>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4thOld>>582014307
retail minus
Why would someone choose to play on PvP if you can't herb or mine or skin
im gay
>>582037742it's fun
What is wrong with blizzniggers
Patch predictions?
I like skyelves more than blood and nightelves
God I fucking love sex elves.
>>582037797>he thinks hes getting classic rag in forever instead of the cata version in the revamped molten core
>>582037742you can, just kill the people contesting you. you can't stop them from stealing your nodes on pve
>>582037691I uhhh might need to brush up on my classic hunter skills i guess lol
>>582037742>bots running freely taking all the nodes with no counterplayno thanks I'd rather kill them instead.
why do we dislike retail but like retail minus?
>>582037947your pet has a friendliness level from unruly to best friend which gives it skillpoints which you use to teach it stat buffs and active skills
>>582037898He's extremely bad at pvp. That's why he's a pve bitch.
I won(You) lost
>>582037646>"AI is so cool it enables me to do the work of 3 teams by myself and it writes better code than anyone in the world!">"cool can you fix these basic performance bugs and memory leaks and optimize some things with your increased efficiency?">"uhm no, sry"
Is the beta just gonna keep going up until release?
>>582038076At a trainer i believe?
Fishgods, where we at
>>582037987>bots running freelybots run freely on pvp because you get mass reported
>>582038104it ends like 2 weeks before release, during that time they will likely fix none of the bugs or design problems because they never fix anything from ptr in retail
>>582038162I shall once again pay for my first mount with Oily Blackmouths.
>accidentally made a friend while questing in redridge and she added me to BnetFuck now i cant play the game without being asked to group up. And if she’s single she’s gonna start sexting me which always either ends up being a fat/ugly or she’s hot af but i have a gf already… i cba…
>>582038221you lierally can
Tfw no boobanon gf to bully me after pocket healing her all day
>>582038162everyone knows about the tanaris pools
>>582038159yes you have to learn from the pet trainer and then use the pet training skill you got on your hunter for each petactive skills other than growl come from different mobs in the open world though so you will need to catch another pet to learn higher level claw for example which you can then teach your current pet assuming it can learn claw
>>582038162What do you use to automate fishing?
>wanted to go ele shaman>it fucking sucksnow what
>>582038292>automate fishingbecome brownoid
>>582037841they add the S.E.L.F.I.E. camera but it can only be used for upskirts
>>582038342We know no one is manually fishing in WoW and hasn't been for many years
>>582038306Continue as ele shaman
>>582038034It's actually classic+ though (non-ironically)
>>582038292i fish with a controller.
>>582038306If it's not fixed by the end of the beta I'm going to play something else. But I'll wait until then and see. So I guess just figure out your backup picks in the meantime.
>>582038306Hope that since this isn't classic they are not shackled to a 20 year old version's balance and they will actually make changes.
>>582038306I wish I could kill people like you. Can you explain how it sucks or are you using beta performance to make your decision?
>>582038306>dual spec resto>steal all huntnigger and spellpower gear>ele no longer sucks
>>582037742>fat fucking cow called "milk this" reaches node 0.1 seconds before you>cant do anything about itimagine living like this
>>582038515The fact that they've hardly done any updates on the beta is concerning. Both for balancing and for bug fixing.
>>582038560im level 20my lightning bolt takes 2.5 seconds to castit does less damage than my autosIT SUCKS
Anyone here tanked as paladin? How much does it suck?
>>582038306Same.Fuck Blizzard. I'm so fucking mad. Ele is unfathomably FUCKED.
>>582037890i can't compete with CHADzerothian humans i'd already have cummed my pants by that point
>>582038609>suckIt's really fucking good and only going to get better with levels.
>>582038609Prot Paladin can solo RoL
how is this fair?
>>582038608Your spellpower gear?
real new patch tomorrow. trust the plan patriots.
>>582037797the lava looks like poop though.
>>58203874780
>>582038608ur totems still work tho? and bloodlust eventually?
>>582038726It's not. It's fucked and people are mad. Pray that Blizzard fixes it quickly.
>CLASSIC + server>So, uh, this is my character>he is kinda decked>lvl20, all blues, 1500hp, 60 spell power>however>fuck retail players with their ideas! you won't turn my game into retail! Twitter and reddit are very funny right now.
>>582038795>bloodlust eventually?Enhance gets a weaker, solo Bloodlust as their capstone. But BL/Heroism aren't in the game.
>>582038887>But BL/Heroism aren't in the gameyet
Anyone else in their 30sI'm 34
>>582038886>deckednerd fell for it.
>>582038726Stop playing sissy casters and everything will be fine.
Dwarves and gnomes are soooo lame bro no wonder everyone is rolling Horde
Is the game up rn? im getting no realms found.
>>582038560Dumb nig.>Spell base damage butchered more than any other classes>Spell power needed to match classic far higher than any other classes>Elemental Mastery removed from the gameIt's complete fucking shit. Ele is the worst spec in the game by a mile and it's not even close. Spells have long cast times, cost lots of mana on a class which goes oom faster than any other class and they deal no fucking damage
>>582038726Doesnt factor in talent changes
>>582038664>>582038719Is having the taunt tied to judgement a problem/unfun? I'm worried I'll only be pressing 2 buttons every 10 seconds until the swift judgement talent just to save it in case I need it, and struggle with threat.Is it fun?
>>582038726>NOOOO LOW LEVEL SPELLPOWER GEAR IS LE BAD>WHAT DO YOU MeaN BLUE DROPS??? #NOTCLASSIC>WAIT MY SPELLS SUCK???>AAAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEE HELP ME FATMAN!!!1last few days have been a wild ride
>>582038991cancelledgame floppedback to retail
I will still play ele shaman because I like shooting lightning :)
>>582039050nerfed blues that drop abundantly and have the same effect of Classic whites
When are they adding highmountain?
