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Sonic should fight choreography generally sux
I want Sonic's eyes.
>>583340315Sonic should fight, choreography generally sux Sonic should fight choreography, generally suxSonic should, fight choreography generally, suxSonic, should, fight, choreography, generally, sux
i don't know where i ami don't know who i amall i know is that i must kill
>always wanna come back to the whiteboard>never know what to draw
Homing attacking each other a bunch and martial arts with short limbs isn't as cools as prequel lightsaber fights. Sadly, I have not watched the prequels since I think they suck, and didn't even watch Star Wars.
>>583340453Ask for it and we will give you ideas
>>583340479>martial arts with short limbsI donβt understand why they persist with this, it never looks good in 3D
>>583340513i don't want your ideas. i want my own...
>>583340479So you have no idea what you're talking about, got it.
>>583340743Then die like a dog nigger
>>583340616From watching YouTube animations of Sonic fighting with martial arts in 3D, It can look good in motion. But it does not when you pause the video, and the proportions make freeze frame poses look weird and unmemorable
>>583340479I don't understand this argument, since aren't lightsaber battles just a limb shortening exercise?
>>583340826They are flashy and easily readable and look good in motion and paused. Especially the stuff in the prequels.
>>583340885I mean, the pic you used in >>583340479 famously ended with 3 shortened limbs.
Trick or treat?
>>583340925That's a cool fact/jokeYou just made me have a thought: if Sonic was truly shonen demographic instead of kodomo, it'd have violence like what is sometimes in the Star Wars movies, because Star Wars is like for 12 years olds or something.
Why is everybody stupid except me?
>>583341192It's not just you, I'm also not stupid. My IQ puts me in the top 99 percentile, making me one of the smartest people here.
*headpats your OC*
What monster Sonic villains in Sonic have powers past their pay grade?
>>583341632Eggman.I don't believe anyone's paying Eggman, which sets the bar pretty low for him.Unless by "monster" you mean "beast".
>>583341570This is OC, DK would be a horrible friend
>>583341632beings like Gaia, Solaris, and Ifrit are effectively godsI guess maybe Mephiles?
>>583341632This motherfucker. This time eater might be one of the strongest beings, with its ability to break the fabric of space and time itself.
>>583341769LolI was referencing a line from Super Sonic X Universe that went something like "His powers are way past their pay grade"
Can you please stop pretending to like Uwuver
>>583341570Silver is what Amy wished she was
>>583342093Why did Silver kill Espio with his powers there?
Holynfuck do you have nothing else to do with your lives than posting Silver the HedgehogKill yourselves
>>583342524Are you mad people love a character Lettuce
>>583341987I keep forgetting about Time Eater, probably because I donβt really like its name
>>583342524Actually no, I only post Silver 24/7
>>583342579It's extremely forgettable. It's practically a footnote in the game, and it's not explained where it came from or where it went. Ultra lazy writing that's the hallmark of minimum effort sonic team.
>>583342579>>583342661Its boss fight is lazy, boring, and dumb, like the rest of the game.
my OC would kill your OC
>>583343128my OC would put up a helluva fight at the very least
>>583343128Yes they would.
Anon i... *blushes* dd-o you want t-to... come with me in uuu uuhhhhhAAAAADATE??!?
DIG THROUGH THE DITCHES AND BURN THROUGH THE WITCHES I SLAM IN THE BACK OF MY DRAGULAAAdo it babyyy do it babyyyAND BURN LIKE AND ANIMAL
Stop being tsunderes
>>583343551but Iβm kuudere
There was a time we couldn't talk badly about Sonic generations
then, i was told to "Save /sthg/".
Born with no soul, lack of controlCut from the mold of the anti-socialPlug 'em in and then turn it onProcess the data, make yourself the bombWhat is your target? What is your reason?Do you have emotions? Is your heart freezing?Seizing this opportunity to speakYou didn't say nothing, but turn your fucking cheekDEAD CELLDEAD CELLSick in the head, living but dead, hear what I saidLearn a lesson from the almighty dreadJah, nutty warrior, nothing's scarierKids are getting sick like malariaSituation gets hairierI'm throwing up all types of barriersI'm tellin' ya, the kids are getting singled outLet me hear the dead cell shoutDEAD CELLDEAD CELL
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHH? NANI YATTA NO?????
>>583343801Generations has always been a mid game surrounded by absolute shit, making it look better by default.The only people still praising it haven't played it since 2011.
Let the bodies hit the floorLet the bodies hit the floorLet the bodies hit the floorLet the bodies hit the
blows at night
>>583344301I'll take ten.
>>583344301>glows in the darkLike a G.U.N.igger?
Someone tell me why people want Surge to be friends with Amy, It seems to be more than calm fetishism they seem to think it's in Amy's character to reach through Surge's schizopheria and Surge's to at least trust Amy but I don't understand,
>>583344301That's sus
>>583344452Yuritards
i wanna spank maria
Do you think Silver has a yearly meeting with all his future and past selves?
>>583345484There is that Archie issue of the Sonic Multiverse CouncilAlso, it's what Kang does
>>583345663Who is Kang?
All begins and ends in darkness
>>583343951>Unleashed has always been a mid game surrounded by absolute shit, making it look better by default>Mania has always been a mid game surrounded by absolute shit, making it look better by default>Frontiers has always been a mid game surrounded by absolute shit, making it look better by default
>>583345761The Conqueror
Okay but Unleashed is not a good game. The only reason people like it is because they grew up with it.
>>583345904Used to play unleashed daily back then, tried to replay it again and.. ugh honestly it's not that fun. but at least it looks good
>>583345904I did not grow up with unleashed. I tried to play it for the first time a couple years back and I couldn't do it. I was miserable.I ended up playing through a sonic generations mod that ported over all the daytime stages from unleashed, and that was good enough for me.
sonic was always mid?
>it doesn't fill the circleREEEEEEEEEEE
>>583346458>Honorable discharge
Unleashed specifically Eggmanland was the apex of this franchise. It had the best graphics, ambitious level design with a high skill ceiling, and a fun plot that made Eggman the main villain again.
>>583344301Amy's been conspiring against me this whole time!!!!
Dont tell me a Frenchfag is the only one who plays the games or a Quebecois, idk
>>583346620eggmanland was one of the good parts in unleashed. i hate every werehog level though
>>583346527Out of all the characters fucked over by Archie, Honey was the most. People swear it's Sonic or Amy but most people don't even remember Sally and it's commonly agreed that Sonic isn't an openly romantic guy anyways (except shipfags). Honey on the other hand was replaced in the fandom by this horny pedophile before she even had a chance. More people know her Archie personality over her canon one
>>583344452Amy is a redeemfag. Also she makes friends with everyone.I think it would be fun if Surge hated Soniv but liked Amy.
>>583346527Anon, without colours, you might as well have posted them naked
>>583346751Where are her boobs
Being this hyperfixated on a silly niche ship on a Taiwanese clam collecting forum is not healthy.
Does SA2 reveal that Maria and Gerald were robotniks before the last story? In-game not the manual.
>>583346989Gerald is called Gerald Robotnik by Eggman explicitly. Gerald calls Maria his grand daughter. Eggman says Gerald is his grandfather.Why do you ask?
>>583346858In my mouth.
>>583346883https://files.catbox.moe/ub864v.png
>>583347101But only in the last story
>>583347153Holy based.
>>583347101I haven't played SA2 in a while and I'm watching the movie which just immediately reveals that they're related to Eggman. It's only treated like a mystery for a few minutes.
>>583346552I'm getting friend requests now.ALL REFUSED!
>>583345838Not quite.Unleashed has always been terrible, regardless of zoomer revisionism.Mania has always been good, regardless of /sthg/ revisionism.Frontiers has always been a bad game only glazed because of memorable boss music.
do you see it?
>>583346692>i hate every werehog level thoughWhat are your thoughts on Eggmanland merging day and night stages by having sections where you switch to the werehog form?
^-^
What is up /sthg/
>>583348121my cock ha hah
>>583348121Getting horny thinking about Sonic, much to my frustration.
>>583345904I didn't grow up with Unleashed. I played it as an adult for the first time last year. I loved it.
>>583347317I remember someone saying that them being related was a plot twist and that was the reason why Eggman got two character cards in Sonic X, one saying his real name is unknown and then another one that says Robotnik, and then he said that the reason Sonic Channel says it's unknown is also not to spoil the plot twist in SA2. I don't know how much of this is true.
>>583345904The werehog stages are just not fun man and they basically ruin the game>>583348240>>583348250Too much horniness
>>583348372>>583347317>>583347101>>583346989This was supposed to be a twist? Now I want to play SA2 and see when's the earliest point the game acknowledges that Eggman and Gerald are related
>>583347993Cute boy!!!!!
>>583348495Yes!
/sthg/ians should make more stuff like this
>>583348416I enjoy the Werehog stages. I like how it alternates between fast and slow, and how that fits with the overall theme of the game. What I'm not very fond of is the forced combat to open doors and proceed, which is a problem I have with all the games in this era, but I still find the Werehog great when it focuses more on platforming or puzzles. I prefer the standard to be a more balanced approach, but I think the game would be much less interesting without them, even more since the Boost can get pretty boring and samey, as seen in the later games>>583348564Boyboyboyboyboyboy
I liked that all of SA2's stages tried to fit into a consistent theme without feeling dull
>>583348705Great whiteboard art, that anon did a great job>>583348874What do you mean exactly by consistent theme?
Do you find Tailsposting annoying /sthg/? >>583348813Unfortunately the design of these levels is mostly based on those slow ass mini arenas. Everything else, like the exploration and platforming are secondary
>>583348979yes
This but with Amy and Rouge
>>583347598Unleashed and Generations are good as boost games, and do better at realizing a 3D Sonic game than something like Adventure. Mania, I would say, is more middling by 2D Sonic game standards and has far less of an excuse to fail in some of the ways it does, even if it's not outright bad.
>>583348874I think it's funny that, Iizuka kinda hating that story based consistency lead to stuff like Heroes' kitchen sink approach to level theming.
>>583347317SA2 never treats it as a surprise that thry are related either.
>>583349073Why? Honestly you could just hide the posts. This is what I'm going to do
>>583348943Most 2000s video games have the gameplay determined first, and then the cutscenes are made to justify it right? But in SA2 all of the levels in the game feel like consequences of each other. The entire game is littered with GUN's influence. The furthest it strays away is Eggman's pyramid and Angel Island. You would think it would get boring that half (over half) of the game is some kind of GUN facility or GUN influenced location but it all works
>>583349171What a nice Tails.
>>583349171some mentally ill see that as surrendering, so theyβd rather seethe than filter
>>583349197Yeah in SA2 the story takes precedence over the game structure which leads to problems>>583349224Yep
>>583348372It's bullshit. He says he is his grandfather frame one in Sonic X.>>583348460It wasn't. People making shit up. His recaps even say it right away.the manual even says it outright for both of em.
>>583349171No, you can't. They hide their filenames, they never use a pattern you can filter, and they're always obnoxious about their pedophiles fetishes.
>>583349310>which leads to problemsSuch as?
