New Fish Edition>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:Arbiter of Life and Death, Phyllisia - Until 10/14https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026091702/Founder of the Fallen Star, Arboris - Until 10/7https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026091002/>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:Guardian from the Shadows, Gerard - Until 9/30https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026090302/Flameblade of Revolt, Yoizou - Until 9/23https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026082702/>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/[More platforms] SteamOS/Linux workaround (the game still tries to delete itself)https://steamcommunity.com/app/2379740/discussions/0/583930834798645041/ASPD nerf - https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/news/2026082703/[More fishing] Silverscale Count’s Manor[Fire mage equipment] Cave of Malice update[September Roadmap] https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2094712279531180421>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>581410418
First for david
Wow I really should be bounty farming right now
Reminder to report and ignore shitposters
>>581791038I'm so sick of bountiesI got the master ring and called it a daythis game is so miserable without a macro
>>581791038I need to get my master ring already.
>lulu screenshot on my tablet>auto categorized
>>581793950>she thinks shes people
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VTzCVYtGIvQhow it feels to fish with 5 beastfolx in the party
Female Monk(ey) Beastfolk.Named Carrot.Do it JD.
>>581794825CARROTTTTTTTT
>have 20k junk to sort through >can't do anything until anni comes with enhancement and sale bonusedI still don't understand why we have a storage limit. Obviously it's to squeeze out gems but it makes equipment management so fucking miserable.
>>581795089if you're botting why do you have issues with gold
Someone mentioned dungeon meshi before and it got me thinking they should do something with food, in the tavern or at camps. Food providing small bonuses for a single outing, like relicbrews but temporary and only positive. We have fishing now and there's potential for a system where you bring ingredients with you to use at a campfire within a dungeon. Ideally, they'd also have some cool artwork like pic related or the super hi-res videos of meat frying in dragon's dogma.How would you implement cooking?
>>581795548I think this could be a good idea, it'd be a lot of work but I can see it actually being something they could implement.
>test
>>581795548Idk I don't really want to have to start micromanaging my food stockpiles for outings. It would be cool to have a cooking mama minigame for ingredients with shop rewards or something.
>>581795548For me it's pea croquettes
>>581795548>cool artworkits gonna be ai
>>581795548It could be added as a new "rest and cook" option at the fountain. You'd have the ingredients from fishing and from quests like the ship's cook, but you'd probably need to add ingredient drops for monsters, I think it'd be best to add it to the potion/item pool as opposed to making a brand new one. The only thing I'd be worried about is its potential too slowdown the game.
>>581796707>>581795548>cookingIS OPHELIA'S TIME TO SHINE!!!!
I looked up some fishing techniques online and basically this is just a daphne fishing tutorial
3 more milanas until I can poison attack 5 on my ninMC...
>>581674756SoulfulHave you posted here before?
>>581797863>have the exact amount for thatNeat.
>>581799071that's 6!
nyus?
>>581799264me when i bring my queen yuzunamiki a new 4* purple beclouded kunai only to catch her satisfying another man (again)
>>581797863Dagger or Ninjato NinMc?
BIGSAFEBOAT
>>581799343Yuzu is for Morgus only
>>581799520dagger or kunai due to how the dual wield damage formula works
what is left? did drecom forget that september has 1 more week?
>>581800896should be missing the blacksmith setting filter, if you consider it content...
>>581801187no that was added with alt arbo
>>581801418Oh, totally missed thatnow what?maybe Dredcum thought that Philly Steak Sandwich would keep us busy for another week?
3 more months.
>>581801919blade and bussy is in march swo
>>581802203(3 more months starting from next year)
>>581797863I feel like the Relic Dagger has made Poison Attack a lot less worth investing in.The unique skill it gives hits pretty hard with a ninja.
>>581802287the point of PA is that it costs chump sp to throw out. MC likes that, since most of his SP is still going into chrono spam
>>581793950>MESU>peopleThe breast folk are too free.
>>581800896Drecom needs some rest after the recent content tornado of fishing and reused quests
anniversary will save wizardryif not then they can always just wrap up shop and eos
>>581807221AI loli elf already saved wizardry. Cheers to loli elf pantsu.
>>581808713there are nyo nyontents to use her onshe is like a figurine to decorate your room with
>>581808805Decorating your room is nyontents.
>>581808919mmmmmmmmmnyo
>>581795548>you make some fries at the camp>alice demands someit can be soul overload
>>581808713People keep saying she's a loli, but I don't think she is.She's definitely young and diminutive, but she doesn't seem like a child.
>>581810896>agora desires a double bigmac!
>>581811594loli has lost all meaning basically
>>581811594The answer to that is easy. Is she allowed to drink at the tavern?That's a genuine question, I don't have her
>>581811594Loli is and has always been a body type, not an age. It's why subcategories like lolibaba or gohouloli can exist.
>>581813318>Loli is and has always been a body type, not an agelol
>>581813454You can cope and seethe about it all you want, but it's reality.
>>581813318retard
>>581813656Nope. The entire point is the age. End of story.
>>581813318no matter how many times you push this it's not gonna stick
>>581813318This is how I know this thread is full of fake ojiisans. The elf is the obvious high schooler who abuses sensitive older men.
you shouldnt be allowed to post here if you dont have at least a few strands of grey hair growing out of your balls
>>581814045She pokes the ojisans on the chin-chin whit her branch, if you catch my drift
>>581813318>Loli is and has always been a body typeI agree with you, but I don't think she has the body type. I can't see her as a child.Others evidently disagree though.
>>581814963>first I got grey ball hair>then grey whiskers>now I've got grey chest hairsI like it, though.
she is a loli. if she was living in modern day she would probably be a freshman high schoolerthat makes her a loli by definition
lwos...
>>581815358Is this what too much fishing does to a man? No longer satisfied with fish, he's tryg to bait people.
>>581815537It's working, clearly. Don't respond to him, bwo (baited warped one).
maybe you should've set the hook a bit sooner fwo (fishing warped one)
nyozardry nyariants nyonyontents
the thought of a ninjer shotgunning out 5 kunais at once and one of them cuts someone's windpipe is pretty funny
>LABADIOS>LABADIOS>LABADIOS
>>581816020finish all the fishing nyontents first then you can complain kwo
>>581816428hmmmmnyo i want better nyontents
>No contents until next monthJESAS
>>581816392You went too hard too fast, just take it slow.I have MC hitting him with Bamboo Cutter + 5 supports who never directly attack him and it always goes fine.
what do I earn by sacrificing 2 weeks of my life to complete fishing?the right to complain about nyo nyontents?
>>581816870But HWO (helpful warped one) I'm still on 1st run where I can't take too long or I'll kill the children by accident
come on sand cavejust drop me those last 3 shrouded kunais>but your becloudedI'm not autistic enough to do that, I'm just gonna sit on collab silvers until A5
>>581816945nyes
>>581817165If it helps you, killing Godefroi the 2nd time is easier.
>>581817412Good to knowBut I'm not geared well anyway, with my ninja MC in front and my two fighters not having spears or bows. I should go back and reequip but that whole section was a slog, I'll just wait until I get more flames to try again.
>>581811594benis
fish
>>581818330why is she picking her nose?
