>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins on November 4th.>Previous Thread >>584023646
sex with nora
>not the hanging troon op picShant be participatingSomeone else bake the real thread
Cum take a seat.
fix spriest
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>584050968sex with harpies
>>584051206c u... forever!
while leveling paladin do you just equip a 2hander and go to town, or can you equip a shield with redoubt and shield spec and do enough damage with your spells/abilities since you have the mana regen?
OH MY HECCIN WHOLESOMERINO CHUNGUSINO A HECCIN OGRE UIN HECCIN BOLDOROK HAS A HECCIN LITTLE OINKER NAMED SNORT HOW HECCIN CUTIE!!!!11 I AM SO GLAD WOW IS NOW HECCIN WHOLESOMERINO!!!!111
>>584051206>spends 90% of his stream crying about how bad blizzard and wow forever is while giving them money to play test a beta while the mmo he was shilling for nearly a year just releasedHe's unironically dumber than a rock and painfully unaware.
>>584050968Harpy love
>Undead Paladin (main, will play all 3 roles don't worry)>Orc Warrior alt>PvP serverYep, its gaming time in a few weeks
>>584051315who does this
>>584051315you're worse than they are
good luck bro
>>584051294right now 2h paladin is better for everything besides healing.
>>584051315I dont think this or say this
>>584051315I say all of this
>>584051358noses aren't big enough
>>584051091sunstrider?
>>584051369
Rogue is overrated desu. Mage is the new hotness
>>584051549>>584051315you're getting mad at shit you're making up in your own head again
>the trannies are hereIncrease gatekeeping NYOW
the ultimate problem with forever is that unlike with sod they're making a chudgame but dont want it to be a chudgame (like classic is)
>>584051369>>584051687ywnbaw
Vertical scaling is necessary to keep the game alive. With no powercreep there's no reason to keep playing.
>>584051843
GIVE ALLIANCESKYELFSHAMANS
>forever is in danger of becoming too easy because they are removing friction>there is too much QOL>let's make an addon to help with seal twisting using AIall these people are fucking frauds
>>584051843somewhat agree but cosmetics will always be a big driver for people. Most people will probably be playing with transmog on, so people will always want to chase tmog items. I think some vertical progression is fine, but use the OSRS model where its very slow and deliberate.
Where are alliance's sexy shaman races?
let's finna be real: you want a wow gf like this.
>>584051965Why the fuck do you need an addon for that now its actually literally retardproof now with Twist of Light I dont understand are people actually this retarded I don't want to believe that people are actually this retarded no functioning human can be this retarded
>>584052065fem troll, orc, skelf exists
>>584051843I agree and with raids being 10/20 now there should be no reason on paper to add catchup mechanics since it shouldn't be hard at all to do runs for old content to get geared for the new content
>>584052093its just engagement farming
I BiS'd 2 lvl 30s and decided I'd go try Classic again. I quickly realized that I was having more fun playing classic on a nearly empty private server. Met some mage and ran around with him for a couple of hours and barely made any progress and it was more fun than the 40 odd hours I wasted on forever.
>>584052076I would unironically be fine with her yeah
If Skyborne are High Elf exiles why not just rename the Alliance ones High Elves and keep the Skyborne name for Horde
>>584052263>her
>>584052263
>>584051965I can't wait for all the slop vibecoded addons to turn into an incestuous ouroboros of shit because there's no way to actually fix the code so if things are broken they will just have the AI "make a new one" with it's own problems compounded on top of the old one.
>>584052204sounds like a psychological issue, anon
genpop catching on
>>584052296Oh I'm sorry, am I supposed to know who that is? It's not just some random skank from a con?
>>584052336No it doesn't retard
>>584052447Alex...
>>584052447yes it does
Turtle was better btwThis shit's DoA
>>584052596dead before arrival
>>584052596Shenna please fucking kill yourself and take that german simp with you
>>584052415Every female posted here is a man, anon. That’s something you need to realize now.
>>584052580No it doesn't you ugly troon you're just used to living your life under the looming shadow of therapy speak
>>584052596yeah with the 1k players it had
>>584051375Isnt staff of jordan a level 35 item or something, people wont even be able to use it
>>584052596Socks added to forever when
>>584052754there are people that still think we get to keep these characters going into launch
>>584052725uh oh melty
>>584052797Canonically legs don’t sweat in Azeroth
>>584052725She's gone, Alex... Shenna isn't coming back...
Reminder.
>>584052931I don't know who that is and you look retarded imagining that you're talking to them
>>584052065Send nelf sluts to the barrens and they can probably figure something out
alex is mad
>>584052076linda yea, I 'd put a baby in her
That faggot /wowg/ parasite futafaggot nigger janny posted it's avatar in the last threadhow many years has it been with your refusing to do your job and shitting up these generals with your faggot kind, a decade or more I'd saywhat a pathetic faggot retard you are
>25 days to go>thread dead except for /wpsg/ namefags talking about themselves *coughs up blood*
>>584053219+fat retards spamming AI slop
>>584051965Content creators should all be put in prison and streaming should be illegal, these people are a pestilence on society
why do these retoilet players refuse to join groups
>>584053215post your wow forever char
>>584053351Yes but video games should also be illegal, and I’m not ready for a good world yet.
FUCK FUCK FUCKSo I trolled trade chat for like 2 hours mainly about politics and other extremely unhinged shit.I didn't realise, you can actually report people in the beta now. FUCKKKKKKKKK.What happens if you said extreme text chat stuff?Revoke beta access?3 day ban?Perm ban???
>>584052853On the other hand you might as well buy it if you have the money. Just to show it off.
So is we having late 20's failtroon wageslave discord faggot hours?
>>584053402Why do you think we should group if we're not doing a dungeon
How comfortably can bear tank do WC at level 18? Debating if I should run it now or wait another level or two.
>>584053458Dead sperg walking
Someone said that taking demonic pact and sacrificing the felhunter would actually heal a lot more than siphon life. Is that true?If so, how does this look for a pvp build?
>>584053503>is weit's disgusting SEApag hours too evidently
>>584053458What did you say anon
>Is we Brown
>>584053458You're probably good I was in the Mun Morogh general telling some guy I was sorry he got raped as a child and calling people faggots and I'm still good a couple days later.
>>584053042do you have the full folder. anyone pls
threadly guild recruitment post>20m>PvP>horde>EST>raid times TBDprogression focused, casuals are welcome too. we'll have a more laid-back 10m group on off-days.<Remigration>https://discord.gg/TAvXMh3zythreadposter, can i get an inclusion?
>>584053590>>584053665Zoomers are the real cancer.
>>584053458>I didn't realise, you can actually report people in the beta now.are you a complete fucking moron?
>>584053761based name
>>584052065Whats wrong, cant stand the sight of a strong dwarven woman?
>>584053761Remigration as horde doesn't make sense desu
>>584053665>>584053590Did I strike a nerve
>>584053219Once the game is out there's no more reason to be here
>>584053761Petitioning for noon EST raid times if this is a true deadbeat neet guild and not a bunch of broken employed pretenders
>>584053838Yeah, I mean look at that skin cancer she has
Is we getting WoW token?
>>584053963Absolutely
>>5840539636 months in yes.
is we be getting dem flying mount mon
is we finna get warmode?
Is they going to catch on anytime soon?
>>584053761Damn I wanna play alliance
we heckin finna get china bears kupo doebeitalthough?
>>584053781go check. you can report people now. before you couldn't it would give an error.
>>584052596turtle troons are mentally ill
>>584053753https://mega.nz/folder/VqIARLLL#kpOC8ed3NG47e8oqjR7sZwHer cuck hasn't been updating it though
>kil'jaeden is still alive>draenei are still out there>hyjal blue man still looks like a draenei
>>584053719dwarves and gnomes have a high tolerance for bantztry that shit in elwynn and you're dead in a day
>>584053458You need to be more subtle retard
qrd on the class changes?
>>584054209You really think the sets are going to be good? Recklessness is a 30min cd btw.
Alliance needs shamans.Elf shamans.
>>584053590Dont be mean
>>584054536what piece of MC gear did a druid take from you bro
Never played warlock is it fun?
>>584051843Play Retail or Classic. That is still there for you.
>new Ogre clan in Riverglades with capital city for "Horde to build a relationship with"Bros... Our time is coming
>>584054738Give Alliance Skyborne Shaman and Horde Skyborne Paladin.>B-But the lore!LOL
>>584051294Right now aoe prot paladin with a 1h/shield is better for everything except healing
I see now that we is in fact having late 20's failtroon wageslave discord faggot hours. Good luck on monday everyone.
if this was made today savix and pilav would be cancelled https://youtu.be/9DbpLj-Rfxk?t=582
>>584054885>play classicFunny that you say this. If you want classic you can just go there is the perfect game for you called classic.