>>583348979>Do you find Tailsposting annoying /sthg/?No one with a sane mind does>Unfortunately the design of these levels is mostly based on those slow ass mini arenas. Everything else, like the exploration and platforming are secondaryA lot of it is like that, but it also depends on the stage. I remember liking Rooftop Run acts 1 and 2, Cool Edge act 1, Jungle Joyride act 3, Eggmanland... Probably a few more. I think Rooftop Run act 1 is my favorite night stageIn general I think just not making combat open doors would improve the experience significantly, idk why they were so obsessed with that between 2003 to 2007. Even Sonic Rush did this iirc>>583349197Yeah, you're right, that's great. It sounds like a bad idea, but they managed to execute it greatly. It's probably for the best that they didn't try to prioritize the story again, idk if they'd pull it off again, seems like a high risk. Maybe someday
>>583348979You don't have to post a generic cute tails picture in every single one of your posts and it's making me annoyed at you and tails fans
>>583349445What is that in front of him
>>583349310>which leads to problemsWhat kind?>>583349197How many Sonic games are like this and how many are not? Frontiers and SHTH level themes are all under one big umbrella theme
>>583349541Such as the game structure being bad by having you play as characters in weird orders>>583349479Well I've never changed filenames so you can just hide my images at least>>583349549Yeah Sonic Rush also had those mini arenas. I think it's a consequence of Sonic Team wanting to add combat to Sonic starting in Heroes, and in that game I think it was mostly the result of padding
>>583349643Based & telling it how it is
>>583348979You have to post a generic cute Tails picture in every single one of your posts and it's making me pleased with you and Tails fans
>Admitting you're spammingOkay
>>583349643Ok then I'll stop doing that >>583349848Ok I'll do it when Tails is referenced
We are not praising SA2 turning the entire game into Enemy of the State. That "story first" format is why you have to play so many shitty alternate playstyles
>>583349936Tailspedos are retarded, please understand. Being a pedo ruined.
First good morning of the thread
>>583349802Oh, in Heroes' case I think it was the result of wanting RPG elements, which in that game took the form of level ups and a rock/paper/scissor system. I think the idea is that in each stage you get stronger and stronger making combat quicker. Although I haven't played Heroes, so anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrongSo maybe it makes sense in Heroes, but in Rush, 2006, and Unleashed it just feels forced>>583349962Oh nooooLuckily I already make sure to reference Tails as much as possible>>583350087Good morning!
>>583349936How is it spamming? It's on topic and high quality >>583350087Gm!
>Enemy of the stateSA2 reminds me more of vantage point except it turns into close encounters towards the end
What are some secondary characters nobody gives a fuck of besides (You)?
>>583347463Are you the one with cat pfp or anime pfp
CHADver's concubines.
>>583350146Yeah but I think the specific design choice of having specific "battle areas" is the result of that game's recycled and rushed level design
>>583350185a white wolf, though the Destructix have a small following as a group
>>583350314I don't want to say anything about Heroes' level design but yeah you're right about that design choice being recycled without much thoughtAlso funnily Colors does it exactly once in the entire game iirc, in Aquarium Park>>583350463They're so cute, both of them!
>>583350190No, it's a loporrit.
Blaze is the Santa Cat of her dimension.She wears the boys costume when she's out giving gifts.
>>583350497They are!
Almost all of sa2 is set in locations you can actually find in real life. It's the least fantasy Sonic game.
>>583350146In Heroes, you get orbs from enemies or from checkpoints, and they're reset on stage clear or on death. This incentivizes planning out which character you want to use for which sections early into each stage, like whether you want to upgrade flight to deal with enemies or sections it's best at dealing with, or speed instead, or focus on power if there's a ton of enemies, or try to spread out. It also encourages learning how to clear a stage in one go, just like the special stage keys do. I think the portable games did this better with things like Advance 2/3 having a system where you go faster at higher ring counts, while game overs are instead more punishing, but Heroes still does it nicely. If the system was inspired by RPGs, they thankfully avoided falling into progression focus with that game.
Unleashed has always been a great game held back by poor hardware. The PC recomp was exactly what it needed to unleash its potential.The werehog mechanics are fine, and only felt like shit because the 360 chugged and sputtered from too many enemies on screen.
>>583350656Your posts are amazing, don't let anyone convince you otherwise>>583350745Are you sure that the most realistic game is the one with the Halloween hills and the crazy space station surrounded by planetoids and meteors and not the game where every single level on a real life city
>>583350745The Adventure games operate on an exaggeration of reality which honestly isn't too dissimilar from the Genesis games. The issue is that the Adventure games used those weird realistic textures which muddied things, sorta like Smash Brawl
Larping all day as a sassy fox girl? I dunno, man... Are you guys...?
Unleashed fans are the most delusional people alive
ENOUGH FOXES!
>>583351016Said no one ever.
>>583350590AoSTH Sonic is the Santa of his dimension too.https://youtu.be/K11Ie81myMQ?si=JZYyVbgWNBzBcCJG&t=1141
>>583350964Yes. There is literally no other Sonic game as grounded as SA2. It feels more action movie than Sonic game.
>>583350964c:
Good morning fellow Tailsbros.
>>583351084AoStH knows what's up>>583351016Nope!
>>583350946Sounds fun, I gotta get around to playing Heroes for real>>583350969I like the SA1 Dreamcast textures, idk why they felt the need to make them more realistic and washed out for SADX (and SA2, but I can understand it if they wanted to match the game's tone better in the dark story)
Shahra and Merlina aren't even real storybook characters.
>>583351114(=>>583351240Good morning!!!!!>>583351084>>583351250So aosth respects Ohshima's vision?
>>583351240Gm! >>583351256The impression I get is that the Dreamcast version feels more washed out and DX is more saturated due to the weird lighting
>>583351397They're cute >So aosth respects Ohshima's vision?In some ways
None of the Sonic TV series respect Oshima's vision or the games.
>>583351398To that I have to ask which DX version you're thinking of because pretty much every release has completely different lighting. I prefer the original Dreamcast graphics, but the DX graphics look fine on GameCube, it's really just a preference. Every release after that messes with the lighting and texture rendering more and more to the point it looks completely differentTo me the Dreamcast version looks much more vivid and colorful, the colors stick out more
>>583351709Nobody respects Oshima's vision including Naka
>>583351727wowPC looks like shitMy ass after I got pegged looked better.
very tempted to filter all dev names tbqh
<3
>>583351802Yeah, a lot of the bad reputation for SADX graphics comes from the PC releases. The GC version has been forgotten for a long time
>>583351812Why?
>>583351812Westfag
>>583351882I mean, I heard it was bad, but damn. That goes beyond "nuu that NPC doesn't clench his fist properly, nweeeh".
>>583351861He's cute cute cute!
>>583351920you can only stomach watching a man repeat himself ad naseum, to no one in particular, and not feel exasperated
>>583351920Archieniggers get upset when you point out that it's OOC
>>583352029Yes!
>>583351943Source btw, if you want to see more comparisons https://dreamcastify.unreliable.network/index.php/mystic-ruins-downgrades/
>>583352029Pedophile.
Kishimoto is a shitty writer. Just as bad as Ian. I don't know why people act like he's an improvement
>>583352193Because he is
Mutated Tails
>>583352064nta>TRVKES your path
The only way Randomfox will be happy is if all Archie fans, Satam fans and most idw fans die and their creators too. I don't know why you keep trying to argue with him.
>>583352145I am angry now.
>>583349802>Such as the game structure being bad by having you play as characters in weird ordersThat has nothing to do with the story first structure. SA1 had the same story structure priority.
>>583351709Not even OVA or X?
>>583350046But enough about SA1
>>583352454Sonic X is just as bad as Archie
>>583352193Imada or Toyoda?
>>583352104:D>>583352382I don't think you are right about this, I think SA1 still prioritized stage themes over story, and it has 6 separate stories instead of switching characters constantly
>>583352382Yeah and it's also bad there. And it has to do with story first structure because the story determines which character you play as
Would it be fair to say that SA2 and Frontiers are the two games where the stage themes are all the most affected by the story
>>583352367I guess that was done for higher framerate. Still a bad change, especially post GC
SA2 ruined this franchise
>>583352678But... weren't the Dreamcast shittier than the Gamecube? Also PC have pretty much unlimited memory in comparaison to consoles, even living room consoles.
>>583350745Show me Pyramid Gave and Crazy Gadget IRL lolSA2 isn't just City Escape and Radical Highway.
>>583352781>Pyramid GaveMate I'd give you the D.
>>583352765Some anon said once that SA1 was built with specific Dreamcast architecture in mind and porting that over to better consoles was a challenge. Other Dreamcast games often looked better on Dreamcast too
>>583350745But enough about Sonic 3&K
>>583352665The way I see it, SA2 is the ONLY game where story was fully prioritized over gameplay to the point that it decided all of the stage themes. Frontiers' stages are completely disconnected from anything story related except for the halfassed "it's Sonic's memories!" explanation that doesn't even work because it uses the layouts of SA2 Shadow stagesLike I also disagree with this >>583352527SA1 has a bunch of stages that really have nothing to do with story. There is no real story reason for Sonic going through Speed Highway, Tails randomly going to a desert, many of Sonic and Tails' stages and any of the Knuckles stages beyond "the shards are there lol", even ones that are acknowledged in the story like Twinkle Park are just kinda thrown in. SA1 is still stages first, even if the story is importantSA2 gave the writer full freedom by letting him storyboard everything almost like a movie
>>583352665S3&(slightly less so)K
>>583352781>Pyramid GaveDon't forget the Nutty Putty Gave. Or the Gave of Qud. Or the Gave Diving game.
>>583352726I feel like SA1 was more damaging in the long run, if only because it set a bunch of development standards the series has run itself ragged trying to recapture. Though SA2 also kinda contributed to this as well.
>>583352526>I don't think you are right about this, I think SA1 still prioritized stage themes over story, and it has 6 separate stories instead of switching characters constantlySA1 just has the issue of having 6 different stories. Entire parts of stage literally only exist to slap together sections for other characters because of the fact they show up in the area in that storyIts less SA1 doesn't do it and more SA2 does it better because it only has 2 stories to worry about and them dropping hubs and giving everyone unique levels as the structure doesnt restrict them like SA1 did.
>>583352726>>583353387None of this happened.
>>583353387>sa1 was bad because it had too much efforts put in, it evelevated standards, now Sega can no longer release slop!!!
>>583352781That doesn't change anything. Literally every other Sonic game is less groundedEven those examples are just exaggerated versions of real life things. Pyramids and space stations.
>>583352781>Radical Highway.Oh I wasn't aware American highways had hoop-la-hoop. No wonder you people are always so cranky.
Which Sonic character would like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
>>583353427Most of SA1's stages are more so giving the characters something to play thoughAlso, this existed since Sonic 1, and even more so in Sonic 3, except story wasn't focused on as much which allowed them to change the order of the stages even late in development>>583353475>just exaggerated versions of real life thingsYou can say this about everything in Sonic 1The most grounded game is Unleashed, and even then, >>583353563 is still correct
>>583352925Ha... I see, that's why.
>>583352527It doesn't really. The gameplay does. Knuckles levels barely matter to the core story until he gets to the Pyramid. That's the gameplay dictating the story for example.Tails' Mission Street are more or less a formality. Shadow's radical highway is kind of a filler level.The choice to bring back the gameplay styles is why you play as those characters, not the story.The whole reason GUN even exists is because they needed someone for both Sonic and Eggman to fight since him destroying his own robots makes no sense.
I want a Shadowfag to spam with...he's the cutest and he should know that. Giving Shadow things he doesn't want!
Sonic Adventure 2 never appealed to me because it felt more like a marvel movie than a Sonic game. Why is it trying so hard to be tough? Why did they make Sonic talk in quips? Where's the spinning flowers and magic? Why did nearly every stage need hard core rock music? It's trying too hard to fit in with the crowd.
>>583349091>and do better at realizing a 3D Sonic game than something like Adventure.I know you're technically right as the "2.5D" stuff better represents original Sonic gameplay but I feel that freedom of movement in Adventure is what a 3D Sonic should be aiming for.Yes it's jank as fuck but that concept is better than just having 3D Sonic being 2D with models.I will also argue that Mania is a good game held back having to implement old levels.
>>583353713Aw crud this sucks and is annoying
I think Maria needs a spanking!
>>583353758?
>>583353432>SA1 badDidn't say that>>583353431>None of this happened.You don't get 06 without SA1Scope-creep was/ and kind still is a real problem for Sonic
>>583352765The DC was better than thr GC in certain specific aspects such as transparency effects and lighting effects.
Boi! ^-^
>>583353475>That doesn't change anything. Literally every other Sonic game is less groundedHow are 06 and Unleashed less grounded? Or Shadow05?
