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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9638 - Good peasant Edition

==NEWS==
>For some reason there is now an official Discord server.
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #17 - October 2026

==OTHER==
>Booru
https://sthg.booru.org/
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>Support BoC!
https://bookwalker.jp/series/568134/list/

Previous Zone: >>583533332
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cnc
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Please use our booru
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Guitar Hero Sonic
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>>583579703
>>NEWS
>For some reason there is now an official Discord server.
kek
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*headpats your OC*
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Sonic isn't Goku
Rouge isn't Bulma
Sally isn't Bulma
Amy isn't Bulma
Tails isn't Bulma
Tails isn't Gohan
Shadow isn't Vegeta but he's inspired by him
Silver isn't Trunks but he's inspired by him
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Posts shitting on the discord are reaching 2k+ likes
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Shadow Generations is surprisingly good. I'm having... what's the opposite of boring?
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>>583579862
Thank you! *headpats your OC in return*
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>>583579813
>bring booru back from general lynx
>no one but bigwhiteboardfags are using it
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Uh oh, seems we are getting 91 "earlier" than expected. Should we expect a Blaze or a Silverfag melty?
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>>583579965
Shadow's reaction to Gerald lives rent free in my head.
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So how's that discord thing going?
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>>583579897
>Sonic isn't Goku
Explain all the flash animations where Sonic is OP then
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>>583579897
>Sonic is not harinezumi arc DBZ. it's only inspired by it
>turns super and saves the world from a world ending freak of nature
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>>583580068
Maria's design almost made me a pedo.
Compared to that ugly Code Lyoko-like creature from SA2...
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>>583580085
somehow it's more pleasant to to talk to than /sthg/. /sthg/ has been ruined by a select few. whom got insta filtered by discord's automod. using filters was the right choice after all
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>>583580046
Hell yeah, my doe Dap'!
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Sonic isn't Peter Parker
Surge is not Jean Grey

The complete switch in which one jobs repeatedly makes this obvious
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First Barry of the thread
>>583580085
Slow and lame and also nice image
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>>583580085
Maybe the guy who did the original WIP might actually finish it sometime before we're all dead.
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>>583579965
It's too short. Shadow quickly switching between 3 different emotions in one single cutscene shows off how rushed the cutscenes are despite the improved animations. There rest is fine
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>>583580085
bad
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>>583580028
This tells you that the booru is astronomically astroturfed by one person
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>>583580358
>It's too short
Yes. I wanted a full overworld, and more levels. And original levels, not just old levels remixed.
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>>583580232
>omehow it's more pleasant to to talk to than /sthg/

its because it's new blood in the mix and not the stale 2-3 autists that posts about the same shit endlessly 24/7. don't worry once the dust settles it's going to be the same exact issue
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>>583580360
I changed my mind
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>>583580046
Silverfags liked it, Blazefags will complain about everytime she appears so they don't count
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>>583580152
Maria was never ugly and Code Lyoko has a crazy good theme song
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>>583580360
PR nightmare.
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>>583580360
Let me pretend to be surprised
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>>583580426
or that most of the people that actually cared for it and the community have left. Interesting to note is that all of the AIfags that threw a stink over it seemed to have left this place as well, all this hate towards it feels astrotufted by one or two individuals.
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I don't know why people keep denialfagging about movie Sonamy. The movies aren't trapped with mandates, but they still have to follow Sonic Team rules so Sonic won't be forever running away from Amy because he actually ages.
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>>583580360
This reminds me of when cats spray cat piss everywhere to mark their territory and now the entire room smells awful to anyone except for cats and toxoplasmosis parasite infected rats
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>>583580886
For once I agree with this raging faggot.
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>>583579897
Sonic Team unabashedly wears their DBZ influence on their sleeve. They’re obviously not perfect 1-to-1s, but there are clear comparisons.

Sonic is Goku
Shadow is Vegeta
Silver is Trunks
Knuckles is Piccolo
Tails is a mix of Gohan Krillin and Bulma
Amy is Chi Chi
Blaze is Caulifla
Metal is Cell
Mighty and Ray are Tien and Chiaotzu

this isn’t serious, it’s just fun to think about
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>>583580886
>can't even discuss archie there
Did Richmunk get BTFO'd by creamtranny?
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>>583580942
lol i said that exact thing last night
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>>583580942
What a nice comparison
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>>583580962
>>583581002
kuta stepped down from american rally4sally (there's also a japanese one ran by some chinese guy). new american rally4sally seems to be a sane person
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>>583580274
>Surge is not Jean Grey
You don't understand Sonic or Surge
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>>583580834
I don't want to use the booru because it's incredibly compromised and my art would be at risk of being deleted if I hurt the admin's feelings or they go on a tirade. I have the feeling that's why noone uses it.
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>>583581109
You can't get gayer than this
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>>583580921
>The movies aren't trapped with mandates
Now let's see what those movies have tried to do and were blocked from doing or were made to do
>two worlds: sonic must be an alien
>Sonic has to be an inspirational figure. (Redeemds knuckles and shadow).
>sonic's home planet can't be called "mobius".
>sonic can't use the master emerald to go super
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>>583580970
I mean there are dbz influences but there are also other influences that people ignore.
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>>583581306
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I scraped the entire booru and all its tags
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Rewatch the movies while knowing that Movie Sonic has a mandate that he cannot ask for help. The movies have mandates and they just manage to word their way around him.
Even the scene you're thinking of right now, he does not ask for help.
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>>583581417
create a new one that is less gay
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>>583580360
How is talking about rights not political? They should enforce their no politics rule
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>>583581417
for what purpose?
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>>583581395
>Nickyfied Scourge
Nothing is sacred anymore
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https://files.catbox.moe/kinoxx.jpg
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>>583581550
Scraping and archiving is satisfying
I have a terabyte of Sonic images
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>>583581648
It was never supposed to be.
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>>583581453
What scene am I thinking of?
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>I based Sally Acorn on Bulma from the "Dragon Ball" franchise. A Japanimation series made by those japs overseas. I found Bulma to be a very compelling character with her vanity and hostility. That is why I took those traits away and mainly focused on her inventiveness which I only used for a handful of episodes and never addressed in the Archie comics
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>>583581649
>Gets naked
>Look at you like this
Yeah, the outcome was inevitable
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>>583580834
So who even are left at this point?
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>>583581682
understandable, there is a lot of neat images in the booru considering how old it is. It was fun to cycle through everything when I first found out about it.
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>>583581682
Post them
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>>583581649
Is there a character Silver hasnt fucked yet?
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I have been feeding Sonic blinding stew for three days.
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>>583582024
>Travel back in time 2 years before the war to dick Slinger but didn't tell him how to survive
Silver you faggot
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>>583579060
>See, you get it.
>Amy even describes Elise's feelings as " a one-sided love" and says she is pursuing someone too.
>It's a direct parralel. Amy even encouraged her to be more bold and forward like she is.

>>583579579
Yes, NiGHTs is the most overt about it.
And yes. Sonic and Amy are the same. Sonic has a "boy's heart forever". Amy has the idealized heart of a "maiden in love"
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>>583581453
What about this? https://clip.cafe/sonic-the-hedgehog-2020/well-legs-which-normally-would-be-classified/
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>>583582516
That was a scene they had to edit. He can't *ask*. He has to tell them to do it.
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>>583579897
Correct
Amy is more like DB Chichi anyway
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>>583581876
>So who even are left at this point?
Good question. I have no idea but I'll simply say what has been repeated for months now. This general feels empty, populated by less then 10 people on average where 90% of all the posts in every thread are obviously made by the same individuals who keep bringing up drama that happened years ago and and can't let go. Sad state of affairs but it is what it is. This general is a lesson that autistic fueled grudges never seem to die
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>>583582607
So it's in line with the mandates because he's demanding help instead of asking it?
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>>583582707
Just like the master emerald having the chaos emeralds inside of it is in line with the mandates
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>>583582607
>I need your help
>PLEASEEEEEEE
>It's life or death

>Uh, little help?
No, he definitely asks for help
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>>583580970
>Sonic is Goku
Explain

Most of the insistence on how foundational and rooted the influence is is exaggerated by people who mainly go off flash animations back in the day.
Motherfuckers see a superform on Sonic and reduce everything to just DB. Ots annoying in a similar way to westfags trying to turn Sonic into TMNT and Spiderman
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Ultra Powered
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>>583569228
SSS is real, not a fake meme. 06 is its apotheosis
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>>583582875
And it shall rise once more!
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Great, now I'm going to be hunting for every instance where westnic peer pressures people into getting things he wants because Sonic Team says he can't ask or whatever
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>>583580942
I remember we would meme about toxoplasmosis to shoo away the Blazeshitters.
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>>583582965
Mario is off topic BS
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Didn't know Sonic was so egotistical to think asking for help is beneath him.
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>>583582875
>>583582965
It’s the fakest surface level trio that’s ever existed. They have zero chemistry or reason to be together other than being the same species .
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Good night silver queen
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>help me
>help me
>I need help
>you will help me
>help me or else we'll have a problem
>it's your fault anyways
>if you weren't so useless i wouldn't need help
sega...
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>>583583175
Did you come from the discord server? Go back there, you kind isn't welcomed here troon
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>>583581795
It's literally just a Sallyfag desperately trying to meme their way into making Sally seem like she fits in just fine by trying to appeal to DBZisms thinking actual weebs are just DBZshitters. Flaming casual
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>>583583427
You wish fag, sss is ssslop
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It's weird that I can't see Sonic marrying Amy but for some reason I can see him having a bastard child with her.
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>>583583564
Not even that bestie, but nice try
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Sally Acorn, a character defined by being responsible and serious. Definitely the same thing as Bulma who is so serious.
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You take the breath out of me
You left a hole where my heart should be
You gotta fight just to make it through
Cause it will be the death of you
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>>583583550
Where is the bulge?
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>>583583550
>belt with no pants
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>>583580360
>Smelliest server
>Says a Sonic Would Love Us member
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>>583583848
It's for spanking
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>>583583550
He's so sexy, a bara wolf decades before werehog.
That's probably one of the positives of Archie comics: character design that isn't afraid of trying something new.
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No one uses the booru because it's compromised by mod staff that have been openly hostile towards drawfags not in the in-group and will delete entire artist tags and all of their images because they got mad over an argument on here. Both of these things were true before the shitstorm that happened with Duofag, all that did was give it more focus.

