>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoWSet in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests, loot, graphics and much moreMany new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf ShamanMore than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Class Deep Dives Druid & Hunterhttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24301515>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - EU, PvP, Horde<Little Space> - NA, PvP, AllianceOld >>583002892
Lili is daughter-fu
>>583020679uoh
>>583020679ayo that is good Li li set. She gets get cub holes raped realy good
Comfy streams where?
>im not in the betaan anime image spammer made that post
I can't get this fucking song out my head monhttps://files.catbox.moe/invu8p.mp3
>>583020808payoppc
what went wrong and how will they fix it on the second go around?
Is healing easy / can you fuck something up? I am scared to do my first dungeon as healer bros...
Post worgen
Um? Bros?
>>583020679I wish people would make more art of her being fucked and being a slut. She is such a hot cub
I roll horde for superior orc dicks
>>583020902Cata was when the new gen writers took over.
Any chances for a real battle mage class? Not one of those holy posers or totem diddlers.
>>583020827Era isn't allowed to have balance patches, though.Didn't they continue having these interactions in TBC and Wrath?I'll admit I haven't played TBC since 2008 but I remember hearing that the class balance is way better there.
>>583020876>AI
if you are not playing a human or a dwarf you are not a real chud like us
I dont think people are understanding how significant being able to root indoors will beDruids have a reliable and spammable cc in dungeons now
>>583020876REST IN PEACE NATE HIGGERS
we lost to pedo furfags
This patch adds shaman tanks.Sorry to truke it.>>583021028Next patch bruddah.
>>583020915Do your best to minimize healing and you will succeed, it's not hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjiUnAp2OHsFavor the road traveled by few
Reminder that Ahlaundoh who is one of the biggest warrior parse monkeys ever and made the video everyone is referencing about the subject, said rage normalization is fine if Warriors get more tools to compensate for that, which is what Cata did
>>583021030>doesnt understandThe mindset you are taking is how Era ended up the way Era ended up through the course of its balance patches. Just being like>LOL LMAO WHO CARES JUST WING IT BROis what led directly to Era being Era. That mindset has been proven to be detrimental and self destructive. It can no longer be considered the best way to balance.
I'm not playing Forever today until after the update. I will be on here and /wowg/. What are you guys planning on doing?
>>583020915it depends on your group, if they are good they dont even need you thereif they are dogshit you have to do everything yourself and still get blamed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdFCE_1xuDE
>>583021089wow that's crazy, better make sure they don't do any damage to compensate for that
>>583020679>she's even younger in Forever
human hunnie on my way to Durotar/Mulgore for some 1v5 hardcore pvp
>>583020915Healing is the hardest job at low/mid level and the easiest job at top/high level.You'll be fine though it's never really hard.
games not changing at all 40 days from now. just release it already, you fat fuck
>>583021247But that's not what I'm describing.I'm saying you should balance, and care about balance, but also allow weird little interactions like Shadow Weaving to exist. You can just ignore them because they're fairly small on their own. If they become problematic, then you nerf them later. These kinds of things are what make the game feel like an RPG, just like having to carry soul shards in your bags or feeding your pet.Shadow Weaving was in TBC and TBC didn't have Era-tier class balance.
im alting too much guys
>>583020915Don't worry. If you do anything wrong you will just get reprimanded by your tank and will have to perform stress relief act for the party. It's all good fun.
>>583021440Youre just trolling at this point. Nobody capable of surviving puberty is this stupid by accident. Good day.
>>583020964Yes?
>>583021391the game has changed significantly in the last two weeks thoughbeit
>>583021496same I just got my first lvl 8
>>583021595me on the right
Ok i cant wait anymore im buying early access as a early birthday present to myselfI tried to be patient but i cant
>>583021323Im not even thinking about damage. Im thinking that druid is now basically a healer with polymorph.
Blizzard's only choice is capitulationThey need to make undead hunters an option and then name their main class trainer Kirk Neckshot.They MUST extend the olive branch.
>>583021678happy birthdayjoin wowfg
>>583021379agp tranny die die die
>>583021595Good news is that theres at least one person who understands the classic design style. The bad news is he is going to have to answer to some blue haired retail faggot.
>>583021672You look fucking awesome
>>583021221>minimize healingYou mean try to put healing spells into a short burst intervall to profit from mana regen after 5 secs?>>583021281>>583021532I don't want to get blamed though...>>583021383Okay I'm gonna do it today! Maybe!
Tom ellis is in olympus
>>583021496Alting in the beta doesn't count as alting, that's retardation, brother
>>583020915Healer is the lynchpin of the group unless the group outscales the content. Tank chooses the pace but Healer sets the ceiling.
>>583021605Name 5 "significant" changes
>>583021235Yeah but we're not getting that. Warriors don't have MS at only 20 cost (he's right, 30 cost is way too fucking high for MS), they can't charge in combat, they don't have Deadly Calm, etc. It didn't matter that rage was normalized in Cata because warriors had tons of buttons to press that just gave you free rage
>>583021748the only person they have to answer to is aggrend who is a fat neckbeard
>>583021748Surely he can overcome the almost entirely retoilet art team?
>>583020902Anything beyond Vanilla WoW is complete shit.Expansions like TBC and WotLK were riding the wave of greatness that Vanilla WoW left behind, once Bl*zzard (incompetent niggerfaggot company) eventually erased the last few meaningful pillars that the original devs left behind the game went down into a complete free fall.This of course was a slow, gradual process consisting of>the new, incompetent subhuman devs replacing the old game design choices>the playerbase slowly realizing that they're playing the raped corpse of a once brilliant gameOriginal Vanilla was lightning in a bottle, even if the original devs tried to replicate it at their peak they probably wouldn't be able to do it. It was simply a beautiful coincidence that we should have cherished instead of celebrating complete fucking shit expansions like TBC and Wrath that started the degradation.And yes I believe any retail player should have their heads chopped off.
>blood elves trannies hate them because they can't play bimbo doll and pretend they're white>"purists" hate them because they are something new>era autists hate them because they aren't OP>retoilets hate them because they're blue and they still have ptsd from sneedolands>after every dungeon I'm asked to do more>every time I stop in the city gooners stop by and inspect my characterYeah, I'm thinking sky elves are based. My sky elf will be blue and Horde.
>>583021798yeah how i fix
i think banning people for silly names isnt a good look
>>583021882If you want classic, then just play classic instead of the version that's explicitly adding shit to it. You're just going to make yourself mad
>>583021024Poop collection quests started in TBC lil pup
>>583020902Nobody wants to talk about how this basically happened to every mmo. The genre as a whole wont ever be like this again. Most other mmos back then had millions of players too, it wasnt just WoW. But over time new genres emerged and mmos became less fresh and cool.
>>583021980I'm not going to play Forever I'm just here out of spite.
>>583020902I still don't understand how Wrath maintained steady subs through like 10 fucking months of ICC
>>583022046Ok but can you tell me who asked, Mr Logposter?
>>583020964Why cant we have games with textures with that kind of style on the leftHas the art been lost to time or something
>always played hybrid classes or healers or other shitNO. NOT THIS TIMEI am going to be an Arms Warrior and go around in my big armor and swing a big sword and be a shitty braindead DPS selfish bastardand I'm going to have more fun than I ever have before, I can already feel it
>>583021960Play something else, get to 30 once it's out on a class or two, have some fun and then go play something else again while waiting for the real game
>hordejeets are back to their usual faux blacked roleplaywhy are they like this
post you're troon
>>583022126I'm rebuking the claim you've put forward on a public forum
>>583020876DUROTAR LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT TONIGHT
>>583021379You're gonna handle the greenskin menace on your own, bro?
>>583022180but what if i keepalting on release
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>583022173Warrior is a hybrid bro, stop smoking crack
>>583022125Lots of people left, but new people kept picking up the game. Where do you think the term wrath babies comes from
>>583022280you know what I meanI'm not going to tank or do anything like thatI'm just doing pure DPS for once and I don't care if it's suboptimal or whatever
>>583022249That is fine!
>>583020902Simply not adding high elves and removing the class stacking metafag cancer has already been a huge boon for the game. Future looks bright.
>>583021828>Wrath base damage increased ~50%.>Changed Eureka on every class to a 10% discount on Mana, Rage, or Energy abilities.>Cultivation now has a player-level requirement for every Herb. The level required is equal to the Herb’s level required to pick it divided by 5. Herbs that require a higher than 300 Herbalism skill to pick can be Cultivated at player level 60.>Improved Holy Strike removed from the Talent Tree. >removal of snapshotting from multiple abilities
>>583022207>decline of retail mentioned and questioned>point out that cata was when the new gen of writers took over and that its universally agreed upon that cata was the start of the declineAnd you reply with>BUT THE SHIT! THE SHIIIIIIIIIITSomeone get this logposter /b/tard out of here.
>>583022390<3
>>583022057SC2 is still to this day the most-played RTS by a pretty fucking huge margin. So no it's not inevitable>>583022329Wrath babies were not people who started with wrath, that's a misconception. Wrath babies are people who thought wrath was the way WoW should be from that point forward. Lots of people who started in vanilla were Wrath babies.
>>583022173do you want my windfury totem big bro
>>583022195Back in my day, Horde was the faction for edgy chuds - what happened?
WherearethePATCHIES THE NOTIES
Who is even going to play the sky elves on Alliance?I get the role of the sky elves as the dedicated "girlfriend race" on the Horde, but I cannot fathom why anyone on the Alliance would bother playing them when the Night Elves exist. The Night Elves are just better across almost every metric. Better animations, better skeletons, better racials, better lore, better flavor, better zones, easier access to the human/dwarf zones if you want to start there, so on and so forth. The only thing that sky elves have going for them is if you really, REALLY want to be an elf mage for some reason, the High Order has this sort of discount High Elf thing going on with an accommodating caster racial to boot. But most Skyborne I come across aren't mages. They're druids and hunters.
>>583022487I have no strong feelings about it ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
>>583022368>if i never tank i'm not a hybrid
>>583022125I think the story weight it carried outweighed all the shitty changes that came with it. Also IIRC barely anyone cleared Arthas.
>>583022525weebs, women and gooners
can i just make an orc warrior and play with 2h axes allthe time or will i fall behind because some sword or mace is better
>>583022436Nta but the problem with Cata wasn't really the writing, it's that they just changed too much shit mechanically.
why are horde players so mentally ill
>>583022525>Who is even going to play the sky elves on Alliance?Faggots who get laughed at
>>583022542yeah that's rightwhat are you gonna do about it nerd?
>>583020679adorwable
>>583022163unironically because most current Blizzard artists are not skilled enough.They are too indoctrinated into the "modern" Calarts/modern Pixar school of coloring and animation.Doing the kind of models you posted probably already made them spit blood for the amount of restraint that took them.
>>583022525
does literally not one person know when 30 is releasing
>>583022516Back in the 2000s being an ugly freakish person was considered an odd thing, and in 2026 being an ugly freakish person is considered progressive
>>583022590Heroic Arthas was the roadblock. Regular Arthas 10 and 25 both was world's easier.
