Worg Wednesday Edition>Useful Linkshttps://www.wowhead.com/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/https://warcraft.wiki.gg/https://bad-dragon.com/https://murlok.io/https://housing.wowdb.com/>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)>NA<GLOBOFOMO>>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>Timewalking: >>582016046
>>582116207love wowg anons!!!
White Male Human Paladin here to say I love worgen females so much
>20 hours ago
>>582116321I meant the few Vrykul, who also probably have the same issue the Dwarves and Gnomes do.
Vulpera when a worgen walks by.
Best day of the week.
Dance Studio status?
>>582116493damn how fucking big are wolvesmy friend owns a husky and that nigga is huge already
Worgen Paladins WILL be dropping in forever when the gilneas gates open
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>582117192you wouldn't last one day around my horny ass :skull emoji:
>>582117192What is your vulpera doing right now?
>>5821166813,5 ft or 100 cm. These things mauled neanderthals for sport.
>>582117402damn look at that monsterhe would rip the throats out of the w*rgen fags immediately
>>582117192Same
>>582117523wouldn't stop them from trying to molest it
Who should be the next races to get paladins?
>>582117786i think the 14 wolves tearing ur nutsack apart would probably stop a person idk tho just sayin
>>582117993Ethereals.
>all pink parses>except ulatekfuck ulatek Im not coming back until they nerf it more
>>582117993worgens
>>582118161No...
Excellent thread
>>582118315I wish there were two wolves inside me...
Worg wednesday
>>582118258bro its already joke of a fight with current ilvl
>>582118740niggas fucking coiled altar so hard and ulatek is no different desu and I only need the mythic legs from ulatek so it doesnt matter
>>582115738my guild killed it last weekreally not looking for a reclear this weekeverything on that fight is so fucking easy except the stupid interrupts
Blessed thread
>same two niggers samefagging about worgen females
>>582119117Would you prefer a male worgen given you musknosis anon
>>582119019It's good to see such a brave and noble paladin upholding the Light's virtues
My favorite day!
>>582117993Orcs. It'd cause the most seethe so they should do that.
/wowg/ is for the gays and furriesStraights and normoids fuck off to /wowfg/
>>582119019By the holy light!
>>582117993Gnomes. I'd like to see a light-blessed mechanostrider. Frankly I just wanna see a modern mechanostrider. Also Goblins with a gold-plated hot rod for a paladin mount
>>582119850they did it's why this thread is days old and dying retardyou'd think that might force introspection on the behavior of faggots but it never does
C****e
>>582119656Love this worg
Worg Wednesday!!!
>>582120169Trash dogs...
Average Forever dev interaction>WE'VE HEARD YOU, HERE'S THAT THING YOU STARTED ASKING FOR LAST WEEK, ENJOYAverage retail dev interaction>So what's amazing is that we have conversations about that thing you've been asking for for 5 years all the time. All the time. Everyone on the team would love to do it, and you can feel the passion in the air as our journey with our players on this conversation continues. Unfortunately, we can't announce anything today or make any promises, but we want you to know that we hear you, and that we're continuing to engage in constructive conversations about it all the time.
>>582120169
>>582120262Retail devs 15 years into their job seeing how long they can coast.
Retail gave us Jimothy and you accuse them of having no passion.They. Gave. Us. Jimothy.Fuck off with this disingenuous bullshit.
>Hearthstone Black Empire expansion>Double downs on Amitus.Yap yap yap.In Last Tiddy. She -VILL- be canon. And there's nothing you chuddies can do about it!
>>582120964>TITANS BAD expansion except the two female Titans will be on our sideDAS RITE
Really don't know what to make my gnome.Hunter with a mechanical pet would be nice if thre wasn't so many "nature themed" abilities, and Gnomes can't even be hunters in classic... I guess Warrior or Rogue. I don't wanna be mage or warlock those classes are not very technological...
>>582120964hs faggotry will never be canon
>>582121287Except for the Tortollan, multiple designs that originated from Hearthstone, Brann's butt buddies, Bob and Skycap'n Kragg
>>582121445
>>582121287HS literally invented tortollans>>582121189hunter doesn't fit imo, it's more of a rugged outdoorsman archetypegnomes only really work as rogues or magic classes. gnome warlock is a classic
>w*rgeniggers already got bored of the forever betasadwell it was so pleasant while it lastedplease god put those awful fucks in forever so i never have to see these morons again
>>582121619...and you are?
>forever is released and the thread is dead>furries could have used this to take over wowg>they're posting in wowfg anyway because that's where the attention is
>>582120964How can there be a titan of the holy light?
>>582121619I never had the beta. :3
>582121687doom
Worgen jaina
>>582121872There's a nature titan (Eonar) and a storm titan (Golganneth), so apparently titans can be adept in other magical forces in addition to their natural arcane affinity
>>582121189I use rogue and mog into this. I wish we had a tech class.
I really dislike black people...
Uhh I queued LFD for Altar of Fangs for the Vaults campaign quest and I'm the only level 90 here. I get that this can be down at lower level, but it looks like there is no Heroic queue anymore, and also there's no way to get the quest before level 90.
>>582122283use follower mode
>>582122220I do this but on my Priest. My Mage has a little Explorer's League outfit, too
>worg fags>friendly, cute, keep the thread alive>antifur fags>constantly crying, annoying, physically incapable of ignoring things they don't likeI know who I'm siding with.
>>582122220Oh that looks cool as fuck anon which weapons are those?
>>582122389Golden Clockwork Doomfist - Trading PostPrecision Attitude Adjuster - BFA Mechagon drop>>582122368I like the idea of a gnome priest just being a doctor.
>>582122357I don't know what that is or how that will help.
>>582122236You should find a very large group of them and tell them that, they'll respect you for it.
>be me >learning disc priest >having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept of a ramp healer (OG was my first MMO)>switch to holy >almost every button heals the entire group at once in some way This shit is like an easy bake healer
>>582122663holy is way more fun to play in my opinion but thats a hot take around these parts.
>>582122236What's this garbo from
>>582121896garbage
>>582121896This and worgenmane is what we should have gotten
>>582120964wowg isn't ready for Arator, Champion of Amitus.
>>582121189>>582122220>>582122368as long as we are posting gnomes, heres my garden gnome in his very small two story house built only using the entrance way
>>582123195lmao this nigga gnomed mecool hey arnold room
>>582122560>gnome priest just being a doctorisn't that what Gnome Priest NPCs basically are?
>>582123613it's over...
>>582122663holy is good once in a bloodmoonholy is way overtune and 99% getting hammered to the ground next seasonramping is literally knowing your team is getting raped in some N seconds and doing this so at t + N you can full blast healingbut desu raid healing is very weird since you cannot practice it outside raids
>>582123195Based
>>582123707not a fan of the plantigrade legs. but this is still sovl.
>>582123707One day they'll pander to us vulpera players
The elements tell me of a future... I see Elves from the sea... Elves from the mountains... Elves from space... Elves from volcanos not to be confused with Elves from mountains.. Elves from Elves... Elves from Humans.. Elves from Orcs.. Elves from Tauren.. Elves from Goblins.. It's all Elves Forever..
>Forever is for the trannys and faggotswowg coping yet again
>>582124467Look at that mid section
https://files.catbox.moe/1gl01u.png (fag shit)
>>582124919HUFF
>>582124919gee i wonder who slopped this
Midnight is pretty comfy if you don’t care about anything and just take in the world. Eversong and Zul’Aman are great.
>>582123707e
>>582125434They better do something good after the loot shit they did this season
>>582124919make dwarves pls
>>582125534Give me at least slightly more than that to go on and sure
>>582124919who are you... let's play together
>>582125434I can't stand eversong but Zul'aman is fantasticthe other zones are shite too.We needed an Undermined level patch to save Midnight
>>582125486You've gone too far!!!
>>582125607old man dwarf in that "draw me like one of your french girls" pose
wait did today's hotfix make unholy op as fuck again LMAO
>>582125774The thing is they buffed bf because they thought it was bad but it was the best possible build but we couldnt play it because of the bug so they giga buffed it then fixed it.
Here's your midnight zones saar, we have:>orange forest>brown forest>mushroom forest>purple rock>green vomit shithole island
>>582126067snout too thin, widen it by like 50%
>be unholy DK>they hotfix blightfall to actually work midway through reclear raid and don't post that they did so>sweep the parse rankings>seen others link m+ logs with 500k avg dpslollmao even
post characters, I'll do some PG rated slop
>>582122245
>>582126137I'm seeing all sort of people do 450k+ in high keys on logs and I got no clue how they're doing it. I'm not potting yet I guess but 300k is rare in my keys still
>>582125762https://files.catbox.moe/wxkkix.png
>>582122236She would be improved as a worg
>>582126136
>even Taliesin is moving to ForeverWhat the fuck is happening over in Retail?
>>582127145now don't make it retarded out of spite
>>582127205We just need a reset on retail. There's too much. I want hard dungeons/raids still but not as piss easy as classic/forever.
>>582123707furry betrayer, we vulpera are modern wow purists.
>>582126168
>>582126972BASED
>>582127663i like her
>>582127754:3
>>582123707classic will get body sliders.
obesity isn't hotchubby is ok
>>582127663nice fox
>>582128000Nice! Thank you!
>>582127663>>582128000
>>582126168i would but i dont want to be bullied on wowg
>>582128325why is this hot
>>582128325I wish I had this fursuit
>>582128340do it please, especially if it's not a common wowg race. I wanna collect them all
>>582126168still working on my mog but slop me up
>>582128607I feel like the gun doesnt match
WOW another unholy DK RAPES the damage meter what the fuck lmao
>>582128505
>>582128832never played huntard before so my selection is very slim
>>582128842Stop bitching trannoid they are getting nerfed
>>582128935>mfw an upgrade in vault
>>582128781now kiss.
>have no connection to mounts mogs cheevos >Just play WoW for the social interaction and RP/chase of gear every couple of months I will easily switch to WoW forever.
I'd take wow forever seriously if pandaren were there
>>582129145I want to impregnate a human
>>582129267I wish they were real...
>>582129145>have no connection to mounts mogs cheevos>use ultra rare fomo tabard
I didn't see someone already posted one with my character (for some reason) and now I look desperate and it's over and
>>582128607I hope thats your pet lol
>>582129438>ultra rareSilence child. Your betters played in better times.
>>582129765I accept your concession
>>582129868Mods this child clearly isn't over the age of 18.
>>582129756yes it isactually pretty sick
>>582129285this lizard is pretty
>>582126168PG only... you remind me of someone.
>>582128954I always appreciate a female taurenit had trouble with this one, I tried my best :(
>>582129954>JANNY SAVE ME!You have a connection trannoid
>>582130557you replied lol
>>582130717It's too late, now you're the raped
>>582129139Already did.
>>582130818I accept your concession
>>582128976
>>582129438lmao bodied that freak
>>582129285kino shot
Has anyone noticed some... uhh extra detail on the skyborne female crotches during character animation? i stg it looks like they gave them a cameltoe.
>>582131287>t. didn't grow up playing femtrollheh
>y-you're raped>whines about shitty tbc fomo tabardlook in the mirror
>>582131283how are you making these exactly, is this DLSS 5 or something?
>>582131283Neat, thanks Anon
>>582129453dont worry its just over for me
>>582131497GPT Astra with a long list of prompts to try and make it look less sloppy (it still leaks through though)
Now that the dust has settled, what do we think of the coiled isle?
>>582131785It's ok
>got ignored guess this is my que to uninstall
>>582129652
>>582131785better than purple zone #67
>>582129652>>582132072I'm glad they are adding the white version of this sword to kithix but it's fucking lfr you can't coin it...
