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Fuck off edition

>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW
>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more
>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman
>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release
<DogFart> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be EU on release
<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on release

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>>582063401
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NO SHOES

RISE UP
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>>582074221
>Fuck off edition
its funny that even after this was posted, Retoilets are still openly admitting they play it like they're welcome in our thread.

REMINDER

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME

YOU ARE NOT THE AUDIENCE

YOU SHOULD GO THE FUCK BACK
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>>582074221

Back
Go to classicwow
r/classicwow

6h ago
Fusilli_Matt
The WoW: Forever announcement was a disservice to the classic community and it absolutely destroyed Classic as a whole

The announcement for forever was warranted but the release date is way too sudden. The blizzcon weekend was supposed to be exciting, but instead the sudden release date of Forever actively killed TBC, only 3 weeks into one of the most exciting patches of the entire franchise. It took less than 2 weeks for guilds to disband because, "what's the point?" This all feels really bad..and this era is by the darkest that I've ever seen the game become

Edit: I just want to say that this has been a huge boost to my reddit score and your saltiness has been a huge help. Thank you all <3
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if you played wow before mop you really shouldnt be here
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please stop posting tranny gore memes and other gross images
you are going to make me cry and shit my pants
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When you team up for a quest what do you say afterwards?
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>>582074490
thx bye =)
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How’s bear druid looking, beta friends
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>"m+ is dead"
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>>582074490
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>>582074490
i just say bye and wait about 15 seconds for him to respond and leave after he doesnt
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>>582074301
They already had a mechanic designed to remove the hunter's pet in Classic, it was called AOE damage, or area off effect damage.
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>>582074481
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>>582074221
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>>582074472
Game really started getting lit in Legion. We can see how they got their roots from cataclysms genius
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>>582074221
This means very little when creature models are being ported from retail and gear artists are similarly following the retail design language just with lower texture resolution.
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>>582074490
Anything but gg, super crine.
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>mage is the alliance skyborne exclusive class
>easily the worst alliance mage option except against elementals
I don't get it
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HAMMER SQUAD OUR RESPONSE?
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>>582074490
This the gay frog?
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>>582074746
I did just say gg a moment ago...
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>>582074490
Ty, cya
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>>582074557
>its a massive drop but its normal that our gamemode is dying
damn sure showed people there
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I aint reading all that shit OP use some fucking art next time
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>the massive meganigga ultra conglomerate blizzard entertainment certainly wont change forever to be more appealing and accessible to a wider audience no sir they will keep it like classic!
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>>582074490
cheesed to meet you
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>>582074490
“…”
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>>582074903
The cope is insane. It's like that dev tweet was fucking holy water for retoilets.

You lost.
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Thoughts on Baal saying the Horde represents real life tribal culture in WoW?
I like the Horde but is Alliance actually the based faction?
Someone tell me how I should feel.
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>>582074903
YES YES. FOREVERHYPE FOREVERHYPE
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>>582074221
>Guy can't even design new zones
>New zones just look like retail minus
You lost
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>>582074767
*burp*
Can't believe I had this dude's stream up for days trying to get a Wildstar beta key
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to the anon triggered by dogfart's name
i genuinely did not know there is a porn site named that, i just thought of the stupidest name possible and made it
it's not my fault someone really named a porn site dogfart
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>>582074860
Path of Exile, a massively popular ARPG, more than Diablo loses like 80% of its active players after 2 weeks of a new season thats just how seasonal content goes lil gup
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r8 h8 masturb8
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Has anything interested happened in wow today?
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was this the biggest aura loss for retail andys?
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>>582074903
Classic was designed to be more appealing and accessible to a wider audience, it's a game for casuals that couldn't cut it in Everquest or Final Fantasy 11.
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I want flying because I love seeing the grand landscapes from above and will miss terribly the feeling of zooming around above the world, which I sometimes do for hours at a time without any sort of goal or purpose.

Dragonflying is awesome and I want it(nerfed a bit so like 3 energy and minimal regen as it was at dflight launch) in forever wow, but i understand that it absolutely should not be the default mode of travel in Forever.

Which is why I think if should be locked behind some kind of absurd meta achievement like "All 9 classes max + loremaster = Flight Master of the World of Warcraft" and be a thing to strive for. And probably also have a significant cooldown, like every 15 minutes you can fly for as long as you can stay airborne with your 3 charges and glide regen. So like now and then you can use your flyer to cover a bunch of ground quickly. But you'll wanna run to somewhere high first to get max distance and you will still spend most of your travel time on a ground mount.

I simply find gliding around in the sky super soulful and dont want to see it completely removed.
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>>582074980
What is that even supposed to mean?
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I'm refunding, this is not classic, they just cloned r*tail's engine and slapped a classic theme on it. After the streamer hype dies it's going to be over.
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>>582074980
Im stealing your cute goblin pic
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>>582074860
there are a lot of good criticisms to be made of maze+ but this line of reasoning is really stupid
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>>582074819
Yikes...
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>>582075108
Talk to a flight master
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Apologize.
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>REEE IT'S NOT CLASSIC IT'S RETAIL- BLIZZARD BETRAYED US!
>LOLOLOL FUCK YOU RETAILFAGS IT'S OUR GAME
Why don't you go and enjoy discussing your favorite version of the game in /wowcg/ or the turtle general.... oh wait
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>>582074490
People talk in this game?
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>retoilet
why dem bitches be talking bout literal shit? thats nasty
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>>582075064
resto got better places to put your spare points
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It's not Classic
It's not Retail

It's Forever
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>>582075228
+100 izzat
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>>582074221
>We're making it for the Classic gamer!
>Adds retail UI
>Adds Skyborne
N I G G A R D L Y
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>>582075108
What about allowing flying, but only letting you land at designated flight path locations?
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>>582075157
>>582075063
True sisters as soon as Marathon gets their new season we'll be so back, player numbers dont matter in seasonal content!
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aight, i'm ready to blast, just 42 days...
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>>582075046
><DogFart> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be EU on release
EU trannies are you ok? why are you advertising your disgusting fetish for niggers?
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do i roll undead warlock or tauren druid?
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>>582075246
i mean this general is literally full of self-admitted retail players that dont even admit retail is an unholy abomination

if that doesnt prove the point, literally nothing does. You have no defense for this fact.
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>>582075338
GO PLAY RETAIL THEN YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>582074903
>>582074975
I want the game to be more accessible though, which is why I want easy raids and no pvp rating system. The least accessible game is retail because the gameplay is absurdly complicated and overdesigned and the story is retarded and impossible to follow.
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>>582075354
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>>582075323
Heh.
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>>582074221
Is that real
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fellow former warriorchads, we are now sissy cucks and we must bow to the pink GODS
our only purpose is to struggle to build enough rage for 5 sunders so that the big dick paladin bulls can do maximum dps.
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>people ask for modern classic
>give them modern classic
>endless seethe by classic boomers who are stuck in 2004
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>>582075373
ud warlock
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I don’t mind the retoilets playing our game they just need to understand they’ve forfeited their ability to have an opinion on it by gobbling Ion’s balls for 10 years. Play it, enjoy it, but no, you don’t know what’s in your own best interest. So your criticisms will not be allowed.
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>>582075354
Leveling guide? My guy you just do quests
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>>582075386
Why would I play retail when I just bitched about retail features?
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>>582074642
the vast majority of content you could keep your pet alive on
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When patch notes.
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>>582075493
but i need my arrow...
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So did Forever fix the levelling of Classic? I tried it back in 2019 and quit at level 20 because there weren't enough quests
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>>582075354
lmfao
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>>582075568
yeah
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>>582075475
only retail players would ask for modern classic
classic players asked for more classic
>>582075568
yeah 33% more quests and 9 new dungeons while leveling
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>>582075547
Don't worry Blizzard already did the hard work for you by putting the gay blue circles over where your queet will take place just like in retail
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I just decided to ignore youtube, streamers and xitter and build/meta guides and have a great time.
Ignorance truly is bliss.
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Forever is the RetailGOD's world, you're just living in it.
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>>582075514
Because it was solo levelling content. At end game, your pet was dead more often than not, because AOE damage makes the game more challenging for healers and therefore more fun.
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>>582074490
I thank them and then say Seeyou or Have fun
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>>582075354
Now get the gear-up and gold guides
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>>582075695
the developers and players all hate you and just told you the game isnt for you btw
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>>582075134
how are you gonna cope when unlike classic it thrives after release?
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>>582075568
now people are complaining about the opposite
and also Dungeon Quests are even more important XP wise
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>>582075718
I played a hunter in classic
"more often than not" is a complete lie
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who farted
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RETAILGODS own classissies, you WILL come back to RETAIL after your shitty game dies. The average classissy would have a stroke if xe would see something like mythic dimensius or lura.
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>>582075134
>this is not classic
Yes, that is literally the point
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>>582074903
I think the main problem for me was that expansion content wasn’t strictly balanced to be a linear leveling path. And that the speedrunning routes weren’t really that fleshed out by the community. Like I can definitely see value to retail but it felt to have destroyed the leveling experience which classic had developed. Leveling is warcraft that’s like the entire game. Max level content is just like leveling again except you’re leveling up your items. It’s also totally group based which isn’t really warcraft. Another thing is they added too many cutscenes. And also often ruined the very serious setting and feeling of the game with mandatory quests, so if they ever even think about making mandatory quests again I just want them to remember the MSQ from xiv. Mandatory quests are never a good idea. Unless it’s max level content like but to force me to do this long as fuck quest shit just to play the real game has never once worked. I get like ptsd flashbacks to dk and dh starting zones, where it’s like hours of unskippable content and npc dialog without any deviation to the path you have to complete the entire quest chain. Its just really bad and doesn’t work in my opinion.. yeah another thing is with difficulty being reduced due to highly mobile classes and also very strong defensive cooldowns. Like you’ll end up pulling EVERYTHING, and then aoe spell. And there’s just never any challenge only limited by spawn rates it’s just boring as fuck. The leveling on retail is probably so shit, dungeons also are so shit because you of level scaling meaning you just don’t compete and nobody really cares about the outcome. Classic dungeons are way more hardcore feeling..
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Is Warrior not just going to be a miserable experience on PvP servers?
>everyone is getting more OP
>warriors are still dollar store kites
They were already bad in wpvp before it’s only going to be worse now.
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>>582075731
i'm a good goy, but not that good, they refused to link my 2nd bnet account and so i will pirate the rest, i still like to pay sometimes, it gives me a nice dopamine blast to my consumerism addicted part of brain
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>>582075830
underwater starting zone goes craaazy bro. foreverhype foreverhype
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For all its retail faults Forever is at least better than SoDomy. No gay runes or million button rotations
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>"Greetings mon."
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>>582075848
People are not coming back to retail, they're going back on hiatus.
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>>582075672
Kringeliger Name Brudi
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>>582075906
Yes.
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>>582075743
dungeon quest xp is insane, i bet you can just chain dungeons from level 14-40
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>>582075734
A single developer and a skeletal irrelevant whiney minority of players that Blizzard literally just back of the bussed.

If classic is so great, Why then is the NAME classic SO TOXIC THAT BLIZZARD EJECTED IT.
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am i even gonna like mage? it looks to complicated and like the only people able to play it have been practicing for years
like how am i gonna judge the distance of arcane explosion or cone of cold if theres no indicator, i'm probably gonna be sitting in melee range getting whacked while others could be safe and still doing damage, and dont even get me started on the mana management, im def OOMing myself before the mobs are lower than 33% then i have to just run or die
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>>582075568
I'm level 14 leaving tirisfal as an undead pally. I got to 14 doing dun morogh and elwynn as a gnome priest
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>>582075568
There's always been enough quests, you're just too lazy to find them, go back to retail and buy a boost to rotate on, retoilet nigger
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>>582075672
witziger name digga
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argh uhg argh guys tribalism between the versions! tribalism! forever dead! ahhhh we have to kil the hype sisters how do we do it aiyeeeeeeeeee! blue elves! be mad! they're blue!
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>>582075992
the retoilet melties and cope are so funny man hahahaha please keep going
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>>582075504
Any negativity in the dojo is retail behavior you benchod
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>>582075906
yes, but at least rogues are in an equally unfortunate position so it's not as lonely down here
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It is quite literally impossible to come up with a female night elf name that doesn't sound like a stripper.

I give up, I'm just gonna use some bullshit name.
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>>582075960
This is real wow, not you killing 90 boars or whatever claude slopped.
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>>582076015
no one is forcing you to aoe level
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>/wowcg/ (a dead general) chimps have been throwing a colossal fit for almost a full week
No wonder Blizzard abandoned you
Forever won
Classic lost
Turtle lost
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>>582075949
zug
*punches you in the titty as hard as I can without breaking stride and keeps walking*
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>>582076080
Straciatella Nutball
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we're back
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>>582075906
yes, a warrior has you hit you like 8 times with auto attacks before they can even have the rage to press hamstring now
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>>582076080
the only RP names i can make without feeling like a faggot are undead and orc names.
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>>582074383
your money is welcome in blizz’s wallet, and you better pay up more piggy, wow 2 aint gonna develop itself…
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>>582076159
get streamers off my faction
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if this flops I'm not coming back to Retail. Absolutely not
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>>582075640
Thats not nearly good enough. If you do the quests in the wrong order you’ll literally waste 5-10 minutes every time and in a 5 hour gaming session that’s literally like an hour and a half or longer. Questie already does that and it’s like nothing basically. The arrow is way more impactful. I make my own arrow guide (I play ssf where we can’t trade with other players) and the arrow is the supreme way to replay content you’ve beaten before. And you adjust your arrow every time and like the 20th playthrough the arrow is fucking incredible and your xp rates are breaking records.
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Am the only one who prefers classic for almost everything except the character models? Classic models are charming in nostalgia, but I really do prefer the HD models, and I hate damn near everything else about retail.

