Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9647 - Peak Trio Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI >Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #17 - October 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
Previous Zone: >>583945023Another thread is up, though
>>583964073There is only one peak trio
this better or worse than the 25th party?
Thundercat is peak brehs
Shadow the Hedgehog
yoo lady what a banger
IDW is trash
>>583982865SonicKnuckles El Hermano de Miles Prower
>>583982880If there is no game announcement then this was definitely fucking worse in almost every aspect which is kind of an achievement by itself considering 25th was so bad that half the stream didn't have audio.
>>583982865SONIC HEROES
Douge
Sonic is a movie franchise now. If you accept that now you'll be happier.
>yfw the next nigger who goes on stage is also fucking drunk and clearly doesn't give a shit
Leak issue 91 and no one gets hurt.
anyone else think move your feet is a banger?
this franchise is so fucking depressing
>>583964451Previous >>583963958
>>583982865Not even Fortnite wanted this.
the wildest part about the thundercat thing imoall the people like "duhhh sonic fans when they hear music that's not from a video game"like, browe're watching a sonic eventlike, sonic the hedgehog, famous video game franchisegod forbid we expect music from a video game to be at an event celebrating a video game franchise
>>583983402Team Sonic would be wasted on Fortslop
Was that it?
That trailer continues to fuel my belief that only the Japanese know how to write these characters. Why does Sonic sound like a bitch?
Kneel
>Over half the venue already left
>>583983402They preserved the best boy’s true form instead of mangling him into a lanky robofreak
rougebros...maybe is because of covid?
>>583983637Why can't Sega makes their Tails look this good
I hate Tails
>>583983571westerns only read BNHA and JJK
>>583983571>Why does Sonic sound like a bitch?Because it's Roger.>b-but muh voice directionNo. Roger sounds bad as Sonic no matter fucking what you tell him to do. It's just his voice. It sounds bad as Sonic. Replace him.
>>583983691You don't have a fucking choice mister. Now LOVE BOY OR ELSE!
>>583983583
>>583983637It says this one that follows you around is a hologram, though.Kinda ruined it for me.
>>583983786This image scares me.
>>583983786Tails is maximum and BO3
2000s Sonic embraced rock as it was on the decline, 2020s Sonic will do it with hiphop
>>583983820Posted “posted it again award” again award
>Sweet Escape is playingLOL
Did you niggas seriously want Blaze to kill innocents in the Metal Virus arc?
>>583983908Why's that?
>>583983786NiNails...
alright, let's see if this other nig does any better. the bar's on the floor.
Boom here comes the boom
>>583983890The real one is still there tho, being a bro flying you around
IT'S JIGGABOO TIME
>>583983943>2020s Sonic>embracing any music but EDM and nathan sharpI'd like to believe you anon but we're already halfway through and the clock is ticking.
is this mofo really starting off his set with rhianna and calvin harris??
>norrmieshitnooooooooooooooo
More music??? Where is my movie trailer
>>583983571>Why does Sonic sound like a bitch?Roger.
This show rules
>>583984169you only get ben black in german at the beginning saying hi
Okay let see how this guy is->Generic pop song from the 2010'sI'm turning the stream off. Good night everyone.
I think the Sonic series was better as "cringe" than embarrassing like it is now.
So Memories and Beyond focuses on Tails? The first teaser barely showed him, but he's the focus of the new one.>>583984169They're not announcing anything today.
>>583983786>>583983913>>583983908This image arouses me. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8q11q0T9K7ky-bmIX1yqt1ywF2KEm3d5ndUNA52kwQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>583984017A Sonic fan shouldn't have a gun.
okay it's not sonic music but at least it's not... whatever the fuck thundercat was
>>583984240and now he's switching over to daft punk's one more time
>>583984124Yeah, I use this glider on all my presets. Sidekick, though I'm going to replace him with Chopper next month.
>>583983641I think they had like three to five slots to fill and only announced two today.
>>583984040When's the trans follow up to this?
I’m so tired, the western side of this franchise can do shit right man.
Ken Penders wrote the movie
>583983956Cry some more.
Is the discord coming back soon?
>>583984230>>583984246This is bullshit. We're almost 150 days away from the release.
Booo Thundercat is better
>>583984380where do i get the tickets?
>>583984004
>>583984373No, they can't and never did.
>>583984373The western side of the franchise is literally just vibes and crappy comics. It only struck gold accidentally with the movies, but that's only because Hesse managed to get the design changed.
>>583964073Melty removed the Booru link again.
this feels like the steve aoki concert from 2021 except it doesn't have shit SFM animations
I miss Thundercat so much
>>583984274Sonic truly did neuter Tails huh?
>>583984274I actually have multiple guns. My latest one was a Mossberg bolt action.
Krack was right
>>583984246>So Memories and Beyond focuses on Tails?It's a multi-episode thing, as far as I remember. It's supposed to focus on everyone's first memories with Sonic, hence why you see Amy tied up in Stardust Speedway. Tails would be first if they're going in order and the date was for the first episode.
>>583984747... there on the stream.Nobody saw them
>>583984508The movies are slop, I can't imagine being an adult and actually liking them.
Thought you guys would get a kick out of this as well. Got a sketch of metal sonic from hoshino, signed mania vinyl, and hoshino signed my metal sonic exclusive f4f base. Yall didn't miss much, compared to the 25th party it was mid. Was funny watching the devs get sloshed as fuck though
>>583984797It doesn't matter if they're slop. The movies actually bring an audience.
better than thundercat (the bar was in hell) but he doesn't need to drop the music every time he talks to the crowd
Stacyiona!
>>583984360>has an okay career as an artist>had a wife>troons out after drawing feet pics of that shitty circus showwhy did he do it?
>>583984797Nigga this whole franchise is for kids
>>583984772is a 10 min video
>>583984772I see.
Once again Tails will be the tech strategist guy instead of fighting alongside his companions. The new teaser did show his flashback story and he'll probably be the one to hack Metal Sonic and do some important shit and all it's just annoying that's all these people think Tails is capable of
>>583984821I'm happy you were able to find personal enjoyment and entertainment in this event. At least someone had fun because I certainly am not.
>>583984821oh you were there for the 25th event? crush 40 was just another level man , totally peak hype
>>583984821Cool
>>583984943Obviously. Not sure why you're here if you think children's franchises can't be enjoyed by adults.
>>583984772I haven't seen anything about it being multi-episode, just that it'll be a short
how does one think in their right mind go from avicii to the fucking killers???
Sonamybesties got so mad about Surge that they wrote essays in the last thread seething
Is Kishimoto there?
>>583984970Yeah I can imagine everyone watching was dissapointed>>583985052Sure was. It was night and day compared to this. Was cool meeting everyone again, even showed them pictures of our younger selves.
>>583984772>It's supposed to focus on everyone's first memories with Sonic, hence why you see Amy tied up in Stardust Speedway.Why the heck is Rouge there? She never had any meaningful interactions with Sonic in Adventure 2 or Heroes.
>>583985079Sonic is a franchise that wants to aim for kids, but will always have adults outway their kid audience.
You really couldn't play a more appropriate song for this event than Mr. Brightside.
Wheeeere is Zooeyanooon...
>>583985206man i remember screaming for knight of the wind
>>583985152I didn't see him. Either he was hanging out back stage because he's autistic or he's in nippon
>>583985236Government-mandated Shadow importance
>fuck it uplmao
>>583985249Here y'go
>>583984945>>583985103My mistake, then. It's hard to find all the info that dropped when it was announced but I could have sworn I remember reading that it would be episodic like... well, all of the other animations.
>>583985249If you'll be my Tails, I'll be your Zooey (I'm a 6'3" 250lb dude btw)
>>583985238Kids are their target audience but it's smart for them to appeal to as many people as possible to make more money.Over 50% of Toys R Us customers are adults. Adults have more money to spend. Maybe Sega should be smart about this opportunity.
We really went for round two on the dick sucking songs, huh?
>>583943518Requests doneThanks for the requests. Sorry this one took a while, I took a nap earlier. Hope everyone has a good weekendhttps://youtu.be/aIHSIxFurfg
>>583985206I was also at the 25th event. I didn't even watch the stream for this one. I'm not interested in e-celeb shit.
>>583985347Kishi does give autistic. His mannerisms and Twitter likes (not just the porn) especially.
>>583985549> Event is filled with groomers> More than one song about sucking dick> Pedo-infested Discord had to be shut down within a day in the same weekWhat did SEGA mean by this
>>583984936SecondLife
>>583985602I am tired of hellokitty
>>583985602That's hilarious anon, thanks for the deliveries.
Leave the franchise to me
>>583982835>Why do i get the sense you dont even know where the line comes fromProbably because you don't like that I have a problem with how this series handles the character of its namesake in recent times.He says it around when Perfect Chaos blasts Eggman away in SA1, before he tells Tikal that sealing away Chaos won't fix anything, he is pissed because Chaos just flooded a city full of people because he's still angry about what happened to a few Chao thousands of years ago and Tikal just wants to lock him back up instead of actually solving the problem.>just remembering it from Nazo?Uncalled for, if I didn't care about this series I wouldn't critique every little thing about it, it wouldn't upset me if Sonic had a bad game, I wouldn't be complaining about the narrative of Hello Kitty for grown men.>I dont see the visionWhenever a character cracks a joke or generally makes light of something they're adding levity to the situation, which works in some circumstances, but definitely not others.For the most part, Classic Sonic doesn't joke in the games because he isn't voiced in the games beyond "I'm outta here!", so he has to let his actions do the talking. His most iconic idle animation is him visibly getting annoyed at the player for wasting his time.If you can't see how Classic acts edgier than Modern, that on you, actually.
>strong start>dipped a little going into the rap but it's alright>instantly lost all momentum by playing justin fucking bieber
One of my friends just messaged me saying that Iizuka and the rest of the ST staff that went there are drunk off their asses, like to the point where one of them can't even stand.There's no announcement. This is it. This is the whole show. I can't fucking believe they did it. They somehow made a worse event than the 25th. I'm not even disappointed anymore. Just in awe at the incompetence.
>>583985685>not just the pornWhat else?
>>583985375That doesn't really thread the needle>>583985583Oh fuck, that's cuteThough the ponytail makes her look like a mini Whisper
Justin Bieber in MY Sonic?
