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>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW
>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more
>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman
>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release
<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on release

>Old
>>581919520
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I will be starting an RP guild at launch

Nothing fancy
Just a place to chill
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Toggle it off or go back to Era. Call it.
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Can someone post the gnome priest racials? I never saw them
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def not going alliance on release

holy shit general sw chat is unberabale
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>>581943693
Funny enough learning Japanese completely ruined the sub vs dub debate for me. Because I realized a lot of Jap VA's are fucking terrible and all the weebs jerking off to the language didn't actually speak the language. Like half the time the shit isn't even translated properly at all despite weebs thinking its a "purist" thing to watch the subs. For a language they can't speak.
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I'm thinking of naming my horde Noshoes but I need a last name. Any ideas?
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>>581942175
Who?
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petition for josh to come back
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>gnomes get the best racials
>gnome priest also gets the best racial

Ooof....
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>>581943285
But how? Back when the internet was first created it was like only America and Japan online. Hell Japan created imageboard culture. We are here right now because of Japan
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Man you fags will complain about anything, a bunch of miserable fuckers you are
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have any of the beta opt-ins actually gotten in yet?
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why are they making fun of kungen?
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>>581943951
That's the lead singer of Hoobastank

>>581943930
YOU! YOU WHO! LOL
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What are the pvp matchups you guys are expecting? Which classes will dominate? Which will get stomped?
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>>581943964
devs must really like gnomes
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Reposting the stormwind photo
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>>581943901
Anyone who speaks both languages knows this, fucking Filthy Frank mocked japanese dubbing for being shit and over the top
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wow doesn't even have a japanese localization, how are they going to play it there?
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>>581944041
You should always make fun of streamers at all times
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you ARE using RestedXP guides to level right anon? you need to reach 20 as soon as you can!
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So let me get this straight.
Due to buffs like the ones in Dire Maul, and probably others too, min-maxers are just gonna avoid looting because it's a waste of time, then do loot council once everything's cleared since it all gets sent to the mailbox anyway?
I dunno how to feel about this.
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>>581944109
ofc
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What are the most popular mmos?
>1) WoW Forever
>2) Retail Wow
>3) Osrs
>4) FFXIV
>5) Guild Wars 2
>6) Eso
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>>581944041
It's well known that classicfags can't cut it in retail, retail is infinitely harder than classic
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>>581943879
>>suddenly whole game looks foggish
shadows on low indirect lighting on good NOW
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>>581944132
sounds easier to just need and greed
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>>581943987
it doesn't really have a big reason. they simply didn't pc game a lot. other asian countries had internet cafes that resulted in a lot of pc gamers. japan had traditional arcades that resulted in more console gamers. it's starting to change now though it seems.
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What can we place here? A human leveling zone? Or some cool end game stuff connected to searing gorge?
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>>581944062
>Which classes will dominate?
ranged
>Which will get stomped?
melee
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>>581944041
Because hes a fag
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>>581944171
>wow forever at the top
this is why there's so many trannies malding at us
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fucking insane belves getthis gigantic sword
but they cant be paladins
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>>581944132
dungeon farmers can solo whole instance and keep everything, literally infinite bag space
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>>581944132
>DC and don't get raid loot
>Now it gets sent to mailbox
Find a new angle faggot getting sent look for something you ALREADY KILLED is a nothingburger
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>>581944171
once wotlk anni drops, WoW will be top 3 alone easily
1) Forever
2) Midnight
3) WotLK
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>>581944132
NOT IN MY RETAIL+
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>>581943901
The voice just fits the character better. It doesn't matter since I can't understand it anyways and I don't watch shitty tranny subs. If you tell me Eren Jaeger has a better VA in Dub you're literally just lying. He sounds like a whiny monotone faggot in English. Yeah the japs play up their tone and voice, but it gives hype and is more akin to theater acting which fits the animation style. While the English dubs are like tryhards trying to make a hollywood action film when instead they should be acting more like how cartoons are voice acted.
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yo its lowkey awkward as fuck sitting around the camp, some faggot gnome started talking to me like i knew who the fuck he was and i just blanked him for 55 seconds straight and ran away, this shit feel so artificial and forced, the way to get people to talk in an MMO is to give them shared goals not make them sit by each other for 60 seconds
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>>581944041
he's unironically really fucking slow and has 0 awareness, he can do decent in classic because the game is way slower paced and he has game knowledge
to be fair though he's older
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>>581944041
Surely after 2019 classic noone continued to claim that classic was comparable in difficulty?
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>>581944091
I don't think they perceive it as being shit for whatever reason. They seems to have an appreciation for heavily theatrical mannerisms even in IRL conversation, although obviously nowhere near as over the top as anime voiceover.
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>>581944076
again, isnt that just the LK stormwind?
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>>581943987
You're here right now because of the CIA and Jeffy "Get her on the boeing, then we get her moaning" Epstein wanting to control the minds of young men
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WHat the fuck are people reserving names for now wtf what the FUCK IS GOING ON
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>>581944246
wow a mcdonalds and parking garage would look perfect there
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>>581943920
Noshoes Noservice
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>>581944302
don't use camps if you can't take the forced socialization
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what do i think about realmless gaming
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>>581944041
>>581944181
>>581944258
>>581944304
>>581944313
afaik kungen said a few anti retail things recently so retoilets have started a harassment campaign
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>>581944246
I doubt they will drop a zone entirely for one faction
Alliance has several spots that would fit for that (this place above Stormwind, Gilneas, the empty space below Winterspring and next to Darkshore) but the noshoe faction has nowhere to go
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its really weird watching people clap and holler at aggrend like he's mod ash when the only thing he's done is shit like adding scenarios to SoD and copypasting a bunch of shit.
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>>581944360
if i see a single person with HC in their name on anything but a HC server i'm making fun of them for dying
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>>581944246
Hidden horde encampment that will be used to siege Stormwind in a future update
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daaaaang
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>>581944109
As a caster does it tell you to go enchanting to get a wand asap? Also I've heard that doing dungeon tours seems to be a really good way to level, does it emphasize this?
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>>581944076
Soul vs soulless
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Undead is the best race for PvP and PvE according to fresh sim
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which elves have more sex night or sky?
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>>581944264
just transmog it on your human or ud paladin
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>>581944302
Kinda agree camps are a very hamfisted attempt at forcing socializing. At max level people will tire of this mandatory buffing routine very quickly
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>>581944443
its mostly just retoilets who are jerkign him off, we used to make fun of the fat faggot streamer simp
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>>581944246
That's where the Naga will invade the Eastern Kingdoms when the Naga Dungeons+Raid event hits. Kalimdor will see Azsharan shores infested with organized Naga+Satyr naval strongholds.
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You now remember Sneedvun
You now remember Grim Lick
You now remember Jahy
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>>581944076
I want the cemetery in classic too like the other anon said in the last thread, it's my fav spot in modern SW
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Retail stormwind got a bad reputation because you were very likely to visit that little house behind the city, and stay there. And, that place was always crowded with other people like yourself who were probably in full heirlooms on a rare mount and just stood around there waiting for the dungeon queue. It just felt kind of boring for some reason. It didn’t help that you had to unlock the new races there, but it was technically max lvl content. Meaning you were sent somewhere with significant quests that you couldn’t actually do. And they were confusing as fuck looking, it wasn’t just a quest like you had to do hundreds of quests and it needed it own wowhead guide, but even the wowhead guide wasn’t straight forward because there were so many little things that you could or couldn’t do. Yeah I just remember it was like wayyy too confusing and stupid looking. And the quests themselves weren’t even challenging like you’d just run from point A to point B over and over. Did not enjoy new stormwind very much, the significance of the zone was totally destroyed by the casualization of the genre.
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>>581944246
I would like to see that it opens into a massive cove where there's a blackrock dwarf harbor wanting to send a full scale invasion into wetlands to claim dun modr supremacy and there's different levels of the zone connected by bridges with huge cliffs and giving you the way to see the deeprun tram glass part underwater
Other thing that I would love to see is the reintegration of the stormwind peninsula into the game and add whatever into there, at least not the eternal autumn shitty area like turtle wow did
Even if the zone sucks balls it would be KINO.
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I showed my character (night elf girl) to my mom and she said she likes her
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>>581944574
Sky
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>>581944563
do you have the other classes too?
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>>581944182
I already did that. The moment i left Northshire the whole game turned foggy. Volumefog is on 0. Its not even the fog effect. Everything is just grey. When i go back to Northshire, the sun starts shining again and everything looks normal.
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>>581944563
>pve
Nobody gives a shit about racials for pve. We already have shit like the +5% damage to beasts that will fuck with parsefags regardless.
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>kaelthas is alive
>arthas is alive
>vashj is alive
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>>581944701
Why?
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>>581944574
When does most sex happen? NIGHT TIME
When are Night Elves awake most? AT NIGHT

Coincidence? I THINK NOT
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>>581944041
He has slain over 600 Jews and 10000 retoilets.
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>>581944246
Under water zone. Classic doesn’t have one yet.
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>>581944596
thats what im gonna do on release tbqh
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>>581944729
Beta players should get a 24 hour ban when the servers go live
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>>581944750
Are night elves nocturnal?
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>>581944563
>retards already trying to gauge best for min maxing
I fucking hate these people.
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>>581944832
Classic Vashj'ir would slap
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>>581944642
yeah true xis all us turdle troons love making fun of those blizzdronnies!
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>>581944678
stormwind is garbage anyway. its just too big lke darnassus. IF is the best capital city alliance has.
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>>581944740
can you stop posting this picture ffs jesus. fucking jumpscare
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>>581944729
>people who have poopsocked the beta for several days straight are only now coming to the realization that everything is getting deleted and none of this matters.
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>try and please both retail and classic fans
>end up pleasing no one
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>>581944832
>release underwater zone
>pvp becomes druid navy seal warfare
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>>581944730
Undead racial is 5% to all enemy types
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>>581943901
Dub sucks because the industry around it sucks, it's that simple. Not a single one of those retards is good at voice acting. Get Seth McFarlane, the guy from Futurama, Patrick Seitz, those brits from Frognation who do the Fromsoft games, etc. Any of them is miles ahead of faggots like Matt Mercer.

