>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins on November 4th.>Previous Thread>>583967053
first for gnome onaholes
why cant I find a cute boy to play with me
>>584000739FtM boy here if you want to play
>>584000527>>your stun trinket racial has its usesunderstatement of the century. Imagine just completely wiping off a Kidney Shot, Bash or Hammer of Justice lmao. Rogues now won't even open on you anymore.
our chud lore master has spokenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyFpBDDI0Dg
>>584000794>0 viewsadvertising is not allowed
>balancind the game around streamerszased
>want to pvp>join a group of real human beings>get 100% winrate in bgs no matter what faction or class I picked
I want to play with Tall Red Haired Woman who has pale skin, fweckles, prominent front teeth, and prominent clavicle. And she also meticulously decorates things. She is perfect.
>>584000739Because forever ist for us 30+ year old baldies
why do the devs they hate ele so much
>everybody is running in place>cant even log out>dont want to altf4 since it will nuke my setting changesbeen staring at this shit for like 5 minutes now who the fuck increased the network timeout to these obscene levels
can i play world of warcraft without having to be reminded that the griftergold has his minions FUCKING EVERYHWERE HOLY SHIT
>>584000776Reminder that its on the GCD
>>584000660threadly guild recruitment post>20m>PvP>horde>EST>raid times TBDprogression focused, casuals are welcome too. we'll have a more laid-back 10m group on off-days.<Remigration>https://discord.gg/TAvXMh3zythreadposter, can i get an inclusion?
could we have a reasonably normal 4chan guild? i'm going to go horde and probably pvp
>>584000794>lore autismjesus christ get a real hobby
>>584001042Yes, I'll call it <Zandalari Basketweaving>
>>584001035Buy an ad
>>584001042nopeyou will have a guild of tranny bf drama and nothing else
>>584001042i liked the name "mandate of heaven"
>>584001029Oh no! It's on the GCD!?!? Guess it's terrible then!!! Imagine giving any class an ability which removes stuns on command. It's hilarious how broken this racial is and the brown human paladin esfand lookalikes are so obnoxious and loud they just make noise about orc racials instead.
>>584001193cringe shii
What's a good class to duo with a hunter?
>>584001325another hunter
>>584000985Enhancement is still incoherent and Resto just got stuff from the next two expansions. Paladins hate them and we all know who the pet class is.
>start your own dungeon group>dps fills up instantly>start looking for healer>"hey group leader I found us a healer!">"please invite him quickly, his name is Änáàndér Miänáài"bravo blizzard
>>584001307It just means you use it and get blinded or gouged on it before you can do anything. Its still strong, but not as good into rogues as it seems
>>584001193christ dont remind me of those dark times
>>584001429>he do no have da adon
>>584001035
>>584001193the original tranny containment guild
>>584001325druid, shaman, priest me thinks
>>584001490Get some mental help
>>584001307Both Orc and Human stun racials are obviously strong. But people are directly comparing Human to their retail racial which does not and never has had a gcd. Having a gcd is a pretty big deal since you are essentially still eating 1.5s of not being able to cast anything.
>>584001493i like the name
>>584001307Orc racials are ridiculous though.>human can break 1 (one) stun every 3, minutes>rogues can just reset the fight and then kill you in a stun>orc will now beat human in this scenario as they reduce the time on every cheap and every kidney over the course of the fight>they also have magic damage reduction which even works on rogues because of poisons and shits all over every caster>human racial is entirely powercrept by a level 25 potion that gives stun immunity for 30 secondsHuman GCD stunbreak every 3 minutes is nothing. This isn't wrath "every man for himself" which was literally just a trinket, stuns are few and far between in Vanilla, while magic damage reduction is way more useful.>Imagine giving any class an ability which removes stuns on commandBro, your blink?
>>584001042we are forming one. we've got about 9 people, so far. see the post directly above yours. unless you're fucking with me>>584001138i did buy an ad
>>584001454untalented gouge is useless and no one picks that up until late in the game. Forcing a rogue to blind off the bat is a nightmare for them. They've just lost a reset and bandage.
>>584001581This is why wow pvp should be a minigame where there's a completely separate skill tree no racials nothing and you only level up pvp weapons or some shitY'all are ruining it for the rest of us
>>584001586whats the tranny count
>>584001638Statistically probably 0.
Who do you think is her favorite?
>>584001698>vague maybespozzed guild. skip
>>584001741i'm starting a guild and you have to send in a picture of your penis to CONFIRM that you are white and circ'd (US ONLY)
>>584001809>circ'dyou a jew
Is it possible to heal properly as a paladin at low level? I oom really fast.
>>584001627No, that's retarded. XIV has that crap and XIV pvp is the worst of any mmo.>hmm i want to go pvp with my class I spent 60 hours mastering>oh wait its an entirely different game and has literally 0 ties to my character or my progressionfeels stupid and worthless
>>584001836my people are the chosen ones. our land was promised to us by the creator. our guild is only for true warriors of god, and goyim who support the cause.
>>584001809>you are white and circ'dOxymoron. No white is circumicised.
Should I go dwarf or UD paladin?
>>584001029For warriors this isn't as big a deal because you're not gcd capped or anything. Your swing timer starts normally. It's a bigger issue for classes like mages who would for example nova right after, but lack the ability to because of the gcd.
>>584001627This is why I'm glad the 'community' isn't in charge of shit. Blizz may be shit but you fucks are worse.
>>584001847only press flash of light and holy light if the tank is under 50% unless you know he's safe, and drink the instant you leave combat
>>584001946i'm sorry. no euros or canadians allowed.
>>584001901Feels stupid that the whole game is being nerfd around pvp
>>584001901But that's cool. It lets you have good abilities that are designed for the content
>>584001962Pvp retards like you are sucking all the fun out of wow for the 4th time now
>>584001638zero. as policy, trannies are not allowed in <Remigration>
>>584002019Pve fags are so soft
Night Elf Male SD Models are S O V L.This guy is planned to be a Resto / Bear Tank Dual Spec Druid.
>>584001581>orc will now beat human in this scenario as they reduce the time on every cheap and every kidney over the course of the fightThat's bullshit though. I WAS a rogue player (they look dog shit in this, so will be trying something else this time round) and I'd pick fighting a WoWF Orc over a Human any day. Vanilla Orc would have been a different story. You should be timing stuns regardless, your rotation is still the same and your reset opportunities are the same. Meanwhile, Human can completely ruin your resets AND catch you out of stealth with ease. This is before we've even mentioned what class they are.>they also have magic damage reduction which even works on rogues because of poisons and shits all over every casterIt's 15% magic reduction, it's nice and I can see that being brought down to 10% for sure, but even mentioning it in the context of a rogue fight is ridiculous; the only time it's useful is vs Druid for FF.>>584001581>>human racial is entirely powercrept by a level 25 potion that gives stun immunity for 30 secondsyou're really going to bring proffs into this? The thing that any race can get? I'm sure they'll add a magic varient of Limited Invulnerability Potion anyway. This is all making rogue's life harder anyway.>blinkYeah, the single strongest ability in WoW. Give Blink to any class and you break them and what a coincidence, Mage is the strongest class in Vanilla.
>>584002019>why don't they change a game that's been the way it is longer than I've been alive???Your ideas are shit and you should ack yourself.
>>584002056WoW is a pve game, pvp is just an addon for retards like you who are incapable of socializing in the game and finding a group
>>584002026really ought to consolidate these in between now and release. it'd be great if each realm/faction had one for the boys.
>>584001987the only 2 canadians i know are circumcised
>>584002062Okay but why the gay mustache and hair combo?
>>584002086>You can't do both
>>584002086>World of WARcraft>intro cinematic is all PVP
>>584002130I like it. Moustaches are ludokino.
>>584002086You retards always say this when pvp servers always get more players. pvp on the beta has more than 100k more than pve.
>>584002130its what i look like IRL and i want my character to represent me in game
reminder pvp and raids were added at the last possible minute. pvp was debated on by devs if it should be in the game at all, and mc was created in 1 weekend
>>584002191>pvp servers always get more playersThat was the case 20 years ago maybe, if you're grown up you're fed up of world pvp but i have a suspicion you're not....
>>584001989>>584002013PvP templates literally killed pvp and that was just stat normalization, imagine how awful it would feel if it was your entire class.
>>584002228separate from pve? great so you pvp fags can whine in your own little cornerim sick and tired of pvp retards crying about how class xyz is so much stronger in pvpeveryone playing pve will have to suffer the same way eventhough they dont play pvp
>>584002191>tfw initially thought the beta level cap was 20 and that we weren't going to meet the other faction anyway and rolled pveFeels bad
>>584002212So they added the best parts of the game at the last minute
>>584002280The game simply wasn't made for you so fuck off
>>584002228Feels ok man, play both games
>>584002117as far as i know, there is nobody else trying to form a horde pvp /vg/ guild. i think that guy was joking. if there is, i'm open to merging
>>584002212because retards were crying that theres nothing to do>>584002350exactly for you, the game was a pve game first and foremost
The only people who hate wow pvp are the ones who suck at it.
>>584002071Rogue will now lose to all of the following classes if Human: >Mage>Hunter (extra lolz if it's Survival)>Warlock (even if you're UD)>Paladin>Shadow Priest assuming equal skill and gear.
>>584002385And the devs decided against it being a purely pve game and have balanced the game around both pve and pvp for 20 years, so you're wrong and gay!
>>584002413t. underage faggot because "ganking is so much fun haha"grow up
Why is the orc racial shatter curse anywaysThe problem with orcs is theyre VERY corruptable and forever cursed
which class is the most submissive
>>584002436yep typical pvp retardation at play here
>>584002212wait wait, you're telling me, that Blizzard added the end-game content... last?
>>584002481priest/paladin
>>584002490>i cant counter his logic and facts oh no!disgusting kike
>>584002534>gay>kikethere's no logic lol grow up that's all there is to say
>>584002481druid
>>584002470hordes are honorable and hierarchical unlike human goyim that are greedy capitalist pigs that fall for one jewish trick after another until they become undead
wait where are the fucking caravan carts that you could hop on
>>584002481mage
I'm ganking every alliance pve faggot I see
ReminderFatgrend never actually confirmed High ElvesHe just gave a non answer to make you faggots believe they are comingThe Skyborne ARE the High Elves
>>584002736And how will you do that on a pve server?
>>584002636Ascensionbro...
What class is your Ogre going to be? One head or two?
I'm not asking anymore, play dwarf shaman! I need the windfury totem
>be haelerCHAD>decide to run a dungeon>make a group>instantly bombarded by simps whispering and begging for an invite>"50s upront pay, all greens are reserved">invite only high level players who don't share my armor class>if they aren't at the entrance right away, I kick and replace them within 5 seconds>get a free carry, all while earning 2g and lots of greens to DE GG ez
Which race are the jews
>>584002807two header holy/shadow ogre
>>584002557disgusting gay fairy kike who defies that the game was made with pvp in mind and is so anally devastated and mind raped by the time a gnome mage reverse 100-0d him after he thought his 1337 rougheue skills would instawin
>>584002838dwarf
>>584002814only if you call me a good girl
>>584002838
>late autumn>it's cold and rainy outside>I'm sitting in front of my PC in my blanky and hot cocoa>I have 2 weeks off to play WoW Forever>I WILL be enjoying the game, levelling every class to 60>I WILL be ignoring cancer streamers and metafags>I WILL read and complete every single available quest>I WILL have fun with the bros exploring Azeroth anew
>>584002854>the game was made with pvp in mind.... thats why everything pvp related was added with 0 thought and effort
why are half of the youtube videos about forever mentioning dads?
