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What the fuck is going on

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Can't see shit at night.

>>583674412
turn off bloom

>>583674214
What would Torres think of the land battleships?

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Nuggets? Deleted.

bring back the old plane unlock system where you just randomly get new plens after beating missions
it felt nicer than looking at this tree thing and having to plan and budget a path to get the plane you want

>>583674360
The ultimate super weapon
THE SUN

So what do these corporate vendors at the lobby do? Le flavour? Future content?

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lol

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Is Kate tall or is D.D a manlet?

What's the magic secret that lets aurelia get the good shit while usea is still using legacy hornets? Why are PA so afraid of coffin planes?

Bring back 5's plen tree where you need to fill a kill gauge just to be judged worthy to get F-4G

>>583673953
Guess I'm stuck with my lv10 f2 / f16 for a looooooong time

Is there such thing as being TOO cringe for normies? Maybe that's what AC is.

>>583674645
F14D is cheap to upgrade for a pretty good early LAAMboat as well

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>>583674437
he would have loved them

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>aren't you Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?

>>583674645
I wouldn't spend anything until you unlock all the planes desu. You get a lot out of a level 20, but it costs so much you might as well save it for the planes that actually matter.

>>583674623
Yes

>>583674640
Unironically yes. Gives you 300% more replayability

>>583674437
land submarine, drives right into the ocean and over the ocean floor, comfy when you want to stay underwater for over a year. Emerge in oured bay and flatten the city beneath your threads. Perfection

>>583674623
yes

>>583674437
There's nothing beautiful or elegant about auto targeting guns.

is there any reason not to use the auto firing MG part on difficulties without limited mg ammo

>>583674958
Well for one, it doesn't work at all

>>583674640
Fuck kill rate and fuck you

>>583674710
>I speak jive

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>>583674710

>Separatists? More like traitors wagging their tails for Sotoa.
He says this in both M1 and M14. Like it's the same exact voice line.

>>583675225
>Wait, what?!

>>583675225
I didn't pay attention during my JP VO playthrough to see if it's also the same line in the JP script.
I wonder.

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imagine finding out your fucktarded military sent every last pilot they had, 1,000 strong, to take out three fucking planes, and lost, and lost their top ace, and lost their top ace of the last war, and made sure you basically have no air force or navy and you'll be forced to live in a shitty desert, all because your country refused to surrender repeatedly
like even belkans aren't that stupid, god damn

>>583675225
Wasn't Tasha's long "No...!" right before Kate returns in M28 also used more than once or am I tripping

>>583674214
PICTURE IT JOKER. ONE MILLION SOTOAN LIVES!

>Ace 79/100
Dear lord release me from this hell

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>>583674214
B-bros??

>>583675718
slowpoke-sama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_submarine_I-401

>>583674710
Is this EnsoAI?

Which plane should be the 6AAM for fucking up Arsenal Birds?

>>583676112
>fucking up Arsenal Birds?
Drop bombs on its wings, works way better.

>>583675913
I went through a rabbithole and apparently Japan teching up to nuclear subs. JP twitter is Torresposting atm.

>>583676173
Fuck you I'm getting an SU-33 instead of the 35

>>583674694
I would kill for a prequel to 4 where you play as an Erusean squadron at the beginning of the Continental War and have the Tanager be a recurring ally unit ala Marigold. I've always wondered what Torres was like pre-Alicorn

>>583676317
Take your time kek

>>583676173
Wonder if we'll get FABs in a later DLC plane.

Are the flanker D RKTs good for boss DPS bursting? Like chandelier core

>>583676173
no it doesn't, this game is using some dumbass class system which mean you need fighters to do maximum damage and your bars will directly affect your damage output.

Now do you actually need a specialised killer for arsenal bird?
Lmao no, this shit is the easiest sortie by far, just slow down and dump your entire MG and missiles and it will die

>>583676374
Continental war Eruseans were pretty nakedly belligerant fascists, I can't really see ACES making a game where you're on that side

>>583676505
I wasted my entire MG payload and most of my missiles taking it down because 3/4ths of my team was just shooting the chassis instead of aiming for the actual targets.
We won, I killed it. I was in a Prowler.