I'd say we should just make a new one but I wouldn't be surprised if when we did the mods on the current booru would just nuke the whole thing before anyone could scrape it just to spite us. In fact one of them basically already threatened this.
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>>583583848
>Big
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>>583583075
Making a lot of assumptions.
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>>583584194
do you have a screenshot of the mod saying this?
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>>583584221
Thats for keeping his gut in check, like a girdle
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Imagine being filled with Drago's fluids
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>>583583427
He's literally right. It's a slop trio and a forced meme. Silver is vestigial. The fact he is 14 instead of 15 just shows how much of a patchjob it was.
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I saw the capeshit movie

Jean Grey
>Homeless psychic woman having a chimpout
>Hates Spider Man because he's getting in her way
>beats him, humiliates him, starts doing rapey shit just to shame him
>Gets redeemed before nearly killing a million people in the middle of a tantrum
>Smug and dominant the whole movie, only loses her composure during the climax


Surge
>Hating Sonic is her default mode.
>Jobber
>Hates Sonic because of programming and then because he won't kill villains
>Gets humiliated by Sonic every time they fight
>still hates and wishes to kill Sonic
>Always seething and crying. Never has composure

How are these the same aside from being evil girls.
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>>583584194
There were around 200 ai pics, mostly shitpost and memes that were deleted after the Shadally pic was posted.
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>>583584438
It happened like a whole year ago from now, the only reason why I remembered was because I was one of the people asking for resources to scrape the booru and I got dogpiled by like 3-4 anons that came out of nowhere saying that they'll just delete the booru if that happens. I don't take screenshots of this place because I'm not a schizo.
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>>583584509
That's because Silver respects them as their superior.
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>>583583564
Sonic doesn't care about social formalities. He wouldnt care about the whole "needing to be married first" stuff in general.
But Sonic isn't really horny either, so it wouldn't be an accident either. But I also dont see him planning or actively opting into parenthood either.
It's weird. He'd probably just let things happen and roll with the punches.
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Douge
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>>583584449
Imagine tying Drago up and fucking yourself silly on his cock, but never letting him cum and keeping him forever horny and pent up, until his brain short circuits from the pleasure and he becomes retarded
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>>583582875
>>583583175
>>583583427
>>583584509
SSS isn't a trio. It's a temporary cooperative effort on one occasion. In the game where this cooperation happens, they are the leads (with Silver's leadership being debatable) of 3 different teams. They're put together one time for thematic reasons. It was never intended as a replacement for anything, and it shouldn't be.
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>>583584889
Sonic sounds like literally me
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>>583584194
Its just that its inconvenient to access really.
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People try to get around Sonic not wanting a relationships by making him a horny guy who likes fucking, but if that was true he would be a slut who fucks anyone because it feels good, since he wouldn't care about having to be restricted to a relationship. This is the kind of stuff Sonougefags come up with
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I hate you people so much, you have no idea how much I wish the fucking mods on this god forsaken board would just enforce their god damn rules and prune this place onto trash permanently. The community that was once in this place that I loved has been completely supplanted and removed by a group of legitimately autistic retards who use this place as a vent box for social media bullshit. This general has absolutely nothing to do with the franchise beyond what the flavor of the bitching and shitposting is about.

The feign caring of the health of this place is even more annoying because I can tell just by posting patterns alone that the people who bring this up are the same ones that made this place what it is and they're doing it just to rub it in mine and any other oldfag's faces. Like a child going "haha see, I ruined your favorite thing for you so now you HAVE to engage with me! Hahaha fuck you."

It's so fucking tiresome.
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>>583584194
Don't forget they lock registrations whenever they please during said shitstorms.
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In an alternate universe Sonic Mania would mark the beginning of the great Sega renaissance unto heights never before seen. Sonic Mania did everything right and somehow those embers got snuffed out by gross incompetence and pride like always.
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>>583585076
You sound like such a tsundere
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>>583585220
They also demodded and banned one of the most frequent uploaders because of Discord drama that had absolutely no relation to this place or the booru. They did it just to spite him for not being a simp.
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>>583585007
They didn't replace anything in the first play. Only insecure Tail/Knucklesfags say this. Both became irrelevant anyways in the next games lol
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>>583585007
And it was still forced. Silver didn't earn it
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>>583585353
>Surge if her fans wrote her

Silver is the only character who has it this bad. Maybe Tails or Shadow too.
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>>583585076
Freedoms and liberty belong in a Sonic 4chan general
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>>583585414
It also doesn't make sense because it's one of the two games where Team Sonic is even a thing.
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Sonic should never be on a team
>but heroes did it
Heroes was also OOC, but 2000s kiddos refuse to accept that. The entire modern brand changed who Sonic is.
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>>583585076
>Like a child going "haha see, I ruined your favorite thing for you so now you HAVE to engage with me! Hahaha fuck you."
Projection + take meds
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Naughty boy
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>>583585505
It really was Nakamura forcing his OC on everyone. That nigga is straight up retarded and Sonic Team will never get back on track so long as he’s around
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Blazefags are starting to sound jealous because Silver is shipped with her by Sega
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>Sabotage your own IPs
>Let RGG do whatever stupid shit they want
>The content creators you push are all LARPers and total shit
>Pander to troons and faggots

Sega should just go under, desu
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>>583585505
>>583586161
Silver will turn 20 years next month and you are trying to convince newfags he is as a flavor of the month. Do you realize how insane you sound right now?
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>>583585803
>making things up to be mad about
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:D
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>>583586536
He was flavor of the month in 06 (a rancid franchise-killing flavor btw) and has never been more ever since. Newfags should know that to save themselves the heartache
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>>583586161
I don't think it's completely on him. He was still calling him Venice years later. I think part of him misses when his OC wasn't morphed to be a shill character.
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Speaking of never letting someone cum, I've never seen that gif of Fortnite Shadow pissing emoji
Or that Colono image in full
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Sex with TAILSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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drew Barry today
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>>583585803
Sonic believes in his friends, Heroes was always IC. He had no reason to believe in 2 aurafarmhogs that both tried to kill him. 06 is OOC if anything
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>>583586743
We aren't zoomers, we don't play Fornite, if anything we learned the game exists because of the Sonic collab
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>>583586536
Wouldn't that precisely prove he is a flavor of the month? Because his popularity recently is based on literally nothing.
Not even saying he strictly is. He always had fans. But his surge in popularity can't be explained by him getting substantive material. It's almost completely just new fans coming in and judging him at a surface level due to SSS bullshit.
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>>583585803
This, Sonic is the super hero persona of a shy nerdy kid with glasses. Modernshitters ruined this series forevah, Naka's games are completely OOC and Sonic Team never understood Sonic
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>>583586879
Heroes was OOC. The characterization they use for Sonic isn't the same as his classic personality.
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>>583586495
>The content creators you push are all LARPers and total shit
Samprocrastinates, Emzberry, Fadel,. All of them being interconnected, astroturfed, woke shills from the same network pretending to be Sonic fans with organic engagement
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>>583587030
You already got btfo'd the other day when you said Sonic was never supposed to be cheeky. It's time you accept you were simply wrong and stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>583587030
>still clinging to Classic
Grow up already boomer, Modern is its own thing. Go play Mania or Gens or Superstars, those games were made to pander to YOU
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>>583586909
You could say the same about Blaze or Metal Sonic , but that didn't happen
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>>583587030
SA2 was when Tails proved himself to Sonic and Knuckles was brought iver because Tails invited him.
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>>583587257
Do you admit that Sonic was changed in the modern era
>>583587256
A bunch of modernteens using examples out of context doesn't change the original character
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>>583587257
>Modern is its own thing
So then is Sonic Adventure its own thing, or do you pretend it doesn't exist and it never happened?
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>>583587365
Knuckles leaving the Master Emerald in Heroes was also ooc
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>>583587412
>Do you admit that Sonic was changed in the modern era
Yes. Do you?

>>583587513
Adventure was the start of Modern
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Saying that Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic are not the same character in terms of personality and that Modern Sonic is written out of character is what terminal windfaggotry looks like
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>>583587265
Blaze is a cat in a meme spinoff and Metal is a larping meme bot.
It happened with them, just not to the same degree because they aren't literally 3foot3 Sonic shaped hedgehogs with a superform with the name S_____ the Hedgehog, standing next to the 2 most popular characters in the series who themselves are a rival duo in an attempt to present it as a trio.

Silver is presented as "the next Shadow" in what is effectively Sonic Adventure 3.
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>>583587365
>SA2 was when Tails proved himself to Sonic
I’d argue that was SA1, and SA2 further cemented it, but I digress. Heroes was after both anyways
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>>583587412
Sonic in the games from the 2000s has the same characterization as the games from the 90s. The way he is described in Japanese 90s game material is the same as how he appears in the rest of the Japanese game material. Sonic Team had repeatedly stated that how they characterized Sonic in Adventure and in the 2000s games is exactly how they intended the character to be when they created him.

>>583587640
You've been trying to make this a thing for a few days, but no windfag has ever said this. Stop trying to force your shitty narrative.
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>>583587557
Knuckles helping fight world-threatening foes is a form of protecting the emerald
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>>583587557
I can accept him leaving his post because Tails asked him for help stopping Eggman.

You want OoC? Explain whatever the fuck he was doing in Triple Trouble and Sonic R. I'll give Fighters a pass but its suss too.
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>>583587564
>Adventure was the start of Modern
So then can you explain to me how they can be two separate things when Sonic Adventure is just a 3D sequel that heavily references previous games? They only made adjustments to the character appearance, that does not give them different characterizations or make it a different series.
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>>583587816
>Sonic in the games from the 2000s has the same characterization as the games from the 90s. The way he is described in Japanese 90s
This is an idea only 2000s fans believe. Classic Sonic was nothing like the goofy wisecracker in the modern era. I don't think you actually believe what you say.
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>>583587640
It's not really windfaggotry. It's just Classicism.
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>>583587909
Triple Trouble was his dumb ass getting tricked again. Very in-character.
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>>583587729
We never needed another Shadow tho. Hell Shadow himself was meant to be another Sonic. Why the fuck do we need 3 Sonics? Is the true one not enough?
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>>583580360
They just infest everything. My little bro goes to high school and tells me there are so many troons there. It's just sad a lot of them are the youth today.
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The blackpill is that there is no Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic
Sonic is whatever the hell Sega wants him to be at that particular moment to gain the most money and profit possible. That's why being classic/adventure/modern era autist is fucking pointless
Sonic is just a BRAND in big fat letters
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> Bans Miia
> Allows Chris Chan in

Jesus tap-dancing Christ
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JP classicucks are the peak of headcanon
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>>583587265
Silver is no more significant or present than Blaze or Metal. All 3 can be vaulted for all I care
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>>583587735
SA1 was when Tails stepped into his own. SA2 was when Sonic fully recognized him. That's what the emerald exchange scene is establishing when Tails says Sonic is asking him to do something for him for the first time.
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>>583588029
No, it's what the people who made the character and the games said in interviews. Your denial isn't proof to the contrary.
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>>583588029
>Classic Sonic was nothing like the goofy wisecracker in the modern era.
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>>583588093
I thought he was still doing time.
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>>583587994
It was the first time any of them could speak, that alone inherently provides deeper and more robust characterization than anything in the classic games could. This is all a moot point anyways ever since Generations LITERALLY MADE them 2 distinct things
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>>583588075
New characters exist to bring in new fans. We have Silver and Shadow because the devs think Sonic couldn't do those kinds of stories or have the appeal they have
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>>583588093
Not the real one, obviously/
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I can't take Eggman holding a gun to Amy's head seriously. That isn't the character from the classic era.
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>>583588029
https://youtu.be/mpD0Jst1Qb4
Bro is saying this about the japanese on the 90s lol
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I hope they air the Movie 4 trailer this upcoming live stream because it's on a day off and I was planning on using my paid time to talk about it all day if it aired on a day I'm scheduled to work.
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>>583588483
>bring in new fans
And they did such a bang up job that they turned the fanbase against the whole idea of ANY friends doing anything. Silver is lucky he wasn’t immediately vaulted permanently
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>>583588050
>getting tricked again
Source?
Also explain R
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>>583588550
How did we get from Eggman pointing a gun to a 12-year-old's head and threatening to kill her to Eggdad in Frontiers?
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>>583587729
I respect Metal far more than Silver and Blaze.
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>>583588483
>the devs think Sonic couldn't do those kinds of stories or have the appeal they have
And they'd be correct. Sonic has very little range, which is why he's surrounded by other characters with more.
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>>583588478
>It was the first time any of them could speak
That's false. They could always speak.

