>Dark Meat edition>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:Arbiter of Life and Death, Phyllisia - Until 10/14https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026091702/Founder of the Fallen Star, Arboris - Until 10/7https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026091002/>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:Guardian from the Shadows, Gerard - Until 9/30https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026090302/Teller of the Doomed Village's Tale, Linaria returns! - Until 10/21 >Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/[More platforms] SteamOS/Linux workaround (the game still tries to delete itself)https://steamcommunity.com/app/2379740/discussions/0/583930834798645041/ASPD nerf - https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/news/2026082703/[More fishing] Silverscale Count’s Manor[Fire mage equipment] Cave of Malice update[September Roadmap] https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2094712279531180421>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>581788145
Annyeversnyary banner will be shota beastfolk pugilist
>WizDaphne's new character Felicia hasn't come to my place, so I'm not quite sure, but she seems to have wings or something, so I think she must have been born from an egg. Since she looks bird-like, I bet she'd be delicious if made into fried chicken.
>>582204031https://www.daphne-checker.com/comparehttps://wizardry.daphne-fishingcalc.workers.dev/
>>582205014inshallah
>>582204031she's not even brown, hardly olive if anything
>>582206703>https://www.daphne-checker.com/compareI always re-post this one but wasn't there a different site that was much easier to read with only lvl 70 stats?
me on the right
Got Linaria on pull 99, what do I even do with the pity currency now? Level 2 ballad? D1? Is it possible for an exchange weapon to be anything other than 1* white?
>>582211338Ballad inherit for Alice.
>>582211338My citrus hairpin was 1* green so yes
>>582211604Why does food for non-uggos need inherits?
I want linaria but don't want to spend more gems
I don't understand encore 's wording. Do priest buffs for atk/def (stats) all have a chance to trigger? Is it even possible to inherit batlegrief? The wording says it's only skills and I have t gotten encore to trigger yet with like makaltu
>>582211338The gacha weapon isn't great for her. It is possible to get up to 5* red, I've had a 2* red yuzu pin but I've never seen another anon post a red gacha weapon. Go for her d1 100%. That way you can merge disciplines and her gacha armor isn't great.
>choco and albino cunnyWHOA calm down rabbi, I only have 3k
>>582215973>Linaria>cunny
>>582216232linaria is just choco, ur reading it wrong
Linaria's choco taco
>>582214065I have a 1* red nyalice staff. My only good gacha item is an FAS'd 5* purple 60 evasion Owen shirt.
>>582206703>says large winter trout bites on the second nibble with abyss larva bait>try it>doesn't hooki'm guessing some RNG is involved? also sometimes it never takes the bait under.
>>582216358>>582217907she's White
vivi
>>582218308Heavy rig?
>>582219115yep, heavy rig and 8 depth like the site says
Is Linaria a must pull or should I save my gems for anni?
>>582219330She is a brick, worse than just using a row synergy. Could get bricked further by her CC.
>>582219250JP wiki says 3rd or 4th nibbleIdk myself since I always accidentally catch them while trying to get something else
>>582213937It is in fact only for skills, not spells and only those that don't do any damage. That bit about "stat buff or debuff" is not quite right because it will trigger on some skills like taunts and dissipation as well. Spells are still valuable but you just have to do them as the second action of a turn. Thankfully it is a second action within the same turn and not a second turn so it does not fuck your buffs.
>>582218776
>>582219330>Is Linaria a must pullNot even a little bit, but she's fun > save my gems for anni?Yes, even if you wind up not wanting the anni unit, just see what it is before possibly going back for Linaria if you want her
>>582218308Water is now murky so insect larva is an awful idea. You want dragonfly now. That said, tide bonus has gone from great to poor now. You might want to try tomorrow.
>>582219330 sadly she only has the Waifu factor for now, her only hope to become usable is the class change, which should be soonish (?).
>>582221602Based on Yoizou, exactly 1 week
>>582219330She has the best tits in the game.
>>582221732Based on Erwin, 2 months
What's ideal team comp and strat for the A4 wolf boss?you guys are usually much smarter than google
>>582222785The best strat is to give everyone scrolls of fireball/inferno, never let the boss freeze, and burst it down hard and fast when he's on his last legs
>>582222785get your MC to have at least 4 flames from the well and if you're close don't be afraid to spend 100 gems to refresh and keep attempting.
>>582221602Surely level 80 will save Thief, priest and mage
they wouldn't even let thief apply critical poison in one turn, thieves will never do damage.
>>582222785a Healer to keep you warm helps quite a lotgive everyone Scroll of Inferno to keep the big dog unfrozenmanage the damage, he has tresholds that spawn more dogs or freeze the whole partyAOE, preferably the fire kind
>>582222785Odachi samurai, put fire in the sword and spam row attack. Do whatever to support that.
which daphne has the>highest>lowestquality anus?
>>582223659>4 flames from the wellwow I didn't even know this was a thingthat's super helpful thanks>>582223487>>582223976I have Phyllisia so I'll bring her.Should I run 3 Fighters in front and Mage/Priest/Healer in back for this then?
>>582221602They literally said her class change will happen during her rerun banner.Don’t you gwos read?
>>582224709Nope too busy playing the game
>>582224915i bet you dont even play you just post cats on /wizg/ and add random ny-s to your words
>>582224709Yes but how long? I assume they will announce that it's coming on the October road map?
>>582224709Wut is reading?It is a Frontrow Evil Charater?Is a Waifu?
>>582225041im that one retard with 3.7k hours
>>582222785fasterthoughts has the numbers but the Wolf Leader can act out of turn to do something like summon wolves or cast Cold on everyone on the field, you may want to pace your damageIf you dont watch the damage numbers you will most likely trigger his breakpoint before it's his turn and he will just cast Cold out of turn then Glacial Storm you right afterMake sure to kill the minion wolves too they can get very annoying very quickly, you can confuse them (KANTIOS) with decent successLike mentioned, fire spells and mages are crucial in wiping out Cold/Freeze on the Big Wolf so he cant cast glacial stormDefinitely look for Magical Beast Resistance in both gear and in the Well of the Mind, they will save your ass
>fattertranniesopinion disregarded
>>582223969The bigger issue is that you can very rarely apply regular poison in one turn. At least poison berry's critical poison always works.
Just started the game, why the ghost decided to flash her panties every time she talks to me? How's the eng dub in this game? I defaulted to japanese, but some random phrases are not subtitled and I'm dekinai. Also, I'm curious about updates, what can I expect? New classes? Skills? Or only new characters?
>>582228182eng dub is okay, some like Rinne or Shelirionach are hilariously bad, but it's nice to hear what they're actually sayingupdates are kind of slow and are typically a new area, character or some sort of QoL update, with Main Story being the longest updates (last Abyss was December of last year)
>>582226612We need a tojofiles anon.
>>582228182Pretty much every EN voice knocks it out of the park. The voice acting is also very Dark Souls esque, iykyk. The only voices I dislike is Al*ce and Chloe, ironically.
Any good routes for farming Alabaster? I've been just doing chest auto on 2F then leaving.
>>582224514Your anus have the biggest mileage in Jakarta sea nigger kun. It's like tourist attraction.
started lvling priest mc a couple days ago and im getting tired, been running event dung for exp and mats, should I keep going? main class is fighter lvl 50 and this should already leave priest around lvl40, don't think it gets any more usable skills till much later so by then the lvl gap should be enough to guarantee the exp bonus right?
>>582223659>you're close don't be afraid to spend 100 gems to refresh and keep attemptingactually the worst advice I've ever seen anywhere on any topic in my entire life
>>582228512Sheli is bad in eng?Rinne is just bad, on that i can agre, but i didn't want to kill a puppy hearing Sheli in eng.
>>582223659Lmao. This guy spend gems in catacombs.
>>582229616it's 100 gems for 4 attempts or literally just stopping for the day and losing all momentum. You can't even do dailies anymore if you are stuck on a boss and rewinding attempts.
>>582229318I have been doing the daily exp mission with mage Masketta for months...You should use those books to level up adventurers (including Masketta) with ninja and samurai classes
>>582229313I only anuspost now to see you seethe and show up within 30 minutesI dont think yoi have anything else going on in your life but it's entetaining to watchKinda like a zoo
>>582228512Sheli has some good voice lines. It's like her tone is just off most of the time. And the line she spams where she says so sleepy gets really annoying.
>>582229825>momentumIt's just some trash packs, if you even have to leave when you have potentially ~20 more attempts for free just by waiting depending on when you did dailiesI sat at Doll for a day after A3 launch with nothing but a nerfed pickax and Yek doing anything approaching real damage, so I know the drill
>>582230002Why is that? Back when I first stopped playing we didn't have neither samurai nor ninja yet, are they hard to lvl for some reason?
>>582230297Sam and Nin take twice the exp to get the to level 70
>>582230043>guy is selling his ass and sanity for a drop of attentionMany such cases.
benis
>>582230297Advanced classes need more XP. Regular is like 7m xp to 70. Rangers and healers are like 10m. Ninja/Samurai are like 20m.
>>582230538
>>582230297Most classes take 10 million exp to level to 70, Ranger and healer take 15 mil, and Ninja and Samurai come in at 25 million, and will probably drive anyone who hasn't been stocking up books all year actually insane to get to 80.
>>582231057You will be forever knows as anus boy and yes I would prefer to be a big kot than a monkey(that monkey is still smarter and more handsome than you)
>>582231595keep seething weeb from the philippines
>>582230497>>582230959>>582231416sweet Jesus
>>582231416Yuzu took me months
>>582232438I think Yuzu went from 60 to 70 in about a week with A4 progress and an XP blessing.The regular classes took about 3 days.
>>582228810What do you dislike about Chloe ? I find her cute in a tomboy way
>>582224514Someone made a chart looooooong ago.
>>582220875We're reaching levels of autism not thought possible.
>>582234656I just don't like her voice there isn't much to say.
I can't decide if Lana's VA is terrible or good
The pro-anus guy and anti-anus guy fighting is pretty funny.
Reminder to report and ignore shitposters
You know... Linaria would be a good halloween alt choice wouldn't she? And the timing also matches up. Does the actual banner come after anni or before I wonder?
>>582239186Her alt isn't "due" for another 6 months and they would never back to back the re-run banner and the alt style like that. Halloween alt is likely and top 3 in order of most to least likely would be Sheli, Raff, and Gillion.
>>582240171They haven't done any themed 5* yet have they? I thought that was only regular adventurers for holidays?
>>582240261New Year Alice and Summer Yek jump to mind.
>>582241365idk I have yeka alt and it doesn't scream summer to me in the same way chloe's swimsuit does.
>>582241621but it is a summer alt
>>582241621>Everdistant SUMMERshade>Not a summer skinOkay
>>582241621Summer's not all about bikinis. It's about hats, too
>>582241756>>582241873she looks like she's going to a funeral. it's just transparent in a few places, not really ocean ready.>>582242231Sure but why don't I get more skin if it's summer?