>>581818412Usually, it happens because there's boogers in it.
>>581819325>picks her nose>flicks it onto someone>they get a buff
>Chloe: brown tabby cat>Amelia: ragdoll cat>Debra: orange cat>Barbara: siamese cat>Shiou: ???
>>581820330>Yuzu telling Chloe THAT THING human men like
>>581820954british shorthair
>>581820954The catfolk chart
>>581816392>KANTIOS twice in a rowayieeee I even Makalki'd my whole team
BEHOLDLOLI
>>581824597holy fuck amelia is cutei want to pet her until she gets overstimulated and bites me
>>581824752swochachodono your healerino??
>>581824597barbara and shiou are fugly>beast-thi kot has that protruding anime toothadorable
>>581824597huhwe're missing the most beautiful and sought after kot in the natural kingdomthe calico
>>581825742anniversary kot
Should i?I really like her armour look though. Wish she could've kept that as a thief.
>>581826002you should just to unlock her thief passives. Then you can probably round trip if you want
>>581826002the class change event is kinda frequent so just wait for that
>>581826193class change event?
>>581826331they let you pick 2 class changes of choice for free for your dudes. More if you pay.If you have others you want to CC on top of savvy you want to same all the selectors for them too
>>581826331we get an event every 4 months or so that gives 2 free class change and a bunch of ticketsmore if you pay 5-10 bucks
>>581826503>>581826534Hmmmmm alright. I think i'll wait, thanks!
>>581826612it's likely to return during the anniversary so 3 weeks
>>581825742We're missing a proper void cat too.
AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAA
>>581826806I'd have said savia but she's a fake darkie
>>581826002I think you should get it because its aids trying to find a specific book. When the CC event comes around that's one less token to spend on the selector.
>>581826002She's not a great thief, but the CC gives her shit she really wants. 1,000% get it and just round trip her.
>>581826806>go into the nyabyss>can't see shit>step on void cat
>>581827702dyark as nyit tis, it's nyo reason for your feet on my tyail
was the bounty shop forgotten or did they add more of them for A4?
>>581827702Wait..I SEE IT
>3 more weeksDon't miss out, anon.
>>581834831There are 4 new bounties in A4, even more if you count the capture bounties.
>>581837772>expires just before anniversary (october 15th)yeah no thanks that is the definition of a bait banner
>>581837772More proof that Dredcum uses AI:the wing on the image are Assymetrical and placed randomly, while on the model are symmetrical and placed precisely near the knees
>>581837772i'll wait for her rerun
>>581837772I don't like parasites full of std
>>581842527We really don't need more proof at this point
>>581844103Marianne alt was even worse.
>>581837772My Camille is D2. That's enough for me.
>>581837772I dont want to play easy mode so i wont use healers
>>581837772I want a human healer
>>581844851Best i can do is human-he
Is Wizardry 4 that hard?
>>581846829yeah
>>581846829try it and try to get out of the first room without reading any spoiler whatsoever
>>581847415he might be able to do it since he already played daphnealthough as a new player to the wizardry series there is exactly 0 chance you are able to figure it out by yourself
>>581843947You don't want a strange flatty coral creature inhabiting an elf to snakebite the shit out of your ghulmeat with her quadruple jointed parasite pussy? Are you fuckin gay??
>>581844851Don't worry, Best Grill Lin-Lin will save the day whit class change to Healer
I am forgotten.
>>581791038i don't wanna....
>>581837772Fuck I didn't play for two weeks
>>581854020Wooo!
>>581815280>othersIt's one underage retard who thinks his discord definition supersedes the japanese one. You can tell by the post times.
>>581844180Not really. Retards just didn't notice that her eyes were supposed to be Gs for Gold.
>>581856197loli is not a japanese termit originates from the lolita bookit's the nickname for the main heroine who is 12 years old
>>581856782>retard pretends not to understand how language worksThe elf is a loli, even the japs are calling her one(in between arguing about AI), and no amount of you trying to redefine words will change that.
>>581857090i dont care about the japanese and i dont care about your japanese cocksucking mouthloli is not a japanese word
Instead of arguing about it you faggots could just check her ingame height next to elmon
God I love 1000 year old lolis and childless milfs.
>>581857454In-game height doesn't count when Anemone is as tall as Elmon.
>>581857819anemone is a loli thoughever
>>581857454Not him but it is. Japs were the first ones to coin lolita complex, just like they coined shotarou complex. Doesn't matter if the book was written by a ruskie.
This DRPG is a blobber and that hebe is a loli okay? It's simple
>>581857965Meant for >>581857417 gomenyasai
>>581857090Japanese anons are just as retarded as American anons.
>>581856073I do miss Gundam Evolution everyday, RIP, taken too soon
>>581858174This is quite possibly the worst post ever made and I hope a kotposter bites your balls in your sleep tonight.
>>581857819I dont have doctor phil but she's about the same size as olive in game
>>581860629Imagine picking Elmon up and pinning her against a wall and drilling into her hagussy with your smelly ghul dick…
>>581837772The right play is to preload up 5 reroll accounts on her and then see what 2nd anni is
>>581860629Philly does wear womanlet's heels, so she might be shorter than Olive
Zeid just puts his foot through the chair to establish dominance.
>honey, is time of your dick flattening
I am a yuzulet but this reset I got kiriha fighter bookIs it a thing to unlock shedding, then class change kiriha to fighter and unleash bow attacks in the back with HA3 or DTS3?
>>581863872Unless you’re building specifically for heavy armor, the defense penalty doesn’t make much difference even in the front line, so frontline or backline work for Fighter Kiriha.
>>581863872fighter kiriha is one of the best because of shedding
>>581865595>>581866367Well my frontline is gonna be the B&B crewBackline is MC / phylss/ flex. Are there any other good general adventurer backline DPS to look out for?
>>581866579Ghetto elf ranger I guess, but kiriha is probably your next best choice if we are only speaking generals.
I don't want to go back to the cave of malice...
>>581873482Then don't. Farming it is as bad as alabaster.
>>581873940It gives about 4 times as much currency, and the fights are a lot quicker. It's nowhere near as bad as alabaster.
>>5818742144x currency for junk with 3x costs. And so many door animations if you are on b4.
Castle junk is better anyway.
>>581876747Oni junk (sword fiend) is best but castle is easier.
How good is Samurai MC really? Is fighter not defacto best?
>>581878302Basically, Fighter is more survivable and higher 1st turn dmg with less room to scaleSamurai is less survivable and higher every turn after 1st dmg with more room to scale
>>581878302if you invest in bamboo splitter 5 and optoinally use elemental weakness you see big unga bunga number
>>581878302BBS is not worth the investment now with A5 and raven dagger ranger MC on the horizon.
masketta rape
>>581878302Best class for MC in my opinion.Very high damage and has the MP to allow him to cast magic as needed.Also the only possible evil samurai in the game right now so it's MC or no-one if you have an evil team as I do.
