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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9631 - Tell the Commanding Generals that Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #17 - October 2026

==OTHER==
>Booru
https://sthg.booru.org/
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>Support BoC!
https://bookwalker.jp/series/568134/list/

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>>583302240
>THAT SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG IS
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I love those recent Kittails artworks
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Socknic
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Miles!
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the cooler blaze
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cnc
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Eepy boys
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We can't have Rotor because he encroaches on Tails
But Tails encroaches on Sonic and Eggman so maybe we shouldn't have Tails
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>>583302463
Same
Kit has been getting more and more love these past few years
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Look at this ugly bitch
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Tasty
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>>583302754
Stfu

>>583302784
That's nice
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>>583302213
I never said there was a problem with how things are done, they work and have been working. However, if we are to entertain the what-if in the sense that the addition of Rotor/a similar character is introduced, we must consider what the give and take would realistically look like. That's all.

As I said, what sets Rotor apart is being more amicable and accessible. Eggman is an antagonist. Rouge is not considered on the same level and isn't intended to fill that kind of role anyway, and neither is Marine even if she is meant to occupy a similar space. Plus she's locked in another dimension.
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How do you feel knowing that the movies have growing influence?

Blade of Courage uses the movie characterization for Tails

Godzilla x Sonic uses the movie characterization for the main trio

Movie lightning is now the default animation for the boost even without the cyber energy explanation

Paramount characters will appear in side games to help it sell more
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>>583302754
Tails is necessary as the happy medium between nature and technology. But ig Sonic fans might be too autistic for nuance even that basic
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>>583216791
Late and not sure if you'll see this, but I found one more pic.
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>>583303051
We don't need Rotor now that we have Sage. Sage can have those conversations. Sage is amicable despite being opposition.
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>>583299639
>is the need for characters to contribute in multiple places when they really don't need to
Agree, and I will further this notion of a character HAVING to "contribute" anything is really mind numbing. Like I said to the other guy, contribute? Contribute what? What're we doing? Are we sure this is how you write stories (!)?

Is this how people consume stories? I think that's just pretty cynical, narrowing sight to behold. Regard all chars as just glorified plot moving objects and role masturbating indulgence, grabbing all these chars and fisting them into a ham mowing chopper so they will be actors for a Hanna-Barbera Super Friends show with each hero clutching in their special move like the audience is just for drooling children. I think that's just torturing yourself desu. Also you're replying to one of these trolls. Don't bother really.
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>>583303063
Awesome bait post anon me and your wife really loved reading it while i creampied her
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>>583302445
IT TOOK ME NINE YEAREALS
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>>583303051
Rotor gets rolemogged by Belle btw. Belle literally became Tails' mechanic helper
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I think Tails and Amy should go in the vault. Neither have done anything compelling since Sa2. They're only here because they're Amy and Tails. Whenever their fans explain it, they just appeal to how iconic they are. "Amy is supposed to chase Sonic, Tails is supposed to follow Sonic". I don't care. Can they be good characters? Everything they did after 2001 is bad. It's okay to let them be side characters or leave them out and focus on new characters.
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>>583303186
Oh wow brilliant takedown Rotorbro, you're right, those of us trying to make sure the cast doesn't get too bloated with worthless nobodies who add nothing are just children who wanna see fights! We couldn't possibly see the genius and passion that bringing in Rotor adds to the mythos!
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>>583303063
I think the movies characterization of Tails is fine and not that different from the games. And the only movie Tails influence I see in BoC is him looking up info on Yuta. It never happened in the games, but I don't think it's OOC, Tails is supposed to be good with tech and that's fitting
I also don't mind movie Kncukles or Shadow, though I haven't thought about them much. The only movie characterization I don't like is Sonic's
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Sonic is shonen. That means it obligatorily has the main character doing almost everything and being wanked by everyone about how cool he is. He has a rival who gets to do some cool stuff too. Besides that, there's a myriad of secondary characters who get one or two cool moments in the entire run then become useless jobbers. Then there's the weak and useless friends who love the MC and are his personal cheerleading squad. And all the women are weak and suck and never do anything.
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Guess who's back.
Back again.
Shitposting's back
Ragebait a fren
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>>583303435
It's obvious that was a reference to how Tails acts in the movies
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>>583303369
>cast doesn't get too bloated with worthless nobodies
2010 Youtuber parroting opinion tier, bet you think on Sonic shitty friends too
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>>583303491
I didn't say it wasn't
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>>583303487
YOU RUINED EVERYTHING AND RAPED MY DOG
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>>583303514
Nope, i dont see cast bloat as a numbers issue. Its a role issue. I love all of the game cast and even some idw characters. That doesnt mean i think sally has a place in sonic
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>>583303739
sonamy is ooc crackship btw. Naka's and Ohshima's words. had to clarify here as well btw
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>>583303434
Blushing is awesome
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>and even some idw characters.
Your opinion was discarded anyway because you're a Tailspedo but holy fuck dude, you don't have to sell us on it, we know, everything you said is total poop.
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>>583303435
Make out with me
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Why is Sonic in this AI image
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>>583302501
Stuffing my nose in Sonic's sweaty sole and taking a sniff!
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Frankly i'm just kind of fed up that you people seem to be more interested in asking how you can justify shoving alt continuity shit into the main canon rather than asking yourself how you can meaningfully use the shit we already have.

It's annoying man.
Databasefags I swear

>>583302754
>Tails encroaches on Sonic and Eggman
He doesn't! Some of his fags want him to, but that's not the same thing.
Tails is not the villain. He isn't as experienced or have the same kind of access to resources as Eggman. He isn't as fast or unwaveringly confident in himself.

The problem is you guys are disrespecting Tails narratively and only focusing on trying to turn him into a feats wank character.

Tails matters because of his storyline and our investment in it and what he represents as a character as a result.
You keep trying to chop him into pieces. It's like Amy all over again.
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>>583303739
>and even some idw characters
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>583303939
sega is a hip company and not a retro company. and AI is the future
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i've been call failspedo so much that i am sad, goobdye 5ever
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>>583303494
Gata y zorro
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>>583303148
Not really, there wouldn't be a lot of natural situations that would have Tails and Sage working together because they're supposed to be on opposing sides. Them making Sage so sympathetic was such a strange move.

>>583303186
They contribute by simply being a participant, but I think trying to cover every plot situation or caveat bloats the conversation farther than necessary.
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>>583303051
>However, if we are to entertain the what-if in the sense that the addition of Rotor/a similar character is introduced, we must consider what the give and take would realistically look like. That's all.
I see no value in entertaining it

Like i said, the best you can do is make him the guy Tails gets his scrap parts from at a scrapyard on Westside.
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Lol there is a beach ball in this AI picture
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What is the point of using the Archie OCs if none of their dynamics would stay in tact due to JP Sonic being radically different from Archie Sonic? You could just use new characters like IDW.
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>>583303926
H-huuhhh?

>>583303992
Important boy!
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>>583304217
So? beach balls deserve naps too, don't they?
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>>583304059
Nooo, you are loved Tailsbro
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>>583303063
>Blade of Courage uses the movie characterization for Tails
So the game characterization?
>Godzilla x Sonic uses the movie characterization for the main trio
Hate it
>Movie lightning is now the default animation for the boost even without the cyber energy explanation
That'll go away once the movies stop being current.
>Paramount characters will appear in side games to help it sell more
?
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Whoa Sonic is big now and massive
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>>583304312
I don't mean Tails. I mean you,behind the screen. I love you. I want to kiss you. Kiss me.
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>>583304059
Don't listen to them, Tailsposters are good for the general
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>Colors
boring yapping Ipad kid
>LW
boring yapping Ipad kid
>Forces
SONIC HELP ME
>Frontiers
"I'm just wildly inconsistent"
>Movies
Cucked out of a major role compared to Knuckles and Shadow
>BoC
Sonic's tech support
>IDW
Nothing in particular but he's often just a supporting character who does nothing important, last time he did anything cool was zapping Zavok
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>>583304294
Change your diapers, Tailsbab!
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>[Fails] has left the chat
Goood...now for the REST of you...
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>>583304402
The reason there's so many nickelodeon characters in Cross Worlds is because they are owned by Paramount
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>>583303186
This is a videogame series.
>contribute? Contribute what? What're we doing? Are we sure this is how you write stories (!)?
In general? Yeah actually. There is a reason most people only know or care about like 4 DC Heroes and the only Xmen people know are Wolverine and Storm.
And I guess Professor X and Magneto.
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First Barry of the thread
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Which is worse, generating Sonic AI images, or downloading somebody else's Sonic AI images? I'd assume the second has a lower environmental impact and is technically "Not using AI"
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>>583304448
Yes, I understood. Unfortunately, I don't know how to kiss people through the Internet
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Back before 2020 I realized that you could very easily tell which anons reasonably disliked Sally and which ones were Sonamyfags having a meltdown with a simple question.
"What would be wrong with Sally if you took away her crush on Sonic?" This almost instantly causes the Sonamyfag's mask to fall off because they will answer something similar to "Sally only exists to have a crush on Sonic." because to them, they do not see Sally as a character but as an existential threat.

Any reasonable person would usually answer with something else they have a problem with since usually non-sonamyfags that dislike Sally have an actual list of reasons that isn't just "shipped with Sonic."
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>>583304627
>This is a videogame series.
Are you a classicfag? Never played anything after 3&K?
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First Sally of the thread
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>>583304627
>In general? Yeah actually.
Outing yourself as really illiterate
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>>583304161
>I see no value in entertaining it
And that's fine, I'm not trying to convince you or anyone. I'm just having fun offering my thoughts and would-be approach. Just say this sooner next time.

>>583304294
Because you can build new ground by reworking their dynamics while still adhering to their core personality traits. Expecting everything to be 100% the same in such a scenario would be a fool's errand, but I don't think it'd be wholly without any unique value.
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>>583303352
>Neither have done anything compelling since Sa2
That's just not true. Both Tails and Amy even in their less major appearances tend to play vital structural roles as supporting characters. Tails ofc being smart and using his tech is always useful for both helping Sonic and exposition while Amy helps via being emotional support and helping others while Sonic is off handing bigger boy shit.