>This is all a moot point anyways ever since Generations LITERALLY MADE them 2 distinct things
Yeah, they just had to erase a bit of history here and there in order to do that. Sonic Adventure effectively never happened (even though they reference it for nostalgiabait purposes), Angel Island is in a different dimension, and Classic Sonic doesn't talk.
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>>583588075
Because Shadow was popular. That's it. We didnt need more Shadows. I agree.
Metal was a legacy character so he gets some mercy. Blaze though? Surge tho?
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>>583588236
Metal was better when he was that thing in Eggman's attic that crawls out and stirred shit up imo.
He could have been the Gilgamesh of the franchise but Shadowsperging Classicucks pushed him to try and spite Shadow.
So now all he is known for is jobbing via StardustSpeedway references.
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>>583588857
That's why most Sonic lore that Sega makes up is fucking garbage and you should just ignore it all
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>>583588857
There was never a point where Adventure “never happened”, you’re making this up. And Classic Sonic doesn’t speak because the classic characters NEVER SPOKE. They literally never had VAs until Adventure
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>>583588723
The fuck do you mean source? Just check one of the manuals.
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>>583588483
what could those two possibly do that sonic can't, especially given how wildly varied sonic was between 2005 and 2011?
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>being utilitarian about the animal critters
>again
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>>583589235
>. They literally never had VAs until Adventure
Fake fan
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>>583589235
>Sonic CD - "I'm outta here!"
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>>583589235
>There was never a point where Adventure “never happened”, you’re making this up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrMCFQP1Mxw
Sonic Adventure never happened, enjoy Classic Sonic.

>They literally never had VAs until Adventure
Again, this is false.
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>>583588763
Same, but Metal is also objectively way more of a forced meme.
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Now that Evans ugly humans are getting on shirts can we start to panic now?
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>>583589175
I’ll give Metal the points over Silver and Blaze if for no other reason than that he is actually part of this reality. Those 2 only serve gimmicky timetravel/multiverse shit stories (that ST does not have the depth or talent to write)
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>>583589396
Forces being OOC and horribly written does not remove Adventure from existence, it purely means Forces is OOC and horribly written
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This is it.
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Gotta go fast
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RAWR
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>>583589253
Share it
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>>583588550
He scratched his ass in the game you're talking about
>>583589235
Sonic did have a voice in CD until that was removed in Origins to make lack of voices a part of the classic brand. A lot of decisions like that from SEGA starting with Generations onwards happened because for more than a decade, that's what the loudest American fans kept saying. No voices, Adventure Sonic isn't real Sonic, stupid friends, stupid 3D, only the classic games are good and so on.
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Sex with Mobian vtubers
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>>583588620
I don't want those obnoxious, fake fan, paid shill live streamers and their alphabet glazers to ruin the trailer. These live streamers have ruined the fandom
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>>583589868
Yeah, sure, here's both. They both say it. You read it, though.
https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Triple_Trouble/Manuals
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>>583589396
>adventure never happened.
The game never says that though?
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Nothing fucking matters in this series, nothing makes sense, everything is disposable and can change on the fly based on Sega's shitty management and business decisions
There is point in caring about anything and if you do you are just wasting your energy
Why even care about anything?
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>>583589909
>>583589923
There should be an oc called Shill the Shrimp
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You guys were wrong! The discord server still exists!

It is just paywalled now!
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Why did Kenny sue over Shade but not over Silver?
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I make my own canon
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>>583589685
Tails literally says Classic Sonic is another dimension. When Forces released that's how it was presented. They acted as if the Adventure games didn't exist, with Classic and Modern as two separate series that occasionally have crossovers. The Classic world with the islands and the mute characters, and the Modern world with Green Hill on a random continent, Knuckles free from the Master Emerald, and SEGA pretending all those games that had humans everywhere never existed.

>>583590007
You're only saying this because we've had years of things like TailsTube reassuring us that it did and now they've gone back to their single timeline explanation. Back when Forces released they didn't acknowledge those games at all and that was one of the many reasons Forces was hated. They've done a good job at memoryholing it.
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>>583589885
I'm surprised they didn't just delete Modern Sonic all together and let Classic Sonic be the only one
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>>583590089
what if i ignore sega and just enjoy what i like and make things inspired by it
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>>583580942
Does that mean blaze will piss on silver at some point and her entire castle smell like piss?
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>>583589441
We are panicking! the memes are at an all time high!
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>>583590329
>They acted as if the Adventure games didn't exist, with Classic and Modern as two separate series that occasionally have crossovers.
Again, you made this part up. Adventure is part of Modern, nothing tried to erase Adventure
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>>583584449
Plenty of characters don't need to imagine.
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>>583590541
>nothing tried to erase Adventure
Forces did.
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>>583589859
Uhh...Meow?
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>>583587909
>Triple Trouble
I think there was a fan-theory that it takes place between the Sonic/Tails and Knuckles campaigns in S3K...
>Sonic R
No clue lol
Oh, wait! Knuckles' Chaotix takes place in the southern seas or whatever, which is the settibg of the racecourses. I'm sure you can run with that.
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Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
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>>583590701
No it didn’t. It was OOC to Adventure at least for Tails, but it didn’t act like it didn’t exist. I mean Chaos was literally there
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Don't talk to me about game design until you beat Daggerfall without using fast travel.
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>>583586879
>they are friends
Tails and knuckes had NOTHING in common , they barely talk. Add Amy and shit gets worse
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>>583589923
Just ignore chat. I only talk about Sonic here and sparingly on xitter anyway.
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>>583589448
Silver and Blaze being from out of the current setting at least gives them something to do. You can at least imagine them doing shit in their time/dimension. Metal is an Eggman robot so he is just fucked by his premise.
The only reason he is still around but not Mecha is because he is Hoshino's pet.

Metal can only thrive as a novelty. There isn't anywhere else to take his character. Except maybe making him tsundere for Amy.
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>>583590147
Me too. Freedom is freedom.
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>>583590783
BOO
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So it's been revealed that Hit Detection, the same woke video game consulting company that worked on Sonic Frontiers, also worked on Gears of War: E Day, which explains why it has pride flags in it. Jacob Geller a consultant at Hit Detection, recently to sexual assault. Will this knock sense into Sonic Team and convince them to stop letting Hit Detection ruin Sonic games?
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>>583591063
For all of the (very legitimate) criticisms against IDW, they've at least tried to remedy this to some extent. There's been one issue each of trying to get Knuckles to be more obviously connected to both Amy and Tails.
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>>583590912
>I mean Chaos was literally there
And they ignored everything about his story and lore. He literally only appears in two non-gameplay cutscenes that they only put in the game so they could bait Adventurefags with the trailers. To top it all off they made that be the character Tails is scared of, as if they didn't realize that fans of that game would be upset given Tails' story in that same game.

But all of that is just a small detail. This is an issue with Forces in its entirety. Tails says Classic Sonic is from another dimension. Forces shows us what the Modern Sonic world is, and it doesn't match what we see in Sonic Adventure. The world of Modern Sonic, according to Forces, is a world where humans and animal people don't coexist, with locations like Angel Island being elsewhere. It tells us that the stories of Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 & Knuckles, happened in a different world. All of this is the complete opposite of Sonic Adventure, where humans, animal people, Angel Island, and "Classic" and "Modern" stories all coexist. SEGA in 2017 was very much trying to erase any traces of anything of the stories, lore, and gameplay from 1998 to 2009. It was one of the many reasons Forces was disliked, and they've been trying to remedy at least the story/lore part of that with fanservice Internet content in recent years.
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>but Silver I am your father
*Mwwwwwwah*
*Savors all of Shadow's teeth with his mouth slowly*
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I have freedom and liberty. You can't tell me how to write Sonic.
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>>583591542 (me)
*recently admitted to sexual assault
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>>583591542
No, they'll do it again. Or they'll switch to another one. It's not SoJ's call. SoA is pulling them in, guaranteed. And we all know what SoA is like.
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>>583589959
Neat. I remember people on here arguing that he wasn't tricked on this game back on the day and it wasnt specified.
My b
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>>583591542
Hope they keep using it so you kill yourself
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>>583590329
>When Forces released that's how it was presented.
No? Episode Shadow acknowledged the Adventure games and Chaos was a heavy part of Forces' promotion, while locations such as Chemical Plant or Death Egg are treated as recurring ones in spite of these mostly being classic-only at that point. I am not sure what the line about classic meant, they might have wanted to have a separate version of classic that's disconneted from the main brand to easily make more classic content, but went back on it after that didn't work out and Mania's sales weren't enough to matter to SEGA. We'll probably never know for sure.
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>>583591720
I have freedom and liberty. You can't tell me how to draw human women in Sonic.
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>>583591706
>osomatsu yaoi
didn't think I'd ever see that here
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>583591706
>but anon im a LARPer secondary!
>ohh..
THEN KILL YOURSELF AND GET THE FUCK OUT MY FANDOM
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>>583590329
>another dimension
It's a translation issue.
In Rush "sekai" got translated to dimension. Same thing with Silver and hia future on Rivals.
What Tails is saying is Classic Sonic is from another world because he is implying Classic is another timeline.

But even then that doesn't imply Adventur didnt happen. Chaos is right there lol
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>>583590896
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>>583591823
Shut up, Violet/Slashy.
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>>583591537
ah
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>>583589709
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>>583591596
That just seems to have been them trying to ignore games people spoke negatively of for so long at that time. They did the same for every game since Unleashed, where they avoided acknowledging things like GUN or even Shadow's backstory for some time.
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>>583591970
Cry more
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>>583591991
>Violet
I don't support hit detection nor do I like woke companies ruining characters.
I have always been an anti-SJW.
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I know it's not directly related but it should be brought up that if the Japanese Yen continues to crater like it has been then SEGA is almost definitely going to go out of business
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>>583591953
Is not that weird
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This discord server...
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>>583591991
Dogs dont speak tranny and your leader is a waste of oxygen latina that send her nudes when she was younger
>v*olet/sparky
Another waste of oxygen
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>>583592287
Silver doesn't deserve his VA
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>>583591063
>add Amy and shit gets worse
You mean better?
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>>583591596
You’re giving the writers too much credit. Those were all simply poor/badly executed ideas. There was no concerted effort to erase Adventure, if anything it was just SoA getting too much influence and putting in their own lore ideas that clashed, mixed with SoJ’s general incompetence
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How come Americans are binary when talking about things such as Sonic the Hedgehog, weebs and localizations, and politics?
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>>583591991
Sparky has never cared about hit detection. He just wants the games to conform to his insane foundational structure that he constantly adjusts whenever it gets challenged.
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Tailscel...
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>>583592380
For once I will agree with you, because his English VA is more cute and better
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>>583591837
I'm sure you realize there's a difference between recycling some iconography with a couple remixes and actually acknowledging something as part of the story.

>>583591974
>It's a translation issue.
This is cope. They literally did want them to be two distinct universe in 2017, and that was the case until the recent TailsTube reretcons. Same applies to two worlds.
I already replied to the Chaos thing. These observations were not contentious in 2017, I'm glad we got to the point where people don't remember it used to be like this, although it is also sad that people will now defend SEGA pretending it never happened.