I'd take Seitz doing a Garrosh-like voice in an anime over any anime dub cast. I think the only English voices I like from Anime are Spike, Goku, and Vegeta but that could just be rose tinted glasses.
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>>581944041
>why are they making fun of kungen?
Because he's one of those classic WoW elitists who thinks the game is harder than retail just because you have to drink after every pull.
The reality is, he's just bad and peaked 20 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by5fb_nzZp0
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>See people just standing in front of an enemy sharting at it without even kiting

What do we do about this epidemic?
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Retoilet is so hard bro
>installs a weakaura for the boss even twitching
>races changes to goblin for any slight advantage
>grinds several dozen characters and armor sets
>many of these characters are the same class
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>>581944740
The good timeline.
I want them to unrape the lore (will never happen)
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>>581944942
>minmaxing cities now
truly wow community is something else
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>>581944876
>>581944967
alliance sw chat is absolutely horrible jesus christ
im going horde 100% on release
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If Forever is made for r*tail players, then how come they didn't invite a single r*tail streamer to play test the game 6 months ago?
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kungen is based cuz he enrages the retoilets
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>>581944973
this new fog is symbolic of their attitude to this game in general; heavy handed, overdone, unnecessary.
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>>581944903
Yes
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>>581944996
I hope you aren't retarded enough to think a random proc for 5% of your own hp is the same thing as a flat 5% increase.
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>>581944740
I fucking love this picture
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Rolling a rogue for pvp on alliance is bad right? Considering all the humans can fuck your stealth.
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Raiders make up less then 5% of retoilets player base so why does anybody give a rats ass what they think the game should be like?
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niggas be like ORC SO STRONG when its just a shitty spell and atk damage increase every 2 mins
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>>581944942
Stormwinds auction house is like the same distance to the flightpath as ironforge. Stormwind is closer to a lot of content in classic, which is why it’s the main capital city. Ironforge has an easier run to the mailbox from the auction house, except for the bridge which you can’t blink over without getting a short blink. Classic stormwind is cool tho, when you’re in the other districts, you always see other people who are actually doing important things there. They aren’t just running around or idling, it’s like its own questing zone. Darnassus is definitely shit on purpose so that you wouldn’t idle there. That’s actually by far the worst capital city, you have to actually swim over water and climb a spiral staircase to get to the auction house.
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>recruit someone
>they gquit a day later
>repeat ad infinitum
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I haven't felt the lust to play WoW in such a long time. November is one fucking month away, I can't stand waiting.
What's the point of playing beta if you don't keep your characters after the inevitable wipe?
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>>581945107
>turning fog off makes the water look better
whatthe fuck
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so many people in starting zone compared to yesterday, they started sending beta invites?
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>>581943901
this is often because a show's english subs will be based on the dub track and not the spoken Japanese
this is extremely jarring if you understand even a little bit of Japonic, like myself
the worst recent case of this I encountered was when I watched Vampire Hunter D and the english text was completely different in tone and style to what was being said (and I am a complete novice to the language), and often lines appeared on screen when nobody was talking at all (because the english dub inserted a person in the crowd jeering, or random crowd members shouting shit in a scene that's supposed to be quiet and tense)
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>>581944740
jailers alive too!

So what retoilets want to brag about how hard their game but not brag about the actual game itself?
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>>581945173
If you are rolling on alliance why are you worried about humans?
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pink haired gnomes won...

they fucking won...
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>>581944750
What about morning sex? Also, what's the lore between Nightelves and Skyborne?
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>>581945072
>bluesky faggots who are triggered by le mean people in chat are going horde
so nothing has changed since 2019
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I'm an undead roleplaying as a hearing impaired jew after a bomb landed on my house in Tel Aviv.
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Alliance is the right wing faction. Only cucks play horde.
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>>581944642
t. making shit up
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>>581945173
>on alliance
Meant to say on horde, fuck.
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>>581944091
>>581944315
There are small moments I've noticed between sub and dub that get annoying. I can't remember exactly where but there's a moment in SnK where three characters just go "Eren! Eren! Eren!" for fuck all reason. Like it cuts to each one for that. And the English changed it to "Eren! Stop! Don't do it!"

also chainsaw man
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FE2elk98cw
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>>581945126
Never really thought of that, I just thought they had an affinity for nighttime but never gave it much thought if they were nocturnal or not
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>>581945291
is alliance trade chat just politics all day long?
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>>581945173
not really that bad being a horde rogue, they have to suspect you are around to use perception. shit for arena though yeah.

you also get to oppose the faction least interested in pvp so most players are dogshit
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>>581945132
There have been people posting sims where it's around 5% of damage
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>>581945247
You never keep your character in wow. If you don’t raid for even just one week, you’re now very behind and won’t ever parse. That’s essentially a fresh toon and you’ll be doing shit dps and getting skipped over in invites.
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>buff someone
>they don't say "ty" or jump
>forcefully take the buff back
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>>581944740
What if Arthas has a redemption arc instead? Is it even possible for him to somehow resist Frostmourne and Helm of Domination? Would be kino.
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>human male walks like a fag
Why
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>>581945251
I think the majority of players are bored of their level 20 and now doing alts. Most the streamers are doing the same thing.
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>>581945038
stormwind shouldnt be 1/2 the size of elwynn. mage quarter + cathedral district are 90% just empty space.
>>581945227
profession+class trainers are just 5 min of running every time after you get off the gryphon. it's just shit.
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>>581945349
In retail their racials had different effects at day and night iirc.
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The entire thing is a marketing ploy and to goad classic players into trying retail.
>retail abilities shoved into the game
>retail lore shoved into the game
>literally 0 effort put into the game
>already lining up streamers to promote it and play it
Aggrend himself just unbanned a streamer who got perma'd today for using AHK scripts and then apologized to him publicly on twitter (even though this streamer has been openly buying gold and account sharing, and was a <GRIZZLY> fag that would abuse report spam back in 2019 for scarab lord).

Aggrend is a fat parasocial loser that wants to be friends with streamers.
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>>581942175
I cant wait for all you piggies to stay subbied up and playing forever FOREVER, foreverly paying for new things in retail :^)
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>>581944041
kungen's entire personality pre-2019 was that he was a god back when the game was REALLY hard and that's why he's better than (you)
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>>581945498
OK having fun tho
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He'd be the only WoW streamer refusing to play this garbage and rightfully calling you all faggots for falling for blizzard's lies over and over again.
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>>581945282
I always use the dirt stache and mullet. Looks fucking disgusting, it’s great.
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>>581945247
>What's the point of playing beta if you don't keep your characters after the inevitable wipe?
to have fun?
>>581945426
fuck no if they rewrite the lore let LK be a new being and just Arthas.
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>>581945498
seething pservoid
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/2 SELLING 12-30 BOOSTS, ALL QUESTS READY TO SHARE, PACK SKIPS QUICK RUNS PST
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>>581944683
>stormwind peninsula
Oh shit you're right, that's cut alpha content
>>581944832
>>581944932
>Classic Vashj'ir would slap
Nothing pisses me off more than retail getting the absolute fucking peak which was the Vashj'ir zone only to ENDLESSLY FUCKING BITCH ABOUT IT so it never happened again.
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>>581944041
>why are they making fun of kungen?

retoilets are mentally ill.
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>>581944302
based
that gnome faggot malded hard 100%
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>>581945247
Nothing else to do, checking what characters i want to play, seeing what new quests I should do to get ahead of the leveling curve on launch day, pvp is fun.

I just wish other people were treating this like a beta. They are playing the fucking AH as if any of the gold they earn right now matters at all and it's annoying as fuck. I just want to test things.
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>>581945545
*not
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>>581945498
I keep hearing this but except for holy strike which has a fucking 12 second cooldown and does 5 damage my Paladin plays EXACTLY THE SAME
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>>581944302
why are you playing an mmo bruh
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>>581945528
Imagine being this obsessed with e-celebs you talk about them years after theyre fucking dead
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>>581945498
t. assblasted troontle troon
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>>581945227
Stormwind has a mailbox right outside the AH now. Truly retoilet...
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>>581945459
All the class trainers are pretty far honestly. Profession training isn’t really a significant thing, they included professional trainers in your third questing zones on purpose, you’re suppose to do the bulk of your leveling there. Then you have like one extra trip in a city hub to unlock your key profession skills and finish training it.
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>>581945331
How do Japanese even flirt? I don't think I've ever seen genuinely flirting with Japs
>>581945670
Does holy strike scale with anything? It makes sense at low level its weak and needs to be tuned
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>>581944302
>anons retarded
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>>581945392
I don't think this applies to the beta? People are saying whatever characters are being created now are going to be wiped for release day to give everyone a fair advantage.
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>>581945250
the graphics are so inconsistent
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>>581945498
It's always the Alex posters, doesn't he have a kiwifarms thread you could use?
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>>581944302
Honestly yeah I don't know what I would even say to them
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>>581945784
still more consistent that your russian pserf
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>>581945767
scales SP more than weapon damage they want paladins to be intellect mele rather than str/agi scaling now in forever
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>>581944109
>auto-sell junk built in
>auto optimal class training built in
>fully optimized talent tree built in
>instant quest turnins and accepts with automated optimal reward selection
>auto-deletes lowest cost junk item if bags full
>shows exact locations of every single quest item with specific information, no more wowhead tabbing needed
it's bis and I don't care what anyone says
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why are there so few shamans alliance side ? enhan is going to fucking shit on people and resto shaman will be good as always
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>>581945784
game does look better without the fog imo
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>>581944041
>lets all dogpile a man who isn't instantly a god tier mythic raider
why are retoilets like this? do they think even 0.01% of them would clear inferno if they started now and had a month of practice time?
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>>581945528
Yeah, but I didn't miss lethal at blizzcon and do a flip about it.
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>>581945735
I thought that was only on private servers. Do they give us free 32 slot bags and epic mounts too? Damn this games literally a raidlogging expansion already. No soul, purely streamlined straight to raiding. MMO devs want every mmo to be an online actionplat hack n slash
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What professions for a huntard?
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>>581945415
/ty
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>>581944302
you sound like such a fucking faggot rofl pic related that's how imagine you
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A question for experienced warlocks. Apparently they have some good dungeon farms at level 60 to make gold? Which ones are the best? Also I assume with how much they got buffed the farms will be even faster/easier? Though Blizzard might buff the dungeons as well.
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>>581945498
tons of retoilets seething at this post lol
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Owl, Boar or Cat pve?
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>>581945969
Leatherworking/skinning
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>>581944740
Deku...
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>>581944302
do alliance sissies really?
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>>581945331
>crappy dub and ai fake frames
Holy shit taste
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>>581945859
does intellect give spell power in forever instead of just spell crit?
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>>581945969
going anything but skinning / LW feels kinda bad imo, the gear upgrades are insanely good and beginning zones are usually filled with oceans of skinnables
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>>581945778
Yeah they all get deleted before the expansion comes out. Anyways you seem to be the target audience for this, hopefully you’ll sub to keep them in business. After enough time Blizz is likely to make a half decent mmorpg.
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>>581945969
you know the answer.
>skinning
>mining
get that gold, son.
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Would you join his group?
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>>581944302
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>>581945904
>enhan is going to fucking shit on people
Just 2 more weeks of coping and enha will become good bro...
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>gnome is balanced
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>>581945969
I'm doing engineering / mining for pvp but also for boolets. mining is supposed to give +5% hp I guess?
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>>581946061
>crabby dub
You might be gay if you don't like that voice in the scene.
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>>581945859
But only the 3-5 is holy damage, why would it increase anything but that pitiful amount?
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>>581945969
don't fall for it anon, there will be tons of extremely cheap leatherworking gear on the auction house what you really want is mining/engi
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>private server third worlders are now inventing stories about aggrend and streamers
literal mental illness
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>>581946068
ret gets a talent for it
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>>581946042
>>581946069
>>581946105
I kinda forgor about the new recipes for a moment. The last time I went LTW on huntard it didn't feel like I got a lot of milage out of it.
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>>581946204
a weapon swings for like 80 at 20, 25% of that is less than the holy damage + sp
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>have a heap of sand that I like
>some faggot comes in and steals a grain
>tell him to stop
>"why are you mad bro its just 1 grain? you still have a heap"
>he takes more
>"bro again its just 1 grain who cares?"
>no heap of sand
>faggot moves onto something else
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>>581946221
they are probably getting paid by crogge & shenna
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>>581945361
>they have to suspect you are around to use perception
Which they will if you're ganking at the area. Plus, like you said, for arenas it essentially destroys you. And if it's rogue vs rogue, their stealth detection doesn't break their stealth to use so unless there is a huge gear/skill difference, they'll win on you every time.
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>>581945859
Reminder that holy/ret shockadin will be the meta dps and tank spec.
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>>581944563
This shit is how mmos die. Autistic retards mathing the fun out of the game till no wonder is left.
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>>581946151
WOAAAH GNOMES SAVE 3 SECONDS EVERY 2 MINUTES THANKS TO THEIR RACIAL CD?
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>MY GAME NOW
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>>581946175
Her voice was good, but the Denji voice ruined it. Why do Dubbers think a 16 year old street rat would have a breathy soft voice with voice cracks? I already know I would hate the rest of the anime because I doubt the dub could do Denji's crazy demoniacal laughter well at all and Himeno dies in 2 episodes so her sexy voice is a nothingburger.
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>>581946221
they're just assblasted that their illegal money making scam got shutdown
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>>581945498
>goad classic players into trying retail
this has been the story since 2019 but it still isn't working and actually does the opposite instead
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>>581946151
>trillions of gnomes who hate them but will roll them for eureka
>stuck as a midge when they nerf it
>sell them all race changes
all part of aggrend's plan
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>>581944903
nominally, yes. in practice, no.
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Gnome rogue with red defias mask
I seriously hope they don't fuck up deadmines. Anyone got any info about the dungeon?
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>>581946151
Wow the lvl 4 pvp meta is ruined by this
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>>581946358
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>>581946358
so fucking based. hammers up.
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>>581946358
Fuck that fatass warty froglookin spic.
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turtle had better dungeons
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>>581946221
>defending streamers
low t.
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>>581946291
>crogge & shenna
too busy posting walls of text with a picture of an elephant every month to string along their paypigs
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>undead and orc racials are top tier by all available metrics
>meanwhile all the crying's about gnomes and humans
why are hordefags such crybabies
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>>581946151
how can anyone NOT go gnome after seeing this..?
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>>581946358
*burps*
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>>581946151
What's this supposed to prove?
>lvl4 paladin with 2x more hp
>lvl2 idk what
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>>581946249
This talent will get gutted or demand all paladins drop 28p in ret.
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>>581945969
Seems like if anyone at all plans to pvp in any capacity, not being engineering will be a big disadvantage. Gear and potions can be purchased. Engineering items can only be used by engineers.
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>>581946443
They added a ridiculously strong meta breaking item that has the stats of a level 60 weapon called Smite's Mighty Hammer. Honestly too retail for me.
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are opt-ins ever going to get beta access or should I just spend the money?
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Stormwind trade chat is so fucking cringe
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>>581944109
>never use questie
>get restedexp
>physically incapable of following directions for more than 2 minutes
>turn it off
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>>581946358
who would win in a fight, Towelliee or Kungen?
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>>581946372
Anon, this might surprise you but western males tend to be more masculine.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=209I7WLGxrI
Also Aki is a fucking chain smoker and watching weebs bitch about his voice "being too deep!' is fucking hilarious. Drink some milk and hit puberty you fucking fags
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>enter any chat channel on alliance pvp
>ASMON ROACH STREAMERS AMERICA EUROPE KEKW
holy shit please kill me now
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>>581946291
>>581946394
are these trolls or what? aggrend used to hang out with literal who streamers
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>>581946702
Stay strong my fellow poorfag. Invites usually go out on thursdays
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>>581946486
>>581946594
shill IQ on display
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>>581946358
classicsissies in 2019:
>GO BACK TO RETAIL KEEEEEEEEEEK
classicsissies now:
>WoW Forever is for everyone. let's hold hands and put an end to all the hate.

