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>October Trading Post:
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>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)
>NA
<GLOBOFOMO>
>EU
<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>

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>>584074768
yo this ones a banger
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first sylvanas of the thread !
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>>584075850
hot
this one was really good too
>>584062304
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should remove the guilds from OP no one plays in them and they're shit and shit up the thread and they'll be ghost towns for the next 4 months anyways
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garrosh did nothing wrong
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furfreaks gonna lose it over this one
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solo q is the future of wow
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>>584076317
yea soloq m+ is probably coming in TLT, they already pulled the high elf lever
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I don't care even if she smells like fish!
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Would you join her guild?
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that undead pally mount is nuts though
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>>584077008
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how do I grow some balls and quit a guild im too good for?
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onyxia my beloved
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>>584077326
just do it faggot
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>>584066397
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>>584077326
why is everyone that raids a mythic an absolute faggot
the worst part is that blizzard has engineered you morons into the perfect little sociopathic branch swingers that you are
its actually disgusting
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>>584077806
impregnate
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>>584077008
no
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This expansion is literally centred on the Army of the Light, where the fuck is Yrel????
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so i was waiting for my m plussy to fill up while scrolling another board and i saw this dumb ass getting mauled by a tiger
shit was a crazy yo
whats the best tiger in game to tame to replicate that feel?
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>>584078020
Her timeline dissolved.
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>>584078020
blizzard likes to memory hole their failures and beat their successes until they're dead.
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>>584077294
>>584077946
I always ask these questions hoping people reject me so that I can continue to be lazy and irresponsible.
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>>584078020
She's in my garrison.
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>>584078753
Tell her to get her ass to Voidstorm, her comrades need her

>>584078267
It still exists which is why you can make red orc characters
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>>584078675
thread guilds were a mistake and they need to die
only then will the thread be free of the bad apple rejects that have all bandied together as a result of their incarnation
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Eredar twins should come back and be my actual canon love interest
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>>584079692
this but just any Draenei woman because I love them
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>>584078849
You can make AU Mag'har Orcs because they crossed over to the main timeline.
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>>584079692
those aren't twins tho
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I think I've figured out how to play WoW correctly
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>>584079815
it is the most work safe picture I have in my wow folder so you gotta just accept it and use a little imagination
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>>584077234
Its aight whiteboi but it doesnt match the forsaken heritage so gotta find a mog to match
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>>584079893
Whats the lamented crusader?
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>>584078753
>garrison
Housing status?
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I haven't played in a while, is timewalking a good way to level again or is it still unreasonably hard?
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>>584080296
DoA
>>584080325
its mop this week
the best week
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>>584080325
for 1-80 it doesnt matter
80-90 yo do each delve once
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>>584080325
it's still one of the best ways to level
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>>584079893
Is this golf farming? Could you explain the headings more? I just do the gold WQs on my alts and call it a day.
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>>584080325
tw is the best way to level and that "tw is hard" meme was always wrong, the bosses had too much hp but that was it
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>>584080443
The scaling is just fucked, you need at least one sub-30 DPS and then no boss takes more than a few seconds.
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>>584080408
>80-90 do each delve once
I thought doing each delve was only enough for like 1 and a half level
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>>584079893
jesus christ dude
how long did that take you
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>>584080649
to check the boxes for the screenshot?
like five seconds
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>>584080704
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>>584080154
naxx tier 3 transmog tokens
>>584080439
Weekly from Silvermoon that awards a weekly chest that contains anywhere from 1800 to 20k gold
Abundance event rewards 2000 gold and if you collect 8 shards you can buy herb/ore bundles that sell on the AH for 3-5k gold depending on luck
The Soiree weekly event where you defend the runestone
Haranir memory event in Haranar
2 zones per week will also have a bonus WQ worth 2000 gold
>>584080649
It takes me about 1.5 hours per character
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How are blizzard servers so consistently doghit
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>>584081028
Happened during a ranked game
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mg down?
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tranny server wellness cheque
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>>584081478
ack
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>>584081478
declined!
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more bulbous night elf wife ass please
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>>584076102
No one plays in one of them*
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>>584081623
>>584077806
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>>584076102
Unironically this.
t. in both of them
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>servers randomly dying all the time
>servers increasingly desyncing from the client and registering fake damage
Daddy Blizzard, why are the car's tires squeaking so loud?
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>>584080592
it's good for 3 lvls, but the true best 80 to 90 are prey hunts
you can talk to Astalore and ask for a random prey that'll give you 90k or more xp and you can repeat it infinitely
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>>584080934
I've never seen a WQ worth more than 1k gold, where are these 2k gold WQs? Which weekly specifically? Is there a score required for Abundance?
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>>584082053
its the special assignment, you have to do 3 wqs in whatever zone they're in
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>>584082053
they're the "do 3 wq and get a bonus cache"
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>>584081623
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>>584079893
My friend is doing this with 15 characters and he said he is close to 5m, he started when they announced the mount
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>>584082053
"Special Assignments" are those 2000 gold bonus quests, the weeklies from either of these 2 elves are the potential big money quests, and the Abundance weekly is easy (it's almost impossible to not get it in 1 abundance run)
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>>584082698
Can you show an image of a special assignment or something? Every day I check every WQ in every zone twice (since some of the PvP ones only last 12 hours) and they're all 1045g from memory.
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>>584082804
they look like this icon, if you hover over it it'll show a reward chest
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>>584082961
What does the padlock mean? Do I have to do quests to unlock this or something?
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>>584082498
awwww yes das it mayne
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>>584083058
3 WQs in whatever zone it's in unlocks it
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>>584083217
So instead of doing 1WQ for 1k gold, I have to do 4WQs for 2k gold? Starts to feel like diminishing returns and a massive time sink, would probably be faster soloing dungeons or grinding herbalism.
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>>584083504
you do 1 wq for 1k gold and 3 more wqs for 0-1k gold to get a box that has 2-17k gold
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Did warlocks really have to refarm all their demon appearances?
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>>584083504
I wait for the zone to have 2-3 WQ that reward gold and then do the special assignment
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>>584083664
?
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How do you guys feel about useless class flavor crap? Stuff like zen cloud, corpse explosion, conjure food, etc.
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>>584084178
How the fuck is food useless lmao? The moment you join a group the healers ask for food
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>>584084383
Drinks are cheap as fuck but I guess it's not useless. Pretend I said pov spells like eagle eye.
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>>584084617
Well some of those are fun
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>>584082498
SCCCCHHHLLLEEEEERP no need to dunk the donk darling, I'll handle washing that squeaky clean!
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>>584083482
need drae wife
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>>584083916
My m8 is complaining that he had to refarm all his demon appearance when they added them to the barbershop
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>>584084983
Oh I guess that sucks because people paid for glyphs.
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>>584084983
the glyphs teach you how to unlock the barbershop appearances now though so you didn't lose anything
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>>584085342
>>584085258
Not all of them are glyphs, some are hard to find like 1% drops from old instances.
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>>584075604
>chochesty thread
ewww please fuck off
this thread was made first
please recycle
>>583942105
>>583942105
>>583942105
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^kys furtroon
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>>584085258
>>584085342
https://www.wowhead.com/item=147117/orb-of-the-fel-temptress
1% drop from a dungeon that you're locked out from after running once
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Threads are barely alive as it is and these two faggots are still having thread wars.
Janny really just needs to shoot both of them.
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>>584086361
Thats cool but I like autistic grinds
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baldhumpala has been bumping the thread that was made second for the last 30 something hours
the op of this thread just made a new one and you need to shut the fuck up unless you want to man up and take care of tyrone's board, bitch
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>/wowg/ split between two threads that are subsequently both unable to sustain themselves
>WoW split between two games that are subsequently both unable to sustain themselves
Narrative harmony
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>>584086361
You can just reset the dungeon and kill the mobs again retardbro
you don't have to kill the boss
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https://youtu.be/WOwV-ZzAKWE

bros....
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can i survive a 12 as prot pal at 310
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>>584087495
yes
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>>584087442
Yes easily
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Is there an add-on which does literally nothing except show me a list of all WQs currently available? I tried the top two on CurseForge but they were too invasive or bugged out immediately.
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>>584087809
blessed stinky group
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>>584087809
Yes but I don't know the name of the addon I remember a streamer using it and declining non nelfs
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The paladin discord said troll will be the best paladin race lmao
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>>584087324
The level of mass hysteria and fervor blizzard instilled in the community with blizzcon: fagever is only rivaled by such events as the ludicrous and overwhelming amount of support and sympathy that has been instilled in a large part of the woman population of the internet regarding the Lindsay Clancy trial.
its kind of obscene and frankly it makes me sick

I agree with him that the devs have no chance in hell at creating horizontal progression because they're are talentless hacks and for 95% of the people working on the game are just there for a paycheck. They likely don't even comprehend what the term means nor do they have any idea of how to approach a broad application of the concept to the game, it is not really and easy problem to solve even, but its quite obvious that they will fail at it if the best thing they can come up with is a level 39 hat that makes your resurrection spell 20% faster, lol.

I do not like alot of the design decisions they've chosen to implement into fagever. They are trying to fix problems that created what vanilla was. It's quickly turning into a ship of Theseus situation and I don't see how you could say you love Vanilla if you hate all the things that made it so special. As with every large bureaucratic behemoth, they would prefer to use a hammer instead of a chisel to anything they deem to be an imperfection.

I will play the game just because i'm going to be holding a sub to play retail regardless but from what i've seen I don't think it will even be as fun as Season of Discovery was.
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>>584089796
>the devs have no chance in hell at creating horizontal progression
I don't know if he is wrong but dratnos said the new tiers will have the same ilvl and stats but every new tier will have superior bonuses invalidating the whole horizontal shit.
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>>584089965
that's textbook vertical progression lmfao
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they should have just copied guild wars again
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>>584089965
>new tiers will have the same ilvl and stats but every new tier will have superior bonuses invalidating the whole horizontal shit.
Exactly
It does not work with the way the game is structured.
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>>584089796
Blizzard shot themselves in the foot by doing this
they made a competing game inside their own company, and if it fails the entire playerbase will collapse as there's been a mass loss in confidence in retail, it's actually hilarious how much is riding on Aggrend to deliver someone with an objectively shit track record
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>>584090010
>>584090146
Maybe they will change it when people finally datamine something.

