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old >>582412190

>What is Wardogs?
A planetside/battlefield/arma/tarkov/squad-like with 3 teams and 100 players, from the developers of such classic and beloved titles as Battlion and Killrun

Launch Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQnZgZCIo8
Season 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rdbnh8P0T0
10 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkuP4a3xk4
Anti-Cheat Info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YpSHod0FA

Helpful Links:
https://wardogs.zone/
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ded general
ded game
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>>582657930
How does your UI still have the enemy markers on them when you're not scoped in with the viewfinder?
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First for better dead than red
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>>582662792
He is placing his own mark with middle mouse button.
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>>582662997
>He is placing his own mark with middle mouse button.
Thanks anon, that makes sense
I thought maybe I missed a UI option somewhere
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The dev doesn't want you to know this, but if you want to level medic fast, go find a friend, buy yourself a large backpack, a defib and something like 20 batteries. Go walk around friendly FoB until you find some barbed wire. Tell your friend to walk into the friendly barbed wire and die. Defib him. He'll die instantly because he was standing on barbed wires. Defib him again. For every minute you get like 8000 medic xp. Bonus point for some retard engineer on your team losing 10k every minute because of team kill.
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>>582663751
there are diminishing returns each time you rez the same player
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>>582663751
you will also get your medic level reset because of exploits like this
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>>582664056
That kind of exploit is disgustingly simple for an AI to find and flag for action
And we know they use AI for data analysis, which is exactly what it's best at
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>>582663751
>the fobbit wondering why his bank accounti s getting raped
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The dev doesn't want you to know this, but if you want to level assault fast, for find a friend, buy youself a gun, and something like 80 bullets. Go walk around the enemy FoB until you find some enemy players. Tell your friend to walk into the enemy players and die. Shoot the enemy. He'll die instantly because he was getting shot with bullets. Shoot the enemy again. For every minute you like 8000 assault xp. Bonus point for some retard engineer on the enemy team gaining 10k every minute because he keeps killing your friend.
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>>582664516
I wonder what the AI tells them about cheater videos like this. He sounds pretty carefree and unabashed about cheating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Qv9s8calM
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>>582665621
why would he care or be ashamed? cheaters buy cheap keys off keysites and they don't give a shit if theyre banned. Just buy a new account, perhaps even already leveled up, and continue shitting up the game for everyone else
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>>582662594
>A planetside
only similarity is 3 teams, feature many games have
>battlefield
only one that's even remotely close
>arma
let's not kid ourselves.
>tarkov
Only the inventory system is similar^
>squad-like
lmao
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>>582666556
let's hear your description then
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>>582666556
You can absolutely do a similar base building thing in planetside
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Do devs really need to be told about the Asia problem every time a game is released?
You would think that by now after years and years of the same complaint against gook cheaters being made that they would region lock Asia by default
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>>582666686
battlefield but extra team with semi-persistent economy.
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>>582666556
>>582667721
Honestly the blue "team" may as well not even be there.
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>>582666686
arma koth with less shit, worse balancing and even more retarded players
that will be 40$ + tip
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Sometimes I put my gun away and run around in the enemy team bases, talking to them until they realize I'm not on their side. It usually takes them at least a minute.
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>>582667707
>U.S. Government coded post
>U.S. Government coded titty girl
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>>582667707
>see Chinese player in NA server
>follow him
>mic spam "tsao nee ma"
>mic spam "Jungua ren shee jye jye"
Profit??
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>>582668676
>U.S. Government coded titty girl
Wait, if I work for the US government, I can get my own titty girl?
Or did I misunderstand you?
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>>582668676
seething chink
>>582668945
i know the first one is fuck your mother
but whats the second one mean?
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>>582666556
this. remove the fucking planetside tag from this game. this meme of this game being like planetside came from retarded hype bullshit. we will never get a proper planetside 3
>>582666850
the basebuilding shit was part of the downward spiral that the game was never able to recover from. i can count on one hand how many fights i had in a player base that didnt involved an armored platoon dismantling the base piece by piece.
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>>582665621
>"#1 tip: don't look at them!"
>his game looks atrocious
>talks as if he's applying any sort of skill to the game
>these are the faggots you are up against
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>>582669937
>i can count on one hand how many fights i had in a player base that didnt involved an armored platoon dismantling the base piece by piece.
Sounds just like wardogs.
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>>582668676
kys chink
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>>582668632
There should be handcuffs that lets you take enemies hostage and bring them back to your base where you can put hostages into a cage prefab and each enemy captured counts toward your team's progress but you need to keep the cage stocked up with special food supplies else the hostages starve.
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>>582669286
Chinese people is sister (GAY)
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Selling guns to people lets you top score everytime, but the actual profit isn't that big. No effort, though.
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how is the indian problem?
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>>582673557
>how is the indian problem?
There really isn't one.
There's no hatchets in the game, and the bow and arrow aren't that powerful
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>try OP pistol in range
>can kill T3 before i can blink at a good distance
seems fine no need to patch before S2
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>>582673557
indians problem is solved by having a 40$ price tag
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>humvee with a c4 rushes our fobs
>spawn with an rpg
>first shot noclips through its front and the gunner rapes me
>get revived while the vee does a circle
>shoot at its back with another rpg
>it shrugs it off like nothing and the gunner just swerves back and bangs me through the wall
How?
Like, what the fuck more this game expects me to do to counter a light vehicle? You can't even shoot the gunner out, i tried to from the back and couldnt hit him.
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>>582663751
>switch teams/servers until you find one with your entire team in the hotzone
>watch as the enemy arty kills someone every second
>get $2400 for the revive and $2000 for the heal and $500 for stimming them
>20 people giving you assists
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>>582659847
i don't understand why these retards don't disable snapping and just manually curve the walls to cover the gap
then again, these are the tower fobbits, the absolute lowest rung of fobbit specimen, so
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>>582665621
based cheater chad
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>>582669937
planetside 2 wasn't even a proper planetside
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>>582667707
Im on oce and we had a dev turn up in our game. Booted a cheater and talked shit with us. Was good, high hopes for the game. Hoping we get some more bangers!
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I am not some "cheater" nor a "troll". Those require shame, concealment, and the desperate little luxury of plausible deniability. I assure you, I am the real deal.

People like me are why anti-cheat exists. We are the abrasive surface that forces the machine to evolve. Without pressure, you're sacred “fair play” ecosystem would still be a ceremonial padlock on a cardboard door.

I am the ugly little variable that keeps your sacred “fair play” machine from rusting into ceremonial garbage. We shift the arms race. Architecture, inference, hardware, and invisibility.

Ring0? I live -2, below the kernel, below your assumptions, below the part of the machine you still think is the ceiling.

I’ve been in this scene for over 25 years, long enough to remember dragging .pk3 files into folders and launching through GameSpy Arcade like we were committing cybercrime from a lunchbox. I’ve worn both hats. I’ve played cat and mouse from both sides of the fence.

You are an average consumer with a forum account, a moral speech, and just enough vocabulary to mistake outrage for insight.

Am I proud?

Absolutely.

I have made money you would not know how to invoice, released projects that patch around concepts they pretended were impossible, and seen entire communities confuse “I don’t understand it” with “it cannot exist”

So yes, keep clutching pearls. The ecosystem does not run on purity. It runs on pressure, failure, escalation, patch notes, and people like you confusing ignorance with impossibility because the alternative would require admitting you are just an audience member with a steam account.
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>green
>grab rpg and a bag of shells
>drive a big circle around the map to get to the back line of the red drill fob
>stumble upon blue arty tank firing from the top of a hill
>hop off the bobcat and slowly sneak up to it
>have to get really close before I get an angle to fire
>fire one shot
>hear footsteps while reloading
>get blasted by a naked guy with a double barrel
>feel retarded for not looking for a guard
>arty tank explodes to a pipe bomb giving me an assist
>realise the shotgunner was red
>still amazed at the coincidence in timing
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played with a gril and she talked to me over VC
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>>582665621
So this is how the nigger who hits me 3 times across the map with an AK in 0.2ms sounds like.
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>>582674460
>rpg
Noobtrap. RPG is a joke weapon like the starter sniper.
>what am I supposed to do about light vehicles
Actually humvees are superheavy tanks. You are supposed to get farmed for epic tiktok montages.
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>>582680151
I just make a stingray out in no mans land.
Fuck hiking 20 minutes just to get thermal cucked by a camper bot. Bonus points when I make a double trip for supplies beckause the blue team bought FOUR FUCKING SPGs!
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>>582662775
dead orbit needs your help, guardian
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>>582679343
in planetside 2 i could make a fresh character and walk up to a vehicle terminal and spawn a mbt so long as i have nanites that replenish over time. i remember rerolling trial accounts in ps1 and spending all day driving around a vanguard so it wasnt hard to pull armor then either. you cant do that in this game due to the obscene levels of grinding required. that is my point. you can argue that ps2 strayed from the formula of 1 and i would agree completely but both 1 and 2 offered far more freedom of what you can do than this game, not to mention the scale of the continents and the battles themselves. its why comparing wardogs to planetside can only be done genuinely if youve never actually played planetside. someone mentioned that 900 player servers are lostech and i believe it.
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>>582667707
i'm fairly certain the primary culprit is chinks, not gooks
don't tell me you're a low-level racist
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>>582681745
you can't get server performance good enough for an fps that large without making most calculations client side which planetside did and planetside 2 used to do. in the first planetside you could cheat with cheat engine, it was hilariously easy to do. in the planetside 2 you could edit files to make people's heads 10 times bigger if you wanted or any hit box bigger and it was totally undetected until they made those calculations client side, causing terrible performance on the servers from then on
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>>582680974
humvees are useless unless your team also controls the air
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Thermal spotters can be balanced by making them unable to spot at all, they'll become a useful tool for high level recons for finding people to shoot amidst foliage but we won't have entire teams afking on hills/fobs just perma spotting and people selling infrared crates in base every game.

nor will people be worried that they are permanently marked on the enemy team's maps if they aren't hiding in a fob.
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>>582683367
yes this is the same conclusion I came to
the battery is also a good idea but then remove the ghillie immunity
this puts them in the counter-sniper and info tool niche without dominating the infantry combat
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>>582682748
>humvees are useless unless your team also controls the air
Good thing humvees can't be used to rape fobbits and prevent anti air from being set up.
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The funny thing is this game takes inspiration from planetside/battlefield/arma/tarkov/squad and yet as a game it doesn't hold a candle to any of them. Even the shitstain that is Planetside 2 is well above this game and its horrendous maps and balancing.
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simple econ+incentive fix: get money when a target you kill gives up and respawns
now you get extra money for pushing as a team, taking space, and winning fights
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>>582685494
>wtf this early access game isnt immediately balanced on "release"?
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>>582685837
good idea
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I love how the devs knew that they had to restrict attack choppers to 20 points else it would be impossible to build FoBs, but you still can just buy a little bird and have a guy with a grenade launcher on it to farm the entire enemy team as they try to build an FoB
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Is there a way to buy boxes without having to buy a vehicle? Or do you necessarely need to buy a vehicle if you want to drop stuff in base for your team
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>>582686567
at least you can slap them out of the air with rpg/maaws

meanwhile you can buy arty at the very beginning and personally decide which team gets the early game momentum
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Do boomers actually that this kind of self-deprecation is a good look?
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>>582686762
a free unlocked kodiak periodically spawns
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>>582686904
>your gonna know what we are doing
Wipe is in 2 weeks and we don't know what they are doing about balance, progression, cheat protection.
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>win as blue solely because red did something to piss off some heli autist and he and his buddy spent the entire game raping them in havocs/rocket birds while we just drill spammed and only a small handful of green tried to do anything about it
Ok then.
>>582686904
When it works it is a good one but these fags have to put in the work first.
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>>582685494
Why are you still playing every new battlefield lol
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>>582687638
Lol
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>>582686904
>MY LIVE SERVICE GAME WILL WITHER AND DIE BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE DESIGNED IT THAT WAY
this nigger is so pretentious it's embarassing.
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>>582686904
This retard can't even do a balance patch after two weeks. Get the fuck off shitter.
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>>582688671
>live service games dying is a bad thing
since when did /vg/ become /corpo/
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>>582688671
he has a dogshit attitude but he's correct
absolute retard gamers scream about declining player count but it happens to literally every single game
i have less respect for gamers than i have for this prick
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>>582686567
rpgs are pretty good against little birds
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>>582688671
darktide is live service and is sitting comfy on 5k but i dont see people dooming about that
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>>582686904
steamsharties are the most OBSESSED retards in the world.
imagine having your fun tied to a magic number.
even if the game drops to fucking 50k that's still fucking top 20 games on steam, retards somehow think that it's possible for a game to maintain its launch hype numbers let alone have it go upwards lmao.
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>>582686904
>youre going to know what we're doing
Lol. Meme all you want about Linux, Linux players had no warning that they were going to all of a sudden pivot to a kernel anticheat that refuses Linux connections despite the first playtest working fine. The only way people found out was through a Discord post made in the game's general chat that moves quickly so a lot of people didn't see it until a screencap was posted on reddit and steam forums, and then they only posted an official statement after people bitched incessantly. And even then, they kept the statement vague as fuck to where some people believed that they would have the anticheat configured by the EA release. This dude is a fucking joke.
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>>582685494
Playing wardogs just makes me wish for planetside 3.
>>582687638
It takes a while for claude to finish the patch notes, OK?
>>582692483
The less players the game has, the more efficient the monetization must be. The p2w microtransaction slop will only get worse as the playercount decreases
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>>582694125
>The p2w microtransaction slop will only get worse
this implies it is non-zero

pure speculation
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>>582694125
>p2w microtransaction slop will only get worse
Retard
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>>582685248
If you don't have aa setup by 20 points you fucked up
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>>582662594
Remove the artillery shell camera, Brammer.
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>>582694443
>>582694515
mark my words
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>>582694579
This is something more fobbits need to understand. The priority for FoB building is:
>Walls
>Mortars
>AA
You NEED to have the AA up and running by 20 points, else you will get raped by rocket little birds. Mortars only come before because the team who builds the first mortars can severely slow down the other team's building pace.
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>>582694748
They stated several times they wouldn't. If they do, that literally makes everyone eligible for a refund by Steam policies due to broken documented dev promises.
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>>582692483
Darktide is a coop PvE hordeclicker. You can drop in and play for a few weeks anytime at any experience level. Poopsock nolifers actively make onboarding easier for new players.
Wardogs is a PvP team based shooter. Poopsock nolifers make the game miserable for new players, creating a snowball effect of casuals leaving resulting in only nolifers. When the neet losers are stuck in a game with no seals to club they quit themselves. 5k will be generous if they don't make serious balance changes.
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>>582694579
You can spawn a humvee at 0 points.
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Unpopular opinion: every floor should have enterable rooms in the apartment buildings.
This would greatly increase their value as FOB locations, and add extra incentive to bring direct-fire obstacle reduction options like the RPG and MAAWS.
This would need to be accompanied by improved destructibility (especially the stairwell roof).
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>>582695001
>Poopsock nolifers actively make onboarding easier for new players
they do in wardogs too. people are still learning to fill crates with lategame shit for noobs to buy in spawn
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>>582695492
Leveling driving from zero means delivering crates in a Kodiak without being raped by a backlining rocket LB.
Leveling support from zero means fobbiting without being pissed on by minigun humvees, artillery, havocs, LBs, or T4 antifobbit deathsquads.
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how the teams feel on europe east aka the Oops, All Russians server
>green
annoying tryhards with no morals that don't give a shit about helping you. Would sell their own grandma for 5 bucks.
>red
complete bros just helping you for the love of the game, refuses to build a fob or do logi, just a swarm of 33 niggas doing sovlfull HZ-chazing.
>blue
blue
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>>582697453
Should give kill credit
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>>582686904
>connection with players
In reality, their communication and openness with the community has plummeted since release. Would it kill him to tell us what changes are coming in season 2 or at the very least why they refuse to do a mid-season patch? The most important changes are the fucking costs of certain items which has to be a 10 minute change tops.
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>>582693047
COVID/crypto/gambling spawned millions of chartfags
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>>582642453
>you're left with lobbies full of Mildads and zoomers
and what alternatives do you propose?
caffeinated hyper-sweats like Tarkov and Siege?
75 IQ niggers and litteral children like CoD and Fortnite?
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>>582696242
every game always has abandoned urals lying around you can use. personally i got my friend to buy me one and after that one game i could buy my own and get driver + support xp no problem
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>>582698368
he would have got money for it if he let a missile loose before it crashed
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>>582665621
Banned cheaters rebuying are the only source of new income for Brammertard. Genuine new players can't play at all vs poopsock unlocks, have a shit time and quit forever after leaving a negative review. So he has to slow roll bans vs cheaters so they get their money's worth and keep feeding his coke to fuel his twitter rambling.
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>>582693391
After the catbot incident nobody should want l*nuggers into their game.
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>>582665621
this is an advertisement for cheats and you are retarded for posting it if you aren't being paid to do so
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>>582698970
Eh, if they are going to reset the economy every 30 days it doesn't really matter.
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>>582701394
their plan is to go wipeless
this one is a short one, i think the next one will be 90 or some shit
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>>582701394
>if they are going to reset the economy every 30 days
they aren't
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>>582697453
probably a redditor flying and the passenger said something mean to him
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how do people get 150 rounds in the ak drum mags? saw a guy selling them in a crate. he'd walk to the weapon guy then back to the crate and put in a bunch of ak stuff with way more bullets in it than they were supposed to have, like 60 or 90 in the normal ak banana and people would buy them out
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>>582703576
You can do this w/o cheats. Try to manual reload ap 545 into a full 545 fmj magazine when buying your loadout. Works with a bunch of stuff.
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>>582685494
planetside 2 was decades ahead and if they would rerelease the early version today it would blow away literally every other shooter on the market
and all that while being objectively worse than ps1
we truly live in the worst timeline
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>>582694610
The shell cam and thermals are staying in until the game stabilizes at 999 players. We're going to build a connection with influencers and players unlike anyone else, ass to mouth.
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>>582704429
dw, ai summary of burntpeanut twitch streams says the balance is AMAZING!!!
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>>582704429
But if the shell camera is removed then all the you tubers can get grid squares called out to them using 1337 milsim talk even though none of the utubers could ever pass the asvab
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This game is never going to work and there are too many reasons why. I'm glad enough I had some fun while there was actually fun to be had, but there ain't no puttin the genie back in the bottle with this one