>Priest yeka's white hood doesn't have little horn shapesmissed opportunity
>>582242381>Why doesn't the goth girl expose herself to sunburn more when she's not even at the beach? I dunno man, you might just be retarded
who is he quoting chat?
There are no goth bitches in this game. Fucking zoomers don't even know what goth means.
>>582240171>6 monthsThat's optimistic. Pretty much only Berk and Shiou have gotten an alt within a year of their release.
>>582231786There goes anus boy. Starved for cock and attention. What a faggot. What a tool.
>>582244748This. Yeka is wearing her widow's attire at all times because she is for Netori CHADS only that inseminate her while mr bones watches and she makes eye contact with him while moaning my name
>>582245782I never made the connection that it's window's attire, that's a pretty cool design choice.
Has anyone tried farming Dutz instead of the cyclops? I found a guide for it and it's supposedly a faster and easier farm once you are set up for it. Just have to speed tune in the following order to 1-2 turn it and the runs are quick.>2 dalto users that act first>1 fire DPS who to shatter(ideally s. chloe with a 2h silver hammer and lv3+ eruption)>a ranger for capturing(90+ dex)
>>582248384i just macro scorps
>>582180373keep going it'll balance out
>>582248738That's glacially slow and if you are gonna macro anyway might as well macro a faster farm.
>>582248384Thunderer is already fast enough. Dutz has 4 extra loading screens, more walking, and the dialogue.
>>582248912Including loading, the runs apparently take like 2-3 minutes. Unless you are killing one eye boy super fast I'm pretty sure it wins out.
>>582248779This is my 253 kill yoto
>>582248829there is no faster bounty medal farm that gives sur relicshp relics too if you swing by the mino
>>582248779>27 copies at least in 81 killsthats nyot bad, its feasible to farm compared to scouring A4 ninjas and just getting trash upon trash
I already have a few pairs of golden gloves / grave robber but if I want to get like 6 more pairs for +15 where do I farm them at specifically?
>>582251508Why does benis only have a tiny cup
>>582251768her hands are actually just that large.
>If encore procs while using "last action" auto it will just set Linaria to use attack, even in the next fight when she could use Ballad again
large hands for her large benis
Anni is a dual banner. Front line healer that passively auto res the first 2 deaths per fight. Second banner is another backline physical dps with a 2 hit bow. The meta backline is now Linaria x Yuzu x ???
>>582249084I tried both. Dutz was 3:45 and thunderer was 2:45 from wheel to collecting the medals. I do admit the dutz freeze strat is super simple and easy but took me all 12 actions instead of just 6.
>>582252294that's why we still need better autos
Anni unit will be a tomboy monk, general will be a shota monk, trust the plan
Anni is EoS
>>582253261isn't the last canon class missing bishop?
>>582253559See >>581731506From Wizardry 1 we're missing both Lord and Bishop, but Monk was present in 6, 7, and 8 and we just got the punch weapon so....
>>582248779Is there even a point to getting it? Odachis are used for farming and this seems like overkill.
>>582254093We're not missing lord. Knight is lord.A lot of people thought anemone was bishop there's not a 0% chance healer isn't bishop.
>>582254241I like variety and goalposts, they make farming more enjoyable
>>582252562>Linaria>metaBro you are high.
evens female anni adventurerodds male0 a furry
>>582252562>2 hit bowI see this come up in every horrible post
>>582256768praise the numbers
>>582256934you're rightwe gotta do 3 hit bows
>>582253034Sounds like an optimization issue, you should be able to 1 turn dutz pretty easy. He only has 20k you need to burn through(compared to the 60k plus adds diluting yuzu's yuzing on todoroki)
>>582256768Male (female) is fine too
>>582256934>rugpulling Yuzu pinfags Drecoms is 100% doing this...
>>582257231How's it a rug pull? You'd just put both of them on the same team.
>>582257231>rugpullingwouldn't that just make hue on ranger mlg?wouldn't yuzu enjoyers just win again?
>>582254743>Knight is lord.Hmmm, nyo.
>>582257564>wouldn't that just make hue on ranger mlg?I think that's why he is saying it's a rug pull, because pin pullers would need to get the bow to still mlg. But also he ignores the reality that we don't have any other backline dps on the same level so the real meta strat would be to simply run both pin yuzu and bow whoever the fuck the few bitch is.
>>582257657Christ is the Lord.
>>582254241I like the confusion passive. But ichimonji slash with it is suicidal.
>>582257801>rugpulled after a full year>the rugpull is an upgrade>the I now have an item for my MC ninja mainhandrugpull.
for abyss 5, i hope they make mages have a use past spamming LA spells and malefic wind
>>582260374not being able to sur on their spells just hurts too much for damage output. Most of their kit is neutered because damaging options are bad outside very niche uses
It would be nice if they gave mp/sp/health regen when you defend like in legend of dragoon.
>>582260895Even if they could they would still do shit damage. The caps on spells are just too low. You could double them and give them normal sur rates and they would still be weak.
It's funny how melee hits harder and just ignores elements, where mages can be very easily bricked by a bad element since they only learn 1 type of spell. Maybe we need an archmage or sorceror to mix things up. I want the mage to feel like the ones in FE.
>>582261074no, doubling them and giving them normal sur rates wouldn't be bad at all and will be a decent start. Classes that aren't hard dps like fighter/sam seem to get to do half or a third of their damage, so mages will be able to do close to that + aoe options and still retain debuffs and support/heal actions when needed. With a foundation like that in perhaps then they can add proper damaging spells next level cap
Phys immune enemies coming soon
>>582261954I spam livana axe skill
>>582261954shadowlord was so fucking funny like "yeah he's half immine to phys and magic at a time but whenever he's immune to phys you might as well do 0 damage"
>>582262249Your Nootralman?
>>582262249Gwo, your rinne inherits?>>582262340Nyootralman fists fucking suck balls.
iarumas' finger gun is so cool
>>582262864>Nyootralman fists fucking suck balls.wow... I didn't know he was like thatdoes he frequent gay bars?
>gwos itt doesnt surety hit fist of god for 9kswos...
>>582262249Yeah it feels like they just FORGOT they made magic suck ass. Even with tzalik you have to spend a turn on Mental Unity so you only get one tzalik off anyway.
>>582262249My rinner hits for 4k with Mof
>>582257065Optimizing around the shatter feels like a waste.https://streamable.com/11f5qkI need to pump Yuzu's surety so that she does 10k herself without worrying about aspd.
>>582262994Nyesss, I mean just look at ainiggi and garbage and berka, they aren't pregnant are they?
>>582263013only lvl 1 and I think i was hitting close to 2k when he came out
>>582263447raraja's prolapsed anus...
>>582263459>2kit should do like 4k non-surety hit at least with decent mag on level 1it does massive damage on counter, major if no counter
>>582263442You should have shattered with eruption strike. Should be getting 10k without surety and nearly 20k with it if you are set up right.
>>582262249>whenever he's immune to phys you might as well do 0 damageMy Tzalikman hit for 4k with level 3 Tzalik and my Alice hit for 2k with Gate of Tartarus.
>>582263685There is a small wrinkle in that plan. 11k surety ragnarok poise/scourge is better than a 9k non-surety hammer eruption strike.And eruption strike without the hammer is pretty bad.
>>582263013Is there any way to reliably get enemies to target iarumas when he does his fist stance counter
>>582263442>>582263685Non-freeze setuphttps://streamable.com/jy00n4
>>582264335It's not that bad. Eruption Strike gives a 30% bonus to hammers. I forget which part of the equation that 30% applies to but it's definitely 30%.
>>582266117Just feels like a lot can go wrong with the Potion Seller.RNG says no to the capture attempt and you could find yourself down a party member.Thunderer is an easy fight with very little chance of things going askew.
doesn't eruption strike get cucked out of the shatter because it applies the fire first? or did they fix that
Another perk of doing Dutz. I think I will be using him for my monthly bounties from now on. There is also some time save from only needing the inn every 5 loops instead of every single time with the thunderer.>>582267198I was missing ropes with an 82 dex Rinne, but 99 dex Yrsa has caught him every time.>>582267310You can combine shatter and the fire bonus. Ragnarok eruption strike was doing 11.5k on shatter for me.
Linaria and Savia, my slightly brown brickwives
>>582267686I avg 3-4m with cyclops if dutz is good for you gz but, I don't have a 99 dex ranger and I'm not lvling heinrico
why didn't they release the lin rerun wit her CC gwos...
>>582269358Bait andLinaria CC might be bad aka priest or mage
>>582269598>not wanting the slutty nun outfit
>>582269978already got marianne and sheli for that
>>582267686can gold mimic spawn outside the caves or is that just the monthly reset one
>>582267310Nope, and if you are using it on chloe you also get her anti adventurer bonus(which is why she is so good for dutz farming).
>>582270093Gold mimic can spawn anywhere on 7 through to the church.
>>582270221:O nyeat
What would be a non-brick CC for Linaria
>>582271098ranger, ninjer, healer (if incenses work)knight and fighter will be okonly priest and mages would be kinda bricky
>>582271282Wouldn't it be nice for her to have the full priest spell lineup?
>>582271483there's a few problem with thatshe can basically only do ballad to trigger extra action, and when you want to cast your priest spells you dont want it to be an RNG thing.And when you're just casting spells, there are plenty of dual casters who can do that job, since all they do is spam buffs and debuffs
>>582271483Dialko,kusfis,abit, porto and others are all obtainable without a CC.
>>582271687>>582271893Priest is still fine for Linaria to let her be a mini Alice who has to waste SP and roll a dice to activate her "synergy".It's just that she would rather be a mini Alice who deals damage (ranger,ninja) or provides utility that Alice cannot (healer)
>>582272087That would be utter dogshit
good women
>>582271098Ranger is her best case, followed by fighter or maybe healer(depending on how into incest she is). Ninja doesn't do anything for her(shedding is nice but the class itself sucks balls without a busted unique skill or a class change to fighter or ranger, thief/ninja just tickles shit on it's own). Priest would be playable but not ideal, mostly on account of being a worse healer. Knigger or mage is fucking useless on her.
>>582271098>NinjaShedding,Vitality jutsu, hairpin access>KnightKD and all round cover in one turn,Meme Guard blow damage setups.>FighterBattlecry meme,Acess to 2h staff is nice>HealerFlat utility>RangerBarely better than mage Ranger feels incomplete>Mage Maleficwind,Mental unity procs encore,mages are still bad, surety goes to waste,Need tazlik.>PriestLow SP,Surety mostly goes to waste,Skillset can be learned from rares and books. flatout the worst CC option
Samurai Linaria but she plays a flute instead of her lute when camping.
Let's just say that Linaria...heh...is already..."playing"...MY flute...when camping ifyouknowwhatimsayan...
>>582274445Your kazoo is not a flute anon.
