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The F4E is fat! FAT!
Man, I really wish the online coop had longer missions. It's honestly kino flying around with 7 other players blowing shit up. We REALLY need actual 2-4 player coop missions that are just normal length missions rather than this 6 minute dogshit. I've played the same "mission" like 4 times in a row and I'm already getting bored of the online.
why couldn't we get an emblem half as cool as this
>>583307438If they make the missions longer, they have to give more rewards to compensate. The missions being short as is, is a good middle ground.
>fast as fuck>agile as fuck, the damn thing can do barrel rolls>integrated ECM>drones>fucking laser CIWS>can only be killed by a mute, autistic protagonist, and only if they feel like slowing down for whatever reason>kills whole fighter squadrons>kills ships>kills everything>can fly below the surface to avoid missiles if everything failsJust spam these things everywhere and you win, its that simple.
>>583306438The formal answer is a bailed out pilot is Hors de combat, aka not an active combatant, a paratrooper is an active combatant. The realpolitik answer is pilots are really fucking expensive in a way paratroopers aren't, so both sides of a conflict don't want to start playing the "shoot the other guys pilots" game because it's a game both sides don't win.
Wasn't PW getting an update before AC8 released?
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>>583307541>they have to give more rewards to compensateHow is this even remotely a problem? Longer missions equaling more rewards is such an obvious and natural thing.
Is spending 100% of your country's budget on superweapons a valid solution to climate change?
>>583278069>>583296491There is a Tornado in game doe
>>583307672How long should these missions be? Six minutes is fine.
Tried another 2 times and didn't work at all.You can pick up those medals in free missions right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6gVNCtNEr8>Comona wins againHow do they keep doing it?
>>583307645Isn't PW abandonware at this point?
>>583307756No, they are not. They're short, they feel short, and there's not enough targets for 8 players to be engaging for everyone. I'll take the option to play full length missions with your friends any day over these bite sized spastic missions. I saw someone describe them being relabeled as a "blitz" mode and I completely agree with that. I understand that the average attention span is pathetically short but that doesn't make these missions suddenly not short. >>583307846I don't see how a finished game is "abandonware".
do any of the planes have a speshul gun
>>583307562two plane squadrons are immensely based in my opinion. they exude an aura of capability as if to say "these two are more than enough"
Here's a question.It's pretty clear that the Z.O.E. project was completed after Trigger's wild ride with Hugin and Munin. Then General (Grunder) moved onto the D.O.E. project. In that case, why does the X-40 have a canopy? Wouldn't COFFIN be complete by now? The previous gens had it, and I get those didn't have E.N.S.I., but wouldn't it be integrated already like in AC3?Also when the FUCK are we gonna stomp pubbies in AC:O? I need to make nuggets seethe with EWS.
>>583307645>>583307846All Arby mentioned was that he was working on it (fixing clouds), and apogizing for the artbook taking so long. My question is if the aerowar thing is ever going to come out, because those dumb saps have gotten literally nothing in return for backing that project.
>>583308085long story short: because 3 came out during the Y2K era
>tfw already seeing the same names across multiple days and different timesOnline's fucking dead already holy shit
>Arsenal Bird boss>Most of my team ignores the props and just fight the drones>I'm the only one actually doing the objective>It isnt until the last minute of the OP and me spamming the attack THIS command, does the rest of my team finally get it
>>5833083458 isn't like all those other modern games that have a honeymoon period of 2 weeks and then everybody starts having negative opinions about it... r-right, buddy?
>>583308345If you're playing warfare, yea that's not surprising. Most people realize the people playing that shit are miserable motherfuckers and will play assault instead.
damn watching tanya the evil and this is their air combat batallion's nickname wonder if its an ace reference
>>583308675people already had negative opinions about it day -3
>>583308837The writer's a big hearts of iron fan so I wouldn't be surprised if as a video game child he played Zero.
>>583308085Putting COFFIN on the X-40 means no ray tracing for the glass I'd imagine.
>>583307760Anyone? Can you get medals in free missions?
>>583308745I'm only playing Assault. It's still kinda miserable>>583308675The meta crystallized within like 2 days and it's complete cancer
>>583309073You can. Got the medal for Operation Broncobuster(M17) that way.
>>583308837Its an anime with flying magical people, even though there might be a bit of a reference, its more due to them being literal pixies.
I wish there was a variant of Mission 28 with no bombers, just endless waves of Sotoan fighters
>>583309073HI ASA!!!!
>>583309256NO, IT'S BEAR SEASON
>>583309234true i figured the pixie thing was more literal too
>>583307210where can you get adfx-02 upgrade blueprints don't see them in the battle pass
>>583307583Also the whole enlisted/officer thing. You can slaughter as many conscripts as you want but don't you touch someone important it's ungentlemanly
>>583309110Haven't ran into that so maybe it's a regional thing.
>>583309485From what I can tell, it's LAAM SPAAM here in the US. I've seen 1 (one) other person rocking EW aircraft, which is strange because those are insanely OP right now.
>>583309157thanks, then i'm totally doing something wrong in the megafloat mission. I tried;>Focusing the battleships to get a chain reactions in the arns>destroy all the gas tankers and canisters and fuel trucks>Destroying all the fuel tankers and canisters with 8AGM to instadeleted one arm of the megafloat>destroy all the pillars to get all the arms to come downI did it in pilot, veteran, elite and aceI have no idea on what i have to do>>583309380:)
>>583307210Mission 25 was such a fucking slog holy shiiiiiit
>>583307812This level felt like a redux of Unexpected Visitor, shit fucking ruled
>>583309407You get them as mission bonuses or buy them in the store just like any other plane.
>>583309639Oh I meant the seeing the same people thing. The meta is fucking shit though, yea. Sick of seeing stuff explode in front of me from some asshole's missile that he launched 20 seconds ago.
The F-18E any good in MP?
>>583309916yeah, one of the strongest mid-tier ground attackersbeing able to have both QAAMs, SODs, and PSM is a huge advantage. I just finished maxing it out yesterday
>>583309916Does it have LAAMs?
>>583309645>:)i love you asa, you're the best
>Very commonly seeing people wish for both more targets, longer missions, and just 4-man pure co-opWhat're the odds we actually get this?I bet zero.
>>583307645The absolute state of PW desu i enjoyed the game genuinely and am glad it came out but when you think about it, it was made as a love letter to beleived dead franchise that came back beat you to the punch and then in the time it took for you to release any meaningful content you did like one thing for a console release and promised s bunch of shit that never happened including but not limited to an art book people have been waiting 6 years for.Like dont get me wrong I get it small indie dev of like one guy but either admit its over and pack it up or actually do something.
>It's an didn't use my flares because they arent mapped to my HOTAS episode so I get shot down and rage quit the game episode
>>583310075I just want to be allowed to play online at all...
>>583308085Could just be they wanted to test ENSI under familiar conditions for the test pilots. COFFIN was "complete" but still not widely adopted, so most test pilots would have to get to grips with two major shakes ups, when your only goal is to test one.
I want an air-to-air missile that locks on a target and kills it, doesn't matter how short range as long as I see the engine and it dies.Is this QAAM or SASM?Every time I try to A2A the target does Geddan and dodges.
>>583307645devs too busy playing ac8 that shit aint comin. guy is prolly in here shitposting
>>583310301LAAM from max range
>>583308837is that chinese cartoon any good?
>>583308085Maybe they wanted to do one thing at a time granted coffin is pretty well a known quantity in one form the the other Falken/Adler had rudimentry versions all those random ass planes on X if we think about those (PA seemingly doesn't lmao) also did so I dont get why they wouldn't use it here but my guess is they just didn't because they wanted something more rudimentary instead of another potential failure point of a still semi experimental tech seeing as it already has the neural bridge shit.
>>583310301QAAM will try its damndest to defy the laws of physics in order to hit shit, SASM goes "close enough" and deals splash damage.LAAM and HVAA at max range are busted.
>finished campaign>it wasn't Belkathe best we got was a joke about social media conspiraciesmfw
>>583308085The real answer is that the gold on white canopy looks sick as hell
>>583310301QAAM is "historically" the agile missile that has more tracking than others.As of now the LAAM has a bit too much accuracy past the initial thousand meters, you can snipe people pretty much in the same way with longer range.
>>583310202bro, your BFM?how you gonna be a stick jockey and not instantly crank a high g turn into a 90 degree angle against any little white line on your radar? i didn't even know this game had flares until halfway through the campaign because like u said it's not even bound on my hotas kek
>>583310301QAAM with the flight time part is still a bit silly in 8.
>>583310416Do you like little girl committing war crimes on commies
>>583308345Can't people have the same name since theres an ID system? Surely all these random mobius 1s cant be one guy right? Though I assume you mean something far more distinct than ac reference names.
Probably my only complaint about the game is the lack of raw terror the enemy army has when you show up, that shit was the best part of 7.Also fuck trying to make me feel bad about killing the rookie squad especially that rookie chick who an heroed after getting shot down, you can't have Satoa spend most of the game trying to enslave or genocide everyone else then play that card Double fuck Selene for that shit too, I sent all your men screaming to hell where Satoans belong
>>583310476>implying Enso wasn't just Grunder but electrosphere'd
>>583310442This is the first time I heard anything good about the HVAA, tell me more.>>583310590Will experiment with 2* flight range part, then.(also this is for online assault)
>>583310416yeah it's a fun watch so far, if u like alternate history ww1 shi the battle scenes are actually rly fun and high budget, u can tell its made by some real war larp enjoyers, like that anon said def someone that plays hoi lmao opening is a bangerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fggISqEyuewnot that many eps os I suggest it >>583310606those guys ain't commies i think, I guess they're a reference to when people tried to fight ww1 with napoleonic era tactics and got wipedbut i forgor who did that, p sure everyone did at the very start of the war then realized they were being farmed
>>583310606tfw she caves in the end and becomes a god simpLMAO
>>583310606I will now watch your anime
>>583310476Belka's gotta be there somewhere. The big bad superplane is a descendent of the ADF family, and some think the Submarine in M30 is speaking in german. ENSO has to be some sort of Belkan front, I mean their mission statement is literally to eliminate borders
>>583309663>Destroy these targets>MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT>Now destroy THESE targets>MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT>Destroy these definitely last and final targets>RAILGUN ALERT RAILGUN ALERT RAILGUN ALERT>MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT>OKAY this time definitely destroy the last targets>TASHA TRAUMA>MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT MISSILE ALERT MISSILE MISSILE ALERT>Just FOUR more targets, then you're done>Holy shit it's actually done30 fucking minutes if you didn't die of course
>>583310859EO basically owned everything before their plan got found out. So, of course they had belkan tech.
>>583309663>>583310927Tourists fuck off
>>583310732Religious fanaticism is a hell of a drug.Does make up for it when they start panicking as you push their skulls in like newborn babies, in my opinion.
>>583310859Honestly i had a laughing fit when i heard about enso order objective. I genuinely went "Pixy you did it again".That was too n the nose to not be intended.
>>583310859The sub was made by a joint venture between Enso and General, and my dumb idiot headcannon states that General is just Grunder so they MUST be Belkan.
>>583310965No, it fucking sucked and this game is padded to shit, fuck you
>>583310815also this was so funny kek
>muh belka it was belka!ugh, give it a rest already! can't you guys see that there's other evil people who are way worse than belka?
>>583309846Hope you found the Spare squadron post Buddy
>>583309645i cracked the codeTL;DR, don't make your teammates shoot at all and ONLY focus pillars. Only after destroying all the pillars, focus on the few remaining targets
>>583310075>japanese company>listening to feedback>ever
>mission 15so this is what they call "rad as fuck"
>>583311428have you heard of the Belkan Confession? The shit in AC8 has Belka all over it.if notIran actually took credit sure. but it's clear the people were manipulated
>>583311428
Good God mission 07 was fun, but fuck me I'm glad I S-ranked it ont he first go because I ain't going back.
>>583310762Maybe they got nerfed in 8, that's totally possible, but they could pull faster turns than QAAMs in 7 after their 1 second homing penalty wore off. They also hit hard, and they go so fucking fast that they give you almost no time to react. If you got stuck in a lobby with a boom-and-zooming Darkstar, HVAAs were the easiest way to completely shut it down.
>You have an unclaimed reward!>It's in the Ace Pass!>lol jk there's nothingFIX YOUR FUCKING SHIT SCAMCO
>>583310301QAAM if you want to snipe players in Warfare, LAAM if you want to snipe NPCs in Assault. These are the only two A2A weapons.
>>583311428yes, i agree completely. stop worrying about belkat. definitely not a belkan
>>583311608this is pure slander
Some second monitor content if you'd like
Yeah I'm done with Online. All of these modes suckAt least the campaign's fun
>>583306328Even worse: F-35 wingmen use HCAA+8AGM, even if you only own the default LACM
>the missions aren't too short>frequently finishing missions in 5~ minutes nowOnline will not last like this. Mig-31 fuck gets MVP because he spammed half of the air to death with LAAMs
>>583311813Emergency Sortie needs to happen a lot more frequently.
>>583311812Did you give up on Luna and moved over to a new PNGirl?
figured out how to change your name onlineit costs 50000 zoll, it's at the bottom of the blueprints tab in the store
HCAAs getting their capacity nerfed completely defeats the point of them desu
>>583312031That's as much as an F-22
I'm only on mission 8 but>NO ONE gives a fuck about Cope biting it>All the chatter is about how we're cool now that cope is owned we fight backThat's fucking funny. Would be funnier if he never existed and Rex's schizo ass was coping for real.
>>583311812>>583312031full 3d tracking lmaoalso I forgot the linkhttps://www.twitch.tv/jeanfaymas
>>583311812this the chick who broke down crying fighting ibis in ac6?
>>583311428>other evil people who are way worse than belkaname some, go ahead. I'll wait.AC6 didn't involve Belka, but no one was more "evil" than AC4/5/0/7 Belka
>>583312241He never shot down any sotoans, literally anyone would be better that Cope, pretty sure they were all glad.You'll see later, the voice actors can really put in real emotion.