>>583353721>https://www.sanrio.com/
>>583353758I think you replied to the wrong post. Shadow is cute. Cute! I miss when /sthg/ posted the hedgehogs more often.
>>583353814The controller always fit in your anus better.
>>583353713kill yourself pathetic lolcow with no dignity
>>583353929>How are 06 and Unleashed less grounded?god kaiju, fantasy enemies and werehog in Unleashed's case>Shadow05aliens
>>583353929Shadow has literally all of the level themes from SA2 but with more aliensUnleashed has a giant magical Phoenix themed level and ghosts, again covering the weirdest parts of sa2. 06's final story is set in a magical space rift where you fight God. Sa2 is set in a satellite where you fight a diseased lizard.
>>583353702Actually, these are good points, hmmm>>583353721>Why did they make Sonic talk in quips?He jokes like twice>Where's the spinning flowersIn Green Hill>and magic?What>Why did nearly every stage need hard core rock music?It doesn't. Rock is used for Sonic and Eggman, and Tails gets lighter rock. The other characters have rap, jazz, R&B...
Sonic AI campfire party thing or whatever
>>583353713You would have that if you respected Violet
>>583354101You were talking about locations, not enemies. Anyway, SA2 still has the Biolizard and the animal friends
>>583353673>Most of SA1's stages are more so giving the characters something to play thoughThat's mostly just a Sonic (and by extension Tails) issue though. Everyone else is doing stuff because of story.Sonic's playthrough is just him.showing up to other character's cutscenes and Tails is following him most of the time. When he isn't, he is dping shit for the story.>Also, this existed since Sonic 1, and even more so in Sonic 3, except story wasn't focused on as much which allowed them to change the order of the stages even late in developmentThat was just Knuckles really and it was more just his levels were packed into the level design rather than sections being made for him since the two are separated heavily.But yeah
I liked that you could use random objects like street signs as weapons in Shadow's game.
>>583353702>Shadow's radical highway is kind of a filler level.I meant Sky Rail, fuck. But my point still stands. Playing as other characters was a gameplay imposition, not a story one.
>>583354346Nothing worth respecting.
I am downloading so much AI slop from dA
>>583353721Can you share your Shadow video link again? I liked the video even if I disagree with it.
>>583354484Same, I wouldn't mind that feature coming back some day it makes for funny pics
>>583353713>>583353986Hope you can have more hedgehogboys posters again someday Shadowfriend>>583354565Oh yeah, Sky Rail was literally just switched around last minute just like they did with some zones in Sonic 3&K. It was supposed to be a Sonic stage. Yeah, you're right, the story focus isn't to blame for the character switching. Thank you for correcting that
>>583353721This is precisely what I like about Sonic: it is cartoons that are badass and has action.I always loved SA2, and it with other Maekawa games are my favorite Sonic stuff. The classics, SA1, were always sort of eh to me.
Stop selfreplying
Sa2 seems to annoy people who were under the impression classic sonic was a stoic grumpy guy
>>583353721>did they make Sonic talk in quips?He literally makes less in SA2 than SA1 in English. He makes 1 at the start and thats it.>>583354101>god kaiju, fantasy enemies and werehog in Unleashed's caseBy this logic, Sonic 3 is more grounded than Sonic Unleashed.How is giant Biolizard and cartoon hedgehog with space time warping powers grounded? Especially when they were made by researching magic rocks from ancient civilizations?
Extreme and hyper masculine
>>583354803>>583354803Thanks anon
>>583353748>I feel that freedom of movement in Adventure is what a 3D Sonic should be aiming for.That freedom is precisely why I have an issue with Adventure, even if I can see the appeal of it. It's less about 2D/3D and more that in Adventure, many aspects that I found interesting about Sonic are lost. It technically has physics but you can ignore them with the spindash, you're given so much control even mid-air, and most hazards are too ineffective or easy to skip, and the spindash neutralizes most of the stage terrain. Boost games attempt to make the player engage with their controls and stages to at least some degree (though even as early as Generations, they were overadjusting to be friendly to all players) and I prefer that.
>>583354894kek>>583354913I prefer the classics and SA1 personally because I like cute and upbeat stuff, but this is an understandable position
>>583354971niggas saw 10 seconds of Sonic CD intro and were like>Sonic is so dark and mysterious. Shadow stole his traits and he should have stayed dead
>>583354705Is that the guy who says SA2 turned Sonic into Satamnic
Some of you people want Sonic to be tonally closer to a cartoon-for-small-children show than it is to DBZ. Like the small horse show.I can understand edginess is divisive, but SA2 did it well. Shadow 2005 is good if you want even more of it, but probably turns those who don't like it further against it
>>583355325There's a plenty of hellokitty for them to enjoy outside Sonic. We're keeping our edgy shit
>>583349091>and do better at realizing a 3D Sonic game than something like Adventurelolno>>583353748>I know you're technically right as the "2.5D" stuff better represents original Sonic gameplayNot even slightly right. You don't make 2D Sonic in 3D by making it 2D with a completely different moveset. Complete nonsense. It's okay to have a preference, but traditional 2D Sonic and Boost control completely different.
Not that guy, but I'm pretty sure it's this video https://youtu.be/IHPcCgNcAuE?
>>583355408Nice!
>>583354803>It was supposed to be a Sonic stageThis is actually a Retro myth. We now know (unsurprisingly desu) that all 6 characters were always meant to be playable. It's just that since Tails, Shadow and Rouge were based on the other 3 characters, the early trailers only showed them since thry just used them to test the levels and gameplay.But the gist is still the same.Sky Rail was made because they wanted a Pumpkin Hill Speed level and then they decided Shadow gets it and it happens during a point of downtime.While SA2 is structured around the story, it isn't completely one-sided. The game still is built on top of the foundation of the use of the 3 gameplay styles and the heroes vs villains structure
>>583355543Age-restricted?
>>583355662Oh no, I've always known all 6 characters were meant to be played. Sky Rail was still supposed to be a Sonic stage though. People used that as evidence for Shadow not being playable, but I didn't find that convincing. Sky Rail is internally labeled as a Sonic stage, and the music sounds like music for a Sonic stage, not a Shadow one. I think there's an interview Senoue outright says it. They just took one of Sonic's stages that were irrelevant to the story and gave it to Shadow because of how few stages he has
>>583354971They saw his Sonic 2 sprite and projected this idea he was a jerksue edgelord. It's kinda funny.They also hate his Sonic 3 sprite because he smiles and looks less American Kirby.>>583355185Lel
Didn't Pariah also say the same shit? Is this a classic boomer thing?
>>583352367Dreamcast supported hardware transparency, so many transparency effects like tree textures had to be removed for the gamecube and pc versions.
>>583356027I'm very confused that something like that is in a Dreamcast but not in a later console....the gamecube did come AFTER the dreamcast, right?
>>583355204The guy who compares Maekawa to Zack Shnyder, yeah.At first, I humored it because it seemed interesting via circumstantial evidence, but when I dug into things, o just couldn't find any real structure or smoking gun to it. It feels more, like a lot of narratives about Shadow, SA2 and its popularity in the face of classicism, a sort of cobbled together story that works its way backwards to validate an existing assertion.But I still liked the video because its still an interesting incite and opens up a lot of fun and interesting convo topics.
>>583355475>lol noHow? Adventure Sonic doesn't control like 2D games and the stages are designed entirely differently as a result. Even with harder stages like Lost World in mind, things like spindash jumps there are very easy and consistent to do. In 2D Sonic it's very difficult to control characters at high speeds, and you have to be very specific if you don't want to slow down when getting through certain sections. Even something as simple as a single jump on slightly uneven terrain can slow you down or instead benefit you depending on when exactly you jumped. Adventure's spindash mostly gets rid of this.>traditional 2D Sonic and Boost control completely different.Yes, but boost was still made to recreate some aspects of 2D Sonic's stages, even if it meant going even further away from the focus on physics. I don't think the boost games are accurate to 2D Sonic at all, but they achieve some similar challenges to it, while Adventure does not.
>>583355145That's fair, though some of these issues will likely crop up in 3D Sonic regardless of gameplay style.Enemies are likely the biggest issue. In both Adventure and Boost games, they mainly exist for homing attack chains. Otherwise, they're either entirely skippable or you just boost through them, serving no purpose both ways (though the latter is more of a spectacle I suppose).I personally don't have an issue with 'neutralising' stage terrain, though. I personally feel that knowing where to spindash jump, or even boost jump, to skip certain sections is a reward for level knowledge. A first playthrough will likely always be as intended, after which you can start to experiment. Sometimes this is even rewarded with capsules hidden around if you go off the normal path.What I will praise Boost games for though is the potential for "flow" in the levels; moments when you're stringing together boosts, jumps, stomps etc. with little breaks or downtime in between to get through sections. These feel great, but also seem few and far between, levels instead focusing on long 'hold boost' segments with little other input or stopping entirely for a slower platforming section. That's why I prefer Adventure overall. There's less "flow" due to the more open movement, but I also feel in direct control of my actions more often than not.
What if Atlus was told to make a Sonic JRPG and instead of going the Persona route like everyone would expect, they made it SMT 6?
>>583346751Amy's a Smiling Friend
>>583356281>How? Adventure Sonic doesn't control like 2D games and the stages are designed entirely differentlyIt has a similar moveset and the level design is just a simplified version to be more manageable to navigate in an open 3D space. It's closer than Boost will ever be.>they achieve some similar challenges to it, while Adventure does not.If you're thinking of the Sonic 2 Special Stages. Otherwise, no.
>>583355325SA2 to me is like "Sonic The Action movie."It never outright stops being Sonic to me, but I can understand someone seeing a helicopter with radio chatter in the opening cutscene and being confused what game they are playing because thats how I felt when I first played the game. But then they mention captured hedgehog aboard and the music shifts and its like "oh shit no way it IS Sonic!" and its just pure Sonic kino being carried to the end.I personally think Heroes had the perfect tonal balance for the series and represents what I feel should be a sort of benchmark status wuo tone the series should have.
>>583356490I'd be disappointed it's not Sonic Q
>>583356325Hot
>>583356490ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
>>583355884Link? I find that interesting. Sky Rails's theme name is Mr. Unsmiley lol it doesnt sound like a Sonic theme name.I also don't partocuarly see hoe SkyRail is more fitting of Sonic than Shadow. To me it sounds similar to Radical Highway.
I want MORE Sonic games that have the aesthetic of an action movie
I want Shadow to be loved for who he is
>>583356585>I can understand someone seeing a helicopter with radio chatter in the opening cutscene and being confused what game they are playing because thats how I felt when I first played the game. But then they mention captured hedgehog aboard and the music shifts and its like "oh shit no way it IS Sonic!" and its just pure Sonic kino being carried to the end.I like this type of intro. Sonic 2006 does it too
>>583356912Yes I want more Sega
>>583356490>Sonic learns new and different spells and have different stats and alignments based on which Chaos Emerald he's holding.
>>583356976
>>583356024It's less a Classic "Boomer" thing and more a Classicfag thing. Pariah isn't a boomer. He's part of the group who found shit like Retro on their late teens and adopted a lot of Classicfag rethoric and narratives to seem more sophisticated.
Holy shit, this bitch foid is already turned on just from text. >>583357091
If you're going to acknowledge and insult the foid can you at least do it in a way that doesn't make me think you're fapping while doing it.
I think being a woman who's attracted to a male is gay.
>>583350185what's wrong wit yer faaaaaaace?
>>583357621I think being alive is pretty gay. We should find a way to fix that, globally and permanently.
>>583357371Shut the fuck up sage, it's been 11 years and you barely tried to kill yourself.
>>583357371Stop schlicking to my posts, you little puta dog. I can smell your stinky fingers.
>>583357371Bitch I fap when I'm insulting people no matter WHAT sex they are! I generate my own horniness!
