Gnome edition>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>News, dev podcast, dev blogpostshttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>When is it being released?November 4thYou can reserve your first-name + last-name combo starting October 27th.>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Horde (EU on release)<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA on release)<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA on release)oldold >>583300867
rate my priest build
Paladinbros… it's literally over
>>583327346Can I level as destro warlock?
Has anyone got combo points displaying on their personal resource display? The patch notes mentioned them updating combo point art assets for the prd, but I haven't been able to enable combo points for my prd at all
https://files.catbox.moe/invu8p.mp3R.I.P NATE HIGGER
prayer of mending in forever is big since i enjoyed TBC dwarf priest A LOTbut i want to go druid. i dont have to be a tree in this right?
>We don't want people running dungeons repeatedly>
Elf gooner slop NOW. I want to CUM.
What will you play on the hardcore server when it comes out
Bros what is the Rogue levelling spec? The combo-points-on-dodge in the Sub tree seems nice, as well as the better stealth talent being useful. Combat has riposte thoughbeit. Either way it feels like throwing 3 points into improve gouge is very value. I wonder if ass is nice once you can get muti.
>>583327440i dont see why the HELL not
Disable trading to kill RMT.Everyone who disagrees is gold buyer or seller.
>>583327568Maybe Rogue or Druid
>>583327706She has a lot to teach her about woodland creatures.
>>583327583Combo on dodge is actually very bad when you calculate the dps increase. Leveling rogue will respec several times on its way to 60. Gouge is also one of the worst talents.
>>583327706training time!!!!
Anyone on hardcore wanna fuck my druid elf healslut whore?
>pick alchemy to level with>oh boy I can't wait to use these potions for all the cool little buffs like a real rpg>"Target is too low level"How is the game this buggy? Same shit has happened to me with quest items
>>583327583I've tried multiple things and at level 24 it all still feels awful. The least dogshit feeling one was all combat so far but still not great.
>>583327583I think it's just 2/2 remorseless attacks into combat, and you can respec around 38-40 for muti/ambush dagger stuff if you want to.
>>583327583Combat, also dont bother looking at the current rogue talent tree its already been reworked and its just not in the beta.
Is anyone else here a balding man in his 30s?
>>583327583It's always going to be combat. Riposte, reduced sprint CD, blade flurry, and adrenaline rush have no competition in the other trees as far as general usefulness goes.
>>583327706I need more please.
>>583327754>Gouge is also one of the worst talents.Is it? Having a bigger window to gouge then bandage, or making it less tight to gouge>backstab over and over on elites has seemed pretty nice to me. I didn't do any maths on the dodge talent, I suppose if it is bad then you'll mostly play combat for levelling
>>583327854>also dont bother looking at the current rogue talent tree its already been reworked and its just not in the betaHow unfortunate, all I've been doing is fucking around with different talent builds at 20 and now while levelling to 30.
IF ALEXENSUAL HAS A MILLION FANS, THEN I AM ONE OF THEM. IF ALEXENSUAL HAS TEN FANS, THEN I AM ONE OF THEM. IF ALEXENSUAL HAS ONLY ONE FAN, THEN THAT IS ME. IF ALEXENSUAL HAS NO FANS, THEN THAT MEANS I AM NO LONGER ON EARTH. IF THE WORLD IS AGAINST ALEXENSUAL, THEN I AM AGAINST THE WORLD.
>>583327778My rogue will watch her get fucked by wolves
>>583327921I'm probably retarded but I'm new to the game so that's my excuse. I miss like 90% of my attacks including gouge anyways but most of the time when I try to bandage it starts but then cancels immediately no matter what I do. Wtf causes this?
what has been the result of throwing NA and EU fags in together?
>>583327860Yes. We are the target audience for this game.
>>583328064
hd furbolgs should look like this
>>583328075if you have any damage over time effects on the target like garrote, rupture, or deadly poison, those will break gouge. Blind too, but we don't get that on beta
>>583327583probably combat again. rogue is probably the lamest most tedious class to level next to warrior for the old uncs like myself. it was fun when i was 16 but the thought of having to level a rogue sounds dauntingbut max level rogue is fun.
Can i have fun in BGs without being a flag runner as a Druid? I think in every other aspect of the game a Druid could be fun. But i dunno about BGs where i can’t naturally kite abuse people forever
>>583328070if you're horde drop char name <3
>>583328075Taking any damage interrupts your bandage, so if your gouge misses and the mob hits you then it'll break the bandage, or if you've got a DoT applied it'll also break it
So my thoughts about the hunter thing I said in the other thread is that Trueshot Aura should buff agility like the grace of air totem does, it literally solves a lot of problems and makes the hunter useful for the raid.
>>583327495Im retarded and never played priest past classic. Whats mending usually good for. pvp or pve?Penance just looks too nice to give up
>>583327921Youll probably not be leveling with backstab. I mean maybe if you get a good dagger, but if you’re going out of your way for items like the entire strategy thing is going to be almost worthless. My guess is you take remorseless attacks at lvl 10 and 11, then you go combat swords. Don’t take improved evis or improved sinister strike. Theyre bad talents for leveling. Actually you get 1 point in improved sinister strike. Which is weird to set it up that way. You’ll basically never be eviscerating, and sinister strike energy reduction doesn’t matter really that much, because there’s a reset after every pull so it ends up being like 6 extra energy per mob.
>>5833275832/2 remorseless and go into combat and get ripostelearn level 1 kick and gouge and stoponly level up evis, sinister strike, evasion, sprint and poisonskip everything else if you only care about pveits not worth taking the dagger abilities like ambush or backstab since youll never be behind the target, or garrote because its faster to just run and start sinister striking
>>583328142that's concept art from the dragonflight model so they kind of do?
>>583328161Oh I'm retarded I didn't even think about my poisons, that's probably it. >>583328203I thought it was something like that but I've tried in safe areas by jumping off a cliff with no enemies around and it still happens sometimes. Maybe just some beta jank or something.
Darkshore... is so S O V L.
>>583328306needs a beer bully and a fat cock
>>583327921nta but improved gouge is only really good for pvp bandaging, theres no real point in it when you're leveling. You just play combat, face tank stuff and spam riposte when it procs. you just heal pre pull from eating so its a waste to get improved gouge on a situational thing of planning on being in a scenario where you fucked up and need to heal when you could just be doing more damage and killing things faster.poisions might be different this time but still, combat should be the way to level as a rogue unless you plan to 100% be in a party with friends where you can backstab all the time.
I just swapped wives with a night elf. And now my human wife doesn't want to leave him…Did I fuck up? Humanbro paladin here, ret.
>>583328245both. i only used it in karazhan(10 man raid) and duos with a friend in arena so the ping ponging with it was just insanely useful.
>>583328298add slice and dice to the level up list because that actually improves your attack speed
I've decided that if someone BTAG friend requests me, it has to be some connection or else I'm denying it. I don't want to clutter my BTAG friends. I don't want to clutter my discord friends either.
how fun is classic warlock? never played back thent zoomer
>>583328174>warrior>tediousWhen will this meme stop being perpetuated by shitters>instant groups as tank>incredibly fast 1-10 when every other class is resource dependent>incredibly fast 10-20 if you play it correctly (sword n board improved demo shout)>crazy power spike at 30 with sweeping>crazier power spike at 36 when you get whirlwind axe solo and whirlwind >tapers off just around 50 when you start prebis gearing so who cares you’re in dungeons anyway
Did Alex do heroine? Was that why he/she left?
>>583327854I'm looking forward to becoming Kenshiro with the new ultimate sub talent
>>583328209holy baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaased thanks
>>583328497compare warrior rogue to every other class aside from druid and you will see what i mean with the amount of button presses you do compared to them to get the same effect
>>583328440pvp funpve no fun like most classes, you can make leveling pretty fun tho
>>583328298When do you eviscerate, it seemed to just be a worse every other combo finisher basically except as a type of execute ability. And also you definitely can garrote a lot of the mobs because you jump at the last second and stealth too at the same time and you end up like right behind them without any time loss.
>>583328440Fear is OP. Dots actually make you see hp bar go down on people.It's slow though
When Holly said "World of Warcraft Forever is your new permanent home, it's a new beginning that NEVER ends!" It's just obvious to me from this that even blizzard knows that they are audience captured. Fuck wow, fuck gaming, it doesnt excite me anymore, blizzard is washed, im washed, its over. I'm just going yo sell my PC, the parts went up by like $1300 alone.
>>583328209Oh yeah it's cum time. Thanks bro.
>>583328497>>tapers off just around 50 when you start prebis gearing so who cares you’re in dungeons anywaythere had better be a fuckload of new quests from 50+ if dungeon exp is going to be the way it is
>>583328497I remember 20 years ago when I was unkillable in AB, just 1-2 shots every tone and move on. And all it took was around 5 gold-worth of green/blues. If you don't turn in the BG reward you'd just stay at 19 forever. Man those were fun times...
>>583328440I liked mine in vanilla, always felt like had a decent chance of winning a fight (both in pvp and random elites)some people dont like the nature of dots or having to farm soul shards but neither bothered me much
I want fist weapons that don't suck, or at least let me transmog my weapons so it looks like I'm punching enemies to death.
>>583328570if theres no mob density and the mob is basically dead and i dont have the energy for sinister strike
>>583328564>goalpost moving>buttonsLevel 1-10 3 buttonsLevel 10-20 2 buttons Level 20-30 3 buttons>level 30-60 4 buttonsInsanity, you poor thing Warrior is faster thanPriestPaladinShamanRogueArguably Druid due to how shit they are 1-32 Like what more do you need? Warriors are the biggest crybabies on the planet
>>583328581mr burns.jpgIt really is true. You really are here forever.
I can hear the rain but i can't see it... is this... intended? Using max settings and i didnt notice any weather related ones
>>583328440zoomer to zoomer, I found it incredibly fun. you're an invincible god while leveling if you play well, you're a menace in PvP and are one of the few classes that can turn the tables on a gank, and for raiding you have less competition for your tier than any other class because nobody plays warlock for some reason
>>583328731you can transmog into different weapon types
>583328581>Fuck wow, fuck gaming, it doesnt excite me anymoreWho fucking asked?
>>583328753have fun chasing mobs as they run away nigga. bet you forgot thats another thing that goes into the tedium with pure melee characters.
>>583328753No, you don’t get it.If I’m not literally spamming like a hunter and also the easiest level class in addition to beat tank and dps I’m literally suffering a personal holocaust
WC feels so shit with the new EXP changes, the raptor hide shit needs like 1.5 runs and the second run feels useless if your group ever tries to stick together to do.
>>583328838Yeah and where am I gonna get the fist weapons to transmog into besides ZG?
>>583328840*hamstring* heh nothing person murloc
>>583328581Aggrend literally gets all his ideas from twitter and reddit. Which is good, because if he's left on his own he'll just keep buffing paladin like there's no tomorrow.
>>583328840Mobs don’t run before execute range wtf are you talking about, how bad are you?
>>583328497>>583328564the trade off is you're weak alone 90% of the time>get shit on in almost every 1v1 if you don't outgear or outconsumable your opponent>can't solo 90% of elite quests>can just get wittled down by any retard because you lack consistent and strong self heals>useless if there's other tanks available already and cannot overcome bad gear with skill because the class is shit tier retarded straight forwardso yeah warrior is simplistic and for retards for a reason, a player who is willing to play all 3 roles as paladin is far more valuable than any warrior, same with druids, and good priests.
