Balance Patch>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/698776157349216434>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>581236676
>or make unstop 3 times as longI like this
comeback changes are rough in ritualistlow, bros...
I'm going to start playing Paige
>Casters keep talking about how refresher Geist is weird and rareAm I taking crazy pills? Refresher is a super normal item for late game Geist and we see it almost every other week on NS.
I had to switch my ban to Celeste because ranked is now filled with Celestrannies who didn't read the patch notes and end up going 0/15/0 because their crutch isn't an autopilot S++ tier anymore
Will this game reach Dota 2 level of popularity?
Now that the major update is next week, say something nice about sinclair bros because that hero is gonna be unrecognizeable
>>581294841I thought so too, but it is the first time it has been that good
>>581294905>dota 2>popularity
>>581294910>say something nice about sinclair brosUhhhhh hmmmmmmmmm ummmmmmmmmm errrrrrrrrrr
>>581294905Dota 2 is dead in the west brother.
>>581294910Im glad savannah and henry are both black and not an interracial couple
they need to make dynamo much lower HP, maybe 50% less
>>581294910>because that hero is gonna be unrecognizableult timer increased by %13 does not make him unrecognizable
>>581294825Paige is fun but I wish she wasn't pigeonholed into buying 4 activesI don't like having 8 fucking buttons, it's stressful, anyone who says that she's like a lol support for foids that stands back and occasionally presses her shield/aoe button has never played her
>Bebop hooks someone into a walker + 10 minute long cc + 1000000000 spirit nuke>...>Holiday hoons someone into a walker for 2 minutes straight with bouncepads>...>Paradox throws an entire team into a walker + silence>...>Doorman throws someone into a walker>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S TOO UNFAOR NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF
>>5812953204 actives isnt hard brainletI wish the item update makes it so you can make every item an active
>>5812954572 of those things are ults and everybody hates bebop, plus you have to be looking at a bebop under walker for him to get you unlike dorkman
>>581295457None of those are able to throw you into them without line of sight. Doorman can literally send you to walker in 0.5s or worse spawn which is even harder to get out of.Dont say dispel magic because eventually he's getting curse and having to hold dispel magic the whole game is unrealistic and bullshit
>try to watchbhigher level gameplay to get better>without fail the laning phase is burgerboxingThis cannot be the optimal way to play. Why do they all do it? Why dice roll when you could just not get parried and die?
Rate the patch
>>581295851It's better than before the patch at least.
>>581295825>why play game to have funwho knows man
>>581295851>paradox/geist maini won
>>581295851Bretty good
>>581295994>the piggy eats his slop happily
>>581295030>>581295082It still was considered the staple of eSports during an entire decade and the International was the biggest esports event out there and even in /v/ it got stickies that made the board unusable, newfags.
>>581295851SILVERTARDS ARE RUINING THE GAME
>>581296070Let me guess... wraithcuck?
wait why the fuck did they nerf tankbuster? wasn't everyone already saying it was shit?
>>581296114cry abt it
no shiv nerfs fuck you
>>581296114Pick up the fax.
>>5812958517/10best change was plated finally becoming "fuck all hybrid M1s" item instead of just lategame infernus/haze counter
Silver's pick rate and win rate keep getting lower and lower...
>NOOOOOOO THE SLOW ASS MID TEMPO CARRY SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED ANY FUNLet Venator game
>>581295851man celeste shouldve been a clownwe need a clown or mime girlhnnng
>>581296507
behold, neon prime lash
>Jonjon PocketUhh MLC bwos...?
>they fired ddk for being too ugly
>slows now affect air drag by 35% of the slow valuelmao its happening
>graves not S tier
>>581296674LMAOThe more I see of it the more insane it is how valve dodgged the
>>581296806i literally have NEVER seen a single western artist depict graves as even partway attractivei hate you people
THEY JUST KEEP BANNING HERTHEY WON'T STOPSHE'S BACK INTO S+ LADS
>>581296768Whats happening
>press the "the only way to lose this fight" button>lose the fightHOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
>>581297005Yoshi wtf I thought we agreed to only nerf silver? Why are you bug fixing her?
>>581296674got your number baby~
>>581296674Genuinely Concord tier.
>>581297309are you talking about the melee button?
>>581297081Was an updateSlows now partially apply in the airSo the "movement" schizos are getting nerfedand graves buffed, venator ult can riccochet, viscous punch cooldown nerfed, etc
Silver should have big tits.Lady Geist should have bigger tits.The upcoming female frontliner should have even bigger tits.
>>581297309>shooting literally does more damage>dont even have any melee items>still goes for a heavy meleeKEKAROOOOOOOO
>>581295825Because as an abstraction the players that take risks are the ones who climb mmr because they take control of the game. Of course some players are bad at it but if you passively farm you have zero influence on the game
>300 matches on Silver>Promised not to touch her until she's buffed>Yoshi is trying to trick me into playing Silver with long due bugfixesNot falling for this one, Yoshitter. Nothing about her being useless in the late game was adressed
As a venator enjoyer everyone has given me shit for picking him in ranked but now his changes are fucking broken and I'll have to fight these fucking meta slaves to play him. FUCK you yoshi
sex with masked women
Celeste needs bigger tits
the game just sucks
>>581298328heh like your mom
>>581298369shut the fuck up, his mother is a saintt. guy who fucks the mother in question in particular
>- Slowing Hex: Cooldown increased from 27s to 29sWhy?
>>581298608slows in general are all stronger. impressions from the patch:- lifestrike still a meme except for maybe silver or abrams- weighted shots might be top tier mandatory for front liners and some M1s again
So what's the verdict, are we going back to grinding the gay rank points, occasionally playing here and there, or still not coming back?
hop on street brawl
>>581298856hopoo...
I stopped playing when celeste was rapist tier saw the new patch that she got nerfed. Is that the case for real this time unlike last time she was "nerfed"
>>581298823I'll play 2 more games and that's it till the real update. Other than the comeback values on rift and egg changes, this update is a placebo thrown as a bone to shut up the whiners. Nothingburger."BTW this minor patch" probably means we're not getting the "big update" in September. October it is.
>>581299223nah, there's been a lot of dev activity. content update is probably next week with item update after the two week voting sometime in mid or late october
>>581299363>nah, there's been a lot of dev activity.You mean Yoshi & Co are playing Marvel Rivals again?
>>581295851game went from the equivalent of unclogging a shitty toilet with your bare hand to unclogging a shitty toilet with your bare hand but now you get to roll up your sleeve first
>Talon and Sinclair lowest winrate after silver>no changesContent patch reworks likely
>>581299176yes bro it's safe now
I'm not saying I don't make mistakes, but I feel like I almost always get someone uncarryable or miss a game winning counter spell or unstoppable, just not this time
>>581300743>44 minutes of torture
>>581300687>literally 0 damage items>still top damage
>>581298823They always do a minor balance patch a week before the major one
>>581300743how the fuck did you do this with such a dogshit build?
>>581299176>>581300687Celeste will literally never be balanced because she's Shiv 2.0.
>>581301147we got trans shiv before gta6
>>581301147So you're saying the flying troon and monkey shouldn't be able to mostly buy a bunch of defensive items and still facerape anybody to death?
>>581298083those thighs are scrumdiddlyumptious
>>581301558I know that it is a stunning and brave opinion that the trans icon and literal monkey shouldn't be able to buy almost exclusively green items and items related to lifesteal and be able to rape everyone.
>my prediction is that we'll end up with all nukers being meta again w the characters that got buffed (lash, yam, shiv knife change (could be buff or nerf idrk yet), holliday) and gun chars will be by default weak again like last yearA M1GGER SPEAKS
>>581301792Gun characters have been weak for over a year. The only 'gun' characters that are viable are ones that are actually spirit characters, like Wraith.
>>581300993bomb OP in ELO hell. Most of their team fights on the ground naturally as well>>581300880Its been like this all week.
>>581295851its the first patch in over a year where shiv has received changes and none of them are nerfs so I think that's pretty good
>Kelbin buffs.
I tested Venator after the changes, I don't think it's all that good. Ricochet only works of people are bunched together very closely, so you might as well just line them up and let the punch-throw do the job. Also headshots don't trigger ricochet because fuck you I guess.Split shot is nice, but if you need two stakes per shot to kill someone you're already far too behind. Otherwise it's just overkill. I don't see why you'd dedicate a slot for a 1.6k item past mid game.TL;DR: just another patch where Ven gets miniscule buffs that fail to push him above 40% WR>inb4 "I have a 99% WR with Venator!" pisslow brick retard
>>581295851The only good change was making slows actually work on air movement bullshit, but it still was not enough, and the actual problem characters have not really been touched. Wraith and Celeste are still brainless and overpowered, and they keep nerfing Warden's gun for some reason.
guys please check out my silver swimsuit mod i made using chatgpthttp://localhost:3000/silver_swimsuit.zip
>>581302996>and they keep nerfing Warden's gun for some reasonduuuuur
Who wins?>a player who used careful positioning, macro and cc to ambush someoneOr>a player who presses spacebar against a wall and achieves 10% of the speed of light
>>581303172Damn what a modits crazy what ai can do now-a-days!
>>581301792the knife change objectively is a buff because the bouncing knife was always very situational due to lack of range/it bouncing to random creeps but the new one isn't that great either because even with endgame level stats and items on someone with full hp it's only like 120 extra damage on the knife - it also seems bugged or something where it doesnt wanna proc tankbuster even if you're hitting for well over 165 so shiv still can't do that like he could in the days of myth
>>581297886But she got boon scalingShe now has more health than HAZE and CELESTE at max boons
>>581303904celeste also got an increase to hp boon scaling (as did graves)
>>581303208if it's so easy, why can't you also press spacebar to keep up with them?
