>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.November 4thPrevious Thread>>583794042
>>583810514trannies ruined this game
What do we think of the Shaman changes?
>>583810821Enh and resto are good. Ele got raped and gaped. The fact that THE iconic ele shaman spell chain lightning sucks is so fucking gay.
>>583810973You VILL use the lava burst
>>583810821>>583810973Trust the plan, nature is in control.Shamans will be BUSTED, and MUST PLAY on release.
>Call of Thunder: Moved from the row 3 down to row 4, and now has Elemental Alacrity as a pre-requisite. This talent is now the 16-point gold medal talent, granting 3% increased critical strike chance to Lighting Bolt and Chain Lightning.Gee, don't make the exclusive ultra-rare holographic foil gold medal shaman talent too exciting, someone might have a heart attack.
chuddie meltie
how do i lose weight while playing forlo
>3 threads>2 with the same spammed opmental illness
>>583810973elemental mastery is also gone, the entire reason to play shaman is dead
did aggrend cook today?
>>583826928stop eating
how do I kill boars faster in WoW Forever?
>>583834646sword of a thousand truths.
Posting in the correct thread, patch downloading now.
>>583834646Troll monBeastslaying
>>583838405Servers still aren't up, sadly
>>583838812Made this mistake of reading the blizzard forums while looking for patch notes. Jesus cinnamon titty fucking christ they are so fucking whiny about everything aren't they?
>>583810514Let me get this straight. Dungeon xp nerfs are currently at 25% effectiveness, and, with optimal dungeon running, ie spellcleave, is apparently close to optimal questing, ie RestedXP. How was optimal dungeon running not obviously better than optimal questing at 100% dungeon xp?
This is the thread.
>>583839225>How was optimal dungeon running not obviously better than optimal questing at 100% dungeon xp?It was. Why do you think everyone spammed dungeons to level in classic?
>non-shadow priests just got meganerfedfucking why
>>583839308You're not allowed to have fun
>>583839268Almost everyone is saying that "questing was always faster." I know it's a gaslight, but where is this coming from? Just hunter top speed runs?
>>583810821path notes?
this one
>>583839225In classic the best way to level by far was to have a mage aoe clear all the trash and reset, the exp/hour you got vastly outpaced anything elseThey're trying to make it to where that isn't the case in forlo
>>583826928caloric deficit and exercise.
I'm posting in this thread, fuck the attention-whoring faggot
Do you think now that dungeon spamming (ostensibly) is being nerfed so more ppl will actually be in the open world the oldschool open world pvp raids will become vogue again? Things like taking over Xroads for a few hours or 10-man rogue+druid group wreaking havoc in Stormwind?
REMOVE ALL RACIALS
>>583834646X'caliboar will apparently do bonus damage to boars and quilboars in Forever.
Will anything in Vanilal WoW make me shit my pants in terror as a healer?
why is everyone so mean to me :(
>>583839376Other than mage. And maybe hunter which might be better off solo leveling due to their inherent power.
i choose this one im not partaking in the obsession
>>583839225In other versions of the game dungeon running was best, which is why people spammed dungeons and got boosted in dungeons.
>>583839121actually mentally ill. does not sleep. wakes up to post this. methed up freak
>hunters BUFFEDso they have negative IQ over at blizzard?why shouldn't I just roll a hunter to spam a ranged stun on every player I see (along with half the server)
>penance gets an absolutely, undeniably 100% deserved nerf>I can't believe this is happening... why does Blizzard hate fun?
>>583838702They were already able to get an UD horse from Strath and now this. Does the Horde have any cool new mount to get? I wish I could at least grind the Winterspring Frostsaber.
Be honest lads, would you?
so uhhh where are the patch notes?
>>583839576Can a brother get a link to the patch changes?
>>583839440Most people in these threads and everyone on reddit are happy they can dungeon grind to 60 now.
>>583839308>Rape priests if they don't spec DPS by completely gimping dungeon XP>Rape them again so they can't farm quest mobsTruly makes you wonder
>>583839497>>583839417>>583839367>>583839267Then continue to do your part and ignore the spammer's early threads spamming the same image in the future
So, is there any point in NOT leveling as shadow spec as a priest now? Healing dungeons should still be very doable in shadow spec since most early disc/holy talents give fuck all to buff healing
>>583839576tbf, most hunters are absolute mouthbreathing retards so they need all the help they can get
>>583826928Just stop eating. You want any muscle gone too for femboy summer next year
>>583839483no they took out blood fury giving you reduced healing so your tank no longer will spam that shit on cd and blame you for when he dies
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-8/2360696/4notes up you're welcome
Jokes on him, I was only pretending to be retarded.
>>583839646I mean leveling Shadow was the way to do it in classic too (aside from taking the 5 points in wanding pre-40) and yeah you can do fine healing while leveling as shadow since unlike other healers you don't even have to keep a different set of gear for healing
>>583839576>>583839661There's plenty of tards out there living kick ass lives
Who's the faggot at Blizzard responsible for trying to turn everyone of their games into a competitive Esport? Why are they balancing for some faggot tournament?
>>583839476The fact blizzard not only keeps racials in the game but doubles down on them proves they are RACIST hypocrites
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-8/2360696/5
>>583826928Fuck bro I'm eating cookies right now and you make me feel bad about it
>>583839606>flying sonsSure why not?
>>583839576Not only are hunters universally bad at the game while having one of the strongest classes, they also complain the loudest.
>>583839440No will just largely solo quest grinding which is much less attractive, social, immersive etc.Bravo blizzard
i genuinely dont know which class to play for forever.i am gonna do hardcore mode mostly and i want the maximum amount of fun. I dont mind if they are challenging but i want to maximize pure fun. which class?
Will he make it as a streamer THIS time? Will he overcome the constant trolls talking about his height, kangaroo fetish, and the level 17 hunter? Tune in to the next episode of Manlet with BPD Z!
blizz notes out: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-8/2360696/4
>>583839514Ok, well most people were saying that questing was always faster which I thought couldn't be possible together than maybe a perfect RestedXP follow with all items prepared and maybe including a summon or 2.
>Using the /fart emote sometimes sprays blood out of your ass if you sat too long at a campfire.yikes
>>583839636You're the ones thread splittingYou started this
>>583839903You are wrong. Being in open world means you can be engaged in pvp. Being engaged in pvp makes you less likely to quit the game. Unironically.
>>583839767>Minor Wizard Oils now sells for 1s.They raped my launch day money making scheme...
>>583839852>Healthstone cooldown cannot be tracked.The absolute state of Claude
>free Legacy points to test shit outso what are we betting will be the most OP?
>>583840094My scheme is pretty simple and I will not post it anywhere. The hint is that launch month will have a magnitude of more players than even beta.
>>583840164+rep and +honor
Legacy points shouldn't be capped.
>>583840164Most OP at level 30 will be the 5 extra talents, at level 60 it will be 10% honor and reputation
>bandarion keep and quests in that area increased in levelWell yeah, I nearly skipped the whole paladin questline because I went there late
>>58384026916 is such a shit low number too, you can't get any good shit"forever" my ass
>Fixed an issue where Cat Form was reducing your maximum health.>Bear Form and Dire Bear Form: Threat bonus increased to 50% from 30%.>Predatory Instincts: This talent has been renamed “Natural Instinct” and now also increases spell healing by 12/25% of Intellect.All good but >The base damage of Thorns has been returned to the Vanilla WoW values and the spell power ratio has been reduced to 6% (was 13.3%).As a bear I want my thorns to be good, why can't my thorns be good as a bear if I have all my gear built for being a bear?
It's really funny to me that everyone likes to repeat the fantasy that "everyone just spammed dungeons in classic to level" when it was obviously a fairly small group of people paying gold to level alts. There was some dead area in certain level brackets where dungeon XP was the only way to get 1 and a half bars but it wasn't as persistent as these retards keep repeating. I'm convinced they're just parroting shit.
>>583840164It's objectively talented, getting talent points starting at level 5 is ridiculous.>>583840269>>583840379They said that they're going to add more trees too, I assume rewards for endgame content will be bonus points.
Is there an attunement for the new Dungeon? I thought I saw something posted, but it was a video so I ignored it.
Why do gnomes emanate so much sex bros?
Sky Elves won.
>The base damage of Retribution Aura has been returned to the Vanilla WoW values (about a 33% reduction) and the spell power ratio has been reduced to 6% (was 13.3%).damn
>>583840518
>>583839354Idiots who last played classic on HC where you literally couldn't dungeon spam.
>>583840434It's because they're all hot off of TBC where the objectively best way to play was to spam dungeons then do all of the quests you skipped for gold. They have recency bias.
They added discord voice chat to parties?!
>Truthseeker's Bow now level 40 reqWelp it was a good run. Good thing I didn't sell the quiilboar shooter
>>583840434To use the correct terminology, it was extremely rare in Vanilla. In Classic 2019, some faggots started spamming spellcleave. And nowadays, it seems that all of reddit wants to dungeon grind and half the people on these very threads.