>>582038791That is clearly smoke, dear unimaginative tardo.
>>582038886none of that will happen at launch because you could instead be lvl 35 on your way to 60 instead of sitting at 20 doing useless dungeons
>>582039026>>582038726>chain lightning crucifiedlmao, glad i dont play a shaman
>>582039028yea man all the 5% increase damage talents will surely change so muchretard
>>582038292rebind interact key to spacebarturn game sound to 100% and everything else to 0%wen you hear the noise press space
I wonder if gnomeregan is available up to the warper, when I killed a gate guard 5 gnomes ran out so there has gotta be something there
>>582039069Nice bulge
>>582039028Read the talents you mongoloid. Elemental gets worse damage talents than the other classes on the list besides Shadow.
>>582039026it could be worse you could be a rogue lmao
>>582038726Jesus fuck at warlock. Affliction has close to the same talents as vanilla beside the crit one however affliction crit fucking sucks. The fact that I will need 500-600 sp to reach what a blue geared warlock needs in vanilla is ridiculousFix your game
>>582039048No, it's fine. You'll be chill. Just use it as normal. It's a really good spec.
>first respec>1g>second respec>5gyou better lock in your builds early, no mistakes
Do you think they're going to add pocket dimensions to zones for new contentOrWill they stretch the continents to add new zonesOr Will new zones grow like tumors on the old content
>Me when I decide to roll an Elemental Shaman on Forever
>>582038034>anime poster with dogshit takebusiness as usual
>>582039320theyll just copy+paste zones from retailphased zones like icecrown in wrath
>>582039320we can go underground
>>582039305Out of all the changes they made I can't believe they kept this bullshit in the game.
>>582039320It's going to be all of the above. New shit squeezed into areas on the map like Shendralar, new shit that expands it like Riverglades, new shit elsewhere like CoT.
>>582039320Looking at https://hyjal.cc/map there's still plenty of free real estate.I'm confidently optimistic in that regard desu
>>582039112it spins around him you nincompoop. it's the cooled basalt on the edge of the lava.
>>582039406at least you can dual specc.
>>582038465this looks comfy, might plug in a controller for the first time in years
>>582039454Thank fucking god for that.
>>582039454Do we know when we unlock it?
>>582039495Nope. We also don't know if it's free or will have a cost to unlock.
>>582039495100g and level 40you have two choices, your mount or dual spec
>>582039469did 1-10 on controller after thinking it would be shit and it was actually comfy. swapped to KB+mouse for dungies though
Layered megaservers are peak antisoul
>>582039536Im playing with both from the startits amazing that both have their own keybinds
>>582039524I'll rape Aggrend if this is true.
>>582039442Yes it spins, but it's clearly smoke.
>375mb update What did they fix
>>582039568would you prefer no layerererererererererererererererererDuhn-duhnwow.exe has stopped responding
>>582039624buffed hunters (again)
>>582039624My hemorrhoids.
>>582039524I dont see much value in dual speccing while leveling so Ill take the mount.
>>582039603what color is the smoke in that picture? poop colored?
>>582039624mac performance, real patch is tomorrow
>>582037890no one cares faggot
>>582039642Anything but layers
>>582039624nothingit's going to be fucking funny when the current state of the beta is what we're getting for releaseall the big changes they talked about will come post release
>>582037890samehttps://litter.catbox.moe/aavxgy.png
>>582038726>trusting nu-Blizz to balance anythingenjoy your OP dev class paladin and shit everything else, kiddo, that'll be 15$ :^)
>>582037659qrd on the blue elves
rate my name
>>582039671You know what, I don't care what you think Ranjeet, you with your head canon that Rag is surrounded by whirl of poop, I'll go with smoke.
>>582039712It's not #nochanges, sweaty, there will be changes all the time : ^)
>>582039749Made me smile
>>582039749>not Yerbekyou had one thing
>>582039749reddit-tier
>>582039806k i n oino
Elebros, give it to me straight...we are going to be fucking dogshit, aren't we...
>>582039748They're for sex.
>>582039749go to fucking bed aggrend this shit isn't going to fix itself
>>582039767you have the same viewpoint as the tranny cata artists that ruined wow. bold of you to call me names.
It's such a strange decision to lock an account's PVP experience to just one faction by having only 1 PVP Megaserver.Baffling. I am convinced that they'll add a second PVP Megaserver.
>>582039806>Accidental find, no markers on the map, no clues. I love this game.this is what you 'SOVL' faggots sound like
>>582039806retail- no sovl
>>582039806Proper distant terrain shadows do so much to scene it's amazing.
devilsaur downsovl
>>582039887seething mudhutter
>>582039861Just hope they're not completely blind to the problem and fix it with all the time they still have to do so.
>>582039921my gf on the left
>>582039921wow, the powercreep is insane!
Make it happen Blizzard. No Aggra. These two fit each other as fuck.
Does anyone know if they changed the attack speeds of hunter pets or are they the same as classic?
DUDE WHAT KATRANA PRESTOR IS ONYXIA WTF?
>>582040012I really can't believe they invented Aggra and never went with this. It just seems so fucking obvious.
>>582039886No cause then they turn into mono faction servers over time as people slowly identify a server to a faction. 2019 was a test tube of mass server death.
>>582039121As the person who actually played Classic+ on Turtle and CoA, I can tell you are wrong. You will still be decked close to max because you can.