FYI ACO player names don't have to be unique. I found 2 Pixy's in the same match
>>583311813yeah it's and imagine how unplayable it'll be when everyone gets their favorite planes. imagine you buy the game on sale, go to try out online and get ASSBLASTED by level 20 raptors and felons fuckin kek
>>583311859One LAAM slinger can solo the entire air component of a mission and it's just so cool and awesome and not at all obnoxious
>>583312457>name some, go ahead. I'll wait.sotoans, insurance salesmen, scientists with surnames starting with C
i tried cheating my zoll but i think it's stored server side
>>583312713Simon dindu anything!
>>583312374idk, new to this one, but it's fun so far
If I fail this again I'm going to fucking lose it.
>two missions aborted in a row because players left>emergency sortie pops upHuh, neat.
>>583312976Bombs.Lots of bombs.
>>583312457>ac4>belkawhat?
>>583312891shalom
>>583313059NTA but I've used more UGB in AC8 campaign then probably the entire series combined so far
>Find a nice Sotoan girl>Things are going well >Suddenly, she brings a sheep to my house>Says that if I cannot bring the sheep to orgasm, this relationship is doneI knew I should have listened to my old man when he said. Sotoan girls are known for two things. Fucking sheep.
>>583312976I offer my best Fighter, and 4 friends who also specialize in Fighters. We'll keep the UAVs under control
so high pressure components 2 and super maneuverability 2 are the go-to parts to pick up first right
>>583310859Enso did to Grunder what GR does to EnsoGrunder got caught doing fucky drone bullshit that almost caused a runaway AI disaster (plus everything they did in AC5 being declassified by Osea after the time limit is up), gets sanctioned HARD, has to dissolve pretty much their entire aerospace/AI businessEnso scoops up their research, and the researchers can continue their work anonymouslyEnso gets caught, etc...
>>583313138no. he literally hasn't done anything yet
>>583312457>AC6 didn't involve Belkawho do you think engineered the Aigaion
It's always the belkans
>>583313226Signal boosting this, also wondering of Speed+Accel 1 is better than Speed 2.Actually, while we're at is, is Speed+Accel 1 better than Speed 1?
>>583313149I swear UGBerkut got me like 50% through the whole thing, and about 30% more was all Hornet and preorder Tomcat with UGBs. They're actually ridiculous.>>583313226Either SupMan or Flaps.
why is there such a strong correlation with incredible engineering feats and being evil?
Huh, just noticed roads have traffic driving around now
>>583313478AC8 feels insanely ground biased to me
>>583313284In fairness that one seemed more like a case of "dear god please give me asylum" then any active plot.
>>583313059>>583313178I'm so fucking angry.
>>583312457>AC6 didn't involve Belka
>>583313487Really?
>Megacorps quickly take over Strangereal >After EO nearly fucks everyone overYou would think that the governments of Strangereal would be like, "wait a fucking minute, we shouldnt let any company get that big again!" >But it was decentralized! Everyone already knew by the end how big they actually were.
>>583313445Speed 2 also boosts accel because of fucky calculations. The way I've heard it explained is your plane has a predetermined "speed curve", accel increases the angle of the curve but stops at the same point, but speed raises the whole thing.Speed+accel does both, but half as strongly, so it ends up being worse than just straight speed.>>583313616Pain.
>>583313630he didn't build the ISEV
>>583313092the Grey men started doing their jewry in 1996. So it's not impossible that the Erusian invasion was because of them.
>>583313659Given how little anyone seems to give a shit about our growing corporate overlords irl it's actually pretty realistic
>skins obtained in the campaign can't be used onlineFucking why?
>>583313847
>>583313713>does both, but half as stronglyThe exact information I wanted, good kill
>Average Morgan pilot
>>583313284Thing is the belkan with them wasnt some belka hardliner but AWWNB guy like the other anon said seemed more like a way to just seek asylum though he did fight in 2 wars for them so had to be some motivating factor but I dont think it was for the father land in his case.
>>583313573They overcorrected after everyone complained about 7 being air biased (specifically the drone swarms)Ideally 9 would bring back 6's huge multi-objective missions and you can choose whether you want to ground pound or join the furballs
>>583314151>They overcorrected after everyone complained about 7 being air biasedThis is like complaining Gran Turismo has too many cars
>>583314323The drone swarms did get a little boring desu
>>583313847i think you get the ace skin for maxing out a plane's level in online. could be wrong but i saw someone with an ace skin
So, F15C or J for online? One has UGBs but I dunno if that's enough of a reason to get one over the other.
>>583314323You literally couldn't bring the A-10 anywhere without >[MISSION UPDATE]>hey guys the arsenal bird sent 300 drones go do something about it :^)
>>583314410Now you get tons of point scoring missions where you just sweep back and forth with the UGB
>>583313847>>583314451Can confirm. You get them for unlocking (not reaching) level 20 for your plane.
>>583314573I'm genuinely irritated about this.
>>583314531>Hey here's this mission where you need to go nice and slow to ID unknown ground targets>Also it ends with a drone swarm. Fuck you.
Hey, where's my superweapon fight with an epic theme song that's worth streaming a million times? WHERE IS IT, PROJECT ACES
>>583314531Ace Combat once again reminding people where A-10s belong in the 21st century; in the hanger.
>>583314573What are the other level 20 limit skins? The standardized one?
>>583314573How do you maximize aircraft xp?
Where the fuk is Neucom in 7 and 8? It's all GR this GR that? Last times we know they did something are smartphones and ACX.
Is the full OST uploaded anywhere yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKFSIOleDw0I unironically pogged in the second half. Haven't seen anyone else comment on this but I feel this was one of the few moments that really created a distinct moment thanks to the music, something 8 is lacking in.
Difficulty doesn't matter when ace hunting, right?
>decide to finally finish AC7 before playing 8>get to the last couple of missions>Radicals have no real objective and are unorganized cannon fodder relying on the drones that aren't even really under their control>Tabloid dies offscreen from a rock falling on his head>Princess "dies" by parachuting into a rocket explosion >mission 20 is a fight against 2 mute drones that don't even come close to being as dangerous as Mihaly>everyone still follows Trigger anyway, doing literally nothing but dying like chaff>pretty sure the fight bugged out because after blowing up both drones it played a cutscene of one blowing up and the other flying around like i had just killed the first one, and then it turned out to have not blown up anyway after killing it again in phase 2 for the obligatory corridor segment>Princess somehow survived despite her parachute being blown to shreds onscreen>Count follows Trigger through the tunnel for no reason besides providing a <30 second fakeout deathAre the DLC missions any better or should I jump straight to 8 because that whole last hour was really limp
>>583314994DLC gives it a proper ending imo
>>583312457The Satoans are giving them a run for their money. Literally every plan they came up with was a doomsday plan
>>583314789Neukek didn't become a big player until General scientists defected a little before the events of 3. Kinda the whole reason the intercorporate war happened.
I wonder if the online lobby will get decorations for christmas or something.
>>583314994The DLC is the best part of the game.
>>583315164they're a bunch of nomadic primitives with a warrior culture. They were harmless and kept in check by the Yukes until Enso gave them weapons of mass destruction thinking they'll be big boys about it
>straight up locked out of ac online if you're on linuxOh, okay then
>>583314994>Are the DLC missions any betterThe DLC missions are genuinely a million times better than the main game. >mission 20 is a fight against 2 mute drones that don't even come close to being as dangerous as MihalyBoy do I have some good news for you
>>583315180why did those scientists defect, again?
>>583314484kek
>>583314743The Ronald Mcdonald mustard yellow ketchup red skin you might have seem in the online trailers/previews. It looks ok when completely filthy, I guess.>>583314754To unlock level caps, go to your hangar and click the specific plane you want then press your left thumb stick (L3 button?). It'll give you a menu for either Level Cap Unlock (which is where the blueprints come in) or to use an XP item. If you don't have enough blueprints you can press L3 again to go straight to the store and spend 10k Zoll per, instead of having to back out of all the menus and trying to find the specific blueprint in the store.
What's with the crazy RAM usage the game has? Is there something I need to tweak in the settings?
>>583315609Yeah and every single one of their plans come down to>Kill as many non combatants as possible for shits>Enslave any survivors>If all else fails make the land uninhabitableFuckers are Mongols with rocket launchers
>>583314573Can you run the Sotoa skins as well? Or the Shadows skins? I assume not.
>>583315812>Man, we have the tech to build floating cities! >We can literally just move onto the ocean and become the best nomads ever! >FUCK THAT SHIT! LET'S GO TO WAR!
>>583315689>implying it was Belka
so apparently this is sotoa's capital
>>583315802No, it just munches any and all available memory capacity. Probably a UE5 thing.
>>583315970We Dubai now
>>583315759That's some grade A eye cancer. Thank you for your service, anon.
>>583315812sorry saar. Izzat has to be redeemed at all cost.
>>583315970those big white towers *are* the cities, basically
ALPHA 4 COME IN GOD DAMN IT
>>583315970>fuck with the notUSSR>expect they will just say "ggwp"unlike the Sotoans, their weapons of mass destruction weren't gifted
>alicorn sortie>my only plane is the fishbedoh yeahit's retard time
>>583315970God I wish we had a chance to go to town on that place like we did with Farbanti. My jet demands more Satoan blood
>>583316274You can't be worse than this fucking deadweight asshole >>583313616
>>583316274literally same. i try my best with my little mcg (im not high enough for mgp yet) but the morgan nukes drop my frames while i'm gunning
>>583316229>>583315970imagine flying through this fucking thingsorry for the blurry pics. this is literally how they are on the shimizu website that came up with this concept
Having been a player of the entire franchise since I was a kid, I did my first playthrough of 8 on Veteran, and I actually felt like it was surprisingly easy compared to some of the previous games. Did they downgrade the difficulty tiers so that in reality Veteran is normal, Pilot is easy, and Rookie is journalist mode?
https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat8wingsoftheve/mods/15>AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY DOES MY DECADE OLD GPU NOT WORK WITH MODERN GAMESThese type of retards are the reason the game had mixed reviews the first few days
Hortus regis alti is soooo goood brosI don't think there's better music on a videogame this year.
>>583316546I got three missions into Vet before cranking up to Elite on the off chance Vet was like RE4's Hardcore mode
>>583316608They did a great job with the soundtrack for 8.
>>583316271why didn't they attack the Yukes anyway? WTF did the FCU do to them?
>>583316554I remember being poor and holding on to hope that a mod would let me play current games.
>>583316554Game is playable on my ancient i5 7600k/3060ti/16GB DDR4 somehow, I was surprised.
>>583316546i had 0 difficulty on elite and pretty much s ranked every mission but a couple of them on my first try. i'm only 3 missions into my ace playthrough though so no comment there yet
TLS is extremely fun in AC8, but holy fuck the rank grind to get any of the planes i actually want is brutal. Also, there need to be superplane-banned and cost-restricted servers, because you can do cool strike package shit with multiroles and ECM planes that can handle all sorts of situations, but direct fire weapons just shit all over that.
i need a sugar momma to buy 8 for me, god damn
Me and Baxter are gonna take EA-6Bs out to Rio Bajo. Surely, nothing bad will happen to our copilots.
>>583316546Yeah, I was collecting S ranks left and right on Vet on my first run too. Probably could've started on Elite without much trouble.
So I waited until AC8's regular release before I thought about pulling the trigger on buying it, but with a pricetag of 70 bones + eurotax I feel like asking you guys about your experiences with the game so far, I guess just to assuage some lingering concerns.>what do you like about the game?>what do you not like about the game?>what is the online like?>is there campaign content only available through online progression and/or vice-versa?
>>583316984They're manequins, the endurance is reaaaally understaffed
>>583316984kek good point, i didn't think of that. if you fly a two seater in that mission your copilots must just fucking die
>>583316608>>583316835Saw people saying 8's music sucks in previous threads. Those anons must be deaf I swear.
I FUCKIGN KNEW IT
>>583317095>believing Fake News in the big 2030
>>583316848>>583316848>why didn't they attack the Yukes anywayThey did 20 years ago.
>>583317095
>>583315905Sotoa/FCU skins are Store limited and cost 10k Zoll per plane, they came wit my F-14A thanks to deluxe I think. Shadows I'm not sure, I don't have any planes that they flew since I blew all my money into upgrading the MGP memeplanes. You do get a bunch of Joker/Queen skins for completing the campaign, at least.>>583316072Yeah, it's pretty lame. Weathering really livens them up so they don't look like a child's model plane and I'm sure it'd look better on a Rafale or Flanker, but it's still a pretty disappointing unlock.
>>583317418I don't see the one for the F-16 at all, maybe I'm just blind or need it to be level 20.
>>583315689Because GR shut down the Darkness of Enigma project
>>583317336Ace Combat 02
A Belkan Ace will stop Nemo, it will redeem the country
>tards still think the problem with MP is cost and not the massive stat gap from leveling planes
>>583317484Unless the F-2 skins also work for the F-16, anyway. Same thing with the F-15s.
Cipher is Nemo
>>583317032>likeit's everything an ace combat should be, the soundscape is a notable improvement and the clouds are prettier than 7>dislikenot every mission is a winner, no F-5E, limited number of EW planes>onlinesucks! i'll keep grinding it anyways>the other oneplanes in battlepasses (and i assume later when they get converted to DLC) can be used in campaign after you beat the game, you unlock a bunch of liveries and emblems for online after you beat the campaign
>>583317590would actually be kino
>>583317243OH YES? TELL ME WHY BELKA IS NUKING ITSELF (AGAIN) THEN>>583317370I KNEW IT I CRACKED THE CODE
>>583317095>>583317728Those FUCKERS
>>583317590>mfw it's pixy
>>583317728>BELKA IS NUKING ITSELF (AGAIN)it was Enso. 0 evidence of Belkan involvement
It drives me nuts that the Shadow Emblems skip about 3 moon phases
I wonder if we will get a game or dlc where we follow Tasha's mom during the Belkan-Sotoan war.
>>583317961you mean the Yuktobania-Sotoan war right?.....
>>583317637Update: they don'tFuck if I know how to get the Sotoan skin for the F-16 then.
>>583318081Yeah, my Belkan handlers called me an-
>>583317954>0 evidence of Belkan involvementTHAT'S THE SMOKING GUN. HERE YOU GO.