>justin blehbarisn't that gay?>37yo unc laughterand i thought that twerp supports israel, why would sonic give money to oppressors?
>>583985692I swear it's like someone at SoA hates what everyone else is doing and is intentionally trying to sabotage them so badly that SoJ forcefully takes Sonic back. Except it isn't working.
Sex sex Sexual sexy sex fucking horny intercourse
>>583985795Tbh if I was forced to show up at an event like this due to job obligations, I would have been shitfaced before the event even started. So I guess I'll give credit where it's due on that.
>Justin Bieber>Lil WayneSonic the Hedgehog?
>>583985249Oh, if you're asking about the story, I know it's mainly updated on weekends but 9/11 weekend is bad timing for me, plus last time it ended on a tie so I may have to flip a coin..
how long until he puts some bullshit on mix like this song for examplehttps://youtu.be/aPxVSCfoYnU
>>583985958ideal Sonic Adventure 3 musicians
<3
>>583985925Webber said by the time he got back to sega all of this was set in stone. They probably had some businessman set all this up.
>>583985939That's not Sally's husband.
>>583985958you wanted sonic music at the sonic event? sorry, you get generic slop dj mix. stop bitching before we get thundercat back on stage
I haven't been watching it. Has there been ANY announcements?
>>583985903Tails! :D
>Trixiefags
>>583986091we got a release date for that giggex animation
>>583986091Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Release date for the metal sonic animation
>>583986081>Sally's husband >It's not the black, red-stripped hedgehog beside her.You hate Archie.
Is there an event happening that I'm not aware >>583986095He's the best!
>>583986138Timmie is like the wind
The bitch crying groomer is probably getting touched right now loool
>>583986236>Is there an event happening that I'm not awareThey're doing the "grand finale" right now. You're not missing anything
>>583986081Ship fighting is for besties. You can do it if you want.
SonurgeShadally
well this is a nice palate cleanser but likewould it have killed him to put some sonic music on this setlist
>>583986327What do you mean
Pulling the plug on this franchise would just be a mercy kill at this point.
>>583986270Timmy embodies the wind better than Sonic. He's a selfish guy who does whatever he wants and saves the day because he feels like it. Sonic is too much of a goodie two shoes faggot who is always preaching about justice and team work. Look at that faggot in IDW. Timmy would never.
>>583986438>complain about a lack of sonic music>immediately starts playing "i don't care"aight bitch, damn
>>583986174I just realized, but Starline then Blackwood? There's a writer with a hypnosis fetish or what?
>>583986441Random musicians playing music. Sonictubers claimed there would be some big game reveal but as everyone predicted there isn't.They uploaded this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJG3HkcC64w but I don't think it was even shown at the event, though I'm not really following so maybe I just missed itIf you want the event, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf_vx0rryIY
>>583986471This. Just reinforced how much I hate the direction of this franchise
the N WORD ON MY SONIC LIVESTREAM!?!?!??
>>583986620Lol why are they playing explicit music in an event about a "family friendly" franchise
>AC/DC
i don't mind the pop music, but at least make good choices in your mix and not put bullshit like we are young, mr brightside, or i write sins (not tragedies) and put them after well known club hits like we fell in love.
>>583986471For the first time Sega had the right idea, but Iizuka knows he has no career outside of Sonic, so he desperately wants to keep the franchise alive until he officially retires even though the brand is being ran into the ground harder than its ever been in history.
>ac/dc
You guys are going to look like fools when THE GODAN FLYNN comes out on stage and whips his fucking 14-inch cock out and starts pissing on everyone while the Frontiers 2 trailer plays in the background.
these sonic sounds are the closest this motherfucker has been to sonic music
By the way, did IDW #91 storytime happen yet, or was that anon stringing /Sthg/ along? Wish I knew it was releasing at New York Comic Con earlier because then I might've made plans to stop by during my trip before tickets sold out.
Do you miss Arin and Dan?
>>583986724Nuh uh Tailsfriend, this event is for ADULTS ONLY, MUST BE +18They also had a song about sucking dick earlierBut also, it's not unprecedented anyway >>583977094 >>583977182
AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAGHGGGGGHHHHHHH
>>583986068>They probably had some businessman set all this up.What's the name of their faggot president who thinks Amy is a damsel in distress? Betting it's him. He seems out of touch enough.
Embarrassing
>>583986870Dan yes, Arin not really
After long deliberation i have come to the conclusion that we are living in a layer of hell
oh shit, kid cudi is in the mixmaybe now this will be a good seguehttps://youtu.be/efiLdiBk1f8
>>583986596You wouldn't be the first to notice thisThere was a collage someone made, but I can't find it
>>583986985Cudi would’ve been a good choice for a set, Thundercat is cool but Cudi probably would’ve been down too
>randomly playing sonic sfx like a 12 year old finding a soundboardit's like he remembered he's at a sonic event and not a generic club
>>583986870Not at all.
>>583986930YeahIt's even worse that SEGA hired people to #knowingsmile this on Twitter
>>583986875God damnit dude this is extremely cringe. It's one of these things that can make anyone above the age of 12 self conscious about still being a Sonic fan. I really don't like when kid brands start genuinely acknowledging adult fans like this
This franchise spends more time having concerts and Yourubers being hype men than actually making Sonic products.
>>583987001OH, I also forgot Eggman implanting a torture device on... the thug guy's scalp, too.And the jellyfished-faced guy who can delete memories with his gauntlet (but he might be Starline).I get that Eggman and Sonic are meant to be the main characters and thus nobody can overpower them directly, but still, it feels a bit cheap to rely on teleporters or mindwashing.
Oh well whatever
YOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
YOOOOOOOOOU
Anything written after SA1 is OOC
>>583987097Someone said it might just be so it's less work if they don't have to deal with kids running around or something. I don't think acknowledging adult fans is necessarily bad, but this isn't the way to go about it. It's just lame and boring.
Explain the trixiefag thing
>>583987001horse show also has a lot of thisthis is generally a children's franchise thing because it's a family-friendly evil plan
>>583986870NeitherAlso unban Oney
There are middle-aged balding Sonic fans in the crowd singing along to Soulja Boy.
uh oh
>>583987368Do you think there'll be an announcement at the end?
>>583987475As a middle-aged balding man, who else do you expect to sing along to Soulja Boy?
uhhhh
So, is there any reason why the Japanese trailer isn't dubbed in Japanese ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJG3HkcC64w
>>583987485Must be Hoshino.
>>583987475I would be too
>the fucking youtube stream got nuked for "policy violations"FUCKING LMAO?
>>583987292<3>>583987493SEGA got a bunch of people in Europe and America to visit their HQ or something and showed them unrevealed games and stuff last week apparently. They all went to Twitter saying to watch the stream because it would get revealed there>Do you think there'll be an announcement at the end?No. I'll happily be surprised, but no.
>>583986875>They also had a song about sucking dick earlierFitting since the Sonic fandom is loaded with literal faggots and whores now.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOFITTING ENDING
As soon as you guys started going "Yoooooooooou" I heard the soulja boy song in my head and I'm not even watching the stream
>>583987572How do you get copyrighted for a club livestream
YouTube being clown world
>>583987572LOL
kek based
>>583987485Shouldn't they be making a Sonic game?>>583987572>>583987598First the discord and now this lmao.
>>583987572HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>IDW vulnerability crap bleeding into the gamesThanks Archiefags for getting this fucking writer
Well the live ended completely now
Good. Serves this shit blue rat ass company right. I don’t have to have my eyes raped any longer lmao.
>>583987572What the FUCK. Sonic Mania 2 is going to have a field day with that.
>>583987650>How do you get copyrighted for a club livestreamThe youtube bot is fucking brokensometimes it strike videos randomly without any reason.
It's on twitch
This franchise is an even bigger shitshow. Once one of the movies flop Sonic is motherfucking cooked and I'll welcome it.
>>583987572Wait, really? I don't see it live anymore, but it went over 12 hours so the archive stopped already.
>>583946045Kuromi was created for Onegai My Melody by the anime studio commission to make it, before then there weren’t all that much characters/setting related to My Melody (I think the blue mouse, Flat, was the only character but I don’t remember though) so the anime studio created a bunch of them including Kuromi, Baku and his family, the King and Queen, etc.
Isn’t the copyright stuff handled by Neal’s jeet ai bots? I’ve seen so many streams and videos falsely claimed because of that shit kek.
The absolute state of Sonic the Hedgehog. SEGA's lucky they still have merch sales, Puyo Puyo, RGG Studios, and Atlus.
this fucking franchise man
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA Sonic isn't doing well is he
>>583987485Unironicly Based
>>583987609Tails hacked the stream to save this franchise's reputation
>>583987485It was hoshino. He was knocking them back before i left. Izuka downing modelos too.
anons, imagine if this song was on the mix https://youtu.be/Ti1bFMBd6V4
>>583987928LMAO
>>583986471The only shit I'm keeping in touch for are the games and even then I'm very cautious, I will never preorder a Sonic game after Forces duped me.I never read Archie, IDW met the bare minimum before the Metal Virus saga and after that the only shit I liked was issue 63 and the initial Sonic vs Surge shit, the latter of which for unintended reasons, and even 63 was immediately followed up with 64. I had significantly more fun reading all of STC and it ended before I was born and all the good it did me was make me realize no one who complains about STC Sonic being a prick has actually read the comic.I have no interest in seeing Sonic 4 unless Metal Sonic paints the walls with the protags, though I will say I did love Sonic 3, I just have no desire to see another movie after it.I have no faith in a Sonic cartoon that tries to take itself seriously when the only good ones so far are AOSTH and Boom.
>>583987920Thank you Tails!!!
>>583987572Twitch still up, fuck YouTube
Is this stream... the end of Sonic?
This franchise will die in your lifetime
>>583987983<3
They hitting the dougie.
the sonic and tails mascots just came out to hit the dougie
>>583988014>fuck YouTubeI wish we could, they're ridiculous. I tried to look for that video of Eggman calling Sonic a fuckboy, and Youtube blocked my search because "huuuuh you might be a child and that kind of language is not very good so..."
>>583988018sonic is not ending until the movies do
If I was Yuji Naka, I would rip off Iizuka's head and turn myself in to the police after seeing him reduce the franchise to this clown show.