how did they get so buckbroken? what happened?
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>>581943817
please...
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>>581946667
so why dont you play classic
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>>581946730
YEah it's fucking absurd
I 100% will go horde because alliance is gonna be unplayable
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>>581945859
The devs desperately only want paladins to actually chase the int plate gear at endgame so they aren't stealing every piece of plate from warriors, which is a good thing.

Hunter/Shaman also scaling off int is gonna make them want their intended mail agi/int gear instead of trying to take every piece of leather that drops.
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>>581946501
>when you try the new warlock suck spell on yourself
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Do you guys make potions IRL?
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>>581946358
HAMMERS... FUCKING... *BUUURRPPP* ...UP!!
*sharts out an entire taco bell cheesy bean & rice burrito*
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Who should win in a duel between Rogue and Mage? Seems like rogue can control the fight easier assuming he can avoid polymorph and is a Gnome but idk
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Why do I keep hearing that you don't lose combo points on target swap in forever I just tried and that doesn't seem to be the case at all
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>>581946151
Woah you mean to tell me the level 2 with less hp died faster than the level 4? Zamn.. truly gnomes are the kings of WoW..
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>>581946510
I hear that and think of an obese belching norwood 6 drunk man barfing all over his chest and then weeping.
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>>581946358
They hated him because he told them the truth
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did i get the wrong cat
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>>581946730
surely there'll be some kind of blacklist addon that auto hides messages containing asmon / from the guild olympus
there was one on the illidan server for chinese text
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I'm sorry, girl with WHAT?
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>>581946885
I used to larp making potions in my front yard with dirt and perfume and water and soap and crushed up flower petals and cement dust and stuff.
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>>581945969
engineering and enchanting
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>>581946807
Classicucks kept squealing and kvetching at retail mythic mandigos.
Retail mandigos walked over, crushed their micro dick and balls and raped them retarded.
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is there any new shit in old dungeons so far?
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>streamers go pve alliance
>all their simps go pve alliance too
>streamers quit in a couple months
>all their simps quit when they do
>pve ends up 20/80 alliance/horde
Can't wait to see how Blizzard deals with this
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>>581946623
>Gear and potions can be purchased
All the new giga crafted items are BoP tho
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>>581946730
My only concern is that this will push retards to RP realms and infest those too, I was hoping the streamers and retards could be contained on PvP and PvE playstyles
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>>581946964
but isn't it entertaining. we got a real war brewing here and it's going to escalate.
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>>581944563
gnome are best for pvp and its not close
insta cast mini fap and eureka

gnome is BIS for warrior, rogue, mage and priest
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>>581947009
>those eyes
She has seen some shit.
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>>581947103
>
>>581947090
>>581947074
>>581947061
i cant stop farting.
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>>581947074
>>pve ends up 20/80 alliance/horde
Based
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WoW Forever was made so Aggrend could watch his favorite streamers, its why Hardcore was delayed as well, so he could milk it a second time
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>>581947074
Millions will be playing. You really think a couple of hundred parasocial losers will tip the scales?
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>>581947009
some shapeshifter I bet
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>>581947074
pve servers are always overpopped to ally so it wouldn't matter
and I doubt the streamers go pve anyway
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>>581947051
The mazed mandingo crushes the incel "cant fill raid slots" era player
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>>581944246
>just west of Blackrock Mountain
Very mountainous area, full of old Deeprun Tram construction sites and a gnome styled supply depot/construction site as an alliance base/town. The presence of Gnomish equipment and sites means you can have troggs and possibly leper gnomes.
For the noshoes faction you can pretty easily say theres defectors from the Dark Horde that are seeking safe haven under the horde. Burning Steps is right next to this area and by the time this could be turned into a zone the player factions would have really had their run of Blackrock Mountain, meaning from a story perspective the Dark Horde doesnt have much left, them running scared and hoping to get at least provisional membership with the Horde is plausible. A new base would be made for the horde, probably in that upper right area thats between searing gorge and dun morogh.
for other threats in the zone theres regular wildlife, gnolls, Dark Irons, and maybe some Naga since its also on the coast?
Not the most coherent idea but it includes both factions
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>>581947289
Turns out he was in the maze for your safety, not his.
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>>581947074
Only like azmon will be quitting but the others are still on alli because the racials are generally better
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>>581947074
asmonogoloid already said he's buying two accounts so he can be on pvp horde / alliance to piss off more faggots
and a lot of streamers are playing horde, like esfand
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>>581947283
Asmon already said he would go pve
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the ever increasing popularity of anime is proof that we are losing not only IQ but taste.
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What do you gain from running a paid bot summoning service in beta that doesn't carry over?
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>>581947430
source
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thc drinks do nothing bruhs
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>>581947469
Report him for multiboxing
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>>581946358
I know fooooreveeeeeeeer is about to blast off when the wow online discourse is this spicy. People haven't gotten this controversial in forever because yeah we all disagree on what classic+ should be.
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why do people keep saying mage got nerfed? it can't AoE level anymore, but who gives a fuck? ice lance is destroying people in pvp
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>>581947473
The first stream he did of the beta
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>>581947469
testing your bot software
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>>581947469
there are some extra retarded people buying gold right now
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>>581947009
couldn't say milkers so had to go with the next best thing
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>>581946372
>complaining about english denji
>check him out in english
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGF9Zu9AV_Q
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Do Japanese dudes just not have puberty or something?
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>>581947391
>full of old Deeprun Tram construction sites
It's a tunnel, it's underground.
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Is arcane viable for Mage now?
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Between horde and alliance which faction does better in pvp as a general rule? BG's and world stuff.
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>horde
>everyone sitting around peacefully

>alliance
>MUH POLTICS EU USA ASMON LAYER INV
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>>581947678
>pvesissy
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>>581947641
if by viable you mean your gonna bring one mage for AI yes
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>>581947678
>playing on a streamer server
its your own fault.
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>>581946919
I think the mage just always wins with no cloak of shadows, but the mage has to be good.
>two bad players
Rogue wins
>rogue good mage bad
Rogue wins
>rogue bad mage good
Mage wins
>both good
Mage wins

But then you also have to take into account consumes and rogues picking battles. If the rogue comes prepared with consumes and buffs and opens on the mage while he is drinking or fighting a mob the rogue will win and the mage just has to suck it. That's the benefit of playing rogue, it's dishonorable as all hell, but you're a dickass thief so /shrug.
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>>581944246
Northwind
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>>581947009
Single mother
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>>581947672
Alphas with higher testosterone levels tend to roll Horde and that lends itself to dominating pvp
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>you can skip 7 levels of some of the most iconic leveling zones in WoW by running a braindead, piss-easy dungeon 3 times.

It's about the journey! The open world! The interaction!
Insane that the same gullible faggots actually think Blizzard figured it out this time. This shit is dead on arrival.
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>>581947641
I like it, idk nor care about meta graphs.
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>>581947678
asmon is literally us though seethe more
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the fog does hide a lot
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>>581947678
>hmm why arent the chinese and russians talking US politics
truly a mystery
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>>581947469
>doesn't name the price in the advertisement
time wasting cunt
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>>581946885
Yeah I crush two beers and take two weed gummies and I begin to channel the divine
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>>581947672
horde had better pvp racials but alliance was better because of paladin

now both have paladin and alliance have better pvp racials

it's probably still alliance
>>581947772
nah mage wins now since the new pvp trinket can break blind
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>>581947764
its funner
>>581947769
there's only one server anon
>>581947841
ewww
>>581947879
just coexisting
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>>581946358
Never thought I would EVER agree with Towelliee of all things but here we are
Classicniggers are about to find out
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>>581947852
yea like the shitty horizon
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>>581947672
hordecucks will cuck themselves into 1 hour bg queues again so
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>>581947821
>running a dungeon more than once
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>>581947678
>Literally no one speaking