>>584090234
Fatgrend is nothing Ion is in control.
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>>584090234
foreveretards are delusional if they think redditrend is not gonna rape the game
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>>584089796
This all stems from Blizzard not even knowing what they want forever to be.
It's classic but it's not classic. It's retail but it's not retail. It's some weird middle ground that can very easily leave both sides disappointed.
An easy example is the comically badly thought out dungeon exp changes, people are running that shit like a mythic plus, skipping everything that isn't mandatory because why the hell wouldn't you?
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>>584090456
To be fair they are skipping everything because you get 0 xp.
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>>584090234
>Blizzard shot themselves in the foot by doing this
well its a waste of development resources , i just think its uninspired personally
>they made a competing game
its not a competing game, the offerings are completely different to retail
you're basically saying a toyota corolla is the same offering as a tundra or supra or something
>entire playerbase will collapse as there's been a mass loss in confidence in retail
i mean thats just straight up delusion
the games not in the best state
the expansion and patch is a stinker honestly but they'll sell the same amount of boxes they always do for tlt
>it's actually hilarious how much is riding on Aggrend to deliver someone with an objectively shit track record
i thought the first phase of sod was a banger but the game had no legs after that, sad
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>>584090550
>its a waste of development resources
>the 5m gold
>4 different store mounts
>rushing forever with little beta testing
I'm convinced they have to reach a metric or Microsoft will fuck them.
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The idea that some wow addict who has been playing retail for 20 years and bought every expansion up to slopnight dropping the game because of.......... classic but with blue elves is so comically out of touch
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>>584090730
Just as out of touch as people think that one of them them is going to "Kill" the other when they are both on the same sub.

All forever players are subbed to retail
All Retail players are subbed to forever.
There is no competition between them they are symbiotes, and unlike with "Classic" there is no forced antagonism between retail and classic, there will be huge overlap between players.

Retail players will go play their forever alts to chillax after getting the weekly chores done.

Forever players will play retail to farm gold for tokens and mingle with retail players they meet via forevers more social world.

Im over here sincerely hoping they speedrun linking forever to retail enough that my forever characters can use my retail warband houses, since housing should become and "Everyone" feature with the launch of TLT.
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>>584090456
>An easy example is the comically badly thought out dungeon exp changes, people are running that shit like a mythic plus, skipping everything that isn't mandatory because why the hell wouldn't you?
They are so desperate and focused on forcing social interactions that it hampers QoL and design as a result, all in a bid to get you subbed for longer.
This is a problem they're dealing with in retail too honestly. Unfortunately for them, the friction design doesn't work and players will just find a way around it or fuck off.
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>>584080934
>>584082698
Okay I just did one at x8, where is my 2000 gold?
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>>584091181
You get a bag when you turn in the quest
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>>584091053
>there is no forced antagonism between retail and classic
i don't think its "forced" at all, its boiler plate tribalism
and yes, the classhits are flinging shit at anyone gainsaying the devs on twitter, etc.
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>>584090730
Forever is for people that dropped off WoW for about 40% or more of its life. They missed out on so much that achievement wise they're in perma noob mode. Forever gives them a clean slate. Now the guy that started in BFA or Legion wont feel like a huge faggot that will never catch up. All the 2019 classic players that never played vanilla, can now hyper larp as vanilla players in Forever.

And you're right, no one is going to leave their 1000 mounts and server first titles to start over with blue elves. Its gonna be a mode for WoW parents to play with their kids that can't handle the speed of retail.
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>>584091265
The quest to get 20,000? I didn't even get close, and now I am at 0/8 Dunduns.
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>>584091302
You can keep running with 0 shards for score
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>>584079893
>she still farms lamented crusader even doe that shit takes over a month to sell
based, desu.
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>>584091181
you need to get 5000 more points for the quest amigo, just go back in for 0 shards, also you can use that 7200 unalloyed abundance for ore/herb bags if you're a miner/herbalist
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>>584091278
I meant between retail and forever, like ther is between retail and classic, like you said the classic tribalism.

Forever is what Classic should always have been and literally everyone I have talked to about it has been positive. Retail players, Long term quitters, pvpers, casuals, my 53 year old brother in law and my 23 year old nephew.

like literally genxers and zoomers I have talked to both think it looks cool. There is no "anti forever" tribal action going on, just a handful of andies screaming that it isnt the exact C+ they imagined in their dreams.

Its classic with many of classics glaring flaws addressed.
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>>584091413
just warband transfer the crusader tokens to a full pop normal server and price it the cheapest according to undermine.exchange, they sell quick
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>>584091421
>>584091374
Nice, I just got a free mount and then 2k gold and next week I'll get another 2k gold and soon another mount. Thanks lads, the game does a terrible job expalining these many mechanics. Next up, curse surges, void assaults, purging the vaults, ritual sites, naigtal, val, defending the runestone, and stormarion assault.
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blizzard knows what they're doing
they invented the sexiest monster girl race out there and then withheld them from forever just to watch the gooners squirm.
they'll be back to retail before long.
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>>584091869
Draenei are not really popular
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crests uncapped next week?
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>>584092328
20th
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>>584092328
It has been week 10 the last few seasons. Next week is week 9.
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>know full well i can tank a certain key level but still can't be assed to apply sometimes
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>>584093072
tanking is always stressful, even when I'm tanking keys below my level I'm always worried about the healer not keeping up or the dps asspulling something and getting blamed on the routing
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>>584093072
I don't do endgame but when I tank heroics and timewalking and levelling dungeons, I just run through and alt tab once I've grabbed aggro on enough mobs. I say "jannies clean it up" to my dps if there's voice chat while I play gacha during the rest of the fight.
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total elf love
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elves are shit. least interesting warcraft race(es)
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>>584094650
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What are the most iconic race-class combinations? I thought if a few
>Nelf Druid/DH
>Human/Gnome Mage
>Human/Light-Forged Paladin
>Dwarf Hunter
>Orc Shaman
>Human Warrior/Death Knight
>Pandaren Monk
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>>584095189
The most interesting thing about them is that they're literally responsible for at least 90% of things bringing ruin to the world.
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>>584095595
you/faggot
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alright lets cut the shit and release the .2 patch already
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>>584097261
>alright lets cut the shit and release the .2 patch already
and skip over valuable content like uh... invasions and a lair boss?
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I saw a beautiful femworg questing around and my heart skipped a beat
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>>584090730
that's the thing most players are semi players that pick up and drop the game every now and then, if there are now two products you can do this with they're just going to pick up one of them and try to keep up to date on it
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>>584072005
haha only on sundays ;dd
https://files.catbox.moe/f0get2.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/yf9xp6.jpg
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>>584102595
na they literally just watched GGG do this and doublemaze its playerbase. Next step is they'll start adding seasonal fomo as crossgame rewards
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Blizzard is like France and England with migrants at the moment - game is burning down, women, leftists, rainbow & rich people who live behind the walled, mostly white areas are saying everything is fine and there should be even more migrants
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SUBS ARE SO FUCKING BORING
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why isnt darkmoon faire getting any updates?
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>>584106278
Because its perfect as is, I guess.
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jelly?
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I wishe i was a fishe
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gonna be fun once the riot mmo arrives and wow dies because blizzard failed to make a proper sequel
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>>584107431
>once
if*
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Goat sis, where is our new city? Prophet said it was time to built a permanent city for goats on Azeroth
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>>584108210
The light is going out of fashion because it's evil now, no shiny cities allowed.
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is there a skip for the 12.1 story?
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>>584109237
Yeah if you've done it on your main talk to Soridormi in the inn on your alts.
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>>584109237
Yeah at the innkeeper. Speak to Soridormi.
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So like is there anything extra I need to learn or be aware of as resto shaman beyond bloodlust timings
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>>584108210
I don't need a new city I just need a new bed to impregnate her in
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It's over...
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>>584107431
they couldnt even keep their fucking fighting game running
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An interesting observation I've made lately. There's a youtuber named Clovergirle and she's just about the normiest foid to ever normgroid on the internet. She's a girly fashion girl and she dabbles in games. Recently, she's gotten into WoW, and she almost immediately favored classic to modern WoW. Her reasons for favoring it are that the world is a more cohesive experience and there's a little more challenge in the leveling experience.
Now this is very, very interesting to me. Because you'd think as a truly feminine girly foid, retail would appeal more to her. That's the entire premise of modern WoW, to appeal to this audience. But it doesn't. They wind up going classic. How do we explain this phenomenon? How can the situation be rectified? How can we attract more actual feminine foids to our game?
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>>584109889
memorise the results + findings of all totem RCTs since 2020 in case someone badmouths them
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>>584112342
I don't know who she is or what kind of games she dabbles into it but based on the way you described it she probably is dabbling into games she has heard are good and popular with interesting worlds and stories.
Retail doesn't appeal to those types of people. Retail on the casual side of things appeals to silly 'gamer girl' types that almost exclusively enjoy shit like sims, animal crossing, and stardew valley.
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>>584112342
classic is more popular with the mass. if you ask someone which version of the game you should play most would tell you to pick classic over retail. there is also this issue where retail is a disjointed mess, with a dogshit leveling experience.
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>>584112887
>>584113028
They really have to fix the leveling because Chromie time is shit and level scaling feels awful in the way they have implemented it.
People always thought normgroids don't care about story, but the way people react to the disjointed and annoying experience of WoW's leveling proves otherwise.
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>>584089796
you can add encounters without resetting gear you know?
>Land on island
>Its filled with Snake Monsters that do poison damage and catacombs
>There's a goblin town there where you can farm out poison resistance potions
>You can also do a quest chain to set up a official boat with the main citys and over throw the current ruler with a more pro alliance one
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https://www.digitalfoundry.net/features/world-of-warcraft-forever-brings-the-largest-visual-leap-in-the-mmos-history

>To maintain broad accessibility across a wide range of hardware, Blizzard implemented a custom probe-based ray tracer designed to run smoothly - even on older graphics cards lacking dedicated hardware ray-tracing support. While this coarse RTGI solution excels at calculating macro-level light bounce and ambient dispersal across expansive landscapes, it lacks per-pixel precision and fine-grained micro-occlusion.

>blizzard does some stupid retarded software rt solution that kills performance instead of actually implementing hardware rt through shader model 6.9 and dxr 1.2

What did ion and metzen mean by this? also can't wait for retoilet to get this performance killing software rt garbage
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>>584113171
many equate caring about the story with caring about the nooks and crannies about the lore, which is actually false. caring about the story could mean even just watching the new cinematic or enjoying the vibe of the setting. sadly, retail has been failing at keeping the setting and the narrative interesting, and that's affecting everyone's enjoyment of the game more than some would like to admit.
>They really have to fix the leveling because Chromie time is shit and level scaling feels awful in the way they have implemented it.
they won't be able to fix anything in tlt. there is this urge to improve certain things otherwise the game is going to die, but they're stuck with the worldsoul saga
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>>584113171
They won't and can't fix it. That is literally why they made wow forever. Retail is simply fucked beyond repair because the only way to repair it is to just start deleting a bunch of major systems and mechanics in it, which they won't do because they're too stubborn to admit they made the game worse and because these shit systems and mechanics actually somehow does have a very small fanbase. Easier to just reset the clock with a new game and keep retail as a side thing for the people who do enjoy it.

