MCDS EDITIONprior >>581170390>What is WoW: Fivever?Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race: SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes September 17th, you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
Reminder that if you play alliance you are a faggot
tongue
should i buy 80 USD version? i wanna play new wc3 campaign
>>581181526i've been saying this for years and nobody listens to me
I need a duo to play with! You must be unemployed!
>Every Zone now looks like thisWe're coming home
I tried the german cheeseburger shaker fries yesterday shit was rancid
I hope this McDonalds "exploit" is large enough that Blizzard is forced to release a way for people to buy into the Beta at a similar price.Which would be ~$15 USD without SKY NIGGERS infecting your profile.
>>581181515>pathethicbro you're literally shaking typing you mispell the simplest things. seek help lol
this is how it is
Why is there almost no new info about PvP in Forever? In all the deep dives they mentioned almost nothing. Made even worse because in SoD there was always a unique world PvP running.
>>581181591Can I turn off the gas?
Can a horizontal fag explain to me why anyone would raid if there's no ilvl increase as an inventive?
>>581181535Actual pic of me and my faggot friends playing Alliance
>goat coomers not welcomeThank you, blizz.
>>581181664For fun, anon. It's a video game. Video games are fun. :)
classic bros, give it to me straight. did or did not ilvls exist in classic? did people use them?if not, how the fuck did you manage pugs?!
gay sex anyone
>>581181664ask GW2 players, that shit has been horizontal for like a decade now
>>581181664fun you fucking ape
>>581180620undead shoulders used to be bigger then they nerfed the shoulder sizethey bugged the orc shoulder sizes at one point and they were insanely tiny toocan someone give me a code now
>>581181630As if they don't know exactly what is happening. This is part of the marketing.
>>581181697Theyll show up eventually
The superior sky elves
>>581181664See the last thread.
>>581181727hunter t1 set was pretty much bis.same goes to priest t2 set.
>>581181756i think what happens is mcdonalds requires an aussie phone number tomorrow and the whole thing stops
>>581181785that's a bird
>>581181661Your sure can. But the people who hate it can only find recourse in being dishonest about it by suggesting that you'll be forced to use the new graphics settings. Because nallifags are seething mad that their game and /wowcg/ are fucking dead.
How WoW does talent trees throughout its entire life is bad. Talent trees suck and make balancing a nightmare when it should be simple.If you're going a specific spec you'll have 90% the same talents as everyone else doing that spec. The 10% difference doesn't change anything except for under the hood.Remove the talent tree, have it where you just pick a spec, and then you get all the additions and changes for that spec.
FUCK posted in the wrong threadanyone have an updated zip of the skelf slopGOD's work?
>ele shamans cant get lava burst and nature's swiftness togetherfor pvp, should you go down enh tree or resto tree? you've got 20 talent points after getting lava burst.
We're so fucking back!
>>581181735Yeah but in GW2 you can hit max level spend a couple of gold that you got while leveling on gear in the auction house to get 95% of the maximum power level available. Doing all the content is just for cosmetics and achievements
>>581181881we're going home (again)
>didnt include the McMethod for beta in the op
BUY THE ELFBUY THE ELFDO NOT BUY THE BURGERBUY THE ELF
>>581181735Everything about GW2 is garbage though
Why would I help h*m*ns with their trivial requests?I am an Arcanist of the High Order Skyborne who has lived for thousands of years - such matters are below me.
>>581181727ilvls existed in the data but was hidden from players. Addons showing it to players were not widely used during classic. In practical terms, ilvls did not exist during classic. This is fact.Pugs were handled very simply. You invited whatever class you needed. If someone was a shitter you put him on ignore and did not invite him again.Simple.
How do we stop parsers and GDKP fags from destroying this game?
>>581181763That depends on Choyna.Are draenei popular in Choyna?
>>581181763how though? the lore surrounding their addition to the game is probably the single biggest heel-turn in the history of the IP, damn near every corner of the lore was retconned in some capacity by the TBC goat lore.
based on all the (retail) class changes and spell additions, what's the current speculated class power rankings?
>>581181816I want to turn off the gas so I can see people easier in world pvp
>>581181906buy 8 burgers (do not buy elf)
>>581181952who the fuck cares about those second class citizens
>>581181934Bully them without using slurs and "problematic" language so they have a harder time reporting you.
>>581181934play on the RP servers
Need dwarf female to piss in my mouth
>>581181535That's right, and I'm gonna gape your green asshole wide open if I catch you outside your mud hut
So how many black npcs will be in the starting zone?
>>581181658PvP is a minigame. If we really are getting horizontal progression with many different unique items eventually the game is going to get to a point where balancing PvP just isn't plausible at all. So enjoy it while it lasts and remember that it's not meant to be some competitive e-sport in this version.
>>581181664ESO has sets. Top raid sets outperform others by 20%. People farm them.
>>581182026everyone on those servers is turbo cringe
>>581181923>In practical terms, ilvls did not exist during classic. This is fact.Like a lot of things, but to claim that "it wasn't a part of the default ui, therefore it didn't exist" is retarded.
>>581181550The new WC3 expansion is crazy good. I really can't believe how much work they put into it. The little bits of plague in Tirisfal Glades. The artistic direction is fantastic. I'd say they put dozens of new units in, like different types of Forsaken, villagers, etc. The only downside is that it plays more like Baldur's Gate or something since there's not really any base-building missions. There was only one so far that had an element of base building, I guess cause they think normies can't handle it? I really like all the new characters, the voice acting is great, and the whole thing feels like it came out of 20 years ago. A different era.
>addons are not bannedSucks. They were so close.
>>581181973>t lorevirginnot necessarily. Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde appear like male draenei just huge and green from the fel. female eredar models did NOT exist in anything pre TBC. they could just be brought up regardless and keep similar lore or some adjusted lore. KJ's and Archi's backstory was not expanded upon heavily.
>>581181934You can't, streamers and poop sockers without life will play 14 hours per day and complain three weeks later that there is nothing to do in forever
Why are people bitching about in-game skeletons so much
>>581182073it's on midnight's addon engine or whatever. weakauras doesn't work.
>>581182060This is what happens when you let people who are passionate about a game be the ones to make new shit for it. Please let them be the ones making WC4. It needs to be a close to WC3 as possible.
>>581182003Sky elves are tailored towards the Chinese. Just like belves were back in TBC.
>>581182059>it wasn't a part of the default ui, therefore it didn't existthis is true though, for all intents and purposes, it did not exist.
>>581182060Blizz employees have infiltrated the thread
>no more discussion about horizontal progression online in the last daydid they update the shill scripts? was it that obvious no one was falling for it?
>>581181664you think there's no ilvl increase? there will be just minimal.oldschool botscape is vertical progression masked as horizontal, it's just a very long curve of power increase and old "endgame" botscape content can be cheesed now with newer "endgame" botscape gear like inferno can be cheesednow obviously botscape already made this mistake so forever can easily avoid it now
>>581182059You are autistic. We know it existed. The question is if it existed as a metric when forming groups. It did not.
>>581182060definitely catering to first time WC3 players that saw it in blizzcon. moba like action
>>581181917That's how that picture looks.Lol what a delightfully bizarre juxtraposition in that image.It's like Blizzard is just telling me "Yes, we are winking and nudging to YOU Black Sun. This is for you to see."Very estoeric.
i'm nutting horizontally
>>581182143WeakAuras work, the dev team just stopped development because they would have to change stuff under the hood to do some stuff they used to do and didn't feel like it was worth it in the long run if Blizzard would inevitably break it again.
>>581182060People sleeping on the wc3 campaign when yeah it's surprisingly good. 35+ hours it took me on hard and it was really challenging.
Remember it's the mentally ill retail tranny janny faggot baking and spamming the awful blue ai slop, he needs to be taken behind the wood shed and two slugs put in his head, because defending promoting this retail garbage proves you've always hated this franchise, this mentally ill nigger has been spamming the same shit for 72 hours straight, the same literal spam in every new thread, nothing cool gets posted in these threads because of him and his mentally ill troon erp fetish he forces on anons who just want to talk about the game
>>581182060even the direction of the cutscenes was way better than I was expecting, that shot where garek falls over and dies hearing the captains words in his memory then cuts to black was legitimately fucking KINO. Where the fuck have the people that made this been working all these years? Did Metzen write it or what, has anyone checked the credits?
>>581182167i have no idea what it means so i didnt engage
have you guys seen the le epic reddit post about how some sd textures are just being put over retail skeletons?
does resto shaman just spam chain heal? If so I'm playing that, I love chain heal.
Holy fuck I'm gonna sink so many hours into this shit. I really hope it's good, and more importantly stays good. I know, modern blizzard but still... Just let me hope....
forever is going to have built in damage meters/threat meters and cooldowns /weakauras
>>581181664gear grinding is gay.i just want to rp and kill playersgoto retail if you want to fight robots
>>581182060I'll admit to it being good but I am pretty assmad that there is no base building. It's essentially just an RPG, which is pretty impressive in a sense, but not what I want from WC3.
>>581182267
>>581182231I'm only going to ask this once more: Why did you fail to uphold your promise? You told me I would be allowed to meet the elves. I do not appreciate your ruse. I, and the entire White Order, will come down on you in full force of you do not make good on your word.
>>581182291yes
>>581181473SOVFUL EDITION!Sex with blue maccas elves!
>>581182171oldschool botscape is vertical progression masked as horizontaltrvke
>>581182252>>581182245I know. It's so good. I was wondering that too. They just come in and invent all these great characters and stories that feel like they're right out of the original WC3 instead of all the garbage that's been put in WoW for 20 years. Maybe they found some of Metzen's old notes before he became a hack.
>>581182267Yeah seems like its a known bug they're working on when switching between HD/SD models without restarting the games they're bugging out and the animations too.>>581182349Yup. Bugged saw a thread with Aggrend talking agbout it on twitter
I am going to play a Troll Shaman
>>581182349ngl I kind of like how left looks...
>>581182176>metric when forming groupsNeither did people care about optimal group comp and bis gear.Doesn't change anything about the fact that ilvl did exist because it's one of the bulding stones of the game's system.
>>581181473WoW Forever = vanilla forever2028= TBC forever2030 = wrath foreverthe cycle repeats. Horizontal progression doesn't exist. It is antithetical to the idea of a roleplaying game. Ever since a bunch of WoW players went to runescape, they have developed this misconception that this will fix WoW. Both games are fundamentally designed differently. You have to go back to the rulebook and start from scratch to design something closer to old school runescape. People forget how long it takes to max in runescape. That's the only reason why you want to do horizontal progression is because you still have a longterm vertical progression of XP and skills.
>>581182124They are Chinese.
>>581181952>Are draenei popular in Choyna?Draenei are popular wherever heterosexual men exist. Which explains why /vg/ is so against them.
>>581182081KJ and Archimonde were demon lords pre-TBC. They weren't individuals of an alien race that became le evil wizards. This is what I am talking about, TBC completely flipped the table on wow lore into being quasi-science fiction. The only comparable example I can think of is going from OG Dragon Ball to Z, where suddenly Goku is a fucking alien and the story becomes a fucking galaxy trekking adventure to other planets when previously it was a low fantasy chinese folklore plot.
>>581182349>>581182387i really dont give a fuck about what everyone complains about guyslike im glad its a bug so people will be happy but man do i not really give a fuck either waygame looks fun
>Not a single BIPOC/tranny character added to WC3 or Classic+Apologize to /ourguy/
>>581182267yeah it makes me angry because it seems like this was the case back in wod or something and they never fixed it so i'm now convinced they won't fix it in forever.
>>581182387Were the elves bugged too because nothing changed when people toggled the graphics
>>581182465Kill yourself
>>581182338>there is no base building. It's essentially just an RPG, which is pretty impressive in a sense, but not what I want from WC3.What? At least a third of missions in WC3 always have been about controlling your hero and a couple units through some kind of scenario
>>581182143>>581182243It's called Meekauras now btw.At least as far as retail goes.IIR Weakaura dev said he will continue developing WA for classic, but I don't know if he dropped that as well or if Forever will have the same limitations as retail, therefore no WA...