>>583328895we'll probably see new fist weapons at max. shamans whirlwind weapon quest has a fist weapon.
Genuinely think we should kill every Warrior player. All they do is bitch and moan, even when they're the best class in the fucking game all they do is cry harder.
What's he so smug about
>>583328840how will warrior's ever cope with mobs... moving
>>583328753It’s not really about how many buttons you press. Thats a common misconception about classic. Complete RETARDS seem to think less buttons means less skill. The truth of it is im doing legendary parses on retail and in classic because im actually just a legendary player. Just imagine thunderfury is replying to you, im actually that legendary. If less buttons means less skill, id simply not be legendary in both game versions. Anyways i want less changes in the wrong direction. And more changes in the correct direction.
>>583328581The older I get, the more I realize you people take video games WAY too seriously. If you're really bored then fuck off and do something else. You won't though because you're going to struggle to find something else to do because you have no personality outside of WoW
>>583328254>imp ss>bad for levelingSignificantly better than 2% dodge>so it ends up being like 6 extra energy per mob.Did you plan to kill mobs with 2 sinister strikes? The fact that there's a reset after every pull is what makes it better, not worse. This is because it increases the proportion of sinister strike in your total damage. If you were to not regen between fights, auto attack would make more of your damage and the effect of sinister strike would be smaller. Basically, you've got it the wrong way around.To estimate the impact of imp ss you just check how much of your damage comes from SS and multiply that by the relative energy difference. When it's 30% of your damage, it's roughly a 3% damage increase.It's good to note that a 1% damage increase is always better than a 1% decrease in damage taken, because by dealing 1% more damage you kill the mob 1% faster and therefore take 1% less damage. In every damage increase talent, there's a hidden component of take less damage as well.
>>583328914another button to add to the tedium.>>583328932lets focus on the initial post. the characters are tedious. this is all tedious and a pain compared to the other classes.this has nothing to do with being bad. i get that the game has a ton of fuckin retards but you're just strawmanning shit to win an argument instead of really thinking about the big picture here.
>>583328987oh no a whole 10%....
>>583328974hes getting his dick sucked by that hot dragon slut
>>583328974he got invited to asmon layer
>>583328815Yes, we really are
>>583328974He knows he's going to get to fuck Sylvanas in like a decade
>>583329058how fast do you think mobs run
>>583328987yeah keep inching forward with w and ill just keep auto attacking with my hunter, or frostbolting as a mage, or fucking finishing them off with a shock or literally anything.its tedious because you will be doing this for every sort of content FOREVER
the rolling fog in ashenvale at night looks so cool bros..................
they didnt talk about an equivalent to dalaran for horde right? are alliance the only ones getting a new city in forever?
Apparently Nelf wife has a message for you. I'm not affiliated with him. But he wanted this out.
>>583328951Name one open world elite warriors can’t solo
>>583329165>I have to move my character this is tediousgenuinely cannot comprehend how a human being came to this conclusion
>single streamers guild takes up almost all the Alliance side population>people in guild aren't actively playing majority of the time>"community events" are just them zerging zones and preventing people from questing >most people who've played with members report they are complete dog shit and actively griefing >guild leader has openly said he's going to attempt to put a lockdown on recipes and mats forcing people to join his guild>if you speak out against this you're just "jealous" of his popularity>"this is the Classic experience zoomer, this is how games used to be"Horde wins
>>583329263>spam porn all day>this dude is totally the janny and has banned me for no reasonWhat level of schizo do you have to be for this?
>ywn will never be captured by goblin alchemists and turned into a bimbo slut for the hordewhy even live
>>583329263>/wowg/ cuckposter nuked from orbitholy based
>woke up before my alarm thinking about wow again and I've not even played the betawow is back baby!
>583329263>Oh no, the ai slop spammer that talks about "my nelf wifey" or some gay retarded shit got bannedWho gives a shit?
>>583329263thank fuck this faggot is gone
>>583329016It doesn’t really work that way because 1% dodge isn’t making you die 1% slower. 1% dodge is paying off several times that in value due to fight duration. Meaning you’ll spend more time attacking and less time eating. Also worth noting is you won’t always even benefit from improved sinister strike, because you’ll have to sinister strike like 12 times, to make your 13th one free. And the mob doesn’t last that long. Energy reset actually does reduce the value of improved sinister strike because of this. If you were constantly attacking you’d end up paying for improved sinister strike. It was just poorly worded in my previous post.
>>583329263Good, next become an hero.
>Decide to play pvp for the first time>Month away from release and still haven't decided on a faction
>>583329165surprised you can even log in at this rate
>dev says they're taking neat ideas they had in Titan Reforged>try to look up stuff>there's basically no info in english anywhere on this shit
I swear I saw an auction house outside of crossroads and now it’s gone. What the fuck?
>>583329582Theyre bringing back titanforging, hell yeah
>>583329263>post porn 24/7 on a blue board>get banned>this is all a conspiracy against me!
>>583329684Jokes aside Titan Reforged is the experimental chinese server Blizz has where you level to 80 super fast and ALL raids from Vanilla, TBC, and Wrath cycle each week on which ones are currently set to 80 as well as giving a bunch of new abilities to classes
>>583329020Name classes less tedious to level >>583328951>cant solo elitesName another class that solos a quest elite 10 levels above it
>>583329582Here, the ability they mentioned in the stream. Improved Death Mark makes it so it also refreshes Rupture on the target.
what faction has your favorite 1-30 leveling experience and what zones?
How did getting gear tokens in SoD work? Did you get one per boss kill?
Can paladin boost anywhere on era? I think I read prot paladin was just as good as mage at boosting SM. I want to sell some boosts so I can buy a naxx clear and get might of menethil.
>>583330000It's the basic bitch answer but I really love the Elwynn-Westfall-Redridge-Duskwood journeuy
>>583330039Domehead
>>583329516When I'm chaining mobs I don't have time for a full energy reset between them. You don't need 12 SS for it to pay off since you get your 3rd SS on a mob 1 second sooner, the 4th one 1.5 seconds sooner, etc.For Evis I find it useful against hard mobs where you might rack up 4-5 cps
>>583330049Uh, hey buddy. wowcg is down the hall
>>583328895there is already couple in the low level dungeonssaw one green from a quest reward tooalso you can just buy a white one from a vendor
warlock can tank but it's not officially an intended behaviorwill they remove it?
>>583330126If they can do it at max, probably. For leveling it doesn't matter.
>>583330039Based and erudpilled.
>>583329263>a pedophile janny with shit slop banns a pedophile who makes better slop4chins truly is something else
>>583329986>deals 50% reduced damage to playersHate that shit. Either just make the anti-player damage the "normal" damage or fuck off>b-buh muh pveI don't care. I hate seeing that. I hate that PvE and PvP are treated as separate games.Pick the fucking lane and stick to it.
>>583330290I mean, at least it's trying to actually make subtlety pve-viable, something blizz has just refused to do before.
Am i crazy or why does the new little paladin zone have elven music playing?
>>583330226Imagine him crying to mods and then they ask "well what were you doing when he banned you?"
>>583330000for me its durotar>northern barrens>stone talon>southern barrens>thousand needles.love the feeling of venturing into unknown inhospitablel lands and helping your people to create a home.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL.
>>583330226it's the same person with multiple personalities throwing one of them under the bus to feel righteous the jannies on this board all need to be wearing straitjackets and thrown into padded cells for the rest of their lives for what they let happen on here
i haven't paid attention but do rogues and cats get to keep combo points when swapping?
>>583330454combo points stay on the target
>>583330454Yes as long as you don't use any abilties that add points
>>583330290it might not have reduced damage when they add it, that's just the titan tooltip. no other ability in classic/forever has reduced damage against players so it'd be odd to start here
>>583328987Why did they remove the self-heal from this?
how do you even manage to fuck something like this up
>>583330528Didn't roll paladin? Can't have nice things.
>>583329582The only rogue content creator I know of that has played the chinese server is Simonize so unless he says something we're kinda in the dark unless someone here can read mandarin and translate foreign wikis.
>>583330621If they wanted to nerf Bloodthirst properly, they should've turned it into its original, pre-1.6 version.
shield spec and improved revenge has made prot warrior ez mode leveling. and this is with bugged rage on being hit. there's no way this isn't nerfed before release.
>>583330000For the ‘lore’ experience it’s Tirisfal-silverpine-hillsbrad. Anyone that says otherwise is literally retardedFor turn your brain off and grind efficiently it’s durotar-barrens-stonetalon-thousand needles
>>583329582The changes they made to frost mage in Chinese Classic+ didn't make it over.
>>583327454So no one has combo points on their PRD? I suppose it isn't implemented yet
>>583330832I like the Defias story that goes through the human zones, considering it then suddenly comes back like 30 levels later.
Why do i have 0 enthusiasm to play? I log on for like 50 minutes of questing then get bored, i was so fucking hype for forever too
>>583330528moved to gore drinker
>>583330885Hes talking specifically about the rogue skill.
>>583330084If you aren’t casting 6 sinister strikes before your energy bar is 100%, it seems as though you’ll be getting zero value from the talent. Because, it doesn’t carry over between mobs. Basically you’ll just always be casting the exact same number of sinister strikes per mob, with or without the talent. So it’ll be a 0% dps increase technically right? Casting the spell sooner won’t actually improve your dps. DPS won’t go up until you reach the 7th cast of the spell. And, this actually won’t be happening that often. 2% dodge will actually be doing way more probably? What’s the record speedrunner take I guess he’s like the definitive answer here.
>>58333091550min daily is perfectly average gameplay time for normal people bro
so why do hunters get a lvl 45 bowwith no lvl req
>>583330915maybe because we know none of this is carrying over and we will have to level again in a month
>>583330915Sir? The gold farm sir?!
>>583327346So, Sky Elves are in because they couldn't finish Blood Elves in time?
>>583330915Would have been great if we could start at level 30 but can't do that because bots would have amassed hundreds of thousands of gold so yeah not much point to play other than chill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hWoSdgaxk
>>583330915Maybe the doomsissies were right all along...
>>583331101>with no lvl reqthe turnin quest requires being lvl 30 so it's a moot point>>583331293Pretty much, they have big plans for Quel'thalas but apparently it's nowhere near done.
>>583331293no, sky elves are in so that they can ask 30$ for them because they are new
people paid blizzard money to work for themnever not going to be funny as fuckit's an advertising beta and an alpha wherethey're changing major functions of the game
>>583331342Is it still going to be a Horde zone or are they keeping silent about that?
>>583331342???that still nets you a lvl 30 hunter a lvl 45 weaponmeanwhile the lvl 45 other stuff has level req
>>583331424We don't know.
>>583331293They pretty much said high elves / blood elves are coming but they have big plans for their zone and wouldn't have it ready at launch so they didn't want to rush it. They'd rather rush shitty sky elves no one cares about.
