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Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.

>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman

>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
Release date November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde
<DogFart> - PvP, Alliance

>Previous thread >>581539978
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THESE GENERALS
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AAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEIWEOOOO
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new lighting is so good
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Bards when
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>>581553706
>>581553702
>>581553284
they're trying to please everyone, and in turn, only pleasing the lowest IQ "newthing" chasers
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Some of the reasons I like playing Vanilla have been gutted from Forever (some also gutted in Classic)
>weird "unoptimized" itemization
>mana/energy being based on server ticks opened up fun pvp gameplay (like gouge restealth by timing the server tick, opening on someone right before server tick for 20 extra energy, or drinking on server ticks for less down time while kiting someone)
>rage without standardization
>hunter pets without standardization
>paladins being shit because they have the craziest most retard proof utility in the game
>big aoe pulls on a mage are FUN and feels like a huge benefit to picking mage
>tough world where you can die
>one big community without layering
I feel like Forever changes too much. I'm fine with nearly everything else, but everyone is too strong and Classic gameplay has fundamentally changed.
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God I fucking love sex elves.
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I'm not going into the beta, is there any reason to play the main game to just to sort of remember how to play for the real launch in november, or is it going to be different enough to be a waste of time?
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>>581553803
it looks okay, but the second picture is much more comfy.
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>>581553906
MOAR
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>>581553906
SEXXXX
Please tell me you have a rar of all your art
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Dwarves run this general!
Never forget that, brown sons.
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Never played Hunter on Vanilla before. Seems ridiculously fun in AV but seems horribly boring in raid. Any hunter bros here can share their wisdom on how all 3 specs are looking? Is there any chance Survival and BM are decent for raiding or it's just MM spamming Aimed Shot and Arcane shot on every single boss with serpent sting being refreshed once every 15 or so seconds.
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>If I go herbalism on my mage then my camp buff is useless for me
Ohh my metaslave brain does not like this...
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>>581553803
It would be perfect if the fucking colors remained
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sloppy sex with owlbear cookie
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>>581553970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1pu96oz9Q4
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>>581554080
raid rotation was boring (aimed shot, multi shot, auto shot) but hunter could solo DMT which made it unique and useful.
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Be honest, blue or alliance sky elves?
https://files.catbox.moe/qjcfat.png
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>>581554080
Hunter is basically braindead easy to play at a base level but also the hardest class in classic.
In raid you want to maximize it with melee weave aligned with your swing timers on both weapon and ranged timer, feign death for trinket swaps/drinking, kiting, pulling, micro managing the pet, tranquilizing and overall utility while still doing your rotation and damage all at the same time and this is what makes hunter incredibly fun.

You usually don't want to use arcane shot because of the mana too btw, at least in raids.
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>>581554080
no real way of knowing until level 40+ comes out
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>>581553996
I'm not the guy who makes the slip. I'm just the guy who enjoys it and also is married to the one with glasses.
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>it's horizontal progression
so the servers will be a ghost town after naxx
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>>581554314
Arcane shot good though for kiting. Everything a hunter has can be used for something. Except eyes of the beast which is just funny
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>>581553903
i completely agree. unfortunately, retoilets run blizzard.
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>>581554465
Eyes of the beast was used for min-maxed raid pulling because the hunter can send in the pet and grab whatever they want, if the pull goes bad the hunter can just feign death.
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naxx lmao there isn't even going to be mc

forever new content kekaroo
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>>581554314
I see, but Survival with Lone Wolf definitely seems like it will be fun to play in raid. For PvP you'll probably get destroyed by other melee classes but if you can get on a clothie it seems like you'll melt them. Pet management is the biggest offput for me even if I PvP and I know the pet will make mages seethe.
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>>581553810
I think it'd be cool if they added "sub-classes" that you could pick and choose that gave you a small suite of active and passive abilities, classes like Bard or Tinker or Necromancer don't really work as full classes in World of Warcraft because there's heavy overlap with existing classes.
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>>581554562
My guild never did that and we were pretty much a top 3 world guild
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>>581554572
if you have nostalgia for vanilla, raiding mc 40 more times is not part of it.
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>>581553803
If anyone wants to know one quick trick to unshackle their minds from the fallible old good: new bad, soul : soulless dichotomy, here it is: just pretend that the old is the new, and the new is the old. It's literally that easy to de-maze your mind and see things objectively.

I still want a slider for volumetric fog, though.
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Literally what reason could there be for Dalaran not to just drop a meteor on the Undercity?
This is as lore breaking as the Alliance in retail not using the Vindicar to fry up all the zugs.
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>>581554465
>>581554562
Also I meant arcane shot in the usual raid PVE rotation, of course it has its uses like every hunter spell.
>>581554683
It wasn't done by everyone, but it was definitely used, particularly in hardcore.

>>581554591
I've played hunter for 22 years, if you want to have fun do NOT go Lone Wolf survival.

You just become a way more boring and braindead warrior, no pet, no weaving, no real swing tempo management and your rotation is like 2-3 abilities, you're systematically suctioning all the uniqueness, depth and fun out of the class by doing so.
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>>581553810
they should add bard and tinker instead of fucking DKs or DHs
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>>581554719
Molten Core is a very nostalgic raid, I hope they make more raids like it by giving some guy one week to come up with a new raid.
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>unlocked bear form
>it still uses the old, SD model even if you're using HD models
But... why? I really like the WotLK bear / cat forms.
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>>581554719
what are you assuming there i'm pro forever changes/new content is the future
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>>581554728
I think it looks good my problem is that it sucks out all the color via the fog and should be a slider.
It's also coded like complete shit, I'm getting 30-40 frames sometimes yet my cpu and gpu are not even at 16% usage.
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>>581554898
are you using your integrated gpu
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>>581554572
thank god MC isnt the opening raid. id jump off a bridge if i have to do that dogshit raid again any time soon
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>>581553903
>tough world where you can die
Vanilla being difficult is the biggest fucking meme.
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>>581554881
you're gonna start another argument about punctuation with a mess like that.
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>>581554956
Band of aquria though...
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>>581554740
I asked them nicely not to.
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>>581554823
Bard having campsite specific skills would be so soulful...
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>>581554956
it's coming in 6 months as a "revamped" raid
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>a fucking mouse is asking me to get a cookie from stv
so has anyone done this
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>>581554757
From a playstyle perspective I absolutely agree but when the new items and gear start piling up I guarantee you every hunter will be playing Lone Wolf MM or Survival Lone Wolf. Even BM with attack power scaling on pets looks awesome. That being said, if you've spend 20 years on Hunter you'll stand out for sure will just suck if a Survival Hunter with Lone Wolf and Raptor/Mongoose strike will hammer you in the ground because of stat checking and a broken tier set bonus.
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it's called wow forever beta because it's meant to be played by the forever beta males only LMAO
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>>581554263
For me, it's ginger horde sex elf.
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>>581555062
Can you even go into SFK? I'd be impressed if a minmaxed group of sweats could take down Arugal despite the level difference.
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>>581555047
i know. hopefully by then i wont mind MC, at least it will be something familiar i guess
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>>581555132
I’m an omega male, can I play?
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>Mulgore added 2 quests that actually uses the entirety of the Venture Co. mine
>one of them is an elite quest added to a new area that looks relatively polished
>the the new area also has a neutral goblin who's an engineering trainer, if you go far enough off the beaten path
This is the kind of new content I actually wanted.
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Undeadfags, was a blacksmith trainer introduced outside of the Undercity?
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>>581554823
this is world of warcraft, not world of dicking around craft.
at best a trumpeter or drummer would make the cut.
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>>581555008
It's not "hard" but the mobs aren't total pushovers. On Forever at level 11 I was chain pulling mobs and never got lower than 50% health. I only stopped after 8 kills to drink for literally 3 seconds before continuing. Yes, some classes could do this in Vanilla, but required proper gear, game knowledge, the correct mob, and some CC. In Forever you can do it while playing retardly and face tanking everything and the gear is just handed out to you like candy on halloween. A level 11 shouldn't be chain pulling mobs like a fully geared 60 doing farming runs.
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>>581555215
no
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>>581553706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4aZQvmWO_M
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>>581555009
english saar
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>>581553906
Why do you keep saving some shrunk version on mobile
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>>581555251
There always was an engineering trainer in there, anon.
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>>581555215
only if you aren't taking heat suppressants
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>>581555251
There is also an escort quest in the gnoll cave west of bloodhoof village that people usually ignore
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>Undead paladin lore is all about trying to prove you're not fantasy hitler just because you're organized-religion adjacent
Fucks sake
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>>581555386
you do realize that the forsaken have been trying to prove they aren't hitler since vanilla
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>>581554823
>implying people weren't begging for DH as soon as vanilla released
There we literally one of them on the fucking box. I do think they should go in a different direction with new classes, but a version of Demon Hunter that actually fits within Forever's gameplay would be perfectly fine. Personally I think Tinker should be first, but there's always the inevitability of them bringing up its crossover with Engineering as though that's somehow a disqualifying factor. I don't really care for the idea of a WoW Bard, though. There are better choices.
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If EVERY race had priests what do you think their class racial would be?
I like to imagine tauren priests being able to purify water and create a mana potion with multiple charges, but it would require a nearby body of open water to use.
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If I'm (probably) maining warlock should I play warlock in beta or should I try druid/shaman now?
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>>581555347
wtf

