The night elf AI-generated softporn spammer has been gutted! Thank you jannies for actually moderating /vg/. Back to >>>/trash/heals with you. Edition>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>News, dev podcast, dev blogpostshttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>When is it being released?November 4thYou can reserve your first-name + last-name combo starting October 27th.>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Horde (EU on release)<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA on release)<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA on release)old>>583327346
>>583345423wdym learning will be chill chose relaxed for normal peoplecompetitive will be the retards aka itt crying that theyre bored, that people are complaining about them hovering quest mobs
>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence>no dungeon exp>no dungeon mob exp>no new classes>bad balance classes>insane new gear power creep>shitty old gear>all leveling through quests>zero social aspects>unbalanced pvp>rogues top 1 dps because yes>all hybrids suck because hybrids>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted>ugly new elf race>new elf race breaks lore>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper>everyone still needs to be an engineer>endgame is still raidlog>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played>biggest streamer is a nazi>biggest streamer killed his own motheryep, they gave up on wow fogever
Today I will remind them.
>>583345512>fogever
why did blizzard try to deny horde warriors their class quest armor by blocking the path in RFK?
when did they add skating to forever?
Cancel this shit and give the volk what they desireFRESHVNDFASHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPyeavo2fkEHorde is Russia lol
Essential human female equipment.
>>583345482When you know you'll die any day now is it really that bad to want to have a smoke? Just let your parents have that before they go
>>583345592PvE
>>583345617We chuds like Forever. Look at Asmon's stream. Stop falseflagging us being haters. We wonny winny and we love Nublizzard Forever team doe
To those of you playing in the beta, does it actually feel like Classic? Does the new content fit the style and tone of vanilla or is it just a bastardization of Classic?
>>583345675>this will get me pussy for sure
>>583345493I suppose I should select learning if it's my first time doing the dungeon.
>>583345696>5 charges
Is Retail fun?
>>583345698When they're hooked up to a machine that has a high potential of exploding when they smoke yeah I'd say no
Any Hunterbros here? Those violet Tallstriders from the Zephyr Islands have an Atkspd of 1.3s and are tanks. They hit like a Dps tank, and also reduce armor while having a taunt, too.
ngl you can call me a stupid christcuck or whatever, but I have never played a warlock, never will, and quite honestly I question the character of anyone that does. Warlocks are satanists, and I seriously question anyone that chooses to play as a demonic mage over the other classes. I can't shake the idea that warlocks are inherently jewish frankists, and anyone playing as one is promoting it. It also doesn't help that warlocks tend to act in the most obnoxious manner out of all classes while in the world leveling. Worse than rogues, Warlocks almost always will break the tentative peace between factions in a questing area to the benefit of no one. I find Warlock players to often display sociopathic tendencies, and many prominent warlock main streamers also fit this.
I want to play a REAL worgen.
>>583345780>>583345493i dont think it changes anything, you just get listed in the same but its different when you mouse over a person
>>583345807pushing mythic keys is genuinely fun for a while
>>583345727The gameplay feels like classic, they have a good design team going, but their 3D art team is god awful and can't abide by the 2004 art direction for shit, not a single good 3D asset has been made so far except one armored furbolg
>>583345696using all 5 charges at once
>>583345603The face of a boy who gets nightly goth mommy /ss/
>>583345807as someone who knows nothing about wow lore, this is AI right?
>>583345905is this a reverse psychology advertisement for warlocks or something
>wof: gay wetlands dungeon with 3 bosses that it's over in 12 minutes>gay trinket drops that has a 10 minute cooldown and uses a RANDOM potion RANDOMLY (hearthstone cringe vibes)>turtlewow: epic wetlands dungeon that feels on the same level as BRD unironically>kino moment in the dungeon with broken stone stairs that feels like that lord of the rings scene>amazing loot that makes you ejaculate in your dreams thinking about your twinkswe didn't know how good we had it...
>>583345617Truth nvke
>>583345905>I find Warlock players to often display sociopathic tendencies, and many prominent warlock main streamers also fit this.At least that point is totally unarguable. Nastiest, most autistic people, every single time.
>>583345925Sorry. Worgen got retconned into being Night Elves that gooned too hard to gay furry porn.
>>583345989you get health, mana, both, swiftness or a potion that takes negative health
>>583345807for like a week or two it's alright. but the content outside of raids and m+ is truly pointless so it gets dull fast, there's no adventure anymore
>>583345979He got fucking mcnuked and his gf made it for him so he is slacking.Also Khadgar is like, a billion years old after getting magically aged.
>>583345807It is the very epitome of the phrase "themepark MMO"
Yeah I hellfire and top meters in every single dungeon, pick it up healcuck!
>>583345989A dev said their blackmaw hold dungeon will be massive, if it's a scam I riot
>>583345905Not everyone self inserts into their character. Also I can't even think of any warlock streamers I just realized. None of the big WoW streamers seem to play it.
If you're a prot warrior and you're forming your own dungeon group as you should as a natural born alpha, what's the ideal composition? I figure ret dps and druid healer for thorns and aura.
>>583345989>FageverCynical propagandistic jewish slop made by a corporation and exists as a strictly inferior copy of another product of said corporation.>TroondleLove project made by a biofoid for her mentally ill troon sisters.
>>583346080it feels like the same retarded mindset that ruined hearthstone "teehee random is so quirky chungus and funny let's make everything randomly generate things randomly"it fucking blows
>>583346216warrior dps pala healer hunter and a warlock
>>583346214Not big streamers per se, but it would be Staysafe, Chan, and Snutz. Who are all mean sociopaths, purely coincidentally.
Shaman sisters I forgot about the quests...
>>583346190>Dungeonwe don't do that in wow forever.dungeon spamming and leveling in dungeons is nazi retoilet shit we only do quests
>>583346082theres no adventure in Forever either
>>583346216Never inviting a single huntard.
>>583346216stack clothies so you get everything you need
>>583345989that dragonmaw 2 piece set bonus for 1% hit was omega kino on my 20-29 warrior>dual wield spec talent + those + warsong weapons as my dual wield set>literally turn into a auto attack buzzsaw, only use rage on piercing howl, rend (for rogues), and sunder armor spam>literally just chop people apart constantly even bear form druidsmost fun I had in low lvl pvp ever
Why do rogues have so many weapon skills unlocked from the rip?This severely hampers my autistic desire to cap out every weapon skill every level. >:(
>>583345718Asmon is a fakechud. He does not denounce the talmud.
>>583346075That's not a retcon. The original worgen were night elves. They only infected humans later on in Duskwood and Gilneas.As for the gay furry porn. That's certainly a possibility
>>583346496literally babby tier problemnow imagine capping that many weapon skills per lvl in vanilla EVERQUEStit's literally impossible
anyone know of an addon that lets you highlight items in your inv
>>583346532Denouncing the Talmud is brown leftist core and trannycoded in the modern era. Get with the times gramps. Right Wingers don't hate jews anymore since the islamo leftist alliance
>>583346539So strictly speaking, worgen are trolls?
>>583346626t. Tranny freak jew loving nigger
>>583345989>>583346229Must have stung Shenna when she lost her server to blizzard after spending years ddosing competitors in the private server community, you reap what you sow you greedy chinese loving whore.
>>583346571like the search function it already has?
>>583346627The og ones? Definitely trace back to trolls indeed. Although the ones we see im Silverpine and Duskwood apparently is more complex as we know in Classic the villages with the turning worgen at night become humans, not nelves. So tentatively yes but no
>if you exceed the dungeon level suggestion even by 1 the rest of the party gets no expHAHAHA
>>583346378certainly more adventure than picking up 5 quests to pull weeds from the ground and solve little puzzles made for actual toddlers then getting on your mount and flying across the map in 10 seconds to the next quests that there's no point in reading or caring about. delves are kind of cool a few times i guess
>>583345807I still play retail at the start of every patch and I can't explain it but there's something about it that just feels so stale and boring at this point that you just don't get from classic despite it being literally dead old content, it's fun for the first week of each patch then dies out, I think for me personally the game just lacks any sort of "midcore" contentyou login when the patch starts, get enough gear to raid without ever touching a single dungeon or interacting with another player, most patch cycles you then clear normal mode day one with zero effort then move on to clearing heroic which if you're pugging does take a few groups usually but after that there's just nothing to do, you outgear the open world content and it's not fun enough to do just for the sake of doing it, mythic raiding past the first few bosses requires a guild and time investment beyond what any classic raid takes, and mythic+ has never been fun to me I will never learn a skip route or engage with any of their other autism I tried it I hated it and I moved onand that's kind of it there's nothing else to do, I do find the initial clear of the raids to be fun but after that there's no reason to stick around, if it weren't for 20+ years of sunk cost I don't know that I'd still try it every patch, on the opposite end of that though I still enjoy doing classic dungeons and raids with my dad guild, gear being less disposable is I think a big part of it there's an actual sense of progression that just doesn't exist in retail and all of that is without getting in to the flavor changes and how disposable your characters feel with being able to spin one up and get it raid ready within a day vs the time investment of classic characters
>>583346737No like i want to put colored boarders around certain items permanently
>>583346807Source?Ive heard healing in dungeons with different levels in the group will have the healer heal less and less with each boss
>>583346216mage warlock priest boomkin
>>583346684Fuck you
>>583346887He's talking out his ass. For some reason someone is having a meltdown this morning itt because its very important to him that he convinced everyone not to play forever
>>583346190>so many wasted points in demo
More shaman races for alliance would be cool
>>583346871just put them in a separate bag?
>>583346871bagnon or baganator do that. i never remember which is the good one and which is the one that has tons of bugs that always prevents me from using items in my bags and giving lua errors constantly
>>583346839Imagine doing a raid with Jesus. Thats actually probably why you don’t like it.
>>583347008NELF shamans UNDEAD hunners
>>583347017>>583347010>>583347008>>583347007>>583346982>>583346948>BROOO I LOVE +1% HIT CHANCE IT MATTERS SOOOOO MUCH OMG YAAAAS MY ULTRARARRSHARTMOR GIVES ME 1% MORE CHANCE TO HIT AMD +5 FARTYWARTYSAUCE
>>583346934mage warlock priest won't get mad that i've sabotaged their experience by stacking the loot tables in my favor? yes they will and that's a good thing maybe switch one magelock with a rogue to create symmetrical tension and the illusion of equity
>>583346401Why not? They can't use your items but you can use theirs.
>>583346626>posting IDF propaganda in wowfg
>>583347008Not giving alliance a "pretty" race to play shaman is a really funny way to debuff them. Because women genuinely refuse to play anything ugly. Make night elves shamans and you'd have an overabundance
Forever needs a catgirl race
>>583346626>he fell for Jewish internet psyopsnot very smart are you
>>583346982>>583346887redditanother poster on the thread"We ended up 4 manning RFK and RoL because of this exp thing. Every dps that entered, rolled out because of no exp gain, even tho it was inconsequential. "
>>58334700715% health/more armor and healing 15% more fire damage and a good execute is a lot better than anything I would get in destro which is mostly pure single target. Also incinerate for some reason does not proc decimation so there's no reason to pick it up.
>>583347064Told you, retail tranny meltdown >>583347124Then you report as a bug and move on you spazz lol
>>583347057I have no fucking clue what you're trying to say
>>583346887thats also an issue, apparently
>>583346887Nta, but I just did RoL as 17 and there were 2x 22 in the party and I received 0 exp during the dungeon, nothing from mobs, not even from bosses.I knew the 22's would fuck me over, but absolutely nothing? That I didn't expect
fury warriasdo i just equip sword n board until 20 dw?
>>583347121To be fair the jews DID officially up their misinformation budget dramatically not long ago.
>>583347208>DONT MAKE FUN OF MY FARTTY WARRY SAUCE ARMOR! I LOVE CLASSIC OMGGG I LOVE MY BIGSHART TIER2 +1 STAMINAFARTING ARMOR
>>583347247I wonder what fucked up maths they're trying to do in order to have this happen. Like what is the goal here?
>>583347296this is the kind of braindead jeetcoding i've come to love in my vibe coded retail port
>>583347124>>583347247game releases in 30 months and literally everything is broken btwthey spent 2 years making this reheated game btw9999 billion dollar company btw$60 paid beta testing btwand you kids still eat this slop up
>>583347372>>583347395post the games you play
>>583347247so the downranking changes they added in is also applying to being too low to heal a higher target lmao
>>583347010are you slow or just not fast
>>583347312yes and then you keep the sword and board after 20 dw
its crazy how 99% of the bugs could have been avoided if they just used any of the classic>wrath clients and not the retail one
>>583347469w-wyhy keep it?
>>583347451there u go, only good games, also have wc3 and broodwar installed in battlenet but havent played in a while
>>583347546>AION2Ahahahahahahahahahhaahahahah
>>583347451only this one, videogames are for kids>>583347543i was just being a sarcastic prot warrior faggot, you do you king
>>583347453Im in mensa
>>583347543the damage is inconsequential in comparison to the other two during level, it also allows you to tank dungeons with easei only wish blizzard would add quests early on that get you a shield, otherwise youre stuck with a white one tanking dungeons unless you get lucky with a green drop
>>583347546I played AION 2 and it was the floatiest combat with braindead autowalking to quests and even worse p2w than wow gold buying
>>583347546LOL
>>583347546>aion 2>goodAt least the other games were good at some point.