>>583329516>Also worth noting is you won’t always even benefit from improved sinister strike, because you’ll have to sinister strike like 12 times, to make your 13th one freeWhat the fuck is this retarded logic? It's not a "use sinister strike 12 times to get one for free". It's a constant energy decrease.If you go to a mob with 100 energy and it dies from 3 sinister strikes, with imp ss you need 120 energy for it (without 135 energy). You SS once, you SS twice, now you've regened 20 energy, and you get your third one. 2 seconds.Without it you SS once, you SS twice. You spent 90 energy, gained 20, you're at 30 energy. You have to wait 1.5 seconds for 15 more energy. Took you 3.5 seconds to kill the mob. A massive difference relatively.For a 5 SS scenario starting at 100 energy?Imp SS: 200 total energy required, so you need to regen 100 energy. 10 seconds.Not: 225 total energy required, need to regen 125 energy. 12.5 seconds.With energy ticks being removed, the difference is also now consistent. You will always be able to sinister strike 0.5 seconds earlier with imp SS.
this shit runs like ASStotal 3080 rape wtf is thisi bet they wont do shit for launch either
>>583330917This is such a bizarre choice when Bloodthirst has kept it's healing component even through retail.
>>583331532Bro im playing on a 1070 but I have a 5060ti coming in the mail tomorrow and it runs fine outside of capital cities
>>583330915Because you are playing a timesink game that has all it's progression deleted at the end of the month. It can be hard to keep going when you know all the progress we make right now is literally worthless.
>>583331532I have a 5060ti and it only runs like shit in town, they said its a problem and they're trying to fix it. Originally they disabled the console command to turn off the fog saying it was a major reason citys lagged.
>>583331532>>583331581turn indirect lighting to fairthis thing R A P E S gpus
>>583331101Which bow? I thought all the hunters were getting the booty bay gun? Also warriors get whirlwind axe at 30, shamans get their ww mace at 30. Priests can get a level 30 wand from BFD at level 19. This stuff is all over the game and it's COOL.
>Ryzen 5 5600>AMD Radeon RX 6600>32gb RamWill I be able to run this game at 60 FPS?>inb4 buy a new pc
>>583330915i got done playin a wotlk pserver and would rather wait forever now. im hoping the community makes it stick more because pservers is all fuckin third worlders
>>583331778Yes, 60 barely fucking taxes this game at all
>>583331764https://www.wowhead.com/forever/item=277254/truthseekers-bowyou can get a lvl 45 bow without req by finding 30 or something books in the worldother classes are lvl restricted above 30 to equip their stuff
>>583330708I'm personally a fan of this.
>>583331516The crux of my argument is that your combo finishers are hardcapped by the number of sinister strikes you’re doing. So you might be able to combo finisher 5 energy quicker, but your dps to the mob won’t go up until you’ve reached an entirely new sinister strike rotation. You WONT have higher rupture or slice and dice uptime by taking this talent, as your opener can already activate both of these abilities regardless of saving 10 energy.
So what classes get fun high ilvl stuff at 30 besides hunter/sham/warrior?
>>583331824Hunters definitely are going to rape in the tournament.
https://youtu.be/VoJof59hwBo
>>583331824the items have a req of level 40or at least should haveso if you're getting instakilled by a hunterthis is gonna win the pvp tournament
>>583331482The entire zone better be a high level zone like EPL and feature a zone-wide raid that culminates in Silvermoon City, with like 20 bosses total and an expected 2 day clear where you do the zone in day 1 and the city on day 2
>>583331812>5060tiThere are people saying they have lag in cities with $800 gpus tho..
>>583331894>with $800 gpusThat's how much I spent on this fucking thing....But anyway it's probably because they're playing with the new lighting at max or something, with the 1070 it just gets a bit stuttery in the trade district of SW, otherwise it runs fine.
>>583331842> your dps to the mob won’t go up until you’ve reached an entirely new sinister strike rotationYes it will, because sinister strike isn't a 0 damage ability. You can take combo points out of the equation completely. I'll gladly take a 10 energy sinister strike that doesn't generate combo points. You can keep your 45 energy ss that generates 2 combo points if you want.
>>583331957It most certainly wont run "fine" with a 1070 when my 5080 is getting low 70s at 4k on max
>>583331830That they never did anything with rogues and their throwing weapons, like making a spec that's all about throwing weapons, speaks volumes.
>>583331993Oh I was doing it 1080p at 60, I'm not exactly pushing this game
I can’t decide on what to level and it’s fucking infuriating Had the same problem in 2019, leveled a hunter to 60 got bored and leveled a war to 60 right afterI think Druid but I’m not sure if they’ll be fun to PvP on. Boomkin does seem kinda fun in raiding tho Then there the problem of faction, i guess alliance?
How far into wow forever's launch will it take before despair sets into the playerbase?I'm guessing about 10 weeks.
>>583331958You won’t be casting a 10 energy sinister strike. Youll be sitting at 30 energy, waiting for 10 more energy so you can cast another sinister strike. If you’re not casting 7 sinister strikes, and you’re not using more combo finishers, what’s it really doing anyways. Nothing, you’re getting no DPS increase. 2% dodge is 2% damage, actually slightly higher it’s more like 4% more dps.
>>583331957I'm running on a 5700xt with mediumish settings and it runs fine until big cities and player filled zones. My problem is, if it's having issues on beta it's going to be way worse on launch when we have 10-20x amount of players.
Why the fuck didn’t they add a new low level zone (not counting zephras)1-30 is the game most people have played into the fucking dirt. Everyone knows every single quest in the barrens, westfall redridge silverpine loch Modan and darkshore inside out. Yeah they added some new quests that are to be fair objectively neat. But why not have something 15-25 to break up the fucking monotony
>>583331993Im on 5060ti and at 1080 60 too until im in town.
>>583332204Yeah but it'll be fine after a couple weeks once we've actually spread out into the world
>>583332041>>583332217Fair i've said nothing good sirs
>>583330000anyone who mentions a horde experience is lying
is warlock fundoes warlock have mana problemshows the damage in pve areas dungeons oslo
>>583329263I wish I was a mod, maybe the site would actually be good
>>583332213There are already too many low level zones for alliance at least. Many times I never even see Loch Modan or Darkshore because westfall+redridge+deadmines+stocks ends up with me getting funneled into ashenvale or wetlands when I'm done.
>>583332342Can we not have some weird faggot haunting the general please? This shits unnerving as fuck on almost every other general
>>58333221335-40 was in need of a new zone, most people just skip it with sm grind but you cant do that anymore.
>>583332330all fine unless you are an alliance warlockthen most of the enemies are essentially immune to your curses, banes and fear
>>583332046the problem with alliance is that it will have asmonfags but that will probably only last like a week
>>583332213We have so many low level quests and dungeons now that you can outright skip a bunch of low level zones. If they are going to add more questing zones then 1-20 ones are NOT the level range they should be at.
>>583332001The fact that neither Hunter nor Rogue can do a Shadow Hunter throwing weapon spec is very disappointing
>>583332213all of the 1-30 zones are already the best part of the whole game. everyone remembers most of them fondly, nobody loves places like searing gorge and desolace
Good Morrow
>>583332401Fifteen straight fucking days of this shit, in every single fucking thread
>level cap is 30>we can get up to level 35 of talent points with legacy pointsThey really should have set the level cap to 35 so we could test out all the capstone talents
>>583332213Don't even need to add new zones, new quest hubs in "contested" zones would suffice.
Alteraci and Defias Humans datamined
IM AN ALTOHOLICI DONT HAVE A SINGLE CLASS ON 30 NOR 20I CAN NOT DECIDE
>>583332186>You won’t be casting a 10 energy sinister strike.You're too retarded to even understand hypotheticals. Does your brain even work? I was talking about a hypothetical 10 energy sinister strike that doesn't generate combo points. Absolutely nothing is getting to you so this will be my last post. You can look at literally any leveling spec guide. You can look at literally any rogue leveling speedrun. You know what they have in common? Literally all of them pick imp SS. Here's the fastest rogue 1-20 speedrun. Does he pick imp SS? Of course, right after remorseless attacks. There is not a single person who doesn't pick imp SS. You're not a genius who has figured it out. You're a retard who can't into math. Maybe that's an insult to retards, because even retards can see that an energy reduction on their primary damaging ability is good and pick it over dodge.
>>583331871ai sovl
>>583332213The focus of launch wasn't new zonesNew zones are coming later
>>583332485You were definitely over geared for the content. Just imagine doing MC but you’re in full BWL bis. Obviously it was boring. You were doing like 300% more dps than it was scaled for. And literally you had 800% more damage mitigation. Like it was actually that big of a difference. Im not really having fun until after STV when the difficulty increases. The late game zones are way more challenging. Everything’s like a maze and the mobs are doing more than dps than you can imagine.
>>583332697Same but in the real game I have like 40 characters at 80
>>583332697Lol I know the feel.Just pick one and level while knowing you can always level the alts later.
>ghost wolf at 20>you get talent for it at 15Why did aggrend make wolf lvl20 again?
>>583332838>the real gameThe level cap is 60, retard
>>583332697dedicate yourself to 1 character first then all the alts will be easier and faster to level
>>583331871easy win for blizz to add a skateboard mount in wowf
>>583331101>>583331824$1000 say Blizzard nerfs this into the ground before the PvP tourny Hunters rocking lvl 45 bows at lvl 30 is absurd
>>583332838>>583332883>>583332957i can't :(i wanna experience all of them
>>583333003you need a daddy to pick one for you
>>583333003but you can level the alts later, just get at least one to max.
>>583332940>arcane blast at 20 (15 with legacy)>you get talent for it at 10 (5 with legacy)WTF?!?!? Come on Blizz!
lookin' at da dark arts mon
>>583333003then start boxing
europeans are antisocial assholesI cant wait for NA servers again
>>583333139Good one...
>>583333098Don't look at improved fireball.
>>583333098Please kill yourself retard.
>>583333161they dont buff peoplethey steal chests and nodesthey roll need on everythingthey get mad when people say good morning at "the wrong time"
>>583332981fixed
>>583333217But enough about americans screaming about politics all day long and doing that too
Thes enhancement talent tree looks especially shitty and unupdated.Devs left enhancement out of the wowf shaman spotlight and claimed it was getting its own video.Does that suggest tank shaman is coming? 2H enhance?
>>583333216why are you so chronically unhappy
>>583333192
>Came back to play WoW Forever>Start playing Midnight because might as well kill a month til release>Decide I like retail more anyway
so im missing something or is this gonna be just era where we raid log into hyjal into mc for 3 months endgame?
>>583332739Yes because they frequently pull before energy reaches 100%. And will reach that 7th sinister strike. But the talent is definitely comparable to 2% dodge. So look at it this way, it’s about a 10% increase to your sinister strike damage, assuming you can activate it by chain pulling. If you kill one mob without chain pulling, you’ve now lost half of its effectiveness. If you kill two mobs, it’s another 33% loss. If you activate the extra attack now after two errors, you’re only receiving a 3.33% increase of DPS. So these speedrunners are actually just relying on their ability to activate the talent at least every 3 mobs. And, many sections of their speedrun, would be better off taking dodge. But they can’t respec every time so they just take it because it’s very comparable.
>>583333139>>583333217ur so mad bro
Due to spell power changes, do you think it's going to be harder to level as ret paladin and heal dungeons. I did the Hall of thanes on my level 14 pally. I had 4 pieces of healing power + int gear and it still felt like I was just barely able to keep my tank alive on most pulls
>>583332981yjk
Im having a miserable time as a lock leveling to 10
>>583333341normie gooners have such soulless tastes
>>583333285You'd understand if you had to deal with retards on daily basis instead of just being one of them.
which setting do I need to adjust in order to see the rain? I hear it but I do not see it.