I guess that shows how worthless the mine was - no one ever went in there beyond the two quests that basically only required you to explore maybe 10% of it. I got lost in there on Project Epoch was surprised by how huge it actually is.
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>>581554591
One assumes with all the parry and new skills or reworks, I'm hearing Survival Hunter will eat Rogues and maybe Warriors but struggle with ranged dps.
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>>581553906
make all 3 wear a slingshot bikini
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>>581555354
I have never been in heat. I have never even so much as looked at another human being IRL and thought sexual thoughts.
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>>581555386
It's kind of like if bunch of roaches started using Raid all of sudden for the good of the whole roach colony. Surely you can see the rest of the roachkind would be suspicious.
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>>581555495
druid is by far the worst class right now so dont try that
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>>581555548
Resto Druid and Feral both seem really good.
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>>581555471
>Apothecary Quarter is just fantasy Auschwitz
They're doing a bad job.
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>>581555548
Gonna be fine later but 1-10 on druid is straight up miserable, especially in a world where nu-paladins, hunters and such exist.
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>>581555684
holy sovl overload
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>>581555542
I guess it's just assumed that every single undead priest is shadow.
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>twiddles thumbs and coughs
Ca--can you guys add me to your gu-guild? I can be your house nigger.....
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what is the lore reason for why the blue sky elves never showed up in retail? or is forever non-canon?
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>>581555684
METZEN
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>>581555275
I don't think having to eat / drink every 2-3 mobs adds particularly much to the gameplay. You shouldn't be able to chain pull indefinitely either. Something in the middle is good, and I think they've achieved that with Forever.
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>minmax theorists saying not to take combustion because fingers of frost is giga OP for frostfire bolt spam
Feels weird, hope they buff the capstone.
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>>581555542
forsaken aren't really undead since they can be resurrected and holy lighted and can't be exorcised.
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>>581555780
damn they even did wideass nose too, blizzard is not kind to pocs
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>>581553906
i've been gone from lurking these threads for your sex elves past couple days
i am hereby back lurking these threads for your sex elves until november 4
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>>581555724
Does the blizzard allow the use of dlss5 or do you get in trouble?
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>>581555471
Never forget the Wrathgate. Garrosh was right and died for our sins
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How far down the what-if hole are they gonna go?
Ruins of Silvermoon raid where we fight an Immerseus reskin coming out of the corrupted Sunwell?
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>>581555792
they died of air pollution
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>>581555792
it matters not as thine pic is that which doth call me home
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>>581555154
Sure you can go into instances like SFK and BFD, that's one of the ways level 19 battleground twinks would gear up, although they were obviously relying on a high level character killing everything for them. Not sure how it might be tackled with only level 20s, maybe tank plus all priests for both healing and DPS since they have that holy +hit talent available.
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>>581555684
Settings? Is this really wow and no Nvidia filters or some shit?
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All I want to do is set up a fishing hut and see who drops by.
God November can't come fast enough.
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>>581555471
>>581555951
What about Undeath turned the citizens of Lordaeron into wackjobs who love torturing/experimenting on their Human brethren and creating violent plagues? Do they have free will in Retoilet or was it Retconned that they were all under Sylvanas/Vrykul/Jailer control?
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>>581554898
That’s just the memory leak. Relogging fixes framerate then it slowly degrades again
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>>581555792
separate canons
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>>581555976
any references to characters or lore or usage of models past the wotlk is probably universally considered trash by classic players. they couldn't even get people to play cataclysm let alone the ccp kowtow expansion.
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>>581555947
Gpu for this without sub 30 fps?
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>>581556085
Leaked Ai filter. If I understand correctly, you can slap it on any game.
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>>581556149
im a zoomer so WOD was the first wow expec i played, so i have fond memories of it including garrison fishing
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>>581555792
j'lors plan
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>>581556232
Fug. Wanted it to be 100% ingame because that filter is probably gonna look good sometimes and ass sometimes, also I'm on amd and don't wanna mess with external software bs
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anyone wanna fugg
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>>581556152
Early 2000s rule of cool
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>>581555490
Orc Priests
>like thrall, these guys were raised in the internment camps
>the paladins and priests of lordaeron ministered to them, and successfully converted some
>the shamanic faith has only recently rubbed off on them, they practice a form of syncretism that worships the light and believes the elements come from the light
>offensive and defensive focused
Feedback at level 10.
Stonebolt at level 20. Smite replacement that deals holy damage and bonus nature damage based on your armor value.
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>>581556152
I don't know what the current lore is but originally the idea was that being undead burned out your ability to feel positive emotions, turning most forsaken into jaded sociopaths whose only motivation was revenge on the Scourge and the humans who persecuted them as 'just another undead'. All means are justified towards the ends of exacting vengeance upon the traitor prince who left them in such a wretched state.
Also brain damage was very much a thing due to the varying states of damage and decay subjected to an undead's cerebral matter, leading to many of them to go full Mad Hatter with Sylvanas only tolerating them because they may prove to be useful fodder against Arthas in the future.

Granted, there was a quest in Hillsbrad I think where you're told to hunt down a band of renegade forsaken who allied up with Dalaran because they didn't want Sylvanas to get her hands on some elemental lord/old god blood or something. When you kill the lead mage in charge she drops a diary that documents her observations on the main forsaken turncoat and speculations that he's capable of empathy and other warm emotions. So there are outliers.
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yas suh, im sho is a real paldin nah
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>>581556429
I'd rather play a former Shadowmoon cultist.
>Power Word: Fist is a melee ability that attempts to knock down a target in melee range while restoring some mana to you
>Shadowmoon Burial, a channeled AoE similar to hellfire that slows and deals shadow damage
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bros im torn between two specs, i mostly pvp, any advice

enhance shaman
>fun to 1 shot people
>was previously bad in pvp, really bad in 1v1s
>has to use totems
>can be tauren
>cool

sub
>idk what race id pick
>very fun play style
>probably good in pvp
>not as RNG
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>>581555792
They just didn't happen. Like if in a different timeline the orcs never drank the fel blood so they never became green skinned
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>>581555792
they didnt appear in vanilla because they were hidden on a floating island covered by thick clouds
in tbc they got destroyed by draenei ship crash
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>>581556629
The Shadowmoon are dark shamans (proto-warlocks) though.
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They should make this thing a boss fight in Forever
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>>581556647
you will only have fun as a rogue in pvp if you get good gear for your level and you will only get good gear if you are friendly and make a steady group.
if you are autistic and need to pub everything then go shaman.
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>>581556647
you sound like you are pretty bad at the game so it doesnt really matter
enchance is dogshit in pvp but it can be fun to randomly one shit people and that keeps you playing it
trying to play sub rogue when you are bad is dumb, just go combat and try to burst people down with CDs
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you now miss AQ40
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Are you guys having fun?

I’m not a big fan of welfare blues, and the gun runs objectively terribly because they went with retail engine instead of tbc like they should’ve
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>>581556864
you sound like you are pretty bad, assuming what classes will be good or not already.
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>>581556901
dont know, got no key
but I have zero interest in retail or playing classic for the hundred time so forever is the only thing that has a chance to be interesting and yes, fun
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>>581555792
>cums in you and knocks you up
SHIT, I GOTTA BOUNCE
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can I import my keybinds or do I need to redo them all?
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>>581556997
>b-but what if something drastic suddenly changed?
retard
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>>581556901
omg the color of the weapon is blue because it lets me mine or pick herbs. this is not my classicplus
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man, i'm disappointed in the slam CD being 15 seconds. playing arms sounded like fun to me
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Personally i think all of Quel Thalas should be scourge infested, and silvermoon city a scourge raid with an undead Anasterian as the final boss
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>>581556880
holy shit absolutely not
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We're so fucking back!
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>>581553706
>Even the sexy women paintings are back

ARE WE BACK???!!
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>>581557272
We're not back until Rich Cambell starts streaming.
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>>581556880
I would have preferred if Forever had nixed 40m raiding entirely tbdesu. 10 and 20 are better.
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>>581557418
>more options bad
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>>581557418
I find it weird that they're trying to frame having a separate 10 and 20 every tier is ensuring 'guilds of all sizes have content'.
Ultimately, 90% of guilds are going to try to clear both raids. It's not like you're going to ignore an entire raid instance full of loot because the size of it is awkward for your roster.
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>RTX 5090/9950x3D
>At the start, get a solid 170-200FPS on nearly all maxed settings even at a massive 7680x2160 Resolution and in crowded scenes
>Play for 2 hours
>FPS literally drops to sub 40 at moments and can barely go above 60 looking at the damn floor due to the fucking memory leak
How the shit is this still such a problem?
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which armor class has the best slutmog, cloth or plate?
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>>581557418
10 man raids with 20 man big boss raids ala gruul and mag is the best formula. having optional 10 or 20 man sucked ass in wrath.
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>>581553903
Drinkwalk was retarded, clearly a strange bug, and just encouraged add on automation to help abuse it. It removed a lot of player skill expression as the bug gave massive amounts of unintended regen. Removing resource management as a gameplay mechanic for mana users.
This was most noticeable for mages in pvp where mana bot addons were used by everyone.
Energy tick gameplay at least made sense not multiplying rouge resources for no reason. Even if I always found it annoying.
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>>581557472
Some options, such as 40 man raids, are bad.
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>>581557418
10 is the goat of raid comps, I'll settle for 20 as well but 40 is complete meme. Luckily it seems they realise this and will only make singular boss raids 40 like Onyxia which you'll probably be able to easily do with competent 20man anyway so it's not going to be an issue. Now if they suddenly drop reworked 40 man MC on us, we might have a problem.
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>>581557604
cloth
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Can someone tell me concisely why is WoW a better/popular than a game like GW2?
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*Sniff* *Huff*
>hooohh...... unnnnnn~
>human scent
>human MALE scent
*SNIFFFAAAAAA*
>mmmm give me what big HUMAN cock (white)
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>>581557248
>worldwide war effort in Quel'thalas
>each step of the war effort establishes more and more "safe zones" in Quel'thalas
>completing the effort unlocks blood elves and high elves for the alliance (same character creation, but your class choice decides which one you are), forest trolls for the horde, and opens up the Silvermoon City raid
Ship it.
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>>581557604
Do you prefer leotards and skimpy dresses or plate bikinis
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>>581557708
wives are in it
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>>581557489
It's so the small guilds can raid without having to recruit a bunch of people, which the tight knit & casual social-clusters, which there are a ton of, wouldn't want to do very often, in my experience
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how does the server work? can swap rulesets and keep progression?
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>>581557604
playing the wrong game, chuddie
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>>581557604
Plate can transmog cloth and you get all appearances of quest items you didnt get anyways. I already have like 90 appearances on my level 9 paladin
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>>581557813
>korean p2w game where I can look like an asian who is trying to be white through plastic surgery
no thanks
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eu bros is it safe to play without vpn yet
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>>581554080
Hunter is the best class. I also played it for the first time during SoD and was blown away by how easy questing became. You’re basically god of the forest and everyone asks you for help while you farm everything in the quest location. Then on top of that you can farm high level elite mobs yourself, and the raids I was good dps too. Honestly there were no downsides for me.
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>>581557813
ayyy lmao eyes
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>MOP dooming
>Retail dooming
>Classic hopeGODs rising
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>>581557621
I like this idea. 20 mans then more or less just exist as an excuse for 10 man guilds to team up to take down a powerful foe.
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>>581557418
I know massive scale 40 man raids are part of the classic "feel", but the roster boss was itself an annoying thing to manage and I'd seen guilds fall apart from it before.
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>>581557724
sorry knife ear but I'm not into bestiality
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>>581557812
Rulesets are the server, so we have 4 servers one for each gameplay style (excluding rp-pvp). You cannot move between them, and no one knows if they will introduce paid transfers.
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>>581557859
What?
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>>581557604
mail
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>>581557983
what what? is it safe to play without vpn yet
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>>581556835
>giant rectum
So that's where all those bear asses went?
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>>581557604
Every other character on RP servers is gonna be a female caster in black mageweave transmog.
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>>581557914
>Lynris
That slut is back? Any 2015-2016 wowgers have her nudes? Icy went full troon erper and is playing XIV now under the name Ney Tormelados.
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>>581557472
They should just lower existing 40man raids to 20 and existing 20man raids to 10. Single boss 40man raids like Onyxia are probably chill, though.
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>>581557914
The EU MoP wow token went from 150k to 450k in span of like a week, shit's DEAD dead
we still haven't killed Garrosh because people keep going on vacations and it took three raid nights for Klaxxi send help
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>>581557914
anyone unironically playing chingchong classic should have had their accounts deleted.
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>>581558070
all content should be soloable
there is zero benefit forcing you to play with retards
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>>581558149
Flex 1-40 is the way.
More options is always better.
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>>581557958
>and no one knows if they will introduce paid transfers.
Of course they will - it makes money. from the q&a "Without a character transfer, you can't swap between rulesets."
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I will play with transmog off
I will see your clownsuit that you've tried to hide
I will show you what you look like in reality
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>>581557813
I don't have a stake in this, but would rape
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>>581558042
roleplayers dont use slutmog, its not propriate unless your character is a prostitute or something
its 99% going to be other servers where people are goingto slutmog their female characters
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>>581557930
I didn't think their existence is worth the trade off. Making new raids hard enough for typical guilds to progress for a while rather than stomp straight through, without making them so difficult that the barrier of entry is impenetrable, would do far more to capture the spirit of vanilla raiding than just having piss-easy, solved 40man loot dispensers. 40man raiding is terrible.
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>>581558218
>transmog off
>create perfect transmog with imorph for yourself
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>>581558218
I shall play with HD models. I shall see your character, shiny, soft, Disney-esque, and as desouled as it's player.
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>>581557918
I other what they're actually doing, which is just making both of them actual raids. I actually prefer 10m raiding over any other version, but if they're committed to having 10 and 20m raids both be their own thing, you need to have them both be fleshed out and not just relegate 20m to being a single-boss affair. Hyjal Summit actually has more bosses than Barrow Deeps: 13 vs. 8. I don't have a problem with it. There's more design space when you have more people, so doing more with 20m is a reasonable enough decision.
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>>581558218
More like you will see everybody in the current raid tier set.
This just proves you didn't play classic since there everybody looked the same.
It isn't 2006 where only 1% did endgame raiding.
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Torn between troll fire mage and ud prot pally
I wonder what the fall off is gonna be for ud paladins and how hard it'll be to avoid being regulated to holy bitch duty in raids.
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>>581556723
>in tbc they got destroyed by draenei ship crash
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Over the last day or so I've seen some awful player names, proper tragic ones. Do these lot think they are 15 again? Giving characters a last name has been a disaster
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>>581558218
Reality is subjective.
Only what is present in my conscious experience exists.

