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*belly and moobs jiggling*
Vulpera!!!
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is there a podcast that is gonna explain the new forever time line?
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>>581539237
delete this image, I can't stand it.
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>>581539592
They already explained it on a new interview
>WoW: Forever is on an adjacent timeline, and it will diverge on the first day of WoW.
It's another timeline
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>>581539592
everything happened the same as it did prior to the launch of vanilla
it is currently just vanilla with sky elves
it’ll diverge more from there
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>>581539757
>anon is THAT triggered about the cm mog he will never have
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Anons do I level up my arms war and play arena with it or send all my Medals of Conquest and Honor to my Shaman (main) so I can get the elite set?
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>>581540426
Main
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Ooga booga.
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>>581540668
sexo
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>>581541273
SEXXXXXXXXXXXX
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>>581541273
Rape.
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>>581541273
i look like this but male
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If I understand Forever correctly it's super casual focused, bearing that in mind. Do you think there is a chance that in retail they might think about returning buttons/abilities adding more complexity to classes? I have not played since the Pruning, but this is my hope and cope I guess.
>seen on plebbit
lol at those fags.
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>>581541957
>Do you think there is a chance that in retail they might think about returning buttons/abilities adding more complexity to classes?
Nyo
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>>581541957
Maybe after they rework the dragonflight skilltree
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>>581541957
they hinted they might flip the board of class design with regard to Hero Talents, Apex talents etc.
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>>581542387
When?
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>>581542387
nigga probably gonna remove more shit.
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>>581542498
Not him but Ion said in an interview that the tree is getting too bloated and it might be getting to the end of its life.

>>581542518
Probably but we're always getting new shit
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A1O9YkdrM30&pp=0gcJCYsCo7VqN5tD
Shameless shilling of my goat
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>>581542695
Oh they are probably going to shrink the trees when they do the mentioned lvl pruning
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>12.2 on the way
>Still no mention of Stratholme

worried
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>>581543039
Why would they mention stratholme? The new zone is underground.
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>>581543039
Anon it's not happening.
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>>581543039
Strath is the 12.2.5 raid where we kill Turalyon
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>>581540574
This is the only guy I believe plays a female because he likes to look at the ass
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>>581543039
>Arator
>Jimothy
Why the fuck are you asking for anything else when you already have this? You fucking prick
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Zamn! Hakkar the Soulflayer in WoW Forever concept art looks like that?!
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>>581543907
No, he doesn't. He's male.
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>>581543936
all troll gods are genderfluid
you'd know this if you finished BfA
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>atonement buffed by 40% in maze+
Is this not an insane buff for disc? Or is disc so bad that even this makes them mediocre?
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>>581544159
You know what dude? You're not even capitalizing so I disregard your post entirely, be better.
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>>581541957
>Do you think there is a chance that in retail they might think about returning buttons/abilities adding more complexity to classes?
It's a certainty
this is not the first time this has happened
how long is the question you should be asking
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am I dumb or is augvoker extremely simple? I have like 6 buttons and 3 of those are on 30+ second cooldowns
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>>581544331
Probably really good but is it enough?

>>581544539
It is.
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>>581544539
90% of the dev single target rotation is hitting disintegrate the class in general is very simple
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>>581544668
the healer spec has all sorts of weird shit going on, i dont think any class has a bigger disparity between spec difficulty as evoker
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every preservation evoker i know is a gigantic literal fag
why is that?
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Following the release of TLT, World of Warcraft Modern will be renamed to Fellowship 2
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what level do I have to be to solo antorus? I want the transmog for my newly rolled shaman
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>>581545191
World of Warcraft Modern will be renamed to Announcement: End of Service*
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>>581542870
I think it's harder than most dps specs. It was a bit harder last season too.
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I hope AoF is indicative of future dungeon design
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>>581545454
Probably just like echodome inspired future dungeon design
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>>581545454
AoF is the tank playing the game with four other people walking around near him. It's pretty good in terms of layout and mob pack placement but target prio needs to matter more so DPS actually have something to do.
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The Bell man is pretty bases, yeah?
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>>581545970
Theres a bunch of prio mobs like the winged things with the magic dispel, the snakes with the massive absorb, the aoe red snakes not to mention the huge boss hp buff
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My male vulpera wasn't always a fat, he was actually very athletic and slim in his early 20s but let's just say he had a traumatic history and all that stress took a toll on his body thus the fatty he is in present day...
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>>581546223
your old persona was funner
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S
1. Wrath of the Lich King (2008) - Peak WoW. Arthas story, Ulduar, ICC, best zones, Death Knights, perfect balance of accessible + hardcore.
2. Legion (2016) - Brought WoW back from the dead after WoD. Amazing class fantasy, Mythic+, best legendary system in theory, Suramar, great raids start to finish.
3. Mists of Pandaria (2012) - Hated at launch for "pandas", now considered top 3 for class design, raids, and daily systems. Throne of Thunder and Siege are all-timers.
A
4. The Burning Crusade (2007) - Defined what WoW endgame could be. Outland still loved, but very dated and attunement-heavy.
5. Vanilla (2004) - Not the best gameplay, but the community, world feel, and sense of adventure is unmatched. Ranked lower purely on mechanics.
6. The War Within (2024) - The best launch since Legion. Delves, Warbands, and a much more alt-friendly philosophy fixed a lot of Dragonflight issues. Story is still divisive though.
B
7. Dragonflight (2022) - Excellent systems after Shadowlands. Dragonriding was a massive win, very alt-friendly, but story was weak and retention was an issue.
8. Cataclysm (2010) - The most divisive. Incredible 1-80 revamp and great early raids (BWD, Firelands), but endgame fell off hard with Dragon Soul and LFR.
C
9. Battle for Azeroth (2018) - Amazing art, zones, and raids, buried under terrible systems. Azerite Armor, corruption, and AP grind killed it. Most people agree it had the potential to be A-tier.
10. Warlords of Draenor (2014) - Great leveling, great raids, and then... nothing. Garrisons killed the social aspect and there was a year-long content drought. The ultimate "what if" expansion.
F
11. Shadowlands (2020) - Consensus worst expansion. Loved for its first month, then hated for everything else: Torghast, Covenant locks, story that broke the lore, Systems on top of systems, and 9.1 drought.
If you ask 100 WoW players, 80 will put Wrath and Legion in their top 2, just in different orders, and 90 will put Shadowlands dead last.
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Panda boys owe me sex.
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>>581542135
>>581542387
>>581544438
Do people even actually want abilities back??
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>>581547127
post examples
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>>581547261
I want tww outlaw
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>>581547261
in some cases, yes. for example enhance has absolutely nothing unique anymore. i highly dislike this version of it
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who was in the wrong here??
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>>581546153
/ourguy/ is metzen, for accelerating the decline
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>>581547269
I don't have any examples that aren't porn.
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>>581545454
i just wish i could mount in the first section, its a vibe tho honestly
>>581545454
ecodome was a pile of shit
hate that fucking dungeon
>>581545970
its hard on the healer desu tank is only busting their ass on the first and last pull
the devour mobs in VSA are what you're talking about imo
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>>581547000
The orange twink vulpera? what do you like about him
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>>581547504
you got a 50/50 at blaming the hunter. Its your best bet
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>>581547261
Most people seem quite happy with thing as they are right now sadly. I think rotations are too similar to each other. I don't mind it being simpler but I hate things are they are right now.
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>>581547504
That "??" is a classic hunter gambit. He for sure did it.
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>>581547261
>Do people even actually want abilities back??
uhhhhhhhhhhh
yeah
my mainspec lost 8 fucking buttons
i want every single one of them back
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>>581547127
I should slop more panda
Once I figure out v.5 a little more
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>>581547261
I'd love bursting shot and explosive trap back on my hunter.
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>>581547851
I need more of him for my collection.
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>>581547716
>>581547769
i can't trust you guys because this thread is full of rets
BUT i did tell the hunter to md me on the second boss and i'm almost positive he accidentally pressed it on the ret because he got one shot and i had to rez him
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>>581545970
Unfortunately Blizzards idea for dps busywork usually boils down to turret mobs for them to knock into the aoe group.
Which feels miserable if you're in a lazy group and not a dk.
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>>581547851
why's he steamin?
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you know what would bring back retail?
Xal'atath asking me to help her secure Azeroth's soul and in exchange she'll get her a physical body and my reward would be a steaming hot threesome, full cinematic too!
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>>581548386
Worgen men just do that.
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>already at the point of the season where people would rather have a worse healer for skyfury
two seasons in a row i have to shelve my fucking paladin for my dk
its literally the same sitch from last season where if the group doesn't have a shaman in it, you're literally not getting invited! haha!
sad shit man
total shaman death
remove skyfury blizz i'm fucking begging
shit is broken
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>>581548767
Nyo
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>>581548409
I haven't played in 10 years but Sylvanas getting her tummy back out would get me to resub
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NEXT SEASON WILL HAVE..... M+......... ARATOR................ JIMOTHY REMAINS AVAILABLE.............. DELVE........................ WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ARENTYOUEXCITED
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>>581550052
>WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ARENTYOUEXCITED
this one just started
and the pool for next season isn't much better than this one desu
also i think spec based rewards are reddit shit and the only people asking for them are people who would never make the cut anyways so its not worth bringing up but apparently we're designing by committee now so fuck me
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>>581548767
Elemental and resto are both meta my dude. Just fucking play the game.
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>>581550278
>this one just started
This shit legit feels like we've been in this season for 6 months already fuck me
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>>581550052
Just wait bro, when TLT releases, everything CHANGES
8 new dungeons
4 new zones
1 new raid
and more
Trust the plan.
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>>581550320
fuck you cunt
fuck shamans
skyfury shouldn't fucking exist its literally like basketball american gibs and ruins the invite economy, its bad enough you have bloodlust which would be fine if not for fucking skyfury
fuck shamans
#totalshamandeath
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So I am new to WoW. Got another tank question. I installed this addon called oilvl. I was wondering why I was doing well on some runs but other runs were fails. I saw some dps still being ilvl 253 with the addon when I joined groups. Is this normal? Are they expecting to get carried? Feel like thats way too low for a +3 key
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I don't even feel like pushing to 3000 in my main because most dungeons are ass. Altar of Fangs and The Blinding Vale are fine but everything else can burn in hell.
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what hunter pet do you run nowadays for dungeons
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>>581550538
It's a little low but a +3 is totally doable with that ilv
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>>581550538
253 was low ilvl for s1
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>>581550493
>This anon
>pic related
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>>581548959
>Bring back Sylvanas' tummy in the new wc3 campaign
>But cover up Whitemane's thighs
baffling
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>>581550561
I basically only do Temple and I love it
still haven't gotten the fucking ring though
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>>581550869
The last boss of temple is so ass
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>>581550792
>we don't do that on germany!
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>>581550916
it's not even a boss and it's omega easy
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>>581550823
No way they did this
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>>581550369
tinker will unironically save wow
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>>581550369
You all did this. Every time you do a maze+ key or raid you tacitly agree: we only care about hecking damagerino and rotationerinos.
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>>581550538
To put it in perspective, you are inviting people to your key who are too lazy to do one pass of the current world content that sharts out 270+ gear
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Is there any way to enjoy world PvP in retail WoW? I quit in BfA after they got rid of Honor Hold camping.
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>>581551146
Given how often Blizzard likes to play the part or a malicious djinn and twist our wishes, I'm expecting Tinker to be called Artificer and be 100% Titan tech driven.
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>>581551767
>Is there any way to enjoy world PvP in retail WoW?
You do not unless you are playing Alliance on Moonguard or enjoy getting piled
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>>581551767
Blizzard has tried to revive world pvp many times but they never manage. Better to play Forever if you enjoy that.
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>>581551874
>and be 100% Titan tech driven.
The teaser confirmed it's titan related
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>>581551767
remove dragonriding
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>>581551643
I didn't invite. I was just joining random groups to practice my routes. But yeah now that I think about it, it was probably a trap. They might have been trying to get their friends carried and then gaslight the tank if we wiped.
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>>581552161
Like the other anon said 253 was low last season.
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>>581552021
I have an ERP character on Moon Guard, looks like she's been downgraded to level 9 though. What do I do to world PvP with her?
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Will blizzard add world tiers in TLT?
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>>581552330
I hope not.
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>>581552381
why not? the open world needs some love
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whats the most populated EU server for horde
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>>581552509
>the open world needs some love
I agree but world tiers are not love just over buffed mobs and boring
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>>581552579
>Draenor, Kazzak, Tarren Mill
you pick.
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>>581552579
Tarren Mill for the cool kids, Kazzak for braindead retards
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>3 hours old
>only 119 replies
sad feels
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>>581552161
My mistake! I'd go as far as saying that they were probably just gigashitters since, if we assume these guys were helping their friend that happens to also be new to the game, there are substantially easier ways to gear a fresh toon to a point that doesn't make you a liability in low keys and if their friends weren't also retards they'd know that.
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>>581552912
Labyrinths... The Labyrinths will- Ahhhh! AHHHHHHHH!
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>we don't even get shitposters raiding our general like we did in 2021 anymore
we're truly forgotten, retail bros...
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>>581553624
Shadowlands shitposting was way more fun. Now its just meh. I guess thats why they call it MID night. Its just apathy. Not hilariously bad like Shadowlands but just average at best.
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>>581554356
I like this meme, but ribos was never actually empty, even during the peak of the exodus. ronically, wow feels much deader today than it did back then.
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Honest thoughts on female tauren?
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>>581553624
That QA felt like straight out of Shadowlands with how completely out of touch the devs are and it's a fool me once, etc. situation. There's no reason to pretend anything will get better now.
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>>581554936
Grim.
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The best we can do now, as male vulperas and other furfolk in these difficult times is to hug our pillows and yearn..
*sobs*
What are your homo WoW fantasies or stories? let's hear them, melt my heart with the cuteness and purity of boylove...
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man, the amani used to be cool
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>>581555072
the interviews are even worse. this isn't a company wide issue at blizzard, but something specifically affecting the retail wow team. not only is ion hell bent on avoiding faction conflict, but he also considers midnight to be a dark expansion.