So /wowfg/, who won and who lost with this patch?
>>583839606Who wouldnt?
Who wants to go to Dalaran City? (Horde PVP)/whisper Howler Silentheart
>all the hunters who farmed the level 40 bow from the book side quest got fucked overOh, that's hilarious
>>583839596Yes people are rightfully pissed that the 1 button priests where allowed to press besides wanding got nerfed. Devs shouldn't be balancing the game around fucking level 30 pvp.
>>583840434>It's really funny to me that everyone likes to repeat the fantasy that "everyone just spammed dungeons in classic to level" when it was obviously a fairly small group of people paying gold to level alts.We're talking about classic not the original launch and it wasn't a fantasy, absolutely everyone on the server would spam SM from 30-40 to skip that level bracket. You only wouldn't spam dungeons if you were some shitter class no one wanted to have in a dungeon.Whenever people wanted to level alts they would just pay a mage to boost them or have a friend do it for them or buy gold for it.
Sharded servers will make RP much harder in my opinion
>>583840518completely unattractive to me. I like Tall Woman. Short stacks do nothing for me at all. completely platonic.
>>583840694Genuine retarded fucking hunter brainAnyone that thought that the level requirement wasnt changing is a genuine braindead MORON
>just got homeIS WOW UP? WHAT IS THE DAMAGE?IS THE TALENTED LEGACY SPEC BUSTED AS EVERYONE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE?
>>583840487only if you are a noshoe nigga
dont forget 5/5 Talented asap
>>583840679She titmogs the blue skelf
>>583840946she's also hostile to everyone and just wants to kill you and eat you
>>583840834People who farmed exalted or whatever with the Desolace centaur clans are also getting fucked. I like it, fuck everyone involved in that stupid tournament.
servers up
>>583840840The nuked and raped everything. It's all fucked. Hunters are buffed and they took priests out to the rape shed and took turns forcefucking them into submission. Also now dungeon runs give you 1834xp per run instead of 1500xp and everyone is VERY EXCITED about it and they're nigjacking their basedholes all over twitch.tv.
Your party members for the dungeon sir.
>>583840787how it will be 1 shard with how low pop rp is
>>583840694>>583841029based blizz shitting on streamerfags
>>583841113Does your mother know you're like this
its up
>>583841019so a woman?
>>583839440everyone will just decline every invite to join a party and follow the le heckin rested xp arrow
>>583841168Me on the left
>>583841271me
you dont keep anything from the beta
>>583841168I'm not there because no one takes me into the dungeon
They already nerfed the quest rewards from dalaran dungeon, lmaothe wand got destroyed
I thought they were trolling but the servers are up, wow
>>583840946Shes got a big flock to feed
>>583841393Good
>>583841357roguebro...
>thread isn't using the hanged troon image
>organize bag button goneWHAT THE FUCK
>>583841674Yeah I am realizing how retarded I am without that button
>rogue untouchedTruly we are the most balanced class, the level by which every other class is measured as being overpowered or underpowered. Rogue can never be balanced because everything is balanced against Rogue
>>583810973you only think that out of pure fagtastic contrarianisminb4 seething and lying
>>583839476Add more racials!
Betalets status: behind the pack
I don't understand enhance. Does it want agi or str? Does it want sp at all?
>>583841674>people still playing without arkinventory in 2026damn
>>583841674Can Blizzard seriously not royally fuck up a bunch of things along with every update?
>up 30 points from yesterdayelebros!
>>583841810CHEEVOS!
>>583841906sloooop
why is my backpack inverted
>>583841810Now I need a new account so my friends don't see that I was a paypig.
>>583841906It's unfair that feral and enha are in A tier while bringing group buffs. Needs nerf.
>>583841810 do you get anything for hjitting 30 or just playing
>>583841906dumbest shit I've ever seenwe don't know anything about gear or enchants etctotally pointless metric
thorns has been completely cucked
>>583841906I still don't get why survi is so high, stop baiting me into rolling hunter on release
So Unless they drastically change the racials>if horde and you can be an orc be an orc for 10% sp/ap, stun reduction>if alliance if you can be human be human, stun removal rep gains which will stack with legacy talent
>>583841029The funniest part is that none of this was even done to specifically fuck them over, it's because it was all unintentional.
What is the point of this? Seems retarded.
>>583842098Forever NerfsNerfs Forever
soda is doing dalaran
>>583842212It reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.
>>583842098good, thorns and ret aura were op
>>583842212Would it even be overpowered if it affected every finisher?
>>583842114Anyone with a basic understanding of vanilla endgame knows survival is looking cracked for pve.
>>583842360I'm doing your mom
>>583842212How is that not good? Aren't you using eviscerate any time you have slice and dice up and you don't need the cc of kidney shot?
>can't check mailboxes anymore>auto-sort button on bags is gone>my ammo pouch disappearednot even mad lmaohow does this shit happen
>>583842212idk why they added this garbage instead of combat potency
>>583842058i mean its a good baseline cause we dont know every single specs gear or set but as a baseline with classic gear at 60 and current talents and spells what have you its pretty valuable and youd have to be a faggot troony to disagree
>>583839852Rogues aren't even listed
>>583842389I really don't want to play lone wolf survival though and that's majority of the builds
do humans that DW swords get 4% crit?
>>583842442Totally ready for launch btw.
>>583842419Because I have so much energy regen at all times that 10 energy makes like 3/10ths of a second difference. The change is so minimal that it's not even perceptible.
>>583842098I knew it wouldn't last. I've made my peace.
THEY NERFED MY SLICK DEVIATE LEGGINGS
Put a bunch of Overpowered skills into the beta in the hopes idiot paypigs dump out their wallets to try them outThree weeks later nerf everything into the ground
>>583842486Play lone wolf beast master
>>583842486It's fucking pve. You stand and hit. You can still summon your pet for when you are doing other stuff even with lone wolf talented.
so its banned to level 40?
>>583842538You have talents that increase x my 1%, it seems in line with everything else.
So they didn't even fix the rogue chest bullshit?
Why the fuck does Alliance get a pretty expansive zone east of Redridge while the Horde gets jack shit?
>>583842793aggrend is alliance
>>583842793its also a horde zone
>>583842538>Because I have so much energy regenBuddy it's 1 second per 10 energy. Your backstabs and mutilates take 6 seconds just to do 1 ability.
>People thought it was normal for tanks to be topping the charts by just having ret aura and thorns on
Nelf rogue cosplaying as her
Gnomes are.... STRONK
>>583842524WoW's always been like this anon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87bnXiQmrO4
>>583842793alliance is going to get all they cool stuff so they can get people to play it while still leaving the racials extremely imbalanced in favor of horde
>>583842793there is horde KFC in the middle of the zone and designated ogre shitting corner in the north
he's posting children again
>>583842793What makes you think that the zone isn't for horde too?
>>583841810>>583842028Yeah do I have to actually go max level now?
>>583841906I've seen that posted many times but what site is it actually
>>583842896Paladins and druids deserve to be the best at everything because of 20 years of oppression.
>>583842972Because the Horde town is literally just a hut and some wooden towers
>>583842853the no-titty committee
>>583842793What's the matter, no-shoes? I thought you wanted ogres in the Horde. Well, you got it. Enjoy.
>>583842893Why the hell would I be using backstab or mutilate
>>583836386>conflating colleagues with friendsyeah friendo its totally a good idea to let people who compete with you in your field to know personal things about you
>>583843083That's all horde towns anon, the towns in WoW are supposed to look like the bases in the Warcraft 3 and Orc bases look like that.
>>583842442That mailbox shit was a problem before I think it's just server overload because eventually it resolved itself without needing to update
>>583843068idk just type in wow forever sims
>>583843083They can use the goblin town too, the one with the boat to gadgetzan.
I thought the guy who did the voices for the race intros was deadDid they use AI to get his voice for skelves?
who the fuck cares about zulaman lmao. is anyone even playing anni anymore?
>pick pocket>miss
>>583843313It's clearly not Earl Boen doing the narration for the Skyborne, just someone doing an impersonation of his style.
>>583842793Because the history of the Eastern Kingdoms is almost entirely Alliance-coded?
>>583843451Forever is looking a massive disaster right now. Wrath Anni will save them I guess.
>>583843478>try to pick enemy's pocket>fail skill check and jerk him off instead>you received [cummies]Epic
Seal twisting SUCKS
>>583843592Boen Voice:"The Sky Elves are an esoteric people. In the Trailer there was an orb which that Sky Elf woman was guiding the Dwarf with. What does Blizzard know? How did they know?"
>>583841503Need her with the skelf and intense breast envy
>>583843313He's been dead for 3 years
>>583839308They are balancing around utility, you give a mandatory buff you never see your name on the chart withou scrolling again. This game is for Rogue chads only, altruism is for second place retards.