>>583347573we used to be afraid to admit we were pedophiles on this board
>>583347631damn didnt know you can tank with fury sepc
>>583346539>That's not a retcon. The original worgen were night elves.Didn't they only write this into the lore in cataclysm? Before that they were just beings in another world fighting an unspecified enemy (lords of the emerald flame), and then summoned with the scythe of elune and around the same time with arugal magic. Then around cata they decided that they're night elves.
when I spend 15 minutes kiting a level 50 elite and it's on 5% hp but a fem nelf with an RP name comes out of nowhere and roots me
>>583347654I havent played it yet, the game is not out, I wouldn't buy the early access but I will give it a try and form my own opinion about it
STILL CANT LOOT FUCKING BLISTERWEED FOR QUEST AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>583347694Out skilled
>>583347546LMAO
>>583345884shit sucks sisjust get the worg from sfk its infinitely better than anything other than rake or broken tooth
>>583346797isnt the lore arugal created a spell or consumable that transformed them so he could control them
if youre not playing a female humie warlock, youre doing something wrong
>>583347815Get greened by my male orc warlock.
>>583347815im not agp
>>583347815
goonbros gtfihhttps://www.twitch.tv/thefoxyfaehttps://www.twitch.tv/thefoxyfaehttps://www.twitch.tv/thefoxyfae
>>583347920Thats a guy
>>583347920>https://www.twitch.tv/thefoxyfaesomeone with a twitch account call her a whore or something
>>583347815if only we had modern warlock demons in forever
>>583347952I like retails emo
think I decided i'd rather play druid on launch over mage, hope i don't regret itreally want to go night elf, but I might go horde just because olympus is so awful
>>583348026please kill yourself already
The Fury Warrior is the king of melee DPS, dealing massive blows whether using a two-handed weapon or dual wielding. You'll build Rage to use your abilities and unleash powerful attacks destroying enemies in seconds.Don't use 1h+Shield as fury
>rogue>name is something like mcstabby stabstabI will never invite people like you to my groups
>>583347815That is not a real model right?
>>583347008they'll find some damn way to add draenei
Sky elves aren't so bad if I pretend to be a high elf.
I will not be playing on a pvp server this time, brown thirdies can go ahead and grief each other and corpse camp lowbies for hours on end, I will be playing with a dad guild on the pve or rp server with an rp name, I will be enjoying beers with the boys while you enjoy jeers with the jeets
>>583347950>no onlyfans linkfuck off she's trad
ive been playing wow nonstop for 3 daystime is flying by
>>583348096The white eyes are the one thing i like about them cause it reminds me of wc3 blood elves
>>583348026horde cuck
>>583347920talking about how she smokes every day to help her anxiety. oh this bitch crazy crazy.
>>583347920>ttv ingame name
>>583347920I hate streamers SO much holy shit
it's a shame that Forever has failed but that's just how it goes sometimesmaybe blizzard will do the needful and fire faggrend and his ilk and just give us fresh 'nilla since that's all they seem capable of doing
>>583348178Yeah I'm worried for my job at this point
>>583348075>ename + class>moo>pumping>porn name all of them get denied access
>>583348342He's kinda cute tho
>>583348356samecontemplating doing the cough cough saying i gotta do wfh tomorrowonly so i can play more lol
does blizzard publish how many people are online in their games?>>583348342you can see by the arms she used to be fat, that's why she probably developed a bunch of insecurities and became a thot afterwards
>>583347920>dress like a whore>still 200 viewersfoids are pathetic and ngmi
home...
>>583347920Shan't watch some scantily clothed wench.
>>583348178>>583348356by the time it comes out you're not even going to want to play, idiots
>>583348409She might still be a little miss piggy
>>583348394For the last two weeks I did nothing for work so I'm more thinking of just dropping the game completely because I have no self-control>>583348448I genuinely hope so kek
>>583348075Now that there's not an excuse for having a shit name I will not invite anyone with a shitty name, I'd rather take a lower level off meta rp name character than I would a bis faggot with a pun name, I can already tell which is going to ruin the run or cause some unnecessary shit from the start
>>583348409>does blizzard publish how many people are online in their games?I think they stopped doing that when player numbers dropped during shadowmeme and the fabricated sex scandals.
>>583348448i willi know paladin is gonna be my maini know i want a hunterthen branch outi now know that getting wolfsbane is easy and opso there's that
Before the beta ends I will log my skelf off for the last time in her favorite place, the orgrimmar inn, kneeling and ready
People are saying that the changes makes the dungeon feel like retail, but honestly its even worse.In m+ atleast has count, so you dont skip every single mob thats not part of a quest and you get rewards at the end of the dungeon.I have just been part of an absolute demon run and I fear it will only get worse:I tanked BFD as a Horde Player and when I joined the group asked that we skip as many mobs as possible.(which was fine by me)But once Inside it turned out with "mobs" they meant anything that was not part of a quest. They got mad when I tried to get the naga boss in the cave and also did not want to pull the murloc boss because "its too much trash and the loot is not worth it"They then wanted to skip the bridge with the twilight hammers(we ended up pulling half the bridge and wiping)And to top it off a dps left after the 2nd to last boss, because the final boss has no quest on horde and had no loot for him...I hope this was just an exceptionally bad outlier, but I fear it will only get worse.BFD is a really small dungeon, what are people going to be like in BRD? Will they just quit left and right once they got their quests?Is anybody even going to run SM GY, since it has no quests?I was really excited for Forever, but the way theses changes are playing out is really frustrating as a tank player. I will prob just solo quest to 60 if this doesnt change.
Forever needs to implement an option where you have your alts group up with you as NPCs. That would give more reason to making them
>>583348549I wonder how many people still play starcraft 2, was considering giving it a go again
>>583347395Agreed. We need fashy fresh #nochanges to save the volk
>>583348419kino...
>>583348409They've never published live player numbers, the best you used to get was subscriber count and they stopped that after WoD flopped
>>583348026Shut the fuck up sillu
>>583348549Same reason but they stopped way earlier than that. Somewhere around cataclysm. Unless they started again afterwards.
Which one is more fun, Prot Warrior or Prot Paladin?What about outside of group content, is Ret Paladin more fun than DPS Warriors? More capable of soloing hard stuff because of heals?
>>583348342h-he's just like me
>>583348668they love making these items with neat but entirely inconsequential effects have huge cooldowns
wait so assass rogue need to keep up TWO dumb shitty combo buffs? SnD and Venom??? what kind of retard designed this FUN playstyle?
>>583345884Does attackspeed still matter?
>>583348626SFK is never going to be done for alliance now which means warlocks/pallys will never get to do their class quests, not that they're required for spells or anything vital but it cuts out a lot of flavor having class quests that will just never be done, aggrend is a retard
>>583348865Its an RPG anon thats RPG as fuck i like it>>583348894Try combat you will wish to go back to assa
>>583348972it would be rpg if it was relevant for more than 5 seconds, all these items they're adding are never going to get used because the leveling speed is so fast that you're constantly blowing through new gear
>>583349038>leveling speed is so fast
>>583348972whats wrong with combat, isnt it pretty much the same as in classic?
I am o-once again...asking for...Alliance Skelf Shaman and the r-removal of Lava Burst..
>>583348894rogue has only been drip fed as they fix priority bugs so far, but other classes have gotten a bunch and rogue has gotten virtually nothing. it's a massive rework coming, they're aware of the problems. rogue is a dev pet class so obviously it's going to be great, safe choice and maybe best choice on pvp.
>>583348894>don’t give them envenom, give them this shitty gay version of it>>583348626I can’t stand playing like that. I want to enjoy the dungeon, not hug the walls and avoid fighting as a group.
why are 50 year old foids like this
>>583349062Energy and point starved
>>583348964>What's that? You need MY personal cumdump healslut and this big black shield for your silly class quest? Sure. 25g.
>>583348604>beta about to end>go do something dangerous for your character>die>"Is this really how it... all.. ends...." *coughs blood*>*ominous laughter*>"So you seek power traveler *chuckles* oh I can give you that.... for a price.">pretend that you made a deal with some supernatural entity>TIMELOOP to the beginning and RP your reincarnated adventures where you will do everything differently and succeedKINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This new dungeon Krol'dok Stronghold is like the same size as BRD
post your>most fun class>least favorite class
>>583349097like what? looks like a healthy woman
>>583349240warrior mage
>>583349087No why would I want that?Also fuck you, stop being so gay.
is this sovl
>>583349240warriorwarlock
>>583348080the guy that creates mods for retail is working on some Forever models
>>583349327blegh
>>583349327disturbing
>>583349089theres no rework coming for rogue, blizzard has stated they will be #1 single target by 5% because they bring nothing else to the table except that assumes a patchwerk sim so by all accounts theyre fucking useless
>>583349235it's like twice the size of what you can see in these two screenshots
>>583349327Who is "the guy"?
>>583349054way faster than classic, your gear is better and dungeons now give 1-2 levels on your first run, if you're somehow leveling slower than regular classic you're intentionally gimping yourself somewhere
>>583349327Maybe 80% bigger?
I think it's funny that horde gets elf shaman and alliance gets elf mages.Someone in blizzard has a sense of humor.
>>583349240RetAffli
>>583349240PriestDruid
>>583349327>furry anatomyholy shit thats bad
>>583349235cant wait to run it once for the quests and then never again.>>583349309looks inefficient.
>>583349397>way faster than classicThere's been literal numerical proof that this is NOT the case retard
>>583349359in the same interview they stated that they were aware of the technical impossibility of the place-holder capstone talents vis a vis venom/rupture/snd upptime and energy/combo generation. they're going to fix each of them. and the end goal is that they're #1 single target dps, which of course is impossible until they fix them. hello? are you there?
>>583349327Don't understand bimbo exaggerated proportions they always look like shit
>>583349432>>583349313Whats with the lock hate?
>>583349471You being slow as fuck isn't proof, the normal leveling route is far far faster
>>583349523fel huffing scum don't belong in my world
VVVV VVVV
>>583349454yeah seems kind of pointless to have a level 40-45 dungeon be this big
>>583349483still not worth bringing to raid, they had everything in sod and were dumpster tier.
>>583349490for me it's the toned abs coterminous with substantial bodyfat
>>583349523Check their favorite class and you'll know.
>the announcement that kills wow foreverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nNQXT9hXbY
>>583349471No what they proved was the average leveling speed was slower. Speedrunners will be doing faster levels. Most people are probably busy sipping their brews and chatting about fog effects so the metrics aren’t that valuable.
>>583349649Hueg dungeons are gino
>>583349523Sleepy class. Rather play Mage.
How to fix dungeon anxiety?
>>583349710Aand 90% of it gets skipped, especially since aggrend doesn't like dungeon exp.
>>583349775get a cage and plug
>>583349693Nothing good will ever come from Korea.
>>583349775didn't they add a 'learning' tab to lfg so pussies like you can cope?
>>583349649they will probably do some gay mythic shit and have a lvl 60 "heroic" versionnu blizzard loves to reuse all of their low effort slop
>>583349432I thought this was the retail general, i'm retarded. Too many tabs open.MageShaman
>>583349710
>>583349559>the normal leveling route is far far fasterGood troll
31 sleeps until nov 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>583345512>naziYou're so gay lol
>>583348626I'm rolling a tank because of this shit. I will kick anybody from my group that cries about anything I want to do in the dungeon.Even in 19 classic this kind of behavior was really rare. There was only a very small handful of bosses that were genuinely skip worthy. Like Jandice in scholo you'd skip if nobody needed the quest, or the leeroy jenkins room in ubrs.
>>583349998I actually just don’t believe you’re excited for this. It’s a complete abortion.
>>583349240>hunter>rogue
I need more immersion-breaking story arc quests that are tongue-in-cheek celebrations of famous movies. i want to be playing Casablanca when I'm playing WOW.
>>583347546might actually try aion 2 morrow? when it's free while I wait for forever
>>583349993going out of the way to get the quests, travel, and build the group is far far far slower than just blasting quests, 1-20 pure questing is 5-6hours and the dungeon slows this down greatly
>>583348094their space ship crashed next to thunder bluff, they're with the horde now!
>>583349240Druid/warlock tiePaladin
>>583350136This iteration of wow is NOT for you go blast in retail this is NOT a blasting game
>>583349240magedruid
>you will choose only the numerically best race and class combinations>you will follow the restedxp guides to level up to prepare for raidlogging asap >you will run only the efficient dungeons in the leveling route once and skip the rest>you will skip every mob in the dungeon as well as bosses that don't have quests tied to them >you will pay rogues, hunters, mages, and warlocks to provide their services soloing bosses and teleporting you around the world for pre-raid bis gearing>you will join a hardcore speedrunning efficiency guild to clear content as quickly as possible so you can raidlog
>>583350135that's what I was going to do, I don't think I will enjoy it because the game seems that it doesnt have good pvp, it's more for people that play ff14 and like to play dress up
>>583350105im beyond excited anonim an adult married man and will take off work for this recreation of a 22 year old video game
>>583350136You can just join a group and ask them to share the quests
>>583350224why would i care, i will blast, and i will exclude people like you from joining radis and groups because you dont have enough gear or parse high enough
Kind of glad I'm not playing the beta. I have zero restraint and I would just be playing nonstop.