>>584002981we fuck dads around herethis game is for dilf lovers
>>584002931>Y-YOU CANT HECCIN DO THAT>IT WONT BE COLD LE HECCIN GLOBAL WARMONGRINO IS GONNA FINNA GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING LE HOT>VOTE HARRIS NOVEMBER CH-CH-CHUUUUUUUUUD
>>584002452It is fun. Ganking pve shitters if fun. Camping quest areas is fun. Preventing faggots from mining/herbing is fun. Overrunning the enemy factions towns and cities is fun. Making others take 10min spirit runs is fun. Watching salty redditors like yourself call pvp a minigame is FUN.This is world of WARcraft. The entire goal is fucking with the people who picked the wrong faction. If you are playing this game just so you can stand still pressing 1 button at tank n' spank bosses once a week you are not sane.
>>584002931>level every class to 60 in 2 weeks while taking your time
>>584002931same but im only going to lvl 3 classeswarrior, druid, and im not sure on the 3rd yet
>>584002981zoomer fraud mentality where they know this game isn't for them, but is actually for pussy having dad cock chads. They NEED to go back to Roblox/Fortnite.
>>584002936says you, clearly the devs have put thought into it because as you say they are balancing the game around it. so which is it, an afterthought minigame mode that gets no attention or in your words "a mode that takes away from pve in regards to balance patches"? Hmmmmmm? You can't choose both
>>584003062>zero skill pvp is funonly people who are bad at pvp roll on pvp serversganking is the only way they can find happiness in pvp
>>584003062Damn that's crazy>goes PvE realm
Im going horde pve so I can date all the gamer dads who hate pvp like me
>>584003249homewrecker
>>584003072The first playthrough will be sovlkino 2 week long classic mode leveling on my main. I'll chip away at the rest over the course of about a year or so.
>>584002854You have to be 18 to post here
>>584002807shaman/mage/warlock only two headed the rest are one head
>>584003062>Ganking pve shitters if funIf you're a teenager maybe
>>584003467>ERM AKSHUALLY ADULTS ARE TOO MATURE TO PVPWho started this new cope?
>>584003249Literally a pve tranny
Is it hard to tank as paladin at around lvl 18 if I spec'd into ret
>>584003563If you have a job there's no fun in pvp ganking at all
>>584003563people who are good at pvp
>>584003062This is why every minigame faggot is a psychopath and needs to be locked in asylum.
>>584003062Holy based
>>584003578erm im a cisgender hrt srs femboy
pvp is based
they guted ret aura completely because some retards want to win 100k on an unofficial pvp tournamentbut mage is still oneshot op.......
I don't want to fight other people and get shit talked, I want to cooperate with my friends to complete fun challenges and collect dressup items. PvP is much more stressful and emotionally charged. Also toxic players i.e. Asmonfagoids.
>>584002413pvp requires different keybinds and i simply don’t want to set them up
if i even was desperate enough to get a wowwife id at least want her to be a PvPchad and not a pvecucklord
>>584001325Unironically another hunter
>>584003730Didn't asmon roll PvE?
i like pvp because it makes the world feel alive and i like having to fight alliance to level in a zone
>>584003776Yes and i hate it.
>>584003691It definitely had nothing to do with prot pallies doing 80% of the total damage in a dungeon with just ret aura and consecration.
>>584003830who cares
Are the legacy points bound to a ruleset and/or faction?
>>584000739because no one wants to play with a morbidly obese mentally retarded man who's head looks like a thumb
Kek pve trannys have to play with shabbosmongold
>>584003691a lot of recent changes are for the dumb streamer tournament. But thorns and ret aura was blatantly OP as fuck and anyone who thought it would avoid the nerf hammer is insane.
>>584003884yep meanwhile real chads get to play with big xar and mn
>>584003861nope. only hardcore has its own separate legacy talents
>>584001042You think you do but you don't
>>584003861No. The only exception is for Hardcore. You have to earn all your legacy points on HC if you wanna use them there. The points you earn from other rulesets won't be there on HC.
all the same ritual posters shitting up the threaddriving off anyone that doesn't accept their faggot spam and avatarfagging
>>584002838>manipulate shit behind the scenes, sometimes multiple factions having them fight each other>issa not religion, issa people>create multiple golems, some of which rebel>it's never enoughDemons
I’ve stopped playing the beta, pointless when everything’s getting wiped. Tried what I wanted, gonna roll human white male warrior, as always.
>>584003893none of that was "OP" you people keep tossing that word around
>>584002814The dwarf shaman cartel has agreed upon a fixed 30g per dungeon fee and one choice of item that drops.
>pveYou aren't playing the game
>>584002814If I could also make alliance on the PvP ruleset I would.
laugh at anyone lame and gay enough to play a dwarf shamanthat's gayer than playing skyborne
>>584004101But whay if I get into a fight once while speedrunning from 1-60 using some add-on that half automates the optimal route for me :(
MinigameGODS rise up
>>584003407
>>584003407you don't know that
>>584003893>fun identified and removedThanks blizzshill, very cool.
>>584003778and at lvl60?
>I need to parse!!! I need to stick my head up the bosses ass!!! I need to do my one button rotation against it's mighty ankle!!! I'M RAIDING!!!
>>584004348I go to redridge to gank and run when other 60's show up.
>>584004101>he says while running back again from the 456th gank of the day
raiding takes more skill than pvp, I’ve said what I said
how are the professions?can you realistically level with crafting professions? is engineering still meta?
Red Hair with Fweckles is BIS for woman.
>memorizing a bosses rotation and attacks with 39 other people is hardit's like synchronized swimming basically
>>584004468You've always been able to realistically level professions while you level. There was just never a point to do it before.and yes if you are remotely serious about pvp then engineering is mandatory.
>>584004549>39 other peoplelmao shitter self-reportgood players 5 man 40man raids
Holy paladin is going to be the most fun PvP spec in the game, can’t wait
>>584004587>retail tranny
Ahhhh the 4 players of wow forever
>>584004549i want mythic mode. legion mythic progression was my favorite raiding in wow. i realize that other people don't like it because it's too hard but man it feels really good to have a tight group of dudes executing the synchronized swimming perfectly.
>>584004061i don't understand how you could see it's performance and not think it's overtuned.
>>584004602>kited>oom>fun
>>584004651idgaf about pvp anon
>>584003730god damn you're cute, I bet your cage was leaking as you typed thatyou're still going to roll pvp and heal like you're supposed to, you know that right?
>>584004651OP doesn't mean "overtuned." A lot of things are overtuned, but that doesn't make them OP.
>>584004636>repostingfuck off fag
>>584004658skill issue
>>584004715yeah but why are there only 4 people online to group with?
>>584004674
>I killed Onyxia!I killed you.>But... but I killed Ragnaros! I was in a raid that killed Cthun!I killed YOU>No this can't be happening I'm a raider, I RAIDED I'M A HERO I MADE THE NUMBER GO UPYou died by my hand
is forever gonna die before naxx just like classic did back in 2019?
is balance druid actually decent/viable now or is it still just memey cuckery?
>>584004674Gay fucking faggot
>>584004792it's 5:30 AM why are you on a pay-to-play beta for the re-re-re-release of a 20 year old game?
>wake me up>no beta invite>(can't wake up)
>>584004671i don't give a fuck about pvp, it's doing like 50% of my damage in dungeons
Playing a warlock and a rogue right now>warlock>"these enemies are 5 levels higher and they're tightly clumped together, if i aggro 3 of them i might have to run away>rogue>these enemies are only one level below me if i aggro 2 i'll die instantly
>>584004634https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntvZU4GVPP0
i think i figured it out. i am not even gonna play normal forever shit ill just wait until hardcore comes out. It gives me time to see if the game is complete dogshit thats worth my time or not
The good thing about classic was that you didn't need to listen to constant whining from retards about their class getting nerfed.It's the beta and people are screeching every time something clearly unbalanced gets nerfed. Imagine what happens with the actual release.
The AI sloppers have completely killed the rule 34 section of WoW with their trashIt's either fag shit or furry fag shit, they really thought this was the time to start being artists and making a patreon for their slop lol
>>584004923>paladin>lmao>warrior>i might get one then die
I still dont know what class to play.
>>584005029That happened in classic, they've been constantly whining for at least the last 8 years
>>584005079same sisprobably gonna main ret pallyalt a hunteralt a warrioraaaaand yeah
>>584004648I want lineage 2 back, where you bring 200 people to a raid fight that lasts hours and boils down to gearchecks. Fuck mechanics and collective jump the rope.
>>584005028you cant play hardcore blind
>>584005079you are not a girl anon. you are a male above thirty god i hope youre not above 40
>>584005171nta but Im 41 in two weeks
>>584005079Play the class that best reflects your racial soul, and then cling to it when it's bad and bitch and moan and beg for buffs and deny being overpowered when you do get buffs and crush those who are unloved by Blizzard until the cycle repeats. Just like old retail long ago, you might call it the true vanilla experience. You don't need to reinvent the wheel or think about anything, just bee yourself.
>>584005171but I do look like dat doe
>>584000660Latest blizz slop is hittin the markets fast and we all want a piece of it. Tired of having to play with the same dead beat 30+ year old chuds every release? Try join some 20 year old chuds instead !. <Los Pollos Hermanos> is welcomin any players willing to no life launch, ideally you have hands but if not its ok. We are willing to carry anyone so long as they are a chiller , actually play the game and there's some willingness to improve. This is a YUROP/INTERNATIONAL GUILD (eng main lang) . We will be playing ally in eu, the goyim are all going horde and we wanted to make it interesting. (this was not decided on the out come of a 50/50 colombia b league football match at all) Its a small guild, got people from sweden,austria,australia, spain , italy etc. Raid time is 4pm SATURDAYS CET. add me so i get to know you first pmos2
>>584004875weird. i pugged a raid and cleared it in gw2 while waiting....
>>584005220as long as you dont larp as a teenage girl youre fine
>>584002779>>584002736didn't they admit that it's just one giant server even with the split? i thought at blizzcon they said pve can see pvp players while admitting that the pvp player cant do anything to the pve player in the outside world, but if the pve player enables pvp or fights the player they will interact normally iirc but they could just throw that whole saying out the window
>>584005332nah I larp as an adult dick girl who fucks teenage girls
>>584005369that doesn't make any sense at all. it means you're technically playing on a pvp server as pve, you get to 60, flag, and then gank people. that's never going to happen. not sure where you got such a fanciful notion.
>>584005369>didn't they admit that it's just one giant server even with the split?no. there are basically 3 separate servers.
can we delete pvp from the game finally
how does it feel to play pally?actual classic pally was great for second monitor porn, but i tried it in sod and actually really enjoyed it. i almost always go woyer and i like to have buttons to click.how is pinky?
>>584005369No.Every region is split into PvP, PvE and RP.
