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>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app
>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696
>News, dev podcast, dev blogposts
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>When is it being released?
November 4th
You can reserve your first-name + last-name combo starting October 27th.

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde (EU on release)
<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA on release)
<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA on release)

old >>583345450
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I am lmaoing at every last one of you
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cant wait to consume more sylvanas story in wowever
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>>583364431
>tanking
warrior
>world pvp
druid
>bgs with randoms
druid
>bgs with an organized group of good players
warrior
>dps
Warrior when compared to feral
Druid if playing balance
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Bots won
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>>583364594
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Empowered Raids - Got By competing raid/Having a character with full set and doing a quest line for the raids legendary weopon and begins quest to spawn a new world boss.
Master Raids - Got by Hunting a boss that spawns across Azeroth.

Old Raid Gear can be harvested for Materals for reward progression.
Powerful food buffs will require breaking down powerful raid gear.
Some Proffesions will require raid gear to make/upgrade
Player housing-
First patch will add Ranger Class. Specs are Elven Ranger, Dark Ranger, Beast Stalker

New zones have an Extreme Weather system. Cold areas will require you to grind rare furs for cold resistance, with 3 new armor slots for weather gear.
You'll need to refine materials at camps and establish supply routes to ship them back to Stormwind/Orgrimmar.

no NPC towns. Players build towns with Inns, Flight Paths, Portals, vendors, etc., all requiring resources to build and maintain.

New Professions: Survival, Ranching, Carpentry, Research. Player built boats coming. Will require all the proffesions at mastery level to build.
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its over
i'm in
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EU server will be nice because they never care about it so they wont ban for buying gold and boosts, americans in shambles
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Venom is a lame final talent, it's literally just a worse Envenom that gives me little reason to use it outside of having more buff uptime
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>>583364704
Quirky chungus gfs are built like THAT??
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>>583364756
Was the Player Housing rumor true after all?
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>level 300 alchemy recipe lets you put a alchemy table on a campfire, giving you a BOP mongoose and greater arcane elixir with a maximum duration of 2 hours
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>>583360126
we knew this was the case MONTHS ago when they invited these people to the play test. people who have no accomplishments in the raiding community and just level character to 20 in hardcore and die on purpose for youtube views.
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Shaman has had the most uninspiring, and downright illogical changes made to them.
>Resto just got stuff from later expansions, nothing new or interesting.
>Elemental had their iconic capstone taken away because... Aggrend hates shamans? idk
>If you looked at Enhancement without having played WoW before you would think it was a tanking spec, except in reality we know that isn't the case and so instead you have this retarded hybrid spec in a hybrid class (enjoy double hybrid tax)
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>wife just left for work
>servers are down
whelp time for a wank I guess
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>logged in
>stuck on "Retrieving Character List"
well fuck
see you in two hours
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>>583364704
10/10 in muttland
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I love my Horde but I'm rolling Alliance at launch. My reasoning? Two words: Thousand Needles. I fucking hate that place so much that I refuse to spend my precious time there.
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>>583364836
yes. It's gonna be an improved version of the retail system that is actually integrated into the world requiring actual space and socio dynamics to control plots and materials.
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Enjoying forever my little customer?
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>>583364745
>fire all the trannies
>they get replaced by jeets
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Doomerxisters...don't open this...
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>>583364943
that's what you guys wanted
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>just finish clearing to dragonspawn in wetlands
>accidentally aggro one of thr 62 elite red dragonspawn
>chased to Narnia
>servers die before it leashes
Fukkin RIP
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who has better druid racials, tauren or night elf?
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game is fucking dead

only a 12k queue on a server that shared by everyone including china
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>>583364936
>requiring actual space

NeoBlizz would never
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I hate paladins
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>>583364958
Still queues on Realmless? Hopefully this ain't the case for the true launch. Don't wanna waste day one stuck in a queue.
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What is the EXP like for a 5 man group grinding mobs in the open world? I can't find anything about this. Lust provoking image for engagement.
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>>583365018
It's a $60 beta, most people are waiting for release
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I'm back in the game
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>>583364984
It's an improvement
Next best thing would be AI takeover
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>>583364995
I would say that tauren racials are much better for tanking. Outside of that its whatever, night elf maybe better for feral dps and fem elf are cute.
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>>583365101
fastest way to level grinding hyperspawns
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>>583364939
blisaaard
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>quest in Tarren's Mill
>not a single pvp moment happens
>no fights at all
>alliance groups just run past me
you faggots lied to me
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>>583365230
Hyperspawns are honestly really nice if youre a class with good sustain.
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>auction house disabled
>reverted free respecs
brother what are they doing
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>>583365105
i got in for the price of a big mac
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Just remembered the Kino of Classic race to level 60. Hopefully Forever's will be just as good.
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shadowbunni bros she's showing skin today
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>>583364943
At least they are men so they know what men like in games.
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>camping rare spawn last night
>get tired
>decide to lay down, addon might wake me if it spawns
>wake up 4 hours later
>not logged out
>character not even flagged afk
Wtf
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>>583365281
they know the rules, attack one horde and a dozen more show up out of nowhere
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Wetlands fucking sucks. No changes.
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>>583365281
Maybe don't listen to retailers who don't even have PvP in their game, and screech and cry when anyone suggests removing flying so there can be PvP
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>>583365351
so $60?
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>>583364884
Shamans have the privilege of being a totem bitch whom people beg to join their groups, which is why all other facets of shamans got nerfed.
If they make totems raidwide, then you can have fun tools again but aren't guaranteed to get a raid spot.
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>>583365401
SAAAR we know that men love biryani and cow shit
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>>583365467
7
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>>583365438
Theres a fuckload of changes the zone is just gigantic. Its a wide Barrens.
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>>583365281
world pvp has always been in people's imaginations. it's fun to fantasize about spontaneous battles out in the world but it never actually happens. only rogues ganking people 20 levels below them or death ball raids sitting outside of dungeon portals
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I will never look at jeets in a favorable light, regardless of any whataboutisms people attempt. Simple as.
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hewwooo?? ;3
may i enter pwes ;333
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>>583364692
5/5 in lingering rage
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>>583365532
nah bro youre wrong and heres why:
>memory from 2005 i only vaguely remember and embellish the details
youre just coping bro
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>>583365554
are there even any favorable whataboutisms for jeets? they're as low as it gets
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>>583365532
A hunter tried to kill me yesterday. I killed him instad. Was fun.
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>>583365532
Ignore this faggot. Hes a doomposting retoilet refugee whos bussy quivered when warmode was implemented because it meant hes never have to pvp against his will ever again.
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Troll Male x Night Elf Female
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>>583365496
Pajeets will make Thunder Bluff great again.
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>>583365101
You can look at the formula for it here https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Mob_experience#Group_Experience

tldr is that it multiplies the exp for the mob based on the number of members in the group divided by the number of people in the group for a five man group it would be EXP/5*1.4, it's faster if areas are overcrowded and you can find a quiet corner to grind in, otherwise continually just chaining quests is better
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>"BRO 1% MORE CHANCE TO HIT IS SO HUGE"
??
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>>583365429
you pc is compromised and part of a botnet
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Troll or UD for Arcane Mage? Strictly for PvE stuff.
Berserking speed boost sounds good to pump, but the Undead damage/healing racial is just a flat dps boost.
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>>583365719
I used to jerk off to this fapfic of a male troll and his female blood elf gf kidnapping a night elf and mutually raping her
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>>583365018
That means there’s already millions of players in.
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you would neeeeever say that shit to an orc's face lil gnome boi
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>>583365769
The base chance to miss against equal level is 8% or something. 1% in that context is a lot.
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>>583365852
same, but it was two homies orc and troll capturing a gnome (male) spy
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After playing shaman for the first time instead of a dedicated clothie or non hybrid. I finally understand the desire to roll on everything.
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>>583365719
yes
https://litter.catbox.moe/oabgk1.mp4
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They should've put a horde quest hub here accessible via rowboat from Silverpine.
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the way heroic strike works makes me cringe
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>>583365532
this never happens every encounter on a pvp realm is an honorable 1v1 duel between equally leveled opponents and any lowbie that is ganked is immediately defended by every member of their faction, level 60s will fly from halfway across the world to defend some random level 15 that's being corpse camped, this happens every single time without fail and anyone that says otherwise is lying and scared of pvp (which is always honorable and evenly matched)
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>>583365401
>>583365496
The improvement would be that indians don't think for themselves, they are systematic slaves that have no real ambition other than getting paid and work less when possible.
With ruthless supervision, they can be trained to be quite efficient. They need a fucking whip cracking on their backs
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>>583365971
you don't know how it works
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Would you be happy if Blizzard said fuck it and let you keep beta progress?
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>>583366049
FUUUUUUUCK NOOOOOOO
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>>583366049
no
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>>583366049
Yeah, but wipe the gold.
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>>583366049
No, it would be retarded for an extensive list of reasons
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>>583366049
No that would be retarded
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>>583366049
fuck that
if anything I wish they wiped 2 days ago, it's a beta throw that shit in the trash
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>>583365970
Horde should fuck off back to outland
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Why did they bother giving alliance warlock if every horde race hard counter it?
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>>583365469
I rolled shaman for the raid spot lock in so if totems are raidwide I guess ill just go back to priest. But even then they are also boring and I quit wow because I was forced to go disc mid WotLK and hated everything.
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>>583366049
no
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apparently release version is gonna have almost everything from 1-30 overhauled
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>>583365845
Undead will probably scale worse once we get to 60 and get tier set though cannibalize will be good for dungeons, berserking doesn't lower gcd so it gets a bit wasted if you're spamming ice lance. orc is looking like the best pve for now.
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>>583366158
Half of the horde races are native to Azeroth, only one of the alliance races is native to Azeroth.
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jeet means victory
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>>583366181
>warlock is an evil class
>good faction is the worst at being evil
Sounds lore accurate to me
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>>583366049
No but they should just end the beta and launch it at this point, the honeymoon period has worn off and it's obvious the changes they're making are unpopular and the devs have no idea what they're doing, we're a month off of launch there's no significant changes they can make at this point just balancing which has never even once been good so it's not like it makes a difference so just pull off the bandaid and let people play while the hype is still there
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>>583366252
apparently you're a faggot
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>>583366158
You are on stolen land
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>>583365054
login server will have a queue first week at least
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>>583366049
fuck no
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>>583366158
What you gonna do about it, gay boy? Run to town and hope someone aggroes the guards? Pussy
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>>583366310
trolls belong in reservations
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Gonna play Murloc RPG and pretend I got into the beta and have exclusive access to the Murloc class.
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>>583366302
apparently, I am horizontal progressing hard stool out of my sphincter
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>>583366049
Yes. It would make the launch of the game way comfier. Leveling will be horrible as is because everyone will compete for the same objectives.
If they let beta progress exist it will lessen this problem to some extent and will drive suction house prices lower which is good for new players.
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>>583366332
You can't just call everything you dislike as 'retail' thinking you have won the argument.
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>>583366424
you couldnt afford beta?
what are you doing with your money wtf
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>>583366340
It's going to be fine if the servers are split to NA and EU. The whole world is now playing on a standard NA server.
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>>583366261
>half
if you're going to count undead as foreign then you have to count humans, dwarves, and gnomes because they're invasive titan species
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>>583366535
Spending it on stupid things like bills and shit
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>>583366512
He actually can though.
Retail lore is that retarded.
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>>583366332
This is all established in Wrath of the Lich King, the capstone of the Classic Trilogy.
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What did blizzard mean by this?
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>>583366261
All original alliance races are native to azeroth, humans are just deformed vrykul which are natives, night elves are evolved trolls which are natives, dwarves and gnomes are both created races BUT those races were created from materials on azeroth they didn't fly them in from other planets they used native materials and if that counts as not native then you have to not count undead since the plague was all just the plot of alien demons
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>>583366261
Which one is the native to Azeroth race on alliance?
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>>583366607
;/
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im gonna pooooooomp
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best part of playing on NA servers from EU is that when they sleep im waking up, so im free to just blast without interference
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>developing classes for streamers that will drop the game as soon as a new fotmslop drops
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which dual gathering profession combo do you expect to be most profitable on launch
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>>583366680
Night Elves. Humans, Dwarves and Gnomes are alien robots.
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i'm about to unga
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>>583366424
With all the time you spent whining here you could've earned enough for new pc AND beta.
Lmaoing@ur life rn ong
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>>583366672
That's Elune's butthole
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casting a spell
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>>583366757
How? Night Elves are mutated Trolls or something I believe but where did the rest come from
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what story beats from retail would you like to see in forever?
Id like if we could burn teldrassil again
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>>583366761
Hope ya mean tazdingo mon
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>>583366831
Trolls are native to Azeroth, and Night Elves are Trolls.
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zamn...
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>>583366845
I only want gameplay features from retail not the story
>dungeon finder
>personal loot
>flying
>housing
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>>583366729
You don't understand we NEED seal twisting and we NEED melee weaving streamers won't play the game otherwise and we can't get their audience money!!!
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>>583366923
Kill yourself asap
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>>583366845
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>>583366928
>original vanilla mechanics are actually streamer shit

