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He didn't use THAT pic.COWARD
The doctor lady was also pretty cute.
CALL ME UP, I'VEGOT TO FEEL ALIVECALL ME UP HIGHSET ME FREE TO FLYMY BLUE SKY HOME
>give tasha and coster barricaders>give myself the game>have them on cover, use spw>two IEWS on me>standard missiles with the homing upgrade fired on a mirage right in front of me still missWhat is the POINT of ESM that isn't the Magnolia?
does the placement of planes on the (campaign) aircraft tree correlate at all with their IRL performance? are the Felon, Raptor, and Lightning II the most advanced/powerful planes among those represented in the game?
>>583631005The end of the tree has the most modern aircraft yes, but the start and middle of the tree is very wacky.
I never let them choose their own planes
>>583630839>fumble my controls and accidentally autopilotack-
>>5836304874 max but yes in theory.I would gladly carry sorties since i need the zoll but the op squadron is full unfortunately
Haha the entire carrier had stinky diarrhea after those MREs, imagine the smell haha
>>5836317322-3 years past the printed date is nothing for MREs.
>Barricader's upgrade costs are the same as the GrowlerWhy was I expecting this shit to balance or scale? I should know better by now.
>>583631493I probably will get yeeted from the OP squadron because I haven't really touched online yet, partly because I got sick and partly because I didn't wanna deal with the absolute bullshit everyone's complaining about.
I'm retarded and might have overlooked something, why did Coster and Tasha not come with us on Mission 12 to the island?
why are people so dang stupid with the chandelier? i understand most people havent played 6 but there are only like 3 people that do the barrel run and every time we fail.
>>583632320I’ve played 6 but the rush for points makes me a retard and I wind up turning before the barrel has finished and can’t fly into.
>>583632152they flew back to escort the ship and you were supposed to investigate the island yall were going to rendevous at anyways so you all met up with the marines
>>583632320if you can't solo carry the chandelier by now, it's skill issue on your part
>>583632408>>583632320its almost like no one enjoys playing to the tune of no time to do anything or process anythingbasically its uma musume race slop
>>583632408the only problem with the barrel for me is i keep flying to far in so i cant exit>>583632525im leveling a new plane when doing it most of the time
<< Preparing Stauros for launch... >>
>>583632457oh okay, and i guess they're absent on the next mission since it's meant to just be recon stuffthanks anon
>>583632152>>583633209they're busy having sex with each other actually
>>583633009Sounded much better in AC6
>>583633009It's just not the same without him sounding dead inside and Ghost Eye having a panic attack...
Have any buddies noticed any off-screen QTEs that aren’t checking the MREs or having your head down during tea time with Tewy and Toprak?
>>583632320it took me 1 failure to figure out the barrel run mechanicthen i figured out on the next go around that the objectives after are in the shell tunnel run segment (we still failed)so that's two failed runs before i, as a fresh player, was actually able to understand what was happening and react properlyi've topped the lobbies i've been in since but i can understand why it's a difficult mission as someone who didn't play 6the only thing really close is the alicorn railgun but even that is very forgiving in the approach angles comparatively
>60,000 to upgrade plane>Have 0 Zoll>Its at minimum 30 games just to do this 1 upgrade at 10 minutes a popThey need to increase Zoll rewards
let me get this straightonly the party boss needs to have the emergency sortie nonsense available, right?
>>583631252the Su-47 being in the same tier as the F-16 and Mirage was funny as hell when i saw it.
>>583633525yea
>>583633840It's so sad. You can definitely feel its placement.
>>583633624play warfare?play scrambleplay emergency?
>>583634307You get 1 scramble/emergency every 5-10 games once you've "played it too much" because these devs are retards. So its still 30 games on a normal mode and MAYBE 10k, less if you're lucky and have tickets.
>hey coster, why do you like that band so much>cause they sing about the lonely skiesjesus they really wanted to bring the cheese back
>>583634307>play warfare?Warfare and Assault pay almost identically, the tooltip is a lie. Its about 2000 Zoll on average.
Fatsia?More like Fatso!HA! GOTTEM!
>>583633809Yes, best way is to have 3 squadrons running and share scrambles and sorties because they're the only ones with actual good rewards.Just try not to overlap because if two people trigger Scramble/Sortie and party up it consumes the chance for both players in one match.
Fuuuuuck YouuuuuCan't even do dailies slop without being subjected to broken connections wasting as much of your time as possible
Thoughts on Bosnia being part of Sotoa?
since the Livestream went viral, I wonder if Nagase take one look, heard the choral Song of Wings and thought>Huh. How long has it been? This feels like deja vuhttps://youtu.be/WSuMXlkd5jQ
>Lobby system to encourage interaction>Oh that sounds cool->Also you can only type like it's very early Twitter leading to no one bothering to talk
>>583635309The lobby system is to promote the cash shop, as it is in all games.
this whole online business seems a bit more complicated than it needs to be
Can you just start booting people from the squadron every day? Playing with others and maximizing odds for scrambles and sorties is the only way that respects your time otherwise you're grinding away for scraps.
>>583635309The 40 character limit is so unnecessary.
My respect to the>703rd Squadron, Yuke Air Force>1st Fighter Wing, OADF (Chinook)>172nd Fighter Bomber Squadron, Yuke Air Force>Oka NiebaThe chorus of the past. Now if only they can be remade to PS5 and have them actually bombing Sudentor in support of Blaze
>>583634484Coster looks like he's in his late thirty but still wearing the same band t-shirts from when he was 17 years old.
>>583636148He's 25 at best.
How do we fix the multiplayer?
>>583636148>coster gets along with tasha so well because he never mentally left highschool
>>583636445make scrambles a gamemode you can freely queue up for, even with reduced rewardsadd a pure pve 4 man coop for the regular missionsadd actual 20 minute coop missions/raids that you can fail
>>583636445I honestly don't think you can, fixing it would require a complete rework of all of its systems. At the very least however a 4 man coop mode that was brutally hard but had better zoll/pilot/combat XP would be good.
>>583633840former endgame plane reduced to this.
>>583632320Just did it with some buddies from the squadron, the main problem was that everyone was so efficient all the targets blew up before I even got to them lol. Still scored higher than the randos.
>>583636445Make the regular PvE missions ~3x longer, quintuple the number and density of enemies or halve the number of players.Scale rewards accordingly.
Why couldn't Cope save his waifu?
>>583636445scrape it entirely and go back to single player exclusive games
>>583636828Because he mindbroke her so hard with his big nomad cock that she played pretend nomad until she lost her marbles.
>>583636445Make the missions longer, but bump up the rewards to make it worth it.
>>583637054the monkey paw curls>the missions are made way longer>they reward 2500 zoll instead of 2000
>>583637118That’s not a true monkey’s paw.The actual monkey’s paw would be that the losing team doesn’t get any rewards
>>583637118I would honestly be almost okay with that as long as I got to actually have fun playing and not just eternal blue balls from how fast everything ends.
>>583636445Increase enemy density and timelimit. Nerf the shit out of laams/ burst missile, and tlsnerf the shit out of mig 31 pitchadd 15 new rotating mapsIncrease Scramble/emergency Make scramble time longer and add more enemies
>>583636445Halo firefight-esque endless wave 4 player coop mode. Have every map centered around a friendly airbase or carrier that you defend and can gear down and land at to resupply, have X lives and resupplies per team that gets refilled after a boss wave every X waves. Spawn an ace squadron/podarges/land aegises for those bosses. Start with easy enemies and ramp it up until it's Mission 28 level bullshit and everyone dies, give rewards scaling with how far you made it.
You should be able to destroy the laser in the short time window and get an alternative ending which results in two more ships for the next mission
>Japan>Capable of making good online modesIf Ace Combat was western maybe they could fix it. But Japan has never been able to understand how to make online fun.
>>583636445Make 5 minute modes be 15 minutes.Team A and B both get 3 stages to get most points. After one team wins the first 5, scores are reset. New enemies spawn. If the same team wins the next 5 minutes, they win the match. If the other team wins, a third 5 minute stage happens to decide the winner.This would add some strategy to when you want to unload all your spws and value to capacity upgrades as well, lest you be left without missles in the last stage.Also triple the rewards ofc and make it so that when a player disconnects, a decently capable npc takes their place (Doesn't become an ace or reward points to the enemy in warfare.)
>>583636445PvPvE(Co-Op Warfare) has some potential to be a good mode if they fix the fucking LAAMs. Honestly just banning those from MP along with introducing point limits would improve the game massively.If they really want to make it good they can also massively reduce the number of NPC air targets and increase points for ground targets, make it more focused on attackers/multiroles bombing ground targets while fighters cover them or attack opposing attackers.Basically, copy Battlefront 2(2005).
>>583637313but they almost did it right with infinitywhy reinvent the wheel?
>>583637380this is what bothers me the most. Infinity and AH had some good ideas that would translate well to 8's online. Capital conquest and naval tdm except you can land on bases/carriers to resupply would be fun as fuck.
>>583637210the competition coop is a retarded idea anyway>quick make the experience miserable for everyone involved for a chance for 150 more zoll
Rate the planes' styles>super hornets>f-15e>su-33>su-35>su-47>rafale>gripen
Mission 28 should've just been a gigantic furball with no bombers.They should've made Area B7R look like a fucking joke.
>>583637380>>583637518They can't even get the cash shop right. Its a clusterfuck to get into and navigate.
>>583637582The vast majority of players don't seem to give a fuck about team v team competition, your experience is miserable because your own team is unable to coordinate and spread out across different target groups.This problem would still exist in a pure PvE mode. Note how players still can't coordinate in Emergency sorties even though that mode doesn't have team v team competition.
>>583637719That would've been cool. But I like the current version too, it reminds me of a level from AC Secret Wars where you have to stop 100+ bombers basically by yourself. That mission always stuck with me and seeing that concept realised in Ace Combat made me very happy.
>>583637859>your experience is miserable because your own team is unable to coordinatemy experience is miserable because all shit aerial gets dissapeared by LAAMfags 10 seconds in and most things surface is mopped up by su34/morgan/f15 spamstop the mental gymnastics, it's a garbage gamemode and the oversaturation of players doesn't help it
The game does play way better on 2v2. A pure 4-man co-op mode would be nice
>>583637380Unironically this is the question about jap devs, unless bamco is fucking it up too
>>58363771928 should've been the best mission in the game but instead you have to waste 15 minutes shooting down bombers while the plot is happening in the background in a mission that is already the longest in the game
The originality in names online is stunning
>>583637380Is 8's MP made by a B team? Infinity had the main team working for it.
>>583638530
>>583637380>they almost did it right with infinitythey didn't, this is just nostalgia googles revisionism by people who weren't aroundInfinity sucked ass too, people just remember the good parts like the black level raids that weren't even in the game for a long time.
>>583638530>"Please enter a name">Type my Steam name
>>583638605Ironically that makes him more original than most of the lobby
>>583638141That has genuinely fuck all to do with it being a team v team "competition" for points. Even if you had a pure PvE mode you'd have the same problem. LAAMs delete air targets before you get there, UGBLs and SFFS delete ground targets.
>>583636445discounting new gamemodesESM and ECM get their duration cut, or are made less effectivedouble LAAM reload speed, reduce it's tracking sub 4000mTLS gets broken by clouds, has better visual indication, does less damage, and is audibledouble the amount of targets in assaultmake the enemy squadron in assault more threatening, and appear concurrently with the final objectiverandom point limits in warfare (obviously don't let the player load into lower point limit matches if they don't have a plane that meets the requirement in their set)
>>583637719Is it now the biggest air battle of Strangereal? The previous two holders are Comona and B7R
>>583638530XxSephirothPixyxX the Morgan player in your team that doesn't break 2k during Assault
>>583638638>Infinity sucked ass too, people just remember the good parts like the black level raids that weren't even in the game for a long time.despite being handled like a typical japslop mmo, it had actual missions compared to this slopI'm not saying it was perfect, I'm saying they had the groundwork set up, and instead of building off of that experience they released whatever the fuck ACO isIf they weren't retarded, they'd build off the good parts
>>583638623God, the land battleships are just so fucking stupid they wrap back around to being cool as fuck.Though I could do without the AA guns who’s only purpose is to tag me and ruin the no-hit run. But that’s AA in general.