Your argument only makes sense of you pretend the only thing that matters is having thr highest powerlevel and beating up Sonic or kaijus for memefeats.
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Found Sonic merch at a store.
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>>583304761
Well that still applies today
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>>583304651
Cute cute
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>>583304761
How likely is it that the bestie who thought spamming gore and calling people trannies is still on here right now?
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>>583303352
they're the only characters that actually have a reason to show up
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>>583304761
I would answer nothing, because Sally had a crush on SatAm Sonic and Preboot Archie Sonic. They are not the same character as JP Sonic, and Sally isn't the same character across those either. You can watch most of Satam and ignore the romance. That isn't possible with Amy.
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>>583304950
This, I think Tails making the Wisp language translator is one of the coolest things he's done but people will tell me it doesn't count because it's not an action fight scene
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>>583300835
Actually, yes. Nine in Sonic Prime makes a ton of sense if you accept Tails Adventures as a canon prequel to Sonic 2. Miles is already basically proto-Nine in that game; with Sonic, he mellows out, and without Sonic, he snaps!
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Why does this ship triggers Sonamybesties so much?
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>>583305128
Nobody likes Wisps
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>>583303450
>And all the women are weak and suck and never do anything
?
This is always weird to me. Usually this isnt even true. Its just thr main character and rival mog everyone so hard she seems weaker by comparison.
Or she is TOO powerful and threatens the story structure too much so she gets taken out together plot
How are Tsunade or Sakura weak and useless? Bulma carries regularly despite not even fighting.
Kari in Digimon is treated like a messiah.
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>>583305105
Congratulations, you are more reasonable than the average /sthg/ Sonamyfag. Here's your reward, it's a cup of my piss.
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>>583305171
Shut up. You're the only bestie here.
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>>583305180
I do
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>>583305049
That reason was always pathetic. "They're Sonic's main supporting cast" is meaningless. They need to actually contribute something to the story. Tails and Amy haven't had a single good story in 25 years.
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>>583303739
Well said, but they won't accept this because they are immature.
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>>583305171
It's boring and played-out and ooc and green character is gross and smells.
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>>583303450
If that’s really what shonen is then Sonic shouldn’t be shonen
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>>583305048
You tolerate one spambot and now the whole thread is just spambots.
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>>583305048
You guys post this, but then lose it when somebody posts fan art of whisper
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>>583305180
I do
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>>583304761
Sally is a creator's pet designed by westerners to tie Sonic down and "develop" him. Her very existence is tied to the idea that Sonic needs to learn lessons and slow down so he can be rewarded with a trophy wife. She's everything wrong with American Sonic. You're just interested in posting bait to upset people.
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>>583304493
We need the Tornado 2 back...
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>>583305274
NO ONE has had a single good story in 25 years.
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>>583305150
You ever think of the hypothetical that Tails accidentally slept with Vanilla when him and Cream are older because he thought she was Cream and Vanilla didn't stop him because she hadn't had dick in a long time?
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>>583303352
No one besides Sonic has done anything impactful since 06. Then basically everyone got vaulted and it was shit. The problem is we need better writing
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>>583303135
I mean I'm not as interested in the collage as the other people that were posting. Was just noting something I remembered. If you really want to dig, you can easily find tons of shirts and other stuff like that pic you posted. That's one of the designs. Here's another. There are at least a dozen of them.
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>>583305171
Stop generating Sonic with toes, it's about as non-canon as your awful ship
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>>583304950
I really think Tails and Amy need to be cameo characters. This should have happened as early as 06. They just stand around barely doing anything or having their characters assassinated like Forces and Frontiers. They would be better off gone. They would be more popular if SA2 was their last big story. Right now they're like if Tikal stuck around for years and all they did was add character flaws and humor to her.
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>>583305478
See? Sonamyfags literally do not see Sally as a character. They only see her as a threat to their ship so they cannot conceptualize an alternative. You ask them what the character can/could be without the love interest and their brain malfunctions entirely.
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>>583305676
Or you could just write good stories like SA2 again
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>>583305747
Sally and Amy are gay.
Let's be serious here, only the males are manly and straight.
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>>583305590
Better writing wouldn't change the fact that Tails and Amy haven't contributed to a story in decades. Even the movies couldn't come up with something for Tails, he's only here because "He's Sonic's best friend". The movies would benefit from not having him because he just takes up time and budget that could be used on other things.
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>>583305676
If Sonic’s best friend and love interest are only cameos, then wtf is everyone else? You’re using bad writing as an excuse to stop trying on characters that should matter a lot
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>>583304627
>In general? Yeah actually.
>There is a reason most people only know or care about like [capeshit]
And the most illiterate /sthg/ post ever goes to...
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>>583305676
Shadow should have also stayed dead
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>>583305590
Tails and Amy already got assassinated in Heroes. Forget 06.
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>>583304602
Avatar is still owned by Nick?

>>583304768
Videogames cant just be written like a movie or TV show retard. The needs of the structure of the game require things be approached anf structured a certain way to accommodate it.

Why is the Master Emerald broke in SA2? Because Knuckles' gameplay was brought back from SA1.
Why does Rouge hassle Eggman for his emerald radar? Because she needs help to find emerald pieces in space unlike Knuckles.

This is a video game series not a comicbook or western cartoon.
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Okay I’m never posting Kat again
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>>583305819
> Better writing wouldn't change the fact that Tails and Amy haven't contributed to a story in decades.
Yes it would, because good writing would give them something meaningful to do
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>>583305781
>>583305924
>just fix the bad writing bro
Even if it was that simple, we have the issue of Sonic games where you're only supposed to play as Sonic and everyone else are useless cheerleaders - oops I mean Tails gave Sonic some tips through the radio that means he's actually not useless.
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>>583305924
Your brain thinks of the characters in roles. "Best Friend" and "Love interest" doesn't automatically mean they have meaning in the story. This is just a mandate. Tell an actual good story instead of just including characters because of they are entitled to it
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>>583306059
>Videogames cant just be written like a movie or TV show retard.
I agree with you but this is giving me flashbacks to when people said that IDW had to have constant continuity callbacks and endlessly ongoing storylines because it was a comic.
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>>583306092
Again, good writing would fix this. You’ve just been beaten down by so much bad writing that you’ve been Stockholm syndromed into thinking it should be the norm. Break free
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>>583306080
Sonic characters with this feel?
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>>583304921
>illiterate
>talking about something that isnt related to fucking reading.
Niggas just be saying shit.
This reminds me of when Blazecels insisted Blaze just being brought to Sonic's world wasnt a problem even though we said it was and wouldn't solve all her problems.
You people think of stories like fucking sims or something.
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>>583305747
Archie tards don't know about Sonic Channel stories
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>>583306198
No one has meaning in any story unless it’s written for them. No shit I want good stories, there just haven’t been any because the writers are incompetent. That’s not the characters’ fault
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/Sthg/: your mission is to send half the Modern characters to the Classic Realm of No Return. Who do you choose?
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>>583306265
Whisper
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>>583306297
Okay shitvertard, no need to yell, I will grab you some candy to shut you up
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>>583306265
This guys vs. Tile anon vs. that one guy who exclusively commissions naked Mina in a rainstorm
Who wins?
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>>583306243
Like what? Give an example of good writing in the framework the main character is the only playable one and the supporting cast does things
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>>583306373
sonamybesties don't know about yuji naka's opinion on sonic ships
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Look at how Amy and Tails dags say that they need to be in the story just because they're iconic and important. What makes them important? In literally every game after sa2 they are garbage and accomplish nothing. They don't tell you anything about Sonic that matters and at best they say something cute. It's like saying you need to have Lois Lane in every Super Man story or else it's bad. Just drop them when they aren't necessary. Frontiers is a mess too. IDW feels the need to turn Tails and Amy into traveling superheroes to make them work.
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Sonally
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>>583306429
Where's the deforestation?
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>>583306059
>Videogames cant just be written like a movie or TV show retard.
No one ever said that. You're projecting now.
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>>583306552
Why should I give a shit about the opinion of a crook?
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Are you ready to get replaced by Claude.AI , /sthg/?
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>>583306448
Wonderbread guy by a mile. He's known basically everywhere, continues to do it, and is popular enough people draw free fetish art for him as a joke.
I want you to reread that last line. This man has commissioned so much fetish art, and is so autistic, that people draw it for him for free now.
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>>583306595
You absolute buffoon. What have you done?
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>>583306595
kino
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>>583306574
>I'm jealous Sally and Surge aren't even half as relevant :(
Ok
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>>583306606
Probably just a meme drawing. Most the people who draw wonderbread guy art as a joke don't realize the deforestation is also part of his fetish.
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>>583306297
>>talking about something that isnt related to fucking reading.
>missing the point hard deliberately
something something leftists by purpose pretend themselves to be utterly confused on what are you saying
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>>583306765
Who is being replaced? Claude sucks Gemini is better even chatgpt is becoming better again.
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Spiteful westfags who want to dilute Amy further are raiding the thread
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>>583306469
Literally just give the side characters important things to do on the side that fit their characters. It’s really not hard. Forces was actually one of the best opportunities for this, but the writers are so inept that they completely botched it
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>>583306863
At least Surge has stories to tell. At least it would be interesting to see Sally interact with your "wind". Amy did everything she's going to do. You only want her around because you like looking at her.
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>>583306059
>Videogames cant just be written like a movie or TV show retard.
Average sonicbab never played any other game beyond blue rat like Ace Attorney, of course

And the sky is blue
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Is there any pictures of female Sonic's doing kinky fetish stuff
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>>583307038
Tails' wives
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>>583307093
Nigger just go to rule 34
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>>583305128
It's so annoying. For years people accused Amy of being useless in 06 despite the fact she sets Silver on his redemption path, saves Sonic AND rescues Elise, and sets Elise on her positive character arc. But none of that involves beating people up so it doesn't matter.

Supporting roles like this are important but people dismiss them too easily. Rouge gets the same shit, its annoying.

Tails decoded an entire alien fucking language using his goddamn gamepad but he didnt punch NegaWispArmor so it doesnt matter. So dumb.
>>583305676
>I really think Tails and Amy need to be cameo characters
Bro that's what they were in Unleashed onward. The hell you talking about.
>They just stand around barely doing anything or having their characters assassinated like Forces and Frontiers.
Define what "doing something" is. Go ahead.
List your games where they do something vs nothing.
>They would be more popular if SA2 was their last big story.
I dont see how? Part of their popularity is how evergreen they are since their characters naturally allow them take attendance without it being contrived unlike Knuckles or Shadow.
>Right now they're like if Tikal stuck around for years and all they did was add character flaws and humor to her.
This is bait.
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If your favorite shitty friends isn't making dozens of millions of dollars worth of merch it's down the vault
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>>583306863
>Relevance
Amy hasn't been in a good story in 20 years. Even Surge had Imposter Syndrome
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18 naked mobian boys in the showers at Sonic's Ram Jam.
Big hard throbbing cocks wanting to be sucked
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>>583305985
They were fine in Heroes, Unleashed is where the flanderizing began
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>>583307271
>List your games where they do something vs nothing.
SA1 and SA2
In literally every other game after they're forced in just because they're "important". At least Boom and Archie came up with things for them to do.
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>>583307271
Yeah 100% agree. I also like Amy's role in 2006 too
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>>583306652
>being obtuse
I'm saying that's what you are doing, stupid.
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>>583307401
Sonicstein...
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>>583307576
I DIDN'T MEAN ACTUAL BOYS FFS I WAS MAKING A JOKE BY PLAYING ON THE WORD COWBOYS FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>583307271
>It's so annoying. For years people accused Amy of being useless in 06
Amy was useless in 06. All she did was show up for that stupid romance joke and talk to Elise. These were not necessary for the story. She doesn't even make sense in 06. The way she rescues Elise was a plot hole.
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>>583307089
>he thinks Sony pseudo movieslop is good videogame writing.
How's Wolverine?
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>>583307616
I thought they were kinda neat despite what archie's editorial did to them
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Archiefags genuinely believe characterization doesn't matter
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>>583307656
That's it. (You) ae the Tailspedo who should've left...
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Tbh I would have honestly rathered them just vault Tails between Unleashed to Frontiers if it was an option. Basically every game made between them with the sole exception of Generations ends up either walking back his character entirely or generally just making him worse.
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>>583307882
This. Tails would only benefit if he wasn't in those games
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>>583306441
>thinks im shitverfag
Lmao
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>>583307853
I'm going to rape your liver through your belly button.
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>>583307271
You must be the only person in the universe who thinks Tails is cool in Colors because he translated the Wisps talking, like, actually cool. I will listen to you. Why do you think people don't appreciate supporting roles? Is it really fandom immaturity?