>>583592080
Indeed it is, and it culminated in Forces trying to erase their stories and lore from the series' lore. I'm happy that the backlash to that made them walk back from that decision, but it never should have happened in the first place.
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>>583592246
It can't possibly be that ba-
Jesus christ
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>>583591734
I've heard someone claim (but not prove) that Hit Detection is still working on Sonic games but are just not being credited for it due to the backlash against Sweet Baby Inc. Do you think it's true? Hit Detection is in the credits of Gears of War: E Day even after all the backlash against Sweet Baby Inc so why would Sonic Team want to hide the fact they worked with Hit Detection? Also, can Takashi Iizuka please explain to us why SOA continues to have so much corrosive and corruptive influence on the franchise despite him being an SOA executive since 2023 and having the power to stop it?
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>>583584509
it was 13-15 before, it's probably 14 to match blaze. (who also was supposed to be a sonic parallel like jet also kinda is but 14)
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/sthg/ is the only place that cope with the "two worlds was only for the interviews! It didnt show the difference in games!"
Like there is delusional and then there is /sthg/
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>>583587143
Sam is one of the worst "creators" I have ever seen.
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>>583592776
Gears E-Day is probably a good written game, but I don't care either way if there's a little woke in it. In fact part of me likes that, while the other part is tired of modern political arguments
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Dam i bet this trannoid was suicidal when silver was 3rd in that dengeki poll.
Just go to therapy trannoid lmao
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>>583592829
>/sthg/ is the only place that cope with the "two worlds was only for the interviews! It didnt show the difference in games!"
It didn't, though. There was literally no difference in human and blobian worlds in the games. In fact, the existence of the Genesis-era islands, especially Angel Island, in the same world as the humans meant that it never made sense to begin with. Also Forces was the game it supposedly was the strongest evidence of and that game's fuck-ass world map had all of the island locations from the Genesis era on a massive mega-continent with each other, so I wouldn't trust anything from that game in the first place.
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>>583592080
Why should I take ANY Sonic lore and worldbuilding seriously at all when Sega are so easily willing to just avoid and bury it all just because a bunch of literal whos didn't like it?
The lore and worldbuilding in Sonic doesn't even matter at that point when Sega themselves doesn't believe in it and just throws it aside
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>>583592757
>>583592246
But this chart shows it's as high as it was in 1995
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>>583592757
It's actually even worse than what that graph is showing. The Japanese government has started to default on some of their international loans because they're being forced to spend more money than their budget allows on oil and diesel to keep things running.
Let me repeat that for anyone who's financially illiterate, the Japanese government itself is fucking defaulting on loans.
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>>583592921
They're all so obnoxious and you get the impression that their reactions are all fake just by watching them. Those streamers are all just part of SOA's influencer-based marketing strategy
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>>583593267
>it's as high as it was in 1995
ABANDON SHIP!
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>>583593342
Sega of America is scheming and evil
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>>583590541
The Classic/Modern split is inherently incompatible with Sonic Adventure existing. A game like Sonic Adventure (or Heroes, or the Advance series) would have never been made if Sonic Team always operated under the 2010s/2020s Classic/Modern split
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>>583593267
Line going up for treasury yields on loans is a bad thing, it means that the government has to take out and promise more money to the loaners in order for them to get the funding necessary to continue operations.
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>>583593298
Japan has fallen out of the tech race compared to China and Korea and Taiwan.

And I get the impression hundreds of isekai anime released a year does not give you another demon slayer tier hit
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>>583593267
As high as 1995 and climbing rapidly meaning it's not going to stop anytime soon.
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Sega of America when they see Japanese Sonic being windy
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>>583592178
>leeching Amy
Creamtranny...
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Just lift the economic sanctions on Russia, Iran, and Venezuela and Japan will able to recover. The price of crude oil impacts the price of everything else
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>>583592757
That's....kind of terrifying actually.
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>china buys Japan
> Sonic is forced to quote the mao red book every 5 minutes
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>>583593260
Because this is the case for nearly any series that can't afford to survive by appealing to its niche fanbase, which not many series can do, especially when considering how many of Sonic's contemporaries died.
>literal whos
These were far more prevalent for at least a decade, and they insisted on having things be their way or else the series is doomed. It was wrong of Sega to listen to them, but that's talking in hindsight.
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Sonic is a HERO
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>>583592482
Because western thought is like that in general. Black and white and vertical thinking plague western thought. It's ehy western culture is so susceptible to subversion
Christianity itself was a subversion.
Dialectical thinking leads to this mentality in general.
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>Japan is so shit that it's going to kill Sonic through government incompetence.
Uhhh JPfags, your response?
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>>583594162
If SoJ goes, kill the series. I don't want SoA to have it.
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>>583592667
>They literally did want them to be two distinct universe in 2017
Forces itself has DERs and The Death Egg.
They wanted Classic to be its own timeline. Not seperate all the classic games from everything with Green Eyes. That's literally just a Retrofag meme.
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>>583594162
Government incompetence isn’t really a reason to prefer the US the Japan
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>>583594162
If Sonic was good, it would be a strong cultural export able to save the motherland. But alas, Sonic not good.
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>>583592757
This is what happens when your entire economy is based around NEET shut-ins that do nothing but consume internet pop culture and forever LARPing as teenagers.
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>>583592812
Meanwhile Shadow is stated to be physically 15 in his docs.
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>>583594162
>>583594263
You're right. Give the series to Sega of Europe and Sega Hardlight.
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>>583592667
>Indeed it is, and it culminated in Forces trying to erase their stories and lore from the series' lore. I'm happy that the backlash to that made them walk back from that decision, but it never should have happened in the first place.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hate this whole "screaming the loudest contest". I hate Sega being so easily tardwrangled by people into doing whatever changes they want
This company doesn't have a fucking spine to stand their ground. I thought japanese people were supposed to be stubborn as fuck and only let people enjoy something in the way the made it but Sega are so easily willing to just change, delete and bury anything in this series just because of loudmouth people on the internet screaming about it
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>>583594342
So Americans?
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>>583594220
It has the Death Egg the same way it has Sonic and Vector. They considered those part of the Modern Sonic dimension, those were just things that had counterparts in both dimensions. This is how it was presented in 2017, and fans of the Adventure games rightfully hated it and preferred the Generations explanation of it being the past. Some tried to headcanon that it was a split timeline after Generations, but that was never indicated in any official capacity, it was just a fan theory at best.

>>583594571
Same, but at least in this case they went back on a decision that they had only made because it was demanded like that in the first place. None of this should have happened.
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>>583594449
creambros, our girl is going to be the lead character of the franchise
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*hides your post*
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>>583594571
>This company doesn't have a fucking spine to stand their ground. I thought japanese people were supposed to be stubborn as fuck and only let people enjoy something in the way the made it but Sega are so easily willing to just change, delete and bury anything in this series just because of loudmouth people on the internet screaming about it
Because of westshit and also thr Sammy side of the company doesnt care and just sees Sonic as a gambling front.
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>>583594162
Look at what Japan likes.
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>>583594827
That's a tiny section in what I'm sure is a larger store
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>ctrl - f SOA
>7
Yep, another Krack melty.
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>>583594669
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>japan cannot sustain itself because they export food/resources
>dogshit usa had to make things worse becsuse the leader is one of the biggest manchilds ever
...i am loving usa downfall each day , that dogshit country vote the most incompetend clown for memes and le scary sjw. Your society is so dogshit only a nuke and a total reboot can help it.

Anyway SEGA will keep generating decent money but they will stop with taking risk investments and will only do safe IPs
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>>583595068
shhhh Krack and her simps will get angry, they all voted for the orange idiot.
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>>583594732
>It has the Death Egg the same way it has Sonic and Vector
You're coping. The interior of the Death Egg is even designed like Sonic 3s.
>>583594732
>This is how it was presented in 2017, and fans of the Adventure games rightfully hated it and preferred the Generations explanation of it being the past.
You dont speak for all of us. What really happened is Classicucks started pushing the narrative that it was implying Modern and Classic were compeltley seperate and had nothing to do with eachother (an attitude they had been pushing for years) ans some people got autistic and became oppositional as a retaliation. This happens all the time in thos fandom so I dont know why you are pretending otherwise.

I was there on Retro pointing out both sides were being retarded and I wasnt alone. And when people started saying it is just a split timeline, Classicboomers called as copers. Like what you are doing.

That was never the intention of Forces. It was always splitting Classic off as its own branch but now we are stuck with 1 timeline autism

It never made sense to say Classic was fully separated because the Modern casts' backgrounds are still from Classic.
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>>583593342
>obnoxious and fake
That's basically the people Sega panders to. They want LARPers after all.
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>>583595068
Japan doesn't export. They're a net importer.
That's a trade imbalance. Now Japan is being humbled.
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>>583595068
Let me guess, Canadian?
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>>583594827
imaginenif a huge collapse happens within sega and only the hellokitty shit survives
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>>583595267
Nah, this level of seethe (and ESL) is 100% a Euroid.
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>>583595153
I know that trash is a self hated latina. She send her nudes to strange people after all. Waste of oxygen
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>>583595308
IDW has the Hello Kitty and Sonic licenses.
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>>583595379
CROSSOVER COMIC WHEN?
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>>583594965
He is talking about the content. Uwu Sonic was born in Japan and it keeps spreading because of Japan (despite being a minority). If Sonic was American only we would get more Shadow-like games
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>>583582327
And while Elise had to pay for his dad's faults by ultimately letting sonic go, She still got to keep the feelings and some phantom memories of him.
This whole thing is also why i prefer CD to be before 2, i feel like Sonic and amy's themes and story usually play a bigger part or ''origin'' to everything than sonic and tails's. even the mary garnet thing.
also why the whole ''sibling coded or lovers'' thing of shadaria and silvaze stuff, it doesn't matter if you see them as sibling or star-crossed lovers, it still remains that amy and sonic sharing a piece of what they had with others and inspiring them is still part of the reading with these.
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>>583595221
The intention of Forces was to erase the Adventure games so as to only have Classic and Modern, catering to the "Classicucks" who were "pushing the narrative". This type of pandering to that particular group was characteristic of the Sonic series throughout the 2010s, see also: Sonic 4 Ep 1, Sonic Colors, Sonic Generations, Sonic Lost World.
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>>583595321
I mean let's be honest, there's no difference at this point with their government
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>>583595613
>The intention of Forces was to
Where is the interview where this is said by literally anyone on the dev team?
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In the latest interview iizuka confirmed classic as his own thing and different from modern (not only 2d vs 3d)
Forces won
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>>583593727
DSS is from the Japanese anime tho
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>>583594369
Yeah, i think the intention with Blaze/Jet/Silver was for them to be a bit more immature.
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>>583595904
cringe queerbait
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>>583595068
>le scary sjw
Why are you pretending leftoid shit wasn't the reason he got voted?
Both wings are on thr same amercan bird lol.


