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>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.

>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>Release Dates
Name reservations on October 27th.
The journey begins on November 4th.

>Previous Thread
>>584000660
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dwarf girls :3
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world of warcraft
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I just want Fistweaver or something like it. That's all. Healbotting sucks. Active combat healing is peak.
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Play private servers.
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>>584023815
cant im not an ugly tranny
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>>584023752
Have you tried disc... oh wait. Penance is shit now.
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>>584023751
careful with these words
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I wish I wasn't so anti social. I need help on a quest.
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This but unironically
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>>584023752
Complete class redesigns and retail-style gameplay is never going to happen
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I already have my plan, 1st toon will be useful for raids so I can amass gold and 2nd toon will be good for pvp so I can farm alliance chuds with the gear my 1st toon received
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>>584023646
Human female mages are nice
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I want wc3 style death knights in the game. Where you go from being a paladin/warrior into a death knight by hearing the call of the lick king and doing something sacrilege that sends you on the path. Maybe even make them neutral to both factions as well as they should technically be evil.
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Foreverbros... its time we admit that Onlyfangs is the only thing that can save this slop.
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>>584023752
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Why the rush?

Why do we get three raids 1 month in? Won’t most players reach max level 6 months in? I thought wow forever was about slowing things down and be “forever”.

If you manage to level to 60 in 6 days /played (which is very fast) and even you play 8 hours a week, it will still take you 5 months.

There is plenty of stuff to do at 60, dungeons, reputations, professions, pvp, etc.

As you can see on the beta, even just at lvl 20 and 30 there is a lot to do.

I’d rather have the raids release slower and be more of a big deal to unlock (personally with a long quest chain (like Onyxia, kharazan, etc. or a world event like AQ).

Now it feels like whenever people reach 60 the dungeons are already mostly obsolete. Maybe even the first raids that came out are already obsolete. As the second wave of raids are already launching.

At least the streamers and content creators will be happy though.
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>>584023646
Human female supremacy.
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>>584023752
>Healbotting sucks. Active combat healing is peak.
GIGATRVKE
But nilla uncs aren't ready for that truth. They'll cry and cry and cry about there being no healers. But suggest making healing fun and they shit their pants in anger.
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>>584023891
Priest is pretty boring overall to me. Disc is the least boring spec the class has, but it's still meh.
Shockadin was cool back in the day, so I hope it works in Forever.

>>584024042
blizz sent out a survey and might add monks with less Pandaren flavoring
>picrel

>>584024347
That actually looks pretty cool. I'm leaning towards Shaman anyway if monks aren't available.
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*opens mic*
SIIIIIIIGH. Welp, there go my world buffs.
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>>584024181
honestly I could get behind "extension" classes
Example: you could become a death knight from paladin but you can't reverse the change and you can't just start as a death knight
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Please now that ret aura is nerfed can prot paladin have another button to press?
O-or at least change holy shield position with Templar's bullwark so I can take holy shock?
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>german client
>make human female
>immediately notice that your character has skyler white's voice
Fuck bros I can't do this shit...
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>>584024605
Clear comms
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>>584024605
get off vent or i'll have you bent
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finally ONE good reddit thread, jesus
https://old.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x2ds4f/this_100k_tournament_has_kind_of_destroyed_the/
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>>584024627
That is how you get Paladin mains to riot
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>>584024605
>LMAO
>Inted
>It's okay lil bro, you parse peppers anyways
>[Laughter]
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>>584024751
W-what if I ask pretty please and stuff?
A-also while I'm asking can we have auto attacks resetting holy shock as a mid level libram?
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Has anyone tried the ingame voice chat?
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>>584025014
its bad
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Healers should not be dpsing. Healers should be healing, providing buffs, some debuffs and maybe some crown control.
Sorry, (not sorry, trannies).
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>>584025014
I don't even know it exists.
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>>584025028
I agree (healer main btw)
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>>584024181
>>584024613
Warlock tank as a WC2 death knight instead of the cringe as shit demon form.
Death Knights as fallen paladins that you level a paladin to like, level 40-50 and then sacrifice them (if we wanted sovl overdose, you'd have this reversed for undead).

However that is effort, sovl and essencia which (((blizzard))) as owned the fecal indian race hates with a burning passion and not "in the vision and spirit of cucklassic+ (but tmoggies are!)".
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>>584025014
yes ofc
I plan to use it to perform ear licking ASMR in raids
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I take responsibility for Retail-
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>>584024347
does this work? are you a dps and a healer?
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>>584025410
>Aggrend shits the bed for a third time because he can't stop sucking streamer cock
>The adult in the room, Ion Holocaustas takes the blame
He is the hero we have and do not deserve.
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>>584025427
He is a bad healer and a worse dps.
But it's okay because he is in <Bibisi Aggro> with a 4h MC clear time.
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>>584025028
Boring nonsense.
Nobody worth a damn like playing whack-a-mole with health bars instead of actually engaging the enemy.
If that's how you like to play, you're subhuman. Simple as.
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>>584025427
It's mostly a dungeon build where healing is never really a big problem

>>584025662
You will never be cutting edge player.
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>>584025714
You would choose a dps role in that case. I want to heal and protect my allies so that's why I rolled a healer. Damage is your job.
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Druid pvp healing (tbc) (arena) is very fun.

A mix of healing, running, rooting, 'loning, damaging
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Rate the 1-30 experience. I think it needs work.
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>>584023815
If CoA comes back in some form, i'll probably drop Forever
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>>584025014
i used it in 2019 for an onyxia raid. seemed fine and there wasnt any name confusion
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>>584025028
Factbomb. Even GW2 rolled back the "everyone should be dpsing!" for their raids and now sequel. It's a failed experiment. In retail there's a mythic+ healer shortage because now healers have to do everything a DPS does on top of "playing whack a mole" with their party's health.
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That fat fuck Agg is really balancing the game around a streamer tournament?
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>>584025859
I am thobeit.
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>>584023646
Finally a decent OP image
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>>584023972
Horde get Gilneas
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>>584026125
>Is fat fuck aggrend...
>Doing what fat fuck aggrend always does?
YES. YES YOU DUMB FUCKING RETARDS.
WOW FOREVER IS JUST SOD-.
IT WILL ALWAYS BE SOD- BECAUSE AGGREND CANNOT STOP HIMSELF.
YOU ARE HYPING YOURSELF UP FOR FUCKING SOD- WITHOUT ANY OF THE REDEEMING SHIT SOD HAD.
YOUR FOREVER HOME IS MADE BY FUCKING AGGREND WHO HAS A MELTY IF ANYONE PLAYS IN A WAY HE DIDN'T PERSONALLY APPROVE OF.
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>>584023962
Just ask in general chat for help
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>>584025913
Spamming the same 5 abilities on rotation is also boring sheep behavior. Any sane person will go crazy doing the same shit over and over and over.
The only role for the rational human is battle healer.

Also, have Fistweavers wiped out "traditional" healbots on retail? No? Then get under the desk where you belong.
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More like Faggrend lol
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Will wow forever give us the playable kino races that retoilet didnt?
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How do we solve the alliance Shaman problem?
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Why is Stitches aggro to Horde?
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>>584026420
What problem? Being incredibly desired in raids?
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>>584026362
>spamming 5 abilities on a rotation so good green healthbars go up
vs
>spamming 5 abilities on a rotation so bad red bar go down

Retoilet retard, I think you should go back to retail.
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>>584026412
best i can do is trans trolls with de loa of transitioning
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>>584026420
Give dwarf some busted racials that make all the metafags basedface.
Make elemental not worse than its vanilla version.
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>>584026420
Make Dwarf women more prettier
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>>584026420
make dwarf girls sexier
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>>584026362
Healing is the least rote and spammy of all the roles thoughbeit. It's 100% situational.
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>Discourse and Argument happens
>Shill (indian or pedo troon) pretends not to understand and starts spamming non-sequitur and nonsense retarded shit
>Declares xir won
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>>584026412
Forever will get jack and SHIIIT
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>>584026567
I think I might just go female Dwarf Shaman just to be special
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this is going to piss off so many people and im going to laugh the whole time.
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>>584025962
more skills
more blues
better damage
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>>584026825
What are you even planning to do with this build?
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If all specs were removed and every class had ONE identity, the game would immediately be kino of the highest order and have the best gameplay WoW has ever had.
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>>584026825
>1h seal twisting
yeah you're retarded
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>>584026825
so you're a flag carrier?
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>>584026825
Get rid of seal twisting

Make seals last 10-15 minutes
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>>584026825
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>>584026969
so just like in retail
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>priest when the warrior wont tank
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>>584026969
also every class should be able to equip all weapons and shields
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>>584023891
Blizzard please give me Arcane Mage Healer and my life is yours
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undead paladins SHOULD OFFFFF been death knights
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>should of
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>>584026412
They already said they are giving us naga
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>>584024527
so thats why they nerfed all the buffs classes bring, so they can make a new class that covers them all, Bard
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>>584027352
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>>584027281
please no

>>584026412
no satyr no buy
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>>584024374
She has a night elf boyfriend
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>>584026559
>>584026567
I think wow should take some cues from Lineage2 femdwarves
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>>584026825
you mean this
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>>584027281
Aggrend regrets giving classes new playstyles in SoD.
Anyway have you tried Shockadin yet? It's looking very epic.
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>>584027497
>Aggrend regrets giving classes new playstyles in SoD.
he doesnt
we regret retail and era faggots like you ruining our game

also streamers
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>he thinks Forever will last more than 6 months
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PvP or PvE ?
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>>584027574
RP like a real adult.
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>>584027571
true
everyone will go back to retail
retail bvlls always win
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>>584027553
You're definitely on the spectrum.
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>>584027443
That doesn't even look like a dwarf.
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>>584027574
horde pvp
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>>584027652
ok cool this is still not classic
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>>584027571
It will last longer than that. Dare I even say, it will last... Forever.
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>>584027723
yeah its classic+ =D
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>>584024527
we need
>deathknight
>necro
>illusionist
>warden
>witch
ordered by priority
anything not listed is gay and should never be added
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>>584027571
streamers are not representative of the game. theyll get bored in 6 months and fuck off since wow wont bring the views it did at launch.
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>>584026412
Easy, low effort races we will probably get in Forever:

>blood elf
>high elf
>dark iron dwarf
>forest troll

Other races that we could plausibly get

>half-ogre (Rexxar people)
>worgen
>goblin
>pandaren
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>>584026558
Pretty sure they're going to change their racials since they're the weakest and most uninspired.
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should dwarf girls look like innocent little girls or shortstack sex bombs?
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Why does the hype around this game feel completely fabricated by corporate yes men?
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>>584027710
And that's a good thing!
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>>584026902
This but unironically
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so enh shams don't really use agility, but intelent + mental dexterity talent? interesting
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>>584027919
wow wins regardless
stay mad lil guppy
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>>584027553
Seriously why do people like the SoDomy gimmick specs so much
Rogue tank was the worst whoever though combo points on a tank makes sense needs to be put in an asylum.
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>>584028040
fun plain and simple
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>>584027919
its hype for slop. Very much like GTA6. It will die down naturally after 1-2 months when people realise Forever added nothing of substance to the game
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Warlock or Hunter, Horde side. please decide for me.
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>>584028105
Hunnter Droll
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>>584028105
Warlock if you're cool
Hunter for easy mode
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>>584028059
TRVKE
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>>584028059
VERY good bait
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>>584027571
It has to! It has to last forever!
I-it just has...
NOBODY POST THE SOD/SOM POPULATION CHART.
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>>584028056
>Retoilet rotations
>Retoilet raid fights
>Fun
If you want to spam your abilities without having to worry about mana then actually go back to retail. Classic combat is tactical. SoDomy combat was autistic APM slop you'd find from WotLK going forward
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>>584028319
imagine being 30+ and this mad about fun
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>PoV: You fell for it again
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>>584028040
It was...fun.
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>private p2w server faggots still mad their life savings got nuked along with the server
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>>584026504
Dumbass. We're talking about switching dynamically between dealing optimal dps and rescuing low hp allies or topping people off before a big damage mechanic hits.

It's infinitely more engaging than just DPSing or just healing because you have to watch all of the enemies and all of your allies and manage both damage and healing CDs simultaneously.

>>584026568
lol
lmao
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>>584028387
retards: "there should never be any gear upgrades"
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>>584028040
Fun, also, anyone with a brain knew rogue tank was going to be fucked not because of combo points but because >Agi stacker >evasion tank >Ever a good idea why yes, what tanks love, adore and are known for is randomly taking no damage for 30s+ then dying to two RNG hits! KINOOOO. Literally all they had to do was make the tank rune turn dodge into stagger so rogue takes damage.
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>>584028363
Imagine being 30+ and unironically finding spamming fun
>>584028392
Imagine thinking this dogshit questline was good
Watching it felt like I was watching retoilet Dragonflight shit
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>>584028319
Funny wotlk was the best expansion ever.
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We need a 4th spec for all classes that deepens the combat system with new roles, not new classes that are just "DPS but it's bone blasts instead of shadow balls"

Necro Mage (healer/pets)
Wilds Druid (debuffs)
Tactician Warrior (buffs)
etc.
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>>584027919
because it is, blizzard is famous for being a shill company that pays millions for shady social media boosts with bots, they get a deal probably with all the viewbotting they are doing on twitch as well as the reddit upvotes
think about it for a second, aion 2 has 400k online on steam + all the bots and players on purple, and it has much less social media presence
meanwhile wowf has 500k characters created on the beta, and the vast majority are alts because people have 4 or 5 character each person, and has far more social media presence
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>>584027464
based
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>>he thinks Forever will last more than 6 months

not my problem? you think i have shares in activision blizzard or something? i'll stop playing when I'm not having fun anymore
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>hes not in a clique with 5 friends that run a full guild and will have gear funnled to them
lmfao, good luck tranny faggots, mabey if you sell butthole pics like Jahy, you might get a throw away wepon one day.
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>>584028387
>Market your entire game around Classic Plus and horizontal progression
>Look inside
>Retail Minus
>Vertical gear progression
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>>584028646
>clique
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>>584028416
>retoilet talking about retoilet problems

Classic "pve" is spamming 2-3 buttons while barely doing any mechanics
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>>584028496
>Stagger
They might as well have introduced Pandachink shit with how retoilet coded it was
>>584028538
WotLK was unironically the beginning of the end and anyone who actually liked it is part of the problem
It RUINED classic Naxx
It introduced shit phasing tech and cutscene quests
It introduced LFG
The only good thing about it was Ulduar and even then it was ruined because classes in WotLK were shit APM slop because autists wanted to pretend they were gooks who played Starcraft
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>>584028568
>necro mage
it would obviously be a conjurer and not a necro. youd summon mana wyrms and those arcane things
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>>584028795
>WotLK was unironically the beginning of the end and anyone who actually liked it is part of the problem
Oh good lord youre a classic purist, please stay in your lane
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>>584028729
>clique
pic rel, we also say nigger faggot non stop to made fun of people. feels good not being a nigger faggot tranny
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>>584028898
>we're also underage
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>going Alliance
>remember Horde had 95% win rate in AV

Is there any hope it will be different this time now that they'll nerf the Horde racials and Alliance has some better ones this time?
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>>584028795
>No arguments just screeching and squealing
Got it.
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>>584028837
I am a classic purist
You are a wrath baby
And Forever is CLASSIC+ not WotLK+
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>>584028580
It's not 2010 anymore, Aion 2 has less presence because everyone outside of Asia knows not to bother to give kMMOs the time of day
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>>584028973
>I am a classic purist
Ok play classic its RIGHT there
Leave forever alone
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>>584028319
but classic had infinite mana just drinking flasks
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wow I just looked up uther and then took a look at shadowlands lore having not paid attention to lore since wrath
What the fuck happened? The power scaling went extreme and uther became some angel thing
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>>584028683
it's not vertical because you see, you get the gear and it's "Scatforged" right and then you equip your turdsome ringerino, okay, and like, you just do 50% more damage per piece of scatforged item, but the scatforged item is like, MC item level and stats a-and its only active in the raid that drops scatforged items, the great sewers of mumbairai a-and it's bad everywhere else an-and it's horizontal, n-not vertical, like sanctified and timeworn in sod a-and...
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>>584027415
jaina cunny uuuuooooooh segs. give more cunny please
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>>584029075
He became bluether
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>>584029075
if you give a single fuck about the story you have already missed the point of MMOs brainlet
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>>584029047
tfw you learn trannys actually unironically think they have periods
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>>584028929
There's no way they won't rework the classic BGs, they have way too many issues for the retail audience.
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>>584027201
No. Like how all MMOs were before vanilla WoW, tranny.
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>>584028973
>I am a Classic Purist
>but I will NEVER EVER EVER play Classic

fuck outta here
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>>584028982
the steam version is global only and has 350k players daily so u're wrong
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>>584028392
>i plan to live FOREVER

poggies
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>>584029008
Forever is made for Classic players not Retoilet players you actual RETARD
>>584029036
Flasks were another resource to manage
Retoilet doesn't even need that
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>>584027415
cunnyifying every female automatically makes them infinitely better.
prove me wrong, you /LITERALLY/ can't.
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>>584027553
>retail and era
What the fuck is "era"
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>gold selling bots
>on a beta that's being wiped in less than 2 weeks

Are these fuckers just getting desperate or something?
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they need to remove these tranny HD models from the game
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>>584029247
>Forever is made for Classic players
Nope
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>>584029296
Turn your monitor on bro
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When the full game releases, I should sacrifice 2% damage overall to get Demonic Sacrifice for an Afflictlock, right? The 15% shadow damage is worth it? Or is it better to pass up Sacrifice and just use a Succybus?
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so how do you even get gear as prot paladin, you need spell damage and high armor but every mail you get from quests is strength and the few craftable items are sparse and take a long time to craft or are expensive and you wont be able to afford them at server launch
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>>584029267
little girls in fiction will always be sexier. Young and tight cunny forever
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>>584029296
>they need to remove these trannys
this
its the only way to save the game
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>>584029315
>"No- AAAAACCCCCKKKK!"
>*dies from rotting infected axe wound after Holly calls it Classic+*
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>>584029290
Streamers buying gold to buff their characters for a shitty tournament
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>>584029290
there's a streamer faggots tournament and they are buying all the gold they can to win the tournament and blizzard is going to do nothing about it, they will never ban the streamers for RMTing
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If I make a paladin will I have to tank?
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>>584029467
Erm, ackshually, they banned them and they had to buy a new acc!1
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>>584029353
lmao boddied that tranny freak
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>>584029363
Pets don't have wrath avoidance so there generally going to die on the first aoe/spell the boss casts. I have no idea why they put it up so low on the three because both affli and destro are never playing with a pet in pve ever again.
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MTF [Rotheap Innards]
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>>584029267
Only if they have big tits
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>>584029184
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>>584029407
Touch some grass buddy
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Nelfie Discipline Priest.
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>>584029496
In raid you put a dress on
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>>584029184
only 350k? isnt that free to play?
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>>584028392
>live forever
holy fuark Aggrend you genius
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>>584029515
>wrath avoidance
What does this tranny term mean
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>>584029542
every free game is mixed because the browns find offensive that everything it isn't 100% free
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>>584029575
need to discipline this poster with my dick.
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>>584029363
Yes, you don't need a pet. You can just 3x instant dot 4 different mobs and draintank while they wither.
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>>584028646
I thought you were in Olympus
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>>584029575
Your starshard racial will get nerfed, it deals too much damage. 80% damage nerf is incoming
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>>584029515
PvP/"Le epic sovl xD"
ALso known as they are adding avoidance while huffing, puffing and crossing their arms in shame and humiliation, like they had to do in sod.
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>>584029617
But in dungeons? I never tanked so I have tank anxiety...
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>>584029725
olympus has a SD requirement unless you join <Olympus Gays>
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>>584029670
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EQleKQcu0c
dwarf shaman sisters not like this
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>>584028387
>soft reset
What does the even mean? It sounds like it could be similar to an expansion where your old gear sucks now?
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I'm having a blast and there's no amount of posting retail trannies can do to stop it from being a success
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>defending Koreanslop mmos
fuck the fucking Koreans bro. They fucking killed Lineage 2 and they still refuse to give us official Lineage 2 classic servers. FUCK THEM. I literally only play WoW because i cant play Lineage 2
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>>584029930
stat squish, old gear gets ilvl reduced
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>>584029854
these dwarf shaman tears are not based in reality
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>>584029930
there will be 2 current tiers and after every 2 tiers they will squish the stats on all gear so everything is the same except the 2 current tiers
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>>584029930
>what does the even mean?
the same thing every time a forever dev opened their mouth we've receive the same message, that they have absolutely no fucking idea what they are doing with the game
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>>584030004
Ew
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What do I skin for Thick Leather?
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>>584029930
Catchup raids
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>>584030002
It's been over a decade and (((ncsoft))) is still squatting on the City of Heroes and Wildstar IPs
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>>584030017
people trying things out, i know a couple people that levelled shaman to 20~30 and wont be playing it on live
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>>584030089
beasts
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>>584030165
thats not possible lvling to 20+ is a big investment. you couldnt do that in just a couple days
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>claims dungeon grinding and questing will be about the same
>at level 20 it takes 4 runs of deadmines to get 1 level
This especially doesn't add up when you take into consideration that you can only do 5 instances per hour.
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>>584029540
kids dont have big tits
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>>584030243
Why would you level your main class on beta?
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>>584030243
i know bro who the fuck has 6hours to play to get to 20, the neets need to be stopped they are ruining gaming
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>>584025714
good thing a whole version of the game exists for people like you, but its not Forever and you do not belong here.
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>>584030017
nigga horde had thousands of undead paladins for the same reason, there will be much less when the game goes live
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>>584025028
Healers should be healing, buffing, and curing debuffs.
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>>584030089
the raptors by gurubashi arena
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>>584025014
>ingame voice chat
Wtf, there is an ingame voice chat?
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>most based alliance race
>most in demand class
Tell me why you aren't playing dwarf shaman again?
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>>584029542
Aion 2 is garbage but half the negative reviews are 3rd worlders complaining about paying a subscription to use the auction house in a free game
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>>584025028
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>>584030373
Tough shit. I'm never gonna stop asking blizzard for it. I wrote paragraphs in the new class survey they sent out explaining why they should add monks to Forever. The gameplay is too popular for them to ignore, so it's only a matter of time.
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>>584027632
>back to
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>>584030572
im playing horde and my friend is already playing shaman
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Hey Shatner, how do I hurl bolts of lightning?
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>>584030315
They are not real so they can have big tits
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>>584030165
that's because shaman sucks and it applies to both factions
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>>584030572
shaman is the most miserable class to play and it's also overnerfed because blizzard is retarded
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The first character I made as a kid was a dwarf. I thought they were cool.
Why do people think they're not?
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>>584030253
So less than an hour per level? Sounds good to me.
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>>584030860
why would you think a fat manlet is cool?
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>all of these issues that shouldn't even exist like whispers being broken