there is truly no hope
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cheevos: in
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>>581555640
The impression I've gotten of the team is that they've locked themselves into a bubble hardcore and just make up a different story for Midnight in their heads and agree on how amazing and loved it is with each other
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Isnt Forever literally a beta that wipes all your progress in November? If its this dead on a Friday night, just damn. Whats gonna happen when it actually comes out?
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>>581555758
factually the real test is how things are going to look come next year when 12.2 comes out followed by TLT full reveal like a month latre
if there's a considerable decline in numbers and the TLT reveal is a flop which seems more and more likely with how comatose all their leadership comes off in interviews and continually mumbling about after the saga, then you can say retail is in serious peril
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>>581555420
Gay rainbow necklace, gay pink hair and pink tusks, just another humiliation ritual for males
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>>581555640
Ion says Midnight is going to be a dark expansion... but honestly, wouldn't it be more alarming if midnight wasn't dark?
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Would you be fine if they gave important named npcs like Sylvanas more unique models in forever?
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>>581541957
If they do that i'll stick to forever, i don't want my rotation to feel like work and punish me for not pressing a button 0.001 seconds earlier
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>>581541957
You're asking if they're gonna add more buttons back to a demographic thats pushing 40 years old and are only staying because of sunk cost with their mogs mounts cheevos. Yeah, Id probably lean no
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>>581547851
Full?
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>>581554936
They're pretty nice
She looks like she's got a soft side to her despite her tough furry exterior
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>>581556382
Why don't you ask that in the Forever general?
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https://www.youtube.com/@Bellular-Warcraft/videos

>1 million views

MICK IS SWIMMING IN ALL THAT CASH
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>>581547261
I want them to remove the entire class talent tree and make all of that shit baseline or baseline to specs again like thunderstorm being elemental shaman only etc.
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>>581558530
this is the wow general for everything wow, not the wowrg
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>>581557758
Spot on
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>>581556775
It's nothing special
https://files.catbox.moe/e6vm06.png
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>>581558552
I wonder how much of that hype is genuinely about Forever, versus retail haters finally getting their glorious victory over it.
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whats the fastest way to lvl from 10? on a fresh account (region swapped) so I have no standing bonuses
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>>581559472
quests?
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>>581559656
better than just timewalking spam? and what zone, dragonflight into midnight?
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>>581559883
Get the addon follow the arrow. The dude that made it loves speedrunning leveling and has a good route. You can also mix questing with timewalking if you're dpsing.
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Less Forever spam today.
Are they actually confined to their thread or did the hype already die?
Either way, it's nice.
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>>581561604
there is no que this morning. i wonder if that shit is already dying
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>>581559883
just pick any expansion except tbc or wotlk
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Anons gimme a fun dps spec to pvp? Arena and BGs
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>>581562120
>Arena
rogue, any spec
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>>581554936
this >>581557758
If I ever get isekai'd into Azeroth I'd not stop until I get to Mulgore
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The amount of complaining about Forever made me a bit less hyped. People literally complaining about extra quests making leveling faster lol
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>>581562279
Rogue always seems so hard to play tho.
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she keeps bragging, bros...
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>>581561872
Realisation set in.
>"This is just fucking Classic again."
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Classic won bigly
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>>581562528
Why shouldn't she? She has millions of retards under her thrall who will pay billions to play the same game over and over. She literally cannot fail.
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>>581562873
i only come back to check if it even has actual discussion atp

turning WoW into a pseudo-esport lobby game simulator was such rancid shit design. No idea how ppl even play it
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>>581539790
WoW extended multiverse confirmed?
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>>581554936
I want female tauren to manhandle my pretty boy elf
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>>581562947
>She literally cannot fail.
Pretty much, that's why retail is so shit they got away with shadowlands ffs
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We need another way to get myth crests. 20 a week from delvin isnt enough.
Mythic raids are too hard.
Having to babysit retards in m+ as a tank isnt fun.
Last season was great with the rituals.
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>>581565013
Wen they remove crest caps, they'll add some other bullshit catchup mechanic that'll provide Myth crests as well. They always do these days.
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>>581565067
I just mean in general each season instead of having to wait like 10 weeks.
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>>581565013
Just do keys as dps
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>>581562528
I love her so much
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dead game lmao

forever november 4th
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>forever beta killed this season
grim
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Forlo players will come crawling back when they remember how boring the game is without delves
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>>581566159
DEAD GAME
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Huh. Didn't know it rained in Midnight Eversong.
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>delve
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is evoker fun? might try it since you can stay out of cumgaylizardtrans form for the most of the fight
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>>581566347
Visages are worse. Yes I know that doesn't say much.
I'm bad at the class, but I have fun with it when I decide to do a round of weeklies on it.
I like prevoker, though they sorta toned down the aspects of it I found fun from previous expansions.
I don't know what I'm doing with Dev beyond slapping buttons randomly, but I really like how Scalecommander kicks in every so often. It's like Four Horsemen, except flavourful for Dracs when other random Dracs just come flyby airstrike your target. It's fun to see, and one of the few hero talent specs that feel like its living up to previous acknowledgement that {Your Character} was leading your class back in Legion... even if Dracs are recent, but hey, you got put in Stasis already a Scalecommander, so whatever.
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i miss loli and shota gens from that night elf demon hunter
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>>581547061
Dragonflight is F tier
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>>581547061
Wrath and TBC should be switched
Yes Ulduar is great but it brought in Dungeon finder and that was the start of the end.
attunements are great
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Hopefully forever will make people see that flying was a mistake and it goes back to being locked behind an achievement
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>>581567059
you are retarded
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>>581566837
Retard
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>>581567059
Or you could just not use flying if you hated it so much.
Faggot.
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>>581565013
Rituals were .5 content so wait for 12.1.5 obviously
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>>581567059
They tried that in WOD and it failed.
The retail player base is just too mazed.
Honestly the worst part is they will try to infect Forever with their filthy ideas
>Make mob tags shareable
>I hate grouping up for elite quest, make it easier!
>I want my mount at level 10 like in retail!
>OMG, add M+!
>Can you put in LFR??
Hopefully blizzard ignores them but who knows.
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>>581565013
but doing +12s for myth crests is free. Usualy have 10 or more minutes left on timer how simple it is
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god i wish i were my vulpera
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Returning player here, how do I use these warbands apart from the "warband map to everywhere all at once" button? Should I be optimising levelling characters by putting them in warbands with high level characters or something?
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>>581567137
troon
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holy fuck finally don't have to play retail anymore

>>581567059
so true
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Skyborne is cata cut content, now everything makes sense
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>>581567650
warband is just a new name for account bound
it makes no difference who is on your starting screen camp
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>>581567758
Oh so it's purely cosmetic? Fuck me it's so annoying there's no way to move my dozens of characters except by clicking up and down over and over, and then it doesn't save across devices.
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>>581567650
Warbands are just an excuse to have most of everything account wide.
The only 'benefits' to gain while leveling is literally just other characters you have that are max level already, it'll increase xp gains by 5% per character, limited to 20%... So four characters.
Other than that, nothing matters. You can certain currencies (timewarped badges for example) over certain characters and send it all to one character if you want.
Otherwise they share a bank, they share (certain) reputations and you can trade items cross-realm to yourself via that bank so its easier to gear alts if they're not on the same server.
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>>581567845
It's not mandatory, I don't have any characters in a warband starting screen
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>>581567951
Do you just pull them out of Favorites and minimise it?
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>>581568009
yeah
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>>581567720
skywall wasn't the big giveaway?
i knew wow players were retarded but
wow
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Evoker tier sets are pretty good
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>>581568531
Fuckin' irrelevant is what they are. Stupid as hell most of it can't even be fucking worn on the Drac.
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>>581568531
your lizard will be naked.
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>pug a 12
>ret paladin doesnt interrupt a single time
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>>581569145
hes using SBR
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Sometimes i wish i was hunterfag
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>r*tail
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>581547061
@grok is this true?
fuck off with your AI takes (literal reddit mod takes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX365DdWvbU&
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>>581569740
many people were predicting a wow2 or a reboot after TLT. not the majority but a number of people. monkeys paw, I think it's gonna happen so that WoW Forever can just be called "WoW".
same way nobody thinks you're talking about rs3 when you say you were playing runescape.
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>engagement worse than shadowlands
>most retail players have switched to forever
Yeah it's actually over
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>>581569740
Meanwhile these idiots try their damndest to ignore the 'Retail-' analogy because it would imply that they're pretty much the ones catching the shit coming out of those sitting on the 'Retoilet'.

