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>>581744316
>Furfaggots too traumatized and marginalized by recent events to contest the thread anymore.>off in a corner crying about not being invited to the new hotness.
how do they save retail unironically
>>581744619give skyborne customizations to void elves
Game dramas are stupid.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/wowheads-new-wow-forever-world-map-tool-now-live-382990
This game gonna be a ghost town one month after its release.
>>581744723Retail Won.Reasonable Nostalgiafags won.Forever looks Cool.Furtroons, Doomsissies and No-changes fags lostYUGELYThe future of WoW is Hopeful and Glorious.
>>581744914I want to play forever but the whole campfire bullshit is retarded as fuck>BRO YOU SIT DOWN AND USE SOME ITEM FOR A BUFF THIS IS THE GREATEST MMO SOCIAL INTERACTION EVER!Yeah ok
>>581744723Dark or ghost nipples?
>>581744914gonna be fun as fuck going in blind with the bros...retail you just quest as fast as you can then go wait in group finder til all of you quit LMAO retail wow really is done isn't it? kino is back in the menu at last and maze SLOP TRASH is OUT!
>>581744723Do trolls naturally have huge bazongas or did you stuff your chest?
I will be dogging in to WoW: Forever on November 4th.
>>581744619Make a new expansion that respects peoples' time. Current patch is a very blatant, disgustingly time-gated engagement metric farm. Skipping over the obvious offenders like crests and lockouts limited per week we have garbage like surges on a 45 minute timer (30 after the recent change! wow!), that underground mobslop area filled with elites, open world mobs that always just fucking slow you and raid bosses so overtuned most sweat guilds didn't get Ullie HC week 1 and the HoF is at an all time low (nerfed now! wow!).They also keep promising one thing before an expansion, basically baiting people to buy it, then not delivering or changing their minds. Skill pruning and addon changes were meant to go hand-in-hand with lower raid difficulty becasue nobody wants to participate besides CE masochists like me, but if anything we got harder raids instead.tl;dr fire pic related
Why MMOs are a magnet for troons who play as a woman?
>>581745093Slightly darker to the rest of the skintone.>>581745146Happy accident I just thought was funny enough to not change.
>>581745283Were all gonna play on RP right?I get the feeling pvp is gonna be ultra toxic orbit cancer, populated by infinity male undead rogues and stacked wall to wall with streamer blobsPvE will be normcattle guidemaxers seeking to ruin he game at warp speed and screaming at you for not playing an optimal race class and spec.RP is the only choice that seems even possible to make.
>>581745374None of that fixes retail being a lobbygame maze simulator. You are no better than Ion. Let me help;>Delete m+>Delete raid difficulties>delete LFR >ban all addons>delete world quests>ban addons>remove flying>remove RDF>rework classes to actually have unique strengths and weaknesses instead of buttonmash sloppaThere you go. Not very hard, tbqh.
There's too many people at Brewfest where's the sharding
>>581745683Just go play regular Classic, you spaz.
>>581744619Xal'atath footjob cinematic
Li Li Stormstout!
>>581745672haha yea bro be sure to roll on the RP server we're all right behind ya lmaoooooo just kidding gay boy
>>581745374>if anything we got harder raids instead.this actually pisses me off. I was hopeful that the addon purge would lead to a dialing back of boss design to level I could enjoy again, I did Lura once and was like "Ok fuck this noise" I have no done a raid since.
>>581745683You fucking retards genuinely need to piss off forever.
>>581745765Get off my server parasite.
>>581745683Forever already exists, we don't need two. They should keep a lobbygame maze sim version of the game because tons of people play that instead of classic.
>>581745927Well the lobbygame sim is actively dying as we speak so no, "we" definitely don't need it. Nobody does, actually.
Will it kill?
the Only redeeming quality of M+ is that it is its own little world, If you don't enjoy it you can safely, completely ignore it. There are literally no other systems that pass through it and require you to participate.The only thing actually NEEDED regarding M+ is some sort of firewall to containe the M+ gigaspergery inside of M+, cus it leaks out and contaminates other more chill more fun forms of content. If I never had to deal with M+trannies spazzing out at me in level 30 5 man dungeons I could and would just completely ignore its existence.
>>581745672Are you retarded? Forever doesn't have pvp or rp servers
"wow is DEAD" just doesn't hit after the 300th time man
>>581746374yes it does dipass read the fucking slides.pay fucking attention you ignorant fucking tourist rat.PvEPvPRPHardcore(Later)>ACKSHULLYActually kill yourself.
>>581745395just call them groomers taking advantage of lax moderation to push their shit on people because that's what they are.were probably about to get another 50+ posts of shit by the same kind of mental case here in this thread. sits here and refreshes constantly and has some erp garbage to spew within minutes of comments.
>>581746136How do you know it's dying? You got any numbers to back that up, preferably compared to other expansions' x.1 patch participation rates?You don't stand to gain anything from removing retail's gameplay loop. People will simply leave and play Fellowship. Then Blizzard will get less money to spend on developing the game, which will lead to Microslop killing the company.
>>581746335M+ affects class design and balancing, anon
>>581746652>People will simply leave and play Fellowship.AHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING m8 KILLED MEGOD DAMN THATS A GOOD ONEWEW LADYou can't just let fly like that some of us have nervous conditions and stuff man
>>581746964yeah but thats true of literally all content, something or other is always fucking up class design thats not a problem unique to M+
>>581747005>no argumentsI accept your concession.
>>581745672I'm playing on RP for sure. I like being loreful and avoiding streamer filth is just a bonus.
>>581747205>fellowship dev giving interview in a dress dot jaypeg
hmmsounds like something blizzard would doi bet that game is awesome
>>581747303>I like being lorefulObviously this also. I just wanna make sure those of us who actually like wow are on the same page and able to play together. To me as a Moonguard Enjoyer RP seems the obvious and only reasonable choice, given the state of the playerbase.RP servers stigma does legit seem to be a form of armor against all the things rotting MMOs, except for like abrasive faggotry/hypersensitive drama seekers.
>need outta nowhere on a non-upgrade I thought we were among whites
>>581747303There will be streamer filth on RP. Not as many but you'll get a guaranteed Barny and his army of troons farming Scarab Lord for him.
>>581747534the dev in question was a zero effort "Woman"(Male) with a beard in makeup. Even Blizzard is not so far gone. Its CRAZY that they managed to out-faggot Blizzafornia
What is is about season 2 that is making people log in so much less then season 1? Season 1 I could at least get a mythic + group going every day. Shit now people are only logging in for the raid.It doesn't feel like a worse season, but the numbers don't lie. I actually think I like the coiled isle more then the void and the vaults are certainly better then nigtal.
I kinda like Crendor. He seems ok. He plays on WRA and will be on Rp Forever he says.
>>581747986because they killed the m+ loot they fucked all the loot s3 will be the same unless they fix shit
>>581747862>the dev in question was a zero effort "Woman"(Male) with a beard in makeup. Even Blizzard is not so far gonethey literally didyou are a moronyou don't play or keep up with the game for anything than shit posting purposesgo post in another general
>>581747986>>581748087also I think a bunch of spergoids got suspended for RMTing/Boosting trying to get the 1% mount.Blizz made a couple posts early season about banning ALL forms of organized boosting groups and people clearly just fucking ignored it all season.
>>581745283Oh boy!
>>581748225nah the 1% boost was pretty small overallt. booster
>>581747986All you have to do is get 3 slots from world content for a reroll because rerolls are more worth it than taking M+ vault loot. If you have BiS loot in a dungeon you roll it, meaning you do that dungeon once a week.They removed the 8 dungeon RNG hamster wheel and these are the effects. +10s are full of alts and +18s are full of mongoloids who are pushing way too early for it to matter.
WoW: Furries Never
both versions of wow are going to end up dying lol
>>581747986Maze+ killed the rest of the game. Dont cater to mazies, the game simply dies now. Sad but true.
>>581748973retard
>>581748707>stands in your path
>>581748087>>581748572>>581748973Probably right. I was enjoying doing mythic + this season, but I cannot get a 5 man team together for it. Pugging mythic + is aids, so now I too feel I have no desire to log in. You really need to play with the same guys consistently. If a pug does some dumb shit and learns from their mistakes it doesn't matter. You will never see them again. Even when you absolutely obliterate the timer because you rolled a nat 20 on the group finder no one wants to stay grouped and do more. Believe me I try. You would be lucky if one party member wants to stay grouped. You just don't build any connection to the players in your group cause you can't talk at all or you waste time. Only time its worth typing is if someone is being an idiot and correcting them will save more time on deaths then not. That just hurts feelings.
>>581749375God I wish that were me.
>>581749375Id like tauren if they were minotaurs with head atop shoulders.however, that its not a tauren, since his head is not mounted directly to the front of his pecs.
>>581749375I don't understand how furries can use these things. It looks like I would melt inside one of those unless it is really cold.
>Decide to give Forever a try out>Roll up Forsaken Paladin>3 quests in get a quest to heal Deathguard with the holy light.Couldn't they have done, idk. Something like injured Humans, or some Horde races for better immersion on this quest?
>>581749375Honestly its kind of a base humiliation ritual that blizzard is making furfags play literal stinky cows in 5ever, and not giving them some sort of consolation prize furfaggot race.Like banished to the horde, banished to the farthest most remote corner of the world, told to go eat grass and stop acting like anyone likes them.Back of the bus furfags, even the devs clearly hate you.
>>581749594I hate the tauren model so much for this. I wish they had normal heads so transmog didn't look like complete garbage on them. I almost always make mine wear a hat or glasses.
Are pugs getting the first VA boss on mythic yet?
>>581749809>nudevs who made undead paladins know the lore at all.I dont care enough to pitch a fit about it, but its obviously the product of some lorelet retards.
>>581744316Love wowg anons!!!
>want to play sex elf>they can't be any of the classes I want to playHow did they give them the worst class selection?
truthnuke
>>581749809Of course they know, they made a whole new WC3 campaign to justify putting them in the game
>>581750421>2k viewers
>>581749953Yes
>>581749809Forsaken paladins were done solely for the purpose of subversion of expectations + enough retards whined about it. The lore stopped mattering about anything a long time ago.The faggot who made Sir Zeliek should be beaten to death if he already hasn't been.
>>581750520>popular = good
>>581749809>>581749996>>581750552hispanicbros...
Still thinking about that blizzcon bundaDoes heroic ulatek have a third heart phase? If not then oof.
>>581750714still thinking about elf women
>>581750714You get one in 1st phase, one after intermission and one at the very end on the last platform.
>>581750714>Anduin tattoo
pretty based desu ne
>>581751715I doubt anyone will give a shit
>>581751715heh
>>581751381Human boys are BUILT for Elf women
>>581751715
>>581751715I don't get it
>>581753065Yes, that's the joke because Sky Elves never existed before. You used your brain and figured it out.
Blizzdrones actually be like "YES CLASSICBROS WE'RE GOING HOME WITH THIS MADE UP NEW FLAVOR OF ELVES FOR THE PRICE OF 29.99" completely unironically
>>581752440yeah the game has long been overflowing with similar smug retards distancing and crowning themselves with some unapproachable gimmick or statement.>>581753065me on the left>>581753080basically act insufferable and 70 IQ droolers will act like it's cool>>581753404only it's not a joke it's another selfish nigger making people mad. so fucking epic, amirite bros? everywhere should just be like my 4chan!
>>581753591they look bootleg as hell too
>>581753404Who is this nigger?
>>581751715That's about average for MG.
>>581753660Mad retard
>>581753835you think they look bad? wait until you see the /dance
how long until the "I'm gonna make the 7 mil now" crowd stops shitting up decor and everything else?