Is the game going to even be ready by launch day?
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>>584030829
i preffer them full flat
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>>584030971
They got a month to fix everything
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>MoP classic fags literally BEGGING to get merged into retail
LMAAAAAAOOOOO
KWAB
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>>584030860
people are insecure and don't like short andor bald characters because of it
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>>584028568
We dont actually need any new classes or specs at all.
Especially not retoilet fanfiction retardation.
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im so dogshit at pvp, how do I get better? I watch people play and they're pressing so many buttons
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>>584030537
How can you not remember the main feature of patch 2.2?
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>>584023972
this but unironically but unironically
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>>584031078
dueling
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Would you play a Bard? Just a faggot with a guitar singing songs to buff others?
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classic players hate friction and if there was less of it they would love it as long as the endgame was a joke difficulty wise

thats just the truth
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>>584030860
theyre cool but they cant be mages
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>>584026412
ogres will be the first race they add, both factions because of their neutral mercenary lore
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>>584031212
Does it really matter? We're not getting any of those new classes anyway.
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You were right Nillerlords. You were right about Forever.
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>>584031082
lol epic rickroll for the win xd
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>>584030017
alex is playing dwarf shaman now
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>>584030776
I'm surprised they haven't done that for WoW forever, should do it before they kick the bucket.
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>>584031212
no
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>>584031078
most used abilities on easiest keybinds
least on hardest
look up useful macros for your class
practice until using certain abilities becomes second nature
learn matchups
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>>584028496
rogue tank was literally REQUIRED for last boss of scarlet enclave

literally every raid that cleared it prenerf had a rogue tank
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>>584029854
It was almost like the people in this general called it day 1 what was going to happen and the blizzard shills going after them are very silent now.

I told you fuckers, NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY FUCKING DWARF. IF YOU ROLL ALLIANCE AS MELEE YOU'RE FUCKED
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>>584031078
theyre only pressing 1 button every 1.5secs maximum
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What do I do for 25 days?
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Warlock or mage? Horde pvp
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>>584031506
obviously AGP faction wont play dwarf lmao
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>>584031548
optimize your leveling route with the assumption you wont get dungeon groups immediately
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>>584031548
post transphobia on wowfg
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>>584031548
cope that Forever will be your new Forever home
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This addon that an anon shared with us yesterday is so kino you should give it a try. It voices the unvoiced quest parts with voices that actually sound like their respective NPCs. It also gives you narrated information about lore of zones that you visit
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/spoken-player
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>>584031596
I'll be healing in dungeons so that won't be an issue
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>>584031506
Yes tranny rolling cute girls is the only option. I'm glad your faction will die off (again)
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>>584031336
Never cheat never lie vanilla fresh until I die
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>>584031548
Find a better game to play so you have something to fall back on when Forever disappoints.
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>>584030621
Monks dont seem popular at all desu.
In general it was always a really dumb class idea for warcraft.
It never will feel like it fits.

>im a professional retoilet forum troll
we know, the only people still playing retoilet are the ones who spent a decade crying on the forum for the game to be as soulless and gay as it has become.

Good thing Blizzard is showing more discretion with changes this time. They actually agree with erachads that flying mounts were a mistake but retoilets cry every time they cant zoom around at 500% speed.

The reality is youre only hyper focused on Forever because its new and your favorite streamer is playing it. You'll play, join their guild, act like a faggot and maybe even claim youre having fun. But over time the slow pace of the game will wear on your adhd addled mind and one day you'll simply find yourself playing retail again.
Will you even make it 60? who knows.
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>>584031668
>he cares about lore
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>>584031737
The saddest thing is that last bit probably applies to over 90% of the initial Forever playerbase.
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Troll magi are huge cope
Orc magi are complete nonsense

Horde should have 3 warlock races (Orc, UD, Troll) and 1 mage race (UD)
Alliance should have 3 mage races (Human, Dwarf, Gnome) and 1 warlock race (Human)
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>hes rolling a dps in forever

just know its going to look like this x100
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Where da Goldshire sloots at?
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>>584031634
This
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>>584031910
No because I'm playing with friends and we can always get a group going if we need to
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What's the shortest name you can have?
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>>584032005
Bal Sak
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>>584032005
2 letter 2 letter
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>>584032005
Ay Nal
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>>584032052
>>584032078
Um, wow, could you be better humans next time?
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>>584031858
Yeah I'm white.
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>>584032075
I'm making a female gnome named Lo Li
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>>584032005
Ni Ga
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>WoW Furever
>no Woggies or Vulpera
Blizz please
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Imagine being a clothcuck
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>>584032285
>worgen
Yeah that would be cool
>vulpera
Not in a million years furfag
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>>584031212
they will never make aug mistake again, its either dogshit of guaranteed group slot
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>>584031212
Yeah I would
>faggot
Nah I play females only
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>>584031212
i would main a bard
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they finna nerf clothies more lmao

theres been a couple warlock and mage techs out
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>>584032576
she looks like she fucks male human paladins exclusively
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Every class should be able to wear plate armor
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>>584032468
What's the matter? Afraid you might like it?
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>> It's still too early to say whether there will be a 'soft reset' for gear progression. However, our intent is that everything a player does in the game should hold meaning. What a player experiences and the items they earn should all matter. While maintaining this 100% forever might be practically impossible, it remains a core principle and pillar of 'WoW: Forever' that we want to uphold as long as possible.

HEY
SHITFUCKS
OTHER GAMES HAVE DONE THIS SUCCESSFULLY JUST TAKE NOTES! EVE ONLINE, RUNESCAPE, HELLO?
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>>584023646
Orc or Undead Warrior, /wowfg/?
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>>584032285
Kill all furries
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>>584032784
finna
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I know there are lots of linux anons here, u guys using AMD, right? this guy has such low fps for a 5070 ti, what is your fps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8RMXAYgxE
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Every toon should have a roll and parry ability.
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Transmog is unnecessary and for minmaxers. If you want to look better, you can just wear that gear. It's that simple.
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>>584032994
orc for minmax 1% axe crit
undead only if they could go posture
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>>584030860
Why do you care about what people think
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>>584031212
People lose their shit about power infusion, imagine an entire class with nothing but power infusion buffs
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>>584030856
That’s the classic shaman experience
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>>584031894
It's true, there's legit nothing in any source material or lore book that would suggest why there are troll and orc mages in WoW.
They just ignored it and let them have it.
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>>584032889
Only if they are monstrously hung
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Will they ban my char if I name him Prawn Bone
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>>584031910
>message tank
>"Geared warlock here. I'll make sure you and the healer always have a heathstone. Also I'm right outside"
>instant invite
Its just that easy.
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>>584030253
You are meant to quest.
That is how you are supposed to play, not playing like aggrend wants you to play means you should go slower and be punished for it.
You can do it, but you should be strictly worse than people who play the intended and correct way.
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>>584032285
Worgens are basically guaranteed because of Gilneas and SFK. I really hope they end up putting Vulpera in Uldum and pirate towns.
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>>584033305
It has always been easy to get invites if you bother to write something other than "dps inv" like every other mouthbreather
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It is funny how much more convoluted alliance questing is compared to horde. All dungeon chains aside, just take duskwood for example.

There is a zone wide book that leads to chain on every mob that has a -10% drop rate and you can complete the whole zone without getting it.

The elite quests and stalvan chain has you run to wetlands for a different quest, then around moonbrook, goldshire, the redridge and stormwind. The Mor'ladim quest has you run to the Graveyard three times just to kill one mob.

Then there are things like Thandol Span where you have to jump off the bridge and into the water to pick up 2 quests.
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>>584033305
Yeah, I'd invite you.
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>>584023646
I haven't been following the beta
How is Forever thus far?
>better than sod?
>better than turtle/ascension?
>better than regular classic?
did spriest get anything btw?
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>>584027281
>Hybrid tax is real and explicitly stated in developer talks.

If you want mage to be inferior warlocks in every way... sure.