>>583355145I actually agree with this which is why I liked SA2 and Heroes more since they did things to make you actually engage woth the level design more and enemies and obstacles.In a lot of ways, Boost gameplay feels more like the special stages from Sonic 2 than playing action platform levels. Unleashed onward, levels stop really having their own level gimicks and intricacies.Like SA2 for example, Sonic's Crazy Gadget has the anti gravity and Shadow's Final Chase gas the barrels. Boost stages all go mush in my head. The levels before sort of told a story through playing them but boost stages don't.
>>583356551>similar movesetThat doesn't mean anything when the movement itself is entirely different, and the main ability contributes to that by making it easy to recover from losing speed at any point with no drawbacks. In the 2D games, if you're trying to get through quickly, you'll realize that the spindash can be very difficult to use, as you need to be on relatively flat terrain, manage to stop quickly, and then know what comes after to not waste a use of it. This doesn't apply to Adventure's spindash, which instead encourages constantly chaining it.>simplified version to be more manageable to navigate in an open 3D spaceFrom an exploration point of view, yes, as it retains a lot of that appeal with stages being more open and having many secrets within them. But otherwise, the simplification is so severe that it barely resembles the 2D games, and loses the challenge factor almost entirely. >>583356445>I personally feel that knowing where to spindash jump, or even boost jump, to skip certain sections is a reward for level knowledgeThat is true, but in 2D games, both classic and later, the stages are still designed to challenge you even once you do know ways to get around some of the obstacles, even if it's not always done through hazards, but through things like obtrusive terrain making it very difficult to avoid losing speed when going through a section. >Enemies are likely the biggest issue. In both Adventure and Boost games, they mainly exist for homing attack chains. Otherwise, they're either entirely skippable or you just boost through them, serving no purpose both waysThat is true. Given the boost games are inspired (to a degree) by Advance and Rush, I wonder if they could have tried doing something similar to these games, like how in Advance a lot of enemies use projectiles or try to get in your way during sections where you can't easily deal with them.
>>583357764>>583357825>>583357871Most sane /sthg/ posters.
"Fap" is a cool word that sounds sweet
>>583357652What about it? It's regular Fiona on a regular day
"Mate" is a sweet word that sounds ripper
>>583356887I'm sure I saw these things years ago, but as I don't have links ready, I guess it's best if you don't believe me. I'll post them if I find them. If you want to search for them yourself as well, I think the stage assets thing was mentioned in a hacking thread on Sonic Retro, with screenshots as proof
>>583357985You have to be 18 years or older to post on here fyi.
Oh my God she's leaking between her legs, she's all wet and bothered. Crazy slut is turned on by her stalker writing rapefics about her.
>>583357937Quit avatarfagging loser. Nobody finds it funny.
>>583358135I am acting so immature that I keep making people think I am like a kid when I am a full adult on different internet websites
>>583358023Sawwwniiiiiiiiik
>>583357937I love you sage! even DOE i insult you!
>>583356445Enemies in SA2 and Heroes do a better job of actually being obstaclesEnemies in SA2 block progress by taking up physical space and blocking passageways and actually attack you.Heroes has enough of em to accomplish something similar.The games experiment with enemy gates as well to make you actually interact with enemies as well. They are also just WAY bigger as well and come in different types with different valid ways to approach them.In boost games, enemies go full level decoration bowling pins and homing chains by comparison, and homing chains in Boost have just been completely dummed down.
>>583357985True
>>583357985It sounds lame like all English swears. Now masturbation, that sounds technical and detailed. Masturbatory fantasies.But it's still too technical compared to how other languages say jacking it off. Fuck is such a lame word compared to how other countries say it.
>>583356985Yeah that intro was also similar and was also cool. Youre there watching what feels like a Final Fantasy cutscene and then Sonic comes on and its like "Yeah there he is that's the GOAT".But I feel 06 doesn't carry that energy across the rest of the game nearly as well.Sonic only really feels like that in the opening and ending cutscenes.
>>583346458i did it
>>583358346
>>583357906>Unleashed onward, levels stop really having their own level gimicks and intricacies.To a degree, you're right, and it seems like every 3D boost game struggled with this, like how Generations tries to have gimmicks but gives them to classic Sonic with varying results. It does mean that some boost stages still end up being very focused and keep the appeal of precise movement and needing to plan out a specific route to stick to, but at the cost of everything beyond that being lost or realized poorly. It's a shame.>>583358410Enemies like the Artificial Chaos in SA2 or electric GUN Beetles make me wonder why they haven't returned to that kind of thing. Since the boost games were less open in the first place, enemies like this would fit them well. I am also not sure why games like Colors have entire stages dedicated to things like the quickstep bugs or the crab miniboss when they're so basic.
Douge
>>583359014Cute and canon!
>>583359014>>583359042HEYFEMALESOF THE BROWN ASIAN VARIETY AND SOMETIMES SOUTH AMERICAN VARIETYI WROTE YOU A SONG. IT GOES A LITTLE SOMETHING LIKE THIS:https://voca.ro/1ewfPjc6zJ7eNow imagine Sonic singing it in Spanish and you'll get wet like the little horny brownoid you are. All you browns seek the white man cock when he grabs you and abuses you, laughs in your face and growls at you. You will never be a white woman. I bet you get bisexual horny whenever Stacy is yelling at you, you bitch dog.
FUCK.I left my Maria on.(Maria is the name of my oven.)
Hate it when you find an artist that draws a fetish that you like but they usually take it way too far and make it weird.
>>583359131>michiyoshi drawing tails shotacon>michiyoshi drawing tails kicking and screaming and spelling out that he's a child while rouge forces herself on him
Dear rabbis of /sthg/, who is the most kosher character and why is it eggman?
happy birthday!
>>583359426>Gentle femdom>Look inside gallery>Daycare, ABDL and age regression
>>583359131>hentai comic where Knuckles starts dominating Amy>aww hell yeah>She starts crying>He points a gun to her head to force herjesus fucking christ
>>583359131Krazyelf in a nutshell>>583359669Gun?
>>583358891>Artificial ChaosI love them. And love how the best way to defeat them is to jump into them rather tha homing attacking. Enemies that punish just homong attacking carelessly is a strict positive on my book.And they have those extendo arms so they are an actual obstacle threat if not dealt with so they provoke you to engage them rather than just ignore them.Then you have enemies like the Spiked cars that you also can't homing attack because of the spikes. You have to attack em from the sides with a somersault or punch or spin.>Since the boost games were less open in the first place, enemies like this would fit them well. Because the boost games are too fast. Thoughtful enemy design like that only works if the player can be expected to reasonably parse them and then act based on observation.Some boost games on occasion actually do use electric spinners, and its because the homing attack slows the gameplay down.>I am also not sure why games like Colors have entire stages dedicated to things like the quickstep bugs or the crab miniboss when they're so basic.I think you kind of answered your own question, lol. The reality is People want the fantasy of playing cutscene Sonic but most people do not have the actual skills and reflexes to play Cutscene Sonic which alienates players.
>>583359131>character A is mind controlled to fuck character B>instead of enjoying it or simplifying it the author makes it that they are disgusted and terrified in the end and start vomiting
>>583359131>Well drawn comic starts with several of the cast getting mind controlled and forced to fuck each other>Ends Tails getting his neck snapped, Rouge vomiting up her organs and Amy literally having her guts blown outThe worst part is that I saw the tag and still decided to see how it ended.
Oh hi AmyOh hi KnucklesOh hi gun-barrer-
>>583359489>weird nose>its different color for no reason>backspinesTrash
Start posting examples or I'll fuck you
>>583359626Very cute. I wish they gave her a catgirl design like that now.
>>583360107Why are you so horny?
I have no fetishes. I'm only attracted to conventionally attractive human women.
why are you so weird about women posting here
>>583360179>>583360179Which Evan Stanley cannot draw.
>>583360191There are no women on the internetThey're all having sleep overs and kissing Chad behind the bleachers
>>583360013don't be rude to backspines or amy gonna have to hammer a bitch
>>583359131The amount of femdom comics I've seen that turns into straight up torture, genital mutilation and murder is disturbing.
>>583359669>>583359975DROP THE GUNS BITCHES, THEY'RE MINE
>>583360107I am horny too but I can ignore it when I want to
I like making people uncomfortable so I will continue to take things too far
>>583360323
that one honey poster who used to post her rape fantasies of tails was fine at first and then it started getting into weird shit that made me feel ill in real life after reading
>>583359589femdom is just shit
>>583360668I was thinking the same thing that's funny and weird.
>>583360668She started out explicitly saying that she wants it to be the kind of rape thet traumatizes him instead of pornographic rape and escalated to deranged horror shit
>taking this as real lifeInternet isnt real
>>583358632REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHOW HOW DID YOU DO THIS???
>>583361286The Internet IS real
>>583361381It's not
>>583360464I hope you're talking about the fetish talking.
>>583359131>Tailsream fanfic >Hot teen sex scene>She ends up pregnant>Tails realizes Cream is not as emotionally mature as him and isn't ready to be a teen mom>Vanilla finds out, slaps Tails, has a mental break down>Sonic stops talking to Tails>Cream has to be pulled out of school due to everyone calling her a whore >Tails kills himself>Flash cut to the future where Cream and the baby named Miles visit his grave every day
>>583361706Fucking christ
>>583361491So you can post your full name, photo, home address and other private information. The Internet isn't real, so it's all safe, it's like an offline video game. Right?
You need to become gay
>>583361840Maybe
The first sonic fanfic I ever read is the one where Sonic finds out Amy is trans, beats Amy nearly to death and then goes to jail
>>583360501Haha! I love this!
>>583361706>Tailsream fanfic>Cute childhood kisses and playing doctor scene>Hot slow discovery of sex together as they grow up scene>She ends up pregnant>Vanilla congratulates them>Everyone is happy and they all celebrate>Cream wasn't in school to begin with because she's homeschooled by Vanilla, Tails is even one of his teachers since he's so smart>The baby is born into a happy and supportive family>Sonic and Tails keep adventuring together like always and remain best friends forever>The whole family happily has breakfast, lunch, and dinner together every day foreverFixed
>>583362113Based chadnic
>>583361706I can't help but feel like those kind of tortureporn stories are more for the writer than the audience. Like it's their way of venting out emotions and frustrations.>>583361840Just post your social security number and your birthday. There's absolutely nothing anyone could do with that information.
>>583362113get out of my house you fucking faggot
>>583362113I'M NOT FUCKING GAY
>>583362193:)
>>583361706Why are you reading garbage?
>>583362593why do you keep posting this?
>>583362193Finally, some good fucking fanfics.
>>583362646Krack has autism
>>583359827>Then you have enemies like the Spiked cars that you also can't homing attack because of the spikes.Right, I forgot about those, they're also pretty good. >Because the boost games are too fast. Thoughtful enemy design like that only works if the player can be expected to reasonably parse them and then act based on observation.But a game like Unleashed already tries to be more punishing, so it'd make sense to have at least some enemies that are made with the expectation of the player needing to learn them to figure out how to not get hit and get through efficiently. >The reality is People want the fantasy of playing cutscene Sonic but most people do not have the actual skills and reflexes to play Cutscene Sonic which alienates players.I think you're right. It would explain why games that fail to create this illusion are so disliked. A shame, I liked how Unleashed (and 06) had downloadable harder stages, even if they were still hasty and couldn't offer what a full challenging game could have, yet even that was gone afterwards.
>>583362567I was thirteen.
>>583362743Idiot
>>583361869I wish I was, life would be so much easier
>>583362593>half-lid shit
>>583362893Same. I've considered that being gay would be awesome.
>They didn't read Breech Loader fan fictionReal niggas remember
>>583362646to own that one silly woman
>>583362893>>583362971Young adult men are irreversibly fucked in the head
Why is there blatant avatarfagging and AI spamming taking place?Janitors gave up?
>>583363101"Janitors"?Brother, there aren't any.
>>583363101The jannies left a while ago anon.It's just us now.
>>583363101>janitors doing anything importantThey just ban you over small stupid bullshit and leave the rest of this mess up.