>SW Racer came out
AC Racing game doko? Just like AC had Formula Front

>>583676505
Is it confirmed what the class affects? I felt the MSL difference, bout what about SPW and guns?

>>583676505
F-15J is a fighter and it has UGBs.

>>583676505
>no it doesn't
Yes it does. The damage of bombs dramatically out-classes all missiles.

>>583676609
they really should've put in some sort of obstacle course into online, they already have the rings to fly through in the tutorial I can't imagine it would've been too hard to make

>>583676632
>>583676634
SP bars and plane bars absolutely affect damage.
Using the same SP on a multirole will do significantly less damage.
And increasing bars enough will help you reach oneshot breakpoints like being able to single LAAM blackwidows and such

>>583676676
There's a lot they should've done for online

>>583676451
I can get the 33 RIGHT NOW but I need to grind moar for the 35

>>583676572
I mean, there was that concept for a "Young Yellows" game so I don't think it's far fetched desu

>>583676676
Can't you mod it? UE5 should be ez mode to mod.

>>583676729
You say that as if it matters. You get the same combat XP, the same pilot XP, and Zoll differences are barely noticeable. The sin here is having 'classes' at all, but gameplay wise they change nothing. If people didn't say it I bet 99% of players wouldn't even notice a difference.

>>583676729
Which fighters use 6aam?

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>>583676843
>>583676676
It also doesn't need to be online. Just mod IRL canyon into the game and do timed canyon runs. And people would just form a league on twitter and youtube.

>>583676745
Or not done it at all
It would be nice to have the online fixed but honestly they should do DLC missions for SP and move on to the next one

>>583676846
consistanly winning warfare because you're getting 150k while the retarded fighter killing ground targets is in the low 40s ramps up your zoll gains quite a bit and being able to queu into sorties knowing you can solo it yourself in case you get a team of bots is huge qol

>No Farbanti sunken city race
>No Space Elevator tunnel race
>No Avalon canyon run race

>>583676916
Super Flanker and Eurofighter.

>>583676846
>losing doesn't matter
>getting less rewards from emerSorties due to lacking dps doesn't matter
>whoever my wife sleeps with doesn't matter

>>583677046
Typhoon is 4aam
Su-35S is multirole

>>583676916
none as far as i know, best you get is 4AAM on f22 or typhoon.

If you mainly want the best possible DPS for arsenal bird then the answer is a bit different tho, Barricader or growler will not only spam missiles fast as fuck but you also buff your entire team

>>583677198
Does a f22 do more 4aam dmg than typhoon 4aam?
Does typhoon 4aam do more than flanker because
>lol multirole

>>583677285
I don't think anyone knows for sure, by the numbers yet; it's all vibe based conclusions

>>583677285
On paper it should since higher bars and f22 also gets a CD reduction skill on 4AAMs and missile buffs.

Keep in mind that while the class buffs are a thing i don't think there's any math autists that did real data on it yet

>>583674623
Yes
Kate is actually tall as fuck, she's roughly the height of the male mechanics on the plane selection screen

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>JP Cope

So if Ace Combat 7 is 4
Ace Combat 8 is 5

Than that must means if we ever get around to 0, god forbid we live that long. We’re getting the Sotoan / Yuktobanian war that spoofs 0… right?

>>583677618
I don’t have the energy to ms paint it right now but ACE COMBAT 8 accompanied by an image of

>sam hyde as the ghost of kiev
>tom cruise from top gun.
>will smith from Independence Day
>ryan gosling in a fighter jet
>marin kitagawa with tactical gear on
>samus Aran with black hair
>deborah Wilson
>himari from blue archive
>raidou kuzonoha

>>583678002


Oh also Mr beast with smart glasses, and a super imposed image of BOEING, and Amazon somewhere on there.