>>581182338Yeah, I feel the same way. I'd love it if there were base building missions. These kind of missions were actually my least favorite in the original WC3 campaign and especially in Frozen Throne. They have a lot more depth here though with the RPG elements and the difficulty is what kept me engaged. It really felt like classic Baldur's Gate to me, wandering through the woods of Tirisfal with just a couple heroes doing quests.
>>581182349I just don't understand why they had to do this. Isn't it more work? The Classic models are literally all right there in Era and the Elf model is right there on TBC.>start making Forever>leave vanilla models there>add in elf model and paint it blue>create toggle>add in retail models and paint the elf blue>redo the bouncy animations for HD models, leave the animations on classic models alone>???>profitThe fact that they reskinned retail models means they did even more work than they needed to. Fucking Turtle and Ascension got both classic and retail models in their games with a toggle/patch. Why couldn't Blizzard?
>>581182267We revealed it and covered it here first! Live on /wowfg/!
>>581182405Autistic.
>>581182487Damn I'm just gonna have to settle for seeing Bloodelves in classic.
>>581182250>Remember it's the mentally ill retail tranny janny faggot baking and spamming the awful blue ai slop, he needs to be taken behind the wood shed and two slugs put in his head, because defending promoting this retail garbage proves you've always hated this franchise, this mentally ill nigger has been spamming the same shit for 72 hours straight, the same literal spam in every new thread, nothing cool gets posted in these threads because of him and his mentally ill troon erp fetish he forces on anons who just want to talk about the gameBuy sex elves.Play sex elves.
>>581182475what the actual fuck. This can't be true. Probably will be fixed by Beta's End.Look how much better the character looks on the right.
>>581182590It's a bug.
>>581182538no it was being talked about 5 days ago at blizzcon already it's a bug
>>581182494>a thirdExactly. The new campaign is missing the other two thirds.
So are the models bugged and will be fixed or intended?
If you don't put your legacy into honor gain you are literally DUMB and STUPID don't say I didn't warn you
>>581182654>So are the models buggedyes
>>581182250Yup, I reported him for avatarfagging 10 times and then I got banned literally 15 minutes later for saying "tranny" in a completely different thread. He's 100% a janny. I fucking hate this website.
>inv
>>581182554Honestly out of all the model updates, Draenei and BE were light years better than the original races. I can see wanting to use SD models for the OG 8. I can't see it for either of them. They came out fantastic.
>>581181735GW2 has sets for soloing, sets for survivability if no healer, sets for max dps if you have a lot of healing and can afford to shed survivability, etc. They're all roughly the same power level but excel at different things.
>>581182690is the australian mcdonalds bugged and will it be fixed or intended?
>>581182506Hope the dev stays away. Don't need that shit.
>>581181906Nevermind the Elf, buy me the tabard. For Lordaeron!
>>581182250its a wpsg troon actually
>>581182539Nah you're just being a disingenuous fag.
>Sarjeep spammer keeps getting nuked and claiming jannies are out to get him and it's the blue AI elf spammerlmfao
>>581182654I'm sure Blizzard will fix it instead of never fixing it and disabling it 2 months later due to "player metrics show it was rarely used"
>>581182060I boughted with 4ever and playing the RoC campaign for the first time. Kinda kino. Got hardfiltered by the "Frostmourne" mission and had to switch to normal and I peaked masters in sc2
>>581182737>Beta keys from mcdonalds are problematic somehowholy take your meds tranny
>>581182415I have no doubt they will do northrend as a zone that is a part of the world and we fight the lich king again but in vanilla.
>>581182804WILL IT BE FIXED OR INTENDED???
>>581182506>if Forever will have the same limitations as retailIt will. This is confirmed. It also won't make a difference because there's never going to be a raid where you need WA's to do the kind of shit that pushed Blizzard far enough to break it in the first place. The content will never be that hard.
>>581182708In a world where everyone performs well above the DPS required for the boss and are within 100 DPS of each other, what then?Do grey parsers still not get invited?
how are shamans looking for pvp? what's the build move
>>581182470he was not called a demon lord. he was only referred to as "great one" or lord achimonde. the only issue is that there are no other eredar that look similar to him or KJ in game just dreadlords. TBC did turn the setting into having sci fi elements and I'm not the biggest fan of that but that could also be adjusted
>>581182737>australia gets mcdicks codes for beta access and not americans
This whole McDonalds exploit thing is wild lol. Just pure whimsical shenanigans
>>581182824I could see them having Arthas and massive waves of Scourge invading instead. Could be a neat event.
>>581182872Enhancement bonking
>>581182465Yeah I think I will stick with a random guild from the world chat.
>>581182060It's cringe because it's all Hero RPGslop instead of an RTS campaign.
>>581182872>how are shamans looking for pvp?Enhance: get kited to death most of the time. Absolutely fucking ANNIHILATE some nigger ever once in a while.Don't know about ele because ele is gay.
>>581182848Up to Mcdicks if they want to fix it. Blizzard already made their money selling them the keys.
Being able to use the old animations at least makes most of the new models tolerable. The real issue with them wasn't the looks, it was the horrifically cartoony bouncing and shit.Male Tauren are still fucked regardless though, lol.
>>581182914Capitalism is A REAL ECONOMIC SYSTEM AND NOT A JOKE!!!
The Australian Macca's app is barely functional and literally doesn't have anywhere to store a phone number in your profile. They're not capable of restricting it and would have to end the promotion entirely
Forever here we come!
>>581182860Personally, I have never used WA for raid mechanics solving, but for convenience and simply making the UI pretty.While I realize I could do it with a custom addon (especially now with AI), being able to just position things and see what they look like in real time was the best.
>>581182914Shits all scripted to affect you on a mental level. All the digital glitches are done on purpose. Because the value of a product is next to worthless to its consumer, who is more or less had his soul confined to a robot against its will and is being held at gunpoint by an occupying force of extra terrestrials who take everything valuable.
>>581182872We'll tell you when we get on beta, you... do have a beta key, don't you?
>>581182952I like the bouncing models. I hope the new animations are toggleable.
>>581182983sneed tranny
>The hardcore panel was just Aggrend shouting out his streamer bros for 50 minutes>All they told ud is we will get a layering warning when inside a cave
>every beta test in the history of the company has been friends/family invites and lucky few who got selected from random applications>classic beta was almost entirely streamers with only like a dozen normal peopleSo why is Blizzard deciding now of all times to give us a paid beta that literally millions of people are going to sign up for? Especially considering this is a brand new game and people were clamoring for a fresh blind experience to C+ and the "unsolved game."
>>581182952Speaking of which, do HD femdwarves tits bounce like they did in vanilla?
You only have 10LP to spend per character at lvl60. How do you allocate yours?For me it's 5 in honor, 3x1 in fly+reagent+study and 2 in permanence or performance bonus (not sure what that last one is, apparently it's something that was in sod?)
>>581182059you fucking idiot nobody is saying ilvl didnt exist just that it wasnt used by players. i hope the language preferences are strong in forever so i dont have to play with esl retards
>>581183006>not using this opportunity to destroy a delicate supply chain beyond repair
>>581183006South Park Episode Tier.... stuff LOL
>>581182701He'll ban you if you start baking too, he's a completely mentally ill control freak that should have been kicked off the mod team several years ago
Any codes you fatasses? I don't wanna pay Blizz a single penny for a fucking beta but still want to play. FUCK.
>>581182878There eredar were demons by default pre-TBC. Archimonde being presumably the most powerful eredar means he is a demon lord. TBC is what changed eredar from being demons of literal hell into a race of space aliens. Archimonde was basically Lucifer and all the various demons his minions from hell, which is infinitely better than having them be space aliens that became "corrupted" by a vague cosmic force.
>>581183015Fortunately there are a million other add-ons that have filled the gap. Including very nice looking resource/CD tracking add-ons that will be easy to port over. Funnily enough I only found out about it recently myself because I watched the RWF for the first time ever and saw players using what looked like WA's, and was confused because I also thought that they had been complete destroyed since I haven't played since Legion and only had secondhand knowledge.
>>581182952You just don’t stutter step with old models. That was a change they did on purpose to give adhd timmies something to do while in their afk phase of rotation. Thats like swirly ball tier. The old models are literally perfect, look at the facial expressions. Soul. Passion. Creativity. New faces are designed to be like as inoffensive as possible so that you keep logging in to clear your garrison.
>>581183171Time to buy the Goyim pass
>>581183091i think they had an internal friends and family beta already and this is a stress test / publicity. it's 50 days until release. it's not a "beta".
Christ on a fucking bike there's spergs STILL arguing about the ilvl shit in vanilla
>>581183091Profit. They realised people will pay for beta access so they chose to sell it. Simple as.
>>581183171Just give Mcdonalds $7
>>581183091free money
Which is better for PvP?
was there any additional info or insight given on how realmless will work?I want to take off wed->fri for the launch but am considering just skipping the first day in fear that it'll be like classic launch where people were stuck in queues all dayI have to hope that it'll just be them generating a gorillion shards as people login and then just deleting/merging them as people log out/in constantly
wow classic era>gym arcs>getting your life together>chasing money and womenwow forever era>acceptance>dad bods>getting a fat lazy millennial goth wife who games all day and fucks youthis is a very high iq post btw
>>581183242Sex
>>581183131This whole argument started as a simple question "did ilvl exist in vanilla?" because ilvl will now be shown on items by default.Too bad the game won't have dumbest gorilla nigger preferences, so I will unfortunately run into dumb gorilla niggers such as yourself.
>>581183131this lunacy started 2 threads ago with anon asking what the motivation to run content is in a horizontal progression system without ilvl upgrades, and a bunch of people replying "classic doesn't have ilvl" pretending they didn't understand what he meant so they didn't have to answer the question
I will still dungeon spam i dont care if it gives little xp
>>581183294>it'll be like classic launch where people were stuck in queues all dayBrother you already know that's going to happen. It's a guarantee
>>581183242>glasses>short hair>even thicker thighsHoly FUCK. Slopchad, you've out done yourself. I want to make her my wife.
>>581181973The ship has sailed, the canon won't change just because you play an expansion without them as a playable race. All you can do is pray for even more retcons that will be even dumber by necessity.
>>581183117Luremaster is broken wtf
>>581183091>paid betayou just answered yourself
>>581183259top, we already discussed this
>>581182952I generally prefer the new models too but the textures on some of them are kinda rough. I really don't like the super pronounced lips on night elf females for example, it makes them look like they are wearing heavy makeup or something.
>>581183091To test engagement, prove interest to Activision, generate easy money. As scummy as it all seems on the surface; you won't fight for a name with last names, you'll be the same level as everyone else since beta resets; and you'll start when everyone starts since no early access. It's just business.
>>581183184it was not vague. sargeras was shown as the leader of the burning legion. they were listed under him. sargeras backstory was not established at this point. not retconned into being corrupted by the nathrezim. we did not know specifically yet. there was no "hell". the lore can be adjusted but we don't know if blizz would change it that heavily yet. personally i expect draenei to be in the first expansion as alliance need an additional shaman classi am an extreme wow lore nerd virgin
>>581183306forever era MOGS classic era btw if you reply to this post the gods of fat wives will smile upon you and give you a lazy pawg gf but only if you reply
>>581183097a fellow man of culture?
Remove the Dwarf Treasure finding Racial and replace it with a Gem Finding racial that will behave like the Tauren Herb based one. Then there is a reason to make a Dwarf in Forever beyond the Shaman.
>>581183306>went to the gym at 5am>got home>boughted skelf + beta edition>would quite like a euro chubby (not american fat) millennial goth wife
>>581183354
>>581183349there's no dungeon finder. You'll have to exit the dungeon and probably wait for a cooldown I assume. Not sure how it works in Classic.