>>582040012>bring back love in lovecraft
>>582039768I believe it when I see it
I don't if I should play Pve or RP server. Send help. As an alliance player that doesn't want to end up on an empty server, where should I go?
>>582039748comfy starting zone and they look and sound better than the other elves
>>582040117>As the person who actually played Classic+ >on Turtle and CoAhow embarrassing..
>>582040190>paid Microsoft corpo shillhow embarrassing...
so spergs have calmed down on the elves?
>>582040150>empty megaserver
>>582040012I'm not sure Jaina will be able to fit Thrall.
Post youre face when they add the Undermine vehicle mechanics as a minigame to Thousand Needles track.
>>582040223half of them probably bought the good goy pack let's be real
>>582040012Jaina will never exchange a dragon dick for a smelly green orc
>>582040150Play on whichever server the streamers aren't using. It's not hard.
>>582040150just play PvP seriously few times you get raped shouldn't be an issuePvP is healthier and has more fun moments
>>582040223nah you're still crying that people don't like them
>>582040150RP. I'm sure it won't be empty. But you should be ready to at least have an RP name there.If you're not willing to do that then just go PVE.
>>582038278Alright is there a skill i can use to kinda analyze pets in the open world on which skills they got?
>>582040264its just going to be gambling
>>582040223No, he still posts his retarded futa slop.
>>582038465>i fish with a controller.damn no more clicking with the mouse and accidentaly moving the camera
Are they gonna do anything with him in Forever
If they add RP-PVP , then they have to add PVP 2 or else non RPers will use RP-PVP as their other faction slot.And I want them to add RP-PVP.PVP belongs to RP anyways, it is a dynamic world feature.
>>582040150RP will be the lowest pop since they normally have fewer servers.
>>582040012I mean why not, who hasnt fucked Jaina at this point? Garrosh might as well have raped her on top of the Theramore crater
>people will seriously try to convince you the HD models are better
>>582040382never going to happenrp-pvp is a dead meme
>>582040418Both of these look awful but right is nominally better.
>>582040418i don't try to convince people of obvious and self-evident things actually
Will there be ERP on forever? Will (You) go slay some elf pussy?
>>582040441RP-PVP actually makes the PVP cool. And it also makes the RP have an interesting mechanical context. It's good all around. Not a meme.
>>582040457rofl. >I'm a wight... with pretty eyelashes!
>>582040382Congrats you just found out why there won't be an RP-PVP.
>>582040034seem to be the samedamage is normalized so attack speed will only matter for pvp pushback
>>582040418is that zombie wearing eyeliner
Did Asmon do anything exciting in his last stream? I was sleeping
>>582040351I remember doing this guys quests on CoA. Had no idea he was actually an unfinished thing in real vanilla.
>>582040506just enable pvp on a rp serverzero difference except you cant gank people who dont want to participate
>>582040552slurped on jew penis
who needs server population when i have my guild helping each other?
>>582040117kek
>unironic asmontards ITT
>>582040552there's nothing exciting in any of his streams beyond the initial awe in seeing so many paypigs march obediently in a line.
>>582040578By that logic why even have regular pvp servers, you can just choose to enable it there too
>>582040418it's offensive how dogshit the hd models are
>>582040471Personal AI Mamako companion to cheer you up when
>>582038221Don't fucking make it weird, and if she does, say no. Done. That easy. And fap before posting. Goddamn.
>>582040578Yeah I just thought of this right before you posted it.Could just have guilds opt-in to the RP-PVP side of the RP realm.Armies and such. It would need more set up and coordination. With RP-PVP there does not need to be as much coordination to have things like a Stormwind Guard RP Guild who actually patrols the roads because there are freelance gankers.
>>582040642no, see, because there already is a pvp server, because there is substantial demand for it, and we speak of rp-pvp only in hypothetical, because there is as of yet demand not substantive enough to actualize it, so the same logic doesn't apply.
>>582040514Luckily it looks like every hunter is gonna want a crocolisk for pvp this time around. So no more having to camp out Broken Tooth.Pray they don't add some new random rare crocolisk with a better attack speed somewhere. We already know they've added a few new rares to tame.
It's kinda fucked up that WoW Forever ate the WoW classic threads, and now there's a bunch of retail people here.
>>582040642because its for people who like to gank?>>582040718thats once sided rp so it does not require a rp-pvp realm, just make that guild on a pvp server and rp with your guildies while you fight horde gankers
>>582040596Was it at least a cute jew tranny?
>>582040418left is undead with an exposed jawbone and nose, and cool expression with stylized hairright is a trailerpark karen wearing some type of metal chinguard, eyeliner, and a dandelion wig.
>>582040264I never tried it, was it any cool? Do people still use them?
>>582040313no for that you need third party sources like petopia which has lists of every potential pet in the game but of course some of it will not be accurate now
>>582040578Your response works for RP-PVP guilds who have scheduled PVP events and coordination beforehand.But it strips away the dynamic aspect of it being a PVP enabled server. Dynamic aspects such as a consequential RP patrols which have a mechanical use case.>>582040812That would be ignoring the Homefront RP scene. Sure, I can do that on a PVP realm, but then I'd also have to make the rest of my faction be RPers.
>>582040902Yes it was extremely cool. Unfortunately Undermine isn't current content anymore which is the only place you can use it.
Why not just have one megaserver and you can switch between PvE, PvP, RP and RP-PvP Layers. Wouldn't this make everyone happy?
>>582040457>nominallyI don't think you're using that word right.
>>582040418Undead female is one of if not THE worst casualty of the HD models, the undead female player population completely disappeared when they got "updated"
home..