Soulless
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>>581947678
>"The horde rock no one talks!!"
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>tauren male, druid, feral, herb/alchemy
>troll female, warlock, demonology, tailor/enchant
>undead male, rogue, subtlety, mining/engineering
>PVP ruleset
post your 3 planned toons
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what should be done about the cat posters
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>>581947960
they will add mercenary mode anyway, balance will be 90/10
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Might unironically go
>Undead pally
>Orc Hunter
Thoughters on that?!
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>>581947832
CARE
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>What's your favourite ice cream flavour?
Vanilla (blue raspberry)
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>>581945261
we have good girl sylvanas not bad girl sylvanas depending on what happens to lich king
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>translliance talk is sucking their e daddy off via text because they are troons that sound like men
>Horde mandigos are in voice chat, can't type while killing tranny freeeeeaks
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>>581948149
hopefully LK kills her in forever and reclaims Undercity, and then we have a 3 faction.
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>>581948104
Orc Hunter is really cozy. There's either the elite scropian in duratar or that rare lion in mulgore that is fucking amazing
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>>581948132
Uh bro are you forgetting that all professions can make a level 10 blue item now?
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>>581948132
needs purple
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>>581948247
Sweet
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>>581948096
>retail features are ok when noshoe niggers are in trouble
nah
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>>581948050
>orc warrior mining bs
>maybe drop mining to grab engi if it's worth and I'm really motivated and raidlogging
>make a druid gatherer alt for my mining needs or whatever's good at gold farming if there's any juicy farm that a specific class can do
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>he didnt roll gnome for his war/priest/mage/rogue
you will be excluded from all BG premades
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>>581948050
>he only planned 3
undead priest enchanting/tailoring
undead paladin mining/blacksmithing
undead mage herb/alchemy
troll hunter skinning/LW
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>>581948106
Hmmm... no :3
*continues spamming arcane blast into missile*
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>>581948214
nice try but alliance is the chud faction, stay in containment chuddie
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>>581947772
>>581947925
Gnome rogue with 3x root break and smart use of blind/vanish seems impossible for mage to win against 2bh
maybe can win if he gets lucky with his blizzards and freeze procs though
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>>581948221
>arthas becomes the leader of the forsaken after killing the bitch and refounds Lorderan as a massive forsaken powerhouse
YES
DO IT
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>>581948324
>>581948050
>>581948335
so i'm guess you guys are unemployed?
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>>581948132
lmfao Blizzard literally cannot help themselves. It is actually scorpion and the frog tier shit. They are physically compelled to make everything they touch turn into press x for awesome levels of gameplay
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>>581948132
Fixed
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>>581947821
>dungeon 3 times.
The pserver troons really aren’t sending their best.
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>>581948050
>human male, mage, frost, tailoring/enchanting
>human male, rogue, combat, engineering/mining
>dwarf male, hunter, survival, lw/skinning
>PVP ruleset
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>>581948132
Don't forget that they made world BoEs actually useful now instead of just being shitty twink items to sell on the auction house
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>>581948132
NOOOOO YOU MUST BE DECKED OUT IN SHITTY GREENS THAT YOU WOULDNT REPLACE BECAUSE GEAR IS SHIT WHILE LEVELING
YOU VILL NOT ENJOY REPLACING GEAR
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>>581948437
>level all characters evenly
>always have rested xp
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>>581948132
can you retards stop noticing?
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>>581948415
a gnome rogue can pop eureka and ambush/backstab/backstab a mage to death in 2s

gnomes are just broken, yes. but for an alliance mage, especially a human or gnome one, they will beat horde rogues.
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>>581945992
solo DME with herb/mining was the best in classic but it's going to be nerfed for sure
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>class+
>people still seethe about SoD doing cool new additions like shaman and rogue tanks
make up your minds?
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>>581948132
just like turtle wow!
>>
I think the first expansion should have us visit The Dragon isle so we can have evokers. Then we go back to the shadow lands after that!
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>>581948050
>undead male paladin smithing mining
>orc male hunter lw skinning
if i have any time left
>belf female priest tailoring enchant
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>>581948132
Add the rest of the rarities little hog
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>>581948427
Nah, not Arthas WC3TFT ends with LK. They are one a new being, not Arthas not Nerzuhl. They can keep that trash Arthas story in Retail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErAXL5pspP0
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>>581948453
>getting all your gear from the AH instead of crafting it
Omg the SOVL
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>>581948616
>mage sits there for 3 globals
congratulations on ganking geriatrics
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>hunters get a casual 25% bonus health
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>>581948440
>It was fun to have all greens for half your time playing
>>
I wish totems still didn't suck.
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>>581948786
Qrd?
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>>581948529
This is; How Much Spell Power Each Spell Needs to Match WoW:Classic Damage in WoW:Forever

>a wow forever shaman with 700 spell power does less damage than an era shaman with 0 spell power on chain lightning

shamans getting giga fucked as usual, mages (and priests) on top
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>>581948415
Mage just fills the gap with engineering. 2 blinks, ice block your escape artist, bombs to catch you out, eventually they will wear you down. They just have better tools to kite people indefinitely and now with fingers they don't even have to stop to cast max rank frostbolts to do damage and at any time they can reset the entire fight with morph. Mage is just omega busted against anything that doesn't have survivability or a pet like a Paladin/Warlock/Hunter. Unless you kill them on your opener your chance of winning just goes down so tremendously.

But desu we have so many new professions tools to play with with new engi shit and all those different alchemy pots I feel like PvP is about to be an absolute joke anyways.
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>>581948050
>fem UD mage tailoring/enchanting
>male tauren warrior mining/BS
>PvP
>fem nelf huntard idk about professions yet
>forced to PvE
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>>581948568
Having shitty greens that you slowly replace with blues over the course of a long 1-60 leveling process is literally what is missing from the game you Retoilet faggot.
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>>581948713
Arthas is coming back on forever but he’ll be trans and disabled
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>>581948132
there's literally nothing wrong with this
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>the fog
the fog
>the fog
the fog
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>>581948813
doesnt factor in talents and new shit, warlocks and shamans will be raping everyone
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>>581948810
Why is 4:3 so much more KVNO?
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WoW Forever is gonna be back to peak comfy.
>low difficulty gameplay
>low stress, low expectations, play whatever you like, however you like, your own pace
>large focus on the leveling experience, side content, story content, fun content, social features
>endgame and raiding treated like bonus content, wont be relevant for 90% of players
>permanent level 60 cap, horizontal progress and doubled bank space means everything you do and comlect will always remain meaningful instead of the next expansion invalidating all your progress
>roleplay ruleset only with other people who pick the same, majority of rp players are chill even if they dont participte in rp, easily the most chill community
It truly has the potential to be the most immersive, fun, genuinely forever lasting game that I'll only stop playing when it hits eos or I die
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>>581948713
Arthas fully consumed Ner'zhul, that shit was solidified lore in Wrath. Ner'zhul is literally a useful idiot.
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>>581948050
>undead female, warrior, fury, mining/engineering
>undead female, priest, disc, mining/engineering
>orc male, shaman, ele, mining/engineering
I'll swap around proffs as they're useful
I expect to have BS and tailoring for a while on my warrior and priest while leveling
when proffs have been explored more I'll decide if I can drop mining/engie for something else
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>>581948851
>>581948847
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>>581948669
Instance soloing is anti MMO. Did they ever try to make group content the best gold farm? I think the closest I ever saw was mythic raid trash farm groups from retail, because they put boe mythic loot on the drop table which was worth a decent amount.
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>>581948132
This is how it should've been
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>>581948834
>blues
>retail
lol
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>>581948713
Maybe we can do some caverans of time bullshit? Like the dungeon leads to a new zone in the past?
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>>581948901
>undead female
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>>581948851
>>581948903

/console volumeFog 0
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>>581948813
I'm not taking any numbers seriously until there's live comparisons in both versions at 60 with identical or comparable gear
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>>581948810
>one bar
>8 slot bags at 40
it really was a different time lol, at least you had the drip
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>>581948813
Does spell power use the um... the thing where you benefit less for each statpoint the higher level you are?
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>>581945498
it's called retail because you keep retelling same bullshit every day
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>>581948886
Something about a cramped box that just says bideou gamu
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>>581948802
Yeah man you're so right. I just suffered through playing Classic WoW while my character was wearing green gear. It really bugged me. It was so horrible having to wear GREEN gear. Can you imagine that? Not be able to have optimal gear for every level immediately? Yeah it was so bad and everybody complained about it back in the day.
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>>581948813
hybrid tax fucking casters something foul I can't believe CL lost 66% of its base damage
worried that spriest will be god kings
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>>581948813
> shamans getting giga fucked as usual
Kek I’ve been saying that since forever got announced. Newfags thinking shaman will be OP lmao, lol. Ain’t happening lil gups.
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>>581948893
>Arthas fully consumed Ner'zhul, that shit was solidified lore in Wrath. Ner'zhul is literally a useful idiot.
They 100% rewrote that because most WoW players never played WC2 and didn't know who Ner'zuhl was. Friendly reminder that part was in the shitty Christie Golden book.
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>>581949039
Diminishing returns
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>finally do the quest where you beat the cult in zephras
>a big bad wind elemental shows up, says "you guys are fucked lol" and then fucks off to tell his dad
people are seriously mad about this?
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what would it be like if metzen and garrosh got together and did the kamehameha dance?
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>>581948050
>Dwarven Shaman, skinning/leather working
>PVE because friends are playing that
That's it that's the plan
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>>581949039
Diminishing returns
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>>581949059
gear was so shit in classic brotato?
gear with random spirit? cloth with str and agil
hello??? HELLOOOOOOOOOO???????????
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>>581948810
Holy fucking sovl. I remember being 10 years old playing vanilla on the PC in my grandma's room while she watched Doctor Phil and Survivor in the background. All on a 4:3 screen. Take me back
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Missed opportunity to revamp the Stockades and have it use this layout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU36fI-qhas
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>>581948961
Kill yourself faggot.
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>>581949102
>>581949139
I thought that's where you benefit less the more of the stat you get, are they just called the same?
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Reddit is begging blizzard to start quirkmaxxing and add more weird, quirky items to bring back that vanilla charm we're all hoping to experience.
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wn7k4n/we_need_bad_loot_in_forever_also/
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>ARE YOU USING PROFESSIONS?????
>TO MAKE USEFUL LVLING ITEMS??????
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BLIZZARD NERF THIS
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>>581949080
Friendly reminder Metzen collabed with Golden on all the core orc lore so you're just trying to yell "A FUCKING WOMAN WROTE THE LORE" like a looney troon
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>>581949059
you never played in in 2005
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>>581948132
>>581948132
is this real?
anyone not pissed at this doesnt understand the meaning behing the colors
green being uncommon
blue being rare
however blue clearly won't be rare at all if they giving them out like candy
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>>581948893
Yea but nublizz will retcon all that problematic lore, you do know that nublizz does that regularly yes? You do know forever is by fags from cali that make the dick sucking king blush yes?
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>>581943901
You don’t know Japanese
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>>581948616
Gnome rogues just seem so fucking good. Also one thing that is very much worth considering for rogues is that they don't need to worry about humans.
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how to lvl pala to 20 without kms
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>>581948886
It's more compact. It's like you have your own little comfy corner instead of being blasted with a full landscape at all times.
I unironically still use a 5:4 monitor for everything.
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>>581948813
Undead Priests confirmed best healers and best dps
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>nuked the extra specs from sod
>People unironically think they re getting new classes/races
Lol
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>>581949229
Metzen lost his touch around that time, women writing it made it worse yes.
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>>581949321
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>>581948932
last time I played retail, everyone was doing those 2x4 hyperspawn group things for gold
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>>581949059
Your expectations shift after long enough. I never even noticed I was only killing like 2 or 3 mobs before needing to eat to full until a rogue with full enchants and shit ran by me killing everything in like two hits. It’s a pretty huge dps increase, probably like 5 times more dps. I’ve never tried leveling like that because I play SSF, the challenge is much more fun to me.
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>>581948963
>finish Old Hillsbrad Foothills
>but at the end of the dungeon you leave and you are actually in the zone the Old Hillsbrad Foothills
>its a high end leveling zone that's bigger than it is normally and has reputation to grind and unique items to gather
That would be fucking kino
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>>581949039
that's scaling

>>581949139
>>581949102
diminishing returns doesn't care what level you are
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>blues
le yawn!
wake me up when everyone is decked in le epics
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is Gilneas confirmed as the new Horde city?
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>>581946358
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>>581949059
Yeah man you're so right. I just suffered through playing WoW Forever while my character was wearing blue gear. It really bugged me. It was so horrible having to wear BLUE gear. Can you imagine that? Not having to buy all your gear from the auction house? Yeah it’s so bad and everybody is complaining about it.
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was it truly a good idea to put everyone on one fucking server per type? Isn't that going to be overpopulated-looking? What was the purpose of that?
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>>581949321
We're getting new specs at least >>581949352
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>>581948802
It wasn't fun, but that's the point. You felt like a struggling poor ass retard adventurer, but then you got that SICK piece of loot and your dopamine skyrocketed to new heights never thought of before. That's that good shit. Slow rewards always feel better. Humans aren't meant to be bombarded with dopamine all day. We are meant to go hunt in the woods for 12 hours and then get a comfy dopamine hit when we return home to a deer roasting over a fire to fill our stomachs. Just watch tiktok while you play and you won't even notice your green gear, zoomie.
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>>581949395
post your big hairy belly
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Items being good for your class? uhhhhh we don't do that in nilla sir
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>>581949352
>No talents
>No spells
>Inherent hit/glance penalty for being a caster
Sorry sissy that's a hecking soulful item bad on purpose item
:3c
Sorry you just aren't getting anything weird or unique.
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>>581944740
would
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>>581948813
Smite sisters we don't even exist...
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>>581949407
>alternative history where the worgan join the horde
That would make so many people mad. I love it. Give the blood elves to the alliance as an extra fuck you
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>>581949328
He lost his touch right after WCIII and during the development of WoW? Blow it out you ass faggot.