OK, which one of you filthy chuds did this?
Why does playing wowf make me want to kiss boys???
>>584005227how do I connect with my racial soul?
>>584005615
I can't wait to melt clothcucks
having two 5 point talents in one row feels fucking bad.
>>584000985aggrend got oneshotted by ele shaman in 2019 classic
>>584005725you either already have or you never will. me, i'm a rogue. i don't have to think about it. it was my first class, and my second, third, fourth, and fifty seventh. they can be top dps or they can be dogwater, i'm playing rogue.
>>584003072Nobody said anything about levelling all classes to 60 in two weeks.Take your meds, schizo
>>584005837Sorry but there's a bunch of high armor cloth now.
>>584005837>gets hunter's marked and serpent stung
>>584005908how interesting, I consulted the Sortes Homericae right after I asked and it gave me these>the rule of the many is no good. Let there be one ruler>I am this very man, back home now. And after many toilsit is also telling me to pick the class I always return to, even though my rational mind tells me to try something new
hope we have actual big server events similar to AQ that open up the world... of warcraft forever since that is the closest thing to making the game alive than just throwing people into a fucking raid patch after patch
>>584006043to elaborate, the first character I played seriously was a blood elf paladin, seeing as there are no belfs I may have to opt for a boneboy in order to remain in the same faction
>>584005885They should reduce most 5 point talents down to 3 or less points and add more choice in the trees. For optimal raiding there should only be like 20 points in a tree and the other 11 points would be something more situational or nice to have outside of raids
>>584006043see, you get it. i have the same higher-order wayward thoughts, but the blood memory reminds me that even when i play another class, all my keybinds are categorical mirrors from my rogue, so really, i'm always playing rogue.
>>584006067to add, getting to hyjal or unlocking dalaran could have been it's own event like AQ, hell have the "server" unlock the playable worgens in gilneas or future races or classes. its a way to make their "forever history" and world/player storytelling than just going off by the retail timeline
>>584006067I know it's not necessarily popular among Classic's fans but the opening of the Dark Portal and entering Hellfire Peninsula for the first time is one of the most Kino moments in WoW. Maybe it could work as a temporary thing.
>>584006067They should do some kind of alt leveling event where every account gets an exp boost for one character of your choice and when enough new characters hit level 60 a new raid or BG gets unlocked. Lore wise it could be something about needing to build an army
>>584006067>>584006249>>584006254No, thank youBeen there done that, do not wantSay no, to lag fiestas
>>584006392didn't ask, thirdie. upgrade PC.
>>584006392we have phasing grandpa, relax
>>584005837*kisses you on the lips*Not so tough now huh?
i hate the reactive nerfing they're doing just because there's real money on the line
>>584006712He clearly has no lips.
>Vulpera in ForeverBut wait just a second...>the females look like Krystal Fox, Loona, Renamon, etc
>>584006392it really seems like they're very close to solving the lag issues in those situations. i've never seen so many people on the screen at once move without constant input freezes.
>>584006750Warn down from kissing so many cute boys... how exciting!
>>584006392>Say no, to lag fiestasGet a job, stop being a poorfag, upgrade your shitty toaster.
>>584006823It all goes to shit when people start using abilities, just moving is fine
https://exhentai.org/s/1e2d350ad4/4244100-13Where can I find an orc to do this to my humie?
I think i have decided to go dorf sham and gnome rogue
>>584006851tell blizzard that, not meand while you're at tell them to take their recycled retail assets and shove them up their faggot asses
>>584006874it degrades, sure, but nothing like it did before. i've always thought raids on capitals were the dumbest thing in the game, since it's a janky retarded mess and you usually kill the king by exploiting the lag and bugging out half the city on the way. it's substantially better than it's ever been before. i am of course talking about server side lag, not toaster lag.
>>584007001>poorfag cope
>>584006067This kind of stuff is why I think WoW Forever will ultimately fail.>event happens and passes>now all new players or people who didn't login during the event never get to experience it>this creates fomo, just like retailSame with PvP seasons and the Legacy point system. Do we have to grind new legacy points every season? if not, do people with max points just get all the season rewards right away? and if so, who the fuck is going to level 10 classes to 60 every goddamn season?Seasonal fomo content killed retail. Why should I log into forever if I take a break for a year and ended up missing 3 cool big world shaking events, a pvp season or two, and legacy point shit? Are all of these going to be like Marvel Rivals battlepasses where they are eternal and you can do them at your own pace? I doubt it.
>>584006556>>584006609ohh more than one retarded shill responded, this was for you too>>584007001
>>584005837good luck
>>584005837>rapes you
>>584007085>Same with PvP seasons and the Legacy point system. Do we have to grind new legacy points every season? if not, do people with max points just get all the season rewards right away? and if so, who the fuck is going to level 10 classes to 60 every goddamn season?just take a second to think about how dumb that is and you'll realize that this figment of your imagination is never going to happen. >Seasonal fomo content killed retail. I'm pretty sure that's not true. I'm pretty sure everyone who missed the first halloween is excited for the second halloween. speaking of which it's almost the 19th, i wonder if they'll do the halloween stuff on beta.
So whats the point of going say Leatherworking or Tailoring when you can just buy the gear that's made from both professions and go Engineering instead?
>>584007085>why 9/11 isn't happening every year on repeatAre you for real right now? There is seasonal fomo grind which sucks sure, but big events happening whether you are there to experience them or not is how you make world feeling alive.
how raped is balance druid?
>>584007280rpg fun
>>584007280The good gear is bop
>>584007280Most of the good gear is actually bind on pick up so you can only craft it for yourself.
>>584007280While levelling you have a strong blue every 10 levels for one slot that is BoP. I think that's not worth it.For that you have to put a lot of money into the profession, I would recommend picking dual gathering and just buying the boe the craft cucks put up on the AH for vendor price.
>>584007085you're high.the world should change. it's not about "missing out". if you walk away for three years and it's the same as you left it, that's a problem. if you take a break for a year, you should miss raid tiers. you should miss dungeons. you should miss events.the world should be progressing. i mean this sincerely, i hope they don't listen to people like you. you have bad opinions and a bad view of the game.one-off events are awesome. it feels great to be a part of them. and having bits and pieces to remember those events is cool. i've got a companion pet from the beijing olympics from 2008. i had a haunted memento, and i threw it away. i've got presents from multiple winter's veils, and i also missed a lot of them. that's part of the journey.
>>584007451>While levelling you have a strong blue every 10 levelsNot anymore you dont you get like 2,3 up to 150
>>584007451>dual gatheringalways.then drop for engineering + something else if you're a meta slave, otherwise dual crafting professions for goldmaking.
>>584007535If reddit and /vg/ get their way crafting will only have 1 useful item at max level just like in nilla
>>584007451yes, the game is easier in a fundamental way, with classes having earlier access to the full functionality of their class, so you really don't need these items at all. obviously your first class should just be some kind of double moneymaking if you want to go optimally, doesn't matter how much it makes, because you're rushing to 60 with a hunter or something ez to build a legacy point, bag and gold stockpile that will make your first alt much easier to level. but if you want to enjoy more class appropriate professions, you can do that too, and it's cool that they made that more worthwhile.
>>584003249come on EU RP and Ill let you cuck my girlfriend
rogue quests are legit such a noob trap>kill goblin elite on top of tower>realize I did not level lockpicking hight enough>walk of shame back to boat>3 other rogues there doing the same shit
>>584007604I really wish the devs would just ignore it but I know thats not going to happen. The only balance I want is classes to be MOSTLY balanced. I dont care if a priest can win 100% of the time vs feral while losing 100% against locks or whatever. If theres some broken level 20 weapon who gives a fuck. Warriors running around with whirlwind axe at like level 30 is cool.
>>584007256They didn't do the darkmoon faire, but the halloween stuff is on the calendar.>>584007280Legacy points, and craft professions have more BoP stuff.
They should do long ass class quests that start at level 1 and end at level 60
>>584007918yes dude. you have to kill 48,000 boars and you turn it in and it gives you enough xp to ding 60
>>584007796Sadly the minority that wants the game to be really fucking boring is the loudest.
AUGHHHHH IM FUCKING BORED WOWNIGGERSTHE BETA IS PLAYED OUT AND DEGENERATEI TRIED HC ERA BUT IT'S GAY!!!!!AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>584007948They should give you a personal quest where you kill yourself to complete it
There's nothing to do until forever launches but shitpost on 4chin...
>>584008001Play something else and come back later
>>584008019i'll have to wait to turn that one in until i finish up the sex with your mom quest
>queue BFD on my healer>instantly grouped with three lvl 30sbut I....
>>584007796everything will be much healthier when this tournament charade is over and people are playing the game in a natural way. i can't even enjoy vicarious gameplay from streamers because they're just running optimal skip speed runs on stupid dungeons over and over again for some stupid new item I know nothing about, it's so fucking boring, it almost diminishes my excitement to play. they should've ended the beta already.
>>584003407this is just the human condition
Why don't they just make it so skinning prof gives you crit, like in tbc.Cba being a metaslave and going Engi/Lw
>>584008079the plan should have been to crack open the floodgates for everyone in the last 2 weeks to stress test everything.
>>584003407umm actually it will for at least a week
>>584008120That sounds very sovlless
When is the gay tournament?
>>584007451>>584007558I usually do this but it's a massive headache not having a gathering profession when I need something crafted for Engineering or leatherworking, it's like I almost need a 2nd character dedicated to farming.
>>584008145that's what i assumed they would do. maybe they still will for the last 2 or 3 days or something. but maybe they have the data they need and the AI running everything can adjust in real time for the full populationn.
>>584008145And raise the cap to 60 so people can actually test everything since shit is broken across the board and we're only half way to level cap.
>>584008079the tournament has already ruined the game and it's not like they are going to revert the stuff back they changed, it's all going to be left as isthat penance nerf is crazy, they just straight up gutted that skill in it's entirety, it might as well not even be in the game anymore
>>584008259blizzard catering to streamers and their tournament has been disaster so farGame was literally way better at start of beta compared to now
reminder to have FUNOR ELSE
I'm gonna do it.I'm gonna bring sexy back.
>>584008259i think it can be salvaged, i have a ton of optimism, but i know what you mean. i was excited to experience all these changes, no matter how crazy the changes seemed, and a bunch of them are already gone, so i never will. that just sucks and i wish i never knew about these now inaccessible states of the game at all.
I wish that tipsout faggot was dead and all the pvp streamers were hanging dead from nooses
>>584007468And look where retail is. The world changed and the game is dead and shit. So dead the entire blizzard staff are now grifting to classic enjoyers. >>584007256So what happens when the next set of Legacy point rewards come out after the bear? Can you tell me? What happens with pvp seasons every 3 months? Can you tell me? Because it sounds a lot like retail fomoslop M+ seasonoroony dooney to me.
>>584008410buy an ad>>584008204
>niggers in this thread crying about forever not being another sodomy version where everything is op and balanced is completely thrown out the windowYou realize their idea for the game is to be you know... actually playable for more than two weeks? No you being able to lay on hands every 12 seconds as priest was not good for the game nor was paladins doing 2/3rds of the total dps of a dungeon because they pressed a single spell. Like holy fuck how dumb are you?