I love troon cock!
>>583362193
I hate this mongrel
>>583362593So Shitdow enjoys chilling with his friends, huh
Really the only downside of being gay isnthat you have to fuck poop-ridden buttholes
>>583363385We know Windii
>>583363385Literally who?
>>583363464Many straight people choose to do that
>>583363464Sex in a butt sounds painful.
>>583363464There are gay men who aren't interested in that sort of thing and prefer lighter and cleaner stuff. The ones that want anal sex (most of the time topping) are just more common, louder and obnoxious.
>>583363464And live with lifelong constipation, and have no real traditional system for your pair to keep things in check so you end up betraying the partner or have multiple partners doing bullshit with your "civil union".
>>583363464>>583363737>>583363821One last question, is missionary sex different than butt sex and different kinds of sex? Like "doggy style."
>>583362784>But a game like Unleashed already tries to be more punishing,I don't think Unleashed is super punishing so much as just challenging, but it kind of doesn't matter. But it doesn't really matter. Enemies being on the path bowling you over is acceptable because the game technically gives you to tools to reasonably deal with them because if you are boosting, you dont need to know they are even coming to deal with em. That kind of stops working if the player can't trust the game to be consistent about that.>I think you're right. It would explain why games that fail to create this illusion are so disliked. A shame, I liked how Unleashed (and 06) had downloadable harder stages, even if they were still hasty and couldn't offer what a full challenging game could have, yet even that was gone afterwards.It's why all the most popular stages in the series are the ones that are more automated spectacle or just the first level, and why people complain about Sonic levels being "cheap" or "unfair/too hard" when they actually ask you to engage with the platforming and gameplay.It's kind of like URF in LoL. People are addicted to the idea of it but burn out on it after and don't wanna play either URF or the actual regular game anymore.
>>583363260
>>583345904I didn't grow up with Unleashed. I'm old and I was 22 when it came out. I loved it then and I loved it when I played it again a few weeks ago. It still has the best boost stages in the series, hands down. And the werehog stages aren't nearly as bad as people want to pretend they are. You can skip a lot of fighting (in stages like Chun-nan you can skip all but like two small groups of enemies and finish the stage in about 3 minutes or less) and most people don't engage with their combos and specials despite pretty much every fight being trivialized by like four moves.In other words, skill issue, git gud.
>>583362743>>583363053Idgi
>>583363409>friendsThey're not his friends. They're his allies.
>>583364080Older millennial peeps are cool to have around.Doesn't Unleashed Recompiled and mods make this a non-issue though?
>>583363942You can have anal in missionary position anon
>>583364080>Nearly 40 years oldDamn nigga and I thought I was up there in age after I hit the big 30.
>>583364332The biggest issues with Unleashed are:The awful framerate, stuttersMedal collecting to unlock new levelsHow long (and boring) the Werehog stages areMy understanding is that Recompiled fixes the FPS, but I don't think it touches the other issues.
>>583364271Nigga, he clearly sees them as friends.
>>583364080Great post oldbro. I regret being biased against Unleashed in the past. I finally played it and it's actually amazing, definitely one of the peaks of the series.
>>583364332I dunno, I haven't played it. Even a few weeks ago I went back to my PS3 copy since my PS3 is still hooked up next to my PS4 and Switch. I would imagine a better framerate makes the game much more tolerable to play, though.>>583364634>NearlyUh... yeah. "Nearly." Sure. Let's go with that.
>>583361706>>583362193I would like to read these fanfics
Why are IDWfags so entitled?
>>583364757I was trying to be nice you old bum.
>>583364757Unleashed Recompiled is like a full PC port with both support for old and new mods, resolution changing. It's really good and almost like official feeling.
>>583364739>Nigga, he clearly sees them as friends.Proof?And why are you black?
>>583359131I can't find it but>Mina Tails fanfic>Fanfic.net>Mina starts hanging around Sonic and friends, especially Tails>She starts to push Tails away from the friend group and inviting him to her house more >She starts kissing him and calls it "our little secret" and says not to tell Sonic>Amy finds out and tries to tell Tails that Mina is a pedophile > Tails listens to her but internally stars hoping Mina actually is a pedophile because that means he can get laid>He is finally about to have sex with Mina and Mina is confused. Tails starts forcing himself on Mina but Rouge shows up with GUN and arrests Mina >Tails tries to explain that he was the one trying to have sex but Mina stops him and takes the blame saying she has been raping Tails >Tails visits Mina in prison and she starts crying because she did want to have sex with him but she wanted to wait until he was a grown up and she thought she was a monster but she really fell in love with Tails and wanted to marry him>They kiss and security runs in to taze Mina and bring her to solitary confinement>At the end Sonic shows up to explain he was in the black knight story books
>>583364729>Medal collecting to unlock new levelsThis is not a problem, it's a cool feature that makes the game more fun. If anything, they should have made the requirements higher, I was disappointed by how low they were. Looking for the medals is fun.>How long (and boring) the Werehog stages areAlso false. Play well and have fun.>I don't think it touches the other issues.You can use the launcher to install mods, which I think include removing the medals and making the combat easier, but that would be a rather stupid move. You're not THAT retarded, are you? Literally just play well. I'll only excuse you needing that casualization if you're younger than 13.
>>583365063>This is not a problem, it's a cool feature that makes the game more funYou're insane, but I respect your right to exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fNnkb8ACWs
>>583364789They want to be considered on the same level as the source material because they've been brainwashed by the Lore Team into thinking IDW is canon even though it wasn't initially supposed to be canon at all.
>>583364785The second one was made up by me on the spot, so it would need to be writtenMaybe I should give it a try, I've been wanting to do more creative stuff lately
>>583364729>Medal collecting to unlock new levelsThis one I can give you. If you're not careful about intentionally collecting medals, you can definitely fall short. IIRC you need roughly like half of the total medals in the game to finish it or something, so it's not THAT demanding, but going out of your way if you fall short sucks and I can't try to excuse that.>How long (and boring) the Werehog stages areThis is what I was talking about before, though. Knowing you can just run past a bunch of stuff and also knowing you can even use some of your attacks as skips (the drill attack lets you skip an entire section in Eggmanland, for example) are very important. Like I mentioned Chun-nan before. Here's the last time attack hot dog mission for that stage.https://youtu.be/Lm10YAp_w2g?t=60The only really shit one I can remember is Shamar night.>>583364868Yeah, I'm aware of what it is. I just dunno what was being asked about if Recompiled would "make it a non-issue."
>>583364789>please stop delegitimizing my crying lesbians
>>583365120Yeah yeah, now go on /v/ and make a thread about how 3D Mario should have all the levels open from the start because you're too lazy to collect stars to progress the game
>>583364789This isn't the first time I see IDW fans yell at someone for calling the characters OCsIan literally calls them OCs ffs
Sonic games are fun
>>583364789I saw this and it really shows how insecure IDWfags are. You can tell they don't play the games and only really engage via the comic and social media and only have a problem with this because they see it as "invalidating".People call BoC original characters OCs as well. Because that's what they are. BoC original characters.The IDW original characters are IDW OCs.
>>583362593Delete the coworker narrative!
>>583365904Why do you hate Sonic?
>>583365887If somebody defensively attacks a piece of media and looks like they're waiting for an attack, that's a sign of insecurity whether talking about games or comics. There are game fans like that too
>>583365887they're the kind of people to start seething when people make fun of the issue 50 speech or that moment when sonic starts panicking over what to do in the metal virus
Sonic and Amy switched roles here.
>>583364789He is right, OCs is used to refer to fan characters. People call the comic characters OCs the same way they call the comics fanfics. It is an effort to delegitimize them.Personally I don't care and I call them OCs.
>>583366118>It is an effort to delegitimize them.I don't agree since people just use OCs as an easy descriptor for these characters. They are original characters from the IDW comics. People will instantly know what you're talking about if you call them OCs.Even if it is delegitimizing, is that a problem? Why do they need to be treated the exact same as the games when they're clearly not the same?
I call them OCs because I do not respect them
>>583366409holy based
>>583366372>I don't agree since people just use OCs as an easy descriptor for these characters. They are original characters from the IDW comics. People will instantly know what you're talking about if you call them OCs.It can be interpreted that way, but that's definitely not the primary way I've seen it used in this general.>Even if it is delegitimizing, is that a problem? Why do they need to be treated the exact same as the games when they're clearly not the same?No, I agree with you. As I said, I call them OCs and I think that's delegitimizing.
Any 0.01% of respect I had towards you sea monkeys went down to 0. You report now? Bitch move, girl.
>>583366276See you in 3 days
>>583366276No one here wants your stupid AI trash.No one on Sonic Stadium wants your stupid AI trash.No one on Twitter wants your stupid AI trash.Go away.
Krack reports posts like she's on twitter. Dumb bitch
>westshit characters getting mischaracterizedGOOD>westshit characters getting vaultedGOOD>westshit characters having falsehoods spread about them GOODFuck all of them. Especially Lanolin. Only good for porn.
>>583366746BASED BASED BASED
i will fuck
you nerds are boring I'm gonna go get a haircut
>>583366746
>>583365601Chipmunkussy
>>583366276i'm, er, a normal person xD
>>583366746>Sage just ignoring literally all Ian Flynn characterization in the japanese version >Whisper having no friends in speed simulator except wisps
>>583367187you up.
>>583367213Always double check midway
I love my wolf
>>583367371IDWfags got comfurtable complaining about a Sonic game not using the character writing from their dogshit comic. I hope every IDW character is OOC when they end up in the games.
>>583367371>Whisper having no friendsThey're all dead, Dave. Everyone's dead, everyone's dead, Dave.
Stacyiona!
Silver in the morning: https://youtu.be/yGclFoZ1hQI
>>583367503You've got it all backwards. The comics are OOC, so if an IDW character appears in a game that will be his or her first IC appearance.
>>583367664This is the only way to look at it
Everything is canon
Serious question, is most of you guys thing in these generals going on reddit, tumblr, resetera, twitter or facebook to find some some inflamatory post there to post here just so you can spend the next hundred or so posts arguing over it and go off on rants? Seems like doomscrolling and self reinforcement feedback looping rather than anything productive? The only thing I haven't seen is posting youtube essays and I know they exist because looking for crossworld builds brought me a video of some whatever ranting about how Archie Sonic's characterization is the best representation of Sonic in the entire franchise for some reason. it's always either this, goon posting or ship warfare and it feels purposely meant to keep the general in a constant state of rage and anger.
>>583367776You sound like a seething IDWfag.
>>583367776this is the only place I talk about anything Sonic related, and I tend to filter most of the dramaposting and hide what slips through
I'm fine with IDW characters being OOC but tsundere Surge has to die. That specific one has gone too far.
Why does it have to look like this?There are bigger games on weaker platforms that look better than this
>>583367776What do you want to discuss? Games? New ones are shit. Comics? Also shit.
>>583367959Ok bestie
>>583367967It was made by 10 people on a budget while desperately asking for an extra year to their boss threatening to fire them
>>583367776>self reinforcement feedback loopingThis is literally how every community works, my guy.
>>583368012Fuck off
>check Twitter>Violet is flinging shit at Krack again>mentions /sthg/ directlyViolet, why the fuck are you even here? No one likes you. Stop trying to make Twitter faggots come here.
>>583367959Unfortunately, it's too late for Surge.Her character has been degraded to the point of "friendly rival" with only lingering morsels of 'I hate Sonic' left in her which fuels this shit.Don't blame the shippers, blame the writers for ruining one of the few good villainous characters they could have had.
>>583367664The games are not a perfect IC bible. Jpshills are schizo
>>583368098They should both fuck off and die
>>583367967Crazy taxi also looks like shit so itβs just a sega thing
>>583368098Why are you talking about this? No one gives a shit.
>>583368384Crazy Taxi mentioned!You're full of shit by the way, the World Tour beta looked good.
>>583367967>Why does it have to look like this?
