Crisis on Infinite Azeroths edition>October Trading Post:https://www.wowhead.com/news/october-2026-trading-post-bilebound-urzul-mount-and-wizard-cat-383229Useful Linkshttps://www.wowhead.com/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/https://warcraft.wiki.gg/https://murlok.io/https://housing.wowdb.com/>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)>NA<GLOBOFOMO>>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>Previous >>584075604 (Cross-thread)
>no red eyesy tho
2 days until 12.1.5 and no one gives a shit
How come no one is interested in The Last Titan?
>>584187227its what the green eyes are for
>>584187267because all I care about is elf women
>>584187227They have green eyes not red
>>584187267episode 3 of the Forever Podcast has nearly more views in 3 days than TLT/Midnight does in 3 weeks.
>>584187234I give a shit, but about other things.like wow dnd book looks great
>>584187465idk why that show is boring as fuck and they only invite their good goys on the show, not anyone thats going to actually grill them , ranjesh
>>584187465why is he scared of the little man in the picture-in-picture
>>584187234i'm excited to get my cantrip weapon and helm from this raidsadly i can't bonus roll it on my alt for another two weeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTbd8BNY4gIWhere did she go, she just popped up in this and never came back
>>584187760luv me aus' birdssimple as
>>584187608The wow dnd book is really fucking good
>>584187227What is the lore for why literal demon people came to work for the Alliance?
>>584187749i already know i'm rolling the shitty 2h sword first>>584188221repenting eredar
>>584188221cool it with the anti-semitism
>>584188221because draenei were genocided by orcs?
>>584188221velen went "oh ok" and let them join
>>584187368this is the dream
>>584188330I remember the day the orcs invaded argus...
>>584188506depends which draenei lore retcon you want to believe in, as there's many of them
>>584188330The Eredar were the ones doing the genociding
>>584188221I just did this quest for the first time about 3 days ago, so I can tell you:Broken draenei dude in Legion was like "Valen, I have someone who wants to meet with you."Valen shows up, thinking it was just like a fun and happy meeting, but then an eredar dude walks out.After some initial hostility that went nowhere, Eredar dude is like "some of us are kinda sorry. like I know we burned worlds and killed an uncountable number of beings and all that, and nothing can ever repay that, but maybe can we be friends again now that Sargaras is dead?"Valen says "Mmmnyo."To which Eredar guy goes "What if I brought you a super special crystal?"Valen says "mmnyes"player character and Eredar guy go get the crystal and return.Valen says "Did not believe it at first, but giving me this crystal is all the proof I need that you're truly and honestly atoning. Why don't you come down to the exodar for some tea and we can trade stories over the glowing purple crystals."Eredar guys says "tight, I got some great stories of genocide that... oh... uh well, I'll make something up that's good." and they walk off together.player and the broken dude look at each other and the broken dude shrugs. "eh, it'll work out."THE END<please clap>
>>584188741love how blizz writes race lore. reminds me of the night elf heritage armor quest, which completely shits on their societal fundamental beliefs and Wardens as a faction
>>584188221they're just chill like thatthey may be literal demon that have killed millions, but they're still more tolerable than orcs
>>584188741Thanks anon, I only remembered the crystal and none of the details.
>>584188892People can shit on them but at least the eredar questline make sense with their current draenei plan, the nelf heritage is pure nosense shit
>>584188892I think that's the worst one of the lot, I did that the other day and wanted to die the whole time. The scaling is also so fucked, I got two-shot by imps playing a Vengeance Demon Hunter.
>>584188892I have no idea why they did the night elf heritage the patch before Amirdrassil, they couldn't do anything with the race because it was about to get main story content so they literally just repeated a vanilla escort quest
>>584189152Amirdrassil was barely any story content the raid was just about the dragons getting their powers back, then there was some story afterwards where nothing happens and then they get that ghetto of beladash or whatever it's called.
maybe everyone should have joined the burning legion
>>584189792maybe if they gave me an elfwife
>>584190416sorry, elfs are all sold out ever since illidan rebelled (again). Might I interest you in a sayaad? They like flaying people alive more than they like sex, but at least they look good doing it.
>>584190647but I love elf women :(
>>584190820tlt will be the goblin/gnome girl expansion
My subscription is up in a week, but since I bought the WoW Forever Collector's Edition I have 30 days coming in two weeks. I want to buy a 12-month sub so I can get good value and the 4 mounts, should I just do it in the next week? Or should I go a week without playing for some reason I'm not seeing, and then add the 12-months after the 30 days?
>>584190904
>>584187125I like how Turalyon has his head tilted away, like he's legitimately disgusted by the face of his son.I don't blame him.
>>584190820psstTake the sayaad. They can charm the first elf you come across.
>>584188221They said they were sorry and Velen said "Okay cool.".And then the Draenei, Broken, Lightforged and these totally repented Man'ari fucks went on a hunting party in Bloodmyst Isle because it was long overdue for a demonic cleansing. So it was a big bonding experience for them.
>>584191602The lightforged didn't show up during the heritage quest, did they? I only remember three draenei (plus me).
>>584191889No but they are part of the act 2 in midnight
>>584191889>>584192048Yes they did.They were hanging around like everyone else.
>>584192263Oh I don't remember them being around
>>584190647its not ecen funny how much more the incubus is dexualized
>>584192263>>584192714they were at the party thing, but they didn't go on the Bloodmyst Isle hunt
>>584192928Oh yeah I guess this is the right answer.It was mostly for the non-kosher Draenei to prove themselves in front of Velen.
Okay Draenei lorefags, explain to me the following:>Light-Forged Death Knights>Eredar Death Knights>Light-Forged Warlocks
>>584193007I just want to know what they are doing after the .7 set up
>>584188892eh it's about as good as you can get for an out of nowhere story in DF about making playable man'ari, the quest designer even said on video the idea was come up with first and then they volunteered to try making it actually work in the plot.draenei are like the only race that currently feels like it has some kind of ongoing story still and isn't in total stasis and also don't feel like a legion of clones of whoever their racial leader is at the time
>>584193021If you play a warlock, you get this long dedicated questline that explains why there are lightforged warlocks.The gist of it is "to fight fire with fire".As for the DKs, they're just there like any other DK after Wrath.>>584193072I feel like the Naigtal thing went kinda nowhere, basically just some background story for the player to get the voided warframe mount.
>>584193021Gameplay>lore
>>584193203>draenei ongoing storyReally? I feel like draenei have barely been utilized ever. They're always around, but rarely ever feel like they're a part of the greater world. Even in TBC when they were introduced, they were just kinda there. Legion was their biggest moment and even that got overshadowed by Illidan and his edgy elfs.
>>584193328Literally forget this place and Val exist.