Why the fuck is there no boob slider after all these years
>>581183117this system is such an obviously bad ideaeither it is easily changed and becomes really annoying and you switch every time you blow your noseor it isn't easily changed and you're unnecessarily gimped in certain content for no reason
>>581181697>>581181763They better, I'm so tired that one of the best fantasy races has been stuck in a shit game I don't want to play for so long.
>>581183326start up gemini and translate the post below into spanish. maybe then youll see what a fucking dunce you are. >>581181727
bros...
>>581183360I think that's a different slopper, but yes, it does make my dick very hard.
how long until Forever gets its own $100 shop mounthow long until sparkly chinese dragons returnhow long until celestial pony returns
>>581183416Honestly I am apprehensive about things and concerned, but I am open to trusting Fatgrend and Kris. I think I will buy the 60 dollar package (wanted the elf moonkin anyways and with game time it's basically just paying 15 dollars for the beta). If Blizzard is actually on the right track to making good decisions and can make this a game worth playing I will be fine with supporting them. But the instant I see some stupid ass shit I'm off the ship and never looking back at this company again. This will be the last straw (I thought sneedolands was the last straw, but Ploos is giving me unwarranted hope).
>>581183551Theyre trying to be a bit classier about poverty
>>581183586>Diablo 4
>>581183294The play is to take friday off and following monday
>Not sure how it works in Classicwhy is classic+ filled with fucking retail players, it's going to end up exactly like retail at this rate
>>581183259bottom, we already discussed this
>>581182896>he doesn't know
>>581181106Got beta for free not my problemdont care about the retarded elves
>>581183586>he didn't 100 parse total gametime and WoW time since 2005What a shitter lmao
>>581183586>t never bought gold in classicget owned nerds
>>581183659Can you actually reply to people instead of being a faggot?
>>581183621My bets are 1. 2 years2. 3 years3. 3.5 years
>>581183659Its the new shiny toy. Retailfags will quit after 3 months and then the true kino will begin
Will Sylvanas look like this in Forever?
>>581183586>your account can legally vote and drinkThey will still ask you for photo id btw
>>581183259top, but just take bane over reachyou are going to get kited hard anyway
Is it normal to announce the next big genre defining 20+ years of content MMO 7 weeks before its out?
>>581183639nta but i don't even have diablo 4 installed, i never paid for it, and i never played the beta, but I have 20th percentile parse for diablo 4 played time and for some reason don't have diablo 3 at all even though I spent like 300 hours in that game.
>>581183586this nigga played diablo 4 and 3 lmao
will it be back in forever?
>>581183659Hopefully all the retoilet nigger faggot degenerates are filtered by the leveling process and gone by december
>>581183773No. They're feeling pretty confident in it i guess
is Victus a good last name?
>>581183586Thoughts on Diablo 4 being rugpulled?
Soon
>>581183795i actually liked 3 more than 4
>>581183773They’re scared of clashing with GTA 6 so needed to launch fastIt might explain lack of classic models ui and animations
>>581183521>the year is 2027>wow forever has been out for 4 months>you started listening to mike mentzer and 2 works outs a week>you started dating a 31 year old woman who buys spells off etsy and reads ACOTAR books>she is a pear shaped bbw who is chubby and used to be a complete whore>she tried streaming on twitch but it didnt work so now she has a ton of gaming merch >she cosplays and lets you fuck her in the ass>she wants to hangout 24/7, gets mad when youre at the gym and grinds wow with you>life is above average>and thats not bad
this new warcraft campaign is hard as fuck
I'm going to sell Leeroy Jenkins for 10000 USD
>>581183659Most people who are the target audience for this have never played Vanilla, never played private servers, and maybe dropped out of Classic 2019 before hitting max level because they saw it was a solved game and the entire marketing was streamers spamming dungeons to 60. This is for those people. Those people who started in TBC, but quit by Cata. Those wrathbabies who turned their noses up at Pandas. Those people who stuck with the game all the way through Legion, but BFA killed them.
>>581183795Don't act like you didn't play D3 at launch anon
>>581183117Well Rested and Field guide.yes, I left 2 points.
>>581183773It’ll probably be shit let’s be real here. Expectations have never been lower. Studios want you to LOG IN because when you LOG IN you’re more likely to stay subbed. The desire to KEEP YOUR SUB meant that the desire to CREATE AN ENTERTAINING VIDEO GAME wasn’t a pillar of their design philosophy. The 90s and early 10s were a different time period where it was more of an “anything goes” situation. Lol, listen to this. Our governments saw such an important value in world of Warcraft that they personally funded the fiber optic cables necessary to play with lower ping. Do you enjoy the men with guns telling you to play world of Warcraft retail, because that even sounds like a good situation to be in.
>>581183935what about people like >>581183586
I wonder if you get name reservation priviles with the maccas beta
>>581183916>and reads ACOTAR booksNo. Nope. Nuh-uh. This is where I draw the fucking line.
>>581183928I was thinking of getting the 80 usd bundle...
>>581184013how bad are they anon
>>581183117It's capped at 16 spendable points for launch, but you can gain up to 65 atm>>581183561They will uncap it at some point and you will be able to spend more points.
>>581183447I think the cleanest way to implement them would be to retcon the broken draenei/lost one tribes we see in classic to not be solely mutated freaks but a mix of all the various stages of draenei from intact to degenerated. From there you could easy write in some reason for them to join the alliance, and they would be more predisposed to shamanism from that origin as well. I never liked the draenei as the maximal light wielding paladins either, it severely undermined human's position as paladins. And obviously, naaru are the stupidest shit ever written and should never be included.
>>581183737they used holly as nose model?
>>581183908GTA 6 doesn't come out on PC and it doesn't provide a time sink like WoW. If you play a campaign in a rockstar game and do everything for a few hundred hours, that is nothing compared to the time spent in WoW. Most players don't even do the whole story in those games.
>>581183623I haven't had faith in Blizz in a long time, but the reveal sparked it, and that snowball has been rolling since. I genuinely do believe this shit is going to be straight fire; there's a lot of decisions made on how to handle systems, visuals, content that reveal a hindsight heretofore unseen with Blizz.I think they know second chances like this never happen and I don't imagine they want to squander it.
>>581183992It's just a beta key, so no.
>>58118403630 days gametime when it launchesmonth long beta+wc3 new campaignand new racekinda worth desu
>read official forums>there's a non-zero group of players angry that WoD Classic isn't happeningThis is extremely hilarious to me, how did they ever think it would happen?
>>581183582This whole argument started long before this specific post you linked like the disingenuous fag you are.
>>581184037they're just romance books where the female characters are not really but sort of raped every few chapters
alright, going to peek my head into Hardcore Classic right now /v/ros.
>>581184036just get the $10 big mac meal for beta access.
is the beta for name reservations or does that come later?
Choosing faction is the worst thing about wow because I don't know which side I want to choose
>>581183737Schnoz is a bit large but she looks good. It was so refreshing to see her as a ruthless and competent leader again instead of some marvel anti-hero bullshit she turned into in retail.
>>581183992I'm wondering if us maccas bros can even play skyborne in the beta
>>581184161https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roMWEeV2P4U
>>581184036If you like WC3 at all the new campaign is absolutely worth getting. Even if you've never played WC3, I highly recommend it, but you'll probably have to play on easy mode because they actually made it hard surprisingly.
>>581184097Lol this isn’t a second chance. Theyre just releasing another expansion. Literally the only difference is that you can’t copy your character to the new game. This game is made by the same people selling you pony mounts and giving us non binary gender sliders. All they’ve got going for them is a larger than average budget.
>>581184161I'm actually surprised they're still splitting factions in 2027
>>581183242Requesting in in a tasteful, form-fitting, grey turtleneck sweater with a brown plaid short skirt and black thigh highs. Perhaps even hugging the book she's been reading against her dainty chest.
>>581184161alliance for variety and not being a mudhut dweller, horde for blue elves or undead pally because literally nobody will be playing orc, tauren, or troll
>>581184215this song never actually plays for more than like 10 seconds and it's always too quiet. God damn is it good though.
for no reason at all i want to push an angle that wow forever players are>chads>enjoying their goyslop in complete acceptance but in a cool post irony way>love fat women>are very cool>like hegel what do we think
Are people on NA friendly or are they as mean as people on 4chins
>>581184103imagine wanting to play that race
Being forced to play on a pvp server with a bunch of carebears and dadgamers.Best class to help out?Mage for the insane CC potential or paladin for dispels, freedom/protection?Just play as a herd?
>>581184304The worst and meanest mmo experience i've ever had was on a mixed asian server, that's all i'm saying
>i want to play alliance>my 'guild' is currently voting to play horde
I hope and I pray that they let Anya be a huge part of WoW Forever. Best new WarCraft character in 20 years.
>>581184297There's nothing more Chad than enjoying yourself and being generally happy about the situation
>>581184324OH MY HECKIN SCIENCEis that???ISTHAT A BLOOD ELF???IN CLASSIC?AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>581184304It depends on how many dads and tourists come around. The core of WoW is very toxic, NA maybe being the least.
>vanilla reskin for $15/monthlmao who the fuck is left that would pay this? Sure as fuck isn't going to bring in new customers.Also the blatant 'buy mcdonalds goy' spam posts have peaked and I'll gladly take the 3 day I'm sure I'll get for reporting this shit the mods are paid to post.
>>581184103I'm surprised they actually fixed it so the bundled gametime activates when the game comes out, instead of getting burned up immediately like the retail expansions' deluxe editions usually do.
>>581181526fpbp
>>581184304wow players are autistically nice, people love helping and enjoy making friends guilds are very much like thiseven >>581184325 mentions carebars and dad gamers also >>581184325 if you wanna own in pvp rogue is good, maybe lock too,
>>581184097t b h the new WC3 campaign converted my skepticism into pure hopium, shit was infinitely better than anything I imagined blizz to be capable of making in current year. I don't know if Asha whipped their asses or what but they somehow wrote a legitimately good warcraft story and made good gameplay for it for the first time in at least 10 years. What a wild timeline.
Is Victus a good last name or should I keep workshopping
This is ridiculous over a beta code, not to mention an absolute waste of labour and food. Offering to shout someone lunch is much better than whatever this loser has conjured up for a level 20 character on beta. Having people across the world ordering food with no intention of having it picked it up just fucks over australians for their own selfish gain. Such an unbelievable waste
>blizz breaks the old models animations and makes them super jank on purpose>people eventually all toggle them off for this reason>claim a year later no one uses the toggle and so they remove itthis literally already happened in retail btw. wod introduced the new models and had a toggle for old models that worked perfectly. legion "broke" the toggle and made the animations extremely jank (also disabled it entirely for nelves because they were too lazy to make SD demon hunters). then they removed the toggle entirely in bfa. they werent even going to add the toggle period until streamers who got shown forever early all complained. so now they're going to speedrun breaking it again. also skyborn won't have an SD toggle and neither will their mounts or druid forms. all the new models like undead paladin mount, the mobs in the new zones, etc. will be retail models and have no toggle either. so even without the animation jank using the SD toggle is going to be super jarring and look like shit clashing with everything else. as they add new content it will also all be retail style HD models and make using the SD toggle more and more jarring and out of place. allowing blizz to easily remove it completely a year from now. welcome to the retail- experience forever bros.
>friends want me to play this and horde>No cute girl races for hordeWhat do
>>581184072lowkeynuinely i like the naaru. the problem with that is that the draenei we see were ones that were assisting illidans forces in outland. now they did retcon akama's appearance in wc3 but having them look... like that... and then a sudden shift needs some sort of justification. how tbc rolled it out was a huge retcon and not many people liked it at launch but over time people came to accept them. how to address this cleanly? not sure.back to the naaru I like it as a concept but this also raises the stakes a bit too much where now the stories and gameplay isn't at "floor level" and shit starts to escalate far too much. the problem that NEEDS to be addressed at some point is KJ and Sargeras which are the overaching big bads of the entire wow narrative. they can push it off for a few years but they'll have to crack that egg at some point
im just gonna have a blizz employee give me a code
>>581184448wall of text doomerism didnt read
>>581184458>No cute girl races for hordebro, your undead cutie gf?