>>581754034They had to give them something different because High Elves will have the Napoleon Dynamite/Britney Spears ones
give belves windswept hairstyle, feathers and tattoos thanks
>>581754042people are trying to exit the decor market before 12.1.5>>581754218those skyfags are already tagged as retail bro
>>581754264don't actually want to be a skyfagi want to be a belffagwith tattoos feathers and the windswept hairstyle
retoiletthe fuckery they did to hunters pains me so bad, every hunter spec looks so dogshitbm shoots boars at people, MM barely even has any visuals half the time, survival is melee mixed with intermittently throwing bombs and shooting a shotgunhorrible horrible class identity design
>>581754562you have to cope like the helfcucks and play the skyfag
>>581754621>MM barely even has any visuals half the timewhat visuals do you want from a class whose entire fantasy is shooting a gun or a bow
femworg chowdown
>>581754676you're almost certainly right, unfortunately
>>581754771hunter used to have all these cool differently colored arrows, aimed shot used to look cooler, cobra shot used to replace steady shot (not sure how many expansions this was the case but I member)MM looks like it's auto attacking half the time, explosive arrow barely has fiery effects in it and has a huge cooldown so you barely see it, aimed shot looks like an auto attack, arcane shot is cool but with how you use instantly after aimed shot both kind of merge together and it's barely visiblethe only skill with any visuals is rapid fire
>>581754771also having the spec revolve around these huge casts of aimed shot is even worse because half the time you're not even shooting
>>581744619make Xal'athat x Player real, have the power of cock correct the voidbratalso make better delves, the Venomfall Deeps was pretty fun
I need your opinion on this /wowg/. Do worgen keep their knotted cocks when they revert back to human form?
>>581755296obviously fucking not, what a dumb question
>>581755296no?they revert, nigga
>>581754967Who gobbled wieners better?
So glad I switched to ff14 when the WoW refugee stuff happened. You guys tried to bait me back in dragonflight and would raid our threads all the time with that shit lol.
>>581755296Do they keep their snouts? Pointy ears? Fur?The answer is obvious.
>>581755525>would raid our threads all the time with that shitThe same people raid both threads you retard.
>>581755525I stopped playing XIV because I got fed up with the bad job changes (I played BLM and yoshitpiss made it lame, my second main was bard and the 8.0 showcase for bard guts it as well, so...) and also with the spell effects... idk how to explain but a lot of the visuals are too korean for me, like flashing lights
>>581755525didn't read you can stay if you post more feline whores
>>581755525lil bro is so far behind the shitposting meta he is still posting ff shit lmao
>>581755414Filled with wieners.
>>581754771Like here peep old surv out (I miss it every day)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5LRbzsrVKgConstant barrage of differently colored arrowsMM now sits there half the time, BM shoots good but it also flails its arms around half the time because of kill command, and surv now is just gayAngy
YEP WoW is dead it even has dead game replies.
YEP FFXIV is dead it even has avatarfags.
>>581756561>avatarfagsdo NOT open /wowg/
>>581756620huh?
>p*ootoilet died
>foreskin died
>is Sargeras the only one who can come remove the sword?>I don't wanna spoil who or what is necessary to remove the sword, I can promise that we're gonna be dealing with that sword, but I wanna make sure you're all... PREPARED, for when that happensIllidan kino will be back for TLT.
>>581758470Metzen already spoiled that when he did a sit-down interview about the Worlosoul Saga like a year or two ago
>>581745683>remove all content >there you go, saved?!?!?
>>581758470removing the sword sound like a terrible idea
Guys, Forever has me in its grip. How do I break free?
>>581759335play it for another week and you'll be so bored you're willing to go out and get a job
Kek there's a war going on between retail and forever players about tagging
>>581759479To be fair gingi is right, if you're ok with retail spells, hyper spawn and hd models you should be ok with shared mobs
>asmongold got unmazed before i did...sighanyone on EU wants to run keys?
>>581759479there shouldn't be but retards(classhits) have a voice unfortunately >>581732401
>>581759640Did that guy ever run keys though? I thought his friends just carried him in raids
I have literally never done a single Mythic dungeon and never will
>>581759713he got the portals and title every season before drifting away
Can i finish all expansions in one single month of subscription?Also what happens after it ends? I can't log into my high level characters anymore?
>gingi calling all forever keks retardedBAYSEDremembers be how he called naguura good for a female wow player
>>581759845Yes you will not be able to login.
>>581759915>remembers be how he called naguura good for a female wow playerwish I could say the same about him
>>581759618If there is anything that retail actually got right with changes it's that. And that's where these spergs wanna draw their line. FuckinLOL
>>581759618I agree, classic players are suggesting hyperspawns but that seems worse solution. Blizzard willing to die in weird hills like this to make nochange andys happy is going to kill this game for a large part of the playerbase.
>>581759618no real people wanted any of those things. we wanted the retoilet tourists to fuck off and die already, not poison the game all over again with their worthless preferences.
i checked out from retail but i love to watch to see already in the beta why classic plus was a bad ideathis shit will only get worse just wait when "streamers" will give their feedback when they start to raidlog and see that its bad for their stream suggesting a bunch of retaarded changes LMAO>>581760051They are over 100 retail changes in forever already
>>581760008yeah hyper spawns sucks compared to sharing>>581760051>we wanted the retoilet tourists to fuck off and die alreadywell too bad because forever is 100% made for them
>>581760157good retail is a better game
>>581760209>retail is a better game then a cash grab of recycled assets from retail and recylced assets from vanilla made of streamer feedbacknot a feat
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>581759845Depends what you mean by finish. Get loremaster for literally everything at max level? Possibly, but you'd have to play 16 hours a day.
>>581758787Kiro's drunkest soldier
I'm literally a brewmaster irl>fat>retarded>alcoholic
>>581755926Praytell what is the shitposting meta? Complaining about Forever?
>>581759640>unmazedIs this zoomer speak for disillusioned?
what compels players that pick rogue and hunter to never press their tricks/md, pull threat on the gather and die??why is this so common??
So how are they going to spin the lore so that Forever is the "true" timeline?
>>581761530I play trickster because of perma md
>>581761551They make a Warcraft 4 that continues after the events of Forever and not Retail.That's quite literally all it takes for Blizzard to decide what's canon and isn't canon going forward. Do future projects follow Forever's lore or Retails.
subtle
I wanna play a different class but it bothers me to main a character I made 10 minutes ago instead of the one I cleared every expansion on.
What are good professions for a dwarf shaman
>>581761646>play rogue since forever>still trick every pull even with trickster
>>581761907you're already behind on the season so idk why you can't just play an alt
>>581761723There's a non zero chance that whenever wow gets that anime they're trying to push for with Netflix, it'll be based on Forever. And that's when retail will start having actual problems.
>>581761258>he doesnt knowyou are the zoomer here
I have doomjeet fatigue.
>>581761907The way I found to trick my brain is saying I am playing my main alt and install pretty reps to make it seem like this character has ton of rep.
>>581761993That's not the point
>>581762129WOW IS FUCKING DOOOOOOOMED(is still paying for a subscription to play WoW Minus)
>>581762543just to be clear, you do know that if people sub and only play Forever than that's not good for the future of Retail right?I don't think that will be the case but it's a fair worry for Retail players.
>>581725019>retard didn't use the totem
not a single retail player is worried stop with the concern trolling lmao
Blizzcon kinda looked fun bros
sell me on hunter, I wanna play some ranged
>>581763125Cons are fun.>>581763171I like surv but tip of the spear sucks
>>581762985Blizzcon was not a good sign desuAlso the fact they couldn't say ANYTHING about TLT due to spoilers even though nobody cares about the story and you could announce features that are not connected to the story.
>>581750714Do you have this image, but holding a White Monster can instead?
>>581763171arcane
>>581744619make the world feel like a world again. stop segmenting players off to new cities in every new expac
>>581744619You really need to go back to the two faction system. The fundamental issue with wow currently is twofold. People think the story sucks ass and we've more or less been stuck with Legion era systems for 10 years now.Funnelling both factions into a singular storyline because of some perceived notion that everyone totally wants to play with their friends on the opposite faction keeps biting them in the ass. Alliance fans are never happy seeing one member of the Horde show up and Horde fans are clearly fed up of playing Alliance babysitter since SL, this has done nothing but make your World of Warcraft feel small.Blizzard will continue to do this big talk about how we wanna bring the world back into world of warcraft but fail to see the reason the world feels so dead now is because it does nothing but focus on one Alliance family and has for years now. The World of Warcraft needs both factions actively doing shit to feel like a world that's alive, not the handful of super OP faction leaders (who are all on blue team) handling every problem,.
>>581744619Take the game design of Forever and add it to retail. You're welcome.
>>581764204they already did, it's called Forever and it seems successful so far
>>581763125Been four times and it was a blast each time. You get to see/go through only the cool parts of LA, attend a con about games you love, see cool new stuff and get to play it, talk to devs, watch the tournaments with your friends, and meet new people who enjoy the same thing you do. More eye candy than you'd think yea. Mostly mids and fatties yea but 8s and 9s are not unicorns either. Already making plans to go in a year or 2 to meet with first-timers.
>>581764012Ion's cope about not having the recourses to do a two faction storyline again is so funny. They somehow have the recourses to make sure the Night Elves get a dedicated plot every expansion, but can't give the Horde one
>>581764261Look, all I'm saying is this: the gear treadmill loses against horizontal progression game design. I care about this character because I've already spent hours doing difficult quests, managing my limited sources, and playing with others because we all need to work together to succeed.On retail, my characters are the only thing that matters. On Forever, Azeroth is the only thing that matters.
>>581764813this nigga talking like a ChatGPT generated blizzard promotional tweet
>>581762143All nelfies do this
>>581764012>Funnelling both factions into a singular storyline because of some perceived notion that everyone totally wants to play with their friends on the opposite faction keeps biting them in the ass.nah thats just bullshit ion pulled out of his assits cheaper to do it like this, thats the end of itthey literally fucking HAD to implement crossfaction because the racials were so one sided for a decade that all the serious players were on horde and it came to a head in shadowlands when the horde LFG for M+, raids, and arena had 4x the listings as the alliance LFG at any given time of daythat was a complete fucking necessity
>Tried out the Forever beta>Quit after fuckin around>Tried going back to retail>Retail need to update>Update won't start because "Forever is running" even though it's not>Can't play retail anymoreThis is what they'll do after TLT to us all
>>581765392These are gonna be our MK Ninjas.
>>581765654You're stuck forever...
>>581765654restart your pc
>>581765575anon thinks the team that can barely pump out 4 zones in one expac for both factions could do it for two factions
>>581765654I am able to run Forever and retail at the same time, only Classic + retail has a restriction for me.
>>581765828we're not talking about zones, clown
>>581765828Then you simply fire the team and hire people who can. There's plenty of writers at blizz who wanna work with Horde races in mind, see all the side quests they occasionally throw Horde players a bone with. But the main team is hyper focused on making sure the Alliance Elves get their mandated storylines on top of the main plot forward instead of writing a Horde and Alliance POV for the main plot.
>wowg desperately trying to find bad things to say about Forever so they just keep bringing up the blue elves
>>581765863probably because its the beta, idk why they have a restriction on that in the first place, they literally demand you have two subs if you want to have both programs running at once
This literal nobody is right, Classic "endgame" is garbage and Forever won't change that.
Retail need to bring over the choice to have old animations with the new modelsDwarves are so much better now
>>581754042besides the usual post raid mat crash it feels like nothing has really changed. wow economy is all bouncing off a subhuman floor because of so many people doing cross realm dumping of anything with a decent sell rate, among many other problems. blizzard only responds to and makes the pricing revolve around optimizing the guys who openly tell you they are just buying tokens playing until they burnout on instanced bullshit for the season.decor is a whole different problem where these people with a single player mindset have got way too much sway here and apparently on forever as well. the kind of people who think they need to be able to farm cloth to replace all their alts bags in 30 minutes or there's something wrong. there's no grind and they erase both the economy and any minor sense of accomplishment that brings you into the world for a moment. maybe a few recipes with a few very rare things were out of line but there's really nothing wrong with things having some "i did that" weight beyond being another ah run for mats.
>>581766105Can't you just use the exe and open both? Or do you get dced?
>>581766160I came back to retail because I hate how braindead classic dungeons are mechanically. the "hardest" part of classic dungeons are other players. retail actually requires a brain especially high end raiding
>>581766160A lot of words to misunderstand the core argument that people have against Retail.It's not that people think you just click a button and wait for your M+ dungeon to start, it's that the entire world is just a lobby while you wait for endgame content and then you jump in a teleport and play. The entire game is built to funnel you as quickly as possible to M+/Raid with a bunch of garbage events in between.People also DON'T think that endgame content in Retail is easy, that's why they're going to Classic/Forever. What the fuck is this retard on
>>581759618nah if you're a what about my 1 drop slippery slope precedent kind of nigger you aren't even capable of having an honest discussion about anything.