>>583842212Its very strong for all combat builds, it will make it much smoother to weave in evisc between keeping snd up. but like all posters ITT you are bad at the game and cannot think about mechanics.
>>583843594>alliance-codedbrain rotted illiterate
>>583843772I'm better at this game than you and I promise this talent is not doing shit
>>583841393>the wand got destroyedDetails?
>>583839485you need to make the thread faster anon, the xirs are winning.
>>583843451If Forever is a divergent timeline, they should absolutely do Zul'aman again, but this time the Horde sides with the Forest Trolls and Zul'aman is added as the Forest Troll city. Literally just take the original TBC raid and deck it out with the standard city amenities.
>tell asmongold i just came to her girlfriends leaks>get bannedsome fuckin tough guy
>>583843926And let us help the Amani to reclaim their rightful homelands from the bloodelves
>STILL NO 30>4 WEEKS INTO THE BETAthere is absolutely no way he goes PVP on launch
>>583842930>
>Outlaw Sabre is green nowWhy are they nerfing shit that was blue for 20 years
>>583810514join us friends. we're starting a raiding guild. horde. 20m, raid times TBD. <Remigration>https://discord.gg/53SAJSDjV
>>583844110didnt he say he was going pve?
>>583844110>elite frameWhat did he mean by it?
>>583844110>burned out fag who just does hoyp shit with all his retardsin town all day before getting distracted by polshit isn't 30 yetGreat googly moogly what a twist
>>583844213"strongly considers it"
>parasocial moment
I want to play I want to play I want to play Blizzard I am ready for my beta invite now
>>583844212No thanks. Sounds like a racist dogwhistle
>>583844117Remember to leave as small a digital footprint as possible folks. You die a lolcow and you are a lolcow forever.
>>583844335come suck my dick and ill let you play
>>583843718
>>583844335NO BLIZZARD INVITE ME LEAVE THIS ANON LAST
>>583844335that'll be $60 plus tip
>Blizzard needs to add dungeon maps because I can't use my brain, so I HAVE to download an addon or have wowhead on another monitorPeople are fucking retarded
>>583842098>leveling spellpower druid feels even worse nowShifting into cat or bear, after opening with spells, actually felt okay with thorns & spellpower pieces. Spamming spells as pure caster and drinking after every mob feels like absolute shit.
>>583844335Has anyone even got in by invite yet?
>>583844449sovl
>>583844050Unfortunately, I see them repeating the same mistake and having the horde team up with Blood Elves again. Blood Elves have been visually associated with the Horde for too long to toss them aside, even if it's pointless now that there are Skyborne that fulfill the exact same purpose.
>>583844212>>583844346The filters are working!
>>583842972Not that anon but is there even a way for horde to get there that doesn't involve running through several zones or going to Tanaris which is a higher level zone
>everyone that leveled to thirty is a no life loser, these characters are getting deleted>omg he's not lvl 30 yet on the beta, no way he's going to hack it in pvp on livewhich one is it
>>583839576It’s a hunter world, you’re just living in it
>>583844403Based sloppaposter
>>583844416>having dungeons passively memorized from shitting it up for 20 years means I use my brain to navigate them
>>583844449very small numberbut i get it, if it's too high then people will feel the need to keep equipping that shit at higher levels
If you auto sort your bags you're subhuman and I deserve 40% of every one of your walmart paychecks
>>583843889post your logs with proof you didnt just take someone elses logs, faggot.
>>583844213As of yesterday, yesbut he also said Olympus will "obviously be on PVP too" I think the idea is for them to just be everywhere
>>583844449This will be handy when im paying my booster to mob up all of strat at once for me
>>583844335>opt into beta>keep getting emails from blizzard every couple days>every time it's just them asking me to pre-purchase skelveswe're not getting in for free, sis
>>583844541Nobody said the former. Its easy as shit to get to 30. Whats weird is minmaxing, having like 8 characters at 30, having profs on each, etc.
>>583844541they're both trueif you're level 30 on beta you're a loser but at the same time if you aren't a bit of a loser you're never going to make it on a uncapped pvp server with nerfed dungeons
I DID IT
>>583844687>but he also said Olympus will "obviously be on PVP too"obviously since he wants olympus on all rulesets, factions and even in EU
>>583839308as with everything else, blame streamers https://youtu.be/ZjH5gmXpfFw?si=kJqaOSOxNW1qFlef
>>583844403what is the elf thinking about?
>>583844849that's a cool set
>>583844734>>583844335
>>583844849what's the ilvl
>>583844449>archmagister>int and attack powerMelee mage confirmation?
>>583844830nice i got 16 good goy points
>>583844734The emails are indeed an efficacious torture. Even a beta invite is not free, I am humiliated
>>583844849What is a “stronghold”
>>583844661Not seeing any arguments on why this talent does anything and I know I'm better at this game because you talk like a faggot.
>>583844885green
>>583844837>oh boy the version of WoW people have wanted for ages is finally getting made>what if I decided to turn it into a gay fucking "social experiment" by trying to see if I can monopolize the entire game with my guild and ruin the experience for everybody elsefuck that guy honestly I hope blizzard nukes his shit get your modern streamer guild drama politics bullshit out of my retirement home
>>583844969I'm assuming it's a biome tag for things like castles and fortresses.
>>583845027Based Asmon nuking your midlife child fantasy arc from orbit
>>583844849>Unironically a set for psychos like me who like standing in town buffing people, but I keep running out of manaFOREVER WAS MADE FOR ME
>>583844772>having profs on eachif you dont have crafting profs on a character its pain, i made the mistake of going herb/alch on a shaman and leveling 10-20 was so fuckin miserable i refuse to level it any more til launch
>>583844009>>583844110Asmon is basedhttps://x.com/rekapzz/status/2108282920284848530/video/1?s=61
Being contrarian liars is so cool
https://www.twitch.tv/xaryu
>>583845087that's not based at all though, it's just mean-spirited
IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID IM NOT A HYBRID
you just ganked a veteran of the third war, still feeling proud of yourself? i've served this world more times than you've had hot meals
>>583845027Hes going to play for a few months and then stop entirely just like he did before. He hasn't even gotten to 30.
>>583845127retard lol
>>583840589>Ret aura gutted>Thorns neutered>No threat gained from mana regen on improved seal of fury and shield specialization now>Righteous Fury dropped from 90 to 60% threat last patchPaladin tanking is feeling a lot shittier.
>>583845190Arms Warrior hereI am a hybridbut I'm still not putting on the shield
>>583844009He only banned you because you didn't pay.
>>583845027You probably won't even see them in-game, why are you crying? Let them have their fun, they won't even be around next year
hmmm
>>583844403Needs to be sandwhiched between the harpy and the femsatyr
Asmongold fears the undead rogue
>>583845138>member of dealth cult cannot wait to watch someone dieshocking, truly
>>583845190YOU'RE A HYBRID HARRY!
Did they already update skyborne bear model? I think it looks different, not as bright as before
>>583845190Shut up and taunt that crab monkey.
>>583845295>What do you mean I cant just turn on these two things and top the charts as a tank?
>>583845027I don't remember anyone wanting or asking for skyborne to be in their ideal version of wow...ever
Why are people saying the sort bag button is goneIts still there for me
>>583845310>You probably won't even see them in-gamewe'll see about that
>>583845190basedonly dps warriors are real people
>>583845138Do you have to link your own slop news account because you get no views and they stopped paying blue checks for content farming?
Bros my tooth is starting to give me like shocks. How can I make it go away?
>>583845170He’s fulfilling the role of scapegoat. In reality he’s a lot like Jesus Christ and he’s sacrificing himself to kill the baby in the crib so that we are not inevitably let down by Blizzard again. The people never recognize their hero.
>>583845027>the version of WoW people have wanted for ages is finally getting madeLMFAO
Imagine being a clothcuck and or healcuck
>>583845338Ironic post considering the guy killed many people. Figures you'd defend that shit.
>>583844009where are they?
>>583845190great snark post, comradeyou'd get many updoots on reddit
We need RP-PVP. Asmongold will never roll there.
>>583845510im not defending anything, though
>>583845469Dentist every 6 months /v/ro.
>>583844885
>>583845393It's not like paladin has much more it can do, Holy Strike has an 8s cooldown and requires deep prot investment (which you're not doing early because ret has good talents) to even get a threat multiplier.I don't think anyone is asking to top dps as a tank, but nerfing damage and also nerfing threat is questionable. Druid got a bear threat increase in this patch at least.
>>583842098no fun allowed forever
>elemental shaman NERFED
>>583845469enjoy your root canal
>>583845338He killed his own mom, of course he would want to watch other people die too.
>>583845674Is it really that bad?
>>583845594why dont you prompt her with boobs like that? are you gay or something?
