Anyone else noticed that bases have gotten better the past few days? Maybe it's a new player drop off thing, but it's so much harder to find a hole.

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Think thats me done until the wipe, this was a depressing log to look at..

>>583916210
Should've shot the legs

>>583916210
>using HP ammo
Well there's your problem

>>583916210
>uses hp ammo
>shoots upper body
do any of you braindead retards actually read what you're clicking onto?

This game will fail if they don’t add non koth modes. The game design is too loose and combined with economy and unlocks, it just isn’t going to work long term. We should have a full theatre of war, but instead we’re going to die on the same 3 hills until this shit goes eos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2VxjMnMDw4

>INCREASING PROGRESSION GRIND

nahhh GG fuck Brammer and fuck this player base I never seen an fps game kill itself this quick

>>583921409
>>583921368
Wait no way? You gotta be lying doom poster

>>583916210
nice demoralization post, nice, very impressive

>>583921409
>>INCREASING PROGRESSION GRIND
BASED BRAMMER, /OURGUY/

>no mention of LMG ergonomic buffs
its over...

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>>583921368

>we recognize that casual players cannot keep up with the insane vertical progression of the poopsock nolifer twitch streamer degenerate parasites
>so we made it WORSE
>but don't worry, when you get dicked again for the second month, just shoot them in the legs dummy!

lmao these fucking guys

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>>583921409
>we know a rank disparity exists
>So we are increasing the grind

????

>>583923094
casual players are unironically a huge liability in this game
if they're on your team, you get a cursed match with a fob full of holes and 14 teammates laying on the ground waiting for rez
if they're on the other teams, you get a boring one-sided stomp where you stand in the hotzone with no fighting for 45 minutes

you WILL join lonestar for the cash and xp boosts and you WILL shift the winning team from green to blue causing the other teams to become new blues

>>583923693
The games fucked now, they got streamers and they don’t care all the dad gamer muh old days marketing falls apart when the tryhards are here

>>583923845
never

>>583923845
blue is going to be even worse after these changes. now FOB monkeys will get even more XP and cash for doing nothing, and now they get logistic spree rewards on top of that

it's almost like these developers are completely clueless as to what they are doing

>>583923885
>the dad gamer muh old days marketing
you're contradicting yourself
there were no dad gamers in the olden days
perhaps you misunderstood the marketing

>muh success
>new hires bro
>we made the grind even longer
>this somehow will make the rank disparity 'more in check'
>we want to give you the tools to fuck up those pesky players punching you down
>except you don't have any unlocked so just shoot them in the dick brah
>actually adding an exp and cash boost to blue team so all the poopsocks will now play blue instead of green
>red or green will now be the new blue
Red flag upon red flag.

>>583923693
Casual players aren't fixed to one team or the other. They're spread out just as the rest. You need players of all gayming skill to keep your game interesting anyway. Catering to the poopsocks will leave you with nothing because they have no seals to club. It's very clear they don't like fighting on equal footing so they'll just get frustrated from dying to other poopsocks. What the fuck is this bullshit?

>>583923693
>the developers are unironically a huge liability in this game

ftfy

>>583898317
You wouldn't get it

They worded it bad but the slow progression is here to stay but they aren’t making it longer

>>583923653
they're not increasing it? They're explaining the current state. The right is what we have now

>>583924861
Oh that’s great because how we currently have it also sucks!

>>583921368
>Blue is so shit you're going to get paid more for playing

Did they mention buffs to logistics or are the just shifting the profit/exp to streaks, meaning if you want to level driving, you'd better not do anything else?

>>583923653
They are referring to the beta but the fact they want this grind is retarded especially with wipes

>>583924505
>Casual players aren't fixed to one team or the other.
right
>They're spread out just as the rest.
they're concentrated on blue because blue is easiest to join

Lowkey not bothering with season 2 im burnt out especially if they aren’t speeding up progression

>>583926046
great, i look forward to you finally leaving the thread

>>583926046
This isn't an airport, you don't have to announce your departure

>drills were too OP
Who the fuck was saying this? Have they ever even built a drill in their life? Activated one? Delivered oil?

I think I've seen 2 games get decided by drills my entire time playing. The amount of logistics they need is insane, that's not to mention your base needs to be good enough to fed off all of the best shooters on the server coming down you in the span of 3 minutes. Building one solo takes forever, and if a mortar player happens to glance at your base, that thing will never get built regardless of how many people you have swinging. These people do not play the game, or if they do it must be green players that are mad they can't just sit their whole team in the circle to win.

>we give you the tools to FUCK UP other players!
>but only if you spend 60+ hours grinding fobbit
The it's over chance is at 90% now. Would be 100% if the video wasn't just an 11 minute vaguepost.
1k by December.

how many fucking flares can a havoc have?
and why are they so fucking spammable
this piece of shit is literally flaring faster than I can swap to a second launcher

>>583926216
>>583926117
Does Brammer keep you in a cage to defend his decisions?

>>583926515
>Who the fuck was saying this?
retards, probably

>>583926604
Like 15 or so I think. They have to sacrifice ammo for flares though. Nerfing the havocs inventory capacity would actually be an ideal nerf.

>>583926654
He does it for free. Can you imagine
>>583926745
Too be fair, I think they are nerfing the drills because they are also nerfing mortars. If they simply nerfed mortars drills would be oppressive at the start of the wipe.

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>>583926654
i'm very happy with the current rate of progression
it's a win for me when people who don't like it give up on the game

>>583926515
built a drill inside one of the warehouses... it got killed by helicopter splash damage through the roof

>>583927303
Nigga plays an fps game to not shoot niggas

Vision status?

>Four New Weapons
TCX Spear - Assault Rifle.
M14 - DMR.
PP-19 Bizon - SMG.
Evo-3 Ultra - LMG.
Supported by a range of new attachments.

>Molotov
A thrown incendiary that splashes fire on impact and damages anyone caught in its radius.

>Four New Vehicles
Wolf-110 - A fast, light wheeled transport.
Wolf-110 (Assault) - The Wolf-110 with a ring-mounted M2 Browning.
T-72 - A main battle tank. Slower than the Leopard, but cheaper and far more fuel-efficient.
Flakpanzer Gepard - Anti Air Vehicle.

>Three New Buildables
MG Nest - A manned M2 Browning emplacement.
Large Shelter - A large metal shelter for covering key assets or keeping the rain off.
Wooden Step - A step. Made of wood.

>New Rain Weather Preset
A new weather preset that changes visibility, engagement ranges and sound.

>New Experimental Wager Vendor
This is a first pass at a genuinely experimental Early Access feature.
Choose your objectives, set how many deaths you’re willing to spend completing them, then set your stake and try to profit against the odds.
Getting X kills in the hotzone, delivering a number of players, and more besides.
The more objectives you stack onto a wager, the longer the odds and the bigger the payout.

1/2

>>583926515
>The amount of logistics they need is insane
2 pallets of build supplies and 4 of fuel
>that's not to mention your base needs to be good enough to fed off all of the best shooters on the server coming down you in the span of 3 minutes
literally inconceivable to you that a fob doesn't have holes in the walls
>Building one solo takes forever
90 seconds

>>583927535
>Key In-Game Balance Updates
Infrared Rangefinder - Now runs on batteries.
Helmets - The Super Heavy Helmet now comes with muffled audio, a restricted field of view, and will fog over when you’re sprinting.
Combat balancing - Adjustments to weapon damage, recoil and suppression, with the aim of establishing clearer roles across weapon classes.
Improvements to squad coordination, vehicle handling, controller responsiveness and progression, additional rewards for teamplay and logistics, plus performance optimisations, bug fixes and server stability work.