>got my alt to 90 So uh I'm just straight up 5 bonus rolls behind with no catch-up since the rolls were tied to the weekly vault huh
>>582128914sorry I missed you anon
>>582132462Shouldn't have said the nword chuddy
>>582131854
>>582133006SAVED! Thank You! It looks very cool.
>>582132072hell yeah, thanks king
>join guild>they seem like cool people, have some fun doing some low level m+>next day they have another girl join the group >Im playing a holy pally but this girl insists I will be dps since she only plays holy priest and has done so since TBC>whatever, okay>we are going a fucking +3 ruby>she (i am not making this up) is dying on literally every fucking pack and to every boss mechanic>she dies around 8 times total>we then do some delves>she starts dying again around level 6 and is permanently dead after level 8>another girl joins the following night for m+>shes playing a devastation evoker and is going (AGAIN, not making this up) 2k dps at most while myself and the gleader/tank are in the 140ish range>I'm trying to turn over a new leaf so I laugh it off and am just joking around and being goofy about it>first girl (shitass holy priest) then starts whispering me during the week saying shes so stressed and is a single mom and bills to pay and oh woe woe woe>yet she has time to live on wow 18 hours a day??>again, laugh it off, sorry that happened / glad for you style responses >"yeah my bf never helps and man 45 dollars would help me so much">again, just reply with a damn that's crazy type of response>last night we do a level 10 delve>she literally is dead the whole time>quit the guild and pulled my shit out this morning I do not understand how I can get a character from 230 to 298 in one 5h play session but these "people" cant even do a level 6 delve. I'm so tired.
>>582133331>gentlemen I regret to inform you>women
>>582133331There is legitimately nothing worse than being a straight man and having to deal with women. No wonder lesbian relationships always turn violent.
>>582134001It's a fucking shame since the guild leader's wife was actually decent and quite hot but the gleader himself was an absolute pushover who paid for gear runs for both himself and her, the other girls were just so unspeakably bad at the game. I cannot put into words how frustrating it is to see someone die over four times to the same mechanic and still not "get it".And then they start whispering you because you showed the slightest bit of competence in a fucking video game and was just a decent human being for 3 days. Is this how women operate now? I thought they just caused a gravity well that sucked in orbiters, I've never seen a woman move so fast to sink their claws into someone like this before.
>final balance patch >blizz randomly decides to buff devourer and unholy last second back into the meta>bear rapidly rising to the top as blood having trouble surviving title keys>resto sham still broken>specs like BM ret ww feral are all A tier again >only difference is you can run arcane mage/ele with holy pally instead nowLMFAOOOOOO LAUGHING MY FICKING ASS OFFFFFFFF WOWIE
>>582135004you have to excuse them anon, there is like 3 people still working on Retail
>>582135004Good
>>582132462yea you missed a socket too which is probably worse because you'll be flooded with bonus rolls by end of season anyway
In my frustration I have deleted all my characters and made a cute gnome mage on moon guard to be my last and final retail character that I will also recreate on wowf RP realm.What am I in for?Also, pigtails are a given, but what color for her hair? She has green eyes. Im thinking red, pink, or black?
I hope you quit posting forever too
>>582134418
>>582135370
>>582135370>In my frustration I have deleted all my charactersI'll never understand people like this. Friend of mine deleted his battlenet account in "protest" for the hong kong shit. Hundreds of dollars went into that account.Needless to say he reinstalled and had to start over a couple months later after everyone forgot about the drama.
>>582134447One token woman is fine.Two causes friction if one isn't immediately subservient.Three is a crowd and schisms will form instantly since their entire social structure appears to hinge on the most asinine things. Anything above four is unplayable. I have only been in one guild that has had a matriarchal setup and the tension was palpable. Having a decent masculine "radio voice" activated something in their brains and since i was a pretty decent tank it caused huge friction.>one girl, overweight and constantly complaining about her health, not only messaged me on discord but sent a pic of her nasty pepperoni tipped saggy boobs unprompted>another demanded that since we were on WrA at the time that during guild events she be the one to introduce me properly and that I couldn't rp until then (????)I left after a month. They all played hunters and paladins anyways with the odd "not a dk" alt thrown in.Pic semi related.
>>582135759It's not like I cant restore them one day at a time and secondly I didnt make / pay for a new account its still the same one lol
>>582136226That's not the point. Wtf does deleting all your characters accomplish
>>582136026I ERP and don't have a single one of these am I okay?
>>582135465NeatI like how he seems to have tucked his beard in his pants like propa dorf
>>582136298Helps me focus up. If the option isnt there then I cant keep alt hopping. Forced blinders.
>>582136330lmao I didn't notice that, sorryAlthough you can't really have that being whipped around while you do your shaman business
im hoping forever forces them to change their approach to storytellingi am not getting my hopes up though
>>582136714I will play WoWF up to level 60, participate in a few raids, and then see what they're going to do for horizontal progression.The storytelling has to carry the game rather than gear and treadmill mechanics. I seriously doubt the team can make something narratively compelling for 2+ years without fiddling with the gear levels or level cap.Okay, I got my epic spell sword and off hand, the last two pieces i "needed". The mobs will "forever" have the same health as they do now, so what can blizz possibly offer that will keep me playing 5ever now? Okay. Cool. There's a new level 60 troll dungeon and storyline?Okay?So?There's a trinket that's a side grade in terms of gear and narratively you're done in 2h. ????>????????Now fucking what?That's my issue.
>>582137369I hope there's more rep grinds a little like the Frostsaber rep.I just want comfy things to do with friends so I can casually flirt back and forth
>>582137369They want to keep people busy farming the raid items with random affixes and chase items plus the new items will have the same ilvl but the tier bonuses will be stronger
>>582137621That seems like such a weak fucking mechanism for keeping people playing. How will that not inevitably lead to the typical weekly raid logging?Yeah, at first you're going to have a lot of targets to hit. You'll be doing a lot of rep farming, dungeon running, and likely having a blast.>then you get your first bis (or close to it) piece>then another>then anotherSoon enough you'll have close to your full raiding set minus 1 to 3 pieces and so there's little incentive to keep playing other than once or twice a week during raid times. That's my gripe. Inevitably you WILL get to a point where no amount of extra horizontally relavant gear and story telling will keep you occupied.It just feels like a doomed equation from the start. I have serious doubts that the team who just stuffed different abilities on different classes can come up with a fantasy opera capable of keeping the average player's attention past that "raid log" point. Why should I care there's a new troll raid when I'm already level 60 and only need a helmet piece that the raid doesn't even drop as an example
>>582138268Well that's kinda what they want because despite what they said forever will be a seasonal game and they want jumping between retail new seasons and forever new seasons
>>582138268me play retail because me love number go bigger
>>582133331Did you not watch blizzcon? Why you still playing this shit? Oh wait, you must be a furry...
>>582138508me stay in denialme not coping
>>582138595I just don't know why it matters when Retail patches last like 3 weeks. People get AOTC and their m+ cheeves and then dipWhats the difference?
>>582138461Gross.If that's the format then I'll hit 60, get to the point where I'll be insta invited on my mage, then drop it forever (pun not intended).Doesn't seem to be for me. I am pessimistically and begrudgingly going to give them one last chance to do classic somewhat properly but I'm actively looking for an excuse to not play past getting soft BIS since I cannot visualize Blizz coming up with proper horizontal progression systems that feel rewarding.
>>582138268im a giga mazerat and all of this seems super fun to me man idkhaving a nice chill version of wow to level and explore with intermittent updates seems great, you're just being negative
>>582138461It won't be a seasonal game like classic if they keep adding dungeons/raids plus new race and classes, that would extend it's lifespan greatly, but there's nothing wrong with resetting the game and letting people do it again saying different is a retoilet ideology that drove the franchise away from it's roots as an mmorpg and completely fucked the lore to death and drove retail into the ground to the point they were adding gay centaurs pride parades, wheelchairs and censoring pixel art
you guys do realize leveling and exploring is something you do for like a week or two and then you're done forever right
>>582138748It is the format and it was confirmed with the content map they posted for both retail and forever.
>>582138727In retail, whether we like it or not, there are infinite systems in place as well as there usually always having something to do. We meme mogs mounts and cheevos but theres 20+ years of stuff to do and, let's be real, the classes are indeed more fun to play in retail whereas in classic you play less of a class and more of a walking utility vessel.As a mage in retail I can do a lot more than just sheep, frost bolt, and portal. In classic I am expected to sheep the blue square, wand to not gain threat, and frost bolt during burn phases.Whoop de fucking doo.
>>582138957anon it takes like 200 hours
>>582139146on what fucking planet
>>582139146When og classic launched i was level 45 on a tauren warrior after like 18h of /played and I estimate i would have been level 60 in under 40h what the FUCK are you talking about?
>>582139116>In classic I am expected to sheep the blue square, wand to not gain threat, and frost bolt during burn phases.God I hope Forever is like this.I miss hard CC being a requirement so fucking much you have no idea.
>imagine enjoying Forever>but I don't enjoy Forever>yeah but just imagine you do, a lot of people do.>but I don't
>>582139189>>582139314bullshit, the record is 36 hours done by a speed runner. A regular ass person is going to take at least double that. Especially without dungeon runs and mage aoe leveling.https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/zeegers-sets-new-speedrun-world-record-for-leveling-1-60-in-wow-classic-real-316363
i SO wanna muzzle-fuck a worgenimagine how good the side view of her maw would look
>>582139360During the Blizzcon panels they explained that basically all aoe will do full damage to the first 4 enemies hit and then after that all other enemies take less damage and ignore more threat.Basically, a tank cant pull half the instance and hold aggro, the dps cant just aoe nuke things down, and since mob health + theoretical damage damage numbers will be higher than healer output during big pulls the healer cant just lmao heal the group through it.They seem to be designing dungeons now around the idea that anything with 4 mobs or less you can just pull, albeit some will require CC, and anything above that will require multiple CC abilities or some sort of tactic.
I need the fucking spec that always pumps the hardest and never dies with 100% mobility
>>582139714NTA but on the buccaneers server we had a level 60 orc warrior ding at around 70 hours of play time.
>>582139116Frost Mage will at least have Ice Lance/Fingers now.I think it'll at least be a 3 button class. Ice Mage in retail is like an 8 button class it's not that much of a change lol
>>582139785Beast Mastery Hunter has no movement restrictions whatsoever and their feign death means they never have to death run. They can use a spirit beast to heal themselves too.Mage is also not really movement locked any more and can also pump it up.
>>582139946>Ice Mage in retail is like an 8 button classNah frost mage is brain dead they have bolt, lance, flurry and the cooldown ice beam, they are basically 3 buttons
give me a wowg alignment chart
>>582139926I'm sure there are going to be people speed running to 60 but the large minority will take a lot longer than that to get there.
>worgen wednesday>femworg Fridayidk man seems a little suspicious
>>582140072The claim was>it takes like 200 hoursAnd I assure you, even the slowest most disabled braindead 12 year old just killing green mobs 5 hours a day will get to level 60 before 200 hours.
>>582140205maleworg monday
>>582140223Not to mention he is not considering the new zones, quests, dungeons and the new gear.