>>583845565He’s clearly going to augment the Olympus add on and send out groups as missionaries and then track their progress/superficially encourage people to join by noticing them and probably visiting the different realms. Every faction, every rule set. There is no escape from this darkness that falls on Azeroth.
>esfand crashing out over the PLD nerfs
>>583844009>dude marries a pornstar>shocked that people jacked it to herWhere have I heard this before?
Uhhh A.I just made modded servers a huge thing. If forever ends up shit, we’re gonna get like 50x more ascension like servers.
>>583845565RP-PVP is the best combo and has the best players, I need it.
>>583845763>EEEEE NOOO I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET MY REVENGE AFTER 20+ YEARS OF SEETHINGpalakeks never learn
>>583844981You're bad and cannot prove otherwise. Lol.
>>583845701Always chasing that first taste.
>>583845793And they will all be p2w with fuck all players and die in a few months
>It's le epic streamer hourI'm out
>>583845732idkmaybe you should go to the fucking dentist instead of asking /wowfg/ for medical advice
>>583845793ascension was unironically godawfulI'd rather play turdle
>>583845793I don't care about private servers unless they're hosted by someone who is both incredibly wealthy and completely insane. No one else would be able to survive the C&D that inevitably hits any popular server.
>>583845763Brother is tilted, booger sugar peaking too early, disastrous stream inc
>new content in wow forever is just things from expansions
>namedropping randoms like we're just supposed to know who they are
>>583845393It's not about the damage, you retarded mouth breather. Gutting both damage AND threat modifiers makes for a miserable time tanking. It's fine if they're low on the charts, but if they're going to neuter damage at least buff Righteous Fury back to something like +75-80% threat modifier to compensate. Especially with the jank of taunt on judge while also keeping it as your major source of single target threat/damage early on.
>dungeon exp is backBLASTING IS FUCKKING BACKCLEAVE PUMPING GIGA PULLING CHADS WE'RE GONNA BE SPAM THAT SHIT AND NEVER FUCKING EVER QUESTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
just imagined Tall Red Haired Woman with pale skin, fweckles, prominent front teeth, and prominent clavicle lurking this thread while sipping seltzer water. She is so perfect. And if she's in this thread, I want to link up and play with her.
>>583845872Yeah man, you have such a good grasp on le mechanics you're keeping up slice and dice and using eviscerate. You must be top 1% in getting raped by your music teacher. Talent doesn't do shit btw and it needs to be changed.
>>583845793Blizzard is just gonna whack a mole these copycat servers as they pop up
>the only shaman changes in patch notes are a lightning bolt nerfhahahahahahah hahHAHAHAHHAHGAHAHAHAH
>>583845763Link? Proof???
>>583845763someone reeled in the fatty after mass refunds hit
>>583846125Now the higher ranks do more damage, just like you asked for! &=^]
>>583846125lelemental
>>583846032They are just going to make leveling via quests give more exp than dungeon spam
>>583846125those shamans celebrating warrior nerfs, oof
i haven't played the beta in a week can someone tell me if dungeon XP is in a good place now
Streamers gave you Forever. Be grateful and roll on their ruleset and faction and give them content. It's the least you can do.
>>583844969my guess would be the outdoor elite areas like the troll city in hinterlands, ruins of alterac, tyrs hand, hearthglen, etc. THo i onyl listed ones from the EK, aside from silithid hives did Kalmidor have any of those?
>>583846032>instead of reducing xp by 80% they now reduce it by 76%
>>583846298Its not. They buffed it 20% but its not additive. So you went from getting like 26 exp per elite to 30. Its still like 4x as fast to just quest.
>>583846215And thats fine, I just want dungeon xp to not be miserable. Like if the level I'm questing at has a lot of competition or I'm a level away from a new spell that will help a lot I would like to jump into a dungeon or two and top off, keep progressing even if it isn't optimal. Or if you hit a dead zone in the 40's, do some dungeon runs to get a level or so and then get back to it. Give us more options not less.
>>583845931It's not medical though, it's dental.
>>583846215As it should be.But there's a balance to strike and it's good that they're trying to strike that balance.
>>583846309https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/filename/1690914524530.webm/ mindbroken
>>583846298Good place? That's debatable, it's less than it was from previous versions and more than it was when it was nerfed a couple days ago
>>583846032this is legit what all the "increase dungeon xp blizz" nerds wanted. to actively avoid playing the game. news for you though it's not that good
>>583846428what compels an incel to do this?
>>583846125Looks like a buff to me.
>>583846032blastpump kino is back on the menu
>>583846125anon lightning bolt has 0.857 scaling in fucking vanilla
>>583846464bruh ive fucking levelled through the "old world" like 10 times by this point fuck the open world
>>583846215that's goodbut dungs should give exp too, sometimes you wanna run a dung or two and not feel like it's fucking useless
People found out that the "Optimal dungeon speed" compared to questing is essentially a 60 boosting you through a dungeon. Only then is the EXP remotely close but still below questing.
uh?
>>583846526Yeah that checks out, instead of leveling in the old world you've done like 10 times you'd rather do one single instance 100+ times before moving onto the next one to do it 100+ times again and again.
Daily reminder to have fun in wow forever with friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>583846526They added new zones, subzones and 1000+ quests idiot. Its FRESH as can be.
>>583846620>ponderous orbheh
What's your go to wow fuel? For me it's chic fil a nuggies
>>583846580they should just disable XP if someone more than 10 levels above the dungeon's intended level range is in the partyi can't think of any legitimate reason this would ever happen, apart from selling power leveling (which the devs want to end) and selling loot drops (which don't require XP)
>>583846674black sperm
>>583846709Thats what it was until today. Now max levels can actually boost you. But even with a booster its slower than questing.
>>583846759are you asmongold's gf?
>>583846632Yeah, that Dwarf looks like he's having fun.
>>583846298it is completely raped and they just worded it in a way where people think they reduced the penalty by 20% when in fact they multiplied the already pathetic xp by 1.2 when it needs to be multiplied by 5 to get back to reasonable numbersthen aggrend blatantly lied about how fast the dungeon grind is compared to open world leveling
>>583846428>>583846486what compels mentally ill ritual posters to think using an image on an image board makes someone they don't like more creepy than their constant attention seeking behavior having the archive site always at the ready isn't going to let you beat those obsessed allegations
>>583846881melty
>Want to be a Dwarf>But also want to be a boomkinMaybe a Dwarf shaman is the right choice..
>>583846709that already exists in the beta anon
>>583845734Variety is the spice of life >>583845316
>>583846664
>>583846630every dungeon is different, questing is the same rotation bullshit collecting 10 bear asses, realistically ive done the same quest about 10000 times considering every quest is the exact same
>>583846797>Now max levels can actually boost younigger you did not even read the patch notes they specifically state that is not the case
Its funny seeing the dungeon spammers being like WE WON SUCK IT QUESTIES because they didnt login to see that they barely changed anything. It takes like 4-5 runs to gain a level.
the towel has spoken, retail minus confirmed
>>583846992Meant the flattie skelf, but still kino
WORLD of Warcraft, not DUNGEONS of Warcraft.
>>583847106No it doesnt. Link it.
>>583846960join me brother and have F U N
>>583844867I wish he wasn't so blatantly reading a script.
>>583847283>Developers’ notes: As before, if a member of the party is at a vastly higher level than the enemy being killed, then no player in the party will receive XP, as intended.
pikaboo is having a meltdown on stream rn
>>583840075>using eve as proof of anything30,000 active players of which 25,000 are alts or RMTing farmersamazing
>my kino deviated druid forms are goneI lost 80% of my motivation to play this game, I was going to fish that shit every day and be a permanent 2h rogue slapping people with a giant mace or polearm every 1sWHAT DO I EVEN PLAY NOW
why is blud namedropping literal whos? no one cares
>>583847559Zoomies only have their parasocial relationships. Be gentle, they were fucked out of their formative years by the coof
Why is UC so bright now?
>>583847364justified desuthese devs are fucking retarded
>>583847284people will try not to laugh at dwarf shamansim sure of it
GET UR 5-MAN GROUP RDY BCZ WE GON BE BLASTING DAT SMEVRY LOCKOUT 5 ARMORY & 5 CATHEDRALNO BREAKS ONLY PUMP & BLAST
STREAMERSMADEFOREVERShow them some FREAKIN Respect!
>>583847720aigghhhh?
I guess I'm leveling as shadow and doing a healing spec for dungeons when I unlock dual spec
>>583847364all that time and money gone down the draintime ticking by, making a reroll less likelythe skill he was going to depend on, nerfed into the groundthat's rough really roughimagine feeling you're flying high on cloud nine and crashing back to reality
kinda sad noone has farmed the epic ring from library, i want to see the new stats
so lemme get this straight they nerf ele? the worst fucking class BY FAR?
westfall kino
inv to spellcleave!!!!!!!!!!!!
what should i play in forever if i like>solo capability>still wanted for dungeons and raidsand i dont like hunter or warlock too much? paladin? is feral druid finally viable?