>>582041018>leftRetarded and ugly>rightJust uglyHD models won
>>582041065vghhhh fogever......
do I playEnh shamanProt warrioror Sub rogue
>>582041065So this... is the power... of Forever... Incredible...
>>582040552I sometimes fear people like you arent being ironic and actually worship these streamer retards
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>582041083>implying a zombie warrior shouldn't be literally retarded
>>582041018seeing this i think a big issue with HD undead models is that they're far more expressive in a way that doesn't fit them at all
>>582041000this is such a niche sceneboth pvp and rp are unpopular and you wish to combine them, we are lucky if the rp megaserver will have over 5k pop come next year and you wish to split it in two
>>582040418I'll say that the Horde HD Models and the Dwarf HD Model are the good looking ones.While Night Elf Male, Human Male, and Gnome Male look offensive.
>>582041083you got left and right mixed up
>>582041013There is nothing wrong with the current realmless system other than missing an rp-pvp option.
>>582040902It was unironically fun, like the most arcady kind of driving with "push button to drift", but it would actually slip and slide, drive fast, you could put in a different motor and tyres to adjust the driving style.Amazing how they come up with something cool and then never ever touch it again.
can we just admit retail owns f*rever? mythic plus and housing mogs.
>>582041235>irrelevant stuff mogshow?
>>582041192the only horde HD model that looks OK is female troll. that's it
>>582041162IF they do not add RP-PVP , I may have to convert the PVP Megaserver into an RP-PVP realm.The RPers may have to plant their flag.A conquest of sorts.
>>582041018The nose on the right really ruins it for me. Should be like a socket.
>>582041013>everyone layers to rp pve to farm uncontested
Wait do the bluelfs not use the original TBC style low poly models as their SD version? What the fuck?
>>582041235vulpera mogs too
I'm dumb and don't understand this. Over 3 minutes as SL/SL spec ToG deals about 420 damage and heals for the same amount? That's it? Apparently Blood Fury is even worse but this gap is nothing? Also for PvP 20% stun reduction and the curse immunity plus magic damage reduction is way better than WotF. Am I missing something?
>>582041216I'm okay with it because I rarely feel the need to do world PvP. But I don't see why it wouldn't be a good idea. You can play PvP when you want and if you get perma ganked by some obsessive faggot you can just switch to PvE for the time being.
>>582041343Retail Classic
>>582041235>cancer mogs
>>582041340Just make more layers then. It should adjust dynamically to player count anyway to scale better
>>582041287have fun king
>oh my god a priest is joining our part>i wonder if it's a cute femboy!>i wonder if it's a girl playing priestess of elune>EHLLO
>>582041362You are severally mentally handicapped if you think turning on pvp flag on a pve realm is the same as playing on a pvp realm.
>>582041235looking like the mountie collectors on retail are about to mog themselves into the grave
waiting for challenge modes in forever
>>582041413I play a cute gnome but am still a fat hairy man. Don't get your hopes up like this
is warlock forsaken the most evil playable combination?
>>582041235oh don't look so smug now... WoWever will get Housing... heh heh .. just you wait and see.
>>582041435No not the normal PvP flag. It would be an option to load onto a fully PvP layer that works exactly with the same ruleset as the PvP server. Mechanically it would be the exact same
>>582041010>>582041225Oh I thought you could use it elsewhere, like in stormwind or whatever
>>582041123Too bad he couldnt run fast enough that one time
>>582041360The retard only has 200 sp in whatever that garbage test isThe orc racial scales way better the higher SP you have and it has way better synergy
>>582041490tough to decide between warlock and roguesure a rogue could be just a scout but you could say that warlock is slaving demons, the evil baddies, to do good
>>582038726is this peoplse first shaman ride?shaman has been neglected by blizzard since bchow are you retards this retarded
>>582041490Elie Wiesel admitted that Night is a fabrication. He made it up.
>>582041023I think both Fem undeads are cute
>>582038598Brother... it's been a week. There's no reason for knee jerk reactions.
>>582041605yeah auschwitz was awesome probably
>>582039495It's 1000 gold at level 60
>>582041605dunno man just googled "holly lamps" images
>blizz announces a big patch for tomorrow>trolls instantly start to post about how blizzard isint patching the beta, the game is doomed
>>582041605>but it COULD have happened!-jew, probably
>>582038726>WHY ISNT MY CLASS WITH READILY AVAILABLE HEALING ALSO SCALING AS WELL WITH SP!!!!!!!!Pay the hybrid tax and sit the fuck down
>>582041360It just shows that ToG does a bit of damage and not completely worthless. All those other pvp racials orc has completely mog it and I'd argue that adding burst with the damage cd is always better too because it's controllable. Shaving 1-2 seconds off every stun is insane in pvp alone and I'd always pick orc.
>>582041691>forever is so much faster!>the power creep is insane!>meanwhile leveling speed is the same marginally faster>meanwhile power creep is infinitely less than in classici dont get the trolls
>>582041626It's been a week and the game launches in 6 weeks, the beta ends in 4It's sooner than you think
insider hereblizzard is nerfing all blues by 75%
>>582041360Don't fall for these stupid sim posts. Everyone is doing chatgpt slop sims that mean absolutely nothing. Orc is blatantly the strongest pvp choice on Horde.
>>582041696why dont we have pure healers classes?priests should have to pay the hybrid healing tax
>>582041560it's not tough at all. Warlock is the only one that will kill you with agony, corruption and will literally drain your life and soul out of you.All rogue can do is stab you. At least you get to keep your soul.
Izz undead time n dat
>>582041691>blizz announces a big patch for tomorrowsource?