Story always matters. The entire reason XIV got popular was cause it had a strong continuous story that respected the player and it coincidentally fell out of popularity the moment that story wrapped up and the devs had no answer for what to do next. The people who will tell you story doesn't matter or they don't care are the type of people who run m+ everyday of the week or play sports games like 2K.
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>>584113502
I'm surprised they didn't have a separate solution for non hardwarelets that have GPUs capable of hardware RT
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did they ban that gold buying streamer from forever?
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>>584112342
No? Women love “comfy” low pressure games like stardew valley, not sweaty maze simulators where they get yelled at by Ivan for doing the wrong route.
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>>584113663
>They won't and can't fix it. That is literally why they made wow forever.
kek the more you read about their plans with forever the more this feels true
>adding spells to classes
>adding hd models
>having a mix of vertical and horizontal progression instead of strictly focusing on the latter
forever is meant to be retail minus
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>>584114181
>did they ban that gold buying streamer from forever?
which one? every pvp streamer is buying gold
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>>584114214
It's the observable truth from what i've seen. Even ion is cucking out and saying new players are better off trying forever than retail.
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>>584113502
>largest visual leap
>added lighting effects games in the mid-PS3/X360 generation were using
Fuckin' wow, how monumental.
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>>584114603
i wonder how they plan to "kill" retail. they're gonna try and sell another expansion, but after that?
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>concern trolling hours
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I can't remember I seen this recently, it was like relevant for 1 expansion and then forgotten
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>>584114748
I don't think they will purposefully try to kill it or anything, i think it's just going to continue the path it's already on, which is ever increasingly more slop content and mini patches. More lazy outdoor copy pasted slop events, more recolor amor skins and mounts, more completely garbage 'nothing-to-do-with-wow' style temporary game modes like plunderstorm and fate stories, more egregiously expensive and ugly store promotions, more lazy raids and dungeons that are not even remotely tuned, more terrible character and story writing with faggy characters you hate, more disconnected content and development like half of TWW and midnight being swapped with each other making everything schizophrenic, more buggy releases, more arbitrary caps and dozens of currencies.
Retail is going to continue on trucking exactly how it is right now except it will degrade even more over time and get worse.
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>>584114304
Ziqo.
>though the streamer was not banned or suspended, as many players called for.
shame, looks like forever will be streamer game after all.
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>>584114603
>>584112342
As a brand new player, playing retail is a ridiculously convoluted experience over just playing Forever.
Forever is so much more simple and plays like a more old school RPG
>Ok I pick human warrior
>Ok these are my skills I raise by hitting things with swords, and these are my reputations I raise by doing various things
>I complete a quest and get rewards and xp, same for killing stuff, this makes me stronger and I get more abilities
>I go into the big cities and train new skills, then venture out into a new area I can fight in because I'm stronger

Its an easy to understand feedback loop that appeals to people. You login retail wow and there's a million and one systems that only make sense to you if you've been playing for 20 years and ready every patch note so you understand the context behind everything

>Entire world scales with you, so you can just level anywhere
>...but don't worry too much about this huge mound of content, its just for levelling and the factions, stories, reputations, rewards etc. dont matter anymore, just use it to level until you hit (NEW EXPANSION LEVEL RANGE)
>Once you're in that range then you have to engage with all this shit like seasonal content a weird battle pass looking thing and catchup to what everyone's doing at endgame
>Oops too late a new expansion has been announced nobody cares anymore time for a progress reset

It gets tangled up in its own feet because it feels like a massive stack of precariously balanced plates ready to collapse at any time.

>>584114748
I have a suspicion TLT is gonna end in some sort of setting shattering event that opens the game up for a hard reset like at the end of a fortite season. Everything completely scrubbed away from the ground up and starting again. I just wonder how they'll do it differently to Forever.
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>truth hours
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>>584115391
You'll see parts of Northrend breaking in the cinematic after the raid is finished, it's gonna be like the Legion one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c7HeXzKRJ0&t=164s
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what is so complicated about retail? you literally only engage with the current patch mechanics.

where is this stack of plates? having to physically walk inside a dungeon? having to look up where the rep vendors are?
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all the custom zones we got in legion... all abandoned completely, some are comfy. Garrisons abandoned like junk, all the old hubs like Dalaran empty and dead and I'm not on a pvp realm.
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>>584116010
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WATH THE FUUUUUUUUCK
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>>584116010
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rogue weapons kinda meh
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Legion class halls were pure unfiltered soul. Unfortunately Blizzard is completely incapable of making separate questing experiences for even just 2 factions (and constantly justifies this bullshit with retarded lawyerspeak such as "well they're working together so why would they be in different places") so doing one for every class now is unheard of.
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>>584116867
nelf women kinda perfect
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what were they thinking
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>>584117059
>rogues get HD Thunderfury but unga bungas don't

WTF is this rogue favoritism man
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>>584117173
rogues should of given two wooden sticks
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I should be given a night elf wife
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>>584115937
>Where is this stack of plates
When you finish the newbie island and immediately get introduced to chromie to choose a campaign to level in. It makes zero sense from a cohesive narrative standpoint for a new player to have a standalone adventure on an island that has zero bearing on the plot, then be thrown in a storyline from 15 years ago that they wont understand what came before this or what comes after it, and then suddenly thrust into the new expansion content when they hit the required level. People play RPGs for the story and the chromie levelling system fucks it completely for a new player. You're asking them to read up on 30 years of lore to even understand whats going on
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I have seem to lost my Timerunner title
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>>584117924
Not to mention even though the game points you towards chromie you're also simultaneously bombarded with multiple different expansion or patch starting quests like wrathion in stormwind.
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>>584112342
>more challenge in the leveling experience.
tedium =/= challenge
classic leveling is not hard and never will be
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I got laid off in june and can't find shit. My father also killed himself on july and left me more than a million euros so I'm set for life (already got my house payed with my own money). I'm 34 no family no friends. Is the universe just trying to tell me to nolife WoW ?
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>>584118856
travel
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>/wowg/ is almost dead

>Oh yeah let's make two generals and divide the community more and more
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>>584118856
kill self
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>>584119251
>see Jaina
>want sex with Jaina
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god i wish i were my vulpera
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>>584119251
nah forever is alive and kicking it's just retail who's dead
>let's make a MMO
>but the real game is instanced bullshit and nothing in the world matters
>and the gear resets every few months so your accomplishments don't even matter
>and the instaced content is autistic tier repetition and out of memory learning
>why is everyone leaving the game how did it die?
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>>584118591
*cracks open a monster* running the same dungeon again but with mobs and bosses having 8% more health and damage? Yup, now that's challenge.
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>>584119560
it is when you're trying to coordinate azralon players.
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>>584119560
no the maze is just as retarded but if you are genuinely challenged by vanilla leveling you are just stupid
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>>584119536
The real huge mistake was to continue WoW(1) after Legion.
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>>584118591
you do have to plan your moves in vanilla atleast lest you get overrun
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>>584119625
I mean the very basic fact is if you pull more than 2 mobs you often die. You can use whatever semantics you want to obfuscate but getting to 60 without dying like on HC is harder to do than pretty much anything in retail except for getting CE during really overtuned cucked seasons like the current one.
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How to save WoW (retail): Make it more Anime and less DC-Marvel.
>zoomers don't read comics, they read and watch anime/manga
>Anime aesthetics is far superior
>No more American culture shit, we are just tired of that, it was cool 20years ago, it's nightmarishly bad now

In other words, make WoW for China and Japan and forget about the US-Europe.
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>>584119864
>but getting to 60 without dying like on HC
not with all the literal cheats you have at your disposal like light of elune, petri, or lips
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>>584119947
You say that but everyone lovs marvel rivals
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>>584119947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp1yHJTSXDA

Anon, the writers are so bad and woke, they'll never be able to write scenes that resonate with the players
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>>584120306
Because it's literally Marvel but China-Anime-Japan
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>one piss toddler
lmao
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>>584120583
>one piece
please stop
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>blizzdrones think they are above one pissers
rofl
lmao
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>>584121091
Yes, yes we are. Everyone is above one piece of shit
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>>584121162
LMAO
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>>584121189
You must be a zoomer don't worry you'll grow up one day. What's worse is that you're in a millenial nostalgia general when you weren't even born when the game released.
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>>584120583
Not surprising retail shills would shit on you for this. Anime has stories and scenes that can make you cry. A M+ mazerat could never comprehend. They just care about score number go up and pressing buttons.
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Genshin Impact should be our role model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9B8EsfGxY8
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>>584121162
>>584121281
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>>584120694
>>584120738
https://www.wowhead.com/item=137047/heathcliffs-immortality
https://www.wowhead.com/item=137084/akainus-absolute-justice
https://www.wowhead.com/item=137098/zoldyck-family-training-shackles
https://www.wowhead.com/item=144260/ice-time
https://www.wowhead.com/item=144355/pyrotex-ignition-cloth

STFU faggots, wowo wawa literally steals from animu and mango
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>>584121357
I'm a futa nelf toilet
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blizzard is like chinese nigga, stealing from others all the time
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any vulpera online rn
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>>584121898

Maybe.
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When are we going to go finally get meaningful updates to Elune's lore so that SL is no longer considered canon?
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/xivg/ is dead as gw2 thread
both are "wow killers"
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>>584123750
every mmo thread is dead while forever is the new toy on the block
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So is leveling just a meme at this point? I haven't played since SL but even that wasn't this bad. I'm killing everything in one hit.
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>>584124291
>even that wasn't this bad.
It was. Leveling has been an extended tutorial for over a decade now.
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i do not want to maze anymore.
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>>584124370
Nah mate you're not pissing on my head and telling me it's raining. I even took all my gear off and didn't drop below 90% health.
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>>584124291
Yes. Just experience the story of the zone/faction you like, don't think of it as a gameplay experience
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>/wowg/ is dead
>/wowfg/ is dead
>/xivg/ is dead
>/gf2/ is dead
>all mmo generals are dead
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>>584102780