>>581878302Samurai is best for the real big grinders and or spenders because their "effective attack" stat can hit higher highs so even if you leave things like the -bearer spells or bamboo splitter aside they will DTS harder than any other class, and this is especially true of MC who has WotT, WotW without needing to chance into a rare inherit, and lots of stat boosts from the different classes. Fighter is a pretty respectable, not that distant 2nd place, but also much less of a pain in the ass to gear and level so if you're only putting in a couple hours here and there and the theoretical limits don't matter your fighter will do better.
>>581878302MC's main job is just to spam chrono, sam gives you modest damage while doing it plus gives you a bigger MP pool than other physical classes. You technically can do DPS with him using bamboo too, but it's not really worthwhile over chrono spam. Quicknyaa stance is also nice utility sometimes.
>>581878302Somewhat unrelated but I’m pretty sure advanced classes are bait for people if you can’t macro to get a steady income of junk and alter stonesAlso running the 25 million exp gauntlet for advanced classes MC sounds painful as fuck
gonna have like 5k gems by the anniversary event honestly i don't can't about whatever banners they have i just hope they have the character selector bone again.
>>581886997Yeah, I really don't know what banner they could possibly put out that would make me want to pull. They could do it, I really mean that I don't know what I'm missing. I know I to this day do not give a shit about Yuzu though, so meta/powercreep can't do it by itself. In my mind I'm just looking forward to freebies, including gems to put towards upcoming alt banners.
>>581886705i did ninja during the collab and it took me a week straight of farming 16 hours a day to go 1-70its fucking pain
>>581886705It just happen. If you play then you can level up everything and everyone.
>>581886705>We received a great deal of feedback regarding the amount of time investment required for adventurer progression and how it becomes increasingly difficult to incorporate new adventurers into parties.>Based on your feedback, we plan to introduce new features that will reduce the time and effort required to train adventurers and make it easier to include a wider variety of adventurers in your parties.They said this back in June and a lot of people took it to mean that they would do something about the fact that no new banner character is ever going to be worth benching your character that has 2 years of inherits, but personally I just see it as them planning to make it only take 20 million exp to level Samurai. Maybe not though, it shouldn't take 4 or more months to change exp tables.
>>581886705I've mostly just been day logging and I hit 70 on sam / nin back in spring
>>581886997They will probably have a selector of some sort, the real question is what 5 or so bones will be options this year.
>>581888885You're supposed to be constantly switching from 30-50lv ninja/samurai back to a different class, sleep, then switch back to continue farming. You did do that right?
>>581890153I don't need to. I have like 50mln+ exp in books
>>581888885You are supposed to feed your MC the exp books gwo....
>>581890153You can sleep at fountain
>>581891496nah, MCs gonna get everything swoyou save those for when the mythical banner that checks all your boxes finally shows up or new lvl cap arrives
>>581891881>wasting books on level cap instead of letting your party level at the old level cap in the new abyss and only uncapping when they can gain ten levels in one goShiggy diggy. So much free exp wasted.
>>581892132nah, I'd rather have party members get the new skills asapnot like mcs gonna do shit other than chrono2 and reactions
I used exp books once and I felt bad
>>581890153why would you do thatalso i didnt unlock sam yet because i have no plans to level it in the foreseeable future
>>581892526it gives you more exp when you fight higher level enemies. Half the reason why the last 10 levels for advanced classes suck is because you need 15 million exp and also your exp gain is halved or somethingI never had a problem though, it just happens naturally through grinding. Save your books for that last bit if you want it to go smoother.
>>581897274oh i get what he means to not level up the actual class at the innwell the collab didn't really have exp penalty until 60 and i just farmed junk so no real loss therei took the time to level up like 8 alt classes too just farming all day like a degenerate
Which Phyllisia should I use broiq iv 80 fort vs dex iv 100 fort
>>581899892iq
>fighting a mimic>Lana dies with fortitude 67>revive her>Lana dies with fortitude 37>fortitude now 7>don't revive her>end fight>fortitude back to 23is there a mechanic I'm forgetting? what happened here?
>>581900735did you take like an hour to fight that mimic
>>581900735Fortitude doesnt recover in combat but it still recovers so somehow you were in combat for so long that it recovered by 16
>>581900735I think ive seen this happen before the total fortitude loss seems to diminish if you choose not to rez
>>581901321>>581901592nah, I thought of that as well but I even have a recording of it, it happened in a spawn of 5 minutes max, also she was alive with 1hp and wanted to go to the tavern as soon as I went back to town, not sure if it has anything to do with that thothis happened at the ffxi dungeon btw>>581902058I was reading around but didn't find anything about that
>>581900735>>581903070https://files.catbox.moe/yts7wq.webm
>>581902058>>581903070>>581904450Greater harken>fortitude still goes down by 30 if you revive>fortitude only goes down by 15 if you do not revive (30 without greater harken)>adventurers revive if they have 1 fortitude when returning to town if they died while under a greater harken
>>581905354thanks anon, didn't know about those mechanics
squeaky and screaming lana is so perfect, it really is so much better ghan her girl boss voice
>>581908630she must be an abusive husband's dream
>>581908630She just sounds more natural when shes like that. The confident voice feels legit forced
>>581908630imagine the mating press squeaksit must be like "eep eep eep eep!" to the rhythm
>>581899892100 fort
lana x raffaello otp!!
News?
It took a lot of fountain spam, but I finally unlocked Anemone's second lore page after nearly 5 months.
>>581911765They are either making some of them harder or they can get bugged. Most of the time I get the heart just from killing a few gwos but yuzu took me months and anemone I'm not even trying anymore since I'm evil.
>>581911718We're done for the month with the new elf being out. I guess the last week of September we should get another preview of next month gibs?
behold
>be nyootralchad>can make friends with any bitch fast, unlike good and evil cucks>tfw schizophrenic fence sitter is the best Feels good.
>>581911718We're probably getting a pre anni banner 13 days away from anni or something>>581912605Im sorry about the % it looks like it hurts
>>581912676Imagine this: you're in the tavern, hitting it off with a girl over some mead and rabbit stew. She asks some questions about avoiding surprise attacks and traps and such, and seems really taken by your answers. Then she hits you with this one: "So, big guy, you never did tell me what your alignment was."Your confidence instantly shatters like a frozen goblin hit by a two-handed warhammer. Unable to meet her gaze, you stutter "O-oh, I'm neutral actually...""Sorry, didn't catch that.""I'm neutral."Her expression turns from one of enjoyment to one of utter disbelief. The elves at the next table all start whispering to each other with grins on their faces while keeping their eyes focussed firmly on you. The dwarven barkeeper can't help but shake his head as he turns to take down another keg of beer."I think I should go..."She says, getting up and running out, her face red with embarassment at having sat down at a table with the biggest loser in the kingdom. You rise quickly to your feet, shouting after her the only justification you can think of "Wait, I can explain! You see we neutrals get an extra 10% from both..." you never get to finish. As you take a step forward you find an adventurer at the adjacent table has stuck his foot out, sending you tumbling to the floor. Everyone in the tavern is in uprorious laughter now, as tears run down your mask you lie helpless on the floor mewling "Someone, someone please just kill me so I can accept death..."
>>581912725Sorry friend, I can't hear you over the evil foxes and good fairies slobbering on my ghok.
>>581912147>>581911765Anemone is literally harder to build trust with, yes. As far as I know she's the only one like that. And she starts lower. Don't bother farming her, you'll go insane. Just keep her in the party and let it happen naturally.