>>584008505>paladins doing 2/3rds of the total dps of a dungeondisingenious
>>584008505at a certain point balance becomes homogeneity.
>>584008343>"MMO">Screenshot of being aloneYou're sad anon...
>>584008525You're right they also had to make sure they had the right aura on.>>584008554>if you nerf me being unkillable because of a single spell that I could spam the game is uhm actually not fungo back to retail or sodomy or whatever crap shoot version of the game you think this should be normal
>>584008505>oh no the priest can heal like 50% of a health bar with a 2 second channel spellWhat is an interrupt?
>>584001429>"sure, tossed you leader"
>>584008635>projectingat a certain point, balance becomes homogeneity.
>>584008505Yeah anyone defending penance is pants on head retarded, but Retri aura was not that bad. I have 160sp and my retri aura before the nerf was doing 18 per hit, now it's doing 12 per hit.
>>584008385I'm also planning on 21/21/9 SL/SL, my build will be extremely similarI hope to see you tearing it up in bgs and wpvp
>>584008698>defending penanceWho fucking cares about pvp balance jfcThey should just baseline all talents for pvpHave everyone on the same skills level and baseline armor and weapon values
>>584008657An interrupt is something that has a longer CD than penance and doesn't do shit because penancing yourself has no travel time so by average human reaction speed the time you press kick penance has already ticked twice. Dipshit fuck you moron. Also not everyone has an interrupt.
Justify penance damage nerf
>>584008735No one is talking about PvP you fucking turboqueer ape. You shouldn't be able to "heal" a dungeon and the only button you press is penance. Healers should not be able to go afk for 10 seconds before lay on handsing the tank to full for 100 mana.
>>584008735soon blizztroon won't have to listen to pvpers desperately trying to secure a bag anymore and we can get back to the barely relevant minigame ghostcrawler intended.
unironically debating with retoilet monkeys in this thread who will not get past lvl15
>>584008663>You have been removed from the group
>>584008876Yes you should at level fucking 20 you absolute fucking cum guzzling moron holy fuck how is it that you are so absolutely low iq
>>584008867It's a healing spell first and foremost, it being able to do both damage and healing is why it shouldn't be able to do both very well. It's called strength and weaknesses.
>>584008867it did so since 06
if you're going to gut penance, they should at least remove it from the game and replace it with something useful, leaving it like that is fucking insulting
>>584008343IM FLYING TO MY FRIENDS AND HAVING FUN
>>584008920No, you shouldn't and you're a trash retoilet playing faggot. The game wasn't made for you, bye bye!
>Penance nerfSo who wins the tourny now, hunters?
>>584009019>no arguments>b-b-but reTOILETLmao you absolute buffoon are so buckbroken
>>584004636>BFD
>>584008876>druid casts regrowth and rejuvenation on tank>can ignore him for 15 seconds
>>584008962its weakness is that it's channeled, stationary, and easily interruptible. everything about priest was overtuned, right down to the wand timers. penance was too strong, but the way they're bandaid-fixing "too strong" with a blanket flat % nerf is fucking retarded and bad game design and it's being done for the tournament and no other reason, or it would've just been quietly adjusted between beta end and release.
>>584008962That's nonsense because priests have spells that both heal and do damage, a spell that sucks at both is pointless
>>584009073>>584009096back to retail with you
>>584009034whoever has the most effective secret tech. nobody knows exactly because all the streamers are obfuscating their strategies and consciously lying to pump as much disinfo into the conversation as possible.
>>584008962It can't do both at the same time, it's basically 2 different spells that share a cooldown
I 100% bet the penance tard who has been complaining basically for 10 hours straight (i checked the thread periodically throughout my workday) is also the AI faggot. Trannies on literal suicide watch now that they can't slap their balls and ride their lovense while healing dungeons anymore, thank you based Fatgrend.
>>584009154you keep saying that but you're the only one who has played retail in the last decade. so why do it?
>EU>RP>Alliance>Warmode ONYup, it's time to make the world a better place.
>>584009192I'm an AIchad and Penance was too strong. Still going to try a holy damage dps priest.
>>584009192>not fapping while playing wowFaggot
They need to introduce an RP-PVP server let's be honest here folks
>>584008715Hell yeah.I'm also trying to rediscover my old Destro build. It was in TBC, but I wonder if it could work in Forever, too.Killing Warriors and Rogues was ezmode because you could:>Demonic Sacrifice into Fear when they open on you>Fel Domination to Summon Succubus>Seduce into Fear>Deathcoil into FearAgainst Mages, Priests, and other Warlocks you'd pull out the Felhunter for a silence instead.Back in TBC, I'd also throw in Netherweave Nets for even more CC to buy time to cast damaging spells, but maybe grenades will do the trick in Forever.
I don't know why people are mad about penance. I dueled a gnome priest and it was still the most cancer fight I've ever played against and if he had full penance I would have thrown my keyboard at the wall. It took 7 minutes of getting mana burned, wanded, feared, disoriented (gnome), and penanced before he finally won and every time I got him to 10% health he healed 60% of his healthbar with a single penance after fearing me and then regained all his mana before I could even get back in range to hit him. They are still turbo cancer at level 30 and still an easy pick to win the tournament (especially considering people were talking about them winning when we were still at level 20 based on wand dps and mana sustain alone, because everyone literally remembers 2019 classic and good players are better than all of you literal drooling retards). Penance feels fine, still does crazy healing. Whiners are just shit!
Even if penance healing was too strong, why nerf the damage?
>>584009242>Warmode
Why do hunters have mortal strike and curse of tongues?
>>584009343i think they should remove pvp servers altogether and just have RP and non RP. Flag if you want your minigame little autists, and if it's as popular as you pretend it is, plenty of people will flag with you.
>balancing for a 1v1 situation
>>584009441one of lead devs play hunter
Why do priests have a starting talent that they can't benefit from until level 20?
>>584009406>WHY DONT HEALERS DO MORE DPS THAN DPS!?!?!?!Hybrid tax, welcome to Classic, now go back to retoilet.
>>5840017381. Kul Tirans2. Satyrs3. Everyone else
>>584002415Good thing I'm better than 95% of the people playing.
>>584009487how about just have rp server?dont rp if you dont wantno one misses your unfunny names
>>584000660rppvp server status?
>>584009517It was a lay on hands with a 12s cd that costed like 5% of your mana, that's pretty op in pve as well.
>>584009537Using penance on cooldown is still shit dps
>>584009428You know that I mean the PvP toggle.
>>584008259>>584008403>i think it can be salvaged, i have a ton of optimism, but i know what you mean.same vibe but i sat and listened to two of these wow forever podcasts and i gotta say, i'm really drinking the koolaid on this one.the dev team seems like they care a lot about it. like, they have a lot of intentionality with how they're balancing the classes and what shit they're adjusting. the class rundown especially really changed my opinion.i dunno, we'll have to see, but the frank way they talked about their thought processes was refreshing to hear.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDRcv_w85j8
>>584008259This is such a low iq take and I'm honestly embarrassed to read stuff like this. Healing/damage value of a single spell is a low hanging fruit to the level that it might as well be on the ground. It's literally a case of "this spell doesn't seem as strong as intended, so we'll increase the damage and healing by 20%", and some people treat it as an end of the world type of thing that can never be fixed. Like, who the fuck gives a shit?The actual issues lie elsewhere, and relate to the design of the classes and how they play. These are much harder to fix, and even might require the complete removal of spells which would never go well.
>>584009624As it should be you're playing a healer. Healers doing some extra dps is great because It's basically 'free' in terms of group distribution, but it should never actually be good vs the classes that are actually there to dps
The moral of the story is basically the people who play this game are the stupidest blackest gorilla niggers on earth, and the trannies who make the game should unironically not listen to them at all and just yolo it from the heart.
Im so so so glad im on EU
>>584002807ONE-HEADEDOGREWARRIOR
People are just used to playing a solved game, go look at patch notes for vanilla wow and you'll see spells getting neutered left and right.
>>584009726i don't like you
>>584009876I don't like you either, mooncricket.
>>584009871those people should just go back to playing classic thentheyre turning forever into just classic 2 without any new stuff no changes nothing
>>584009724If a healer is doing dps in a raid you have too many healers. They shouldn't really have time or the mana to be dealing damage
>>584009871>go look at patch notes for vanilla wow and you'll see spells getting neutered left and rightSorry troon, but we pretend like vanilla was only ever the last patch.
>>584009924Not how it works since a lot of raid fights don't have equally distributed damage throughout the fight, good healers just know when they can cast a few dps spells here and there.
>>584009921no. everyone needs to stay and voice their opinions. even people you disagree with. because it makes the game better on the whole.booting out the people you don't like ruins it. you need the dalits. they keep the whole system alive.
>>584009924This was always a terrible game design. Healers are not your slaves, they're playing the game too. Why shouldn't they be able to do some meager spaghetti damage and heal competently without going out of mana? You sit there with infinitely recycling rage or energy like a mongoloid pretending you're good at the game while we do something twice as hard. Fuck you, I hope you fall into a coma tomorrow and never get to play the game
>>584002807Hunter, obviously.
Nelf or Skelf?
>>584009924>>584010025same for tanking. people talk about mitigation but very rarely are you actually failing to survive the mechanics. in dungeons especially, squeezing out extra damage as a tank and ending the encounter faster can be the difference in surviving or not, because that's less overall damage taken and less party-wide mana utilization. it's not just about maximizing survivability, and for healers it not just about maximizing heal output.
>>584010028>you need to make the game for everyone so it's made for nobody
>>584008343I am actually having fun playing my rogue and shit.....decided to stay ways from youtube, I just want to game in peace and every second wow video in my algorythm is just some faggot complaining......also got my slime pet which is cool
>>584000794Noticer is /ourguy/
>>584010104nelf if you want to cuck your human husband with big green cocks, skelf if you want to be free use hole for them
>>584009871/wpsg/ was complete chaos when CoA released. 21 new classes and nobody knew which where "meta". Each thread was filled with retards asking what the best class was and nobody had an answer. These psychos where obsessed with wanting to know what the best choice was for a private server that was confirmed shutting down soon.
>class that can't decurse>warlock puts slow cast curse on me>proceeds to proc revelation and then abuse it by wanding (gets the crit, doesn't take the proc) and drain life (gets crit for every single tick, also doesn't take the proc)>then laughs>Foreverpvp in the nameLmao this entire tournament is just going to be bug abusing faggots.
>>584010207>I might be playing something sub optimal *panic attack*
>>584010151i don't do RP but i'm glad there are RP realms. I don't do PVP but i'm glad when i walk outside the city gates there are people dueling. I don't farm mats but i'm glad i can go to the AH and buy herbs and ore when i need it. i don't serially level, but i like to see low levels killing mobs and asking about dungeon invites when i fly over quest zones.
>>584010207Hate that CoA just felt like playing retail with tons of cashshop bullshit bloat.
>>584010028>because it makes the game better on the wholeit is apparent that it is not
>>584009487So kinda like Turtle
>>584010291don't know never played because don't own any skirts or thongs
>>584010058What does Rexxar look like without his batman mask?
>>584010342Your and idiot who missed on the best WoW formula because of some dated memes I bet your life is full of stupid decisions Sad!