>>581766607>the entire world is just a lobby while you wait for endgame content and then you jump in a teleport and playSo just like Classic then
>>581766035i love the skyelvesgive me their fucking customization options for my belves I'm shitting on it because it has no content, no world buffs, nothing to do after you clear your piss easy raid for the week, and because i literally cannot stand classhits and the tourists who pretend like this game is the second coming of Jesus Christi'm not talking to you, you fucking faggotbut to anyone else reading my post, i don't think you understand just how subhuman classhits actually arethey are the lowest scum imaginable i would trust homeless drug addicts more than id ever trust a fucking classhitpic rel is every classhit player, every single one, not just vanilla fagsanyone actually decrying retail as the devil falls under this umbrella
>>581766740Skyborne "customization" is literally just Void Elf and Blood Elf mashed into one with some Dwarf feathers slapped on them
>>581766160
>>581766607>People also DON'T think that endgame content in Retail is easy, that's why they're going to Classic/Forever.Classic players say mc is harder than retail tho
>>581766840ya give it updon't caregive me
>>581766726yeah except you are in the world questing and having adventures for 60+ hours instead of 6.Then you have to find a group, organize to travel to the dungeon/raid and then finally do the content. It's more annoying but it help the socializing aspect.
>>581766740silence craptoilet, the men are speaking. and stop screenshotting your own posts.
>>581766378>the kind of people who think they need to be able to farm cloth to replace all their alts bags in 30 minutes or there's something wrongYou can get bags and broken gear really fast with professions in forever, the new recipes are insane op and cheap.
>>5817668695 retards on a stream says that, nobody really thinks that anon, don't be a faggot
>>581766869
>>581766740>som>thrived
>muh retail rushes everything until max level, killing all of the funbut does retail really? you can still read the quests and do them normally, they don't force you to rush or seek meta or get bis gear for no reason
>>581766740>anyone actually decrying retail as the devil falls under this umbrellaInsane take, Retail was in a horrible state before Forever was announced.
Truth of the matter is that the thing classic players hate the most about retail is that retail mostly respects your time. It understands you want about a few days to mess around with your class before the season starts so gives you a levelling experience that can take you anywhere between 6 hours to multiple days depending how face (you) actually want to go.What Classic players are complaining about is that retail doesn't keep you in a singular zone for what feels like 3 days
>>581767149war(craft). war(craft) never changes.
>>581767242I used ground mounts only and leveled in cata zones as Alliance as I hadn't ever leveled there before. It took about 10 hours and I did 3 zones and 2 dungeons. I had a lot of fun but I wish I could have done a bit more before being funneled into Midnight. Midnight then is just a clusterfuck of blue quests once you're 90 and half of these are pointless. Then you do current patch content and get pushed to high ilvl almost immediately. Theres no feeling of progression until M+ /Raid time.
>>581767482>the thing classic players hate the most about retail is thatThey hate that you can't clear the whole game just spamming Frost-bolt and then pretending you are some sort of hardcore raider.
i liked that cata broke the fucking map. something at least happened.
>>581767775I expected a second cataclysm after sargeras stabbed sneedzeoth
>>581767671ass must be sore after all that crapping, eh craptoilet?
>>581767671Actually I just equip a frost damage wand then go afk It looks like I'm spamming Frostbolt but I'm masturbating to elf women instead
>>581767482do you even consider retail a mmorpg anymore
Blizzard cannibalizing their own playerbase by releasing a competing product will just cause them to bleed more players in the long run. They will lose valuable retail whales who will lose confidence in retail's immortality.They will gain new fomo players who don't know what they want will fight amongst themselves and quit in frustration months into the experiment. They'll ultimately shoot themselves in the foot and leave a rare opening for an actual WoW killer.
>>581766160Honestly I just hate how Retail is a seasonal game and my gear is outdated and reset every 6 months. I don't actually mind m+. To be honest, I never liked the Diablo seasonal system and never did. Diablo fucking sucks. And they copy pasted Diablo 3 Rifts of all things. If I wanted a lobby game, I'd rather just play league. At least the map rarely changes and I don't have to spend time learning new trash mob mechanics and bosses. Its like studying for a test
>>581768296It works in Diablo because you start over entirely with a new character. It doesn't work in WoW because your character is still there next season and is now just magically behind
>>581768182The Classic/retail playerbase merging is going to be such a fucking bloodbath and I'm all here for it. I don't even plan on playing forever but I'm looking forward to witnessing the shitshow when the classic-fags won't get everything their way, they are already shitting themselves over new weapon models and HD textures.
>>581768182>Blizzard cannibalizing their own playerbaseNah both games are seasonals and people will play both but yes no one is going to buy the 7m mount now.
>>581768442I'm gonna buy it, started at 200k when they announced it
>>581768384the best part of this is Forever killed Classic servers almost immediately after announcement
anybody saying retail or forever will die need to stop. retail will always have its players and so will forever. I already quit forever after reaching 20 because its too slow paced and easy for me and im enjoying my time with retail even more now after playing that. >>581768296I do wish they would make gear not feel useless every 6 months but they also have to give a reason for you to do the new dungeons/raids
>>581768605Ok some will but they are going to lose so many sales over this
I have become a Forever doomer after this tagging fiasco. If they can't tolerate such a small change Blizzard is going to step on their toes at some point, even the og devs would.
>>581768649Classic was dead even before that but it was the killing blow, my friend can't even fill his tbc raids anymore.
>>581768649lmao, is that why I keep seeing screencaps of these faggots fighting for their lives online? My feeds have been filled with these shitters trying to claim Forever as their own, already pushing the retarded *no changes* narrative. It's so pathetic to witness. All that they actually want is for Classic to become a seasonal game that wipes the servers once a year and makes you start over again. But since they can't have that they are doing everything they can to make forever just as shitty as classic.
>>581768182I think you're wrong, most of the world of warcraft player base that classic or other expansions appeal to don't play retailI think you're making an argument in bad faith to defend retail's lacking popularity
>>581768808Blizzard shouldn't give those faggots an inch. They already have Classic, they can stay there if they wanna wait more than 30 minutes in order to get the kill credits for 8-troggs
>>581768960Can't really blame them desu retail lite killed all their dreams and hopes.
>>581768808>Blue Elves that never existed before now? a-ok>Shared tags with other players on the same faction? UNFORGIVABLE GO BACK TO YOUR RETAIL GARBAGE NO CHANGES
>>581769297Blue elves are fine because the only races that matter in fantasy are elves and humans. Thats why 90% of normies only play human,night elf or blood elf. Other races are too ugly and dont matter
>>581769439Hey I play plenty of non-elf races, like Human, Dwarf, Gnome, and Draenei.
>fast forward to about a year after Forever releases>faction demographics posted>ALLIANCE>30% human>25% night elf>25% sky elf>13% dwarf>7% gnome>HORDE>55% sky elf>20% orc>17% undead>5% troll>3% taurenHow will the no-shoe niggers live it down?
>>581769629>1 year in and no more raceswow they really had no plan for this game
>>581769629Going to screencap this lmao nelfs are the most popular alliance race faggot and sky elves will mog humans as well with helf larpers and racialfags
>>581769740do you promise to kill yourself when a year from now Both Retail and Forever are alive and well?
>>581769806>helf larpersyeah until they add the real thing and High Elf enjoyers abandon Sky Elves in droves
What does wowg think of male human paladins?
Retoilets hate forever or any rendition of WoW that isn't their furfaggot second life retail sim, but they are still so addicted, they will end up playing it so they don't end up missing out on anythingI don't think I've ever encountered anything in life as pathetic and broken as a retoilet
>>581770041lmao this faggot is triggerd in the year 2026
>>581770041and classjeets cant play a single raid with more than mechanic and saying its too hard. everyone who claims retoilet to be too easy should be required to post their raid achievements
>>581770041I have. It's classic cucks.
>>581768154it still fits the definition, yes
>>581770041>>581770314so this is all wowg is going to be now heyWe need to ban discussing Forever just like we did with OG
>>581770494This is all wowg was when classic was announced
>>581770494post raid achievements
>>581768680>forever will dieno it won't eosbut i don't think you've looked at the roadmap if you don't think its going to be a ghost town ~2 months in
Anyone got banned for meme names today?
night elves and draenei are the objectively best races because hot girl good
>>581770494Its Ions fault for having nothing to say and then saying some copium about not wanting to have spoilers
>>581770628most people wouldn't have even finished leveling their characters two month in
>>581770628I never said it would die, read it again but I do expect to see a dip once the initial hype is over. a lot of players quit classic before reaching 60 because they get burnt out from leveling
>>581770680No I don't do that cringe shit. I use my real name when I self insert in WoW
>Contract: Don't use nigger faggot as a name>Nigger faggot>Banned>:O
>>581770014Objectively the best and most heterosexual thing you can do in WoW. Maybe only one or two gay furries ITT disagree.
>>581770494>We need to ban discussing Forever just like we did with OGwe didn't do shitsomeone got fed up with the bullshit and went to irc and begged to have the thread cleaned up
>>581770916The west has fallen millions must die
>>581770997brown hands typed this post.
>>581770494I actually think we should have /wowg/ and /wowf/ merge as one thread. Forever is classic content but its CLEARLY aimed at the retail playerbase and is going to have ahuge overlap in players. Keep classic scream locked in their /vm/ thread but I see Forever as a companion to and extension of retail wow. Like we already have guilds of /wowg/ players making parallel guilds in Forever. The only people dooming about forever are generic wow doomers and no changes spergs, everyone else is looking at it positively.The reason cg and psg got banished was because of their shitty antagonistic attitudes and express hatred of retail wow.Thats not going to be the case here I think.I suggest /wowgf/ simply be the new thread, Forever.
>>581771493fuck no I dont want to share community with anons who cant stop talking about how shit retail is when its objectively the best version of the game
>>581771493>Thats not going to be the case here I think.anon.. i...
>>581771493Yeah I'll probably play Forever in November. Bro no ones gonna be pushing keys near the end of the patch anyways so who gives a flying fuck? Gear is gonna reset in January again for Season 3
>>581771572>>581771591your getting psyopped by people who dont play either and simply hate wow and antagonisze anyone who enjoys it.those same people are over in the Forever thread shrieking about how forever is shit and doomed and retail will kill it.
>>581769867why would a retail player kill himself over retail being alive
ah yeas surely the 3rd attempt at re-re-releasing classic wow will work this time for sure after the players think they want it.
>>581771693Only 1% will and .1 will yeah
Forever is the "Classic WoW" that reatail wow players wanted 8 years ago.It is not a loss for us it is another thing for us to do. It is an expansion of our gameplay options and a direct repudiation of "Old good No Changes" classic WoW.Stop looking at forever as a bad thing or a threat, it is our victory over the classic spergs, blizz agree with us that no changes is a dead end and that classic needs to take notes from retail to be a good game.
>>581771982I see we're at the denial stage, then.
>>581771982>that classic needs to take notes from retail to be a good game.>checks notesRELEASE THE BLUE BLOOD ELVES
>>581772158METZEN KINO
>>581771734I would agree if it was just 4chan but even the official forums are a battleground rn
retail is the White mans game by the way. classic attracts a lot of browns because its free and browns cant afford to play retail
I still can't believe they had nothing to show off at blizzcon for retail, that was actually unbelievable.
>>581771493absolutely notthats something that could be considered if the thread wasn't the fastest thread on the website >The reason cg and psg got banishedyou have no authority over where they post, they have literally never been actioned ever like the zivraiders, and considering i'm also a long time ceegee poster, i can tell you with certainty 70% of that thread has been in this one for the last year. Not to mention all the faggots in the wowf thread are blizzard shills and cocksuckers they are people that do the same shit you're blaming on ceegeehaving dissenting opinions is vital in any space you don't want to turn into a fucking echo chamber, moron
>>581772192You think the shitty forums are free from shitposting? People literally paid $60 to shitpost in the fucking beta.
>>581764813Just saying some random ass words at this point huh?
lmao challenge me on the damage meters, PUSSY
>>581772439It's interesting that we're all squabbling over 'Forever' when this was the most disheartening part for me. Even a small peak at the new class or some character redesigns. A small hint at what we could be doing/going. Absolutely nobody cares for the story right now so not showing anything apart from an abysmal M+ dungeon selection felt awful. Especially when Forever was also announced.
>>581773009They clearly either aren't ready to show it or simply want Forever to be the "main character" of the IP for the time being, perhaps indefinitely. It is what it is.