>OG hits thread cap
>wowo wawa still 24 hours away from hitting cap

just saiyan
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>>584124839
>7 hours ago
>805 posts
>>584075604
>14 hours ago
>265 posts
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>>584124658
Oh I already stupidly came up with a whole backstory because I'm a roleplayer at heart and I was thinking of subbing a little early before wowf launches but I think I'll wait until the 4th to resub. Retail is pretty but shallow.
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>>584124675
kek you really set them off
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>>584124270
This makes me think about the worgen paladin spammer who for seemingly years now has spam posted about HOLY WORG with with silly transmog screenshots and AI slop.
Imagine how cucked he must have felt when the retail devs finally announced the new paladin races and worgen wasn't there. I don't know if i've even seen him post since blizzcon actually lmao.
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WOW IS NOT DEAD FAGGOTS
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>>584125127
That's his own fucking fault dude like anyone gives a fuck about worgen lol it was obvious nelf was the next paladin option.
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>>584125280
I know. Furfags get what they deserve. It's just funny how he wanted it so bad and convinced himself so thoroughly only to get turbo cucked like this.
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>mfw it couldn't be more obvious that retail is now the paypig game that exists to squeeze as much money out of you goyim as possible before the servers are shuttered
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>>584125419
I'm sure it will happen eventually but nelf was the only choice this time and lets be real it should have been forsaken only after velf dh but they know they have to give something to the victim complex faction or face their bitching.
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>>584125509
>muh paypig game
>also we're gonna shutdown the game that gives us all the money
can you think for 2 more seconds before you post?
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https://www.wowhead.com/item=229418/reins-of-the-traders-gilded-brutosaur

You're a big guy for you is coming back on November 16
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>>584125760
the new vrykul yak mogs this shit
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>>584125518
If anything i'm surprised they didn't give it to kul'tiran. Forsaken, nelf, and kul'tiran seem like no brainers to me. Worgen is retarded.
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>>584125885
>what are skyborne
it's already over
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>>584125926
That's because they had to give two to the horde and one to the alliance after velf demon hunter.
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>>584125518
>faction with most race class combos
>crying about race class combos
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Did someone say worgen paladin?
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>shadowlands
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>doing timewalking to finish my last leveling character until forever launches
>bear tank so insta queues
>habitually and without variable every single goddamn group is retarded
>look, i get that not all spells are available, interrupts locked (or not even allowed any more i.e healers thanks blizz), or some capstone spells around level 40 really bring a class together
>i get it
>but i'm level fucking 28 in greens and even an empty trinket slot yet somehow a level 86 can't interrupt a healer mob thus elongating the fight

>intermission
>buh buh buh look at this crybaby no one cares about leveling dungeons haha its just timewalking why do you care lmao what a faggot
>end intermission

I'll tell you why.
Because these faggots don't just disappear after you out-level them. They don't apparate like goddamn dumbedore into the ether or stay in some containment area of the game where you never see them again. These idiot fucking faggotass morons can (AND WILL) hit max level and clog up the group finders, join cesspool guilds, and never have someone stick a finger in their cross-eyed down syndrome squirmy little rotten maggot dick faces and tell them that the game only has 4 buttons at this point
>a speed boost
>a defensive
>an interrupt (sans healers again ty blizz)
>single button rotation

With those 4 fucking goddamn buttons you can do any and all content. So explain why some people don't even push ONE of them, let alone 3 of them?
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>show void elf paladin and kul tiran fatty paladin in dragonshite
>not playable in 12.2 the light vs void finale

What did ion and metzen mean by this?
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>>584126813
people are sick of the writers forcing velf shit
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>>584126813
>start of midnight
>invasion of the void
>summon and recruit holy wielders from across the world
>we need to find more holy people and items!
>the army of the light is here from space and has opened their doors to new members now formed into the vanguard of light
>should we do more paladin races now? nah
>phase 1 of the expansion story ends with the entire vanguard of light somehow seemingly decimated and gone
>xal teleports underground
>we go and take a vacation on snake island to fight some snakes and drink some poison
>we then chase xal underground
>ion: we think now is the perfect and most appropriate time to introduce new paladin races but it just makes sense
No seriously what did ion mean by this?
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>>584127324
>we think now is the perfect and most appropriate time to introduce new paladin races
Well he is not wrong.
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Kek most classes cant do mage tower now.
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>>584125127
>>584125419
>convinced himself
I've given up on worgen paladins being a thing years ago. And honestly I like playing hunter and doing the worgadin RP more than actually playing paladin anyway.
>>584126641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po-u-V6GiEk
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>>584127486
Not a real problem. Buy the owl. Support Forever.
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>>584127486
>>584127560
it's easier than ever now faggot wtf are you talking about
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english lol
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>>584126813
they've shown Velfadin since Legion though
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>>584127448
Yes he is wrong. He is very wrong. I literally just described the perfect and most appropriate time in my post which was the beginning of the expansion. Not the end of it when it lore wise makes no sense cause the vanguard of light got destroyed, the holy leader of the alliance is MIA, the void seemingly won, and arator is going void too.
The second most appropriate time to have added new paladins would have been in that one DF patch with the tyr's hand questline.

This is kind of retarded shit that used to piss me off cause of how nonsensical it is and how the devs are lying cunts. But now forever exists with none of this shit so i can relax and laugh.
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>>584127893
>since Legion though
>Added in patch 10.2.7 "Dark Heart"
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>Portergayge who was in person at the 12.2 panel said the audience was groaning when they started talking about the M+ dungeon rotation
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>>584125028
>>584124839
djelete this
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>best moment of my worlo week was the Gnome Great race

Next week will be even better
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who actually goes out in the world to collect "lumber"
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>>584128801
Jack
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How can I improve my UI to better suit healing
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>>584127586
>he doesn't know
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>>584128801
Me. I mean I tried for a moment. It's so fucking incredibly boring, anti fun, anti everything.
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>>584129086
Looks comfy kino right now, do you feel the need to something better?
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>>584129196
you must be special person
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>>584129312
I'm like playing the game in the background while playing wack a mole with my party frames. I don't know if thats just how healing in WoW is or if its something I can improve with some changes
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>>584129419
Same, don't know if others do different but I "wack a mole" my party frame too and almost don't care about wtf happening outside of this frame
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>>584129086
You should have no blank action bar blocks. Im not even going to attempt to give more advice until you tighten up your spell layout.

Like spells go together.
>bar 1 main rotation
>bar 2 major cds
>bar 3 movement increase and enemy movement decrease spells
>bar 4 is interrupts and anti magic spells
>bar 5 is defensives, read from left to right should be laid out from highest cd to lowest
>bar 6 is trinkets, special spells that require specific timings, etc
>bar 7 is your mount, hearth / teleports, etc
>bar 8 is professions
>bonus action bar is for nonsense like warbound bank, battle pet shit, flight style shit, etc
>class bar 1 is for starting dungeon stuff like buffs, soulstone, healer link, etc

I dont know what your gay ass setup is right now but its cluttered and disgusting. Why do you need to know all the party debuffs on the target, why do you have buffs double displayed.

Clean it up.
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>>584129647
>having action bars at all
NGMI

just put all the stuff you need to see into the CDM including consumables (use a CDM addon like a sane person, default is trash)
have all the misc shit like mounts/professions/items etc on oPie radial menus or similar if you use ellesmere or something

obviously you need action bars to hold your keybinds but just hide the bars (mouseover to show) after setting them up. you don't need to see abilities that don't have cooldowns on the CDM
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>>584130416
We were so optimistic back then. Imagine the Void and Light saga here, hyper Naaru lore, hyper Void lore, real long kino quests/stories about the Ethereal
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>the weird part of the week where you could craft a new weapon but reset is in 2 days
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>>584130649
draewife
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>>584130679
wait
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>>584130762
what if it's actually a shield
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>>584130837
the week is over bro keep waiting
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>>584130416
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>>584127893
https://www.wowhead.com/news/void-elf-paladin-in-patch-10-2-7-hints-at-future-possibilities-339902

She was only added in dragonshite
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>>584130679
just wait bro it's not gonna make a difference for today and tomorrow if you have a 331 shield instead of a 31 shield
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What would Blizz have to announce RIGHT NOW to keep you interested in playing Retail next month?
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>>584130416
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>>584131947
a new secret questline
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>>584131750
https://www.wowhead.com/champion=621/eredar-twins

>Netherlord controls both man'ari sisters
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>>584131947
That TLT is going to be Different and not just Dragonflight 4 in every way from systems to gameplay to story and writing
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>>584131947
just release talebound
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>>584132172
hell yeah i do
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>>584131947
I'm gonna be playing next month regardless, so... whatever.
Announcement of another races theme for housing would at the very least have me think they're not completely stupid though... Like, just stick to a feature you hyped up and follow through with it properly for once. That one seems like it should be easy. I don't even care about housing, but god damn.
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>>584132825
they are adding kultiran exteriors with the roguelike mode
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>>584132873
>we don't want new racial housing designs to roll out as slowly as heritage armor did
>we're proud to announce in the first year of housing we released new designs for Westfall Humans and Kul Tiran Humans, fulfilling our prior promise
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>>584132873
>adding more human themes
I see the monkey paw's middle finger curled...
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>>584133017
Im sure housing is more popular among the alliance devs
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>>584123463
still sneeding the source on those chibi xal pics
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>>584132873
That's gotta be them being uncreative as fuck, right?
Surely they didn't poll that or look at played race numbers or something, they had to have just picked Kul'Tirans because its just fucking human and easier to think new up designs for over other races.

