Mulgore edition>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>News, dev podcast, dev blogpostshttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>When is it being released?November 4thYou can reserve your first-name + last-name combo starting October 27th.>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Horde (EU on release)<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA on release)<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA on release)oldgnome >>583284285
If I have a meme name or something that isn't lore accurate will people avoid me or do most people not care?
tauren should look like this
First for all troons deserve torture then death
>>583300925pandas are warcraft
Raids should be 40man and it's very telling that they only said they'd be adding 10/20mans
re-rolling.not going to play a loser class like mage anymore.shame, it was my class since launch back in '04.
>>583300947if you are on an RP server you'll get reportedotherwise no one cares
>>583300947Most people won't care
I like making uncs in trade chat mad by asking for features like dungeon finder
How's elemental shaman looking? I kind of lost interest in mage since they're killing downranking and I don't really enjoy ice lance
Rest in peace Nate Higgers.
the broken isles exist during vanilla wowwhich means void elves exist and should be added to Forever
>the wowfg guild is EU on releaseLMAO fucking losers
>>583301105The pain is deep
Add Goblins.
>>583300947I personally judge these people as normie retards but no one else cares
>>583300954they do, though
>>583301170They don't come from the Broken Isles they come from a portal to Telogrus in the Ghostlands that Alleria found
>>583301091Their talent tree needs a cleanup but overall it's looking pretty good.It is still omega dogshit for leveling however.
Can someone post some big titted tauren women please?
>>583301048>>583301054Good to know>>583301295If some people seethe then that's ok, I'll be a better player than them and make them even angrier
>>583300954looks too human, and gay
>>583301365this is a blue board
>>583300954Forgot to add this to my messageIM A HUGE FAGGOT HOMOESEXUAL FROM WOWG COME TO SHIT UP YOUR GENERAL BECAUSE MY PREFERENCES KILLED THE VERSION OF WOW I WAS PLAYING IN, PLEASE GIVE ME ALL THE ATTENTION OR ILL POST REPULSIVE SHIT AS I GET PROGRESSIVELY MORE UPSET FROM NOT RECEIVING SAID ATTENTION BUT NEVER SAYING ANYTHING INTERESTING BECAUSE IM VERY VERY VERY LOW IQ AND OPERATE ON BASE INSTINCTS LIKE MASTURABTING TWENTY TIMES A DAYTOODLES, BUT REALLY IM STILL HERE WATCHING...STALKING, ill never leave, but i;ll always be annoying
>>583301332well arthas attacked silvermoon city which means the ghostlands exist so Void elves = confirmed
"horizontal progression" will just be recolored items for transmog
Tom Ellis fired. Ziqo banned. Troons and gay furries on suicide watch.Chuds win... FOREVER.
Ding 30What a shit experience 20-30 is. I had no fun whatsoever because there was no new content besides a really short and shit dungeon. It was so bad that I was considering going back to retail. Fuck 20 through 30. Holy shit.
>>583301170The Nightborne should definitely exist and make it their primary objective to slink over to Silvermoon and prey on vulnerable, recovering High Elf men.
>>583301514For real what does horizontal progression mean?
>>583301469I don't get the appeal of gnomes they look worse than even gnomes
>>583301562https://youtu.be/JNigfcjcR5c
>>583301562giving alternatives to pick from instead of upgrades
>>583301562think gw2
>>583301562level 60 forever, there will be vertical progression in there but it'll be slow paced vertical progression, big content update will give reasons to make an alt character
>>583301587I don't get the appeal of goblins*
Every time I go to pick up or turn in a quest I get stuck for like 30 seconds before anything happens. Feelsbadman I just wanna quest bros.....
Best race for attracting NE women?
>>583301587>>583301738We're not all gay, though.
>>583301562Vertical Progression: There must always be an end-game, and when you 'defeat' the current end-game, the next content patch raid needs to don the Helm of Loot Determination and become the new end-game, with bigger numbers to prove that it is even more dangerous than the previous end-game.Horizontal Progression: Once you hit 60, you have available an ever-expanding array of raids to choose from, each of which dropping gear that both has bigger numbers than you would get from dungeons and non-raid crafting, and set bonuses / effects that make you even stronger while within each specific raid. When a new player hits 60, they can be brought to any raid content and be the same fresh, entry-level raider, while with each new content patch creating a new raid, established raiders still have their base Stat numbers from their gear, but now have new content and new gear to boost their power while in said new content.
>>583301339interesting, thankshonestly I don't care about its leveling state since I'll generally be with friends, if it's just a real spec now as a caster I'm happy
>>583301534Wdym, it’s fun to run from A to BHAHAHAHAHA WTF I LOVE RUN FROM A TO B I LOVE IT SO MUCH
>see pally casually pull 5 mobs above his level>stupid but I've seen bigger>check his gear>dogshit>check talents>full holycan we stop the paladin experiment nowplease don't let it rock for a year after release
>>583301898Human Warrior
>>583301941I'm talking ingame, if they looked like the art you're posting then I would obviously not be against the green jews
>>583301898zug zug
>>583302072Female Goblins have some nice faces on retail, you faggot.
>>583302072I know what I said.
post you're character
>>583302305Imagine fucking a cute goblin girl in her anus
holy SOVL
>>583302305They really need to release Goblins ASAP
>>583300947Is your name funny? If it's funny I won't report you
It's so funny how much retail trannies are threatened by forever.
>>583301170> Night elves> Blood elves> Sky elves> Void elvesDon't you get tired of fifty shades of elf anon?
>>583302373
>SD models
Lol that darkshire quest was crazy. I had to kill 10 worgen. I accepted the quest. I completed the quest. Then, what I did next will surprise you. I didn’t turn it in. Your minds already reeling in confusion, you must think of me an absolute fool. No, I kept going. I kept going west as I had a quest there to kill 10 ogres. Now, now is when we turn it in. I hearthed to darkshire. But my hearthstone was in wetlands by accident. Let this be a lesson in macro / micro playstyles and the importance of time efficiency.
>>583302640They aren't reportable names though
>see enough people leveling>not insane>enter undercity>constant stream of peopleholy phasing
>>583302053>a yearyou mean forever
>>583302793not as long as they're fuckable
>>583302401>>583302469need to hold a goblin girl in a full nelson and pound her ass NOW
>>583302894I leave my hearthstone in the same spot forever and will take 30 minutes each quest just running around and talking shit in trade chat. Get owned.
>>583301534Please go back to your containment game. I beg you. I will even give you 20 years of gold I have on my main from WoD
fucking hate europeans, bros
mfw they just add every race from retail to Forever specifically just to annoy classic andys
>>583303092
>>583302003>>583301534it's okay if you're not the target audience
>>583302305Still think they looks weird
>>583302931None of them are having fun. Theres just legitimately nothing else to do. If you ask like even one of those people what they think about the game they’ll probably say it’s a shit game and they could design a better game for free if it wouldn’t get raided by blizzards division of armed mercenaries.
>>583302793Every elf race is just another troll off-shoot, in the end. More elf races, and more elf raids! There must always be an elf raid!
>>583301534what if they totally held back on the new content to keep you guessing and there WILL be new quests in 20-30 zones on release?
>>583303136I'm sorry. It's terminal. We've called the Witchdoctor to check you out.
>>583303103>mfw I ask an orc to rape me and I start the greening of the Alliance
INJECT ME THIS DIRECTLY INTO MY VEINS
I wish wowfo was good, I really do. But it's just not... And it'll even be worse at release somehow.
>>583302793You forgot the Nightborne.And also, can't go wrong with Elves.
I wish I could quit you.
>>583303279that art looks 1000 times better than the ingame model, you have goblinfever and can't see things clearly
>>583303103i would be happy playing rogue tho
Try to make your third post not sound so much like it was read from a script
>>583303392I'm having fun :O
>>583303454>you have goblinfeverAnd the only cure is more Goblins.
>>583301967Vertical Progression: You be gluck gluckin.Horizontal Progression: You’re bussy taking the snausage.
>>583303103>>583303461worgen roguetest
resto shaman looks like shit but at least they're the only mana battery support in the game nowguaranteed raid spots
>>583303454There's nothing wrong with having goblin fever
>>583303626Your bussy stores +20% more resources from your raid team while you all are in AQ.
>>583303361It’s not that easy sadly. These skinny bitch 3D models look like retards when they attack a lot of the time. Like some of them look okay, I think the dagger animations for skinny bitch polygon is decent. Also 2H mace can look good. I didn’t like swords they all just look retarded like your character isn’t close enough to the target or something.
>>583301527In awe of the smugness of this hog
When do you guys think they’ll do thr first balance pass? I want my spec doing more damages.
>>583303695riptide is op, water shield is op, chain heal is strong as fuck, all the totems are op, ghost wolf indoors is op, the fuck are you talking about
WoW made me hate other people
he's back
>>583303695Resto looks fun and low cortisol desu
>>583301967>Vertical Progression: There must always be an end-game, and when you 'defeat' the current end-game, the next content patch raid needs to don the Helm of Loot Determination and become the new end-game, with bigger numbers to prove that it is even more dangerous than the previous end-game.i wonder why things evolved in this directionwas it inevitable the moment that TBC raised the level cap?
>>583303763>Your population takes a -20% loss per patch cus that shit sounds gay af, normies are gonna hate it and you know im right.
>>583303695To make this spell good, they have to design the boss to actually leave you without mana. You understand conceptually what’s happening right? Because if they don’t purposely design a way to drain mana, it’s just not gonna be a good totem. And if they do that, it’ll actually just end up being a required spell and if you don’t bring the shaman and let him press the spell you don’t kill the boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJFmTqRJwdsFecalsaars tank shaman is confirmed this is not sod- saars!!
>>583303895outlived reckful
>>583303895hes back but he got old, got a job, got a wife and lost the magic oilhes a completely new man and i shant be watching
>>583304043what does this have to do with india
p***bros we are herehttps://www.twitch.tv/meowchandayohttps://www.twitch.tv/meowchandayohttps://www.twitch.tv/meowchandayo
>>583303954It was inevitable from the moment that blizzard has never done a "lateral progression" game and designed wow from the ground up to be a number-upper type of game instead of a low action hang out game.
>>583303889Lol tranny
>>583304183gross voice
I'm so glad shaman are on alliance so I can have a mana battery
>>583303695No raid boss fight is going to last longer than 2 minutes.
>>583303895who?
>>583304225aren't the raid tiers in vanilla massively overlapping though
>>583303361Thank fuck monster girls aren't tolkienesque. Keep that furry shit elsewhere.
>>583304183"otaku" "kawaii" vtuber with the same childish "totally my real voice, I'm not putting it on for the freaks in the chat, this is how I really talk!!11!!11!" #322332. They really do just print these things out, huh?
>>583304183Wash it down with a Big Mac meal, large fries and a large drink. Missed your beta invite? Don’t worry, you can still eat McDonald’s. Wash it down with a chicken burger too, and get some ice cream. Plz donate to charity too round up your purchase becauz ppl with cancer need your help. But not enough to stop building skyscrapers. It’s a faux pas, we’re in a catch 22 situation. Wash it down with a second Big Mac for half the price.
>>583303361is we gettin' them catbelfs?
>>583303967Well, yes, anon, that's what happens when loads are released in a bussy instead of a pussy. >>583303954I imagine Blizz had a lot of ambitious ideas when vanilla was in development, to the point that they were like "We have so many narrative concepts and characters from before to work with," but with WoW's crazy unexpected success, they were met with a massive population and a drive to exceed, exceed, keep capturing that lightning and making number go up, make green chart go up, we can't stop -moving- or we'll collapse, which turns the dev cycle into a stopgap to hold the player population at bay long enough for them to work on what's been on the backburner.Then before they know it, TBC's out, Black Temple's out, we've got Sunwell but shit we need more time -again-, alright, hit them with the next expansion announcement to give us even MORE time -> repeat.TBC's attunements alone make it exceptionally clear how their vision for the raiding end-game scene was at first, then how it shifted come the time for Sunwell -> Wrath+.
>>583304413No. No they are not.They overlap because of purely accidental things like some 2-3 random items being really, really good out of the devs not really knowing how stat budgeting works but that only happened once the players learned it too.After that the devs did put a concerted effort into making the old tier worse than the new tier.
>>583304423>Keep that furry shit elsewhere.that ship sailed a LOOOOOOOOONG time agoand we might get wolves soon lmao
>>583304359Woundman
>>583304624worgen and goblins in forever would be peak. most retail races are not bad, just the fucking game sucks
>refundedShit is not ready for primetime.>some faggot starts an event from quest giver>go afk>screw over 1000s of peopleFuck this shit, until a lot of these 'cut-scene' quests are instanced I'll go play something else.
why do I keep getting party invites from orcs
What gamer fuel do you prefer for grinding in wow? Personally for me I like Wingstop Cajun wings and fries with Cajun seasoning and some side pacificos.
>>583304593>>583304413Also, the fact you have 40 guys so getting everyone an ashkandi isn't feasible even if you are killing nefarian every week, the drops just don't work out that way.Their design is likely going to be sanctified sets and 2-3 random pieces being incredibly fucking broken forever+1 (like Thunderfury, Idols, etc...) so you'll be "forced" to run 3+ raids per week.