I tried the HD mod for turtle but it was a hot buggy mess, and I fear that we're going to be stuck with gummy teeth characters forever because of the bitching.
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>>582076250
Where will you go?
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>>582076015
>it looks complicated
>spamming 1 button is complicated

Forever chuds really are bad at video games aren't they
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>>582076138
They didn’t abandon classic, they’re doing exactly what people asked for: legacy progressive servers that run through the expansions and reset every so often.
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>>582076015
unironically its muscle memory, you do it enough times and you'll know the ranges by heart. it sucks at first and its really aggravating but once you get it down it becomes second nature. luv me AoE mage grindan
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>>582076241
like it or not nonny we need a couple or it's going to be bad. at least soda plays the game.
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>>582076151
Names that end in -ella sound like stripper names to me. I don't think I have ever heard of someone with a real name like that, just stripper names like stella or bella.
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>>582076125
This boss is unironically one of the best fights they've ever made. It's a masterpiece through and through. Shit on retail all you want, but rare gems like Lura, Dimensius and Painsmith exist, but only on mythic so 99% of the playerbase wont ever do them.
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>>582076250
thats okay, the retard’s nostalgia fomo money will though :)
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>>582076054
*unsheathes infinite Forever tsukuyomi*
You never stood a chance.
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i have two characters at 20 and another at 15. i don't think i've seen a single rogue my entire time playing.
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>>582076250
save your time and just quit both now then, we do not need you here to begin with
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What the fuck is “HAMMERS UP” and why do gay people say it?
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gnome mage named Zug Zug
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>>582076338
Natalie Windwaker
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>>582075949
How do you bag a troll baddie like this as a human
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>>582076298
OG of course
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>>582076384
they're stealthed of course you cant find them
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>>582076298
Maybe I'll try that Where Winds Meet game
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>>582076298
the new warhammer games
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>>582076384
they were stealthed
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>>582076384
>retard doesn't know what stealth is
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>>582076384
you can't see rogues because they're invincible
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>>582076384
I will now roll on your pvp server aggrend
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>>582076384
Rogue is a fundamentally badly designed class. Your success depends entirely on the opener, if you get caught in stealth it's auto lose, if you bungle the opener it's auto lose, if they use a cd to defeat the opener it's auto lose, but if you land the opener it's auto win.

The stealth class should not have been melee, because melee stealth requires they have things like stunlocks and big crits to function.
Stealth should have been a function of survival hunters, and rogues basically shouldn't exist at all.
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HOLY SHIT
Reminder that classicfags are retards and will believe any stupid shit from fake profiles on twitter
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/auto-shoot-bug-and-fix-incoming/2359185
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>>582074221
what is mental illness
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Classicfag larpers lost.
WoW Won
Forever Won

13894198221352 classic andies roped
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>>582076650
BASED
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troll orc female hunter?
how do i make them cute
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>>582076250
the only thin i would take from retail are all the mounts and pets, also flying but only at walking speed.
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>>582076640
Anon... I probably shouldn't say this but your pic genuinely got me for a sec kek
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>>582076635
Classic rogue is like basically the same as warrior. They didn’t add huge stealth buttons until later when rogue really got dramatically changed. Rogue does higher dps than everyone else, which is its main thing.
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>>582076581
you are unfit for OLYMPUS, goodbye

hehehe thats what imma say every time somebody gets bored and drops forever, imma say “You are UNFIT for the HALLS of OLYMPUS, goodbye” xD
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>>582076298
Back to shooting games
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>>582076650
it's over ...
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What race/class would leon kennedy and Chris redfield play
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It's over. I lost my d-card...
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what do i do with my last talent pt bros
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>>582076650
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? FUCK YOU CLASSIC FUCKS OH MY GOD
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>>582076640
Holy shit! Big if true!
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>>582075063
While you are right about retail, Diablo is much more popular than PoE, mainly because of normies.
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>>582076635
agreed every class should do the same thing all the time. bring the player not the class
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Fellow Nillers... it's over!
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>>582076650
KWABYPOW
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>>582076927
i DUNNO! it all looks like retail DOGSHIT! i'd just uninstall and go fire up a good private server buddy. those retoilet designs are a yikesy!
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>>582076650
Unironically made hunter enjoyable
They just had to do it didn't they
Guess hunter is now out of the question
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>>582076159
>soda rerolling become he can't stand olympus
L M A O
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>>582076927
One point in improved health funnel.
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>>582076974
Era and Hardcore servers are still up, it’s not over at all.
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>>582076885
Leon would be a rogue with some smartass name, Chris would be a main tank warrior
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>>582077126
yea but the servers are old. We need fresh!
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Which Private Server did blizzard steal the most content from?
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>>582076650
this is making me not pick hunter now

it felt good you still had to wait a bit before the auto shot fired anways

i hate classics 1.5s delay ONTOP of attack speed
ugh
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>>582076384
you must be playing with some pretty good rogues
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>>582075354
>ok so you're gonna pick up a quest
>then go into the dungeon and do the quest
>ok that'll be 45 dollars plus tip
the goyim have gone insane
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>>582076823
>>582076959
stealth in wow is like sniper in tf2, a cool idea that unfortunately has massive negative repercussions on the rest of the game. rogues need stunlocks and big openers to be useful at all because they are too squishy and have no range outside of the opener, if the stealth class was ranged instead like a hunter you would not have to make their damage hugely spiky because you have range and escape options other than exploding the opponent before your stunlock ends.
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>>582077038
hey anon, ive got a secret…
forever is made by the same company as retail
that do anything for your little willy?
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>>582077315
agreed rogue in classic feels squishy, energy starved and hyper dependant on the situation
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>buying the slow leveling guide
lol?
lol

if you want to get stuck at a chokepoint early and caught in the pack, use rested xp
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olympus sissies.. what will be our answer to this?
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/guildmute-forever
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Can't find a single copper vein to mine

Genuinely feel like picking up mining/herb for Forever launch could be a big mistake for an average joe
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>>582077243
doesnt make sense since pservers are stealing content themselves
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>>582076650
Wanding is now DEAD in the water for every caster class leveling lol
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>>582077243
>steal
Can't steal things that you own just because someone repurposes some assets in serbia
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>>582075354
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>>582077043
My motivation died when the name Steve Irwin was already taken.
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>>582077243
>"stealing" from people illegally hosting private servers for your own game
No such thing + they absolutely deserved it
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>>582075064
just terrible anon
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>>582076650
This was the main reason i was thinking of playing Lone Wolf MM hunter.
With the gigantic deadzone and without this QoL, i think i’ll play another class
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>>582077497
get a grip, wanding was perfectly fine and good even with proper gcd, SP is still going to wand level and be fine
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>>582076937
m8 thats how it was. you just learn your shot cadence and stop when its time. Wait till you learn about the deadzone brotherman.
Part of the reason BM was so popular in old wow was that so much of your dps came out of you pet just gluing itself to something and autoing it. Unlike marks/surv where you could REALLY fuck your dps by mistiming auto shots while moving.

I played primarily surv/bm in vanilla tbc wrath because I liked the additional mobility offered by by the pet and dot specs
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>>582074221
>for people who were not satisfied with changes to art style
Oh yeah sure, they're totally not repeating that one
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Just kicked my first warrior today, told him we found a ret paladin to replace his mediocre dps.:)
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>>582076650
>Fix : your levelling now fucking sucks
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>join dogfart
>everyone has fart themed names
EU humor everyone
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looked it up, apparently the skelfs CAN leave their starting zone at level 1 but it's a big bother
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>>582077357
>*MASSIVE LITTLE CRYBABY BITCH FAGGOT TEARS!!!!!!*
no not really
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>>582077629
>you just learn your shot cadence and stop when its time
You literally do the same now too? It felt like a qol update but blizzard just isn't about fun now is it
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>>582077210
Classic fresh was leaked, it's coming after Wrath Anni.
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>>582077497
does no affect me i just stand still like a retard
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>>582077648
>things that didn't happen
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>>582077546
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Soda is complaining about Druids again...
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>>582077686
better than us "humor"
>haha jews
>ayo da jews huh?
>n-word spam
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>Transmog gun to bow
>Stops consuming ammo
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>>582077505
>>582077536
why are there blizz trannies here defending the tranny company shutting down the tranny private servers, i thought all you faggots stuck together
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>>582077243
Most custom private server features were just lifted from other MMOs.
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I just can't get over the fact that they added blue elves instead of high elves. they're yapping about respecting vanilla and the first thing they do is to pull an entire, unoriginal variation of an existing race out of their asses

They could just have copied turtle wow and add goblins for the horde and high elves for ally. Or forsaken elves for the horde and high elves for the alliance. Or even blood/high elves for both. But no, they had to add some leftover shit from retail that no one asked for
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>>582077802
you forgot
>BBC BBC BBC
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>>582077802
Look at this jew nigger cry over words
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>>582074490
>"Thanks for the help, have a good one".
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>>582077692
Doesn’t seem too hard actually. I’m leveling on Zephras Isle and I’m lvl 11, all a lvl 1 would have to do is swim across to Valanaar and then get on the skyship.
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okay that's bullshit

I'm not pulling that...
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>>582077802
have euroniggers contributed anything to the world in 100 years?
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>>582077906
That's canadian humor though.
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>>582077858
Blizz Hetero Devchads*

Also you are more tranny than classic and private players.

Forever Turbo Chads stand above.
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>>582077945
oh really? guess I'll make a skelf then
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The verdict is out
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>hit level 12
>get quests for rfc
>do rfc
>level 15
>get quests for rol
>do rol
>level 18
>get quests for wc
>do wc
>level 20
not bad desu
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>>582077867
actually most of them were lifted from various forms of retail wow.

ascension quite literally was an amalgamation of various modern expansion features, and private server troons loved it and hailed dutch as a genius game developer far beyond blizzard. Those same people are in this thread right now spamming retail-.
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>>582077971
niggaz see this screenshot and have the audacity to tell me this ain't retail minus
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>>582074490
I say “Thank you for the aid, and Good luck on your travels.”
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Can other races go to the smurf elf starting zone and do their quests?
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Speaking of 'lock, can they still decently tank dungeons like in SoD? What's a good spec for it?
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asmongold wonned
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>>582078068
Turtle WoW had survival skills (runescape) and gardening (FFXI).
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>>582076650
thank fucking god, buh bye class tourists
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>>582077772
That guys lucifer. He actually just named himself after popping a cherry. He has exclusive access to girls and we’re all being held at gunpoint.
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>>582078043
>asking AI that was created later than classic questions
Shut up you're not a real classic player.
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>>582078174
gardening did literally nothing on turtle and survival was literally just tents that gave a massive effective xp boost, far higher than anything forever is providing.
These same people are in this thread right now screeching about leveling being too fast.
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>>582078126
run in and hellfire
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>>582078134
Based I'm watching him make a star on three layers right now kek
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>>582078057
>3 levels from rfc
Doubt. Post a screenshot of your level 20 beta character
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>>582078034
jews created trannies and trannies are some of the jews best golems
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>>582078318
>>582078335
>>582078394
>>582078316
>>582078263

im brown

wht class do i play
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so how do we address the retail creep?
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>>582078034
She is so sexo bros
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>>582078043
What did Deepseek say?
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>>582078263
>gets dogpiled 50 to 1

you do not beat attention whore and orbiters by engaging with them, you beat them by ignoring them.

Play RP.
PvP servers in forever are going to be streamzoomer blob zerg infested giga aids.
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>>582078316
Gardening did nothing on FFXI from what I can tell, it was just a side-thing you could do to get some crafting materials.
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>>582078126
They can't.
Sorry sissy!
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How will fishlets ever recover?
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>>582078451
>look mom, i posted it again
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I'm rolling PvE to escape the Asmon guilds
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>>582074221
>retail allow you to play alone
But the only way to gear is to have friends or a dedicated group to push mythic plus
This guy is full of shit!
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>>582078435
woyer dood
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>>582078618
His influence is everywhere bro
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>>582078596
fucking crazy item
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>>582078596
>you have to fish 500 hours for a 0.000001% chance at your bis game epic ring
they better not do this shit
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I CANNOT decide on what class to play. I've played since 2005, started out as the stereotypical huntard. Then SP and prot pally in TBC, and mained prot through Cata where I switched to guardian/feral druid all the way to SL when I went back to paladin. I like tanking and healing but I also play solo a lot, so I'd like a dps spec too, but Forever is just having dual spec right? Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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>>582075672
basiert
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>>582078701
Why not? Everquest had worse grinds than this.
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Forevertroons...
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>>582078485
whether or not I die is irrelevant. killing them and inconvenience is all that matters.
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>>582074221
this person is AI
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>>582074221
KEK retailers fucking LOST
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>>582078485
>Please saar play my pedo ERP groom fe-
No!
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why is alliance like this?
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do you guys think stonewall jackson as a name would get you banned?
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>>582078704
>dual spec
LMAO
thats not till wrath
Forever will have single spec with escalating gold cost trainer respec
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I INITIATED A GROUP INVITE BROS I AM SO PROUD OF MYSELF
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>>582078764
hordesissies wtf is this
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>>582076650
perhaps there is hope for classic+ after all
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>>582074490
i have a mouseover invite spam party macro and a macro that says "/p ty" and emotes /ty and leaving the party with 1 click
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>>582078618
he's rolling on PvE on launch anon you can't escape him.
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>>582078912
Dual spec is already in, go back to shitpost on /b/ and discord
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>>582078764
>questmarker
go back to retail
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>>582078930
That's actually an Alliance roleplayer, he was a male human paladin who died and became female.
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>>582078760
a long grind where you can make meaningful progress is one thing
a long grind that is all up to luck is another

all you have to do is add a bop fishing currency that you can rarely fish up, and make this bad boy worth like 200 of them
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>>582078895
*taps sign*
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>>582075318
How's this
>>582077546
Why tho

Never played shammy so excuse my retardation
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>>582078895
flagged for name change at worst
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>lone wolf trannies seething that they can't have braindead leveling
kekking hard
you're playing a hunter, get the fucking pet out, bitch
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>"Every change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game and sooner or later that debt will be paid."
how will this debt be paid?
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>>582078769
perhaps but your are spending your time on people who simply do not deserve it.