>>583847859disc is way more fun imo
>cant use stuff like deviant delight anymore while in druid formI'm getting a refund, these niggers just hate fun.
>>583847925Maybe if they didn't nerf smite yet again and halve the damage penance does
>>583847915sorry you are just gonna have strap on your boots and stop being a faggot
>>583848032pve will be still fine
>>583841791they stated doing big chain lightning in pvp was too strong as the reason for gutting ele kek
>>583847907Home
>>583847720Cool, no windfury for them.
>>583847950you shouldnt be able to
>https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/more-dungeon-quest-rewards-reduced-in-rarity-in-latest-wow-forever-build-383330>even less point doing dungeonsFUCKING KEKSure fagrend, I'll just grind to 60 then. Fuck your bald nigger ass
>>583847907Human and dwarf / gnome starter zones are just the kinoest zones in all of WoW. Literally don't need the rest only Elwynn, Westfall, Duskwood, Dun Morogh and Loch Modan
>>583847364he's burning it all down
Ok, you have 1 post to say why objectively this man streaming the game with his fans is affecting you, PERSONALLY. All I see is nonsensical seething. And personally as someone that doesn't watch him, I like how he is making EVERYONE on twitter, discord servers, reddít and /wowfg/ just seethe uncontrolably.
>>583847720why would you laugh at them?
Our response?
>>583848218yeah you're right, he's gonna be an irrelevant shitter when he goes to PvE, he can go have fun there
rush to 60 week 1 on hunter, farm a bunch then level a juiced main priest after? or just priest first
>>583848132more time to focus on fingering the bosses butt now, don't have to worry about all those critsmini-game raid composition is serious business
>>583848167>I want welfare bluesretoilet tourist pls go
>>583848167all of those greens still seem really good though
>>583847904Issue is that buffs to ele would also buff enh. Difficult to fix, smol bean indie studio, pls unnerstan.
>>583848167nope sorry chuddy you vill do ze quests and get rested xp here use my code:iluvwow
>>583847915probably priest or paladin. Druid is going to be good, they're trying to balance the classes better.
>>583848342>still didnt explain why xhe was seething in the first place.why you mad tho
>>583848167Only one dungeon quest should give blues. The rest should be greens.
>>583848231>fweckles
>>583848167wasn't dungeon quests always blues except for rfc?anyway, what the hell, they're not just changing rarity--they're completely reworking the items. they're turning melee dps weapons into spellcaster weapons.
>>583847904yeshunters got buffed btw enjoy getting stunned for 3 seconds from 40 yards every 12 seconds
>>583848341>permaban all gold buyers>GDKP disappears overnight because only swipers were doing it
>>583848231it's easy when they use the retail art style
>>583810514Being able to see the mountains of Ironforge from Southshore really makes the town so much more comfy. It gives it such a different vibe then when you just had an endless sea void.
>>583848386>people are really getting mind melded by a 10xp differential
>>583847915>>solo capabilitySolo doing what?>>still wanted for dungeons and raidsAnything that heals is always wanted
>>583848167You should unironically kill yourself.
>Blizzard makes Retail>"Omg this sucks! Classic was better! We want Classic!">Blizzard brings Retail mechanics to Classic>"Wow, this looks amazing!"
>>583848458never seen those items before are they new?
>>583848560hmmm yes indeed my thoughts exactly
>>583848458All of the dm quest rewards were greens except the pants and the eventual seal of wrynn
>>583848386No I won't :)Fuck your quests and nerfed dungeons :)
Chat is filled with Shamans crying about their stupid form.
>>583846992now add the skelf in sucking human c*ck
>>583847364Why what happened?
>watching duels from a few days ago>priest DoTs up a target>casts psychic scream>casts 1 (one) penance>they're at 40% HP>all because the priest pressed 3 instant cast spells and a 2-second channelAnyone crying about penance being nerfed is a fucking mongoloid>b-but PvEYou'll be fine
>>583848572>no cata talents>no flying>classic-style class design>not fucking off to a new island every two years and leaving the old world behind>no LFD/LFRwhich retail mechanics am i supposed to pretend to be mad about?
>>583848648what happened to ghost wolf?
>>583848512Sadly it makes everything look so small. You can fkin see standalone trees. Those view distances completely destroy the sense of size of the world.Big fail
>>583848167>frogposter>is retardedIs this ever not the case?
>>583848745the funny thing about dueling is that it's already been confirmed the devs don't give a single fuck about 1v1 PVP balanceso we can expect a lot of people crying about 1v1 PVP balance and then getting really indignant when they're told to shut up
>>583848572the only people that are still here are ones that want to play retail without hard raids.
>>583848345How is leveling a hunter going to help you level your priest faster? There won't be that big of a difference between a hunter and a priest hitting level 60 either
>>583848593wetlands dungeon
>>583848747You must not be happy about the bags, you're only allowed to have one with an addon
>>583848572What I don't get is why they are changing so much shit that doesn't need to be changed?I was originally on board with all the shit but they just do more and more retarded changes.
dungeon blasting is objectively the best thing about of wowwhat kinda lil bro enjoys retrieving 20 hides?
>>583848992ikr some unc shit fr
>>583848898casters feel weaker with spell power scaling. having a higher level to either buy or farm drops for them will help (or so the autists thus spake).
>>583848898feed it gear, wands, waylaid crates to hand in for the tailoring gear+mats, basically just make a lot of gold easy, especially if dire maul north farming is in
>>583848992you can gank niggas in the open world
>>583848947nudevs hate the old devs because they created a perfect game and world
>>583848401priest is just so slow, at least paladin has buttons to press and better combat skills though>>583848538i mean being decent at questing reasonably fast including some dungeon quests without having to wait for a group to carry me every time
class/race/spec/gender for this feel?
i've died so many times due the patrolling centaur mobs...
>>583848947Name some. Lets see how silly you are.>NOOOOO DONT LET ME COMBINE BAGS (that I use an addon for anyway)
>>583849136Crust status: BUSTED.
>>583848947like what?
>>583848878Typically, if something gets nerfed, it's for more than one reason, and because it deserved it. People will blame PvP for penance being nerfed, but its heals-per-mana, heals-per-cast-time, and damage-per-mana were all imbalanced, especially for a channeled spell. Strong in PvE too, but mobs aren't going to go on Reddit and complain about priests, are they?
>>583849129nelf warrior
>>583848572>no flyingRetailfags can't understand the concept of this
>>583848745>not trinketing out of the fear and interrupting the penance cast
>>583848947Such as?
>>583840814>tall womenLong Legs > ass > tits. This the true patrician tier taste in women. Troons needs not apply. We don’t find a man in high heels attractive. We want big breeding women
>>583841810wtf Im behind now...
>>583848992>>583848876
>>583848341i will make arguments that have no basis in reality and get 200 updoots from grey parsers seething about gdkp to this day
>>583849282i heard blizzard committed hard to no flying in WoD and eventually had to add it in a patch because the retail audience can't stand existing in the world
I guess it would require alotta work and would snowball into other class/race combos demanding more curated quests but man would it be nice if shaman dwarfs highlighted that they’re probably that way because they’re windhammer kin and not just bronze beards who decided mining/archeology actually sucks and they’d rather be with nature like their cousins.
these water ripples look amazing
>>583849339>tall>ass>titsWhy not all of them?
these dalaran mobs hit pretty hard with chain lightningit's probably gonna wipe a bunch of groups at launch when everyone isn't twinked out
>>583849339I like all women
>Blasts you to death from shadowmeld
>>583849440The WoW devs really wanted to get people to be IN THE WORLD and do everything but WoW players proved they don't want that. They just want to sit in their garrison and passively make money.
objective fact: gdkp is the best loot distribution system for a guild.proof: it's like dkp but you don't need to use a stupid site to keep track of the points.>b-but what if someone le rmtsthen everyone else gets more gold so what's the issue?
>>583849581there's gotta be an addon for managing DKP by now
>>583849496Tyrande would breed absolute units
Low effort frogposting today
>>583849254It's the only good heal disc had
>>583848947>release beta in a surprisingly good state (outside of aggrend raping warriors) with some obvious bugs that people expect to get fixed>start making completely retarded changes during the beta and then double and triple down on themi dont think have seen anyone shit up their good reception this quickly before
>>583847720What's funny about them
>>583844117lol
>>583849581>frogposter doesnt know what inflation is
>>583848745Pvp is going to be completely fucked, forever. BGs and Wpvp will feel like ass. Probably best to just play on the pve server with olympus.
I never get any loot anyway so I don't care about the way it gets obtained. I'll be forced to do every raid every reset for months before getting a new bracer...