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I love watching jpeg japanese old women learn to fly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXRF135aWs
Bros, are we orchestra music?

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LET ME PLAYYYYYYYYYY

>>583678572
if anything 8 has started moving away from orchestra a bit

WHERE NON-DENUVO CRACK

What's the gun range in 8? Is it PW guns?

>>583678334
Chiha isn't even 30 though???
That aside, it's really funny watching her struggle with the controls. It's nice seeing her improve

>>583678334
I will never understand the appeal of streamers. Why would I watch someone play instead of playing it myself? At least if it was a friend of mine playing I could understand, since we would most likely be talking over comms or something

I wish they'd at least try to make the game SOMEWHAT close to what real air to air combat is like. There's 0 BVR and it's just sad :(

>>583678926
vicarious enjoyment

>>583678938
>I wish I could not see enemies and they couldn't see me
You've mistaken what the sad part is

>>583678926
The appeal of streamers isn't the game, but the person streaming. This really isn't that hard to understand.

>>583678938
why would you want to fundamentally change the formula of a game that clearly works

>>583678708
Linux.

>>583678926
Have you ever gotten a friend to play a game you really liked, but you already no lifed it but wanted to see how they react to a scenario? That’s the appeal of streaming. That and like sometimes you learn new shit from watching people who do know how a game works.


That and there’s genuinely like some games I don’t want to touch but I’ll scope someone else playing it, like observation duty types for example.

I got some people trying to ask me to do MP with them. I know that they are particularly bloodthirsty dogfighting series veterans. Currently I play on like Veteran difficulty and am pretty familiar with Ace Combat in general, I wonder if I'd just be a burden or not even if I am assuming I would just be used as live bait while doing ground strikes in an Phantom

>>583679101
Wouldn't need to fundamentally change it.
Give missiles a speed boost when you're fast and high and allow longer range lock on for fox3 stuff. Simple as that.

>>583678926
same reason people post anonymously on a forum like 4chan. it's for lonely fags that are desperate for socialization like most normal people are but are too awkward to do it with real people

>>583679181
Just volunteer to be the ESM bitch, you'll be very popular

>>583678938
NO. BVR is gay boring bullshit. war thunder and NO are right there. LAAMs are enough already, i specifically play ace combat because i want to dogfight in a jet. if you want to play radar jockey go play nuclear option

>>583679029
>>583679171
I don't know that person, why would I care its my point. She isn't family/friend or whatever, it's a random person on the net

>>583679359
You don't watch movies?
They can be entertaining.

>>583679181
As long as you're killing things you're contributing
Maybe pay attention to the map and focus on doing the parts they're not focusing on, maps like Waiapolo can be alright for that
You probably don't want to do Warfare though, because you'll definitely be playing as bait if the enemy team decides to go after you

Watching the preview shit and the gameplay they have looping on the big screen and I get the impression that the devs vastly underestimated the kind of autists that would be playing Online when making these missions

>>583676846
I get ~1700 zoll for a bad match and ~3200 for a good one, that's nearly double the gains.

>>583677089
>I think of everything in relation to cuckoldry
weird trait

>>583679359
I would question if you’re autistic but you’re in an ace combat thread. Very well, carry on.

>>583679428
>Maybe pay attention to the map and focus on doing the parts they're not focusing on, maps like Waiapolo can be alright for that
Yeah except that doesn't work in practice lmao. Nigger is going to end matches under 5,000 points every time

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I'm not a boomer. Does F14 really have fucking missiles bolted to the centre of the fuselage like that?

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>>583679359
She makes cute noises while looking at F-14. What more do you want?

>>583679431
idk the one preview i saw on the big screen was a deathmatch where we followed a Rafale around while he hid low behind mountains and slung LAAMs across the map and ran away anytime someone tried to fight him kek. seemed pretty realistic to me

>>583679552
5k can be the difference between a win and a loss
It's not ideal but he should still play if he wants to, not that it excuses PA's dogshit balancing

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>>583679590
Yeah. I'm not knowledgeable enough to judge the accuracy of the in-game portrayal though.