>>583638605>How's about we start telling people Bob stands for something? Other than Robert I mean
>>583638530>>583638838the whole idea of >boat, but on landis such retarded kinothey even airdrop some of the lesser vessels in one of the missionsthis is peak retardation rule of coolI grew to love them
>>583638823>If they weren't retardedunfortunately for us, they're Bamcoit's terminal
>>5836384795 minutes in and I was bored, it felt like an anime episode, and not the good kind
This is probably a silly question, but are the videos that play on the stage in the multiplayer lobby pre-recorded or are they a livestream of a game that’s actually going on?
>>583639106>anime episodeit was an anime episodemusic includedac8 is a shonen
>>583637691F16>Rafale>Single Seater Hornets>Su33>Su35>Typhoon>Single Seater F15s>Su47>Twin Seaters ranked in same order>Gripen
>>583639135>This is probably a silly question, but are the videos that play on the stage in the multiplayer lobby pre-recorded or are they a livestream of a game that’s actually going on?they're pre-recordedI've been seeing the same gripen clearing the same shilage castle stage for the past four daysthe other """livestream""" features a deathmatch that's not even available atm
>>583636148Coster's design reminds me horribly of thisExcept he's actually handsome
>>583639106It was an anime episode
>>583639328I have never seen a man this young
>>583639328such a sprightly yourh
I just alt-f4 mid alicorn sortie and still could do sortie again, suck that it was chandelier this time
>sortie>player failed to connect>disconnecting>sortie>player left the game>disconnecting>sortie>player failed to ready upfucking kill me
We love Kate here
Poor nuggets
>>583639710Make a F4 or MiG-21bis with MGP and all MGP upgrades, including the 2-star ones in the shop. Obliterates every TGT in Chandelier. You could solo it without issue.
>>583640292She looked like Rex finally realized the two lines in that test doesn't mean Kate got the virus
AC7 in many ways was a mess. But I forgive all its faults since it literally saved the franchise.
>>583640410Kate has the Belkan Mind Virus!?
What if I give Kate a Prowler for mission 25?
I feel so fucking free listening to this. Don't know why some people are saying AC7 had a better soundtrack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRVH5Hp__FY
>>583640698Then you consigned three randos to their deaths.
>>583640773i really like archange but the more i think about it the more i think the buildup to finally getting to this one is pretty coolIm also a sucker for that one anime with the trumpet and the walking tanks and this reminds me of itThe big swooping cadence also lends itself to the fact that the fight 100% punishes close range and 100% rewards big sweeping high energy head ons so the pace itself synergizes perfectly with the game plan
>>583640383my ZOLL...
Anyone got the mission 8 missing F16 shadow assault record glitch? There are 8 F16 Shadow units in the records, you need to kill all 7 of them before the Tasha dogfight event, that scripted kill is your 8th.
Why do I keep getting so many blueprints for the morgan? I've only played it like 3 times
>>583641802blueprints are based on your enemieseach shot down gives a blueprint corresponding to their craft type
>>583641864are you telling me the only way to get upgrade materials for specific planes reliably is with PvP? Oh fuck off, I'm not touching that mode man.
Should I go F-22 or F-35 first? and Even then what's the main diffrences.
>>583641984nah, i mean in scramble
>>583641989F35 is a ground attack monsterF22 is just a pretty good dogfighter.
>>583641989It's a matter of QAAM vs LACM, which do you prefer? Ground cleaning or plane busting?
>>583642074I alrady have the EA-36 and F-15E.
>>583641989Both of them are off-meta and suck shit right now so who cares
F-35 is FAT and UGLY and LACM are just crutch UGBs!
>stop doing dumbass high g turn fights where i do nothing but force jousts>start actually doing dogfighting maneuvers>win more fightsGo figure
>>583641984you buy plane specific blueprints in the shop for zoll, scramble just saves you 1000 zoll here and therescramble takes a plane from every tier so you either get the game or the morgan in the superplane slot
>>583642507I prefer to call it UGB for dogfighters, now you can focus on belting the planes as you clean up the ground without giving them too much attention
Someone make a new squadron I don’t want to keep playing with randoms
>>583642525which dogfight maneuver?
>>583642024>>583642647I have not gotten scrambles yet, are they rarer than superweapon raids?
>>583642414Is kono ace combat's todd howard?
>>583642793nah they're about the same rate, it's just gacha
Do the japs have the same opinions on gameplay aspects of AC8 as the english side does? The bads particularly
>>583642812I actually don't know. I always thought he was the director of the series, maybe it's a translation error. Todd used to be a director as well.
okay what now
>>583642812Do you see that mountain? You can fly there.
>>583642414So like are they going to actually fix anything or just keep posting stupid shit on Xitter
>>583642990How do you S rank 28? What is your final score and time? How many times did you land?
>>583642990Pray the multiplayer dies fast and hope you've got another 5-7 years in you.
>>583643085Uh ... landed twice? The S rank is decided by the time bonus really and the only time bonus you get is from the Shadow fight.The trick is to shoot a regular missiles at the shadows followed up by a SASM as they dodgeThis way you kill all the regular shadows in two SASM and 22 in 4
I went on pixiv and found a honey select 1 version of Tasha. I don’t like how port mods have dogshit skeleton rigging and lack of proper modular hair support due to improper geometry. If I’m bored I might go make kate and Tasha for HS2 down the road. but I’m also busy modeling in general.
Do ECM planes get any damage boosts like attackers and fighters?
>>583643420like in the ability slot?growler gets an a2a dmg boost as its second one
>>583642765Pretty basic, but the specific instance I can use as an example was something like this. Guy in an F-14 was trying to out-turn me so I do something similar to this and get directly behind him and shove a couple MSLs up his ass.
>>583643381>22 in 4He's that tanky?
>>583643397send link
>>58364308528 is like 150-160k total score to S rank, you can either shoot down everything or shoot down a lot of things and end the mission fast.
>>583643572not really, he's just really slipperysame hp as other shadows but they're nowhere as agile
>>583643481No, as a base.Attackers do more damage to ground targets and fighters do more to air targets
Can't you just cheese the shadows with UAVT? Or are they not as broken as they are in 7?
>>583643572The timing for a direct hit is EXTREMELY narrow for him, like we're talking in the 0.x second range Hell, if you dont fire the missiles first you can watch as the SASM refuses to explode. You're much more likely to trigger a burst explosion and just hit him partially. The other shadows timing is less strict, you are more or less guaranteed a direct SASM hit.Hell, you can even waste a checkpoint retry if you manage to kill them in 4 minutes.
>>583643546NTA. But you made me google up a dog fight maneuver chart for comparison and I found the retard spiral I keep baiting everyone into.But imagine there being one defender and 3 attackers.
>>583643921>checkpoint retryIsn't that expensive?
>>583644021I think it costed like 12k points and you need 154k
I like that the little spinny but on the front of the EW pods is animated. That’s a nice touch.
>>583642753I'll do tomorrow! Maybe. I have Zero qualificationsAlso, I'm only available to shitpost a few hours a day at best; please look forward to it
>>583644135>154kHOW
>attack the core mission>there is a fucking bar in the middle of it.Thanks I hate it
>>583644514Simply fly around it.
>>583644425GO FASTER
Note to everyone: Don't try to land on mission 28 after the timer runs out but before the cutscene. The cutscene triggered just as I finished the landing and I was permanently stuck on a black screen.
>>583644425nta but
>1 million livesThat's...kind of a small number actually? I'm pretty sure Trigger kills at least that many people by himself throughout the war.
>>583644643but likewith one shot
>>583644616where's baxter
>>583644425Why is everyone in this general suddenly so retarded and bad at the games holy shit just fucking shoot things you stupid nigger
>>583644643The [current war] hasn't even hit 1 million after 4, going on 5 years with the highest claimed counts on each side
>>583644840in the cafeteria
>>583642974He was the art director for R4 (which was incredibly based) and AC04 (which was when he first partnered with Sunao Katabuchi). He was the chief director of AC5, AH, and AC8. For the rest, he was either a producer or part of the planning committee. He only became the "face" of the franchise during the 2010s, I feel.
>>583644643Between getting smacked by the brunt of Ulysses two huge clusterfuck wars in as many decades, there just aren't that many people living in Usea.
>>583645229big woman....nice to me.......
>>583644616>no time bonusSo killing people still works
>>583645082>did not direct 4 and 7.Okay so that’s why 8 feels like an exact upgrade of 5 then. I feel like 7 is a way more faster game than 8 is over all. But 8’s unironically more grittier than 7 is on detailing.
>>583645229Rex's Queen
>>583610469What the fuck? I've been wondering what abilities planes get and it turns out I could have just checked all this time? This interface is terrible, holy shit.
>>583645229hag
>>583645384It does, but you're really better off going for the time bonus. Probably could've cut down the mission by 5-6 minutes at least if I didn't go for almost every single target on the map.
>>583644616>83 TU-95
>>5836373808 MP is literally just infinity
>>583645827flip 8 90 degreesyou will shit bricks
>>583644425step 1: fly northstep 2: from the north, fly south, kill all bombers, only the bombersstep 3: by the time you killed all bombers the fast nigga bombers from the south + ace should spawnstep 4: kill those guys step 4.5: (optional) ressupplystep 5: go back and kill wave 2 of bombersstep 6: bomber are dead, you should have 100k points at this point and 5 ~ 7 minutes left on the clockstep 7: kill shit with the ECM nigga back up until 1 minute leftstep 8: resupply for shadow 22step 9: kill shadow 22 with missile + SASM comboS rankbtw bomber are slow and are weak to guns, feel free to shoot single SASM at them in fly by while you point your gun at another
>>583638823No, it was exactly the same structure where you kill shit, get a mission updated, then kill more shitOnly Avalon was an exception
>>583645827>Bandai creates Nightreign and AC ONLINE.>both are fun asset swaps of their original games.>Bandai doesn’t capitalize on thisI hate it
>>583645912what's your setup? Game with SASM and HPAA? I think HPAA should be useful in dealing with bombers, as dogshit as it is.
>>583645769Does it really really count if half of those are crashing into the wrecks of the other bombers
>>583645912What's the smallest plane they could put that small woodland creature on for the iM@S DLC skins?
>>583646198the gripen is pretty small compared to most aircraft if that's what you meant
>>583646198Gripen
>>583646154how do you trigger this reliably? Do I kill the frontmost bomber in formation or the middle? I still don't get the mechanic.
>>583646307i had some success with targeting the engine lock points instead of center massthey'll drift into the other bomber
>>583646393never bothered with the wings that much and just go for the kill, guess I'll experiment a bit.
>>583646307They're mostly in pairs on 28 right just shoot the front one. No idea if the body or the wings make any difference just shooting one missile and a quick gun burst to save ammo
>>583630602I'm home old lady.
>>583646552it really felt like one of these lines that sounded good in japanese but they had no fucking idea what to do with it in english
Can I ask why the fuck enemy flares during Scramble are broken and last for like a solid 50 seconds after the animation is over
>>583646307Kill frontmost and they usually drift back onto the next one. But I never seen one take out a flight of three before.
>>583646121Aren't there like only 3 planes with SASM anyway? The Migger, F15 and F36?I used the F15c with HCAA, two of them destroy a bomber, make sure to only resupply SASM before Shadow22
is this true chat
>no YF-23 in the aircraft treebut why
>>583646882hasn't that been there for 20 years or did that start with the last game
>>583646970It’s coming out later as DLC or battle pass fodder. Same with the F-117 and maybe the Harrier
>>583646882>Eurofighter FIGHTING FLYING THING limited liability companyNice language you have there, Germany
>>583646882>france leaves the eurofighter program and makes the rafale which mogs the eurofighter solely by being carrier capable
>>583647032>Same with the F-117>no gun>no gunpod>literally just a paveway/JDAM carrieryeah idk about that one chiefabout as likely as a playable tu95
>>583647032>YF-23>F-117putting base game characters as a DLC is truly one of the most move of all time
>>583647032surely you mean a free update to celebrate the success of the game. surely you mean that and that we arent going to be dripfed planes (which are already in the game btw) for the next year for a pound of flesh each time
>>583647117Retard-kun...
>>583647164first japanese multiplayer experience, nonny?the """free""" anniversary prizes will be reskins of already available aircraftyou'll fly your A-6E >NUGGET< and you'll be happy
>>583647205i forget where they even put the gun on it in 5, i think they just invented a flap that comes up for it
>>583647281Yes, I love Nugget.
>>583646663They're so annoying. It's ridiculous when you shoot like five seconds later and the flare still blocks you, even though it's behind you at that point. My missiles wouldn't be able to lock on at that angle if it was a plane but somehow they can still see the ancient flare and they love it.