>>583349993yeah so you don't actually have any proof that it's slower now other than you had a bad time leveling because you're too dumb to keep up with this new game that literally shoves greens and blues in your face every 2 seconds, there is absolutely no way you level slower unless you're intentionally trying to level slower
>>583350242same brounmarried35but ive been playing for 3 days straight
>>583350125Dangerously based
>>583350242I'm glad ur happy, wish I could get excited about things like you are
>>583350151Wowfags really think this is the peak of graphics and artstyle
>>583350105Knowing how mad Forever is making some of you enhances the excitement.
>>583350309K>>583350331Can you use a browser? Do you know how to search the whole world wide web? You seem to otherwise i don't know how you'd end up on 4chan
>>583350287and you still have to run around to hand them in, its far slower, the gear isnt even worth it when you just outlevel it so fast
>>583350224Thats just lazy balancing. When they start talking about “enjoying the journey” and shit. Trust me that’s not a real thing. There’s no journey dude and your company is mentally challenged paraplegics on welfare who can’t manage to do a DPS rotation even if it tries as hard as it can it’ll still be getting green parses. You realize literally 80% of the population is getting green parses like that’s actually mentally handicapped. The solution is to build more skyscrapers and let them breed a lot. Then in 50 years we throw another mass killing event where we kill billions of poor people.
>>583350357You have depression
>>583348806play both and see for yourselfbut paladins are gay
>>583350387Literal tranny logic, save yourself while you can.
>>583350105Yep I’m very excited, I love leveling, I love classic Azeroth, I’m enjoying every single change they made and having fun. Sorry you’re not a fan.
>>583350410Redditslop
>>583349087No elemental mastery is fucking CRIME. I'm simply not going to play shaman anymore (maelstrom wep is also turbo gay)
>>583350224blasts all over you uwaaaa
>>583350357its been a while desu
>>583348626I posted this the moment they said they were increasing quest exp and decreasing mob exp in dungeons.The replies were people calling me an idiot.
>>583350242Youre excited for an abortion of a mmorpg. That really just says more about how stupid you are. Very unintelligent and misinformed if you believe you’ll be playing this for longer than a week or two.
>>583350398So you don't have a source is what you're saying
>>583350242Based
>>583350610So you can't browse the internet is what you're saying
>>583350602who pissed in your cornflakes
>>583350561like why did they change it? it's not even a direct change to counter aoe boosting it's just flat out a shit tier change
>>583349875Yes but it's still a hurdle. What if I do something wrong and people get mad at me?
>>583350561I think I might have called you a retard at the time, if I did then I concede.
they should postpone the launch until the game is fixed but I'm afraid the more they cook the worse they'll make the game to be
>>583350561But aggrend just made a post about running WC 4 times in row for lvl20 bis???it's fucking grim
>>583350602You sound miserable
>>583350721>>583350734
Classic speeds questing with heavy restricted ruleset to not allow players assisting which speeds it up even moreforever actually speeds this up with the new quest optionsdungeons are shit
>>583349649>pointlessparse tranny speed running freak kys. Why do you even play video games
>>583350561People are also going to be far more prone to ninjaing if you're never going to see your group again (megaserver+no repeat runs) low trust faggots will just default to needing on a lot of things they might otherwise have waited on
>>583350775chill out man, I just think it's a little big that's all
>>583350649Apparently you can't since you can't link your source
>>583350693because people saw their streamer repeatedly say they got 3 levels for doing a single dungeon with all the quests and everybody demanded nerfs assuming this was a game-breaking change to vanilla sensibilities. they're really paranoid about dungeon spam not being bis for leveling, but i don't really understand, if you can't pay for boosts why shouldn't people be able to just repeatedly dungeon if they want. especially if things are overpopulated and quests are slow going anyway.
>>583350767what are these rankings for
>>583350486Youre actually like a blizzcattle. No thoughts in your head at all. Totally unthinking and unaware of good game design. Youll be joking with strangers about gay centaurs just like they designed in their forced player social interaction strategy for player retention and sub metrics seminar. It’s a complete abortion of a game to anyone who has a university education in a stem field
>>583350807dont need to ninja, i got instant groups hard reserving every item as a tank, people just wanted the quests done
me? tanking dungeons and needing every green and blue drop that people dont need. what are you going to do about it
>>583350871You're boring me, look it up, last you
>>583350231No, I won't. I will however kill these types of players out in the world and make them seethe for 'wasting time'
>>583350907enjoy your speedrun game jeety
if endgame raiding requires you to do bullshit in low level dungeons, like finding some gimmick item in wailing caverns just to progress through a level 60 raid, then im not playing this shit.and judging by the direction they're going, it really looks like they'll pull something exactly like that.
>>583350231i will do all these things so i can then level another alt, rinse and repeat till i have every class at max and am raiding on every one and doing bg's when not raiding
>>583351000>>583350954
>>583350863a little big is a fair complaint but pointless means something different entirely. Don't speak like a terminally online depressed retard and we can talk like normal people
i hear aggrend is going to nerf mob exp in the open world and quest exp so you enjoy the journey longer instead of crying on the forum after 1 week
>>583351000>He hates a reason to go back to peak leveling dungeons
>>583350693https://youtu.be/uDRcv_w85j8?t=4009It's purely to stop aoe leveling in dungeons.
>daily dungeon experience lockout (first run per dungeon per day is normal xp)>full server layers instead of zone sharding>streamers forced onto a streamer layer>spammers and suspended accounts forced onto retard layer with each other>orc racials nerfed, dorf racials buffed>put store mounts on the transmog toggle so I don't have to see that shit>NEVER add new races or classesthis would make forever perfect for me
>>583351000they already said they would, but it wont be for an item that low, they specifically stated they are adding in insanely low drop chance powerful items to chase everywhere in endgame
>>583350906Kicked tanks get queue priority so I’ll probably be kicking you just because i get very petty about that type of thing. I don’t know why but it’s always bothered me when people try to push ahead of me in line. Even if I already got billions of gold like I just get so upset I have to spam votekick until it passes. I’ve vote kicked 100% of the people who have done that, easily over 50 people by now. I will actually kick you for any reason and I also always press yes when the kick screen pops up because I trust that guy is kicking somebody for a good reason. I’ve kicked so many people.
>>583350893Are you the same anon that posted deadlock, poe1and2 and other live service slop games? Pretty funny. Coming to a general for a game you don't like is very retarded behavior, coming here and baiting on purpose because you're lonely is equally as retarded
>>583351000Unless the drop rates are like 1% you could farm a drop in WC as a 40+ in like half an hour
>>583351068>mages ruin game >fixing mages ruins game game status?
>>583351141they are going to be less than 1%, like 0.1 0.01 chase items
FUCKK IM SOULING THE FLIP OUT
>REMOVE all quests>all monsters are very strong and you can only kill one per time>you are FORCED to play with other people to kill more than 1 monster/minute or do any dungeonthere, I fixed wow forever, I made it fun and engaging and social, aggrend can steal my work and pretend it was his idea
>started a rogue>always energy starved>combo points arent really being pushed outhow do i get better
>>583351000You lack the whimsy of actual vanilla. Faggot.
>>583350693Because aggrend is a fat fucking retard who has no idea how this game works and thinks that if he nerfs dungeon exp in to the ground people will go out in to the world and quest together despite questing disincentivizing playing together at all, this has nothing to do with boosting they could easily kill it by implementing some sort max level for each dungeon or just killing exp with higher level members in the group, they have directly said they do not want you grinding dungeons and only want you to quest, they want this to be a linear friendslop game but have not put in any friendslop elements, dungeons were where friend groups went to level not the open world competing for 10 drops of boar asses that only have a .00001% chance to drop off the grand total of 5 of them that spawn in one corner of the map, this is the same fucking retard that thought that the nightmare portals in SoD were a good idea how anyone has faith in this faggot to design a good game while also being backed by current blizzard is beyond me
>>583351137>I'll probably be kicking you >he thinks he hasn't already been kicked by me (tank and group leader)
>>583351226wow would be pretty kino if levelling up required group grinding like FFXI
>>583351151>game status?Ruined
rate my rogue build
Horde or alliance for EU PVE
>>583350404Just dont turn in that one quest that is on the other continent, the rest are generally stacked in one location
>>583351306maybe I should play ffxi
>>583351212So 0.01% low level chase items are going be required to raid?I know blizzard is retarded but thats super retarded. Any low level item that would be "required" won't be locked behind a 1 in 1000 chance boss drop.
>>583351348Orde
>>583351372why its slower
>>583351348>PVEYou sound like a sissy so alliance.
>>583351039Okay no it is actually pointless. Very few people are going to want to run through a dungeon as large as BRD when you get minimal XP from dungeon mobs and the loot you get will be replaced in 5 levels. People will at most skip as much of the instance as possible while doing whatever dungeon quests they get. Maybe don't act like a terminally online autistic spastic nigger when you respond next time.
>>583351261>go farm trivial content like you're playing retail>this is the whimsy of actual vanilla
>>583351436JUST GOOGLE IT!!!!
Did they change the player melee range? I'm getting hits in from like 10 yards away, it looks funky as fuck
retard whining on twitter about how much xp each starter zone givesFuck him, I like the extra quests
>>583351214holy kino
>>583351473Yeah? Farming low level trivial shit for mats is vanilla shit. Did you never farm potion mats?
>>583351385wont be required but if you dont have them you wont be top parsing on the fights that they are OP for, because they want you to stay subbed trying to get them FOREVER
>>583351348if youre german allianceany other nationality horde
What's your solution to the following issues:>boosting people through dungeons for exp where the paypigs just sit at the entrance>"spellcleave" groups farming the same dungeons over and over again because it's optimal xpWithout the following side effects:>dungeons devolve into skipping mobs>dungeons become near worthless for leveling>you're unnecessarily penalized for having a slightly higher level person join the group>you're heavily disincentivized from running the same dungeon a couple times with friends>you fill the game with complex systems that people don't understand>you kill aoe (and mages)
>>583351496i did, doing dungeons/dungeon quests is slower than pure questing, not only that it throws off the optimal routing
>>583351137theres no dungeon finder that teleports you to the dungeon in classic, and new tanks just magically appear out of nowhere
>>583351594Why?
>>583351653If some nigger wants to pay for boost it's not my problem.
>>583351261>whimsy
>>583351137uhm retailshitter there is no votekick or queue in classic.... do better research next time...
>>583351345Seems like you like sitting in roots.
>>583351747Retarded twitch frogposter.
>>583351729eu pve servers are like 80% germaneven now in the beta if you pick the pve playset the entire chat is german
this talent is overpowered, 4 minutes talented and is essentially a lay on hands if you preemptively use it in big aoe pulls
Blizzard needs to hurry up and announce RP-PvP ruleset.
>>583351796*Chinese
healing in classic is so easy and fun why dont more people do it
>modern classic players>whimsylol
>>583351914>femgnome Why does no have the balls to play a midget man?
>>583351972My priest is a bald male gnome
>>583351972I want to fuck my female gnome, I do not want to fuck male gnomes. If I'm gonna play a male character I'm gonna play a male human warrior and self insert as him
not every item needs to be a gimmick.
>>583351914it's fun in dungeons and very unfun in raids so i don't play healers anymore
>>583351537I've almost never farmed anything besides rep, BGs and endgame in any iteration of vanilla/classic.
>>583329263Oh nah maybe I don't care about the skyelf poster at all, I was simply following a lead another anon had on him since he was caught samefagging before and any posts exposing that were deleted.I am personally being targeted by the schizo furfag janny from wowg who happens to lurk here too now and hates whenever I post or anyone posting my wifey and instantly deletes all posts. Even the mods know about him being a powertripping seething janny but they don't do anything about it. And people are still somehow surprised people don't post on this god forsaken site anymore. I'm kinda through with the schizo being on my ass 24/7 atp
i WILL be playing wow forever and i WILL be having FUN
>>583352119
>>583351467Simply not true. Don't play with depressed speedrunning freaks and you won't see this at all. The majority of players are casuals who will level up, do a few raids maybe and quit.
>>583352119very few items are gimmicks, you're complaining about nothing
>>583351653not gonna do ur job for free, aggrend
>>583352050Based
>>583352136Alright so you're a larping retoilet faggot.
>>583352119dungeon drops, rare spawn items and raids should have items that have gimmicks though
>>583351914your gear sucks bro
>>583352136i bet your browser cookies have g2g in them
>>583351546>you wont be top parsing on the fights that they are OPOh no! Anyway...
>>583352050If you pilot a fuckable female character then you have to live with the fact that male players want to fuck your character too. Are you comfortable knowing that?
>>583352139I WILL be quitting when the beta ends and I WILL be having fun IRL instead of wasting hundreds of hours of my life on a nostalgia themed skinner box.
>>583349327>this guy has never seen a real woman nakedKek, self reporting loser
>>583352287>Are you comfortable knowing that?Yeah, it's very easy to say no and then putting people on ignore if they dont listen
>>583352189Okay, go do chores to further trivialize a game that's been solved for two decades, then.
>>583352320how did you know i picked skinning???
>>583352365I will, and I will enjoy myself playing a video game while you will do your "chores".