Tails, you're supposed be sleeping boy
you knowit probably wouldn't have been too bad if this guy or thundercat like... played sonic music instead of whatever the fuck thundercat did and a generic-ass pop set with sonic sfx sprinkled in
eat your fucking slop
unironically naka would probably cause workplace incidents over this shit if he was still in charge
Goooo Tails :D
Why the fuck is Shadow not dancing?
It was cringe but it's becoming unironically funny
DAME MAS GASOLINA
>>583988209based chadow
>>583988105FRICK that we party
oh my god this is like the fucking steve aoki concert except people actually paid to be here
>>583988083Fucking Youtube now asks you to sign in to confirm your age if it doesn't like your search. Fucking soulless cocksucking faggots.
Go to sleep nigga
>>583988257Link?
Go foxboy go!!!
>>583988292Yup. And EU wants to make that mandatory to play online. In the name of kid protection, of course.
i think this is it, we are NOT getting one more announcement
A ELLA LE GUSTA LA GASOLINA
are you not entertained
I would've been okay with Sonic dying after Forces. Eggmsn finally conquered the world and Sonic and your OC stopped him. There is nothing else to go from there.
>>583988042At least you got here, makes this stream existing less painful>>583988257I said that too, the moment it was announced months ago lol>>583988345https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1220326531
I feel embarrased of being a Sonic fan
Who gave Tails the pop again
Why are you guys pretending the YouTube strike means anything? Neal has bots that handle these copyright blocks, and they falsely strike videos all the time. That's what happens when all your updates to the site are vibecoded. Anyways, fuck this shit where's the game announcement?
>>583988442Same.
>>583988440Will have to watch later, qrd?
>>583988425Shadow isn't >>583988440It's fine!
Krack is correct about westerners. Goddamn.
>>583988560Why didn't you listen /sthg/
>>583988560If you phrase it like this, people are going to assume you're Krack talking about herself and blame Krack.
>>583988560Stop talking about yourself in the third person.
Welp.
That was a RIOT
>>583988614>>583988632Lol
>>583988528It's just a pre-recorded video of Steve Aoki playing random music surrounded by recycled Sonic Generations assets>>583988542I just meant I'm happy you're here :)
>>583988442This is actually the first time I feel like this despite all the past crap Sonic has been through. Likely because it feels so desperate like the franchise is on its last legs but pretending everything is okay and better than ever.
>>583988480Why is YouTube ran by Indians?
>the reveal was silvaze on pico parkLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
...and no announcements! Fooled again>>583988689I'm happy you're here too
>>583988697Cheap labour, and any complain can be ignored with:* you're just racist* think of the kids
Dead franchise.
>>583988690It was doing great from 2022 to 2024...>>583988731>...and no announcements!I knew itPeople are going to be mad at those YouTubers
Fucccck that was so good lads.We need another Club Chaos next year
It's so weird hearing adult oriented songs at an official Sonic event on an official Sonic live stream
>>583988801Those Youtubers are literally paid shills by SoA. They'll hype up a Sonic condom as if it's a good announcement.
>>583988734Can someone make a webm edit of that?Fuck, was the stream even saved?
So they said around 2016 Sonic was just about dead and yet this party was at a similar level of quality to the 25th anniversary stream. On top of Iizuka begging for reviews and all of the crossoverslop I'm kind of worried. Weren't they supposed to be doing better or having a bigger budget?
>>583988879Pokémon did the same thing a few years ago.
Foxboy got some movesShadow's a party pooper
>>58398892112 hours of the YouTube stream are still there, but it caps out the recording after that. The Twitch VOD should still be there for however long they keep it now.
>>583988921>Fuck, was the stream even saved?It's archived on Twitch; just check the VOD.
>>583988952Dow is cutest boy
>>583985965Is 9/11..important to you? =(>>583986850Looks like they did not. I think it was announced really late, maybe after tickets sold out
It was a great night of announcements for people who are fans of everything except Sonic because it was all crossover bullshit
I used to admire this franchise a long fucking time ago for doing its own thing and not caring what people thought.But for the longest time, it has been pathetically begging for validation and embarrassing itself for approval.
>>583988879an adult only event too, you've missed that part>>583988943But this one wasn't LOL
>>583988952Didn't see themThat must have been the first Sonic related thing on screen in hours>>583989004Weird way to spell Tails
>>583986850It might be a bit before there's a storytime. You're talking about someone having to scan their physical copy instead of just having a digital copy to upload like usual.
>>583988923They straight up confess they're hard-carried by the movies. Once that finally dries up the guillotine is being lowered down on Sonic again.
...can someone storytime 91 and end our mysery?
I really wish Sega would do more Anniversary Symphony events instead of this shitty event.
I was stuck at work all day. What got announced? I already know about the crosswords year 2 hello kitty stuff btw.
I’m actually so pissed I wasted time on that livestream but Sonic fans, myself included, truly deserve this humiliation ritual dogshit for supporting this trash company. Fuck Sega and fuck every single disgusting rancid putrid influencer for hyping this shitshow up.
>>583989052This is what happens when the "bad boy" becomes the norm, he either becomes badder and badder, or is left behind.Sonic used to be cool, compared to Mario who was a good boy, but then all kind of "cool kids" hit the stage. How is Sonic meant to compare to... I dunno, Dante? The faggot sissy from that Demon Might Whine serie? Dude kills demons for a living and has a whole combo system, meanwhile Sonic is "just" a hedgehog that goes fast in a genre of game that are usually slow.
>>583989154Right at the end Sonic, Tails and Shadow costumes entered the stage
>>583989212This is why tailsfags are the worst
>>583989241>he thinks this was about announcing Sonic content>>583989318I like those costumes
>>583988730>>583928198 starting to look likelier and likelier..!
Sonic Team always kept asking for a bigger budget. Now that they've finally got it they have no fucking clue of what to do to make a Sonic game that justifies it.
All I have left now is Sonurge.
>>583989241Metal sonic in fortniteCloud and sephiroth in cross worldsDevs getting drunk as fuckThe end
>>583989325If you hate Tails, you hate Sonic and should leave.
>>583989154Dow is cutest sorry. You can have second place.
>>583989325Tailsfags are the worst because of a trans falseflag troll spammer they all hate?
Modernbros I don't wanna sound mean but your branch of the franchise has been shamelessly trend chasing since forever >>583989337God Tails is byootiful...
>>583989357If they spend it like they did with Unleashed, they deserve to lose it.How did Sonic Team, with a bigger budget and stronger hardware, make a worse game than Dimps did with less money for a game that was supposed to run on the PlayStation 2?
>>583989415Falseflag Tailsfag, get out of here, you're a false lover of Tails.
do you feel it in the air /sthg/? thats depression
>>583989458The tranny tails spammer is the fly that dogshit tailsposts tend to attract yes.
>>583989156They could've at least taken quick pics of the inside to verify their claims, but the pics I saw of the cover didn't even appear opened.
>>583989447Tails is number 1 to me ^-^Shadow can be number 1 to you!>>583989465Sonic was always "trend chasing" lolSonic is a mascot platformer because that's what was cool at the time. Also the sources of inspiration like Star Wars or MJ
Tailsfags ruined sthg
>>583989646Yes, those posts you left to frame Tailsfags are suppose to make us think this. We know.
How come tailsfags and kitfags and barryfags get to spam art of their favorite character but I don't
they really didn't need to stream thatcould've just uploaded the memories and beyond, pico park and fortnite clips seperately
That youtube fuckboy Jeb was right about everything and that's why he was longhouse'd by Twitter
>>583989806Go nuts, man.
>barryfags/sthg/ likes FFXV?
>>583989806You can post whatever you want as far as I'm concerned
>>583989806How come you don't just DOIT
>>583989892No, Resident Evil.
>>583989806If your fave is a cutie patootie then go nuts
I want to SPANK Maria until she loves it!
What if Sage the Sloth was OOC?
Tails!!!!!
I watched this for nothing only to like three things: >>583989816
>>583990060............you know i have spacecancer or something rite
>>583990083...is going to sleep with me. Goodnight!
Hi, let me guess, nothing? Thought so.>>583989806There's only one of me that regularly does it, least nowadays it seems. Do whatever you want man.
>>583990264Goodnight! <3>>583990285>Hi, let me guess, nothing? Thought so.Of course
>>583990257Is that meant to allow all kind of misbehaviours?
>he does not have a lifesize tailsdoll
>>583990340^-^
*headpats your OC*
Look BUDDY if you FUCKING spank Maria I'll FUCKING SPANK YOU
>>583990404I wish>>583990407:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bw-QO9W0TkWelp, good night. Don't kill yourselves over this.
>>583988095Naka is probably doing the same shit at 8-4 at the moment >b-but his goood behavior probation They don't give a shit at 8-4, it's a secret place in the first place
>>583990538Goodnight to you too>Don't kill yourselves over this.Glad I didn't believe the knowingsmilers
>>583990404I have one but the Tails droop and I have to hold it up or it looks like he has two penises.
I don't think I like Sonic anymore.
>>583990264>>583990538pleasant dreams
It’s simple we uh kill the hedgehog
Blowjobs and cum are above board for Sonic media now.
>>583990759ok mephiles.
>Tell me what I gotta do to get my dick suckedHaha I know what to do now.
https://x.com/Cybrid101/status/2108785823386607866SEGA told YouTubers to advertise the event tricking them into thinking there would be major news
>>583990787i want to fill sonic to the brim
You all drunkGo to bed
Iizuka is just signing off on anything these days.
https://files.catbox.moe/zi2ig4.png
>the influencers are knowingsmiling wrong
>>583991235This but Arenafag
>>583990963AHAHAHAHAHHAA
I'm glad I tuned out after they showcased the pile of diabetic Rouge cosplayers. Sounds like the rest of the event was ass
Name appropriate times for Shadow to smile
>>583991129/sthg/ right now
>>583991235This but Sonurgeslut
>>583991391For Maria
>>583991391He’s about to kill himself
>>583990963It always goes like this:>do some dumb shit>blame SEGA for the dumb shit you did
>>583991391wen he see his best bud metal sonic in sonic rivals 2! =D
>>583991029I just woke up
HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE
>>583991391forceskino
>>583991578influencers suck and smell irl
I literally told you not to do any of that fuckink shit
This is retarded. It's been 15 years and Sonic Generations is still tainting this series.