>>583304183
>>583301527>Tom Ellis fired.There's no indication this happened
surely they won't let orc racials go live as is rightsurely they won't let hunter pets have mortal strike and curse of tongues right
>Ive a +20% chance to horizontally progress poopies out of my bussy when wearing 8/8 DirtyButtBoi set in the Sanctum of Shit.
>>583301534>going back to retail.Please do this, immediately.
>>583304134this faggot is already spamming bailey jay in his chatBARF
>>583301562>>583301514>For real what does horizontal progression mean?Transmogs. Titles.
>>583304882worgen and goblin really do fit the game best. way better than draenei and belfthe cata zones are just retarded beyond belief
>>583304576>I imagine Blizz had a lot of ambitious ideas when vanilla was in development, to the point that they were like "We have so many narrative concepts and characters from before to work with," but with WoW's crazy unexpected success, they were met with a massive population and a drive to exceed, exceed, keep capturing that lightning and making number go up, make green chart go up, we can't stop -moving- or we'll collapse, which turns the dev cycle into a stopgap to hold the player population at bay long enough for them to work on what's been on the backburner.this kind of makes sense but i can't help but wonder why they chose to go in the direction of a raised level cap + exponential power growth>>583304965>>583304593is the relevance of certain drops at end game really an accident or is it a deliberate design choice? what is the point of intentionally making old raid tiers COMPLETELY obsolete? other than skinnerbox engagement bait, obviously, which i don't think was a design goal in vanilla
>went from healslut to nightelf female hunterits just too much fun. and double stealth with your cat while raping faggots in stranglethorn sounds like absolute kino
>>583304896They want to see if you'll give them the Shaman Special, the 5th Element, the big bada boom.>>583305000Now you're ready to parse, anon.
>>583304996orc racial is balanced because it can't remove hunter curse of tongues (not a curse)
>can get Mining right of the bat in nelf start area now>BS trainer and the nearest anvil is still in Auberdinethis is tiresome...
NEED. MALFOID.
>>583305146Titles are cool
>>583304985The sign is a subtle joke.
>>583305164in what way do worgen fit better than belves
>>583304882Vulpera and Diapergnomes are the only race that genuinely look like shit
>>583305190The entire point is skinnerbox engagement bait.Do people forget that vanilla wow was designed after everquest?
>>583301527Fact>>583304985Fiction
>>583304996every single day that goes by moves it towards being permanent, when they start ignoring complaints and go completely silent, you'll now it's going livegiving other classes abilities to hunter pets with better version, certainly in the style of vanilla, right
>>583301534kill all normgroids
>>583305190they accidently learned how to make good items after bwl but they deliberately chose to be lazy fucks and leave everything bwl and before unadjusted
>>583305431literally looks like my nelf huntress
>>583304929If your message is about food or animals im going to not be replying, unless it’s on 4chan where I will be calling you a fag to your face like you deserve.
>>583305480based and yejipilled
>>583305391i never played everquesti know it's insanely grindy but is it the kind of grindy where all your grinding becomes irrelevant in 3-6 months like retaili guess i just don't see the appeal of this kind of game design...
>>583305480nelfs arent that ugly even on hd
forever needs vulpera cuties
>>583305431Do you feel like you’re that girl? And like you’re trying to express your emotions through a picture of her? A pro tip is to use your own face picture and to make different expressions to help communicate how you’re feeling. I think it really adds to the content when I can see the posters emotions more cleanly.
They should just bring in most retail features and have us opt-in. Like with SD / HD models.
>>583304929pistachio w/ shell
>>583304929Nutella cookies
>>583305656go back to your dead general
>>583305656not happening. they want at least a few people to play alliance
>>583305656yiff in hell
>>583305586It's among what came first, and thus what a lot of childhoods/early adulthoods grew up with and defined mmorpg gaming as. WoW's devs included, who looked back with nostalgia glasses and vengeance fists about what they idealized and disdained when they went about making WoW.A core issue is that for many, many players and non-playing shit-talkers in these generals, vanilla WoW was that first-time, defining experience, as was Wrath, and Cata, and MoP, and Legion, and BfA, etc. So the playerbase as a whole has their biases and what they remember as "the game when it was good and it made me happy and became a core memory for my enjoyment," which becomes the probably impossible balancing point for Forever's devs, which is why they hopefully have their lines drawn in the sand and stick to one coherent plan, regardless of which parts of the total playerbase complain about them.
>blizzard cooked the hatersyou love to see it
>>583305678No, because if it goes beyond cosmetics, people are just going to pick the most time optimal options. Such as Dungeon Finder.
>>583305678This is their first ever second MMO. Never before has this happened. Literally this is BLIZZARD and they’re MAKING AN ENTIRELY NEW MMO. However, they seem to actually be fucking retarded. It just looks like a shit game dude it’s complete shit and won’t be remembered in the same light as classic. They aren’t doing ANYTHING interesting it’s literally just like mind numbing tier content without any creativity or risk involved. It’s actually gamer slop. Private servers were more interesting.
>>583301562Mounts mogs cheevos!
Horde NA Enhancement Shaman looking for guild on RP or PVP, would like to raid... pls...
>>583306030wow started development the same year that everquest came outbut what i'm asking is if everquest had a true loot treadmill like wow or if it was sandboxyi know the abundance of world bosses meant the top end loot was only available to people who literally pooped in socks
hopefully they remove factions on PvE/RP servers and allow everyone to group up, talk and be in the same guild
>>583306248>Enhancement Good luck with that bud :^)
>>583305532Lol kill yourself faggot no one cares and it's not that big of a deal
remove pvp serversadd warmodegame fixed
>>583306352>>583306531they did this in retail
>>583306587one of the few good things retail did
>dwarf>warrior>furynext question
>>583306468Thats true you’re just back ground noise. Zero content at all to your words. Youre actually trying to use the product as your voice. Animals and food are cool in their own right and don’t need your faggot opinions tacked onto them. And id enjoy them more without you shitting up the space with worthless attention grabbing content in my raids and general chats which are primarily a business transaction.
>Want to play holy pala but it's a dead spec>Want to play priest but really hate the priest community
Anti world pvp faggots are the biggest and softest pussies in the world. They are kids who say they got bullied in school.
>>583306736sounds like you should just stick to your own community, the GAY community
>>583306248why are you asking this in alliance tranny erp general?
>>583306682What color ram
>>583306682can you pls roll Gnome? Warrior is trash without escape artist.
>>583306712Cringe as fuck man you must have no friends at all
>>583306736>Want to play the class but hate the communityI wouldn't let that be the deciding factor, I don't think I've ever really interacted with any "community" of my main classes throughout the years a significant amount
>>583306738>They are kids who say they got bullied in school.By you, presumably. Good job, kiddo. Yeah they should have fought back but you're still a piece of shit.
>>583306829in all likelihood grey>>583306839i'd sooner die
>>583304882If they do add worgen they better not use the shitty Cata animations.
>>583306312>but what i'm asking is if everquest had a true loot treadmill like wow or if it was sandboxyThere were no instances in early EQ so to get gear you had to go find a camp that was available in open world, assemble a group, kill mobs until a named mob spawned and then hope it dropped something useful.By 2004, EQ had become very raid centric to the point that to unlock group zones you often had to do raids. Many of those raids still required open world raid targets. Part of the appeal of WoW for burned-out EQ players was the ability to reliably progress entirely in instanced content.idk if that answers your question
>>583306924because these people sit in the priest discord 24/7 crying about disc priest and the devs actually hear them and end up ruining the spec
>do RFC>get a sweet blue axe>do 30 minutes of questing with it>do ROL>get another sweet blue axe that's a strict upgrade>it has the same iconic model as Ravager>I'm Lvl 16 still in patchwork leatherClassic... just how I remembered it...
>>583306736A bit like me. I like healing but i absolutely detest most of the playerbase here. Because they're the biggest retards imaginable. Just recently had to heal a tank with full strength gear and no stamina. It was an oom shitshow. Now im DPS. Fuck all of them
>>583306312Everquest is a loot threadmill game, like wow. Both have the same gameplay loop of "grind->get power->Grind somewhere harder".Everquest came out in 1999, wow came out in 2004. WoW also employed a large amount of end game EQ players (Tigole Biddies, IYKYK).99% of people actually want Ultima Online, but they aren't ready for that.
Hate vulperas sure but if they were added they'd be more played than gnomes
humans though, do they roll warrior or paladin? a question for the ages
>>583306967t. got bullied
>>583306736Devs already promised that hpala is the best single target healer so it'll get buffed.
>>583306861You have one thing to offer me, let’s be real here. You can join my group and we can kill a boss. Your IQ is far below mine, and you are unlikely to entertain me on an RP server with your writing. You probably aren’t even good enough to join my group actually, I mainly play in top 100 guilds or with other r14s. Everyone in my RP guild graduated from a STEM course.
This is peak. Where are you?
>>583306531what is warmode, technically?Is it anything like the Warhammer PvPzones?
>>583307175Mudhut in durotar
>>583307175screenshot from the other dayi've been playing alliance for the 2nd half of my time playing wow, i think it's time to go back to the horde
>>583302431KVNO
*carries your bg ground*
>>583307194NoIt's basically an ability to swap between pvp and pve server in any major city.
>>583307175Right outside Hall of Thanes trying to get over my social anxiety so i can tank.
>>583307175FVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVAAAAAAAARRRRK
>>583307171You're a lot dumber than you think you are if you assume you can detect someone's IQ off of a post they put no effort into. You have no idea what I am capable of the way I have no idea what you are capable of but the difference between us is that I don't have some small faggot brain that needs to think I'm smarter than you. You're a lot more retarded than you believe faggot.
>>583307070I think I'd be fine with most the retail races if they were grounded in the lore and the world. Like, just add a bunch or quests and npcs like half a year before hand to to get peopel used to them being in the world
>>583306736you're a faggot if you even know anything about a classes "community"
>>583307024>>583307062how irrelevant was last-patch content?last-expansion content?
Why should I play warlock?
>>583307070you're really crusading to make yourself and this version of wow the most unpopular and unplayable as possiblewho needs haters and detractors when the fans still left and the paypigs do the best job at killing the product
why do chuddies play a game thats made by woke commiefornia liberals?
>>583307312>cant experience night time forever because servers are na
I think SOD's 1-25 was better than Forever's 1-30.
>>583307542I look like this
>>583307542>do experience nighttime forever>it's annoying cuz I can never see shit
>>583307538Do you have a single gnome on your account?
>same weak bait every thread
>>583307571SoD felt like a gimmick private server
gnam
>>583307687zamn! gnome baddies look like that?!
>>583307415You can do it, anon. Don't be afraid those "people" are just pixles and most of them never ran this dungeon so it's new for everyone.
>>583307542>work graves >never see the sun even ingame
>>583307653open ur eyes perhaps
>>583307680It did but it also had way more content. Finding and gathering the runes alone was more content than whatever they're currently adding to Forever.
>>583307494>how irrelevant was last-patch content?They didn't do content patches, they did yearly paid expansions and dumped it all at once>last-expansion content?Extremely relevant, raid gear from the previous ~2 expansions was better than group gear from the newest expansion. You also had items with special on-use effects that last potentially forever. Some classes in EQ still use their epic clicks from 2004 to this very day.
>>583307501Alliance? yes please we need youguaranteed raid spot because you save everyone a bunch of time summoning
>>583307070>if you add furbait it will attract furriesthat's the problem, yeah
>>583307664do you have any faith in retail wow continuing to produce contentyes or no
Beast Mastery or Marksmanship? I cant decide...
>>583301587Old post but: gnomes are smaller and kinda loli-looking to the extreme in a very creepy way. Gobbo fems are bigger, like a dwarf and you can use them as onaholes while you gently bite their ears.
Give us Alliance Skelf Shamans now or else
>>583307687Built for big forsaken cock
>>583307412lame
>>583303127>>583303242>>583305041>>5833054311000 new quests my fucking ass.
>>583307175offline, set up my ui two weeks ago and waiting for release
>>583307838BMMake groups with your pet as the tank
>>583307838get mastered by beasts
>>583307795this doesn't sound like it's anywhere close to as vertical as WoW became as early as TBC>You also had items with special on-use effects that last potentially forever. Some classes in EQ still use their epic clicks from 2004 to this very day.especially this, which is something i hope to see in foreverand the current retail model makes content completely and totally irrelevant patch-to-patch, right? so there's only one raid worth doing at any given time?
>>583307480Priests were nearly worshipped in classic because they were the only good healer. It was the undisputed best dungeon healer at all levels. It’s not like a dps role where there’s like all this debate about when you want a rogue compared to a hunter. It was always “yes, a priest healer”. So there’s definitely a priest community who became obnoxious and petty. It’s noticeable like if we seriously collected every message and made a graph of something you’d notice priest was deviating more than most.
>>583307965You convinced me.
>>583308001yeah but now both sides have shaman and bubble sucks ass
>>583307965agp tranny
>>583306248I'm serious btw, I'm just a very lonely person and don't know where to look.
>>583307817Too late for that anon, Blizzard already strongly implied worgen are coming eventually.
>>583308247I'll raid with you on PvP
wow press F to pay respects, is a dead on arrival game, I'm sorry
>>583308327Where and how?
Not many humans will tell you this, but Uther Lightbringer was a dwarf. His real name was Gunter Lightforge.There is no Twisting Nether.