Building Resilience + Spellbreaker does not fucking mean I should still be getting effortlessly nuked by spiritfaggots like that prairie nigger Gay Talon or Paracox from across the fucking map. Oh no, let's also make them slippery and incredibly fucking dishonest in terms of actually diving them because Paradox can play ring around the rosie with her wall, re-utilizing the (futile) technique she developed during her many attempts to escape her naked horny father, and Gay Talon has 4 stamina and a budget AoE curse on top of the normal ability to buy defensive items that he can use to sheepishly and incredibly effeminately jog and dash away into the warm embrace of bigger men who will protect him.
>>581304017My character doesn't have 3 base stamina, high stamina regen, high speed, high air maneuverability and low gravity
>grey talon gets stamina mastery and counterspell>I lose the game
>>581304620Brown hands made this image
>>581304620Anon your tier list is upside down!
>>581304210buy slowing hex + weighted shots or lifestrike or arctic blast and they'll flop around like a fish
>enemy warden still building merc mag overflow and turning into a 3000 mph gun shredderthank you yoshi rem tongue my anus
>>581304620
>>581304703>>581304797>>581304914why are m1ggers like this?
Boost the amount of souls minions drop.
>get rem down to 1 hp>just kidding! he pressed 2 and teleported to his teammate and both rem and him get healed to full healthwhats the counterplay
>>581304901His abilities give him more free stats than mokrill but don't worry he has to slightly aim when running at you so its balanced
>>581305076Silence
you're calling the patch good until someone random like geist becomes op then you're back to whining for another patch
>>581305076Slowing hex stops tag along from being used. Same with Vortex web and curse.It can also be interrupted, but only by specific interactions, all abilities that cause stuns can interrupt it.
>>581305149These balance patches are just a meaningless distraction to placate the idiot fucking cattle while they work on the content update
>>581304620>Celeste>Honest>Graves>Epitome of honestyis this a joke?
>>581305076slowing hex ....lmfao do you even play this game
>not a single mo changehe's the new character of the patch that everyone's going to complain about so gotta wait until the next balance patch until he gets a slap on the wrist nerf and then only after THAT patch will get nerfed properly
>>581305149Its still shit. All the changes are miniscule.>Changed X by 0.0001So it doesn't even matter. They're not trying anymore if it isn't evident already.
>>581305149drain giest was already op people just stopped building it for some reason
>>581304797The funny part is that was my initial reaction too but no, it's just all mixed up for no reason.
>>581305375And that's probably a good thing, given how many idiot fucking cattle there are here whining about WHERE IS UPDATE for a fucking alpha test
>>581305456he might actually be getting reworked like GT or sinclair
>>581305149this>OH MY GOD GUYS its crazy how no one saw how this hero thats slightly stronger than the others was so op before
>>581305501Don't choke slobbering on that cock valvedrone
>>581305608>valvedronesuch a toothless insult
>>581305149Literally the only good change this patch was nerfing movement slightly, and it isn't enough to stop characters like Celeste from being OP. They continually refuse to address real issues with the movement system, like how corner/edgeboosting lets you ignore stamina, or how doing jump-dashes is actively detrimental outside of triggering arcane surge or kinetic dash.
>>581305608Uh-oh, touchy I see.I guess you thought you WEREN'T the idiot cattle in this situation?
>>581305149this. stfu and play the game. the balance is fine, you're just shitlow. the devs don't want your whining for another patch they need actual feedback
>>581305375I would happily be a idiot fucking cattle if they actually addressed how fucked in the ass the balance was. I really haven't had a chance to read the notes, or play much with it.
>>581305879Ah, yes, the feedback they continuously ignore.
im praying they add an active that just deletes all spawned hazards like make it a t4, put it on a 100 second cooldown i don't care,just let me be able to get rid of graves walls and 3000 mcginnis turrets
>>581304620FTFY Didn't bother with placement within tiers.
>>581306375>warden>seven>honest??????????
>>581306426They honestly shoot you and you can honestly Disarming Hex them. What seems to be your issue here?
>>581306478>honestly shoot you>shoot>honest>disarming hex>against characters that have 90% innate debuff resist and 100% dispel magic buy rate
>>581306342I don't give a shit about most hazards but the fact the only way to disarm Grey Talons traps is to walk into them pisses me off.
>>581306375>mcginnis victor yamato and vindicta in honest>warden billy and seven in epitome of honestyhttps://files.catbox.moe/1ee6as.mp3
>>581306375
Why are there so many stat check heros in this game?
I'm trying to look up how graves has a positive winrate but every vod I see they're just being carried and using vomit worthy builds. Ultmaxxing?
>>581306375How is Kelvin dishonest?
>>581305912I'm not playing the game anymore. I have fatigue with this cycle of bitching about OP character of the week.
>>581307161graves whole gameplay is just spawning a rift minion wave every other minute and making it impossible to ever push a walker with her faggot ass abilitiesyou'll never see an aggressive graves do well unless the enemy team is retarded
>>581307161Literally just play super passive and push lanes non-stop with your 2 and ult and you can spam graves to phantom
I genuinely do not know if draft would actually help this game more or make it worse.On the side of adding draft>You can properly form a team of heroes and properly counterpick/ban.On the side of not adding draft>Avoiding all of the retardation that comes with being a match of three people that all want to play one character and one of them being marked as the evil bastard to steal their pick>Also imagine if a team was able to pick every single frontliner, what do you do?
>gun victor dead>haze dead>warden deadWhat do I even play now in rankeds?!?!
>>581307161Absolute lane janny splitpusher + early lane Hitler. She's being carried because she can't win the game by herself but she makes it much easier for the team to win by freeing up her team's carries while enemy team has to constantly worry about walkers.
>- Warden: Bullet damage per boon reduced from 0.28 to 0.25Has this EVER, E V E R been buffed?They constantly nerf warden's gun
>>581307416Ricochet Venator.
>>581307303>>581307438Not that anon but I though afk putting down tombstone ended up just feeding the enemy a bunch since that one patch that nerfed her.
>>581307416why is gun victor dead?
>>581307626Merc mag is bad spiritual overflow is bad therefore its bad. >>581307554I have to play standard for that though, :(
>play paradox>my ULTIMATE ABILITY swap hits enemy celeste at the same time as enemy bebops NON ULTIMATE hook>my ULTIMATE ABILITY loses this interaction and he saves celeste for free from a sure killJust fucking delete paradox or bebop, i don't care which at this point
>>581307161Graves cannot carryBut she can make room for other characters to carry because she wastes the enemy's time on the map and mental stack in fights.
>>581307562Yeah.AFK Tombstone only makes some sense when enemy team is otherwise occupied like at Rift or defending a Walker on the other side of map or something.It's generally better to use them for active pushes with buddies though, it's a bitch keeping track of and dodging the zombies while fighting three real people and a swarm of skulls (and the Tombstone is behind a Rift wave and has an autoparry Graves inside).You ain't shitting the zombies from the Tombstone all the time, you're just spamming your rift since they also added zombie spawns to that.
Just had the weirdest game experience but here is the rough greentext.>Playing Lash>Hit a 5 man Lash ult>2 black people on my team>They call me their nigga>They start getting very loud over voice>Telling me to call to say I'm their nigga>They're obviously drunk or under the influence of something>I tell them I'm not black so I can't say that word>They say they don't give a fuck>I say I'm the biggest nigga>They start to go wild in voiceDoes anyone know if replay saves voice chat?
>>581307416Silver
>>581307562You don't just put it down and then leave unless there's an objective going on somewhere else and you don't think you'll need it thereAlso put the tombstone beyond the veils in midboss rather than near the pit so the zombie pathing doesn't fuck up.
>>581308119GIGA NIGGA
>>581308119You're a pussy for not saying "I'm your nigga" when they asked.You're an even bigger pussy for not saying "shut up you retarded black gorilla nigger or I will whip your negro slave ass" when they asked.
OhI just realzied Silver is actually total dogshit. her ult is fucking worthless>transform>become weaker and dieSilver is only a problem for shitters. When it comes the later half the game when it really counts, Silver just dies instantly.
>>581308464>silver gets buffed>silver downplayers come out in full forcegive it a rest you faggots
>>581307161Max wall and ult (get the heal on skulls if you need it in lane)Her 1 and 3 are not real abilities but just raising ghouls on grasping hands makes her janny supreme.
>>581295457The rest actually have to close to walker, especially Paradox, Doorman does not
>>581294592>Ivy nerfedI will kudzu bomb yoshi's house!
>>581308854not enough
We need a big booty brazillian hero.
quickie painting of the paradox sketch
>>581308546Bola also got shadow nerfed with the global changes so now the slow is weaker and it already disabled stamina usage so it doesn't benefit from the dash speed reductionThough weighted bola is probably really strong (still won't work on Mina ult... just because?)>>581308464Diviner's kevlar might be THE Silver itemUlt CD and duration and fat ass shieldGonna start shield maxxing and picking up glass canon because her health is still shit
enemy tanks:abhramvictoryour tank:shiv (solo)
>>581310045>not building tank yourself to fill the differenceretard
can you actually stop holliday and celeste from flying away now after the slow changes?
>>581310119as yes classic tank rem
>>581310318viablereported
>global changes>Silver most affected
why didn't they nerf siphon bullets?
>>581309239we need 5 big booty brazilians
>all the leaktards really did get cuckedImpressed.
>>581310318>tank rem>about to kill tank rem>tank rem jumps into someone's ass>aieeee
>>581310620Real
>>581310680it happened just as silver got finished earlier in the year
>>581310709rem has no synergistic abilities that make him tankier and bad health boon growth though
>>581310812You can go into someone's ass then hit echo shart go into another person's ass and you effectively have like 5k hp. Skill issue.