>>583351653I don't care if someone wants to boost and blizzard doesn't either or they would actually just ban them 2-3 minimum wage gms could solve the issue in a single day if that was their intention, I also don't care if people want to spell cleave if they enjoy it or are too mazed to do anything else then let them, at the end of the day people should be free to play how they want and the game shouldn't be a linear rat race which is what it's going to be when questing is the only way to levelthey also need to stop pretending like there's not nuance to it, a big part of why SM was always used for grinding is because questing in that level range sucked ass, if these new 1000+ quests they keep bragging about adding are actually good then people will want to do them over dungeons anyway and if people don't want to do them again who gives a fuck? I have never did a full dungeon grind to 60 but there are absolutely times when I've felt sick of a zone or like I'd done it too recently and went and did a grind, this should always be an option, the moment that a frustrated casual player gets to a zone they hate and sees there is absolutely nothing at all they can do but to just suck it up and level through it they're going to quit, the linear questing shit is just going to cater to the most mazed of players who don't care about variety and will grind any dogshit you put in front of them, I have yet to see a single non strawman argument for why they nerfed mob exp in the first place
Blast status?
>>583352139SOVLLL
>>583352494BLASTING
>>583352494I'm having a
>>583352494https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3q1UTRKow0
>>583351796OkokBut why specifically alliance when German ?
crossroadsplace campfire and 1 itemeverybody gathers aroundputtin up their campfire equipmentgiga comfy
Enjoy Forever while it lasts...https://play.runescape.com/4
What if Blizzard made a server type where you can name your characters anything and say whatever you want as long as you don't spam or break the law etc.? Do you think it would be the most populated?
>>583352679nta but my understand is that germany has it's own wow streamer scene very similar to the US one full of obnoxious ecelebs with groups of followers that do nothing but follow them around and cause problems for normal players
>play resto Druid>make group>invite only mail wearers
>>583352719On RP realms this will be bannable if you put it in the middle of the road.
>>583352136If you don't just buy things, you need to farm these low level things in classic>Grave moss (naxx)>Elemental earth (aq, warriors)>Oily blackmouth (pvp)>Stranglekelp (pvp)>Swiftthistle (rogue)>Fadeleaf (naxx, rogue)>Solid stone+mithril>Iron+heavy stone (pvp, alternatively can farm thorium)>Manual crowd pummeler (druid)Probably missing things.
>>583352807as if
>>583352792you would invite only males
how do you guys justify spending hundreds of hours of your very limited lifespan on this video game?
Warrior is really squishy
>>583352817Small flame sacs fore fire res pots
>>583352727This shit is gonna be doa and I'm a big runescape player, it's going to be similar to dragonwilds which will not translate to an mmo and any long time jagex games enjoyer can tell you they have an absolutely terrible track record with any project that isn't osrs/rs3 every other game they've ever made has had shit support right from the start then shut down early, they might put a bit more in to this one since it has the runescape name but I have very little faith that it doesn't crash and burn and then they just move on and never mention it again
>>583352916there isnt much else I'd prefer to do
Paladin auto attacks scale off str and agi, and abilities all scale off spell power. Ret and protection right now are split between the two. How the fuck do they plan to itemize for them? Devs clearly stated they want auto attacks to be a majority of their damage, but for prot especially auto attacks are a nominal amount of threat. Are we just going to see items with extremely bloated stat totals?
I know its a bit early but will balance druid be fun, i know it wont be top dps and i dont care about that. But at the same time i dont want it to be a miserable experience that people seem to say Ele shaman is.
>>583352817The only profession I've ever done is engineering.
>>583352916epic FUN with epic FRENS is what life is all about anon
>>583352916if you could make friends to run dungeons together then it would be worth it, but questtrannies want dungeons dead and they got it
>>583352916I only play during work hours (full wfh). People who go to work or don't work and play every other waking minute don't have sex and have severe mental issues
>>583352916im schizo and cant exist in the real world and wow satisfies that area of my brain that needs bare minimum human socialization
A prime example of why you shouldn't argue with Goyim. Some of them believe that you can smoke while a giant tank of oxygen is in the room. Muh consenting adults muh choices
>>583352916How do I justify spending my time on anything? I already have a wife, kids, a career, a house (no mortgage), 2 cars, etc... I have won at life. I should be entitled to waste some of it raidlogging. I just buy gold, so I never farm or do other grindy shit.
>>583353076no one knows what you find fun and no one has played ele at 60 so has no idea how fun it is. So maybe, don't be a stupid retard
>>583353168>GoyimGo away asmongold viewer
>>583352916what else you'd consider wasting your life on? time spent having fun is not wasted, no matter how it achieved
>>583353101I am full wfh and I play during and after work, my wife also sometimes plays with me I don't get what some of you are so busy with that you can't find time to play a video game
>>583352916It makes me want to kill myself less
>>583352916>only hundredslol noob
>>583353076Okay whatever the fuck you want. If you’re trying to join a min/max guild for fun you’re doing it wrong
>>583353168Do you know about the Japanese smoking paradox?
>>583353201>don't be a stupid retardHaha if only...
>>583353054Like this
as a hordelet bimbodorei healslut, I will only join groups with Orc and Tauren males
I still don't know which class to play on launch...
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL.
You better have a lore appropriate name or am not inviting you to my groups
Will the demonic sacrifice affliction build be viable? I want to play warlock but don’t like pets.
>>583353209I often see people say that but I think there is more to life than short-term enjoyment, if you spend a decade no-lifing WoW you might enjoy it at the time but I think at the end of it you will look back and think it was time wasted.
>>583353354Good girl
>>583352916By having low standards
>>583353371if you really dont know what to play, play hunter and blast through levelling, you can then feed the fuck out of any alt you make or reroll to
I had a level 20 prot paladin tanking my group. He took no damage and was able to group pull. Blizzard hasn’t fixed shit apparently
>>583353348>no healingPaladins are just going to be trash warriors aren't they
>>583353371Your favorite!!
>>583351864it's just shield wall
>>583353354Highly considering rolling on the rp realm and doing something like this for real
>>583351653>>boosting people through dungeons for exp where the paypigs just sit at the entranceI hire gms and they just ban all people who boost and get boosted.>"spellcleave" groups farming the same dungeons over and over again because it's optimal xpI don't really care how people who are a legitimate level for the content farm that content for leveling purposes. If players found a creative way to clear then go for it. If I absolutely had to stop it then again, just hire gms. They can very easily spot active parties doing it and dish out suspensions.
>>583353354make her blue and Ill let you in my party
>>583353628>>583353354Back to retail trannies
>>583353354disturbing
I enjoyed my 3 day vacation. Whats new? Is forever still utter dogshit?
>>583351000Good, I want an mmoRPG to feel like it, I don't want a bunch of number obsessed control freaks ruining the game
>>583351069One dungeon run per dungeon per day is brutal. I'd give like 3-5.
>>583353667Corporate has decided that we can't hire any gms. Please replace them with AI.
>>583353447You say you want to play warlock, but I think you want to play mage or spriest.
>>583345603wow was getting clapped by Bolvar so integral to Onyxias plan?
>>583353798they wont kneecap it when they are putting in giga rare chase items, they want you running it often
Has anyone got the ass and titties mod to work on forever?
>>583351653The dungeon exp nerf hasn't stopped boosting though, boosting was never the issue people will now just sell quest runs it's less boosting but it's still boosting
>>583353354rough for the trolls and undeads out there
>>583352448>if these new 1000+ questsBased on what I've seen so far I really doubt this. Maybe they'll reach 1k eventually after few patches.
>>583353467i don't just play wow, plenty other games or books i enjoy, if i wasn't enjoying it i'd be doing something else, been at it for decades and wouldn't trade it for anything else, other hobbies like ball game watching or hiking are no less justified for me, its all the same as long as it gives you dopamine
>>583353628I will be interested to see how heavily the RP server skews to ERP, I remember thats all that seemed to happen on silvermoon
>>583353793My younger brother watches streamers and everytime I see the streamers UI it’s mountains of ads ons with numbers flashing everywhere. It gives you literal slot machine NPC syndrome. No wonder gamifying is in everything. These zoomers are going to be like the Geezed up seniors in the 1990’s wearing oxygen masks at the Vegas slot machines.
>>583354079What did anon mean by this...
Vast, VAST majority of the Classic armour pieces look absolutely shit in SD - they need to completely upgrade them, both SD & HD versions.
>>583354079ZUGGED
>>583354062>its all the same as long as it gives you dopaminewould you say that about gooners, or crack smokers, or playing gacha games?
>>583353302And did you know that1. You're an Amerigolem 2. You aren't Japanese 3. You only have access to poison4. They get throat cancer before they get lung cancer
>>583353540I leveled my protection paladin doing pulls of 4-6 mobs at once, with almost no down time.>shield spike>block damage wrists from DM>Retribution aura>ConsecrateI just run into group of monsters, drop consecration, and watch a movie on my side screen while pressing my consecrate butoon until they all die. Zero input required for me because all paladin defensive utility it automatically applied unlike a warrior.Prot paladin is so easily able to kill elites too, even ones 2 levels higher than them. I didn't even try this with templars bulwark yet, because after hitting 30 there really isn't any reason to keep playing unless you're autistic. I am going to guess that at 60 protection paladins are aoe face tank farming dungeons and blizzard has to do some more stupid nerfs that break the game.
why do wow players whine about they're "forced" to do stuff when all they want to do is "raid with the boys and chill"? if all you want to do is casually raid with your friends then do that there is literally nothing stopping you besides you
>>583354029Fear not, Anon. With AI, anything is possible. Before 2027, there will be 10k new quests.
>>583354079please molest her and post results
>>583354236if they have fun with it who am i to judge? if it kills them thats their choice, live and let live
>>583354286there's no such thing as casually raiding
>>583354029>I really doubt thisThis was part of their presentation at blizzcon not even in a side panel they claimed right from the start that they already have 1000+ new quests ready to go for launch
>>583353552Retribution paladins will be, yes.>no ranged attacks>no gap closers>15% movementspeed is meaningless when everyone else has 8% boot enchanted and actual mobility skills>no snares>no slows>no gap closersPaladin is going to get farmed by all classes that can ranged dps. Rogues, and warriors will do so much more damage than them, that they will lose those engagements too. Paladin can't even reckoning bomb anymore lolol.
>>583351653Remove dungeons and put all the mobs in the open world where people have to compete for them.
>>583354278how did you do dire maul low level
>>583354552Retard
>>583354079>mmm rape is good
>>583346195Devs also said they would crack down on RMT and maintain classic aesthetic with new additions yet here we are.
>>583354278That’s pretty much what the prot paladin was doing. I honestly didn’t mind it because it made healing extremely easy for me. However I have had other prot paladins tank and they get booty blasted into the shadow realm. Tanking still takes some skill
>>583354634Uhm actually it's VC it's always been VC if you claim that it always hasn't been VC you're wrong we all know it's VC not DM if you call it DM and we don't go to DM then I'm going to be mad OKAY????
Convince me not to.
>>583354412people should of course be free to do what they want but I think that some activities are more worthwhile than others. WoW is probably on the lower end I would say.
>>583353904No, affliction warlock is perfect except I just don’t want a pet.
>>583354634got his ass
>>583354709Why don't you have a seat.
>>583354709rape
>>583354714have an epic unc reference
Want to play paladin, warrior, or druid.>don't want to be an easy target in wpvp>want to be needed in raids>want to be a viable tank>want to have fun>don't want to be held back because the developers and community hate me since I was good in one version of a 22 year old gameIt feels like druid is my only option. Is that right?
>>583354709Built for-
So I was thinking of stocking up on gamer fuel for launch week. What would you guys recommend?
>not giving dungeon mobs a damage buff if they are all focused firing a single tankThis forces you to learn CC and removes aoe tanking. As a bonus it also creates massive lulz for any DPS pulling massive threat by getting one shot
>>583354906paladin has gotten the most focus so far they're the dev favorite
>>583354693There's no skill required. The shield block talents, and righteous fury damage reduction talents do all the work and they're totally automatic. Maybe you were playing with ret paladins wearing a shield.
>>583354906Create your value with competence instead of having your class carry you.
>>583354906go pally
>>583354906don't forget you have double spec after 40, druid will be fine
>>583354906What makes you think druid will be any of those things except a hard pvp target? They devs have zero idea how to handle druid right now and are actively trying to stop being able to use bear and cat form together.
>>583355017anon, what you're describing is what happens when you pull too many mobs...
>>583354962the only things I like are pasta, pizza and things with cheese
>>583354014fine trolls can join, but not undeads
>>583355038Yeah but paladin looks like it will be an absolute joke in all 1v1 match ups.>all damage rotation abilities can be dispelled>no reckoning >no snares/slows>no spell interruptIt's going to be kites and farmed by ranged classes, and rogue/warrior are going to molest it with their dramatically higher damage output.
>>583354962Eggs, rice, bread, carrots, celery, onions, potatoes, spinach, milk, beef.