>>583308106I think it was mostly about mana efficiency. Priests didn’t need to drink as often as other healing classes.
>>583307819yeah. Jagex produced RS3 and OSRS side by side for the last 10+ years why would I expect wow to turn out any different
is horde usually populated on rp realms or is it majority alliance players?
>>583307934Can you fuck up pet skills? Those points are finite, right?
>>583308516do you think it will be quality contentyes or no
>>583307819>if they add goblins they'll be more played than gnomesthere does that help your tiny brain figure out what im trying to say?
>>583308627nta but i've heard RS3 has gotten a lot of quality content despite
zigo is still unbanned
>>583308365I'd love that anon, I've been really excited to play since I'm having so much fun on the beta.
wots on yer mind
>>583308523Moonguard Alliance is the biggest RP Hub on Retail.But with this RP Ruleset thing, it could be very different.
>>583307039So delete the axe and equip some white vendor weapon instead?
retoilets start dogpiling the dog dick dildo brigade must be backed upprolapsed anuses are no fun huh
>>583307347thanks mommy
>>583308862You can just toggle the axe.
>>583308523Alliance have always been the majority on RP realms but it has gotten way worse in retail because the horde lore is fucking awful and vulpera let in a bunch of furfags.
>>583307540Awfully quiet
>>583308989we need silvermoon to save horde RP
>>583307540After witnessing the total retardation of those Asmontroons, i started to think that i like the leftoids more
Blizz has better pull something huge out from deep within their ass because this has been bleak. There's a few niceties here and there but it's mostly low-impact, low-hanging fruits. It feels more like a high-effort pserver and less like a multi-million dollar iteration on Classic.
>>583309181
>playing a priest or a healerYeah we get it, you voted for Kamala
>>583309354
>>583308405The first Forever podcast episode when they were asked about why they created Skyborne. Their answer was "We could have added races tied to areas we're going to go to like Gilneas, Uldum or Quel'thalas, but we realized we're going to run out of things like that if we front load too much of it so we wanted to create something brand new first."
>>583300867Levelling question for warriors: When should I be using Heroic Strike, and when I should be using Sunder Armor?
The fact that retoilets are here advocating and spamming the general constantly with their furshit means this shit is dead on arrival even if you can stomach the skyborne subversion, there's an entire population of WarCraft fans that want a franchise free from the influences of retail and blizzard keeps caving to the minority that killed retail off, it's over
>>583308989There is plenty of walk-up RP on wyrmrest accord horde side. Mostly Orc, but Orc is the easiest most natural thing to RP. Just pretend you're posting on 4chan and call everyone else a faggot.If some fairy elf asks for your backstory say you dont know, you were born in Durnhole and Garrosh is the one true warchief.
>>583309354It takes a true retard to be afraid of dying in a videogame
gonna roll a gnome for launch
>>583309604Had something similar happen but without us being in a party while I was ganking them in the wetlands.I'm not a fan of partying for world pvp unless they've done it first. Otherwise it makes me feel low.
>>583309649>Decline
>>583309494I'll play if it's good like the current beta and uninstall if it becomes dogshit like retail. It's not that serious bro
>>583309649>PartnersWork together. Not gay yet
>>583301534>Tell people it's SoD->It is SoD-Just sign the apology letter lil nigger.
How do you tank as a bear in Forever? Just spam swipe if it's a group and Maul if it's single target?
>>583309793never become a soldier.
>>583307061strength increases block value, noob.
>>583309978buff yourself with thorns (unless there's a boomkinGOD in the party)
How's leveling speed in forever compared to classic?
>>583310041Fuck off, im not in the mood.
>>583310137the samelike almost exactly the same
>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence>no dungeon exp>no dungeon mob exp>no new classes>bad balance classes>insane new gear power creep>shitty old gear>all leveling through quests>zero social aspects>unbalanced pvp>rogues top 1 dps because yes>all hybrids suck because hybrids>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted>ugly new elf race>new elf race breaks lore>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper>everyone still needs to be an engineer>endgame is still raidlog>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played>biggest streamer is a nazi>biggest streamer killed his own motheryep, they gave up on wow fogever
>>583310205>biggest streamer killed his own motherNo he didn't what the fuck are you talking about? Stop spreading this shit online. What are you a liberal?
>>583309892They have the same last name
>>583310205Okay cool. Still gonna be the biggest version of wow ever.
Everyone points to games with horizontal progression and ive played fucking none of them so idk what those mean. Why cant people just give itemization examples.. like look at these things from 2 years ago vs today
>>583309181>>583309604>>583309354>>583309439The clitty leakage on display in these posts. It's almost too much. The embarassing excitement as the cage tightens just as the chud player is le pwned is too much
>>583310356FAMILY
>>583310205Say it with me!>I'm a little cuck, and I fell for it! I just have SoD- yet again! Time to install retoilet client!
What are the coolest mountsI'm partial to the skeleton horses, raptors and rams
>>583310205>biggest streamer is a naziDamn bruh you were doing so well until you outed yourself with this complaint.
>wow fogever will be the largest version of wow ever!(This is what sarjeets actually are paid to believe)
>>583306738nice projection. i'm guessing you were bullied and are now pretending to take agency by "bullying" in the world of warcraft.
>huh guess the chuds won, you mad liberals? You guys are gonna have a lot of fun playing with the "chuds" aka dog shit players. Not even a political issue anymore, its the same as people not wanting to play with Ragnaros players.Its even worse now because he's openly stated he's going to try to run a market control on the server for recipes and mats in order to force people to join his guild. Literally what happened to Classic Era realms where guilds would just camp the vendors for recipes. Then when he eventually gets bored or more likely, when he reaches a content brick wall where he can't be carried, he'll quit. Will most likely be the latter because the man couldn't clear original Vanilla raids while playing the most OP class, couldn't clear Sunwell and didn't even play past Naxx 25 because he's a leader larper. A person who wants to be in charge for all the perks of it but doesn't actually have the will to be a leader. Makes the decision to play Horde first much easier
>>583310497Kodo
>>583310371Guild Wars 2 is pure horizontal and its item power literally hasn't changed in 14 years. They added one new tier of gear in late 2012, and never again. Max stats from gear in 2026 are exactly the same as max stats from gear in 2012.
>>583310346Facts don't care about your feelings. He killed his mom. If he can live with it then so can you.
>>583310634it's spelled "kino"
>>583310512He outed himself as having a brain. I swear you niggers would be more respected if you just said how you felt but you rats always have to hide when people uncover it. Just like that Elon nigger and his "roman" salute. Stand on business you coward niggers or stop being faggots.
>>583310634Kodon't
>People who know WoW Fogever is shitFashy vnd Freshy posters>People shilling WoW FogeverE-celeb watchersIndian shillsRetoilet playersPedotranny freaks from wpsg
>>583310371>>583310745Is this lies by omission?There are ways other than more stats to power creep. Procs, effects, affixes, etc.Like at no point did you say people still use 2012 gear, you said "same max stats" as 2012, which is VERY different.I can reference some gachas if you like where the base stats of characters and equipment hasn't changed, by there is still massive power creep and FOMO milking.
>>583310914Except the biggest anti complaint is literally about streamers ie Asmongold chudwhistle. People use Olympus as the number one anti argument.
>>583310914era's right there for you
>>583309181so true open the borders we dont need ceuta anymore
>>583309868cowardly way to mask your true intentions, furrfaggot
>>583310904???Oh I'm not one of those larper faggots who live with the congitive dissonance that factually nothing happened, but then also try to be edgy about ovens. Nothing happened, and all they were trying to do is kick the can down the road too, larpers be damned, they're cowards.
>>583310939Heterosexuals don't play gachas.
>>583310205>be woke retard tranny team>crash the original game with no survivors>take someone elses work from 22 years ago>re-release it, make money>cant help yourself, just like you chopped your cock off you NEED to troon the game out too>DOA
>>583310904Asmon is a retard with shit takes but he isn't a nazi or a fascist or whatever nonsense you've concocted in your head
>>583307851they don't want to tie a crossover class to a paid racebut they should have made night elves into shaman instead of dwarves>nature lovers>top played alliance race>never been done beforethe only reason this was not done is because blizzard is either lazy or is once again engaging in horde bias, the latter being most likely the bigger reason
>>583300947You're KOS for me and should get camped relentlessly.
In 2 years both sides of the culture wars will be swept away from the game along with their freaks, the forsaken will be kicked out of the sewers to someplace else and Lordaeron will be restored like the world that once was.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuD0Ub8VlMY>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXajx7l4VxE&list=RDOXajx7l4VxE
>>583311134Tell it to the money Diablo Immortal made, and despair because it was the most successful thing Blizzard ever did, so all the scummy "oivey it's not really a gacha!" monetization is coming.
>>583310358Per Internet capita?
>>583311092>ceutano one knows or gives a fuck about your country
>try to play or talk about game online>POLITICS >YOU'RE A CHUD>YOU'RE A LEFTIST>DID YOU HEAR WHAT STREAMER DID>STREAMER LAYER
>>583311256>bunch of foreigners kicking the Lordaeronians out of their landFuck off back to stormwind
>>583311278Yes, we already know Blizzard has a very large homo and tranny fanbase.
>>583310914>invents narratives about pedos and troons and jeets 25 year old mmo take your fucking meds culture war brownoid
Lol there’s a constant stream of mage bots on era. They zone out of maura, turn around, then blink into the instance. Every mage bot is doing the exact same thing. It’s just an unending stream of bots. Im actually trying to play the fucking game, I’ve just paid some guy to boost me and it’s unsightly while we’re summoning other buyers these faggot bots keep zoning out, resetting and blinking back in. I just want to fucking boost in peace FFS.
>>583311169Far more concise and entirely accurate.>>583311201He's a typical Fox *ews neocon. Brainless and arguably more of a problem than the idiotic leftists.
>>583311349see thats why you avoid the servers the streamers play on.
>>583311201This is what I'm talking about. You niggers literally share the same ideology as the group but refuse to admit it because you know it makes you look retarded. Stand on business, nigger. Imagine feeling that strongly about these things while being too scared to say you feel that way. Sounds like a bunch of nigger cowards to me.
>>583307039the axe head shape is specific to Lodareon, obviously. probably a famous blacksmith that died during the plague
i mage this game
>>583310205first reply to all of this is the least important to the actual game, never change
>>583311407>>583310904>If I say nigger I'll blend in and nobody will notice I'm a moron
>>583311364Of course, but I think it's funny seeing the westoids who accept Tauren, Pandas, Vulpera seethe that anime enjoyers are somehow gayer or something.
>>583307175That's a valley, stupid
>>583311349>>583311405phew good thing we dont do that on 4channel
>>583310205>>no dungeon exp>>no dungeon mob expNOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T I COMPLETELY IGNORE THE WORLD AND LEVEL SOLELY IN INSTANCES ANYMORE
>>583311512Dont lump tauren in with pandaren or fucking vulpera.
>>583311201True because actual Nazis actually got things done and weren't all talk. Asmon is just an average "right wing" retard that does nothing but yap about social reform or "return to tradition" like most of the internet.Things will never change because actual physical action isn't being taken. People can notice and complain on the internet about corrupt politicians and pdfs but that will do nothing. Him pathetically trying to reinstate some kind of old school gamer ethno state in a new version of an old game he played when he was 14 is the epitome of cope
>>583311624Layers/shards are instances.
>>583311502Still too much of a pussy to say how you really feel and hide behind gay shit. Kill yourself.
>>583311671>actual Nazis actually got things doneBro their biggest claim to fame never even happened.
Why is TB always so packed? Did plainsrunning really save tauren from being a low pick race?
>>583311778huh im pretty sure the complete take over of europe is still onty hitler
>>583310137Faster because of player power. But functionally identical.
>>583311626Pandaren were in WC3You play a series that was too naive to realize it was an open door for furfags.
>>583311737azeroth is a dungeon
>>583311830TB is the best horde capital. if i need to level my skills or go to the AH, i always fly to TB.
Holy shit this MC boost is gonna be paying like 3000g just to clear the raid for some guys thunderfury. Thats enough to buy a naxx boost so you can get your alt enough gear to do a thunderfury boost
>>583311830it's all bots using the cultivation racial, they need to remove that shit and add stun/debuff resistance instead
>>583311830It's because TB is the most aesthetic of the 3 horde cities. Also all the amenities are tightly packed together and organised. Org is a shithole in comparison.
>>583312013They already nerfed cultivation to only give you level appropriate herbs. It's not going to be worth it for a bot to get 1 herb per hour
>>583311349Legitimately, in-game: right-click -> ignore, and keep doing this whenever you see it. Report if you want to, but remember any and everybody sitting in Trade talking about this shit paid *some* amount of money to just sit in trade chat and talk shit, like retards. In-wowfg: 90% of these threads are people not playing the beta, so they've nothing else.
>>583311349As 'nilla oldfag that just wants to play the game seeing this in literally every chat in beta has been crazy.
>>583311919as an easter egg, you disingenuous niggeras a joke for one of the devs, it wasn't in the game in any meaningful wayyou've exploited this fact for your sexual fetish ritual posting and everyone can see now it was a mistake to have even been included, it gave us one of it not the worst expansion in the game's history who's entire setting was so revolting it turned away a majority of the fan baseit was another culture trend that blizzard fell victim to with that awful kung fu panda movie
>>583311405>avoid the servers streamers play onso uh, just RP?