>>581912725I have no strong feelings one way or the other.
meowskettard wants nyontents
FUCK OTTO
>>581913032Im not letting that bug lay eggs in my brain you cant fool me you disgusting creature
the kots are multiplying too fastwe need to castrate them
>>581866579 (me)i've never done the shedding cheese before do i use a 8bp STR IV kiriha or a 8BP SPD IV?
>>581914425Str. since shedd and porto give you two turns pretty easily
>>581914504thank youfinger bow kiriha is on the way, though i'll be pretty sad if the anniversary character is a ranger
>>581913574The seed has been laid. Still missing 2 pips on the compendium.
the only important thing is my sperm inside all of my female party members
JP dev just put a demo of their dungeon crawler on steam, it has an english translationhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4165660/Dungeon_Treaders/
Okay this time I'm as ready as one can be. I'm not moving until I kill him.
How hard is it to make a fully 3d DRPG?
>>581916835Pretty easy when it comes to coding and such nowadays, the hard work as always will be assets and dungeon design.But anyone can slop up anything with store assets and such
Damn bitch you look way too happy
>>581916835Relatively speaking, it's not too bad. But the real trick is making it balanced and fun. Too many games forget the endurance part of dungeon crawling and make things too easy.
>>581916178>Dark mage>YuzuIt's no wonder you were having trouble with godefroi 1.
>>581917448Yeah my team wasn't optimal at all, though Yuzu was useful for Dissipation. I ended up killing him with a bit of luck.No children died so it was all my fighter row grinding him down on the second row.Ironically Sheli is the only one who survived the forced loss
>>581917690you got lucky with a complete evasion
>>581917690Nice. I'd recommend dropping Sheli for Emil. It's the only fight Emil is good for but god damn is he good for it.
>>581849856Daphne doesn't have secret doors of any kind. Like all gachas its main target audience are sub 60IQ jeets and not the people on the astral plane of upper autism that was the original Wiz audience.
>>581918327Not YET. But rangers have a skill that explicitly reveals secret doors.
>>581918327yeah but knowing what milwa does gives you a hint
>>581918327this game is more for rich seamonkeys than jeetsthey think they are good at this game and they give terrible advice because they are just carried by their gacha gear and d9 legendaries
>>581919661SEAmonkeys are jeet-adjacent
>you can cheese every non-stun-immune boss in the game by using stun bash and abyssal strike with multi-hit weaponswhy didnt you guys tell me thisi had to find out by watching a chink beat the collab dungeon superboss while on autobattle
>>581920739Because most bosses are immune and the collab dungeon was pretty low difficulty for end game players to begin with.
>>581920739ALEX INHERIT STONKS GO UP!!!!!BUY THE DIP!!!!
>>581920739Because using a mace with fortified strike is even better.
I just don't spend money or even keep up with chores in this game but shitting on things with gear and stats is a problem with all RPGs and that's why gacha devs flock to them like vultures.
>>581918327never played any wizardry besides daphne but what kind of autismI know nothing about the old games besides the Sseth wizardry 8 vid
Goddamn I didn't think I'd still die to wolves after killing Godefroi. This despite controlling his freezing perfectly
>>581924761Wolves are the hardest fight prior to the true end.
>>581925096Yeah fuck this niggardry I can't get past his last phase once he summons a thousand wolves and buffs himself to the roof. I don't know how I did with worse weapons and levels.
>>581925738You need to count HP and either have the burst damage to skip his giga nuke in one go or keep up with killing the smaller wolves/making sure the boss isn't cold. Also having knigger defense if you need to tank the nuke is helpful. It's an annoying fight though.
nyontents
human ranger for 2nd anni doko
>>581925738Just use the cursed wheel to skip it lmao.This is a well coded game.
>>581927704Can you really do that or are you memeing me
tactics ogre collab soon
it's 3 weeks before anni and the game is as dead as my poor outdoor kot who disappeared 2 years agono maintenance announcement either so nyo nyontents this week
Female Good Fighter for anniversary
>>581927792They might have fixed it but try it
>>581928056>poor outdoor kotthat kot has been breeding nonstop gwo
>>581928190I'm pretty sure they fixed that long ago. But he should still give it a shot.
>>581928328no he just came of age to fug so i guess he didnt know what to do and just got caught by a dog or a carmy other kot however who has been an outdoor kot for 6+ years now must have an entire dynasty spread around the neighbourhood
breed kot down
>>581928445i skipped it when i went through godefroi 2 like less than a month ago>give berry basket>wheel node unlocks>walk all the way back to a harken>wheel
>>581924761You only need to fight the Wolf the first run. After that you can just skip it. Get the berries from the tavern and give them to Iris. Then use the Wheel to "Slaying the White Wolves".
>>581924761I just fought the wolf after disabling the blizzard going through the shortcut and the poor guy could only have a few turns and one of its actions was always to summon a few wolves. Felt super easy with the blizz off. Didn't pull any fancy move.
>>581935882Huh yeah that makes senseThanks a lot anon
>>581923041Yeah. At some point leveling up and grind in general is counter productive to good game design
>>581940515To be fair its either that or powercreeping
>>581940672the sad reality is that it doesn't even matterp2w as a concept is different in this game than any other gachaany unit they release is going to be, at maximum 10% better than the second best optionmaybe in the very far future it will reach 20-25% but not any more than thatthe issue is that the inherit system is just inherently brokenwhen you have passives that give 25 surety/spd and things like way of the thief that just straight up give you +50% damage when you have it maxed it doesn't matter what unit you are usingthe only thing that matters is how many codexes you used on that character
>>581941110inherits allow every unit to be "OP" or at the very least viable for future contentnot sure if thats good or not for the game but I appreciate that I can still use my old units from A1also inherits make every unit feel impactful since they give permanent buffs or skills, you can make them into bondmates, or you can dismiss them for tags which is another system that makes every unit you have contribute to your power level in some way
>>581941110but it does matter because this game is built upon tiny upgrades scattered across hundreds of thingsa guy with a d9 frontline will act before the collab "superboss" meaning he doesn't lap you while I have to purposefully go find a body with double ASPD and a ASPD ring>wah wah its a collab superbossevery little bit in this game adds up, relicbrews might suck ass but if you have 4 maxed SUR relicbrews suddenly its 36 SUR now the average legendary unit won't break your party but if you save 100 pulls and get yuzu and a pin, and you spend a couple books to Hue3, then you can ignore everything in the game from abyss1 to godefroi while an average slob party will get walled a thousand times
>>581942656>>581943458you swos talk like this is a good thingit already feels horrible switching out even one of your party membersin a couple of abysses it will be basically pointless to roll for any new unit
>>581943829Just do like me and play with everyone on D1 max and skill level 2 max.