If I turn my head, the rest of the room is “generated”.

One frame. My viewpoint. One dream. My wife.
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>>581558408
Shit he might see me in the upcoming tier set even with it on. That Shaman set is sick, and I rarely interact with transmog outside of finding a single one that I like and just wearing it for years. I can see myself doing that with the new Shaman set.
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nights are pretty mood
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>>581558482
play on RP ruleset when forever launches
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>>581558408
Yeah they looked cool like this in the current raid tier set.
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>>581558482
I am hoping they stick to the name clean up on rp server at least. It's a heckin rpg, least you could do is make a slight effort to fit the setting with your character name. Otherwise I have no illusions about the state of non-rp pvp/pve shards, it takes 5 minutes on beta to see that everyone is a comedian.
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>>581558347
this is literally rape
you HAVE TO ask for consent
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>Play skelf
>Can't heal last druid, 6/7
>Restart
>It helped
>Another quest
>Bugged, nothing helps
>Let's go to Ogri
>One of the quests is bugged, can't talk to Sylvanas and proceed it
I guess I will wait for november 4th
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>>581556160
Not always, still goes to shit in some areas.
There's way more issues than a memory leak, some simple fog shouldn't be this impactful.
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Transmog on
>gnome mages dressed like super mario
Transmog off
>gnome mages dressed like buzz lightyear
You can not win.
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>nobody is playing blue elves
seems like people don't like the new content and just want to feign interest in a current trend.
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>>581558459
yeah canonically the Draenei ship CRASH landed on Azeroth after plowing right through the Skyborne floating island and sending them and their own ship scattered in pieces upon Kalimdor. Forever is alternative timeline where they managed to get their shit together and use ships to escape and join the Horde/Alliance who protect them and aid them in killing the highborne and ogres/etc chasing them.
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Men who play female characters are a little strange, men that play female tauren are straight up fucked in the head
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elwynn looks spooky at night
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>>581558796
me when i lie
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>>581558408
Or perhaps they looked like this in the current raid tier set.

I wonder which one of us didn't play classic.
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>>581558459
>Because the Exodar smashed into their sky island on its way to Azuremyst Isle, which never happens in Forever. The draenei are the direct reason we don't have Skyborne in Retail. What's left of their race became the red mist we see around Bloodmyst Isle. That's not "radioactive residue" from the Exodar, it's literally lingering Skyborne viscera - still airborne just like they were. It's the draenei's darkest secret, Velen's big whoopsie-daisy.
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>>581558459
They're just fucking with you, anon. That's not the canon lore at all. The island is in Skywall and the Exodar wouldn't have passed through an Elemental Plane. And if it had, it just would have crashed on Zephras instead of Azuremyst.
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>>581556864
why do you think i sound bad

im 2400 retail pvper
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>>581557914
was mop even mentioned during blizzcon?
It's hard to believe that OG classic rerun would go to Dreanoer but it's equally hard to believe that it's going to just let to rot there like a SoD
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>>581558796
I played and honestly didn't like it much especially with bugged quests.
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>>581558905
That unironically looks like something someone would use transmog to make thoughever.
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>>581557898
Hunter is probably top DPS but rogue is better overall for dungeons. Hunter beats rogue but only by like a small amount, rogue brings way more to the table. Hunter also falls off incredibly fast at lvl 60, and only one is brought to raids, mainly for their threat generating thingy for the tank because it’s a big raid dps increase. Yeah hunters got tons of problems while leveling, mainly with multi shot being such a high threat ability that you can’t even use it most of the time to cleave, it’s basically just a single target attack. Ideal classic dungeon group is literally 3 rogues. Soloing elites isn’t very impactful, like these quests you’re talking about are typically skipped because even if you do them efficiently it’s like a 2 or 3 minute time save. Hunter farming is also mid tier, it’s not really better than mage at anything and rogues and druids are also better at everything else.
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warlock is bussin
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>>581558756
half of gnome males will use transmog to be naked
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>>581558953
no they haven't said shit about mop/tbc lol, they'll probably just let it die in obscurity or merge MoP chars into retail but that would cause some seethe
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>>581558908
Illidan telling Velen to his face what a sanctimonious pussy he is remains one of the few triumphs of modern WoW writing. You can tell they tried as hard as they could to unfuck him after TBC did such a piss poor job.
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Are night/day cycles still tied to local time?
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>>581558408
Ah a proper holy paladin in the current raid tier set.
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blacklisting every dumb cunt that takes quest shit from me. fuck off.
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>>581559094
sorry that quest item was promised to me some time ago
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>>581559069
yes
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>>581559093
glad they are fixing this in forlo
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>he isnt gonna make a skyborne femboy and pretend its griffith
>he doesnt want a tall slim elegant angel husband

you guys are faggots
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>>581559094
If I see you mining a copper ore node im going to walk up and start mining it, then delay looting until your mine fails and mine a second time. Ita shroomple addat.
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>>581559094
>blacklists every competent player
>ends up with shitters and casuals
>nonstop wipes in every dungeon
have fun
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Spooky
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>>581558989
Wrong, the most popular gnome male transmog set is Super Mario, it has been Super Mario since the day transmog was added to WoW, it can be built exclusively from classic items, and the only thing that hampered its popularity was the addition of Kul'tiran Humans who look more like Super Mario, which aren't in Forever.
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You can bypass the lvl 20 max by drinking a xp potion and get past lvl 20 without the game hindering you lol
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>Wear cloth as a plate healer (paladin
>Transmog it to slutmog
That easy.
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>>581559213
Why would you want a gay lover who has sex with a foid to forget about his boy crush?
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>>581559314
Max debunked this
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some new proffession stuff
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>>581559189
Utterly soulless btw.