I can't wait until AC9 lets us take on a hijacked Analemma Tower and the player character has to face down hordes of UAVs using the flight data of various ace pilots interned in the massive tower funerary section.
>I'd rather nuke myself again before letting the world know I am the culprit every time
I laughed my ass off at Comona beer. Great bit
>>583317931he's literally Mihlay age by 2040, so it tracks.Finally finding a reason to live would be pretty nice
>>583317961>>583318161
They hit Leasath! The retard hornets are going to get angry again!
>>583317961No
>>583318293>Pixy is the one who saves the world from the megacorps>Goes on about how back in his day, NATIONS fought for whatever reason, not soulless corporations
>>583317954One of Enso's primary facilities was in Belka
Guys if I was strange-amazon/lockheed I'd build a branch in belka, those engineers would work wonders for me.
>>583317954Enso is global, of course there's Brlkan involvement.
I've been playing for 3 days, are scrambles and emergency sorties really that random?
After a bit of googling and asking a stupid fucking robot piece of shit that I had to correct 5 different times, the Sotoan F-16 skin just isn't in online, lol.
>>583317032>what do you like about the game?Flying around dodging Land Battleships' railguns are like dealing with mini Stonehenges. I'm an absolute sucker for Stonehenge, core memory type shit.Occasionally being restricted to only using carrier capable planes is an interesting twist that forces you to make smarter long-term purchasing decisions. My first playthrough I made some unfortunately poor choices but the Su-33 I grabbed managed to be good enough to get through it. If I had been on a harder difficulty I might have been screwed in later missions.I was pleasantly surprised by the length of the campaign.>what do you not like about the game?Some of the plot points and cutscenes could have used a bit more polish, but it's leagues better than the mess that was AC7 (due to that game getting constant rewrites in development hell.)Unreal Engine 5 bloat. On max settings 1440p DLAA, on an RTX 5080 it was usually fine but during some of the absolute largest particle heavy explosions the framerate could start to crawl. Occasional hitches in certain cutscenes too. One of these days I'll look up how to disable temporal based AA and sharpening filters and other modern cancers.>what is the online like?Barebones and has the audacity to bother with battle pass and loot crate nonsense while being so sparse. Maybe in a couple years they will have something worth actually committing to.>is there campaign content only available through online progression and/or vice-versa?When you start a campaign you get absolutely slammed with messages about how most things you unlock won't carry over to MP. I'm not sure about MP stuff going to SP though.
>>583318619i played nonstop for 3 days and only got scrambles on my 3rd day
https://x.com/GIHI_DAI1/status/2105482101894295667So the Sukhoi are the best for bullshit?
>>583318626Non-zero chance it'll rotate in when the current batch leaves.
>>583318106I think it'll come later, seeing how the only FCU/Sotoa skin options right now are the F-2, F-4, F-15C, and A-10 right now. Plus all of those have a 5 day timer, which is when I assume Bamco will rotate them out and start selling the next group of FCU/Sotoa skins.
>EO tried to cover their tracks by nuking all their buildings >Everyone points out how this is stupid and people will figure out real quick that this means they are involved with the war somehow, or at least up to something shady>Turns out the entire war was planned by some young hotshots at the companyYeah, certainly screams that.
>>583318487>Anfang>literally "origin/beginning/start"IT COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE MORE OBVIOUS
>>583318748>>583318759WHY WOULD THE SKINS FUCKING ROTATE YOU CAN'T BUY THEM WITH REAL MONEY HOLY FUCK KILL WHATEVER NIGGER THOUGHT OF FOMO
>>583318837Everything about the online is shit, yes
>>583318764Yea but there's not actually any concrete proof so everyone involved can just fuck off and start under a different name.
>>583318715Like they usually are, no? Other than maybe the superplanes.
>>583318224its incredibly frustrating that we have so many cool ideas that we know how to actually execute but we just... don't
>can only get general blueprints from the jewpass or the limited modes>the free jewpass has very few of them>limited modes have a cap of 5 per day>triggering these modes is completely random>if you don't get enough sorties or scrambles you just miss out on the blueprints permanently>just like in infinity eventually you'll start needing hundreds of blueprints to uncap planes that just the pass won't coverstrap me to a V2 and fire it at the Bamco offices
>>583319083i love asian gacha mechanics
The grindiness wouldn't be so obnoxious if it also wasn't just shit to play
>>583319007Not everyone has the budget of the United States military, unfortunately.
>>583319083Yea it seriously needs to be changed if they want the online to last. Did they not realize jewing people extremely fucking hard and making grind to level a plane take WEEKS is going to do nothing but kill it?
>>583318293>>583318454I'm okay with the Ace Combat series ending with this. Literally can't top that plot.Nemo is the culmination of every Ace protagonist fed into AI. The only exception is Cipher and Pixy since they were mercs who weren't tied to governments that got swallowed by the corpos.Pixy wanted to destroy borders, spent all this time learning wtf is a "border", and is the one to ultimately save it.Wrap it up PA, that's your ending
>>583319258even they don't build anything anymore
Huh? I have over 600GB of free space. What kind of PS2 logic is this?
>>583318764A GROUP OF YOUNG CORPORATE EXECUTIVES
>>583319413>TL Note: Space means Slot
>>583319413It just means "out of replay slots".
>>583319470>>583319489Why are there limited slots? I'm not even done with 1 playthrough yet.
Back to green!
>>583319549superior japanese coding ability folded 1000 times
>>583319349They still be building shit but it's mostly missile and drone autism now.>>583319549Wakarimasen lol
>>583314508Pls respond>>583319549There's 10 slots
With all the unrealistic and rather unbelievable stuff this series throws at us what really got me was that the A-6 the resistance gets you into is only 20 years old.
>>583319608What does the other one get again? Because the B in UGB stands for "Busted".
>>583315101>>583315569>>583315663Okay yeah I get it now
>>583317418>>583315759>>583316072The last one should've been picrel, as a reference to them being switched to QF-4 drones.
>S rank everything>B rank every damn time when there's a fucking landship in the missionI know I'm rusty but this is preposterous. Sorry folks.
>>583319706The J has the UGBs, but I just dunno if it's worth running when I can use the F-15E if I wanna go ground oriented, plus it has HCAAs which aren't amazing but still
>>583317690>>583318696Thank you very much>it's everything an ace combat should beThat's all I was hoping for. I was hoping that 7 being a breakout hit and selling like hotcakes would make them stick with what worked and not try some weird mass-market appeal thing.>I was pleasantly surprised by the length of the campaign.How much mileage did/could you get out of it, in terms of replayability and extra completionism?>onlineMan, that's unfortunate. I had a lot of concerns when they first talked about it but I was hoping PA would pull through cause some of my best experiences with AC in recent times was playing MP with the buddies here.
>>583319674Strangereal has a hording disorder. They just can't get rid of stuff, maybe because older fighters cost less than a Toyota Prius to manufacture. See Super Tomcats serving into the 2030s and COFFIN F-117s in 2040.
Hi /aceg/, /@/ here, does everyone agree that they should add im@s skins, not just emblems, to the shop? Also death to Sotoa.
>>583308573how do you use the attack/defend pings
>>583320142The Strike Eagle gets SFFS which is arguably even better, but it's also a whole other plane.Also QAAMs and LAAMs may as well be the only a2a weapons that exist in the current meta, if you don't have those you're just straight up doomed to be eternally uncompetitive.
>>583320061LACM is your friend.
is the morgan paypig-only in 8 too
>>583307210RAILGUN WARNING
>>583320194>Man, that's unfortunate. I had a lot of concerns when they first talked about it but I was hoping PA would pull through cause some of my best experiences with AC in recent times was playing MP with the buddies here.The fucked up part is that this is just outright worse than Infinity right now (ignoring Inf's F2P aspect) in pretty much every respectable way. And I kinda get the feeling we're not going to be seeing much change on that front.
>>583320351Next battlepass :)>>583320506The Pixy version is, and that's the only one in right now.
>>583320351Yes.But they have to be 765 Pro. This is non-negotiable.
>>583316608That's the wrong plane.
Did anyone else laugh out loud when they launched Zero for the first time and set it to Borderless?
>>583320448Yea, I know, which is why I'm conflicted, but I'm also at least 60~ sorties away from unlocking the E in the first place but not having QAAMs on either F-15 feels shitty in an online with a balance as fucking retarded as this.
>>583320779Wrong country too.
>>583320351Soon, best girl. Soon.
>>583320826I had a sensible chuckle yeah
Anybody have a list of which planes can PSM?
Wait, is the only way to get these coins getting dupes in the supply crates? I have TWENTY coins after somehow getting two dupes. Is bamco fucking insane?
I sacrificed myself for the cause on the tunnel run.
>Enso wants to do away with borders for max $$$$I'm onto you you terrorists
https://x.com/Miyabinchosu/status/2106406111452778556
Honestly, if you've already got a workhorse, stick to that and grind for the F-15E or pray they improve the balancing.
>>583320990Because they are in the lootbox pool, the shop version is just a pity purchase if you really want. Also eventually you'll have enough items that every crate turns into coins from dupes.
>>583321159https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQLkXLzPn24
>>583321196>>583320827Woops.Or just go fuck it, get the J, and make that your ground pounding Eagle because that's all it's good for right now
>>583321196>balancingl o ll m a ojaps don't know how to operate live service games
i know it just came out but have they posted anything anywhere indicating when/what we might get in mp later on?
Cute
One of the Megafloats arms has a cute collection of Mongolian style yurts on a little field.
>>583321159I had something quite similar happen to me, got to 75% damage for the rest of the mission
>>583321196>>583321352That would be the F-16, though I'm leveling the Su-33 right now because I don't have the money to level the F-16 to 20 yet. Leveling planes feels really shitty so far and playing a plane you can't level anymore makes you feel like you're wasting time. >>583321245The price is still insane, especially given how many tickets you're actually getting. They're pretty sparse. Bamco really thought there were going to be tons of people playing this shit for years. They'll be lucky to maintain a couple thousand players, if that, long term at this rate.
>>583320194>How much mileage did/could you get out of it, in terms of replayability and extra completionism?I'm about to replay it on a harder difficulty because "Veteran" felt pretty easy for me, but I'm not really the type to grind every last possible thing out of these games so I can't really say beyond that.
>>583321376https://x.com/voidcallsreaper/status/2106555639254360392F-14A -RZG-SU-37 -Y13-SU-30SM -MHY-CFA-44 -PAS-ADF-11F -TRI-
>mvp in a fishbed feels goodpeople don't seem to like to shoot boats with their guns but project wingman ingrained that shit into me>>583321414drop a napalm bomb on themor nerve gasmaybe nerve gas then napalm so they're paralyzed in agony as they burn
>>583321703>SU-37 -Y13-Well there you're fucking answer as to why the Terminator wasn't in the base game.>ADF-11F -TRI-Interesting choice. I guess the Raven is technically Trigger's final canon plane now, kind like how the XFA-27 is for Phoenix.
>>583321807>paralyzing them before dropping napalm on themKinda defeats the purpose, no?
https://x.com/voidcallsreaper/status/2106555639254360392Next battlepass planes ig
>>583321807>people don't seem to like to shoot boats with their guns but project wingman ingrained that shit into meTriplebursting guns and gunpods melts even aircraft carriers in like 1.5 seconds of sustained fire its so much fun
>>583321989You're late.>>583321703
>The year is 2030>Wings of Theve anime OVA releases>Op showing sol reels of the cast>Shot of Rex from behind looking down in front of a mirror>Starts to take his helmet off and tease the face reveal>Super slow mo throws the helmet, shatters the mirror>WE WILL RIIISE ABOVE
>>583321703>ADF-11F -TRI-Tri?
>>583322098Trigga
>>583321196What is the F-15E good at in mp?
kate reminds me of someone, maybe another character or an actress. eva green?
>>583322173Scary
>>583313253>start a continental war, killing millions>to “kill” one guy in the internet for his incel cuck revenge fantasiesPeople say Belka or Torres, but Simon is much more fucked than those two
>>583322239something I find weird is how Kate and Tasha have blush on. Your in a navy ship in the middle of a war. Where can you buy makeup let alone time to put it on every sortie
Any idea what an IEWS is?
I am beyond fucking sick of watching air targets explode while I'm still 6,000+ meters away. I am beyond sick of being sniped from some cocksucker from halfway across the map while I'm in the middle of a dogfight. They need to nerf the fuck out of the tracking on long range missiles. This shit is so unfun.
how does online mode planes work?is it like the deluxe edition PIXY plane I got where I unlocked it online and then can use it on campaign mode?are there online planes only available in online mode?can I just buy DLC packs like in 7 to get the superplanes without touching online or do I have to play online mode to get every plane?I don't care about cosmetics like plane skins etc.
>>583322338>startit was a simulation. He hasn't done anything yet
>>583322398Just notch bro
>>583322398>make long range missiles not work at long range?
>>583322347They just look like that
>>583322398bro your radar?
>>583321703>F-14A -RZG-Why not the Falken>SU-37 -Y13-Expected>SU-30SM -MHY-I thought they would do the X-02S but AC7 does have enough emblems for 3 battle passes so it will probably be later >CFA-44 -PAS-Expected>ADF-11F -TRI-Already in the game so it was just when it will be playable, same with the YF-23
>>583322380Integrated Electronic Warfare SystemJams enemy missiles and helps friendly missiles (combo of ECM/ESM)
>console
>>583322098Trigun
>>583321562>Leveling planes feels really shitty so far and playing a plane you can't level anymore makes you feel like you're wasting time. I really wish it kept track of your XP so when you finally do scrounge up the zoll and blueprints it was applied. It also sucks that the XP progression up to level 5 or 10 is pretty quick, but the requirements ramp up super high to unlock 15 and 20.he economy in general is also pretty shit, rewards are like a third of what they should be to not make everything take forever.
>>583322431So you’re gonna let him do it?
>>583322542>long range missiles should have a 90% chance to mulch basically every air target from 10,000 meters away in an extremely low skill way that ruins any chance of half the lobby to actually fight the air targetes
>>583322347Tasha brought along extra makeup kits and her dad convinced the crew to let them keep it on board even after the war started. That fucker could sell water to a fish.