I guess the damn Hallowfall Arathi themes would be next up after!
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>>584132265
they hired john borrowed power (guy who made all the borrowed power in legion-bfa) a year ago
it's gonna be diablo wow again (finally, if you want muh NOOOOO MORE HECKIN BORROWED go to whatever)
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>>584129086
>pressing defensive on a timewalking dungeon
those are easier than regular world activities though, I literally tanked a whole dungeon as dps when the tank DCd
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>>584133536
>Hallowfall Arathi
holy shit such wasted potential all of the Arathi and their Emperor were in War Within... such kino just ignored
but then again we're going to do something with them again now that we're most likely going back to Dornogal to get to the worldcore right...
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you guys think maiev fucked illidan even once during 10,000 years of them glaring at each other through the bars of his cell?
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>>584131947
actually hard timewalking raids, like how M+ gets old raids scaled correctly to the current lvls
I'm tired of having a single raid to do all week, I hate doing a singular day of raiding and then nothing at all the rest of the week
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>>584134030
Maiev is the embodiment of hatefucking
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>>584134043
they did with blackrock depths timewalking raid but everyone bitched it was too hard
but with heroic giving myth vault they can give that another chance, would be fun to mish mashh heroic old gear updated to heroic track
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>>584134243
not him but brd wasnt as hard as heroic nerubar, it was fucking overtuned to hell
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>>584134003
Reinhardt at your service
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>My friend peaches keeps bothering me
>Tell him to stop
>"Stop bothering me peaches"
>Call him a cunt
>"You cunt"

>He takes it way too seriously
>I got a 3 day silence

Was I in the wrong here? "Stop bothering me peaches. You cunt." Seems like a reasonable thing to say when your friend peaches is bothering you.
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>>584135416
cunt is the female nigger word for americans
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>>584119864
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>>584135218
wife
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>>584130416
I liked the updated models
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>>584135675
The truth hurts, huh?
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>>584131947
Mythic Ula'tek buffs because I'll only quit once I kill it.
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>>584136046
lol
you're trolling or you are literal a 70 iq mongrel named shitpreet
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>>584136552
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>>584136552
For comparison.
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>>584136552
Why does Baine look at me like he knows?
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>>584136552
>>584136739
I like how these have the panda leaders but none of the allied races even though they're basically a proto-allied race
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>>584136739
why is lili so tall
??
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>>584136992
>lili
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>>584133685
>they hired john borrowed power (guy who made all the borrowed power in legion-bfa) a year ago
Johnny Cash is on the Forever team
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>>584118591
When I said that, I quoted her directly.
She said challenge, so that's how it's being perceived, be it true or not.
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>>584137196
anon they are all in the retail-forever team
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>>584137434
The Forever devs aren't coming back to retail
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>>584136176
Funny, i was thinking the same about you. Difference is my game is at the top and yours at the bottom so suck it loser.
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https://files.catbox.moe/3zghze.png
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>>584137591
And that's a good thing.
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>>584137591
holy cope
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>>584119864
trying way too hard with your bait champ
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Dose Alliance BOMBOCLATS be tryin' ta take me home...
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>>584137621
Finally some good slop
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>>584138120
You already made this post. You're trying way too hard by samefagging.
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>female dracthyr tail
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doubling down doesn't work on adults lil bro, keep it up though proud of ya
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>>584138181
the alliance pushed a whole landmass to the darkspear islands?
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>>584136681
Kinda crazy that he went from being a tubby little emo boy to being able to legitimately kill every single person in this thread in single combat.
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>>584138181
This another CTF map?
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>>584136552
>>584136739
Why are they all posing like they're trying to take a group picture, they look so lame
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>>584136552
>>584136739
Fuck this game is so fucking shit these days.
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>>584138352
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>do 13
>someone leaves because the tank is bad
>12 is awful since group is low dps but manage to clear
>do 13
>dps dont kick a single time
>10 minutes to get to and kill first boss
>vote abandon
I would legitimately rather run delves for 12+ hours than do a single mplus with these animals.
If I got 1 (uno) myth crest for doing a 11 delve after the first I would choose to do that every single day.
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>>584138556
King of the Hill, actually.
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>>584139052
is this a normie psy op to make me go outside?
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>>584139742
Elf women aren't outside so why would it be
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>>584139359
you do get it after the first, it's the first 4, for a total of 20 myth crests a week
also, just do +10s, the difference in player quality between a +10 or +11 and a +12 is actually absurd, I've overtimed five +12s but I've never had any issues running +10s
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>>584139794
you're right, what was I thinking
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>>584140048
yeah I was going to say after the first 4.
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>>584138459
lol no
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>>584137614
>my game is at the top
you have sub 400k players rn
you're literally delusional, whether or not you're a jeet, you're dalit in spirit
lmfao
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lili is so cute guys
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>>584139052
Gosh, I wish bimbodoreis were real
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>>584141481
>using indian insults to call someone indian which means bad
you should probably go out and talk to normal people, hating yourself this much borders on mental illness
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>>584141187
He's competed in three Muy Thai events.
The fact he was able to compete instantly puts him above a large majority of men, especially you fags in this thread. If he got signed for a Creator Clash, he'd kill basically every other creator invited.
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>>584141481
>making up numbers about a beta
Lol, lmao even

Rest in piss retail.
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>>584141983
fuck you
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It's funny how much of a sheep the average player can be. Suddenly, everyone who was playing retail and enjoying it has now developed fatigue from it and is shilling Forever
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>>584141962
i know what you are
don't try to play the uno reverse card on me dumpreet
>>584142012
the census image has been posted multiple times, they are the only numbers that are available so unless you can cook up something else, go suck your mom's dick asshole
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>>584142380
>no, YOU'RE the indian, here's a screenshot of youtube in indian to prove it
huh?
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>>584142380
Literally who cares?
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>blizz tricked me into resubbing early but venomstones are actually yet another week away
fuuuuuuuckers, guess I get a vault this week at least
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>>584138961
NERD!
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>wotlk remix
now I will finally get the super simian sphere
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>>584142164
>forced to complete mythic raid (weekly) to compete in anything at a high level
>everyone just unsubs en masse instead
>EVERYONE IS A SHEEP IF THEY DON'T LIKE THIS SHIT THAT I'M CHUGGING
holy fucking mazed retard
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>>584142380
>there's no actual numbers available
No shit. Maybe if actual numbers don't exist you shouldn't post about them like a schizo. Especially a beta most people aren't even playing like lmao get real you retard.
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This patch is ass.
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>>583942105
>>583942105
>>583942105
we are al here
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>>584142992
>M+ is not the main character for the first time since Legion
>Game dies
Shame we wasted 10 fucking years pandering to mazerunners
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>>584143286
yes dumb nigger thats the shame not the retarded raid focus
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>>584142818
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>>584143343
>Raiding is the main endgame pve activity
>Game does great
>M+ becomes the main endgame pve activity
>Class design goes to shit, pvp goes to shit, leveling goes to shit, open world goes to shit, story goes to shit, addons go to shit
Yeah, M+ ruined this game.
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fagever jeets need to go to the fagever thread
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>>584143679
>Game does great
lmao yeah bro people loved the legion raids
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>>584143286
>churn out mindless fill-the-bar engagementslop like invasions and azterec vault
>make virtually nothing matter but the final two bosses of a mythic raid that only 2% of the playing population will ever beat once in a 6 month timespan
>game dies
hmm curious indeed
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>>584143785
Truly who could have foresaw this?
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I really tried my best, but i don't feel like playing in this season at all, i just can't anymore and i'm sorry
i see those outfits in bnet shop and just lose hope
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>>584143679
>stop reporting subs during expansion without m+
so true sis
>Class design goes to shit
class design was fine until this expansion
>pvp goes to shit
you can make that argument for dragonflight onwards but it was still decent until this expansion
shadowlands is literally my favorite expansion for arena ever
>open world goes to shit, story goes to shit
has nothing to do with m+
>addons go to shit
the rest of the game is suffering because max and echoke pay for software developers for a shitty race that no one gives a shit about
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>>584143785
>>churn out mindless fill-the-bar engagementslop like invasions and azterec vault
Why do you think is that? Every fucking expansion they waste so many resources on designing the game around M+, otherwise the mazerunners start crying.
>>584143783
>lmao yeah bro people loved the legion raids
I mean, yeah? M+ was still a thing, but more of a side activity back then
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>>584144241
>I mean, yeah?
yeah bro it was so cool when we had so many guilds disbanding because of tomb and m+ kept the game alive lmao
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Hey faggots, if there was no human females in dragon isles or azeroth during the dragqueer time, why do they even have fem humies visage? How does that even make any sense lore wise? dragqueers probably only seen Alexstrasza and Ysera's elf visages before they were forced to sleep for 20k years
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>the "go-go" mentality is a product of m+
>so many classes have aoe garbage baked into single-target activity
>every class has to be able to do everything, otherwise it's gonna drop out of the m+ meta
>every new activity has to be designed not to be more rewarding than m+, or m+ babies quit because they are "forced" to play the mmo and can't just have a lobby simulator. this is the main reason why we end up with so many half-assed activities
>every expansion m+ gets a major rework, thus draining resources from everything else
>dungeons are designed with m+ in mind, so immersion is lost
almost 2027, the game is almost dead, and we're still denying how much of a negative effect m+ has had on the game.
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>>584145315
It was hinted that there was something special about their visages, but the plot got dropped for the Marvel faggotry when Metzen jumbled everything up.
Probably an old mortal race that doesn't exist anymore(probably due to Deathwing taking them to make the Dracthyr).
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>indirect seethe
lol
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>>584145359
Will you faggots ever fuck off back to your own general? It's been at least 5 years now.
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>>584143274
You freaks need psychiatric treatment
For how many months have you been doing this shit?
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>>584141983
zip it up when you’re done lil gup
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>>584146331
LEAVE HER ALONE
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>>584124839
>>584125028
>meanwhile this thread is still alive, /xivg/ has already hit the cap with >>584102780, >>584124745 and they have new thread >>584142736
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>>584146625
we have two threads rn
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>>584143274
good, stay there
I prefer this thread to be slow if it means less furry freaks
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>>584146973
>2 days ago
>18 hours ago
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>>584147035
yes
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>>584146625
3 threads of discordposting, avatarfagging and erp from japanese second life general i’m soooo jealous
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>>584146385
You should actually feel bad about not being able to fight.