>>581184458>>No cute girl races for hordeYou got the sex elves.
>>581184354Then find a new guild
>>581184269
>mfw 99% of this general fucks off 2 weeks after launch
>>581184378thats my thought here>not arguing over if the game is good>enjoying it>fat wife maxxing>eats a lot >OH ITS SLOP YOU CANT ENJ->doesnt caretotal fat asshole victory
kinda wanna play undead warlockkinda wanna play undead roguekinda wanna play undead shadow priestkinda wanna play undead paladinkinda wanna play night elf (male) feral druidwhat do
>>581184212fuuuuck wife material
>>581184396>be Blizzard intern>get hired to write the story for the new WC3 campaign>knock over an old cabinet while chugging my onions mocha latte>find dusty old drafts of Metzen's explaining the story of Garek BandarionThat'll do pig. That'll do.
>>581184534My fucking God. It's perfect. She's definitely my wife now.
>Skybo-- I mean High Elves in Warcraft 3?#Nochanges
>>581184580I can tell you've never been with a fat chick.
>>581184419i just ordered a bunch of sauce packets. no waste.
shamans get>insta-cast ghostwolf that can be used indoors>summon all 4 totems at once>lava burst>1s faster cast on lightning bolt / chain lightning>earthbind totem immobilizing in place for 5s>ability to be played on an unpopular alliance race, meaning you'll be popular and wanted everywhereeatin good
>>581184304WoW players are exceptionally nice it's great. Every day I'm in a guild I have to fight the urge to be despicable and crass. It softens me up a bit. You want to throw in a :) every now and then. Join a guild that advertises itself as "social" and you'll be alright.
if the beta sucks, at least i saved 53 dollars buying a big mac instead
>>581184629>$10 in saucekek
>>581184628ive probably been with 30-40 fat women alone ive fucked up to 400lbs, however i mostly fuck skinny women just as there are more of them on average
so is the new wc3 campaign...good?
>>581184589Night Elf (female) Feral Druid.
>>581184698It's so good it's making me question what the fuck happened to retail for the last 5+ expansions
>>581184417We'd need to know the first name to really make an assessment, and I know you don't want to risk that here. I wouldn't worry so much about the last name; if you can't think of something good you can always hide it and NPCs will refer to you by your first name anyway
I was invited to classic beta but haven't received anything yet for WoWF.....
we are in herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBNEI-G_ofM
>>581184645>modern mmo player thinks being desired by Timmy the raid leader is interesting Nah that’s not there’s no game there. Timmy isn’t interested in trading.
>rogues get a 20% energy reduction>warriors get a 40% rage reduction
>>581184304If you want to be a good player you are going to deal with a lot of people who have the same sensibilities as 4chan (when it comes to humor and their lack of filter). Like every world first guild when they aren't being watched are dropping n bombs and joking around with the lads, it's a very "bro" culture.Then you have the "think they are good, but are actually just toxic assholes" crowd like that one classic guild that got a lot of attention recently. They think they are god's gift to WoW, but have them PvP an actual R1 Glad or put them in a real raiding scenario and they tear apart like tissue paper. These are the people you do not want to be around. They are extremely awful to others and towards themselves, vehemently racist at all times (if you care about that), will Doxx you, will threaten you, will gangstalk you, etc. These people need to be culled.Then you have the dad gamers/rpers/cuddlecore trannies who all sort of have different personalities, but will all still generally be nice and helpful while also sort of sucking generally at the game. These are your stereotypical serial levelers and such. The dad gamers and dad roleplayers are the best ones to be around imo if you want a more casual playstyle.
>>581184698Yes, it's the greatest new Blizzard content in decades.
>>581184698Undead kino unironically
>>581184480I think people would be perfectly accepting of a hard retcon with zero or minimal explanation for having attractive goats among the degenerated draenei tribes on azeroth because those scattered tribes aren't important to anything else going on and people want hot playable characters.I don't think they need to address KJ much less Sargeras any more than 40k had to "address" the chaos gods. Their ideal position in the setting is as a distant and impossibly powerful untouchable antagonistic force. Having KJ or anyone higher powerlevel get directly involved in events serves to accomplish literally nothing except cheapening them.
>>581184625The definitive graphics talking heads and unit portraits look good.
>>581184845>those blocky armorsS O V L
>>581184854Rope tourist
>>581184838Rogues get energy for free by existing, warriors have to earn rage. Fair
>>581184845whys this look like shit
>>581184458Buy the elf and develop a fetish where orc men spit on you
>>581184448Not reading all that.
>>581184948rage is more impactful holistically
>>581184838These racials are kinda funny because that’s literally like they changed the passive racial into an active. It does essentially the same exact thing as sword specialization and expanded mind, im betting if you recorded the 5min of each they’d be preforming like almost identically.
>>581184480>naaru is kidnapped, tortured, and raped by belf niggers all expansion>turned into a raid boss>we attack it until it gives into depression and concludes that all life exists solely to accelerate the heat death of the universe through increasing universal entropy>expansion ends by the belf rapists saying WOW the sunwell i am so blessed! and not evil anymore! wow! *walks away with absolutely no punishment*i'm still so mad
>>581184698It's to Warcraft Forever, what Warcraft 3 was to World of Warcraft.It plays more like Rexxar's campaign, Hero focused instead of RTS; if you don't want to $ it, it makes for a great watch too.
>>581181535Dont worry. I like my factions to be interesting so I cant play alliance.
>>581185008PvP little bro
>>581184751When are they sending out codes?
>>581184297my wife is not fat, she's Tall and elegant.
>>581184698Kinda but it's not worth the asking price
Bros...I fucked up
>>581184960It's the same hue as Eastern Plaguelands, tardo.
>>581185008Active abilities are way more impactful in pvp because you don't beat on each other like target dummies
>>581185057buy the australian big maccodes are not guaranteed>>581185083wtf did you order
>>581185023that glowing windchime was asking for it
>>581185083order one more sauce packet ASAPdon't do big mac sauce, they have to prepare it separately
>>581182878>there are no other eredar that look similar to him or KJ in game just dreadlordThere are generic Eredar Warlock creeps in TFT.>sci fi elementsBecause orcs being alien invaders didn't tip you off?
>hey anon...you're getting wow forever right?>did you see the cool armor at the announcement, i think i should cosplay sometime>are we picking horde or alliance and should i order pizza for launch night
>>581185083I thought you said cunts not brosAre you even a real Aussie or is your culture just dying quickly?
>>581185083write an 500 page essay why you love mcdonals and send it to macca gm, and if you ask nicely he'll give you one (1) point but then you have to make a reddit thread about how hecking pawesome he was
>>581185057Just gonna assume they're waiting until after it starts.
>>581185147>should i order pizza for launch nighti'm thinking mcdonalds, babe
I'm going to laugh about this if in about 2-3 days Blizzard rolls out the beta code thing in NA.
who's eating all the mcdonalds??
>>581185083buy a sauce for 30 cents
>>581184885they would be accepted for sure but there would also be outrage. it would simmer down though like it did in og tbc i suppose. idk man I really love the og WC3 and Vanilla's lore and the books. i want to keep that respected. metzen being back gives me hope that he would be able to introduce the horny space goats in a more tactful way. keeping KJ and Sarg as the eternal big bad like 40k is a solid idea. have them always trying to meddle but never able to manifest in azeroth like how archi did in wc3. old gods are also in the setting and definitely more up close and personal so their backstory will need to be explained as well since c'thun is part of og vanilla and the forgotten/faceless ones are part of canon leading up to WoW.overall enthused and hyped. i'm one of those that reads every single quest text and I will have tons of reading to do in the beta.
i will play fem nelf warrior just like i always do
>>581185147What race and class is she playing, so I can tank for her?
>>581184589Play them all and stick with the one you find the most fun?
>>581185241It's stacking up into a pile and attracting kangaroos.
>>581185232I can't imagine paying 60 dollars for the beta and then get immediately BTFO by fucking mcdonalds lmao.
>>581185265female dwarf disc priest
>>581185201I unironically think it would be cool of /wowfg/ to buy a fuckton of McDonald's on launch day as thanks for getting so many anons into the beta.
>>581185201>ok haha that works, lets just do both >>581185265>i cant decide between skyborne priest or night elf priest, what do you think anon
>>581185108>>581185048It’s not actually interesting. Modern casual mmo players believe pressing more buttons is harder or more skill intensive or you have more control over the situation. PvP is not like that at all, it’s all scripted from start to finish given a large enough sample you’ll always achieve the same result. Why did classic developer do it that way? Instead of giving it an active damage cooldown? Because, they were cooler. It actually is more interesting that way. It’s the same exact thing but it’s more. Classic did that a lot they give you more without changing classic like new classic gives you less classic.
>>581185265She's playing a skelf on the other faction, sorry bro
Which race you think will be the next $30 dlc? After they make a shit ton of money off of this you know they'll do it again.Im guessing a playable Murloc race because retarded will buy it or a Naga race that has an Elf form, like how worgens are.
>>581185250I have always thought old gods meaning the ones we see in game like c'thun and the dead one in darkshore should be high level lieutenants of a greater eldritch antagonist rather than themselves being gods.
>>581185232why would it matter? its 7 dollars either way
>>581184304>>581184840Also forgot to mention that the last group is the largest group of players. And the toxic assholes are the smallest group, but they tend to stick together so if you avoid any guild with someone like that then you tend to be okay. /vg/ guilds tend to be this way, even if they are good enough to clear content sometimes there is still retarded drama and snakes, so steer clear of /vg/ guilds at all costs desu. Even the good /wowg/ guilds that were doing mythic stuff, while fun to participate in, definitely had some stupid ass drama in it.
>>581185232I come out ahead either way, $3 saved
>>581185370You did read the 10% increased damage, right? On your burst window? As a racial?
>>581184845Why does it look lil a LEGO game?
>>581185424you could actually eat the food you paid for
>>581185023yes this is when blizzards short term lore design started really falling apart and turning into everyone is friends foreverandever. what do you mean the belfs are redeemed just like that? they fit the horde better when they were magic addicts fiending for the next hit of that sunwell. wrote themselves into a corner. not to even mention "tempest keep was only a setback!" poorly done. when TK was being done some higher up approved sunwell and they had to fit it in somehow or some shit. I PRAY that they have a long term lore vision established and follow those story beats because otherwise shit starts falling apart especially in a forever 60 version
>tfw you tell a horizontal fag that raiders need an incentive to raid and "for fun" just isn't going to cut it
>>581185486i'd have to drive to the mcdonalds though, and then i'd have to eat mcdonalds.
>>581184534>>581183242Need MOAR of this adorable fuckin' nerd.
>>581185486we dont eat goyslop here
>>581185494>I PRAY that they have a long term lore vision establishedSo are you just ignoring the blue elves being both factions or what?
>>581185525You mean naga?
>as a retail player wow forever actually got me pretty hyped >hey anon, can you do the dishes for me while i finish this dungeon>hey later can you give me head while i game
>>581185486that's what im asking, are people just giving one guy free food? ghost orders??
>>581185519in that case, shouldnt raiders play a different WoW?
>>581185486yeah honestly i'd rather just order it to australia
You monsters are depriving hard working Australians of their Maccas, do you feel no shame?
>>581185580people are just ordering food and letting it sit there at the counter for no one to pick up, like your doordash order because you didnt tip
>>581185580They're making dud pickup orders just to get the points for the free code, so there's a McDicks in Australia having like 30+ pickup orders
We need a say No to retailers campaignhttps://youtu.be/ygjBoW19N4c
>want to play rogue>don’t want to be useless again and beg for tanks and heals
>>581185494well if blood elves just stay in outland wont they just eventually turn their own race into "space elves"?