The way I see it there's a couple elements: the perception that supporting roles are for children and women (weak, cannot fight on their own in the roles of the real strong males so they're given consolation prizes, like being healers), the one that supporting roles exist to push characters into the sidelines to focus on other things, and the perception that supporting roles are boring on principle. The argument to the first cannot be changed on a whim, but for the last one, what I saw is: one should create scenarios where support abilities are critical to the group. For example, Tails did some important research in Forces to get them to fight in Eggman's moon base, which Sonic compliments him for that, but nobody cares, maybe because it doesn't make up for his embarrassing display in the game for the fans. His role in Colors is cool in your book, but perhaps the story is too low stakes for it to seem like a feat? Something like that.
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>>583307882
There's genuinely no reason Tails isn't playable since 70% of the time he's implied to be following Sonic offscreen. Would've been a better use of devtime than adding the Red Ring hunt.
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Why did we need Tails in Amy in literally any game except the ones where they actually change the plot? Tails doesn't do a single smart thing in 06.
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>>583306918
Wow Sonicfags really do live under a rock. Funny for a fandom that supposedly goes fast... maybe it meant they age fast out of the fandom and never mature up. kek.
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>>583306574
>What makes them important? In literally every game after sa2 they are garbage and accomplish nothing. They don't tell you anything about Sonic that matters and at best they say something cute.
All objectively false.
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Sonic fans would rather get rid of a character completely than simply ask them to be used better. This is because they don’t want to admit how utterly incompetent the writers are and thus realize that there is no hope unless new competent writers somehow grow on a tree
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>>583308172
>Why did we need Tails in Amy
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>>583308172
We should get more one shot characters like Chip so Sonic can talk to a useless sidekick partner and spare Tails the Ipad treatment
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>>583308195
I literally use the latest Claude models they are not very good outside of coding and web search.

Gemini is better at both.
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>>583308369
>What is lying at face value for 200, Jim?
Prove it , faggot.
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>yeah I want Tails to be vaulted but it's definitely not because I hate the character guys
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>>583308337
>Just do it better
Amy would be better off if she wasn't in 06, Riders, Lost World and Frontier
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>>583300968
I'm not gonna entertain you anyway like a jester if you have to ask allat. If you have to, odds are you'll never be fine (this is stupid standard to take by the by) with Rotor or any other. I will just be buckling essays after essays like a dumbass and you'll just at best spout "okay fine but he will show only his head and hands and talk for like two panels deal x)". I'm on /sthg/, I'm not that dumbo lol.

Like what took place here >>583301463, this guy was "satisfied" with a mutilated cardboard self of a char (no offense of course to the one that proposed it, I know he meant it in good faith independent of me disagreeing with) and he won't mind with him getting at most just two panels. This is what I mean. I shudder to think other fans of tertiary characters are just complacent with this sophism.

To get you the idea, I earned the "Rotorfag" badge just because it is THAT shocking? That one can like a tertiary (Rotor is protagonist to its debut mediums but anyway) character. So what?

>>583304083
Pretty much, yeah. Being pointlessly efficient over just making a effective story, that's not good. It's about creativity and linking, getting enjoyment for our humanistic souls, not business corporation and getting objective and flat rate results.
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>>583308518
Tails fans like you are so battered after years of Tails being bullied by the fandom you're gone full stockholm syndrome into accepting Tails being a little bitch cheerleader is actually a good thing
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>>583308361
The problem is they still want to give Tails the iPad treatment even when there’s not a Chip. Because they’re not creative enough to give him any action scenes if he’s not playable
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>>583308518
I want Tails to show up and matter, instead he was reduced to a mascot. He only shows up because "he's supposed to". This is the worst reason to include a character.
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>>583308650
You can stop pretending to give a shit about Tails
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>>583308518
If Tails wasn't in Unleashed... Lost World... and Forces his character would be better
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Why are we talking about Tails and Amy being vaulted when Silver and Blaze are still kicking?
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>>583308704
Tails matters and is important. Most characters haven't done jack shit in a long time either. By this logic we should just delete 98% of the cast
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>>583308853
At least there's things to do with Blaze. Blaze has so much potential as a character, but like many other characters she gets held back because she isn't part of The Mystery Gang
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>>583308776
Hey it's your favorite character being humiliated over and over, not mine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o_4MdPGFZg
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>>583308939
>By this logic we should just delete 98% of the cast
Now you're getting it.
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>>583307469
>At least Boom and Archie came up with things for them to do.
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>>583308847
Sonic himself was poorly portrayed in those games
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>>583308974
No she doesn’t. She’s a gimmick character that should realistically only be used for Multiverseshit stories. Same for Silver and timetravelshit. You can’t do those consistently, if at all
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>>583308939
Most of the cast doesn't need to be here. Silver has the same problem. His story is over but they keep coming up with excuses to include. Him. Tails and Amy also go against the idea that Sonic randomly goes on adventures everywhere, because they're always with him.
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>>583308424
https://poe.com/s/Y79PvxNgeCbuu4SmM9aZ
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>WAAAAAAAH WHY CANT MY CHARACTER BE AS IMPORTANT AND AMAZING AND AWESOME AND LOVED AS TAILS AND AMY ARE :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
lol cope
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>>583309050
This. Shittyfriendsfags were accidentally correct because they would've spared them from the horrors
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>>583309039
There you finally revealed yourself. Now I can ignore you

>>583309097
Maybe instead of deleting the characters we could actually improve them, I know crazy

>Tails and Amy also go against the idea that Sonic randomly goes on adventures everywhere, because they're always with him
Literally how
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Forcing the same 2 characters to always be the most important IS bad writing
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>>583307657
You have 0 Media literacy.
Amy talking to Silver is what sets him on his arc. If Amy doesnt stop Silver, Sonic is just dead. Amy saving Elise isnt a plothole and her talking with Elise wasn't a "joke" it was character development. It's what gets Elise to be more proactive and bold as a character and more open eith her feelings.
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>>583308518
As a Tailsfag, I merely recognized that the writers and people making the big decisions in this franchise either do not care about Tails that much if at all and merely see him as basically Sonic's eternal cocksleeve meant to make him look good by making himself look cowardly and weak and that's if the story attempts to address Tails at all. In the past decade, most of the time he's just in the background kind of doing nothing but standing there waiting for Sonic to address him which is honestly just as bad because while those scenes don't make him look pathetic, they make him feel like his entire existence is literally JUST Sonic and that he has absolutely nothing else going for him.

It's an abuse of the character. Same with Knuckles and Amy and Shadow during the meta era. I don't like watching or seeing these characters abused, especially my favorite ones. Honest to god if they just removed Tails from the story of every game between Unleashed to Frontiers, with the exception of Generations almost nothing in the story changes (you can use Eggman as plot extrapolation) and Tails doesn't get abused and mischaracterized.

I like Tails. I want Tails to be cool and awesome and beyond that I REALLY want to be able to play as Tails again but Sonic Team has no interest in doing any of that so whenever they use him, I just get sad because they never treat him right. Just because I don't want to see Tails be mishandled doesn't mean I don't like him or want him vaulted. I'd rather that not be the case but if I had to make the choice I would choose just to vault him and be a background character if only so that I wouldn't have to see him be transformed into an Ipad babby who has somehow regressed back to pre-SA levels of cowardice.
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>>583309285
But enough about Sonic and Eggman
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>Create story concept
>Okay now we have to add something for Tails and Amy to do
This is the reason their characters fell apart over the years. It wasn't Ian Flynn or west. It was because they're forced into every story.
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>>583309136
Juding by your posts and that pic it makes sense since you see Tails as a sissy and not a real character worth anyone's respect
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>>583309409
They are Sonic's sidekicks????

What is the trouble there?
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>>583309048
Rain is nice and comfy
I don't have rain pics right now unfortunately

>>583309284
It's pointless, they just want the characters to fight and do nothing else

>>583309437
Nobody cares about your respect buddy
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>>583309345
What is the use of crying over spilled milk like this. I could apply this logic to the series itself, that after so many missteps it doesn't make sense to continue being a fan because SEGA has shown time and time again to not properly care about this franchise

Tails is important, he is popular, and he got nice things this decade. I recognize there are problems but wanting the character to be gone is stupid. Even in the classic examples like Lost World and Unleashed he does more to help than all other characters and still has good elements
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You people who want Tails and Amy gone are basically asking for the equivalent of the Red Shirt Shaggy era.
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>>583309513
>We don't have a role for them in this story but we need to include them because they're sidekicks
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>tailsfags are actual abused housewives who love how Sega ruined their character
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>>583309671
>>583309632
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>>583309632
This was literally the smartest thing they ever did
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The Miles Electric is cool
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Tails was created to be important. He was created to appear in the vast majority of Sonic stories. If you hate that tough luck.

>>583309672
You guys are unable to think with any nuance
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You can just blame the writers for incompetence
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Tails posting on /sthg/
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>>583309804
I mean I love scrappy Doo and this era but clearly I am in the minority.
I mean someone here said Belle was a better character.
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>>583309941
Remember when we used to blame Pontaff as the boogieman who ruined the characters when all they did was follow orders from Sega better than Flynn ever did
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>>583309603
>I could apply this logic to the series itself, that after so many missteps it doesn't make sense to continue being a fan because SEGA has shown time and time again to not properly care about this franchise
I have met very few Sonic fans above the age of 18 that do not have severe gripes with how badly the IP is mistreated. There's a reason why "I fucking hate Sonic" is an long, ongoing joke in this fanbase. You can't be a Sonic fan without being able to deal with failure, embarrassment and disappointment.

>I recognize there are problems but wanting the character to be gone is stupid.
I didn't say I want him gone. I want him to just not be abused and mishandled. In a way I almost wish he was in the same status as Knuckles or Blaze where they acknowledge they exist but don't really do anything outside of small fanservice. That would be better than the Ipad baby shit.