>>582274445Sorry sdwo(small dick warped one). She can't find it(too smal)
>>582274445I just let her play with my rod and tackle
I tried to farm the potion guy and yeah he is much faster for me then cyclop. Pr anything really.
>>582274690if you can do enough damage to capture him in one round he's good to farm
>>582204031The last good non-aislop design....
>>582275463but shes slop too....
>>582275463Every character since marianne alter has been AI anon.... no exceptions. Maybe even before that, but that's the first one people really noticed.
>>582274580
>>582248779>>582249254where is the oni boss on the map? I wanna try it out
nyontents? pwease? im hungies
>>582279193clear the fish shop first kwo
Where's that new urgent daily .... Can't find it
>>582280130
>>582280264retard
>reeling in large eel for 6 minutes>instantly snaps the line at 5mthe old man didn't tell me they do a desperate struggle below 5m, you pretty much have to let go or they just break free. fuck you JD.
>>582280264get it from arna
>>582280831What? He tells you exactly that.
Oh it's that tag daily that might mess with your alignment.
they've eaten quite a bit of bait
that was a bit clumsy
>stonefolk request>stonefolk just casually does 800 damage on a clampFuck man I wasn't even frozen.
>>582283314
>Slowly starting to enjoy fishing.Im warping
>>582281213How do they know we have ears they're always covered
>>582283775women often report having orgasms while being rapedthat is what you're currently experiencing
>>582284326Anon is just experiencing be old more like. All old men like fishing. By law.
This game ain't no country for old men.
I wasted 60 rolls to not get Phylly but at least I got my first Rinne from the legendary bone.
>>582288901may as well keep going
>>582289305I'll wait for anni.
>sure evasion???
>>582289902surety resistanceif enemy has 20 surety and you have 20 surety evasion you will never have a surety hit inflicted on you
>>582271098Healer and Ninjer. Realistically Healer is the best one. Priest is a meme, Mage is a giga meme. Knight is good but I don't see her bringing much more utility than Knights we already have in the game. Ranger is a me despite what some people might say. Fighter is embarrassing. Samurai... do I even need to say it?
>>582291118> Knight is good but I don't see her bringing much more utility than Knights we already have in the game.da fak? she could KD+all around cover
>>582291173On the first turn her Encore activates, after that she's just a generic evil knight the rest of the fight unless RNG decides to give her an extra turn down the line. Maybe with the Gerard Alt inherit her gimmick might be worth something.
>>582291118Ninja is beyond useless for a character that has no access to real damage. There is zero point to shedding if you can't take advantage of it.
>>582291591>Ninja is beyond useless for a character that has no access to real damage. There is zero point to shedding if you can't take advantage of it.what the fuck are you talking aboutthief is the best possible subclass for ninja you get like +20% damage on surety with way of the thiefif you put some codices on wott she just outdamages yuzu with hue
>>58229177420% damage on fucking what anon? You realize that neither class does any fucking damage without a unique skill right? Linaria doesn't have a yuzu or rinne skill you know? She just has a shitty buff. What are you gonna do?>oh wow 20% more damage on my shitty ass sneak attack or covert strike suuugggggggoooiNinja/thief is a beyond dogshit combo on it's own.
>>582292619you can inherit hue
>>582293137Are you really, seriously gonna eat a yuzu though? Like yeah you could. Or you could hope for a class change that doesn't need to eat a better character to be a worse version of them.
>>582292619NTA but dts 3 is bretty good
>>582293315>Or you could hope for a class change that doesn't need to eat a better character to be a worse version of them.you can't talk of absolute best/worse because for whales linaria would be better than yuzufor the average joe yeah yuzu probably wins (but not by a lot)
>>582293615No, she wouldn't. Hue is nerfed when inherited pretty hard. Also way of the thief is sometimes in books anyway so you would already have that on Yuzu. And if we are talking whales Linaria will never be relevant over Rinne and Yuzu(most characters won't) nor Anemone or Philly.
>>582293794>Hue is nerfed when inherited pretty hardit's around 30%>Also way of the thief is sometimes in books anyway so you would already have that on Yuzunope wott is impossible to obtain if you aren't a thief. there is no book for it.>And if we are talking whales Linaria will never be relevant over Rinne and Yuzufunny you should point that out since an extra turn dumpsters on rinne's pathetic surety buff. rinne has no real damaging skills for bossfights, much like linaria if you aren't inheriting
>>582293998Yeah, you are just retarded. Got it. Play the game and shut your f2poor ass who knows shit about the whale meta.
>>582294245you didn't disprove anything i said you fucking troglodyte
>>582294306I don't have to, because the game does it for me. Along with the countless whale superboss clears. Like your dumb ass really thinks you can't get wott books. There is nothing more to say. You don't know shit.
>>582294475>Like your dumb ass really thinks you can't get wott booksyou are actually mentally retarded if you think you can get wott books. it's not in the game. only scrolls are from the thief trials and those can't be used to teach wott to anyone, only to raise the skill level for thieves/thief subclasses specifically
Oh my...must you look so grim ?
want wahmen
>>582294475I hate it when retards spew shit as if they know shit and they do it confidently. That is how misinformation spreads. Way of The Thief is class locked. Fucking third worlder.
Grown a bit as a third-worlder havent you ?
>>582294475you really should go back to posting about buttholes seanigger-kunthinking is clearly not your forte
>f2poor is so assblasted he has to samefag
when the buttholes cry
this place is as brown as always
I was feeling rather bored... You ?
nyo nyontents
Is the ghost castle the only place that has monk weapon in junk?
>>582298108oh nyes
>>582271098Samurai. Can enchant weapon as free turn.
>>582298108Currently, but also once you get a good one you can just buy fodder from the weapon shop.
>>582298824swo... weapon enchants are spells not skills...
New chapter ripped and uploaded https://mega.nz/folder/Q0N1jT7J#uHQrWvnKK89Up4_-y8dZcA
How it feels fighting A4 bosseshttps://youtu.be/04gGozzKudg?si=UJxZXoy_VVMAafg9
>>582262249eh the difficulty was low enough to where i feel like that was just the devs experimenting with that mechanic. my guys beat arch shadowlord at an average party level of like 45 with meh gear, he seemed pretty trivial if you were using a healers' incense properly since he telegraphed all his big aoe status effects in the future they may do that mechanic but have it be more thoughtful/difficult
what the fuck happened that now we got actual retards saying you can inherit wott
>he is still goinggwo.....
>>582301036Is there ANYTHING happening in this manga at all or it's just shots of iconic characters and glazing masketta?
>>582302631I don't think the masked man has been frosted once. What do you mean? He isn't a donut.
>>582302586You deserve to get shit on for saying the dumbest thing retardgwo
>>582301601Experiment or not, that’s literally how the Shadow Lord fights work in XI.
>>582303068>>582302586now kiss
>>582302746ikr this is probably some kind of metachasing retard with a hyperinvested yuzu who got PERSONALLY slighted that someone brought up the chance that the bottom-tier 100% skipbait brown woman with a thief base class having a meta case where she blows the fuck out of his waifut.gwo who just caught up with the thread
Whales play a completely different game holy shit. Just saw a whale dragon clear where they guy's Yuzu essentially went Porto on MC>Cortu>quick auto to apply foxfire>Porto again and only used Hue like twice in the entire fight. Straight up just a support.
>>582305276nyeswe've known this since forever
>>582305006I have half a mind to pull for her just because you said that.I mean that's why I pulled 3 Livanas and look at her now.
>>582310251Is livlov good now or is she brick or something?Still doesn't matter that much because the game isn't THAT hard that you can't play with your favourite brown wives desu.Lin hasn't left my team since her first run because she stole my shriveled ghoul heart at first sight. With a healthy amount of inherits she's doing a lot of work actually. As long as the CC isn't straight up anti synergy I'll be happy
>>582305006I just want Linaria to be usable other than a chest openeralso fun fact, Linaria and Yuzu share the same eng's VA
>>582311347Same but Chloe
>>582311347Moonlit Pool is one of the best inheritable skills and is still the only source of magic damage debuff.Beware though because some enemies will counter it with mental unity.
Holy FUCK this was hard. Those stonefolk must have like 40k hp each and enough attack power to just one-shot anyone who isn't defending.
who won? who lost?
>>582315590We all did
KISS YOUR BUTT GOODBYE!
>>582316073mwahmwahmwahMMMMWAH*slurp*
>>582312663I did it recently too.Wasn't worth it.
>>582317078You definitely want your monthly icebreaker. You need the 30 freeze damage to shatter a cyclops in one action.
>>582317223nah im good
>>582311664Oh I fucking knew it was similar. WoW.
Even DLSS5 can't help this game
2/3
>>582320913>slop can't improve upon a masterpieceno shit
3/3
>>582320913It will never stop being funny how the goal of modern gaming is too make graphics that look half as good as skyrim with mods did 12 years ago.
>>582320913Can you post Abenius please?
>>582321284The so-called masterpiece relies heavily on "slop."
>>582322362you obviously have no clue how to use the tech bro stop posting this trash
>>582322548whats the point of this shit if the average retard customer cant use it properly?
keep posting ugly yuzus since these guys obviously can't take a shitpost
Post DLSS ugly bastard viscount Guane
>>582320913
>>5823222021/3
>>582321643Jesus christ how many passes is that??
>>5823222022/3
>>582323774would mouthfuck
>>5823237862, but it is not so much different than just 1.3/3
>>582323998reminded me of this. truly art
>>5823222023/3
>>582322789We only have access because it was hacked out of an NBA game or something and the default settings are for that, and the browns spamming it everywhere do not adjust it, so that's why every character looks like they could be named Laquisha Quantavious Diamonque when you apply it to their face
>>582324840The beastfolk remain too free and should be gatekept from technology.
>>582324663Wonder how Gerulf and Phyllsia will be whit DLSS on
>>582301036What's the name of the new samurai guy?
>>582204031I only have 12k jimmies and i'm F2P and i really like evil girls with guitar.Should i cave in bros?
>>582322789Literally to excite speculative investing
>>582324331I understand farmer-san nowI'd have killed this too
>>582325338Not yet. Her banner will overlap with the anni banner by about a week. For all you know anni will be an evil girl with TWO guitar so just chill until the 15th and maybe circle back.
>>582325338nyo16k at least to spark after sucking up all the free bones and extra carats the banner give you or you can die
>>582325529>>582325553what is when anniv is anniversary
>>582325338go fish for gems
I roll for all women with large ears or large breasts.Simple as.
>>582324331my god you turned her into a blythe doll.
>>582325650october (two weeks)
>>582322548
>>582320913>>582321205>>582321643>>582323774>>582323998>>582324331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGWabpugYVU
>>582326838can any artfag edit that image of skeletor into masketta's?
