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Gut celeste more

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/698776157349216434

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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deadlock brought to you by sweetbaby inc
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>>581392274
what does your post's content (webm and text) have to do with deadlock?
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>>581392274
secret product and a trench lady designed paige
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>silver gets literal crumbs for buff when she's the worst hero in the game
>still the worst hero in the game
huh
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>>581392378
sweetbaby inc, the character design lead of deadlock, is a company run by HR people like in the webm
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>>581392539
proof?
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>>581392619
>>581392505
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>>581392274
I like flat tits and don’t see them as a negative
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>>581392694
>>581392619
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And suddenly Celeste disappears from the game.
Metaslaves be slavin'.
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>>581392505
OH NO NO NONO LOOK AT HER HAIRLINE


btw old geist was better
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What if valve releases a visual novel where Pocket comes out trans and converts from non-binary to a man
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>>581393418
Their devs don’t give a shit about that theyre WAY too nerdy and autistic
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>>581392694
>>581392783
>>581392619
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>>581392774
I’m guessing she probably doesn’t see them as a negative either

she might not even see anything negative about herself and it’s entirely possible that she’s a teensy weensy bit self absorbed
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>>581392274
>genZ boss
Man I wish I was female so I could have a job.
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>>581394116
chink bros......... what happened???
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>>581393848
if they didnt care then whyd they add his tranny nonsense to begin with
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>>581392505
low key I like the bald black person with glasses trope
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>"You guys are one trick shitters who don't know how the game works"
>Plays exclusively M1s
I'm talking about Metro btw
Not vague posting
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>>581394854
How is he coping now that his m1 carrys were nerfed into the ground
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>>581394585
He's a Ch*gger, do not disrespect the Slanteyed Volk by calling him a CHINK.
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>>581394772
well of course you do you're "low key" a bald black person yourself
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>>581394672
They didn’t mean to, they wanted to somewhat clever but got fucked over by people online being retarded and can’t run it back without a substantial PR nightmare crusade to waged against them
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>>581394672
SBI but since they're gone they'll probably just retcon it, same thing with calicos model when she gets a redesign
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>>581394998
bro hates Morpheus
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>>581394990
there is no excuse, i will reflect on this, sensei.
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>>581392274
>sweetbaby inc
Complaining about this shows you're still cursed by /v/brain.
You'll grow out of it one day.
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>>581392274
>>581394517
This is their job thats too important to take time off to have children btw.
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>>581394672
they made an injoke reference to Puck and people took it too serious so now it has to stay to prevent a PR nightmare.
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>Apollo on enemy team
Oh ok I will rush slowing hex
>still can’t duel him because he can just gain all his health back after the 3.5 seconds are up
Oh ok I will buy healbane
>He can hold his assrape mosquito ability until it’s over and half the time it barely helps since his lifesteal is 75% fucking percent + more with items
Ok fine I will ignore him and hopefully my team doesn’t feed and I can get a lead on him
>Even if this happens he can still cancel ults and then back out of a fight at lightspeed
Is there something I’m missing here, why is was this fucking character untouched in the latest patch.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DdYvH-YOBfU/?hl=en
movement trannies win yet again
hahahahahahah
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>>581395248
if you have healbane + slowing hex and still losing you're getting stat checked and should avoid the duel. he doesn't get stronger as the match drags on
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>>581395248
The problem is you didnt buy silence wave. Slowing hex is only useful if you're ganking.
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>>581394672
They didn’t mean to, the fact there’s been some voicelines straight up calling Pocket a he shows that but the modern internet is retarded, Valve doesn’t want to deal with that bullshit (as any reasonable person would)
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>>581395376
Yoshi going to rape and kill every movement tranny. And not in that order.
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>>581395248
just play victor and stand next to everyone til they die simple as
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>>581395248
Spirit burn and slowing hex is all you need to have a viable game vs apollo. You can try focus lens too for late game if he doesnt have dispel so he cant even riposte.
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>>581394672
No one is actually replying with the real reason which is that he was a robot (synth) in the previous iteration of the game. By the time he was made a human it was too late to change it without angering the horde. As others have mentioned, he is likely referred to as a "he" internally since both Celeste and Vyper had lines that called him a he.
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HAZE IS FUCKING OP WTF???
nerf this bitch immediately
this is awful
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>>581395661
eh, this is cope. Robots were gendered in Neon Prime. And they also had a canon yuri ship, so it's not a stretch to say Pocket/Synth was nonbinary.
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>>581395661
>he was a robot (synth) in the previous iteration of the game.
We were robbed of Gosling Kino
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Played 1 (one) single game and I don't wanna play anymore today. I do not want to build cc counters just to be able to play the game.
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victor needs buffs so fucking bad
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>>581396432
Because you can't feed your ass off early game?
Fuck off
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>>581395661
Everytime I look at the original game I’m visually assaulted and wonder how the fuck it ever got to that stage, really like the walkers being airdropped in and hope that maybe sometime in the future they do something similar, it’d be cool to see them walk into place while I’m zipling in
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>player is absolute dogshit when teammate
>get matched against them
>they suddenly have insane movement and know how to use their kit
Very funny, Netanyahu
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>>581396432
He's a weird spot where he's alright at high elo and hitler in shitlow so he can never be really touched
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>>581396432
56+ WR not good enough?
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Imagine being such a worthless subhuman that you play mcginnis
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>>581396932
What’s worse?
Normal game McGinnis or Brawl McGinnis
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>>581396432
imagine failing with the easiest, hardest scaling hero in the game
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fucking faggot bitch haze using cursed relic
remove this item from the game
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Forced 50 bros? Am i something like a god or something...? I think i broke the system
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>>581394517
KEK
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nerf haze into the ground
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>>581397597
That was some nice 4 button press you made there
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>>581394116
>>581394585
I'd love this weak pocket faggot to hold my balls while my BWC cums buckets in that thight ricebunny mina pussy. i'm a Christian btw
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>>581397419
we gewonned so hard this patch
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>>581397719
I'm not the Haze. I'm complaining about them
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>>581397419
What hero(s) nigga.
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>>581397597
>lets buff the assasin hero while removing all comeback mechanics whats the worse that could happen
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>>581397795
käk
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getting tired of absolutely dumpstering faggots in lane only for them to have almost the same net worth as me 10 minutes later
the comeback mechanics must be dealt with
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when they fall.........we rise
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why the fuck did they add soul socialism for the losing team?
the only way we're going to counter the enemy team is if we have at least one guy who is higher than them but now soul socialism equalizes you all to useless shitters
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>>581398131
This is because you are a retard who leaves lane and jerks off for 10 minutes while your opponent farms. If you want to maintain your lead you must take guardians and steal sinners/camps.
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>>581398340
The Baronness appreciates your donation! I will spend it wisely........*rushes cheat death*
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Am I just playing wrong or does billy do fucking nothing before 20 min?
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>>581398131
yeah totally 100%. This happens to me too. Oh you went 3/0 in lane and they’re some 0/3 shitter running around who should LITERALLY be nothing but rapemeat from this point? Too bad. He’s 2/3 now and has equal to your net worth. Enjoy your 55 minute fucking game.
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>>581398623
I have never seen a Billy do anything at any minute of the game
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>>581398340
>>581398436
Fuaking KEK. Prob an experiment they want data on, expect it to stay this way for a while.
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>>581398776
I'm pretty sure this one is joking but why do people actually think like this
if you're fucked for the rest of the game off a bad lane then what is the point of playing past 8 minutes? Because you'll be punished if you leave? It's slavery. That's not a fun game.
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>>581396432
Just buy extra stamina
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>>581398340
Presumably so 5 retards cant brawl while victor farms and then finally when victor joins a fight he gains all the comeback souls

Doing that makes 5 protect 1 strategy twice as effective by throwing everyone's networth allowing the game to slingshot to a free win off of one fight by feeding the carry
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>>581399668
>YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO CARRY IN A MOBA
lmfao joke game for troons
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>>581396432
He has a high winrate at literally every elo even eternus, the only problem with victor is that the average victor player has a 85 iq.
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>>581399957
statchecking is gay shit for unskilled retards
there is no finesse in avoiding the enemy all game
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>>581400073
44% at eternus retard
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>>581399957
nothing wrong with carrying but you arent going to be able to cheese the comeback system by throwing your team's networth under the boss then joining fights until you win and get double the souls you deserve.
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>>581400142
lol
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>>581400162
He just recently dropped to 49% after the recently update glue eater
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I feels like the more valve fucks with comeback mechanics the more complex they become and the game ends up worse for it
The gold bounty changes over the years in dota 2 made the game worse off than it was with old rules
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>>581400475
moving the goalposts how is 49% a "high" wr
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>>581400592
Uh oh the victor glue eater is mad he was caught lying "44% winrate"
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Victor has a 20% winrate you dumbasses. Check my wins and losses on Victor.
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Actually victor has a 12% winrate i just checked.
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>>581400554
Comeback mechanics are small fries compared to all the random timers where guardians are unkillable early game, walkers gain and lose random resistances based on people nearby and time, troopers get stronger and worth more as the game goes on. Hidden resistances on rift. Hidden speed and stats on urn carrier

It's literally like how league of legends balances certain lanes with hidden mechanics to prevent supports duo laning mid or top
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>>581400701
I was playing Celeste and the Victor on the other team was genuinely fucking mad I landed a kill. He then kept typing about how I win the game for free and the moment he managed to kill me he paused the game to commend by scrolling through match history.

These people were born in a lab. And yes, he was running Merc Magnum + Spirtual Overflow. And yes, he was afk farming the whole game.
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Give victors ult charges.
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SOCIALIST TROON DEADGOCK PLAYERS NOW HAVE TO SUBSIDZE THE 0/15 SEVEN ON THEIR TEAM JUST LIKE IN THEIR REAL LIFE LIBERAL SEATTLE FENTANYL SLUM

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

YOU VOTED FOR THIS
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>>581400592
I said "only recently because of the update" I bet you he will he back to 50% once people find a new build for him
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>look up graves skirt
>void
Still not fixed, huh?
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>>581401465
i used grok to show her panty :)
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WHEN THE FUCK IS LASH GETTING GUTTED
THESE CHANGES WERENT ENOUGH
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>>581401314
>using time frames when talking to Victor players like they can understand hypotheticals at
If you asked the average victor player "you are facing left but then you decide to turn right, what direction are you facing" they would not be able to answer the question.
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>>581401465
it's hotter when left to the imagination
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>>581401657
they nerfed gun and buffed stomp. so now he can just output gun lashes' damage in 1 second with an easy to aim aoe

enjoy :)
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>>581401657
spirit lash got buffed with the dash counterspell change
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>>581401859
i'm so glad spirit lash is back, lash having to aim to deal more damage was just wrong
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>>581401657
Dont worry lash actually has to hit one ability to delete your healthbar now so its balanced
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>>581395057
>They didn’t mean to
>>581395484
>They didn’t mean to
just like the trannies you make fun of, you have delusions not based in reality.
>>581395661
>No one is actually replying with the real reason which is that he was a robot (synth) in the previous iteration of the game
HOLY larp
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>>581402398
pretty sure it's a combination of Puck from dota 2 being agender, and valve writers being woke as shit
no sweet baby requried
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>>581401859
>so now he can just output gun lashes' damage in 1 second with an easy to aim aoe
at least then he's in my fucking range and not sitting 20 meters away, double IADing then 2ing out. at least he has to use a 2 for damage now.
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>>581402398
>HOLY larp
Are you retarded? He's literally still called Synth internally
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im THIS close to finding out the perfect shiv build
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>>581396591
It's what happens when you just throw everything in a blender and nothing gets chopped before hand. If you look at the vehicles in Neon Prime they look great, if you put everything together it looks terrible.