outing yourself as a retail special needs kid
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>>583366729
>he really thinks twitch shitskins have any input in how classes play
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>>583366049
No, because I'm not a fucking retard.
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>>583366845
I want a proper ending to the staff of elune quest but I doubt they'll do that they'll probably keep adding new slop with loose ends instead of tying up old ones
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im enjoying leveling way too much and am now worried that Cat Druid is gonna be shit at 30/60
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>>583366923
>flying
flying ruins mmos
just look at ffxiv zones post flying and compare it preflying
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>>583367016
holy aura that guy is cooler than any classhit character you can just tell
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>>583365929
That's not a lot.
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>>583367052
I really fuckin hope they don't and they're just using them for publicity
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>>583366686
newfags obsessing over gear that gets replaced in an hour in the real game is the funniest thing about this beta
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>>583367106
So what's the issue I don't play ffxiv. I just want to fly because it's cool and makes things more convenient
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>>583365961
lol, that was the one I was thinking of, that animator does good work
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>>583366923
Retail is that way
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>>583367141
based retard
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>>583367045
Seal twisting developed during classic you can use your internet to search before classics launch and notice that it wasn't ever mentioned even once! you won't because you're a facetious little faggot but this "emergent gameplay" is shit pushed by streamers and no one else
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>>583366845
Kul'tiras and Zandalar, but that would require a tremendous amount of work to make them Standard Definition so I doubt they'd do it.
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>>583365769
vs bosses it's 9% for physical and 16% for spellcasters
hit is the most overpowered stat in the game for pve
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>>583366923
Nice bait
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>>583367052
>Esfand says he isn’t gonna play the game unless they add seal twisting
>they give paladin the sucky sucky 5000 treatment
>every fucking shiny new toy and tool in the game except a kick
>the oversized Americanized jeet still complains that seal twisting isn’t good and is also campaigning for rebuke
Truly remarkable to me that he gets le wholesome Reddit chungus status while being one of the most insufferable, two-faced bitches in the space.
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>>583367045
>original vanilla mechanics
>a bug due to server latency that was only discovered in the 2019 re-release
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>>583367201
Browns get upset because 90% of the playerbase is AFK in Stormwind or Orgrimmar in the sky instead of on land.
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For those of you that have trouble mastering the in and out art of breathing, if someone suggests adding most or all of the major features currently in retail, they are baiting you
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>>583367260
no, they must exert effort and make a completely original kul'tiras
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I believe that more elf class combinations will come
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>>583367068
i've read something about dataminers finding effects in the game relating to the staff of elune, it might be the first new legendary
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>>583367193
A good weapon can last you 10 levels sometimes.
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>>583366923
>>>/wowg/
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>>583367201
>makes things more convenient
And that's why you should kill yourself
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we need the haranir and vulpera in forever
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ngl im kinda burnt out of wow already
i shouldnt have leveled like 6 characters on the beta
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Yall do realize none of these recipes and other added leveling content actually matter at all right? When the game drops you will forego the “journey” to try and keep up, skipping nearly every facet of the game intended to spark interest or joy in service of maximizing exp gains so you don’t fall behind. You won’t even touch professions. You won’t go into WC a second time to finish deviate hides. You will interact with as little as you can on your way to 60 because ultimately none of it matters until you’re there.
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they need to change the looting animation into a raping animation
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>>583367354
They don't need to make a completely new version, just swapping the ground textures for ones that already exist in classic would cover most of it, but then they need to remodel all of the buildings and trees and rocks and furniture and so on.
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>>583367337
>>583367239
he's going to uhm actually you because seal twisting was discovered in tbc actually but fixed because it was unintentional at the time, it was not a vanilla mechanic though he just wants to suck off a streamer in his gay fantasies
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>>583367556
Im genuinely in no hurry to get to 60 as fast as possible
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>game lags when turning the camera
well this is new
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You know we will get more retail features as time goes on right
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>>583367551
>shartshart
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>>583367052
Xaryu and soda were literally on a dev podcast
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>>583367316
I wouldn't mind "Seal Twisting" if it was like the sodomy alternate version they did where you could just stack seals.
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>>583367551
get a refund and quit, once forever gets released you won't even last a month because you're incapable of any self control.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2G-O0X3xGQ
are you joining?
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>>583367636
Yeah you’re full of shit and you know it
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>>583367792
Nope, sorry doomjeet
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>>583367556
>Yall
faggot
>You won’t even touch professions
ore and herbs are more abundant now unless you're going out of your way to avoid nodes you'll level just fine, especially since they made recipes stay orange for longer
>You won’t go into WC a second time to finish deviate hides
Yes because of the exp nerf which is universally unpopular with everyone who actually plays the game and doesn't want to simulate retails M+ skipping
>You will interact with as little as you can on your way to 60
nonsensical statement, what do you mean by "as little as you can" do you mean using a guide? because most people won't use one on launch because it won't be published

are you perhaps retarded or otherwise mentally impaired?
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>blue elfland is possibly on the same side of the planet as the "Arathi Empire" from The War Within
Oh no.
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>>583367790
Nah I'll join Olympus Incel
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>>583366831
Trolls are a native species to Azeroth, meaning all forms Elves that descend from them are also technically native. Humans, Dwarves and Gnomes are Titan constructs that were affected by the curse of flesh
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>>583367652
Yes it’s turning out to be a complete and total disaster. Game will be DOA at this rate, unless they do a complete overhaul. The scope of the project was a complete abortion of a scope. They were after the mentally challenged wowtard audience and they’ve scored xugely. Blizzcattle will eat whatever they’re served and ask for seconds. They don’t have real brains like other people do, they’re more like retards. Barely human if you play this seriously, it’s going to be DOA.
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>rogues are the highest single target dps
So on any boss that doesn't have extra mobs or weird mechanics and a rogue in your group that isn't #1 on the dps charts hes trash?
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>>583367896
isnt blue elfland in skywall?
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>>583367896
>>583367972
nevermind i didnt read the full sentence oopsie
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The best thing about the doomers is that them reading from the same script makes them easy to filter
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>>583367896
elfland is an island from ferales that went into elemental plane of air
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>>583367972
It is yes
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Priests should be able to wear mail armor
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uuuuuh ooooooh
you flew too close to the suuuuuuuuuuun, girls

uuuuuh ooooooh
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professions... good?
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I have stopped playing the beta
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>>583367896
The skywall is the dividing barrier technically not the other side of the planet, either way it's very obvious that retail is going to soft reboot after TLT by going to Arathi and having a clean start while still keeping old content accessible and contained to the old world, this has all been known since blizzcon
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>>583367870
>ore and herbs
Gathering =/= “doing professions” you disingenuous nigger. You aren’t stopping leveling for multiple hours to get all of your mats and farm gold and get recipes for twink gear. Stop it.
>2nd point literally agrees with me
Good work third worlder
>he doesn’t know RXP already has a fully updated guide
>he’s choosing to miss the point on what “interacting with the game” means while leveling
Yeah, you’re going to focus only on exp and getting as much of it as you can instead of running 5 dungeons for 2% move speed in westfall
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>>583366686
Lemme Balance bear that Toxic Revenger real quick...
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>>583367790
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>>583367403
the level 10 craftable boots and belts you can make on any crafting profession the first hour into the game can easily last you into your 30s provided you get unlucky dungeon drops (if you even do them at launch)
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>>583368118
They're letting you transmog any kind of gear on any class in retail
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>DANISH GUILD <BJORK LORK DORF> EU IS LOOKING FOR MORE EXPERIENCED PLAYERS. 40 MAN RAIDS. LGBTQ FRIENDLY. NO HATE. JUST FUN. ALL WELCOME. DANISH ONLY. PST

Yfw
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It definitely existed during actual tbc and probably vanilla too. I have no idea why you're even talking about considering seal twisting does not exist in forever and no that shitty talent is not it.
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>>583368128
>t. anon sliding into beddybies
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>>583368128
can i have your account?
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Will shaman be fun? It's really painful at level 14 so far.
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how many years of your life have you sacrificed to azeroth anon?
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>>583367972
Skywall is in the air above Azeroth, like how Deepholm is underground Azeorth and the Abyssal Maw is underwater. Not sure where the Firelands are.
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>>583368192
Sounds chill desu
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>>583367896
it's in a separate plane of existence like the firelands
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>>583367954
if they comply with every complaint in reddit, yeah it's dead in 6 months to 1 year, but the thing is that this project is supposed to bring in revenue and has active development so it won't be the absolute garbage like TBC anniversary is, holy shit that was bad
they will have data about everything so if players start to drop out in numbers they can easily analyze it
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>>583367551
Shut the fuck up sillu
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>>583368190
I meant statwise but that's cool. Maybe I'll play retail as well when Forever launches. Just something comfy on the side.
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>>583368120
It's too bad the higher level ones all are dungeon drops that are already outpaced
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>>583368216
>>583367337
>>583367239
I mean to tag <you>
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you will never be allowed to have fun. they will always bait you then take all the fun away. no refunds by the way.
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>>583368120
You should be able to craft t3 armor at lvl 35 tailoring so mentally challenged people who won’t make it to level 60 can experience the joy too. It’s too much of an inner circle style raiding experience currently. And, my ego is experiencing devastating impacts to my pride too. I feel genuine shame that I can’t compete. Blizz needs to provide an inclusive atmosphere to the mentally handicapped, which makes up most of their paying subscribers.
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>>583368265
skywall, deepholm, abyssal maw and firelands are all pocket dimensions made by the titans
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>>583368057
but thats non-canon forever lore
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>>583368147
>multiple hours to get all of your mats and farm gold and get recipes for twink gear
I didn't say you would? You will get the ore or herbs and you will smelt them in town or make potions and use the ones that are useful and keep on level it's very easy to do right now with zero additional effort you can have a full crafted set every time you go back to train
>>2nd point literally agrees with me
Yeah I didn't say I disagreed, so what is your point exactly?
>>he doesn’t know RXP already has a fully updated guide
Level 60 isn't out yet their guide means nothing if it only covers half