Wait, how did they change Plated armor? I don't see anything
>>581311006you're aware that tanks are supposed to take up space and be the frontline for their team instead of fuck off into the nether world for 10 seconds at at time right
I havent played since Doorman became popular and retards ruined his good name, is Doorman cool again yet?
>>5812958518/10, it needed to give graves more sauce
>>581295851Good patch to greet the new major update with
>>581311576Yeah the major update that's 1 month away
patch in 5
theres a retarded bug where if you die as victor with rejuv it gets counted as a normal death statistically which is really lowering my statlocker score
>>581310567because it's not OP and it's the only one of like 2 or 3 anti-tank items
Sliding with Ira Domini gives you infinite ammo. Hotfix inbound use venator while you can
I wish it took longer to rotate between lanes so I could play Mirage more like Natures Prophet
>>581312213Me when I spread misinformation
>>581309239ok but they're all men like ricardo milos
ira pomini............
Doorman having to wait 8 seconds before he can close the door has completely destroyed the character for me. Over half of my playtime was on Doorman and now I no longer have even the slightest desire to play him. Why would Yoshi do this
>>581312815Because he is a shitty design who makes the game worse with his inclusion, which has led to even more powercreep to deal with his retarded mobility.
>>581310718get real
how the fuck do you die 20 times as seven? these people aren't real
There's no MM in street brawl so im forced to play apollo or some other dps carry or my braindead subhumans wont focus the haze ulting. Genuinely how do you win with bebop in this mode you cant build stacks and your team wont follow up on hooks
>>581313186>jeet brawl
Dudes getting mad in street brawl lol
>>581310476many such cases
>>581313186Genuinely skill issue. I have like 65% winrate in BROOL only random.
>>581314023bebop has the lowest damage in the game without bomb stacks if they interrupt your ult and you dont go gun you do like 30 damage a second and only if bomb lands isnt counterspelled lol
you can heavy melee out of secret shop with 0 stam loss and no clamber
>>581314448Never go ultbop on brawl only bomb/tank.
>>581313186What street brawl are you playing people always follow up on hooks
>>581311138affects more on-hit effects, particularly merc magnum
>>581296114Dragon's Dogma 2 also got a sticky on /v/Mods play favorites
>>581311006Imagine a full green Victor runs at you, uses all his cooldowns and stays glued to you and yet and your healthbar doesn't go down. He's unkillable, but he can't kill you either. What's stopping you from ignoring him and running towards the killable enemies?
Just woke up>- Tankbuster: Current Health Bonus damage reduced from 8% to 7.5%Why did they nerf the worst item in the game?
>>581294905>>581295082>>581295030What did League do that Dota didnt?
>>581307438Graves is incredibly good at pushing, defending without needing to be there for longer than 5 seconds and especially teamfightingGraves is busted overall
>>581294910>say something nice about sinclair brosuhhhh he reminds of a mildly funny tiktok content creator
>>581317269pay out the ass for e sports
Drifter fucking sucks
>>581316829that victor should just buy ee
>>581317363
>>581317540so does mina
Enduring Speed might actually be a must buy every game now.
>>581317868always was
How do I stop going 1-9 with WraithI'm not overextending when pushing lanes usually, most of my deaths are from teamfights where I'm the first to go down
>>581318008let your team initiate or front line. or just go farm and then arrive in the middle of the teamfight like most wraiths do
>>581295082>dead in the westYou mean in the US?Which is a weird comparison to make to league of legends which is dead everywhere but in Asia.
>>581317672No I'm dead seriousDrifter fucking suck, if you dont win your lane shit snowballs out of control and you cannot do anything as Drifter besides playing macro and being a lane janny
I've been playing with Weighted Shots. It's underrated OP this patch.
>everyone: movement is too powerful and difficult to counter>yoshi: *nerfs movement slow*based?
>>581311730The year is almost over. If they don't release a major content patch by the end of the month nothing is coming out this year. February at the absolute earliest.
>>581318756try skinny shots
>>581318883yeah the 35% air drag slow is literally nothing
>>581319051he's slowly removing movement bit by bit but not all at once so movement trannies dont hang themselvestrust the plan
life strike with healing booster is really fucking good right now
>>581319051use slowing hex + whatever item slow your hero has. they can't move for shit, they're basically wasting an air dash when slows and slowing hex are combo'd
>>581319051>t. movementroon downplaying so people won't slow ximkekaroo. your days are numbered, troon
since this game is dead anyone know how to do combos with spiderman in marvel rivals? I cant figure out how to kill anyone at all
>>581318259LoL is yuge is western yurop, especially France. Barely anyone plays Dota or Deadlock for that matter here.
>still havent fixed the bug where apollo loses all his charges on flawless if stunned during cast
>something about a patch to silvers shotgun cycling in patch notes>play a match>slam fire STILL gets stuck and won't fire after actions
the ricochett ira domini is only good if you headshot all 3 shots, splitshot is pure garbage>>581319792thats intended
>be lash>get massive ult>dynamo presses 1 button
how do I figure out what items are actually good? I just do L>R and I can't tell if the items are doing anything
>>581320073Don't bother, it doesn't matter anyway
>>581319937ricochet doesn't work with headshots (crackshot being the one exception)
>>581319813They fixed it so you can light melee or dash without fucking your cycle time which feels pretty good.>>581320073You'll have to do math im afraid. Sorry you had to find out math was actually useful on occasion.
>>581317269the real answer is it could run on microwaves during 2010-2015. Every casualfag was playing it on their macbooks.
played like 10 matches since the new patchcomebacks are absolutely impossible now great job yoshi. if the enemy team has a 20k lead on you it's gg, you can literally never recover
>>5812958518/10, gutted wraith/lash/warden so I will never have to see them EVERY SINGLE GAME like before.
>>581320139good input mr brick
>Unstable Rift comeback resist max valueswhat the fuck do these words even mean>>581320957I don't play ranked loser
>>581320797Skill issue on your endComebacks are always possible, the only thing stopping you is tilt.
>bronze game>my paradox is very vocal and keeps making calls>in lane, we are dominating and both mirage and bebop are cowering low health under guardian>leaves me alone to do boxes at 3min>both enemies heal to 3/4th health>when urn pops he says "alright I'm running urn" right in front of both enemies and the wave is not pushed>gets hooked and raped>"damn, my bad">this continues with calls like "let's do mid" when only 3 people on our side are up and Abrams has his maxxed ultI appreciate being vocal and trying to involve the team but we're in bronze, shouldn't we just try to do the basics well first like macro or itemization?
>>581321139You should always comm honestlyEven if the play is sub-optimal, its best everyone is aware and doing it regardless.Sometimes you have to go full retard and risk it all
>>581321207>You should always comm honestlyI'm too shy...
>>581321207I'm just saying feels like the guy was trying to emulate what the big boys do in Night Shit while not really understanding the plays or taking into account we're mostly shit down there in bronze.
>be volvo>decide to create a fun hybrid of hero shooters and moba>excellent storytelling and art direction>fun movement mechanics>nice fun set of abilities and items>9000 weird hidden mechanics tied to shit like game timer that directly shape the meta exactly into what you want it to be
>riposte still flings you past the target 40% of the time Is this just a net code thing or what
how much mmr will the meta abusers lose now?
>>581321292I know what you mean retardos watch a lot of streams so they can larp as a good player but dont have the skills necessary to actually be one. They inevitably get mad at their teammates for losing them the game too.
>be me>only reason game is remotely winnable>run at 3 people >get two low>3rd one sucks them off >I die>see team >4 of them in spawn all clearing one lane>Retarded teammates will be the end of this game.
mo krill fags are sexual predators
>>581321616>Retarded teammates will be the end of this game.I don't know what they were thinking increasing team size to 6. Should have been 4.
>>581321504They'll simply switch to an evergreen overpowered hero like Seven or Victor. They wont lose any mmr.
>>581321207This.I'd rather take a harebrained 6v6 Mid take against fresh Dynamo and Lash than zero comms and everyone just doing their own thing and we get picked off one by one because enemy team actually plays like they are a team.>>581321139I've not seen a situation in which someone fucks off to run boxes in lane and it ends well until Oracle. Pretty much everyone who does it in low ranks does it because they saw an eceleb do it and they have no idea why or when to do it and their lane partner suffers because of it.
They really need to reduce Yamato's ult cooldown, it's way too long for what it does
>>581321623I GOT THEM MAURICE
Silver is... not a total dogshit anymore?NERF HER INTO THE GROUND NOW WTF YOSHI>please pay no attention to Wraith STILL running the lobby despite all the nerfs
>>581321053it's been happening when i win too ya dingus
>have 4 of the 6 enemy team down>the last 2 are Dynamo and Lash>Can't go midWhy do they make some heroes who can legit 1v6 and steal mid? If you are down 4 ppl you shouldn't get a free mid contest just cuz you got 2 ppl to press 4.
Newfags will learn why Silver was being kept low.
why not just delete egg at this point
>>581322239Because of night shift tards?
>>581322239Because Yoshi listens to literal who streamers?Bitch got nerfed right after release and they kept nerfing her for over half a year
>>581320797simply don't let the other team get 20k ahead.it's that easy.
>>581320797For some reason, Valvedrones love onesided shit matches and hate any possibility of a comeback, I suspect it's because a lot of them are sadistic thirdies who are the type to get off bullying NPCs in godmode and not be bored out of their minds.