>Faction Balance
All faction spawns have moved on Bakurani.
Lonestar uniforms are more desaturated, so they stand out less against the other factions.
Lonestar faction cash and XP win bonus, Season 2 only.
Lonestar faction cash and XP multipliers, Season 2 only.
A new vendor discount for the losing team: 20% off if they’re at least 40 points behind second place. This applies to all teams, not just Lonestar.

Community server hosts found to be exploiting the faction bonus will be punished.

2/2

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>>583921368
Devblog effortpost incoming for lazy anons and wagecels
>3 million copies sold, light self fellatio but they don't want to rest on their laurels too much
>Devs say some of the fixes may take longer to implement (mentions progression fixes and party system)
>Devs say its okay if playerbase leaves to play other games, theyll just keep working on game, but they are hiring more people due to the huge success of the game
>Joe say theyve been seperating "legitamate issues" from growing pains or people learning the game
>Joe says they plan on communicating better through "other formats", shows some kind of podcast stage they have in the office
>Wipe blah blah, cash gets converted into skins, skins will not be monetised so that they show who nolifes the game
>Devs admit permanent progression is important and neccesary, all experience will be applied retroactively to the new systems (skill tree) when they are ready (no time given)
>Season 1 was intentionally short because thats when the most nolifing would happen, and the worst exploits will be found and patched for the next wipe
>Devs recognize that the progression is hard to balance for both the 10 hour player and the 300 hour player
>Devs want to do a full rework but until this new progression can be finished, all they can do is massage the pain points so that people can enjoy the game
>Devs knew poopsockers would find the meta and the knowledge would eventually trickle down, but there are definitely still issues with the progression and endgame balance

>>583927662
>2 pallets of build supplies and 4 of fuel
So 6 heli runs. That's a lot
>literally inconceivable to you that a fob doesn't have holes in the walls
You can have the best base in the world, but your team will still get wiped because it is being deafened by 3 naked guys with hammers, one guy with binoculars, and one guy with a real kit who just happened to take the APC spawn 20 seconds ago. Plenty of assault players carry around the C4 and IEDs needed to bust open any base that was designed with the audacity of wanting their own team to walk into the base instead of just out.
>90 seconds
This is how I know you haven't played builder since the changes.

>>583928460

>Devs want to keep the game as an open sandbox with player freedom, that freedom is the most important part of Wardogs and they say they will never go against that, even for streamers or content creators
>Devs focus on balance relates to strategies, items or gameplay that is too prevalent and becomes too dominant and makes the game boring
>Names mortar spam and drill spam, both to be recieving some kind of nerf to make them less neccesary, but still doable with good logistics (devs mentioned somewhere increasing the ammo cost for mortars so expect that, havent heard about triple shots or the mortar cam)
(In the devblog, it shows the player manually loading the mortar in a first person animation, possibly a nerf to reload time, or maybe a minigame like the SPG. Mortar cam is still shown)
>Delivery streaks for land logistics so people stop dumping trucks and respawning (doesnt mention if air will recieve streaks as well)
>Lvl 4 helmet to be recieving nerfs to stop it being so dominant
>Devs mention nerfs to certain playstyles based on strength and usage (shows gameplay of Heli grenade launcher)
>Prematch party system not ready yet (how hard can it fucking be?)
>Devs adding prematch minigames while waiting for server to fill up (shows soccer minigame with some kind of cash reward)
>Cash and XP bonus for Blue, reworked spawn on Bakurani (Eiffel 65 - Blue starts playing, probably a new cassete)
>Proceeds to show a season 2 mini trailer with a bunch of new stuff (ive got clips of everything, will post after)

I saw that an anon already listed some of the new stuff, ill just stitch together the images and any info I noticed

>>583928493
>This is how I know you haven't played builder since the changes.
build 2 short hescos between yourself and the object you're building so you can only see a narrow slice of it, the x won't appear outside your field of view

>>583918031
>>583918317
I got 66 hours and only level 80 lads I can't be unlocking AP yet. At 70 hours I guess I will have it, but I may as well wait for the wipe rather than enjoy 2 or 3 days of "normal" ammo. So where should I be shooting them with HP in the future against t4 armor, the leg? I thought the leg thing was a psyop...
>>583921803
I'm demoralized for sure but I still really like the game so I'll be here for season 2 at least.

>>583929020
>only level 80
you have AP for 7.62x39 (SKS) and 9mm, and you're three levels from AP 7.62x54 and 5.56
>I thought the leg thing was a psyop...
it's real but hard to actually do, you'll get better results with fmj in 80% of situations

>>583921409
that's actually good but I don't expect you cod dog to understand what that means

>>583929329
>AP for SKS
Good point actually. I forgot to even check ammo for previously unlocked stuff. I might even have it for the AK so could maybe just go back to that in future instead of the next tier weapon. Thanks.

>>583928635
nta but you think that's going to last more than a week?

>>583928635
That only works all the way to the end about 1/3rd of the time. Sometimes you can see the X but can't quite get the angle on it. Sometimes when the drill upgrades its form, the X will jump to a random spot on your side of the drill, but outside the little window. Either way you are now stuck building normally until the X happens to appear in the window again.

>>583929020
if you bring hp ammo you do no damage to helicopters

>>583925694
new players =/= casual players

>>583927662
>literally inconceivable to you that a fob doesn't have holes in the walls
This is much harder than you realize. New fobbits making walls will always leave a hole; it's in their nature. Today I saw a spot that enemies were just jumping into the base from and the only ways to fix it would have required hand destroying 10+ bremers. I couldn't even build a new wall outside the base while under fire if I wanted because it was all the up to the edge.

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>>583928460
>>Joe says they plan on communicating better through "other formats", shows some kind of podcast stage they have in the office
>podcast in the office
This guy is such an attention whore holy shit.

>>583927479
Inconsistent. They are going to waste their money on new devs, throw a bunch of shit at the game that will only make things worse and they think they can cope with core issues with even more grind. None of this matches up with what they said about how EA was going to be.

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FatfuckTV seems to have gotten the patch notes early and hes listing a bunch of stuff I havent seen elsewhere, gonna chronicle it in case he deletes for being retarded

Wolf 110 unlocks at lvl 8 (not sure about .50cal variant)
Flakpanzer Gepard unlocks at lvl 25
Storm system is server wide (everyone hears thunder at the same time)
Team switching is getting restricted, once a team is 10 points ahead, players cant switch teams for 15 minutes after joining one
Team switchers get a reduced map, hiding player locations and spawn vehicle until you reach CZ.

.308 gets a 25% damage reduction
7.62mmR gets a 20% damage reduction
7.62x39 gets a 19% damage reduction
.50cal gets a 16% damage reduction
Snipers get "increased hit location damage" (no clue what this means)
DMRs get "adjustment" to headshot and upper body damage (probably nerf)
Assault Rifles get small body damage reduction
LMG body damage will match AR
Scout Rifle will now 1 shot headshot lvl 1 helmet and below (doesnt mention but assuming FMJ ammo)
LVL 4 armor damage reduction reduces from 65% to 60%
Suppression effect from small and medium calibre will be greater now
Suppression screen shake effect will be reduced
Heavy and Super Heavy helmets will reduce suppresion effect by 30% and 60% respectively

MP5 gets a new recoil pattern with more horizontal recoil
DMRs get recoil changes
GL gets nerfed, reduced muzzle velocity, increased damage falloff, inaccuracy debuff when fired from little bird
Bow will penetrate lower tier armor better, damage falls off to 0 at 500m (increased damage falloff)
Parachutes will take longer to deploy, increased deployment height (no numbers given)

Part 1/?