So are you retarded? You certain seem to be mad, lead and/or black mold exposure in your shithole or perhaps the shit fumes wafting in from the street outside?
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How does it feel to be a warlock minding your own business out in the world and someone attacks you only to be Death Coiled, Feared, and dotted up for an easy win? How many of you have made this mistake against a warlock before?
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>>583368289
Read nigga, they were islands from Azeroth that got lifted into Skywall.
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>>583368404
It's canon to Forever, which is the thread you're in.
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>>583367790
I hope she gets the most painful, incurable form of aggressive illness possible
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Pvp is for retards
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>>583368371
what are these posts
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>>583368416
I play horde so this isn't a concern
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>>583367657
>soo good players are quitting
i mean yeah. game is really fun, i myself am getting attached to a character that will no longer exist after release, no reason to burnout before that.
so i'll just make new characters instead of capping them
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>>583368180
That's sovl unironically.
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>>583368416
>locks post their revenge fantasies here between death timers while being camped
sad!
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>>583368409
>he doesn’t know what data mining is
Holy bleak
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What happens If I don't stay away from the voodoo, mon?
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>>583367556
Yes. The game starts at 60. I will pick 2 gathering professions while leveling to make as much gold as possible. I will exploit whatever is exploitable before it gets patched. I will leave you scrubs in the dust.
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>>583368128
Same, no point spending time on toon that gets deleted
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>>583368490
An alliance of any class/spec never tries to jump a warlock?
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>>583368416
feel pretty nice
until lvl60 where they can trinket the coil and interrupt your fear, then you're free food for every class
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>>583368409
the guide does go to 60, but it uses classic/anni for the 30>60 which is perfectly fine till they add in the new quests and update it, its still ridic fast to hit 60 with
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>>583368587
ya gonna git tazdingo'ed, mon
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>>583368584
I accept that you had no point to begin with, it's okay to lose ranjeet
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>>583368587
you start listening to voices and concede the warchief mantle to retarded foids
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>>583368217
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>>583368371
Me when I am of sound and stable mind and a crafting profession lets me craft a belt
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>>583365532
https://files.catbox.moe/xa43ef.webm
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>>583368263
Not enough
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>>583368641
horde racials counter locks it's why no one on alliance plays them on pvp servers
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>>583368587
You eventually wake up sandwiched between 2 femtrolls, missing an unspecified organ, but sent on your way with a meal and a protective fetish.
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>>583368293
Looking at any of the new items just seems like they’re totally catering to the mentally challenged, paraplegics, people with degenerative brain disorders, handicapped people in wheelchairs, low IQ people. Thats what those item tooltips mean to me. It’s extremely offensive. As an RPG veteran who played most RPG games, this isn’t an MMORPG. This is an MMO, except your peers are all handicapped and it’s more like second life for the autistic group of people. Chats going to actually be sad. Just genuine pity reading, they don’t even know they’re tarded they just think it’s normal.
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Tom Ellis fired. Ziqo banned. Troons and gay furries on suicide watch.
Chuds win... FOREVER.
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>SO MUCH HECKIN FLAVOUR!
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dont open wowhead
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Ok ok they got all their paypig pre-orders already, so where are the free keys.
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>>583368941
Why didn't I listen
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>>583368701
i love this so much. i love watching horde filth go in the ground where they belong. people who play horde are filthy little weaklings.
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>>583368913
I wonder if people that make posts like these even actually feel anger anymore or just type this in more out of habit than with any higher brain input
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i thought you guys wanted mmo SOVL in your classic+? now sovl is bad?
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Blizzard’s total lack of an answer on anything related to Asmon is getting hard to ignore. Which is it?
>not tipping their hand, letting him sell as many copies as possible before banning
>they don’t care and will let him ruin NA alliance
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>>583368394
The blue elf islands are falling out of the Skywall.
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Why are doomers pretending that gear in vanilla/classic+ is as easily replaceable as it is in later iterations of the game? Staff of Westfall very well could be your best caster weapon for 20 levels unless you get lucky and win either the Emberstone Staff in Deadmines or Rod of the Sleepwalker in BFD which is not guaranteed as it's highly unlikely you will be the only spellcaster in the party.
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>>583369065
they dont care because they know he will quit in a month
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>>583369051
it's all forced soul
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>>583369065
>BLIZZARD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NAZI
No
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>>583369065
neither
if things go out of hand, they'll intercede, but won't ban
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>the absolute STATE of Sally's appearance in the new WC3 Refunded dlc
holy fuck
if they fuck her up in wow forever too im going to build a diy nuke using thousands of smoke detectors i collect from running a beep fixing service for negroes then wheel it into blizz hq while looking like a literal wc3 ghoul from all the radiation exposure in making it then detonate it...
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>spend 8 hours casting holy fire
>no damage
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>>583369065
whatever happens he wins because it will show that blizzard are assholes and must be destroyed. he is very based for backing them into a corner like this. fuck em. i hope they all get fired and the ip gets the sweaty neckbearded cheetoh-dust gamer devs it deserves!
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>>583368941
>>583369036
QRD?
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>>583369065
the reason he didnt go live yesterday was because he was recording the next forever podcast with the devs
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>>583369134
they don't fucking play the game
the answer is always they don't play the game
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>>583364939
> Here's your trillion dollar AI
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Forever should do collabs with other games like Minecraft. Imagine a diamond sword that would be so kino
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battle shout should be a 60 minute duration
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>>583364692
me when i pop bm
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>>583368731
It fucking sucks because warlock is the only class I want to play and I don’t want to go horde.
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This is the first new MMO made by a credible company we’ve had in literally 13 years. But they fucked it up xugely and put too much aids stuff like gay encouragement and easy content. You haven’t seen even one decent post about in game from anyone on the beta, because none of them have any interesting stories to share. Blizz is a complete abortion of a game design company. The only good thing they’re doing is art pictures these days. This games just a total abortion overall. Every single thing is an abortion. It’s totally the biggest fail game this century. Just an absolute disgrace, im so fucking offended that they’re trying to sell this after shutting down ascension which was literally better than forever. Imagine being shown up by some random group of vietnamese programmers. Just a complete abortion of a company, totally the biggest DOA game that only retards will be playing.
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>>583369249
Yeah but it fucking pisses me off, I hate when retards mouth off about shit they don't know about.
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>>583369287
Elder Scrolls crossover that introduces a new Warrior spec called the Dragonborn that empowers your shouts, the capstone talent is Fus Ro Dah.
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>>583369206
Everyone will go to RP servers away from e-celeb niggers and their golems.
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>>583369197
No holy for you
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>>583369134
Reminder that these same doomers are bemoaning their terrible fate that with dungeon quest exp going from a 4.3x modifier to a 2.6. modifier to make up for reduced kill exp, there is ZERO POINT TO EVER TOUCHING A DUNGEON, ever.
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>>583369379
AI concerntrolling
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>>583369175
I would wager it’s out of hand. I mostly agree with his politics and have decided to go horde because the entirety of the alliance is literally just the Olympus show right now. It’s only gonna get worse when we move away from a global beta to NA exclusive and the $60 barrier goes away. Shit it’s so fucking obnoxious.
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>play priest way way way back in the day, haven't played wow since
>this time around i decide to try the other classes
>get a few to 20, kinda fun but none of them really click
>decide to try priest again
>enjoying it 10x any other class
Well.. fuck, I guess im a priest main for life
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>>583368645
Sometimes trinkets are down. Also you can bait kick. Also not everyone has kick. Also warlocks are broken and will probably win anyway if you aren't terrible. Warlocks are known for being one of the best 2v1 classes so why are you assuming you auto lose if your death coil gets trinketed?
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recklessness should be a 1 minute cooldown just let me pump
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>>583369457
I'm pretty sure 90% of his followers are pajeets.
Only one race has that kind of subservience
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>>583369483
bro you're not even getting a raid spot lmao
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>>583369134
I'm still using the Staff of Westfall because these NIGGERBOARS in razorfen kraul refuse to drop any weapons
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>>583369391
The main downside of anonymous posting is the lack of any accountability for what you post gives people more than enough to be disingenuous more often than not
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>>583369430
hello fbi? this is a crizzle

>>583369417
yes well all the smart people were always going to go to rp servers because they are where the real gamers go, that's where the most fun is, and those are the only servers that last. look at retail. all the servers are gay except the rp ones which are somehow the least gay while being the most gay. duh. DUH
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>>583369042
Its just begging for attention. Theyre chasing a dopamine hit by getting a (You)
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so what will the "BIG PVMPERS ONLY" raid setup look like
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>>583369287
>>583369403
Isekai Gamer class that incorporates skills from different video game characters would be mega sovlkino.
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>>583369581
warriors are confirmed top dps by 20%
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Rest in peace nate higger
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Our guild's browns are already told to either reroll a fuck off. We will have a max of 2 fury warriors for 40 man and only 1 for 20 man.
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>>583368701
average player is so fucking ass
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>>583369725
imagine jumping on people's heads is how you dps
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>1 tick of penance heals you to full
kek this shit better get nerfed
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>>583369134
Staff of Westfall is a shit item. It has 5 stats and is easily replaced with big bronze knife and any offhand that has 2/1. Staff of Westfall is a warrior weapon you complete abortion of a poster. It’s literally a cleverly disguised warrior weapon, it’s DPS is incredibly high it’s higher than smites hammer.
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>>583369765
your guild will not defeat the ghost of archimonde boss
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>>583369715
Same as it’s always been 30 warriors with more rogues in the mix depending on how much cleave is present. Nothing will ever outscale raid buffed melee dps in this game. And the rest of the raid will be shamans/paladins.
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>>583369715
80% warriors again
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>>583369882
>penance without atonement
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>>583369042
FLAAVOURRRRR
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>>583369715
>create the perfectly optimized comp in t1 that stacks rogues for massive single-target dps
>t2 is full of cleave beast bosses so everyone has to reroll dwarf/troll warrior
metafags aren't going to like this game
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>>583369964
vampiric embrace is right there
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>>583369457
I don't know what's so out of hand. He isn't really taking over, he's bringing on people that wouldn't have touched the beta otherwise.
He's the best marketing tool that blizzard has had in the last 10 years. Banning him would be astronomically retarded from blizz's part. They realized baning people for dumb names was a retarded thing and walked it back.
It has nothing to do with politics, despite what a handful of twitter trannies would lead you to believe.
I quit during SL and came back for this. After he quit XIV, I kinda stopped watching asmon during his gaming segments. But I watched a couple of his Forever streams and got the itch back for wow.
I'm not touching Retail unless they give me a free upgrade
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>>583369882
It's so mana efficient too
I'm sure that Holy will end up being stronger in the long run just because of Prayer of Mending but right now they're completely mogged
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>>583370012
>he doesn't just have more than 1 character
Come on
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>>583369882
>priest is the best healer by far
who could've seen this coming
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people still to this day do not understand that real wpvp is a game of attrition and priest is literally built to resist attrition so blizzard will always have to nerf priest because it's just too easy.
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>>583370067
>It has nothing to do with politics, despite what a handful of twitter trannies would lead you to believe.
Same, I just don't care about watching a person read their twitter for 8 hours. I watched him pretty frequently when he mostly just played games
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>>583369897
nta but have you considered that melee is actually a thing you do in vanilla as a caster even
gotta bind /startattack to every spell
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>>583370095
Clearly those are asylum seeking goblins
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>>583369897
Why the fuck would a caster ever replace SoW with a knife that only has stam on it and a caster offhand? No caster offhand in that level range has +5 int on it The spirit alone justifies using it on any caster that isn't a warlock and a warlock will use it anyways. There's also the fact that I never said it was a good weapon you stupid fuck, just that it's a weapon you'd unlikely to find a replacement for unless you get lucky with dungeon drops and rolls.
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>>583370067
Do you actually read twitter and watch streamers dude because that’s actually a total abortion of a post. Just a complete abortion dude. Are you mentally challenged? Did you ride the short bus in school. How high is your IQ? I wish abortions would stay in their containment zones.
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>>583367260
zandalar would be peak.
no matter how shit the expansion was mechanicswise, I liked the leveling experience and the first 2 raid tiers.
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>>583369467
Ok nice blog post sissy
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>>583370216
afflic warlocks are great too, though you can't heal others, your own healthbar and thus mana bar is a completely solved issue. Your GCD is the only limit.
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>>583364594
PvP Alliance or Horde? Asmon layer vs trannies and lgbt?
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>>583370312
holy shit seethe more
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>>583370067
Most importantly he hasn't broken any rules. I think he streamers should be held accountable the same as every other player. If he does something in game to warrant a ban then sure go ahead and ban him, just make sure that every player is treated the same way.
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>>583370295
They're not goblins.
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why are pvers so expressive about pvp servers? could it be they know it deep inside they should be playing on one but dont have the stones to handle it?

