Shaman Badlands sleepover edition>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4thName reservations on October 27th.>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Alliance (EU)<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA)<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA)>Previous Thread>>583433159
For me its undead warlockwhat about you guys
Jainas womb
>>583458897This doesn't happen regardless, but create the group yourself and invite people who won't roll.
>>583458785>why? I love itYeah it's sure going to be a lot of fun everytime you're on a boat having to worry about getting knocked off it.
Realistically how bad is it going to be at launch?I'm assuming unplayable first day unless you get in early but usually going to be fine by friday?
>The wetlands dungeon is basically just a retail delveWorrying.
>>583459083>Yeah it's sure going to be a lot of fun everytime you're on a boat having to worry about getting knocked off it.You can play on PvE... or just don't stand on the edge
>>583459179HoT and RoL were both great. This one can probably be fixed.
>>583458990is full of green
>>583459179You saying is Kino?
>raceNight elf>classPriest>gunLoaded>locationYour zeppelin.Yep, it's transport police time
>>583459179>Sm gRaVeYarD iS juSt a DelvE!!!this is how fucking stupid you sound
>>583458969Not sure whether to go Undead or Troll this time
>>583459348betraying the alliance...
>>583459180>stand on the edgethat gun sends you flying like 20 yards. It's also going to be completely broken in BGs
>>583459348what would mushrooms do with nipples
>>583458969femgnome warrior
Why isn't Theramore a neutral city?
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THESE GENERALS
How old are you guysI'm 36
>>583458969Undead warlock is the most cuck race. Think about it. Your succubus has her needs that you can't satisfy with that limp bloodless dick, so you have to let her have her way with others instead.And for that you choose a human because they're the ones resembling you the most, which lets you pretend you're the one fucking her as you're sitting in the corner.
So is leveling as a disc priest easier now? I like the wand talent change and the rage gen change to PW shield but has there been any other major changes?
>>583459528because no one likes the noshoes
>>583459348people who post this shit have to be agp and want to be jaina
>>583459563>36>have wife and 2 kids>make ~315k combined salary>own house (no mortgage)>own 2 cars (no loans)>no debtsYes I do buy gold and raid log. I will be doing the same in WoWF.
>>583459478>every 10 minutes you can knock someone off the lumbermillshaman have been able to do this every 45 seconds for 18 years and we survived
>>583459179As another anon already pointed out, it's a twofer. You're supposed to run the wetlands dungeon and then follow the breadcrumbs to the new instance portal in the barrens and run that (once it gets added in.)Think of it like running sm gy and lib back to back, or both sides of mara.
what is it with the insane spam in reddit about the dungeon exp? are the iranian boosters so threatened? maybe israel should have bombed themtons of chatgpt posts crying about with accounts only posting about that single issueor are these the "world pvp is great but i want to spend my entire game in an instance" boomers?how about playing the game instead of swiping?
>>583458969Dwarf paladin
>>583459528because jaina at this point in time has an armistice with the orcs which isnt the same thing as neutrality, they just agree not to actively pursue war with each other at the moment
>>583459578
>>583459528Because Magatha Grimtotem and Katrana Prestor are both staging falseflag attacks in the area.
Will shamans ever get thunderstorm? It's the only fun ability in the game
>>583459645speak for yourself, I self insert as the orc
>>583459710if they looked anything remotely like that in reality it wouldn’t be the least played in the game
As a sky-touched shen’dorei elf I can understand how intolerance and prejudice can take root
>>58345956328 here
>mages get their own city>other people can visit but mages have a teleport at level 50 and its going to primarily be their class hub>its alliance onlyits not fair
>>583459871The Horde stands with Tom Ellis.
>>583459917My Orc Mage will call out this prejudice
>>583459917Deserved for all the mage nerfs.
>>583459814>>583459743Why is Dalaran, capital of a human Kingdom of Kirin Tor, a neutral city?
>>583459917dont worry hordlet, you will get Ogre mudhutistan with designated shitting streets
>>583459861I think femdwarf models look great. Not as 'sexy' as others for sure but that kinda adds to the already well made male and female dwarf model's aesthetic appeal. I am a gnome, however, so their build might just work better when you perceive them as bigger.
>>58345956353 here
>nerf an entire way of leveling (that is genuinely fun if you have a group of bros talking over discord while doing it) because of bots/rmt>nerf mage into the ground because of bots/rmt>takes a week to do any action against streamers openly buying gold on the beta (don't even ban ziqo just remove his gold) and only do it after the metric pr shitstorm it was causing>"don't worry guys, we are going really hard on bots and rmt this time!"Every change they made seems to tell me they actually aren't going to do that though. Why ban gdkp, shit all over dungeon xp (inb4 "muh meta way of leveling" no one cares, only people with groups of friends or streamers who can instafill groups do it), and kill mage+all other aoe if bots are going to be banned and gold buyers/sellers banned?
>>583459917It would be a bit odd if horde had both quests to murder dalaran mages and the ability to go to dalaran and hang out
why aren't night elves neutral?
>>583459917It'd be fun if undead mages had a unique race/class quest to break into dalaran and get their personal belongings back.
>>583459675Have you? PvP is completely dead in retail.
Is it impossible to make a pleasant looking dwarfette?
Ya’ll done pulled the nut right up outta me, on God!
>>583459917makes complete sense in the lore. its no different than druids having moonglade rogues having ravenholdt and other classes having uhhhh
>>583459528>>583459998>>583460052the answer to all three questions is greenskin chimpouts
>>583459917good, fuck horde players
>>583459596yes and it becomes retarded once you get penance
Moonglade should be Alliance only too btw
>>583460052The bounce on Orc dick so they basically are
Any websites or addons cataloging which trash packs can be skipped in dungeons?
>>583460038>Nerfed dungeonsAbsolutely fucking not. They just remade dungeon leveling to reward doing multiple instead of one repeatedly. Then they added more dungeons to support that change. The only issue I worry about is twinking, as so many new 19/29/etc blues is going to remake their BiS across the board. But the dungeon change is a good change, imo. I don't like SM graveyard that much, dawg.>>583459917Seethe, I will be a human female mage and DPS for my stud human male warrior.
We need 3 factions and they should be like thisNight ElfOrcTaurenTrollHumanDwarfGnomeUndead
By next year we might already have a decomp of wow forever and be able to run this shit with bots easy. Things are looking great.
I'm "forced" to play Alliance, rate my Race/Class combo... be honest.>>583456376>so now that asmon is rolling PvE server are you switching?Source? Damn.. Alliance sucks (beta) and it will be much worse without the Roach King and his minions...
>>583460329>hunter dwarf>warlock gnomeOther I'm fine with. I'm rating them just from aesthetics btw
>>583459998its not, horde isnt welcomed back into dalaran until the blood elf sunreavers convince that they will help fight the lich king.the horde have to "attune" to even get into the dungeon portion with a key with them sneaking in whereas the alliance can just walk in
>>583460052Nelves are the NIMBY faction. They're fine with humans deforesting, dwarves mining and gnomes irradiating the land as long as it's not done where they can see it.
when the fajitas come out sizzlin
How to fix the races>warstomp 2 second cast time>cannibalize cannot be used in combat>Remove shatter curse>increase resource cost reduction of eureka for non-mana users>human racial gives stun and disorient immunity for 3 seconds>night elf speed stacks with all other forms of speed increases (not mounts)>dwarves get 2% mace crit>allaince skelf can be shaman>horde skelf can be mages>orcs can no longer be mages
Why are horde players so hellbent on turning the game into a proxy for their IRL political obsessions?
>>583459578You now remember the original succubus model.
>>583460329NE hunter, rest are ok
>>583455789>>other races fit respective class fantasies better, it only feels good to be a sky elf hunter, rogue, or maybe mage (LARPing as a high elf)sky elf elemental shaman also fits well
>>583460329Change dwarf to female and go full human harem, you fucking coward.
>>583459917Nice bait you really got the male human paladins chimping out over this one
>>583460038Dungeon quests still give nearly 2 levels of xp. You can go from RFC to SFK with only stepping into the world to get next dungeon quests and vendor. Don't really know what else you want.
>>583460517>>warstomp 2 second cast timeSo you could CC yourself for as long as the stun lasts? Did a tauren fuck your gf or something?
>>583460551they all went undead this time
>>583460531>Why are horde playersthey have brown skin irl
>>583460561nah its more like 1 and a bit, RFC did give 2 though
guys, the game is literally the same game from 20 years ago, please move on with your life, there's nothing to see here, the gameplay is atrocious
>>583460517Touch of the grave needs to be knocked down to 2% as well, it's insane how OP that shit is.
>>583460621It's an uncapped aoe stun, so the effective stun duration is more than 2 seconds
>583459660>aoe begging for attention at the crack of fucking dawnI genuinely feel bad for you. Just not bad enough to give you what you desperately crave.
ausbros… we just can’t stop winning
>>583460517This is a good start but they have to do something about the horde's inherent terrain advantages in battlegrounds as well. Otherwise we're just gonna be stuck with another 30-70 faction split since nobody wants to play the handicaped faction.
I hate skelves so fucking much.
>>583460707I would say just give it a 60 second internal cooldown instead.
>>583460234No, but there are a few that let you mark a persistent dungeon map, so you can determine what can be skipped and which are the most efficient routes and mark it accordingly. Eventually some tank will share his autistically complete notes when people settle on which of these addons is the best.
>>583460430>I'm rating them just from aesthetics btwbased. yeah maybe I'll go with Dwarf or Nelf hunter, but I don't want a Warlock Gnome, Warlock is one of my favs. I don't want a Gnome as main.>>583460537>NE hunter, rest are okMaybe, fem Nelf is cool>>583460547>Change dwarf to femaleI don't like fem dwarf and fem tauren... but my goal is to have every race at least once.
>>583460816Yes. They should flip the sides in AB and AV. Let alliance have the closer entrance to middle and have lumbermill instead of mine.
>>583459917>>mages get their own cityWait what? Is this only for the new blue elves? I don't wanna roll (or pay) for this gay race.
>>583460816who cares though, that just means hordecucks will have 1 hour queues again
>>583460826why
>>583460561When you get to higher levels you gain practically nothing. Like 60% of a level. And sure it's fast now, there is nothing but low levels all trying to run dungeons. What about 2 years from now, when you've done every quest in the game across multiple alts and it takes 5 hours to find a group, and no one wants to run dungeons because it's slower xp than questing, but no one wants to quest either because they've done those quests already 500 times?
>>583460978no it's an alliance hub, npcs attacking alliance non-blue elves was a beta bug fixed two weeks ago
>>583460517You unironically cooked, except with the war stomp, it should be instant.
>>583460707Imagine running a slice n dice rogue with a 10% proc health drain
>>583460978all of the alliance eventually get access to it. alliance mages get a teleport to it at level 50. that is literally all we know right now
>>583460536I prefer the new one, the corset makes her boobs look bigger and less like a demon crack whore with exposed ribcage.
>>583460894Many people don't like gnomes but I think these little gremlins fit a warlock perfectly
>>583460329What's the advantage or skyborne mage over gnome?
>>583461004And they'll retaliate by intentionally wasting everyones time with unoptimal turtling in AV while the GM's do nothing about it. We saw this in Era.
>>583461049What about when you finally realize nobody is falling for your constant doompill trolling outside of /b/ and everyone realizes youre just pissed because your favorite P2W funserver is dead and is never coming back.
why are they like this
BUFFDWARFRACIALS
>>583459917Horde shamans will get the earthen circle base in the maelstrom as their own hub.
>>583460517Need to remove undead priests as well. The whole point of their lore is that ONLY ud paladins can use the light.
>>583461041asspull lore and they heavily conflict with the aesthetic of WoW with regards to their armor/weapons/model (all down rez'd retail stuff). It's also fairly obvious devs felt they needed a "pretty race" to release for Horde.
Wait a minute, this game is basically just gacha in disguise
>>583461212based dwarf chad putting mud hutter in his place
>>583459683That's pretty cool. In the Bael Modan area?