Why aren't you aussies going to your local maccas and picking up abandoned orders?
>>581185486American mcdonald's is fucking disgusting
>>581185250>>581185393OSRS has the best lovecraftian antagonist I have seen in a video game, it absolutely smokes the void bullshit wow has been on for so long now.Check these vids out, they're great.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40sUQ0yLStghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7qOZaPTmb0
>>581185686i still need to order mine. if an aussie proved their aussieship i'd tell them the name
>>581185459It’s not really like that, you’re sensationalizing the product undeservedly. Nothing is actually changing. Let’s put it this way, do pro twitch streamers go 800-0 winrates? No, they climb to their equals, and then achieve 50% winrate at their skill ceiling. PvP is a completely fixed game mode without any deviation. When you have two grand master chess players, given a large enough sample they’ll achieve equal win/loss ratios because you can’t design a fair player vs player game. Thats actually one of the largest flaws in reality, it’s simply not possible to do. At its core the math of what’s happening is, for a professional grand master player to WIN, a professional grand master player needs to LOSE. Fundamentally we’ve reached a paradox, that’s simply not possible. Nonetheless they’ll sell you beating up on Timmy as a game mode and you’ll keep eating it.
>>581185686that's not how it works. even at the end of the day they throw all the food into locked dumpsters so poor people can't sneak in and then sue them due to local laws
>>581185519>players would rather do anything else but raid>NOOOOOOO BLIZZARD HELP ME AND MY PARSEFAG FRIENDS>PLEASE FORCE THE PLAYER POPULATION TO DO OUR SHITTY CONTENTIt's funny how pvp has absolutely no problem gathering players, have you tried being...fun?
>>581185659This is why people should just be doing redbulls or something. No food wasted, no labor, no problems. 2 redbulls is enough to get the points and they can realize what is happening and just put it back in the fridge if no one picks it up after 10-20 minutes.
>>581185132>There are generic Eredar Warlock creeps in TFT.good catch! didn't remember those and they do look like smaller KJ/Archi. means they can put in either "purified" eredar or the draenei themselves>Because orcs being alien invaders didn't tip you off?this take is a bit disingenous, orcs don't fit common tropes of sci-fi alien invaders. those have advanced technology to go along with their invasions. this is more "portal into another dimension" invaders than your classic alien invader trope. it's more diablo than starcraft invaders
>>581185760They should just be sitting on the counter anon
Just visited the local maccas, what the fuck did you guys do
>>581185760yes it is, if you have someone at the physical location all they need is your pickup code
>>581185764God I can't wait to do some wpvp raids on stormwind
>>581185837I know it's slop but it's just so fucking funny.
>>581185393also a great idea that can be expanded upon. the greater eldritch atagonist never even has to materalize in our plane and we never have to fight it. just keep his minions at bay. stakes must be kept low
>>581185760Why does Macca's immediately lock your online order into a dumpster instead of waiting at the counter for someone to come asking for it
I can't wait for this game to just be the vacation home for retail players and the classic cucks that thought it was for them to be filtered out for being low skill lepers.
>>581185923it's australia. abbos will steal the food out of the dumpster if you don't lock it.
>>581184534brother you need to be in the slop mines 24/7 your shit is absolutely GOATed.
>>581185941This is the ideal scenario, unironically.
>>581185923if you take one that isn't yours and then someone was just late and it's not there then you can get arrested
>>581185951why do people make orders if they aren't allowed to pick them up and they just throw everything away immediately after making it
>>581185941classic is easyretail is only hard at high level pvp hope that helps
>>581186005it's like a war zone over there dude i dunno they do shit different
>Gnome, Nelf, Orc, Troll BiS for everything,, human for Paladin and maybe sword rogueAll other races are 10x worse.
>>581185201There is only one McDonalds left that still serves pizza.
>>581185960Thanks
>>581186081Good, I don't want everyone else to look like me
>>581185327>paying 60 dollars for the beta$30 for the Sky Elves$15 for 30 days of game time$7 for the beta code$8 for the mount, pets, and other bullshit
>>581185564>So are you just ignoring the blue elves being both factions or what?i accepted the lore for that. i don't think it's that egregious. they're going with highborne from 10k years ago prior to the sundering that fled from an already established lore character, talking to other established lore characters. al'akir has a big quest chain with thunderfury involved and i'm sure we'll get more of that and elemental plane lore since they already played a huge part in vanilla.>>581185675not necessarily. plus there are still elves in quel thelas and that can be expanded upon. high elves specifically.
>>581186130draw her with a strapon
>>581186130MY. FUCKING. WIFE. HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG.
>>581186005As soon as an abbo is spotted within 50 feet of the premises they put the building on lockdown with reinforced steel shutters and begin throwing away all the food they've made, all the food currently being eaten by inside diners, all the food currently cooking, and then dump all the oil too for good measure.
>>581186148>$30 for the Sky Elveslmao>$15 for 30 days of game timecouldve gotten it cheaper>$8 for the mount, pets, and other bullshitlmao
do we have no aussies in here
>>581185147https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsGAvkx-BXM
>>581186081Trolls were always best race since they have style and are pretty much the only original race from azeroth.
for me its$7 for beta$0 for sub (token)not buying elves
Why do people think Shaman tank is coming?The only AoE they got is Fire Nova, no?
post naked elf
>>581185670>uefa blocked embeds onto 4chinsHAHAHAHA
>>581186148Look at how raped we have become. That we are defending this.Yep I'm still buying.
>>581186130draw her doing SPH and using two fingers to show how small i am while she verbally insults me with a text box saying "the bull said it felt brand new past the first inch" with a black tauren behind her thanks
>>581186025He is saying classic players will get filtered from new raid mechanics that they haven't had 20 years to learn.
ASMON DROPS LEGENDARY BINDINGS & LOOT COUNCIL DRAMA (3:20:34)
>>581186231seriously. i'll buy you a burger, aussie anon. just make yourself known.
>>581183586holy MAZED
>>581186231try reddit threads
>>58118626430$ for a new race is standard even 30 years ago
>>581186151I appreciate the lore for their existence, but being in both factions is pretty much resigning them to being nobodies in future lore.See: Pandas and their shitty "faction leaders"
>>581186148I paid 0 for the beta
>>581182405Absolute retard. item levels were not used during vanilla. Read the posts.
>>581186251
>>581186251Some anon saw tank shaman stuff from SoD on wowhead and though it was for forever
>>581186231>>581186317>download and installhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apkmirror.helper.prod&hl=en>download and install https://apkpure.com/mymacca-s/com.mcdonalds.au.gma through APKMirror installer>Download and installhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps>Tap developer options 7 times in android>enable mock gps location app>open fake gps>spoof to this location-37.825194, 144.958861>open mymaccas and place an order for big mac small fries (10.8 AUD, 7.7 USD)>select pick up at counter>click im here>redeem the points>paste the code into bnetJust do it yourself, anon.
>>581186306oh then im a fucking retardyeah classic is very easy, hes right
>>581186281damn bro wtf
>>581185380Ogres
i can't wait for people to be bored of the game because it's already datamined and completely solved by release because of the beta
>>581186389yeah i've got it. i just want someone to benefit from it. if you're in the thread and australian, i'll give the food to you instead of it just getting wasted.
>>581186329dishonest
>>581186389and if you dont have a jeetdroid, download an emulator>>581186431loots obfuscated until it drops
guys its nora here. i just designed a new dungeon for forever called Ground Zero and the team have been hard at work putting it together. it is a new level 9-11 dungeon and it's coming to the beta soon.hope you enjoy it as much as i enjoyed making it!
>>581186379No taunt?
>>581184645They removed the best and most iconic ele talent.
>>581186264I didn't say it was a good deal or that you should buy it. Just that objectively you're a retard if you view it as "$60 for the beta"
>>581186264Cool thing about being poor is that you get to pretend that you have morals and standards because you don't preorder stuff like this. That's the cope I'm going with.
>>581186343I agree here. when I first saw the leaks that it would be a neutral race i was extremely dissapointed. the additional lore softened the blow. i'm not the most excited about it but it's alright. they'll have one big interaction with MC redux and then who knows after that point. this will also be interesting to see how blizz handles new races in the game, how they mesh in the current lore, are there emissaries in other quest zones appropriately placed, what do the faction leaders do.many questions and no answers yet, again i will be reading all the quest texts and definitely trying out the skelfs in beta.
>tfw have to wait 45 more daysThe fuck am I supposed to play? Everyhing on the market is dogshit.
>>581186408Show her white boyfriend so that the browns can seethe
>>581186463why are you playing as a female
>>581186408ok so >>581186281 is too much but >>581184269 is fine???
>>581186251autoattacking with rockbiterearth shock as tauntfire nova aoe what else do we need really
>>581186528Factorio
>>581186532women build, men destroy
>>581186431loot blocked datamining blocked beta only goes up to 30 and only 20 on thursday for a few weeks
>>581186281Have some respect for yourself.
>>581186408Excitedly bouncing on her tip toes (in the thigh highs of course) with an elated look on her face holding up a book wrapped in a bow that she's happy to have her gifted by me (her husband).
>>581186607>women buildya, sandwiches LOL
>>581186528tf2>>581186532HER name is norabe respectful
Yup I'm boycotting GTA6 for ethical reasons.>don't own a console>never played any GTA game>running a GTX 1060
>>581186616>>581186457you really trust blizzard to not cut corners and fuck up like always?
>>581186431can't even datamine the fucking beta, EVERYTHING is hidden until it drops for someone.
>>581186672>i'm boycotting gta because ???>however i will be playing a game that has made the deaths of 32481349 cows and chickens meaningless in a single day
>>581186530
>>581186672>that’s understandable >kinda gay, but okay >brown as fuck guaranteed, probably seethes about modern games requiring more power than his dogshit 50 year old low end gpu even when it was new
>>581186682SoD had an airtight release with nobody being able to datamine rune locations or other secrets.
>>581186682the datamining for anything classic+ was done pretty well. remains to be seen but they've earned some goodwill
>>581186672gta sucks anyway, I have never seen the appeal. I played 5 when it came out on pc and it was so piss easy I couldn't believe it, and 80% of the game is driving from A to B listening to dialogue. And the gameplay in the preview for 6 looked basically identical to 5 except with even stupider writing. Unless it's the multiplayer I have no fucking idea what people see in gta, I never even liked the og titles back in the day.
>>581186431wait, you want to resub and play the game in november instead of now?
>can you finish my quests for me while i watch, im getting sleepy
Will this game get me a real life girlfriend? What sex, race, class do I go for a real life girlfriend?
if they are so pro at hiding items from datamining then how come we've seen the skyborne tabard for like 3 months now
You faggots really are making AI slop of ugly fat whores now
>>581186797Male human warrior
>>581186623
>>581186795Post her big meaty soles
>>581186757>blue sky elves joined the horde according to the loreTHIS IS NOT OK STOP STOP STOP
neck and neck race between>skelf slut>forever plapjakanyones game
>>581183091Paid beta has been a thing in the real game for a very long time now. Maybe come out from under your rock, there's a whole world out there.
>>581186757>Both about the same height instead of her being 2 heads shorter than the manMaximum cute, maximum kino.
>>581186831>tabards for shopvs>items in gamegolly anon i just don't know!sod did it already
>>581186795/our/ Sex Elf God is doing the Lord's work, though.
>>581181630The sky niggers are anorexic if they were thicc like night elves I'd relent but as is I don't want to be a puny elf
>>581186883that's her main
Retail players shouldnt be allowed to voice opinions on classic related matters because they have been conditioned for 10 years to play a mythic dungeon spam queue simulator instead of an MMO
>>581186682its already like that on reeeeetail
>>581186875bros...