also it's relatively easy to dodge pvp on a pvp server if you want to, especially with layering on. literally just avoid the most mainstream notorious regions like stv and if it's too much just relog on an alt which is diff level at diff zone. imagine crying about pvp in current year
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>>583370227
They don’t melee once they get a wand
>>583370307
Stam is a much better stat. INT doesn’t actually make you drink less without reaching evocation break points. I guess it’s a good priest staff, but other casters would definitely prefer 6 INT/stam over 5 INT. Stam increases wand dps and is a much higher paying stat at lower levels, it’s literally worth like 4 points of INT per stam technically it’s actually weighted pretty crazy like that.
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>>583370462
yeah, as long as he doesn't break tos, he'll be alright, if blizz remains imparcial of course
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>>583370312
>dude do you reed twitter? havent you seen my seethepost?
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>>583370540
Post a screenshot of your character standing over an enemy corpse, or fuck off as a non-player shitting up the thread, bot.
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>>583370481
Ahh sorry they are clearly no different from the citizens that have been there for generations.
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>>583364714
I want to suck Sylvanas' toes
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>>583364692
Is the joke with Alex that he actually has some sort of learning disability? I watched his anti-skyborne video and he lied or acted confused the entire time.
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>>583369467
Based gigachad healer
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You think you want RPPvP, but you don't.
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>>583364714
>wowever
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>>583370663
Yes. They literally are the citizens. The quest has you take magical drugs and murder everyone in Water's Edge, you're hallucinating them as goblins.
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>>583370660
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>>583370554
>Stam increases wand dps
?
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>>583369134
its less thats its replaceable, its more that it doesnt make any substantial difference so its better to just skip it and get better later quicker
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>>583370724
I kinda want it but I'm also ok with not splitting the RP community
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Test time /wowfg/!
You are in a questing area doing a quest that involves picking up items off the ground. You start to approach one but notice another player on your faction is currently fighting a mob or two right next to the item, making it very likely they are trying to loot that as well.
Do you:
>Take advantage of their distraction and loot the quest item
>Leave that item to them and look elsewhere/Help them
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>class that can't buff me expects me to buff them
>sends an angry message when I ignore them asking for my buff
not my problem you're a rogue. maybe give me kings or fort and ill buff you too
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>>583370540
always thought warpcore stabs are fucking useless
>hurr durr +2 when everyone's running faction scram
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>"OMG!!! THIS GAME IS SO HECKIN AMAZEBALLS!!! I LOVE ALL THE NEW GIMMICK ITEMS!!!!! BLIZZARD IS BACK!"
>*game releases*
>*quits at level 45*
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>>583370724
We definitely do. It makes the world dynamic. Can actually RP having patrols which mean something.
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>>583370540
why are you making your 3rd seethe post over a post made last thread? dont have the stones to handle someone else not agreeing with you?
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>>583370791
Just a complete abortion of a reply. You should’ve actually been aborted because I would be much happier that way.
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>>583370762
>killing innocent horde transfolx
this is the type of evil nazi asmongold brings to the game
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>>583370812
>Watch them kill the mob
>See if they loot the item
>They don't
>Loot it myself
>Get told to kill myself for stealing their items anyway
This actually happened to me yesterday doing the redridge quest with the org weapons/crates.
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>>583370724
I played 2019 classic on RPPvP and it was fun. There wasn't all that much RPing though.
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>>583370910
That's 30 more levels than Asmongold fans typically put in.
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>>583370462
>accepts the “be nice” social contract when logging in
>makes a virtual KKK
>this is not against the rules
The intelligence of an asmonigger on full display
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>>583369561
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*makes shit up to get angry about*
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how is every frogpost complete garbage, no matter the thread or board, always dogshit 100% of the time, how is the phenomenon so consistent
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>>583370216
I see people asking for tick drinking back. They've never dueled a priest.
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>>583370762
I respect your blood-earned right to shit up this thread, then.
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>>583370910
it takes the entire length of an average video game to get to level 20 so 45 is pretty good
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Can a skyelf fag help me out here? I want to see if the transmog from the rep vendor in the noob area is worth it. Some of them look nice but those are for the lower rep. Are the higher rep gear just different colors?
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>>583370949
How the fuck does stam have a direct increase on wand dps you fucking troglodyte, the only thing I could potentially think of is stamina = more survivability which lets you wand more but that's a generalization that can apply to every class.
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>>583371014
>There wasn't all that much RPing though.
Did you join a guild for it? Mine ran three events a week, it was fun as shit
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>>583371050
Ive noticed this has become a lot more common in recent years and I dont understand it
Isn't there enough things out in the world to be upset about that are actually real, why invent more in your head
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>>583371187
Hes baiting you
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>>583370941
the fuck are you on about
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ngl i might not play on launch i always ruin everything for myself why did i overplay the beta and ruin it for myself
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>>583370910
The game will be good at 60 because it’s very hard to abort pvp and raids. Thats like all they know how to do anymore. Leveling overworld is an art and takes tons of mescaline and peyote in the woods to meditate on xp rate efficiency and constructive mob placement plus challenging delves and dopamine reward systems. Era did it, you all played it you know era did it differently. Era devs had a very close relationship with life and death. They were communicating with aliens. Era did it already. Era knew all the things and decided on more skyscrapers filled up with anal slaves. Thanks era.
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>>583371050
It's honestly insane. I don't know how people live like this, lmao.
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Is the Roach King even playing on release day?
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>>583371260
it seems like you're the common denominator here. you just don't have all the information, and people aren't actually making things up.
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>>583371390
You've got 4 weeks to cycle through depressive self-loathing and return to manic hope, anime-anon.
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Crocolisk or Owl main? Nerd loser pick.
Crab main? Based winner pick.
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>SD models
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>>583371390
good. more mobs for me.
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>>583370812
If they play the same race as me, I help, if they don't, I steal it.
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>>583370715
Life and death is in my hands! >:0
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>>583371480
>human male
>hunter
>wolf pet
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>horde skyelf rogue cant do lockpicking quest
>cant do poison quest because you need lockpicking even though you pickpocket the fucking key
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>>583371390
I might as well not play because it will be hell on launch day
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>>583370910
9 out of 12 normies that I know irl that played wow never made it past level 40 and the rest quit in 50s.
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>>583371187
Just another abortion of a reply. Youre a complete fail.
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>>583371480
I heard that the bat ability even increases gcd by 60%. If so, it's ridiculous.
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>>583371603
HAHAHA GET FUCKED BLUETARDS
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>>583371253
No, I was too busy PvPing in the peacebloom war and never got around to making a proper RP alt.
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Forever should have been on Steam
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>>583371260
Unchecked mental illness by terminally online retards that don't possess any ability to actually think, see >>583371449
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For launch, should I go Ally or Horde for PVP?
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>>583370910
I did this when classic released, just not worth my time
I got multiple 60 in turtle tho, now that was fun
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>>583370412
Frick u >:[
Im masculine as HECK
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>>583371449
I dont have the information that people make up in their head, yeah
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>>583371475
bipolar gods can't stop winning
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>>583371630
All of the iconic parts of WoW: The Game are level 1-40. WoW: The Meme is level 60 content, but only the entry level shit like UBRS (LEEEEEEROOOOOOY JEEEEEEEENKIIIIIIIINS) and Zul'gurub (coronavirus in WoW?!?!?)
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>>583371710
alliance because
>horde will be blocked 90% of the time for character creation on the pvp megaserver
>horde bg queues will be 10 times longer than alliance ones
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Just hit 30 on my druid. This is the end now, right? Not sure what to do now. Gnomer/RFK/Excavation?
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>>583371035
it's not, though
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>>583371870
racials are not settled yet
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>>583371687
if they end up caving and making an rppvp ruleset you should try it
no excuse not to anymore when they're reducing raid size to 10/20 so you'll still be able to do guild runs and get your gear as well
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>>583371878
Full run of Gnomer doing every quest, especially the punch card quest. Will genuinely be at least a couple of hours.
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>>583371708
>>583371754
t. midwits who think they know everything and assume everyone else is just making shit up to protect their own egos
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>>583371916
>the intelligence of an asmonigger on full display
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>>583370812
Heal them/help them kill mob then wait to see if they take the item or not
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>>583371878
Make another druid
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>>583371878
Your only option is to hit 5 legacy points for the extra talent points, respec balance, and tell me how it feels. Get to it.
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>>583371982
show me the rule he's breaking, retard. i'll wait
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>>583371845
It just really gave me a different perspective because normalfags play and treat this game completely differently and what you read on forums is in reality just autistic schizobabble.
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Fine, I'll do it myself
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>>583371035
if its against the rules how does he broadcast it to 3million people
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Do you think a possible tinker class will have machines to optimize gathering? Or will it be too unbalanced? They will prolly be a shit jack of all trades in battle anyway, like a sort of resource intensive mechanic druid.
>https://www.wowhead.com/npc=148422/bilgewater-mining-machine#modelviewer
>https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=95416/sky-golem#modelviewer
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Did everyone get the survey asking about racial ability balancing when you dinged 30? Or was that just me?
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>>583371870
the name reservation you get from the preorder, is making the character on the faction you want, you wont be stuck, you have it made already
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>>583371978
I know America is a 3rd world country and you can't afford healthcare but try your best to get into therapy of any kind so you can maybe try fixing whatever is wrong with you.
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>>583371710
It depends on what class you’re playing. You need to play the race with the best pvp racial ability, or else you won’t get legendary pvp parses and won’t be invited to a top 100 bg group.
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>>583372093
all of those seem like a downgrade from just straight naga
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>>583372108
>all tinkers get engineering as bonus third profession
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>>583372084
Classic normies are dads with seventeen children and four wives who can't play the game more than five minutes a day, retail normies are those wives who collect every mount and mog and log in every day and have the game running in the background while they do laundry and dishes.
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>>583372093
>Releases water elves instead
Problem?
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Has anyone got the ass and titties mod to work on forever?
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>>583371253
>I didn't see much raiding
>guy who didn't join a raid guild
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>>583372157
>paying extra money to shizzard so you can play the noshoe faction
lol
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>>583372331
kino and way better than skytrannys
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
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>>583372449
Who?
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>>583372331
*updates imorph*
nope, no problem here
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>>583372449
>AIEEEE A LEVEL 17 HUNTER SAVE MEEEEE
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>>583371978
If the information was so important you'd share it and enlighten people, but you're just arguing from a supposed position of superiority of "having access" to something that we allegedly don't.
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>>583372449
>couldn't even last 2 days on m&m after shilling it for a year
lol
lmao
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>>583369736
Lol have fun on era little brown sissy. Its the era of the yellow man now.
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druids should be able to unlock new cosmetic options for all of their forms, preferably through purchases in the in-game store.
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>>583372093
Kino, would play this snakeman durid
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>>583372449
If Alex took meds, he would be more popular than Asmongold.
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>>583364756
>First patch will add Ranger Class. Specs are Elven Ranger
Logging on to my Orc Elven Ranger
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>>583372407
bad analogy because raid pugs are very popular and accessible
for that matter, street RP is also very popular and accessible on real RP realms
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October 4th.