>naka hates hello kitty!!https://x.com/nakayuji/status/1393040199031005190
>>583991413Never happened. He was all grumpy or resting bitch face always to Maria.
I just want sonic x and no social media
>>583992029He smiles for her in the manga and in shadow gens and the movie....?
>>583992027This had me laughing like a cartoon dog when the link opened
>>583967471She's actually at her best, perfect gag character that also motivates and leads her friends to go on an adventure
He lived, bitch.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8q11q0T9K7ky-bmIX1yqt1ywF2KEm3d5ndUNA52kwQ
I want real emotion and angst and loud angsr to come back. Not all this hip-hop country BS.
>>583991235This but namefaghaters
>>583992027lol
>>583991301Yay more dead /co/fags
>>583986081au that was retconned and erased >>583985939recently approved to be the true ending by big ken
>>583986081>kids are just literal miniaturized versions complete with ARchie Sally's ugly manbrows. Pathetic.
Tails!
I just noticed Shadow's head moves into position the instant before the camera cuts when it's supposed to be in sync.
>>583993030Cutest xur
Liberty
Chris > Tom
>>583992653Oh god you’re here too? Ive had enough of you on /co/
>>583993626Falseflagging trannyposting aside, those shoes actually look good and I’d like to see a red pair on normal Tails. Like if Shitver’s shoes weren’t tacky or had faggy heels
Kishimoto is your only hope
Hope is a luxury we don't have
>>583993938She's got hella style
>>583994312I'm an optimist, but I'm also a realist. Naka is gone, Anon. And Iizuka is... Iizuka has just lost it. If we're going to win we have to do it without them.
In all seriousness I don’t have a problem with the direction the franchise has been taking aside from all the egregious crossover “brand publicity” shit. In just the past few years alone we’ve gotten>all the Crossworlds DLC shit>the dumbass multimedia merchandising DC Comics crossover shit I’m sick and tired of being pushed>the Pac-Man World 2 thing with reused Generations assets>Sonic at Top Golf and Round One like anyone cares>Sonic x NASA, like really who gives a shit>that fucking ridiculous thing where they “made Sonic’s DNA real”>Mclaren Racing shit>Fortnite bullshit>all that fashion crap that costs hundreds of dollars that all looks ugly as shitLike I wish the actual Sonic games could get a fraction of the attention that whoring the character has gotten
>>583995454They're riding the coattails of the movies and trying to make Sonic look like a powerful brand. We even hear delusional shit like surpassing Mario and becoming the next Mickey Mouse. None of that shit is happening.
>>583994094... on further shitty games with overly linear level designs and even more automation along janky boostslop, in the most Unreal Engine asset flip looking """aesthetics""" possible.
>>583995454>all the Crossworlds with reused Generations assets>the dumbass multimedia merchandising with reused Generations assets>the Pac-Man World 2 with reused Generations assets>Sonic at Top Golf and Round One with reused Generations assets>all that fashion crap with reused Generations assets>the pinball machine with reused Generations assets>Frontiers cyberspace with reused Generations assets>Superstars Classicslop with reused Generations assets>reused Generations music>reused Generations on the official accounts>Generatioons Classic and Modern split infiltrating Sonic Channel>a literal Generations rereleaseGenerations is the worst thing that's ever happened to the series.
>>583979028NTA but I think the distinction anon was trying to bring was that Archie was going for soap opera/drama often, and same applied to IDW. Sonic is a series where concepts like that have to be explore with a different mindset, SA2/06 still had characters remain themselves and the events served to show what they would do even in grim situations. Just like some of the examples you've mentioned, Madoka might as well be advertised by the bait and switch factor but it does this to still focus on the characters and themes of hope/love for others, and Higurashi also isn't really about the grim/horror aspect itself. You're right that this isn't just a Japan/West thing, but the mindsets with which dark/goofy things are approached do differ to some degree, and for Sonic, a lot of Western takes on it differ greatly due to starting with a different base altogether (US 90s Sonic, the Sonic Bible, SatAM).
>>583995781They put all their iconic levels in Gens and ensured they'd never have to make original stages again.
>>583995902Generations has such a terrible line up of stages. 5 cities and 2 Green Hills. What a joke
Shadow the Hedgehog isn't half as self serious as Archie or Satam. The word you're looking for is melodrama. Frontiers does it though.
Sonic Generations was the game that got the most praise because it had Classic Sonic in it and Sega never got over the flattery.
>>583995986Lol, I only recently discovered one of the complaints for the game is too many city stages and I can't help but agree.
>>583996015>praise because it had Classic SonicPathetic
>I wake up>SEGA or Sonic Team does something to humiliate the franchise
https://files.catbox.moe/w2mv12.png
No no no no please don't come back. That other anon is just stupid don't pay attention to him.
Remember when Generations DS had Sonic fight the Biolizard?
>>583993876Slashy? no no... Krack? no no ... Duo? Who in God's name are you?
>>583964073Why is Sonic waving the Romanian flag? Is Sega putting Romania in charge of the Sonic IP from now on?
Maybe the reason why the devs were getting so drunk was because they wanted to make sure they'd forget the night.
I slept, did anyhting gt announced beyond sonic space and pico park
>>583997041Nothing worthwile
>>583997354what are all stuff annnounced besides music
>>583997447They showed more crossoverslop and another teaser preview trailer for the shitty Generations animation they've been failing to hype up for months. That's it.
>>583997513stood up for nothing
>Sonic Team calling anyone they can so they can fund another of totally working on the next gameThis is a racing not named Mario Kart. There’s no way they project making enough from current players to keep the light on. I can’t see anything enticing new buyers either. Are they desperate?
I thought the stream was funny
>sthg swallowed 3 threads overnight just to doompostImpressive.So how did it end? Are you winning son?
If you don't get this reference you're lame and gay.
>Pacman, Megaman, Godzilla, and now Final Fantasy are getting called into Sonic Crossworlds.>Meanwhile Crash sits at home and cries.Imagine if Nitro Fueled had lasted longer than a year...And didn't tank its reputation by adding microtransactions.
Surely they must be cooking something up. Like they must have SOMETHING they can show or tell. Don't tell me these guys did nothing but sit on their ass the past 5 years.
>>583998110>Don't tell me these guys did nothing but sit on their ass the past 5 yearsWhy working? Movies and series bank more money than games, why would you (as a corporate business) waste money on "passion" games with diminishing returns? Would you really bank 300M and throw them inside an asset flipped toy for a messy mainline game?
>>583997723I told anons it was just Crossworlds but people decided to trust stupid YouTubers hunting at something wink wink. Idiots, this is what you deserve
Im starting to think sonic isn't very good
>>583998491You're duller than a broken sandwich.
Sonic X Fortnite second wave confirmedMetal Sonic is coming to Fortnite plus two other not yet revealed skinsApparently Sonic sold real good in Fortnite to guarantee a second wave
>>583998823>>583997723>dumb fun meme concert that didn't even announce anything>more fortnite garbage>Crossworlds is still boring garbage>not even anything on the movieFRANCHISE IS DEAD ANYWAY ERNIE FUCK IT
>>583994734Xouge!
>>583995986That's actually fault of the fans, because each of those stages were the winners of a poll for "which was your favorite level from each game, which actually explains a lot.Green Hill, Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary are obvious, maybe Sky Sanctuary beating Angel Island is iffy, but the Super Mecha fight happens there so I get it, it only starts to really get confusing with Speed Highway beating out Emerald Coast, City Escape makes sense even if Radical Highway is cooler and Seaside Hill is how every team starts Heroes, Crisis City is easily the most memorable location in 06, but Rooftop Run is again odd and while I personally do not get the appeal of Planet Wisp fans never stop jerking it off so it gets in before any of the other much more interesting locations in Colors.
>>583999358Yes, the "fans" were responsible for shitting on the series for a whole decade, bullying anyone who liked it, forcing Sonic Team to make the Classic/Modern split, removing stories, removing the Adventure gameplay, removing the characters, and recycling the same few things over and over. We know.
>>583999358>Radical Highway is coolerNo
Did we got new games news yet or we still stuck with comics, Fortnite and Fortnite on wheels?
https://x.com/S0LUR/status/2108781309724398017P-06fags are retarded and don't know what the original game is like, or even the stage layouts. They'll look at the original game unchanged and praise how good it looks because they think it's P-06. They never took an honest look at the original.
Maddie and Rachel are sisters, but have different skin tones and accents. How is this possible? The third movie even draws attention to the fact that Maddie has to force an accent to sound like Rachel
>>583999752We're still stuck.
IDW sonic is going to safe this franchise.
>>583999848It certainly will Vault things.
Amy in fortnite
Do you remember all those people who were like:>No, the retarded laser fart dance of the movies is just for making money for the games! We just need a good revenue bro! Then we can make games dude every franchise needs money first dude!Well turns out making money is just about making money, and not about making good products and art.
23 weeks until Amyfags either collectively orgasm or burn down the franchise in rage
>>584000003The movies technically cause more people to buy Sonic games, but the money spent on them doesn't actually go to the games. We are basically Paramounts bitch. Those people saying Movie Sonic would develop into windnic were coping too. Why would they do that if they have no reason to change anything?
Vector in fortnite, aside metal sonic I dosnt see who else could make it in there, maybe Espio and Charmy as a pet like Tails
>>583999190It's just Metal Sonic and Amy to shill the movies
>>584000089>The movies technically cause more people to buy Sonic gamesA little correction, people who consume the movies will consume the rest of the franchise and not just games, including merch. You can bait them with ugly plastic models and quick time events for so long until you need to change the formula.For the rest, a product more successful than your older one will shift the focus.
Reminder that Frontiers was only cyber themed to justify the blue lightning eyes from the moviesReminder that Shadow Generations only exists to marker the third movieReminder that the next Sonic game will have its story determined by the movie it releases nearest to
>>584000297This franchise is limping
>>584000350It's breathing, but through mouth to mouth from a rapist
They should just use ai to make sonic games
>>584000441hot
>>584000297>Reminder that the next Sonic game will have its story determined by the movie it releases nearest toThat's a good thing. If the movies are getting darker, the games should too
>>584000509Are you insane
>>584000509>movies are getting darker>soon you'll find yourself in the post-apocalypse and it's sonic satam all over againMy body is ready for moviefags to become satamfags 2.0
doesn't matter if the movie is shit, good, cringe concert, based concert, I will never stop loving sonic
So Sega just doesn't care if an official Sonic live stream is talking about sucking dicks and getting bitches Good. I never want to hear shit from the weird pearl clutching fans again.