>>584010424>best WoW formula is pay to winNobody asked for your chink opinion
>>584010374Mask?
>>584010265Ascension had always been a funslop unbalanced cashshop server but for whatever reason everyone wanted to treat it like classic+ near the end.
>>584002807two headed ogre frostfire mage or one headed ogre hunter.
just like the easiest ways to get a olympic gold medal is at a pawnshop, but nobody will ever respect you for it and deep down you know it is garbage....
>>584002807two-headed and two-cocked so I can use a nelf cocksleeve and a skelf cocksleeve at same time
>>584010583>the easiest ways to get a olympic gold medal is at a pawnshopAI says it's actually memorabilia auctions.
>>584010424Don't think I did, I played the original game on release, when every single dungeon or event or update was new content. That was the best version of the game, not your vicarious poorfag fomo zoomer fantasy of a reimagined and intentionally slowed down version of vanilla.
>>584008385Are there any other classes where this kind of retarded tri spec is worth entertaining?
Paladin shouldn't have a DPS spec at all. Paladin should have one ranged healer spec, one melee healer spec and one tank spec.
>>584010207I'm still bummed we never got to see them finish the expansion they where working on. We've never had an entire custom expansion to compare to Blizzard.
>>584010785paladin should be removed from the game and attached to your butthole human centipede style.
>>584002807One Headed Ogre... Rogue
>>584010234>Lmao this entire tournament is just going to be bug abusing faggots.And blizzard will buff their favorite streamer while nerfing everyone else
>>584009004>tent in the middle of the roadFucking savage
>>584002807two-headed and two-cocked so I can have 2 orc bucks swinging from my cocks as is PROPER GORIAN orcbreaking tradition
>>584010181The algorithm is pissing me the fuck off because every video it recommends is either a lazy recap of the most recent blue posts but presented like, "Wow Forever Devs Just Revealed Groundbreaking News!" or it's a video about "Fastest way to grind to max level" or "here are ALL the new secrets and how to get them".Fuck all of that.
>>584010956It's annoying me way more than it should as well. I hope none of that shit happens on RP.
Reminder that windsharter skelves are the most retarded form of skelf
>>584009708the low iq take is defending blizzard's actions hereyou won't even use this skill anymore your wand will do more damage and your flash heal will heal you for more, it's a totally irrelevant skillonly shill niggers defend this level of retardation
>>584011080Nobody knows what that is. We will exclude all elf faggots from groups and /spit on sight
>>584009726My Wife would never say this to me.
whats the rexxar bm build? orc?
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/how-does-elemental-shaman-look-in-wow-forever-383356You know a spec is utterly fucking fucked when wowhead has to make one of their iconic "blizzard plz fix this shit" articles.
holy vvvv!
>>584011153Survival, not bm
>>584011167i can smell the fog rolling across the murky waters from here it smells like home
>>584011080I know that skelves have different names depending on the faction but I've paid so little attention to that pointless race that I don't know which side you are even talking about.
So anyone can join the tournament or is it only for streamzors?
>>584011256everyone but only streamers are allowed to buy gold so good luck competing with them
vvvv vvvv!
If we get a wowfg guild going does anyone want to play Direct Strike (wc3, not sc2)?
i think that the wow forever team needs to separate from metzen.blue elves were a mistake. neutral race was a mistake. i don't think metzen knows how to make good shit any more, and he has been an influence in a lot of the stuff that made modern wow what it is today.
>>584011256Anyone could join but streamers are immune to bans from buying gold so they have an extreme advantage over everyone else.
>>584011256anyone could join, only good players can win, but registration is closed unless you're a big dick namefag with street cred >>584011317in reality no streamers are buying gold, their viewers are trading them bought gold, and the primary buyers by a very wide margin will be randos with delusions of beating the best players in the world, not the known players who would also win the tournament with 0 gold.
>>584011205>Survival, not bmrexxar has a pet
>>584011154They have actually done nothing but NERF elemental from the vanilla baseline. Now that's some insane shit.
>>584011167>>584011326soulless grey shit
>>584011431Yes and?
i finally was able to play when the game is night timelooks so much better in game than screenshots
>>584010207thats funny because people figured out 80% of the meta in the first 2 months
>>584011372They came to Metzen to ask for a last minute new elf that could be on both factions because Microsoft demanded it to sell the bundle. For a race they frantically stitched together only a few months before reveal it could have been a lot worse.
>>584011397hehe im totally not buying gold, this lvl 1 character just happens to be my viewer who wanted to send me 400 gold
>>584010773My memory is hazy, but I think I remember a Hemo+Preparation spec for Rogues.There was also a Shadow Priest trispec that took Improved Mana Burn from Discipline and Holy Nova from Holy.Other than that, the most famous trispec was probably the DK trispec in Wrath. iirc it was a Dual Wielding spec with Blood DK lifesteal, quick rune regen, and I think it relied a lot on proccing shadow damage from autoattacks?If I had to guess, based on the current talent trees, most classes could probably make a hybrid or trispec build work so long as you're not doing progression content or high level PvP. The one advantage of Classic/Forever having a bunch of piddly little +5% damage talents instead of big +30% damage talents is the talent builds are much more forgiving.
>>584011317>>584011393>>584011397but how do the brackets even work, is there a chance a streamer can get knocked out round 1 to anyone?
>>584011093Still has better hpm and hpct than flash heal on top of the first tick hitting you instantly and the second one hitting before flash heal would. Stop crying about every nerf your class receives in beta. It's embarrassing especially when everyone knew how powerful the spell was.
Do you just never get the currency to drop for these new profession vendors or what? Is it just turned off for beta?
>>584011483it really smells like something pushed down from corporate. "include some sort of microtransaction content so we can monetize this in the future. new classes or new races."
>>584011441Even their 1 new spell, Lava Burst, is a nerfed version of all other Lava Bursts. This is the only iteration of the spell to not 100% crit on flame shock.
>>584011468????
>>584011485yes, literally, you delusional sad little animal. none of them need to risk anything and buy gold. their viewer slaves will do it for them, the same way they send them a thousand dollars sometimes, when they're already millionaires. >>584011494there's a chance, because mirror matchups are cancer. and that's all anyone has said, it's mirror matchups to get to the elimination bracket.
>>584000794How does one get a face like that, didnt his parents feed him during his youth? WHAT THE ACTUAL KANKERFUCK you cannot look like that and put yourself on the internet
>>584011523You get the currency via waylaid supplies, have you been getting those? From 1-20 I got like 3.
>>584011523You get "waylaid crates" as random drops, or buy them from the AH. You turn these in to the NPC and get the currency.
>>584010773
>>584011483aggrend said on one of the podcasts sky elves were one of the first things they started working on in development.
>>584011628I accidentally picked the wrong balance tier 1 talent because I made it in 5 seconds. Was supposed to be imp wrath. Whoops.
my gf won't stop sending me malfoid stuff
>>584011571The problem shamans have is the players don't cry enough, like warriors, paladins, druids and mages do. That's why the class is always shit.
>>584011647He blatantly fucking lied to save face. They didn't even have SD models ready for beta despite them just being blood elves. The retail team was also obviously tasked with making their starting zone so they could have it ready for blizzcon. Everything about them is rushed.
>>584011153>>584011205>>584011431Rexxar is famously a Beast Master. That's literally his title. He summons many beasts. He doesn't deploy traps or do anything else Survival hunters do.This is Blizzard's main failure with Hunter specs. BM ALWAYS should've been the melee hunter spec. Marksmanship should've been the sniper spec, and Survival should've been the mid-range skirmishing spec with lots of mobility.See also: Guild Wars 2 Rangers. Longbow Rangers are snipers. Shortbow Rangers are skirmishers.
>>584011619>>584011620I must be unlucky because I haven't seen a single one yet.
>>584011764>Everything about them is rushed.what about the cinematic then
>>584011764>They didn't even have SD models ready for beta despite them just being blood elvesThere originally were not even going to be SD models.
>>584011764>They didn't even have SD models ready for betaYou can't really blame them for not thinking of something so ridiculous. To any normal person it doesn't make sense that someone would want their videogame to look worse than it needs to.
I haven't played WoW in ages, where do I find the nude mod that doesn't look like shit?
>>584011929Retard go wank off
>>584011764he's probably not lying, he's probably technically telling the truth. they probably wrote "new race-elf" on a white board a year ago, and that alone means he's technically not lying. whatever seems rushed about them is just the last minute blue rebrand, which i for one am thankful for because high elves would've been 10 times more popular and a cancer to deal with.
>>584011807a blue elf shows up for 2 seconds at the end and was likely morphed together using an Overwatch model like they do for most cinematics now.
Can you war stomp in bear form?
>>584011895the "HD" models look worse in every way.
>>584011831That doesn't change the fact that their SD models where made 20 years ago with blood elves yet they couldn't even have those ready in time for beta.
>>584011950yes you can pretty much do anything in form noweat, drink, bandage, consume pots, etc
>>584012008To a contrarian such as yourself, sure. But the vast majority of people will not see better graphics and think "man I wish this would look worse"
>>584012015the elves were obviously made to attract retail players. there was no reason to make SD models until spergs who unironically want to play shiny new elf race invented a new thing to be upset about.
>>584011929micro dick beaner back in the househow's it going, faggotget that attention, baby dick spicwhat part of the website did they have you shitting up
>>584012068you're the contrarian here, i hope you know that.
>>584003407Nothing will.If anybody says they managed it, they either lying or about to an hero.
>>584011647>started working onYeah and I started working on my speech skills at age 0, it didn't really go anywhere for the first year tho
they should make a fat slob race with a fart racial ability
>>584012092bro just wants some sexy models and asks if anyone knows how and you clown on him. bro not cool bro
I want to enjoy the game, do dungeons and raid, as well as do (BG) pvp. I also want to skip all the streamer cancer retards. Will rolling on a RP serverset be a good idea in my case?
>>584011504no one is ever going to use itit's not even my class, but it's a really bad sign that they gut a skill like thisthe reddit spacing is totally unnecessary shill faggot
>>584012174
ritual posts don't make the game less shit, wish they would though
>>584010785If you wanna talk about what Paladins should and shouldn't be, they shouldn't be an inidividual class at all to begin with. Take Holydin and weave that into Discpriest, make Discpreist a melee healer/off tank.Take Protadin and merge with Protwarrior and focus more on the "Believe in yourself it gives you superpowers!" stuff in the Warcraft lore this time around.
>>584012174Literally ogres.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1PHAjW3ZkA
There are no good wow streamers at this time slot.
>>584012092What?
>>584012339>there are no good wow streamerscorrect
>>584012174me too. i need a wide race. a very wide race to match my american racial soul>>584012221yes, it looks like it will be. you're either playing with the olympus legion on pve or a bunch of retarded tryhard washed up ugly old men on pvp. for now rp looks like the best choice, which is really bad for rpers, because no one wants any part of that gay rp shit.
i was set on warlock but im thinking to go mage now
>>584012174Dwarf druid and make bear form extra fat
>I have to defend every shit decision blizzard makes that kills the fun, no negativity in the dojo, only toxic positivity, brb going to reddit to make le epic snark post
>>584012104lol sure thing. give a year or two and they'll stop making SD models because no one will use that shit anyway.