>>582326360>incorrect wojak cringeJust search a random anime gacha + DLSS5
>>582325171I don't have Phyllisia, this is the closest you can have
>>582327351Every video i've seen from those is a spastic high movement combat video with a brazillian particle effects going on at all times so even if the bitrate wasn't crushed into the ground you wouldn't be able to see shit.
>>582325338I will wait, the 15th of october is the game 2nd anniversary. Last year Drecom gave many gems and bones and released the strongest DPS in the entire game.
At least it is good on something, if you don't look at their faces.
>>582325338Post your party
>>582325419her boss form looks better-ish at least
Only brown elf can yield good result.
>>582327504>the druggie>>582328012>the drug dealer
>>582327660>makes shit upIf you actually did it, you'd see a series of character stills that look different based on their settings
https://x.com/drecomofficial/status/2103404975837864356drecom borrowed 2 billion yen
>>582329371Yeah GPUs are expensive these days
what is the strat for the undead battle? its a lot harder than the cyclops.
>>582328323ok smart guy you know so goddamn much you make it look good in this game.
>>582329371>It's realWtf? I thought the FFXI collab was a success...
>>582330010marein on the backline
>>582330095It was. This is how businesses work. You borrow now so you can make money later. They don't need to be debt free, they just need enough income to make payments on their debt.
>>582330095It is, and they've maintained their expectations for March 2026 to March 2027 total year gross for Daphne of about 115 million US dollars. They're currently in the process of acquiring more of their own stock both from employees who we presented with stock options and on the trading market and need more cash on hand to do it. This is basically them betting on themselves and the idea of their stock value being on the rise.
>>582330076Buy me a video card or do 5 seconds of research and just copy the layer settings / sliders, pajeet
>>582331030>>582330830the japanese think they are trying their hands on a new IP that's going to flop
>>582330519how much div for it to work consistently?
>>582331617i think scrolls are better but no promises
>>582331219They have specifically said that part of their strategy going forward is to explore new, original IP and have founded Drecom Creators Studio to that end and it's certainly possible some amount of this money is used there, but they've already done at least two rounds of stock buying and spent like a billion yen on it so this is not a loan for them to make Concord 2 or whatever.
>>582331864holy fucking copium
>>582331864a reasonable person would think that way but everything drecom touched in the past decade (besides daphne) has turned into shit
They could just put money into this game instead of funding future flops
>>582332537Nah gacha games are low investment products. They're not going to get a good return for additional investment.
>>582332537They did. At the end of their Q1 report they specifically called out that the financial cost of the collaboration would "slow down" operating profit but that it would be worth it to get more eyes on the game before 2nd anniversary. 1st anniversary was the most profitable month they've had by a good margin so they're hoping that they can multiply that for the cost of Prishe, Iroha, and Zeid. The XI collab did exceed expectations but we'll see if that translates through the anniversary like they hope.
>>582333880> At the end of their Q1 report they specifically called out that the financial cost of the collaboration would "slow down" operating profit but that it would be worth it to get more eyes on the game before 2nd anniversaryso if they dont get the money they expect we can kiss goodbyes to anything high effort from now on huh?
*lights cigar**folds out lawn chair**cracks open a cold one*it's fish o' clock
>>582335074Not necessarily. The increased cost was almost all in the fee SE charged Drecom for the use of their characters. Exactly how much that was is not public knowledge but we can probably figure out a ball park at the end of the next Japanese fiscal quarter (around the holidays). The actual making of the dungeon and all was an increased expense they probably will save for "major" events, but even if they just keep it to internal collabs like B&B and the other Wizardry sub-IP they said they're working on, we'll have something to look forward to between new abysses besides Cave of Flowers 2. The other thing that is probably bullshit but we have to wait and see is their AI strategy. What they've stated is that while some companies see AI doing the work of 10 men and reduce their workforce by 90% and keep output the same, they intend to keep the same 10 men and let them produce the work of 100 men. Again, likely bullshit but they at least gesturing at the idea of "doing more."
>>582336032>gesturing at the idea of "doing more."each abyss takes longer than the last one to completetheir production system is complete trash
>>582336340Good games take time.go eat fast food slop somewhere else
>>582336630uuuh wha?abyss 4 took a year and the only new thing they added into it was the freeze mechanic and the blizzardslopthat is the definition of "fast food slop"
I was feeling rather bored... nyu?
>>582336630As the anon whiteknighting Drecom stock I am compelled to point out that this is not me and this anon is retarded.
_________?
>>582343471Yes, what is it little kot ? Meow up.
It's so dead
Is so dead because is the perfect fishing timewhit that said...TOTAL SPINEFOOT DEATH!!!!
Why does nobody in your party ever question your ability to resurrect/rewind time on the spot?
>>582360117probably because they know you already brought them back to life?
>>582360920>Average Shiou Gameplay
this game will eos before manga masketta reaches helmut
>>582362793i am going to put you into eos right now come here
>>582278030b2fyou can reset and rush him, only have to fight like 1 or 2 mobs depending on what you say
accept death
>>582204031for the limited mission, what actually opens it up? because i did the bad end fordraig and can see it meanwhile a friend did the same thing and cant see it
Lively thread lotsa energy!
>>582371595It depends on which side dungeons you've done.
what kot works best for an edit of this Arc pic <--------
>>582371595I did the bad end healer dungeon and then it showed up as an option for the limited dungeon, so maybe it's a combination of main dungeon progress and/or current progression (like if your friend did the bad end fordraig, but then reset, they'd have to clear it again).
HOLD UPMasketta look like THIS?!https://x.com/ri_ma03/status/2102334460293447815
Anyone know how to get the monthly A2 bone to respawn? It's the only one not behaving for me
>>582379835bimbo debra(base alt, not dancer) is probably the closestmaybe amelia but its a stretch
>>582327962Nigga this is pure ass. Delete this
>>582380797try going back to 'all aboard' and then forward again.
>>582380797Watery Obstacle is where I have to wheel to to get the 2 mana pot chests and bone to respawn
I'd pay $50 to double inv limit. I am in hell 1431/1000.
>>582384978That reminds me, is there a known cap? I'm sitting on something like 100k+ junk for the anni sell bonus, if I unjunk it all at once will my account just implode? I remember the game's menus used to slow down a lot at the 40-50k range
>>582385850i never dared push it past 5k at once, the blacksmith gets very laggy at 5kwe're talking 3+ minutes to open a menui wouldn't push it past that
>>582385850You could go through and vendor/extract that much junk w/o warping? I accidentally hit [Reverse 1000] and want to die. They should make an option to auto extract whatever you don't lock and expand locking options.
>>582386894Huh, I've gone above that and was fine until ~40kish, maybe it's just device lag and not inherent in the code or Drecum's servers choking on it>>582386980It's not that bad with Batch Extract if you go through and lock and/or Unify rare stuff like Warrior Princess rings or special Samurai swords first, woe to the unprepared who feel like they have to look at the whole list of shit
>>582386980Oh you mean the process of unjunking it all. My bad, yeah that part sucks
>>582382182>>582384537ty, watery obstacle is what worked.
>>582387505i did it right after collab, maybe they broke somethingdon't wanna end up bricking an account ive put a thousand of hours in
i'm on the second last rank for fishing and i'm so tired of it. the waiting and hooking are so tedious, there's just too much RNG in how they bite the bait or how long you have to wait for the fish to even do so. i really hope they nerf this shit or at least make it more bearable.
>>582387505How do you set up batch extract? I did that first and still had tons of not locked junk it didn't destroy.
>>582380652the marianne is pretty cute
>>582391728I don't do it first, I have a list of things I lock and/or unify first, but besides that you have to fiddle with that set of 'one or more not equipped' or whatever boxes to get everything. I don't understand why those exist and they confuse me, but I just play with them until it's all gone
>>582391594I expect to see some kind of bug fix soon that makes it even slower lol.
>>582391594I'm only 9 but I took a detour and did the 3 large trouts and the port chef thing, I like it. I hope in the next iteration you can fish up a superboss that fucking ganks you and takes all your fish if you lose.
>>582393449Is there any reason to go and do that chef request or can you skip it?5 large fish is a lot of skamacoin to give up.
>>582394231It's a 20 gem cheevo and gives you 5 Golden Frogs. It's annoying to do because you have to catch all the fish after the request, and you probably can't wheel for bone respawns without breaking it, but I managed to do it in a small window of time so I just handed them in, fuck it
>>582393449don't get too excited now unc you might pull a muscle
>>582385850Perhaps a better question is why is there an inventory limit on the first place? Obviously to steal more gems from the players, but it makes inventory management unbearable. I have like 20k junk sitting around that I'm not gonna touch until anni rolls with cheaper enhancement+better sales and clear it all in one day of nolifing equipment management because otherwise I'm gonna be stuck managing it for like a week.
>>582391594I'm just not gonna fish. UGH I KNOW! sorry! But I'm just like... Not gonna fish! HAHA! Sorry!
>>582395098swo, the rewards are very good
>>582398494i dont careid rather spend a hundred bucks than do fishingim not poor
>>582398494That's cool, but I'm white, my time is worth more than what I get fishing. SORRY!
>>582398494>>582399354>>582402397
>the anniversary lego will be a fisher and his skill gets stronger based on the biggest fish you have caughtgwos....you need to fish.....
just finished wolf boss finallywent fishing for first timeit was very relaxing
there is nothing wrong in spending 200 hours grinding a mode you hate for 1 hour worth of nfts
I can already see it, all the anons doing panic fishing in a few weeks because they need pulls for the anniversary characters.
>>582402658The character will fish with you and give you a free rando fish per 5 caught
i checked my junk after anons were talking about it and i've only did undeadm arch 900 times for approx 15 mil~ EXPi didn't realize what i was signing up for when i said i was gonna push samurai and ninjers to the level 70 cap at 25 mil exp
>>582405251please tell me you were using a bot/macro and not autistically doing the request manually 900 timeswhy not just farm literally anything else that would give you EXP on top of good junk like alabaster?
>>582405942this is the only thing in the game i can emulator macro without having to deal with chests or randomized enemiesi'm taking my sweet time grinding here before moving on. if i don't have macros for higher level stuff and gonna rely on shitty blue 2 stars, i'm going to make sure i'm not underleveled
>>582406361which abyss are you in currently?
>>582406559this one is at abyss 2i don't want to do the ship fetch quests again so i've been holding off on it
>>582402658Wow, that's crazy anon! But I'm white! So it doesn't really affect me!
>>582406806>this onedon't tell me you have more than 1 accountalso being lvl70 in abyss 2 kind of defeats the experience
Fuck fishing in this game. I prefer fishing in real life.
>>582403328How many gems does it give?