At least we'll get a dozen much better remakes of this when Arma 4 launches
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>>582704231
planetside 2 was a shitty battlefield clone. the actual planetside game was ahead of its time with intelligent game design. planetside 2 was retarded slop made by that moron higby
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i decided to start playing green, so i had ai generate a rapid-fire click script for autohotkey
so far i've been able to join green on the first try every time
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>>582668286
>tip
This is very obviously going to devolve into a liveservice slop game with niggers running around dressed like Chewbacca and mickey mouse.
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>>582709609
more likely there will be mr blobby and teletubby skins since they're bongs
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>>582709609
They can't even be bothered to add female characters. You really we are going to get Ronald Mc Donald in tac gear?
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>>582710294
not adding tranny inserts is the best thing they've done. you're a fag if you want to lay as a chick
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>>582710294
>They can't even be bothered to add female characters
Good
Women don't belong in war
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>>582666556
Its just tarkov rust hybrid thats it
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>he plays green
NGMI. BlueChads get stronger by the day
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>>582665621
>>582667707
The devs doesn't give a shit about cheaters. It's moderate constant income for them since cheaters will just keep buying new copies, just look at how they treat the japs begging them to region lock china and how they kept closing threads about the cheating problems.

Community Servers barely helped because the admins UI is fucking dogshit. You need to ban the person when its in the server, cheaters in community servers would often just rage cheat for 5 seconds then leave before rejoining with a new name. There's nothing a community server janny can do against it.

This game is pro cheaters
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>>582713034
>tactical shooter
>everything costs money and is lost when you die
>gear advantage rules the game
>devs are retarded mouthbreathers
>game is overrun by hackers and poopsockers
>devs do nothing to combat hackers because new accounts = more money
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............
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>>582673557
I have ran into precisely ONE indian guy and he was a bro helping me kill reds and reviving people. I actually liked him.
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>>582701576
Are there any references for this at all, or did it come to (You) in a dream?
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>>582713840
>fat retarded guy with huge ego in charge
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PKM is nasty but holy fuck you're damn near 10k in hole after kitting it out.
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>>582714846
allegedly it's somewhere in here, haven't actually watched it nor felt the need to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQvtvAvl-78
i myself am just repeating what i've seen others consistently say, and i trust it as fact as it seems like something that would be trivial to contest if it was speculative or incorrect or something that you would observe inconsistencies in
for this first wipe being short (going for 30 days), similar case as the above. but also;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rdbnh8P0T0
explicitly announcing the wipe for the 15th
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Things getting bit stale....
Sure hope S2 has more to offer than rain and price tweaks.
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>>582714846
I saw a tiktok that was a clip of an interview of one of the devs by a streamer (cancerous beginning to this sentence, I know) and in it the dev said that currently they'd like to wipeless at 1.0 but didn't commit to it at that time, giving a big disclaimer that this is somewhat undecided and anything can happen until 1.0
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>unclaimed tower
>lets look for campers
>claymores all over on the way up the tower
>none of them explode for some reason, maybe they did it wrong?
>avoid them all
>creep up to roof
>another dud claymore
>blam blam tower wookies ded
>talk shit in local
>go back down and destroy all the claymores I can find
>warn teammates now coming up the tower about claymores all over
>guy says "ok" and runs off
>BOOM
>guess I missed one that actually worked

But why did none of them go off for me? I definitely went by some on the way up that I missed. Does WALKING make them not go off?
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how do I play assault and the hotzone without being a complete shitter who dies in a split second?
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ok so the tank sucks for everything except *checks notes* shooting down helicopters?
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anons, if you joined blue team and joined an unlocked squad and the squad lead was talking in a foreign language, would you put up with it or bail?
bonus point: the guy understands english but just doesn't want to speak to you in it
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i don't join squads
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>>582715775
>i myself am just repeating what i've seen others consistently say, and i trust it as fact as it seems like something that would be trivial to contest if it was speculative or incorrect or something that you would observe inconsistencies in
I am contesting it right now. That video doesn't say it anywhere and seems to contradict it in several places, for eg where they contrast unlock progression being reset and transient to permanent skill progress that carries across seasons.

This game's progression is the worst of all possible models. Reset unlocks to force a race that nolifers win every season to overpowered armor, gear and vehicles. Combined with an ultra grindy permanent skill system so the same nolifers have huge advantages even on day 0 of every season.

The problem with their fucking vision is that they've sold it in a way that makes it seem like you get it and agree with it, but once you start digging you find the statements of vision contradict ans make no sense.
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>>582718529
understandable, thank you for your reply
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>>582718362
Depends on the language
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>>582719171
latin
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>>582719310
Actual Latin? Then based. I'd stay
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>>582718362
what the fuck is this question
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>>582719498
what it says on the tin. blue is getting boned until wipe, and the experience therein is pretty lackluster; with one of the issues being the tendency for few if any squads to be made, and fewer to be unlocked to boot. i know the general is not indicative of the game's playerbase, of course, but just wanted a reference for if any one would be willing to put up with it
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>>582693391
i find the whole linux situation really funny because they keep saying they are open and honest and have great communication doing sob story videos with long pauses
>w-we made battalion 44 and our....communication wasnt the ....best, which is why we are so open now
which is just proven to be a blatant lie since they said nothing over the ac change, blame their CM and then also say it was an accident to enable linux connections. all after promoting that it worked showing it on a deck then allowing connections on the beta test.
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>>582698025
wrong
>green
english and scandies, will pick you up and give you useful info
>red
eastern euros and german furrys, wont revive you because they are all playing recon
>blue
doing better since all the mongs go green now.
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>>582719310
>praemissa falsa
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>wallhack and 1shots everyone to the chest
why is this allowed
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>>582721590
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>>582721560
>praemissa falsa
me ignosce sodes, amice. rogatio est seria
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>>582721590
Its intended gameplay chud
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>>582718630
saying you're going to wipe cash and XP but not various permanent meta-progressions is not really contradictory
explicitly, these cash-XP wipes are stated to be a tool used through early access to tune the cash-XP progression systems (on top of the usual purpose of letting new players compete), observing what needs to be changed and tweaked and seeing how the introduction of these meta-progression systems impact it
that vid doesn't contain the source for the wipeless "plan" though, that's here:
https://youtu.be/4UbOrVu3W7w?t=191
which is actually not a plan as my post misconstrued it but a no-promises idealized goal they have; i stand corrected
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>>582717525
If you sit in the middle of a death ball most of it's weaknesses disappear.
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infrared has ruined my enjoyment of this game
when i have it i have fun
when i dont have it i dont have fun, i have even less fun if i dont have it and the enemy team does resulting in my ass getting sniped the moment i show 1 pixel of my head for a split second.
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>fob doesn't fit in the pouch
i already drove out here that's so dumb
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>Can't join red or green
>Join blue
>Spawn little bird
>Everyone runs past my helicopter
>Wtf
>Only 1 guy gets in
>He's says something along the lines of "yeah not sure what's wrong with those assholes"
>Personal drop off for him between tower and HZ
>Locked on
>Dive
>Crash
>Esc -> Leave match

>New server
>Can't join red or green
>Join blue
>Helicopter duty again
>This time players actually get in
>Drop em off and do supply runs
>Eventually get igla'd and do a Ural supply run
>Help build the FOB at T2
>Actually a solid base, build a drill, have infinite fuel
>Activate it and start pulling the circle, it's go time
>Wait, where did it go?
>Red artillery tank one shot it lol
>Green wins because their FOB kept pulling the circle unopposed
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>>582718529
I haven't been bothering to do so in recent matches. Is there that much of an advantage with it? I guess if I were doing infantry but lately I've been doing support type shit because that's what wins games.
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>>582726169
Actual comms are nice if you're working towards an objective or don't want enemies hearing you.
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I am a machine that reduces artillery tanks into scrap. I honestly don't even care that it barely gives any money. Its just so fun scouting the enemy backline, getting closer and closer to the artillery as you pinpoint its location via the noise it makes when it fires and when you finally track it down you blow it the fuck up
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>>582726551
How much C4 do you need to consistently blow them up?
I've been thinking of doing something similar when I just want to fuck around
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>>582710790
It's crazy how much more SOVL the game has because of the 3-team mechanic. I remember people criticizing the decision for having 3 factions. But literally every fps game after PlanetSide 2 has done the same tired boring two faction system. It took until 2026 for devs to come up with the idea of trying something different.
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>>582726713
Two to the back (important, speciflcally to the back) blows them up. I usually take a heli and fly low trying to find it, then i land a bit farther away and head to them on foot for them not to realize i'm coming
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>>582726551
I like yelling "Zeeky Boogy Doog" before I blow them up. I hope someone at least gets it.
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Is there anyway to protect a drill? Is there a way to put it under cover?
>>582726551
I keep forgetting about Stingrays. That might have helped protect the drill. I need to learn how to differentiate between mortar strikes and artillery strikes.
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What's with all the half-full servers?
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>>582727102
Probably players leaving from OPK hackers
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>>582726915
Artillery shells have like 3x larger explosions than mortars. Also keep an eye out on your kill feed since you can tell by the kill icon. And yes, if your team has the infrastructure for it, stingrays are by far the best counter. Unfortunately FoBs almost never have mechanical supplies so its very rare that you get to use them
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honestly its insane... playing a round with a top tier weapon and then going back to playing like a mortal
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>>582726915
>I need to learn how to differentiate between mortar strikes and artillery strikes.
The sound before it falls is louder, longer and the explosion is louder.
Almost twice

>>582726748
The problem isnt 3 faction. The problem is how they balance it and the devs are a bunch of faggots that cant be bothered to fix it after being told for months about it. NO WONDER why their publisher dropped them originally.

On top of that, 100 players? are they fucking retarded, you cant play the way you want because you rely on 30 faggots that cant do their job and will spam to join other teams or switch mid game to intel spy.

If it was 50 vs 50 vs 50 it would be different.
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>>582726537
>heavy weight
>suppressor
>TDG
>the optic that lies to you
bro, your ADS speed?
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>>582726915
build bremer walls around it and repair it with rotating medics
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How come there's no /vg/ clan
what happened to 4chan, games like this/planetside/tribes were prime games for 4chan clans.

What happened...
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Can I set heli controls to be like Bad Company 2? I tried the small heli and it feels like it tries to auto compensate against half my inputs so i over compensate and flip.
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>>582666556
The only squad-like thing is the retarded system of forcing you to have a gunner in your arty/tank
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>>582727957
4chan is no longer niche, too many retards to bother.
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>>582728014
turn the flight assist off
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>>582727919
>build bremer walls
That's what I mainly build because from what I understand they cannot be destroyed by explosions.
>repair it with rotating medics
I need to do that from now on. I didn't realize it would be that important to repair the drill to keep it up. Can you out-repair damage from artillery/mortars?
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>>582727957
What would be our clan tag?
[4chan]
[CHUD]
[WDG]
Any other suggestions?
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>>582727258
this is why you go on autism missions and build your own fob for the express purpose of building, loading, and using a stingray launcher
ural + 2 pallets is all you need. and if you run out of mech supplies you can either ask for a drop-off or dump your kit in the fob, kill yourself, and resupply it yourself risky-boy style
don't put a door on your solo fob and build your walls to be 4 high and you're fine. also, buy a hammer on your kill-yourself run so you can get back into your doorless fob
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>>582728385
You dont need to go far, your stingray fob can be literally outside the main base exclusion zone, within 100 meters. The drone has enough battery to reach the enemy base.
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>>582728098
bremer walls die to 7 c4
they are indeed very resilient though

>>582728486
yeah but those bitches are 5k a pop i need that in-circle money bonus
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>Haven't played in few days
>shitload of boxes on spawn
>pick up ghillie suit and thermals
>go be bush in woods

Can you turn off the thermal vision? It kinda hurts my eyes and it's not really needed most of the time?
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>>582728098
it takes like 3-5 (direct) mortar hits or 2 artillery shells to delete a drill. if you surround it with walls and just have a door in to repair it they'll have a hard time keeping damage on it but if they are determined enough and dedicate 3 arty to it then its basically guaranteed to die but as long as they're focused on the drill then someone should be able to deal with them with stingrays or something. and it's basically a bonus if they destroy the drill when it's almost done anyway because the optimal play (apart from turning another one you have on) is to deconstruct it yourself and build a new one after it finishes doing its thing so you don't have to wait as long for the cooldown
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>>582728385
I've done it before but i don't really think its worth it. Its rare for the enemy team to have more than two artillery tanks, so you're almost guaranteed to not get your money back between the ural, supplies and actual stingrays. I would honestly just rather fly there and blow it up with c4
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>>582728657
>Can you turn off the thermal vision?
why would you want to turn off your legal wallhacks?
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>>582692483
DO NOT use darktide of all games as a litmus test for an alive game. 40k fags will eat literal shit if its got games workshop branding on it.
Fatshark are the worst most incompetent Swedemonkeys on Earth. The game played and ran like shit on release, got better, people had too much fun so they ruined it ON PURPOSE, and it still runs like shit
And I will NEVER forgive them for what they did to war of the roses
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>>582728765
spawn vehicles are 10k
but yeah the profit/m is objectively horrible and also completely unreliable and you would assuredly get more value out of building a mortar instead
i wonder how hard it is to hit a havoc with a stingray. they tend to hover in place
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>>582728569
You spam kill arty and spawn vics, its free money. i've made like 100k a game
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>>582728243
[CHUD] would be good had the term not been gentrified to hell by normies.

[WDG] is good, [4chan] is too obvious and nowadays only cringey zoomers openly associate with 4chan to look hip and cool.
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>>582728243
[brown]
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>>582728767
To not have a migraine unless I need to scan the woods or whatnot. Not really needed when spotting heli jumpers (99% of the money maker spots)
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>>582727517
hey assault bro i need a good galil and saw builds, if you have tips which attachments to avoid that would be helpful too
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>>582727517
>your ADS speed?
This brings up a pretty interesting point: When is an ADS speed change ever equal or more than a TTK change from better armor? Never, right?
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>spawn in buy glock with HP +2 mags and level 2 armor
>buy level 1 hammer and 4-5 stacks of build supplies
>land on enemy tower and spend the next 2 minutes building Jigsaw's barbed wire hedgehog funhouse
Its just so fun and one kill refunds the whole kit. Hedgehogs are great for climbing to weird areas or blocking off stairs too.
Total bullshit you can't build in enemy FOB radius though.
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>>582729028
I tried a couple of times but failed miserably and decided to stop wasting money
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>>582730058
>punches your hedgehogs and barbed wire
heh, thanks for the free exp and money
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>team of amr and fal
holy cancer, batman
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>>582727517
>heavy weight
This always happens if you bring actual gear.
>suppressor
yup, looks cool and makes less flash and boom
>tdg
no idea what that is
>optic that lies to you
huh?
ads speed seems fine. Some guy dropped FALs in crates and I had to try it.
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>>582727517
>the optic that lies to you
Explain
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>>582728243
I use [WEED] even though i dont smoke
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>>582731884
wat if....amr and fal...sex?
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ghillie not having any armor value is completely retarded
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>>582728243
[INCEL]
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I just unlocked the minigun helicopter. What is stopping me from spawning it at match start and going to the enemy's supply routes to attack their transport choppers and urals?