>>584146331
He's into fat disgusting faggots, the levels he will stoop to limitless.
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>>584145359
>>every class has to be able to do everything
been like this since mop
>otherwise it's gonna drop out of the m+ meta
pointless endeavor because you're not getting invited unless your the streamer approved spec

the rest of the shit you typed is just delusion
kys raid tranny
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>>584147492
you should feel bad for slobbering on some random dude’s dick and balls, faggot
make sure to rub one out whenever you think about how strong and manly he is nigga lmao
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>>584147035
we are still winning
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Foxfags stay gone, this is a THRILLboar thread
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>>584145359
>the game is almost dead
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I automated my flower garden
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>>584149532
*pisses all over ur faggy garden and kills all the flowers*
oops!
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>>584149604
*grows more*
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>>584149604
nitrogen is really good for any kind of plant life just btw
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>>584149729
what about ammonia
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>>584148702
uh how??
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>>584149202
I don't think so, pig face
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>>584149785
ya
you can't piss enough in one go to kill the plants
now if you made it your personal toilet you could but thats probably going to take a weeks worth of pissing and at that point is it even worth it?
you could just stomp the plot and be done with it
you're going about your vandalism all wrong there, chap
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>>584149202
>there were so many options for new races for both horde and alliance
>get disney furries and MORE elves instead
what the fuck i their problem
give me naga, quillboars, fuck it even gnolls would be a better choice than any addition in the past 10 years
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>>584150001
> you can't piss enough in one go to kill the plants
that’s what you think
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>>584150103
i mean if you carry your collection of piss jugs with you, you might be able to make a dent but otherwise you're shit out of luck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOv9HorOcJo
me n u
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Did you know? Sex with Dracthyr
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MYzKFXVrSE
me and femthyr
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>>584139052
Round...
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tfw no dracthyr bf
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>>584150992
"Femboys" aren't attractive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3CfF8t83e0
me and my hand
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>>584151543
>play dk
>sanlyan is meta
>remember that time the sanlyan elf slammed that tranny gnome
>mfw
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I like using my WoD Challenge Mode transmogs :3
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The player-base is begging for more Jimothy content
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>>584153310
god i wish she would slap me between two burger buns and eat me alive
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>2 days ago
WoW is dead.
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a split /wowg/ cannot survive what's to come...
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>>584153879
>blaming furries for game's death
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>>584154119
You can't bring game back by blaming them
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>>584154138
gonna send nochesty into an autistic frenzy
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>both /wowg/ and /wowfg/ have two threads up
>none are at cap
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wowo is downloading an update
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>>584154756
According to /wowg/ posters this is winning >>584148702
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>>584154138
>>584154352
>>584154805
>>584155054
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Uh oh. Furtranny melite
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Uh oh anti-furtrannies melting
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Guess I made him mad with the "femboy" comment
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>>584155336
Why are pederasts like this? We may never know
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>>584154429
>gonna send *nochesty* into an autistic frenzy

>while the fufag is literally throwing a furry porn spamming tantrum
every furfag accusation is a projected confession.
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Fyi nochesty and others have been making every thread early lmao so yeah, they been having a melty for weeks
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>its ok when we do it
cool
still not posting there lmao
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wow is furry game lil gup
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>>584155801
I made this thread at 750 and its the only one I made of the previous 6 at least. thats as far back as the archive goes and Im not going to dig into the offsite archive like a sperg.
Meanwhile you fuckers have been necroing a furfaggot thread again because people decided not to use the furry threads you keep trying to force and you can't accept losing with dignity.

again
every furfaggot accusation is a projection and a confession, you are actually visibly doing everything you accuse others off.
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wow is actually an elfslop game
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>>584156272
Good.
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furries have the power so they can do whatever they want
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>>584156272
furfags btfo
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>>584155940
you type like a retarded juvenile pavement ape and no one gives a shit what you say because of it.
using ebonic slang because you think its "cool" instantly discredits everything else you think.
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>>584156272
you thought differently?
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>>584156250
Incorrect, if you check going back. Even the recycle thing was popped in there. Nice try though. You can never do anything but lie.
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>>584156447
thanks for giving a shit lil bub
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>>584156447
Truth nuke. I'm so tired of brown zoomers shitting up the thread talking like some porch monkey they worship.
>>
ugh
the thread has gotten so shitty that I might actually PLAY the video game for once
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name one furry that has personally wronged you
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>>584156660
grim
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>>584156469
I love elf women
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>furryposting ends
>elfposting begins
I'm noticing
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>>584156696
that obesity fetishizing furry porn spamming pedophile who just got sent on vacation for one you disingenuous turd.
or are you back to pretending that time when he got janny and spent a week abusing his powers to shit up the thread never happened?

Implying I know these subhumans by name.
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>awkward silence while they are discussin about /wowg/ posting in discord
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>>584156919
it's like a timezone thing
the furries are mostly american while sloppanon who is obsessed with elves is euro
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>>584156696
Trick question tsk because none of them actually ever have been personally wronged by one. Anti furries are just annoying puritans who wish who control others
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Can some domestic terrorst do us a solid and shoot up the next globo meetup? It would solve /wowg/s problems
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Tick tock Nochesty/Aeviliz/Invetera/Ilirael/Caellien/Evansson/Cibyria/Xhali/Castigon/Solaeri

Worgen DH soon
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Vishnu Allah my friends

How is it going?
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>>584156426
itoddlers oh no no no no
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>>584157416
cute!!!
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>>584157416
>I stalk people and attempt to force my fetish onto them.
>Then I awkwardly attempt to intimidate them with the information I have gathered

Not the W you think it is schizotroon.
Not a good look at all.
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name one furry that has brought you joy
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>>584157674
Anal in the Shoah
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Elves>
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>>584157743
I don't do either of those though,
>>584157141
You apparently do.
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>>584157808
All of them made me smile including gay vulpera who just self vacation’d himself. People are just hate others for being different and ill never vibe with that
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>furryposters shitting up thread
>elfposters cleaning the thread
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>>584158056
Nah I hate you for shitting up the thread and I'm a furfag myself. Faggots like him are the reason we all get bad rep
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>>584157808
>Icycrits
>Rudi
>Incestral
>Pozy
>Entangela
>Gisco
>Spitfire
>Jalopy
>Nizbun
>Doutei
>Khubbo
>Dohra
>Potatosock
>Musei
>Runeheal
>Sawicky
>Polywag
>Thaspion
>Ashanari
>Blueno
>Aeyr
>Deathsu
>Empy
>Koragon
>Fey
>Kaite
>Jocelyn
>Danielle
>Fallaa
>Pizzacat
>Lemondo
>Lynris
>Nastytaxi
>Loveoven
>Slaughterloc
>Yolocrits
>Vajeera
>Yorick
>Raichoo
>Roxy
>Kari
>Shiki
>Switch
>Bearheart
>Castelia
>Gruxx
>Dogman
>Froo
>Chen
>Giggleblush
>Linstead
>Pizzaburger
>Healforfun
>Ralph
>Spook
>Nastynate
>Puba
>Mobilitygodx
>Cuckmeup
>Haruna
>Lerou
>Bannix
>Von
>Qtbootygodx
>Playpal
>Niggertrey
>Tau
>Troves
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>>584157141
I think it’s just this guy giving them a bad name
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>>584158184
And you are…?
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Elf posters are just so much better.
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>>584157808
memefox
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Please tell me there's a way for me to blast through quests and dialogue without reading them. My friends are playing heroics and that means I have to fight through the dreadful woke campaign. Does an addon exist to make this easier?
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>>584158265
What do you care?
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>>584158583
Thank you for your cooperation, false flagger. That’s all i needed to hear.
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>>584158546
no, there's a quiz at the end of each chapter. procedurally generated by AI so you can't look up a guide.
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>>584157808
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>>584158713
>um if you dont avatarfag you are a faslefalgger
Literally proving my point.
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>>584158772
who tf is this
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>>584158861
If you don't know Joy aka kennie you're too new to this general
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>>584158754
You fucking liar. If this turns into a social engineering security task like at work...
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>>584158852
*pulls fish up*
Does that have that meaning to you
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I clicked on skip to ulathek on an alt and the void orb / sunwell shit is still there and it says I need to finish that campaign despite having done it with my main eons ago what gives?
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>falseflag attempt
We should say good things about our avatarfriends.
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>>584159301
you WILL read the progressive stories and like it!
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what happened to Housing? does anyone still use it? I don't even remember it exists
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>>584156272
I wonder why?
Maybe the other popular mmos can resolve this conundrum.
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Why do modern Japanese games depict war more seriously and convincingly than WARcraft?
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>>584159927
Warcraft has always been about genderpolitics chud
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>>584158461
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>>584158546
there's no need to ever read quests anymore
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>>584159927
Those games are trying to tell stories and aren't about anguished hacks trying to offload all their guilt for a 5 year old fake lawsuit onto their customers
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>>584159249
Take your meds
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elfs for the elfs game
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>>584160864
impregnate
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binding of kithix HYPE
HYPE
HYPE
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>>584161079
elf/draenei game
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>>584161079
>>584161205
>draetroons trying to fit in
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wife.
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Draenei women are basically Night Elf women in heels with horns
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How common are half-breeds in WoW lore? We see human-elf halfs, and a draenei-orc half (which might have been forced by magic), but they don't seem to come up much.
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>>584156272
Draenei females are being kept down by not having a male playerbase not fair!
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You now manually remember when Conan O'Brien went to BlizzCon for a Clueless Gamer episode and when J. Allen Brack showed him a female Draenei in character creation he went "can't we just stay on this screen"
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>>584161674
>>584161716
>>584161742
Easy, hotshots, easy
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>*me walking around the /wowg/ neighborhood with my crank hanging out*

Any you HOLES interested?!
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>>584161836
need draenei wife
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>naga freaks
uh
racist goblin slut
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>from furryposting to elfposting to draeneiposting
I'm noticing
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>>584161512
>if you ignore elves in a cave for too long they turn into spiders
kinda weird
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>>584162028
desu it's actually trolls
leave troles near magic too long and they turn into elves
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>>584162115
They should have the opposite happen for a change
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>>584161512
>>584162028
>>584162115
>gay trolls who stay too long near magic turn into elves
>now they are gay elves
>gay elves turn into gay spiders
That might explain why elf players are always trannies.
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>>584162028
Elves are just like the Gremlins from that movie, they adapt into pretty much anything
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>look at me
>look at me
>i hate elves!!
shutup nigga
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who are you talking to lil bro
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>>584162658
it's just a furry mad that nobody actually plays the race they like
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do draenei need regular hoof pedicures like horses do?
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Yes, they are real, and they can cut glass. (Removed in patch 9.1.5)
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>>584162805
they get them from their human male husband
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>>584161978
Naga Men
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>>584163230
That husband being me, yes. It's like this but with a grinder
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>>584163296
Hemi?
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>>584163592
POV: Not you
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>>584163592
POV: Me
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>>584163592
POV: definitely me
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>>584163592
POV: You're a big black dracthyr cock
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>>584132172
warlocks can actually summon them as long as they're in the legion expansion areas