Building costs changed:
Bremmer Walls cost increasing from 15->32 each
Doors increasing from 22->250 each
Gates increasing from 85->500
Mortars/Radio towers increasing from 150->800
Drill increasing from 2250->2750

Hammers will "build more slowly" (no word if that affects animation cancelling)

Drill minimum fuel increased from 1500 to 2000
Maximum runtime reduced from 375s to 300s

Talon reload time increased from 2s to 5s
Ammunition costs quadrupling

Mortar ammunition costs doubling
Rate of fire reduction (due to new animation)(No word if this affects triple shots but it might kill that)

Improved foundation placement
Sandbags and barbed wire will be placeable on top of Bremmer Walls
Unfinished structures collapsing when their supports are destroyed (this will almost definitely kill the floating buildings)


Vehicles
Purchased vehicle inventory will be locked by default to owner and squadmates (no more stealing flares)
Improved handling for tracked vehicles
Humvees get improvments to suspension, acceleration and ability to climb terrain (Fatfucks says "adjustments", video edit says "improvements", make of that what you will)
Dune buggies braking nerfed
Can no longer throw explosives out of enclosed vehicles (I though they already patched this?)
Fixes for gun turret desync (humvee turrets will actually be facing correctly)
Fixes for flying tanks

Part 2/?

Progression changes
AK74 unlocked by default
TAR21 is now lvl 3
TCX spear unlocks at lvl 20
M4 moved from lvl 20->28

PP-19 Bizon (new one) becomes default smg
MP4 unlocks at lvl 4
Medkit unlocks at lvl 14
Defibs unlocked at lvl 22

New M14 unlocks at Lvl 25
RFB reduced from lvl 30->lvl 20

EVO-30 (new lmg) ulocked at lvl 30
PKM unlock reduced from lvl 30->lvl 15

Gold Exchange now unlocks at Wardog lvl 35 (trying to combat gold sellers maybe?)
Prices increases to endgame gear across the board
Leopard MBT increased from 14k to 22k (oh shit nigga what are you doing)
Havoc increased from 18k to 28k
Lvl 4 helmet increased from 3k to 4.5k
AK74 reduced from 1.6k to $800
PKM price reduced
Large backpacks including slingbags get price reduced
New Cash and XP rewards for raiding FOB's and succesful logistics runs
Theres a lot more progression and economy changes but FatFuckTV ran out of breath before he could list them all (or got distracted by an unattended minor)

Controller improvements (who fucking cares)
Squads will now be able to tag based on playstyle (no word if its custom or premade labels)
Players who help populate a server will recieve cash discounts once match begins
Prematch entertainment includes shooting range, football and radios
Steam trading cards, point shop items pending Valve approval
Performance and Stability improvements
Bug Fixes etc

>>583929020
Don't worry anon, in season 2 you will have all the tools needed to deal with those evil players punching down on you! You won't. And by the time you spend 66hrs in season two, you'll be only level 30! Just shoot them in the dick lmao because AP ammo is for poopsocks only to they can kill you even faster :^)

>>583932479
>MP5 gets a new recoil pattern with more horizontal recoil
>make an arguable sidegrade weapon literally worse
>Hammers will "build more slowly"
>make boring thing even more boring
>Lvl 4 helmet increased from 3k to 4.5k
>drop, meet bucket

>>583932817
oooooh cheap AKs

>>583932817
>Controller improvements
Important for non autistic heli pilots that dont want to fly with kbm or spend money on a real HOTAS setup. Previously you had to set up a controller exclusively through steam input, and use jank shit like joystick-as-mouse to even get analog control.

>>583932651
>Gates increasing from 85->500
>500 for a building that gets deleted every time you turn your back
That's a really expensive way to build a hole in your wall. If this turns out to be real, I'm going to have to start verbally abusing every person I see that places one of these.

>>583933635
I wasn't specific, my apologies.
The controller improvements relate to infantry gameplay including aim assist, sensitivity and menu navigation and various keybinds.
But if they improved it for pilots as well thats pretty neat.

>>583933754
I get the feeling they didnt make this change because gates and doors were OP, they made this change to Pavlov's Dog retarded fobbits so they stop building 5 fucking gates to a single FOB

>>583932817
>Medkit from 9 to 14
>Defibs from 11 to 22
brutal

>>583932479
>Snipers get "increased hit location damage" (no clue what this means)
this means that snipers get better damage modifiers to different bodyparts to counteract the lower base bullet damage
>>583932651
>Doors increasing from 22->250
why, you can shoot them out with fucking fmj they are so weak
>Gates increasing from 85->500
if they are still 1 c4 then it's dogshit
>Talon reload time increased from 2s to 5s
>Ammunition costs quadrupling
heliniggers won; fuck heliniggers
>>583932817
>Medkit unlocks at lvl 14
>Defibs unlocked at lvl 22
makes sense to swap then tbf

>>583934060
Which I would agree if I thought building 5 gates was enough to keep enemies out of the base (it's not).

>>583933754
unfortunately a fob without an entrance is practically useless, and door tunnels are arguably worse than no entrance at all

>>583932817
there's some good stuff in here

>>583934637
oh wait my bad medkit is the IFAK not the med bag
shit change then

>>583932651
>Talon reload time increased from 2s to 5s
>Ammunition costs quadrupling
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>583932479
Who is this and on what site? When I google Fatfucktv youtube/twitch/kick/etc I get some, uh, very strange results

>>583934675
You're right, though I've seen no entrance bases work before. You have to get the APC in and have a taxi helicopter know people need to be dropped off inside.

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is it true you can just shoot people in the legs to ignore their late game armor?

>>583935178
BigFryTV, the devs have shown up on his podcast twice already

>>583935548
Yes. The caveat is that leg damage is naturally lower that head and torso damage. It's still pretty strong with hp ammo, but you have to hit.

>lonestar cash and exp bonus
wtf i love blue now??

>>583935809
i look like this

the 100k clip contest is shared between 100 clips so they each get 1k?
that makes much more sense, seemed crazy to give 100k to just one guy

>>583936116
this is going to get patched out in the first 3 days when blue becomes the new green, but with an even higher winrate

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>>583936602
will be fun to see if the team pick minigame will change

>>583934237
But it makes more sense for progression since the medkit was worse than the defibs.

>>583937148
Medkit isn't the trauma kit or whatever the big red kit is. Pretty sure that thing is where it's staying where it is

>>583937496
which is sad because the medical bag needs a buff

>>583937496
ohhhhh

>>583937496
>>583937567
>>583937658
FatfuckTV specifically says the medkit is "moving down". 99% sure its the red bag and not the lvl 8 unlock, the Individual First Aid Kit (Or IFAK)

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Posting stills and stitches from the recent devblog along with any notes or hidden details that weren't immediately obvious.
First is the new PP19 Bizon. I was hoping this was the release of the gunsmith the devs had been talking about letting you modify the PP19 Vityaz to accept the helical mags but no, its a separate weapon.
Hopefully its the 9mm version because making it the stupid russian 9x18mm version and adding another type of ammo would be a pain in the dick.