>>583355205A geared tank can handle massive groups. You want to stop group aoe pulls and use class fantasy
what's with mmorpg players begging for the game to be ballbustingly hard when classic in the first place was very easy, the players were and still are utter dogshit at doing simple, baby mechanics
IT'S OVER
>>583354962dr pepper
>>583355158>They devs have zero idea how to handle druid right now and are actively trying to stop being able to use bear and cat form together.Yeah, they are definitely fucking up the feral tree. It's bloated as hell right now and impossible to make a good build with either form.
who gives a fuck about 1v1 pvp lmfao
>>583355318Apparently all streamers have downs
>>583355306so... just tune it so you cant handle massive gruops
>>583352773Thanks, I am too old for that streamer nonsense. So I will go alliance. Tanks very much
>>583355434>we want players to be out in the world doing stuff>therefore we're going to make all instanced content less valuable and force you out into the worldRetard.
>>583355434Bro he wants to make ebin duel videos for YouTube. It’s almost like classic wow again!
>>583355318not yet, he hasn't made one on Forever
>>583355550>>therefore we're going to make all instanced content less valuable and force you out into the worlddungeon gear is still worth it though
eureka! I know how to fix wow forever: Jason Schreier is going to break out a new #metoo accusation in blizzard targeting aggrend and the other 2 devs, the old guy and the faggy guy, and they'll be replaced, fixing forever forever
>honeymoon phase ending>people finally realizing blizzard will never be able to provide a classic+ like they want because it doesnt even existEra chads, we won.
>>583355558>all nintenbaby shitQuick check his search history
>>583355294Based
Get it through you're thick skull: You're not a player. You're just content for some shitskin on twitch to profit off off you.
>>583354708>VCAmerican mystery meat.>DMWhite europeans.
>>583355294Peon maxxing
who's looking forward to tedious multistep quests like the one with turion in epl? that shit gonna be so impossible without 800 layers on megaserver like holy shit do they just plan to wing it?
>>583355845Boss name terminology was a holdover from Everquest, was it not?
>>583355676>EraYou mean Pochie chads
JUST PICK THE CLASS YOU WANT TO PLAY HOLY FUCKAND IF YOU DON'T END UP LIKING IT YOU CAN JUST REROLL AND MAKE YOUR ORIGINAL MAIN A GATHERER/BANK ALT ITS NOT HARD
>>583355676>because it doesnt even existIt did at one time though and was called turtle
>>583355595it really isnt when you can just level higher and get better, its not like you need full RoL gear to do wetlands dungeon, you can go in with random greens and be 100% fine, low level gear doesnt matter, just blast to the 45-60 range then start to care about the gear, if you really care about a low level drop come back at higher level and get it solo with 0 competition
>>583356031I didn't play EQ, but I played this game since late 2005 and the first time I ever heard VC was on Elysium in 2017.
Did my third dungeon as a healer and gotta say this is way more stressful than dps
queuing for dungeon runs is so fucking miserable as deeps holy fuck you're basically an average 30y 5'10 dude on tinder trying to hit prime 20yo altgirl pussy
>>583356090>just waste 100 hours of your life on something you may hate and if you do hate it waste another 100 hours of your life
>>583356157if i didnt have a mage to give me water in my first one we woulda bee fucked
>>583356090>Game will be dead after 2 months>DOOOD JUST BE 1 MONTH BEHIND IS NOT A BIG DEAL XD XD
New trinket got datamined.>30 minute cooldown and casts a RANDOM spell RANDOMLY (hearthstone cringe vibes)Holy fuck this is retail minus.
>>583356012You mean in dreams? It’s literally named “in your dreams, you can complete this”. I actually quit the game because of that I couldn’t get my pre raid and I just stopped playing. And I rolled around in bed night after night until the joke finally got me and I realized I was being tortured by an evil devil. It’s actually impossible to complete in dreams without hiring mercenaries to boost you. And you can’t afford to boost without first leveling a mage to boost with to farm gold to buy other boosts.
>>583356090no you dont understand if youre behind even a tiny bit after day 1 you might aswell quit the game
>>583356090Anon your talking to zoomers first WoW. They are used to braindead retail
>>583355595It's not though in the time it takes you to do 4-5 runs of a dungeon to farm decent gear you could have outleveled that gear or just crafted some gear that's of close enough stats to that gear that it won't matter
>>583356243I get it!
>>583356243that's vanilla SOVL right there tourist
>>583356243ludosoul
>>583356169>>583356220>behind>waste of timeITS A VIDEO GAME JUST HAVE FUCKING FUN!!!
>>583356209I've watched a healing guide before and he said to always have enough water, so I had like 60 and drank half of it
>>583356372Playing with other people is fun and there is only a small limited time window to do that
>>583356398>I still haven’t see one mage named “Vending Machine”
>>583356398what healer?
>>583356119>>583356292There's that WoW player efficiency brainworm at work again. Who is saying you need to farm a full set from the dungeon and not just a few upgrades before going back to questing
>>583356243It could be anything, it could even be a boat!
>oh hey there, nice class and spec you picked .... it would be a shame if someone nerfed to the fucking ground 3 days before the raids release
yooo my druid is looking fly as FUQ!!!
>>583356329>>583356339>>583356350>>583356493And apparently it's a reference to some woke hollyweird movie where the straight white male protagonist gets humiliated by pocs?
>>583356243Did claude write that description?
>>583356267i did it just fine on classic and anniversary, just had a lot of competition and managed to click fast enough, so all in all done in about 3 hours with 3 other groups going at it at all times per layer, megaserver is gonna be so fucking ass for many escort and rp quests like that its insane if they don't have some plan in mind to tweak them in some way
>>583356372If only it were that simple. Video games aren’t fun. That’s why poor people get to play them with rich people. Thats also why forever is a complete abortion, because poor people have mental disabilities and can’t compete at high skill ceilings without swinging from the chandelier
>>583356483if the gear from the dungeon actually meaningfully improved the time it took to quest then sure, it doesnt though, it slows you down and then you replace that gear with quest gear anyway
>>583356476disc priest
>>583354962Zero sugar soda and homemade beef stew
>>583356562>And apparently it's a reference to some woke hollyweird movie where the straight white male protagonist gets humiliated by pocs?post hand with timestamp
>>583356558I heem you IRL nigga
>>583356558bro's swagged the fuck out
>>583356372>play with friends>erm could you wait me for 4 days? I want to play another class instead
Undead female or orc male warlock?
>>583356090I will play orc warrior and druid sissies WILL buff me with pack and shaman sissies WILL throw the windfury totem down for me and I WILL do more dps than then and I will BELITTLE them because of it
do americans really tip their rmt gold sellers?
I literally cannot fucking stand pvp servers man. Literally every single encounter I've had in the past 30 hours has been "hunter with 2-3 backup rushes me down from across the entire zone while not a single alliance even looks in my direction"Fuck this gay shit
>>583356579Pve servers don’t count as a completed in dreams quest.
>>583356635
Does priest bubble prevent retribution aura proccs? It doesn't prevent rage build up so I don't think so right
>>583356919>>583356891>>583356876>>583356728>>583356704>>583356651So these threads are dying huhSlow as fuck today. Rip wow forever
twitch.tv/alexensual
>>583356996
>>583356891mmmmmm fresh alliance bussy
>>583356614im a priest main im surprised you had mana issues, you can chill and regen easily and then just pw:s and 1heal them to full, let renew roll on dps if they take damage and spot heal with lesser heal, not everyone needs to be topped instantly, dont waste the mana shielding everyone if you are, its not worth the mana
heres your rogue aoe
>>583347546mazemaxxing
>>583356728>play with friends>3 days into levelling (you are level ~32)>'hey I want to reroll'>your friends, since they are your friends, boost you through your quests and you ding 20 in just a few hours>catch up quickly and you all keep levelling together>if someone else wants to reroll you do the same for themwhat's the issue here?
>every item has a set bonus >every item has some gimmick >every item has AI generated flavor text >every item is "niche"
>>583356876Actually kekked at this
Is there a Rake equivalent on Alliance?
>>583357145>>583357123>>583357103>BROOO I LOVE +1% HIT CHANCE IT MATTERS SOOOOO MUCH OMG YAAAAS MY ULTRARARRSHARTMOR GIVES ME 1% MORE CHANCE TO HIT AMD +5 FARTYWARTYSAUCE
>>583356987Yeah it’s an abortion of a game and only the lowest common denominator is willing to play it. Theyre mentally handicapped blizzcattle.
why is every warrior either completely braindead 700+ms reaction time dad gamer or a hypersweat mongoloid who has never once seen sunlight
>>583356157have you got meditation talent? 50% mana regen while casting, it helps alot.
>>583348026Quit being a faggot and play pvp if you want to avoid Asmongoy
>>583356119>being a parse brain minmaxeryou are why retail exists and you have zero self awareness
>>583357103Yeah......Look I'd do that for you, and you'd do that for me, but our friends aren't doing that for us and you know it.Cute though.
>>583356987>>583357180who broke the bot?
>>583356891>he willingly, voluntarily, CHOSE to be alliance on a pvp serveruhh... didn't get the memo, huh alliance boy? alliance ONLY pvp through battlegrounds and ONLY alterac valley because it's actually a pve encounter
>>583349490You are simply not brown. Low IQ individuals tend to "like" these kind of over the top proportions.
>new forever item>knocks target sillyWhat is this quirk chungus text? That's not an actual status effect in World of Warcraft. Fuck these "people".
>>583357281>>583357280Why do you defend items that add FartywartysauceLiterally what kind of stat is fartysauce
>>583356891join Olympus bwo
Inv to asmon layer
>>583357103fucking kekthis faggot really thinks other people will nanny you and waste time just because you had a whim to reroll half way
>>583357436shoulda named it big chungus!!! xD
anons here pretending wow players for the last 2 decades havent been brainwashed to believe even 1% increase in dps is good for you has been to watch
>>583356891>don't feel like playing when they increased the level cap>log in today>run to tarren mill>I mean corpse run to tarren mill because there was a party of skull level male nelfs
>>583357526I'm sorry you don't have real friends, anon.
who else skipping this slop for aion 2?
>>583357436>Postmaster Malownfucking irl rapper popculture references shit
>>583357061I did top up everyone constantly yeah. At first I shielded the tank before he got into battle and then healed him up as he dropped lower but then he said I should shield only when he's low so his aura of retribution does damage still.As I said it was my third run so it's still far from optimized>>583357226Yeah but I'm still only level 20 so I have only 1 point in there. This will be huge
>>583357582this is a glimpse into what a pvp server will be like fren
>>583356891>he didn't roll the PvP faction on a PvP server
/ourslut/ is livehttps://www.twitch.tv/nattatihihttps://www.twitch.tv/nattatihihttps://www.twitch.tv/nattatihi
LOL THIS TRINKET IS BROKEN AT SHIT?? WTF IS AGGREND THINKING
>>583357461she's saying, pay, now?
>>583356891>rolling pvp servers in the first placelmfao world pvp has and will always suck dick in every single game it's allowed to be in. it always turns into gank fests always without fail
>>583357740>>583357725>>583357718>>583357709twitch.tv/fartywartysauce
>>583356891You didn't get the memo. On alliance you are supposed to overlevel in safety and then bully lowbies for pvp.
>>583357709yeah no worries, healing takes a little bit of time to get comfortable and you're at the mercy of the random group finder which can make things worse to learn, once you get a feel for how much your heals actually heal you can make better choices to save mana, shield is best to use as an oh shit i need a extra second to cast a bigger longer cast time heal before they die button
>>583357815and pve servers are no fun because raids and dungeons are easyso maybe wow is just bad?
>>583356996>goy wars merch>hat indoors
>>583357436>>583357675Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>583357975>so maybe wow is just bad?always has been
They're so fucking lazy they didn't even bother giving this new datamined cloak a model. $15 a month for this!?!?!?
>>583357436Keep crying, tourist.
>>583356483>efficiency brainwormNot everything is about efficiency you fucking retard something are just about not being an idiot, every aspect of this game and any other game is a combination of time+reward+effort and every player will have a certain part of the delta they prefer to remain in, there are always going to be certain activities that you don't enjoy that's called having a preference not worrying about efficiency, when the ratio of that time+reward+effort changes your level of fun for that activity will also likely change, if a dungeon no longer rewards anything and takes a long time to do it stops being as fun as just continuing to quest to get to a more desirable activity that is actually fun, getting a "few pieces" from a dungeon isn't always going to happen some dungeons are going to have no gear for you and other times you're going to lose every roll, dungeon gear is not always going to be worth it for you with the current system because there's no external reward now aside from gear which you may or may not get
>>583357597not me im going to redridge!!
>>583356987In dreams, on a PvP server is literally impossible to complete. So it takes hours to even accept the quest, and you will be getting ganked by horde groups who also want to complete the quest for their bis pre raid. It’s a long escort, you can’t protect tirion while also killing the horde. They don’t fight fair obviously they used ranged attacks and kite you and you can’t leave tirion alone. And they’re in full 5 man parties with healers too because they’re trying to get the quest themselves. It was actually impossible. Youd literally have to kill 3 seperate horde parties. I think I only tried it like 5 times before just giving up. Like it was actually impossible to do this quest on a fresh realm as a new 60 before raids were released. On a pve server, it’s totally different it’s just another escort quest with a long wait between each group.
>>583357436it's over... azeroth has... le fallen
>>583357975pve/pvp servers would be a real choice if you couldn't queue for BGs on pve realmsas it stands, you just have a smoother experience on pve
>>583357996>durrr a hat indoors bad!Do you live with your mom and dad still? I can do whatever I want in my house. I could wear anything I want and if you tried to stop me from doing so I'd slam your head against the corner of a table thirty times until you stopped moving.