My dearest sir. I write you again to tell you that I have still not received a beta invite. If this was intended, please disregard, but if this is due to some unforeseen oversight, I encourage you to invite me at your earliest convenience.

Yours fondly
Nate Higgers
<Therapist of Elves>
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>>583372050
How do you get legacy points?
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>>583372662
last one makes no sense
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>>583370540
>please play on my pvp server, you don't even have to pvp if you don't want to! but i'd really like people here who don't want to pvp so i can get a few easy kills because it's just so much fun when i'm not in any danger at all

i'm good

it's very strange seeing just how many people playing on pvp servers keep complaining that some people don't want to.
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>>583372662
the keeper of the grove would actually ruin my immersion
fail rp
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>>583371878
What a complete abortion of a post. Thats the dumbest person I’ve seen in this thread. Actually just abortions almost every post is a mentally handicapped gamer sipping on caffeine. You actually have a learning disability if you can’t figure this out on your own. It’s literally been designed for you specifically, the dumbest person on the planet. You were the target audience. And, blizz still failed to achieve their desired results. Just complete and total abortions.
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>>583372108
tinker, necro, death knight and warden would be such easy W for blizz
they could even put bard in for all the d&d bluehairs
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>>583372840
Deathknight should stay dead
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>>583372662
They should add new forms with their own unique abilities as rewards for endgame content.
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>>583372534
Why do people do this? Do you really want to be a random AQ mob as the player character that badly? How does this not ruin the game for you?
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>>583372534
best part is 7550 is the old model ud so it feels really good
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>>583372662
tackiest shit blizz has ever added
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>>583371164
Are you talking about the druids in the caves, or some other section?
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what's the difference between playing on a pvp server and flagging myself for pvp on a pve server?
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>>583372840
DK fucking sucks
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>>583372914
I want to be one because they're cool, that's why
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>>583373116
flagging yourself for pvp only allows people to attack you, not the other way around.
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>AEEEEIIGH ASMON IS BREAKIN DA RULES
>okay, proof?
>complete silence

is this the best turtleniggers have to offer?
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>>583373116
PvP server autoflags you when you're in a contested or hostile zone
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>>583369185
>beep fixing service for negroes
aaand you're lying, negroes can't hear beeps because they're born and live their whole lives with them and filter it out on genetic level, therefor they wouldn't have a need for such a service
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>>583372108
Tinkers should have access to Undermine as their "Moonglade" with shit like a goblin stock market and a super auction house.
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>>583373351
>super auction house
what would a super auction house be
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>>583373519
Connects the Horde, Alliance, Steamwheedle and Black Market Auction Houses into one.
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Is that cozy sleeping bag quest chain even worth doing? The quests send you way out of any reasonable questing routes for a 3% exp boost
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So class balance will be worse than vanilla, right?
Most hybrid specs seem worthless and their utility is gutted.
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they should make a snowflake hero class ruleset for all the classic warrior mains who cant handle not being top dps, where dps warrior is the only class you can choose and the rest are played by bots
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>>583373519
they give you the failed deposit from other players
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>>583373597
Yeah, just kill all of the (level-appropriate) mobs that you come across while doing it. Quests exist to get you to grind mobs.
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>>583373640
Are you on crack? Hybrids are going to be the kings of Forever.
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>>583373640
No
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>>583373640
>So class balance will be worse than vanilla, right?
impossible
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>>583373597
Only as alliance and even then it's meh. Fuck making the run to the middle of westfall as horde
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>>583373597
It's not worth it right now but at release that 3% is going to pay dividends
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are you full BIS yet wowfg
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>>583373597
If it still offers the Student Fodder from SoD then it is 100% worth it if you save those for the late 50s. They give you a big boost of rested exp. If not then probably no if you're trying to be efficient, just bum off someone else's sleeping bag if they have one.
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>Man I can't wait to play a melee hunter and fight alongside my pet like Rexxar
>FUCK YOU SURVIVAL IS ACTUALLY MELEE RANGED WEAVING SPEC BECAUSE STREAMERS (that will drop the game after a month when their paid sponsor ends) LIKE IT
Can we unironically just gas all streamers
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>>583373640
I don't think they can do that even if they tried, end game raiding in vanilla is abhorrent for 95% of the specs.
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>>583373597
>>583373907
Sleeping bag and the food buff will really add up over the course of leveling to 60. That's legitimately tens of hours shaved off the grind.
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who are these "streamers" blizzard are designing classes for that you guys are so obsessed with
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>>583373957
>FUCK YOU SURVIVAL IS ACTUALLY MELEE RANGED WEAVING
is it tho?
looking at the surv tree and all I see is melee shit
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forever uses the retail auction house infrastructure
holy forever is going to be bussin bussin ong god
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>>583373957
Just go DW Surv and be Drizzt Do'Urden
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>>583374058
They said in the deep dive and podcast its being fully designed to be a weaving spec and pure melee will be suboptimal on purpose
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>>583373786
How?
All the debuffs are now personal and not raidwide, lower damage than pure dps, utility and buffs? Lol spec healer, they have the same buffs
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>>583373924
That was nerfed to only heal you
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>>583373640
>So class balance will be worse than 30 warriors and rogues, a warlock, and a druid
I don't think that's possible
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>>583373924
According to WoWhead, the fodders are nerfed. They're combination swiftness/resto pots that cast super renew on you.
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>>583373597
>Is that cozy sleeping bag quest chain even worth doing?
The average time it takes to level from 1-60 is about 8 days, or 192 hours. The sleeping bag gives you a 3% boost, bringing that down to roughly 186 hours. So overall, it saves you around 5-6 hours of levelling.
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>>583374076
this nigga xd
we live in a society
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>>583374284
you mean 44hours if mage
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>>583374284
Depends on if it's multiplicative or additive with the 5% EXP buff from food.
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>>583373894
Westfall isn't bad at all. You just take the zepplin to stv then jump off and swim up. Getting to Dun Morogh as Horde is the big timewaster.
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Going to start refering to all dps warriors as "hybrid dps" and say I dont expect them to do as much dps as the other pure dps classes, maybe even decline them sometimes
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>Paladin tank
>Shaman dps
>Priest healer
This is the endgame raid comp
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>>583374164
That dev specifically talked about 2 viable builds, with the more boring (in his opinion) one staying specifically in melee, and a more active one unloading with ranged, moving in to melee, then pulling back when ranged mechanics activated.
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>>583374076
The retail auction house is way better than the classic auction house, my only gripe is wands aren't classified as ranged weapons.
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>>583373997
The food buff only affects exp from kills and the sleeping bag is likely the same. Forever nerfed the exp from kills so the exp buffs are pretty tiny, especially the bag when considering it will probably take you like 30 minutes to do
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just got devouring plague, it feels really lackluster
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>>583374529
prot will be the best dps spec anyways
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soo..... what 4chan guild we joining for release
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>>583373042
Yea that guy, the gear itself is shit but I think people were saying the transmog itself is really nice. I wanted to try it but I am a poorfag and didn't give bliz the $60.
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>join group looking for tank
>has a warrior and a paladin
>paladin healing so he's alright
>ask warrior why he's not tanking
>says he's dps
>say I don't tank for warriors
>leader kicks warrior and instantly fills with a mage
Feels good not to be a DPSissy lmao
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>>583374692
>Forever nerfed the exp from kills
That only affects dungeon mobs not overworld mobs which you will be killing plenty of.
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>>583373640
Classic balance
PvE:
>warrior
Take 25 of these.
>rogue
Good dps but warrior is better so you can take one for imp expose armor.
>shaman
Your warriors need wf so take 6.
>paladin
Your warriors need kings, might and salv so take 3. They all heal naturally.
>priest
Fill rest of your healers with this. Needed for razuvius too.
>mage
Unfortunately some bosses require magic/ranged dps so you must take like 4 of these.
>warlock
Your warriors need curse of reck so you need one. Your mages need elements so you need one more.
>hunter
Someone's gotta pull so get one.
>druid
Your warriors need faerie fire so take one. You can make it either a boomkin or resto.

That's all classes represented so it looks like we have perfect balance.

Pvp balance was better.
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>>583374201
>>583374224
Gay
Not worth it then
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>>583374850
good guilds skipped curse of elements
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>>583374697
you dont use it while levelling really, too much mana, need the deep shadow talents to make it cost fuck all
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>>583374284
using the sleeping bag is an xph loss if you're a true poopsocker
you need to waste 195 seconds every hour (5.4%) to get a 3% xp buff, which 2.3% less xph
or in other words, to get the buff for those 186 hours, you need to spend 9.3 hours sleeping and 0.8 hours on the cast animation of the bag, bringing the total to 196 hours
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How will Blizzard fix dungeons?
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>>583374763
Chat is this real
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>>583364876
>accomplishments in the raiding community
made me smirk
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>>583373913
anyone who joins my group who has done this will get immediately kicked :)
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>>583374956
The fodders had the healing effects in SoD, they were pretty solid as an "oh shit" button while leveling. There's also the possibility that WoWhead is wrong or it's bugged.
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>>583374763
<Olympus wowfg>
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>>583375039
Heres how:
>changes that only minimally disguise how badly i want to get afk boosted to 60 by chinks again
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>>583374483
Yea I should've mentioned that too. I don't see getting the bag on horde unless you're turbo casual smell the flowers kinda guy
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>>583374976
Second fastest naxx in classic (fastest also had 2 locks but they were chinks)
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>>583374483
thats why you pay the booster to summon
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>>583374763
<wowfag>
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>>583375162
im horde
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How long do I have to wait for the Goblin patch?
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>>583375039
Bosses drop two items from their pool.
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>>583374763
>gooning fapping chudgoyclique make a foid shake
I'm not joining any 4chan guild bro
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magebros, is it over for us after the nerfs?
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>>583375386
honestly if it wasnt for goblins eventually being added id be tempted to level a resto sham, but i want to be a goblin resto sham so ill wait
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>>583375221
looks like they have a weaving priest too. another flaw in anons list
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ALEX HAS CATS
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https://youtu.be/ZKBGQBUAYhU
>world buffs
>and on pvp servers faction based castle buffs
War and Rogue is gonna be OP as fuck again. Also we GW2 now.
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>>583375000
Dont forget that if you die you lose the buff and the bag has a 1 hour cooldown
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>>583375221
This is good game design according to classic purists.
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They should give (almost) every class a tanking spec
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>>583375039
Nerf dungeon quest XP a little more.
Make bosses give a big chunk of XP instead of spreading it out over dungeon mobs.
If mobs in the dungeon are grey to anyone, they give no XP to the party.
After you kill a dungeon boss, you get a debuff that reduces the XP that boss gives by 90%.