>>584054885so where is classic with new content then
>>584054928Honestly at this point they should just pretend the Skyborne are what's left of the High Elves and give them everything Helves would have had. They are the biggest fumble I've seen in years
vertical progression is just so peak
>>584054865Tanking as one in SoD was fun
>>584054928This would be a good option.But I think Aggrend-sama wants to undead paladins have the spotlight.
>>584055082hmmi dont agree
>>584053425I'm not an avatarfaggot, nigger cocksucker
>>584054572I hadn't considered this
>>584054994>Funny that you say this. If you want classic you can just go there is the perfect game for you called classic.?? I responded to someone wanting vertical progression (classic/retail).>>584055041You either get horizontal progression and new content in Azeroth (Forever) or you get classic and no content (take your pick of whatever version of "classic" Blizzard is letting you play).
>>584055082Vertical progression with numbers going bigger is kino yep
>fucking around and made a druid alt >running around Teldrassil doing druid shit>run to quest area where somebody else gets there at the same time and they invite me>they run ahead ignoring the quest mobs and then kick me from the party????
vertical progression: 12 mil subshorizontal progression: f2p platformer slopfest filled with browns
until the 4th should I resub to osrs and start a comfy low-level ironman or resub to xiv and jork it to catgirls
>>584055298I’ll just play forever until it also fails and then play the next f r e s h like always.
>>584055382It depends on if you're a tranny or not
>>584055358May we see these sub numbers
>>584055298but wowf is going to be vertical. i think the devs confused osrs slow vertical for horizontal
idc about forever anymore I'm playing ms classic
>>584054715none of these sets are what we are getting, they told us directly these were just placeholders from 8months ago
>>584055298>?? I responded to someone wanting vertical progression (classic/retail).Uhh I don't know I'm not quite sober right now lmao
>>584053835yes>>584053942i would if i could. too many /vg/ posters are wagies. but that is okay.>>584053842>>584054208i hate that the horde has become third-world and tranny coded
>>584055486osrs vertical is on such a long timescale it appears horizontalgoing from a fresh account to say inferno is far longer than anything in wow has ever been
>>584055429based
guyshe're me out.wow roguelikeremove most of the gamethe game functions the same way it normally does, but it's almost exclusively just dungeons/raids with roguelite/like crap
>>584055486I think the same, they frequently say things that they think sound good (“Warrior is a hybrid”) but upon reflection these statements are meaningless or insane.
>>584055586>has become third-world and tranny codedit always was
>>584055671If you scale everything so that you can do it solo I'm in.
>>584055671Make it an isometric deckbuilding metroidvania roguelike and you've got gold
>>584055671This is just hardcore
>we should buff hybrid damageYay this is the best>maybe we should also buff the other classes utility to keep them competitive in pvpNoooo omg, you can't do that. Other people aren't allowed to have fun too
>>584055586>I would if I could As long as I know you’re spiritually with me, that’s enough. I will join.
Blizzard is making a third WoW product with WoW Forever. Classic will continue because they get get to make money with barely any cost there. Retail will continue otherwise there may be fat troon mass suicide. WoW Forever is Microsoft telling Blizzard to make some fucking money and put the dilator down. You don't need to play this shit if you prefer any other iteration of the game because it's right there for you still.
>>584055839why are you typing like this?
Are mail and smelting forges broke right now?
>>584055839the utility warriors bring is the pocket healer with them
>>584053583right now siphon life is shit and not worth the mana cost so people expect it to be shit forever which will probably be true
wat da ogre doin?
>>584055873so its a world of warcraft for people who dont like world of warcraft? makes sense
>>584055873Yea, it's going to be euphoric when all the cancer polluting Forever fuck off back to their respective games>fotm e-daddy cocksuckers>retailtrannies>#NOCHANGES classic dadsEvery single one needs to fuck off
I think it would be really cool if the racial weapon traits let you use those weapons regardless of your class. Realistically it would change almost nothing, you would get Dwarf Hunters using maces and Human Priests using Swords. Also I guess Orc Mages and Locks could use axes and steal Elemental Shaman Weapons.I think it'd just be really neat and would make sense.
>>584055915There's a bunch of issues. Whispers and party invites are also taking like 5 minutes to go through again.
>>584056081I like the retail trannies they seem nice?
>>584056098The devs mentioned the weapon racials in the last podcast and how they may be getting removed/changed next patch.
>>584054429
>>584056098I agree. TWoW did something cool with nelf priests being able to use bows. They should do that in Forever too.
>>584056181yes we know your failed men in dresses discord has been raiding the thread because the hanging tranny OP pic triggered the fuck out of you kek
>>584056081All of those people are who this is aimed at.
>>584056103Yeah haha... I'm not declining all your invites to group up and do quests in the overworld.. it's just lagging h-haha..
>>584056286Nah forever will probably be fine without it
so lady prestor and bolvar were definitely banging, right?
>>584056098This but give back gun for the dwarf racial
>>584056370Your gay joke would be funny if it wasn't guildies standing right in front of me complaining that the dogshit game isn't working properly. It's a beta that's almost over anyways so not a big deal.
>>584056181What's that in the bottom right of that image? Seems like something cryptic
>>584056324poked a delusional one
>>584053448>I'd be happy with all of these except Illusionist, Rune Master, Bard and Monk. Witch better be Witch Doctor and not the gay BFA witch toopicrel is supposedly what the character survey actually said.Witches would focus on Blood and Shadow magic and spend health for some of their spells.
>>584056098>>584056432>dwarfs get gun racial>dwarf priest with gunwant
kinda crazy how Barny was married to a woman age 16 before finally trooning out.
I can't wait to play Forever with my friends! It's going to be so much fun hehehe yaaaaay!!! I'm gonna play undead warlock!!!
Next WoW iteration should be a single player experience with bots so I don't have to play with others anymore.
>>584056639provide proofs
>>584056560Don’t need new classes, just need Warrior buffs. Please understand
>>584056560Tinker, bard and necromancer are all kino we need those
>>584056649I wish I had friends to play with.....hope you have fun....
>>584056681He was engaged when he was 16 (when he was known as Keyori) to another youtuber called JayneeWasTaken (aged 21).
>>584056768Same anon the notion seems kinda crazy>>584056649Well still have fun bwo...
>>584056778I don't know who these people are and I don't care about this at all. You are also less of a person than me for caring about this.
>>584056768>>584056838if you roll on horde pvp let's do some dungeons together anons
>>584056775>if meme is so good why no meme2Good one anon
>>584056768Come join Remigration and make forever friends. They’re calling it the best /wowfg/ guild in history, stacked roster.
>>584056768w-what server are you on.
>>584056749sailor girls as lolis when?
>>584056078no, that's some retarded thing that you've come up with.
>>584055698i played from vanilla-mop and horde used to be very racist. the trannies and diaperfurs were on the alliance side>>584055864thank you brother. if only threadposter-senpai would notice me
dead thread dead game. back to private servers
Are all /wowfg/ guilds for neets?
>>584056768I see you fell for my loneliness bait please join my tranny discord and guild and show us your butthole or we're going to blackmail you
>>584056895>provide proof>Umm achtuuually i dun careSpastic much?
>>584056778It sounds like an online relationship taken too far, which is in fact quite common for teenagers. Hardly drama worth mentioning especially considering it’s already a schizophrenic tranny
>>584056985but that guys telling me to go play retail or classic if i like those games and not forever
>>584056778Don't tell me this retard actually was engaged and still trooned out?!
>>584057079I have no idea what you're talking about and I care even less about whatever you're communicating than I did previously
>>584057020Don’t take it personally I think it’s two spergs from /wpsg/ fighting over the bake, they probably never read the thread
>>584057226Unfathomably based. Behead all e-celeb worshipping trannies
>>584056914thank you sir. working on it :)
>This causes acne covered geeks to have a mental breakdown Why do Gnomes mind break so many people?
>>584057171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGCqDIsLHc>>584057284no ones worshipping anyone, If anything im dunking on the troon.
havent made it to lvl 25 evenbeen alting aroundanyone else stopped playing and waiting for relase?
>>584057406because they make perfect lolis for erp
Do you guys have any recommendations for trans / femboy streamers that stream wow forever and they are actually good at the game???
>>584057501i will just play with mine and he will be in booty shorts all time and he will have magic wand placed which i will control to see how long he lasts
>>584057501sodapoppin is a gay femboy
>>584056376I'm sure it'll be fine it's just an interesting idea anon.
>>584057429Yeah gonna wait for release then no life it until Blizzard gives another blaring red flag like the gay blue elves, in which case I will retreat back to BC servers and watch Forever quietly die
Why are the private server trannies so powerful?