>>583358046holy shit I've never been there before
>>583358130
>>583358089who careswhy do you want to complete In Dreamsjust go do something else tard>>583358112no one plays bgs.
>>583357436UNACCEPTABLE this weapon should RAPE the enemy for two seconds
hahahahahah
>>583358130post bald spot
>>583356891>>583357582>pvp server>the only pvp is just max levels ganking lowbiesevery single time, no matter how many times you're told you'll never accept that the honorable 1v1 similar level duels only pvp servers that these faggots tell you exist are just made up specifically to get people like you to role on them
>>583358034>>583357783>>583357436>>583356243the bit was funny the first time but by the second post it was already cringe
>>583358141its epic!!
>>583355595Dungeons aren't worth doing more than once for quests before 60. In the time it takes you to farm all those blues, I will have already out leveled them and have moved onto the next tier of dungeons.
>>583358130kek why do baldies live in a perpetual state of anger
From how I understand disc priests want more intelligence while holy priests want more spirit?
>>583357597>aion 2 can't even get good false flag shillsgrim
>>583357596A tranime pedophile who plays 12h doesn't have friends either. Discord friends aren't real anon
>>583358508>>583358463>>583358460>>583358450>>583358409Why is nobody posting Battlegrounds pvp footage?...is it possible pve is for cucks and they never played bgs?
wheres all the ai catboxes???
>>583358297i must minmax the beta!
>>583358463not really, in classic they both wanted int until way later in raid tiers because the holy talent didnt scale that well from spirit and int stacking was just flat out better
>>583358528I think you could make real friends if you were a less abrasive person, anon-kun
>>583356090Nah, if the first class I pick isn't >meta in raids>viable in 1v1 wpvp>strong on bgs>has a strong viable farming method for goldThen I don't reroll and waste hundreds of hours just to be let down again. I simply unsubscribe and stop playing.
>>583358572normal human beings will just spam AV till rank 14 only autists ganking will record peeveepee
Sheen status?
>>583358089I would actually rate this quest as the most challenging quest in any version of world of Warcraft by a lot. It was literally impossible to complete. Im actually like a fucking multi r1 pvper and I couldn’t handle carrying. I was the best class for the job too. There was just way too much going on at once. Like I understand shell shock victims. We would be coming down the hill dude and id see a group of horde on the other side of the hill behind some wooden planks. And they were moving closer to us. We had horde behind us too, and I was taking shots at them and killed a couple. Tirion keeps going down the path and mobs are spawning. Like 8 more horde are running around trying to get into the main building. It’s complete chaos. Our healer goes down. Like 10 more horde are fucking gunning at us and I just can’t hold them. It’s too many people, skill doesn’t matter anymore.
>>583358616We’re talking about nuretail not classic
>Watch the hunter deep dive>Survival is not intended to be a pure melee but is designed/intended to run in and out of melee every time it gets a mongoose bite procWell that's took one class off my to play list at least.
>blud cares about pvp in a pve game
Still one month to go...
>>583356891>going to roll an Alliance warlock on a PvP serverI swear I won't regret this.
>tfw needed an item that immediately got replaced by the quest reward itemWhoops
>>583358816You will regret that nonny
>>583358802the game was originally designed with world pvp in mind newniggerit was a selling point in 2004
>>583358037>it's a waste of time/pointless>actually everyone likes different things!Yeah and you like speedrunning like a retail tranny
>>583356159>open dungeon finder>invite the first healer on the list>select only the highest level dps players who have no conflicts with any of the items I want to roll onI love when I get spammed "dps lf X" in whispers, and I just ignore them because I have class colors on and see they're a warrior/ret/hunter/rogue/shaman. Feels so good man.
>play on a pve server>flag myself for pvp when I want to>have a couple fights>turn pvp off and quest as normalPVP server dorks dont want you to know this secret tech to having world pvp and a good questing experience
>>583358814What is this disneyslop artstyle?
>>583358274Yea that’s what I did I literally unsubbed. Actually that’s when I started playing ffxiv. I know how the game works better this time around, you just have to pay people. You hire like 5 extra alliance and pay them 300g each to PvP boost you through the quest.
Overwatch got World of Warcraft skins, what did WoW get from Overwatch?
>watching towelie because I'm eating and I need something to watch>talking about how retarded blizzard was to say rogue will be number one dps nonstop
>>583358768its the same, spirit stacking is still to gain the benefit from the deep holy talent, you still want a nice mix on gear but if you have to choose between int or spirit, int is better till later
>>583358667>meta in raidsneeded for bane of reck>viable in 1v1 pvpfamously the strongest class in pvp>strong in bgssee above>viable gold farming methoddire maul east, the most reliable gold farm in the entire gamesounds like you want WARLOCK, anon
>>583358774No one wanted melee weaving to eat an entire spec but an eceleb did so blizzard did it
>>583358665I have plenty and have regular sex as I'm a grown man, thank you
>>583357103>ruining other people's progression just because you're an indecisive faggot
>>583358936>play on pve server>flag myself for pvp when I want to>only other people who flag are people who can gank me easily>turn pvp off foreverinability to consider second order consequences strikes again
>>583358816>not only does undead still have wotf, but now orc also has curse/bane immunityOh no no no no
>>583358774Same. VERY disappointing. Who the fuck wants to melee weave
>>583349097
when?the turtle is still wandering in the seapandaria doesnt need to be unfoggiedificationed
>>583358894That's why there's several "contested" zones that have zero reason for players of one faction to even go there, right? And why there wasn't a reason to PvP at all when the game launched? And why pre-release screenshots show players of the Horde and Alliance grouping together?
i was on the forever hype train but it looks like the game is going to be bad desu
>>583359064Much like Seal Twisting, an eceleb streamer playstyle gets forced on a spec.Don't forget, Worlo Forlo is a streamer game.
>>583358894Uhmm I don't see 'world pvp' on my BIS list excel sheet sim????
>>583359247same. all the helpful posts here have convinced me not to play it. it's nice that anons are looking out for my best interest.
>>583359247I mean what else are you gonna do.
Holy Shock leaves a Glimmer of Light on the target for 30 sec. When you Holy Shock, all targets with Glimmer of Light are damaged for 720 or healed for 793.
>>583358912>x has invited me to a group (im the tank)>its just a rogue forming a group>i drop group and instantly get an invite to a full party with summon ready
>why did they make one spec of a class work like it did in classic?
>>583359120erm, sweetie... did you just, decide you wanted to change classes in a video game...? you really aren't being a team player right now... now we're going to ding 60 in 106 hours instead of 102... yiiiiikes...
>>583359247crazy, im even more excited for the full release
how do i make gold in beta? i wanna level my engineering to 100
Sodapoppin is such a whiny little bitch that I don't even know why Blzzard bothered putting him on the podcast
Does the legacy shit carry across servers?
>>583359330We're all going back to the real game (Retail)
>>583358909Speedrun routes don't run dungeons so you solo questing is actually more like a retail troon
>>583359039Warlock is a fucking chore to play in battlegrounds. I can't just use my abilities in a long session, I either have to play inefficiently using drain soul constantly or I have to spend time farming shards in a different far away zone, just to hearth back and queue up for bgs again. Plus if you go demonology you have to summon 2 fucking demons every time you respawn. It takes like a minute to resetup your class. Im also playing alliance and the fucking cock gobbling retards that work there thought they should give the most common horde races both hard counters to warlocks in pvp.
>>583359330Theres actually still era, surprisingly. I doubt this will be a better game. Theyre trying to make the worst game possible with this and it’ll be DOA.
How to fix Rogue in Forever, according to the guy who writes almost every Rogue guide on wowhead>Give them something similar to the Pally's Holy Strike. Extremely low damage, 0 energy cost, fixed CD, no combo points or energy generated until you get a talent later for it, is basically there so you have a button to press and aren't just sitting there autoattacking and maybe have more chances to trigger on-hit effects like poisons>move serrated blades up from T4 to T3 in subtlety and Hemmorage up to T4>move Relentless Strikes into T1 of Subtlety and make it a 2-point talent, as it stands EVERY build has to get this talent no matter what your spec so this is a way to not force you to go 11 points into assassination every time>delete Improved Distract, it's a dogshit talent literally no one takes>move either Dirty Tricks or Setup down from T2 to T3>delete the two penultimate talents in Subtlety, replace with a 5pt talent "reduces the energy cost of hemorrhage by 5, increases damage of backstab by 15%". Goal is to make backstab twice the energy cost, slightly more than twice the damage, but fewer combo points per energy compared to hemorrhage>give rogues a buff or debuff that only Rogues can apply to a raid. 7 out of 9 classes already have this, give it to Hunter also. It's very easy to exclude Rogue from raid when they don't provide a unique buff/debuff when almost every other class does. I think this is a MUCH better design long-term instead of saying "rogue will always be the best single-target damage dealer, but provides no utility to a group">rogue is fixed, you're welcome
how fast could i level if i just multiboxed a full party of my main class for the first month grinding hyperspawns then just keep the 1 afterwards
>>583359207NTA but posting ancient pre-release interviews of what they thought the game might be isn't the own you think it is. PvP servers were more competitive and had way higher population than PvE, that was where the main game always was and I had a max level char on PvE in vanilla. Before they added x-realm BGs pre-TBC you literally could not even get BGs to pop on PvE.
>>583359469Does your account carry across servers?
>>583359556rogue doesnt need any fixing, blizzard literally said they'll make it the best DPSer in the game
>replying to the anime/gacha spammerdont do that
>>583359493The fact that you even know the 'routes' proves my point. Play video games for fun and find something actually rewarding to put real effort into irl lilbro
>>583359551I mean I'd join you, but isn't Era dead, player count wise?
>>583355158>What makes you think druid will be any of those things except a hard pvp target?Druid will be wanted for raids for the crit aura, unless the devs do some stupid shit like make it a raidwide buff. If they do that the class is dead.
>>583359646>>583359556rogues in forever can have an enchant on their weapon, poisons, sharpening stones, and windfurythe amount of white damage they do is insane
>>583357783As somebody who was very lucky and got this on a warlock with little effort, yes it was broken as shit.Felt like I was playing the game with 2 separate death coil cooldowns. It was glorious
>>583359461sodapoppin has been running on name recognition and since 2011 and has just been coursing ever since, he has never been funny and only becomes relevant when some new drama he forced to happen pops up and is just a genuinely unpleasant person who flames everyone he's aroundsomeone ACTUALLY entertaining and funny from the same time period would've been Hotted
>>583359646Yeah and as he said, that's not good design, that's the shit that gets you left out of the raid if the boss isn't one dude that stands still
>>583359556>Give them something similar to the Pally's Holy Strike. Extremely low damage, 0 energy cost, fixed CD, no combo points or energy generated until you get a talent later for it, is basically there so you have a button to press and aren't just sitting there autoattacking and maybe have more chances to trigger on-hit effects like poisonsRetarded, right off the rip. White damage is not the enemy. You should not be forced to mash buttons every single GCD.
>>583359675I don't know them this takes 10 seconds to google though, do you not have internet is that why you're so retarded?
Why the fuck is this noob using a sword on orc?
>>583359497>enemy is about to die, press drain soulwow so hard dude, you can do it when they have like 0.1%hp and get a shard. I agree that If you don't do this it's fucked but it's pretty simple to do
>>583359556I would not trust anyone who plays retail rogue it's a cancer class that does not even resemble it's original vanilla form
>>583359752Can't hear you over the sound of me smashing my 1 key.
>>583359860That frostbolt ain't going to cast itself, boy
>>583359207all zones were contested zones in the wow beta
>>583359752It's not about mashing, it's the opposite, you're barely pressing any buttons at all as a rogue. He said it should have a 10 second CD because as it stands Rogues actually have one of the lowest APMs in the game.>>583359829He plays every version of the game including the chinese version that has the unique stuff. It's also why he said Death Mark doesn't work as-is in Forever because Titan Reforged fucking showers you with combo points thanks to Tricks of the Trade, you'll barely get any moves off by comparison in Forever if they keep to its 6-second duration.
https://streamable.com/qfaceh>https://streamable.com/qfacehhttps://streamable.com/qfacehfogever bros, it's over.........
inv tank
>>583359680Nah you just boost to get full bis then you can pvp game mode. Or you level hardcore / hc ssf / speedrun and it’s very active leveling there. Era just got more refined than it was before. It’s a real no nonsense game. Theyll also probably do more fresh servers eventually it’s been like 5 years since the last one.
The cracks are starting to show. It seems like the devs don't have a clear vision for a lot of specs and are just taking suggestions from twitch grifters.I will wait to see what they're going to do with my mop classic characters and decide to play retail or just find a new game to play, to be honest.
how do i press one button to auto accept quests / complete quests?azeroth auto pilot and instant auto quests are saying incompatible
>>583360057I am going to subject people to this
>>583360018>He plays every version of the game including the chinese version that has the unique stuffYeah man saying he has zero filter for quality and shit taste, I already thought he was retarded you don't have to try and convince me further
>>583359497This post just gave me ptsd from the blood moon event in STV for sod. I think they'll do something similar to this again. Warlock was absolutely ass to play during that
>>583360018>Tricks of the TradeMy bad, I meant Honor Among Thieves
>>583360045why is it tinted blue? did she drown in elf cum?