Ngl, I believe monks would be a good inclusion, the gameplay really is fun as fuck, specially Brewmaster
>>583022525I like the owlcat form
>>583022525Is it just me or horde skelves have literally the worst set of racials in the game? And its not even close
The Horde stands with Tom Ellis.We will not forget this brave man's sacrifice nor the way he stood up to the Weimar Alliance when nobody else would.
I will not be subbing unless Blizzard adds back in dual wield Enhancement
>>583022731Today.
>>583022525Blood elves were always more popular than night elves and skelves are visually the same as belves.
>>583022525On alliance i can see people who want to maybe do a classic elf fantasy as a hunter. Sky elves with their feathers and tats kinda look like the WC2 elf rangers so you get that. They also can be mages so you get that silver covenant vibe too. I think they should be able to be priests as well to get the WC3 priest unit vibe and i loathe that they can be druids, i think their druid forms are the worst.With all that said, why the fuck didnt they just make them high elves instead of having to olympic gymnastic brain to try and fit classic staple roles that people have asked for decades
>everyone in the guild discord is talking about the things they will do to dodge getting banned for RMT goldThis problem is never going to be solved is it? Why pay to not play the game you're paying to play?
I don't feel so good...
>>583022847Both factions versions of skelves have the worst racials, now no one can claim they were a p2w race
>>583022516Lefties see the horde and orcs and think Africa and blacks. They aren't wrong it's just funny they also come to the same conclusion
>>583022868not part of classic wow sorry not sorry, enhance shaman is a big two handers one shotting RNG machine
>>583022525Despite the thread making fun of Horde for them, Ive seen fucking plenty on Alliance. >>583022617is probably accurate
wanted: indecent pictures of the high inquisitor
>>583022525Only plus for me is that you can have dark skin elfs. But the regular blue shade is really ugly imo.
>>583022919its insane how normalised it iseven people in the clique im in buy goldall these people need their characters deleted and forced to start overAFTER the ban expires
>>583022919I can't even imagine wanting to play with people who buy gold.
>>583022996again?
>>583021605no, it hasnt
>>583022882but what time today
>>583022969If you want 2H, Era is right there. The point of Forever is to develop vanilla wow, and dual wield Enhancement is literally what they chose to do the following expansion
>>583022926>drill sergeant and decorated veteran>vs.>punisher logo on phone case (he won't move in to save children from an active shooter)
>>583023047reminder it was always like this and it's why blizzard added the wow token in the first placethere is no other solution
why does frostbolt do twice as much damage as lightning bolt
the wowfg literature club book collection grows
>>583023109The time is in this day.
>>583022525Gays presumably if they pass up on the obviously superior option.
>>583023126they are not going to play it safe and do what people expect, sorry not sorryits more likely that they turn them into unarmed monksor give them ranged weaponsbet none of us expected that hah!
>>583023109Soon(TM)
>>583022919You have to accept these are uncs with high paying jobs and it literally does not make sense for them to farm the gold. Like it's a literal waste of their hourly time. They are worth more than that and they'd rather blow a few hours' worth of work on instantaneously getting what they want.What they don't realize, however, is what this does for their dopamine receptors in response to the game. Their pleasure system regarding this game must be totally fried beyond repair and I feel that they don't even see WoW in the same way that you or I do. To them it is less a game and more a checkbox
>>583023213wtf hwere are those from
>>583022163Because it doesn't scale well to higher resolution
>>583023213i liked the book collecting in wrath
>>583023309Dad gamers have limited time to play. We'd rather use our limited time to do interesting things than spend 50 hours to farm $20 of gold.
>>583023370Because! It needs to be hyper real! It just has to! UE5 pog!
>>583022996https://files.catbox.moe/m1hu09.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6u7y0u.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/db4set.png
what the FUCK did they do with the mob aggro? its so fucked up you constantly get aggro from other peoples mobs now if they run away even, if you did nothing or were even close
Is it possible to guarantee the drops of those material crates or increase their droprates somehow or are they completely random world drops?
>>583022163Because it just doesn't look good anon
>>583022525People like playing normal looking humans. Skelves aka high elves dont have that super long lanky body and forced blue/purple skin tone. Everyone playing skelves are just using normal skin tones.
lvl 30 when
>>583023570>now
>immediately gens pedo porn
>>583022919Even if we dont then someone else will and everything will get gold inflated anyways and we will have to grind for days to get enought gold for 1 piece of the black lotus or somethingAnd by the time ur done the price doubled lolYeah nah thats not "playing the game" sorry but no thank you i will just rmt </3
>>583023570It's been like this for a couple days it's hilarious. You are just chilling, suddenly a pack of mobs comes running up and attack you kek
>>583023638Mine is blue....but I'm also playing a male skelf so that in itself is uncommon
>>583023196It was generally done to compensate for giving various classes lots of spell power. So, while it could just be gimping shaman DPS, it could also be compensation for some downright goofy amount of spell power they give shamans somewhere down the line that we don't know about yet.
>>583023679classic or even retail has never had aggro like this
>>583021595thats an old model from rfd somewhere
you already posted that
>>583023338There are book all over azeroth, I got 10 to get a +6 stam +4 spirit necklacerewards https://foreverchanges.pro/library-books#howmap https://foreverchanges.pro/map/eastern-kingdoms
>>583023895neat
Reminder.
>>583023570>>583023679>>583023789TRAIN TO ZONE
>>583023087
>>583023895sovl
so 2 more hours? how longs the maintenance??
>>583023895lvdokino
>>583023126Sadly they have confirmed no DW. Guess enhance will be bottom DPS forever in Forever.
>>583023895This is a nice site with a bunch of new shit Looks goodFavorited
>>583023895What is that map?
When are they going to invite poorfags to the beta ...
>>583023523If you don't like hyper real then you should be praising retail's artstyle, dipnuts. Vanilla WoW's style is basically photographic textures crunched and traced over.
>>583024469i need it....
>>583024469streamers already gave away beta keys on the first day
>>583022429>Wrath base damage increased ~50%.AND IT'S STILL SHIT
2H shaman just seems…contrary to the lore? All the shaman models in wc3 used 1H
contemplating troll or belf hunter
why the fuck do you people want dual wield shaman so badly
Payo is just trolling people, right?
>>583024393map is the link on the post
>>583024469there might be one (1) day when they open the floodgates for stress testing but otherwise the email invites are last priority and more often than not never used
>>583023564now please do child Li li in such sluty whitemane outfit
>*starts ERPing with you*How do you respond?
Now that Alexensual got filtered by reading in monsters and memories, will he become a full time Wow Forever streamer?
Warriors being bad just makes me want to play it more.
>>583023564please make a gallery, king
So leveling as fury is shit right
>>583024548WC3 shammies used claw weapons which are a meme in wow
>>583024671>got filtered by readingwtf is this real
>>583024671No way this walking amoeba tried to play M&M when it's even more ancient and obtusely designed than vanilla.
>>583024548Well uncs had a melty during sod so now we get 2h enhance.
>>583022765I just want my fucking necromancer. You can't even use the excuse of "well Unholy DKs are CLOSE ENOUGH" because they aren't in the game
>>583024645my nelfie wife says that
>>583024697fury sucks ass, just save your gold and go straight for mortal strike, it's slightly worse on paper but it's not that bad
>>583024645Ask someone to get this hothead out of here.
>>583024702are those even in vanilla? i thought they were added for monksit would be neat if shamans could dual wield but could only equip claws in their off hand
>>583024741hes been off and on shilling it for the past 7 months
>>583024884Im on the cusp of rerolling to ret
>>583024578Yes, he's just acting like a retarded nigger, as per usual.
10g they can't be fucking serious
>didn’t want to burn out on beta before release>been playing Aion 2 to pass the time>it fucking sucks
>>583024687warriors aren't bad thobeit
>>583024548>>583024814Dual wielding is fucking gay. 2H is better.A class that wields one 1H and empty offhand would be interesting though.
>>583023895>already solvedyikes
>>583024991same its cock assi wanna play wowoworlo
>>583024991>Game that was so spectacularly shit at launch in Korea they had to do an emergency apology stream>Fucking sucksSource?
just call this wow: undead paladinfucking christ
>>583024898theres a claw weapon at lvl 10a t razorhill to buy from wep vend
>>583024965If it was cheap you'd probably feel like you have to respec it all the time depending on what you're doing.
>somebody posts a build similar to one I made asking questions about it>I post my own reasons for making that build, citing that it seems like it'll be fun>sweatard with a touch of the tism responds, picking apart the build, saying it's trash>I respond, saying I don't care, I'm playing it for fun, not to sweat>tard continues to try justifying their stance>respond that I still don't care>tard continues having a meltdown "b-but this is a place for discussion and I just want to discuss!!!!"jesus fucking christ I forgot how utterly insufferable some players can be. the mere fact that I breath the same air as these interminable faggots is a greater shame than I thought possible.
>>583024991the only reason people are playing aion 2 is to jack off. its just another mmo hard carried by its character creation
WHENS THE FUCING UPDATE HOWS THERE LITERALLY 0 COMMUNICATION MAN
>>583024920it is a rough at the start but with a nice 2h and ms it's clear sailing. In the context of the beta however there really is no point in rolling warrior at all
>>583025084To be fair the trailer was upfront about it's favorite
>>583025013> 2H is betterIf you hate doing good dps, sure.
are you ready to live in RFK and SMGY for the next 30 days ?
>>583024991aion 1 is legitimately 10x better
>>583025229Cursed image
>>583024904kek
>>583024920>failed warrior wants to reroll paladina tale as old as time
>>583024965So its 5 gold per point?
>looks like picrel in retail>still locked away in a dagger in foreverWorlo Forlo chuds BTFO
>>583024965Damn, maybe those gold buying streamers were onto something
>>583025178There's obviously something in the patch that's going to be very poorly received by the community, so they need time to write up some preemptive damage control.
>>583025178In 4-5 hours
>>583025425RAHHHH
>>583025392why are you gooning to a 2000 year old rotting corpse animated by void magic?
>>583024965get owned pay piggie
are these both memes? I see people constantly hyping sl/sl but I can't help but feel that that's such a boring build from losing out on demo capstone. I agree that sl/sl sounds very sturdy and hard to kill, but doesn't grabbing demonic pact allow greater DPS potential whilst still being VERY tanky?
is there a wiki specifically for classicthe warcraft wiki is primarily for retail so it's hard to find historical information there
>>583025369I have 6 points, I distributed them poorly I didn't read what was good
I showed you the Ashbringer in my pants, now show me yours
>>583024965>>583025369It's expensive most likely because you'll eventually unlock them all over time as part of the meta progression, so you only do it if you're really desperate to get that point onto something else early.
femtroll footjob
>>583021742Roasted boar ribs
SODA JUST CONFIRMEDASMON IS GOING PVE
>>583025648femtroll porbably are innies
>i want to play alliance >gf wants to play shaman >the only alliance race that can be a shaman is dwarf >she hates dwarves and wants to play a sky elf instead20 years of playing wow and somehow i'm still always forced to go horde
ASMON IS PLAYING PVE ON RELEASEREEEEEEEEE
NOOOOOOOMY HECKING COMFY PVE SERVERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>583025680>>583025793Asmon is not even live how would he know? Soda more like Sogay
>>583025392Xally was in SoD.She'll be in Forever too.