>>583849632pretty sad innit
>>583849702And yet not a single one of these 'bad changes' has been posted. Just vague posting.
>>583848947the amount the game has changed in the last 3 weeks is unprecedented and this is literally just the beginning. if there was any real vision before there would have been minor tweaks through beta instead of huge % swings and maybe some sillies for beta
>>583849702which changes from the initial beta release are you mad about? buffing dungeon XP? toning down the abundance of welfare blues at level 15?
>femhumie hunter pvp or pve>femhumie rogue pvp>femnelf hunter pvp or pve>femorc hunter pvp or pve>femorc shaman pvp or pvei cant pick fmcl
>>583844837>and even in EUGrim, please tell me you are joking.
>want to dwarf rogue>their racials are more PvP focused>play primarily PvE (on a PvP server)Is mace spec close to sword at all?
>>583847907brother
>>583848345>waste 150+ hours playing a class you don't want to play just to save <5 hours leveling the class you want to play
>>583849702Can you list a bad change that wasn't something that was objectively bugged?
Blast status?
>>583849920naked mages one shotting people now is fucking stupid
>>583849934i make a lot of female toons myself but i feel like if ALL of your toons are female you might have some kind of complex
>>583849552We want it , we like to have dungeon sessions between our open world pvp sessions . And to kill each other outside dungeons.
>>583839606YESt. Harpy fetish
>>583849991its not just saving on the levelling speed, its setting your account up by having a big farmer go hard early and making a boat load of gold, and jumping on stuff before it gets nerfed
why doesn't forever let players get married like retail
>>583839606>>583850074Need a Harpy Bitch with a big schnoz I can suck on while I fuck her Harpussy.
>>583848345based knower. I'll be starting with hunter to fully exploit early and often the completely untested 30-60 content. once I've amassed wealth and legacy points the world will be my oyster on any class of my choosing.
Anyone finding secret bosses in the new dungeon yet?
>>583850034>beta>preliminary balance >some overtuned some undertuned>changes occur wow shocking very big retail
>>583850034I don't believe you.
>>583849934For me, its femnelf hunter pvpI have traumatic memories of getting killed by them on my ud rogue back in the day
>>583850126>Need a Harpy Bitch with a big schnozBASED
>>583850034>naked mages one shotting people nowelaborate
>>583850094>farming for goldI just swipe my credit card. They won't do shit about it.
>>583850034why does anyone listen to twitter faggots farming engagementAt least here they do it for the love of the game, rather than money
>>583850034I thought this guy loved retail cause it was Different™
Great dungeon
>>583845027Bait used to be believable
>>583850174exactly my thought, plus having a hunter alt is great
>every single class has a spec that beats magemage bros.......
>>583850056nothing weird about it they're just cute and i prefer looking at them>>583850223based, i just fear foregoing EMFH will feel horrible whenever i get stunned and can't click it cause i chose to be hot instead
>>583850105You get a stacking debuff where you take extra damage from your spouse if you group with others without them. "I just won't duel my spouse, ez."You'll fall prey to a mind control mechanic eventually, and suddenly those 69 stacks won't be quite as funny (to you, anyway).
turning on toweliee retail's chief dicksucker is fucking wild to see in hereshillbots have no shame or chill
>>583850342nobody gives a shit about pve dps
>>583850342shockadin still being up there is so fuckin funnyI can't wait till the game comes out and it sinks to irrelevance beside Elemental
>>583850342how is smite not C tier its literally 2dps better than balance and 100dps lower than shadow the highest in the tier
maybe it's the way we went around the dungeon, but dalaran just kinda ended. tfw
>>583850257amazing fucking edit anon
>>583850310Holy retailslop writing
>>583850381*burp*
>>583850034HAMMERSUUUUUPPPPPP
>>583850094shaman might actually be the best i have a ffew ideassay you go to zul furrak for gy spam. shaman has searing totem and fire nova with totemic projection, fire nova will be the strongest aoe spell with all the nerfs i dont think people realize how strong this will be
>>583850342is this site still one massive AI hallucination
>>583850342>the shit spec don't have a relevant streamer shilling for buffs.noooooticing
>>583850034>DAE BETA HAS UPDATES TOO MUCH???Who watches this literal retard? Actually who?
>>583850034Haha yeah its so dumb that a naked female human mage just walks up to me with her thick thighs and tits bouncing all over the place and kills me lol.
>3 shadow priest talents are just a 10% damage buff>shadowform>shadow weaving>darkness
>>583850498>capstone beta tease is a bust >/wowfg/ in shambles Oh no no no
>>583850557I think so, I'm not sure why it keeps getting shilled
>>583850342Does this take into account the new buffs?
>>583850268They fixed crits in pvp so now ice lance is obliterating people.
>>583850547hunters pretty good for ZF solo if they havent fixed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wGhBZ790ec
>>583850342uhhh rogue bros i thought we were supposed to be the best single target dps by a large margini thought warriors were supposed to be good at cleave and aoe and fall behind in single targetthe developers wouldn't just lie to us would they
>>583849830>>583849920>>583849995destroying dungeon mob xp in favor of dungeon quest xp and then nerfing the quest xp AND the quest reward items while saying the goal is to "make people socialize"essentially they have a delusional idea that running around in the open world is socializing when that barely ever happens because the quests actively punish groupinganyone who tried playing a tank or a healer in the beta is sure as shit not doing that at launch
The verdict is out: Retail won.
They should add talents that give serious damage buffs to smite in the early parts of disc tree
Wait so this was the big patch we were waiting on? A rage fix and...lightning bolt and smite rank adjustments?
Why so little people playing clothies?
>>583850773They already walked that back so find a new one champ
>>583850342>sims warrior with ironfoe with a 10% proc rate (negative chance of being real)>sims casters with the DM tribute staff that has lower spellpower than weapons that drop in deadmines in forever
>>583850773>destroying dungeon mob xp in favor of dungeon quest xp and then nerfing the quest xp AND the quest reward itemsthe quests were overtuned thoughthe problem is they haven't brought the dungeon mob XP up high enough, but they have brought it up since the release of the beta>essentially they have a delusional idea that running around in the open world is socializingit is>the quests actively punish groupingonly when zones are massively overcrowdedyou will get your quest items way faster in a group once there are enough mobs to go around because you'll be able to clear them faster
>>583850775won the gay sex award maybe
>>583851028>>583851003>>583850989>>583850939>>583850936>>583850931>>583850839Race and class for black men?
>>583851028cooked that faggot alive, brah
>>583850765yea itd be mainly for gold assuming they still have nuked mob xp shaman would be very good in gy which is one of the best raw gold farms at the start i dont think hunters aoe is remotely comparable to fire nova but traps are placable in combat so they are probably very good and can feign so
>>583850939no they did not instead of getting 20 xp per mob in the dungeon now you get 24
someone vibe code an addon that automatically replies to people "no" if they whisper/say or shout. fuck socializing
>Paid shills like that six chins slob is dooming over Forever.Reminder this garbage launches in 3 weeks and the class balance is a disaster. Most specs don't even have a clear identity. AND half the content is not even tested.
I am tired of this shitClassic will never get the Classic+ it deserves and I still somehow end up giving money to these subhumans when they start their "WE FINALLY LEARNED" meme ad campaign for their next ClassicRaped
>>583851093https://youtu.be/D1vF3-BsoxE
Great. Now I can’t stop thinking about harpies. Damn you anon.
>>583850342>check elemental Yep, right where it should be.
>>583850430shockadin is basically just ret and what's labelled as ret is just bad version of ret
>>583851219even if it means their beak might chop it off?
>>583851093undead and orc. any class. all fat lipped vantablack gorillaniggers
I wanted to kill Thrall.I compromised, I subbed to a pedophile twitch streamer.
>>583851205maybe we were the raped ones all along
>>583851154They also fixed a "bug" that made everyone get exp related to the highest level player in the party, this means you get more exp, assuming you were not the highest level member
>>583851205okay bye
>>583851206>chuck norris dieded>ozzy diedis mr t next?
>>583851239I think they're going to rework the seal twisting talent before launch. Its a bit shit and just not very fun for a pinnacle talent.
>>583851206BASED
I think what the last three weeks has shown meis that people want a World of WarCraft uncensoredall this fucking nerfing sucks fucking ass
>>583850195>>583850605>First they came for the priests and I did not speak out because I was not a priestwhen this keeps happening well after launch and hits your class, you wont be happy
>>583851003you do understand that grouping up lowers the amount of xp you get in the open world right?they added a 20% increase in mob xp and it means multiplying the massively nerfed xp values by 1.2 which still leaves them at like 1/9 of the xp values in open worldthe fat fuck blatantly lied about how xp grinding is now about as good as open world in a post he made just a couple of hours ago when you would need to kill 9 mobs in a dungeon in the same time it takes me to kill a single mob outside
>>583851406it's just a low skill version of seal twisting. i doubt it will get changed. gives them more buttons to press.