Did they approve overtime for the doomers today? Seems like they're milking the post timer for all its worth
>>583360126Bought into the hype but I should have noticed it when I saw Seal Twisting at Blizzcon, it's just being made for streamers and it only became more evident with the whole gold buying fiasco and now Survival Melee Weaving.I'm still gonna play it, but I don't think it'll have anything to keep me invested long term. Least I can avoid most of streamer culture by playing in EU.
>>583360175Questie or leatrix or restedxp or guidelime all have this available in their options. You have to click it on.
>>583359556>as it stands EVERY build has to get this talentif he knew what he was talking about he would realize this means the talents needs to be removed
>>583360126they do seem like they are beholden to the spastics on reddit which is not a good sign
>>583360434Yeah it would be nice for it to be made baseline but if they were going to do it they would've already done it.
>>583359497You can take this perk so you don't spend mana on demon summons and rebuffs. You really only need one point for a huge benefit.
I never understood PvP - even in original 2005 vanilla, I had idiot friends who rolled PvP and leveling was awful, always getting camped by a skull rogue or a group of gankers no matter where you went after lv 19. Finally got my friends to roll PvE and its 1000x better.
>>583360126True. There's so many specs that are just completely non-viable or limited to one extremely specific activity, like PvP. Paladins are forced to wear dresses and heal, shadow priests and balance druids do nothing but go OoM, elemental shaman doesn't even exist, and there's no reason to play any rogue spec except combat. Except that's not even true, because you should just be playing fury warrior if you want to do damage. The developers don't know how to appeal to class fantasy. That's without even getting into imbalanced bullshit like racials, professions, itemization, or races like gnomes and trolls being blatantly unfinished and shoved into other races' starting areas.World of Warcraft is 100% going to flop. It won't even last a month.
How are you guys planning on splitting your time between Forever and Retail? 50/50?
>>583360126This is a good thing unironically, because if Aggrend wasn't listening to them he'd just be giving Paladin 20 more buffs and ignoring the rest.
>>583360057>not taking shadowburn to instant tag mobs
>so yeah I just rolled a class that can tank>I make my own parties and just ignore any dps that would roll on my items>they sit in queue with the other 50000 dps players for hours hoping for an invite
Why the fuck is everyone hyped for new gigadungeons when they remember how ass a full run of BRD is?
>>583360612Haven't played retail in 5 years. Shan't be ever again.
>>583360612I probably wont touch retail again until 13.0 and i dont plan on playing bumass classic when Forever releases
>>583360612100 / 0Last time I played "Retail" was Cataclysm
lazy people
>>583360126understandable. classes play almost perfectly in mop. expecting something similar in forever and just setting yourself up for disappointment
Holy FUCK Alex is retarded
>>58336063430000 of those dps players would get invited if they actually whispered forming parties instead of spamming /4 and hoping someone notices them from the sea of brown and green.
>>583360126what really soured my mood was that retarded dev saying pure specs WILL 100% BE stronger than hybrids and how he was going to make rogues top DPS and how druid HAS to pay the hybrid TAX, like, fuck you, I was going to play druid, now idk if I'll even play the game anymorethe dev team is DUMB, everything is black and white for them, there's no nuance, rogue is a pvp class it doesnt need to do top pve dps, but they are simpleminded idiots
>>583360625dots instantly tag in forever
>>583360612I haven't touched retail since the Battle of Dazar'Alor raid in BfA. I play Forever and MoP Classic.>>583360663No one did a full run of BRD, if you were at appropriate level for the commons and forge then the upper city was way too high level for your group. If you could do the upper city, the commons and forge was at green level and the gear wasn't worth it.
>>583359767He's not an axemaster
>>583360126I genuinly don't understand why they cater so heavily to streamers, I get using them to advertise the game to bring in a few zoomers for a quick buck but actually basing design decisions off of people who never stick with the game for more than a few months after launch is just a crazy decision
>>583360258She's trapped behind a barrier to seal her power
like why dont more people play healer it's fucking easy and you get instant invites to parties
>>583358774I will still play survival hunter exclusively in melee and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me.
>>583360807>the dev team is DUMB>rogue is a pvp classlollmao
>>583360126>>583360781Wrong thread /wowgc/ is over... oh wait pfft AHAHAHAHAHA get the fuck out
>>583360634>so yeah I just rolled a class that can tankMe too, went Shammy, can heal too :)
>>583358297and then you stop laughing after being raped in pvp xD
>>583360864i play healer to suck cocks
>>583360807>and how druid HAS to pay the hybrid TAX, like, fuck you, I was going to play druid, now idk if I'll even play the game anymoreBoy if that upset you, wait until you learn how Druid was in vanilla...
>he genuinely thinks they should balance around pvp instead of pvelol world pvp dudes really think their niche bullshit is popular
>>583359205Hero race unlocked only through a year long questline that will be in at launch but is unreasonably obscure to start.
>>583360565People hear stories about "ebin world pvp bro!!" and think that if they roll on a PvP server they'll get to experience itWhen in reality:>Picked Alliance?Enjoy the game while you can because from level 40 onward questing will become a non viable option due to the hilariously skewed population imbalance on PvP servers that historically favors the Horde, every zone will be on complete lockdown and you will have to corpse run to every dungeon>Picked Horde?Enjoy the occasional pvp when you and 10 other Horde that happened to be in the same area dogpile a random Alliance player who was too brave or too stupid to hide in dungeon spam like everyone elsePvP servers are a giant meme and were horrible in classic and even worse in anniversary, never again
>>583360923you'll pay for this. i'll keep doomposting and concerntrolling until fogever flops, and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>583360864it's fun until your tank has no idea what they're doing and the group defaults to blaming the healer for no reason, tanking is actually braindead and more fun
>>583360565You need to outskill. I have no problem with pvp servers, I don’t get ganked in an obnoxious way. I don’t get camped. My quest speed is generally increased because I can kill the competition. It’s also fun to have these types of pvp encounters over resources, like there’s actually some value to it. Youre probably doing the wrong things. Youre in the wrong places because you’re inexperienced. You rez at the wrong time and in the wrong place and you attract campers because you seem like a prey animal. Gankers notice im not prey and they keep hunting others. Im very hard to kill, they will be chasing me for awhile or waiting a long time. They can just pick up on this, its natural instinct.
>>583359556>Give them something similar to the Pally's Holy Strike. Extremely low damage, 0 energy cost, fixed CD, no combo points or energy generated until you get a talent later for it, is basically there so you have a button to press and aren't just sitting there autoattacking and maybe have more chances to trigger on-hit effects like poisonsNo, retarded. Skills that have no cost to them are bad design. You just press it always, without consideration for anything. A button for the sake of a button is not good design.>delete Improved Distract, it's a dogshit talent literally no one takesWe need dogshit talents too.>give rogues a buff or debuff that only Rogues can apply to a raid. 7 out of 9 classes already have this, give it to Hunter also. It's very easy to exclude Rogue from raid when they don't provide a unique buff/debuff when almost every other class does. I think this is a MUCH better design long-term instead of saying "rogue will always be the best single-target damage dealer, but provides no utility to a group"More garbage design. It's an extremely boring and lazy way to force classes and specs into raids. Oh we need this class in the raid because of this random debuff. If you want to force classes into raids, it's much better to rely on their class identity rather than some random (de)buff. See BWL suppression room, for example. You can play rogue everywhere but still have garbage ideas.
the entire "podcast with the devs" was the stupidest idea they ever had, everyone will hate it, real good devs that know what they're doing don't even how they look like or their real names, the podcast will exist for content creators to "react" with doomer content
>>583360929put on that dress cuck boy and watch other people play the game
How's your theorycrafting going along? On private servers and classic releases I usually roll a hunter and go fuck around in Stonetalon. Oftentimes plenty of targets and it's not a saturated pvp spot so comfy pvp experience. But looking at Forever seems like this approach just won't work anymore
>developers being transparent about what they're doing with Forever is now bad>we need to go back to developers not telling us a damn thing
quicker the pvp scene dies the better it is for the future of this game
>>583361126Every zone is going to be filled to the brim. >one has lower pop than others? It will just have less layers.
why the hell is everyone doing rfc at level 11, i swear it was a level 16 dungeon
>>583361174>we will go HARD against RMT guyse!>give popular streamers slap on the wrist
>>583361174the best dev ever, icefrog, never communicated with the public at all, he just does his job and better than anyone else
>rolled pvp on the beta>ran through hillsbrad and silverpine passing a dozen horde>none stopped to even emote at me>ran from wetlands to stromgarde>hundred horde on the road>none bothered to attack me
>>583361126I'd love to read your post anon, but I'm extremely distracted
>>583361004>world pvp balancewhat is there to balance? it's all just camping lowbies
>>583360509more than that, if it's a mandatory part of that class then it is a sign a poor class design and it is potentially holding back other more interesting changes would deemed too powerful to have along with this talent
>>583361430thisso much THISTHANK YOU
>think i had enough of the beta>get pulled back inho boyive been piling up new and newish games en masse
>>583361386most hordefags in the beta rn are too busy gathering things for their favorite streamer's duel tournament so they are rather docile
>>583360974>be druid player>balance is actually playable>feral got lots of fun new stuff and I'm not forced to powershift or (presumably) farm manual crowd pummeler they're intentionally trolling by auto-equipping feral druid with MCP in the BlizzCon 38 beta and adding an engineering item that adds charges to it>restoration gets early swiftmend and wild growth>my weapon actually matters now>I actually benefit from weapon enchantments>I can actually use consumables and racials without having to burn mana on shapeshifting>spellbear is some of the most fun I've had leveling a druid and actually makes me feel like a hybrid class>mfwAnyone who isn't excited for the druid changes wasn't an actual druid player to begin with
>>583361430good, lowbies need to really that the world is a tough place when they're young
>>583361174Name one good game where devs were desperate for affirmation on twitter.
>>583361126Just find a new spot. The good thing about Forever is that previously underpopulated spots will be very viable to PvP at while everyone is leveling. Pick somewhere that the Alliance have to pass through, but no one actually wants to.
>>583361679Warframe
>>583359556They should also make slam cost 0 rage and have 0 cooldown so that warriors have buttons to press and maybe more chances to trigger on-hit effects like windfury. Just for the sake of fairness, of course.
WoW has always struggled with player retention. It's a recurring issue across Blizzard-Activision games, especially Call of Duty.They'll probably end up having to release new seasons, like "Forever Season 2," just to pull people back into the cycle.
The dungeon XP nerf means as a druid I can farm the WC set while helping others through their first times through it.
>>583361174>we’re going for the mentally impaired audience. We want to provide a game that anyone can enjoy, no matter how low their Iq is. A home away from home, something a tard wrangler can sit his tard down at and get paid to watch him do a raid tier. You will be raiding with tards in forever, and you will only see their dps is a green parse. We at blizzard want the tard wrangler too, so we’ve included lots of bullshit to trick him into subbing. Lots of content padding to avoid the problems of game design. And also endless excuses for content bloat.
>>583359713Nta but you're not wrong. But also the class more or less playing itself because so much of my damage is white damage is not really what I'd call fun. I'm not saying it has to be an "always pressing buttons" spergfest, I have my pally tank in MoP Classic for that, but let me have an APM higher than FUCKING TEN>>583361860>They should also make slam cost 0 rageNo then it doesn't work as a rage dump when you have excess rage, but otherwise you're right.
>>583361174Before the beta, I said that this isn't vanilla and they'll be able to actually change things during the beta. I was shouted down and told that Blizzard doesn't make changes in beta, and the game will go to release completely broken. Now that they're making weekly changes, communicating their thought process, and actively listening to player feedback, it's actually a bad thing, and they should have never made changes in the beta.
>>583361031Was fine for me in classic.
rumor has it the sales and sub numbers aren't what they were hoping for so they're going to 86 wow forever as soon as possible to give us what we all want, a new #nochanges trve nilla fresh
turtle was a better private server than forever
>>583361658We also got an out of combat rez, shits fantastic
>>583362013how does it feel to get shocked all the time
>>583361983hitting a button while spamming ss is asking for you to mess up your gcd and lose dps, unless its off gcd like judgement
>>583362013>fire pvpbased
>>583362141He said it should be, with a fixed 10 second CD
oh the private server dudes are sperging today that makes sense
>>583362013>Warlock desperately trying to run into DM after his failed gank
>>583361080The only time I had a good experience on a pvp server was 2019 classic when i no-lifed and was "ahead of the pack" mained orc (male) warlock and purposely leveled in a "fuck rogues and fuck warriors" spec - I was generally left alone by the alliance I encountered and ganked others when I felt like it, occasionally would get my ass handed to me but that was rare. Also had an enh shaman alt with not even an amazing 2h (mograines might kek) who I would park in STV and purge/skullfuck any gnome mage around my level. Any other class seems to be ganker bait and even the shaman was frustrating when encountering a class that could range me, leveling a paladin for example was fucking awful on PvP - specifically because paladin pvp is a massive time sink, sure I can kill you but it will take 5 minutes of white swings and self-heals
>>583361658I mained druid in vanilla and 19 classic. I was planning to play priest as it was the last class I'm interested in that I haven't leveled to 60 yet. I had done Warlock Hunter and Shaman too.But the druid changes are really making me want to druid again. I want to start dungeon groups as a tank or healer and have a full group within 20 seconds again. I want stealth back for making a bunch of quests way less painful, and to escape rape roaming rape groups. I wanna kite cunts in pvp. It does it all. Hopefully this time bringing more than 1 resto and 1 feral to your raid group won't be griefing
>>583361923>viewerstwitch niggers should just be banned already
>>583361798what kind of char progression/legacy points will you be going for?