>>582140223>goal posts movedsounds about right
>>582139473kek
>mazed rats can't think about anything but gear progression and ilvlsad
>>582139721https://files.catbox.moe/4anzv9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/uka918.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0lp2t3.png
>moron plays rpg instead of openworldslop(what he actually wants)more at 11
Fun fact.It takes exactly 16,341 mob kills to level 1 to 60 in vanilla wow assuming you are killing mobs the exact same level as you the entire time.It takes about 24s to kill a mob aggregate across all classes and the average is skewed due to higher health mobs. Obviously it does not take a level 6 Hunter 24s to kill a level 6 spider. But a level 56 paladin may take 24s to kill a level 56 spider. With this in mind and added into the formula, we can conclude that a player doing no quests, no discovery exp, no deaths, and killing ONLY same level mobs will average around 150 kills an hour.That means that grinding mobs 1 to 60 will take approximately 108h>108 /=/ 200Owned.
>>582141010o///o ...holy...
>>582140283
Where can I find good slutmog ideas?
>>582141345Look up Moon Guard slutmogs, theres quite a few using the new silvermoon tabard for side thigh.
>needs catgpt to win his arguments
>>582141010nigga that's straight up a dog
>>582141121>assuming you are killing mobs the exact same level as you the entire timewhere are you finding these magical mobs anon?you need to factor in travel time tooI'm sure with everything new added it'll take less than 200. I still don't think a majority will be sitting around on week 2 max level.
>>582138268it's basically a mega remix for retail downtime. they'll put out the content and if people are done that's okay because there's still retail with 2 decades of repeating quest and collecting shit to mindfuck them with. keeping people playing in the mobile addiction fomo and drip ways retail does doesn't matter when there's retail already. if people want to feel snowed in by a couple decades of systems retail is there. the whole horizontal idea is it's not made to keep the 1% busy endlessly as if that's some kind of requirement to make a good game rather than a lot of greedy exploitation. them making the most money possible by stretching everything to death shouldn't be your problem.
>>582141515I don't want a hyper generic one, I'd prefer one that uses mail armor and is somewhat recognisable as a Shaman in some way.
>>582141516>catgpt He can't even spell things properly.
>>582141528no way?!?!
>>582141528thats kinda racist against worgs
>>582141121lmao where the fuck you getting these numbersEven at 1 mob every 40 seconds which is extremely hard to do EVERY 40 seconds you're at 182 hours.
>doesn't deny it>minor spelling mistake
>>582141614The absolute highest estimate which includes travel time, copious amounts of breaks, subpar farming times, etc only increases it to around 136hThat's basically another whole day plus some change of literally doing nothing but traveling, shitting, erping, etc. You would have to actively stop playing while being logged in for over 2 days to even get close to 200h of /played while farming.
>>582141937it takes you 6 seconds to go from mob to mob and from region to region to find same-level mobs?you cannot get that average
>bought the skyborne epic pack bundle>no intention on playing forever>was mostly just going for the wc3 pack, but a little for the extra mogs, mounts and shit, why not>pets especially, diablo and zergling are cool>the pets are forever specific for some reason>Forever barring other account-bound cross-game promotional stuff gained over the years to preserve that good ol' original WoW integrity with less of that cosmetic bullshit, so people say>purchasable cross-game promotional stuff immediatelyI don't know if I should be more angry at my dumb fuck purchase for not reading the fine print first, or at Blizz for this bullshit that also just puts another retarded blip on all those hyped up selling points on Forevers purity.
>>582141258>She's even petting himB A S E D
>>582142218You can refund it
>>582141937damn anon, you've got it all figured outbtw to crack the top 20 speed runs you have to beat 97 hours.
>>582141528that makes it better thoughbeit
>>582142307I'm considering it, but it is ultimately still that I decided to spend a little extra for the extra shit in Retail.It's just not the package I thought it was... Debating with myself on whether this is a "Take the lesson, dipshit." situation.
>>582141774The official formula for WoW vanilla leveling via mob exp is:>XP = ((8 × CL) + Diff(CL)) × MXP(CL) × RF(CL), always rounded down to the nearest hundred.Testing by plebbitors and confirmed over leveling testing videos conclude:>The available [Classic] grinding data shows roughly 120–180 mobs/hour from testing characters at several levels, which corresponds to 20–30 seconds per mob.To be generous let's say it takes 27s instead of 24s, that increases the leveling speed from 109ish hours to 124ish.REGARDLESS, as I stated, even the most retarded backwoods inbred idiot will reach level 60 before 200 hours.Owned by math once again.
>>582142561You have like a 3 days to do it
>>582142613>owned by retarded mathoh no, how will I go onnigga, you ain't gonna see mobs every 27 seconds. You definitely are not gonna see mobs every 27 seconds at your level. I will admit that with the new dungeons and quests it'll probably be quicker than classic. It ain't gonna be 100 hours.
>>582142858Im proving that retarded faggot wrong who said it takes like 200 hours to level.It fucking doesn't.
>>582142930I'd say in Classic not Forever 200 is more likely for the average player than 100 dawg
>>582142561The safest purchase is the one you never have to make, anon.You have i think 72h to refund the product so just get your scheckles back and move on.
Straight Orc'in itand by "it" I mean
Hazzikostas said "I think we would like to offer something like that in The Last Titan, for people who want a more challenging, rewarding outdoor experience ... as well as more friction, and more purpose. A world where the outer world is devoid of threats or excitement is missing something. We would never say 'Go play Classic if you want that.' All versions of WoW should have that."NO FLYING MOUNTS CONFIRMEDflying sissies get the fuck outta my world tier bitches
>>582143131NO NOT MY HECKIN PEONIGGER! STOP THIS IS NOT HECKIN SOVLERINO
you faggot niggers need to be sliced open and have your guts fed to your parents for your existence, you are that vile
>>582143743extremely troon coded post
>>582143131nigga just wear the full set
>>582144598I don't have it yet, I gotta mix and max until then!
>>582116207
there isn't a single game better than wow to play while just chilling and listening to music
>>582126168what are you using to make these? model/lora name?
>AIsloppers and pedofurries raiding the thread again
Patiently waiting for Knursday.
This is my current slutmog, it's more than a decade and a half over at this point. I want to keep a similar theme but the chestpiece is in much lower resolution than the shoulder and it looks odd. Any suggestions?
>>582138268the achievement system heavily incentivizes leveling alts. i think blizz expects people to make new alts for new content
>>582145898It looks so bad broShould have boughted the trading post slutmog
>>582145898why not just hide the shoulders
>>582146137Well I figure it's been 15 years, I should get with the times and make a new outfit that's fully HD.
>>582146218the current holy grail of slutmogs is the chain bikini, start with that
>>582145898
>>582146334I think it suits a plate wearer better, I want something that suggests shamanistic elements.
>>582146473this will be wow grafix in 2016
>>582144458projecting much, resident furfaggot tranny of the dog dick dildo brigade general
>>582145023Important postTHIS is what /worg/ is about
>>582146596i'm not a tranny
>>582146596you are psychotic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grhjK8xH3H4Blizz added weather to a beta that's been out for 7 days but not to Retaillmao
>>582147589Kill retailReplace it with Forever with updated systems that can handle patches and expansions with no problem unlike current retail which breaks down with the smallest update
I keep losing the coin flip....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of_RiAuy2sQDEAD GAME
>>582145898Vanilla textures on HD models look dumb on its own. Now add the modern environment and it's completely out of the place.Either way, the shoulders don't match thematically at all, just hide them.Personally I wouldn't use anything older than WoD.
>>582148017can't wait for diabetes to ravage this bag of shit
>>582147589It's not like they recorded all these sounds and adjusted all the zones in those 7 days, they've been probably cooking that up for a long time, which is the reason it wasn't in the game when the beta opened.Still, makes me wonder what do the retail devs do.Retail additions be like>another solo event that gets you champ gear and crests>another tendie post slop
>>582148321>seething this hard that the shit game you like is universally mocked as shit and boringStay mad.
I don't even think Retail is a bad game, i just don't think you can coast by on legion for 10 years with no real innovation.
>>582148162There's just so few Shaman sets since WoD, that's the trouble I'm running into. The bulk of the good transmog stuff is cloth or else it's transmog ensemble pieces which are clearly not shamanistic.
I keep winning the coinflip
>>582149406[Nose For Trouble] Is Ready![Nose For Trouble] Is Ready![Nose For Trouble] Is Ready![Nose For Trouble] Is Ready!Fox placed Meerah's Jukebox
>>582149278I guess that depends on what do you imagine as "shamanistic".Because to me, what you posted doesn't feel shamanistic either desu.Pic related is my shammy.
>>582149616would be funny tho
>>582149641I like it, but I don't want a tribal or earthen shaman with fur and rags, I want a more elemental shaman with sharper fire or water.
>>582150092It's then just about scrolling through the pieces one by one and trying how they fit.Or wait for the next patch, when remove the armor type restrictions, so you can mog whatever.
>>582150057BEAST
>>582148390>What do the retail devs doMicromanage and snipe passive agressively at each other because its all fags, troons, and bulldykes nowThen when it's crunch time get some Indians to shit some code out while they complain how hard their jobs are
>>582150534Or inventing shit like pronouns, changing the sex button from established symbols to vague outlines.On one hand, Forever makes me feel glad like there's still normal people at blizzard, but then it sucks to know that retail will probably be the containment cell for the freaks and nothing cool will come out of it.And even if, it's not going to be earlier than after TLT, which is fucking 3 years.
Druids are gay
>>582149687put it on your action bars then ping it
>>582151470woa...
>>582151763I'm afraid of actually using my cd instead of ping it
>Classicfags say it's about the journey>Meanwhile they were all getting level boosted in dungeons and buying items with gold
>>582151978>go on xitter>already arguments like "nooo what is the point of adding all these items for low levels, nobody is going to run around the world collecting it, everybody will just rush to 60"
god i wish i were my dracthyr
>>582152115oh this launch is going to be good
thread looks fun during NA hoursno screaming retards about retail and many worgswish i wasn't EU normie with good sleeping schedule.
>>582152740Is that a huge vulp or just a small couch? Also the threads have been much better in general since forever beta dropped because all the most annoying motherfuckers are over in /wowfg/ begging for attention.
>>582151978and it’ll happen again
>>582152115i mean who the fuck is going to camp rares for items to run 5% faster in the barrens
Anyone want the RFA rewards and wanna share their link? Think I got an hour or two before my account is out of the week timeframe
>>582153818Someone probably.Not me, I see a rare, I kill the rare.I get the item or I don't get the item.I move on.Anyway, that specific argument I brought up was about collecting some books around the world.
>>582119301I would prefer you shove your pocket knife as deeply into your throat as possible.
>>582153818I have never once decided to look into rares of a zone to find out what they can drop.If they drop a mount or a cool cosmetic I might use, I'll find out about it months or years later.Actually farming rares for gear seems so redundant, you'll replace them so friggin' fast, even in Classic.
...............h-help....
Alliance bros.. What the fuck? Why are Baldur's Gate 3 actors playing DnD and choosing to play Horde? This can't be happening... We were supposed to be the influential faction. Why would those bastards choose to play the no shoes faction? The Horde doesn't deserve actors who starred in the first game to ever sweep the big five game award shows, let alone Baezel. Fuck, this can't be happening. Warcraft was supposed to be ours...
>>582156289No shoes supreme.The only (probably) natural inhabitants of this world that wear them are Goblins, and they at least have the excuse of operating heavy machinery.Imagine being such a devolved pussy that the world and its elements hurt your delicate little feetsies.
i made it into the top 300 world wide in moggies collected
>>582133331MMO women are legitimately mentally ill and should never be given passes for when they suck ass at the game because they never improve. Also you should have asked to see her naked for money then ghost her and never pay.
>>582156289Well least the Frog VA continues to be based
DK still feels like you're moving in wheelchair goddamn
>>582126168I'm an old Orc instead now
>no new post for more than 30 minutesnot like this, retai bros...