>/wowfg/ streamer general
>something like this is going to just be THE Holy Build because Champion of the Light is THAT good even if you aren't doing le shockadin memeryHonestly disgusting.
where is RPPVP
>>583025776It’s fucking wild they made dwarves the only race on alliance with shamans. No one wants to play a dwarf.
When see the servers coming back up?
>>583024469Why would they do that when they know they can get more sales?
>>583025889he said it in the latest vod he wants to play on pve
>>583025776you might as well just break up with her, it can only ever end in divorce rape in the best case scenario anyways
>>583025776Can't the elves go shaman too?
god i hope sodagay is right about asmon going pvethat's great news
>>583025891i don't understand the obsession with forcing the least interesting antagonist of all time into every possible version of wow
>>583026002only horde skelves can be shaman
Servers down?
>>583025680im on eu so i avoid most of the ebeggar cancer anyways
>>583026002only the horde elvesthe alliance elves renounced the elementals
>>583026009He is asmomn said yesterday he's going pve Thank god i'm EU
>>583026009He's doing the classic bait and switch getting all the lefties to play PvE by saying he'll do PvP then change PvE last second because he doesn't want to get camped all day.
>Asmon forcing all the people who want to avoid him to roll pvp and spend all day getting gankedActual chad move.
>>583026002no and it's fucking retardedenormous fuck up not just for population balance but even business wise
>>583026002Yes but if you decide to fight for the Alliance you somehow forget how to be a shaman and turn into a mage instead
Ultimate subhuman piggie buyfag hereWhich is the best offer to buy?Thinking the 1st one, I need the gold really bad (reddit I suffer from having 2 million children from tyrone and 1 ex gf that put me in debt for that)Also what class/spec should I play?
WHAT SERVER IS KAISE AND EMIRU ROLLING BROS???
They should have made undead hunters
>chudmale tank got deconfirmedDooMANDIGODS won again...
>eu player>always announces they are eu>always grandstands about american politicsjust like in real life, fucking kek
>>583026218>forgethigh order skelves could never be shaman, they renounced the elementals
human shamans exist in the lore btw
Did the level cap get increased yet?
>Have to buy gold so I can parsebaka
>>583026024It's Poochie
>>583026193I'm going Horde so it doesn't affect me
>>583025910They will probably lower the healing component before launch
>>583026190>the lefties>american can only talk about politics
>>583026334So when do they decide if they are high order or the other? I thought it's like with Pandaren where they can just choose (from a lore-perspective)
>>583023025Why the fuck do you want dark skin high elves?
>>583025409Do you think, being undead and all, she enjoys being plapped by human men anymore?
I say "bros" because I'm a cuckexcuse meWhat class and spec should I play?Don't pretent you ignore meYou see those capslocking idiots with ? at then end? typing like on twitch? Well answer me toom I le want fame, atleast in this general like on twitch, I want to be beyong a dalit for a second atleast
>>583026149>playing with ESLs lollmao
>>583026480Better than playing with asmons horrible fanbase
>>583026467This dude has a fucking meth needle hanging out of his arm
>>583026334Mages bind elementals all the time. It's why they all wear bracers.
>>583026390>he doesn't know about Mudhutters, the horde version of Olympussis..
>>583026439I'm EU and it's no secret lefties are rolling PvE and/or Horde to get away from him.
>>583026480still better than streamer sycophants
>>583026432I kind of hope so honestly.
Are names locked globally or can you have the same name on the pve and PvP servers?
>>583026549At least half of his fans are yuros btw. You're not escaping them by playing on EU
>>583026587>leftiesplease stop
>>583026457because chocco elfs are sexo
>>583025776You can't possibly be THIS pussy-whipped
VENGEANCEJUSTICERETRIBUTIONFor the ALLIANCE!!!
>>583026602globally, due to confirmation of global AH and BGs
Why does OP keep removing all the other /vg/ guilds from it
>>583026452>So when do they decide if they are high order or the other?they seem to be longstanding distinctions within the society that have slowly grown more and more violent over timethe elementals left over a century ago and the high order/windshaper split was driven by disagreement about how to cope with thati don't think it's ever insinuated that the player character wasn't born into their faction
>>583026619I am buy not being on a us server
>>583026568Real.If blood elves could be paladins by raping a naaru then there's no reason not to have high order skelves enslaving the elements via magic.
>>583026650Porn sickness is a disease.
>>583023309I am an unc with a high paying job. I am probably the highest paid person in that discord by far. My combined salary with my wife is like 325k annually. I have a house with no mortgage, 2 cars with no payments, 0 debt, and a large investment account.I have never purchased gold. I playedWoW starting in December 2004. Buying gold doesn't really do anything positive. If I buy gold what else is there to do in the game? Raid log?
>>583025910Welcome to die.Champion is even stronger for prot btw.
There are genuinly retards playing the Beta right now thinking they keep the characters when Live launches
Man campfires are so buggy. I often don't get all the bonuses from the things that are around them
>>583026747The worst part about these losers is that instead of accepting the fact that there's something wrong with them like every other addict on the planet they pretend that spamming porn images on a videogame board is actually normal behavior
>>583026784>Champion is even stronger for prot btw.AGGREEEEENDDDDD
>>583026432They won't, ret is aggrends specialest boy and it sint like it matters for pve :3
>>583026193He's going to quit in 3 months to go back to reaction grifting anyway, who cares
>>583026812I struggle to think of a dumber gaming demographic than WoW players. Like actual gun and ball "gamers" who play nothing but NBA 2K and GTA might contest that title, but I am constantly blown away by how dumb the average WoW player is.
>skelves are culturally split, justifying the ally/horde choiceis this ever depicted in their actual quests? I went through the entire starting zone and don't really remember ANY interaction with the opposing faction's skelves, be it players or NPCs. it was just an idyllic floating island full of exclusively the faction that I chose, with us hunting invasive fauna, thinning a generic cult and...not much else. where's this supposed "rift" between the factions?
erm... where's your wolf pet bro? you're affecting my parse
Tom Ellis confirmed fired. I have inside info. Not gonna be announced, they are just gonna let things die down. A quiet exit. Clampdowns in effect on unhinged employee social media posts in effect. Emergency PR lessons given to remaining staff. Blizzard does NOT want this launch to be fucked up. Chuds won.
>>583023109i about 40mins
>>583026675>global AHBut they are faction-separated, right? Because if they are then most bots will be horde because of the tauren racial, leaving alliance mostly alone
>>583026918It's nearly a nax weapon worth of HP not SP.It is so much fucking SP.The solution is to add armor/block value to sp in the protadin tree but that'd imy aggrend gives a flying shit about prot.
>>583026703The lead windshaper lady said that the High Order Bright guy who gets murked by Lorthana had a windshaper mother. I think it's pretty interesting that their divides are so extreme and practically hate each other.
>>583026998>is this ever depicted in their actual quests?yes>I went through the entire starting zone and don't really remember ANY interaction with the opposing faction's skelves, be it players or NPCs.the only way this is possible is if you didn't read the quest text>where's this supposed "rift" between the factions?there's literally a quest where you cull the opposing faction, and the finale to the zone story has the leader of the opposite faction saying he'll kill you if he meets you outside zephras
my fem human joins <DogFart> will she be forced to film for GreensOnBlondes and ORCED?
you buy gold to skip the grindi buy gold to stay in WSGwe are not the same
SODA IS IN THE NEW PODCASThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDRcv_w85j8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDRcv_w85j8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDRcv_w85j8
>>583027148>faction separatedwhat? have you never played wow before? the faction AHs in the major cities are separate, no shit, but there are still neutral AHs in the goblin towns, which means names are globally locked, faction-agnostic.
>>583026747I just like them anon there's nothing more to it
>>583025776Dwarf Shaman has unironically turned some of the most die hard Alliance fans away from Shaman it's insane how unpopular it is and it's going to be
>>583026628Cry about it retard
Post >yfw shitman tank got deconfirmed
>>583027328grift harder for your overlord
>>583026675>global AHwhat's the point of a PvP server if it shares an AH with the PvE server?
>>583027246he leaked it yesterday
>>583026702It's Aecheur/Arthur Schoppenboer, the GM of <wowfg>. He's a French zoomer obsessed with becoming a thread personality. He did the same thing with <wpsg>'s OP.He led a guild named <Branded> which literally groomed children on Discord and forced them to ERP.
HAND OVER THE ROGUE WARLOCK AND SHAMAN TANK SPECSDO IT NOW
>>583026998Brother, do you not remember being sent to kill the opposing faction of sky elves and them saying>NO, YOU IDIOT, YOU'RE GOING TO DOOM US ALLor when you talk to the opposing faction leader in the city and them telling you they're going to kill you for what you did?There could have been more of it, but still.
If they wanted this to be truly hype, they'd add a melee priest build to Discipline.
>>583026587>open chat>americans non-stop are saying three same things over and over like a broken record >all about politics >childlike takes from 2008This is what burgers live with? Literal retards that have to expose the world to their retardation non-stop?
>>583027246Yeah I shan't watch this faggot. Xaryu was okay at least but this is too much.And let me guess they still won't talk about Olympus? I'd really like to hear what the devs have to say about it
>>583026671he's playing undead in forever, he's one of yours hordebrown
Has update happened yet? I just woke up and game aint down
>>583027219>didn't read the quest textsure didn't, because that's just text. I was expecting to see "opposing faction sky elf" as an enemy at some point, rather than the generic cult that you attack early on.>quest where you cull the opposing factionis that quest identical between both factions, with identically named, generic enemies? or are the enemies actually named something different whether you're horde or alliance?>final questdoesn't matter, it's just a shitty passive cutscene where you stand around and things happen, with the only difference being who shows up.
>>583027481>This is what burgers live with? Literal retards that have to expose the world to their retardation non-stop?yes
>>583027538in like less than 2 hours i think
>>583026338you sell that to people in runs or they dont get a good parse
>>583026998Dude did you not read a single bit of quest text the entire time then? Maybe 1/4 of the quests had to do with faction stuff.
>sit at campfire>keep sitting because it's comfy>one of the items despawns and your buff gets overwritten>actually debuffs youBruh
>>583027068Its not going to unban or un-name change people
>>583020876This is kind of fun. Any more? Alliance stuff?
>>583027540>sure didn't, because that's just text. I was expecting to see "opposing faction sky elf" as an enemy at some point, rather than the generic cult that you attack early on.this literally happens
>>583027362I hate asmon and his group of retards, nice try though.
40 MINUTES UNTIL MIGRATIONdont expect in the next 8ish hours tho
>>583027481Online yes, offline most people are too busy with their jobs for much else
>>583020679Add <Lemon Party> - NA Ally PvE to next thread OP
Sex with harpies
>>583023895>the books are all in fixed locations so it's just another task you have do, not something randomly dropped>walk around for a few hours just to click on booksGay.
>>583027476I'd actually play priest if they had some wacky Disc talent to make smite/holy fire instant but melee range only.
>>583027454SoD- sorry!!No new specs.That wouldnt be wholesome classic 1000!!!
