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The Battle Rages edition
>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.

>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>Release Dates
Name reservations on October 27th.
The journey begins November 4th.

>Previous Thread >>583911235
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fishing is the real horizontal progression
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Anya in Forever
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This is the thread
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Where is my fucking opt-in invite blizzard you fucking bloody!
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>need to be level 10 before you get a pet as hunter

damn level 1-10 as a hunter is fucking miserable, why does anybody enjoy this shit?
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real thread without fags
>>583928267
>>583928267
>>583928267
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>>583929201
Literally only fags are in that thread, they're all streamer simps.
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>>583929201
go to counselling for your obsession over trannies
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>>583929201
you are acting more like a fag with your single image OP than the actual fags
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>>583929201
Use a new op image and I'll use your thread but you won't because you're an avatarfag
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Why is Alliance full of brown americans constantly spamming about politics?
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>>583929201
>/wowfg/ thread
>no fags
You know better than that
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I feel like hunter pets should have explicitly inferior versions of other classes' abilities like mortal strike, etc.
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>>583929475
>I'M BROWN!
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>>583929543
Warrior is my least played class, never even leveled one past 20
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we're not doing this shit again
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>>583929436
Horde trade chat does the same thing, it's infuriating
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why are people whining about ice lance?
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>>583929897
Does big damage
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Prove this wrong.

>>583929897
It ruins mage t. mage main
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>>583929201
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>>583929897
instant spamming is 0 skill
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>>583929897
Because it functions as intended now
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>>583930004
Old good, new bad

Just tone down its damage slightly so that's still worth pressing, but other options like the frostbolt CoC combo still have a purpose
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demonic brand made me love warlock (more)
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>>583931224
Fuck off troon.
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>>583931224
More
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>>583931290
google male loneliness epidemic
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This is the thread
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alright, going to check to see if I can log into my charactor or if it is still broken.
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>>583933431
it really is

>>583933561
Ironforge?
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>>583933719
The charactor was in Loch Modan.
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look how old my mmowned account is, fuark
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Made a little addon: Soapstone
Lets you leave messages around WoW for other players to find.

I've always loved the soapstone messages in Dark Souls, so I made something like them for WoW Forever.

You stand somewhere, write a short note or doodle something, and leave it there. Other players see a pin on their minimap, but they can only read it once they walk up to it. You can upvote the good ones and downvote the bad ones.

It needs a small companion app to share stones between players. That's Windows only for now, and I'm working on Mac. Both are linked from the CurseForge page (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/soapstone).

It's still early and in beta, so I'd really like to hear what people think. And if you find a weird drawing in Crossroads, sorry in advance.
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>>583936852
Is there anything cleaning messages that just post links to cp or just say niggerniggernigger?
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>>583936852
>ingame pseudo peer to peer network using hidden chat channels and whispers as the transport layer
what the fuck
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How do I install mods? On the Curseforge app I don't see any Forever mods.
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>>583939789
lmao yeah, that was v1, and it technically worked. Went away from this because WoW addons can't touch the internet, so hidden addon messages were the only way to reach other players. The catch is you get about one 255-byte message per second, so a drawing took half a minute to whisper over, and only if someone who had those stones was online right then.

So now there's a small companion app. Addons can't reach the internet, but WoW does save addon data to disk and load addon files from disk. The companion syncs those files with a server, so you need it running to see anyone else's stones.

All of it is open source (MIT), cursed P2P layer included: https://github.com/georgeplendl/Soapstone-WoW
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>>583939259
You're free to post whatever. Moderation and hiding stones is coming soon.
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Peppermint Elves
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Hi, first time ever playing ANY classic content I usually just play RShaman in retail from time to time. Just from my thoughts and what looks good would this make the most sense for something at level 60?
I just like asking questions.
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wow these Dwarven inn rooms are intensely cozy. This is the Thelsamar Stoutlager Inn.
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https://www.twitch.tv/alexensual
https://www.twitch.tv/alexensual

we are all here btw
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How much gold you all sitting on? Im at 100g from flipping stuff on the auction house
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>>583946826
you don't need gold in beta
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combat rogue is surprisingly fun
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i am playing paladin but i'm getting two of my friends into forever who have never played it before (both OSRS players).
what do you think i should recommend as a class? i feel like i should give some input but i don't want to steer them away from something they might enjoy. one's thinking hunter, the other really doesn't know.
also i'm thinking PVP realm will be more "fun" but maybe it'll be an unpleasant experience for brand new players, i dunno.
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It’s been weeks and i still can’t decide on a main…
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>>583945113
Is anyone going to fucking respond?
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>>583946994
submissive sissy like you should play a healer
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>>583946897
Idk i find it fun to make gold
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>>583945113
40 is too much. we stop at 31.
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ALLIANCE SKY ELF SHAMAN FUCKING WHEN?????????????????????