>>583851368i completely forgot chuck norris did onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaIlT_lK1s
>>583851368
>>583851185No more of a disaster than they were in era
>finished dalaranthey just sprinkled a bunch of mobs into wotlk dalarani thought they'd at least add a new wing or something
>>583851406half the capstone talents feel like garbageThey wish they could all be Mortal Strike-levels of relevant but they're so awfulI'm glad they didn't put spirit of redemption or holy well as the 31 pter in holy for priest
>>583810514No respect
>>583851487>>583851206SOVL.>they made Verne Troyer a gnomeNu-Blizz could never
HOLY HECK DALARAN HAS A HAIRCUTTER
>>583851326yeah so instead of 13 i get 24 when the mobs right outside the instance portal are 200 a pop
>>583851651what the fuck happened to that guy? he looks like he's melting.
>>583851651Its very classic-like to be able to visit a barber shop and come out with tits
It's apparent that a large portion of this community wants Forever to be more Retail than Retail itself.Supposed "Classic Andys" are now taking a break from whining about how hard it is to level to suggest letting players pick and choose their racials, apparently unconcerned that this would removes all meaning from the word "racial".
>>583851706Back in WOTLK I think you had to pay $10 to get tits.
>>583851651its actually crazy how awful the HD models look. its mindboggling that until a few months ago they werent even considering porting in the SD shit. they thought people would actually like this
is SSF gonna be an option?
>>583851185way more than half since lvl 30 is not the halfway point in time played more like 1/3 or 1/4
>>583851706Oooof, Madone!
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to add this to the list of games I never visit the threads of because everyone just wants to shill their shitty vision for the game.
>Me as a RetailChad watching this disaster in real time
asmon already quit. he's playing some gay singleplayer game instead.
>>583851712I've only seen obvious retailfags suggesting this.
>>583851864You're bald and fat?
>>583851864whether it's butt plugs or conversations where they don't belong: retailfags cannot stop self-inserting
uhhh I assumed it was going to be 16 - current points, 26 point is alot
>>583851706Back in the day they called that the 2 for 1 special.
how is he wrong?
>>583851874Chances things get so bad blizzard reverses their naming policy and lets everyone run around with characters called nigger rapist or some sort of variation like that
>>583851712considering the state of the orc racials that would be an improvement since now everyone would become an orc
>Blizzard nerfed the fuck out of thorn Druid>90% of my gear is garbage nowWhat the fuck do I do? Start a new character?
>>583852031Congratulations or sorry that happened to you
>>583851706True, you used to have to pay money for it
>>583852010Doesn't matter since you can only use 16 points
>>583849339>>583849496Good lord I need a nelf wife
>>583850775lollmao
>>583852072Realize its a beta and this is the point of testing+feedback
>>583852052It's already like that in game. I constantly see names that I can only rationalize haven't been banned yet because Blizzard wants to get another month sub out of them first
>>583851874Blizz probably payed him for a few months of playtime. Like fuck look at all the tards following him and realize they spend $30+ for the privileged.
>>583852072you only had that character for 2 more weeks anyway
>>583852152>They totally wont make massive balance changes post launch too
>>583851874>couldn't even hit 30 in betaOh thank God, amazing sign for launch. I'm expecting burnout before he even does MC. I doubt he will even hit 60.
>>583852031Something i was discussing on another tread was the idea that retail "cycles of content" meant that every day you spent leveling, or working on profession or any other activity other than endgame content is a day stolen from enjoying said endgame content. Since everything has an expiration date(your gear, profession and abilities will be replaced with the new stuff of the next expansion) you are robbing yourself of content. This breeds directly into the elitist mentality to "not be left behind".With forever not having that expiration date(since they promised no / low vertical progression) people rushing towards the endgame will just hit a massive content wall at Mach speed.My only real concern is not that rush mentality, but instead, the constant, loud and probably mean feed back from those ppl to blizzard asking for "something to do". Since they skipped must of the world to rush to 60, the amount of comment os "i have nothing to do" will flood the forums... i just hope blizzard does not concede and add vertical content to forever.
>>583852031Too long, throw it to AI and ask it to make a one sentence summary
The crazy thing about all this and watching it play out is supposedly blizzard has class councils they collect feedback from on a not so secret discord and this is the best they are coming up withnot very reassuring, unless they are taking advice from the classes that hate playing against each other to do the balancing and then playing favorites or just outright being spiteful
>mages aren't the undisputed hero class for one patch>mages cry until they get buffed to being absolutely broken in every way again>blizz buffs themhow do they keep getting away with it
Am I reading these hunter notes right? 5/5 imp conc shot is a guaranteed stun now?That cant be right, can it?
>>583852031this is a problem for the designers, not the communityif they succeed in building the game around horizontal progression then none of this will be an issue because people will be running barrow deeps in 2030
does payo actually know any english beyond the 4 catchphrases he repeats endlessly
>>583850342>Ret and feral high tierBased
>>583851595Holy shit
>>583852031people optimized classic too. they optimized private servers. every iteration of this game has been optimized and min/maxed. that will never change and actually will only get worse over time as people gain more information. you faggots just can't handle not having all the same shiny toys that someone who plays for 18 hours a day does. it's pure entitlement. if you want to "enjoy the journey" and "take it slow" literally nothing is fucking stopping you. stop bitching about how other people play on the internet and go fucking play the game as slow as your retarded little brain desires.
horzontal progression is a meme buzzwordyou think you do but you don't (and blizzard knows it)
>>583852289stop talkingnobody gives a shit about pvp balance
>>583851706magic exists bro
yeah im going alli
>>583851864it's a disaster? source? massive success so far
Just because you ask if gold is natty doesnt mean its okay if you accept it and it later turns out to be bought gold
>>583852409yes it makes zero sense, in fact id love it if wow was solely vertical progression meaning you never stop levelling
>>583852418Youre missing the point. It being 100% gives Hunters a redneck spell interrupt.
Caster chads eating good, new set
>>583852409i do want it thoughthat's why i play OSRS and not retail
>>583852031>i want to play like shit but get to play with good players
What are (You) going to play on release?
>>583852331
>>583852561what's a stronghold
>millions of new items
>>583852561looks like the anti-datamine shit might be in already?
>>583852561>strongholdsPls not garrisons again...
For me wow is seeing some guy with both warglaives of azzinoth and saying "whoa that guy must be the best warrior on the whole battlegroup"And now if i see some guy with a legendary it's just like, oh he must have paid $2000 for that.The fact that they're pandering to this RMT streamer trash event that has nothing to do with warcraft killed any last vestiges of interest I had. Real Worlo is forever dead and I don't care.
>>583852565OSRS definitely has vertical progressionin fact it has vertical progress with way WAY too high a skill ceiling than classic players would tolerate (inferno, coliseum)
Orc Warrior or Troll Warlock
>>583852668Undead Paladin
>>583852720nah probably an outdoor area like the jinta in hinterlands or a silithid hive. the "outdoor dungeon"
>>583852561do we know what strongholds are?>>583852716yeah it's been in for the whole betaafaik we only have stats on items that at least one player with the wowhead addon has seen
>>583852715this will be perfect for my arcane battlemage
>>583852715even aggrend wants paladins to wear clothor he wants priests meleeing
>>583851472>wtf balancing? This is like retail I want the game in a static broken state foreverGo to era
>>583852668Paladin, Hunter.
>>583852561can we please not have a trillion random ass pets running around, it's one of the most aids aspects of retail
>>583852668the most raped class blizzard can muster apparently
>>583852715KINO
>>583852072I think it's funny they're shooting any angle the other two tanks have in the dick the second the concept of scaling even begins to creep in. I don't see how this doesn't just result in a sea of brown tanks as far as the eye can see on launch again.
>>583852872>he didnt bot the collecters editionwhats it like being poor
>>583852758but it's more horizontal than vertical and the vertical additions are often designed in such a way that the content they replace remains part of progressionso for example you still do fight caves before you do inferno and many 20+ year old grinds like dragon defender are still relevant
>>583852709iirc dalaran will be an alliance "stronghold" which basically just means city but i think without some things like bank or ah
>>583810514Cmon Im losing my shit
>>583852715Bard gear you heard it here first
>>583852942>no staminadead set
>>583852262They've already decided which classes will be neglected whenever they inevitability decide to add new classes. Do not main a rogue or warlock they will be powercrept and worthless. Same goes for the usual meme specs (ele sham, balance druid, shadow priest)
>>583852289>>583852529no it was rolling another time after it was supposed to proc so it was not happening almost at all
>>583852472When I queue it's instant
What's the design philosophy behind making the entire dungeon immune to arcane damage?
>>583852831there has been datamined higher level items that hasn't dropped. but it's possible that they aren't even real items that will drop.
How does horizontal progression even work? Especially when it comes to pvp gear
>>583853104Rock paper scissors
>>583853104Soul
>>583853135pvp?