You are trading your time for the time of some random retarded brownoid, and a lot of them time its gonne be 5-50 of them, you will lose and then they will camp you while jerking themselves off.

You cannot win by trading time with worthless people whose time is also worthless. You win by retaining your time for you own purposes and denying them access to you.

>>582078853
you can play RP and not engage with RP at all.
I barely do. The real gain of RP realms is the atmosphere, and that very stigma that you are suggesting keeping normalfag retards, like you, out.
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>>582079041
>hes rolling pve
KEK, hes still buckbroken
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>>582079184
That sounds boring as hell. Never become a game dev
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>>582079184
Everquest had many long grinds that were completely luck-based.
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>*retarded faggotiny cuckafanity talent build*
How is le this le chaaat?
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>>582079053
proofs?
thats actually good news imo. I like dualspec and I plan to play a shaman as enh/resto

I just figured theyd stick with how it were in vanilla, I dont have beta but I assume that since DS didnt happen till wotlk it would be a thing.
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>>582079293
>copying his game
badassery
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>>582078618
Finally as an OCE wow player, I have won.
I will never have to see a single olympus sycophant
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>>582079184
Nah thats soulless and gay.
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>>582079295
Yes, the ambience of pedophiliac trannies.
Lol just rope nigger.
I keep it fash, i keep it fresh I only interact with the top 0.1% of the playerbase.
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so does shadowmeld work like vanish now or not?
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Made da elf
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>>582077765
>>582079236
here chuddy
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Why don't they make an actual GDKP system in the game like as a formal loot menu?
The game itself handles the gold flow, automatically puts it in the pot and fairly distributes it and prevents host cuts and other negative aspects? Also it flags every participant to have their mailbox for the last week reviewed.
It seems too useful as a system to simply ban.
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Any one else getting Secondary Lighting on Fair causing extremely dark jank shadows? I dont wanna play on max settings!!
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>>582079293
It's a feature from Wrath, so it's not a debt to the authenticity of the game because Wrath is part of the Classic Trilogy.
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>>582079440
They had dual spec on the anni servers ffs.
Did you just wake up from a coma?
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>>582079537
should just make dungeon/raid drops BoE in that case.
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So era and hardcore are dead now?
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The furry janny can tongue my anus
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>>582079552
its brokens
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Guys i never played Classic. I was maining DK on retail. What is more braindead class in Forever? Mage or Hunter? I like easy non-sweating gameplay. I don't know who to play, and i would prefer something ranged.
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>>582079637
no you're free to play them when ever you want
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>>582079537
Don't think about it.
Think about all the hooriiizzantal prog like DST from gruul, which everyone ran for fun and not with gdkp!
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>>582079505
>I keep it dash
stabbed to death with bayonets? stripped and hung upside down? mass suicide? idgi
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so can blueberry elves get turned into hot blonde gyaru elves
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>>582078895
not at all
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WE ARE RETAIL KIIIIIRKS
WE LL CARRY THE FOREVER FLAME
WE LL FIGHT FOR BLIZZARD
WE LL HONOUR RETAILS NAME
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>>582079658
No thank you that's my job I will rim her dirty hairy ass with delight
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>>582079658
thats like offering candy to a kid...
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>hunter auto shot and wand auto shot nerfd
i hate this i fucking hate this
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>>582079637
Not yet...
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>>582079537
GDKP makes guilds and the social interaction required for them irrelevant. The ban on GDKP is multi-purpose, reduce RMT and improve the social aspect of the game.
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>>582079703
yeah no one is going to play tho
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>>582079668
Mage is more forgiving to retards.
Hunter is pretty forgiving to retards out in the world, but you will drop your spaghetti in groups and fuck people over
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The lead world builder is on twitter right now jerking himself off about how much he respects the classic vision, right after designing sky elves that go through a heavily phased zone you can never return to with a cinematic, super-railroaded questline to level that ends with you killing a raid boss at level 10
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>>582079507
no, just lowers your threat in pve, enemies will still chase you down if you're alone
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The Mage Council (Xaryu, Venruki, Ziqo) has decided:

>Ice Block should be baseline
>Improved Counterspell should be baseline
>add Frozen Orb
>add Time Warp (baseline)
>add Slow (baseline)
>revert Blizzard and Cone of Cold nerfs
>add Dragon's Breath
>add Water Elemental
>add Living Bomb
>add Deep Freeze
>add Water Shield
>add Dual Wield
>add Arcane Shield Block
>add Plate Armor proficiency
>add Invisibility
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>>582075386
But there's nobody to play with them :(
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>>582079718
wait a sec gdkps make it so people run old content why would they ban that? also why do we have to run old content in the first place? im not sure i get it, also dst is one fucking boss essentially that take 10 minutes
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shadowbunnix bros lots of cleavage today
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>Due to a bug, these auto-shots are currently incurring a much shorter cast time, which in practice means that Hunters and wand users don’t need to stop to shoot for as long as intended.

So instead of leaving it as is because it does not break the game
They just revert it to absolute dogshit classic

Great just fucking great
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>>582079893
shes so pretty...
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>>582079893
damn nigga thats crazy
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>female Skelf doesn't have a boob jiggle
AAAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING KEKED BULLSHIT AAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA IMAGINE PAYING FOR THIS TRASH LMAOOOOO
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>>582079893
>Xaryu
annoying moralfaggot
>Venruki
literal retoilet
>Ziqo
shitskin who tried to cancel staysafe over his trump support

Don't think anyone should listen to them.
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>>582079893
sorry frostoids its the astral and fireGODS expac
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>>582079618
I have literally completely ignored classic.
Cus it was aids from the start
I played a druid to 28 on classic launch and was like "why am I doing this it has no future and it is already over run with bots, nugame minmaxers and insufferable autists." And then I went back to retail.

And I was right
And now I will play forever because forever is what classic should have been 8 years ago.
Classic fucked up with no changes and fucked up MASSIVELY when it decided to simply follow exactly in the footsteps of original wow expansions simply to appease a shrinking minority of screeching autists who want to pretend they are OGs.

Classic WoW held nothing new or exciting and no mysteries for me >>582076697
I was there, I did it all.
Forever is a repudiation of no changes classic and an acknowledgement of the many flaws of retail.

I look forward to it immensely, like I said, I am glad to hear that dual spec is a thing.
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>>582079537
so why would someone organize a gdkp run if not for the host cut?
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>>582079668
No pet hunter is probably very retardproof.
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SKY BORN
WE ARE THE NEW PORN
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>>582079668
they nerfd hunter now so.... go paladin until they nerf that too
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>>582079940
Increases demand for rmt. Kills the need to join a guild and socialize for end game raids. Enables faggot gdkp runners who skim off the top and rig groups
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>>582079893
PVP players should go back to street fighter if they want balance
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>>582080057
None of the classic races had boob jiggle, they had this weird shit where their tits would move in and out as they breathed, it looked like worms moving around in a carcass.
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>>582079770
more fitting than you might know
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>>582080164
so what do they do to incentivize running old content? pets? mounts? kek
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>>582079668
Hunter is THE retard class
Mage at least requires you to press several buttons and be aware of CD's if you're gonna AoE farm (nerfed to dogwater in Forever).

Mages are more squishy too.
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>>582079719
>Can't read
Yep! Indian porn addict subhuman
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>>582079849
I believe i'm far from being retard. I just don't want sweaty gameplay which includes huge rotation and timing burst windows. I just want comfy gameplay. 1-3 button rotation would be perfect. Is controlling Pet in Classic pain in the ass?
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WE ARE RETAIL KIIIIIRKS
WE LL CARRY THE FOREVER FLAME
WE LL FIGHT FOR BLIZZARD
WE LL HONOUR RETAILS NAME
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>>582079770
That momement on blizzcon where she said "thank you for carrying the torch" made me chuckle ngl. Charlie's smiling on us from above as we grind.
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>>582080316
If people didn't want the loot in old content then gdkps wouldnt be able to function. It would just be 40 guys sitting there not bidding on anything.
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>>582080242
complete bullshit, all of them have boob physics.
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>>582079893
I can't believe Xaryu the exclusive Classic player demanded all these retail changes, but I believe it completely. Let's get angry about this, /Classicbros/!
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>>582080129
marriage bait
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>>582080453
Wrong. The weird tit movement is especially prominent on tauren females, I noticed it because I was rewatching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71pnoRs5rCA
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Slop of
>>582080129
getting piped by
>>582077629
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>>582080316
You'll run it because...
You just will okay?
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the skytard spammer doesnt even play the game. let that sink in
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>>582080448
they ran it to gear alts or fresh 60s and so on
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>>582080409
Arcane mage is 2 button rotation. Enjoy
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>Ele sham got completely dumpstered
>Need like 500 spellpower to get back to vanilla's original damage numbers
Why?? For what REASON??????
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>>582074490
tytyfp
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>>582080606
YOU DONT UNDERSTAND MAGE NEEDS TO BE UNFUN AND UNPLAYABLY BORING TO COMBAT GOLD SELLERS. YOU JUST DONT GET IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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>>582080129
>>582079893
Her boyfriend is an elwynn farmhand shota btw
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>>582080589
i dont play the beta and im here for sky elf bitch slop
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>>582078034
I would plap holly continuously
there, I said it
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>>582080629
I know you were there but shaman was hilariously OP in vanilla.
frostshocks (you)
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>>582080602
>WHY WOULD PEOPLE RUN OLD CONTENT IF NOT FOR GDKP?
>They do run old content though
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
Join a guild you autist. Stop buying gold
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>>582080316
Im evergreen forever games you dont have to incentivize running old content, the incentive never goes away.
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>>582074221
lmao what a fucking moron, that 3rd statement is retarded, just relaunch classic once again if you think making any changes kills "the authenticity"
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>>582079893
>>582080129
the blue elf spammer is a janny pedophile namefag called Gardener who posts child porn to /b/
it's been regularly avatarfagging/spamming and flooding the general threads and the wow forever threads on /v/ with it's slop for the past 9 days
judging by what sets it and it's gaggle of discord faggots off, it's a pedophile, it's brown, it's a futa faggot, it's a russian cocksucker and it's a commie gaza simp
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Fuck the blizztard playerbase
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>>582080589
That anon is somehow better than most of the other autists in this thread.
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>>582080629
Where are people getting the 500 spellpower numbers from? Are they pulling the values of the adjusted level 60 spells or just extrapolating off the damage values right now?
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>>582080683
some classes having to fight mobs one by one and other classes being able to chain grind mobs ten at a time is not at all fair.

you wanted classic+ right?
part of classic + is addressing the heinous class imbalance of classic.
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>>582080758
very low effort anon
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>>582080316
Gate all of the powerful consumables added in future updates behind mats that you can only get in tier 1 raids, so you still run them in tier 2 and tier 3.
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>save someone's ass
>he doesn't say anything nor emote
FUCK YOU TOO
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>>582074490
ggs :D
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>>582080860
thank god I’m not rolling ally
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>>582075338
how was that meager?
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>>582080819
so you think he'd be cool with his blue qt getting her butthole stretched by middle aged orc dick then, right?
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Stole Whitemane's hat lol
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>>582080918
yea and hunters shouldnt be able to solo highmaul and all the other classes shouldnt do fun stuff viable only to them. everything should be equalized and balanced the true retai.. i mean forever way
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>>582081047
bigger boobs
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>>582074490
I use /bow, /thank or /bye.
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>>582080916
All spell base damage values got hit but some classes got hit worse than others
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Do Orc and Troll women shave? Are they stinky?
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>>582081024
i just had /cheer bound for any interaction with randoms, be it a priest giving me a buff while passing by, or a hunter tagging extra mob off my half eaten ass
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>>582081047
Purpose-built for anal.
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>>582080629
>ele shaman went from meme pvp spec to playable
>waaaaaaahhh ;((((
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>>582081047
what color bush would she have
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>>582081047
holy i bet her cock is small and cute as hell
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>>582080963
Joining a gdkp means you are complicit in RMT. You are laundering gold paid for in $.
So frankly gdkp can fuck right off because it's a big reason why there are so many bots, gold sellers and retarded whales paying for it all.
I don't care that you have to go pick flowers to make a living now.
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really curious how enha is going to do good damage without stormstrike resets and most likely no dual wield.
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>>582080316
They said Undermine Reals from SoD will be coming back so thats all the incentive people need to run old raids
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Thanks for not sperging out about WC3 lore in front if my parents anon, I know that took restraint
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>>582081041
>>582081047
I don't think it would like what most people would want to happen to him, he should be skinned alive and crucified, tortured on a livesream as a warning to all other pedofaggot russniggers about the fate that awaits them all if they ever left their commie block shit hole dungeons they call home lol
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>>582074221
Well if auto shot and wand speed was a bug and wasnt meant to be that fast, we should also not have DoTs tag enemies right away either.
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>>582081282
reals are fucking retarded, wow so fun inviting 40 retards and steamrolling mc in 15 minutes also its just catchup shit anyways i wouldnt do it with a maxxed out toon
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Damn gnomes
Need racials correction
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>>582074490
LIGHT BE WITH YOU
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>>582081323
reddit’s that way pal
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>hunters nerfd into the ground
>warriors dead
>spriest dead

and all before the game launches lmao
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>>582078451
this isnt even accurate, the blue tailoring belt can be equipped at level 10, i assume there are equivalents in other profs?
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>>582081128
>WE ARE RETAIL KIIIIIRKS
>WE LL CARRY THE FOREVER FLAME
>WE LL FIGHT FOR BLIZZARD
>WE LL HONOUR RETAILS NAME
>>582081121
WE ARE RETAIL KIIIIIRKS
WE LL CARRY THE FOREVER FLAME
WE LL FIGHT FOR BLIZZARD
WE LL HONOUR RETAILS NAME
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>>582080870
no you arent
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>>582080082
Same reason anyone would join a gdkp, to get loot.
Hoarding gold is bad for the economy.
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>>582081250
gdkps have been banned for about 3 years man rmt is still prominent and turdworlders are still farming but alright you can rmt in a gdkp you are right
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>>582081401
They could but mats
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>>582081460
Yeah if auto shot wasn't meant to be that quick, then dots tagging the mob upon application is also silly.
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>>582081294
this is a very cute elf boy
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>>582081323
[Darnassian] It's okay anon, just take your meds.
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>>582081460
>spriest dead
how. in what way. I don’t believe you
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>>582081570
wanding is also dead for leveling 1-15
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warlock chads, is affliction THE pvp spec? i'm killing enemy players 2-3 levels above me with ease
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>>582080606
>>582080321
Thanks bros. I'll try hunter then, and if it sucks i'll try mage. Cheers, and may god bless you with huge penises.
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>>582081535
>GDKP isn't responsible for 100% of gold selling so its fine
Play the game you lazy fuck
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>>582081460
litterally 3 of the most broken class in the beta
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>>582080059
This.