wish they were just regular summons though
come on blizz, throw the warlocks a bone
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>>584163592
POV: You're a modern Stormwind human male
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>>584164064
this
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>vodka dieded
>northern sky dieded
this patch is like raider 9/11. shadowlands can't hold a candle to the damage midwoke has done to the game.
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>>584165107
>this patch is like raider 9/11
lol no this patch is nothing compared to tos
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>>584165107
>>northern sky dieded
who the fuck is going to make the obnoxious addon packs now??
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>>584165107
7.2 was raider 9/11 and even more blatantly so when the game was otherwise being received warmly
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looking at the windwalker bis, why in the fuck would you play guillotine and the mastery polearm instead of amanmuso + the haste sword??
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>>584165901
yeah thats weird, that trinket is lik e10% of your damage with the bonus
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>>584165107
another perfect storm, but this time it's something that blizzard did deliberately. midnight clearly suffers from a lack of resources since they've been using "our" devs to work on forever
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>>584165724
I suppose the difference here is that outside of the garbage raid not much else in this expansion seems to have been received well. Classes were lobotomized, add-ons nuked, the story is truly horrendous. Perhaps housing and the cash shop drops are the only things people seem keen about. New mini-patch is in a day and there's been barely anything from Blizz about it. All eyes seem to be on Forever at the moment.
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Don't ask a proud member of the Horde the race of his wife or her husband
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>>584167134
Tauren, of course
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>>584167134
Worgen obviously
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>>584167134
Dwarf of course.
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I just came back to retail and I actually like this expansion. I wish it was more popular
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Was Karesh supposed to be an entire zone in Nightmare but we got Harandar held back from TWW instead? Why/
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>>584168695
what is nightmare?
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>>584168360
manari are for redeeming
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>>584167134
>his wife
they are all cucks obsessed with other horde member's cocks
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>>584156272
If you take out all the druid bots and the people who run Night Elf solely for Shadowmeld in end game content, then they'd be lower than Humans desu
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>>584168695
K'aresh wasn't even on the plan list during Danusers version of War Within. It was a last minute pivot/rush job reusing as many assets as they could because Harandar got delayed an expansion.
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>>584168747
Emerald Dream / Nightmare
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>>584168768
No they're for supporting on their villainess ways
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>>584168768
SAAR DO NOT
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>>584162805
they have cloven hooves, horses don't
they need to be trimmed too
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>>584168827
I run nelf because of the idle animation
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>Be Warlock
>Be a class that's been in the game since vanilla
>Never allowed to go out in the world and tame demons like hunters get to their pets and even end up losing demons as years ago on despite Blizz adding more and more demons
>Have a spec called Demonology that traded it's fantasy from turning into the demon to being a demon army commander
>Can't actually summon any of the cool demons you'd want to summon as a demon army commander all while unholy dk's pulling liches out it's ass
>Despite being the slayer of Archimonde who Gul'dan recognizes, the Netherlord who tamed the Eredar Twins you're not even allowed to have a Eredar pet and that's never gonna happen now because Moonguard decided they were dindu nuffin good people
>Get a hero spec about summoning powerful demons but you can't actually keep them up for longer than 10 seconds and you don't even get to pull a Pitlord out of Twisting Nether to kill shit, you're only allowed half of one.
How do we fix the Warlock Class Fantasy?
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Male Human models are so ugly why do they have one single good hairstyle.
My boyfriend and i wanna play humans and we literally can't make characters that don't have the same hair and face.
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>>584169160
>>584168747
I meant Midnight, what the fuck my brain

>>584169025
Did TWW need Karesh? Seems like it already had enough zones and added islands.
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>>584170394
every patch need a new zone
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>>584170394
Yes and no. For the original story? Not at all. For setting up Midnight in the mess of a way they wanted? Apparently yes. K'aresh needed to happen so they could move Xal'atath off world and delay all the world core shit and justify a road trip to Quel'thalas for an expansion, but at the end of the day both K'aresh and Midnight really just exist as a need to jerk off the Void Elves.
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>>584170070
Diabolist not giving you access to the Eredar twins will always be a blunder
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So how are they going to make Xal'atath good? They obviously aren't going to kill her off this expansions because it's a trilogy and they've built up no actual other villains, plus they would never kill off a female anymore, so is she just going to fuse with Azeroth and become good next expansion?
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>>584170806
idk but sylvanas will be involved
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>>584170806
she is irrelevant now that we know the titans unleashed the robot
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>>584170806
She won't become good, she'll remain as she's been this entire trilogy so far. A plot device that just pushes shit forward. She'll probably fuse with Azeroth in some form, go to Northrend to meet Iridirkon since they moved him there in a book to set up this trilogy. Then you'll probably just become an Alliance of convenience once the Titans show up and prove to be the bigger bad before she fucks off at the end of the expansion with Azeroth to go do Azshara shit offscreen for the next few xpacs until Blizz wants to rehire her VA.
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>>584136552
Thrall came back?
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>>584170070
to be honest, the warlock class quest in legion was the most I've ever felt like a warlock. Doing strange magic as part of a cabal, summoning things we couldn't handle, stealing weapons from the legion to handle those things we couldn't handle, taking over the pit lord's plane and stealing his army, etc. etc.
As a day 1 vanilla warlock who was deeply saddened by the removal of the warlock pet quests (and especially the dreadsteed quest), Legion was the best expansion ever.

I am otherwise continually disappointed.

And give me my fucking twins, Blizzard. They already work for me. I don't even care if they're shit, just let me replace summon felguard or whatever with twins.
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>>584171161
since bfa
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>>584170806
>we are about to kill Xal'atath after her monologue why she did all these things
>Sylvanas out of nowhere stops it and starts monologue about life, death and what she did learn about it in shadowlands
>Xal and Sylvanas redeemed
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>>584136552
That's sorta the thing about Horde leader-ship. You know just by being a Horde leader they're gonna be treated like shit time and time again, but it really does sorta keep the underdog mentality the faction and leader-ship has always had.

Meanwhile it's hard to really care for any of the Alliance leaders post the initial batch because they're never the under-dog and just getting promotions for the sake of promotion
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>>584171316
But we couldn't do that for Arthas who they literally told us was thrown into the maw wrongly
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>>584171316
>and then xal and sylvanas kiss
>big fat smooch
>devolves into full on lesbian sex right on screen
>no censorship
retail saved
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>>584171194
They really just need to hire someone who enjoys the fantasy of what Warlock should mean again. Cause who ever is in charge of the class design and theming these days just isn't it.
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>>584171437
That's my warchief!
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>>584171437
Xal'atath will identify as a they/them, it will be lesbian erasure
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>>584171392
Arthas is white male and literal nazi
You punch nazis in the face because they are pure evil
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Draenei are for becoming cute slave wives
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>>584171437
You might be gay
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>>584171194
it isn't the same thing, but I wonder if the new warlock dnd game is going to be anything good
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>>584170531
I want Void Elves to jerk me off.
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>>584171194
play demo
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they all have the same face lol
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>>584172194
>mfw seeing some gay ass cutscene pop up
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>>584170806
We are literally going to defeat her in the next raid, and she will merge with Azeroth in some way which will cause the Titans to come back to try and fix it. This is already well-established.
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>>584172194
>same face
No wonder warcraft is so gay and boring
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>>584136952
Probably cause when you start throwing on the allied races the line up just looks a lot more like a mess, especially when some don't have clear leaders.
Meanwhile Ji fits fine on Horde because Chen exists and Male Panda always looks like it fits on Horde. Then you got his cumdump on the Alliance looking like she's just left a show like Barney, a Bear in the Big Blue House if you will.

Not like they bothered even doing any allied race or Pandaren models for the D&D game either yet
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>>584172194
They all got that vaguely aware SSRI look, only capable of either ambiguous happiness or ambiguous skepticism
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>>584172616
>Meanwhile Ji fits fine on Horde because Chen exists and Male Panda always looks like it fits on Horde
Not even invited to the warchief's meetings btw
Literally stuck in the allied race cuckshed
Source: that cinematic where saurfang spat his drink out
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Pandaren were supposed to be Alliance in TBC btw

"fits on the Horde" my fucking ass
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>>584172996
You're telling me, the devs who put a Elf race on Horde because Alliance already had an Elf race were gonna put a furry race on Alliance because Horde already had a furry race? I'm shocked.
And yes, Pandaren always looked like it fit in with the Horde more because of Tauren.
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ᵈᵒᵍ ᶦn
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>>584172996
>>584173173
pandas helped vashj and kael'thas rescue illidan from maiev
they're monsters who deserve ten thousand deaths
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literally getting declined for 18s as bdk
what in the fuck man
the parse faggotry has gone too far
i literally got 1% last season with 6 grey logs
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>>584173548
shouldnt have said the nword chuddy
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>>584173438
I'll think about it.
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>>584173446
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>Won't ever get a Warcraft 4 because too many races merged into Horde and Alliance over the years and Nig Elf fans won't accept having to take a backseat to Humans in an Alliance campaign.
It's never been so over.
At this point the only hope is they do a West Horde campaign, East Horde campaign, West Alliance campaign, East Alliance campaign.
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wait, AOTC ends in 2 days? fuckk
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>>584174423
the fuck are you talking about nigga? is not even 2027
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It will never stop bothering me that Warlocks use red fire and Mages use green fire.
> But anon if you spend 9999 hours grinding or 99999 gold on a tome you can have green fire!
Non canon and Sargeras still red fire. Why mages use fire if it's a warlock thing? Why warlocks use fire if it's a mages thing? It's boring. Two classes shouldn't have the exact same spec with the exact same spells.
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>>584174248
Actually, though they have been too focused on the World Soul Saga to look into it, the Night Elves have basically left the Alliance to tend to their new home in Amirdrassil. Most of the factions don't have much unity anymore.
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>>584174423
AotC ended like 24 years ago
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>>584174859
>Non canon
This guy isn't Of the Black Harvest. Lmao
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>>584174465
I don't know why I thought AOTC Ulatek would end with the release of Kith'ix
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>>584174859
>xhe didn't get green fire when it was relevant content
tomes are only 7k gold btw, that's like 5 WQs
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Oh yeah, you're a Warlock? Name every fuckable Demon
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>>584174897
The whole state of the world is the most vague and unclear it's ever been. Midnight's main plot effectively relies on the entire planet outside of Quel'thalas being completely frozen in time until Arator steps into a scene. The Kirin Tor are a perfect example because TWW establishes them as still being active in some form. Where did they go, what are they doing, what does their organization even look like? Who knows. Who is running Stormwind right now? Who knows, we're told that everyone loved Anduin by the end of the 4th War but apparently the populace is okay with being ruled over by a bunch of foreigners while their beloved king is completely MIA for a decade. Absolutely nothing matters outside of what is directly on screen in the writers' eyes.
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>>584175134

8k my ass
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realistically if the factions dissolved azeroth would erupt into dozens of regional wars and conflicts, but the way blizzard is going they'll explain that all violence will cease and all nations dissolved peacefully because everyone feels the healing love of azeroth's spirit by the end of last titan
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>>584175443
>xhe doesn't buy auction house items via the warbank
ngmi
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>>584175413
That's easy: all of them.
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>>584175672
What regional wars can even happen on Kalimdor? The Draenei are the only race with an actual settlement over there and it's on a island far off the mainland.
The Night Elves lost the culture war and moved the centre of their civilization off Kalimdor to the Dragon Isles. It's not like it's gonna be exactly hard to get rid of the last few settlements considering what happened last time.