It's the reason why AI slop looks like shit, a bunch of trends with no clear identity. It's the reason why Overwatch looks serviceable, they cut a lot out of the premise to make it look coherent on launch (no aliens, no alternate history, reduction of hard magic).
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Start putting mystic reverb on shivs knives.
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>>581402595
game files have nothing to do with lore, you retarded faggot larper newnigger.
the files and neon prime say that Holliday and McGinnis are lesbian lovers.
is that canon now?
you can't pick and choose, retard.
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>>581402664
you will never make it above mystic with that shit
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Walkers should actually walk imo
I saw an old clip where they walked down the lane top their spots while the players were zipping in during pre-game, why can't we have that
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>>581402664
>perfect shiv build
>any gun items
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Mystic Reverb on Victor 3
thoughts?
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>>581403156
>whataboutism
What part of "they can't go back on that now without angering the horde" did you miss?
Also post your activation date on Steam if you want to go around calling others larpers
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>>581403208
95% chance that the walkers we have now are gone in two weeks
there's a huge AOE wave attack in the files that replaces the current stomp so they're going to be very different
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>>581403328
why not just buy mystic slow?
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>>581403346
>whataboutism
I LITERALLY used your shit against you and you say this retarded shit?
LMFAO KWAB, I accept your concession. not reading the rest of your dogshit larper newfag post.
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>>581403418
but it looked cool...
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>>581403531
>doesnt post activation date
Hello newfag
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>>581400475
read the text at the top of your screenshot dunce
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>>581399957
Unironically yes
Fuck your retard afk for 20 minutes characters
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>>581403512
For the lifesteal, not for the slow.
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>>581403654
ok so if you admit deadlock is a permafight slop game then rivals/ow are objectively better games than it
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>>581403346
nta, but your line of thinking is retarded.
Pocket's lore is clearly written for Deadlock and consistently refers to him as "they". In fact, no one had their Neon Prime lore in tact. Even Viscous' bio (still to this day) references the name of Deadlock's prealpha, Shadowline.

Additionaly, Fairfax as a faction did not exist in Neon Prime, further adding credence it was entirely written for Deadlock.
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>>581401218
Deadlock has always had socialism you fucking freak. The lane souls are automatically split so we dont have 0 cs support cucks. The rift souls are split evenly to the entire team.
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>>581403702
i got death threats in this general for daring to mention (pre-nerf)radiant regen on victor
now we're buying reverb on aura for double the souls for even less heals
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>>581395248
Apollo downplayers are just really good at downplaying
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>>581403754
>the pvp game requires you to fight people to win
>this is a bad thing
Are MOBAtards actually this retarded?
They cannot be this retarded
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>>581404023
the point of mobas is having characters that are good at different points of the game. if you want your brown teamfight slop stop playing mobas
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>>581403808
Just read my fucking post
What do you think I mean by angering the horde.
What do you think is gonna happen to the twitter mob if Valve has a "they" character for a lore reason that is then made into a "he" when the game changes from NP to DL. Like think for a second you fucking dumbfuck. Valve doesn't wanna deal with that.
I'm not saying, and I never said that he has his old lore, that's a retarded strawman and you should kill yourself. I said that he (for non culture war reasons) was a "they" in NP, and Valve didn't want to risk changing that to upset the loony troonies when they changed the setting to the Cursed Apple
Holy fuck reading comprehension is dead.
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>>581404104
hmm... nyo
every game genre should cater to my needs
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>>581404123
>LITERALLY didn't read the post
holy fuck these are the retards crying about "they" pocket
KWABBBBB
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>>581403808
>Pocket's lore is clearly written for Deadlock
hey chatgpt generate some lore for this tranny chink that aligns with sweetbaby inc's instructions
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>>581404272
You're welcome to post your activation date ;)
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Paige is built...
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As a Lash GAWD main. They shouldn't have even buffed his slam. Now he's S tier and is going to get raped hard by Yoshi and will be back to building gun.
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>>581404461
as a support, but sometimes as a spirit carry or even gun
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comeing back is now impossible we need surrender more than ever
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>>581404561
what if instead of relying on comeback mechanics you just didn't fall behind to begin with?
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>>581404561
but we saw multiples comebacks in DLNS last night and those are pros so they should make less mistakes on average???
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>>581404846
teach us your nigger black magic to make all your teammates do the same king!
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paradox is fun
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>>581404846
>bro just never pick a character with a weak early game or get put against 2 lane rapists
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>>581404846
>roster of 25 heros is now reduced to 10
great game you have there
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>>581405149
>>581405206
If you pick a weak early game character then you are stronger with less souls later in the game
Is this your first ever moba?
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>>581404104
>the point of mobas is having characters that are good at different points of the game.
Who finds this fun or interesting? That just sounds like a shit strategy game where victory is determined on draft and time stamp (which is typically less influenced by gameplay and more by meta). This is a terrible hill to die on.

>>581404123
The problem is you think Pocket's "they/them" came from Synth in Neon Prime. The thing is, robots in Neon Prime were explicitly gendered (Bebop, Tokamak), being a cyborg doesn't inherently have any gender implication, and you don't actually know what Synth was. And on top of that, Pocket's bio is very clearly written for Deadlock, rendering your whole line of thinking moot. The obvious answer is some writer at Valve just wanted him to be nonbinary.

So from where I'm standing, you're just some retarded culture warrior saying shit hoping it sticks. Go back to YouTube.
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>>581405295
no you arent because of the socialism
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>>581405090
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>>581405912
fat bitch
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>dude just upload your personal data to statlocker because we can't track every match for some reason :)
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>>581405351
Robots != Synths nigga.
>the lore is rewritten
Yes? Where did I state otherwise? Please save me the trouble of having to read this retarded argument AGAIN. I said they're afraid to change it now, IT being his pronouns, not his lore. Can you imagine the mass hysteria if they did? Even worse, could you IMAGINE the state of this already abysmal general? "VALVE REMOVES NON BINARY REPRESENTATION - GABE NEWELL HATES HOMOS AND FAGS"
>tokamak
>gendered
Not that I can remember or can see
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>>581405090
i like paradox but i'm always having horrible time playing her
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>>581405989
do your stats stay private if you don't log in to statlocker?
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>>581405351
>Who finds this fun or interesting?
Me

>That just sounds like a shit strategy game where victory is determined on draft and time stamp
>hurr if this element of strategy was introduced then every game would be determined by that and only that so its shit durrrrr

>And on top of that, Pocket's bio is very clearly written for Deadlock, rendering your whole line of thinking moot.
Other aspects of the neon prime hero were reused so why wouldn't they retain parts of the lore even if the paragraph was rewritten. In fact this is obviously the argument being made. Does the fact that Pocket is human also "render moot" any comparisons to synth you stupid faggot? Make your dishonest troll posts less wordy, it would save everyone some time
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>>581405351
>>the point of mobas is having characters that are good at different points of the game.
>Who finds this fun or interesting? That just sounds like a shit strategy game where victory is determined on draft and time stamp (which is typically less influenced by gameplay and more by meta).
Are you genuinely retarded?
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>>581406535
>>581406857
You are speaking to someone coming from Overwatch or Marvel Rivals. They fundamentally don't understand MOBAs.
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>>581406857
I accept your concession.
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Can you guys imagine the state of this general if the content update in a week or two's time is just a few map changes and maybe one new model.
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>>581405149
>my early game is weak, so i will buy sustain items and engage the enemy as little as possible
is it that hard?
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Why don't they just make farming ever so slightly less overpowered? Like, why not have a little extra cash be just that? a little extra? not uber unkillable raid boss that requires zero skill
>Hurr, YOU have to shut them down even though they're stronger than you at every stage of the game and will only get stronger from people trying to stop them
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The curse of doorman is not being able to use your doors as another character
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>three more months of this
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>>581407503
it's going to be over
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>>581406535
> if this element of strategy was introduced
You're already rewording your argument with a strawman. You've argued characters scaling at different points is the point of the genre. That's like arguing %damage bleed is the point of the genre. You're getting caught up in a largely arbitrary balancing decision and perceive it as a hook. It's genuinely bizarre.
>>581406857
Read the above.
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>haven't been to the forums in a while
>just got a bug so decide to head over to post it
>firefox pop-up offers to translate from Russian to English
wtf.
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>>581406535
>Other aspects of the neon prime hero were reused so why wouldn't they retain parts of the lore even if the paragraph was rewritten. In fact this is obviously the argument being made.
I mean, that's actually the point I made, illiterate anon. His lore was clearly rewritten for Deadlock, anything they kept from Neon Prime was intentional.
>stupid
>dishonest
>faggot
Wow already seething over borderline GPT generated character bios.
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>>581404561
>Everyone says the game has so much comeback where other mobas have none
>the comebacks in question are literally impossible for a losing team to even use because the winning team will bulldoze them for trying, steal said comeback and get yet another huge lead.
People refuse to admit that this is true no matter what
>>581404846
In addition to the above, there's also the fact that a Wraith can instantly get a 10k lead over your team and start mowing you down. Even if you actually stayed even with the rest of her team, it doesn't matter, you will never outpace her. You can focus your whole team on her all you want too, but her team will then mow you down in the rare chance she doesn't magically 1v6 you
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>>581397419
the average warden player
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>>581408408
The "top players" want to keep winning at character select. They advocate for economies that support their mains. They aren't interested in improving the game's strategic possibility space, hence Eternus feedback being retarded number shifts that don't actually improve the game meaningfully.

"comeback souls = bad", simply because they had to actually close a game given a lead. Rather than asking for strategic viability to end a game early, notice how they just beg for numerical shifts (back to extremely draft biased meta). These asshats ruin any playtest they're apart of. Why did streamers ever get access?
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>5k down after lane stage
>can't farm to come back anymore
uhhhhhhh ok?
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don't you guys agree that lash being overpowered is so much fun?
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>>581409331
its so much fun i uninstalled the game
i love vibe based balanced patches based on untested feedback from 3 streamers that poisoned public feedback, its so much fun!
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>>581409145
see >>581404940
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>>581407542
yeah have fun getting dove under guardian by apollo/rem 3 times and then having to sit through a 25 minute humiliation ritual because of it. i'd rather all 3 phases of the game be important rather than just one
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>>581405295
>If you pick a weak early game character then you are stronger
AHAHAHAHA
This dumb fuck really believes this.
Have you ever booted the game up even once? Have you ever tried a mode that isn't Street Brawl or Sandbox?

If it's bait, hats off to you.
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>paige surpassed seven and iamthecosmosman in winrate & pickrate
wat
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>>581409965
If your character is weak at all stages of the game then either you're doing something wrong or your character is bad, retard.
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dota and deadlock gameplay kits are dishonest and badly designed compared to league
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how have they still not fixed the game countdown skipping 5 and posting 6 twice. didn't we have this exact same bug 2 years ago?
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>>581410201
yeah we need more kino kits like League where half the cast is pro jailed
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Holliday tips?
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>>581409331
Look! Silver!
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>>581409868
why are you staying in the lane if your HP is low enough to get dived like that?
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>>581410201
the fact that this post was potentially made in earnest instead of bait saddens me
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>>581410531
you dont get it he really needs those 150 souls from those creeps
also he cant buy any regen/healing items or defensives he needs to L->R
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>>581410112
>If your character is weak at all stages of the game
strawman, never made this argument
Typically in Deadlock, late game carries dominate lane and scale infinitely. This puts them at a gross advantage compared to anyone else by default.