>>583594571
It is the world we live in for better but mostly worst.
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>>583592662
The jp va is better because he's supposed to be gap moe.
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>>583595904
BASED HOMO KINO
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>>583595979
>Never cuddled w the bros
What are you a homo
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>>583595904
Why did you cut the part where they all sleep together and kiss each other like brothers
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Sallyfags are the Princess Morbucks of Sonic
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>>583595252
Like I said, the U.S and Europe need to lift economic sanctions they've placed on Iran, Russia, China, and Venezuela and Japan's GDP can grow faster than the Japanese government borrows money, which would allow for the Yen to have higher interest rates and therefore, more value
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>>583596053
I'll gap his anus
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>>583595904
Pretty much the most accurate IC fanart to date. Literally IC, all three of them.
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>>583595979
You struck a nerve.
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lol at the Sonic discord falling apart. I knew it would be a disaster but I didn’t think it get that bad that quickly.
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>>583595758
Where is GUN in Sonic Forces? Answer with only official information from 2017

>Where is the interview where this is said by literally anyone on the dev team?
https://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/06/10/more-burning-questions-about-the-sonic-the-hedgehog-franchise-answered
Also partially relevant https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/19/16333174/sonic-adventure-3-will-never-happen/
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>>583596531
>I didn’t think it get that bad that quickly.
It's Sonic.
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>(S)He doesn't fap to Sonic characters
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BoC fanart
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>>583596659
Cute
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>>583596659
Kind of impressive that even in Japan, where they've kept her much closer to how she used to be, they still say stuff like this.
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>>583596531
...why? Aaron weber damaged what is sonic beyond recognition but people are too stupid to see it
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The Rouge the Bat game has just hit its 90k stretch goal. Goes to show yet again that sex sells...And that censoring Amy's panty shots have no doubt lost a massive amount of sales.
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>>583596967
*06 damaged what is Sonic beyond recognition but dark age tards are too stupid to see it
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>the Discord didn't even last a day
>it's already been shut down
If only there was a way to see that one fucking coming. Sega finds yet another way to be stupid.
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Sonic was never good. You were just a kid.
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>>583596967
>>583597036
*Shadow the Hedgehog
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>>583597097
>>it's already been shut down
Proof?
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AARON WEBBER SPENT FOUR YEARS AWAY TO LEARN GAME DEV
I REPEAT, AARON WEBBER SPENT FOUR YEARS AWAY TO LEARN GAME DEV
WE ARE GETTING AARON WEBBER'S SEGA TECHNICAL INSTITUTE, ANONS
ARE YOU READY?
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>>583597036
SoA shill, why are you here? Afraid Japan's going to have writing control again with their new scenario writer?
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>>583597182
I don't care
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>Where's my funny kiss, Aunt Sally?
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>>583597182
>it's real
We're fucked, aren't we?
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>>583597182
I always liked Aaron Webber, despite the GameGrumps misstep. I'll be looking forward to it if you're not lying
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>>583597127
Heroes even, but yeah, dark age really did fuck over Sonic anyway.
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>>583597154
It still exists just paywalled now
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>>583597182
>>583597280
?Releases best Sonic clone in existence
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>>583597326
*Sonic 1
Real purists know Sonic was only ever good in concept
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>>583597036
06 being a mess was a problem, but it still tried to handle things like characterization well. Aaron Webber sought to market Sonic to Western trends, and SoA in general was willing to go along with getting rid of most of the series just to appeal to that. Even putting something like 4 Episode 1's marketing campaign and the irony-focused marketing in general, the reason why the Sonic fanbase is in the state it is now, is partially due to so much of a focus being given to trying to be trendy with loud Western people.
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>>583597340
It’s ded ded
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Shadow 05 would've been successful if it didn't have gratuitous swearing, bad localization, and a cheesy scene in the opening custscene where Shadow cocks his machine gun like a shotgun
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Consider the following
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Fucking ignorant animal
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>but it still tried to handle things like characterization well
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA oh it's contrarian hours now isn't it.
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>>583597441
>4 Episode 1's marketing campaign
This was Ken Balough, Aaron Webber's predecessor
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>>583597441
Silvazetard detected
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>>583597484
Proof?

>>583597610
Why are you schizoing out over a simple fact
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>knowing all these different staff members and e-celebs by name
Gross.
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>>583597610
It's not really contrarian, Shadow's character and story is universally liked, Amy's is generally liked if people aren't bad faith, Sonic is IC even if he's not put in exciting situations for people, and it's Silver's debut so he is automatically IC
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>>583597775
I just went to check it out and it was gone
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>>583597617
My bad.
>>583597610
Even a few threads ago, 06's characterization of some characters was being used as examples of good writing for them. I am not sure what's contrarian about saying that when it's one of the aspects people like about that game.
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>>583597543
it was a success though.
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>>583595795
I wouldn't mind the Classic/Modern brand split if Classic wasn't "muh past" and both brands were all able to use any character, lore and locations from across the whole the series
Classic brand not being allowed to use SA1 lore is so dumb since it's the literal continuation of what Sonic 3K established. Superstars isn't any better continuation of Sonic 3K either, the only interesting thing that Superstars did was bringing back Fang. The Sungazer tribe and North Star Island lore didn't really add anything interesting and significant, most people have already forgotten about it
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>>583597807
You're free to leave

>>583597862
I understand why people don't find most of Sonic's scenes entertaining, but after I actually paid attention to them and listened to the dialogue he's actually really charming. Of course it's hard to hear though when people expect action

>>583597972
Unfortunately there's this attitude that mindlessly shitting on the game is reasonable and the expectation that any negative talk around it is good and should never be scrutinized or criticized because the game is just so objectively bad and stuff and if you disagree you're ruining the series
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>people are giving aaron a free pass
This clown turned sonic into self deprecation for likes and views
You people are so retarded is not even funny , but these are the same retards that consoom ian slop for ages because "le epic reference" and gave him and evan the keys to idw after the praised mediocrity on archie.
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>>583598149
>You're free to leave
Why would I? Just because I think you're gross? Get over yourself.
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>>583595795
Link?
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>>583597570
Never ask your local racist leader about his wife
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>>583597862
>Shadow's character and story is universally liked
And made birth to friendow, team darkslop.

>Amy's is generally liked if people aren't bad faith
Figures you would like Amy being cucked there more than once, bestie.

> Sonic is IC even if he's not put in exciting situations for people
Nearly all the cutscenes has him quite literally on his most bland, unironic hero mode self with little of Sonic in it. Sonic doesn't emote at all.

>it's Silver's debut so he is automatically IC
Silver is a failed godawful shitty character.
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>>583598302
So you don't get grossed out anymore
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>>583598009
Initially but not in the long run. The game's English version is what caused Shadow to be seen as a total joke of a character and for the dark game tone to be dismissed, which paved the way for the meta era and the safe edgy slop and baby slop we're seeing today
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>>583598343
>bestie
Are you enjoying the weather outside?
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>>583598517
That's false though.
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>>583598149
>>You're free to leave
/sthg/ is not your personal gossip space army.
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4 years is not enough experience to be anything important to Sonic.
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>>583598489
No one asked you to care about that, babe. Go back to stalking staff members.
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>>583598653
We talk about people who work on the series and the things they do and have done for the series
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>>583598701
If he can use unreal engine, he's already on par with the Frontiers team
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Shadow has a cute tiny nub
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>>583598343
That was mostly archiefags projecting into it, 06 Shadow is mostly the same as sa2 shadow and the devotion rouge has is mostly one-sided. It's literally maekawadow, pure as it gets.

Amy doesn't really get cucked,even if she did, it isn't the point, it's how her love effects and connects to every story's theme.

Silver is currently more popular than anyone not core4 + shadow.

Sonic does emote and do his usual wind fairytale stuff. we even see him sad or bashful.

Most of the complaints about this game were more about it being a glitchy mess than the story. story complaints in general began mostly with either people looking for plotholes or characterfag/shipfag agenda.
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No one is forced to learn about literal whos on sega
After the movies this shit franchise is beyond salvation
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>>583598975
No one forced you to do anything, you were just advised to leave if you don't like it here.
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>>583598919
The problem is that sonic plot is the same talk to elise , fight , she gets captured again. He gets the most relaxed moments of anyone
If the bitch didnt kiss him they would give her a pass thats for sure.
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>>583598780
>we
Fuck off you nigger
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>>583598975
Speaks to a level of unhealthy obsession with a game franchise.
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>>583599102
And stop venting my frustrations? You're all my pawns.
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>>583599137
That has nothing to do with characterization

>>583599142
Me and the other people I was talking with. Did you perhaps mistakenly think you were included in that? I have no idea why you would make such a mistake
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>>583598640
It is true. That's why Shadow only appeared in 06 after Shadow 05 and then didn't appear in any mainline game until Shadow Generations
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>>583598919
>Silver is currently more popular than anyone not core4 + shadow.
Pft. Yeah, okay.
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>>583599308
>Me and the other people I was talking with. Did you perhaps mistakenly think you were included in that? I have no idea why you would make such a mistake
ESL spic.
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rally4sally of america vs rally4sally of japan
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>>583599416
He was in Generations and Forces.
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>>583599137
Yeah but that isn't really a characterization issue or even an issue besides personal preferences, I actually like elise and her relationship with sonic(at least more than i used to) though i still prefer shadow and silver story.
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>>583598517
What made Shadow a joke in the first place is showing up again after SA2 when he was deliberately visually shown to die and everyone on cast lamenting over it. This was all undone with Heroes.

You don't actually like these characters, you are just a bootlicker to shitty muh kino slop.
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>>583599628
>I actually like elise and her relationship with sonic(at least more than i used to)
Same
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>>583598919
tonight i remind the delulu
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>>583599521
>rally4sally of japan
Doesn't exist
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I noticed when I was reading IDW that my internal voice for Amy varied depending on how she was written. If she was written like she used to be, I heard Liza Ortiz's voice. If she was written like she is now, I heard Cindy Robinson.
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>>583599434
Rouge,Chaotix, Blaze, Big Cream or Babylon Rogues aren't popular as silver, but you wouldn't use their games to mock either the writing or gameplay for your agenda.
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They will come back
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>>583599756
>https://x.com/Ral4Sal
It's a chinese guy who lives in Japan
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>>583599731
>>583599842
Point still stands.
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>>583599842
I will never comprehend the delusion of Silver fans.
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>>583599979
very cute
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>>583599308
I mean sonic has barely characterization in 06
Elise does all the talking
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>>583599434
How do I explain an Amybestie that nobody cares about Amy? Next film is a Metal Sonic film not an Amy film, never forget that
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>>583599731
fake poll. We all know Blaze is more popular than most of the cast
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>>583599776
Jennifer and Taeko mogs both
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>>583600057
These aren't a list of characters i like more than silver, these are the list of characters who are objectively less popular than him.
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I don't get it. He's just bootleg Trunks. He's also a drooling idiot who cannot stop fucking up.
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>>583600094
Sonic, when IC, doesn't talk much in general, even in the games where so called "purists" like to accuse him of talking too much... like this one
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>>583599731
I bet this trannoid was crying IRL when this hit lmao
Imagine need to go to therapy because Silver makes you seethe that much
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>>583596816
Even JPbros are championing for 2000s Amy and celebrating her in BoC
It's our time
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>>583600339
But he's FURRY bootleg Trunks.
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>>583600103
>nobody cares about Amy? Next film is a Metal Sonic film not an Amy film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZgUSKTbNaI
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>>583597182
Aaron is a good egg all things considered even tho he's made mistakes. If he rardwrangles SoA into shape, that can only be good.
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>>583600419
If you asked them do you think they would actually know who Amy is
These reactions are just normalfags going along with the hype, doing what the movie communicates they should do, and following the socially contagious example of others. They don't even care about the movies they watch
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Fall Sally
Fally
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>>583600626
Holy fuck, the cope on display here.
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did you draw today?
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>"It's not my [Sonic' dub] fault. It's not your [Sonic's dub] fault."
>"In denial, you simply resort to looking for another, more conventient "truth" in order to feel better.
>“No one is invalidated, but nobody is right.”
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>>583600834
fuck off fag, we do ai here
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uh oh Bestie meltdown
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>>583600419
>That girl screaming
Exactly like Amy, girls are neurotic and let their emotions run wild. Also the reason why nobody likes Amy
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>>583597862
>Sonic is IC even if he's not put in exciting situations for people
This. The problem isn't Sonic's writing per se. He just isn't in situations people cared about. He is as Sonic as ever in the opening and ending cutscenes but isn't as expressive as he should be in engine. But thats true of everyone
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>>583600779
They're not reacting to Amy. They're reacting to the epic mysterious character entrance teasing the next movie that they're socially expected to feign interest in for 30 seconds. It could have been Sally, it could have been Chris Thorndyke, it could have been Spongebob, the reaction would have been the same.
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>>583600414
Yes, but I refer you back to the part about him being a useless retard. The actual Trunks is cool. And competent. And it also helps that he's likeable. Silver is none of those things.
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>>583600892
you should still draw
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>>583598059
>Classic brand not being allowed to use SA1 lore is so dumb
I disagree. I don't see the point if you arent gonna make it go do its own things.
That's just make shit confusing for people.
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>>583599625
I forgot about that but an 11-year Shadow absence between 06 and Forces is pretty long for his character considering how popular he is
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>>583600394
>doesn't talk much in general
He's not silent. Colors and Lost World has him talkative and are Sonic Team games, and Unleashed has him giving friendship speeches to Chip, also Sonic Team game.
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>>583601126
The split was always confusing regardless.
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Lil bro tons of kids and teenagers watched sonic boom , the show with the pink rat
Stop being retarded
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>>583600982
And? most normies like character for basic surface appeal rather than deep diving like characterfags or autists, that is true of everyone.
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>>583600982
>They're not reacting to Amy.
The cheering gets louder when the pink blur is revealed to be her hammer, and then even louder when her hood comes off. You're coping. Poorly.
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>>583600982
>mysterious character
>who is shown wielding a very familiar hammer
Anon, just take the L, man.
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>>583601091
Cuuuute!
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>>583599731
>Japanese poll