>>583322796we don't know if he'll do it or not. He just simulated it.That's like arresting Batman for killing the Justice League because he simulated killing them
>>583322620So it has both ESM and ECM huh?That being said, which is more disruptive? Dedicated ECM or IEWS?And same question for ESM and IEWS, since it looks like IEWS has both, was wondering if it’s weaker or just the same on the one dedicated to one function.
>>583322347God forbid a girl wanting to look cute for her austitic guitar playing crush.
This has to be rigged. They're giving me Morgan blueprints every single scramble to try and convince me to buy it. I'm at 5/5. Has to be rigged.
>>583322974sorry bwo its called trying to win a match not let some dipshit circlejerk for 5 minutes with his level 1 phantom
>The best tracks from AH are in multiplayer>They did the radar corridor thing from AH again with the visual radar hallways/sightlines>Reused the dogfight mode view for those dramatic partsIts kinda interesting to me how despite the fan base's opinion on the game PAces doesn't really seem too ashamed of it. Finding out about how the writer they hired actually wanted to do a strangereal story but they told him not too kinda makes me want to know the full story behind AH becoming a game beyond "call of duty audience" memes. i find it way more of a curiosity these days than something i hate.
>>583323208all japanese gacha game mechanics are rigged, it was proven with gran turismo 7. it's all pre-determined. it's like when you die and respawn and it says "aircraft under repair", it's not actually doing that, it's just on a timer. what it says and what it does are two different things, that's just how japanese games are
>>583322793Yea, that would go a long way to making the leveling not feel like shit. Even if you're playing warfare scrounging up zoll sucks ass. I'm not asking for super fast leveling, but they're balancing this for the long term which is retarded as fuck.
>>583321703>bespoke variants of existing planes just like infinityI hope these planes are statistically identical to their generic version, with the only differences being SPW choices and abilities. I also hope they'll let us put, say, Razgriz skin on the normal F-14 and vice versa as long as you own both.
>>583323208I think the way scramble works is that it tries to pull a aircraft from each ranking and the Morgan is in its own ranking
>>583323052Judging from the various CGs you get across playthroughs, and that one where he got a shit-eating grin staring at his PC, I’m more inclined to believe he’ll do it anyway because Yoko dead, despite the fact that GR spec ops’d both her and Dision
had some guy follow me around in a prowler and just ECM me while i QAAM'd the enemy team over and over in a fishbed that shit was cash. probably wasn't so cash for the ops though
>>583323446I hope they also have unique match end themes like in Infinity
>>583323208you're actually getting scrambles? i've gotten 1 (one) scramble this entire time
<<PIXY! TURN TO FACE ME YOU FAGGOT, STOP BEING A BORDER AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN!>>
>>583323462That's possible. I'll need to pay attention to what other blueprints drop in future.>>583323615That was an emblem thing and not a plane thing. But yeah that'd be nice.
>>583323208I’m fine with getting scramble for morgans since I wanna hit level 20 with it. 1 blueprint shaves off 1000 zolls for my upgrade plan
WAITI NEED THE A10C BLUEPRINT AND THE GENERAL ONES?BAAAAAAACOM THIS IS EXTREMELLY JEWISH
I have yet to get a lobby that has cleared the Chandelier. Realistically what attacker should you take?
>>5833238325 per day goyim time to pay up :)
>>583323907Same, normies literally don't go down the barrel
>>583323907Last Chanelier I did was a vic, I brought the Su-34 with UGBLs. While it can tear all objectives, it struggles with the barrel because you can't use the gun as it won't fire straight. Maybe ESM or TLS is the play there.
thoughts on arms? guidance optimization has been my favorite so far. do we know if 3-star parts are even in the game
>>583324383I haven’t tried on the parts menu but if you hit L1 it should pull up everything even if you don’t own the part.
>>583323351Kono made a series of retrospective tweets on AH a really long time ago (back when Infinity was still at its peak iirc) where he genuinely looks upon the development of AH quite fondly (and also that being the director in a nipponese company all about responsibility during AH's fallout was mentally ruinous which makes his view of AH as a whole quite bitter-sweet)I'm personally of the opinion that PA really liked what they were making but didn't have a pulse on where the fanbase lied. Franchise sales were on a downturn due to consecutive bad decisions, and someone somewhere (Bamco, PA or both, all equally likely) concluded that AH was a good idea.
>>583323673I get one special mission for every five normal ones on average. I don't know if I have good or bad or normal luck.Still no Arsenal Bird.
>>583324383tthe Pre order Smoke is 5 star.
so how's the multiplayer
>>583324383I noticed you're allowed to use two parts of the same type. I haven't tested but I wonder if they actually stack or if they do nothing.
>>583322193It's a pure ground pounder that can actually dogfight in a pinch, so whatever the PvE mode is called.
>>583324727That's very lucky.
This cracked me up, why the fuck there are so many italians into the fucking D.D. chat?Is it localized or it's the same for everyone?>t. shitalian
>>583324837Unbalanced, a grind measured in months at best, and quickly boring because the missions are short and unengaging.
>>583323907I run a UGB/Gunpod Phantom but at the best of times I still need at least one other competent player to clear it. A full salvo of missiles/bombs/gunfire will clear a full health cooling unit in a single pass, and the secondary units can all die with a slow gunfire pass in one go. It has enough DPS to trigger the underground phase after one barrel pass, and if you miss both underground coolers on the first pass you just pull a u-turn and take it out as you also make your way back to the gun barrel. Chandelier dies on the second barrel run.I need the lobby to at least help take out warheads and hopefully some of the pre barrel run coolers, but mostly because SAMs and AA chew me up as I'm doing slow wild weasel shit. Not to mention if I fuck up and crash.
>>583324842They stack on the stats screen, at least.
>>583324837Ass
>>583321079>Ray vanishing in the blaze of a noble sacrifice
>>583324727Insane luck
>>583324837It's infinity, but worse and with way less missions
>>583325284fuck off Amuro, the Gundam Newtypes section is over there!
>>583324516thanks, it worked on that screen. 2 stars is the highest besides the smoke>>583325301is it not on a timer? or does the "next program" every 30 minutes just mean nothing
damn this guy also got mind-raped by wings
>>583324837Fun if you dont take it seriously, although they need way more content if they want to keep a daily grind playerbase coming back. Unfortunately the new flight model in the game makes certain planes like the A-10 just ass to use because everyone gets to every target before you.
>>583324006>fly into the barrel with my F-15E>crash into the ceiing because the gun is pointed downwardsWhy do they still do this to attackers? it was shit in the ps2 games and it's shit now
>>583325697>"Omar Al-Mabkhout, member of the Sotoa Air Force 1str Special operations Wing, 11th Tactical squadron, the 100th "Lux Lunae" unit. I was hoping to learn more of the mysterious pilot called Wings from him. Unfortunately I had to cut the interview short as he started throwing objects in the room at me when he noticed the box of chicken wings I had brought for lunch."
This felt on the nose as fuck. Starfighter style Ace Combat next?
>the team with more long range a2a missiles wins againWOW WHO WOULD'VE FUCKING GUESSED
Electronic chads, what are the good planes and weapons? Does it feel worth using the ECM planes?
>>583326014>enemy team is two morgans and two foxhoundsSometimes you need gotta read the signs and just get your own score as high as possible.
I'm catching up on old threads and saw talk about doing some kind of plane grinding in MP to have it unlock in the SP? Is there a list of planes yet I can use as handy reference?
>>583323907I got it cleared. A10, pretty much solo'ed it but that's the only good thing about that piece of shit bathtub.
>>583321562>get a plane to level 20>your reward is not being able to use it Great game design.
has anyone tried running the game on a non-RT card to see how bad the performance actually is, or if it would even launch with one?sincerely, a turbopoorfag stuck on a 1060 6GB who doesn't want to be stuck replaying AC7 until the heat death of the universe
0 ( ZERO ) Emergency Sorties and Scrambles in the last 3 hours
>>583326183The growler has ECM and ESM separately but the EA-36 has IEWS which is a combined ECM and ESM. Not sure which is more desirable though. Either are better than using the poor Prowler though
>>583325670Next program just means the maps for normal modes will change. There are only three available at any one time. I don't know why.>>583326285The only transfer is the Morgan for buying the battle pass. If that counts.
>>583326379Yeah, that part sucks. In ACI research happened on any plane that needed it, not just the one you were using. Sucks that it's possible to waste it now.
>>583326481heard it doesn't run on non-rtx cards but you can do some engine.ini edit to disable the raytracing and it'll work. up to you if you wanna try it
>>583326491Technically wouldn't the EA-36 be better because you can take IEWS for both and then either A2A or A2G? Seems like that's more useful than two separate uses of ECM/ESM.
>>583326786Where is the .ini located?
Maybe others have different feelings, but Cope could have very easily been made annoying, but I think they pulled him off well. Couldn't help but feel some melancholy at the end, leaving that dog tag behind.
>>583323351Prologue was very AH coded.
>>583323351assault horizon legacy on 3DS was fun tbqhwydesu
>>583326930not sure exactly cuz I haven't fucked with it, i think it's either hidden by default or you have to put it there yourself. check nexus, there's a mod for enabling framegen that talks about it
>>583318764YOUNG ERUSEAN OFFICERS
>>583326786might buy it in the morning then if i still have the urge, hopefully steam's refund system will be generous if i can't get it to work
>>583326935Same, i liked his moments, it was something different.Also>yfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-jgS951vo
>>583315970>>583316229>Neom meets Gardens by the BayKinda kino actually
I find it interesting how Shadow22 and Moon11 handled Rex literally shooting down all their attempts to take him down very calmly.
>>583326935I thought the use of Cope was really sublime. Every AC has a narrator. This one just talks during missions sometimes. The fact that his existence effectively suckers you into falling for the Kate reveal (it totally worked on me at least) was really something.
>>583326935He's not awful, but I think the numbers thing was dumb, and was dropped halfway through the story so what's the point?
>he forgot 11
>>583327523180... 50...900...
>>583327384Cope was there so you'd believe Kate, and Kate was there so you wouldn't see Baxter. It was a masterful deception
>player so laggy the targeting reticule jiggles all other the placeWhat the fuck is this?
>>583314848
>>583327134Steam's refund system is very generous with cases where games simply don't function due to system or installation quirks, they got back to me within 5 minutes of a refund request after an EA game I bought had its installation process bricked by the Origin launcher.I think the system also automatically refunds purchases within two weeks with less than 2 hours of playtime, as well.
>>583314848For me, it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ieP0OlXC0MSeeing such a target rich environment, and getting the gang back togetherfuck
>>583326183You've got like no choices, it's the Prowler, Growler, and Barricader. Skipped the Prowler but the Growler's fun if you like missiles since it's maneuverable enough to dogfight well. ESM is pretty neat because leveling mechanics mean you can keep spamming it and it also buffs your reload speed so you can sling missiles to your heart's content. If your buddies are good you can dominate in Warfare as more shots connect with enemies. Also really nice for Scramble as any nuggets on your team get to use you as a crutch.Haven't leveled up enough to take both ESM and ECM, and I'm not about to take ECM by itself. I imagine it's even more dominant and a pain to fight againt, but honestly outside of Warfare you're often better off taking a Fighter or Multirole, and even then you could also rack up your score with a good SPW. The grind for the Growler isn't the worst but it's still relatively rough, IIRC it was 15 blueprints to unlock level 10 and it's 45 for level 15. You'll probably play a lot more Warfare in the Growler just for the slight credits boost because that's effectively 90k Zoll you need for the unlock, and I imagine it'll be like 60 blueprints for level 20.
>>583327134As long as your playtime is under 2 hours, refunds are instant
I always wanted to be one of the guys that gets launched from a carrier when they're 6km away from the enemy.
>>583326379Yea I have seriously no fucking clue what the thought process there is. Helldivers 2 has the same issue. Leveling weapons is so fucking tedious that once you max out a weapon it feels like a complete waste of time to continue using it. If leveling was faster this wouldn't be issue, but I bet it's like 120 sorties at least to max out a plane so as soon as you max out a plane you may as well immediately start using something else to get back on the grind.
>>583327858i always like watching the crew give me signals when i take off
>>583327905The thought process is MONEY
>>583321807cluster bombs are the best we can do
Holy fuck the A-10's gun feels weak online even against ground targets do you need like, 6 parts for it to work well its the only thing it has going for it and now its shit
>>583327810You should really get points for people getting kills while your ESM is active. >>583327943Yea, but how? There's no way to pay for faster level ups. It's just time.
>>583319549So it doesn't take over your entire drive with bullshit, obviously.
>>583327943Can you even buy EXP boosters or EXP "potions" with real life cashmoney?
>>583328039its actually disconcerting seeing people complain about the game not just filling up your entire ssd with mission replays without you knowing
>>583327810Thanks anon, I only have a few more games until I get the Growler so I guess I'll give that a try and see if i like it enough for the Barricader
>>583321397The online character models are too... smooth.
>>583318271>Ace of beers
>>583326950Is there a way to play AH on pc now? it got delisted from steam
>>583325901Is Brett still working?
>>583327810I just got ECM on the Growler and used it for a few warfare matches. If you just go into a furball of enemies with your teammates and his both ESM/ECM you and them are just unkillable for a decent chunk of time. Its kind of silly.
>>583322239>>583322347I'm starting to think it's a permanent sunburn because those idiots are doing constant airborne sorties with non-tinted visors.
>>583327958>parts>for gunsOh anon... it doesn't get better.
>>583328171...why would even want to?
>>583328145Anime got mixed into their appearances
>>583328171I got it years ago so I can still download and play it. I'm guessing the only way now is to find a cheap key in a reseller site or just pirate it.
>>583328335It's the only AC that I have not played>>583328367Damn
I'm holding off on PC AC8 solely because I'm waiting to see what modders do with it
>>583328171Assuming you mean legally, if you can find a physical copy with an unused cd key then you can add it to your account and it'll work fine. Keys will probably cost a shitton now though even if you can find them.
>>583328171you can still get a Steam key from G2A last I checked
>>583328403Don't even bother. It's Ace Combat in name only. It doesn't have a single aspect of all the actual AC games. You're better off playing HAWX.