>>582406832>white>doesn't like fishing
>>582407024maybe... do you think new blood GWOs are actually real past the first few months?>being lvl70 in abyss 2 kind of defeats the experiencei did come back somewhat recently due to new elf but 2H buff made abyss 2 (and probably abyss 3) a joke anyways from my understandingthis is more prep for abyss 4 where i'm planning to go in undergeared and haven't really spoiled myself too much on how the mechanics and maps go
>>582407094I'd also prefer hunting bounties in real life but that's just how it is
>>582407154good point but i still dont understand why you would want more than 1 account in this gamesounds like hell
>>582407229getting gems is a pain in the arse and the 1000 gems returners + 200 gems weekly + 100 gems from webstore is damn stingy for catchup by not even providing a full 10 pullalso no way of transferring invested characters. if i stuck with my original account i'd still be lana / alice / yeka / adam / abenius like everyone elsethe OG characters are kind of a boring team comp... it's the path that's not interesting to blog about nor play.
>>582407456oh okay i thought you were playing 2 accounts at once like a psycho
>>582407148Oh no, I enjoy fishing alright, but only in real life! My father-in-law owns a yacht and sometimes the whole family goes fishing together! The kids usually play videogames on the lower deck though haha!
Goddamn Rinne's en VA is truly bad. It's like she compresses a normal sentence into 2 seconds.
>>582407613>english VAThere's your problem. You're doing this to yourself.
>>582407530i don't think anyone sane really does that and that 'tism is better used towards actual MMOs that pay off with alts
>>582407668Yeah yeah I know the meme but Wizardry's EN cast is really a cut above the average. I especially like Lulu, Chloe, Kagero, Yuzu, Alice, etc.Though I was thinking of switching just to memorize their quotes and help my learning
I'm a newfag and I'm kinda lost. Just finished a tutorial and got 20 rolls for standard banners. Which one is better? I'm not trying to be a metanigger from the start, but I got raped in the forced tutorial character trial, so I'm a bit scared. Also, is purple gem currency for spenders only? I couldn't find them in dailies/weeklies rewards. I assume there is some way to get purple bones and I heard there is an anni coming up, should I try to save them for it?
>>582408013there is no way to get purple gems/bones besides paypiggingthey are the same as green ones, but they give 1 piece of gacha gear every time you roll for the on-banner character(s)you don't need gacha gear, 99% are whalebait trash and the 1% that's good (yuzu's hairpin) can be obtained by rolling 100 times on her banner and exchanging 100 points in the shop
>>582408013For starter accounts, the first banner (with Lana, Yek, Alice etc) is way better. Adventurer's Remains I. There's no point in hoarding them, though some schizos still hope after 1.5 years + of having a double legendary rates event somehow.You're right that purple is for spenders only. For specific banners, you'll want to use your green gems (of Org) to buy green bones for the specific banner you want. I'd recommend waiting a couple of weeks until anniverary
>>582408013bone 1 is better but there is a small catch that you can spook into everyone there rolling limited banners, while you can't do that for bone 2
>>582408176bone 2 felt betterrinne for MOF and red beard inheritlana alt, abenius is strong for slayer passiveonly duds are gerulf and savia...
I sure enjoy my time playing Wizardry Variants : Daphne.
>>582408386>leo
>>582408532Nyes that's me
>>582382132she kinda cute tho
>>582408176>>582408379JD needs to add the option to let us pick 6 of our favorite spooks for the 3% pool on limited banners.I don't need anymore Yek, Gerulf, Lana now that mine are d9. I'd rather sub in Rinne, Benis, and Red Beard.
I don't have Sheli and that makes me upset.
>>582408103>>582408138>>582408176Thanks for the answers, turns out you get bones for the first banner only anyway and I got two Adams and one Debra. Honestly feels like I'm retarded because I can't find any indicator of their rarity. Idk how good they are, but I'm considering rerolling for someone cuter. Btw if I roll two (or more) of the same unit, which one should I register at the guild? Just the one with higher free stat points?
>>582409373I'm sorry gwo.
>>582409384you can exchange bone I to bone II and vice versa for free, infinitely>Btw if I roll two (or more) of the same unit, which one should I register at the guild? Just the one with higher free stat points?if you are a min-max autist, the one with the better IV
>>582409384The adventurer can be either nameless (the worst, like Hum-Fig), "named" (can vary from bad to actually very good), and legendary (golden outline). 2 Adam and 1 Debra isn't that great of a start yeah, good starters are Lanavaille, Yek and Alice. But you'll get all of them and more than once really fast (you even get a free legendary pick at the start) so it's up to you.
>>582409208i too like uggos
>>582409579Yeah, I noticed the golden glow in the roll results screen, but in the adventurer guild registration screen they all look the same aside from no names.
>>582409861It's true, but you'll know them soon enough. Check the gacha screen if you need a refresher
>>582409208The only Agora approved cutie
pale elf anyus>dark chocolate nelf asshole
>>582409582holy sexo
>>582408379Dont you dare to talk shit about my dodgy doggy waifu.She is the best.Just the best.
>>582410238
vitiligo oreo elf anus
mlem mlem mlem
>>582411146Getting Kagero to max trust is a pain, he is soo cryptic, is hard to guess which is the correct awnser.also>"Do not think your sleeping head is safe"
>>582411146I'll just use the guide desu. Trust is annoying enough to increase already. But I fucking love his voice acting and unashamed, unironic edginess.>I reek... I am DEFILED...! As I should be...
>fishing>hooked something>lulutarde says careful and gets my hopes up>small fish music playsshut the fuck up
>>582411592do try to give him a Rinne inherit just to hear his most unhinged laughter
>>582411431he will learn
>>582411768Really? What does it do that gives him a unique voice line?I only have one Rinne at the moment unfortunately but I'll remember it
>actually fished a golden catfish by throwing nearest to shore>+1750 fishcoinsoh nyesaligning the conditions is annoying though, my next window is like in 6 hours
>>582410238There he is. An anus boy. Hungry for ojisan cock and attention. What a faggot. What a tool.
>>582411828it would have been cool if he actually kills you>choose the worst option>"...oh ye Spirits">>582412046MoF has a different line for every charater, i gave to Benis too and she sounds like Sailor Moon>"All shall be return'd to nothing"
>>582412350InterestingThis game has questionable flaws but no oen can deny it's pretty SOVL when it tries to be.
>>582412350Record pls. There are so many voice lines that nobody gets to see.
>>582412450The rare party interactions when a character tells another to be quiet are pretty damn good
>>582412561lemme try, but im a tech illiterate, so take patience
>>582391594They already fixed it get the hardy dwarf to fish shit for you.
>>582412561https://voca.ro/1hPAT3qaQpIkhere's Kagero MoFworking on Benis Mof, be right back
i wonder how much it's going to suck to farm the staff of malice for asha
>>582413452That is not what I expected at all wtf
>>582413452Kek wtfMy dog sure is fucking crazy
>>582413452Sounds like something of BG1
I hate large demon eels so much is unreal. Hours to get one and it goes into the worst rampage I've ever seen to date and snaps the line.
>>582414247>Aah, that was a good frenzy.>Looks like this cheeky line couldnt win against the eel
Here Sailor Benishttps://voca.ro/1dHmEyl17vDnBonus Phlly begin an ABSOLUTE NERDhttps://voca.ro/1dLW9skLwpwN
>>582414513Fug the more time passes the more I want Philly but the anniversary...
>>582414513Benis is channeling her inner edgelordPhil thief confirmed?
>>582412450Yes, there are around 120 different voice lines and interjections for each character, not counting the party interaction that rarely occurs.
>>582414759It saddens me to think of the effort put into characters no one ever usesThey should really capitalize on giving every named adventurer alts rather than AIslopping new ones
>>582412630Linaria start blasting her Lute is cool, but to get those, you have to go afk for like 3-5 minutes then move, but is not guaranteed
>>582415304I bet this is the kind of shit coded as a if condition on every frame (regardless of you having the character) that slows the game
>>582413681Your voice is ambrosia
>>582415074FFIX collab gave you chance to switch trust stage of your party members. it gave me chance to record the voice lines that usually can't be heard.
any chance of abyss 5 for anniversary?
>>582415727Uhm nyoYou'll get exp dungeon, Yuzu rerun and 1 FAS
>>582415727
>>582415727End of the year early next at the soonest. And I'd put money on it being a bit later.
we had a sneak peak 1 month before abyss 4 releasedso november earliest but probably december
Collab killed the game lmao
>>582416205You haven't been to these threads when they're dead, the content droughts of A3 was crazywhere do you think warpposting come from
>>582416672where do you think kotposting came from
>>582416850kots are just warping in a different flavor
>>582410878>338 eva>still got bodied recently
>>582417159yeah you need 400+ nowadays
>>582417159it was the first time i tried the Deranged Shadow Fiend, she managed to dodge most of the stuff, but not everythingThankfully Yuzumaxxing woked out (feat Alice and a lv 63 Philly)
>>582417363Damn these are some good statsGood gear really is something else
>>582416950>>582417159Evasion doesn't do anything at all if you don't meet whatever arbitrary value is needed to exceed accuracy. A4 has fuckhueg accuracy and the chilly weather makes it even worse. Every bit of content since has had lower numbers needed, A5 remains to be seen if it's just as fuckheug as A4 or if it's toned down and viable again.
>>582418440Some stuff you can dodge, some stuff you can't. With even just 200 eva wolves can't do shit to you unless they buff themselves.
>>582416850>where do you think kotposting came fromSEA
>>582420391Priconne?
>>582405942>good junk like alabasterYeah, in the time in took you to do those 900 runs you'd have a 50% chance of getting a single fey junk drop with how good the drop rates in Alabastard are!
how are you gwos farming the sword fiend? I cant get the kills to be consistent because his attacks confusing/stunning my fighters even with a round cover behind a knight
>>582421487I stopped after 20 kills with no Odachi, but unless you're using Savia to evade tank in the back it's just kind of inconsistent unless you level Round Cover up.
I can't believe Drecom referenced Chris-chan.
Should I get Yekaterina or Lanavaille from bone collector in the beginning if I pulled Alice? Yeka is more appealing visually for me, but afaik both Yeka and Alice competing for middle of the back row spot, so idk.
>>582421841i mean round cover level doesnt matter noeven if your knight intercepts the attack, somehow the confusion/stun goes through onto the unit being defended
>>582422095oh shit its the wizardry fasterthoughts page owner.
>this is the white man's gachaI knew I chose well
>>582422106Yek will carry through A2, but Lana is a good front row fighter for the whole game
>>582422106yek. lana rides on both free bones
>>582422095What was it, it got nuked too fast to archive
>>582422106Yeka. Then feed Alice to Yeka.
>>582423596All of the secret knowledge of Wizardry Daphne.
>>582422095>11% of players here are canadi*nsThis is even worse than jeets. Then again, knowing Canada's population nowadays, it might just be them.
I'm doing it gwos. I'm gonna try out a macro to farm the fucking alabaster cave.No I dont care if it makes me not a true gwo now
>>582425227Don't you get it gwo? You're warping... this is what it means to be a true gwo indeed.Anyway, let us know how it goes
>>582422151Makalki the front row.I also suggest two knights. One to use All Round Cover and one to use Knight's Defense. Makes his damage survivable.MC spams Chronostasis and Yuzu kills him with Hue.