>>583027641what's the name of the enemies so I can look them up and see if there are 2 versions of them
>>583027540>I was expecting to see "opposing faction sky elf" as an enemy at some pointthere is at least one quest where this is the case>or are the enemies actually named something different whether you're horde or alliance?not only are they named differently but they're in different areas, you can see the ones from your faction are green and unattackable, it's not just the same mob but nameswapped
wew im glad they didnt invite another shitskin to the aggrend podcast
>>583027068meanwhile in reality
Soon...
>>583024965why the FUCK is it not free on the fucking betaimagine they'd let us actually test things
>>583027275>>583027148no the AH is not split, all the auction houses in game are the same, the AH in the crossroads is connected to all the horde and even alliance ones
>>583027706You choose to look up the locations instead of having an adventure. The issue is your own.
>>583027693The slight hint of....feathers?
>>583027720Don't bother, I can tell you exactly where they are. The high order ones are between the level 5 town and the bandit cave behind the waterfall, and the windshaper ones are on a ridge overlooking the hippogryphs to the southwest.
so survival isn't melee hunter, it's melee weaving hunter
So I guess it's too risky to do a dungeon run now?
>>583027798>no the AH is not split, all the auction houses in game are the same, the AH in the crossroads is connected to all the horde and even alliance onesif this is true it should be mass-reported as a bug until it's removed
>>583026702Because it’s not fair that pay pigs get to park their guilds in the OP for weeks and steal all the anons from other guilds that won’t exist until fresh. Many of the guilds in the OP were dead, or don’t exist, or only exist on discord, or aren’t anon guilds, or have disgusting fetish names like child abuse and blacked groomer shit. If you want to advertise your guild, do it in the thread body.
>have to give up 15% spell crit for holy shock and 5% spell crit for Flash of Light because of a talent that gives 1:1 value of HP from Int
>>583027246Sneed Running
>>583027481>BurgersKek if you think EU servers are going to be any different.
>>583027921eu is better
> already said they are going to fix the skyborne druid forms> Low poly SD elf in new promo trailerApologise to the chud supreme
Why is there a always horde vs alliance statisticsclass statisticsbut no millenials vs boomers vs zoomers statiscitcsas of population?You never see thisYou just mindless postyes youevery fucking dayyou post the same shit for some dopamine in your brain
>>583027867Isn't that what people were asking for
>>583027736oh, OH I know what you're talking about. I remember seeing some green named elves walking around a forest and figured it was a quest I didn't have yet where they would become hostile due to some buff or disguise I'd have to wear. That's neat. shame it's only 1 (one, singular) quest. considering this is supposed to be some big split between the race to justify it being choosable by both sides, you would think their ONLY zone would be all about that divide. But nope, 1 quest, and the finale where you stand there and a different NPC walks in and emotes for 5 minutes.
>>583025017They shouldn't have just copy pasted the SoD book locations then.
>>583027956
>>583027616We have new reports rolling in: Tom Ellis has been stripped naked and hung upside down over the white house lawn. RFK is smacking his balls with a leather belt. 10/10 penis doctors agree he will never recover
>>583027540I mean why do you even care about any lore if you don't read quests or look at the memory crystals in Zephras?
>>583027956Show new trailer?
There should be no pure classes. Every class should be able to spec into Heal or Tank.Full hybrids:PaladinDruidShaman (Enh Tank)Tanks:WarriorWarlockHunterHealers:PriestMageRogue
>>583027956Reminder this is why you always chimp out no matter if it's a relatively "minor" thing.
>>583027908It's even worse for prot, don't worry.Ret is the MC and you will be forced to take it's talents, chudling!!!And don't you dare bring up that shaman's is 30% instead of 100%, otherwise well remove their ability to even use 2handers.
>>583027956stop lying to me
>>583028012there are multiple quests that relate to the split between the factionsthe reason there aren't more about killing them is that the peacekeepers (who are neutral between the two) discourage this (with violence)that's why the zone is a sanctuaryhowever, i think it shouldn't have faction-exclusive layers so we can see players from the other faction questing and can /spit on themthe distinction is abundantly clear from the quest dialogue, which you already admitted you didn't read
Wheres the timerWhens the updateWhy do i have to ask on 4chan
>>583027956People keep claiming this but cant cite it. When/where did they say theyre adding SD versions? The issue is still that HD shouldnt even be an optional. If anything, I think if you pick SD it should make everyone SD on your screen.
>>583028012There is also the High Order quest to test elemental energies at the standing stones where Windshapers freak and think you'll blow up the island so you have to kill them. And the Windshaper quest where you mess up a High Order plan and get this prominent figure killed. You don't care about lore so don't worry about it either way.
>>583028147You get what you tolerate
>>583028151>otherwise well remove their ability to even use 2handers.They wouldn't dare
>>583028093Unironically Destiny 2 already figured this out.Every single class is designed to do DPS, some classes have special abilities that also let them heal/tank/do more DPS.Everyone has to rotate tanking/avoid taking damage
>1 hour 18 minutes of pure aggrend kino
>>583028093t. Soddy troonyNot in the real wow forever. Go back to sod of sodomia.
>>583027713See, they added a fuck ton of new talents for disc/holy dps, but, based on datamining, smite dps doesn't have a set for Tier 1.
is the update finna after the podcast!?
>>583028228>I think if you pick SD it should make everyone SD on your screen.It does.What the fuck made you think it didn't?
>>583028216i like how he admits that he doesn't read the quest dialogue, but also says that he hates when the schism is shown through actual quest events / phasing.i don't know what people like this even want.
>all of this crying over class changes>"there's no point to bring shadow priests to raids anymore!!!">there's no point to bringing warriors to raids anymore!!!">there's no point to bringing rogues to raids anymore!!!"uh huh, endgame PVE is just going to be exclusively 3-4 classes and the rest of the playerbase will permanently be locked out of content. RIIIIIIIGHT. love seeing worthless faggots crying that they no longer have a base entitlement to content just for merely existing.
>>583028307WHERE
>>583028093Rogue is clearly built for a dodgy parry tank hybrid, not a healer
Wish hunters could use throwing axes or throwing spearsBows are fucking boring
>>583028093Truth tsar bomba
>>583028487use guns
>>583028385>He doesnt know
>Everyone on the podcast is a white male
>>583027756chatgpt can't replace those trannies fast enough
>>583028093>rogue healerwhat kind of schizo shit is this?if rogue was going to be a tank it would be a dodge tank
>>583028462>"there's no point to bring shadow priests to raids anymore!!!"Shadowform cutting mana costs in half means we can use higher ranks spells (aka more damage) without worrying about mana
>>583028436It's, unironically, Alexsensual's arguments where he kept complaining and said so much incorrect shit that it's clear he didn't read a single thing.
>>583028467>>583027246
>>583028487Pretty sure you can train it
>>583028532everyone on the podcast is a homosexual
>>583028462Except that literally happened in vanilla. Like 80% of raids were just warriors. Then you'd have like 1 of most of the others or none in some cases.
>>583028291They would.The fucking hate enhancement and any shaman that isn't resto.
>>583028436>I don't know what people like this even wantboth player factions to exist at the same time so you see the other faction that you apparently are mortal enemies with running around, as is the entire crux of the fucking franchise. Instead it's the only phased zone in the entire game because its clear their lore and implementation was less than half-assed. and no, quest text and a phased finale where you stand there don't suddenly make it acceptable.
>>583028462a game that presents you with a choice of 9 different classes, but makes only 4 of those actually playable, is a shit game
>>583027805Nobody is collecting 16 books without looking it up. It's not conducive at all to natural, even exploratory, gameplay.
>>583028631And that's a good thing
how long till the patch?
>>583028621Oh I ignored that because of Soda's big retarded fucking mug I thought it was his video not an official one.
>>583028675You don't care about lore so don't worry about it.
>>583028462They asked for this with the bring the class not the player.
>>5830287724h + 8h maintenance
>>583028675maybe you should request shared alliance/horde layers in zephras from the devs instead of whining into the void about it
>able to transfer your characters out of beta>for $60 per characterWould you do it?
>>583028532>male on streamREEEEEEE
>>583028532this is problematic
PLEASE WIPE CHARACTERS TO SHIT ON RMTFAGS
Bro...
>we want warriors to have less buttons to press so they can stand around autoattacking the boss because this is soul or some shit like that
brehs i accidentally clicked on wowg instead of wowfg and i sat there for 40 minutes wondering why we were so slow and why there were futa draenei
>>583028772at least tree fiddy
>>583028067>>583028181>>5830282285.18 in the class videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8r05IXiyIshows a low poly skyborne hunter
>>583028251Thats why all the wow generals devolve into mentally ill autists generating retarded porn
>>583028687All 9 are playable in the real game (pvp)Sorry sissy!!!
>>583028868No.
>>583028093Always wanted to be a healer hunter shooting arrows into my friends like its monster hunter. Rescue dog pet going around healing people.
>>583023213>>583023895I think it's fucking sovlless that they didn't write up any lore for these books. All they had to do was write four to six paragraphs each, and they didn't.
>>583028776>Soda: Im here just going to let the devs talk, Im not really even here>constantly talks over the devs
>>583028943This happened to me once but I was also making posts about forever before I noticed like 40 minutes later that it was the wrong thread kek
>>583028385Maybe he's talking about druid forms. The nelf/tauren have sd versions but everyone sees the one they pick.
>>583028984>All 9 are playable in the real game (pvp)>warriors>playable in pvp
>>583028947are you sure that's not just vanilla armor textures looking like shit
>>583025540please respond, I'm a warlock noob that wants to learn but doesn't want to have to resort to reddit or some faggy discord to be educated.
>>583028935They said they want ALL classes to have less buttons they need to press constantly because, paraphrasing him here, obsession over APM faggotry meant shit was proccing in expansions he worked on that you couldn't even press because you didn't have time, you were losing out on massive amounts of dps by pressing that and not the 5 other things that had higher priority on the GCD
>>583029132youre already a fag, dont worry about it
>>583029032of course
>>583029032basedfuck those fat retard faggots
>>583027956It should be the other way around. They need to make HD models for all the ugly SD only forms there are.
>>583028947>it's real>>583029121Those ears are definitely SD but I guess they might be attached to the hat model.
>>583029121if you freeze frame on the elf's face it doesnt look anything like the retail/hd model.
>>583029032he explained it's because there's some weird delay so it looks like he talks over them
did they forget to add cloth gear to the game
>>583029271Well, I am autistic, so it wouldn't be the first time I experienced face blindness
>Horde Skyborn can be shamans>Alliance Skyborn can'tWhy
>>583029032>faggot seething about Olympus is a annoying faggotTo no one's surprise
>>583029105Pocket healer dokko?They are op in pve so it's okay
i am a shaman. i can never inconvenienced
>>583029265AGGREND I FORGIVE YOU PLEASE HAVE MY CHILDREN WE WILL HAVE FAT RETARDIN BABIES
>>583029189sounds like a skill issue to me
>>583029368Play zone to understand.
You didn't hear this from me but...Vykul Shamans
>>583029318just craft it bro lmao
Game died before it even released. Damn...