All of this effort just to stop mages aoe boosting everyone jesus fucking christ.
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>>583373957
It appears that you can play it almost purely melee. Surely you don't want to be an optimization parsing cuck right?
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>>583375386
They should revisit the Warcraft 3 goblin concepts and add Wild/Forest Goblins.
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>>583375664
but why
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Always thought the Shobek guy is cringe as hell but he made a good point. Way back when, I decided my first main by looking at the current tier set and thinking “yeah that’s cool as shit. I wanna be that”

I will do the same thing this time, for the first time, since the first time.
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>>583375498
I'm not paying for shit so I can't see the actual logs, but based on the rankings it looks like it's just some priests dps'ing in fights that don't require healing like loatheb. You wouldn't waste a debuff slot for weaving.
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>>583368701
kek that shaman is so fucking trash, unbelievable.
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>>583375813
Dude trust me
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>>583375691
Some sort of "full clear" once a day quest would be fine too. I would actually propose that the full clear is some sort of item pickup where they randomly spawn around the dungeon, to encourage exploration and never having an optimal route.
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the king is live
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>>583375039
>Is there a level 60 in the group?
>You now get little to no EXP
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>twinking
>in a beta
I instead made sure to know all the new quests and the broken tooth timer, as that will actually matter for live
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>>583365532
Pve tranny cope.
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>>583374976
>good guilds skipped extra damage for free
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>>583374483
>get the westfall quest when you go to do deadmines
>get the dun morogh quest when you do the wetlands dungeon
>can run down to badlands and grab the kargath flightpoint while in dun morogh
It's doable but if you are trying to rush unlock the sleeping bag as soon as you hit 14 it would be a huge waste of time
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Kill all warriors. Rape all warriors. Curbstomp all warriors. The health of Forever will not be safe until all stinking fucking warrior monkeys are reduced to a single one in every 40 man raid. I am not kidding.
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>>583376002
thats already in, you get 0 exp if theres a dude like 2levels higher than the mobs
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>>583367790
comments on this made me feel sick. Are terminally online men really like this lmao
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>me want goblins
>constantly posts off model fan art that look nothing like them
lmao
lol
rofl
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>>583376028
>broken tooth
i miss rare pet farming, now even that is mostly pointless
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This game isn't ready for prime time IMHO, the megaservers are too new and will fuck people up when it comes to quests. Things Blizz needs to do before launch.

1. Some quests need to be instance-based, quest like the Inflitrating the Castle and the Druid Cat quest, being a prime example.

2. In PVP servers layering needs to work like chracter creation. You can't have 10k Alliance in one layer with like 100 horde. That's bullshit.

3. Need a 12-hour day/night cycle for people fro EU or Asia.

4. The castle siege mechanic is dumb if people can just nightcap it. If you want to do the bonus dungeon as someone from Australia or the Middle East you're just fucked because someone at 2 am decided to flip a castle.
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>>583376126
Why does that matter when you get barely any experience regardless?
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>>583376071
But are those dungeons even worth doing?
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>he thinks blizz is gonna revamp goblins
They’re done making new player skeletons if you couldn’t tell. Every race that is ever released from this point forward will be a reskin. It’s the only reason I don’t tell the satyr gooner anon to fuck off, he’s probably gonna get what he wants. Super easy to just reskin Draenei.
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>>583376263
its not 1 global mega server, its 1 megaserver per region
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>>583374076
This nigga sweet as sugar plum
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>>583376154
I want goblins, specifically warcraft goblin females, not eastern goblins that are just short green elves, I want their big noses and new york jew accents telling me how much extra gold a creampie costs as they leg lock me
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>>583376389
Why are eufags and Seafags here then?
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>>583375632
so trve, we desperately need fresh vnd fash
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>>583364692
Why did he choose lighting that makes him look like hes blood pressure is very high
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>>583376365
>>he thinks blizz is gonna revamp goblins
Who?
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>>583374785
It'd be faster for you to google "wowhead forever dressing room," and then use this guy's Sells tab for the names of what you're after. Hopefully this helps you check things out.

https://www.wowhead.com/forever/npc=254151/vayn-moongaze#sells;0-6-3
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>it takes almost a whole minute to send a mail to an alt

BUSSIN
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>Druid pvp gameplay
>You put dots on people and you're really good at running away when they fight back
why do people like this again?
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>>583376463
because its 1 server for the beta to save on costs, they didnt think it would be so popular
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>>583376329
Doing every dungeon once for the legacy point is worth. Wetlands one has a bunch of quests too.
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>if you put a recipe to your spell bar and use it you'll have a shortcut to crafting it after learning
NEW TECH
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>>583375967
Based
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>>583376463
betas are always NA server only
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what classes benefit the most from sky elf 1% haste? obviously that sky elf can be. is haste even a common stat in classic?
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>>583376263
>Need a 12-hour day/night cycle for people fro EU or Asia.
6 hours would be better
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>>583376463
holy fuck you're retarded, are you even in the beta? it's one server for the beta, jesus christ you people are fucking helpless. how do you remember to breathe?
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>>583376582
22 years of flag carrying turned druid players into slippery fuckers who get pleasure from being uncatchable
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There should be a stripper profession
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>>583376716
Rogue
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>>583376731
No I'm from India and it costs too much.
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>>583376463
retard
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the writing is on the wall, girls. the crystals, the stars, the planets, the retrograde orbits, and even the bones spell it out clearly: there is no way this does not turn into a complete shitshow.

blizzard are the greatest criminals of all time. it's astonishing they always manage to somehow rerun the same scam. it's brilliant.
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Shaman players, what are you most excited for in Forever?
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>>583376716
Warrior and mage benefit the most from haste. 1% haste is a meme though and should not be considered competitive when other options are available. Play the elf if you want to be a faggot, don’t try to justify it with meta slop now when it’s been well and firmly established since they got announced that their racials are by far the worst.
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>>583376824
SWG had Dancer Entertainer. SWG was such an amazing MMO. IT just needed more to do at endgame.
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how is this better than midnight?
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>>583376582
Because theyre a jack of all trades.
>heals
>stealth
>tank
>melee dps
>magic dps
>high mobility
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lol
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>>583376925
Cool, you can leave now and never post again, bye.
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>>583373640
Frankly it should be every class or spec having something the raid or party wants, like Survival Hunter in TBC, and those less optimal specs for dps should be fine with -20% dps. But it should a good enough raid buff to make up for it.
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>>583376586
You could just solo the dungeons after you hit 60 and have nothing better to do
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>>583376716
It's so minor that it isn't going to make a difference. If you genuinely care about racials then you wouldn't be picking the race with the overall worst racials in the game to begin with.
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>>583376959
i'm gonna have an elf alt because that's what my gf wants to play and i dont want to walk all the way to the starting zone as a different race, it wont be my main but i figured i'd pick something that gets some semblance of benefit from the racial
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>used to sell gold and a character for $200 back in the heydays of wow
>used the same email for Forever
I wonder how this will come back to bite me.
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>>583377035
it's not fucking dead
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>>583377141
The true answer is it’s a waste of time. Spend the 20 minutes walking there on a real race instead of making your entire existence on that character miserable.
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>>583376402
>new york jew
Goblins are Cubans and Pinocchios*, retard.
* from Shrek
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>>583377226
they dont even keep old versions of their own game, they arent keeping your logs
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>>583377035
sovl + sovlfog
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>>583375967
Asmongold runs this general
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Will Olympus have branches in EU and Asia as well?
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>request to join group on level 8 or 9 quest on my Nelf alt
>complete silence most of the quest
>1 member suddenly types
>gibberish like "zarafalta lekka loki kaaka"
>whatever you say brother
>finish quest and log out
cozy
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the fuck is up with the combat log
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your 100k tournament winner right here
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>>583377330
what's the easiest way to get to the sky elf zone as alliance? seems like horde have a much easier time
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The biggest threat to WoW Forever isn't the stereotypical retail andys, it's this "open world questing sucks and is boring, dungeons are what the game is about" faction whining that they can't level 1-60 in dungeons anymore.
They hide behind "we just want to play with our friends" but they never ask for more non-instanced elite areas. They aren't pro-party so much as pro-instancing and anti-world content.
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>>583376958
There are shaman players?
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>>583377563
>lekka kaaka
>tasty poo
Kek
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>>583375221
imagine being these warriors lmao
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>>583376925
create and destroy
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>>583376958
I just want a big mace and bonk enemies
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I hope a Shaman wins the 100k tournament by getting chain windfury crit procs.
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>>583374763
If you're in europe there will be a massive 4chan guild on PvP Alliance
If you're an american just go Olympus
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>>583377687
This
>B-but what about tanks and healers-
Tank and heal a party while questing
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Olympians our healer needs buff and heals!!
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Dear blizzshard please delay the release I don't know what class I want to play.
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>>583377867
based
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>>583377035
I'm not spending an entire zone following an NPC around helping them "learn to bear the burden" or "discover who they are" which involves me killing things and interacting with stuff while they stand there and monologue until we hit a cutscene that focuses on said NPC while my character sits in the cuck chair off in the corner (if they show up at all)
And some other stuff too I guess
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>>583377950
who cares play all of them
and then just play one and quit halfway through anyway
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>>583377950
I wish they would have released it next year because of GTA
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>>583377687
The astroturfing from the boost sellers is in full force
They're so pissed about dungeon mob xp lol
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if they add a bunch of retarded classes nobody asked for (all of the ones in the survey) this game is finished
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>>583378132
Why would it be finished it's called Forever. It will never be finished and have constant updates.
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>>583377981
"We must be better Azerothians", she said sayingly.
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>>583378132
we need 1 more melee dps class without mana thats it
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>>583377687
Its painfully obvious they just miss boosting, they're way more transparent than they try to convince anyone that they are
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I love the tears of classic warrior babies, sorry bub you're not top dps anymore, I'll invite some REAL DPS instead
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>>583376028
>minmaxing, speed running and parsing all started in retail
>all those players played retail
>play classic/forever because they 'don't like retail'
>bring all that shit with them
baffling really
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>>583377653
That isn't a hunter
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Ni hao fellow players, we are all very angry about this change toward dungeon xp. Blizzard must correct their mistake as soon as possible the heavens wills it.
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>>583377687
they exp changes to having high levels in the party the mob cap on conc and mages cant perma slow from a double nerf kill it anyway, its actually weird they would nerf the exp for normal people
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>>583378272
Why not a caster dps class without mana?
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>>583378272
remove arms warrior, replace it with gladiator. turn arms warrior into blademaster class
that's the ONLY new addition i will accept
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We need vertical progression or the game will die after 60
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This was such a comfy place, wish they had made something like it. Or even copied it 1:1.
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Need another class that uses ranged weapons, its insane that 22 years later still only hunters use them in any version of the game.
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The game should have more fairycore stuff.
Housing would be a good step.
I'm talking that feel one gets from stumbling upon a meticulously decorated Neverwinter Nights House.
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>>583376582
because you're basically unkillabe in wpvp, and any melee spec is basically just fucked.
>dot opponent
>run out of their range
>redot them
>if they poly/slow/snare you just shift and you're good to go
>tons of self healing and can shift into bear form to be too tanky to actually kill
>if they try to run away you're the fastest class in the game and they can't out speed you
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>>583378586
Maybe the mecha class from the survey can use ranged weapons. Although it will be more likely that it's ranged weapon parts for your mech instead of just gun or bow. Like a flamethrower or rockets. Man this class sounds kino.
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>>583378586
plate wearing ranged guy that can only use 2h guns and new 1h guns
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>>583378406
mainly cuz i dont want to cast for 3secs but if they have fast casts that could be cool
>>583378492
kino
abd another 2h melee would be nice
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>>583378402
Those normal people should just run the dungeons for the quests which still give decent xp. Nerfing kill xp doesn't make a quest run worthless.
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wow this general has become reddít 2.0. you're all such fucking faggots. your parents never loved you and never will.
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>>583378747
Mecha is so retarded for vanilla world it's crazy. Most ever should be Gazlowe's backpack thing.
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>>583369134
It's extremely easy to replace gear in Retail Minus
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>>583378492
>stealth with +70% movement speed and castable in combat
>crits for 4x damage
>bladestorm
I like it. Turns both warriors and rogues obsolete at the same time.
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I think WoW needs more RACES. Not necbesarily Classes.