>>583311349remind me which political side started inserting politics in video games again?
>spend 4 hours travelling around the world collecting books, dying often to get a neck>blizzard nerfs itthis is never getting done on release
now that it's been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that #nochanges kings were based and 100% correct the entire time, what's next for the wow? obviously a FRESH 'nilla is coming but when?
What happened to the flat skelve poster?
magebros, is it over after the brutal nerfs?
>>583312639I thought having too many blue items early on was le heckin bad...
>>583311349Thank god for regional servers. Feels good being European.
Any NEETs playing Forever? Forever is my only purpose in life... this is so fucking sad. My setup is better than 75% of /vg/ and I have everything I want... but I'm so fucking depressed and a goon addict.
>>583312665little cunt fucks onyxia and is smug about it
>>583312639I will do it. I always do the Test of Lore quest series too
>>583312762Post your goonmats bro. Let's rate your taste.
>>583312762wow forever is just like an iteration of classica raidlog sim at max level
>>583312762you sound like my doppelganger
>>583312750>Feels good being an irrelevant homosexual.What an odd thing to say?
>>583307542Stop using my picture, CHUD
>>583312640Time gated raids are actually done for the same reason that dogs have slow feeding devices which limit how fast they eat their dinner. Blizz considers us sheep, we’re like being harvested for our wool
>>583312639Yeeeerp, that's vanilla itemization sovl right there.
Quick question, why would I bring to any raid at level 60 any healer that's not a shaman?
>>583307687Bish looks like she lost dem legs in gnam
Rate my muscle mommy
>>583312418>you've exploited this fact for your sexual fetish ritual postingNot mine, I hate furfags. I'm a draenei futafag.
>>583312836Classic Anduin fucking Tyrande>>583312862>a raidlog sim at max levelI hope this isn't true... also, what about PvP???>>583312865based
>>583312994because paladins are better
>>583312980>>583312928may i have some oats brother
I really wish forever was going to be good, I really did, I was going to play both aion 2 and it, but the dev team is completely lost, I can only doompost because I can see where it's goingall I wanted was an old school mmo where you are forced to group up with people to grind/do dungeons and are forced to socialize and make friends, that's literally the only reason why I'd want to play forever and they are already murdering it
is it true that warlock tank is real
I'm coming to terms with the fact that my autism will never let me properly enjoy a playthroughI like a Dwarf Paladin but I think that as I'll walk through Ironforge my Dwarven identity will subside to the Paladin one and my character wouldn't really relate to the spewing lava and forges and anvils and a city dug in the mountain, rather he'd feel more at home in a churchThe answer to that is to go Warrior, but there's the problem that I'd likely have to go Protection which entails sword & board which is even less Dwarf-like than a Paladin who at least uses a giant mallet. The rage-based more barbarian-like class fantasy of Warrior doesn't really leave room for 2h mace users as far as I can tell.So go back to Paladin, right? But he's a caster, chiefly, and not a mace-wielding knight. So then go Human, perhaps?But if I'm human I'd rather have the freedom to go sword & shield and be a generic fantasy adventurer.But the rage mechanics work against that.There's also class popularity to account for, let alone the Night Elf characters I'd like to play as well.It's a real conundrum. I tend towards Dwarf Pala now but I dread finding myself in Blackrock Mountain and thinking that another archetype would be more fitting to explore the place.I mean what's a mace wielder doing at a foundry anyway? You don't forge mallets
>>583313080In what world are paladins better healers than shamans in Forever?
so whats the purpose of mage?
>>583313096As much as I hate to admit it you will ultimately end up being right and it's something the majority of people here simply will not be ready for
>>583313096>and they are already murdering itHow so?
Does anyone know if Forever as the modern CD aura? For exmaple in modern when you could use Overpower the icon would turn yellow. In Classic it just looks non grey.
>>583313106>I mean what's a mace wielder doing at a foundry anyway?are you retarded
I pinged a wow forever dev, theyre gonna add lfg queue to maximize player engagement metrics now that its the main game mode
>>583312980time gated raids ruined tbc i wish #nochanges won in 2019
>>583309439A TIL about the lemming myth is Disney fucks set up the cameras then forced all the lemmings run in the direction of the cliff. Genocidal fucks.
>>583313096>an old school mmo where you are forced to group up with peopleone of the core design pillars of vanilla WoW was that you could play it solo
>>583313106shut the fuck up retard
I guess I'm going warrior because everything else besides healers is meaningless
>>583305656I'd be so happy once Vulpera are in Forever
>>583312639Where do you see these changes
>>583313106I could tell this was real when I read this line;"let alone the Night Elf characters I'd like to play as well."I also overthink this stuff.Arms Warrior Dwarf would be fine. You can forge metal 2H Maces.
>>583313096>aion 2lmfao> I can only doompost because I can see where it's goingtry to list 3 negative things (you can't)>old school mmo where you are forced to groupForever is perfect for that. I just did a couple dungeons and elite quests>socialize and make friendssounds like a (You)-Problem, I mean you are on /vg/, just work on your social skills.>they are already murdering ithow?
>bugs everywhere>some quests you cant even complete>blizzard nerfing everything>cutting skills here and there>supposed to come out of beta in a monthi dont feel so good bros...
>>583313096>all I wanted was an old school mmo where you are forced to group up with people to grindGood thing WoW was never designed like that lmao
>>583313106>>583313312I respect some levels of RP commitment to decisions.
>>583313096gb2ffxiufrickenmasochist
least transparent concern trolling
>>583301170If something wasn’t explicitly mentioned by name in Warcraft 1-3 it should not exist
>use Mark of the Wild on random person running by >they send whatever the fuck this iso-ok bro, no problem? I think?
>>583313172any nerfs to dungeons, which is why you'd group up during leveling in wow, is a nerf to social aspect of the game, and they already are nerfing dungeons, they could've offset the exp to the mobs but they didn'tthe new quests they added to the game give tons of exp, more than the old quests, yet they didn't nerf them, so they are incentivizing solo questing for leveling instead of dungeon groupingthe wow forever I want would nerf questing to the ground and force people to pve in groups, the wow forever blizzard is making will be the opposite of it
Browsing the official wow forums makes me wish this game and company ceased to exist
>>583313516Warcraft 3 was 24 years ago, boomer. Move on.
>>583313574i didn't know south africans had the internet yet
>>583313602Stop subjecting yourself to trannies
>>583313574He's dutch they're kind of just like that.
>>583313516>"Gul'dan and his Stormreaver clan have betrayed the Horde and coerced the Twilight's Hammer clan to set sail and search for an ancient tomb said to be buried beneath the waves.An infiltrator under the direction of Doomhammer reports that Gul'dan has indeed raised (Broken Isles)->|volcanic islands|<-(Broken Isles) from the ocean floor and thus has opened a hidden vault.While it is unknown what the great Warlock has released from this tomb, the War Chief has issued this command - Destroy the renegade clans and return with the head of Gul'dan."WC2, Mission 12, Orcs, The Tomb of Sargeras
>>583313036ahh one of the original sinsi see you shitting up the other generals with that garbage spam
>>583311256Build city on a swamp.... profit?
>>583311613VE DON'T DO THAT ON ZE 4CHANNEL
>>583312750>Muslims >Indians>Fr*nchI'll take the chuds here.
>>583313193now what would you do to this hammer at a forge other than use it to improve other gear?>>583313270yeah let's go back to discussing asmongold and orcs fucking elves you turgid faggot>>583313301>Arms Warrior Dwarf would be fine. You can forge metal 2H Maces.I suppose, but wouldn't a warrior be more liable to use axes? Maybe I'm thinking of Gimli too much
>>583313723I have zero sfw of that I'd post so not me
>>583313764>Build city on a swamp.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZhMJfk1cFA
>>583313707I keep forgetting the game has everybody lumped into the 1 beta server. This is the first time I've seen a different language other than random chinese spam every now and then.
>run BFD>barely any xp gained from all the mob kills>complete and turn in every single dungeon quest>not even enough xp to go from 25 to 26The dungeon quest xp was nerfed way too hard. Faggots overreacted to RFC quests feeling like they gave too much xp when 1-20 was already really fast even in classic.
y'know, i truly, truly wanted forever to be good, but... man, the writing's on the wall. i just wanted it to be good, but it's doomed and no one's going to play it. you're all going to regret wasting $15 to play it, because it won't be good, and that makes me sad. there's too many changes, but also there's not enough changes, and they're not ones i want, and they're changing things in the beta, but they're all the wrong changes, and they're all going to be the wrong changes. i just wanted the game to be good because i truly care about it.
>>583313083K
>>583313712Warcraft 2 Narrators were the GOATs
>>583313881>german boomers>espainish boomersdont forget these faggots
>>583313957My favorite part is the same sweats who bitched about dungeon quests giving too much exp are now bitching that 20-30 takes way too long.
>>583313957I saw someone on r*ddit suggest they make the exp what it was before but you get an incremental debuff that gives less exp each time you run the same dungeon. I feel like that's overall the best way to handle this situation.
shills/copers today are the whiners tomorrow when the game is completely dead in 2 months, all streamers moved away and all you'll see is doom everywhere
>>583313106Absolute retard, dorf pala is kino.
>>583313921and yet you're here with all the trash trying to push that shit into this version as fast possible
>>583312665is that... BODYTYPE TWO HAVER SHOWING THEIR MAMARIE GLANDS?
>>583314142this, so much this
>>583313881You know what we had on European servers during classic? "joel, kom skype" spam, that was it. Not terminally online leftroon and republitard culture war faggots spamming their shit 24/7. It was comfy.
>>583313969Yeah they changed the wrong things. Theyre change deprived. They should’ve been changing in the other direction. Hopefully they stop changing wrongly. Wonned bigly? More like fail team of faggots. Like if I go to one more learning disability center and find retails dev team in their easy feeding chairs im gonna buy their product because otherwise they call the blizzard armed division of gun toting jarheads to raid your private server.
>want loot from dungeon>already did quests>mob exp in dungeons is worse than grinding solo in the worldblizzard really killed the urge to dungeon again, if the beta wasnt level capped i would just move on
>>583314242yeah ours was comfy too and now both our countries are 24/7 culture war politislop.stop pretending it's an american problem
>want to make guild>know that allowing racism ends in everyone leaving except the most unhinged spergs>still wanna let people make fun of jews and indiansno idea how to go about this
>>583313957at this point i'll just quest outdoors all the way to 60, maybe i'll do some dungeons past 40 if i have enough quests, but being dps i dont expect to find competent groups fast enough to be worth it on release
>>583313957It was retards who don't realize how much xp we got from the mob kills in classic. They see the big chunks of xp all at once from the quests and assume they where overpowered, despite them just running an entire dungeon and getting a single bar of xp from all the mob kills.
>>583314242SWC is just retards crying about Asmonigger and retarded political spam but UC was just Margrave spam. I think I might go horde bwos....
>>583313896Are you saying they're more prone to using axes due to bleeding abilities such as rend? If so then, sure you have a point there.
>>583313957>be Blizzard>realize listening to your customers too much ruined your product>relaunch it entirely>immediately begin changing it after listening to the customers againI can only assume new hire orientation at Blizzard involves being put into the Retard Chamber so 40 IQ can be sucked out of their brain.
>>583314174Did I claim it's not or that he wouldn't feel at home in Ironforge which is an important aspect of quasi-RPing for me
>>583314242>>5833142842016 really broke they/them.They/them couldn't grasp that people were getting tired of they/their shit.Unofrtunately, like most things, it only lasted a few years and then the hero just became another neocon cog in the machine.But they/them continue to seethe.
>>583313957Arugal Must Die (Classic): 3,300 EXPArugal Must Die (Forever, original): 14,350 EXPArugal Must Die (Forever, update): 8,825 EXPPre-update, dungeon quests were getting a 4.3x modifier, roughly. Post-update, they're getting a 2.7x modifier instead. This is still a massive increase from their Classic values, and still averages out to each dungeon quest being approx. 20% of a level with variance.If you don't feel this is an agreeable average value for dungeon quests, report it as feedback, the same way the devs got feedback about the 4.3x modifier feeling like too much.
>>583313957Blizzard's IT department really needs to block youtube and all other social media on the office network. The Forever devs are clearly too soft to hold their ground against streamer whining, so their privileges should be revoked for their own good.
>>583314708Now post the kill exp
>>583314242which server exactlyweird how the proud defenfers of europe never specify anything
Are they still letting people in for free? I signed up today.
>>583314708Retards like yourself always directly comparing the classic to forever quest xp while ignoring the fact that the classic mobs gave a fuckload more xp throughout the dungeon run.
>>583313106Stop looking for perfection, you can't achieve it. I know ruminating for 30min about this feels like a mix of meditation and pain, but you are dealing with first world problems. Just get 3 characters ready, customize them, name them and create them. (Tank, Heal, DPS)
>tune mob XP so that well-known dungeon farms like SM, ZF, ST are worse XP/h than just playing the fucking game, but mob XP isn't worthless>tune dungeon quests to make up the differenceit's that easythey just need to sit down and do the math
>>583314875Earthshaker, later Firemaw, then whatever the consolidated server was called. Doesn't matter, they were all the same.
Why are you retards complaining about xp I thought it was about the journey not the destination?