>>581943829no, its not a good thing, but drecum probably designed this game up looking at 3 months into the future and not 2 years>look at them scrambling to fix ASPD now because oops you can act 28 times in a rowthe inherit system is just another mistake of said short-sightedness, and when they realize people aren't pulling anymore because replacing character is impossiblethe only alternative is to heavily powercreep so a legendary unit with a level 3 skill can perform just as good as your 2 years of investment d9 lana. or they somehow take a breather, stop everything, rework the whole inherit system and progressionbut we've seen this same shit happen across hundreds of games
>>5819438296 god units that can tackle every content is bad nyesbut I kinda like that toomaybe they can make it so equipment and team comp is much more important, but that can be another form of super cancer grinding too
>>581944350You can do that?! Doro is so smart.
benis
>>581944764I still regret not pulling a second alt-Abenius for D1.
>>581944221I dread to think this game will become like FEH in the next few years I hope it eos before that happens.
>>581944221>drecum probably designed this game up looking at 3 months into the future and not 2 yearsFor many (Obviously not all) live service games, doesn't matter if they're gachas, shooters, MMOs, whatever the game is developed by one group of people and then handed off to a different group of people after the launch window to keep it running while the people who developed it go on to make the next project. That's how games like The Division 2 or Destiny 2 launched resembling the launch version of their previous game and didn't include the improvements made over the years, because those were a product of the live service team. I have to imagine that's what happened here. It's stable for now and obviously I'm still playing the game but before A6 comes out they need to 2.0 how a lot of things work in this game especially relating to stats.
>>581944764benis
>>581946126it's a step forward that they caught the ASPD stuff before it got too widespread, so to saybut yes i do agree there's a lot of things that need a 2.0 pass if they plan on keeping the same difficulty jump between abyssessome people might say its not a problem, but take for example abyss 4 enemies and let's ignore the RNG inherits for a moment: you will get 2 tapped by 90% of enemies, with the other 10% straight up onetapping youif we have 6 more abysses to get through what the fuck are mobs going to do in abyss 8? delete your account directly if they hit you?>just have adam, sanctuary blessing, sheli and wotk on everyone and still get 2 tapped if none proc
>>581946126>>581946872At some point they need to fix the -100 SUR in offensive spells. Mages can't keep upwith melee fighters in damage.
>>581946872Yeah, offensive spells and defensive stats being obsolete; stat skills including discipline, bondmates, and relicbrew losing value every level cap; damage sotcaps on level 1 skills being too low but SP pools being too small to spam higher level versions; there are just adjustments that need to be made
>>581946872I feel thats a bit of hyperboleA4 feels easy to get 2 tapped because wolves have high surety, but all the other standard mobs dont kill you that fast with decent silver gear thats just +10. A4 is more annoying than difficult desuI think the difficulty is pretty consistent since A1 even. Like you can easily get 1 tapped by hobgoblins back then if you let them charge and you dont CC them. Normal goblins also kill you in like 3 hits when you started the gameThough this is from 2 years ago though, now I dont even know what kind of catchup gear and stuff they give to new players to get through A1.
>>581946872At least debuffs work in this game
>>581947504this is my benis, she has no defensive inheritssave for rabbits that hit for around 250 because she has hunting boots, or maybe entities if they do the normal attack, everything else hits her for 300+ damage, upwards of 450 if its a giant scorp, the rockstone dudes, hack from a hobber, etci'm fine with getting 2 tapped in a1 when you know you can progress a lot and eventually get past it, it starts becoming a bigger issue when now everything is +20'd but there is no real progression to be made, the only thing I can improve is hitting 120-130 SUR so I can overcome trash mobs surety evasion and oneshot them before they act
Introduce an "adventuring experience extraction talisman" itemthis resets all inherits into 1 scroll and the appropriate amount of exp scrollsadd the same thing for relicbrewsHand them out every 2 job change event. Let people pay more to buy them. Game saved (until they realize everyone is keeping their progression so they're powercreeping)
>A4your brickhouse knights bwos???
>>581949386>Level 3 row taunts only have like a 2/3 success rate>All around cover takes like 20% of your SP even at level 1
>>581949947is row taunt weaker than bbf
>>581950726I honestly don't know. Savia is my go-to knight. BBF is what I am using at level 3. Maybe defensive provoke is better, IDK
>>581948919Heres my benis, I tested her with most of the mobs and only getting like 250-350 per hit which is ok with me since I kinda have low defense. Even a non surety wolf hit does like 280 to her, but a surety hit does 580+The scorpion lady and rock people doing 450+ or even 500 is normal though since they are a high dps target like the minotaur or chimera in A3What kills me most of the time though are the magic/ranged attacks by spells or the slimes, but thats because of the low MDEF on my frontlineI just think that while A4 is annoying, the damage is not really overtuned. Its just that theres a lot of annoying shit that can happen to you like freeze or the fucking birds.And you only have 300 DEF, I dont think you should be expecting to have a unit that has a high ATK/SUR/ whatever and you still can tank everything just because you have +20 on all slots
>>581951125that's kinda funny. I'm using inherited bbf on linaria and shit is SUPER effective. Even if the taunt is only 2/3 that's 60% DR on your squishers
>>581951320and that's, in my opinion, still a problem. I could realistically have her hit 400 DEF if i were to roll a silver heavy helmet, gloves and body replacing light/cloth/light to shave off 50 more damage>lolwhich means now a very small few selection of enemies will 3 tap her, but wouldn't make a difference for anything that isn't a rabbit and there is no farming i can do to solve this, except rely on RNG inheritsif enemies in abyss 5 start having 50 surety evasion and now you need 150 SUR to consistently autofarm without any change being done anywhere else, because kill them before they kill you is still the way to go, you can see how it starts being unsustainable, right? or if they start having enough HP where a fighter SUR hit isn't enough.
>>581952163remember what we said about evasion dying? turns out it's still not dead and having a little bit can still increase the amount of average hits that you take!
Thinking about the future of the game, what about some kind of "Defense-Based +" that reduces the damage based on the equipgment tier? It's sorta like the 2H weapon trait.
>>581952163>if enemies in abyss 5 start having 50 surety evasion and now you need 150 SUR to consistently autofarm Thats a big if though. Why would you assume they will suddenly overtune like that instead of the standard progression we had for the past 4 abysses?Like you can definitely expect silver gear to not be as effective in A5 and you have to get the new tier gear with higher base def to avoid getting 1 tapped. Maybe they'll introduce new types of enemies that has high evasion or surety evasion like the vampires.But whats the issue with that? Why does the game have to be balanced for you to be able to autofarm on +20 gear.
>>581952163Stats too low.My 0 discipline Lionman has 650 DEF and enemies in Abyss 4 do almost nothing to him.My other frontliners have 200~300 evasion and, likewise, have no problems in Abyss 4 because they almost never get hit. Three taps you say?I think my Lionman or Savia could take ten attacks and survive in your average A4 encounter easily.Get better gear?
>>581952791Not necessary. I like the idea of how damage and defense work in this game where there's a sort of wall of "enough." Enough attack for an effective hit on the enemies' defense. Enough defense to effectively resist enemy attacks. It's just that enemy attack values are so high relative to defense values on even silver heavy armor that "enough" is just generally out of reach. Literally a number tuning issue.
I must be retarded, but how exactly do you attempt to fix the cabin in 2nd run?I'm talking about the initial hand of reversal attempt. I can't see anywhere to interact and I've looked at every wall and tile
>>581954463>Get better gear?>Good gear that may or may not have the stats you're looking for are 1 in 200 drops from junk which is itself relatively uncommon>Might be something you don't want like cloth armor, a mace, etc.Been in the process of getting better gear for 1 whole ever at this point
>>581954942wheel back and it will trigger when u walk in the front door.