Also, for the sake of the argument lets follow that logic. The idea that weak laners automatically have strong late games is a tongue in cheek joke in the current meta. Yeah sure just wait until Silver gets 70k bro, just wait until Viscous gets Diviner's Kevlar after getting his whole kit nerfed (again).

Ignore win rates, ignore your personal experiences with the game, just listen to some dude on /v/.
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>>581397419
60 WR over that many games is crazy. Im gonna cope by claiming its all streetbrawl and standard games dilluted
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>>581411256
>reddit spacing
shant be reading
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What's your favorite shop item icong? For me, it's sharpshooter. Shout out to OG boundless
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>>581411389
>reddit spacing
>despite existing on this site prior to reddit existing
Trying too hard to fit in?
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>>581411520
brother you type like a redditor delux man
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Silver should have big tits.

Lady Geist should have bigger tits.

The upcoming female frontliner should have even bigger tits.
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last update fucked up my binds, im dashing right/left randomly it seems
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>>581410374
Being a huge faggot seems to help
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>>581411717
Geists should scale with her health
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>>581410531
youve clearly never laned against apollo/rem before. the second apollo gets all 3 abilities he can dive you at full health, take half, get healed by rem and dive you again to kill you once he's back off CD. if you don't have a strong enough lane to contest you either have to swap or just give the guardian and go run boxes
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>>581411675
>uses "redditor deluxe" as an insult
>calling the other reddit
bro you're like... chud deluxe man! you're cramping my cool!
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>>581411868
Geist should scale with health stolen

Either her siphon or her swap. But her self damage should be higher overall
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update leak
infernus remodel
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>>581412425
blingfernus
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>>581412031
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>>581412425
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Once proplayers figure out about viper its over.
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>>581412425
Shieeeet
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>>581412425
That buck looking zesty.
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>one of the top builds is fucking melee shiv
??? he doesn't have any stuns
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>>581413881
Top builds are bait. 50% of them are there because it's funny (and they are funny), 40% are made by Seeker players, 10% of them were viable back in 1993.

Read the character channel in the official server and you climb three sub divisions minimum. Like they're actually fucking bait.
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New crayon video dropped is he spitting?
https://youtu.be/6goyxZEd4wk
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>get stunned to death all game because the enemy team is mo and kril, lash, infernus, ivy, wraith, dynamo
>DURRRRRRRRR JUST SPEND 6k ON UNSTOPPABLE

what can you possibly do against this? and when I'm not stunned, the ground is on fire covered with shit and I'm disarmed while viscous rolls through it and dies, and lash has maximum aoe and just jumps into the air and grabs 2-3 people minimum and throws into a black hole

I can tolerate the macro game stat making people bullet sponges, but the whole 'you cant play the game for 10+ seconds at any given time' is fucking stupid.
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>>581414123
And the best part is 5/6 of them are strong laners.
These designers are incredible!!!
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>>581414123
Spend 6.4k on unstoppable
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>>581414123
eat your vegetables
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Rapid recharge should always be your first full item on shiv
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>>581398131
finally someone else says this. I had a game today where enemy lash literally went 11-0 and he gapped us by only 1-2k since comeback soul mechanics are so strong. Its absolutely stupid. You can dumpster enemies early game and it wont matter at all. 5 solokills in lane are meaningless. Why do boxes or denies even exist in the game? its not like they make a difference anyway?
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>>581414094
"pro" players and "streamers" downplaying lash is getting stale and boring
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>>581396134
She isn't you shitlow shitter.
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>>581414094
this dudes face is so fucking annoying
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>>581414123
I've been thinking about making a Victor build that takes advantage of the 50% debuff resist in his 2
Too bad Standard is so dogshit I cannot even try it out

>>581414624
Next week people will queue nothing but Haze when they realize she has built in debuff remover, bullet life steal, and fixation scaling with weapon damage
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We need an Indian Viscous mod
>He is brown instead of green
>He says launching poo when launching goo
>He fists you with poo
>His cube is a poop emoji
>He turns into a big ball of poo.
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>>581414123
same type of retard that refuses to buy bkb and wonders why he eats so many spells.
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One of these days you morons will realize it's not a matter of comeback mechanics but that late game scalers win games regardless of what happens prior. Even if you nullified all effective recovery souls to zero, games would take forever and the Vyper would continue to molest you.

In other words, one of these days DOTA fags will stop sucking off Icefrog and accept this is a badly designed game strategically.
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>>581414895
Why would you ever play Haze when you can play m1 ivy or m1 calico. Vyper, Wraith, Infernus, basically any m1 is better than her. Unironic skill issue.
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>>581414724
loud=funny
what are you an unc' or something?
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>>581415175
the fuck're you talking about? I didn't say anything about what he said, I didn't even open the video
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>>581414094
The devs balance the game around this guys opinion.
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>>581414987
Do it yourself
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>>581415340
why wouldn't you make minor changes that satisfy streamers and their audience while you work on actually developing the game?
if you don't like it just come back for 1.0 next year.
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>>581415374
Legit I might I got chat gpt 6 astra.
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Jeremy, The Maximum

Uses fists to shoot air hadoken, can charge M1 to lob a bigger attack.

Q: Demon Move
Jeremy becomes invincible and slides 10 feet foward. Enemy units he passes through get a stack of raging demon for a 15s.

W: Demon Arts - has charges
Jeremy does a sick kick flip, jumping into the air and small aoe damage and stacking raging demon. While backdashing, this move is a backflip. While double jumping, it becomes a super heavy upper cut. While dashing forward, it becomes a sweeping attack. While walljumping, jump farther and your next attack in 2s is an empowered fully charged M1

E: Master of All Techniques
Invulnerability parry, any non-ultimate abilities and debuffs are reflected during this window and granting 10 stacks of raging demon.

R: Raging Demon
Channels, Consumes all Raging demon debuffs from all units, Jeremy becomes invincible(he still gets in the way), then slides in a line and has parry reflecting heavy melee attacks and teleports around a target unit. .3s interval heavy melee per stack.
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>>581412259
>changed his cadence
kwab
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Valve should buy the license for marvel and make a new marvel rivals moba game instead cause this one sucks
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>>581415152
>gun calico
Bricklo shush.
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>>581414518
>Page at the top
Good to know it wasn't just me, a good Paige player feels like a pain to play against especially during the laning phase.
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>>581415669
wrong thread, or do you think deadlock would be magically better if it had the hulk instead of silver?
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>>581415708
>Tbird is now bricklo
Tell me you haven't tried it without telling me you haven't tried it.
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I regret not giving in to chinese spyware and playing marvel rivals instead
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Any tips for getting out of brick?
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>the "anti-tank" character is the tankiest tank that ever wanked
Why?
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>>581415152
>Trying to insinuate Haze is dogshit because other characters are overtuned
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>>581416156
Do not play support. Ignore most callouts, low rank players don't know enough about the game to play captain. Void Rift is entirely dependent on draft, it's based entirely on how much CC you have, and on top of that dumb fucks all the way to Oracle vastly overestimate its value. If you're team can't contest without dying, push something else and leave it alone.
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>>581416018
Retard.
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>>581416162
>5000 hp
>can grow wings when pressing spacebar and fly across the map
>3000 dps
Choose 2. This is Yoshi's vision.
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>>581416156
work on your objective damage.
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>>581415152
shes like a pub stomp machine though.
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>>581416018
>tankbuster buyer is now bricklo
yes?
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>lane is piss easy
>win
>we're up 3 kills to 1
>holiday goes to help out mid , i stay to farm and split push walker
>die once but manage to take the walker early
>cool let me see how our other lanes are doing and see who could swap so i can keep split pushing
>0-5, 1-4, 0-3, 0-6
>ask my team what the fuck are they doing
>enemies are all fed including the calico that did fuck all in our lane that's somehow now 8-0
>the rest of the game my other lanes continue to feed and we lose every team fight
>0-10 silver blames me for not face tanking all 6 of the fed as fuck enemies that they fed
are how people this fucking retarded man
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>solo queue on standard
>enemy team is a 3 stack who is always together + dedicated support slut
>my team 3 stack are 2 retards + 1 even more retarded new player
im having FUN guys
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why do i play deadlock
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>>581417292
post party code
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>>581416826
>at one point we prep for midboss steal
>and instead of waiting for rejuv to to drop and infern to ult for stun or viscous to punch them away these motherfuckers stagger in and die trying to fight while we're down a few
we need ff these guys do not deserve my time
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>>581416209
Yeah? That's kind of the point. What's next you going to complain about Graves?
>>581416581
I am ascendant 3 therefore smarter than you
>>581416789
So you're just expecting the enemy team to be bad and not buy metal skin.
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>>581417503
>metal skin
curse, also getting them to buy metal skin is a win.
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>>581417484
i should be clear they staggered in while the enemies were trying to kill midboss, completely blowing our cover
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>>581417459
why...
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>haze gets completely shut down by metal skin (just buy curse)
>but gun calico doesn't because... uhhh!!!!!
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>>581417754
I obviously want to have sex with you
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>>581417770
>I am ascendant 3 therefore smarter than you
clearly undeserved
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>>581414123
>DURRRR JUST BUY THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEM DURRR
uh, yeah retard that is in fact what you should do
you remind me of my buddy that plays slam lash who will incessantly complain about getting CC'd yet refuses to buy unstoppable until it's minute 35
you clearly know what the answer is. i get that it's not number-go-up but you're not doing any fucking damage while dead anyways
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>>581417608
Okay but you can use metal skin, curse, silence wave, knock down, disarming hex, silencer ect.. to stop haze. Literally half the item shop counters her and the counters to those counters are way more expensive for her to buy while also significantly lowering her dps. She is also the most squishy hero in the game, not even going to mention all the hero built in CC that just straight up cucks her too.
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>>581417770
>S(he) he thinks that calico only goes orange items in her m1 build
Rat rank is crazy.
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Most of the time I get to play Lash nowadays I just get an awful team a lot. Idk if I've lost the sauce but I just can't solo carry on him.
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>>581418515
oh let me guess, it's another
>stalker + melee items = gun build
meme
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should I dropp Radiant Regen? I play Geist and I wonder if it's still worth it? I think I might just build towards healing tempo or something instead
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is this the perfect mirage build?
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>>581418696
Nah you go splitshot lucky shot glass canon and vamp burst.
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>>581418375
than don't play her lmao shes not a carry except in brick.
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>>581417802
sry
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>>581419125
>(optional)
You know you can tag sections as optional, you don't need to put in (optional) in the name
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>>581418375
Only /dlg/ will see a character with built in dispel magic + 5 bullet lifesteals stacked ontop of eachother and think "this character is dogshit I want to play Wraith instead that needs more items to do the same thing"
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>>581420142
NTA and I don't really care about your conversation but Haze doesn't play like other m1s. She's more of a playmaker/facilitator than a hard carry
That's not to say that she can't carry, but you play her much more proactively than the other m1s that just want to farm until 30 minutes.
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>>581419125
good if fed, bad if equal skill to opponent.
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>>581418375
What the fuck do you want, the enemy team to just let them kill you? Yeah she's weak because of the HP but she still shitstomps pubs and if you get them to all counter build just you it's a massive win for the team. How are you ascendant?
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>>581420142
All the lifesteal in the world means nothing when die in one hit to any ability
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Haze is missing!!!!
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>>581423191
haze is actually in a good state. still shit if you just ult bot, but heavily rewards people who can headshot. and cheaters i guess
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>>581416156
https://youtu.be/Wt5EHAqhR1c?is=OHrv440Hqx_644pK
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venator is so dogshit still.
yoshi baiting spics into buying rico (shit venator item unless hes 11 slotted) early and he does no damage so who even cares if you can ricochet the bolts
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>>581423557
A 43% WR hero doesn't become good just because you add a funny interaction to wipe the midboss pit once every 30 games.
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CALICO IF SHE GOOD
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every single match on the east coast is complete fucking garbage
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AIIIIEEEEE I CANT MAKE A COMEBACK ANYMORE
BUFF THE COMBACK MECHANICS YOSHIT TEAMS BEHIND CANT DO SHIT THE FIRST 15 MINUTES
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>>581424285
>shitcago
>east coast
don't lump those wiggers in with the beastcoast.
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>>581424243
Damn Ava is hung
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>>581424243
what’s up with the vaxxer mask
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>>581424353

