>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.November 4th
Warlock or Mage?Troll, Orc or Undead?
Playing Alliance for first time, rolls dwarf shaman, ironforge almost empty............ is alliance just human cucked or what ? also rockbiter for 60min instad of 5min is BIG
>>583674965Prot Warrior (Tauren male)
The only thing wrong with levelcapped phases in SoD was that they simply lasted too long.If they keep the same duration as the beta I feel it could be a huge win for the Forever launch.
>>583675087
>>583675115It doesn't matter what you feel, reddit, because it isn't going to happen. About time to head to work, isn't it?
just got done reading the mop/wod thread on the bnet forums. how could blizzard be so cruel...
>>583675087This is me
Forever fucking sucks. I will not be resubbing. MMOs just aren't for me anymore, $15 a month loot gacha. Pass.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LfL8Wow-GiwMy dumb ass actually thought they were planning a special video for Enhancement Shamans after leaving them out of the main video last week.I had no idea they dropped a short with the Enhancement segment.They really just fucking forgot about Enhancement.After all these years. After Bus Shock. They still can't be fucked to put in the bare minimum effort for this spec.WoW Forever really is going to just be Retail 2.0. It's the same fucking retards making the same retarded mistakes all over again.
>>583675172What are you talking about?
Pls post CUTE and FUNNY Ai Slop :)
>making an op that exclude 50% of /vg/ and 90% of MMO sistersEnjoy your dead thread straggot
>>583675239
>>583675254>Bus ShockMan they really do fucking hate enhancement don't they.
>>583675289/wowfg/ is healing.
>>583675289post your ass tranny>>583675271
>>583675254>They really just fucking forgot about Enhancement.Yeah that was kinda funny....
>>583675254They ignored Enh yet it's looking to be one of the most popular specs in the game.
>>583675259those old threads where everyone is asking what happens to mop and why classic servers arent mentioned at blizzcon. i only read them just now
>>583675239I know it comes around a lot but despite the constant shitposting, there are no actual blizzard employees here, you might want to direct your feedback at reddit or bluesky.
>>583675289
I want Pandarens and Kul Tirans because I'm fat and hairy and I want to play a fat and hairy character in-game.What's wrong with that? Why should it be World of Twinkcraft and not World of Bearcraft?
Warrior bros fury brosWhat weapon y'all running
>>583675289how does the OP do that? what
>>583675512lose weight
>>583675394>They ignored Enh yet it's looking to be one of the most popular specs in the game.I think the experience at 30 of being chronically oom in PvE and PvP and chronically CC'd and kited in PvP will make a lot of clueless new shamans reroll.
warrior is an easy lifeyou die a lotyou do damageyou wait for ragemeanwhile paladin solos 5 mobs, heals, bubbles
>>583675516Warriors get the rope. Fucking Mary Sue asses. Fucking dev favorite asses.
I can't pick a main xistersCan't choose between mage and warriorsOn one hand mage is my favourite for PvP, is good at farming so it could finance my other characters and it's also good at soloing content but it's boring as fuck in raids. Also with aoe nerfed single-target leveling is boring as fuck, hopefully it's viable again once you get CoC.Warrior is slightly less fun, sucks for solo activities and farming efficiently, even though warrior leveling is a kino experience, but the new weapons you can get look fun to use, and being able to tank makes endgame pve more bearable.
>>583675512Thisalso I want to play a warlock with a loli succubus
>>583675607Hows warrior a mary sue lol they got no heal
>>583675394>yet it's looking to be one of the most popular specs in the game.Yet again retards fall for the people testing it in beta = it will be popular.
>>583675642>I want to play a warlock with a loli succubusand i for one applaud your bravery.
>>583675632Both Warrior mining smithing mage tailoring and herb picking fr infinite gold
>>583675086Ironforge is mostly empty since patch 1.10 gave auction to Stormwind, it being le classic alliance capital is a hordefag lie pretty much
>>583675551I did. GLP-1s are magic.But spiritually, in my soul, I am still fat. I will always be fat on the inside because I spent the first 30 years of my life overweight.Don't I deserve to live my fantasy of still being 300lbs as I adventure across Azeroth?
>>583675741>Don't I deserve to live my fantasy of still being 300lbs as I adventure across Azeroth?no you cheated.
>>583675632on beta coc sucks or is bugged or something it seems to miss pretty easily. frost nova also does damage but doesnt root sometimes maybe related
>>583675741verily i say to you glp1s are the restedxp of real life hardcore
Is the hype still alive?
>>583675254Should have rolled paladin lmao
>>583675816LMAO
>>583675672Back in Vanilla and TBC, they never got nerfed. Their supports got nerfed. In TBC, they nerfed shamans, then druids, then priests, then paladins, because Warrior + Healer was the dominant arena duo, and then we all found out why when the lead dev mentioned he plays a warrior and he was going to have the new 2H pvp weapon on day 1 of the new season.In the Shaman threads, asking why Enhancement isn't going to be able to cast Chain Lightning with Maelstrom procs, the number 1 answer is that Blizz said they want Warriors to be the best melee Cleavers.This is how early WoW always went, until the lead dev swapped to DK and Ret Paladin in WotLK, and we probably all remember how broken those two were at WotLK launch.
>glowing shaman wolf form is a bugREEEEEEEE
>>583675816hype has become disgust for the cringe streamer beta sandbox but it will become hype again in two more weeks
>>583675741>GLP-1s are magic.why did jews allow people to take that but hgh isn't available everywhere while it does the same?
>>583675825>Mary Sue-adingDisgusting.That Seal Twisting talent just pisses me off. Nobody liked having to Seal Twist. It was the loud, autistic 1% of "hardcore" Paladins on the forums that liked that shit. Everyone else hated it. It's obscene that Blizzard is baking it into the fucking spec now.
>>583675906Based, it's WAY too glowy, literal FBI levels of glow.
>>583675816The hype died a week after beta launched, and then the corpse was kicked after blizzard made dungeon changes. It will only get worse
>>583675936women need glp-1s
>>583675816No, and imagine how bad its going to look when all the bugs and exploits from level 30-60 are abused. Games going to be ruined prscrically before it gets played
>>583674689Can you give me the back of the envelope calculation of how it's fine? (You can't because this is bait)
>>583675741>burgers eat so much they can't lose weight without helplol
Why can't reddit handle the truth?Why are hybrid players (Priest, Paladin, Shaman, Druid) players living in such delusion?
Now that the booty bay gun is nerfed, any other way to grief people off a cliff?
>>583675716I was thinking Mining and Smithing for warrior if it's my main, then I eventually drop mining and go enineering and use my mage as a gathering slave with mining and skinning, or herb if you can track both in forever.
>>583676123Devs confirmed warrior is a hybrid class.
>be me>2006>get killed by defias pillagers one too many times>roll a priest>spend an hour a day for the next few months logging on just to cast Power Word: Shield and Renew on newbies struggling against pillagers in MoonbrookWill Forever have a place for me?Will Forever recapture that feeling of making a newbie's day by sparing them a pain I had suffered before them?
>>583676123Even worse are the people screaming for Non Hybrids to get more utility instead of damageLike what? Hunter already has a lot of tools, it doesn't need group buffs too. Same for Rogue, every class needs its niche otherwise it aint even an RPG anymore
>>583676123Paladins are in a constant state of lobbying for more buffs on any server that does class changes. They can't help themselves.
>>583676193I mean yeah? It fills two rolesWhats next Priest aint a hybrid because it only fills two roles?
RETBVLLS RISE THE HE*CK UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10ECkQXQtU
>>583676272It's actually insane, they're never satisfied.
>>583675741Burgers need to take a drug instead of stuffing their mouth with endless slop but god forbid a chud wants a little TRT.
>>583676108Actually, in my case it was a combination of having a gene mutation that makes the conversion from stored fat back into carbohydrates less energetically efficient alongside a childhood illness that wiped out my healthy gut microbiome.I could eat 1500 calories a day and not lose a pound of weight. I'd just sleep for 12+ hours per day to compensate. All the more reason for fat races to be in the game. Some of us didn't get a choice about being fat.
>>583676193Warrior is a hybrid like rogue is a healer.>A druid can still heal in raids regardless of talents and gear.>A priest can still heal in raids regardless of talents and gear.>A warrior cannot tank in raids without specific talents and gear.They only pretend that's the case because their primary way of interacting with the community is reddit and twitter and those places are filled with retards like you.
>>583676345>Some of us didn't get a choice about being fat.did you diet and start working out?
>>583676123Hybrid Tax is retarded because the Devs need to realize that the solution is to MAKE EVERYTHING HYBRID.Stop making "pure" specs, you fucking idiots! Make every spec diverse and interesting! Turn Arms into a Battlemaster spec that buffs and heals allies by rallying them around banners or something.
>>583676378>A warrior cannot tank in raids without specific talents and gear.A warrior can tank without talents and gear about as much as those classes can heal without talents and gear.
>>583676123Shaman sucks because it can heal? I almost believe this cop.e
>>583676378A feral druid has 20% of the healing output of a healer.A dps warrior with a shield has 85% of the survivability and 100% of the threat and all but last stand from the kit of a tank.
>>583676123>Priest, Paladin, Shaman, DruidYou forgot Warrior
>>583676378Doesn't matter what you think. The devs say that warrior is a hybrid. You can cope, you can seethe, you can dilate, but it doesn't change the fact that warriors are confirmed hybrids.
>>583676345>Some of us didn't get a choice about being fat.true for those people who are already fat in 1st grade but if you got fat later its weak avoidance
>>583676559And if some kid enters first grade as a fat roll there should be a child protective agency investigation for neglect and abuse.
I don't want to play forever anymore.
>>583676378>>A warrior cannot tank in raids without specific talents and gear.The difference between a dps warrior and tank warrior is a stance change in classic.
>>583676123I don't mind if pure dps, i.e. rogue, lock, mage and hunter are top dps, but they need the tbc way of having a reason to bring a shadow priest to a raid, which right now there is none (they are King in PvP though)
>rogues are casually making hundreds of gold doing easy shitAnother reason to hate them
>>583675254>yfw retards thought they where going to get shaman tanksNah nigga, enjoy 30%-50% of your tree being almost tank shaman memes and having no direction or sub builds instead lemAyo.
>>583676378>Warrior loses ability to use shield and taunt without 20 points in ProtAre brownies actually retarded or do they just pretend to be?
>>583674907>displaying the captured flag of your enemy next to their executed corpseBrutal.
>>583676776I can't wait for reddit to hear you can just walk around SM in your quest disguise and loot the chests for valuables. They'll be even more upset after the ladder is pulled up a couple days after launch when the first to level rogues have their mount gold.
>>583676123spriest is the only hybrid spec in real content. a boomkin should have the same damage potential as a mage and warlock. the fact that devs are stuck in this dadgamer line of thought where ele shaman having access to healing spells means it's a hybrid is worrying. and no, there's no such thing as hybrid classes because no one plays a class in 2026. we play a spec.
>>583676870B-bu-but! This was supposed to be slowie tardy type b paradise!Why are rush-aheaders getting ahead? That's unfair to me!!They should be perma'd forever as punishment, this isn't what aggrend promised me!
>>583676865sis that's a citizen of orgrimmar
Ok guysWill Pala be a viable tank ?
>>583676776How?I thought pickpocketing dungeons is gutted since classic.