>>583647359Yep. Just stapled a flap on I guess where they felt it made the most sense
>>583647281its grim that every time i boot up into online for some reason the same lobby music as gundam battle operation 2 plays in my head and thats not a good thing
>>583647117You say that like it’s not a series regular. Pretty sure it’s been in every mainline game. Even 6 with it’s limited roster
>>583647474you now remember gundam evolutionACO won't go the way of the dodo only because it's not a standalone game
>>583647553i remember it from time to time, and every time i do i go "damn. it really only lasted a year". had fun with the marasai i guess so i got my times worth out of it
You should get points for every enemy player-launched missile you dodge.No, this is not inspired by me distracting two enemies for half the match by circling at low altitude.
>>583647517>>583647205Whoops, looks like the game is up.Yup, I'm a secondary. Born and raised.I remembered it being in air combat but completely memoryholed any appearances beyond that
>>583647471The F-111 and F-106 has a palettized cannon that can be mounted in the internal bay. So it's not like it's a fabrication from whole cloth.Also The F-117 likely borrowed the F-111's trapeze based sidewinder launch rails, since it was authorized for "everything in inventory". Hell the ones that the USAF still has are cleared for GBU-39 & -53's.
>Su-37 -Y13- comes out in the pass>Su-37 is added for everyone else at the end of the 2 months>you need to pay $5 if you want the Y13 versionBest case scenarioAlso least likely scenario
>>583647553am I the only one here who's a bit concerned about that since that means a direct sequel ala 5/Zero is not likely gonna happen since Online is tied to 8
>>583647117Never give up hope.
>>583647829>The F-111 and F-106 has a palettized cannonwhat was the designation? I'd love to read up on it
>>583648225What is happening two months from now if I never buy the pass are they still selling the Morgan?
>Get completely shafted during a mission update fight because the enemy suddenly decided they wanted to shit out 8 billion flares one after the other>Conveniently doesn't even bother trying to dodge the LAAM faggotI hate this game
>F-16 still has Sidewinders on the wingtip pylonsIt's a minor grievance for me. It's not technically incorrect but official doctrine is to mount AMRAAMs there when using a 2 AIM-9, 4 AIM-120 loadout. I know AC doesn't have exactly have a strict adherence to authenticity, but they've gotten better at placing weapons on the correct pylons in recent games.
>>583648451From what I can gather>Pass is up for some months>After pass the plane goes on sale for zoll for people who didnt buy the passThe pass is basically early access, I guess. Idk if there's going to be rank restrictions on battlepass aircraft (there shouldn't be considering any new nugget can pop in their credit card and get a Morgan or a Falken or a Wyvern)
>>583648226i wouldn't be shocked if they spin it off as a separate f2p client
>Top 5 Missions1: Retaking of Theve II2: Starbound Bird3: The Destruction of Expo City4: Thousand Points of Light5: Purple Magic Takes FlightBottom 5 missions26: Singer27: Wings of Wax28: Over the Rainband29: Selene30: Pursuing the HSCAFight me IRL and not on /aceg/ and see what happens
>>583648226>rdr2 and red dead online
>>583648451>Any aircraft introduced in an Ace Pass will be made available as DLC after the season ends.No word on the cosmetics
>>583648727>30: Pursuing the HSCAthis one is number one for me solely because of the soundtrack
>>583648226I think the fact the multiplayer is so dead despite the fantastic week one sales is a hint that most of the AC fanbase is in it for singleplayer.That relies on Bamco not being massive retards though.
So what all mid-mission updates are there?>Su-47’s with HPAAs>F-2s with HVAAs>drone spam>F-35 and…some other stealth plane>F-117s>the one with a couple IL-76 jammers>the one with the fighters that have multiple SPWs>one with 6AAMsIs there any I’m missing?
Is the Directional Proximity Fuze as useless in 8 as it was in 7?
>>583648907>a couple of Lancers with escorts>B-2 with F-2 escorts>three ravens>SAM sites with jammer trucks
>>583648789I need a Bamco gamer accountant to tell me if I should buy a $10 pass and play the shitty online or just pay $5 after a while for a Morgan in campaign
>>583648372>what was the designation?For the F-106 it's Project Six Shooter also had the first LCOS gunsight developed for it; seach "ADA169169" for moreThe for the F-111 it's much harder.
>>583648989Oh, yeah. I forgot the Raven one, I’ve seen it a couple times. Not the others though.
>>583648727>3: The Destruction of Expo CityOminous ass title and nothing happens the mission
>>583648852I found it incredibly boring because you actually need to try to suck to make it interesting, you can tear off the wings before the drones even spawn, blow up the main engines before the fighter arrive and be out before the railguns even fire at you.It's a "boss battle" that would've made more sense in the first couple of missions because damn this thing does not want to fight back and is easily defeated by pressing the gun button.
>>583649095SAM one might be one of the green maps specific; shilage or the other oneI haven't seen the lancer one outside of them either
>>583649071I was aware of the Six Shooter project, but the compatibility of the system with 117's bomb bay is completely new for mesickyou learn something new every day
>>583630602>The cutscene at the end of mission 26I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE SOTOANS! GLASS THAT DESERT SHITHOLE NOW! DIE DIE DIE DIE!
>>583648861It's not that they cant make online work, they could easily make it work. Its just that the Japanese are at times genetically disposed to making the multiplayer of their games absolute dogshit for no discernable reason.>Menu spam>Constant notification spam for when you unlock new things up to and including fucking battlepass xp>No point limits on game modes, or a point limit based matchmaking system, so you just have full flights of FA-36's and EA-36's going up against nuggets in F-4's who just booted up online>Missions are too short>Same 3 maps>Emergencies and Scrambles are entirely random when they could just have a global timer that counts down to them being up so you know when to hop on and do them>Plane levelling system to sink hours into only to have picked the worst tiered plane to upgrade>Gacha lootboxes (Can these give planes? I think they can but im not 100% certain)>Battlepass rewards players who spend money on it by giving them a top of the line new plane, meaning in a few months time most matches will be with whales vs whales in nothing but these planes as nuggets dipped out weeks prior>Need to buy new loadout slotsI could go on. But I won't. They either turn it around by Christmas or they don't at all. (Not that they would be opposed to online being full of nothing but whales fighting whales so long as they kept buying passes and cosmetics)
Is the Waiapolo in the campaign and MP the same map from 7? Is that cozy town in the mountains still there?
>>583649337> the compatibility of the system with 117's bomb bay is completely new for meProbably because it’s not a thing.
>>583649403>No point limits on game modes, or a point limit based matchmaking systemTDM has a point system, which is why lack thereof in pve warfare is completely baffling
>>583649403> Can these give planes?No. Only cosmetics according to the loot table.
>>583648727>Two on the Run not in the bottom 5 at allThis is how I know you have brain damage. I know they kinda put this together as Ace Combat 5 2, but did they have to include a Final Option analogue?
>>583645395Here's another fun fact. The creative director for AC8 (Kosuke Itomi) is the art director of AC0 behind all the creative decisions that made that game as beloved and iconic as it is today.
Genuinely why the fuck does the Russian thrust brick handle as well as a Morgan
>>583648676the fact that they didn't from the get go tells me alot
damn if the only had this access to this technology back during the lighthouse war
>>583649403It's so bad I have to wonder if they took any player feedback from ACO and Infinity at all.
>>583649906desu, Osean IFFs having a train ran on them probably led to a lot of system strengthening. Same with satellites having fucking point defenses now and planes having railgun lock warnings
>>583648727>Wings of Wax bad
>>583648727>>583650060Coooopyyyy! :D
Man, you fuckers weren't kidding with mission 28. The Nakama power moment was cool and all but the fight against the shadows was pure ass.
>>583650060do it with an attacker and you'd want to kill everyone who made this mission too
>>583650090Answer me like that again and you're on the first bus back to /aceg/.
>>583650348D:
The Ladons are so cool in a PS2 game they would spend half the story terrorizing the protagonists but here they're just another boss since the superweapon powerlevels are so insane now
>>583650335I honestly don't know how to balance between hard and fun for ace boss fights, they are either fun to fight but incredibly exploitable or nothing but certain weapons and machine gun works.
>>583650338>do it with the complete wrong plane type for the mission and you'll be mad too
>>583650338>bring an attacker to the A2A mission it specifically tells you its an A2A mission
>>583648907on waiapolo you can get a magic spear irbm chase
>>583650525>>583650550If you want to do the mark for All Attackers then yes, yes you do
>>583650550there are medals for clearing the campaign with specific craft types
>>583650335I find it incredibly funny that Topkek is more bitchmade in his 4v4 dogfight mechanics than a quadripolegic noblewoman in a 1v4. Absolutely pathetic.
>>583650525>>583650550if you make an achievement for something that is supposedly almost impossible then the devs are in the wrong, not me.
Did people seriously get filtered by the XB-70 mission?How? literally just bring a plane that does a lot of dps and use your cannon.
>>583650582>>583650610you can't do it on your first playthrough so the complain is moot15 is not a carrier mission and the eagle and fullback are more than good enough to clear since they have HCAAs, especially with parts
>drones bad>neural pilotingwe grow closer to the macrossification of AC
As much of a bitch Shadow 22 was to fight at least he didn't ditch his jetfu for an experimental fighter like some other ace rivals.
>>583650090I see.
>>583631812To add on to this for other buddies curious about playing Jammers, upgrade costs for both the Barricader and Groler are: Level 10 30k zoll + 30 blueprints, Level 15 45k + 45, and Level 20 90k + 90. Also a whole bunch of general blueprints but whatever. Barricader obviously outflies the Growlerand IEWS gives buffs + debuffs while Growler can only buff until Level 20. Can't chime in for the Prowler besides that it can only debuff until Level 20.
>>583650871>picwe need to talk
>>583651094I think they did a pretty ok job conveying that in englishHe sounds so happy :D
Every single match i get the medal for machine gun kills, do people not know how strong this thing is?
>Hortus Regis Alti>Everflow>Shadow 22>Frostwave>Times are ChangingDamn 8 has an amazing OST
>>583651308a lot of the nuggets can't wrap their heads around anything more complex than>high G turn >spam missilethat includes gun kills
>>583651308Takes more time than LAAMs or bombs so who cares
>>583651317for me it's Theve 2 shadow theme
>>583651308>>583651347mg is good if someone is 1 missile off death but wont stop moving, rake them once and they tend to die otherwise they think going back and forth over and over will save them from missiles alone
>>583651317ac never misses with music
>>583651153Growler has abilities that increase range on ECM/ESM and a level 20 "(ESM upgrade)", so it's probably better as a pure EW plane.No idea what that level 20 ability does and I don't think there's a way to check without getting to level 20 so fuck us I guess. Unless it's hidden somewhere because this UI sucks.
>Keep trying to eek some level of fun out of the online>Gets more and more cancerous by the dayI'm done
>the only non shit skin for the growler is the sotoa one>probably won't appear in the store for at least a couple weeks because of the retarded rotation
>>583651610oh is that what the timers were for? i genuinely thought they meant the skins you bought were temporary for that number of days. yes bandai would 100% do this
>>583651801nah they're just FOMOing the shit out of them
>>583651610The desert one from the gacha looks okay if you ask me. Which you didn't.The jammer pods stay white which looks bad though.
>>583651801I remember Maple Story's cash shop let you buy premium clothes that only lasted like, a month, basically just a rental
>>583651494I'm still gonna max both in anticipation of points capped modes one day, but buying the Barricader after investing so hard into the Growler made me feel like Shamrock thinking about his family. Online balance is so fucked in every possible way.
>>583651936>The desert one from the gacha looks okay if you ask me. Which you didn't.I'm not a fan of it, all the "one size fits all" slop skins look positively mid to meThey remind me of free skins in a p2w f2p shooters that would come out every other week in the 2010s which isn't too far off Unfortunately aside from the Sotoa skin I don't like any of the Growler skins and I don't understand ACES obsession with the checkered camo of the 188724
>>583652187it doesnt really help the contour skins are literally the exact same skin but the colors are changed. if the linework was different it'd be one thing but its literally the same
>>583652297Yeah, that tooThey just look really tackyThe green one is just a razer advertisement livery
>>583650060How do the japanese players feel about it?>ditto for limited sp weapons>laam spam online>x-40 uav
>>583652297>get a contour skin I can actually use from one of the supply tickets>equip it>3 gross blotchy "lines" that look like complete shitIt's actually incredible how bad they look. I was expecting like an actual contour map of many many lines showing elevation by stuff coming out from the fuselage or something similar, not someone haphazardly chucking paint buckets around.