just came back from a 30k difference
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I won ALL my matches on Silver since the patch. She wasn't really buffed but they finally fixed her bugs, she is finally not useless against flyers and she is more viable in this meta, but I'm just exhausted and burned out by this game. There are things like her M1 bug still being s thing, her ult being useless in the late game... I think I'll take a break till that big content drop.
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>>581424357
big fuck you to the black cocks
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SOMEONE HELP ME TAKE OUT ABRAMS
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>>581424676
Do you still have to mash left click to get any auto attacks or did they fix that too?
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>>581425063
>Poke Abrams for 100 damage while we pass each other
>Don't start a fight
HE'S NOT GOING DOWN
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>>581423272
haze bvlls
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>>581425120
Yuo have to mash between using abilities, otherwise she stops attacking. Day 1 bug btw, so annoying
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One more week........
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>>581425615
And the Pantsu update will be in the game...
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>>581425316
Why rapid recharge? Ate you really supposed to spam invis that much?
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>your mina gets fed doing mina things
>but she's too afraid to push a walker even with triple blink and an easy split push

this hero is so strong but her playerbase is full of retards
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>>581426004
Usually the entire enemy team comes to rape them if they do that (with four slowing Sexes)
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>>581426071
there was a teamfight on the other lane with 5 of them and a farming afk victor as the sixth. no, he did not have any disables
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all the content creators on dedlawk are annoying ass bitches and charisma voids I've never seen such a bunch of unwatchable faggots it really is just zergy on this bitch
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>>581425682
I'd love this weak pocket faggot to hold my balls while my BWC cums buckets in that thight ricebunny mina pussy. i'm a Christian btw
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>>581426218
I hope singsing plays again once the update drops
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what am i meant to do against a dynamo bebop lane
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>>581425863
An instant dispel and 50% lifesteal is pretty good as it turns out.
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>>581426337
/owg/ post
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>>581426337
Pocket doesnt give a fuck.
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>>581426381
They're both slow fat fucks, shoot them.
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>>581426337
Pocket doesn't give a shit about Mina dude.
He's living a fucking sewer.
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So is the Abrams + Shiv lane just dogshit to fight or am I missing something? I wanted to die the entire laning phase even if we won in the end.
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>>581426683
with seven
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>>581394116
KEK
more pro player slander like this please
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this beast
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The war is over, you've LOST
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>>581426962
I kinda like that his pacifist shit is fake
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>>581426775
Buy resto locket if your hero allows it, shiv's knives fill it up real fast
You are probably not killing them, but you should be able to farm just fine, they are both shotgun users, they can't hurt you
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47 minute, 6.2k damage doing ass--.. Literally how???
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>>581426337
Isn't Pockets whole deal that xher wasn't into Mina in first place because it was an arranged marriage and got shot for the trouble anyway.
Do we even have any actual canon sexual attraction between characters outside of Paige being a fujo gooner girl and Vyper stalking Lash?
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>>581427339
Pocket never mentions Mina ever, he doesn't give a fuck.
A lot of girls thirst over Victor but he also doesn't give a fuck. Shiv a bit too.
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>>581427339
Vyper and Billy plan an alleyway monster mash after the ritual.
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>>581427475
>Y'mind if I call you Lash?
>I don't give a shit.
Heh I never knew
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>>581427473
Mina released after Pocket and his is one of the VAs they've been unwilling to get back
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>>581426337
VenatorGOD
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>>581427170
The answer is right there in your Pic. Spirit hero with no spirit investment
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>>581427170
>Mina
>No purples
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>>581427170
Miss all your shots.
2 kills are from ult probably or something stupid like that.
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>>581426787
and Maurice!
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why do nigs play cali instead of drifter who is better in every way
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>>581427170
>spiritless mina
Based Cutie
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>>581426775
Having to be in the air the entire time abrams is on screen is fun actually and he should be buffed and have more stuns.
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>>581427995
calico has better map coverage and her burst is easy to do. drifter has to play around his ult or landing teleport skillshots to follow up and he can't disengage like calico can with her ult
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>>581427339
Mina + Vic
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Im going fucking stir crazy
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>>581427995
drifter is dogshit vs humans
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>>581428469
good thing all deadlock players are animals.
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>>581426897
la creatura...
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>>581427995
Drifter scales much better but Calico is honestly more fun.
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>>581428458
same I wish I had a job or could afford to go to school
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>>581425863
yes using it to dispel is really good
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why are graves skulls never all around me at the same time, they are spread out and require like 5 melees till they are all killed
i was lied to
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Minatards... indians are extorting us...
https://youtu.be/kVQfwL2ZMkQ?&t=735

MOMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>581430393
they attack in a flurry one after the other so you have to wait until the last one in the sequence hits you to melee
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how do you play paige?
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>>581430746
1. diaper
2. estradiol
3. ???
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>>581430770
what are you implying?
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>>581430746
start punching people in lane you get like 3 kills out of unaware people
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How good is venator as a support or healer
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>>581431712
trap focused venator is fun but bad because traps expire too fast
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DON'T LET THEM OUT POSITION US
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>>581427995
Drifter takes skill. Cali has two disengage tools and an extra mobility move. If your out of position as drifter you get butt raped
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>>581432032
but drifter can just blind and then hold W to run away at light speed
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>>581432716
>120 second cooldown
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>>581430549
it's always funny to me the notion that someone could drudge up the most reprehensible shit I've ever done on the internet and blackmail me into them not telling my mom. My mom would be way more horrified if I paid a single penny to prevent her from seeing my dick pic or whatever. She would take one for the team in that scenario every time unironically, yours probably would too.
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>>581432716
>ult is a glorified smoke screen like a scared squid
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when are the deleting bashdown (blackhole 2.0) from the game
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>>581432716
unless you've been shot in which case all your sprint is gone
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>>581431712
Average playtester survey question
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Deadlock should be 5v5, not 6v6
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>>581427339
Silver and Celeste.
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Its time boys.
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>>581435669
dehumanizing humiliation ritual shit
we need surredender like enemies should be bannewd for trhis bs
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>>581435669
kino

>>581435760
low test
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>>581427339
Yamato wants to make Paige her pet
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oh my god my FUCKING HANDS I CANT HIT THE FUCKING 1 KEY

FUCKING WARDOGS
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>>581435760
have you had anything to drink tonight sir
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>>581435760
i wouldn't even be mad at that tbqh
getting targeted by ivy+dynamo with a mid-flight black hole is peak humiliation ritual
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>>581435457
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>we made it so you cant comeback
what did icefrog mean by this?
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>>581438665
i've had plenty of comebacks since the patch though
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>girlfailure wolf woman
>Voiced by the same person who voices loona, another girlfailure wolf woman
No way thats a coincidence, someone at valve knew what they were doing when they cast erica lindbeck
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why does mina's gun feel so awful to use i swear buying high velocity on her is a must
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>>581438836
IM JACKING OFF AND I DONT KNOW WHY
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>>581438665
>>we made it so you cant comeback
>Midboss is still in the game
What did anon mean by this?
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i still dont understand why tankbuster (worst item in the game) was nerfed

if a lot of people started to buy hollow point (second worst item in the game) on every hero without really understanding why, would yoshit also nerf it just because its bought a lot?
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>graves 53% wr in ascendant+
huh?
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I'm already bored with this patch
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>>581420316
She's more like a burst character then M1 desu
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im not surprised tankbuster (best item in the game) was nerfed

if a lot of people started to buy hollow point (second best item in the game) on every hero, maybe yoshi will deservedly nerf it too
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>Spirit Lash is back
>He's still OP
I keep telling you niggers, nerf his HP so he actually requires a little skill
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>BUCKLE UP BOYS AND GIRLS
What did he mean by this?
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>>>/wsg/6236466
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>>581441492
So is this your obsession lately? You've been spamming this general these last 2 days
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Why are deadlock devs so retarded?
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>>581411520
Maybe you're not trying hard enough? Lurk more faggot.
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"I see that pretty boy"
The pretty boy in question:
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>>581441945
>hardest worker in the team gets taxed to fund welfare checks for the poor
woah....deep.......
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It really is the simple things lads.
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>>581442623
I miss those green bridges so much
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>>581442623
When the game had soul
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>>581427995
you got it in reverse bro
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>>581441705
I started today though.
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>>581442623
damn this game was ugly af
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>>581438836
Silver and Loona are for human men ONLY
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>>581442623
i was the warden in this
this was when running boxes was meta and people would run amazon delivery driver kelvin build
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I am consistently out-damaging all of my teammates AND out-healing them all as rem and i cant win i cant fucking win im stuck in the lowest rank i cant get out im in fucking hell im in hell i had 7 straight wins in my placements and i still got placed initiate V valve are such fucking morons brainless fucking idiots for whatever nonsense inane shit code is running this piece of shit holy FUCKING shit jesus christ FUCK FUCK FUCK i am in HELL

HELL
HELL
HELL
i am in hell
i am in hell
i am in hell
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>>581445404
dont play support in fucking initiate lel
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>>581445404
Stop playing meme characters and play a carry
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>>581445404
Rem LMAO
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>>581445571
>>581445781
>>581446093
i dont want to play goddamned lash or victor and my rem dealing 70k damage when the next lowest on my team is 40k. Thats in ADDITION to doing the most healing in the game. Im dealing burst with the character and getting kills and not dying. Its insane that I have to go even further and just carry every fucking game like what the fuck is wrong with this piece of shit game why dont I get the fucking carry on my team ever? why do I have to play fucking S tier characters when im already completely shitting on everyone, how much more do i have to do FUCKING CHRIST
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>>581442552
Yeah Seven players work really hard pressing that 1 key.
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they deadass looked at paradox doing 1500 damage from 60m with a single button press and said "lets nerf her minimum damage"
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>>581442024
Monke
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>>581442024
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>>581415854
Silver was designed to bait furry trannies into the game so yeah hulk would be way better
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>>581444710
>Silver
>Gets on with venator
>Loona
>Gets on with wrigglers