Then over in the Eastern Kingdoms, Forsaken and Blood Elves have soft control over the North because the Gilneans have shown time and time again to be bad at war.
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uh oh
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>>584175418
>Night Elves
Don't want anything to do with the Alliance which keeps getting them dragged into conflicts which culminated in Darnassus being destroyed, just want to tend to Amidrassil
>Humans
Basically the Alliance now, but leaderless with no clear political goals
>Dwarves
Have mostly reclaimed their ancestral lands, reunited, and established their succession (outside of game I might add)
>Draenei
Focused on building a new capital city, don't really have any stake in factional politics
>Void Elves
Welcome in Silvermoon now, may as well be folded into Blood Elves
>Worgen
Unironically allied (rebuilding with) the Forsaken now
>Other races
Who cares

Faction war is dead. IMO instead of trying to spark it again after repeated end of the universe expansions and getting rid of everyone who made it make sense (Jaina, Thrall, etc), they should just have peace reign and remove all faction restrictions as a point of difference to Classic and Forever. It would consolidate the player base and let you go to zones you haven't before. What's the alternative? Faction war with Tess, Arator, and Umbric fighting... uh... Lilian Voss? Gazlowe? Thalyssra?
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>>584175906
>Gilneans be bad at war.
that was the old kingdom
we're under new management
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draenei women have about a 90% chance of having a fat horse cock
but man'ari have a 100% chance
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If you want to start another faction war all you need to do is right the Eredar as no longer dindus but have them instigate, then have a Dreadlord infiltrate the Horde, probably as a Goblin for a war profiteer angle and instigate Horde sie.
It's that easy.
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>>584176189
All of this is true but just highlights how retail is a complete dead end for the timeline now. 99% of all problems are fixed and they don't bother to introduce any new ones, nor does any character have any ambition or desire to do anything except gestate in hibernation and call it "peace". The story is basically over except a random new cosmic force that is identical to the last one in every way except primary color invades every 1.5 years and we fend it off with zero real losses or meaningful change to Azeroth. People were mad at the story in BfA and SL but I think now everyone just doesn't care anymore, there's nothing left to care about and Blizzard doesn't see this as a problem
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>>584176707
>right
Write*

>>584176713
Of course they don't see the problem. If they saw the problem they would've done a new MMO with a massive timeskip to breathe some life back into the setting. Instead Holly was like you'll enjoy post WC3 Forever and Ever. The setting is being held hostage by it's inability to move on from WC2 and 3.
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>>584176603
Women don't have dicks you fag
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Why is Arcane and Fel so addictive but you never see someone thirsting after Nature magic?
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why does chinese wow have so much more shit than global wow?
they really do make better games over in the orient, they should take over retail wow
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>>584177637
>no skeletons
the real reason necromancers will never be a thing
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>>584177637
You faggots can't stop bitching about store mounts but the chink gacha is good now?
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>>584177637
Because Blizzard and Netease had a messy breakup years back and after Netease went full bitter ex and did a bunch of shade-posting on social media involving drinks, Blizzard ultimately went back to their toxic ex after Microsoft said get back into China. Now Netease has Blizzard bent over backwards thanks to their previous breakup and are allowed to get as much exclusive shit as they want be it WoW, OW or Hearthstone. And even get to dictate the direction of the games go.
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>>584177795
they're ugly, it's justified
if chinkwow made a good goonerbait race store exclusive, I'd pay
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So wow forever is pretty much gonna eclipse retail…

What now?
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>>584177987
Same as we always do: buy the pig.
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>>584177391
Would have been cool to have the world soul saga be about that. Each patch be about the dangers of each aspect of magic and really turn the fucked upness of it up to 11.

Have us basically lose at the end and have it culminate in a Crisis of Infinite Earths/Great Reset type thing.
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>>584178360
Was never gonna happen because they toyed around with trying to do a focus on death in SL and everyone hated it. Now they're just gonna vague post about the dangers of all magic which will amount to nothing like with Turalyon.
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>>584177987
install forever and play it for a month like everybody else
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>>584177742
just replace the skeletons with generic boneless forsaken, easy
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I'll never get the hype around Ardenweald.
How do you do a fae realm of death and don't lean more into all the evil fairy shit and instead go full tinkerbell.
I blame the Night Elves.
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>>584178952
What hype? People just like the zone
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>>584178360
I just finished reading Crisis and the whole time I was thinking how cool it would have been for Warcraft to do it with a big reset at the end but then they announced Forever so it's kinda pointless.

You could even have the whole windrunner family sacrifice themselves for no good reason!
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>>584178994
The zone looks ass as well. It's just another generic Night Elf forest. We get them almost every expansion.
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>>584178696
>install forever and play it for a month
>install retail and play the new patch for a month

what happened to this game man
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>>584179274
Holly Longdale.
It's how they intend you to play wow ever since she came on board.
Retail in a content drought? Look over at classic, new content for you to play.
Classic players waiting for new content to be announced? Can't do that cause the schedule currently has retail for the news cycle.
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Ever since they killed turtle and ascension the tooling side of WoW has gone parabolic. Why the fuck haven’t they released a WoW as a platform service like roblox?

If tooling keeps up pace, alot of people are just gonna run their own custom servers with bots.
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>>584179274
>>584179394
Concertroll trannies lmao pretending this is not a seasonal game since fucking tbc
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>>584179469
Holly was already onboard when TBC classic came out unc. We know it's been like that since tbc, she made the problem. Get with the times.
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>>584179405
you answered your own question
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>>584179394
this is such cope

Classic and Retail synced up pretty quickly after launch, i remember people complaining about it because it seemed like it would be make the most sense to alternate.
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humans should just die off and let elves ruin the entire universe for everyone
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>>584180706
I want a Night Elf wife so badly
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anyone wanna push 3600 NA? got spots for tank+DPS or 2 dps idc at this point I'll just tank it
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>>584180706
Humans don't even need to die off for that to happen, they're already ruining the entire universe for everyone.
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>>584175418
Do we have a rough timeline of what timespan the game has taken place in? Like BC was over the span of x amount of years, sort of deal
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>>584181081
There is a timeline like wow happened 4 years after tft
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>>584181081
Yes, that's basically what Chronicles were for.
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Timeline
Last Titan according to this timeline should be 20 years in universe since the events of vanilla kicked off.
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>>584180774
I want an undead wife who gets a happy future instead of being condemned to a life of misery in an abominable existence after a horrible death and resurrection against her will
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>>584181228
The wiki monkeys need to update the timeline. They haven't even added Forsaken Kingdom to it yet.
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shouldn't our player characters be old as fuck at this point

then again with chromie time existing i guess it doesn't matter
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>>584181252
alternate end where she's purged in the name of justice
being killed as an innocent twice
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>>584077008
No her mog is retarded doesn't match at all. I can't be seen with that.
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>>584181509
They are not going to add non canon events from another timeline
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>>584181632
And when Forsaken Paladins join the game in 12.2 and glaze Garek like their life depends on it, will you concede it's canon?
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>>584181775
lmao lil bro doesnt know cotner wrote the forsaken paladin lore for retail
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>>584181228
>20 years
Man the populations must be devastated as hell
Multiple large wars with big casualties on both sides, multiple big catastrophes
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>>584181917
You're acting like Cotner wouldn't take the chance to write an entire questline using Anya as a mouth piece while the actual Forsaken Paladin lore plays second fiddle
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>>584182068
like she gives a fuck about a random undead belf lol she is one of the velf cunts
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>>584129086
just look up some rwf/top healers and copy their layout (driney,nick,ricn etc.)
i would say castbar/manabar is too bigh and too high
probably don't need your utility/big healing cooldown directly under (put them to the left/right)
raid frames are too low
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i just applied to 15 guilds
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>>584182021
Not like population really mattered to begin with in wow. High Elves and Void Elves both prove the numbers never really matter. Every race could go through 5 genocides and at end of the day that shit won't matter or have an affect as long as none of the notable characters are killed off like the Night Elves had 0 notable casualites.
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>>584179405
They really should open that shit to the public and let players host custom servers.
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>>584182304
>none of the notable characters are killed off like the Night Elves had 0 notable casualites
I remember during the bfa prepatch one anon spent weeks complaining because they killed his random npc waifu.
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>>584182624
If it was the ranger bitch Sylvanas makes watch the tree burn, then she was invented by BFA for BFA.
Other-wise it's just a bunch of vendors.
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>>584182713
Nah it was a random trainer/vendor .
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>>584179405
>If tooling keeps up pace, alot of people are just gonna run their own custom servers with bots.
the average person has no idea how to set up an emulator or adblock
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>he doesnt go to goldshire on the weekends
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>>584075604
>25 hours ago
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(Me)????
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ok i got 3600 on two characters
what're the odds the spaghet code gives me 2 nooses on tuesday?
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>>584184040
0
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>>584183995
>regular people
what the fuck is this gobshite prick trying to say?
fuck you fat potato faggot
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>>584172996
>>584173173
trick question, the panderen dont fit anywhere because they are furfag garbage
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>>584181252
aged millk.......
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Can you guys stop playing drae? I'm trying to level up other races but whenever I see someone playing a draenei I just want to be playing that instead
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Why did they have to ruin this with Sylvanas' stupid shouting face?
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>>584184832
She is a banshee
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>>584184604
cute but you can go back, traitor
fuck you
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drae are dook bro no one plays them but gooners
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>>584184604
>big titty sassy satyr
eh im with it
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Oh hey they nerfed kithix loot after all the shitposting
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>>584186149
yea it's kinda shit now with 2 bombs for almost everyone....does the ring just make the rogue gap even worse or does it somehow work for casters
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stuck on 6/8M guy is now stuck on 7/8M
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>>584186462
I'm sure it's normalized like most of those items
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>>584186514
>they nerfed ulatek so much we got the last 100 hof kills this week
he is not going to be stuck for long
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are gnome men ostracized by the community? I wanna make a cool little gnome guy but I don't want people to think I'm a sick freak
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>>584186786
I'm goimg to be honest with you bro no one gives a fuck
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>>584186864
that's good I guess, I just don't wanna be like a lalafel player or whatever
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>>584186786
I'm going to be honest with you bro Gnome men are supposed to be goofy, nobody takes them seriously
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>>584186786
embrace being a sick freak
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>>584187125
>>584187125
>>584187125
>>584187125


move on, it's been 26 hours



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