Shaman sisters, we must unionize and collectively start complaining on social media. If warriors got what they wanted simply by crying loudly enough, why can't we do the same?
>>583676865holy copethat's the flag of troongrimmar
>>583676948Absolutely. There will be more than 1 viable tank this time.
>>583676935Hybrid is a pvp concept and people need to get it through their heads.And then realize it is impossible to balance pvp and pve on the same axis and there is a reason why every version of wow clamours for pvp and pve split and damage auras and adjusts instead of randomly castrating classes because "W-well! In pvp a paladin can drop 2x fol and crit heal someone! So they can totes be real healers in pve while in ret gear!!".Every version of wow, official or private, eventually relents and does pvp and pve balancing including hidden auras that nerf character damage/healing in pvp/pve environments for a fucking reason.
>>583676946looks like asmongold
>>583676948Paladindu will be a viable tank in dungies until they gut thorns(/ret aura) scaling because nazi chuddies are aoe farming while overgeared to fuck.End game viability will be:Druid>Warrior (the one boss fight that actually can crit-crush and kill you)>>>Paladin.Aggrend won't buff them because he plays retardin, not protadin or holy pal, and he plays bear druid.
I'm thinking about playing one of the /wpsg/ servers for a fix. The alternative is resubbing today to play Anniversary or Era, which means paying again on the third day after launch. Yes, I realize I'm a sick man. An animal really
>>583676948It's probably the best one since the statistical differences are so small but as a paladin you can remove raid mechanics with a bubble. They're also going to be best aoe tanks because retri aura and thorns spell damage scaling is too busted (like at least two times too high currently).
>>583676865see >>583676946 >>583677034Horde players are mentally ill.
>>583676463>A warrior can tank without talents and gear about as much as those classes can heal without talents and gear.Completely wrong.Healing is part of the shaman's kit. They always have the option to use it regardless of spec or itemization. Healing negates all forms of damage equally as well, and the source of it (player, npc) is irrelevant.Tanking is not the same. A warrior in dps gear and talents gets killed just as fast as any other class. Tanking primarily works to negate physical damage as well, which is a minority of the damage dealt by players. It is something that must be specialized into.
>>583676436Yeah. It just made me exhausted all the time. Borderline narcoleptic. I'd pass out and sleep for 4 hours at the end of every workout because my body couldn't convert lipids back into glucose to burn for energy fast enough. And the bad gut microbiome I developed due to that childhood illness would attack the lining of my intestines and cause inflammation, symptoms of IBS and Crohn's disease, vomiting, etc.I had to take a stimulant to stay awake on the GLP1 and then go months with IBS/Crohns symptoms before the healthy gut microbes finally overtook the bad ones.>>583676559It started for me at age 3. Growing up, I ate the exact same meals as my siblings, and then went outside and played the exact same games, and they never became overweight, but I did. My parents would give me less food and put me into more sports in school to try to make me lose weight, but it never worked. I just had to sleep more to offset the calorie deficits. I couldn't resist the sleep, either. My parents made me walk to school while they drove my siblings because I "needed to lose some weight", and I'd microsleep the whole way there. I'd get there and have no memory of walking to school. Then I'd fall asleep in class all day.Imagine how it felt to live like that for years, and then to have your favorite MMO suddenly add an entire race of jolly fat bastards that spent all their time training and sleeping, just like you.That's why I want Pandaren in Forever.
>>583676935>no one plays a class in 2026. we play a specTo retail you go.
>>583675739Stormwind was mostly empty in vanilla even when they added linked AH at least on my server, Bloodfeather. There was more traffic with TBC release since it's closer to the Dark Portal, but everyone was in Shat anyways. SW being the capital is a Classic thing.
>>583677039NiceDid anyone play horde? Are there too many palas?
>>583677235Go to the gym, tubby. Cut out the sugar and the paragraph of excuses, god damn.Tubtub thinks he's a snowflake
>>583677312forever horde should just be renamed to the scourge, it feels like 60% of people play undeadof those undead, I'd say half are paladinst. horde pve megaserver pro
>>583675984REEEE FUCK U
>>583676870It's not even good gold per hour, maybe at level 30 it is but a rogue should have their mount longer because they only ever need to learn like 4 skills and leave everything else on the trainer
>>583677234What is tanking but survivability? There's something very ironic about calling Woyer a hybrid class because it has has this capacity for survivability, when it has always had the absolute worst solo survivability in the entire game.
>>583677312horde is 90% AGP skelves
>>583677234braindead take. this isn't retail.
Apparently warlocks got some major resistance nerf compared to classic era? Can someone explain please?
>>583677374undead are definitely first, then the asspull elves and orcs for the tryhard racial fagstauren and trolls are rare cryptids
I accept the premise that warriors shouldn't be the top DPS and fury should be nerfed but the game shouldn't just be around raidlogging.You should also take into consideration other factors:Are they good at PvPAre they good at soloingAre they good at farmingDo they have grpup utilityDo they have a lot of convenience like portals, travel form, etc.Especially in forever which I seriously hope won't just be a raidlogger's paradise.If you make warriors only good at tanking what else do they have?
>>583677072Hybrid is open world concept. You can't have hybrids in a game where most relevant for progression content is purposefully designed around specific party and raid role compositions.
>>583677370>What is tanking but survivabilityOkay. So the most tanky class in the game, warlock, is a hybrid then?
>>583675954Seal twisting in tbc is a lot of fun. Im not playing paly in forever though, so I haven't played the dumbed down version, it not being a rhythm mini game probably ruins the whole thing.
>>583677263>lilvro thinks retail randies are different from classic andiesCute.
>>583676123you left out warrior brownie
>>583677206That faggot has a gnome profile pic
>>583677524arguments?
>>583675125
ME GRIMLOK, KING!
>nerf dungeons in to the ground so everyone has to quest>make quest rewards completely irrelevant because crafted gear is better
>>583677374What is the last day I can I join the /wowfg/ guild discord with enough time to suck and fuck my way into the loot clique before launch? >>583677487I disagree with Aggrend's notions and was using an analogy, if you accepted a premise that survivability was a good word to describe a tank. I don't care about your idiotic "tankiness" analogy, because a warlock can't tank at all except in very specific encounters. The ability to taunt and put on a shield is useless 99% of the game for 99% of woyers, it doesn't make it a hybrid class.
>>583677572he plays female blood elf in retail but pretends to be a gnome fan for some bizarre reasonhe's also a writer for wowhead, remember that when you give them any clicks
>>583677072Actual intelligent poster that understands the problem.If the devs want to fix the hybrid issue they need to have a way to delete half of a priest / shaman / druid / paladin spell book when they spec or gear into anything other than holy/resto/disc.
>>583677578I didn't finish the show but the end of this manga was so fucking retarded
>>583677234>A warrior in dps gear and talents gets killed just as fast as any other classSo true!DPS warrior is squishy.
>>583677614proof?
paladinmining skinninghunterskinning lwwarriormining smithing
>>583677637>warlock can't tank at all except in very specific encountersWarlock can tank in every pvp encounter. In fact warlock has the best damage mitigation of any class in pvp.>>583677718Post a warlock at the same gear level with SL/SL
Human Female WarlockTailoring / EnchantingBlack Mageweave TransmogSuccubus pet always outRP serverOh yeah, it's gaming time.
>>583677718Why did you post a tank warrior?
>>583677897I cant play alliance especially humans look so fucking generic in a fantasy worldI wanna play as big orc with huge DICK raping the human woman in azeroth
>>583677454Warriors should be the best - they have the least utility of any class and revolve purely around hitting things.Just not the best by such a wide margin
>>583677637>can you select multiple rolls?>yes, you are hybrid>no, you aren't hybridDespite warrior seething this is the only proper way to differentiate between hybrids and pure classes.
>>583677929>>583676691
>>583677234Warriors always have taunt, mocking blow, sunder armor, shield block, last stand, thunder clap, demo shout. If shaman is a hybrid because it has heals regardless of spec, then warrior is also a hybrid. But it doesn't matter what you or I think, the devs said warrior is a hybrid, so there's really nothing to discuss.
>>583677693sure, if we also remove blink from frost mages, fear from warlocks and kidney shot from rogues
Is she ever going to come back?
>>583677957Admittedly, I don't usually play humans in WoW either, but I want to play Alliance this time around because I always go Horde and there's 0 chance I'm picking a Gnome, so Human is the only option left for Lock.
>>583677356Well then I will go human
>>583678026Sounds good.
>this in pvp
>>583677986>Warriors should be the best - they have the least utility of any class and revolve purely around hitting things.Yes>Just not the best by such a wide marginAlso yes. People are just needlessly obsessed with hating them. The devs have completely fucked fury/prot builds of era. Tanking is now an actual specialization which cannot be done by any warrior in any gear in raids. Even fury prot warriors were wearing more defensive gear than a pure dps warrior.Hybrid shitters cannot get around the fact that their pvp performance matters and that they are able to heal always regardless of their spec or items worn.Warrior objectively has the fewest utilities in the game.
>>583677235God I fucking hate lazy fat liars like you, claiming that your body shuts down if you workout and eat broccoli lol. Bet you eat "healthy" for a week then go for a 3 to 4 day binge and think that's normal persons calorie intake. Feeling terrible during and after workout is a sign of laughably low fitness level, how long did you even try before quitting?
>>583678208>this in my bank for the rest of time because I might need it some day
>>583677614>the good crafted gear recipes drop from dungeons>that profession has to be vastly overleveled to even craft those>materials needed are something you probably won't have naturally so you have to buy them off AH
>>583678304this but unironicallyi legitimately hate the iteme because i do this every single time. i've never used it once
>>583678264>class i play should be the bestNo bias whatsoever.
>>583678264Any class doing 3x the damage of other classes is not good for the game.
Now that the dust has settled we're all playing prot warrior, right?
>>583678359>should I use these marbles while leveling or should I use them on Patchwerk
>>583678208this bailed me out more than once in hardcore
>>583678017>Warriors always have taunt, mocking blowThreat modifiers are useless in pvp, and if you're not geared and spec'd to tank in a raid, using taunt means you die instantly.>sunder armorThis is a dps button>shield blockRequires specific gear>last standRequires talents>thunderclap, demo shoutDoesn't impact spell casters. This is like arguing warlock having curse of tongues and weakness makes them a hybrid.
>>583678273If it doesn't feel good right now i stop doing it because if it feels bad then it is bad for you.
>>583678449no one else is talking about minigames, unc
>>583678490based heuristic, young king
Putting aside mega realms, half the reason I won't recognize/meet people I've played with in the world is because first and last names encourage ultra generic npc tier fantasy names like Gunnar Stonefist. You really think I can differentiate between you and all the other "Fists"
>>583678449>pvpminigamefags input is literally irrelevant to the discussion
>>583676870>after launchlol
>get new chestpiece>suddenly my femgome has a huge titwindow>mfw
As someone who plays on and off every few years it's always annoying to deal with the addon bullshit at release. I was hoping this time would be different and they just removed them.So what essential addon am I forgetting here. Atlasloot, questie, dungeonjournal, angleur, tsm, autolayer. What else?
>>583678047Even IF i were to play a cute human, gnomes take me the fuck out of the gameThey're so hideous it's unreal
>>583677072trvth nvke tsar BOMBA that annihilates the mind and soul of the grey parser sovltard
>>583678449>pvplmfao
>>583677693They are already doing that in the retail way, ie make the spells baseline be fucking terrible and itemization not grant the correct scaling to fix the issue.Which also is going to make healer leveling even more terrible but that's an aside lmao.