>>581773241Taliesin was talking about how the Retail area was really excited before it started and were completely dejected afterwards. Tali even talks about how angry/sad he was lmao. There was literally booing from the audience during the Retail section.
>>581773241Nothing say main character like 6 months of no content lmao
>>581770916thanks for taking a break from complaining about AI and fascism to repost your nigger tier meme again for the trillion dollar corporation. you really owned the chuds with that one.
At some point retail and classic fags will have to stop trying to put it in each other's ass and realize they both have legitimate criticisms of each game type. It's a god damn shame the teal hair dye in Irvine has made them so retarded they couldn't make something decent after years of everyone whining about what they wanted and shutting down 42 pservers with original content.
>>581773505Tracks, majority of those people went to Blizzcon this year for big retail news and something to pop off at for Last Titan, like the Illidan teaser years ago.Retail had the second worst showing of the entire con and would've been the worse if the D4 announcement wasn't them announcing they're killing D4 after pumping out one last class in Amazon
>>581772439>where are my 8 dungeons, 4 zones, and one raid? wheeeeeeeeeerrrrrree bliiiiiizaaaaardcome the fuck on bro. even when they show something it's actually nothing.
>>581773631Thank you! I'm going to patrol sw and report all the trannoids with meme names.
>>581773735>At some point retail and classic fags will have to stop trying to put it in each other's ass and realize they both have legitimate criticisms of each game type.literally nobody who plays retail gives a fuck or does this, it's nearly 100% autistic vanilla autists screeching about retail (or pservers they dislike) like it fucked their mothers and wives. Even on 4chan it's just a bunch of tribal screamers acting like disabled children.
>I finally get GM, highest rated I have ever been>Capping my pvp accomplishments de facto>Highest rated I will ever be in all likelihood.>A month later wows retirement home mode for ancient millennial boomers is announced.This game really does revolve around me.
>>581773886retail players also arent checking these threads to defend their game, we're actually playing, raiding or doing 100 other things. classjeets talk more shit about retail than they are actually playing their game or theyre posting while playing their game (says a lot about how easy their game is).also classjeets acting like they wont be the first ones to login when The Last Titan innevitably comes out. Asmon, Soda, etc. all these classjeets all bought the biggest package and were on Midnight day of release despite their annoying bitching about how bad retail is
>>581772439>>581773009Patch just came out and is still ongoing for most people. 12.2 isnt even on ptr yet, barely even announced.Of course they didnt have anything to say about TLT, its still 10 months away at least and they dont want to totally overshadow 12.2 by talking about it.Forever was this blizzcons headliner, because .2 patch sure as shit isnt a headliner.
>>581774165They barely talked about 12.2 anonAnd the shit they did talk about was eyerollingly boring (and if we include M+ actually bad)Retail didn't need a headline but it did need some actual news.
>>581773962nice grats bro, I gotta do that one still
retoilet be like braaaap
No one even mentioned the best announcement from blizzcon, they are revamping the rewards with a renown tier structure and ALL pvp will progress your character
>>581774491you ain't kidding on that lineup
Why did they decide to make 2 seasons of m+ complete shit?
>>581774491What you didn't like the soijak talking about their "roguelike" limited time mode
>>581775339Because you HAVE to raid
>>581775351I forgot that even happened because I don't even consider it Retail lmao
>>581775216>maisara, underrot, uldamanThis makes me not even want to play 12.2
The only update I want is for Valeera and Sylvanas and so on to get their midriffs back. And Khadgar to get out of his cuck chair.
>>581775529What are you talking about? Valeera never had a midriff.
>>581775529Khadgar is only still in the wheelchair because of that sexy High Elf in the same room as him in the Arcantina
wow replaced ace online for me and desu it was never as good and ended up being more expensive anywayif i could ritualistically sacrifice worlo to give ace online a second chance at life even after 10k+ hours of worlo i think i would
Have you thanked your DPS today?
Alright faggots I need you to be real for a second. No tribalism, I'm talking strictly from a business & development perspective:If Blizzard put in the resources to make ogres playable in Forever, does it make sense to also reuse those assets to make them playable in Modern/Retail/however you want to fucking call it?>ogres are too ugly they would NEVER add themIf this hypothetical is too unbelievable for you replace "ogre" with any other believable yet currently unplayable humanoid race in your head.>well of course they would sell them for both at the same time! it's an easy bundle to sell!Right, it's free money, BUT my issue are that:1. They would of course need to make a separate retail starter zone for them.2. They may need separate voice acting, lore, etc. to justify why these ogres joined given that these are separate timelines. For example, in Forever it could be the Shitfuck Clan joinng, but in Modern it's the Fuckshit Clan, etc.3. Forever has relatively simple gear models, Modern has 20 years of models. Much higher chance gear will look broken/weird on a Modern ogre vs a Forever ogre, necessitating more dev time.4. If they were going to do both it makes sense to release a "buy ogre race now faggot" DLC for both at the same time. With points 1 thru 3 in mind, how the hell do that coordinate that development simultaneously between both teams?
>guaranteed dogshit player: the guild
>>581775812Holy kino
>>581775581I meant Alleria, I can't keep up with all these elves
>>581775339because they want people to do stuff other than just mindless spam M+ because mindless M+ spammers are a toxic, corrosive rot upon the rest of wow.They need to get a bunch of players to stop mazing for a bit so they can then rebuild mazing without 30% of the end game player base throwing a massive pants pissing tantrum that their lobby grind has been disrupted. Like they WANT people to be unhappy with M+ so that when they come in and totally rework it in TLT alpha people cheer for the changes.They want you to HATE m+ by the end of Midnight, because M+ has become hateful rotten tumor upon wow and anyone who isnt a dedicated tunnelvisioned mazerat can see it.
>>581775735Im pretty sure I fucked that femhuman before
>>581775771ogres are fat retarded and ugly, only a tiny fraction of memelords would ever play them. Male KT in wow are an inch from just being ogres and virtually no one plays them either.We all get to play fat retards IRL, no one wants to play one in game.
>>581775771>1Why? Using ogres as you set as example they can just start in orgrimmar >2Not really they just need generic voicelines>3The forever gear is all hd like the retail gear, we already saw the datamining>4The retail team is doing everything anyway because the forever team is super small and green (according to max)
>>581775771I honestly think the thing holding Ogres back at this point is Blizzard having some dumb idea that if they make an Ogre, they'd have to make an Ogre main character to write plots around because a race is only as good as their faction leader.When 99% of Ogre fans would be okay with Rexxar just being the leader and the rep for the face, if they were allowed to show up and do shit.
>>581775771also you're a total newfag there are ogres in the horde and have been since WC2. There was in vanilla wow and still in in cata/retail a village of horde friendly ogres in dustwollaow marsh. The Stonemaul Clan.
>>581775812class in character name is the most offensive part of this
>>581776058>We don't want you to be playing Demonol..uh M+
>>581775216how tf do they pull out two stinker pools in a rowholy shiti hate mt and cavernsi never played under rot at an appropriate key levelalmost positive we had iron docks in sls4i like sanguine depths buts it going to be a theatre rerun where i end up hating it by the endstonecore is awful and i hate uldaman more than mt and cavernsfucking hell
>>581775812Fuck imagine joining and rizzing up all the cute transgirls...
>>581776237>Why? Using ogres as you set as example they can just start in orgrimmar This is the smartest case scenario but as it stands every race now has its own starting area, at least "1-5". For parity I assume they'll have to do at least something.>Not really they just need generic voicelinesI could believe this.>The forever gear is all hd like the retail gear, we already saw the dataminingI'm mostly thinking of in terms of clipping. I don't think it's an issue but it's one Blizzard has commented on in the past.>The retail team is doing everything anyway because the forever team is super small and green (according to max)Interesting, did not know Max's comment on that.Also thank you for somehow being the one literate person to respond.
>>581776495They already announced massive changes to all dungeons like they are removing lost vikings and they will change bosses because of the massive hp pools. After the way they fixed temple and pit of saron they know what they are doing.>>581776586Remember the forever models are the retail models so all gear would work and yes max said he met the team during blizzcon.
>>581775735I did, but they still abused the fuck out of me for not timing this 12.Not like I left a note when forming the group to imply its a group of Australians that are half drunk, having fun and its a 'Relaxed' group at the end of the week to imply its basically just a vault run or anything.Absolute tryhards...
>>581775735Too busy thanking my healer.
>>581776902>australiansThis explains why you're always posting when I'm here. Have you tried out Forever yet? I wanna know how fucked our ping is going to be.
>>581776902see>>581776058
We just had one of the buggiest patches of all time, with the expansion over all feeling like a half-arsed mess where no one actually cares.And why's that? Because Metzen came on stage, said, we're gonna make 3 expansions in a row, we're gonna make recourses for all of it at once! And then Holly turned around and said, wait actually we need you to do all that for Classic as well, Classic+ is the future and you can very much tell they put more effort into finishing shit for Forever this time instead of MIDnight. The Cope Within is that come Last Titan this will go full circle and be where the main retail effort was put out of these 4 expansions while Forever has a subpar year two. But we all know that's not gonna happen
>>581777040Not Trollanon but it ain't too bad from what I can tellWorst part is that they fixed the night time so it actually looks good now so Aussies have to play in the pitch black all day long
>>581777184>Couldn't come with a good pun for Last Titan
>>581777318What can I say. I put as much effort into that post as Blizz put in this trilogy.
>>581777318The Last Expansion is right there
>>581745087in game designed around interaction, yes, it is good, in wow though, no
>>581777040Nah I'm not playing it.Not too interested in the several versions of Classic, this one hasn't really swayed me to wanna bother either.Maybe if I'm insanely bored down the line but until then...
>>581777184Has anyone explained why Metzen didn't show up? Is it because his daughter hates Warcraft
>>581777661he had surgery shortly before
>>581777661Metzen is working on his dnd thingy
>>581777661He's supposedly got back problems and major anxiety that makes the back problems worse. This has been a thing apparently since Legion and partially why he quit the company to begin with, so he doesn't like showing up in public anymore. (Just ignore all the shit with WoD and Titan/Overwatch was the main reason)
I know we hate the game here but I forgot how fun Brewfest can bejust a bunch of people walking around /saying inane conversations for the funny drunken speakfeels like old times
>>581777661He voiced the Forever Gameplay trailer.He didn't show up because he/blizz doesnt wanna use up his hype power on things that dont need it. Forever may be something he's into but it obviously doesnt need him to sell it directly. We'll certainly see him for when 13.0 is announced, Cus thats likely the first point at which the narrative is fully his and were toally free of leftover Danuser slop, since its clear the world sould saga was supposed to be danusers abortion, and they had to spread it out both to keep it from oneshotting WoW, and to buy time for Metzen to reboot retails narrative.
mazegolems are a plague upon worlo but it was blizzard that cultivated themalso the game is managed and created by ai now
>>581775812>xhe is still playing this shi You know wow forever exists right?
Is havoc or devourer easier to play in keys and which pumps harder
>>581778039>Still blaming Danuser for Metzen cutting up 1 single filler expansion and turning it into a trilogyOh no no no
>>581748045What's his character?
>>581778039>Cus thats likely the first point at which the narrative is fully his and were toally free of leftover Danuser slopBut not the writing team as a whole who continues to deliver rancid dogshit.