Really don't like these racials. I'm not a meta tranny but my two favorite races dwarf and tauren are just so shit
>>582041560There's a lot of npc dialogue in vanilla about how warlocks are bending demons to their will to do good for the faction, but even then it just read like cope. Especially when you take all the straight up evil shit forsaken was doing like trying to make new plagues and stuff
>>582041742>i dont get the trollsthey don't actually play the game
>>582041605Oy v-..... It was real in his mind okay?!
sod ended up with wrath level dps. is that happening again?
>>582041842dwarf racials are good.
>>582041812https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/beta-client-update-23-september/630815>weekly update
>>582040012To me it's not the biceps touch but her backing off when she saw witnesses approaching that sells this moment. It was meant to have romantic undertone. Afrasiabi was so based.
>>582041809Man the HD models look jarring next to the vanilla assets.
>>582041842The only race with genuinely bad racials are the smurf elves
>>582041842Tauren got it fairly good, thje only problem is that 3 of the 4 tauren classes don't really get maximum use out of plainsrunning due to - travel form, ghost wolf and aspect of the cheetah.1% hit though is tasty
>>582041745I think if they push changes, it's going to be in the release build. Should they test things in the beta? Probably, but I don't expect it.
>>582041920>You can now interact with items that give you quests on gamepad.wooooooooooooow they listen, guys!!!
>>582041887yes
>>582041940Never mind, I just saw the blue post about a weekly update. I hope they actually use the beta to its fullest to test things.
>>582040012>>582041921What is this other faction race mixing bullshit is this common in retail?
I think they could of just relied on the better lighting and kept SD models. It looks ludokino.
i want upright undead and orcsi hate the neck break
>>582041842Yea I don't like that only half the races get damage cd's. It feels pretty bad to get this meme plant bullshit with 1 hour cd instead of something good too. I'm still going tauren because I went full meta with 2019 classic and don't care anymore.
>>582042004The post says their next full weekly update is tomorrow
>>582041691Weekly updates when the game is in beta only for 5? weeks doesn't sound good if we are real.
>Baine Bloodhoof has a sister who is dating a human manHmm...I like this retail lore
DONT GIE A FUCK ABOUT RACIALSAINT PLAYING PVPCHILLING AND RELAXING ON PVE AT MY OWN PACEt. Chaddus McChadden
>hate how feral forms look>new race has decent owlcat forms>... playing feral druid withot nelf racialsit feels outright wrong.
>>582042184>>hate how feral forms lookgo to barberhit randomquit out once the HD form appearsyou can literally switch to them at a barber
>>582042089Never understood why they decided every Orc should be hunched over going from WC3 to WoW.
>>582042145the beta is only 3 weeks, so expect 2 patches
>>582042184Tauren have the better bear formNight Elf have better cat and moonkinSkelf forms look like they belong in league of legends
>>582042219can you use the owlcats though?
>>582042251at least have a toggle
>>582042105you and me both. I'll be a tauren hunter and maybe the 5% + 10%hp talents sounds fun but as you said other races getting shit like 10% crit or damage for 15 sec is just so much better.
I thought layering was supposed to exist so my leveling zone wasn't full of 1000 people? Half the time I get the layer popup it puts me in a layer with more people.
they call this the biggest beta everbigger than classic wow beta in 2019bigger than overwatch beta in 2015bigger than wow beta in 2004we fucking won
>>582041605It all was. The worst thing about the holocoast is that it never happened.
>there's no powercreep btwfun fact, my lvl 19 twink rogue in WOTLK had 1700 hpnow the normal leveling power level is about 10% off that.
Any other freetards having trouble with the macro window? Shit's broken I can't save anything, can't even change name or icon.
>>582041920I guess there's still some hope
They should add a zone here, just copy turtle's shit who cares they already stole your shit anyway
>>582042361>bigger than overwatch beta in 2015Did OW even have an open beta? I remember it being like the same 50 players over and over because the closed beta was so exclusive.
Me, the mage, walking into a dungeon and trading 150 stacks or premium grade A water to the healer.
>>582042390But remember your 19 twink also had max level enchants and probably super good BoEs and also whatever consumes etc.
>>582042317Yeah I'd like it. Fleshy Undead would also be nice.
>>582042361you couldn't buy access to the classic beta in 2019
>>582042254
>i-it's not SoD2.0, it just isn't okay?
>>582042508Ok and
>>582042508you never even needed a tank for low level dungeons
>>582042331Do that and also take mining for 20% total extra hp.
>>582042390>OH MY SCIENCE IF I GET FULL BLUE GEAR AND MAX ENCHANTS I HAVE GOOD STATS JUST LIKE TWINKSdamn that's crazy
>>582042390Retail- chads, it looks like we have won.
>>582042478yes, also i had STV trinket and STV fishing hat, DM enchants etc.that guy probably has stamina buffs but its still retarded as fuck.
>>582042508It always bothered me that hunters had a spec called "survival" and it wasn't a tank spec.
>>582042508>this is bad somehow
>>582042508Tanking in low dungeons is just a luxury, not a necessity
>>582042508i too have finished dungeons without a tank, fucking retard
>>582042508no one tell the shitposter you can tank as any class at low level
>>582042552and it's not classic
>>582042508i've hunter tanked deadmines with an owl pet several times in vanilla classic. low level content doesn't require optimization
>>582042583>max enchants (lvl 20 enchanters btw)shills for this game star to remind me of a certain race of people. always lying intentionally. always dishonest.
>>582042576We don't know if we get the wotlk style profession bonuses, there has been no real confirmation. People saw that engineering gets nitro boost and just assumed all the wotlk stuff was in.