>>581949253
Wow it's almost like the core of blizzard has always been in California man I wonder what type of effect that would have on the people who work there, do you hear a rattling echo if you move around to fast?
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>>581949220
this but unironically
dungeon loot is pointless if i can just craft a replacement a couple of levels later thanks to my profession
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>>581949119
> people are seriously mad about this?
No you got it backwards. They are mad to begin with then they look for any reason to justify it.
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>for the first time in years Blizzard released 2 actually hot women
>the dark ranger from WC3 and the Sky Elf from Forever
>NOT A SINGLE AI SLOP of either

Am I missing something here or are all AI jeets making things only for a comission?
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>>581949469
>what is phasing
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>>581949234
Account lifetime dates back to open beta in 2004. When I create new characters on era I get to choose from a Zergling, Diablo, or Panda pet because I had the Vanilla Collector's Edition box.

Go back to Retail you stupid nigger. You can have the Activision Jews feed you all the slop you want.
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>>581949352
Mages already melee a lot in classic haha. Like I watched the record speedrunner and he would actually train sword skill asap and start meleeing while moving. Because it’s technically wasted dps to not attack, mages don’t inherently do less with melee auto attacks right. Especially when there’s no AP scaling from gear at lower levels.
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>>581949321
They'll roll SoD stuff out in updates and make content that requires the SoD stuff specifically.
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>>581949469
The fatass at blizzard whose job it was to merge dead and dying servers wants to work a few less hours per year
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I've played every class

None of them were fun for me

What do?
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>complaining about blues and greens
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>>581949552
If you can't tell WOTLK story is rushed and bad after there must always be a Lich King, I dunno man. Though Yogg Saron is cool.
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>>581949547
>belfs are pretty much isolated from rest of alliance
>have to deal with scourge remnants, forest trolls and now with the forsaken all by themselves
They would be giga fucked.
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>>581949352
>mages now how to level sword skill to min-max a level 21 gimmick item
sovl
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>>581949059
Just because it's blue doesn't mean it's optimized you stupid fucking nigger.
It makes sense that bosses should drop blues in Forever because you're compelled to run the dungeon ONCE while leveling. Every dungeon run won't drop the item you want/need, and comparing it to a beta where everyone is capped at 20 decking themselves out in blues because there's nothing better to do than to spam run dungeons is disingenuous.
But classic niggers will beg for every dungeon run to give you a net total of (0) worthwhile items because they're comparing it to classic where spamming dungeons is optimized. They will also beg for every profession to be worthless and only useful for a handful of epics at 60 to pivot everyone into rolling engineering + mining again for the one 19938th because their mazed brains has deemed it to be the only acceptable professions despite there being several others.
Kill yourself.
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>>581949598
>not a single slop of either
way to out yourself as a newfag lol
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>>581949670
go back to retoilet
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>>581949525
312sp for rank 8 smite
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>>581948818
True but rogue also has the option to bomb his blink poly or use engi blink belt to catch too
You’re right about consumes and engi tools making pvp a complete meme tho. Can’t really say im too excited for it but w.e should be fun for a little while at least
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>>581949668
play another game mister
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>>581949469
good for us Aussies, we get our own latency but with the added benefit of playing with yanks if we need to pad our numbers
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>>581949640
>Larp larp larp sahuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur! I played in 2004 SAAAAR!
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>>581949276
Are gnome warlocks any good or just a waste of racials?
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>>581949321
new class was teased at blizzcon
new races (high elf) were confirmed in the Q&A
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>>581949598
>wanting EVEN MORE contextless unfappable over rendered slop
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>>581949712
your shitty slop for fags doesn't matter
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I've yet to be in a bigger city but do people in EU also talk about Asmon?
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>>581948813
warlock mildly fucked, boomie same, ele raped into gaping manhole, priest getting nice buff, but wtf with the mages, they were already busted af
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>>581949642
>mages don’t inherently do less with melee auto attacks right. Especially when there’s no AP scaling from gear at lower levels.
You still have fuckall STR and AGI from levelups compared to actual meleoid classes even without gear.
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>>581949824
Uh oh, melty alert
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I swear these same arguments were used when defending Ruthless Mode in Path of Exile 1, and no one played that shit either
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>>581949321
I miss mage healer and tank shaman so bad
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>>581949321
Let the shills dream lmao
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>>581949754
>remember how everyone hates FAP and LIP? well lets make 20 more annoying pots!
Aggrend you bastard...
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>>581949886
uhhh where the bulge at?
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Guys, why don't they just make every piece of gear legendary? That way, we can all be heroes and feel like the chosen one. Isn't that what we want?
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>>581949791
It’s ninja right? Melee spellcaster who uses combination charge instant casts and a release ability. I don’t think it would show up rogue, just don’t give it stuns or stealth.
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>>581949628
day one, all will be on the same playing field. I understand phasing, but damn the first days going to look like a fucking shit show kek
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>>581949497
ok joe rogan calm down it's not that deep
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https://www.twitch.tv/monkeynews
we are here
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>>581949942
i don't think we know anything about the new class, they just teased that they were working on one
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>>581949886
>no bulge
YAWN
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>>581949819
>being a faggot
Couldn't be me
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>>581949791
Sure it was. Like how DK was teased in sod lmao.
>High elf
>Next race
Ah yes, another belf recolor.
Veeeery new.
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>>581949926
>there you are champion, azeroth needs you!
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>581949926
>he's still chimping out

lmao fuck outta here, faggot
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>>581950014
>pe
>>581950010
>>581950009
>>581950005
>>581950001
When does the game get fun
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>>581950005
Thats not Kungen or Asmongold
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>>581949993
Even if they had servers day 1 would be a shitshow
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>>581950014
pick up a pencil lil nigga
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>>581949773
>the Retailtranny starts flailing from the rafters after necking himself
no surprise
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>>581949886
i want to see their uncut cocks
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Can you make the case that Vanilla WoW is one the best video games of all time?
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>>581949469
>already having lag in major cities in the paid beta
Oh god, launch is going to fucking blow
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these talentless AI sloppers need to kill themselves asap
they are worthless
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>>581946358
wrong, its called classic+ for a reason
it was, in fact, made for us
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>>581950150
yes and its not even a controversial take
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>>581950082
I wonder what markiplier thinks being the "father" of that creation kek
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>>581950150
unfinished game same people decided to release tbc and ruin the game for years to come
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>>581947009
>native american analogues run puppy mills
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>>581943901
>>581945006
I wrote this big thing one time about dubbing in the 80s and 90s versus now, and I won't do the whole thing, but it boiled down to earlier dubbing had a world of influence like noir fiction, old radio shows, voices from different mediums, etc., whereas modern dubbing only bases itself on previous dubbing without context. So it naturally became so derivative it's disgusting.
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They should just drop the SD models and instead update/fix the HD models that look bad.
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>>581950082
Dooming about the game is more fun. That's the real social experience of MMOs
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i refuse to play gnome, i really wanna play troll tho
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>>581950168
Hating AI is trooncoded
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>>581950243
>sitting on orcs
You gay?
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>>581950150
yes
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>>581950005
Why dwarf? This guy used to pick race only based on PvP racials.
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Torn between alliance and horde. On one hand, I heard horde is filled with faggots niggers and trannies. On the other hand, alliance is filled with "OMG INV TO ASMON LAYER" streamfags. What faction should I pick? (PvP)
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/experience-requirements-significantly-reduced-in-wow-forever-383038?page=10#comments

>simultaneously made WoWhead look like complete retards and gave retoilets fleeting hope that they were being catered to for a brief second before their hopes came crashing down
holy kek
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>>581950243
>bouncing on the BGC
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>>581950325
Finally some real culture here.
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>>581950243
ZAMN that orc is thicc
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>>581947009
Even the tauren are getting white washed.
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All my water is suddenly gone wtf
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Aggrend's podcast raped status?
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>>581950325
Nothing looks like this irl
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>>581944302
Have you ever socialized in your life, neet?
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>>581950325
>anon forced to wear the dress
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>>581950325
I just gooned, too late buddy.
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>>581950293
>>581950325
kinda funny
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>>581950325
add the cage outline...
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>will of the forsaken doesn't give you immunity
>you use it once against a warlock he can just cast fear again
Is this the most useless racial?
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>>581950325
Can't wait to wear my maid outfit on launch day :3
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heres your healer for the night
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>>581950389
sorry I was really thirsty
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>>581950371
not reading all that
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>>581950325
Gen him in a flat cage. Now.
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>>581950243
that playa orc lookin scrumptious
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>bosses drop blues
>long questchains give blues
>professions give worthwhile blues
NOOOOOO THIS IS HORRIBLE THIS IS NOT WHAT VANILLA WAS ABOUT I'M GOING INSANEEEE AAAIIIIIEEEEEGGGGHHHH METZEN SAVE ME
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>>581950325
The fate of all blood elf boys on horde who go healer
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>>581949642
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7O0cybmDL5Y&t=402s&pp=2AGSA5ACAQ%3D%3D
think again
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>>581949598
>the dark ranger from WC3
who the fuck wants to fuck a corpse
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>so incredibly bothered by a guy genning a hot elf girl that he throws a fit and starts posting gay porn
Faggotry should be contained in the containment board
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>>581950506
Destroying his boipucci with my BGC
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>>581950583
where do you think we are
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>>581950597
/vg/ IS the containment board.
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>>581950243
basado
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>>581950572
Can you at least make more different ones. I like the idea but we need more variety bro
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>>581948365
how's the mana management for that at 20?
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>>581950597
cute girl wearing cage isnt gay, its straightest thing out there
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is there any reward for hitting exalted with druid of the claw, as a druid? i saw some retard farmed it but wasn't a druid so he just ended up willfully wasting his time.
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>>581950360
asmongold already said he's gonna play both factions and possibly even make an account on the eu to piss off as many people as possible so you can't get away from him anyway
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> male
> Tauren
> Warrior
> named Adam Sellers
The Jer shall not know peace
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>>581950293
if being disgusted by state-subsidied international megacorporations charging monthly fees to let me be creative through proprietary algorithms is trooncoded then I don’t want to be basedpilled
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>>581950597
Who exactly posts anything gay here?
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>>581950679
shes hiding her cage pretty well!
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they fucked shamans in pvp so hard
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>>581950743
well he can't play both factions on PvP. I'll probably just roll alliance anyway.
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What do you guys think about a campaign in WoW forever for the alliance to reclaim the city of Stratholme? Especially if the blood elves join the alliance as high elves?
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>>581950082
stop posting s0ijaks from the 'ru nusoi it makes you look pathetic with the namefile
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>>581950697
if you mean the nightclaw druids on zephras the rewards don't seem to be implemented yet
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Okay so if you want to play a rogue for world pvp shenanigans you're better off going gnome then?
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Rogues are so fucking worthless that they lose to AFK thorn damage