>>583328016>>583328047>It's just time.NTA but that's the point. Keeping people on the treadmill.
>>583328601Yea but that's not gunna work long term. Normal people are going to get sick of this shit. I'm already sick of it.
>>583328601Making it so experience is wasted if you use the plane you like doesn't keep people on the treadmill though. All is does is make them unhappy and slightly more likely to stop playing.
>>583326902>>583327810 here. While the Barricader would be, the grind's definitely gotta be attrocious for it. Just to unlock the thing you've gotta be a Second Lieutenant (second from the highest rank), and after 129 sorties I'm only a First Sergeant (two tiers away from that). And since it's a higher tier plane the upgrade costs are going to be even worse.I did run into a Barricader who dual wielded IEWS and ESM, which is absolutely nuts.>>583328016You do, although I'm not sure how big a bonus it is. I should screen record a match and check the footage afterward. Can tell it definitely makes more of a difference in Wafare than Assault.>>583328121Hope you have fun buddy. I'm really hoping they'll add some game modes or events that make Electronics really rewarding. Right now I guess you could justify bringing one to the Arsenal Bird but Alicorn and Chandelier definitely need some big dick A2G weaponry.>>583328243How's it feel to fly that thing? I know a decently leveled plane feels far better in online than it does in campaign. How does it compare to the F-4 or F-18C?
>>583328476
>>583328681>>583328712>But the devs vision is wrong and isn't fun and isn't going to keep me playing and paying in the cash shop! Yes, but the devs are idiots and think as long as there is something 'to do' then it'll be done. This is classic japanese online game design and it works in their culture pretty well.
>>583322591Huh? Where is the ADF-11 in AC8?
>>583328718The grind is a lot easier when you just leave the game AFK on your other screen and watch a show instead. Playing isn't even needed to progress lol.
>>583328784The vision is wrong. I'm playing until I complete the pass, because I paid for it, and I will very likely quit playing afterwards. >>583328832In coop assault they can occasionally spawn as the mid mission enemy squad. More stuff that's already in the game but we get to pay for :)
>>583328832
fuck all you whinersmp is fun as fuck>but muh laam git gud, you can literally jink them every time just look at your fucking radarthe only real issue is the length of the matches and that’s rather trivial as they would need to put a fuckload more enemies into each levelI’m having fun just like I had fun in infinity. no fuel bullshit either
>>583328718>How's it feel to fly that thing? I know a decently leveled plane feels far better in online than it does in campaign. How does it compare to the F-4 or F-18C?I have mine modded up a lot but when I first unlocked it, it flew like a brick. Now its super fast and decently maneuverable. You cant expect to beat F-22s or Felons but I can reliably keep up with most dedicated ASF and even beat them if they haven't leveled their plane much. You are also just cheating if you get into a 1v1 with ESM and ECM and I notice many enemy pilots will just run away when they see you flip on both (huge mistake).
>>583328962>I LOVE eating dogshit!No one cares.
All we needed was the campaign with coop, and enemies scaling in number by 2-3x depending on how many players were in it.
>tried multiplayer>went after a Mig-31 in a F-18C>how the fuck is the flying container truck with overcharged engines turning like thatwhat bullshit am i experiencing and why do i feel compelled to just never play online mode if nigger shit like the AC7 rafael UFO 50speed turning shit is on a cow with wings?
>>583329279The MiG-31 is for some reason brokenly OP.
I know I should have saved it yesterday, but does anyone have the campaign aces cheat sheet that's been posted a few times?
>>583329115>I don’t like it so nobody can!archetypal autistic black and white thinking
>first match with my level 1 foxhound>laam with optical guidance 2>sit at 10km and right click the entire match>mvpmissile boat goat>>583329279owned
>>583328718>Right now I guess you could justify bringing one to the Arsenal Bird but Alicorn and Chandelier definitely need some big dick A2G weaponry.you can rack up a fuckton of points with EW planes on any of the emergency sorties and the main benefit of them is that you reload way faster, so you (and everyone else nearby you) can send out 3x the amount of missilessource: every time i bring the growler to emergency sorties, i get top 2 score every time on chandelier and alicorn (haven't gotten arsenal bird since getting it)
>>583329393faggot
>>583329336
>>583329519Thanks buddy.
>>583328962>no fuel bullshitUnderstated. It feels like I can actually reach the high tier planes I want in a week instead of several months.
>>583328962>>583329392Just because you have no standards doesn't mean nobody does, retard. LAAMs are overpowered as fuck and ruin assault and warfare is already the home of greasy no life losers with top tier planes. As anon said, just because you love the taste of dogshit doesn't make the problems with the multiplayer stop existing.
>>583329313I'm reading online and apparently it's cause the maneuverability upgrades overscale on it or something.
>>583329336You can check your data viewer to see the requirements whenever you want as well.
>make a very pretty jet>stick a big stick on the front and ruin itWhat's wrong with the French?
You think the Nosferatu might finally have drone SP weapon this time?
>>583330213>sells it to jeets>gets shot down
I knew my Latin and my autism would come in handy one day.Turns out every Lux Lunae squadron has a theme for their callsigns.My autism has been satiated, i hope that at least one single anon cares.
>>583330249The X-40 UAVs are shit so I hope not, that's a wasted SpW slot.
>>583330292I care anon, very neat info
Holy shit. Recapture of Theve II felt like such a fucking bitch to complete. I don't know if I was fucking up by going after the ground targets or what, but those LCACs just died so fast when enemy planes went after them. At the same time, Queen and Jackpot were fucking useless at clearing their Howitzer clusters unless I went into help them, and then Tanks and APCs just kept spawning constantly while the bombers were flying in to destroy the ground convoys. I only managed to save a single tank during part 2 and that was all that kept me from failing. I used up all my SP, all my flares, all my missiles, and had to machine gun the last 3 Shadows. And the fucking game still told me I had failed to kill 3 of those motherfuckers so I didn't get their ace data.
>>583330292I'm Nophono and I care.
>>583329951I just didn't wanna have to back out to that between every mission on the next campaign run.
Go outside you assholes.
>>583307674The real world answer is yes. Look at North Korea. Desertification IRL is a very complex issue. It's not just >We chopped down trees so there's no waterbut a mix of macroclimate changes mankind has no control over and microclimate effects like topsoil degradation, altering water courses, and reservoir usage. The Sahara becoming a desert or the Gobi expanding isn't because people were digging for minerals in those regions, for example, or because China or the Maghreb became a Victorian England industrial empire.
>>583329845skill. issue.I’m mogging metaslaves in my mig21 and having a great time
>>583330292>insect>bird>insect>insect>insect et. al.What's Luscinia's problem
>>583310815I just can't get over the fact that Tanya marries Erich and has 3 kids with him after emigrating to the fantasy USA.
>>583330487Flying an Su-57 is better than going outside
>>583323709There's a rhythm to it, you just got to get the timing right
>>583330607It almost bamboozled me as well, but turns out there's an obscure insect sub-family called Luscinia lmfao
>>583328761Why isn't the AC6 version available on torrent sites?
>ADF-11F -Trigger-So when did Trigger canonically fly the Raven?
>>583330857Because Volcano Water would get raped
>>583330702i figured it out, you cant be aggressive you just have to wait for pixy to finish fapping to V2 and joust you, its rather easy once afterwards
Haven't fully beaten it yet but I'm glad they learned their lesson from 7 and stopped with the unfun mission updates
>>583330850>>583330607>>583330292fixed it
>>583309234it can be two things
>>583330305Another reason to pray for AC8 modding
I hope you're not wasting all your General Blueprints on these shitter base planes, unless you want to spend the next 2 years with level capped -planes- that are the real meta.
>>583331351I'm looking foward to the difficulty mods
>>583331202A lot of missions in 8 are almost fucking relaxing compared to 7's.
>>583330305>x40 uavs are shitim happy somebody finally answered this question for mewasn't sure if i wanted to commit to grinding it out in campaign if the funnels weren't good
>>583330487I thought the no-life farmers in Battlefield were bad, but at least playtime in that doesn't directly confer stat bonuses.
>>583330305I expected them to be since the ones on thr raven were kinda shit too imo.
>>583331480I wish they'd try their hand at making Ace of Aces DLC again, it was so fucking fun.>>583331521The UAVs are shit but the EML still fucks anything you point it at.
>>583331474you can't stop me.
justice for my boy medvedev
>Cutscene says the ocean fortress is 6km across>Could swear it feels smaller than that>Measure it in free flight with a fly-by>Exactly 6kmI still have no idea why these games always make me think everything is smaller than it really is.
You WILL buy the X-40 anyway because the super armor part is behind it
>>583331634The 21 is probably the best investment in the game right now, cheap to max, it hangs just fine with the other planes when leveled and it's so low cost you'll be able to bring it to any ranking event.Tards who maxed out their Morgans are gonna be crying pretty soon when they realize how hard they fucked themselves.
the flying in Zero feels so fucking good, its only missing a little bit of inertia
>>583331679planes are big
No xfa-27, rip
>>583331781I'm really wondering what cost limitations will look like if they're implemented. I have mostly mid-tier stuff right now, but are there gunna be LOW low cost lobbies? They're not going to add more low cost planes into the game because normies aren't going to want to pay money for "bad" planes so what's here is probably what's going to be here. >>583331679You kinda forget how big planes are.
>>583332053>blueget this 343 ball fondler away from my ace combat
>>583332107I don't know who the fuck that is I pulled that image off of google.
>>583332053Why do they need low-cost lobbies? They can just promote cheap gameplay with daily & weekly challenges.
SO WE WILL RISE ABOVEIN A WORLD WHERE EVIL IS REPLACED BY LOVEAND WE WONT REGRET IT AND EVEN IF WE LOSE THIS FIGHTWE WILL EMERGE INTO THE LIGHT AGAINRISING UP AGAINAgainst the odds we’ll do what's right againWe have the wings to rise
>>583332164>do your single game at low cost>go back to raping F-4Es with your F-22
>>583331623What makes the UAVs shit?
>>583332212Let's be real, what really happens is Morgan players steal kills from everyone else
>>583319809That last mission was ballbusting and the only C rank I got through the whole gameShould I have just gone straight for the ballast tanks instead of trying to clear out the SAMs and deck guns and shit piece by piece? It seemed like it was respawning more stuff as it surfaced
>>583332387It spawns new defenses, but no, targeting the SAMS and secondary railguns is perfectly valid. Once you take them out hunting the ballast tanks and jammer become a lot easier.
>>583332310theyre basically just 4agm with extra steps, but they lock onto air targets too which is a complete waste since they will probably only hit like 5% of the time
>>583332387The S rank for that one is particularly fucked up because you have to wait for more drones to spawn to get the necessary points, you need to plan it out, then rush
>>583332387wow ac7 looks like shit now
Yeah, still need to finish the campaign, on 23 right now. Been playing a few missions then doing the dailies in MP. MP needs to add some variety to the assault and warfare, gets old pretty fast. Also need to boost the porc of scramble and emergency sortie. Also I'm pouring my leveling into the F/A-18C, not sure if this is a mistake. Finally, fuck the netcode, I'm sick of getting sniped by mig-31 but even more furious at getting killed by fucking f-16s who's missiles aren't showing up on radar!
>>583332604Nta but I replayed it on my xbox recently and it looks like actual ass because they never released a next gen update for it, it's like everything is set to the lowest setting possible
>>583332604You wish nigga. 7 is still the king.
>>583332604still looks amazing
>90 growler blueprints to unlock level 20Pain. I can't imagine how grindy the Barricader will be.
i’m getting a sick satisfaction out of bvring people in warfarefinding myself with two to three people permanently running me down after i killed them a few times brings a smile to my face
>>583332509Bummer. Sounds like a weapon that's only really useful if you have unlimited ammo and don't have to worry about it. They should really make UAV weapons multi-target weapons. As in, a single one can go after several targets. Be a whole lot more useful.
>>583332847>f-16s who's missiles aren't showing up on radar!i had that happen to me too, i was wondering why i exploded randomly. no missile warning either
>>583332460I brought the guided bombs just to try to destroy all the surface defenses and completely ran out before even coming close, that's after a checkpoint (because I didn't realize that one part had like a 10 second timer)>>583332604The textures are a little dated but all the weather effects are fucking amazing
will ac8 have the same skin modding scene like in ac7? for campaign only at least
>>583333173Yea the price gets pretty nutty, and then you end up buying more planes and then need to spend more zoll to upgrade those so you're not wasting experience flying max level planes while you're grinding zoll to upgrade the planes you actually want to fly. The cycle is rought
>decide to take the growler on a dogfight mission>ace difficulty enemies still spiral away from my ESM boosted, homing and speed boosted missiles>can't turn fight for shithow miserable
>another half hour goes by>another half hour reset without a scramble or emergency sortie
>>583333173you basically need 180k zollslmfao
what plane is this
>>583333417In 7 you could part-boost the standard missiles with improved homing, flight-time/distance, and damage to make them quasi-QAAMs. Was fun to watch them miss and keep circling a poor bastard.
fuck shark squadron, death to all separatists
>>583333467just play more scrambles, they drop plane blueprints:^)
>>583333364It's actually terrible. Thankfully the Growler's loadout encourages playing in Warfare, since there's plenty of air targets there and you'll get bigger support bonuses, which focuses more on Zoll than XP compared to Assault. But it's also Warfare so it's a coin toss on whether my team will be more cancer than theirs.>>583333467And this is just an upper mid tier. 30k to buy, 90k to go from 10 to 15, and then another 180k to max out puts you at over 330k to fully upgrade. Insane.
>messing around in free flight at faith park>fly into power lines thinking they would be intangible>instantly dielmao
>play assault>bring fighter to shoot down air>everyone else is also shooting down air>bring attacker to pound ground>everyone else is shooting the groundfuck sake
Just completed Ace Combat Zero The Belkan War.It was pretty kino. Pixy was giving me a hard time, but I managed to get him in the end.I liked the story a lot in this game and the missions were more fun than in 5 in my opinion.Now it's on to Ace Combat 6 Fires of LiberationWhat am I in for?