>>584193447by all means their story should have just ended with the legion's defeat, but since DF they've had a lot going on in the background. velen's long-term goal seems to be trying to reunify all the eredar scattered to the cosmos, at first this was just with the penitent man'ari in their questline and the heritage but now it extends to the ones left behind on nashabor, which continues in the 12.0.7 planets where that story ends with the draenei in the story leaving to go update velen about nashabor. on azeroth the heritage concludes with the reveal that they're planning to build a new city like shattrath.compare that to almost any other race and they have nothing going on now, no plans or goals or anything. there's an entirely offscreen plot about tension between the nobles and commoners in stormwind but other than that almost every other race is just sitting around doing nothing for all we know
>>584193447If you pay any attention to Voidstorm quests, you encounter these stranded draenei who splintered off of the Velen's followers.If you play a draenei, you can actually understand what they talk about since they only speak draenic.You help them make a portal, but one of them stays behind to close the portal safely and she then hangs around.Then in Naigtal, you discover another abandoned draenei settlement that the ethereals raid for what is left there and with that one aforementioned draenei chick, you piece some shit together and eventually get the mount.Which, like I said, was a bummer, that this cool side story turned out like that, but maybe they'll make something out of it.
I feel like the man'ari joining the Horde would have been a good parallel for the orcs overcoming their corrupt ways
>>584194424that would have required a whole new race creation, not just a color swap
>>584194576
>>584195371elves are more important than any other speciesmore news at 11
>>584191889It was all four factions on the Hunt, but it was only highlighting the three main ones, because the Broken dudes from Argus are still anti-social, so they went hunting on their own stealthily.Lightforged didn't do much mind you, but they were present. Because the whole Draenei Heritage quest was about coming back together as a people so they were involved, but it wasn't their event.
Man they really gotta give more incentive to do higher keys. I've done all 12s for a resil key and just stopped there for the sake of an unchanging key, but I just wanna plow through 10's for vault. But I just see a list of so many 13's-15's all full besides tank that I could easily do... But I just don't want to. Why does anyone even want to go that high for no gain besides bigger number that resets each season.
>>584187267BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING FAGGOT FANFICTION SHIT MADE FOR JANNY TRANNY PEDOPHILES
>>584187267because midnight is fucking garbage and wow2 is coming out in less than a month
>>584196852This is gay
>>584197010>wow2
>>584197248Is it gay if the balls have rotted off?
>>584198323Is this describing the cope of Foreverfags thinking things will totally be different this time?Cause god knows majority of those staying on Retail are doing so because they don't give a fuck.
hello my is sanjesh dupreeti got paid by some gringo on fiverr to shit up your thread 24/7 for months on enddeal withi have no shamei am a poojeetand i am pooping in the street called wowg
>>584198495>>584198512>anger
>truth
i'm not angryi'm just hornyand there are no draenei in forever so i will not play foreversimple as
>>584198635>hiding the Midnight trailer views in your convenient screencapYou can keep calling everyone that realises that Retail is a sinking ship brown but it ain't gonna change anything
>>584198635Do Indians give a shit about WoW?
>>584198950indians don't care, they just like getting paid.it's very convenient that this happened though so now anytime anyone talks shit about retail or compares it to Forever we can just post this picture and laugh at indians instead
>>584198746i'm not hiding anything the thread needs to know that ai(actual indans) are shilling fagever and they should disregard any mention of it fagever will crater worse than sod or sl and we'll back to business as usual>>584198950they do if someones paying them, clearly
>>584198635>i'm not hiding anythingwhoever made the screencap conveninetly left out that the midnight trailer isn't getting many views as seen here: >>584187267>they should disregard any mention of itSo you don't think ANYONE is excited for Forever? Seems like crazy cope dude
>>583942105real thread here btw
>>584199786they did this again? how embarrassing
>>584199786Don't like foxes
>>584196364They're full of shitters going for the seasonal mount.Also slightest bump in the road makes them start abandon - which, if it doesn't go through, makes the initiator idle at the dungeon entrance.
>>584199469>whoever made the screencap conveninetly left out that the midnight trailer isn't getting many views as seen herestrawmani didn't post that, take it up with them, nevermind i don't see how a trailer from last year is relevant to the conversation in the first place no one in this general will tell you that retail is attracting players however they will tell you that the game has a dedicated playerbase that will buy the new box regardless of how bad the last one was>So you don't think ANYONE is excited for Forever? Seems like crazy cope dudei never said thati personally am looking forward to the game but anyone seeking to chat about itt should be viewed with suspicion because theres already a general for it, why would you not post there about fagever instead of here? its reeks of an agenda so kindly fuck off there, or chat about retail
>>584188221Demons in worlo don't mean evil. It just means it belongs to Sargeras.
>>584200350trailers were from blizzcon nigga
>>584200302Remind me, is the seasonal mount the 3k mount or that super duper cool (gay) 1% mount or whatever the fuck they want to call it?
>>584200350>anyone seeking to chat about itt should be viewed with suspicionI think we should just have one general.Classic is only its own general because classicfags are insufferable. Theres gonna be big overlap between forever and retail players and that overlap should be encourage, so people dont have to feel like they only play one game or the other but instead play both depending on what they feel like doing at the time.I want to nip tribalism in the bud and embrace the obvious intention from blizzard the Forever and Retail be symbiotic companion games, not rivals.the ONLY reason for the antagonism between classic and retail players is the iditioc tribalism from no-changes andies who have an axe to grind.
>>584200802we wouldn't have a retail general anymore, we barely have one now
>>584200749There's the 2500 mount, the 3000 mount, the 3600 mount (formerly 3400, requires around 17-18s), then there's the percentage end of season mount.
>>584200868babies first middle of the expansionhow qt
Guys how do I get my autistic retard friend to stop talking like a star wars alien? It's really not that funny(exhale out the nose level) and he won't stop. I have to play forever with him...
>>584201148Uuzhdralaka beeba?>Shnuurn beebo makalak.
>>584200913we've been pretty bad all expansion, there was an anon that used to take the thread data and post it here.
Started playing Legion on a private server. Why did they stop classic before they got to this kino xpac?
>>584200868If it wasn't for the furry clique and the resulting thread wars wowg would be dead. Never forget when 12.1 came out and then threads were slower than when nelfwifey came back.
>>584201250m8 ive been in this thread for 15 years.don't talk to me about stuff that happened 3 months ago as though it was a long time.This slowdown of the thread mid expansion in a boring patch is completely normal.
>>584199786Maybe if it was a Dracthyr thread. That would unite wowg and as you know, a wowg divided won't survive what's coming.
>>584201352LEMIX did it better.Thats why.Classic was disastrously unpopular to the point that it couldnt even justify the no resources it too to remake it. Meanwhile lemix which is basically an intern onboarding project blew its doors off.Same deal with MoPMopMix was crazy popular, MoP:Classic died instantly.No one anywhere wants to do WoD classic.Legion was a good expansion but theres no reason to revisit it. Everyone has seen anything there is to see.They should never have progressed classic past WotLK That was the "Classic" glory days of WoW.
>>584193328>>584193021The Eredae questline was in Dragonflight and MUST be set well after Legion, it's all but impossible for the Eredar to have joined the Alliance before Sylvanas wrecked the Helm. It just makes no sense.
>>584201569>Legion was a good expansion but theres no reason to revisit it. Everyone has seen anything there is to see.Disagree. I'm enjoying it. Blizzard can either give me what I want or I'll play it elsewhere.
>>584201701you and three other peopleIm sure blizzard will miss your $12.idiotwhy does every fucking newfag think that games need to be altered to cater to you personally.