I DON'T WANNA PLAY DWARF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I feel completely homeless among Forever players. On one hand, you have people arguing that it should just be Classic with absolutely no changes ever besides a new raid every now and then. On the other, you have fags that want to turn it completely into Retail 2. All I wanted was a restart of WoW that remains grounded, horizontal, but still explores the lore-based cool shit that came like Outland and Northrend.
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>>583947124
lol i do main healer usually but idk healing in vanilla seems kinda boring and since endgame is just bgs/wpvp a dps seems more fun this time…
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>>583947232
NIGGER, Im just asking about hypotheticals you stupid faggot
I even explicityly said at fucking level 60 you stupid mother fucker, jesus fucking christ I thought some NIGGERS would atleast just look at what I think might be okay at MAX FUCKING LEVEL LIKE I FUCKING ASKED AND JUST TALK ABOUT IT
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST CAN YOU ANTI-SOCIAL FAGGOTS JUST TRY RESPONDING TO EACH OTHER WITHOUT MAKING IT ABOUT POLITICS OR SUCKING OFF NIGGERS?
FUCKING JUST TELL ME YOUR OPINION ON THIS "BUILD" FOR FUCKS SAKE.
NONE OF YALL ARE EVEN WHITE I BET
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I'll keep saying it— the talent system in WoW is bad, always has been bad, and will never be good.
They need to remove it. It's impossible for them to balance it because they're retarded. You have to have the first few tiers of talents to be usable at lower levels, but also be usable for late game when you bleed into another spec with your last 10-20 points, which is why they can't balance it (since they're retarded).
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>>583947375
Play horde
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>>583939789
That's how TRP and most other information-sharing addons work
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>>583930004
He's right
Ice lance fucking sucks
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>op not the hanging troon
Shant be participating
We need to make it abundantly clear they are not welcome
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>>583947394
Fuck Outland
And fuck anywhere else that isn't azeroth
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did they accidentally give the nelf movement speed racial to human/human hunter somehow? why am i able to outrun mobs, without cc, to the point that i can get enough range to conc shot and then create an even bigger gap? i dont ever remember this being doable without something like wing clip but it's admittedly been a bit since i tried hunter
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first 10 points will go into this
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>>583947482
They did this in retail
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Where do I get bags early game without buying from players? Are all the bags past the most basic ones locked behind tailoring?
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>>583947620
Based troongatekeeper
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>>583947661
current retail talents are unironically bussin though
the shit they started doing in cata and then mop was an abomination
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>>583947646
They're totally gonna remove this eventually
It's almost as stupid as heirlooms were
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>>583928990
She and Garek should have had zombie sex
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>>583947750
craft lw
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>want to play prot warr
>don't want to tank
:/
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>>583947375
just play female troll shaman
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>>583947482
leave talent trees as is, balance them or whatever sure, but only award talent points for completing all of the content in a given zone.
h o r i z o n t a l
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>>583947624
>i want my comfy fairy princess camping with my uwu friends simulator! NO scary demon world!
No thanks!
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>>583928990
She needs her Paladin human boyfriend back first
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>>583947790
its great heirloom were shit
you get talent points earlier
>>583947806
then dont do a mix of prot and arm/fury
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>>583945113
>40 points on a single tree
What a dumb nigger.
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I hate faggot elves
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>>583928990
would simp for
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>>583947646
This seems disgustingly broken
Imagine wpvp but you have your level 40 end tree talent 5 levels earlier than your opponent
How does an arms warrior with no mortal strike beat an arms warrior with mortal strike and 4 extra talent points?
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>>583947646
you will be lvl60 already when you have 10 points
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>>583947907
>Main point is to heal
>Lets not get all the shit that increases healing
WHy are you niggers so retarded?
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I successfully bought the beta, refunded after playing for 14 days, bought the beta again, refunded again after another 14 of playing, thx for the free beta blizzard, might or might not buy the beta a third time
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Would there be any interest in creating a loose community of alliance ppl interested in world pvp in nordic region or however the regions will be done in forever? Crossroads raids, Orgrimmar stealth groups, shit like that or is this playstyle completely dead in current year? Not a guild, just "lets group up for this activity at this time"
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Professional Classic WoW player gives his take on the XP nerf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmtEe53sWh0
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>>583948026
You dont get that shit until your on your alts. Leveling to 60 and getting your profession maxed is enough for 6 points so you'd have one point in that for your second character.
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>>583948081
more healing does nothing
how much you can dps while keeping everyone alive is whats important
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>>583947646
why would i go into that when i dont plan on leveling alts?
16 points is more than enough for me. which is obtainable on one character
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>>583948110
Do europoors really?
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The usual shills are suddenly defending vertical progression on twitter.
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>>583947646
really stupid passive to add to the game since it opens up so many balance issues in both pvp and pve
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>>583948131
he is not alexensual.
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>>583945113
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/shaman/v2-005002-5033503315513151_t0/2ADCEjHGMKnPsqR1CF
Its this. Ignore retards telling you to put more into other trees. Thats not what you do in resto shaman.
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>>583945113
I dont see why not, it looks acceptable
Choose your own talents or copy a cookie cutter build on google
Its wow forever. new shit
Try what u want bozo
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>>583948131
never post mr.reddit here ever again
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>>583946945
pls advise (lust provoking image)
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>583948131
buy an ad
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>>583945113
I was thinking to do this but never played a shaman to 60 though so subject to change.
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>>583948131
Grok summarize this slop video for me
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>>583947862
>finally get a tight elf gf, but you're undead, so all your nerves are dead and you can't feel shit