>>582422095No wonder these threads are fairly chill compared to other gacha generals
Small elven tits and dark elven pecs... Regrettable, but no sense sitting on dusty bones.
>you called for me? I'm delight - ACK
>>582428926Welp, that's indeed two elves. Not the ones in mind, but whatever. Not pictured: 4 other no-name shitters.
>>582429425>ninchan U WON
>>582427572And also why the thread fucking dies in the middle of the night when the ojisans have to go to bed so they can go to work the next day.
>>582429332SIX SEVEN
>>582429332stop reminding me to finish my bounties. It's only been a year I will get rank 4 soon enough.
What are you farming today gwos?I'm in RT 4/6 trying to find ninjas. Only need 8 more Kag and 6 Yotos.I might finish these just in time for A5.
>>582432480Doing them for the first time is the fun part thoughbeit. What you'll be putting off is what comes next.
>>582432656I'm farmingNYOTINGwaiting for the anni banner before finishing all the currency exchange skill exp scrolls
>>582432656Cyclops. It's not as bad as I thought, you get some good surprises sometimes like two crits in a row.I need my Rinne and Sheli to get a bit more aspd tho, sometimes one or two succubi play before them and it lenghtens my tries
>>582432656Alabaster as always.
>>582432656idk, my bff Jill?
>>582425406after some time asking chatgpt I managed to get it runningwill report results after some time and/or if I get banned by JD
>>582421487I use makalki on the frontline to cover both the stun and confusion. It works out because he rarely rolls confusion on the same person twice.You want a party strong enough to kill him within 2 turns of his super mode just in case you whiff your 2-3 chronostasis rolls.
>>582434793Nice. I have a half-macro right now>Key 1: enter the dungeon>Key 2: move to chest, move to exit>Key 3: hit enter twice to start the chest minigameI know I can combine 1 and 2 on a single key and I am too lazy to make it a full auto macro
I dont know anything about this korean dog but its cute
>>582436921lulu when we finally find her corpse and she remembers all the bad things she did to us and we refuse to revive her
>>582436921Good oneNow post Doronarde
>>582437321a classic, made by a gwo from wizg I think
>>582437446What can JD do to make Lulu into something that memeworthy?
>>582421487spreading the options so its not reliant on 1 character to do something important>several scrolls just in case>several characters who can dissipation / malefic wind>blood edge so the boss wastes a turn every time he tries to quickdrawalso timing the phase can be the difference between smooth sailing and getting rektif you have 1 turn and he's getting close, don't hit him with a poise. defend and push at the start of the next cycle. ideally you can land a chrono2 early in it but, mostly you want to dispel the buffs before he starts taking turnsI had astral break on a thief milana before they refunded it and I liked her for that fight in front of yuzu. blood edge / astral break and then another malefic wind if I need it
The character voice lines are one of my favorite parts about this game, and there are a couple that seem to be really rare that I don't know how many people know about. Number one, each character has a unique line when you bring them up in the menu after they're in thair permanently "intoxicated" state. I don't know how many people know about this one. since you have to purposely fuck up your relicbrews to see it. The second I'm not so sure about, I was farming the black dragon for that stupid fucking hammer and I had a rough fight where afterwards three of my party were dead and the rest of us were low enough health enough to be in the red number range, and as I was moving to head out of the cave both of my alive party members said lines I hadn't heard before, one was something like I don't know if I'm gonna make it and the other was basically saying that we needed to leave are we were going to die. I'd never heard them say those lines before and if I had to guess, maybe it's because of how few fights do you actually walk away from with low heath and multiple dead party members VS you just got completely wiped or it triggers a long cutscene, does anyone else know the trigger condition for those.
>>582438215I wish we had youtube videos for each character with all their lines + unused datamined ones, like Souls games dohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoFB2bW1i0I
>>582438942Someone needs to raid JD's offices for those
>>582439687Or the seekret d*scord channel
>>582438215Light spell & dark spell voice lines are the rare, considering how hard to get skill books of them.And 3 trust stages have different voice lines for using different items on different targets or receiving items from the masked adventure. It makes the base of voice line pretty huge.I record 110 Olive's voice lines and I am sure there are at least 10 more missing.
Honestly I'm fucking amazed by this game. UI is kinda dogshit, but the game is very soulful. I doubt oldfags itt can remember, but I started today and when I was in the dungeon after tutorial I was molested by some fat fucks with knives, died (probably because I was level 1) and resurrected in town. Before I died I looted one bone in the room where I started, after returning to that room the second time I looted it again, but it turned to dust and ghost girl told me a story about time wizard who tried to dupe some jewel with his magic. Maybe it's not much, but for the gacha it's really cool imo.
>>582442518benis
>>582442518WizDaph's greatest strength is that it feels like you're playing a lost japanese PS2 game the entire time.
>>582442518I'm glad you're enjoying it anon. The game and its dungeons are great, the production value is unheard of in DRPGs.You'll enjoy the honeymoon phase for a while, the more frustrating elements of the game don't come until way later (or not at all depending on how much you want to autisticially invest time into the game).Some added advice on the beginning : keep your MC in the back row with a spear or a bow, it's not very heroic but it'll greatly help your survivability.
>>582438215think those "get me out of here" lines are if they have very low fort (red heartbreak)
>>582446564I'm not talking about the ones you get at low fort. These were lines that were said as I was walking away from the dragon boss fight area and me and the two party members left alive was at double digit health. I haven't heard these lines before or since, and I've been playing since around two month after launch.
Wow Books of Honed Ability are amazingI should have done my bounties before
>>582450715do your abyss 2 book reps and abyss 4 book reps too swo
>>582451996What are those? Surely there can't be another system I'm supposed to grind joylessly every month
>>582452169abyss 2 pope main quest gives a dmg reduction passive ability book rewardabyss 4 admiral main quest gives a slight damage/resitance passive ability bookthey are all capped at lvl1 so you need only 6 (months) for your main party
>>582452556Thanks for the explanation. I haven't even finished A4 good end so I'm safe so far
>>582452797a4 book is honestly whatever but the a2 book is OP
>>582452840What's the quickest way to farm it? Just wheel to A1 end then wheel back and kill Octo?
>>582452984i just wheel directly to a2 last arena round and kill the summoner guy+gwo afterdon't forget to set the wheel to pontiff and talk to the missing guy after you kill octonarus
>>582453906Thanks gwo I'll give it a try.Also if anyone cares, here's the result of my last 12 cyclops kill by number of attemps.5 ninjas, all attacking 4 times, sometimes with follow-up8 6 5 1 4 5 3 4 3 1 3 4 so an average of 3.91 attempts, it' fair. The trick is to have them at around 90 ASPD so you play before the succubi really
>>582454261You should just push through to the a4 good end and unlock dutz for your bounty farming. He is free as long as you have a character that can reach 90 dex with a bondmate. >>582263442Cyclops crit-fishing is extremely outdated.
>>582454645I don't think I could do that much damage desu. From what I recall reading in the thread, the strat is freezing him then eruption strike right? I don't have anyone with that kind of build rn
>>582454895>>582454895The strategy is dealing 20k and catching him before his first action. You can have up to 12 actions but lose 3 to setup (2 on dalto because he is chronostasis resistant, 1 on the rope). All you need is a party of characters who average 2k damage per attack.Eruption strike is a meme because you are only gaining about 20% from the fire-on-frozen bonus. Just use your strongest hammer/2h sword/axe/odachi for the shatter hit.
>>582410878I could never use Savia without dragoonmaxxingIt's hard to get her aspd and eva really high as a knight though it feels, at least not without sacrificing other stats
>>582455361>2 on dalto because he is chronostasis resistant
>>582455361I assure you that's more than what I can dish out atm, but thanks, I'll grind him with that in mind once we hit lvl cap 80
>>582455501>>582455501>not without sacrificing other statsLiterally just sacrifice other stats. First, her job is to just mitaigate most to all physical damage coming in. Second, BBF ignores more and more enemy defense based on the level of the skill and round tripping through thief lets her sure hit harder than most so even giving up attack her damage will be good enough and certainly good for one of your party's best shields.
this is how we do cyclops nowadays
>>582456193PWO (patient warped one) don't you get tired of clicking buttons and resting at the inn each time...?
>>582455361>Eruption strike is a meme because you are only gaining about 20% from the fire-on-frozen bonus.they changed that a while back so now the thaw damage bonus and shatter damage bonus can stack
>>582456398the auto saves between fights so i just have to rest at the inn each time and wheel which you have to do anyway
>>582456537Yeah I didn't notice right away you were on auto. That's pretty impressive.But I don't have enough damage or defense to try that probably, and I like the dopamine hits of hitting crits so far
>>582456415PAOS shatter already does 10k so you don't need the +20% on eruption strike shatter. Eruption strike also requires you to have a high surety hammer instead of just sticking with your +40 surety ragnarok.
>>582456193sheli isn't really doing anything here
>>582458741she is trying her best...
>>582458741DARKNESS
>>582413469is it actually worth it?
>>582459608me when I spread sheli's cheeks open expecting to find a pink oasis only to encounter a deep dark forest
>>582460686+12% over the claustrum if you hit the natural 4* double mag blessing.Not worth the time.
>>582461053I was repeatedly told here that Sheli had a pale elf nyanus. This general needs to get its story straight
>>582460686the staff's buff is too low for normal fire spellsonly a berka with level 7 twof gets any real use out of it
>>58246535812% is enough to make Lahalito compete with secret Laerlik which may be relevant for hp thresholds when farming the next abyss.Or JD could finally let us set PAOS/secret/Linaria ballad on auto.
>>582465874>laslop>useful for farming in a5jarvis, show this guy the mp cost and softcaps for lahalito level 3
>>582467240When enemy formations have 3 rows, I'm bringing a la-mage along because I do not trust auto to aim katino or MoF properly.
Just passively farm tokens with the dispatch and cash them in for junk.ezpz
Are we back? Rise again.
>>582475165did everyone get 403?
>>582478285Yes.
What's your favorite place to quickly get generics up to 30 for bondmate conversion?
>>582481548Church grounds + route 10, or 3 days of A4 dailies.
>>582481548I just feed them low grade EXP books.I have enough just sitting around at this point.
When is the anni shit supposed to start anyway? Next month some time?
I'm not sure if this is causing me to fail to get a third trip on dispatches, or my numbers are just too low (13152 power)>Marianne has been dispatched for a week with no staffI guess that explains the heal spam.
>>582489065Anni is like 10/20 or something. I don't even know what to expect at this point. This fucking game is soul crushing with its gacha. Other games are giving hundreds of pulls for anni and I would be shocked if they give up a tenner and a random launch legendary. Shit even a free 100 pulls and a free spark on the anni banner is just a drop in the bucket if you really want to invest. F2poor it's impossible to go past d2 and roll more than once a year.