I want another healer that's not my priestI'm thinking alliance druid of some kind
thinkin bout sex with elf wives
>>584201782There's around 900 online right now. I still pay blizzard 12 dollars. This isn't even immoral in my book because I'm paying them and I bought legion. >why does every fucking newfag think that games need to be altered to cater to you personally.Because they catered to classic niggers. Now they're going to cater to me.
>>584201695
>>584202012classic got made because nostalrious had 50,000 players.900 players on some russians p2w bootleg server is literally nothing.
>>584202895worst nelf
>>584202763Nostralius had to start somewhere. I'm going to keep pushing for this, and eventually I'll get what I want just like the vanilla nerds did.
>>584203019lmao no you wont, classic is done.Forever is repalcing it wholesale, with a developable version of the only classic release that actually did well, era.The whole point of forever is that its perma vanilla "ERA" but not bound by "no changes" redditwitch herd nonsense.
>do sethraliss>do giant snake boss>completely different than back in bfa>avatar is completely differentI don't like change
>>584203159shockingly M+ rebuild made the dungeon worse.which is crazy cus it had an M+ version in bfa
god i wish i were my dracthyr
>>584200881Fuck me.Are the latter two any good?
>>584203320POV: You are your dracthyr
>>584203136Unlikely. You really think blizzard is going to tard wrangle all of those people in one game? Not gonna happen. Retail will continue to get worse and eventually retail players will want classic versions of Legion and BFA.
>>584203328The 3600 mount is actually a token which allows you to pick one of the previous season's mounts as well as their recolors.The top tier one was a recolor of the mythic raid mount, so I would guess this season is going to be the same.
>>584203423>yfw they finally break from the "no changes" policy for Shadowlands and give an alternative "true" version so Metzen can fix the lore issues
>>584203631Metzen all but admitted he has no power to change the story.
>>584201569Another reason for remixes being as popular as they were was being able to get goodies on retail. As much as classicfags want to deny it, retail is still the main game mode.
>>584204453
>>584204620you can finally lose your virginity
>>584204620
>>584204953Trust nobody, not even yourself not trusting yourself
worgposters are the best posteryou’ll never make me hate our furry friends
go on *cough* without me..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT2oINOVwnsRETOILET SIS, NOT LIKE THIS ACK
low keys are the worst because you get 0 score 250 ilvl tanks applying and you have to click accept knowing they’ll manage to brick an unbrickable key
>>584202398big red elfwife flag
can someone explain to me how hunter is supposed to handle the xal orbs affix after they purged explosive trap and bursting shotintimidate doesn’t work
>>584193203>draenei are like the only race that currently feels like it has some kind of ongoing story still and isn't in total stasis and also don't feel like a legion of clones of whoever their racial leader is at the timeHmm i wonder how any of this will tie in with the newest quests from midnight season 1 where we got to discover the nethersent in the voidstorm zone, that one npc became left behind yet again, perhaps when the world soul explodes and shatters into a million pieces in season 3 and xalatath is dead or whatever, that one draenei will be like, sucked into a black hole of voidstorm and die, or maybe mirculously escape literal oblivion and join up with her homies somewhere, but by then we'll be in TLT so i guess draenei story is considered concluded by then, all the tribes of draenei are re-united at this point, normal drae, eredar, nethersent, and whatever other ones there are, they are all part of the alliance and familiar with eachother and themselves again.>>584187227btw where do you get the black version of this chest from? i only knew it came in red from bfa... i had to buy it on AH earlier this year for quite a bit of gold, around 20k i think... it was the only one on the AH at that time so i got it asap.>>584198650yeah there is a lore point for that, supposedly they are not in forever because they haven't arrived yet, same way we will never get skyborne elves in retail, because draenei's space ship crashed tthrough the sky isle and killed all the skyborne lololololol>>584188892it doesn't shit on it.a random nelf mage proved his worth to maieve and she decided to allow him to wear the protector face paint or body paint or whatever... it's not saying that men can be wardens or whatever I enjoyed the areas it took us to, the quest was well laid out in terms of zone and design, npcs you engage
>>584202664SASSY
https://files.catbox.moe/fg86p0.jpg
>>584187267They didn't fucking show ANYTHING
>>584206540pubes are so hot
>>584187227playable eredar look so lame
>>584205792>then there's me with 300ilvl I got from my warband stache and 3400 main>too bad I play non-DK tank so I get to sit while the leader faggot waits for his DK retard who will inevitably do the MDI pull, stack 20 deaths as others keep dying and running back while he refuses to die, finally abandoning the key
>>584206540What do you use?
>>584206452>Hmm i wonder how any of this will tie in with the newest quests from midnight season 1 where we got to discover the nethersent in the voidstorm zone, that one npc became left behind yet againLike I mentioned above, she is involved in the Naigtal and hangs around in Silvermoon if you actually do her quests.The Nethersent are literally plain old Draenei, only they went some different way and supposedly on their home world, they are allied with the Sayaad who are uninvolved with the Burning Legion, but that feels like some coomer throwaway mention from blizz.
>>584205437I'll see you in... forever.
>>584206858I find it hard to believe you get rejected from low keys as an i300 tank with 3400 score because you’re not playing a meta spec
>>584206452https://www.wowhead.com/item=157958/dunecrawler-chestplate
>>584206953actual garbagehttps://perchance.org/ai-character-generator
>>584206970They are demon-allied void Draenei instead of demon-hating Light Draenei, because this expansion is all about how the Light is intolerant and violent whole the void is good and healthy.
just use novelai v5 bros, its so good
>>584205702Soooo what's the implication? After his years of shilling, who does he think Retail is made for that aren't regular people?
Hakkar the Soulflayer was and still is the only 1000% evil villain in WoW
>>584207306the implication is that you shouldn’t base your opinions on what someone who exclusively parrots whatever gives him the most views at the current moment says
>>584205437me last weekI may never return
>>584207025With 0 score.3400 on my main, which also is a tank.I eventually get accepted, but it's funny how these niggers wait for at least a minute and only THEN after no other tank signs up, they benevolently invite me.
>>584207450Sargeris is still pure evil. Sylvanas and the Jailer are very close with very little to redeem them. There's also Fyrakk, the Void Lords (eg Dimensius), the Old Gods, Azeroth's spawn like Ulatek, just from recent expansions.
>>584207214There nothing void about them, they are only in voidstorm because they were captured like all the other creatures - so the Domanaar would make them fight each other.They have that kind of cringe euphoric fedoralord idea about rejecting the light because yaddy yadda but light has been downgraded to be just another cosmic force so who cares.If anything, they use the arcane to make their tech run, so the same "order" quarter of the comic force diagram, none of that fel or void shit.
>>584207250I run local comfyui with anima and gen literally whatever I want without any cringe filters.
>>584207712novelai has zero filters
>>584207553Ulatek literally did nothing wrong. She was killed for chilling in a boss room and taking care of her babies.
>>584207751her babies were being fucking assholes
>>584207730If you use it locally then go ahead.
>>584207751Is that why the entire troll story so far revolved around stopping it from coming into Zul'Aman?
>>584206540That's good
>>584207250Im playing on an actual potato from 2017 until I build my new pc this winter for Star Citizen
>>584207791Self defense. Completely reasonable response to troll aggression.