Here's your optimized tier set. Enjoy. You can replace it with the next optimized tier set.
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>>581558030
What did you think you were contributing to when you did the quest asking for 20 bear anuses?
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NO MORE PRICE FIXING

BLACK AH HAS GOLD SINK ITEMS
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>>581553803
Top: brown & bloom
Bottom: soul
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>>581558756
Note to self: get Bad Mojo Mask ASAP for troll mage mog.
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https://x.com/Psybear_tv/status/2101061715702255798/video/1


SOVL
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>>581559213
Skyborne males don't have soft facial features, the blood elf male models were based on boy bands from the 90s/2000s.
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>>581559408
That's pretty neat.
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>>581559346
Gear is already soulless. Only real items are from hardcore SSF pre 60.
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>get 3 ore nodes right next to each other
>2 of them respawn as I finish the last node
>as im mining the respawns get a changing layer message
>press okay as im done looting
>3 fresh ore spawns just for me
This shit is kind of retarded ngl
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I've been having fun chatting with randoms in the game. Feels like old times.
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>>581553803
I was in Hall of Thanes just now and it was so dark I couldn't see shit
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>>581559408
I hope they put in a bunch of instakill hazards like the Gnomergan cave-in just to fuck with people.
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>>581559408
and now its ruined
great
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>>581559346
>complaining about getting spellpower plate before 60
Faggot
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Smurfs on Horde seems weird
Smurfs on Alliance seems natty and high T
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I'm trying to enjoy the new lighting but I can't see fuck all and the colors are totally washed out and muted
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When do we get chubby fempandas?
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>>581559513
wait until every conversation be about "the libtards" or "donald drumpf", it will get there
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>>581559408
based based based based
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>>581559513
Youre literally speaking to timmies clones. Hes actually so unlikable that he needed guns to prevent us from killing him.
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>join little space discord
>its full of trannies
yup, not rolling alliance.
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>>581559576
and thats why Im playing on alliance
no other reason
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>>581559213
i wanna lose weight IRL and work on myself then download all the lgbt apps and find a femboy bf desu.
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>>581559637
What the fuck did you expect from a guild named after DDLG, anon?
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>>581559576
Smurfs make more sense on horde than alliance, they worship the elements like 3/4 Horde races and are highborne, the ancient enemies of the night elves.
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Is this feature bugged or do I just not know what the fuck to do here?
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>>581559637
all the chuds roll horde alliance is for unironic troons
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>>581559694
what is ddlg should i even ask
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>>581559695
>the ancient enemies of the night elves
Based new lore
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>>581559627
I also noticed this.
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>>581559695
>worship elementals
>they leave you
>keep worshipping them like a beta bitch
alliance skelves are canon, they realized the elementals abandoned them and joined alliance
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>>581559408
oh THATS what the eyes in the bushes are??? wtf
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almost to 20 and idk if I wanna grind out 30 on beta...
will save the deadmines quests in case I guess
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>>581559637
i need trannies to send me pics of their panty bulges
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>>581559781
Did you never notice how vanilla shamans don't have wind shock?
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>>581559093
God i love sissydins
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>>581559824
hope you like short brown hairy cocks
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>>581559705
move a skill or an item there doh
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>>581559753
don’t worry about it kitten
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warrior chads put their god in a sword
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>>581559669
im chubby and they worship me

just get somewhat buff and have some tatts, maybe a shitty mullet too


i believe in you anon
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>>581559835
dont call us that!!
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>>581559776
>wilted rose
Unc, we do the israeli flag nowadays.....
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i won't play till they add my goats back
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>>581559825
>what is grace of air
>what is windfury
>what is literally every lightning spell that is part of the domain if air elementals
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>>581559845
...Don't you tempt me with a good time.
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post new stuff and qol you found
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umm
There is a new escort quest in Mulgore, in the Gnoll cave
But the end of it
The Tauren thanks you for your help
Then turns on Stealth and sneaks away

Do they have the balls to do it?
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how do horde bros clear hall of thanes
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>>581559921
Here you go.
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>>581560026
Very, very carefully
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>>581560008
>anon has seen a tauren rogue
your days are numbered
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>>581560026
Can Horde glitch jump through IF like the alliance do in Org?
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>>581560030
it is better with anti aliasing on
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>>581560026
corpse run in naked
not worth it ofc
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>>581560026
how does alliance clear rfc?
they don't dipshit
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>"Wow! My first time playing World of Warcraft! This is going to be so cool and immersive!"
>SCREEN NARRATOR
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think im gonna end up buying the fucking beta, boys...
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>>581560008
They had a Tauren Rogue Trainer in SoD that taught Shamans dual wield and Lava Lash, what was the name of the Tauren in the quest anon?
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>preraid bis at level 17
I dunno about this bros
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I'm gonna do a lvl 1 starting zone quest at lvl 15 and check whether there is reputation decay like in classic or you get full rep.
Wish me luck guys
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>>581560249
Just use vpn to buy redbulls on macca
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Turn down secondary lighting to fair if you want to triple your fps.
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>no rp-pvp ruleset
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>>581560359
dont wanna make the poor employees waste food.
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>>581560320
Current cope is that they heavily nerfed the base damage/healing on spells so the weapon upgrades would feel as exciting for casters as they are for melee. Remains to be seen how that works out.
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>>581560204
I don't use goyim resolutions
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>>581560385
the rape dream is dead....
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>>581560320
>she doesnt know

Lvl 60 weapons will have 150 SP
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>>581560305
I dont remember
But I think it ended with Longhoof or something?
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>>581560320
>have to always keep this in my bags for wpvp
Man bag space is gonna suck in Forever.
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>everyone in game saying "we're home"
>when Classic has been available for the last 7 years
???
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>>581560320
wow forever is clowny as shit, it's literally a private server operated by blizzard
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https://talentsforever.com/warlock/60/055500001002--2050305133101351-BmkoqrutswxyzCDIL-3

Destro PvE without DS. Non-cucked because you can use your Succubus which is based (Imp is probably better though). Keep up Immolate, Corruption, and Agony, use Shadowburn and Conflagrate on CD/as often is necessary to keep Shadow and Flame buffs active, spam Incinerate at all other points in time. Realistically it's probably better to put the points from Improved Agony and Amplify Curse into Improved Imo, but can an Imp suck your dick while it tickles your prostate the way a Succubus can? I didn't think so.

Is DA build better? Probably. Do I fucking care? Fuck no. Warlocks should use demons. Especially slutty demons.
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>>581560320
>ERM SWEETY DONT YOU KNOW THE DEVS SAID THEY NERFED THE BASE DAMAGE OF SPELLS?!?!?!??!
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>>581560509
>classic
>when pservers have been available for 20 years
people want new shit, not stock tranilla or wrath for the 99999th time
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>>581560030
um how did these guys get into azeroth…
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>>581560476
It's not him then.
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>>581560461
That isn't the part that concerns me, its the fact that my renew heals for more than double what it does in classic, I don't need to use any other spell
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>>581560531
>no hd succubus
no thanks
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>>581560404
Fireball max rank is 425 - 541 (483) in forever. 596 - 760 (678) in classic.

100% scaling, so 195 extra spell damage at 60 is expected compared to classic.
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>>581560320
kino. i want them to throw classic+ meta out the window and try fun and wild avenues and adjust as we go.
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okay you officially get full rep for grey quests
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kind feels like people here don't know blizzard can update or change anything.

this isn't #nochanges classic lmaooo
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>>581560639
They should've added an optional graphics mode that reverts models to their early-release or alpha versions.
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>>581560639
Is it really not in???
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>>581560683
>insane powercreep is good
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>>581560614
Forever rank 3 renew (level 20) is 125. Classic is 175. Scaling is 100% (20% per tick), so you need 50 +healing to make it equal to classic at the moment.
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>Actually mind fuckingly insane power creep is GOOD and I cant WAIT to fast track my "Classic+" to Retail in under a year!
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Any spell power mail for paladins in?
I don't want them wearing the exact same gear warriors use.
Didn't epoch add spell power pala gear?
Was it worth it or were they still wearing full str gear?
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>>581560756
>doesn't understand the concept of scaling
Just wear a sign that lets everyone know you're retarded before typing, anon. We call it a trip.
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>>581560756
>what do you mean classic+ isn't the same as classic?????
>Changes????!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
kill yourself lol
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>>581560721
all vanilla models just like in classic
only items and creatures that didint exist in vanilla have higher quality models and textures
undead paladin mounts = retail
every other paladin mount = vanilla
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>>581560771
insane powercreep because the number is big on items. 50 healing is insane you will never change my mind
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I'm all for this version of WoW. But anyone else worried that we'll get bloated with reskinned races eventually?
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>>581560691
>hiding name in a beta
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Mobs should also have updated models when you toggle it in settings.
>>581553906
There's only one sex elf in the game!
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>Classic+ makes changes
>Erachuds and Pserf trannies work together to doom a version of Vanilla with changes (that people asked for)

Funny timeline.
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>>581560791
keep crying
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>>581560835
they are going to add a new race every year, or maybe a class
just to have a reason to ask 30$ from you again
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>>581560823
Someone posted an image of their Imp that looked like it was the HD version. Why the fuck would Succubus be SD when they added Incubus as well? The dichotomy would be jarring as fuck.
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>monkeyniggws is already 17 on his second warrior after he dinged 20 with his "main" also a warrior
it's so over we can't compete against the EU welfare system. they need to nerf it
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>>581556149
>fishing hut
Doesn't fishing involve hunting for fish schools?
If you get comparable drops fishing on regular water with the hut what's the point?
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Got Mage up to LVL 20, feels pretty much the same? Nothing new and exciting for fire? Am I missing something?
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Alright niggers I want to goy it up and buy in but im concerned its not "playable". Not because of performance. However in terms of player count. Is there just 5000 players on every inch of the map or is layering actually doing its job? Will i be allowed to actually engage with professions?
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>>581560920
Why do you care about other people?
I'm level 14 on my dwarf shaman just enjoying the game.
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>>581560947
Mage is by far and away the least changed class gameplay wise. I mean it's hardly surprising.
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>>581560947
>he fell for it
gg no refunds
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>>581556647
>>enhance shaman
lol no unless you're playing with a couple bros, shaman is a force multiplier but eats shit on its own
>sub
will do great
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>>581560947
we got arcane blast dude its tbc thats innovation big changes mane
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>>581556647
go warlock for easy mode pvp
go druid or mage for become skilled pvp
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>>581559719
>Create skelf horde
>Someone made a char named Nipical Tiggas
>3 people saying they are reporting that guy
Not very chud
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>mfw i see a blue elf slut giving me bedroom eyes
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>>581560920
despite euros having infinity free time they still cant beat us in videogames
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>>581561013
That's why I grabbed the beta, now I'll either play ASS Rogue or Lone Wolf hunter. I assume arrows are not unlimited like retail right?
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>>581560980
devs always make the game design to revolve aound uber elitist neets who complain 24/7 about the game being too easy or boring.
you have to be a complete a newfag in the mmo scene to not know that
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>>581560804
it's a lvl 17 weapon you idiot
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>>581560915
thats how it has been in classic since they added incubus
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>>581561091
we just prefer playing superior european games like clair obscure and bg3
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>>581561109
i pvp. dont care about pve race nerds or their devs.
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>>581561129
holy shit
MOAR
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seems like firemage will just be frostfire because it just doesn't seem worth going down into arcane
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>>581561149
hon hon le superior games he says on the american site and videogame forum instead of clair obscura
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i miss when elves weren’t blue
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>>581553903
those arent mechanics i want in a game
its sweat faggotry, having to time with server ticks is not fun
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>>581561129
Made for white men
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>>581559753
Daddy Dom Little Girl. Basically normal human relationship, but bumped to the extreme where the girl acts like she's 5 again and the dom acts like a Billionaire Werewolf CEO.