https://x.com/ClipsForeverWoW/status/2101962227515326934/video/1?s=61
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I can't decide which race for priest on alliance, gnomes have the best shit but are ugly as sin, humans are mid, but with good sets. Meanwhile we also have dwarf that looks stupid with ok spells and NE, with best aesthetics but horrible spells besides shadow meld shenanigans
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>>581950556
>bosses drop blues
>questchains give blues
>professions give worthwhile blues
>NOOOOOO THIS IS HORRIBLE THIS IS NOT WHAT VANILLA WAS ABOUT I'M GOING INSANEEEE AAAIIIIIEEEEEGGGGHHHH METZEN SAVE ME
It's a problem when this happens in the span of 10-20, but even up to 60 the game will reward you with greens, what's the point of having rares if they're common even for a level 10-20?
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>>581950005
only semi decent wowfag to watch (still not watching)
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>>581950821
>well he can't play both factions on PvP
he and anyone else can if you make two accounts
his goal isn't even to play the game but to piss people off, so I'm gonna bet he's doing that
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> my face when creating a sky elf yesterday
Bros I'm worried about the new zones
The whole zephyr isles and the elf race reeks of retail trash
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give her a bulge
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>>581950908
is that faggot actually gay or just bein ironic i swear hes a groomer
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>>581950936
WE NEED SKY ELF PRIEST ON ALLY
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>>581950275
It's just filled with insufferable failed theater kids and troon sympathizers and they've monopolized and unionized the entire thing so you have to be one of them to get into their sekrit VA club. All the anime and gacha games they dub are just crap compared to more in house/alternative VA work. I'd say the only good ones to come out of that scene is Jennifer English and some of the other divinity/bg3 VAs (Neil Newbon and Malady/Narrator specifically), but I hate them all as people which makes me not want to support them. None of the Japanese VAs make me want to hate them.

Like get me the cast of Bloodborne and Elden Ring to do an anime dub. That would be awesome. Get Kristopher Judge (oldhead scifi nerd) and Trevor (practically unknown dude who is a fag but broke out as a VA from the usual chaff) from GTA
in an anime. Don't give me Matt for the 100th time.
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>>581950965
did all the quests on zephras and apart from having more scripting and dialogue than vanilla quests it feels entirely in line in terms of story
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>>581951002
You see, it's like when anon names himself George Floyd, it's a joke!
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Retail chads run Forever.
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
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>>581944563
you guys know they will actually balance racials right.
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Remember how at the start of every expansion, the first green gear you got would replace your blues and even your epics? The same thing will happen when you hit 60. Green dungeon gear will start replacing your pre 60 stuff.
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>>581950965
>retail
it's basically the same shit as bloodmyst isle from TBC, story wise
is TBC retail now?
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>>581950009
It’ll definitely be a melee spellcaster at least. Thats the only class theme that isn’t present in classic. What is monk and DH, I mean really. Thats just rogue or warrior with extra flair. Druids not really a melee spellcaster. It’s actually both, melee AND spellcaster. DK was a shit class probably, I think death grip is a great ability but not tied to DK. Yeah there’s no death grip in classic either, that’s somewhat MMO core. Maybe it doesn’t work that well, they had to give warlocks portals tons of different times in different ways because of deathgrip. Kek they could literally just take all the best spells from retail and give them to the new class. Deathgrip, karma, group portals, smoke screen, give it like a simple as fuck dps rotation which is the classic way. Like a dot to keep up, and a sinister strike eviscerate type of rotation. Heroic leap is also probably core MMO now. The big question is ability scaling, there’s already lots of competition for agi leather. But apparently with paladin being like the most played, adding another plate wearing class isn’t ideal either.
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SoD 2.0 btw. dead after onlyfangs 4
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>>581950670
Probably worst of the 3 specs by a mile, but you get new water at 20 + evocation so it's not that bad. In dungeons I haven't run out of mana mid pull/boss since things just die.
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why didnt they give ele some juicy mana reduction like the shadow and balance?
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sodapoppin is allowed to name his character whatever he wants because he is aggrend's friend
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>>581950774
Now this AI I can get behind.
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>>581944376
NTA but that's kino
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>>581950965
shut the fuck up faggotnigger

they look kino and GAR
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"We're going to consistently deliver new 10 and 20 player content every patch. Onyxia will be our 40 man raid. Classic players enjoy a casual experience, we don't want people to do 100 attempts on a boss. If you've formed the group and done your homework, you should be on the road to success. Over-prepare and crush the content, that's what Classic players want to do."

Forever is going to be pretty casual, just like vanilla.
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>>581951162
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>>581951071
you sound like such an annoying faggot
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>>581947678
so gross seeing subhuman language, i need my □□□□□□ back
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>>581951336
can't wait to have a bunch of people pretend to be mad about this
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Does horde or alliance have more orcs?
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>>581951336
We need mythic raids dood Wiping on the same boss over 200 times is fun dood
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>>581951071
There is so little variety it's startling. There is one "sassy girl", one "shy friend boy", "shy friend girl", etc. And they only base them on other dubs. I feel like i'm insane when people dont see it.
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>>581951192
TBC was always retail, just ignore the fact that everyone called Vanilla, TBC and Wrath the "Classic trilogy" for years.
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>>581951336
did AI write this for oyu?
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Thoughts on low level raids instead of just dungeons?
Something like molten core, with a very basic layout and a mostly linear path. It could have quests and give decent xp so it doesn't feel like a waste of time, while also introducing players to raiding before they get to the higher level content.
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>>581950774
more...and keep the glasses on
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>>581951464
Watching "HARD CORE WOW MYSTIC" faggots be terrible at anything else is really funny
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>>581951335
extremely attractive sexy skelf boy
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>>581951123
To be honest I just skimmed through most of the quests text because I wanted to potentially save it for when beta was out
It was more of the vibes, the voice acting on the elves... felt like this was the theater kid/LGBT race
Night elves aren't that gay
Hell, I was playing the warcraft forsaken kingdom, and they had an elf priest there, he was cool as fuck... I wish we got more of that guy
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WoW Forever was made so Aggrend could watch his favorite streamers, its why Hardcore was delayed as well, so he could milk it a second time
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>>581946151
>lvl4 with fortitude vs lvl2 without
What a great comparison.
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>>581951248
Sod 0.5 more like bro
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>>581951585
no one would do them like in SoD after their respective phase ended
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>>581951585
they did that in sod
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>>581951585
i've never understood why raids are level cap only
i don't see any reason you can't get 10 guys together for a leveling raid with better loot than usual
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>>581951643
>Aggrend
I like him more than Ion.
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>Euro hours
>Thread gets extremely gay
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>>581950743
why is that fag such an attention whore. I don't know how the fuck someone, anyone, can spend a single fucking minute of their lives following around that faggot in a video game. Shit is fucking insufferable. There is no basedjack to depict this abomination behavior.
I'm going to go on a smoke break. That guy is so damn gay. I wish a truck would hit him.
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>>581951464
https://youtu.be/-4qwNd7dxow?t=269
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Friendly reminder to mercilessly corpse camp every retoilet once launch begins.
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>>581950908
Time to make a meme diablo thorns build
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>>581951335
Smelly pussy boy
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Where are the PvP events?
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>>581951585
They should do obligatory raids for unlocking levels, like: you need to kill the last boss to unlock the next 10 levels and so on, for every 10 levels. Would be kino
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>>581951640
>It was more of the vibes, the voice acting on the elves... felt like this was the theater kid/LGBT race
the voice acting is very similar to belves
you're hallucinating trannies around every corner again
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>>581951749
Aggrend is massive streamer simp, only retoilets like him
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>>581951336
The actual problem is with raids being almost impossible to balance. Video game “difficulty” is often paired with unrealistic expectations. Because gaming is actually very simple, to actually make the player LOSE to a boss means they have to cheat basically. They have to have spell effects be hidden or hard to see. They need like retarded gimmick mechanics that demand instant reactions. It’s all just very anti fun. They turn everything into a bullet hell or parryslop because those are what’s considered challenging content. Shits like you’re expected to be playing tetris on max speed, it’s possible but not very entertaining. Otherwise we end up with tank and spank style bosses with maybe a soak phase and some aoe packs. Like thats incredibly easy but you just can’t make it any harder.
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>>581951774
NA is waking up, nice try
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>>581951749
I still think it's funny that Ion "proved c'thun is mathematically impossible to kill" and then we've spent years killing a buffed version of it on pservers and classic. How did he get his job?
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>>581951837
there's nothing wrong with some streamers without soda we would never have gotten classic.
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>>581951336
playing in a close knit 10 man is the best raiding experience. once you get to 20 and 40 man people that would talk normally stop and the whole thing becomes more like an impersonal mass of people
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>>581951835
Brother I don't think bouncing on male's crotches is a good look
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>>581951897
NA is at work
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>>581951835
>he actually thinks local hordejeets have enough money to buy a beta key
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>EU and NA intermingling in global server general and trade chat

>>>Europeans didn't know Americans invented Transistors and Semiconductors and think Muhammad Abdul Sadeen from Germany invented it in 1987
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>>581951640
>Hell, I was playing the warcraft forsaken kingdom, and they had an elf priest there, he was cool as fuck... I wish we got more of that guy
lol are you kidding? he was flamboyant and campy as shit, his va was the one thing that took me out of the story.
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>>581951835
this guy is an asmon simp btw
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>>581951002
Unironically straighter, more based, and better at WoW than most people in this general (who don't even play WoW)
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>>581951835
okay but what does you riding his boney undead cock have to do with any of that?
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>>581951835
Based OLYMPUS CHAD
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>>581952010
uncle tom
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>>581951973
except the Japanese created both
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>>581951842
Forever is like Super Mario 64. It's not about spinning bowser into a bomb 3 times, it's about the wallkicks you made along the way.
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>>581951206
Maybe wardens? Mail armor with priest/rouge hybrid plus some nature stuff. Some actual effects of abilities, just like you said, would be better stolen from retail
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>>581952012
He's posting here so that's a given
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>>581951973
>be eufag
>hate other eufags
>whenever I see some eufag chimping out I call them paki rape meat
>they go silent afterward
I am genuinely surprised I wasn't banned yet
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>>581951835
>CHRIST IS KING
based
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>>581951837
Retail players think a lot less about classic or anyone involved with it than classic players think of retail
/wowfg/ is more than enough proof of that
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>>581950908
And yet, hunters still beat druids that are eight levels higher than them.
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>>581944402
Shit, no server identity and most people are not going to remember the two name bs of characters not to mention it broke the mail + addon systems.
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>>581951903
>the virgin "c'thun is mathematically impossible to kill" vs the chad 30 warrior full wbuff with pre raid bis
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>>581952079
an IQ too high
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Wolfsbane is op