Enjoy that.
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>>581569740
NO ITS NOT LAST EXPANSION
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>>581570740
I wonder how much they regret pruning class and addon API and spending time on housing instead of just making fun content.
Or maybe they think it's great. who knows.
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>>581570909
far from it. game still prints them free money from thin air.
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Haven't played in years, how hard is it to make 400k gold these days?
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>>581573275
Just buy WoW token
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i have shitpost fatigue from wowg
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>>581566159
The game can only recover if the maze is gone
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why is silvermoon dead?
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>>581566159
>"retails poppin!" mf when any other game launch
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>>581566159
>Ion makes it so M+ players have to raid to get the best gear
>M+ players just quit
get fucked Ion
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>maze faggots quit because they actually have to do hard content to get gear
xD
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>>581567410
Sharable tags for named mobs is the only good change needed. Camping named mobs early for quest bottlenecks is pure aids
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>>581544962
it should be self-explanatory
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Is it possible to link a cooldown manager profile to a spec profile? I'll even settle for an addon that does it!
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classic question but the classic general is dead. Why is this ability phrased like this? What is the purpose of increasing your melee attack power but simultaneously decreasing your flat damage?
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>>581576110
>classic question but the classic general is dead.
not my problem.
get the fuck out of my thread
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>microsoft flushed the retoilet
They will take resources like devs, servers and marketing away from r*tail to "keep up with the ever increasing demands of Forever". You might not like it but all of this ends with TLT.
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Shadowglen...
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inshallah my friends
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>>581543659
I am a simple man.
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>Want to play some diablo
>bon't have dlc
>see picrel
>lose interest
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>>581580786
What more do you need besides D2
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>>581580786
>wow thread?
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>>581580786
Apparently D4 is pretty good nowadays but yeah. Not playing because it is too expensive for me.
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that retail end-of-service announcement is going to hit different
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>>581581332
You can experience that right now by end-of-servicing your own life
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Makin' the tears rain down like a
MON-SOON
Listen to the bass go BOOM
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https://files.catbox.moe/jod9zi.png
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>>581582008
still losted
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>>581580786
I bought D4, played it for 2 seasons, put it down mid-way through season 2 and just waiting for PoE2 to come out soon at that point. Never went back, never bought DLC, wrote purchasing that slop off as a loss and that's it.
I feel like DLCs in seasonal games are just farming sunk cost fallacy (like WoW lmao).
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>>581580786
>Diablo 4
But you have PoE2?
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>>581581332
>being so poor and brown you have to non-stop spam a general on /vg/ for literal cents
Go drown in Ganges you waste of oxygen.
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>>581582238
Cute
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>>581582008
>unranked
>defeat
embarrassing tbqdesu
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>it feels off and not part of Vanilla
>the skyborne project just sticks out like a sore thumb
>They've managed to be lazy where it matters (same race cross-faction, with the same starting zone but layered to just see Alliance players or just Horde players, re-skinned blood elves), and at the same time over the top where they should have toned it down.

Real people still don't like the Skyborne. I still think WoWforever going to fail and forgotten one or two weeks after the release.

I'm sure blizzard gonna flood us with some hype communications for two or three months and then they will abandon this project as usual and find a new toy to sell us.
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>>581582731
Can't imagine getting 10 rating for a whole ass BG. Bet you'd lose like -60 if you didn't win because of retarded elo calculations. Disgustingly outdated and time-wasting system. Same with M+ but at least you don't lose score there.
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>>581582861
They really should have just added Blood Elf and High Elves to Horde and Alliance AND given us a new race
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>>581583165
OH PLEASE
These people have never stepped outside of their houses
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>>581583165
>other games have done this who knows how long
>blizzard does it years later
>wow players be like no one has ever done this before and it's breathtaking
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what's the better choice between ret and enhance if i want a strong, fun melee alt for keys
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https://x.com/Grummz/status/2101082710815248849

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>581583165
this is just the hub world from DS2
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>>581583684
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>581583389
Cool, but they nerfed dungeons so they give a fraction of XP so nobody will run them besides the first quest run and you will never see a druid wearing this outside of beta.
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>>581583389
we have that in retail
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>>581582238
dumb goldthyr
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>>581566347
it's genuinely the jankiest worst feeling class I've ever played
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>>581583857
Forever isn't for retards rushing to 60
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>>581554936
pretty, warm and motherly, top tier girls
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>>581584313
Cope harder, brown cuck.
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>>581566347
It is yeah. I've been maining one for 2 expansions now as a CE raider. Being a mobile caster feels broken.
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logged my old guild mfw that hit me
hit me real bad
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>>581584374
My wobbly pale ass is whiter than your milk, Juan
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>>581554936
>durotar trumpet music plays interrupted by the sounds of mooing and plapping
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>>581584883
why did you have to specify wobbly
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>>581584997
I'm new to shitposting
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>>581584834
Some of my friends or knew that I played with are dead, that what 23 years does :(
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Bros???
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>i click retail thread but all i get is "forever" slopa
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>>581582238
Rape.
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>>581583165
100%fake

It's like people faking IRL just to make a wholesome post on twitter/facebook/reddit just to farm imaginary points
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Guys, I just did the new dungeon in Forever WoW... I had more fun doing that than anything I did in retail over the last month or so. Retail is in big trouble if others had the same experience I did. I just want to play Forever more, more, more.
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>>581547061
I cannot for the life of me understand the wrath love

from a world and gameplay standpoint, it has everything people criticize retail for. Yes the world was cool but beyond that idk
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>>581566159
>ion finally gets his raid-or-die ballcrusher 9000 olympics patch
>everyone quits
well played
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WOW FOREVER CANT STOP WINNING
>buy unlimited stock of black lotus, arcane crystal, end game leathe etc
>FIXED PRICE
>CAPS THE MARKET PRICE OF THESE ITEMS
>THIRD WORLD BOTTERS CANT MAFIA THESE ITEMS AND INFLATE THE PRICE
>THE GOLD SPEND ON THESE BY PLAYERS DOESNT GET FED INTO GOLD SELLERS POCKETS
>GOLD SINK TO CONTROL INFLATION
WE KEEP WINNING!
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>>581585845
Retail is more serious, dark and hard fantasy.
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>>581585845
We're all sort of just waiting for Forever to kill Retail atp. There's no fixing this anymore.
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What's the best dungeon to run for spamming crests? Like, the quickest...?
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But my mountsmogscheevos...
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>>581585897
its harder to make gold then
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>>581586220
This is where WoW token steps in
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>>581586296
gold sellers and bots*
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>>581586129
Den feels pretty quick. Whatever you pick, run it on 10 or 11 for the affix as it'll unironically run faster with the buff than 12s. Also don't forget you can get crests from delves, like 20 myth and a trillion heroic from bountiful +11s and you can double the loot at the end once with dundun's abundance and two coffer keys.
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only today in booty bay during pirate day
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>>581586748
is it live on na?
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>>581586748
thanks
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>>581586748
In booty bay you say?
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i know i'm behind the curve, and it know its early in most of burgerland, but i logged on to try to push some 14s/15s and there's nothing. there's no fucking keys. its bleak.
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>>581586931
thats silvermoon
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>>581586962
I see may groups right now
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>>581585450
What would happen to my shadow priest penis if I fucked her?
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>>581586962
very few people grind wow after the few weeks of a patch, nobody is staying subbed just to run keys unless they're pushing title atp
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>>581574558
>hard content
Raiding isn't hard, it's obnoxious. You either blow hours pugging and failing with absolute retards from ethnically problematic servers or you're tied to a schedule with a guild like a job, which is the complete antithesis of m+ where you can log on and run a key on any day at any time with whoever you'd like. Nuking m+ to promote raiding doesn't generate more raiders, it just makes people lose interest in the game entirely. Or move to wow forever I guess.
>>581586962
This season is pretty shot if you're behind the curve. You're either running weekly 10+++ for crests or you're doing 18/19+ with humans with functional brainstems. There isn't really a healthy population of people pushing in the middle key level range like previous seasons.
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Wow the den mother stunned me from 90% to 0%. That was fucked up, I was spamming my potion but it just never went off. How are you suppose to know this type of thing. They should’ve added like dark souls bloodstains on the ground so you could see how other people died, and also have like a community rated style message. This hardcore shit is fucking gay but im getting pretty good at Elwynn, you just don’t do it is all.
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>>581586129
RLP and Voidscar Arena. Running them feels like dogshit though because they're annoying by design.
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>>581586962
>new thing going on
>regular thing is a bit slow
shocking revelation
If I had beta Id be playing it right now instead skilling fishing.
Yet I have no intention at all of abandoning retail.

People act like its their first day on the internet over and over and over these days. WoWs gonna slow down when GTA6 launches too m8.

WoW has slowed down mid patch mid expansion literally dozens of times now. And yet its still here and has not been over.
People have been wailing that wow is doomed EoS in two weeks LITERALLY since tbc launch. I was there, I member.