It doesn't have much to do with trannies or even hebe/pedo shit, but I guess the ultra degenerates have taken over it.
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>>581561129
NEED SKY WIVES
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The Leyline racial seems busted as fuck. There is no way Leylines are all over the world right?
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>>581561229
rapist peasant phenotype
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>>581561159
the neet I was talking about is mainly a pvp player. it will affect you as well eventually with dumb buffs-nerfs or shitty ranking/arena systems. just wait and see
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>>581561118
They nerfed the shit out of every single spell's base damage for casters and gave them better coefficients. So now getting weapons with big chunks of SP is how they get a ton of their power. It takes like 200 SP to break even at level 60. It's not even remotely a problem. It just means casters get to scale adequately now, you fucking mouthbreather.
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>>581560531
>shadow mastery reducted to +5%
why?
Most capstone talents look mid compared to classic
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whats the non seal twist ret pally
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>Holly Longdale
>Forever is already breaking Classic 2019 records for just the beta

EVEN HOLLY iS TELLING RETARDS TO SIMMER THAT THEY'LL UPDATE AND MAKE CHANGES
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>>581561221
1995?
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>>581561295
Because your DoT's scale a lot better now and also deal 10% more damage when Wrack is ticking. It's fine numerically, but honestly it's a boring fucking talent for how deep it is into the tree.
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>>581561295
All the party buff talents are gone as well. No more s.priests buffing lock damage or fire mages buffing ele sham damage
Feels retail as fuck
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>>581561343
Im sorry, I really cant stand her. She comes across as so fake and when she was wearing that elf dress on stage I rolled my eyes so hard. She is trying so hard to be young and cool.
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>>581561360
1985
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>Ask if Beta is even playable with so many people.
>No response
Alright waiting it is.
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>>581561343
She's such a fricking nerd lol
I love her
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>>581561343
We must protect her
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>>581560947
40 more levels
>hot streak at 25 but your crit chance will be dogshit so whatever
>ice lance at 25 too, fingers of frost at 30/31
>arcane blast at 25, never played mage but it looks pretty weak to me, are you meant to cast it a couple times and switch to fireball /frost bolts?
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>>581561343
>simping for holly "I destroyed 2 iconic mmos beyond repair" longdale
the absolute state of this general
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>>581561372
Also means that if you have more than one Fire mage, one of them doesn't get made into a Scorch bitch who exists to make the others look better. Fair trade off. There's plenty of utility and buffs to go around. Have you seen how fucking disgusting Cure of Elements is?
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>>581561343
>methinks
holy redditdale
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>>581561343
>come what way
We shall live on, we must.
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>>581560359
Is there a way to do this without a VPN
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>they didn't add the second level back to Ironforge
Missed opportunity, think of all the real estate they could've had for new quests, vendors, class trainers, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOTtEpXf4b0
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>>581561391
lighten up a bit would ya
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>>581561372
INVITE*clap*THE*clap*PLAYER
NOT*clap*THE*clap*CLASS
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>>581560947
Not missing anything, mage is very straightforward (and boring). There's a reason it's the lowest picked class in most lists, not because its bad, but because theres only so much excitement people can find in spamming frostbolt
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>>581561521
>"I destroyed 2 iconic mmos beyond repair
huh?
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>>581561642
Mage is the make your own fun kind of class. You have to kill in style. Stunt on them hoes if you will.
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>>581561575
wasn't hayven the guy who died long time ago? I swear there are only 2 iconic wow explorers. this guy and that sempai troon
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>>581561521
Holly didn't run Retail or Era/Anni you buffoon.
She's been unfucking our games if anything after years of drunk retards in charge
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>>581560531
>Nightfall
4% proc chance. You'll only get procs from corruption (tick every 3s). Average one proc in 3 / 0.04 = 75 seconds. Proc turns your 2.5s shadowbolt into a 1.5s shadowbolt (gcd), a saving of 1s. With pure shadowbolt spam, that's a dps increase of 1/75 = 1.3% for two points and going that deep into aff. In reality, you don't just spam shadowbolt, so the effective dps increase is <1%.
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>>581561642
Mage is just such a helpless class. Your party could be getting killed by ogres but you'll have absolutely zero tools to help the situation.
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>>581561369
It just feels bad, like changing ruin to a 5 point talent when SM/Ruin was so iconic
>>581561372
Doing this but keeping buffs like leader of the pack party based and nerfing it to 3% is retarded.
Either keep them as vanilla, streamline raid buffs like wotlk did or remove them all together, this half and half design makes no sense.
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When is there a DLSS 5 option?
https://x.com/r00t404t/status/2101116308343431592/video/1?s=61
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>>581561704
He's talking about Everquest you idiot.
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i dont want another 2019 era run too many of you are faggots and shitters and lamers
i like my comfy smaller nerd communities :(
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>>581561737
wasnt there some thing that increased corruption proc rate to 1 per sec
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>>581561737
Crazy that Nightfall still doesn't make Shadowbolt free. I remember leveling a lock in HC and hating the talent because it was a net loss nine times out of ten to actually use it while leveling.
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>>581561739
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So I'm leveling between hardcore and this wowF just to see differences.
Yes you dont run out of mana as fast, but thats because the baseline abilities cost less. Wrath for example cost 10 in wowF but 20 in classic.
leveling feels a bit faster BUT that is because there are more quests available for you. if you ignore those quests it feels about the same imo.
and idk where people get the idea that mobs arent dangerous, i most certainly die if i have 2 mobs on me (as mage) :/
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>>581561343
Don't care.
I only listen to socially awkward mexican girl
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>>581561757
looks like shit my dude
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6X_jZsv3m3I
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>>581561861
I thought she was from Spain she's really lightskinned for a Meixcan
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RETAILBABS STATUS: ____?
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>>581561343
there will literally be no balance changes before launch, mark my words
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How the fuck are retail players just NOW noticing that retail models are ass? I havent thought about making a Human since the graphics update years ago after seeing how fucking goofy the faces are.
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>>581561737
Weird, it linked the wrong build. Those two points should be in Improved Agony. I initially put them in Nightfall before realizing only Corruption procs or for Destro. I even mentioned Imp Agony in the post.
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>>581561765
everquest died long long long before this whore ever had anything to do with it

eq was dying in 2003 and dead and buried in 04, even if wow never came out it would not have survived omens
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>>581561923
>they are making WoW 2 to be launched after the last titan
>wow forever is just a small side project
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>>581561950
there is something wrong with the eyes. they look like fent addicts or something like that.
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>>581561895
survivable.
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>esfand complaining for one hour about them changing the human death sound
How is he not our guy? Everyone else is slurping it up meanwhile this guy is crapping on every little change.
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>>581554621
>if they added sub-classes
what do you think specs are?
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>>581561948
lol
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>>581562018
>WoW 2
Introducing our new 45 dollar subscription to play and 2000 dollar mounts, we didn't stop botters, but please play our goyslop.
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>>581562035
Because he's a sanctimonious faggot who's terrible at the game and could care very little about anything outside the scope of being a "Human Ret Pally" and what he thinks that should mean. Fuck that fat loser.
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>>581562035
I've not heard a single complaint about the new water splash sound and it's really fucking triggering me.
Every time it happens I get massive whiplash.
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When the fuck are they raising the level cap to 30.
I need my bae.
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are there any large pvp fights going on in the pvp server?
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>>581561835
As a warrior (sub lvl 10) it's easy to take 2 mobs at once, 3 at once if they are 1 level below. But hard to gauge anything below level 15 desu.
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>>581562035
well it certainly is going to be a giganctic battle between classic player feedback vs. retail player feedback.