Things like
;

-High Elf
-Goblin
-Ogre
-Night Elf Worgen.
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>>583378891
yeah we need more /ss/ to weed out the tourists i agree.
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>>583378891
My mom says she's proud of me lil bro
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look how happy alex is
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>they unironically retail'd mankirks wife
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>>583378586
true hunter is obvously supposed to be the survivalist beastmaster archetype we need a fully ranged focused class
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>>583378841
ofcourse but thats not the main complaint, its rerunning it a few times thats a waste and that sucks, it would be better to nerf the quest exp back to how it was in classic and give the mob exp back, dungeon grinding was never faster than questing and both are slower than hyperspawn farming
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>>583378892
Sneed had his mech in the game since Vanilla. It's vanillacore to the maxx.
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>>583378921
Broken Draenei would be good. Another shaman for alliance.
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>>583378891
It's ok to enjoy thins /v/ro. Don't let the social conformist 'cringe' term get you down.
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>>583378892
Gazlowe's Backpack turns into a mech, dumbass.
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>>583370910
I already quit when I hit 30, respecced into Penance and realize this game was pozzed Retail garbage
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You know what we really need? Dual classes.
We need to see the absolute cancer that would be shadow priest main with affli lock secondary.
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>>583377653
You don't get a PvP trinket?
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>>583377653
Until it gets nerfed, hunters are winning with their lvl 45 bow
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>>583379220
That is unaesthetic and anti-RP
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>>583379264
now make the wolf fuck her
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>>583378921
>Worgen
>Redeemed Forsaken
>Draenei
>some demon race (redeemed)
Add them Blizz
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>>583378921
ENTER
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>>583379264
Why is she naked
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>>583377687
it's the classic boomers who say they want to pvp in the open world but then sit in instance getting boosted to 60, lower life forms than roaches
reddit is full of it, maybe part of it is also astroturfing from the boosters lul
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>>583379043
>>583379102
As a maybe 10 minute cool down that lasts 15 seconds. People running around in mechs is retarded.
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If history has taught us anything is that the classic meme modes die within a year while Era will continue to thrive.
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>>583379264
i hope so, i want priest to not get nerfed, but you will probably be stuck in the deadzone
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>>583379264
i look like this
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>>583378891
mom made a lamb roast with potatoes
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new race: anime
new class: demonic angel of death
my character's name? sephiroth uchiha
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>>583379220
they could make it so you need 2 max classes to get a new one, like rogue + warrior = warden
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>>583379445
Robo-Goblin lasts until cancelled in Warcraft 3, anon.
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Night Elf Worgen would be such a cool race.

Their Druidic Feral form would just be their worgen form but more beastial. A True Druid of the Claw.
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>>583379656
Ok and it would look retarded to be permanent in WoW.
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>>583376263
If you want the rainbow you gotta put up with the rain
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>>583379445
Why? It would be cool af. I think only gnomes and goblins if they add them should be able to be one though.
That would be the coolest shit ever I think people who say it's stupid just don't want to be forced to play as gnomes
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blizzard should add the most powerful race in the world, Filipinos
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>>583379725
Druids of the Knot
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worgen look stupid without tails
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>>583379725
>cast pack form
>permanently lose control of your character and get to watch as it goes feral
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>>583379741
Not any more retarded than shadowform.
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>GUYS IM STREAMING AND THIS TIME I WILL NOT DISSAPEAR IN A BIPOLAR SCHIZO EPISODE I PROMISE!
>IM LE HECKING CRITISIZING BLIZZORD GUYS! PLEASE SUB TO MY STREAM
>ps im not a 5 ft 3 midget. thats all lies by racist nazis.
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My Racial Addition Picks for WoWever:

Alliance:
-High Elf. <<---- We need Blood Elf Model Priests and Paladins.
-Night Elf Worgen <--- Very cool stuff.
-Draenei with Broken Customization as an option, but also having the normal Draenei customization. <---- RP'd as some of the Broken being healed.

Horde:

-Goblin <--- The Symmetry to the Alliance's Gnome. Has to happen.

-Ogre <--- It's been a long time coming.

-Gnoll <---- Horde needs a dog race.

-Scaley Monster <--- Horde needs some sort of Scaley Monster race.
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>>583380008
>*SLUUUUUUUUUUURP*
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>night elves totally aren't trolls guys
>average night elf:
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>>583379928
Shadowy figure vs. massive mech bigger than tauren or most ogres, hmmmm.
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>>583380008
she needs to remove her own horsecock, and put 2 other horsecocks in her ass instead
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>>583376730
>6 hours would be better
Ideally it would not be divisible evenly into 24 so that people who play at the same time each day get a wide range of times. They'll never do it regardless but it would be nice
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Guys whats the deal with legacy points? they were here then gone then back then I hear they're no longer relevant even if you want the +5 talents, then I hear blizz is giving everyone legacy talents
whats the deal?
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>>583379957
he is 6 ft 3 though
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a goyscore DKP has been thought about for the upcoming 4chan mega-guild, I'll keep you guys updated
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>>583380008
she stole the outfit, now make her rail cunnymane for complete domination and mogging
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pvp last week with the 20 level cap
>attack enemy faction on sight
>i'm stronger? good, i can kill more
>it's a lowbie? kill it
>no such thing as 1 on 1, it's everyone vs everyone
>massive raids forming just prevent the enemy faction from doing anything in a zone

pvp now
>everyone doing their own thing
>completely ignore each other in the road
>don't even bother to run
>left alone even when outnumbered 5 to 1
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>>583380130
A mech is literally a mount but it can fight. Gnomes already pilot mechs in vanilla WoW.
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>>583379957
Is he actually mentally ill or something? He seems like a compulsive liar too.
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>>583379957
>ALRIGHT GUYS FUCK THIS RETAIL MINUS SLOP WE'RE PLAYING MONSTERS & MEMORIES
>sorry guys monsters & memories just isnt the move it would be channel suicide im so sorry guys its wow forever
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>>583380167
>>583380167

>>583380167
>>583380167
>>583380167
>>583380167
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>>583380262
20-30 is when leveling starts to become a slog, especially with the dungeon xp nerf. Nobody wants to fuck around right now until they hit cap.
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>>583380102
Why are ally players always obsessed with elves and worgens?
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>31 days left
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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>>583380470
*FVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRK
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He's in.
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>>583380380
Nigga they added 2 additional dungeons for the level range, seek help.
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>>583380470
some of us won't make it there statistically
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>>583380220
>>583379957

>>583380315
Yes, He has bipolar disorder and narcissism. The bipolar is an educated guess by the alexensual fans discord, and the narcissism he has confirmed himself during one of his IRL vlogging arcs.

>>583380351
I just want him to fail again, it amuses me.
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>>583380485
I mained this mf in dota and got kicked from my local lan because I screamed MOULTICAAAST everytime it procced
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>>583380514
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If you got a piece of equipment once you should be able to get it for all of your characters as a duped item that's not tradable or sellable. Get a weapon in a dungeon on a need roll? Cool, now you can use it on your next alt character as well!
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>Alliance
>didn't play it originally so it'd be a fresh experience for me
>enjoy the towns/zones aesthetics way more than Horde
>don't like how any of the races look at all
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what the fuck is this trader faction in the barrens? is it even implemented in the game? i havent seen a single one of these crates that you're supposed to hand in for rep tokens
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>>583380505
Dungeons that give shit xp.
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>>583380593
Man is that this Alex guy you schizos keep talking about? Literally who
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>>583380514
I know no one here is going to die by November 4th, because I decided it.

But I will say, I had a laugh because your post reminded me of that Memorial NPC Reddit Post.
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ngl i might uninstall
not really feeling the beta anymore
i already burnt myself out leveling too many characters to 20, im just going to ruin the game for myself anymore
i just know that i'll reinstall the game tomorrow and burn myself out even harder though...
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>>583380787
YOU OWE HIM YOUR ALLEGIANCE HE GAVE YOU CLASSIC WOW. HE GAVE YOU /WOWCG/ AND HE HAS NOW GIVEN YOU /WOWFG/. HES OUR MIDGET LORD.
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>>583380787
he runs this general
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>>583380780
I have found 4
check AH they are pretty cheap
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new 'jak
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>>583380809
how did you get multiple characters to level 20? I'm still on my first character and he just turned lvl 15 last night.
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>>583380167
>>583380167
>>583380167
>>583380167

>>583380167
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>>583380787
A lot of people don't know this, but hes based af. He hates troons, blacks and women. He's /our/guy, but on his stream and youtube he pretends hes woke for the money.
>>583380934
kek
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>>583380809
Shut the fuck up sillu
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>>583380941
These faggots don't know how to enjoy the game. It took me 30 hours to get to 20 and then you have people here saying it's like 10-12 hours. Sounds so sweaty and unenjoyable.
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>you will join the olympussy
>you will drink the cockroach milk

tick tock blizzard. tick tock.
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>>583379018
mankirk's wife was always trans
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>>583381090
I would if I wasn't EU
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>>583381164
>eucuck
kek.
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yea na this shit ain't it

no game will ever be
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>>583366510
suction house
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>>583379018
>retail
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I'm bursting at the seams, I feel like posting about her over and over again.
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>>583381090
i will join Alex guild
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>>583380167
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=world+of+wow+of+warcraft+forever+wow+legacy+points+wow+beta
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>>583381321
you will own nothing and will not be happy.
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>>583379018
>dont look back in anger
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>>583381279
this was sad.

Darkshore is so kino. And playing a Sky Elf through it gives me this Fairy Weird Jak and Daxter sort of vibe.