>>583368503Played like ass, they removed gear shifting, obstacles no longer kill momentum, it uses FSR for some reason
>>583368224My standards>game characters must be in-character to any of the games >OCs from the comics shouldn't even be here>if they are here I don't care how badly you rape them. Better yet make them OOC to spite the shitty comics. Turn Tangle into a cockloving whore >fuck all westshit crap like "mobians"
>>583368570I wish they'd go back to making alternate versions for weaker hardware
>>583368570Why doesnβt it look as good Zelda then?
>>583368637Add >game characters must be consistent and in-character within the games
You lost. Soon every IDW OC will be in the game.
>>583368728The people who made Zelda also made the Switch. They know how that thing works, they have all the documentation and experience working with it earlier than anyone else
>>583368728Because Nintendo made Zelda for a single system's specs and Sega had to homogenize for six different platforms at release. If you look at the early Frontiers footage we saw a few weeks(?) ago, you'll notice how much better the environmental details were before they had to dumb it down.
>>583368647No one bought them besides making a version for the deck alone would be crazy
I want Cosmo in the games and in the movies
>>583363978>That kind of stops working if the player can't trust the game to be consistent about that.You're right, I didn't think of that. >It's why all the most popular stages in the series are the ones that are more automated spectacle or just the first level, and why people complain about Sonic levels being "cheap" or "unfair/too hard" when they actually ask you to engage with the platforming and gameplay.It's a shame, some of my favorite stages are the ones that often receive complaints or are disliked. Stages like Star Light or Frog Forest, which have less punishing hazards without being too easy are also nice, but I can't imagine those games without their harder stages.
Cosmo is shit.
>>583368728BotW and TotK is cel-shaded and stylized. It doesn't rely on realism to look good like Frontiers does. Without the realism Frontiers looks dull as shit.Switch 2 is also more powerful so they can make the next Zelda look like Unreal Engine slop now.
>>583368827>>583368813Why doesnβt it look as good as Witcher 3 then?
>>583368847>for the deck aloneSwitch, Switch 2, and maybe Deck.Though they did make DS or 3DS only versions, I don't see what's so crazy about that.They even made a PS2/Wii version once.
>>583368586Oh you're talking about gameplay not visuals. Okay.I agree the dumbing down of gear shifting to just action button+accelerate/break etc. sucks and they definitely need to tone down how you can just send other cars flying with no real penalty upon collision. I also wish the cars bounced a lot more like they did in the original games, wacky physics and all.But even with the casualisation, I had a good time with it. I need this, man.
>>583368928Fuck you bitch
None of the games are OOC. Stop forcing your headcanon.
>>583368998Deck is much weaker than Switch 2, youβd also have to include Series S in there too because of how weak it is
>>583368979I daresay you may be underestimating what has to be done to get a game working on that piece of shit.
>>583368647this confuses and baffles Dinesh from Mumbai
>>583369098Unleashed Colors Lost World Forces and Frontiers, all OOC
>>583366746>>583367131>>583368637>>583369098>>583368073Interesting samefaggotry.
>>583369128Yeah that looks better and runs better than Frontiers on Switch, and it actually has stuff in its world map.Hell Sega has no excuse either when Frontiers looks worse than Xenoblade on the Wii
I make my own canon
If Sonic turned evil, everyone should apologize to Lanolin
>>583369228How?
>>583369270>Yeah that looks betterThat is HIGHLY debatable.
>>583369348Not reallyFrontiers on Switch 2 runs at a similar resolution to Witcher on Switch 1
mods the brown people are here
>There are people ITT against this
It's simple>Things I likeCanon>Things I don't likeNot canonKinda like what christians do with the testaments.
Mods, the spaniard is losing its composure. Remove it.
>>583369404>Favourite Books>Sonic, Twokinds, Shen Comix"She" didn't forget it.
>583369404>AI spammer is a third worlder ding ding ding!
>>583369623Nah, we're all pretty much in favour of in-character Amy. It's twitter/IDW fags losing their mind about her "being a stalker again".
>>583369326Sonic = quipping jokesterTails = wimpy cowardKnuckles = jobbing retardAmy = melodramatic bore
>>583369579>>583369657>>583369708Yeah I see one right here -Shoots you- you're not welcome here.
>>583369651Christians aren't humans beings. Methodists and Protestants aren't real humans.
>>583369623>>583369760Who the fuck are you talking to
How it feels to post here during vitriol hours
Itβs really only Sega who couldnβt figure out multiplatform development, or optimization in general.Capcom and Square are killing it and theyβre considered Segaβs equals.
https://www.deviantart.com/plantynhttps://www.deviantart.com/micktrap397Get out.
>>583369883Fuck off
>>583370087One day I'll buy 4chan and raise the age limit to 30.Then these fortnite loving kids can fuck off back to their youtube comments and discords or whatever.
Today has been a splendid back and chest day
>>583370210Did you take your meds?
>>583370110But Sega did it pretty well with the Persona ports to PC and even put P3R on Game pass. Also the Yakuza ports
>>583370087shipfags trying to kill each other over who is the most OOC is really annoying
>>583370376Fuck off, Plantyn.
>>583370454Bestie, please, tell me you took your meds :(
>>583370415Those ports had tons of problems, persona had tons of memory leak issues, effects that just didnβt work, took years of patching before they finally gave up, hell they admitted they had no choice but to give up on P3R on Switch which is why P4R on Switch got delayed.
>>583370259post chest or gtfo
Do this
>>583370527https://www.deviantart.com/plantynhttps://www.deviantart.com/micktrap397Read it, gen-alpha.
>>583370739I keep forgetting sega is porting metaphor to switch which on paper seems like a smart idea until you realize itβs launching next to ZeldaZelda is the reason we donβt get original handheld games of Sonic anymore
>>583369651>>583369829>t. rabbi who thinks a fishing line is like a roof
>>583370415>Also the Yakuza portsLet's maybe not start giving too much credit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f11taYHSoM
>>583370739Oh well nevermind then
Shouldn't it be obvious that Iizuka doesn't give a shit about Sonamy
>>583371157>noooo who cares what iizuka thinks he doesn't care about the fans and bows for westerners to insert their girl boss shit>noooooo who cares about what that fugitive yuji naka said 30 years ago?? he doesn't understand sonic
>>583371353this but unironically
>>583370739>Sega announces Persona 3 Reload is coming to Switch 2>date isnβt launch so hype quickly dropped>devs come out and actually brag about how little effort was put into the port saying barely anyone worked on it and their goal was to get it out asap>game launches broken at 30fps with visuals drastically reduced>Sega decides this is a triumph and sends the devs to do the media circuit >every member of the press asked why it looked like shit and ran like shit compared to Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, and Cyberpunk>they panic and start saying how they shouldnβt be compared to big companies and that they might be able to fix it>they drop the resolution in docked and unlock he framerate before abandoning it>now Sega isnβt allowing Atlus to do major press for Metaphor which is launching at a terrible time
Y'all still gay?
Of all the characters who did nothing wrong, she did the least wrong.
>>583371567ye
Next BoC issue at 15th October?
Sega is a small companyStop comparing them to big companies
Whenever someone asks a member of Sonic Team, they give some explanation similar to "Sonic isn't interested in relationships because he wants to run" and Amy fags use snippets of these interviews to insult other ships even though it clearly implies Amy is also never going to date him because nobody is.
Is there any reason why the Sonic CD 2011 Decomp needs you to manually create the whole thing from scratch meanwhile Sonic 1 Forever and Sonic 2 Absolute everything is already decompile and you only need to put the RSDK file inside the folder to start playing?Why is that?
>>583371567i'm gay for silver's femboy ass, i want to hear him yell as i pound him into oblivion
Oh whoopdy doo, someone WAS using an IP keylogger on here. I knew it was fucking weird that this place was randomly pinging my IP. Holy shit.
>>583371446So sega is fucking up persona as well? yakuza? rekt. persona? rekt. sonic? on movie life support because everything else got rekt
>>583371567Yeah
>>583371567>>583371696>>583371838We know you're ugly women , so quit it. And no I don't want to see your ugly brown tits, I just ate.
This arc feels like the very definition of what I can best describe as rage-bait huntingAnd ABT's going to be illustrating the next issue, God help us
We talk about the worst characterfags but who are the best ones.
>>583372063Evan literally cannot write Silver without rage baiting in some way. Even in these issues she managed not to make him OOC in any way and still found a way to piss off fans.
>>583372198>rage baitingWhat the fuck are you talking about, zoomer?
>>583372151Babylon Rogue chads
>>583366023Sure, yeah. Like how Blazefags are about Silver.
>>583372151Barryfag, Rotorfag, Dragofag easily.
>>583372063Blaze in IDW (drawn by ABT)
>>583371426You can like sonamy is long as you are aware it's ooc crackship
>>583371798>Sonic CD 2011 DecompWhat version of that are you using
>>583372063Blazekeks mad!
Americans don't know how to be genuine in anything, just being mad and making others mad
>>583372264https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HateSinkThis is how Blackwood feels like he's written
>>583371871>an IP keylogger>pinging my IPWhat are you even talking about.
>>583372063What's the point to censor the twitter user like that? Who are you protecting? If you wanna share just the art, just download and upload it here.
I still don't understand what the entire point of this scene was other than tortureporn for the sake of it.
>>583372063I can understand Blazefag disappointment over her being less focused on (mostly cuz Dapple took focus) but i don't understand the rest of it being especially bad, we know jobbing and bad action scenes are regular for IDW, and we also know that blaze without someone holding her back can let her guard down, what exactly is especially bad about this compared to any other IDWslop?
>>583372003I'm a man though
>>583372443Why don't you just say "troll" instead of "rage baiting"?
>>583372282Now Imagine her having berserk mind-controlled faces drawn with ABTs uncomfortable detail
>>583372475This was the issue they baited Sonic's friends were totally mad at him for letting Eggman go because oh my Batman vs Joker dilemma that never goes anywhere
>>583366118I don't agree with thos take but I also dont even think it matters because people do not owe it to IDWspergs to treat the characters with equal respect as the game cast.FFS people dont even treat the game cast equally amongst eachother.
>>583371882Anything Sega touches goes to shitThat Shinobi revival they made, they launched it right next to the ninja Gaiden 2d revival, and right as switch 2 launched with no switch 2 version.Just a few weeks ago they relaunched the game on switch 2 but no one heard about it obviously.
>>583372198It was mostly blazefags raging and they rage everytime she appears nowadays anyway. non issue
>>583372457Someone has been pulling the IPs posting on here. They're probably doing it by pinging the IPs individually via captcha since 4chan hides the sender's IP by default. Basically someone in here is trying to track and possibly dox someone or some people.
>silver fans keep saying I don't understand his rich character>try to research the character and include deep cut japanese lore>suddenly JP purists are saying I copied it from a fanfiction and that I put some guy's headcanon into the main continuity
>>583372475You answered your own questionMetal Virus really set the spastic tone for this entire comic
>>583372270I distinctly remember a Jetfag coming here and shitting everyone around here just because someone asked if there's such thing as a Jetfag (might've been a falseflag though). There are no Wave and Stormfags.
>>583372702You realize that you need access to 4chan's servers to see people's IP addresses, right?
>>583372702Whoa sounds like another security issue from this failure dumpster of a website
>>583372713This should be the clearest sign to just forget Shitver altogether. Blaze too
>ask cosmo to smoke a chunk of her hair>5 minutes later:https://youtube.com/watch?v=4I6J0hOXgeQ
>>583372808That means Anon has been evading his bans and is on the way to an IP range ban.
>>583372475In the early 2020s torture porn was considered good writing. hell for most of the 2010s. that's why people like the last of us >>583372697blazefags won't be happy until she's the fucking protagonist
>>583368570This is why Sonic Team needs to drop the Nintendo Switch. Stop downgrading the games' graphics, lighting, and frame rate on Playstation, Xbox, and PC just so the Nintendo Switch is able to run it
>>583372463I wanted to screencap the text above the post, and anons here think you're plugging when you share links but I guess I can't win with you fuckheadshttps://x.com/Artboy3Caleb/status/2106571332846784902
>>583372475That scene was rendered at a time when IDW's status as game canon was still dubious and it was being written as a more apparent spiritual successor to Archie. Or at least that's how I understand it.