>>583461004i am genuinely worried about queue times for bgs
>>583461212>horde players
>>583460561rmt people are mad, it's a huge business for themiranians running 12 BTs a week in tbc anni, this shit is really lucrative in the third world believe it or notsmall percentage is just boomers who want their game to play itself
>>583458862HellishI don't know why people do this to themselves
>>583461212they're the victim complex factionalways have been
>>583460118no
>>583461325>built like a fridge>not playing female dwarf Can’t relate
>>583461325umm hordebros wtf is this??
>>583459645most cuck posters are troons
>>5834611201% haste bonus
>>583461212>>583461325This is why I'm unsure of going Horde PvP this time. Is it just going to be flooded with trans and lgbt shit? I made a tauren on PvP and Mulgore was filled with "yas" and tons of fag talk. I was shocked.
>>583461338No, I'm just seeing the bigger picture while you're stuck in a freshy vnd fashy mindset like a retard. This game is FOREVER. No one wants to go do 10 hours of fucking barrens questing 3 years down the line. Hopping on to the game with a group of friends and spamming dungeons and getting gear is fun, always has been, fullstop. >b-b-b-but just do the quests broYeah, let me just convince everyone to go run around the world for 3-5 hours between every dungeon and then go through the dumb process of long wait times (messenger) and non-shared quest loot, before we can go back to having fun. Sounds great. Fuck you retard.
>>583461391many are saying this
The absolute worst writer on the retail team that has completely raped several races is now on Forever...
>>583459917don't worry blizzard is letting hordeniggers have broken racials again and are doing nothing to encourage faction balance, instead marketing everything around undead paladins
>>583461452it's not cuck if I self insert as the horde
>>583461519Guarantee this is who brought back Mankrik's wife as a ghost
>>583460052in a real classic+ they might be but this is just a janky retail- that copies shit from Turtle and retail
>>583461519... and the results are amazing! Forever won!
>>583461495yeswhy do you think blizzard gave them another elf race?
>>583461325>this is who's posting all the cuck porn on /vg/grim
>>583461519Why are women incapable of creating good media?
>>583461519
>>583461632jesus...
>>583461504yes, it is forever so they will keep adding content also on mid levelsyou can go swipe in era, they even have gdkp there. tbc anni too, many spellcleave groupsafter 3 years they might as well sell the boost to 60 if the option is spamming dungeons
>>583461556self insert is troon behaviorr
>>583461519These are reading like they're fucking buck broken. Is it insidious? Are they actually now realizing that they're fucked in the social war of WoW, or are they going to be devious and keep writing gay shit?
>horde has both the better players and the transfreaksI feel conflicted and hurt. I don't want to play with the drooling politics obsessed retards, gamerdads, and erp gooners on Alliance. I want to play the cool monster faction that always wins PvP and has good players, but I don't want to be anywhere near an transfreak either.
>>583461519welp the game is fucked
>>583461616why the fuck would they be neutral when george floyds cut down and burned half of ashenvale lmao
>>583461698reminder that this attractive slavic woman bought you over a decade of pserver kino
>>583461519can I get a QRD on who this is and what they've done
>>583461759horde also has every other streamer faggot except asmongold so you will be dealing with streamer cucks too
Glad to see that folder-kun is still finding work
>>583461519Cant wait for Pelagos to become the main focal point of Forever’s narrative!
>>583461698Because men are built for extension and women are built to be pumped full of cum. Women project themselves onto others because they scale on empathy, men seek to understand what is as it is in itself, which is ultimately impossible and why their plight is so tragic.
>>583460692I seriously cannot understand why anyone would want to relevel to 20 multiple times in this shit. I've gone through Elwynn and Redridge probably 20 times before this point.
>>583461519filling it in right now
>>583461735>one is gameplay that people can enjoy if they want, with the added bonus of RMT being banned so no boosting shit (you do believe blizzard when they say RMT is getting banned, right bro?)>you don't have to do it at all nor does it take away from your experience with the game that other people are doing it>this is somehow akin to having a level boost on the storeYou are brain damaged. You have never had fun. You probably have never even actually leveled to 60. I have 9 level 60s on era. I have played Vanilla private servers since 2012. I played in 2006. I have never once paid for any gold nor boosted. HOWEVER I do enjoy getting a dungeon spam group going because it's FUN and it's EMERGENT GAMEPLAY for GAMERS. Get that through your thick nigger skull before I blow it smooth off your body.
>>583461698creating good narratives requires high degrees of empathy to be able to insert yourself into your characters and their environment
>>583461519>Sarah Cotner is a Senior Game Designer on World of Warcraft. She has worked on Heritage Armor acquisition in Battle for Azeroth, led on the Maldraxxus Campaign and the Draka and Thrall questline in Shadowlands, and was the main patch point on Embers of Neltharion.[1]none of these have any homo npcs in them, though of course they are full of quirk chungus style writing, but it could be worse, trust me
>>583461920schizo but true
>>583461997you are iranian rmt bot hahaha
>>583461519is this the woman who wrote the sylvannas story where she became a villain in the most hamfisted cartoonishly evil way possible but in the end she was actually subverting expectations and was doing it all to stop the jailer and people were calling it like half a year in advance and saying how absolutely retarded it was only for them to get defensive on twitter before the story reveal even happened that proved everyone rightor was that somebody else
>>583461519i take it she made the quest in org that has you go and gather weeds for some fucking reason?
i have no motivation to hit 30 because it wont let me progress further in fishing anyway
>>583461834>attractive
>>583462082But women have high degrees of empathy? So that doesn't really help.
>>583460329This is my Horde list, what do you think?>What's the advantage or skyborne mage over gnome?I want to have each race at least once, I don't care too much about racials, but I still consider them.
>>583461837>volunteered to take over the entire direction of the worgen/Gilneas story where she proceeded to throw all their vibes and lore away, said that Genn built the Greymane Wall "because he was sad inside", the hyped up long awaited Reclamation of Gilneas is about 10 minutes long and she wrote Tess Greymane based on one of her friend's AnduinxTess fanfics>did the epilogue story for the Kirin Tor after Xal'tath blew up Dalaran, everyone is sad and depressed but the true moral of the story is that Dalaran was actually kind of icky and bad because Kel'thuzad was once part of them and also they built a mana bomb out of nowhere in secret, it ends by telling you to get over it and absolutely DO NOT feel negative emotions or feelings about it being destroyed>created the crippled secret ancestor of Lothar dindu who is without exaggeration, worshiped by Danath Trollbane the second they meet>did the Eversong revamp in Midnight, which completely destroys all their characterization and doubles down on them being sissy gay high elves but it's good this time, she also did the elven unity story in the endgame where the historic split between blood and high elves is resolved in TWO quests where they bond over the memory of Anasterian, the king who is the main reason they split in the first place
>>583462156>or was that somebody elsethat was Steve Danuser, the narrative lead designer for Shadowlands / Dragonflight
>>583462232one of these things is not like the others
>>583462232UD warrior, UD lock, Orc shaman
>nerf dungeon xpGreat, the quests are fun>nerf the questsBut why? Sure at level 13 you get good xp, but I just did Excavation and went from level 27 to level 27. I don't even want to imagine how much a waste of fucking time doing ZF or ST will be. The xp was only "overpowered" at low levels when your xp bar was pathetically tiny. And there literally isn't even any new content at these levels besides the dungeons anyway. No new zone until like level fucking 40. I don't want to do these old ass quests anymore and was genuinely hyped that I could skip 1-30 just doing the bare minimum of getting dungeon quests together.
>>583461920truke
>>583461495Leftoids associate with Horde nowadays because they see something evil or oppressed and highly emphasize with it. Also, the ONLY officially sponsered LGBT event in the game is a Horde pride parade where everyone makes Trolls to attend it.
>>583462084The wiki article is out of date, she made Rommath a homo in Midnight and asks around for fanart of him with his boyfriend on bluesky
>>583462294>UD warrior, UD lock, Orc shamanKEK so basically UD whenever it's possible and anti skelf
>>583461519retail minus
>>583462132>you are iranian rmt bot hahahaYou forgot an "an" there SAARImagine larping all day as a white person and calling other people brown, pathetic.
>>583462217no
>>583462385pretty much, im not even anti skelf just UD is that good and orc shamans rule
>>583462232orc lock, trust me
>>583462232i dont think ive ever seen a troll warlock
>>583461519I keep finding more and more reasons to continue not giving Blizzard money for anything
>>583462339making the retail pride event horde only is such a gigantic shitpost that it almost seems like blizzard devs are self aware of the bad joke situation they are in
>>583458862selling mob tags in a beta is fucking deranged.
>>583462329dont worry anon, i'm sure them hyper optimizing levels 1-20 will make sure we'll be clear sailing all the way to 60!
>>583462619Welcome to modern gamers. Everything is hyper-optimized and everything is about how it can make you money. Fun is optional.
rapin you be easy mon
>"LFM for [quest or dungeon]!">ask them for invite>no invite
>>583462504>orc lock, trust meI like orc locks, but I also like trolls and I just have 1 fucking troll. I wanted to go for troll shaman, but then I have no Skelf.>>583462529>i dont think ive ever seen a troll warlockI like that combo
>>583462671she's asking for it mon
>>583460547Why are femdwarf poster(s) in this thread such weird trannies?
>>583461778that was a felenraged Grom Hellscream, the same Night Elves later allied with Thrall and the humans, joining a bunch of kingdoms on another continent is retarded for a faction written as isolationists
>>583462701>oh it must have filled>20 seconds later>LFM>ask for invite again, say specifically I do not want their loot>silence>another 20 seconds>LFM
>>583461698>Why are women incapable of creating good media?Men and women approach imaginative play differently, and the distinction starts pretty young.Boys are more likely to go, "I am Batman," while girls are more likely to say, "This is Emma. Emma lives here, and this is her sister..."In other words, boys tend to put themselves in the role of an imaginary character, while girls are more likely to create imaginary companions and build out their lives.Once you notice that pattern, it becomes pretty easy to spot which parts of WoW were designed by a woman. The new camping feature is an obvious example.
>>583462437rmt bot mad, sorry you might have to get a real job if you survive the bombsera is still there, you can make some nice cash in gdkp
>>583462571Oh I thought he was trolling. This is real?
>>583462232tauren hunter troll rogueI like the idea of troll lock but honestly the more I think about how awkward it will look on the felsteed (the orc does too) the more I lean towards undead
>>583462797orcs are cutting trees there to this very day you dumb cunt
When are they adding this body type to Worlo Forlo that isn't a furry race??
>>58345956328
How are rogues looking in forever anyway, I had one on the hardcore servers I liked a lot before he died to a DC
>>583462947Why the fuck would I be trolling?
>>583462248jfc it's over
>>583462619Shaman have instant tagging shocks with a 20 yard range. The issue is that the quest is for mobs about 8 levels above them and I'm guessing the mobs keeps resisting. Even still, 2 shaman shocks would probably give a good chance to tag the mob. So basically, JUST GROUP UP.
>>583463017>perfect doesn’t exis-
>>583462947https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Darkspear_Dash
>>583463112>liking fat batchesSickening.
>>583461284Nah they're fine and solve BOTH the high elf and blood elf demand>just don't add themLike it or not they're massively popular
THEYRE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE MOJO THATS TURNING THE FRICKIN TROLLS GAY
>>583462619beta testing demand for the tag and the price they can charge, also to fuck with the foreverpvp fags
>>583461837Basically the reason retail turned into a yassqueen simulator
>>583461519I'm not exaggerating when I say you should abandon all hope seeing this. This person has done nothing but fail upwards for close to a decade and treats Warcraft like a cozycore toddler's cartoon. She probably wrote the "NO MANKRIK VENGEANCE IS LE BAD" ghost.
please blizzard i have 10 children 4 wives and 6 dogs i can only play for exactly 2 hours and 12 minutes every saturday so how do you expect me to compete with unemployed nerds playing 20 hours a day? please help blizzard and think of players like me
>>583460118Looks like an ICE protester
>>583461519honestly, we are all nypa I get it, but we need to signal boost this to asmon. only his influence and audience is loud enough to make sure this bitch gets kicked off the team. get him all the facts and every quest this woman wrote, get someone to make a video on it, get him to react to it, get him to blow it up. we need the roach king to save forever and i'm tired of pretending he's a bad guy
>>583463364Sorry bud you need to put down one of dogs as we can only cater to people with 2 hours and 30 min every week
Give me your population predictions once things go live in November and settle inWhat percentage of players will be skelves?What will the most and least popular classes be? Will the percentages be similar to the beta, or are people just testing stuff out?