>>581748045There's a reason out of all the old Crendor, Total Biscuit, Strippen, Dodger, and Jessie crew. Jessie was the only one who's never managed to get married. Crendor carried Cox's career
>>581778205Havoc is better
>>581777792If he has stage fright and back problems, they could have just done a pre recorded video or something. Is he really that embarrassed? Maybe he don't wanna be associated with retail anymore
>>581777184I still can't get over what a fuck up waste of time TWW was>introduces the Haranir... for no reason>Coreway set up like it was going to be important, it wasn't>sets up the Nerubian threat like it's going to be this big deal, City of Threads introduced as a Suramar parallel so people think it's going to be important>completely abandoned after the first patch>introduces the incomprehensible Arathi Empire storyline that goes nowhere and makes no sense >Beladar was made out like it was going to be a big deal, it wasn't, I still don't understand what the point of it was>Anduin's inner turmoil goes nowhere>Faerin introduced as important character, does nothing>Undermine was pretty cool but also felt like a big "hey let's waste this expansion concept on a fucking patch" throwaway, killed Gallywix for seemingly no reason>no fucking idea what Karesh and the Manaforge was supposed to be, just random Sneedolands bullshit out of nowhere>expansion ends where it started, Xalatath doing... stuff and Alleria following her >fast forward to Midnight almost being done and I still don't know who Xalatath is or what she's doing
>>581778389Could have some real bad anxiety I guess, it's been clear people aren't exactly receptive to this trilogy and maybe that's why he doesn't wanna even do a pre-recorded video. He's a dumbass if that's the case cause the man really should've clarified Holly Longdale's statement about him regretting calling it Warcraft himself. People are still hung up on that and rightfully so
>>581778514>it wasn't, I still don't understand what the point of it wasXalnath was trying to merge with azeroth using the beladar
>>581778137I admit it. I use chatgpt to teach me mythic plus now and what are all the important trash mobs to kick and CC in the dungeon. Its just too hard for me now and Im too old
>>581778514>>Beladar was made out like it was going to be a big deal, it wasn't, I still don't understand what the point of it wasUnironic Season of Discovery tie in which went no where because it had 5 behind the scene rewrites until they decided to call it essentially Azerite in SoD which became the excuse for Retail as well
>>581778213Just imagine>Alright we got this cool idea for an expansion where Xal'atath is the big bad>Make it three expansions>Huh>You guys need to think bigger make the Earthen and Haranir neutral>That doesn't make any se->We'll call it the Worldsoul Saga it'll be like WoW's Avengers this is our fistpump moment
you keep posting that troon's toon like its some kind of ownbut that troon's toon is pretty hot ngl
will we get the updated lighting and effects in retail?
>>581778351na looks like it's shit
>>581778514the whole TWW plotline (Xal pitting us against the Nerubians to empower the Dark Heart) is so unimportant that I would fully believe it was supposed to be the first zone story in the original expac before Metzen butted in
>>581778681
>>581778205havoc is easier because you won't fall asleep playing it>>581778514i had a lot of fun playing it desu
>>581778765Honestly it's the funniest thing. All the set up at the second half of Dragonflight was clearly being done with 1 singular expansion in mind to follow it up. Xal'atath, Iridikron surviving the xpack, Tyr, etc etc. Metzen just came in and said no, make it 3 and now we're in this mess. No wonder Danuser quit first chance he saw not to be tied to this mess.
>>581778213The cut up expansion was gonna be 11.0 TWW launch as we played it11.1 or 2 Undermine11.1 or 2 Harandar, Harronir we wuzzing Constantly. Lore rape everywhere. There is an OBVIOUS portal to harandar in the roof of the cavern between Hallowfall and AhjKahet and we first encounter them there.11.2 or 3(now 12.2): Xalaslop at the base of the coreway were about to get11.0 was already virtually done when Danus was ejected and replaced, so we got it as is.Undermine may or may not have been planned as much as it was a literal trash heap it was a well done trash heap which makes me think it was well in production and not actually all that rushed. So it MAY have always been planned to be 11.1 or .2 with the Patch we are about to get panned for 11.3Karesh was obviously a complete asspull.Midnight as we see it now was rushed together to space things out.As was Coiled Isle, an obvious suddenly filler patch.Imagine what would have happened in TWW Had gone Launch>Harandar>Coreway Xalaslop.Even I likely would have checked out that sounds FUCKING TERRIBLE.Like Harandar as an unavoidable patch zone, raid composed entirely of lighbloom "alndust" and and magic negroes?
>>581778889No but really it was part of the retcons the other anon mentioned, she was trying to corrupt azeroth with the essence of galakras but now she is merging with azeroth.
>>581778967What SICK stories do you think Danuser has been cooking up for Fortnite since he joined Tim?
>4 wow versions you can play right now>or was it 5??Blizzard isnt this retarded, right guys???
>>581779202They fired him a few months ago.>>581779348Only forever and retail exist.
>>581778967I could easily see:>Iridikron gives Xalatath the Dark Heart>she uses it to bust into the Worldcore>tries to merge with Azeroth or whatever>Titans go on alert and their big Northrend mecha shows upbeing the original plan and TWW/Midnight being complete filler that was only included to stretch things out. Two full expacs to explain how Xal (the character that can seemingly teleport anywhere at-will) gets into a big cave is ridiculous.
>>581779348Classic is literally over once Forever goes live.Retail for "Serious gamers" and Forever for laid back oldfags.Lots of people will play both, Playing retail for seasonal content and then chlling in the Foreverment Home during downtime.
>>581779202Fortnite got Sonic and Goku. WoW cant compete with that
>>581779487Metzen's mistake was wanting to make a trilogy, although I wouldn't be surprised if a trilogy was an excuse to actually buy time for the devs to do Holly's mandated Classic+ shit.Dragonflight, War Within 1.0 and what ever Last Titan is would've worked fine as a trilogy that felt subpar at times and just acceptable others.The K'aresh and Quel'thalas side quest is what's basically sunk this trilogy. He should've just pitched War Within and Last Titan as a duology and cut everything involving the Windrunners and MIDnight out
>>581779521>Retail for serious gamers>All I do is RP and collect stuff and that's all I've done since Cata now
>>581778828No they don't care about retail anymore since people are just camping group finder for keys
>>581779743mythic raiding is 10x harder than anything in classic including anything pvp related
>>581779838I don't give a shit about raiding
>>581779743Even collecting stuff sucks dick. Is there seriously a reason why legacy raids still have a weekly lockout?
>>581779425>They fired him a few months ago.lol
>>581779716if he wanted a trilogy he should’ve just made the next storyline AFTER the Last Titan into a trilogy instead of mangling a probably already-written expac into one.hell the Arathi Empire stuff is basically perfect for it, have that be a trilogy concluding with us facing the Arathi Emperor or whatever.
>>581779943nobody asked
It's kinda funny how K'aresh basically fucked this entire trilogy over and the Etherealfags who wanted it didn't even get Ethereals.
>>581779943I asked
tranuser
>>581780232Yeah I guess fornite doesnt need writing
Did the persian guy who was sexually abusing women and the guy who said you don't want classic do anything after getting fired from blizzard? surely some game dev company would want their talent.
>>581780643Afrasabi basically went off the grid. Brack founded Magic Soup Games with two ex blizz devs in 2023 and ain't released or announced shit since.
>>581779716>>581778967>>581779487>>581780238The point of the triology was to pad out the timeline.It takes ~4-5 years to make a wow expansion from concept to release.In order for metzen to write something new they had to pad one 2 year long expansion into 3 18 month expansions in order to get them 4 1/2 years to develop an entirely new story unconnected to the previous Danuserslop story arc. TLTs story and patchs are already completely finalized and they just making assets and shit for it now. Metzen is off working on 14.0 and he no on stage hyping 12.2 or 13.0 cusboth of them after this he hacked together out of Danusers mess and hes obviously not proud of them.But like its really not deeper than this.They needed a 5 year window to make a new expansion. Turning Danusers abortion into "the worldsoul saga" gave them that window.
Blaming Metzen for this is the biggest cope I've seen in wowg for a long time. Yeah he decided to turn it into a trilogy, it was a shit decision. HOWEVER the amount of content/dungeons/raids/events/zones are all fine, that's not the big issue. Having them stretch one expansion out over two hasn't really been the problem.It's 1. Writing/story/characters, any competent writer could have done better than what is currently being done. In fact there are plenty of side stories in Midnight that are done well. Not Metzens fault the retail writers can't do shit.2. Too many bugs. Things are getting pushed out every 8 weeks. Which is an over correction from the complaints about Shadowlands's patch cadence. 3. Content is cookie cutter, boring and worthless. Because it's rushed to meet the patch deadline.
>>581780818>yfw Brack's back alley game studio ends up being more successful than Frostgiant
FUCK FUCK FUCK FYUAAAK. PALADIN BROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING. THIS IS BULLSHIT, ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT. FORSAKEN WEILDING TIER 2 JUDGEMENT AND THE ASHBRINGER? I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE. HOLLY IS RUINING THE GAME, SHE'S RUINING THE SETTING. I CAN'T EVEN ENJOY THE PURITY OF THE LIGHT IN FOREVER BECAUSE SHE'S INFESTED IT WITH FORSAKEN PALADINS AS WELL, AAAAAAAAH, NO THIS ISN'T HAPPENING, THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO GO ON, WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOOR
Funny how Bellular endlessly shit on Afrasabi for le mishandling Sylvanas but once he was fired no one was powerful enough to keep the other writers in check. And now he's flirting with Forever to get away form them.
>>581781228Don't care still waiting on Void Elf paladin
>>581780238I gotta be honest, I think retail would be in a worse situation it's in now if we have TWW for 3 years with the same dev team.
>>581781082how can metzen do any creative for retail when there's a Union Contract that anything done for retail has to go through the WoW council and represent every minority? This is why Metzen rapidly went to Classic Plus its not under the oppressively WoW dev council and have to do oblige by the LGBT minority representation contract
>>581781469I honestly believe this I also don't know why retail is being written and run by a bunch of old ladies. Blizzcon panels were embarrassing.
why can't blizz have fishmenI wanna be Abe
>>581781082>>581781469>>581781575The issue lies with Him, Holly and the writing team. Holly should do her job and break up the story council. The story council should do a better job at writing and stop focusing solely on Elves. And Metzen should've been able to read the fucking room, which he continues to fail to do so. But instead it's always excuses such as>Oh yes, we like to hyper-focus on Elves because Elves are our most played races, it's clearly what the fans want.That's just enabling the fucktards on the writing team Holly.
>>581781469>>581781082You know how "nobody agrees on what classic should be" is a common talking poin? I think the idea of "fixing" retail actually has that same issue.
>>581781940Sure, I bet everyone wants different things to "fix" the game. I'm talking about the bare minimum issues. Less bugs, making the story not dogshit that almost no one likes and creating likeable, interesting (and hopefully new) characters
>>581781228Not to worry. Forsaken Paladin players will go back to playing whatever they were playing before when they see Forsaken characters wear armor and wield weapons like the ~20-year-old decomposing corpses they are, and not like Garek Bandarion.
>>581782265lmao actually true for me. I loved Forsaken Kingdom even though I never fucked with Forsaken. Checked out Forever on an undead pally and realised I don't want to wear shorts forever.
>>581781469>This is why Metzen rapidly went to Classic Plus its not under the oppressively WoW dev council and have to do oblige by the LGBT minority representation contractAnd forced tranny oc elves lmao
One thing I liked from WoW after Cataclysm was every zone having its own storyline attached to it. What was the best written one though?
>>581782265Ah yes Bandarion the most popular character, he was the driving force behind forsaken paladin since his release last week>>581782416Hide bones
>>581782824Hes not part of the retail time line they can't add him to retail because he didn't go through the council.
>>581782873No one gives a shit about him dishonest tranny, people started asking for forsaken paladins since vanilla.
my guild spent the night wiping on heroic ulatek again... for the second week in a row...
>>581779521id rather play a fresh then forever desu
Clearly what happened was Metzen came back. Went, fuck yeah, I wanna do a story about Thrall regaining Shamanism. Someone on the story council reminded him they did that in SL already. He was like fuck, okay I wanna do a story about the Horde. Have Thrall do some cool shit in MIDnight. Story council pointed out they don't have the recourses to write a Horde story in the Quel'thalas expansion. He asked why the fuck not, Holly then told them they allocated the recourses to get all the Night Elf VA's back for a plot the Night Elves didn't even need to be in as Night Elves must have 1 mandated expansion appearance each expansion now as recompense for Teldrassil. He realized he'd get nothing he wanted and moved to the Forever team.
>>581781228Take a breath, brother. Lower your blade for a second. It is absolute, unadulterated heresy, yes. The sight of a rotting corpse wearing the pristine, glorious crimson and gold of the Judgement armor makes my blood boil just as much as yours. Seeing them hold the Ashbringer? It's a desecration of everything Alexandros Mograine and Tirion Fordring fought for.But you cannot let the despair take you. That is exactly what the shadow wants. They can put a Forsaken in our armor, they can give them a replica of our blade, but they can never truly replicate the purity of the Light that flows through a true son of Stormwind. We are human male ret paladins, the most heterosexual class in the game.
>>581783145>they did that in SL already.they did?
>>581783269Yes, he got his Shaman powers back in Torghast when you break him free from his prison. It's why he was building stone bridges in the sanctum of domination raid during the Sylvanas encounter
>>581783363oh
>>581783363Talison and Danuser ruined everything. Talison for calling the cosmology lore brilliant and glazing the devs super hard, the story devs only watch talison. Danuser for not figuring out that Talison will glaze everything they do and call it a magnum opus.