soon enough we'll know which side has the louder voice
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What's going on here?
I thought frostfire bolts for ignite + ice shards might be a build
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>>581562105
succubus is lvl20 just go do her quest
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Is everyone level 20 already? What now?
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>>581562035
>the human death sound
that fat mexican would know all about that huh
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>>581562105
Succubus is level 20. Felhunter is 30.
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>toggling HD models on ages up the female characters I made by 20 years
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>>581562125
the only pvp I have seen is happening on the route from southshore to UC for the new dungeon
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>>581562182
world pvp
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>>581562182
Try to break the game, have massive pvp battles etc.
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>>581562219
>there, made a cute gnome ma- OH MY GOODNESS
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>>581562150
It's been lower damage than Fireball and Frost Bolt every time its ever existed. It's only ever better due to cast times/synergies. For instance there might be a world where speccing for both Hot Streak and FoF and spamming FFB to proc both of them is good. Maybe. Possibly. I doubt it.
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>>581562184
>Esfand
>Mexican
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What's easy/fun for pve, class-wise. I don't wanna roll ud pally like everyone else rn
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>>581562035
is he still stalling instead of dinging 20?
I wanted to see how paladins perform while leveling but he's always walking around a city doing fuck all
I hate streamers so much it's unreal
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>>581562182
be gay, do crime
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>>581562262
I told that bitch not to do meth, well who's laughing now!?!
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>>581562272
Mage
>fun
nevermind
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>>581562219
What's funny is that the HD models actually work quite well in a lot of horde.
It's like the original modelers fucking hated horde, while the HD modellers didn't give half a shit about alliance.
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>>581562272
Warlock.
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>>581562283
dont watch influencers
watch gamers (they have under 100 viewers)
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>>581562262
look at her so young and happy, where did the years go?
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Why the fuck cant you turn off or down the fog, holy shit
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>>581562182
erp
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>>581561697
>wasn't hayven the guy who died long time ago?
Yeah. Cancer.
>I swear there are only 2 iconic wow explorers. this guy and that sempai troon
I don't know who that sempai guy is. There's a lot of people that do one-off videos about leaked alpha content that show shit that no other video does for some reason, I recall one that showed the alpha deeprun tram populated with fucked up, weird looking gnomes. You also have people nowadays like Turbotarzan, 720 zone, etc, but they just don't produce videos the same way.
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>>581562263
Combustion is currently garbage so most players will probably take FoF unless a change is made.
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Esfand looks like one of those people who smells and no matter how much he showers it will never go away
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>>581562393
/console densityfog 0
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>>581562427
sir hes persian not indian
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>>581562427
its called being brown
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>>581562427
You sound like one of those noshoes half a loading screen away from getting deus vult'd
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sars... is the thread dead?
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Should the day cycle be 12 hours?
I feel like a lot will miss out on the beautiful views and different ambients if it stays as 24 hours.
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>>581560223
this
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>>581562268
Sorry, is he moroccan or something then? I'm not up to date on my browns
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>>581562425
I mean I kind of hope Frostfire is the play. It's the only Mage rotation that looks even nominally interesting compared to other casters. Destro Lock has 6 fucking buttons in its rotation, and it's not even a slightly complicated rotation. Frost mage has fucking two.
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>>581562519
>>581562530
Look I'm just saying every time I see him his hair and beard looks greasy and every time I've been near a person that hairy they've always had a strong distinctive smell
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saaars am i hungry?
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>>581560869
I got 1 month+ of farming ARAMs, king. Have you set on a faction/class yet? I would love to see the queen on Horde.
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kek is this shit already dead?
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>>581562419
>I don't know who that sempai guy is
he made a lot of videos like this one back on classic that backfired and ended being part of the lock bot summon meta. guilds that wanted to raid with world buffs had to do these kind of "exploits" to dodge pvp griefing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0Ilt9a74E
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>>581562574
Iranian iirc
It's funny that he's larping as a human when he's actually the archetypal dwarf
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>>581562582
How is Frostfire rotationally different from Fire. It's not like you'll be using Ice Lance outside of pvp or extremely rare pve encounters that actually require movement.
If anything it's just going to feel lame when Pyroblast crits for less than FFB.
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>>581562574
He's Iranian.
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>>581562103
that is exactly how you're supposed to play classic.
irl i've seen him go out of his way to leave the vip area at conventions and meet fans and he hasn't tried to rape, scam, or denigrate anyone so if i actually watched streams that would put him in the top 5 most watchable
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>>581562653
>pvp griefing
they could've just not played on shitty minigame servers
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>>581562150
frostfire will be better in every way
higher spelldmg coefficent per second with talents and benefits from frost talents
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>>581562053
I mean independent of class. So you can be a Mage/Bard, a Warrior/Bard, etc.
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Are bullets and arrows unlimited?
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>>581562620
Just wait until launch when every third post is someone spamming the latest gay couple npc quest they found in Hyjal.
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thunder clapping in defensive stance feels fucking good.
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>>581562736
do quivers exist?
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>>581562736
no you need to get ammo/arrows
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>>581562658
Because Frostfire Bolt actually procs FoF, which lets you use Ice Lance as part of your rotation. It's an extra button to press that hits fucking hard.
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>>581560598
hello? these guys aren’t in forever wow are they? please tell me these guys are in forever wow?
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I wanna thunder clap a woman sexually
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>>581562765
>>581562767
Nevermind then, should be like retail and just aim and shoot without worry.
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Why am I even playing this? I'll just be burned out when release happens
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>>581561916
there's something about some areas where the women are way lighter skinned than the men, eg. iranians
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>get ganked by undead barb
>he whips out a violent and strums a few notes before cannibalizing you
dude wtf...
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>>581562740
>he doesn't know about the gay trogg quest in dun morogh near the quarry
Yike
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>>581559592
Good thing I don't play with retards (Im from the EU)
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>>581562620
yeah all the streamers already gave up on it kek it's fricking epic
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>>581562767
so they want rogues and warriors to use thrown weapons and leave actual ranged weapons to hunters
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>>581562809
no it shouldn't be.
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>>581562425
It's not just the choice between FoF and Combustion. FoF forces you to go 20 points into frost where the majority of the points are essentially wasted.

29 points into fire means you lose out on 1 point in fire power and 2 points elsewhere (probably master of elements) on top of combustion. You lose out on clearcasting, and 3 flex points that can go into arcane subtlety, magic absorption or incineration
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>>581562782
Frostfire Bolt is still going to be higher damage on a shatter target thanks to ignite and the fact it generates hot streak stacks.
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>>581561948
they already said that some specs are undercooked and will be changed before launch
hell, I'm pretty sure they explicitly warned people against making builds based off the beta talents, because most would be changed before launch
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YEah on release forever is gonna have even more people on it

wow is back as a mmorpg finally
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>>581562853
i’ve played enough private servers to know you tards are not much better.
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>levelling a dudu
>every encounter is keeping moonfire up and meleeing with a mace since Wrath is nerfed
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>>581562960
zelda and gta is going to hurt the launch numbers
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Anyone tried the "ultra" settings

/console ffxAntiAliasingMode 0
/console ResampleQuality 3
/console ResampleSharpness 0.7
/console shadowTextureSize 4096
/console reflectionMode 3
/console rippleDetail 3
/console groundEffectDensity 128
/console groundEffectDist 500
/console lodObjectFadeScale 200
/console lodObjectCullSize 8
/console doodadLodScale 200
/console terrainLodDist 1000
/console weatherDensity 3
/console graphicsSpellDensity 5
/console spellClutter 0
/console cameraDistanceMaxZoomFactor 2.6
/console entityShadowFadeScale 50
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I dont know how I feel about 80% of the players being paladins, it's a little dull
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>>581562878
>wasted
+hit rating
+crit for your staple spell
-mana cost and threat for your staple spell
+50% crit for your staple spell
ICE BLOCK
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>>581562997
It's hell until you get spellpower
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>>581563027
new class combo its gonna calm down on release
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>>581563008
Different audiences.
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it's okay to admit the two name system was a failure, blizzard
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>>581562997
>get to lvl12 and some spell dmg gear
>two shot everything with wrath
the game is only challenging between lvls 8 and 12
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>>581563008
>console exclusives are going to hurt the launch numbers of a PC exclusive
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>>581563008
>zelda
you almost had us, nintennig
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>>581562729
so you mean multiclassing
sounds interesting, but also hellish to balance
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>>581562908
Fuck you're probably right. They should really make FoF only apply to Ice Lance. Or just any instant cast like Fire Blast. Comparing Mage rotations to other casters is depressing. Except Elemental but I'm used to that being bland.
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>>581562723
>>581562723
I mean, even with cast time reduction being more powerful on frostfire it's not looking good, your spell power is going to need to carry very hard.
Maybe there are more talents I've missed
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>>581563008
I'm playing and 100% OOT before I even start Forever. Ill reserve my name and play Zelda first. Leveling wont take long and 60 is max.
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>>581563057
Sure but even on Alliance almost everyone I see is a human paladin
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would anyone actually ERP with a forsaken for gold
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>>581563057
there's more undead paladins than blueys. logic doesn't track.
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>>581563123
nah, maybe for silver though
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would anyone actually diaper ERP with a forsaken for gold
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>>581563095
It benefits from Ice Shards and Shatter.
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>>581563025
Do you have one for ultra LOW settings?
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>>581563027
They'll all reroll to different classes on launch. Ret pals have actual buttons and are playable on horde so ofc everyone and their mother is playing one atm.
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>>581562339
>original modellers (~2004) hate the bad guys
>nu-modellers (~2014) hate the good guys
I wonder what cultural changes could have happened in the mean time
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>>581563092
Multiclassing, but you multiclass as a microclass. 2, maybe 3 actives, 1 passive.
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>>581562696
I mean you can say that they did. after tbc we had like 4 "pvp" megaservers and all of them were either 90% horde or alliance so it kinda was like another pve realm.
it seems that pvp is not that fun on shit official servers when you have +40 multiboxers spamming aoe on guilds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8lgkFD-l-8
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>>581563186
Lower those values i guess
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>blue elves cant be mages, warlocks or priests
>gotta go alliance if you wanna wear a dress and shoot magic rocks
this fuckin sucks. how are shamans so far
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>>581563076
that's just PvP and PvE server naming
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>>581559069
>>581559169
I didn't know that either. I just logged in at 3am to check the AH real quick before going back to bed, and it was dark, the city was empty except for a few other insomniacs like me. What a kino 40 minutes of quiet playtime. Never played WoW before. Really does feel like a lived-in world.
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>>581563202
HD forsaken look like fucking dogshit
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Can hunters learn maces now or no?
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>>581562339
Yeah, no. The tauren look ridiculous, the orcs lose their meanness, the trolls look like goofballs and the undead are just blue and green people.
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>>581563291
lol
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>>581563202
Horde were the actual good guys in vanilla, it was right after wc3.
Then they went full retard with the "story"
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>>581559069
I thought they were tied to server time
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>>581563204
could work, though if they do that (serious doubt) I'd like to see some extra powerful abilities for people who just go deep into one class eg. mage/mage getting buffed/stronger mage stuff than a warrior/mage or rogue/mage would get
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>>581563076
RP will be much better when every player is some variation of Sorrowsworth Darkhaven
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>>581563095
well either basedmg numbers aren't final or fireball is better until you have good enough gear
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anyone gotten their mount yet
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>>581563432
The cap is only level 20, anon.
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>>581563410
many are going to pick RP ruleset just to avoid dogshit names
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>>581563123
>Yes they're real
>They're not mine, but they're real
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>>581563490
thank you for this world of warcraft forever related post
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>>581563489
and just like that inflation was fixed
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>>581563489
wait this isnt just a beta only "try whatever" type of vendor?
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>playing on an oled monitor
uc is so fucking dark holy shit i cant see
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>>581563545
>he doesn't know about the gta vi collab with wow
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>>581563489
>beta info where nearly everything is placeholder
>yep this is how it will work
clickbait niggers are so tiresome
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>>581563484
RP server will still be full of Chaed Levinshaft, from my experience RP servers are just full of irony poisoned gooners who think they're clever.
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>>581563575
sorry bro, you dont have to buy gold anymore just to afford raid mats
maybe thats a deal breaker for you
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>>581563489
why don't governments just do this irl?
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>>581563612
if people like it then it will be kept probably
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>>581563642
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Laws
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>>581563612
why the fuck would they have placeholder endgame vendors in a beta that doesn't go past 30
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>>581563008
console niggers do not play mmos
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is there a setting to change bloom density?
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They have 20 years of content if they play their cards right.
Wild.
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>>581563407
No no, you misunderstood. The idea is that the second class isn't a full-fledged class, it's something that only really functions as a "theme". Bard is the best example: how do you make a full Bard class that doesn't step on the toes of rogue (duelist that fights with a sword and dagger), shaman and paladin (group wide buffs in an area)? Or Tinker: how is it mechanically any different from a hunter with engineering (guns, traps, explosives and gadgets) or a druid (enter forms, in tinker's case mech suits, to fight)?
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our lord has spoken