>>582042682yes its Forever
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who WISHES Forver was SoD 2.0What would be the negative of that?>Haha, we went back and REIMAGINED all of the dungeons so they're no longer solved and you can enjoy experiencing a familiar yet fresh dungeon all over again!>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO RUN THE SAME OLD SOLVED DUNGEONS AGAIN WHICH I HAVE PLAYED AND BEAT HUNDREDS OF TIMES ALREADY AND WHAT I BASICALLY RUN THROUGH ON AUTO PILOT WHILST WATCHING SOMETHING ELSE MORE INTERESTING ON MY OTHER MONITOR"The fuck is wrong with you people? SoD was top tier. Forever is literally WORSE OFF by not being SoD 2.0
>>582042693looks like everyone gets engi tools too, engi just doesnt have to recharge themall professions seem to be about money, no one gets unique power
>>582042508My mage tanked RoL by doing 2x more damage than anyone else and I didn't die.
>>582040480I got solicited for erp on my mage gnome earlier
i'll play when they get imorph working
>>582042687>always lying intentionally. always dishonest.you'd know all about that wouldn't you, brownoid
>>582040012>>582042028>>582041921>>582040407>>582040279>>582040068>>582040120>>582040240Blizzard already essentiallly confirmed Jaina is a Dreadlord, that's why she betrayed Arthas and her own fatherThe question is what happened to the real Jaina
Mythic + is the gayest shit imaginable>what if we saw how fast we can avoid the content in every dungeon in the game>and this is the ONLY content relevant with dungeons
>>582042779>no one gets unique powerBS,LW and tailor all have fuckton of BoP blues tho and we are at low levels still.
>>582042390>DUDE THEY ARE LE POWERCREEPING LEVELING>log onto classic>send my alt two swords with fiery weapon enchant>they shitstomp the leveling processyeah bro it was totally impossible to make strong low levels in vanilla.
DM and that STV dungeon from Epoch were kino...
do frogposters have souls?im convinced its jeet AI
>>582042478>vanilla>run one dungeon>maybe one poorly statted item>run 1 questing dungeon in forever>full blues +100 sp +80 healing 30 dps wand
>>582039026>>582039252This is why I'm sticking to Tauri all my favourite classes and specs in Forever are dogshit
>>582042890that will be replaced with dungeon and raid gearnothing that you cant get elsewhere
fishing bros are gonna eat good in forever
>>582041360>>582041542Correct me if I'm wrong but when a warlock gets to 4000 hp the sp will be a lot higher than 200? Meaning even from a damage perspective the gap closes even more?
Buff warlocks
>>582042901Excuse me sir, but do you mean Dead Mines or Dire Maul!?There's no way I could possibly tell what you mean
>>582042982there are level 20s with 117 spell powerlevel 60 theyre going to have 1000
>it doesn't NEED to have classic artstyle>it doesn't NEED to have classic player power level>it doesn't NEED to have classic quest design>it doesn't NEED to not be SoD2.0>it doesn't NEED to have actual realmsYOU ARE HERE>it doesn't NEED to not have gold buying>it doesn't NEED to not have wow token>it doesn't NEED to have SD toggle >it doesn't NEED to not have scenarios/m+/rbgs/arena/pet battles/camp MTX
>>582042105>Yea I don't like that only half the races get damage cd'sTauren "damage" racial is the 1% hit rating. Every race technically gets a racial that can increase their damage.
>>582042576maybe at max level but I'll be leveling max comfy lw + skinning ofc
>crits no longer give more ragekek they really buttfucked warrior.
>>582042859I really like the idea of having a reason to do dungeons at 60 outside of reals/badges. But yeah time trials suck and are the worst part of M+. I really would like to see Blizzard give some kind of value to dungeons in Forever but I doubt that will happen any time soon. We do have more dungeons coming out next year and I think the best thing they could do with them is make them into basically 5 man raids.
>>582042897>twink enchant vs playing normally highest IQ shill
>>582042682Yep youre right this is NOT classic
>>582042981How do you get this
>>582043069It's also easier to generate rage without having a top tier weapon so there's that.
>the doom posters are shazamjeetsLEE MAO
The Mage Council (Xaryu, Venruki, Ziqo) has decided:>Ice Block should be baseline>Improved Counterspell should be baseline>add Frozen Orb>add Time Warp (baseline) >add Slow (baseline)>revert Blizzard and Cone of Cold nerfs>add Dragon's Breath>add Water Elemental>add Living Bomb>add Deep Freeze>add Water Shield>add Dual Wield>add Arcane Shield Block>add Plate Armor proficiency>add Invisibility
>>582043069Should have rolled paladin fuckboy, this is faggrends wow now.
>>582042779Anyone remotely interested in pvp is gonna still go engineering so you don't have to pay some jackass to recharge your boost after every bg.
>>582043042I would take 10% crit/damage, for 10sec, eureka and the human 2% sword crit over 1% hit any day of the week. I'm not interested in minmaxing p1 parses like a tranny but I am interested in blowing up alliance players as fast as possible
>>582043035So sp favors Blood Fury? And hp favors ToG? If thats the case why did the guy that made the sim do a ratio of 200 sp to 4000 hp? That seems completely off? I assume a fresh 60 in blues will have hundreds of sp and like 3000 hp?
sorry frost mages im going arcane and fire dip
>>582043069That's the least of their worries. They could keep it like that to not have to increase the base generation as much - to keep scaling at lower gear better. But the base amount you get is under half of what you need to play your rotation at the moment. You literally can't use your 6sec main ability every 6 seconds.Easy fix - just double the values they have currently and it'll be normal.