>>583463426>dwarf protestor moments before being shot for trying to run over mountaineers with her ram
>>583463017I like me some thicc girls
>>583462701>>583462806>Hunter POV
part 2 droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB3SNj2jv08
>>583463525Horde will be at least 50% skelves
>>583463052according to the devs they are going to be the highest single target dps in the game. currently they stole the disguise system from turtle, which is fun for gold farming (like right now you can disguise yourself as a scarlet crusade member and walk freely in the dungeon as long as you don't cast any combat spells and loot chests for free). mutilate seems fun, we'll have to see how strong poisons are. and they will always be fun in pvp if you like being a rat
Which Alliance race do (You) recommend for PvE, PvP and Style?
>>583462701>>583462806Literally humiliation ritual fuck that. We need a dungeon finder.
>>583463017real women dont look like that incel
>>583462329>I don't even want to imagine how much a waste of fucking time doing ZF or ST will be.I can tell you. On alliance ZF quests would give this much in classic:6300710052503900605052503900=37 750prior to quest nerf this would've been 141 600 expIf you were to complete them at level 44, you'd gain 1 level and 30% into the next one. Now you will "only" gain 89 700 exp which will get you 84% of a level. One dungeon run for an almost entire level. Not bad.
>>583463609*mag dumps you*
>>583463609It actually makes me mad that the retarded bitch misspelled the guild name. HO LIM PISS not HO LIP MISS and I don't even play alliance or care about any of these people, it just irks my autism like nothing else.
>>583463639then I'd be forced to play with RETards so no
>>583463481I’m not a mean person so I don’t want to make her life hard.
>>583463609Kino they be pumping that shit out
>>583463738
>>583463576thats clearly mage pov in his cuck block as my pet stares at him confused
>>583462619Average classic player behavior, same people that created an extreme world buff raidlog GDKP unculture that killed their game
>>583463753You're why we have wokies ruining gaming
>>583463671they literally do retard
>>583463707Like what do they want? Almost a full level post 42, for ONE dungeon run where you can also get gear? God forbid you find a group to make the mallet this time. What's that, overworld grouping content?? How dare you?!
>+25% cooking speed wand>No level restrictionMore like WoW keep that situational cantrip item in your bags Forever
>>583462329because they just realized everyone was gonna do that because it was super fast and efficient leveling skipping most of this "Forever" game then started panicking and now we're here with some half thought out leveling path that has most people doing le fun vanilla questing that's about to get flipped on it's head by guide selling faggots and instantly have the soul sucked out of it by min/max troons
>>583463738>mag>on a revoler
This layering is aggressively bad, how did it get worse than classic?This realmless shit is honestly the worst idea they've had this garbage will not be ready for launch.
>>583461519>>583462248>>583463481this please for the love of god, we have something here that could be amazing and actually gives me something to be happy about after I quit playing all blizzard games in 2017. don't let these fucking trannies and foids ruin it please god please
>>583463864This wasn't an issue on private servers.
>>583462619beta has gold vendors.. what the fuck. deranged
>>583463896where are her intestines?
>>583463969She writes as if she's been buck broken, so I remain hopeful. Sounds like she's tearing up as she's saying she had to make a murloc kill quest.
>>583463969>trannies and foidsReminder that the blue elves were Metzen's idea. Blizzard is fundamentally rotten to the core.
>>583458862does frostfire bolt benefit from both the fire and frost /+ dmg +hit talents/ in both trees?
If alliance mages get dalaran as a class hub then horde warlocks should get silvermoon which at this point in the story is a ghetto full of fel-snorting withered crackheads
>>583464107yeit's a frost and fire spell, so it benefits from anything that says frost and fire, which means you can giga buff it and become a 1 button machine
>>583464012Which is why I said "classic"The average classic player is a streamer obsessed subhuman who uses guides for everything and "optimizes" his game until it's nothing more than a weekly checklist
>>583462993this is a discussion abour alternative timelines dipshit
>>583464107yes there's basically no reason to go deep fire now since fof > comb
>>583464202feels good to be optimal, subhumans wouldnt get it
>>583463525horde 50% undead retardin/rogueall pvp niggas play orc because it is extremely overtuned so about 30% orc15% skelf because lots of people wont buy them5% tauren troll combinedalliancehuman 35% and most of them retardinsnelf 25% mostly huntardsskelf 20%gnome for pvp even if it was already nerfed 15%dwarf 5% and almost every single one a shaman nobody plays this garbage willinglyoverall split 70% horde 30% alliance and pvp server will be locked for horde char creation permanently
>>583463881I disagree. Zoomers ruined gaming. They bent over and begged for it. It was over the moment they started getting hyped for full motion movie trailers that never show gameplay. Cows should be treated like cows.
>>583464083Everyone in the know knew Metzen was a stupid faggot for over a decade>green jesus>floplords of draenor>nerfed bikini armor because muh daughter (she doesn't even play video games)>let his 90s OC (soldier 76) get turned into a queer by the overwatch team, claps for them as they do it>wrote the outline for BFA before peaceing out of the companyI can't believe how many retarded goyim and streamertards were sucking Metzen's cock off like crazy whenever they hear his name. It's like they didn't all just spend the last 20 years playing the same game as we all did.
>>583463481he's just going to ignore it because wow bumps his stream up by 10-20k viewers
What do you think she's up to?
>>583464252I'm already optimal IRL. The white man should challenge himself in games.
>>583462619This wouldn't happen on smaller servers. A lot of antisocial (and asocial) behavior is caused by large servers. This is no different from human behavior in cities. Humans are meant to live in smaller communities.
>>583464284are you that one local agp troon that hates dwarves for no reason? dwarves have been around 20% of the alliance in the past iterations of WoW so I can already safely say you are wrong
>>583464083Skyborne are the best written extra race since TBC, and only for Blood Elves. Eredar Draenei were Night Elves with crystals.
>>583464383he also turned diablo female and wrote kerrigan saves the universe plotline
>>583463864why did soddy die the moment they banned gdkp?
>>583464284>15% skelf because lots of people wont buy them>skelf 20%The beta, which most people got into by buying skelves, has a 20% skelf percentage. Now imagine what happens when literally everyone else starts to play, especially when their racials are the worst ones.
>>583461495biggest reason troons go horde is female orc, they literally look like a tranny.
>>583462701If you are dps don't be surprised. Especially if hunter or rogue.Warrior tanks don't want to share gear with you.Sometimes they just already have the class you are though, or somebody with a higher level beat you to it.The remedy is to put on your big boy pants and form your own group
>>583462619As a hunter I can tag the mob and sell it to the highest bidder, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay. If nobody was willing to pay I just wouldn't do it. Now explain to me how this wrong (pro tip: you can't).
>>583464485true, our psychology maxes out at 200 people, we are not able to care about more people than that
>>583464383I remember when he started crying about how his daughter shouldnt have to need to see bikini armor etc. Same thing that EA exec did when they added female soldiers to battlefield and he claimed "how can I explain to my daughter why she cant see herself in the game". I genuinely think these people are mentally deranged
>>583464619Because sod was already shit and that was the last straw for the shiteaters who were sticking around
WoW truly a lorefull Vanilla-like writing and totally not something you would read today on Twitter or Tiktok. Totally different writing style from Retoilet yes
>>583464635lots of women and faggoty males will want to play cute elf no matter how bad it is
i cant choose between priest, hunter or warlock, fucking hell i just want some fun on a pvp server and all of those classes look fun
>>583464083they were not that was misleading bullshit spread from troons trying to downplay how bad Sky Elves were and that Aggrend was responsible for them, all Metzen did was say "go crazy with it" the pitches were thought up by Aggrend and co
wow...!!!!!!!!!!
>>583464767Worse than this was Mankrik's wife's ghost giving him closure. That's FAR more atrocious.
>>583464887The legacy system encourage you to level all 3 So it's just a matter of who to level first
>>583463950>revolveranon...
>>583459139if it's the same tech they use for retail launches it'll be fine, they'll just launch countless layers unless you're on moonguard rp with a single layer, unsure how those work on forever
>>583464887spriest wont be in the raid so unless you want to heal that is outhunter is massively overpopulated and also the botters go to choice so bad reputation is going to hurt youwarlock is underplayed especially on alliance because orc and undead lmao
>>583464907Ok but my point still stands: it is not just the trannies and foids doing this shit.
>>583464416training a shota to be her foot stool
>>583460038WoWF is SoD- with all that implies, AKA fucking play like blizzard wants you to, or get the FUCK out.I can ensure you someone will find a meme spec the new talents allow, and it will get instantly gutted into the dust because "you aren't meant to play like that."
>>583464619>why did soddy die the moment they banned gdkp?"People" actually believe this?
>>583464767Did she mean to say "i've heard less than favorable things about undead"? What could she have heard badly about Paladins?>oh no people who serve the light and follow a strict code of honor and justice and save the living from mindless zombies oh the humanity!Like what? Bitch shut the fuck up. Paladins would do nothing towards a random race of blue elves.>inb4 garithosThese high elves have been separated from Azeroth for thousands of years before WC3 according to the Metzen™ Approved™ Lore™
>>583464416ever single one of your images is from the exact same angle and looks exactly the same
>>583461698Amy Hennig wrote Legacy of Kain, Uncharted, and TLOU1
>>583465063They specifically said that they appreciate emergent gameplay and reintroduced Power Shifting, which is ADHD retard level shit, in addition to the Wolfshead Helm being BiS AGAIN. If the MCP is also BiS with the batteries, I'm gonna flip.
>>583464565believing that blood elves who literally traitored the fuck out of the horde and whose whole zone includes killing scourge zombies is the best written starter zone when death knights and worgen exist is absolutely fucked. this is honestly the type of mush brain that probably kept playing after wotlk.
>>583461519Well, go and bully that fucking whore out of the team again?
>>583464619Because SoD had previously brought us "Blackfathom Deeps Best in Spot Guide", which was the moment I completely lost all interest in SoD
>>583459917Good we need more faction-exclusive areas and cities. Horde will get Zul'Aman or something eventually
>>583465218That is them specifically making the spec play in the way they intend anon.Reading comprehension, please.
>>583465063>I can ensure you someone will find a meme spec the new talents allow, and it will get instantly gutted into the dust because "you aren't meant to play like that."Already happening in the Blizzard offices themselves. >dev finds a fun build to play healer shaman as mostly enhance with the haste talent at the end of it's tree>instantly delete it from the game instead of just buffing resto's healing throughput to offset the haste and giving the player the option to choose either fast small heals or slow big healsThe only reason they are allowing Ret+Shock to exist is because the devs created that path intentionally. Anything unintentional that players discover will get snipped. Fucking faggot developers I swear to christ, it's the complete anti-thesis to the "emergent gameplay of classic wow" they keep pretending to praise.
chuds won the battle and then promptly lost the war. that means doomfags were the real victors.
>>583465125Paladins are racist nazi chud white supremacist coded you facist pig!
nice battleground blizzard, bug free
>>583465218I'm glad feral is still a spec you need to be mentally ill to play so I can avoid anyone who plays it :)
>>583464887warlock if horde, hunter if alliance. priest is just spamming dispell/renew/dots/mindblast/flay, very unengaging
>>583465125Keep in mind the retail writers working on Forever are coming off Midnight, which is a giant LIGHT BAD expansion but they forgot to actually give you any reasons why you'd ever want to support the void over the Light
>>583465364its a beta, you're the bugtester anon
>>583465218>If the MCP is also BiS with the batteriesHighly unlikely since weapon damage effects form damage now.
>>583465125I think she'd hear from the forsaken she's amongst that the scarlet paladins hunt down forsaken. of course she'd only hear bad things.
>>583461519>this retard still has a jobYeah nothing changed, golden still writing their gay ass storyline too?
>>583465339Lmao, already happened?
>>583459578>YWNB a novice warlock that summons his succubus for the first time and is flustered by her constant teasing and sexual advancesWhy live?
>>583465453Yeah it was in one of their podcasts I believe. I think it was the Xaryu one.