>>581321928yeah its pretty bad rnwhen it made you unkillable it made sense to be a big cooldownbut a chunk of resists? wtfits best use is just using the invulnerability to dodge something telegraphed or that is delayed on you in the middle of a fight, like a better counter spell basicallyeven just using it for a cooldown reset to grapple a cunt a few more times, which compared to its cooldown really is not worth it
>>581320797Unironically if a game goes 30+ mins the game is winnable, very easily too. All you got to do is pick 1 or 2 people then mid is free and you win.
league is the sadistic one sided stomp game though
>>581323343>game revolves EVEN MORE about mid now>implying a team with a 20k lead will even let you get that kind of advantage in the first placeHOLY pisslow
>>581323356>brings up league unprompted>can't bring himself to reply directly to the post he's referencingLooks like that post hit the bullseye, slavic valvedrone
>>581323408Depends on draft. 20k lead is meaningless if you've got any pick hero like Mo or Holliday veilwalking around and a enemy carry gets careless for a single moment.But I agree it sucks that midboss is even more important now.
>>581323408>implying that games even in my ascendant lobbies are in any way coordinatedThere is a reason Drifter has been good for as long as he has been.
>>581320797I just don't understand why they keep listening to streamers. Always the most retarded takes. >remove egg>revert comeback mechanicsThere. The patch is now perfect.
>>581323408>matches only get thrown in low eloSad high elo larper
>>581323517you gotta get a pick like that at least 3 times in a row and capitalize on it with mid and/or rift for that to matterit simply doesn't happen outside of premade comp
>>581321928>>581323301It's fine right now. She buys refresher late game anyway.Unstoppable with decent resists and a pseudo-dispel (doesnt work vs silence) is very strong. It also resets her abilities so you cant have it be too low CD or she'll just win every 1v2+ if she ever gets fed.
>ship's knives now does %HP damage on impact at full rageWe're eating good shiv bros
New divine kevlar on Yamato Think about it
>>581324779It's a nobrainer
We'll be able to pull waves and stack camps in the jungle update
Hey just giving you all a heads upLearn the corner camps and underground routes before the major update dropsThank me later
>>581324779this + new max crimson = 死になく
>>581324779just get witchmail
>>581325180disgusting ai slop
I just realized even if you qualify 3 heroes into ranked, they could be nerfed at any moment
>>581325180>SEAmonkey caked in layers upon layers of makeup and filters>larping as their Chinese/Korean/Japanese superiorsThis shit is so common and it's funny every single time
>>581325262"Nerfs could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this neighborhood before. There could be nerfs anywhere."
>>581325262The trick is to pick 3 of the same role. I have apollo, drifter, and shiv. At least one of these will be OP because they fulfill the spirit brooler role.
>>581320239it does for ira domini, test it in sandbox
>>581326169welp i just assumed because >>581302724 said itbut maybe he also assumed it off gun headshots
amazing how creatively bankrupt this game is. 95% of abilities are just point and click nukes, point and click movement, and aoe circles. there isn't a single hero with complex item/ability combos like rivals has
>no brown people in the last two hero updates>mentally ill part of the fanbase cries and is so desperate to fill their brown addiction they make ugly blackface modsYoshi is going to cave for the next update isnt he? 5 more calicos for the ritual.
>>581327001apollo is brazilianhe dies his hair because he's a mutt who wants to be white
>>581326964>rivalslolbut yeah we'll never get complex heroes like >rubick>arc warden>brewmaster>chen>broodmother>phoenix>invoker>kez>earth spirit>lone druid>morphling
>>581324652I think it was an overall nerf. Shiv thrives when you can fight multiple targets>multihit dashes for cd reset>multi-execute for clean sweaps>knife bounces so you can build ee stacks on multiple target and force multiple debuff remover pops on a single cdMeanwhile, 3,5 current health is gonna be 80-120 damage extra per knife. It is kind of a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things.The right click buffs were also just a compensation for the ammo use nerfs before.
>>581327001Billy is dominican
>>581326964it's still funny to see how people pretend that Deadlock is really complexIt's probably the reason why some people don't even bother playing it, some retard scared them off by saying game is hard
>>581327001I would not mind 6 big booty Brazillians in the next update.
>>581327367based dunning kruger retard
Rem is black
Paige is ginger, basically a nigger
>>581326964truth nukedeadlock is ruined by the shitty melee system there's no way for them to add a spider-man to the game because he would have to shoot orbs during the most boring 5-8 minutes of the game (so retarded)
>>581327269When I read the patch I didnt realize they removed ricochet. Why did they remove ricochet? Buff the fucking scaling at least. What are these retards doing.
next patch>Paige heavy melee spirit scaling increased from 0,45 to 2.5
>>581327563t. hollywood executive
>>581327747They also nerfed Radiant and Locket again, which are two items that are hypersynergistic with Shiv's kit, so really he just got nerfed again.
FACT: Parry should not be in the game. Melee is more fun playing around ping mind game parry is a vibe killer.
>>581327406I got to work with a Dominican over the summer and she had the most majestic and perfect ass ive ever witnessed in meatspace. Before this year I never really cared about Latinas but she has drastically altered the course of my life from the moment I first gazed upon dat ass. I have started going back to the gym in preparation of her return next year.
>>581327920Yeah it's just too fucking binaryRetarded mechanic
Long time Venator main here, played one game of Venator. Here's my verdict on the changes:>split shot is still dogshit on him>ricochet rush is viable after 4.8k gun and green>ricochet is very good if the game is very teamfight-yI like ricochet giving you one more build path option. Usually, I just go extra charge -> spellslinger or glass cannon if I'm raping hard after the 4.8ks.
Is melee venator still a memeIs it still viable enough to be fun in pubs
>>581328925>it's just too fucking binaryOkay Pocket
I love playing LashI kind of like playing Graves, Victor, MoKWhat other hero should I try next?
What if Louis was in Deadlock?
>>581329374Apollo
>>581329521HEADED TO BLUE, BITCH!
>>581329521SOULS HEREBetter grab everything I can.
>>581329559Don't you have to aim as apollo?
How long should I hold the egg
>>581327001Yes, Yoshi caves to all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons
>>581326964>there isn't a single hero with complex item/ability combos like rivals hasYou'll probably get shit for mentioning Rivals but you're right, there's a lot in that game the Deadlock devs could steal and learn from.>>581327229>complex>most are just busywork high APM chore characters barely anyone wants to playAlso the nature of Deadlock makes a hero like Rubrick completely broken and impossible to balance, Sinclair is the closest we'll get and that's fine
Rems lil helpers play with the ball in the hub now
>>581329854Only in their general direction
>if everyone in the team disconnects the match gets cancelledIs there no consequences to this? This is like the fifth time this has happened today. It's not abandon either (I didn't get the abandon message), everyone just disconnected.
>>581329521>*loud death scream in long distance>THEY GOT LOUIS
>>581327367But the game IS hard, there's a lot to learn and more skills to master than any other shooter out there right now. Deadlock is significantly faster than other mobas and has significantly more mechanics to worry about than other shooters, making the roster super complex on top of that is probably a bad idea. I dont even know how you would design a super complex character high skill character that also fits into the game.
>>581295082Does Russia count as "the west"?
>>581332076It's more like the north, isn't it?
This game is deader than marvel rivals and ow2 lol lmao
I've had to mute way less people ever since they brought back ranked
While we're on the topic of Dota heroes, Deadlock needs a Phantom Lancer type hero. And a Storm Spirit.
>>581329146rico venator was already something I liked if you were basically the only dps on your team and needed enough damage to wipe the entire enemy team in a fightbut now he can build it as a farming tool as well and it will help his ult even if he doesn't need it solely for fightingso its definitely gotten a lot more interesting on him
>>581332297>35k current>71k daily peakOh, that's a lot more than I thought actually lmao
My ModMic has finally broken after almost 10 years, its turning my voice into static earrapeI kinda want a headset this time instead, someone tell me what to buy
>>581331946Deadlock is a macro game first, movement game second and shooter third. And regarding macro, the game is much simpler than even League of Legends, for movement the basics like mantle sliding and wall jumping is enough to get to Emissary that no matter how much Eternus people play elitist is still 78th percentile.Compared to other ASSFAGGOTS it's a very simple game to wrap your head around if you don't have fat fingers or can't move in a 3D space. It's only a complicated game to get into if you're straight off some hero or class based shooter.
>>581332907>Deadlock is a macro game first, movement game second and shooter third. >shoother thirdIs that why most pros come from games like Overwatch rather than League/Dota? Good aim on an M1 alone will carry you to the high ranks, there's definitely a shooting focus in this game.
>>581332907>Deadlock is a macro game first, movement game second and shooter thirdNo it isn't, it's a moba+hero shooter mix, there's no order to it and there's no equivalent game
>>581333061It's much easier to climb with shit aiming and excellent macro than the opposite if you pick the corresponding characters. I've seen plenty of people with good aim stuck in shitlow because they'd rather farm jungle than shove waves or refusing to buy the proper greens because muh DPS.
>>581317269Runs on lower end machines, more readable art style, less obnoxious CC philosophy, better micro so more interesting to watch. They also changed their artstyle like three times, settling on the current "korean anime fantasy" that prints money.>>581317473I mean, Valve does too. To be brutally honest, MOBA eSports is largely artifical. The moment they stop funding it the moment it shrinks to something slightly larger than the FGC.
>>581333252For now. It really takes 2 braincells to push waves and stop jungling and eventually people will learn and you wont climb by being garbage. And they're reworking the jungle anyway. Other than that deadlock has no macro you just teamfight then do boss. That's literally the entire game. Pushing walkers? Who cares. Get mid boss you kill all the walkers and probably end the game too.
>>581333375First walker is made out of papier maché and nets you 3.6k souls if you take it solo though
>we're back to billy soloraping 1v12 every single matchhow fun
>>581333306valve only funds 1 tournament and doesn't funnel money into that tournament anymorebut yet there are many of other tournaments ran with millions of dollars as prizes throughout the year by other organizersdota is basically the only large non-artificial esport
>>581333497What happened? Lifestrike?