Whats up with wolf women and liking older, mature men?
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>>581446536
>deadass
does anyone actually say this out loud
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>>581447228
im from new york so yes
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>>581447371
Well I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "deadass"
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As a Bebop player, Viscous is the only hero that makes me angry enough to allchat kys.
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>>581448225
>utica
you aint from new york
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>>581446364
Well you aren't shitting on them hard enough since you are losing.
Seriously, play a carry, 1v6 enemy team, win and get to a rank where people are capable of using movement keys and shooting at the same time.
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>>581448302
dynamo is fine?
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>>581448418
Stomp is easier to dodge than splatter.
Doesn't have punch.
Quantum entanglement has less range than cube.
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>>581449025
>Stomp is easier to dodge than splatter
Are we playing the same game?
Viscous cannot spam splatter the same way dynamo can spam stomp
>But muh puddle punches
Those can be parried and become trivially easy to do so once you get used to the sound que
Also, cube can be cursed off
QE cannot
And dont get me started on dynamo's ult that can singlehandedly win games, every match with a dynamo should also have a lash, a rem or a sinclair on the opposite team to give them even a modicum of a chance at winning
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>>581449269
Viscous at best gets a "oh COME ON" when he cubes and rescue beams MY KILL.
Dynamo makes me want to commit hate crimes.
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was that cool
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>>581449574
Man, you cant even be mad when viscous cubes someone then starts levitating them like its a troll physics comic before punching both of them away, that shit is hilarious
Getting vacuum sucked by a dynamo, though?
0 counterplay unless you can act within the split second before he pops his ult and activate your own unstop and gtfo
And those bullshit stops that just permastun you from a kilometer away while dealing a third of your health in damage...
Yeah, no, just fuck dynamo, the whole black whole thing works in dota and is fair because its got a top down view, but in deadlock its incredibly easy to pull off with the most set up, just get a void walker or a shadow veil plus a majestic leap or a warp stone and theres nothing the enemy could do to stop you, especially since fights tend to devolve into close quarters free for alls where all sense of coordination is lost
I hate this fat metal nigger so much its unreal
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Had a good game that lost to one bad midboss fight
How the fuck do you contest mid when the enemy had Dynamo, Celeste and Doorman all with ult up?
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>>581450079
>How the fuck do you contest mid when the enemy had Dynamo, Celeste and Doorman
You all buy unstop and try to kill them before the effect wears off, if they are doing mid then you will have a much easier time picking them off
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>>581450053
>permastun you from a kilometer away
ohnonono
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>>581450053
It's the opposite, black hole is worse in this game because it has verticality and people are generally not clumping up outside objectives, and equivalent items exist in dota
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>>581450441
You might think that, but from my experience, around 40% of teamfights end up being fought indoors , at least the most important ones are, like the midboss fight or the patron defence
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>>581450053
>dynamo stomp
>it goes through two walls and 10m up vertical to launch you into space
>he will do it again
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>>581449269
Stomps are incredibly easy to predict and jump over.
Splatter is unreactable and has fuckhuge range.
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https://youtu.be/9522kz4C4VM
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>>581416826
>viscous
>silver
It's understandable they'd lose lane. None of the popular Viscous builds function and Silver is just generally pretty weak.
>lane is piss easy
Probably because the Calico fucked off and ganked lanes early realizing it was a losing lane. That would be about expected as Calico players have a genetic need to make the match as miserable as possible.
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>>581451920
This nigga is fucking annoying as hell
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>>581450053
>final team fight
>our team makes note of the Dynamo with Veilwalker, playing defensively but trying to get poke damage in defending base guardian
>he goes invisible, warp stones, refresher ults and kills three of us
The devs want to have their cake and eat it too. The bullshit hero design of DOTA but no access to map information. One or the other.
>>581411389
>>581441987
still no counter argument
also the meme is "lurk moar", wannabe oldfag
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>>581450708
Had some games today as dyno and I feel his stomps changed after the patch, or I'm delusional. His stomps are disappearing or just not connecting as well as they used to. If I stomp on air, usually they'd travel forward and hit the enemy if they were far away enough, now it's like the animation touched them but they are unnaffected. Also small bumps on the terrain are just outright stopping the stomp halfway through, and the wave no longer flows through tunnels/corners. Am I going crazy? Any other dynos having the same feel?
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Buff Kelvin, Abrams and Bebop.
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>>581449646
swag
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remodeled yamato will be just as sexo as mina and paige
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why does shiv do everything and all roles at once
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>>581455154
why does (90% of the deadlock roster) do everything and all roles at once
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Mystic Reverb on Shiv's 1
think about it
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Why shouldn't I build surge of power on Paige's 2?
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>>581456538
do whatever the hell you want why are you asking me?
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>>581456538
you're spending 3k souls to add 60-80HP to your shield
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fucking dead because you can parry during sleep apparently
bullshit fucking game
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>>581457616
>haze player seething
like music and if you meant rem see above
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>>581457994
billy
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>>581458123
i accept my concession
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Why the fuck is there a lolcow video on metro now LMAO
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Hate to say it but this guy is right. They didn't change shit really with this patch, and they REFUSE to fix fundamental problems with the game.
https://youtu.be/nbR4OF-fFYQ
In a few weeks someone's gonna find the broken meta and everything will be basically the same. It's like running in a hamster wheel.
They need to stop trying to "balance" the game and just start reworking heroes. Some of them are fundamentally broken (like Celeste, Shiv, Mokrill) some of them are boring and some of them are just shit (like Silver).
They need to admit that some hero designs (gameplay wise) are just garbage. They need to rework and reiterate heroes at faster pace. Radically change their abilities and traits, replacing abilities.
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Settle down everyone. Content patch in 1.5 weeks and it will literally save the game + solve everything + give Vyper fat tits.
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>>581459253
>1.5
Next week
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>>581459684
It's releasing the 30th or the 1st of October in classic Valve Time fashion.
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>>581426337
celeste sister...
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>>581458783
it was a shit video too, he spent half the video talking about unrelated shit, showed 2 clips of him ragequitting and spent the other half covering the "pedo" allegations from months ago
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>>581459684
that may very well be but I'm not getting my hopes up before we get a confirmation that it's not delayed
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>>581458989
>a nigga whos just miserable the entire time

Fucking KEK
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>>581452421
>replying to a post 10 hours later
>trying to pretend like you won
holy mental illness
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>>581459253
>+ give Vyper fat tits
fucking plebs
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>>581458989

This entire channel is just some fag crashing out at deadlock.
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>>581458783
He should've talked less about le Google doccy and more about how metro had a game where he did 10k damage on haze, then went against her, lost, and called her braindead ez lmao. That would have been way funnier.
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>>581453841
>Egirls and trannies are going to start playing yamato after this
HEADED TO YERROW
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMb3byHXwjE

THE UNBEATABLE METRO CLIP
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When are we getting a monkey hero
Robbie Williams doesn't count
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>>581462420
monkey king derivative is coming with chyna release
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>>581462513
Arigato China
My greatest allies in video gaming
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>>581462186
Thing is, funny mo krill blyat man was right too. He has no macro sense whatsoever, and playing exclusively wraith and warden has further rotted his brain.
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You have to let the dread... mmmmahrinate a liidle...
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>>581461223
His takes seem to be low IQ (not surprising, he play Lash) but Deadlock has serious case of toxic positivity and dev fellating and we seriously need someone to make a full analysis of this game's development and how poorly it's been done. Definitely not this guy though, he's retarded
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edded to blooo
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>>581460323
i go to sleep, refresh page, i find post in /vg/
if this takes you more than 2 minutes, idk man
>>581458989
>hey need to stop trying to "balance" the game and just start reworking heroes.
Fool's errand, this game will never be improved just tuning numbers. You're just trading one dogshit meta for another. The core design pillars need to be reworked to favor strategy rather than draft. They can't get away continuing to copy paste DOTA 2 design philosophy but with crucial crutches stripped out.
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>>581463025
The fuck is "macro sense"?
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>>581463298
Deadlock is a moba anon. Macro refers map and player awareness in a moba. Metro dives into 2+ people while his team is not in a position to rotate and help and then he blames them. This is bad macro sense, no awareness of anything that isn't directly in front of him, yet he claims to have the deepest understanding of the game and only loses because of bad matchmaking. Being able to read the map and see who actually can help you in a fight, who might need help in a fight, and constantly monitoring minion waves is very important. This is all macro sense. Also no offense nigga but you could have just google this.
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>>581463229
>but with crucial crutches stripped out.
Which crutches?
>t. Never played Dota2
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>>581463229
>i go to sleep, refresh page, i find post in /vg/
>if this takes you more than 2 minutes, idk man
>let some random anon live rent free in your mind overnight
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is this the future of shooter aiming? giving up on traditional mice and using trackballs?
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>>581463621
>Also no offense nigga but you could have just google this.
I refuse to engage with soulless algorithms and AIs. I'd rather force you to type shit. Thanks for explanation BTW.
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>>581464039
You know what fuck it I can respect that
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so why does every part of haze's kit in some way or another scale with spirit and venator is just a chud with no spirit scaling except meme traps
like just make the grenade area or something scale with spirit
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>>581463720
>Which crutches?
Vision/wards means that you can have sufficient amount of information to avoid the patch's broken meta picks and operate around them. Long rotation times means that the broken meta picks can't be everywhere at once.

Deadlock is designed just as carelessly without any contingency plans for shit patches.
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>>581464158
why do you need spirit scaling on venator? you are asking the wrong questions
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>>581463923
I'm sorry you have 8mb of ram so you need to actively open the thread again every time you need to reply.
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>>581464342
because the game is more interesting when character can build many items instead of being railroaded into just a few
this might not matter to you L->R niggas but it does to everyone else
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>>581464158
doesn't he get both resists scaling with spirit
mind you it isn't a lot if i remember correctly but it is there
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>>581458989
>I play the game once every 3 days
>Guys pls listen to my serious balance opinions I know what I'm talking about ok
Haha what a fag
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>>581464482
>non-sequitur
I'm just letting you know by replying to that anon 12 hours later you're retarded. You automatically lose whatever dumb argument you were having. You let him know you were still thinking about/seething about your interaction from 12 hours prior and replied to the post for the second time.
Maybe you didn't mean to - that's fine, but you did, and now you look retarded and obsessed.
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>>581464556
You're right, he does get 12% all res per 100 spirit investment, which is realisitcally never going to matter because if you want resistances you'll just build resistances.
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>>581464039
based
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>>581464987
They could buff this stat but it might make him cancer unkillable.
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>>581464987
Except it realistically would matter because if people had a reason to build spirit venator this shit would be giga cancer
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>>581465675
>spirit Ven
>does no damage except traps
>but he never dies and shits out stuns in midboss pit
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>>581464790
I make a sandwich, i press f5, I see reply.
Your line of logic that this requires persistent conscious effort doesn't work when the thread is just open in the backround anyway. You're forcing an angle that doesn't work.
typed with one hand btw
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>>581465453
I'd rather they give his kit some actual spirit scaling and make the res a goodie you get for investing more heavily into the spirit part of his kit, whatever that would be (area, burn duration, trap size, duration, ult reload speed/bolt count)
>>581465675
How much do you think you'd realistically invest? 100 spirit, 150 maybe? So 18 all res at most, in return for 12k+ worth of spirit items that are not spent on his damage.
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>>581465991
I've played with the idea of the pure damage scaling with spirit but that also seems giga aids.
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>>581465985
You saw a reply you had already replied to 12 hours prior?
... and then you replied to the same post again
... and you want me to believe you DIDN'T scroll up 12 hours worth of posts specifically to reply
Sure buddy whatever you say ;^)
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>>581462186
Why are ruskies so funny
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>>581464339
>>581463229
But people keep calling Deadlock the best game ever made... How could this be?!
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does the slow change make point blank usable or is it still a waste upgrade?
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>>581466750
A bit better but not worth upgrading unless you're slot locked
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>>581466443
>... and you want me to believe you DIDN'T scroll up 12 hours worth of posts specifically to reply
The browser saves your last highlighted post on reload and auto scrolls to its spot. Also what you're describing is not a difficult task. Do you think reading a news article is difficult task, which would take longer than reading this whole thread from zero?
>>581466517
Deadlock is the best game ever made the same way DOTA 2 is the best game ever made. Stockholm syndrome. I uninstalled and am just keeping an eye on balance patches at this point if they ever unfuck it.
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>>581468370
>more non-sequiturs
>The browser saves your last highlighted post on reload and auto scrolls to its spot
Okay but why did you reply to it again? And why would that post be highlighted when, following the reply chain, you kept replying for another 20 minutes after said post was made?
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>there are anons literally in this thread RIGHT NOW who think "late september" from a Valve employee means next week and not 30th of Sept at 23:59 or even early October
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>>581442024
https://youtu.be/S_CYdTmj7lA?is=351cj9Eey0tXOBS7
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>>581469645
I don't think
I KNOW
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>>581469645
I scheduled my work travel to arrive home on Sept 30 and i took Oct 1 and 2 off
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>>581468964
Because a post adjacent to yours is highlighted, as I have reloaded the page now. You see, how this site works is that the newest post shows up at the bottom. So when you reload, you can pick up where you left off.
>non-sequitur
You don't know what that word means.
>why did you reply to it again
Because it takes virtually no effort or time.
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>>581469645
>valve wants me to get hyped
>they nerfed viscous 50 times in a row because people can't press F or buy a T1 resist
viscous buff >>> content patch
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>>581464158
Make trap duration and durability scale with spirit
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>>581470357
When your punch isn't unparriable on reaction due to network compensation then you can complain
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>>581470179
But you picked up at a post different than where you left off. What about this do you not get? Are you translating posts from English to Hindi or something? How is this shit not getting through to you?
Textbook definition of a non-sequitur (it's a term, not a word) since you draw conclusions that don't follow what I say
>i-it doesn't take any time, I-I'm not obsessed
lol, yeah I'm sure all the mentally stable anons re-reply 12 hours later, dumb jeet
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>>581471058
What the fuck am I reading
Are you genuinely saying Viscous punch is unparriable
Hooooly Bricklo
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>>581471510
I would not expect a goonigga to be able to read, granted.
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>>581471640
I don't play that green fuck I'm just asking you to clarify, Brick chan
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>>581471695
>angry about viscous nerfs
>doesn't even play him
????????
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>>581471695
>Parry before the fist comes out of the wall
>Get hit anyways while in the parry anim due to network compensation
Hopefully your brain can handle this one.
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>>581471302
The current post that is highlighted was the last one I was reading before reload. So the one two posts above yours talking about trap duration. You're too self important, I'm not exclusively reading your posts and filtering everything else.