>>583313957Kill yourself you fucking nigger
>>583315070Yes they did exactly that but then gutted the dungeon xp for no reason other than retards who can't math crying about quests being overpowered.
>>583314076If a person is slow 20-30 will probably take 20+ hours if they don't have a backlog and dungeon groups ready to goNow level your second alt once you reach 60 and the world is empty and you can't get a dungeon group at all
>>583315070Just add diminishing returns where if you do a dungeon too many times you get less and less xp until you get zero.
>>583315070>they just need to sit down and do the mathMath?When you're a Gender Studies and Indiginous Cultures major?No one studies Math anymore, Math is a racist subject, chud.
>>583315076I hope the xp stays the same. Leveling will be faster anyways with every class being buffed, ideally they buff the mobs too to balance it out
>>583315179jokes were you can easily reverse genders or politic affiliations aren't funny nor witty
Mara was actually designed for the purpose of boosting. And not only boosting, boosters were meant to loot Mara too. You actually end up making almost as much as the boosting price just from looting. Looting is literally a job too and you can little hire boosting looters who loot your items for you and then trade them. And this guy also gets his own booster who handles the delivery. And the delivery boost is actually where you need to hire your own boosting service to boost you through that hard part too. Im gonna booooost.
>>583315173We found the dev who sucks at math
Why do Sky Elves yearn for Green men?
>>583314846Kill exp for an average Wailing Caverns around levels 17-19 was 5 bars, with some wiggle. I'll be generous and call it 3 bars for the dungeons lacking in trash fights, which the previous anon's BFD is not.>>583314926Devs state intent is dungeon mob EXP is to be reduced, unchanging dev intent. Retard like you lashes out because you're massively unhappy and doesn't enjoy the game in general. If mob EXP values are always going to be low as per dev intent, retard, then the only variance is going to be the dungeon quest EXP. The same dungeon quest EXP modifier has been changed once by beta player feedback, and beta is not over, retard. The comparison to Classic is to give people a mathematical visual that they can verify themselves, not that you care when you're just bitching to either fulfill your existence as a negativity-spreading bot, or just a miserable cunt. Either be a beta player and test and give feedback, as per a beta player should, or fuck off and quit polluting the environments around you with your miserable, crab in a bucket existence, cunt.
how long will it take me to farm high warlord?
>>583315403white men
>>583309649>>583309892>>583310356>>583310435The worst thing is I sometimes hear people who elsewise speak relatively normally use that partner shit.We're just in a whole fucking weimar era now.
>>583315375No, i mean it. Braindead niggers like you who JUST HAVE TO REACH MAX LEVEL AS FAST AS POSSIBLE Fuck off wherever you cane from i would kill you in a heartbeat
>>583315076It is. I even played turdle before they doubled xp gains and the server went to shit.
>>583313712And none of that mentions anything about void elves
>>583315405>5 barsWhat a cohencidence that when it comes to shilling, there's exact numbers. Then when challenged on the total exp tradeoff, suddenly it's "vibe math" like "bars".If the same run that "had 5k more exp" from the quest gave 20k less exp from the kills, that's a massive net loss for the same content.
>>583315470People are gonna be 60 a week after release and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>583313185Bump, Im a girl please help
>>583315627And they will complain about having nothing to do while I'm level 37 and loving it.
>>583315627noooooooooo they won't be enjoying the journey!!!! They have to enjoy the heckin' journeeeeeey!!!
>>583315627Do it without ruining it for the rest of us who want an actual mmorpg adventure you fucking niggercattle subhuman bastard fucking kill yourself
>>583315070Or just do nothing. The fastest level 60 in Classic didn't use dungeons and was actually behind some other players until they went into BRD.
>>583315681You'll be getting ganked by 60s in stranglethorn and crying on reddit about MUH JOURNEY.
>>583315408It depends, you can buy a high warlord boost they pvp around the clock they got like discord service where they boost and employees who show up and log in to pvp boost. And you just stand there while the boosters farm hks for you. It’ll probably take like a couple hundred hours even with booster levels of efficiency. It’s usually not that expensive ‘c you just pay them real money or you boost your own people and then trade the gold you earned for your next boost. Just keep in mind it’s GDKP specifically that was removed, you can still just pay a flat hourly rate to buy a boost.
>ITS DA J0000Z!!!!Shut up ya fucking chuds
>>583301430What does ghostlands have to do with void elves?
>>583314671Being a dwarf is accepting Ironforge as your main city, it is the best alliance city anyway.
>>583315430>I see gay people...
>>583315773
>>583315773shalom
>>583315767im rolling RPonly niggers who dont value their time roll PVP
micro dick beaner pedo janny back for some more humiliation, i mean attention
Is playing a female human or female skelf more tranny coded?
>>583315889who the fuck asked you jeet take your meds and rope
>>583315403thank god someone finally gives her tits
>>583315681>>583315708>>583315734What if I simply enjoy my journey FASTER than others?
I will begin to FOREVERLY PROGRESS a thick steamy poo log HORIZONTALLY from my boy pussy.
>>583315403Big tits should be mandatory on elves.
>>583315957>What if I simply enjoy my journey FASTER than others?YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!! It has to be SLOW! It has to be a SLOG!!!
>>583315627I exclusively play this game once or twice a week with friends and we take months to get to 60 and more often than not we quit before doing anything endgame so I don't care what you do honey.
Classic endgame is literal dogshit why would anyone want to rush to 60?
>>583315951>>583316028
>>583315403I usually don't care for slop but something about this one gets my dick harder like nothing else
>>583315734Ironic you call others niggercattle, when you're just seething about being a wagie who can't keep up with leveling because you are locked in your wagecage
>>583315916elf
>pick up quest>do quest>pick up next quest>do next quest>NOOOOO SLOWWWWW DOWN! SMELL THE ROSES! TAKE SCREENSHOTS OF THE FOG AND SUN AND POST TO REDDIT!
>>583316241Who are you quoting
>>583316241you are basically a bot
pick up questdo questpick up next questdo next questNOOOOO SLOWWWWW DOWN! SMELL THE ROSES! TAKE SCREENSHOTS OF THE FOG AND SUN AND POST TO REDDIT!
>>583316285people that are telling others that theyre going too quick even though theyre just playing the game
>>583315627>rush to 60>spam dungeons gearing up>complain theres nothing to do because the first raid doesnt release until 12/4>cry constantly that the raid MUST be released early to please YOU>doesnt happen>rush to clear the raid night 1 as fast as possible>cry theres nothing to do>resume raidlogging>talk endless shit about Forever saying theres no content anywhere you can when you went out of your way to skip past 99% of it on purposeYou pay $15 a month to do this to yourself.
>>583315957>>583316092look for another game instead of acting like fucking redditrannies
>>583316137Well the ptr is offline so if you want to pvp you need to be max level. I wouldn’t say I like to pvp, but I wouldn’t say I don’t like to. It’s more like a type of purgatory. Where a talking rape demon plays world of Warcraft with me.
>>583316420Retards will insist on rolling pve server then think endgame is only raidlogging.
questslop = shit and should be removed/nerfed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hWoSdgaxkits up
Fags crying about others playing the game faster than them is exactly why retail turned into timegate slop.
Night Elf Females run so cutely. And I mean that in an endearing way.
>>583316241>queue for AV>press enter button>autorun to end>press exit button>repeatSOVL
Why would you rush through leveling when it's the most important part of Vanilla?
>>583316357Something banal happens Dont mention it online, like that faggot who felt the need to mention he traded a fish to somebody in goldshire and claimed it was peakWERE CONSUMING ABSOLUTE SLOP. This ragtag team of retards is selling us slop because they’re the only ones who can afford 3D modellers. These “game deisgners” are fucking abortions of a development team. They’re literally abortions who are scamming us bigly with more slop.
>>583316489This is a sincere comment because I'm new to WoW. What is endgame outside of raiding in general?
forver really did losted... very bigly.....what now to do if now blizzard cant make the game want we wanted????!
I hate the skyborne so much, they break the immersion and I will /spit on them at every opportunity
leveling is so good that people pay money to skip it
>>583316574Damn, Alex's taste sucks
>>583316668https://files.catbox.moe/zfvr4s.mp3
>>583316489They do it on PvP too. The saddest part is that all theyre doing is following a guide to the letter and belittling anyone that suggests anything outside of said guide. A massive subset of gamers have become that one faggot 20 years ago that kept spamming>whats the best specAnd they refuse to play anything but that and refuse to do anything but play in a way that unironically optimizes all the fun out of playing the game.
>>583316668Killing the enemy faction.
>>583316679the only good games to play are dota 2, warcraft 3 on wc3champions, modded skyrim and indie games by hodded horse
>>583316717>elves break my immersion in my fantasy RPG
>>583316668griefing the enemy faction
>>583316717Stay mad, fag
the legacy points in game right now are character-only
>>583300867I feel like I shouldn't still be using Haggard's Sword in Deadmines, right? Did I miss an upgrade somewhere.
FUCKING HUNTARD STOP BREAKING SHEEP
>>583316751Sensational>>583316759>>583316805Y'know what hell yeah I can get down with that
>>583316918>Y'know what hell yeah I can get down with thatmake sure to roll on PVPor RP-PVP if blizzard caves and adds it
>>583315784>it is the best alliance city anyway.This, Ironforge is cozy as fuck. I hate that Blizzard has been pushing everyone to Stormwind since 2010.
>>583313106>sword & board which is even less Dwarf-like than a PaladinThunder clap is the most dwarf-life ability in the game and improved thunder clap is a prot talent.
>>583316721It’s fun on a new fresh realm. I think the next big re re rerelease challenge mode will be fresh realm reset when naxx gets cleared and everyone gets a number next to their name that goes up, because you technically helped. And by like the 200th clear basically they’ll do a special event where you can meet the game developer who has trapped you inside naxxramas in real life
>>583316092You can just not play the game if you hate it that much. There are two other flavors of WoW for fags like you.
Wow has never had good endgame gameplay.
>>583316826Buy a green from the AH. That’s the true SOVL classic experience.
>roll pvp server>take twice as long questing because im fighting and corpse running>spend more time enjoying the best part of the game
>>583313106>sword & board which is even less Dwarf-likecan you not just use axe & board?
>>583316942I've heard that the RP servers are turbo spergs about that and I've never really done RP before so not sure about that one.
Endgame should be deleted entirely and once you get to 60 you should be automatically reset back to level 1 so you can do the journey all over again forever. Simple as.
>>583316668Ganking enemy players 30 levels lower than you so you can feel like a man.
>>583317117best part of wow is being out in the world and pvp servers means the world is more alive with more stuff to do. pve servers are just raid logging waiting rooms.
>>583317054No. I'm going to rush to 60 and exploit whatever is exploitable before it gets patched. Then I'm going to laugh at all you losers that got left in the dust :)
>>583317139just don't name yourself Chad Thundercock, that's all you have to do to be good with RPers
>>583316806you look like an high elf and thats what they shouldve used instead
>>583316092>bro I followed RestedXP to the letter and got to max level super fast>bro I followed the gear guide to the letter and im preraid bis super early>bro I joined a speedrunning guild and we cleared the raid in 24 minutes>fuck man this shit game has nothing to do fucking worthless blizzard why cant you fucking do anything right release all the raids already my speedrunner guild just found a strat online we are going to steal that lets us clear every classic raid in a total of 82 minutes>God this game sucks theres no content anywhere what the fuck>see you next week guys>*raidlogs*What you do is a form of self cucokoldry.
>>583317220I know. I was being serious. I am rolling warrior, will get raped in the open world, and will still enjoy every minute of it.
asmongold defended:>piratesoftware >ziqo >RMT >GDKP im starting to suspect that asmon just takes whatever position is the most controversial without actually believing any of it. that becomes even more obvious when you look at his politics.
I say Asmon, you say gawd!ASMON!
>>583317263They won't call me gay if I don't RP walk or talk in character and shit? Hmm I might look more into that if that's the case.
>>583317368i know he defended maldavius figtree because they were friendswhy did he defend those other things? particularly RMT, what kind of retard defends RMT
>>583317368No, defending ziqo is defending rmt is defending gdkp. They are all symptoms of a larger issue that asmon and all streamers benefit from that theyre desperate to cool the community's tempers on. Theyre circling the wagons because none of them expected any of them to ever face consequences. Even if that rat goblin payo just ban evaded and didnt get punished for it.
>>583317401as a rule conversation in /say and /yell are in character but /party is pretty much always OOCeven then i doubt anyone will give you grief for /say inv?
>>583317139RP servers are just people who are more willing to talk and fuck around. Leveling on the pvp rp server was insanely fun even when me and my friend had dumb meme names like toesucker.If they make an rp pvp server even if it comes out after launch im dropping my server and rerolling on it immediantly.
>>583317401Just say you're roleplaying as a Earth human isekai'd into Azeroth.
>>583317368>that becomes even more obvious when you look at his politics.anodyne dad politics are next-level controversial on twitch
gonna play gnome rogue really excited to play gnome roguethanks
>>583317526>ban evadedNo such thing. If your account gets perma'd you have always been free to buy another one.This is why "blizzard won't ban streamers because they're free advertising" is retarded. Streamers are addicted and will just buy new accounts. Blizzard doesn't ban streamers because they're pissing their pants in fear at the thought of accidentally banning someone who turns out to be innocent, AND has a giant audience.