Remember folks no matter the current trajectory for balance, Rogue is always intended to be 5-8% higher than everyone else.
Utility is a tax and people finally have to pay it.
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>>584032728
That's all females in wow except for human women (they get fucked by male worgen)
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>>584032996
Sorry chud, this is our game now.
>>584033258
>>584033403
Yaaaas
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>>584032784
>priest wearing plate
I cummd
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>>584028434
It's pretty much impossible for WoW players to conceptualize sidegrades
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>>584031042
B-bub-but-buBUTH!!! But!!! The grey parsing brownskinned pornography addicted transgendered subhuman 4channy loony goony troonies said MoP (More Poop) was hecking good and epic and teh bestest!
C-could it be... that... T-that.... It was fucking diarreah dogshit and only enjoyed by porn addicted subhuman contrarians that belong in gaschambers????
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>>584030856
>shaman is the most miserable class to play and it's also overnerfed because blizzard is retarded
Yes, they were originally super strong when WoW first rolled out in 2004/2005 and there was a vast outcry at how overpowered they were. The nerfs came and ever since 2006 they've been pretty mediocre dogshit. Even expansions later, middle of the road is the best they can hope for.
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There once was an anon searching for more than just Classiiiiiiiiiic
Blizzard responded but he still wasnt haappyyyyy
He subbed for a month to test out Foreeeeeever
but once he got smacked he cried to all of the aaaaanons
"This isn't the Classic we always waaaaanted. It feels like Retail we got railroaded..."
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You wanna know WHY blizzard is nerfing everything because of streamers?

The winner of the pvp tournament gets the "wowf heart" aka the chance to pick one of the new classes to put in the game

Thats why streamers are crying so damn hard about "wah wah that class is too op"
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>>584033450
Better than SoD
Worse than Turtle
Slightly worse than Ascension
Slightly better than Classic
No
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>>584033305
>/r "That'd be 150g for the tank service and 50g for the healer service"
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>>584033305
>priest healer party leader
>yeah nah, I'm calling dibs on cloth gear
>*declined*
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>>584033550
Blizzard saying it's impossible to have forever horizontal progression is stupid. If i last logged into eve online 20 years ago and was flying a Rifter, I can still log in today and kill people with that Rifter in spite of all the new mods and ships added since. Things don't have to become outdated. Eve is also a better game than wow.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x2ds4f/this_100k_tournament_has_kind_of_destroyed_the/

> It's actually worse. Blizzard came out and said the winner GETS the heart of WOWF. With that heart they can literally do anything, new classes, new races, mounts that dig a tunnel to north rend. It's really OP.

The real reason why streamers are screaming
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>>584033450
It's worse than sod and developed the fatrend, of SoD fame.

>>584031408
Lol, lmao. Post your rogue tank.
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>>584033643
i saw this comment on reddit as well but i have seen no source for it

i asked chatgpt to do a web search on it as well and it found nothing?
"Conclusion: The claim appears to be misinformation or a joke. I found no credible evidence that Blizzard has offered the winner any control over which classes get added to WoW: Forever."
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>>584033450
beats sod but that's not saying much
sadly no official server will ever match the pservers
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>>584033745
Champions, the streamers are about to get the sigils, we need to act fast
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>>584033850
>chatgpt
anon...........
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>>584033643
>>584033745
You must be seriously retarded if you can't even tell this is supposed to be a joke.
>browses reddit
makes sense
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Are warlocks boring? One of the complaints I've heard is affliction is just better than it used to be but does literally the same stuff.
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>>584033927
>>584033850
because chatgpt said so lol
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>>584033885
it's a good way to quickly search for information
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>>584034029
none of the information is right if you trust ai you're trusting the crackhead in front of walmart
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>>584033734
amazing how all these retards screaming about how their horizontal progression mmos are so much better than wow are insisting that wow switch to their model instead of just playing those games
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bring it back if you wont give VT
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>>584032994
undead 2h animation is actual dogshit, go orc. There's going to be too many undead anyway.
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you should all be thanking me for getting rid of the anime troon avatarfag.
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>>584023972
As a Horde fan I want savannahs and pits dug in the ground. What Horde needs is a really elaborate pit.
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>>584034064
ok but is chatgpt wrong? because you blindly trusted a random reddit comment

so who is wrong? random reddit person or chatgpt?
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>it's another player inviting me into a group just because we're doing the same quest
just let me play ffs
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>>584031910
i have a premade i dont join random groups
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>>584034262
yes chatgpt is wrong
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race/class/spec combo for this feel?
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>>584033745
>retard thinks this SAO tier plotline is legitimate
LMAOOOOOOO
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>>584034263
>wahh wahh why do people in a MMO want to group wahhh
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>>584033058
agreed
.morph 7550
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>>584034327
so you have a source about the "heart of azeroth" that streamers will win?
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>>584034412
stop trusting chatgpt blindly
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So I never really played wow back in the day except for a brief trial period or whatever it was. I'm very curious about forever after seeing that survey about possible new classes. The illusionist sounds like a 10/10 to me, much like mesmer in gw2. Anyway, I'm mostly curious about future content releases. Will both retail and forever be getting future expansion packs? Is retail more or less "finished" or what? Has blizzard stated anything about this?
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>>584033058
Truth NVKEEEE

>>584034410
.morph and tmorph are cheating, worse than addons, and should lead to a perma.
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>>584034328
male undead shadow priest
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>On a questline for BiS weapon
>Find out that the questline ends right before the final quest in the beta

I know it's not a big deal. It is just a beta, but come the fuck on, you really couldn't let me have a good weapon?
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>>584034403
I unironically say this. Questing is best experienced solo.
Leave. Me. ALONE!
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>>584034563
Stop being anti-social
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>>584034483
dude give me a source or admit you're wrong
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>>584034403
shut the fuck up iranian boostranny you lost
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>>584034684
>>584034587
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>>584029930
Like a CTCG with a rotating banlist, but more like a rotating nerflist on existing items.
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>>584034263
>>584034563
Erm...??? Why aren't you accepting? You are supposed to accept.
Dungeons got killed because you wanted to quest with people and socialize in the open world.
Accept the fucking invite or get perma banned, nigger.
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Alexsensual is such a fucking retard I don't know how he lives with himself.
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>>584034859
why do you fags constantly obsess over this loser?
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>>584034859
hes the DSP of WoWclassic
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>>584034714
>>584034684
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>>584034963
>>584034931
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>>584034948
DSP is unintentionally entertaining though, Alex is just sad
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>>584034859
I'm just glad that he's admitting his height is 5'7". It's like his cryptonite.
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>wah wah why do da priest spell make big healy and big boom booms?!
>wah wah why do da mage icey ice go BOOM?!
>waaah why are warriors not so good at making boom booms?!
i hate streamers so much.
it's fucking level 30. some classes are better, some are worse. it changes as you level up. not every class needs to be the same. stop this HOMOgenization shit.
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should i play a night elf hunter or priest when it launches on the pvp servers... uuuu...
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>medallion of the cloak of ice block is baseline
nice one, retards
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>>584033450
>>better than sod?
>>better than turtle/ascension?
>>better than regular classic?
Yes
>did spriest get anything btw?
No
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>>584034103
More of a good thing is good?
>I think x is a good game
>wow you should just play x and only x forever why do you want to play y????
Retard?
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I need pink skyborne druid forms color variant , thoughts?
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>>584031548
cope
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>>584034823
Dungeons got banned so Skelly McBones has more gank targets in the open world.
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less arguing, more jaina or whitemane cunny please
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imagine buying a boost in tbc anni, or even better, buying glaives with RMT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Blizzard won't stop bots and gold selling. They have no intentions to stop it because they will go back on their word and sell tokens in a few months (just like they lied about it in classic).

Reasons that will get you banned:
>have a mean name
>selling services
>farming gold
>making money with your profession
>people don't like you, and they false report you until AI thresh hold bans you (no moderation)

Blizzard won't stop cheating. They won't stop gold buying. They won't stop bots. Instead they punish the players. You wouldn't farm gold would you? Are you a gold seller? You wouldn't sell services would you? Are you a booster? The loud majority of people on the forums cheer for regular players to be banned. It allows them to feel good about themselves while they cope about the fact that blizzard allows bots to stay.
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>>584035198
>talking shit on wow f
Not our guy. He is a third world booster iranian subhuman nigger ape europoop
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>>584033450
forever is dogshit, only season of mastery was worse than this.
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>>584035198
he was so based back in the days
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>>584035684
>forever is dogshit
so when are you leaving?
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>>584035634
You forgot

>You played in a way aggrend didn't personally approve of
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>>584035643
you forgot rank 1
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>>584035793
Yes good point. Blizzard loves to tell the players how to play. If you don't play the way they shoehorn you into playing, you are obviously bad for the game.
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>>584034328
sadly we have no playable liches
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>>584035870
And if you don't agree, what are you?
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>don't care about raids
>endgame is world pvp while leveling
>theorycrafting character progression
>realize it doesn't even make sense to invest in alts unless your main is level 40 and you still haven't quit the game
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will i get ban for naming my gnome priest loli temptation
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Healers still dpsed back in Vanilla btw
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>>584035173
Roll hunter if you want to gank people
Roll priest if you want to be ganked
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Ion calls out streamers:
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x2j46z/ion_hazzikostas_called_out_the_issue_with/

It's pretty obvious Blizzard screwed up by not capitalizing on the streaming boom from around 2012 to 2016, and they've been playing catch up ever since.
For some reason, they seemed to hate streamers back then and would ban them over frivolous things. Before Fortnite took over, streaming was dominated by Blizzard games like Diablo 3, Hearthstone, and WoW. Reckful and Sodapoppin were huge, and Blizzard still banned them.
Now they're trying to make streamers a core part of WoW Forever's identity, but it's too little, too late. Streamers are viewed much more negatively now, and the game shouldn't be shaped around their opinions in the first place.
Blizzard missed the moment when it actually mattered, and now they're overcorrecting in the wrong direction.
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>>584036062
Playing the game how you want. It's not blizzard's place to decide how people play the game. Player behavior is free will. You cannot force them to play a certain way just because you want them to experience something. It's moral fagging. There is no morality to playstyle.
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>>584036186
get the fuck in here bros
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>>584036189
no we didnt.
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>>584036206
ill kill them if they gank me on priest its ok uwu
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>>584036186
buy an ad tranny
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>>584036354
Not with that nerfed penance
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>>584035238
>why doesn't blizzard change the most popular mmo of all time to be more like my 25k player dad and brownoid mmo?