>>582159926Europe is going to work and the NA attention seekers are finding attention in other threads.Just how it be
>>582157360>poo DM>fat brown elf>based goblin but also brown>white man but picked a embarrassing race/class>rexxar lite nig>hot girl picked best racesad state of affairs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjWmsXOqugINVITE TO ASMONLAYER
>>582159926I'm busy, damn it!
>>582160696>StartedHe's had a cult since WoD alebithto
>>582160278you're right she is hot
>>582160874I'll do them all fuck it
>>582160696Literal God-king of this game.
>>582160874
>>582160874lmao
I have been doing all the Midnight content on my main but I am starting to feel like I want to play another class instead, aside from levelling how many of the quests and other grinds would I need to redo to swap mains?
>>582160874last one
Aw honey, it's not about you - these things can happen to anyone. You are good but that other game is just much better than you...
>>582161406If you finished the campaign(s) then it's just the gearing.Rest is account-wide.
>>582161445Naleidea Rivergleam if she real
>>582161406nothing at all world of alt craft mains don't exist i lvled a char from 1-90 full geared it in 3 days nothing to do deleted it your characters mean nothing gear means nothing only progression is transmog and a meaningless number people seem to be motivated by
>>582117402Wolf dogs get even bigger.No wonder that they can Brawl and reliably win againts awoooos
>>582146473Human men are so lucky...
With the boss encounter themes of newer raids being like 20+ mins of music I wonder if the sound team still intends on players keeping loop music off still
>>582161604The campaign up to Voidstorm for the Midnight achievement, or the full campaign including all the extra main campaign quests that take days?
>>582163865>The campaign up to Voidstorm for the Midnight achievementYeah that.You then have to talk to the elf slut chilling on the sofa in the SM inn to skip.As for the troll campaign, there's also a skip, but I'm not really sure at what point.
So... when are we getting weather effects?
>>582164970My assumption is all of the changes introduced in wow forever like first and last names, improved weather, and the new lighting is all coming after TLT
>>582164970
>>582164970Didn't we used to have them? What happened?
>>582164970sorry pal, you're getting another vibecoded patch with gamebreaking bugs and you'll like it
Over a decade ago Xelnath was fired for insulting the playerbase.Come modern day you've got the entire classic team making jabs and insulting both retail and it's playerbase indirectly as the front of their advertising.
>>582166852>Xelnath was fired for insulting the playerbaseqrd?
>>582167002He went on a tangent on the forums about his frustrations with the company at the time and got into a few back and forths with people because he was stiil heated at the time. Guy got it wrong, the official reasoning for being fired was airing the company dirty laundry which tbf. You check any forever dev's twitter, they seem to being the same.
>zoophile/furry subhumans take over wowg since normal people made the switch to wowfg>threads slow down to a crawl>the remaining wowg posters are zoophiles, pedophiles, some normie strays and jeets that generate ai slopgrim
>>582167331Bad attempt since all these degens you named are also in the forever general, because that's where they get all the attention.
>>582167331>>582167727>same pedofurries raiding other threads as wellSad.
>>582167331Cope. They all went to /wowfg/.
What else could Blizzard do to make Housing more fun?
A toast to worlo!
>>582169519Make Forever version.
>>582169519Why the fuck would I want to leave the populated central cities of my MMO, where I have decades of memories and can see all of my guildmates and cool mounts and transmogs and so on, and sit in an empty room in the middle of nowhere? The idea was doomed to fail.
>>582169519Bring back Garrison gold farming and then the other 99% of the community would engage with them. Currently they're used by and for Roleplayers, thus will become a dead feature down the line.
>>582169519I want my Half Hill Farm back.Do that, plus fishing pools for horticulture.
>>582169519I don't need housing and don't even use, i need garrison
there wi;oll not be another expandion
>>582170239not my problem
My goal for raid tonight is to bring my blue parses up to purple! I only have 2 left.
>I see the future...30 dollar blue elves...it must not come to passHe tried to save us
Alright, anyone care to explain why my thread is dead here?
>>582171796because furfaggot spammers like you destroyed italso worgen palas never ever
What if danuser knew
>>582169519just for start:fix the bugsget rid of the dye system and let us freely color stuff for a small fee of goldincrease the decor storage limitgive us basic dyeable shapes like a cube, sphere and pyramid and give us stone structural items without any wood parts in them
What is the most 1-1 canonical race / class combo to play in WOWF? I want to play something that translates into retail so I can have a full RP storyline for my character. For instance, WOWF cant have demon hunters but if that's my favorite class in retail what would be the closest skill set similarity to them so my character can "grow into" their retail version?
>>582172487Your son was retarded enough to get in the way instead of using his sword to block the slash, Stickney is retarded enough to write dumb shit like this
>>582173261Why wouldn't you just play something that's available in both? Canonically Dwarf Hunter is the main class/race.
Blizzard really needs to delete M+ from the game
>>582117993Vulpera, because of Sunwalker lore
>>582167002Xelnath was the lead Warlock class designer in WoW around the end of Cata / MoP time frame. He was responsible for bringing in mechanics like Burning Embers and also was the brain behind the legitimate Warlock tanking glyph Dark Apothesis which allowed Warlocks to properly Tank (they could queue into the RDF tool as the Tank role as well.)He was widely regarded as creating the most fun aspects of Warlocks which continue to this day. However, he had a disgusting habit of complaining on official forums about how the company operated, constantly spoke with prominent but non-affiliated high ranking Warlock players, was quick to criticize and outright insult players he disagreed with, and was generally too much of a loose cannon for Blizzard's tastes. This also shows it doesn't matter how good you are at something, you still need to play by arbitrary bullshit rules when it comes to the corporate world. It doesn't matter how right you are, if you're actively snapping at the hand that pays your bills you're gonna get put down eventually.
>>582173648>Blizzard really needs to delete M+ from the game>>>/wowfg/
>>582173261only thing that makes sense to me is a night elf shadow priest so you can have a through line of shadow to void into void elf into void elf dh
>>582169519I literally recoiled in disgust when I saw that when you buy an item for housing you don't henceforth have an infinite number of that item to use in your house. I'm rarely vocal when I play video games but when I unlocked a cool doodad I was excited to use it as a wall border only to realize i only had one singular placement of it.>"oh fuck this"Were my exact words. I havent touched or engaged with the system since then. Im not going to go buy 900g worth of something I've already earned.Fuck that shit.
What will be the /wowg/ Forever guild name?
>>582173802I don't care for your funserver
>>582173612I'll go with Gnome Mage, they seem to be one of the top 3 staples of OG wow
>gnome>girl+>mage>red hair>green eyes>pigtailsWhat are my chances in....that place?
>>582173982Mythic plus is a core part of the game and is not going anywhere, sorry!
Human PaladinDwarf HunterNight Elf DruidGnome MageOrc WarriorUndead RogueTauren Shaman No class sticks out to me as being iconicallly connected to Trolls
>>582174273Affliction Warlock is basically voodoo
>no high elf paladinI SLEEP
>>582174346Sorry bro, we've got to make up for the trans-normie Alliance playerbase by giving both factions the same blue elf race neither side wanted, and now WoW lore is forever tainted by them
>>582141843how old is that picture
>>582174273IIRC the devs stated that they basically just forgor to flip the toggle switch for Troll Warlocks. I still don't understand why people use the cinematic for canon class / race relationships. It wasn't until Cata that they started to let nelf women be druids and for males to be warriors / hunter-rangers. Troll Shamans with tikis, masks, and totems probably is the most on-brand class with melee survival hunter likely being the closest second on-brand thing for them. Human Hunters were also supposed to be a thing apparently.
>>582174436>blizz could have literally just added high elves as a playable race>already established lore>plenty of spots in the game to canonically have their starting zone>models, textures, rigging, etc already in the game (literally no "dev time" has to be given to them other than a few minor tweaks and adding a /dance)>they fit into alliance and horde mentalities just fine and instead of being shaman for horde they can be paladins since, again, that would make sense and pays the "not blood elf but blood elf" budgetInstead, they ass pulled fucking SKY ELVES of all things. They look goddamn awful. Even their SD models and animations are ripped directly from Blood Elf retail. Their shapeshift forms look both derpy and idiotic when standing next to something like an Orc Warrior. Their animations suck. They're uninspired. They offer the Alliance nothing new and they offer the fucking Horde a 3rd Shaman race (WHOOP DE FUCKING DOO). They cost 30 goddamn dollars to play, have the Goblin racial passive and a mage slow fall (really busting out the big brains for this one), and their lore is the most retarded I've read in a long time>yeah elves who are known for delving into the arcane and magical 180'd and flew up into da skye and bwecame blooooooo!Come the fuck on.I'm emote /spitting on each one i come across.
It's good the blood elves (white people) correct their behaviour towards the Amani trolls (black people) and act submissive and sympathetic towards their cannibalistic, torturing millenia old enemy. Very cool storyline.
>>582175074Blizz think its fucking hilarious that there's so many high elf peddling faggots, and they're going to do absolutely everything they can to repeatedly make new Elves with features, attributes and aspects of the High Elf, but not be High Elves. Despite plenty of shit at the players disposal to pretend they're that gay ass high elf they want so badly.You're a joke to them. And you're a fucking hilarious joke at that.
>>582175074Once Blizzard lost J. Allen Brack, that was it for them. He was the only man left that had the balls to tell these retards no to their inane ideas, as well as the only one who could reign in Metzen. I wouldn't be surprised if this is another one of the reasons that Samwise left.
>Blizzard made Skyborne the only race with dogshit racials so that no no one could accuse them of adding a pay to win feature to Forever
>>582175427>metaslaving in the easiest version of World of WarcraftWhat a miserable existence
>>582175427>they added an OP relic to their starter zone so even if you don't play shartborne, you want the expansion to access the zoneExpect more of this.
>Skyborne lore is that the Exodar crashing into Azeroth literally wiped them outDamn, I knew Velen was based, but not that based
CAW!
>be me>join a guild one year ago>the vibes are chill I join their raid team>ff to midnight>we get AOTC as a guild>season 2 starts >can barely get anyone to raid anymore >didn't even clear normal as a guild because people don't show up>WoW forever get announced >the guild discord is dead>the only people online now are a clique consisting of the GM and the officers who are all pushing M+ >not part of that clique so I feel like an outsider >thinking about leaving but feel some strange sense of loyalty to the guild What do I do
>>582176083If they don't include you, you leave
Demon Hunter is the most boring shit class ever
>>582176609I disagree
>>582175187By the looks of 12.1.5 it's more like the blood elves sacrifice Liadrin and in exchange the Amani become a subservient colony of Silvermoon because they've spent Midnight killing off every troll that doesn't want to be an elf's slave
>>582176179Issue is finding a new guild that I mesh with. Feels like looking for a new job
>>582176083Pug mythic + until you're higher io than them.Then when they start talking to you or trying to include you (they will) leave the guild and cut off all methods of contact.
since they made new old models in forever they need to port that to retail so we can toggle to old animations in retail
>>582126168It's slopperin' time
>>582177570They need to add a toggle to turn off all these shitty new graphics in Forever first
>>582172487>Be me, a carpenter>Hammering some nails into planks>My "son" decides he is now a tree rights activist>Jumps in front of my mallet and gets smashed for it like a retard>???>Get blamed by my equally retarded wife
cen we play neopets together insteadits goodmy cousin enge tells me
My head hurts from trying to decide a class for each race and assign each race/class an expansion, the actual gameplay is classes but i'm gonna end up with like 2 of everything for no reason at all and some expansions i'll be forced to play the same class or race, it sucks.So i'm just gonna make a human of every class and the non human classes like Evoker, Shaman and DH i'll just pretend they are humans anyway.