what are we if not slaves to this torment?
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>>583948635
>finally get a tight elf gf, but you're undead, so all your nerves are dead and you can't feel shit

The light unironically makes you feel again
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ALLIANCE NEEDS HOT ELF SHAMANS
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>>583948241
They'll kowtow because literally everyone took "horizontal progression" in their BlizzCon announcement to mean, you know, "horizontal progression" and not whatever the fuck horizontal world expansion means. And then the same shills will say "horizontal progression is based now", same as with the dungeon XP thing.
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>>583948026
>>583948202
>>583948027
>>583948231
>>583948280
Those talents dont work in bg
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>>583947620
They are welcome. I got no problem with Transexuals.
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>>583948725
>Garek and Anya literally burn up during sex
>Both decide it was worth it as they lay there as charred husks
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>>583948779
just play horde
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>>583931224
The things a proud redblooded and brightskinned Kul Tiran Hypernationalist could teach this feldwood hoofie...
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>>583948812
I never cared about the pvp minigame but they work in the open world and in dungeons
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUyv4cgbP1A
solo GY is pretty cool
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Bros i dont even know what to do
My classic guild is going horde, fuck horde
My friends are probably going ally but they do their own thing most of the time
Do i just wing it and see if i meet any fun retards while levelling?
I dont even want to raid or grind ranks anymore and rp is cringe as hell.
I think i might just fuck around while i wait for civil war IRL
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>>583928990
Is she?
I've seen none of the WC3 characters in UC like Bernd or the silly garithos abomination.
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>>583948110
why are you doing this? IT's just $60
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>>583947646
>>583947790
I think it's overrated for leveling, but it definitely is completely busted for battleground twinks.
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>>583948812
Yes they do retard. The things that don't work in bgs explicitly state that.
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>>583949024
it's about the principle of it
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>>583948448
Part 1: Streamers and Player Data

Game balance should rely more on player behavior and data than streamer opinions. Streamers reach large audiences, but they represent a small minority with different play patterns. Feedback remains useful, though developers must decide what changes serve the wider player base.
Part 2: Dungeon XP Changes

The dungeon XP nerf reduced quest rewards heavily, then increased experience from defeated dungeon mobs. The current balance appears reasonable on paper, although direct testing has not happened yet. The preferred model rewards a first run strongly, while repeat runs remain slightly slower than questing.