bro those games suck, blizzard realizes they suck and there is a minuscule market, and you have a wealth of options to choose from if you want to play those games. go give your shitty ideas to arenanet or ccp if you want to enshittify some games
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>>584030253
I heard it's 10 instances per hour in Forever. Haven't verified it though
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>>584036186
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>>584035684
>the most famous pedo from /wowg/ is now shilling his ugly character here

lmao get fucked troon
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>>584036420
its ok im built diff and i wanna play holy like a idiot </3 maybe ill just do hunter to be safe but i wanna melee hunter so im cooked...
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Im twerking right now in my room for Forevers longevity. JOIN ME SISTERS LETS TWERK.
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>lgbtqia+ friendly guild messaged me in the beta
>told me they are looking for sweaty loggers

DISGUSTANG
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>>584036245
Agreed brother!
*Guts your meme spec*
*Rapes your gold farm*
*Removes reward for your activities*
*Guts your items*
*FOMOs your items*
*Punishes your playstyle*
You can still do them brother, like how you can still go to MC in retail and equip old season gear, nothing stops you >:^)
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there is liderally noithing wrong with pandas
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>>584036186
i only watch alexensual
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>>584036592
are you in love with him or something?
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>>584036581
Fempandas have that body shape that makes me violently horny.
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>>584036507
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>>584036215
They should make a "list of issues players have brought up" and ask people to raise any other issues they have. Just fill that list with all the streamer complaints and they can filter out all the retards and get some good feedback for once
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>>584036569
filtered
or should i say LOGGERED
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>>584035684
how was sod worse than this? sod at least did the plus part of classic plus. people in here are just metacrafting about tired ass smooth brain garbage. no lore discussion. no social engineering, no gameplay moments.
boring as hell.
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>>584036785
most people played the beta for a week but don't want to burn out. Hence the lack of gameplay talk.
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>>584036581
they are better than sky elves
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Vulpera would fix the dwarf shaman issue
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>>584036712
i think porn brained people ruin any furry race that is cool
>mention pandas
>I WANNA FUCK THIS ANIMAL LOOKING 2 LEGGED BEING
le sigh... kupo
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Should I go Skinning/LW for twink gear or Skinning/Herb for money?
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>>584036785
bro i said SoM, SoD was cool, my favorite vesrion of classic, it a shame all its content and ideas were scrapped for this glorified classic era slop.
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>>584036785
I was too angry at blizzard for introducing the Classic Token in wrath classic to want to try season of discovery or mastery or any of the fresh crap.
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what makes online discussion surrounding this game so bad?
nobody even talks about huge issues like the sharding on zone borders
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>>584036884
most people played the beta and then refunded and are never coming back*
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why can every class buff back except paladins
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>>584026420
there is no problem brownoid, if the beta proves anything its that too many people will play it
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>>584037003
*sips*
dont car
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>>584036941
Well too fucking bad boy, WoW is a furry game
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>>584037003
because most the people discussing the game don't care about important issues. They only glaze and always use toxic positivity
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>>584037003
Plenty of people have talked about it. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean people aren't saying anything. I've seen a bunch of videos/posts on r*ddit about that specifically.
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>>584037003
Nothing about Forever matters
It's just yet another Classic server that will be dead in a year
People who genuinely believe it will receive attention over retail are copetards
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>>584037237
yup... rvtail bvlls always wvn....
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>>584036579
This "fuck you I'll destroy everything to appease my streamer" mentality is exactly why I drastically changed my approach to how I'll play in Forever.

>was willing to play healer even sham on Alliance side for my guild
>then I saw the absolute trainwreck that is the balance state
>then I saw we do not have a single person who is willing to play shaman, not even enhance
>then I saw no one will lift a finger to help me level or farm gold

So I won't sacrifice my personal fun to appease my guild or anyone else. Rolling Affliction Lock, doing DM E solo jump runs to bathe myself in gold, joining only pugs and mostly playing PvP. I won't let blizzard's streamer ass-licking developers or my shit guild ruin my enjoyment.
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>>584037237
ha yeah I remember when Runescape players said the same thing back in 2013, ah the good ole days. Is RS3 still around? You know after 90% of the playerbase left to go play their version of Classic+?
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trans rights are forever rights. Respect the trans community when you play Forever. we are people just like you just cuter
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>>584036420
didnt even need penance in classic to kill 99% of people that jumped you on priest
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>>584036995
ah my mistake, brainfart.
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>>584037342
I am going dwarf shaman but its for myself, enhance looks quite fun still despite the issues
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>almost no linux benchmark forever videos
this game feels like a psyop, everywhere you look all you see is influencers talking about it, but you can't find normal people playing it
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>>584026420
by letting alliance skelfs be shamans, or gnomes even. tiny totems would be kino
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No offense to my Gnome comprades but I think they look gay so I shan't ever play one. Is Night Elf the next best for racials if I'm playing a rogue?
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>>584036941
Yeah to me fucking involves kissing and they always still have animal mouths where kissing them sounds disgusting
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>>584037789
real
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>>584037789
jej
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>>584037426
in runsecape the autistic trannies and intelligent people with jobs play os. whereas in wow the autistic trannies and intelligent people with jobs play retail.
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>>584037426
Classic Era didn't take away their attention from retail
Hardcore didn't take away their attention from retail
Season of Discovery didn't take away their attention from retail

Forever won't take away their attention from retail
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>>584037792
I only play fem gnomes for that reason
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>>584026420
Literally give them Night Elf or Sky Elf Shamnas.
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>>584037992
we're making it out of durotar with this one mons
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>>584036972
skinning/herb until you either outlevel herb or decide to make the switch to LW. that way you can get a a few extra gold
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>>584037992
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>>584031737
What, does retoilet mean "retail player"? Bahaha. You fucking idiot. I haven't played retail in years. I play classic with months-long breaks.
My main gripe from day 1 of WoW launching was how boring tanking and healing was.
Then Warhammer Online came out with its hybrid healers that healed by dealing damage to enemies and awakened me to the truth: Hybrid Battle Healers are PEAK.
The only options WoW has had for that are usually Fistweavers, Shockadins, and Disc Priests.
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I don't know about you guys but I love to see ratoilet monkeys crawling over here to cry and complain, lol. Should you really be wasting your time here, I mean who knows how long retail really has left.
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Have they changed or added any lore with the scarlet crusade?
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>>584035198
>roidmonkey on PMS

no thx
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>>584038569
you seem to be operating under the delusion that youre not playing Retails reboot
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>>584038617
yes. whitemane helped every recruit when she was 8 and sucked them off as initiation
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>>584038654
Say it louder retard maybe it will come true this time.
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>>584037992
https://files.catbox.moe/jn02au.mp3
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>only like 1 post per minute
why are we dead already?
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>>584038740
people are playing
shitposting is for night time
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>>584038740
we're busy
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>want to play hot fem nelf warrior
>realize i'll never have windfury
>realize I'll not be able to solo farm anything
>realize no guild will take me
>realize I'll get completely eviscerated in pvp by every spec with their shiny new toys

How do I cope with not being able to be a sexy fem nelf?
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>>584038740
Playing Aion 2 atm.
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>>584038740
Well some people have a life and are doing rl stuff on the weekend
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>>584038535
>Hybrid Battle Healers are PEAK.
I really wish they made Forlo Holy Paladin like this but I don't think it really is.
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has there been a single mention from the devs about pets not having avoidance or dying in raid? it's going to be fucking miserable raiding as hunter or lock if sonething isn't done about pet survivability. in tbc affliction locks have to resummon imp after every single boss pretty much cause they just die in like one tick of an aoe.
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>>584038950
cunnyjaina needs to be busy with orcs
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>>584038974
just befriend a dwarf shaman im going dwarf shaman or night elf hunter :3
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>>584038740
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Since you now have no real reason to switch to bear and back to cat anymore, what would be the best all-round way to go at this? I have no idea how this would actually play out and things can still change in beta. But i'm thinking ditching everything that has to do with bear and shapeshifting other than healing because apparently this is what blizzard wants us to do.
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>>584038740
too busy typing in my streamer bestie chat
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>>584039153
Bro your ds?
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>>584038535
>Hybrid Battle Healers are PEAK.
True, I played the chaos one that had 2 swords, was cool.
Least give healers more to do. Fucking boring as hell gameplay in wow
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>>584038740
The main characters of WoW, Asmongold and Sodapoppin, are both live.
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>>584039206
experts are saying its the worst build of our generation
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>>584039167
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>>584039439
Soda who?
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>>584039427
Give me XI RDM, i will cast haste on you, i will cast refresh on you, i will dot and slow the enemy, and i will not run out of mana healing
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Affli or demo for levelling?
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>>584039153
not aggrend's problem
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>>584039451
well yeah, why not go rogue at this point but i refuse to, how does blizzard want me to play feral then
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>>584039498
a...any image where she is kind enough to pull her panties on side for us?
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>>584039583
demo and it's not even close
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>>584039583
early on affli for sure, swap to demo if you want after you get succ at 20, she slaps hard, but i think affli still has an edge overall but its close
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>>584039384
>entire new demonology spec is pointless
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>>584039503
some washed up whiny streamer, pic related
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>>584039583
natty?
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>>584038702
That doesn't sound very different than her normal story
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>>584039153
they take damage from aoe? i saw posts saying the hunter pets werent getting fucked
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>>584039806
he gets to snog vei every night. He has won.
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>>584039789
Uhm bro, did you read the last talent?
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>>584039206
If you're only pveing then this is fine, you're still gonna do shit dps compared to actual dps classes though. Why not just roll a rogue?
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>>584039773
no voidwalker tank?
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>>584039806
damn he looks like shit what happened?
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>>584039957
succubus is much tankier in forlo and will rip aggro with brand
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>>584039901
dumby that talent makes it so you can have 1 pet sacced and have 1 pet out. meaning if pets are as fragile as they are in classic/tbc it will be a pointless talent
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Alexensual won...