There is no such a thing as horizontal progression unless you are some cosmetics loving cuck
>>584057429Yeah I have a 23 shaman and 21 priest. I'm still doing other alts but I won't go above 20 at most because it feels like everything I achieve with them is a waste. Like if I get a rare drop what does it matter it gets wiped anyway
>>584057429Yeah I only got to like level 18 on my mage then around 10 on various other classes until I found what I liked. Then I refunded the game and just waiting for release now
>>584056604>dwarf priest infuses healing incantations into bullets>can heal party members by shooting them
>>584056749>>584056760I want all of them, but mostly Tinker, Necro, and Monk.Still pissed they won't give us Spellbreakers so another class can wear Int Plate.
so what was the reasoning behind nerfing chain lightning into unusability while simultaneously making fire nova one of the strongest aoes in the game
>You get 2 Ranged AP per agility>you get 1 ap per agility....Why?
>>584057784>Yeah gonna wait for release then no life it until Blizzard gives another blaring red flag like the gay blue elves, in which case I will retreat back to BC servers and watch Forever quietly die>quietlyAre you an LLM?
cant wait for people to realize a dot crit at 60 will take a quarter to a third of your health per tick
>>584058364because melee agi can use str too
>>584058364Only hunters get 2ap per agi. Everyone else gets 1.
>high elf priest was a unit in WC3>high elves cant be priests in WoW
>>584058365No, I'm articulate. I know that's difficult for your little brown head to comprehend
>>584058364Does int give spell power?
>>584058519they're not high elves
>>584058519>a culture that has lived a shamanistic life for 10000 years or whatever has abandoned traditional priesthood in favor of druidism and ancestor spirit worship
>>584058314I'm not sure there was any intention, they might just be clueless.They lowered the base cast time of lightning bolt and chainn lightning by 0.5s by then they made the talent be only -0.5 instead of -1.0. The issue is that it nerfs the spells a lot for elemental shamans. But I'm not sure if they even thought of this. Because now the numbers are just horrible but I can't imagine they intended to nerf the spec.
>>584058505...anon, pls don't forget us, everyone else does.
>>584054473Eredar are not Draenei. That was, in fact, the gayest retcon they've ever done. Broken or nothing!
>>584058682sorry you were in stealth
>>584056604Would be very, very, kino.
>>584058587the intro cutscene quite literally calls them high elves, as does a bunch of their NPCs
>>584058475Ohh that makes more sense>>584058505No, I'm Rogue, I get 2 ranged AP per Agi>>584058542Not for Rogue at least
>>584058640Frankly, it was odd for Nightborne to be priests, as they completely abandoned worship of Elune as well.
>>584058815hmmm nope, not high elves
>>584057501TowelieeI know I knowHe might not look the partBut hear me out, only the most brainbroken sissy faggots could keep playing retail and while Toweliee might not look the part on the outside, inside he's spiritually exactly what you are looking for, plus getting a healthy reality check of what that type of person actually looks like or will look like in real life would be an extremely health experience for youRUSSIA FAGGOT STRONK
>>584058815None of the skyborn refer to themselves as high elves. Tyrande doesn't either. The other racial leaders do because they aren't really understanding the difference.
>>584057501soda
>americans wake up>thread filled with tranny bullshit
Just checked /wowg/ and their thread has been up for over 26 hours. What went wrong?
>>584051187spriest has ALWAYS been dogshit before shadow form at level 40. Working as intended
>>584058640I could buy this if alliance could be shamans, but evidently those shamanistic roots aren't important enough that a minor disagreement over the span of what is realistically a few days of in-universe time results in them completely giving that up.
>>584059168To be fair, and I haven't actually played the beta myself so correct me if I'm wrong but the shamanistic Skelves and the druidic Skelves are basically schism'd so the shamans jumped horde side out of common cause.
>>584051342There's an entire genre of cryboomer youtube channel like this that gets tons of traffic ie nerdrotic, critical drinker, heelvsbabyface etc
someone with a reddit account please complain that raids releasing 5 weeks after release is way too soon for 90% of the player base. People will not be able to enjoy their experience if they feel rushed to get to 60. >but no ones forcing you to raid immediately!human nature compels people to feel left out if they are not keeping up.
>>584059149we're all here once forever ends we vill return to retail
>>584054536>>584057349>>584056775Big fan of these, do more
>>584059149Forever decimated every other version of WoW
watch them sneakily increase the wow sub to 20 bucks soon
>>584059164Shadowform should be a baseline ability, it's not like the healer specs would use it
>>584059373even if you play a slow as fuck class and sightsee lots it's not hard to get to 60 in 5 weeks it's not even 8 hours a day
>>584059373I don't care, I'll be able to raid
i never played pally but now i wanna play pally.how mechanically compelling is it compared to woyer? i normally always tank. i don't wanna go drood. but pally might be fun to switch it up. thoughts?
>>584059373It shouldn't take longer than 2-3 weeks to hit 60 even if you are going at a casual speed
>>584059051So the marketing team and intro cinematic calling them high elves aren't aware either?
The Whitemane slop spammer has two artist accounts on rule 34 with over TWELVE THOUSAND picture postsHOLY SHIT we got one of the most prolific spammers to ever exist in our presence Can you imagine what this guy's life must be, he never leaves his computer to even eat or shitI bet his post count on the official wow forums puts his slop spam count to shame
>>584060171u gotta respect lil nigga's hustle
>>584059585Tauren does actually look fun, I was very against the idea of playing horde initially, and I still kind of am. But I could get on board with the idea of playing Tauren and just never going to Orgrimmar. Thunder Bluff is a comfy place
>>584060171That's really cool if true
>>584060171Jesus...... Whats his name?
uhoh
>>584060171TWELVE THOUSAND eachftfy
>>584059778I'd say paladin and warrior press a similar amount of buttons overall now. Both don't really have access to their later juicier talents obviously but paladin is improved a lot compared to Classic or even TBC. Mechanically paladin is more about using the plethora of utility you have access to and knowing when to use each one.
>>584060282futarushsultryspark
>>584059051>The other racial leaders do because they aren't really understanding the difference.They were obviously going to be High Elves originally and Blizz lazily changed it last minute.
>>584060486nice. gonna make a sizeable stash to repost here now ;) and unlike other retards i have zero issues ban evading
if blizzard are so woke why wont they add body type 3
>>584060276I used to hate the idea of playing Horde but after playing both I just think Horde is more fun. Alliance is full of literal children and 'crusader LARPer' types.
so when are we getting goblins? my gf refuses to play anything else.
>>584060882brown gnome is pretty close
>>584060608just post them in catbox links and you'll be fine lol
>>584060486Thanks. He's got good taste and vidyan and animu
>>584060320Nobody would be complaining about any of this shit if it wasn't for the streamer tournament. God forbid a class other than hunter gets to hit hard at low levels.
>>584060882>gfLeave.
>>584060171thats cute but no i dont have an account anywhere except my old catbox dump
>>584060330no its not each because most pictures are tagged with both
Am I thinking nelf spriest, nelf hunter gnome rogue, or gnome mage?
>>584061198>>584061214lol
>>584059402
>>584060171>went to check>style isn't the same at allwhat are you basing this off of?
>>584060171do you think the anons posting noname55 stuff is actually noname55 too bro?
>>584059373>blizzard release an ever more casual version of wow>excited to just chill leveling and do all the new shit >my guild is already planning leveling up ASAP like retail trannies for the first raidit's so sad
>>584061297I personally would not roll hunter. They're everywhere. Competition for raid slots will be heavy and they don't do anything special. I auspect major nerfs for them after launch too
>>584061325>thought bubbles
what are you gonna do when the beta stop, play aion 2 or genshin?
>>584060731>not like us MATURE gamersYou people are more annoying than both groups
>and just like that all the priests that were dueling outside SW are gone
>>584061607rub on my tube until i bus
nelf feet
>>584061607...play the game and not any of that chinkshit? lol
>>584061691your already doing that
>>584061325Shifting Power really is the dumbest change they've made on beta so far. There was nothing wrong with Tigers Fury. The devs are desperately trying to keep in these dogshit unintended playstyle from classic like powershifting and seal twisting despite less than 1% of the people who played those classes actually enjoying them.
>>584061704billions of orc sperm has died between those toes...
>>584061618no its just I don't want to play with children or 28 year old NEETS that think Orcs = Muslims/Black People and soft RP their male human blonde paladin crusader. I just like to play with normal people and historically Horde has more of those. This is going back to the early days of WoW too, its always been this way.
Is hunter good for a noob? I wanna be good at pvp
>>584061793akshully if they made the playstyle more approachable people would play it and then you'd have more ways to play which is cool
>>584061607play star citizen for a while
>>584062112Stop being a noob if you want to be good at PvP.
We should make a no raid guild where you get booted if you're ever found to be in a raid. That shit was never what wow should be about.