What part of "Sonic doesn't have an audience in Japan" do you fuckers not get
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>>583601249
Embarrasingly, that's how I know many fans of Silver and Shadow are. Maybe not embarrasingly, I respect the casuals more than the autists.
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Daily reminder to not believe blazefags, they're trying to separate us
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>>583601227
>tons of kids

Lol no.
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>>583600182
To be fair, Lisa Ortiz's Amy sounds like Taeko Kawata's. Lisa's was my favorite
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>>583601373
we don't have any international polls. do we?
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Amy is a notorious flop.
Blaze is dimes.
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>>583601205
>He's not silent.
I've never said he is. He is not silent in that game either. He is not Prime/Paramount levels of talkative

>>583601330
It's familiar to you and I, not to the people in the video. Proof of this is even in the introduction scene itself, it covers her face to have a surprising slow reveal
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>>583601335
he helped yesterday's theme nicely, he's always a delight to draw
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>>583601373
Sega dick riders are desperate to pretend otherwise.
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>>583600834
No :(

>>583601091
Cute! Good job
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>>583601648
>Sonic takes first place in the east
>Shadow takes first place in the west
>Tails it usually not that far behind
>There's a power gap between the top 2 or 3 and the rest
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>>583601669
>It's familiar to you and I
Bitch, anyone going to see a Sonic the Hedgehog movie knows who the fuck Amy Rose is. Just stop already. This is second-hand embarrassing.
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>>583599434
>>583600057
Shut your pajeet ass up Blazetard
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>>583601909
Why do the Speed Simulator devs hate Silver?
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>>583601223
The only thing that's holding that stupid split together are the character designs. It is that weak and fragile
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>>583601648
Cream...
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>>583601912
Did you somehow forget that these movies are introducing the series to tons of children (and their parents) who never knew about it before, right after a decade of said series being close to dying
Us historical fans are a tiny minority nowadays
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>>583602175
Even the kids know, pretty much most merch and kartuuns use core 4.
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>>583601909
>Fucking discord poll as evidence
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>>583602097
My Sonic has a dark blue shade, medium length quills, shorter proportions, green eyes, and tan eyelids
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>>583601373
There is more sonic merch in Japan than Oshi no Ko merch and that series has pop up stores regularly.
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>583601026
>reason why they beat solaris + beat nega twice + reason why they got the phantom ruby
saved the people from the zombot virus + saved shadow from the fake emeralds
Sounds like he did his part

Sounds like he is useful
Lmao
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>>583602361
That is somehow close to >>583601648
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>>583602075
That one is a Blazefag by the fact that he mentioned her before Knuckles
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>>583602175
Kids these days, assuming we're talking about 6-10, have parents who are the same age as us. Older millennials who are definitely familiar with StH even just by dint of being on the internet. You're out of your fucking mind.

>>583601983
... Okay, I'll bite. What exactly is this supposed to prove?
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>>583602361
No worse than this nothingness >>583599731
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>>583602445
It's not even a contest between him and Blaze, like what did Blaze do to be useful?
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>>583602554
>parents who are the same age as us. Older millennials who are definitely familiar with StH even just by dint of being on the internet
Are you sure that the ones who know about Sonic and the ones who have kids have that much of an overlap?
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>arch.b4k.co is down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1HSQ5s9PLg
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Why are people pretending shitdow wasnt called sonic exe in the reaction post credit scenes?
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>>583599660
Shadow coming back was fine imo. When I played Heroes, my reaction wasn't that it was cheap how Shadow came back, it was intrigued and hype that he seems to be back somehow.

I feel 90sboomers christcuckery makes them pedestalize deaths in irrational ways. Bringing characters back from the dead can be and often is cheap, but o think because of the way Wester comicslop did it, it created an automatic disgust reaction to it at face value.

Shadow's death and return still had consequences and wasn't used to bring him back to a status quo. And Shadow's death itself wasn't the point, so much as it was an atonement for his actions.
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>>583602750
uh no everyone knows who amy is even newborn kids her hammer is just THAT iconic
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>>583602731
Yes. Contrary to apparently popular belief, nerds do in fact breed.
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Sonic autists should NOT have kids
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>>583602554
>... Okay, I'll bite. What exactly is this supposed to prove?
You endorse things that are popular to get them bought in the first place, fuck you mean what does this prove?
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>caring about how many normgroid cattle like your character
Weaklings all of you, my character is for ME and nobody else, i don’t care what literal mindless drones think of them, i don’t even want them looking at at my favorite, they’re MINE and mine alone
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>>583602401
Sega should be able to tweak Sonic's design from time to time to prevent Sonic from getting old and stale like he is now since they have been using that old ass Marza model for almost 20 years now
Your version would be a nice change of pace
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>>583602736
>noo
>how am i supposed to dig up that schizo post from 1850 to prove my point now
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>>583599776
I don't really have that for Amy when I read IDW or BoC. Instead its more when I read and she feels like herself, either My Sweet Passion or Follow Me start playing, neither of which fit Cindy Amy at all for the matter.

>>583600182
I agree actually, though I still like Lisa.
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>>583602430
having more merch does not equal having merch that sells well

SEGA has been trying and failing to make Sonic catch on in Japan for some time now
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>>583602926
Well they do, and they are taking said kids to the theater. Or, I guess more accurately, sitting them down in front of the computer for movie night.
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>>583602805
Christianity has nothing to do with Shadow's in-game death
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>>583601648
HALF OF THE CHATACTERS WERE LOCKED, IT WAS AN ONLINE TEST YOU FUCKHEAD
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>>583603189
Silver wasn't

:^)
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>>583602987
>You endorse things that are popular to get them bought in the first place
What? I was expressing confusion as to why Silver has so many simps. I think you've mistaken me for someone else.
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>>583602926
Yes. They should be WITH kids instead.
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>>583600957
Are you a faggot?
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>>583598919
>It's literally maekawadow
No, the "pure maekawadow" shows up and dies on SA2 only, where he's meant to be dead. Everything after is Iizuka bullshit.

>fairytale stuff. we even see him sad or bashful.
That isn't Sonic. Sonic isn't sad or bashful himself. Naoto is the only one saying that and he's not to be trusted because he also likes SatAM, Nicky shit and Sonamy, which are all OOC for Sonic.

>characterfag/shipfag agenda.
I mean yeah I agree, what with you humiliating yourself with deluding about Silver being anywhere as popular, shitverbro.
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>>583603189
>half the characters
spongebob is not a sonic character. the whole segasonic cast was there.
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>>583603089
Taking your kids to see a generic movie so they shut up for an hour and a half does not mean you like the movie you are making them see
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Reminder that the Blazeschizo believes Silver popularity is some sort of a psyop.
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>>583603274
What's that? I got distracted due to pulling out my now-flaccid cock from Tails' leaking post-coital hole
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Is it true that some people have gotten banned from the official Discord server for praising certain old games instead of the currently purchasable ones?
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>>583602805
>it wasnt cheap
Lmaooooo
Do shadow trannies really?
Shitdow game all it does is creatre a literal who alien so the blame can go to him and not shitdow the one that did those horrible things because muh m*ria memory.
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>>583603421
To be fair, if you only play console Sonic, which most people do, why would Blaze be pipular?
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>>583603073
BoC was 100% Lisa voice for me as I read it.
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>>583601147
I'm pretty sure I've still got it, but I'm not sure where I could upload it.
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>>583601223
It really wasn't. Some autists just played fandom wars with it to spin narratoves and others just complained about timrlinr splits existing in general because a lot of westies hate the idea of not linear progression to an inevitable endpoint due to Protestant upbringing
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>>583603532
I said Sonic 3 & Knuckles was my favorite game and I got timed out :(
literally my only post in the server
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>>583603373
Maekawa didn't want SA2 to be Shadow's sole appearance.
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>>583601227
They didn't actually watch boom. They watched clips on social media
Boom was on a bad TV block.
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>>583603073
It doesn't make much sense but I find it harder to hear Lisa's Amy voice in my head than Jennifer's Amy voice even though Lisa's is my favorite. But when I read Amy in BOC, I heard Lisa's voice
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>>583603234
>>583601648
These are Crossworlds open network test characters
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There was no reason to bring back the name 'Witchcarters'.
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>>583602805
>X
>yeah but Y!
It's objectively bad, no matter the origin and it's obvious you can't argue with that obsessed mind of yours. Again, you don't actually like them, you just digest anything as long it's kinoslop.
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>>583603802
Well honestly this proves Silver isn't popular
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>>583603660
Proof?

>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
That is purchasable in some form though.
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>>583603831
Well what the fuck do you call them, genius?
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>>583603373
Iizuka was not even involved in 06, maekawa is the scriptwriter.
Other than that, this comment smells western autism, maybe you should try to get in a more eastern mindset if you're going to put on the purist act.
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>>583603894
>zazz
literally no way zazz is more popular than silver
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>>583603894
You do not genuinely think random Lost World villain number 3 is popular.
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>>583603894
That's not the point
>>583599434
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>>583602805
>it was intrigued and hype that he seems to be back somehow.
Are all jap purists like this? just clapping chipmunks to dangling keys?
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>>583603894
More like they didn't know he had an audience before? The sage and silver shit is when they started to notice silver was more popular than he used to be and pushed him in merch and some content.
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>>583603091
Shadow is literally Christian themed.
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>>583603234
Holy LARPer trannoid
This clown is angry because people like silver lmaoooo
I already told you go to therapy and tell the doc how the white rat makes you suicidal every single day
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I don't care if Silver is popular or not, i just want Blaze dead.
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>>583601669
>I've never said he is
>doesn't talk much in general
You did retard.