>I have to pretend every decision makes has ruined the game, I have to stop you from being happy at all costs, brb got banned again going to make another burner
>I have to hate every decision blizzard makes that's good for the game, no fun allowed, only bitter, jaded boomer takes, brb going to reddit to make le epic snark post
moonqueen status?
They should add extra talent points you can gain after hitting level 60 and add a new tier or two into the talent trees
uhoh someone got triggered and had to le epic mamay copy strat, cause brown souled subhumans can't create anything on their own, TRAGIC
>muh retail Classic boomers overwhelmingly picked belves upon release
how is paladin to play mechanically?i'm worried it's too boring.
>>584009575Dead in the water, they fear our power
>>584008635This is retail sodomy, where nothing is allowed to shine and be fun and everything is autistically balanced to be as bland as possible.
>>584012939they didn't know any better back then.
>>584013002Its still really boring. Thats just how classic paladin has always been and theyre not gonna completely change it
I've officially chosen mage over warlock, I am finally at peace.
>>584013078And they still don't
taking the war out of warcraftso we can pander to the mentally ill
>>584013002Paladin is a class for retarded people. If you're not retarded or if you don't want something to play on a second monitor you won't enjoy it.
>>584002807two headed ogre kino so i can fully immerse myself in RP as a schizophrenic (which, IRL, i am)
>>584013143Bad choice, but whatever makes you cope at night.
>>584013143Good choice. Endless buffs await you.
>>584013143luckily you just make water rather than summon
Do warlocks have a lot of buttons to press? I want to play with a controller but I'm worried they'll be too hard to pilot. Rogue just presses two or three buttons most of the time so it should work but I'd rather try warlock.
>>584013253I played a lock on anniversary, and the more I think about it I dont want that same experience again
>>584012082>the elves were obviously made to attract chinese playersftfy
So what role will be more scarce, tank or healer?
>>584013404tank at max lvlalways
>>584013329lmaowarlocks have like 6 button rotations at most. affliction locks literally just drop like 6 dots on something, 4 of which are instant, 1 of which is immolate, and 1 of which is a channel, and wait for the thing to die
>>584013404It's always healer.
>>584013404Tank because people are afraid of taking responsibility
what the fuck is going on behind thralls house
>>584013435>>584013450
>>584013143>she thinks she will be the ONE mage 20 man raids bring for arcane intellect
>>584013404You only need 1-2, you need many healers. You don't need tanks in pvp.Healer>tank>shit>>>>>>>>>dps
>>584013326I don't mind the shard/summon stuff, mage is infinitely easier>>584013329If you want to pvp and use all your abilities and micro your pet correctly, yes
>>584013404Tank for dungeonsHealer for raidsShaman anything for alliance
>>584013475These niggas are bound to become peons with retard names like that
Every single time I've played this garbage game the scarcity were tanks. And no one wanted to play it because it was scary. No idea what you guys are talking about. Healers we had several people Respec into after pressure
>>584011727Means she wants to peg you
>>584013493>pveSilence, tranny
>>584013575Sensible, thanks!
>>584013329They arguably have the most buttons to press in any given situation.
>>584013436>rotations = buttons to pressretail minmaxing troons really are retarded. If you're not a faggot you'll press all of your pet summons including their abilities, stones, actual summon, buffs and pvp abilities. Warlock has a lot of buttons to press and I wouldn't want to try it on controller (or any class)
how am I going to get a pvp 2hanger on my woyer when faggot tranadins and retard shamans are going to be needing them?
>>584013752Play Fury armsbitch
>he’s playing alliance shaman because it’s the only way hes getting into a raid
>>584011727Scared, Potter?
>>584013996Alliance is seriously gonna have so many shitter shamans who only rolled the class because they know it's needed.
>>584013996for the first few months (the only time normal people play) pug raids and groups will be going 24/7. They're also going to be so fucking easy. Everyone will get groups
>>584009726Trvth
>>584013996what's the plan to clear the content with only shamans? feels like a waste of most loot and like a retarded raid comp? are you unwell?
trannys killed the game
>>584013404Tanks will be the most scarce thing in the game while leveling and getting pre-raid bis. It won't even be comparable. Being a tank unfortunately is a chore because the average dps player is a complete fucking idiot and makes group content unfun for them.>body pulling>intentionally pulling extra>attacking the wrong target>attacking mid pull before threat is established>never performing any of the necessary mechanics>never using any utility at all to assist the other party members Dps players ultimately ruin the experience of the game. Tanks feel like baby sitters. This is why they have complete control over who ultimately gets geared and who doesn't. I will without a doubt be tanking to get gear, making my own parties, excluding classes that want my stuff, and will kick any dps that doesn't follow instructions. Dungeons don't need 5 people. It'll be faster to play with 4 that listen, than have 5 with 1 being a retarded tranny faggot.Once the players like me finish their one quest run, and pre-raid bis 1-60, you're going to be waiting hours to to find a tank.
I literally had 0 knowledge about the game and everyone took me in every raid in wow classic and tbc further this year, what are you talking about? I was playing mage
What's the easiest dps spec to play?
>>584014265Hot take: idiots in your party make tanking more fun. Any monkey can tank one mob at a time, but successfully getting a group full of bumbling buffoons through a dungeon is a test of skill.
>>584014087everyone said that when classic first came out, "its all so easy, you can just pug it all and get epics" then the playerbase immediately turned it into an elitist circlejerk of loot councils and mandatory minmax faggotry, everything reserved, pre raid bis inspections, etc.Forever raids could all be patchwerk fights clearable in green questing gear, it is still going to be gatekept by tryhards reserving your sword
>>584014265But body pulling shows how awesome I am
>>584014265None of this matters if you're a good tank. I've never had issues speedrunning through dungeons with randoms as tank.
>>584014385Ret paladin, by far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kslJtHL89G4
Will putting 5 points in the Talented legacy perk retroactively give my character 5 talent points?
>>584014464>>584014395Tell me you only do +0 keys, without telling me you only do +0 keys
>>584014543yea
Hot take: all Forever raids should be puggable and needing a guild to run it should not be mandatory.
>>584014569wrong thread
>>584014438Just join a guild, faggot. I was with the same guild from 2019 launch up until mop. Played with people I liked. Got full bis every single phase. It's as easy as that. If you insist on pugging you deserve the pug experience.
>>584014569>retoilet
>>584014605they will be puggable, just like naxx in classic 2019.
>>584014385Ret paladin>press seal>judgement>press other seal>auto attack>press other seal>press holy strike>press seal>auto attack>press seal>auto attack>press seal>judgement>auto attack
>>584003893People heavily forget blizzard doesn't think reactive damage should be good.It is always dogshit, even in retail where you have stronger, heavily scaling, reactive damage and the ability to pull "endless mobs" said reactive damage is worse than just clicking your spells.The real issue people aren't ready to discuss is that prot paladin needs at least 1 or 2 more buttons.
>>584014265As a tank main who has 0 interest in playing dps warrior I rarely have trouble when it comes to dungeon groups. Sure dps often play like idiots and make my life harder than it has to be but retards who actually wipe the run are rare and typically people just follow me.The biggest problem is that while we live in luxury 1-60, after that it's just a big "fuck you" because either I have to invest much more time than I want, lead raids myself or switch to dps and be a backup tank.
>>584014624>Forever REFUNDEDIt's over.
>>584014728>>584014385y-you just wait until we get divine stormj-just wait
>>584014438Strange because for the first few months of classic I was doing pug raids and 5 mans just fine. Obviously I quit shortly after because raid logging is retarded
How do I sign up for the pvp tournament? I want a chance at that 100k cash prize!
don't the devs run fucking simulations?i.e. how much DPS can each class do in same ilvl gearhow much burst can they do on averagehow quick to OOM in various scenariosthen just tweak base damage and/or scaling such that they are +/- 10% of one another? balance is so insanely off like disparities of 100%+ what are they even doing?
>>584014594Damn I could've been juiced for a couple of days now. Thanks
>>584014974>>584014728It feels like paladin does get a bunch of abilities to use like any other class but all its abilities are used in oh shit situations or helping teammates so ironically if you're autoattacking safely you're playing correctly...
>>584015146All it takes to balance the game is to set bots of each dps spec in BiS gear do the the ideal rotation and adjust the % of spells live. Should take an evening or two to balance the game.But don't forget that you're dealing with tards, so that's asking too much.
>want to tank>will likely have to switch to dps for raids>ret paladin is boring>cat form is just a shitty rogue>balance is weak as fuck>fury is the most fun and the most competitive I'm going to be forced to play warrior again, aren't I?
>>584015146sorry chud, theorycrafting is pretty toxic, misogynistic and transphobicWe go by the vibes and gut feelings of streamers nowadays
>>584014918Tank is the only role in the game that gets completely shafted at level 60. You basically have to make your own raids if you want to main tank anything at 60. Your best bet is to be an off-tank and even then those spots are covered. The reality is you're going to be brownie/pinkie dps #45 sitting on the bench.
>>584010207CoA AKA Klu Kux KOA also killed 90% of tranny pedo freaks.
>>584015146they didnt expect to have to balance the game around a lvl 30 streamer tournament
>>584015497all they needed to do was say lvl 30 wont be balanced but if you wanna run your meme tourney anyway go ahead
>>584015146Erm, that's nazi chuddy antisemitic transphobic and anti-shitter so erm, no??We go on vibes and make sure they are good and foreverial and whatever aggrend santicifies as the holy pilars of wow forever.Now? That means level 30 KINO TOURNEEEY!!Tomorrw? Who knows! That's the good thing of forever, it changes every day!
>>584013575this is the correct answer
>>584014265Trvth svastiKKKa NVKE
>>584012258now I'm hungry too
>>584014395having 3 idiots taking threat means more heals means more downtime between pulls either drinking or rezzingI do agree that "perfect runs" eventually get boring and chaos is fun but
>>584015436>>584014918M+ fixes this but this is a discussion we aren't ready to have just yet.>>584014569The hardest troonilla dungeon is equivalent of Mythic 5 or so without a timer.
Ok boys it looks like we got the topic to be enraged about for the week: Level 30 duel tournament and the supposed changes due to thatKeep it up until thursday when we'll figure out the next topic. Please note that you shouldn't be angry about these topics anymore:>skelves>banning people for names>streamers and rmt>dungeon xp
Choose carefully anon. You'll be stuck with that choice forever.
>>584015842I chose shockadin which is the correct spec according Aggrend. And I know better than to take or play the game in a way daddy aggrend doesn't personally approve of.
>>584015436At least pinkie has the option to go healer. Browns are just straight fucked.
>>584015842>Arcane uses to be the weakest mage spec now its the strongest It just proves that shit can change at any moment so just play what you like
>>584015832This saars, these topics are good and we like them now.
>>584015436That can be fixed by forcing more tanks in raids
I will NOT leave berserker stance and I WILL spam execute whenever it is available.
>>584015832shills are almost getting good its scary, just need to get rid of the reddit spacing and you're there
>>584015965It's okay tho, tanking is a hecking hybrid role with as much value as healing in pve and pvp and you are delusional nazi chud brown wowyer booster iranian ape if you ever think otherwise.in fact, tanking is in such demand in the leveling journey that if we added shaman, rogue or warlock tank, those classes would need to take a 25% damage nerf MINIMUM!