>>583333234kek
>>583333435 /console WeatherDensity 3
every bracket should have an elite zone you need a group for
This isnt normalIts SO fucking dark holy shit
>>583333310>so im missing something or is this gonna be just era where we raid log into hyjal into mc for 3 months endgame?noenjiy
>>583331778Purchase a new pc :)
Class for this feel?
>>583333139Oh boy, surely you won't list your reasons that end being shit literally all human beings do no matter what region they're in
why are you meta chasers?
>>583333614SOVL
>>583333787Nah, NA classic realms are chill as fuck on classicmeanwhile wow forever beta and turtle are fucking hell and inhumanmust suck to be subhuman and think that's normal
>>583333353Why? Its the only class with a pet before 10
>>583333435Thank you
>31 more dayslast time i looked it was still 38... we're actually almost there bros... we're so close to going home
>boohoo my dungeon xp boohoo i want my vietnamese booster to level for me boohoocan these guys shut up already what a bunch of lil bitches
>>583333872Imp does nothing, im oom 90% of the time
>>583333794You haven't even SEEN real meta chasing yet. Just wait until the duel tournament. Whatever wins is what half the fucking playerbase will roll on launch, despite a 1v1 level 30 event meaning fucking nothing in terms of endgame.
>>583333923Ill will never understand why people want to skip 90% of the game by doing the same dungeons over and over again to then do other dungeons over and over again.
>>583333546I do not see the rain still.Thanks anyways for the 'sponse.
>>583333843yup. pservers are absolute alien hellscapes because of this too. wow is super fucking hollow when you remove the community and it reflects real life a bit if you wanna get gay about it like me
>>583333923I keep seeing these faggots say "NOOOO I JUST WANNA DO THESE DUNGEONS MULTIPLE TIMES"YeahYou can do them even MORE now if you like!
>>583333341i think it will be okay but paladin always felt weak at healing in the early levels
>>583333743me on the right
Americans really got butthurt about europeans laughing at their constant politics talk and shit like the Assmongoloid retard squadThey've been seething about europeans in these threads every day since
>>583333981>>583334002>>583333923unironically retailbrains remember the past 10+ years of retail have tamed their adhd brains to rush rush rush and fomo every second of playing that a slow breathing world feels hostile to them
>>583333981The open world mob respawns where so fucking slow in 2019 classic that I don't blame anyone for wanting to dungeon grind instead. Questing was fucking miserable.
are these youtubers retarded or is the game really just permanently foggyi dont have beta
>>583333794I'm not a meta chaser, I just play what I find cool / enjoy.
>>583334134this is not 2019
>>583334095
now the devs said they want change apm, which spec do i need to roll to auto afk and be guranteed a raid spot as prot pala has no kings?
>>583334195Yeah you should try to understand it retard
>>583333794you are about to play a game for hours of your life and some people want to make the best of what they got.
day 3 of having slept about 2 hours because god knows whylets level something like a warrior or something col
>>583333614hide names
>>583334160you WILL press a button every gcd and you WILL enjoy it
>>583334401
>>583334002Yeah I would like to. Dungeons are a more higher skill environment than this version of run from A to B, collect xp rewards. If they reduced dps and mitigation the questing experience would become fun again maybe. Im assuming they’ve tried hard quests before and for some reason it’s just not a good idea. These quests are actually going to be retard mode though. Hopefully you understand like it’s actually going full retard. It’s actually zero risk, zero challenge, boring as fuck, barely even a game. That’s a walking simulator. That’s actually why half the posts are about how nice the new weather effects look instead of people talking about their crazy whimsical wipes or anything I don’t think I’ve seen even one post about something that happened in game. It’s actually a fucking clown show. Actually true dude this is pathetic.
What's the tranny situation like in WoW? Highly fuckable? Might come here from XIV
Why is belf starting zone without a doubt thefastest and easiest zone to level 1-14
>>583334607its from cata
>>583334636Im considering going to that zone for every new character they even get greens out the ass
>>583334670If you love it so much to do it on every character you should try retail
>warriors 2h auto attack is 1.2x stronger than pallieson GOD warriors are strong
>>583334636Belf starting zone is from TBC retard.As is the Draenei one.
>>583334715How about no
>>583330915thisits so overive got full bis at 30, now what? i can only play 2-3 more classes
I just saw tipsout is the lvl30 duel organizerRemind me again why we hate him?All I can remember is him being shit at the game
>>583334718>seal of crusader judgement seal of righteousness auto hit holy strike on the first melee swingnothing personnell kid
>>583334821CLEAR COMMS
nerf hunterstheir too op
>>583334821
They should've added a Free-For-All PvP ruleset.
>>583334864cute
>>583334821he raped alex and wowfg is alex territory
>>583334821>irl scam artist>knows nothing about wow, hopped on classic hype train>acts like a pro, regularly humiliated on stream>doesnt know how raids work but raid leads like an angry sperg>realizes hes a joke, stops being a streamer to instead manage streamershttps://youtu.be/sAb9lQ0u1t8
>>583332330warlock is funwarlock does not have mana problemswarlock damage is goodthe only real time to worry is pvp if you're on the alliance side
>>583334985i dont know much about classic warriors that faceroll keyboards to do dps but uh im guessin he should be using demo shout here?
>>583335037they just need to add a free for all pvp zone and ban you if you collude
Your raids WILL be 80% Skyborne, chud!
>>583334941nelf hunters
>>583335094>warlock does not have mana problemsThe first 12ish levels it does and its unfun
>>583335168get a wand dumbass
>>583332330they got a lot of sauce but have no mana problems. but i find them to be the most boring fuckin casters for some reason. might be just the fact its all dots and passively just doing nothing. also no mobility options, but they get a "free" mount and a lot of other utility.i just can't get into them personally.
>>583335185Wanding is not playing warlock it's wanding and THAT is certainly not fun
>>583335149Fagborne isn't even very popular on beta where everyone has access to one
>>583334360they should try to make the best what they got in real life. games are for fun.
>>583335305some people find building efficient factories, a perfect sim house or building things nice and neat in their city gamesthose can be fun too right even if they seem like workjust think of it like that with "meta chasing"
interest ya on a pint
>>583335254Not giving elf shaman to alliance is what kills that race.
>>583331860hunters have been the best level 29 twinking class since vanilla so not sure why anyone is surprised. It's also going to ruin the class as every mongoloid plays one because of their level 30 performance
Darkshore is S O V L
>>583335215>>583332410>>583335094damniti played lock at the end of wotlk and shit was funi might just level one on release thenthank anons
the game unironically dies if they don’t add personal loot to raids
>>583335125Nah, collusion is the entire point of free-for-all in an MMO.
>>583335409i want to live there
>>583335437forgot to add im trans btw
>>583334821Doesn't he run a gold selling service
You know it, he knows it, she knows it, everybody knows what's about to happen.
>>583335437desu i dont care either wayalso i love trannys
>>583335540post your wow logs please
>>583335583Why does that undead have a gnome name?
>>583335437they should just make bosses drop an extra item
>>583335074>>583334916kk, I remember the shitshow now lmao
you think they will add some form of death knight in the future of forever?
>>583335628post bussy
>>583335712i hope so. frost dk is the best thing about wow
>>583335712Would be the dream. DK is my fav class.
>>583335712yeah when you die to baron rivendare you have an option to be resurrected as a death knight
>>583335712yes but it will be warcraft 2 death knights
>>583335437why do you say that
>Affliction is one of the most comfortable leveling specialization once you get used to managing your Health, Mana, DoTs, and your demonsounds AIDS
are they doing anything about the fuckin soul shard situation? like makin it easier to get at least?
>>583335817When WotLK was announced I assumed you would create deahknight by turning your old character into one, reinforced by the whole you need to be level X before you can make one thing and it being unique "hero class". But then disappointment struck.
>>583335712Yes, but make it a sub class of paladin you need to sacrifice your 60 pally for
>>583335914sure but priest is even comfier because your mana and health is always 100%
enjoying the late night out mon
Kinda amusing to see people losing their fucking minds at not being able to spam dungeons all the way to 60.
>>583336007yeah they said you can store them in your ass
>>583336007one of the legacy point options remove reagent costs from class spells
>>583336092then gnomes wouldn't be able to carry many
>>583336013i remember they said there would be a quest to unlock dks before they made it a lvl 55 req
>>583336034priest has no t anky pet they die in 3 hits
>>583335817Blizzard would never do something cool like that.
>>583331871kek based
>>583336157>most health>most armor>shield blocking all dmg taken>can self heal>die in 3 hitsyeah no
Wanna play worloworlo hard mode?Play a warriorMedium diff is clothies without a petEasy mode is pally and hunter
>>583335914>scroll wheel up pet attack/scroll down pet passive>cast sequence agony, siphon life, corruption>press drain lifeit is very comfy, not to mention you can do this on like 6 mobs at a time so it's also very fast questing
>>583336157nah priest is almost unkillable while leveling you can only die if you pull a group
>>583336219>>most armor>>583336272>priest is almost unkillable
>>583336243just add /petattack into your castsequence macro
Tanning rack????
>>583336078>but I like to play a healer (aka be afk) what am i supposed to do now?????
>>583336284explain how you die without pulling 3+ mobs
Does druid have hurricane in this? I used to enjoy dropping the occasional hurricane in dungeons if healing wasn't needed to compete with the dps.
>>583336290you can do that too but i like having a lot more control over it. you can send your pet to pick up more mobs while you're not even looking in that direction then set it to passive to pull them all closer to you
>>583331894There were some bugs at first, it got smoother.
woodworking? inscription?? jewelcrafting???
>olympus balkanmaybe the worst thing I've ever readimagine the subhumanity
>>583336284>>583336324check AH
i want to play as a plagued rat
>>583334821pilav DESTROYED him
>>583336284reminds me since i dont have the beta. did they rework Inner Fire?
>>583331845rogue doesnot sure who else
Is shadow priest a meme?
>Macro'ing a spell breaks hold to castSad times.
>>583336393literal chad
>>583335230is leveling extra slow FUN?
>>583336243Based wand at level 5 and you're a king
>>583336078This expansion is mostly being catered to the mentally challenged. People with learning disabilities. People with physical impairment. Homosexual men and any type of degenerate pornography consumer. Welfare recipients who can’t manage to get out of bed for very long. And also retarded blizzcattle who seem to be a class of retardation unrivaled even by the legitimate retards.
Remember we must support everything blizzard does no matter how gay or lame, it's the only way we can bring about Hitler 2.0
every class should get special racials like priestevery class should get more class questsevery class should get a minigame profession
>>583327346Rest in peace nate higger
Darkshore is so comfy.Flying back to Teldrassil to go to a Herbalist Trainer and Druid Trainer.It's nice. The Darkshore and Teldrassil complex.
why is warrior fun?big 2hbig damagesure theres 0 self healbandages are SHITEbut people adress you with the proper respectthey buff youthey inv youthey know you do the damage
>Just found out you can't mail items to opposite faction characters on PvE.For what reason
>>583336583>every class should get a minigame professionwtf does this mean
>>583336634your night elf looks kinda strange there friend
>>583336683they are at war
>>583336634>Darkshore is so comfy.yeah I remember getting groomed there by a milf ERPer when I was 12 and first started playing
>>583336663also plate gear looks sexy af
For WoW Forever launch, to make money, what are the best profs? Gonna play hunter.Based on the actual beta numbers, it looks like Mining + Enchanting (Disenchanting) is way to go. Skinning and Leatherworking only funnels greens to the Enchanters.