>>583372893If it's who I think it is, then I hope so. I still think it's schizo nonsense though, and that he doesn't check connections to his IP constantly. They'd just ban his range if they wanted.
What was wrong with Sonic Universe and making everyone look competentWhy IDW has to make everyone dumb and weak
>>583372949I don't think Sonic can afford to drop a whole console market.
>>583372475>>583372608Actual shit garbage writing all the way around.>>583372774>Metal Virus really set the spastic tone for this entire comicI hate to say it, but yeah.
>>583367967What if I like Sonic's world looking like this?
I can't take the metal virus seriously because the zombies just look like cute cartoons and dobson the bear and I'm a 26 year old man
>>583372713Evan doubled down on making Silver uwu with her own headcanons about Silver having a second personality according to low-stakes and high-stakes conflict. Obviously this is made up and not implied in the games at all.
>Decades of nothing>IDW cums>Cucked out of Neo fight >Did nothing during Metal Virus >Hypno'dThe queen of jobbers! Please retire this pathetic excuse of a character. At this point, she only exists for muh shipping tism.
>>583368098Why do you keep calling Creamtranny that weird name
>>583373153Silver didn't have a split personality in 89 or 90
>>583372923>blazefags won't be happy until she's the fucking protagonistA 1-2 issue story where she's In her own dimension and/or not paired with Silver would be a good start
>>583373046Most kids play on PlayStation, by dropping Switch they'd just miss out on the IDW fans and the nostalgiafags who hate all the new games don't buy them anyway.
>>583373065Empty and low poly?
>>583372713>>583373153You say this shit every single threadEVERYSINGLETHREAD
>>583373201Nah she needs to become Silver's wife and breed some psychic/fire babies for him.
>>583373240If most kids played on PlayStation theyβd be the market leaderMost kids donβt have a console, theyβre mobile only
>>583372774>>583373014> Metal Virus really set the spastic tone for this entire comicCase and pointEven now that the comic is considered 'canon', they're still fucking up with things like Sage's introductionDoesn't help that the American SEGA branch is trying to commandeer the franchise from Japan
>>583350872
>>583373147You don't think this is scary?
>>583372151>characterfags>best>let alone goodNo such thing. Being a characterfag means you are bound to be so mentally ill down to making shitstorms to everyone around all for whiteknighting pixels on the screen, especially with putting down other characters they don't give a shit, even getting them wrong on process. Blazefags, Silverfags, Amybesties, Krack, Violet are pretty much walking examples of that.You can have a favorite character without being a characterfag. It just takes you minimum common sense and not being autistic, but that's asking a lot sadly.
>>583372949>This is why Sonic Team needs to drop the Nintendo SwitchThey have been trying that hard to make the japs play sonic. dropping the switch goes against what they want
>>583373238The Sol thing is literally a mandate, and she had issues where she wasn't with silver and people either didn't care about them or shipfagged.
>>583372713I believe nobody cares about this fanfic coming to canon, Randombox
>>583373228Okay? Clearly Evan is writing him with the intention of giving him two personalities so those issues are an exception because of her high-stakes conflict reasoning.https://www.tumblr.com/spiritsonic/819864496360325120/hey-evan-please-dont-have-silver-be-scared-and>>583373354This is my first time talking about this.
>>583372151ChaotixGODS
>>583373432Sony is the market leader in Europe, but in the US and Japan itβs Nintendo.Hell the fucking US government told Sony that they arenβt the leader in the US when the claimed you canβt survive without CoD on your platform
>>583373614lol
>>583373238The Sol dimension has nothing, it might as well not exist, its elements have been rejected by writers and fans alike, its funcionally Blaze's cuck shed to excuse why she can't be around all the time
>>583373614
>>583373201>>583373414Just pair her with Sonic againor Knuckles
>>583373201I think Blaze the Cat is cool.
>>583357871based scourge
Meme Virus was shit. The zombies? Also trash.
>>583373743Vectorfags don't exist and they just prop up behind Vector for gooning Vanilla.Espiofag is a w*man, enough said.Charmyfags do not exist and Maekawa said that as a joke.
>>583373614> MOM HOLY FUCK
IDW trying to be serious and melodramatic all the fucking time won't work with the stakes low
>>583372923saw has existed since 2004
>American SEGA branch is trying to commander the franchise from JapanWhy isn't Iizuka doing anything about it? In fact, he's been an executive at the American branch since 2023 and is the leader of Sonic Team. Can't he stop it?
ABT draws every Sonic female with a look in their eyes like they want cock in the next 9 seconds or they're going to take it for themselves and I'm okay with that.
>>583373737There were lower stakes in 89-90 too, they didn't immediately know something was wrong before silver checked up on Dapple.will you say she corrected him if her writing of silver continues past this arc?
>>583372475That's it. That's what it was for. Twisting the knife, references and "plot spackle". Thats Ian's whole claim to fame.
>>583374094Iizuka is a race traitor
>>583374032Saw is literal torture porn. 2020s torture porn writing is mistaking suffering for depth. That's why people keep acting like Arcane was ever a good show.
>>583374094sega of japan has fucked up yakuza and are fucking up persona. so it's cooked either ways. also allow me to make it clear that sonamy is a crackship
>>583374198He's the reason I still even give IDW the time of day.
>>583373682>The Sol thing is literally a mandateI'm believing the mandate bullshit less and lees as time goes on and more dirty shit leaks out from the staff>>583373682> she had issues where she wasn't with silver and people either didn't care about them or shipfaggedaccording to who?>>583373769>The Sol dimension has nothingYou have a whole game that proves otherwise.> its elements have been rejected by writers and fans alikeThat's such absolute bullshit I can't even take you seriously
>>583372307I already have the 1.3.2 Windows version with the Origins Plus dlc but that one I just downloaded from the youtuber Nobody321's drive link so I didn't need create it myselfProblem is that I want a Linux version which you need to use the Konsole command to make it. I tried to write down the exact same commands as another person did but it didn't workThat's why I am asking why the Sonic CD 2011 Decomp in particular doesn't just have most of it decompiled when you download it with you only need to insert the RSDK fileI already have 4 other Linux versions of decomps and those only require you to insert 1 single file to play
the sonic franchise should be written like Hostel
>>583374205>will you say she corrected him if her writing of silver continues past this arc?If it continues no matter what stakes the conflict has then yes.What that would mean is that what Evan says in her tumblr post clearly contradicts her writing in the actual comic so her public reasoning behind Uwuver writing is wishy-washy and can't be trusted.
secret santa gift for Blaze
You guys actually hate Evan too much. She wrote 1(1) character OOC and the only reason she was able to do that is because Sega doesn't care what happens to him in the first place
>>583374271Same with Invincible
>>583374504Invincible is a perfect example
>>583373284Rails, springs, dashpanels and platforms everywhere
>>583374342People didn't talk about when she was paired with tangle, tails and amy and when she was paired with sonic people used it to argue about her having a crush on sonic. I believe their mandateshit specifically for this because it's some undefined area they don't want gaijins to expand on their own.
>>583374495I dislike Evan for a different set of reasons
>join Sonic to survive in Japan>die
Blaze exists to prep the villain bulls. She's like a Metal Sonic, but on the heroes' side.
>>583374495>the only reason she was able to do that is because Sega doesn't care what happens to him in the first placeMaybe the writers should actually learn what happens in the games then. By, you know, playing them.
>>583373635But enough about Surgefags
>fans defending the character from a retard that doesn't get the character its bad because.....STOP attacking Evan!! (doesnt even care and just pretend to be on her side because contrarian)>>583374713also this , she deserves the mockery
>>583374342Good job posting the game that flopped and did almost nothing to Blaze's character in the fandom's eyes. Marine is an unpopular character. Nobody cares about fucking Johnny and Captain Whiskers.
>Metal Virus fucked up the tone of the whole comicOkay, but the first Smurfs story (as an independent comic and not as side characters) was also a zombie story. Why were the Smurfs able to pull off a zombie storyline so early in their publication history while IDW Sonic wasn't?
Sonic owns a Switch 2
Fuck Sonic
>>583374094>>583373486>>583374225Krack, please, take meds. I know it's you with your ESL high school dropped grammar.
>>583374480Idk why are you fixated on this, do you expect her to publicly apologize so you win? especially considering many people did uwuver on official products before her.
no one gave a shit Blaze met Surge after blazefags celebrated like they won a world cup by the way.
>>583371620Simp
Cope
>>583374819These are also good walking examples too, I remember it all in the past. There's tons of characterfags infamous, I just can't bother to list them all obviously, I'm not ChatGPT.
>Amy >love girl>more discussion is about her character getting used>Blaze>Surge>cool "rival" girl characters>literally all discussion about them is just shipping and clout relatedMake it make sense.
>>583374965>do you expect her to publicly apologizeevan robotnik already did this
>>583375081>blazefagsThere's no such thing. Blazefags = Silverfags who ship him with Blaze.
>>583374961
>>583374323I know they're fucking up Yakuza, but Persona? How so?
>>583372808Did you not read what I posted. Normally you can't see who's posting what with what IPs unless you have admin access. You can bypass this by keylogging or "phishing" for data through the captcha. That's how the sharty got ahold of the admin password and shut the site down. You can use basically the same exploit to log IPs that post on a specific thread.>>583372893What does literally anything I say have anything to do with what you said?
>>583375263Surge shipping is astroturfed and blaze isn't actually special in the shipfag department, its just that people are more ''protective'' of her so ironically raging at random shipfags or fandom woes more than actual writing makes her discussion more shipping focused than ignoring it like literally all other characters.
>>583374965You are being really disingenuous. No, I don't expect an "apology." I'm pointing out how the reasoning behind her writing for Silver is unsupported by any evidence. Her high-stakes and low-stakes conflict reasoning makes no sense. Not sure why it bothers you so much that I'm pointing this out.>especially considering many people did uwuver on official products before her.So I'm not allowed to talk about Evan because other people do it. Right.Your obvious deflection is obvious. You just want us to stop talking about Evan for whatever reason.
>>583375453Oh you're a bestie, I see. >>583370210Just as bad.
>>583375353Nah this era is over, the reddit and twitter is mostly sonaze or just general waifufagging focused.
>>583375353She's a fucking cat princess with fire powers, she doesn't need a ship to have fans
>>583373414Based.
>>583375717>she doesn't need a ship to have fans>she doesn't need a shipWell, that's all there is. Blaze has no real fans.
>>583375263>>Amy >>love girl>>more discussion is about her character getting usedAre you blind? Amy is literally as much as, if not more talked here for shipping shit and imagining boogeymans with muh soa muh chriz hernandez and shit. Sonamybesties especially keep doing this.
>>583375701>Nah this era is over, the reddit and twitter is mostly sonaze or just general waifufagging focused.I mostly see silvaze there, but either way blaze is just shipping fodder, no one cares about the sol dimension anymore
>>583373825Knuckles has better people to pair up with like literally everyone else
>>583374965Maybe Evan should stop making public posts defending her own writing choices. It's no wonder people fixate on her over others. IDW writers being active on social media and constantly responding to discourse is a mistake.
>>583374961>>583375575> muh krack> *gets proven wrong twice*> Uh...uh...Sonamy bestie!
I feel bad about IDW because it's true the early era of IDW is over. No more Uwuver or Vulnerablenic. Both of those things are super dead but fans keep seething
I swear you guys act like talking in circles about the same things every day is supposed to manifest something.