>>584000509>The franchise is totally getting darker i swear!>meanwhile Sega:https://youtu.be/4AUAKKqKpdM?feature=shared
>>584000619Fucking crazy windfaggot. Everything is being destroyed. You need to stop loving Sonic NOW
>>584000659This is jpkino and better than westie darkslop
moviefags becoming adults and invading other parts of the franchise will kill your enjoyment of it if you haven't ready given up by then
>>584000634They only care that nobody says anything "right wing".
>>584000659That's a new brand. Notice how Sonic have a new design to attract kids and to make sure that show is not what you are looking for. The new Neftlix show will do the same.
>>584000509>That's a good thing. If the movies are getting darker, the games should tooThey aren't. The first movie is darker than the second and third. Notice all the guns and alcohol are gone in the third.
If the Genesis Sonic games have already been decompiled for over a decade, why has nobody ported them to PC?
>>584000947Is ABT good for anything outside drawing goonslop?
>>584000509>More human mentee characters because the movies did it>more Shadow shilling>More GUN everywhere>Electricity replaces wind>Rouge vaulted
>>584000947Only Sonic 3K has been truly decompiledSonic 1, 2 and CD decomps use a custom engine from the original genesis one
>>584001191He drew the drogune comic that Ian was shilling soo much, look at it and you tell me
>>584001405Ok it's animu mango simple features. Still what the fuck are those things?
More girls should chase after a guy they like, like Amy. She's based....
>>584000604Unlike Satamfags, Moviefags knows that the movies are it's own thing from the gamesSatamfags was forcefeed lies by SoA to believe that Satam was actually mainline
Evens I visit the whiteboardOdds I sleep and play video games the whole weekend instead (not Sonic games)
Nobody cares
>>584001592Don't worry, they have time to develope into pushing their own bullshit as canon like a bunch of zealots.
>>583994734.... is Shadow just posing?
good morning
>>584001692I look forward to your doodle
>>584001774Yes, he is being badass with his back to an explosion
>>584001779Please be my mommy today!
>>584001774He shouldn’t be there. Rouge shouldn’t either, those two have no reason to team up with the other four. Especially against Metal Sonic of all things.
>>584001376Well "Disassembled" is the correct word.https://github.com/sonicretro/s1disasmhttps://github.com/sonicretro/s2disasmhttps://github.com/sonicretro/skdisasmhttps://github.com/sonicretro/scddisasmNobody has ported the Assembly to PC...Is that even possible?
Didn't SatAM invent the blue boosting effect?
>>584002042More it’s been the standard design practice for speedsters. I always found it weird that Shadow’s speed color is yellow-orange.
After Memories and BoC you can't tell me there won't be teasing of Sonamy in Sonic 4 too.
>>584000942Synergy goes both ways. Iizuka saw the potential of the movies and decided to make them more on brand.
>>583964073>>584002234Bestie lost hard.
>>584002039I suppose it is, just laborious. What processor did mega drive use? Some Motorola maybe? It just needs to translate into logically equivalent instructions, but for graphics and sound you'd have to make an API wrapper for the native instructions, since modern windows does not give access to low level graphics instructions.
>>584001692See you in the whiteboard anon, don't disappoint me
>>584002215>speedsterStopped reading there. Stop engaging with capeshit. Not every character that can run fast is the flash.
>>583994734>her blush Cute
>>584002321Basically, you're saying you can only use a emulator as the alternative is just recoding from scratch in Windows. An emulator is just a giant wrapper/translator.
>>584002293Yeah, the westie that spammed this all last year lost pretty hard this year after BoC came out, I agree.
>>584002718BoC is fanfiction.Bestie still lost. Sonic will ALWAYS see her as a friend.
>>584002570Not at all. The Zelda and Mario recomps have the same issue I'm pretty sure. Most of the code could be auto translated, if you have the proper tool. Only Xbox recomps should be more straight forward since the code would already be DirectX, though the Unleashed recomp choose to use Vulkan?
So is there any other Sonic related event to look forward to or is this really all we're gonna gett until the Game Awards? The new animation looks nice but it's only 10 minutes long and we've already seen about a third of it from the two teasers they gave us. Don't really care of Pico Park and the Crossworlds DLC isn't really scratching that Sonic itch.
>>584002396NTA but the Road Runner predates that capeshit. He's also blue.
>>584002351will you draw something?
>>584002857But he doesn't have a blue aura like boosting. He just leaves a smoke trail.
>>584002898What is a "smear frame".
>>584001545idk but I don't mind them, they seem to have bouquets for hair
>>584002805>The Zelda and Mario recompsSomeone recompiled the old NES games? sauce.
>>584002951A frame where a character is stretched or doubled to make them look faster in motion and avoid jerky animation. Not the same as a bubble of blue energy like Sonic SatAM.Incidentally Adventure has both stretching and doubling effects for its animations, but only in the JP release for some reason.
>>583994734>>583981817Sonamy is unstoppable
>>584003037No point since NES emulation is perfect. I mean the N64 ones.
>>584002892Yes, I promised
>>584003164I look forward to it!
TRIPLETS
>>584003098>No pointWhile I agree, that doesn't answer the initial question of porting Assembly to Windows. The N64 already had a cheat in that ROMs could be cleanly decompiled and recompiled. I don't think Genesis assembly is that versatile.
I have no faith in the next game given how Sonic Team let Ian lobotomize Amy in Frontiers and Crossworlds. Bunch of apathetic, neglectful punks who don’t listen to their own fans
>>584002396>commonly understood term>hurrr capeshitOkay.
>>584003684Sega already do listen to fans way too much, it's how they responds to criticism that's the problem
WHY CONTAIN IT?
I asked an AI about the feasibility of porting a game written in Turbo Pascal from MS-Dos to Windows. It basically said that most of the game would have to be re-written from scratch even with the Source Code.>Why Turbo Pascal makes a direct port impractical:>Turbo Pascal 7.0 (used by Arjan Brussee) compiles to 16-bit real-mode DOS executables that rely on direct hardware access — memory-mapped video, BIOS interrupts for sound, etc. There's no Turbo Pascal-to-Windows-10 path. You'd have to strip out every DOS-specific call and replace them with modern APIs (Win32, DirectX, SDL), which is effectively a rewrite, not a port. Even Free Pascal (the modern successor) wouldn't help because the logic is fine but the I/O layer is entirely DOS-bound.>If you did have the Turbo Pascal source, the realistic path would be:>Port the logic to Free Pascal or C++ (the game logic itself is a straightforward 2D platformer engine)>Replace all DOS hardware access with SDL2 or DirectX>Handle the PSM (Personal Sound Module) audio format — this is the trickiest part, as it's a proprietary MIDI-like formatSo yeah, it's starting to make so much sense to me why Christian Whitehead had to write a whole new engine to remake/remaster the Genesis Sonic games. It also explains why Emulation will always be the way to go.
>>584003849People hate how Ian writes Amy because he completely strips her of her personality and tries to turn her into generic, polite nice girl and group mom but he excuses it by blaming mandates that don’t exist because he’s a shameless liar who doesn’t want to own up to his mistakes and instead of stepping in to address the problem, they let him continue
>>584001376>>584002039It's not possible, not in the same way as the Retro Engine remakes or other modern games. You have to understand how these games are made. Modern games (think from Nintendo 64 onward, or GBA onward for handhelds) are written in languages like C, C++, or C#, which are high level abstractions made to be human readable. However, processors can't run these languages. They can only run the machine language designed specifically for them. These higher level languages are easier and less machine specific. After writing the game code in this language, developers use a tool called compiler to translate them into the machine language of each the targeted processors. Fans don't have access to the original higher level source code, but can decompile the game to obtain it, doing the compilation in reverse.The compilation isn't always efficient, especially in the past and on weaker hardware, so developers had to work with machine languages directly. That's a lie btw, they actually used assembly languages, which are easier to read for humans, but simply match readable text to raw machine code 1:1. Assembly was never made to be portable to other platforms in the first place, and can only be disassembled (reconstructing readable assembly from raw machine code) so you can't port it like you do with decomps. You can still translate the assembly to other assembly languages or higher level languages, but that's a different project and requires more work (maybe not so much anymore now that we have LLMs). I think SEGA actually did this for the 3DS SEGA AGES releases of Sonic 1 & 2, but I'm not sure
Pico
>>584004282 (Me)>different project*process
>>584004025Like I said, the N64 and Unleashed recomps already do this. It's not the same as a rewrite because you only have to port the API calls, you don't have to understand the entire code, just those parts. It still takes time.
>>584004025>i asked AIYou don't need to ask shit if you know that every hardware has its own language. It would be like asking a tranny to make children, doesn't have the stuff to execute.
>>584004282Assembly is made to be human readable also. It's not as obscure as people are told, just most programmers have little experience with it. It's basically just a language they haven't been taught.Assembly instructions are just an abstraction over a superscalar architecture that analyzes and recompiles the code these days anyway.
>>583982865Boomer trvkeThis is the core three whether J*pan likes it or not
>>584002752Don't care long as Amy gets to actually be in love with him again. I'm an Amy enjoyer first and foremost.
>>583967295 Thing is said hobbies most of the time end up more as wikipedia trivia since most of it isn't suitable to come up in game format, not saying the other characters are any better.
>>584004025If you have no domain knowledge you can't correct AI hallucinations and it becomes very difficult to get a useful answer.
>>584004123Well said and an issue that only exists with him and none other. I don't know what happened with Archie era Ian but he's no longer that and he's genuine poison to her character.
Hello Kitty franchise
>>584005193For boys?
>>584004830Never take your eye off the fact that Amy is only lobotomized in the English dialogue and not the Japanese one. That makes it worse. Ian even falsely claimed on his Twitter that he likes how she was written in SA1 and SA2. How do we know he’s lying? He has never ever written her like that in the games. I’m never going to accept what Ian does to her character. I will never come to terms with it because that’s exactly what Ian wants
>>583964073Amy is just as forced as Silver trying to be shoved next to Sonic and Shadow.
>>584006309There isn't really a consistent ''core'' or ''trio'' nowadays, it's mostly about what movies push at the time, it was sonic/shadow/knux at fortnite, now it's amy since m4 is near.