>>584061793sure, but make sure you let them know on channels they are aware of. bitching on 4chan isnt going get your point seen or even recognized.
>>584061517judging by the triggered responses, possibly
>>584062228The only way devs change something is if a streamer complains about it. So unless Soda is bringing up these issues then they won't be getting changed.
>>584061793who would win?Ferocity 5/5 - You gain an extra 5 energy per second.result: +300 extra energy per minute.Shifting Power - BRO PRESS THIS FUCKIN HECKIN BUTTON THAT LIKE DOES THIS THING WHERE U GO INTO SAVAGE ROAR BLUE THING MODE AND GAIN 40 ENERGY EVERY 8 SECONDS BUT YOU GOTTA 6 TALENT POINTS AND GIVE UP TIGER'S FURY AND TOTALLY DESTROY THE CLASSES MELEE PVP SPEC!!!! XDDD QUIRK CHUNGUS!!!result: +300 extra energy per minute.tired of this shit.
>>584061607ms classic
>>584062320cuck mentality.
>>584061791>>584061325This is epic
reminder to have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOW OR ELSE
>>584062358It is a proven fact that the only people the devs listen to is streamers. This goes for retail as well.
they added discord voice comms built in lmao
>>584062526>just play elemental or enhancement for your ungrateful guild bro you're gonna have fun>just play feral or boomkin you're gonna have fun bro>just play fury warrior on alliance without windfury bro you'll have lots of fun
>>584059168The skylands losing their power of float due to the Air Elementals being missing / the Cult of Al'Aketh sabotaging them is an issue that has been going on for a minimum of 5 years, going by books + the farmer couple's quest texts, as the bandit group harassing the farmer couple has been doing so for several years, and the bandit leader expouses history. I don't specifically recall if the missing Air Elementals has a narrowed timing, but this is still an issue at least 5 in-game years old.The High Order are the Mage-Skyborne who end up contacting Dalaran and going Alliance. They are specifically a group of the Skyborne, who were already shamanistic and had the Windshapers similar to how the High Elves in Quel'thelas had the Farstriders, whose response to "The Air Elementals are missing, what should we do?" was to not focus their efforts on reestablishing communication with the Air Elementals / find them with Far Sight, but to toss away the dependency on said elementals to maintain their float-status by reclaiming their Highborne, Arcane magic heritage. The druidism mentioned and the Nightclaw Druid faction on Z-Isles comes from back when the proto-Skyborne were still opposing Prince T. in Dire Maul. Druidism seeped down from the north and was briefly considered as an alternative magic source, but Prince T. stomped down on it and considered druids as rabble-rousers and part of the problem.The Skyborne who contact the Earthern Ring through Far Sight are the Windshaper faction that end up being welcomed to Mulgore by said Earthern Ring, and thus being introduced to Thunder Bluff, and the rest of the Horde following such.
I want Goblins.I also want them to add Bard, Warden, Witch, Necromancer, Death Knight, Demon Hunter, and Rune Knight
>>584062547
not playing shaman till they add draenei or gobbos
>>584062767I would have fun with any class and any race in wow forever because i want to have fun :)
>>584062858When the add ogres and goblins, they need to include a pair-up racial where the goblin can ride on the ogre's shoulders.
>>584062962They should just say fuck it and add full on Eredar to the Horde
i think they have to add new classes.what do you think they're going to add?DKs seem like a softball answer
>>584062418grammatical update on meme5 :)
>>584063106We've already seen what classes got mentioned in the survey and we can see which ones are actually gonna happen because of the name filter.
>>584062112Hunter can be effective if played badly, but has high skill ceiling
>>584063106I'd rather not see new classes, instead I'd like to see new specializations. Dual wielding paladin, support/healer warrior, tank warlock/shaman, that kinda stuff would be way more thematic and cool imo.
>>584063004I'll allow it.
the horizontal progression is just new classes being added forcing rerollers to run old raids to catch up
>>584063192witch warlock and necromancer all have similar vibes. seems dumb
>>584063106Spellbreaker
>>584063232>I'd rather not see new classes, instead I'd like to see the exact same class with 1 or 2 new abilitiesFuck off, SoDie
>>584063192Tinkerbros.... I hope this isn't true
>>584063405The problem with new classes is they'll do some gay stuff like death knights or sky elves
>>584063498more like stinker
what did you say about not having fun??
>>584063192>bard confirmedWE DON'T NEED A CLASSIC VERSION OF AUGVOKER PLS FUCK OFF
>>584063606I'M SORRY!! I-I-I WILL TURN ON HD-MODELS RIGHT NOW!!!
>>584063405I just don't think we need to overcomplicate the game with new classes, at least not for a long, long while. Maybe in 5-6 years when we get a Northrend release we can talk about DKs.
>>584063192So now we have the power to decide what classes they'll make.If there is one character for each possible class you could think of, there is one less option for them to choose from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6FnOXv-NJoHe's right.
>>584063634Yes WE do.>>584063505Era is that way.>>584063801That would barely add any complication. I bet you play Warrior.
>Hey Alliance bro, how many shamans do you have for tonight's raid?
Is it even worth it to roll PvP on the classic BC servers?
>>584063801We should get one new race and class every 3 months.
>>584063801>5-6 years>wrath was 4 years after classic
>>584064050get with the times, old man. its all about forever now
Ogres with TWO heads so I can roll a Mage for the first time ever
Do I sacrifice myself and play a dwarf shaman?
>>584064186show dwarf cock
>>584064275no
>>584064186But BC is the greatest expansion of all time and the cuck Forever devs said we're never leaving Azeroth
>>584064169Forever is not following the same path as Classic.
>>584064275Ask yourself the following:>Are the pepe and anime girl avatars on discord going to help you?>Are you aware of the absolute state of elemental?>Do you want to play the faction that will lose 90% of bgs?>Do you legitimately enjoy a single Shaman spec?>Do you think when you're handed free loot every raid because you drop totems you'll enjoy the game more?>How will you solo farm your gold?
>>584063192>Bard
>>584064439They already said they're not doing Northrend DK again, this time it will be gen 1 and 2 Death Knights so think only the Unholy tree
>>584064503i will play dorf shaman and will have lots of fun and make lots of friends :)
>>584064541>gen 1 and 2 Death KnightsWarlocks?
>>584064541>Gen1 DK>Roll an orc>Human model and customization>Orc voice but echoey>If you die and release spirit your ghost is an orc
how do i help someone figure out what class to play? there's so much nuance baked into what each class is. i'm talking to my buddy about what to play and he'll suggest shit and i can't help but think why I wouldn't want to do that.like, warlock, yeah sure but you're going to have to be a summon bitch and you have to go to the dungeon or raid before everyone else, nah fuck that.mage? yeah but if you're going that then you're definitely doing frost for PVP and even their PVE rotation is pretty lackluster right now.i can't be unbiased because i already know what classes i like from playing them for decades.
>>584064770Would be kino but I assume they're going to say "oh they can implant their souls in any race" or some shit like that
>>584064586>I will play dwarf Shaman and have fun>How?>:(
>>584064503>>Do you want to play the faction that will lose 90% of bgs?First time WoW player?
>>584064856Just tell them what each class represents and let them pick based on that
>>584064503As if solo farming gold isn't exclusively done by like 3 classes/specs and nothing else. Hardly a point against shamans
>>584063106Berserker, a ranged class that only uses thrown weapons and uses a rage bar for abilities.
which class can I play that lets me feel like I'm sucking on a BBC the whole time?
>>584064856>yeah but if you're going that then you're definitely doing frost for PVPHow is that a problem?
>>584065050holy priest
>>584065050HunterTame a gorilla
>>584065050nelf priest, 100%
>>584065050Happily? Priest. Unhappily? Warrior with a shield in your bags.
>>584065050human female paladin
Let me guess. Some streamer complained about Ice Lance. And now suddenly we have an influx of their cult members spreading their gospel.
>>584065050skyelf mage or rogue
>>584065050seconding femhumie paladinonly because belves aren't in
>>584065050Druid in bear form
>>584065050sky elf shamans are sucking lots of orc and tauren cocks which is basically the same thing
Will they do anything with Violet Hold? That dungeon fucking sucked in Wrath.
>>584065750probably some troll cocks too
Fem Dwarf Rogue, Warrior or Shaman?
>/wowfg/ fetish porn general
>>584065627>>584065050This. You're also stuck looking at a fat hairy bear ass in the middle of your screen for the rest of the game.
>>584054715Waowwww!!!!!Only 29 minutes 30 sec cd for reck!
>>584066050>we may or may not do thingwhy even make this post
so how are they going to ruin blood elves this time?