GTFO with streamer cancer
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>>582081597
wanding wont autoshot come next week
>>582081657
>the most broken class
esl
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tranny elf players sitting on my lap
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>>582081681
>>582081667
>>582081657
WE ARE UNDEAD PALLY
WE CARRY THE SHITTERS
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>>582081681
ok but shadow priest stops using wands at like level 30 or some shit
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>>582081681
Wanding still autoshots, it just has the initial charge time when first shooting. Just like auto shoot.
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>>582081703
are you even 6.4 bro? cute elf males need height gaps
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Nerf escape artist. Nerf eureka.
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>>582081169
>playable
oh wow a slightly harder hitting lightning bolt every 12 seconds. incredible!!!!
surely this is worth giving up being able to instantly 100-0 a target of my choosing every 2 minutes
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>Have to use nvidia smooth motion just to get decent fps in cities
nigga wtf
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They should add a fist fighter class that would be kino
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>>582081747
You don't even spec into shadow until you get to lvl 40. You just took spirit tap and imp shdow word then leveled as disc. Even as shadow post 40 you are wasting mana and dot time if you arent wanding
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>>582081457
>>582081582
you're in the reddit general, you're retarded
this place censors that word if people use it too much and they fuck with the post timer, the janny pedophile is reddit incarnate lol imagine defending that behavior lol because you think you jerk off together you're it's boyfriend, fag
or ami talking to the tranny janny pedo itself or one of it'schizo multiple personalities it uses to samefag reply to itself, because god knows no one would ever want to erp or talk to it willingly
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Tauren resto druid or orc resto shaman for both pve and BG pvp?
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>>582081476
Why did you reply to me you ape? Emotes have been in the game since the alpha.
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>>582078068
Retail has never added something as good as the Manastorm seethe n cope
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>/ourguy/ swapping to horde and advocating for racial balancing
soda a based
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Before playing:
>heh no way I'm wearing a sissy dress I'm a GIGACHAD dps PVMPERGOD
At level 19:
>pls pls pls mister healerman, pls join my dungerino I need my cruel barberino pls you can have all cloth and greens pls just one run I'll suck your dick, I'll eat your shit pleaaasee
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>>582076650
wand is still strong as fuck and you never used the mechanic in dungeons/group
however it's so fucking broken when leveling
back to tanking as mage because wanding is still stronger than bolts, LOL
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i want to raid and clear endgame content without ever joining a guild. is this possible?
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>>582081926
Druid because its too annoying watching allies split up too much and waste your chain heal bounces
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Why did they ruin warrior so much
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privatefags mad their p2w servers got nuked
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>>582081996
Wand is only going to get stronger as you level, it scales with spellpower at a higher coefficient than your spells do.
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>>582082073
you lost niller
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cant wait to make tons of gold from parsebrains asking for PI
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>>582081980
Healers dont have dicks...
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>>582082025
yes but joining a guild is still the way to go

its not like retail how u need a bunch of qualifications and special spec/class choices to fill out a strict roster, classic raids are much more chill overall.
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DAILY REMINDER THE THE LIGHT WAS INHERENTLY LITERALLY CHRISTIAN

WE HAD CHURCHES AND ANGELS AND GOD IN WARCRAFT I AND II

Then it became a generic "force of god" ala Star Wars in Warcraft III and and the expansions of the game through Wrath. And then eventually it went full gay bullshit and got super retconned into a "hyper order force against hyper chaos voice

>"Before Cataclysm, Chronicle, and later cosmic updates (like Legion and Shadowlands), the lore of the Holy Light was fundamentally different. It was a pure, philosophical, and moral force rather than a tangible alien army or a bureaucratic cosmic faction"

>"Classic lore treated the Light as a moral baseline of hope, love, and comfort. Modern lore recontextualized it as a neutral cosmic faction (Holy vs. Void). As seen with characters like Xe'ra in Legion or Yrel in Battle for Azeroth, the Light is now portrayed as rigid, authoritative, and perfectly willing to mind-wipe or forcefully convert people to achieve absolute
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> Forever devs openly stating the game isnt for retoilets
> seperate canon so untainted by retail writing with all kino wc3 characters alive
> Classes feel way better ( except for mage)
> kino water and graphics

dare i say we are back?
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>>582076650
Why are people saying that wanding is useless or not auto? They're just changing the initial wind up time to how it usually is.
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>>582081980
Who buys a beta just to play as a healer
it's not like the gameplay has changed at all at level 20
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Satanic panic remix?
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>>582081980
>What's that anon? Of course I'm gonna heal you!
>Only thing you have to do is hop on discord and stream yourself plapping your locked up balls for me hahaha
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>>582081980
Can you see what class those dps specs are from that list?
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>>582081773
>the initial charge time
which it shouldnt
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>>582082174
>untainted by retail writing
anon...
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>>582081980
healers are free you can just go to ashenvale and grab them
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>>582082138
You obviously never saw a frost/arcane mage healer in SoD. They did competitive mage dps, while healing the entire raid.
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>>582081979
It's cringe how he only cares about 1v1 in a massively multiplayer game, is this the only way for him to shine?
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>>582082279
1v1s are based

you're a faggot
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>>582082249
i dont see any gay centaurs or tranny gods of death so far
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>>582082172
Sorry anon we can't have the Light be a force of good. We need to go full reddit and make all religion bad despite it being used to heal and bring hope to humanity.
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>>582082181
Anybody claiming a priest didn't wand constantly while leveling allthe way up to lvl 60 in vanilla are crazy.
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>>582081926
Nobody knows. You do have to play the meta class though. Highest HPS will just win every time. It’s not really like other expansions where one broken spell decides pvp, it’s just hps.
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>>582081980
ther's not a single fun healer in vanilla wow
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>>582082156
>its not like retail how u need a bunch of qualifications and special spec/class choices to fill out a strict roster, classic raids are much more chill overall.
classic andies are already requiring pre-bis for dungeon grinds
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>>582082172
sounds way more like Zoroastrianism or Manaecheism with basically zero parallels to Christianity tbqh
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>>582081980
Paladins and shaman will be putting on the dress. They just don't realize it yet.
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>>582082112
They've completely fumbled casters. For ALL of them wanding is literally the best way to dps from level 5 because of the ass spell scaling
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>>582081980
Why so many tanks this time around?
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No Dracthyr No Buy
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>>582076650
Good. I can't believe anyone would be upset that this is being fixed.
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>>582082174
>classes feel way better (except mage)
Care to expound?
I havent touched the game yet I just wanna know why they feel better (except mage)
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I did this and I'm not sure why this exists.
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>>582082247
Visually, especially with a bow, you'd have to stand still for a brief amount of time for anything accurate. Wands seem to be aimed as well, so why would it be different?
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>>582079534
thanks dood
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>>582082374
I hope the RP server won't have shit like that
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i can't wait for the EU server man, holy shit
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>>582082425
Because anyone can tank at low level without even bothering to spec or gear for it
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>>582082374
How many Pre-WC BIS list youtube guides do we have? I need to be ready
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>>582082418
I like it, I always felt that spells should be your big moves and utilities and your rotational attacks should be auto-attacks.
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>>582082454
Without evokers, hunters are the gay class.
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>>582082374
the state of the modern wow player
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>>582081638
i would not recommend hunter in vanilla if you are a retoilet player mainly because it works very weird compared to retoilet. to learn eg. a new rank of taunt you have to go park your pet in the stables, then go find a pet in the world who has a higher rank of taunt, use it until you arbitrarily "learn" it, then dismiss the pet, go back to your pet and take it out, then go to the beast training menu and use a special currency you get from lvling the pet to learn the new rank of taunt. you also need to feed your pet the correct kind of food, manage ammo etc, you also have the largest amount of abilities than any other class.

meanwhile mage is just spamming 1-2 buttons while you cant die because mages are OP.
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>rolling druid on release
>herb/alchemy (very original)
>still want enchanting because all those green drops are free money
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>>582081980
This is your healer. Say something nice about him.
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>>582082539
everything has to be some gay ass culture war doesn't it
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>>582076650
They should fix it for hunters but leave it for wands
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>>582082320
Terrible argument. The only balancing for 1v1 is whomever has the most gear should be able to slam his head on his keyboard and one-shot you just like LoL
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>>582082456
the runup is retarded imo
you still need to stand still to wand /shoot
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>>582082172
Very interesting. Of course we can't have anything actually good connected with Christianity nowadays.
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>>582081294
can you gen her blushing and pouting while holding valentines chocolate for (you)
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>>582081980
>no druid listed
Druid chads are running all druid groups. feels good to be able to handle all the roles
>b-b-b-but paladins can-
there arent many paladins that can do more than mash holy strike, im sure something as simple as seal twisting is beyond their ken.
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>>582077497
>wanding is already so good that it out-DPSes casting spells without having to spend mana
Why would wanding need to be made better? What is wrong with these people?
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>>582081980
>both Horde and Alliance full of tanks
>both Horde and Allince got legitimately no healers

Why?
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doomjeets, wowf is still one of the most watched games on twitch . our response?
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>>582082439
Because he’s got a learning disability and probably uses the interface options that cater to the visually impaired
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>>582082539
Another episode of totaly not scripted beef between two guys who work with the same twitch thott management company?
Might be time to vpn to Australia
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>>582082172
Yea nublizz literally raped and pozzed the light into what you have in forever
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>>582082539
Kek of course he plays horde. Really no one's shocked... well except for you know who lmao
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>>582082663
>gear wins pvp

you've never pvp'd have you
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>>582082670
Wouldn't it be visualized as focusing on the wand's magic for that initial time?
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This general needs to be properly educated.
traps(male) beautiful and attractive
trannies(disgusting and abhorent)
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>blizzard explicitly stated and demoed HD models on SD animations
>no setting for it in game
?
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>>582082697
>better
not reverted to retarded classic
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>>582074980
>>582075137
I love Hedon so much bros
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>>582082539
>home > wow > news > this is a fake meme post
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>>582082374
jfc, i really hope these "people" relegate themselves to the PvP realm.
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>>582082539
>the horde and alliance flipped
>the horde is now all the left leaning faggot hippies