THE GAME IS A SHIT CASHGRAB FOR RETOILETS.
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>>581563076
>he's not a rp chad
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>>581563253
help. are shammys painful or fun
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my barber ui is empty
as is my character panel wtf
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>>581563637
but this doesn't solve the price inflation, it just moves it from where it previously was on just endgame raiding crap to something one step less rare, shafting all normal players in the process as well.
I was able to heartily profit from a rare drop but now im fucked
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>>581563723
cant wait for them to start nickle and diming us with more retail content until its literally just retail
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>>581563764
mana problems
enhance is shit in pvp
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>>581563773
it's currently bugged. blizz is aware and gonna fix it soon
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>>581563853
god damnit
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>>581563773
>he didnt buy the barber dlc
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Blasting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mjlM_RnsVE
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>>581563764
ele looks great imo
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My jewish housewife when i say im gonna play world of warcraft forever™
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>>581562182
Play another game.
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>>581563789
what is going get inflated in price?
you dont need to be big money from drops anymore because shit wont be as expensive so less money will do the same job
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>>581563723
They could have a thousand years of content if you chuddies didn't abandoned the Classic Progressive servers after Vanilla! >:(
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>>581563732
wasn't he done with wow like 5 years ago and deleted his twitch and youtube?
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>>581563959
Imagine that beak of a nose nuzzling into your taint...
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>>581562620
60 USD for 10 hours of leveling gameplay.
Scammed by Blizzard again
And they keep falling for it
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>>581563985
>everybody will be rich
as long as there is anything in the economy that is player driven, that is not how it works
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>wake up lv20
>log on, do new dungeon
>no one talks until the end when trying to find new bosses
>no one wants to do anything after
>nothing to do
>completely soulless feel to the game
Is it DOA?
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>>581563489
Source? I want to send this to my friends.
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>>581562620
>dead
I can't tag a fucking mob. this shit is cancer
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>>581563773
HD models look so fucking soulless.
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LF3M AZSHARA GROTTO RAID
MUST HAVE NAGABANE REGALIA AND TIDEWALKER TRINKET
ABYSSAL PEARLS ON RESERVE
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>>581563836
Isnt ele fine with water shield
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>>581564163
they look sharp and crisp
they shouldve run the classic models through ai honestly
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>>581564096
not what I said
again
tell me what is going to get inflated since they have fixed MAX price for rare crafting mats?
GDKP is banned
enchanting tips are going to be 100g now? doubt that
portals will be 50g? nope
>>
What were they thinking capping the game at level 20?
They should have let me complete the entire game lmao now the game is DEAD because I poopsocked and completed it already!
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>>581564132
i think playing with ahead of the curve neets on beta isn't really gonna net you active speakers
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>>581564132
>no one talks until the end when trying to find new bosses
its a blizzard game. people have wisened up and just moved all communication to discord so blizzard's AI GM's wont autoban you for a typo that it misconstrues as a racist attack
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>>581562620
>>581561343
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>lvl 26! items on AH
Someone found an exploit
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>paid 75 dollars (beta+sub) for under 20 hours of gameplay
This a bigger ripoff than single player games
>>
Have they said why they didn't bring back the leveling raids from SoD?
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>>581564170
/w Anon inv, ret here 590 gs got curve
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>>581564146
its ingame
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>>581564252
This, I've been chatbanned enough times for calling someone retarded, I just dont speak now unless I have to
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>>581563489
This only works if gold buying is truly banned.
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>>581564209
nah, they look like GTA definitive edition abominations

a very high chance some indian sweatshop made them as well when you look at the level of bastardization across the breadth of the models
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>>581564289
holy shit 11 Willenskraft??!
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>>581564289
can't you fish chests for high level items ?
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>>581564309
Your didn't even need to buy the sub lmao. Nor did you need to buy the beta. It's just a test, anon. At least you got sex elves out of it.
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>>581564309
lmao he didnt play the wc3 campaign and thinks level 20 is the cap
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>>581564315
*checks armory*
bro why the fuck do u have seal twisting lmao
respec shockadin and whisper me again
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>>581564364
>GTA definitive edition
There are actual subhumans that like that goyslopped++++ ass demaster
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>>581563618
I want to try the RP server but I don't want to engage in conversation if I find a random campfire with people and just want their buffs. Like I'm 3/7 wolves into this quest, I'm just here for 60 seconds.
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>>581564289
There are probably several areas where you can kite high level mobs to guards
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>>581564289
there are some lootable objects in the new zone that give lootboxes that have crafted mats and sometimes items in them
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>>581560320
>it's another episode of doomjeets ignoring the fact healing and magic spell base values were nerfed
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>>581564426
fuck you, reported
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>>581564289
OHH DUDE 44 RUSTUNG STOFF??
AHHHH
1 INTELLIGENZ 11 WILLENSKRAFT?
OHHH UHGGGG
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>>581564391
willpower
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>>581564510
Lmao fuck you i laughed
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people are exploiting past level 20 already
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>>581564428
>the campsite is two female skelves kneeling right in front of each other
>they don't respond to your greetings
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>>581564510
I can hear his voice
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>be multimillionaire grifting migatards
>still mazed to play WoW
based...
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>>581564213
how do you not understand basic supply and demand
literally everything not sold by vendors will be more expensive than usual
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>>581561745
Yup it feels retarded that for 40m you still need multiple windfury shamans and multiple ferals, but then other classes either have raid wide utility or removed entirely. Like what kind of design is this? It feels like all the changes were made haphazardly.
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>>581564448
totally
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Lmao what the fuck is this shit. Are these devs completely incapable of restraining themselves?
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>>581564427
to be fair the chinamen who most likely did the modeling never saw a darkie IRL
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>>581563253
bro your female troll?
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>>581563732
Imagine letting someone else form your opinion. Couldn't be me.
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>>581564606
it's okay, just grab a chair
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>>581564606
Perfect. Ignore me.
>Plants a fishbowl.
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>Blood Elf women would be your permanent cockslave just for 1 (one) singular fel crystal
So anyways I have a feeling Blood Elves are gonna end up with the Alliance this go around and we will NEVER EVER get to play high elves
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>>581564665
>chinamen
Bro, the credits had like 2000 Indians listed, we know who really made it
>>
VRS on or off
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>>581564617
that name faintly rings a bell, who is that?
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>>581561521
You telling me if she offered to jerk you off with some mommy rp while whispering sweet nothings about WoW to you, you wouldn't cum?
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>>581564621
explain how, the fact crafting mats have a cap means crafted gear will have a cap and that will cap BoEs as well, there is nothing left that can inflate in price
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>all the private server garbage is now gone

WoW is healing
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>>581564713
alliance blood elves just don't work desu, they're so horde coded in so many ways and they would have to turn back on sylvannas, their dead relatives and just ignore all the horseshit garithos did
hell even before tbc there was a lot of horde aligned blood elves in quests
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>>581564739
Brad Pitt's brother
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>>581564772
well yeah because forever IS the new private server
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>>581564661
Please understand, communication is hard so they didn't know they were making classic-style content
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>>581564648
What are your trying to prove here? He's still right.
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>>581564668
the toes ruin it for me
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I never played vanilla. I got into WoW at the tail end of Wrath. Is Forever hard?
>>
Daralan is exaclty what we'd been hoping for, looks just like in wotlk and a soulless empty husk with nothing to do
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>>581564132
That's what removing mana breaks does to the game, the hobo camps aren't going to improve it btw, people will just afk inside while doing chores
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why people hate hunters?
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>>581564617
>>581564739
nvm, made the mistake of looking him up
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>>581564720
in wow's case it's definitely made for chinks, with how every old character looks like a 90yo chink
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>>581564309
Don’t worry, the real launch will be a even larger rugpull, the game is launching with ONLY onyx in raid, ONLY WSG will be enabled, and people will be stuck farming Strat Scholo and the two new endgame dungeons for two months until Midnight(tm)s and MoPClassic(tm) new content patches have been played out, and it’s time for the ants to be moved back to the Forever(tm). Part of the blizzard ant maze.

We are talking about the same company which launched TBC classic with 3 whole raids that were in vanilla TBC launch RIPPED out of the game and disabled so they could “pace content release” after all.
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>>581564661
>your next quest after this as a skyborne shaman is to go help a butcher refill his shop in crossroads
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>>581561948
I doubt they will even have the shitty performance and memory leak fixed for launch. It's stuck in the spaghetti code of
>4 megaservers with name locking across all 4
>classic+retail model toggles
>brand new lighting/fog/water systems
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>>581564661
Anon what precisely do you mean this shit is what the elemental plane of air looks like are you retarded? Did you even play Cata?
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>>581564768
you are lacking critical information that you can look up on your own
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>>581564843
>Is Forever hard?
No. Classic is the easiest the game ever was. Everyone just sucked dick back then and was playing on dial up so it seemed a lot harder than it actually was. It's a lot of fun, though. Maybe they'll make the new raids more challenging so guilds can actually progress.
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>>581564856
the original death knight
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>>581564843
same as wrath
harder than cataclysm for sure
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>>581564864
from spamming nigger in discord to this. pretty based ngl
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>ignore list is FULL of asians
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>>581563612
>release is in month and a half
Dumb fucking retard. This is how it will work. The only possible improvements they can make is iron out their megaserver sharding and fudge numbers. Everything else is locked in.
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Is rogue even worth playing for PVE
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>>581564856
They tend to backpeddle into trash packs.
When jumping down from ledges their pets often run around and aggro a ton of mobs.
They have an infamous history for need rolling nearly every weapon under the belief that anything with either Int, Str or Agi on it is a 'hunter weapon'.
They're the most low skill high yield class in pvp.
Probably the second most prevalent ganking class right behind rogues.
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>>581564926
Forever is baby mode in comparison. No weapon skills. That was half of the frustration.
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>>581564868
its so damn soulless..... Chinese or not, why cant people do proper remasters without butchering the look?
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>>581564856
bad rep because hunter players are usually selfish assholes thanks to the fact they can solo almost everything so they never have to rely on anyone else and dont learn how to treat other players in WoW
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>>581564864
Dood left behind small-time classic wow streaming and instead went to farm rednecks on youtube, apparently it really is that easy
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>>581564895
>level 13 scrub confronts a raid boss with the npc gang
just like how I remember the old world
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>>581564856
Extremely easy to fuck up and pull extra shit. Has a legitimate need for melee weapons even though melee need them more. Generally played by retards.
>>
FIRST MOUNT AT 30
FAST RIDING AT 60