>>583678635There isn't a single addon you need to comfortably play classic
>>583678603Every known and reported "thing" only gets looked at after launch when enough people do it on live and reddit finally finds out it's a thing you can do. Then they pull the ladder after "the economy is ruined". (This here is a small thing but it's indicative of the trend.)
>>583678628Shut up walking onahole.
>>583678526>>583678593>We want players out in the worldAs long as this is the primary stated goal of WoWF, WPvP balance in small engagements is the most relevant point of discussion. It is the primary content at end game for players. When people say hybrid, it's always in reference to pvp capabilities. No one gives a fuck about your healing wave in naxx. They absolutely care when you're using it while fighting against them.I don't get why you dumb fucking niggers don't see it. Warrior tanking is irrelevant as a role because tanking in pvp is irrelevant. Unless they completely delete spells from the true hybrid classes spell books, they will always need to deal less damage.
>>583678860Auuuwh..
>>583678490There are weak slobs who actually navigate through life like this.
>>583678854It happened in sod but this time... this time it will be different okay!?
>>583677072Rather than being a PvP concept, it's a concept that mainly exists in complex, unpredictable environments. PvE environments are simple and they're easy to solve. They're built to be predictable, and if they're designed to be hard, they're also unforgiving towards mistakes. This results in the solution being specialization to different roles and performing those roles optimally. Hybrid, on the other hand, is the answer to unpredictability. If you don't know whether you need A or B in a specific scenario, a hybrid that can do both A and B can be the solution. But once you do know what you need, the hybrid becomes suboptimal. PvP environments are chaotic and unpredictable, hence why hybrids exist there. You can technically have chaotic PvE environments while you're still dealing with the unknown or you're playing suboptimally, but in general these get resolved. Could you create similar PvE environments? Possibly.As far as balancing goes, sure. But you can't even balance them on their own without blatant homogenization. What even is balanced in PvE? People focus heavily on raid dps, but even that isn't a constant, because different fights result in different performance, unless you just homogenize all the classes.
>>583678912>Graartblllalllraaablargghhht.you goblin on my dik
>>583678865>WPvP balance in small engagements is the most relevant point of discussion. It is the primary content at end game for players.Quite possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read.
>>583678865Pvp isn't a priority for wowf, the developer said he didn't like the 4 mage 1 warlock level meta he saw in tbc classic despite them already raping aoe in dungeons later on by making mobs immune to slow
>>583678273>how long did you even try before quittingYears? My entire adolescence was spent like that because my parents were both health freaks that did decathlons and shit.I don't have to try anymore. I hit a healthy weight, regrew a healthy microbiome, and can keep weight off easily now. I eat more now than I did when I was "dieting" when I was fat. 2400 calories and the weight doesn't come back because my gut is healthier and my baseline metabolism is higher now that I can work out without passing out.
>>583678801The problem is the spells still exist and more of the hybrid specs still build for "damage and healing" gear. They need to completely remove the spells from their spell book. Something akin to>Cannot leave shadowform in combat, and after leaving shadowform you're unable to cast any healing spells for 1 minute.For every single hybrid class.
>>583678865No it isn't. Getting players in the world doesn't mean getting them in wpvp no matter how much your minigameass would want it to be true.
All the faggot tryhards are ruining the horde. They're only on this faction because of how obscenely broken orc and undead racials are and because we have all the terrain advantages for both worlds and instanced pvp.Something needs to be changed before launch because currently the faction ratio is looking to be very bleak as the Alliance is only attracting masochists who want to play on Nightmare Difficulty.
>>583679005It's a pvp concept, sorry you had to chatyidpty all of that shit lil gupta, but it just is.Your hecking "wholesomerino epicanerino!" hybridcuck healing in dps gear is meaningless, a literal drop of shit in the lands of the hindu type of meaningless.
>>583678304https://youtu.be/Fd97o-gEBuk?t=297
>>583678848If that was true they would remove addon support.I think I'm missing the one to equip the carrot or swap sets what was that called? Not sure what else I'm missing just wanna have it all lined up so I don't have to think about it later.
>>583678635just play, you dont need that shit
>>583679041>>583679042>>583679098>>583679158
>>583679115It would be better if they removed all racials from the game. You should choose based on psychospiritual alignment, aesthetic feeling, and the silent call of your racial soul.
>>583679158I'm sorry you lack the iq to analyze things deeper.
>>5836790582400 is on the low end of average calorie intake for an adult male
>>583677614>>583678342>buy gold from chinese botters>buy materials from chinese auction house manipulators. >make mediocre leveling gear to beat everyone else to 60>get a bunch of subs on twitch>raid once then get bored and play something else.the cycle continues.
>>583678635I have yet to use an addon during the betaIf I use one after release it'll be something like a totem manager or dbm
>>583677614>>583678801>>583679253Preach debunked this in his latest video.
no one has been able to defend this
>>583678854you trynna convince me or yourself? not that i care enough to save this for posterity
>>583679391We don't care. Everyone just plays with that shit turned off anyway.
>>583679158Fuck off back to lineage2 or whatever else pvp mmo your crawled out of.
>>583679115Just remove the elves from Horde and the factions will balance themselves out.
>>583678571Brunnok Sisterfister will get the respect he deserves.
>>583678912>>583678628I need to have sex with this drawing really really badly
>>583679334>reports you for RMT
>>583678628>girls in wow don't wear any kind of bra
>>583676123It's crazy that they just openly admit they have no idea how balancing the game works
>>583678628
>>583679564Wdym? You simply balance the game around the most popular posts on twitter and loudest streamers.Even a retard can do that.
>>583676946>>583677034i will no longer be playing undead paladin
>>583679391It's genuinely shocking how much more talented the old wow team was compared to the current one.
the damage tax on hybrids makes sense because the game has to compensate for the average hybrid player's higher IQ
>>583676378I hate warriorniggers so much
>>583679498denied.check my sub count.
>>583679115I wish the slop generator would make more with those 2 than the increasingly worsening slop he's been making
>>583679391I can still CLAIM that HD models are better. It doesn't have to be true.
Horde has always been the troon coded faction because troons worship the unclean and ugly because it gives them a better chance of acceptance in real life if everyone has some baseline level of respect for freakshit, alliance meanwhile is dad gamers and high fantasy enjoyers who like dwarves and elves because they were in lotr which they read when they were 12
>>583679813>spends 2 minutes on MS paint where you say the n-word on discord, posts it on twitter and reports you to twitch
>>583680036That's like one of the better ones and it's still ugly as fuck.
>>583672860Undead Paladin, although I might go Shaman on release just so I'm not playing a class/race combo that's gonna be oversaturated as fuck.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIoOXBkUxnQ
Dwarf Shaman or Rogue
>this sad nigger dumping his "blizzard bad" folder every day
>>583680036>>583679623>>583679496>>583679391>>583679335Never played human, but this shit is amazing, every other race looks better only Humans get batterd with the ugly stick............
>>583680163People have to know!!
>>583680163/wpsg/ is a ghost town so he has to come here to seethe
>>583680271>every other racefemtauren looks awful with hd
turning on transmog purely so I can use the red defias mask on my rogue FOREVER
>delusional troon focusing on what's important, staying silent while the pedofaggots spam their ritual posts
>>583679115horde used to be dad gamers who still played in a garage bandnow it's skelf troons and Sylvanus simpsshitsux
Blizzard won, I’m having a great time with forever, gonna be sweet to play this for years to come. You guys can fuck off to whatever Russian pserf shithole pops up before it gets RICO’d again lol
>>583680147I'm in the same boat man
>>583680429Nah man, dads will pick human male and slay a dragon.
>>583680268>noooooooooo ist that color in MY classic wow???
how do i play as a shota
>>583680271>every other race looks betterLiterally none of them look better, gnomes look like crackheads, night elves are dough faced, orcs are too smooth, WoD models are just bad all around, trolls are the only upgrade for all 2 of the people who play them
>>583680147Dwarf Paladin
>>583680621 Maybe he's delusional and hasn't realized he's dead yet.
>have olympus mute installed>watch some sperg get increasingly mad as I steal his tags until he starts strafing around on top of me and jumping probably spamming shit I'll never see
>>583680082>sends 2 asian bimbo escorts to dan's house.hey chat i'm back. there was no excuse for my language, and i was an idiot. to be fair though that guy popped out from behind the car.
>devs pull the ladder after everyone (ie streamers and type a rushers) is max level and gut quest/mob xp>Devs unnerf dungeons and aoe after everyone (ie boost sellers and streamers) can't level properly Which one will it be?
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/spoken-player
>>583680621>xhe though blizzard wouldn't shove this shit in to the gamehow are some of you so delusional? this is modern blizzard this is what they do
>>583680789kek I can’t wait to camp olympustrannies on release
Chances they push back the release date because of all the issues? I don't want to cancel my nip vacation for nothing
>>583675376>>583675270night time in arid horde zones is absolute LVDOKINO
>>583680876Paladins are canonically racist. Undeads are canonically racist. Undead Paladins are turboracists.
>>583680934There are no issues
>>583680875cool, too bad Im muting the game the second I login
>>5836809340%
>>583680841Neither
another boring pivot to asmon from tranniesyou make every game shit just with your presence
>>583680815>Draenei womenwe were robbed...>>583680934there are no issues in Ba Sing Se
>>583680875I installed the voiceover mod for classic a few years ago when it was going around thinking I would actually pay attention to the quests and it actually made it worse I found it annoying, I installed dialogue UI a while back though and just having the interface not be shit and the text be bigger made me actually start reading the textanyway my conclusion after reading 90% of leveling quests is thast most classic quests are shit and not worth reading
>>583680934What issues? I guess it's a bit bummer that some quests don't work.
>>583680552Let me know if you find an answerI need to meet a certain nelf as one
sex elf...
>>583680486shaman has the obvious in game demand going for it, and I dont even mind the playstyle, but dwarf rogue always felt pretty good too>>583680776No I've done that before and didnt dig it
>>583681060It's not much but sometimes you want to know why they want bear asses and 5 of them.
>>583680934>thought about doing another nip trip this year in november>pushed it back until next year and planned a shorter trip elsewhere that ends right before launchI always win.
>>5836809340% they sold the bundles and they have a big timer ticking down, this is modern blizzard you're talking about they regularly publish unfinished patches to retail and people eat them up, no reason this will be any different, all the bugs will be there and people will tell you that the bugs don't matter or are too minor to be an issue or that they haven't seen any bugs so they must not exist
>>583680493lol no. Dads play Horde. Alliance is the zoomer faction.
>>583681045>>583680970i hope youre memeing because beta is riddled with so many bugs and performance issues...
>>583680841They'll unnerf dungeons by the end of the beta
>>583680987>>583681060The diaolgue mod is GIGA SOULHoly shit
>>583681185>shaman has the obvious in game demand going for itShaman has demand right now but when they inevitably cave to reddit and streamers and make buffs raidwide the demand for shamans will disappear and their spots will go to whatever class is top dps
>>583680787a one off undead like that would be fun
>>583680841second one. 100%.The moment a streamer gets mass ganked, can't get mobs, etc... they'll all start crying.>>583681014t. Didn't play sod
>>583681238Works on my machine boy
>>583680876just in case it wasn't obvious enough.