>>583938029
So, IFAK to 14, Medkit down to ____, and defibs to 22? Probably better for game overall health but it's going to make leveling medic more of a pain

>>583938029
if that means the (orange) first aid kit stays at 9, the (red) medical bag drops to 14 (from 24), and the defibs rise to 22 (from 11), then they've absolutely fixed medic progression

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The new EVO 3 LMG, which is the FN Herstal EVOLYS, chambered in 5.56 or 7.62 NATO, no clue which version we will get ingame but given that its a lvl 30 unlock, it must be 7.62.
Not much to say about it, will probably be extremely dominant because 750RPM of 7.62 with minimal recoil on a bipod will shred anything

>>583938334
>>583938554
What the second anon said, IFAK stays at 9, Red Bag moves down to lvl 14 so that people will actually use it, and defibs rise to lvl 22 given how insanely useful they are. Thats the only way I could interpret what fatfuck was saying and what would make sense for medic progression.

>>583938596
if you can't shoot it from shoulder it's shit
bipods are just asking to get headshotted by a sniper

>>583938554
>>583938795
That would make sense. Make the medical bag useful, make leveling medic higher unique and worthwhile, and reduce the prevalence of instant revives.

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The new M14, chambered in 7.62x51mm. Unlocks at lvl 25 and it has a confirmed full auto switch so even if you get the drop on a recon, they can magdump this in your face.
Couldnt see any visuals of it with the modern EBR furniture, hopefully we get it someday. Given that this has full auto, it makes sense why the unlock is after the RFB (Or BMR as its called ingame)

>>583927535
>Wolf-110 - A fast, light wheeled transport.
>Wolf-110 (Assault) - The Wolf-110 with a ring-mounted M2 Browning.
this is already a crowded niche with the kodiak and humvee
i wonder what makes it unique

>>583938596
Bipoding naturally sucks in this game because of how easy it is to kill someone sitting still. When it works it's great, but moving after every kill is far more rewarding than having a slightly better kill time while sitting in one place.

>>583939056
>>583939234
They seem to be nerfing snipers pretty hard this patch so who knows.
IRL the FN EVOLYS is a lot lighter than the older FN Minime or M249 so hopefully this thing can be better for running and gunning. As a level 30 unlock it better be decent, even if its in the support tree.

>>583939414
>They seem to be nerfing snipers pretty hard this patch
compensated with better modifiers, pretty sure you're still gonna eat 90% of your hp or onetapped with AP

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I forgot to mention which class gets which gun but in case its not obvious, Medic gets the PP19 Bizon, Support gets the EVO 3, Recon gets the M14 and Assault gets this one, the MCX SPEAR, same name as the real thing. See the previous post about the leaked patch notes for more info on unlock levels.

It has its own proprietary ammo which sucks major ballsack because its overpressured to fuck, but its also chambered in 7.62 NATO which is most likely what we will get ingame. Its a full auto 7.62 weapon that unlocks at lvl 20, god help us all. Next patch will definitely be the era of .308, even with the damage reduction, so make sure you diversify your class levels to unlock .308 AP as soon as possible.

>>583935548
Yes, but you have to unlearn natural head/chest aiming and have to be lucky enough that they are standing up and have their limbs exposed. Since most people naturally duck down or will use cover and leaning, it's honestly a bit of a 'when the stars align' ammo type. It's effectively useless against vehicles and penetrating any harder surface.

>>583939056
I assure you, I have absolutely no trouble headshotting you in the moments when you're shooting without a bipod either

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The new T72 Russian tank which they didnt say what level driver it unlocks at. It would have to be before lvl 35 otherwise it would be useless compared to the Leopard. And the Gepard unlocks at Lvl 25. I have no idea how theyve shifted the M249 defender Ural or the Minigun humvee, but I would guess late 20s, early 30s for this thing.

It seats 4 people (I think, the video was very out of focus when showing the ingame UI), which is really weird. You've got the driver, the main gunner and then the top gunner, what is the 4th guy supposed to do? Details say this is supposed to be more fuel efficient and probably cost efficient than the Leopard MBT.
Noticeably it does not have any front reactive armor like the Leopard, and if youve used the tank you know that the front armor can soak up a lot of hits if you use it to tank damage.

Given that the rocket bird rapes Leopards regardless, and they just increased its price massively, this thing might end up dominating instead because you still get a big tank cannon and you are still bulletproof.

I'm having a blast with wardogs and arc raiders

>>583940890
>have to take an extra second standing up before being able to move freely
pretending to be retarded

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The new WOLF 110 Light attack vehicle? thing. Can be used unarmed or with the new .50cal m2 browning. Seats 4 unarmed, assuming 3+1 gunner in the armed configuration.
>>583939156
It has a higher top speed than the Humvee and I would assume its more controllable than the Kodiak. I would assume its niche is having a high powered turret but the crew is completely exposed without glass or car parts to protect them. If the .50 cal is very accurate, expect to see this on hilltops sniping people who try to cross the wrong street.

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The new wager system and corresponding ingame vendor.

It seems like a cool idea harking back to the old COD wager days, but how is this really supposed to work with a large scale mmo-style economy? Literally just days ago you had an ewhore organising an army of simps just to farm FOBs.

Why wouldnt people with the capability just make extremey wagers and then use their clanmates to force it true. If it has cooldowns on certain parlay legs, then its not something you can spam over and over so its just a random bet. Also can you change it ingame? If your team is steamrolling, could you just make a parlay to build 3 drills or whatever since no one will contest it.
Too soon to tell but im thinking this will be a meme.

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The nerf to lvl 4 helmets which also includes muffling sounds around you and fogging up when you sprint. In rainy matches this thing might be nigh unusable because of the rain effect+thunder on top of the sound muffling.

Honestly I was expecting it to be even worse with the FOV. Unless the fog is super annoying, this thing would still be pretty useable for snipers and turret gunners. The question is whether pilots can still wear it to avoid getting sniped out of the cockpit or if the third person camera lets them get away without the debuffs.

>>583941047
You know you can stand up and run around without resetting the bipod, right? For standing up and running it's not going to make a difference

>>583940963
Looks like MAAWS bait, it'll be great to see tanks earlier though. However, when the autistic heli spammers ramp up this thing will vanish, between rocket helis and infantry carrying MAAWS for the helis, this little tank will have no chance.

>>583941350
Unarmored cars are fucking useless, dont care how strong the gun is, if the driver can be shot the whole thing is a rolling death trap.

>>583942308
>the third person camera lets them get away without the debuffs
my wager (heh) is the lv4 helmet disables 3rd person camera entirely

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>>583942308
For reference, this is what the exact same helmet sees in first person in tarkov.

But to be fair I am being a bit factitious. The menu icon shows this Maska faceplate with the very small slit, whereas the actual helmet (at least on blue team in the firing range), shows an Altyn helmet with the larger square visor.
Still much smaller than what we are getting in Wardogs but I guess its better than nothing.