>the alliance is now a bunch of unapologetic chuds who want to be crusaders and exterminate the savages from the earth and fight for humanity
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Is blizzard going to address Asmongold and Olympus at all with just 1 server? It’s literally unplayable. I was trying to get quest in silverpine and my entire screen was filled with Olympus players. 2 of my friends are alliance for the beta and they say they can’t do dungeons because everyone is in olympus and they just need on everything and grief
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>>582075094
They aren't wrong. They criticize how retail has become this seasonal waste of time and Blizztards response was to make Classic servers that run the course and dump everyone into retail like it's some Diablo season end. Now they want everyone to start again with God knows what planned trajectory for the future. They know nothing but seasonal grind and this ends no different.
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>>582082172
posting an ai search screencap literally discredits anything else you might say.
It is an attempt to appeal to authority when that authority is widely known to shovel out complete bullshit.
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>>582082869
it didn't flip, it was always like that
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I miss when these threads weren't filled with coomer avatarfags tourists .... I miss /wowcg/ ...
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I don't know why anyone isn't talking about this but I really don't like the class design direction they have gone with most of the specs. They following the pattern of all retails specs
>build resource/buff with spell
>spend resource/buff with another spell
People cry about ability homogenization but the real killer is play style homogenization. The retail class designers only know build/spend. Where classic has most classes with just a bunch of spells and it's left up to you to decide how you cast them. There is no hard required interaction on a vast majority of spells. This is superior. I fucking hate the way they're making this retail. Every fucking mage spec is now build/spend
>arcane build charges to use missles
>fire build charges to use pyro
>ice build debuff to use ice lane
Fuck you Aggrend you dumb nigger.
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>>582082684
Yes. Christianity is wrong.
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>>582082810
There is no setting for transmog either, I assume its just not available in the beta
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>>582082728
blizzjeet, views can be bought
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>>582082869
That's how it always was you dumb fuck, why do you think smelly, unwashed losers who never cut their hair played horde back then?
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>>582082802
tons of zoomer trannies are more beautiful than 90% of actual women these days
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>>582082907
I'm betting blizzard will just silently dump every olympus mutt onto it's own containment shard eventually
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>>582082976
the transmog setting is on the transmog NPC by the barbers. I haven't found anything for the HD/SD animation toggles though.
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>>582082172
>the Light goes from being aesthetic with Latin Gregorian chants and abbeys and cathedrals to a generic "ORDER ORDER ORDER RELIGION BAD" in retail
Can WoW Forever actually keep the Light as some badass crusader holy force for good? I want to exercise demons with prayers as a fucking Paladin Knight.
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>>582082539
Exquisite bait, just look at the yield
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>>582082172
IRL demons don't like the idea of ontological good and evil
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>>582082782
I have and most of it on a small scale was just using LoS or kiting, and cringe pvp player want to get the same gear playing against their 2 friends as someone leading a 100+ people guild organizing raids which is mega cringe.
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>>582082456
because i want the game to be easier ok?????
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Asmonbros. They're mad again even on PvE kek
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>>582082573
>big moves
>fireball with 3 seconds cast does less damage than wanding
what big moves lmao
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>>582082907
Does the layering separate you from players you have ignored?
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>>582082907
>alliance are retarded

yep, checks out
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>>582082539
SHE
BLACK CLOUDS FILL THE SKY
HER
I HEAR MY BATTLE CRY
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>Alliance
>Mage
Yep, time to farm undead pally HKs
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How unpopular will rp realms be compared to normal pve realms? I'm thinking they might be comfy
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>>582083080
>fantasy is DEMONIC ok libtard?
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>>582083063
brown, bean crusted hands.
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>>582083168
Blizzard is the mage's most powerful spell.
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>>582083267
>he doesnt know
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>>582082907
giving them attention only makes it worse, if you do your best to ignore them, they'll get bored and fuck off, just like their leader did in classic wow 2019
they live for attention, just like their leader, they do things purposely to make you mad to get attention, they are essentially bratty children, but in this case their brown third world men that are extremely lonely
there's a good chance you know this and are just baiting
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It's kinda funny how angry wanting the crusaders and priests to be Christian upsets some of the redditors lurking here.
>"No! You can't have a Christian themed religion in your game with Churches and Priests and Crusaders! It's bad! You're brown if you want to be a badass fucking crusader knight fighting against the undead demonic hordes!"
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>>582083150
>Asmonbros
go back, streamerfaggot
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>>582083026
Heckerino I love transmogging to other crap models. Can’t wait to transmog my lightbringer shoulders into judgement set like a complete boss. Everyone will notice my cool judgement set and get super jealous of my sweet shoulders and weapon. Then they’ll inspect and see I’m even more impressive looking as I’ve easily replaced them with newer tooltips that have highest possible stats. Everyone’s gonna be inspecting me dude and I’ll get private messages saying “congrats you did it!!!! You got the transmog, im weeping with joy for you. I also have that transmog on retail, let’s group up and slay some dragons duder!!!”
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>>582083227
deeply unpopular and thats why we need to heavily reinforce the sterotype of them being gross and full groomers and sex pests.

That image is what keep them good.
Normalfaggots will never understand the level of armor provided by Moon Guards reputation.
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Will there be RP-PvP servers?
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>>582082907
I don't believe you. Asmon's viewers are not the type to grief.
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>>582083315
I know it got nerfed to do less damage to every target after the 4th, it's still a great spell and there's no way it couldn't be. Damage all enemies in an area and slow them? That shits powerful as fuck in any genre of video game.
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>>582081979
Horde have better pvp racials than Alliance though?
Besides gnome which is getting nerfed the only decent one is Human, but stuns aren’t that common in vanilla outside of fighting rogue. Dwarf is hot garbage and night elf is only decent. Orc and Undead mog alliance racials desu
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>>582074490
thanks and /cheer
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>BRO STREAMERS ARE RUINING EVERYTHING

ive yet to run into these waves of people, im still running into ninjas needing faggots in dungeons and tag stealing retards who dont even have a guild or associate with these rent free streamers. am i playing with bots? literally leveling is like every other game, even when these "Events" are happening the world of warcraft still fucking spins
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>>582083380
Best of luck in your fight against the enemies in your head, who are definitely in the room with us right now
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assmongoys 80-90iq retards are turning everyone against them. unironically making them like the left more because they're just so obnoxious
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>>582083267
good one
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>>582074490
>Thanks bro let me know if you need help with anything later
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>>582080807
You lost
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>log into tirisfal
>people talking about how the streamer followers are human cattle and making fun of them
>log into elwynn forest
>people praising asmongold
>>
INV TO ESFAND LAYER
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>>582076650
>>582074221
When I thought things could not get more based...
I FUCKING KNEEL
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>>582080541
No he's right, look at undead female tits while they run
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>>582083521
The slow and base damage was nerfed too
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>>582083546
the posts here are incredibly detached from reality
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>>582082172
>CHURCHES AND ANGELS AND GOD IN WARCRAFT I AND II
so nothing about holy trinity?

light is islam
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>>582083630
state of alliance
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Our guy AdvertiseSP is streaming again btw. I hope he rises to counter asmongold, but there’s legit ~10k players across all his guilds so it might not be the same 2019 vibes
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>everyone is rolling an undread palatranny
>healer deficit
>rolling a resto dudu
>"offering healer services, reserving all green and BOEs, plus tip"

I'm gonna pop some tags
Only got twenty dollars in my pocket
I'm, I'm, I'm huntin', lookin' for a come up
This is fucking awesome
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Forever > Vanilla in aesthetics
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>>582083798
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>>582083380
Orcs are black people
Garrosh was hitler
Blood elves are drug addicts
Humans have like tons of demoralizing things like their racial is literally spirit, a metaphor for not giving up. And also every man for himself, a subtle not to throwing your friend under the bus to escape.
Tauren have massive penises

They literally wrote down like every edgelord concept and designed wow around it
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>>582082374
This is how it's going to be unless they make the game even more casual.
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>>582083798
dynmaic shadows are good. The bloom and fog is shit with the current implementation.
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>>582083792
Worst part of this story is that you have to play a healer. That's just sad.
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>>582083470
probably not, RpPvP was never a very popular game mode outside of Emerald Dream, and in a megaserver it would be flooded with griefers. Like 150% streamers would be organizing foot zergs to hunt down role players of any sort, and pat themselves on the back for "getting the pedo" after they killed grognar the orc miner stonetalon, who just likes to rp walk down the road and talk to people.
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>>582083384
To where? Have you looked at the state of the game? it belongs to us bro
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>>582083632
That poser pretending to be good at wow again?
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>>582083792
I've always played a rogue, gonna continue to play a rogue even if people say it's ass. There's a potential ambush rupture build down the sub tree that sounds like it could be pretty good for raids on paper
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>>582083798
the setting and world looks real good with updated "vanilla-fied" assets. the models though man... just a bit off
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>>582083772
He's the hero Forever needs.
Asmon is still so anal ravaged 7 years later he has to cower on a carebear server
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>>582083798
vghhhhh fuck the sovl gas is so kino
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>>582074221
>retarded dev admitting forever is just a vanilla based private server
pathetic
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>>582082907
Bro probably wont even make it to 60 hes too busy being a political and spiritual guru.
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>>582083546
>>582083720
You got to realize most people here dooming are some flavor of 3rd worlder and parasocial fags that view a streamer being the sole representation of the game.
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LMAO
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>"mages" still seething that aoe being nerfed ruins the whole class
funniest thing to come out from Forever
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>>582083921
I've always played healer and enjoy healing my pvp bros as they smack niggers for me
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>>582083925
man I wish we could just gas all streamers and influencers
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>>582074490
ty ss
(HC btw heh)
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>>582083965
>for raids
Honestly I could not care less if I'm top dps'ing in raids. I'm not playing forever to parse. Meanwhile if I'm fucking around in the world and ganking people and having fun, that is worth 100x more. And rogue is the class that allows that to happen. Any other class and you can't really infiltrate enemy territory without being hunted down into a 1x10.
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>>582083695
You can't wand against more than a single target at a time and the only other AoE slows are totems and hunter traps that don't do any damage at all. They'd have to nerf it to nothing to make it useless when fighting 4 or more enemies. 200 base damage to 192 base damage is not a big enough nerf to make it useless.
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>>582084046
mages has some of the best spell scaling and coefficients, they're going to pump hard at 60
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>>582083380
Also the entire Elwynn Westfall redridge duskwood STV is a metaphor about brown people invading the west. It’s literally called “west fall”. Theyre just selling crap though, I try to ignore it and play the game because nothing ever happens dude when the TV is off.
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>>582083380
Christianity is lame so implying that the cool magical religion in game like the lamest most boring and fakest religion on earth makes it gay
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Gonna be really nice by like January when all the bigger streamers are bored of this honestly, nicer here and in game. Streamers and their ilk aren't the worst, but they ain't the best either.
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>>582084042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yThfdrdFL8
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>>582084075
dont forget the browns.
something RPPVP can only work when 95% of participants are white and have some sense of honor, principles and self control.
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This sucks. I want to play alliance on the pvp server but all my friends are going horde.
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>all ROL quests available at 15
>except one
blizzard is so fucking obnoxious
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>haven't touched WoW in over 5 years
>Forever got me to play again
>spent the past few days playing it
>having a great time, actually looking forward to release of a WoW product for once
>decide to check out what's going on in the mongolian basket weaving imageboard
>like half the thread is a bunch of jaded fucks who are impossible to please and spend all their days being miserable
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>>582084042
haha what a comedy xD
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Can't wait for the scarlet initiate class
https://files.catbox.moe/fijeoe.png
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As of the right now I’m trying really hard to figure out what to main. And I’m really bummed out that there’s only one mega server because it means queues and dealing with streamers (i avoided Faerlina in 2019 for this reason)
It’s not even a streamers ruin everything with their bs. It’s that, when asmongold eventually gets bored of being carried through 99% of the content and then getting bodied by gankers the remainder he and his what, 20000 playerbase? Are just going to vanish all at once and cause a massive disparity on the server
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The King has spoken. Retoilets can kill themselves as soon as possible.
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>>582084219
KEK dis nga really mad because he can't pretend to be a wizzard or w/e in his autistic friend simulator
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>autoshot was bugged
hunterbros it's OVER
>new pet abilities
hunterbros we are BACK
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>>582084232
Horde is much better for pvp
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>>582084046
Aoe was genuinely too hard and also caused lots of problems in the open world. Very frustrating to be a mage and be told you’ll level 5 times faster if you do this hard as fuck strategy and also earn 100 times more gold. Then you try it and discover you aren’t jokered.
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>>582084275
It's just handful of mentally ill trannies who spend all day every day shitposting about the exact same things. They'll leave when they get bored of getting no (You)'s
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>>582084351
Kikebane won.
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>>582076635
Hunter is a badly designed class in the opposite way
>have range from your target
>become unkillable in world pvp
>target opens on you or another person joins the fight
>you just flop around trying to hit wing clip to save your life
The beta has taught me to just run away and hide if I ever see a red hunter because I just auto lose as a paladin. Bubble won't let me catch a dude in cheetah. But if I sneak up on one? I just kill him before he can do much.
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my bis will be a night elf female for my gnome femboy
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>>582084386
lol
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>>582083772
>only available to subscribers
How miserable. Does he still have the fire and passion to go grief asmongold or is he just another normie now?
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>>582084386
Racial wise it seems pretty balanced. Gnomes have great stuff, but so do orcs and touch of the grave is apparently busted according to sims (lol)
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>>582082249
For now, yes. Most of new quests have been very classic.
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>>582084351
if you look up has-been in the dictionary it shows a picture of this guys face
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>>582084351
based KKKungen
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>>582084351
I read this in his voice
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>>582084386
Horde cities are so poop compared to alliance cities it really puts me off from playing them at all
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>>582084351
He wants heroic dungeons, just like his beloved tbc and wotlk
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>>582082907
play horde and farm the losers
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>make a fair post on reddit
>get downvoted into oblivion
REEEEE
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>>582084373
>Waits patiently for silithid to return
Silithid on Aggressive with Venom Web Spray, my beloved
we will be together again soon
soon will we once again brutally murder all the rogues when they open on us and get instantly counterstunned and dotted.
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>We will defend it with our lives.
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>>582084215
>>582084285
fuck you guys I raughed
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>>582084373
Was there a patch today? Where can I read this?
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>>582084536
Thunder Bluff is pretty cozy now when it has people. Probably the best horde city.
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>>582084536
True, except for Undercity being the best city in the game. They just need to tone down the green water glare a bit in forever.
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>>582084373
>Fox
Cool. Any other new pets been found?
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>>582084584
Explain what's wrong with heroic dungeons without using the word retoilet or having a meltie
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There use to be a violin emote which would basically say “you play the worlds smallest violin for (name)”. And, blizz has to remove it from the game because it offended people so deeply lol. Like if someone was complaining and they got violinned, they’d be fucking fuming and probably opened reports. I’d love to see the reports that these mentally disabled gamers have been sending blizz over the years. Hopefully they add that emote to the permanent graveyard, it’s too offensive even to me. Like im already extremely upset writing about violin emote of 2008. I can’t stop fucking screaming in anger.
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>>582084351
He has a point though. Look at the WoW forever forums and see all the people trying to get retail features into forever. Unironic and literal NPC behavior.
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>>582084317
what model / artist style are you using for that? She looks great
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>>582084671
>>582084669
I'd love it if they made those cities more relevant than they were in nilla
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>>582084603
>shit opinion
>literally nigger name
>uuuh why arent these people upvoting me
truly a mystery
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>>582084627
yeah I cringed pretty hard there too, what a melodramatic pompous fag.
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>>582082427
at least we still have onyxia
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>>582084603
>
kek
Also what makes you think the beta is imbalanced? Class power has always been imbalanced at lower levels.
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>>582084686
It's a slippery slide and immersion breaking that there is 2 versions of a dungeon. I think they should just be harder by default
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Retoiletards going into seethe overdrive.
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>>582084195
fuck man I really wish we got gobs at launch
They'd have been a perfect fit
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>>582084461
>you just flop around trying to hit wing clip to save your life
I mean you had scattershot and feign death frost trap. Or intimidation for bm
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>>582084603
>niggerpuncher
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>>582084275
yeah. the first 2-3 days were fun with hype and the excitement mostly outweighed the doomjeets. once the anti boosting and anti RMT mechanics came out this general severely deteriorated. this game makes people mad
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>>582082427
good riddance
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why yes i play a gnome with pink hair, how could you tell
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Why they go and nerf hunters man