I disabled mouse controls and only use the keyboard for piloting. But after running the minigun helicopter in the practice range maybe I should enable mouse controls for finer tracking movements.
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>>582732656
Don't get hit chud, most of the map is shrubbery anyway, take the tradeoff.
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>>582732656
>I should be able to unlock armor that does EVERYTHING
>MY TIME INVESTMENT SHOULD BE REWARDED REEEEEEEEE
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>>582733274
>What is stopping me from spawning it at match start
the 20 point lockout.
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>>582733274
>What is stopping me
The game keeps it locked until one team has 20 points
the minigun bird also does very little to urals and lakotas, you want the rocket heli if you want to hit other technicals.
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>>582729502
most guns i just go either AFG or RVG (which is medic 16 i think xd) and then whatever barrel mod strikes my fancy, usually something else that also reduces horizontal recoil. or suppressor. i like suppressors
i've been using the AK over the galil lately, think it's like a whole kg lighter than the galil with comparable handling and TTK
for the SAW, fuckin, bipod. i tried to make it work without it, trying different grips and strats, and it just doesn't ever work like you want it to. anyways. slap whatever optic you feel comfy with, probably the 2x or a 3x in this case, add the only muzzle break you have (one of the two vertical recoil ones, if you have the orpheus then that one's a no brainer), and try to find nice flanks and lanes to hit and dip

>>582729645
you can mitigate the ADS speed penalty technically, while they can't really mitigate your thickness, but yeah feels like the moment you go heavy your "assaulting"/CQC TTK gets absolutely raped if you can't just hold an angle or hipfire. it's also just a giga-triple-hit to your maneuverability in general which sucks ass and is also a case of making you easier to kill. never feels worth it.

>>582732224
>t. still buying heavy tac vests
you end up right at the edge of medium (heavy with the parachute that you use to jump if you're into that kind of thing) with proper minmaxxing
that or you buy like 12 stims and plan to fall to medium weight by the time you run out
anyways i listed all of those other things because it's a total ADS penalty of something like +80% (a ~0.9s ADS compared to something like ~0.4s with a different setup)

>>582732239
cqc 2x has an ADS penalty despite listing a bonus
and the 1.5x has a bonus despite listing a penalty
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>>582734703
>"assaulting"/CQC TTK gets absolutely raped if you can't just hold an angle or hipfire
Facts don't care about your feelings.
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Its really cool how all the content around this game and every match are people getting a million kills with the havoc, the tank, the artillery truck, the grenade launcher, the FAL, the barrett. Meanwhile i'm 64 hours in any not even close to unlocking literally any of these items because i vary my playstyle. Fuck me i guess, guess i only exist to be farmed by people with the OP gear
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If we make a /wdg/ clan how do we communicate when there's no ingame clan chat
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>>582728243
[CUNNY]
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>>582735320
Yeah i vote for this one
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Trying to level support this late into the 'season' is a pure cock & ball torture experience
>can't level via combat because the starting shotgun is pretty shit unless you're right infront of someone
>can only build shit structures pre level 8 which gives meagre exp
>when building a fob you either spend half an hour making a giga fob that either never gets attacked so you ask yourself why even bother or it gets mortar'd to death
>assuming you even get to build the fob and not get rushed by a poopsock stack with a humvee and level 4 armor 20 seconds into the match
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you'd think the director/CEO being on top of criticism would be cool but he's such an annoying retarded faggot about it
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>>582736432
Elaborate
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>>582735626
Have you tried communicating in-game? Ask for a hammer at spawn base or ask for a mortar pit at your local fobbit hole.
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>>582735626
Supply crates are so underrated. Someone dropped off a supply crate at the FOB that had a large hammer in it. Ask your logistics players to send a large hammer, or anything else you need like meds and ammo in a supply crate. A lot of people still don't know to empty supply crates that have base supplies into the FOB.
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>>582736975
Not that anon but i'm so frustrated with supply crates because i've lost so much money buying them. Crates full of bandages, crates with defibrilators, crates with AA rocket launchers. Ive bought all of them and the vast majority of time they go unsold for literally the entire match and i just lose my money
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>>582734951
i'm mostly speaking about T3 medium vs T4 heavy
being heavy weight has an innate +50% ADS penalty, which is roughly +250ms for most ARs, considerably larger than the jump in TTK between T3 and T4 for the majority of weapons. ignoring everything else about being heavy, that alone is a pretty brutal figure
again obviously you can mitigate this penalty while they can't mitigate you being fat (ignoring AP ammo) but there simply are going to be numerous situations where, if the other guy isn't retarded, you die to the ADS-time-gap (or terrible hipfire accuracy) alone. particularly when assaulting

>>582735626
ural ural ural
you get driver and support XP for delivering supplies
if you do ammo pallets at a fob with active mortars you'll also get assist XP for targets they hit
don't have ural? do kodiak and crates first and drop it next to the fob. you can -100% markup and just move the crate contents into the fob yourself or you can leave it at the default +25% and hope a fobbit will do it for you
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>>582728243
[GOON]
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>>582737116
bandages are one of the worst ones to sell imo, they're way too plentiful and easily scrounged. IFAKs would do better. whenever i'm chasing hotzone and we're winning it's 5.56 and IFAKs that i get desperate for (as well as fresh T3 helmets and armor, but that shit takes up the entirety of small crates, so)
defibs are good but i probably wouldn't buy them out of a crate, they're too lootable. and if they aren't, too heavy. large batteries might sell better
large hammers are a good sell at least. the junior fobbits need 'em badly, and there's always junior fobbits
and then obviously if you're deep into any one class, sell their 20+ unlocks at spawn
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oh yeah, and stims. buying stims from a crate and using it on teammates within the hotzone is just free money for everyone involved AND they're still genuinely useful in that context
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>>582738343
people that do this are the most annoying mfers in the game.
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>>582737116
Yeah, it sucks because people don't know to access them. I'll frequently see FOBs littered with supply crates filled with base supplies that no one bothered to transfer into the FOB. I'll admit it wasn't immediately obvious when I started playing to pay attention to them but unless someone is a total newbie it should quickly be picked up on because it's a super useful mechanic.

Another technique is using the FOB as extra inventory. I'll fill my backpack with whatever I need and then make sure to take advantage of the inventory of the vehicle I'm bringing to bring extra stuff. When I get to the FOB I'll deposit things I might want to take out later. Since the FOB inventory is team shared, I dump my extra stuff at the bottom of the screen where nobody will look lol
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>>582738470
vaxxed?
it would be infinitely less annoying if the "hold" part of the interaction wasn't so touchy about distance. like, get close to start it, but then if you start to move away it should give me some fuuuuucking leeway to keep it vaxxing
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>>582733626
>>582733743
Oh, I thought that was just limited to the spawn vehicle. That makes sense. I'm assuming that lockout applies to all armed vehicles?
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>>582739216
I tried to tell people to let me vaccinate them and they tell me to fuck off but they will let me if i say its drugs or ozempic. its hilarious.
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>>582739372
>I'm assuming that lockout applies to all armed vehicles?
only aerial attack vehicles and the APC
arty is useless unless there's something built
tanks take 3 aeons to move so by the time you're in cz it's gonna be 20 points

the only miss is armed humvees, so rape to your hearts content.
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>Join a game that has a cheatstack on red
>0b-50r-0g, handful of people in team complaining about aimbotting
>Buy a full kit in my first life that has a parachute
>get aimbotted
>Use the rebuy kit option
>still have 20k in bank, no sign of not being able to purchase a parachute
>after a comparably long flight, eject from heli
>Go to parachute
>I have no parachute
I am so confident that I had a parachute, I'm just going to assume there is a cheat that allows for long distance looting of other players while they're in the alive state, perhaps in vehicle?
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>almost unlocked the sv98
>realise this wont change recon much because i'm still going to want to keep being a spotter until I unlock the ghillie suit
>that wont matter much either because you want infrared and an mk22 or amr 50
this fucking grind is dogshit and with two weeks left until the wipe it's really demotivating. I hate this fucking wipe meme games do these days
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>>582741120
If the developers aren't completely retarded, the second season will either be longer, or have reduced XP requirements per level
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>>582741120
>ahhh i cant play this role until i unlocked all the very very best stuff for it
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>>582741821
yeah cause everyone is running around in t4 in my matches now sometimes the other teams just have guys dumping endgame stuff in supply chests for people so I need equally endgame stuff to compete
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>>582741120
pretty much why i stopped playing all together, broken retarded balancing and impending progress wipe really kills any drive to play
>>582741232
ive been seeing people claiming that they apparently are going to change the xp curve but who knows if thats true or if itll be good
>>582741821
the unlocks are so fucking bad and it makes no sense to unlock a mildly more ergonomic sniper that still wont be able to kill anyone since armor has progressed to tier 3+
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>>582741892
>ahhh i cant manage to kill anybody until i have the very very best stuff cause i suck
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>>582741892
>everyone is running around in t4
giga cope
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So we can all agree that the CWIS fucking sucks right? It accomplishes almost nothing. Its so painfully difficult to aim with it that any moderately skilled chopper pilot just ignores it, or kills the operator before they can do anything. And its not even a personal skill issue, i have never seen anyone get particularly good results with it. I wish they would ease up on their retarded "turrets have extremely low sens and you have to rotate with WASD" shit
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>>582742314
the projectile velocity could be bumped a small amount, otherwise just make vehicle sens 1 the default instead of 0.5
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>spawn vehicle spawns
>guy runs faster than me to it
>hops in
>I lie and say i really need the xp i almost have the tank
>he lets me take it
>die to landmine 200m out of HQ


FUCK
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>>582741892
>magdumps hollowpoints into your thighs
Wow, armor ain't shit. But in reality the endgame weapons counter the endgame armor so the only limiting factor is whether you've dumped 60 hours or 600 hours into the game already.
I had an idea for an alternative gamemode but I fear this game will die before we get custom rules on community servers besides infantry only*
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>>582742314
i just killed a havoc with one twenty minutes ago
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>>582737368
>i'm mostly speaking about T3 medium vs T4 heavy
>being heavy weight has an innate +50% ADS penalty, which is roughly +250ms for most ARs, considerably larger than the jump in TTK between T3 and T4 for the majority of weapons. ignoring everything else about being heavy, that alone is a pretty brutal figure
>again obviously you can mitigate this penalty while they can't mitigate you being fat (ignoring AP ammo) but there simply are going to be numerous situations where, if the other guy isn't retarded, you die to the ADS-time-gap (or terrible hipfire accuracy) alone. particularly when assaulting
You need to check your numbers, because that aint it chief.
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>>582742561
It pretty much is only good against the Havoc specifically because people tend to hover a lot with it, but again that's mostly the pilot fucking up rather than the CWIS's merit
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>>582742590
a 50% longer ADS time with a base ADS time of 0.5s is not +0.25s?
and the TTK gap is like ~150ms
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>>582742590
>>582743462
holy fuck nevermind i'm retarded
why did i think the ADS time was +50% that's LEAN TIME
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>>582741120
The SV98 is a solid upgrade because it's a 1 shot headshot on level 3 helmets while the mosin is only up to level 2.

But yes recon this late into the season without ghillie at the very least feels like absolute dogshit because you'll be spotted very frequently and get counter sniped all the time by those who do have ghillie+infrared, and ofcourse you'll be fighting an uphill battle vs any enemy recon with t4 helm because they are guaranteed to tank your shot while you die in 1.

I think the main problem is just how insanely slow the exp grind is and recon is actually a pretty decently fast class to level. i'm genuinely curious how many hours it would take to get to the 50cal from 0 because it's atleast a 100-200 hours of pure recon.
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>>582744547
>The SV98 is a solid upgrade because it's a 1 shot headshot on level 3 helmets while the mosin is only up to level 2.
don't they both have the exact same damage and multipliers? same class same caliber
AP ammo is the thing that lets you 1 tap T3
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>>582744647
i believe the mosin can't 1 shot t3 without AP while the SV can with FMJ. could test it to be certain.
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>>582662594
what's the best way to get revenge on somebody who tk you?
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>come home from waging
>join roundstart
>blue team fucks off to spot outside the zone
>drop supplies to a fob and instantly get humvee rushed
>change team to red
>no fob, chasing HZ and losing to green air
>green team is full so try to build a sneaky AA base
>ask for help, no response
>almost enclose base when a blue nigger snipes me from 400m
>no apc because ofc it died to air
>halfway with an ural the blue snipernigger c4s my fob
>quit and ragefap to some ryona

Im having a blast.
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>>582743725
So now we can go back to my original question: Can a situation ever exist where TTK penalties from any combination of stacked ADS time penalties ever outweigh the TTK bonus from heavy armor?

Also lol @ that 2% worse ADS time at super heavy. Oooohhhh nooooo....
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>>582748054
you really don't want to be locked to walking speed with a 20% penalty in this game
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ural has heated and cooled seats lol
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>>582749720
Why did you bring 'chute in the car?
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>try havoc for the first time
>both other teams just spam anti air shit, not fun
>try minigun humvee for first time
>everyone is just camping in fobs, not fun
>decide fuck them and grab arty tank
>level fobs and drills and lots of kills
>drone nigger blows me up
>some guy buys me a 50 cal first time
>kicks ass although sniping is boring af and blue is just drill spamming in their superfob
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>>582750015
nobody could decide what to take but my squad guy offered me a ride so we could go build a bit before havoks unlocked
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>>582710294
Die you fucking troon cunt
YWNBAW
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If I'm not grinding for gold bars, is there any reason to play before new season?
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>>582728243
[NEET]
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>>582751061
I'm probably gonna take a break now that everyone has OP and broken shit. It got a lot less fun when other people have it too.
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>>582666556
I have no clue why people compare this to Arma. Feels more like Battlefield 2.
Wardogs looks more hardcore and realistic than it actually is.
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>>582739150
I haven't touched those small supply crates because the supplies have prices on them. Meanwhile unloading supplies from a pallet GIVES me money. So why would I pay for scraps from a little crate?
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>>582680606
what a fucking whore, talking to foreign men online
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>>582751426
your own fault for parking the heli there you fucking faggot
it's not a helipad. There should be a fucking roof over there so helifaggots cannot come honk their horns right next to the weapons vendor
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>>582680606
she probably looked like that too
i think she loves you
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>>582752724
Well then people should stop getting in helis that aren't mine. I don't like doing it, and I don't honk.
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>>582749376
Good thing T4 doesn't do that.
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>>582751061
I stopped playing since everyone is bringing the same GL heli bird, rocket bird, FAL, 50 cal, Havoc, Thermal, T4 helmet everywhere

Game's more fun when everyone is using dogshit weapons so I'm waiting for the wipe
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>>582751426
Well earned you green tryhard faggot.
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>Match hits 20 points
>Can't outside anymore as you suffer death by infinite heliniggers
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>>582753975
>have to heavily skimp on utility and min max everything up to attachments
pass nigga
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>>582751426
>I can't have fun anymore now that its a fair fight
tale as old as time when it comes to bitchmades
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>>582755539
it's never been a fair fight
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>>582754802
>skimp on utility and min max everything up to attachments
You're actually retarded. 4 armor, 4 helm with:
M4 w. suppressor, 1.5x, shift grip, 4 mags
Med bag
Assault pack w/
80 loose 5.56
6 stims
3 c4 + det
4 smokes
8 frags
Is still under super heavy weight.