WoW is like the most immovable juggernaut of gaming, it is the most profitable and reliable title in Microsofts/Blizzards VAST collection of IPs. I have no idea why retards are wailing that its over. Forever is not going to harm retail, the two of them together are going to reinvigorate WoW in a growing way, as has been going on since Dragonflight.
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>>581585897
black lotus 1x was 100$ in 2021
that is actually good
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>>581586962
I'm waiting for my 9/6M gear and only pushing after. We didn't even have a x.x.5 patch yet. So many more nerfs and buffs to come, I simply can't be asked running on the hamster wheel if it's not for a weekly.
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>>581587350
arena is ok if you just skip the overseers lmao
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>>581587375
Yeah it’s profitable because they’re a company of predators. Blizzard products haven’t been good in over a decade. They’re just trying to keep you subbed so they can buy more boats and shit. They don’t care about the product they’re selling. They’re a band of digital drug dealers using psychological torture methods to trick your brains chemical release to keep you playing. It’s a complete fail from anyone on the outside, we take a look at the modern gameplay loop and roll our eyes. Look at that fag posting a pirate eyepatch, that’s the common denominator that’s left.
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>>581586129
probably temple of sethralis since its a literal hallway. the only annoying bit is the last boss.
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forever is kind of dead with xfaction ERP
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Apologize
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>literally every post online i see is someone saying "why does retail even get expansions anymore?" or something similar WRT forever's release
How does it feel knowing everyone is openly mocking the death of your game
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>>581588079
I think he accidentally brought about a renaissance era for WoW.
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is anyone still playing hardcore or is everyone on the forever beta?
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Forever doesn't have Demon Hunter = Trash
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>>581588215
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>>581588215
They get what they fucking deserve after all these years.
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>>581547061
Legion is the most overrated expansion ever.

It kicked off the start of the tranny furry races like Vulpera. Now every expansion it seems like we have some meme anthropomorphic race like Vulpera, Tortollen or Niffen.
They changed the running animations and combat animations. The Disney shit people complain about starts here.
Legendary system sucked.
The Ashbringer and other weapons are cool for about 5 min until you see 6 other people with the same weapon
Retreaded enemies from TBC along with tier sets.
Forgettable zones and dungeons and extremely mid raids aside from ToS and ATBT.
Reused garrisons that people hated but “loved” in Legion and just rebranded them as class halls.
Semen hunter was the most broken hero class since DK and ruined several BGs
They ruined paladin and shaman making them cucked hybrid classes and made them incredibly unfun to play which didn’t get fixed until Dragonflight
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>>581588428
this is possibly the most retarded post i've read this week.
congrats.
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>>581588602
Amazing job refuting my points troon
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>>581588428
>Vulpera
>Legion
First line and I already know a retard made that post
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>>581588742
>refuting a retards points
lol. lmao even.
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>>581588215

It feels fine, they've been hoping WoW died since Burning Crusade. Cataclysm didn't kill it, MOP didn't kill it, awful expansions like WOD, BFA, Shadowlands, etc. didn't kill it. Tranny dracthyr didn't kill it, gay centaurs didn't kill it. Other MMOs didn't kill it.

Retail chads keep winning and enjoying a huge game with tons of expansions, tons of content to do and tons of classes, races, transmogs, etc. while forevercels will get bored in 2 weeks with their 30 USD blue elves lmao
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>>581589010
damn wtf is wrong with that guy
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>>581588363
>
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>blizzard so pozzed that they removed his cock
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>>581589480
kek
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>>581588363
Demon hunter was the biggest kneejerk addition to wow, should have been necromancer
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>>581588428
This is what retail and /wowg/ has left
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>implying the first class added to Forever won't be Demon Hunter

It was on the fucking box, guys.
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>>581586748
Fucking where?!
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>>581590684
Necromancer, demon hunter, death knight, and tinker are pretty much quintessential World of Warcraft.
The fact that any class was added to WoW before any of these is just retarded.
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>>581590732
pirates day is not up
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>f5
>zero new posts
dont worry bros

kithix will save us o algo
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>class tuning so phoned in that I don't even wanna play
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>>581591785
Only tinker I remember from WC3 was the neutral tavern hero. Death knights were erased after WC2. Necro I agree with but they probably needed 3 specs, had a necro in Diablo 2 already and had a similar class which is warlock.
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>>581592371
>Death knights were erased after WC2.
but wc3 had dks
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>>581592417
Yeah my bad completely forgot about the hero.
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>>581587307
notice how you didnt talk about the actual content at all? just some random shit?
>M+ isn't hard, it's obnoxious. You either blow hours pugging and failing with absolute retards from ethnically problematic servers...
mazies really need to ack themselves
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>>581591785
>The fact that any class was added to WoW before any of these is just retarded.
You have to remember blizzard went full retard with the wow development, they said they planed a release with like 20 races and 20 classes because they had no idea what they were doing back then.
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>>581547504
Lithiel Cinderfury for selling fel infused mana wyrms
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>>581550792
SI:7 doesn't want you to know about the Kurzen incident.
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>open stream
>blood dk got buffed, don't tell blizzard
oh n-
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>>581547504
>name length/class/server all imply this could me
sweating
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>>581593042
did you mdd the tank?
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>>581593132
no but there's pretty much zero chance a ret is going to asspull if a hunter or arcane mage are within 100 miles of the group
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>>581593337
if the tank went to the entrance right/left area the ret could easily buttpull
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Are there any good EU heroic raid pug communities/discords? My guild only raids 2 nights a week and I'm locked in on playing my DPS main there, but I want to gear my alts too. Group finder pugs are an absolute shitshow.
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>>581593337
It's always a ret because they have half the IQ of a mountsmogscheevos BM hunter grandma.
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Forever was like an atomic bomb dropped on retail wow. not even rs3 died this fast
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>unholy is bugged to hell
>its to bugged the next round of buffs is irrelevant because you can't even play blightfall
>frost is a tranny dw spec
Cursed class.
>>
When you play an elf you actually play a troll. Let that sink in.
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>>581594185
>frost is a tranny dw spec
People have done +21s with 2H weapons on Frost, what's your excuse?
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>>581594737
name 2
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any numbers out for the buffs/nerfs or are we still on the wowhead tears phase
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>>581594838
warcraftlogs.com
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>>581594950
>there are totally people 2hs 21s lil bro!
>cant post a single log
that's what I thought
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>>581594853
What do you mean? They're up.
https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/class-tuning-incoming-22-september-629804
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>>581594853
Gotta check the discords that's where the autistic numberfags post data.
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>>581595062
yes the numbers as in how much cleave/st change for each spec that every news site is waiting to steal the data for to post their "article"
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>>581595189
wowhead usually post that during the maintenance after the discords mapped the whole thing
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>>581594996
I'm not doing your homework for you nigger. Play whatever the fuck you want but "wahhh it's a dw class" when the difference between dw and 2H is 0% is retarded.
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>>581591798
yes it is. lasts 6 more hours till midnight
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>>581595532
>I'm not doing your homework for you nigger
>when the difference between dw and 2H is 0%
LMAO clueless
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>>581595532
there are only two fdks in the world that have cleared a 21 and neither of them are 2h, why even come here and shit your pants this hard if you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about?
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HOLY

https://x.com/Fairytaleinf/status/2101130483182526718

CLASSIC / FOREVER CHADS ARE LITERALLY 10X WHAT US KEKED RETAIL PLAYERS USED TO BE!!!!

I KNEEL TO MY RACIST AND BASEDIST OVERLORDS.
>>
None of you would last a day in the shoes of a delveTITAN
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>>581595860
our thread is already dying
our game is EOS'd


just let us die in peace
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>>581595942
I mentally raped all the delvetrannies when nullaeus was released
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>>581595860
>pay to play a beta
>get banned before actual release when they send a wave
Genius.
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>>581588079
WoW when it's not being raped to death by Ion Hazzikostas
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alive thread
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>>581597117
there is nothing to do until .7
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>>581597250
Yeah, I just raidlog. And when .7 comes I might push M+ but probably not because I can't be asked. Gonna be the same in Forever by the way, they can't escape this unless they force people to do dailies for player power.
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>>581566159
Sad bro
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has "we can't talk about the next expansion because spoilers!!!!" ever been an issue at any blizzcon before this one
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>>581561604
>>581561872
people probably just realized that theres no point to nolife a lvl 20 beta
shits going to fall off a cliff after a month or two of launch in the first place
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>>581597603
speaking of raidlogging the hof is not going to fill unless they giga nerf ulatek, I should stack coins until they nerf heroic as well

>>581597716
that's the problem with announcing 3 expansions in a row
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>>581597716
It was so pathetic hearing it honestly. You can just tell no one in the room was buying that excuse
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>>581597716
We're only finding out now that Xally definitely went for the worldsoul (although it was so fucking obvious when she just beamed downwards after 12.0).
I don't know why they're so scared to reveal anything. They spoiled most of Legion at Gamescom before it was out. Literally said Gul'dan is getting killed and that wasn't even the 1st tier.
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>>581597716
They want some sort of "thrilling" end to the Midnight expac to send us into TLT. I dont think they'll be able to justify even developing Retail by the time TLT is done...
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>>581598142
>don't know why they're so scared to reveal anything
Because right now the focus must be forever, it must became it's own thing in order to establish their current business plan.

>They spoiled most of Legion at Gamescom before it was out. Literally said Gul'dan is getting killed and that wasn't even the 1st tier.
That's because wod killed the game so hard they had to do something to create hype.
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>>581574558
its not hard
its hard getting 20 retards on the same page when english isn't their first language
its a timesink
i need one more item off ulatek for my mainspec and then i gotta try and do it on my alt but the gear i can get in mythic plus is only good for blood and i want to play frost in raid but i'm going to be hurting for crit and mastery so i won't do any fucking damage and now i'm going to have to watch at least two hours of dratnos vods to figure this bullshit out
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>>581598425
l2p
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>>581582731
bgblitz is a meme but r*zor is 700 points over you lifetime high
moron shitter
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>>581585845
>I just did the new dungeon in Forever WoW... I had more fun doing that than anything I did in retail over the last month
i can believe that if you're a melvin
bye nigga
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>>581587307
>Nuking m+ to promote raiding doesn't generate more raiders, it just makes people lose interest in the game entirely.
This is the lesson blizzard needs to learn. Raiding is a niche activity nowadays.
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>>581590684
demon hunter would be so fucking busted in a classic setting
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>>581596538
Yeah im fucking boggling at the retards doing this.
Like do they this it doesnt count cus its beta or something?
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>>581586972
everywhere's booty bay if it's a bay and I'm there
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>>581598546
weird, I remember raping him to death in a twin peaks match
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>>581594185
feel like frost is only better with dual wield if you have cantrip weapons and set bonus from guillotine
my sim literally told me id lose damage crafting 1h weapons
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>>581598948
The hall of fame wasteland this season will kill ion
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i am still not my vulpera.
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>>581598490
you want to tell squish to l2p? he was in my clear this week
moron
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>>581599225
>gets benched from his own guild's raid
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>>581599270
The thing is frost is a really, really bad spec unless you have cantrips and fucking bis gear, that's why it was so bad on release and got 5 rounds of buffs all the balance was made around people using full bis.
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>>581599284
I think this was some desperate last-ditch attempt to save the modern game's clinging to raids.