>>581954463that's the better gear i got after a thousand hours in the gamecan it be even better? sureif i could manifest out of my ass i'd use it
these two alices have the same stats which one should I be leveling I'm gonna merge them both anyway right?
>>581956350whichever has SPD or LCK IV
>>581956468how do I check the iv?
>>581943829The way JD is talking, I expect some sort of rare-ish item, prohibitively expensive penalty, or Morgus-like NPC that squeezes all the inherits out of someone like a juiced orange to use again, possibly in the next Abyss
>>581954942It can be buggy so wheel back to the last mine checkpoint. It should trigger when you enter the cabin.
>>581956350Doesn't matter at all, unless you want to most maximum minmax in which case you level both to 70 because stat growth has RNG and just pick who got the better roll
>>581956657For Priests specifically you have to check for SPD IV by looking at their class change stats in the training menu
>>5819566571 of the stats should be higher than the others, but you mentioned they are all the sameSPD IV is still possible but it's hidden on Aliceyou need to register both and check the class change screen for mage at lvl1 on bothwhichever has +1 SPD, that's the one with the SPD IV
>>581955539>>581956680Thanks that worked. Bravo Drecom
>>581949146>all inherits into 1 scrollcome one bro, you know it's going to be one inherit at a time. and the item will be more expensive and rarer than a FAS.
>>581956350Register both, put all points in SPD. Check mage CC page for SPD boon.If neither has boon, inherit Agora 1 onto Nyalice and use her until you eventually get a spd boon OG Alice to use as merge base.
>>581957829listen to this guy
>>581958197Don't listen to this guy
high luck on lana is a good thing right? i heard in the late game she benefits from it as both a knight or a fighter
>>581958197>>581958614i don't know who to believe
>>581960948Post a screenshot of both Alice stats.
>>581960835It's mediocre. My Lana is luck boon spd BP and I rarely notice the difference in activation rates.
I bought another star and heaven guided passport but they have not given me my purple gemmies. I suppose I have to wait three more days for my last pass to fully expire...
>>581960835>>581962031Didn't check the screenshot to see that you are a new player. Go ahead with that, you can always change up her boon/BP in the future with a merge on her easy to obtain alt.
>>581962373They only show up on the client you bought them on
>>581962973I am retarded...
>>581962973what is this retardation? what if i bought 100k purple gems and my phone stops working?
>>581963198You are savoring the risk.
>>581963198>what is this retardation?Unfortunately standard practice. Literally every game with a premium only currency going back 10 years has specifically warned me "Hey, if you plan on getting an iPhone after this Android, spend up all your premium currency beforehand because it won't move over with your save data." This generally doesn't happen in games that only have 1 currency (but sometimes does)), but if there's ever a split between green and purple gems here or red and blue crystals in the Final Fantasy gachas, or anything like that, the currencies stay tied to the storefront you bought them on.
is this a countdown for a restock or will the coins wipe as well?
>>581970237Coins from adv bones? They stay.
>>581970237restock only
>>581826883Buy more inventory space
>>581971008You don't really need more than 100 inventory space.
>>581970237The currency stays but the shop resets. Drecom doesn't explain it properly in the game
I wonder why more indie devs don't make games like this? You'd think it's easy since they're grid based.
>>581971008Nice try jay dee
>>581844103Are the japanese salaryman ojisans not speaking out about this or are they completely okay and or are indifferent about sloppa?
>>581970549>>581970748>>581971271thanks guys, I'll just keep piling them up then
>>581971216pretty sure usables, sell items and unique items already add up to way past 100
>>581971959the problem isn't the grid baseyou can get AI to literally spit you out a randomly generated dungeon + the movement system in 10 minutes plus a couple textures for walls and flooringthe problem comes from everything else: do you want it to be a roguelike? roguelite? what's the progression elements? do you want to make a wizardry daphne clone without the gacha element, or do you want a pure single player experience?you then gotta write a story, come up with items, balance classes, program enemies, make 3d models, make animationsfor a genre that's very niche at best>but i'd play itsure i would too but even a small team isn't going to dedicate a year of work to something that maybe sells a thousand copies
>>581971959indie devs are targeting 20 somethings as a general rule because they are the ones who will make it pop in the social media algorithm and get the sales to compensate themselves for the work they put in. Games like this are the domain of 30-50 year old dudes.
>>581972313Japan seems to be much more lenient on AI, which is strange considering how angry they get about piracy.
>>581972313Japanese consumers in general don't have strong feeling about AI. If 0 is hating AI and 100 is Sam Altman levels of buy-in, Japan would average to like 51. It doesn't mater who or what made he picture or how, only "is it cute?" There are obviously people who oppose it in every region but on a consumer specific level and not like as a matter of economics or philosophy, it's really only the global west that has the strong stance against it.
>>581972584>>581973063Huh, that's bizzare. Like that guy said, they're pretty autistic about piracy but somehow sloppa, which sits next to piracy, gets a pass? Truly bizzare.
>>581971959because nobody would play this game if it wasn't a f2p gacha. It's harsh but true.
>>581960835I heard luck is whatever on Lana since 95% of the playerbase keeps her as a fighterLuck is for consistency on knight-exclusive skills like all around cover.
>>581973475Hey man I got every achievement in Dungeon Encounters. I love my tile filling.
>>581972423>your non-gacha wizardry needs to be a anti/woke friendsloppa streamerbait metaphor for depression to even THINK about sellinggrim
>>581973535For fighter, luck still has value for farming since follow up and counter attacks both go off luck so when you are just autoing from chest to chest it goes a bit faster. Doesn't do anything in a tough encounter you're playing manually, where the ideal is just enough speed and then strength but the gains from strength aren't significant and luck cannot be increased by any means other than levels, where strength and speed can be supplemented with bondmates so I generally give extra value to luck, especially with a rare Alex and/or base Adam inherit
>>581965161I think it's just a weird JP thing, chink gachas don't do this at all
>>581975324>chink gachas don't do this at allHAHAHAHA! China is way into AI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fmww3zmOZsGenshin got busted using AI art for sure, I think NTE did too? IDK I don't generally follow those games
>>581976476Retard, read the post I am replying to
>>581972584That is because piracy hurt corpo. Or so they think. So it must be bad. AI is used by corpos, so it must be good.
>>581974618>counterattack and follow-upI thought these weren’t as relevant anymore ever since the updated auto systemFollow-up doesn’t get used if you auto class skills or last used action. Being targeted to use counterattack as a damage source seems not that good unless you have ways to reliably be targeted off the bat like galbadus
>>581976635Truly, I am the RWO and I admit that.
>>581977831Auto attacks are still used a lot because only Benis can go infinite with SP Regen on ESS
>>581977831My yuzu ranger can follow up on 2nd arrow. 4x 1200 feel nice on full auto.
>>581978238Post kot as a proof of apology.
>>581972313They’ve been bitching non-stop about it.
I've given enough potions to enemies and I turned from evil chud to neutralchad.What steps should I take to remain that way ?