Theres a lvl 25 mob that drops a green sword 80-140 dps
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>>581951812
How do you know who is a retail player and how is a classic player?
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>>581952153
>no server identity
you identify as a server? oh my sis...
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>>581946358
this shill delirium will be really funny to look back on in retrospect after it's proven for the nth time that a game made for everyone is a game made for nobody
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>>581951973
EU and NA have the same chat?
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>>581951946
100% facts. 10 man should be the apex raiding content with the most demanding fights, but still nowhere near mythic retail dance routine bullshit. 40 mans should exclusively be spectacle content where the point is to see a fuckton of people firing off spells and exploding shit.
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>>581952139
shut up dumb christoid that jewish shit is all fake
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>>581952142
What's up with places like r/wow, r/competitivewow, r/transmog raiding multiple communities then? we can see your reddit profiles and every bootlicker comes from these subreddits
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>>581952247
yes on beta because its only an NA server right now its a giant mixed toliet i even see chinese getting mad at koreans in chat everybody is being super racist
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>>581952247
There is no EU server in the beta.
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Anyone else smoke while playing? I got fucking cigars ready for November.
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>>581952153
>my... my... MY IDENTITY
Your identity is Horde or Alliance you retail faggot
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>>581951585
Getting 10 people together and asking them to stop shitting their pants for awhile is harder than it looks. You need to actually dedicate a raid start and raid end time, so people can mentally prepare for the “job” of being a raider. We’ve seen them try this type of shit before, like look at alterac valley. Like half the people go AFK for free loot, the other half are shitting their pants because they don’t know what’s even going on or where to go. Then there’s like a few people who know what to do and pood before the game started and are trying to direct the group of people who have pants filled up already.
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>>581952119
>faggot cope
I'm not sitting on males. I also don't really care what you do or faction stupidity. I'm probably rolling a gnome just cuz their racials seem good.
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>>581952338
im not gay so i smoke weed
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>>581951946
Don't know why it changed in the past 10 years. 2016 raiding with /vg/ in legion was great. Everyone talked and we played shittyflute Toxic over discord bot.
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>>581952338
I can't smoke while playing at the same time because I like to hold the cigarette all of the time and never let it go so I can't press the buttons properly
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horde rogue which race??
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>>581952295
>knows about the comings and goings on several wow subreddits
Way to out yourself, classic redditnigger
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>paladin tank shows up
>Doesn't have 28p in ret
>Instantly rip threat because he has like 20 SP
Can't wait!
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>>581952204
fufu sex training when?
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im literally shaking and crying because idk if i should play pve or pvp. this feels like the biggest most important decision of my life and i only have 2 months to decide :(
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>>581951573
It's from some random site. It's infested with ads, so I hope whoever visit this shit have adblock installed.
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/i-spoke-to-the-world-of-warcraft-forever-team-about-balance-competing-with-retail-adding-classic-style-player-housing-and-more
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>>581952338
>cigars
>>581952446
>cigarette
Fucking gay vape like a normal human being
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>>581945023
Zhao rape
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>>581952338
I smoke weed to fully immerse myself in druid gameplay
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>>581951665
Oh nonono, can’t do that. Having good gear while leveling is not classic. You should ONLY have AH greens.
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I wanna play a dos that's rewarding to master, is enhance shaman good for that with the new talents?
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>>581952453
What's wrong with reddit? answer without starting a harassment campaign
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>talks of adding player housing
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>>581945528
>Blizz perma'd his account because he would play on peoples accounts and let them play on his
>Basically none of the other streamers that did this got banned
They wanted him to do it. I hate how the devs/CS manager will latch onto specific people to harass and just go after their account
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reminder to never reply to an anime/gacha image post
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>>581950774
i'm gonna saaaar it up a notch..
https://litter.catbox.moe/5x4os2q5l4jjyb1u.webm
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>>581952338
Nah I used to smoke Shisha but stopped
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>>581952662
turtle wow literally had ingame shop too
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>>581952514
>I would love some day to maybe take Player Housing and bring it into the Classic world.
This is the way they add horizontal progression.
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>classic is too easy, so the community comes up with a hardcore ruleset
>blizzard responds by making hardcore official
>blizzard learns nothing and makes classic+ even easier instead
>community is forced to cope by collecting gimmick items because it's just like muh 'nilla WoW
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>>581952584
A greataddition
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>>581952543
ummm what about dungeon blues that were always in classic?
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>>581952549
Nah it’s just rogue. Rogues the only class that can do anything skillful looking. Every other class is like a very casual friendly rock paper scissors environment where you just press buttons and win or lose based on class balance.
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>>581952584
the retoilets just have no shame huh
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>>581952338
weed pen 3 blinkers every few hours while sipping on lite beer for maximum immersion
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>>581952464
>palakek tanks
just bring a rage user
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so plainswalking is a useless retarded ability?
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>>581952532
>dood tobacco? that's so gay dood just smoke off your little smoking dildo with strawberry unicorn aids flavor dood
>>581952389
doooodddddd all of that is gay dood i only smoke weed hahahaha 420 so cool dood i'm so chill and watch my favorite cartoons like rick and morty while being stone as heck dood...
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>>581952638
FVAAAAARK that's good
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gnomes should've been high elves really
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>>581952481
After math homework
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>>581952452
Probably undead. Touch of the grave is good and you can remove fears. Troll only if you're aiming for a cheeky regeneration while in stealth which is unlikely to be something you'll be able to pull off often.

Either way, horde rogues are not as good as alliance rogues. Alliance has humans which can really hinder you as a horde rogue and if it's human rogue vs you and you're both starting in stealth then you're unlikely to ever win unless there is just too big of a gap in gear or something. Gnome rogues are also better in general against everything and they don't need to worry about humans.
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>>581952829
Weed is a white man's hobby, you wouldn't get it
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>>581952829
Have fun getting cancer and 100+ toxins
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>>581952584
i'm in favor of housing in theory but isn't the retail implementation absolutely overloaded with microtransactions
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>>581952731
You shouldn’t have those. ONLY bad gear.
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>>581952803
Plainsrunning is a better aspect of the cheetah
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good to see this is a foof general
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>>581952514
>I would love some day to maybe take Player Housing and bring it into the Classic world.
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>>581944062
>20 undead lock
I haven't died once in pvp. There jsnusttoo many tools and they seem to have nerf healing as well as mana regen that classes that can heal are cake. Surprinsgly rogues gives me a tough time during their opener if I don't have the succ out. If I do they get succ'd right away.
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>>581952770
I'm just informing the general population, I'd never bring an untermensch tank in the age of cleave.
But I guess the shitters here ain't pvmping....
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>>581952905
tt-thanks but im apve scrub lol
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Where's the void addon? My ignore list is already full
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>>581952829
tobacoo does nothing
cigars can't taste like anything
it's all a placebo effect for niggers to give their money to the smokejew
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>gachabrowns
Go back to your many containment threads
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>>581948050
male nelf hunter, enchant/engi, dire maul north solo extraordinaire
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anyone found the recipe for a chastity cage? need one for my sky elf boy
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>>581952914
yes it is
but the base system and non-paypogged elements were admittedly quite well done
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>>581952638
you bloody basterd bitch i redeem it
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Gimme memes/screenshots that I might be able to use to convince the boys to hop on this shit plz
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>>581952906
>Weed is a white man's hobby
Marijuana was banned specifically because Nixon wanted to put more blacks in jail.
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>>581952906
Weed is quite literally the least white of all vices.
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This image makes warrior and paladin tanks shit and piss their pantaloons.
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>>581952584
People have been asking for it since the start and it was originally planned to be in WoW, but got cut because they couldn't figure out how to get it to work.
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>>581952995
>pve scrub
Undead.
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>>581952906
Lol
Lmao
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>>581948981
UD male animations are much worse
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>>581953063
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>>581953114
cheers
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THEY'RE GIVING A NAKED GAMEPLAY MODE WHERE YOU CAN SEE YOUR BUDDIES AND GIRLFIREND NAKED IN THE GAME
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>>581953002
it’s funny that this image is supposed to be an own when they’re surrounded by cool friends at a party lol
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>>581952939
*stealths*
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blizzard HATES shamans, it is known
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>>581952947
I think they will basically they know why people dropped out of retail and so few came back. They just need to keep it simple for the gameplay mechanics while giving us modern QOL shit and housing to build the community.
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>>581953101
everyone likes bears, though. they dont compete for the other tanks gear
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>>581953082
What about khat? No white man has ever been addicted to khat.
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>>581953156
My Skelf looks like this and uses those swords
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>>581953171
the xiv thread is that way sis
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>>581953190
are spriests going to be OP?
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Can't tell if it's the classicsissies or the retailcucks who keep coming up with cope about being able to craft blue gear.
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>>581953190
this chart is extemely based. Mage and priest chads are winning.
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>>581952947
They should just rent out the empty houses in azeroth lol. Give it a monthly fee and people can bid on the next month. And a nice gimmick like setting your hearthstone there or being able to access the auction house or bank and a vendor. I don’t know.
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>WoW Forever is about the World
>I would LOVE to have my own solo instanced zone (housing). It would be hella f*ckin epic
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>>581949237
Most "blue" gear in classic was dogshit. Rarity means nothing.
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>>581953156
i look like this irl
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>>581953269
barely, mages though... wtf were they thinking?
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>mentally ill dad gamer boomers are having a meltdown because people are theorycrafting
not sure whos worse, retarded ass boomers or retoilet zoomers
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Tolkiens ideal world was gorging on food. partying and getting drunk and STONED off PIPE WEED all day forever and banging fat stinky busty hobbit pussy.

Weed is for the anglo saxon. Aryans don't get it.
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>>581953212
yeah, instead, they compete with
>rogues
>hunters
>warriors
>rets
>shamans
>cats
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ALL OF YOU TALKING ABOUT SMOKING, fucking pathetic anons. Get on kratom! I've been on kratom for 8 years. Come at me, son, my dopamine receptors make the aftermath of Japanese nuclear obliteration look like a kawaii slap in the face.
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>>581952558
Holy shit you fucking DESTROYED that queer lmao
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>>581949237
dungeon blues were always a thing
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>WoW Forever is about the World
>I would LOVE to have my own solo instanced zone (housing). It would be hella f*ckin epic
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>>581953328
Forever is absolutely not about the world. Thats why they made leveling faster and easier. It’s like 4 days to max on classic, forever is probably less than 20 hours.
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chat is this true
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>>581953190
>boomkin so irrelevant it’s not even on the chart
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>>581953384
dps sissies must learn to cope when their tank masters need gear. it is simply the natural order of things
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>>581953190
this is the paladin patch, when will you people learn, they didn't have two separate hour long paladin focused presentations for nothing
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>>581953190
qrd??
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so what am i supposed to do as a healer or tank? just sit on my dick? what are they thinking nerfing dungeon xp this drastically this will kill any dungeon new blizz is fucking retarded
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>>581944302
I've just been using that time to instill existential dread. Reminding them that they're probably over 30 years old and are still playing WOW and that they'll probably be playing it for years to come.
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flying toilets
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>>581953495
>>581953553
>>581953528
>>581953513
>>581953495
>>581953492