>be me, chef>making some dishes at my restaurant>a "food critic" decides he is now gordon ramsay>comes into the kitchen, gets boiling oil splashed on him>???>get blamed by the equally retarded head chef
>>582172487Turalyon should have raped his son.
if blizzard intends to slowly put retail on maintenance mode, i'm not gonna stick around. these past 2 weeks have been brutal for us retail players
Which expansions actually have different exclusive content for each faction?Just Classic/Starting zones of Cata and BFA?Because i'm checking the other expansions i was told have different horde and alliance stuff like WOTLK and Warlords but it's literally just NPC swaps.It's the exact same story but you put Sylvanas in place of Jaina.
This is an unpopular opinion but the tier sets should have different appearances based on your faction
Looking at the High Elf Warcraft wiki page is so funny. The amount of shit they have to plaster in the notable NPCs section like Sylvanas and Alleria, just so Vereesa doesn't look like the only notable rep the race has in wow. Then also has to throw in a bunch of Blood Elf organizations to further pad the the page.
>>582180052>Sylvanasdarkfallen>Alleriavoid elf>Vereesa blood elf
>>582180052Which of these characters were not high elf anon?Not because Alleria turns Void Elf (but still looks high elf because perish the thought WoW doesn't have an aryan bimbo) and Sylvanas turns undead (but turns back into a living high elf in BFA and Shadwolands cinematics) it stops them from having been High Elves.Do you think Arthas shouldn't be in the Paladin wiki despite having been a Paladin?Do you think Varian should be removed from the Warrior wiki because they are dead?
>>582180052Absolute state of High Elves.
>>582180495>>582180514I'm confused. Are we pro High Elf faggotry here or anti High Elf faggotry here?I'm leaning towards the latter cause Veeresa is the only notable thing that counts in wow as a High Elf.
>>582180781Any knife ear deserves the rope.
>>582180781So trolls, goblins and forsaken should be removed from the game because they don't really have a character that represents them? Vereesa being the main representative of High Elves doesn't stop them from being a group that's been prominent tons of expansions.You couldn't walk 5 seconds in outland without seeing a High Elf ranger, you couldn't walk 5 seconds in dalaran in WOTLK without seeing a high elf mage, etc.Might as well tell people who want Naga playable or Ogre playable "oh you have just 1 or 0 important characters so ummm maybe next time sweeaty!?". Tell Vulpera to leave the game btw they haven't been relevant not even in the expansion that introduced them
how about high humans
I'd rather have playable High Elves than another dogshit OC race made up out of thin air, and I say that as a diehard Horde fan who fucking hates the Alliance
I'd rather have no new races at all and have Blizzard merge existing allied races that are just palette swaps into their main racesNew races should be exciting and not something people just expect every single expansion
Isn't it odd how the people who push the faction war the most are always insecure sexless horde players?You don't see Alliance players be so rabid despite the Alliance being constantly spat on by the writers and developers, but Horde players despite being given everything they want, even Undead Paladins, they still cry and go "wahhh i hate the Alliance i'm so edgy!"What causes people from one side to be mentally unstable and people from the other side to be calm?
>>582181452You're a fucking retard. Kill yourself, dumbass.Probably don't even need to say that because you'll kill yourself from stupidity eventually anyway.Also, you're brown.
The elves and their faggot wells have caused irreparable damage to azeroth. Everytime one of those niggers gets their hands on some well water they make some shit that blows up in their faces or gets corrupted then we have to save the day. The well of eternity, the moonwells, the nightwell, the sunwell, the dark well, the light well, and however the fuck many other wells these retards made. They need to be stopped. Once and for all. All races should unite together to kill all elves. And we can kill the furry races too while we are at it.
>>582181628> t. Blood Elf playerIf i had to guess why Horde players are so mentally unstable and insecure and rabid, it's because they only picked Horde to be the bimbo pretty race since you're all porn addicts borderline transexuals.And since ACTUAL horde players bullied you blood elves like crazy, to desperately try to fit in in the horde you went full obnoxious with the faction pride "g-guys i swear my skinny female blood elf talking about getting a manicure totally fits the horde!".It all comes from a place of insecurity, which is a rampant theme in horde players.
>not a particularly great player >top 80 region yeah this patch is actually dead
>>582172487Has anyone else noticed the way that they talk about Alleria and Arator's relation to her in Midnight it's like the writers think she was always a void elf and Arator has void elf genes as a result. Keeping in mind that we know at least one person on the team thinks that Silvermoon was in the Horde during the Second War
problem classic fags?
>>582182028Midnight is a filler expansion
Reminder that NigElves are literally the J*ws of Azeroth>OY VEY REMEMBER THE 6 GORILLION NPCS THAT BURNED IN TELDRASSIL>IS THAT ANOTHA WORLD TREE? IT BELONGS TO US NOW, AND WE'LL KILL YOU FOR IT
>>582182058>Silvermoon was in the Horde during the Second WarThe modern writers lack media literacy and don't know shit about Warcraft lore. But honestly that's been the case even with Chris Metzen himself as main writer when they put Sylvanas and the Blood Elves in the Horde and didn't feel like adressing not even once that in the second war the orcs killed and burnt Quel'thalas and murdered Sylvanas little brother (and Arator's uncle)
Turns out the D&D Warcraft expansion is giving people Amani Trolls. Lmfao.
>>582182238>le media literacybeware the reddit alliance!!1!
>>582182164> Genocides a race for no reason at all other than being edgy> They built a new capital and still allow the Horde in fully after what they've done (while Silvermoon doesn't allow not even the Draenei who outright saved their race)No, night elves don't really seem like jews. However horde players are very jewish in their behavior of being privileged and pandered by the devs while pretending they are an opressed minority.
>>582182261Not surprising, Blizzard absolutely hates the Horde this xpack.
>the void elf troon is backjust kill yourself retard, you are playing a race expelled from stickney's asshole
Notice how Alliance players are all married successful men with children while Horde players are all rabid incels and transexuals playing as female blood elf?
>>582181452you know, there are some real life groups that acts exactly like that and ruin everything around them just like the horde, the parallels are so incredible it almost feels intentional
>Someone points out how much the High Elf page needed padding on the Warcraft wiki>Helf fag goes on a 25 minute crusade to defend the honour of Helves, Vereesa and the Alliance.Every time.
> High Elf wiki lists former high elf characters>> HAHA HELF FAGS COOOPING THEY ARE COPING HAHA!!! *ignores WC2, WC3 and all of wow lore*Why are Helf haters so insecure? Is it because they know if High Elves are added to the Alliance, the horde will lose 99% of population?
>>582181452the actual answer is because the Horde exists as a response to the Alliancethe Alliance is just the EK races (plus smelly elves) that would be allies anyway due to their proximitythe Horde is specifically a faction of nontraditional races that joined together so the Alliance wouldn’t be able to steamroll them individuallyput more simply the Horde exists to be anti-Alliance while the Alliance just exists
I just realized questing in Forever. When did Retail WoW just become a game where you jus sit there and some over sized Jaina/Thrall/elf Model does al the story and is pretty much the main charater and you just hear them talk and talk and talk. This is such a bad way of telling a story in retail WoW.
>>582183302> Faction is created to defend themselves against the evil Humans, Dwarves and Gnomes just chilling, mining, praying and learning magic> They proceed to commit every war crime, every invasion and every act of hostilityThis is like Antifa burning a hospital saying they exist just to defend the world from facists.
>>582183456>When did Retail WoW just become a game where you jus sit there and some over sized Jaina/Thrall/elf Model does al the storyWhen people got obsessed with Illidan in TBC and Arthas in WOTLK. The writers learned since then that players want to watch a mary sue like Thrall save the world while the protagonist is a little bitch watching from the corner how someone else is the actual hero of the story.
>>582183456It's been slowly building up to it over time, in the past sometimes you'd have a zone like that here and there but not the whole experience. It's really the last few expansions where every zone has become following around a main character while they mostly just whine about their feelings and you do all the work then they get all the credit.
>people are already soloing dungeon bosses in ForeverDoA
>>582183456when Warcraft switched from being faction-driven to character-driven.originally you’d have individual characters doing things, but they’d be doing it as a representative of their race/faction. the player character was a conduit through which the Alliance/Horde/Kirin Tor/whatever did things. nowadays it’s specifically the characters driving the plot, and we just exist to facilitate their story.
>>582180052alliance aligned factions/races never had any real lore it's just writers self-inserting
>>582183456>t. hasnt played wow since shadowlands and acts like his 6 year old experience is still current
>>582182058I guarantee you that literally no one on the dev team could tell you who Lady Vashj is. They might be able to identify her on, say, cover art of something but they wouldn't be able to tell you how she met Kael'thas. Speaking of Kael'thas, they also could not tell you who Garithos is AT ALL. The fact that Sylvanas can call Arthas a son of a bitch in the frozen throne expansion but garrosh cant say the same to her in Cata tells me all I need to know.Just look at the introduction of sky elves. A smiling small boobed lady with golden eyes smirking at the camera while the dwarf's bear rolls around in the grass. Reminder that its the same bear that gets bludgeoned by a tauren's totem and now its some teehee butt of some faggot's joke.There's a literal road of murdered draenei bones leading to the dark portal.There is ritualistic amputeeism with the shattered hand.There's both implied and actual rape in most half-breed backstories. There's body horror, soul torture, and null sensate hell (Ner'zhul etc)Trolls cannabilize, rape, torture, and mutilate themselves and their foes.Female elves have bigger penisis than males.On and on.The story of Stalvan in Duskwood has an old man wanting to creep on, and eventually murders (also implied rape) a barely blossomed girl and her family.But nope.Garrosh saying Bitch, which isnt even a swear these days, its akin to bastard, is just toooooo far.The sorceress in Wc3 blatantly flirts with the player, Uther can say piss, I'm absolutely certain during the worgen stuff in cata they say both "damn" and "hell". What the fuck are we doing. Not to mention the trading post is just wonky flashy rainbow colored bullshit these days I'm so sick of seeing Kul Tirans running around with gay flags, bare chests, and dildos strapped to their legs.
>>582183456They tried it out on a smaller scale in TBC, but WOTLK was pretty much when they became confident in when the faction leaders/major characters should be pushing events forward and not the players. Which was more or less around the same time the wow comic was coming out.Battle for Undercity was the first big one, then you had Tirion's stuff in Icecrown and the LK fight.Green Jesus is infamous in Cata, but he wasn't the only offender, Malfurion was sorta doing it as well at the time and so was Genn and Sylvanas.MoP you became basically the support for major characters come the patch stories, Lor'themar and Jaina for 5.1 and 5.2. Vol'jin and Varian in scenarios. Vol'jin and everyone for 5.3 and 5.4. Of course for the legendary quest you were always basically following Wrathion around and Anduin. Chen had a zone but you had an entire group of other characters as well.WoD then really leaned into it, you're now questing with Rexxar, Yrel, Maraad, fight with Thrall and Durotan! Watch Thrall vs Garrosh! Aid Khadgar! Which was a result of the Titan people coming back and they fully embraced that direction from Legion onwards.
>>582183615After the world soul saga retail really needs to get back to shit just kinda happening in the world and your character just happens to be there for it
>>582167331Truke
>>582184205>Just look at the introduction of sky elves. A smiling small boobed lady with golden eyes smirking at the camera while the dwarf's bear rolls around in the grass.SHUT THE FUCK UP!!SHUT UP!FOREVER IS A RETURN TO FORM!!! US FOREVERCHADS DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THE GAYS AND TRANS AND BLACKS FROM RETAIL!! THEY WON'T MAKE KAEL'THAS GAY IN FOREVER OK??