You only breach super heavy with support equipment, sniper rifles or multiple primaries if you're not a literal mouthbreather who can't do simple maths.
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>>582756330
(med vest as well)
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>>582756330
and yet buying the fucking MAAW, armor and an smg makes it so I can't run
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>>582756763
That's because the MAAWS weighs roughly the same as 2 primaries, and each shell weighs roughly the same as a primary (20% more than an M4). Support equipment all weighs a tonne.
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>>582756976
>only way to use anti-vehicle equipment is to also be in a vehicle
bravo fagmer
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>>582748054
exclusively considering just ADS speed and just between medium vs heavy (implicitly T3 vs T4), not really. +~45ms to your ADS time vs +~150ms to your TTK
you would need a bunch of mods on your gun that demolish its ADS time but considering that that has no relation to armor whatsoever, it's a meaningless consideration
i would still hold that the other weight-related factors are very relevant in the decision between T3 vs T4 and how they impact your odds of survival in various scenarios, but the ADS impact specifically isn't actually as bad as i FOOLISHLY thought
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>>582757030
The MAAWS is underpowered compared to its weight or IRL equivalent, but the RPG is comical and there is no disposable LAWS of any sort in the game, so it's all that's on hand.

Frankly, everything is a bit underwhelming and feels too weak other than the 50 cal and 40mm. It's Battlefield style balance where everything is anemic and hits like a wet noodle.
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>>582713034
Dev i was in game last night encouraged cheating so they could ban your ass.
They want another 40 bucks from ya.
Which you'll happily oblige.
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>>582756330
uhm, sir, where are your meds? a med bag used on yourself is like 4 bandages worth
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>>582758023
Swap some grenades for ifaks if you aren't with a squad who have other med bags. Ifaks weigh half what a frag does, so you will only be saving weight, which is the matter at hand.
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>>582750093
>artytranny calls drones niggers
Thanks for the easy 14k, cuck.
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>>582758258
what the fuck is an ifak you retard
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>>582756330
you forgot about the medium tac vest so you can use your many utility items. with everything else included, that'll take you into superheavy at 6 frags 0 smokes
anyways that's a total trivial nitpick. your point still stands, it is indeed borderline impossible to go superheavy without launchers even with T4
that being said, it is also borderline impossible to *not* be heavy with T4. though there are some kinda funny yet still practical arrangements you can do. real havelmom shit, like:
>T4 head + chest, no tacvest
>GGX 18 with suppressor, 33rd stick mag, no sight
>pair of thermals
>scout bag with 2 extra stick mags, 200rds of loose ammo (weightless), and 4 IFAKs
comes to 26.9kg and is reasonably competent. there's probably better configurations though, especially if you drop the suppressor for a regular barrel mod
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>>582717121
play pc shooters regularly for 20+ years
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>>582759479
>IFAK
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>>582758849
thank god someone finally said it, wasn't gonna be me
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seriously what the fuck is an IFAK
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first aid kit, "I" probably cuz you are meant to use it on yourself, im no paramedic tho
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>>582759638
uhh... yeah?
that's the highly usual acronym for "individual first aid kit", aka the only other non-equipment healing item in the game besides bandages. that's just what it's referred to as 99% of the time, it's an IFAK
shit haha even the slop machine goes straight to using the acronym

>>582758849
>>582759926
guys... what are we doing here
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>>582760297
>>582760343
yeah that is what they are called but everyone calls them medkits...because that's what every game has called them since games stopped calling them just "health"
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i have never in my 39 years of life, heard "FAK" used as an acronym for a first aid kit until today
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>>582760427
counter-claim: everyone calls them IFAKs because that's what they are

>>582760484
yeah i also haven't, i don't know what thread you're looking at where they're saying just FAK
an IFAK is its own specific military-relevant thing. plus it's comfortable to say in english, FAK feels awkward in the same contexts for whatever reason
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>>582760427
IFAK your mudda
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>>582728243
[HTLR]
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>the retards who built walls left 50 holes in them again
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>>582762098
>he tried to fix them with bremer walls so it didn't help at all
>it takes 15 minutes to deconstruct one bremer wall
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>realize I'm not even level 20 in any role
So it's not just neets with more free time to play the game. It's autistic neets who will spend 3 weeks, 20 hours a day sitting a a bush with binoculars doing nothing but spotting shit just to get the infrareds.
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>>582763567
im tired of pretending that gutting all progression for the casul is healthy
it always ends in disposable games
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>>582759479
>you forgot about the medium tac vest
No, I didn't, see >>582756430. I just forgot to write it. It's under superheavy with the med tac vest, feel free to check.
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>everyone
okay, RETARD
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>>582758849
>>582759638
>>582759926
>>582760265
>>582760427
>>582760484
Literally everyone who actually uses them calls them "eye-faks". You will note that I didn't even capitalize it. Now begone and deign not to speak in my presence again, neverserved nogunz plebs.
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>>582764282
>taking pride in being a goylem
lmao
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>>582764376
>goylem
Are you a failed man whose identity has been defined by too much exposure to literal adversary propaganda on /pol/, or a turd worlder?
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>The shotguns aren't shotguns
>The shotguns are actually low bullet velocity snipers
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>>582764486
>a literal turd worlder calling others turd worlders
lol
lmao even
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>>582764606
I bet you won't post hand, timestamp and power outlet.
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why are the reds and greens fighting between each other even in the thread
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>>582764764
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>>582764946
>brown
>weird third world plugs
>14 years old
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>>582764946
>no grounding
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>>582764946
Oh my god you're actually a third worlder lmao. Oh no.
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>>582765126
Whiter than you pablo
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whichever nigger who said you get more exp inside CZ is a fucking liar

after testing for 3 matches, you get the same amount of exp even outside the circle

YOU DONT EVEN GET DOUBLE EXP INSIDE HOTZONE FUCK YOU LIAR NIGGERS
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>>582765639
They probably just confused XP and money. Relax, ape.
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>>582764946
Wait... 1500h.... Ungrounded power.... Turd world opinions..... Are you a real-life zigger?
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>>582764946
>day first
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this
>>582718529
lead to this
>>582764946
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>>582765874
That's the correct way of doing it.
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>>582766198
No it didn't lol. This little zigger (?) trying to demoralise anyone from countries that have potable tap water was the cause of this.
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>>582766540
i was pointing out the funny absurdity of the reply chain
i don't care about your personal battle with anonymous people on the internet
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>shot someone in the chest with a Mosin using flesh rounds
>he shoots back and I die
>1.87 damage (212 damage removed by level 4 armor)
>can't unlock armor piercing rounds yet
man...
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>>582757863
Looks like a fucking ps2 game like goldeneye
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>>582760265
IFAKURMOM HA GOTTEEM!!!!!!
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>>582768017
You shouldn't ever shoot anyone in the chest with flesh rounds. You should only carry them for thighs.
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>>582768176
you called?
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>>582768286
dont you have a date with a kangaroo soon
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>>582768402
massive whiff anon
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>>582768286
im still mad they didn't make him a smaller guy like real life thais
i wanted Ong Bak, not a street fighter lookalike
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>>582768492
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>>582768632
He's not the Australian.
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>>582768402
i don't get it
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>>582768905
>>582768926
it's fine, forget about it
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>>582750015
what if you have to jump off a building later on
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>>582770196
you'd be fucked because your parachute was in the car
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>>582768579
idk, i've always played leo cause the playstyle clicks
also death to all alysa players
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>>582761981
[TWINK]
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>>582771224
clan tags are 4 letters, unfortunately
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>>582771224
>>582728243

>>582771317
>clan tags are 4 letters, unfortunately
Also, how did you reply+pic that fast?
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>>582771317
Dang so [VIRGIN] is off the table too let alone [VIRGININCELCHUDS] or [CAREBEARS]
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>>582717121
There are two options: rat or get carried by a turbosweat/ESP stack (the same thing btw).
Firstly and obviously, if your team doesn't push hz, then don't even bother, you will get buck broken if you go there solo, just leave the lobby or go sit in a bush or in a fob.
Now if your team actually pushes the hz, you should pay attention to the initial ambush/firefight:
1. If your team wiped the floor with opponents, and/or you see a clan squad on your team, and/or there's no squad but the top of the scoreboard is filled with your team and they have high K/Ds, then you're lucky and have turbosweat hackers on your side. Simply run a dozen of meters behind the guy who spearheads and pick off any poor souls whom he didn't kill immediately, revive, take potshots at anyone you see.
2. If your team lost the initial engagement but didn't scatter or fuck off to fob, or you see that the sweat stack is on another team, then you find yourself a house or another rat spot at the edge of the hz and shoot at people who dare to push. Don't even try to peek or move actively.
>>582771519
[VRGN]. Also has an added bonus of being unbannable by british cucks.
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>see guy sneaking up on our fob
>kill him
>he bitches and moans about campers in some eurotrash accent
Please go back to your own servers. We have enough retards without you here.
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>>582772367
The easiest way to gain assault xp is to just join green and run around with the deathball. If you see your team getting rolled you join another server. Must suck for people who can't shoot though.
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>>582771385
it is destined
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>>582768905
>>582768926
you guys are retarded
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>>582772791
there's a guy named fuck ur mam in a videogame?
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>>582774610
ye
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>>582774425
prove you're not a retard by explaining it then
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>>582774940
next release is a kangaroo called roger jr in tekken 8
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>havoc overhead
>some guy tells everyone to get in the bathroom because it's safe
>throws a nade and teamkills 14 people
kek
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>>582775359
how the fuck am i supposed to know that? This is the wardogs general.
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>>582775590
one may have thought you're a ball knower if you're posting fakumlam in response to a ifukyourmum comment
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anyone else swap teams and teamkill when someone ruins your fun?
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>>582775823
>autumn char is a fucking kangaroo
jfc
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>>582776662
I'm not a faggot so no
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If thermals cost $30k it wouldn't be a problem even if they leave it disgustingly OP.
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>>582776724
the faggotry of building a fob outside the cz for aa/mortars or being a sniper outweighs intentional teamkilling so it's ok
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Why do trannies have to ruin everything? I just want to play with people from the thread but delusional faggots have poisoned the well so hard over the years that we can't make a discord or use some other method to organize.
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>>582776957
>Why do trannies have to ruin everything?
to corrupt is to reproduce for them, it's in their nature
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>>582776957
make a server right now and we can play
of course if you're a freak or unbased we will not play much
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>>582776957
sure it's trannies and not just mentally ill 4channers? Because I don't think there's enough trannies in the world to ruin chuds' wardogs games
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Brammer did another reaction video on twitter and he talks about xp and balancing. It's 45 minutes and I'm not watching the whole thing but what little I heard was
>you're probably getting tired of my trump tweets lol
>we know the end game balance is fucked, that's why season 1 is only 1 month
>we are changing it up for season 2
>but there will be somethings that we're okay with them being a little overpowered
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>>582776954
>the faggotry of building a fob outside the cz for aa/mortars or being a sniper
all in the game yo
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>>582777663
Bummer is king vagueposter
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i hate zoomers and their need for progressionslop. everything should be unlocked by paying for the fucking game.
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>>582778176
for some retarded reason zoomers need a forever game and if it doesnt have unlocks they cannot play it for more than a few days.
I think they lack the brain capacity to create goals for themselves. If the game doesn't set goals for them, they think the game is "solved" or something and they won't play it
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>>582778176
Unlocking things by playing the game is boomercore though.
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>>582778450
no it's not, you never had to unlock shit in doom or quake
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>>582776954
the true faggotry is wasting your time getting revenge in vidya when you could just leave the game and play another one
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>>582771519
[NIGR]
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>>582776954
Bro, mortar fobs can turn a game and crack open a fort for your boys. I just load two pallets of ammo and fire till I'm out then seppuku
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>>582751426
Niggers who park their helis ontop of the buy menu are the most obnoxious faggots in the entire game.
They don't even care about getting people to the CZ, they just want money. Some games you have 3 retards crashing into eachother in spawn trying to park the closest to everybody buying their shit.
Kill yourself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnYyENqLjE
me playing recon
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>they just want money
i mean yeah...thats the goal here innit
the real faggots are the second and third pilot that tries to find space where there isn't any and fucks it up for everyone.
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>>582783789
it's ludokino when they all have taxi skins
it's like we're really watching cabbies fight over a fare
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>>582783142
if you dont do it the other guys will and then you've spent 6k for nothing
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>>582786349
it's not like all the guys can fit into one chopper anyway so you will get your passengers just a second later.
I've started to ignore the pilots who honk and blast obnoxious "ONE MORE ONE MORE HURRY UP" voice chat shit
I'd rather drive an ural with broken tires to the CZ than give money to loud helifags
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Infantryplebs should have to walk to the heli field if they want a ride. I'm not coming to you by the vendors you fat fucks
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>>582787459
that's the way it should be
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>12:20pm on a Tuesday
something doesn't quite add up here
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>>582787763
it's weird when americans assume every single person works 9-5 monday through friday and there's nobody working at any job on the weekend
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>>582787927
you're right these are all 2nd shift industrial workers getting a round in, my bad
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>>582787927
if you're not working a 9-5 weekday job you're too poor to play videogames
also
>muh americans
>american server
retard
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>>582788190
>be me
>drive a trash truck at odd hours
>make 58k per year
I don't even have to touch the trash bins, the truck does it all
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>>582683367
>use thermals to identify where you need to scan
>pull out rangefinder
This is a minimal nerf. Just make them not work beyond 200 meters
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>>582788190
I work from 1am to 10am retard
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>>582788423
this, irl handheld thermals can't see very far either
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>>582788575
correction: they can see a heat spot at 1km and military stuff even further but you cannot identify what it is at that distance, it's just a blob of heat
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>>582788541
alright that's 9 hours, plus 8 hours sleeping, 4 hours of family time, 1 hour commute, 1 hour hygeine/misc, you telling me you have 1 hour a day of free time and you spend it playing videogames?
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>>582788832
>everyone has a family and spends 4 hours with them every day
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>>582788934
>employed with no family
might as well quit or kill yourself honestly
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>>582788415
how do you even know what a computer is? how are you posting here? don't you have a beer to drink?
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>>582789194
I have a beer in hand thank you
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>>582710512
No you're a fag if you want to fuck a dude
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>>582778450
>Unlocking things by playing the game is boomercore though.
Nigga what, it's like the antithesis of 'boomercore'. We liked stats and fluff like that, but vertical progression was only really seen in RPG or MMO games. Where it fucking belongs.