He fucking won...
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>>584039498
great now she's oom...
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>>584040023
that tends to happen when you're a whiny little bitch
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>>584039206
I have no idea what this build is trying to do so I'll just repeat what >>584039451 said
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>>584039583
how do you even exercise with all that flappy skin? it probably feels like a wet swimsuit that also gets chaffed.
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>>584040061
are you in love with him?
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>>584040058
Did they not give pets the avoidance shit?
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>>584037992
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Why aren't any of the big streamers complaining about layering?
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>designs your entire game
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>>584040139
Alex shills himself here
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>>584040139
he is the best wow streamer/player ever
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we need ion to fix the classes before release
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>>584039806
>>584040023
you can only scream so many retarded opinions into the world before it starts taking a toll on your body
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I will not be giving any attention to streamers or youtubers thank you for your attention to this matter, sorry (not sorry).
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>>584040242
Maybe because they're not stupid and realize layering is going to have be used a lot on mega servers.
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>>584040170
i dont know i just havent heard any mention of pet survivability from devs so i'm worried because if it's not dealt with then i'm gonna be bitching a lot
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>>584040494
Shit's gonna be real fucked if they didn't.
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>>584039704
https://files.catbox.moe/agiy9v.png


>>584039583
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>>584040563
>https://files.catbox.moe/agiy9v.png
ty! Jaina was always a cute kid
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>>584039583
lock disc seems to think afflic until 27 then respec to 3/3 demon brand
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>>584039957
succ just kills stuff way faster and she isn't going to die in couple hits so its whatever
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You should be attracted to adults. Dont be a degenerate.
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>>584040836
sad
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>>584025962
too much classic, not enough +
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>>584040890
this is fantasy, not irl
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>>584035071
he's sad in a very funny way. he is a concoction of derangement, delusion and other various psychotic disorders. he has gone through so many previous wow-related manic episodes that you can anticipate the plot and still enjoy the story. like for instance, current season we're at the point where he is targetting another streamer. this time it's Xaryu. started with subtext but gradually became less subtle. 15 minutes ago he was outright using cuckold analogies involving Xaryu on stream. alex kino has been a vg staple since nost, so at least a decade at this point
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>>584041052
>his fantasy is to fuck children
ok bro
take it to /b/ or something
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https://files.catbox.moe/gcznf9.png

>>584040890
why not both

>>584040897
void with talents might be able to replace a tank in early dungeons. I haven;t really tried
but for soloing succubus is no longer a wet paper bag
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>>584029290
it's spending $1k for a chance to win a lot more, the game has always been p2w by the way
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>Warlocks actually have a reason to cast Searing Pain now if they take Demonic Brand
Damn, Forlo gonna be wildin!
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>>584031894
Night elf warlock should be a thing. They're not all goody two shoes.
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Why does something like this make hybrid players seethe?

>Hybrid classes now do parity damage with warrior
Warrior: Gains the following new abilities:
>Peak Physique: Warriors are now immune to polymorph.
>Flexibility: Changing Stances removes all slow and snare effects from your character.
>Mean Look: Causes the target to be frozen in fear, unable to move for 30 seconds. Damage may interrupt this effect. Up to 3 targets may be frozen in fear at a time.
>Double Jointed: Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Execute, and Rend now all hit targets up to 30 yards away.
>Battle Pump: Your muscles are filled with blood, causing you to heal (400% of Attack power) over 12 sec.
>Invigorating Shout: Heal yourself to 100%. 3 minute cooldown.
>Marathon Runner: You now move 30% faster while in Battle and Berserker Stance.
>Concussion Blow is now a baseline ability.
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oooh man i sure LOVE hyperspawn when there's literally no reason to be there
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>>584040430
>use a megaserver for the database (chars, guilds, ah...)
>use realms as "layers"
>talk to an NPC in a capital with your hearth off cooldown to move your character to a new realm
wow
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best tank to learn tanking?
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>>584041190
based images. keep up good work
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>>584041329
When you type up stuff like this I can tell it comes from a place of petulant, child-like anger at hybrids.
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>>584041446
bear
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>jaina gens

eh..
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>>584041190
based but please it should be green
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>>584041329
Brownoids are a never ending source of entertainment
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>>584041446
there really isnt anything to learn, its just dps, but people wont get mad you're tanking them when you rip aggro
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hunter will just insta oom at 60
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>>584041738
they dont have mana issues because they just melee
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>>584041738
This is always the case unless... they can take aspect of the viper.
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Most people posting here don't even have beta access and are simply here to shit on the game because they are seeing their version of WoW dying because of Forever
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>>584041660
i usually heal but wanted to learn tanking, i've seen dps freak the fuck out that the tank lost aggo when the last mob was at 8% health and raged for the rest of the dungeon even when there are no issues. one nice thing is that i would make my own groups and wouldn't invite any class that would compete for drops.
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>>584039806
>>584040023
vrill drained completely by his succubus gf vei
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>>584041981
Well get some streamer to bitch about it to blizzard and maybe they will add it
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only reason i come to these threads anymore is for the cun cun ai chads keep posting.
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>>584041998
I dont have access and Im excited to play
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>>584042224
It'll probably only come up as an issue at 60
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>>584041485
>>584041591
See my point exactly. Hybrids seethe at other classes having fun too.
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>>584042230
sad, many such cases
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>>584042460
just imagine how tight and wet it feels
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>>584041738
Your consumes?
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>>584042460
>>584042230
Holy based....
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Should I be stance dancing as a prot warrior in forever? Speaking beyond level 30. I played tank warrior in wotlk and if I remember correctly I basically never had a reason to leave def stance ever.
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>>584042662
yeah for certain abilities
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>>584042662
No. There's no reason to ever change stances in pve combat as a protection warrior. Even prior to having charge, you're better off not charging and staying in defensive stance.
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Theres absolutely no fucking way i can play a class another than Hunter after experiencing this vanilla style content
Maybe the new mage hyper buffs have changed something so I might try that, but the quality of life of interacting with the world is just plain better as a hunter
And Im playing deep Survival, so im not even being a ranged faggot
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>>584042662
Pretty sure retaliation wanted battle stance
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>>584041329
why are warriors convinced their class sucks? I don't get it. They're fine, they're just not the walking god they were in classic. Put on the shield, and lead the group.
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>>584039937
for better or worse i just like hybrids so i can change my playstyle without rolling a new character
>>584040126
yes me neither but if you read what those talents do, blizzard clearly intents to give us a strange direction with them, by all means give me a more cohesive build (i know this one is shit)

shifting into bear to stun and shifting back to cat leaves you with 0 energy now, pressing shiftingpower leaves you with so many gcd that the stun already ran out the moment you can do anything else. burning through your mana with shiftingpower also leaves you pants down when you actually need to switch forms.
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>>584042002
part of being a good tank is ignoring the brainlet dps freaking the fuck out
you're never gonna have perfect aggro every pull, focus on whatever keep the group alive and you're good
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>>584042909
Nta but is the auto rage gen talent still worth it even if I get little out of improved tac mastery as a protter?
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>>584042942
hows levelling pure melee?
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>>584040336
Name his 3 worst opinions
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>>584042662
why would you ever change stances anymore?

thunder clap does more dmg than whirlwind lmao and works in defensive stance
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my friend wants to play this but i heard there are no blood elves and i do not play this game without being able to be blood elf female
also are they doing anything with world pvp at all? like making players impact actual zones over life-course of a server and such ( i know not but asking cause idk )
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>>584032005
Mo Fo
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>>584040773
I thought it was 26? The idea being even 2/3 brand is that good?
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>>584032005
peepee poopoo
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I wish we had a melee dps class with 1h+shield.
One cool thing retail did was the prot dps talent they added. Was that in wod?. It was fun while it lasted.
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https://files.catbox.moe/tfzh93.png

>>584032005
lo li
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>>584043582
fucking hell, look at that. perfection...
hooooly shit. imagine having to virtue signal that you don't like this. couldn't be me.
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So what are Alliance getting in Forever? Seems like evry cool shit goes to Horde while we only get fucking dwarf shamans no one asked for while Horde get Elf shamans. That's bullshit.
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>>584043582
god why does my cock love lolis so much
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>>584043329
OK now we can't have too much immersion and sandboxing. How are you supposed to parse that. Think of the streamers
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>>584043582
I want to jerk off on that cunny while pledging myself to the Scarlet Cunnysade
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>>584043712
You get a boat from Teldrassil to SW and no windfury for your melee and tanks lol
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>>584043712
we got dalaran. horde get mudhuts
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>>584043582
I will now join the Scarlet Crusade.
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Okay, my Druid is all BiS... Now what?
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>>584043783
so it is just another blizzshit moneygrab that will die as soon as streamers get gta6 or whatever big title is next
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>>584043883
i prefer mudhuts anyway
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>>584043582
i wish i had short and flat girlfriend who could cosplay and ageplay like this for me
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>>584043582
Tits too small
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>>584043946
now log off, wait for release and do it all again
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>>584043582
tits too big
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>>584043712
You get human hunters & gnome priests.
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>>584044038
she is a kid. she is supposed to be with no tits you idiot
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>>584043946
Now go heal some BGs
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>>584043582
There is nothing on this world more delicious than a pear shaped lawli
It is peak performance.
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>>584041547
Hag Jaina is better anyway
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pedos ruining catboxes now i have to filter them
sad
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>>584044192
I don't care, she's not real and big tits are better
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is there going to be an inclusive vg guild for homosexuals and furries and trans?
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>>584044394
yeah on /wowg/
https://litter.catbox.moe/z8yfq3.png
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>alliance shaman epidemic
>could have been completely fixed if they swapped it around so alliance got skelf shamans and horde got mages
this seems like such an obvious solution, why didnt they do it
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>>584044394
just join any pve rp guild and youll feel at home
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>>584044229
katherine > jaina
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>>584044394
<DogFart>
<Little Space>
<Remigration>
<Branded>
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>>584044494
just play dwarf bro, ur not an AGP tranny are you anon?
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>>584044198
I don't care about PVP (outside of mounts).
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>>584044518
THE BLORC GATE
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>>584044674
I will be playing a dwarf shaman yes, but most people arent like me
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>>584044494
Does alliance have that much problems with dwarves lol? This shit seems to be brought up a lot.
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>>584044619
all on sight
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>>584044394
you freaks would genuinely and unironically have much more fun in ffxiv
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is it true that azshara was a retard that destroyed the world?
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>>584044826
unironically around 75% of alliance players have AGP
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>>584043849
>no windfury for your melee and tanks lol
Why not? Alliance gets shamans now.
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>>584044890
Retail is infinitely more furry and tranny than ffxiv though
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>>584044494
i'm not maining shaman unless i can be femdranei
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>>584045029
Alliance isn't the blood elf faction thougheverbeit
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>>584045050
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I only play females. Cry and cope all you like.
t. the straightest male for 40 years.
Implying I'm going to suddenly turn into a tranny because you homos say so lmao.
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>>584045059
You aren't running into the modbeast freaks in ffxiv. If you're into modding at all you'll see 100x more of that shit there.
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>>584044518
>>584044742
Where is the Blorlliance love?
>>
Looks better with HD models
>Troll
>Tauren
>Dwarf
>Gnome
>NE