>>582184337They kinda tried it for Dragonflight and people didn't like delivering flowers to Centaur husbands.
>>582182084Everything since Shadowlands has felt like filler. They're terrified of including any big shake ups in the lore because of how badly the Jailer storyline was received
>>582183456It was somewhat present in the latter areas of TBC but really started in WOTLK.Arthas appeared no less than 2 times in each zone, in some cases 3 or more, and players reacted positively to that. They then fully saturated the story in ICC with all the big players with oversized models which to this day still looks weird.In Cata it became a mainstay. In Hyjal you're just watching the big ancients do their thing, Thrall complaining constantly, Cho'Gall showing up randomly to remind you who the baddie is.One guildee sent a screenshot in discord of her character next to Liadrin and Zul'whogivesafuck and she looked like she was gnome sized. I get in raids they want the NPCs to be a bit bigger for visual purposes but seeing them be 17ft tall in open world questing is dumb.
>>582184587Which is a shame because of SL has anything worth salvaging from it, it's the first one shit to finally inject some mystery back into the franchise after Legion decided to take it out back.All they had to do was find a way to frame it in a way people gave a shit about instead of seeing it and going>THEY'RE REPLACING THE TTIANS, MY CHILDHOOD.
>>582184587>They're terrified of including any big shake ups in the loreHow so?Didn't they make an entire half elf black underground race that wlil lead a holy crusade or something like that with that ugly black woman in every trailer and cinematic?
>>582184587The entire concept of shadowlands wasn't necessarily bad on paper just the execution was but I chalk up a lot that expansions shortcomings to being developed during Covid plus the blizzard lawsuit going on
I liked the Jailer... i liked the visuals of the Shadowlands and it being divided in sections (though Ardenweld should have been a snowy winter land to explain where DK frost magic comes from).Only thing i didn't like about Shadowlands was the tranny and Sylvanas forced weird redemption arc mixed with Anduin "i enjoyed being evil so uhh i'm gonna quit my job as a king, fuck responsabilities"
>>582184842People, especially Night Elf fans were looking for anything to blow up at after BFA let Sylvanas get away.Sex pest scandal and covid didn't help one bit, but people really didn't completely give up on the expansion until it all hit at once on top of Korthia and 9.1's story being ass. Especially the Night Elves fans seeing all the Elune shit happening and Tyande not getting to kill Sylvanas then and there as a further slight.
>>582184205Retail and Forever have different teams.
>>582185014the dk frost magic come from northrend not the sneedolands
>>582185142That's lame and DKs are not shaman so they shouldn't be able to use the "ice of northrend" for their frost magic.Plus it sets a bad precedent because blood and unholy are both explaind as realms from the shadowlands
>>582185127There is a forever team but it is too small and they have little to none dev knowledge and the retail team is factually in charge of everything like>the new graphics>the mega servers>the raid design>the art team for items and models
Allyfags just ignore they stole rightful Troll land using cowardly elven magic
>>582184842Doing an afterlife expansion in general is just a bad idea, it ruins any stakes. Why should I care that someone died if I know their soul is fine and just chilling in the Shadowlands? Hell, why care if ANYONE dies? Sargeras cleaving a planet in half loses a lot of heft knowing those peoples’ souls are fine and well.
>>582184587Blizzard confirming the existence of Avaloren and that it's controlled by an Arathi Empire is a pretty big addition to the lore
>be danuser >go see guardians of the galaxy and a few other capeshit movies>start thinking good storytelling is to have a convoluted plot line full of confusing, nonsensical, statements and to always have the big baddie talk like he knows everything but reveals nothing ever>yes>have baine sit on the floor for 2 years>perfect>give the thumbs up to having the big baddie not only be responsible for all the events happening currently, but also had a thumb in every plot line's pie since the war of the ancients>yes>little Timmy getting killed and is now a ghoul?>j'lor >oh, and the past lore doesn't jive with current stuff so let's just have it so frostmourne and the dreadlords are so retconned they literally cannot be explained properly>hmmm exquisite yes>also because of seeing capeshit the j'lor should also be searching for 7 infinity stones because that's good storytelling >marvelousImSoTiredIDon'tCare
>>582185296That isn't retail team? The retail team has legacy server guys that they pay a ton because they now if they move some rock in the barrens it crashes the server. the Forever engine stripped that shit out and steam lined everything so no more being held hostage by legacy server it guys from 2004.
>>582185490>That isn't retail team?People from the retail team tweeted about working and developing the servers during the blizzcon announcement. The forever shit is made on the retail client.
J'lor was always more Darkseid than Thanos albeitho.Down to the Eternal Ones and Titans essentially just being the New Gods as far as Sneedolands presented it.
>>582185334When did that happen?
>>582184205>they also could not tell you who Garithos is AT ALL.Well that's not true, they just brought him back entirely to shit on him in that new WC3 campaign, as well as basically mock anyone that liked him.Same sort of bullshit they do with Arthas everytime they consider pulling him back out, we're not allowed to like Hitler, they're gonna do everything they can to middle finger his fans.As if the entire point of a villain type character is someone to hate flies over their head or something.
>retoilets still seething about foreverI can't wait to see the maintenance mode chimpout after tlt
>>582185296The forever team has a few veteran people from 2004. However, Metzen appears to be overseeing things in the sense he sits in an office making 2mil an hour while people bring him ideas. He made a single (read: one) tangible contribution to Forever by drawing the sky elf map which looks like it could fit on a fucking napkin.Everything else is just him okaying or saying no to things that are suggested. The other "vets" are people who did things like class balancing and some back end server stuff that's now allowing for mega realms.
>>582185871Metzen can't overseer nothing when it comes to development because he is a writer, he probably did that shitty sky elf concept map and blocked helfs and thats it.
>>582185818TLT has to be giga goodWOTLK Remix will keep the bank account full next year but after that they're going to really need everything pumped into TLT otherwise people are gonna walk like crazy and I dont mean to Forever which people will be burnt out on by then. November to February will be the most successful time for Forever and after that its patch logging.
>>582185818Maintenance mode or end of service would be funny as fuck.
My dream for The Last Titan is to have human shaman human druid human dh and human evokerthank you goodbye.
>>582185064Honestly, retail's story is in a weird spot. After TLT, what's left? If you were in the writers' room, what would you even write about?People want faction conflict back, but I don't see how you do that without it feeling hamfisted. And even if you could, it clashes with the gameplay. Nobody sane is asking to remove cross-faction grouping and guilds for the sake of story.Then there's the writing itself. I get that WoW is a product that has to appeal to as many people as possible, but the "Marvel writing" criticism is fair, and it needs to change.Personally, I think retail would massively benefit from an FFXIV ARR-style hard reset. But retail is Blizzard's cash cow (hence the heavy monetization), so I doubt they'd ever take that risk.
>>582169519Posable character models per furniture
>>582185871He is writing a complete new lore book for Warcraft Forever. Trust the plan.
>>582186575I doubt his dnd meme project is related to forever.
>>582186429What the devs can do is simple, but they won't do it because they "simply don't have the recourses for it."The Horde and Alliance sides are both burned out on having to do shit with the other. Especially the Horde side. The bad blood from BFA has never been addressed or sorted and instead of trying to address and sort that they force everyone to run around after the same handful of Alliance characters who the devs insist are really "neutral."What WoW and it's Playerbase really needs right now is the writers to step back and actually focus on both factions seperetly. Set up a Horde team and an Alliance team. Let them experience their own storylines for an expansion, fix and solve a lot of much needed issues each side is having then go back to the shared narrative two expansions down the line.But god forbid doing anything smart.
>>582186130I doubt TLT is gonna be anything other than a watered down version of the current trajectorymidnight has less content than TWWTWW had less content than dragonflightdragonflight added a bunch of new shit to the game or major reworks, some good systems - strong baseline for nu-WoW after the SL failureTWW added hero specs and delves, and had a lot of mid-patch new content. undermine claps coiled isle so incredibly hard for a X.1 patch.Midnight added... preys? housing that nobody cares about after the honeymoon period ended. a lorebreaking DH spec. controversial transmog overhaul. nothing truly new to carry the game forwardit's a downward trajectory for a while now
you ever see other blizzard games? diablo 4 shows more skin than retail WoW, WoW forever brought back camel toes. There is something within Retail WoW that hates the female form.
>>582186429It depends on what sorts of things the devs can and cant do under their yoke.IIWKFAD I would immediately put retail into a frozen 15$ sub mode for 6 months. I'd then sic everyone in the office onto the following>one team will only focus on fixing the spaghetti code, nothing else, dismantle the ship of theseus, rebuild it properly, get rid of the jank >the next team is responsible for graphical updates, animation updates, rigging improvements, weather updates, texture updates, etc>the third team is responsible for gameplay elements regarding pvp and pve, this means adjusting battlegrounds, updating maps, adding maps + objectives, removing arena (yes) to replace it with a gladiators xrealm sanctumIf all 3 teams finish their projects ahead of schedule, they will then all work together on reorienting class abilities, talents, etc TOGETHER, not just one guy keeping monk afloat.People who stay subbed will get one month free in Azeroth Reborn, some token pets / appearances, and a title. The game needs to PAUSE and let people catch up. Its been in a spring state since at least late WOD
>>582186750>Especially the Horde side. The bad blood from BFA has never been addressedBitch, your Horde genocided an entire alliance race, burnt their capital and got away with everything by having all the expensive cinematics be about Horde character crying or warring. "Especially from horde side" my ass when you get all the content, cinematics, races you want, etc.
>>582187030>hates the female form
>>582187196you're kinda late to the shitposting party anon, this guy left blizzard years ago
>>582187179If that's true, why didn't the Horde get the Amani this expansion despite it being the perfect time to do it?
>>582186750This isn't a bad idea>>582186869Speaking of gameplay systems, whatever happened to the support role? Why is Aug still the ONLY support spec? It feels like the devs build something new, then drop it the moment it's not trendy or gets "hard."
>>582187261How many horde players, the faction that's 90% female blood elves in slutmogs and we are currently in a blood elf paladin themed expansion in a blood elf city, genuinely want and will play the ugly green trolls that when revealed you all complained "they look like orcs"?
>>582187523Oh and then do remind me, who on the Horde asked for Stone Dwarves and Fat Night Elves?
>>582187481Support shit is fundamentally broken and players hated it so they are done with it, a blizzard dev talked about it during a tww interview with nagura once.
>>582187630the alliance cucks are always here bitching about allied races but they are too fucking stupid to understand the horde never wanted their shitty tranny races like nelf and dwarf loleven when they got helf they are still bitching about horde getting shit nobody want
>>582187030theres literally a quest line about a female warrior who lost her wife in forever, and thats just from the content available, theres probably way more in the 1-20 range too
>>582187481support role was a mistake to introduce. it completely breaks game balance by either being mandatory or useless, with almost no inbetweenthey've slowly transitioned aug to be a quasi-DPS spec over time instead
>>582187630>who on the Horde asked for Stone DwarvesNobody, both factions got them, Alliance didn't ask for yet another dwarf race, but do you know what's the result of this? Yet ANOTHER shaman race for the Horde, while your faction has more class combinations than Alliance, and stealing the entire Dwarf body model and dwarf animations from the alliance, being yet another body model the horde takes.
You know this guy's a Paladin main because like any professional brown all he can do is move goal-posts.
>>582187481Unironically?Most damage meters cant accurately portray how much value a support role is doing for the group.IIRC details used to show a kind of muted brown bar connected to people's dps to show how much the Aug was doing for them but people still just dont appreciate how much they're giving players and instead people see them somewhere between the tank and healer while not understanding they're juicing the warlock who was doing 180k before hand and now is doing 230kI still think enhancement shaman should be a totem support melee class that, once powered up, uses a windfury move that takes the combined group's damage, for the past several seconds, multiplies it, and let's them do giga damage for like 4s before they drop back down again.