>>583336552WDYM
>>583336683
>>583336685like rogue lockpicking, mages scroll thing probably
>>583336634Dude you didn’t die even one time you didn’t do anything interesting. Youre literally playing second life with some crappy RPG premise so you don’t feel completely homosexual.
>>583336693yep, I intend to level a Night Elf Male Resto && Bear Druid ( Dual Spec ), but I started my first character off as a Sky Elf Male Balance Druid.
>>5833332622h is what they want for ehn. The game is honestly still in development so a lot of things are unfinished and are being reworked. I have a feeling they did a quick initial pass on every class and then started working on content, only recently did they go back to looking into classes. Rogue for example is gonna receive talent changes to subtlety.
>Gnome priestWhat the fuck? What lore even supports this?
>>583336683>you now remember the neutral AH smuggling
>>583336078the nitwits can still spam all the dungeons they want in order to level. in fact forever gives them room to run even more dungeons than ever before in classic to get to lvl 60, which should be welcome since they supposedly enjoy it so much.. the real shit they are crying about is that spamming dungeons no longer gives more exp than questing, which is exactly the stated goal of blizzard with forever. the real hidden complaint is people angry that the time to 60 is being made longer.
>>583336760Enchanting is what your bank alt is for, silly goose.
>>583335107Demo shout would be good but the main problem is he runs too far from his healer. His healer was probably a slow retard, but he should've been watching his healer's position before engaging the boss. In his defense maybe he was new to WoW (idk him), and that is the first boss that is likely to kill you as a tank, so maybe he didn't understand that it could rape him.
>>583336760if you are playing a hunter you best way to make money is by killing monster since you are the very best at itskinning or herbing is waste of time when you could be killing more shit
>paladins easiest 1-10>warrior hunter medium 1-10>rogue warlock hardest and most unfun 1-10You should start with an imp at lvl 1You should start with one other skill unlocked at lvl 1 rogue
>>583336803Second Life is based. I'm an RPer so I savor this stuff.
>>583336825What lore doesn't support it is the real question.
>>583336742yes mon that too
>>583336952The Secular Gnome Mindset• No Gods: Gnomes do not worship higher spiritual deities or personified gods.• Focus on Tech: Their society centers around invention, mechanics, and empirical data.• Pragmatism: They acknowledge that powerful cosmic forces like the Holy Light or Shadow exist, but they treat them as quantifiable tools or physical energies rather than objects of religious devotion.
Reporting this FUCKING QUEST ON GOD THE DROP RATES ARE SHITTTTTTT
>>583336760Merching is by far the best way to make money. You just play the AH, and profit off of losers. Professions are almost never even remotely comparable to skilled merchants. Gathering professions and disenchanting are particularly worthless, only serving to provide like a small starting fund to get you going. Crafting items can be worthwhile but you’ll really want every profession at max level. And, it’s just like a small source of your total profits. So, blizzard has designed profitable crafting before, but they usually don’t. Usually it’s like hardly worth doing like you can actually argue it’s just fine to not do any professions for gold making, and you won’t miss out on anything of value.
My friends want to play horde but I think I'm gonna go alliance instead.
>>583337115Just like real life huh
why is every talent in the affliction tree so good how do you sacrifice any of it for demo or destro talents
Kind of lame that they're holding back class combos like dwarf mage and troll druid for future live service patches
My wife is Goddess so it's always cool to see a Goddess Temple. I like how the Priest trainers are here, that is very thematic.
>>583337115>Merching is by far the best way to make money.merching? what?
>>583337115>You just play the AHIm sadly too low iq to do this cant wrap my head around it nor do i have the time in my day to just look at graphs
>>583337113We got another one, boys.
seal of fury is absolutely insanehow is this shit allowed
My retard frens will roll alliance and I just experienced how fucked alliance is. How can there be already a faction imbalace? Horde everywhere... you can't fight in contested zones.will the launch be horde favored? Or is this just because of ud pallies in the beta?
About to hit 30 on an orc shaman and im getting the urge to play a Human paladin
>>583337248>anon discovers why prot pallys are op
>>583337279How was it? Shaman that is
>>583337083>They acknowledge that powerful cosmic forces like the Holy Light or Shadow exist, but they treat them as quantifiable tools or physical energies rather than objects of religious devotion.There you go, then.
>>583331334I did the dungeon and agree with alex here. it is shit. 3 bosses? really
Here's your bg warlock build.
>>583337315>priests without devotionwhy would the light bless them with divine power?
>>583337248Yeah I'm probably making a paladin after I get my Shaman set up.
>>583337115do the typical ah addons work in the beta?
>>583337386They are priests not paladins.
>>583337309I enjoyed it, i healed a lot of dungeons and you hit like a truck in open world as enhance. I feel like you still are an auto attack bot minus earth shock till much later and healing doesnt get complex until 40+
>>583337386You should ask grok how light works.
>>583335712I think Forever in general is gonna get overloaded with new races and classes so they have an excuse to sell more bundles. You can already tell these will be the main moneymakers for Forever since xpacs won't exist.
I'm trying to decide between paladin shaman or priest, which one is strong in pvp? I don't really care for PvE dps since I'll most likely be healing unless some strange turn of events lets me be a memespec.
>>583337474Not him but Warcraft paladins are literally priests who took up arms.
>>583337475Dropped enh after lvl 14 1-10 was a breeze but after that even with a good 2h weapon it felt kinda weak dunno whyAlso go with the human pally
>>583337516Warcraft priests can cast shadow spells but paladins can't
>>583337113I have rolled troll/orc so many times and have never finished this quest. It's drop rates have always been astronomically shit.
>>583337352what about tank warlock build?
>>583337083>ai overviewHoly faggot jeet larp.
>>583337562Sent 10 feedback reports homefully
>>583337559All 3 spells of the wc3 priest are holy spells.
>>583337503priest is always good in pvp
>>583337491yeah forever was only greenlit by the suits at blizzard on the promise that it could be monetized in some way beyond the monthly sub. if box prices for expansions arent going to be a thing, then they will simply start selling other things periodically. the token is for sure coming too.
Lvl 1 PvP mode.You can PvP your own faction.Zones are capped to 100 players.You can group up in this mode, but will be more likely to phase with other groups.Guards will attack you if you PvP in front of them. Thats it. Im trying to imagine one of you doesn’t turn this mode on.
>>583337559Changes nothing but sure.
Dungeon XP nerf was implemented badly. GL trying to get a SFK group as an ally after most future raiders have left that level bracket.
>>583337559i now want a dark paladinnot a death knighta plate melee that uses dark spells
What will happen with the dungeon changes is:>WTS dungeon boost all quests ready to summonYou pay the small brown and he summons you in, shares quests with you, blasts through the dungeon and repeat with the next one. People will line up in droves to buy this service with their swiped-for gold.
>>583337636We're playing WoW though, things have changed. >>583337662Yes it does, they are literally not the same anymore.
>>583337491and a million retards will cry on the internet that they need to pay for a new class and/or race despite that always being how WoW worked when one got introduced and you needed to buy the latest xpac.
>>583337736Thats why you level a lock first
>>583337736Apparently SoD had a thing where having a high level in your dungeon made it so you couldn't get quest progress. Don't know if it works the same in Forever.
>>583337491Good have expansions just be other races MAYBE a new class or two
>>583337736I too want to see wow forever fail and die
>>583337475>not using lightning shield>using earth shock over flame shock>no searing totem
>>583337567Is this the correct warlock tank build?
>>583337736So what’s the actual specifications for a GDKP van. Can you still buy like a warrior raid boost pack which includes all plate drops and a weapon drop? Or is it specifically bidding and sharing the money from the bids. If there’s no bidding is it still considered gdkp? Boosting is obviously allowed like what if I wanted to buy a skinning boost so he would skin my mobs for me. Or an elite quest boost from a hired mercenary who was higher lvl.
>>583337842>MAYBE a new class or twoWith Blizz already doing surveys on new classes before Forever is even released tells me that they plan on adding a LOT of them over time. It's gonna quickly surpass retails +4 new classes.
>thirty days>thirty nights>thirty fucking days and nights
pls post enhancement shaman leveling builds
>>583337947Based
>>583337556Rockbiter AA which is shaman's main source of damage gives melee attack power which is affected by enemy armor.
>>583337491Yea...that will only work if they make stuff people want to buy, they've shown great aversion to giving their player-base what they actually want, they've actually show multiple times that they love doing the opposite to subvert your expectations
>>583337962https://mobalytics.gg/wow-forever/classes/shaman-leveling-guide>>583337993That might've been why i felt weaker after level 10 yea
>>583337939Buying item reserve is completely fine. Auctioning loot is not.
>>583337891that screenshot was mostly for vibes, also you like 3 shot shit as a shaman using rock biter and strength totem so no need for all that set up and mana
>>583337567It unfortunately needs a couple more points. Problems:You definitely want soul link, and since you're that far, you want MD as well, and then you have to put a point in pact for a free 15% damage. But then you have only 20 points left for destro. First tier is easy, second tier is easy, but then you run into problems. You'd want both ruin and shadowburn (quick burst to pull a mob off of someone). You could get both, but then you run into another issue. You want everything on tier 4. If you don't pick pushback reduction, you won't get searing pains off. If you don't pick agonizing flames, your searing pain won't do as much damage. Conflag is the least good out of them but could help too.
My greatest fear is that all the ability, talent and gear changes mean you just steamroll mobs and blitz through dungeons. Please tell me this isn't what is happening
where's a good spot early on to get cloth as horde for tailoring
>>583338045Lol that’s actually so retarded. Youll just be bidding on discord instead so blizzard cant watch the chat. Like you cant possibly expect that to work. If somebody is offering more money, do they just say no? I actually don’t understand what they’re expecting to happen.
Whats the point in rolling warlock if a mage does more dps and has buttons for invulnerability and mobility
>>583338006WoW players already buy the most pointless ugly bullshit from the retail shop. Selling race/classes will be easy.
>>583338236>more dpslol
>>583338143not only that but you have shitton of campfire buffs and shit
>>583338027>mobalytics.mumbai>night elf is the best alliance race for prot warrior
>>583336284priest is super safe to play solo unless you pull a group you can't handle at once (and even then you can sometimes just leg it if psychic scream doesnt screw you)
>>583338191blizzards entire frustration going back years is that people refuse to organize themselves into guilds and play with their friends. players today have an incredibly mercenary attitude to the game. they want to be able to log in, join a pug saying as little as possible to the other players and get a chance at some loot, but this is a very degenerate setup.
>>583338236mage is pretty boring. im not playing warlock either, but mage is pretty boring
>>583338236world of poocraft wasn't created to be balanced or make sense, in fact, the fact that the new dev team decided that the game should be balanced is going to bring everyone an immense amount of pain
>>583337837>have the carried member tag the mob>drop group kill boss>reinvite
>>583338236pet succyfree horsemore cool
>>583338294You'll be ordered to heal as a priest
arms gods looking quite kino deep wounds is a meme even if it can crit now
>>583338334The entire point of buying carries is so you can sit around while someone else does all the work. Nobody is gonna go through with this mob tagging shit for every retard who wants to buy a carry.
>>583338363i dont think raid leaders care about that
>>583338236is muh numbers the only thing that matters to you
health drain pve dw fury is gonna be O P
>>583338369DPS in group content is the most boring role imo, I hate having to do the same rotation over and over while looking at the boss's ass.