>>584208251why the fuck would you do that
>>584208325my good pc died right as hardware prices skyrocketed a couple years back
Any change that makes the lives of M+ players worse is a good change
but what ifhttps://files.catbox.moe/u6wr5f.jpg
>everyone busy gooning to that one pic it made the thread die
>>584210814btw we are all here >>583942105
>>584210814literally everyone wants playable satyrhttps://files.catbox.moe/s2gd7k.jpg
>>584211108They are technically elves, so...
>>584211020Actually it's >>584190140Even the furtroons post there as the attention-starved troons they are.
>>584211625It's funny how much cope they post here about ackshually the wowg threads being 30+ hours long is totally fine, retail being dead on a tuesday reset is totally fine, all blizzard attention being on forever is totally fine, all community attention being on forever is totally fine, ummm ackshually forever fucking sucks and retail will live on!Then they buy the forever bundle and start posting in the forever general and doing their same AI slop and avatarfagging.
>>584211625>check the thread>ctrl+f 'worg'>1 postNot interested
>>584211625/wowfg/ is like the most mainstream redditers and /pol/tards having a baby. It is fucking awful.
worg are okay, but i rather spoon with a dracthyr
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/warbound-bfa-legion-reputation-resetting/2344810tomorrow, the great shitshow for this week
>>584212720wanna bet that will not happen
>>584200302I stopped vote abandoning keys. What I do now is play all the way until the timer expires then I leave the moment it hits zero, regardless if we reach the chest or not.Fuck all these people and fuck you for depleting the timer in a free key. You can die like 15 times in these and still time them, shitters just can't DPS to save their lives.
>>584212285Cold scales and sterile, though...
>few people who still play migrated to Forever general>all the ai posters and tripfags stayedkek
>>584213450Feel like you got that backwards.
this forever-retail shit flinging is so forced lmaoliterally everyone with a sub is trying forever next month, it’s not that deep
>>584213760The point is that forever is now the main game and retail is more of a side project and that is what is upsetting people. Most will try it out but some hope that everyone else will drop it when they do but they got another thing coming.
kinda depressed lately..
>>584215292its seasonal depressiongo outside, clean, find things to do, not computer things
>>584215292I's gonna be alright, just hang in there!>>584216175This is the nice part of autumn. The actual depressive part is yet to come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kslJtHL89G4
>>584187125love wowg anons!!!
>>584217771how deep is your love?
>>584217670Why retail doesn't have this mood sir ?
>>584218030jaded
>>584218030You're supposed to just fly and teleport to M+ dungeons and then in the open world eavesdrop on characters talking about the story because the entire world is now a painted 2D backdrop and the stage is owned by the Windrunner family
>>584214765>delusional niggerbabble
Reminder your BfA and Legion reps may get wiped tomorrow because they never fixed that bug despite claiming they wouldn't do more legacy accountwide reps until they did.
Something is about to break badly tommorrow
>>584218030resentment. forever could do the same bad shit as retail and people would still praise the devs
I hope they fucking gut mages bros
I'm ngl bros I'm only playing because I bought sub for Forever Who got the best pvp elite set this season? Might as well before queues are even longer.
>>584218651yeah you
>>584218651my asshole after an hour with a draefuta from goldshire
>>584219337no pleas don't
>WoWforever collector edition
>>584219419why not
And a tips from reddit wow (I had totally forgotten about it): remember to buy the 7 milly gold mount tomorrow
>>584219574ez bad and hurts :(
7 MILLY
>>584219696pocket change
>>584219679pussy
>>584219696>from 7m players to 7m mountsoh retail...
>>584219474These aren't shipping for another 2 weeks I think
>>584187267>Dood Remember Quel'thalas???>Dood Remember Nooorthrend? Didn't you like WOTLK??The fundamental fact and failure of both MIDnight and Last Titan will be the fact the majority of people who play the game these days and make the game hold no actual nostalgia for WOTLK and TBC.At best, they're MoP/WoD babies, but the more likely scenario is these people started playing Legion onwards.
>>584219474>more junk rotting in your hoarder house
>>584222120>he wants another unexplored island expansionSilvermoon is unironically far and away the best city they have ever made
>>584222120They are Legion babbies
>>584222120Most people in Retail are either blueberries meaning they came during Wrath and either didn't raid or got carried through everything or they came after Cata.After Cata the game turned into pure E sports slop and cash shop slop, mount, mog, pet, cheevo garbage with all the RPG shit sucked out of it.Please name a good RPG that time gates your progression behind 7 days. They don't exist.
The cutoff is WoD because it's when Classic stopped trying to milk boomer nostalgia.
>>584222219>Wrong colour scheme>Stupid massive open area in the middle to accommodate dynamic flyingBoralus blows it out of the water
>>584222120>the more likely scenario is these people started playing Legion onwards.I'd say legion is the at best scenario now. The people who unironically enjoy retail as it is are people i feel all started in legion at the earliest but more likely started in SL or DF.
>>584218738They are done with balance
Just got my physical good goy edition of Forever
>>584222120All the more reason WoW 2 was the needed direction for this franchise to go. You can't really milk the nostalgia of Broken Isles, Zandalar/Kul'tiras, Sneedolands (that'll never happen) and the Dragon Isles unless you make a sequel and reintroduce those locations down the line again.
You people are so desperate.
Genuinely insane how vanillafags whined so much they got like 4 different flavors of the game of their dreams and they're still here whining about how the game evolved past their dogshit dinosaur relic instead of actually playing it.You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it shut the fuck up I guess.
>Implying retail and vanilla aren't both suffering from endless stagnancy
>>584223097the vanilla tards I know IRL are basically tourists. They buy gold and raid log, they don't do anything else in the game and they find every single thing in the game boring.Talking to a modern vanilla fag is like talking to a 3rd worlder or something.They aren't going to align with anything you value, especially farming gold and leveling.
Why you fags think that finding a treasure chest middle of nowhere is much better than fighting epic godlike creatures and loot their equpments
>>584223541The fuck are you even talking about
>>584223607>acts dumb
>>584223541Because there's a point when the stakes get too high and everything loses it's meaning. WoW hit that point with Legion and the setting has increasingly lost peoples interest more and more then time went on.The IP and the setting needs a shot of life into it again, Forever isn't the solution either. It needs an actual new direction instead of clinging to nostalgia that most people who play the game doesn't even have nostalgia for anymore.
>>584223391Basically all the "muh comfy leveling adventure" larp went out the window the second classic released and everyone just speedran to cap spamming dungeons like retail.
Migrate to the real thread >>583942105
The solution was never Classic+. It was to create a perpetual series of fresh launches by launching new servers that restart every 2 weeks. Fresh was always the future of WoW.
>>584224149>relaunching WoW every 2 weeks was the real answer all along
forever isn't going to work because the game everyone keeps saying to take inspiration from takes 5000 hours to reach endgame instead of 200, and half the people that hit that point are so completely addicted they will start a new account under the game mode that takes 10000 hours to reach endgame
>>584224121I'm NOT going there. There's foxes.