We also gotta stop making every new allied race neutral, Haranir should've been horde only and earthen alliance only
>>582187848> Horde player is a dishonest little bitchWhat a surprise.Horde asks for brown orcs? Horde gets brown orcs.Horde asks for nightborne? They get Nightborne in the most spiteful way to the Alliance there can be.Horde asks for Zandalari chad trolls who can be PALADINS? They get Zandalari.Horde asks for ENTIRE BRAND NEW RACE Vulpera? They get Vulpera.What did the Alliance get? Fat humans nobody wanted, dwarf with red hair nobody wanted, fucking BLUEBERRY VOID ELVES instead of High Elves the Alliance has been asking for since 2004, and fucking Diaper Gnomes.You're whining over these "neutral allied races" nobody wanted when BFA alone gave horde all you losers wanted, let alone allowed you to genocide an entire race of the Alliance and get away with it because "killing people made you sad :("
>>582188098>discount trolls and bootleg dwarfs shouldve been exclusive to the faction that has them already
>parse giga high on mythic vashnik yesterday after the unholy hotfix>rank 1>sit on it for 7 hours with no change>think Im safe>look at leaderboard today>some other fucker overtook me by 1% dps just before lockin time on WCL
Does your opinion of me get better or worse when I say I play a gnome mage but at least I'm not a diapergnome mage?
>>582188251Correct
>>582188332Worse, mechamage is based.
>>582188185ironic you have the nerve to call other people dishonest when you pretend no one asked for nigger dwarf and helf skin and eyes for velf and even pretend anyone asked for vulpera and called them a new race when they are a reskinned goblin lmao guess I shouldnt expect much from the reddit space tranny
>>582186429Do an “exploring a new land” trilogy of expacs where we go to Avaloren with unexpected issues bringing back the faction war.>expac 1 is the factions sending expeditions to Avaloren>the expeditions get blown off course by the ring of storms splitting Azeroth in half and land in hostile land>we make allies with the natives (new races for each faction), establish a foothold, and fight with the other faction over limited resources>expac 2 introduces us to the Arathi Empire proper and whatever their main enemy in Avaloren is>we discover their enemy is actually good/the Arathis are actually bad>story has us fight off the Arathis and save this new faction>expac 3 we take the fight to the Arathi Empire directly and kill their emperor or whateverThere you go Blizz, next 6 years of WoW planned out, I take check.
uh oh allytroon meltie
>But what about the Horde attack on the Night Elves?!
>>582188283>parsetrannies
>>582188470>helf skin and eyes for velfAdded in Shadowlands when Blizzard saw the Alliance population dropping like crazy. And do you know what Ion said the previous expansion?> If you want a fair skin light haired elf the horde is waiting for youTelling players if they want a race from the alliance they have to "switch to the horde", and then having to go back on all he said and give the alliance that fair skin light hair option to try and retain the playerbase was the most pathetic Blizzard moment ever and the fact that it came from a hardcore horde shill developer is all the more funny.
You know what's the original problem with allied races? The alliance victim complex, back when bfa was announced ion said they would only release races that make sense for the factions but then they saw the incredible alliance bitching during the bfa release and they had to do everything equal or face their autism forever (they are still bitching about cata).
>>582188742Autistic Alliance fans have always been holding not only wow back, but the entire setting back. We've had Blood Elves regress from an at the time interesting take on what Elves could be with Warcraft's own spin on it, to the most generic Elves you can find in fantasy cause Alliance fans couldn't stop bitching about High Elves for 20 years.World of Warcraft is a game where the red faction and the game itself is being held hostage by the blue faction and the blue faction will never be satisfied no matter how stagnant they make everything with their demands.
imagine if we had kept this art style
Unironically give the alliance high elves so the shut the fuck up about it already. Also when vulpera were added the sethrak should've been their alliance equivalent instead of diaper gnomes. Only because this piece of art makes way more sense if it's Vulpera vs Sethrak
>>582189070alliance should get a vulpera equivalent
>>582189012This art style is dated imo
>>582188984What's worse is I want to play horde because they just have more unique and cooler aesthetics but I'm forced to play alliance since Moon Guard is the only realm that actually has social traffic.Go onto ANY other server and literally no one is talking in trade or /lfg. All you get is the occasional snotty remark on illidan and silence everywhere else.
>>582189070That was always funny because the alliance players never knew about the deep horde links with the sethrak they just thought they were enemies of the vulpera and wanted them.
>>582189070Wasn't the whole questline in Vol'Dun learning that the Sethrak have been misled and that population still loyal to Sethraliss are friends of the Vulpera?
>>582189148obvi, it's still the coolest looking art in all of wow too
>>582189250Yeah, the Sethrak pretty much join an alliance with Zandalar thanks to the events of Vol'dun. The Alliance was never getting snakes, especially if Horde was getting Vulpera over Snakes.
>>582189148That's fucking bullshit bro the forever loading screens are the literal definition of souless and they should go back to the og loading screens
>>582189201Is WrA that dead? It used to be popping during SL
>>582189201>Moon Guard tranny>reddit spacing>probably plays nelf druid or velf somethingretard
Horde players have so much transexual behavior it's crazy. Pandered to by the devs non stop but still trying to pretend they are an opressed minority lmao.
>>582189395I don't like the forever loading screens either, they look unfinished.
>>582189250>>582189368Yes the horde saved the sethrak from the faithless and I remember there are many sethraks visiting zulzadar when you do the scenario to unlock zandalar, they are pretty much part of the zandalari faction.
>>582189201Because trade is for trading items and services you fucking attention slut, nobody wants to hear about your day.
Have you refunded yet Horde sissies?
>Play the boring faction>Get only boring allied race options>Bitch and moan the fun faction is getting more interesting and fun allied race options>All future races now have to be neutral and boring because you cried over Diaper Gnomes instead of asking the devs to do more customization for diaper gnomes instead of Void ElvesAlliance fans deserve the guillotine tbqh
>>582189406I play a cute female gnome mage
Dracthyr, Worgen and Vulpera should form a 3rd breakaway faction.
>>582189406>reddit spacingOH MY FUCKINGGODHE HE..........HE FORMATTED HIS FUCKING POST TO BE EASY TO READ?!??!?!?!?!IM...COUGH...IM DYING...READING NATURALLY IS....ITS....*dies*That's you.That's what you sound like.This is what you probably look like when you see formatting of any kind.
>>582190062Despite all the hate the vulpera really fit the horde and lorewise they are a great addition to the horde in the same way belfs filled the magic gap and goblins the tech gap like nelfs will never fit the alliance but they are still there.
I feel like pandaren need a model/texture update
If Horde is the no shoes monster faction that's meant only to be bad guys and should only have monster races.Then why do Alliance fans always insist they're owed Sethrak, a monster race?
>>582190241Nelfs seem like they're their own sub faction within the alliance
> Tee hee being trans is FUN! cis people are so boring! us trans women with our female blood elves in slut mogs are FUN!!!Funhaving sisters we won! We're having so much fun in the horde being women <3
>>582190223yikes, not that guy bro but this is a certified cringe post
>>582190339Pretty much but being stripped from all their identity and flavor to "fit" into the human faction fucking sucked.
Mechagnomes are the best allied race and I won't be convinced otherwise.
most of the alliance hate the kultirans because the women model is pure shit but they are probably the most unique allied race in the game
>>582190586>the most unique allied race in the gameBitch they are just fat humans, there's nothing unique about them.
>>582190267Because it would be a funny reversal of the Nightborne situation.Just have Nisha or whatever her name is show up and drop a few slurs and it's perfect.
Why don't we have naga? Considering the absolute state of dracthyr and transmog blizz has already shown they're perfectly fine with a race just not being able to wear armor
>>582190678Same reason we don't have Ogres. Because modern blizzard firmly believes a race is only as good as their faction leader options.Naga might've worked when Vashj still existed and didn't belong to Maldraxxus, but right now Naga have no notable character outside of Azshara and they'd never make Azshara a good girl because she's their token evil sexy elf lady but fish.
my best friend niggerkiller11 is gone because of wowg and the stupid racism here. i hate you
>>582190223Nope. You faggots do it make your posts as big as possible so that you get more attention.
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>>582190586they use modified pandaren rig, but it is modified enough that its hard to tell. most obvious if you compare the run cycles side by side.
>>582191418I think the death animation is the biggest giveaway
why do they make "different" races instead of more customization options inside of the same race?
>>582191769Because High Elf fans won't be happy until the race tag says High Elf.
They call the Horde "No shoes" because I make sure to pull every blood elf girl's boots right off so I can lick between their toes
> HIGH ELVES ARE THE REASON I CAN'T GET A GIRLFRIEND :(
Horde players are so mentally ill that when a character shilled for them non stop like Jaina and then betrayed her, her turning against the horde was "Bad character writing" and "SHE MUST BE A DREADLORD" because god forbid a character wants to hold accountable the horde for anything.Not that it mattered since Horde losers won in the end and she went back to loving the horde in the very expansion in which she was supposed to be a "warbringer".
The only bad things about Mists of Pandaria were valor points to upgrade gear and titan/warforging
>>582192468>alliance cucked out>this is the horde's fault
>>582192141>>582192468Buddy you've been going on for two hours, we get it. You're Vereesa's biggest stan. You cry yourself to sleep on your bed made of copies of Day of the Dragon. You make sure to recite the ancient grudges about how the Blood Elves and Horde personally wronged you. Go make sure to log in and read your TRP every day to make sure it's as perfect clone of Vereesa Windrunner's backstory that it can be. But you can't force any of us to like her and her shitty race as much as you do.
>>582192748I don't even know who Vereesa is. I just don't like trannies and Horde players are all trannies. Die already.
>>582192748lmao bodied that freak
>>582189596Plot twist. The faithless join the Alliance as they have been kicked out of their homeland and the faith havers don't give a fuck about the horde and are focused on rebuilding so they don't join the horde. The faithless become the faithful and begin to worship the light (yes they can be paladins too). Its a wholesome story about redemption and forgiveness that fits perfectly with the Alliance. Sorry horde, you shouldn't have tried genociding them.
>>582192748>implying some mentally ill mg faggot will stop his meltielol, bro plays on a rp realm yet he barely knows any lore
Why are Horde players so weird and mentally unstable?
IT'S PUSH WEEK
>>582193290Twenty years of victim complex because the Alliance had a decent leveling experience in vanilla.
>downvote clicked so he's also a redditorjust rope already
>>582190241Nelfs fill the nature-loving-hippie/mysterious-brooders gap in the alliance. Also sex
>>582193290All of the people involved in this screencap including the one who took it should die
>>582193349No it's not. Keys have been omega dead for 3 weeks now. Who knew making raid drops competitive would kill M+? /wowg/ told me gear is irrelevant and people would do it for fun. Now I can't even get crest capped because there are no groups or applicants
>>582193349That's next week. after reset, I'll be able to get hero of the mists to start working on my alts.
WHATCHA PUSHIN BUD
>>582193949sound like a you problem, I see a lot of groups right now and it's work hours.
Horde trannies bodied.
>>582193949Why do M+ players think they're entitled to the absolute best gear for running objectively easier content? M+ players today are the PvP players of old that were constantly whining about having to raid to get items like shadowmourne
>>582194258>Coffindodgers
>>582194258he's not taking the ostracism addon well I see
why are the alliancetrannies melting? what happened now?