Also here you are calling me a jeet when you lack basic reading comprehension, to the point where basic features of this site needs to be explained in detail. Holy projection
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>>581471768
This may be hard for you to imagine but there are more people in this thread than that Viscous guy. Me, for example.
I'm obviously someone else, retard.
>>581471834
Post a video retard, never had that shit happen to me when I vs. that green fuck
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>immediate meltie for no reason
???????????????
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>>581471768
That was another anon.
>>581471058
>unparriable on reaction due to network compensation
The problem is the sound design of the punch taking too long for the attack to kick in. If you feel Puddle Punch is hard to parry, Bebop's hook has been historically broken on multiple levels (from mathematic reaction time accounting for latency to sound design to camera offsets). Yet Viscous gets all the hate.
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Make Grapple Arm a charged ability
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which ultimate is weak enough to be a charged one like vinny's?
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>>581471510
Congrats, you parried one (1) punch.
There's three more coming, with splatters in between.
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haze feels good
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>>581472673
Paradox
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>>581471916
>answers something completely different.
Let me spell it out for you since it's hard for you to follow, Rajesh or Sukdikh or whatever the fuck your name is
Your last post last night was this
>>581412259, yet you double replied to this post >>581411389 here >>581452421, saying they still had "no counterargument", when you had already replied to him here >>581411520
You went out of your way to re-reply to someone 12 hours later.
You are an eternal obsessed loser who let that random anon live rent free in your mind to the point where you still thought about him 12 hours later after both he (and presumably you, one would hope) had already moved on.
Now I shan't be replying anymore myself, the poo smell from you and the rest of your call center or wherever the fuck you brownoids access computers is starting to leak through the computer screen.
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>>581420142
It's getting real fucking bad in general.

There's more invisible mechanics in this game than lines of fucking code.
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>>581473065
I like that the game just fucking gives up while explaining Exploding Uppercut's ability description
Like half of how it works is not listed
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>>581473065
Big Yahu doesn't play Bebop tho he plays Celeste
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>>581473065
building up glorp stacks is real strong for the bling blong anti meta
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>>581464008
I used a trackball when I played tf2, it was great for rocket jumping as soldier.

Zergyy is a faggot who just uses it because it is a gimmick for him though.
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>>581469880
Shiv coded song holy hell. I also like great balls of fire for shiv.
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>>581474185
i mean all things considering his aim is crisp as fuck both in terms of flicking and tracking so it's clearly working out for him and i think there were some osu pros that uses a drawin pen as well for gaming
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>>581474203
thank you! lowkirkuenly? it’s also a me-coded song if you knew me. you and I would be boys dw.

here’s another jammer https://youtu.be/jhnn3St0i7U?is=2WtjsVFvE2zNyY_G
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>>581474185
he has been using it since he was a kid retard
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>6 games win streak on Silver
Bros, I can't believe it... Are we... Are we back?
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>>581475245
i dont know how to feel about her, ive been trying to use the #1 silver onetrick's build post patch and the lifestrike stuff feels good but he doesnt use anything to help trigger lycan so maybe i just dont have the execution to pull it off
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>>581475245
They made the worst hero in the game slightly less clunky to play and anyone that suffered to play her before is rewarded with the worst hero in the game but slightly less shit.
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>>581475691
>phantom strike on a skillshot

nah that's gud bruh
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Silvernation gonna freak when they discover sup duration echo bola
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>>581469645
It could be a june 39th situation too... wouldn't be the first time...
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>>581474779
This song too for Shiv if you like Jerry Lee Lewis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN8VV8CHnrk
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Refresher Dwiftah.
Epic or fail?
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i love spirit venator too much bros
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>>581477067
echo also works on the lycan version of the ability right? having double disarm could be really funny vs the right teams
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They should straight up rip off Gigantic for one of the modes. Direct patron participation might be cool
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>>581477553
Yes you can echo either one
It's a very long disarm with duration and Kevlar
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>>581477769
That's a good idea which is exactly why it will not be in Deadlock.
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silver still needs an actual ultimate in wolf form she's a bolabot lategame
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>>581479926
Heal on kill was her ult
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>>581479926
Make her resists scale with boons, so its like 10% early game and 25% late game.
You can readjust these numbers but I'm sure most silverfags would agree to a slightly worse early game for more scaling
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Anyone got the enjoy your sad life nigger doorman pic?
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>>581480353
>free bullet res and spirit res 30 mins in

hmmmm no
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>>581480558
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>>581480660
Bitch, there are crazier ultimate in the game
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>>581481135
>skirmisher that goes full damage with free phantom strike on bola now gets free t3 resists in dive form

sounds like something that would last 24 hours in live
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>>581481373
>free phantom strike
The upplaying never ends
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>>581481135
Warden gets 50% resists for his ult (80%) at max ult, yam gets 60% or something
Fucking mo gets 30% spirit and A HUGE 60% bullet resist on his burrow for no fucking reason that is a non ultimate
Make it make sense
>>581481373
That's why I said make it a late game thing you stupid nigger
25% resist is legit nothing by then
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>>581481610
you mean the heroes everyone bitches about and then get a shit ton of nerfs to every other part of their kit to compensate?
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>>581480558
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>>581481610
Warden only gets it for 2 seconds when channeling, not the whole fucking ult that would be insane
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buff silver
nerf celeste
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Silvertannies will not stop crying until she can one-shot someone in 1 second with the wolf M1.
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>>581481759
Mo hasn't been nerfed in ages you braindead downplayer
Are you a mo main by any chance
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>>581482083
you wouldn't last 5 seconds in the tunnels
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>>581477769
My name is in the credits for this game. Want to ask me any questions?
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>>581482527
are you gigantic?
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>>581482592
for you
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>mo and krill just get to jump in do shiit for free fully heal and then tunnel away at 900000 km/h with resists
the most retarded character in this entire game not even joking HOW can you be more brainless than Overwatch genuinely?
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>>581482592
No im hugh mungus
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>>581472673
hyperbeam should just be a toggle that costs some HP as long as its active with no cooldown, right now its the worst ultimate in the game
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Rape'm
'n
Gape'm
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>>581481836
I thought Silvertrannies were the ones who wouldn't stop crying until she was nerfed to 42% winrate (this actually happened)
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>>581472991
>too low a working memory to even remember what the argument originally was while spamming "non sequitur" and "reddit spacing"
Original argument was here, remains unaddressed. >>581411256

I accept your concession, drag this out for 50 more replies further derailing, then project that onto me.
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>>581472673
Mina's below eternus.
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>>581482910
When you do no damage you're allowed to be good at other things
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>>581483408
LOL
LMAO
Maybe YOU do no damage because you are a brainless subhuman
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>>581483408
>mo
>doing low damage
you fucking downplayers need to be perma banned
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>>581483209
the guy you've been arguing with isn't even me, you moron. ive been at work all day, and then I come home to find you're still going with someone else
take your fucking meds. Also he's right you're weird as fuck for replying to my post again 10 (idk why he said 12) hours later.
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Oh you guys are dying to solo Mo, that explains a lot
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>>581483209
>>581483796
Oh, and I forgot
>reddit spacing
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>>581483408
mo got a damage amp and his 2 destroys HP bars early, mid and late game
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next time i get a mo and krill on the enemy team im taking a penalty these devs dont know what they're doing sorry
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>>581484891
Mo and krill are designed solely to punish people out of position anon I don't know what to tell you
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>>581485237
Don't talk
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Only MOBAtards will look you dead in the eyes and say the character running around with a free escape tool, a million hp, and multiple powerful, 0 aim required abilities deserves to exist
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>>581485513
I gottem mo
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>>581485580
Yeah Celeste has gotta go
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so many things could be solved in this game if they just made them skillshots scorn? skill shot imagine saying "yep walk forward and do damage around you while healing is great game design ship it" literal chimps no hyperbole CHIMPS could fucking do that
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>>581485580
Nah I agree celeste is op anon
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>>581485580
slows and anti-heal are pretty good into mo, cant help you with the rest though
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>>581483796
>the guy you've been arguing with isn't even me, you moron
Least obvious samefag.
Even if that weren't the case, you're still replying for who knows what reason, not engaging with the original argument (which would have been somewhat productive), then complaining I'm doing the same.