>have to give incentive for people to play lonestar
kek

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>>583921368
>longer progression grind
>glbirld still not banned
>bringing back thermals
THE VISION WILL CONTINUE UNTILL 5K OR LESS PLAYERS HAS BEEN ACHIEVED

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Back on schedule, these are the new thermals post nerf.
I don't know if its just me or the video quality or something but they look extremely grainy. Like you just increased sharpness to maximum and then some. It might be genuinely difficult to tolerate this even for the great target acquisition.
No word on battery usage rate (whether its per look or per second of viewing time or whatever), because you might be able to game the system by just taking quick peeks if its per second.
Rangefinding is still there but they never show its zoom past 4x, even when staring at the far away dune buggies. Hopefully this means they capped the zoom level, because it was pretty stupid that the thermal goggles had the best zoom level, and infrared, and rangefinding all in one.

>Band-aiding blue team
I will now buy your game.

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Quick little comparison between the stationary .50cal and the mounted one on the new vehicle.

>>583942486
We will have to see how the Gepard affects air dominance. That thing alone might completely reshape the mid-late game balance because arty tanks will be a lot safer, and most ground vehicles will be able to roll around without getting picked off by rocket birds all the time.
Like I mentioned earlier, if the recoil or bullet spread isnt too crazy, and if the mounted machinegun has the same ironsights as you can see on the stationary one, this thing might be a menace picking off stragglers or watching from hills. 600 rounds per minute of .50 is no joke, especially in this game where .50 can one shot lvl 2 or below to the upper chest.

>>583942580
One can only hope the winged menace shall fall to the ground.

>>583943379
>RPG still totally worthless
>all anti vehicle still locked behind dozens of hours of mind-numbing support grind
>Havoc and rocket LB received a secondhand Buff with talon nerf
>effective gear pushed further back on the tree increasing neet virgin advantage
PLAY YOUR WAY (unless your way doesn't involve getting farmed by people who play 40+ Hours per week)

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Gold and Black littlebird skin, I'm guessing this will be the next limited time skin. Hopefully not all skins are this garish gold and black because it will get really obnoxious.

>>583944281
>neet virgins stacking Ws
based brammer is /ourguy/

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The new missions system (not coming in this update) which seems to feature quests and specific questlines in order to progress.
Seems to require both cash and xp in a certain way in order to move up the questline.
This is part of the "perfect" progression that the devs want for 1.0 and to stop the wipes.
To put it in laymans terms, they want a perfect system that works for both poopsockers and casuals and theyre working on it, but they don't have it yet so we have wipes for testing purposes while they work on it. You can believe they know what theyre doing or you can think theyre full of shit. We will have to see in the next 11-23 months.

Another video uploaded onto the main Wardogs youtube, this is the podcast style talking booth that they were refencing in the devblog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDtosdp86ms

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And yeah thats about all the info I could scrape from the devblog and other related sources.I might do an effortpost on the press conference later on but its just a QnA like the ones theyve done before and that Joe does on his twitter.

I checked around and couldn't find any creators giving exact numbers for nerfs/buffs/class rank movements, they all talk about "oh I cant say" " I cant give exact numbers", EXCEPT for extrafriesTTV who says it clearly despite the fact that there's probably an embargo until the actual patch notes drop. If only he wasn't so lazy and dropped the full details of nerfs and buffs because there's definitely more besides ones I listed earlier. Maybe another attention whore will drop them before officials next week.

>>583945280
This just looks like daily grind shit. Meaning players will do whatever it takes to complete them (perhaps in under time pressure), even if it means fucking over their team. Great. Are they making an MMO or a shooter at this point? Do we really need a kill 10 rats quest?

>>583943391
They did make it grainy and also seem to have added some glare effects. However the actual image resolution seems to be unchanged, possibly even better. So the only actual limit on the thermals (aside from annoyance) is the battery. Not gonna stop me, I'm still just going to use a rucksack full of batteries.
>t. reconmaxxer

>>583946968
>missions are literally placeholder lorem ipsum text
>anon has already constructed a worst-case scenario and jumped through a long chain of conclusions from it

>>583947420
It's what it looks like from what's there on the UI. Let's make it less worse case then... little grinds within the grind to get a little bolus of exp while you grind to slightly lessen the tedium?

>>583945280
Wow we have gacha style daily mission now.

>>583945280
>daily shores
oh goodie it's like a real F2P chink gatcha now....

Moving exp to dailies was the only way you were going to counter poopsocks in any way. How much you want to counter them is inversely proportional to how efficient pure grinding is. They could go so far as to make it so all of your exp comes from completing a few dailies/weeklies, and then you are only gated by being able to get on every day/week. Of course now people will complain about not having anything to do after playing their one game.

It's all a balancing act and there is no good solution.

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>>583949092
The solution is to just reduce the goddamn exp requirements for levels and then balance things by the already-existing item price system, instead of gating it behind 100 hours of playtime. It's so fucking stupid. There is absolutely no reason someone should have to play this much just to be able to compete with me as I roam around with T4 armor, BMR with AP, etc

>>583947420
>>583949092
Its just like that one anon was theorising, a set of missions or quests that can stack up and give you the most XP. If they stack up for a week, then even wagies can keep up with the overerall game progression. You would still be able to get XP outside of the quests, but it would be a lot more inefficient.

I don't know if thats actually the system that theyre going for, or if thats the correct system, but its the only way I can imagine to keep people close together in the progression race.

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>>583949620
But then poopsocks would grind everything in a day, get bored, and leave. Suddenly you've just lost the core player base, the people that will be keeping lobbies alive years down the line. It costs them more casual players, I'm about to not have almost no free time here soon enough, but reducing exp requirements is not a strict upgrade for every player.

For the record, I don't think they are doing the balancing act very well. A 70% cut in time needed is probably due.

>>583949620
>be a new wardogs player
>learning the ropes
>get nuked by endgame unlock players during thhe season because the metagamers with no life are reaching max unlocks within 3 days
yea man, reduce the xp grind instead of making it longer so the sweats are not able to unlock literally everything that counters everything else they have an issue with

>>583949092
>It's all a balancing act and there is no good solution
Making the good equipment expensive is a good solution. You can rape casuals but you won't be profitable. There is absolutely no reason not to equip the best gear available to you currently.

>anti-vehicle weapons locked behind support grind
What did they mean by this?

>game starts
>pick blue
>team is first to circle
>everyone is in the HZ chillin and having a good time
>humvee tries to run me over
>dodge and start to shoot driver
>get shot in the back of the head
>in the span of 20 seconds red came over the hill and wiped everyone
I can't wait until I'm payed extra to join this shit team

>>583950843
>because the metagamers with no life are reaching max unlocks within 3 days
Neet virgins already hit endgame in under a week. Exp grind doesn't effect poopsocks in any way, it only stops casuals from enjoying the game. Once the casuals leave the loser neets will only have eachother to fight and will also leave.

>>583951648
Their VISION was and still is to have 5k players.

>>583952407
bro thinks that letting the casuals have all the unlocks will have them compete at the same level as the tryhard sweats that are trying to go e-sports competitive
you're retarded, just say it

I know it's a pipe dream, but wardogs esports tournaments would be so fun to watch.

>>583952762
Kill yourself, faggot. Casuals should be able to at least fight back against discord tranny neets. There is literally nothing a gamerdad can do against a squad of nolife grinders in a humvee. This game is going to be a ghost town if they don't stop pandering to the seal clubbing faggots.

>read s2 news
>lose hope
well it was fun while it lasted

>>583953310
You can at least have fun for about one (1) week. Stop dooming bro

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So now that Lonestar(blue) will have XP and CASH buffs, will that just cause everyone to flock to them? Now real Crayon Eaters like myself might not be able to get in? I have been a blue player since day 1. Rarely played any other team and never on purpose. FUCK! I just want to be BLUE AND EAT CRAYONS!!!