>Even in the classic examples like Lost World and Unleashed he does more to help than all other characters
That's because he's literally the only character besides Eggman or Sonic that's even relevant.
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I'm tired of this
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>>583309632
Shaggy Rojo solos the entire Sonicverse btw. Shaggy Verde dogwalks even Super Sonic 2 as well.
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>>583310113
>Super Sonic 2
This isn’t dragon ball Z
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>>583309963
I think we all need to touch some grass
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>>583310156
Shut the fuck up tourist.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaXesah4iAk
Classics
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>>583310156
>And this...this is what is known as Super Sonic that has ascended past a Super Sonic!
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>>583310006
>I have met very few Sonic fans above the age of 18 that do not have severe gripes with how badly the IP is mistreated. There's a reason why "I fucking hate Sonic" is an long, ongoing joke in this fanbase. You can't be a Sonic fan without being able to deal with failure, embarrassment and disappointment.
A lot of it is just nostalgiafagging, which I'm glad to have grown out of. Unfortunately most fans fail to do that because the fanbase has repeatedly reinforced that behavior as "positive" for the series. But in reality it hasn't helped at all, all it does is teach people how to hate the series and validates it. When a new Sonic thingie is announced most of the time people just look for excuses to hate it immediately, instead of looking forward to it and trying to enjoy it. I used to have games I'd refuse to touch or give any reasonable treatment to, and I'm glad I broke out of that stupid mentality and tried them. I liked some, disliked others, and realized "my" past opinions weren't as thoughtful or nuanced as I thought. I just saw everything in a black and white way, "back then things were good and now they're bad, I need to convince everyone the series should ignore everything past 2001 and NOT past anything someone else might like if it released later". It's stupid and obnoxious. Just enjoy the things you like and keep an open mind to new things, like you did when you first played the things you enjoyed in the first place. I still want another Adventure style game but I'm not going to be mad at anything else existing. If I don't like something I can just look past it and enjoy something else
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>>583310413
Fuck off retarded spic, go get mounted on a spike by your local cartel
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>>583308136
>Why do you think people don't appreciate supporting roles? Is it really fandom immaturity?
I think it's just thr kind of audience Sonic got saddled with. It's a lot of battleshonen and marvelcape brained people who only value punching villains and being able to say their pet character could beat up other people's.

That plus its a videogame series, and a lot of gamers are bias towards hedonistic empowerment fantasies, so people are just more bias against things that aren't strictly in service to helping them beat up enemies and stuff.

Its better these days but its still pretty comon.
https://youtu.be/XOC3vixnj_0?t=1201
A lot of people are just Egoraptors but dont wanna admit it.

In some sense there is merit to it though. They are essentially being asked to care about and apreciate characters they may or may not already care about.

>the perception that supporting roles are for children and women (weak, cannot fight on their own in the roles of the real strong males so they're given consolation prizes, like being healers), the one that supporting roles exist to push characters into the sidelines to focus on other things, and the perception that supporting roles are boring on principle.

Yeah this stuff too

>For example, Tails did some important research in Forces to get them to fight in Eggman's moon base, which Sonic compliments him for that, but nobody cares, maybe because it doesn't make up for his embarrassing display in the game for the fans.

I don't even think it's that. I think its a combination of the game not selling its stakes in general. Forces as a game feels informed rather than experienced.
>His role in Colors is cool in your book, but perhaps the story is too low stakes for it to seem like a feat? Something like that.
It's because it doesn't matter to the player. It's fun and cool if you like Tails, which i do, and is seemingly uncritical to saving the day. If you don't care about Tails it's easy to just dismiss it as irrelevant
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To make this as basic as I can, I would love to have Tails in literally everything and even get his own sub-series but until this IP can get it's fucking shit together and get some writers that actually know what the fuck they're doing, I have almost zero hope Tails is actually going to be treated nice and well and so I will just have to fucking cope and headcanon everything.
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<3
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>>583310523
Wow he changed the color of his eyes, big fucking deal, you can change YOUR eye color by touching your face after a night with your boyfriend, but that doesn’t mean its a special form
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>>583308536
This is just objectively wrong. 06 Amy is one of her best appearances. I dont get how you can praise SA2 Amy but say 06 Amy is useless. She is more relevant in 06 than Knuckles is.
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>>583310685
Boy boy boy!
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>>583310567
The tourist seethes as he impotently lashes out with insults.
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>>583310760
Maybe we scared Kitbro away
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Douge
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I come here expecting something and instead all I get is trash
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If your character can't function in a supporting role, it actually is a sign your character isn't particularly strong.

Tails and Amy are good because they are both able to lead and are invaluable as supporting cast members.

Something Knuckles, Metal, Shadow, Blaze etc cannot say for themselves.
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>>583310872
That would be sad
He's probably just doing something else
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Chaos Boost in Sonic06 was just Kaio-kenx1,x5,and x10 respecively.

Chaos-ken if you would.
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>>583310979
Tails' cute sweat drops
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>>583308974
>has so much potential as a charact-
No she doesn't.
She's a purple brick that needs the universe to revolve around her (both figuratively and literally) in order to work in any capacity and the most she offers once you do that is being a jerkass woobie.
Having a meme powerlevel doesnt equate to potential as an actual character from a story perspective.
Or even a gameplay perspective for that matter.
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To tell the truth, I wouldn’t care nearly as much about feats and powerscaling if the fanbase at large didn’t. Because in this franchise, how popular you are determines how much they use you. Look at Shadow, he was literally supposed to be a one off, but he’s now 2nd on the totem pole and gets tons of solo material, solely due to how popular he is because he’s a strong aurafag character. They’ve literally admitted this. So no, I don’t want Tails to be Bulma, even if I can see the value of that role
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>>583304947
>Just say this sooner next time.
They did it on you on purpose. That's what I mean with trolls.

Your thoughts and would-bes are cool stuff, it's just you're wasting your sensibleness on people that never were onboard with Rotor. You don't handicap a char so much to the end result being on spotlight for a measly 3.5 seconds then kicked to street. It's not gonna make new readers like it anymore than, and it's accomplishing a false sense of "satisfaction" with naysayers (AND it'll just bummer [pun intended] up with ache any of the niche loving that char).

I don't think this is healthy approach. What would be, is just make stories of Rotor as protagonist doing stuff. That shrimple as shrimp. Go read Time Bomb, 119#, that's what I mean, baseline but enriching story, or just pretty much all of soft-boot Rotor, that's how you do it.

>Videogames?
As much shrimple as to make a separated spin-off game series with Sonic and FFs on their Archie elements and settled worlds, and then just eventually make a Rotor spin-spin-off game off when it's his turn. Exactly like Megaman X and Luigi Mansion games.

Shit in the biscuit, that shrimple.
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>>583311190
>2nd on the totem pole
1st.
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>>583309097
>Tails and Amy also go against the idea that Sonic randomly goes on adventures everywhere, because they're always with him.
Amy and Tails are the only characters who running into Sonic frequently even makes sense sincr chasing him on hos adventures is part of their characters.
It's literally the opposite.
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>>583311190
I don't want Tails to be Bulma because that goes against his character. However advocating for Tails being more physically active is often entangled in stupid powerlevel discussions that I just don't give a shit about
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>>583309285
But enough about Shadow and Sonic
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>>583310979
>>583310872
I have seen many things while on the net. And I've learned to stay quiet and not engage long before I came here. Besides, I'm more of an observer than a talker.
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>>583311323
Vegeta will never be Goku
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>>583311350
Then they aren't really characters, just accessories to Sonic.
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>>583310584
>that video
Now that you mentioned it, Arin's mentality seems like it has been very present among players in the Sonic franchise since forever, especially the classic fans who see the story as the extension of gameplay and speaks about the player alone, therefore, Sonic is cool because playing with Sonic makes me feel cool.
But it's worth considering it as a real issue, like you said. If I didn't like Tails for example, why should talking to him in Unleashed make me think he's cool and not an annoying waste of time useless character? This and how his and other supporting characters play out in the other games feel like a genuine flaw of the medium that sometimes fails to convince the player to go along with it. You can say they're stupid but blaming the player feels like the wrong move especially because these stories aren't well told anyway.
Goddamnit Egoraptor's stupid ass videos are still so relevant.

>It's a lot of battleshonen and marvelcape brained people who only value punching villains and being able to say their pet character could beat up other people's.
If there's any consolation I think some newer shonen like Demon Slayer make some of its supporting characters appear useful and inspiring at the same time like the guys mapping the crap out of the gigantic infinite castle like a difficult but necessary task
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>>583311514
But you NEED to have an opinion!
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>>583311067
:)

>>583311514
That's reasonable and smart
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>>583311571
Shadow is nothing like Vegeta. Sonic is nothing like Goku.
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>>583309409
>Okay now we have to add something for Tails and Amy to do
This doesn't even happen. They naturally find things to do because they are naturally useful as writing tools.
Characters like Knuckles, Shadow and Metal are the ones they ask this question for.
Tails and Amy keep showing up because including them is easy, not the reverse.
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>>583311724
Vegeta was literally referenced in Shadow’s original character docs
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>>583309632
They are literally just being weird and jealous because they see Tails and Amy as "top of the hill".
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>>583311846
Bill Clinton was referenced in Sonic's. Was Sonic on the island too?
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>>583311442
Am I the only who thinks IDW Tails is perfectly fine in the smarts and action department balancing? No really please let me say something good about this comic for once. He's smart, he figures out things with his head like the Zeti badges or his role in the Metal Virus and figuring out things on the spot like how the Gmod place worked, or turning Kit off. He can fight and smash a couple badniks and help Sonic, but he's not particularly strong and cannot do much more than the basics. I think he's fine in the comic except he doesn't do much story-wise.
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>>583311905
Maybe. He hangs out with Tails all the time and ignores Amy’s advances
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>>583311985
>but he's not particularly strong and cannot do much more than the basics. I think he's fine in the comic except he doesn't do much story-wise.
This is one of his major problems alongside being whiny and just OOC when Evan writes him.
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Genuine question, feel free to challenge me.
Writing Quality wise, what is the difference between IDW Sonic and fanfiction?
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>>583312003
I literally woke up today and found out that everyone turned Draco Malfoy into a student anime girl for whatever reason. Why is this happening
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>>583311985
I've never expressed a definitive opinion on it cuz I need to read IDW more thoroughly. I definitely liked him in some parts though
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>>583312201
Fan fiction writers don’t have as big of an ego
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>>583312201
IDW focuses more on OCs than fan fiction does and I am being 100% unironic
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>>583310529
Amazing post, Tailsbro! I agree. I had the same mentality as well and im glad I broke out of it too.
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>>583312041
I meant moreso when Flynn writes him in IDW. I think an interesting story with him and Kit is just waiting to be written but they'd rather just not do it because fuck me I guess
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>>583311985
It’s definitely an improvement on post-06 game Tails. The only people who try to argue otherwise are jpshills or people who just hate Tails
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I think the series would be better if Tails was gone.
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>>583312460
I think the fanbase would be better if (You) were gone
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>>583312326
(:

>>583312365
Kit is getting appreciated more lately, alongside his inclusion in Speed Simulator, so it might happen
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>>583312542
I'm not in the "fanbase".
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>>583312365
I will come up with a story idea for you if they would make you happy.
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I do not want to talk about Sonic anymore I want to talk about Oshi no Ko again but there is no connection besides the poor ones sparky makes.
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>>583312695
That would be very generous of you
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>>583312661
You’re here
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>>583312818
Then go to the Oshi no Ko general nigga
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https://youtu.be/1nHlxMWmNu8

Thoughts on this art style?
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>>583312914
This isn't a fanbase this is /sthg/
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>>583312918
There is none, the franchise died after the manga ending and unlike IDW Sonic people the lack of reading comprehension is why they hate it or why they can deny the canon Shadria esque ship.
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>>583312751
Looks awesome!!! Great job
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>>583313031
Why would you be here if you’re not a Sonic fan
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>>583312201
I honestly don't know the state of modern Sonic fanfiction, but actually there is like a specific writing style that AO3 native fanfiction writers use. Ian Flynn is obviously different than that because he wrote his stuff as from a different generation of fandom.