>>583677034Did you forget about Corpsegrinder calling Alliance players faggots?
>>583681408this can't be a real post
>alright put a boss in that spawns 3 adds that stack bleeds for 100 damage a second>add an aoe fear >so what if the average player is in greens and some white with 500 hp>it was fine on the beta with everyone with 1.5k in full blues
>>583680934I don't think they'd push back the releaseI think they'd release it in such a poor state, it will be unplayable for the duration of your vacation
>>583681585Based. Time to use those CCs, chud.
>>583681585You aren't meant to do dungeons while leveling, that is bad and evil and kills the social open world.
>>583681585>he farmed monsters for exp instead of doing normal and dungeon quests
>brown sissies still crying about being subject to the same hybrid tax they used to justify their #1 spot for decades
>fury or arms>everyone uses 1h+ shieldwhy
>>583681585>you need to gradually gear up to attempt harder contentThis kills the retail fag.
>>583681808Because prot is better and gives extra rage for block parry and dodges
>>583681824Erm, actually!! That's retoilet.
>>583681867btu fory/arms isnt prot
>>583681585The raptors are just silly. It's not fine even when overgeared.
>>583681906Umm, acsually that's retoilet*classic-roblox
>>583681718acktually we just rerolled roguemeleeGODS stay winning
>>583681824>leveling dungeon>gear up for>level requirement met
>ppm down>Anons talking about the game againIm noticing.
>>583681585>Dungeons>LevelingI'm going to be fucking sick.You are supposed to quest and engage in the open world.ONLY. Dungeons are for end game and maybe for quest boost runs.
Why is dungeon spamming okay at endgame, but a problem during leveling?If the main argument is that group content should be deincentivized in instances because we want people spending more time in the open world, shouldn't that logic apply to endgame as well?Why does gear progression come from dungeons and raids instead of endgame open world quests? Wouldn't that also incentivize people to stay in instances rather than engaging with the world?I also want the open world to feel alive. Though, I can stand in a crowded mall with 1000 people walking past me and still feel alone. I just want there to be a booth where I can sit down with some friends and spend time together.
>>583681989Gating content behind gear is retoilet.Content being hard is also, retoilet.Excluding me, is apex retoilet.
>>583682029>boostniggers still crying about not being able to pay a bot run by a third worlder to skip playing the game for them
>>583682128You spend like 10% of your time at endgame doing dungeons/raids, doing each dungeon once while leveling is about the same 10%
>>583682128I dont really care but if I had a say, I dont think instanced dungeons are good for leveling in general. They should be like that troll area in the Hinterlands.
which race for pve dps warrior?
I WANNA ZUG ZUG BONK BUT I AM FOREVER A SHIELD WIELDING FAGGOT
Haven't touched wow since wotlk, what's the addon situation these days? Do I need like 20 addons to properly play the game? Can I actually get all the addons without some cancerous third party account creation?
>>583679253The problem is none of that matters for tryhard raid nerds who only care about dps meters.I used to raid as a Boomkin and would get shit for low dps numbers even on pulls where I saved the raid from a wipe with Tranquility. There were progression fights where we pulled through by the skin of our teeth and the logs showed me keeping HoTs on the tank made the difference between wiping and pulling through and people would still act like they were carrying me even when I managed to stay above the median on our dps meters while simultaneously doing all that offhealing.People are too stupid to conceptualize hybrids.
>>583680969If Blizzard had any edge left to them Forsaken paladins would be an order of fanatical, spiteful, vengeful flagellants, but instead there's going to be fuck-all to separate them tonally from Alliance paladins.
>>583680841There is one thing that is true for every version of wow: rush to max level and exploit whatever you can before it gets patched. You will be so far ahead and the ”enjoy the journey” fags will never catch up.
>>583682390not very zug likeblizzard clipped your nuts
>>583681996Yes, it's called smelling the flowers you Nazi chud type a rusher
>>583682393There arent any that you actually NEED. Thrle stuff youd want is built into the default UI now. Addons are more or less cosmetic at this point.
If I’m going full affliction should I use demonic sacrifice for the 15% shadow damage increase? I’ll be leveling with a friend so I don’t need a “tank”.
>>583682483RAHHHH I WANNA 2H BONK MAN
>>583682201>Cant readI'm going to sell q boosts and make tons of cash lolAnd also aoe elite farming.You cant stop better players, and boy. In the better man and player.
>>583682535this item wont be abused no no no
Reminder: /ourwhore/ charlyne is live and she needs paypiggies
>>583682273you spend like 90% of your time at endgame pvping. if i had known that i would never have started playing this game.
>>583682554I don't remember any orcs in Warcraft 3 using a shield, even the orc in the vanilla cinematic uses what looks like a two handed war club
>>583681585> so what if the average player is in greens and some white with 500 hpThe last boss is 31 or 32. Meaning you shouldn’t be the before 27-28. No one is wearing white items at that level.
>>583682397>The problem is none of that matters for tryhard raid nerds who only care about dps meters.It absolutely does matter because the second there's a BiS item from a pvp reputation or honor ranking, those same people engage in PvP and benefit from being a hybrid.>I used to raid as a Boomkin and would get shit for low dps numbers even on pulls where I saved the raid from a wipe with Tranquility. There were progression fights where we pulled through by the skin of our teeth and the logs showed me keeping HoTs on the tank made the difference between wiping and pulling through and people would still act like they were carrying me even when I managed to stay above the median on our dps meters while simultaneously doing all that offhealing.Yes, the average player is a fucking retard. I completely agree with you. The only solution to the problem is the cataclysm talent system. You pick a specialization, and the game deletes all the spells from your character which you're not allowed to have anymore.
>>583682458No! This time it will be different!!!It just will, it will...I just has to be...Please don't exclude me again, I'm 36 year old without a house, job, wife or family. You cant keep excluding me from everything...This time... It has to be different!! IT JUST HAS!!!
>>583682604>boostniggers seething and malding and shidding and farding because they cant use their debit cards to get third worlders to do everything for them
>>583682735Wow it's like you're reading my mind
>>583682458Far ahead... for what?
>>583682607
I want to hunter but i hate animals. anyone having success with the lone wolf talent?
Post hybrid talent trees that fuck
You losers got super uppity when WOW classic was released and said it would kill wow and insulted Retailchads non stop Two months after release WoW classic died because nobody enjoyed the gameplay, empty ugly slow world with no flying and lack of content.Now you're doing it all over again but the only new content is a dungeon and a 30 USD race and still won't learn your lesson?You do know Forever is DoA right? In two months there'll be 0 players leftIn Retail were about to have a new class and head to Northrend while forevercels still can't play Paladin DPS lmao
>>583680271>blizzard made all humans to look like downies so that the playerbase could feel representedkino
>>583681408autism speaks
>>583682607It caps at 30% so lil cryboomba can get a green parse at long last.
How will you play on release day? Immerse yourself? Or have your favourite e-celeb play on your 2nd screen?I will immerse and occasionally check in what the world first 60 racers are up to (or rather just ahmpy)
>>583682947>I want to hunter but i hate animalsHow very brown of you
>>583682993See >>583682735
>>583682993You missed the part where there's a development timeline for new content retarded troll
vgh it feels so weird playing with all the broken shit like infinite wand kiting
been leveling slow monit's a slow life as a warrior
>>583683154Yeah, because that made sure sod numbers didn't nose dive hahah
>>583683063Release is like 11pm in the UK and it's going to be a fucking shitshow as usual. I'll be going to bed about 10 to get up fresh and early so I can log on in the morning.
>>583683240This time, it's different. This time, it's Forever
Reminder the social preferred languag setting is liveChange it to english its default on BR HUEHUE
>>583683241I had no problem playing 2019 classic on midnight release for about an hour.
Levelling gear quality should be dungeon >= BoP craftable > long elite chain >= world drop BoE > craftable BoE > random shit, with BoP craftables not filling more than 2 slots at a given level, prove me wrong
>>583683225blizzard should make a caravan traverse the roads that crashes into and destroys camp sites/fires, so you niggers learn to not put them in the middle of the roadways
Ive changed my mind, I hope Forever kills retail. Somehow the homosexual reddit posters of Forever are better than the turbo beet welfare autists of retail, let that shit die.
we need heirlooms
>>583683492That's the best place to put em retard.
>>583683225There's a tiny man standing in your campfire.
>>583683063I won't be watching any wow streamers, watching wow is fucking boring
>>583683240I stopped playing SoD because the time between level cap increases was too long and, if anything, they weren't changing enough stuff. My sub was also ending and I didn't want to keep it up for the other two months until the next phase and by then I had forgotten about WoW in general in lieu of several other games/things I was having more fun with.
>>583679353Link?
the hype is gone the beta went on for too long
>>583679353Venruki re-bunked it in his latest video.
>warrior>bad dps>paladin>instashots
>>583683569>noooo if I cant pay brown people to skip as much of the game as possible how will I ever recover noooooo>you have to give me a way to skip as much of the game as possible I will pay money for it pls bizzlard
>>583683631>Sod didn't change enough!!1>Now wow forever?? Now thems a lot of changes awooogaaa!!!1
This feels like Retail-lite overall.Certainly leaning towards a retail UI, Menu system, Settings, Tabs, Quest text, QoL features. Even simple things like the smaller icons and default frames are all retail-flavored. Pink xmog appearance notifications caps the modern experience off.Not necessarily a criticism, just an observation- but it doesn’t feel like an extension of classic in that sense, at all.
>>583683573can put them off to the side of the road needs to be a nigger and block everyone's path gets angry when pointed out, classic horde nigger behavior
>running dungeons a second time feels like crap>do WC once, finish with 8/20 deviate hides and 5/7 dreadfangs killed>killing the last boss deletes every mob left in the instance great, as if this place didn't already suck enough
Is stayvun still in this general? Please tell me you have plans for alex in wow forever? I wanna see that fucking faggot get camped.
>>583683882Use your two crusty eyes maybe? Just a thought
>>583682947lone wolf is gonna be the superior way to play in almost any group contenteven at 30, with bugged pets doing 50% more dmg, lone wolf is better for pvp outside of 1v1's. however, while questing/lvling the pet as tank is invaluable
>>583683854just toggle it off little bro
>>583683964Not good enough. All must see the sovlful version.
>>583683885WC quests truly are the worst. You should've at least killed the dreadfangs.There literally isn't enough Hides or Serpentblooms for everyone in the fucking instance.
>>583683854Don't forget the LGBT new quests
I’ve been playing Warrior in WoW Forever, and the biggest issue isn’t necessarily the numbers. The class just doesn’t feel like it progresses.You go level after level without getting meaningful new buttons or mechanics. Your rotation barely develops, so leveling up often doesn’t actually make your character more interesting to play. Other classes seem to unlock new tools and interactions, while Warrior feels almost identical for huge stretches of the game.The bigger problem is Rage.Rage generation feels extremely restrictive, especially when you’re not already in an ideal combat situation. You need Rage to use your abilities, but you need to attack and get the fight going before you can generate enough Rage to actually play your character. It creates this awkward loop where Warrior often feels weakest and least responsive at the beginning of a fight.