>>581783163Aren't you literally actually a huge gay though?
>>581784054
>>581784172>biggest wow shill >doesn't do a blizzcon video>doesn't do a Forever videoHas he killed himself
Retail had almost nothing at Blizzcon but people in wowg will still say Retail is the money maker for Blizzard/Activision
>>581784882Uh yeah, because it is. New stuff for the other versions doesn't automatically erase all that bullshit on the store for Retail. Like housing garbage that women and faggots will buy fucktons of.
>>581784882People stop playing the current expansion when the next is revealed.
Why is he wearing a jew hat
>>581785151probably shouldn't have revealed 3 expansions at once then eh
>>581785226Dunno
>>581784172dude's giving me MCU Zemo vibes
>>581784882forever didn't sell 10 billion dollars worth of skyelves and beta access you fucking jeetlol
>>581785417>Blizz names Overwatch and Diablo as top performing IPs>No mention of Retail>Overwatch and Diablo are featured prominently at Blizzcon>Retail gets a roguelike and a hint at a .2 patchI don't think Retail is as popular as you think it is anymore but sure call me brown
Anons, do I use the Horde Tabard of Participation, Horde Tabard or the Orgrimmar Tabard?
>>581785765Vol'jin's Spear Tabard.
>>581785687I can probably buy Overwatch, but why Diablo? No way dude. That was a total panic move. Asha Sharma probably threatened to shut down Diablo team, so they're rushing out Diablo 5 after 4 came out 3 years ago
>>581785687You're brown because you can't read, blizzard said ow and diablo finally had some growth after losing players for years.
>>581785687>new hero, new game in 2029>more than retail gotjeets are so low iq its insane you should really kill yourself, the world shouldn't have to suffer your shit covered handsyou know you outed yourself with your hindi youtube language pref you fucking moron
>>581785687wow just had its best quarter in about 10 years so even though it's total dog shit it's making money
>>581785903I can see Diablo making tons of money, their online store is huge and plenty of normies play it>>581785916cope, WoW not even mentioned after the turn around since Shadowlands? They're talking about the same time period.>>581785919I said they were featured prominently, retard. Retail got a mention before their Game Director went and started talking about Forever.
>>581786249>goal posts status:>movedkys ranjesh you are literal human fecesend your fucking worthless life
If Classic was doing well they wouldn't have had to make yet another of version of it to try and get people into it.Therefore, Retail's the objectively more profitable game
>>581785687We just got the .1 patch and they showed off .2Expansions last for nearly 2 years at this point, it's been like six months.I mean its obviously fucking lazy and stupid and people will pan them regardless, but that's the recent trend they set.
>>581785765Tarbard of Participation looks the nicest, just get something to hide the backTabard of the Honorbound, Stone Guard's Hearald and the Brawler's Guild Tabard are also nice.
>>581786452classic sissies have been real quiet since this truth nuke dropped...
I am more of an arenafag but lately I've been trying to play more blitz with my warrior. How do you deal with healers in bg? Feels like trying to focus them is a waste of time in big fights since they have a backup and you're exposing yourself in the backlines
>>581786452>>581786692Yeah nobody was asking for Classic plus
>>581786828I remember years ago I saw a blood dk just gripping a healer away until his team won
>>581785765If your mog isn't Red heavy, Hellscream's Reach Tabard looks cool.
>>581786519They announced Housing for Midnight a few months after TWW was released. They had the big Housing video just before 11.1 too. It's a bullshit reason desu, Blizz should have given us something.
>>581787140Announcing Housing so early was really well received too. i have no idea why they didn't just say "and tinkerers are coming!" or some shit.
>>581787140Then next Blizzcon or whichever event Blizz decides to show shit off at, it's gonna be Retail heavy when they decide to show off all the shit they were keeping secret and/or making up on the spot for The Last Titan.Much like how that Blizzcon they saved the final announcement for Diablo Immortal, had all of the community feedback of telling them to go fuck themselves, and then next show cut the bullshit and got right to announcing and showing off Diablo 4, and that's where most of the shows attention was.
>>581787357They're not doing another Blizzcon. They already announced that it'll probably go back to being every few years as every year isn't going to work out. Last Titan is getting a showcase sometime next year and probably another embarrassing segment at the Xbox showcase come E3 season
>>581787357TLT comes out next year. We'll probably get a Blizzard Direct like we did with Housing.I don't see there being another Blizzcon until at least 2028 where they can show of Diablo 5/Starcraft
>>581787357Going with 6 month long seasons, TLT will come out around end of August/start of September next year.So there's going to be some sort of reveal, early next year is my guess.S3 of Mid will be around end of Feb/start of March.
Niggas don't even know about the roadmap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ZeNqTo4Ngwe need to retvrn
The average ESL spic can't even function in a mythic plus right now, and these retards wanna make things harder? Lol
>>581788284>DH main>Wanting Legion spec design backKwab. Bring back MoP spec design
>>581788557t. warlock
I didn't do any keys this week.
>>581788056I'd love to see Huber playing Forever / What he thinks of MidnightI don't think he ever returned after BFA
>>581788637I'll fix that with you tomorrow.
yea completely lost interest in retail desu classic forever forever
>>581788979desu even if Forever wasn't around the corner, this season is so ass I would have lost interest in it either way.There's something so unappealing about this whole setting.
>>581788979Id probably be playing Forever if it wasn't a beta right now. I'm still doing my maze plus
>>581786452I really dont understand, are they killing Classic? There's like 5 WoWs in my bnet app lol
>>581789575>0 blizzcon mention>mop its already like 2yoYeah
>>581789289Agreed. Super fucking shit.Not even dooming about the game overall; I legitimately liked TWW and Midnight specifically feels so kuch worse.
>>581789575Kek mop killed classic. Pandas really were the cancer all along
>>581790092It's funny how everyone got blown away by the Forever they completely forgot about any of the gorillion classics, like not even a mention from both blizz nor the audience.
>>581790184Blizzard is done with classic shit I guessAnniversary was a stretch and mop was obviously the end
>Brewfest Chowdown finally worksOnly took them 3 fucking years to fix.
Shouldn't we be getting the next patch soonish? Most people already have their 4set
>>581791104It's been like five weeks.We still got AT LEAST three months of this shit to happily play and not already be bored of!
>>581791104anon....
>>581791104Theres a npc with a timer next to the catalystThat's the timer for .5
>>581791104I don't have mine. Please give extension. Need 12 more months
>>581774225I've seen the full of this picture and it seriously did things to me...
>>581788557>Bring back MoP spec designtrutheth nuketh
what do you guys think of Guild Wars 3? I think the art style could be what a new Warcraft game is stylized into.
>people asking about next patch when I dont have 4 piece on my main yet and already had my first 2 keys of the night vote abandoned because everyone who attempts to tank in this game is a fucking retard
Did you guys play MoP classic? What we have right now isn't too far away from MoP for a lot of specs
Here's how you fix Retail.If you play less than 3 hours per day, you get increased rewards in every aspect of the game, increased by 1000%. It's an actual account wide buff.If you play longer than 2 hours per day and get a piece of loot, you aren't eligible for the bufff.
Remember Val and Naigtal? What the fuck was that all about? I feel like we were there for like 2 weeks
>>581791795I certainly didn't have to put talent points into my interrupt in MoP
>>581791795I played Tauri MoP and it was better
>>581791950I wish Blizzard catered to paying customers with 8 to 6pm jobs. Neets killed the game
>>581791970(You) went there to give payback for the void invasions they were staging against (you) from those "planets."It was basically just another excuse for the writers to wank off the void elves and show you how totally cool they are while feeding you more Void Elf cosmetics.
>>581791970>What the fuck was that all about?Draenei and ethereals really.
>>581791721>can't even time all dungeons on 7 for the bonus catalyst chargeAre the lower key levels really that infested with human detritus?
>>581733732
>>581791970perfect example of how the patch cadence sucks, there was barely a reason to go there, nobody enjoyed it, the zones sucked and no one will really remember it. Completely pointless content.>But we get new content every 8 weeks!!! You don't want WoD again do you???
>>581791970The story behind it is that while we were fucking up the invading Ethereals, we found out that they got their hands on the Legion's maps and portal tech after we defeated them.Then on Naigtal, we find out there used to be a Draenei settlement, and ofc the Ethereals are scavenging whatever tech they can.The ice planet is kinda just about the blue things from Voidstorm eating each other as we gaslight them.
Forever should have Blue Elves for Alliance and Purple Trolls for Horde
god i wish i were my dracthyr
>>581792929Forever should have Worgen for Alliance and Goblins for Horde
>>581794125And also the revamped zones, and tabards to help you gain rep faster.And the LFG system for dungeons.
>>581792331I play on the Latin America server group, so we're getting ESL tanks who don't hold aggro.But yeah, these keys are either completely dead or you get a tank who has no gear and doesn't hold aggro and doesn't care and will make the group vote abandon.A smart person would have just removed the threat mechanic from Retail, but they insist on having it in there to kill the game.
>>581792929The whole point of the blue Elves was to fix the faction imbalance caused by making all the vanilla Horde races monster freaks.
>>581794484they're ugly but they're warcraft to me, I love the OG Horde classes.
Hey will people still play retail? I had so much fun, but I have to wait 15min for PvP and I'm afraid that will only get worse with Forever :/
>stopped doing m+ in bfa>been thinking about finally trying m+>but if i want to get gear for the raid it's pointless since you can do lfr for story and heroic with pugs and no vc probably isn't possible >and delves are better anyway and i can get 305 gear with upgrades from delves so what's the point in chasing gear or even going past 305 ilvlmaybe i'm just low iq, there's also something inherently wrong and off-putting in tww and midnight, i never had this feeling playing wow before
>>581794813>shoulder armor on troll is floating above his headblizzard excellence
>>581794898>heroic with pugs and no vc probably isn't possibleIt's entirely doable, minus maybe the last bosst. just got done pugging the first 7 bosses without voice
>>581794958It's a back piece that has branches on it to hover over his shoulders.
>>581744619Not sure you can. Just have TLT be the final Retail expansion and have the future branch out from the Forever timeline.
Reminder that you're not entitled to the best gear just because you're playing the game
>>581794958One of the Tauren's horns is broken too.
>worgen can't be paladinsBlizzard is subtly telling furries that they will never see the light of Heaven.
>>581795381hmm, what ilvl do i need?
>>581775216Underrot is kino idc
>>581766160>>581768182>>581783145>Metzen working on both Midnight and Forever>shit is all over the place>lore completely raped>playerbase divided"A cosmos divided will not survive what is to come..."
Why are they advertising shit that won't be out for almost half a decade? I'm so sick of seeing this retarded marketing tactic. There are like 20 people working on retail and 20 people working on classic or forever or whatever. What the fuck is the rest of their team actually doing that it requires that much time?
>>581796440Forever should have a quest where you have to collect sigils from around the world to summon a low rez, classic version of the jailer
How can I search where a raid BOE is cheapest without paying some fuck for his patreon? I tried saddlebag but can't sort by ilvl
>>581795929~310 will suffice for 90% of pugs
>>581795894Or they for some reason still care about the little aspects of lore reasoning that barely matter anymore.
>>581796440Based Metzen
>>581796505>SoD has Xal'atath and dead elf body questline>Forever has Jailer and collecting sigils questlineImagine
WORLDOFFUCKINGWARCRAFT:DIFFERENT-FOREVERWORLD OF FUCKING WARCRAFT: DIFFERENT - FOREVER
Being toxic in pvp is so tempting. Some Rogue said >Just use your defensives after I got killed even though I used everything and was sitting on defensive stance then I instagibbed him behind a pillar. Had to stop myself from sending a >Use your defensives FAGGOTAlso fuck Blizzard for letting Champion's Spear stay bugged.
>>581796481>Projekt Red announces Cyberpunk like 10 years or more before it got released> :)>Bethesda announces TES 30 years before> :)>Blizzard announce a game 5 year before it gets releasedREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuck bro I'm pumping as dev
>>581744316So does nymrissa wavecaller have any lore?
>Warcraft divided between multiple versions>XIV has The Source and 13 shards rejoining or whateverNo way... Is Blizzard seriously going to do this?
>>581797591Your examples are one of the buggiest and barebones games ever released and some game that probably doesn't even exist yet? Those are some pretty shitty examples.