>>583338398>>583338438what are you gonna pay me for wf?
There should be 2 PvE mono-faction realms. Since you can't interact with the other faction in any way, why even have them?Should probably get rid of all the opposite factions settlements and npcs as well.PvE players just can't argue with these changes.
>>583338438warrior is a jokethey get raped by everyone unless they got a babysitter
>>583338420"blizzo pls buff shamans/hunters/paladin/warlock/rogue/priest/druid had tens of thousands of threads and millions of replies on the forums.worldofwarcraft.com site circa 2004-2006
even if I get a beta key I don't even want to play anymore
>>583338143Yea, if you use the auction house or go out of your way for gear upgrades the leveling content is going to be very boring. So they can either make MORE world PvP somehow, like by turning on an outlaw mode where you can PvP your own faction. Or, they nerf DPS by a lot. Or, they buff xp rates from bgs. Or, they script hard as fuck zones with intelligent mobs that actually hunt you down and cut your dick off they’re completely bloodthirsty in this game mode. Otherwise, the games going to be a shit xiv clone. And I’ll just be boosting on era until the next fresh or private server release. Unless PvP at 60 is like really good, it could be. It just sucks to waste the 1-60 thing like that’s deserving of its own game it’s a very unique experience and XP as a reward system can’t be replicated, gear upgrades just aren’t the same thing because of how often it happens.
Smiths should be able to recycle smithed items
>>583338369By who?
>temporary pilots license>goblin/gnomish plane, acts as flying mount>1000g for 7 days (counts down while offline)
>>583338496my boyfriend is my pocket shaman so i don't need you. i'll give you 10g to be my pocket feral leader of the pack buff though
>>583338520Easier to just get rid of you, nerd
class and race for unironic cuckold? my gf has a date later today with a guy we met at a climbing gym
>>583338314Were at a catch 22. If the content is so hard that you need a guild, you’re basically just boosting other boosters. If it’s so easy that you don’t, you’re just boosting other boosters. Life just be that way. So what does a guild even bring really, nothing much. Not unless they’re kicking people who have shit parses right so that’s why we can still call it boosting, they’re just kicking the ppl who aren’t bidding high enough. Raids are a fun concept but you just can’t have friends in this world not when there’s epic loot on the line.
>>583338740human paladinhuman warrior
>>583338740obviously thats human paladin
>>583338740balding male human paladin, holy
>>583338740Im sorry for your loss, best dump her ASAP to minimize the pain.
Just farmed some frilled lichen to make gearHoly shit herbalism is such fucking cancer, i hope there's a bazillion bots farming the crap out of this and driving the value of everything to the floor.
>>583338369>solo
>>583338910you’re mad over picking flowers
I'm already looking for a new mmo/game to play. I'll probably go back to tryharding in dota 2, at least that game doesn't disappoint me because icefrog always knows what he's doing. Or better yet I'll go back to the gym and get my life in order, I can't take the gaming enshitification anymroe.
>>583338910in that case why even have materials in the game.
>>583339001Fuck yes i am, i'm not paying a monthly fee to do this shit.
>>583338419I dont care about them>>583338740you mean your ex, right
Does summit never not look miserable?
>>583338910>>583339038behold the player in all his terrible implications
Damn I look fucking GOOD
>>583339014I'll stick with materials you get for actually playing the game.
>>583337113finished it in like 5 minutes.seems like a skill issue.
>>583339118he's just really high and his body is decaying from age and extreme marijuana abuse. he's a very happy person.
>>583338626If they absolutely positively have to add flying, it should be a far shorter duration for a much higher gold-to-mileage conversion. 5g for a buff that gives you 30 minutes of mounted flying, interrupting it by dismounting cancels the buff.
>>583339136>actually playing the game.what does that even mean, if you think that doing profession shit doesnt count
>>583338438>undead>warrior>this spec>2x ancient hakkari manslayer>zhc because the weapons scale with sp>lifesteal on both axesGonna go to drain town.
Remove skyborne from WoW Forever
>>583339290forever?
>>583339132quacked
>>583339290everyone wants thisthey just need to admit their mistake and move on from it like they're doing with other retail assets
>>583339280You're retarded but I know what the fury spec with the 3 self healing talents is.You'll be healing so little, it'll be barely noticeable even without a wound debuff, yet your damage will be abysmal.Cool for the rp though
>>583338657Explain why would you ever want to see anyone from the other faction, PvE-let.
>>583339237I'm going to assume this world isn't the cata one but the vanilla one, which wasn't built with flying in mind and has a bunch of unfinished terrain and shit everywhere that doesn't matter because you are bound to the groundI doubt they're gonna fix all that for a janky temporary flying buff
>>583339495they would have to refund everyonenever going to happen
>>583339513Forever uses these empty patches of nothingness and actually adds content (as opposed to Cata that either turned it into craters or random ponds at best) but it's still retarded, there should be no flying whatsoever.
>>583339508Because they're part of the game, asswipe. I dont play PvE realms, but I prefer they exist so they collect all the boomers and disableds and americans.
>>583339498It's the fantasy that counts. You can't believe how many times I've tried to make things like that work. Skullflame shield stuff was probably the only functional one.
i cant find a cute boy to play with me...
>>583339663become the cute boy
>>583339576they can remove the skyborne and instead of refunding just give everyone retail allied races customization options (with standard def models as well)
>>583339280Yes brother thats the plan>>583339498>You'll be healing so little,You don't know do you
>>583339513Temporary flight would work as a way to deflate the economy. Personally I think they should just double the price of flight paths.
>>583339663are you cute...
>you get a long cloak at level 12ah yes... the spirit of classic
>2.5 more weeks of beta>no urge to level another character to 30 because its so slow
>>583339782average medieval peasant had like 50 different long capes for different occasions
>>583339663hey cutie
any good horde hyperspawn copper nodes?
Vanilla changed into what Retail is today because the players asked for the changes along the way. Why won't the same thing just happen again in Forever?
Why not make Olympus the official thread guild? After the announcement that they will monopolize all the rare crafting spawns there is no choice other than joining anyways.
>>583339847larper!! cute boys use this one!!!
Why the FUCK can orcs be mages???!Who asked for this shit?We get this clownshit and yet no dwarf warlock? I fucking hate this green cock gobbling lover Metzen.
>>583339814>it's now even more wasteful and not worth to buy beta >fomo has never been strongerit feels like i'm carrying the weight of the whole universe not playing this game..
>>583339882Retail changed too fast
>>583339882People know what not to ask for now.
>>583339814>its so slowgood
should i play druid or warrior first
>>583339901Because it's a reddit guild and not a /wowfg/ guild, silly goose.
>>583339909posting boys feels too gay
>>583340032warra
>>583339882casuals are absolutely gonne bitch and moan and wnat retail changes as forever moves on. the question is whether blizzard is gonna be able to tell them no.
>>583339980"retail" is 20 years of this game's life. I can take a single look at sod and see what the future of forever is.
>>583340080there are certain retail qol changes that should be implemented
>>583339992They're already asking for retail features thoeveralbeit.
>>583340057thats what i was thinking. warrior then druid then maybe a mage or something just for farming
>>583340139welcome
>>583340080they launched the beta with another retail elf recolor, they've been catering to retail from the start
>another 4h long esfand rant about seal twisting
maybe I will play an orc mage after all
>>583340161>WAH WAH WAHNobody cares.
are the BM hawks any cool?
>>583339495>everyone wants thisthe paypiggies dont
>>583340171>knowing anything about streamersKill yourself. I hate that I even know who that shitskin is because of fags like you
>>583340171Seal twisting is a blight and was introduced back in the day because of netcode issuesWe dont have that anymore, at least for twistingAbolish it>>583340248Get a bird of prey i.e. owl or carrion bird
>>583339960I am thinking about it all the time but I know it's stupid to play the beta. I'll likely quit after a few months anyway because I have a life but fuck me I want to play now
>>583340248nah bird cocks are pretty meh, my nelfie hunter wants bigger cocks
>>583340243when a retoilet is faced with reality look how it kvetches
>>583331293>So, Sky Elves are in because they couldn't finish Blood Elves in time?Nah they were made solely to charge good little cattle for a "new" race.People would've pushed back on Blood Elves for $30 but how can you complain about $30 for a "new" race?
>>583340358should've been pandas tbqh
>>583340304I would have believed this two weeks ago, but from what we've seen sinceI don't believe you're telling the truthMy interest in playing has dropped like a rock
>>583340291>>583340171>talented 30% seal cost reduction>talented 60% mana cost returned every time you judgeso i have some other paladin judge crusader while i judge wisdom then i just spam command and righteousness and never go oom?just remove the mana cost from seals
>>583340291nah seal twisting is cool, fuck off. god forbid a paladin has to press more than one button.
my question is what are they gonna do about content at 60. if the game isnt just gonna be about raidlogging the newest raid tier because of "horizontal progression" then what are people supposed to log in and do on a daily/weekly basis?
>>583340452>seal twisting is coolOk play era this is forever and we dont want that here>>583340449Or at th very least make seals last 10-30 minutes
>>583339290unironically i think they are my biggest complaint and I even did the starter zone to give them a fair chance. The entire time i was there i was thinking, why the fuck am i not a high elf priest on alliance. I feel like skyborn will completely feel even more odd once they finally add some other form of elf
>>583340480>weit's just you actually. and you are a bitch.
>>583340417They're also appealing to chinks who are based and just don't play Horde due to being ugly.
>>583340417retoilets should stay in their /wowg/ litter box
>>583340171its already easy twisting i dont understand why dont just make it so you can have 2 seals active
>>583340556keeping with the spirit of vanilla, alright
>>583340449>just remove the mana cost from sealsI can see aggrend doing this while doing the opposite to other classes because reasons.
>30 days til launch >13 days of every streamer doing drying paint minmax content for tips big gay pvp tournament i want to die i want to die i want to die
I am SO bored and disappointed with all the forever thing. I wish I was a dumb retard that enjoys playing call of duty or ball games, life would be so much easier.
>>583340556>this orc nigga reads books and wears pink dresses, probably tiny dick toolmao gayest Orc in Azeroth, this faggot gets ZERO nelf/human pussy
>>583340454fishing pet battle minigames mounts mogs chievos
>>583334985>>583336895Is it not a big deal that he has red chestpiece too? It's like having nothing on?
What ruleset do I need to play to avoid Asmontards?
>>583340653Kek we already got one Come release a lot more are gonna post how bored they are because they rushed the game LMAO
>>583340736rp
>>583340556Looks like shit. Warlocks look much better
they should let you play troll druid. i like the troll cat formFACT
>>583338910Here's why the drop rate on those things is so stupidly low
i cant watch asmon anymore ladsthe constant political subversion contet is so tiring...
>>583340816I hope the add Human druids first and their catform is a worgen just to fuck with twice the amount of people.
>>583340741rushing doesnt change anything you know
>>583340923Rushing changes and ruins your wow forever experience massively
>>583340556looking real smart, real book learned
>>583340893I don't watch vtumors, anyone who crossdresses, or anyone who uses/asks pronouns, and I'm adding most people who use the term "partner" to that list.