>>583334117Bringing air when everyone brings ground just means you clean up the entire mid-point air raid and get 10k+ points for free
>>583333827
>>583332604the ingame settings don't do it justice, there's a Steam guide out there on how to crank up the texture quality and even the weather effects via config file changes and it does improve it alot
>>583334180>What am I in for?The most broken gun in the series, bloodthirstiest wingman, highest enemy count missions (counteracted by an instant delete button), and two really impressive superweapon fights.
>>583334180A really fun way of depicting large scale battles that for some reason they never thought of doing again
>>583334613Honestly I think 7 and 8's approach to large scale battles is more effective. Allied Attack is just too powerful but the tedium of going back to rearm makes it hard to NOT use it. Then the current operation area suddenly has less enemies than the PS2 games and you've still got three or four charges left, which will completely replenish once you've killed the survivors. That said Weapons of Mass Destruction might be the best furball in the series, and Gracemeria Patrol is bonkers. Holy shit, you're telling me I shot down HOW many cruise missiles?
>>583334117>Sees your plane selection>Three other people go "hey that's a good idea"It's a curse
>>583335041I wasn't talking about allied attack (which is definitely overtuned though it's pretty great ludonarratively) but the whole multiple objectives thing.
<< ALPHA 1 : ALPHA SQUADRON STEP IT THE FUCK UP >>
>>583335204alpha 1 DAMNIT COME ON GUYS
Am I retarded or did they mean shortens lock on TIME and not distance? Cuz I don't see how you can extend the lock on range and then shorten the distance at the same time.
>>583335338People have speculated that range means the cone it can lock on in, so you don't have to be pointing right at them. Off bore stuff.
God I love losing fights because some faggot has a higher level plane and can thus turn 30% sharper than me
>>583335204it keeps happeningi'm in ace combat elo hell
is every sotoan 'tent' we blow up in the game actually a yurt?
>>583334180The coolest mechanic of allowing the player to start at different parts of the map depending on which objective they'd like to focus on first, with each singular objective being an acceptable win condition. Which allowed people to stick with aircraft and styles that they preferred. You like bombing ground targets? Well go do that.
>>583334180Insubordination
The mission 15 complaints are so funny. Half of it is pure ego. >wtf they're going faster than me >:(((
>coop warfare>pve ships entire match>win and get mvpGet fucked pvpshitters.
>>583337004The Ladon is a Mary Sue ass plane, to be fair. I guess it makes up for stuff like the Celaedon and Podarges being absolute jobber designs.
>>583337004i feel like you niggers completely ignore the part where they come out of nowhere and so people couldn't select the correct planes or sws for it>well i did it in the literal most garbage plane with a gun!cool, nobody cares.
>>583333827>families live on Newfield Island>Newfield saw the writing on the wall and seceded from the FCU and joined Sotoa so they didn't get turned into a parking lot>defending their families and home when the FCU comes back to retake the island>comes to your aid when you need it most I don't really blame them at all. The FCU would've been fucked if it didn't have a mute without any blood in his body to carry them. Plus they have a pretty cool emblem.
>>583318517You could say that Enso Order... has no Boundaries even.
>>583337173>im a stupid piece of shit nigger so it's the games fault
>>583337856>pick proper equipment based on what i know on replay>win handilyoh wow look at that, almost like it's a craft check :)>b-but i did it with literal garbagedon't care. you're like souls niggers who beat the game naked with bare hands to prove "every boss" doesn't require specific gear.
so uhhh what's a good plane for those 2 bombers? I'm grinding for f15 since I assume it's probably faster than my f16 or 18
>Gray's Island still seething at Wings despite us retaking Theve, taking out 2 Land Battleships, and disabling a Tornitrus SpearGod I hate these faggots
>>583337075i love sending laams at slow and low pve playersalso side note the long range lock on 2 for laams sucks it only adds 500km to the 10000km range, im thinking missile speed is better
The more I think about it, the more I suspect that the whole point of Cope haunting the mind of Rex is Rex actually doesn't have legendary ace pilot skills, those skills just straight up materialize inside of him as long as Cope is possessing him. It wasn't that Cope was a top notch pilot but so poor at combat that he got no kills, it was that in life he just didn't want to shoot down his own people but once he's a ghost inside Rex now Rex is in control of those skills and starts mopping the floor with them. At the end of the game Cope moves on and the ace pilot skills go with him, which is why Rex ends up back in the WSO seat.
Just beat AC8's campaign an hour ago. I will now assimilate Cope's personality and manner of speaking as my own in mood firmeare update 2.0 so "he is literally me."
have people got good planes yetis it safe for me to use the Morgan without coming off as a massive prick?
>>583338609The mig-21 is very good
>>583338026Anything that can shit out tons of AA missiles, the time when the bombers get vulnerable is scripted so speed is not that important.
>MP Frogfoot doesn't even get the decency of having like lots of arms part slots so it can bomb the shit out of targets>It's 4 body, 2 arms, 1 misc>Literally makes it a worse bomber than most MultirolesWhose wife did this thing fuck?
no one: ppl when you mission failed: oh noes mobius 1 downcope: can't have you joining me just yet bruh
hahaha just spent a match shooting some absolute loser in an F36 from across the map the whole game
LAAM is straight busted
>>583338975Giving low tier aircraft less parts slots to high tier ones is such a retarded design choice
I don't get why people harp on AC5 for its narrative and presentation but then praise AC8 when it honestly feels way weaker in that regard. First draft translation doesn't help either.
>>583339442i hated every squadmate in 5i liked every squadmate in 8
>Lost one LCAC at the end of Mission 5's first phase, so no ace spawnFucking Mirage
>>5833394425 and 8 have the same lows but i think 5 still beats 8 in highs. 8s m28 was cool but it didnt get me the same way the final assault on grunder did with both osean and yuke flights joining to help
There isn't a way to pre-select squad planes is there? I don't wanna select auto and they all default to Morgans, but I also don't wanna pick their planes every single time. I'd like Tasha to have her plane every time. I haven't decided on what fits Baxter and Coster yet.
>>583339442AC8 is basically the daughter of AC5 and AC6
>>583339728Yeah 28 seems cool on paper, but it's kinda weak other than Shadow 22 fight. Shooting down bombers gets boring after a while and it feels like enemy fighter AI is gimped so they don't target you as much as they should. You can just slowly fly behind groups of them to down them with no problems. Maybe it's different on ACE since I've only just beaten the game on Elite.Also call me a soulless golem or something but I really fucking hated this YOOO COSTER TURN UP THE MUSIC gimmick.
>>5833394428's gameplay > 5's gameplay,therefore 8's story > 5's story
>>583339812It saves the last one you picked for them when you go to select them. So you can just spam click through it.
>>583339945Hmm, better than I expected. Maybe a mod will skip their cheeky dialogue in the future.
>>583338325I disagree, Cope is just coping that you're the real deal while he wasn't
>MIGGERS>LAAMNIGGERS
>>583339442All the villains of 5 are complete ass compared to 8'sDespite the fact that the Shadows are almost faceless they're way better than Grabacr/Ofnir, and Hamilton will always be the worstEnso being the thing that kickstarts GR on their eventual path is more interesting than the Grey Men continuing their Belkan War vendetta, but that thread being in 7 might have affected my level of interest there>>583340014>skip their cheeky dialogueBut that's the best part>Baxter's politeness slipping whenever there's a rush>Tasha being cute>Coster's transformation from 2cool4u to being professional>Kate being cute
I love being unable to do shit because the cunt is 10 lightyears away and just looks at me, TLS :D
>>583310732I actually like that they didn't overdo the "you become a revered and feared plane god by the end of the game" shtick and instead have the Sotoans ramp up their fanaticism as the war goes on>the land battleship crew is willing to boil itself alive to keep on fighting>using actual hitlerjugend-tier pilots who would rather kill themselves than be captured>using tonitrus spears as vengeance weapons when they start seriously losing>refusal to search and rescue survivors of sinking ships>refusal to surrender until they are so bombed they have nothing left and nowhere to hide (I know some people think mission 25 drags on but I appreciate it from a storytelling perspective)>mobilizing everything that can still fly just because they hate one guy so much>all while believing in a promised land in the afterlife so they're not afraid to die doing all of those things
>>583340170you rang?
>>583339875>it feels like enemy fighter AI is gimpedBecause it is, you're going up against the Fighter Pilot equivalent of DeVry grads wearing nueral links to fly their jets at least until the Shadows show up
*flares*
>>583339442Because 5's story of "war bad" was grating due to the lack of subtlety
>Brings back wingman commands>Half my d-pad stops working
>>583340349I'd be fine with the lack of terror if they replaced it with hate. Not enough of these guys went down screaming venom at me
>>583340430*guns you down*
>>583340520Zero did "war bad" about as subtle as a brick to the head but it's way better about it
Instead of Rosa's kumbaya elevator, I would have preferred an Erusean redemption mission where you assist them in fixing Megalith so it could be used to take down the tonitrus spears.
Gun is so good, with mods it is straight up broken, outranging standard missiles, little squirt in the general direction of anything and it gets deleted
>>583339712I used the F-15J to race over, drop a few UGBs on the artillery positions, and then race back in time to catch the strikers and Hinds.
>>583338609Mig-31 is metashit. All EW craft are metashit. Morgan is metashit. Die.
>>583338550Cope is just doing Willard from his monologue at the beginning of Apocalypse Now.
>>583340632Zero did it better because it lets you do the crimes. 5 is just listening to characters bitch about war.
>>583340779Yeah I probably got too confident thinking I could knock out the long range sams before going back to the LCACsMy fault really, just annoyed it happened at the last moment
How did they clean up the Kessler Syndrome problem after 7?
>>583340193Am i the only one who completely forgot about hamilton until he randomly showed up in the last mission?
>>583341012Lasers and towing spacecraft
>>583341012They already had the tech for clearing orbital debris thanks to the aftermath of the Ulysses aftermath, and the ISEV makes for an ideal launching point for those missions.
>>583339442AC5 is way worse in its story and mission design and frankly the only reason why it's considered part of the holy trinity is because it released between 4 and 0 and on the same platform
>FuscusThis is hands down the most dogshit enemy in the history of this fucking seriesHere's an enemy you literally can't keep pace with even with a fully accel modded plane that goes 3000, enjoy!Guess I have to go back to previous missions and grind until I unlock the SU-57 or FA-22 and equip it with every single acceleration mod available in the tree just to do a single mission because that's fun game design! Oh also it gets five CIWS and you can't shoot it with missiles so try to hit it with your guns while taking damage from the AA guns and having to dodge 8 missiles at a time and if you maneuver to evade them the 5000kph bomber peels off and you lose another ship!
>>583341260*Blows both up with a Mirage*Be patient and shoot more AAM
>Shoot down one plane>It crashes into another and kills itIs there anything more satisfying
>>583341260Skill issue, I beat both of them on my first try with an F-14D
>>583341260The devs didn't design a mid-campaign hard gear/equipment check on you.Why would they do that?
>>583341371It doesn't fucking matter dude the plane takes NO fucking damageI'm using AAM6, QAAM AND standard missiles. It doesn't get through the CIWSThis is hands down the most garbage fucking fight of any AC game, ever
>>583341260I'm tired of hearing people whine about 15, you guys genuinely just suck at these games.
The leitmotif of Everflow is the best in the franchise, fight me.
>>583341479They absolutely did dude if I was flying a stock plane it would be physically fucking impossible to catch these fucking thingsAs is I can barely fucking catch them, in a turn, with a plane that hits 3000What the fuck am I supposed to have at this point in the campaign? Am I supposed to have the FA22 unlocked already? Please elaborate.
>Kate actually bags a Shadow in front of my eyes in mission 25>"dies" shortly afterMade the moment even more kino and after beating Ace Combat 7 so many times I'm honestly still shocked that your teammates actually do something
>>583341589Zero is better
What a wacky coincidence, Japanese players wake up and suddenly I'm seeing Fishbeds firing QAAMs backwards
>>583341626>>583341454
>>583341012The Arkbird was clearing Ulysses fragments and busted up satellites before the war in AC5 destroyed ithttps://acecombat.wiki.gg/wiki/Arkbird_Declaration:_Summit_2008With the Lighthouse it'd be even easier to get laser brooms into space
>>583341626They slow down multiple times just so you can take out their engines and make them actually slower. I killed them in a fucking Mirage.
>>583341589Unpopular opinion maybe but finally hearing this in all its glory after hearing hints of the leitmotif all game is something else.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af53mDmRx5o
has anyone gone back to older nvidia drivers?has it helped?
>>583340381Nigger behavior
>>583341626They slow down for extended periods of time.I won't call it a skill issue. Just be patient and stay behind them as close you can until they slow down, then lay into them with everything you have.Use your gun if the swarm drones and CIWS are fucking up your missiles. Just use your gun in general.Input overload is a thing, but do your best.You can do it!!!!!!
yeah nah I quitI'll just fucking grind out the endgame plane that goes fast enough to catch these things in a straight line, I'm done holding down the trigger until my wrist hurts to not get even remotely close to these niggertastic enemies
>>583338878why is it good exactly
>>583341873Clearly you are just shit at the game
>>583340938Not to mention it's people who signed up for the "kill people" job complaining about killing people after killing a shitton of people.Five has a lot of interesting stuff under the surface that they refuse to touch. Blaze and his team are off a black ops private death squad that answers only to the president and consistently kills their own countrymen as well as the enemy is a gold mine of an idea that's never touched upon
He's going to have the other issue of being out of position like when you use the Foxhound, tragic
>>583341041No, hell I didn't even realize who the guy screaming at me in the final mission was until a few hours after I beat 5
>>583341541i got the S rank on ace, the mission is dogshit and you inhale cocks like a vacuum in front of a dick launcher
>>583341831i never upgraded but i had a few crashes ,not that many, mostly after having the game open for a while
>>583341831I'm on these ones and haven't had a single crash>>583341873You are not ever going to catch up them when they are flying with their wigs folded, not with a mig-31 or endgame jet with all the speed upgrades, you have to wait until they unfold their wings and then you destroy their enginesRetard
>>5833412148 hits a lot of similar story beats that 5 does and does it way better. I actually felt something when everyone around the world was singing for Rex while I could only roll my eyes at the Song of Peace in Five
>>583341260Oh they're absolutely dogshit but they have some clear weaknesses, mainly they travel in large straight lines, if you approach perpendicular to them you can catch up pretty quick
Is mission 15 the great filter of AC8 like Long Day?