Why it matters: Dungeon rewards must encourage group play without making open-world leveling feel pointless.
Part 3: First Runs and Repeat Runs

A first dungeon run could provide roughly 125 XP compared with 100 XP from open-world questing. Repeat runs could provide about 80 XP, while still offering gear, quests, and other rewards. A gradual decay from 100 to 90, 80, and 70 XP feels worse than one strong initial reward.
Part 4: Classic WoW’s Middle Ground

Open-world questing should remain the fastest overall leveling method, but dungeon farming should not feel heavily punished. Preparing quests for places like Sunken Temple should produce strong rewards during the first completion. Slower low-level gear progression also feels better than characters quickly receiving seven blue items.

Why it matters: The goal is a middle ground where preparation, questing, and dungeon farming all remain worthwhile.
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>>583948784
horizontal progression is for brownoid buy to play mmos that no one plays

nobody wants to raid 4 hours a week for 3 months to get a sword that does +2% damage to green dragonkin under a full moon in the winter, it's fucking stupid
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>>583946945
pvp is going to be an unprecedented clusterfuck but if you're playing together and like pvp then go for it.
you can't really go wrong with classes, but druid or priest leveling might be offputting.
leveling with a group as a mage feels great.
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>>583948969
just casually PUG with your friends on Alliance here and there.
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is combat rogue 1-60 just
>ss
>snd
>ss
>evis
for hundreds of hours?
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>>583949156
thanks, ever since AI I never have to give a view to these parasites
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>>583949223
that's combat rogue raiding too
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The horde atleast pays their workers lol
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>>583947646
Is this even that good? Like sure you get a bit stronger earlier when leveling alts but I doubt it's that big of a difference for most classes and you are probably better off taking the profession related talents

Obviously for twink faggotry is mandatory but only faggots do that
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ALLIANCE NEEDS TO HAVE HOT ELF SHAMANS I CAN'T GOON TO A DWARF
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>>583949223
yes, thats all it is for the entirety of pve
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>>583946945
>wpvp
You need to duel them, have them duel other classes and explain the flow chart of how fights go. Like rogue cs ks, now what?
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>>583949362
>>583949446
really? god damnit
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This is it.
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>>583949426
just play female troll shaman, that should fix ur AGP
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>>583949223
riposte
at some points garrote is worth using
blade flurry
adrenaline rush
but yeah thats about it

snd is not better than evis until 30% and even then sometimes not worth
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>guild is going horde pvp on launch.
I can't decide between rogue or priest, I could be convinced to play shaman (for ele or resto)
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i really hope mounts dont become just another number go up like in r*tail.
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>>583948779
This but another hot warlock race for alliance. Humans are cute but ive made like 4859 of them. High Elf warlock when.
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>>583948779
This but unironically, we are kinda fucked otherwise
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>Spoken addon makes questing and the world 10x more immersive and awesome.

>people boycot it because ai
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>>583949672
erm no elfs dont know to do magic anymore sorry!!!
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>>583947471
Pvp healing is way more fun and interesting than pve healing because you have to deal with people targeting you
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Behold, the ultimate 2H warrior build
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>>583949672
High Elf never. New blue elves soon.
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>>583949223
>>583949642
This is why im planning on playing Sub rogue on release. Just do backstab stuff instead. The SS spam got so boring to me. Plus rogues just feel better with dual daggers.
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Prot paladins status: castrated
Bear druids status: in the cuck chair
Shaman """tanks""" status: lol, lmao even

Prot wowyerbros...WE WON
CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP
TANKING KING F O R E V E R
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>>583930004
If pvp and pve are at odds, most players would prefer they balance around pve
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>>583949787
Ehh it's neat overall but very hit and miss and gets annoying after a while
>>583949935
Subs more the pvp specc albeit
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>>583949824
It's really annoying because everyone targets you and saves all their interrupts for you so you can't cast anything that isn't instant cast
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>>583949935
how do you expect to level as backstab anon
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>>583949661
They're going to be the game's primary form of monetization
Get ready for it
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>>583948779
you will play the fat fem dwarf and like it
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So, what's the class tier list for Forever?
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STORMWIND IS BURNING!!!!
DEATHWING IS HERE!!!!
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>>583949978
Combat daggers hybrid build was one of the best pve dps specs back in the day
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>>583949186
Yeah i guess so.
I dont even know if they're going pve or pvp or what yet though
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Everything would unironically be balanced if all Skyborne could be Shaman, Mage and Priest.
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Penance was brutally raped in October 8th 2026
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>>583949158
that's how WoW would have to do it because its stat system is boring and one note regardless of spec
DPS:
>stack hit to hit cap
>stack as much ap/sp and crit as possible
No such thing as DoT damage, or multi hit, or support builds, items with procs are rare and even then it's usually just +do more DMG/healing. You have people ITT clowning on a deep resto build because even healers are only meant to heal as little as possible and then DPS. Very shallow RPG system.
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>>583950236
Andpaladins
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>>583949787
I used to use the old AI quest text mod. Is this one better? The old one sucked with Horde races.
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>>583949993
You have to position well so they're eating hamstrings and mortal strikes before getting to you, and putting themselves in a dangerous position where they'll probably get picked off
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>>583949978
>Subs more the pvp specc albeit
I agree but im also not going to be doing any big raids or anything on them. Just normal leveling which anything works fine.