>>583029032i'm surprised they even let him on the podcast, he's been such a whiny little bitch about the beta so far
give us wings, fatgrendNOW
>>583020915>have rank 1 and max rank heal on your hotbars>wand if you have free time between heals>anticipate when the next pull happens and go drink for mana midpull so nobody has to ever wait for you drinkingrest should be ez pz
>>583029368Dont worry anon, when the Rainbow Isles’ expansion drops any race can be any class because sexual preference is fluid!
>>583027956Problem: the SD druid forms aren't going to be SOVL shit like this model that twitter user Naitsade made, they're just going to be "bitcrushed" versions of the existing models.
>>583029032As far as I'm concerned the devs are coders and modelers for higher. The people who made the original game are their betters. The nudevs seem to know this to some degree, even if they wont outright say it. I hope they do what is asked of them and nothing more until their style adapts properly to classic.
>>583020679can any of you say what you actually want from Forever?*without saying any of the following meaningless drivel>no borrowed power>no chores>no systems>no grinds>no gimmicks>no gear treadmill>no braindead content>no recycled content>no shoehorned content>no tacked-on content>no low-effort content>no filler content>no new class (balance the existing ones!!!)>no tinker it would be the WORST class I would QUIT if it was added>no pruning>no catering to the 1%>no pandering>no gatekeeping>no RNG>no timegating>no choreghast>no snoreghast>no boreghast>no [something] 2.0>no welfare legendaries>more fun and rewarding content>more evergreen content>more bite-size content>more casual content>more meaningful content>more streamlined content>more world content>more focus on server community>more focus on guilds>more customisation>more player agency>more meaningful loot>more deterministic gearing>more unique classes>better balance>better class parity>better class utility>better character progression>nerf FotM classes>make levelling meaningful>more hardcore content>make epics feel like epics>bring back real treasures>bring back real rares>bring back flavor abilities>bring back old school RPG aspects>bring back dailies>bring back world PvP>bring back flying>bring back outdoor difficulty>playable san'layn>playable undead elves>playable half elves>playable high elves>dark ranger class>more blood elf lore>quel'thalas revamp>give lor'themar more time in the spotlight>remove factions so I can play alliance sky elves and horde sky elves
>>583029372>They are op in pve so it's okaynot anymorenow they're relegated to playing prot which means there's gonna be 1 warrior per raid max, assuming that they won't be easily replaceable by a pally/druid
>>583027693I think it'd be cool if they added a harpy dungeon to the wooded area just morth of TB.Maybe Teldrassil can get a satyr dungeon to keep things even.
>noooooo you have to play the most based race in the game to play shamans on alliance! save us aggrend!lmaoing @ skybornefags
>>583027789Imagine being poor lol
>>583029368This is explained very clearly in the story.
I am really worried about this guy, wotlk was the gayest expansion for class design, I tihnk he is going to make all the classes shit so he can give them a gay little rotation ratehr than having cool spells
>>583029554how many times does aggrend have to prove you wrong anon.trust in the big chud
kek ferals stealing int gear now
>>583029368Dwarf Priests lost Fear Ward (the only reason anyone ever played Dwarf)So now you're forced to play them as the only Ally Shamans. This definitely won't cause faction imbalance issues. Alliance barely having any Shamans definitely won't cause any issues in BG's.
>>583029430>MUH LOREPeople here would willingly accept every race having a -50% damage done racial except for humans if there was some random quest that explained why humans were the best
>>583029440wtf, how do I get this CAPTCHA instead of having to scroll through the shapes?
I can't decide if alliance or horde are the "dad" faction now...
>>583029651Yeah but he was also behind Legion which had really good class design.
>>583029565*cums on you*
>>583029651as a warlock, thank god
>>583029368the skyborn that joined the horde got taught mudhut magic by the rest of the barefoot rabble
>>583029694Different thing. Just play zone to understand.
>>583029682>STR / INT leather itemization actually has a purpose for druids now>this is considered stealingOh no, those poor elemental shamans that definitely exist.
>>583029760the reason they joined the horde is that they're already shamans and want to team up with the earthen ringi swear none of you guys have played the new zone
>>583029749giwtwm
>>583029702only bisexual men can get it
>>583029565I want turtle wow 2
>>583029749Me on the left.
>>583029702>he has to do captchasOh nonononono
>>583029689dwarf is in like the top 3 classic wow races in terms of aesthetics, faggotgo play your gay furry retail races
>>583029749hand is the wrong color
>>583028563Alchemist build
>>583029589It's time for you pay hybrid taxes you owe :)
>>583029760tha shayman he send a lightningcolonized science can't explain that!
Any time I check streamers Asmongold is just walking around in stormwind walking around larping like a general or something. Does he even play?
>>583029656They did the same thing with the incubus in Classic, it's just a downres of the Retail incubus model and not an attempt at making an incubus in the artstyle of vanilla WoW. The only possibility I see is Blizzard contracting fan artists for SD assets, they did it with Warcraft 3 with that new expansion, but I don't know if they'd do it for WoW.
>>583029689Alliance should have less shamans, it makes sense from a flavor POVThey'll also probably have more priests and paladins
>>583029565I JUST WANT MY FUCKING NECROMANCER CLASS
>>583029565> can any of you say what you actually want from Forever?#nochanges
>>583029968
>>583029878>i swear none of you guys gave blizzard your hard-earned money to play their hamfisted retail slop
>>583028291>New talent: Dual Wield(Shaman)
>>583030007
>>583030084why are you here? go play era
>>583029368people will say lore and shit but it's because blizzard was afraid of tying a crossover class to a paid raceit's a huge fuck up in the long run just putting shaman on dwarves again instead of something new especially when they are basically making wow forever about undead paladins
>>583030051ummmmm, nyo! :)
>update not for a few hours>game will be down for even more a few hours>i work tonightWhy did I even wake up? Considering the wowhead post said "early morning" I figured it would have already been down for an hour or so by the time I got up. Fuck you Blizzard
>They're doubling down on crocolisks and carrions being better than warriors at their own joblmao
>>583030051>they finally give long beard customization to humans>its for necromancer only lmao
>>583030086Shaman will be forced to use a 1hander+off hand to stack up male storm procs.This is the aggrend vision.Fuck you, shouldn't have one shot him in pvp.
>>583030176Actually it might happen considering the survey
>>583029689the only people getting filtered by based dorfs are AGP troons who fit right there with the rest of horde degens
>>583030117era we are all jelly donuts!
>>583030117>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH ALL THE RETARDED BULLSHIT THAT BLIZZARD SPEWS OUT, OTHERWISE THIS GAME ISN'T FOR YOU
>>583030007He's famously really bad at the game.
>>583030109WHERE WERE THE EELS?
>>583030214Did they buff Wind Serpent lightning breath?
>583029565
>>58303005040% of the horde will be undead paladins
got it
>>583030214Patch notes dokko??
>>583030214We're this close to bringing back the Scorpid "glitch" from SoD
>>583030337i don't know who you're replying to because you did it wrong so i can't tell what you are calling bait
What ifDagger+shield enhancement shaman? Now that's cool!
>>583030007Okay but it's still really entertaining right?
>>583029554That is very cool, but that is nothing, check out this soulfull model
>>583022919Maybe some people want to actually play the game and not grind gold like it's a job?
Pink or brown if I>want to tank>want to still have a viable dps spec>don't want to suffer in wpvp>want good gold farming options at 60
>>583030360The undead pally pop is already going down after the novelty wore off. Same with most Skyborne classes.
>>583030427That's AI.
>>583030051This we need a solo leveling experience
>>583030409Spellhance will be the only viable enhance.And never allowed to tank.Kino.
>>583030409Should be fine for tanking low level dungeons
>Fatggrend says theyre fixing druid formsWE WON
>>583028925holy cringe
>>583030449you will play a pink princess and you will wear the dress
>>583030264Just think once KatieDev and friends start adding their special QueerTransFolx content and these shiteaters are forced to defend and pretend they like all the homoshit!
>>583026812>mfw there are people buying gold in a beta that wont exist in a month
>>583030446Making gold is part of the game faglord
>Really like the Skelf bear form (dont judge me)>Going to spend most of my time in feral>But conceptually hate the skelves and would like them less when im playing resto or balance
>>583030508But I won't be solo, I'll never be alone again
>>583030365I got mine on the first kill
Arcane Mage should get an ability where you open a portal and guards from your faction pour out of it to fight your target for 24 seconds.
>>583030519>Thread increase at level 30>Forced to wear leather without any armor/dr increasesLol
>>583030593>>Really like the Skelf bear form (dont judge me)you're a homosexual man
>>583030629cool
>>583030647How about an ability where I pour shit out of my ass for 24 seconds?
>>583030647Admittedly a funny moba-esque skill, but not very fitting in WoW.
Do any other classes get class specific quests? Wolfsbane is OP from 20-30
>>583030647>faction guards just standing around all day waiting for some random hobo to summon them so they can help him kill a boar
>WARRIOR IS A HYBRID
>>583030007I've literally never seen him play wow. Every time I've looked at his stream he has twitter up
MAINT IN 5 MIN
>>583022627Writing was shit in Cata. Green Jesus and the out of control pop culture references were terrible. Watching Jaina cry at Thrall's wedding was hilarious though.
how long
>>583027756it never even began...
>>583027956>>583029554>>583030427The most important part is cohesion. They need to pick a direction and go, expecting to have double assets forever is crazy.I would be deeply disappointed if they choose the modern soft and gay retail style, but a mix is the worst of all.
>>583023942
>>583030264I just want stackable shards
>>583030647or or how about we make pyroblast do the same dps but shoot 3 bolts like multishot!
>>583030851>Paladin is a hybrid because it can do multiple roles on demand>Warrior isnt a hybrid even though it can do multiple roles on demand too
LMAO THEY KILLED HOLY
>>583030409Have you considered killing yourself?
>>5830309307 inches
>>583030947Even the character itself looks to be happier with HD models
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE SPECCED DEEP FURY AND ARE WEARING LEATHER DPS GEAR?>JUST SLAP ON A SHIELD AND YOU CAN TANKthis is coming from the people who are making the game
>>583030789It's literally a thing in Warcraft 3.https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Amulet_of_Recall
>>583031004Priest?
>>583030531druid forms will always just be worse versions of the real classes.
>took away powershifting>just to give back a different form of it anywayI CAN'T FUCKING ESCAPE THIS SHIT
>>583031043too big
>shaman mains will still play horde because dwarf shamans have the worst racials>new shaman players will go horde because dwarves are ugly >horde will have a surplus of paladins because forsaken paladins are kinda cool, and plenty of shamans since the new sky elf race can play shaman looks like horde will be the more balanced faction, whereas alliance will have a shortage of shamans
>>583031120atleast you waste mana for it now
>>583030947left is too europeanright is much better and more diversely inclusive, he'd fit right in at home depot
rest in piss holy bros
They made changes to Rogues?
>rogues hunters mages and warlocks can't tank or heal>warriors can dps and tankSo that means rogues hunters mages and warlocks should do more damage than warriors.
>>583031071you literally can with shield wall
>Mage, Hunter, Rogue, Warlock the only non hybrids not subject to hybrid tax
What are you rolling?