>>581333252Eh, it's more like as long as your macro isn't abysmal, aim will carry you to Ascendant minimum. It's not like this game has much in the way of macro. Push waves, farm backwards, you're 70% of the way there.If you question anything I've just said, watch xQc's streams and realize how low the bar is set.
>>581333556everyone's spamming haze in high rank lobbies so you need billy to counteract that
>>581333497these stats are wrong, gayboy
2 more weeks
>>581333948i think the spiking of hardware prices and environmental damage was worth the creation of this singular webmthank youeven if the sky turns gray and the air becomes unbreathable at least this webm got madeim so glad
>>581329521What if I was in Deadlock?
we need a doll hero
we need an illusion hero
we need a witch hero
we need a bitch hero
Post ur crosshair
>>581334585>>581334632>>581334662Yesyesyes>>581334795Mina and silver is already here
Wraith still shits damage even with MercMag and Spirit Overflow nerf because they didn't touch the spades card.
I need a hero
>>581329521Better grab all I canHehehehahaha
>>581336007>buy plated>already own spirit resilience for the rest of your team>block 80% of your damage
>>581336427nice try, resistcuck
>>581336169Calico
Why is Deadlock full of midwit mongoloids that are consistently wrong about literally everything?
best holliday build?
>>581337368of course he's playing haze
>>581337642if it's not ultmaxx for pickmaxxing it's meme garbage
>>581337642max 1 max 4
>>581337642Sup Duration, Veil walker, Kevlar Whatever else you feel like
What is the thought process with this silver build?
>>581339272Headed to Green
>>581337642Lavabolt is the rank one Holliday and his is a really funny build where you max bounce pad stun, build spirit snatch, and punch the shit out of people. It's weird because none of the other builds build that but he's rank one, so his is clearly the best one
>>581332413How would you balance Storm Spirit in a game with no mana?
>>581339272Show the enemy team and I'll tell you
>>581339671The ball gets increasingly slower the more you use it in a very short period (getting slower than Dynamo's warp) or some kind of burnout for spamming.
>>581337368Egg wasn't even good prepatch, it was just that rift was apparently bugged and giving too many souls on comeback (and the fact that comeback souls had a fixed value on creep kills that was giving some wonky interactions).They fixed both with patch, so any advantage egg was giving (in itself debatable, we didn't have any solid statistics on this) would have evaporated. Nerfing egg was probably unnecessary (but I honestly don't give a shit, it is a weird item anyhow).
adding mana to deadlock would unironically fix a solid 70% of the issues with the game
>venator on brool>enhanced ricochet>enhanced splitshot>infinite rounds and haunted shotA VENATOR DOES NOT TRAFFIC IN MERCY
>Paige: penis size now scales with spiritummmmm deadtards?
>>581339996Enhanced Duration, CD, Overflow and Kevlar is a lot of fun with any cc items or tombstoneAll your shit just lasts forever
>>581339669what if i want to play as an eternus 1 holliday and not the rank one holliday
>>581339671Make the Ball Lightning equivalent charge based, except the charge depletes gradually during use. You still need a full charge to activate it but you dont need to spend the entire charge each time you use it. More ability duration makes each charge last longer.
>>581339671We have charges. It's no different from a Viscous using 6 punches to cross the map.
>>581340157You've never felt the sheer dopamine that jump pad in -> stun -> heavy melee -> head-shot gives you.
I want to have FUCK with Holliday.
>>581340692Looks like a based build
>>581340794good evening saar
Does anyone have that chat screenshot of Venator saying "You will never be a woman"?Or better yet post your favorite chat capture
>>581340794GOT’EM BRICKED UP
>>581341552From my own collection
>>581341552>favorite chat capturei have many but reading this one in victor's dejected depressed voice is so funny to me
>>581341982he's polite just like Victor.No wonder the girls are all over him.
>>581341982
>>581342381Mina would 100% say this
>>581342381>"Could you join the 42%, please?"
>>581301147Works for Me.
>>581311212No, Walkerman and Joe Chuck have permanently damaged his reputation.
>friend is permatilted playing this game with 45%wr>started playing ranked because uhh I must grind I'M GRINDIIIING NNNHGHow do I save him. I want to tell him to go play something else while waiting for the game to release but he might take this the wrong way.
>>581334557I would play (You), anon!
If you're on green lane green items should be discounted If you're on yellow lane gun items should be discounted If you're on blue lane purple items should be discounted
>my wife buffed>crackshot buffed, no lessGuess I'm getting back on
anyone here that plays shiv a lot? how do I maintain my momentum when trying m2 movement?I feel like playing shiv but not using at least his m2 for movement a little bit is griefing
>>581321364>fun movementlol no
>>581334557What if deadlock was in you?
What's the plan?
>>581327915And that's a good thing, fuck Shiv. Shiv and Celeste are two of the most obnoxious designs ever put in any game ever.
>>581327367The game is only considered complex because of 5000 random hidden 'mechanics' that are actually bugs that you have to be told how to do by some nasally tranny.>>581333306League has the same problem as Deadlock: Movement is overpowered.
>>581344987Going in
>>581341552
>>581345219Pull. BACK.
>>581341552Ah here's the one you were looking for
>>581345803kek love how hes gloating
>>581345803beautifulon par with seven asking what race haze is
>>581344987edded to bloo
>>581347306This screenshot gets lower and lower quality every time I see it
>>581294592so what other abilities can silver cancel besides vindicta's flight?
>>581348421Gay Talon Doesn't cancel but knocks down Seven It's a general phantom strike effect
How do you play against a bebop, doorman, seven, wraith, mohammad and krill, ect combo?Definitely early game. Seven and doorman coordinating basically fucks me over with endless stuns. Do I really just need to have counterspell as soon as possible and just not miss timings?I know you can just "not let them close enough" but that gets difficult when they are just as good as I am if not better Just endless ccs, it was so fucking ass
>>581348421itani lo sahn
>>581349067what
>>581349153wrong screenshot shut up
yo where the HELL is my team at
lol zerggy got banned for promoting gambling
>>581349960what gambling?
>>581345628why are ALL of her comms so passive aggressive
>>581349960Good
>team doesn't go mid when I call an obvious mid>losewhat rank do I need to be to get out of this hell?
I can't get Silver now. For 6 fucking months nobody wanted to play Silver but NOOOOOOW faggots are picking her. Fuck you. You don't deserve her.
>>581351749She's still worthless dogshit
so are we 1 week away or 2?
>>5813525501 month and 2 weeks
>>581351749People will find out her wolf form is still a melee minion and they'll switch off soon enough
am i dumb or does plated armor completely rape wraith right now
>>581351749This has happened to all my mains this year including Silver
>>581337368THIS is the most annoying thing about the game, finding any discussion on it means exposing yourself to people who larp about the game and probably don't even play it. It's really fucking bad on twitter, but they self expose all the time and get called out on it thankfully.
my patron wish: all silver plays step on a lego
>>581352728The item actually works now yesM1ggers got their own spellbreaker
my patron wish: silver steps on me
only supportsissies are allowed to buy egg now
crazy how paige is just spreading her shit on the zipline
>>581353304she a ho
If you pick Viscous you are a genuinely terrible person that enjoys making other people suffer, the kind of guy that enjoyed torturing small animals as a kid.
>>581353304She is super sheltered and naive, prime rape bait.
>>581354257GOO BALL :D
>>581354676>i can trace my lineage back like 200 years and thats something i will brag aboutholy mutt...
-t. insecure mystery meat
>current health damage abilities like shiv knife doesn't proc tankbusterIs this intended? I always thought it weird that an ability procs tankbuster if it says 165 even if it did only 100 after resistances
>>581355804Tankbuster only cares about the flat spirit damage number on the ability, hence why it says ignores spirit res
>>581355804been like this for a while
>>581350218Playing Deadlock Ranked.
Did the decay change even matterIt does pretty much the same thing but over 2 more seconds
>>581356365None of the changes matter
>>581356365People were using it for cheap poke damage so, yeah.
what does yoshi mean by content, chat?
>>581354257I made frens, hurray!
>>581356365Literally the only changes in the entire patch that mattered were slows actually doing something about movement faggotry and Silver getting a free phantom strike. Until movement is reigned in and all the bugs are removed related to it, the only thing that matters in the game is how to abuse movement bugs... and taking mid boss. Not a single other thing matters.
No way... no fr*aking way...
>>581356529do you even have a job
THE 50% WINRATE META WILL BE MAINTAINED!!very cool yoshi can I stop getting dogshit teammates now?
>>581353505>>581354676Lash would say this.
>>581353304She needs her naïve body to be impregnated.
>>581356614>67>Overwatch porn>DeadlockWhat the fuck is this screenshot
Why do some patch notes give specific numbers and others are changed by %
Its outhttps://youtu.be/ZYLYlKHMJvQ
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>>581356942ivy boobs????
Why isn't viper pick/ban in proplay?
>>581357474no sauce
>>581356646But I have 60% wr....
>>581333528i dont think valve funds any tournament in Counterstrike its completely grass roots
>>581356423This, veilwalker is fucking crap now but still will be bought
>>581357282Also ass
>No McGinnis nerfs>No Apollo nerfs>No Mo and krill nerfs>No meaningful Viscous cube or punch nerf>Warden and wraith nerfs are a slap on the wristSo is hero balance coming with the big update or...
>>581351749She's still sucks, people will catch on.