>>583950003
Ambush -> gouge -> backstab. I dunno maybe im just channeling my inner boomer but ive had fun playing a slower paced rogue where i wait for energy to pool and save up for things rather then mash button 1 till i hit button 2.
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>>583950243
I bought myself a big cake to cope with the penance rape PTSD
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Wait, so there's one megaserver but then it's split between PvE, PvP and RP mini servers? You can't swap between them? You make a character on the PvP setting and can never go to the PvE one with your main unless you make a new character?
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>>583950320
this one is much better, adds little neat rp tidbits whenever you come across cool landmarks. All optional of course. I found the horde races to sound a lot better than the alliance ones honestly, except for dwarves. The AI does dwarves really fucking well.
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>>583950436
Obviously
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>>583950436
No each ruleset is a separate megaserver
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>>583950257
this is how literally any game with character stats works, there is an optimal stat spread for a given purpose
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>>583950064
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HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA
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>>583949914
He looks like he could poz my neg hole
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>>583950323
In BGs the enemies often just rush right on top of you with mounts so it's pretty hard to avoid. Also if the enemy has a warrior he's charging your ass across the field straight away
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>>583950535
redditors say hybrid classes are only 5% weaker

did they lie?????
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>>583950654
>banned within an hour
Doomers where you at?
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>>583950654
Just ban every single streamer a day before the tournament starts. All these faggots buy gold
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i wish bladestorm was megapoggers like in wc3
i just want to run in the middle of an enemy team in a bg and watch my character turn into samuro and tear apart the allies
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>>583950654
Literally who?
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>>583950535
I haven't played mage in the beta, is there any fun gimmick to frostfire?
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>>583950436
It's first split into 3(?) regions and those regions are split into pve/pvp/rp/hc rulesets. I don't know if the auction house is shared between rulesets but the regions are completely separated
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>>583950535
i've said it before but i really hope they make crit hot streak fire mage actually work. arcane mage sux.
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>>583950817
probably some /wpsg/ insect the other namefags care about
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>>583950514
And the only purpose in WoW is damage, which only exists in one dimension, and is largely only increased by one stat. At best in raids you might have one person play a bitch spec that does less DPS than their class's typical spec to provide a debuff/buff.
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>>583950243
penance could outheal dogtober 7th, it had to happen
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Being a healer in pvp is like being a white woman at a nigger gang rape convention
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Fauuuurk bros I can't decide between warlock and mage. I don't mind shards/summoning or pet management but mage has portals, and blink. I want this to be my pvp character, any input??
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>>583950535
Smite spec should be up there with shockadins in dps
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>>583951078
That’s why Druid is the best healer from a practicality standpoint. Others don’t have the escapes or the plays, just pure throughput
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>>583950535
What site is this?
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>>583951078
cant wait
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>>583951141
>pvp
mage. don't let the doomerfags get to you. mage always wins.
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>>583951141
you should think about how it's going to play in pvp and if you want to do that.
you're going to be playing frost in pvp. which is fun if you like that, but that's what it'll be.
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>>583950654
KWAB
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>dragonbreath chili recipe mysteriously removed from all it's vendors
lmao these fucking devs removing shit because of the pvp tournament on request by one of their streamer buttbuddies trying to money launder
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>>583949787
Does it also read out the stuff for you?
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>>583950481
>>583950495
>>583950980
Oh, there's a region split as well? Thank God, I thought I'd have to play on the same server as Asmongold.
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we need more hunters
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>>583951141
Warlock will win against casters but lose against melee. Mage is more balanced but a lock will rape your mage.
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>>583951078
>have movement speed increase at all times now not just outdoors
>we have the tier set movespeed ontop of it
>natures grasp is free and you can use it in forms
>can entangling roots 3 people
Try and catch me retard.
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>>583951610
This is why we need dungeon finder
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>>583951420
Can't really do all regions in one server because of latency. People would cry about joining a chink party and having 300 ping
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>>583951610
hunter inv
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>>583951610
>last name ttv
i hate it
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>>583951610
>people play the strongest class
You don't say!
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>>583951704
also because of this
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>>583951259
For me it's more about playstyle. I've played lock on anniversary, but one thing I didn't like was having 0 mobility. If someone's on you they're staying on you except if you used coil or baited an interrupt into fear. Even then, chasing people is really hard.
>>583951275
Thats the other side of it, frost and maybe frostfire will be the viable specs. I can see mage game loop getting boring just nova into shatter over and over
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Why are nelfs like this?
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>>583951610
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They reverted that one rogue weapon back to blue lol
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>>583951756
>last name ttv
>no ttv channel even exists for the first name
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>try to play forsaken kingdom
>game update kills my saves
>restart
>go to sign in today
>all my new saves are gone
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
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>>583930004
kek they just keep adding retail shit huh
give it a few months post release and people will be leaving in droves, yearning for another fresh 'nilla because aggrend has no fucking business changing anything
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>>583948978
I have a theory that The Baron in Ruins was supposed to be the Garithos Abom but they didn't want to put the work in to make the model.
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Do we have /wowfg/ guilds for NA and EU? We playing on the PvP ruleset, right? We ain't PvE pussies?
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>>583951034
I mean this is false on its face. try doing MC or BWL without resistance gear. ret will likely be maintaining some balance of sp and str, feral is going to want some level of int, same with shaman and hunter

