New Fish Edition>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:Arbiter of Life and Death, Phyllisia - Until 10/14https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026091702/Founder of the Fallen Star, Arboris - Until 10/7https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026091002/>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:Guardian from the Shadows, Gerard - Until 9/30https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026090302/Flameblade of Revolt, Yoizou - Until 9/23https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026082702/>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/[More platforms] SteamOS/Linux workaround (the game still tries to delete itself)https://steamcommunity.com/app/2379740/discussions/0/583930834798645041/ASPD nerf - https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/news/2026082703/[More fishing] Silverscale Count’s Manor[Fire mage equipment] Cave of Malice update[September Roadmap] https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2094712279531180421>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>580945097
I'm not adding this to the OP or cloning the rentry to add itCompare your units to other players - https://www.daphne-checker.com/compare
benis! :-DDDD
>>581411017fugg
And then I said, 'Asha, that's not the new fire staff, I've got the clap!'
>>581411017"Flajj!! :DDD"
I'm sure it'll go away on its own; no need to pay a temple fee.
>>581410418Phyllisia‘S English voice isn’t too badI thought she would get female elf sabotage like Alice.https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2100497559152415198
>>581412472fugg it gan be :-DDD
>>581412847Alice says agora too much but I dont think the acting itself is badNow Rinne
>3 male banners>1 female bannerIs our space being invaded by women or homos?
>>581412520In 4 turns gwo will be stronger than ever!
I'm thinking I should just replace div% with flat aspd and call it a day?
>>581415291How low is your natural Div that 15% is not bigger than 8 flat points?
>>581416601tbf it won't matter which one he drops as long as he swaps a div to aspd, assuming he picked wrong he would lose what, 10~ points on a heal?
>>581416601flat is usually just better, so I assumed the same for Div. I typically don't even pay attention to that stat since it caps so fast.
>>581416601After refinement it will probably end up as +20 vs +20%, with flat being stronger. But he could low-roll the flat div which makes your suggestion better on casters but not fighters.
can someone paypal me 8k gems i spent them all on phil
>>581416863What is the cap for div anyway? Wondering if I should alter some of my priest/mages armor and weapons.
>>581416825Div also plays into things like accuracy of Marein and that one spell that deals a % of the target's HP so might as well mimax for the odd scenarios if it doesn't cost anything extra.>>581416863Flat was just plainly better in all cases for a long time but power has crept and it is now possible to get above 100 in stats. Flat enhance and rifine bonuses are bigger. In a world where you use a gameshark for a 5* red item flat can go up to +50 after FAS where % caps out at like 35 IIRC so that's a factor.
came back today. anything i should know and do? like a checklist maybe? or do i just go back straight to bounty hunting?
>>581414839This has always been a homo game
>>581417714I don't know what you missed because I don't know how long you've been gone. Endgame is currently>Fishing>Farm A4 for birdhat and chainmail>Farm alabaster for hunting gloves and boots>Farm Northcleft for generic silver tier things you need, like a 2H axe or a wand for your healer>Farm ninja cave or samurai island for respective gear if you use one of those classes
>>581410418I was hoping she would be more tree-ish and inhuman from her teaser but instead that was just part of a chair and she's a regular elf with a twig sticking out of her back. Sad!
>>581414839They are saving up for the anni character
>>581417185idk exactly, but most of the meta guys will say you almost hit cap just from the div on an upgraded weapon.
Are there any characters that actually want to learn eruption strike? Lvl 1 on MC, Chloe, Ainiggi, and Lana for the memes?Or is it legitimately better to turn him into bondmates for tags?
>>581420372When he finally gets an alt, you will regret your current actions
>>581420372it's pretty memeyfire fighter with a bonk stick should be fine for niche fire weak situationsI used to run it on ainiggi but now she's graduated to a GB brickhouse after I gave her the relic shield
>>581418753we are suffering from a fraud and poser epidemic so its not surprising.
>>581420372Teach Berk so she can bonk people with the new fire staff.
it's almost 2027 and drecum still hasn't fixed vitall the other stats have their uses
>>581420541>When he finally gets an alt, you will regret your current actionsHow so? He'll go from d9 to d10, and I'll merge into a new Gerulf that isn't 5bp or IQ boon.>>581420626I don't have Berk. I technically don't have Chloe either because she is trapped in the forever dispatch.
Do you anons run with a core set of party members?A fixed 6 member team sounds too inflexible between farming/bossing/environmental traps despite how cool it sounds
>>581421175Me, Yuzu, Abenius are core for me.
>>581421175Only thing really stopping you from doing it all is opening chests with enough detect and a decent amount of disarm, I think MC needs too many well nodes / bondmates / special equips to do it without sacrificing some bossing power, and all thieves suck
>>581421175I have Lana and Benis up front and Yuzu with MC at the back. I don't have any Rinne dupes yet, but Lana and Benis will get MoF if I do get any. My Masketta is a trap opener and support slut.The last 2 are flex spots, usually two from Berk, Chloe, Asha, and Yrsa depending on what I'm doing.
>>581421175My main core almost always works for bosses (Yek, Alice, Lana, Debra, Yuzu) but can be a bit weak on exploration. My farming core is only 3 members (Lana, Benis, Yuzu) with 2 flex slots depending on the situation.I'm always open to subbing in new members for certain fights (Lana, Yrsa, Alice, Rinne, Yuzu for the tonberry) (Prishe, Lana, Elise, Alice, Yuzu for sovereign demon) (Alice, Yuzu, Lana, Anemone, Asha for A4 true end)
>>581421175My good wives Lana and Benis are always with me. My evil mistresses are in the back, like Yuzu and Savia.
how are we looking on playtime swos?
>>581420372Build Gerulf
>>581421175Evil beastfolk core: Amelia Yuzu SaviaFlex: Shiou AliceI have several generics such as but not limited to; milana, asha, camille built up that I can swap in.I have cleared the whale cave but the core + 2 swaps can work pretty much anywhere
I think im going to roll for the elf.
>>581422368>I haven't cleared the whale cavewhoops
>>581422134
>>581421175As long as you hyper-invest, your core can handle basically anything outside of specific superbossesThat said I really wish raising characters wasn't such a commitment in this game.
>>581421175I have way too many invested characters since I like to use a variety of them, so I usually have alternatives depending on the situation. With that being said, having a hyper invested 6 man core is way better than my way of playing the game.
Dam i opened 3,000 junk from the collab and got like 4 useable purples but 2 of them are weapons I don't need.
>I only have MY PRECIOUS SERVANTSGet ichimonji'd nerd
>>581422134it was like 200 hours before the collab.oops.
>>581425634>>581425737
>>581421175benis and sheli are coreLinaria, too since she dropped. The way this woman immediately had me wrapped around her fingers should be studied. Technically I have 2 flex spots. 1 dps (shiou, prishe) and 1 extra support (ainiggy, healer)
>>581425881Yeah i don't have spectacle configured to automatically copy screenshots to clipboard because it freezes my computer.Anyway I maxed out the ranger spells because I like wasting resources on stupid shit. Please enjoy this comparison between MILWA LV3 off vs on.
>>581421175I swap between 12 but Rinne and Kiriha are almost always in my team
is it too late to get into this game
>>581426404Nah. Almost everything is permanent, and really the general adventurers are really good in a lot of cases.You missed the FFXI and Blade and Bastard collabs but all the characters from those kinda suck anyway.
>>581426404Not really, but if you are I'd wait a couple weeks because we have anni coming up and you might be able to do some rerolls for a busted character.
Currently, I've been running yeka priest and anemone backline because I don't really have a great backline dps. D4 merged yeka priest, and D2 anemone with her weapon. And still I'm tempted to roll this elf because I hate farming for anemone's gear and her health is low. And yeka is great but I want a good healer. I also have a spare Anemone to feed her buff to Phylissia, and books to level up the signature skills. I'd hate to have 3 healers but I have plenty of good melee frontliners to choose from and 70k gems saved.
>>581426404nyes
>>581426404Anni is coming up so not at all. Start today, clear A1, then buy a starter account and enjoy a fuckton of gems for whatever adventurers you want. The first year of this game was giga greedy and brutal. There's so much info and helpful shit now I sort of regret starting too early.
>>581426404nope. resources come slow but you get a few freebie legendaries and a selector very early. I think you can buy starter accounts for a few bucks?The only thing to know is you want to start the game on a phone so you can bind your google account. If you only play on steam you could lose it unless you're managing passwords, it's one of those.
>>581426404Least FOMO-y way of doing so is starting a fresh account, doing the first Abyss to learn the game and systems and get all of your mistakes out of the way, then buying a cheap chink-rolled starter account with ~60k gemmies on it (so you have enough to pull at least 3 limiteds you like) and a lot of tags (so you can level your party to cap comfortably without having to wait for Tag Events or having to Dismiss a lot of adventurers)inb4 whining from anons who want you to savor the timegating
>>581427139>Still advertising
>buy an accountHere we go...
>>581427467NTA it is different when the game has a password system. This isn't like getting someone elses email or something. It's just a code and you bind it to your email with no connection to the purchase. It's safe and I was fine doing it when I tried FGO.
Yes, yes. We know. You want to scam the newbie. Gwo you think we don't recognize you?
>>581427612>trying to explain things to 'got mine' boomersDon't bother
Don't buy a fucking account right before a prime reroll period. If you're going to buy an account do it afterwards when all the account sellers have the new meta units.
>>581428557This is true, but we're not THAT close. It's a month away
>>581428230i wish I wasn't so invested from a day 1 account I could have just bought a new one instead of slaving away at Tapjoy for 50 hours.
>>581428557why reroll when you could get 100 rolls worth of fodder on a new account and still have enough resources for 3 more full 100 rolls?
>>581428557I actually got burned by this before yuzu release since sellers bumped up the prices by $1 eachIt’s better to buy now but I’m slacking because I don’t want to login to 5~ accounts for the event logins
Holy shit just download the game and enjoy it like a normal person.
>>581429292>be a normalfag>t. anon
oh yeah i remember that one time anon bought like 5 reroll accounts and didn't get shit
>>581429292on a mongolian basket weaving forum discussing gachas?be real anon
>>581429623advertising isnt discussion you absolute faggot.
>>581429056Because you aren't paying a third world scam artist for it for one.
>>581426404no, try and go in as blind as possible story wise, the game has a learning curve in both gameplay and mechanics
>>581421175Gerulf, Sheli and Yuzu. The most pleasant evil niggas possible.
>>581412847huh.i think Alice is actually one of the better sounding and acted dub characters in the game.she sounds pretty much exactly how i would expect her to sound.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN’T PAY $3 FOR 50k GEMS>buy the passport with the $3 instead, 2k gems for logging in 30 days in a row is great value and extremely more generous than the other gacha games :)
You now remember this game has permadeath
>>581431884Real life has permadeath too but I don't spend every moment thinking about it.
What is the best alter for this? For Iarumas.
FINALLY IT HAS BEEN MONTHS
>>581431561>saaar saaaaaar please do the needful and redeem the account!
lvl 80 uncap syoon
>>581432406something into suretyprobably eva?
I don't think the new staff is enough to help against true end.I had 500 mag on a +15 staff and it was not enough for a no-synergy Asha to break the pillars in one hit.https://streamable.com/glqg9w
boon?
>>581436053Do we know what the deal is with the feathers? Is the tree turning her into a chicken?
>>581436302What if she's a chicken turned into an *lf?
>>581436053
>3 copies in 66 pullsHer gear doesn't look that great, i don't think it will be worth it to finish 100 for it. Should I just grab some scrolls and harken hooks?