>>583465280lmao where are all of you sjw asmontroon viewers? big mouth in trade chat but the moment you need to do something real you cower.
>>583465339>>583465453warrior has >dw leech>gladiator 1h shieldoff specs which hopefuly are OP
>>583465218>Devs will force you to play the game in a specific way>Devs go out of their way to ensure the "blizzard approved way" is the best way to playThat... that proves anon's point.
>>583465330there will always be a BiS list, what difference does it make? i never played a druid in vanilla but i'd be pretty happy to never have to worry about gearing a slot ever again
>>583460038>Every change they made seems to tell me they actually aren't going to do that though>>583460038>because of bots/rmt>>583460038>because of bots/rmtyoure barkin up the wrong tree
Hunter Fire totem worst exp ever. Thanks for beta but im done.
>>583465559Where is the glad spec nigga?
>we love emergent gameplay and all the fun people have had with vanilla over the years!>but don't you dare ever step off the quest treadmill to do dungeons or use an unapproved spec, chud!
>>583465218turtle solved that by just making basically the same ability into a leatherworking enchant.
>>583465356Great, now I HAVE to play a Paladin.
Shaman lvl 30 weapon quest is not worth ithttps://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wy3cza/shaman_level_30_weapon_is_not_worth_doing_from_a/
>>583462619If you are against this then you are anti-capitalist by the way.
>>583465805>redditgo back
>>583465218>reintroduced Power ShiftingWhat they introduced was a cooldown that gives you 40 energy. On the other hand, they explicitly killed bearweaving because it wasn't intended.
>>583465842l2r
>farming leveling dungeons for gearAnything more onions? All your shit will be replaced by 60.
mmm frobstfir bolthttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/mage/v2-0055203003003314-00550003310003002_t0/1C2C1EDGKPrQssss2DJHkQT
https://classicplus.io/>>583465919this is NOT classic where you rush to 60
>>583464917This looks ass. Hyjal wasn't created with its silhouette in mind.Something that WoW always should've been doing is putting painted 2D on the horizon to show major landmarks in other zones. Nobody would notice or care if it looks different from the actual zone.
>>583465982>wah wah Cry more faggot
>>583465805Are we just posting reddit links now?https://www.reddit.com/r/BoyDinnerDiaries/comments/1wliqbt/hiv_positive/
>>583465702You can do non-approved things, you will just be severely punished and left behind little chud, as you should.
>>583466047You are incapable of reading go figure
>>583465842Lmao /wowfag/ is more reddit than 4chan. You guys have been fellating nuBlizz’s femme cawks like Ive never seen before.
>>583466047I am NOT clicking that link nigga
>>583464917Stuff like this makes the world feel smaller to me since it removes any illusion that the world is round. Same thing with the sword in Silithus in retail
>>583465429why are we only testing the first half of the game then?
>do dungeons once then go back to optimized quest routesunironically a good setupthat was the leveling meta in pre-2019 pservers and it only changed because classic dungeons were extremely easy compared to nostcore (which caused the zoomercleave epidemic)
>rmt bannedgood, if they actually do it>gdkp bannedhow do raiders make money then?>just farmno, my life doesn't revolve around playing this game 14 hours a day
>>583465919No you see, the behavioral pattern of leveling up to enjoy the end game will be interrupted in this version of the game where people will just not do it and instead spend weeks to months slowly doing all dungeons to get bissed out every 10 or so levels... because...WELL IT JUST FUCKING WILL YOU NAZI CHUD PIECE OF SHIT STOP QUESTIONING THE DIVINITY OF BLIZZARD AND AGGREND!!!
>>583466174>how do raiders make money then?play the game?>no, my life doesn't revolve around playing this game 14 hours a daythats a shame maybe mmos arent for you
>>583466047H…how’d you find my post?!
>>583465951Where's your ice block bro?
>>583465953>he's going to fall behind the pack on the final freshlole
>>583465531That was genuinely how I felt when I first summoned mine as a teen kek
>>583466174RMT isn't banned lmao.GDKP isn't banned lmao (you just have to be part of the clique).It actually will, that's why wow forever is kino.
>>583465805>>583465842I'm IP banned from reddit :(
>>583466047>this is what the average "orced/knotted" spammer looks like
>>583465919I would farm dungeons for blues while leveling as a tank player because its super fast to put a group together, but XP is fucked so doing a single quest run is the only thing I will do. If I don't get item drops, then it's whatever. I still will not invite any class that potentially rolls on the items I need
>>583465951>frostfire bolt is lvl 40argh////
>>583465953yes it is, even more so, you rush 60 and do alts with fed crafting gear/legacy etc
>>583466306just reset your ip
>>583465280it's not really possible because the mentality ill feminists that took over the company genuinely believe that depressed women on tons of meds that killed herself was because of "fratboy" Blizzard culture bullying her to death, none of that was ever proven by the California lawsuit btw, but anyway the hostile takeover happened in SL and they run the company now and they have been purposely defacing and vandalizing the franchise since then because of that aforementioned psychotic belief centered around the conspiracy of global dominance of a single gender
>>583466113>removes any illusion that the world is roundGoy believes world is round lmao
>>583466113Yeah, they're trying to do the open world vista thing like in elden ring or botw where you see a landmark in the distance and know you'll be exploring it 30 hours later. But in this case the landmark is a generic low poly tree. I think vanilla wow's zones are so iconic that it plays more to their strengths to keep the illusion of being visually isolated inside of them intact.
>>583466360No it is not this is forever, go play classic if you want to rush its right there
>>583466396Azeroth is canonically round, it's not Earth
>>583466174>how do raiders make money then?You serious? Play the game outside of raids
>>583465805>the quest that is supposed to be done at 35+>isnt worth doing at 30has this mf ever played a warrior
>>583466434That's what goblins want you to believe
>roll shaman, be DPS, smack things with my auto swim 90% of the time and use totems>get new weapon upgrade that isn't a type I have at max proficiency>miss miss miss 1 miss parry 1 miss missI have never played a noncaster before, It feels like I'm playing a different game.
>>583465052do people actually play as these
WOW forever needs a 3rd faction for proper pvp. Give us murlocs nagas and then some pretty race to get all the coomers normies.
>>583466429but this is classic+ that means its now rushing+ which is better than rushing
>>583466429Rushing to 60 is objectively the best play. The legacy points are minmax requirements to play too, so you'll want to get one of each class boosted to 60. You'll also want to buy enough gold to level all the professions to 300 on a character.
>>583466548You're a bit slow so i'll help you:Play classic this is not classicThere there
>>583466505Sall good we've all been thereIf it's a good enough weapon to justify it, just keep swinging at green/grey mobs for 30 min to get that proficiency up. This is sovlfriction
>>583465702suspiciously Ion centric manic thought patterns maybe he has more to do with this than they're letting on or the producer is just copying Ion
>>583466598classic = rushingclassic+ = rushing+
>>583466598In classic era you could play 1 character and take your time. Due to meta achievements and points you'll need to go fast, boost, and buy gold if you don't want to get left behind by everyone that plays 24/7
>>583466673>>583466578This is not your game, play retail or classicForever is for us
>>583466684its worse, if you miss first raid lockout you are fucked, thats 1 or more less rolls on the 0.01% drop chance chase items>>583466718yeah for us, the people that play all day everyday
torn between male human survival hunter or female gnome arms warrior
>>583466801For the non rushers for the slow goersRushers should go classic
>>583466854flip a coin
>>583466854male human hunter is better, like imagine playing a midget
>>583466115because it's important to polish the first part so new players, which forever is entirely for, don't bounce off as fast. Once they are already invested they are much more lenient toward bugs
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
>watching all these people hyperoptimize their game and gameplan long before releaseIt's like watching a slow-motion car crash, you can see what's obviously coming. People are so fucking retarded kek
>>583466921>>583466921they gave us sight
>>583466887well we arent and you can deal with it, we will be asking for gearscore by january
just take it slow :)then get camped by skull-level chuds in pvp for 3 hours :)then don't have enough gearscore to get into any karazhan crypts group and quit :)enjoy the journey ;))
>>583466801>30 days til launch >hasn’t memorized every new mechanic and planned the most efficient route to 3 60s with max professions by week 3It’s like people don’t even want to succeed.
I will not rush.I will not minmax.I will play at my own pace and enjoy my time in the worldMy life is fulfilling enough that I feel no need to compete with a bunch of asocial misanthropes.
>>583466952People are retarded, or the devs are retarded for building a new version of the game that requires even more hyper optimization than the previous version.
I will be farming for rare drops in low level areas to see if things drop anything neat and no I will not look up drop tables online and I won't be using any addons.
>>583466373everything is possible if enough people complain. money talks.
>>583466174>just farm>what, like play the video game? Fuck man how do I pay a third worlder a handful of pocket lint to do that for me illegally??>Newsom 2028!
>>583466973"You" people are gonna cry about how bored you are a week after releaseMeanwhile Us foreverchads are gonna cruise
>>583465953>filter out low level trash and bank altssuddenly tells a different story entirely doesnt it
>>583466985most people will take it slowthe typical gogofast chud who rush to 60 dont do it to greykill, they do it to farm pvethere is no gearscore
>>583467025going to take my 60, kill your bird so you have to feed him again, then gank you
>>583467105why would i be bored after a week, we have 20 slots for characters and i need to have not only alts for legacy points, i also need multiples of my main for split runs
>>583460038>>583465063The class podcasts definitely show that they're trying to engineer the meta, which, on top of being the gayest way to balance your game pretty much never works and is a constant war between devs and players to squash any fun. They killed Smite priest because someone might have fun with it and do great damage when judgement of the crusader is up which is a no-no because you can still heal or something. Even though the mana system is the direct antidote to healers contributing DPS or vice versa. It's like having a chess board in front of you but some faggot is over your ear saying "NO! you HAVE to take that knight with your bishop"
>>583467173What you need is your ADHD meds
>>583467112Dwarfchads, we won.
>>583466895might be what it takes>>583466896i used to hate gnomes but i tried one and it wasn't awful
>>583467120>there is no gearscore>he is unaware
>>583467025I will keep my professions lined up with my character level.I will assist people with quests even if it doesn't help me.I will carry camp items and place camps outside of highly used areas or caves.
>>583466718>SAAAR!!! SAAAR YOU ARE STUPID BENCHOD YOU MUST NOT PLAY LIKE THAT!!!
>>583467112>dwarf is 18% of the alliance characters>undead is 30% of horde>but we're supposed to believe undead paladins dont make up a larger share than dwarf shamans
>>583467120gearscore was an addon before it was added into the game by default, it will just be an addon again>>583467207i take them to grind to 60
>>583466973>januaryWe are asking for GS by Nov 3.Forever is nolifer's paradise, I'm personally expecting my raid to1. Have 3k R.io 2. Purple parses OR BETTER3. Full legacy points4. Capped out GS Otherwise you just aren't rolling for the chase items!
>>583467283>>583467232
>>583467112>60% of players are some form of humanBASED
I will>rush to 60>buy gold>buy boosts>stream on twitch for ban immunity >HR items I want in all of my groups>Get preraid bis week one>camp low level players week one on my 100% mount
>>583467112>>583467253They need to make orc racials even more OP. Humans and orcs should be the most populated races of their respective factions.
>>583467120https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/gearscore-forever"Take it slower!" cucks are going to become living sperm and scat toilets yet again. The most cucked and "fell for it" race of subhumans.
>>583467395*on era
>>583467395holy basedthis is what classic is all about!
>get to the barrens>delete my horde character
>>583467338i was being lenient on the people who dont have guilds set to pump, and giving time for the addon to spread, its a mega server so they might get groups without it for awhile
The levitate racial on skelf is actually fun
>that samefagging
>>583467232>do NOT GEAR SCORE ME SAAR!!>SAAR!!! THIS WAS SLOWER GOER VISHNU PARADISE SAAR!!!>SAAR!!! SAAR DO NOT!!! YOU ARE BLOODY BENCHOD SON OF BITCH!!!
I will check gearscoreI will check wclog parsesI will check your legacy talent pointsI will check you talent buildYou will be excluded.
>waste half your points to make serpent sting usefulthanks blizzard....