>>583679595
damn game looks like shit on console wtf

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>>583679590
It's called a Semi-Recessed Hardpoint, they're on quite a few aircraft. It's better for aerodynamics

>>583679431
I wonder how much footage is there for it exactly
mp4 files dont do the game's file size any favours

>>583679787
she's playing on pc. something set her settings all the way to lowest and she didn't change it

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>>583679590
Pretty much the same on all planes that have fuselage hardpoints

>>583679831
I think it's just a single Assault and Warfare match. Pretty sure they said it was supposed to be streaming ongoing matches but, you know-

There's so much unfinished shit in online that I'm a little hopeful they'll be patching it because holy shit I am genuinely upset that it turned out to be such a clownshow. Straight up more miserable than War Thunder right now

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>>583679181
I think you’ll be fine. I emulated the holy trinity, 7 and played Project Wingman, and I still consistently score second place because I choose to bomb stationary targets in an F-18C rather than force myself to do player dogfights. Team balancing in this game is kind of dog water but you’re not forced to do pure dogfight pvp unless it’s like Comona on warfare rotation or something. Even so, there’s plenty of npc targets to fight too. Just expect to have a kick me sign if you do a bit too well, but if that ever happens, dodging people for 5 mins straight is still credit to team because now everyone else can actually shoot down stuff just fine.

Also I run into more war thunder players online than I do Ace combat players and I can tell because war thunder players have a very particular type of playstyle and it shows when they do play.

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>>583679814
Here's some on a Phantom, see the groves in the belly? That's where Sparrows would sit

Buddies,

Since the whole squadron system is limited and fucking ass, I've decided to make a discord where we can share Emergency Sorties and all that. Would anyone be interested in joining that?

>>583679985
I only ever played propeller tier War Thunder, how do those players play?

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>>583679989
Tornado

>>583680070
no

>>583676609
Ridge Racer where it's explicitly set in Strangereal when?

>>583679980
there's definitely more than that cuz i saw a deathmatch match previewed on it once

>>583680070
You could probably just post them here

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>>583677618
Jesus CHRIST Ray really lucked out

>>583680101
this image angers me

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>>583680367

>>583680168
Online Mode event if it was good

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how many crewmen?

>>583680656
just me

>>583680546
I hate that we can't remove the gun pod from our F35

>play Scramble a total of 3 times
>0/3
is this mode even in the game?

unsymmetrical planes needs to die

>>583680090
It’s hard to describe, and more of a feeling.

But your average ace combat player flies far more suicidal than your average war thunder player, and is more likely to engage in jousting and less on itano circus antics if that makes any sense.

if you think about it the entire plot of 8 is Yuktobania's fault for not finishing the job

>>583680719
it's an internal cannon. why would it be removable

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>>583680813
Almost all planes have some sort of asymmetry.

Oh fug I closed the game before it saved and now I have to do 28 again.

>first ace run
>notice the attacker only medal
>funny idea
>first carrier mission, A6 is the only eligible craft

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>>583680903

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heh

>>583680885
F35C doesnt have an internal cannon, hence it carries the peanus gunpod

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shame AC doesn't represent one of the more unique features of the Felon and give it some limited DIRCM ability. it should be able to shoot down a couple standard missiles on its own, would make it more unique compared to the F-22

>>583680856
Wrong, everything goes back to Osea being the root cause in every game, don't believe Osean propaganda trying to say everything across all of history is Belka's fault as well.

>>583680821
Ace combat kinda lulls you into the joust mindset, he'll Pixy, probably the most famous boss of the series requires a joust to beat, while warthunder is you vs enemy vs Gaijin programing, which has 100% of something really wacky happening, and since it tries to be BVR and most hits are kills people tend to keep a safe distance. God damm those fuckers make 100x of what aces does and can't keep a game bug free for shit

>Roll a 2v2 Assault
>Oh boy this'll actually be fu-
>Giga niggers on the other team spend the entire game just following me and my ally denying kills
>They """win""" but we don't S rank
I fucking hate this playerbase

>>583680885
Looks pretty fucking external to me. Only F35A gets an internal one and we don't have that in game.