It's a 5man lobby game in all but name now. I think Ion resents that fact but has no idea how to change it.
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Stopped caring about wow after they killed the Sylvanas x Anduin ship, was I wrong
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>>581599445
I didn't get benched, I stepped out because I wasn't locked in
Try again
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>>581598948
>Raiding is a niche activity nowadays.
>>581599284

And all this is because Ion keeps making raids with 28 gorillion mechanics and ultra tight gear checks instead of making shit acessible and fun for average players.

Ion and max need to be publicly crucified for the damage they have done to wow pve with their tryhard 37 mechanics shot caller bullshit.
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>>581599436
never heard of you low elo clowns
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>>581599360
You might not be, but others still have a chance. Buy a remote island and start an unethical human breeding project. Just get the world's hairiest woman and some random midget.
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>>581599759
k, javier
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>>581599614
raiding was still popular and kept people playing but the horrible changes of making everything super hard this season its fucking m+, heroic AND mythic
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>>581599753
>Ion and max need to be publicly crucified for the damage they have done to wow pve with their tryhard 37 mechanics shot caller bullshit.
classic is right there for shitters like you
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>>581599614
>no idea how to change it.
simplify the fucking raids so ordinary players can do them without feeling like theyre playing baby mode.
Delete mythic raiding entirely.
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>>581599284
They promised to make the game more accessible. Removed addons, pruned classes and said that content will become easier as well in tandem with that. It didn't. L'ura was hard as balls, Ula'tek is hard as balls, more so than previous expansion's bosses. Encounter designers either didn't get the memo or there is literally 0 internal testing and they didn't know that what they're making is too difficult.
I'm saying this as a 2 day CE andy.
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I would like to raid, but it's such a massive pain
wasted 4 hours yesterday because fags kept resetting entombed sentinels for a single mistake and then the leader kicked everyone
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>>581600076
JOIN A GUILD, FAGGOT
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>>581599960
they already said this season is extra hard (raid wise) because of the coin and vault changes and yeah that wasnt even part of the original design
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>>581600109
nah
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>>581600109
No, blizzard need to drop the guild meme when they spent a decade fostering pug culture.
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>join guild
>go to raid
>see boss fight
>understand all mechanics after 2, maybe 3 pulls
>have to wait for 20+ other retards to catch on
there's no fix for this.
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>>581599693
you were too drunk to remember i see
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>doesn't do the hardest content
>doesn't get the best gear
shrimple as that
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>>581600194
this is a cop out excuse honestly, mythic 10s which you can coin for (shitty)myth loot are probably as difficult as tww 5-6s
they're dying to get you into a guild enviroment and the only way to do that is to make the raids borderline unpuggable, for the record they're definitely puggable but you need a raid leader thats going to shit can underperformers and people not executing mechanics which is honestly kind of difficult to find if you're not joining a guild reclear or raiding on tuesday wednesday
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Realistically speaking, how long will it take for forever to replace retail as blizzard's main wacraft game?
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anyone bought the australian mcdonald for the beta code?
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>>581600748
furthermore all the encounters in the raid BESIDES altar and ulatek are pretty fair for heroic level fights
the last two are more challenging than the first 4 on MYTH last tier
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>>581600938
20 years but by then retail has gotten another 10 expansions so forever needs 40 years but by then retail got another 10 expansions...
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>>581600938
won't happen
this is a rerun from 2019 except it will die faster because it has less content
the studio is banking on hardcore onlyfags carrying the middle of the six month slumber until new content
pretty pathetic honestly
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwXC3B3m3qQ

shouldve gotten this instead of the maze
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>>581600706
You guild hop until you find a good one that's up your alley. Judge them on world rank. I found a sweet spot around 600. Then I hopped around that WR based on how much toxicity you can tolerate.
>>581600938
Until the next saga is over, so I'd say around 7 years.
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>>581599614
Start by reducing instance size. Expecting the average player to schedule raid night alongside 20 other animals in 2026 is mad.
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>>581600748
not to mention the m+ loot is unusable trash
a lfr item from ulatek is better than a m+ 334 item
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>>581601379
that only works if you have recent CEs bro
you're basically asking mazies that haven't raided seriously for years if ever to go farm heroic logs to save 3 hours of time a week on the front side of a patch
where the fuck do you even start? wr2000 that might not even have aotc yet?
fuck that man, why do i have to prog with morons when i've already cleared the content but i don't have mythic logs for 10 seasons running
its the problem with mythic raiding and why its been cannibalizing itself for years at this point
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I don't really care if raid loot parses better than maze loot by 1%. I'm not raiding either way.
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>>581601350
Mop classic is completely dead because no one want this trash.

>>581601454
Fucking this lmao.
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>>581597716
No because we didn't have one blizzcon every three years, we didn't have a slop saga and we didn't have microslop forcing them release slop patches and slop expansions this fast
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>>581601795
not that it matters anyway because you are in no position where having the best gear possible is needed
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I don't suspect anybody will know but I have no one else to ask - does anyone know where people like noname or liard get their environment models? Getting character models was simple, but the only thing I've been able to find environment wise was a single Zandalari tent
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>>581602026
I'm tech illiterate, can't help you bro
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>>581601912
Exactly. I never understood the obsession with having the best gear you don't actually need for anything.
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>retail wow 20xx
>"remember vanilla wow? it was so good..."
>private servers
>a lot of excitement to play original version of the game from 2004
>retail dying slowly with each patch since cataclysm
>"I wish there was classic servers"
>classic wow 2019
>people were excited about it
>hype did last for a while until interest died and players quit
>classic is dead
>"only classic+ can save wow"
>wow forever 2026
>people are excited about it
I feel like we are in a loop
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>>581601695
Yeah I have CEs of all the recent tiers, I just assumed you do too. How long climbing out of the bottom will take you is kind of a coin flip but you don't have to start with shitters that don't clear a tier.
My first guild was a 3-day WR 850 back in BFA and I had no problem getting in. And I didn't know anyone on the inside.
I know this sounds like "just walk up to them and give them a firm handshake" but that's how this shit works.
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>>581600938
If they listen to the community and the updates are constant? A year
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>>581602026
Liard does streams, you could ask him there.
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>>581599960
They will probably just allow weak auras back anyway. I heard liquid has their own team of programmers probably using Claude to get around this shit. All the addon pruning really did was screw over 95% of the playerbase
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>>581601350
see that should be bannable
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>>581602364
most boomer post ive seen
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>>581602554
they are adding more restrictions next tier because of the shit they can do with current restrictions
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>>581547261
Yes I want exorcism and eye of tyr back.
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>>581602607
Instead the devs encouraged it by adding rewards that were only possible with these exploits.
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>>581599445
>Quickest goalpost mover in the west
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>Read short stories written by Warcraft writers
>Emotional, pleasant, fun to read with respect to the characters and the setting, seriously the Karesh story is fucking great
>Actually play the game
>The story is dogshit

Why won't they just fucking give the writing to the people writing the short stories since obviously they know far better what they're doing?
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>>581602607
The only dev working on mop is actually tuning rewards around this group.
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>>581602961
because then they'd have to pay them
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>>581602941
>that were only possible with these exploits
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>>581603013
>>581602941
lmao that sounds like that guy that was killing shit for that m+ group in retail
but I guess nobody gives a single fuck about mop
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>>581603165
Is not that bad because he is not doing the dungeons for them but they decide the rewards, timers and that kind of stuff.
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>>581603037
Short story writers still get paid. Just fire the current ones and replace them with the clearly better writers instead of whatever dogshit the modern WoW team is producing.

You can see it by simply seeing the Zul'jan and Zul'jara short stories and seeing - wait, they just fucking completely contradict this in the fucking game.
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>>581600938
They need to make new tricks for players to keep them interested.
See Classic, Era, Anni, Classic (expansion), Classic Hardcore, Classic SoD and now Classic+ & Classic+ Hardcore.
All of this is has happened between 2019 and 2026, 7 years, and as you can see - there's new version of classic every year. Remember when they wanted to make new expansion for retail every year? I guess this is it.
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>>581602961
Because you actually gotta pay writers. Its easier to just use chatgpt
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>>581600938
Realistically speaking I think you're fucking retarded if you think they ever want a reharsh of an older version of the game to be their flagship title over the actual live version.
So to answe the question, when WoW 2 comes out.
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>check retail thread
>There's like 2-3 retail players dooming about classic but they are too low iq to do actual good psy ops to kill classic
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>>581602554
Yeah we used MeekAuras for some bosses in S1 and then when the big addons like Northern Sky caught up we started going with just that. Nothing changed in comparison to the previous expansion except for addon names and ways to see/input information.
For mythic Twin Fangs for example we have a whisper macroed to our interrupts and the addon will show a guy it's his turn to interrupt. Blizzard can't win.
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>>581602961
Because it's Commiefornia and thus replacing women and trannies with half-competent people is against the law there.

Also no self-respecting talented writer wants to work for modern Blizz.
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>>581603165
Not quite at that level but he's discord butt buddies with these people and added a mount basically only for them since they kept all their exploits under close guard for the first challenge mode "season"
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>>581603503
why would I want to do something j*wis* you want to tell the audience something about yourself?
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have you guys noticed how these threads became 200% more civil and bearable ever since the unsavory individuals moved over to shit up the wow forever thread
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>>581604249
nelfcuck was kind of annoying but his presence enraged a lot of autists and it's good he's gone
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>>581603503
holy mental illness
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>>581604249
what do you mean
im still here
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I hate that the naga are back and Nymrissa is a boss because it means they'll be bringing back and ruining the best female antagonist in this stupid-ass game soon.
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>>581604249
I did notice.
Slower thread, but pleasant.
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>>581604541
he was beyond "kind of annoying"
he was an offmodel slop *spamming, samefagging avatar abuser*
If hed just posted not and then it would have been no big deal, but he would show up post many many times in succession, samefag himself and do his level best to make the thread about him, personally. Whilst also being a repulsive cuckold.