You're not poor... are you?
What faction are the furry RP-PvPers rolling on, and will there be a guild?
>>581186875Where’s her white boyfriend, Rajeesh?
>>581186875This is the kind of thing that makes you happy you married the right woman.
>>581187001>>581186757right there dumbass
>>581186930really good lore here, that is correct>>581186876>can you rub my feet actually, we can watch skelf lore videos
>>581186757>black nailsI am cum
>>581187031Sheeeeeeeeeit, I’m blind
so when are mythic raids/dungeons coming to wow forever?I mean if its wow 2 then that means they will eventually have to do that to appeal to real wow fans.
>>581186797Body type 1 gnome
>>581186415I doubt they would like Ogres be playable for Aliiance. Race needs to be neutral
>>581186527Fair enough m8, I'm trying to stay cautiously optimistic about them.
FVVVVVVVVVVVARRRRRRRRKDwarves and Orcs look so cool.
>>581186848somebody has to eat all this maccas
>>581186994
>>581187084I say this
>>581181473>https://files.catbox.moe/oc8vap.webmNever forget what they took from you.We're getting smurf elves instead.
>>581186994Are you even going to play WC3 reforged?
>>581183091I'm pretty sure beta access to Legion was granted to everyone with a pre-order during the final month before launch. Though it wasn't an advertised feature of the purchase back then, and they only realized that could push early sales metrics relatively recently.
>>581186994No, but I'm not retarded either.
>>581187084The elf is cute though...
>>581187084
wow forever plapjak > skelf
>>581187138Jeffrey Epstein thanks you, paypig
In honor of /our/ Australian brothers, all American McDonald's purchased by white, American foreverbros is officially Macca's now.
>>581187113I don't think they have to make all of them neutral indefinitely. They had to do it for elves because they are universally demanded by the playerbase and only having them on one side guarantees that faction imbalance becomes a major problem.If it's niche races like ogres though they could definitely make them faction restricted, they would just have to come up with a similarly niche race for the other faction.
>>581186998despite vulpera's existence and pandas being neutral, majority of wow furries originally were alliance adjacent due to worgens, so i'd assume alli in anticipation of more races being likely added in the future
>>581187113One race for Alliance. One Race for Horde.Those are the additions. Different races.I am tired of these neutral races. It is not aesthetic on the character creation screen.
>>581186994my duo gifted me the collection :3
>>581187170The fact they didn't even try to discount the price because I already owned reforged was enough to not make me buy that scam.
>>581187185Mustn’t rape…..
>>581187169We say sex elves here.
>>581186875now give her inverted nipplesand a prolapsed vaginaand a prolapsed anusand excessive body hair and pubesthank you in advance
>>581181591Looks bad honestly, can't see the stars anymore, blows out the entire sky and you get no depth of anything anymore, it all just looks like grey as if they put out a camera outside and over-exposed it like crazy.They are basically emulating how a camera sees the world instead of trying to emulate how a human eye sees the world.It's objectively worse.
>>581187058
>>581187303>can't see the stars anymoreit's daytime chief
>>581187238It's a pretty sweet deal if you don't have WC3R and want the skelves anyway. WC3R + expansions costs 50 bucks alone
>>581183843diablo 4 is 4 years old. it was time to cut losses and end the failure, if people really think about it's kinda a good move by blizz. they want diablo to really compete with poe
Buy the elves...
>>581187303
>>581187205Yeah, but Tauren. Originally there were a lot of horde furries on Bloodhoof. The only thing that sucks is having to choose between RP and PvP unless they fix that. At least no matter the faction I can kill elves.
>>581187303that daytime the new fog/lighting is dynamic
>>581186994I'm not paying even more for that shitty WC3 "expansion.">no new faction to play even though demons and naga are both begging to be one>one new "campaign" that's just a retread of the rexxar one>one new unitThe Frozen Throne is the standard and this new shit doesn't measure anywhere close.
>Classic snorefestyou can’t be serious
>>581187058>>581186795you know these would be a lot better if you made them realistically chubby instead of grotesquely inhuman landwhales.
>>581187185
>>581187345isnt diablo 4 blizzards biggest revenue generator?
>>581187345If it isn’t free it won’t compete, I shan’t be paying 70-80 goybucks on another blizzard blunder like Diablo iv, may they get sent to the gas chambers and raped by blacks
so why did the alliance/horde let a bunch of sky elves join seeing as they spent the last 2k years watching everyone dying to demon/orc/undead invasions?and for the elves who spent all this time jacking off on clouds, watching all this mayhem, only to crawl to those they ignored for help. Its just shameless.
>>581187384>my outfit suggestion has become her default lookPerfection.
>>581181535>he plays as the mudhut faction
can I get beta access without having to pay for skyelfs in europe?
>>581187428this is my first slop ever anoni just thought it was funny idk how to do it well
>>581186482>become a real class every 3 minutes in pvp>useless in pvedon't careele is going to run out of mana and be trash though, enjoy your faster casts lol
>Ban evading to scream at jannies over world of warcraft
>>581186475Taunt is a crutch. A good tank doesn't need taunt.
>>581187384WHERES THE STRAPON FAAARK
now hold on, I can play blue elf during beta to see their starting zone and quests and never buy them
>>581187467Chill.
Get it while its hot
>>581187581repost
>>581187548How do you tank swap a raid boss without a taunt?
for the people going in friend-less guild-lessadd every warrior you group with and offer them help for their quest when they're 30
>>581187581>making people race to type the codeHilariously based.
>>581187503Opt in and pray for good luck.
In classic lore, what are the politics of the horde vs alliance?>alliance seems more conservative and wanting to maintain traditional power>more aristocratic >horde seems more tribal>more liberal?
>>581187396>>581187205most of my early furfag experiences pre cata was feral druid faggotry
Any aussie here?I'll buy you lunch, just share your nearest slop location.
>>581187581>mymacca's appdo australians really
>>581187576Why is she freezing alone? Why aren’t (I) there to warm her up?
>>581187581between this and the sky elves, this has been the most hilarious pre release ever
>>581187662dont be a derro
>>581184645Calculator says that the max reduction on lightning casts is 0.5 seconds, enjoy your nerf.
>>581187576Now put a human chad next to her
>>581187503maccas tech
>>581187618funny>>581187608even funnier, indians are supposed to be the best at spelling bee
>>581187609You don't. That guy is a fucking idiot who doesn't know how tanking actually works.
>>581187636Alliance is in reconstructionHorde is in expansionism
>>581187384>the boy are back in town
>>581187576cute
i play a tauren resto shaman can i join the wowfg guild
>>581186682literally couldnt datamine SOD after p1 and everything was a surprise. they've kept alot of stuff secret and we only know about some things because streamers fucked up
DO NOT REDEEM
>>581187712as in it was posted earlier, jeet
Why is that person having a meltdown about 'maye' do they even post here? I don't see any obvious posts.
>>581187748wowfg is rolling alliance
I foresee this being a complete disaster.
Genuinely hilarious that all the extreme vitriol against Sky Elves evaporated as soon as someone made them highly fuckable
>>581187763Maye this dick fit in your mouth :)))))))))))))))
>>581187697It's .5 seconds faster than classic by default. So it's 2.5 > 2 instead of 3 > 2.5. Maybe know what the fuck you're talking about before saying retarded shit?
>>581181664Everyone's saying it's fun and not a bad thing, and after they realize their gear is not getting any better, no matter what they do, they will leave and not say a word about it, so as to not embarrass themselves. There's a reason play count is so fucking low for GW2 and ESO and every other "horizontal" mmorpg (compared to wow and FF14). It's because it's NOT fun. Vertical prog is like fucking crack, and that's what keeps players coming back, myself included.It doesn't have to be an insane increase from one tier to the next. I would be really happy with 2-3% better stats / higher ilvl. But to log in to GW2 12-13 years after you last played it and still have basically BIS gear is fucking bullshit.
>>581187796Why is this bad?
>>581187796you will run every single raid forever for your onslaught girdle
>I'm going to piss and shit everywhere about wanting high elves, oblivious to the fact that Blizzard can't trademark and protect the term "high elves," because it's generic and has been used in a thousand other fantasy properties. I don't have the pattern recognition required to see that Blizzard hasn't done generic fantasy races in decades, because they want to be able to protect their brand.
>>581187796Explain how this is a bad thing without buzzwords.
>>581187724What is Stormwind reconstructing in Desolace?Or dwarves in Mulgore and Barrens?
>>581187185Anal please ...
>>581187796it means you will have to pug because pretty much no guild will continue doing old raids on a scheduleimo pug raiding should never be incentivized so this is bad
Decided to buy WC1 remastered with the Forever preorder. holy fuck it is unplayable, look at the text formatting how is anyone supposed to see this and be able concentrate on the game?
>hes backI'm fucking retarded and dont pay any attention to WoW lore but it seems likeAlliance>Conservative>dont like warlocks, dont do blood sports>germanic fantasyhorde>non germanic fantasy>liberal>more open mindedam i retarded or is this right
>>581187796This could go horribly wrong. But I'm all for it for the shitstorms it will inevitably convoke.
>>581187796I love dragging 39 people into Molten Core before our AQ40 raid for the 10% chance to drop one Plate Belt
>>581187796I mean that's how horizontal progression works no? You get to keep doing all content
>>581187702
>>581187810Why is it labeled "WARNING: CHOKING HAZARD — Small parts. Not for children under 3 yrs."
Has anyone been beta invited via opt-in process yet?
>>581187919Kinda looks like a rapist desu kek
>>581187921>Not for children under 3 yrsas if he'd ever take that under advisement
>>581187842isn't that what kael'dorei, sin'dorei etc. are for? the new ones can be sky'dorei lmao.
>>581187919Kinda looks like me (I’m a rapist btw)
>>581187618>ctr c>ctrl p on chatgpt>copy paste the code on bnet in 3 seconds
>>581187796It's called Forever because every weekly lockout has a 1% drop for BiS and you will do all content every week for the rest of your life to see it.
>>581187894Looks like some flashgame kek
>>581187896>am i retardedsure sounds like it
>>581187641That and Ghost Wolf form, also tauren in general.
>be me, gnome rogue chad>see dindu noshoe in the world>premeditation>eureka>ambush>backstab>cold blood + eviscerate>you're dead before you can even react >didn't use a single vanish, blind, thistle tea
>>581187854Play the game and find out
>>581187796this won't be enough, MC had onslaught that warriors wanted all the way into Naxx, but everyone else couldn't give two shits about it and only attended on either undergeared alts or if forced by the guild, the only natural way people congregated to old raids was GDKP's, there's no way it will have chase pieces for every class out there
>>581187972They're Shen'Dorei. But we call them sex elves.
>>581188009my exact plan>>581187998ok sorry
>>581187842They literally have original names for the races already. I swear to god you people are just fucking addicted to being loud, confidently wrong retards.
>>581187921It’s actually labeled fun for all ages
>>581184854They outsourced the models to some Thai company. Ironically the Thai company did the best job when it comes to WC3 reforged, everything else is bad. They made some really nice additions too that I found were actually very good. In the high elf campaign they actually added unique models for every unit. Meaning foot soldiers were not just reskinned human ones but they actually have unique models now.They also added stuff like female centaurs with huge milkers and all the models with skirts have a unique set of panties.The Dreadlords in the campaign are also not just different sizes and colors but they actually all have unique models too.I don't know about the new campaign but it just being a hero campaign, makes it very boring to me. While I liked Rexxar's campaign I gotta say it was more of a experimental move and I'd leave it at that.
you know what that chase will be, right? its a mount
>>581187815all that has to happen is the setback has to have a limit.Major Content Update comes out. Everyone gets set back a fixed amount of power.Then regain the power by picking from any of the endgame content pieces. All content relevant. And if you take a break, you're only set back by a fixed amount.It's like if every Season you got to decide how you want to max out. From the entire library of old and new content.