Looks worse with HD models
>Human
>Orc

Looks like absolute shit with HD models
>Undead
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>>584044826
No one wants to be a midget with awkward animations. Gnomes are cute, goblins are funny. Dwarves are just stupid.
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>>584023646
>girl who isn't slutty suddenly finds out she actually hot
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>>584045108
>what about

no but alliance has female humies & female nelfies
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>>584038974
Just aspire to be like her
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>>584044494
Blizzard said it's because they wanted it the school of magic to represent their faction allegiance and ideology. One side is supposed to be in favour of repairing their relationship with the wind elementals and one side is seeking to be free of dependance.. or something like that
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>>584045192
Hot females*
You won't catch me playing a dwarf or orc female for example, they're putrid to look at.
But nelves, humans, blood elves and draenei? Ain't no fucking shot in HELL am I not picking female for them. Especially draenei.
Speaking of which, when the fuck are we getting them?
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>>584045228
all models are better in SD, the real SD not the fake and gay skinwalker SD we have right now
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>>584045228
wow what a dogshit list, Undead are the only good looking HD models.
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>>584045254
Im like this and look like this
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looks kewl
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>>584045019
She's a retarded gooner who was down bad for demon
She didnt destroy the world tho, just split it in half
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Just make totem buffs raid wide. Problem fixed
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>>584045228
undead look great with HD models, what the fuck? Human male HD models are the worst in the entire game and its not close. Male human HD models make you look either 60 years old or Mexican.
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>>584045414
just like the demon cocks split her in half lmao
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>>584038974
Just roleplay as the raped. Problem solved.
That way it's completely in character for you to get fucked by every other character you come across.
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horizontal progress fans, do you really want a new raid to only have like 1 or 2 upgrades and it's only because of slightly better itemization and each one is 0.01% dps upgrade?
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How does Plainsrunning work with Druid forms?
Do bear tanks build up speed as they run? I assume it doesn't stack with stuff like travel form.
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>>584045556
yes
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>kings (streamers) literally their game
>nobles (gold buyers) not talking about 1k timmy, i'm talking about the people who can buy 50k gold and don't blink an eye
>merchants (gold sellers) *rubs hands*
>plebs (you) background characters so the world feels alive for the mcs
do you already accepted your place in the new mmo social structure?
>>
>can't use mailbox
>takes like 5 minutes for a whisper or an invite
>can't create a character
>bags are all fucked up

How do they even manage to cause all of this shit? What's going on?
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The game is no where near ready for November 4th release. These devs can`t fix shit.
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>>584045556
I imagined it as "frost resist" gear were drops in "fire-themed" raids, and etc. And then tier pieces were different ways to play, potentially. I understand some vertical is probably necessary, but I think it's cool to squish those pieces every now and then.
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>>584045739
ITS A BETA
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What faction and server will you play in WoW: Forever?

https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4Po7kga
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4Po7kga
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4Po7kga
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>>584045829
alliance PvP, i want to spam bgs all day and im not waiting in a queue
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>>584045556
I think there's a lot of ways they could add new content without it necessarily being a major sheet DPS upgrade

>IE: New sword adds addition affect to Bloodrage
or
>IE: New axe makes whirlwind reduce its own cooldown and generate rage based on number of targets hit
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>>584045829

fuck off dataminer
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>>584045958
Isn't it mostly balanced in terms of population?
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>>584045731
It’s more like
>Kings (big streamers)
>plebs (everyone else)
You’re getting banned for buying or selling gold unless you’re a big streamer (1k+ viewers)
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>>584045829
Horde PvP. If I gotta wait a day or two to start playing that's fine with me. I anticipate them buffing Alliance racials anyway so might not be a problem, plus casuals love Alliance.
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>>584046035
just because the realm is 50-50 doesnt mean the same amount of people queue bg's, horde is the pvp faction and queue for bgs far more than alli, alli always get instant queues, horde have to wait
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>>584045821
>implying this kind of thing doesn't already and won't occur during live

Oh bless your lil' heart
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>>584045829
I'd play RP if it was RP-PvP.

>>584046125
In my personal experience Alliance tends to win more as well but that's probably because Horde is a... horde of players while Alliance has dedicated PvPers.
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>>584034328
Undead ret paladin
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>>584046235
horde will have access to paladin this time around, and paladin is probably going to be an absolute monster in pvp
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>>584046125
Would you rather have insta pops or win all your BGs as horde but have a 5 min queue?
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>>584045829
Can you make a Horde character on the PvP ruleset and a Alliance character on the RP ruleset or is it one mega server one faction?
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>>584046373
yeah
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>>584046235
Horde is just zugzug, we have no healers...like ever.
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>>584046373
Only PvP rulesets are faction locked
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alliance elf shamans fucking when
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https://www.twitch.tv/barny
https://www.twitch.tv/barny
https://www.twitch.tv/barny

bee part of the beekeeper
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>>584045829
where is ERPVP?
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>>584046349
in classic i had a 90% win rate solo queuing on alliance and got bitched at for breaking brackets just playing for fun, ill take my chances with the instant queues
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>>584045556
No, I want them to pretend it’s 2005 and take the game in a different direction. I completely disagree with retarded osrs faggots and their stupid game, and I disagree with the faggot devs who think horizontal progression is good or even possible in wow. They should just make new expansions and gradually ruin the game again and then start over in 15 years. I’m fine with that I’ve got nothing going on.
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>>584046426
surely some of the undead paladins will heal, right? Surely they're not all going to go ret with ZERO utility spells even on their action bar? Haha there's no way that's how its going to play out.... its exactly how its going to be
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>>584046548
is she doing locktober?
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>>584046548
buy an ad tranny kys
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>>584046426
horde will have some agp sissies because of sky elves this time, so maybe the healer issue wont be that bad
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>>584046706
he should do ropetober
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do we like barny's scarab lord adventures?
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threadly guild recruitment post
>20m
>PvP
>horde
>EST
>raid times TBD

progression focused, casuals are welcome too. we'll have a more laid-back 10m group on off-days.

<Remigration>

https://discord.gg/TAvXMh3zy

threadposter, can i get an inclusion?
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>>584046957
barny needs to be on my cock 24/7 (legally)
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>>584046548
does she hate asmon now? he seem to targeting olympus now, i thought they where cool?
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>>584046426
thats what happened most of the time, i played disc priest and horde were mostly a free win, anytime it looked like a hard fight it was faster to just let them 3 cap, and queue again because it was better honor/ph
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>>584046693
They probably wont even dispel sheep off you when you're right next to them, even if it kills them
>you dont understand, i am very good dps
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why is alex always so angry
is being a manlet really that bad
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>>584046957
Who or what is barny?
>>
Barny is more hardcore than 98% of you losers lmao , where's your scarab lord title? fkin casuals
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>>584046957
wheres the slop porn of him?
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>>584046345
>paladin is probably going to be an absolute monster in pvp
Why?
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Nelfie Discipline Priest.
Engineering and Enchanting.
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>>584046693
the horde shamans in classic were all on enhance or ele, its 100% happening again with paladins
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>>584047051
I don't know who she is but Asmon saw that clip where they bombed one of his members who was afk and said he always liked her
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>>584047172
windfury, but Paladins will be an absolute joke 1v1
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>>584047159
yeah must be so hard getting scarab lord as a streamer with simps and slaves at your command, really impressive
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>>584045556
I don't want a new raid to have ANY upgrades. Only sidegrades for different playstyles.
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>>584047247
pretty sure he was laughing because the scarab lord(male) had to 3v1 an afk player
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>>584045829
RP
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>>584047159
yeah but im a real woman and barny never will be
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>>584045254
Nope. Rolling Alliance Warrior is like asking to suffer
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>>584047456
you're fat while barny is hot af
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>>584047456
>im a real woman
Hahahahahahahahaha
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>>584047131
An actual transvestite
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>>584047456
you will never be a real woman either, agp tranny avatarfag
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>>584045829
Alliance RP
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>>584047421
Oh it's a tranny? I genuinely have no idea who that is just saw Asmon reacting to it but yeah, he was like this is the extent they have to go to measure up to one of his members who's not even at the computer lmao
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>>584031668
does this require a second program to function or does it work out of the box?
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>>584045556
I want them to add cool shit that opens up new specs & ways of playing your character. I hate that were all chasing the same fucking bis gear.
>>584047456
tits or stfu
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>>584047456
you are a fat disgusting indian eat shit
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>>584047747
>same bis gear
nigga we don't even know what gear there is from 50-60
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>>584047278
Alliance will also have that... as long as some players decide to sacrifice themselves and play a dwarf...
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So basically rogues are going to be the best at pvp from what I'm reading
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>>584043173
Absolutely fine, its not like you cant do decent dmg from away with your pet holding aggro, but anytime they push you theyre toast
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>>584045972
>>584047747
that's called borrowed power and it's retail
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>wpsg retards spamming
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>>584045556
Yeah, I want wow to stop replacing old content with each update making everything but the current thing completely irrelevant and making the game extremely tiny despite having tons of shit in the world.
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>>584047848
>So basically rogues are going to be the best at pvp from what I'm reading
Why?
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>>584047731
It just works I also thought you might need an API key to something but nah. Just get that player and the modules listed there that you want (quests, zones, books). Also there are some other languages available as well
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>>584042942
>mage hyper buffs
what buffs? i thought mage is still cucked
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>>584046957
i think it's very telling that it requires heavily edited videos just to show them as anything but an unlikeable autistic little gremlin.
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>>584047848
and pve
best 1v1 class and highest dps
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>>584045958
isnt it possible that bgs are shared between all rulesets?
>>
What are we playing now that Forever died
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>>584045556
we need gw2 wowcraft of wow of warcraft wow of warcraft edition
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>>584048043
bgs are shared across rulesets.
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>>584048043
they are
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>>584048043
they are, it doesnt change the fact horde queues for bgs far more than alliance
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>>584045556
I want them to have NO upgrades
Just sidegrades that open up other playstyles
aka give me a set that lets me ignore powershifting/shifting power and just let me spam in cat form
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>>584048132
>>584048174
>>584048196
so you can just roll pve if you dont want wpvp and still get insta bg queues
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>>584048196
they will add horde vs horde queues after we get +2 hour queues

alliance is literally dead this time
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>>584047848
Rogue and Mage were always the best in Vanilla pvp
Although in Forever I think Hunter will be #1
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I have heard that Horde got basically fuck all in terms of new and interesting questing. No new level routes, just the same old routes we've been doing over and over now.