I don't presume to know whether or not forever will be a success.But if Blizzard saying they're going to do horizontal progression doesn't send a shiver down your spine you're delusional.
>it's been a month since Blizzcon and /wowg/ still cries about Forever
>>584225264what else is there to talk about lol
>>584225264>>584225313We'll get at least 24 hours taking the piss out of what ever they do with Liadrin tomorrow. Then it's waiting until the 20th for someone to spam all the new Old God art Hearthstone's dropping
Worgen
>>584224010Yeah as evidenced by my recent run of trying to play a warrior tank in TBC. When I get to Outlands basically everyone wants to pull 10 mobs and when i try to LoS pull, it fails every single time.Nice "classic community" you got there. It's literally Retail players kek.
>>584225695tummy in dire need of worship
>>584224010>>584225698>Forever beta already has a meta for level 30Classicfags are going to destroy this utterly and completely with their minmax obsession when the game is made for normal people like Bellular said
>>584226497I'm going over to hardcore I decided. HC is where you clamp down and just play the game. All the parse garbage retard shit doesn't fly in HC.
>>584226654HC alone is a niche among the niche, this shit is going to die and there's nothing you can do about it since WoW players refuse to change.
>>584226826okay you hate WoW, sorry.
Is it just me or do more and more Elves keep popping in to simulate a crowd in Silvermoon? Or was it always like that and I just don't bother taking notice during the day?I'd swear we're on the verge of Blizz taking more from Gmod and going for a Guess Who game mode next.
>>584226950That's just the fact, not hating.
>>584226654I wanted to play hc but they are delaying it for streamer content
will we be able to use bonus roll in new raid on hc to get mythic loot, same as it is in ula'tek raid?
>>584227325yes
it's over
Lemme play a mungy...
>>584227325uoooooooohh tummy
>>584227508>Wanting a Horde race to be playable.Sorry chuddy, we don't do that here.
>>584227351
>>584225698even worse it's the retail players with "something to prove" after decades of failing to achieve anything in the real game. I remain hopeful they can actually convert it to dadgamer central
So if I'm trying to buy the 7milly mount but don't have enough yet, should. I invest all my gold into wow tokens and sell them higher sometime soon? what's the angle here I got almost 3mil
>>584228303you literaly have untill end of expansion. just do weekly quests and gold world quests on characters man
>>584227508Can I interest you in another elf race instead?
>>584229049yes please
>>584229406Good, Frost Elves it is.
when is blizz adding sethrak femboys?
>>584229649kys coombrain
>>584230336The e-begging meta is to say you need money for to buy estrogen for your transition.
>>584200589cute
>>584230132coombrains wouldn't have made the game rot this much
>>584230524i thought it's another jew joke
finally, a peer reviewed study
>>584231175not watching your vagina ramblings.buy an ad
1. we're sanctioned demons2. we're sorry3. we wuz tricked!
When ever anons here tell me Horizontal progression doesn't work I laugh because retails system is progress + tuesday slot machine + wait 7 days repeat then reset.
>>584231801
It's hilarious how you people refuse listen to the common sense.
>>584231732You gotta understand. If a big flaming god comes out of the sky and offers you unlimited power. You'd be fools not to take it. We just didn't realize that unlimited power would have the draw back of making us evil. Those Orcs? Well they just did it for the love of the game. Hate them not us.
>>584231913If you play Diablo You can always progress. Retail WoW is the only game that lets you do all your progression content in like 8 hours then you can't do anything besides mounts mogs cheevos
>>584232156>NOOOO farming elite mobs with over inflated health for random drops/world quest is progression !! NOOOOOOO!!!!!
>>584232118I've been saying this for aeons
>>584232156and what does that have to do with horizontal progression
why is there multible wowg threads 2x multible wowfg threads 2x ????
>>584232543The FurFag won't stick to his isolated thread. No one likes him.
>>584232105*gulps* look at those p-puh-paws! *drools*
>>584229049Sure, the Untainted Elves
Deep-elves (Red elves that live in lava)
why is there no silvermoon erp? every room in every building looks like a bdsm sex dungeon
>>584232156PvP is infinite content
>>584234018ERP*
conquest gear and honor gear should just be scaled to the same pvp item levelliterally no point for conquest gear to be better than honor in pvp
Disgusting
>>584207450Hogger
SEXXXX
>>584235043they already tried your shit idea and it flopped.... BIGLY
It seems WoW is destined to flop no matter what Blizzard does.
>>584236605
sure 12.1.5 might be total shit, but 12.2 is where worlo enters a new era of greatness
Give me a reason to play Retail right now, it feels souless, every piece of content is cleared in a week or two, the universe feels lifeless and empty.The only interesting thing is class design which I rather enjoy, but what's the point if everybody is already 3k+ score.I'll most likely play Forever but I still miss and want to enjoy retail
>>584237306
>>584237553It's the only version of the game with troll paladins, which means it's the only one where the class is actually worth playing.
>>584237553>Give me a reason to play Retail right nowIf you need a reason, then you clearly don't want to play it. So go play something else until Forever, or next season when the thing you think is pointless to try and achieve now is reset.
>>584237763>t's the only version of the game with troll paladinsincorrect
>>584237306it's incredibly grim that the way they talk about TLT it's clear they already locked into it being everything that everyone despises about midnight and they're trying to condition you to just wait for 14.0 before TLT is even formally revealed
>>584237553so don't play itwho cares
>>584237553>every piece of content is cleared in a week or twoIf you care about this why are you playing forever?
>>584237306>sure 9.1 might be total shit, but 9.2 is where worlo enters a new era of greatness
big bimbo'dorei breasts
>>584237763I love Trolls but I don't think troll paladins is what they needed, I'm not really appealed by them, even if it pretty much allows them to be everything but DH.>>584237919>>584238157I think I just miss my prime playing WoW and it makes me long for it, but maybe I'll just sit midnight out>>584238251There is a difference between clearing a raid no one did before in a classic setting, and simply waltzing through Maze score in two weeks and doing nothing until the next season
>>584237553Do it for him
>>584238012That's what happens when you make 4-5 expansions at once. Ion already talked about how BFA and SL partially sucked ass because they were still semi-locked in with the Legion additions and had to ease out of it. These devs are incapable of just ripping a bandaid off
>>584238394>There is a difference between clearing a raid no one did before in a classic setting, and simply waltzing through Maze score in two weeks and doing nothing until the next seasonthe difference is you can actually spend weeks doing keys lol they are going to clean the new raids in an hour which is why they are timegating the hell out of forever
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/worldsoul/us/leaderboards/hall-of-fame/mythic-raid/the-venomous-abyssThis shit is finally over, the season is done, now uncap crests faggot ion
>>584238643I'm waiting for coiled altar nerfs
>>584238382built for a human husband who looks like me and has the same name as me and is me.
>>584238701on mythic?
>>584238394Trolls are literally only getting Paladin because Night Elf is. If the devs could go one update without getting on their knees to suck off Night Elf players we wouldn't have Troll Paladins.
>>584238787You can't give something to the horde without giving something to the alliance, they are fucking mentally ill trannies.