>>583341831it just works on my machine ;)
any of those worth buying?
I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS I LOVE LAAMS
>>583342294Second SFFS one if you have the strike eagle
>>583342354LAAM of God
>>583342354https://youtu.be/hk0s-l7GDT0
15 is fucking free, use your fucking wingmen, they're pretty decent are damaging single targets at least.Having the Ace be so out of the way and force you on a detour and catch up is pretty shitty tho, especially if you didn't kill one before the first bombing run since you only have one pass left before failure
Do missiles flying faster offset any benefit from improved guidance?
I genuinely hope this franchise diesI mean that from the bottom of my heart, I hope this fucking franchise dies with this joke of a gameIt should have ended with AC7
man, zero's ace difficulty doesnt mess around
Someone's mad
>>583307562Decades later with the 8th main title in the series and it still happens. Guess its just a gameplay feature now.
>>583341831I've updated my drivers the day before release, I barely cleared minimal specs and the game worked on medium settings with 0 crashes throughout and barely any dips below 60 fps even when playing for like 6 hours, I think all of the problems people have are hardware issues
>sees a sheep get slaughtered once>nukes several continents
Hope we get PW2 in the 5-6 years between 8 and 9
>>583342887wife
>>583342904FAN can't even release an art book after 6 years
>>583343054Because they are hard at work on PW2 of course!
>>583341873They slow down while turning, if you don't lose track of them in the clouds and can keep up you can comfortably unload for a while with machine guns (take auto strafing if you've unlocked it) and take 4AAMs, have your wingmen cover you, they actually keep up and sometimes shoot at the guy too. Abuse checkpoints to replenish ammoI've done it in a Mirage and it was motherfucker, but it's doable
>>583307562yeah idk why they don't just have a fleet of these things they'd win in a day
15 missions in and not a single one has been even remotely enjoyableThis is genuinely the worst entry in the series and it's not even closeUnfortunately I know this game will make enough money to justify it's sad existence but I really hope it's at least a decade gap for the inevitable AC9 which I'll wait to pirate
>>583342887Who has that line about dominos falling seeming like a miracle?
>>583342904>>583343085Buddy, I...
>>583342887Haha she needs help to take a shit.
>>583343216Tasha can have the EA-18G, as a treat
Even if this franchise did die you'd still be seething for longer than its lifespanMay you keep seething for as long as you live
Beat mission 15 with the f18 with 6aamRemember to use your machine gun bros
>>583343216The world may not have my back, but I know Jenkins has my back
>>583343302>tfw you will never be a sotoan handmaid who washes tewy every day
>>583341260>>583341873The mission is less a speed check, and more a DPS check. Bring 4AAMs plus preferably a second short/mid range A2A SpW, and have your guns firing whenever you're in range. During the later passes on your fleet they slow down massively before attacking; if you don't overshoot that's a prime opportunity to land multiple missile hits.>>583342452I got really lucky and just happened to spawn the enemy ace when we were near his spawn position, but that was on the second attempt at getting the ace.Also, Fuscus 1 sorta sounds like Vergil.
The campaign is goated, but AC online is pure ass.>no balanced matchmaking>pay-to-win daddy's boys can just steal kills>will make pvp unfun>nothing new since AC infinity>pilot customization is worthless because who the fuck socializes in this game>costumes are a joke, oh yay t-shirt identical to the default white one but it's brown>plane progression have player rank requirements so even if you have the money you can't buy them, but you're still matched with players of higher levelWhen they said the game would have coop I was hoping it would be actual coop. Not the same shit we've had for thirteen years.
i just realised you can buy plans directly from the uncap menu instead of going to the shop
>>583343682what
>mfw i finished the campaignBRAVO KONO its KINOmission 15 and 16 are fucking bullshit thoughalso the last shadows are ass. they literally cannot be missile'd so i had to use guns. cripple woman is easierD.D. is fucking mr beast LMAOalso i still dont get why these mongolians attacked the EU
>>583343646Yea why did they give planes cost then proceed to do nothing with it
Will 9 go straight to Electrosphere or will they have one more game between 8 and Electrosphere era Strangereal?
>>583343836You can hit 22's squad with missiles but not 22 himself
>>583343836>also i still dont get why these mongolians attacked the EUIndustrializing fucked up their own land so they're looking for new grazing pastures, and they can only go west because if they go east Yuktobania will hand them their LARPing asses again.
>>583341861It does feel like a lot of boss gimmicks in this game get hard countered by guns, with the culmination of that being Shadow 22 and his infinite flares.>>583343646For all the problems that 7's MP had, at least it didn't have massive grinding or gaps in player performance. Lv2/Lv3 parts were busted, but in a worst case scenario you could just do one MP match then grind campaign for MRP. Although MP MRP gain was ridiculous, so a nugget spending a few matches being a flying pinata in MP was going to earn MRP faster than the players grinding Fleet Destruction in Free Mission.I can see 8's PvP being worse than Infinity's PvP since PSM chaining is still a thing, on top of the usual issues of QAAM/SASM/LAAM spam.
>>583343835shortcuts directly to the specific plan you need, i'm probably retarded but i never noticed.
>4AAM somehow even worse in 8 online than 7Theyre so fucking slow most targets either die or wander off before they can connect. Worthless in PvP.
>>583343836Sotoa's lands have been utterly fucked by a combination of climate change and unrestrained industrialisation in order to avoid getting run the fuck over by Yuktobania. The ecosystem was already fairly fragile as it was, necessitating a nomadic culture for much of the country.What do nomads do when their land can no longer support their way of life? They move on and find somewhere else to hang out while it recovers.Unfortunately, Usea was the nearest non-superpower with viable land.
>>583343904untruei killed 22 with a qaam (after i gunned 28)
>>583343836>also i still dont get why these mongolians attacked the EUTheir country turned to desert to they decided to do an early middle-ages style migration of their people fueled by superweapons which as a setup is cool as fuck
>>583343896Next is obviously 4,5,0 remakes in UE5 with the pretty clouds. Surely the have the money to make them now.
>>583344052Skill issue on my part then, I was never able to land a missile on him
>>583342294Yes, they are the best in slot for now it seems
>>583343836>also i still dont get why these mongolians attacked the EUsotoa's land used to be green but now it's a desert hellhole (you can see it in the epilogue when cope talks to ray for the last tiime)they were resorting to building giant artificial islands (they have a nicer megafloat than fatsia with lots of green fields for their capital)they are backwards meathead dipshits and decided gunning for the FCU for territory and slaves would be easier than using futuretech to rehabilitate their land
>>583344086If there's one game they'll remake it's obviously 3, considering the setup made in 7 and especially 8 and the fact that 3 never got a proper western release
>>583344096Regular ones will hit him like once in a hundred shots. QAAMs hit everything, SASMs rape him unless he decides to use his reality warping powers to just stop them from exploding. I guess SAAMs could also be good?
i beat the game on Elite and i sure aint dont want to play some of these missions on ACE difficulty and getting an S rank. can i unlock superplanes in the campaign?
>>583343980A2A PvE is unfortunately all about LAAM and HVAA. I reckon 4AAMs and 6AAMs might become useful if you stack homing, lock range, and missile speed, but that's a lot of part slots to be almost as good as LAAM/HVAA out of the box.I don't understand why 2AAM is a thing. Just give the F-16C 4AAMs, then give the Growler some other A2A option.>>583344007I thought the land battleships were silly, but they actually make a lot of cultural sense for a nation of nomadic tribespeople that sudden got handed ridiculous tech from Enso.
>>583344201Check your aircraft tree right now, past the endgame planes
>>583344201You've already unlocked a super plane just by beating the campaign and you should have Morgan unlocked if you preordered.
>>583342904
>>583344192i used qaams on him and didnt hit him once. on elite btw
>>583344201You get the disabled lady's plane and the prototypes their childrens' used (Fa-36)
>>583344201Yes but morgan unironically makes most missions a cakewalk and is paywalled.X40 and game are better at taking cheating bosses tho
>>583344201The superplanes are unlocked on the tech tree after completion at any difficulty. You will need to grind them out.
How's the FA-36? I bankrupted myself by buying the X-40 and it's eml
apologize
>>583344245but i preordered and i didnt get a morgan?
what does the "Cost" in multiplayer represent for my loadout?
>>583344253W-what
>>583344201The real difficult missions in ACE are only 2 to be honest. I just ifnished it again, while doing all the aces as well
>>583344380you only get it in SP after beating the campaign
>>583344306I tried Morgan once in campaign and it felt a bit lacking versus a QAAM/LACM Felon. Even with PLSL removed from the game, the Su-57 still feels like more of a superplane than the actual supers thanks to its SpW loadout.
>>583344362It has SASMs and SOD so it's good.. Flies weirdly brick-ish. Is ugly as fuck.
>>583344409How much you're worth if you get shot down in Warfare
>>583344362Extremly good. SASM and SOD are a killer combo and it can carry you in basically all missions, excluding Wings of Wax. If you boost the normal MSL as well it OHK everything bar of MiG-31 and F-15E
God the legacy Bug really does handle like a fucking houseboat. I thought there was no way it would be that bad. I'm still having fun using it. Also they did the Phantom dirty by only giving it two body slots?
>>583344380You have to access Online mode once and claim the Morgan from the Ace Pass or whatever, then clear campaign.>>583344497For SOD, do you lock onto the first target in a line, or the last one, to maximise its effect?
>>583344485that's quite coolso the higher the cost the hotter you are to kill off?
>>583344458>>583344306The true and only morgan tech is not using it yourself, but giving it to your teammates if you want to trivialize the entirety of sotoa.In the moment you press SP.WPN the whole maps explodes and gets lasered
>>583344201I have beaten and S ranked the ace campaign and I didnt feel much of a spike in difficulty. You have good planes, knowledge of the missions from the previous run, guns only do chip damage, and it still takes multiple missiles to kill you. The only thing that killed me in the whole campaign was the ground.
>>583344176If they remake 3. Will they do anime again or will it be 3D cutscenes?
>>583316848Cause the FCU are an easy target, given how they got their teeth kicked in by Eruseans twice in a row and nearly collapsed to an internal coup and had to be saved by mercs
Morgan with drop tank
owned
>>583344589yeIf you're in a low tier plane and die it doesn't hurt your team as bad
So let me get this straight - if you didn't pay for the deluxe edition, you can't get the Morgan? They straight up paywalled an entire plane?
>>583344458it's not good at taking aces but godlike on anihilation.One nuke killed both flying podarges on 25
>>583344837It's locked behind the payed battlepass
>>583341260It can be done with the starter F-18C on Ace, it's absolutely not a gear check.
>>583344837it's locked behind the battle pass so you can get it separately. delux just gives you a pass token
>>583344837IIRC it'll be available for everyone (at cost) after the season ends
>>583344680I'd prefer if they preserved 3 as a relic of its time, but I think they'd 3d-ify it. It's the most obvious route because of the joint venture with ILCA and the fact that all the mainline games post-Zero have settled into 3DCG cinematics.3 and the Holy Trinity got to experiment with storytelling devices 'cause they were still figuring out what they wanted Ace Combat to be, but I don't know if they have that kind of freedom anymore.
>>583326481I know it can run at around 30fp on a 1660, more if everything is turned to low and FSR Ultra Performance. There's videos of it. Not sure if it would run on a 1060 though, you're better off saving that money for a new GPU.
>>583344891>>583344929>>583344950so if you want a plane for the CAMPAIGN missions you have to PLAY PVP and PAY MORE MONEY to unlock it?
>>583344984Yes, but it's the very first unlock in the battlepass so you don't actually have to play mp to get it
>>583344984No, you get it from buying the battlepass, the rest of it is just online stuff emblems skins and shit
>>583344606>>583344845I'll give it another go. Maybe M21 wasn't the best mission to test the Morgan. Also I'm guessing I should just go all-in on MPBM and ignore the TLS/ECM?>>583344724Plus for all their bluster, the Sotoans were smart enough to avoid touching North Point. At this point I'm pretty sure most military maps just say>here be ribbonsover where North Point is supposed to be.
>>583344984Depends on what currency they ask you to useThere's a reason you can access the store from the main menu, blue currency is entirely bought
>>583344578First one in a lineAlso with your approach you can decide the line, it rapes when you master it
anyone else seen this shit in the first mission on ace? all of my wingmen are here and i've not even had the chance to change planes yet
>>583345153see what
>>583345225the zalgo pixy embedded in the ocean
>>583344837They did the same thing in AC7 with the Raven which was slightly more egregious considering they expected you to cough up $5 for a jet that you fight in the main campaign (or buy the $25 pass, or get the deluxe which came with the pass)
>>583345153What in the god damn
>>583345120Noted, thanks buddy. I think I may focus on the F/A-18E when I get the right rank in Online.>>583345153First two missions force you to use the F/A-18C in campaign runs, even on NG+. You can only select aircraft in Free Mission if you specifically specific 'use obtained aircraft'. Note that that option doesn't get you out of using a different plane for M14.
>>583345153>>583345225>>583345252>>583345272better picture of whatever the fuck this is
>>583345243Not that it matters for single player, but the Raven was also a P2W option for campaign. One of my friends used the Raven plus novice controls for his one run of the campaign, then got filtered from NG+ when he tried to fly something else.
>>583345425Demons breaking out of the stealth dimension
>>583320369Up and down on the D-Pad
>>583345425Huh, looks like the game spawned an entire multiplayer team into your Mission 1.
>>583345425Looks like an entire Scramble flight followed you to singleplayerImagine if this was the kind of thing that got people to mod in a coop campaign
>>583324881They are Emmerians
>playing the pc port of ac0i don't remember SAAMs being this terrible desuwere they this bad in 4 and 5 too?
So what, the singleplayer meta is just to play coop with other sweaty people?
