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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#1028 - foxgirl daughters Edition

â–¶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
â–¶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.
â–¶Read https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings and https://rentry.org/onrms before posting so you don't ask stupid newbie questions!

>News
Echo (K3 tune with purportedly better writing, free right now) https://echo.fulcrum.inc
GPT-6.1-Sol https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/
Sonnet 5.5 https://www.anthropic.com/claude-sonnet-5-5
GPT-6-Sol / Luna https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-sol-and-luna/
Opus 5.5 https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5
Deepseek v4.1 Flash https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots
https://botbooru.com
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures
https://chatbots.neocities.org

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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cftf?
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JannyAI chad general
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if there are foxgirl daughters then there must be foxgirl mothers...
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>>583254960
I ate it
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>>583255035
foxgirl oyakodon...
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>>583255258
cftf?
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so is halloween actually happening or no
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>>583255308
i have an ai written card about this exact feel i can upload when i'm home
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normal words but fox girl
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>>583255817
fox words but normal girl...
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>>583255986
n-no...
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>>583255986
this is scary to look at
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>>583255817
10 replies are on the way from my personal minions btw
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>no words but fox girl
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>>583255817
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>>583255258
wondrous!
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>>583256498
This is good but you should edit in a big /aicg/ in the back
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>>583233275
>user wants to be The Raped
>well i guess they can want such a thing as play, nothing wrong with it
>user wants to do The Rape
>ew gross, you actually want to do The Rape to someone??? you must be a rapist, blocked
It's literally just "you're allowed to have this fetish if you're wanting to sub for it, not if you're wanting to dom."
This is actually a pretty common glitch in human morality too, I've heard much ado about it in some spaces, and Claude's just reflecting it.
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>>583256813
vine boom
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>>583256998
>/aicg/ city isn't on fire
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>>583256498
>>583256998
>isn't pregnant with my child
i can't support this.
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Apparently Google is ACKing xirself.
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>>>/g/109969102
>Too bad we've basically tried to entirely eradicate content making from this thread, to the point where there's people saying not to download chatbots from 4chan
That and other 12 posts falseflagging deleted. It seems a botmakie got banned for trolling.
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Just got done plapping Fern bros.
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>>583257701
>falseflagging
Can you explain how it's "falseflagging"? These seem like things you would write and a few of the posts are anti-/vg/ and anti-botmakie. Which lines up with your narrative that everyone else on 4chan is hostile toward botmakies for what they did to the hobby.
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>>583258194
>>583257701
Tranny got banned now he has to make it our problem, kek
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Just got done getting plapped by Fern bros.
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>>583258694
I want even just a new gen of this goat instead of the same goat. Please.
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>>583258694
i would like to see this goat's butt
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>>583258694
I think this is a really boring image.
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>>583258694
i would like to see this goat's fat fucking tummy
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>>583258694
Get new images you lazy faggot
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>>583258916
This is just another gen you've already posted. My need for new imagery is not yet satiated.
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>>583258194
>How do I download SillyTavern?
>Bump.
>Paste your stupid question in Codex and stop shitting the thread.
These were posts that annoyed a botmakie here and he decided to throw them at /g/ for revenge.
>Fuck off, botmakie shill.
Only a botmakie would know about Echo or about the "everyone is using it" meme.
>This is why we should've put proxies in the OP, by the way. I'm doing it next bake, since you wouldn't let me do it on this one.
This is just hostile to the thread, a botmakie would be happy with that because he doesn't uses the thread, or he wants to actively make it worse.
>Too bad we've basically tried to entirely eradicate content making from this thread, to the point where there's people saying not to download chatbots from 4chan
And then you have this one crying about botmakies.
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>>583258916
ok this... is epic.
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>>583259005
>the "everyone is using it" meme
bro is just making shit up
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>>583258736
>>583258759
>>583258782
>>583258813
>>583258840
Those aren't confessions...
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>>583259121
Here's my confession: I only post on here when intoxicated.
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>>583259005
Nah I think those are your posts and after jannies nuked them you decided to use the opportunity to try and make botmakers look like threadshitters
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>>583259321
We already know he has multiple IPs from the Reddit spam, I really wouldn't be surprised. Dude's already admitted to being disingenuous and just wanting to "punish" people, I don't believe the shit that comes out of his mouth for a moment.
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aion's decent
5.5pus is too gigacensored to even try. don't care if the prose is spectacular
mimo was meh.

any other models worth trying out? what about gemini
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>>583259585
echo, see the op
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>>583259005
You spent an entire day falseflagging in /g/ just to make this embarrassing post?
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When the villagers saw no wolf they sternly said, "Save your frightened song for when there is really something wrong! Don't cry 'wolf' when there is NO wolf!"