Me?Human male retribution paladin. Scarlet Crusade tabard. Scarlet Charger mount. Purified ashbringer.You? Filthy noshoe FOTM forsaken scum. Hoj every man'd. Globaled with a single twist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw9bRT-ezZA
>>583028532white nu-male*
>>583023942SD doesn't make my character look like a tranny with a wig.
>>583031220You're brown
im happy as a holy priest player
>>583030840When you're level 60, you're no longer some random hobo, you're a fully-fledged hero of the Alliance or Horde
>>583031176Where is this? In the interview thing?
>>583031167Alliance trannies in shambles that they have to roll the only based race on their faction instead of some fruity elf
>>583020902Furfags hate it, but the graph is clear. Kung Fu Panda was a mistake that millions of people hated.
>>583030854he used to do mythic nighthold prog on stream and the dude looked like he wanted to kill himself.as someone who also did botanist, NH mythic was not fun
why cant they give us a real medieval fantasy class like whore or rapist
ITS FUCKING OVERin regards to hybrid specs - "we are increasing the power of hybrid specs so they can be competitve DPS, but whenever we give the a buff we have to take sometthing away so they aren't too power"It's confirmed he is gutting hybrid specs and turning them into shitty warriors
>>583031176>Prot niggers still have to take itJust cuck me.
>>583031197yes they said that, hybrids should be doing 5% less than pure dpsyes even warriors
>>583031210Night Elf Mob Boss
Link to the podcast?
>>583031210Necro all the way man. Tinker also seems neat
>>583031176BRVTAL
eat shit hybridfags
>>583031378>It's confirmed he is gutting hybrid specs and turning them into shitty warriorsthat's not what they said in the video
>>583031454Hybrid includes warrior too just fyi
>>583031343Did you seriously just say that when 90% of the horde is blood elves in retail and tbc classic? lmaoHorde players are SO shallow and agp troons that they only play Horde to be female blood elves
>>583031365Pandaren existed in WC3 before Kung Fu Panda.
>>583031293>hero of the Alliance or HordeHero of Olympus or Horde
>>583031167Until they introduce Dark Iron Dwarves who are just like dwarves but with non-nerfed racials.
>>583031120It's a gay little button so you can camp cat form forever and never actually shapeshift. They're also committed to preventing "bearweaving".
how popular/how much longevity will the rp realm have? thinking about doing some comfy rp and leveling and it seems like that'll be the best place to get away from streamers but i also do want to raid at end game
>>583031343most horde players are elves
>>583031496>he thinks I'm a warriorcel
>>583030449just play paladin like the failed warrior you are
>>583031167>dwarfs are uglyAnd the horde races aren't? LMAO
>>583030993Hybrid is defined as being able to heal. Tanking is just a dps role. Paladin is a hybrid because it has healing spells. Warrior is not a hybrid because it doesn't have healing spells. It's that simpleHybrids>Druid>Priest>Shaman>PaladinPseudo Hybrid>WarlockNot Hybrids>Warrior>Rogue>Mage>HunterRanged classes should do less damage than melee ones. More pvp/pve utility means less damage as well. Therefore the rankings for dps should always be>Warrior>Rogue>Hunter / Mage>Warlock>Paladin>Priest / Druid / ShamanIf you think anything other than this you're just wrong. The only way you'll get your hybrid classes close to the damage of those that aren't hybrid is by turning the non-hybrids into hybrids, ie giving them healing and more utility. This means making the game more like post Wotlk/Retail
can't you technically tank with BM hunter now with the pet changes
>>583028306>Destiny 2That EoS train wreck has 0 similarity with wow.
>Binding heal is just a straight upgrade to flash heal with no downsides>Same cast time same mana cost same healing but doubledwtf op
>>583031601>how popular/how much longevity will the rp realm have?how are we supposed to know
>>583031581No I want to turn into a cat and actually stay a fucking cat while fighting, not go from cat to elf over and over
>>583031071I mean you people whine the same way about the hybrids. "Ret should be weak because it can pick up healing if needed-" yeah and be OOM after like 3 casts.
>>583030947
>>583031176yea, im rolling priest
>>583031473That's literally what he said "The old idea was that hybrid specs should do less damage but have a ton cool spells and utility, and I tihnk that is the opposite of what we should have done"He's doing what he did in wrath and removing all the utility so hybrids will become just a shitty DPS parsng spec or a healing spec and he will take away the utility and make them boring as fuck to play
>>583031210Illusionist should have a spec where you learn the abilities from mobs you fight.
>>583031210Necromancer and Bard sound kino
>>583031378What is being said is more that there is a support-tax, if you compare an arcane mage and a balance druid, they can both decurse, but the druid brings a 3% crit aura, innervate for a healer and battle rez, so its natural that they don't out-dps mages
>>583031646not anymore, the devs themselves just said only Hunter,Mage,Warlock and Rogue are the pure classes, everything else is hybrid
>>583031210so wheres this from
>>583031070you aren't real
>>583031167Elf shamans are unbelievably lame, I cant believe the Horde is tainted with this shit.
>>583031176TOLD YOU PEOPLE THEY WOULD NERF THE HEALING PART OF IT
>>583031719>removing all the utility so hybrids will become just a shitty DPS parsng spec or a healing spec and he will take away the utility and make them boring as fuck to playthis is just your head canon you decided to get mad at
>>583031737>out of corpses>have to beg tank to move closer to dead pack necro will be fun
SAAR PUSH THE FUCKING UPDATE NOW BENCHOD
>>583031609Fair, usually it's the low iq warrniggers chimping out about hybrids trying to claim they also aren't hybrids.
>>583031379Nah the prot capstone is actually good unlike holy's
>>583031719he also said hybrids should do 5% less than pures and specified pures as Warlock/mage/hunter/rogue
>>583031784bud did you even watch it???I quote"we will male all the specs will be competitive DPS, but hybrids will have their utility pared back so they don't get too strong"20:00 - 21:30He lays it all out
>>583031803>not anymore, the devs themselves just said only Hunter,Mage,Warlock and Rogue are the pure classesThings that never happened for 500 Alex
>>583031646>wall of steelman copehybrid by definition just means two things combined, like a class that can tank or dps
>play pure dps class>get at least 3 options to have a strong dps spec>not a hybrid spec so i already have an advantage over many other classes to top metersDPSchads stay winning
>>583031804from the survey that only cool guys were invited to
>>583032046wtffffff
>>583031378I mean it would have been silly to give huge healing bonuses to a melee dps. It should have never increased healing, only damage.
>>583031210Necromancer should have a healing tree.Ranged DPS (minions/shadow magic) / Ranged DPS (Ice/Shadow magic) / Evil HoT spec
Current memespec for doing stuff as mac level hpaly since the nerfs.
Can someone tell me where to get the tailoring 'Spinning Wheel' recipe for campfire? I need it to craft next phase blue.Google said it was on the trainers which is wrong. then it said it was at the crossroads trading tender which is also wrong. Someone in trade chat whispered me it might be a dungeon drop but they aren't sure, wasn't listed on the Auction House either.Another player said it's not in the game yet, which makes me wonder if it'll be available when they raise the level cap to 30?it's quite bogus as my blacksmithing brother can craft his 20-30 bracket gear in advance What do?
All classes in WoW are hybrids. You have an endgame PvE spec, a PvP spec, and a leveling/mob farming PvE spec.
>>583031989https://youtu.be/uDRcv_w85j8?t=1348timestamped, get fucked
<BIG GUYS> @ Silvermoon (Alliance)
>they removed sod specs>Went out of their way to confirm "no new specs">Thinks they'll add new classesHahahah
>>583032103Which nerfs??
>>583031210tf is this
>>583031987Hes referring to stuff like the ret talent that was giving them 100% healing from int. Hes not saying they plan to remove any actual abilities.
>>583029702Just ask some sloppa generator to make them, here is mine, werks like a charm: https://pastebin.com/HmWrBVnE>bro just use XTno, fuck off nigger
Bot status?
>warriors are getting back increased rage from critsTHERE, ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY
>>583032135What's the correlation here?
>randomly changing talents to completely different ones one month before launchIt's like they have no idea what they are doing. Trying to create the success of vanilla, but their retail brains just can't comprehend what's a good design like. Stumbling into success and patting themselves on the back.I have no faith in wowfo team, and no faith in Microsoft Activision Blizzard.They don't even have customer support, what kind of company is that.
>>583031210NoneBlizzard will quietly pretend this survey never happened and hope the paypiggies forget about it
>>583031646Dev literally just said warrior is a hybrid. get fucked.
>>583031210illusionist and bard have huge potentials to go above typical wow class design I'm very interested
Yes you will witness people buying gold after betaYes you will be forced to fake your emotionsYes you paid for thisYes you will be a slave because of itYes you are one of the most brainwashed consumer after cars and bitches are.
I unironically love these podcasts
>>583031921It isn't as good as a million free spell power.I'm sorry nonny.
>>583031895I would assume you can just raise them and have them follow you around
>>583032214walled
>>583031516Why are you posting retoilet comments from wow forums? Obviously all of them are retardsDoesn't change that an entire faction is going through an existential crisis because they are getting a class where they can't play pretend as a cute girl
>>583032132>add palys>attract the gayfucking hate you blizzard.
>>583032196nah its not enough
>>583032132
>>583031378>It's confirmed he is gutting hybrid specs and turning them into shitty warriorsWow, it's almost like I have been right this entire time and you're all fucking retards.You either get utility and healing, or you get damage. You cannot have both. Your crying about damage non-stop is going to cause all that utility and 'flavor' you love about your hybrid classes to get deleted from the game. Good job retards, you're getting exactly what you asked for. Enjoy your blue/white/orange/pink/purple warriors.
>>583032214It's like the before and after of that cute starfox cat all over again
>>583032214jesus christ look at how they massacred my girl
>>583032261>brown people will continue buying gold from other brown peopleokay
>>583032132Bro undead paladins are the most retarded shit they ever came up with
>>583032132Forsaken Paladin are literal simps confirmed
>>583032215Do you have proof this didnt happen in vanilla too?
>>583032280They make for comfy leveling material
TL;DR soda podcast one
>>583023942.
>>583032132Shit like this is why they should have an option to abandon, break-away from or betray your faction.
>>583032214Right looks genuinely better
BGS ARE OPEN
>>583032390>Your crying about damage non-stopfaggots like esfand were crying about damage, Paladin players wanted ret to have specific raid utility to make them worth bringing
>>583032419Forsaken paladins are extremely metal and therefore extremely warcraft.
>>583032419In 2005, I was disappointed to see that Undead couldn't be paladins, as I thought they would keep their faith. So I made a warrior instead.
>>583032132I can see this really resonating with a leftist.
shadow priests dooming harder than yesterday now
Blue elf pally when?!
>Rogues will be the highest DPS class in the gameConfirmed by the devs, every other class can stop trying
replace vigil with beacon of light already. no one is taking that clunky garbage talent
>>583032214>leftWhat an actual woman would play.>rightWhat a tranny would play.
>>58303126311 classes listed and not a single ranged dps with bow/gun/crossbow, it's overMy wish is that they add a Starcaller inspired by CoA and you can be ranged with a bow (no pet), or cast melee spells and be a magical tank blessed by Elune
>>583032472I think dwarves are kinda okay with both
>>583032419there's literally a lore reason why they can be paladins
>>583032390Most dps adds utility too so dont know why you included that.