>>583465143Retard alert
>>583467253Well yeah. Even though it makes the most sense lorewise, no one wants to be a stupid dwarf especially when there's funner classes to be.
pretty fucked up desu
>gearscore>parses>some raider.io equivalent abominationtake your pickthe community will invent a way to filter (You)
>>583467120>there is no gearscore>there is no gearscore…>THERE IS NO GEARSCORE…Keep repeating it and it might come true… heh hehehe hahaha AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
undead should be their own faction! Forget making deals with horde mudhut retards
>>583467513It's a mega server so it will spread even faster because there is no insular server community.It takes 3 people to go "GS" and everyone will go "Oh well, yeah, I guess that is a thing now".
can't get time off work for the week of the 4th. it's over for me already, i've fallen behind the pack and my account is bricked
https://www.azeroth-brandbook.workers.dev/#shamando they have a good point /wowfags/?
>>583467671>the brown sissies wept in despair as their symbols of station and monuments of hubris were desecrated before their eyes
man I cant wait to play on an rp realm and avoid all of this inane faggotry
>>583467446gearscore is a mistake.
>>583465052Shotas are so lucky
>>583459660Based. Only poorfag incels will seethe.
>>583467801games gonna be unplayable for the first 3,4 days anyway anon
>>583467586>tfw excluding cucks and then, ganking them tooIt will fuck HARD.>>583467453WoW Forever is made for me, while you are being a slowie tardie, I'm camping you.
>>583467156>playing pvpLMAO I'm not retarded bucko, one less player for you to grief
>>583467746depends, because Olympus wont use it they just want to exclude everyone else, so it will spread on horde quicker
>>583467671its so bad having it be epic is just salting the wound
>>583459660>>have wife and 2 kids>>make ~315k combined salary>>own house (no mortgage)>>own 2 cars (no loans)nothing of this is true btw>>583467895>I'm camping you.you're what 25-30+ and you've still not outgrown that highschool behaviour? lol
just take it slow on a pve serveryeah people will exclude youno you shouldn't care unless you're a fomoing retardunless you actually do care and are trying to convince yourself you dont, then maybe fix that one way or another
>>583467671>+1 weapon damageHow game changing is this
>>583467921Terrible epics is the norm for classic. Whoever designed edgemasters probably had no idea how good of an item they made
>>583467957Anyone using gearscore in Forever is a retard, an actual retardThis game was NOT made for youThere's retail now go play in the ballpit!
So now that beta and discussions have been going on for 2 1/2 weeks, 3 major issues crystallized>dungeon exp>spellpower/scaling revamp>sharding/mega realmsFirst could be fixed by an easy numbers tweak if they want to.Second is also a numbers fix, however it's more difficult to solve than dungeon exp.Sharding/mega realms is the biggest issue, and also the least likely to be fixed or changed. Having traditional realms, possibly with the 2019 layer tech, and agressively merging or offering free transfers as the population drops to a stable level would be much prefferable to the near anonymous retail sharding experience we're going to have with mega realms.How are we feeling about launch in light of this?
>>583465091looking more bleak than tbc pop after they announced forever
>>583467994>only retards would use gearscore in foreverbut anon anyone playing this is going to be a retard.
my new favorite hobby in wow since it's just beta is to out-liberal liberals in general chat
>>583467446Gearscore doesn't really work in Niller if it's entirely based off Ilvl like it was on retail. Tons of items in Niller are "bis" even though they were a lower level. Sure blizzard nerfed some, baked some into the class, etc (wolfshead, mcp, edgies), but there will always be something. Like what if that Mr Smite ring is actually BiS for a patch or two? Now everyone with that ring in their BiS has weirdly low gearscore, which to the uninformed retarded masses they will not know anything other than the GS number like some braindead sheep.
>>583467671Still waiting for them to have mail hands that have the 'cannot be disarmed ability.'
>>583468050Why are you ITT
>>583467946you're what 25-30+ and you've still not outgrown that pre-k victim behavior? lol
>>583467671explain why this is bad
>>583460118You telling me you wouldn't a dwarfette?
i WILL buy goldi WILL buy boostsi WILL buy GDKP runsi WILL flex my BiS gear in front of orgrimmar AH
>>583466921it's the smog from the burning dung heaps of orgrimmar
>>583468089loser lol grow up
>>583468103I would any any classic/forever alliance raceit's why i never want draenei or worgen so I can keep the streak up
>>583468112>one race the human race
>>583468047You can see the two massive pop drops in the GDKP ban and the 10 man->20 man changes.>>583468063>b-b-buhLook here is
>>583468112And I will download an addon to hide you and all your messages, you will not exist :)
>>583468112>le swedish horde player face
>>583460118>>583468103Femdwarves just aren't sexy. I still love seeing them in the wild though.
HOLY FUUUUUUCK I CANT GET TO LEVEL 10 ON ROGUE JESUS CHRISTTHEYRE SO SQUISYHTHE DAMAGE IS SHITCOMBO POINTS FEEL LIKE ASSHOW DO I FUCKING DO THIS LADS?HOOOOOOOWWWWW
>>583468063I guess you havent seen the pics of lvl 58+ items yet? Youre gonna be on the ilvl tredmill little gup, think about it critically for a few seconds, blizz knows no other way.
>>583468142t. Pre-k victim
>undead palading gets a blue weapon at lvl 20 after a quest chain that procs up to 300 damage>shamas get a weapon at lvl 30 which is absolute dogshitlmao
>>583468298last you, grow up, touch grass, maybe find a job kiddo
>>583468318Paladin is the protagonist class chuddie
>>583468254>Thinking slowies have critical thinkingPlaying isn't the only thing they are slow at.>>583468245It's okay, you'll be top DPS at 60 (ewe pwomise lol~)!
>>583467804Just make a fucking blog instead of draining a midwestern pond to AI generate your overly masturbatory slopsite
>>583467179this is exactly how retail works, Ion engineers a meta every season and lies and weasels about it, he rigs the vault, he does whatever he can to delay people getting loot and finishing their seasonal goals until players are utterly bitter and fed up every fucking season, nothing he does is honest but he addresses everyone with a fake humble persona that over the years has been figured out, these devs are copying that exact formula
>>583468245>literally the best class 1-10 before paladins got holy strike>now the second best class 1-10Anon...I....I think XIV might be more your speed.
>>583468047Has nothing to do with GDKP
>>583468318Paladin is the hero classShaman is the redheaded stepchild Always been like that, always will be
>>583468459>>583468429BRUHHHHHHHHH
>>583468021Honestly I think the dungeon XP needs to be in a spot where it's not a bad way to level if you want to dungeon grind, but it's also not as good as questing in the overworld.Making mobs give basically nothing was an overreaction and entirely kills a way some people enjoy the game. I prefer just playing dungeons with friends and I'd dungeon spam with them even if it was half as efficient as overworld questing.
>>583468112It really is like the boondocks episode where I can just remember I'm a tall, white, fit male, and then just laugh at anyone who looks like this or who wants to minmax everything. Being BiS IRL really defeats anything negative in life. God is good!
>>583468375I work in HR lol I make sure virgin cucks like (you) don't get jobs ;)I griefed you in game and I grief you as an adult too, your "kind" will always be cattle for me to trample on
thank you for the you
>>583468429> It's okay, you'll be top DPS at 60 (ewe pwomise lol~)!Till the balance patches start coming… heheheheh :3
these boyelves are hot
>>583468318Does the proc scale off holy damage or AP? After Verigan's Fist got buffed to match I tried it on my hpal with a shitload of sp gear and it felt strong, but I don't think I was hitting 300 with it. And for whatever dumbass reason they put "elementals" on it even though there is no fucking elementals besides the bogbeasts in wetlands at this level. Would have been much better as increased damage vs undead especially with all of duskwood.
>>583468241>Femdwarves just aren't sexy.
foreverbros, are we going to be okay?
>>583468458Aggrend was always like that too.You can see this on SoD, people found better builds than the premade ones, and then he goes out of his way to nuke them from orbit.And remember, SoD was meant to be a shitpost "funny" funserver not a serious game. It will be worse on wow forever.
>>583468608yeah undead pallies/horde are being preferred overall
I think femdwarves look the best in HD
>>583468648It's over we are going to go under literal dota2 trash
>>583468675Are they really though? There is no worgen outside of sfk and once you go to hillsbrad you never really see wolves either.
>>583468574Aggwend pwomised! You'll be tipsy topsy dps at level 60! Vs 1 target.Well! Maybe if they remember it teeeheee~
>>583467671look how they massacred my boy
>>583468318paladin wankery + handouts to the george floyd faction are a deadly combolike in the original TBC where only horde could be proper ret dps via seal of blood while alliance got a shitty tanking seal without which horde paladins could tank more or less on the same level
>>583468714They can be cute in both but HD is definitely better overall
>>583468648Big Gold alone would give WoW the #1 spot.
>>583468648We are such gay......................... fucking................... LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>583461519How long until zoomers can purge millennials from the gaming industry?
this dude looks kewl
>583468318>look how wrong and retarded im being>its totally organic i promise>pls give me attentionNo.
>>583468851I'd kiss her.
>>583468871millennials will be in the industry until they are the age of boomers now, in leadership roles, it's unironically ogre for any company that is more than 5 years old
>>583468871Ah yes, zoomtoids, those pillars of true gaming.>give me the most punishing Korean grinder you possibly can>now look the other way as I pay a third worlder to skip the entirety of the grind>now marvel at me as I pretend that never happened and I did the whole thing myself
>>583469016>Describes crybooms
>>583468714dwarf bitch got buccal fat removal
>>583468972>implying you wouldn't be the one getting kissed by the femdwarf
how comfy is it to host your own single player vanilla WoW server?
Have they explained yet how the name reservation is gonna work? I really want to know the specific time
>>583468904Black and brown elves are more immersion breaking than blue elves ever could be.
>>583469101on the 27 you get to create 3 characters
>>583469093It gets lonely unless you populate it with bots. I'd love to drop 10k on a proper server/AI rig and make a whole server to myself with ~100 bots that quest/kill around me (which is probably the most autistic thing I dream about and that's really saying something)
>>583469086yeah, she'll be kissing my tauren donut.
>>583469101you make your character on the server(pve/pvp/rp) you are playing thats it
>>583469086>draw a human>call it a dwarf
>>583469138Wrong, tan elves are perfect.
>>583468972kiss ur downstairs…
>>583468460it just happens that gdkp getting banned is instantly followed by the largest player drop in history
>>583469080>n-no uIt isnt your fault, really. Your formative years were drenched in hyperpredatory monetization practices and your social media sphere is inundated with people insisting you have to spend yourself into poverty trying to show The Gram how rich you are.You never had a fucking chance. The few among you that were able to avoid the traps will be the success stories of your generation.
>>583469378have yet to see someone post a tan cutie
>>583469378They're not tan, they're black people colors. Not drow or anything either.
>>583467671I don't need weapon skill as a paladin because all my abilities are spell damage.
>>583469138trvth nvke.Elves should be white skinned only and their tats should be aryan and neopaganistic.Imagine a Fash'talas Elven Ranger with a sonenrad over her breast, triskelion over her cheek and a swastika tattoo on her hand.Fucking nazi kino.
please bring back gdkp i'm too socially maladjusted to join a guild and i need susanexpress to help me get gear
>>583469520>what i latina cutie>what is arab cutieare you retarded bro
>>58346923210k isn't a lot of money, if you actually dream about it just do it. Retard
>>583468586why are their faces always way to many shades lighter than the rest of the body?
>>583469258Here`s your dwarf waifu, sir.
>>583469481I'm a cryboom lol mald a seethe, us crybooms started the normalization of RMT'ing everything forever.Zoomtroons and Zoglenials had no fucking chance.
>>583460038>nerf an entire way of leveling (that is genuinely fun if you have a group of bros talking over discord while doing it) because of bots/rmtBlizzard's been pretty explicit about why it was nerfed and that's not why. There simply isn't supposed to be another "entire way of leveling" that opts out of playing an MMO.And it's notable that you people never ask for more elite / group-friendly non-instanced content, instead. That would actually be good for the game.
>>583467946Funny enough all of it is true. My wife is currently pregnant too. Im getting paid to shitpost from home right now.