>1940 hp unbuffed, not a tank spechows it goin bros
>mfw everytime i see a skyborne
>>583317682dying in deadmines
>>583317146They should add a HCPvP server for the real wow enjoyers.
>>583316092>I HAVE TO BE THE FASTEST I will never be the fastest>I HAVE TO PARSE THE HIGHESTI will never parse the highest>I HAVE TO SKIP OVER AS MUCH OF THE GAME AS POSSIBLE>I MUST TREAT WOW LIKE A HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT THAT MUST BE COMPLETED IN AS LITTLE TIME AS POSSIBLE EACH WEEK>I AM CONVINCED THAT WILLINGLY WASTING MY $15 A MONTH IN THIS MANNER MAKES ME BETTER THAN SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT
I am Israeli which race should I roll
>>583317368that's his grift, it's how he makes money, he makes all the failures of society rally around him by always taking the most contrarian position because those rejects feel left out so they can only be moved by hating whatever the normal position is
>>583317146I'd like it if they could just let you "prestige" your character and relevel to 60 for those legacy points.
>>583317556>>583317567I'm noticing that people are pretty antisocial on horde and alliance PvE from my experience so far so that sounds much nicer. I only wanted to do PvE for the beta to learn basic shit without getting jumped but probably will try PvP on launch. I'll for sure be looking for that if they decide to do it.>>583317619AnIQTooHigh?.png
>>583317806Human.Male.Warrior.GO BIG DICK DOOD!!!!!!!!!!! MAN MODE
>>583317368who cares what that retard thinks tho
>583317806>guise look i said israel pls give me attention
>>583317897He's literally a wowf game dev, so its kinda important.
WoW Endgame:-RP-RP-PVP-RP-PVE-PVE-PVP
>>583318003He should develop a game that teaches him how to brush his teeth and then he can do WoW related stuff afterwards, as a treat.
>dodger hates asmon and olympusmaaan, ever since they added pronouns to their little podcast, they've become more retarded
>>583317368He has openly done everything Piratesoftware and Ziqo did so only natural he would
>>583317368He also defended cuckolding and getting findommed so are you really that surprised
>>583317432>why did he defend those other things? particularly RMT, what kind of retard defends RMTHe defends it because it lets him get free gold from his community.
>>583317806Orc is the OG of systemic genocide
Connect the dots, what does cata, mop, wod, and midnight have in common with forever wow? The world isn’t always your oyster. Blizzard is going off the rails and the result is a complete trainwreck. Theyre really barking up the wrong tree here, the population of tired gamers are sipping with one single thought in their heads. “WTF?”. Hopefully this is a turning point and we’re crossing the rubicon. The pendulum is swinging, the old guard is giving way. With ascensions the table turned, but only briefly. It was a complete shot in the dark. Theyre totally robbing Peter to pay Paul here. It’s like a clown circus at blizzard these days. Totally defiled my expectations of forever wow. Theyre ball is already rolling after ascensions huge payout, I suspect this isn’t even the tip of the iceberg. They say looks can be deceiving, maybe the full game is better than the beta.
>>583318129Cucking is just kinda sad and pathetic but I guess there's nothing "wrong" with it but findom has always felt like mentally retarded dudes getting swindled to me.
>>583317851People who play on RP servers also actually speak fucking english which is a major reason I like them too. Playing on normal wow servers its common to see hordes of ESLs who can barely speak english or people who can't even speak english, tons of chinks running around.Before the downside of RP servers was that they're smaller which made the world feel less alive, but since we have mega servers I don't think it will really be an issue this time.If your problem has been having bad interactions with people you'll definitely have way better interactions on RP, but I just can't play WoW without it being a pvp server.
>>583318104Nta, but I dont really give two shits about asmon. He can be funny at times but some cult figure he is not. Hes just having fun leading his roach swarm around and making them dance for his own amusement.The problem comes from the dumb shit the roach swarm does when not being controlled by him directly. Majority of them are just nonstop aoe begging for attention in general & trade chat and a lot of them are actively disruptive to the game itself.
>>583317771Sex elf poster here How did you get a video of me
>>583313106Did you not play wc3 you fucking poser? Answer this first.
>>583318090He doesn't have teeth, they're all veneers. Its called minmaxing life you Palestinian terrorist.
>>583318003>the guy who would be a cashier at dollar general if it werent for streaming knowing anything about game developmentthats a kekw my friend
>>583318294>so bad at brushing teeth you have to get fake teethThat's actually kind of sad, unironically. Is he even that old? I always thought he was like in his mid to late 30s at this point but I actually have no idea
I want them to add RP-PVP. But if they do it, they'll have to also add PVP 2 or else people will use RP-PVP just to play the other faction.
>>583318246>findom has always felt like mentally retarded dudes getting swindled to me.It's just another level of humiliation for people who get off on that shit, loss of control etc. It's funny to see people be surprised that he got with that asian girl when one of her main occupations is to do findom on onlyfans. Big surprise he was into it
>>583318268disruptive how? i've had zero issue with them.asmon didn't even stream today and we had like 2 big crashes
still paying for wow is the ultimate findom
>>583318409the guy cant even clean his room so it shouldnt come as a surprise he cannot even clean his teeth
>>583318258I don't usually care about random languages if it's not stopping me from doing shit either way but my main issue is nobody actually wants to join up for quests and doesn't bother responding to inv requests or denies them. Kinda AIDS with dungeon exp being so gimped now.
it's called femdom not findom
>>583315403Because watching my wife get ORCED is fucking basedThis is coming from a male human paladin/warrior player.
>>583318321Asmon is the son of a glowie, he worked for IRS before mossad contracted him to be an online influencer to help the IDF fight online anti semitism.
>>583317368no, he is just beyond retarded. an unlearned fucking failure of a human being.
>>583318501Their favorite thing seems to be teams of hunters kiting the mist vale prowler into lakeshire, Sentinel Hill, goldshire and SW. Often bringing it near the flight path.Its a skull elite with 25k health that can kill guards easily. Pulses aoe combat that never fades and can hit Z axis so you cant even safespot it and it DOES NOT leash.
opt-in code status?
>>583318460I get the humiliation part but with shit like ruined orgasms or cucking etc it's just your pride. Findom is your actual livelihood that these retards seem to be throwing away for it.
>>583318616Forgot to sign my post...my badSincerely,Esfandp.s. don't forget to check out my youtube
>>583318668maybe they'll give those out on the 5th of oct because that's when aion 2 free to play launches
>>583318621he should probably do a better job then. if anything, he's helping to spread it instead of fight it
>>583302431damnthis is me in November when I have no plans to actually play seriously but will login and just fucking bliss out on the SOVLmaybe be lvl 60 by like next November
>>583318661those shitheads would do the same with or without himthat kind of shit is part of an old mmo
Blizzard circus is coming to town. Transmogged their buggati to clown costumes and they dance too.
>>583318727esfand went horde(fembelf in tbc, undead in forever)
>>583303445You think you do, but you don't.™
>>583318129Asmon is into findom he's openly talked about it before. It's also no coincidence his current azn gf also did onlyfans ASMR findom roleplays, thats where he found her.
>>583318935oh he is 100% getting divorcerapedand it will probably make him cum
i didnt know asmon was actually /ourguy/
>>583319058>not Wonder BoyimWhat happened to clever naming conventions?
>>583317771wpsg poster here How did you get a video of me
>>583319058Asmon is not gonna like that name bro, prepare to be mass reported by 37,000 Olympus members!!!
World of Warcraft: Forever: Classic
>>583318861Esfand hereJust chiming back in and making sure no one thinks switching factions makes me any less of a cvckholdIt doesn't, don't worry
>makes #nochanges cryboomers seethe
Forever will have very good bgs
>>583319419level 30 cmon
This game is crap. Total shit, it’s worse than I was ever expecting. And trust me, my expectations were already ruined with midnight. This is actually pathetic. Theres no good games being made these days. Apparently they’re marketing this to mentally disabled retards with this this isn’t a video game. Totally wasted my time again and again when are gamers gonna rise up and start funding a new passion crew.
think im going to start a rogue on era
>>583319419same as it's always been for low level BGs
>can't decide on faction>can't decide on classIt's truly over for me.
>>583319730undead warrior
>>583319527You as the gnome, fucking little faggot.
>>583319616
>>583319730this nigga always crying
>>583319794i dont get it
I'm kind of starting to regret taking PTO from Nov 4-16...
>>583319789Hillsbrad PvP is always so goofy.
What is this shit that keeps popping up in my chat?
can i just sit in defensive stance forever as prot warrior now?
>>583319527I'm having fun :)
>>583319836what if it's really shitty
>>583319934goyim marker, it lets you know who is incapable of thinking for themselves
>>583319934obnoxious addon dev leaves the announcement on by default to advertise his leveling addon
>>583319934>nearly an hour to get from level 9 to 10FUARK DOOD THAT'S SOVL RIGHT THERE I FUARKING LOVE NILLER
>>583319730>tfw no character roulette pic
>>583319973whatabout a blast, are you having that
>>583319527sounding an awful lot like a cryboomer now ngl
>>583320075i always use that online wheel to pick
>>583320012>>583320057Are you saying people pay for something like that? I literally have no idea what I'm doing and have never played WoW before and I have 2 level 20s and am working on another character right now. Taking that long to go from 9-10 doesn't seem like a very good advertisement...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJof59hwBo
>>583319730and they still haven't really done anything with the fucking sword
>half the friend group wants to play alliance>half the friend group wants to play horde>both refuse to even consider changing their mindthis is not going to end well
>>583320170
>>583320242Sounds like half the group are fags and the other half will be on horde
>>583320192kino fr
Close gameUgly BG
>>583320192Now THIS is Forever.
>>583320271Jesus these retards really are helpless. Why the fuck would you even bother to "play" the game if you're doing shit like this anyways?
Is it better to use heroic strike over sunder as a low level warrior nowadays? Also where should I put my talents
>>583320213they showed what it was aimed at, at least. Not sure what else people want. Pretty obvious it was supposed to kill azeroth's worldsoul.
>>583320271Why doesn't blizzard just change their API so this can't be used?
>>583320192>no ai cant make videogames chuddie and it never wil-ACKKKKKKKKK
>>583320271literally everyone pirates it
>>583320509>directly stealing from 2 existing video games and mashing them together>"look at this new game I made :DDD"grim
>>583320473there was an entire expansion about dealing with part of the aftermath, and it's still there killing the planet while the characters were busy with the j-lor, gay dragons and the tranny dagger
>>583320604worked for turtle
>>583320604worked for wow
>>583304342Speed running guilds don’t stop to drink.
>>583320581What exactly are they pirating? The addon just tells you where to go for max efficiency or something?
>>583320635I'd rather the devs continue to pretend BfA didn't exist.
>>583320170https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTjnchgGhU4
>>583320490how do you know it's not blizzard behind the scene making and selling this shit, just like botting and gold selling, they make their jewish lawyers go after private servers with actual international rico chanrges, yet let this shit fly by, seems pretty sus to methe hubris on display the last 15 days is jaw dropping, i personally wouldn't put it past them
>>583320705the addon is free, the files for the guides are paywalled, so people just upload the addon files to idk whatever website i forget it like the instant they get released
>>583304413Yes and no. Raids have bis items that last for multiple raid tiers. You also have a major loot scarcity issue, where something like a brut blade is actually kinda shit, but the next thing you know you’re in AQ40 with this dog shit weapon you got week 1 and still can’t replace despite running every raid there is every lock out.
>>583320748lol
>>583320748damn they took down the video, here is the github of the rested exp "crack" and here is a website where you can just copy paste your battle tag and it will auto generate the code for you to use with the add onhttps://github.com/mkccl/restedxp-reencrypthttps://restedxp.cheswick.dev/
>>583320890was just gonna post that too kek>>583320787Still kind of retarded to use but at least the people can still yoink it without paying like extra retards
>>583320739same, but everything that came after as well. I want them to stop all the effort on retail and start again with Forever
>>583301527>Guy who openly mocks his customers actually gets firedIs this a first for the gaming industry?
>>583301527>>583321039>Tom Ellis firedI still haven't seen proof of it
>>583321039no because it didn't happen. pig poster has just been ritualposting for days
>>583307664My account is 50% my gnomish harem.
>>583319730>knew my class and faction immediatelyfeelsgood
Hunter pets:>mortal strike>curse of tongues>can't be dispelled >doesn't take up GCD>100% uptime
>>583321003I won't try to change your mind, but dragonflight was honestly great (besides evokers being gay furfag shit). dragonriding "fixing" flying mounts by turning it into a real game mechanic instead of just noclipping through the sky was the best thing they've done to retail.
>>583320490I don't think that's possible without breaking every single add-on.
>>583321320>but dragonflight was honestly great
>>583320367Maybe you needed more hunters.