>>581436505>hooks uselesseither get the leggo bone or grab the porto book
>>581436359I would pull her in that case, I fucken love chickens
I implore all good chads of this general not to let themselves be tempted by evil elf women
got it up ill be tempted by evil men instead
evil women are made to be conquered
neutral men
>>581437443I feel pretty neutral about them.
>>581437443they're just kinda there
Lot of Evil female Elves, so the BTDE will surely be Good (for my penis).
>>581438024just like fairygwo you will warpjd demands it
>>581437443yes
>>581438193I don't see BTDE needing exclusive gear. But if that came to pass, I would accept it for no setback diminish my love if big chocolate elf milkers.
so if we are building new mages / priest / healers from scratch, luck > spd now?
>>581438729why do you say that?
>>581438845something about aspd falling off idk
>>581438930the nerf still doesn't really matter when you have less than 150 aspd and also stacking a bunch of buffs on top or something
>>581439126prishe looks so fucking funny
all done
Do I need to pull dupes off phyllisia and her special weapon or is she good with just the one of her?
>>581440990One is fine. Weapon isn't needed. Dupes help give her more hp, and if you want to merge her later you will need D1. It's a real bastard.
>>581440990so far the only weapons you need have been cuisinart (obsoleted), raven dagger and yuzu hairpineveryone is fine at 1 copy. Use exp books if the signature skill is good
>>581438235I look like this but ghoulish human and wearing a golden mask
>>581441435arguably hairpin is the only mandatory weapon so far.
>>581439126don't pull don't pull don't pull. only a few weeks until anniversary.
you have enough to spare right? 2 sparks at least? Roll the elf
>>581441435world prishe weapon count due to cetus farming being harsh?
>>581442510cetus farming is harsh? Not sure about now but iirc the junk rates hasn't changed that much if at all in the collab castle. Shouldn't be hard to get something good for her
>>581441943i'm safe.
>>581442510i got her weapon because i didn't want to farm it out. 2k event junk and I didn't have enough for a full unify, only a 4* blue as my best as well. Godhand blows it away.
>>581441943shes very cutejust do a tenner...
>>581410418bwos... Drecum is going all in the inmersion with full 4d experience cabinets:https://x.com/denfaminicogame/status/2100426876280062104
>>581444712>lulu just phasing in instead of flash flipping youcensored risk
>>581442694I'm at 51k and i'm hesitant
>get phyllisia>can't use 2h staffehh...?
>>581446492healers only use 1h staves. They don't really need 2h staffs
Finished blowing through my final 750 pickaxes for absolutely fuckall
>>581444712>they spent money and time on this shit instead of working on abyss 5grim
went down from 7k gems to 400 gems but got a 8bp neutral copy of the new elf... i hope i don't get punished for blowing my stash early...
>>581446970>healers only use 1h stavesHehehe, oh boy do I got just the short staff for the job!
>>581447542This but Final fantasy collab and fishing
I can already SEE the cope post about the anniversary unit by those who blew their load on the bait elf.
>>581447917>he doesn't have another loadI'm sitting on 25k after the elf absolutely FUCKED me. I think between the monthly reset and income + inevitable mailbox + daily logins I can squeeze in another for the anni banner(s)
>>581446970To be honest, neither should mages/priests. At this point the extra speed you can get on a shield is probably more useful than more magic or divine unless you are specifically trying to pump for a4 true end's gwo.
>>581447610pwo...
>>581448112priests are fair game, but mages might still want the big staves for the little damage of their aoe, since the small bump scales with enemies hit and fights designed around mages tend to have certain breakpointsalso better debuffing chances
I'm just full of loads. The Big Titty Dark Elf is going to drown.
>>581448516Big tiddy dork elf's alt is right there gwo. Bare chested and ready to rock.
>>581448571Feels like we're going to start getting 2nd alts before a single BTDE at this point. Always just shy, but not quite. Truly a cursed combination.
>>581447917>I can already SEE the cope post about the anniversary unit by those who blew their load on the bait elf.how thoanother new class? we already have so many in terms of gameplayaesthetics i guess? what is something 40 year old japanese salarymen really WANT that aren't in yet?
i want nyontents
>>581449015>what is something 40 year old japanese salarymen really WANT that aren't in yet?Lulunarde
>>581449015Monk is basically guaranteed as a new class given that Prishe is currently the only character that can use Cesti.
>>581447917Flat elf is hotter, unless the anni unit is even flatter. Not like I blew my stash regardless since I got her on the first tenner
>>581449015actually, maybe a princess character?i looked at japanese fans voting their favorite dragon quest characters for reference.
>>581450379We already have a princess at home and she won all 3 popularity polls last year.
I just noticed but why are my dude's arms like a dried up prune?
>>581450824Gwo? You are a fucking ghoul.
>>581412847Alice is fine full schizo Qt. Agora is even better
>>581450824You are also smelly and a manlet, that's why no one has a good first impression of you.
>>581421175I have 26 copper grade characters and 21 steel. Rest in Iron. Most are dual classed. Most are 3 to 6 discipline. Sure I have core but honestly use what team comp I want.
>>581422134Over xxxx hours on Steam. But before that I played on emu and after that I play on tablet so maybe like a lot
>>581427428He is right tho. 10bucks in game give you like what? 4k gems in cheapest pass? You can get starter with 20x times more gems plus tags and bones for that. It's not even a competition. And not mention that dreadcum in their amazing wisdom reduced amount of resources for starting accounts to almost nothing, compared with when game started
>>581429869It's not a scam when the goods are delivered tho. At worst he is a black marketer.
>>581410418>New evil elf bitch healer uses AI art The absolute fucking state of drecom
>>581454324They were using AI art since Marianne alt if not before.
>>581450379>No lolis in the selection Rigged
If I pulled this elf character, I should skip linaria rerun?Do teams need two buffers?
newfag herei sear hed on google and couldnt find a proper answerdo i just allocate bonus stats depending on the adventurer's class?so if they are fighter, go all in on str and if they are a thief, go all dex and so on forth?
>>581456230SPD is still the safest choice for all.Str for physical damage dealers like fighters, thieves(lel), ninjasLcl for meme knightsDex for rangersNever ever Vit for anyone.
>>581456230>FighterStr, or luck for auto attack farmer>Thief/NinjaStr>Mage/Priest/HealerSpeed, or iq/pie>KnightLuck>RangerDex>SamuraiStr if odachi, IQ if dalto/hybrid caster, else speed
Why doesn't makalki work against the yeti breath? Is it getting used up by the snowstorm freeze? Monumentally retarded if so
>>581457068It worked fore back then. I guess it shoot like 4 different aliments at the same time and makaliki protect from max 2
>>581443773>neutral man cringe.jpgkek
>>581449015gee I wonder
Where the fuck are the lolis japan
Timing of the manga has me thinking anni will be her.
>>581458372What is she? What class?
>>581458372It better fucking not be.
but you know, nothing is stopping them from making yet another princess okhow about princess fairy? even furtherprincess fairy ninja!
>>581458372Will she be another good fire woman?
>>581456975>>581457060thank youbut what's wrong with thieves (i just started this game an hour ago)
>>581458834Beastfolk queen.
>>581459303They are fine and you want to have some to open chests but they fall in damage late
>>581459303Fall off late, but having a hyper invested thief is still ok and some can be salvaged (like Debra). Honestly on the first 2 Abysses don't worry too much. As for BP, Speed is always good, Fighters want Strength, Knights Luck, Rangers Dexterity, Healers Speed, Thieves either Speed or Strength, Ninjas Strength, Mages Speed (except Asha and some legendaries who go for IQ), Priests Speed, Samurai Speed. Never ever put a single point into VIT or PIE. Don't Discipline or inherit anything until you hit Abyss 3 (except Heavy Attack and general adventurer passives on your MC).
>>581459303Same thing that's wrong with priest, mage, knight, ninja, or ranger. They aren't fighter, samurai, or healer.
Doing the "Rebuild Rockhome" quest for the first time and the wolf encounter fucked me up royally and I still spy 2 more like it around. Do you always encounter 3 or did I got screwed up by RNG.
how do I respawn the sword fiend again? no way I have to do the whole quest chain again right
>>581464392You just need to wheel back and then can just beeline to him.
>>581465473thanks kwoseems like it will take a while to get even one oni katanya, but at least its kinda easy
>>581466561I know you're trying to be cutesy and catpost but it is important that you know it is not a katana. It is an odachi. No bamboo splitter allowed.
>>581466736okyay nwo.
What inherits do healers want?
>>581450379Alena doesn't win popularity polls because she's a princess, she wins them because she's insane.
>>581463686If you are struggling with the 3 big wolf encounters in the first round of battles, just give up. You won't be beating the 2 cyclops encounters in the last round of battles.
So, how is the new loli Elf?
>>581468310Abit, the healer's debuff cleaner is ass (single target at the same cost of Abit)also Porto
>>581470361Same stats as Camille, so the meta is going to be determined by healer CCs. Linaria healer would probably be the best one.
>>581471154>Same stats as Camille??? No. Higher base IQ due to dark typing and higher stat growth numbers due to being legendary.
What bonus stats do I give to the tree elf?
>>581472962SPD
>>581472962Speed. Move faster than the enemy to put out an incense, move faster than your attacker to put a seed on them.
>>581471485Show me a meaningful stat difference between generals and legendaries before high discipline.Generals usually have an edge because they easily d6 while limited banners are stuck at d0
>>581469456Yeah, I didn't even reach them. The 3x Big Yeti fights routed me.
>>581473626>move faster than your attacker to put a seed in them.Whoa.....
Cunny sells
>>581475643The power of the (ToT) UOOOOOOOHH
>>581445773you should be.
>>581412520wish i could draw, i just want Aldric's crow perched on Philly wing
>>581444712I saw that and also think it looks really cool. I could set up a wizardry room in the house just for me and Yu- the squad.
Lolis won, old hags lost
>>581447917the ff11 units were the bait tho
elf is cute, but it's too close to anni for me not to see her as a gem drainer.only people winning right now are people who pulled her with free bones.
>>581479063I was thinking last night Milana is actually cuter than I remembered. Maybe the HD models got updated or something at some point.
>>581476656So why you are posting old hag?
Where is this cope that Linaria get healer come from?
>>581480496it would make her ability to act twice be much more powerful since she can spam incense in her off turns.
>>581480496it was major cope but now we have an evil healer which means healer cc isn't alignment locked and so it's possible could get oneranger, ninja or healer are all good ccs for her >so knowing JD it will probably be priest or something
i like the Milana booth girl.
So does this mean it is supposed to be it's own permanent buff?
>>581485468No, it means it's bugged and pushing off a support effect even while you only have 3 total with the flower when it transforms
>>581485468No it means the seed and flower buffs apply at the same time briefly, pushing whatever else you have off.
>>581485468If Flower Imperishable isn't suppose to disappear, it would mention "Flower Imperishable", not "one support effect".To me, it sounds like Flower Imperishable is added before Encroachment is removed, so if you already have 2 other buffs, the game will kick one of them out since there would be a split second when Flower Imperishable and Encroachment exists and taking up 2 buff slots instead of 1.
wow flaming heart after just GWO 1 and 2.
>>581475218is this the new anti rape meta
>>581480496nothingthe chance of her getting healer is just as high as literally any other class because jd just flips a coin and decide on vibes. If she lands healer, ranger or ninjer it wouldn't be bad at all, but definitely healer as the meta roll
>>581475643so her name really is felicia
>>581489017If you're retarded, yes.
>>581489178why are you mad?
>>581489606Nobody's mad, just stating facts. You'd have to be retarded to think her name is Felicia. Grass is green, the sun rises in the East, and her name is Phyllisia. That's how facts work.
i finally got samurai Iarumas to lvl 70. How do I use this class?