>He is not Prime/Paramount levels of talkative
Quite literally he is as much on the three games I mentioned, down to bragging and making puns, japanese versions included.
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>>583603565
Im.not even a Shadowfag. Also ehat you said is not even what is in the game
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>be genuinely puzzled why Silver has fans
>"REEEEEE BLAZE IS THE DEVIL KILL KILL REEEEEE"
And this is why the Sonic Discord got shut down. Schizo shit like this.
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Why aren't you on the official Sonic discord ruining discussion in the IDW channel by pointing out the flaws of the comic, anons?
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>>583604269
Yes but the anon I was replying claims Christianity pedestalizes death in an irrational way as if selflessly sacrificing yourself for the people and country you love is irrational. As if dying heroically doesn't exist
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>>583604474
>And this is why the Sonic Discord got shut down
Its not its just being segregated
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>>583604420
Fix your bot bro, your typos are getting crazy.
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>>583604409
Sonic doesn't talk much. Not talking much is not the same as being silent. Sonic is not silent. I have N E V E R claimed Sonic is silent. There are some games where he talks more, and some games where he talks less, but in general he doesn't talk all that much. Even in the games where he talks more, he never reaches the constant highs of Prime and Paramount, where he talks constantly, and fast. The Paramount writers themselves have also described game Sonic as laconic, saying that they specifically wanted to make the movie version much more talkative because they didn't think a laconic character, like Sonic is in the games, is as entertaining for a movie.
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>>583603606
I think the point is people use ''silver is failed and no one likes him'' as a gotcha point for 06 (im not the anon you're rplying to, but i was the one who brought up 06 characterizations being good and said silver is also IC by the virtue of it being his debut) but they don't do this to the tons of characters who are less popular than him to specifically shit at writing or gameplay.
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https://files.catbox.moe/2svz9u.png
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>>583602736
There goes our only way of proving when there's an astroturf happening. Great.
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>>583604039
They don't need some group name. They aren't a team. The pages right before this, Tails says "Witchcart and her minions", and yeah, that works.
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Pic related is what being an Amy fan is like.

>>583603801
Interesting. I do like how Lisa could bring out more of Amy's tempermental side for what it's worth. In general Lisa is very much Amy's most populat voice actress even all these years later and it isn't even really close. But I do personally prefer Jennifer.
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>>583604709
Sparky....
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Why are Amyfags so invisible?
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Awww the sissy tranny is seething again
You will wake up and silver will be still here so you can cry and shit yourself more.
Maybe hang yourself and reroll
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>>583603865
I wouldn't describe Shadow in Heroes as "Kinoslop". I just found it intriguing. I also liked what they did with him in his game


>>583604203
Who said I was a Jap purist?
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>>583604850
Woah, it's nothing...
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>Sonic doesn't talk much.
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>>583604856
I'm not Sparky. I like when you say that though, because you only come up with that response when faced with truths you don't have a reply for.
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>>583603660
>saying “kiss” gets you times out
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>>583604537
What you described is literally the definition of irrational. You can just admit that the description offended you because it was correct. Its fine man. Irrational things can be good.
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>>583605118
Seriously?????
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>>583604850
>>583604992
>>583604909
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>>583604987
>I just found it intriguing.
You find bad writing intriguing? Are you 12?
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>>583605382
Shit take. Naruto and Ino and Tenten are literally doing white collar shit all day.
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>>583605738
Funniest post all thread
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>>583605738
lmao
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>>583605738
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>>583605738
I don't get it
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>>583605738
kek
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>>583603421
06 Silver plushie when
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>>583606028
It's duofag getting some love from Katie for hating Krack.
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>>583601147
Oh so not a rom but a compile?
I don't mess with that myself but did you see if it got ported to Co-op Deluxe? That's also a pretty good way to play 64 hacks
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>>583605738
Is this real?!
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>>583606194
Life is what you make of it. If you care enough to even ask, then it can be real to you.
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>>583606194
He's in the server.
Yes, this confirms the sally falseflagging is him.
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>>583605738
>>583606109
>for hating Krack
grim
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>>583606028
Edgy archiefag AI slopper gets welcomed with open arms in the official Discord server that's anti-AI and bans you for saying "poop" or talking about Archie
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>>583606109
Based.
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>>583605846
>>583605880
>>583605980
>>583606052
>>583606194
FUCK OFF DUOFAG KRACK IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT

KILL YOURSELF
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>>583606194
Of course not lol
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>>583606315
So its less "i care about sonic/surge" and more about "i just hate amy"
Lmaooo what a faggot
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>>583605581
>calls me 13
>thinks "its le bad" is an argument.
Lul ok
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Kino....
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>>583606317
>>583605738
This just means they know that he comes in here and what he does. So either Katie does come in here, or they keep track of what people discuss here and the namefags.
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>>583605703
Reread
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>>583606396
Krack…
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>>583605738
Who?
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>>583606396
*AHEM*
DOG PENIS
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SONURGE
SHADAMY

CANON
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>>583605168
It's not irrational to want to risk your life to protect your people or country from an outside threat and no I'm not advocating for invasions of other countries. I am speaking of defending your country and your people in your country. Also, if a parent is willing to take the bullet to save his his/her own child, how is that not heroic and loving?
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>>583606775
It's a fake screenshot bro, you can see a weird cut and the interface for private messages on Discord doesn't even look like that
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Reminder that Belle fans are extremely low IQ
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>>583607087
lol now that arch.b4k.co is down you think you can just fake screenshots?
no one is dumb enough to fall for this
i bet you made this with AI
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Sonic series ended long ago and now these ian gay types are only revolting maggots eating away at the corpse.
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This is the actual photo.
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>Krack was right this entire time she was just too autistic for us to take seriously.
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>>583607060
Fuck, didn't notice. I guess I shouldn't drink before posting.
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>>583607331
I've seen enough, put her in charge of the franchise
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>>583607554
You can also tell it's fake just by how OOC she is
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>>583607426
about which part
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>>583607554
im drinking raw milk right now
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>>583607087
>orange highlight
...
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>>583607716
its a fake screenshot lol
he's trying to get away with this because the archive is down
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>>583606194
This but Silver and whatshername.
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>>583604850
>In general Lisa is very much Amy's most populat voice actress even all these years later and it isn't even really close. But I do personally prefer Jennifer.
Jennifer is great, but for some reason her voice doesn't clock for me the same way Lisa's does despite having roughly the same amount of active time as Amy. Lisa got to work on more voiced games in her time, as well as an entire TV series, so I guess it's just exposure.
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Hey guys, how's it going?

>AUGUST 3rd 2029, THE SONIC THE HEDGEHOG FRANCHISE IS BOUGHT BY BANDAI NAMCO
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>>583607709
>raw milk
I'd tell you to kill yourself, but that would be kind of redundant.
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What did I tell you anons about SOA's social media team turning the fandom into an exclusive VIP club only for people who share the same political views as the SOA social media team? I'm not Krack by the way
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>>583606109
Zased
Buttkrack is the cancer that killed /sthg/
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>>583607183
It is real
https://archived.moe/vg/thread/583052687#p583091191
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>>583608002
>kill yourself
Ha! I'm the most alive person in this thread!
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>>583608172
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>583608172
Belle fans proven the lowest IQ fans again.
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You know, we are the majority. Sega opens an official discord and it's nothing but /sthg/ tier shitposting and discussion. All the shipping, edginess, and general shitposting are just the actual Sonic fan community.

You know, it kinda makes me happy...And you will never be a women.
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>>583608425
>And you will never be a women.
You were onto something before this last point.
Not only is it extremely obsessive but the rest of the fandom is not as transphobic as /sthg/.
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>>583607426
Krack…
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>>583608172
kek
owned
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>>583608172
>belle doesnt even have an official plush
lmao
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>>583608559
fuck off slashy
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>>583608172
imagine being an unironic Belle fan
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Krack is definitely here in the thread praising herself and obsessing over trans people.

You have to ignore her.
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>>583608559
All the discord screenshots say otherwise. Now quit seriousposting and get to shitposting, faggot.
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>>583608864
Why aren't you ignoring her
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Your boobs look heavy, may I hold them for you?
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>>583608903
That does not disprove what I said.
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>>583608425
>we are the majority
what you see online is not even 5% of the total fanbase
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>>583608864
>ignore her
Maybe you could ignore her by talking about Sonic the Hedgehog.

I hope we'll get another show like Sonic Prime but as a shoujo targeted at teen girls. Maybe it could star an alternate universe Amy Rose whose a magical girl and tasked with restoring order across all the dimensions, joined by a cast of female Sonic characters and gender-swapped variants of the male cast.
So we get characters like...
Princess Emmy Rose.
Princess Dashie the Hedgehog.
Princess Mila Auer.
Princess Blaze the Cat.
Princess Silver the Hedgehog.
Princess Punches the Echidna.
Princess Shade the Hedgehog.
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>>583608083
>share the same political views as the SOA social media team?
Considering Gigi was clearly forced to take down the Shadow VS ICE post I would say that they are politically neutral.

You are not smart so you never heard of Pink Capitalism.
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>>583609125
Okay but just so you know, I am a man
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>>583609237
No because I do not want to see Gender Swapped Eggman
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>>583609431
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Can't send msg in official sonic discord...
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>>583609487
Evan Stanley is drawing human women she will not look like that.
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>>583609492
Like modern Sonic games, it's boost to win.
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>>583609378
Not for much longer, now tell me what this napkin soaked in chloroform smells like.
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>>583609592
Female eggman shouldn't be young, slim or attractive anyway.
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Okay I've heard people ask "Can you do better then the writers of x media, if no, shut up."
But can you guys actually do better than Ian and Evan? I want to see an anon try to rewrite an arc on AO3 (anonymously) from IDW and improve it. It'd also be a way for this general to start making stuff and be creative.
What do you think bros?
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>>583609286
Oh I have heard of it. It's when companies pretend to support the alphabet agenda as a way to make easy money from the alphabet crowd. Gigi was never forced to take down the mastectomy scar art posts
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>>583609592
Evan would not do art for an animated show.
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Was it all ironic or did people really believe Duo's screenshot?
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>>583609492
You need to pay for nitro to boost the server.
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>>583609716
My BFF did it but as she was writing it people were very angry about extremely specific behaviours
Tails calling Sonic's methods reckless on the surface but ultimately he is always right.