Holy shit i dont wanna melee weave again HOLY FUCKING SHIT MAN
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>>582081980
I will be your healer (I'm a mage and will roll need on all the clothie dps drops)
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>>582084712
well yeah, retail players get very upset when you make a version that doesn't include their past
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>>582082539
i even included the "this is a fake meme post" in and all of you fell for it?
holy
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>>582082427
One of the best things about Forever is that it's completely and utterly filtering out furfaggots and other degenerates
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>>582084823
i'm not playing the beta lol.

i just saw they nerfed balance dudu and ele shammy to the ground.
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>>582084913
By smell.
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>>582084686
i dont want multiple version of dungeons
when someone say "I killed onyxia" I dont want to have to ask if it was lfr, normal, hc or mythic
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>>582084351
Pilav was invited and he is a retoilet player
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>>582084536
alliance cities are trash, tb is the most aesthetic city in the game by far
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>>582084686
if you want a harder dungeon, make a harder dungeon. stop being lazy or wanting lazy shit non-MMO slow in your WoW classic gameplay
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>>582084603
lmao you can make a reddit name with nigger in it? thought that would be insta deleted
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The only thing I, as a mage player want, is a different version of Arcane. I'm fucking sick of Arcane Blast and Missile Barrage, they could do so many cooler things with the spec. Focus it around blinking and movement, turn it into a utility/support spec where you empower allies with haste and brilliance aura, even the healer shit in SoD was better. Stop rolling out Arcane Blast and Missile Barrage, it's boring.
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>>582084603
regarding the sharding thing, i had lots of people i grouped with show up again and again with their names in light blue, indicating that i've played with them before
i think its cool and it works, besides some fucked up shit like sharding when you enter a capital city or exit it
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>>582084351
I call it the Californian Conundrum. California and hippydippy left wing ideology is so good that people have to flee the Californian hellscape en masse to states that aren't California and try to make those California instead.
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>>582084536
Thunder Bluff mogs every other city in the game.
It's only problems were you couldnt get world buffs there (no longer a problem) and its really far away from blackrock mountain.
Oh and the dumb bridge huts that dismount you, hopefully also fixed. It' perfect otherwise
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>>582084686
i just want free loot
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>>582084351
>died out due to social media
Ironic because streamers are the biggest cancer of WoW.

The classic servers died because they were too Classic.
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>>582084621
SOON
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>>582084467
>>582084498
Even disregarding the orc/undead racials its just the better faction for pvp. Horde is more active in wpvp and will help intervene if they see you getting attacked.
Alliance players are known for running away in fear and ignoring their own when they’re getting ganked
As Horde you also get to farm streamers and their minions for +izzat
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>>582084275
The coping and seething on /v/ has been some of the worst I've seen in recent memory. It isn't quite to the level of Elden Ring just yet, but if the launch is as big as I think it'll be, it's going to come close.
Still, it's worse than the usual irony-poisoned pessimism because you have
>existing, decade-old anti-Blizzard sentiment
>private server players pissed off because Turtle and Ascension are dead
>Classic players pissed off because Forever is stealing players from MoP, TBC, and Era
>Retail players pissed off because they don't understand Classic
>trolls, for whom this is like shooting fish in a barrel
and then factor in that the average WoW player is incapable of critical thinking, and that internet discourse as a whole has degenerate severely in the past decade or so.

Almost all of my IRL friends are either excited, cautiously optimistic, or have a more nuanced take on it. The internet sucks.
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>>582074490
/drink is a good one
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why is the goop in undercity so bright
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>>582085082
In epoch you didn't dismount when you went in the bridge houses. One of the many details from these servers that made them so kino. I'm not playing the beta so Idk if that's in forever or not.
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>>582084950
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>>582084351
forever is going to die in a few months just like classic did lmao
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>>582085172
why did they hate elden ring
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>>582085082
Nah, real tierlist fact checked by true wow patriots
>Stormwind > Ironforge > TB > UC > Darnassus > Orgrimmar
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TOTAL RETOILET DEATH I will kill every FUCKING single last one of you greasy balding babboon rats
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>>582085193
Freshly milked by sylvanas
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>>582074221
1) why are there 2 alliance guilds
2) why was dogfart left out of the OP last thread?
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>>582085036
do you spam invite people to share quest progress?

because i do that i worry its gonna just group me with random russians because i just spam invite anyone around me by habit
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>>582083742
Now the light is just another element like fire or air. Very sad.
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>>582084351
>We will defend it with our lives
>muh community
>>>is a LITERAL streameroid that not only played retail until Sneedolands but only quit because he was too shit to do mechanics that 10 year olds can figure out
This nigger needs to be exploded with nukes.
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>>582084275
>who are impossible to please and spend all their days being miserable
Criticizing a game because I want it to be better means I am miserable?
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>>582084621
>>582085167
silithids shouldn't be trainable because they aren't generic animals. they are weirdo alien monsters mind controlled by c'thun.
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>>582085168
>behavior
Well that's a different matter to discuss and not really objective.
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>>582084603
>obvious doomjeet from here with fucking "niggerpuncher" as his name
Try to be a little bit more subtle.
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>>582081128
So priest is winning bigly then? Because getting that much SP seems to be as simple as equipping 1 staff and then a few pieces of blues and that's only at level 20.
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>>582085353
neither is your mum but she is still my bitch
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>>582084828
>2 versions of the dungeon
>immersion breaking

It's easy to imagine that time has gone by and shit changed.
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>>582084686
Instance difficulty modes imply item progression is purely based on iLvl which is not the spirit of Classic.
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>>582084881
alright im tired of pretending these Elves dont have a color gradient.
why are her feet red and her face white?!
Bad blood circulation?
Does she have diabetes?
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>>582085414
>t. nigger that gets punched
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>>582085353
AHHH NIGGERMAN HELP MEEEE
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>>582084373
>slows movement by 50% for 9 sec
What the fuck
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>>582084745
anima, shadyfox and the character lora
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>>582085353
BM hunters should get a deep tree talent that allows them to either have two ordinary pets or tame and use one exotic.

Its not "No Changes" its classic plus
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>>582085602
Based, fellow anima enjoyer. Thanks broski
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>>582085298
TB has the bank, mailbox, ah, inn, anvil, forge and flight master all within a 10 second walk of eachother.
Has chill music, great vibes, and a good view.
It's the goat when you don't count its location on the map against it. Still great in the AQ phase though
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>>582079810
Good, fuck you. Every faggot hunter on the pvp realm prancing around in non-stop cheetah form being able to do all that gay bullshit is retarded.
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>>582085458
Okay but the items are the exact same but with a higher ilvl, same shit like mythic plus. Soulless just thinking about it
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>>582085430
it that stays shadow priests will be disgusting in both pve and pvp with dots critting
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>>582074490
/curtsey
/goodbye
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>>582084665
i found on twitter but they didnt post the source so i dunno
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>>582085245
classic lasted long through naxx
fucking delusional retard faggot
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>>582085670
>Okay but the items are the exact same but with a higher ilvl, same shit like mythic plus.
Just make them drop the same items with the same ilvl
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What classes would Furbolgs have? In WoW they're only really shown as warriors, shamans, hunters and druids(?). Hearthstone has 1 (one) Furbolg mage though.
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>>582082439
mage needs some spice in its rotation, atm its still just 1 or 2 spells at max level.

im not saying buff or nerf their dmg, just some more buttons to press would be nice
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i wish my character could look like whitemane desu
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>>582084665
no
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>>582075949
I'm still sad they censored the troll nipples and nipple piercings in zg
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>>582085267
/v/ stopped playing games more than a decade ago, all they do is seethe about new popular thing for any possible contrived reason.
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the increase in incel/political spam on horde side is because soda flamed asmon's guild for shitting up world chat
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>>582085330
not really, just for group quests, dungeons and the odd quest here and there like the northwatch hold ones
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>>582085602
>When a group of Orcs break into the cathedral
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>>582085602
>loras now being used to replicate art styles of AI generators and not artists
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>>582085812
As opposed to the other classes who also have 1 or 2 buttons as their main rotation?
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>>582084665
>>582084665
>>582084665
HELLO GOOD MORNING SAARS WHERE DO I REDEEM THE PATCH NOTES
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>>582085267
Mostly because it's popular and an open world game.
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>>582085772
What's the point then, achievements?
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>>582085662
>pvp
Nobody cares about that
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>>582085730
>it's going to take a few more months to d-die ackshually!
same shit, tard
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Surv hunters should get fury of the eagle and wildfire bomb
its part of their spec identity
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>>582085007
That shit isn’t gameplay. The only thing that matters is single target dps. Time and time again we’ve witnessed how dps support roles are complete fails. Movement is also not an important mechanic in pve or pvp, it’s yet again only single target damage. Theres no outplay you spec, because to actually kill someone means you need to do high single target dps. So evoker in retail I guess, they just made it strong as fuck. And it was actually too strong raids were like half of these fucking things. It’s just not mmo gameplay. Arcane will never be a mage spec, it’s fire ice and lightning those are the actual mage archetypes. Arcane is like its own seperate thing that can be found on many different themes, like it’s an excuse to do basically any type of spell. Arcane can be tanks, it can be a summoner class, it can be a conjurer, it can be a support, it’s just like literally anything and it’s stupid. Arcane was used instead of lightning in wow as a result of limited talent points, meaning one tree was likely to be used as a type of filler or buffer of your other trees. So if they used lightning instead you’d just be playing lightning mage and taking some buffing talents from frost and fire. And lighting is essentially similar to frost, it’s an immobilizing DPS theme. Or it can debuff like if you’re shocked you’d expect to be weakened. So there’s tons of ability tooltip overlap basically so they just chose frost instead, probably because the visual effect is more eye catching.
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>>582074490
>ungroup because we're done quest
>realize there's another group quest right after it
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>>582085812
arcane mage in wotlk was the most fun i had on a dps class besides frost 2h dk in mop

3 button rotation with yuge crits is peak mmo dopamine
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Should I play Druid or Warlock?
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>>582085963
An achievement would be fine. Could make them drop a higher quantity of loot or add some useless vanity items.
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>>582086143
wotlk in general had the best class rotations honestly
everything was fun
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>>582085328
1) Little Space an NA vg guild that used to go by Clover Club on 2019 classic, DogFart is a fresh EU guild, EU and NA won't be able to play together on release
2) I'm on this thread every day and I don't think I've seen seen a single in game screenshot of DogFart, I thought it was a fake guild desu
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>>582085865
Imagine dudes were out there calling other dudes incel and laughing at their computer monitor over and over for hundreds of years. It just seems unlikely, im going to claim aliens took over humanity and use violence as a method of control.
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>>582085964
The devs care about the integrity of one of the core gameplay aspects of MMOs, so yeah somebody does.
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>>582085328
some fag removed it
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>>582086212
>Could make them drop a higher quantity of loot or add some useless vanity items.
Ah, the endgame of korean mmos... getting that bikini cosmetic to drop
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Going to be so funny when classic andys start asking for 'fresh' and the game falls off.
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lil bro thinks we wont be living inside of a computer by the end of 2050
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>>582085987
You went to all this trouble instead of just advocating for playable satyrs, please fucking die retoilet subversive tranny
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>>582082716
only women play healers in classic and everyone playing rn is 40+ years old and bald
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>tanked for a group quest
>they say good job
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>>582086191
My 2 fav classes.
Druid if you like to support and or tank in groups. Want as many options as possible out in the world.
Warlock if you must dot everything and like balancing your resources and sick class flavour with demons n shit.
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>>582085987
sexo
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which one of you keeps screaming "death to the living" in undercity
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>>582082374
Those are not classic andies my dude
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>wands actually feel good to use for once
>akshually that's a bug
REEEEEEEEEEeee
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>level 14 and still getting quests in Tirisfal Glades
Oh my God let it end
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>>582084603
>reddit.com/u/Guilty_Turn8903

found your real account, faggot
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>>582086447
Why are classic Andy's so fucking angry all the time?