>>581492618dismiss for tags and level a fighter
>>581492618bamboo splitter on repeat
behold the art of a kotbe kot downbe struc meown
katanya
why did her alt have to be dogshit
>>581492618You give up halfway through the gearing process. It is pretty much fairy tier to get them the stats they need to hit higher "effective attack" than just a regular old fighter with a good attack stat, so the advantage just becomes access to bamboo splitter for most which requires you to be in cresting wave which is a whole other problem.
I love Phylissia so much bros
>>581492618Bench him until you get the class change.
>>581494962samurai of black rod is the class change you mean alt form I guess?
>>581410418Is the HIV elf worth pulling if I don't have a healer leveled?
>>581496615She's strong, more HP than anemone, very very fast. Strong pull, I like EN voice too.
>>581493982>>581492618It's funny as I was going to ask what's good stats for decent attack damage. Started using Shiou again just because and I need to gear her up, haven't used since A3, and her attack is okay, about 5/6 k with level 3 bamboo splitte, no buffs, but no where near the damage I see some post.
>>581493982how am i doing so far?
>>581496615Probably. You should reasonably have a healer leveled, there are just certain fights where they are the make or break either because of status spam or reactive healing helping with out of turn reactions. All 3 have ups and downs. If you use or plan to use either Alice row buff, HIV elf is worth just because evil. If not, there is an argument to be made to just go Camille for general adventurer pull rates and therefore discipline, but even with that considered there is advantage to new girl even just for her self heal and ignoring the somewhat controversial flower ability.
>>581498123How do you actually heal with a healer? I end up inheriting and using madios most of the time.
>>581495343>>581497778The class change of Iarumas is "Samurai of the Black Rod".In my opinion Iarumas works better as a samurai with spells that the weird fighter-mage hybrid of his base class.
>>581497491>>581497778It's less about hitting some raw number and more that pretty most gear you find and think would be good on your samurai would be even better on a fighter. a 4* silver weapon that you FAS into an attack roll will average towards 30. To meet that and make your samurai hit as hard as a fighter you need a combined total of 45 attack+magic attack. So if you roll a gear with both attack and magic, it will on average let you hit a combined total of 60 which is an effective attack stat of 39 or about 30% stronger than the fighter, but good luck rolling both. The does let them take better advantage of things like the master ring and lets them get a better bondmate setup though.
>>581498592>inheriting and using madiosThis is a pretty big part of it, desu. The row reactive heal kinda sucks but the single target one is pretty good if you can target attacks onto one character like a knight or even a samurai using ichimonji.
Has anyone seen numbers on leveling up the seed yet? Also I have anemone I'm thinking about letting Phylissia eat. Anyone got numbers for the inherited attack up?
you look like you're at death's door
>>581499713From what I can tell, there is a flat component of the buff that kinda skews the results making it a larger % boost to low damage numbers either from being lower level/undergeared and/or high hitcount attacks. There also seems to be a softcap of how much extra damage it will give you. For napkin math purposes though you can guess that level 1 will be about a 20% boost at full bloom up to about 40% as you go through the levels.
>>581500676>infinite 20% after 4 turnskinda good
>>581501047It is, plus Yuzu and Prishe will get more out of it. The downside is that you have to take 3 attacking actions. It will buff you by 15, 10, or even just 5% if you lose turns to paralysis or stun or even having to swap positions or heal. The other thing is that it will fall off if you die so it will happen to you one day that you set up the full 20% bloom and then get turbo tageted or hit with a crit and you just have to start it all over
>>581501573seems like going immediately into porto or getting naked after the buff is the obvious play.
>>581503584heck, you want to stay naked and porto'd even after the buff transforms since the one problem with turnmaxxing is that your buffs fall off too quickly. They probably preemtively nerfed this strat
which daphne would lick the sweat and smegma off of your dick with a smile on her face?
Why are the Japs like this
>>581504746Don't know but I know which one would lick peanut butter off my balls.
>>581505672Careful. He might try to decapitate the head.
What is your wish for the anni legendary? I have plenty of front liners, healers, mages. What I don't have is another great backline dps. I kind of doubt they will do it twice in a row either. Ranger just isn't strong enough. If it's not a backliner idk how they could tempt me to roll when my lana is d5 almost 700 hp as a fighter now.
>>581504746Yuzu with the right pricewouldn't be the first time she did it
>>581505991damn didnt know he was like that
>>581506957backline GOOD woman that has anti synergy with evil metakeks like alice and yuzu. DPS is good too. Perhaps a new class or a juiced ranger the way yuzu is a juiced ninja because haha fuck the class just use the new shiny limited.
>>581506957A mage that actually does damage.
>>581506957New class or a samurai that is actually as good as masketta
>>581506957MC ranger is gonna be nuts so I don't really care about backline DPS muchI don't really want powercreep anyway, just something fun would be nice
I got a 4* atk atk% purple bow and it's not even an upgrade for Yrsa. Is accuracy and aspd the only stats that matter for ranger at all? Atk is just a dead stat?
>>581507962having ranger MC being cracked doesn't really invalidate another strong backline dps tho
>>581508446ranger damage is 1 part atk and 2 part acc by default and I think some skills even double dip that formula so yea, atk is pretty dead. People planning to use the relic bow for rangers would even alter away the atk lines
>>581508446Not totally dead, but accuracy is a much much bigger deal. Multiply your accuracy by 1.5, then cut your attack stat in half. Those two numbers put together are your real/effective attack value.
>>581507253Yuzu is already a juiced ranger too. What we need is a mage that can actually do damage.
>>581510041that's fair yeah. Juiced mage is a niche we kinda need, last time they tried it was... Erwin?
>>581510175i am still of the opinion they make a mage with spell uses exactly like the old wizardry games. Let them be OP but much more limited.
>>581507253>Very meta good backlinerAlice just moves to the frontline, Lana replaced with Gerulf and Yuzu continues her backline supremacy.
>>581507436I don’t want mage damage being unit specific, just give them new elemental spells that are equivalent to ESS ST and AoE at 80 cap.
>>581512306mage attacks are supposed to be three times as powerful and 10 times as rare as warrior attacks.
>>581512306people ask why I hate yuzu and this is pretty much why. She isn't good because she's a ninja, she's good because her gacha equipment is busted and she has an unique skill that isn't in the same playing field.
>elf loli's buff falling off is a bug
>>581513159Illiterate anon, this was already explained up the threadYou are being double brown
>>581507962yeah but MC ranger still poses a lot of squad problemsfor farming sure you can do your 3x whatever frontline + ranger mc yuzu alice backlinebut for anything where you need 2 supports then what? frontline MC ranger?
>>581492618I use cresting wave > bamboo splitter most of the timeHe has the mage CC spells so pretty useful when you need additional CC on top of your mage, also malefic windif unsure what to do just spam your quickdraw or fist of god every turn
>>581515068Frontline Mc ranger with raven dagger will be a strong DPS. It is much easier to hit 400 accuracy than 600x3 attack.
Trying to use life siphon on Phyllisia, it's listed as a spell but it's always missing?
>>581517509>it's listed as a spellIt is not.
>>581517683okay I mean i know it's a skill but look at the wording. it IS a spell.
>>581515068If you need 2 supports for something like Godefroi I'd just drop Yuzu for a healer. Otherwise MC can CC to priest temporarily and be a good all around caster.
>>581517898That is just saying that it checks against enemy MDEF when figuring damage, other abilities like fist of god use the same wording.
>>581518118I'm not saying ranger MC won't be strong but I feel like for the average player its gonna be more of a hassleI'd have to drop yuzu which is arguably my best build DPS in the back to place MC in, then replace MC with a less inherited fighter who's going to be more prone to dying due to lack of inheritsor drop Alice with her level 5 inherit who can apply 6 turns of buff to swap MC to priest? for general farming sure, he'd work better than a thief and actually do damage and do your chests
Finally... it's time.
>>581518952that is kinda a (you) problem. Your high investment team works until they don't, then you'll have to play with what the fight is actually designed around even if it's less than ideal in terms of potential power. If you don't need to swap around your giganiggas then... don't. It's an option for the people who don't have the same stuff or just want novelty. It's still a game at the end of the day. You want to beat it, and you want to have fun doing it.
>>581518952You wouldn't be dropping Yuzu for most content at least. I only need 1 support most of the time and in the case you'd definitely drop Yuzu you don't even want her, going max DPS hurts you against Godefroi. Hell I first beat it with 3 support backline (no healer).Frontline could be anything really, I feel like it's pretty easy to get multiple heavily invested frontliners without even considering MC. Great legendary fighters, general fighters you should have a ton of discipline for, samurai, knights, Prishe, etc. There's much more competition there I feel.
>>581519158first loop?
>>581515068I already balance my party around MC backline, its a business as normal>>581518952Thats a you problem.A problem you created for yourself that you have to solve.
they need to let you save auto presets and have better control of your autos... something like the triggers for priests doing either heals or attack but you actually get to pick what they do when [x] condition is met would be great. Would remind me of the old Dragon Age games.
>>581519314>>581519360funnily enough I did bring yuzu to 3 of my godefroi kills and she spent all 3 of those fights on the ground following the first or 2nd turn I will be trying again for true end at some point, and I do wanna bring her and leave her dead just to see if I can go 4/4
>>581519158>CAW CAW CAW
>>581519697yeah
>>581506957Backline good/neutral character that does surety buff like Rinne
so how fast can I get through the 2nd and 3rd runs of A4 before the true end bricks me for another year?
just got my ass beat by Snow Wolf Leaderand this nigger in here posting spoilers
>>5815217622 is very easy (the fight too is arguably easier)>couple hours at best3 and 4 will take you a while
spoilers? Its been over 9 months you bum
I don't get it, does Drecom not have a QA team? It's like every update they release has bugs or does not work as they intended. I wouldn't be surprised since they won't even hire an illustrator for their 2D banner art.
>>581524464They must have something or they wouldn't have a known bugs list going out with the patch. Huge improvement over year one, really
>>581524464you would be shocked how many gacha games are like this. It's just the way things are now. Been like this for years and years. I played a small franchise gacha and the discord was full of bug reports and the whale players pretty much informing the devs how the game actually plays lol. Getting fixes a week after a banner is quite typical.
Im liking the new healer.
I'm not picking berries again fuck a4
>>581533247you dont need to after the first loop
>>581426404Probably better to get into this game late. Normal legendaries are your core team and the game is generous with them. If you are not a whale or dolphin just figure out what kind of characters you want before hand keep in mind this is the one game many normal characters are good. You will be gated out of the most unique weapons though but that is a money sink when end game is gear grind and anyone can get equally good performing weapons + on average way better due to merges.
Amelia alt and sexy fairy / booba elf please Anni.
Will they rerun Yuzu's banner on the anni?
If the anniversary unit is a male or ugly I'm quitting again, abyss 3 is gay
>>581540024>t. raped by cyclopes
>>581540024>anni unit is male>you skipped the cute healer elf for him
>>581540024It is gay, but youre kind of expected to farm up gear in seperation cave or possibly during a collab before you clear it. After beating the necrocore boss you kind of just need to grind xp for a while and get some upgraded 2h weapons on your frontline. If you can do that the GWO dies pretty fast.
>>581540345I need to see the full webm now
>>581540481
anons pulling now will miss out on halloween shelidon't do it
Yeka is my mage not Sheli. Crazy how good the launch legendaries were. I wasn't predicting that adam would just stay as inherit fodder for his passive. I think my Adam is D2 from launch lol.
>>581542502It's pretty rare for light and dark to be the worst elements in a gacha, and adam is hit especially hard by it.
>98th pull
>>581543391People dog on Adam way too much, he's not as frail as you'd think because of his own inherit and his alt's is a nice buff to Prishe/Benis. The only reason he's 'bad' is because everyone wants his inherit but he's perfectly usable.