I main arcane mage
>>584015842Warrior will still be OP and the most played class
>>584016025>Just re-design the raids to have more tanks!1Literally never happened and never will. Nigzard can't design encounters for more than 2 tanks and nobody likes 2+ tank encounters.Tanks are just worse healers and you want to have as few of them as possible, in a perfect world you only have one.
I'm obese and have aspergers
>>584016205You're perfect for wowfg, welcome!
>>584015842are these specs listed somewhere? wondering the 18/33 is in marksman
>>584016205Human Paladin main?
>>584015832>>skelvesAs long as they don't have OP racials nobody cares>>banning people for namesIt was obvious Nate Higgers was going to get banned>>streamers and rmtOnly zoomers are mad at streamers and blizzard did ban gold buyers/sellers>>dungeon xpAnyone crying about this after the changes is a faggot
New travel routes in forever
>>584015842Im going female dwarf elemental shaman and have lot of fun
>>584016205Welcome!
>>584016310Yes saar very good saar you keep up very well, you will get paid in many patties of holy cow dung
>>584015842>shockadin>half way into holy treeBut guys, you said healers shouldn't do dps? Smite and penance buffs when?
>>584016382Did Horde get any new one? Beside blueberry elfs.
>>584015814>The hardest troonilla dungeon is equivalent of Mythic 5 or so without a timer.A normal retail dungeon is harder than any nilla dungeon.
>+1 def pants drop>"well better than nothing i guess">it's literally not better than nothing
>>584016205Same
>>584016446Smite and penance aren't the vision and expected and correct way to play.SORRY!! This is the sacred vision, of the holy god Aggrend The Sanctifier!It's a pillar that Shockadin must be good, so it must!
>>584016310>zoomers>mad at streamersyou seem confused
>>584016471sorry bro but aggrend plays female human ret paladin
as a dps warriorima double dip in arms AND fury
>>584016471The bottom one in that image is neutral so technically yes
>>584015842I'm going to pick my class according to what class fantasy appeals to me the most :)
>>584016471At least not shown in the video
>>584016471Hahahah no. You get undead paladins and you'll be happy, lil gup.
>>584016705go away asmongoloid
>>584016705Dwarf anything
>>584016705shadow priest
>>584016757forgot to mention that I hate jews too
>>584016757Asmon doesn't hate trans tho
>>584016805Human male warrior
>>584016705Human, male warrior tends to be the incel pick.
>>584016821he does>>584016805human bare bones boring race
>>584016705Paladin or Warrior
>>584016821everyone hates them
>>584012258Reminds me of the time I was trying an RP server out and left my character afk in the Razor Hill inn.Came back to a chat log in which two trolls were ERPing.The female troll put a cock ring on the male, cut his dick off to use as a dildo, and then he regenerated a new dick and double penetrated her.I deleted the character and gave up on RPing.
Fell for it again award
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mG_GFTXQgoThese are the people advocating against dungeon xp nerfs
>>584017079>random retardOk
>>584017163>marcelian>randomYou are retarded
>>584016705Human Hunter, pet named "Foid"
>>584016279its from mythicsim i think, you can see the specs
>>584017187sorry I don't know your retarded ecelebs, faggot
I want to try protection warrior. I leveled a feral druid before and found tanking fun. I'm a little worried that people are saying you have to play a lot in the end game. I like to play more at my pace, I used to raid consistently for Wrath classic and while it was fun I don't want that kind of commitment. My other class was warlock, is that the safer pick?
>>584017302Retailbabi
>>584017061>soft resetits over
>>584017243Zug zug
>>584017334I am not watching your gay ass eceleb no matter version of the game they play, faggot
>>584017243noooo i only got the main-hand glaive you cant leave me
>>584017414You are still retarded
>>584017451takes one to know one
>Anniversary: 96k>Mop: 19k>Era: 16kEra will have more pop than mop next week. Grim.
>snake form requires full fang set to activate>doesn't work with transmogcan they just make this a cosmetic toggle bruh
>>584016886He doesn't as long as they don't force their shit on others and especially kids>>584016951See above most view it the same way. Of course another requirement is that they actually put in effort to appear like the gender they want to be
I have seen the light, after 20 years of Horde I yield to the Alliance Night elf superiority!
>>584017632POV: green
>>584017587wod classic is coming just wait for blizzcon
trollwarriorbig axe or swordarms/fury double dippingidgaf about tanking, nor raiding, nor being top dpsi immerse myself into the worldmon
>6 hours threadis the hype over...?
>>584017632agp coded
>>584017051But hecking rp is pedo kino wholesomerino chillerino
>>584017632after 20 years of Alliance, Im going Orc to rape this Nelf
WE want PLAYABLE ILLIDARI FEL ORCS in forever
Bring back dungeon finder
>>584017061>Warn you it was going to be shitctified gear>It was:O
>>584017961Bring back dungeon finder AND bring back personal loot
>>584017956Just give playable race more customization options. Red orcs, dark iron dwarves and such
>>584017852Nah those are these "people" >>584017660>>584017924Or cuckolds. Your pick
>>584017824The schizo posters are all from the US so they are currently sleeping
>>584017587B-but! The pedo loonies from 4chan said that mop was hecking epic and good and cool and the bestest ever!!Could they be they just where mentally ill porn addicted contrarian faggots jerking off to panda models???it's almost as if the pedo loon 4channers are always wrong.
>>584018001>someone else asking for personal loot too
>>584017061As long as they also give us other ways to get better gear than before it's alright. I just don't want to be forced to raid
>>584016694I will! Thanks.
>>584011028Can you recommend some actual good videos ?
To be honest, dungeons should have personal loot
>>584018092Raid is a pillar of wow forever, you will have to raid if you want to get gear or progress after reaching 60.Sorry, not sorry, get fucked retarded nigger you are here to play in the way aggrend wants and has personally approved of.
there is kirkuenly ZERO reason for forever to not have AOE looting, I mean like genuinely who does this hurt that it's not in at launch
>>584017587they did mop dirty
>Rogues poisions have a chance to proc of the enemy attacksThey used so much AI with this trash game, from making it turn old vanilla quest items into greens by accident and now vibe coding combat mechanics.
>>584018176>Raid is a pillar of wow forever, you will have to raid if you want to get gear or progress after reaching 60.Which it shouldnt
>>584011028What the fuck else would you make videos about with wow? The game is boring as fuck to watch
>>584017587I think mop remix killed any desire for most people to do mop classic, which is a real shame because I genuinely like mop but things definitely feel dead there, making gold is really difficult
>>584018272This game isn't for you, retoilet is too door downs, you'll know it by the matching stench of SHIT you have, iranian indian booster wowyer faggot.
>>584018334Its for me but not for you, era is right down that way, its literally there for you to enjoy with 0 changes
>>584013492It's tank, It's literally always tank. There are simply less tank specs in the game compared to healers and It's much easier getting gear for healing, on top of the fact that literally no one plays fucking druid so the only choice is really pala/warrior unless warlock can somehow also manage to tank 5mans.
What's with the seething hate for mage in the playerbase? Feels like everyone has a bone to pick with the class. Can't be because it was OP in classic because Warrior was definitely more OP. What's going on?
>>584015842What do numbers on the right mean?
>>584018380They should make disc priests into a tank spec
>>584018090Not only do people here hate it for some reason, reddit hates it too. Really says a lot about anons these days huh
>>584018298idk what remix is, but mop had over 200k the first weeks of msv. the interest was there, blizz just abandoned the game after terrace
>>584018078>B-but! The pedo loonies from 4chan said that mop was hecking epic and good and cool and the bestest ever!!Class design was 10/10Raids were 10/10I just couldn't be fucked with all the daily shit.
>>584018361yeah this isn't classic if people want the exact game from 20 years ago just go back to classic
>>584018243>making it turn old vanilla quest items into greens by accident/vg/ and reddit were DEMANDING they make all the gear shit because apparantly the only acceptable way to get gear in classic is to buy it from the AH.
>>584018625MoP: Forever is coming winter 2027, trust the plan
>>584018706ExactlyForever is supposed to be classic but with qol, looking better, having better items and being less of a hassle in generalBut people just want to turn it into classic and i hate that
>>584017243WotLK will bring players back for that sweet sweet wow token
>>584018743Noooooooo we wanted classic+, not heckin' CHANGES!!!!
>>584018489>penance deals high threat>the talent for reducing threat is changed to increased threat>add a taunt spellRanged tank
>>584018846?
>>584018904You heard me, #nochanges classic+
OH NO NO NONO SHOES? YOUR RESPONSE?
>>584019242Good. I want more unique faction exclusive shit instead of endless homogenization
>>584019242fatgrend doesn't even try to hide his favouritism
I'm disgusted by the fact seemingly majority of Forever players will be retail implants who are hostile to culture vanilla was built in. But it's ok cause it will only fuel my hatred which I will channel into my open world pvp hunter.Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>584018361>>584018706Sorry, Raiding a pillar.You will play the game in the way aggrend wants you to, that simple!!Sorry Iranian wowyer booster nigger apes, but you lost and that's all there is to it!!
>>584018632Got it!Class was 0/10, Raid was 0/10, but you gooned to the female models because you are a porn sick individual
Why are the americans calling boosters iranian now? Is this conditioning to justify their jewish wars?
>>584019323faction exclusive stuff is cool, but why has it been 90% Alliance so far?
>>584019242horde gets an OP 2h sword
>>584019578t. Iranian booster tranny freak You lost, no gdkp faggot shit, no aoe boosting, no dungeon cleave, no faggot m+ boosting or similar sissy shit.You quest.Then. You. RAID.
>>584019591because alliance is the good (white) faction
>>584019328Classicfags acting like arbiters of what is and isn't a version of the game they didn't originally play is always funny
>>584019578>Why are the americans calling boosters iranian now?That's been a thing for years. It is at least to some degree grounded in reality. Most GDKP leaders were from 3rd world countries, because to them you could make a pretty good living running GDKPs and selling gold.
>>584018092ur dumb. if you dont want to raid then dont raid. dont let the game dictate your experience.wow endgame is world pvp while leveling
>>584019328You're delusional if you think any 'retailfag' is making it past 15. The game is still at It's core vanilla, there's no real reason why retail players who didn't like classic would like this.
>yeah bro HD models look soooo bad what were they thinking??
>>584019675Yeah but its literally chinks and SEA monkeys who do that shit. They even have chinese character names openlyIranians? Iranians have 0 fucking presence on the internet. Calling the gold sellers iranian because your jewish overlords forced you into a war against them is some weird shit. People trying to normalize iranian hate like some psyop
>>584019669>game made by white men for white men>the original game now being remade by a team led by old women which hate white menwhich side are you on?
>>584019776>The game is still at It's core vanilla
>>584019840Nah man, I'm an HD model enjoyer, but the human models are fucked.
>>584019980You're free to make an argument.
>U.S peak hours>trade chat turns to shitYep
>>584019776>The game is still at It's core vanilla>retail ui>retail transmog>retail races>retail balancing>retail itemization>retail quests>retail graphics>retail gear progression
'ate disney elves'ate blizz mods'ate streamers'ate rmt'ate questssimple as
>>584019907>People trying to normalize iranian hate like some psyopOh yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. I never did GDKPs myself, but afaik there were actually quite a few Iranian GDKP leaders at least on EU. But I think most of them were from the Balkans.