>>584066050I hope you're baiting because I don't want to keep playing the beta at this point... Just bring out forever man
>>584066050it won't happen until after the gay tournamentthanks tipsout and all the streamers for the delay
>>584066050>not on the blue tracker
>>584066050holy fuck dude please do not
>>584066050>source: chatGPT
How are Paladins in PvP? Specifically solo PvP and duels?
>>584066050I mean the most obvious thing that gives away this is fake is that it's supposedly 6 hours ago but we haven't I'd heard of it until now
>>584066214They already did. They finally got the chance to give the model to the alliance like they always wanted, and now blood elves will forever be lost in a sea of recolors. I guarantee they give Silvermoon to alliance too. The only way they can fix this is giving them an entirely new model.
Why is it dps cucks always split targets in a run? Are you fucks just not using nameplates? It's so easy to just attack the same fucking target and it makes everything so much smoother.
>>584066363it's like sucking in a BBC the whole time
i want a cute bf to play forever with me
>>584066363bad
>>584066214Ghostlands will be a raid and Zul’jin and the Amani join the alliance.
>>584066509H-hey!
>>584066214Blood elves join the alliance and amani join the horde.
>>584066050So fucking funny how many RETARDS in here cant tell this is AI 4chan is so retarded
>>584066509Are you a girl?
>>584066050fuck sake i hope they dontplease stop spoiling so much shit
>>584064586Unfathomably based
>>584064586I will too but with the friends part
>>584066449no nameplates, no numerical or percentage HP shown on bars, keyboard turning, clicking every single spell, and drunk/highyour average classic enjoyer, sir
>>584066449Less fun
>>584064503>Do you think when you're handed free loot every raid because you drop totems you'll enjoy the game more?Yes.
>STILL NOT LEVEL 30this nigga wanted to go pvp first lmao
what does it mean when guildies call me an egg
>>584066449put skulland no, i wont stop using multishot on cd
>>584067027anyone that thinks hes rolling pvp is a fucking mongoloid
Tell me about Rogues in Forever. Is it worth it? What's the life like at 60?
>>584066449dps are fucking retarded and 99% of them have never raided so they have zero concept of what threat is or how to do dungeons besides just spamming two buttons on any random target, and no they wont ever kick any caster or do anything helpful.
Yes I will be playing an undead fire mage. No I don't care how shit it is going to be.
i just realized that the forever beta is essentially just free advertising for blizzo
Just saying again that I will be avoiding all the streamer cancer by rolling on the RP megaserver. I suggest you all do the same. And before you ask, I have no idea if Blizzard is launching a RP PVP server at launch.
>>584067050tried it, they just ignore it
>>584067209>i just realizedwhere have you been the past 15 years
>>584067209That THEY get paid for no less
>>584067179if they made pyroblast instant with max hot streak it would be good but they are pussies
>>584066449>kill a separate enemy before the other 2 DPS can kill the one the tank is targetingmogged
>>584067093You struggle to get into groups unless you know a healer or tank. People don't really want you in groups because end game is all about giving each other buffs and a rogue doesn't really bring anything besides exposed armor so they bring a single rogue at least. Tanks and other dps will want the shit you want like true strike shoulders or whatever weapons and trinkets and rings you're after.But if your playing a rogue, you're playing to pvp and the changes to rank 14 mean you can actually get pvp gear without no lifing the game playing it like a job for 3 months.
>>584066050What is the point? Beta ends in 10 days, unless they plan on keeping it up until launch day which seems kind of dumb. I mean I wouldn't complain, my last 5 days of beta will be stuck at a stupid wedding I don't want to go to, so hearing I could come back and play more would be fun, but leveling up to 40 sounds like a chore after I just spent days getting BiS at 30 just to pvp for a bit. I see no point in leveling to 40 only to reset literally less than a week later.If level cap is raised to 40, it 100% means the launch is getting delayed. Screencap that.
Do DW classes still need a fuckton of hit % or did they normalize that yet. I noticed rogue hit talent is only 3% now
>>584066050I think they should stick with the original plans. You can't just fill the game with unattainable goals in 10 days.99% of players have 10 gold or less on their mains. So how the fuck are they going to experience buying the mount training necessary?And not only that, if they decide to raise it to 40 that means that I need to work on making gold enough to buy said training. Or they're going to give everyone gold to buy what they need. Either way, it sounds stupid and incompetent.
>>584067027>/ourguy/ is the only streamer taking his time just having fun instead of meta min maxxing the fuck out of this gameOlympusCHADS... I knew I chose to follow the right leader!
>>584067442So since I have no friends who play WoW it would be a gamble with a potential pay off if I focus on PvP.. which I intend to do... Thanks anon, I guess there's a light at the end of the tunnel and it's not a truck coming my way.
>>584063387Now show her taking her armor off and revealing she was hiding giant milkers beneath that armor
Why doesn't Ironforge have the cool lighting?
>>584067849This but unironically
i will be playing a human warlock on pvp>b-b-but they're shit--free raid spot for mefree gear for meinstant bgs for me
>>584067404>be the tank>be the top dps in every single run
>>584067672I like to imagine as Andy grew up he started hotglueing Jessie and she would have to take it, pretending to not be alive, and after he left the room she would break down in tears as all the other toys tried to console her, but eventually she became addicted to it and all the other toys started being disgusted with her whorish behavior.
>>584067997people are going to cry about dots critting at 60 so badly
>>584067997It's a good choice. However I didn't have much fun as a warlock in classic
>>584066886ill be yer frend lad :)
>>584066904>no numerical or percentage HP shown on barsI do this why
please tell me Wrack is a placeholder
>>584067997same...
>>584067672Now that’s what I call a sticky situation.
>>584052314this applies to everything not just WoW addons kek
>>584068226assumi wife when....
>>584068110Will they even notice?
>>584067903
>>584051843this voice of the gacha slave generation
>>584068665>>584067903This but turboflat with bandaids instead of a bra
What's the absolute most fun class to play in Forever?
>Forever's race selection if it wasn't gay
>>584068832enh sham and it's not even close
>>584068859>Not a Horde Goblinkys
>>584068832enh shaman or druid
Alliance is beyond fucking gay lmao. >Walk into SW at level 8>Europeans crying about Americans>Uninformed teenagers yapping about how blacks actually idolize whites and something about the moors>Some dude ranting about cucks>Classic "umm your IQ is so low and im very smart">Come back at level 12>Exact same conversationsIdk if it's purely Asmons infestation or what but what a dogshit faction now, wow.
>>584068925That comes in the expansion :)
>>584068868>>584068950>PLEASE PLAY SHAMANlol
>>584068832whorelock
>>584068812
>>584067583dw still imposes a 25% hit penalty on white swings
>>584068859>if it wasn't gay>has horde character selected
>>584068969it's asmon tourists, they'll be rolling on pve come launch so don't worry about it
highest demand classes?
>>584069071invite asmon layer pls
>>584069107Dwarf Shaman
>>584068832Warrior. There's not a single other class that feels as good as Warrior when you get new gear
>>584069043based>>584068989I want them one month after launch. No later.
>>584069001Don't play shaman, I'm going to be playing shaman.
>>584069001We don't want you to play shaman. It's comfy getting easy spots in raids.
>>584067997why not gnome? their racials seem a lot better
>>584066449sister, your skull mark?
im getting really good at my girl voice now so I'm gonna start pig butchering everyone in my guild for gold
this guy you keep shilling is actually not so badhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6FnOXv-NJo
>>584068868>>584068950>>584069001Yeah I have a feeling this is a scam to make me play a dwarf.
I'm not watching your Alex homosensual or whatever the fuck is name is vids
>>584069156anything else?
I could never tank because I don't want to put these symbols on enemies. Sounds like a bother
>>584069395How much of a dickbag do you have to be to not only wear your hat backwards but to wear your hat backwards indoors while you're at your computer with over ear headphones?
>>584069462100%. Shaman is the most dogshit to class to play and this will never change
>>584069491dorf sham
What faction and server will you play in WoW: Forever?https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4Po7kgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4Po7kgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4Po7kga
>>584069545It's because he is balding. Every single eceleb who wears some type of hat at all times is simply hiding the fact they are balding
>>584069608im not touching that shit nigga
>strawpoll
Can't see shit milord
What killed the hype?
>>584069710>https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4Po7kgamore fun for us!!!!!!
>>584067442Rogues do top dps
>>584066449For optimal dps it's usually better to spread dps, depends on the class but any class with aoe works better when the damage is spread anyways, now keep crying
I genuinely don't understand people who swear up and down the hybrid tax is necessary so that a class can't be good at too many things, but apparently warriors don't count as hybrids because tanking and dps just isn't hybrid enough to count. By that logic priest is a pure healer class even though it has a dedicated dps spec but it just can't tank
>>584068969If you know anything about africa you know its half true.Half of africa is seething in jealousy and envy over whites while wanting them all dead and the other half believing whites are literal gods because whites doing things with technology is like magic to them
>>584069929>optimal dps in a 2026 recreation of a 2019 recreation of a 2004 casual online multiplayer game
>>584070054The people who say the hybrid tax is necassary are warriors because saying "the hybrids should be taxed" means instantly most of the classes should be below warriors. Warriors just want their class to be the best in the game.
if I want to play 2 characters, one for raids one for pvp, does it make sense to get characters that use the same type of armor? can I share the gear with the alt?
alright which class will get me tons of bitches?