>>583340893watch our queen Sunglitters
>>583340983fair>>583341001biofem or trnas
in a perfect world ashes of creation would have secured the funding to finish the game and we would be playing it instead of watching blizzard shit on a plate and call it a mmo
I will play an orc mage on the RP server and tell other mages how my people were magically gifted all along and how the humans and elves were keeping it from us
>>583340919that would be cool tho. they just need to add that before i make my character bcuz buying a race swap would be uncool
>>583337113Just don't do that quest, it's gay. Skip troll village altogether, that shit is for retards. Unless your trainer is there.
>>583340117Most of those features were in MMOs before Retail added them.
>>583340554“Retoilets” as you so rudely call us made it possible for this to even happen! Have you thanked a retoilet today?!
>>583341042way to go Angela Davis
whats the BEST and FASTEST 1-15 zone
>>583341094It's so immersive when dry open lands are foggy... oh wait.
>>583341030No amount of money would have fixed the Steven problem.
>>583341156skyborne
>>583340291>owlHes talking about the ability, not pets
>>583338291Night elf is pretty good
>>583340941theres no such thing as rushing, its experience vs no experience
The fact blizzard has completely given up on maintaining any consistency with their lore and the classes you can play should be a massive red flag and setting off alarm bells, but since everyone is fucking mad retarded and trannified it's not even a blip on the radarThey could have added so many new classes to the game just by taking the heroes from warcraft 3 and transplanting them into the game making them playable classesThis is them throwing in the kitchen sink for a cash grab, meaning their financially strapped for cashThis game should have all the heroes from WarCraft 3 as playable classes, it should have meaningful races, it should have sub classes/races off of the existing classes like shadow hunter/bersekrer/headhunter for troll huntersThis company is the definition of creatively bankrupt laziness, even when they have a literal blueprint to pull from
>>583341182mon?
>>583340983why do you hate cowboys
>>583341239Going to ask chatGBT why gnome priests aren't lore friendly again?
>>583338027I just read that guide. It's good, at least up til lvl 30 I didn't really think about past that.
>>583341182https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_desert
>>583341239
Blizzards going full retard. Game is going to be riddled with problems day 1 and won’t be ready to ship for a clean release. Hardcore players were looking for a rekindle of passion but were massively let down. Games a complete fail and will barely sell any copies because word of mouth travels too fast. When 90% of your playerbase is telling you the game is filled with problems, it’s time to listen. Wow forever needs to be deleted, the entire project. It’s trash. And, they need to learn from their mistakes and hopefully develop a worthy successor to the greatest game of all time. Because as it stands, this game is completely unremarkable and is just another shitty expansion pack and a I’ll probably have worse sales than bfa. I actually played bfa and liked it, and even im hating what forever is shaping up to be. It’s a complete abortion of a game and should be deleted.
Cancel Forever. Launch a new fresh vnd fashy #nochanges fashnilla. Save the white volk
>>583341149Angrelor Daviskull for RP server
>>583340454The borrowed power era from legion to shadowlands was blizzard trying to give players "something to do" outside of raidlogging and people hated it. A lot of people are into Classic because it's simple, easy and raidloggable. Forever is gonna need some kind of M+ like system tho.
Pservertroon forgot to dilate again.
>>583341382
>>583341428pretty gay to keep track of that honestly
>>583341239>This game should have all the heroes from WarCraft 3 as playable classesDude no. Most of those hero classes are already covered by the existing classes.Orc heroes are literally shaman shaman warrior/shaman warrior/rogueEven the more specific ones like dreadlord are covered by warlock.
Real fashnilla has never been tried
I can't believe they are changing the game so significantly 30 days before they are supposed to be going live, things are way worse than we know about
any MAXXERS in chat?
>>583341484we need a cryptlord class
>>583341551they need to change it more
how long until that gross tranny Barney hangs himself?
>>583341338>libtard always has to come up with some rare sub 1% corner case
>>583341582they need to change the name to something else because this isn't world of warcraft anymoreit's axewowund
>>583341585is he 30 yet? they usually rope by then
>quests broken>pets broken>items nerfed>exp nerfed>dungeons broke (gnomer)>talents removed or changed>game launches in 30 days>30-60 untestedi think we know the real reason they're waiting a month to release raids
>>583341647you can google fog + desert name and get foggy deserts
He's the god of WoWF
>>583341647Post the "they are all mostly red" image.
asked chatgpt what are the best mmos currently and he put ffxiv above wow, how do we respond without sounding mad?
>>583341484Bro, your Goblin Alchemist class?
warrior brosdo you get more rage with 2h or with dw
>>583341665this will continue after launchforevernew shit every weekforever
>>5833417841h+shield
>>583341654you would have to be extremely autistic to actually think that
>>583341665Play retail or era then
>>583341727forgot pic
>>583341747Yeah lets cheapen the alchemy profession by adding a class built around alchemy.Same thing for tinkerer and engineering.Next you guys will be asking for brewmaster so we get burdened with fucking pandas again
>>583341647you niggers will complain about anything
>>583341845dfwm
>>583341892Is it even differentiating between retail and classic though?
>>583340117>thoeveralbeit
>>583341685????
Whats a high apm fun class
>>583341717Yikes, brutal eye area. Legit looks like a bug.
>>583341892>best overall experienceThe fuck is that even supposed to mean?
>>583342024rogue, you get to spam your 1 button while spamming a and d
>>583341974just like everyone else, chatgpt ignores classic completely
>old Blizzard known for "getting inspiration" from other games and releasing a well polished, high quality product>wowfo: class design not locked in, new bugs every patch, server infrastructure undercooked, no customer support, trannie-friendly, oozing disdain to the old devs from current talentless hacks
>>583341851WoW Forever is not cool, it's not interestingIt's a girl playing with her brother's action figures and making them into faggot homosexuals and trannies
>>583342067Gameplay + erp potential
>>583342076Hows 1-10?
>>583342024Rogue, druid, warlockDepends if pvp or pve though
>>583342134PvE
>>583341892>elder scrolls online best solo mmohow so
>>583342118you learn swords immediately and a green weapon and 2 shot mobs
>>583342067I only posted the tier list, it wrote a bunch more shit
>>583342067It means there's a lot of datapoints where people claim it's the best but there aren't many that actually explain whats good about it.
>>583342204So combat rogue
>>583341892>Lord of the rings online>best LOTRI can't believe it gives better LOTR experience than wow...
>>583342191It just feels like playing a slightly chopped Skyrim
>>583342248you cant backstab a mob thats facing you now can you
>>583342169I'd go warlock. As long as you can handle walking slow till lvl 40.Druid and rogue are more fun in pvp than pve. Having stealth even in pve is very fun though
As a tank how can I learn to remember dungeons? I've done every dungeon many, many times, and I've watched people do every dungeon many, many times. For decades. But once I'm in a dungeon, I can't remember any of it. OK, left out of the tunnel in wailing caverns.. then along the ramp to the first boss.. and then.. no idea. I've got dungeon blindness. I just immediately forget everything the second it's over. What's going on?
>>583342205Only 2 of those points are correct thoughtbeit and with DT one could argue only 1.
>>583342348Just have a dungeon map on your second monitor
>>583342348Sounds like a medical issue. Enjoy your memories while they last, anon.
>>583342396and literally all the points for wow are wrong, so
If Olympus monopolizes everything that could force the devs to make you able to swap to a custom layer where you are not bothered by other players.Go Olympusbros, annoy everyone so I can have my comfy singleplayer experience!
>>583342297?>>583342307hmmm
dungeons should have anti-skip mechanicskilling a boss in the wrong order should pull the rest of dungeon
the method for wetlands dungeon is to hug the right wall, once you reach the raptor area you can climb the cliff and avoid 90% of the mobs including the boss if you are inclined, avoid the orcs and walk straight to final boss after 2 spider pullssub 10 minute clear
why is there so much schizoposting about this game
>wowfg>look inside>streamers, AI, gooners, furriesN-nice general, guys...
>>583342297>you cant backstab a mob thats facing you now can youwrong you still cant
I just imagined Tall Red Haired Woman with Pale Skin, Fweckles, Prominent Front teeth , and prominent clavicle lurking this thread while sipping seltzer water and leveling her Elf character.
why the fuck are retards undercutting on the AHdo they not know how it works?
>>583342470I can't wait until I forget every mistake I've ever made.. memory is a curse
>>583342673god that needs to get patched. players need to be protected from their own degeneracy
>>583338120yea you're right intensity is essentialmaybe it's better to lean into destro instead of demo then
>>583342748>do they not know how it works?do you?i want my item sold fast so i will undercut you
>>583340651>I NEED to watch streamersget help
The whiniest and most washed up streamer
>>583342874What do you watch when you play the game or can't play the game
>>583340039reddit hates asmon though
>>583342931but thats not asmon
>>583342931This is what having a vtuber gf who doesn't cook does to a man.
>>583342950NTA. I don’t watch anything while I play the game . I just have this thread open on my second monitor.
Reminder, go Assassin if you level RogueBetter combo point regenCombat is just ass and youre gonna be energy starved constantly
>>583342748I had items come back from the AH because they weren't sold in 24 hours. So yes undercutting is in fact necessary somethimes.
>>583342951it's not my problem if you don't know what reddit means
>>583342950Nta, youtube, audiobooks while doing other shit, other games. SURELY wow isn't the only thing you got going in your life?
the chatgpt list reminded me I didn't give gw2 and albion online a fair try, they seem to be good games
>>583338236>>583338331Turtle was balanced and that was a good thing.
>>583343032But what if someone is RPing as a Swashbuckler?
>>583343157Ehhh
i'm glad this shitstorm is happening and we all get to see how truly incompetent aggrend and co. arebest thing to come out of this will be fresh classic era since they're only capable of re-releasing a game made by better men
dadgamers are gonna poison this game for sure
>>583343016>>583343126Are you both playing the beta? Paypig scum? What would you watch if you had this thread open and no beta? Would you watch streamers play the beta? Would you? WOULD YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKE
>decide to run a dungeon>make a group in the party finder>instantly get bombarded by simps>"50s upfront pay, all greens are reserved">only invite the highest level players that aren't my armor class>get a free carryHealerCHADs won't stop winning.
How do I pick a class? They all feel kind of shit tbqh
>>583343183reddit thread?
Is this what actually happened to his mom?
>>583343247yes that actually happened unironically
>>583343032can you use mutilate with any weapons now or still only daggers?
>>583343183>this shitstormCare to share with the class?
>>583343247retard
>>583343183"a better man"half of the creative ideas are from metzen lmao. unless you mean grummz? in which case.... lmao.
>>583343247Yes, reddit is on damage control denying it
>>583343206I'm sorry that everyone isn't as zoomerbrained as you and can make do without validation from their streamerdaddy 24/7.
>female undead warrior Asmom Gold dead in front of org AHbros...
>>583343282any, you can even use axes
been doing some soul searching and I think I know why I can't enjoy forever or any other new game, I just can't make friends anymore, I'm too jaded, I think the most fun thing to do in these games is to group up and grind together, join a guild, I just can't do it anymore because I know too much about people, they will disappoint or annoy me and it's best to avoid that before it happens, but then I have no fun at all
>>583343351ref
>>583343213I could never do this
>>583331729hey btw all the progress you make after is also worthless
>>583343183This is going to be the biggest WoW launch, fatgrend and trannie-co are going to get fat bonuses, will get even more full of themselves and smear more shit over vanilla carcass.And you'll be paying for all of this.