>>583345635First run: Beeline for one of the Super Hornets or Rafale.Second run and you bought Deluxe Edition or the Ace Pass: Enter Online once, claim the Morgan, then exit that shit without actually playing it.
Almost finished AC8, at mission 28, I have to say, compared to Mihaly, who was a respected rival in my time as trigger, and I'm glad Shilage is an independent state now.Shadow 22 and Luna 11 make me want to gas every prairie animal under the sun.
Mihaly was an actually well written character which seems to be a lost art
>>583345153>>583345425The finest Japanese spaghetti code
>>583324881Emmeria is Italy (mixed with the northern US and Canada) anon. Did you not play AC6?
>yuktobania just ALLOWED the sotoans to launch 2 satellite weapons and did nothing when they started building gigantic land battleships after a war with themWhat the fuck is their problem
>>583345508>>583345525>>583345537>>583346194looks like i'll have them accompany me on every missionsomewhat terrifying, in a shitty creepypasta way
>>583346369Are they roughly in the same spot every time? Might mean something interesting for how the game handles spawns per map
>>583346345The Sotoan Yuktobanian war happened one year before AC5, so they were kinda busy after that.
>>583345153>>583345425Co-op campaign>>583345243Weird as it may sound, they genuinely didn't finish the playable Raven in time for 7's release
is scramble also on the timer like emergency sortie? do i just have to wait it out?
>>583346062>>583346007Mihaly's writing was decent, but the design of his boss fights was shit because his scripted invincibility was blatantly obvious if you were any good at dogfighting. Shadow 22 at least has the decency to actual die on spawn if you nail his ass with a railgun.>>583346369What happens if you close out of AC8 then restart the application?
>>583346345They built the Alicorn for Erusea, The Yukes are superweapon accelerationists
>>583346504It's an RNG thing, yeah
This game runs shockingly well on a PS5 even with the quality preset. I was not familiar with your game, Snoy, the PS Quintuple Ballin' is a better console than I thought it was. You can still gargle my balls for the physical media shit, paid online, and most importantly leaving the PS Vita out to die of exposure like a baby you didn't want.
>>583346483they're at a different grid co-ordinate completely>>583346510and abandon my wingmen? no chance
>>583346695whoops meant for >>583346443
>>583346517I was thinking about this earlier: How many superweapons did Erusea actually design themselves?>Stonehenge was an international collaboration spearheaded by the FCU>Megalith is a knock off of North Point's Fortress Intolerance>Arsenal Birds were stolen from Osea>Alicorn was bought from the Yukes>Ravens were Grunder techOriginal Wyvern I guess is 100% Erusean, but the Strike Wyvern is more Grunder tech, and its pilot wasn't Erusean either.
>>583345425Superior japanese coding skills folded 10000 times
>>583344845>not good at killing acesI fought Shadow22 with it and he folded before the 10 second mark. The blast of the MPBM is more than enough to fuck him over royally, catching other shadows in the blast too, not to mention he got beamed by lasers before he can go sicko mode.
>>583347158That is a lot of folded planes, to be fair
>>583346510>scripted invincibilityIt's because he's actually just better than you and can take damage on non-critical parts of his plane
>>583347285It's funny how the final part of the aircraft tree in 8 is basically just that non-critical part
>>583347336What exactly does that part do anyway?
Not enough belkan jewery 8/10
>>583347384makes you gigatanky. makes getting the no-damage medal kinda trivial because you take 0 damage until a big threshold
I still don't understand how the small and impoverished nations always just pull superweapons and endless armies out of their ass and meanwhile the freedom loving democratic nations that span an entire continent apparently have no resources to wage any sort of war
>>583347724Erusea did it through >belka, sotoa just put their entire national budget into superweapons development.
now this is ace combat
>>583347830Well Belka is the proto example, maybe I SPEEDLISTENED to Zero but I swore they said that Belka was SO broke and impoverished they let Ustio secede so they wouldn't have to keep feeding/supporting them because they couldn't even afford to keep all of their countrythen a few years later they turn around and take all of Ustio back and start dogdicking the rest of the continent until Cipher goes "Nah dude" also apparently the Osean coalition was so devoid of military power they felt the need to hire/conscript multiple mercenaries just to bolster their forces
>>583347724Sotoa was a test bed for Insomnia Order and General Resource weapon projects. So they got all the fancy toys to play with while Furthering corporate goals of ending National Governments so Electrosphere could be made a reality.
i don't remember EC3 much, wasn't neucom the more advanced corpo while GR still used semi realistic shit?
>>583347980No I don't think you speed listened through zero. It does sound ridiculous at a glance but countries with an extremely galvanized population and an insane enough military command can run on fumes for far longer than it seems, even in real life. Also every Belkan engineer and scientist is like a 4000 IQ technowizard.
>>583347724Universal healthcare ate into their killsat budgetRealistically Usea is fucking broke after taking most of the damage from Ulysses and the multiple wars forcing them to rebuild over and over. The refugees who left for other countries probably never returned. Would you rather live in Osea or the continent that gets blown up at least once a decade?
>>583347724>>583347830Plus it seems like Enso was giving more backing to Sotoa over the FCU to give Sotoa enough confidence to attempt something as ridiculous as invading another continent.>>583347980Pre-Zero Belka went broke BECAUSE they spent everything on superweapons trying to keep up with Cold War era Osea and Yuktobania. The Belkan War was Belka finally using all their toys until the mercs Ustio hired in desparation turned the tide. Plus it sounds like Osea waited until getting involved to trick the Belkans into expending too much energy early on.
>>583348259>the continent that gets blown up at least once a decadeokay but they have a Cute and Funny Princess ToT
>>583348259>Emmeria was insanely wealthy>War happens>They win the war>Are now even wealthierI know where I'd want to live.
>>583348183General Resource is the company that snatched up Grunder, enso and other companies we've seen over the years. Based on 8, nations are still using normal planes less than ten years before 3 so we can infer two things1.production runs for normal aircraft were probably still active or being discontinued as of 20402.most of general resource's aircraft were probably just those normal planes upgraded to COFFIN and ENSI standardsNeucom was a newcomer so they had to produce everything new, all of their aircraft were new designs built to modern standards. New designs from GR are also more futuristic similarly
Osea tricked Belka into wasting money looking for resources that weren't there, and they paid the price for it
>>583348332The Princess now lives in a hippie commune that squats around the Space Elevator, she betrayed her people>t. proud Erusian nationalist
>>583348568IIRC, Night Raven is developed only two years after AC8 ends. Dision dies only a few months after 8. And that's ignoring that 3 is a simulation so things can still change.>>583348332>>583348643BTW, who was La Chanteuse in M16? I thought it was an older Cosette until you actually hear the princess in M19 and she sounds the same as before.
>>583348348Yeah but your neighbors are vampires who think a children's choir is appropriate final boss music
>>583348797unironically though she was an AI
>>583348836It's basically a funeral song for a dead nationOnly the children are left to carry on
Wasn't the big screen in Online supposed to play ongoing matches or something
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>>583348797That's what I mean, You have the Aurora, the Night Raven, but thousands of F-15Es. It's a lot easier and cheaper to just retool your existing F-15 production line to switch the glass cockpit for a camera and brain scanner than develop a new aircraft design entirely.
WE FUCKING WONAlso i now understand why zero-lovers are so fucking aggressive in here. I would be too
>>583349149How the fuck did AH outrank half the entries on this list?
is X worth emulating
>>583349056People just love flying a Gripen on the Shilage castle map. Just keeps on happening.
>>583349265Game critics aren't known for their taste>>583349319Absolutely, it's a great game stuck on the PSP
>>583349265It was the start of the journoscum giving everything they barely played an 8/10 era
>>583349319>>583349408Every idiot being like please do a remaster of a game I've already played so it can have better graphics! instead of asking for a remake of X so it can be free from PSP hell. Hate Ace Combat fans.
>DUUUUUDE I am LE NOMADShut the fuck up bitch
>>583349468All the PS2 games combined into one, plus XOne BILLION dollars made overnight
>>583349319X, definitely yes.X2/JA, maybe worth one playthrough to understand the memes, but the actual game is kinda ass. Somehow the outsourcing team that made X completely misunderstood what they got right the first time, and botched the game the second time.
>>583349149>trusting metacritic scoresalso what brownspeak language is that
Is there no way to check sp weapons before i purchase an aircraft in online?
>>583349468chill nigga it's being released bundled with Ace Combat 12
>>583349319It's a really solid entry, just one tier below the PS2 games
>DD isn't a bad guyI didn't expect that.
>>583349586campaign tree lmao
>>583348797>>583348797Pretty sure that's the oldest of Mihaly's granddaughter. Different VA from 7 though, so that's a shame.
>>583349149I can only imagine that Zero was only rating a 75 because it was a PS2 exclusive in fucking 2006, and essentially a pallet swap of 5 on top of that.
>some nigga alt f4'd as soon as he saw 3 adfx on my team
>>583349584>Dark Souls 2 at the toptrvthnvke
when you actually had a full team and formed up in the exact same way in mission 28 as DD's photoshopped squadron from earlier in the game I sealclapped
>>583348836>who think a children's choir is appropriate final boss music>Implying this isn't the best final boss theme in the seriesNothing gets close to the aura of tragedy surrounding Chandelier. A weapon of dead men lashing out in one final vicious strike against its enemy, while its children sing on the wind.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_5y-DPusrM
Enso has to be setup for the ace combat 3 universe right? Electrosphere bros...
>>583349149>Zero and X below AHPure blasphemy>AC04 #1At least this part is correct.
>>583349704Yeah. Sequels/Games came out much faster back then and around that time Project Aces was pushing a game out every 2-3 years. Journalists were much more tough on sequels not innovating enough with their core gameplay.
>>583349776It's really nice hearing it again in OnlineI just wish Stauros guy sounded as dead inside as he did in 6
>>583348568There is always the Forneus and its ilk to think about.I wonder if (big emphasis on the word 'if') they ever get around to adding some of X's original planes in one battle pass or another that the suspiciously Neucom-shaped laminar flow planes will get some kind of backstory outside of 'it's a mystery'
>>583349776another crime belka has to answer for
>>583349586>>583349696Yeah, I just load into campaign to remind myself of the SpW options.>>583349653It's insane that some MBA/marketing type gets sent to space with about a weeks' prep time. At least Baxter was actually training to become an astronaut before the war broke out.
>>583349357Which is funny because I don't think I've seen anyone fly that one. Same with the Typhoon.People tried to make the Mirage work in the first two days of early launch but that also got pushed aside.This meta is so fucking boring...
I hope the AC8 dlc isn't YET ANOTHER giant superweapon that could KILL US ALL!!!! I'd like something closer to an experimental aircraft squadron as dlc baddies, and I love Torres.
>>583349798Have you not finished the campaign yet, because like yeah duh they straight up get folded in to General Resource.
>>583349973All I ask for is a big tunnel
>>5833498264 is not the best, not even top 3. The best will always be 5.
>>583349957That's the power of being BASED . I really expected the twist to be obvious and I'm pleasantly surprised.
>>583349973I don't care what it is so long as it isn't released one mission at a time that you have to pay for individually. As much as I liked 7's DLC the way they sold them left a bad taste for me.
>>583350051This but in reverse
>>583349776AGES PASSSNOW FALLSALL THE EARTH SLEEPS BENEATHA BLANKET OF WHITEDARKNESS CLOUDS THE SKYSNOW FALLS WITHOUT ENDRECALLING OUR PASTWE MARCH ONTIMES OF TURMOIL SHALL PASSDAWN FILLS OUR HEARTS WITH LIGHTOUR HOPES RISE WITH THE BRILLIANTSUN RISES WITH FAITH IN TOMORROWWE MARCH ON
>>583350015>you not finished the campaign yetNo lol I'm playing mission 30 now, I guess I can still pick up shit decently!
finally, the ultra rare scramble proc
>>583349957>>583349696What the fuck guess I will just take screenshots of the campaign tree
>>583350051T R V T H N V K E
>>583350204>«ALL STRIGON TEAM MEMBERS ASSEMBLE FOR TAKE OFF. FOR THE GLORY OF OUR COUNTRY»
>"hmmm i can see that 6 out of the other planes are ground attackers and i have brought a fighter">"should i clear the air units so we can achieve a S rank?">"no, i'll just dump standard missiles into the enemy ground forces :)"fighters need to do half damage to ground units
>>583350581they do
>>583350581I thought fighters already had nerfed damage against ground targets? Or are ground targets just that tanky in Online?
>>583350051>Best atmosphere/tone>Best plot>Best superweapon as a focal point of the plot (Stonehenge)>Best rival ace>Best feeling of becoming a legendary ace that boosts the moral of the troops on the ground below you as you fly by>At least top 3 for musicAC04 a best. AC5 beats it for mission count and wingmen characterizations, it's overall plot is just barely behind 04 for me but it's still excellent.
>>583333173sadly I don't think the growler is worth the general blueprints. seems the barricader with IEWS is just better in everyway. I also think it can PSM. I'm fine with the grind but gold blueprints which are gonna be mandatory for higher planes are only 5 a day or locked in the battle pass. so I have this autism that I have to save them all because they're basically limited
uugh, I'll bake. Thread is so fast
>>583350978PSMs are useless in online
>EMERGENCY SORTIE>it's chandelier againmight as well just leave, i have never seen a lobby clear it
>>583351247i litteraly never failed one, it's the easiest of all 3 since the HP is so low you can solo it
>>583346585>and most importantly leaving the PS Vita out to die of exposure like a baby you didn't want.Based, justice for the Vita
>tragic scene of baxter dying>oh yeah remember kate from like 2 or 3 missions ago? here's a little clip of her dying all alone toowhat the fuck dude
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>>583351471chopper get's PJ'd by voychek ahh moment
>>583351207for half PSM planes and the lower level stuff yeah, but with the maxed out super planes it might be busted. main reason is the IEWS though, for the growler and others you need two slots for ECM and ESM. IEWS is just both combined which the barricader gets
>>583350927>best plotWhat fucking plot? It has as much plot as Skies of Deception>best rival aceNigger are you serious? Yellow 13 sucks in every metric imaginable.
>>583353118stop baiting here and go to the next thread