>>582491003you inherited treatment to gillion?... why?
>>582492426NTA, but fighters can use staves, so giving them dios or treatment lets them act as pocket priests in a pinch.
>>582492426nta but treatment is samurai's best heal option
>>582492426Don't you think Camille looks good enough to eat? :)
>>582492426I thought it would let him and MC samurai do some healing. It is pretty weak in battle (~150 iirc) but that is enough for out of battle heals in a dungeon.
Now that half the thread has rolled Linaria, we're all skipping 2nd anni right?
>>582496996I only roll for evil characters and there's no way they're doing two evil anniversaries in a row, so it's a skip from me, yeah.Holding out for Halloween Shelly/Viviana.
>chests arent showing up after I wheeled back for the monthly respawns, 32 days since I did them>even the faction quest rewards get dusted>only the A1 bones get refreshed properlyI'm so sick of this lol like should I just send an email to drecom.
>>582496996I am rollan as long as it's a cute girlI'm a simple gwo
>>582498690You need to wheel to certain nodes in A2 A3 and A4 to respawn their respective chests, which seem to change based on myths and whimsy, so just figure out which ones yourselfAlso it's 3 to 5 weeks respawn so you might be on the shitty end of it still, even if you do it right
>>582496996>rolling brickariaWe are phillychads actually.
>>582296428
>>582499167me on the left
>>582499068guess I'll check in a week or something but I already sent an inquiry to drycumI just want to max out my golden gloves ffs
what's stopping me from forcing phillycheesecake to give every damage dealer aids? I guess the turns would be a little delayeddamn you JD for nerfing aspd
>>582499239They will not tell you shit. Just wheel to the 1st node in A4 and back to the end, 2nd node and back, 3rd etc until you see some have respawned (check for more than one in case some are on the 33-35 day timer) then mentally note which node it was for next time so you can be surprised when it changes for no reason thanks to JD's spaghetti coding
>>582499239Which chest is supposed to be the fixxed gold mimic again?
>>582499167this is fucking sovl
>>582499167Would we have a better chance of getting through the dungeons if we had hanyuu instead of lulu as our tulpa?
>>582499167ojisan on the left has a ghoul cock stench that would instantly make any girl have hearts in their eyesor throw up
>>582501535I feel like our chances would honestly get worse, but at least she would encourage us, unlike Lulu.
For bondmate farming does the element of the lv5s you put on the would-be bondmate matter? The jap wiki says it does but no where else mentions it. Did it matter for gwos who did it?
>>582460686I think so. Mages need every damage boost they can get. Both of my fire mages are also Good which gives them an extra boost from Anemone and Lanavaille, so Asha might be able to push 1000 damage on Lahalito with it.
they made off with all your bait quite cleanly
Shh... don't wake her up...
>>582503660As far as we know there is no benefit to matching elements, which is weird because there's clearly a glowing effect for matching element bondmates so they're supposed to do SOMETHING.
>last year anni>1 leggo bone selector>20 ish anni boner u xcited
>>582506243Better than nyo nyontents I guess
>>582506243Cant wait to grab galbussyand 20 elfpri
>>582506243we had 1 selector and 2 random leggos+20 bones on top of thatalso RNG codex rewards
>>582506787>2 random leggosyou'll get a debra and gerulf anywaysI did
>>582506851Debunya is nice fodder and more dupes for the one I forever try to brute force into not being shit. Holy fuck is theif a brick.
>>582506851i got red brick and an unwashed benis
really want a saviaa Dragoon Thief midriff wolfussy is really tempting yet I never got her
>>582507058Gwo you're supposed to Knight Debnya...
>>582507769Goddamn look at those thighs
>>582507769>>582508218imagine the buttjob
>>582508279>have savia gf>try and playfully slap her butt>she evades and dragoonjumps directly onto your dick, shattering your pelvis
>>582508896Nice!
if they send no grade adventurers to rescue the king and deal with greater warped ones, what the fuck are orichalcum grade adventurers doing?
>>582510012same shit but they cost more.
>>582510012Banging footpads in the valeon hills
>>582206703the fishing calculator has been taken down because someone from the Netherlands launched a DDoS attack on it
>>582508113Knyigger is only useful for knyigger defense and anyone can do that. I'd rather brute force her into a dps role.
>>582510012Fishing
>>582510880knight can do pretty good dps at this point
>>582512584you cannot be serious
>>582499167kino
>>582510761nyoooooooooooooI wanted to clear a bit of the fish shop on my off day...
>crucible junk 9 times in a rowGetting sick of your shit, JD.
>>582512603Guardian Blow gold maiden is as strong as any non-WotT fighter but you need to be against an enemy that>can be hit with surety>low enough HP that Debra will not run out of SP
mah
fishdev fix your site pls
>apparently my Alice has gorrilia STR that breaks daphne checkerHuh. Shame she doesn't have a class that can use it.
>>582530164read the thread
>>582530601>the fishing calculator has been taken downok>because someone from the Netherlands launched a DDoS attack on itbut hwhy
>>582530709i infiltrated the trannycord to tell you that i have no idea
>>582530176Time to get bonking whit a front row alice armed whit a 2h mace
>>582531648one of us??? >>582422095 >>582422095 >>582422095
>>582531648das crazyis that the fasterthoughts trannycord or another one just for the fish site
>>582530709The D*tch have been waging a war against the water and all that live in it for centuries.It’s simply expanded onto a new frontier in this era of cyber-fishing.
>>582517562>Guardian Blow gold maidenWould you not simply use gold maiden's inherit for the extra surety damage?
>>582532159>drecom ends support for german language>a few days later the only thing that's helping people with the dogshit fishing system that's tied to real life fishing gets taken downim noticing
>>582531723The sad part is even with "abnormal" STR growth it's still only 60 at level 70. Twiggy elf arms can't melt steel golems.
>>582532332Gold Maiden’s soft caps seem pretty low.
>>582532508well, it can be an excuse to do Evil Front row and Good Back row, using Lana whit a bow (lol)(Lmao)
is yeka just the best for mindless auto farmingfor no chance of ambushes
>>582532904she is really good in general, and the ambush thing does trigger a lot yes.
>>582532904You can just inherit a few levels to your masketta man since Yeka herself is a bit of a dead slot for auto farming unless you gear her as a muscle priest.
>>582532904https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/tools/ambush-calculator/
Any tips on getting a medium size demon eel? I only have access to Rabbit Strips. I am following the guide, but all I get are whoppers and occasionally a small eel. There is one nibble I can't get, which is when the bobbers sinks for a few seconds, at least two or three times, but none of these snag it.
one of us needs to have sex with Lulu's english voice actort and post abyss 5 leaks
>>582533337>>582533383>>582533519thanks for the link I guess inheriting some levels to masketta and some of my regular units is the way to go if I dont want to use her.
>>582533639You are tensing the line to check for the real bite right? Just raise the rod slightly and the tip of the rod will bend. When it bends down hard that's your cue. Thin line attracts them more but they are quite tricky to reel in so you might want the normal or thick one until you are comfortable with it.
>>582533893When the hell did they add this??Man the web team's putting in work lately.
>>582532332For a knight, defense+surety is an easy investment, and it fulfills her personal skill to boost surety damage further.If you want an attack+eva character, use a ninjato ninja.
>>582204031From a 1986 Famitsu magazine I was reading a bit ago.
>>582533519>The skill effectiveness for Yekaterina and others has been estimated after extensive testing
i have lvl 2 of yeka's skill on my MC and it still activates a lot. i'm getting it to lvl 3.
>>582538439>>582539241https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/mechanics/passive-skills/obviously data minedi refuse to believe anyone is retarded enough to level fucking Mysta Energy Manipulation to level 7
>>582532508>60Wow, what an abnormal freak.
>>582539552For a couple of them they say "Uhh... we leveled to 5 and then extrapolated the last two levels from there" so whatever.
>Wizardry x MarvelHappy Halloween?
>>582539492Keep going. It's NEVER a bad investment. More detect is always good.>>582539552Man that's not even one of the worst ones. Priest Weapon mastery will be even shittier until we have pie values over 180.
>>582540201We actually did do that for some of them, before data mining was a thing, so that might just be an outdated bit of text. A lot of passives turned out to be strictly linear at all levels.
>We
>>582541003Behold a small portion of my old testing data.Turns out 500 samples wasn't enough to get very good accuracy, but live and learn.
>>582541416post these sheets
>>582541770The skill values are all on the wiki I think. "Monthly respawn values" isn't what you think it is, it's just me compiling the maximum stats for the monthly respawn equipment. Which should also be on the wiki. I actually only spent like an hour doing it before i realized they ALL SUCK.
>>582542465so what's the super secret stuff you are not sharing?
>>582542465>The skill values are all on the wiki I think
>>582542465gib datamined nyontentsNYOW
>>582542465KOT HIM DOWN
>>582510761How do you actually determine when Large Fish are worth going for without the site?
>>582543436Well nothing's supposed to be super secret that I know of. If I get yelled at, oh well.Here's what I've got. Keep in mind that we don't really know the formula these values plug in to or what a lot of them even do. And this spreadsheet was always meant for my personal reference so it doesn't have everything.For active skills, we BELIEVE that "rate" is the skill multiplier. It's different for 1h and 2h weapons. They also have an effective attack power softcap for 1h and 2h weapons, and a spillover damage value which can be 0 in some cases.It's most noticeable with SPELLS, which have a magic softcap of 100 at lv1 (i've mentioned this before) and that's why magic damage sucks ass.
>>582542465NYOPEN UP THIS IS THE NYOLICE
>>582544979One of the weirder things I've found very recently, Parallel Break appears to be literally broken. There's data for parallel break lv2 which uses magic power, has a rate of 50, and has a softcap of 300. But Parallel Break Lv1 is set to use NOTHING and has a rate of ZERO.
>>582545316>no one uses anything other than Chronostasis on Chronostasis Man in order to figure this out for two yearsbelievable
>>582544979I couldn't get it all in one screenshot.This is just stuff I personally was interested in, so a lot of skills aren't here.>>582545475No we all knew it sucked. Debuffs and status effects have a base strength value that does ??????? in addition to scaling off of some stat or another.Anyway keep in mind these are my personal notes, not something meant for public review, so they're incomplete and kind of coded in a few cases.
>>582544979There is so much information in this that I would have loved to have known earlier. Even at max level defensive provoke has a lower taunt chance and taunt strength than even inherited BBF. Cry of Ruin actually inherits pretty decently with the cap value at level 3 being almost 92% of Gillion's. Way of the Knight values are here at all where there's just an actual blank space on the guide.
https://x.com/shimatch/status/2103867246208758061?s=20
>>582546008So the thing with knight stuff. Don't take those values at face value. Take NOTHING here at face value.There's a value for "intelligence" that we don't understand. It doesn't refer to the stat, it refers to a monster category. All monsters appear to be sorted into 3 levels of intelligence, and this appears to affect some aggro management skills. No idea how or if I'm even right.