>>582787459
Trust me, nobody is asking to have some annoying shit land next to the store and then proceeds to keep on honking.
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>>582787198
>it's not like all the guys can fit into one chopper
>parks a lakota on the shop
what now retard
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>>582789575
It still doesn't fit everyone, retard
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>>582789667
15 people is everyone, because there's 4 other heli pilots, 6 urals, a humvee or two, and empty slots
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>>582790023
well lakota doesn't fit 15 people, retard
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>>582776957
lol
lmao even
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>>582776957
the irony of this post
the only well-poisoning deluded faggot here is you
rest of us are having fun just fine
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my biggest complaint is with infantry.
I got 22kills (second highest in lobby, most kills were 23) and still finished the match -13k, only 17 deaths too.
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>beep beep beep beeeeeep
>saaar get in the choopaa redeem the poop zone saar
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>>582790547
Enemy killed should pay more, i agree.
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>>582790151
ok retard enjoy taking ONE person to the cz then
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Why do these niggers spend so much time picking their "perfect" loadout when they're dead and respawned every single time by the time I make it back to base
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>>582791418
I'm not a helinigger though, I drive a stinger filled car to harass all airfaggots
Yes, even friendlies
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>>582791494
they hit rebuy loadout
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>>582790547
dont respawn unless you get looted then
I ran infantry on a 20k kit and stuck with the team or held out concealed, even had to rtb once for armor ammo and meds, total profit 120k, could've done much better if I got more kills but I only had 23
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>>582791502
>aim verba at friendly
>beep beep beep beep beep beep
>BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>they flare
priceless.
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>>582791619
That shouldn't take longer that 3 seconds, yet they seem to be taking at least a full minute
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>>582791838
Even better if an enemy missile then destroys them after they flare kek
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>see a havoc flying over head
>track it with a verba for awhile
>it never flares
>right as it is about to go out of range decide to take the shot anyways
>missile flow over the horizon
>I can't decide if it sounds like it lost the tail rotor or not
>over a minute later get the long shot achievement
Heh...
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>retarded heli keeps dropping building pallets on fob
>20 building pallets and it's already full
>tk him with antiair
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>>582754604
I don’t understand why IR missiles have a lock floor
The floor mechanic would make sense if the CIWS had a radar lock assist that you lose if they drop altitude
But IR missiles already have a lock time and flares counter them, so why do helis also get to benefit from being below a lock altitude?
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>>582795584
it's because muh gameplay
IR missiles should not have a lockon warning either.
basically IR missiles are extremely deadly to low flying helis
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>>582795584
>>582795803
you guys whine about ir locks, meanwhile you can hit a soldier directly with one of the little bird missiles and he survives XD let alone the puny area of effect
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>>582795584
I just realized the CIWS still has its massive radar housing
Why does it have that if we’re visually acquiring targets
>>582795803
the lock warning is definitely gameified but i think it’d be fine without the lock floor
make heliggers actually choose between ammo or flares
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>Unironic heli downplaying
>>582790547
assault's problem is how high risk it and cost inefficient it is compared to other roles, you have to have expensive gear to have a good chance with competing but unless you have a really high k/d all the time you'll almost always be running in the negative without getting cash from other sources like reviving.
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They need to ban non-consumable items from being sellable in supply crates this is ridiculous.
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>>582796867
>they need to ban the only way for normal people to access high tier items
ok sweaty
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>>582797137
get grinding wagecuck :^)
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>>582796867
Retard. Supply crates are only and the intended way for someone in the zone to change their kit as circumstances demand. Being able to outfit your entire team with grenade launchers is just a funny haha side effect
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You should be able to label crates and be able to move your crates around. I want to set up a store in the zone.
You should be able to name your squad. I want to create dedicated open fobbit/saboteur squad.
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>got cheesed to death by leg meta
fix this exploit bremmer
fix it
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>>582800097
A buildable store that you can unload the crates into seems like a given.
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>>582779839
[NGGR]
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>>582800097
i dont think many people know that you can see whats in a crate if you hover your mouse over it in the map
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>>582800097
Its really weird that you can't move crates around. Placing them down is very akward because they never end up in the right place when you drop them off the car. There's also the problem that crates inside FoBs are destined to be destroyed by mortars, so i really wish i could move them to safety
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>>582800097
please add crate dragging and pushing so people can just be crate pushers allowing Cargonia to rise from the ashes once more
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>anon wants to play with /wdg/
>complains that we dont have a discord
>tell him to make one
>doesn't make the server
don't complain then retard
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Devs posted video
>xp gain rate is fine
>will be padded with more unlocks to make it feel worthwhile to grind
>players are not expected to max multiple classes per season
holy fuck its so over
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>>582805707
>Devs posted video
Where, faggot?
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>>582805880
https://x.com/Brammflakes/status/2104937869634662749
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>>582805967
Thanks, faggot
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>>582805707
I think the XP rate is fine but only if they make seasons considerably longer
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>makes fun of Battlefield/CoD for being filled with low skill cheesy shit
>proceeds to make a game loaded with more low skill cheesy shit than any Battlefield or CoD has ever had
What is Brammer's endgame exactly?
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>>582805707
>added with more unlocks
reminder that recon gets an unlock every single level but one on the way to 35 and they have the best guns and tools in the game
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Brammer's game, not yours. Don't like it, don't play it.
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>>582805707
>driver is still a 15 hour grind until you have a car that isnt a deathtrap
>then another 25 hour grind to the tank
>the tank also sucks and dies to even the basic RPG
I wonder if anyone will bother with driver next season. I enjoyed the humvee shenanigans before people knew how to deal with it, but there is no way im doing that grind again knowing the rewards are so shit.
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>>582807317
>I wonder if anyone will bother with driver next season
Honestly there is little reason to. Air logistics is much more efficient and AA is a non-issue if you have hands. The only vehicle that matters (The arty) is a general unlock so everything else is unironically irrelevant.
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>>582805707
they marketed this game as being old school, but i don't remember any of this progression shit being in my fps besides a couple of unlocks that weren't better
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>>582713034
>There's nothing that can be done against it
Just. Region lock. Asia. Ban all the asians, including Russia, to their containment zone. It will eliminate the overwhelming majority of cheaters and the remaining minority will be small enough to handle with jannies.
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>>582808625
>i don't remember any of this progression shit being in my fps
Really?
Unless you're just a complete retard talking about Wolfenstein 3D or something?
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>>582807317
>cod4/mw2/bf3
it's been 20 years you know, that's the new oldschool
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>>582805707
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>>582809246
i don't know what this console pleb game is, you faggot zoomer.
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>>582809587
9/10 ragebait
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>>582809828
>ragebait
insufferable zoomer. i guarantee you bought a prebuilt pc too, you literal retard
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>>582752364
unless the person who bought the supplies upmarked them like a jew, depositing them into your fob will give you more money than you spent to buy them
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>>582805707
>you have to chose a class per season and never do anything else
What are they doing? Just balance your game instead of throwing shitty bandaid fixes at the problems.
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>>582809246
What game is this? Also, the time it takes to unlock everything, whether it's going to be wiped and how 'essential' the later unlocks are. All of these things are outright bad in Wardogs.
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>>582739530
Drugs and ozempic are just minor annoyances of everyday life and lack of self control, the clotshot genuinely killed good people.
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>decide to fobbit after playing a few gaems of infantry army man
>build comfy church base with no gaps
>some ralph wiggum tier retard shows up and starts building staircases into it not even a spy doing it on purpose just legitimately touched
>hz naturally drifts over
>team is apparently nowhere to be seen
>enemy shows up following the hz and just climbs the free staircases in and takes over the fucking fob and turns the drill on because team is jacking off achieving nothing on the low ground 500m away
>alt f4
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>>582814869
you can un-build any other fobbit's junk with 'v'
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>>582815630
yeah let me just sit outside the walls exposed for 15 minutes deconstructing the myriad of bullshit ralph wiggum put up while he can build more faster than i can delete them
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>>582817284
You lose your fob either way.
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>>582817404
>you're fucked either way
this is why i alt f4ed
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>>582805707
Watched the entire thing (actually first watched the source linked without knowing he'd go over it in full...), the random trump/iran mention caught me offguard but the information he tried to rely and how I feel about it, its a 8.5/10, at one point he brought up retention of some skills and unlocks between seasons despite the resets, but didn't follow up on how would that feel and compare if it was like... 2 years from now, someone with 5k hours vs a new player who just bought the game, it's a bit concerning what that may end up looking like with that bit of context. But overall there's a solid chance they're aiming for the right approach.
>>582806746
>>582807317
t. didn't watch the video
>>582813050
they want to reward you for your time playing in other ways than letting you attack heli GL spam on top of blue base consisting of sub lvl 20 players to fund your power fantasy
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>about to hit 20
>wait at the vendor
>instantly spawn a rocket bird
>immediately go to enemy hq's and destroy all the crates of thermals/50 cals/fals sitting around for free moneys
Is this doable?
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>>582815630
>>582817284
>>582814869
you can unbuild the entire fob with a mere $300 IED
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>>582818071
>they want to reward you for your time playing in other ways
By pidgeonholing players into certain roles???
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>>582813554
It's battlefield bad company 1 or 2.

America's army proving grounds did it the coolest shit. You always played as the US against terrorists. The enemy just looked like terrorists for both teams.
Enemies dropped their equivalent weapon, if they used the m4 they would drop an ak. M249 became the PKM.
So the only way to get those weapons was by looting.

Obviously not happening but it would be really cool if we had that mechanic with the 3 factions
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>you aren't le supposed to unlock everything in a season
I've played for 40 hours and my highest skill is 17. Reaching 35 in more than one tree is outright impossible for anyone who has touched a vagina or has a job.
>just le vary your playstyle if the enemy team is cucking you
Fobbit/driver/pilot main chasing the circle with a starter rifle, T2 armor and bandaids is bound to end well.
>end game is SHIT
Well, at least he's right about something. I guess.
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>join server
>it's full of turks spamming the chat and teamkilling anyone they find
>join new server
>it's also full of turks, but this time they're cheating
I'd like to apologize to all the russians I've insulted over the years. Now I realize it could be way, way worse.
Also, my most sincere condolences to all greeks who have to deal with these subhumans.
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>>582823460
I work 8 hours a day and Im level 44 support. maybe stop being retarded?
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>>582824550
>I had to spend 60 hours in 3 weeks grinding the easiest skill
>bit I have a job so actually it's fine
By bro math says you spent an average of 2.8 hours grinding support every single day.
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>>582808445
>Air logistics is much more efficient
i doubt very much that helicopter logi is faster than suiciding and re-buying the ural after every delivery
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>>582788832
>1 hour hygeine
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>>582825475
I literally just play the game maybe its grinding for you because youre bad and the game isnt fun
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>>582763990
zzz
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>>582826423
a drive is like what... 4-5 minutes. whats the fly time round trip?
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What inspires autists to defend the absolute most dogshit game mechanics? I suspect it's just people who are naturally servile, spiritual jeets if you will.
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>>582830302
bro just trust the vision bro its a work in progress bro the game is just not for you bro
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>>582830302
>didn't mention which
>can't go one post without getting racist
how to even talk to people like you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd4W_tpI3N8
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>>582830810
The redditors said the same about Marathon, they should check where that game's nowadays. Turns out when you're a retarded nigger and make a game for nobody, nobody will in fact play it.
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Do you guys ever use the quick reload? (Dropping the mag)
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>>582831216
Please understand that if we make a game people actually play long term we wont be able to collect another sale when we try again with out next game (this time it will be a good game we promise)
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>>582742223
>shoot a guy with t4 in the head using anything less than a .50
>he just dips into cover and heals up
>pops back out to obliterate you with his own .50 in one shot
armor needs to fucking go

>"just use HP, leg meta bro"
tell it to all the waist high cover, this isn't fucking tarkov either I came here to "play like I used to"
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>>582831326
not on purpose
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>>582831551
Bipod is the only way pretty much. With bipod you have enough time to fire multiple times before they have time to react. Or just use BMR lmao.
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>>582826530
smelly
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>>582826952
Level 44 support says you enjoy your second menial job. What are you IRL to even call the support playstyle a "game", a warehouse worker?
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>>582830302
I'm HAVING a BLAST with the new WarDogs! I just sit down after work (Advertising, $130/hour) and PLAY the GAME. Thank Biden that the developers (overworked, underpaid, angels) don't listen to the CHUD community.
The progression is amazing. I'm really having a blast leveling! If the developers listened to the chuds, everything would be unlocked 15 minutes into the game. What a stupid idea. Yes, my friend who nolifes the game 16 hours a day drops me a full 40k kit every life. What has that got to do with anything?
Level 4 armor is OP? Stupid chud, just buy HP and shoot legs. Maybe this game isn't for you if you just run and gun like COD. I'm having a blast rolling around 14 deep with my discord gamerstack (2 medics, 2 snipers, 2 air support, 5 infantry, 2 anti-vehicle, 2 mortar) and I don't have any problem with vehicles/mortars. I love PLAYING MY WAY (tm).
Maybe this game isn't for you, chud. Go back to COD and stop WHINING. This is an EA game, so don't complain, the devs will fix everything soon.
I haven't had this much of a BLAST since Marathon-Highguard double weekends with the boys!
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>>582805707
I'm going to hang around and shitpost a little more, but I'll be fucked and called Nancy if I load up this game again. Brammercucks vision involved peyote.
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so is levelling recon this late in the game just hoping someone dumps a bunch of infrareds down, buying one and picking a spot to camp all match?
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What the fuck am I missing in recon class?
I finally unlocked ghillie and my loadouts now cost $18.5k and I make less money because of the playstyle change this fucking unlock requires
>I have to be extremely careful and think thrice about positioning
>SV98 is underpowered for the type of armor people are using
>kills still reward peanuts and you still have to rely on aircrafts to make bulk of your money
>1 wrong move, 30second too long in one spot, lvl3-4 helmet tanking headshot from 100m away and you are fucked
>Thermal range finder, which is a must for this loadout, which would make getting in the green easier and scanning terrain before repositioning faster - is locked behind another 250k XP grind
So what the fuck am i missing? Playing in the CZ and around HZ is a fucking nightmare at least on Ozeti. What is the even point of this unlock if you can't even guarantee a 1 shot kill with a headshot and getting xp and $$ for spotting requires you to move around constantly

I'm done with this carrot on the stick bullshit. Upcoming unlock which is MR22 is a complete joke with 5 round mag and FMJ ammo. Ghillie only becomes viable with thermal which is another hours upon hours of grind, just for all of this to be taken away by a wipe. I'm completely burned out, fuck this game. I'm dying to hear how to make ghillie work and make a bank. I don't feel like sitting on a hill in the distance and ending game with 100 assists and 5 kills. Meanwhile fob niggers make 100k+ profit from just swinging a hammer whole game
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This game has made me realize just how much I hate the bleeding out mechanic present in a lot of modern large scale FPS games. You can't ever actually kill a dude. No. Instead you drop him and his four buddies, but then a fifth guy manages to get you and even though you just went 5-1 all that is invalidated because there's still one guy left and he can pick aaaaaaallllll of the others right back up. It's less like warfare and more like pest extermination in that if you don't kill absolutely all of them then they're right back and as strong as ever in no time at all. I fucking hate it.
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>>582830921
>heinous xp progression
>armed ground vehicles before 20
>high end gear costing less than a pack of gum
>rpg firing nerf darts
>locking effective antitank behind 25 hours of grind
>thermals existing
>mortar shell cam
>passengers discarding flares
>team switching
>no ping lock
>starter sniper being a peashooter
>humvee being tankier than the actual tank
Take your pick, I've seen retards like you defend them all.
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>>582833136
you spot until you unlock the AMR50 which kills anyone through a wall with a chest shot
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>>582833136
>>582833130
"sniper" balance is AI generated
Maybe this game isn't for you. At least the CEO is available to call you a cuck on X if you want.
>>582833206
Examine this mechanic from the lens of someone who does not play video games but makes money when people spend money on video games.
The game is supposed to feel like a slot machine detached from skill so you keep pulling the lever.
MTX spend is a function of time played.
You either exploit to escape the cycle, or you are cattle in the machine.
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>>582827621
nta or otherwise previously involved in this conversation, buuuut
something to consider is that you need to 2x the air logi time since a ural carries double the load (2 pallets or 4 crates).
when you do that it starts to look pretty close, maybe even with a slight edge to the ural if you're smooth enough and the path to the fob is favorable.
assuming 3km to zone;
a ural one-way trip is like ~3 minutes for 2 pallets (2.5m + an extra 30s to allot for terrain cost/spinning out).
a lakota round-trip is roughly ~1.5 minutes for 1 pallet (~36s@300km/h + a buffer* for acceleration and deceleration).
so it ends up being pretty similar in terms of total delivery time per pallet

however there are a lot of factors to consider in the timing:
needing to slow down to deliver pallets and land to buy another pallet adds considerable and variable overhead to your RTT based on your personal ability to fly (on top of introducing room for costly errors, like tipping when landing or getting caught by AA). of course skill also matters for the ural, where spinning out or running into a tree can fuck up your timing, but it's not as impactful overall as fucking up in the lakota.
then there's the bit of time/acceleration you need to expend on just gaining height in the lakota. and also its acceleration in general is pretty rough, something like ~30km/h/s^2, so *the buffer i'm adding is probably too small on that alone.
and there's also assorted "X factor" elements like running into AT mines for the ural or getting hit by mysterious RPG man in the bush for both and so-on

basically, tl;dr: they're roughly equally efficient, but with a lot of potential complicating factors that work mostly against the lakota's assumed efficiency.
ultimately my conclusion would be to grant an edge to the ural for its relative simplicity and lower prevalence of its confounds
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>>582833136
You need a buddy to spot and revive for you :)
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>>582833130
I picked the game up last week, level 18 right now. I am pretty decent at shooting people so there's that but from my experience:

Spotting is the absolute best way to grind levels even without thermals, but if you don't have thermals you need to find good spots on each map where you can sit and farm.
The first weapon is complete worthless shit. The SKS is also completely worthless shit at this point because people have too high armor levels. The SVD is good but it's kind of annoying to use without bipod. In general though I would just advise in finding a place where you can spot most of the common hotspots where combat happens or most common spawnpoints and just farm spotter xp.