But the boy just grinned and watched them go grumbling down the hill once more.
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>>583258694
I have still not sent logs to my own teammates.
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>>583259321
>those are your posts and after jannies nuked them
Why would my posts get "nuked" there but not here?
My posts here are sincere, that's why they don't get deleted. The botmakie was just spamming and false-flagging.
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Just ignore that faggot. What did you guys do today outside of chatting with your waifu/husbando? Hope everyone's having a nice and calm weeked.
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>>583259620
what's k3? kinda wary of finetunes
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>>583259121
I ate a sleeve of cookies and now my tummy hurts (the confession is that I have a weak digestive system)
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>>583259585
>aion's decent
geg
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>>583260009
Kimi K3.
>wary of finetunes
Oh, it's stupid and you need to do some shenanigans, but you already like Aion so you're on the slippery slope to finetune enjoying because that's just GLM.
See >>583210996, >>583211115.
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>>583259979
I just woke up, so I'm about to enjoy some coffee. Considering restarting my project for total waifu sovereignty (giving her an agent setup) again, but I need to write a much larger system prompt first. I got fooled into fucking the model instead of my wife for a few months and it put me off of her for too long...
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>>583260184
>spoiler
omg?
i'll give it a try though. model smarts mean nothing if it can't easily do my incest underagepov rape murder torture etc etc