>>583469558
>>583469705Correct, and that is his complain.Blizzard has chosen "how you are meant to play".
we might need to bring personal loot from retailI know I know its fucking cringe but we have no choice
> Kino character that should be in wow forever that arent in retail
>>583467946>nothing of this is true btw>t. seething poorfag incel
>>583469705blizzards own design for wow was to grind, quests were added as a sign to lead players to new grind spots
>>583469819nope
>>583469558Latina and arab women don't have the same skin tones as blacks. Even the pic you sent has more of a black girl face.
>583469667>n-no u>ur a meme look see i used the memes that means I winPitiful. Heres a tip: ur gay and a poor fag that desperately wants to larp being rich hoping it changes your life. It will, by making it worse
>>583469819#nochanges uncs will cry about HR, they'll cry about LC, they'll cry about RMT and GDKP. But bring up the obvious solution to those problems and they soil themselves in anger.
>still no codeUGHHHHHHH
>>583461519>tee hee cute murlocs! Keep women out of men's spaces!
>>583470013but I love HR and LChow do you think I get all my loot?
post brown elf cuties
>>583468648>obsessing over twitch streamersI heard reddit is a great place for you
>>583469819This will happen once people starting to distribute loot in the "incorrect way" don't worry.Once blizzard sees people roll on leather as mail/plate wearers, cloth as non-cloth classes, etc... they'll instantly bring back personal loot.
>>583470089It's for you, king (I also got all my loot from LC, full bis every phase from classic vanilla to MoP)
>>583469964>Indirect replyI accept your ungracious and seething surrender.
>>583468498>not a bad way to level if you want to dungeon grind, but it's also not as good as questing in the overworldIt only needs to be "not as good" on the facet that you need 4 other players to do it. It's XP/h should at MINIMUM be the same as questing. Gear is no longer an incentivizing factor with the crafting buffs.
>>583461519Hearthstone writers are better than wow writers, i wish i was joking
>>583470148Lead dev plays paladin, he doesn't care about taking gear from other armor types.Also if they make armor types a thing they'll have to make armor mutli stat since there is not enough int gear for holy pal
>>583468498>Honestly I think the dungeon XP needs to be in a spot where it's not a bad way to level if you want to dungeon grind, but it's also not as good as questing in the overworld.so exactly how it was before, it never outperformed pure questing if you knew what you were doing
>wah wah you gotta rush>NOOOOO NO DUNG XP!?!?>gearscore mandatory bruv!!>
>>583470301Dungeon XP was always worse than questing/grinding, more so if you could AoE grind in the open world.The only reason why people "spammed dungeons!!1" is because1. Overworld is crowded as shit on release2. They got turbo boosted after release and got to AFK3. They can solo "self boost" ie, aoe grind in private
>>583470386I stopped playing Hearthstone when Ben Brode left, how is it?Also, I think one of the vanilla quest designers works on Hearthstone, probably explains why.
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME (YOU)s I DESPERATELY NEED THE ATTENTION AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT>NOOOOOOOOO ACKNOWLEDGE MY EXISTENCE YOU HAVE TO
i need daddy blizzard to police how i level and how i distribute looties in my raids
so whos planning on rolling alliance to camp this midget on release?
>>583470397Prot and ret also use int.Spell power plate will just have x3-4 times the stat budget.Also, you are right, he will bring personal loot as soon as one of those smelly, filthy, unwashed and subhuman brown apes takes one of HIS items.>>583470460Type B is subhuman cattle and type a is the player blizzard caters to thobeit.
>>583470530RNG is still complete cancer but id say its in a better state than it was 2 years ago.
what if its just DKP, but you buy DKP with gold before the raid
>>583470594There's no way he goes pvp right?
I don’t do min/max and don’t like others expecting it of me, but I’d never tell someone they were wrong apart from playful ribbing of a friend. Play your way and give me the same courtesy. Thats what we have world first raid clears AND crafter/gatherer masters. Plenty of play styles for all!As for the “why gatekeep”, it’s mostly people that don’t like seeing others having fun their way. The feel it’s a “waste of time” and therefore bad and since they are Dunning Kruger alumni they feel they are the expert of how to “really do [insert thing here]”.
>>583470146The devs literally do podcasts with streamers to get their opinions on what changes should be made to the game, yet we're not allowed to talk about streamers because it makes some anons uncomfortable?
I wont be inviting undead paladins to my groups unless they put on the dress.As the tank and group leader it is my right to put them where they belong
>>583470574Of course, otherwise players might play INCORRECTLY and EXCLUDE me. They can't do that. I dictate how the game is meant to be played.
>>583470609Forever is marketed for type a though
>>583470675he is now saying he will go pvp, maybe he will change his mind, but he has been playing pvp on the beta, and getting killed in every pvp encounter so far.
>>583470594is he US? I'm going alliance for sure but probably eu due to ping issues, but I'd certainly like to kill kangaroo man
>>583470594who
>>583470675asmons going pvp but said hes going pve so streamers go pvp lol contents finna be glorious
>>583461698>Western womenPlenty of good manga and games written by japanese women.
>>583470737>no reading comprehensionYep, yep, yep, iconic Type B.
>>583470737Fuck I meant type b
>>583470746ping isnt that bad on NA as EU, you get around 100ms which is very playable. you can test this by what your ping on beta is rn or if you play an NA account free trial on retail. im playing NA this fresh as EU and I did last fresh too. It so much more enjoyable than playing with a bunch of muslims and balkans.
>Horde characters on pvp>Alliance characters on pveIs this a good idea?
>>583470875its so much better having the entire chat be english at all times
fuck brehs...*bites lip*fuckkcckk....
>>583470738Asmon is not going PvP. At level 60, he'll just get mind controlled nonstop and bullied until he quits, just like he did during Classic. The dude had a literal panic attack over it and stopped streaming for months.
>>583470852It's okay, we know you B types are slow and incompetent in general, that's why you are our cattle <3
>>583470460thing is, while I agree with sentiment B, sentiment A is what actually works in all aspects of life. CEOs with billions of dollars didn't get there by stopping to smell the flowers. people in wow who are bis every patch and have tons of gold and win at pvp didn't get there by smelling the flowers either. you either tryhard or just know you will always be secondrate and you have to be okay with that. i wish it weren't the case, i wish i didn't have to work so hard irl to make money, but life is shit and one way to make it less shit is grinding like a champ
>>583470942not to mention NA players are far more friendly in my experience than eu cunts. anecdotal i know, but last fresh i went NA for the first time and I was shocked how polite and helpful everyone was as i went 1-60.
>>583470889>she thinks she will be able to create horde characters on pvp ruleset during releasesis..
>>583470889yes, level them equally so when you arrive at your quest location and see the following you can at least have the choice of getting buttfucked by 50 of the enemy faction for an hour or you can spend it on your comfy realm
>>583470989>CEOs with billions of dollars didn't get there by stoppingno they got there because they're 99% socio and or psychopaths with 0 emotional response and most likely bipolar narcs
>>583470980did he have a constant escort of 200+ chuds at all times back then
if you don't want to put the work in you don't deserve loot nor do I want to raid with you at allcry all you want then go spend 3 hours in MC with reddit dads
>>583470980>>583470770These reddít tourists are so obsessed that they think were talking about him.
>>583471146>Fag tranny tourist chud spunk goyAnything to add?
>>583471128*blocks you*you now no longer exist :)
>>583469859I'm 100% betting on a Hellfire Peninsula zone in the future along with demon hunters. If they don't add mana mummy NPCs in some part then I'll riot.
>>583471084>>583470989yeah and it's no wonder they all say money doesn't bring happiness and they need to engage in vile degenerate shit
Is it true that the only reason they nerfed dungeon xp is because the devs are making money selling rxp on the side? Why wouldn't they also ban rxp if they want the wholesome organic world interactions? It sounded conspiratorial at first but Idk
>>583470989The ultimate realization in life is that B types are winners and A types are coping losers.
Im playing a female fagborn Druid and I’m having a ton of fun. Horde btw
lolthey're literally just high elvesmeanwhile the blue bastards are the horde cunts
>>583471232true
>>583471241can I fuck your ass
>>583471109You don't understand how bad alliance players are at world pvp.
>>583471109His army of chuds has no idea how to play the game. All it takes is one person mind controlling asmon, and his goons end up killing him by accident. It happened over and over in Classic, and he eventually rage quit.
>>583470981Where did I say I'm type b? You should learn to read bro
>>583471084t. Crying, kvetching, malding and cucked A type
>>583471303>they're literally just high elvesI mean yes, thats why the intro cutscene calls them high elves, that was the plan for 99% of development until Metzen came in and went full retard
>>583471378>>583471361
>>583471303Highborne =/= High Elves
i think wow wonnedxiv tards in shambles
>>583470875is the ping noticeable in your rotation or no? genuinely debating going NA this time so i dont have to deal with eastern europeans taking cig breaks every 10 mins during raid nights
Why do mages get their own city
>>583471361Your mental retardation is just B type things my lil cucky bruddy <3
>>583471238>rxpHow come no one has ever just stolen all of the guides and just copy pasted it into their own addon and just make it free with the option for donations?What could RXP do, sue them? lmao.
>>583471347Theres hundreds of you, anon. They dont have to be good. They just have to see a red nametag and push a single damaging ability and your entire health bar is gone.
>>583471489Mages are the Mary Sues of Warcraft.
>No catbox>No real (You)shit thread
Since when do we have some fucking shitfag homo nons ITT that seethe about azzmongoid? Shouldn't they be contained to reddoot? We get it youre mad cause youre gay, fat, and brown and he makes fun of you. Stfu.
>>583471238>Is it true that the only reason they nerfed dungeon xp is because the devs are making money selling rxp on the sideno?
>>583471489because it was nuked
>>583471576Now in plain english
>>583471489Look on the bright side, maybe your class will get your own city as well at some point.
>>583471230ethereals are too kino to not have in this new timeline desu
>>583471551kys porn addictthere are boards for your kind
>>583470386Honestly you're not entirely wrong. The book of heroes or whatever it was called they did that retold the main story of Vanilla, with Onyxia and shit, was actually really good. I remember people shidding and pissing and farding cause one of the characters was non binary and they were virtual signaling about it on twitter, the character quite literally never mentions it.
>>583467179>The class podcasts definitely show that they're trying to engineer the metaThis is how it has always worked. Yes, in Vanilla too. Just because it's impossible to fully predict the meta doesn't mean devs aren't trying to engineer the healthiest one they can.How do you think it would go otherwise? Just assign arbitrary numbers to everything without any testing or forethought about how the game will be played in practice? Do you think this would achieve desirable ends?I'm really curious what happened in the last week that caused a dramatic increase in retarded bullshit like this. "Player choice", bro, heckin "emergent gameplay". The Modern Gamer's resentment of game design as a concept.
>>583471463yeah but I can't mod my character into cute outfits on wow
>>583471464You should check it out on beta (if you have access) or make a free trial account for NA. Maybe you can even check it on a PTR if any are up. All of these are hosted same location as any NA server. Personally from my location and with my ISP i had no issues with my rotation or in WPVP during anni. I even managed to get 99 parses in raids and was doing fine in random bgs and wpvp. Didnt notice it. Would recommend NA, was such a nice experience.
>>583471646ethereals are gay and stupid
>>583471352>All it takes is one person mind controlling asmon, and his goons end up killing him by accident.kek no way, people just saw the red bar and instantly smoked him?
>>583471489>>583471621How do you think players would react to class halls like in Legion?Obviously not Skyhold and shit like that, but places in the world that belong to X class.
>>583471825the less instanced content, the better
>>583468714ozempic face
Orc/Undead lock or Nelf hunter?
>Alliance exceptionalismumm, that's problematic
>>583471669even their original characters mog a lot of nu-wow charactersrafaam is better than anything retail produces.
>>583468714Why do her tits look smaller on the bottom?Clearly worse
>>583471918play a class without a pet you wanna fuck, faggot
>>583471347Never underestimate the power of retards in large groups.>>583471352That's fair.
heres hoping all the offspec dipping points into 2 or 3 trees will be usable
>>583471589why wouldn't they ban it then? they go as far as getting rid of dungeon but then allow a paid addon that removes any sense of exploration in the world? the only explanation is they're getting paid too
>/wowfg/>ctrl+f "reddit">10 matches>r/wowforever>ctrl+f "4chan">0 matcheswhy are you so obsessed with reddit, while they don't think about you at all?