adding more roles does not mean there is not some optimal distribution of characters and their stats in your raid
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if i make an NA ally pvp guild will frens join
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>>583928649
Can you stupid faggots stop baking early? Last thread didn't even hit bump limit.
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>>583951826
They're only like this when human men are in the vicinity
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>>583949398
No they don't, they just have adventurers go around and smack them with clubs.
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>>583950778
how come snutz is still playing?
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>>583951968
>try doing MC or BWL without resistance gear
you don't need any
the buff from the blackrock spire orcs is enough
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>>583951610
Look at all of those "instant decline" classes!
>>583951698
I will still just leave and try my luck with a new group if I get some hunter nigger in my run
>t. tank
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>>583952050
stfu niggy
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>>583952107
He was given gold from rogues who are able to endlessly loot dungeon chests
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>>583952050
We got some autists having thread wars so you can expect it to be a shitshow for a while unless jannies come down on them hard
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>namedropping randoms like we're just supposed to know who they are
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>>583952142
>I will still just leave and try my luck with a new group if I get some hunter nigger in my run
I wish I had the balls to just say fuck you guys and ball like that
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>play tank bear druid
>have to compete with half of the classes out there for loot drops
>don't win shit
This sucks
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>>583952050
Blame the retard spamming tranny shit making tranny threads.
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>>583952261
But Anon, how can you not know about my favorite eceleb who gets at least 100 views on his streams?
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any suggestions for streamers playing warlock? i just want to see how it plays
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>>583951610
World of Solocraft, hunters are the best class for playing alone.
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>>583952050
Kiss my ass
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>play warrior/warlock
>win
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>>583952168
kill yourself
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>multi blizzcon winner is a random
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>>583952050
this was a recycle
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>>583952379
You're the tank, you make the group and set the rules.
Invite people who wont compete for gear with you.
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>>583952414
Stop playing wow because it's not a good streamer game
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what if they added arenas
BUT
only 5 mans
matches will be chaotic and unbalanced no matter what so nobody will be crying for nerfs because two classes combo together too hard
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>>583952461
Fuck off before I cut some bacon off of your back, niggy piggy
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>>583952432
See >>583952461
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>>583950920
not really, just getting buffs from both trees. fireball will be redundant
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>>583948317
>>583948435
I dont want to take points in the dumbass talent that just reduces pushback
Like, who cares about that?
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>>583952168
kys faggot retard nobody cares about trannies more than (You)
>>583952432
retarded faggot shut the fuck up