>>581543617If I remove the branch will she die?
>>581543617Explode. Whats the fort and the stats on the shirt?
>>581543810forsooth?
>>581543391Dark is a very good element since a good chunk of monsters uses dark attacks.the only relevant enemy that uses Light attacks is Godefroi
>>581543935Fort 100
>>581543810The problem with him is in addition to a bad element he just doesn't do anything(aside from be fodder). He does no damage because mages need to cast into a weak element to do anything and you are never gonna bring a light into a dark fight, especially not a fucking elf and unlike yek or alice who bring team utility he doesn't. He isn't unplayable, but he is worse than basically every other mage.
>>581544371>he is worse than basically every other mageBut his lore is literally billions must die.
>>581543617Thank you for supporting the servers oji-san.
I still don't understand how elements work in this game, or how I would know what element the enemy is. I just ignore the mechanic entirely.
>>581544223Explode 2 more times. Congrats tho, I'd probably LFAS the shirt till I get aspd and then alter to another aspd
>>581545294
I'm going to laugh when the anni unit just isn't something I need and I pull yuzu banner for more dups.
>>581544371>never going to bring a light to a dark fightI was farming the FF event with AltBenis+AltAdam and they were shredding the 8 demons with aurora bow wide volley and lucent maforos. Adam himself was doing most of the damage to the FF boss during his physical immune phase. I admit I haven't gotten around to Morgus yet but I am planning to bring both him and Benis to see how well they do, maybe I'll be humbled there but we'll see.That aside even against non-dark enemies he works fine as a support, mage/priest is never a bad cc combination to have. Of course he'll never match Alice's level of turn economy or Sheli's MP sustain but I'm just saying he's fine, not nearly as bad as people seem to think.
>>581545294It's easy there is dark Vs light - each hurt each other more and hurt themselves less. Aka light hit dark extra and hit light less. And there is fire beat wind, wind beat earth, earth beat water and water beat fire. Element that beat other element give extra DMG and suffer less DMG from it.For element to give extra DMG you need to attack weak one with elemental weapon or a spell, then if you attack say water with earth character wielding earth weapons you do double bonus DMG and if you attack with other than earth but with earth weapon or spell you do extra x1 DMG. There are also resistance you gain from equipment and skills. For example Eldorado can get extra dark resist from his mage passive and so he is best dark knight even if he is filthy tree huger.
>>581547123He is also very classy. Something that both sheli and Alice(evil whores) lack.
>>581543617did you dump 10 bp into iq or spd
>>581547008>not already having a high discipline yuzu
>>581547515See that second part. That's the bullshit. To get extra damage I need to use an elemental weapon. My characters element doesn't make them do extra damage with heavy attacks alone. But those are the hardest weapons to farm by far. Literally nobody is swapping out their weapons for different content. I love this game and the junk system but the rates are way too low to even be enjoyable. They could 10x the rates and it wouldn't be enough for all the unifying and different weapon types you need. It's incredibly unfun.
>>581548712I got d2 and her pin in 100 pulls when she came out. Couldn't really afford more until tapnou came along.
>>581548763Samurai chads win again.
>>581547123Adam worked in the collab because the enemies were dark but did not use dark attacks>I admit I haven't gotten around to Morgus yet but I am planning to bring both him and Benis to see how well they doThey instantly die turn 0 due to dark weakness.
>>581548591mostly spd but 2 pts into IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4UEJqN5Fr4music for the soul
>>581548763I do. Have full sets of anti beast and anti undead weapons. Some light one, earth weapons and earth team used to carry me in A2 back when one handed swords were meta. But yeah just leveling silver 2 handers now is enough.
>>581543617>98th pullthis is my nightmare and why i won't pull
>>581543883It would be extremely painful...
>>581552730I rolled 160 times for Alt Abenius and didn't get her a single time (had to pity her and use the Arena coins to get her to D1 for the Merge). I also didn't roll a single Legendary within those rolls.
>>581543617she can't sleep on her back
did the new elf healer turn out to be good? did the japanese autist whales do testing or whatever? still not pulling for her btw
How do you farm the bird helmet on A4? I've been farming floor 4 for hours and haven't spotted a single one. Does the ranger spell that shows an enemy help with it?
>>581554286>without factoring in her buffThe best healer, but incrementally so and not worth rolling just for being a minor upgrade.>considering her buff(only active in long fights)The best healer by a long shot, but obviously 4 turns is a long time to wait. It's a pretty significant buff especially to multi hit stuff when you can get it active though.>thinking only with your dickSEX SEX SEX MATING WITH FLAT ELFS
>>581544371Adamcopers can't stand the fact that he's legitimately from a cost opportunity perspective the worst character to invest to in the game. His inherit is just too valuable, and as a mage he's outclassed by almost every legendary and half of all general adventurers.
adam is the GOAT at farming undead march
wow i suck at fishing. i can't catch any large fish.
>>581556183Nah. Don't care.
>>581543617She was literally 1st pull for me lmao
>>581521863Many such casesEven the fasterthoughts trannies try to spoil you immediately with the A3 guide
they had a lord of the rings genocide elf and they named the fucker Adam instead of some hoity-toity tree hugger shit. him being fodder was written in the stars
>>581558476Thankfully they let you rename units, Adam needs a new identity to hide his genocidal past.
i love fishing
I kinda fucked up by renaming the new elfHow the hell are you supposed to remember the name… phyllis something ?
where are you guys farming insect bait?
>>581560391the translation fucked up. It should be Felicia or Phyllis witch are both a type of flower
>Spent 1 hour grinding cave of malice while watching jewtube videos>10k currency + 7 fey junkMan...
>>581560871you could have been fishing
>>581560871that's actually very goodswos don't remember sand shadow farming where you'd be lucky to get 1 fey junk per week and currency gave you nothing
I'm trying to get back into the game after dropping it midway through A4 but it's hard.For a change of pace I wanted to try the samurai quest but I got bodied 3 times by the oni and it's a pain in the ass I can't use flame.Have I fallen completely out of love or is there something that could make me want to stick to it? I've played 330 hours btw
>>581566402What's your team? Honestly team building and having a specific build to aim for is the most fun I'm having with the game post-clearing all the available content. Anni is coming soon so why not play it casually, save up and see if you get something you like?
>>581567131Pretty basic bitch core team. I got excited about having Kagero with his signature weapon and decent discipline but with my MC already ninja he doesn't feel very useful.I've got 31k gems and log on every week to get the bonuses but no characters so far have really made me want to roll.
>>581567250Need a knigga for oni, unless that's what your Chloe is.
>>581567843Yeah she is right now, I'm spamming knight's defense but she still gets bodied in one hit and the otehr too. That boss's damage is way overtuned
>>581567250Man you have a good ass team, Oni shouldn't be an issue. Like the other anon said get a knight to spam KD every turn. If you're using a good frontline Kagero isn't worth it, but Rinne+Kagero frontline is legit (you can get her from Bones II). Ninjas need a ton of investment so do consider that you already have Yuzu and then decide between one of the 2, though Kagero is a ninjato frontliner instead. As for Oni just put your MC in the backline, you shouldn't use him as a ninja for that fight.
>>581568169Thanks anon, I'll try these tactics.
>>581567250>>581567947I would bring Eulalia as a knight. Also remember to equip 1-2 pieces of water gear on the MC. If you have seaform armor for eulalia she can do all around cover and table multiple hits without breaking a sweat. Makes for a completely different experience and trivializes the fight.
>>581567947Following what anon said, the oni is VERY vulnerable to speed control. Baltigref plus chrono (maybe even twice) gives you a surprising amount of room. Also keep the hobbers asleep, might need katino 3 to be consistent though.
>>581568593>>581568486Thanks for the great tips. I don't have Eulalia built but I have some water gear. I'll try again with fighter MC in backline as soon as Chloe gets resurrectedIt's a shame I can never really do a good front backline though, I hope there'll be less evil adventurers in the future
>>581567250Dredcum just released a Evil Healer that doesn't upset Alice, you can try to get her and cheese whit Life Binding your MC Knight
>>581570594
WHEN IS NYABYSS 5 NYUS I WANT NYONTENTS IN MY BELLY NYOW NYOW NYONTENTS HUNGRY IN BELLY NYOOOOOOW NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Remember to ignore and report off-topic shitposters as spam.
>>581570594this character looks so out of place
>>581571667the kotposter was asking about abyss 5 news and you are just begging for reportsthat would make you the one posting off-topic shitironic huh?
>>581571940It's the panties. She shows off her panties at the camp if you put her back left.
>dwarf 5 cave mob hphope they dont patch this but nice tech
>>581572061>5I dont know where the "5" came from. Must have hallucinyated it while typing
>>581572061>56k for the greater nigga>2 of them are mandatory for the good endingnigger that's already half the HP of the dragon not to even mention the fucking hobbers at 16k HP a pop
>>5815720614 times the hp of a4 goblin archer is hilarious Cant wait for a5 so we can get another whale cave that balloons health way to high.
>>581572275This cave came about solely because of whales crying everything was too easy for them.
>>581572395and there are whales already 1 turning the dragon while I can't even get to itit's so fucking over for me
>>581572470>1 turning the dragonI haven't seen anything like that. Link?
>>581570834Thanks, now i can't unsee
>>581572687https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9R-3Z4urvAto be fair this was before the ASPD nerf
>>581505349i don't get it
do u gwos think the arena will ever return? i liked the announcer guy
>>581573427yes but castle ruins is as dead as the new abyss coming out this year
>>581560391It's Phyllisia, which is exactly how we would Romanize the Greek Φυλλίςία with Φυλλίς meaning "foliage" and ία in this context meaning "abnormal condition." She is genuinely called tree disorder in doctor language, because she's a doctor with a tree disorder. It's not exactly artful, but anybody trying to sell you on the idea of her being Felicia which derives from the Latin "felix" is just parroting Google trying to sound out a translation of a translation or even just following the example of some other anon making the same mistake. What gets lost in that whole Greek to Japanese to English pipeline though is that the Greek (correct) pronunciation has the emphasis on the first vowel sound with the Latin/wrong/Felicia pronunciation putting it on the second vowel. Her English VA actually uses the correct pronunciation when you pull her which should have put the whole thing to bed right away, but here we are.
literally me on the right...
>>581505349>why are women like thisftfy
>>581410418HOLD THE FUCK UPWHEN DID MY CUTE SMOL GF GOT HER SECOND JOB OMG CUTE CUTE CUTE!!!111
>>581573529This will be funny because a5 wilk ve all undead. We'll find Lulu's corpse and she will suck so much vitality out of the ghul meat that we'll burst and reform agsin as a human. Sex scene costs 2000 erin though sorry f2p
New chapter ripped and uploaded, sorry for delay. https://mega.nz/folder/Q0N1jT7J#uHQrWvnKK89Up4_-y8dZcA
>>581575482How do you even take those screenshots?
>>581576285They haven't reach the Scorpioness yet... This manga is taking too long man.
>>581573383It became a meme to post that screenshot of Camille and a bitchy comment with it.Don't think too hard about it.
>>581576285>webpiss
>>581506957Priest or mage with out of combat MP recovery by movement or something
>>581578048idk, this is the guy taking these:https://x.com/Nighcisa/status/2101218770308190211japenis in general are fairly autistic in screenshot culture
>>581579249You used to be able to bug out characters and leave them standing in the field in their menu pose pretty easily. They fixed the easy ones, but people probably found more.
>>581579463Happened to me by total accident a couple weeks ago and jump scared me.
I wish other caves give as much currency as the Cave of Malice
>>581578638Sadly, there was no alternative on official site.
ASPD and Porto nerfs are basically a nothing burger for 99% of players.https://x.com/NOBU1358943/status/2101280718928396421Basically just prevents you from taking 4 or more actions per round.