I'm well aware how your kind loves flinging shit, so you get the last word.
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>>581486023
This nigga actually have a meltie over a B tier character
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>>581483126
Why would Silvertrannies want their Barbie hero nerfed.
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Dude mystic regeneration on mokrill is broken
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>>581485580
>haze takes more skill than you can ever conceive of
type shit
Every character in this game is cheese. Just a few months ago Haze's ult would straight up 1v6 in a dome, until they decided she should have a 45 degree aiming zone (omg!)
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THEY are trying to spread the narrative that mokrill is a lowskill character.
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>>581486182
can you not read?
i am the guy from last night. I've been at work all day, the guy you've been arguing with is someone else and I've no interest in arguing with someone who admitted to not even playing the game anymore somewhere further up the thread so even if I wanted to pick up where we left off last night I'd rather not.
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Compare Holliday to Mo and Krill to see how stupid this game is
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>>581483126
They are, and they still pretended the hero was op lmao classic delusional trannies
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>>581486609
Yeah let's let Mo move during combo
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>>581481610
>Warden gets 50% resists for his ult (80%) at max ult
While he channels it
not during the ult

are you legitimately comparing resists for 2 seconds vs 15 seconds of resists?
You want 25%? Make lycan form only 5 seconds, then we can talk.
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>>581486797
They did anon with majestic leap
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>>581486565
play mokrill blyat
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new hero names leaked

sloppy joe
gertrude
robby rocket
fatman & littleboy
alfalfa (black and white cartoon hero)
bazz (1st guest hero)
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>>581486915
makrill*
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>>581486859
Doesn't work against sapient players but it is funny
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>>581486915
Why are Billy's arms nigger colored?
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>>581487182
because r34 artists dont play the game
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Man I think Mo is a little on the strong side and could do with some nerfs but I kinda want him to stay this way to make focuslets and positioninglets seethe.
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we still need a witch and a mermaid
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>>581487312
Boho my beloved...
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>>581487291
i play him and i think his damage is too strong, but people really don't try to counter him at all they just bitch about his strengths
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honestly 90% of the characters are obnoxious the game's heroes are just terribly designed
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>>581487312
mermaid on land proves to be somewhat problematic
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>>581487524
true sister, they should look at league of legends for peak hero design frfr
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>>581487524
welcome to mobas
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New sex dropped
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>>581487494
Yeah like literally just ignore him in teamfights lol, if your fed you should have a defensive item for combo anyways and if your not it's a win wasting combo on the guy that isnt fed.
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>>581487563
you can literally kill a ghost and a pile of goo
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>>581487076
it literally works on everyone wtf are you saying
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>>581487563
Make her slither like a naga.
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>>581482527
Why the fuck did it have like 3 or 4 launches and relaunches and every single one was botched? Neat game BTW
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>>581487719
yeah, but what is she going to do, flop around like Vyper? very unbecoming
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>>581392083
where are her BIG FAT TITS
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>>581392505
I'm not big fan of redguards
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>>581487823
Nigga has never read how leap works
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I'm getting the itch to play again but i'm kinda trying to wait for the FUCK HUEG content drop next week.
What the fuck am I supposed to do, there are no games to play man.
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New Silver meta dropped
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New deathy just dropped
https://youtu.be/AaDLYmSfSdc
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What are you hopes for new heroes
I want proper frontliners that aren't half carry or half pick
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>>581488265
>Lash
Are there ANY streamers or tubers that DON'T play low effort characters?
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>>581488183
>cheats
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>>581488531
yeah, deathy
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>>581488265
deathy cooked
>>581488451
I want to see a hero whose abilities scale with green items
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>>581488451
front liners naturally transition into semi carries or semi assassins depending on their kit doe
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>>581488531
Nah bro you don't get it, they have to play comically overtuned characters 24/7 otherwise they would be Oracle peak and nobody would watch their streams or listen to their opinions
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>>581488265
I can't him seriously because he looks like a kid I bullied back in Highschool.
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>>581488856
fuck you mirage
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>>581488671
When was the last time he played Sinclair?
>>581488451
This game doesn't need new heroes. It needs to rework like 60% of current heroes to at least make them not boring, I won't even dare to ask valve to balance them because they're clearly incapable.
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>>581487618
Honestly would be an improvement compared to Veilwalker, Merc Magnum, Spellslinger slop.
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>>581488451
3 instead of 6 because a bulk of the roster needs a major rework and they're clearly procrastinating it.
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>>581488451
I want a mouse knight girl
Make her slightly smaller than rem and fairly low on HP but with abilities that make her tanky.
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>>581489612
>major rework

minor at most. I can't think of a hero that would need a full rework.
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>suddenly silver in every game
kek
and they will still cry
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it's up
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>>581489791
Well she's still dogshit so
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>>581489757
>I can't think of a hero that would need a full rework.
You clearly don't play the game all that often
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>>581489757
sinclair's wack
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>>581490172
ok, name the heroes you believe need a full rework. my definition of minor rework is 1 to 2 abilities being changed or reworked, I'm presuming you mean a complete "full rework"

>>581490291
ult and bolt are fine, hex and assistant are most likely to get touched
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So basically I'm a biased hero shooter/mobafag this is my guide to hero winrates so listen up ok?
>Hero I like is high pickrate high winrate
Listen guys pub winrates don't tell the whole story, this is obviously a noob stomper that doesn't work at high elo
>Hero I don't like is high pickrate high winrate
I mean just look at the winrate that says it all FUCK YOSHI why the FUCK do you balance your game like SHIT. Stats don't liw
>Hero I like is low pickrate low winrate
I MEAN JUST LOOK!!!! AT THE WINRATE!!!! Look how fucking bad and awful this hero is! Please buff them now!
>Hero I don't like is low pickrate low winrate
Listen guys I know the winrate is only 43% but this is secretly the most overpowered hero in the game. You can't trust winrates, just look at Shiv. Trust me, it's the Shiv effect.
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>>581487494
I would take back old ult AP if it meant nerfing his damage.
>duration is the max ap for ult
>but also you're supposed to play him as a fucking burst assassin now but also still have the scaling pick ult that depends on teammates to come help
>also his burst dps counter synergises with his pick ult as he can easily get locked into the spin before being able to ult
>and then they buff burrow so that it incentivizes you more to roam around in it with the perma CD instead of roaming around with ult ready
Imagine if primal beast was locked into a catching his breath animation after using onslaught.
I still find him fun but I do feel like they don't know what they want from the character.
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>>581489757
>I can't think of a hero that would need a full rework.
Viscous. The developers are clearly unhappy with his kit and don't want any singular ability to be strong. This is a sign he needs ANOTHER rework (he went through several prior to the 2024 test).
Celeste. Overloaded kit, too difficult to balance live, feasibly.
Any m1 carry, the game already numerically favors them down to damage formula, and on top of that they're often paired with hard CC, attracting players that simply do not interact with the game's systems and end up with >50% win rate.
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None of the characters need reworks, we just need reverts to the shitty march 6 update.
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>>581490368
Yamato
Vindicta
Probably Gary Talon
Viscous
Mirage
Bebop
Mo and Skill
Also Pocket but that one's just for me personally
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>>581489757
Are you for real my nigga?
Every passive should be trashcan Ned and replaced with real ability or AT LEAST not take the button and then give every hero a passive.
Celeste's shield shouldn't be in the game.
Shiv should absolutely be reworked entirely.
Venators trap should be considered for replacement
Silver could use a real fucking ult
Minas 2 is too good, should be reworked or replaced
Apollo should be reworked
Yamato could be reworked into something more interesting
Graves's skulls could be easily replaced with something more interesting or useful
I could go on and on.
Every grenade ability should be on the chopping block because they're boring. Like 50% of game's abilities are grenades. Talk about creative bankruptcy.
Many abilities either don't synergise with the rest of their heroes' kits or are simply boring and could be replaced with something more interesting.
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>>581490531
>viscous, celeste, any gun carry

lol
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I hope viscous and krill get their remodels this update...
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>>581488451
We desperately need ACTUAL tanks / frontliners and not these last patches where everyone was either a carry or a burst assassin.
At the same time buff abrams to just have huskar passive and make Mo deal less damage, have less health scaling from ult but make the bonus health be base health.
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>>581490890
pocket is puck with veno ult, it's a simple effective kit. also disagree with vindicta. rest, yea and I think talon is the most confirmed for a rework.

>>581490917
>Every passive should be trashcan Ned and replaced with real ability or AT LEAST not take the button and then give every hero a passive.

why?

>the rest

lol
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>give every hero a passive just because
is some league faggot shit kys
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dota also has a fuckton of passives and innates though..?
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>>581490930
I mean, look at patch history. Viscous got like 50 nerfs in a row, it's diabolical. Celeste jumped from 47% to 57% winrate in a weekend.
>any gun carry
Yes. I'm doubling down.
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>>581491554
you or that anon are asking for a full passive rework because they're anally blasted by celeste or other heroes with different innate stats
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>passives
They should add the break mechanic from dota and a hero with an ult that applies said break mechanic
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>>581491087
>why?
Every passive in this game reeks afterthought to fill in 4 buttons.
>okay we have the idea for the hero, here are two abilities and the ult, but we need a fourth button...
>I know! Give them a lazy unimaginative passive!
It's a lazy game design but worst of all it's BORING
Look at Lash. All his abilities synergise. He has no passives. 4 buttons work perfectly with each other in combos.
>>581491156
Tranny, can you read?
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>>581491640
I was talking to the anon above me saying passives are leagueshit, keep up.
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>>581491640
I literally main Celeste and I know her kit is impossible to balance. She's either shit or SS+ tier in a matter of changing 2 numbers.
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>>581488451
an anti heal hero
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>>581491701
true.
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>>581491087
I just want Pocket to be more difficult to play
Idk if I'm retarded but looking at his kit my first thought was that he'd be a difficult, kinda combo-y character but then I found him to be pretty easy and was disappointed
Also the Sniper character dawdling about in the sky roleplaying as an A10 is dumb
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>>581490917
>Silver could use a real fucking ult
Her ult is the only thing reliable in her kit.
>Graves's skulls could be easily replaced with something more interesting or useful
They are useful but it's an IQ test. Graves players that try to frontline vs Graves players that try to ambush.
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>>581491717
on the other hand, I get the impression that heroes like celeste with low gravity or venator being a full WD user were what they started with most likely mayhaps, perchance

>>581491859
celeste is not the first and is unlikely to be the last movement hero, on the other hand I think her inclusion is good so they can tackle these sorts of heroes in the beta and not after release
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>>581492082
Celeste's movement is fine (people complaining are shitters) but she doesn't neatly slot into any archtype. So abilities will either be tuned to do nothing or do too much. Dictionary overloaded kit.