>>584070054The argument is always on some level going to be disingenuous because warriors weren't better tanks than bear druids due to a hybrid tax, it's because warriors were just plain overtuned and benefitted WAY more from vanilla itemization.
>>584068665Based, need her continuing the trend of titmogging the skelf
I think Hunter, specifically survival is gonna be giga busted in PvP. It’s flying under the radar I think.
>>584070219the answer is always shaman
>>584068969At least they talk. No one talks on retail.
>>584070054Hybrids are classes that can heal themselves and do damage you fucking mongler. Its about the fact that hunters warriors and rogues and mages and locks have t sit there and eat or bandage to heal and paladins shamans druids priests etc dont How is this a hard concept
>>584070219orc warrior/hunter/shamantauren warrior/hunter/shaman
>>584069710Then why did you ask
>Had my character picked for release>Blizzard gut it last patch and it feels like shit to play now>Try out my alternative option>Blizzard buffed it and it feels great nowI fucking hate this shit because this is going to happen week after week for the rest of the time I play this. One week feels fun and nice to play, next feels irrelevant and the base abilities no longer work.
>>584070219Warrior (Gnome)
>>584070348IF YOU CAN DO MULTIPLE ROLES YOU'RE A HYBRIDCOPE BROWNIE
>>584069491Ranged DPS (not hunters) and healers. You'll have the biggest problem getting a group if you're a hunter, the least problems if you're a healer.>>584069873Yes but melee DPS is not in demand.
>>584070348So is tanking just...not a role differentiated from dps and healing? Again, does that make priests a hybrid or not?
>>584070372>WAHHHHH>WAAAHHHHHHHHHHpoor little baby
hat indoors = -1000 izzat
>>584068832for damage enh shamanfor healer druid
>>584070372That's a beta for you.
>>584070054Imagine if there was plate dps 1 and plate dps 2. Plate dps 1 can dps and tank and does 300 dps. Plate dps 2 can dps, tank, and heal and does 400 dps. Why would you ever roll plate dps 1?
>>584070214help me
>>584070281Hunter got the most buffs out of any class. All 3 specs are busted
I gotta decide between female nelf druid, male dwarf shaman, or human paladin(not sure what gender, probably female)
>>584070372What class?
female human warlockName: Hilda Blahajfind a flaw
>>584070372>metaslaves are in a hell of their own making. lol
>>584066449there's a lot of retail players that think threat works like it does in retail
>>584070502What?
>>584058961>He might not look the partit just hasn't been the same since the towel got rid of them sweet titties
>>584070149You won’t get invited to anything in 2026 if you’re not playing optimally. Suboptimal races and specs won’t be invited.
>>584070472>Yes but melee DPS is not in demand.Can't kill a boss without doing damage, every raid needs some of you. >>584070548Why in this scenario is plate 1 doing LESS than plate 2, when the argument is they should do the same?>Why would you ever roll plate dps 1?Oh I don't know, because they're not a fucking metaslave and actually like the way a class plays. One of the best ways to do dps as a mage is to just spam frostbolt but a lot of people don't play mage specifically because they don't want to just stand there like a turret spamming frostbolt
>>584070479Tanking is not a hybrid role in classic. Priests are a hybrid, but it's a spectrum, and they're very much on the healing side of the spectrum.
>>584070479>>584070457When anyone with more than 100iq is talking about hybrids, it is strictly in a sense of pvp balance. No one gives a fuck about what alternative spells and shit you can do in pve, the only thing that matters in pve is you wclog ranking.Now that is out of the way. The reason anyone with more than 100iq doesn't consider tanking to be a hybrid role is because outside of using bear form as if it's a defensive cooldown to soak damage, tanking is not a viable pvp role. In pvp you're either a dps or a healer. I hope this helps you dumb ass double digit tranny faggots.
>dps warriors constantly begging to join dungeon farm>big pumper>giga parser>naxx farmersorry bro no hybrid dps cucks allowed
>>584070753>When anyone with more than 100iq is talking about hybrids, it is strictly in a sense of pvp balance.We should not balance the entire game around minigame faggotry.
>>584069641Alliance PvE
>>584070603I will bet you he plays a priest and is complaining that penance got nerfed
>>584066449>leveled to 30 while healing dungeons>have to watch as my dps deal zero damage and split targets every dungeonGetting into dungeon groups easier as tank/healer is a total meme. I'd rather be dps making the run go faster. These random bozo dps cannot be trusted.
>>584070149>makes own group>invites anyone>has fun and games with new friendsH O L L LE E E E
>>584070281survival is melee around attack speed though, you have no gap closer
>>584070764every time someone says they're geared or a pvmper or whatever they always end up being in the middle of the pack
>>584070753People who hardcore pvp are mentally ill on a level parsers cannot hope to aspire to so they shouldn't be listened to. If you actually tried to get to r14 in the old system, you should be institutionalized.
>>584070849Wpvp is the end game
>>584070214you can't trade gear between characters once it's been equipped, and gear from dungeons, raids, and PvP will be soulbound off the rip. so no gear sharing
>>584070548warriors have much more tools for tanking and damage mitigation than druids and it's not even close. the only raids running druids for tanks will be the ones that vastly out gear it
>>584070372Yeah the tourists don't realize how weird of a beta this is
>>584070764tanking in classic is basically just dps I don't get why people are afraid to tank. Prot warrior feels 10x better than arms/fury right now anyway.
>>584062863the commentary starts with streamers who either have stupid ideas or react to someone elses reaction then use reddit as their megaphone, no one else matters in the equation
>>584070916Most rank14 grinders where pve fags doing it for the gear to use in raids.
>>584070706meant for >>584070886
Anyone else feel like there's something off about this game? Like im having fun but I dont know, the whole situation around it feels weird and political and dark somehow
>>584070219Iunno about bitches but if you want a free ez raid spot just play shaman or warlock.
>>584070764My second name is Parser is that really a problem?
>>584070935You are genetically blacklisted.
>>584070219>>584071052warlocks summon their own bitch
>>584070712>youre a meta slave if you care about doing less dps>OMG HYBRIDSS DO 5% LESS DPS WTFI mean if you genuinely can't understand why classes who can heal themselves in dps spec shouldn't do better damage than a class that can't, then idk sounds like a typical ret paladin player
>>584070870Friend, this is the plight that all semi-coherent players suffer. You roll a healer because you can't believe that mouth-breather face-aggro'd a mob and blew all his mana on himself -> Your dps have no concept of focus-firing and CONSISTENTLY and PERFECTLY get all 4 mobs down to 5% HP like they were exclusively trained for Council fights -> You roll a dps -> Your tank might as well be an affix hanging around your neck with how much you're tanking for them as dps -> You roll a tank -> that same fucking mouth-breather hpal just face-aggro'd again and hearthed this time.Just treat these struggles as your training to being a better player.
>>584070867definitely and his alternative will get gutted soon, healers are all hybrids and should not be able to outheal mage or hunter damage because they are pure damage classes
>>584070984I never tanked and am scared to do something wrong
>>584070764Parse Brain whispers you: inv warrior dps
>>584070945that sucks, so u can only use the gold in your alts, huh
I need a big orc master to breed my sissy little human paladin bussy
>>584070712>Oh I don't know, because they're not a fucking metaslave and actually like the way a class plays. One of the best ways to do dps as a mage is to just spam frostbolt but a lot of people don't play mage specifically because they don't want to just stand there like a turret spamming frostboltThis, like holy shit is everyone in this general a fucking parsenigger? I don't want to play rogue because it has an APM of fucking 20 and 90% of your damage comes from autoattacks. That's not playing the game, that's the game effectively playing itself, and no amount of "rogues will be the best ST dps in the game" will make me play one
>>584070849>We want the world to be the main character>We're nerfing instanced content to get you out into the worldIf these are the stated goals of the game, then pvp content needs to be balanced. I have no problem buffing ranged and healer dps for raiding. However that has implications because these classes have more utility. They need to buff the pure melee classes' mobility and the non-healings as well.>Hunter already got massive buffs, it is fine.>Mage was already strong as fuck, and still is, plus it's ranged so it is fine.>Warlock got buffs to its damage, and its pets. It already was strong as fuck and ranged, doesn't need much.>Rogue is getting damage buffs and already has good utility.Warrior is eating shit on the pvp front making a bad class even worse. It needs a buff. Paladin being pure melee with no slows, interrupts, and shit mobility could use a small buff as well. Not damage buffs, but utility buffs to balance the pvp scales. This keeps your precious WCLogs meta intact, but makes them less a slog to play in the world for wpvp
>>584070764>dps warr inv pls
>>584071152frost mage is about to be gutted too, they're fucking broken in the beta.