>>584005331AURA....
>>584006309It's only done out of spite some people have for Silver>"I FUCKING HATE SILVER SO MUCH so I gonna replace him with Amy even though she don't fit with Sonic and Shadow either"really pathetic
I feel like they've done this>fighting powered-up Metal Sonic in a closed locationGimmick like 3 times alreadyThere was that Archie comic with ancient gears, Mania shorts ended in such fight, the latest Classic IDW comic had the same schtickWhat the fuck happened with the Stardust Speedway run, defeat him by outrunning Metal, not by hand to hand combatHow is Sonic any unique
>>584006621>>584006470Silver will also get the time anyway, its just movie whore out franchise.
>>584006629>Gimmick like 3 times alreadyThat's what happens when you only use Eggman and Metal
>>584006629The only times Metal Sonic has been interesting in this franchise was Sonic Heroes with Neo Metal and Metal Madness/Overlord and Fleetway with the Brotherhood of Metallix. That's it. He's boring everywhere else and is only around because Hoshino designed him.
>>584006629>Stardust Speedway runto be fair that boss fight requires a very specific setup>Eggman chasing Sanic with an instakill laser>Sonic forced on one rail>Metal is racing him to shut his one escape route at the end it's also not as visually interesting to show a footrace you can't play, that's why when it happens in the comics it's usually to give room to banter
Can Amy and Metal Sonic even carry a movie?
>>584007051about as well as Eggman and Tails. I'm expecting diminishing returns from movie 4, the appeal of 3 was seeing a movie version of the most iconic story of the series. Not much else compares
>>584007051ya
>>584007165>I'm expecting diminishing returns from movie 4And we'd get a panic interview from Iizuka explaining how the franchise is on the rocks again and basically BEGGING people to buy the next game and give it good reviews on Metacritic alongside sales.
>>584007051They can, but they’re not really the characters that will get butts in seats. As much as I dislike the trio, only really Silver and a SSS would be the kind of follow-up to rival movie 3.
>>584006629Metal Sonic was utterly pathetic in CD.>doesn't even bully the wildlife himself, sets up projectors of him pretending to stomp things>kidnaps a little girl to get Sonic to race him, when insinuating that you're faster than Sonic is reason enough for him to accept your challenge>does literally fucking nothing until Stardust Speedway Act 3>the plan is for Metal Sonic to beat Sonic in a race that's rigged in his favor, with the loser being hit with an instakill laser>Metal, despite being able to fly faster than Sonic can run, loses so hard that he fucking DIES, you can even see his turbine and parts of his skull break off in his death animation>Eggman just fucking leaves Metal Sonic behind, creating one of the biggest narrative headaches in the seriesAll he has is neat music, a cool design and copying Sonic's fingerwag, at least Mecha Sonic Mark I actually fought Sonic in Sonic 2.
>>584006629Yeah, and I'm also tired of Metal in general
SHUU HRRAGH SHUU HRAAGH
>>584007051Yes and although many don’t want to admit it, the reason why is because a lot of the fans want to see Sonic and Amy become a couple in it
>>584007516The reason Metal kidnapped Amy is:
>>584008918He’s Sonic, so of course he must have Sonic’s girl. We love Metamy here.
Hello Kitty has lore? I never knew thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0TSwHOJ7XwSeriously, what the fuck is this game, also it's hilarious to hear the japanese envoys got super fucking plastered before and after that little event, now I gotta question, is Teddie going to be the persona 4 rep or will they be unique pick Rise?That dual mode is gonna be so abused there's some people on /v/ who like to talk mad shit about /sthg/ now they have no excuse but to put up or shut up
>>584007516The hidden truth is that Metal is carried by the sleek, consistent design; Mecha has always had better fights due to the unpredictability and Rocket Metal, a merger of Mecha and Metal, is the secretly the biggest wasted-potentialman in the series because LOOK HOW FAST HE CLEARED THE DEATH EGG, HE DID IN SECONDS WHAT TOOK SONIC MINUTES OMG
>>584009470free my nigga Rocket Metal
I like when Metal makes beep sounds
I wanna spank Maria.>>584009470Too many spoilers, didn't read.
You have no idea how deep my autism goes. Sticks if she a 3D platformer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJVmrdCte7g
>>584009593Creep.Weirdo. Freak.
>>584006309Nah. If anyone deserves it it's her for being a legacy.
>>584009593>I wanna spank Maria.Before or after she got shot?
wot r u doin?
>>584006621Not any more pathetic than you trying to instigate Amy and Silver fans against another when both can resonate with the characters are going through.
>>584009593>and SonicShe doesn’t know he is.
>>584009756Before, duh. There's no point in spanking a cute girl if she doesn't kick the air, cries, promises to behave, apologizes for whatever it is that you used as an excuse to spank her, and get the satisfaction of seeing your handprints cover her rear, one hard smack at a time.Gotta take her alive for "interrogation", and then spank her with, I dunno, one of these heavy thick clipboards that scientists pin papers to.
>>584007392You gas this trio far more than it's given credit.
>>584009792waiting to clock out
>>584009792normally I sex around this time but I can't do it when there's a pet in the room.
>Pictures and videos of the ST staff literally knocking back shots and glasses of liquor like professional drinkers.They did not give a single fuck lmfao. This franchise is fucked btw.
>>584009593>>584009879Kiss blonde women.Make more blonde children.
>>584009972Sad but true. Especially since Japanese people is very big on appearance, it tells a lot that employees are getting drunk during working hours, AND at a public event.
>>584009836Not when Amyfags act like this>>584009734
>>584010010I want plenty of blonde children.
>>584009657>Less than 200 viewsNigger where the fuck did you even find this?
>>584010010I'd spank Samus if I wasn't worried she could break out of everything I'd tie her in and whoop my ass. Especially Zero Suit Samus with these orange shorts...
>>584009972I think at this point even Iizuka knows and accepts this franchise is a dumpster fire.
>>584009470>ROCKET METAL IS-- BEEEEEEP!!
>>584009470Metal Sonic is better than Mecha Sonic, Mecha himself is mostly all design and no substance since his fights are disgustingly easy while Metal has at least some interesting ones (CD, Fighters, 4 Episode 2 and to a degree Mania). Metal also got an OVA focusing on him as a character. The problem is that Metal lends himself better to side games where he can be a strong boss, his purpose as a character might as well be that, but instead he gets shoved where he shouldn't be like Forces or comics.
>>584010043https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bdu4t0CkV2k
>>584009905Not really. I said I don’t really care for the trio as a unit and I still stand by that, but when weighed against other possibilities for movie plots you can’t deny it’s one of the strongest.
> メタルソニック never told you what happened to メカソニックメタル told me enough!He told me (You) killed メカ> No. メタルソニック is メカソニック...no.> Search your documentation. You know it to be true!Noooooooo! Nooooooooooh....
Replace Silver with Amy
Please notice Special BoyYou didn't forget about Special Boy did you anon? He loves you
>>583989351>"LOOK! Something happens in IDW! Comics matter.">*It's just writing off game characters.*
>>584009972I'm starting to think Sega was in the right with wanting to end the franchise...
>>584010736I didn't forget about Silver, he's cool. I should play the Rivals games someday.
>>584010020That's why it's very well possible that there barely IS a Sonic game they can announce.
>>584010934Why so? You think they were releasing pressure after a lot of working or something?
>>583992015Somehow this Sonic and current are both 15, yet have drastic physique differences. SEGA just wants to have its cake and eat it too.
>>584011003You didn't read that post right, brother.
>>584011029Holy shit, breaking news.
>>584010848Me too but not because you can't do anything more with Sonic series but because Sega just doesn't care anymoreThere is no real vision and passion in anything they do
>>584011075You're right. I missed "barely" somehow.That's just depressing.
>>584011029It wouldn't make sense regardless because Cream is younger and doesn't look like that and Shadow is in the past too. Adventure was an art style change and was kept for the flashback. It wasn't physical appearance.
>>584011107Sonic Forces was the last of their creative juices that they could squeeze out and it was slop that demoralized everyone.
>>584011196Forces was kino.
You don't have to worry about IDW or Ian Flynn anymore. It'll just take one movie flopping to shut down the whole franchise.
>>583984948Tails is literally involved in the action but now because he isn't DBZ comboing like Shadow or something it "doesn't count"?Fucking powerscalers man>>583985783>he is pissed because Chaos just flooded a city full of people because he's still angry about what happened to a few Chao thousands of years agoThis is a lot of projection. Sonic's inflection doesnt read as that at all.Are you the retard that insisted Sonic was "so pissed off at Metal Overloard"? When he said "you thought you could defeat me by transformation into a monster?">Uncalled for,Nah, pretty called for. You don't care about the series so much as care about morphing it into a weird distorted memory of it in your head>Whenever a character cracks a joke or generally makes light of something they're adding levity to the situation, which works in some circumstances, but definitely not others.None of that makes Classic tolly polly pantomiming Sonic come off as more serious lol.Sonic has always had some jokes or gags and stuff. Even in classic. Maybe not the kind or in the eay you see in LW or Colors, but they existed.https://youtu.be/kDMVvSrKc3U>>583986581>He's a selfish guy who does whatever he wants and saves the day because he feels like it.No...also Timmy being overly selfish is a flanderization.Timmy saves the day because it either has personal consequences or it is the right thing to do since 9/10 the problem is his own fault
>>584011029>>584011115It's almost like they regret redesigning Sonic to begin with when they keep showing classic design all the timeThat's only thing I take from them doing thisWhy not just make the Classic designs the series default at this point if they really miss them that much?
I'm actually going to go as far as to say Sonic Team actually hates the current state of the franchise, but know there is nothing left for it and they'll be losing their jobs after this fails because the current stability of Sonic entirely rides on Hollywood putting Sonic in movie theaters.
I think it's pretty clear thet're done with the modern iteration of Sonic and have been wanting a third Sonic to replace it with for a while, first it waa Boom and now it's Paramount
>>584010870Thank you for noticing Special BoyHave a (You)
>>584011412More like they prefer using the redesigns since they use them in almost everything, but are afraid of being dogpiled by classicfags again. Does Origins feel like something they WANTED to make to you?
Did anything important get announced what happened
>>584007516CD was made by the B-team. Naka fixed metal in the OVA, which is what he's remembered for.