>>581358137it will only be bought on gankers that need invis to be better at getting picks, like bebop, holliday, paradox, instead of literally any random hero
it's genuinely fucking hilarious how asshurt people in standard get it's so fucking easy to get others uppset
>>581358397Ehm, no they buy shadow weave
>>581358397I would bet 100 dollars that eventually everyone starts buying it again. The numbers were already crap afrer first big nerf and a few months later everyone forgot
What is valves vision for how farm is distributed among the players? It seems they really dont want a traditional pos 1-5 Farm priority strucutre. I do feel though rn farming is not really a skill you need to master. THe game basically guarantees soul parity and its als othe reason we have this horrible comeback meta. You can stomp the game for 20 mins but the enemy team can hang on because of walker resistances and comeback souls, win 1 teamfight at 30min, get mid and just win the game. So frustrating.
I hate haze so fucking much, M1 is cancer in general but her especially, it genuinely makes no fucking sense for her to deal so much damage while building green and a little purple, i hate you yoshi
>>581359314Comebacks were removed last patch, keep up. Start winning lane
>>581357474Her movement requires her to be on the ground which is a big no-no in AoESloplock
>>581358273>McginnisGet knockdown >ApolloGey slowing hex>MoGet healbane>ViscousOkay fair
>>581359419>gun character>look inside, actually a spirit character>everything scales absurdly well with spirit and gun items are mostly bad so you can just build her with merc mag and spirit items to abuse how busted sleep dagger and invis are
Apollo downplayers still going at it
>>581357474They havent figured out the debuff reducer juggernaut tech yet.
>>581360283its not september 15 anymore nigga
>>581358273Yeah, the changes will be like this, as usual:>Increased Shiv's DoT by .0000001 spirit scaling>Made his alt-fire instantly kill anyone if you hit them with it>Reduced stamina to 2>Celeste: Now has Bebop's gun>Celeste: Increased HP per level by 50>Celeste: Now has 6 base stamina>Warden: Removed legs>Warden: Removed gun
>>581327229>earth spiritliterally doorman
Why does grey talon get a spammable ability with times 2 spirit scaling?
>>581360932Unc's still got it
>>581360932because its his only damage ability
>tfw haze got buffed>tfw people think haze is weak dogshit since she doesn't build for the le epic meme ult build or le epic meme curse build>tfw she's still strong as fuck provided you can headshot which i can>tfw i still win every match on haze without using eggit's just that easy
>>581360932indian magic
>>581360932Because its funny when he rushes mystic reverb and spirit burn.
>>581357474she's so ZZzzzzzz
glhf
>>581325180What is her @I need to give her my money
wallbreaker victor back with divine kevlar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will people finally start buying Chadow Weave?
>>581327920>>581328925There should be a punishment for trying to parry but missing, maybe it could stop stamina regen for a bit or slow you for a second. Or maybe getting parried could do something like removing part of your resistances and making you unable to dash/use movement abilities instead of a 3 second stun and 25% extra damage taken which is just guranteed death for anyone squishy.
Gosh, I really love raping my enemies in the early game to just complete lose advantage in the mid-late game because my teammates would rather farm than rake any objectives and midboss
>>581363607>cheats
I love it when someone talks shit and I bite back, their go to response is "You're bad" "You're shit" like that's what their fragile ego defaults to. Then the scoreboard shows I have the highest contribution to the game.
>>581363628I don't think the objectives or midboss need to be raked, bro
>>581363607Is stalker even that good? I feel like I'd rather have BRS instead of it most times or the T2 version of crippling headshot
>>581360254If knockdown is a problem for a McG, then they're just a bad McG player
>>581364432but it does more damage the less health they have bwo
>>581363628if the lanes are pushed and the enemy team is missing I ain't pushing shit bruh
>>581364596NTA, but it genuinely feels hero dependent and even map dependent. no point in the footstep passive if you have no map control. being able to stick to people is nice, but there are other options
>people on my hellish MMR didn't do rift for jack shit anyway so nothing changed with the update
Can someone explain to me like a retard why Mirage's winrate is the 2nd worse in the game when his kit is so much better than Venator's?
>>581366820entire 1st world hates indians/pakis so not many try to get good at him
>>581366820People try to play him as a hard carry when that doesn't work.He has to tempo a match hard and keep the pressure up, not farm sidelines all game.
>>581366983Not everyone is American and knows he is actually Persian though.
>>581366820BANG BANG BANGFOR THE DJIIIIIINN!BANG BANG BANGRAAAAAH!>Stays right up in your face and one shots your HP for doing the exact same thing everyone else does.
>>581366820Bro his kit is fucking awful to play
>>581363607based fellow SW enjoyer
>another episdoe of the cracker trying to "hype up" the team even though we're down 50k soulssybau faggot
>>581368308your team was probably 50k behind because it had a nigger in it
So IF they release new heroes how is anyone expected to unlock them in ranked? I would get the new heroes like one out of 3 games even WITH the priority token. So it was really like 1/10 games. That means I would need 150 games to unlock ONE character for ranked if I won EVERY SINGLE GAME.
>>581369050Eventually they'll stop being retards and just implement a pick ban phase
I might sound retarded, but how do you deal with aiming when there's bajillion particle effects and AOE slop in rift or midbossRecently started to play a m1 hero and holy shit this is insane to track accurately when you have a ivy flying around, lash. celeste etc.
Genuinely confused on the egg changes
>>581369554aiming in deadlock is hilariously easy compared to cs2 and overwatch
>Login>Wait 8 minutes for the game>Wait 2 minutes for someone not to connect>Wait 8 minutes for the match again>Lose a 50 minute game>Decide to play another game to "not end on the loss">Lose another 50 minute game>Log off>Repeat this in 2 days
>>581369924Just adding the unpopped egg souls to the team's net worth would have been enough to fix the comeback rift abuse issue. But they straight up made it a throw item.
>>581370152I get in either immediately or up to 2-3 mins at worst in first world high IQ regions (I myself am the high IQ, not the other players)
I feel like the player base is too addicted to defending walkers at the opportunity cost of better things.Pushing out lanes in general seems to be far too focused on when you can get mid boss, for example.
Your community sir, enjoy
>>581370783NEW HERO LEAK?
https://x.com/IntelDeadlock/status/2100650294422143297Anti-movement cucks, your response?
>>581370442It’s really weird, egg already wasn’t that great unless you knew how to play around it.If anything I assumed it would’ve gotten a buff to stop it from being a beginners trap
>>581370783kek based.
>>581370973DELETE THIS
>>581370783I'm normal, what does this mean?
>>581370152Why are you in low priority
This nigga is posting on 4chan talmbout some "im normal"
>>581371478Futa energy design
>>581371346its a popular streamer that dressed up as mina and like most streamers they have a parasocial underage viewerbase that is obsessive to the 10th degree
>>581371518I am in Brick
>>581371629Is that why the Mina's face looks like a biological male?
Does Venators splitshot ult have the same damage for each extra bolt?
>>581371887>does minas face look like a man because its trying to look like this man who tried to look like minaidk you tell me sherlock
>>581371478cant find this arousing even though i like bimbos because its just a photoshopped billy
>if you're behind souls and farming camps the bonus souls go to your two lowest players nowlol they added communism to deadlock
new melee hero in patch doko
>>581372334what are you even talking about schizo
>>581372434They already nerfed parrying and buffed lifestrike
>>581372830BONUS SOULS FROM BEING BEHIND GO TO YOUR LOWEST PLAYERS NOW INSTEAD OF JUST TO YOU SO YOU CANT FARM AS A CARRY
>>581372845sex. now
>>581373059it's comeback souls you retard
>>581372286for me it's the lips like i just can't seem to get behind them when they're that goddamn big
>>581372845do these people literally have no shamelike what motivates them
>>581373450not being insecure basement dwelling faggots i suppose
>>581369265That wouldnt work either. It's much more complicated than 2d mobas you need a significant amount of reps to play your hero correctly. The reduced one tricks that grief every time they dont get their hero is a boon of the system. And being able to play what you want is really nice instead of fighting of roles and picks like most mobas. They would need to implement role queue for draft and for what? It would be shit. That is not a solution.
>>581372948how about a melee item that steals gravity doe
ive found a large population of the deadlock community being obssesed with melee even though it's one of the least complex skills in the game and requires little to no micro or macro ability. what causes this?
>>581367176tempo?I swear this community is just making up random words for terms. What's next, are we gonna start calling mid-boss "Scrimblo" or pushing obectives "waxing the knob"?
>>581374102I like teh werk wit mah hands ehehe
>>581374132We fuck Scrimblos here sir
>>581374102Punching someone is fun
>>581374132
>>581374132>gen a zigger calling something "compy"mobas should only be allowed to be played by 30+ people
>>581374132Tempo has been a term in game since before you were born
>>581374102I want a boxer character but idk how they’d do his gun
>>581372845>fat venator>skinny viscous>mo fucking krill>1 black infernus 3 white infernus>BASED warden sieg hieling>submissive & breedable vinnot bad
>>581374571shadow boxing bro. shoots out fist projectiles.
>>581374930That's pretty clever. Maybe some kind of ghost boxer that died in the ring.
lady giest should have an ability where she forces you to smell her undergarments (odor scales with spirit power)
Movement schizosYour response?
>>581374571Lash literally had a boxing glove gun
>>581374571in rivals iron fist just punches pepole
>>581375116This looks actually accessible unlike all the other bug abuse
>>581374930>shakes his fists and rolls his shoulders to reload>spiltshot makes it look like a anime punch rush>slowest and lowest range shots, big damageI can see it
>>581375367well you don't have to worry about being brutalized for meleeing a trooper in rivals
>>581375587you dont have to worry about anything in rivals because nothing ever happens
>>581375138Yeah but having two characters with the same gun design is gay
>>581375553>slowestI personally picture it as a rapid fire type, shadow boxing is a speed-technique exercise irl
new char concept - gashlash (trans)
>>581375824Shadow Boxing would make a cool ability name actually, just a after image of the Boxer that works like a stationary turret for 1 second but punches 4x as fast or maybe a literal racing game style ghost of the player that copied everything you do but delayed, like DMC5 Vergils Doppleganger
>>581375837>gash's ult allows him to jump really high, tie a rope around his neck and plummet to his death, his corpse slamming into enemies damaging them. What did Yoshi mean by this?