>>584020139Again, you're free to make an argument that isn't just slapping 'retail' to whatever you think you dislike without really having any idea what it means since you have never played an expansion past wrath or in some cases vanilla.
>>584019840Now post hogger..do it you fuck! DO IT!
>>584020048>are fuckedYou mean extremely fuckable? That looks great
>>584019840whoever designed "HD" female humans must have been a big dreamworks fan
>>584019840>>584020048>>584020335When did human females make a comeback?
>>584000985Ele shaman is BIG chain lightning. If anything the capstone should be something that overcharges chain lightning. Wind buffet that puts a debuff on target that makes them take the full powered chain lightning, where it won't chain.
the more i see of Forever the more i want to go back to era
>>5840201319am on a Saturday are not peak hours in the US.
>>584020549What killed the hype?
>>584020549no one's stopping you
>>584020373Californian art schools only teach the disney artstyle so all their students can only produce disney shit
>>584020549please do and stop posting in the general as well if you can
>>584020048WoD is older from now, than Vanilla was to WoD.
>>584020461>When did human females make a comeback?They didn't. They were replaced in TBC.
>>584020616unironically I get way more dreamworks vibes from the animations and facial expressions rather than disneywhich is even worse because dreamworks is basically the slop studio of the animation world
>>584020661No eredar draenei in Forever, only Broken.
>>584020690It's all the same shit
>>584020742>Blizzard hates money, actually
>>584020647looks like were stuck together. No era threads thanks to Foreverhype
>>584000985Hybrid Tax bullshit.They can't get out of the primitive, stupid, backwards trifecta design philosophy where every spec has some arbitrary amount of total damage+tankiness+healing and increasing any one of those requires you to reduce one or both of the others.If a mage has 100 of these made-up points in damage, 0 in healing, and 0 in tankiness, then an ele shaman with a 30 in healing can only ever have a 70 in damage. But they wear mail, so they also have like a 20 in tankiness, so now they get to have a 50 in damage to "make up for it".
>>584019907people have been talking about iranians selling gold and farming hyperspawns since 2021 at leastkys or go back home leave france alone
>>584020829There were barely any wowgc threads before forever as well
>>584020079>transmog>autoshot firing in between cast shots>"there always should be a button to push" design philosophy having high priority in class balancingNone of these would appear in a version of wow which is, at its core, vanilla.
I've got a character and picked up the engineering and enchanting professions at an early level. Can I make this work?
>>584020989not without mining you wont.
What the fuck are hyperspawns and why do they exist?
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/new-paladin-exclusive-cloak-currently-alliance-only-383286Alliance favoritism continues
>>584020920I guess every ranged dps and warriors did not exist in vanilla, huh... Removing certain mechanics like seal twisting or auto shot weaving is bad but It's like there are that wide spread in vanilla too. Transmog is not part of gameplay, if anything It's just another 'horizontal' type progression mill to run on, which was also not part of vanilla but everyone agrees it should have been, especially when we know they're never raising the lvl cap.
>>584020849Hybrid is based on if the character could respec into an entirely different and more desired role and the utility. Everything below rogue should get extra utility to make up for however below rogue they are. And they said -5%. I cant believe people are so buck broken over 5% dps. I expected -15% or even -20%.
>>584021184>a garbage leveling cloak is alliance onlyOh no! Anyway
once legion classic releases forever will be doomedly. bigly large doebeit kupo
>>584020890well they have to give us fresh servers for that to happen. They wont for at least a year of Forever maybe even more.
>>584020989>2026 >asking such a retarded questionhow have you never played wow before
>>584016705Male Nelf Druid
>>584019242>the purenot for long
>>584021189>transmog was also not part of vanilla but everyone agrees it should have been
>>584021274>let's split the already not that big classic populace over even more serversWhat's the point? You guys couldn't even wait for tbc to be finished before wanting more servers.
>>584021257>I cant believe people are so buck broken over 5% dps>implying the difference is 5% right now
>>584021262The game is ruined as soon as flying mounts exist.
having loads of servers just ruins everything in the long run2019 niller proves thistbc classic proofested thiswotlk proofings dat
>>584021184>it's some mid 30's cloak you'll replace in a couple daysmuh heckin favoritism!
>>584021343If you were able to read you would know that I meant horizontal progression as a whole is something people always wanted in wow, including vanilla players. But it never really existed in wow.
>>584021462Definitely. "My server is dying" is a huge reason why people quit
I hope they actually add new content at a good pace, my biggest problem with wow has always been that it takes like 6 months for anything new to be added
turtlechads are laughing at us again
>>584021602
Why is there no warbands in forever? It's one of those things that's objectively good for the game so should be a no brainer. Things like mounts and transmogs should be account-wide. Also, reducing the loot / mount cast-time to 1.5 seconds would go a long way to making the game playable.
>>584021602Turtlefags either roped or took the forever pill.How is Shen...I mean Torta's next scam "Moonwhisper Games" coming along?
>>584021462That's because Blizzard didn't intervene at all. They just made servers and left them. No faction balance, no merges, just the eventual cluster(fuck) bullshit.
>>584019840Female humans were literally the one improvement out for like 24 models they "upgraded" though.
>>584021682Uhm no. Turtle chads are playing Octo and waiting for Pochie Reborn
>>584021783Fell for it again award.
>>584019840what do the angry eyes look like in hd
>>584021703they gave free transfers.
>>584021739Nah, dwarfs are better too, gnomes for the most part as well
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>>584021946bot
>>584021462>get to level 40 in 2019 classic>take a break because my server is not looking very healthy>come back after 3 months, unsurprisingly server is fucking deadyepI'm glad there's only 1 pvp server so fags can't run this time
>>584021872that makes things worse.
>>584022048Oh no Kat is here
>>584022060i came back to my pvp server and it was almost 100% horde (i was alliance)
Why can't they just make the quest NPC client side like XIV? Why do I have to outclick other players just to turn in my shit?
>>584022060>can't run this timethey always run to PVE if no other option, ALWAYS
>>584022265they are killable
>>584022265get an addon that turns in and accepts quests instantly when you right click
>>584022347cant wait to make EU PVP unplayable for alliance
>>584013329If we are being real you can just spam shadow bolt...Or with the new talents spam Searing Pain and then Soul Fire on procs. Everything else is unnecessary tiny dps increases only sweats care about
>>584021396It's their target. If their TARGET was -20%, I would understand the hybrid frustration. But 5% is not a big deal.
>>584022628this kind of bad attitude towards excellence must be purged from the west. we must encourage the sweats to reach new peaks while pissing on fags like this cunt who would rather just be a girl, lie on their back and starfish through life with zero effort.
>>584020989if you go full reatard you can make it, you could farm ore by killing mobs, craft rifels and disenchant them, but that would take several months of game time I guess......
>>584022628i will sweat and clear the raid in 30 minutes every week with my sweat guild. during the rest of my time i will be farming alliance gamerdads
which streamer is /wowfg/ approved?
>>584021783May Blizzard DMCA and RICO these piles of shit
>>584022935Soda because he bagged Vei
>>584022935Mikamoonlightvr
Can druids actually kill people in PVP or are they just designed to run away and tickle things to death?
>>584022935our little man payo ofc
>>584022935Jokerd, the OG world first lvl 60 in classic WoW
>>584022369Might have to do that but some quests where you need to escort the NPC if you fuck it up then that fucks it up for everyone.
>>584022935payo ppc
>>584022935https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnhTAZ5TJE8
>>584022935Asmon and The Noticer
As someone who has played WoW on and off for 20 years—exclusively maining an Enhancement Shaman—i would like to share my opinions if you please. The very core problem that sucks out off all fun for all 3 specs seems to be adressed. “Dreadful mana problem.” New Ghost Wolf, totem recall and, although adding casting time is weird, placing 4 totems are also very appreciated. Talent rework is a giant step in the right direction.But,Unfortunately, after you wake up from the initial honeymoon period, you realize that unloved, neglected child trauma still lingers after all these years and even transcends into a new game. Sweet irony, shaman trauma 'forever'. It seems that the problems deeply entrenched in the class are either neglected or not even acknowledged.Restoration: Very Good.The big brother of all three specs. The favorite child. Getting all the love from the family—always wanted, always appreciated, always supported. It's nice to see that hasn't changed a bit.Elemental: Dead before even born.The introvert child sits on the bench forever. The talents in the tree are okay—there is no talent that makes you feel out of place. Traditionally a ranged damage dealer harnessing the power of the elements. Is this really the case? Or does playing as intended just punish you more? (Assuming current scaling problems will be solved; otherwise, there's no point discussing it anymore.)Enhancement: Will die after initial hype gone. (I know it is all sunshine and rainbows at level 30)Lone child who try to find his way. One shot PVP WF clips is the worst thing happened to a spec in the entire wow history. It shadowed all underlying problems, masked childhood traumas and made devs completely ignore PVE part. Sadly a gimmick become the real identity of the class.What is enhancement shaman? A WF slot machine. “Meme” spec. Casino class.
>>584022935The GOAT: Kungen
>>584022935All streamers are cancer faggots
>>584023018If you have to ask, play another class.
oh great the tranny-obsessed spammer is back
>>584022502it just ends up unplayable for you in the end because with 99:1 horde/alli population you won't have anyone to queue agains't in BGs or complete seasonal objects for legacy points, unless of course all the horde collectively whines and begs to include them in pve server bracket for instanced pvp
>>584023018Druid is the best pvp healer since you just throw hots and run away from danger while /laugh and /spit on alliancefags who are getting slaughtered by your hordebros
>>584023296causing half the pvp server to transfer off or quit playing is hilarious on a megaserver
>>584023303>throw hots>purge>dispel
>>584023392>throws hots again>you go OOM from purging and get smackedgg no re
>>584022935Watching streamers is the most stupid and degenerate shit imaginable.
New thread>>584023646>>584023646>>584023646
>>584023381>play horde pvp because I love wpvp>kill every alliance I see>engage in world pvp groups>they all leave>I've already quit after 2-3 months anyway (raid logging is cringe) Alliance are such little bitches every single time
>>584023296>you won't have anyone to queue agains't in BGsBGs are shared between PvE and PvP realms.
>>584023476I don't know why you make up these scenarios when it's clear you haven't even played the game. Purge and dispel are 2 for 1 and especially purge is cheap to spam. Druids were the worst healer in both pvp and pve because of their reliance on hots which not only are garbage because especially pvp often relies on burst, but also because they're so easily dispelled without any dispel resistance which druids do not get until tbc (together with lifebloom).
>>584019840>LeftWoman>RightPorn slop garbage
>>584020920>>"there always should be a button to push" design philosophy having high priority in class balancingexcept if you are fucking prot paladin.FUCK!!!
>>584002026so why are you allowed in HD model user
>>584008876i literally do that with Heal just the same
>>584018334The fuck are you on about? Retoilet is all about either raiding or m+.
>>584020139my undead warlock loses to jahy feet
With all of this Olympus shit a part of me kinda hope they bring something like 80 man GvG to Forever instead of Arenas. It's not possible now due to the layering, but it would be damn cool.