>>583683437how do you play games and then go straight to bed? I'm wired and end up just lay thinking about the game
>>583678628>>583678628>>583678628Please stop bringing this to /czn/I said WoW is a game for ERP trannies surprise, he's a tranny ERPing in this thread and now he's melting down in /czn/ saying that I'm some turtle schizo whatever the fuck that means. If he's ERPing in your thread that's on you guys now.
>>583684135ur lvl 30 faget w8 & see
>>583684085You need to go out of your way for the last 2 dread fangs.Also serpent bloom and hides can, and should, be farmed outside.t. Tank MANDIGOD and quest booster
>>583684085in most cases if you just go by the shortest route you will miss 1 or 2 dreadfangsin rare cases, there actually arent 7 dreadfangs in total even if you kill every last mob
>>583684135Warrior gets their only new buttons at 36 and 40.Until then you're pressing Sunder and Hamstring while autoattacking.
>>583684224Rage should still be something Warriors manage, but resource management should create decisions, not periods where you simply can’t press anything.Warrior doesn’t need to become complicated for the sake of complexity. It just needs more agency.Faggot.
>>583684135>what is charge and bloodrage
>>583684224>>583684278 Why speak on something you have no clue? Rage is normalized and ruins the design of the class, that will not change. Rotation will be slow and clunky with their main cooldowns being long as hell. Has nothing to do with 20 or 60 >>583684351 But you dont have WW and BT or most of your other abilities…. At 60 youre going to have the same rage as you do now but with x3 the abilities… why cant people understand that normalization means youre going to have the same rage as level 1 as you will in naxx during KT fight?
>>583684257Ah didn't know. You'd assume people will go out of their way to kill those remaining 2 since now quests are the reason you run the place unless your party is full of 30s.
>>583682658Lmfao no you don’t.
>>583674907Blizzard could force you to /kneel infront of the tranny flag and chuds would still play the game
>>583684290>>583684364relax fags LOL
>>583684364You are meant to level as prot, retard-kun.Siiigh, do we have to go through this again? You are meant to play certain specs for leveling, that's the way blizzard intended the game to be :/
warlock or druiddo I have any trust in blizzard not completely gutting hybrids and making them unplayable dog shit again
Guys I know the solution to the hybrid damage debat. It's been right in front of us the entire time. Class specializations and ability pruning.
>>583684364Ah I see you're still playing the version where 20 is level cap.
>>583682387night elf
>>583682821Everything. Most importantly: gold.
>>583684534And that gets you what? Faster mount?
>>583684454Do you understand what normalization means? It means its not going to improve as you level a warrior. You'll have the same rage at 60 as you do at 20, so just more abilities that you cant press. >>583684496 At LVL 10 my warrior couldn't fight 2 mobs at once. After a single HoT run with to get some gear at LVL 15 I could easily take 2 mobs. Now at 20 after a deadmines I can now take multiple mobs with ease. Plus getting cleave and victory rush are going to make leveling even breezier.
>>583683721Sorry chud but it was pre-bunked.
>>583681585skill issue.
zug zug
>>583684608Gold gets you anything you want in the game, just like it gets you anything you want in real life. No matter what gates Blizzard tries to put in front of it, it will always be the case.
>>583684620Crits give you more rage now. You will have slightly more rage at 60 than at level 1.
>>583675289Post hands
>>583684483>The solution to [problem] is [retail]Can't wait!
warrior sucks at low level so i just got him to 20 and pause until next phasei ended up taking the 5% parry for leveling first because when you parry you attack back faster and you get some survival , and that way i can tank low dungeons .Then you could go for rage on block if you count tanking .But at the end of the day i think its all pretty bad for warrior at level 20Victory rush is ok but has 30 sec CD saddly to grind
>>583684135Yeah that’s what warrior is like in vanilla. That’s what the #nochanges uncs want.
>>583684135It should be really obvious by now that they want you to go prot.
>>583684760>so i just got him to 20 and pause until next phasewho's gonna tell him
>>583684783I hate em already.>>583684798Then delete Arms and Fury honestly.
>>583684713You can get most of those things without gold too, jew. Sure you can get them slightly faster and be even more "ahead" for nothing.
>>583684620>Level higher >Damage into rage is the same>Block, Parry, Dodge is higher so you get more rage:/ why do I even bother to help you? Just go play retoilet.
Warrior NEEDS the 1% heal on hit legacy point
>>583684760
>>583675816>this nigger couldn’t afford the beta
>>583684783retoilet falseflagging
Maplestory classic is out and you guys are talking about some dead beta that's just going to get wiped anyway
>>583684839Whoa, really cool argument, you sound like a really smart person.
>>583684941I'm not preordering a 2002 game WITHOUT changes.
the beta shouldve only been a week and gone to fifteen
My boyfriend thinks wow forever is garbage
>>583684941i'm not south east asian
>>583684823>>583684918them. You need specific gear to make them work, and hit is a major component of that. Weapon skill is another.Before 60, arms is just better. You hit way more often, you get sweeping strikes, and those two things alone put it ahead. Once you have world buffs and hit cap, fury pulls ahead by a lot.That's why it feels ad, because you're missing all the shit that makes it good.
>>583675816it's a temp beta and then all deleted, i really don't get all the hype, saving mine for actual release
>>583684745MoP is classic.
>>583684135Man this is really good bait, it almost got I really am not seeing the problems other warriors are reporting with regard to rage generation. I was specced prot and the rage generation was good and fighting enemies felt correct. I respecced into arms with a 2h and...it felt correct? Like everyone is dooming over rage generation and I can confidently say leveling as a 2h warrior never felt better. I can pull packs of 3 or 4 enemies, tab target rend, and then just cleave them all down. I'm not seeing these suppsed massive, glaring rage generation issues other people seem to be experiencing. I actively avoided leveling as 2h in previous iterations of the game because of how shitty rage generation felt, but now (at level 24) I don't really feel starved for rage at all. Idk what yall are doing wrong, I think the warrior doomers ITT are either just shitposting, trying to psyop people out of playing warrior so they can have less competition, or are just bad at playing warrior
>>583684979You're just too jewish to understand there's nothing to get ahead of.
>>583685074
>>583684839Not to mention the rushers get to go gank you while you’re still killing panthers in STV lol. Then they get to dunk on you in BGs with their superior gear and premades.
>>583685096>preddit trash
>>583685096what's most impressive about default woyer main dominance is that even with all the hysterical bitching it's still the most played class. you have to really nerf them to break the cycle.
>>583684979You don't get it, you are huuh... JEWISH!! YEAH!!!You aren't allowed to be better than me! Anyone that is cheating and evil!t. Timmy the entitled white cuck
>>583684713How do I get pink parses with gold?
>>583685009But you are Indian. Don’t deny it, you already outed yourself.
>>583685096Blizzard has removed this to make balancing warriors easier, but has not given them anything in return. Now you are rage starved at level 20 and will be rage starved at level 60 in purples. Warrior just want to be able to press their buttons, but instead it’s currently a white hit simulator. Rage from damage taken is currently bugged, when they’ll fix it you’re gonna get rage from being hit during those 7 seconds. Plus you can use charge and bloodrage.The only way to solve this issue would be to add hit rating on more low level gear, but then you’d have to do it for every class and the result would be that everyone does more damage because their spells/abilities don’t miss as much. The end result is the same.
Ngl the best thing in this beta is reading warrior tears on the internet, how the mighty have fallen
>>583685123
I picked PvP server again, but I can already see it's going to end up like my classic pvp server, with everyone raid logging and cross-faction collusion ruining wpvp.
>>583685139W-well!! I'll just play on pve rp and goon!>>583685239>Pink parses>Without gold>In classic-JeJ
the view is spectacular mon
>>583685239>can't parse easy game with everything in the game
>>583685220People will still roll warrior hoping that maybe, just maybe it’s as insanely OP as it was in that final patch of vanilla WoW.
>>583685139Rusher's aren't sticking around into STV to gank you.
>>583685301YOOOOOOOO
All forevercels will rush back to retail after a month lmaoNobody enjoys classic gameplay.
>>583685096I totally get it that people say Warrior feels like at 30 because Warrior starts after 30.
>>583685351>nafofags play foreverIt's over
If you want to play the game on hard mode play warriorEasy mode is paladin and hunterEveryone else is normal mode
MoP is about as classic as TBCthat is to say, not at all
>>583685360i play warrior because it's the only fun class
>>583685285They were always massive crybabies. It was just difficult to justify when they were so far above all other classes.
>>583685423>If you want to play the game on hard mode play warrioryou misspelled priest
>>583685484That was certainly true in Classic. One of the only complete classes in the game.
>>583685484this, except druid
>>583685404back to your trench
>>583681234Based knower
>nerf dungeon mob exp nobody wants to dungeon>quests items in the open world are 10% drop rate and dont encourage grouping upwhat was blizzard thinking? do they really want me to play alone the whole time
How did warriors end up as the biggest crybabies?
>>583685553>>583685553SurePaladins woflsbane 2h swords procc is so ridiculously overpoweredMeanwhile other classes get.......nothing comparable
I need your thoughts on the beta. Is it shaping up to be an enjoyable iteration?
>>583685423>If you want to play the game on hard modeRogue and priest>MediumEveryone else>EasyHunter, Paladin and Shaman
>>583685592zelensky tells me ukraine will win in 2 more weeks but only if we give them more money
>>583678628>>583678912Olga flopped, CZN lost.
>>583685704>priest>hard modeLMAO NO
>>583685351lolI don't know if I can stomach playing a game with these people, not to mention the "people" who actually use HD
>>583685662they're the most mindbroken by the dopamine feedback loop that was classic warrior endgame, they are deranged addicts
>>583685704>priest>hardYou are mistaken, sir
>>583685662When you’re used to everything being amazing the slightest inconvenience will seem like the end of the world.
>>583685579even in later iterations i still only liked warrior. even other melees just aren't fun, i really thought i'd like death knight in wotlk but the feel of it was just lame, especially the sounds of their abilities compared to warrior
>>583685704>>583685553When does priest get hard. Is it the boredom boss? Wanding for 50 levels does seem kinda boring.
>>583685764it's just fucking dotting and wanding, i would literally kill myself.
>>583685651>>quests items in the open world are 10% drop rate and dont encourage grouping updon't forget hunters are already starting to hold mob tags hostage and try to extort gold out of people for group invites lolnice social pillars aggrend
>>583685360>>583685484I just like playing woyer because it's fun as wellRage is fun to play with, and sweeping strikes+WW+cleave make big yellow numbers appear on my screen
>he boughted the goblin gun
>>583685351>ukranian pigs in foreververy grim
>>583685847But thats not hard? Warriors have 0 self heal and shit rage regen
>>583685698>Paladins woflsbane 2h swords procc is so ridiculously overpoweredit only works against certain types of creatures tho
>>583685876The nerf was completely unjustified.
>>583685662maybe because you're crusading for nerfs against it in the one version of the game's entire lifespan where it was strong, you would be crying too if whatever expansion you want blizzard to rush to suddenly gimped your class at the behest of spiteful mind raped faggots who won't even be playing the game
>>583685824Deathknight was boring as fuck in wotlk. I played a DK tank in Legion and it was kinda fun in the retarded way as you're immortal and then you have 3 different cooldowns to make you even more immortal. I guess every other tank was exactly the same.
>Be warrior>Forget to take my estrogen and dilate>Go online and moan about how hard I have it>Get one (1), ((singular)), (((uno))) dungeon blue>One shot an npc my level with overpower
I play warrior not because I like it, in fact I find it pretty boring, but because it's the most down to earth no magic Mary sue bullshit class
>>583685894>he can tell the difference between ukkie and ruskieYou must be the latter then.