>>584238772obviouslyaltar isn't hard in heroic pugs unless you're playing with actual retardseven ulatek is super easy on heroic now and post-nerf is easier than altar on mythicso altar is the actual wall now
WorloISSAVEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phxy5Gat_Gs
>unlock both med and large houses>it completely destroys how much space you have left to make a garden etcwelp back to small house it is :/
>>584239381I'm afraid to change the size of my house because I don't know if its going to delete the decoration I set all around
*crickets chirping*
>>584238513
>>584239507blueprint before any change
>>584239507fairly certain it end up destroying whatever is in its path but i don't remember.but aren't you able to save exterior blueprint and just go back to it incase it does end up undoing?
Is there other content at endgame besides raiding in Vanilla?Genuinely asking because I didn't start playing WoW until Cataclysm and have completely ignored classic since it came out.But now literally like ten of my buddies are going to play Forever and are asking me to join them, and I don't know shit about Vanilla.
>>584239671>>584239703good idea>>584239771grind gm/hw and raid that's it
>>584239771You either raid for your BIS, or pvp. That's about it. And at the end of the day only thing to keep you in the raid grind is your chance at the current legendary until the raid lead decides it goes to his girlfriend (boy) anyway
>>584239381the whole housing thingy is so fucking incomplete it makes me seetheeven rotating your house/plot (including all the decor) isn't possible which is fucking silly considering the feature has been in the game for good 10 months nowthey should stop designing more decor items and fix the basic features first
>>584240181>still haven't added more core race houses but were happy to add in dogshit treehouse in bnet store, westfall (human coded) house with coupons and finally a upcoming kul'tiran tidesage specific exterior from spooky eventsuper epicwhere's my gnome house at? dwarven? undead? hellooooo
>>584240347>hellooooohi
>Room Placement Budget 29/134>134 That is insane amounts of room you can potentially add.
>>584240581yes you can make fucking huge houses
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/title/maze-runner-1340the perfect m+ title is coming tomorrow, bros.
>>584240763>>584240763>its a delve titleoh no no no shitposterbros?!
>>584240865It's a Delve title because Labyrinths require more effort than m+
>>584240865https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oMB0cH-EsI
>>584240934
>>584240763having to do the labyrinth 11 times to unlock ?? is so retarded
>>584240969Why the hell did Maye shave his head it looks horrible
>>584240969WoW players be like
And nothing to spend it on
>tfw want those new pally wings but do not want to deal with even one mythic raid boss this tier
>>584242386Your fresh alt's bonus roll last week of the season
>>584242614By then they're done with farming the mythic transmog set from delves
Are there not full patch notes out? Their site links to old ones with no dungeon changes and DDH shit that already got added
they should really take the one loot lockout/bonus roll system out this weekcom' on blizzuuuuurd!i got alts i want to playoh also since they won't do that how stupid would it be to bonus roll heroic and mythic on the new raid?feel like theres a high chance ill get dupes but i only have crests to upgrade one item and i already have a piece i wasn't able to upgrade last week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phxy5Gat_GsAfter playing the Forever beta for a few weeks now, I can finally recognize the issues I have with retail. >Story is too big>Player choice is entirely ignored>Getting gear is too complicated>Everything feels so put in its place and perfectly calculated to quest/reward structure
>>584245742>story is too big>story for the last 3 years has been darkness bad!!! but also... light not good!??!>wow has never had player choice outside of the rare instances of multiple talent builds being viable>getting gear is the easiest its ever been (outside of the faggot ulatek trinkets), you dont need to mythic raid for mythic raid gear and 99% of players wont even need full myth track to complete their season goals>everything feels so put in place>when we're getting a third style of invasions THIS EXPANSION
>>584245742The constant spinning camerawork is disgusting.
>>584245742>Story is too bigWe should have stayed as weirdo adventurers who get hired to do cool stuff, instead of being big important figures in society
>heh im le heckin wholesome chungus faggot!
>>584246536The sad thing is we're not even important anymore, we're just weird spectators in the background watching Windrunner family drama
>>584246078Can you even remember the feeling of not knowing if a quest will take you minutes, hours, or days?Do you even remember what it felt like to find a single item that changes the very nature in which you play your class/spec?I miss these things in retail. I can't feel any excitement knowing that my gear progression is the exact same one that anyone playing my class can obtain.
>>584246715>Can you even remember the feeling of not knowing if a quest will take you minutes, hours, or days?99% of quests will not take you more than an hour even in vanilla>Do you even remember what it felt like to find a single item that changes the very nature in which you play your class/spec?yeah puzzlebox and maybe the galakras trinket and its the fucking worst.>I miss these things in retail. I can't feel any excitement knowing that my gear progression is the exact same one that anyone playing my class can obtain.i fucking guess? tier sets have always existed so everyone wants to be at the same endpoint
>Developers on the [Epic Games-Disney partnership], a shooter featuring characters from the Marvel and Star Wars franchises, were instructed to implement an “AI first” production model using tools such as Anthropic’s Claude. Humans will then manage and guide that work. “No more hand-written code,” one of the game’s directors told staff in an internal message reviewed by Bloomberg. The director added that all art for the game would be “generated with full AI workflows.”>Even before this announcement, the maker of the popular Fortnite game had been pushing hard for the use of AI across all of its divisions. But this is the first time a major video-game company has attempted to build a title primarily with AI.When will Blizzard catch up with the competition?
>>584246715>redditard is also an actual retardshocking
How do we make Worgen not cringe anymore
new metrohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVDjfgqLthY
>>584247710can't wait for vibecoded UE6 that sets anything below a 5090 on fire trying to run a game that looks worse than a PS2 launch game
How fast can a warrior tank and a dps warlock duo get from 70-90 before patch tomorrow? Is a single evening and night tonight reasonable if we spam timewalking dungeons? Let's say 6pm to 1130pm tonight in California timezone as an example.
>>584248143do it now there is to tw tomorrow
>>584248143warlocks have a non dps role?
>>584247846make them more savage
>>584247846remove female wo**enfixed
>>584247846
>>584248731Uniconoclastically thisRemove female worgen and return the vanilla worgen model
>>584247847who?
>>584248357 Ah, my fault, I was being overly specific. They do not of course.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/wow-forever-classes-wont-be-modernized-techradar-interview-with-blizzard-383378There are no plans to add Retail races to WoW: Forever.GOAT SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>584249627Well yes, they need to sell Flameborne elves, Waterborne elves, Earthborne elves, and Rainbow elves on the store
>>584249627>Classes should be simpler but have engaging depth.jej
>>584248731>remove female women
>>584246987>>584247729Blind guides leading the blind. You have forgotten what made WoW an amazing game in the first place. Placate yourselves with your "weekly vault". I will be getting interesting gear based on the merits of MY effort. Not some fucking "crests" and not through RMT. Forever is the superior game, and mark my words, you will play it.
>>584249804
I have put 600€+ euros into blizzard games this year
>>584250638is there a reason why you're spamming this pic?
>>584248953WOLFMILK BUILT ROME
>>584249627and yet they already ruined it with the skylves
>>584250324Most women in the world are male women now, it's not like the old days
>>584249627>trusting anything blizz sayszoom zooms dont know about the stance blizz had regarding adding DHsalso using wowheadlollmao even
>>584250691I really like this pic
>>584251050holy tranny cope
>>584249627there were also no plans to add subscription token to classic yet here we are
>>584249627helf confirmed
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>584245742>>Everything feels so put in its place and perfectly calculated to quest/reward structureMy main issue
>Why don't we just simply eat Xalatath?