>>581980239
>>581977419No, they’ve been complaining about AI pretty hard, but when it’s tertiary to the project they’re much more whatever about it.
what the fuck is wrong with jd? 4 turns of ramping and getting chunked for a huge amount of hp each turn all for this trash buff?anemone gives 10% just for existing and then 17% more if she uses her buffs
>>581985979I don't know what you are looking at, but the elf's buff depends on multi hits to be good. It's very strong on a character like Prishe or Yuzu who does a bunch and kinda shit on a character who does one big one(fighters).
>>581985979Perma 10% is good on Yuzu because it is hard to keep her buffs up. Less worthwhile on any frontliner because you can use rebellion on 3 targets at once.
dead week
>>581985979My own testing has me doing 2100 normally and then hitting for 2500 with a full bloom flower so either this is wrong or gets factored somewhere earlier in the damage formula that lets it multiply out to a larger effect.
>>581988382gyatt-mogged
>>581985979has anyone showed off Phylissia with inherited anemone skill? I have it but i've been waiting to pull the trigger on doing it.
>>581988672Why are people trying to put hero medicine on other healers when Anemone already doesn't have enough actions to use it?Save it for a utility character like a high discipline Rinne who is great at spread attacks but falls off once any adds are gone.
>>581988382So what's with the shackle on her ankle?
>>581989764>Hero medicine gets stronger under a continuous healing effect>Tree parasite counts as that>Putting both on one character leaves 5 other characters per round to be attackingNot a hard concept.
>>581990063She was given to a peddler as a child and that was probably just part of the condition she was kept in before she was eventually abandoned.
>>581977831Why would I waste time with skills when I can kill even faster with auto attacks?
>>581990249>5 attackersWhat content are you doing where>Can spare an action for hero medicine>Frontliner survives the 75% HP loss from the seed>Lasts long enough to bloom a flower>But not so long that hero medicine falls off and debuffs you>Still encountering statuses that need a healerThis is the hurdles the evil frontline has to go through to not use Lana
>>581991090>I must kill fast and skills too slowCalm down John Freeman. Some whales are on that 6 ninja unending deaths kick.
>>581991912My phylissia moves so fast I find myself needing to find things for her to do other than defend.
>>581992161Then put that giga speed gear on astral break Alice and support to the extreme.
>>581991912>Frontliner survives the 75% HP loss from the seed25% DoT, that gets healed to full by attacking. >But not so long that hero medicine falls off and debuffs youIt can be refreshed>Still encountering statuses that need a healerNot generally, but reactive healing effects are good to make sure your character is healthy going into an out of turn action the enemy will use after getting attacked and books taught my healer shit like porto anyway>evil frontlineI use Lana up front to damage boost Gillion and heal him after he damages himself fighting mobs
Dumb question, does anyone know how much a 10 BP strength adds to attack damage on a STR+ weapon compared to a fighter with no bonus points in STR
personally, I'm using Phylissia because she's very small and cute
>>581988527It's absolutely wrong numberwise, but the idea is correct. The buff is a % plus flat damage boost of some sort, which is why it's good on shit that does a bunch of hits and less meaningful on shit that does a fat chunk in one go.
>>581992431I don't like alice EN voice and thus I do not use her.
>>581993517it's not huge, but it should be like 30-50 damage on the final number I think. It's pretty noticeable early on.
>>581995461Hmm damn okay. I thought it would have scaled moreI see responses like >>581988527 saying they hit for 2100 base and 50~ damage seems like a small drop in power for how much the community obsess over IVs
>>581995879Well there's really no alternative other than speed. That's why we always say if you don't know just go speed. At this point I just give everything speed points. Works fine.
>>5819958792100 is either a skill or a surety hit. There's a bit of room for that 50 to mean somethingbut yeah IVs are a nice little bonus that feels nice, they aren't that impactful at all
>>581993517It's fucky because they buffed it about a year ago and now it multiplies whole attack value inclusive of things like blessings, not just strength's contributions and it gets stronger with each gear tier so it contributes more on a silver weapon than on Ebon. I wouldn't stress about it too much, even with perfect stats and blessings you won't even hope for without a gameshark, most of your attack value is baked into the weapon's base stats and going to +20 is going to get you where you're going
So the single target auto revive on healers has had Zero(0)none no impact on the game at all, has it?
>>581995879>seems like a small drop in power for how much the community obsess over IVsEverything is small on its own, one IV in a party isn't that noticeable, five IVs is
>>581996585Not for most parties, no. It's pretty nice for Shiou, Gillion, and any knight that taunts instead of spamming KD but not even some huge day and night difference for those characters that most people don't fuck with.
>>581997435I was doing A4 gwo, had an extra turn on my phylissia and remembered the skill exists. Still didn't use it lol.
Any tips of catching a medium winter trout? I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
more and more gook art is coming
>>581998606I think it's still a shitty lunar cycle for fishing, but red or ice wiggler (depending on how murky it is), 8-11m, left side, far, jiggle the line to lure it (move the rod up and lower it down over and over while you wait, but not so fast that Lulu complains)
>in a sleepless stupor, get 1 purple bone whit some random gems>get amother PhyllyWewI already got mine at D2, should i feed her to Linaria for macimum insemination? Or is bad inherthed?
>>581999668you might want to consider self inheriting to level the skill up. That you have d2 meant that you could have had a pretty high skill level for it by now. Common sentiment was that buff at lvl 5 was massive, so leveling it up to get even close to that would be a good move
>>581999921Not him but I thought early consensus was discipline was really good due to extra magic and div power
>>581999921Truth to be told, i just lucked her out and rolled her only once, got the rest from the free bonesMight as well level up the skill then
>>582000329disc is unfortunately a meme. It's a curve, more impactful at later levels but that's hard to hit when you aren't a whale. At d1 and d2 you're getting single digit improvement to your stats.Discipline is good to enable discipline sharing when the character has an alt though.
>>581998763they do good thighs
>>581999668I do feel like Linaria was the best choice for her inherit as well.
>>582000782Linaria is the best choice for a bunch of support inherits because she gets free moves to use them on
>>582000519Apparently the skill scales pretty well with levels, unlike the fairy(although the fairy's skill is a good inherit, unlike the elf's).
>>582000602Personally, even though I know disc generally doesn't offer much, but because skill exp is so much more available than disc exp I just discipline and let books level the skill if I need it. Plus I cope that one day they will rework disc to be % based instead of flat when the whales realize that D9 is like a 5% boost at endgame.
>>582001370I get what you mean, but disc feel like it'll always be relevant given how this game works for the forseeable future. It'll always be fine tuned towards the enemy killing you in x number of hits and the 50 extra hp lets you take one more. HP is the only relevant thing with most disciplines anyway. Whales doing buttfuck damage always comes from lvl 7 skills
>>582000915I really hope her alt comes out soon. Im probably going to force her into my team unless something crazy comes out before then.
>>582002248alt will probably take a while. A bunch of us Linners are waiting for her to be taking the pre-anni CC slot because we need to take her out of her brick of a class asap into either nin, healer or ranger
>>582002789she will be a mage.