>>583685945No thats the thing it works for ALL enemy types
>>583684694>When Jaina finally nukes Org
>>583685834nothing in wow classic is hard in terms of mechanicsthe hard classes are hard cause it's extremely tedious and boring to level them to 60
>>583685987HERE IS YOUR THREE SWORD OF A THOUSAND TRUTHS QUESTLINE SIR
>>583685894I can’t remember the name but there was a Hohol that ran one of the more popular YouTube clip channels during 2019 classic. Killed him in AV once lol. He stopped uploading after the war had been going for a while. Wonder if he got droned.
For me?Skyborne Hunter
>>583685987hell yeah monwarrior strong together mon>>583686056dis is my home you're talking about mon
>>583685980> you would be crying too if whatever expansion you want blizzard to rush to suddenly gimped your class at the behest of spiteful mind raped faggots who won't even be playing the gameKek, you’ll get used to it lil gup. t. enhance shaman
>>583685980who's crusading for nerfs? all they did was try to normalize rage. all they said was the infinite gains that were possible are an unmanageable class mechanic that disrupts endgame scaling and the balance necessary to keep every raid from just stacking more browns. you're reacting to an improvement and being a fucking baby because you're only kings of AOE physical damage now, instead of kings of all physical damage.
>>583684390doesnt help that there can be 3 or 4 after the jump, or 0ive jumped with 6/7 and gotten fucked before
>>583685987true. also the only class where every individual gear upgrade feels good and impactful. even my bracers and belt make me stronger. whereas on a caster you never use your weapon and your armor doesn't matter because you won't get hit. a warrior is their equipment, other classes just use equipment as stat sticks
>layersIs there a single fan of these?
>>583685907I have leveled a warrior right after hunter eveyr expac and I promise you warrior leveling is overblown by three magnitudes.Now when I play a rogue I want to kill myself.
>they want to allow shamans to tank>remove the shield talentWHY
Warriors need rage on crit, on hit and being hit and blockOtherwise you stand around doing nothing for 80% of the fight
>>583686375is there a single retard who thinks they will get rid of them?
Didn't they say we'd get legacy points to dick around with?Is the legacy tree a hoax? Just a big fat LIE?
>>583686375poggers in the layer
>>583686386Rogue has so much utility Equip slow sord and fast axe/swordUse the 20% more aps and you delete everything
>>583686395> they want to allow shamans to tankThe devs have never actually said that. It’s Reddit fiction.
>>583686430Get to lvl 25
Why are shamans such cry babies?
>>583686265ohh it's the nigger jeet with the cringe slangthey send you in when they can't derail the general with the pedophiles lolyou're so robotic, maybe change the script up
>>583685980>brown sissoid enraged that he isnt allowed to win at character creation again
Why are paladins such cry babies?
>>583686525they have to cope with bricking their char at the creation screen somehowfucking dogshit class, it's a walking melee buff chain heal machine
>>583686386The dreaded Classic Warrior in HC was much easier and cleaner than leveling a rogue in Forever.Maybe I just played differently, certainly a bit slower.
>>583686525Nice try brown boy lol
>>583685539Make one for our ERP addict troons
>>583686572>the cringe slang>>583686572>you're so robotic, maybe change the script up
>>583686572Someone didn’t take his meds today lol
>>583686429The usage of them fucking sucks.>rare spawns disappears when groups form to kill them>WPVP suffers greatly from them>interactions have a chance to be cut short from layersThey need to fix them.
>>583685651Shut up booster shitskin.This game is for us slow takers
The classes that cry the most are Shamans, Mages and Warriors. All get mandated raid spots because they are needed in raids for multiple reasons. Why are you fags crying about stats at level fucken 30?
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/mcdonalds-australia-offering-in-game-rewards-and-game-time-with-rewards-points-383261
>>583685980Why you bringing up rogues? This was about Warriors.
>>583686743they wont and you will still play
hes right you know
>>583685981No that's bdk in anything but the top 1% content where it gets 2 shotted and dies.
>>583685423>it's hard if you die. most of you get filtered by paladin due to autism and lack of patience
>>583686868Explain
>>583686743They're certainly working a bit oddly. Like why the fuck do I change layer when I invite a guy that's on the same layer as I am.
>>583686832You WILL engage with the World, dungeon cucks.
>>583686281>>583686578won't even be playing the game, but has hourly panic attacks because this place is more active than the two other brown subhuman shit hole generals, gotta deflect from having skin the color of poo, subhuman IQ settled on warriors cause their units frames are brownthirty more days of getting your shit pushed in, niggers
>>583686868>filtered by OP meleeAre you, mentally, retarded
>>583686265Classic warriors are just spoiled.t. Retail prot warrior
>>583686832>an autist went to the WoW forums to post thisThat’s how you know they are a neet
>>583686832>nooo you have to let me pay brown people to skip me to endgame noooo>how will I ever recover if I cant pay a third worlder to skip straight to endgame nooooo
>the single 2 best pvp abilities in the game are probably death coil and fear>warlock has them both
GIVE FURY WARRIORS DW 2x2HHOLY FUCK
>>583683372There should be a language test to be able to switch it
>>583686182Tauren sun worship suddenly makes a lot more sense.
>>583686832He is right, they solved boosting alreadyIf paladins pull too many mobs, they get perma stunned through bubble, and mobs become immune to slows and teleport to you. Mobs even give you 0 exp if a person 6 levels above you is in the party
>>583686868Not anymore. Paladins feel so much better to play now and you won't have any time to download porn during a fight.
>>583685357Based troll horde enjoyer
>>583686395They said the OPPOSITE.Still half your talent are tank adjacent lol
>>583686972Ever since TBC Prot was never the same. I forgot who was the designer but he openly admitted to hating Warriors and then proceeded to nerf them to the ground for years.
>>583687010>the single 2 best pvp abilities in the game are probably death coil and fearIf you're horde maybe
>>583686832NOOOOOOO HE IS WROOOOOOONNNGGGGGFETCH QUESTS ARE "SOOOOOOULFUUUUL", THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF CLAAAASSIC AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEI already gave up on wow forever, I'm not gonna play it, I'm already too disappointed and at this point I don't think blizzard can or will do anything right to reel me back in.
What addons are you guys using in the beta?
>>583686826We will check it out for sure. But will we check it out forever? Nah. Dead within a year.
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/olympus-guilds-in-wow-forever-%E2%80%94-mass-recruitment-forced-participation-toxic-community/630300FUCKING KEK
>>583686916>caged little brown sissoid claims he wont be playing unless he gets his wayGet used to disappointment, sissy. Put on the dress and heal the real classes or throw yourself off thunder bluff.
>>583686375They're amazing now that they smartly organize players by play style.Been lmaoing hard at all the self-reporters crying on socials about how they're surrounded by antisocial griefers and ninjas.You made your layer, now sleep in it.
>muttoids woke up
>>583686832He is right. It is all about the journey.
>>583686832Truth TSAR BOMMMMMBAAAA!!!
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/news/new-anti-boosting-mechanics-from-enemies-inside-dungeons-on-burning-crusade-327973Boosting was solved 4 years ago on TBC Classic.Blizzard just doesn't want you in dungeons at all. You will level your alts in the world, forever. Even if it takes you months and your first 60 required you to take paid holiday from work.
>>583687152tell us you're russian without telling us
>440+ replies in blizz forums on olympuslmaoooooo
>>583686525cause we didn't get sex goats
>>583686395Shammies will be able to tank 5mans up to a point, same as classic. CL is still crazy good as a pulling tool for aggro.
>>583686857I guess I only did Heroic raids and 15 keys. The DK was my alt after all.
>>583687128Didn’t blizzard go nuclear on addons? What happened with that?t. only installs damage meter and atlas loot
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/retribution-paladin-pvp-feedback-we-need-tools-to-actually-play-the-game/633999
>>583687221I didn't read any of that shit but the answer is no. Enhancement shaman exists to drop WF for the raid. You will be bottom of the dps meters where your hybrid ass belongs.
>>583687216>nooo boosting was fixed already noooo>just ignore that boosting still exists in even tbc anniversary nooo>how will the third world ever survive without my rmt gold to sell back to me at a slight markup that I agree to because it makes me feel rich nooooo
These are the people that are ruining wowfThey just want to turn the game into another era without any change
>>583686909Agreed!*Hyperspawn farms**Gets ahead**Pulls the ladder**Turns you into a perma ganked perma excluded cucktoy*
>>583686462>Beefed out mail, fat fucking two hander with overpower.>Shitty meme leather gear that makes you paper, class based on backstab that can't actually backstab, dual wield miss rateI have pulled 3 mobs as a warrior and cleaved them down without CDs. As a rogue when that happens I pop sprint and just run away.
>>583687272>>583686395Fucked up the formatting Tier 1>shield talent from vanilla is backTier 2>stoneskin and windfall totems now reduce damage taken by melee and ranged by 5%>talent increases it to 7.5/10%Tier 3>earth shield is backThat's it. That's fucking it
are private server fags still assblasted?
>>583686885immediate gratification and constant engagement are powerful subconscious forces which dictate your behavior. >>583687067just heal these thirteen dungeons for me real quick and i'll let you play ret one time. also you're not getting an eye, but maybe you can get some people together to farm it next expansion.
wow forever will launch with only fake hype from shills and the sad people that are obsessed with it not flopping and then it'll flop horribly and be complete dead in only 2 monthsthere is a reason they are launching it 2 weeks before gta 6, it's because they know it's DoA
>>583687319Warriors are hybrids. Enjoy the hybrid tax, sissy. We PUREBVLLS will make sure your new healer main gets put to good use :^)
>>583687286I know they nuked raid addons but I have no clue if they went after anything else
How is feral druid not the most OP open world pvp class?>stealth>good burst in cat form>can go bear to be tanky vs melee>has stun>has roots>can self heal>can run away/chase>has gap closer in cat form now>removes curses and poisons
>>583687087It's okay we got to be OP In classic and 3 M+ seasons of high imbalance (warrior at 70%) before it got fixed (VDH, PPal or BDK at 99% usage, taking turns like good boys).
>>583687412>I have pulled 3 mobs as a warrior and cleaved them down without CDsLarp
>>583687431>>583687272>>583686395Shamans are shit. I'm not reading this. You're here to drop Windfury totem and that's it. Get fucked faggots. You're a trash class played by trash people.
>>583687547Okay, you're just shit
>>583685351>these irl orcs will play on EU, with english social language enabled.Holy fucking grim.
>>583687454Yes. All they had to do was copy turtle wow and make tent xp give 150% xp instead of 200% and they would have ~1 million players two years after launch.
>>583687486The fuck are you on about? Paladin is the best melee plate class there is rn
>>583687498theres a reason theres no planned updates for it and a classic fresh on the horizon
>>583687367Removing charging in combat is retarded
Someone should make a list of good to have addons and put it in the OP
>>583687498>fake hype>the beta has more players than any AAA release in yearsYour meltdowns when Forever finally flushed the retoilet and renders Pandas extinct will be legendary.