Hybrid means a class that can do multiple roles, warriors are a hybrid class
>>584061704POST THE ALBUM SOMEONE POST IT
Reminder that if you do not choose one of the accepted class/spec combos you will NOT be invited to any competent groupsYou WILL be trapped with the dad gamersYou WILL watch as gear is lootcounciled to womenYou WILL NEVER make it.
>>584071245>They need to buff the pure melee classes' mobilityThe entire playerbase would quit if you let warriors charge in combat
>>584071275>sub 100iqmust be illiterate too. post your hand with a timestamp, I bet it's brown>>584070753
>>584071326>trapped with the dad gamersanon the dad gamers are what set you free
Most slept on specs:>bm>enh>feral>destro>druid hybrid
>>584071393>he took the blue pillYou never stood a chance anyway
>>584071326But anon, I AM a dadgamer...
>>584071154Your brain will lie to you for a while pre-dungeon about how things could go wrong and how you can just quest or queue as dps "to learn the dungeon," but ultimately, you have to jump in feet-first and just get in there and dungeon. Do it early enough and the dungeons are so chill (other than patrols joining in on fights, but you can just keep your eyes open and back-pedal if you need to) that you'll build your confidence before you have to worry about being anything more than the dps with the most armor.
>>584071438bm will be pretty bussin when you get capstone
>>584071393dad gamers are cool until you see them banned one by one for RMTing
>>584071347It really is just as simple as giving warriors more mobility in pvp. Charging in combat and removes snares / slows would make warrior go from feeling like absolute ass to play outside of instanced content, to something where you actually have a chance to survive against any other class.Paladins have the same issue, no mobility. They genuinely could use a spell interrupt and slow as well.
>>584071353>sub 80iq
>>584071605you can't expect warrior players to know how to read
>>584071569POST THE WHOLE DAMN ALBUM
If I kill several enemies in a row does Thrill of Adventure stack or does it just refresh?
Everybody thinks they love dadgamers until they blow out your asshole and spit in your mouth
>>584071605I doubt you have a single friend or anyone that cares about your existence in this world. Must be sad being such a retarded faggot with no way to stop. Has a woman other than your mother ever touched you?
>>584070753>>584071245Counterpoint: the primary reason most pvp is to grind honor for rewards, and the fastest way to do that is spamming speedrunning AV where no single player really matters so much as it does everyone working together. Thus, warrior deficiencies matter less
>>584071154Playing a warrior and refusing to ever tank is inherently wrong.
>>584071326What are the accepted combos?
>>584071154Tanking is very easy lil gup. Just try and pull packs away from the other mobs so you dont pull big packs.When you play on launch do the low level dungeons a couple times and you will get over it. People wont turn down a tank and will happy to have you there.
>>584071739Man the projecting is getting out of hand after getting rekt by a single google search
Sexelf resto sham healslut that will only party with ORC and TAUREN prot warrior chads
>>584071154It's unironically just playing a dps but doing less damage. Especially early game where it's not that big of a deal if you lose aggro. I lost aggro constantly as a bear druid and my groups were always fine, even in Gnomer.
>>584071747Countercountpoint they’ve already stated AV will not be the meta as they don’t like everyone queuing for just AV.
>>584071685stop replying to yourself faggot
>>584071685its literally been posted in this very thread you dumb nigger
>>584071917They can attempt that but that doesn't mean they'll succeed unless they actively want to suck fun out of it to the point no one wants to do it.
will my boy be redeemed in forever?i also hope we somehow get Garrosh someday
Paladin or waror for tanking?
Whoa there, squirt. Couldn't help but notice that your class isn't very good at level 30 duels. Are you really expecting to get invited to raids when your spec is that shit?
>>584071856fuck......
Honestly spec doesn't really matter that much you can faceroll all the way through to MC with bullshit and randoms with zero effort and anyone who disagrees is either larping or cannot play the game.
>>584071768Undead PaladinHuman WarriorThat’s it
>>584071154Warrior and bear form basically pilot themselves. Pull with ranged attack/LoS, push your high threat buttons, and taunt if something goes after the healer. DPS classes aren't going to pop like water balloons in 5 man content. Can't speak to paladin since the class's kit is so boring I've never leveled one high enough for group content.
>>584072137molten core doesn't exist
>>584072137>all the way through to MCBut we're raiding hyjal's summit? I think you're on the wrong general
>>584071713Refresh
girls my smoke alarm went off and it spooked me now im all light headed
>>584072234>>584072204>Erm technicallyNot an argument
>>584071713Please respond.
>>584072137This aint classic.>>584072323You're wrong nigga, get over it.
I was excited for druid but the more I've played it the more pissed off the changes and nerfs make metigers fury removed (no compensation)mangle removed (no compensation) power shifting now requires 6 talents (no compensation) furor sucks dick now, again nerfed with no compensationJust gonna roll warrior mage or warlock at this point
I'm gonna have so much fun in forever. I will level every class eventually but I don't think I'll ever join a guild.
>>584072137just because you can doesnt mean people will want to, why the fuck would i want a 4hour MC clear when i can just get a 30min one
>>584071713duration refreshes but it's still good even as 5% as long as you have manaI think it's shit on warriors/rogues
does healing threat in this game work dynamically, or does it snapshot on initial castif I regrowth myself before a pull am I getting regrowth HoT threat, or was it all snapshotted on the initial cast before pull
>>584072356This isn't classic, it's drastically easier in every way so this will be even more true
>>584072349I have no idea but that one anon said refresh
>>584072137>he thinks this is classicPick your class's best spec regardless of role or fuck off
>>584071154If something goes wrong as a tank, just blame the dps. They know they're at fault.
>>584071747Being a hero in AV back capping bunkers etc is some of the most fun in wow.
>>584072440Yes don’t hot before a pull, clear hots before.
>>584072450No shit the games easier when everyone was in full blues and hard stuck at 20 grinding their bis, retard.
>>584072440its not snapshotted, you get it per tick
>>584072362druids are the biggest babies i swear>wahhh my class is stronger and more things but its not the exact same as before!!!!
>>584051359Hey, wanna... murder the alliance...t-together?
How do I groom gamer dads into giving me their gold
Spriest is going to pump and all the faggy manabattery lovers will kneel before my mighty loggies.
>>584071189you can mail/trade/sell any items that aren't soulbound, which is most of them because generally only gear is bound. crafting materials, potions, food, etc. while you have to obtain high-level gear on a per-character basis, everything else can be shared
>Man the projecting is getting out of hand after getting rekt by a single google search
>>584072362Furor needs to get changed. Its retarded to put 5 points into it just so I can shift into bear to charge / bash.
>>584072592yeah i'm sure you'll dominate the pugs that you have to join since no organized raid group is going to take you
>>584071983no it's the wrong one, the other had way more picswhatever man
>>584072527Listen you can hold onto your little larp all you want, you could pick talents at random and clears are still going to talk less than half of the time that they would in classic. Sorry man.
>>584072657What is enrage, how does it work, is it.. instant?
>>584072657They need to delete furor and just add the 10 rage when shifting into bear form a dire bear form baseline.
>>584072362>tigers fury removed (no compensation)Trvke>mangle removed (no compensation)Mangle is BC>power shifting now requires 6 talents (no compensation)>furor sucks dick now, again nerfed with no compensationYou get energy based on how long you're in caster form, so in theory you can stack bleed dps with spells. No idea where they expect you to get mana though. Ferals being able to reach Swiftmend is cool, but I'm not sure what the actual application is.
>>584072734Am I really expected to use enrage and drop like 25% of my armor for 10 seconds along with two shifts of bear into cat and all those GCDs just so I can press kick?
Convince me not to roll a rogue. I will gank you.
>>584070514>for healer druidwrong
>>584072990rogue is free hk to me, go ahead
>>584072990See>>584072659
>took him 10 minutes to calm down enough to cry about his hurt ego
Here are the level 60 sims for /wowfg/ to review. Please note that no specs below A-tier will be invited to competent raid groups since you'll be actively griefing your team.
>>584072990There's 50 million hunters who will piss themselves, have a meltdown and leave your group if you need on anything just keep that in mind
>>584073085u ok lil gup?
is it true that gamer dads still play on desktops?
>>584073108He said to convince him not to play a rogue.
is the badness of leveling a warrior overstated?
>>584073104>tanks doing more than ele Grim
>>584073172Is we getting mad about things you made up in your head?