REFUTE ME
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>>581563115
It's beta so people want to try the new thing

I'm gonna fuck around on a paladin but at launch I'll roll a warrior because they're a better class
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>>581564923
>educate yourself
no u
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>>581565003
Brain dead class, almost as bad as retardins
It could pull some cool tricks way back then like kiting ubrs final boss adds but most hunters were smooth brains and couldn't pull it.
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>>581565006
>No weapon skills
HUH
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doomjeets just making shit up again
>>
Do you think Asha is the reason they announced Starcraft and Diablo so early? I know they dont have the con every year anymore and who knows if it's coming again, but they could have saved them for Keighley.
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>>581565006
Weapon skills still exist you fucking moron.
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There's a permanent portal to Dalaran in the SW mage tower.
Way to make the southshore boat useless blizzard
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>>581565201
lmao youve been making this same complaint all day every thread for days now
get a fucking job bro
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did anyone else who used MyMaccas to get a beta key encounter issues with their card/payment?
tried 2 different New Zealand debit cards and both came up with payment error messages despite spoofing + VPN. what's the work around?
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>>581564972
>that one asian girl playing as night elf I partied last night
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>>581565118
I hope someone makes a classic stat panel UI because this shit looks like a mobile game
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>>581563375
Oh yeah you might be right, server time was my local time so I forgot that this might be the case.
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>>581564754
I'm a mmo junkie mate I stopped caring about sex and women in general long time ago
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>>581564856
It's both a brainless and an extremely complicated class so it's both really easy to fuck up and REALLY apparent when you do, yet because of being brainless at a base level it attracts a lot of those retards.
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>>581565118
hmmm
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>>581565201
Finally a way to reach SM for alliance
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>>581565048
I hope undead hunters aren't a think because darkfallen are right around the corner.
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>>581564868
>just
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>>581565232
>girl
lol
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>>581565245
>I stopped caring about sex and women in general
basado, that stuff is for kids - focus on what's really important like fun and video games
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We only like young elven women, mommy issue soys and chuds who like old women can fuck off
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>>581565048
>no tummy
I don't know how to feel about this
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>>581565201
Hillsbrad is so fucked for horde on the pvp realm.
Any time you're bored on Alliance and want to crush some noshoes just take the portal and camp the yeti cave for awhile.
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>>581565041
>great enemy of the darkspear trolls the naga sea witch gets taken out in tutorial cinematic quest
I'm still upset
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>>581565003
>They have an infamous history for need rolling nearly every weapon under the belief that anything with either Int, Str or Agi on it is a 'hunter weapon'.
I WILL do this and you WILL be happy.
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>>581565317
don't forget about benzos and opiates. those are the only things I care about in my life. vidya gaemz and drugs
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>>581565316
If they looked like this I would not mind.
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Dwarf priest or dwarf paladin. I just can't pick. I have no interest in shadow as I want to be pure, but I like priest symbolism more.
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>>581565418
wow...
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>>581564868
wtf I had no idea that My Guy looks like he drinks malt liquor and snorts speed every day in retail
Can’t decide if I hate what happened to his brows or the beard more
>>
trannies are cute untill you remember they age like bananas

bang their little tight canadian asian butthole cum bigly and move on within 3-4 years before they hit the wall
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>>581565109
Level 20: Slow Loaner Mount (pay stable master to ride a mount for up to 30 mins)
Level 40: Slow Mount, Fast Loaner Mount
Level 60: Fast Mount, Faster Loaner Mount (150%)
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We need classic ui
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First green upgrade! VGH i can feel the MEANINGFVL JOVRNEY
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>>581565527
download an addon gweilo
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>>581565525
yea
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>>581565418
>Izutsumi if she real
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>my Retail guild of 3 years
There are also like 6 more people from the main roster who said they're quitting as soon as Forever launches. GM is in shambles
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>>581565518
>trannies are cute
Why not just get the real thing instead of a pale imitation? Women are like troons but actually hot and cute without effort, men cant compete.
>>
Hmmm... I think I'm gonna roll a nelf warrior
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>>581565551
should not be necessary we're classic+
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Are leylines still a thing after you leave the skelf island?
>>
THE GAMES MEMORY LEAK IS FUCKING BAD MAN
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So is Divine Shield + Cannibalize busted or not
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>>581565317
When I became a wizard at 30 I abandoned gooning for sex with yellow beasts. Hope to fuck big booty goblins eventually.
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>>581565684
Ehhhhh
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>>581565662
yeah it shouldnt be necessary to download DBM for 23 years of wow either but it is.
you're complaining about something you can easily change fuck off
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>>581565684
Mustn't rape.....
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>>581565685
>Hope to fuck big booty goblins eventually
noble aspiration
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>>581565527
honey, this is classic plus
>>
hold up sirs. what's the point of fireball when frostfire bolt procs hot streak??
>>
We all know Rogues are shit, but why are Hunters so underplayed?
>>
Are there skill dependent/bop recipes in Forever? Wondering whether a double crafting character with a gathering bitch is worth it now.
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Did the RP server only just now get added? I didn't see it when I made a character on the beta's launch or yesterday
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>>581565787
They're not that site is shit and clearly not based in any reality
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>>581565787
They are not, it's just some retarded poll not actual stats - hunter will be extremely popular
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>>581565787
Hunters
>gotta buy arrows
>do 0 damage
>long cast times
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>>581565753
>transmog toggle
>hd toggle
>toggle toggle toggle
whoops can't let you toggle ui tho
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Am I tripping or are these sky elves are just blood elves under a different name? They have the exact same model and animations.
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Making an undead paladin on the rp server and macroing variations "OH GOD OH FUCK IT BURNS" to every spell until I get banned
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>want to roll lock
>affliction and destro pve specs both look cool
>orc is bis for aff, troll for destro
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>>581565684
LIGHT... GRANT ME ONE FINAL BLESSING... SHIELD YOUR FAITHFUL SERVANT IN THIS MOMENT OF CRISIS... GUARD ME AGAINST THE SHADOW AS I DO THY BIDDING...
*drops to the ground and starts devouring an innocent farmer*
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>>581565884
Toggle the addon bwo.
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so thankful for playing on NA, wouldve never got to experience night this often if not
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niggas trying to parse in deadmines
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>>581565921
Just play the race you like, retard.
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>>581565921
>minmaxing a casual baby game
lol
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>>581565796
its a visual bug, the server does not exist
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>>581566034
Jokes on you I dislike both.
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>>581565921
I can already see orc warlocks running around outside of Org, spamming troll/ud locks with duel requests.
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if you get a place for a reagent bag does that mean blizzard wants you to choose professions that feed into one another rather than min maxing?
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>>581565518
Honestly sick and tired of all the middle aged troons working on this
Delusion day in day out
Irritating nonhuman voices
Absolutely huge, towering, sharp jawed statures, manly silhouette from any distance and direction
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>>581566080
my game crashed when I clicked on it
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If you play horde you aren't white
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>>581566157
Barrens is kinda soul though ngl
>>
I'm not having fun. This is literally just classic wtf
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>>581566157
t. troon playing night elf or mentally stunted 40 year old manchild
>>
>RP
>Alliance
>Only humans, dwarves, elves and hobbits
Tolkien kino is on the table
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>people thought this was op
>it heals you for maybe 5 health every 30+ swings

I might just go human pally then
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>>581566208
just toggle the classic off
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>>581566210
Wrong on both accounts, what do i win?
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>>581566208
no refunds retail shiteater
>>
>>581563642
Resources irl can’t be magically created.
>>
EU BROS

LAG IS GOING UP
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>>581566229
I joined an all dwarf/gnome autism guild on turtle and it was the most fun I've had playing the game in a while, elves were only allowed in if they could get at least 3 dwarves (not gnomes) to vouch for them
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>>581564864
kirkening fucked him up last year
>>
whenevr i press kick with my sky elf she yells 'chud'
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>>581565626
Trannies are more degenerate and open to sex with randoms to "feel" like women. Actual women have standards and won't let you fuck if they're not attracted to you. Not advocating for them though, the risk of AIDs is the same as gays.
>>
>>581565890
Nope, you're not tripping. Them charging money for that really makes me not want to play this in November desu.
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>>581566380
>>581565890
>WAHHH WAHHH ELVES WAHH

I dont get you guys just dont play them?
>>
>eu ping steadily rising into the 400s

REEEEEEE
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>>581566229
>>
>>581565890
I know this might shock you and others, but blood elves and high elves are in fact the same people only separated by cultural differences, hope this helps.
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>>581566427
I just don't really wanna give any of my money to a team that wants to sell blood elves to me for thirty bucks.
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What are we if not slaves to this torment
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>>581565890
retarded lore and dumb racials you'll never get rid of you will never be a blood elf just like you'll never be a woman
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>>581560307
>>581560307
>>581560307
new
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>>581566247
I was calling people calling it OP mathlets.

The only way it was gonna be good was if it had procced from dots. But it doesn't.
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>>581566492
rekt
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>>581566032
Bro I pink parsed with my 2 available buttons XD
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>>581566572
ME LUV U RUFF
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>>581566572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glpotfntKPs
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What would their Forever have been like?
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>>581566247
I was saying it at announcement. Even if you are absolutely capped out in hp for lvl 60, so around 9k hp....that's only a heal for 500. 500 hp heal is fucking nothing at that point.
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>>581567036
That's not the reason why it's bad.
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>>581566773
These dudes did so much coke and roofie slipping
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>>581566521
gonners to the room temperature corpse feet
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>>581567036
It beats mace/axe spec for pvp
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>>581564661
Lost all faith for the new content they are making INSTANTLY
>>
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LhH7-DCg8xA
Twin... They got our number with this one...
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>>581563490
>30 kilos of tits and ass
this is what a 30kg woman looks like. god I fucking hate porncomic niggers, literally the lowest IQ faggots on the planet
>>
>>581568184
She looks too fat for me
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>>581564868
gnome face, why...
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>mfw I can log in the beta without queues
I was told it was impossible and that hte servers weree full?
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>>581557724
>>mmmm give me what big HUMAN cock (white)
>what
Fucking retarded indians.
>>
>>581561343
>we can't design games! we just release shit then make it a little less shit based on actual WoW player's critique after the fact.



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