Elves are just so fuckin' top shelf.
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>>583381279
Anaya has always been trans
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>>583379018
this is literally the opposite of what happens in retail
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>>583381467
>this was sad
Wait... do people actually read quests..?
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>>583381061
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>>583381357
>yea they're coming back but no date its a blue post
why couldn't you say this instead of being a little bitch smug redditor?
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>>583380262
People don't pvp unless they have a distinct advantage. This means that since the cap has risen all the level 20 shitters that farmed bis are getting stomped on, so they stopped pvping in the world. They will not return until they yet again obtain an advantage.

This is why wow pvp always sucks. You think you're playing a game of skill, but it's really just a numbers game. They only fight you if they feel like they have no chance to lose.
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>>583381609
Not him but you spam replied to your post so I didn't feel like answering you genuinely either
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>>583381667
>People don't pvp unless they have a distinct advantage.
You can be the change you wish for.
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>>583381609
nobody owes you anything you little retard
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>>583381279
I think he's complaining it's "retail" because his wife is telling him to give up on vengeance (after you kill 60 quillboar for him) and not making him a perpetual quillboar genocider. Not because of the ghost
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>>583381521
Yeah, in retail Mankirk becomes an epic chungus Rambo reference and kills the quilboar LIKE A BOSS XDDD.
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>>583377774
I sincerely typed nonsense because I logged out before copying what they actually said but apparently my gibberish is real words somehow, neat
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>>583372662
you can turn yourself into a snake if you collect all the druid of the fang set pieces from WC.
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>>583381547
Yeah I even read the books in the Sky Elf Druid Cave.
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>>583381808
not but really why the little smug bitch redditor act
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we must be better mankriks
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>>583381872
they aren't, that's a transliterate translation
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>>583381928
I tried to read the quests but I always lose focus after a couple of lines and think of something else so I have to read over and over again
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>>583380008
Let me get some more of this minus the cock pls
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>>583375813
>but why
>Wouldn't mind tanking
>Don't want to play snoozeville Paladin or Warr
>Druid is the gayest class in the game
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it would be a lot of work, but they should disable placing campfires or camp items on roads.

They look like refugee camps with tents up in the middle of towns like Westfall and Duskwood.
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>>583381279
>to I
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>>583382081
Nah it's the place where people are most likely to see them
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Feral druid feels like ass to play
>cat is just rogue without any of the control or damage
>shitty bleeds which suck for leveling because generating combo points is slow as fuck
>bear is just warrior without any of the rage generation, mitigation, damage, or threat generation
>only spams swipe
>takes a fuck load more damage than warrior or paladin at the same level and deals less damage than both
>talent tree is bloated as fuck because blizzard devs are retarded
>has to suffer under all the warrior rage nerfs whilst never being overpowered to begin with so now it feels underpowered
I guess I just have to play paladin or warrior if I want the option to tank.
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>>583364884
This isn’t entirely true.

Enhancement got a few very good changes.
>30% attack speed cd capstone talent
>imp Stormstrike
>int AP scaling
>increased healing and spell damage
All of that is very good.

Elemental is more of a mixed bag
>lava burst and fire nova spell
I’d say these were good necessary additions and any long time shaman player knows why.
>loss of the Crit capstone
Sucks, not much else to say about it
>earthbound
Nice for PvP
The main issue with Ele is its spell scaling is the worst of any class.

>Resto
>better talents like +hit added
>riptide gives another heal which also buffs chain heal 20%
>still a chain heal bot
Honestly, I think it’s fine. Chain heal is the class fantasy and It should remain the focus
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>>583381976
>mankrik's wife is an anagram of manKIRK's wife
uhhhh bros?!
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>>583381998
>transliterate
now you're trying to gives words their own pronouns? enough is enough
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>>583382149
Retard
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>>583382081
on principle I don't use any of the camps which are in towns right in front of the Inn.

It's unaesthetic. Just like how in SWG Finalizer, the min-maxxers would AFK their entertainers in the front lobby of the Cantina while the actual seating area deeper in the Cantina was empty. Disgusting.
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>>583382081
yeah it looks gross
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>>583381547
brown parsing pedotroons do.
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>>583382185
>bear is just warrior without any of the rage generation, mitigation, damage, or threat generation
>only spams swipe
Oh nonononono
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pool's closed
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>>583382348
>t. Morhan Coppertongue
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>>583381770
I've had sex twice today plus a bowjob last night and just sent my gf a dick pick because I'm still horny and yet this image does nothing for me. How mentally ill are you anon?
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>>583376154
Look nigga when we get thousands of pictures of specifically warcraft Goblins that doesn't look like shit, I'll post those.
Pictures of humans posted in here don't look like Warcraft Humans (literal fucking gorillas with fucked proportions) nor do the Elves, but I don't hear you complaining about that, do I?

Quote my post next time you scared little bitch
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Today I learned windfury totem is only 1 extra attack while windfury weapon gives you 2
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>>583382081
>nooo why are you making my european fantasy kingdom more european
you just cant win as a game dev
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>>583382348
Camps inside towns are disgusting. They have to actually force this stuff and ban camps in town because this is the type of unaesthetic reflex that some players gravitate toward.

Also, Inns should have Camp Benefits and somehow be able to be 'manned' by players in order to give those benefits. Like in SWG.
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>>583382185
>>only spams swipe
swipe sucks and has horrible scaling, you'll be tab lacerating and primal biting to hold aggro
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>>583382395
Works on my machine.
See you in November, RMTranny
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>>583382389
>has 3 abilities
>maul kills your rage generation and provides no bonus threat
>primal bite has a 6 second cooldown
>swipe has no cooldown, htis 3 targets, and doesn't waste an autoattack
oh nooo, you're retarded.
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Got my lock to 22 and felt like that was enough of a refresher on no shoes leveling.

How are the new alliance 5 mans? I didnt do thise.
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>>583382561
They should not do this.
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>>583382467
Post the dickpic for proof.
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>>583382618
i read that as
>got my 22 locked and loaded
jesus
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>>583382259
Enh still has a lot of incredibly dead or just "why" talents like memestorm weapon (while using slow 2 handers and to spam... nerfed lightning bolts?? Huh?) and increased threat on rockbitter for no particular reason.
But keeping rockbitter without being a tank is weird and schizophrenic.
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>>583382467
how big is you’re gf’s alterac sausage?
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>>583382605
Bullshit, prove it
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this shit is pissing me off
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>>583382612
>3 (tres) % (percent) ap scaling
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>hes not practicing his 60rotation in his browser right now
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>>583382884
It's classic WoW

What fucking rotation
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>>583382709
You get reduced threat for not using rockbiter. It’s a threat reduction talent with a little utility.
It’s a good thing as Enhancement struggles with pulling threat as dps.
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>>583382884
give link
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>>583382910
Kino of the pedo variety saar!! You are a hero of the bharat people saar!
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How high will the level cap go during the beta do you think? I'm guessing 40.
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>>583383020
https://www.miao.tips/practice?lang=en
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>>583382867
Ah I see, so you're suggesting that I fight 1 enemy at a time when leveling, and also only pull 1 enemy at a time in dungeon. You've gone full retard
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why the fuck is pedoshit allowed here
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>>583382910
god i love these threads. So much cunny porn to save and jerk off to
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>>583383042
>How high will the level cap go during the beta do you think?
30.
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>>583383075
go back...

>>583383042
it's not raising again
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>>583383042
They will reveal that they're going beyond 60. Forever will have infinite level scaling.
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>>583382967
No, that part I get, but making rockbitter have increased threat while also not giving shaman a way to not die in 2 hits in pve sorta kills rockbitter as even an option.
But again, it is clear that Aggrend will run wowf like he ran SoD aka "There is one correct way of playing and anything not this 'correct way' will be nerfed".
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>>583383145
go back to what? a video game general talking about videogames?
get your pedo XIV mental illness out of this fucking thread
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>>583382150
>>583382309
>>583382348
>>583382549
The best solution I can think of is to prevent campfires from being placed within 100 years of a place that grants rested XP, just like you can't place a campfire within 100 yards of another campfire.
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>>583383075
because it is based and makes me rock hard. Stop comparing irl and fictional stuff and have fun
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>>583382561
The inn slut could be manned by up to three dudes for a collective benefit but the moment any of them makes eye contact they turn gay.
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>>583383162
>infinite level scaling
>each level beyond 60 gives you either 0.000001 spell/heal power, 0.000001 attack power, or 0.000001 armor
you will grind....forever...
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>>583383216
you know where.
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>>583383257
pedoshit isn't based its offtopic 1 and nsfw 2
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>>583383220
The best solution is for you to just accept that most players like it this way.
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>>583383069
see >>583382587
My little cuckagatini brownparsing rapegatini.
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retail won bigly
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>>583383192
Rockbiter always had increased threat. Take that complaint to the vanilla devs
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>>583383308
Make it 0.1 and I would do it yeah
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>goblin neutral race
>when faction imbalance grows they can shift allegience for a reward of gold

saved your pvp server
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>>583383308
Chinks would have still several hundred spell power within a year
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>>583383075
>Get invaded by loony goony troonies
>Doesn't know
The final step of a gooner is always to become a pedophiliac tranny.
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>>583383308
>>583383162
Combining WoW/Diablo systems is a dangerous path.
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>>583382910
all g, still hot
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>>583383501
i want my wowfg back

get the FUCK out of here pedoshit
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Is the game down or what I can't create a second char on pvp, "Finish" stays gray when I input a name
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>>583383468
retard 100 million levels would be needed to hit 100 spell/attack power
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>>583383607


>>583383607


>>583383607
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>>583383426
Because shaman was sorta mean as a tank like paladin, that's why 99% of classic +pserfs made shaman a tank.
It just got dropped in tbc and never picked up ever again, until sod.

The real reason shaman tank will never happen is because Ion will pull rank the moment shaman gets to be anything but a raid healer.
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>>583383612
>Finish
Sorry they only take in Norwegians now
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>>583383612
character creation is suppper laggy right now
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>>583383625
you underestimate how hard chinks will grind for 50c/hour
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do you think I could find a guild that wants to blind prog new raids instead of immediately jumping at the first opportunity to ruin any sense of wonder
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>>583382961
it's a feral simulator, pretty much the only one in vanilla that needs some brainpower tbf
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>>583383712
>>583383848
After waiting like 5 minutes I was able to get my char ;)
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>>583382612
Maul still has the 1.75 threat multiplier from classic. Classic tanking was tab maul.
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>>583383461
>Make Goblin to play with my Horde bros
>A few Alliance quit
>Suddenly I'm Alliance
>Friends re-roll to play with me
>Now I'm Horde again
That sounds fucking retarded
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>>583384175
pablo... read...
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>>583382807
Pristine leather are currently at or north of 95s per. A few minutes ago a globe of water was 50g. There was a 200g cobalt crusher posted an hour ago.
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>>583384270
I'm not reading SHIT I'm going purely off vibes and adhd
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Why do retoilets think Alliance want to play Goblins? I assure you they don’t.
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>>583382806
Asian so nice and tight
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>>583384638
alliance like the IDEA of people on alliance playing goblins, they don't want to be goblins themselves.
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>>583384638
>>583384741
I do...

t. Goblin player that likes the Alliance cities more
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>>583382283
You're the retard buddy. You don't say "he was nice to I"
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>>583380941
he doesnt actually play the game
the faggot is just farming (you)s while avatarfagging
you think a gachigger can afford the beta?



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