>>583953192
that's the point you absolute fucking retard, if you extend the grind the fuckwad sweatshits are not going to have an answer to everything that the casuals play with
you let everyone have everything instantly - now the tryhard sweats are just countering all the casuals farming them and making them give up playing the game
like do you lack imagination? or are you able to have a "I'm never wrong" approach because you know no one fucking cares about your shit tier opion as it never gets implemented (good)

>>583953967
nta, but it's merely delaying the inevitable same boring outcome if you follow that argument. And the argument barely stands as is because once they have tier 4 armor and AP rounds, it's already over. Even if they don't have all the role-specific stuff unlocked. The game should be balanced around money. Let the sweats grind out millions and buy 10 Havocs in a match for the lulz, I welcome that shit. But at least let me buy a counter for the fraction of a cost to have my fun attempting to wreck at least one. If this scenario happens now, chances are high I can't even buy a counter because I've been playing medic, for instance. And having step-ladder progression where the previous gun in the branch becomes obsolete by every new unlock is beyond retarded for a game like this.

>>583953967
>you let everyone have everything instantly
Disingenuous nigger. I just think that casuals should at least be able to experience *some* if the unlocks before wipe. No one who has seen a vagina will bother grinding 150 hours to unlock endgame gear before wipe. This game will be DOA on release because the devs cater to dumbass losers like you. You are so retarded I think you might actually be a pajeet.

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>>583953310
Someone shilled GZW to me in this general and I am very happy

>>583954821
I've never seen a vagina and even I can't be bothered to grind for endgame unlocks, shit's ridiculous.

>>583955210
The grind genuinely is obscene. I don't think the grinders really understand the amount of hours required to unlock shit. The casual gamer plays *maybe* 10 hours per week meaning he will not even reach 35 in a single skill before wipe. The money system is basically pointless at the moment so I really don't get why the devs don't use that to balance high end gear.

>>583954821
>let the casuals experience unlocks
they have the firing range for that you shit, call me a pajeet one more time you fuckwad
I've played games for longer than you have been alive

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>>583955869
>they have the firing range for that you shit
Bait or actual retard, call it.

>It's not FAIR WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MOMMY

>>583956145
its just that simple, they let everyone unlock everything in 10h? game's dead in the next 3 months
your call fuckwad

>>583953790
neither made me event consider trying """community""" servers despite all the shilling so I highly doubt it.

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>>583921409
>INCREASING PROGRESSION GRIND
Lies

>>583956706
>*even

>>583953790
yes, blue is going to be the new green
this won't be stated anywhere, but will simply happen due to the shrewd self-interest of elite players with higher intelligence and game skill

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we cringe posting now?
the S2 video kinda made me lose all desire to play today

>>583956861
They literally said they're stretching out the progression to lower rank disparity. They're lying in either statement.

>>583924505
the devs are either retarded or trolling all the retards sucking their dick because they can't see the astroturf

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>>583957263
>They literally said they're stretching out the progression to lower rank disparity
You listened but you didn't hear.
What they said in the video was that at the end of Beta 2, they had bad progression, so they modified it for EA launch to slow it down.
Now they're going back and continuing to tweak it

Imagine picking any team but red

>>583936602
all they had to do was give an auto-select boost
and it tries to level out players based on WD lvl and total class levels

This game is designed for 5,000 poopsocks and you're not one of them

>>583958142
then poopsocks leave because there's no one to mog
they cut servers and laugh all the way to the bank

>content creators were given access to extended/full patch notes to record videos beforehand
kek this game is a joke. would refund it if i could

>>583958932
This happened to another game (Total War: Warhammer III End Times DLC) I play and the e-celeb content creators got to play it for 100s of hours a month before actual release, and it still released in a buggy state with game breaking bugs

>season 2 they're nerfing the fuck out of building
>when fobs are already dead
So now the game is just going to be a shittier battlefield with a grindy progression system. Glad they're already moving away from the things that made the game unique in any aspect

>>583959383
>season 2 they're nerfing the fuck out of building
Are there any actual numbers? They didn't talk about it in their official S2 preview.

>>583959486
>Are there any actual numbers?
no
that's a doompost based on 0 facts whatsoever

>>583959678
And this is a shillpost based on 0 facts whatsoever

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>>583959486
it's in the streamer/youtuber-exclusive patch notes. you have to go watch some faggot content creator to get the full patch notes LMAO
https://youtu.be/VysfbIx0Pjg?si=qyzm5CrI2SR0ZckV
some redditor wrote out some of the values from the video, since i can't stand watching these types of people and didn't watch the video myself i've attached a pic of his gay post

>>583959678
mindless fuckwit, you deserve everything bad that happens to you drone

>>583959383
>>583959486
look here
look
listen
you're only supposed to build/mortar until you unlock the MAWS and Grenade Launcher just as the devs intended

each season will be
>early season FOB stronk
>mid season it's doable with counters available against you
>late season you never build a FOB again bc you then use or sell Grenade Launcher in little bird

except poopsocks will play late game strats in mid game because they all chose blue for extra xp/money to stomp on poors and working joes

so no loadouts for season 2? Thats a yikes from me
Good thing they spent all that time and effort into that gambling system in a game where money is worthless if you posses a modicum of skill and dont care about skins :^)

>>583959773
>doors are 250
Fucking kek.

>>583959773
>talon has 5 second reload
well there goes any hope for AA

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>>583959773
>a door now costs 5 full stacks of building materials

every time I buy a fun loadout I die instantly and any time I go really cheap I live for ages, help the team and at least go fairly positive on money

>>583959773
>builders might have to learn how to actually make defensible FOBs and learn how to defend them
Good changes honestly. It's ridiculous some of these FOBs made by guys who do nothing but build, activate drill, and then die. Like holy fucking shit can you please make a bunker? Some sandbag positions? Some small hesco blocks that provide excellent hard cover against most threats? jfc

>>583961167
making it more expensive won't suddenly make those builders any more intelligent than they already are. what happens instead is those retards end up with a half finished fob now because they're too stupid to build one without running out of supplies

>talon nerfed
12 Verbas in an Ural is now our only hope

>>583961291
Surely eventually someone will figure out that it's better to just have single stack tall Hesco outer walls and then make a second interior wall that is full of bunkers and other killbox fortifications, right? Right???

I think I've figured it out. The other day the devs were complaining about too many people running logistics. What they actually want is for FOBs to be completely nonfunctional so they can show up with their clan and shoot naked support players. THAT'S THE VISION. It's all about getting people to think there are other ways to play their game besides assault, and then killing them with assault while on lunch breaks.

>>583961590
Spotted the mortarcuck

>a basic kit is 7k
>rezzing 3 people and getting a kill while standing in the hotzone is like 3k at the best unless the dudes you rez go absolutely apeshit and feed you assist money
if season 2 doesn't seriously lower the cost of actual fighting gear or significantly increase the amount of money for kills with ARs/SMGs/Shotguns I don't think I can keep playing this

>>583961862
I probably hate mortars more than most of the player base. It's the bremer and gate nerfs that I find egregious. People were just getting good at putting up bremer walls, but now we will have to go back to hescos and get raided from every any direction at any time. I might not even touch support anymore, it's going to be such a waste of time.