They literally have Classic to play. It's RIGHT there, part of the sub fee
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>>582086416
Technology hasn’t advanced in 800 years. It’s highly probable that this is it. And that aliens want more of it, and you can see what they want more of. Theyre building more apartment buildings that they fill up with their wives and children haha. Yeah it’s an incestuous alien gangbang and they’re making us pay for it. Trust me im a type of pro tarot card reader.
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>>582086624
The final talent point in the Arcane Mage talent tree should be allowing you to use wands while moving, you can not prove me wrong.
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>>582086708
>that pic
lmao
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>>582086245
To be fair Little Space is bad on the beta. I was in there for 3 days and literally no one was talking or doing anything together, no profession help, no dungeon runs, nothing. Maybe it's all in some discord or some shit, but it wasn't really stated anywhere. The retail style guild chatlog had barely moved in days, so I left. Joining a social random guild on the beta feels far better.
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>>582086657
Stop questing there and go do like 5 dungeons and their quests to hit level 20
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>>582086397
I don't understand this retoilet mindset, people like the game and want to do it again, who are you to deny them or deny a company from making money for providing a service, are you some commie troon wtf
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>wands have always been awesome
>they fix one bug with kiting with wands being too strong, something no one in classic ever did

>ITS OVER WANDS LITERALLY UNUSABLE

who are these tourist freaks
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>>582086397
??????
ask your resetera handler to fill you in, they released a roadmap. you don't even know what you're talking about. hit up your discord.
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>>582086624
So did bows but no classicfags have to whine so hard they gotta ruin qol
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>>582086705
They watched the game they loved get raped for 20 years straight.
While the rapists told them they didn't actually want their beloved game back. Now all the rape rape enablers are screeching at them to open the gate and let them come in to do some more rape
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>>582086657
Youre suppose to skip tons of quests so that you can grind while moving. Grinding same level mobs is worth a lot of xp. Quests are actually only worth about 10 mob kills, so you’ll want to download my restedxp guide that will get you legendary times on your speed clear.
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what makes me howl is private servers tards think their content was original in anyway
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>>582086839
Wands are a leveling tool, nothing more. Wand kiting would've maybe brought them to end-game viability.
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>>582086705
It's trash but they refuse to admit it. Now they want to repeat the experience in Forever. It's the definition of insanity.
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>>582086891
oh i didn't know they were removing era
weird
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>>582086839
>>they fix one bug with kiting with wands being too strong, something no one in classic ever did
Wand werent too strong its not the damage
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>>582086705
Reddit spacing, opinion discarded
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>>582074221
What are the patch changes? I hit the patch notes in the BNet app, but it doesn't say shit about Forever beta just all live versions.
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PICK A SIDE ANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

ARE YOU WITH THE NIHILISTIC NILLERS

OR

THE RETAIL KIRKS

CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
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>>582086995
i want them both to fuck off
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>>582086748
kirby lore in one image
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>>582086708
counterpoint: wands shouldnt be in the game because they are gay.
get a real staff you limp wristed harry potter sissy
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>level 20
>quest log full of quests ready to turn in
>cleared all dungeons
>bis acquired
now what
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>>582086931
Do you similarly unhinge your jaw for Blizz stealing every new feature from other MMOs released over the past 20 years?
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>>582074592
This nigga is so unsettling.
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>>582087097
No, fuck you.
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>>582087119
fill out a job application
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>too many dungeon and crafted blues raaaaaahhhhhh
>but dungeon xp is nerfed so it's really a matter of luck on if you get the drop you wanted or not and you most likely wont get the chance to run it again (considering dungeons are only filling so quick atm because of FRESH and level lock)
>when the blue crafted gear requires an insane crafting grind that you just literally wont bother with while leveling and will only do on alts you were already planning to funnel gold/bags/gear to already
Doomers are kind of funny.
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>>582086995
I chose neither
I chose wow forever
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>>582086960
Firstly, what about all the pre classic '19 years of rape?
Secondly, TBC was part of the rape, people just didn't realize when it started.
Thirdly Vanilla no changes needs resets to stay playable, mausoleum servers are all era are now
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>>582087159
every mmo over the last 20 years is a wow clone
except gta online
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>>582086839
I kite with Wands a lot in classic. Not as a method of killing but it’s usually done as a method of moving towards my next objective while getting maximum xp efficiency out of my current hp/mp pool. The only change id like to see is that you can queue up a wand attack slightly quicker. Because currently if you move after wanding, you have to spam the wand button because it won’t register until it’s 90% off cooldown. Or you can probably use a spammable macro that never turns off wand attack. Because without the macro basically, you’ll be spamming wand at 89%, then at 91% you’ve accidentally queued the attack and then unqueued the attack and the result is there’s no attack obviously. Yeah basically it functions differently than normal wand queues when you’re moving.
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>>582084686
splitting content amongst multiple tiers of difficulty creates more power creep. All the best items should be available on a difficulty level that is fairly balanced, not designed for the sweatiest of retards.
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Speedrunners have already figured out a route to reach level 20 in 6-8 hours. It's probably safe to assume level 60 can be done in under 48 hours, especially with dungeons and quest XP.
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>>582086708
there should be more wanding shit, i agree. a 31 pointer for moving wanding, some wand abilities. a wand focused spec maybe could be good for a future cloth class.
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my succubus got a sexy name
feelsgoodman
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>>582086839
I still havent even seen a source for this so idk why anyone thinks it's real
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>>582087348
>WE'RE FINALLY GOING HOME BOYS JUST LIKE IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS
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>>582087348
Hot diggedy dog, I don't give a damn!
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>>582086931
>most of the ""original"" tu*tle content was stolen from scrapped blizz concepts or the most obvious shit ever
the ruski mind is a strange and hollow place
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>>582086891
Ok but it was never THEIR game. And drop the fucking melodrama about "rape." The fact that these people assert some sense of ownership of the story and game, e.g., THEY 'RUINED' ARTHAS, is genuinely baffling. It's blizzards story to tell and classic Andy's didn't like the direction it took. So they cried and shit themselves until someone finally made it how they want. And this appeasement does what it usually does, not satisfy them but make them demand more and more like the selfish children they are
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>>582075341
Hmmm, not horrible at all. Like you start off at a flight master, then can take over controls and stick around at an area like the troll party island to check it out. Then once you are ready to continue on the flight you press a button and the flight path starts back up.
probably a huge pain in the ass to code, and not realistic but there are def some times I saw cool shit on a FP and want to stop and check it out.
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So you still can't whisper people with umlauts huh
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>>582087484
Deja vu
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>>582086853
I'm aware, but classicfafs can't help but wanting fresh starts
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Yup, Forever won
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>>582087232
You actually get a huge amount of crafting materials while leveling, if you take the corrosponding gathering profession. Like you’ll end up with like 400 copper bars by the time you reach the next tier or nodes. And, it’s not too much extra work to hit the nodes when you’re already right there. So you’ll definitely be able to craft your own items while leveling. Altho im not sure if it’s worth doing yet. Probably isn’t, the value of leveling slightly quicker generally is just much better than anything gear will provide.
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Are the servers down? I havent been able to log in since yesterday
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>>582087218
no no, fuck you!
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I say add Heroic and Mythic raids / dungeons. They should drop no items, and provide no achievements or rewards. Everything related to the content can only be obtained in the base level dungeons.

Do this and you'll see how many faggots actually want harder content. Next to no one will run them. People that ask for this shit just want more exclusive and better rewards because they have zero real life accomplishments and getting video game accolades is the only form of validation that is within reach.
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>>582087357
You are literally never getting a new class lmao
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>>582087635
>Level design
>Means world design
>Everything new looks like retail
>Everything on their artstation design page is retail xpac art
Hmm.
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>>582087702
Nah I'm playing in this moment and they haven't been down at all in that time. Yesterday was a server restart for like three minutes but that's all
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>>582087707
Always found it retarded how mages in WoW literally hit enemies with their staves like simpletons and not shoot cool hot white energy from the tip
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>>582087348
The record speed runner on classic is already doing those times. I also get those times on classic. On forever you’ll definitely be getting 20 in less than 4 hours, some classes will do it in 2.5.
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>>582087803
looks just like retail, yup
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>>582087348
Speedrunners dont do dungeons though.
>no one else at their level
>go out of the way for long quest chain for dungeons (like defias for instance)
>if you do manage to get a group, every player in that dungeon is your competition because they are all near your level and speedrunning too
>may even be someone in the dungeon to sabotage and waste time while his speed leveler friend is out questing
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>>582087348
Speedrunning goes against the spirit of Forever... My journey will be long... With plenty of stops for camping and fishing...
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>>582087802
i mean, they've already talked about adding new classes at blizzcon. new classes seem like more of a when not if.
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>>582074992
Fuck off, retard.
The new zones don't look like retail, the new zones fit seamlessly into the WoW classic world.
This guy actually put the time in to making things as they were and it shows.

Shame that the same cannot be said for the creature designers and item designers. THOSE are retail looking in art style, but the environments most certainly aren't.
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>>582087585
Very rapist coded post anon.
How many other game companies publicly shit on the tastes of the people who made them big?
Now that they've finally swallowed their pride and are making efforts to win those people back, the toilet audience is trying their absolute best to break out of their designated safespace shithole to come ruin it all over again.
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>>582087852
well youre supposed to nuke them with spells coming from your STAFF and
only use it as a stick, in a bind AKA when someone is in melee range trying to slice you up.
Wands simply belong in girly princess games not WoW.
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>>582088041
HOLY CRAP ANON YOU LOOK AMASING. Is that a selfie of you? Holy CUUUUUTE
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>>582087959
>>582088041
Retail minus
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>>582087232
>normal crafted rare in classic
10x tsuchinoko skin, 4x gems, 2 hides, 10 leather
>normal crafted rare in forever
16 light leather, 2 light hides
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>>582087348
All of the record times that low are just people in era who were boosted by mages.
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>Speedrunners are beating Mario 64 in 6 minutes

How am I meant to enjoy Mario 64 NOW?!
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>>582087716
Instead of mythic+ they seem to just be making more dungeons and more raids. Usually we get like 1 raid per tier but forever seems to be planning multiple? So I guess you’ll just clear both or something, I don’t know. Mythic+ is just a shittier version of progressive raid tiers, made for crybabies who never made it to endgame raids so they could feel like they were doing the relevant content instead of farming the midlvl raid tier. Like imagine you’re doing BWL instead of naxx, that’s basically what mythic+ was. But it’s secret now, the player doesn’t need to feel ashamed. He’s doing naxx too, just with a lower number. It’s all like psychological shit for insecure casuals to keep them believing they’re doing a game mode.
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>>582087959
why do all of the new zones look great and like something directly from old blizzard, but the new models and armor look like retail dogshit?
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>>582088041
The skelf zone looks gay, but they were already gay so no-one is surprised there.
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Any reason when I try to log into my account I get this error? No I didnt pick a stupid name to get banned
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>>582088168
Are those vulpera?
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>>582087707
The wand is literally a sign of the wizard's kingship over the eldritch, it is a scepter in all but name.
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>>582088290
simple, the world design team is classic autists and the rest are retail faggots dragging their feet into their new job working on Forever
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>>582087682
Yeah but that 400 copper needs to be used up to actually level BS/Engi. If you turn them into crates you suffer and have to farm more. And right now crate prices are insane + the drop rate is piss poor. I got all my recipes, but it took me literally 2 days of fighting off other faggots in caves to get my tin, which was only able to happen thanks to hyperspawns. I only ever managed to loot 1 crate myself.

And now I've even found out the chest/legs (not the level 22 and level 25 ones) recipes are random dungeon drops from like SFK.

If this were live, instead of doing all that bullshit, I would have already been level 30.
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>>582078701
they better do it. i would pay money to see all wannabe tryhards be forced to fish for 2000 hours by their semi-hc guild so they can parse blue
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>>582088261
>Mythic+ is just a shittier version of progressive raid tiers, made for crybabies who never made it to endgame raids so they could feel like they were doing the relevant content instead of farming the midlvl raid tier
if you're not doing your mandatory +10s/15s you're getting kicked from any raiding guild
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>>582088016
See you in 4 years lmao
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who's going to play classic if forever is the nu-classic?
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Do I have to level my fishing skills to fish in higher level areas, so I should increase it as much as I can, or can I just do a couple fishies whenever I feel like it?
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>>582088210
You can just download their addon thing and copy their strategy. Wow speedruns aren’t even close to perfect tho, not like Mario 64. They’re also mostly glitchless, altho there’s some cool glitches that speedrunners get to use like we can dismount from a flying mount, or can teleport over mountains and shit.
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I will be making a male night elf druid because women cannot be druids, they lack the ability to obtain enlightenment. This is objectively the best race and class combination available in WoW Forever currently.
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>>582088429
Too shit a pc to turn the fog on? lmao
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>>582088526
People who want to relive the old game without the changes and additions. They're going to keep releasing Classic fresh servers.
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>>582088568
>misogynist is an autist role-player

imagine my shock
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>>582088116
>boo hoo my fantasy story about wizards and knights took a different direction than I expected by a bunch of weird liberals in the 2010s and this is now my entire personality
>this is, basically, like, RAPE
Holy shit give it a fucking rest
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>>582081980
kek, this shit really is just retail minus
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>>582087585
>>582086705
>>582086956
You lost, we won. It's our game.
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oh no, someone is skipping the game!
how is that my problem?
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PSA: People should not choose which class/race they want to play based on perceived power level. WoW FOREVER implies balance updates over time.
I see a lot of people deciding what to play or not to play based on how good or bad a given racial is, how well it combos with X class, or on how class X is looking in the beta. I think those people are setting themselves up for disappointment.
This is not classic wow, class and race balance will not be frozen in time from launch. You should play what you want to play, not chase a meta that is subject to change in a few months.
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>>582088697
you wont have my cute ass in the general and trust me im a hecking cute and valid poster
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>>582074221
>Convienience is the death of the journey
I'm thinking based. At first I thought it was just a retarded wall of text, but nope. Pretty solid stuff.
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>>582088526
Eternal browns who need world buffs and warriors to carry them in raids.
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>>582088685
Your game is Classic, Andy, which is not Forever. Yes changes. What's so hard to understand about that?