>>582038276>SoD P1 I got rich from tanaris pools because literally nobody did it>Now it's common knowledge and there's atleast 20+ guys hopping around thereWho the fuck snitched
>>582043230nobody will listen to mages complain. they'll get ice lane living bomb combusion and arcane blasst and be hpapy
>>582043137Mm yes I bet tons of people who play normally will spend the time getting every WC dungeon drop and get it all enchanted for level 20, lowest IQ doomjeet
>>582043264>If thats the case why did the guy that made the sim do a ratio of 200 sp to 4000 hp?Because he is a fag trying to get TOTG nerfed for no reason.He also made the sim fight 3min when most vanilla bosses go down way faster than that.
>>582043230>mages when they are not completely overpowered for one single beta
>>582043230If mages were as they are but just got Deep Freeze I would possibly play one over my current class.
>>582043230water shield is in the game, it just doesnt give mp5
>>582043203>easier to generate ragei have had the most miserable time leveling a warrior to 20 in forever rage generation is absolutely FUCKED
>>582043276no one really. it's just slowly trickled down knowledge and at some point it will reach the critical mass of knowers and then the flood gates opens.
>>582043230They should also give them Stealth and Sprint and Hammer of Justice and Disarm
>>582043245What's the recharge thing?
>>582043245whatever makes most money
Really enjoying hunter, but commiting to a pure dps class on release is a hard ask... I like flexibility
I want my wotlk Ret paladin backThe rotation was funIn forever/classic its just so boring to wait for auto attack and occasionally cast a judge holy strike for 1 damage each
>>582043394I don't know man, I went sword & board prot and had a good time.
>>582043230>AIEEEE BUFF FROST MOREEThese faggots should be permabanned
guys.. mom agreed to buy me the elves.. i'm going home..
>>582043286>they'll get arcane blasst and be hpapySo true.
>>582043459hunter is based they buffed itautoshots insta shootno melee weavingpets scaleits a gentlemans class now>>582043502are you above the age of 18?
>>582043230>Xaryu, Venruki, ZiqoWho are the 3 best warlock PvP players?
>>582043469LK anniversary is behind the corner
>>582043469>I want my wotlk Ret paladin backYou disgust me, wotlk Paladins were boring as fuck, they took away all of the its utility adn gave is a gay twirl in compesation
>>582043459I was thinking about that tooShouldn't I main a hybrid to get the full experienceBut eventually I went back to the rogue just because its the only character I have ever enjoyed at 60
>>582043516ummmm sex
What did roachlord do now>15h vodsHoly fuck he is back he even said on stream hes gonna play forever daily on release and hang outIts his home he always wanted back>>582043554Gay twirl was nice for aoe faggotALso seals lasting 30 minutes was great i hate 30 second seals so muchFuck seal twisting that shit has got to go
how OP is truefaith vestments going to be
>>582043521y-yes..
>>582043315tons of people will run WC twice for the 2 quests that you cannot physically complete with 5 people in 1 run you larping subhuman shill. >and get it all enchanted for level 20tons of people will have fully enchanted gear because the amount of people who have enchanting on their 1st character you larping subhuman shill
>>582043069>normalized rage>no big spikes of rage from crits/windfury>will want to use 2 slow weapons for fury whirlwind so you have to wait ~2.8 seconds between rage generation>no worldbuffsi can see warrior in raids having to sit on whirlwind/bloodthirst/mortal strike cooldowns for 4+ seconds before you have the rage to press 1 of them. the bosses will be at 50% before you can get even 5 sunders up
>>582043621>y-yes..what the fuck you doing at yo mamas house with 30 cuz
>>582043521>no melee weaving>with in combat trapsholy cope
>>582042859It can work if they remove the gear rewards and it's just for fun / highscore mode for enthusiasts and not a hamsterwheel.
>>582043594>Gay twirl was nice for aoe faggot>ALso seals lasting 30 minutes was great i hate 30 second seals so much>Fuck seal twisting that shit has got to go>I loving having my cock in a cage it makes me feel like a real woman
>>582043230
>>582043435https://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=1266941/saf-t-nitro-boostsnon-engineers can use the SAF-T versions of engi stuff but they have a limited amount of charges. Actual engineers can make versions for themselves that have infinite uses.
HYJAL HAS A VENDOR FOR TIER GEARCURRENCY IS DISENCHANTED TIER ITEMShttps://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wm2iyg/all_crafted_tier_set_bonuses_from_mount_hyjal/
>>582043691that SP isn't final, right?
>>582043594>make an actual good version of the game>ex-players want to play it again
>>582043691This is not good.
>>582043691if you can disenchant your own gear every epic you get from a raid is actually two>first you wear the item>then once you get a better drop you disenchant the old one>use the shard to craft another raid quality epic
>>582043757>that SP isn't final, right?
>>582043594it'll be reasonably entertaining when he's got his usual gang of friends to play with and is actually progressing in the game. streamers doing forced events in beta is cringe as hell.
>still cant send mail to altsthis game is gay
>>582043478that's because prot is the only spec they gave non-attack based rage generation to. i was already planning on playing deep prot anyways but it's still a mess how fucked arms and fury will be
>>582043521>no melee weavingdon't know where you got that ideaif anything there will be even heavier melee weaving with survival
>>582043779Good
>>582043691We've known this since day 1 of the beta. They don't have any stats yet though.
>>582043625>t. hasn't played any version of classic nor vanilla in the pastshould have just said so from the beginning instead of pretending this whole time so I could have ignored your bullshit immediately
>>582043818he is a retail player so he thinks because there is a deadzone that there wont be melee weaving
>>582043818>survivalnobody plays that>pvplmao l fucking m a o
>>582043230is this AI? is AI replicating lines now?