>>581576285Is the girl (I don't know her name) supposed to be a Valkyrie?
>starts on ff11 collab>puts in 150 hours>leaves negative review because muh ai
>revive Benis>Coming Mother!F
>>581586735B453d 45 h311
>>581586735We all know JD was one of the first to hop on that AI art train, but this review is basically worded as "They might maybe have possibly used AI, at least to a limited extent. Therefore BAD! Apologize! You tainted this legendary series I had never heard of!" which is the mostly hilariously reddit libshit retard take I've encountered in a long time.
>>581587432I find AI use in art not welcomed but in gacha especially it's despicable. Like there are bozos who spend hundreds of real money for pulls and JD can't afford some guy to draw it?It's not even being cheap. It's like being retardadly cheap and personally offensive. Just fucking vile. But well, that is the world today.
>>581587432if you're a FFXI player as the dude claims he's probably 30-35 which means Wizardry isn't a "legendary series you've never heard of"meanwhile it's also very plausible to have never heard of this game in the west because the marketing they do is nonexistant
>>581587979Don't get me wrong, I am anti AI in a broad sense and I think it is especially bad in art and especially especially bad in art as a corporate product. I just think the strong stance against it with the "well I don't even really know that it's AI, but someone said it might be" is just a hell of a combo.
>>581588567the 6 finger alice alt art was pretty much a confirmation if we ever needed onealso their actual art needs in this game are almost non existant, there's one static image per legendary adventurer and maybe a couple extra assets here and there, nothing that 1 actual drawfag couldn't handle but it is what it is
>>581587979>>581588567>>581589461
>>581588567I don't like AI because you shouldn't be cutting corners on something easy to commission like art. The people shitting on a game for using it and then justifying why its okay when something they like uses it piss me off so much.
How good as Abiros' new jacket? Has chest stats and attack.
>>581592002That's pretty much I'm at with AI. It is just actively broadcasting to people "I am specifically looking to put in the least amount of effort I can get away with" and to a certain extent, that's what we've been doing with all trades and industries for all of human history because work smarter, not harder and profit margins and all that but it is different with AI that makes the minimum effort part so much more blatant. It is some special fucked up combination of half-assing and outsourcing to get the worst of both worlds for extremely short sighted reasons.
my theory is that they do the 3d model first and then toss it into ai to shit out a splash art
The West (and Japan) is in collapse and is in the process of being looted by the tiny hat tribeThey wouldn't need to consider AI if we still had the '80s-'90s economy, but we are very, very far away from that now, and it's never coming backPrease understandIf you should call anyone out on it it's chinks, they DO have the dosh
>>581594418japan invented gacha and they let china profit from ittruly the most cucked nation
>>581593170it's just a very baffling decision when they're making a game based on 3D models, they hire voice actors for all of them (even the general adventurers)>which is the main pain point of 3d open world gachaslop, they require the same effort as a premium unit but nobody will actively pull for thembut then they cut corners on a 50$ artwork
>>581588567It pretty much confirmed tho.
>>581593170Eh, chasing the profit lead to lowering quality of everything. Everything. From clothes, food, housing, cars and now even art.
>>581594418>by the tiny hat tribeYes and their gentile allies. If you check history of expulsion and pogroms you will see that it was mostly done by common men and elites both royalty and church was actively protecting them.
>>581524464As a dev myself, the problem in many cases is the QA team doesn't know what is intended vs what isn't intended by the devs.
Thought on Sam MC. Don't think any of the inherited skills gained transfer to other classes so wondering if it's even worth it considering the gear required to make samurai do decent damage.
>>581597497all the fighter passives and thief surety passives carries over so you do good damage with bamboo splitter without even tryingthe aids part is finding a good katana/yoto/odachi but the ffxi relic katana is good enough to enter A5 with at least
>>581597497You are right that samurai suck to gear, but samurai are also the best DPS and MC is the best Sam so it is the minmax choice. Hell of a grind though, so just chilling on fighter or Ninja until Ranger lantern comes is honestly pretty sensible.
>>581597497You get bonus damage from fighter, survivability from knight, spells from mage and priest, thief SUR passive, and shedding + even more damage from ninja. Give him treatment so he can heal and Samurai MC is really versatile.The main downside is simply not being able to res yourself and SAM is a frontline class so you risk death (and a battle reset) to do great damage.
>>581597497I love doing 10k a turn
>>581597847>>581598002>>581598093Thanks, not doing much anyway besides grinding gear and I think I have enough books to level to 70 or close to it anyway so I might as well. Been holding out since it became a thing as fighter was good enough but I need big damage like >>581598193For some battles and Yuzu can only carry me so far.
>>581586735how the fuck you put in 150 hours that quick
I want sexy hag foxes
I resumed daphne after seeing phyllisia I’m at A3, I was looking up anything new for iarumad and apparently he gets a neat trick with an A4 katana called snow yoto Is this weapon accessible at the start of A4? Can it work at +5, 0 unification?
>>581602385yuzu
>>581603716It drops around A4 south lakeshore, maybe elsewhere but can't confirm.
>>581603716>I ar u madyou can do it with mc too, yes you just need the yotoits kinda niche tho
>>581603809she is not a hag and she is using kansai accent not old hag speak
benis
ahhhh refreshingmy tail's lovely sheen is restored
What's she looking at?
>>581598193What's your stats look like? Trying to gauge what I need to gear up on.
>>581605772me of course
>>581410418We need vibecoded chudded up clones of Daphne and Dot Hack NYOW!!!!Dark fantasy anime styled dungeon crawlers with heavy bloom effect should NOT BE THIS UNCOMMON!
>>581605772>>581608850>JD, they're still saving for the anniversary>deploy the ojisan bait character
>>581603716>iarumad
>>581609609>she's boring as fuckFailed again, JD. Got her for free anyway.
>>581587979I fully agree. I'm not some AI puritan, I really don't care if backgrounds or whatever are AI. But art of the gacha characters is like THE most important art for the game and using AI for it is insulting. Ngl it has made me skip several characters and alts already.
>>581614916
>>581615517Yea they should just use 3D renders of the character models as the banner art instead of half assing 2D art with AI
>>581616285I'd honestly prefer that. Alt Elise looks good on 3D but her AI art is DOGSHIT. Also my worry is they've been using AIs to design alts too. Shiou's alt looks horrendous and I don't see how a human being could come up with that bullshit.
Should I spent 4000 gems for another 20 rolls on Fishy Felicia and the +8hp book for Elise?(33+22+1 jeweler bones + 4 free bones should be 60)
How are you all farming cave of malice? Just hitting B4? It seems pretty stingy...
>>581618073it's not worth spending rolls for shop items. Save for a future pity.
>>581603809doesnt count, she has had the semen 100,000 men inside of her
yuzunya
>>581619906Boring. I'll hold the 8 marks until Linara/anniversary and see if I still want Fish and Elise HP by then.
Anons are about to miss out on Halloween sheli
>>581624752No, it will be spooky accountant Gerulf whose inherit is refunds on eruption strike only.
>>581617670They did. You can say that when sick, weak, mixed colours are used instead of strong pure one. Just lok at yuzu ranger. It's AI colouring.
>>581624553You can't hold banner tokens.
>>581625531Oct1 and Oct 8 still happen before the Oct 14 expiry
>>581624752Olive would be a good pick for halloween
>>581625936is either Clarissa or Kirhia as next general adventurer Alts, based on the survey they did a while back4 out the 6 have an alt
>>581624752I don't like real life themed events. Christmas Flut is ugly.
>>581629560Can't wait for bag-over-head clarissa alt
>>581629560Vivi bros when is it going to be her turn....
>>581629560If they're doing it by sex appeal it should be eulalia / Olive / Galina next
I've been using giga buff all in Shiou with Warrior's Battlecry 5 and that shit is STRONG.
>>581629560heres my AI take, I think the fingers messed up on only 1hire me drecom
>>581641390chloe toes are weird, her hands are missing one finger and a thumb. heterochromic eyes for no reasonasha tits are offclarissa only has a sword hiltbaka idiot you'd have the japanese fanbase sacrifice you to the oceans for these transgressions
>>581607249464 atk340 matk
>>581641951I think he's using novel or an old model. Someone more competent would likely prompt each character individually then crop and place them onto a background seperately. If you learn how to fix these up with img2img and do a few passes at the magic resolutions you can make something indistinguishable.
>>581642341I posted the original pic in chatgpt and said make them look like etrian odyssey characters
>>581641390Why are they looking at me like that
>>581586735what a little faggot
>>581642219Thanks, just needed a comparison to my current equipment and what to focus on.
>>581586735what does the little float mean
>>581646976whatever you want
>>581641390>our retarded gwos use AI better than drecumGrim.
I gotta say for all the talk about Guarda A4 is significantly harder overall.
>>581649117I mean, if you were over level 60 or using any silver, especially the relic weapons then you were playing Guarda on easy mode so it makes sense A4 would be harder, but I think Isberg is both a little bit easier and a lot less annoying with no stealth bits and no shit like having to go from zone 8 to 9 to 10 and back and then forward again without a harken. Of the annoying status effect bosses Bigfoot is more annoying than Doll, I'll give you that.
>>581422134>>581426404i dont think its too late to start the game i started playing like four months ago i love wizardry but i never wanted to try daphne because its a stinky mobile gacha game but then i played it and like it a lot its a proper wizardry game. i probably have like 75 hrs not counted on my phone
>>581649117Eeeeeh not really. A4 is pretty easy outside of the wolf and maybe the true end really. Guarda only looks easy now because it's been crept, you should have been here on it's release.
Been playing some of the missions from Abyss 2 to see if I can finally clear it and holy shit I didn't remember the writing being this bad, muh church and nobless bad, men are so icky, muh objetification of women because of the mermaid trophies (in a game where one of the main mechanics is to spend money to collect all kinds of women with giant tits), muh patriarchal societyLulu is such a fucking retard I want her to shut the fuck up and stop haunting me, whoever is in charge of the writing is a massive faggot, does it get better down the line?
>>581651131The muh men shit is localization fan fiction by the way.
So what do think the chances are that we get monk class for anniversary?
>>581651246I do remember some of the bullshit being localization faggots doing their "job" (mostly stuff that's not dubbed so they can write whatever they want) which is to fuck over japanese games, but there's still a fair amount of cringe millenial leftoid bullshit that somehow found it's way into a japanese game, I wouldn't be surprised if some green haired gaijin foid is involved in the actual writing
is this a countdown to a restock or do I have to use my coins before the days run out?
>>581652493that one it's just restock
>>581652493Restock
>>581651131I think you're just sensitive to that shit at this point or something because I never got that vibe. I saw the trade of mermaids like any other kind of poaching. It'd be the same as trapping unicorns to grind up their horns or some shit. The church is a valid route to follow and the bad noble is someone all 3 factions condemn and have you stop. I genuinely don't even know what the fuck the patriarchy comment is about either.
I guess there are newcuties around... so anyways I was taking a look at the wheel while I work on my bad ends for A4. When you wheel back to the start of A4 does it just let you pick up the quest and choose who to work for there? Or am I forced to true end the other two leaders to see their part of A4?
>>581629560I am a general woman enjoyerA team with those 5 could work pretty well too
spoiler alert, lulu is cute
>>581653646You can choose a different faction for each abyss.Think about your timeline, you can only choose 1 of them each time.