>>584248953This one is funny
finally they confirmed my orwyna/xalathat theory
>>584249627>no original goblin modelWell I don't have to follow this useless tranny mode anymore.
So Kith'ix isn't even worth doing on mythic because he doesn't have items that go beyond 6/6, right? We get crest uncap soon and you can roll myth items on heroic, right. What a joke of a system. They killed this patch before it came out.
>>584252672Ominous signs of fel corruption
>>584251174I think I like it too
>>584254416file air straight shelter imminent correct jar shrill cause modern
>reddit is shitting on the new patch>twitter are shitting on the new patch>youtube is shitting on the new patch>the "retail is dead, we're playing x game now" comments are backit's over, isn't it?
End of service after 13.2.7
The Last Cash...
Can I get this for my character?
>>584255242It's just a trading post set and a bow from a cata dungeon
>>584255429nothing from the tradepost looks like this
>>584255242No you cannot get tyrande
>>584255609What if I offer 1 gold?
>>584255692she's a self respecting woman her rates are high
>>584251291yep that's a zoom zoom response
>even reddit is tired of the invasions slop
Are they pooling resources for TLT or is this genuinely over? I don't really feel like playing 12.2 let alone trusting them with the next expansion when the highlight they decided to show was reused azerite assets from BFA and reused cave assets from TWW. Not to mention the cheap titan shit inside the raid that's probably just Legion assets from Antorus.
>>584256363Trust the plan. The A team is working on The Last Toilet.
>>584256363Cashout expansion is coming and after that's it's over.
>>584255936Don't worry, we still have M+ numbe->lowest tracking season since DF season 2Umm well we still have raid num->lowest tracking raid completion since SepulcherMIDNIGHT IS A SUCCESS BECAUSE... IT JUST IS OKAY!?!?!? NO WE CAN'T SHOW SUB NUMBERS BLIZZARD I NEED MORE WINDRUNNER SLOP NOW
>game is clearly in maintenance mode>all resources have been allocated to WoW: Forever>release a 7 million gold mount anyway to squeeze the pigs one last time
You did farm the 7 gorillion gold for the new mount, right?
>>584256363It's a coin toss. 50% chance they invested development time and resources into forever and 50% chance they're planning something big with TLT
Does the trading post trick where you buy a TCG mount, refund it and wait two hours to learn it anyways still work?
>>584257148>average human male ret paladin
>retail is somehow the moneymaker that squeezes money out of your wallet like a slut squeezes cum out of you while being the anchor weighing down the franchise and being so bad and unpopular that shutting it down would be more profitable
>>584257205na I gave up before 2 mil
>>584255901her rates are exactly 1 human dick, every"thing" else need not apply
>so many high end raiding guilds disbandingwtf is going on?
>>584257481I think Holly is just very stupid and is convinced that retail players will all seamlessly go to play Forever the second they get bored of retail and then come back when a new patch is out and vice versa for Forever players and retail. In reality the playerbases don't have much overlap and now they are confirmed to be in direct competition with each other for development resources so there is a good chance that her gambit ends up a lose-lose where either Forever is a failure and flops, or retail flops and then all those massive paypig money streams that aren't in Forever right now dry up so they make less money than they would overall. Then they put them into Forever and piss off that playerbase and WoW finally dies
>>584257791How would you even track that?
>>584257205i don't want it
>>584257791Making everything in the raid not matter except the last two overtuned unfun bosses isn't very motivating to play
>>584257937forever can bring the old players back AND new players. new players wont ever touch retail
>>5842581962 semi-relevant guilds disbanded so now you can pretend all the guilds are dying
>sudden flood of angry doomposting and relentless faggotryyup, it all checks out
has anyone ever done a normal tier dungeon in retail in the past decade?at this point, why not convert regular mythic into normal tier, m+6 into heroic, m+10 into mythic, and m+12 becomes m+2
>>584257237>>584257237>>584257237>>584257237>>584257237
>>584257937Exactly. Blizzard might not intend for them to be in competition, but the community ultimately has the final say. From what I'm seeing, Forever is just making more and more people drop retail.
>>584258684think its fixed
>>584258662who gives a shit? nothing is going to change
>>584257791Everyone moving to Forever before retail get shut down.
>>584258754it will change because then all of the faggotry gets put back into its own corner and you don't have to deal with them if all you want are hero or myth crests
>>584257205why would you drop 7 milly on this dead piece of shit? buy tokens and convert them to bnet balance or game time
>>584258662they already did that in twwbut normal dungeons are just for leveling
>>584258859why would I ever go back to wow if retail fails me?I'll go into ffxiv or gw before touching foreverit's the same company, they're gonna do the same shit, how retarded can you be?
>>584258754The 7 wine aunts still doing normals would cry really hard on the forums and nothing would change.
>>584259135Trust me bro this time they are listening
>>584259323Not that Anon but skelves are already a sign of them not listening and the game isn't out yet.
>>584259504It's just a beta bro
What is happening to all the mounts and mogs Ive collected over 20 years in retail? Are they transferring them to Forever?
the forever trannies are seething after the last article huh
>>584260405>can't transfer shit from classic to retailDo you really think they can magically transfer shit from retail to forever?
in case its not obvious, the furry porn spammer is ban evading.
I'm still bitter about this
https://youtu.be/-socgPKgxy8Retail is a lobby game. This shouldn't be happening. Stand up and play Forever so Blizzard makes retail better.
>>584262132you're a fat fuck kultiran not a magic tree
>>584262132yea AND the skinny kul tirans.Id have played the shit out of a Skeleman druid with skinwalker, wendigo and wickerman forms.
>>584262183okay but I don't want to be a fat fuck I want to be a wickerman, why didn't they at least make it a glyph
Jaina should have become fat
>>584262479>but I don't want to be a fat fuckThen you shouldn't be playing kultiran nor moonkin....
>>584262493you should become an heroobesity is not sexy.your brain is misfiring, confusing fat for pregnant, which is sexy.
>>584262561hey man zandalari troll got a skinny arakkoa moonkin form and at that years blizzcon before the forms were released they said that kul'tiran's forms would be like the drust enemies, this shit is bullshit
Jaina should have become my wife and the mother of my children.
>>584255692That depends if you're green or not
>>584262743OK you're right I forgot that was a thing, I understand why you can't use the wickerman form but you're still right
>>584262659I am ascending to a level of divinity you cannot begin to understand. Make peace with whatever deity you worship, be it inward or outward, and pray for mercy, for it is a feeling I will no longer be able to comprehend once the ascension has commenced
>>584262852>hordecuckdon't you have a dildo to suck?
what mogsmountscheevos chase rewards are actually worth grinding out, in a sense that other people will think it's cool you have it? The Insane?
jaina's magick farts
>>584263162the insane is fucking welfare now that they changed dmf and removed shendralar
>>584262493for the Alliance! for Azeroth!