Everything about him was negative and I hope he remains gone.
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>>581602961
>Karesh story is fucking great
qrd?
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what's the fastest way to gear up a fresh alt that isn't "ask your friends to spam +10s with you"
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>>581604249
>>581604249
>newfag "falseflagger" that thinks he's high iq doesn't know the doomers always come from the XIV thread have disappeared here entirely and are spamming the Forever thread desperately
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>>581605054
>use all of your warband gear on it
>que your own key
>?????
>profit
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>>581605054
ask a friend to spam +12s with you
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>>581604973
There is a free audiobook of "fall of karesh", just have a listen to it.
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>>581605054
LFR + Preys + Bountiful delves (and one mapped delve). You can also craft somewhat good items with veteran crests and no sparks used.
Then normal raid into +6s into +10s into heroic raid, and sparked myth crest crafts.
And what other Anon said about warband gear.
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>>581539592
>>581539790
>>581539927
It dosent make sense, the timeline already changed with the existence of Forsaken Paladins and that OC protagonist of the new Forsaken campaign of W3
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>>581605746
>cool mog
>cancer race
many such cases
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>>581605746
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I don't think I'm imagining it... There sure is a lot more blue clothed, purple haired Elves wandering around the Horde wing of Silvermoon this patch...
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>>581604249
they're still shitting up the thread
NC is still nasty to anyone who likes things he doesn't which i support for most of the shit he whines about but not when its MY thing.
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>Blizzard massively buffs racials in forever
>Night elf racial still one of the best if not the best
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Forever won...
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>>581606171
alliance colonizers.......
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Horde sisters... why do the chuds hate us?
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>Illidan basically confirmed to be coming back to remove the sword in the recent Q&A
So what's it gonna be? Riding on Sargeras' head? Absorbed him and titanforged? Absorbed him and... felforged?
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this place here is on life support
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>>581607031
pull the plug
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>>581606912
I mean demon hunters have demon souls inside them. Maybe she eated Sargeras
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this is a "retail" lead artist btw. you can't tell me that behind the scenes blizzard isn't trying to replace retail with forever
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>>581605746
>>581606030
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>>581607289
why is your booper green?
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>>581607224
thats an ethot that gave birth on livestream
shes not on blizzards payroll
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>>581607357
Ate out Ula'tek's cloaca.
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>>581607357
It's not easy being green.
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>>581607031
honestly its kind of nice
we can actually have a discussion about the game instead of morons replying to rage bait
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This fox just told me
>"My kind kills for less, you know..."
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>>581607224
It's just easier to start over at this point than try to fix retail.
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>>581607543
can I see the tramp stamp
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>>581607543
maybe if you had more discipline and tact she wouldn't say those things
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>Talking to a guy from /wowg/ for a day or two
>Really kind and a little pushy, calling me cute
>Don't know how to react to it
>Messages me a short while ago
>Tell him I'm busy with my bf
>Says it's fine and that he doesn't want to be a bother
>Go to message him
>He removed me
That's a shame. I was going to ask if he wanted to ERP.
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>>581607031
>tranime
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I want to grab a Vulpera ear and pull really hard
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>>581607224
>>581606891
what a weird shitposting
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>>581607889
this is why retail is dead
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>>581607889
This is why wow died
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>>581608365
Degenerates and porn are like 10% of its success if I'm being conservative in my estimation. They were openly catering to footfags at Blizzcon.
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>>581607719

>>581607745
Look, the Silvermoon outfits of each colour for each organization also come with dignitary masks.
If she didn't want her snoot booped repeatedly, maybe she should wear one.
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>>581608740
I can't imagine those fuzzy undies to be comfortable under that armour.
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>>581608649
catering specifically and only to footfags and furries, what a brilliant decision, that's surely gonna bring the good cash-money audience
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>>581608740
thanks pookie
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>>581608194
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>>581607224

I met my husband in ESO and forced him to move to wow
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>>581605469
>the timeline already changed
source?
>new Forsaken campaign of W3
not canon
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>>581609286
My footfag guild officer is a massive paypig. Has basically infinite money because of his good job and buys every slop product Blizzard makes.
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>>581608805
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>>581609571
now imagine how many more paypigs would exist if they made actually appealing character models, armor, and weapons
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hey

you guys uh... alive? /wowg/?
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maybe come back in the last month of the season to push r1 but then again who cares it's the same every season they really need to reward people for playing/grinding the whole season
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>>581610820
ya whatsup
i'm grinding out myth crests on my alt
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>>581610820
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I'm too lazy to swith i will continue to play paladin
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>>581611420
Why do you want to swtich? Ret is insane, holy is insane and prot is a tank so you get insta invites.
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>>581539237
love wowg anons!!!
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I love troll women!
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Genuinely help me. I'm getting addicted to Forever... Save me, wowsisters.
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>shoot the naga
>more come out 9 months later
Stupid fucking landwalkers, am I right?
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>>581612108
stay over there
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>>581612108
You're a lost cause.
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>>581610820
*coughs blood*
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>>581605054
>Ask your friends
You all really got friends that play this shit still?
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>>581611420
Human White Male Paladin is literally the best class in the game since you can self insert and you get instant invites to keys even if you suck since the game is dead and theres a tank shortage
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>>581612602
Yeah, just enough for a full 5-man.
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Where is Sylvanas now? Is she safe? Is she alright?
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>even reddit is turning on retail-
LMFAO
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>>581608649
>Degenerates and porn are like 10% of its success if I'm being conservative in my estimation. They were openly catering to footfags at Blizzcon.
WoW is turning into Overwatch
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>>581613067
Explains why the porn is better than the plot...
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>>581613067
>Overwatch
>Overwatch 2
>turn Overwatch 2 into a Overwatch
Uh oh
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>>581612826
She's emoposting from the Shadowlands.
>>581613067
>implying it's only started happening now
>he wasn't jerking off to blackchain's and azazel's smut pre-2010
Damn, you guys are new.
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>>581613379
that's what I was thinking lmao this newfag think this is somehow new
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>>581613379
>>581613428
Check out these newfags
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Should I start gearing a Bear? Haven't played the spec since DF.
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>>581610820
*shits pants*
*dies*
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>>581547061
>legion S tier
Fucking retards keep getting more legion since Legion and now they dont like it. Its as if the only thing that made it interesting was "OMG THE BURNING CRUSADE IS BACK"

>Mythic+ ruined the game
>Suramar fucking sucked
>Everyone having the same weapons was retarded
>Class halls were just garrisons and more time locked bs
>infinite grinds were bad
>yet this expansion was "amazing"
Legionfags deserve the state of retail. Its exactly the same thing.
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>>581613490
I wish.
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>>581613823
>>Mythic+ ruined the game
wrong. repeatable content so im not locked behind weekly raid logging is a win.
>>Suramar fucking sucked
true. it's the worst zone in the game.
>>Everyone having the same weapons was retarded
we all transmogged anyway. and the effects that certain artifacts had was awesome.
>>Class halls were just garrisons and more time locked bs
everyone loved class halls and still do. some retards even liked the garrisons.
>>infinite grinds were bad
thats the entire mmo
>>yet this expansion was "amazing"
it was.
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>>581613823
just be honest and say "i am shit and hate m+" thats the only thing of substance in this post lil buddy
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>>581595660
anon went real quiet after this post
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>>581613823
BuT wE gOt To UsE tHe AsHbRiNgEr!
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>>581614913
I don't understand what's the problem. I'm the MC I have the real ashbringer.
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>>581614913
i dont play paladin and never will so i will never understand ashbringer memes.
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>>581605054
weeklies shit
timewalking shit (install an addon that tells you when someone can trade you gear)
delves
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>>581614997
It's basically the only paladin weapon any of them remember and/or know of, so that makes it the best by default to those idiots.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FboWF58kiTg

More SOVL than midwoke will ever have
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>>581615191
>horde kino
yeah fucking alliance trannies killing my wowowawa
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>>581547061
How is Mythic plus good? Isn't that the #1 reason Classic and Forever exist and people are more excited about nostalgia bait? I doubt forever fans are clamoring for mythic plus
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>>581615679
>I doubt forever fans are clamoring for mythic plus
Considering the biggest fan survey had m+ topping the requests they want something to do after raidlogging
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>Blizzard is Dead - Long Live BlizCorp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjb7tBZ3xRE

Ex-blizzard dev that worked on OG WoW, Wc3, etc. drops some knowledge.
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>>581615679
its literally all nostalgia bait.
it's the biggest you think you want it do but you dont moment ever.

and they caved. forever will be dead in a few months like the last 3 "classic" versions they tried. which is ironic given the name.
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https://youtu.be/Gjb7tBZ3xRE
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>>581615679
>I doubt forever fans are clamoring for mythic plus
Well yeah, they're not clamoring for anything because it takes forever to level. Once they hit the endgame and have that singular lockout again, the same series of events will repeat itself where they're fucking bored because they have nothing to occupy their time until raid time, which is also boring when they barely have to do anything by press #2 over and over again. Maybe sidestep some fire.
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>>581615191
So he just woke up as Undead months later after all the major campaigns for no reason?
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/it-be-pirate-s-day-get-ye-a-new-transmog-fer-yer-peeper-383003

Today only for NA
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*grinds vulpedo bones into dust*
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>>581616459
>New transmog
>It's an eyepatch... but its Brown!
HOLY SHIT!!!!
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>Dave so starved for attention that he has to spam his shit videos in multiple threads
Must have been a big ego hit when Turtle announced they were shutting down mere days after you were in their discord trying to claim the suit was "Dismissed with prejudice."
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>>581614383
Your shitty nephalim rift copy and paste content from Diablo 3 isn't good and will continue to kill the game.
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>>581615679
>How is Mythic plus good?
dont waste your breath arguing with these mf´ers

they actually think the "gogogogogo" and slap a timer mentality was the only thing they could have done with dungeons to make them more engaging.
M+ is the epitome of absolute triteness.

they could have added a ton of affixes (imagine like 7/8 at a time) and making the enemies hit like a truck and bosses with 1/2 more mechanics, add dungeon objectives, make deaths actually matter instead of the bullshit penalty you have now etc etc
but no, its much cheaper and lazier to simply add a timer and call it """"new content"""".