>>583645229She's definitely feeling Rex's "Terminus Finger"
*opens radio*woaaooh oohhh oh ohhh woaooh oohh oohh oohh
Parts can stack in Online right I want to try silly shit like level 1 & 2 SASM blast radius
>>583651450I think "15 Years Ago" sucks
>>583652379It's weird how the higher rarity ones look worse than the lower ones. Teal+orange with a yellow underside is just what the fuck? It's like they went to the skin editor and then just hit the random button.
>>583652839https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgOJmkhdY0II think it's pretty good.
I feel like a retard for not knowing itWhat's the old plane you get after Mission 13?
It's so cool that online has degenerated into your own teams fighting over targets too now
>>583652478At least the neon green one looks funny on the A-10, it's like a skin you get from a bottle of Mountain Dew.
>>583652926>Teal+orange with a yellow underside is just what the fuck? It's like they went to the skin editor and then just hit the random button.That's the point, really, they're f2p skinsThey're not meant to look good
>>583652939>13You mean 14, and it's the A-6 Intruder
>>583652985Yeah, but at least the two star skins aren't visually offensive.
>>583653003Oh I meant the one in the cutscene after 13, I'm just starting 14. Thanks for the info
>>583652939i dunno lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
does the mig-21's MGP chew through enemies as quickly in ACO as it does in the campaign?
>>583653285You're never going to get into range to use it so who cares
Tell me about the Sotoan sheep that make Usean sheep look like pussies
>>583653285It's part of the 'honorable' SPW, so you know what that translates into, meh.
>>583653118<< LET'S GO DOWNTOWN >>
>>583653569https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBVDkJNnvqomy nigger
After replaying the game, I'm still at a loss about Just what the deal with Cope is, like, is he a ghost or something, or is he just inside the head of Ray? If he is just inside the head of Ray, then how did Baxter, on his death, hear him? Kate somehow made it out alive despite being badly wounded and sinking in the ocean, and somehow Tewy heard him because somehow ghosts might be real, which is the most confusing thing when the next game in the timeline has an AI murder plane being fed info about the war that might have never taken place because the whole game was an AI training sim for the AI murder plane
>>583653815a coping mechanism
>>583653285Yes but good luck using it. At least the F-4E has passable A2G stats so you can use it to blast raids.
>>583653856>>583653815Don't worry about it because i'm not sure even the people writing the story knew what the deal with Cope
>>583653815Ace Valhalla is real and all true Aces will go there when they die
>>583651610oh fuuuuark i need to buy the f-2 skin
>>583654026He embodies true Sotoan, unlike the royalty larpers which considers Promised Land their end of journey, his never ends even in death, he still travels around, with you as his vessel.
Is the F-35 the best of the three "endgame" planes? Raptor and Felon both have piss stability
>>583653815He says it himself multiple times, he's a ghost unable to pass on because there's 'something' he had to witness. And also your personal commentary with a Sotoan that isn't a huge warmongering retard.
>>583654307He also does eventually find the Promised Land, finding that it is becoming one with the whole of the land and sea of the world, a truly completed nomad.
>>583654189>>583654307>>583654601>>583654619It feels like they're going off the rails now because ghosts are real now, and so is Ace Valhalla
50 more games until I can unlock the Su-57
>>583651308If you're that low you're a bad attacker.
>>583654937and then what?
>>583654565It's the only one I have at the moment but it felt pretty good in the last couple missions
>>583654692well what could go wrong with putting magic and scifi together?
>>583654976then it's only 150 more matches to level it...
>>583654976i don't know
>>583653815I'm just going to leave this herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U%C3%A7mag
>>583654976Then it becomes grinding gold blueprints to level it.Oh wait you can only grind them from a randomly appearing mission and there's a daily cap on top of that.
>>583655030>He thinks the Su-57 will only need 300k ZollDon't forget that if you spent any number of your general blueprints chances are you won't be able to get to level 20 with any of the end game planes.Because punishing you for upgrading early game planes is such a FUN and UNIQUE game design idea.
what the FUCK is her problem?
I don't know wtf I hate more.Mihlay's "taking a missile at an angle that minimizes damage"Or this fucker having infinite flares
So how does the Strangereal economy work anyway?I used to headcanon that economies of scale made planes cheap as fuck, but the m28 mid-mission cutscene contradicts that.How is every country able to throw away endless amounts of trained pilots and planes?Are mute psychopaths really that strong that everyone is okay with throwing away trillions of zollars to possibly get one?
>>583655151Japanese men don't have childhoods so they fantasies about young teenagers even as adults. A stunted nation of degenerates.
>Do you have any words of encouragement?>Yes/No>Those were great words of encouragement.
>>583655196the superior look of someone who knows all your QAAMs are gonna miss
>>583655196Just shoot the faggot with your MG it's honestly a million times more satisfying that just hitting him with a missile
>>583655135It only takes 10 general blueprints to get low tier planes to max level and mid tier planes to level 15, so it's not that bad. You are probably fucked if you level a bunch of planes or a mid tier to max though.
>>583655196Mihaly's is worse
>>583655135>>583655351>i have 75 general blueprintsis that enough to level a 5th gen?
>>583655151Made for FCU dihh
>>583655214Planes are about as expensive as cars, Belka and Yuktobania just build superweapons to sell to other countries, and Savia's economy depends on mercenaries.
>>583655475Savians are just Eruseans right? How fucked up are they now?
>>583655537Savia's doing well enough to pull infinite Rafales out of its ass at least.
>>583653815I feel like Ray was just making up the Cope monologue because he was crazy and traumatized. It's why Cope often doesn't tell you anything important about the plot until after the key info is already revealed. The parts where he warns you about certain numbers are just Ray's ace instincts giving him a gut feeling about something which is vocalized by Cope.
>>583655242Could you just imagine:>Kate: wow, where am I?>Cope: oh, hi Kate!>Kate: Cope?! is that you? so is this what happens when>Cope: yea....>Kate: where am I? can Rex hear us?>Cope: mmhmm all while your squad is breaking down and you can't tell them you hear dead people
>>583655440More than enough. Low tier planes need 0/0/10, mid tiers need 0/10/20, high tiers need 10/20/30.I assume you bought the battlepass if you have that many. If you didn't have the blueprints from that you'd be nowhere close.
>>583655602I don't know, to think Cope and Tewy used to be an item seems way too much of a stretch, not even a schizo can go that far i think
>>583655647Yeah I bought the good goy edition which includes the battlepass
I just got done playing Cold War again.Sukhoi 27, my beloved.
>>583655214The deluge of aces and the undeniable fact that 6 out of 3 Strangereal wars are finished by a mute autist lead everyone to try and get their own mute autist pilot>>583654189Imagine how many of them gather together just waiting to finally gang up on Cipher.Sadly, a Demon Lord has no place in heaven
I just wan to say I found it really funny how the game throws in these little moments where you're supposed to sympathize with the Sotoans despite all the awful shit, culminating with Selene's prayer to Wings then they follow it up with an absolutely brutal on screen death and everyone shitting on her including Cope Felt like two dueling writers
>>583655702Cope knew her but he seems to have mostly contempt for her
>>583643612Artificial Tasha isn't real, she can't hurt you.https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/146673798
>>583656208LA ATROCIDAD DE CINIGRAD
>>583656229>they still haven't cleared the shilage castle stagegripenbros...
I've legit got like 20 scrambles so far and not a single emergency sortie, what gives?
>>583655215she is a fucking circus acrobat drafted into a fucking jet fighter, the fuck do you expect her to look, shaved skull, no nonsense attitude,scars from barfights, basically the XO but whiteshe is there to write home how fucking dire this fucking war is and how deep on the edge of destruction the FCU was that they'd hire ANYONELITERALLYANYONEBAXTER - A FUCKING SPACE GARDEN NIGGACOPE - A FUCKING PACIFIST NIGGA COSTER - A FUCKING MUTE NIGGAKATE - okay kate is cool(YOU) - A FUCKING SCHIZO THEY FISHED OUT OF THE FUCKING WATERAND THE FUCKING YUKTOBANIAN CIRCUS CLOWN WITH DYED HAIRIN FACT THE DYED HAIR ACTUALLY TELLS THE STORY OF HOW LONG SHE HAS BEEN DOING THIS SHIT BY HOW MUCH THE PINK HAS OUTGROWN HER NORMAL HAIR COLOR ALREADY SHE MUST'VE BEEN ON THE ENDURANCE FOR AT LEAST MONTHS TO GROW HER HAIR OUT THIS MUCHFUCK NIGGA THINK FOR A MOMENT GODDAMITI'M NOT EVEN A TASHA FAN BUT EVEN I CAN TELL WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY WITH THIS CHARACTER SHE IS A CIVIE DRAFTED INTO FUCKING HELL BECAUSE SHE CAN FLY
>>583656475Not reading allat
>>583656475>IN FACT THE DYED HAIR ACTUALLY TELLS THE STORY OF HOW LONG SHE HAS BEEN DOING THIS SHIT BY HOW MUCH THE PINK HAS OUTGROWN HER NORMAL HAIR COLOR ALREADY SHE MUST'VE BEEN ON THE ENDURANCE FOR AT LEAST MONTHS TO GROW HER HAIR OUT THIS MUCHoooh
>>583655196That's a matter of interpretation
>>583656317She's trying her best
>>583656475>she is there to write home how fucking dire this fucking war isimagine Mrs. Tasha reading about the Shadows bullying her daughter. She'd probably hop on a coffin and bomb Sotoa herself
>>583655196It's a bug, right? PA will fix it so they have the standard number of Su-57 flares, right?
>>583656475>(YOU) - A FUCKING SCHIZO THEY FISHED OUT OF THE FUCKING WATERRemember Rex was a fucking Air Force helicopter pilot before all this
You can tell they had to write it this way because of the licensing agreements, because this is not only completely uninformative but also ESL
>>583656735>Eurofighter Typhoon is one of the leading combat aircraft in the world
What a generous reward for playing ONE HUNDRED and FIFTY games in one plane
The eurofighter is an uggo jet
>>583656735>You can tell they had to write it this way because of the licensing agreementsThat shit is pure AD copy
I hope the eventual DLC missions give us more Purple Magic songs
as much as the foxhound is metaslavery i can't help but appreciate Fastlooking forward to getting QAAMs on it tomorrowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTSZDsrDn7I
Do the stat bars lie as hard as they did in 7?
I'm going to be honest with youThere probably won't be any DLC missions, we would've heard by nowWe knew about the AC7 ones from the season pass before release
>>583656620>play Selene>Moon 11's monologuing while circling the land battleship>sudden railgun strikes eliminate her barrier drones>another X-40 prototype comes burning in out of no where, its laser drones engaging Moon 11's as the two start climbing>catch a glimpse of a stag painted on the newcomer's plane> << I THOUGHT I CLIPPED YOUR WINGS, SOTOAN CYKA >>
mavisimen?more like made for my semen, if you know what i mean
>>583656637> No
I just want them to improve the shit multiplayer, bros... at least one patch, come on... it's been a week...
love not being able to play the game because some whiny faggot quits the game because someone is too meta or not meta enough
>>583657495two more weeks until it gets fixed
>>583656475 The issue is that she had a chance to leave back after Theves was retaken but decided to go onboard, and go do fuck all every mission underneath the sun if it meant flying with the rest of the squadron. What caused her is to mind break was watching Queen Squadron get annihilated, ontop of Baxter's death, and watching Kate get clipped. This is also why Kate is the better wife over Tasha, because Tasha is a teenager who saw all of her friends aboard the Endurance, who were arguably more of her family than her mom and pop were fucking die one by one thanks to the Sotoans, and chooses to nope out but Kate legit just see's all this shit and decides to help anyways because she's a career woman. That and honestly, you fly in as WSO for her in King Squadron anyways so uh. Yeah no, Kate is your canon wife as much as Blaze is to Kei Nagase.
i missed my dailies yesterday i will never finish the pass now
Meanwhile: JP players
>>583657960Based
>>583656637That’s a matter of perspective.
>>583657960I've seen enough, keep the A-10 in service for another century
>>583656620>>583657169>unknown X40 shoots down Selene>both FCU and Sotoans are quiet>X40 Pilot: << Now which one of you playboys is Coster >>
>>583656880>experience contractI'd really hope you'd already have enough experience to be at max level after that many games.Then again the level cap might waste a lot of it.