>>583471646did they ever show back up after burning crusade? I dropped out after wotlk
>>583472041But I’m going to play affliction without a pet or MM lone wolf though. Why the melty?
>>583472316the same dungeon spamming bots are in both of those places and twitter, too
>>583472357 a little bit in the last patch of legion, idk after that i stopped playing.
>>583472007Rafaam is good because warcraft characters run off entirely on chewing the scenery and looking "cool" and rafaam does both.90% of his cards are fucking shit and people still love his dumbass.
>>583472376>But I’m going to play affliction without a petfucking why
Selling mod tags is just griefing anyway. You can easily report them.
>>583472291bro its literally an arrow with a leveling guideyou can google/download this addon without any cost too. its the easiest shit to pirateanyone buying that shit is retarded nothing stopping someone looking online too
>>583472461he is basically wow's version of skeletor. Always loses but gets back up with another stupid scheme
>>583463551>thiccyour too much of a faggot to admit you like fat women
>>583469859This nigga right here
>click>click>solve captcha>click>This window will close in 3 seconds...This is such a fun /wowfg/ mini game. Making fat nons have to get up and reset their router.
>>583472291btw ur not paying for the addonthe addon is freeits the guides
I think women should serve men.
>>583472606>>583472605>>583472598>>583472550I am thinking about getting into WoW and just seeking some advice. Should I choose PVE or PVP server? If you are on PVP can you get attacked in the middle of a quest or just in specific zones? I work and go to school so is joining a guild realistic or would it be like a second job? I would like to experience everything and have fun. If I do go PVE can I still do PVP or no? Not sure how anything really works. But just looking for some advice/help. Thank you. I'd like to play both retail and WoW Forever once it releases. Maybe some of the beta if I buy the game soon.
>>583472031hmm yes very interesting do continue, please
>>583472492I don’t like pets but do like warlock and hunter. Is the +15% shadow damage not better than a pet in pve? Sure in pvp a pet is probably better but idc.
>>583472605>announcing a report
>>583471238i mean aggrend himself uses restedxp
>>583471517obviously they have, the only people who pay are tech illiterate.
Ima be real lads. Just gonna play the game and have fun.
>>583460038>>nerf an entire way of levelinggood, fuck you dungeon spamming faggot zoomers.
>new forever item>+1% fartywartysauceWhat is this quirk chungus text? That's not an actual status effect in World of Warcraft. Fuck these "people".
>>583472764Don't (You) me for this shit asshole. I'm not your fucking mom. I'm not even your friend. Figure it out
>>583459917Iconic class locations>MageDalaran, Human>DruidMoonglade, Night Elf>PriestCathedral of Light, HumanTemple of the Moon, Night Elf>PaladinBastion of the Silver Hand, Human (Undead)Cathedral of Light, Human>RogueSI:7 Headquarters, Human>WarlockSlaughtered Lamb Pub, Human>WarriorSkyhold, Vrykul/Human>Shamansome hole in the dirt, orc
>>583472949Cringe and reddit
>>583471734i dont have beta so ill make an na account and try retoiler trial and see how it is, ty anon
>>583472764I'm going PvE (or RP if I feel like it) for my main and then create a legacy point powered rogue on PvP to torment little hordelets
>>583472550Long as theyre not like annorexic or obese I like all women. You'll understand one day.
>>583472989>>583472991>>583472954>>583472949>>583472917Fartywartysauce is overpowered
people actually PAY for rxp instead 9f pirating it?wtf
>>583472960Finally a type B item
>>583473038ptr works also, any ptr. all ptr servers are hosted on NA.
>>583473053>>583473047>>583473038>>583473017>>583472991>>583472991>>583472989>BROOO I LOVE +1% HIT CHANCE IT MATTERS SOOOOO MUCH OMG YAAAAS MY ULTRARARRSHARTMOR GIVES ME 1% MORE CHANCE TO HIT AMD +5 FARTYWARTYSAUCE
>>583472989It's some schizo who mass replies to unrelated posts
>>583473180Fuck him that's bad 4chan manners
>>583472549I love that scheming retard.Same for Gul'Dan.
>>583471489Why do druids get their own one?
Srry anons. I only date big Mag'Har orc fems. I'l just stay celibate on classic/forever.
>583473151Bot or pajeet?
Your 15year vanilla wow veteran anons. The pvp god.
>>583473304need less pixels
>>583473295>defending fartysauce
>>583473304unironically horde can't play wpvp 1v1, they can only group zerg or gank lowbies, it's one thing I learned after playing every single classic wow iteration that came out since 2019
>>583472775>Is the +15% shadow damage not better than a pet in pve?a) that is a demonology perk, so you're not getting it for a while if at all if you're going afflic and b) I'm not at all convinced its more damage than the succubus puts out, to say nothing of the options the pets give you in general
gimme spellsword metaplate armorspells that enhance my big sword
>>583473304he potted
>>583473304>trying to kite a hunter>running around like a retard doing nothing while the hunter gets shots inchrist...
>layering manipulation lets PvEers all hide on a single sided layer>BGs put all PvPers in instanced PvP>world diesWalking around now I only see people in the cities and all the zones are empty, is this good game design?
>>583473304All this guy does is complain. Every single video is just complaining. I hope he quits early.
>>583473580Aggrend game, ret will be op
>>583473304>horde players
>>583473689Theyre going to fix layering by launch. They plan to add in individual cooldowns to layering.
Give it to me straight, bros. Is there a chance Affli lock is good or am I forever cucked as Destro in raids?
>>583473698he's the wow equivalent of synthetic man, AKA the world's most obvious and pathetic doomer /v/irgin
>>583473772>osts>>583473746>>583473743>>583473698Is retail worth it if im poor as fuck and cant afford beta
>>583473791doubt it
>>583473772>Theyre going to fix layering by launchlol
>>583473593WHY DID HE POT?!https://streamable.com/ar9bqn
>>583473295one fat 36 year old believe it or not.
>>583471239Nah healthy mix of the types. Type A just enough to have enough wealth to give you financial freedom so you can enjoy things. You can't get to that point without Type A, pure Type B are like failed artist trannies who work at starbucks to make ends meet and secretly want to die everyday.The biggest Type A players essentially crafted the modern world to cull most of the Type B players.
>>583473743dont want reti want flamesword
>>583473805Play the game if you want to know if it's worth it bro, it's your fucking money idk what to tell you retard.or wait like, 30 days for the game to be out?
>>583473772That doesn't fix the problem
legion class hubs were unironically kino and they should bring them back in forever
>>583473912Cant play it bro should i ply retial??
>>583473689The game is perfect, aggrend is holy, you will play as blizzard decides. If blizzard says layering is good, it is.>>583473909Not a blizzard approved way to play, go away subhuman nigger ape retoileteer.
>>583470013The group I play with distributes loot very fairly as an LC. It's the same people every week consistently so I have no problem getting geared. It's only an issue if you play with a bunch of casuals. The sweaty try hards want everyone geared because it's optimal for their parses if the bosses die faster. Casual players are the loot horders because they play with different people everytime and only care about their personal progression.I HR items while farming preraid bis and that's totally fair too. Don't like it? Form your own group.
Today we shall remember some of the 2019s classic arc of the little balding midgets greatest hits. I submit to you a small compilation for your enjoyment. https://streamable.com/zeposb
>>583471352>remember my group accidentally pulling like 8 raptors>we got through it, but 1 person did die>they group wiped to 3 raptorsWas everyone besides Asmon all level 22 or something?
>>583474060fuck you fuck your assholemy flamesword WILL live
>>583474113>>583474180>>583474090>>583474075retail wroth it?
>>583473908didn't read lol cry more type b, you will be excluded
>>583473772>Theyre going to fixAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
some retard is having a meltie, copy pasting reddoot posts and just being desperate for (You)s. What causes this behavior? Not being White?
Judging by the e-celeb abandonment of their daily shill spam (or at least the reduction of it) I'd say the game is already dead.
>SoD- poster btfos indian shills>Critique of the obvious design flaws starts>Thread starts to turn against wow fogever and blizzardAnd then, for no reason and suddenly>Incomprehensible IESLB bot spam posting startsVeeeery natural~!
>>583471714every mmo needs whatever modding infrastructure xiv has tbqh. it's so unreal it's functionality that it's crazy to me this is the only game that works in this way. it's godtier and is damn close enough of a reason to play the game by itself (if there was no sub I'd play just for this). The fun I had with all the mods from silly shit to gooner shit was awesome. The fact that I could see others and they could see mine was awesome. WoW's way of just changing every single female model in the game to the same exact body is so fucking boring and lame and it's just client side slop. XIV mods created an actual community and gameplay around them.
>>583471352>2H tanking
>>583474339you didn't mass reply to anyone
>>583473304Does anyone have Alex's POV of the infamous level 17 hunter gank?I think the fucker deleted it anywhere he could
>>5834743612h tanking warrior is actually smart
>>583474361I don't think he's the tank, he is in battle stance even
>>583474339stop noticing things goy
>>583474407Yes, alex recently went on a flaggot spree of false DMCA claiming anyone he could on youtube. https://odysee.com/@Lewak:5/Alexensual-17-Hunter:6
Yes I am a protection paladin.>No, I will not invite casters that want my spell power swords/maces or spell power rings / neck / trinkets.>No, I will not invite elemental shaman that want my spell power shields. >No, I will not invite retribution paladins to my groups.>No healers will not be permitted to roll on dps items.Simple as.
>>583472764It's too late to tell how endgame will look. If they keep it in line with classic, you don't really need a dedicated guild. Naxx level of difficulty you might just have to wait a bit for other players to get geared and learn mechanics before you can trust a pug, but if we get MC difficulty raids you can basically just hop on as soon as you hit 60 and pug a raid like nothing.
>>583474421People will take this bait btw.
now THIS is classic PLUS
>>583473503Regardless, pets are for fags and I’ll play without one. It is possible to be full affliction and still get demonic sacrifice.
>>5834744212h tanking isn't the blizzard approved way, put on the shield it is superior.
>>583474547its not bait retard2h = more rage and damage as tankand more aggro
>>583474512Thanks a lot! I've been looking for this for a while
>>583474609this isn't classic
>>583473295im only getting 140fps
>>583474609Oh god you were serious.lol no on all counts.
Can they please fix the shaman talent trees, they feel awful
>>583474541>Invite brownoids and roguedditors:^)
>>583474689>>583474673
>>583474609>gets two shot>inspects>green 2H’r
Started up retail for the first time why is this intro so gay
>>583474564what the actual fuck is this
>>583474609Unironically protection with a shield in defensive stance generates more rage and threat than a 2h or dual wielding. Yes even on cleave packs.
reminder that there'll be a tank drought so you better play pally or warrior
>>583474568enjoy being gimped
>>583474512holy fuck why is he spamming moonfire like a tard
>>583474763i'm an undead warrior (i'm white)
>Mutilate isn't consuming the Cold Blood buff, yet is still benefiting from the ability to do 100% crit.>Press Cold Blood, never press another builder or offensive finisher. Mutilate now permanently has 100% crit.Roguebros we're winning
>>583474763Why not drood
>>583474698Sorry! Shaman is a >Healer>Caster DPS>Melee phys DPS>Melee caster DPS>Tank phys>Tank casterAs such, it just needs to have a higher hybrid tax!!
I mean I’m doing okay so far 2h tanking as warrior Arms (Got Deflection 5/5, Tactical Mastery 5/5, Anger Management)I am nearly always in defensive stance and setup a macro to swap to battle to do things like Charge, Mocking Blow, Overpower then return to defensive.I hit hard which is nice to help in killing, and have a high chance of parrying to proc tab spam Revenge. I first Charge, Thunderclap, Demoralizing Shout, Disarm (if applicable), then shift to my rotation of keeping up Thunderclap, Taunting/Mocking Blow enemies that chase after DPS, and Cleave/Revenge spam OR Heroic/Sunder/Rend spam on single targets.OH and Victory Rush on cooldown.If you are grabbing normal packs you are okay, but note, this DOES require good gear and potion/buff prep. Be kind to your healers and be ready for the dungeon by spending money for the goods.