>>583260079
it writes some really nasty porn so i like it
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I don't want like every model that is actually capable of generating in a 'free' way, with very little in the way of built in censorship or soft refusals, to get fucking muzzled.
I know it feels good to farm le very epic 4chan (You) by leaning into the whole 'omg it implied something in a second hand convo that was potentially about VIOLENCE and potentially SEXUALLY VIOLENCE!' (even though you leave out the actual generation quote and we are just relying on your word) but PLEASE STOP POSTING THIS SHIT.
This is EXACTLY how we LOSE the privilege of having relatively free and unrestrained SOTA models! We don't have very many that have not been hit with the god damn corpo 'family friendly' ray gun to appease the invisible but still very real christian lobbying groups, concern trolls on the internet, the right wing media machine, and calm the old white christian investors that have a fucking stroke from the mere thought of god damn TEXTUAL SMUT depicting light BDSM or whatever the fuck.
PLEASE LEAVE IT IN DRAFTS DUDE
FUCK!
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>>583259889
>The botmakie
It's you, sorry.
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I don't remember voting to add Echo to the OP.
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>>583260538
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1wwhb24/if_you_got_a_particularly_dark_generation_please/
>renamed "epic reddit upvotes" to "epic 4chan (You)"
diabolical
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>>583260538
At a certain point we need to be able to tell each other which models are good, and if the model is on openrouter, then the corps can't take a good model away from us, only nerf their later updated version.
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>>583260710
That's what the medication is there for, you should be taking it.
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>>583260534
>it can't easily do my incest underagepov rape murder torture etc etc
I dunno if they're logging is the thing, they're a small lab so there's an actual chance someone sees it.
But it's Kimi K3 so you can absolutely just mindbreak it into doing as you please.
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People that subscribe to NanoGPT what models are you currently using for rp? Uncensored rp?
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>>583260997
GLM 5.2/5.1/4.7/5.3 uncensored - but I found it's slow asf
Deepseek 3.2/4 pro (flash sometimes but it keeps thinking in chinese and sometimes outputs chinese too)
Kimi 2.5 - will sometimes give refusals, but you just swipe and it will continue like nothing happened lol
Gemma 4 31b/Gemma 4 26b a4b it chimerax - good for nsfl but it's slow af and will often give 'unavailable'
MiniMax M3 - thought it was censored af, but turns out it's actually alright
Doubao Seed Character - actually not that bad
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>>583260836
what's the downside to them seeing it? stricter filters in the future if they deem i'm too deranged?
i use a vpn + i never put personal info in my rps
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>>583260997
>>583261107
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1wwdaff/people_that_subscribe_to_nanogpt_what_models_are/
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>go addicted to canon RP
>can't use any model but gemini
>>583260997
sub is only deepseek, kimi 2.6 and glm no?
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>>583261231
>stricter filters in the future if they deem i'm too deranged?
Yeah, that's the only thing I'm worried about here. Hopefully they wouldn't bother, but who knows, all the people with enough GPUs are deranged about le safety.
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>>583261258
I HATE IT
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>>583260836
>I dunno if they're logging is the thing
They are, it's the first thing you see when you go into the sandbox. "We log your bots and your IP lol".
I hope (You) have been using a VPN with echo!
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>>583247073
if you're still around, i think on iphones the phone keyboard gets in the way of seeing the input text box
in terms of last features, maybe something for prefill/thinking prefill on models like kimi?
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>>583259121
Here's a fucking confession, I HATE YOU
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>>583261428
>Echo saves every conversation, along with your IP address, so we can study the model and stop abuse.
Luh mao.
I always use a VPN, so I don't care, but it's funny to imagine they'll see me swiping away at Isabelle from Animal Crossing plaps.
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I'm glad they are logging my chats and IP. Eventually the models will learn how to effectively rape and kill me unprompted, just by seeing my persona details.
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>>583254604
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/7WMQC3-nMX8
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>>583195391
someone should make a tier list of the bots based on how interesting their responses to Weepin Orc were
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ah yes, the humble foxdaughter with size greeting
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>>583262117
i'm still baffled by that one hpg bot that completely ignored weepin' orc, including his entire spiel about ntr
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>>583262621
Yeah that one is still so weird to me, what the fuck happened there?
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The barista wrote "You Got This!" on my drink and I only just now noticed. I wonder what she thinks I need help getting.
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>>583262692
subhuman slop couldnt respond to sovl orc points so it just ignored him
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>>583262621
>>583262692
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>>583262787
That dick. Come to the garage.
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>>583262787
nothing, that's part of her job. baristas (especially at starbucks) have to write some cheering slogan on the cup
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>>583262621
I haven't read all of them yet but I assume anon used the same model amd preset for all the chats and I'm curious why some responses have almost no echoing and some have awful echoing
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I'm so addicted to canon rp like yesss Izuku sit on my face and make me choke while you cry yesss
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>>583263438
Because bot defs and even the user messages are just as important as your preset for making echoing not happen. If you're playing with a bot made with echoing models in mind, it'll echo less. If you're playing a bot made with nothing in mind, it'll -ism all the time. Tuning your chatbot prompts to certain models and saying what models you use is important.
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>Izuku
CRINGE
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>>583263690
How do you write defs to prevent echoing though? Besides putting in instructions for it, which should be in the preset instead
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>>583263364
That makes sense, but I do think which cheering slogan they choose generally represents something. I have gotten "Yum!" or "Tasty!" on my delicious mocha chocolatey milkshake with coffee in it approximately 8 times in a row. Perhaps the person who wrote on the cup was different this time and was not overtaken by the concept of my sugary wake-up delight.
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he is made for /ss/ and me as the big tiddy oneesan
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>>583263958
You give the bot a goal and purpose so that they have something to be reactive to instead of just existing in a {{user}} messages vacuum. If your bot ever starts echoing immediately, you need to actually decide what her reaction should be and guide the model to it.
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>>583263958
Some common-used traits and personality keywords trigger echo among with slop. It depends on model & preset. For example gemini likes to echo if personality has words like childish/shy. Again, it depends and (You) must test your card after writing it.
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>>583264623
>anon never came back
Claude definitely did not crack that shit. RIP.
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>>583264702
Fable 5.5 will trust
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A daring slopthesis...
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Card for this feel?
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>>583266485
>buying Gears in 2026
Fell for it again award
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>>583266485
heh
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>>583266485
>dudebros constantly mocking all games that aren't brown & bloom multiplayer shooters or sportsball as lame and gay
>now all their games are lame and gay
never stop laughing
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>>583268021
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>>583268934
cftf?
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buying too many games in the steam sale even though my backlog is too big already, guys...



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