>>582043881>retaili hate retail with a passion retard
>>582042859CoA had classic m+ and it was kino and great way to make progression not locked behind raids only. Horizontal progression blizzard was blabbing about.
I want Draenei female in the game.
>>582043847>t. hasn't played any version of classic nor vanilla in the pastironic.5 people cannot complete the deviate hide or the ratchet quest in 1 run you absolute subhuman larping shill piece of shit.
>>582043818>classic wow>pvphahahahapvp in wow classic was nothing more than an after thought, forever adding a new bg feels like they were forced to so it seems it has more content than it does. Proof lies in the pudding where all honor rank gear is basically free now and sucks
>>582043884I would be surprised if weaving Survival wasn't the best dps spechaving two melee weapon damage+ skills on short CDs is just too good
blue skelf or high elf wannabe skelf?
>classic art style be like
>>582044013>um acthually if I create a situation where things cant happen they wont happenwoah crazy, consider killing yourself instead of posting next time
How can we be expected to play a warrior without Giant's Grip? uno zweihander isn't enough
I forget the name of the weapon but wasn't there a two hander in vanilla that had shit stats but an insane debuff effect? Like some raids would take a enh shaman whose only job was to apply that debuff?
>"Hey whats the most fun thing Mages can do in Classic?>"Probably aoe?">"Yea... lets kill that!"no money for you mr Blizzmerchant
>>582044071Pick kill yourself.
>>582044040>muh gearpvetranny sister...
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wn7k4n/we_need_bad_loot_in_forever_also/we need MORE bad loot
>>582044098> where things cant happenhow fucking stupid are you, shill? 5 people cannot complete the deviate hide or the ratchet quest in 1 run you absolute subhuman larping shill piece of shit.
>>582044040why are you bringing up pvp
>>582043691so with the combat talent, evis is 20 energy?
>>582044108REEEEE I CAN'T PULL 20 MOBS AT ONCE ANYMORE ONLY 4 IS LITERALLY RAPE
>>582043818>>582044051https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wnpb5m/just_finished_tanking_hot_as_survival_hunter/Survival hunters can tank now btw
>>582044104Nightfall applies increased spell damage taken debuff
>>582044108>arcane blast>hot streak>ice lancenah they got some cool shit and anyone mad about the aoe nerf is a nolife gold farmer
>>582044171did your bot break? its just repeating the same retarded message anon, get that checked
So did Ret Paladins only get one single target attack and some meme seal twisting cap talent? Sounds kinda lame.
>>582044202no
I am a fully grown man with total agency over my life and I am completely paralyzed with class selection in a 20 year game that will, ironically, rob me of all the agency I have in my life.I think I’ve got it down to rogue or warlock, but shaman might still be in the cards. Mage is a distant 4th option. I just keep thinking to myself: if only blizz would finally give warlocks stealth, portals, food, and ghost wolf…I wouldn’t be in this position.Will be doing a healthy mix of PvE and pvp, but I am mostly interested in pvp desu. I’d like to be competitive but I’m not sweaty
>>582044098NTA but there was loads of dungeon quests in vanilla that were impossibly or highly unlikely to complete in 1 run.I remember doing like 3/4 arena/anger/golem brd runs for the core of elements quest to complete for example.
>>582044231the amount of mobs that drop the hide or the amount of spawns for the flower is limited you subhuman shill piece of shit. 5 people cannot complete the quest in 1 run.you would know this if you played the game, instead of being a larping shill who's panicking and trying to desperately misdirect the conversation.
>>582044181maybe I go leatherworking instead alchemy
>>582044202anyone can tank at low levels
>>582044242Yes survival hunters tank now
>>582044208Yeah that.So with the debuff limit removed I'm 100% calling it now that there is gonna be a new weapon with a crazy debuff that everyone wants for raid so somebody will be forced to be the debuff bitch.
Half the men and women in my family have played wow in the past and some have said they're coming back for classic.
>>582044108Fun for absolutely no one except the handful of degenerates who wants to AoE farm or boost in dungeons, AKA the actual merchants
if i want to have fun tanking should i just play warrior or are prot pally and bear not going to be slow and boring
>>582044248now this is a prime example of what I like to call a dpsniggeryou contribute nothing at all. are you the same irl?
>>582044341ive got friends who quit wow after wotlk coming back their all 30+
>>582044329it will be on a Wand
>>582040012>the most aggra has done since cata was host an orc barmitzvah
>>582044248sounds like its between mage and warlockpretty common here honestly, you are like the fourth not being able to pick between them
>>582044282>>582044231>shill vanishedkek, he realized he fucked up.
ameritards woke up
how do i fix the faggy human male run animation?
>>582044248I'm leaning towards mage myself, this scroll thing is really neat and gets muh immersion going
>>582044282>>582044478no samefag I just dont care to entertain your doomjeet faggot arguments because they have no basis in anything anyone cares for, you're just creating fake scenarios in your head and spamming them on repeat, it's boring and embarrassing to watch
He's right you know
How many times are you retards going to keep playing re-releases of this game? It's like paying for multiple copies of skyrim
>>582044314>lowest level dungeon>"""tank""" highest on dps>rest of dps barely out dps the fucking healerlollmao
>>582044487It's really nice and comfy on Forever in early EU hours, general chat isn't twitch chat mumbojumbo gibberish with politics on top
the only major leveling change is more quests and dungeons xp is frontloaded into quests instead of mobs (boosting is 100% dead)otherwise its about the same as vanilla. around 20 you start to feel the slow down