>roll the free bone>it's legendary>thank you thank you thank you th-
>>581653257>the patriarchy commentit's about the "Servant and Cargo Recovery", Lulu drops a monologue about the patriarchy and how women have no freedom and are forced into marrying or x jobs, which is retarded propaganda knowing how in-universe women can be strong adventurers just as if not stronger than menthe mermaid trophy is a huge redflag, she specifically mentions the objetification of women and how men who sexualize women are the worstthe rest is just the whole game, most nobles, monarchs, kings and knights are mostly evil and the good ones are always either "noble thieves" who are stealing to feed their families or low hanging fruit sobstories like thatto me you're the one who's desensitised to that kind of faggotry because it's in most games nowadays
>>581641390I get 2000s LN eroge vibes from the sloppified image.
>>581656704using your image, chatgpt spat this out
are we just posting slop now? its over...
>>581657825>disobeying our pngtuber
>>581657825cute would roll
draw me your current party
>>581659415No
>>581659415best I can do by hand
>>581660443cOUNTeratTACK
>>581659415
>>581660618 it was supposed to be yuzu but I picked bad colors for the background
>>581659415500 hours in ms paint
>>581661734incredible
>>581662419sheli, physilia, prishe, bea-thi, lana?
>>581662645Alice, physilia, prishe, yuzu(ranger), lana. Close enough.
>>581662612thank you
I miss debra posting.
>>581659415I forgot my monitor was in 4k
Beasts are too free.
Reminder that best folk are best in any class.Best fighter? Amelia and ChloeBest knight? Barbara and ChloeBest thief? AmeliaBest ninja? YuzuBest ranger? YuzuBest samurai? Be kot downBest mage, priest, healer? ChloeBeast folk best folk
>>581667131I actually don't like Chloe's english VA that much.
So do you really have to kill the cyclops boss before A4 gwo every single time?
>>581667837Yes. Best option is to wheel to the church grounds, kill big boy, rest at fountain, kill gwo
>>581667131>Best fighter?Lana>best kniggerLana>best ningerRinne alter>best rangerYuzu, yeah.>best samuraiStinky ghoul>best mageAlice>best priestAlice>best healerParasites in long fights, flying bug in short fights.
>>581667837Once per wheel use. He stays dead.
>>581668106
>>581668374Didnt he reset if you dont trigger the crow?
hello retard herei'm around 6 million / 10 million to the level 70 exp cap on these party members. this is generally going to be my go-to prog party, but i'm looking at alternatives to run as i get MC classes to 70 and eventually do the 25 million exp gauntlet for iarumas class change samuraido i need a ninja / ranger for any content? my options are human ninja, kiriha and heinrico (ew).any good general adventurers to look out for as a knight?if i already have phyllis, do i need a 2nd healer raised in camille? i don't think i'll be using alice, so backline personalities don't seem important to me
>>581668704mages are currently shit and ainiggi is garbageberka is bad unless you d9/lvl7 true words of fireiarumas is ok
>>581575021These two names are actually historically intertwined and it isn't anything new.
>>581670072Berka is good because she is a fighter that can swap to a staff to cast occasionally. Also fire element, so she is relevant in the only fight casting is.
>>581668391
>>581668704>ninjanot really, no. They're just another flavor of dps and arguably the only special thing about them that might require you to bring is dissipation, which is fine to just use on mc after you grind the class on him. There are some cheese strats with them because their auto attacks have a small chance to instant kill.>rangersame as ninja but a hard backline dps is rarer. I suppose for the best ending in alabaster you might need one, but really not in a "max them out" kind of necessary.>good general adventurersUhhh not sure about "as a knight" but Chloe, Elise, Heinrico (lol) and Kiriha, and Camille but you already have syphillia. Asha and Marianne if you need extra dual casters, the former is pretty good for A4. Technically Benjamin but people just use Benis. It's fine to skip out on generals for now imo, just remember they're good so you can swap them in to level when you feel like it or when your main dudes cap out in case you need to do body gauntlet type content like the relatively recent arena.Small note about your team comp. Ainiggi gets a lot of hate, but her thing is that you bring her instead of a knight and priest, because her special spell contests the buff slot for Knight's Defense and she also heals a little. I'd probably drop Adam because his inherit is too valuable, and ainiggi + another dual caster is plenty. Eventually, 1 hard caster + 1 hybrid caster should be enough generally unless it's specialized fights, and you have like 2 in berk and neutralman
>>581668704benis
>>581670856>Berka is good because she is a fighterworse than every other fighter>that can swap to a staff to cast occasionallycast what? magic is shit>Also fire element, so she is relevant in the only fight casting isyou really lost the plot if you sacrifice 1 whole character in your party slot for a single fight
>>581670072i'm aware ainikki isn't considered good by how hard anons shitposted her during release but being able to wield 2h will somewhat fix her as a glass cannon at least...>>581671889thanks gwo>her special spell contests the buff slot for Knight's Defensei didn't actually know this and i was planning on MC destination class to be knight.adam is there as a farmer and probably gets kicked out for phyllis when i actually start progressing. >just remember they're (general adventurers) good so you can swap them in to level when you feel like it or when your main dudes cap out in case you need to do body gauntlet type content like the relatively recent arenayeah i was thinking about that where i might need more than my favorite characters. i'm going to be macro grinding out a lot of exp taking MC classes to 70 so plenty of exp to spread aroundfrom reading online apparently a lot of people kept their MC as a fighter because it was aids to raise another one from scratch>>581672058benis :DDD
>>581673464You want level some extra adventurers so you can send them on dispatched.
>>581671760What's she thinking?
>>581673464are you using planning on using the chinese macro or do you write your own?the chinese one needs really good detect/disarm to reliably open chests
>>581673612i've never really looked into dispatches and the fasterthoughts doesn't really describe the systemhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/appendices/dispatches/what dispatches would i be ultimately farming?>>581673798>are you using planning on using the chinese macro or do you write your own?no this is a somewhat simple one i made for abyss 1 that follows off my recorded inputs.the wheel route to walk back to town never has chests or enemies, and completing the wave quest kicks you back to town.do you have a link or something that i could check myself? seems useful for farming A2 hull
>>581673464ainigga is pretty tanky when you load her up with heavy armor. Even more if you make her a chunky support caster with a shield or a GB machine. She can use a 2h sword or hammer when you're farming but for real fights I've transitioned her to relic sns. Definitely not a glass cannon. I think I use her just fine in place of a knight and I haven't encountered a fight where I feel like her maporfic has failed me yet, you just have to also top your dudes up in hp which the long buff allows you to do. And if i REALLY need more defense I'd just add all-round defense spam to the mix.
>>581674119you have 2 dispatch slots unless you pay, so you want at least 12 spare niggas, ideally with a thief and healer in each team. Certain dispatches will eventually have restrictions like element/class/alignment, so that's another layer of consideration. Nothing too much though, you get a bit of extra junk usually, but might as well make use of it. We used to run dispatches for ores too but I don't think you need to anymore after the XI collab. Some people also run them to passively level up units since a few are tailored for exp gain too.Legendary units can get a personal quest that unlocks a dispatch with a chance to drop a junk with an even smaller chance to drop their gacha weapon. Currently the only notable one is lana with cuisinart which would have been good if we weren't in a 2h meta, but maybe eventually we'll get raven dagger or something.
comfy fishing daysadly not a day for golden kotfish though
>>581674218okay that's good to knowthe entire duration of ainikki release was >elven hp>>581674593>We used to run dispatches for ores too but I don't think you need to anymore after the XI collabguess what i just skipped haha...
>>581674824>guess what i just skipped haha...it's over for you
>>581675345How many hours no-lifeing the mines and how many FAS did you get?
>>581675531400 hours and 23fas
>>581675345>have nearly the same amount of ore>only got 3 FASI am such a lucklet
I keep catching tiny fish despite being in the right zone and depth and using earthworms. Is finding bigger sizes just luck or am I doing something wrong?
>>581676928Not enough blood sacrifices to Moloch.
>>581676658I am stumpedWho is the jewish smartphone?
>>581676992Desu I'm trying to fish not steal children to make blood bread
>>581676997>flashI was too lazy to draw the flash effect myself and used the jewish star
>>581676997Clearly that's marianne's new alt, gyaru marianne.
>>581676658Who are bottom center and top right?
>>581688620chronostasis man the time stop uncle (you) and ainiggi's succulent midriff with visible navel through her dress
So now that cave of malice has better rewards, is the dispatch worth doing? On that note what dispatches do you guys take?
With the downtime now I've gone back and did the Thief trials. What's the best thing to alter on it. SUR or ATK? I'm not sure either one would make a big difference with how pitiful the thief damage is. ATK might be better with a MoF inherit - which I don't have - but otherwise I don't know. Maybe I'll just wait till we uncap to 80 and see if there's some new skills or we get a nimble strike rework that scales with ASPD/EVA.
>>581659415My team ever since I started. I had more fun making this then I had any right to.
>>581697682Change Gerulff to have a pure General Adventurer team.
thats a lot of uhh nyontents leftprobably will finish it in a month with this pace
STR, IQ, or LCK boon for Yrsa?
>>581701320The ideal boon for rangers is DEX. STR is probably the second best.
>Pick one favorite character and minmax them even though that means bringing characters you don't care about into the party for syngery>Pick your 5 favorite characters and let them all do "good enough"Why way?
>>5817022435 favorites. They'll all become godly in time and you'd have enjoyed your time more overall.
>>581702243You will have an easier time with a maxxed out carry character, but 5 favorites is the SOVL way
>>581702243I guess it depends on if you genuinely like the 2nd through 5th place characters or if they're just the most likeable amongs meh choices. If you really love your number 1 and even number 2 character buts 3, 4, and 5 are just nice enough, minmax your favorite. Otherwise as other anons said, just characters you like.
>>581702243This is the only way to actually play the game imo. Taking characters you actually like and doing your best to make them the best they can be is a drug to me.
>>581702243this is going to sound edgy but this game isn't hard enough so far to warrant that kind of minmaxxing that being said I am starting abyss 4 today so maybe this is where the rubber finally meets the road
>>581704417If you're willing to grind, the game never gets hard enough for minmaxing except for super bosses.The game is hard if you don't have good gear though.
I haven't logged in in months.Is the weekly free 50 jimmies in the store[dot]wizardry info no longer available?
>>581704741nevermind i turned off my VPN and got it
Apart from Asha, what other character wants the 2H Staff of Malice?
>>581706373Erwin, Berk, and Yoizou so basically nobody
Speaking about asha does anyone have her as a mage or priest?I noticed she’s a general with hp discipline, she’s like a baby summer yekat Worth giving up the opportunity cost of inheriting katino sleep? Is that something you bother leveling in the first place?
>>581707325Honestly you don't need to level sleep. Some people will use her to teach sleep to someone who either doesn't learn it naturally or maybe you just don't have the class book for yet so that you can have multiple people spamming sleep, but you are totally fine to disc her and keep her in the party. Only reason you wouldn't is if you are using Alice row buff.
I regret skipping on the FF collab. I feel I'll never catch up now.
>>581709338just go auto chests in the collab castle vro you'll get your dudes decked out in 4 star blue/purple gear soon and get a buncha fas out of it too
>>581709771Isn't it over?
>>581709338>I feel I'll never catch up now.that's not the case at all. you can still farm relics. as for the ores, you can still mine just not with golden pickaxes so you will have to do thrice as much work
>>581709798the collab is over but the castle is back. There is no quest and the enemies are replaced with vanilla variants. They still drop pretty good junk. I think you can still mine too, although no gold pick for 3x. But that's really not a problem if you're just going for enchantment ores
>>581709798The event trade is over but you can still farm the materials for the relic weapons. It takes longer though.
>>581710069>>581709965>>581709868I see. What I'm most in the need of is good silver gear more than materials, is it worth doing then?