>>581796440>>581797749>Retail the source, original version of the game is facing a calamity or the end>breaks out to multiple versions of the game or shards>each shard has a different story how things goes down>J'lers cosmos divided or Warcraft divided will not survive what is to come so our job is to connect all these versions into a one or warcraft is doomedSome might think that WoW Forever is the final version but behold Warcraft ULTIMATE (Ultima)>your transmogs and collections from all versions are merged into a one single version which has everything in it: comfy and sovlful leveling, community, respecting your time, horizontal progression, rich and colorful lore, hardcore raids etc, imagine persons dedication when you see that he has collected everything from every version of the game and has some special rare title or mount because of that
>>581796884azerothauctions.com has it. has favorites on there too without logging in so you can add all you need once there.no idea why blizzard refuses to deal with people reselling their data.
I was so distraught after my raid tonight I went to bed and dreamed about it all night...
>Beg, cry, shit, squirm, and moan for literally a decade about how addons and cheats are totally killing retail wow>Streamers say it, zoomers repeat it, dying has-been paladins swear by it>A tsunami of people all screeching at Blizzard: "Remove addons and WoW will be saved">Portray it as a miracle cure, killing addons will save class design, raid design, make the world matter, restore the social element, and bring together the playerbase>Blizzard tries in Dragonflight and it's a disaster>They cross their hearts and swear to God above that it only failed because they didn't stomp hard enough>Blizzard swings for the fences and fucks up addons>Every class nearly universally boring and shitty to play>Narcoleptic raids that nobody at any level wants to progress>Dungeons become unengaging faceroll at the low end and retarded messes on the high end>Midnight in two patches is competing for least enjoyable expansion of all time and that's going blow for blow with fucking Shadowlands because at least that had good raids>None of the people who asked for addons to be removed care because none of them even played the game to begin with and weren't going to rejoin just because they got what they wantedthis would be the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard of in my life if I wasn't the CE demographic getting the raw end of this exchange
why is dooming so bad nowmidnight isnt so much worse than TWW is it?
>>581799538you can literally still cheat with addons so i dont get your point, trannoid
What I truly dislike about Forever is the blatant disrespect for retail and retail players from blizzard. >All the new things you wanted for retail? You can get them in Forever!>All the things you wanted them to fix about retail? You can get them in Forever with added bragging about Forever being the true Warcraft!>You dislike the low effort and buggy patches? Sorry piggy, your devs were busy working on Forever>You came to the Blizzcon for news about retail? Ahah sorry, best I can do is show you yet another trailer about the purple bitch doing her monologue and rehash the dungeons you hated the most>Do you want faction exclusive content again? Sorry, we don't have the resources to do that even if our team is the "biggest it has ever been". Btw, do you like the handcrafted lightning for the new zones in Forever? But don't worry piggy, we definitely hear you. >Do you feel like you and the game you like are being put on the back burner? Don't worry about that and don't forget to preorder The Last Titan pls.I wouldn't have minded a sequel or a even a brand new mmo, but the way Blizzard went with Forever just pisses me off. I feel like if I play that game I'd be rewarding Blizzard for being a shit company and let them get away with mishandling one of the most popular ips ever made for years.
>>581799892>>581798552>>581797458The samefag bait is a little cringe.
>>581799892>You dislike the low effort and buggy patches? Sorry piggy, your devs were busy working on ForeverAre you suggesting that Forever won't be suffering from the same? It's forked from fucking Midnight so it's not a dramatically more simple version of the engine.So now we have 2 Midnight engine era games with still no QA. The launch might be reasonably polished because of the hilarious PR disaster it would be if it was buggy as shit.
>>581745374>and the HoF is at an all time low>check official blizz hall of fame leaderboard >19 guilds have beaten ulatek>out of 200 available slots jesus christ that's depressing
>>581800672>put everyones BiS for the entire season behind the last two bosses>still cant convince people to wanna do itohnononono pull the ripcord ion!
>>581800481There will definitely be bugs, but the beta seems to be in a pretty good state. The problem is that we had Retail devs (of all kinds) confirm on social media that they were helping with or working on Forever. There is no way this hasn't affected or isn't affecting the quality of retail's patches.
>>581800672not to be dramatic but it really feels like midnight is the end of the road. like theyve ran out of ideas.
'ailor'dowlands 'ino
>>581801073Heroic world tier coming to TLT though! That's new, right? Totally not recycled from remix. Totally not gonna kill reasons to do M+ even more.
I'm going to be making a character for all dwarven races. What race/class combo should each on be?
>>581801820>Totally not gonna kill reasons to do M+ even more.who gives a fuck? can we stop designing the game around tumor+?
>>581801943rest of the game is shit, cry ab it
>>581797719Nope. She had Azshara's staff in the PTR but that got removed so she's just a random naga now.
>>581801871Regular War or Hunter, Dark Iron Warlock and Shaman for the stone dwarves
>>581802059it's shit because ion has been pandering to maze trannies for years. less reworks and carrots on a stick for maze+ and more effort into other content.
Blizzard should cut mythic everything. Put that man power to the things the other 99% of the players enjoy. Let the speed run trannies make fan sites to track dungeon speed runs. Should never have been an official endgame with support.
>>581801073>completely out of ideas for retail>retreading old ground for foreverI still think they should revisit the Maw idea. A zone ass deep in enemy territory where you cannot do everything because it gets way too dangerous for you to handle, but do it in a more organic way instead of "arbitrary timer says it's time to leave because death debuff applied now".But collection completionist fags would piss and shit themselves to death they couldn't spend 16 hours a day 100%'ing the zone so whatever.
>>581802164What about wildhammer?
How do I get 30 merchant's favor?
we wuz da original elves n shieet
>>581803376
When's the next time the expansion is due to get a discount? Christmas, or will they do a halloween/black friday deal? Historically speaking of course.Wanted to get back into wow recently, all the buzz about it has me itching to play some, but I don't really want to drop full price when the expack is half over already, and I assume I just missed some blizzcon sales.
>>581802528They should also remove adventure and veteran track from items They just need to cut down on all the 10 different versions of the same item shit
>>581803685You did just miss a sald, yeah. Halloween might have a sale for services and shop shit, not sure about the actual expac.
You can put a legendary Butt Vagina Titty Asshole plug in Retail, but it won't matter because its so fucking grindy that no one cares.Only people left defending it are straight trolls.
>>581803780It's so weird. Already have item qualities. Greens from world, blues from normals, and epics from heroic. Problem solved. Mythic fans can go play another game.
>>581803079OG Dwarves have a lot of options but Earthen basically have their storm riders, sp I decided to suggest other options.
>>581804015Speaking of legendary Butt Vagina Titty Asshole plugs, I think they should make a special togglabe toy mode compatible with sex toys. Perfect for Goldshire ERPers and high-end gamers that need the extra dopamine.
>>581804358I would even get rid of upgrading items entirelyIf they wanna keep upgrade tracks just have let's say a +5 drop 5/6 champion and a +6 drops 6/6 champion or some shitRaids can just be first two bosses 1/6 the two after that 3/6 etc..
I really like everything about the forsaken EXCEPT their character models. Lore, architecture, thematic, so on. But literally none of that shit that I like matters beyond like the first 30 seconds of making a character (or not even that because of the new unified starting zone). What does matter and will be a factor throughout the whole gameplay is the character model, which is the one thing I dislike.Sad.
>>581791950lol didnt a GM confirmed in Twitter that playing for long periods of time can get your account banned?? Haha....
>>581804604Would be very difficultfor devs to fairly distribute loot for each armour class without upgrades. Slots differ in stat amounts, trinkets differ in passive stats, it would be a mess. But devs going the other way and making fucking 9/6 items is retarded as well.
>>581804868yeah, if you're playing 72+ hours straight with no breaks, it's a bit sus
>>581804868I have sex with the GMs, on the low low fammo>>581804551can you just like.. shut up?
I don't play female characters Most of my characters are male humans with maybe few elves and occasional orc maybe inferiority complex or somethingWhere is my mexican passport ese?
WHO'S EXCITED FOR KITH'IX BOYS? I CAN'T WAIT TO KILL ZE BUGS LET'S GOOOO!!!
>>581805310post mog of your main
>>581804903Chatgpt ass response. The game existed forever without 5 different armor tiers and upgrade tracks. You dummy's are the whole carrot and are eating the fucking stick too at this point.
>>581805245no I can't -,-
>>581804962obviously 72+ hours nonstop yes but the guy (who asked for appeal assistance in Twitter) the GM unbanned was playing for like 12 hours. The tweet should still be up.
>>581804903They already fucking failed on the loot distribution front. The stat distribution on items for delves, prey and dungeons is bloody awful, not to mention the utter state of trinkets.
>>581805502What if I'm a methhead and staying up that long is not a problem for me? What about people with natural insomnia? This is tweakist and ableist.
>>581794484They could have literally just made Blood Elves for Horde and High Elves for Alliance. One has green eyes, and the other has blue eyes, and that's all they had to do. Skyshit fixes nothing. All it does is add blue Night Elves for both factions. This company went to complete shit after Jay Allen Brack left. He was the only one who had the balls to say no to this retarded faggotry.
>>581805859Or even better - instead of blood elves, make them those undead elves that Sylvanas and her close hoes are.
>>581805748i read a thread in their support forums that actually what happened to a guy, his account got banned, suspected its because of his 10+ hour playing sessions. And of course asslickers in there supported Blizzard's decision of banning him.
>>581805502They can be held liable for people killing themselves through playing the game now, and don't want to risk it. I get the fear. They're handling it poorly but after losing those cases in korea about the starcraft addicts killing themselves in pc방 I get it.
Um, Chud? They;re a business, they need to make money, That;s why Skyborne exists. Cope and seethe and dilate.
What will Alliance players ask for after getting High Elves? Some dumb shit like Furbolgs?
>>581806113This thread gets downsy from time to time, but the official wow forums is on another level. I don't know how those creatures can be real.
>>581806352Dracthyr of course!
>>581806436I swear, 4 years ago when my account got banned for multiboxing (WAIT WAIT just read on, my ban was overturned) and I checked whats the big issue with WoW Forever I SWEAR its the same people from 4 years ago harassing banned people lol.
>>581805859>>581805993Why does every criticism in this general revolve around "well Blizzard's idea makes sense but mine would be better"?
>>581807041Because mine would be better than this shit you unrepentant faggot.
every single one of my max level characters is a female vulpera
Skyborne > Vulpera
>>581806352That's exactly what should have came after high elves before any of this other faggy shit. 42 gay fuck dwarf races no one gives a shit about. Stupid ass Worgen, diaper gnomes.
>>581807085I too only have one level 90 character
>>581807308what did he mean by this?
>>581807529A whole five?? The Alliance left way too many alive back in Vol'dun
>>581807041>why is making existing races that have their place in the story playable instead of coming up with yet another brand new flavor of elf?It's not even a question, these undead elf especially with current goth fashion in mind would absolutely mog these blue retards.
If I'm new to wow should I start playing now or wait for the next expack? I always hear that's the best time to start playing cause everyone tends to start on relatively even footing and learns the content together.
You Should Pay For SkyBorne Elf and Play For-ev-ur
It really is fucking insane how they could have given all of these brand new changes to Retail, like expanded Vanilla zones and new lighting, better textures, etc. but opted to instead make yet another game mode for Classicbabs that don't even play the game themselves and just watch Assmongoloid streams instead
>>581807782>lightning changesThey can keep them along with the fog
one vulpera could beat up 6,000,000 alliance players
>>581807872shut.. the... fuck.... up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>581807870Preach it son. Fucking AI weather code just looks like terminal ass.
>>581807687Each patch is a big reset. We're currently on week 5 of 12.1, and soon alt-friendly stuff (and thus new player friendly stuff) will begin to unlock. You you're completely clueless starting now could give you a good basis for a better planned start in 12.2.
>>581808232>are you just gonna scroll past without saying howdy...
>>581808529If you're*
12.3., 12.3, 12.4, 12.5 and 12.6 are when massive alt catch ups unlock thats when you talk to Teljanni and the chick next toeh Time Walking Guy in the portal when you take a left, hang a right, you take a left, hang a right, you take a left, hang a right, and the man will be hovering and then you get an upgrade and then you walk down to Duriotar, after you fly from the main Cap to the Under, wait, no , Ash, wait, no, wait, The Blinding Vale? No Wait, you fly to the Ulatek.