>2 tanks needed for 40 man raids>4 tanks needed for 20 man raids>8 tanks needed for 10 man raidsManaging a guild is going to be shit, isn't it?
>>583361842I said good game.
if wow forever were a private server, would you play it? be honest.
>>583361658druid wasn't nerfed yet, but it will be
>>583362273That seems wrong. You actually need 10 Tanks for the 10 Man Raid.
>>583362303Warframe is a good game
>>583362013Great for you, luckily you got ganked by 2 people who were absolute dogshit
>>583361031why are there 1000s of posts from people like this crying about PvP servers but there are never any posts from PvP players crying about PvE servers? It's because these people know they are less of a man for playing PvE and they come here to cope and seethe.
>>583362273>8 tanks needed for 10 man raidsHoly moly tank chuds we eating good!
>>583361284deadmines is a level 16 dungeon
>>583362013wow! with horizontal progression you cant outgear pvp anymorehaha
>>583362315Only if I can buy programmer socks
i am a nigger so i must play orc male warrior
>>583362315of course not
>most people have well over 200g nowso its safe to say wow forever is giga easy mode now right?
>>583362273Yeah I also like the new meta of 8 tanks, 2 healers and 0 dps
>>583362380>He doesn't knowYou need 12 minimum for the 10 man retard
>>583362315If it was a pserver I'd expect them to change more because it they don't have to fear losing subs by being experimental
>>583362264If you're PvPing at all, you're forced into picking the talent point legacy perk, which hopefully gets removed before 1.0 because it is badly designed. Luckily, the streamer tournament is doing an excellent job of showing why some players arbitrarily having a 5 talent point advantage over others is not good for the game.My own choices are irrelevant, I'm just picking comfy ones (scarce materials, flight paths, and fish).
>>583362406>Why are so many people realizing the truth while I sit here drowning in stockholm syndromeGee boss I dunno
PSATHE GAME SETS SECONDARY LIGHTING TO HIGH EVERY TIME YOU PHASE/LAYER/LOGIN/RELOGIT KEEPS YOUR GPU AT MAX BOOST
>>583362492There was nothing else to do but grind money at level cap.In vanilla you spent over 200gold just training your abilities from 1-60
>spellbear>warlock tank>lifesteal fury warrior>survival niggerI'm enjoying the weird builds Forever has produced so far
>>583362492>holy moly
>>583362492thats the same as classic
>>583362732i hope they're viable and not just meme too
>>583362380>>583362432>>583362516retards, you have a 40 man roster and need 4 different 10 man raid groups with 2 tanks each.
>>583362443It's ok I'm used to it
>>583362650>NOOO I CANT BE MILDLY INCONVENIENCED BY PVP IT IS CUTTING INTO MY ERP TIMEgo back to retail please
>>583362657>he didn't buy blue leds
>>583362492Probably made gold from vendoring wands before blizzard nerfed it, it was quite literally an infinite money glitch.
>>583362492fishing is apparently super easy money maker. but i dont hate myself enough to do thati just dungeon and buy what i need, or level alchemy and make my own shit
>>583362492knowing how to actually make money from your professions puts you ahead of 99% of WoW players. this has always been the case. most people only "make" money by listing random items on the AH at a near-loss, never trying to fight against the tide of undercutting.
>>583362804accidental hissan meme
>>583362443you can always outplay themmost horde hindoos on pvp servers are used to group zerg only, the moment it's 1v1 or 2v1 even they are hilariously incompetent
>>583362809You played Horde or mentally rewired your brain to cope, call it
solution to the economy and RMT/botting:wipe everyone's gold every 2 weeks. it forces people to spend instead of hoard, discourages mafias, and makes buying gold a lot less valuable.
>>583362406pve players are too busy playing the game to post, pvp players are always seething between their 10 minute rez time after being ganked by some bis 60 for the 1000th time today
>>583362853how is fishing making money? also, is there any information about the rare / uncommon fish mentioned in the campfire buffs?i always liked fishing and would usually fish greater sagefish while grinding turtles in alterac at level 30, but it never really paid the bills. it was just supplemental income.
we need housing tho
>>583363021green fish are bloated and give gems when you open them, fishing rack gives increased amount of them, no one knows about the rare ones yet they cant get fishing high enough quest is level 35, assuming its the same just rarer gems
>>583363003Gives them plenty of time to rewrite the story in their heads that it was an epic battle with exactly 50 people on their side and 50 people on the other side and everyone had a great time and clapped afterwards
>>583362990Blizzard doesn't care about rmt/botting they want to actively encourage it because a subs a sub, if the cared to stop it it takes a single gm reviewing db alerts for unusual activity every evening, the sooner you realize this and let it go the sooner you can decide if a game half filled with corporate approved bots is worth your time or not rather than back and forthing about how it can be stopped
>>583362990Killing addon support instantly fixes it but for whatever reason WoW is determined to be one of the only MMOs out there that doesn't ban addons (OSRS also allows them and what do you know, they have lots of bots too)
>>583362990Instead of wiping the gold, just introduce an extremely complicated taxation system targeted at the wealthy (with loopholes)
>>583363021Probably because cooking is actually worth leveling early now.Alchemy fish were always decent money in the past too, even low level ones like oily blackmouth
>>583362492What a fucking waste of time kek its getting wiped
I really like professions and making my own gear, but something about mining really pisses me off. It seems to be way more overfarmed than anything else at every skill tier, copper is a pain, tin is a pain, iron is a pain, mithril is a pain, thorium is a pain. And you need so fucking much of it for Blacksmithing.Maybe I'll just go Skinning to sell leather now that they've fixed the multi skin raids and then take enchanting, like the only profession others can't cuck me out of.
>>583363126interesting. even if the prices crash, at least it means that gems won't be ridiculously overpriced and can actually be sourced from something other than random grinding.
>>583363193Tank brosWe won.
>>583362782This isn't vanilla, you have dual spec.
>>583361923Forever seasons with Battle Passes would be cool. Give us some nice transmog skins or something
>>583363240>Undertaker WWE in the GraveyardKino I wonder if paul bearer is his healer.
>>583362972stay on pve where you are safe cuck
>>583363206It's because of all the eingineers.Mining has hotspots too that you need to hang around to get a lot of lvls, notably caves. Herbs and skinning are just spread everywhere so they are easier to level while you are just travelling around
>>583363240>lil foxeithats a man
>>583362948kek
>>583363280yeah one for pve and one for pvp
>>583363174They aren't the 2 games filled with bots because of addons, it's because these are the 2 games where selling gold makes a Venezuelan more money than a month's salary of a normal job there.
>>583363335>Confirmed played it on easy modeGot it, thanks for sharing
>>583363219the 100sp ring probably comes from the higher rarity bloated fish as a super low drop chance desu, would be pretty insane if they could give arcane crystals too
>>583363431you get ganked because you are bad at the game, please stop coping
>>583363280you have to maintain 2 totally separate tier sets in that case
>>583363206For me, it's silver>low supply>high demand>can't actually be "farmed">easy to price fix>can bolster my supply by sweeping through a low level zone every once in a whileSilver paid all my bills in TBCI don't know how the economy actually works on realmless, but my gut instinct is that profession materials are going to be cheap as shit with a few exceptions.
>>583363452It's a dev testing item
>>583363021you can fish up junk crates that have items that you can vendor is sell for money if youre high enough leveljust think of fishing up greys that are worth like 2g
>>583363336This. Mining is kinda fucked in that they can't realistically put a node anywhere that doesn't have some form of rock formation in the world so they're limited in placement. Herbalism? You can put a flower basically anywhere
ngl im kinda disappointed that alex replaced his novels with wow boxes in the back of his camera, I had a good laugh at his books, he had 48 rules of power1984to kill a mockingbirdthe catcher in the ryepretty funny that those novels are his idea of pseudo-intellectual larpingat least get some dostoyevsky or something
>>583363606Do you need to do this at salvage fishing spots like usual?
>>583363336I'm probably gonna be an Undead Paladin (Buzz Lightyear figures in a store.gif) otherwise I'd take skinning/lw in a heartbeat. I hate mining so god damn much god damn but I love Blacksmithing and making my own armor.
>>583363240Can you queue as tank if you're a lock/shammy?
>>583363280>he thinks dps shitters are capable or desire to tankyou're going to be in for a big surprise anon
>>583362013>t3 vs t1 & a nothingdunno why they even tried
>>583362565I scanned through the legacy talents and one of my first thoughts was "how do I optimize for getting the necessary points for Talented" so maybe you are on to something
>>583363174>they have lots of bots tooOSRS basically eliminated bots when mod north became CEO last year, they're still around because bot makers will always try to make more but they're banned pretty fast now and are down to less than 1% of the playerbase, they consciously chose to lose revenue to make the game healthier because they're fine maintaining their current dev team size instead of chasing endless growth, blizzard could never make that kind of decision their former president (ybarra) used to sell runs on stream and left blizzard to go work for a gambling company and he was replaced by someone who used to work in market and growth for the NFL, it's just soulless husks all the way down without anyone who really cares about the game as game and not the game as a product
>>583363336>>583363614Skinning has multiple giga low level sub 10 hyperspawns to farm
Ashenvale sucks to level in as horde
>>583363680It's why I'm glad clothies can go tailoring/ench, where I don't need one profession to feed the other and both work independently.
>>583363654by salvage fishing spots you mean with the floating wreckage yes
>>583362443>he thinks Blizzard even knows what horizontal progression isSweatie... it's horizontal because they won't increase the level cap.
>>583363919Skinning is different, because you can get skins off of EVERY beast it's the fastest to level and farm but also by its nature will always be the least profitable due to oversupply.
Nate higger rest in peace
>>583347008Yeah it'll be Broken Draenei, finally.
>>583364081>pulls numbers out of his ass
>>583361080This really is the crux of it. Non pvpers (bad low intelligence players) just get rolled over 24/7 and conclude that pvp servers are awful 100% of the time
Still happy you won't be able to pay chang to boost you btw
>>583364229You can still pay change to boost you it will just be quest runs now, this hasn't stopped boosting in any way at all
>>583363925It's an alliance zone zugnigger, the night elves' homeland
pvp servers are literally just ignoring each other until one nigger rogue or sometimes warlock decides to show up and kill someone, and then everyone gets put into an annoying situation where the peace is broken, and everyone suffers and has their time wasted
SERVERS WENT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>583364229now you just afk while the mage murders hyperspawns in the world, or a high level boosts the quests
>servers are down again
>loot bop blue bs dungeon plans>disconnectedi fakken swear on me mum
>>583364276>Can only charge once instead of any number of times>Not affected at allNice attempt, boostroon
All i ask for is fresh Era HC servers. That too much?
no thread no servers
small indie company
>>583364229103 gold sellers25000 items for sale1 account90 boost sellersand it is just betalmao you all are pathetic
>>583363632Shut the fuck up sillu
>>583351796>eu pve servers are like 80% germanHow true is this? I mostly see Germans as well but thought that was because I am one myself so the game would layer me with them
What's more fun, warrior or feral druid?
>>583364336In my experience shamans break the peace with a shock way more often
OH MY FRICKIN SNEEDERINO!!!!!!!!! CHUCKED THE FUCK OUTTT!!!!!
>>583364386this isn't the thread for that, go elsewhere
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>583363928Yeah it's pretty great. Maybe I can do Herb/Alch as a Paladin instead, I just really don't wanna be a miner because I just know it will be overcamped because it feeds 2 professions instead of 1 like every other gatherer.
15 bucks a month
>>583364418>all of this in a fucking betablizzardfags are mentally ill
>>583364471>I just know it will be overcampedkill them and take the thorium that is your birthright as a Human
I mean if there's any time I expect instability, it's the beta
>>583364518isn't the beta sub free?
>>583364436same for me. guess Ill wash my dishes now
>>583364572yes
new>>583364594>>583364594>>583364594
>>583364418This is a lie they said they're banning all gold buyers so who would buy this, this is just fake!!!!
>>583364432shamans get less bold at higher levels when they struggle to do damage. Might be different now in forever with the new enh talents, but usually you see shamans become cowards around level 40 in vanilla.
>>583364418>every single boost you can buy is for horde pvptruly the cancer faction
>>583364057>skins off of EVERY beastNo
>>583364418fake
>join a bg>540 atk power hunter>lone wolf>3 shot arrogant mageniggersfeelsgoodman
why are pvers so expressive about pvp servers? could it be they know it deep inside they should be playing on one but dont have the stones to handle it?also it's relatively easy to dodge pvp on a pvp server if you want to, especially with layering on. literally just avoid the most mainstream notorious regions like stv and if it's too much just relog on an alt at diff level at diff zone. imagine crying about pvp in current year
>>583373782whats the point?