There are details I can go into but my mind is slow right now.
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>>583313104
To shitpost, duh.
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>>583312751
Beautiful!
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I find it funny that this split in the Tailsfags on here coincidentally revealed that about half of the Tailsfags in here literally do not care about Tails at all and just want his face plastered on everything even if it means turning him into a literal cuck. What do you even call these people? They're not self-inserters, just mindless sheep that will purchase anything with Tails' face on it. It's honestly fucking pathetic, I consider the self-inserting pedos to have actual more spine than this. At least they're aware of what they're doing and don't care if others call them pedos for it.
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>>583313031
It's part of the fanbase, so please leave.
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>>583313182
Oh my fucking god just fuck off you disingenuous shit
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>>583313182
Nice fanfic
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>>583312017
This, and unironically, I mean it. If you rub just three neurons yourself, you're bound to reach that wise threshold, and finally distinguish your own philosophy built on good faith and empathetic foundation. No such thing as "useless" char.

Being reluctant to leave this fandom is like never getting out your cave, lair to nebulous shadows and incestuous premature cognitions.

>>583304217
I hate AI so goddamn much, because I love that Rotor sleeping like that, just pretending to slumber and leaving that arm open to hug someone to him, but I can't and won't give any minimum dignity to any aberration of AI. :(

Some drawfag here right now ought redraw this.
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>>583313283
>>583313286
This guy >>583310529 literally admitted he doesn't care about the quality of the writing and games. He just wants Tails put into the product and if Tails isn't in the product then he has no interest in it.

You faggots literally do not care about this character AT ALL beyond brand loyalty.
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>>583313187
80% of you don't even like Sonic. You like your own made up version of Sonic that only exists in your minds.
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>>583313182
But what about the fandoms that don't care that much about characterization like for example the small horse cartoon fandom? Those guys get along fine with mischaracterizations born and bred by the fandom itself, a sort of "fanon."
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>>583313380
Wow, staggering percentage, babe. Maybe find somewhere else that's a bit more your speed.
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>>583313283
Not a single thing that anon said was disingenuous, you faggots started arguing amongst yourselves because a good portion of you just want to see Tails on the screen. Literally nothing else matters to you guys other than that Tails shows up. You faggots are just as bad as Silverfags who complain about not being seen enough.
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>>583313464
Small horse fans are just goodness, they don't care about the characters. They are all one dimensional anyway
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>Sega investors claim Nintendo has an illegal monopoly in Japan
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>>583313379
That's not what I said at all whatsoever. I care about the writing. Sonic 1 is also one of my favorite games. Tails is important.
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>>583313556
They do have a monopoly but that's mainly because every competitor kept shooting themselves in the foot rather than any Yakuza like activities.
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>>583313559
>That's not what I said at all whatsoever
>As he posts that Sonic 1 is one of his favorite games
I'm at the point where I can't tell if your just ragebaiting or if you actually believe the contradictions you're typing right now. If Sonic 1 is one of your favorite games then you clearly do not care about quality.
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>>583313379
I’m one of the people who want Tails to be written better, but I also agree that if Tails isn’t in something I’m inherently less interested in it. He’s my favorite character for a reason, I want to see him AND I want to see him used well. Any Tails fan that says they want him vaulted isn’t really a Tails fan
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>>583313379
His post was against fandom narratives and hating things without having experienced them first hand

>>583313529
If you've been following the conversation you'd know that a lot of shitposters here wanted Tails to be deleted from the series entirely which is a moronic viewpoint
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>>583313682
Sonic 1 is an amazing game, you are retarded
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>>583311190
I respect the honesty at least, but there is just so many problems with this mentality

First of all, being an "aurafag character" is in your concept, not what you do. Trip went and turned into a fucking dragon and 1 shot a giant mech but people dont see her as a top 2 in the verse aura character.

Shadow is an aurafag character because he is a black and red edgy Sonic expy with air heelies. Oh and his fangirls like that he wanted to nuke the earth over his onesan waifu and cried about it.

Shadow could job 20 times for the next 10 years and it wouldnt matter. The reaction would be people saying Shadow "deserves better" and was let down by the writers" and that people hate Shadow.
That's not even far off from what happened before Dark Beginnings and Movie 3 frankly.

Look at Surge. When people criticize her writing, they do it in terms of sayong "she was ruined". Like, unpacking that for a second. Built into that statement is an admission that thrybliked Surge before even knowing anything about her. Why? Because she was a green female hedgehog shaped rival expy who hates Sonic.
That's it. Her writing didn't matter. They see her writing as "failing the concept and ruining her potential".
What does that potential even mean? Its because consciously or not they understand they like the character on a surface conceptual level.

Blaze is similar. Its why her fans pretend to care about Eggman Nega. She reinforces the perception of her being another female Sonic rivalfag character.

Tails from a concentral standard just will not replicate this by trying to make him powerfag the way a Shadow does. It doesn't work and will not sell anyone on the character of Tails.

Same with Amy. You know how many people who shit on Amy literally just do it because they have a preferred waifu they wish was lead female and/or love interest instead?

Trying to contort Tails into a mockery of himself to appeal to edgelords is like how Man of Steel did that woth Superman.
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>>583313151
Get back to work Mr. Squidward
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>>583313556
Nintendo doesn't have a monopoly. They're not the only company that makes video games and video game consoles. They have plenty of competitors; Sega is supposed to be the biggest one. Sony is supposed to be the biggest rival console manufacturer
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>>583311585
How? Explain why.
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>Tailsfags genuinely believe Sonic 1 is an amazing game
Yup, this one's going into the collage. Keep telling on yourselves. This is hilarious. The backpedaling is also funny. I can tell at least one of you realized you showed your ass to everyone in the thread and are trying to reframe the topic. Hilarious.
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>>583313858
Based on sales numbers in Japan Sony might as well not exist. Hell software sales numbers usually make it so Nintendo holds the top 10-50 with Capcom and Square squeezing in
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Chad Rotorbro "nah, fuck off" vs. Tailspedos "ERM AKSUALLY TAILS IS GOOD IS IMPORTANT HE HAS TO BE EVERYWHERE HE LITERALLY HAS TO HE DID THIS ON GAMES HE HAS 9999999999 TRAITS THEREFORE HE IS MORE IMPORTANT I MEAN AS IMPORTANT AS MC"
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>>583313983
Schizophrenia

>>583313897
You call people NPCs yet freaks out over someone disagreeing with the status quo lmao
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>>583313775
You're trying to reason with a Tailspedo. They don't care about story or gameplay. They just want their character to be popular and are angry and confused as to why 90% of the fandom ignores or hates him.
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>>583313891
It really doesn't need to be explained. It's evident.
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>>583314071
>Schizophrenia
Yes, you have. No one is freaking out you pedophile.
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Did somebody say Tails? ^w^
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>>583313775
But I’m not asking to make Tails into an aurafarming edgelord, I’m asking him to do simply cool things from an action standpoint, which he CAN do. Keeping him as a Jimmy Neutron wannabe who only ever stares at his iPad and tells Sonic what to do, instead of doing anything actionable himself, is what I’m against. His name is TAILS, his flying with his tails and everything related to it should be a main if not THE main focus of what he does. That shit is cool, to everyone and not just the crowd who think Bulma is one of the best DBZ characters.
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>>583313840
There's nothing to do
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>I like Sonic 1
>WHAAAAAT HOW COULD IT BE YOU HATE QUALITY AAAAAA
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>I don't care if they make Tails literally suck Sonic's cock while pissing and shitting himself in fear of a basic robot, I'm not interested in Sonic unless Tails is in it.
This pic needs to be posted every thread from here on out. This is a perfectly fine and acceptable depiction of him according to Tailsfags on here. Just as long as he's involved and """"""""""""""""""""""relevant""""""""""""""""".
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Superman Sonic
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>>583314250
Tails isn't cool. He has NEVER been cool. Tails exist to make Sonic look good. That's all.
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>>583314279
The picture has Tails on it, so it's automatically 10/10.
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>>583314274
Let me expand on how that went:
>You only like Sonic if Tails is involved!
>I like Sonic 1
>WHAAAAAT HOW COULD IT BE YOU HATE QUALITY AAAAAA
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Tailshaters must be actual bots holy shit
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>>583314419
You are simply wrong
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>>583314521
No I'm not.
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Give me Sonic gays
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>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T VAULT MY CHARACTER JUST MAKE HIM SHIT AND CUM WHENEVER SONIC IS ON SCREEN JUST DO ANYTHING WITH HIM BUT VAULT HIM
Honest to god, I don't think there's a more pathetic group of characterfags in this fandom. Like what even is this cuckoldry. And to think these are the same fags who have the audacity to say this place is too full of shitposters. What a load of horse shit.
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>>583314457
Imagine how hard they would melt down if they found out Tails even has his own solo games
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Happy birthday to somebody in the world.
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>>583314634
Only Classic Tails has solo games. Modern Tails does not.
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>>583313974
According to the Japanese anti monopoly law, if a company controls 50 percent or more of shares in a market, then it's a monopoly and the Japanese Fair Trade Commission can prosecute the company for that. Maybe they can to Nintendo? Japan needs enforcement of those laws as much as the US needs them. We need a president and an administration that's actually willing to enforce them and break up all these greedy and unethical mergers
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yeah, vault Tails and bring Rotor back

tailsfags be really reaching a new all time low iq hit
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Sonic, Shadow, Knuckles, Silver, Blaze, Gamma, Omega, Rouge, sometimes even Amy are good characters to pick if you want to see cool things. Only poor mentally ill insecure boys ever chooses Tails because they subconsciously see themselves as the weak little loser.
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I am beginning to lose the will to even lurk on here anymore. Christ.
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>>583314690
This distinction is stupid and didn't exist until long long after the games were made. Tails has games
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>>583314457
They will never break us.
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>>583314579
Yes you are. Tails was always cool until they flanderized and nerfed him when the mandate for only playable Sonic went into effect
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>>583314634
lol
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>>583314615
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>>583314790
*Classic Tails
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>>583314776
>Amy
>Blaze
>>>>>>>>Good
lmao no, they should be vaulted too. We have Rouge already for girl role anyway.
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If Tailsfags gave even half of the amount of shit they claim they do about Tails, they would have stopped being fans of this franchise back in Unleashed.
The truth is simple. They on some level enjoy watching the little shit get abused and fucked up. There's no other explanation. No seriously, there isn't a single rational explanation beyond that. This thread is proof of it. They literally take pride in the fact that he's written like shit and that he's a shitty character.
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If Sonic was female, would Amy turn gay?
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>>583314776
Tails has more cool things than most of those characters
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JUST. MAKE. TAILS. A GIRL! Literally all problems solved. If you like Tails you'd still like female Tails. Only the annoying idiotic self-inserter shonenfags would get mad and abandon the character. You keep all the good things about Tails and filter the annoying people out. Eternal peace. Universally loved character.
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You're still doing this man. I can't believe someone can be this stupid
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>>583315073
Tails has literally done zero cool things
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>>583311649
>You can say they're stupid but blaming the player feels like the wrong move especially because these stories aren't well told anyway.
Exactly. Like, the things people say and believe about these characters are objectively false, but pointing this out isn't good enough. A lot of the bs people believe and say may be BS, but there is still merit to exploring what could be happening to facilitate that stuff being said about them, or at lrast understand it so better solutions could be achieved.