If it were up to me I'd split her into two different characters.
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>>581491928
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>>581488178
>pic
I hate lol so much and am genuinely mad I fell for the hot girls when dota2 is such a better experience. Monsterchads keep winning.
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>>581491717
TBF infernuses afterburn is to be expected from a character like him and synergizes with his entire kit, but yeah every others like Mina are lazy as fuck where its just doing damage=moar damage

>>581491013
Mo and Krill, Abrams and Billy actually can do alot of tanking and making space but several items just shit on them if they try to frontline past a certain point such as siphon bullets and shit like spirit burn gives -70% healing and overall its impossible to reasonably protect against spirit damage bullshit because even spellbreaker feels like it does nothing
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can you believe it guys!
a deadlock content patch!...just a week away!
a deadlock content patch is in a week!..woohoo!
i am so happy about this information
...a deadlock content patch, just a week away! oh wow.
can you believe it! a deadlock content patch! just in a week!
it got here so fast!
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>>581492263
>she doesn't slot into an archetype

slippery skirmisher. has lich ult for objectives or punishing death balling teams. distinct from mina who is an aerial assassin. you need to treat deadlock like its own thing, it clearly doesn't slot into regular moba or shooter archetypes
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>>581492325
the characters need to shut the fuck up about abrams not dying when at best he has at best 10% damage resist before maxing his passive, something he should never do early.
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>>581492468
the archetypes slot into dota 2 archetypes...
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>>581492534
yea but this is dota3d, you gotta open your mind up to the next dimension
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>>581492278
>the anti heal hero is a hero that gets anti heal on a tier 3 of his ultimate
nyo
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>>581490917
>minas 2 is too good
>NOOO DONT GIVE THE HERO WITH THE LOWEST HP AN ESCAPE NO!!!
shut up Mina's escape is the least egregious escape in the game and actually makes sense for her to have it unlike Mo and Wraith
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>>581492683
You're right, anon
We should add Ana to the game
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>>581492875
who
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>>581492683
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>>581492875
with how retarded the heroes hps are? Unironically yes let me Nade the 7000 hp mo and 5000 hp warden with debuffs and constant shields
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>>581492468
The ult is doing too much. Take that away and she's basically an off tank.
>>581492534
Honestly Deadlock simply can not be balanced like DOTA 2. Take any concept like pos 1-5 and throw it in the trash. Not like it was any good anyway ragebait but also not
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Who's your new ban after the nerfs? Mine's Haze
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>>581493081
Mo and Krill
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>>581493081
i will never not ban billy until bashdown is reworked
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>>581492683
vindicta has antiheal on her 3
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>>581493016
>take away her kit and she's an off tank

she's budgeted around the lich ult
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>>581493150
reworked to what
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Reminder Mo and Krill used to become unburrowed if you heavy melee'd him but they removed it because counterplay isnt allowed
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I dont get why some characters like Mo and Krill who sits at a ~50% winrate at any given time get complained about and whined about how OP they are while characters like shiv, ivy, paige, seven, lash, viper are allowed to just run the meta and nobody bats an eye
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>everyone drops Warden
>he still is strong just not OP
heh
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>>581493389
Heavy Melee should cancel every ability
Also let everyone parry regardless of what they're doing
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>>581493389
psyop successful
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>>581493436
Because characters like Paige can be easily beaten and aren't annoying as fuck and some of those characters take at least SOME brain power you can reply with
>heh x takes skill heh snarky
all you want but Mo and Krill can be played with your asscheeks slamming on the keyboard walk forward press 1 to not even aim just heal fully a giant health pool without needing to buy green items press 2 to burrow and get giga resists for free and fly away for free NONE not a single one of his abilities requires a modicum of aim or thought just press them and get value for free he is the literal definition of a brainless character and i hate that shit
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>>581493436
Paige is a nasty little coward bitch especially when pushing the base and she's comfortably fllinging her shit from spawn
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>>581493761
They messed with the wrong team
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>>581493016
talking about character archetypes bwo not balance and farming prios.
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>>581493360
to it no longer stunning you in place for 5 seconds and no longer having a 20m wide dragdown aoe
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>>581493761
Isnt that kind of a lot of characters though? Like Seven lightning balls literally stop moving when they hit an enemy so you dont even need to worry about aiming them or overshooting your target
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all the mo hate in this general just proves how low elo the average poster is
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>>581494413
it's not a stun

>no dragdown

then he's a worse abrams
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>get put onto a team where pre-lobby everyone was joking
>everyone communicating
>someone on enemy team leaves
>game shuts down
>re-queue
>get put on a team where I'm the only one talking
>everyone skill is worse
nigger game. nigger devs. nigger players.
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>>581494446
Seven balls could have a range nerf DESU but I think he's fine as is.
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>>581493565
With what build? they literally nerfed all his core items.
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So let me get this straight they took away the high skill ceiling of gun lash, and buffed the low skill ceiling of spirit lash?
Are these devs retarded?
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>>581495648
cagemaxx support build
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>>581487563
make her a missing link fishman
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>>581495770
People complain about gun lash, what can you do?
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>>581495770
A guy no clipping in the skybox three times faster than Vin and shooting you for free is retarded, actually
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>>581495770
Gun Lash was karma for the Celeste agenda posters where people argued you could hit Light Eater from across the map. As a practical joke, you got a character that effectively did just that.
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A lot of people want redesign but I wonder how many VAs will be recasted either due to unavailability or something else
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>>581487673
Give her tits and then I'll agree.
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>>581496990
I really question Valve's decision making ability if they don't recast Viscous
There's no reason to have a talent like Yuri Lowenthal on if you're just gonna fuck up his voice with a filter
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>>581497526
i'm sure they can cast him on another entirely new hero, and then kill two birds with one stone when they call him in
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Vortex Web on the 'brams. Thoughts?
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>>581497742
You don't know Big Abe like that lil bro
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>>581495847
I would much rather play against gun lash than spirit lash.
>>581496141
>>581496738
Okay but they didn't need to buff his slam at all. If they left his slam untouched while leaving in the current nerfs he received he would've been perfectly balanced. Now he's just braindead and will be hit with nerfs that will leave him in a worse spot.
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After the Barrel changes I just have no idea how to build Holliday now every build on her kinda blows and you cant proc Spirit burn that easy anymore
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>>581497901
'brams is my most played character though...
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Silver exists to pop ult, grab the enemy's attention, and eat every CC and high value spell they have so your team can win after you're dead. I've cracked the code, she's basically Victor without a self res and much harder to play
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>>581498181
you mean like every other front liner?
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They should lower all ability damage and make all chars scale gun with spirit, so we can go back being a shooter not 3rd person spirit slop
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Gg fuckin easy
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>>581498272
Other frontliners actually do something
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>>581498386
she has a built in gap closer with an AOE disable. and it refreshes even.
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Why did they buff leech?
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>>581497942
>Now he's just braindead and will be hit with nerfs that will leave him in a worse spot.
That's the rite of passage.
Until the balance team stops terrorizing this game we'll be here on repeat.
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>>581498486
wow she can gap close so the enemies can kill her faster front liners are supposed to be tanky and actually do something you know
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>>581498582
>>581497942
>>581498659

I would love to see the neuron readout on your brains when you people post
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>>581498181
>>581498272
>>581498386
Why is she even classified as a frontline in the game files and matchmaking?
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>>581498324
We just had a patch where every gun hero was a spirit hero
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melees should steal unsecured souls
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>>581498859
doesn't matter what she's classified as, as long as her ult functions the way it does it's a big loud attention sponge and not much else
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Where is the calico bikini skin?
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Puckett has kinda grown on me, simply because he sometimes tells production to wake the fuck up.
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Just saw TF2 got an update and fell to my knees
Fucking TF2 is getting more action than Deadlock.
It's never been more over
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>>581499443
Yeah fair, he may be a clueless about the game but at least he's keeping the production team in check.
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>>581499646
it's a community event dumb dumb
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>>581499646
tf2 didnt get an update
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>>581497526
i'd rather they just hire random vtubers instead of the same 10 industry nepofaggots.

whoever at valve decided to hire mercer should be raped and clicked on with cultist sacrifice (nerfed for some reason lmao)
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>>581498867
a few OP 6k items not the same
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i'm still waiting for the bashdown rework idea
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>>581499819
>>581499830
It said new MvM missions at varying difficulties tho
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>>581499975
>We should make the dog shit last patch a permanent feature
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>>581499962
>vtumor opinion
Literally no one wants vtuber """talent""". Or YouTubers for that matter. Fucking Overwatch just had a streamer voice their new hero
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>>581500182
How do you fix spirit slop otherwise if it's balanced around them killing you in one combo?
>Oh shit they didn't die?
>Better buy more spirit!
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>>581499962
>whoever at valve decided to hire mercer should be raped
he's an amazing VA and drifter has one of the most iconic voice in the game cry about it /vt/ranny
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>>581500305
>How do we fix ability heroes being based around abilities
Have you ever played a game before
Do you not understand casters
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>>581499962
LESSE WATURE INSIDES LUK LIKE
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>>581500470
I understand it being cancer to play against a lash that stomps + lash + qsr + cold front + silence wave, 100 - 0
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>>581500686
Should've double jumped
Try buying a green for once
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>>581499052
>doesn't matter what she's classified as,
It does for the matchmaking purposes.
When queuing as Silver you could easily be thrown into comps where youre expected to be tanky and last more than 5 seconds in a fight, which she can't
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>>581499962
the absolute state of vniggers
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>>581500762
It also feels like ass to have a dog gun because all your damage is abilities, why even aim
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>>581500424
Honestly, /vg/ has memed about Drifter as long as he has been in the game simply due to that voice performance. Either absolute retardation or baiting if you think he did anything but provide good VA
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>>581500095
this obviously means the MvM update isn't happening this year
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I seh da enoomee
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eye vee died screamin...
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they gonnah behg
they gonnah screeeeam
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>>581501050
people meme about it because it's that bad.
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>>581501838
what about it is bad
>cajun accent
Blame the voice director, not the actor
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>>581499443
He's an old old esports head
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>>581501838
you are a soulless husk
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Macomb matters a lot to you, but to him it was just a fun time that will get lost in the ocean of memory. But if you find him… if he knows he got his hooks in you? You're going to be his hobby.
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>>581501838
NO ONE WILL MISS YOU
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>Sinclair hasn't been touched by any balance changes since December 2025
Imagine designing a hero so well-rounded, so synergetic, so complete, so perfect that he doesn't need any nerfs or buffs for almost a year and counting.
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>>581502089
That's what happens when you have utility while not being OP
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>>581502089
they're gonna rework the shit out of him
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>>581502089
GAWDpo....
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YOU, UHH, YOU GOT SOMETHIN' ON YA, MATE!
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>>581502089
I think the only thing he needs is to make the bolts more intuitive to aim or clear whether they'll hit or not. So many times I dodge a bolt that lands straight on me or vice versa and get hit by a bolt when I'm way above the actual explosion.
Also of course the actual models need a tuneup but that goes without saying.
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>>581489757
I'm not there yet but I'm starting to become a hater for some heroes. They're broken by nature and killing their numbers just makes them useless instead of balanced.
I want more impactful and fun inherent passives in the game but stuff like Celeste and Shiv movement has not worked out. I'm willing to let them try but it sucks.
Then Sinclair is a big one. They were not ready for the game. Their abilities aren't fun and are just jank. Their ult means they're either owning the game or useless.
Controversially I'd say Lash for his ult. The map is designed around Lash.
Vyper at least to replace screwjab. Boring ability but I'm also not a big Vy player so maybe they like it.
Haze not for any real reason, I just don't think her abilities match her lore.
Maybe Mirage. His passive is like the last holdout stupid as fuck gun passive
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>>581502513
>>581502513
>>581502513
>>581502513
>>581502513
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>>581502089
the actual super secret no invitation closed doors private build that the developers actually develop for is so different to the current build of deadlock that we have that there's no fucking point changing things meaningfully, hence why we haven't gotten any ACTUALLY big item changes, hero changes, map changes etc. for almost an entire year because deadlock is changing on the 24th
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Let's get along for these final days before Deadlock changes forever.
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Will they add sex in the new update?
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>>581502590
Bejita... I don't feel so good...
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>>581502659
No but, and I'm not supposed to leak this but fuck it.
They're adding a new feature where you, yes you, Anonymous, can be killed IRL if you make too many low effort posts on /dlg/
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>>581502561
5 lanes
10 vs 10
20 new Heroes
DEADLOCK 2
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>>581497742
Better items to build before it, if you really want to build it in a 60k slogfest go for it.
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>>581491928
That's supposed to be Venator but Pocket does it better while also being unkillable and doing more damage.
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>>581502371
All of the passives need to be removed besides maybe Abrams passive. They're all overpowered and take zero effort to use and just lead to more stat-check bullshit.
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>>581502885
>pve mode
>new hero remodels
thats it.



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