>>583656880but what's the reward for 200
>>583658187Leveling planes is piss easy. Leveling pilot levels is set in stone at 100 a match. So these contracts (and those combat XP drives) are pretty much a waste of time.
Yoko Taro personally received a copy of AC8 from Kono.
>>583658240I noticed the nickname for 50 games is only 3 stars, so maybe it'll be a 4 star one.
>>583658240Suicide
>>583657742I haven't done a single daily because they won't let me play due to using Linux.
Listen to me /aceg/Watch out for "750". I keep hearing this number over and over...
>>583655196>UUUUHH MY EASY-MODE GAME CRUTCH DOESN'T WORK AGAINST ONE SINGLE ENEMY IN THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN>UAAAAAAH I ACTUALLY HAVE TO PRESS (A) TO DEFEAT HIM PA FIX IT NOW!!!!
We hear you, to improve online following changes have been made>Scramble and Emergency no longer random, instead you must complete 10 games in a row to unlock them one (1) time>Zoll rewards have been increased, Zoll is now rewarded depending on scoreboard rank starting at 100 Zoll for bottom to 2000 for MvP>Difficulty has been increased, if go match without dying, you will be matched with Morgans and MiGs in next match >LAAMs have been re-balanced, they now track better but from a 10,000km with reduced tracking beyond 10,001km >General blueprints can now be purchased in the store for 50,000 Zoll eachWe hope you enjoy new and improve Ace Combat Online
Does increasing missile speed make them worse at turning?
>>583655196I want to see someone draw an image of him stuffing chaff and flares into his plane, with them spilling out on him and gathering around his feet.
I can't get into an assault game because NIGGERS keep levaing I hope they get raped
what's the trick to mission 15i got one of them after swapping back and forth and unloading missiles+qaams into the engines on cooldown but then the other whips out two fucking laser ciws when i can already barely stay in range unless they're mid turn
>>583656009I think it's a reminder that these are people.Absolutely awful people that sent their country into ruin, but people nonetheless.
>>583656475Tasha even refuses to shoot people down at first. Baxter and Coster do everything they can to protect her. Her woohoo happy go lucky personality placed into desperate war was such a great addition.
>>583659264Guns.
>>583659264Fixed flight pattern in a figure 8. follow the contrail, it only goes really fast in a straight line but decelerates significantly when it has to turn.
>>583659395guns don't seem to do anything even when i'm directly up their ass>>583659408>a figure 8didn't realize until now, thanks
>Ace Combat 3 AI slop assisted remake by Indianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slaMtSZPyb8
>>583656620>Mrs TashaIt's kinda funny how she was apparently an Ace in the last war and the true rival of the enemy Ace, but she doesn't even get a first name.
>>583659493Equip the pods. Pod with the pods. Just in case though, we're Phantoms.
>>583659264Try to split damage between them equally. Once you kill one the other one brings out the ciws and drones. If you do them one at a time that means the survivor has the upgrades and 100% hp. If you split your damage then when you kill the first the second will be nearly dead so it won't get much use out of the new weapons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl02jOKEm7YI didn't know you could even kill the airship in time, is it actually possible to kill the designators on the ground in time? Has anyone tried it?
Mission 28 still cracks me up. They sent a thousand air assets to bomb one island and lost to like 20 defenders. Like what was the play there? The bombers were unprotected and their best guy was out there aurafarming in the comms then showing up after the fleet was decimated.
>surely our automatic systems will more than make up the difference in skill!>OH N-silly nuggets
>>583659979>gets boiled alive
>>583659783Almost makes you wonder why we don't still use mongolian horse combat tactics in modern warfare.
>>583658264Drakengard and Ace Combat were close in the beginning
>DD fucking paid the mercs with with his own moneyI'm sorry I ever doubted you DD. I'm sorry for thinking you sold me out to your techbro friends after the refueling fiasco.
>>583659783If they fail, at least it purges more of the warmonger sotoans
>>583659332>Absolutely awful people that sent their country into ruin, but people nonetheless.I think is very important for the kind of stories Ace Combat likes to tell.
>>583660073Oh yeah, Weren't the Drakengard dev mostly flightsim guys which is why the actual action gameplay of Draksngard fucking sucks?
So what are the odds they add shit like the F-104 to 8 at some point?
>>583660073>mute skitzo flies around killing thousands of faceless enemy mooksIt checks out>>583659783Imagine if Toprak went out in the first wave like an AC protagonist and tried to escort the bombers instead of aura farming on the comms until the battle was already lost? Technically it's Moon's fault for stopping him from deploying until the end. That stupid bitch ruins everything.
>>583659783It's even worse because they arrive in waves so you have time to shoot them down. The point of sending in a million guys is you send in a million guys, not a load of small groups one by one.
>>583660228Alot of the electrosphere team went on to develop it, it was half Iwasakis vision
>>583659635can phantoms fly fast enough? i'm in a super hornet and 2800 max speed isn't able to come close to them except at the very slowest part of the turn, even knowing where they're going to turn>>583659693tried that on the latest attempt, didn't kill 2 until taking out one of 1's engines, but most of the ships were still gone by that point and 1 shit out so many missiles that i just diedrestarting this mission is a pain in the ass because i have to immediately fly northeast and jerk off for a few minutes at high altitude and it's still really easy to miss the window to hit them
What does the MF on your plane's tail stand for?
>>583635309Japan Moment. Their language tends to be a bit more concise with the character limit.
>>583660663Multiplayer's Fucked
Do we know how Rex looks like or nah?
>>583660792Like (you)
>>583660792If he looks like Cope then it must have been awkward having tea with Tewy and Toprak
Playing AC3 translated jp version for the first time and just got the Keith route ending.Is this really the game so many AC fans are putting in A and B tier?Your plane handles like a bus and is always faster than the enemy planes, you HAVE to fire at them from a distance. Missiles and guns all have dogshit accuracy and range.Why are people ranking this game so high? Just because of the branching storyline?I'm gonna play the rest to get the other endings, but right now my opinion is that it's highly overrated by dweeby weebs who played the original untranslated version and are elitist about it because the west just so happened to get a gutted version of it.AC2 > AC3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn9cag6QrcsI like that they went full Assault Horizon for one song
https://x.com/g2so44aq/status/2107650581976453471ok
FUCK YOUUUUU
>WE are the wings of Theve! Not just Rex!WE? Who the fuck is WE? You fuckers don't even have the balls to follow me inside a tunnel. Fucking Count did it with a damaged plane. You guys have no excuse cause I all bought you endgame shit.
>>583660792>Do we know how RexWhite male with short hair, according to his shadow.
>>583661214I was expecting at least Tasha to follow you into tunnels
>>583661216Shadow huh? There's that word again /aceg/.
>>583655196Mihaly at least gets hit when he's supposed to. This cunt actively cheats right in your face.
Are Tewy and Toprak the lamest rivals in an AC game?>Toprak>fails to beat a pacifist three times, loses at least one wingman chasing said pacifist the fourth time before finally shooting him down>LARPs about muh honor but then also shoots down parachuting enemies>has so many Lux Lunae units under his command that they don't even feel like special forces, just named mooks>tribal chanting theme song sucks compared to Coster's rock and roll>spends his final hours aura farming on the comms while a thousand of his comrades die, only to join the battle when it's already lost, then dies without achieving anything>Tewy>got BTFO by Yuktobanians>has a superplane but isn't really that scary because she just shows up, mogs someone who can't fight back, then leaves without elaborating>final battle against Rex is really lame without any twists or dramatic moments, just gets shot up and then dies without achieving anythingI was more afraid of the aggressor squadron from AC5 than Lux Lunae or either of these clowns. Even Hamilton had more feats than these fuckwits. Sure he failed miserably but he had the balls to stake everything on a tunnel run which is at least something cool.
>>583655196Mihaly's special tanking technique is funny. Shadow 22 and the flares up his ass isn't. Hell he doesn't even need them cause the things just miss anyway.
>>583661312>actively cheatshe literally doesn't. He uses flares to make missles miss. Mihlay is using Belkan magic
>>583661343So much stuff flew over your head that you must have been parked on the apron the whole game
Count would body the fucking Wings of Theve peanut gallery. There I said it. Probably the second the best wingman pilot next to Pixy(if he counts).
>>583661421so much of the complaints against 8 is really is just gamerdads who cant handle the slightest bit of mechanical friction in their videogames, they just want enemy aces to line up in front of them for easy sidewinder kills like every other mook in the game
>>583661260>daughter of the Ace that shot down Moon in a draw>from the nation that fucked over Sotoa in the first place>was born with the ability to "feel the wind" making her instinctively move like an ace pilotIt feels like Tasha was setup to be your "peer wingman" like Count was, but she's simply too young.Which, if it was intentional and meant to show a potential ace being thrown into war before they can become the true ace they're meant to be, it's actually really interesting writing about young soldiers drafted into conflicts they have no part in.
>>583661421He flares and stunts on you literally every single time. There's no pattern to exploit, only guns actually do anything.
>>583661863The moment I saw my missles magically not hit without any flares was the moment I knew I had to use the MG. Fuck this guy. At least Mihaly played fair.
I've never been at risk at actually failing a scramble but I can't help but get the feeling that the 3 guys I'm with would not succeed if I wasn't here.
>>583661863There's 3 types of acesThose who seek strength. (Pixy)Those who live for pride. (Mihlay)And those who can read the tide of battle. (Toprak)
>>583662041>recieves Cope>becomes HopePottery.
>>583660067We still do though??>Parthian shotThat's just firing backwards as vehicle leave. A tank can do it>EnvelopmentClassic>False retreatStill do>Cavalry chargeIran-Iraq War still have tanks charging against the enemy
>>583661863Toprack spent more time trying to do epic montage / 0mg videos on me that the game registered me running into him as a legit kill. It’s really funny.Also on the topic of MG’ing people. I don’t know if I’m rusty but I was having a far easier time using my guns in ace combat 5, zero and 4 than I am in 8. Same thing goes for Project Wingman.
>>583662041Those who have bullshit ECM armorThose who have total setpiece invulnerabilityAnd those who have infinite flares and missile tracking disabling kulbits
>>583661963I'm starting to believe these are just bots with custom names and avatars because no way are people actually that retarded.
>>583662295>Same thing goes for Project WingmanI can't shoot for shit in Project Wingman, idk why.I have to be literally going down on the enemy to hit anything.
>>583662295Gun reticle is practically useless in 7 and 8, don't bother using them as a guidance system
>>583662041spamming flares is not "reading the tide of battle"
>>583662612>i'm going to die>hit "not die" button>don't dieSounds like reading the tide of battle to me.
>>583662431>>583662456I know the concept of lining up units with the corona and that bullets in Ace combat (and project wingman.) have fall off. It’s just, really fucking hard to control gun control in 8 for me. I’m pretty sure I have to be going at a speed of 500 or lower to be steady with it, but with how some of these missions (and dogfights.) go, I’m usually doing 0g turns at 1200 to cause a jousting situation.
Is SFFS still the undisputed god of A2G weapons?
>>583662780Are you using type b reticle
>>583663240Not him but I tried A and B and couldn't tell the difference
>>583663240Default setting + “pro” controls.
>>583660531Phantoms were build for speed.
>Rex grabs Cope's tags at the beginning, as they sink to the bottom of the ocean>at the end he has them in his cockpit fever dream>then they're gone and on the ground in the middle of a desertI don't get what the game is trying to say here. Did he never have them and they managed to magically move from the ocean bed to a desert? Did it get transpose there by ghost magic? Bizarre.pic unrelated
>Your entire nation just got wiped out by an aggressive war seeking nation with a plethora of horrific super weapons >"i-i feel bad for the other side, they're just doing what they have to do to survive..."We didn't drop enough nukes on Japan.
>>583660849>Like (me)>me and kate
>>583663669they landed and made a small memorial/burial for Cope in Sotoa.Since they can't give him a proper send off due to his death being struck from the record
>>583662936Pretty much. I think its the only thing you can use to one shot carriers outside of cruise missiles, but they have less ammo and a longer reload. The MPBM is also OP as fuck, but it has the same limitations of cruises.
>>583663757Oh, that makes sense. Though, hopefully they landed at a strip of some sort, jets can't really into bush flying.
>>583662387A quick peak to the steam discussion would enlighten you
>>583663669Anon there's this concept called moving where you take an object from one place to another, sometimes by hand.