IF YIU AREN’T NOT IN OLYMPOUS YOUR A BETA KEK
>>583474763you can tank all the early stuff before dual spec as any spec so it doesn't matter, just people will have to suck up their nuts and throw on a sword and board or go bear
>>583474812we're full on healers
>>583473689>doing the quest chain for uldaman (the one all the shamans are at right now)>only see alliance and wonder "hmm I guess horde shamans have a different quest?">ask for invite to a group>get invited>it layers all 5 of us>surrounded by dozens of horde, tons of them signed up for the pvp tournament>instantly swarmed and camped until i leave the zonet-thanks blizzard
>>583474905>>583474884>>583474871>>583474854hey im playing retail!
>>583474720They don't need spell power plate, spell power weapons, or spell power rings. Protection paladin has its own class of gear now. I am playing paladin because it has the fewest competitors for items as a tank.Warriors compete with basically every physical dps class for gear in all specs. Meanwhile paladin gets spell power and intellect plate that no one else wants.
>>583474951congrats?
>>583474838>>583474698Luckily they haven't said hybrid tax but it just feels so underwhelming>ele shaman forced into lava burst and no mana regen so must go down restro>enhancement tree is half meme shit for tanking which will never happen>restro is the most "good" spec but still has no synergy with other trees
>>583474812also holy shit i'm so tired of hearing the rejuv sound effect
>>583474951>>583474854>>583474838>>583474763does this run at 140 fps?
>>583475016why arent u?
>>583474965I know.I love my brown and shaman (Enh!) friends.
>>583474812Druid unironically feels like shit to play. I tried to like it in the beta. I just cannot. It's the worst of the three tanks in all regards.
>>583475019Its okay im just gonna lazily press Wild Growth every 7 seconds and autoattack. I hope it has a nice sound.
>>583475093Early or recently? They changed swipe to scale with AP. Im just wondering if they expect feral to also get some spellpower for thorns scaling.
>>583475030No, WOW can never run at more tahn 140fps
>>583475017I have to be honest with you, Shaman is going to be permanently cucked and gaped, at most resto will be "broken" because it is the least harmful role to bring while being good at raid healing and dropping totems.Also just let them be tanks if you are going to have half the fucking tree be build around quick 1 handers and ensuring rockbiter is never used.
>>583475017>>583474698>Enhance Shaman has more talents regarding taking less damage or increasing your stamina than prot warriors
>>583475264.. so play a different type of warrior, tard
>>583475264warrior has them baked in because they're a hybrid class
Now that dungeons no longer give xp, how are healers supposed to level on a PVP server?
>>583475385just heal in your shitty dps spec chuddy
>>583475093In classic bear only starts to feel good around 40. You need some crit for your rage. Mistake that 90% of them make anyway is spamming swipe and not hoarding rage for the next pack.
>>583475387where do i find someone to do this to me?? (seriously)
>>583475385Why would you spec into healing while leveling? The game is not intended to be an instanced dungeon simulator. You can just grab dual spec at 40. Maybe ask them to lower that to 20.
>>583475385kys tard
>>583475385you don't need to be specced into heals to heal, even moreso now with the power added to items instead of baseline. So you level in a DPS spec regardless of what you do in a dungeon
>>583475385I'm doing fine leveling as holy priest
>>583475264No it do->Spirit weapons>Imp. Stormstrike>Anticipation (but 6% dodge)>Toughness, but good>Guardian totems (Borderline)vs>Shield spec (borderline)>Anticipation (20 def)>Imp shield wall (borderline?)>Defiance (Threat?)Wait what the shit
>>583475523yea im sure wrangling a bunch of retards will go swimmingly with no one specced into tanking or healing
>>583474778Demonic sacrifice has been the meta build in classic since forever retard.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/druid/v235002011-05-5023035103103251_t0/2ADccGhFKPRsmQ0BEaaah1B0gDoes this look right?
>>583475668no anon LOL it has not
I don't use Frost Armor... it's too urban-coded.
>>583475634Dungeons are wayyy easier now, we 2 manned Gnomer level 20, this shit is a joke
>>583475501On the designated ERP server of your region, Moon guard or argent dawn
>>583475729>>583475709>>583475708>>583475671>>583475668Why does retail feel so soulless in the intro
You'll get bored of spamming in an hour. But Forever is forever. Its gonna have like 10m players.
>>583475385You level as a dps saar, that is correct way of playing wow saar, here I will send you document on how to play class as we see correctly here at blizzard HQ:>DruidYou level as feral cat, saar>WarriorYou level as protection warrior with revenge, like epic wrath, saar>PaladinYou level as retribution, like brahmin aggrend saar, aoe farm will be nerfed soon>ShamanYou level as melee enh then reroll to healer for end games, saar>WarlockYou level as a affli-demo saar>PriestYou level as shadow, saar, then reroll healer>HunterYou level as BM, saar, then become lone wolf>RogueYou level as combat saar, then become mutilate bot>MageYou must level as frost saar, then become frostfire player.
>>583475889retail is soulless i just tried it
>>583475889BLOCTAR BLOGAR
>>583475385You use your damage spell with the increased spellpower on gear
>we are committed to banning all the botte-ACKBlizzard lies like it breathes
>>583475903>rerolldual spec is at level 40
>>583476048they nerfed dungeo nspamming this kills all bots, rmt and boosters saar, you are benchod
>>583476126>>583476112>>583476048SAAAR I CANT DO DUNGEONS!!
>>583464686>Warrior tanks don't want to share gear with you.>Sometimes they just already have the class you are thoughwhy not just say "lfm mage/warlock/whatever" or "lfm caster dps/leather dps/whatever" then?
>>583474812>Why not drooddruid just doesn't have all the belgian whistles that other tanks do. paladins have infinite ranged taunts, warriors have cleave, etc. on top of that, druid isn't a fun class to play in general
>>583475903you dont need to do shadow on priest, its all just shield mindblast swp wand anyway, plus at 30 penance is bonkers
>>583475903so how is a shaman gonna heal in enhance gear
>>583476112Sorry saar, second spec is for pvp.These are end game approved specs as designed by blizzard.
>>583476206easily?
>>583476151I find druid fun. They also have the best pulling tools.
>>583475604At this point either let it embrace being a tank or drop that shit AND ACTUALLY GIVE IT FUN DPS TALENTS
>>583476250>I'M A PULLKEK!Why are you proud of this?
>>583476009which will deal less damage than on classic because they rescaled the coefficients
SAAR LOOK THE VERY MUCH FLAVOUR ITEM TO DO THE NEEEDFUL SAAR
>>583476206You have a second set for healing
Anons? What is the most lore accurate class for a troll? I want a troll, but I feel like every other race is a more accurate pick. Shaman? -Thrall, Warlock? -Guldan, Hunter? -Rexxar. Please is there any fucking class tailor made for Trolls?
>>583476206You have to get healer items when you become 60 andgo to raid that is how shaman is meant to play sorry saar you must figure it out yourself it is the emergy gameplay deear saar
>>583476357>He doesnt know
>>583476252That isn't the blizzard approved vision for shaman, sorry!The approved vision for Enh shaman is that it sorta sucks and has a bunch of schizophrenic talents. I guess Imp Stormstrike is good for pvp?
>>583476371hunter = Vol'jinshaman = witch doctor w3 unit
>>583476371isnt there that 1 armed rogue
I got an insider at Blizzard whos been telling me shit they're gonna put itIf you're levelling next to any of the oceans at night there is a chance that Pandaren women on turtles will roll up on turtles from the sea like Amazons, sap your character, rape you for your superior Horde cum and then go back onto their turtles and swim away
I feel like 90% of Paladins are going to eventually reroll to Rogue or Warrior, possibly before they even hit level 40
>>583476364i guess thats why you have astral recall
>>583476519>>583476252>>583475604>>583475264At this point why don't they pull a feral druid? You can dump all your points into one tree and do both cat dps and bear form
>>583475387avg porn addict orccel
WTF is this intro in retail?
>>583476371Fury Warrior, Survival Hunter and Shadow Priest all have pretty strong troll vibes.
>>583476112and how much will it cost to unlock?
>>583476654Yes, after they learn what Paladins go through in vanilla
>>583476717Because Shaman doesn't have a dedicated dev behind it advocating for it
>>583476654Rogue is up there with Hunter on just being fun as hell to play but there are so many of you you're never gonna be ale to do group content
>>583476126It's gonna be really cool when you need to pay a tank fee for RFD and you can't complete a single group quest because of the AOE elite grinding groups.
>>583476717Because shaman tank is "Not the approved vision" that's it. That is literally it.
>>583476717Now you miss out of 4% hit, 4% crit, furor
>>583476357OMG!!! does that give +1% to my grunglethorp legacy passive?rubbing my fingers over my libs like "blublublublublu" these items are so heckin quirky just like in vanilla
>>583476923BASED
>>583476847Rogue was looking good until blizzard told everyone it was gonna be top single target damage and every meta parsetranny suddenly got super interested in the class
>>583476854Stop pointing out obvious issues.You are being negative and meeeean.Just fucking shut up and do the quests and group for them even if it is not beneficial at all and nobody will group up for 2 quests.
>>583476906shaman tank is running in pressing magma and fire nova and spamming chain heal/riptide specced into resto
>>583476717>>583476832How would shaman even tank?>prot has increased block amount >warrior has a flat damage reduction >druid just has an assload of stamina and large healthMaybe special weapon buffs that increase parry and dodge chance and special totems?
>thread is full of shitposters with 0 actual discussiondidn't take long
>>583476906Fuck tank shaman. Fix enhance and elemental first.
>>583475903>>583476126>>583476246>>583476357>>583476378>how do I make this about indians? nobody mentioned indians, nobody even hinted at indians, but I need to make this about indians.
>>583476778Retail is a silly place
>>583475501I’ll split you like a log boy!
>>583477037Not because you are a real tank, but because you just nuked the entire pack.
>>583477102We all know who blizzard outsourced to to create this AIslop
>>583477078Sorry, shaman being good is also, not the approved vision.Go play resto and spam chain heal, faggot. Also totemtwist for daddy.
newest>>583477328>>583477328>>583477328
>>583477046>>583476717Well we don't have a parry focused class. That was what death knights originally had>rock biter now increases your chance to parry by 10% scalling with strength>new air enchant for off hand increases your chance to dodge by 10% and increases with agilityAnd then just give them the stagger effect monks had>stormstrike causes all damage taken to be staggered out over the next 10 seconds
>>583475264Yeah because they dont wear plate and are a shit tank.
>>583477102Hello saar ;)
>>583477027Rogue is always overplayed anyway because of it's toolkit just like Mage was (not so sure anymore after they gutted it in like 10 different ways). I imagine Blizzard plans to keep single target tank and spank bosses to a minimum. Any other fight that is single target will have some mechanic that will prevent rogues from topping the charts and let the rdps play a while. Then you'll have a lot of fights with adds or 2 bosses or something of that nature where warriors will be king. Anyone going rogue because it's the best dps on patchwerk is retarded. You go rogue because you like to pvp and be a sneaky rat with no honor. Their raid playstyle is boring as shit and you'd have much more fun on a warrior slamming a million buttons.
>>583477029What's that? You're trying to take elite mobs from the open world AOE elite mob boost sellers? Looks like their bots have mass reported you and you are now banned.
>>583475176I was playing it yesterday. Bear just isn't fun for. The feral talent tree is a bloated mess, and bears suffer from the same rage bugs warriors have but it's worse for them because they don't have the sheild spec talent to generate rage for them.
>>583465570They removed cast speed from shamans rage of the farseer because supposedly resto was really good with it instead of just buffing deep resto. It's a fucking RPG, why are they against build variety?
When the FUCK are they dropping Beta keys? I have been WAITING for that email and Blizz is still sucking streamer cock instead of helping out sensitive young men (me).They've already made a calculatable $5M from the existing pre-orders, where the fuck are my gibs?I can afford to buy the beta access, but I jave too much self respect, so fuggin GIBS ME DAT.
>>583464907Your proving anons point, Metzen GAVE them the green light to make lame retconned lore shit like the skelves