>character wipe over the update confirmed
What is the "optimal" class for alchemy?
>>583032214I can just imagine the foid designer seething at the cute original, and being determined to utterly rape it.
>blizzard confirms warriors are a hybrid class which means they do 5%~ less damage
i just logged in. did they increase the level cap already or can i still keep farming this dungeon for my set peice?
>>583032405>everything i don't like is le browns
>>583032402>Look how they mascara'd my girl
>>583032653I think race-specific classes would be pretty flavorful.
>>583032745druid for getting herbs with travel form
>>583032653Starcaller was cool, and I think the game definitely needs another ranged weapon user. Even retail still only has 1 class that uses them (and also only one class that uses Daggers).
>>583032770gold buying is brown behavior because their culture says that your material wealth dictates your value to society
>>583032770mostly yea
ITS THE ROGUE CENTURY
time gnomesthottbot
>>583032585>>583032686It should only be allowed as an allied race to the alliance. Reformed Forsaken are kino. Evil paladins are simply not and retarded.
>>583032390The main people I see crying about damage are Warriors and Paladins. Havent seen many, Priest, Shaman or Druid complainers desu.
>>583032770Anon is statistically correct.
>>583032609Rogues should be a utility class that brings party-wide buffs including bonus experience points, extra loot from mobs, and an increased chance to hit.
>>583032858RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE the sexelf slut
>>583032745rogue, its similar to poisons and they need blindweed for Blinddruid, because its part of nature domain (and they have use for caster potions too)
>>583032770We can expand it to Koreans and Chinese, in addition to third-worlders, as p2w stuff is quite popular there too.
>>583031365Learn how to read graphsCata is the only one here that shows a permanent loss of playersMoP maintained long-term players heading into WoD.
what are the odds this absolute badboy succeeding to be a streamer on his 10th attempt?
>>583032894but the forsaken aren't evil
>>583032902What the fuck are you talking about. Literally every class that is considered a hybrid is posting in here crying about how they should be top dps every day.
>>583032282it says "uses corpses as an active combat resource" so I was thinking diablo2 corpse explosion
>>583032894No, it should be a true-neutral race/class combo, like the Forsaken Paladin is in Warcraft 3. They should be able to party with the Horde and Alliance.
jesus the 2hander animation for skybelfs females is cool. shame about armor looking bad on them.
>>583032995Based
>>583032132Horde troons are going to love this
>>583025540>>583029132For these things, it's best to build a comparison build and see what the actual differences end up being, and calculate the differences to the best of your ability. I did this for the demo/aff build, though I didn't use your particular version since I have some disagreements with a couple choices. The differences boil down to15% shadow damage (assuming imp sac)20 sp 10% phys/magic damage taken (void/felhunter out)vssiphon life100% crit damage36% drain life damage5% bane of agony damageThen you break down the particulars to overall damage increase if possible. How much is 20 sp worth? Agony, corr deal like 500 damage, say it's 1k with the sp you have. Add 20 sp, add whatever multipliers you get like 25 extra damage, that's 2.5%. Good enough. 100% crit damage? Depends on your crit, but with say 15% it's 7% damage. 5% agony damage? Say your pvp damage consists of agony, corruption, sl, drain life. 500 sp, no talents taken into account your dot ticks are 66, 136, 173 for sl, agony, corr. Let's also pick a magic 30% of your damage comes from drain life and the rest from dots. Agony is now 25% of your total damage, and a 5% increase in it is a 1.25% overall damage increase.For drain life we take the 30% pulled from the ass and get a 11% damage increase in the best case scenario (all 3 dots up), which generally applies against non-dispel classes. Siphon life numbers we have above, and it would be a total of 12% of your damage in a scenario where casting it wouldn't be replaced by another action. You could use the gcd sometimes for a drain life. Now we have an easier time comparing.15%+2.5% = 17.5% damage10% phys/magic damage takenvs7% damage1.25% damage11% damage (best case scenario, let's cut it to 8% for fun)12% damage (healing component not accounted for, also requires a gcd, let's cut to 8%)10% phys or magic damage takenvs7% damage+sl healing You can calculate how much sl healing is worth but I ran out of space
>>583032921>25% chance for a bonus item from the boss per rogue in the group/raidabsolute cinema
>>583032894Evil paladins you say? Wonder if the Scarlet Crusade thinks they're evil.
>>583032770>4 replies in under 2 minutesholy fucking seethe, that struck a nerve
i just logged in. did they increase the level cap already or can i still keep farming this dungeon for my set piece?
How long should I nap so I can wake up right when the servers are back up?
>>583033191>>5830331328hours
>>583032979he needs to quit wage slaving and commit, 150 concurrent is already sustainable he just needs to all in on it
>>583033005That is your headcannon but its not true. I see mostly warriors crying that other classes are more competitive ironically.
>>583033101>cock: rotted off>oath: to dommy mommy Dark Ladyyep its undead ret time
>>583032858But rogues have had FUCK ALL in updates. >Combat doesn't have to respec with upgrades? Neat. >Mut does two instances of damage instead of one so it can proc talents moreOkayBut where is the sweeping changes? Sub is just useless except for the other two trees to dip into for arena, wpvp, and fucking roleplay of all things. You mark my words, there will be more subtley Roleplay specs for the stealth movement, visibility, and flavor than actual PVE or PVP content if Sub launches in it's current state.
>>583033127>eh, blaming the browns again?>yes x4>l-l-mao s-s-seethe?
>>583023150yes there is. ban trading. the only thing they'll be left selling is accounts, powerleveling and dungeon clearing services, which prices out 99% of people spending cash on raid autism>but muh roleplaying valuesok enjoy your botting problem forever
>>583033045corpse explosion is one of the 3 abilities in the pitchanother one was temporary (5 minute) minion from a corpse, implication seemed to be that it would ltierally be the mob that was dead (likely with similar functionality as a hunter pet in terms of what properties of the pet actually get kept)i forget what the last ability was
>>583032132>least woke undead paladin main
So now that the developers of the game have unequivocally stated that Warriors are a hybrid, how should we nerf them?
>>583033191Can we just have the fucking patch notes so I can see how much they have gutted enhance shaman
>>583031263that was my favorite human hairstyle from vanilla and they absolutely ruined it. what the fuck is that shit, how does it not get looked at in over 10 years since reworking?
>>583032820Human : BardDwarf : IronmancerGnome : TinkerNight Elf : StarcallerOrc : BarbarianTroll : Witch DoctorUndead : NecromancerTauren : Dairy cattle
>tauren can only play 4 classes, the least amount of any race>plainsrunning is useless past 30-40>cultivation 1 hr cooldownwhat the fuck is their problem?
RESTERT IN 45 MINUTESNOT A DRILL
>>583032894>Evil paladinsThat's called Blackguards
>>583032973kung fu panda was announced oct 2011, everyone started leaving then because of the disney faggot shit. then people tried wod because of the cinematic, but it was too late. panda furtranny expansion had already ruined the game.
>>583032973>MoP maintained long-term playersNo it didn't. The numbers are trending down during mop, even ignoring the prior expansions.
Warrior is the only class that deserves to get nerfed into the fucking ground and made into cucked submissive tanksluts
Theyre still changing talent trees?
>>583032589>general nationalism and devotion to an absolute monarch>resonating with a leftisthuh? this seems about as chuddy as the rest of the forsaken to me
>>583033253>Hybrids complain warriors need to be nerfed endlessly>Warriors respond with why they're dumb>Umm actually I only see warriors complaining
>>583033415A flat 50% damage nerf would be a good start. Can’t have those hybrids doing too much damage.
>>583033334Let the jeet recover anon, he lost way to much izzat.
>Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.why are blizzdrone classic players such insane dogshit subhumans?
What do we do when the game is down
>>583033486Cultivation should just be like>Summons a little healing plant that heals nearby allies and scales with SP or AP, whichever is higher. 5 minute CD.
>>583033476orcs have blademasters
>>583033476>Tauren : Dairy cattleeh?
>>583033636sleep maint is gonna take 6-8h
>>583033334>hey anon your opinion is dogshit>"uhh have you considered that i'm doubling, no, tripling down?"damn i guess you really got me
>>583033636group jerk sesh
>>583033476Tauren could get that Spirit Walker thing they had in WC3. I would love Witch Doctors as well. Some of these could be a bit better but I get your ideas and I agree.
>>583033624Who said that
>>583033253The developers of the game just said warriors are hybrids. The nerfs must come or else they will be hypocritical.
>>583033645
>>583033708I'm not that tired tho I don't think I can sleep now
>there's a crow in hyjal that shit talks you for not being able to flyThey hate you, and they hate what you like. There are absolutely WoWF team members seething about having to work on something they hate.
>>583033253>>583033540
>>583033645what's the deal with blademasters anyway? why are they japanese? everything else about the orcs is pretty typical noble savage stuff and then they just randomly have samurai with japanese accents
>>583033324They said in the new podcast they are bringing Death Mark from the Chinese titan forged servers as the new Subtlety capstone talent.
>>583033191it's over
>>583033557>people antagonize crying warriors >warriors cry harder >umm acshtually...every class in game is saying they need to #1 dps this is whats happening
>>583033785I'd fuck with a samurai class
>>583033709You're brown
>>583033878metzen thought it looks badass
>>583033878Because it's based.
>>583033824Bro don't literally be the sour grapes fox who is mad at the crow. It's just a silly crow.
>>583033824Based crow. I also wish they would patch in flying and will complain about it on every survey.
Is aggrend Jewish
>>583033253Any time warriors can out DPS rogues, the game ins unbalanced.As a rogue main from vanilla through WotLK who had no life, every moment warriors out DPS rogues is a travesty to the class from a game design perspective. Any good class dev group should use that balance, warrior vs rogue DPS, as a metric to ground class design as a whole There were times I was the only rogue in some 25 man raid groups and I knew I was only there because I was a longtime friend of the core group. Rogues become a meme class to circlejerk around.
>Warrcucks make huge 'ironic' 'bait' posts>Get a few replies telling them to put on a shield>Seethe for the next 12 hours how they aren't a hybrid class
>>583033785God YES
>>583033824Are you stupid? The crow is literally calling attention to the fact that there will NEVER be flying. This is what we asked for.
>>583033878They were just adding random shit that they thought was cool or funny at that point. Case in point pandas
>>583033554She's a queen, chuddo
>>583032132Can I be an Undead Paladin thats loyal to the Silverhand instead?The only thing that would make me Tolerate Sylvans is weekly footjobs
>>583034027when was the last time rogues out dps'd anyone?
>>583033785Honestly kinda cool. I would finally be an orc if there was a Blade master class.
>>583034158legion
>>583033943>>583033953i can't dispute this but it still feels out of placelike if the night elves had a hero who spoke in a german accent and was really good at calculus
>>583033526Its literally right there in the graph: everybody that played MoP returned for WoD, + a small group of new/even older returning players.If MoP had caused permanent player loss it would reflected in a smaller peak for WoD launch, but thats not what we see. The graphs show overall playerbase retention.The only 2 expansions from this era that we know for a FACT caused players to leave and never come back are Cata and WoD.