>>581376252melee illusionist sounds fun
>>581375116useful literally nowhere
>>581376527Brick chan...
>>581376252I can actually see the DMC5 Doppleganger thing working with how accurate Replays are
>>581360826I hate literally every single Spirit character in Dota except for Storm. Holy fuck are Ember and Void and Earth obnoxious as fuck.
>>581376527this in side lane vents allows you to get to the roof instantly
>>581366820He's not actually fun to play at all so most people get bored with him, pros pick him because he's overpowered as fuck and they don't care about having fun.
>>581372845These are the guys throwing your games
>metro hops on haze because warden got nerfedso this... is the face of deadlock....
>>581375116While that is bug abuse, that at least isn't incredibly esoteric to perform. Still should be removed.
deadlock, the only game in the world where you can tell the match is already over within 10 minutes by player quality and how the lanes go but you're forced to sit it out in a cuck chair for another 50 minutesgame will never make it big if yoshi/hotpoo don't fix this
>>581377569>play hero that requires minimal skill instead of 0 skill>loselol
>>581372845>warden in the back heilingLmao
>>581377740that defeatist attitude is why no one likes or respects you, faggot
>>581377740please kys
>>581377740>the only game in the world where *describes every single MOBA on the market*
>>581372845back in the day i could post this on r/cringepics and get 5k karma and sell my reddit account to a corpo for 20 dollars but these days the woke left thinks dressing up as fairy tail characters is normal and celebrates it thanks liberals
>>581377740unironically this game would be more enjoyable and less toxic if games went by fasterthe thing that gets everyone is how long matches take and how volatile matches get after 35 min. you can literally lose a 45 min match off one mistake that may not even be your own its no wonder everyone wants to kill each other by the end of the game
>>581377569How do you do this bad on one of the easiest characters in the game
>>581377740Having a faggot like you on the team means it's over at minute 10, yes. Only way to fix this is banning faggots like you.
>>581377569>shamelessly grinds every meta hyper-farm M1 hard carry and still fails to reach eternushe'll probably grind to it eventually but his insistence of his skill level is mind-boggling
>>581378296dota turbo proved that making these matches faster makes it even more toxic in practice
>>581377740Honestly yeahAll the "comeback mechanics" just serve to prolong the sufferingIf you are -20% in souls the game should be effectively over unless you can pull off like a Dynamo mid boss steal and kill everyone or something.
Great now I can't get silver anymore
>>581377957>>581378252>>581378416nta but niggers like you should kill themselvesjust add ff buttonwho the fuck wants to sit through 40-50 minutes of a game that is lost at minute 15>b-but that 0-15 Seven is gonna make comebackno he fucking won't, fuck off
>>581378789>who the fuck wants to sit through 40-50 minutes of a game that is lost at minute 15dont play a moba then you dumb nigger. you know what you get when playing this genre
>>581377861>>581378348>>581378419He plays every character like pre nerf merc mag warden he is gonna get shit on this patch
this is what it should look like when i pause and look up grave's skirt on the zipline you stupid WOKE VALVE DEVS
>>581378789You WILL play every game out.
>>581378789You should play league of legends
>>581378917Graves doesnt wear stockings, moron
>>581378789the only chars that can make a comeback late game after feeding i've seen are abrams/billy because they're so overtuned
>>581378789>0/15 seven Now show his assist
>>581379112yes, graves wears pantyhose which is what is depicted in the image
Talons 1 should be able to headshot like paradox carbine
In the next patch, Warden's bullet fire rate will be reduced to 1 bullet per second.
>>581379804still playing warden
>dude, you should totally play the full game with these teammates>it's like, they are gonna turn this game around any second now or something bro>just 10 more minutes bro
>>581378789i dont have people going 0-15 in my games, because im not a window licking dribbler retard, so sounds like a personal problemif you want league features go play league you colossal faggot
>>581378917Graves is 4 years old you fiend
>>581379986Now show your stats
>>581374102It's a flex
>>581377132it should work off the bat, the training room has a mimic to help test things.
>>581375553
>>581378789We have games for defeatist niggers where you can give up right after lane, just go play those.
>>581380097I was just running it down after minute 20 once I saw the state of the team and I was playing support anywayNow, please tell me that we had I chance this game, I wanna hear how I was supposed to win this
>>581380375Always forget about that.Doppleganger hero when?
>>581380607Stop downplaying Apollo for starters
>>581380530Goddamn it the more posts I see the more I’m convinced a Boxer would be a cool ass character
>>581380607>running it downExactlyLow prio subhumans get the teams they deserve.
>>581374930
>>581378917>panties OVER the 'hoseretarded image.
>anon proves he's the exact retard ruining his gamespriceless
>>581380834>Low prioNever been in low prio lmao
>>581380907you can see the gusset line over the panties retard, they're under
>>581363607I might buy it now that they nerfed Veil Walker but feels like I'll miss the constant heals while walking around the map.
>>581380607>this team composition>lossDon't believe it.
why does Stalker do like 6 things at once?
>>581375824True but that might look a little goofy in game especially since it has to be something like a straight jab, unless he does a full combo with each punch having a different projectile but that might be a mess hitbox wise, hate to lose a kill shot since the Hook ‘bullet’ clipped a wall & blinked out of existence
>>581372845unironically like the drifter fit
>>581363607it's an item literally only drifter, yamato and maybe abrams can fully take advantage of
is there literally any circumstance you should use egg now? even at -10% 90% of people were saying it was a noob trap you should never use and you would auto-lose lane by buying it. Now it's -15%.All they had to do was make it add to your total souls value and it would be fixed.
>>581377957>>581378252>>581378416>>581378867>>581380046>>581380580sensitive topic lmao i can see why everyone makes fun of dotards
>>581381601NoWell, you can grief your team with it.
>>581372845>Krill is grown ass man getting a piggy back rideSoul
>>581381483imo, the way the hero moves around would be very different from others. he'd have to lead with his feet like actual boxers rather than just walk around normally. easier way out is to just give a gun :D
Lash should be a boxer character instead of a gay jump around character
here cums...........the lash.........
Don't you get it? I'm cumming with you
Anyone else immune to getting mad at this and any video game for that matter? When I was younger, I did get mad at Dota 2 quite a lot and yelled at my teammates. Now, If I have bad teammates, so be it, that is the hand that is dealt to me. Yelling at them, calling them shit, etc, just makes you look like a bad human being. I will hope for better teammates next game.
>>581381745>he'd have to lead with his feet like actual boxersSomething about that scratches a itch in my brain, just imagining his dash animations as a really nice dodge
>>581380607so you wont show your stats? got it
>>581382314turn off voice chat and enemy chat and you become untiltable
>>581381601I thought egg would get a buff honestly not made completely fucking worthless
Is the sound mixing fucked or does almost everyone I play with have an awful mic because I barely hear people when they talk
>>581382364lmao, okay, tell me how terrible I was and other retards were actually close to winning the game
yawn haze is meta again fucking great fun
>>581382314Weirdly enough I get upset when my teammate gets pissy, bro I want to win too but we’re 3 minutes in, you solo dived into their Guardian and got parried why is your lane partner in the wrong and why do I need to hear about it for the next 20 minutes
>>581382820>seething paige tranny with fake damage numbers crying and copingit never fails
>>581382820>Lower kda participation than "useless" BebopExtreme shitter
>>581378867>>581379029>>581380046>>581380580I like how you anons are quick to lash out, but no one can in good faith say this game has much agency if you're given a team with no late scalers + a lost lane.That's outright a checkmate. The only times I've seen this result in a comeback are>literal crashes or dc's on the enemy team>deeply unbalanced matchmaking where the haze is piloted by a Seeker player, while your team are Oracle -> Phantom
>>581294592i think if you play paradox you should be hanged from a tree. i actully want this bitch removed from the game. i dunno what retarded redditor youtuber made all the retarded speds try out this retarded 'hype moment and aura' build i keep seeing these dipshits use but im tired of them always being on my team.
>>581382820>paigedo u wear a diapey
If I get stomped in lane I quitTakes the burden off my teammates, I think
"Yeah I like touching kids, how can you tell I was a Kelvin player?"
>>581383191This isn't any buildThis is neither Carbine or Bomb, just somebody with no idea what they're doing
>>581382314I still get mad when my teammate starts whining and arguing with me or the others. I still need to work on that.
>>581383413>just somebody with no idea what they're doingjust described every paradox player on my team ever. how'd ya do it?
>>581383357>''IN HERE I AM KING''
>>581383463GRAVES IS THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE GAMEDELETE THISSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>581383463>shiv cancer patchim out
>>581382521Yeah the mic level is terrible, I had to put all other sound levels at 50% and mic volume at 100% to hear people. I've complained on the bug fix forum about this but they've never fixed it. Every other online game I've played online lets you hear players at a reasonable volume on default settings.
>>581383463>People thought this was a Shiv nerf patch
>>581383463Lash is so funGod I wish I wasn’t ass at playing Lash
>>581383463Where is S+++ilver?