why arent any of the classes fun? i cant get past level 5 in game i just get bored
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>>581953275
I think it has to be in jest. No one is going to be wasting merchant's favor on their first character on low level blues when you gotta save up for your 60 gear and pack kodo. It only matters right now because level is locked and there is nothing to do but farm mats to do these crates. I've only gotten 3 crates so I can only buy two recipes right now anyways (and that's only because the first turn in gives you 50)
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>>581953367
whomst?
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>>581952908
There is a book called smoking is good for you. Tobacco alone has never killed anyone. There are scholarly reports done that modern cigs kill you because of all the bullshit they add to the cig. It blew my mind, but read the damn book so you can uncuck your shit. Jews handling tobacco is never good. Get original, organic tobacco with no additives. The way God intended.
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>>581953171
YWNBAW
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>>581953380
hobbits smoke tobacco you colossal retard
tolkien even admitted he fucked up because he forgot that tobacco isn't native to the old world
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>>581953490
>Thats why they made leveling faster and easier
This lie again
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post the BEST lvl 20 warlock pvp build
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>>581953328
People wanted Classic+ to be like OSRS, OSRS has player-owned houses. Now you complain about it.
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>>581953636
wrong they're smoking the devils lettuce that's why saruman specifically says
>The love of the half-lings leaf has clearly ((((SLOWED)))) your mind
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>>581953604
skill issue I just got to level 10 as druid and it's cool
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>>581953490
>to max
the max is 20 which is done in like 9 hours max
youre a larper
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>>581953476
This system doesn’t work actually. Because the item is actually just tied to the material drop. It’s a type of fantasy desire. You could and should just make the actual item drop instead of the material. The way crafting was done in classic is much classier, none of the materials are very rare but you do still need to work for them. It’s an actual job to go out there and farm the ingredients.
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>>581953415
I spent like 6 months taking a lot of kratom and it was not worth it. I barely noticed the high within a couple of weeks and it was just a waste of money. I don't really smoke pot these days either, but it's way more worth the money.
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>>581953604
Maybe play bf6
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>>581953490
Yeah I hit 20 in 1 hour. This shit is going to be a joke
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>>581944041
Retoilets are reddit snarkers, makes sense since they're all raging faggot leftist cunts
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>>581953490
Xaryu compared /played between era and forever characters that were the same level and it was nearly identical.
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>>581953693
i dont mind housing if its integrated into the world and not a solo instanced zone
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>>581953626
YWNBITAHP (you will never be invited to a house party)
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Balance druid is the only caster I have any interest in playing but I hate the giant cartoon chicken form, I don't want to be some fucking fastfood restaurant mascot in wow.
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mage or warlock?
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>>581953772
Stop talking to yourself tranny
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>The real release is still more than a month away
>I don't want to play a beta where my characters will be wiped out at the end
This sucks
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>>581944041
they dont call him the king of cryboomers for nothin
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>>581953730
You can definitely get 20 in under 3 hours if you know what you’re doing. You just haven’t noticed the massive time wastes you keep doing.
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I'M ABOUT TO GET THE BEAR BROS
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>>581953807
They're instanced off in OSRS.
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>>581945969
Excellent art, simply wonderful taste
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why is 4chan and reddit full of retoilets? meanwhile on twitter retoilets are getting made fun of
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>>581953849
Warlock for powerlevel, meta slaving, being better in both pve and pvp.

Mage for actually enjoying playing the game.
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>>581944262
Defending the tranny company by trying to label everyone else a tranny
Nah
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Housing should be in neighborhoods like in FFXIV.
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>>581953902
now the auto attacking REALLY begins
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>TURTLEWOW WAS BETTER TURTLEWOW WAS B-ACKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>581952223
Every server had a diff community, not that off topic posters like you would know about the game at all.

>>581952350
Thinking about that sort of stuff a lot, I'm sure your name is just horde or alliance then right and you won't accept any mail or groups?
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>>581953625
You could also just not fucking smoke lol idk why people are so into that shit
Having shit that isn’t clean air in your lungs is generally bad and if you want some stimulants you can drink coffee or take a caffeine pill or something
But if you sleep eat and exercise well you really shouldnt need anything man
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>enter my player housing
>loading screen
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>>581953190
This isn't including all of the new talents that boost dps.
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>>581953795
That guys a casual, he’s not first in any speedrunning categories. I definitely have better leveling times than streamers.
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>>581953625
Even if real Tobacco leaf is safer than the clippings you get from a cig, it's still inhaling smoke into your lungs and that gives you cancer producing carcinogens no matter what. Just like weed. Yes, they are both better for you than packs of cigs, but they aren't safer than a vape, and I'm unsure if Tobacco kills braincells like alcohol, but I know at least weed doesn't.

I still think nicotine and thc, while maybe not killing your brain, do wire it in a way that could become unhealthy at least mentally if not physically so even edible weed probably isn't the "best" for you. Being straight edge is obviously the healthiest, but least fun.
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>>581953190
At least enh gets a lot of free sp hahahah
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>>581953973
That's how they are in Retail.
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>>581953963
whats the diff
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>horde skelves not available due to pop imbalance'
lel
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>>581953747
mind sharing what kratom you took? I take red. I wish I could get off of it but the withdraws are extremely hard on me for some reason. Did you get withdraws getting off it?
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>>581953745
>You could and should just make the actual item drop instead of the material.
No, you shouldn't, because then the profession is useless.
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>>581953892
>massive time wastes
Like playing video games?
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>>581953745
> The way crafting was done in classic is much classier
Was fucking shit. There’s a reason 99% of players were engineering and the remaining ones were alchemy or enchanting.
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>>581953190
Okay. Fuck. Maybe I'm not going to play Elemental after all. I'm assuming they were conservative because Overload exists. But it's a really fucking weak version of Overload. :|
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turtle wow had better dungeons, why couldnt microsoft at least try?
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>>581953528
Ret, specifically too.
There is no universe in where you don't take int to HP/SP.
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Whats the race that gets a lvl1 wand again?
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>>581954001
damn can you imagine how happy those guys in the camo must be? they somehow lucked out of becoming trenchmeat and instead get to forcibly detain other random guys back home and throw them on the meatwagons to become trenchmeat instead. They probably fuck the wives and girlfriends of all the trenchmeat they send off too.
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>>581953795
He also showed his mage pulling 4 mobs at the same level even though his forever mage had better gear and they both cleared the group of mobs in about the same amount of time.
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>>581953625
Pure nicotine isn't a carcinogen but tobacco is. Even if you chew the leaves you'll get throat cancer.
Not to mention smoking rapes your lungs.
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>>581953190
>warlock wil lbe unstoppable guys trust the plan
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>>581952708
turtlewow didnt cost 180€ a year and it was a better game.
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>>581954065
nicotine is being said to prevent Alzheimer's now. For what it's worth, I don't breath the smoke into my lungs, but I get where you are coming from.
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>>581954064
Why the fuck should anyone care about speedtrooning?
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>>581954231
which ones
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>>581944701
Pedophile janny namefag called Gardener who posts child porn on /b/
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>>581953982
Yeah and it’s fucking stupidly designed. Nobody is interested in that. They only did it with that one item, and it’s still not significant, getting the crafting material is the important part.
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>>581954125
Yeah, I had withdrawals for like a week. I took both green and red. Whichever I could get at the local jeetmart when I spent a couple of years living in Portland (would not recommend). Might not have been able to kick that shit if I hadn't moved to the middle of nowhere. Totally regret ever bothering with it.
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>>581954231
wrong, avatartranny
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>>581954117
what? right now?
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>>581953625
>There is a book called smoking is good for you
Cigarettes have tar and over 100 toxins in them you fucking retard
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>>581954345
Neurological stimulation prevents alzheimers
Caffeine does the same thing
So does doing puzzles and shit
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>>581954341
>turtlewow didnt cost 180€ a year
They stole blizzard IP, maybe thats why

>it was a better game
Only in your troon head.
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>>581954341
So true xister!! Why can't blizzard add my programmer socks to retail-???
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>>581954465
>>581954465
>>581954465
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>>581954424
yes
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>>581943920
Noshoes Bill
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gotta say enjoyed the beta, but WOWF made me realize how much I hate the current youtube media, nobody put in any work anymore, I just wanted a short summary of all classes, and most videos are either streamer bros reading shit of wowhead or xitter, nobody test shit themselfes anymore, videos are also no longer cut, you mostlikely just see gameplay of one class while some wanker is talking making shit up about all other classes, say about bald retard preach what you want but that guy at least put in some effort back in the day
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>>581954231
>pictured: turtle wow dungeon design
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>>581954190
That was the correct way to do it. Blacksmithing, leatherworking and tailoring crafts did actually have niche value all throughout the game. It was actually a really intelligent design decision, to make everyone go engineering. Because it meant you’d need a profession alt, or to trade on the auction house. I’ve actually studied this billions of times about what they did here with professions.
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>>581954494
holy shit you could buy a portable vendor?
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>>581945919
the clip in question displays legitimately debilitating levels of impaired situational awareness

it has nothing to do with being a "god gamer" he's just a literal retard
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>>581954372
>>581954398
>>581954581
i havedone all dungeons on turtle up to late 40s and they were all very good they even added stuff to old dungeons, why couldnt microsoft do better?
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>>581954632
which ones
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>>581954581
God, Crescent Grove is such a steaming pile of shit, kek.
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>>581951835
>meanwhile
>the raped male returns to be raped again
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Which race for priest? Gnome?
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BLIZZARD HAS MY BEST INTERESTS AT HEART. WE GOT THIS BROS FOREVER HYPE FOREVER HYPE
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>>581954016
you don't need sodas to farm kidney stones nor goyslop to clog your arteries nor alcohol to speedrun liver failure yet you probably still keep consuming those products
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>>581954581
what the fuck is that mob grouping?
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>>581954689
dragonmaw retreat, that one in balor island where the last boss mc's you and crescent grove were the custom dungeons i've done
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>>581944750
Fap before posting.
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>>581954029
You think Elemental is getting more damage out of its talents than any of those other classes? Have you seen the Warlock tries?
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dwarf shaman reporting
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>>581954736
Nelf shadow
Human holy
Gnome overall
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>>581954231
>>581954632
are you playing your humie warlock?
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>>581944041
>Kungenposting
That reminds me whatever happened to Sco?
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>>581954016
its the healthiest way to lower your inhibition, alchohol makes you nonfunctional and fat, harder shit fucks you up. i guess weed but that can fuck with your mind smoking just makes you not really give a fuck, vapes and pouches and all that dont do it you need tobacco
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>>581954581
Jesus Christ. It genuinely amazes what steaming pile of turds pserver players will accept just because it's free.

Based Blizzard for nuking that shithole server along with Ascension. The last pserver I ever respected was Nostalrius.
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>>581944246
>>581947779
Northwynd forrest.
Its exactly like elwynd forrest but more north.
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>>581954597
yeah, repair bot also sold reagents
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>>581944246
mulgore 2
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>>581944302
>lowkey
try and use more believable bait next time
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>>581948453
so is most of that crafted or dungeon or world drop /quest stuff?
Follow up question:
Should i bother with crafting or just sell the craftards materials and move on with my life?
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>>581954781
I-its okay Skyborne are totally really g-good
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>>581956878
I'm blue, da-ba-dee, da-ba-di
Da-ba-dee, da-ba-di,
da-
ba-
dee,
da-ba-di
Da-ba-dee, da-ba-di, da-ba-dee, da-ba-di
Da-ba-dee, da-ba-di, da-ba-dee, da-ba-di
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>even a shitty turtle wow dungeon like crescent grove is better than anything microsoft will put out in forever
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>>581954064
>leveling is too fast!
>also im going out of my way to level as fast as possible
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>>581944376
If he does not use that name he's a faggot.
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Guys with the megaserver you're always gonna have to travel with a crew. Based solely on the beta alone Horder gets fucking stomped. They're always outnumbered and the Roach King effect is felt throughout PVP. We need to consolidate into one guild, not one ally and one horde guild, we need a united /wowfg/ guild.
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>>581943964
>gnomes get the best racials
>gnome priest gets the best racial
>gnome females get the best facials
What was blizzard thinking?
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>>581944132
Min-maxers will ruin anything and everything anyway. No point considering them and their bootlickers.
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>>581960519
principal skinner over here
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WoW2: Electric Bluecuracao
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haha i do a laff whenever mcconnell begs streamers for money and they give him like 1-2g
it makes me so PogChamp
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>>581961923
are you lost? this isn't twitch chat zoomie



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