>>583959678
I literally wrote all of the lealed patchnotes right above you blind retard
>>583932479
>>583932651
>>583932817

>>583962556
Your stupid faggot hesco death-tombs are garbage too. Those are useful only for protecting specific things, like the fob device or a drill. Otherwise you're just ensuring that your defenders have no way to shoot at anyone outside of the FOB. How about you use some regular Hesco walls and actually build some fucking recon towers and bunkers, faggot? Maybe then we could shoot them before they even get the chance to jump over.

>>583962759
Retard. I'm the one guy in the fob that built recon towers and sits in them with a real gun.

>>583962276
Good news: no one asked you to play this

>>583962998
If that were true then you would understand why Bremer tombs are horrible. The enemies WILL get in, no matter what - your walls are just an obstacle to prevent it from happening without a concerted effort. The only thing that can really stop an assault is actual defense.

>>583961167
>Retarded fobbits keep building walk-in shooting galleries with 10 gates
>Devs are literally forced to quintuple the price of doors just so retarded fobbits stop building so many of them
Honestly, beast mode.
If the fobbits don't learn after their bases keep dying, then they will learn once they have to choose between actual walls or a hall of doors.

>>583957619
Why did you cut out the part where they literally say they opted going for a slower progression?

>>583959773
>the easiest/weakest part of your base that is always targeted is now 13x more expensive
>loses to an initial $550 investment (+$250 for each additional) against your $7500 FOB + $800 hammer to build one door

I've been one to build bunkers watching entrances in FOBs, but it doesn't matter because it's entirely dependent on if your team wants to play FOB

>>583962276
they're just recreating the K shaped economy
>poopsock/unemployed/genuinely good players can get enough kills to justify kits
>everyone else running budget kits
>budget kits keep you in green
>run support for better margins to unlock what the higher tier are using
>more easy targets for poopsocks to keep snow balling
>btw they are playing blue now and get new stuff just that quicker

>>583962556
>don't play support
>don't get counters to vehicle players
A less devastating but easily changed nerf would be to limit certain buildables per FOB
>cap on bremer, drills, and weapons would be good enough

>>583962759
>build bremer wall with integrated towers with hescos behind so team can shoot from entire wall
>building containment zones with ground bunkers watching the inside as a pseudo keep
I bet most people building FOBs just want Verbas and MAWS so they can play the game and don't actually care if it's good
idk how you fix this

>>583963367
I have to build tunnels with 2-3 doors watched by bunkers because retards don't close them still

>>583962747
>everything costs more supplies
>in a patch where logi rewards are heavily buffed
not a nerf

>>583962556
so people are going to stop building bremer walls because the price has gone up by *checks notes* 17 build supplies...?

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>Devblog drops
>People memeing about blues needing dev intervention to win
>People happy medic finally having a really good progression system
>People discussing drill changes and if they actually make a difference
>People discussing ideas for how to actually balance poopsockers and casuals
>Generally good vibes
>Time hits early morning South Asia
>Doomposting
>Speedreading
>Posting reddit posts
>Posting reddit post reactions about an eceleb about leaked patchnotes
>When the leaked patchnotes have been in the thread for hours
We need a great firewall, but just to keep the global south (including jeets and a*stralians) from mixing with the civilised world

>>583966269
it's time to face the hard truth: the toxic posting isn't jeets waking up, it's americans getting home from work

>>583963207
You have to build the box. If you don't a guy with a bushmaster will shoot you in the back of the head while doing any of the other fob related activities. I think you think that you can't put up recon towers if you have bremers, but that's just untrue on a lot of different levels.

>>583965560
Yes. You already can't put up a full wall of bremers around a drill tower without logistics. Doubling the price will make them unusable because you wont know if you are going to have the necessary logistics to sustain an expensive base until after the walls are already up.

>>583966647
what kind of tower fobs are you building where the outer wall isn't covered by the mats in the fob plus the two pallets you brought on your ural

>>583966557
Anon this is 4chan, we're all neets here
I mean look in the thread, over 200 hours in a single month. Thats over 7 hours a day. Do you really think those people have a job?

>>583966920
>just take the time to drive the ural out goy
>I promise I'll give you time to put walls up before the first raid

>>583967204
actually, i have been looking at the thread, and what i see is a lot of people crying that they can't unlock everything with the 10 hours/week they have to play

>>583967248
>he's jumping out of a helicopter, placing a fob, and praying someone else will supply him
that must have a pretty low success rate

>>583967204
I have 233. Stay mad.

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>>583965030
>Oh no guys its so overrr, we cant build 10 gates that get turned to dust as soon as mortars start flying or raiders start clawing at the walls
>Oh no we actually have to build good mortars instead of slapping a dozen out in the open
>Oh no concrete walls are more expensive even though a lifted concrete wall is worth as much as 4 stacks of HESCO blocks, boohoo (and you can now place barbed wire on top)
>Oh no drills are now ... 22% more expensive, oh no
>However will the poor logistics network cope with this increased demand for building supplies
Meanwhile
>Drivers now get increasing bonuses for deliveries, which will push even more people into driving and will help to prevent that endgame slack where logistics come to a crawl because its not worth it.
>Driving tree gets a better Kodiak, a version of it with a fucking .50 cal, an anti air tank to destroy all r*tor scum, and a cheaper more cost effective tank
But yeah guys its so ober, time to troon out its so over for FOBs

>>583967663
Getting even a few walls and recons up before the enemy team gets there is the most important part of building a fob. If you are getting there after some fully kitted guys have been dropped off on top of your tower, you might as well just give up on building a real base that game. Praying someone brings a few pallets is a lot better than praying all of the little naked fobits don't get massacred in the few minutes I'm not there.

>>583941350
I think the best use for .50 cal car is going to be raiding enemy logistics routes, especially with the stacking rewards for pallet runs encouraging more people to drive trucks throughout the game. Might be quite good for ambushing unsuspecting little birds as well. The crew being completely exposed doesn't matter all that much when the enemy probably isn't going to get an opportunity to shoot back.

>>583967663
The FOB has enough build supplies in it for a quick and dirty hesco perimeter.

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It's kinda stupid that supplying players and getting supplied assists count as support xp when people buy stims and meds out the back of my ambulance.

PS. MG Ural can tank a maaws and wont even be disabled I fucking love this thing

Still no word on anti cheat/china? My ONE request is being ignored.

>>583973437
You didn't request loud enough

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what, exactly, is half my team doing outside the circle on the enemy side???

>>583975112
Camping either helis or urals

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killed a tank with arty just after he entered the zone lol

>>583975702
>2mil
i can tell you never do anything fun in game

>>583975702
This is criminal behavior

>>583976023
genuinely unsure if this is because you think 2 mil is too much or too little

>>583975112
They will probably have fun and will lose you the match

>>583976023
Just stop playing infantry and your money will keep going up.

>>583976023
if you're a fobbit and good at it, it's fun. idk how heli pilots do it and drivers might as well stick a gun in their mouth, there's no way they're not insane. Medic is also lucrative and sniper is piss easy once you hit BMR/.50. don't even need to be good at the game

>>583979245
>drivers might as well stick a gun in their mouth, there's no way they're not insane
once you unlock the mg humvee, most driving xp comes from vehicle-mounted weapon kills

>>583976023
i enjoy flying the lakota, which is quite profitable, though i try to mix it up and do fun stuff now and then even if it burns cash
both artillery and artillery-hunting are pretty low profit honestly, though they can be a pretty big help to the team sometimes

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You'll be seeing me in blue team exclusive going forward (Season 2 only)

tried to comeback after not playing for a week but i'm just getting raped in every gunfight

>>583982890
>not playing for a week
This game is for poopsocks, not filthy casuals like you

>>583982738
Fobbits on blue team are going to be so insanely well supplied by anyone looking to just logi and chill.