>>581709798>>581709965>>581710069the junk is objectively better. they took out the ebonsteel shit. as for mining it's shittier yeahrelic weapon shouldnt be too bad but you have to spend like 30-60 minutes every day for a few weeks to get it each time the nightmare enemies respawn
>>581710161you'll get a bunch of generic silver gear. None of that special equipment like chainmail or hunting gloves/boots. But should be plenty while you wait for A5. I was finished with relic weapons by day 3 so I'm not sure how long it's gonna take now, but realistically they're just as good as a high rolled silver weapon
>>581710161yeah the collab castle is the best place currently to farm for silver equipment if you arent going for shit like chainmail
>>581710161you won't get any chase items (like hunting boots or chainmail) but for generic silver it is by far the best, junk rates are insane
>>581710430>>581710401>>581710357Graet thanks, maybe I'll finally able not to job to the oni.
>>581710161Castle is go-to for weapons, even non-relics like a 2H axe for a wand and cloth gear for mages. You can get regular armor there and have the easiest time getting good silver blessings for extraction, but broadly you will want surety gear which mostly comes from Alabaster cave. Rates are kinda shit though so if you just want "good enough" collab castle will get you there faster.
>>581710069If the event trade is over what did us returners miss out on?Too bad phylene didn’t show up before the collab start
>>581711346>If the event trade is over what did us returners miss out on?around 300 exp worth of codexes
>Default Debra after personal request looks 100 times better than Dancer>Useless passive compared to one of the best thoughfug
>>581711346Bondmates that generally suck if not on the collab characters, the collab characters, and easier farming. That's pretty much it.
>>581711525they really should let you pick skins. I love the pathetic knight lana but you're forced to go for boylana or the alt that's too confident and sounds unnatural. That's why she's off my team
>>581711346well relics are going to be a pain in the ass to make compared to the trader existing but other than that not muchyou can still make them, just going to be 20 times worse
Speaking of returning, is fishing for crits on the cyclops still the best way to farm bounties?
>>581712442You can easily macro twin scorps and minotaur.No point wasting time fishing for crits when you can just let a macro run all day.
>>581712582Is this also true on PC? Can I ask for the basic gestalt then?
>>581712442it breaks me inside that there are no beastgirls irlimagine rubbing the base of her tail until she climaxesimagine the smell of her loins when she is in heatimagine the wild seximagine subtle ear twitches and the tail in a ? shape whenever she is excited
>>581711346>>581712020You can still get the relics, you just need to kill a hard miniboss 100 times
>>581712804Well there's a very good anime about them airing right now.
>>581712442you use chrono2 and just kill the cyclops normally these days
>>581712907Uhm nyo I don't think I will. Good silver gear will be enough.
>>581712907I’ll farm silvers and wait for the next big event shop desuI already missed out as a casual might as well full commit and keep on going for good enough upgrades
>>581712721I don't know if there are any macro programs for PC, but most decent emulators (MuMu Player, Bluestacks) I've tried do have macro functions which basically just records your keystrokes.Basically, you just setup your run by entering a battle, using all your ESS/Hue/Scattershot and set auto battle to last action, do one run and wheel to reset both bounties to get a 'fresh' start. Then, record one complete run from taking the bounty, beating them, returning and resting, to finally wheeling and getting the bounty again while taking into account any possible lag. Auto battle should take care of the bounties (use hammers and rangers for the minotaur) and if you record it correctly (protip: use map markers and auto walk instead of dragging to move), you should be able to just enable the macro and let the emulator run the whole day in the background.I did that a while back, got bored of Wiz, stopped for a couple of months, and now MuMu gave me some problems so I uninstalled it and just do dailies on steam to prep for anni.
>>581666598there is considerable more detail this time on this booth, JD is doing well financially.
>>581712442I just kill him normally. Crit fishing is unreliable now.
>>581666598All of these girls are ugly
>>581711803can't you just click on Deb a few times real fast for her to change outfits?
>>581714464Anon is complaining about needing to use gold debra for the passive. The toggle only switches between masked and unmasked Debra on her base form, not gold maiden.The other anon is complaining about knight Lana not being available as a skin for fighter Lana.
>>581714464That's for making her put the mask back on after her request, not for swapping to her alternate version
>>581711346you missed out on a free choice of collab legendary.
>>581714464not when you're on the alt
the only role i don't have a really solid character for is ninja/samurai/ranger i heard yuzu is good as a ninja and ranger and that gillion makes for a good samuraii hope the anniversary event gives a lil freebie or two
>>581715421Yuzu is a particularly good ninja with her gacha weapon, otherwise she's.. fine? Probably don't use her if you're looking to use dagger or ninjato. Most people swap her to ranger without her weapon. Gillion makes for an interesting Samurai but also not necessarily a good one. He makes good use of the odachi weapons, but most people recgonize the value of a samurai for their katana moves which he doesn't do particularly well. He will in the end DTS harder than anyone out there, but after so much grinding and gearing and never use bamboo splitter.
>>581715421Gillion is a mediocre samurai, exactly the same as Human-sam. Shiou and MC are best because they are katana focused, unlike Gillion and Yoizou who have skills for odachi.
realistically what cc would be good for a ranger?
>>581716392thief
>>581716392Thief, Ninja are best. Knight, fighter, priest, mage are all close in value
>>581715421I might be delusional but I'm thinking anni will give a free random bone I & II, and also a free selector bone for an old limited.
>>581716392Any character at all that wants to do damage wants thief CC to boost surety damage. No character has a ninja CC so they might be avoiding that for lore reasons, but they'd be a good one. Fighter has some value, but less, especially for ranged characters. Supportive characters pretty much just want priest.
>>581717104Anniversary and new years have the dawn bones which contain every non-collab Lego released before a certain date. Anniversary had 2 guaranteed and about 10 5% rolls for free and a selector. New years had one guaranteed free Lego, and 3 guaranteed and about 70 5% rolls for $200.
nyontents?
25 days left for true nyontent, i want the slutty teen elf, but I better save in case we get a new fairy or the fabled elmon banner
>>581717104>>581717579I should add that the new year's dawn bones are a huge gamble for how expensive they are. For the legendaries that were limited at the time I got>Savia>2 Rinne>2 Wana>Dancer Debra>SheliGuess what they added shortly after new years.
>>581717869I want Lulu banner and Arna banner.
>>581718078lulu banner isn't coming until 5th or 6th anni or maybe even later considering drecom releases only 1 nyu abyss every ear
For oldfags, how did the double legendary event worked? Like I get a Gerulff from Adventure Remains and I get another Gerulf or some random legendary?
>>581718414every time you got a legendary from standard bone you got pic relatedit was really good
>>581715421i'm about 90% sure the 2nd anni character is a ranger or monkit's about time ranger got their powercreep. even healers got a sidegrade variant with anenome - phylls in a shorter amount of time
>>581719631It's a monk since Drecom introduced cesti weapon type.
>>581719631>>581724178There is no guarantee we get a monk any time soon. They left the cesti as a 2% drop in a single non-quest related dungeon.
ummm, what will the next new class be? Monk is a given seeing how we first got semi-nyamurai before the kanatanyasexual cat came in. It's like a demo or preview of sorts; same will happen to punchy elf.Soo, I'm guessing we'll get a summoning class in the nyar future, perhaps a gadgeteer even?
>>581725190bard or monk
>>581724178Iarumas came out like 4 months before Samurai. Monk is coming and probably soon, but not this soon.
>>581725190>>581725523they just programmed in three unique classesno shot they push out a new class for 2nd anni it's going to be a rehash like yuzu
>>581725190Lord. Basically the Ainikki concept done right. Only wizardry one class we're missing, one of few stat combinations we're missing for an advanced job, it just makes sense.
I dont have an Aboris bone but my Amelia no longer has the skill. Were those sent out?
>>581726176yes, check the notices / announcements tab
>>581725190after releasing healer they are going to drop bishop with infinite ressurection above 40 fortitude in dungeon.
>>581726503>>581726167they expire in like 90 days so get fucked if you take a break during the aspd compensation lmao
>anni character actually has a chance of being a fairyI feel sick
Anni will be a tomboy monk
>>581726503Thanks! Idk why they didn't use the Guild mailbox.
how do i pass the time until anni?
>>581713779I tried that a while ago and it always broke after a couple of runs. Either the scorpions dropped a chest or some one wanted to go to the tavern. I tried making a script where I clicked around a while to cancel imaginary chests or tavern invites but then the problem was that the emulator crashed after 2-3 hrs (I have 64gb of RAM, how tf is that not enough to run wizardry?!), so I couldn't let it run over night. I have no idea what kind of magic people employ to get it to run properly.
>>581729556farm chainmail or fish?
>>581729556take a one month break and get a free alice if you've already secured 100 pulls
>>581730615It's surprising how many gachas you can just grab login rewards from and do quite well over time. If you only grabbed supplies and never do dailies with all the maintenence and shit you're not really missing out on much. I do that shit with uma when I get tired of it and it's shocking how much you can get with almost zero effort.
>>581726167Technically we are also missing bishop but since IDing is free there is little point in adding it. At least if they don't buff it with some unique spells. On the other hand I wouldn't put it past Drecom to add a mage/priest hybrid with samurai XP requirements. But Lord would definitely be the most interesting. Free priest spells and either some knight passives or dual wielding would be dope
>>581725190Wizardry classes are>Fighter>Thief (Rogue in 8)>Mage>Priest>Ninja>Samurai>RangerAll present>LordDiscount version available with Ainiki>ValkyrieDiscount version available with Iroha>MonkEarly Access through Prishe>BardCrumbs of it present in Linaria and the Ulmia fight>AlchemistReworked into Healer>Bishop>PsionicNot super likely based on how much of their kits were given to Priest and Mage. Might get discount version on a legendary like a ""bishop"" priest who can do more damage via scroll items than normal.Which pretty much just leaves us looking for Gadgeteer as something totally new to Daphne but drawing from the older series, which they aren't strictly bound to do if they don't want to.
>>581731506aren't advanced classes supposed to be better with the disadvantage that they need more EXP?so why does fighter shit on every single class
Monk is basically confirmed since their weapon is in the game already. Either the anniversary character is a Monk or they release one shortly after. I don't know if we really need another front line melee damage dealer though, they'd need to be at least as good as fighters.
>>581731506Didn't think they add any of the Bradley classes. Aside from the games not being popular in Japan, I think the copyright is with Atari. Drecom only owns the original werdna games
>>581731683fighters aren't the issue, they do what theyre supposed to. click skill, do damagethe bigger problem is that in 99% of cases in this game you want to kill whatever is in front of you before they act because monster scaling is retarded and your biggest layer of defense is 3x RNG inherits
>>581731683Advanced classes all have 2 stats that really matter to their performance. Attack+Accuracy, Attack+Magic, Magic+Divine, etc. With two stats to draw from they hit higher highs in an ideal scenario, but if you don't have both stats then you will lag. Fighter only cares about Attack so it is easier to get to their potential and the effort of extra stats can be given to utility stats like evade or even divine to provide emergency heals.
How is Astral Order as inherit?
>As a spirit, she manipulates adventurers who are as good as corpses to search for her own dead body... and yet, if there's anything she doesn't like, she immediately gets sulky, and furthermore, she evaluates the adventurers' companions based on her own arbitrary standards, looking down on them with condescending criticism. And sometimes, she flashes what's under her skirt.
>>581733378>Attack upLiterally, who gives a shit? Gear can push you up against the softcap for most skills.
Reminder that we are still missing the anonymous Ranger and Healer.
>wake up>see thiswat do?
>>581737886Go sit on my gorilla wife's lap while her slutty friends watch
>>581737536Based on Human-Sam and Human-Nin, anon healer is due end of October and anon ranger is way overdue.
mmmm....nyess...pale elf anyus...
>>581737886the liv glow up needs to be studied.