>>583663858Yeah I didn't get the landing part of it, I assumed it was just a hallucination during flight and nothing else happened in relation to the aircraft outside of being closer tp returning to base.
>>583650928kawamori should design more planes
If Aigaion or SOLG gets added to Online does that give the 6AAM a chance?
>>583662387The ones that are actual bots provided by the game are called NAME(CPU) and spend the entire match flying into the ground repeatedly. So a slight improvement.
>>583663970>Yeah I didn't get the landing part of it,dnot be scuh a colwnBasically they expected your mind to fill in the blanks for the sake of pacing
kate nyo......
>>583663985>SOLGSASM>aigaioni dont remember a fucking thing about it other than it has runways
>>583664074CPUS be CPUingstay mad
>>583664226>Kate has joined the server><< Hi Kate! >>><<Cope? Where am I >>><<In Rex's head >>
>>583663985Aigaion is for bombs
>>583664332>markov instead of makarovwow real creative PA
>>583663669>Did it get transpose there by ghost magic?It's this one. You finish seeing a vision of the afterlife and your hand is still outstretched like it was before the vision.>Kate landedWhere? It's a desert wasteland. And while on a patrol mission over a nation you were just at war with? Nope. 100% ghost shenanigans.
>>583664393kate was... inside me?
>>583664226Her crashing like a few hundred metres from a bunch of FCU ships is pretty funny
>>583659264Try spinning, that's a neat trick
Man I really wish they'd just have ported ace4 instead of zero. It woulda made so much more sense.Starting the online with a F-22 -MOBIUS- would also have been a lot nicer.That said why is there not a single reference to any of the older games aside from ace7 in the campaign? I don't think I've seen a single ISAF logo anywhere either.
>>583664476tbf, what are they going to do to stop you? Their entire airforce is in the promise land last I checked
>>583663240>type b reticentNTA but I didn't know about this, holy shit the gun reticle is actually usable now
>>583664509There's ISAF logos on both the rebel C-130 and the A-6 you "borrow" in San SalvacionNewfield Island was a map in 4 also, in 8 it's way more developed and they have an awesome tower in the crater
>>583664509How do you miss the ISAF logo on an A-6, Nagashit, and revisiting half the locations from 04 & 7 east of Erusea
>>583664509the land battleship parks in Stonehenge and does fuck all.Also Yuktobania mention is technically a 5/Zero reference? They weren't in 4 or 7.General Resource is also an AC3 ref
>>583664509did you just forget about Nagase?
>>583664670>There's ISAF logos on both the rebel C-130 and the A-6 you "borrow" in San SalvacionHuh. That's actually super cool, I didn't see those. Completely slipped my eye.Newfield Island was a map in 4 also, in 8 it's way more developed and they have an awesome tower in the craterYeah, I do like that a lot of the maps and areas come back. Just wish they'd actually mention stuff that happened.>>583664748Nagase is in every game, that doesn't really count.>>583664797There's a lot of AC3 stuff, yeah, but not much from the older "in the timeline" stuff. Pretty sure the Yukes have been on the map since the start, though.I'm gonna go look at the A-6 again, I wanna see the logo. Thanks!
>>583664509Isn't Nagase literally in the game.
>>583664509>i need to dickride mobius one some moretheres a special breed of yall people that always come out of the woodwork>>583664797>Also Yuktobania mention is technically a 5/Zero reference? They weren't in 4 or 7.a nation in a persistent lore/world is a reference now?
>>583664549let me try it myself later, where's the setting?
>>583664797>the land battleship parks in Stonehenge and does fuck allTbf at this point Stonehenge is literally just a ruin.
Is it just me or are maps in 8 really plain and boring, terrain wise? its all just mild mountain valleys and >muh clouds8 mogs 7 in every other aspect so hard its not even funny, but First Contact is cooler than anything wings of sheev has to offer in terms of complex locations to navigate
>>583664969>>i need to dickride mobius one some more>theres a special breed of yall people that always come out of the woodworkNo, dickweed, It woulda made sense to port 4 first, since that was the first PS2 game. And it works better thematically, because it's set in the same nation. AND it would've been a good first try for the porting as well, so they could polish up 5 and 0 afterwards.
>>583664995then fucking dispose of it already, why do you guys still leave it there when it's doing nothing?
>>583665047nah, you have a point. 7 had better terrain and maps half of 8's maps are open water
>>583665087It kinda saved the world the world that one time, probably a fuckton of paperwork and red tape you'd have to go through if you want to remove it.
>>583664995>>583664797as some anons suggested in previous threads you could make up some bullshit about them assessing whether or not the eruseans had any capacity to restore it to working order>>583665068lets get a few things out of the way>every other person in AC7 online was call sign mobius one spamming QAAMs and using a raptor>the main antagonist of the DLC mission literally was in a mental decline due to being sunk by mobius one>We go to plenty of locations featured in AC04 in 7 and plenty are shown or mentioned in 8,, including ComonaLastly>sotoa doesnt even attempt to touch north pointisnt that enough
>>583665161could've at least rebuilt one or two before the war just in case for some space threat like the tonitrus spear
>and the award for best music goes to.....
>>583665263Oseans and Yukes not giving 2 shits about the spears kinda implies they had counter measures.
>>583665489Give it up, you guys. Any game justly deserving of awards will never win anything at these phony shows.The game awards are pay-to-win.
>>583665534surely that elevator could've been used as something to counter tonitrus, but Harling would be rolling in his grave to see another one of his products becoming another weapon
>>583665110Now you know the loneliness and isolation of the ocean. Cope tried to warn you, Ray.
>>583665534>they had counter measuresThe counter-measures being some other shit that can also be delivered and exploded aka MAD.
>>583664332That fucking amazing.
>>583665489game journos and the review industry will never recover if Mixtape doesn't win music
>>583665489>Mixtape!
i just have to say that fuscus 1 and 2 are immensely basedi wish you could fly a plane that's half as cool as theirs
>>583665534>>583665643They would just tell Trigger he's allowed to tunnel run the space elevator again as a reward and he'd come out of retirement to deal with it.
>>583665791>>583665818Either this or GTA6 or some other indie I've no idea about.
>>583664231plays the same as the arsenal bird except the finishing target is inside, but you can angle missiles without having to fly in
>voiced protagonist in the next gameYay or Nay.
The computerized voice from the sub missiles freaked me out. Was it supposed to represent proto-Nemo? Did anyone catch all the lines it says? I heard "Roger, roger, roger." and "(something) to target (something)" but the rest was too garbled for me.
>>583665952I'd rather not
>>583658115But make the gun bigger
>>5836639856AAM is good on arsenal bird tho
https://youtu.be/mtyGmO5AaSA?t=379The way they timed the music shifts with the dialogue in this game is fucking nutsI dont know any other game whose>idle chatter>music>general sound design>scripted momentsall work more harmoniouslyHell>Wings of theve songcorny as FUCK, but by the end? with the big world-is-one kum-ba-ya shit? that had me believing in wingsAnd even though tewy was ridiciulous and hard to take seriously all game, the duel itself was perfection as a story climax
>>583665838Fuscus 1 is either Dan Southworth or someone trying really hard to sound like him
>>583664509I think some of the boats in the sun popping mission have AC6 reference logos, and the mercs have some AC0 reference emblems in mission 28.
>>583662936that would be the UGBL
>>583665952nah
>>583666070oh my god, you're rightthat just makes them even more based
>>583666067>spoilerit's undeserved IMOThe whole world coming together to cheer on Wings. But the stakes are just to see if Enso will go to jail or not. It's not like SOLG or Hugin/Mugin bringing Armageddon still a cool moment
>>583665974it's basically just announcing its moves like "drones away"/"launching missles" in German
>>583666257nah fuck that its as much for DD getting his completion as a character as it is Wings doing his victory lap, its just a corny feel-good mission like watching the ridiculous "we got everyone back" code gayass movieit also allows M29 to be more personal
https://youtube.com/shorts/w1kWeQ8U4j8
>>583666356will they ever stop? It's not even funny anymore, I don't even think this is revenge, they're just doing it for the love of the game.
>>583665818Ugh, shit, they WOULD.
>>583666442>It's not even funny anymoreit never stopped being funnyeven if they aren't behind it, theyre never beating the allegations
>>583666435Not him, but I think it would have been far more effective and made much more sense if it was placed in M28, it would even bolster your feelings of M29 being a personal farewell, and make M30 a haunting cliffhanger for what's to come in AC3x3.
>>583666442>for the love of the game.yes.
>>583666257Hugin and Mugin fucking sucked man>hey remember this thing you killed 10 missions ago?>well now there's TWO OF EM>and they still don't talk or have any real motivation beyond being out of control weaponsThe Arsenal Bird is the real final boss and even then it's one you've already fought, and Mihaly is the last fight that that actually feels like oneI'm convinced AC7 had some major rewrites because of how rough its development was
>>583666587tewy has char syndrome>doesnt really give a fuck about the cause>but so many people put their hopes and dreams in her she has to spout nonsense and by the end she found a way to get herself killed flying while fucking over enso regardless of the outcomeI think either end works honestly and could be argued for but both have their pros and cons for story/timing
>>583666715honestly all these AI final boss fights seems like they're trying to connect to AC3 to me while forsaking the entire plot for the sake of it
>>583666442The Belkans will up their game thanks to Sotoa outdoing them in retardation.
>>583666715both 7 and 8 have clearly conflicting plot points. It feels like they have 2 head writers that don't talk to each other writing an A and B plot. Then team just mashes the stories together.
i love timegates
>>583666715>>and they still don't talkdoes he know?
i dont get. what is cripple woman's goal? did she really want to save sotoa's fields? but cope said shes a larper. is she another mihaly that wanted a war so that she could fly again?
>>583666715>I'm convinced AC7 had some major rewrites because of how rough its development wasThey rewrote the story 2-4 times iirc
>>583666435>spoilerI got my smile. My ship sailed. I am happy. Simple as
>>583666936The crippled woman goal was to give PA a reason to make another Ace Combat, for had she not started the war the new game wouldn't have come out.Say "Thank you, Crippled woman"
>>583666257Enso didn't even start the war but everyone acts like it was another 8492 situation, Sotoa did pretty much everything with no encouragement and all Enso did was turn it from a curbstomp into a boxing match
>>583666903>finally figure out my eternal ST3100011, basically need to preload assets by launching the AC:O training mode>season pass has me play warfare>get downed instantly by MIG31's in my brand spanking new F-4>next match is 4 F-4's (my team) vs>a GAME>A golden Pixy (THE MAX SEASON PASS RWD BTW>an F35>a Felon>We somehow lead phase 1 and 2 but get outsped to the targets in phase 3 and losesomeone out there is having less fun than youthat someone is me
>not had a single scramble yetfucking gacha modes just make it selectable
>>583665984When's the last time you washed your jets balls, buddies
>>583667045hey i said it was ridiculous, i didnt say I dont like it and never said i dont recommend it to literally everyone who i talk with about anime
>everyone in this screenshot dies except you
>>583667171>They hit the second tower
>>583667171the village girl dies?
>>583667271did you forget her village got transformed into a yurt shaped cloud?
>>583666936she was "Total Sotoan Supremacy".Towards the end, when they were losing, she wanted the war elders to nuke Theve but they were too practical/following Enso's orders.When they died, she was in charge and she sent everyone to their death to distract Wings, while she tried to nuke Theve and Enso for using them in the most crashout way possibleCope calls her a Larper because Nomads do not waste, they use everything of a sheep. While Cripply was all too willing to burn everyone and everything to prove the Nomad way of life is superior
>>583667171Nah she's fine. You can see her in M30's cutscene and the ending slide.
>>583666715>AC7 had some major rewrites because of how rough its development wasIt's funny how people don't know this still
>>583667323Just because she's in the direct line of danger doesn't mean she's dead. Last time someone jumped off a space elevator with helmet off and she's fine
>take a ground attacker>all units you target are deleted before you by, in order:>MPBM>UGB (from a multirole)>Fighter standard missilesJust remove attackers from the game already, they're useless
>>583667171Twey's robocock
Hopefully, someday I get to bomb whatever country that princess cunt is from. Fuck Rosie.
>>583667323the thing about Rods from God is they're not nuclear, just big booms
>>583667506You've had that opportunity in at least 3 games
>>583667380You know what, yeah you're right. I dunno how I forgot about that.Relatedly, can you cheese dick this section like you could M4 of AC7 and skip a portion of it by flying between radar sections you'd think weren't navigable.
