nightshift match TODAY tho
laning against infernus is fucking bullshit dude he's so ridiculously powerfulthere's nothing I can do
>>581291431on yo momma?
>>581291406there are no russian zoomers they're all in the trenches bro. you're thinking of aoomers>>581291494fr no cap
>>581291406I thought Dota 2 was in its chinese century.
>>581291247That's my icefrog
>>581291593China never recovered from the Wings curse, they haven't been relevant in dota for ages.
>>581291593dota is dead in China. They passed those anti gaming laws for minors so kids can't nolife games anymore. CIS owns that game now.
>all move slow values reduced by 20% globallycall me a retard but does this mean the slow's strength is reduced (you are slowed less) or the slow reduces your movespeed further (you are slowed more)
EOS patch soon
>>581291842two more weeks
>>581291840The "values" are reduced, meaning they are less effective. Slows are still probably objectively stronger this patch since they now affect air drag.Retard
>>581291286Cool I guess we'll ignore the 55% winrate heroes in a 6 player game
geist damage items doko
>>581291840Slows are now much more valuable because you cant just spam air dash or wall bounces to get away, they affect you much more. So it's not really fair to say they got nerfed they got buffed because it removed the way to ignore them entirely.
>>581292131And who are these illustrious FREE WIN heroes?
>>581269814Objectively correct.
>same teams every weekyawn
>>581292737EU has different rosters every week
what's the fucking point of playing billyhe's supposed to be strong in midgame but he's just a paper bag and dies instantly to everything
>nigfernus gets ricochet at 26kSurely there are better items at that point. Do """pros""" really
>>581293008m1 should make his ult ricochet
>>581293008>Surely there are better items at that pointyou tell me
venatorGODS
>>581293159I can't see his items but I can't think of any time I'd be playing Nigfernus, be at 20k souls then set aside the next 6k to rush Ricochet, but I suppose he just killed three and got midboss so maybe I'm retarded.
why did they buff shitver
>>581292412Was warden and celeste last patch. I imagine victor will now be OP again since he was still hitting 60% winrate after getting refresher at 30 minutes in top 1% lobbies.
>>581293294what item is better there?
Calling all MELEE GODS how are we feeling right now?
>>581293445I don't want to play the game anymore
>>581293428EE for example, which I'd imagine he wouldn't have at the time>>581293424>could only come up with two heroes, both of which got nerfed(You)
They overbuffed silverNerf this fucking whore
>>581292267>both k-dash and a-dashfull retard
>>581293623trans people won chud
>>581293567>EEkek do bricks really
kek they keep trying to force ricochet ira domini
>>581290078blessed
>>581293692Silver is the straight mans hero thoughbeit
>refresher geistLOL
>>581293697Troon-coded jeet brawl post>>581293632He's pro tho he knows better bro...
I was told karbinedox is a meme
>>581293567You may be a complete retard bro, every single patch has some hero become insanely op
>>581293404>>581293623EMERGENCY MEETING BROSShe CAN'T be allowed to reach 44% winrateHOW DO WE STOP HER
>ira domini can ricochet>carbine cantDEADTARDS??????
>>581293902>regular ability that does 2k damage and procs spirit burn should be able to ricochethmmmmmmm nyo!
>>581293632whats wrong with both? she uses them both really well
>>581293867>ad hominem>appeal to traditionConcession accepted.
>berserker>spellslingerHow is gun geist balanced?
>>581293826>it worked
>>581293827>no argument>ad hominemI accept your concession.
>>581293902>Team-wide gorillion damage at 10 sec cd that also timestops you for a second and can hit you cross mapwould be aids incarnate
>>581294160yeah poppers threw then that refresher play saved them
I really like how they arbitrarily decide whether to give hard numbers or just percentages when listing changes to things like bullet growth>Hero 1: Bullet growth reduced from 0.28 to 0.25>Hero 2: Bullet growth reduced by 10%Thank you Yoshi, very informative
>>581293147>ult ricochet>anyone hit by infernus ult also explodes
>>581294178I accept your wide gaping asshole when the OP heroes find you and punish your arrogance
>team has shit macro and is constantly down souls>miraculously win a team fight right above mid, up 3 at 30 min>call mid>literally no one responds, they all push mid walker into lash and seven ult and 4 die>losefree me
>>581294296the AI refuses to just pick one way to say it, and they cant figure out how to fix it
>>581294178What do you think this is? >>581293697 besides>ad hominem>appeal to authority>>581294296It's probably because different devs work on different heroes and they just paste their commits into the patch notes.
>feels harder to make a comeback from behindNOOOOO ITS SNOWBALLING AGAIN YOSHI
>>581293902Carbine is spirit damage :^)
The balance is fine, every hero is viable and no hero in particular has any more effect on the outcome of the match than any other.
why the fuck does this dogshit faggotjeet get glazed so much
>>581294478There was a huge comeback this match and the first EU match today, THO, retard.
>>581294550and ira is pureso?
>>581293008he bought ricochet that early because his team was already down 40k and it was incredibly hard to participate in fights, so his only option was to play to accelerate his farm and scale, which ended up almost working as he started outpacing the entire lobby in souls for a time as his team came back into the game
>>581294592>>581294592>>581294592>>581294592>>581294592
remove dynamo from the game or make unstoppable three times as long
>>581294683>make unstoppable three times as longgreat now dynamo can sit in two black holes without being stunnable
>>581294402Should have paused the game and told them you can get walker after but yeah