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>>583983614
i am going to have a havok in like 3 days with this shit

>>583985332
imagine if this was triple 3s
>>583983614
i hope they don't build like morons

I fully predict all current green will now be blue and you'll be spamming that team upon joining instead

>>583982738
this is a terrible bandaid fix. cant imagine what their codebase looks like if they cant implement a bonus for choosing a random team instead

>>583985476
Don't worry, nobody on green or red knows how to build either.

Doomgawds won

>>583985918
Not to mention they can't even manage an ingame lobby system to play with your friends. OR loadouts. Did they even talk about loadouts at all? I'm not watching a whole hour of these retards.

>>583989292
Copesissies never stood a chance.

>>583932651
>Making Gates cost 800 fucking supplies
>Making the AA even more useless than it already is
>Making hammers even slower at building
I genuinely hope this is fake. Are they trying to make it so building FoBs is just useless? I have literally never seen anyone complain about FoBs existing in this game, why are they trying to make them horrible?

>>583932651
What are mortar triple shots? Are they random?

>>583990178
>>Making hammers even slower at building
This just means more time for dumbfucks to build a staircase for green team before you finish the wall.

>>583932651
Mortars costing 800 supplies is also a bad change honestly. On the surface it sounds good, they did need to limit and nerf mortars. But increasing their supply cost that much without changing anything else just makes the problem worse. The FoB meta has always been rushing mortars before the enemy does so you can destroy their mortars before they get built. With this change if you don't setup mortars first you're shit out of luck, since your mortars being destroyed is going to obliterate your FoB economy.

>>583982738
I'll be dumping so many loads of pallets right at the edge of cz

>>583991372
You could fly the extra 2 seconds and dump them in the fob

>season 2 adds nothing of value or changes to the current pitiful meta
so... whens season 3?

>>583991461
>fly
riiiiight.....

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Kinda interested in seeing how many people come back after the wipe.

Marathon in particular had major [self reported] burn rate due to fist wipe, which comes up to this day when people discuss marathon https://youtu.be/hv69KyKu0Z4?si=oALksHNlmHs80RSu&t=2331
Most people, including the non-employed, do not like concept of losing progress regardless of reasons given.

Is the drop-off going to be dramatic? Most likely not, it's been really slow few weeks now which will most likely mask a lot of the drop and the launch hype distorts the initial peak but in general it's going to be interesting to see how much lower it's going to be settling.

>>583993969
i'm gonna whore myself out to blue for more cash and exp
and then go back to green when i find out it's only 5%

>>583994248
5% is still kinda massive when racing to the initial unlocks like rpg/legally-distinct-igla and then maws

>>583993969
It's not going to be the promised 5k yet but after season 3 it may be.

>>583994379
You know the verba is the real life replacement for the igla right?

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who is the wardogs mascot?

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what beer?

>>583996061
>poverty necker
something cheap

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>>583995816
Probably this guy

>>583996061
>nekker
Whatever it is it wasn't worth putting in a proper bottle.

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>midnight
>first game all day
>flying into zone
>dude frontflips the lakota into the ground
>nobody revives even though we are 30m away from a fob
>leave

>>583993969
Well this is only anedoctal but me and four of my friends quit the game due to late game helispam bullshit, and we're all excited to come back with the second season. It seems like they're making AA better and i think it also helps that they didn't make the good old swede dev mistake of taking a six month vacation between the game launch and the first major patch, so the hype is still alive.

>>583921034
the whole heavy grind to unlock anything good + gaining and losing money would have worked better in a PvE game, then you could look at other players with cool gear and it inspires you to grind to do the same instead of finding it bullshit.

>>583999397
>gaining and losing money would have worked better in a PvE game
go back

>>583999397
Terrible take, take a lap

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>>583995816

>>583999310
the only thing about AA I've heard is that they are increasing reload times 5x for launcher and 8x for CIV, and that ammo costs have been increased by 4x for both.

>>584000904
But they're adding the mobile anti-air and the new jeep with a browning M2. That shit shoots 50 cal, its going to shred little birds

>>584001045
little birds should be shedded by .308 as well but that obviously isn't happening.
also if the amr 50 is anything to go by the .50cal damage is comparable to .308 ap

>>584001202
Because there is no gun that can accurately put down range boatloads of .308. The BMR mags are too small, the FAL kicks like a bitch and both get starved for ammo quickly. The minigun humvee can work, but without a proper crosshair it can be a bitch to lead although I have gotten little bird kills with it.
Next patch we get 2 more small arms .308 weapons so scavengeing ammo will be easier, and a .308 machinegun as well as reducing the PKM to a lower lvl.
Add the roaming .50cals, and the gepards in the midgame and its a pretty safe assumption that we will see Total Rotor Death.

>>583996061
For real for a sec, drinking beer during a time like this is poor judgement. Makes Brammer look weak and unprofessional. Share a beer with your buddies after the job, whatever. Don't drink while you are doing a fucking press release. Poor form.

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>>584003343
>Because there is no gun that can accurately put down range boatloads of .308

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Reading back over everything again, pilots are getting absolutely raped next patch.
Theres no new items, not even reshuffling the pilot tree for shits and giggles, and only minor buffs.
Buffs:
Talon reloads slightly slower (but the build cost is the same, why wouldn't fobbits just build more, especially now that mortars are way more expensive)
Trolls can't steal flares from their vehicle inventory anymore
And uh, thats about it.
Meanwhile nerfs:
2 new armed vehicles, one which exists specifically to counter you.
Havoc cost almost doubled, will now require almost 20 kills just to break even on base purchase cost(ammo/repairs/fuel not included)
More LMGs and high calibre weapons to shred you/turn your cockpit into tomato paste
Lvl 4 helmet nerf might completely fuck you over, forcing them to run lvl 3 at most.
If they can't run lvl 4 helmets anymore, the new roaming or stationary m2 brownings will one shot headshot you
Parachute nerf means you will either have to fly higher for airdrops, or forced to hand and risk getting ambushed by bush wookies or a rando with an rpg.

So uh yeah, looking at it now, if you didn't like the air dominance in season 1, season 2 seems to have completely killed it.

>>584004843
Did you forget ammo cost nerf? Talon ammo now 4x as expensive

>>584004353
I said accurate anon, the mingun .308 has no crosshair and an aimcone the size of an aircraft carrier.

>>584004906
Probably negligible in the grand scheme of things. There will be way more truck drivers trying to get the .50 cal jeep and the new tank. And talons rarely work against good pilots anyway. They just wait for smoke in the air and then they flare.

>>584004843
I wonder if the extra AA and parachute nerfs will be enough to make road transports actually exist.

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does anyone have pictures of each factions character models? full renders or any sort of reference, can't find anything

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awesome

>>584006702
Was the gun dropped by another player? There's a related bug

>>584004843
>talon nerfed
>ciw nerfed
>only option is carrying shitload of launchers or invest in vehicle that gets raped by rockets both from air and ground