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Did the "Tasha is going to die" pre-release schizo kill himself?

I just noticed, is the PLSL just gone?

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>>583681567
he's biding his time, lurking beneath the waters...
...like some kinda SUBMARINE...

>>583681567
In fairness to him the previews did make it seem like there would be branching paths depending on what happens, including wingmen deaths.

Or maybe I'm just having a schizo moment

>>583681567
DLC missions will have her dead, trust the plan...

>>583681567
Hopefully

>shadow f-14s spawn in front of me and generously fly in a straight line so i kill four instantly
>TRANSPORT HIT TRANSPORT HIT TRANSPORT HIT IT'S DEAD YOU LOSE
>what the fuck
>try again, kill some of them then turn to defend the transport
>no enemies nearby but it still gets hit by nothing multiple times in a row and then dies
Okay fine I'm not allowed to kill them fine. But next time please tell me that ahead of time instead of punishing me for killing the enemy right in front of me. You fuck.

>>583681203
I’ve spooked a few players by doing Kulbit in the F18C. I play in first person mode so I cant follow up by gunning them down properly, but it does keep a lot of aggressive pilots on their toes when I do it. Doing dumb shit like that, or getting immediately mugged by some asshole with QAAM’s is something you can immediately clock an AC vet on doing, and less from a War Thunder player.

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It took me a few days longer, but I finally finished the campaign (there's a good fix for crashes around now thankfull).
You notice they actually had money this time and it can feel a little too movie-ish and Western at times. Overall I think it's a great game however, from a story, mission design and gameplay standpoint. I like the move towards more weighty aircraft too.
There's somewhat of a dry spell in the middle from mission 12 to 16/17, but it's definitely not AC5 bad in that regard. Practically all missions from 18 onwards are great or borderline all-timers in exchange. The final mission was kind of a letdown unfortunately, but I guess they just had to tie up those loose ends.
More focus on your squadmates and giving them arcs was a great decision. Overall I've found all of them likeable. The supporting cast is decent too.
Coster's arc unfortunately kind of ends after mission 8 and he feels very "just there" for most of the game, even when Baxter makes him your number 2 and he has his little amped up moment in mission 27. Baxter dying was too predictable, although both his and Kate's presumed death make the game much more personal. I love how you don't feel invincible as a squad and how everyone has their personal crisis to work through. (You) aren't exempt either. I didn't think they'd go as far as implying suicide by missile from survivor's guilt and depression though.
I think my personal ranking of AC games I've played is 4>0=8>5=6 now.

Questions:
>It's certain Enso sabotaged the tanker drones in mission 13, but why didn't they blow up earlier? Is this just where they decided to kill the Wings program?
>How does the Tonitrus shoot at Rio Bajo? I thought it's limited to the Rainband and the area east of it.

>>583680313
Yeah I'm writing a KateXRex fanfic already.

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Rex cant even jack off in peace

>>583682795
WOO WOO GHOST BLOWJOB

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>All shadows with Slavic/Central Asian sound names are regular people
>All shadows whose description involves them being high ranking or part of royalty has them with Turkish names

>>583682712
I think the explanation for Rainband is that the spear can hit static targets anywhere, but in the Rainband it has live laser tracking to also hit ships
Why they dont spear the fish cannery base instead of sending a battleship there? Fuck you that's why

>>583682795
It's kinda weird how we had this schizo vision once and then that's it.

>>583683095
>Why they dont spear the fish cannery base instead of sending a battleship there? Fuck you that's why
Limited ammo and the Land Battleship could do the job fine

>>583682712
>>583683095
The sattelite needs to orbit arround where the target is supposedly so they can't just shoot anywhere thet want

>>583682970
Cool detail, honestly. We know that Sotoa has an internal problem with tribal backgrounds dictating prestige.

>>583682970
First country with ethnic tensions/imbalance?