I remember before Frontiers came out for example, people would theorize that saving Sonic's friends eould unlock new assists and abilities for Sonic to use based on his friends.
One was Amy becoming a Piko hammer Upgrade for him to use for example.
In the end, we didnt get this but it would have been an example of making the player care about them gameplaywise. It's what BotW did and it worked quite well in helping people like the Champions and their sucessors in the sequel, though from what I can tell the sucessors are liked less because their abilities in the sequel are just less straightforward to use.
The Sonic series has the unique problem of being character centric but having gameplay that was designed around Sonic specifically so people end up seeing the other characters as distractions, and even if you just throw your hands up and say "fine, everyone plays like Sonic", this kind of player will just play as Sonic anyway and ignore the rest since Sonic is the coolest and the main character and the fantasy makes more sense with him.
Shadow is popular in large part because he is compatible with that fantasy. His fans tend to be people who see him as "Sonic but cooler"
This kind of person doesn't see the fantasy of being a cute foxboy who wants to prove to Sonic he can be cool to to be as cool. It's why he is seen as peaking in SA2.
Amy being a girly girl in love with the MC means if the swlf inserter onto Sonic doesn't wanna bang her, she gets dismissed.
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>>583314863
Tails wins as usual

I'm hungry, so I'm gonna go eat now. Bye!
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>>583315023
You are greatly overexaggerating the amount of Tailsfans who accept his bad writing. It was one dude
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>>583314615
ur sonic gayseggs
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>>583315237
Basically this guy last thread wanted Tails to be deleted because he hates the character but he still tried to come across as someone who cared about him

Now he's gone full schizo after no one bought his bullshit
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>>583315237
Nah, I'm pretty sure I saw almost every single one of you fags earlier in the thread say that you didn't care how badly he was written just as long as he was still in a significant role. Literally only one Tailsfag said the opposite and you guys dogpiled him.

You are fucking cucks. This is cuckold mentality. Not even Shadowfags were this desperate back in the meta era.
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>>583315134
I’m gonna call your boss and have you fired if you don’t get back to fuckin work shitposter
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>>583311985
IDW Tails is okay but thats kind of it. He never does anything particularly major that sticks in your mind imo. His biggest most memorable moment was creating the ZetiZappers and fighting Zavok and getting em sent to Lost Hex.
He really could use a dedicated story the way Amy got Trial By Fire
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>>583315269
This twink looks like he has no gag reflex
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>>583315416
You are actually a schizo and you need to go to bed
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>>583315415
>i don't like this character nowadays because they ruined it, that's how much i care about him, i miss him
>OH U SCHIZO
???????????????????????? bro what are tailspedos on????? is your brain fried from consuming too much cheese pizza????
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>>583315110
>>583302130

>>583308136
>You must be the only person in the universe who thinks Tails is cool in Colors because he translated the Wisps talking, like, actually cool.
No, I think that too, but I'm leaving now, I only just now saw this post
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>>583315424
Stop hatin'
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>>583315432
So just like movie Tails? Either way, massive improvement on current game Tails
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Stop with the gay pics.
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>>583315651
This is getting embarrassing dude
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>>583313310
>No such thing as "useless" char.
This is objectivrly not true and insisting otherwise is cope. Mighty and Ray don't serve a purpose.
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>>583315553
You keep saying these words and I don't think you know what they mean. You guys LITERALLY said that you didn't care about the quality of the writing he was in, just that he was in it at all. The only tailscuck who said otherwise was insulted and suggested that he was just shitposting until he stopped posting.
You are cucks. You do not care about Tails. You do not even care about this franchise. You are mindless sheep that clap whenever you see a yellow fox on the screen. You are, by a far and wide margin, the worst characterfags in this fandom. No fucking wonder why everyone in the fandom makes fun you guys. You're all pathetic.
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>>583315818
Shitdowbro!
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>>583315596
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>>583313379
>>583313182
It's literally the opposite. Thry care about Tails. YOU are the one that is willing to lobotomize him and just make him a Tails shaped Shadow expy
0 self awareness
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>>583315487
Is it true that 99% of Jetfags are very gay dude homosexual bros for Jet?
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>>583315818
None of these characters "serve a purpose"
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>>583315857
You have this backwards. Only one person said they didn’t care about the writing. You are twisting that around because you are a SCHIZO and you need BEDREST
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>>583315818
Fuck off tailspedo.
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>>583315952
Now you see, this is actually what schizophrenia looks like. Just wholesale making shit up on the spot. That second post you replied to was the first post I made in the thread.
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>>583315813
I have straight pics
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>>583315813
Agree, Tailspedo spam must go
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Shadow is a rough and conflicted but kind soul, not an angry rude egocentric who despises everything.
Amy is a sweet bold girl wearing her heart on her sleeve, not an obsessive stalker symbol of toxic misogynist writing.
Tails is a cute soft boy inspired by Sonic, not a vessel for insecure angry males who need to prove something.

Once again, all of Sonic's problems are a result of western pigs being incapable of understanding the nuances of japanese tropes.
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What I was arguing about is that Tails' portrayals in the meta era while largely negative did have good elements and weren't entirely bad, and even if they were that's a stupid reason to want the character to be removed from the series in the first place, which is what the shitposter wanted

Then I guess he concluded that not wanting the character to be removed and liking some recent writing decisions regarding him means you're a Sega bootlicker. And he also got angry over a guy saying he liked Sonic 1 for some reason
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Notice how all the Tailspedos scatter into the wind the moment you bring up the fact that they don't actually care about the character? They have no retort. No response. All they can do is feign to care about the quality of the games he's in to pretend like they actually care about the character but the truth is they don't. Sonic Team could quite literally have Tails be in a 15 minute long unskippable cutscene where he is swallowing logs of shit out of Sonic's asshole and these people wouldn't just be fine with it, no they would turn around and try to gaslight other people into thinking that it's actually cool that he can swallow that much shit without gagging.

Genuinely, and I do actually mean this, you people should be locked up and never have access to the internet. This fandom would probably be 10 times better if every single one of your pedophilic faggots were removed from it. You ACTIVELY support and encourage shitty writing and games in this franchise and then have the audacity to say that other characters don't deserve their screen time. Fuck outta here.
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>>583315956
idk, i just like this artist

these links however are for you jetbro
https://files.catbox.moe/ynzi75.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/e5ushc.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/btgy2v.jpeg
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>>583316345
Shadow is whatever Iizuka tells you he is chud
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>>583313974
That's their fault for abandoning Japan in the late 2010s and moving main headquarters to California and forcing all the devs and staff to cuck to westoid standards including sending all their info and data and forms to them in English.
Japanese fans were not happy about the betrayal.
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>>583316356
I don't think anyone in good faith would ever seriously say they want a character vaulted for their own good and that was mostly bait, probably riding on the coattails of Blazefag discourse of this week
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>>583316482
>I don't think anyone in good faith would ever seriously say they want a character vaulted for their own good and that was mostly bait
Then keep enjoying coward Tails for the rest of your life, like the cuck you are.
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>>583316459
>Japanese fans

What fans?
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Well the day has finally come. I guess I'm filtering out Tails from here on out. Sorry for that one Tailsbro I actually talk to but this is too much.
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>>583313983
Rotor has no character.
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>>583316482
Yeah it's very obviously just a guy that hates Tails and thinks him being removed is somehow a positive thing
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>>583316421
Thank you <3
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>>583316356
>>583316482
By all means, I hope you continue buying more shitty games so you can watch your character get humiliated again. Remember, you guys were the ones who said you wouldn't buy Sonic games unless Tails was in it. I hope the next game does even worse shit to him just so I can see how you fags cope on here and try to gaslight people into thinking he's cool.
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>>583316580
... and so he will never be really ruined unlike Fails which is going on a fate worse than death.
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>>583316632
It is a positive thing
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delete silver and blaze from the franchise
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You guys would be a lot happier if you accepted the canon Tails.
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>>583316559
Only the most retarded person on earth would say that the fix for bad writing is the vault
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>583316559(You)
>583316731(You)
Thanks for confirming you are a baiting shitter I guess
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>>583316767
Finally a good post
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>>583314154
>no argument
Got it
>>583314250
I don't know why you keep relying on these dumb cliches.
Tails can do cool things but is is a better and richer character due to the fact he can do more things than just punch people.
Also Jimmy Neutron isn't even an IPad kid.
I wanna see Tails do cool things to. But I wanna see him do cool things by being his best self, not by needing to powerfag on the internet.
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All I'm going to say is that I've never seen a Shadowfag say that they want Shadow in a story even if they turn him into a sissy wimp who can't do anything. Nor have I seen this with Blazefags, Silverfags, Amyfags, Knucklesfags or even Creamfags.

This is uniquely a Tailsfag thing and it is pretty weird when you point it out. I don't think it's cuckoldry though, I think it's just legitimate stockholm syndrome.
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>>583316731
This black and white view of things is dumb. I'm tired of arguing with you
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>>583316731
>you guys were the ones who said you wouldn't buy Sonic games unless Tails was in it
Who said this?
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>>583316883
Tails is series when he's more vulnerable and submissive

What's so hard to understand
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>>583316909
Just be a good little cuckboy and make sure to give daddy SEGA more money when they release next game and have Tails wet himself over a basic enemy type.
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>>583316795
Then be my guest and keep enjoying your godawful regressed character, if no effort will ever made to it except vaulting.
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>>583316881
Tails’ best self includes using his physical abilities. His name is Tails, not Gadget
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>>583314776
Tailsen Toppa Kobaruto Laggann says hi
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No no no guys, you're getting it all wrong.
Tails is a cool character BECAUSE you can write him doing literally anything and his cuck fanbase will THANK YOU for it. That's why he's so cool.
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How do we get rid of these pedos
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>>583316992
>acting like I’ve bought a Sega sonic game since the Advance series
Lmao
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Oh look at that, no more Tailspedo posting. Finally the thread can improve without the cucks here. Be sure to note this down everyone. Whenever you see a Tailspedo on here be sure to call them a pedophile and a cuck and make sure to acknowledge the fact that they'll buy anything his face is plastered to.
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>>583317005
Nigga I’ve been arguing for Tails to be used better this whole fucking time. You’re taking one person’s words and applying it to all of us because you’re a fucking retarded schizo sperglord
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>>583315012
Proving >>583313775 right lmao

>>583316740
He was made to have a gay coming out subplot iirc in Archie in an attempt to give him a character and was radically redesigned like 3 times to try and give him an identity lol. He's been ruined a long time ago and now is 6 feet under, Sallyfags desperately trying to drag him out of his grave like the Keychain accessory to her they see him as.