>>583687272Shamans will never tank and your class should be deleted because it's only played by faggots like you
>>583687592>no argument>y-you're shitLMAO
>>583685847its not hard, priest solos all the elite quests while levelling, you wont wand the second you hit shadow form either than mana reduction is insane
>>583685894russia is losing btw
>>583687679the beta was literally free with a purchase of a big mac and everyone loves mcdonalds
>>583687276That's just Bdk balance, if you know wtf you are doing you got 100% control over your own existence (tank design in general, except warrior who just dies really slowly and needs heals).In turbo high end, because of how it is designed, bdk just gets 2 shotted.Bdk was also really, really strong in legion.
>>583687128platynatorquestiemidnight tooltipauctionatorbaginatorlutrix mapremove blizzard bug report thingy
>>583687616Freshfags are unreal. Just play the fucking game.
>>583687703>larp is an argumentWhat was there to prove? Killing 3 mobs isn't outlandish and you're just shit.
>>583687454Kind of, I'm looking to play forever but the more we learn the more I don't want to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rp6jn28KMc
>>583687679the beta has 1/6th of the players aion 2 has, they literally had to condense the entire population into ONE realm so people aren't stuck in dead servers
>>583687737>bUt iT wAs FrEeThis isnt the EPIC GAMER MOMENT you hoped itd be.
Why do shamans upset him so much?
>>583687296>yet another we have this weakness you must fix it
>>583687516you do almost no damage and go out of mana when you try to heal, which is necessary because every class does plenty of ticking damage to drain you down. there's a reason every decent druid plays a balance spec, or plays as if they were a balance spec when they're feral and forced into pvp. kite and rot if possible, but since it's hybrid meta, you should probably just run away. the truth is nothing makes people madder than just casually and effortlessly getting away from them.
>>583687751>needing addons in a 20 year old mmo How dog shit are you in raids?
Did Blizzard blow their load too early by showing all this extra shit they added?Day 1 launch magic has entirely evaporated.
If PvP isn't this intense, then it's not serious:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_k2bTXjrtQIn Classic, a duel can last up to 10 fucking minutes because everyone has CC that lasts at least 30 seconds, and you can keep resetting the fight.WoW Forever isn't a PvP game. Balance should be focused solely on levelling and endgame PvE.
>>583687902kys but not until you licky my sweaty balls, nigger retard
>beta is cross region>less than 50 people in the LFG tool looking to do any dungeon?
>>583687902lets see your parses
>>583687914>we learned some things from SoDbut completely ignored the magic of the community discovering things on live
>>583687943You should take a shower then.
>583687914>all this extra shitSuch as? We can access not even a third of the total game.>but I wanna doompost for (You)s :(Thats why I didnt give you one.
>>583687914The original beta went to 15 and only lasted like a week.
>>583687943Post hands and classYou sound like a jeet
>>583687501
>>583687914No? They also showed a plethora of issues and shittery, it was always going to be an issue. They didn't even plan to have SD models to begin with, imagine the seething that would have caused
>>583688016or else what, faggot? lmfao
>>583688009I can't imagine being terrified of replying to someone directly lmaoKWAB
>>583687887the thumbnail almost looks like the troll sucker punching the raptor in the face
>SAAR!!! SAAAR IF YOU COMPLAIN YOU ARE BOOSTER YOU ARE BENCHOD SAAR!! YOU WILL NOT BOOST!!>Meanwhile, actual UI>Straight up "offering boost (carry)"HahahahhHahahahFell for it again!
>>583687902>le 20 year old gamepost your logs
>>583688027>b-but must sim...Stay sad. Stay mad. Stay bad. Enjoy that hybrid tax.
all this warrior dooming is making me lean more towards warlock
>>583688038>They also showed a plethora of issues and shitteryYou mean soul. Games can't have soul now.
>>583688049Why do Indian men hold hands in public?
>>583687997delusional and demonstrably incorrect. there is no way that arms or fury is even close to as efficient, as comfortable, or as easy as prot warrior. and that's a good thing
>>583687795lone wolf melee hunter is the gayest shit. literally just a warrior. no identity at all.
@583688009Two can play at that game
>>583688027So why are the hybrid warriors crying then if they're the best in pure simulations?
>>583688157https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfDA24XaFnw
>>583688027>elemental in its own tier
turtle wow and aion2 fags are assblasted lol
>>583687516they are incredibly in 2-4 player skirmishes
>>583688192>theorycrafting 30-60 on a level 30 capped beta >listen, let me tell you why it's going to be exactly the opposite of what it is.. lolololol
>>583688140God, stop coping. Yes, some are fun soul things but most things have showed how inadequate the devs are and the lack of resources blizzard is pouring into the game
>>583688027Elemental bros what went wrong
>>583687914they're fixing the game, changing how major systems work, i don't see how they could have hid this stuff and revealed it on launch in a playable state without showing it off
>>5836882052nd lowest is 30% higher dpslmao
>583688074>NOO YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME A (YOU) IF YOU DONT THAT MEANS YOURE SCARED>PLS FALL FOR THIS ATTEMPT AT EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION AND GIVE ME A (YOU) I DONT GET THE VALIDATION I DESPERATELY CRAVE WITHOUT THEM>>583688186Because theyre lying trying to fish for more buffs so they can be OP and thumb their noses at everyone laughing at them. Thats it. Thats their big plan.
>>583688164Survival has always been a wtf tree for hunters. I remember in beta stress test vanilla we didn’t even have a completed talent tree. Then on release hunters had Lacerate as the 31 talent point
>>583688009Meant for >>583687914 sorry I'm new here I don't know how this quote thing works I found this place linked in Reddit>>583688175Meant for >>583688009
>>583688186warriors aren't crying, it's the hybrids that are crying warriors are still on top.
>>583688027AIIIIIIIEEEE SAVE ME, NIGGERMANOur guild just released a roster and basically said we need more shamans. Even fucking 20 man requires 3 shamans at least and fucking Ele is absolute garbage. No one wants to play boomkin ESPECIALLY when the best talent build is to avoid moonkin form all together.
>>583687795>omg check out this ranged ret stratholme build i found.>200000 dps. >this is real guys no jokeeasy clicks, you're welcome.
>>583688307a melee hunter should at least have a pet to have their own identity. without a pet it's just a boring warrior.
>583688321Oh this delusional cope is delicious.
>absolutely mogged by aion 2its over
>>583688321>warriors aren't cryingNow that's a lie. Tears are flowing down their brown faces like waterfalls.
>>583687091Imagine playing a warlock on alliance
>>583688378I can't be assed to play shaman.>compete with warrior for weapons if enh>compete with paladin for weapons if eleBetter hope there are a lot of druid tanks there won't be otherwise no one is inviting you to groups.
>>583687963Tank shortage as usual?
>2 weeks ago if you said warriors are a hybrid class youd be laughed out of the thread and called a retard nigger for good measure>retard dev says warriors are hybrids in podcast>suddenly this has been a common knowledge all this timeretarded dad boomeroids are a plague
>>583674907Can't believe they hung my girl Barny like that.
>>583684992There are changes tho
>>583688437not trying to take any sides here i hate wow forever as well but isn't aion one of those korean chinese mmos that gets released every few months that break the charts but end up dying shortly after?
>>583688437That boobsize slider got me interested.
>>583687963You are supposed to enjoy the open world not play dungeon
>>583686775do you think i can spoof geolocation and get the rewards as a yuropoor?
>a level 1 wolf in northshire valley gives more exp than a dungeon mob
>>583688502actually warriors are old news, the class doing the most crying lately is magesmaybe update your scriptif you want to be even more current it was shamans and shadow priests, but hardly anyone plays that class or specialization
>>583688640Good.
>>583688027>tier list>for a non-existant endgamethese people have the worst kind of autism.
>>583688595it is
>>583688561>noooo its the devs that are retarded>im not a hybrid nooo im not i cant be i cant be i like DPS and TANKING with ONR gearset and I deserve to be the BEST at BOTH at the SAME TIME>that doesnt make me a hybrid that's just warrior nooooooLolLMAO
>>583688557Yep. Complete tank shortage and nerfing warriors just makes it worse.
>>583687914Optimism dried up once people saw it was going to be another case of Horde getting all the handouts and every server ratio garunteed to be 30:70If you're playing Alliance in Favoritism Forever then your only options for world content are to fish or be ganked.I choose to fish.
>>583687963were all 30 unc
>>583688692being the best dps is the reward for tanking
>>583688258i'd look for them to be super competitive but week one of raids. most obvious spec that needs to be addressed, so it will probably be OP before you know it.
>>583688671Mages have definitely been crying. Due to nobody playing shaman or spriest, the lake of tears is mostly filled by warriors.
I just wanna 2h bonk but i'm deprived of rage to even do anything
>>583688783Everyone seems to forget the absolute cluster fuck which is enhancement shaman one shotting people late game and I can't wait for the tears.
>>583688719Impressive there is healers at all with how brutal dungeon changes are for them.That said, don't worry, redditors and 4channers said they'd keep tanking and healing even with the nerf! And they wouldn't lie!!
>>583688542It's gonna get disgusting. Every guild will require at least 4-5 shamans. Feral will see some play but boomkin will be excluded from everything again and resto will be the only way to raid. I can only imagine how bad it will be on the alliance side with this shaman requirement. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS DOGSHIT COMPANY THINKING?Yeah, you don't have 29 warriors in a raid now, but the meme specs are still a meme and now there's a ballbulsting shaman requirement on almost EVERY SINGLE fucking group
>>583688640I have always quested.I've done so despite it not being the best exp.I accepted that and let other people play the game how they want even if they hate how tedious it actually is and they are just dungeon blasting because it's mindless and easy.Now that they can not dungeon spam, they will actually quest because it gives more exp. Even though they preferred to dungeon grind, which they still can, but will not anymore because it is suboptimal.It's the inverse of the meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig95zXJTSGU
>>583687963hm, what's this? a tank shortage? 10 gold? heh, don't mind if i do..
>>583688719I can't balaast if I have to tank. I'm a bit sad that they made 2h tanking awful even in low level dungeons. In Classic I could've just easily tanked any instance up to BRD without problems, maybe I'd have to occasionally equip a shield.
REMINDER 5 man pally only will be world first raid completionists
>>583674907If a party has a primary healer resto shaman would brining a discipline priest be a huge downgrade compare to being a mage or something for dungeons (just don't want to be shooting my party in the foot)
>>583688898questing was always better exp than dungeon levelling, both were worse than hyperspawns and mobtagging
>>583688898questing has always been the best exp
>>583688561classic war is so broken it's a hybrid class that is practically referred to as two pure DPS/Tank classesit's been talked about extensively you're just new
>>583688858Healers are used to putting on the dress. They accept their fate when they pick their class.
>>583688898>Suboptimal It was always sub optimal.With mobs giving 10-20 XP it is impossible you dumb nonce.
>>583688939>I'm a bit sad that they made 2h tanking awful even in low level dungeons.my single most favorite change.
>>583688740launch will be a disaster at this rateeveryone will try to zug onto the pvp server and you'll have maybe 5 minutes before horde character creation slams shutthen you're gonna have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of players sitting there staring at a 'can't roll horde on this server' message... with no other pvp server optionsthe chimpout on social media will be biblical
>>583688751Not in Forever, sissy browntoid. You are a hybrid. A second class citizen. You are not allowed to be as good at anything as a PUREBVLL. You are basically a bug chasing faggot now. People look at you the same way they look at a plate of rotten food boiling with maggots. Youre a disgusting subhuman hybrid and you deserve to be terrible at everything you can do.And the developers even said so.