>>581383618>>581383685
>>581382521idk for anyone else but my mic just doesnt work well on steam games for whatever reason. ive spent hours in the settings trying things and my voice just comes out super quiet. no other program/game outside of steam does this
>>581383636I guess I'll do that, I thought something was messed up
>>581383167we literally just got out of comeback city meta where no game was lost because of the overtuned comeback mechanics, if you couldn't figure out that after 10 mins of a bad lane you could just direct your team to rift or second rift and snowball from there then you were a reason you lost so much
I just want to unlock Mina in comp but Standard is the shittiest gamemode out of any game ever
>>581383685>>581383618a bunch of items shiv builds got nerfed and his only changes were knife (kind of a nerf) and m2 does more damage (who gives a shit lol)its the top 1% of ranked, shivgawds are just that good at the game
>>581384005Enough downplaying.
is this the perfect shiv build?
Should I bother playing ranked again or is it still a shithole?
>>581296674hes pink :D
>>581384176worse than ever. 16% wr elo terrorism everywhere
>>581378789I was with you until you started blaming KDA. I've won with 27 deaths on drifter before. Surrender should only be allowed if the valve algorithm determines your win probability and it should be hidden in the menu so you have to look for it when it appears.
welp back to Holliday until every fucking asshole moves off Silver and crawls to haze or shiv or whoever is meta this patch
>>581384176Playing ranked in any game is like willingly being subjected to torture man do you even have to ask
>>581383953>we literally just got out of comeback city meta "comeback meta" = extremely biased towards late scalers, ensuring they get their full build. That's not a counter argument to anything I've said.
>>581384070absolute garbage actually!>no unstoppable or eshift>spirit lifesteal>casual duration extender and no superior upgrade for some reason>no resists or shields>no debuff resistance>no dispel
>>581383463>my main is nowhere in this imagehonest-chads, where we at?
>>581383191>those itemswhat in the fuck?
>>581384535Uuuh anon he has dispel
>>581383463>Lash in SNOOOOO now I won't be able to get him consistently anymore
>>581383463Bit surprised Ivy is so high up on this list
Shiv should never, ever be s+ and the game is in a terrible state when he is.
>shiv niggers are trying to downplay spirit lifesteal/infuser shiv
>>581385119this but most the roster
>>581384576People keep telling me Doorman isn’t honest though
>>581383463>billy nowhere to be seenhuh I thought he was the new S+++ hero guess that was just more lies from the usual suspects
YO WHERE MY TEAM AT
change lash's gun to a close range shotgun like calico/drifter so you wont need to constantly nerf and rebalance how his gun works from 40m in the air
>>581385581Hmm... nyo :3c
Lash should be a melee character. Remove his gun and buff his melee. I want Lash players to be parried eight times every match like Billy players
>>581385581It’d suit him actually, make more sense than the burst gun, Lash seems like the type to own a shotgun
>50% winrate on Arch Mother>62% winrate on Hidden King
>>581385581Then how would pro niggers be able to stat farm on lash?
>>581383463'vy on the 'lock
>GT bird warp stone bug still not fixedSo is it intended or what??
shiv derrangement syndrome aside, explain how shit went up the tier list without actually getting any buffs
>>581386075what bug?
>>581386075Grandma Coco needs to go to the drugstore for her prescription and can’t afford a cab please understand
>>581386075Nothing on this faggot hero ever gets fixed
>>581386181meta nerfs favored him, the decay changes probably helped too.
>>581386181desu every time I've seen a Shiv these past 3 patches he has the on fire portrait. I have no idea how he doesn't have a 55% winrate.>shiv derangement syndromeIf he gets a lead he's genuinely fucking annoying alongside makrill. You always have to prioritize him last because he takes too damn long to kill and chase.
>>581386185You can teleport pretty easily across the map using his bird and a warp stone
>>581386496a few good characters being made worse (mostly by nerfing items shiv also buys) and decay lasting longer doesn't make you jump from C to S+ tier
>>581386572>steals 3 kills with my execute so I automatically get the fire portrait unless my whole team is losingYER DEAD
>>581386692paradox mains are all fat titted thick thighed women?
>>581386797he was probably getting stat checked by the merc + overflow combo doe
>>581386075unironically GT is probably being changed anyway with the update sot heir just saying fuck it
>>581386181>without actually getting any buffs>without actually getting any buffs>without actually getting any buffs>without actually getting any buffswhy the fuck do you retards keep parroting this shit? his knives do massive fucking damage now
>>581386916shiv was also buying merc/overflow because they dumpstered his spirit scaling ages ago while making rage building very easy and improving his bloodletting and slowly buffing his gun with stuff like the fixed spread, so nerfing it nerfs his only good build
>>581386692perfect cosplay for troons dont have to show the face
>>581384005>Shiv players>Good at the game>Plays the only character besides Celeste to have as many crutches as possible
>>581386692is cosplay the most attention seeking thing you can do as a "fan" of something?
>>581387124max boons shiv with boundless and enough purples to completely max out shop bonuses throwing a knife against max boons 4.8k green investment player with full health is doing only like 140 extra damage on that knife throwits current HP, not max hp aka it's extremely bad. as you throw more knives you literally do less and less bonus damage because the actual dot is working against the extra damage which starts low and scales horribly. it doesn't even build you that much extra rage because of how shivs rage interacts with spirit damage, hitting two players with a bounce was getting you more. AND it cant even do tankbuster not that you could even hit that hard without 60k souls
>>581387537Its only bad when its ewhore tier bad cosplay
>>581387571>it doesn't even build you that much extra rage because of how shivs rage interacts with spirit damage, hitting two players with a bounce was getting you more.if the knives are bouncing you are already at max rage thoughbeit?
>>581387695yeah I kinda fucked up that sentence but I mean if the knives are on two people thats two people who have to dispell so you get more refreshes ticking
shiv players are retardedly hard to kill. Why do they have infinite dashes and dash abilities? It takes an entire minute to get them close to death and then they just escape and you can't catch them. And if you get to 1/3rd of your health during that fight you instantly die
>>581385007Huh? You do realize Ivy has literally never fallen below 50% winrate for all of Deadlock's existence, right? She has basically only gotten buffs and slight changes.
>>581359314>game guarantees soul parityThis nigga playing an entirely different game or something
>>581387537is attention seeking bad if its drawing attention to something that looks this nice/has this much work put in?i am glad this caught my attention because its good and i like looking at it, basically what >>581387659 said
>>581387952Ivy quietly runs this game. No one notices the work she does.
>>581387952>>581388141
where do you find your stats page from statlocker that shows you on the curve for kills/ deaths/ assists etc
lash winrate is because of the spirit damage buff and counterspell nerfed. you cannot do dash/ability dash into counterspell, so lash can catch them in bad positions even with counterspell
>>581387952No I didn’t know that I almost never look up winrates for a character, just know them by how influential they are in a match and that’s usually blurred by their carry doing everything unless their support is really stealing the spotlight by being a general menace that turns the tide
i'm convinced people memoryholed anything and everything graves related even at the highest ranks because people on my team have no fucking clue how to play against her anymore and all she needs to do is perma push a lane and one retard or even more on your team are forced to babysit said lane and your retarded teammates don't know how to avoid the fucking wall either
>>581388384>He balances based on vibes
>>581386181The nerfs to movement didn't affect his retarded shotgun gimmick and he is still basically the prototype for Celeste (tanky, does too much damage, infinite sustain, too much mobility) so he's just as cancer as she is.
>>581387952she has fallen below 50% WR before, but i think that after her ult rework it was never below 48% so it's still kinda impressive
>>581388534fuck does that mean
>>581388662Must have been when I was taking a break from the game, but I have never seen her below 50%.
1 WEEK UNTIL THE BIG PATCH THAT CHANGES EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVERYTHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
>>581389434this but genuinely unironically
>mina didnt see a single changedamn they hate her
>>581306375i agree with this tier list except silver, move her down to blank tier
>Oracle 6>Get put into Phantom lobby>All the phantom players play like absolute faggot retardsYoshi needs to be raped by a Seattle fent zombie stat. This game is so ass.>>581389434Wrong. It's going to suck.
>>581390403Now you understand simply by having Platinum aim in Overwatch you climb to Phantom guaranteed. Don't even need to know what the urn does.
retarded fucking lane partner went afk three timesI just let them have guardian and walkerfuck this game
>>581390403fent zombies are eepy little guys like rem they dont attack people
>open game>standard is still suicide-inducing>close gameDeadlock will be DoA at release if they keep this system in as-is.
>>581384517so you mean to tell me you had many games where you had no good late game heroes in ur team and full late scale comp in enemy team? I dont believe that. I very rarely feel like a game is lost at 15. Inroducing FF will just increase people whining and spamming ff when they die 3 times in lane and then the whole game will proceed to fight abt wether to ff or not
>>581391129>opens moba>general moba experience
>>581391129>try to play game>lose at hero draft>stop playing gameI haven't touched this shit in months because the balance is decided entirely by which team gets Wraith/Warden/Celeste/Lash/Rem.
>Graves/Haze/Holliday on my team>already know we lost
>>581390403I'm convinced Yoshit made this shield system to filter out the people who spam games all day long to high ELO lobbies so we don't get a repeat of noobs getting matched against people with 100+hrs like for OGNB when the content update drops.
>>581392083>>581392083>>581392083
>>581391936thats a free win if im on any of those heroes thoughever
>>581391173>so you mean to tell me you had many games where you had no good late game heroes in ur team and full late scale comp in enemy team? I dont believe that. yes>Inroducing FF will just increase people whining and spamming ff when they die 3 times in laneThen make the game less draft focused and design opportunities for someone to close the game early. Failing that, forfeit votes is the objectively superior choice.One or the other. You don't get to cosplay as a high brow strategy game when strategy is not a priority.
HAZE IS FUCKING OP WTF????nerf this bitch immediately
>>581359314POs 1-5 is cringe and they are right to fight it