and that is just one (1) of the many issues legion brought to the game and due to popular demand (imagine my shock) they stay and are even further improved (read, shitified)
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>>581617308
>mf´ers
oof
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>>581613823
>>Mythic+ ruined the game
i always ask you subhumans why you believe this, i'm left on read every single time
>>Everyone having the same weapons was retarded
how is it any different than using a crafted weapon until you bonus roll your bis?
>>Class halls were just garrisons and more time locked bs
this is the last time anyone gave a flying fuck about the lore, can't imagine disliking it
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>>581616459
Where da pirate henchies in Org to start this?
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just canceled my sub. i will still shitpost here.
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>>581614295
>>581616028
>>581616130
buy an ad
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>>581617392
>i always ask you subhumans why you believe this, i'm left on read every single time
In a vacuum it's great, but infinite scaling content just brainfuck the playerbase like nothing else, people lose all agency and immediately become metaslave for the new OP comp/spec and decline everything else, despite 99% of them never going past +10
I actually was super hype for m+, have been asking for better 5man content since TBC and loved Legion, but I dont think we should have it again
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evoker feels kinda nice, wasnt expecting
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>>581618104
the only thing I dislike about dev is pyre
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Forever is pure SOVL
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>>581619274
Retarded names are pure Reddit humor
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>>581619274
we are so back bros!
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>>581619274
someone get that player a banana
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why no skiborne alliance paladin ser
please add
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>>581619274
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>>581619274
40 year old balding fat men btw
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>>581619274
>>581619609
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i finally did it. im free from this prison. goodbye forever wowg!
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>>581620909
cya tomorrow
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>>581620909
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>>581620909
Can I have your gold?
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>>581620909
>he thinks he's free
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>>581619274
so fucking stupid and retarded. That said, i still chuckle at some of these. I, of course, shall choose a cool as hell name that isnt some kind of pun but also isnt cheesy
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>>581619274
>>581619609
>>581620627
lmao the ai is going to have a blast with those reports
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>>581621142
they can't ban all of us
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>>581621307
the ai certainly can
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>>581621307
God I would love if it actually did just so it backfires on Blizz when it bans a ridiculously large chunk of the playerbase on them.
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>>581621452
I'm sure "fentanyl floyd" will win the public's opinion
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>>581621452
>backfires
what do you mean. how does mass banning chuds from your game "backfire"?
are they gonna shit and piss and cry all over twitter about it? are we gonna get a assmongler video about it?
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>>581619274
>>581619609
>mfw walking through the streets of stormwind
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>>581621452
>backfire
Nobody will give a shit except a handful of autists who would have gotten bored after 2 weeks anyway.
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>>581547061
MoP should be above Legion and right below Wrath, and Legion should be below Vanilla tbqh
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>>581608740
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>>581547061
>perfect balance following dk
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why, across all expansions and classic rereleases and pservers and meme game modes, do mages always believe they deserve to be the strongest class in the game?
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>>581621452
>>581621307
**no one** would miss the sorts of retards that would get banned for doing something some retardedly juvenile. It's like a 14 year old 9gag edgelord self report.

even semi-pro racists know better than to be so hamfisted.
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>>581623037
idk about class balance but casting a big fuckoff fireball or raw arcane energy seems like it should be stronger than your little faggy sword
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well the layering has failed completely, respawn rates too low, retards standing in line to turn in quests, and i assume it never lets up since the entire world is on the same server
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>>581621647
>>581621950
>>581622807
>>581623067
I more meant in the sense of there ebing so many that AI banning willy nilly would drop the playerbase some noticable percents that Blizz might actually consider fixing their god damn support.
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>>581600938
Forever lives and dies on how much they can milk the Vanilla era. Sky Elves were already controversial and at some point they will ultimately have to move the plot outside of Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms, even if they keep it forever level 60.
The black pill is knowing it's a simple ticking time bomb until they make 1 choice, 1 narrative update, 1 new zone that breaks the illusion for Classic fans before they swear off Holly again, start insulting Aggrend again and insist they get Vanilla again. Personally? I bet it'll be around the time they port AQ to Forever, that's when the magic will wear off when they realize they won't get the original AQ experience again because of the mega-realms.
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>>581623413
Sky Elves are probably only controversial online. Normies probably don't care because nothing matters in fantasy games besides Humans and Elves.
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>>581623597
Classic's main audience is the terminally online abeitho
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>>581623351
that's never going to happen, fixing false positives/mistakes its cheap compared to hiring a shitload of gms
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>>581623413
I dont think anyone will complain when they add northrend, or cataclysm zones(un ruined wildhammer highlands, unironic poggers)

I think they key to maining the feel will be:
>STAY AT 60
>Stay on azeroth
>Do not powercreep old content, simply add more raids and dungeons, zones and BGs
>do not EVER add ANY SORT of automated pve matchmaking, FORCE people to be social to do content.
>Continue to add a mix of "expected"/expansion zones and new regions carved out of the blank spaces+ the occasional new continent following the above rules.
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>>581624112
They do Northrend and finish the handful of Cata zones that aren't launching with the game, then what? They keep making up new Islands? They do their own version of Mists of Pandaria? They say fuck it and actually do Outland? Forever simply won't last with EK and Kalimdor alone and they certainly know this internally.
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>>581624112
>>STAY AT 60
so we can log in once a week to raid log lol
>>Stay on azeroth
i can appreciate this
>>Do not powercreep old content, simply add more raids and dungeons, zones and BGs
how are they gonna do this while not staying on azeroth/breaking the map like in cata
>>do not EVER add ANY SORT of automated pve matchmaking, FORCE people to be social to do content.
they're just gonna log off and play a different game like fortnite or call of duty or r*tail tbdesu with you fammy
>>Continue to add a mix of "expected"/expansion zones and new regions carved out of the blank spaces+ the occasional new continent following the above rules.
so just r*tail again
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>>581624112
>FORCE people to be social to do content
You can't force people to be social when all the content is free and you can pug it.
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There's a reason there's 3 Guild Wars. Stuff like Forever doesn't actually last forever.
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>>581623067
who cares
its worth a laugh even if its juvenile
you're not getting banned for any of those names in the first place
I take way more issue with people putting bussy, f*mboy, or the two bees and the sea in their names
>>581623351
they already revised the report feature coming into this expansion
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>>581624984
>fast-forward 10 years
>WoW Forever: Reforged
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seriosuly having an internal debate: should i buy the beta? Cuz i also want the reforged and new expansion and sure ill take the blue elves. I am very conflicted on whether to buy it or not. I am having a War Within myself
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>>581625241
Reforged + Expansion will go on sale eventually, and paying for blue elves sends a clear message that you want to be milked and that all future races should be pay to play.
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>>581624445
>>>Do not powercreep old content, simply add more raids and dungeons, zones and BGs
>how are they gonna do this while not staying on azeroth/breaking the map like in cata
they can't and they already said they can't
and they have to give you stronger gear with new content

their idea of horizontal content is putting dumb effects on the gear like the whitemane chapeau they previewed in the announcement presentation
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>>581625241
Just pick up reforged and the campaign. Beta isn't really worth playing right now because of the mega-realm issues and the 20 levels cap making said issues worse.
If you already own a wow sub you can play the full shit when it releases in november anyway without buying the sky elves
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>>581625379
They are adding retarded effects to gear to keep people farming
>Items may have special effects in environments such as forests, mountains, or underground.
>Items may also have special bonuses against creature types such as Worgen, Dwarves, or Dragons.
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>>581619274
I hope we can toggled off the second names.
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>>581624723
Pugging is a highly social activity.
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I'm bored and wanna raid. Normal raid doesn't offer any upgrades for me anymore.
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>>581626359
Its time to get a suit and prep for that job interview for a guild bro
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I remember when Diablo 4 was supposed to be Diablo's Forever game. Look how that turned out.
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>Disc priest gigabuffed
shouldnt have taken this long but oh well at least they did it eventually
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>>581626653
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>>581626673
Yeah but this time it'll be different.
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>>581624445
>>581624112
>do not EVER add ANY SORT of automated pve matchmaking
>they're just gonna log off and play a different game
all retail has for automatchmaking is LFR and random heroic dungeons, nobody uses that
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>>581604943
You're obsessed and disingenuous
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i have been wondering for a while now:
How the hell do i get a Human Female gf?
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>>581627209
I don't get what is the problem with LFR anyway. I mainly use lfr to practice on bosses. Would they prefer I just go in raw on normal pugs and have zero practice for what to do? I know you can watch youtube videos n shit before, but its not the same as doing it yourself
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>>581627209
And both auto que dungeons and LFR will get added to the game within a year as soon as this shit gets on Xbox anyway.
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for all the complaints about modern wow's soft disneyslop artstyle, i don't think this game has ever looked uglier than it did during cataclysm.
fucking bizarre artistic choices on so much gear and so many environments. the twilights hammer/elemental aesthetic was especially ugly.
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picture this, 5-man raids
the fun of raids are complex mechanics, the fun of mythic+ is incremental and quick
make smaller parties for faster grouping and more strict quality control, remove the timer and make the bosses get 1 more unique move every tier
how sucky would this be?
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>>581627837
We already had that. They were called Mega-Dungeons and they stopped doing them because M+ers hated how long it made their maze runs
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>>581627837
they kinda did that with dawn of the infinite already
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>>581627837
>remove the timer
okay, i'll wait out the sated debuff on every trash pull. give me my mythic track gear now, please.
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>>581627975
are you retarded? every mega dungeon was split in half lmao
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i did all my weeklies and all my nightmare hunts and my curse surges my bountiful delves (with delve map) and all my timewalking dungeons PLUS firelands and literally LITERALLY all i got was cloaks and bracers
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>>581628496
run some keys
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>>581627975
I'm a CE maze rat and I liked them. Deathless for real rewards was great.
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>>581627975
>>581628016
damn, but I didn't mean make dungeons longer, I meant make LFR wings into m+ dungeons

>>581628064
and bring back the timer, that was a good idea, I guess

that way, higher m+ levels would immediately translate into raiding experience and knowledge because the levels are incrementally adding the heroic and mythic raid bosses mechanics
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>>581619274
GO TO BARRENS LMAO!
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>>581567059
achievement really makes it worse with people rushing through just to knock it out for efficiency. the people who hate questing just hate it more and everyone else just gets roped into doing the linear thing first at all costs. it's like how locking world quests behind the introduction feels this time midnight. df was way quicker than this.

it could just be a 1 patch at the start of new content thing. keeps the slower people who want to stay on the ground economically closer to the people zooming around for herbs and shit like madmen. then give the free portals to seasonal dungeons/raids so the "i'm too good for quests" people shut the fuck up and that's the system.

>>581567180
making gold at about 1/5 the speed and questing at about 1/2 the speed of everyone else isn't an option you dumb fucking nigger. stop posting about this game anywhere ever.
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>>581628496
If you're still giga low do M0s. If you're not do M+6 into M+10.
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How do I make friends in Worlo without becoming an M+ gogogo autist with a metaspecc or a Raider
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>>581629478
ERP
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>>581567059
They experimented with locking flying behind achievements for WoD-SL.
Come Dragonflight they said fuck it, we're bringing back flying at the start and making an entire new system for it.
The people who hate flying lost and the people who like flying won, this won't change.
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>>581629478
By doing what normal people do and playing on RP realms, aka WrA and MG since every other realm is a dead joke
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>>581629597
I wonder how many people quit over the flying timegate
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Yummy
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>>581629189
>isn't an option
It is though, you actively choose to that or you don't.
Who gives a fuck if you're slower at the other things, since when is gold farming and questing a competitive sport. You either want to do it at your own pace or you want to do that shit fast.
Cope and cry about it.
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>>581629945
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>>581629945
you know its not smart to sort them by color right?They are from all across different expansions so that makes this completely disorganized, when you finally want to go back and access certain ones for one reason or another you won't be able to quickly sort through. I know it looks nice but please change it now
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>>581630265
I organize them by eatability.
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>>581630265
There's an autosort so he'll be fine I think.
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I got 3400 so I don't have to farm raids
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>>581631139
how does this make it so you dont have to farm raids?
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> 4chan WoW is full of forever posts
>reddit WoW is full of forever posts

All my based WoW communities have betrayed me
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>>581631204
I don't need raid gear anymore because I have 3400 and aotc
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zandalah forevah
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>>581631414
i still play retail anon its ok i just have nothing to post about
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>>581631414
Everyone hates retail WoW
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https://youtu.be/gB74SFACHqY
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>>581631807
lil bro trannyfantasy shitposting after ploos lmao
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>ip range blocked again
Why does fucking 4chan want my goddamned email again, I was posting just fine all day without it
God, I fucking hate this shit.