>>584011535Nothing ever happens
>>584011412The reason why they keep bringing back classic is the same reason they keep modern. They have a sizable audience in the West that thinks everything outside of classic is garbage, and these people were way louder before the movie. These people were around since Adventure existed, but got really loud with Shadow and especially 06. If SEGA doesn't pander to them at all, they lose that market. Yet, they got a lot of fans in 2000s for what they were doing then, and a lot of new fans like recent stuff that pretends to return to that (Frontiers, IDW, Shadow Generations) to some extent. If they focus entirely on classic, they lose several audiences. So they just keep trying to balance it.
>>584011535More crossovers for the Sonic kart game. You have Final Fantasy 7 (the remake) now. Enjoy!
>>583989307That's still cool though.
>>584011412Just saying, they R E A L L Y should've stuck with dimensions. Say Generations created a timeline split so that new Classic adventures can happen without worrying about fitting in with Modern. Hell, it's not too late to go with split-timeline theory. You can pretty much reboot the franchise from Mania.
>>584011505All those old Classicfags have moved on with their lives and from Sonic. So why would Sega even care about appealing to such a small dying group anyway when they can rather appeal the majority of people who likes Sonic in general
>>584011115Generations really is the best worst thing to happen to the franchise.I honestly think it didn't have to be this way, but SEGA doesn't want to put in the effort needed to make this shift back to having a continuity work.
>>584011715You can remove the "best" part. It's boostslop Meta Era shit.
Sonic ruined Sonic
>>583991712>Toyoda calling out overly long text while keeping face
>>584011684They really would've've smoothed the whole split over if they really did just say Generations split the timeline, but they seemed really hellbent on just flat out saying Classic in general was a different dimension of its own which pissed off a lot of people. Now they just mashed it all together even though Mania was clearly not suppsed to take place in Modern Sonic's past.
Classicfags had their final win. They crippled Sonic forever so they could bring their trophy home, their everlasting moral victory and never look back at the scorched earth they left behind.
>>584011684Or they can just treat Classic as an artstyle and use any character they want
We give Sonic Team too little credit on creating new experiences. Fans treat the franchise like there's infinite milk to be made AND consumed.
>>583992276Amy wasn't "a gag character" anymore than Knuckles or Tails and Sonic were.
>>584011851If IDW ever got cancelled you'd see Sonic Team members coming out and stating they thought it was slop and wanted another comic. Remember when Boom was shilled and then when it got canned Iizuka said it sucked?
>>584011852Shadow Generations even introduces some of its own problems on top of that for the same reason.
>>583994734>we can't have Amy yumefag over Sonic so here is your princess carry crumbs since we think you only care about shipping.
>>583994734Why didn't they invite Omega?
>>584011918People see those fangames that are just retreats of official games that already came out and think Sonic can cook every few months if they wanted to.
>>584012101Cause nobody cares about Om*ga
>>584011684>it's not too late to go with split-timeline theoryIt is...
>>584012034You mean when Gerald was talking timelines and crap?
>>584011918The Sonic franchise is the greatest wasted potential franchise in the world
>>584012161At fucking most Manis should be split from the timeline because it presents too much fuckery to take place in the past (Classic Sonic encounters the Phantom Ruby that causes a bunch of shit to happen and goes to the future, but doesn't remember ANY of this when he gets older. Same with Eggman. His Classic counterpart used the Phantom Ruby, but doesn't remember it in the future either. )
>>584012332but what about silver? :(
>>584012161They need a reboot that rewrites everything at this point.But that's way too much effort, way too much risk, and the financial reward isn't really there.At the same time, the current trajectory is eating itself.
>>584012191Well no I mean that Shadow sees Forces and Frontiers events and he has a power set that may or may not be still a part of the character.
This animation reminded me keeping RCS was the worst mistake made in the 2020s for Sonic. If there's any reason to why Sonic is losing its influence in pop culture nowadays it's because this bum fat Deku voice nobody fucking likes was made to stick and destroyed the mental vision of what Sonic should be for people
>>584012413>>584012413>Mania should be split from the timelineWe keep losing.......
>>584012581That kinda solves itself since Shadow was MIA in half of Forces because of Infinite and didn't even show up in Frontiers.
>>584012839Right, but the prompt for Shadow Generations was that Shadow was investigating a weird set of activity on the ARK.So his typically more proactive approach should lead to him wanting to at least investigate the Starfall Islands, no?
>>584011443I sometimes wonder if they feel they've lost their touch, not just in regards to how the franchise is handled but working on Sonic at all.>>584012663Classic was always going to be split because a) some characters are just wholly different in either continuity and b) no one since Heroes has been ported forward or backward. Tongue-in-cheek references in Modern games (like the posters in Generations) never really meant much.
>>584013000Why would he investigate the islands? There wasn't really anything going on there.
>>584011876ST never treated the redesigns like it was just an art style, it was always a reboot/renewal and outside of some fringe cases, they were always iffy on mixing the two.
>>584013043some characters are just wholly different in either continuity and bWho?You mean the Chaotix who barely had any character to begin with?
>>584013043A lot of them are old af with no successors. They can't work on this franchise forever, but there is nobody to pass the torch to.
>>583992871>This one kinda looks like a Greg to me...Uhh, what?!
I really don't understand the parts of the fandom that act as if Crossworlds is actually achieving anything with its new content.It just feels hollow when none of the DLC characters actually have any of the selling points that the base roster has.
>>584013043>if they feel they've lost their touchThat goes for everyone, including the fans
>>584013197What was even the point of the reboot/renewal?They could had just kept using Classic
>>584013205>You mean the ChaotixYes.>>584013232I feel like I've remarked on that in the past as well, but yeah there doesn't seem like there's anyone passionate about Sonic over in ST to take the mantle from Iizuka. Iizuka will retire, and they'll just promote the most senior team member or they'll just import someone from another department.>>584013328Fans will flounder as a natural consequence of the franchise's direction. Some are just trying to hold onto an interest they're fond of, despite the changes. That's bound to warp outlooks as time passes.
>>584013259The game also has legal issues all over it because one day the licenses will expire and literally will not be able to be rereleased unless it just sticks to its tiny Sonic roster and tracks.
Here's your season 2 dlc road, sir.
Never forget that crossovers are the signal that are series is dying as history has shown. Sonic is literally showing the symptoms.
Did anyone leak the IDW issue?
>>584012036Amybestie have you tried eating the food first before complaining? You sound like a toddler
>>584013619Wow. Not a single Sonic character announced for a Sonic game. HYPE!
>>584013726No, and zooeyanon missed the chance to do it herself
>>584013043>no one since Heroes has been ported forward or backwardThat's just Sonic Team being dumb and autistic. Someone like Fang would easily work in Modern since we really lack good villains
>>584013338>What was even the point of the reboot/renewal?ST wanted to make Sonic work better in 3D, and make him cooler.>>584013205>Who?Amy was aged up and given a complete redesignKnuckles doesn't chuckle anymore
>>584013513If I understand correctly, at least with the Nick content, it is safe into perpetuity because of revenue splitting.Now as for Eva, Godzilla, Sanrio, and FF7R? Yeah Iunno.
>>584013726More Silverwank and Blaze doing nothing
>>584013819>ST wanted to make Sonic work better in 3D, and make him cooler.Well that failed since everything Sonic was in the Adventure is completely gone and he's just Hello Kitty for boys nowYou might as well just delete Modern all together
>>584013954If true, thank god
>>584013805They can't even keep Fang as consistently villainous/amoral in the Classic half of the continuity with the IDW one-shots.Also we already have too many Eggmercs in Modern.Then there is also the Babylon Rogues.
>>584013819>Knuckles doesn't chuckle anymoreThey can easily add that back, I never took that line in Knuckles's theme song literally
>>584000297>Reminder that Frontiers was only cyber themed to justify the blue lightning eyes from the moviesYou made this up
>>583992871Gregzilla
>>584014085Babylon Rogues are not Fang, he's uniqe and distinct enoughStop treating Sonic characters like Smurfs where only 1 character can have a certain trait and no one else
>>583993876Just keep reporting his ass until jannies get their asses up.He shouldn't be spamming on /co/ either
>>584013805I wager it's more of a lack of desire than anything. I don't think the idea of a Modern and Classic dual brand was discussed in-depth in the early years, so it wasn't about keeping some characters in either realm on purpose.Sure, they could've ported Fang, but they likely didn't really have any ideas for it at the time. That beta team setup for Heroes shows the last time they likely considered it before deciding that the Chaotix were enough.
>>584000028Did Nomura design this
>>584013805>Someone like Fang would easily work in Modern No he wouldn't, not without basically making him a new character like the Chaotix and at that point just use Infinite. He is basically everything a Modern Fang could be.
>>584013819>Knuckles doesn't chuckle anymoreDoes this count?
>>584000604Keeek history repeats itself, now we need more movie blobian ocs
>>584014228No I more mean that we already have characters and factions that don't do anything in modern yet we still have them existing and bloating up the creative space.
>>584014338>not without basically making him a new character like the ChaotixChaotix are just lame comic relief characters, not much different from what Fang is besides he's a villain>He is basically everything a Modern Fang could beInfinite is emo and angsty as fuck while Fang is more goofy and sneaky
>>584006629Metal Sonic is boring
>>584014338>>584014085Discussing this by bringing these guys up doesn't really do anything for the conversation. These characters did not exist or were even a concept when the opportune time for Fang to be ported would've happened.If anything, these characters would've had to "contend" for a similar role to a Modern Fang, not the other way around.
>>584014423Oh right. What the fuck is even going on on Sonic's home planet that made Tails just straight up flee to find someone he saw on Spacetube?
Metal Sonic is kino
Are you guys ready to see Metal and Sonic doing this too?
>>584010010Samus deserves rape
>>584004740This fanbase will go into autismo tirades and make up entire fanon personalities and excuses for Mephiles' non-character dude. Metal literally has no character outside of being a robot that wants to kill Sonic and believing he is the real Sonic. But people will call him the best character ever.There is a clear bias going on and I'm tired of pretending their isn't. People just do not treat girl characters with actual grace and then use excuses to absove themselves of accountability for it by blaming the character.
>>584011554The same B-Team SoA killed with the 32X btw
>>584014582>Infinite is emo and angsty
>>584012332Piss Shadow
Have Japanese Sonic creators straight up lied like how American ones like Tom Kalinske did for marketing
>>584001558fat
Spank Mari-ACK!