>>583374342CopeShitaze is very irrelevant with a fandom that has "deserves everything like Sonic" complex
>>583375882All female characters are like thisAmy= crush on sonic or notRouge=boobs or shadouge knuxouge discussionMaria=ship or siblingWhisper and Tangle=Whispangle good or badfemale characters that don't have shipping material like wave or cream? no one talks
>>583375975>No more Uwuver or VulnerablenicSonic barely appears in his own fucking comic to begin with, he's practically a side character atp
sonicbros...https://x.com/Part_Time_Faux/status/2106422696309379377
>>583375964>implying it's not krack with changed background theme
>>583368098Krack herself mentions /sthg/ off site so I don't see why it's suddenly worse when I do it. It's not like I was discussing 4chan as a 'secret club', others already brought up 4chan. My point was to challenge the claim that '4chan is only populated by low lives and losers' when that's objectively untrue. We have numerous people, like Slashy, who work in the industry and have had connections with IDW and SEGA employees, even offering them networking in the past. My point wasn't to 'recruit off-siters to sthg' (though krack, swlu, and election tourists do a great job at that by themselves), my point was to challenge a specific claim that '4chan is delusional for thinking it has influence or contact with the industry/SEGA' when that is demonstrably untrue after 4chan was already brought up by someone else.I don't see how it's 'flinging shit' to acknowledge stuff that's public. Krack herself flings shit constantly both here and elsewhere. She's the main reason these twitter users even know of /sthg/'s existence anyways, her and Slashy, so I don't know why you single out me when I'm not one to unpromptedly bring up sthg off-platform unless someone else makes it relevant. Like, what, do you think this is 2012 and 4chan is somehow 'secret'? This site has been public knowledge forever at this point and it's fully metastasized into popular culture. I doubt Krack or most of her sycophants have been on this site long or even discovered it organically. I have nowhere near the following or reach of Krack, who also discusses sthg and 4chan frequently, more than I do.In regards to 'people liking me', I don't care. This is an anonymous image board. I'm here to talk about Sonic, not get lost in popularity contests.
>>583375975Only IDW fans are seething about this meanwhile Sonic fans are rejoicing
Ooooh, I get it.It's just a handful of tards who want to call each other slurs but don't want it tied to their public profile. Lol. What a bunch of spineless cowards you are.
>>583375508>Surge shipping is astroturfedEhhhhh>blaze isn't actually special in the shipfag department, its just that people are more ''protective'' of her so ironically raging at random shipfags or fandom woes more than actual writing makes her discussion more shipping focused than ignoring it like literally all other characters.I don't think that's true. Blazefags claim they want her doing things outside of being arounf Silver but only show up for Blaze when it involves shipping discourse or Silver.Blaze had a whole story where she hangs out with Tails and Amy but none of em talk about it.Even the newer Sylvania Arc, they were fine with it and even enjoying it until Blazewood caught fire.
I wouldn't discuss anything with that blazeschizo in good faith.
>>583375882>Amy is literally as much as, if not more talked here for shipping shit and imagining boogeymans with muh soa muh chriz hernandez and shit. Amy's love for Sonic is about the integrity of her character, not just shipshit. There is a difference. You're doing that thing where you treat love as nothing more than the pretense for shipping.
>>583375903In terms of fanart spamming but the discussion is mostly general waifufags schizo'ing about IDW treatment of her being about 06.I don't really think she's anymore ship focused than other characters including male ones but all female character discourse devolves into this in sonic fandom.
>>583375964> muhWhy did you put a space there? Are you a retard?
Sonic the Hedgehog after just beating Wally West in a death race gets all the Super Emeralds and turns into Hyper Sonic and stacks the Cyber power from the Starfall Islands on top of that, and then just snaps and goes evil and attacks everyone as a raw, unstoppable force of pure chaos. Whose gonna stop him?Tails.
>>583376168He's right. look at that round blue hedgehog
>>583373238So just like in Archie? i agree
>>583375508>astroturfedI literally do not see Surge discussed on here or twitter anymore unless its shipping related. She was supposed to be the next big rival but nobody cares about her the way they cared about Shadow or Metal. They don't even care about her like they cared about the freedom fighters. They just want to fuck her or watch other characters fuck her.
>>583376351when his stance is just "this character can do NOTHING fun or interesting", best thing is to ignore himlike most of the utilitarians here
>>583376484SEGA because that behavior would be out of character and go against the mandates, exekiddie.
>>583375717she had two great fun games and all the people care is pic related
This general is filled with blackpillers
Looks like Violet mentioning this place has made Twitterfags come here. This is why you autists aren't supposed to reveal your power level on other sites. Fucking dumb niggers.
>>583376115True. It's just sad how goonerbrainded and ship obsessed people here and on xitter are.>>583376438Not what I'm implying, bestie. Get your glasses.
You can tell Rapeficbitch isn't here anymore because she would be having an absolute field day with the tranny and Krack. I miss her.
who the fuck is violet
>>583376481That's the best defense you have?Are you a faggot?
>>583375717We already have princesses and characters with fire powers, why would we care about her apart from being another female?
>>583375098Yes
How do we scare Xitterfags......Yeah, I know how
>>583376092While I agree...but enough about Silver
>>583376273That's what i meant though, fandomfags shipfag about everything without people taking it seriously, like people were posting about Sonadow whenever an issue was sonic and shadow focused lol, but people just ignored it, even with silver x blackwood people ignored it. but blazefags in particular care wayyy too much about random people shipping her with silver/blackwood/a random character while other characterfags don't care about it unless the writing blatantly pushes it. but that ironically causes her discourse to be more ship focused than ignoring shipfags.
>>583376569Still better than most of IDW
So I guess /sthg/ isn't REALLY to talk about Sonic and games.I hate women so goddamn much.
>>583376451>I don't really think she's anymore ship focused than other characters>Still doesn't get itI will use layman terms then; Blaze fandom consists SOLELY of shipping. Every other character(be it male or female) has smth else to talk about.Get it?
>>583376768>Not what I'm implying, bestie. Get your glasses.Yes it was? The original post said people argue about her actual character while the "cool girl" characters are the ones people argue about for shipping.
>>583376973Shut your dumbass down before i throw you again pussy
>>583376896>We already have princesses and characters with fire powersThey don't count, faggot
>>583376702Krack did the same thing. You have to hate both or you are a Krack simp.
Last Barry of the thread
>>583377050Same for all generals, really. Try to talk on /ffg/ about any FF that isn't the mediocre VIIR, and you'll get answers that are basically "yeah your game is bad BUT that game I hate is even worse". They never STFU about how much they hate the 10/10 FFXVI.
>>583377152Okay but since when do we actually care about disabled people, Krack?
>>583377106>Blaze fandom consists SOLELY of shipping. Every other character(be it male or female) has smth else to talk about.What does that make Silver's fandom?
>>583374713I've been reading IDW a lot lately trying to get through everything and I've been thinking about this since Belle showed up. Between this and the way Ian describes Sonic as cool, I think the major issue with IDW is that none of the writers know what being cool is. Like, don't get me wrong, I think I get what Evan is trying to say here. But what she's talking about doesn't make Belle "cool." And that's the problem.
>>583377191They have more appearances more popularity and are more important than shitaze?
Last Rabby of the thread.He's Barry but evil.You can call him Rabby Hood.
>>583377168>pic relatedLOLAlso Shitverfags are still guilty of the same complex.
Can someone enlighten me about what bad things windii did?No i don't care about her liking sonadow or which gender the person she dates is, i mean real bad things.
>>583377291>FFXVI>10/10
>>583377320YWNBAM Windii. You will always be a sub 3 roastie.
>>583377513>>583377513>>583377513
>>583377508She made a better translation of a manga than Krack because she actually knows Japanese and the thread liked it more.
>>583377385NTA but Silver's fandom is half shipping and half writing how he could be written and concepts for him. The "potential stuff" literally saved Silver from being all shipping. Double edged sword.
>>583377508Nothing she's just kind of presumptuous on the internet and she can be rude about prior fan translations being 'bad' and relies on machine translation as a part of her translation process and uses literal translation.This entire drama is being astroturfed by Krack.
>>583377508I don't really want to get into all the details but basically she regularly shits on other translators (even during a professional gig with Discotek, and including someone on social media with a physical disability that she made fun of) and also stole a bunch of credit for translation work on the wiki(s?).
>>583377469> Elise only appears in one game> More appearances and popularityI'm not taking you seriously anymore
>>583377538Pot calling kettle black, Krack.
>>583375483>You can bypass this by keylogging or "phishing" for data through the captcha.That's not a thing.>That's how the sharty got ahold of the admin password and shut the site down. You can use basically the same exploit to log IPs that post on a specific thread.False. The guy who did it exploited a vulnerability in how 4chan interpreted uploaded .pdf files on certain boards. It's been patched since the site came back online.
>>583372475That's exactly what it was, Ian Flynn even said it was his favorite arc in the comic because he got to torture the cast and make people be mad at Sonic for it and went on a bit of a tangent about how he wasn't allowed to do certain things, like Cream's fight with Zeena he wanted to have Zeena pull cream up by her ears and go to punch her and that's when Gemerl would interfere or how he wanted Whisper to take the shot but accidentally hit Amy rather than Eggman and how he actually wanted Sonic to punch Espio in that scene but stop short of remembering hitting espio will infect him and espio to taunt him over it. Americans are fucking freaks with no love in their hearts, only sadism, cynism and bitterness because they know their country is fucked it's too corrupt to be saved, the citizens are beaten down despairers who cope with AI bots and those at the top are so rich that they've become drug addicts to more wealth and power, the fucking Squid games are gonna start being a thing soon just because the rich get off watching those dirty poors struggle, it's a fucked up nation, Japan needs to get away from the US but sadly the moment they do so, China's gonna take them over it's all fucked globally and some guy is gonna use the alfred quote from the Batman movie about wanting to watch the world burn down and dance on the ashes like it makes them deep and above the fray GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
>>583377639Not wrong but silverfags are more productive and could actually do research explain to evan how he was mischaracterized and how he could be utilized clearly to her even if some were autistically annoying about it. which in turn improved her writing. I can't really imagine blazefags being able to properly voice criticism at large.
>KRACK KRACK KRACK KRACK
>>583378015>or how he wanted Whisper to take the shot but accidentally hit Amy rather than EggmanThere is absolutely no way he said this. I refuse to believe it without proof.
>>583373825Why are her hips so pronounced here?
>>583375956>IDW writers being active on social media and constantly responding to discourse is a mistake.The best thing a creative can do is to not be active on social media. No parasocial anything ever.
>>583378284ABT
Slashy is doing it again?
>>583378115Dude, there's a reason Sega finally stepped in and made Flynn get Sonic out of his mouth on his stupid podcast, what's funnier still is that as soon as he stopped stalking sonic views of the bumblecast crumbled and people stopped giving a damn, Flynn is probably one of those people who deeply resent that he's only gonna ever be known as the sonic guy for better or worse and lashes out about it, especially since Sega won't let him monetize his position anymore meanwhile Sega hasn't had to bother Evan once and she hardly has to change anything or report to sega like Flynn did, the only time IDW really has to deal with Sega is when they want to feature Shadow in something because Inzuka wants to make sure they get his super cool OC just right, you know what that means, right? Shadow jobbing to Starline, Shadow being owned by Metal Sonic, Shadow randomly in the middle of the road to meet Amy, Shadow being guilt tripped about his actions in his 05 game, Shadow Fall being shelved for later use? Shadow casually taking Rogue's drive getting what he needs from it and breaking it?, Shadow threatening sonic at sword point? All of that is Inzuka, the only thing that little bitch complained about is Shadow taking that sword out of a performer's mouth, he complained, that it. Hell, the one suggestion sega told them was okay to do yet they don't want to is they could add more Zeti to the comics not the deadly six and something tells me they told the blade of courage guy he could do that because you cannot tell me those demons are not zeti coded with those personalities they have and how completely removed they are from the god Sonic and Yuta defeated with the hottie ghost princess who just up and disappeared from the story afterwardsOh and Flynn continues throwing tantrums about Sticks for some god forsaken reason WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT HER? It's like he wants a Deadpool in this series
would you still play sonic games if he was actually cool ?