>>584073162You play WoWF on your 'eck and put your 'ick on it.
>>584073108Hunters will do that anyway, even if you're a clothie who rolls on a melee weapon with spellpower.
>>584072631yeah but the idea was that running 2 characters that both use leather I could swap the gear around, but it's not possible, I was going to make a druid and hunter, but now I'll play whatever is more fun and then a hunter
>>584073250>esl
>>584073104>tanks ranked by dps instead of threat generated or damage reduction
>>584073298Very true
>>584073263i cant do that when my clitty is caged for locktober
>>584073104Mages need a buff, what is this shit.
>>584073329>prot warrior already copingEnjoy those pug raids, buddy
>>584071154saying "hi im a new tank, sorry in advance" at the start of a dungeon goes a long way.
>>584073395Then how are you gonna survive no nut november??
>>584073104I refuse to believe these sims are worth a fuck but lets nerf the shit out of warriors and buff the fuck out of ele shamans anyway.
>>584073329Uhhh, dps is how tanks generate threat anon. Tanking is a dps role.
>>584073104>browns are the best despite all their whining>2nd best is a retarded meme spec melee hunter>3rd best is retthis is unbelievably grim
>>584073532nobody cares sillu
>>584073532kill your self silluellyu
>>584073514They have a bunch of abilities that generate extra threat, it's not just dps
>>584071739>called out>turns on the projectorlol, lmao
>>584072184>Can't speak to paladinPaladin is going to be really good, possibly on par with warrior for everything besides maaaaybe certain raid encounters. For dungeons paladin looks like it will be king.
>played rshaman through my retail career>played hpal through my classic career>will play dpriest or rdruid in forever>both specs are godlike right now
>>584073104>fury prot when you need a shield for defiance to work
>>584073894Disc already got nerfed and is going to get more nerfs in the future
>>584073894>>will play dpriest
>>584070614How is it meta slaving if I have 2 classes that fill the role I want to play and I just want to pick the one that feels most fun to play? My post didn't mention a meta or logs at all. When blizzard over nerfs stuff it can make a fun spec feel like shit to play after. They can make an interaction that previously was fun to press, feel pointless. That has nothing to do with the meta.
>>584073894lmao dpriest is dogshit right now, they went straight from unkillable to easy free kills
What compels a mana blud to not carry water?
ngl i still cant decide if i want to play druid or mage on launch
>>584073104>Demonology>in a serious raid group
>>584073894>will play dpriest>godlike right nowwas/were
>>584073894play hpriest instead
>>584073894I regret maining healer for so long. Looking back at my time on wow its just a blur. If i mained like a rogue or mage or something I bet there’s be way more cool moments to remember
how did they manage to make priests so fucking shit bros...
>>584073950Fury prot is effectively taking bloodthirst instead of shield slam, as it scales better and all the worthwhile protection talents are at the start of the tree. You still just use a shield.
>>584073982i see no nerfs to aegis, so we're gucci
>>584074205>dagger and shield for better rage gen>bloodthristsounds fun ngl
>>584074127mages will gladly make me water for a whiff of my giant palacock
>>584073104You'd have to be a monumental retard to put any stock in these simsp, not even accounting for blizzard doing huge tuning changes weekly.
>>584074109>1 tick of penance does not get you from 0 to 100 anymore>that means it's dogshit
>>584074180Playing a healer is like watching others enjoy a game while you act like a janny, filling up the bars. You even do it for free.
how is paladin going to be in pvp? (i refuse to heal)
>>584074237Can't get aegis on the beta, it will get hit a week or two into the launch
>>584074365a full penance is now only 16% of you hp lmao, yes that is dogshit
>>584074130level both on beta to 10 to get good at the starting zone to get ahead, and just wait for patch notes till release, they might gut whatever you like
>>584074438I plan on healing and tanking for groups as paladin. For a fee, of course. That fee being prio on anything I need for my ret =]. Sorry warriors.
>tanking doesn't count as hybrid in the way healing doesOk, see how long your twink dps bussy lasts when I just decide not to taunt when you gain threat
>>584074365>1 tick of penance does 5% of your health>that means it's great
>>584073894>Only spec with absorbsIt will either be 1000% overpowered or complete and utter dogshit. Blizz don't know how to balance absorbs
>>584074438Healing means free easy gear, but I could never main a healer where I didn't have dual spec and had an actually fun spec to play.
>>584074130If you never played a druid I would recommend it. It's a super fun class, good at everything, always in demand for both PvE and PvP and has a lot of QoL things other classes lack. I would main one if I didn't already main a druid from vanilla to current retail.
>>584074438yup it’s really not worth it. going to play a pure dps this time so i’ll never do it again
>>584074130I'm going druid if my friends actually commit to playing and mage if they don't. I dunno, I just like solo mage leveling way better
>>584074450just play warrior instead
>>584074205>you still use a shieldso its not fury prot then. using a shield on fury prot was the exception, not the rule in vanilla
>>584074726If you friends don't play on launch, throw your name here and I'll play with you, anon. None of my friends play anymore and I'll be fishing for new friends here.
>>584074907You are still going into fury for the same reason as vanilla. More damage = more threat. Even if you are still using a shield the concept is the same.
ugh leveling up as destro feels AWFUL
>>584074150DS looking pretty good desu
>>584075065its not the same reason because you dual wielded for more damage/threat in banilla
>>584075134thats why you level up as demo
Name reservation is approaching. I'm going to get the names from my favorite fantasy series and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>584075169Well they buffed the threat talent while using a shield in the prot tree. So now it's better to use the fury talents for more damage but also keep a shield equipped for +15% threat.
>>584075270I have no desire to get a name other than something short
>>584075187yeah, i'm gonna try that now.if it still feels awful. i'll just go back to affli
i don't care anymore, i'm playing hunter even if 70% of the server does the same
should i play holy priest, rogue or prot warrior?
>>584075270I already registered my name Wearecharliekirk Wecarrytheflame
>>584075379Priest or warrior
>>584074852(i refuse to tank)
>>584075341Same but undead pally
>>584053425
>>584075341everyone thinks hunter is epic until they have to pvp at 60 on a hunter
>>584074365>playing class that does 75% of the damage as another class>has tons of utility and healing the other class doesn't >that means it's dogshit
>>584074713I played druid to 60, then I did MC and Onxyia once and stopped playing. It was so boring being worthless at 60, and only being there to use motw and maybe decurse, and trying to cast worthless r4 healing touch slowly on everyone. It was really fun until I got to 60 though.
>>584075652This time you'll be able to dps. Think of Forever as a restart of WoW rather than yet another Classic.
Why is /wowfg/ joining the libshits on horde and not with our King the Roach King on alliance?
does nelf warriors shadowmeld > charge work while in combat?
>>584052146This. Raid gear being better than previous tiers is fine. The real issue is when quest greens end up replacing raid gear
Will balance druid or holy shock paladin be more fun in pvp?
>>584074130Since you are mentally ill, druid for sure bro
>>584075789'ate streamers'ate libshits'ate trannys'ate furfagsluv me hordeluv me zugzugsimple as.
>>584076056Druid, except for dueling other druids.
>>584075990im guessing..... nyo!
>>584075990shadowmeld doesnt work in combat sissy
>>584076203it should unless they nerfed meld to not drop combat
>>584075953russia is our friend now cunny
>>584075789Alliance questing and transportation is fucking awful pre-60. It's so hard to stomach leveling Alliance characters once you've been on the Horde for a while.
>>584075990No. Shadowmeld is now a threat drop with a 2min cd if you use it in combat. You can't drop combat with it like on retail.
I fell for it guys. Paid for the beta and now I have lost all hope that blizzard knows how to run Forever within 3 weeks of their own words and actions.
im torn between rogue and warriorI kinda want to play warrior but with it being scrutinized(and already fucked up) im worried that they will butcher it even moreyes I am mad about them removing precision
>>584076381So refund the beta
>>584074852i always play woyer(and i will be tanking)i'm just hoping that ret isn't hot garbage
>>584075789I like mudhutsI like playing ugly charactersI like that the horde fill a more antagonistic role out of necessity for their own survivalI like that the rest of the horde have to work with niggers like the forsaken because they're all going to be cornered and exterminated if they don't
>>584076141>>584076141>>584076141
Noticing the wierd tranny op guy has been banned and or missing for the last few threads
who the fuck said hunter will have mana issues at 60 earlier, must be crazy
>>584076843>must be crazymust be bad
r u kids excited to play SoD 2 aggrend's paladin powertripping fantasy edition(tm)? I certainly am not and won't play it
>>584076789>t.You're retarded.
>>584077772you're a pedophile jannyyou should kill yourself
>>584080417>>584078525>Theyre this buttmadlollmao, kys trannies.
>>584069641i'd play Rpvp if possible