>>583667506Erusua has had enough. Poland levels of raped.
>>583667506AC4???
>>583667506>Fuck RosieI'd do it to her voice, it's slowly getting to me.
>>583666936See my post here >>583666787All game Cope does nothing but suggest>shes just spouting nationalistic rhetoric BS and that isnt her and not the person i knowBut what is consistent is>as a member of the regional nobility she had a responsibility to fulfill the people's interestsso whether she wanted to be the kind of person that inspired cope to fly or not, her hands were tied great expectations and all that so she chose country over selfso yeah 100% she's a larper, she says precisely what the people want her to hear and does anything to win including any and all cheap tacticstheres some visual and story metaphor to how being a "bird with clipped wings" she lacks the freedom to fly as cope did or some shitbut you help her find her freedom from her duty and responsibilities when you help her end herX-40 nightmare>>583667434i think you're forgetting why baxter was so bent out of shape
>>583667595Forgor img.
>>583667626You do that in 4? I love 4 now even though I still kind of don't.Wouldn't mind doing it AGAIN.
>>583667545a big explosion makes a mushroom cloud, thats not exclusive to nukes>>583667506>isnt familiar with the flag featured on one of the most iconic ace combat plane/skins of all timebruh
>>583666936Draining the swamp of Sotoan warlords that lapped up Enso's ideas while getting the world to focus its attention on Enso via selling her's and Toprak's humanity to ensure the world retained their souls and them not be fed into a corporate machine and new world order. You should be thanking her even though you're right to hate her and Toprak, she gets to the promised land despite everything she did because of this. It was a necessary evil.Cope was wrong when calling her a larper, she used every part of herself to achieve it, schizo shepherd ghost couldn't grasp her 200IQ plan of taking onboard every sin for a better future. The human spirit trumps the engineered one, total sublimation death. AC3 depression avoided, thankyou Tewy Jesus.
>>583667595the radar gaps are fake, i didn't find any hole at least, maybe a missed one, the sortcut is the best thing you get
>>583667690there's also AC7 VR. Erusia has had enough man
>>583667690>You do that in 4?>I love 4 now>even though I still kind of don't>I wouldn't mind doing it AGAINWhat even is this postDid you play the game or notDid you skip every cutscene and mute all dialogueI'm not even gonna ask about Operation Katina
>>583667804Cuckprak, shouldn't you be loading flares into your plane?
>>583667771>>583667871Gotta be honest, played through these games multiple times and I still mix these countries up and often forget who exactly fights who in which game.I kinda skipped most briefings I think and wasn't into the story of 4 that much.
>>583667871it doesnt matter the context, anytime 04 or 5 are brought up its rage inducing in some way
>>583667595>>583667681I just have to say, the canyon run in this game absolutely sucks total shit, as in it might be the worst in the entire fucking history of ace combat. Forced shit plane, slow flying, fucking double stealth segment with the UAV cones, lame matrix vision, no guns, and lasts fucking forever. Genuinely atrocious.
>Baxters glasses "visualise" radar>pic rel is what he sees during an avarage furballOld man still knows how to party
Fighters should do no damage to ground units
>>583656475I understand what the character representsShe's still fucking annoying and I want her to shut up
>>583667973>feel strong enough about a princess of non-peace that you want to see her blown up>dont give a fuck about any context???
>>583667915Flares dont do shit vs guns, offload your Toprak trauma elsewhere buddy
>>583667771I remember early in the Iraq war, we had leftover Daisy Cutter bombs (BLU-82), massive bombs that were for making instant chopper landing zones during Vietnam, and when they first dropped them some of the soldiers thought we'd begun dropping nukes because the mushroom clouds were so massive.
>>583656475tasha would still unironically be QT bald
>>583668083Something about the way she speaks. Really irks me. Maybe she's too anime for me.
There should be a part that turns your flare into death balls of fire
>>583668030He even tells Dealer that his eyes are fine when he should be built like Geordi La Forge, damn
>>583668030As dumb as it was, It does explain how he knew where the X40 railgun was aiming
>>583668023should've copied top gun except had us fly a crop duster against su57s
>>583668148the fact that shes royalty and speaks with cadence and slowly/carefully but only after having chosen her words? its honestly great voice direction>>583668142Im reminded of a story where some dudes were pinned down in [some war] and called in counter indirect fire and the USS MISSOURI or some shit answered the request because it was on standby for requestscouldve been a fever dream
>>583668030That explains why his eyes were so red when he kicked it.
>>583668268>shes royalty and speaks with cadence and slowly/carefully but only after having chosen her wordsShe speaks like she's a cartoon character or a really naive retard. It's too much. The only character to annoy me to this degree in this whole series.
>>583668020>zaptroxix's upload of song of wings -as one- has a giant comment tirade about how the entire song and mission is actually about ac5 and the endurance is actually an ac5 reference (everflow has .2 seconds of generic run which is actually the unsung war leitmotif btw)I'm beginning to tire of trilogyfags
>>583668238Its funny how Baxter is so dedicated to keeping alive whoever the wings of theve is at the time but the supposed all knowing Cope in your head can't even remember the name of his number 1 wingman when you meet on the deck. I'm sure this means nothing...
>>583668083Let's be honest here, any context just makes Rosie worse.Having her camping the ISEV is so bizarre given she was the one that started a war to take it down.Like having Trump move to Iran and talk about how amazing and beautiful it is
AC4's soundtrack is so fucking overrated. I can only remember>Blockade>Tango Line>Invincible Fleet (only one part of this is actually good)>Comona>Megalith>Blue Skies
>>583630602>The fort grays molemen finally came out to help>One of them starts screaming on the comms threatening to ram the enemyI fucking love this game. I fucking love this series. 100 BILLION DOLLARS TO BELKA!
>>583668502>We shall ram into the enemy with righteous glory>What the fuck-- NO! Don't ram them, you retards!
Rosa could've whistleblown on Enso way in advance and saved lives but she just uses the opportunity to talk down to DD over sociial media posts like she's some sort of elf
>>583667469Works on my machine(an Su-34).
>>58366780410/10 post
>>583668389Because is makes 0 sense for the world to come together and sing a song peace over protecting a phone.While 5 was about Osea and Yuktobania working together to prevent the destruction of the world
>>583666835The big thing with 7 is that Harling's death is clearly meant to be a fakeout.>entire rescue team dies before getting to Harling>black guy calls in and claims to be his secret service agent and he's the only survivor >finds a transport that's empty but already running and ready for takeoff>makes a remark about Harling being a shit pilot>dies from a strafe and Harling takes control>instantly 180s the craft and flies toward the space elevator>AWACS calls him twice and it's connected but both times his portrait pops up with "....." and static noise >when you shoot at him, the game uses a cutaway to imply that the missile came from Trigger, and much later says that it was a drone using whatever plane Trigger was flying for a deliberate falseflag, seemingly so Erusea could blame Osea for killing Harling, but visually the cutscene would be identical if it actually was Trigger>one of your own squad mates says "Trigger was closest" and despite knowing where you were neither he nor anyone else on site had noticed that the squads had apparently grown an extra plane at some point >the idea of Harling's Mirror later in the game is about whether he was trying to destroy the space elevator because it caused conflict (per the princess) or flew in to protect it from an oncoming missile (per Avril), and the game presents the latter as correct because Harling wanted harmony and shit, but this makes 0 sense because the only missile fired at the time of Harling's death was from a drone targeting him, and Harling's death being caused by a missile shot at him is the entire point of the drone trick>earlier in the same mission there's a whole cutscene showing drones swarming to bodyblock missiles Osea fires at the space elevator and only one gets through, Osea wanting to destroy the space elevator is never mentioned again, Gargoyle Squad is never mentioned againIt triggers the fuck out of me because there's so much setup for a deleted plot point
>>583668461Rosa actually got to experience the war of her own making firsthand and graduated with a PTSD, no shit she's changing her opinion.
>>583668461>The ISEV is like IranWhat the honest to god fuckIs there lead in the air or something
>>583668625*Oured
>>583668565They fucking hid their planes underground. HOW? WHAT IS IT WITH STRANGEREAL AND PLANES???
>>583668389the level of overanalysis is what makes it cringe honestly, its just a thinly veiled attempt to stay relevant>>583668469I personally only remember comona, agnus dei/megalith, and the fact that stonehenge was obviously adapted for AC7, but people are nuts to think any of the old games hold a candle to 7/8 and their ability to incorporate long/shortform music with gameplay moments
>>583668669That's what I said. The world.
>>583668721Nigga have you seen their tunnelsThey're built for planes first
>>583668625>over protecting a phoneI think people would be slightly miffed at the corporation nuking multiple cities all over the world with impunity
>>583668727>3:28 AM on the clock>post made at 3:28 AM my timespoopy
>>583668461You are impressively fucking retarded
>>583668772go to bed anon
>>583668593Would they have believed her and would Enso have taken that lying down?
>>583668727Anon.....the formula is literally the same for all of them. The only thing that improved overtime was the voice acting and the graphics.The gameplay differences are minor at best
>>583668764In Strangereal, after a certain size, you are forced by law to build the tunnel large enough that a fighter jet can be hidden inside it.
>>583668565>>583668502Bro, the SECOND I heard those fucknuggets on the radio I went "oh fuck no" in my head. Putting clinically insane people in Phantoms really gives you that raw Vietnam War aura.
>>583668461I feel like you lack a lot of understanding on Usean conflicts, who has involved themselves in it and how the Princess was a puppet of a retaliation because of these conflicts and that now she wants to make a difference herself, for the people, free of foreign intervention and petty revenge and WMD's hanging overhead. Osea causing problems for Usea goes back way further than AC7, the Princess of Erusea just gets caught up in it all in 7. If you want to point the finger at anyone, Osea is right there, despite Harling's altruistic ideas.
>>583668904Is F4 is Alicorn for aerial combat?
>>583668625Did you forget enso hailing the whole world with the remaining tonitrus spears? It was never just about the phone
My thoughts on AC8 so far, I'm only on mission 8>some of the best gameplay in the whole series>possibly the blandest and lamest cast of characters in the whole series>why do I hear voices this is stupid9/10 it's decent
>>583668857Hell, they have dams you can fly planes throughIf you told me there was an ancient conspiracy of engineers who worked to ensure everyone was building giant tunnels in everything everywhere, I might believe you>>583668950It's the GleipnirTheir captains even do the same "use my death for a better firing angle" maneuver
>>583668830fine but you guys better post some nice webms for me to look at in the morning
>>583668904They fucking showed up uninvited too. Also is AC8 the entry with the most schizo ratio on the cast?
>>583665974I think before the final charge it says something like>ram is go
Just started online mod and is every match going to have morgans...while I score 10k on my pity F4E?
>>583669027>GleipnirWell the captain is loco, but the rest of the crew seems to want to live.
>>583668979Why would they even need the phone if they already know Enso did it? Why not lynch every person who works for Enso
In my country every person will be allowed to get a loan so they could purchase their dream plane. In my country every person will be able allowed behind a stick, regardless of their capacities or mental issues.
SOTOA SUPERPOWER BY 2030!
>>583668838how the fuck does your post have any bearing on me saying "theyve gotten better at using music"
>>583669093Which one is more crazy, > Gleipnir captain who wanted to crash the airship just to get a better firing angle> Balios captain literally cooking himself and his crew into kebab just to cool the railguns faster
What actual flight innovation could they introduce in the future? AC8 adds nothing new like highG or PSM
>>583669050The entirety of Sotoa makes it impossible for it not to beThey make Belka look reasonable>>583669121Evidence>>583669134This is every Strangereal politician's platformYou need to promise a cool superweapon too
Reminder for multirole players: if we lose an S rank because you decided to go steal the attacker's lunch it's YOUR FAULT we lost
>>583668469>>583668727Unsung War remains the greatest piece of music in all of Ace CombatShame it's wasted on the lamest final mission Zero comes close
>>583669240>lamest final missiondude, you're destroying a space satellite
>>583669193realistic yaw
Here's an idea for an AC game. Make it like MGS Peace Walker. Like you've got a story mode, alright.But then there are some side-ops.And then you have to manage your crew, upgrade your plane park etc.Hire better pilots through connections as you build your rep. Maybe even build your own supergigaweaponYou get the idea.