>>583317368>Discord Chat:OP: Ok guys, I'm gonna post the Asmon post, you know what to do.EggGroomer69: GOGOGOGOGOG!!!
i dont know if i want to play alliance or horde on launchalliance:easier to rp as themwife likes them moreironforge is best city in gamegood starting areashorde:old orgrimmar has soulbetter variety in racesundercity 2nd best city in gamemore shaman races
>>583318232>chefs kiss
>>583319730>can't decide on faction>can't decide on class>can't decide on race>can't decide on pvp/pve
>>583321448going horde on pvp and alliance on rp
>>583320954>>583320890>>583320921https://restedxp-guide-vault.pages.dev/
>>583321320a single mechanic that makes you travel between world quests faster doesn't make an expansion "great"i'm ready to come back to wow as long as they get their shit together. Forever is a good start, cause it's a fresh one. But since it's blizz we are talking about, they have high chances of fucking it all up
>>583321406it was, though. thats why the only criticism you see is about gay npcs or other culture war nonsense unrelated to gameplay
>>583320115>whatabout a blast, are you having thatI am as a matter of fact! :) Not being a bitter, jaded cunt tends to make a lot of things more enjoyable.
Hopefully they add flying mounts and increase the level cap every time new raids come out. They could let us go to Outland and Northrend too. Also transmog is a MUST, along with achievements. Some cash shop mounts would be nice, not a requirement though. I just like getting the cool mounts for money, helps beat the line for alar. Also they should increase the DPS of dungeon items, that’s a fun way to make it more fun. Leveling sucks, I just wanna rush to 60 like the pros do. I probably won’t do any raids or arena, so id like them to make a LFR so I can also get to see the raids they make.
>>583319730i saw the warlock tank video and now i know what class i'm picking
>>583321112Pigposter here. It happened. I already told you, no big announcement. Wait 2 more weeks and all will be clear. Patriots are in control.
they're calling it goydar
>Orc>Warrior>PVESimple as.
>>583321792
>>583321907link?
>>583322041Are you inviting me to a frat gangbang?
>>583321960i'm trusting the plan
>>583322041hehe
>>583322054https://youtu.be/IJFmTqRJwdsi'd heard elsewhere that voidwalkers produce a shitload of AoE threat now but until i saw this video i wasn't sure they could actually tank dungeons
>>583322163>ai slop thumbnail
Can we get more of that elf slop in here? I'm horny again.
all quests should get the same nerf that the dungeon quests received, that would fix the game.
>>583322150Based
>>583322224gooning?we need to lock up your clitty for locktober
>>583321287its okay, rogues will do more dps on bosses that stand still and do nothing so its balanced
>>583322326noooooooo :(
this is why they joined the alliancehttps://files.catbox.moe/5pgbzk.png
>>583310939sorry to necro this a bit but I thought I'd actually elaborate on the things you're confused about.The fundamental difference between gw2 having lots of powercreep over the years(as naturally happens in any game) and wow increases the level cap every expansion or upping the ilvl max every raid tier is that the power ceiling of gw2 is still low enough after all that creep that content from launch is still something a max level veteran player can engage with and is sometimes even still relevant in the modern day. >you said "same max stats" as 2012, which is VERY different.in gw2 its actually not, as gear does nothing on its own. A piece of gear has a prefix which determines what stats it gives you and then its rarity determines how much of those stats it gives you(ascended being the highest stats and legendary giving the same stats but letting you swap prefix and runes for no cost). You also have runes that you can slot in for unique effects, but the overall point is that whether a gear piece came out neat launch or in visions of eternity isn't super important. What is important is the prefix and the runes, which yes there has been plenty of powercreep in both of those but celestial and berserker both still see frequent use which would be my example of "same gear as 2012"(could also point out how all legendaries are just as relevant as the day they launched)I don't know if you're being disingenuous or the concept is just so foreign to you but to put it simply when people talk about horizontal progression they mean they want to be able to head back to the barrens and still have something to do there regardless of what level they are or what the new expac is because its right outside orgrimar of course shit would be happening there. I understand wow doesn't quite lend itself to that without fundamental changes but the important thing for forever is just that if they ever add new zones or raids they don't make the rest of azeroth numerically obsolete.
>>583321287Anyone who thinks a non-hunter class has a sliver of hope in winning the duel tournament is out of their fucking mind.
keep this up and you're gonna get detained
>>583322460Good for them honestly
>>583321512Only thing I need to figure out is what I'm doing for PvP. Asmon Ally or Tranny Horde
>>583321287The bat scream is actually just super curse of tonguesnot only does it increase cast times by the same amount, it also INCREASES YOUR GCD, and cant be dispelled I guess the anti-homogenization doctrine only applies to non hunters
>>583322751I'm gonna cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum
>>583322460would be hot if the satyr was a femboy
What is even the point of holy strike except as filler bloat?
>>583322751I love big titties
I really can't decide what to play. I'm stuck on a pvp server because of the people I play with. I want to tank, but druid, paladin, and warrior all feel like ass in pvp. The only hope is if somehow balance druid is good.Gnome Warrior>Prot feels amazing in pve>Has an amazing racial for Warrior's biggest flaw>Gets less failures on gnome engineer devices which is also strong for 1v1 wpvp>devs and community needlessly hate the class even though it has been ass for 20 years outside of classic>Worried that it will be either overplayed or over nerfed>If I have to dps, fury is the most fun when compared to ret, feral, and boomkin>dps warrior doesn't really bring anything to a raid outside of damage>if they buff rogue, mage, warlock, and hunter dps then warrior is absolutely fucked in all forms of pvpHuman Paladin>Prot is strong but it's mostly passive damage and abilities, so kind of boring>Probably the best farming potential of the three>Ret seal twisting looks like ass to play>Gets shit on in pvp so hard by every other class, entire ability to fight is shut down by priest/shaman dispels.>No ranged attack. No interrupt. No real mobility. Is the most unfun class for pvp of the three by far. At least warrior can fight back.Night Elf Druid>Feels like a shittier warrior to tank as>Has to deal with combo points and bleeds for dps, disgusting >feral is ass in pvp, but it's the easiest to play due to overlap with bear items>easiest and fastest to level by far, so I can get ahead of the curve at launch>easiest to escape from bad wpvp scenarios>balance offspec is probably the only spec that will be good in wpvp of the threeI just want to have fun. I think warrior is the most fun but also the most likely to be a huge let down due to how everyone wants to destroy the class.
>>583323118take estrogen and you can have big titties whenever you want
>>583310371runescape introduced barrows gloves in 2006 and they were still the BIS melee gloves in the 2007 build that was the basis for the 2013 relaunch of OSRSthey haven't been BIS since 2019 but are still 2nd best and are much easier and cheaper to get than the actual BISthis is a common trend in runescape, the old BIS becomes a stepping stone to the new BIS meaning new players (and alts) have use for old gear meaning there's always demand for old gear meaning there's always profit to be found in running old content and selling the dropssometimes old BIS is actually a crafting component for making the new BIS, for example when torva was added there was concern it would make bandos obsolete so they made it so that the boss drops damaged torva armor (useless) and you have to use bandos armor as a crafting component to fix the damaged torva armor, thus maintaining relevance for bandos even at endgameadmittedly this is a bit harder to do in a game where nearly everything is BoP but the core principle is that old content remains relevant nearly foreverpeople still run barrows and that's content from 2006there are 3 raids, introduced years apart, and they all drop BIS items
am i expected to heal the warlock when the lifetap down to 10%
>>583323237you will heal zee warlock
>>583323137What are your friends thinking about playing?
now that wow forever is dead, what's the next mmo we'll try?
>>583323150no you'll just end up with lopsided lumps until you pay another doctor for implants
wetlands dungeon is cool, if a little short
>>583323358come play era with me. we will start a brand new guild
>>583323137>Gets shit on in pvpPaladin is a support class you're looking at it the wrong way if you want to be the star of the show.
>>583323237>am I expected to do my jobyeah
>>583323237Wait for him to bandage.
>>583323237a lil heal over time is nice i think
>"Hey anybody need (this quest for elite mob)?">*crickets*>2 niggers run in out of nowhere and kill with no inviteI hate the fucking subhuman niggers that infest this beta so much
>>583323420no
>>583323470I promise you those people were whites or white adjacent "hispanic"
I will play a male tauren hunterI will level as Survival and use two handed weaponsI will level with pet taunt off and melee enemies to deathI will not meta duel wield Earthmother guide my axe into streamer skulls
>>583323471*holds sword to your head*yes
>>583323137>>if they buff rogue, mage, warlock, and hunter dps then warrior is absolutely fucked in all forms of pvpThey did. Warrior is considered a hyrbid so it wont deal as much dmg as pure dps classes. Only mage seems to be slacking in pvp because of the kitting nerfs but hunters seem busted with their new pets and sniper shot plus traps in combat and rogues get their five finger death punch to delete people.
>>583300867My mom never stops talking about her old WoW days but insists never to play again because she feels 'unskilled'I told her WoW Forever might be the last chance to potentially find some of her old guildmates, but she's not listening, she's stuck on 'I can't do it' which depresses me. I worry my mom's lost passion in vidya in general, she eagerly restarts any game she gets, she straight-up doesn't want to progress in anything. I kinda want to push WoW Forever harder onto her, but in the end I cannot make her play a game she doesn't want to. What do you guys think about it?
>>583323470thats why they added the request to join group on the character portrait
>>583323545*Licks blade and smirks whilst looking up at you*Is that a threat?
>>583323529Whatever the fuck they are I keep running into nothing but them the entire time and it's annoying. Why do these freaks never want to group up. None of these fucks want to play an mmo it seems.
>>58332347090% of these "people" play alliance. never had this happen on horde, always alliance.
it's insane how they're making druid and shaman into buffbots because they "have to balance that the warriors will be getting those buffs", the dev team is fucking retarded and want everyone to play warrior again
>>583323340I think paladin is the least picked amongst them, literally only one playing that on the beta. This is the same core like 15 people I've played with in several iterations of WoW. Warrior is likely the most popular pick, but predominantly dps warriors. They're a bunch of meta parse junkies, but they're fair with loot and clear everything so I don't mind. With 10 20 and 40 raids, it means you need 8 tanks for 10 mans, and likely 2 for 40, so I am anticipating having to play one of the three's physical dps specs.
>doing a kill quest>/shout and /say invite for kill quest?>no reply>click on everyone around me>nobody has a crown>invite them to my group>they all join
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hWoSdgaxkholy fucking shit, brutal.new dungeon sucks ass apparently.>3 bosseswhat is this retail-esque garbage?
>>583323687I only care about it because of shaman. They have to balance shaman around always having WF but for classes like rogue and warrior they just get WF as a bonus.
>>583323597yeah you need to make her do it. tell her you'll play with her and it's important for you to make memories with her
>>583323614They always ignore it when I try>>583323676Maybe I'll try horde instead and see if it's any better
>>583323442>star of the showI just want to not have to eat shit on a pvp server anytime I log in and do something outside of raids. Paladin really feels bad trying to fight basically anyone 1v1. Reck isn't even a thing for ret anymore. I'd probably get stuck playing holy shock off spec.
>>583323765buy an ad faggot
reminder that if you want every class to feel the same and the whole game to be homogenized plug-and-play, then you should be playing retail
>>583323724I don't know what magic you're using but these cocksuckers always ignore my invites
I was dead set on playing druid or shaman but with the direction they are going I will play either warrior or paladin now, I'm not gonna be some bitch ass npc watching the protagonists do stuff, fuck you
>>583323892
>>583323770wf totem should stack with wf weapon imbue, it’s only fair
who is this alex fag and why is he constantly promoting his shit here
>>583323586Sacraficing the world content to balance around parses in raids is a terrible mistake by the dev team.>we want the world to be the focusWell they're doing a shit job at their goal with the world balance and experience for classes then.
>>583323908same but im playing rogue now
Blizzard here. We will never make a dungeon that tops Blackrock Depths and we don't want to. That's not the story we wanted to tell.
>femhuman warlock>femnelf priestnothing else needed.
>wetlands dungeon>zoom past the first boss>slow to a crawl the 2nd boss because the raptors rape your tanks with bleeds and adds that spawn from no where to rape your healer>zoom to the final boss with 2 pulls
>>583323956They already confirmed a BRD length dungeon. Will it be "as good" as BRD who knows
>>583323956Whatever time they're spending making 5 man dungeons and leveling dungeons is wasted. People will blast through them, right into raids and then a year from now no one will bother touching them because everyone will skip right into a raid using RMT discord carries.
>>583323068https://files.catbox.moe/ijsjrm.png
>>583324060*reports every toon in the RMT discord so they all get perma'd*
>>583323781>I can save my mother's passion>But I must play WoW to do itUhhI'm going to be honest I hate this game with a passion, I've hated all of you since I got to level 20 and noticed it was taking a whole day to progress at all, and then the endless watching my brothers and sisters play Molten Core or whateverthefuck again and again and again and getting fuck-all from it when all I wanted to do was check out the newest area in Ragnarok Online.
Anons? >What will be the max. hype population? >How long will it last?>What will be the stable pop AFTER the hype?Can WoW Forever compete with Fortnite, League of Legends, Roblox, Valorant, Minecraft, GTA?
>>583324060theyll be skipped anyway because they nerfed the exp rates of the mobspeople with 60 mains will just have a guildy blow through the dungeons for them for the dungeon quests and never do it again properly
Hopefully they make thunderfury easier to get solo. I don’t want to pay for it in a gdkp, that’s too expensive for me. I also don’t want to wait in some long guild ran MC group. I should just be able to get it similar to other items. Maybe a type of turn in quest reward where the materials aren’t rolled for you just get a set amount every run. And it’ll give a thunderfury from a quest turn in after like 2 or 3 runs of molten core.