>>582001370There’s more and more things competing for skillbook exp though. See: prishe
>>582003050every class has the same amount of chance to be picked because jd just roll a dice
>>582003050She'd make a very good mage.Mages mostly just spend their time casting BATILGREF and she can do that + something else.Free mental unity would also mean she can actually do damage without wasting a turn setting up.
>>582005720she'd make a good mage but mages are kinda bad and she'd peak higher with other classes
>>582003634I'm also starting to wonder what happens when the regular adventurers run out of alts and class changes. We had Enrico and Camille as new adventurers and that's it.
>>582006868they're likely an afterthought. Wasn't Heinrico's CC dropped alongside a legendary?
>>582005720If thats the case then you can just inherit baltigref onto her. Then she can have a useful class like ranger
>>582002789You will take your knigger and be happy.
>>582006675Oh, without question.I'd rather have her as a decent ranger than as the best mage in the game.
>>582007093no idea I keep him as potential fodder for other rangers. I haven't ever used a non legendary since very early on. Only now that they are 5+ discipline have I considered it just because of HP concerns.
>Spells learned from level 71-80 do not cost mana>You now have a set number of uses for these spells, 6 at level 80.>Lagriefilto blinds, slows, and decreases accuracy of all enemies>Adds 8th level La spells that are thrice as powerful as current spells, and scale even harder from Magic PowerYour response?
>>582007930I just want proper damage-dealing mages/spells.
>>582008332It really messes with the canon of the series that they are so weak. I'd rather go oom in 2 casts that annhilate everything than this middling crap. And it's not like they're using mages to force you into elemental content or something. Elements can be ignored in this game most of the time.
>>582006868>We had Enrico and Camille as new adventurers and that's it.bro wtf Bugen is right there! he's crying now.
>>582008781My eyes don't look down.
>>582002789Fighter, just because we don't have many fighter/thief legendaries (just Aldric?). I would still prefer healer.
>>582006868We probably get another set of 5 general adventurers for the advanced classes once we get the monk.Maybe some beasts and dwarves if magic or genders become more available.
>>582008332Yes please bring tzalik back to its former gloryYou remember how hype it was for the fist to come out and bonk shit on a limited resource?
>>582008537The main issue is the way the game handles soft caps for damage scaling. Early on, when we only had two abyss mages were absolute forces(especially because they were our only source of AOE). But the soft cap of launch spells is just too damn low and we haven't gotten anything that really scales past it.
>>582009512Tzalik crits were a big deal. Biggest damage we had ever seen.
>>582008537>Elements can be ignored in this game most of the timeThis was genuinely sad for me to figure out back in the day. I remember making a formation of Elise, Jean, Yek, and Daniel for A2 and thinking that shit would surely be the play going forward and then synergy boosts like Alex and Flut were just never relevant again. lmao. Now the element system is pretty much just there to make dark characters sad when fighting A4 GWO.
>>582010114A2 was nice when you had earthfire in A4 tooI think it's alright. Too much work to accomodate though beyond just using a samurai though
>>582010185>fire in A4 tooI think I have never brought fire to A4 just because it was (thankfully) spoiled for me early that bigfoot would punish you for using fire and I think somewhere in my mind I took that to mean the whole of A4 would punish me and it's really just right now that it's even occurring to me that it even might be good to bring fire
>>582010537shiou on a fire buff and odachi helped me a lot with the wolf. Removes his ice stacks and cleaves the small wolves. MVP as fuck
>>582010185I really don't like having elements, but making it so you need an elemental weapon. So your element doesn't actually matter, you can target weaknesses with anyone. It just feels wrong. Dark characters do more damage with all attacks to light characters. That's how it should be. Now it's just about defenses, and attacking is based on gear. Gear is that impossible to farm, and always the second best choice, soon to be outclassed anyways. It's mind boggling. I swear Claude must have come up with half the fuck game mechanics while it was making the code.
>>582010114>Elements can be ignored in this game most of the timeThat's only true in easy content. In hard fights and superbosses element matters quite a lot. More higher the damage on both sides the more it matters.
>>582007758Peak souless
>>582011850That's most of the time, yes
>>582007758Anticipated attack is terrible fodder, just discipline him as another dispatch chest opener or as a reserve unit.I'm holding 3 wide volley Heinrico for a better ranger though.
>>582012574It's actually pretty useful to spread around for fights like the goyim with stupid high evade bounty. Saves you needing to make hammers for everyone.
>>582012709that actually works? i have like 10 spare heinigga but i cba'd to make 3 hammers for my frontline
>>582012848It can't miss, of course it works. Like it's still a niche thing and hammers are still stronger overall but it's considerably less effort. Especially considering what else are you gonna do with a pile of henrico? Use him? Lmao.
>>582015303i remember reading it once about something something sur hit when preparation but i apparently skimmed over the cannot miss partguess i'm finally doing that bounty
>>582012574You're not thinking outside the bun. Anticipated attack is an attack that always hits, no matter what weapon you're using. You can give it to a priest or healer with staff of weakness for a free attack debuff if they aren't doing anything else. Of course you only need one level for that.
>>582015530I rolled 2 alt abenis for the oblivion flash and then gave my backrow priest a 1h macenow when I auto it procs occasionally on the laughably low atk that always hits
>>582015530>ATK debuffThe 3 slots are occupied by foxfire, batilgref eva, and batilgref SPD. All my priests are dual casters with balafeos.I did equip a 2h hammer for unmissable glue bomb on the golem bounty.
>>582016742Foxfire is separate debuff. It's more like a status.
>>582015530does anticipated attack need a ramp up round like fps? I always assumed it did
>>582016879No it's just an attack that doesn't miss.
>>582016923huh, cool. I guess I can think about eating some heiniggis then
>>582017024This gwo is eating niggas
>>581998763the anniversary update will be for the next tier of fishing. look forward to it.
nyu nyabyss...?
>>582009512>>582010092I'M ENDING THIS
>>582022060tfw a fighter's auto attack does more damage than tzalikman now...
>>582021907you'll make a fine rug, cat
>>582022338Normal attacks appear to have no soft cap, eventually normal attacks will outscale everything we have right now.
>>582021907
>>582022338He spoke from experience
>>582021907bet the cat didn't even eat the bread
>>582024493of course it didn'tjust like how half the cat posters didn't even finish a4 true end yet
>>582024738busy fishing
>>582029021
2nd anniversary already... Will we really get to see all 9 planned abyss stories?
>>582033461No. We'll get to abyss 7 if we're lucky.
I have earned my fairie-fucker permit.
I've finally unlocked Samurai MC.What's the basic gestalt on him?
>>582038290Bamboo splitter 3 and then you can take epic screencaps dunking on any elemental-weak enemy.Or just use him for farming with an odachi in areas you cannot auto basic attack yet.
>>582038290Waste 25mlm exp to level up worse made up from paper warrior.
>>582038290Bigger MP and SP pool to spam chrono and status cure spells with. Bamboo is a meme in most cases, not because it's bad but because chrono is just that fucking good.
>>582038776Thanks. I got a very good Masterwork Odachi but finding copies to unify looks like it'll be a pain in the ass, I still have Sand Shadow kunai trauma>>582039484A-At least I get new passives