Damn took me forever to beat shadow 99/100 on veteran

>>583682712
Regarding the incident with the two drone tankers, it may be that the EO wanted someone, Rex + Baxter or otherwise, to escort the rebel transport through FCU separatist-controlled airspace and ensure its safe landing. It is revealed in the cutscene before M28 that the transport carried the X-40 Nightmare, of which the packaging was designed to survive the explosion. It was a delivery to Tewy. That's why she was in the area at all. The reason why it was placed in a C-130 sold to a rebel group is to obfuscate the Enso Order's involvement. Whether or not the EO bet on Rex and Baxter being there, and their survival via ejection, I'm not sure about. There's contrivance, yes, but you know how it goes.

>>583675718
DON'T YOU SEE?

>>583682712
either Ray is a schizo with survivors guilt, Cope purposely killed himself because he was tired of having to fight his own native people, or Cope is actually a sublimation.

>>583682795
I more wonder how embarassing it is when Rex inevitably ends up with constipation due to eating expired MREs or not getting enough nutrients due to being undersupplied. Then Rex spends quite a long time in the latrine while Cope muses about it

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i don't think i'm gonna get these last medals. there are so many cutscenes to skip in this game it's kind of crazy they want you to do it like 5 times

>>583675718
Don't forget the torpedoes this time

>>583683474
Oh so that's what that recording was about
Who's the Bearded Guy the rebels kept raving on about?

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>>583682970
>main sotoan villain is literally named Tewi
>is a bitch

>>583683837
Dunno! Maybe I didn't pay attention enough to make the [clear] connection.

>>583683474
It must have been components for the X-40 or something, there's no way that fat fuck would fit inside a C-130, even in pieces.

>>583679264
>healslutting has officially reached Ace Combat

>>583683884
I had the "main villain is named tewi and symbolizes the moon" line of thought
Genuinely wondering if there is some correlation in the name creation, i don't know moonrunes (heh) enough to speak on it.

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>>583684073
>Her full name is Tewi Inaba (因幡てゐ). Unlike Reisen Udongein Inaba, the "Inaba" in Tewi's name is written using kanji which refer to the Inaba Province (因幡国 Inaba no Kuni) in historical Japan. Additionally, the legend of the "White Rabbit of Inaba" (因幡の白兎 Inaba no Shirousagi, a.k.a "The Hare of Inaba" in English) is a story with which Tewi is frequently associated, and may well be the source of her name
it's just a funny coincidence, Tewi only associates with a moon rabbit but she's an earth one herself

is there vr?

>>583682970
>Carmille Tewy
>Jan Cope
Dutch
>Lux Lunae 22nd
Turkish
>Lux Lunae 99th
Iranian
>Lux Lunae 150th
Yuktobanian
There are some arabic names here and there too. It all seems to relate to where they're from rather than their social status though.

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>>583684282
Cool explanation, thank you anon.

>>583680546
nice balls

i always though sotoans were more air mongols than air turks

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>3 v 1
>Still win

en or jp dub?

>>583684842
EN was fine. Had a friend play the JP, was good too. Up to you to make the call.

>>583684842
EN is fine for once, doesn't seem to be any pozzed dialog either apart from debra wilson's checkbox and the forced muh mentor cringe at the end

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>ac8 trench runs

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>>583678658
;_;

>>583684791
>Not S rank
>Win

>>583684463
"Cope" and "Tewy" aren't very Dutch surnames, honestly. Rage and Scream's "Van Dalsen" is much more like it and they're (probably North) Osean.

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>Gunther bay assault
>liberation of gracemeria starts playing

>>583685085
they probably thought the average acbab would shit and scream through an actual tunnel or canyon with the new weight of the planes. the tunnel runs were weak af in this one too

>>583685572
I hope they make a DLC with a proper new tunnel run.

>>583685572
The online is basically a dead giveaway that they think the playerbase was fucking stupid

>>583686186
my cousin in law looks 1 to 1 exactly like this guy