>>581631414
The hype will probably pass. It's pure copium to think they won't fag up this Forever like they did retail.
They already showed their hand with the skelf.
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>>581631414
I'm busy gearing my alt. Not much to talk about. Best I can do is post high quality porn sloppa.
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>>581629478
>How do I make friends in Worlo without becoming an M+ gogogo autist
not going to make any friends unless you roll tank
idk about raids that might work
the tranny that told you to roll troonguard is trying to groom you
do not buy into that faggot shit
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Feels like at least 80% of Forever talk is about these fucking (expensive) elves
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>>581633042
Because the paid streamer shills are all basedfacing over the new starting zone and the elves to sell them for Blizzard.
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>>581633042
Always one retard in a ptr/beta standing there using /say like google
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>>581631414
I'm just finishing up weekly stuff and pooshen keys with a friend or two. Hit 3600 so far. Really sucks that we don't get extra bonus rolls for another couple of weeks and uncapped crests aren't until 12.1.7, shits lame watching mythic raiders nearing 330ilvl because they can simply bonus roll 6/6 items every week and dump their crests into other stuff. My guild is basically raidlogging already and messing around on the forever beta so it feels kinda desolate.
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>>581633042
Because it's a precedent. A precedent of a shitty-ass paid race reskin, and on classic no less.
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Looks like I just missed a sale on Midnight, when is it likely to next be on sale?
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>>581633768
thanksgiving maybe
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let this thread die already its just a same fag askign questions and responding to himself.
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>>581632406
no idea
happens to me constantly too
like ill be ranged for like 3 months and then one day i'm just good to go for a month before it happens again
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>>581619274
Unironically tempted to roll on the RP server so I don't have to look at 38 year olds with 15 year old 'lmao xd Sugg Mikehawk haha xddd' redditor humor names.
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>>581633042
Mfw my fave race is free and available in all versions of WoW
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>>581633042
normally in classic id rather play human over everything else but they suckered me in to piggying up because of the customization options and theres a hairstyle that i'm in love with
anyways not defending blizzard and its... strange? ig to lock a race behind a paywall but theres no boxprice and youd have to buy the box to play belves/draenei anyways
but ya i'm not interested in the beta whatsoever just because its the same old shit i've done countless times and id rather grind retail rn desu
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what's the ilvl for +12s?
or is it not about ilvls?
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>>581634336
feels good mon
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>>581634637
It is and it isn't. I did some week 1, don't remember how high my ilvl was but it was basically unmaxed hero and champ gear.
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>>581634637
doesn't matter if you run your own key, even higher ilvl players are just phoning it in
theres no shortage of 315+ applicants tho
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just did venomfall deeps, it was pretty fun
I really hope they add more of these to the game
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I'm resubbing for the first time since TWW, still have all the campaign to get through.
How hard is it gonna be to find m+ groups? I'm willing to tank.
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>>581626687
All of my shittiest dungeon runs this season have been with disc priests that are still playing it for some reason.
Even the ones I healed as resto druid(weaker) were better.
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>>581634958
not hard if you tank

>>581634970
40% buff tho
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>doing LFR
>people know how to do mechanics
This is how you know the game is dying because it's all just people on alts and not noobs or new players.
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they gotta just cancel TLT, forever has already poached most of the retail playerbase

I know this is true by the amount of clueless retards ive had in my deadmines runs
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>>581635572
Checks out. Sweats are mazed and casuals went over.
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>>581633042
this just initiated the precedent for future races that will eventually arrive in retail to have a pricetag.
grim times ahead, specially after The Last Tranny
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I've just level boosted my Elemental Shaman to 70 and I'm looking for Flame Shock but I don't see it. My spellbook has it greyed out under Enhancement. If it's an Enhancement spell, why does Icy Veins recommend it in the Elemental rotation? https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/elemental-shaman-leveling-guide
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>>581636419
It gets turned into the "Voltaic Blaze" spell you see on the right side of the spec talent tree.
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>>581636708
Thanks anon. I haven't played Ele Shaman since Legion, how is it? I started BfA on it but it was godawful.
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>>581634336
which one
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>>581637472
kind of clunky but tuned very strongly, definitely one of the "meta" dps for keys
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>hey guys new/returning player(s) here, how's [S+ tier spec] currently?
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>>581637802
well how is it?
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>>581638060
its shit
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>>581638173
no...
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i miss shadowlands s3/s4 survival hunter
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>>581638262
>i miss shado-
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>>581638313
Not him but sneedolands had some crazy good tiers at the end of the expansion, subt rogue will NEVER be the same without that busted tier.
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>>581638313
Shadowlands lore was bad, and the Jailer and Sylvanas. but I liked the zones, music, transmogs, creature design, and raids.
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>>581638262
I miss BFA S3. On every spec.
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>>581634970
yeah the buffs seemed pretty insane, spec must be dire for that to go thru
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>>581638503
nathria was mostly a fucking excellent tier with banger music
i think thats the first ost they had grant kirkhope on for
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I miss the covenant stuff in dungeons. It was cool to activate the lanterns in sanguine depths and stack a bunch of mobs on it to get a huge damage buff
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I miss post palace Legion
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>dood I miss 2 of the worst expansions in wows history
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>>581638853
no one is talking about wod tho
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>>581639012
>she ranks shadowlands higher than wod
holy fuck!
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>Evens
brew/ww for rest of s2
>Odds
prot/ret until I kill myself waiting for groups
>0
flip a coin on demo/arcane
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>>581639115
you said two tho sneedolands AND wod
sneedolands was better anyway because at least it wasnt abandoned on alpha
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Why did Blizzard abandon wod anyway?
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>>581639231
damn is it that bad for ret
i know its not unga bunga meta spec but a well played ret is still really nice to have in keys
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>>581639397
it was that bad
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>>581639239
Hes not me.
I said "two OF the worst"
Im going to just assume youre ESL and dont understand english.
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>>581639397
Blizzard promised a shitload of stuff and slowly removed everything until the game director left the studio and they shifted development to legion.
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>>581639397
Their resources were siphoned to do something else. Much like they're being siphoned right now in Midnight.
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>>581639239
>you said two tho
bfa and sl
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>>581639670
midnight had nothing to siphon, it was already anemic on launch because of how much dev time was wasted on housing
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>>581639670
>Both expansions had some form of housing
hm
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>>581639397
1) People were pulled off the WoW team to make something of the canceled Project Titan (Overwatch)
2) Blizzard's plans to give WoW an accelerated expansion release schedule with smaller installations immediately blew up in their face
3) They had to cook up Legion, a full-length expansion, ASAP
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>>581639940
2) Blizzard's plans to give WoW an accelerated expansion release schedule with smaller installations immediately blew up in their face
then why are they doing it again
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>>581639748
I don't know how many teams were forced to do housing but I'm certain Forever siphoned more. In WoD's case there were too many releases to count to pinpoint a definitive cause. There was HotS, the Warcraft movie, Hearthstone, Legacy of the Void and Diablo 3 maintenance/console ports. Also Overwatch in 2016 but that might be too far to matter.
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>>581640085
They didn't take into account needing more personnel the first time. They just winged it with their new plans.
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>>581640218
>but I'm certain Forever siphoned more.
For what lmao? It's vanilla with 4 zones and 8 new dungeons. Like you said
>There was HotS, the Warcraft movie, Hearthstone, Legacy of the Void and Diablo 3 maintenance/console ports. Also Overwatch in 2016 but that might be too far to matter.
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Forever will be cool for a bit just like classic was.
Its a different type of gameplay than retail. Sure some people will switch for a bit, but theyll mostly just come back. Same as what happened with classic.
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>>581640893
Obviously but that's not gonna stop the shitposters.
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>>581641359
What a whore.
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>>581641473
Rude
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>>581641359
how much for an hour?
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>>581641568
20G. Bend over
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>>581641359
did you pig or did you opt?
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>try doing surges
>literally nobody doing them
>boss stuck in a fight with NPCs spawning infinite ads that never despawn
>second surge starts without the 1st being cleared
I know it's nighttime but holy shit this game is dead in the open world. The retard that made party/raid based weeklies for sparks should kill himself.
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>>581641759
Oh that's even better.
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>>581641791
do the silvermoon quest for the spark not the surge quest
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>>581641785
I pigged like a good little goinker of course
>>581641826
Prepare for the two-for-one special
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>>581642086
I have sparks to catch up on cause it's an alt.
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>>581642086
If you're behind on sparks, especially on a new character, your alternatives are limited
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>>581642704
Then run keys or delves you will get the sparks
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>>581641359
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>750 minutes ago
I could snuck up the next OP right now, pandaslop and all. But i'm just not going too, there's not even a point too, it's over. this thread is done, done for...
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>>581642236
good to know, I have opted and I havent yet heard of anyone getting an opt invite. so it may be theyre just milking the paypigs and holding off opt invite for a while to get as many impulsives as possible.

I bought the skelfs for gold, but ive no intention of paying for beta access and the other stuff in the packs isnt worth $15 to me
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>>581642804
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>>581641359
we were having a cozy thread
and then you showed up
scram
>>>/vg/wowfg/
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>>581642934
cry some more eurofat
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several months late on this obviously but i think stormarion is the worst zone event/weekly they've ever made
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>>581643001
go post your oc in the bl*cked thread again gayboi
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>>581643110
It's great, but retards that don't play tower defense ruin it
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>>581643412
>>581643412
>>581643412
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>>581635390
LFR loses it's appeal after a few weeks because you can spam delves/vaults/prey/keys/etc for vet and champ gear as a fresh 90 and I think right now you get 4 catalyst charges between the 3 free ones in the city and one for 2k io which unlocks bonus charges from everything. And then you can just hop into normal and then heroic pugs.



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