>>583323805It's by design. You heal and support your teammates while they do the work. Druid sounds like it suits your preferences better.
>>583324094Faggot needs tauren dick
>>583324094yippee
>>583324321hype will last for 2 months, the initial leveling and the first month of raidingthen it will make a sharp 45 degree dip when people realize its more of the same
in remembrance of Edwinhttps://files.catbox.moe/xl2grp.mp4
>>583323765You abandoned M&M fuck you
>>583322460the covered pussy was so hot on the whitemane gens, good to see it here too
>>583324321>>What will be the max. hype population? Because of mega servers, it will be enough. We aren't going to have dried up empty servers like era.>>How long will it last?It will most likely be a permanent thing like retail. HC will also be big.>>What will be the stable pop AFTER the hype?It will exceed retails pop if you don't count chinks.>Can WoW Forever compete with Fortnite, League of Legends, Roblox, Valorant, Minecraft, GTA?Kids don't want to play 20+ year old mmos, but some might when it comes to xbox.
>>583324435Please don't say that... I want to no-life this game "FOREVER". But okay... 45 degree dip? How much players. Will there be a million? 2 million? And then after the first 2 months like 500k - 1 million left?
>>583324030 >They already confirmed a BRD length dungeon Bro please don't tell me you believed this >>583324060Put a couple of 1% drop chance epics and thread 20 quests into it retoilet brain
How else would you balance classes? The utility provided by a class should be taxed on the class giving the utility. The only way to make it not as dramatic is to standardise the utility or reduce it. Or just accept the tax.
can you make an evasion tank in this game?
>>583324557>when it comes to xbox.i hadn't even considered this possibility. but it's owned by microsoft, it runs on a toaster, AND it has experimental controller support. of course it's coming to xbox.
>>583324438Playable gnolls when
>>583324557Great, thanks. I'm a bit worried because chinks are in the mega realm, I feel like they will fuck up the economy.>Kids don't want to play 20+ year old mmos, but some might when it comes to xbox.I don't mean kids, I just mean player numbers compared to those "hype" games. I mean the average gamer age is 35 now ... so ...
>>583324557>It will exceed retails pop if you don't count chinks.how many people do you think play retail? it has significantly more people than classic and i dont even play retail
>>583324579Dungeon grinds are too hard for new players. Solo loot was a good way to make it more fair. New players don’t like reserves or gdkps, they also don’t want to think at all they just wanna queue up and farm a couple times and get the best loot dropped straight into their bags. They deserve the best loot just as much as other people do. Osrs had a massive loot crisis, because tbow was too expensive. It totally ruined the game when the items take too much grinding. Grinding isn’t really skill it just means you have nothing to do in real life. Im a busy guy and got lots going on in the real world but I like to game it up hardcore style and collect the best items. If I can’t do that I’ll just be taking my time elsewhere. I’ve been gaming hardcore for 2 hours on the weekend on retail and I’ve got most of the best shit already.
>>583324438Wtf I wish I had a trans gf like that
>>583323765Blizzard made a shittier version of Turtle Crescent Grove which everyone there said was a shit dungeon kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWvNVtvnQm0
>>583324643the next xbox is also just a pc with an xbox front end like a steam deck is just a linux computer with a steam front end, it was going to be playable on xbox anyway.
>>583324625Needs a complete overhaul on a content design level. Should probably just delete forever and pretend it didn’t happen. The clown show at blizzard is just proof they’ve totally lost touch with reality.
>>583324625First off I'd make World of Warcraft 2, the fanbase is tired and deserves a brand new game.
>>583323116It's something they can lean into later with tier sets that modify your playstyle.
>>583324572Bro, it's too late to get in on the worldwide sensation. We needed you 20 years ago. Not now.
MAKE A NEW THREAD
>>583324816Definitely not enough. Retail always feels completely dead whenever I go back to play it. LFG stuff can take fucking hours to find anything and I remember pvpers saying the queues were also completely dead with queue times worse then Marathon.If people "play" wow, it seems to mostly just be sitting in the capital while they play dress up and waiting for a queue to pop.
Kinda unrelated but wasn’t 20-30 always considered the lowest point of vanilla leveling?
>>583324826The problem is you're thinking about it like a player who has played 10,000 hours and knows how everything interacts. An average player isn't going to approach a dungeon and go 'welp better rev up my add-ons', they're gonna say 'I'd better be careful'
>>583325305No, it was the higher levels where you just kinda dungeon spammed which we wont be able to do anymore.
The customer is king. They should be giving me all the best loot just as fast as kingen style players get to have it. I have being seen in stormwind using worse loot than other people got. They basically cheated to get it anyways, as they were born into a better situation. Blizz shouldn’t be doing this to their subscriber counts. I hate paying money to feel inadequate. They should also normalize arena team ratings so we all have the same rating. And remove r1 titles in general because I end up feeling so fucking bad and ashamed about myself for being low ratings in pvp. Gaming should be about inclusivity and respect for the subscriber.
>>583325305I've seen people say every bracket after level 10 is the lowest point so who the fuck knows. Especially since they added multiple new areas in those level ranges.
>>583325304Retail is just too complex, too hard. People want easy games, that's why classic is popular.
>>583325305Let's be real, anything beyond 20 was a ridiculous chore the game never needed.
>>583325369did you reply to the wrong post? that's a shitpost about how casuals only want to play retail
>>583325446Bro I can hold down a single button and have the game automatically do my rotation for me.
Realistically how long do you think Asmonbald will actually play for?He only played SoD for less than a month, and TBC/WOTLK for even less
>>583325305Around 40 you start to get fewer and fewer quests. You can tell they ran out of dev time.>>583325530Unironically the fact that there even is a rotation is a much higher level of complexity than classic.If it's anything like XIV though it's probably faux-complexity. I mean you can literally fit your entire rotation in one button, it's probably just an excuse to keep your GCD permanently rolling, right?
>>583325512Who fucking cares, you're all cancer who literally ruined MMORPGs for the world forever because you couldn't stop bashing your head against Ragnaros
>>583325305like 40-53
Waiter!! I request more gooner slop before I go to bed!!
>>583325648did you reply to the wrong post again? because i don't see what that has to do with what i just said
So, at level 60 what do hunters bring to the raid? They don't have any buff and they deal less dmg than mages, they need to buff the fucking hunter asap to not be just a leveling class, the Trueshot Aura nerf is so fucking stupid
>>5833255872 years
>>583325738every spec will be doing at least 90% of the top dps spec in ForeverHunters bring damage.
>>583325738their pets have everything. mortal strike, silence, disarm, stun, root, ap reduction, thunderclap
>>583325738>So, at level 60 what do hunters bring to the raid?anyone who sees a hunter is naturally alert and watchful for loot ninjas
>>583325729You're gonna listen, one of these days.I've got faith in you so I gotta have faith in that.
>>583325738pets, tranq, trueshot, imp hunters mark
>>583325786That's not happening, you must be the most gullible guy in the world to believe that.>>583325789Other classes do that already, he doesn't bring shit to the raid and they don't even have the tranq shot now
>>583325738Why do you think hunters were brought to raids in classic?Hint: it's not trueshot.
priestchads, are we going holy or disc?
>>583325929blowjobs?
>>583325920>That's not happeningsauce?
>>583325305its pretty smooth until you have to go to feralas or felwood then it becomes aids
>>583325978divine aegis looks weak.deep holy for raids.holy with penance if needed (21/30)
>>583325929Threat is very unlikely to be a gameplay mechanic in this version of wow. They find its too confusing for new players, so tanks just get threat for free now.
>>583325907Pets isn't something useful, trueshot only buffs ranged ap so it only buffs hunters now, tranq drops from MC, hunter mark only buffs ranged ap attacks.
>>583326073>a mechanic all of us have already interacted with totally won't be in the gameI'm not sure if this even counts as bait.
>>58332600322 years of blizzard balancing the game>>583325978Shadow since shamans are better healers.
>>583326073Fighting for threat is already a thing, we don't auto get threat just for existing as a tank.I do want the dps meter to have a threat option too.
>>583326223>22 years of blizzard balancing the gamei don't play retail but i heard the balance is pretty good
>>583326073you know we've all been playing the game for weeks now
>>583326154You won’t be pulling threat from tanks on bosses. It’ll be just like retail. Maybe you’ll pull an add if you crit but as far as tanks gearing specifically for threat generation, that’s never going to happen. Tanks are just going to gear for dps or survivability.
never received a beta code after opting in. thanks blizzard you fucking cocksuckers
>>583325738Have your pet solo the boss
>>583326223resto shamans are totem bots with mid healing and no damage
>>583326307>You won’t be pulling threat from tanks on bossesi certainly won't but the brain damaged mage who doesn't know about aggro mechanics will be
Fucker. Post the thread. Don't worry about if someone posts their own alongside yours and we have to choose which one. We'll just recycle it later
>>583326273nah they still randomy destroy your spec bcuz a dev went to sleep without dilating in retail
>>583326073The right answer is pulling and tranq.Currently we've got no idea what they'll do with tranq. For the importance of pulling, you can look at some naxx speedruns or something.The way players imagine is so fucking boring. Oh this class needs some buff or debuff that forces raids to take them because no one wants to do 5% less damage. Every time.
>>583326249On era, if you had a shit tank you’d actually pull onyxia. DPS had to actually watch their threat meters. It was also like this in tbc. At some point, threat generation stopped being a possibility. You wouldn’t even pull mobs anymore like it was possible but extremely hard, even just one thunderclap was worth like 10 shadow bolts in threat.
>>583326310I paid $40 because I'm not poor. Get owned.
>>583316717>/spit on them at every opportunityexcept you cant kek
>>583326374Oh boy you are in for a world of pain if you really think that, they will be the best healers and by a wide margin if they don't touch anything. t. main healer in every single multiplayer game I played in the last +20 years.
>>583326310They'll send them 5 days before the beta ends. Opt in beta codes just result in fewer people spending $60 so they can't send them too early.
>>583326310>goy fell for the opt in memehahaha now swipe the card
>>583326543When they see that I spit on the ground they know it was meant for them. It's effectively the same thing so it's fine.
>>583317368listened to that ziqo rmt argument and finally realized his way of arguing and logic that he's actually just a little faggot
>>583326619what did he say?
>>583326385I doubt it lol. Do you guys ever pull end game bosses like vancleef off the tank in the beta? It’s not a perfect example of what lvl 60 will be like but I guess it’ll do. I haven’t seen anyone bragging they’re pulling boss threat yet so im just assuming. Like if you’re going way higher than the tank on the threat meter.
>>583317368wow you think asmongoy might be.. le retarded?
Is there an addon that blocks all moonune chat messages?
>>583326459Every raid will include a hunter out of pure obligation because of tranq shot and for pulls, outside of that they are literally useless right now.
>>583325978>>583326062PI is a joke.Holy can get almost all shield buffs as holy.Penance is for tank healing and objectively worse for raids, still you can get it as holy.Renew+pom playstyle will be the way.
>>583315627me and ill be running end game dungeons for multiple sets as druid and it will give me plenty of time to find a proper based guild and enjoy playin other shit in the meantime while i wait patiently
I WILL rush to 60, and then I WILL enjoy slowly gearing up while playing alts too who will enjoy the journey :)
>>583326654he does this thing where he brings up someone talkin in his twitch chat and he was tryin to defend him by saying how is he supposed to know its bought gold since its a level 1 on a beta with almost 300g who came up to him on stream with it.(what if he wants to remain anonymous!)and then after his little gay argument war with a random chatter he goes and says ziqo is an idiot for accepting the gold
>>583326459It was entirely about threat generation. Misdirect was one of the biggest raid dps increasing spells. But you only needed one of them, because taunt wasn’t enough to keep threat at the start of a fight.
we need a new bread
>>583317368>>583326885>says ziqo is an idiot for accepting the golduhmm bros i thought he defended ziqo
>>583326938Misdirection is a TBC ability.
>>583325587Midterms are like the week after release so he will be called up to shill almost immediately. Might have the game open in the background though.
now that the dust has settled, whats the verdict on excavation site: wetlands?
>>583326759prayer of mending is in forever?
>>583327080its one of the holy talents
>>583327080yeah it's the end of the holy tree
>>583327074It's short, mostly really ez, the raptor part is cool though. Overall 6.7/10
>>583326676i'm not grinding deadmines in a month-long beta so i can't tell youi can tell you that threat is very much a mechanic and when i was doing ruins of lordaeron i pulled aggro from trash mobs a few times as healeri play XIV as well and that's actually a game where threat doesn't matter and tanks get it for freeforever is not
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>>583327217Ffxiv threat is just putting tank stance on now because retards couldn't press diversion. You're right that WoWF requires *some* effort but really not that much more.
The group in playing with is leaning towards rolling on RO because it sounds like it'll have the most solid mix of of people that enjoy both equally.I know almost nothing about WoW lore and how the races behave talk etc. I played SWG back then, not WoW.How fucked am I, is chat going to be lame, how much will I cringe?
>>583325738Tranq.Be only hunter.Get funneled all the gear
>>583325305It’s entirely about zones1-10Gay, but Comfy10-20Comfy, easiest part ever.20-30I kind of like the horse side, but hate alliance.30-40Vietnam begins, to me that’s comfy40-50Continued Vietnam. If you like PvP it’s comfy