How anyone can call that a preferable fate to Tails is beyond me
https://youtu.be/45e7vYNj09Y?t=36
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This whole thread just proves that Tails is a bad character
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I can't wait until this general dies and I never have to deal with some of you faggots ever again. Insufferable pissants.
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Tails is cool!
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>>583317559
I agree
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>>583317573
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>>583317451
>>583313775
>>583314279
Which song do you girls prefer?
Which song do you guys prefer?
https://voca.ro/1kmFG7vAss2p
https://voca.ro/16r7dYjD5GP0
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>>583316883
>I've never seen a Shadowfag say that they want Shadow in a story even if they turn him into a sissy wimp who can't do anything.
But enough about Muhria
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>>583317658
evening Kit friend, hope all is well
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>>583317451
Why are you linking some bad rap? Seething hard now, Tailspedo?
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>>583317079
His name is Miles actually. But this argument is dumb. With this logic Sonic should only fight my using sonic shrieks and Amy should throw roses.
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>>583317854
I'm fine.
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>>583317823
Autistic foids don't count.
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*sigh* tailsfags killed the general again....
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>>583317695
Why is a Shitverfag like you desperate? What, is tailspedo your buddy buddy?
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>>583317973
He’s called Tails because his tails are his defining feature. If he’s not using them, you’re doing it wrong. It’s like saying Knuckles shouldn’t punch, or Blaze shouldn’t have fire powers, or Shadow shouldn’t be a dark version of Sonic, or Sonic shouldn’t be fast, or etc etc etc
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Miles Prower being Tails's "real name" is useless wiki trivia section tier knowledge. It annoys me that it's even real at all.
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Look at this photograph
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>>583318556
Shut up nerd
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Anyone excited for the Silvaze mechafort conclusion? Anyone?
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>>583318789
NICKELBACK
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>>583318907
The what?
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>>583318556
I like it. It’s a cool pun and also shows that he’s about speed just like Sonic
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>>583318969
Blackwood fucking sucks because his writing is too female coded
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>>583319141
I need an explanation on this one
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>>583319141
Well, yeah, he's gothic.
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>>583318225
Plenty of Amyfags actually criticize when she is portrayed as just le strong whamin actually.
Some Blazefags complain about people her not having her girlfailure side expressed enough.
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>>583319394
Why do you always lie
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>>583318969
The next IDW issue. The one with the castle and Blaze mind control.
I can't believe it took us two issues to get a "Buy the next issue to see cool shit!" rug pull. Is IDW doing okay financially with this strategy?
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OOH AAH YOU WILL PLEASURE ME OOH AAH
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>>583319723
>handsome
>rich
>owns and rules a castle
Why do you need mind control for this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5NsA4IOP4A
Night.
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>>583319429
>day 5 of starline training kit to drown sonic
Must suck being invincible, sometimes
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>>583319815
pleasant dreams
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>>583319815
Sweet drms
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This vixen lady is HOT
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>>583319815
Goodnight
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>>583318393
>He’s called Tails because his tails are his defining feature. If he’s not using them, you’re doing it wrong.
His name is Tails because he was bullied for it, but after meeting Sonic, he reclaimed the name and made it a badge of honor.
His name is Miles because he is a miles a head of you and can use those tails to speed ahead quickly.
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>>583318556
It's not tho. It actually adds to hos character. Also Miles is a smart sounding name.
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>>583319456
Ive literally argued with like 5 different Amyfags that are more militant on her not powerfagging too hard because they are really attached to her being "the normal one" of the group narrative mostly pushed by Al the Boi's video.
While Amy started normie, she has put in the work lpng enough that its okay for her to be strong even if she isnt powerfagging on the level of a Knuckles or Shadow imo
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>Sonic team claims they don’t want to use upscalers in their games because it dilutes the image quality
>despite this they use FSR1
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>>583319810
it's just not enough
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>>583320616
I hate this sort of monstrous BS. These types of scenarios are intolerable for my comfort characters to go through.
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>there is a chance paramount aka skydance will use DC as the comic print for their IPs
Rip in PISS IDW
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>>583320968
What?
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>>583320968
Thankfully, America is anti monster and pro freedom and liberty and individuality.
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>>583320616
That skunk and her date remind me of someone
if she had glasses I'd actually be suspicious
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Sonic should be unleashed. This franchise has no room for domesticity.
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>>583320968
There’s nothing wrong with that
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>>583321165
>2000
Gawd damn anon. From what time capsule did you pull this out of? Also more pics of Tails with older female canines.
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>583316421
>Sonic being a total slut at the end
*Boing*
Humina humina humina
Awooooga
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Guys, what if Eggman actually is a good guy? We only think he's evil because we see the world from Sonic's perspective, but in reality he is like that /an/on that traps hedgehogs and removes the ticks that latched onto them.
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>>583317695
Second one is more interesting, first one has clearer audio and vocals but not by much.
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every single satam slop has been replaced or has no place in main continuity already lol
like that was ameriturds creating a """solution""" to a problem sonic never had
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you could be drawing instead of baiting
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>>583321365
It's one of the few uploaded and saved scribbles I guess.
Eric did at least two more of Tails but they have tits and pussy.
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>>583321578
What It’ll Be?
https://voca.ro/12YfgOBeoWRk
https://voca.ro/1fILOqADy2op
https://voca.ro/18c9mzwFL6Si hisses more production wise
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>>583321902
This is fascism
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Stacyiona!
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>>583321787
You can't just say that and not expect me to ask for them.
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>>583321945
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>>583321652
But I did. Why didn't you finish your whiteboard drawing already anon? Don't tell me you suck at loomis
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>>583321945
Fascism? No, This is Sparta
https://youtu.be/sQs1cASjUD0
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>>583322064
>pic of her trapping the next victim in her cucking scheme
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>>583322064
https://e621.net/posts?tags=miles_prower+eric_schwartz+
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>>583322350
Only Archie Tails would be cucked by her. Game Tails rapes and gapes her.
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>>583322350
Canon.
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Cutie patootie
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>>583322434
>Only Archie Tails would be cucked by her. Game Tails rapes and gapes her.
Uh, nope. Fiona cucking Tails is a universal constant.
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>>583322467
kek
beautiful
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>>583322520
Fails bros...
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>>583321380
This might be impressive on IDW's part if anyone actually bought IDW issues.
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>>583322520
>humps the two plushie characters together anyway
What are you gonna do about it?
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>>583322331
my wi-fi connection sucks atm, and I've been procrastinating on getting an ethernet to type-C adapter
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>>583322615
Kys avatarfag
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Tails and Amy fan solidarity
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>>583322520
Her stacy levels are unmatched!
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what would be fiona reaction to this?
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Blackwood's punishment
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>>583322704
>Never trust a fox boy to do a hedgehog MAN's job...
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>>583322010
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>>583322704
>usually I like breaking balls but I can see you have none
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>>583322853
>Such a stacy, she even put in some femdom on in the escape plan acting with her man
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>>583322615
Do it. My wifi sucks too and I do everything by ethernet
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We love Tails here!
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>tailscels are it again
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>>583322753
Is chauvels still doing sonic art or did she stop making it ?
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>>583323305
Not the face…
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>>583322467
I can tell just from the art style that this comic is from mobius unleashed.
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>>583323356
I think she still does stuff but under the Glassfish alias now.
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>>583323415
He did unspeakable things to Blaze...
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>chauvels was a failspedo
wasted talent
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>>583323465
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>>583323337
Do you ever think about building lego bricks on knuckles feet?
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Does Blackwood rival Scourge in the scummy department?
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Is shaving your pits gay?
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>>583323807
Scourge canonically RAPED bitches. Blackwood is diet scourge.
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>>583323897
I don’t think so, I do it every some often because my deodorant doesn’t seem to work as well when it’s super long
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You know you don't have to be so rude if you want to post your ship anon.
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take your own advice, Tailscel
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>>583324424
All the characters mentioned in that pic should have a big bisexual orgy together
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>>583324424
>His girls
I have seen more Charmy art of them than with Tails
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>>583324571
He can join too
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Tails!
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>>583324424
failspedo mindset
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>>583324752
learned to love the way he was born! yay!
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>>583324424
I don't care which scrimbli blimbos you think hump each other, as long as you're having fun.
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>>583323897
makes it easier for me to lick them
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>>583324843
Yep, well said, his backstory is awesome

>>583324873
Same
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Fails!
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kek
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I swear I had more FionaxTails pics but I guess not. I'll have to look for some more sometime later.
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Douge.
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You know, I skipped reading the 2nd movie prequel comic until now but I have some fucking questions about this panel.
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>>583325897
tailspedo slop
>>583326237
cute and canon
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>>583326254
I forgot this existed
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>>583325897
>>583326237
bad
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>>583326369
How could you forget Robotnik getting fucked up on shrooms?
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>"Why do you hate Tails?"
Hate Tails? Nah. I found him a bit between amusing and annoying, but I didn't HATE him! That slap was for his own good since he wouldn't take the hint. He'll grow out of it. 'sides, he don't even remember it. (Wait, that"s not because I smacked him TOO hard, right?)
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>>583326664
I never understood the vitriol some Tailsbros have against Fiona. These are just cartoon characters at the end of the day.
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What if Malfoid looked like a Sonic? Plz draw her
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Tails Tails Tails the Tails always trans
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>>583326254
Bluecharmy on the left.
Someone draw bluecharmy
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>>583326852
so valid
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Looking through Chauvels' stuff, I just now realized she's into specifically dominant shota stuff. Kind of funny that I just now noticed this.
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>>583326785
>Malfoid
these twitter trends keep getting shittier and shitter
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>>583326963
If nobody else does it, I'll draw a female Malfoid hedgehog tomorrow that is only wearing boots and gloves.
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Best xur
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sparky is proof enougt that only the mentally ill likes tails because they self insert hard
they cannot tails as his own , HE is them.
Its why they hate/make so much revenge/ooc shit Fiona , they were wronged and the incels need retribution.
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I love Tails so much!
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>>583327238
>Its why they hate/make so much revenge/ooc shit Fiona
Damn. Sounda like Ian Flynn!
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>>583326778
>These are just cartoon characters at the end of the day.
This is something a lot of Sonic fans struggle with. It's not just the fans of a character that someone could reasonably dislike. They go further and attach the anger from fandom discourse to the character itself.
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>>583326254
Yep, the Chaotix debuted in the Paramount universe before a ton of other characters. Don't think about it
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All the Tailsbros have gone to sleep or left to do something else and this fag is STILL shitting himself over Tails existing lmao

If you're wondering, I'm just checking on here cuz I'm waiting for my earbuds to charge
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ok tailspedo
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>>583328120
They just can't stand perfection ^w^
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNVPO7q3xh0
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>>583326870
>Bluecharmy
That's just shading tho..rite
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>>583328156
ok tailspediatrist
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>>583328331
Tails is perfect as he is, he doesn't need to change anything about himself
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Good morning what did i miss?
>trannybaitposter
>fiona clones
>rails vs shadouge
I am worried about (You) and your mental health.
>>583326664
My very first issue of archie was a fandub of fiona's betrayal, and i think the confusion of watching a "tails but woman and evil" slapping tails + the fact tails always has been always my favorite was really intriguing.