It's OUR game, nigger.
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>>582088768
i'll survive
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>>582088568
based
>>582088648
cringe
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>>582088660
It has almost NOTHING to do with the story, that is a tiny part of the rape.
90% of the problem is the mechanics and design philosophy. Theres still retarded cock swallowers like you begging to have their flying mounts in forever.
The only reason you could personally be so offended about these facts is if you are an actual shil, or a mazed rat.
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>>582088323
The night elf zone looks gay too. They are elves.
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>>582088662
In what way?
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>>582088880
>>582088648

samefag
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>>582088568
While I do agree with you I still play a female because male night elves look stupid, especially when they become furries
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>>582088887
Not retail btw re-using retail assets constantly
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>don't want to play on pvp because i don't want my time wasted
>game feels like a massive downgrade without the sense of danger in the overworld
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I am looking to make this general my Forever home. I really hope noone here is a transphobe or a maga cultist
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>>582082716
There was a healer drought to an extent in classic already. A game where paladins, priests, shamans were mainly good as healers. What's going to happen when you give all of those good tank and/or dps specs?
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>>582088749
Warrior will probably always be top dps. Let’s be real here, if they didn’t nuke the class by now it’s just not going to be nuked. Im probably not going to play warrior because I don’t like to pve that much. But yeah if you want to pve and you’re believing you’ll get to play any other class you’re probably in for some disappointment. You’ll be getting passed on for warriors.
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>>582088887
>"Every change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game and sooner or later that debt will be paid."
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>>582088820
Tap, tap, tap
>>582074221
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>>582089058
>if they didn’t nuke the class by now it’s just not going to be nuked
they did nuke warrior rage generation.
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>>582088887
right soul
left soulless
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>>582089062
Hes right
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Are the private server cucks still seething in these threads?
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>>582088887
The only problem here is the graphical fidelity.
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tauren balance druid (healing dungeons) or tauren hunter. I hate chicken form but love druid in no form btw
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>>582085812
GO BACK TO RETOILET
WE ONLY NEED 1 BUTTON
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>>582089067
So it's not classic or retail? I.e. what I've been saying, NIGGER?
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>>582088525
what do you think is stopping them from adding classes?
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Wish the game was on Steam so I could see my playtime go up
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>>582088887
It's time to stop pretending that the "so retro!" graphics are superior, unc
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>>582089105
It’s still rank 1 dps, it’s literally doing 30% more damage than rogue. They clearly have no intention of changing up the warrior meta. I think thats a huge mistake, we’ve all played enough warrior already. But to be fair it’s like the perfect class for the job because it can do exactly nothing else.
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>>582085993
what about harpoon. Legion hunter was actually based and I got like 2400 in arena with it just perma slowing niggers down
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>>582089219
Lots of Andy seethe because of CHANGES
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>>582089290
You could add it as a non-Steam game.
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>>582089267
Dude they have literally added every possible class already. There isn’t new classes. Ascension tried to make new classes, what it ended up being was mixing two classes we already had together. Because classic wow already did everything, if there was another class it would’ve been in classic. They didn’t just arbitrarily say let’s have 7 classes, that’s literally all the possible themes.
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>>582074490
GG EZ
sometimes i flex a 'cep at them then do a 360 and just walk away
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>>582075354
Why can't you just play the beta, it's $15 cheaper than these shitty guides.
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>>582089372
>odin
Final Fantasy fag detected.
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>>582089473
The only glasses I enjoyed were death knight and monk. But explicitly tank monk. Stagger is such a good tank mechanic I feel like it should be baseline
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>>582089372
Superior elvish tongue
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>>582089267
The fact it would take money and time lmao.
They nuked the sod meme specs for a reason tranon.
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>>582089248
NOOOOOO WE NEED FOREVER TO HAVE 8 ABILITY ROTATIONS MINIMUM HOW WILL IT BE FUN IF I'M NOT PRESSING SOMETHING EVERY NANOSECONNNNNND
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hunter
dead

any wand leveling
dead

warrior rage regen
dead


lmao
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>>582089473
where's the necromancer class?
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>>582075354
>leveling guide when they haven't even been able to level to 60 yet or had time to test which routes are best
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>>582089578
This but unironically
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>>582075108
>Dragonflying is awesome and I want it(nerfed a bit so like 3 energy and minimal regen as it was at dflight launch) in forever wow, but i understand that it absolutely should not be the default mode of travel in Forever.
It won't be in Forever at all. Stay on retail if you want to play retail.
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>>582089473
the only avenue would be the enhancement evoker thing from retail, purely support specs. if forever moves away from homogenization, it could work
Lots of people would jump at the opportunity to play a low pressure, low mechanical intensity, chill class that offers tons of buffs and support
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>>582087635
blizzard fire this man!
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>>582089312
Lmao this dude fell for AI images.
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>>582089671
Retail is right there, unironically
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>>582088887
Nothing wrong with the one on the right. Not too choppy, not too HD. Gets a pass.
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This shit is not Classic or Classic Plus. This shit is not retail, but with the megaservers I think it's way better. You can't do proper GvG in C+ or Retail but you can do it here.
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>>582089750
Nah, it is too HD. If it was up to me, I'd just take Zeliek's charger, cut off some bits and recolor it to have the forsaken accents.
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>>582089673
>It won't be in Forever at all. Stay on retail if you want to play retail.
Era chud, stay out of forever forever
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>>582089802
>Half the guild is phased to another phase
Hahaha
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Hes right
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>>582089510
Did Wow just copy Odin from Ff? No dignity.
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>>582088887
i don't know why they refuse to add sheen or shine to any new assets. everything has a matte finish
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>>582089989
>reddit
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>>582089868
Thanks man, now I'm even more glad that it's not up to you, snowflake.
Try and get your gatekeeping heads out of your busted sphincters for a moment.
One is a datamined image, the other is a screenshot from the game. And even then, the UD horse looks alright.
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Engineering should have a toy that sends you straight up really high and equips a glider so you can glide about one zones length. Not usable in combat, 10s cast time and 30min cd
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>>582089989
They are to scale with classic towns though, I take it this Redditor has never been to Stromgarde?
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>>582089989
theramore
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>>582089372
are you horde?
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>>582085792
No furry races allowed in Forever. High Elves, Ogres or Goblins only.
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>>582089989
Wow is that another absolutely dogshit take from reddit? oh my science that's so novel!
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>>582089535
Evasion tanks are shit game design. Theres a reason classic doesn’t have evasion tanks, yet retail added two of them.
>>582089645
Doesn’t work. You can’t have necromancy in MMORPGs. Play some arpgs and you’ll see why blizzard hates necromancer. Diablo 2, summoner is pathetic compared to the other builds. So even in ascension, they tried necromancer but it ended up being surprisingly “special attack” button. Hunter is basically necro, having like exactly ONE pet. Retail necromancer was done with demo warlock, and it wasn’t very interesting to play against millions of minions. It’s just spam without real content basically. Or it fucks with enemy ai and pathing too much. Lots of reasons why you can’t make necromancer a thing.
>>582089674
That’s not a thing either. Thats like alchemists in ragnorok online or something. They basically put that larping shit into the mage class with portals and food conjuring or warlock summons. It’s just not really mmo content, dps support is a very bad archetype for several reasons. Classic knew about bards, bards had already existed in other MMORPGs. They did not put bards into classic because it’s not a fun way to play the game.
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>>582090190
Yes.
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>>582089989
Who fucking cares?
There are keeps like that all over
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>>582090016
I TOO AM WORTHY OOOODEEEENN!!1!1!
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>>582090195
Furbolgs aren't a furry race, they're a beastfolk race, know the difference.
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>>582089989
>make a giant fucking badass castle
>literal onions wojack redditor doesn't like it
Of course. he should play retail
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Average forever player is an e-girl catmom.
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>>582089989
>0 likes 99 comments
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>>582090368
cheesed to meet you
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>>582089983
That's literally not how it works, people in the same guild has the priority in that layer. How the fuck do you think that asshole Asmonjew managed to get 10k people in one layer? I think they need to nerf it because he was just picking off people and Horde couldn't amount a proper defense. He still lost because the guards are just too high level for lvl 20s but with lvl 60s it's not going to be pretty.
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>>582089738
So is classic, unironically
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>ask group where to find Q for dungeon
>no anser
>ask if anyone can share
>no answer
>do dungeon
>2 of them have Qs
Why is forever like this? This shit doesn’t happen in classic
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Poor guy...
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>>582090227
Retail dodge/evasion tanks are nowhere as evasive as a default bear in pre cata lol.
Tank design is shit until mop/wod, btw.
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>>582090368
why is it always priests?
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>>582090427
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>>582090431
I've been in 5 man parties and still phased out into different layers
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>>582088976
>male night elves look stupid, especially when they become furries
wat? both sexes use the same models for bear/cat/moonkin
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>>582090368
Based I will take her as my breadwinner wife.
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>>582090450
Yeah and I am not complaining about the changes they made, but I also don't want them to make classes play with retail designs. Which is what you are advocating for. You should go back.
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>>582090368
>sexelf priest healslut
I welcome players like her
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>>582090494
You actually had less choice in later iterations of tank design. It’s deceptive, it presented you with more tools. They added wave control and movement mechanics but this ultimately just got added into a rotation without any thoughts. Classic tanking actually makes you think about what you’re doing.
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>>582089989
>IS THAT A CHANGE?
>IN >MY< CLASSIC+???
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>>582090368
>>582090520
>>582090604
>They put black elves from retail into classic
It's over
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>>582090558
I mean the idea that a guy turns into a bear, cat or this moonkin thingie is kinda gay imo
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>>582090457
Can you share quests with players?
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>>582089989
that looks like the borean tundra alliance hub

just a castle thats bigger than sw keep for no reason.
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Praying for rppvp or else the pvp realms are 100% doa with streamer fags
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forever is only popular because retail players are giving it a try, if you remove the retail players all you have left is the same morons that played classic and it means forever will be dead in 2 months
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>>582090520
>class that's based on helping and healing, even the dps spec brings utility to the group by providing healing and mana regen
Of course women play it.
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>>582089989
the new towns and zones are like the one thing they actually nailed.
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>>582090368
Surely that's a man
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>>582090692
Unironically way better than the blue ones and I'm gonna make a gyaru elf like this
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>>582090765
>because retail players are giving it a try
Only a matter of time before they realize how cucked they were all along
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>>582090701
weird take. personally i like it because you can be both the man and the bear in the woods.
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>>582090606
>it's MY game!!
>they need to make it how I want it!
>if it's not how I personally want I, it's RAPE
>go away if you want something else this is MY game, ok?
Actual adult children
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Free beta keys when?
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What kind of bot is this
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>>582090457
You should have went to an RP server if you wanted to chat with people
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>>582090457
Yea you’re suppose to ask before you go there. And if they don’t say they’ll share then you leave the group. And you can go pick them up yourself, or try again. Relying on people to do anything is something hardcore ssf veterans learned NOT to do.
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>>582090660
Lol. You'll never be a top end raider.
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any cute sexy girlies who i can watch play forever? i have already watched my wife play it.

requirements:

no annoying streamer or whore personality

waifuable

thank you : )
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>>582090898
You are, yeah.
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Is Asmon playing on PvE or PvP server???
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>>582090987
>>582090987
>>582090987
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Classic+ is not Classic.
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>>582090368
or a big tiddied cosplayer girl from cgl
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>>582090959
you look cute, are you locked up 24/7 ?
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>>582090660
Lmao yeah this is the kinda retarded shit Andy's say
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That lake by Bandarion Keep is where Xalatath is right?
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>>582090765
Damn you guys are really mad that you lost lmao
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>>582090701
It's gay because originally the druids of the claw were buff as fuck and turning into a bear was basically them just ripping a bear's pelt off and wearing it, but they didn't give male night elf druids unique models.
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>>582091057
in 3 months forever will be dead
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>>582090551
Your entire party got phased, you did not get separated from them that was the point. The server is also AI based so it will try to find other players with high amount of pvp kills together. So you won't even need to arrange a GvG your guild could just make a raid then roam around where you want to farm and you will run across a different faction guild looking for a fight.

They also have property rollbacks so people in Eu/Asia won't lag as much as if they made a character on a NA server. The server will even detect people of the same language and put them together.

Unlike GW or other shitty mmos this is megaservers done right.
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>>582090915
it's a macro he pasted wrong to toggle volumetric fog
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>>582089868
>is too HD
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>>582090880
Think of it like this. When there was a cute girl turning into a bear I would enjoy petting her. If it was some hairy guy turning into the bear instead it's just off-putting and disgusting.
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>>582090692
>dark skin sluts with light colored hair
Oh hell yes
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>>582075064
>not resto
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>>582089989
Kill all redditors.
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>>582089989
>the largest building in the new ally town is a chapel
based and christpilled
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Can't be arse to log on but this is the quickest lvling spec. For lower level dungeons you don't really need a resto build.
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>>582090692
>complaining about pure SEX
they should ban homo faggots like you from this site and wow
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>>582074403
>Tbcfag
>Redditor
Disgusting. What else? Vulpera main on retail?
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>>582074490
ggs man, glhf
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>>582090368
the girl is a blasian btw
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>>582075094
>mounts
>mogs
>cheeevos
These retards and the bloat of all the above has devalued all of their ill-gained goods anyway. Honestly mounts and mogs are fine (as long as there's no hyper aggressive FOMO bullshit and there's no mount bloat) but the achivements are cancer. That said if that's your identity you need a new one.
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>>582075338
Skyborne are such a slap in the face man.
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>>582075672
This is the way to play. Based.
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>>582090959
I hope powdur is going to play it.
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>>582090368
>>582093220
HAAH WAAW
dogs > fish > cats
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>>582082539
>Tartarus
I had a thought about making a Horde guild with this name because of Olympus. Not as a direct counter to Asmongold but I'd thought it be funny

>>582082907
Pray for the RP-PVP server drop on the forums. Alternatively go Horde and get PVP interactions out of it. Had a little fun defending UC when the roachking went to the dungeon with his army
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>>582090765
Retail is dead dude. Even if everyone from retail went back to it, forever would still be popping off just like classic did.
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Will they ban parsing in WoW forever? I want warcraft logs dead.



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