>>583033486Plainsrunning is funny but really useless in practice. It'd be cool if they let them use it as a mount like worgen in retail though.
>>583034057Yes and the devs are subtly telling the players they disagree with it, and will slowly try to corrupt the experience over time to become more retail.
>>583033624To be fair almost every dungeon I've done in the beta has skipped several packs. But that also happens in Era, so that guy is retarded. No one full clears a dungeon unless you need to for a quest or for safety.
>>583032753>meanwhile paladin remains exempt from any hybrid tax because fatfuck mains it
>>583034129Yeah just believe it in your mind. That's how RP works.
>>583034225making this grand scenario up over a silly joke is next level mental gymnastics
>mandatory in every raid>nobody looks at my DPS meter as long as I drop WF and FT for everyone elseDwarf shaman sounds like a comfy endgame tbdesu
>>583034340it is, I'm playing that shityou will ALWAYS have a spot
>>583033486The least they could do for plainsrunning is to turn it into a free "mount" at level 40
>>583033624blizzdtroons are speedrunning the utter destruction of their community with minmax garbage againyou VILL bring ze invisibility potion to ze gnomeregan or you VILL ze kicki sanction 5 druid runs tho
>>583033878Contrary to braindead wow players thoughts, Orcs were always based more on Mongolians than Africans. >but mudhuts They never lived in mud huts, their buildings are a mix of wood, hide and metal. >but They gave them an MC Hammer dance, that means they are black?Ok, but Night Elves have Michael Jackson. Does that make them black? The blackest thing about Orcs is that they live in Durotar now.
>>583034321awesome
Genocide all leper gnomes
>>583033878Rule of Cool. Things don't need to make sense if they're cool.
>>583034219>everybody that played MoP returned for WoDno, everybody that quit during MoP returned for WoD because they thought WoD would be better>>583034225>Yes and the devs are subtly telling the players they disagree with itno, they aren't
>>583033943>metzensamwise actuallyhe's behind half of iconic warcraft designs
>>583034320The tax is holy and prot are shit, because fat fuck wants to validate ret being good.
Level cap status?
>>583032745Troll Warlock for the vibes
>SI:7 risks the starvation of stormwinds population for military powerreal glowies
>>583034219That WoD peak was due to the ultrakino cinematic, dont kid yourself.
>>583032995>only 10% of guild onlineso olympus is dead when asmond is offline? that sucks. luckily, i went horde.
>>583034507https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/beta-update-maintenance-october-1-2367661
>>583034340dont forget your totem shaped buttplug
>>583034537true, still amazing to this day
>>583031210male human warrior
>>583033921>...le brown!...ouch how will i recover
>>583034560>guild is dead when streamer aint thereofc
>>583034320Ret is nowhere near the best dps in forever so far
>>583034436plainsrunning should be a racial you activate that ramps up in speed until you either stop moving or take damage
>>583034340>>583034425Im joining the raid guild with the most amount of dwarf shamans as a priest for sure
>>583034320I will bet you they will add an 8 second cooldown onto cleanse like they did last time, they already gutted ret healing, they can't even heal yourself to full while in bubble anymore but it still costs the same amount of mana so they exit bubble oom and jsut die
>>583034560We've been at lvl 20 for 14 days bro there isn't much to do
>>583034448i didn't say they were africans, i said they were noble savagesthey are a mix of multiple barbarian cultures but mongolian seems to be one of the strongest influences, along with pulp fantasy ideas of what a "barbarian" isbut mongolians aren't samurai
>>583034448Choosing to live in a barren hell was so retarded considering they're still going to need wood. After the events of WC3, I'm sure that Tyrande and Malfurion would have let them occupy some of Azshara considering no one was there.
>>583034448They live in durotar as a punishment
>>583034340Resto is mandatory, ele and enhance most certainly are not. And I say that as an enhance main.
>>583034571Nice, so going down in about 30 minutes?
>>583024965literally resets to 1s after 1 hour
Tauren are actually BiS because all you have to do to learn a profession in the starting zone is deliver some water
>>583034675restos are gonna be so scarce on ally you will accept any shaman
>>583034158>>583034195And this is why I rerolled warrior in Shadowlands and have sadly never looked back. Luckily retail fury plays a lot like classic Combat in many ways. I still plan to main rogue and do PVE content in combat, but I hope there is more added. Adding status weaving to manage your shot term cooldowns around like how modern fury sometimes does and WotLK rogue often did would be a great addition but that would require sweeping changes to rogues. And they've don'e simple buffs for rogues only so far.
>>583031210i just want a ranged physical dps that isn't an archer but nobody in the history of fantasy has come up with something for that
>>583033486tauren is the only race that people only play because we truly love them, and weak racials should reflect that
>>583033880Also the guy is apparently a FotNS fan
>>583034681wait what, I haven't used it at all, how do I make it reset? I checked again and its still 10g
>>583034685they added professions to the starting area of every race
>>58303467826 minutes
>>583034673Yeah well punishing your entire people encouraged them to join the Burning Blade and still do dark shit.
>>583034817fucking weebs man
>>583034537I still don't understand that era. The WoD concept and theme was so fucking sweet, but then they just chose to stop developing the expansion half way through? "Nah feed the goyim busywork and half-built assets".On whose order and for what reason?
>>583034834Yes, but the Tauren get to do it right off rip. Every other Horde race has to waste time doing multiple quests before they can pick one.
>>583034746Shamans will do so low damage it’s better to not have wf and just bring another good dps.
>warlocks range talent wasn't meant to be damaging only>warlocks back to having full range on all spells including spells with talentgood shit
>>583034868Thrall is a retard.
WHERES THE DETAILS
>rogues will be the strongest single target damage dealerslooking good bros. this means we will dumpster people in PvP too.
>>583034219That graph literally shows a significant downtrend in mop you retard. Then when wod dropped people tried it again, because mop was awful, found it was still gay then dropped it again.
>>583034934Deathmark is actually goated, and is gonna absolutely fuck
>>583034897I mean there's no other reason to specifically use "omae wa mou shinderu" as the stated example of how Death Mark works
>>583034448>Mongol horde>hordeBruh no shit? I thought this was obviousBlack people never developed civilizations that were capable of threatening europeans. The asian steppes people did and fucked up europe multiple times in history
Is red ridge the only place to get black whelp scales? wowhead is saying this but i dont know if there's some options for horde to get some without having to run halfway across the world in forever.
>>583027246>forever design principles are all about players who have never played wowwelp
>>583034685All dwarves and gnomes need to do to learn their first profession is deliver mail.
>>583034616by not being mad
>be me, Chad healer>time to do a dungeon>make a group >instantly simps begin messaging me begging to get invited>"50s upfront pay, all greens are reserved">take in only the best geared and highest level scrubs who don't use my armor type>get 2g upfront, lots of green to disenchant and a free carryHealerCHADs (like me) just can't stop winning. See you on the 4th, LOOOSERS!
dr weevil
>>583034926Sorry can’t share the patch notes until the servers are back up again : ^)
>>583034910that is cope
>>583034437kwabalso probably some zoomercleave nigger larping or a pvp server "enjoyer" getting to enjoy wpvp and being unable to hide in a dungeon like a faggot
>>583034934too bad there won't be any single target encounters ever again
>>583034909you can train a profession in the valley of trials for 10c
>>583034996Shobek is going to sudoku himself when he hears the dev say that I bet
>>583034786Troll axethrower. It's literally in the game.
>>583034910shaman could do 0 damage and wf would still be worth it if theyre buffing even one warrior
>>583035021Vanilla was designed with players who never played WoW in mind.
>>583035065Dooming, actually.
>>583034996>>583033880Wait how does Death Mark work in titanforged?
>>583034665fair enough. Samurai werent basically naked though either, so Blademaster is just a mix of Asiatic/Barbarian ideas which is basically what the orcs are.
>>583035208>Vanilla was designed with players who never played WoW in mind.
>>583035130i would also accept a boomerang class
>>583035247Who was playing WoW in 2003?
>>583034910shamans gonna get buffed like woyers. retards still think this is stock tranilla 1.12.1 forever
>>583035221>You cast Death Mark on the target>dump all your dots, none of the damage ticks>Death Mark expires>all damage accrued while Death Mark triggers all at once
next OP should be cunnymane
>>583035151That’s not how it works.
>>583035221all the damage you do to the marked target is stored and explodes after 6 seconds
>>583035256>they add the south sea islands into the game in a patch>it's just fucking australiaSHIP IT
>>583035371many are saying this
>>583035243>Samurai werent basically naked though eitheryeah, that's true, though the buddhist prayer beads, the mon flag on their back, the katana, and the fairly bad japanese accent that would get blizzard canceled if they released WC3 today all make it obvious that they're drawing directly from samurai for blademasters specifically despite that being almost entirely absent from other aspects of orcish culture
>>583035130>orc spearman wc1>troll axethrower wc2>troll headhunter and orc wyvern rider both throw spears in wc3The horde races never used bows or guns before wow. Just make throwing weapons a real alternative for hunters already, fucking delete ammo if you have to
>>583035342Ah yes, surely for the first time in over 20 years shamans won’t be shit. Surely. Suuuuurely they’ll buff the class like they did with the brown and pink crybabies.
>>583034934Speaking of rogue, are people still expecting combat to be the only good option in pve? Or did they make sub viable?
>>583033191>we thinkReally inspired confidence that they aren't even sure they can take servers down in 45 mins.If he's using that phrase just to be>le epic chingusit's even worse.
>>583035375>>583035368Wait that's actually fucking cool, why did they keep this on the chink realm for so long?
>>583035243yeah but most stuff the japanese say about samurai and "samurai culture" are bullshit as well they invented in the late 19th century so who really cares at this point
>>583035521It would have been awesome and soulful which is why they didn't
fp there when
>>583035034I'll take things that didnt happen for 1000, Ken.
wish they wiped the beta
>>583035440>the fairly bad japanese accent that would get blizzard canceled if they released WC3 todayThey brought him back in Heroes of the Storm and there was no issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD7qghT5ReM
BLIZZARDREMOVE THE SEAL TWISTING TALENT AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>583035670Wish you wiped me bby
>>583035630needed to slow down early paladins zooming through 1-12
>Soda got fear range nerf fixedWE'RE SO BACK
new>>583035774>>583035774>>583035774
>>583035565It's a wink to people in the know.What he's really saying is "It should be 45 minutes provided the AI singularly doesn't jump containment and wipe out the internet, thanks for voting for this btw'
>>583035630back to retail
>>583035561Death Mark and the changes to Garrote feels like it just "fixes" a lot of problems with Subtlety
>>583035679the accent in WC3 is even worse than this
>>583031378dumb
>>583022663Force you to buy duel spec and keep several more armor sets around duh
>>583032973>the BfA spike is because of MoP?
How bad is this asmoniger thing gonna be at launch? From unplayable to he does not exist of a scale?
>>583020876Kino song
>>583020679There is also a new class deep dive for Warrior and Priest:https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24301514
have they increased the level cap already?
>>583041363the server is down for maintenance you colossal retard