>>582546257
>>582546267Even if the values are hazy, there's important stuff to glean. Just seeing what values don't change at all informs where I want to spend skill books and frankly makes me regret some I've already spent, regardless of final calculated values.
>>582547150Yeah. But I really want to emphasize that the reason I (and I assume the fasterthoughts team though we don't directly talk about the wiki much) have been hesitant to post this stuff is because a lot of this is GUESSWORK. Like I think the wiki swaps the ninja dual wield values from what I have because they understand the skill differently? All we see is Param_1 through 4 and some numbers, we have to guess at what they actually do.
>>582544979you discord trannies are alright in my bookthis general made me believe that you were hoarding information for yourselves and only feeding the public dribbles
>>582547393>this general made me believe that you were hoarding information for yourselves and only feeding the public dribblesThis has historically been true. Spreadsheet anon is breaking a tradition that goes back pretty far.
>>582547393I dunno what they're doing honestly. Like the yeka calculator is totally new information to me, I had no idea that was there. I get the data files from them, and occasionally drop in to give input on something I found when I look for it, that's about it. In most cases they've already beaten me to it because they've got a claude subscription.
Seeing poison tick for 1 will never get old.
>>582547495I've been here since the start, I just thought they'd be faster at posting active skills since that's what people seem to be most interested in and they're able to vet the data better than me (probably?). Though i do think they should have warned people how irredeemably awful Rise from Ashes is.
Does anyone know the noombers for Phily's skill inherited? On herself I know it's around 20% from what people tested
>>582544979>>582545717making 3 copies of this on both of my PCs and I am shipping my laptop off to a safe location
I'm not reading that image for ants. What legendary inherit are we dumping our 100k gems on the next time it is available?
>>582548554I don't think I have ever inflicted poison in this game. Would be nice if they buffed mages and also let phys dps skills that do ailments/debuffs actually hit without being lvl 5 and taking 80 SP.
>>582549336Nope. I haven't updated my copy of the forbidden tomes but from what I'm reading in the discord, it's a very complex skill and they're not sure how it actually works at all yet.
>>582548880>they should have warned people how irredeemably awful Rise from Ashes is.Is it? Genuine question. Like neither Madios nor Kinapic are on your sheet to compare to and of course neither you nor I know if rate or heal param has a bigger impact on the final heal and one of those is certainly closer to dios than the other, but again single target heals are stronger IIRC so comparing to Dios instead of Madios isn't 1:1 anyway. I didn't pull Iroha so I truly don't know how "bad" RfA is, but I want to assume it has some use if you can get to reasonable Div levels without the use of a staff.
>>582550440dangI love using the base version, it's such a fun skill
>>582550440Do you have updated astral break now that the aspd buff increases with level? And did they lower the accuracy despite the description saying otherwise?
>>582550074nothing seems to stand out besides ESS and hue but everyone knew that alreadyseems like a nothingburger tbqfhwy senpai
>>582550537Fug. I did look at KINAPIC briefly but must not have written it down. KINAPIC is roughly twice as strong, and MADIOS has the same values as DIOS. DIOS was actually solved before data mining was a thing because it's so simple, and that's actually part of what led to our understanding of how the data is structured. The people who do manual testing of things are NOT wasting their time by any means.>>582550648Uhhhh I can look it up. My copy is from July 30th lmao. When did they update Astral again?
>>582549336In my own testing and in looking at screenshots on both the english and japanese sides of the internet I have seen increases of less than 20% and more than 40% from a full red flower at level 1 but also in one case like a 15% gain maybe at high level . There is fucky stuff going on with it but I'm thinking it has a high boost value but it softcaps the damage that gets added on to a skill? There's also fuckery in the same way all "damage" boost skills (as opposed to "attack" boost skills) where they have a flat damage buff component meaning they give more value the higher the number of hits and also they give more value on attacks that scale from multiple stats. There's no just simple X% answer like a Lana or Alice passive.
Is it even possible to get all the debuff removal on Phylissia? I guess I can use MC and Abenius for now if Phyl is my only healer?
>>582551495You can get her cures from poison and skill bind which are the important ones generally and let MC handle the rest. Just make her faster and put up incense against everything else
>>582552086yeah I kinda forgot about incense. I always worry it would run me out of SP but you don't even use it other than bosses. She really isn't made for auto, not like any backline priest/healer really is. She is obviously so broken for boss fights though. Im surprised we aren't seeing more lvl 7 skill whale reports from her.
>>582544979>>582545717post the data for all around coveri want to know the luck value and skill level combination that makes the chance to cover hit 100
>>582550537>I want to assume it has some use if you can get to reasonable Div levels without the use of a staff.It's there, if you squint. Kinapic can't be cast outside of combat, so to go into a fight with resistance you'd have to use something like Latumofis level 2 on everyone 1 by 1 so you're saving your priest 18MP by using Iroha, more if you took a couple of dings you need to top off on your way to that fight and no longer need to Dios away. In a fight like Bigfoot where there's like 5 status effects trying to get through and your priest/mc need to use their turns to cleanse, having Iroha keep resistance up so you actually can get ahead of the debuffs can be nice. IDK, I can't really think of any situation where someone would be saying "Thank GOD I have Rise from Ashes" but singling it out among all the skills and spells in the game as irredeemable seems a bit much.
>>582552759NTA but I would assume it's the same formula as All Cover.
>>582553764It's not. The skill description of All-Around calls out a luck component the others don't.
>>582551015I think astral break was sept 3, a week before sovereign demon.
>>582550648Ok i checked it. The only change is hit rate went from 30 to 50. So yes it's more accurate. It's not on there but it's slightly less accurate than heavy attack at 55 now.>>582552759That's not on there? Damn that's something I want to know too hold on.
>>582544979>>582545717Please post Galb inherit numbers, thank you.
I know I am late to this but what blessing did you gwos alter on the relic bow and into what?
>>582554386I got rid of Aspd for surety
>>582554386Depends on how fast you are/need to be but I'd give up ASPD or maybe an ATK slot for more ACC, assuming you're giving it to a ranger which is where it will have the biggest impact.
>>582554971Thoughts on aspd -> sur just to keep it fairly usable for ranger and others? Or is an extra acc line just way too good for a ranger to pass up, I use my yuzu as a ranger cause no needle
>>582554835thisI'm not as free as some other anons who have a bow for every situation, like thief/fighter/ranger, so the catch-all solution is always the best
Speaking of relics, how do I get attestations of transcendence? I'm a latelet to the collab unfortunately
>>582555260kill the purple monsters, hope they drop them, or fight the 6 black demons in a row and hope they drop them too
>>582555142Attack number times 0.5 plus accuracy number times 1.5 equals ranger attack so accuracy is a very big deal for rangers, especially since something like the Strength+ trait is doing much less for them. The bow passives are all about increasing accuracy which means it doesn't do much extra for a thief or fighter anyway, so I would encourage you to lean into your strengths rather than shore up your weaknesses, but SUR is never a bad stat so it's a choice between two good options.>>582555256Whatever works, works. I don't think you bricked your account or anything but personally I would just make the thief sneak attack and give the fighter a spear. WotW doesn't affect bows anyway.
I hope they give that relic dungeon rate ups every once in a while. Otherwise the content is deader than dead.
>>582553764>>582553913Well this one's a bit mysterious actually but here's the numbers. Luck scaling seems to cap at 30 luck which is weird but not terribly uncommon. Like just looking at the numbers you'd think it was worse than all cover but if you use it, it clearly isn't. So this is one of those where we dont' have the whole story just from the numbers we can see.No idea what any of the Param_s are. The chance to defend is an entirely separate effect that does not scale.
>>582555908Those encounters in the 4th floor still drop attestations or fragments?
>>582556225your fishing fwo?
>>582555909You convinced me
>>582554282Man y'all asking for the complicated ones. Give me a sec, I don't have a claude subscription i gotta comb through this shit by hand.
>>582556225the nyontents are the dataminers posting skill values in the threadit's the biggest nyontent drop since a4
>>582556225there was 2 weeks ago the relic rate up, did you miss it?
Is the next OP going to be about the data mining leaks or the Dutch fish wars?
>>582555908fuck i meant 8 demons>>582556316They can still drop them, its just really low so its probably better to only kill the notorious purples every day
>>582557328>have to rely on the D*tch for nyontentsit's nyover
>>582557794The Dutch were caught stealing the content which is why they need to be cut off from the Internet.
we could have a pretty good divegrass team if someone could be fucked to do it>Benis>AGORAAAAAA>pale elf anus>underage ghost>masketta>new adventurer (shadow of gerulf)>nyontents>he took them both>gwo/swo>asha's ashas>literally me (iarumas)>beastfucker69 (guaneposting)>The Dutch fishing cartel (new!)>JD
>>582558440BTDE gwo forgotten...
>>582558781BTDE gwo was forgotten by both JD and us
>>582556290thanksnow please post prishe's hundred fists data and abyssal strike's datai wanna see how hundred fist's wt buff changes with each level and how abyssal strike compares to stun bash when inherited>>582558440ben the fishmen killer... forgotten
>>582559201>how abyssal strike compares to stun bashStun bash stun chances is based on defense, while abyssal strike stun chances scales on attack, so the values are going to be pretty hard to compare
>>582554282Ok this is one of those they needed claude to figure out. Shit's convoluted as fuck and I'm not even sure I'm reading this crap correctly so I'm gonna go off what someone else said and hope i'm reading THAT right.It appears that raging king gets +20% damage *rate* per hit taken, +10% if you dodged, up to 5 stages (Raging King I through FURY). So at lv1 it would go from 216 to 316 at FURY. If I'm reading the files right, the step up values are the same for both versions.Fun fact there are values for voice cues for both avoiding and getting hit at different stages, but none for the inherited version.TLDR there is practically no inherit penalty for Raging King. Go nuts.
>>582558440We had model rips not that long ago, so someone would just have to figure out how to rig them for PES.
>>582556290Param_3 is how much of the attack damage goes to the knight. There will one day be a skill where that value is 50 and half the incoming damage will go to the knight and half will stay on the original target(s). Source? I made it up, but it seems plausible enough that I am no nearly as curious as I am about Param_1 and _2
>>582559785>>582545717>>582544979>>582542465i figured out who you are on the discord based on your linguisticsdon't worry I won't rat you out but you should really change your style of speaking when posting on 4chan. there are dead giveaways like word capitalization, use of certain punctuation marks and preferred vocabulary even something like a tldr makes you really easy to pinpoint since there are not that many people who use this phrase with all the other things combined.i think i may have a talent for this even though Iim ESL. could probably get a pretty well paying job if i wasnt a useless piece of shit neet
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>>582562050Oh no, the discord's glowie found us out!Quick, hide the kots!