Amy getting briefly frustrated at Sonic

So she quit
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>>583610259
>Tails calling Sonic's methods reckless on the surface but ultimately he is always right.
She wanted to write Sally Acorn, not Tails.
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>>583610426
Tails has been Sally for 20 years
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>>583609820
Believe everything you see on 4chan with 100% certainty.
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>>583610548
Bleak.
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>>583607024
>t's not irrational to want to risk your life to protect your people or country from an outside threat
Killing yourself for an abstraction is irrational.
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>>583610548
>>583610674
Maybe they should just make Tails a girl and get it over with.
Miles Prower is dead.
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>>583610813
Tails is a cute boy and cute boys should be allowed to wear cute pink clothes without getting called girls
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>Average Evan Stanley chapter
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>>583611082
tru
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>>583607915
I think Lisa's is also just memorable in a cartoony way. Jennifer's still reasonably sounds like a person you could meet. Lisa is just more of a cartoon character in a way that like Bugs Bunny or Elmer Fudd are.
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>>583611084
This is more creative than Evan Stanley stories.
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>>583610548
>Turning the cute character in the most hated type of character
Why does Sega hate Tails? In a way I'm glad Amy is the group's mother so Tails doesn't have to be one instead.
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>>583611243
Tails is like Sally even in boc
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>when Sonic Team releases the "Tails Files" and confirms that Tails was supposed to marry Shadow in the future
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>>583609286
I thought it was from a former Boom editor bullying her.
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>>583608425
Which one of you was this?
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>>583611084
Funny because Otherworld Comedy >>583611082 was also about mind control and that came from the Sonic Team.
I think it's time to admit hypnosis is Sonic core.
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>>583611119
Maybe. In any case, both are more consistent than Cindy.
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>>583611382
That's Violet's discord account. The username is violetnovagalxy.
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>>583608172
The context of the post wasnt trying to brag about Belle having merch. It was about belle being better than cream. The image was just random.
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>>583611382
that's thr local tranny hwnbaw
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>>583610743
But risking your life to protect your country and people from an invading force is not suicide and an invading army is not an abstraction
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>>583611837
Cute and canon!
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>>583611837
Krack seethed about this ship for years and Duofag mindbroke her
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>>583611837
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Shadow is Vegeta and Sally is Bulma. Same dynamic
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>>583612316
How's Duo going to recover from this statement?
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>>583612316
I mean fujoshi did it years ago, Draco/Harry is a ship like Sonadow, Narusasu, AshxGary, BakuDeku,LightxL etc.
what creeps me about the trend is moreso that there was a real actor age 12, someone looked at it and thought ''ill make a waifu goonbait based on that''
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>>583612316
I usually don't like tsunderes or tsunderification of non tsundere characters like Surge. But this post makes me mad.
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>>583611567
The image name was bragging about Belle being known in Japan. You clearly fell for AI slop.
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>>583612316
That's a minority saying that, everyone loves the trope and Sonurge mogs Sonamy
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>>583612316
it's true, look at duo
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>>583610259
Slashy, i know its you shilling AARs slop.
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>>583608950
>monitor item box
THAT'S CLASSIC SONIC ONLY, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT IN MODERN. THIS IS NOT CLASSIC SONIC/MODERN SONIC BRANDING FRIENDLY HELP ME SEGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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If Surge is actually like Malfoid can someone depict her in any necktie and skirt
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>>583611298
No
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>4 years old post
>still we have not recovered from this
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>>583612901
that Rouge one sounds good
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>>583612842
Yes he is he is the planner and Sonic follows his plans
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>>583611773
>definitionfagging.
No, westie.eaning doesn't come from words and language.
Willingly throwing your life away for an abstraction is irrational. The idea of a country or nation is an abstraction.
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Lightning hedgehogs are cool to the extreme
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Didn't the Type B tsundere archetype just make billions in the box office
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>>583611382
What is wrong with this? She is correct.
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>>583612316
Everything is misogyny or whatever. No one cares anymore.
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>constant shitflinging
>namenamename
>no one wants to discuss sonic or engage in posts about sonic, just culture war garbage
very natural posts, all of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMbUgwCX4o
What's your favorite level in Sonic Adventure? Mine's Lost World. I love Lost World. I think it has a really clever design and it's fun to play through. I was always stuck on the stone dragon part as a kid playing through it on the PSN release but as an adult, I can blitz through it easily.
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>>583612842
Yes, the Japs are the worst at Tails

>>583613000
And most of the time he does it communicating thru a watch while neeted in his lab. He’s Sally and Nicole rolled into one
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>>583610813
What would tails actually gian from being a girl? ill try to be open minded without calling you a tranny but i don't see it.
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>>583612661
>bragging
No it wasnt. Its just a face value description.
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The one where Sonic runs down a building. I think it's called Speed Highway.
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>>583613084
he isn't
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>>583613110
Probably Speed Highway with Emerald Coast right behind it.
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Who the fuck cares about the next sonic game reveal, give me Tails female gender reveal instead
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At least HE hasn't posted on here yet. Or if he has then he's not making it obviously known.
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>>583613179
>while neeted in his lab
In the latest chapters he's actually implied to be with them but off screen, which is crazy, but also matches Imada's Twitter art of him being with Sonic and Yuta all the time.
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>>583613000
That happened in SA2....and Rush....and Shadow05....and Rush Adventure and...
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>>583612798
Duofag kinda did already
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>>583608950
Why is Metal looking at Tails's ass?
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>>583613404
Sensual
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>>583613084
I didn't say there was anything wrong eith it, Slashtard. Also Belle is still better than Cream and AAR mever understood Amy. She is just another basic bitch millennial white woman projecting herself onto her.
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>>583613394
That’s even worse, imada clearly doesn’t value Tails, no one in that whole country does
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>>583613110
Hard to choose, they're all great. Maybe Final Egg for being the longest and hardest one. But that's mainly the level design. I also like Emerald Coast and Twinkle Park a lot overall, for level design, music, aesthetics, etc. Twinkle Park loses points for the minigame at the start, but regains them with the climb in the second act. Ice Cap is another great one, I like how it starts with slower and calmer platforming and then it ends with the snowboarding section
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>>583613179
Tailscel...
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>>583613110
The music is very atmospheric.
>>583613207
>What would tails actually gain from being a girl?
Tails being a girl would make Tails more appealing to female fans of the franchise. Tails being a girl would balance out the 'core 4' to be gender balanced. Tails being a girl would allow Tails to keep the current VA, appearance, and demeanor without being typecast as a 'token child' and not being taken seriously by a majority of the fandom. Tails has been widely interpreted across numerous cultures, both in official and unofficial media, as a woman already. There is precedent because the Japanese fandom originally mistook Tails for a girl, Tailsko became a popular concept in the western fandom, and Tails was a woman in the LatAM dub of Sonic.
Tails being a girl would allow Sonic and Tails to be a boy-girl duo with an even gender balance (while still having a primacy on a male protagonist) adapting to the growing landscape of a growing number of female Sonic fans. Tails being a girl would provide an outlet for those who want a 'girlboss' character like Sally Acorn without those fans feeling inclined to push for Amy Rose to be out of character. Tails, in recent titles like Sonic Colors, Blade of Courage, Sonic and Lost World, has largely adopted Sally Acorn's role as defined by Ben Hurst as 'the one who comes up with the plans'. By making Tails a girl, you come the closest to reconciling Sally fans without favoring any region in particular or having to validate the awful comics or encourage mass OOC characterization or encouraging Sonic to settle down. Nothing fundamentally has to change about Tails to work as a woman. The brand marketing potential is immense.
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>>583613110
Boring answer but Speed Highway. Though I like HotShelter as well. I like Skydeck more in concept than execution.
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>>583613641
Why does he always include him in the Twitter art then? Something is going on here.
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I'm saying thanks again Metalfag for radicalizing a single Fairly Odd Parents shipper into becoming a deranged JP Sonic Purist who never touched a Sonic game. You have created the funniest monster in 4chan history.
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>>583613734
Fuck off Tailshater
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>>583613612
Not (You) but thank you for the video.
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>>583613110
>>583613716 (Me)
Forgot to reply to this part...

>I was always stuck on the stone dragon part as a kid playing through it on the PSN release but as an adult, I can blitz through it easily.
Same, just on GC. I used to think it was super hard, but after learning how it works it became easy. Well, I found the entire game extremely hard when I was like 6, but I still had trouble with that part when I started understanding it better at 13

>>583613537
Why wouldn't he? Tails' butt is beautiful
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Sega of America when people talk about Blade of Courage
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>>583613110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIOi8y_RsXY
is such a perfect level for what sonic is about
and that tornado? soo good
SA2 level design downgrade its insane
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>>583613239
Yes it was it was BELLE IN JAPAN
everyone thinks you are an idiot for falling for AI Slop you are not fooling anyone.
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>>583613553
>Belle fan
Okay so you are stupid
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You're never getting another Sonic Mania ever again.
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>>583613612
I want to see them have sex in 3D
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>>583614396
Good!
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>>583613872
>Tails being a girl would make Tails more appealing to female fans of the franchise
Tails is already liked by girls. He just isn't most girls' favorite.
My sister loves Tails. He is cute and son-flavored.
>Tails being a girl would allow Tails to keep the current VA,
???
Tails already can? Colleen is great.
>Tails being a girl would balance out the 'core 4' to be gender balanced
Not really. Tails isn't the right personality for that. Another girl would have to balance Amy out. Girl Tails would be like a tech savvy Cream really.
NuGirl needs to be more serious and cynical.

>There is precedent because the Japanese fandom originally mistook Tails for a girl,
So did the west. Whats your point?
Hell, people mistook Knuckles for a girl apparently.
Everything else is nonsense you made up that doesnt add anything but you pretend it does. Trying to create the demand for your supply.
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>>583614396
but the evening dudes wanted to suck iizuka cock so bad...
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>>583613903
He has the same problem much of the fanbase/franchise has: He sees him as a cute plaything to gawk at, but never one to take seriously in any narrative sense. That’s why I can’t stand when people downplay or ignore the cool action-based things Tails can do, it leads even more into this mindset that’s poisoning the character narratively
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>>583614396
love you too uncle Cerny <3
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Anyone else feel like Movie Sonic would work better if his VA was an actual teenager? He sounds like a 40 year old man trying to do a spongebob impression instead of sounding youthful
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>>583614560
>>583614560
>>583614560
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>>583613005
I'm not a westie. Countries and nations are not abstract. A country is a land that is inhabited by people, is ruled by a sovereign political entity, and has borders that differentiate it from other countries. A nation is either an ethnic group of people with similar DNA and culture (classical definition) or a country (modern definition).
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According to OUR credible sightings, Belle is popular in japan.
Cope.
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>>583613872
>Tails being a girl would make Tails more appealing to female fans of the franchise.
He already is by being cute, unless we specifically lean into shoujo tropes, i don't see how he could be appealing to female fans, and if we do lean to make tails shoujo then he becomes a differnt character.

>Tails being a girl would allow Tails to keep the current VA, appearance, and demeanor without being typecast as a 'token child' and not being taken seriously by a majority of the fandom.
Don't see how, being a child and having the age of 8 is part of his character no matter the gender, if we are aging him up then again, asking for a different character.
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>>583614627
I define nation more as a society and culture. These are generally more easy to see as good, whereas democratic governments are generally amoral systems and institutions that are descended from authoritarian states centuries ago.
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>>583614286
Nobody actually cares one way or another. You've been trying to push this narrative for over a week now ever since your heterosexual life partner (male) got blown the fuck out trying to slander an IDW OC on your behalf and got her bunny girl self insert mogged in the process.
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>>583614627
>Countries and nations are not abstract
Do you even know what an abstraction is?
The concept of inheriting and owning land is itself an abstraction. Land can be occupied, not "owned" in any not abstract manner.
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>>583615001
People think Belle fans are stupid.
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>>583615189
Okay lol
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>>583614396
Good. That game sucked just as much as as every other Sonic game.
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>>583603631

Anywhere will do really. Pixeldrain, gofile, mega, mediafire.
Id appreciate it whatever you choose.

>>583606143
there is a n64 rom hack but Im after the pc version made using the sm64pc source port.
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