>>581737886Man I really wish there was a way to remove doctor from yeks model. They could have maybe given her a tiny one to wear on her staff or on a belt or a skull embroidery. It's just to ugly and distracting having him around. Same with Alice and the floating heads clipping everywhere and screwing up the camera. I feel they both were cool designs ideas as 2d sketches but they didn't think about how annoying they are in 3d and how quickly the gimmicks wear out and become irritating. At least they corrected themselves with Debra, but the bond changes/Alters for Alice and especially Yekaterina were such missed opportunities.
>>581738564Okay post her nyanus then
>>581738564How is your anus sea nigger kun? Still sold on market in Jakarta?
>>581738167We got human nin with the ninja CCs and human Sam with the second leg samurai. We probably get the healer with Anemone CC and ranger with MCs class change (delayed forever)
>>581740897why are you so obsessed with my asshole faggot
>>581741347Poor sea monkey kun. Him and his abused anus. Sold for pennies in Jakarta.
I love all nyanuses, whether they belong to pale elves or jakartan boys
>>581741905Spoken like real Australian or Anglo tourist
For those late to the collab party. How many purple demons do you get per day? I seem to find 3 easy enough then 4 is a bit of a lottery sometimes needing 30-50 mins. If there's any more than that feels too rare or time consuming unless I'm doing something wrong.
>>581745181during the event it varied for me. Sometimes 3-4 sometimes zero. I just farmed the packs of 8 before they got nerfed.
today is a terrible day for fishing
I might actually start doing bounties soon.
>>581745181I haven't checked the post-collab castle too thoroughly but it seems to follow the same rule as the collab. 3 per day are just spawned and waiting for you, others can be forced to spawn when you find an enemy where there shouldn't normally be one like finding 3 enemies in the little cubby on the west side of Z1 instead of 2. Kill the extra enemy, walk away and come back and maybe the demon spawned, maybe the "placeholder" mob just respawned.
>>581441943NTA but got her and staff on first roll lmao
why do adventurers just randomly lose 1 fortitude sometimes?I just logged in, did my daily 3 requests, rested at the inn, Alice is 99 fort.
>>581752571Economy inn room can steal 1 fortitude.
>>581752795fucking hellthanks
When Phyllisia cures a condition with an inherited priest spell like Latumofis, that also restores some HP to her which is pretty neat.
>>581757170Isn't the personal skill for all spells that cost MP, including attacking ones and statuses?
>>581759614Oh shit, you're right. I have never even taught a Healer an attack spell so in my mind I was just thinking about cure spells.
>>581757170Does her self heal scale on base mp cost or reduced cost after WotP discount? I've seen conflicting info
>>581759939Reduced cost after WotP, but you should still teach her that anyway and if you really need a couple extra HP for yourself cast the spell at a higher level
>FFXIfag>Have used every adventurer bone as Bone II knowing the value of Bone I inherits because Savia is just too cool and I want her D9 one day>2 total so far>Just pulled my 7th Benis>Haven't even registered her at the guild because I just don't care about her
>>581760860benis
>>581760860Since boners2 were introduced i put all my pulls towards them to get a single Redbeard, did not get a single one in 150 pulls and had to shard him
>>581760860I've been rolling II until I get 4 Redbeards and 2 Altriannes. So far 1 Marianne, 3 Red Beards, and 17 Savias...
>>581760860I pulled 2 savia and her thief book. The first is still a LVL 40 knight because I not wasting the tags when she won't be better than Debra. The second got inherited to MC so that he can poke things with the counterattack.
>>581760860this post is based in fact.
>>581760860I have needed one Wana to Shared Discipline my D6 Lana since the system was implemented but I refuse to pull on that gay banner full of losers with my 600 bonesI will probably get one from the fishing bones, waitchads win again
>>581762274>17 Savias
>>581764124She's D8 and I inherited her to my MC and Debra AND I still have the very first one I rolled (5BP no boon) at level 60, and I don't have the heart to dismiss her.
>>581764570why would you dismiss a D8 lego ever?she has an alt if you need to satisfy bp autism
>>581764903Illiterate anon, he has a D8 and a D0 and could dismiss the D0 for some tags because level 60, but also he'd be dumb to, 2 more copies to D9.
>>581764903Oh no. My D8 is a 9 BP Speed IV I got from my many rolls. My D0 level 60 was the first one I got shortly after Bones II released since I needed a dark knight for Morgus at the time. Just that I ended up getting her so many times I eventually rolled a really good copy.
>>581765010tbf he used "and" 4 times in a sentenceenglish teachers would throw a fit
>>581731918the hunger for dark savant era classes is there at least, Wiz6 had some headway for the JP SFC release that left an impression. but mainly, the the spinoffs/successors like Elminage and Xth had their own legally distinct takes in addition to whacked out shit like 3rd tier upgradesso we can get Gadgeteer, but it'll be called Robofister and the gun will be a tiny robot
>>581765796Yeah, Wizardry 8 is well loved by a handful of middle aged Americans, but it and especially 7 are pretty well buried and forgotten. 6 however is getting a weirdly strong second wind in recent years, at least within the context of the genre. Dungeon Meshi is just a legally distinct version of the broader Wizardry franchise but the author specifically called out 6 as the game she specifically remembered and looked to so I know part of the momentum comes from that. In any case, there are good feelings about 6 out there and would pretty much bet that they lean into that as close as they can, even if Atari forces them to make Robofister or whatever.
>>581767492The rights breakdown Drecom made a statement about basically meant they have full rights to everything in 6-8 since the person Atari purchased their rights didn’t have a stake in 6-8.
>>581767492i figure it's because 6 is 2d. I don't really count the 3d games as being the same genre.
>>581760860For whatever it's worth, they did a stupid thing and made discipline flat stat boosts so they were pretty strong at launch but by the time level cap gets to 80 here in a couple months high discipline won't even be the icing on the cake, it'll be the sprinkles.
>>581768858Until they change it to be flat plus a bonus percentage so whales continue D9ing into the future.
>>581752059and there was that anon that spent 160 pulls with no benis alt. never pull.
When I came back to the game it was 2nd collab. I had like 40 pulls and said if I don't get berka alt I quit. Got 2 copies on pulls 24 and 25.
12 hours of being pegged by Savia...
>>581771472Just admit that you love cock you little faggot.
What dispatches are you guys doing?
>>581768858How hard do enemies hit lategame?I can accept HP being outscaled, what about trap disarm and detect getting boosted by 20~ or so at D7? Are unlocking requirements and detect breakpoints for overworld navigation bloated too?
>>581773482Lana's forever dispatch (still no gacha drops) and church grounds (failing to get third loop)>>581774035Godefroi will do 450-500 aoe per hit so discipline and bondmates or even cortu will save squishies. Optional bosses like the new sovereign demon will do 1000 single target damage which requires very high HP and defense to survive on any class.
>>581774035Most of your detect/disarm past the natural shit from level up comes from gear, enough so that most end game players aren't running thief at all and just slap a master ring/houndmask/mimic gloves on a ranger or ninja.
>>581774035once you get to late game you will find very hard to not get 2 tapped by pretty much anything
>>581697682I'm saving this
So what are the chances we get a double legendary event for anni? I have been hoarding bones since I started playing again and really am itching to roll them.
>>581776163they'll never do that again as they know people have hoarded hundreds of bonesit'll be 1 dawn bone rng, 1 selector of some kind and maybe an extra 10 roll
>>581776163Just save them for an actually good standard banner like III or especially IV
>>581777130VI or VII is good too
>>581734717Attack is good.Would you rather use Arboris?
>>58177745312 sp is expensive for a non-damaging skill, and there are very few characters that would use the attack buff that gets applied to the caster.At least Arboris gets +1 turn to astral break and astral order on top of the buffs being stronger when cast by him.
>>581776163They'll most likely repeat what they did recently and have a multi legendary banner with a free bone on purple pull
>>581773482just dens for ores. even though the collab gave us a ton of ore.
>>581776163less than 1%, i don't think that event is ever coming back.
>>581773482water / light denI need 2 heavy light helms to +20 my hat, I haven't gotten any light junk since the collab ended.I might mixup my teams and do water + an A4 loot dispatch but I probably wont get around to itI also need to true end A4 still but I keep putting it off to play other games
>>581776163There won't be another event until the day after you use those bones.
>>581777996>12 spyou should be using anemone's drug stirrer on your elf ;P. Mine is only 10 mp :)
Oh yeah I keep forgetting to post this. You guys ever think about Concord? Do you remember that? That was a Sony game with 300 million in budget, and they wanted to expand into comics and TV and movies and all kinds of side shit. There was a few other failed projects like that too. Books, movies, Interactive games, spin offs, these companies plan to create franchises out of nothing and then take massive losses when they fail.Enter Wizardry. Have you guys noticed that we've been presiding over the ressurection of a franchise? Not only is our game the only active wizardry title, we now have a Light Novel written by a renowned Jap. A manga. A collaboration with Final Fantasy. And possibly an anime coming. Have we been winning this entire time?
>>581780360People are clamoring for classic fantasy tropes with sincerity and real stakes after years of "muh subversion" and joss whedon dialogue.
>>581782015>the people yearn for permadeath
>>581780360Wizardry is a real IPConcord is a construct of jewish money and globohomo agitpropI'll celebrate when something like WoW crashes and burns after its tranny takeover, but so far there still seem to be a bunch of retards propping it up still
>>581782091I certainly do
>>581780360Not to shit on your parade, but all those achievements come with an asterix or two.>Drecom's publishing arm decided to utilize their new IP, wow>Collabing with FF, but it's irrelevant outside of being ojisan bait. Ain't nobody talking about FF11 in 2026.>The only active Wizardry game is a gacha with a dev team that does the bare minimumIt's better than being a dead IP, but I wouldn't call the franchise saved unless they release a standalone singleplayer game (not happening), or Drecom starts reinvesting some money into this caving simulator so we can get more than a single Abyss per year (double not happening).
>>581780360>possibly an animeDefinitely an anime, the trailer came out almost 3 months ago. It seems pretty cheaply made, with just slightly too few frames of animation to feel normal, but I'll watch it and I'll probably pull the new character Garbage when they put her in this game.
>>581782417I agree there are many asterisks, but it's still legit. B&B is Wizardry. We are talking about the franchise as a whole. Right now we've got over a year of steady releases in a multimedia franchise that is profitable. This is a stunning achievement in the business world. It has potential, most attempts don't get that far. I wouldn't even bring it up but I read those books and god dammit they are fantastic. The art is well done in the manga and LNs. I am thoroughly impressed with the entire operation. I wonder if it will scale?Speaking of current year, having a franchise about dungeon diving at the same time that Dungeon Meshi is seeing so much success is also very good luck. Imagine if we really did get the mythical Dungeon Meshi collab. I think it could be gigantic at least for JP user numbers. We know for a fact in english there are white guys who put in 150 hours after joining specifically for a collab with a 20 year old dead mmo built for ps2.
>>581783169>20 year old dead mmo built for ps2It was big on PC on this side of the pond and the PS2 version came later, I think it was the opposite for JP
>>581783814mhm my memory is telling me the ps2 JP version was really popular. I will never forget my friend growing up got ff11 on ps2. his very first mmo, and like a month in he was using piss bottles in his room. The bathroom was like 6 feet away. Insane shit.
>>581783169What books are these?
>>581784227https://mega.nz/folder/yrYnxBRA#xIuU3KUIps6j-xoDpJHGWgget the epub
>>581775449Nice, I'm glad someone liked it.
>>581697682marianne is so based
>>581785238Danke Schon
Is B&B actually a wizardry story, or is that just our headcanon?
>>581786832same universe and rules. Ultimately headcanon and seperated from the games. They got the author of goblin slayer to write it so it's kind of a big deal.
>>581788145>>581788145>>581788145accept death
>>581674756SoulfulHave you posted here before?