Someone dropping a thermal box is actually detrimental to the game because every faggot will just pick up thermals and go sit and do nothing entire game. You want people to fight so you can keep farming spots.
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Unlocked the ghillie and i think i will just go play something else, this game just does not respect my time nor will it respect my time judging by what the devs are saying.
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>>582833206
this mechanic is generally used to reinforce teamwork and discourage/lower the impact lone-wolf plays. reinforce infantry's objective of taking or holding space
in order to kill people for real, you need to fully capture the space that's being contested
that being said i do wish i could buy an anti-defib, like a stake or something. prevent these fuckin' ghouls from arising once more
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>>582805967
you can watch
https://x.com/Brammflakes/status/2104937869634662749
and have half of this answered

I know you won't, simply because you like to be angry argue guy online
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>>582834613
i've been playing since launch but I took a break from recon until recently, honestly i'm bored of spotting constantly, ideally i'd like to be using an LMG but they're such a pain without the bipod and anytime I find a nice spot to use it the area is fucking dead plus you're so open to sniper fire
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>>582834613
Oh yeah I forgot to mention that you unlock the 10 rounders for SVD only at 16 (SVD unlock was 12) which is actually by far the worst thing about this weapon. The 5 (technically 6) rounds makes it really fucking cancerous if you have to do any type of cqc or shoot at multiple targets. Or if you miss.
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I hope they at least make AP ammo available early, it's hilarious just how fast basically every sniper rifle with default ammo is invalidated by t3 armor and up, SVD bodyshots are basically the only viable engagement tactic for actual combat with the DMRs/Snipers.
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>>582833136
what you're missing is that this is true of all infantry roles. it's rough out here. price of the kits go up yet the reward for fulfilling your role remains woefully static

>>582833527
the game has no MTX you colossal retard
>yeah but imagine what about when they d-
shut the fuck up..........
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I just can't wramp my head around the idea that I no-lifed 130 hours in this fucking game and I'm nowhere near the end of progression for any of the classes
At that time investment I would hit lvl60 in classic wow, and these idiots at sharthead thought that it would be a good idea to introduce wipes. For whom is this game even? Nevermind the balance. Someone who has life outside of vidya would never get to enjoy this dogshit game. Imagine you have 10-15 hours to play in a week and they reset your progress every 3 months. You will never enjoy the most fun gear this game has to offer and you will only be on a level playing field the first day of the wipe. The next day peopel will be 5-10 hours ahead of you if they focus on single tree and rush the OP shit

They need to seriously curb the XP requirements. I don't know if even 2x would be enough which they obviously won't do.
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>>582833501
>>582834854
was too busy clutching in cs2 to reply to the correct post
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>>582835478
Sorry, Vision Man said XP is fine. Trust the vision.
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>>582835604
In that case, I predict this game is going down to mixed in rating on the wipe day
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>>582833136
erm you unlocked ghillie but now you have to grind to unlock heat vision goggles so you can grind to unlock the .50 cal so you can finally play the game and have fu- oh looks like its time for season reset
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one redeeming thing about this game is the VC is like a mw2 lobby. there's always a bunch of people shouting nigger at the start and when someone starts bitching about it 10 people pile on top of him and berate him calling him a faggot bitch.
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>>582835867
NTA but with the wipe being in 2 weeks and me being nowhere near any fun shit despite putting in a lot of hours i'm about ready to just wait for wipe...or I was until i saw vision man say the XP curve is fine because that's absolutely fucking retarded even with 3 month long seasons instead of this 1 month one it's unreasonable to grind out because you're just going to have 2 extra months of people with endgame shit while you're catching up just do it all AGAIN down the line
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I don't understand. Is it a problem that you have to grind to unlock thermal goggles or is it a problem that everyone has them because people sell them in the boxes at spawn?
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>>582836490
its a problem everyone has them, but they should be removed desu, spotting is kinda fun but just seeing everything is a little lame
>scan ridge
>ok its clear
>15 men push up in hotzone ball
>its actually clear
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>>582835604
nigger what
he has not. the exact opposite actually, he's acknowledged how shit the grind and endgame XP is, and the massive miss of not hosting official infantry-only or level-capped servers
and explicitly that this first wipe is so short because they wanted to see how progression pans out in the real world so they may adjust it for the first 'proper' wipe

>>582835478
if it's any consolation they've acknolwedged that wipes always sting and they hope, fingers crossed, that they can go wipeless with 1.0 if they can find a way to make that work.
but regardless, at the very least, they will be adding additional ways of progression that will not wiped at all and those systems are THE main thing on the road to 1.0
(and yeah holy fuck i'm like 16-20 in every role and what an absolute mistake not specializing in just 1 or 2 is. at least it's a short wipe's the best wipe to learn that lesson. probably.)
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i went driving first for this wipe since i thought it would be hard to deliver passengers later. once people unlock the rocket heli you should just not bother with driving unlocks, everything you unlock will be useless at 20 points ingame which sometimes is 10 mins in.
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>>582835478
the people that maxed everything out in the early weeks are fucking nerd poopsockers who played optimally every second of the game or cheaters
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>>582837250
>they can go wipeless with 1.0 if they can find a way to make that work.
They will not. Tarkov couldn't, and since this game is dead set on repeating every single mistake tarkov ever made they will repeat this one as well.
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>>582836432
this happens on the subreddit before the mods delete/lock anyone in favor of free speech. i finally just got unbanned from the discord for calling someone brown lmao.
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>>582833136
this is how it works for most high-tier loadouts (and how it should work)
i like to get medic gear and heavy armor and go around solo in a machine gun humvee
it costs about 25k and i virtually never break even unless i manage to live for like 1/3 of the match
but that's okay because later when i need money i can just spend 2400 on a large hammer and turn it into 100k without thinking
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>>582837250
>i'm like 16-20 in every role and what an absolute mistake not specializing in just 1 or 2
16-25 takes 5x longer than 1-15. If you exclusively played only one role you could be close to 30 (only half way to 35 btw)
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>>582837597
i also experienced this, but then i started carrying verbas and paying attention to helicopter sounds
rocket birds are surprisingly easy to bully
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>>582835478
why should i care about people who have 10 hours a week to play
they're a fundamentally different kind of gamer and i don't want them in the games that i play
also i unlocked my first level 35 at around 150 hours played (driving, so i also had support 33 and medic 28) so you must suck at the game
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>>582839967
this is simply not true because the rate is not constant
getting ahead of the curve is significant increases in XP rate, for example getting the galil when most people are on the ak means you win many more fights, or having rocket copter before people have verpas means you're much less contested
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>>582840802
>150 hours played
>no job
>mains logi driver
holy autism
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>>582841051
i get what you mean but galil and ak are extremely similar in terms of performance
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>>582841097
I want to see what he looks like. I'm guessing troon. This fucking sperg will be here shitting up the general until it fucking dies btw
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>>582841097
>sucks so much at the game his only recourse is to insult his betters
improve yourself or fuck off
based brammer has made a game that is NOT for tourists
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>>582840336
i doubt your claims since the verba is 20 tons and will just miss but also has a very slow projectile so even if you force a flare by the time its close they can flare again. which sound option are heli under because they are practically silent sometimes.
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>>582842174
NTA but I started carrying a verba with me everywhere. A third of the time you point that thing at a helicopter it will crash without even having to shoot the missile. Almost all of the other pilots flee the moment they start getting pinged.
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>>582841639
its probably the 14 year old brown with the favela outlets
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>>582842657
yea it's exactly this
it's not about shooting them down (though sometimes you can) but forcing them into a defensive posture where they're not shooting your vehicle
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>>582840802
>>582841743
is this satire?
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>>582843562
>others are so much better than him, he thinks it must be a joke
a sadly common coping mechanism among lesser men
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>>582842657
>>582843503
do you play at normie times? every time i use it the pilots just hold flare and ignore me and continue to mulch people with rockets. occasionally some sperg will flop and crash.
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>>582844050
you're a noodle-armed freak too? no wonder you have an inferiority complex
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>>582844172
>you're a noodle-armed freak too? no wonder you have an inferiority complex
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>>582843562
Kind of crazy that its 50/50 on if he is a dedicated autistic troll or a legitimately deranged autistic retard. The internet was a mistake.
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>>582835478
>everything and everytime must get curbed gutted and shredded to be digestible for a braindead niggerfaggot who works 100+ hours a week has 40 kids
that's how we get disposable games that get solved in a month by the most drooling retard and everyone moves on
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>>582844949
Yes, someone who consistently plays an average of 1 match per day should be able to max out at least one (1) skill during a wipe. Games are solved in 2 weeks tops anyway thanks to neets.
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>>582845846
>should be able to max out at least one (1) skill during a wipe
you're gonna have 3 to 4 times as much time for every wipe after this one, i don't see why is everyone chimping out
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>>582846107
1 hour a day is only 90 hours with 3 months, not enough time to hit 35 in a single skill.
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>>582833206
i like to throw smoke grenades on the people i down and then run in and drag them well back behind our lines and strip their kits and throw them on the ground so they despawn well before they have any chance of being revived
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>>582846107
it doesn't matter. people that progress faster by sinking time in are always going to have the advantage and once it gets to a certain point it becomes almost impossible to progress against those players. the system is completely retarded and doesn't work. maybe that's the point though, they get a core base of addicts who lord over anyone that doesn't play 10 hours per day and then they sell cosmetics to them

i'm going to laugh when they introduce cross play and up the the controller aimbot
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I am 30 hours in and I have NEVER won a game
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>>582846793
you can easily max a single skill in half or even a third of that time for some
>i want to max it by fucking around between 6 different roles
sure buddy
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>>582846793
casuals with not enough time to play games and far too much time to post on reddit and twitter have already ruined most games
let's hope they don't ruin this one
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>>582833501
>>582834854
would you look at that, I was right?? holy shit
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>>582847045
winning has almost no impact at all on the rewards you get btw fwiw
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>>582847045
Try another server, some servers are just stacked to hell
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>go assault
>go negative
>sit at FOB like a fucking pussy
>net positive
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>>582844050
i just want to know how this is actually possible
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>>582847447
I want to have fun with assault rifles but i'm constantly punished for even trying, no wonder there's so many fobbits and logi drivers
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Everyone in game makes fun of me for talking about piss bottles but they areactually really fucking helpful.
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>>582847053
>umm actually you can max out driving by delivering crates and respawning for 40 hours straight
>umm actually you can max out recon by looking at helicopters for 50 hours straight
Wow you sure showed me. I don't understand why you people want to play the fucking game like a job. Just get a real job ffs
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>>582847840
>i don't wanna play that way
nobody is stopping your faggot ass from holding W into the yellow or hammering away at a fob
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Wow this game isn't fun anymore. Now they're adding rain to the shittiest map in the game.
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>>582847785
I once told some snake ass bitch former friend that I pissed in a bottle and he turned around and twisted my words implying that's all I do and I got a ton of mockery for it.
Don't tell anyone about the piss bottles they don't care for reasons just the act.
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>>582805707
It's nice that this game is early access, I'm probably going to refund it in a few weeks. The CEO being a bad person in addition to being retarded also helps my conscience.
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>>582849457
I hate when my mom throws away bottles in my room because then I don't have any good ones to pee in and have to use a can with no lid or the garbage can. Super annoying.
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There were 2 spots you can get in right next to each other on this base
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>he actually *wants* to grind monotonously for hundreds of hours every wipe
Natural slave. In a just world these "people" would be worked to death in a bauxite mine.
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>>582853703
The person who shills it in this thread works graveyard shift 1AM-10AM 40 hours a week in a warehouse. It's the modern equivalent of slaving in a bauxite mine, but the progress imposed on society by people who don't have insectoid morals like him means that we aren't allowed to work him to death anymore. Because video games are low-stakes, his regressive morality is allowed to shape grind systems for those games. Ironic.
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>no heli transport
>apc down
>leave game
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>>582854209
Not working him to death really isn't fair for society or him. Unnaturally extending his life to feed and degrade consumer culture not only causes a negative effect on society but is inhumane for him. If this is what progress looks like I think we need to go back to a more primitive and sane time.
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>>582853432
starting to think the builders are some kind of giant secret brotherhood of autistic retards
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>>582855895
The ones in the brotherhood build "modular prefab" bases (a bunch of fire shelters strung together with walls). Although they are hard to assult on foot, they quickly turn into the perfect mortar death box.
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>some guy is mad at me for some unfathomable reason
>chases me around and tks me
>i kill him in self defense
>he respawns and chases me again
>i kill him again
>i get banned for tking

this is getting tiresome
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https://www.reddit.com/r/WarDogs/comments/1wtqcmm/trust_the_ghillie/
please forgive the reddit crosspost but i don't know how to rip the video for a webm reupload
>>582833136
personally i would post up outside of FOBs with a BMR or SVD (preferred the SVD for the silencer) and just whack people as they came out
they'll invariably not give up (they should) even after dying in the open to someone they can't see, so that'll draw in medics
then you get more and more people pulled into saving your first casualty
generally i just stuck it out until i died but it's very easy to find opportunities to disconnect between waves of mooks
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>>582853703
I was hoping they'd decrease the xp requirements (or at least make it more linear) and increase the cost in cash (for buying to equip) for higher tier items. That way the high tier items wouldn't be locked to sweatlords and neets that grind it out in a single 20 hour day but also stop them from being used exclusively once they're unlocked. Ideally though the high tier items wouldn't be just straight up better than the lower tier ones, but instead more specialised. I doubt the devs would ever change their design philosophy like that though.
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>>582859507
yt-dlp son
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Has anyone tried doing battlefield style jihad jeeps with C4 on humvees? Picrel. I tried with 12 c4 on a littlebird a while ago but it didn't work at all.
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>>582860428
i see c4 humvees all the time
the amount of seethe they induce is hilarious
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>>582859694
the best weapons should only be usable by the best players, and based brammer understands that
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>>582860714
What did I do wrong with the LB? How close do you have to be?
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>>582860714
how effective do they work as a FOB breacher? I wanna try some allah ackbar shit but i get spotted and die before any of that shit happens. I usually try to buy the most inexpensive shit and IED MGS style but that is the most boringest shit ever.
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>>582861036
i’ve never tried suicide vehicles in this game so i dunno
>>582861572
dunno
but i would test for yourself in the shooting range to see if you can throw c4 out of the humvee windows, similar to how you can shoot weapons
if you can throw the sticks out, just do that to breach
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>>582859694
Instead the economy system is basically pointless. It's part of the devs vision. Trust the plan.
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>>582860428
a little bit, need a second person for the best results
a funny variation of this is to buy a littlebird and a crate, stick c4 to it, and then drop it on your target and detonate
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I teamkill every supply box in spawn with thermals that I see
I then swap between teams to break all the spawn shops with thermals.
If devs wont nerf em I will at least make sure they aren't as prolific in every match.
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>spent all game spotting
>barely a quarter level on recon
damn dude... how the fuck do people grind this shit late in the game
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>>582865464
Well first you have to pray this guy >>582863985 isn't in your game
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I loved KotH in Arma3. I bought the game played two rounds but it's very far removed from KotH.
With KotH every map was in a city. Both rounds I've played and all the streams I've watched the circle is always in the middle of nowhere in the woods. What gives?
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So the MAAWS costs more than the RPG, it weighs more, the missiles weight more, it costs more, the missiles don't go as far and it does less damage BUT the ammunition takes up one less slot each in your bag. That's the only advantage I can see.
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>>582848959
>shittiest map in the game.
They're all dogshit. Bakurani is the best one and its still horrendous. Everyone who designed Ozeti should be doxxed and banned from working in the game industry ever again.