imagine getting some sort of satisfaction out of being a humungous dick ruining the threads with your imaginary political bullshit. just shut the fuck up already
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>>583952414
snutz is going to win the tournament again
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>>583952757
never respond to me again, looney troons
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>>583936852
very cool i'll use it once the game releases (not paying for a beta)
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What's the best class and faction for a lonely and busy with work millennial who wants to forget all worries?
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>>583952961
Rp server, alliance mage.
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>Never oom
>Never miss
>Melee suck my dick for windfury
>Casters and healers work the balls for Mana Tide
This will be me.
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>>583952660
Spell pushback reduction is mandatory for all healers and most casters in classic. If you're coming from retail, they removed pushback there.
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>>583952961
Rogue. Horde. Undead. PvP server.
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>>583952660
Applies to some fights like vael and mobs. I guess you can go without it but up to you.
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its literally a raidlog fest same as classic. Forever feels underbaked. does any of you honestly care about 30 lvl dungeons and whatnot. They should be focusing on 60 content and not only fucking raids we have enough of those
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>>583952961
horde if you want to make friends
also go RP
class really is whatever you want to play, maybe ranged dps if you dont want to worry too much
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>>583941002
Moderation is gay, just give people the option to hide whatever offends them.
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>>583952757
>imagine getting some sort of satisfaction about being a 30-45 year old pedophile spamming AI made wow porn in the threads
Kill yourself tranny freak
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>>583953194
>no instant ghost wolf
lmao
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>>583953194
Just do dual spec for it. No point gimping your damage. Now as ele, I will go into resto for mana tide every time.
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>>583931224
To this day, I'm still mad Warlocks don't get to use Enslave Demon as Tame pet. It would give so much use to all the other demon shits out there, including Satyrs,
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just tuned into alexensual for the first time, saw him clicking and buttpull within 15 seconds... this your mans?
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>>583953425
>No point gimping your damage
Oh that's true wouldn't want to slack on all those tight enrage timers, burst windows, prio add burns that vanilla is known for.
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>>583953659
The only one shilling alex here is alex
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>>583951385
yes, it samples the voices from the npc to read it as best as it can in the characters voice. Really immersive.
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alchemist or leatherworking for sham???
i feel like 50% of people are picking lw which is lame but alchemy probably isnt worthwhile until 60...
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>>583953712
-50 dkp
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>>583953203
Wait so its for any type of damage?
Like a fucking dot could give me spell pushback?
Who the fuck likes that shit?
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>>583953792
There's no reason not to go LW on mail or leather classes
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excheese me
nice to cheese you all
can anybody tell me why anyone would pick blacksmithing/leatherworking when raid/pvp gear will always be more poggers than crafting gear?
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>>583949787
>immersive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFRlJDakAM
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>>583954018
what about being a special snowflake
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>>583954034
Holy shit you bodied that freak
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>>583953792
Alchemy is a ready supply of mana pots if you plan on healing dungeons. Ofc you can just buy those from the AH but that can be a time investment in Classic and sometimes it's nice just being able to brew them out in the wild. You also get the Int camping buff from Herbalism which is nice.
Dunno how strong BoP LW shit is gonna be.
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does this only activate if you get the killing blow yourself or does your party killing a mob also trigger it?
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>>583954129
yourself
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>>583949787
What we really need is proximity based voice chat. I know that players tried to make an addon in Classic but layering completely fucked up how it worked.
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whats teh good demo warlock build please
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>>583953489
Nah, demons retaining their elite status while under control is way more entertaining than turning into nerfed pet forms.
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>>583954309
its a beta not a demo
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Everybody hates duty finder till i have to stand around asking 45049 people who will ignore me just so i can do a deadmines run on my rogue and get the quests completed, i dont even care about loot drops.
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>hybridcucks still mindbroken by le tax
Tigole really did a number on these faggots
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>>583949940
Shaman aka chudmale aka cuckmale aka totemcucky aka sissyport is the most KEKED, GAPED, RAPED and CASTRATED class in this game lmao.
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>>583954034
yeah it was really bad a couple years ago
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NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR NEW BELLULAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUjD-qzQVds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUjD-qzQVds
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never cheat, never lie
dragon pussy until i die
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>>583954129
You have to get the killing blow, unless Vampiric Embrace is on the target.
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>>583954597
>retailslop
doesn't belong here.
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>>583954671
i didnt watch it
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>>583952632
See>>583952461
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>>583954552
I remember back when I played ret in TBC and felt like a total operator whenever I used my sword/shield macro to snag the boss after a tank death.
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>>583952618
>five man class stacking in arenas
would.
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did they lower the CD on vampiric embrace yet
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>>583952618
What if Arena's locked into a specific load out of gear/spells/items for your class instead of allowing literally anything.
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>>583954623
do her with anduin
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>>583954623
>Using your own scales as a cage
Dracthyr are next level.
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>>583954978
no thats lame, you're lame
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>arcane missles always shoots 3 missiles even if you get hit, making it do more dps if you lost cast time