Do I get a third Hero at some point in the Forsaken Kingdom campaign? Not sure if I should sell shit Garek/Anya don't need or keep intelligence stuff maybe
>>581187614>PEDOPHILEHoly onions we don't care
>>581187919How did Ishikawa from public security section 9 manage to get a sky elf gf?
>>581187987>he needs a fucking goy chat bot for OCR instead of just using his screenshot tool that does it
>>581187636Horde wants trees. Alliance somehow got the Night Elves to join them, and the Night Elves diplomacy with the Orcs somehow fell through, and don't want them to have trees.
>>581187881Yeah how do people not see this is crazy.This is basically like the mount drops since Wrath.>"alright guild, we will run this until everyone has the mount, since it's guaranteed!">first one goes to GM's e-girlfriend officer>after 4 weeks, the raid isn't happening because those with the mount don't bother coming and others are demoralized
>>581188009Oh, it's only 20% for energy, interesting. What kind of openers does this enable?
>>581188025I accept your consession.
>no beta access>go to beta opt-in site>realize I somehow wasn't opted-in Guys don't forget to check if you're retarded like me
>>581184931>posts a picture thats supposed to contradict the other guys post>instead it validates the other guys postactually crazy how retarded people are
the 2 part names thing is so stupid honestly it's the worst change they've made
>>581188234I like it. I am an RPer.
>>581188143>MARKETEERS>calls other people jeetsFucking kek.
>>581181526
>>581188009I really wanted to play a dwarf rogue but this is simply too juicy to pass up on
Do you think names will be globally unique? Or only per-ruleset?
>>581188245now rp as a troll with this 2 names shit, you cannot
>>581188234It's a necessity because of the region wide servers, without it it would be too difficult to come up with unique names. It's basically the cross realm system where your name has a -server suffix except in this case you make the suffix yourself.
>>581188182ambush and backstab back to back, then a blind if you have the talent for it to only be 15 combo points. if not, wait another sec and you can CB eviscerate.
female human priest Angela Ogundimu
>>581188307
>>581188234then toggle them off
>>581188306Zul Mandingo
>>581187636In official lore or what it used to be Theramore is actually a metropolis on Kalimdor that rivals Orgrimmar in everything. There is even a discussion going on that Theramore should be the capital of the Alliance and not Stormwind.Classic lore was kind of butchered for the sake of balance. The new Horde on Kalimdor shouldn't be at all that strong, so everything was kind of adjusted to fit a pvp game.
Everyones second name will be Sneed
>>581187632thanks for the info. didnt know you could just apply for beta access lol
my name will be John Warcraft
Simpler times.
>>581188306they should let you replace the space between the names with an apostrophe or hyphen
First name cant, last name breef
>>581188306Vol Jin
>>581187636Horde is literally just trying to survive, Kalimdor is mostly a fucking wasteland.That's why they have the Trolls and Tauren, the darkspear trolls were getting shit on by humans and other trolls, the taurens were getting shit on by the pigmen and centaurs, thrall did his magic and out of an alliance for convenience hey became bros 4 lyfe.The forsaken were getting shit on by the humans and scarlet crusade and the scourge so they joined the same way.Essentially horde right now is pacifist mode and just trying to get a foothold which is why Theramore is allowed to be right next to Durotar and even did some trading because Jaina lusts after Thrall orc cock.Horde came up to ashenvale and since they didn't know shit they just started cutting, elves came in and started killing horde, as a result a conflict started and then Grom went apeshit and killed Cenarius, they got off the wrong foot with elves because on their arrival there was still a LOT of old horde enslaved to the legion until Grom sacrificed himself to save them in Ashenvale, and in that same ashenvale Grom went apeshit and started killing everything he saw pre freedom.Alliance in general with the exception of the night elves is just a lot of angry dudes and getting shit on by both onyxia and their old ways.
>>581188370My guess is they won't send many out as they want to sell as many of the beta keys as possible due to FOMO
>>581188456You seem mad.
>>581188031lets not pretend like thunderfury does not existor quick strike ring which is also bis forever
>>581187881>>581188163And even pugging there needs to be some reason for every other role that doesn't use DST to go there - and not just go at all but go in equal numbers. Or you will have >90% of population missing their DST because lack of <other role> running the place.This along with "10/20 raids but you also need to do 40 raids" is just design that doesn't work for almost any guild besides the sweaty large meatgrinder guilds.There are other design implications such as having too many raids to focus which means you can't feasibly have one night raid progress guilds. Which just smells like it's going to have to be a single player experience with LFR queue at your leisure.
Will they keep petrification in the hardcore version of Forever?
>>581188182Eureka is 20% BUT they also get another racial that gives them +5% total energy as well.
>>581188380Make way for my new human male hero of Azeroth, John Warrior.
>>581188476Theramore with the help of Kul Tiras could easily wipe out the new Horde if it wanted to. The only reason it didn't happen the first time was because of Jaina. In fact Night elves at the end of Wc3 are so powerful they could take down both Horde and Alliance if they wanted to.It just all got ret-conned for the sake of balance.
can you have a name like The Wall or is that banned
if the gnome rogue gets vigor, this entire combo (3k to 4.5k damage depending on crits) can be pulled off in two seconds.3k to 4.5k damage, every 2 minutes (eureka and premed cooldown) without using any of your important cds (vanish, sprint, blind, prep)
>never played a gnome before>kinda wanna make a gnome rogueso whats their classic lore, previous machines turned human who now wanna kill horde?>>581188476why are gnomes so angry then
Any guild discords I can join?
>>581188679>so whats their classic lorethey are short
>>581188576only onyxia is 40 and that can be done with 20 like you would do splits normally
Can you have a name like Jeffrey Epstein or is that banned
>>581188543propably truelogically speaking, I wouldnt even want to play the beta, since I will spoil myself a lot but on the other hand the urge to play asap is strong.
>>581182824I think theres better stories and content to be had if we dont fight the lich king. Or if we cant beat him. So he can always be a looming antihero threat, sometimes have to work with him to stop legion stuff, sometimes fighting his armies but not him himself.Same with illidan or kaelthas they shouldnt be raid bosses. They should be faction leaders of npc factions to give the story familiar protagonists and conflict that dont need to elevate the player to godlike heights and dont need world ending threats.
>>581188746I doubt any of the spicy names are explicitly banned excluding slurs but you will probably get reported which will probably mean a name change.
>>581188638Of course, but they don't want to which is the point.Horde is weak and constructing a power force but alliance is so fucked up by in fighting and their past retardation that they're almost on the brink of collapse>>581188679Like I said above gnomes were always alliance oriented, but the second in command (thermaplug) wanted the throne for himself.Gnomes were getting gangbanged by Troggs and Thermaplug used that to try and usurp power and that resulted in the entirety of gnomeregan getting iradiated and the gnomes having to abandon their capital and birth place.The gnomes that remained/helped Thermaplug thrived in that radiation and became the leper gnomes, with Thermaplug in control of the ruined gnomeregan, while the ones that escaped managed to find asylum in ironforge.
>>581188591This will unironically me one of the first names reserved kek.
>>581188679Genius inventors responsible for all of the Alliance's technical shit, Alliance equivalent to Horde's goblins since WC2, and nearly genocided themselves. That's it.
>>581188679They never joined any fights with the Alliance, despite always existing. Because they had to fight the Throggs and Leper gnomes in Gnomeregan. Which they ended up losing. That's it.
>>581188476>Jaina lusts after Thrall orc cock.Damn that's hot
>>581182415>That's the only reason why you want to do horizontal progression is because you still have a longterm vertical progression of XP and skills.maxing your skills is still nowhere near as much time as it takes to max your gear, it's basically a sidequest in comparison.
>>581188678oh baby it's gonna be a rapefest with eureka. it's gonna be real interesting how the faction balance shapes up this time.
>>581188817John Warcraft is gonna legendary
>>581188723I don't have sleep apnea. Just garden variety insomnia. Stay mad, though.
>back to classic>jaina is a naive moron who trusts orcs not to burn down everything she holds dearsomeone tell this chick's dad to set her straight
orcs already lost their stun immunity so horde pvp is dead in a ditch
>>581188638>Theramore with the help of Kul Tiras could easily wipe out the new Horde if it wanted tountrue, since I kill hundreds of theramore troops by myself before reaching level 20. not very impressive.
>>581188838not even a meme she's always been after his cock and when Thrall found himself an orc gf Jaina went off the deep end and never recovered.
>>581188571thunderfury was exclusively for organizers, do you remember that many pugs where it was free for grabs? ring was good but not a huge deal with plenty close enough alternatives especially later on
>>581188878I imagine Warcraft is one of the things that won't be usable.
>>581188981So fucking weird how she started fucking a literal dragon post TBC.
>>581188964wutthey get -20% stun duration like retail and they've been a top tier pvp race with that same racial for years
>>581188853Maybe in modern old school with the GE and wow tokens and tons of efficiencies. Now you don't even need to compete for rock crabs. You can basically buy skills many skills in old school. The time it takes to max most skills, even with modern old school, is far longer than any WoW player has grinded to max level.
>>581189029Closest thing to thralls green penis I guess.
>>581189030>orc warriors no longer resist 45% of stuns>they now start on half stun DRAt least with the first one there was a CHANCE to get a full stun throughThen again Gnome Rogues probably still kill them so who cares
>>581189048God I'm glad I hate RuneScape because I could never play this shit.
>>581188981>>581189029brutal. rejected by an trad orc chad, then she proceeds to ride the cock carousel and fuck all kinds of canines.
>>581189030in retail it takes 20 minutes for a duel, in classic you can and will die in 1 stun duration even with -20%
>>581188984we did aq40 into bwl into mc binding run every week until the third tank got his binding
>>581189029>>581189098is this lore accurate?
>>581188998There's no characters in the armory named warcraft, only guilds, so you are probably right
>>581188984>argument based around classic pugs with reservationsu wot
>>581187609>>581187723Like what, firemaw?You have the 2nd tank sit 2nd on threat and pick it up after you get hit by buffetThen the first tank rides it until he's 2nd in threat againTaunt is not needed if people are goodThe only reason taunt is in the game is because people are low skill
>>581188950All that is now fanfic and not canon so Jaina has been 100% right so far, she and thrall are sole reasons why there's still an Azeroth because the fucking retards at Lordaeron were too egotistical and idiotic to listen.
>>581188965Kek I kill millions of orcs at level 60 and now what? They even got several big dragons and are not match for me.>>581188815>Brink of collapse No lmao. Even those separatists could take down the lore-accurate new Horde if they wanted to. That and normally Orgrimmar and Durotar should basically be the only place where the new Horde has any presence at all. Mulgore for Tauren and that's about it.
>>581188981>not even a memeI know, all white women are like that.
>>581188678should be doable without vigor no? you only need one tick of energy regen or whatever system they are using now
>goblinsTaurens are the inventor faction of Horde. They created elevators.
>>581189145Yes. Jaina started off seeing Arthas. Then Kael'thas. Then Thrall. Then Kalecgos .
>hey bro you wanna do this dungeon with me?>sorry dude I already did it once :(
>>581189089Worth noting that pvp trinkets in Forever work vs ALL TYPES OF CC. So rogues openers actually have counterplay now.
>>581189048>The time it takes to max most skills, even with modern old school, is far longer than any WoW player has grinded to max level.And? the question here isn't OSRS vs wow it's maxing your skills in OSRS vs maxing your gear.These are my stats, and I am nowhere close to obtaining even my first megarare let alone maxing out all gear. The fact that you are citing rock crabs as some kind of useful training method for maxing leads me to believe you have no idea what you are talking about or your info is hopelessly out of date.
>>581189191>No lmao. Even those separatists could take down the lore-accurate new Horde ifI'm talking about the alliance, they literally don't have a king, horde is getting stronger every year and Onyxia is butt fucking them.