Starting to wonder if it's even worth playing or if it's just tricking people into thinking it's something new but it'll basically be 95% classic...but with like 1-2 added 'collect 12 harpie asses' quests that go NOWHERE into the mix.

When I heard we were getting new quests, I expected them to branch off into lore rich quest chains. Like the silithid stuff. You literally start learning about them from the crossroads as they've spread as far as the sudden barrens, then more quests later on in Shimmering Flats, then Tanaris, then Ungoro, then finally Silithus.

It's a fucking wonderfully rich line of quests.
Every NEW quest I've seen goes nowhere. They're all one off things, they have no effort to expand the lore in them, they're just busywork for busywork sake.
So what is even the point?
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>>584048290
yeah you can
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>>584034563
questing is best experinced alone until you either get in over your head and someone savs you, or someone you see gets in over their head and you save them

then you say thanks and join up to fight the common foe together
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>>584048290
ye
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>>584043582
>https://files.catbox.moe/tfzh93.png
>>584040563
>https://files.catbox.moe/agiy9v.png


I bow down to cunny
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>>584048312
>why isn't every quest some grand epic retail storyline that rewards us with a legendary item

we haven't even seen 40+ where the game REALLY needed new quests.
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>>584048094
Bro? This is a general for hype astroturfing. None of us are real. Come back after launch when everything burns out.
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>>584048348
>>584048374
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>>584048000
Ice lance and FoF makes mage just retarded and even the mage council agrees that ice lance should be straight up removed.
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>>584047798
Yeah I know that. Point is there should be multiple bis
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>>584048312
Well as you can see here >>584023972 it's quintessential to the classic experience
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>>584048094
Maplestory classic
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>>584048582
>pay 30 dollars for the basic package
>don't even get access to the game
LOL, fuck Nexon. You are an insect and deserve to be raped.
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>>584048094
Order of the Sinking Star
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>>584048312
Leveling is to be suffered though not enjoyed.
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>>584048312
Yeah bro where are my legendary quests at lvl fucking 30?? Do you clowns even read the shit you're typing, vanilla has never had problems with the early lvls, It's 40+ where you start to get the really empty zones and no quests, in fact most of the end game zones like Azshara and Silithus were almost completely unfinished.
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>>584048094
wardogs next week till forever release, forever hype month 1, wsg over xmas month 2, then quit because its gay
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>>584047980
>he doesn't know
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goddamn creating a character takes ages now
took me like 10 tries
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>>584023972
Hordies need a COOL desert with COOL huts
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>>584048312
>I have heard that Horde got basically fuck all in terms of new and interesting questing.
Actually in the spirit of vanilla
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>>584043021
Because tanking and playing dps Warrior are radically different experiences and the vast majority of Warriors were there for the mongo dps endgame and resented tanking, which is why they only started doing it when we let them do it with a 2h. Before people realized that was possible and optimal there were never Warrior tanks. So I’m short theyre half warriors, pretenders, and they should just play rogue.
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>>584048312
Which reddit did you copy this post from?
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>>584048094
t. retail tranny
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>>584048094
retail
>>
Guys, what game do I play that will take me around 25 days to finish?
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>>584048094
us retail chads will eventually go back to retail when forever falls...
it is known
it happened with classic
it happened with era
retail bvllsz always wvn
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>>584049058
>>584048670
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>>584049112
>GOONING FAPPING CHUDGOYCLIQUE MAKE A FOID SHAKE
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>>584049058
World of Warcraft forever when it launches in 25 days
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when voting for content happens im going to vote for the worst possible thing then head back to retail
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>>584049124
>shitty puzzle game
No thanks
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>>584049317
That's classic players for you kek
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>>584049112
>consume product
>get excited for next product
retarded mentality.
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>>584043082
I mean if you don't care about endgame or higher level dungeons it's fine.
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>>584049112
retail has been failing for over 10 years
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>>584048803
>blue
Shit taste
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>>584048787
>>he doesn't know
I don't.
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>>584034103
If I wanted WoW with vertical progression I'd play retail
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>>584049421
This is what we are in this world of warcraft for after all
>>
Why did blizzard give each race specifically ONE animation for 1H/2H attacks each? It looks goofy using the same animation over and over again, especially when spamming sunder armor.
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short
ear
elves
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I lost all respect for asmon , why the fuck this fag makes the greatest guild ever to then announcing going on a pve server like a cuckfuck
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>>584049710
dont fit at all with the long eyebrows
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>>584049738
be funny if it was a bait and switch
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>>584034103
retail still exists for people who want vertical progression
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>>584049738
He would be literally perma camped on pvp server, any streamer going pvp is retarded
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>>584049738
I hope he goes to the RP server to make the RPtroonies miserable
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>>584049738
World PvP ever so often would be fun but if you're a big streamer every time you are in the game is a World PvP event which would just be too chaotic
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>>584033734
If things don't become outdated there's not reason for me to get new things.
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>>584049738
I think him killing his mom is probably a little worse then playing on a pve server.
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>>584050007
Unfortunately nublizz devs are objectively not skilled enough to pull off Horizontal Progression. All they know is NUMBERS GO UP NOW from rotting their brains on retail for well over a decade
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i haven't really been paying attention and want to be mostly surprised for release but what the fuck is this power creep i'm seeing in clips? mages ice lancing people to death in 1 global? warriors pulling like 7 mobs and soloing them? the whole point of classic is to be a slow clunky build up of your character, what are we doing?
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>>584050201
But would there be other than numbers go up I don't get it
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>>584049738
because he kept getting layered into a full horde stack solo
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>>584050205
Nigger people are capped at 30 and spending weeks min maxxing their characters, it's completely irrelevant
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>>584026420
make dwarves goonable

or

give us sky elf/night elf/high elf shamans
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>>584050280
Different ways to make number go up
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>>584050205
>the whole point of classic is to be a slow clunky build up of your character
Still is. Classic is down the hall and then left. This is Forever bro.
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>>584048000
Theyre hitting for 400+ on multiplle instamt casts what ya think
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>>584049738
Of course he is going PvE, he's a fucking pussy and complete dogshit at WPvP. To be honest he's dogshit at WoW in general and has coasted on just having "knowledge" of the game after having played it for 20 years.
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>>584049738
Just wanted you to know that I couldn't be happier about this
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i look like this irl
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Why are gnome mages always the chosen by Blizzard? They are the whiniest bitchesin this game and what's worse is they always get their way.
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new thread
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>>584050473
Male?
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>>584050473
ok abdul sure
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>>584050480
Gnomes are based af
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>>584050280
Gear that changes how your character plays. It's such a ludicrously simple concept that Blizzard is completely unable to figure it out
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>>584049885
A bunch of streamers are in PVP right now for the tourney. The only difference is that none of them are cheerleading for Israel.
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>>584050473
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>>584050571
But what if I like the way my character plays and just want to do bigger numbers?
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>>584050201
GW2 had crazy player retention at max level, sure there's no monthly fee but I think a lot of it has to do with WVW.
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>>584048516
>ice lance should be straight up removed
kys
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>>584050654
Good news you reached the peak
Like how you did when Naxx came out and you got your Atiesh
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>>584050205
Gold was too easy to get with professions and the AH was intensely healthy and it took a while for it to reflect the gold economy, people jumped ahead with itemization fairly early on. On top of that everyone is geared to the gills, nearly everyone is running around in full BiS. Even further than that, a bunch of changes to the talents (including giving everyone 16 legacy points) means that people are using abilities that only used to be available to them mid to late game.
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>>584050372
the point is to keep it similar to classic and improve on it not just turn it into retail, not surprised in the slightest that blizzard and their retarded drones will ruin classic+ before it's even released
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>asmon is still not 30
lol
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>>584050830
thanks for an actual answer
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>>584050968
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Remember that before you quit give all your gold to your favourite streamer :)
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>>584050950
hes 36 actually
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I uh... Honestly wouldn't mind Cata style rotations for Forever
Demo Lock Cata was pure kino
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>>584050205
I think its fine, especially with crafted gear. There's a trade off in that you have to spend time to go level up professions instead of just grinding out gear. Making professions really impactful early is great IMO.
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stop worrying about vertical progression
anyone with half a brain realizes Forever had a 6 month lifespan max it literally does not matter
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>>584051065
It needs to last me until GW3...
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>>584050571
>you don’t get it it changes how your character plays!
>oh that’s cool so what set are ya gonna use then
>the optimal meta one of course
Oh wow that’s so different
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>>584046957
lol
I'd honestly kill myself if I looked like this
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>>584051825
>what is balance
blackest gorilla nigger post ITT. congratulations
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>>584051849
Fuck marry kill
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>>584052057
ew
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>>584051960
Haha faggot
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>>584052164
Ew is not one of the choices, sweetie
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>>584052057
kill all 3
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having a femboy suck you off is best thing that ever happened to me
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>>584052487
Hows femboy sucking me off the best thing thats happened to you
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>>584052668
Some people just like to watch.
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>>584024527
I'd be happy with all of these except Illusionist, Rune Master, Bard and Monk. Witch better be Witch Doctor and not the gay BFA witch too
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>>584045556
>new raid has 0 upgrades
People run it a few times then stop showing up
>new raid has upgrades for all slots
In 2 years they'll need to do a full reset as if it was an expansion to correct the power creep
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>>584023972
Horde are the most whiny entitled losers I've ever seen
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>>584053974
>>new raid has 0 upgrades
>People run it to get their new set so they have another playstyle that will excel at different things in their pocket
FTFY
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>>584031078
Literally just get a healer bud to help you learn
Do pvp
Know what your abilities do
Use them
There are also online guides
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>>584050205
This isn't classic. It's retail-
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>>584047662
Barny beekeeper is a tranny yes
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>>584047456
Are you?
I struggle to believe it. But its not impossible. I've seen many nude femanon pics with timestamps
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There is no such a thing as horizontal progression unless you are some cosmetics loving cuck
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>>584054209
bro nobody likes these games, nobody plays them. GW2 has like 25k active users. if horizontal progression like this was such the draw that you think it is, it would have been ten times more successful than it was. these games are designed for dads with 45 seconds of playtime a week, not the classic wow audience, forever would be do a if blizzard did this and they know it



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