>>584006629To be fair, people called out MetalSonic for only being used for Stardustspeedway race references. Making Metal Eggman's main combat bot was the problem in of itself. It harms both characters imo.But him being used this way is Classicfags and Metalfag's own fault because they prioritized him showing up more than him being used meaningfully.>>584006935It's moreso Classicfags kept astroturfing him, makong up narratives about how Shadow "snubbed him" and he should be used more because he is the real Sonic rival or whatever.
cnc
>>584015143>narratives about how Shadow "snubbed him" and he should be used moreClassicfags usually didn't mean to prop up Metal Sonic necessarily, as he's divisive among them either. It's more about classicfags just hating Shadow and wanting him gone/made into a joke character.
Don't mess with TexasWhat if Sonic was Texan
>>584015143I can kinda see where classiccels come from, shadow is still better but i can see narraitve similarities on sonic ova for example.
>>584015384>What if Sonic was TexanThen he'd be fat, uncultured, and easily manipulated.
>>584015537WHAT IS LOVE?
>>584015429No he'd be tough and awesome and have a pickup truck instead of a plane, a drawl, and be awesome and country style instead of being Crush 40. Sonic would also eat Mexican tacos instead of Chilidogs maybe.
Metal should be his own villain and not tied to Eggman, plain and simple
>>584015605BABY DON'T HURT MEDON'T HURT MENO MORE
>>584007051If it was just 1 or the other, no. But together? Yeah. But I still dunno if it would clear Sonic Movie 3 since Shadow is just that big.>>584009470>Metal Sonic is better than Mecha Sonic, Mecha himself is mostly all design and no substance since his fights are disgustingly easy while Metal has at least some interesting ones (CD, Fighters, 4 Episode 2 and to a degree Mania)Literally the opposite. Metalfags have no self awareness.
>>584015628If only Texans weren't as sad...
>>584011115It's both. Adventure is written as if time has past since Classic and the devs said they wanted an implication that he has matured since the Classics.
>>584011702Either SoA is responsible or they're still scared of them complaining or giving bad reviews.
>>584015692>Literally the oppositeHave you fought Mecha Sonic more than once? He's incredibly slow and easy to get hits on, and his super form is even easier if you know how to deal multiple hits to him when he drops to recharge, though his attacks are also absurdly basic (the orbs and rings in particular might as well not be there). The Game Gear Mecha Sonic from 2 has a more interesting fight.
>>584011702Because general audiences like both.
>>584015361Classiccels are just jealous that shadow is now an universally beloved character as much as the classics if not more while being ''modern'' though i can sorta get how metal inspired shadow narratively (esp on sonic ova)
Are you an Amycel or a Sallythad?
>>584015898Meanwhile, in the real world, Mania, Origins and Superstars sell like shit while Frontiers becomes the best selling game and everyone loves the movies.
>>584011115>>584015810It's actually funny that cream has brown eyes an d i think sometimes the classics had grey or brown eyes. that being said i wouldn't consider the eye colors.
>>5840116841-tineline autists ruined this for us because classicucks started making conspiracy theories about Modern never continuing off of the classics or whatever. So instead of just pointing out how that is dumb, spergs overcorrected and insisted a split shouldn't ever exist at all.
>>584015810>Adventure is written as if time has pastNot really. Not anymore than any other game. And the game has flashbacks to the past with the same art style. They said that the maturity was restoring what they always wanted to convey, which recent artwork had failed to, after becoming too cutesy.
>>584013759I've been eating "look Sonic is princess carrying Amy, now clap" for years now. It does nothing for me anymore and barely did anything for me by itself to begin eith without some kind of meaningful context behind it.
>MechaCharacter with the fakest fanbase. Nobody cared about his game debut. Just a bunch of retards that glaze some shitty smbz video.
>>584011684This idea only exists to please arrogant nostalgiafags even more.
>>584013805>Someone like Fang would easily work in ModernHe literally adds nothing. He barely added anything to Classic.You just want everything shoved into what you know is the main continuity for validation. Literally no better than Archiefags.
>>584016110There's mention of an ''ascetic training in the manual''
>>584013197Stupid lying faggot. Sonic Adventure was not a reboot and nothing in your screenshot says so. They simply wanted to update the art style to convey that the characters are cool like they always intended them to be perceived and adapt them to 3D perspectives. It was always just an art style until you whined for a decade and got Generations.
>>584016301I know.
>>584016264You can't really say he wouldn't because we don't know what context he'd have. If he was a 1-to-1 port, he'd be a fine secondary antagonist.>He barely added anything to ClassicHe did what he was intended to do in all of his appearances. I don't understand this weighty expectation of a character need to be more than what's required of them.
>>584016568>>584016568>>584016568
>>584016052And we were right, the split shouldn't ever exist at all. Hopefully they kill it even further as they realize no one wants to buy the same rehashed baby slop over and over.>>584016556It's so annoying that retards think every character needs to be overly explained and "justified" instead of just existing in the continuity.
>>584015361I get that. It was less about loving Metal and more just using him to attack Shadow. The outcome is the same tho. Metal got shilled and lost his aura as a result.>>584015395Its less narrative similarities and more thematic similarities both of th being Artificially made Sonic shaped rivals. But that's kind of where it ends. Metal's character is centered around his knowing he was made to look like and defeat Sonic and having an identity crisis over it. The similarity between him amd Sonic and the wannabe element is the point.Sonic and Shadow is different. Shadow looks like Sonic by happenstance. He also existed before Sonic. His reaction to Sonic's existence is annoyance, he rather be forcing on his own shit at first until Sonic harassed him enough to impress and leave an impression. His motivation is his backstory around the ARK and thr loss of Maria, and his deal is his relationship with his edgy past.It's kind of the opposite of the Amy/Cream situation. The surface elements of Metal and Shadow have some comparison but the substance is completely different, as is the function of the character. Shadow is his oen edgy dark hero character. Metal is a Villain robot made by the series big bad.
>>584015670What would he do? It doesn't really work imo.>>584015890Whatever way you wanna shortchange Mecha doesnt matter because here you are trying to pretend Metal dying yo a wall and being a racer in R is better as a showing. Fuck outta here lol
>>584017082Be the diet cola early Shadow
>>584015994Superstars sold well actually. People like Classic as an extension of the core brand. Its literally a 2 cakes situation.
>>584017192>Superstars sold well actually.For 2010s standards, kek
>>584016110The manual literally states Sonic came back from a long journey. Amy's story mentions how she hasn't seen him in a long time.They explicitly said that in retroiting his coolness, they also wanted to convey the sense he has aged and grown as well.So it's both. They wanted to convey a sense of progression from the Classic era even if not in a serialized story sense and just an aesthetic sense.
>>584017082>here you are trying to pretend Metal dying yo a wall and being a racer in R is better as a showingI am not, I don't think Metal is even that cool, I just think he still has good bosses and that gives his existence at least some meaning, while Mecha Sonic is barely above SA1 rival battles as a boss.
>>584017393You overstate how much time passed in a series where time effectively does not pass. The "past" bullshit was invented for Generations, to justify the nostalgia bait split.
>>584016197You've been saying this shit for years when you losers only pretend to like Metal in the game because of the Meme OVA.Mecha in Sonic 2 was actually a hard bossfight and his design was intimidating. MrkII raised the stakes and was so tough, Knuckles had to deal with him even after Sonic temporarily downed him and then he used the ME to go Super.He piloted several of Eggman's mechs as well. Metal being used as Eggman's enforcer nowadays is literally just Metalfags trying to absorb Mechas traits into Metal to try and make him seem like a bigger deal than he ever was.Pinnochio looking ass fraud of a character.
>>584017496I didnt overstate anything. I literally just said that it was a thing because it was.
>>584017837You tried to sneak your way into forcing new brand shit into the original intention and you got caught, just admit it and apologize. Some time passed, like between every other game.
>>584017908What the actual fuck are you talking about, schizo?
>>584017429>Mecha Sonic is barely above SA1 rival battles as a boss.Now we are just telling lies.
>>584018189The truth. >>584015810>It's both. Adventure is written as if time has past since ClassicYou tried to claim Adventure was written with a separate "Classic" brand in mind. THAT IS FUCKING FALSE. I called you out and you backtracked and moved the goal post.
>>584018312Omfg no that is not what I said. Youre projecting/reading shit into my post that isn't there now to try and avoid accountability. You originally claimed i "overstate how much time passed in a series where time effectively does not pass".No i didn't.You talk shit about taking Ls because youre just projecting your own stubborness
>>584018728This was your original claim >>584015810. It was false. Sonic Adventure does not equate the old art style to the past.
>>584016941>Its less narrative similarities and more thematic similarities both of th being Artificially made Sonic shaped rivals. But that's kind of where it ends. Metal's character is centered around his knowing he was made to look like and defeat Sonic and having an identity crisis over it. The similarity between him amd Sonic and the wannabe element is the point.I just rewatched the ova because i didn't in a situation to watch anything else for now and i can say that there are similarities beyond that, i will refer to sonic ova, there, the rivalry or redeem/antihero angle is played up more here, where sonic is specifically pissed/ticked off that a darker version with similiar abilities and strength exists and stirs up shit the owl and i think the president when seeing the cam recordings mistake metal and sonic for one another. they also do the ''they are one and the same'' and ''they are like twins'' thing sometimes shadow and sonic use, Metal does a heroic heel turn sacrifice int he end similiar to shadow and sonic is personally affected by it due to soul connection/themes or whatever. ''there is only one sonic'' can be considered similiar to ''you are the real ultimate life form'' etc. ofc you can say that ''ova isn't canon'' and you'd be right but it's the only ''story'' that uses metal in some manner and this isn't like satam or nicky manga, it had sonic team members involved in it so it is possible some stuff inspired shadow.
>>584015384Nothing changes
>>584016197You realize SMBZ Metallix is literally just a beefed up Metal in lore right?
>>584017192>Superstars sold well actuallyWhere's the Plus version then?
>>584017192>People like Classic as an extension of the core brand.Shut up Iizuka
>>584017192>Superstars sold well actuallySo did the Sonic 4s, in fact, it didn't outside Ep1 which is ironic enough.>>584017251Late 00s standards even, this isn't impressive