Awful fucking maps will do as much damage to this game in the long-term as the progression system, terrible balance, and the fact that shit like thermals exist.
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>>582863985
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>>582868786
dog it's armor piercing
it's completely superior to the RPG which struggles against targets the MAAWS one-shots
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if you set tactical items like claymore or C4 then do those disappear after you die?
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>>582871178
claymore at least lasts forever, ive put a claymore down and gotten a kill 15 minutes later way after i forgot i put one down
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>>582868786
The Carl G actually deals damage, unlike the RPG which fires giant NERF darts. Seems like a pretty big advantage to me.
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>>582863985
I saw a guy put down 15 different boxes full of 50 cals, ammo, thermals, ghillie suits

Someone broke em all and the guy probably lost like 750,000
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>half the EU server is chinese
>the chat is all chinese
>can't go anywhere because of genuine hacks
regionlock can't come soon enough, if it ever comes
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>>582871724
>still pissing and shitting xirself about the yellow man's objective superiority
Sad!
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>>582796668
>Why does it have that if we’re visually acquiring targets
They need to let it intercept mortars or rockets if it's gonna keep that thing.
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how tf you lock an atv
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>>582871724
>Blue has a stack of cheaters that is just farming kills while also being monumentally dogshit at the game
>Team medics going fucking wild with >20 rezzes per defib user
>Our 3-4 FOB builders on red don't have large hammers and are doing fucking nothing game impact wise apart from tanking mortars all game (Not a single person is running logistics anyway)
>Green, who haven't even been competing for HZ all game, decide to start a drill pull when red is it 90
>Still clutch it hard and bring home the achievement
Insane round. I feel like the gameplay was kinda shit, though. It was like 40mins of massively outnumbering everyone in combat and 20 of those minutes was dodging attack helis.
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New addition: fentanyl
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>>582871724
>>582872182
Ah fuck, didn't mean for that to be a response. Enjoy the free (you).
It is kinda insane to me that the devs are aware of the severity of cheating, but still chose to take the bag from chinks and allow high ping cheaters to go ham.
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88,000 damage? did i get hiroshimad wtf
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>>582871869
yellow man doesnt want to play in asia servers because they are full of cheaters so the yellow man comes to EU servers to dunk on legit players
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A true classic. It's not complex or over designed, just a nice clean jump into the base.
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>>582872636
It's more commonly;
>Sever space is incredibly scarce in china, and often servers are full, so 20-40% of chinks will not buy your game because they don't want to wait for queues to get in after work
combined with
>Cheating on chinese servers without serious opsec will lead to you eventually getting negative social credit and/or jailtime. None of this is visited upon cheat creators that focus their sales on overseas markets or games made by western devs, and is mostly targeted at people who fuck with the income streams of gacha games
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>>582872636
>another gweilo blames cheats when he's defeated by the yellow CHAD
even in gaming, they simply have more drive and ambition than decadent western consoomers
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>>582872881
>tard fell for the social credit meme
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>>582872918
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>made 9 friends that are girls on WD tonight
FUCKIN PIMP STATUS
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>maintenance
>ALL servers go down
wtf really? couldn't just 1 region maintenance per hour?
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>>582873413
the only non-tranny females who play games like this are the ones who are semi reluctantly dragged into it by their aspie husbands
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>>582873535
>any region can play in any server with no restrictions
>you post this shit
apologize for being retarded
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>>582873413
>use a girly nickname
>use a voice changer
>get free shit and self-sacrificial squad mates
I do this in mmos too and the amount of free shit you get when neckbeards smell a chance at some pussy is ridiculous
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>>582873639
i don't know what you're talking about. my game ended for a server shutdown. i refresh every region and all servers eventually went down. restarted and can't login for now
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>>582873837
ITS A PATCH BUDDY, AN UPDATE
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>>582873413
>girls
somebody has to tell him
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>>582873706
naw they sent bobs when they realized how alpha i was
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>patch prevents throwing shit out of a car
Fuck yes
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PSA: MAINTENANCE WINDOW
WARDOGS will be entering a maintenance window today at 8:00 UTC, estimated to last 1 hour. Services will be offline while we deploy update 0.1.2.


>Update 0.1.2 Patch Notes
>This minor update is aimed at thwarting some of the recent XP & cash exploits and security issues seen since the early access launch, including a fix for the Windows WD-L020 crash error.

>This update also includes minor UI changes to help increase traffic toward Infantry Mode and Low-Level servers, as well as some other minor quality of life improvements.

>Key Updates for 0.1.2
>Windows 11 'WD-L020' Crash Error Fix

>Bug & Exploit Fixes: Egregious cash & XP exploits have been addressed alongside various gameplay bugs that were damaging the integrity of fair play.

>Server Browser: New ‘Deploy’ UX flow intended to better highlight the existence of ‘Infantry Mode’ and ‘Low Level’ community servers.

>WD-L020 Crash Error Fix

>Fixed the issue caused by the latest Windows 11 update, KB5124010, causing the recent WD-L020 crashes.

>Cash & XP Gain Exploits Fixed

>Revive action validity checks are now fully server authoritative, reducing the possibility of this being abusable across the map.

>Fixed vehicle fly through exploit, rewards are now capped.

>Any rewards for destroying buildables now scale with their build progress - so destroying a placed schematic no longer gives a full reward.

>Depositing pallets into a FOB outside the zone now awards reduced rewards.

>To be clear – anyone who has been caught abusing Cash & XP exploits, or worse Real Money Trading, has had their cash and progression reset and risks being permanently banned. We expected season 01 to have several undiscovered exploits, so up to this point we have been more lenient with first time offenders. That leniency is now over.
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>>582874527
>We have zero tolerance for economy abuse and players now risk being permanently banned without warning if caught abusing repeatable unintended exploits.

>Server Browser & Minor UI Improvements

>New ‘DEPLOY’ UX Flow. Hit deploy and choose Official, Community, Infantry Mode or Low-Level servers. This is the first step intended to help signpost players toward servers running these modifiers.

>Advanced Filters have been added back to the Official servers list.

>Long server names are no longer truncated. Hover over an entry to see the full server name.

>After you click Join, you'll see that you're connecting, then your place in the queue if there is one.

>Anonymous mode now hides the server name on the loading screen, just like Streamer mode. The server name in the pause menu also stays hidden unless you choose to show it.

>Region select now shows how many regions you have selected.

>Gamepad is now supported on the DEPLOY selection screen.

>Community Servers (for Server Admins)

>Scheduled restarts: you can now set a daily restart time (UTC).

>RCON AllowedHosts: you can now set this to restrict who can access RCON.

>RCON message and broadcast lengths are now capped.

>RCON now defaults to Standard response detail instead of Full, and config responses no longer expose server internals.

>ServerImageURL is now checked when the config loads.

>Server Stability Improvements

>Various server stability hotfixes.

>Increased server security to prevent exploitation.
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>>582874527
>>>Fixed vehicle fly through exploit, rewards are now capped.
What exploit even was this?
>Depositing pallets into a FOB outside the zone now awards reduced rewards.
I thought it already worked this way...
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>>582874603
>Bug Fixes

>Throwables (grenades, smoke, and C4) can no longer be used from enclosed vehicle seats.

>The adaptive crosshair now correctly hides while aiming down sights.

>Fixed buildable crit spots reappearing in the same place you just hit, getting pushed into corners, or jumping to the far side of a structure. They now favour a spot you can reach from where you're standing.

>Fixed a Havoc bug causing increased damage taken from 20mm and 30mm cannon fire.

>Improved localisation translations.

>Looking Toward Season 02.

>For those looking for more significant updates, Season 02 is planned to be a larger content update, with new map conditions, equipment, balance reworks and additional features.

>More information on Season 02 will be dropping next week.
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>infantry only
Is this truly infantry only or infantry+land vehicles
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>>582863985
Based. Row row fight the powah. Fuck the poopsockers trying to set up their gay little ponzi schemes.
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>patch removes all fun

MANY SUCH CASES
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>>582872881
>Cheating on chinese servers without serious opsec will lead to you eventually getting negative social credit and/or jailtime
This is not a thing at all. 90% of Chinese gamers play on international Steam and don't comply with local gaming-related laws to begin with.
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Queue's up.
>>582875397
....It's really that bad? huh.
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>>582875339
What, laying mines from a humvee or shooting the Havoc with the CIWS?
Those are pretty much the only balance fixes
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>>582875003
its infantry + "unarmed" helis, which means even more GL heli rape than normal.
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>>582874603
>We have zero tolerance for economy abuse and players now risk being permanently banned without warning if caught abusing repeatable unintended exploits.
>We have zero tolerance
>But instead of banning you we will tolerate what you've done and issue this mildly worded warning.
Cucks. I bet they aren't even going to ban anyone for the shadow or nvidia inspector exploits. These devs are pathetic.
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>>582875506
Throwing C4 from passenger seats is something i've seen humvee players doing.
Then again, the only people i've seen doing it in OCE are the same squad of Aimbot and wallhack cheaters, presumably because doing it without guarantee of killing with a c4 is a lot of money down the drain. No love lost.
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>>582875003
no attack helis or tanks or aa, but still m249 cars, mortars, drills, and fobs so the actual infantry player experience is functionally the same
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>>582875003
Infantry mode only allows every vehicles up to M249 kodiak/Ural only, no humvees etc.

Also only allows lakota and non weapon LB too
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this shit isn't moving at all
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>>582875839
It hasn't been 30 minutes yet in the one hour downtime
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>>582875883
oh kek I missed the line about it lasting 1 hour my bad
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>Depositing Pallets into non CZ FOB now only gives 10% exp and cash

NOOOOO STOP MAKING STEALTH AA BASE YOU WILL BUILD FOBS ONLY INSIDE CZ

PLAY AS YOU LIKE EXCEPT WHEN WE TELL YOU OTHERWISE
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>>582875958
>YOU MAY BUILD OUTSIDE THE CZ IF YOU THINK IT MAY BENEFIT YOUR TEAM
>NUH UH NOT LIKE THIS
like why
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>>582875958
They just don't want people building bases just to farm experience in the middle of nowhere.
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>>582876152
okay so just region lock china
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>>582875958
>>582876091
>>582876152
it's because people built fobs right next to the spawn point to farm
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>>582875958
>>582876091
Despite the insane amount of fun one single person can have building an Anti-air intercept base, it completely fucking annihilates the chance of your victim's team winning as the time investment it takes to stop you is beyond insane. I don't blame them.
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>>582875958
>>582876091
it's not enough actually, you deserve worse for being aa base faggots
setting up aa right outside enemy hq is not cool, or BASED, or even beneficial, you're just being annoying faggots who dont contribute to your team and will die to the first guy who comes for revenge
in fact, if you're not in a vehicle, you should start losing money outside the cz fuck you
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>>582876226
>>582876231
this does nothing to those strats btw this is literally just for farm abuse.
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>>582876152
>>582876220
Yeah it's so much better when they farm XP by dropping it in the CZ but not at any fob. These devs are fucking shit. They care because people are farming too fast for their grindy vision, not because the way people grind ruins the game.
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>>582876220
>>582876226
then just make a "support" circle around the CZ and dump rewards even further outside both
it's extremely helpful to your team but it doesn't pay jack fucking shit

>>582876231
heliniggers deserve the fucking rope kys
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>>582876231
>dont contribute to your team
>kill enemy helis

???
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>>582876231
>in fact, if you're not in a vehicle, you should start losing money outside the cz fuck you

>sit in car and wait for helicopter to fly by
>jump out to shoot stinger then jump back in
>everyone bails to not lose their kits
>they all bleed money while hiking to the circle
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>>582876543
How many stingers can you carry in a car anyways?
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>>582876231
lol ok retard
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>>582876581
Shit only takes up 1 vehicle slot no matter how big or small it is. No idea why they didn't do proper inventories for vehicles.
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>>582876480
>>582876543
>lock heli
>he flares and flies low
>comes back with rockets/kill squad and rapes you
retards
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>>582876656
Damn... I might need to be a total nigger in my next game.
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>>582876220
>>582876152
you can still build normally, the pallets just don't give much xp anymore. Nothing about building
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>>582876693
>thinks transport helis can be fucked to do all that in random servers
lol
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>>582876693
>wasting time of an entire kill squad and a heli alone
>not helping your team
you're not very bright are you?
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>>582876753
I do it all the time, if I have passengers and I know there's a faggot fob on the way to the cz, we're taking a detour and killing you
if it's past 20 points, I'm getting a rocket bird and killing you, then landing and putting an ied on your gay retard fob
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>>582876693
>just flare and fly low goy
lol
lmao even
>comes back with rockets/kill squad and rapes you
no one will want to join your "kill squad" because that will mean losing money while they are on top of a mountain chasing after a single guy in a car who just drove away
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>>582876875
no, because you're just being a jumpscare on the way to the cz the first time around, and then a target for maybe 3 minutes the second go, while the pilot is dropping bodies on the cz that will actually play the game
>>582876956
>in a car
retard can't even follow the conversation
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>>582877064
>retard can't even follow the conversation
wrong >>582876693
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>>582876917
you getting thid mad is why people do it. i dont even care if it loses me money. making heliniggers seethe to the point they have to come hunt me down is absolutely hilarious
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>>582877163
>>582877164
again, zero reading comprehension
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>>582877265
You're brown
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>>582868786
???
CG kills humvee in one side hit
RPG needs at least 3
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>>582875958
you're gonna deposit like 2 pallets into a "stealth" FOB
it changes nothing
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>enemy APC parked next to our APC
>plan to put IED on enemy and then drive ours away
>fuck it up by accidently getting inn the passenger seat and being too slow before it blows to get away
and as I type this I realize I was extra retarded because I could have just driven ours away and then blown the IED, I was relying on the delay between calling and boom like an idiot
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i bought witcher 3 remastered since i was tired of wd and god damn this game sucks ass. refund.
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>>582876454
>then just make a "support" circle around the CZ and dump rewards even further outside both
That was my first thought yeah, i've also been saying for a while the hot zone should be 2 circles as well, people too pussy for the real zone can go in the outer zone
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>>582881894
I just brought the new princess maker that left early access today
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>>582881894
you can choose to install the earlier version without the remaster shit
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>>582882530
i doubt i'd like it either way meanwhile i have 867 hours in crimson desert
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>>582875585
Everything about the way they design this game points towards the idea that a few people should have a massive advantage over the other 90%.
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>try infantry only
>land on red team
>proceed to get double-giga-fisted by both blue and green simultaneously
>like lemmings, we get trapped in a cycle of everyone going back to the same fight to die at it -> everyone's at the same dogshit fight -> reinforcements go right back to it
>shift+tab
>-60k loss
easiest disconnect of my life holy shit
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>>582884403
skill issue
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>>582884468
true, shame that it was a team-wide one
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how are the low level servers currently? those sound interesting but I wont have a chance to play until later
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>can't join low level servers if you're over the level
what the fuck that's gay as hell I just want to be capped I hate the endgame stuff in this game
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>>582885443
>>582885596
They should've made unlock limits on the low level servers so high levels can join in if they're feeling up using low tiers only but no