>Kungen says Human and Orc are best races for prot war>Kungen says Tauren is best race for prot war>Kungen says Undead is best race for prot war>Kunge says Night Elf is best race for prot warwhat the FUCK is this guy's problem
>>583343430literal who?
>>583343247Yes. It's not like the people who repeat this over and over are disingenuous and lie constantly or anything. They are the better xhem they must be right.
>>583343206I swiped the $60 Skyborne Epic Pack.I think I’d watch some YouTube videos. I don’t tend to watch streamers. Maybe I’d watch some AsmonGold and Xaryu clips.
>I'm going to play WoW Forever>See a gameplay video>I'm not going to play WoW ForeverHow the hell did you get duped into replaying a 20 year old game with nothing relevant changedYou're basically gdq trannies.>But my balance updates and the big numbers on my equipmentIs that how easily you are fooled?
>>583343613xaryu literally disgusts me, the biggest shill, fake person, you'll ever see
>/wowstreamersgeneral/
>>583343669I thought they changed it too much and it wasn't even wow anymore?
cunnymane next OP please
>>583343669people will play forever because there's nothing else to play and because of nostalgia, but they will only play for 1 month and quit
>>583343701upvoted
>>58334295070% of the time i just listen to the game desu. if im not playing any game it depends there is a lot
Why do trannies hate Asmongold so much? He's not even anti-trans he just says to leave the kids out of it
>>583343217Pick by what sounds cool.
>>583342748How it really works is I come along and buy out every item and reset the price into something which earns me enough money to justify doing it, which is usually like 800% more than whatever you’ve been selling it for. I make more than nax boosters. I dunno I can get like $40 an hour from this game easily. Probably more if I really took it seriously like as a full time job. Altho that’s kinda shit tier payment these days, you’ll never get anywhere doing that type of work. My grandmother makes more than that for owning her house. You need side huddles too you need to subscribe to my twitch channel, I stream for a couple hours every weekend. I farm gold or do dungeons subscribe now.
>>583343781hes a grifter
>>583343781because all trannies are pedos groomed by pedos, who in turn wants to groom more kids
>>583343786Shaman sounds cool but isn't really any fun to play and I don't want to be a healer
>>583343430it is human, despite what the text says on the character screen its a flat 2% crit, spells and melee
>>583343217you start by determining whether you're a top, bottom, or switch, which determines the role you're going to play, and then you pick a class that can do that role.
guys what are we going to do for the 2 weeks between beta and launch?
>>583343781>he just says to leave the kids out of itThis is literally a trans genocide
got hit hard with the realization that I actually don't want to play world of warcraft, I just want to have friends again.
>>583342656crazy new idea
>>583343669Some people actually enjoy the game.
>>583343217you first decide which race makes you hardest, to narrow down which classes you can play
>>583343669thats why its good #nochanges
Im going arms for leveling
>>583344035sick build bro, im stealing that
I could swear this used to be like 20% with talent increasing it to... 30%?
>>583343781trannies need kids to be a part of it because only kids can radically interrupt puberty and shape themselves into a passing transexual. while they are ultimately jealous of these children and would kill them or steal their bodies if they could, they also need these children to exist in order to validate their worldview. it's very simple, but yes, asmon is ultimately pro gay and pro trans.
>>583344085Reeee
>>583343971to have friends you either have to:pay themsuck their dickorplay wow forever
>>583343217priest makes you go through basic training (wanding) till you become gods incarnation(bgs/raids)
>>583343781>he just says to leave the kids out of itThat's why, this is like death sentence to twitter groomers.
>>583343865He doesn't even take money for ads or from his audience
>>583329263fucked based i may have reported that faggot every time he posted
>>583344187heb reeds right wing grifters he's a fraud
>>583344035You went the wrong build already. This is the average retard my class attracts.
>>583344254Im not gonna tank and furys first few points are kinda bad
>>583344227Just 10 more buzzwords and maybe one of them will actually mean something.
>>583343781He's a streamer nigger which is the most valid reason to hate him and his subhuman jeetoid and 13 year old fanbase.
post em
>>583344187his entire life purpose is create engagement bait, that's what being a grifter is, and everyone, even normies, hate that
>>583344296its not a buzzword it's reality watch his streams it's all politics now even his vidya related stuff, his community hails him as the new christ it's insane to think he's "a good guy"t. asmon viewer pre 2019
>>583338006>they've shown great aversion to giving their player-base what they actually wantand that player-base has shown zero aversion to being farmed like shiteating subhumans
>>583344035Bro you'll regret this.... 1-12 you are having a BLAST while 2 hitting mobs, but after that reality strikes...It happened to me and it will happen to many others.
>>583342656Skip meta has genuinely killed the majority of my hype for forever, did an alliance character first week of beta and had fun, came back and leveled a horde character for the level cap raise and got in to RoL and 2 of the dps started having a meltdown at the tank for pulling extra mobs and demanding that they show him the correct route to run it, this is for a brand new dungeon in a beta, the game isn't even out yet and these people are already crying about wasting time in dungeons, can't imagine how cancerous or dead this will be a few months in
>>583344286>Im not gonna tankthat's what I like to hear.
>>583344410Enlighten me as of now i can respecc for 1s
>>583338248>sell a new class>give it slightly more powercreep than the other ones>sell like hotcakesits like league of legends
>>583344331That's not even close to what a grifter is. Maybe a valid criticism but you should find a more accurate term to call him.
>>583342931I like his hair tho
>>583338248>>583344479is everyone forgetting that they sold expansions with new races and new classes? are you guys so jaded that you forgot BC with blood elves being paladins
>>583344373It's buzzword because you and the other twitter lunatics don't know what the words you keep spewing even mean.
>>583344423>having a meltdown at the tank for pulling extra mobs and demanding that they show him the correct routethats when you tell them to shut the fuck up or leave, be a tankchad and pull what you want
>>583344541>it's a word i don't like because twitterlol please go outside touch grass yada yada that's not a healthy state of mind you're in
>>583344486social media influencers are all grifters, and they make society a worse place
its always funny when people get mad you skipped the line to grab a quest item, its like bro i didnt even see the line i follow the restedxp arrow and just click the thing and move on, you dont even register as a person
>>583344552I was healing the tank apologized to them because he didn't know and let the fags dictate the run, I'd imagine if you are a tank 6+ months post launch though and you start pulling every pack moist dps are just going to leave and decide it's not worth their time, the community blizzard has grown is just cancerous
>>583344658you need to go back to retail
>>583344423>e-excuse me sir, there's a good skip here.. kicked and replaced.
>>583344580Struck a nerve I see.
>>583344423I’m not doing the skip routes. I want to experience the fungeon.
>>583344668>the community blizzard has grown is just cancerous>>583344552useplaystyles>>583344708there's no point talking with you anon you have the brain of a lizardwatch your grifter laugh when he does a "racist but not racist because it's ingame haha" joke
>>583344682ive never played retail since quitting in original cata, its also not my fault blizz added a button that guarantees you get the quest item
>>583344749No one will use those correctly they're already in retail, and when they're used incorrectly blizzard doesn't do anything about it, anything that relies on the community self policing is literally dead on arrival
>>583344836be the change you want to have
>>5833442865% crit is way better it’s literally twice as good as 5% parry. And rend is literally worse than parry. Basically you just suck at thinking tier content, highly suggest going mining/herbalism.
>>583344658>you dont even register as a persona very amusing thing to say when you yourself admit to blindly following the cuck arrow
>>583344874No need to be an asshole
>>583343247Baron Geddon got her
I actually didn’t realize Blizz just isn’t banning bots lol. But somehow the value of gold is still being maintained slightly. I guess the people who buy the gold from the bots just trade it away and prices get affected by inflation. And you can actually capitalize on inflation if you’re Jewish. Only the worker gets paid less, people farming copper ore can’t afford to pay their dentist.
>>583343389incel post
>>583344972i can't wait to have 10 times as many random minmax items shitting up my bags in addition to alternative spec gearsets. we going full horizontal boys
>>583343247>consistently goes out of his way to buy his mother who can't get out of the house herself smokes>blows herself up>yeah nothing that could be done unpreventable accident really I'm not saying he killed her but he easily could have prevented this by just saying no, whenever your parents are old enough that you're in a caretaker role you sometimes have to put your foot down (like his parents should have done with him but never did)
>>583345032They're just farming data on bots to hone their bot deleter that they'll deploy when the game is out for real. They have to keep their powder dry until release so they don't give the botters a chance to adapt. Trust the plan.
>>583345146he killed his dad tooforced him to get the vax when he didnt want to and then he got a surprise cancer out of it and died
>>583345146if i was his mother and he refused to buy me smokes i'd blow myself up anyway. can you imagine wasting away with all your best years behind you and all money problems solved the second you can no longer enjoy life and your shithead son who lives on candy and mountain dew won't buy you smokes
>>583345229>>583345223>>583345146this is just too fucking insane to actually think it's real jfc
do rogue combo points still disappear if you swap target bullshit?
>>583345032How do I capitalize on inflation i want to be on the winning team (the jews)
>>583340447why? I'm still the same hype
>>583345271no
>>583344972They'll never publish the data but I really wish at some point before the game is a full year in they would say how many players actually complete one of these mini sets, I'm willing to bet it's less than .001% of players have a full set, they're neat and all but they're contained to such hyper specific mobs and areas that I don't think anyone will ever bother to actually go out of their way to farm them
>>583342950>not immersing in the gameback to retail
>>583344658based
>>583345287if this question were answerable all goyim would do it
>>583345271you have to generate new combo points on a different target to lose them
>>583343247asmonturds are fighting reality once again but this is the undeniable reality, asmongold gave his mom the tools for her to go full Aaron Bushnell mode, he is guilty
>>583345146as funny as it is, the oxygen tank isnt even what killed her
>>583344972>5%Fucking why? I will never understand these retarded inconsequential conditional effects in rpgs.
>>583345146>you know that you shouldn't smoke anymore right? that will kill you>don't care son I still wanna>alright it's your lifeIt's just a matter of perspective whether that's a good or bad idea. She was an adult and made her own choices.
get rid of these offtopic posts jfc
>>583344749Not sure I'll ever choose anything other than Relaxed.>LearningI'm always learning and I imagine as a DPS I won't get invited if I pick this.>CompetitiveThis sounds like a retail thing and if there's actually people doing classic dungeons competitively it's probably in premade groups.>Carry OfferedObviously not a real option
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>>583345371>>don't care son I still wanna>okay well you'll have to find a way to get your disabled ass out of the house to get them yourself because I'm not buying you anymoreproblem solved, aside from blowing herself up she could also burn your house down with that shit
>>583345323but i am immersing in the game which i have no beta access to by watching people play it, silly goose.
>>583345365That line is just flavour text. The three piece is the real affix.
>>583345482i hope you live long enough for your parents to ask you to buy them smokes and i hope they stab you in the fucking neck when you won't make their lives a little better for a few minutes.
>>583345365its just nice
>>583345564>smoking makes lives better
>>583345287Inflation increases the average value of an item by 500%. But, the average value of an item is already 10 times lower than what it’s worth to somebody who really really wants it. So, it’s now a 5000% increase. It actually scales pretty well in your favor too. You end up making way more after inflation.
>>583343936I'm going to be playing dragons dogma 2/cyberpunk/devil survivor overclocked
riverglades is massive, it's like as big as STV
>>583345110>hate something>does it anywaywhy have people like you not killed themselves yet. You are not getting paid to parse in wow but you are paying for it yourself