>hey bro you wanna rape this girl with me?>sorry dude I already raped her once :(
>>581187806Dumb? They suck. I'm not gonna play wowfg but I'm curious what kind of Lore they will use to justify their existence.
>hey bro you wanna do this dungeon with me?>sure dude lemme show you this new sweet ability I unlocked
>want to play enhance shaman>watch enhance classic pvp>they get destroyed in every 1v1>they just throw totems on ground>get kited>maybe 1 shot someone with windfury wow they are bad in pvp eh
>>581189089All the stun resist talents got changed to duration reduction which the orc racial still stacks with.
>>581189145yes, she canonically started dating Kalecgos at some point, which is baffling on many levels.
>>581189287>you have to humiliate yourself online with bbc cvck shitHow fucking new are you?Thrall and Jaina being a what if almost maybe not has been a thing since literal WC3 reign of chaos 23 fucking years ago.
this is going to be disgusting, there is no way eureka doesn't get nerfed
>>581189230its simply the payment that must be paid in order to silence the BOOST BOOST BOOST BOOSTthese ads were constant and unyielding, we can only hope that their end is near.
>>581187581AustralianGOD can you drop more?
>>581188571accuria is also very goodbwl had mqg, crossbow, tear, and dft
>>581189287it is actual canon that jaina had feelings for thrall and then fucked kalecgosstop browsing pol
>>581189417Crikey, I’m too busy raping some girls irl to get you another code mate
>>581189305Their lore has already been explained. It's serviceable enough. New, but fits within preexisting lore and is entirely inoffensive.
I know cat druids have always been a meme but would they at least be good at pvp in these changes? I guess the only other thing is because no one rolls feral for dps in raids (because it's shit and they have to tall about "class fantasy" to justify hitting so many buttons and doing subpar dps) you get all the feral loot
>>581189289The races are governed independently by different leaders. King Magni is not a King to you? Anduin is a child but still a King with a court of Advisors. Onyxia is just some villain and you could say the same about the Burning Blade in Orgrimmar or the Grimtotems for the Tauren.Or the Scarlet Crusade for the Forsaken.
>>581189332Enhance in vanilla is strictly for meme 1shotting clothies in bgs through windfury, ideally with the berserk buff. Or if you get a lucky drop on people in the open world, if someone else jumps you, you're done.
>>581189389It's kinda fucked up that even if Eureka didn't exist Gnomes would still be the best rogues from the +5% extra energy racial and Escape Artist.
>>581189468Really proved me wrong, you retarded nigger newfag lmao.
>>581189509does it look the same in wow forever so far?im guessing yes
>>581181846Both, enhance for more crit and resto for hit, better healing, mana and mana tide.Drop mana tide for imp ghost wolf maybe?
Why do they say blue elves are a new race when they're just blood elves reskinned?
>>581189191>Kek I kill millions of orcs at level 60 and now what?not orcs from thralls horde aka the new horde though. keep up with the lore and you will realize how weak theramore really is. blowing it up was a mercy.
>>581188362So actually a 70/30 population split between Alliance and Horde would actually be canon and there's no reason they need mandatory elves.
>>581188779I got a 1 week ban for having my name reported too much on anni launchthey unbanned me after 3 days and 2 tickets of me explaining that my name was not against the rules
>>581189550Enh has a fuckload of buffs compared to their vanilla version but still suffers from the same issues of being kited and having no cc.
>>581189470They'll be absurdly good. Moonkins are the big question. They have to lose either 10% int or 5% dmg and theres no point in getting moonkin form if you can get leader of the pack from a feral. Eclipse is also questionable.
>>581189508Humans are still the leaders of the alliance, and all those leaders are dealing with a billion problems caused by their past.Dwarves are fucked up from past wars and perpetually fighting the dark iron, their goddamn princess was "kidnapped" by them but in reality she left voluntarily.The gnomes are gnomes and again just refugees.Night elves are the only ones that are somewhat ok but still dealing with a myriad of issues.If Onyxia toppled the only relevant human kingdom left the domino effect toppled the rest.
>>581189560Because the new Horde has developed any new tactics in fighting? I doubt that.
>>581189249I've played runescape on and off since 2001 including 2013 oldschool launch and I've played old school as recent as this year. I know what I'm talking about. Most WoW players will never grind the amount of time you spend on a single skill to 90, let alone a 99
>>581189470Feral is no longer hindered by bullshit Feral AP or the need to powershift. They look like they're just legitimately good now.
>>581189627someone said they get less rng playstyle but idk how
gonna play dwarf on rp server doing alterac valley defender larp
>>581181846It's pointless to theorycraft shaman because the devs confirmed in an interview their talents trees weren't fully fleshed out for the blizzcon demo.
>>581189659>Dwarves are fucked up from past wars and perpetually fighting the dark iron, their goddamn princess was "kidnapped" by them but in reality she left voluntarily.I thought she actually was kidnapped but got stockholm syndrome'd by thaussarian's big dark iron cock?
>>581188362one horde grunt equals to 2 or 3 footmen in lore. horde martial prowess is much stronger. all the alliance races are "dying" races for different reasons.
>>581189149i'd be happy if it wouldn't be the cae for wowf, but i highly doubt pugs will be any different there, it's the same crowd, maybe 30% more hrt
>>581189686And again, that's completely irrelevant. We aren't talking about wow at all here. Your original point was that gearing in OSRS only works because it takes so long to max your skills, but maxing your skills takes a fraction of the time it takes to max your gear. And also getting to 90 is fucking nothing what are you talking about, you can do that in a few days playing casually for most skills and some of them like fletching you can literally get 99 in a matter of hours.
>>581189690They can actually deal good damage now without having to fully rely on windfury procs to get anything done.
>>581189638>>581189689I was under the impression that without powershifting you'll just be standing there waiting to get your energy back 80% of the time now.
>>581189150>using the boss where you absolutely can not just clumsily juggle aggro to swap as your example8/10
>>581189470>If you are not a warr you're a memeI don't think you should play it since you seem like you're bad at the game. Just go for gnome mage instead.
>>581189792i hope they dont lose the 1 shot playstyle from rbg
>>581189709Nta but the lore on numbers never made sense, the Tauren were hunted to near-extinction by the centaurs and Thrall bailed them out. Fucking centaurs
>>581189659And why would that be? Humans could rally behind many other still existing human kingdoms or remnants of human kingdoms. If the dark irons get Ironforge I doubt they'd be cool with the new Horde.Night elves have literal Demigods, so they'll be perfectly fine.>>581189709>one horde grunt equals to 2 or 3 footmen in lore.>horde martial prowess is much stronger.Humans are weaker in general but can use more advanced tactics and have better armor. 3 footmen killing 1 grunt still ends up with 3 footmen standing to kill the next grunt.Not to mention Horde's suicidal tactics that they use. If they charge into a pikewall half-naked and get impaled that's just a regular day for Orcs.
Why hasn't blizzard done a crossover with games workshop and made 40k cosmetics yet
>>581189880taurens are literally the gentle giants who don't really know their strength to fight back, thats why they got bullied by centaurs. horde harnessed that potential.
>>581189663yes, they are millions times stronger than dark horde orcs.
>>581189793That's how energy classes work with you aren't forced to retard shift as often as possible. But their shit is tuned properly now and they have actual scaling so their damage is going to be good. Feral is historically a spec that scales extremely well with it isn't pigeonholed by Feral AP, albeit it will suffer a bit in that regard from feeling like its crit is somewhat wasted during Berserk. Regardless, it's going to be good. Especially if snapshotting is in play.
>>581188981Thrall got a gf?
>>581189830Why do you think this can't be done? I gave this example because it's the first taunt swap in the game from what I remember. As long as the top 2 threat makes sense there's no reason why it can't be done. I would be surprised if noone ever did these raids with shaman tanks
>beta access for gifting 2 twitch subsscreencap this
>>581189916Look up how Warcraft came to exist and that should explain it.
>>581189951Thrall got wife in Cataclysm man, it's been a while
>>581189994i don't think microcrap gives a shit about a 30 year old grudge
>>581189951yes, me
>>581189834Anon, feral dps was bad, plain and simple. Even with powershifting and farming the MCP for faster attack speed, they were still worse than rogues. Druids themselves cope about their shit dps on how "yeah well my class is actually FUN AND ENGAGING to play", to which i say "ok but why would I bring you over like half the other dps options?"
>>581189916Why hasn't Huawei done a collaboration with Apple and Samsung?
>>581184350>Log into Asian Server>Japanese players calling Vietnamese pigsI like it here
>>581189565>Play retail>Enter Orgrimmar>See very dark night elf greeting me with "Zug Zug" and "for the Horde.">Elves as far as the eye can see in the middle of OrgrimmarI can already see it. Both capitals being flooded with light blue elves.
>>581190080literally every franchise in the world has cosmetics in fortnite, dingus
>>581190052GW are notoriously petty faggots.
>>581184371I'm not buying it or playing, but I watched a cutscene comp for the new campaign and was actually shocked they could write a half decent story still.
>>581189696Good to see RP being mentioned here. Dwarves are chunkykino.
>>581189787You are irrelevant because you don't understand how WoW must make number go up. Tier 3 is basically the max a level 60 could handle in vanilla. You are sperging out about having no life with your max runescape stats.
>>581184350
>>581190135>light blue elvesSee, that's where you're mistaken. They're actually sex elves.
I’m gonna be having scat rp with my diaper wearing gnome during the beta
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>>581190149That sentence makes absolutely no sense. Please re-read the other messages for context.
>>581190224I accept your concession.
>>581190264how about you suck my cock
>>581190250Why would I prevent hot cheerleader elves?
>>581190135and my dick will never survive intact
>>581190229Seems pretty fucking reasonable, tbdesu. I guarantee you that if it were "with the consent of South Korea" the numbers would be very different. Japan hates Korea, but the average Japanese citizen doesn't want to see them get gooknuked. They like their music and the plastic surgery sluts who liosync to it too much for that.
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>>581190052Actually it would be Games Workshop who wouldn't want to do it. Not only are they extremely petty as the other guy said, they're the ones who terminated the deal between them and Blizzard at the time, leading to Warcraft completely dwarfing GW.
>>581181591This is an appropriate zone for the moody fog + god rays thing.I don't know why every single zone needs to be foggy though. Even Mulgore at mid-day has a washed out foggy look.Is it supposed to be all the campfires smothering Azeroth in smoke?
>>581189970it would be easier to just have your tank wear capped fire resist then try to get a tank that is not only not getting rage from the boss, but actually spending a significant portion of time running away from it aggro>ok I am back time to start hitting the boss again good thing the other tank has not used any threat abilities since he picked the boss up ok I pulled and have 4 buffet stacks but we are running 30 hunters as dps so as long as they don't get any fd resists they can keep attacking hope we kill the boss before we lose aggro to a healer
>>581190424I think the effect was exaggerated in what they showed of mulgore because it was sunset. When they were showing off mulgore in daytime during the dynamic shadows part it didn't have that look.
I don't see myself playing as a dwarf or gnome when I'm 190cm tall
>>581190424Sky Elves probably sending the clouds down
skelf in orgrimmar dropping z-word be like:
>>581190242Sex sleeve elves existing for the sole purpose of providing sexual release to all the adventurers passing through towns and cities. With extra bendy ears so you can pull them anywhere you want.
New bread>>581190556>>581190556>>581190556>>581190556>>581190556
>>581190503He said mid-day so he probably means the fairly exaggerated atmospheric fog effect that from what I've seen is pretty much always present.
>>581190074>oh no it's 1% worse than a rogueWho cares? In order for something to be memespec it should do truly subpar performance. You sound like some obsessed parsetranny
Remember to file a wage claim for any betatesting hours.
>keeps everyone coming back>'everyone' being the 5% who care about raidsThey are still clueless who their audience is.
>>5811879901/20 of 1%. Raid niggers are fucked in the head.