I can't share the vitriol of many because in my mind another version of tails was cool, i used to create different tailses way before i knew about fiona. I just love cheek tufts i can't help it.
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>>583329292
meant for >>583326778
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>>583326664
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>>583326852
kys
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>>583329525
I fucking hate bandages under the shoe's soles. They're gonna get dirty, could rip apart and hard to apply and remove whenever you need to dress up.
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>>583329292
Good morning, and good post!
Some guy has been seething at Tails all night
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>>583329757
That's woman-thinking, Nine.
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>>583329954
>ropeless bungee jumping
>greatest champions are all xisters
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>>583330035
Impossible, people never seethe on /sthg/ because this place is drama free.
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Hello I am newfren, why is Tails trains
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Tails and his latest invention. The H.R.T.
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>>583330298
He isn't.
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>Uses guns
>Grinds rails
>Occasional vehicle sections
>Gets a pair of rocket skates

Playing Rift Apart, this shit feels like what Shad05 wanted to be. And given the first Ratchet and Clank came out in 2002, I can't help but think Sonic Team were copying this shit.
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>>583330298
not trains,
trans though, yes
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>>583330298
>trains
Sounds hardcore ngl.Can we have that instead? Tails as trains
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>>583330354
Ratchet is on another level, the redesign thous is ASSSSSSSSSSSSS I WANT TO RAPE EVERY REALISM FAGGOT omg just keep him cartoonish, star fox too keep him cartoonish.
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>>583330501
I hear you. You can just put everything on low to disable all the realistic rendering crap.
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TRAILS
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>>583330619
I approve of this one. Tails and his trains!
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>>583330619
in the Sky SC
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>>583330683
>4th image
Tails not beating the allegations
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He's the booooooooooooyyyyyyy
of the wiiiiiiiiiiiiiindddddddddddd

>>583330776
No idea what you're talking about friend
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>>583330605
Won't do shit about the model.
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Tails in forces was ic
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*bashes the table*
ENOUGH FOXES!
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>>583330776
>slippers
He's wearing ZOOEY'S clothes as a spare after showering together
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>>583331009
The guy you want to bait into a 50 hours long discussion is asleep

>>583331028
No!
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I have anon's dossier on ALL of you...
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>>583331028
what kind of clown puts bad subtitles over the same subtitles rofl
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>>583331380
I took the first bullshit over google images
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I'm out of pictures. See you next thread tailsbros.
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I know (You) look under the skirts of girls whenever you take the bus!
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I did not know Taips was Traps, can't wait to tell the chads at campus about this
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some dork thought we cared about Traips from Sonic or whatever, we're gonna rape his ass
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Hedgehog Engine is the worst internal engine of any game company
It makes Crystal Tools look like a winner
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Thinking of fast...
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>>583332720
Thinking of /fast/...
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>>583332720
paws…
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>>583332720
I guess you can say, it's.../past/...
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RUNNING THIS CAT OVER MEOWMEOW BYEBYE
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>>583330354
>Sonic fan plays a non-sonic game for the first time
Your mind will be blown when you learn that rift apart is ass compared to the originals.
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>>583334158
I like ass, so I don't mind.
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>>583326492
It's cute when "tough" girls are impotently angry, but can't even beat a little boy
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Is anyone even present here to report the spambot or is the whole thread just the spambot replying to itself?
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>>583334158
I've already played the first game game. I already know.
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https://x.com/VioletNovaGalxy/status/2106648757194371390
https://x.com/VioletNovaGalxy/status/2106652472261632346
https://x.com/VioletNovaGalxy/status/2106652627328979404
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Nobody cares about your tranny bf, krack
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>>583335508
kill yourself slashlet
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>>583334806
Who knows? After the ESGUSAID money ran out, the Sonic Franchise has had trouble getting funding for anything. That includes /sthg/ bots.
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>>583335508
Nobody cares about you and your nametranny with schizo headcanons over sonic shipping. Suck a shotgun and pull the trigger.
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>>583335508
This faggot is becoming Slashy tier, but I guess that's what hanging around Slashy does to a fag, nobody likes you troon
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Krack we know you're here, get a job, nobody cares about your namefag drama.
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I self insert as Tails because I have a massive crush on Sonic. I am jealous of their relationship.
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Shit nophono cares about hours.
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>>583336101
nobody cares wisp
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Insomniac somehow cranked out Ratchet and Clank games on a yearly basis from 2002 - 2013. I see what happened here:

THEY RAN THE IP INTO THE GROUND

That's why they're stuck doing garbage capeshit games. Well, at least Sega didn't run the Shadow sub-series into the ground with yearly releases.
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>>583335508
I want to know who gave people the impression that sthg is a gossip board where they can just share us with other trannies on xitter.
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>>583335508
I am making this reply in the hope that this post wasn't made by either of the people mentioned in those Twitter posts, and that, despite this, both of them, as well as anyone else who needs to, read my message: please stop fighting over stupid off topic nonsense and just enjoy Sonic together. Neither of you has the power to change the world for the better by having pointless arguments about it here, your Twitter accounts, or other Sonic communities. The people who can don't care and just want you to fight mindlessly while they make people suffer and steal their money. I'm sure you know that this is true regardless of which side you're on. I know you'll come up with copes for why you can, but that just isn't true. Accept that and just talk about Sonic instead, please. Let's talk about Sonic without bringing up people committing suicide over mental illness, mutilated bodies, and/or harassment. People already need to suffer these horrible discussions everywhere else, let's have a happy place that's free from them. That would actually make a positive impact on the world, however small.
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>>583336496
Krack, Violet and Slashy are ruining this place.
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>>583336402
Do you remember around 2008 when booting up any game with logos like the ubisoft one was guaranteed to be kino?
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>>583336101
That's cute.
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>>583336519
it's only slashy and violet doing this shit
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>>583336728
because Krack is a mongoloid who only talks about off topic drama, tranny shit and spergs about Shadow
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>>583336561
....No. The only Ubisoft games I played were the Prince of Persia Sands of time it's sequel Warrior
Within.
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>Krack, Violet and Slashy are ruining this place.
Though it was already ruined, first time i touched this place it was vibrant with any sort of characterfag and their shenanigans. And even then some people would say it was already ruined, turns out the fanbase was never good like whenever there's a new cancer the previous cancer is killed.
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>>583336808
ok violet
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Thanks for proving my point, kys krack
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But enough about xitter troon drama
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Sonic and Mario really are the only platforming franchises left. It's either them or I guess those Smurf platforming games. Also that Garfield one that came out recently. Maybe Spoongebob?

What happened to the Platformer?
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And this braindead retard >>583336905 can't stop talking to the wall.
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>>583336509
How are you supposed to do that when people go out of their way to target you when you try to talk about Sonic
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>>583336991
lmao bubsy thinks he's part of the team lmaooooo
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>>583337024
Bubsy got resurrect with some very satanic magic.
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Talent is the excuse lazy people chose to think some are chosen by a magic fairy to be good at something
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>>583337024
This, replace him with Jazz Jackrabbit
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>>583337018
nta but what are they gonna do, buy a plane ticket with their neetbux and fly across the world to set up a camp under your house?
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>>583336991
Nintendo doesn't make Mario games anymore. They haven't made a 3D Mario in 9 years, and only one 2D Mario in like 13 years. First thing I thought of when reading your post was Kirby. Also, there's a ton of indie games now. So your post isn't really true. Maybe it was in the early/mid 2010s.
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>>583337121
Jazz ain't dead tho.
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>>583337018
Talk about Sonic even more.
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Jizz the jerkoffrabbit
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>>583337165
>Also, there's a ton of indie games now. So your post isn't really true.

Name them. Specifically "franchises". Other than Demon Turf/Tides (which blatantly steals ideas), I can't think of any.
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>>583336991
Also, Spyro is getting a new game. Mega Man too. The 3D Pac Man platformers got remakes recently.

>>583337306
I don't know why it has to be "franchises".

>which blatantly steals ideas
So like everything else in existence.
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>>583337601
because he was referring to the “mascot platformer”, where you’ve got a central mascot holding up the face of the game(s), and not the entire platformer genre
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>>583337601
>I don't know why it has to be "franchises".

Cause that shows it is a success and people are actually playing the game vs some random Godot project that nobody has heard of i.e. Slop. Filling the shelf with indie slop platformers does not make a healthy genre.
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Things have gotten so bad for Crash that he's now selling Ikea furniture. Well, that one step up from sucking dick in an alleyway at least.
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>>583337119
Somebody told me a while ago that a web novel writer called Pirate Aba wasn't naturally gifted but instead a hard worker, which is what let them write over 10 million words of web novel
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>>583337801
That's silly, on top of still being wrong with even just the examples he brought up himself and ignoring the even more famous ones I mentioned.

>>583337806
I think this argument is as disingenuous, simplistic, and lacking in nuance as the opposite view that all the games you like are bad because getting more than one entry in a series means that all those games are just cashgrab slop garbage for obsessed autists to waste money and time on.
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No manlier feeling in the world than getting your dick sucked while gaming.
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>>583338204
I literally asked if it's possible to game and get head or get fingered before
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>>583335508
Nobody cares about your crush on crack, galxy
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Amy was 12 once you sick freak
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>>583338350
why woulnt it be
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I'll join your crusade Crock if I would get a quick BJ
I can wear Shadow cosplay if that will make things easier
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>>583338549
Crack cocaine
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>>583338204
Is that the inverse of fucking a chick while she's cooking?
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John the Hedgehog
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>>583338683
Im running out of words that wont grt flagged by filters
Truck, crock, crack, kr4ck
What else
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Hi! You boys telling jokes?
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>>583338839
Yeah. Here's one: how expensive is a roof?
Nothing, it's on the house.
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>>583338839
How many hedgehogs can win against Sonic? Zero
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>>583338943
Hey, that's pretty good!
>>583338995
I see the vision, but that's a given since he always wins anyway..keep workshopping it and I'm sure you'll knock it out of the park next time!
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>>583339212
Why do so many newfags think Fiona and her auto-automaton are the same?
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Dadaptadahptadah! PENIIIIS-PUUUUNCH!!
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>>583339439
Gay sex with Sonic
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>>583336991
gta3 killed them
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>>583339439
He didn't quite nail it yet.
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>>583339439
Amy should try to give him a blowjob and then get penis-punched LOL
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>>583339648
Sonic dickface
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The Penis Punch is the mightiest of abilities... use it wisely...
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>>583339209
How did the fight at Papa Johns start?
Somebody wanted a pizza me
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I got some penis punch right here! *pisses in your cup*
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>>583340092
dude
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>>583340197
>>583340197
>>583340197
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>>583340083
Very relatable, anon!
>>583340092
Anon I'm going to have to PAN you.
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>>583330307
Hyper Relativity Transporter?
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>>583338469
So was your mom so that makes you a pedo rape baby.

+20 opression points!



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