>forevercucks form lines like jeets just to kill a quest npc
>>58180884712.1, 12.3, 123.3 ,123. and 12.8 is when you sim you char, sim your trinkets, sim your gear, sim your life, sim your guild, and sim your cock.
>>581808847It would so satisfying to skip the queue and get all those rage whispers. "You're the reason retail is dead!". "Every guild will hear about this, good luck doing raids!!!" Lol. Imagine the impotent seethe.
lol trannies seething/coping about forever again
>>581775216>underrotkino>iron dockskino>stonecorehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm-I9i8rFhM
retail = sim your gear, sim your dick, sim last seasons gear, sim this seaons gear, sim your current trinket, sim your bis trinket, sim your future trinket, sim your mommy trinket, sim every new item you get, sim your rings, sim your enchants and sim your trinkets then maybe you can clear NORMAL raid.
>>581809320Somehow I knew what that video was before even clicking it.
Whoever the retard is in charge of Hunter needs to be fired and then shot dead and left in a ditch
>>581809138I always skip these cuck queues. My vibrator fingers are too fast for waiting.
>go to bed>craptoilets have been crapping their opinions all nightat least it's here instead of somewhere other people would read and be influenced by it i guess
>>581744619Fire IonFire 80% of the writing teamGet rid of 4 fucking raid difficulties and just make 2, normal and heroicGet rid of M+ and just make challenge modesFocus on class or faction storylines.
>>581809750>tfw you woke up and forgot to sim your gear before the Retail raid that you have your little cuck dick attached to, you cant cum unless you clear the raid and sim your latest drop
Why did Blizzard remove Mend Pet automatically changing into Revive Pet when your pet died, and then keeps forcing Hunter's Mark as a part of your kit
>>581810101so true! can we get this in forever? its an obvious change its just common sense
>>581809418You literally click one button to do it
>>581810210Shut the fuck up, retard. You have your own general to shit up.
AYO WoW Gz333 DIGDAT STILL!! WAY TOO COLD!@@https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=63iXMnlMOQ0
>>581808847Actually, Jeets don't form lines, they crowd and try to shove their way into where they want to get to, not caring who they knock over or trample on the way. Forming orderly lines is a uniquely White/Asian thing
>>581791701What a fucking disgusting looking piece of shit character.
>>581808847jeets would skip the line and try to tag the mob because that is the most izzatmaxxed course of action
>>581810258that's fair, but i sorta wanna hang out and ruin craptoilet by trying to turn it into classic
>>581791701Too photorealistic. The reason wow still looks relatively decent after 20+ years is because the artstyle was always cartoonish and stylised. If they'd tried to make a realistic looking game back in 2004, it'd be too shit looking to play now
>>581808847I'd just jump the queue and try to get the tag because lmao. But I'm also someone that just shoots those "no i am friendly look i am jump/crouch spamming!!!" people in PVP games.
>>581810620I love Dracthyr, but I'll never forgive Blizzard for slapping on Visage forms and basically ruining them with no distinct features between male and female shit.
>Blizzard has been working on Forever for years>Kept Retail going anyway>Released FOMO and timegated items in Retail that are going to be deleted anyway when they shut down the servers and switch to ForeverAbsolute fucking sociopaths.
>>581811739It's unlikely they ever shut down retail. skeleton crew maybe if it gets to that point one day but the cash shop is literally keeping blizzard afloat. The optics for "World of warcraft is shutting down" would obliterate anything else that they'd ever put out or speak on ever again.
>>581811739>blizzard turning off retailDelusional. The day that happens you won't have Forever servers either, because the whole company would have folded and gone under to cause that.They still have all those fucking classic servers up with 3 people playing.
>>581812062>because the whole company would have folded and gone underAllow me to remind you that Blizzard is owned by Microsoft and Microsoft is run by a female Indian CEO.Blizzard will not exist past 2035.
>Season 2>all season 1 reps maxed>except Horriblir>level 8It's how I really feel.
>>581812275>mommy Domina owns BlizzardDamn
>>581812551Ew dude. She's Indian.
>>581812275MS will add wow sub to game pass before they let wow shutdown.
How long would it take to level from 70 to 90 with timewalking and thr mysterious fortune buff? Yes I have waited until the last day to level.
>>581812770all day. like 8hr.
>>581812808Fug. Better get started then. I also have the 25% warband thing if that even matters.
>>581810772>I love DracthyrI'm sick of lizardfucking zoophiles, to be frank
>>581812275Asha Sharmar has unironically been doing good work as Microsoft CEO, if you actually paid attention to details instead of just writing her off as a DEI hire, you'd see that
>>581812886Do every delve quest on tier 1 and turn in all the quests at level 86. It will save you a lot of time.
>>581812889Kill yourself obnoxious nigger kike parasite tourist. Genuinely fucking do it. I know you think about it every single night and day anyway. You won't be missed.
>>581813107Thanks bro.
>>581813151>nerve status?
>>581811739you're memeing but retail is easily going to outlast forever. wow as a franchise is quite fucked however there's a core retail playerbase that has invested a lot in the game and won't make the switch. leveling wise, temp retail converts won't even 60 because: lack of mob tagging, no flying, everything is really fucking slow. forever is a watered down retail where you are stuck in old rehashed zones, by february it's going to be irrelevant until the next content patch.
>>581776058So whats the solution? People sure aren't flocking to vaults of ulatek and curse surges by the thousands. 99% of the world content is pure engagement slop.
>>581813151>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANNA FUCK LIZARDS HOW DARE YOU CALL ME OUT!!!! I'M GOING TO CALL YOU EVERY SINGLE BUZZWORD THAT I'VE PICKED UP ON THIS WEEK!!!!!! THAT'LL SHOW YOU!!!!!!!
>>581813151uh oh meltie
>>581813576>>581813910>>581814069screeches the samefagging gay nigger stalker who's absolutely OBSESSED with people who post their characters here because he'll never have any friendsneck yourself braindead trannoid schizo freakreminder that if you report my post then you lost
>>581814127>an actual schizoid meltdown in the wild are the stalkers in the room with us right now
if forever won't flop and will be more or less successful, i wonder what updates will look like and will they throw more classes from retail or make something bew
>>581813701>by february it's going to be irrelevant until the next content patch.12.1 has been out for 5 weeks and barely anyone is playing it.
>>581815005Brewfest is bussin right now
>>581812946Whatever you need to tell yourself you shit-eating jeet scum.
>>581815091I got all the new moggies and decor already
I love Dracthyr.
I love Draenei.
>>581815404
>>581815404Best part of Forever is no goat fuckers
>>581815487>forever is anti muslimsbased
>>581815487yet
>>581815441Human men saw this in TBC and just said “wife”
>>581815404Don't we all?
forever as set the following precedent: >new races will be paywalled, no more freebies (even if reskins, SPECIALLY if not)death to classicshits, seriously.
>>581815931It's a way to generate more revenue in lieu of expansion prices, think of the shareholders anti-semite
>>581816148Microsoft barely budged after Blizzcon.
>>581816201Wifeforged
>>581816201gib
>>581816708>anti-furs will unironically say that getting fucked in the ass by this thing is superior to having heterosexual sex with a worgen woman.
>>581816708Fem orcs do more for me than the goats do
>>581817110>>581816708 is a troon you imbecile.
I love female draenei with penises.
>>581817330That's the only kind there is, anon.
jelly?
>>581817445No way you're lying
Why haven't you had sex with a dragon yet
How did a bunch of goats even end up with horsecocks anyway? Same with tauren. They are not anatomically correct.
>>581817642Someone in /wowg/ said that it makes me a tranny, a pedophile, and a racial minority. :(
>>581817642Dracthyr are cringe I only fuck real dragon ladies like Onyxia.
>>581817729>a brown hispanic who doesn't belong on the internet said things a brown hispanic saysStop the presses
>>581817683Same way Druid cats and gryphons and such seem to have knots.People are either dumb or don't care.
>>581817642They killed her before I could.
>>581817642
reminder to instantly filter avatar troons
>>581818440Remind this.
how do i make money in this game? im talking about big moneyi finished dragonflight and i only have 42k
>>581818232It's criminal>>581818363That dracthyr sucked my dick on my birthday and I've never recovered
How the fuck did they get away with ripping off the Nifflers from Harry Potter, giving them Texan accents and putting them in Zaralek Caverns?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=33977/swift-brewfest-ramhttps://www.wowhead.com/item=37828/great-brewfest-kodo>no mounts dropThis kusoge sucks cocks and dicks
>>581818790Professions and flipping stuff.
>>581819131>Professionsi think i made more money collecting all the random treasures and packs around the map than gathering herbs and ores, would that change in tww?
retail cucks are on some cope shit. you will receive your 5 trillionth recolor mount as a patch feature and you will be happy.
>>581818625Bodied that freak
>>581819816>take retail model>half the texture resolution>put it in forever
>>581819964>type words>pretend they have anything to do with anything>post poop
>*offers you a sip*Your response, /wowg/?
>>581819363I meant current expansion resources and professions. And you have to produce, not just gather. There's some geese shitting golden eggs in older content but people don't like sharing those, and neither do I
>>581819025WoW is a bigger IP than Harry Potter. It's World of Warcraft, and has been an actual long standing game. Nobody, and no realm of fiction, can compete with that fact. So fuck off back to /v/. WoW, retail specifically, is here to stay whether you like it or not. It will be here long after we're all dead. That's the impact it made.
>>581820104I lick her paws
>>581820104Sex.
>>581820143except for 3.5 d&d of course
I wanna fuck a femworg in the muzzle and record itimagine the side view
>>581820283Wanting sex with women makes you gay, anon.Don't you know how things work in /wowg/?
Hello. I'm here to talk about WoW. Retail sucks, go to Forever. It's much better. Retail is A SHITTY GAME and I'm not about to be AVGN and play A SHITTY GAME. Foreverchads will stay winning while you babysit Anduin and Arator on SHITTY retail.
>>581820104ew
>>581820496I'm not sure that's really very advisable
>>581820104>>581820193>>581820283>>581820496>>581820564>>581820575impressive how easy it is to single all of you retards out
>>581820564If wanting to fuck a femworg is gay then I'm the king of homos.
I didnt play dragonflight or uhh tww Is the only relevant bit from dragonflight that the iridikon dude is into xalatath and is trying to get the dragon soul thing deathwing used?
>>581820751disgusting
>>581820646you don't even know what it is, how do you know it's ew
>>581820780because a gross bitch is touching it, ew
>>581820894She doesn't look that gross to me. Does look kinda bitchy though I admit
>>581820751>i want to fuck animals i'm so weird right guys? am i fitting fn yet? please confirm that i'm fitting in so that i can continue to keep fitting in. i was bullied for being weird but i've found a home here i want to fuck animals am i fitting in??? don't tell me if i am because i don't care i just want to fit in and be quirky and different and am i fitting in?
>>581821026No one is talking about fucking animals except you, Nochesty.
>>581821026I don't say that or look like that.
>>581820751>>581821026>>581821005no, wanting to fuck animals makes you a freakyou will never be accepted. WoW forever rejected your kind and so does WoWs playerbase at largeyou are a pariah
>>581821096nice deflection to someone that probably hasn't posted here in years.
>>581821074>>581821074>>581821074
>>581821096Furries always lie>>581820751
>>581821228early
>>581821190Worgen aren't animals you blithering retard.
>>581821223I mean youre not wrong about the deflection but I made the thread bud
>normals and straightoids will all move to Forever's RP layer>retail RP servers will become a paradise for furries who only have a single real race choice on one faction in ForeverUtopia is coming.
>early thread with a thumbnail of my magewhy
>>581821414So? I can ctrl+c and ctrl+v too. We can ALL do that. It's like the first thing they teach you in elementary school computer class. Why would brag about such a stupid fucking thing?
>>581821296Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, brownoid.
Classic sucks lol
Futa will save World of Warcraft
>>581821854>the one other anon making fun of people wanting to fuck animals is brownThat's bullshit.How about you go jerk off on your own time, aye? Until then you're just circlejerking and riding the edgelord cusp of transgender acceptance.Just go jerk off and stop bothering everyone in the world. That's all you have to do. That's it.
>>581821190
more classes should be like current retwhy? because it's fun and strong as fuck
>>581822396A self proclaimed animal fucker calling someone else a faggot. That's rich.