now this is epic
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how do you go from this
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>>583954309
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/warlock/v2-00050032302013_t0_r1/1DHGJMQp
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TO THIS?!?
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>>583949940
shamans were never main tanks anyways
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>>583955347
>>583955154
Oh no it doesn't have permanent uptime anymore? How awful.
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>>583955437
>shamans were never tanks anyways, they are good cucks that give daddy totems
ftfy <3
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>>583955521
yea now it has zero uptime, really good design
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how come I cant get cute boys to play with me
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>>583955347
was shit before and its even worse now
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>>583955578
il still get invites spam. cope
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>>583955625
cus you're a fat tranny
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what does it mean when guildies call me an egg
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>>583955347
What's bad about this? The spriest is going to want to do damage rather than some dumb heal
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>>583955347
shouldve made it last 10 seconds for consistency
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>>583955347
>>583955154
sure would be a shame if...
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>>583953194
>no instant gw

are you trolling
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>>583955795
It means you're still working through it.
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>>583955823
the devs are counting it against our dps, its pretty useless 99% of the time, can resist or be dispelled and were getting punished for having it
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still no beta opt in invite
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>>583955924
is there some sort of decursing bar for the ui or do i have to get decursive?
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>>583953792
In classic I can never keep my herb/alchemy caught up with my level so I end up in zones where I cant pick ingredients. LW doesnt have that issues.
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>>583955021
>dracthyr
Literal dragon
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>>583956026
>>583955606
Oh lmao you guys are pvp retards, now it makes sense
>>
ALEX ENJOYS FORLO
>>
DSPensual
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>>583956121
In PvE it isn't relevant at all you can autoattack and win in PvE
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>>583956223
No you cannot you fucking dipshit
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>>583956121
no i added it in to cover all bases, its shit in PvE you are always in the caster or healer group, they dont need heals they arent taking damage most the time and the healers are on it, its just wasted overheal almost all of the time
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>>583956223
In what fight?
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>>583956276
>PvE is acktually really hard guys stop making fun of me!
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>>583955104
>I LOVE PvP!
>But I hate fair competition.
See this is why no one trusts the PvP servers.
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>>583956402
not him but it's lame as fuck
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Did you all decide on your main?
What race/class combo and why?
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>>583956280
Nobody is going to complain about free healing throughput.
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>>583956402
>its not real pvp unless we march 5 paces
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>>583956490
dorf shaman because dorfs are epic and shamans are epic and can do multiple roles and alliance doesnt want to play them for some reason
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>>583956121
>raidlogging pve baby calling anyone a retard.
Lmao
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>>583956490
Orc male warlock. It's both the coolest race and class and the most lore appropriate. Also goblins aren't playable yet.
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Why are horde players like this?
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>>583956502
the spriest is because its useless and is counted heavily to our allowed amount of damage due to it, as the devs have said, we want it removed to get something better for us
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>>583956569
i will because i dont have a choice. would much prefer a skelf tho, or at least hit instead of crit for racial
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>>583956402
If you want cuckold's "pvp" play some faggot easy mode sissy game like dota.
Adult high test males play real pvp games like vltima online or wow, games where risk is everywhere and you can die at any time and you gotta be on a fashy look out, ready to fight anytime, anypoint no sissy safe spaces or similar estrogenated faggot shitte.
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>>583956402
this is an rpg you faglord, go play cawadoody
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>>583956696
dorf are epic and if u dont agree u are NOT epic
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Blizzard's big plan for Quel'thalas is revealing all the remaining High Elves have become Void Elves and they will be playable for both factions.
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>>583956702
>admits pvp servers are low-stake but still cowers in fear on his safe-space server
whats your argument?
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>>583956702
There is 0 risk in WoW PvP, it's a complete minigame.
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Reset incoming
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>the final destruction talent is
>incinerate, its like shadowbolt BUT FIRE
wow incredible, amazing idea blizzard
>>
ITS FUCKING OVER



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