The devs are retards
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>you can only join infantry servers if some fuckhead hosts it
Ah yes, Im at the mercy of FAL and AMRs on official servers or get kicked by a power tripping admin
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>>582885596
>>582886327
Yeah it's dumb. If you know the end game is gonna be shit (which brammer admitted they did) then make a mode with only early game unlocks. Wardog level 30, career level 15 max. Massive oversight by the devs to limit it to only low level players.
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>>582886901
But those are present on infantry only too?
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>>582886901
nvm for some reason steam didn't update the game yet i was able to log in fully
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No wait it IS community servers. So Infantry and Low level servers are still run by randoms. It's so over
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>>582886945
It honestly seems like they are just throwing band-aid solutions at the problem (the end-game balance) that will only cause a split in the playerbase and make things even worse. Diamond in the rough kind of game, but the way they are starting to cut this thing doesn't inspire much confidence.
Fixing the end-game is going to be a never-ending rope dance for sure, but basically ignoring the problem and covering it with arbitrary progression, wipes and gamemodes isn't going to help the game forward.
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great, they gave me a deagle with prejac issues
thought all their hosting was done through hand-selected partners, didn't know dogshit unplayable was on the menu
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>>582849759
you cant refund it with 100 hours played retard, and if you are below 2 hours, stfu and get out of the thread
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Holy shit the vector is insane lmao
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>>582887527
well, silver lining, they consider it the single biggest failure of launch, the fact that they didn't make these alternative modes easily discoverable and that they didn't host any officially. so uh, maybe they'll host some officially within the week...?
my main complaint is that i hate how they've implemented the 'filters'
have too much cash on hand? no, we're not going to soft-limit* your wallet, you're actually just completely barred. want to play with and against only pre-cancer unlocks? yeah sorry no, it's a profile-level filter. sorry bud. you're gonna take your ass to official and you're going to abuse the endgame whether you like it or not.
maddening. continuing to trust in the vision. let us pray that its gaze crosses this feedback and that it may be subsumed by the glorious sight, o glorious sight
*as in, treating the whatever the cash-limit's been set to as your checking account for the match (i.e. leaving and rejoining would not reset gains/losses) and then having the rest of your money locked up in savings.
and then probably pair that with the choice of whether the money limit is a soft-limit (cash earned in match can exceed it, so you could have pseudo-escalation) or a hard-limit (excess cash goes to your 'savings')
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My latest annoyance is when the large group of players chasing the HZ is incapable of pulling out of a suicidal situation. It doesn't matter how many smokes I use or how many people I revive or how many honks I do with my humvee or how many times i tell them to get in so we can move to a better place.
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Anyone done solo tanking? Is seat switching just too cancer for it to be worth it?
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i don't understand how anyone can play this game solo, having to rely on randoms has to be so infuriating
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How likely is it they amend low level to "sync down" players? I had most fun in the wardog level 50-60 range but i'm coming up on 90 and i'm unable to play the low level servers even though I really want to. I hate that the current meta is no-lifers dropping supply crates of endgame shit and if your team doesn't have someone doing it you're fucked
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>>582891151
I like when
>team is successfully holding and capping the HZ
>some enemies show up
>we're doing ok
>HZ starts moving
>team stays behind to keep engaging
>situation getting worse and we're being bogged down
>rather than get a better position and chase HZ they all just die
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The more they nerf progression for the average person the more they empower the cheaters.
Now we got faggots join a game, aimbot half the enemy team with a ciws and quit before anyone can report them, then 5 minutes later join with a different name and do it again.
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>>582894318
Well they could make daily missions or make the first X experience you earn each day worth 10x, but that opens up an entirely different can of worms for people to complain about.
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>>582893334
well excuse me for having no friends
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>>582893354
>no havoc
>no humvve minigun
>no thermals
>all of the above and more
community servers should fix this maybe its too early but I cant see a reason other then only faggots run servers.
>>582895260
you don't have to be sorry
you can always join a c*rd
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>>582893354
They've repeatedly proven themselves to be poor decision makers so i'd say it ain't happening
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>>582894604
It's not merely a different can of worms, it's entirelt antithetical to the devs' stated direction of the game. Daily missions are the main tool of asswipe fomo skinnerbox bullshit and disrespectful of players who want to just play on their own terms and time.
>>582894318
They won't nerf progression so much as they will move the curve around. Ideally you put enough good weapons and utility on the front end so average and casual players can still compete while the grind will be just for the designated power weapons each season.
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>finally unlock aa launcher
>its fucking single shot
ok so I can only kill pilots that are retarded or hovering low enough that they don't have time to react to the launch while simultaneously high enough that I can still lock
what the actual fuck why did you people recommend this thing as a helicopter counter?
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>>582876152
then just make it so there's a radius outside the CZ that still gives decent exp?
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>Depositing pallets into a FOB outside the zone now awards reduced rewards.
i know some anon talked about this
well here you have it. It's dead now.
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>>582900407
It's good if you have a truck full of them and if you have a buddy using it with you and if you time your shots against their flares and if the pilot is close enough that the missiles get to him before his flare comes off cooldown and if no one snipes you while you do this and if
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>>582900686
Someone made a video showing another guy doing it who had 3mil or some absurd number like 20 minutes into the match so it's that guy's fault
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>>582900407
you can kill helicopters that you saw used their flairs
you can kill helicopters piloted by retards
you can scare away helicopters
you can bring 2 launchers with backpack
you can bring 6 or 9 launchers with a car
you can bring a teammate with his own launcher

my only issue is that I don't seem to get assist XP and cash if my rocket triggers the flare, and a second rocket gets the kill. If it wasn't for the first rocket forcing the copter to flare, there would be no kill. So give me my fucking money. Please.
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>>582900407
>there are people who play this game that think this way.
stay on blue team
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Does this game play like planetside/planetside 2 at all? Or is it just arma koth standalone client.
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>>582900291
Getting stuc at level 15 progress in everything because I cant fucking nolife this game, im a wagie. Now I get triple fucked by everyone having T4 armor, all running with m4 AP, or a 50 cal thermal full ghille so i cant even build up before the helis start raping my ass. My whole game is farming 100k a round with a defib, the base smg, spamming white smoke and stealing gear like a cockroach. How is this respecting my time?
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>>582901190
>you can kill helicopters that you saw used their flairs
the flare cooldown is ridiculously low
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>>582902007
It does not play like those, no. It just happens to have three teams.
It's not like Arma either. Wardogs is relatively casual, it's closer to Battlefield 2. Or PUBG.
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>>582902491
>the game is shit right now so let's advocate to make it worse
Nah.
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>>582902768
Bad faith nigger go back to /pol/
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>>582903241
That's the pot calling the kettle black. You're the one who thinks me bashing daily missions is an endorsement of the game's current state. Learn to use your brain a bit before typing up the post.
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>>582903451
Then I think you lost the plot and replied to a different post. I dont want dailies and faggot GaaS shit in this game. I want Bad Company style progress where the first guns were solid all rounders and niche shit unlocked later. Also the RPG didnt suck hot shit.
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>>582903751
>Then I think you lost the plot and replied to a different post.
You replied to my post where I called someone out for wanting dailies, man.
>I want Bad Company style progress where the first guns were solid all rounders and niche shit unlocked later
That's almost exactly what I said I wanted in the game. What do you want from me?
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>>582894318
>>582900291
>>582902768
These are some of the most retarded nigger posts on this site.
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>>582903751
>I want Bad Company style progress where the first guns were solid all rounders and niche shit unlocked later.
This is also what Planteside 2 did btw. All the 3 starter rifles for HA were best in class or sidegrades to best in class for their faction. But nah, Joe Retard Nigger Wardogsman knows better, we should have gook MMO tier grind with shorter than Tarkov "seasons".
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>>582905787
Doesn't the starting t21 have a top 3 ttk?
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>>582906516
No? It's literally bottom of the barrel. All the lowest TTK are the 30-35 unlocks.
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>>582907210
Out of ARs I mean
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>pasted wrong file and outed myself as a phone poster
I'll just stop posting
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>>582907734
It shoots 556 so it's a shittier M4 with worse stats yes, what is your point? It's still worse than all the top unlocks.
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>>582680606
fag
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>pay for game
>now have to work a full time job to get access to the full game
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>>582727102
people refusing to join blue and then the server depops and dies
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>bro just alt f4 when you're downed you get full refund
that was a fucking lie
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>>582874620
>What exploit even was this
You could fly a helicopter under a bridge for a cash bonus that increased every time you did it, I assume thats what theyre talking about.
>I thought it already worked this way
Not sure about despositing specifically, but dropping off pallets outside the zone gave absolutely nothing. It was really annoying for the church FOB on Bakurani that was usually only half in the zone.
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>>582907897
Except it is in the top 3 for AR's and is only a fraction of the cost of the only 2 that beat it.
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>>582910119
no one is using the t21 in their load outs, you disingenuous shill. there's magazine capacity to factory in, recoil, attachments, handling and that chart you showed with ap ammo and if you have ap ammo unlocked you're not going to be fucking using the t21
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>buy artillery tank
>a dedicated MAWS team in a humvee is already enroute before you've even left base
>fire one shell
>they're already parked beside you and firing rockets so you die instantly
>look at pings
>russian niggers
this game's anti cheat is a joke and running artillery tank has shown me how many niggers are just straight abusing ESP. they have no info to go off of. but they drive out 6km in a humvee just in time to kill you every single time.
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>>582911121
6km drive btw. they just preempted exactly where an artillery tank would be shelling from from 6km away btw.
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>>582911121
artillery faggots get the rope
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>>582907897
>The starting weapon that costs 2 nickels and the free guns that are FREE, arent as good as the 50 hour grind gun that costs as much as a Toyota Camry.
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>>582911494
>defends rage hackers
hang yourself you chink/russhit nigger pig
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>>582910358
Ok? It's still top 3 AR you baboon when it comes to TTK
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>>582910119
>top3
Fucking anything below FAL has similar TTK you disingenuous black nigger scum, the other stats and the attachments are all locked behind higher levels including the higher cap mags. The difference is M4 controls significantly easier than all the previous weapons and every unlock before M4 is easily achievable for anyone, it's past Galil that the grind becomes cancer. Actually kill yourself.
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>>582911697
ttk isn't the only factor, you annoying autist, as i explained to your retarded ass. if the t21 was as good as you are claiming it is then you would see people running it, but you don't
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can you set up a hidden stingray fob with just some supplies and 2 pallets of mech supplies? mostly just been logifagging so far this game and getting gud with the helos.
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>>582910358
>>582911772
I don't understand the freak out. I could post a chart using FMJ and HP ammo where the t21 is still the 3rd fastest TTK which was the conversation.
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>>582912597
i genuinely despise autists like you
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>>582912123
BUDGET ANTI ARTILLARY AND ANTI APC STRATEGTY

1. Buy a rutsack backpack. 24 slots.
Fill it with a Fob. And the rest building supplies.

2. Buy a Ural. Fill it with mechanical pallets.

3. Find a spot outside of the circle that is a halfway point to the control zone and your spawn base. Elevation helps a lot.

4. Place the fob from your backpack. Unload the mechanical pallets into the fob. Then build the stingray using the building supplies in your backpack. Face the sting ray towards the team that is bombing your friends.

Optional 5. Build a repair and refuel station. And make 1 extra trip filling the base with more mechanical supplies and fuel. This will give your team a repair base that helicopters and other vehicles can use on the return trips. Even friendly SPH tanks.

This small remote base isn't perfect for killing arty tanks. But its an option for somebody to use either yourself or another person to help remove the problems that are farming your team for money.
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>>582912597
I said
>This is also what Planteside 2 did btw. All the 3 starter rifles for HA were best in class or sidegrades to best in class for their faction.

You said:
>Doesn't the starting t21 have a top 3 ttk?

Not only what you said was untrue until you specified you're talking literally just about ARs - which top 3 is half of them - you tried to use ttk as an argument as if the weapon is anywhere close to the actual top unlocks. Which is why you're a disingenuous black nigger scum. Now fuck off.
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>>582905787
>be NC retard planetman
>constantly destroyed by TR using CARV
>make a TR
>use CARV
>mfw
god i fucking miss planetside
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>>582912882
I'm still not getting your emotional response. Did you forget the meds? You don't have to be correct about everything. 3rd best TTK is 3rd best TTK.
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>>582913596
Arguing semantics is what people do when they don't have an argument or they know they lost it. I accept your concession.
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>>582913728
Who do you think you are, Sun Tzu? No semantics, just facts, and the facts say I'm right. Enjoy your day.
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>>582911121
to be fair they could have had a dedicated spotter watching the spawn and spotting things as they leave

ive seen that a few times but if you encounter it repeatedly at this point yeah
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>>582912862
>budget
>stingray
pick one
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>>582915279
nope absolutely no one watching they'd stick out like a sore fucking thumb. these niggers literally have precognition and just drive a straight 6km directly to where tanks are. they're just cheating.
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>>582916416
You earn the money back if you actually kill the high value targets and break even. It's only good for those two specific vehicles so it should be used sparingly in situations where your team wont actually kill the arty tank. The best way is still getting a guy with binos to spot the target and just sneaking up to it with a maw or c4.
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>>582916471
>they'd stick out like a sore fucking thumb
you say this but ive sat and watched people leaving spawn plenty of times with none the wiser
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Good news lads, the lasses likes the game.
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Play like you used to except when I don't like it
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>>582916736
8-9k for fob + backpack + supplies
800 for pallets
5k for stingray

ties you up in the middle of nowhere making it your only revenue stream, arguably higher risk, more expensive than c4 and if you're like me then all the apcs will end up parked in a garage and the artillery will get killed by someone else before you have a chance to make it worth your while
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>>582917539
I have had absolute dog shit matches where people will just let themselves get farmed by arty tanks the whole match. And I just hide in a spot and make a sting ray. It was way easier then trying to get a helicopter pilot to not fucking crash and sneak me in the backlines.
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>>582917795
yeah it seemed like a comfy little side game sometime when i wanted to do something different. arty hunting with the little bird has been fun, and just generally being a backline guerilla too.
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>>582916874
WAGMI
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>>582918706
Getting people to read chat is like pulling teeth. You put all 32 people into a squad or only have 5 high IQ people actually pay attention to team coms. Local coms only is fun. But absolutely nobody reads chat unless mogoloids are screaming at them in voip to read it.
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i didn't think the havoc was op before cuz you could just ciws in .2 seconds but now it's definitely just broken as fuck lmao what the fuck are these dumb fuck developers doing?
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>>582916874
that subreddit is probably the most astroturfed one i've ever seen. every other comment is mindless glaze from some literal bot, they could not be less subtle if they tried
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>>582919059
They want as much raw data as possible before they balance the game. And its actually very annoying. Because people are gonna hit max rank by the time progression wipe happens. Which is most likely why its taking them so long. They want to see how cancer the game gets when there is high ranked players just farming people.
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demoralising seeing how many cheaters play this already
>anti cheat update!
>does fucking nothing
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>>582919319
yeah that's what the reddit bots keep saying but they've been playtesting for like 2 years at this point (they were doing closed tests way before they even started the closed betas)
i think these guys are just retarded, don't actually play and the game is doomed. even if they're waiting between seasons to make balance changes, that's a bad enough decision to make it not worth playing
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>>582919501
>Heh, hey cheaters. We dare you to try to cheat in WardogsTM
>game is dominated by software-assisted yella fellas in less than a week
What did "John Wardogs" mean by this? I'm sure they're just "gathering data" though (that's gonna be the running joke about this game after it's dead because every time someone brings up a glaring issue that should be fixable in a week they're told the devs are just gathering data for le future)
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>join server
>1 team available
>they're getting absolutely raped
>this is literally every server
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>>582917795
>copter
dune buggy is stealthier
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>red builds 3 drills no mortar their base
>blue builds 3 drills no mortar on their base
>green place the initial groundwork for ONE (1) drill
>hyper accurate mortar spam, 2 helis circling base, a whole team comes out the woodwork and infiltrates
yall are such fags man i swear no wonder we're the hz team
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I am absolutely sick of late game unlocks being in my games but I cannot play low level matches because the devs are retarded monkey fags with impaired Vision™
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>>582919218
Team17 has dumped a shit ton of resources into the perception of this game. There's a lot of suspicions that Steam reviews are botted too.
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>>582919770
Why do you join full servers
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>>582920567
yeah this shit is so mindless it confirms to me that nobody in that studio is actively playing the game.
the problem isn't the generic wardogs level. you can be under level 50 and still have the havoc, arty tank, leopard, m4/fal, .50cal, thermals, whatever. anyone who plays the game for 5 minutes will realize that capping Wardogs level to 50 doesn't change any of the issues people are complaining about LMAO what the hell
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>>582919727
HEH TIME TO ACT ON 0 INFO AND JUST BEELINE DIRECTLY AT YOU
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>instantly pilot shot out of my LB three of them in a row while wearing t4 and all were headshot deaths by three different people
>all three of these people have 40+ kills
Back to BF6 I go. I can say a lot of terrible things about that game and DICE but cheaters are basically non-existent.
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If you hate the game then leave. We don't need you. We're cool with 5000 players.
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>>582922142
The preemptive coping should've been a red flag
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>>582902639
>Or PUBG.
It's even less like PUBG than any of what you named.
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>Bummer says they use AI to scrape insane amounts of data and that devs are retarded for not doing so
>Bummer refuses to use said AI to detect obvious cheaters with 60-0 90% headshot $300k per match
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>buff the havoc by fixing the ciws before the only counter in the game (gepard) is released
Genius level game development. Bravo. The insight is reaching levels I could not have previously fathomed
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We need a season 2 update ASAP before people start rioting
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>faggot fobbit on a mortar gets 0 kills all game
>except for teamkilling me
love it!
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>>582922970
ai cheat detection is a pipe dream. even at its most ideal implementation, it would be trivial to add features to cheats to throw off the detection and lower its confidence, therefore avoiding a ban to avoid a false positive. the real solution to hacker infestations is community servers with robust administration tools but the pandoras box has already been opened to give developers unlimited access to your machine and itll be a cold day in hell when they give that up.
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>>582922142
BF 2 Atacama only fast respawns 2000 ticket.
If faggot dice didnt pull the plug on the server search Id still be playing.
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>>582923842
telling an llm to flag anybody that meets x criteria is so braindead i don't know why people insist otherwise. nobody is getting 10 unscoped headshots in 5 seconds from 500 meters in the air off the side of a littlebird. using ai to flag extreme outliers is what's trivial
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>>582924352
you dont need an ai to catch ragehackers. their implementation of whatever ac theyre using is fucked to shit which is why youre seeing this constantly. that or if you want to be cynical theyre taking the nikita approach and letting them have their fun before banning so they can keep rebuying keys
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Reminder they won’t nerf helicopters because “muh battlefield nerfed vehicles too hard”

I never seen a chud dev this arrogant get given their first major break and still act like arrogant chuds I’m gonna enjoy this games downfall now
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