>>583689003GOOD bait
>50 kills of Kam and Dextren later using hunter pull bug>finally see a blue helm drop>wrong onehope they don't nerf this bug tomorrow because fuck doing this the normal way
>>583689081should have bought the name reservation, which is making the character on the faction you like early
>>583689083>Not in Forever, sissy browntoidYes, and this is why you'll be waiting 5 hours to get in a single dungeon group. Good luck with that prebis set.
YWNBAP(You Will Never Be A Puredps)
What class isnt crying atm
This thread is still up. About fucking time it slowed down. I like my general threads like I drink my wine. Slow and Plentiful.
>>583688891Do you truly need that many Shamans? Alliance Guilds completed the Raids just fine in Classic with no Shamans.
>>583689128this chase item shit is gonna be zestythere will be a lot of angst and HRing
>>583689207Hunter
>>583689080I guess it makes prot more appealing but at the same time I don't have a free entry to dungeons with good conscience. With Dualspec at 45 or something it of course won't make a difference.
5 druid boss runs only
>>583686395>>they want to allow shamans to tankNo they didn't, Aggrend laughed when asked why they removed the SoD exclusive specs.
>>583689180>Yes, and this is why you'll be waiting 5 hourspaladin and druids can tank in this version of the game and we have double spec, go play era, we'll be fine
Wait, it's just Retail Minus? And everyone already refunded?
>>583689180>waitingKekPlenty of Paladins and Druids that are actually good at their roles and have functional toolkits. Nobody needs disgusting brown hybrids. Orange and Pink ones work just fine and are actually useful unlike disgusting subhuman brownoids.You can pick up the shield and tank for the real classes or you can put on a dress and heal the real classes little hybrid brownoid sissy. No dps for you ever again :^)
>>583674907Save people in danger, offer help, give them an xp food, and offer them good luck. This is the kindpilled way. Ony and MC can be beaten with 20 people. It's ok to carry others!
>Just because I can tank>and just becuase I can DPS>And just because I am the best at both of them>Does NOT make my a hybrid, that's just being called a WARRIOR.>Now TAKE THIS HEALSLUT DRESS and be GOOD GIRL while I NEED on all the leather and mail dps items, that's your HYBRID tax for you!
>>583689207Rogues cry in stealth as they don't have capstone talents.
>>583688926>>583689289https://4chan.org/advertise
>>583689372>play paladin>shaman wants my spell damage shield>shaman wants my spell damage mace>shaman wants my neck/ring/trinketsWhy would I tank for a dps shaman? Put on the dress.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
MaleNight ElfWarriorRP rulesetNever RPing because all elf scenes are dominated by trannies and women
>>583689403ebin
>>583689430Good. Fuck rogueniggers. More insufferable than warriors.
>>583688242>they are incredibly in 2-4 player skirmishesBack to English class little eurothirdie.
>>583689253Hunters gonna be nerfd their pet damage is bugged currently
>>583689372paladins are saying they are getting absolutely destroyed by all the hunters, every non ranged class is getting blown up by the giant amount of hunters
>>583689357Didn't happen, pserf pajeet. Have a (You) to dry your tears on.
>>583689207Warlock Chads are feeling pretty good. Strong position but not so OP that We would be targeted for nerfs.
>>583689482I was thinking about RP but then I realized there are literally no raiding guilds on those servers.
>>583689550WL is kinda meh tho
>>583689539nta but blizz is obviously scrambling to reclaim lost preorders
>>583689207Frankly, I can't believe people are crying about, approximately, -5% dps. I thought it was memes at first but it turns out people are actually mad about it. Like feral druids saying it's not fair, while they get a 3% crit aura, battle rez, innervate, and a raid wide debuff in faerie fire.
>>583689474>tell the shaman to shut up because nobody plays elemental and resto wants healing not spell damageNothing personal, kid. Hey didnt you used to be a "dps" warrior lol. Glad you finally learned. Shut up and cast riptide and
>>583689272That's true, but you can still find groups, and you can always tank. This is a change that tanks love and healers love. DPS are unchanged, and when you play the high octane big numbers super fun spec, your only penalty is not getting the instant invites healers and tanks do for playing less zesty roles. You should be specced prot anyway because it is much faster leveling, even if you never do a dungeon. You kill 3-4 simultaneously all the time, you end every fight with full HP or two ticks of a bandage from full HP, and you have 10 different automatic get away free plays if anything ever goes south. Fury and Arms are cucked slaves compared to this.
the hybrid spam. poster is insanely mentally ill. Do you know how much of a retard you are? 100% no way you've ever had sex
>>583689602Era parsefags need to get wow forever banns unironially
>>583689550I think lock is gonna be pretty weak in pvp, but I'm not crying because no one will care
>>583689506
dungeon xp nerf is goodhybrid tax is goodthese are what actual nillaheads want and the 2019 classic andys that larp as nost vets don't matter
>>583689520As intended. :^) man with gun is always going to be the best spec :^)
>>583689512Everyone is going to play lone wolf anyway so it doesn’t matter.
World of Huntercraft
>>583689625B-but I want to bonk with big axe :(
>>583689737bullshit, pet scale and have incredible spells, pretty lone wolf is gonna be shit outside of niche raids
I will play druid like my daddy soda and have one feral spec and one balance/resto hybrid spec and do everything
>>583689737The problem with lone wolf is 20% might unironically make it a straight dps loss vs just having a completely unmanaged pet. I think the hunter pet accounts for like a third of a hunter's total damage.
>>583689653>two people, from two seperate classes, can't be making fun of me at the same time for being a retard>that's IMPOSSIBLE
>>583689828If that's you you do you. I love prot warrior, I've always hated fury and arms, which is probably why none of this is bothering me.
>>583689737yup lone wolf sims better right now, BM is the worst spec
Class for this feel?
>>583686832They hated him because he spoke the truth.The anti boosting narrative for the XP nerf is nonsense because they have like 3 different mechanics for this already in place since classic (extreme XP penalty when someone in the grp has grey mobs, mobs perma stun through immunity once combat lasts long enough, mobs immune to snare/slow and start speeding up).This only punishes regular players.
>>583689981Nigga that's a whole dungeon group not one class
>>583689840>>583689850At level 30 sure but not at 60.
>>583690030Ok, but what class has fire-breathing dogs?
>>583690098core hounds hunter pet
>>583689506getting roadblocked by a minor typo and needing to point it out is classic ESL behaviorblud probably quadruple checked his reply before clicking Post too lmao
>>583690020>This only punishes regular players.It makes 0 difference to regular players. You run instance once and be on your way.
>>583689850Lone wolf worked like this in SoD too. Pet damage is always greater than the % they award from the talent. Fortunately they will nerf pets to being useless soon after launch so you won't need to worry about it
>>583690020It doesn't punish regular players at all since quest runs still give good xp.
el bandito...
>>583690020>nooo you cant fix boosting>youre supposed to let boosting stay untouched noo>how will I ever recover now that I cant pay a third worlder to bussyboost me to endgame?>noo blizz you dont understand im super important I cant be expected to actually play the game I pay to play monthly thats insane>I demand to be allowed to pay third worlders to do everything for me so I can lie about them doing it for me and claim I did it all myself
Can I talk about Classic/Era here?
>>583676123They're right. They need to balance it in the way that every class does big DMG and big heals
>>583690125Huh. I thought the core hounds in SoD were just reskinned wolves, never knew they had lava breath.
>>583690020Even back in vanilla I only ever did a dungeon once unless I didn't finish all the quests in the first run. Farming dungeons for exp is retarded
>>583686832He's actually right though. They already solved boosting. They're doing this to kill dungeons completely to force everyone into a singular rigid leveling experience.
>>583689981I can see a druid, human priest, human paladin, orc female warrior and a dwarf warrior.
>>583690191right now the sheer amount of attack speed survival gets dual wield melee with lonewolf is outparsing everything by a large margin, the white damage is insane
>>583690204undead should get a debuff for being outside of their homeland
>>583690201>>583690176Did you never run a dungeon more than once for some XP/Gear to break up the monotony of questing?
I really want to play tank and healer pally on the horde, but the thought of seeing trillions of the same guys out there like you gives me the icky
If all streamers are going horde why shouldn't I go alliance and make clip compilants of me killing them?
>>583690514>>583690514>>583690514>>583690514here you go tranny niggers, you can go back to dilating
>>583690461Well the neat part is that 90% of them are going to be ret-ards and will end up rerolling when they realize they have to heal/tankSo you're fine
>>583690419No, you're only allowed to play like how I want. Which is solo questing only.
>>583690419Yeah sure I've sometimes ran dungeons for gear over the years.I don't think I repeated a dungeon a single time with my latest HC character if I didn't have quests left there.
>>583690419Why would I do that when I can just move on to the next dungeon with new quest rewards?Only reason I can see to spam a dungeon is for twink gear.
>>583690341>bro like check it out bro>my last jenkem binge showed me the truth man>so like check it out bro, they make all these dungeons with mobs and bosses with mechanics and a bunch of quests and stuff bro>but then check it out man, I saw this when I was hypoxic from huffing shit fumes like a jeet man>they DONT want people to touch them bro>yeah bro>like ever>they spent all that time and money making them and I THINK they want nobody to touch them ever>yeah thats it>but they dont remove them cuz... idk reasons I guess man>pass the dick shaped bong i think I felt a sliver of reality get thru>cant have that>light the balls for me bro
>>583688378How did they manage to make ele and boomkin even more of a dogshit memespec than in vanilla
The barrens is basically just the gaza strip if you think about it.
>>583690267Nigger use your fucking ears. We don't care if they nuke brown thirdies off the face of the planet, they already have mechanics to stop boosting.I fucking love Classic dungeons because they're dripping with atmosphere. I once spent 6 hours in WC because no one in my group had any clue where to go and we were exploring as we went along. I like SFK, I like SM, I don't want to hand in 6 more bear asses, I want to explore a castle and loot the chests. Drooling retards like yourself just keep typing the same inane shit and ignoring what people are ACTUALLY saying, it's ridiculous.Read, nigger, read!
new thread
>>583690869
>>583691054>retoilet
>>583690557>>583690943
>>583691054Yes we all know that the Horde are the real movers and shakers of the setting and the Alliance are kind of shiftless and static because they are the archetypal enlightened medieval fantasy race coalition. Honestly I'm surprised Taurajo even made it to live.
>>583691054KEK!>>583691130Horde victim complex is very much a thing in Forever as well, tourist
>>583691194lol no.we need real new thread
>>583691054lol nobody visist 80% of those places
>>583689897I haven't posted anything about it you schizophrenic retard. Serious mental issues and no sex is not a good look
>>583691054>picI don't get it
>>583688640>fighting a wolf alone with your bare hands gives more exp than beating up some miner with a group of friendsgood
>>583682993in 2 months my boomer guild probably won't even have a single level 60 lmao. sucks to suck.
pandering to chuds was the wrong move. they would have played even if they were angry. they already bought second beta keys. instead blizzard just expelled most of the employed playerbase and is only left with smug neckbeard losers.
>>583694545uh oh retoilet seethe
>>583689128did they really remove that skin tone from dwarf because the modern models don't have it?? that skin + red eyes was my favorite
>>583674907Is this image real? I can't imagine Blizzard doing this.