>>583669189Honestly as crazy as Torres and his goons are, I'd have to give this one to Gleipnir guy, dude is acting like we killed his dog or something to go that far just to kill us
>>583669168Because if you think Daredevil and SongOfWings are at a different class than Zero, Megalith, or Unsung War in their appearance and mix of gameplay, then you are delusional.Okay maybe Unsung War didn't fit as well
>>583669278You're shooting at basically a static target while some dudes sperg out over coms and then kill themselves and the only threat is bits of satellite coming at you
>Yurts on a patch of grass on a MegafloatWhat did Sotoa mean by this? Isn't this the equivalent of pitching up a tent in your backyard?
>>583669410It's a victory lap, you numpty
>>583669452More like having an RV in your backyard.
Here's an idea for an AC game:Missions can be failed, and instead of having to try again, failing a mission leads to a different next mission. And if you keep failing, or you fail certain key missions, your country can lose the war even if you beat the final boss or whatever. The game has a number of good endings and bad endings.
>>583669452They're LARPersThey probably had horses on that Megafloat (you monster)
>>583669452They probably held the weekly council meeting and took a picture there, to show the country they remember their le roots
>>583669452Probably for officers and other VIPs to socialize, I think they said the actual residential blocks are down below
>>583669240Liberation of Gracemeriago dance with the angels if you don't like it, shoutout to that one Emmerian on DD's livestream also shoutout to Estovakia not getting a tonitrus spear cause theres nothing of value left
>>583669532Losing to access content is pretty lame in practiceIt's the curse of hentai games
>>583669360magic spear is probably an all time classic for>repetitive long form mission>song of wingsis perfect levels of corny>zerois untopped, especially for its timebut you cant tell me a comona beats the starry-eyed theming of star-boundAlso im a sucker for corny, and only in ace combat, and ace combat 8 has ALOT of corny, which only it knows how to pull off, but even ill say AC5's "kumbaya" moment still has yet to be bested between 5, 7 and 8
>>583669532That's ACX
ACO miraculously receives a new content update>monkey's pawIt's Gleipnir
>>583669532These devs are absolutely not putting so much works into content the avarage player will not see majority ofThe alternative dialogues we already have are a high ask
>>583669341Torres only sunk his ship to get a better angle. Balios is Land Battleship 2, where you can hear words like>157°C in the ship!meaning everyone inside is literally cooked to death. And then there's the special dialogue if you took too long
>>583669642No it's not
>>583669607>EstovakiaPretty sure they got spear'd too
>>583669646Why would that be a monkey pawI want to fight Gleipnir
>>583669646The Gleipnir was fucking cool, you take that back. Turning your giant plane UPSIDE DOWN SO YOU CAN USE THE SHOCKWAVE CANNON AT THE SKY is one of the coolest superweapon moves in the series.XB-0 is the lame giant blimp that does nothing.
>>583669654Why not? The Fromsoft guy said he was happy putting a gorillion things in Elden Ring that the average player would never see, and it's fine
>>583669452they're desperately trying to claw back tradition in the face of modernity but falling into the trap of simulacrum
>>583669646That's not a monkey paw.A monkey paw would be Assault Horizon's helicopter levels
Cipher=Trigger>>Blaze>>>>Mobius>the rest
Okay so if Tasha doesn't shoot at shit, will she use ESM and ECM if I give her an electronic warfare plane?
>take A-6 on co-op assault>mandatory fighter section for LAAMers to pad score>end up flying wing-to-wing with the other team's equally useless feeling A-10 as we wait for the next mission updateAbsolutely max comfy
>>583669646Hresvelgr would be the boring pick
>>583669816Give us upgraded Espada and then maybe I can tolerate it
>>583669858We didn't even get a proper Strigon team for Chandelier, what makes you think we're gonna get Espada
>>583669802Yes, but they're pretty shit at EW management, they burn through all their charges as soon as you hit the button.
>>583669858That would make for a decent ScrambleIt's still an ace squadron fight but there's a giant air fortress acting more like terrain in the middle of it
>>583669681Nothing there worth hitting, Estovakia already bombarded to death my the asteroid fragments and then self imploding vs Chadmerians
>>583669646Gleipnir is peak raid material bro what are you on about
>>583669892We'll (hopefully) get a Strigon mid-sortie update if they go the Infinity route and add things to the higher level raids. Like when the Butterfly Master used to show up.
>>583655537>How fucked up are they now?Probably they are pretty fucked up given that there are regions whose entire economy hinges on merc work Armored Core 4 style, and the fact that the Sotoans don't even bother invading them.
>>583669961a pity hit on Emmeria so the Stovies don't feel like they're the loser?
they've got to bring back Emmeria for 9, it's the only Strangereal country worth being patriotic for
>>583670035I will fight for Aurelia and their right to fuck off for the summer
>>583669802yes, but if you give any of your squaddies an ew plane you need to immediately toggle off spw otherwise they'll just spam their charges off cooldown and empty them out immediately
Any Ace Combat songs about fading?
>>583670023Honestly that hit on Emmeria is so far East, its probably a majority Stovie refugee city anyway, they just can't catch a break haha>>583670035Incredibly based
For 9, I really hope Mitsubishi gets off their high horse and give PA the Jap jet licenses.Can introduce a new archipelago in Strangereal to finally add asians
>>583670131
>>583670131Blurry
>>583670162Nagase and Huxian too white for you?The lovely French karsts of Yinshi Valley?
>>583670259I just wanna bomb Strangereal notIndians man
>>583670131Slovakians will SAVE ace combat
The Fullback definitely carried my Attacker only + No DMG campaign run
>>583670162Eruseans have Vietnamese among their ranks. One of them high enough to be a VIP target for Trigger
>>583670302>SlovakiansEslovakians.
>>583669760 ED's fundamental design requires there to be too much content for one avarage player to experince. The game would not be what it is, and sell what it did, without it. And it makes so much fucking money they just give him aritstic leewayOutside of optimal circustances, its hard to justify putting years of workload into something a player might not see, instead of a linear game the player will see all ofThey're nothing fundemntal in the AC experience that requires branching, so it's just not worth it. A single playthrough would be 12 missions long, and not everyone would go back for seconds. You might enjoy it more, but its hard to justify in the design meeting
>>583670301Don't introduce Indians to Strangereal at all, they don't need that
>>583670329how do you deal with Wax?
>>583670339Yeah well they should stop being faggots and stop worrying about whether it's worth the investment and just fucking do it because it's cool and I want it
>>583670543word
>>583656620>mom, I am banging this dude mumbling to himself
>>583670479Spammed HCAA + Missles + Guns to the first one until i managed to leave it with only one engine, then i focused the other one.Gave all my teammates the Morgan, on the second one i activated their special weapons and it basically got nuked out of the air.Then i went back to the already damage first one and launched everything i had alongside the allies on the last engineSince i already did the all S on ACE clear i didn't care about the S, but managed to get it as wellYou still have like 3 or 4 windows of attack tho
Are these aggregated scores accurate, chat?>4 is that high>people love it>zero is the lowest rated>people love it even more
>>583670131Whenever someone uses the word 'fading'that dramatic Cars 3 trailer with the crashing and rolling Lightning McQueen pops into my head.
>>583671075>Assault Horizon higher than ZeroAmerica tax really pulling all the weights here
>>583671387Zero rated poorly because it was a PS2 exclusive in fucking 2006 that was shorter than AC5 and didn't really introduce any new mechanics.
>>583671075So is this why zerofags are so aggressive against 5fags?
>>583667072Well the shit Enso armed them with probably gave them the confidence to start the war with the FCU. Without Spears or land battleships i think they would have probably simply collapsed into a tribal civil war over who gets the last grasslands
>>583671075X is better than every other game except 0, 5 and 8metacritic more like metashittaste
>>583671075Kinda interesting to see the franchise really didn't sell very well until AC7, I was under the impression AC6 was a popular enough game but 700,000 units shipped says otherwise
I saw a clip about mission 15 where while i dont really know all of the context or anything... why the heck did the player managed to crash into something while flying under a huge bomber that was PSMing?
>>583672257dude, at least watch the game availability and average PS2 game sales, XBOX exclusive pretty must sealed 6's fate
What the fuck happened to FCAS?
>>583672357>Fuscus does a Kulbit maneuver at 2100kts>no one says anythingEx-fucking-scuse me, what the actual FUCK did I just witness?
>>583672585Superior Sotoan Engineering
>>583671980Anon you replied to is wrong, Enso was already funding and pushing for Sotoa's westward push long before conflict, it was initially done under the guise of helping eastern Useans who didn't get benefits from the space elevator and saw a brain drain go westwards. It was all Enso's plan from the beginning and the Sotoan warlords were too stupid to realise they were being a puppet of Enso's algorithm to formulate a problem that Enso themselves would solve to then place themselves at the top of the world.The funny thing is that this whole discussion about the game shows how well Enso has the player believing the bullshit too, it effectively would've been global subjugation which is apocalyptic as well. Aces at war is a good read btw.
>>583672450>what if we took an F-22 and smooshed it then stretched it outUgly creature.
>>5836722572 million was a great number for an AA console exclusive franchise in those days. Metal Gear Solid 2, a big AAA game, released the same year as AC4 and that sold 7 million, and that was an outstanding success.
>>583672603*Enso
>RAILGUN WARNING>RAILGUN WARNING>RAILGUN WARNING
I have done mission 15 twice and have not seen them do anything other than fly in a straight line and make simple turns.
Need Heartbreak One emblem/livery STAT.
>>583672585its those adler wings, clearly belkan magic
>>583672807same, then again I can't see shit with all the radioactive jammer screen, clouds and missile clutter, bro probably pulled a quick one in the clouds
Why does zero have no checkpoints, this fucking sucks
>>583672931It was a different time...
>>583672931Emulators have save states
>>583672257Being a 360 exclusive guaranteed sales would be much worse than previous gamesYou can't take a classic Playstation IP to Xbox and expect great sales back in that era, but I guess microsoft gave them a lot of money for it
>>583672931it's not that bad
>>583672931Because it's set in 1995 and they hadn't been invented yet
>>583672931because none of the missions are long enough that replaying them is a pain in the ass
I've come to admit I crashed in the megafloat reactor segment like 8 times before finally getting it
>>583673189It's easier if you fly backwards
finally playing X and after hearing that much about the Gleipnir I figured it'd be around longer
>>583668648>>when you shoot at him, the game uses a cutaway to imply that the missile came from Trigger, and much later says that it was a drone using whatever plane Trigger was flying for a deliberate falseflag, seemingly so Erusea could blame Osea for killing Harling, but visually the cutscene would be identical if it actually was Trigger>>one of your own squad mates says "Trigger was closest" and despite knowing where you were neither he nor anyone else on site had noticed that the squads had apparently grown an extra plane at some pointSo if you played with cut content, the VA who says it was Trigger is actually a guy named Georg who confesses during Daredevil to be the one to kill Harling. He was picked up on Tyler Island along with Avril and co.https://acecombat.wiki.gg/wiki/Georg
>>583673189It's set up poorly, to be fair. The vertical beams are way too thin to notice immediately and the lip on the center circle is basically invisible.
any of these worth investing in?
>>583673290It comes back as a blue volcano in one variant of the final mission
>>583673290I think being a threat for 2 arc is good enough
>>583673417no
>>583673821If Jenkins was a woman the very first scene of 8 would be Rex making use of her buoyancy
>>583673417if you want the optimised metanigger invesment plan here it is : >SU34/F15E - very good ground attackers for warfare/alicorn, personally prefer UGBLs lower cd>MIG31- cheap laamboat that also as QAAMs for whatever reason in case people get aggressive>Barricader : Best electronic with good missile buff unlocks>Felon/Game/f22 all seem equally good with game being better a cheesing kills with SASMs>Rafel M if you want to be a range nigger for both air AND ground
<< Confirmed launch of submarine-based thread >>>>583674214>>583674214>>583674214>>583674214
>>583672585>KulbitThose fuckers literally dove into the sea and rose back up in my playthrough and nobody acknowledged that Sotoans have submarine planes apparently.
>>583673189>>583673312I crashed twice before getting it. I didnt realise the core was right there, I thought we had tobdive down and go further underground from where the core was to get to it. Was expecting a longer tunnel after 7.
>>583666005Yes I was saying in additionWhat is the go to 6aam bus for arsenal bird killers?
>>583672257At least it's not as bad as Armored Core was. That series never saw a million sales until AC6.
>>583665952Literally just Yay and Nay
>>583668593la chanteuse better have been working behind the scenes while wings was returning from cima island and blowing up temu alicorn
>>583669534how do i break it to umamusume...