>>582194258People really got mad about some silly nicknames
>>582194258He's already sick of Forever and is just trying to get banned so he can keep his third world fanbase happy by saying it's not his fault he stopped playing.
>>582189801>crash out
>>582194862I don't think you can get banned for twitter posting
>>582194983If people kick up enough of a stink yes, especially when it's his community actively doing shit that's getting banned in game already.
>2 guilds are from the faggot faction in top 15
>>582195180And 13 are from the trans faction!
Panda sisters.. Our Ancestors aren't Elves???
>>582195287rp sissyboy
>>582195351Kek ancestral panderan are orangutans
>>582193349i can't push work is killing me
Horde is the Lindsay Clancy faction.
I stopped playing WoW just after the blizzcon, nothing hyped me, everything destroyed my will to play Retail. I hate WoWforever, they have ruined Warcraft, forever.
>>582196339ok? just bee urself anon
>>582194258Hordelets on suicide watch. Reminder you play the comic villain faction with 3rd worlder plot armour. Couldn’t be me.
Help me pick a class to main, I've narrowed it down to hunter and monk.>monk can do all 3 roles>but melee is borderline torture>collecting exotic pets is fun>but mail armor looks like shit>both are mobile>both have good survivability>hunter is always valuable in maze+ because of lust, WW is very tuning dependent>both are good in pvp I think?
>>582196339I was a little bummed out at first. But ultimately being able to play the class/race I want in retail is enough to keep me. Also kind of excited for Talebound.
>>582197550>but mail armor looks like shitIsn't the transmog system expanding to all armor types soon?
>>582197550well I think you answer your own question. If you're a dps pure, just go hunter.
>>582197707Yeah that's true.
>>582197550>>collecting exotic pets is funits really not
Should I main Kul Tiran or Tauren druid?
>>582196339yeah it really feels like there's an unavoidable sense of second child syndrome with retail atm.
*BRAAAAAP*
>>582198479
>>582198479Dysgenic little things.
Do you guys think they'll keep the game in the DF era of game design post-TLT or do you think they'll shake things up a ton
>>582198479dropping a fat horde
>>582199003it'll be 8 dungeons, 4 zones, 1 raid until EoS
>>582199179in the retoilet
holy fuck i forgot that i need to grind pvp gear if i want to play some pvp
>>582199209yeah but thats been a thing since like legion, im more talking about class design and gear progression specific to Dragonflight and onward
>>582122368>feet are the same width as the headBlizztards really love to shit on foot fetishists, huh.
>>582199548think it's fastest to afk crates and goon or whatever while you wait
>>582199805i goon strictly in bed and before sleep sorry
A full ton of Tauren warrior came down like a felled tree, and the gnome beneath his hoof simply ceased as a shape. The ribcage folded inward with a sound like wet kindling snapping, sternum bursting through leather armor in a spray of red mist. Bone splintered and punched outward through skin from the inside, and what had been a chest cavity was now a crater a shallow bowl of pulverized gristle where a person had stood half a breath before.The second gnome made it three steps.The hoof swung, caught him mid-stride, and his spine gave way with a crack that echoed off the canyon walls. He crumpled into the churned earth, and the second stomp found him there femurs folding like green branches, sinew stretching white then shredding in strings, muscle sheared from bone in long red ribbons that hung from the Tauren's fetlock as he lifted his hoof to survey the mess.The Tauren snorted, low and bored. Two smears of gristle and shattered porcelain-white fragments, sinking slowly into the mud.He shifted his weight and moved on, the grass closing behind him as though nothing had ever been there at all.
I can't stop playing forever.Somebody save me!
>>582200586I wish people played Tauren like the hulking brutes they could be
>>582200669>wanting to play blueball elves
>>582200762why, what do you get out of it?
>>582200669based paid beta test GOD
>>582201013SexMostly just an underappreciated character type, same with Orcs, so few actually play them as the sort of 'trope orc' that it's now sort of wrapped back around to being neat again
Nelf paladins just make no fucking sense because if Teldrassil made them lose their faith in Elune after 10k years of worship then realistically they would abandon the Light they've only known of for like 20 years or w/e the first time some shit happens even quicker.
All the zones people hate the most in retail like korthia and ulatek vaults (dangerous mobs, grindy, no flying) are literally classicslop.
>>582200586Honestly I wish I had this level of creative writing skill without spending like 30min on it
>>582202467no those zones mainly suck because they are claustrophobic and annoying to navigate
>>582202467I think some people refuse to accept that retail and classic are made for two completely different audiences
It's out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdI5z-f3etk
>>582202561just set time limits and write silly shit. you'll get better the more you practice
Best class, spec, and game mode for farming pvp saddles?I have a list of mounts I want.
>>582200403>"While we want to bring the war back to Warcraft, we also want to make sure we foster a safe and loving community that can welcome all sorts of new players."
It's kind of amazing how little effort blizzard put into Cataclysm stormwind and even had kept it destroyed for years while orgrimmar was super revamped and improved.
>>582203406Literally everyone hates Cata Orgrimmar and how the ugly ass metal tower ruined the most iconic and chill spot in the city
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m49-jvGPCkAOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANO VIDEOS FOR RETOILET
>>582200403>>582203830It's depressing how casual they sound compared to Paul Kubit, Maria Hamilton, and Ion Hazzikostas launching into PR corpospeak so casually interviews need to repeat questions sometimes to ask for a relevant answer
>>582203649not really you're coping iron orgrimmar looks way better than the original
>>582196339touch grass
Classic devs>fat jolly white nerdsRetail devs>spindly gay men and fat grandmasIs there any hope left?
>>582200669>I can't stop playing forever. Somebody save me!
>>582200669
*toilet flushing sounds*
Still can't fucking believe that i'm enjoying ret paladin
>bully keeps pissing on my tit's when im not looking>suddenly genius idea>run to school excitedly that day (ignore the other school bullies laughing at my fat jiggling ass)>"hey hecter. wan't to piss on my tit's today?">"yes">he goes to piss on them>they already been pissed on by me>"WHAT!!! I CANT PISS HERE!!!">he's running around frantically looking for somewhere else to piss>suggest he pisses down the stairs>he goes headfirst down the stairs>head exploded in blood>I do an evil laugh and say "now your worst nightmare is my tit's!"i just laugh at em. one chance. bullies get one chance.
>>582205526wtf dude, this isnt some retoilet
daily reminder all the people shitting on retail will be the first ones in queue when TLT launches including faggot streamers
>>582205939just because i use my toilet daily doesn't mean im not gonna shit in it, feel
wowf sucks
>>582208156I cant believe that this actually happened
>>582208156*burps and farts and lightly sharts his pants*WE'RE GOING HOME HAMMERS UP
>>582208156>"WoW... Different!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpA4ldGoHRQ
>>582205939>classic will kill retail! we are going home!!its a bland piece of shit and abandoned in a month>tbc will kill retail! its vanilla but better in every wayits a bland piece of shit and abandoned in a month>wrath will kill retail! game peaked here!!its a bland piece of shit and abandoned in a month>sod will kill retail! its the classic+ dreamits a bland piece of shit and abandoned in a month>anni will kill retailits a bland piece of shit and abandoned in a month>cata wil-nevermind no one thought that lmao>mop will kill retail! best expansion ever!!!1!its a bland piece of shit and abandoned in a month>forever will kill retailwhat happens next will shock you
>>582208654and they'll act like it's blizzard's fault for not implementing [extremely specific and minor detail that doesn't matter]
Just kiled a hordie lmaooo
>>582208654nobody seems to understand that classic-era endgames can’t retain a sustainable playerbasethere’s a reason retail’s endgame has a shitload of different progression methods and constant gratification, that’s what modern players need
>>582208654classic players dont like to admit that classic is played far less than retail and will die off as soon as people start reaching 60 (half the playerbase wont even get that far before quitting as they do in every other version of classic because no sane person wants to spend 2 weeks leveling)
>>582209183youre suppose to quit after a while bro its a seasonal game
>>582208654I cant wait till forever starts to die and i can grill the faggots in that general to death
it's too easy to level in retail man it's actually really bad for the gameif you're a new wow player and you play retail it's actually awful that it takes so little time to level to max it's so badit's actually awful that it's so easy to level alts it's actually so awful it's so badit's terrible
>>582209239>classic players dont like to admit that classic is played far less than retailno they actually believe what you're saying is wrong because of paltry youtube and twitch numbers for classic grifters so obviously retail has to be way less played
>>582205606yea not sure if I like the tier set, honestly it's kind of obnoxious during lust but the damage gain I probably the highest of any set this season
>>582209239if they really fixed questing post lvl 20 it has a chance but I think horizontal progression will backfire>annoying raid drops bis>do it until you get it >everyone that doesnt have it yet can get fucked
>pres evoker doing 120k DPSwhat the fuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>582203168rogue, boomy, mm, disc, mw, pres
>>582210301doesn't matter if its not overall i can do 200k during lust i'm still going to have a goose egg at the end of the run becauase i have damage numbers from tww>its overall well then link the log moron
>>582210495https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HJ43whXYKMaNLy8R?fight=17&type=damage-done&source=101
more things should actually be character bound instead of account boundit's actually awful that everything is account boundretail is literally going full retard man
still don't really wanna invite one lmao sorry
>>582210782based
mounts should not be account boundtitles should not be account boundtransmog should not be account bound
>>582209501the corporation trying to make as much money as possible isn’t developing a subscription game where players are meant to quit
>>582209239yeah the literal millions of players that want to go back to wow and actually have new content definitely represent a smaller playerbase than retail. For sure. Retards.
>>582211001youre suppose to quit forever not wowyou play retail during the offseason and the other way aroundthis is their design
>>582210680>do no healing so you can damage parse on a healerwoooow
>>582211190You don't really have the option of 'doing no healing' in M+ though
>>582211309>link raid log>BUT IN M+okay buddy
God I suck...
Who wonnered? Who losted?
Nov 2026>a launch that's somehow worse than tww>constant shard switching>lag>honeymoon startsDec 2026>ath stream viewership>servers stable you you can playFeb 2027>honeymoon ends>playercount drops turns out a good chunk didn't make it to 60>they realize it's just retail->winding downMarch 2027>streams now are retail maze+ers with foreverkeks at the bottomMay 2027>forever is dead>wowfg threads last 3 days on avg
>>582211660But we still love you! :3
>>582211778The cope is so insane. Imagine being afraid of a fucking videogame launch.
>>582211749Wow obviously. You get 5 different versions of it with 1 sub.
>>582209239what? its the most watched stuff on every platform
>tankxiety>rankedxiety>parsexietybros...
>>582212087>no sneedxietyfeels good
>>582211407his example log is retarded but they really are doing that much in maze already
>>582212087>delvexiety
>>582141528Not this retard again.
>>582212428I'm simply going to blame lack of logging and inferior teammates that require me to heal more :^)
>>582212921the pulls in your 16s or whatever that is are also probably half the size
>>582171884Absolutely seething at shit that has no effect on you whatsoever.
>>582212897how mad are you
‘Thyr Thursday thread next please
>>582213076That's a fair point too, yeah. ST I can maybe push 50k if procs align but with AoE number just goes up forever.
>havoc doing double the funnel damage of anyone else>UH hotfixed to be top DPS by over 5%solid patch blizz good job
>Ruins your game
IT BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>582213282Retard
>>582210782>>582210680>>582212428crazy i have 90+ damage logs in 17s/18s as herald with like 20k dps lmfao
>>582210782What's the point of Keeper of the Grove Resto Druid? What's the use case?
>>582213865Honestly every key I've done with a r druid has felt like shit. Im sure im playing with bad ones, but im almost at the point I dont invite them.
>>582214102>>582214102>>582214102