>>583853104It fits with Dalaran being the center of arcane magic on azerothunless azshara pops up out of the drink suddenly
>>583853104it's like molten core or somethingi think even mc bosses mostly just had super high resistance though
>>583853260penis vs penis lol
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/horde-are-welcome-in-dalaran-after-completing-the-city-of-dalaran-dungeon-in-wow-383338#commentsSo for all those whining, Dalaran becomes neutral. You just have to finish the dungeon as Horde to prove you arent some mudhut psychos.
>>583853112It's possible that the wowhead addon is not needed and the server simply sends a decrypt key to everyone when a new item is found. This would make it where a GM testing something could trigger an item to be decrypted or people simply grouping up in the hundreds to kill high level mobs for rare drops
>>583853135It doesn’t lol horizontal is just a word, like cum or taint
>>583848218It's even funnier on PvE. Right now he's not even playing there and they're still talking about him. I'm euro and we won't even be in the same region as him but other euros are still malding and balding over him
>>583852418every balance change so far has been for the pvp tournament you fucking mong
>>583851485I liked the idea where instead of Seal Twisting, we get Crusader Strike (upgrade from Holy Strike). Does more damage, lower cooldown, applies seal effects.
>>583853135>this gear set allows you to do more damage under these very specific circumstances [you can create by skilled play]>this another gear set allows you to mitigate/turn around a specific kind of damage pattern (which oftentimes comes from whoever is wearing that another gear set)
>>583849974Play what feels rightThis is your "Forever" choiceAlso they said they are looking at racials in the most recent podcast so Dwarf might see a buff/change
>>583853384>the server simply sends a decrypt key to everyone when a new item is found.thats what happens
>>583852561This looks like dogshit wtf lol having an arcane elemental would be kinda cool thoubeit
>>583853135They already said it's vertical but just smaller jumps. First season in beta was 61dps 2h so expect to see couple more then couple more until we reach 100dps weapons and too much crit chance on everyone in about two years (if they actually release content instead of losing interest in the product after first month like every other time)
is every talent in the paladin protection tree almost necessary? they're all good
>>583853135i don't play GW2 which i understand to be closer to WoW in terms of class and itemization design so may be a better idea of what we'll get (if the devs are serious about doing horizontal progression)but in OSRS horizontal progression basically means that content remains relevant foreverfight caves was released in 2005 and while the reward (fire cape) is no longer BIS it's still considered an important step in character progressionsimilarly people still run barrows and that was also added in 2005runescape also has different bis items for slash vs stab damage, for example
>>583849974never, never, EVER pick a race because of meta racials. If you like dwarf, play dwarf.
Why are all the trannies going horde when their female models look like them irl except more feminine
>>583853384watches the encrypt keys that get sent as one is discoveredhttps://www.todayinwow.com/forever/watch
PvE or PvP realm?
>>583852928You mean Warrior taking over the tanking meta?
>>583853459ya just open the dark portal too and give us outlands.
>>583852715soul
>>583853638That's every hybrid spec because they put in 50 points of the single role into the tree rather than you having options for the same role in other two trees like say rogues. Feral has over 50 in feral you'd want to take.
>>583853704Pvp unless you're a pussy faggot
>>583853135>this overstatted item has a 0.1% chance to drop so you have to do this shit content forever
>>583853669transsexuals are notorious min/maxxersthey catered retail exactly to that type of mindset with mythic+
>>583853704pve unless you like listening to people call you faggot.
>>583853854>pvp>drop
I hope we get BC talents in Forever and I'm NOT kidding.
>>583853459that would just a be like a passive dps node.
sexo...
>Play Tauren Druid first>Wait out my Alliance alt to see who gets buffed (Probably going Dwarf anyway)
>>583853615this wont survive 6 months
>>583853950whats crazy is that I look like that
>>583853615eh I think it will be a lot slower than that. OSRS is technically vertical progression but its slooooow. In fact, I'd even like to see a system where future raid drops have to be semi-crafted with pieces of older raids drops just so veteran players have a reason to run older raids with their guild.
>>583853615So like lets say Naxx comes out. But a year later a raid comes out with the same gear stats as Naxx except like 2 strength more. Would people farm it?
>>583853950She brings the Hag into Hagatha.
>>583853928>your rank 14 is now rank 1>good luck
>>583853950my big-tittied witch wifeSloppa anon we have another woman to slop
>>583853704Do you want to play the game at a consistent level of enjoyment or be killed constantly by people way higher then you untill you can get a form of petty revenge by doing the same yourself at a higher level?
>>583853135you're playing rock paper scissors. someone throw out mold and says it beats paper but loses to rock. you now have to carry mold gear with you the rest of your life.
>>583853669>trannies going Hordethey're all play Skelves or undead females. Those are the only 2 races troons play on the Horde.
>>583854085>RedditE
>>583854062yesbut the game is already fucked by that point naxx gear is too strong
>warriors are the only class that can cleave>shaman aren't meant to cleave so chain lightning has been nerfed to be uselesswhat the fuck are the devs doing?
>>583853928pvp has seasons and the ilvl goes up each season
>>583853950Blizz still got it
>blizz prioritizing WoW classic (forever) over retail>new WC3 campaign in 23 years>new StarCraft gameThe right wing is winning. Vidya is slowly being revived because of President Trump. Unreal.
>>583854112
>>583854163they're going to be reworking all the returning raids and rebalancing all the looti don't think we'll be at naxx's vanilla ilvl even in tier 4
>>583854154Troll women(especially hunter) and a few taurens
Can someone pls post the asmongold mom fire collage?
wtf is this shit?
>>583839308qrd?
>>583854409can you present actual evidence and not an AI hallucination?
>grinding dungeons is meta>people bitch and moan>grinding dungeons is not meta>people bitch and moan>grinding dungeons is roughly equivalent to leveling in the open world>people bitch and moan>dungeons give too many blues, and they're too good>people bitch and moan>dungeons are changed to give fewer blues and worse greens>people bitch and moan>there are no SD sky elf models>people bitch and moan>they add SD sky elf models>people bitch and moan>people bitch and moan about the sky elf druid forms>they retexture sky elf druid forms and promise SD models>people bitch and moan>penance is blatantly overpowered>people bitch and moan>penance is nerfed>people bitch and moan>items have better itemization>people bitch and moan>items have weird, vanilla itemization>people bitch and moan>dalaran is alliance-only>people bitch and moan>dalaran is actually neutral once you do the dungeon>people bitch and moan
>>583854409I thought that went away with the level 30 patch
wheres my FUCKING high elves
>>583854503nah sometimes heals were healing way less than they should on people but the second you stepped outside the dungeon and healed them outside it was fixed
>>583854492well I just wanna bitch and moan but I'm having a lot of fun while playing
what did aggrend mean by this?
Bakey bakey?
>>583844346>>583844537it isn't a dogwhistle, it is blatant
Why can I no longer sort my bags? Why are they removing features?
>>583854591Please fucking spot heal you fucking retard you have healing spells this isn't retail you don't lose those spells when you put points into a spec please fucking spot heal
>>583854591there's also the equivalent talents in deep Holy for priests
31 pt ret talent Seal Of Gluttony >Your attacks slow the target by 50% for 10 seconds>Judging this seal on a target causes your attacks and spells to deal 50% of the damage dealt + N holy damage to 2 nearby enemies.Make it happen fattgrend.
>>583854591These specs all suffer greatly from the reduction of base damage/healingWithout this feral can't really heal well
New Bake>>583854740>>583854740>>583854740>>583854740
>>583854591You need high IQ to crit.What's so hard to understand?
>>583854417penance damage got cut in half and mana cost increased by 50%smite damage got nerfedprobably some other shit too
>>583854801can you stop spamming this retarded OP image
>>583854591the prot pala situation is a bit weird, they have no spelldmg talent.are we going to have those prot pala plate pieces that no one else uses like in tbc?
>>583854801kill yourself
>>583852668Druid
>>583854895why are you horde
>>583854591It means druids and shaman have more healing and therefore will deal less damage than paladin.
>>583854863Yeah I always have to check whether I'm in the correct thread because every edition uses the same image now
>>583854983>>583854983Non spam thread
>>583849632It actually takes a lot of effort, OK?
>>583850310NOOOO NOT LE HECKIN REDDIT CHUNGUS "LE HUMOR"NOOOOOOO THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE THIS IN MY VANILLA IT WAS HECKIN GRIM DARK
>>583855045thank you
>>583854409that's called sloppa lil brodon't drink too much...
>>583854234That's vertical progression
>>583852031for fuck's sake man I don't want to warriorstack for another 5 years get your head out of your assif you can't devote a significant amount of time to wow then retail is right there
uh why'd they get rid of bag sorting?hello?
>>583852769I think undead paladin can be pretty thematic, though.