>>584260405BUY THE NEXT EXPANSION https://files.catbox.moe/6samhg.mp3
>>584263193GUHHHso that's her secret to attracting the green men, perfumes them with a euphoric stink
If I didnt want to be a blood dk what are my tanking options?
>>584263162Nothing. This ain't the mid 00's anymore where other players care about what you have. WoW is a purely self-centered game.
anything........... anything for a drop of draeslop...................
>>584263670You'd still have guardian druid, prot paladin, brewmaster monk, vengeance demon hunter, and prot warrior.Hope this helps!
>no goats in FogeverGRIM
>>584263702oh... if none of the rewards matter to anyone, what should I do, then...
>>584263890Satyr for the horde centaur for the alliance
>>584263995Do it for your own enjoyment and satisfaction?
>>584263995obviously the rewards should matter to you, that's the most important
It beHOOVES you to uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pornography
>>584263670vdh and guard are the next best
>>584264262I wish I could make a Draenei Warlock that looks like this
Give it to me straight.1. How bad is warrior tank? How high APM is it?2. How bad is DH tank? How high APM is it?
>>584263890I feel sad for them
>>584264934useless because arms is in every key and brings BS for itself, apm is extremely high because your rotational defensives are both off GCD. VDH is lower because you need to look for spirit bomb->cleave combo to abuse the first of many game breaking hidden bugs in the spec but at least you can macro spikes and have 8 years of duration without ever thinking about them
What're the odds I stayed subbed til 12.1.5 and the saddles are going to be the EXACT same recolors with nothing new at all?
it's kinda exciting seeing the game in this state. this time either retail dies completely or it actually becomes good again
>>584265375>abuse the first of many game breaking hidden bugs in the specFuck my life, how bad is it?
>>584264934Prot Warrior is consistently fine but rarely outstanding. It's currently redundant because Arms is meta and brings the same buffs. Better to bring any other tank, even worse ones, if only for the utility. Prot Warrior might be the highest APM tank because of all of its procs, because Shield Block and Ignore Pain are off-GCD, because it values Haste so much, and because it's a GCD-capped spec.
>>584265764thanks for rephrasing my post you fucking retard, be sure you explain the critical pandemic timer that you know nothing about because you're a parrot
>>584265723What can retail even do? The playerbase only wants to do m+. Any other content is slop to them, even if it was good.
>>584263890>Fogeverkek
>>584266101raiders are quitting in droves. ion is going to take this personally
>>584266518The solution is clear: force everyone into raiding even more. Delves need to be shut down and M+ needs to only drop hero gear
>>584265990Shield Block doesn't pandemic, if that's what you're talking about. It's simply additive.
>>584266601>t. Ion "jew laywer" Hazzikostas
>>584266101give everyone weakauras back
>>584263712Anything.. you say?https://files.catbox.moe/zsn514.jpg
wife.
revv up the porn spam, we cant have another 30 hours thread
the labyrinth shit is far more complex than expected
>>584267742nah Im not a furry,I only ever post a couple things at a time.
why would anyone stick around here when it's clear forever is becoming the main version of the game and retail will receive less and less dev attention
>>584262180>fat belular
>>584268078belular fatmogs this faggot
>>584267742I'll try some draeslop later. My model is mostly anime-trained, though.
>>584268050let us die in peace
>>584257205I spent 5 million on the first one. That's enough. Was worth it though.
>>584268425I want one of the flex mounts but they all look like shit
>>584268050>NO>NO>Its REEEEEEETAIL getting EOSD>NOT CLASSIC>NO CHANGES IS PERFECTION>REEEEEEEEETAIL IS DOOOOOOOOOMED
>>584257205Yak is eternalYak is LoveYak is LifeYak is all you need.
>>584268980The new store yak looks better but you can't mog
shrek gif
>>584266601>M+ needs to not drop gearI am the great Ion the terrible. I decree this.Delves will ONLY give champ gear and mogsmounts NO cheevos.
i just checked loot on new boss. Beside ring, its all useless
>>584268980I personally use the wrath mammoth because I got into the game seriously (raiding) in wrath and I'm nostalgic for it.
Only two things can save Retail now.But it will take guts to see them through.1. TLT MUST be Fresh.2. TLT MUST be Fashy.
>12 weeks leftGrim.
>>584269861forever release is going to make lemix's gutting of 11.2 look like a mercy killing
Bellular is trying to tell us something.I think we should listen!!
>>584269827Trvth NvkeGet Josh, Dutch and the V+ team on the phone.
It's time to uninstall retailEnd of service after the last cash out
I kinda hate how the blatantly paypigs-only mounts are also the only AH-only mounts, real rich get richer class.Man, I just wanna buy shit quick, why do you have to restrict AH access this hard.
>>584271236just make 20+ level 90 alts and farm gold
>>584271236Time to pay up
>>584271313I don't wanna do that shit either, I don't want to farm gold like a poorfag venezuelan that HAS to do it to eat, I just don't want to go back and forth between the profession table and the auction house every 30 seconds, or even worse going all the way to the raid or dungeon entrance and realizing you have no oil or flasks
>>584269947BELLULAR NO
>>584269947>>584271794ITS HAPPENINGTHEY ARE GIVING UP WITH RETAILBELLULAR WITH INSIDE INFOPREPARE TO SELL YOUR ACCOUNTS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
>>584269827>>584270140wtf does that even means
>>584269827>TLT MUST BE [Buzzword]
>>584262180I don't necessarily think a "lobby" game describes it very well, if it did i wouldn't need to time 20s to get into 21s. Is your progress wiped after a six month tier? Yes, but comparing it to league or valorant is a reach at best.The social element of the game has repeatedly been ripped out, shit on, and stomped on the curb. The endless difficulty wank creates raids that people with lives can't just jump into, all so we can have a spectacle at the beginning of every tier that Ion and the encounter design team can pat themselves on the back for, not to mention the free advertising. Joining a relevant guild(read mythic) is quite literally the same experience as job hunting, and the player base that participates in the mythic raiding rat race treats it as such where joining a guild isn't about trying to socialize or make connections, its about farming logs so that you can branch swing world ranks. It's no surprise that people aren't interested in spending 8-16 hours a week progging the raid.The gearing system isn't necessarily bad but the crest system is a deliberate way for blizzard to timegate your progression, and milk your sub. Gear feels less meaningful when theres 4 different versions of it and its not satisfying to get a drop below the maximum track because its still an item you need to check off your list, even when you do get a maximum track piece of loot you may or may not be able to upgrade it to the final upgrade level. It's a shameless engagement gimmick and it should be removed and replaced with how gear was awarded before its implementation.
>>584269861this is crazy high considering how useless it is this season
>>584263712
>>584272796The most unrealistic part of WoW is the fact that there are Human men that don't have Draenei wives.
>>584273263race mixing is bad anon...
>>584273351no it's not
>>584273263This but draenei women should have orc husbands
I need a dracthyr wife(male)
>>584274527yes it is
>>584271794fuck bellularfat cunt
https://www.wowhead.com/news/massive-mythic-coiled-altar-nerfs-with-weekly-reset-383389
>>584272392You've listed the issues with retail masterfully. Now, how do we and Blizzard fix it?
>20 Hours ago>New patch outHow embrassing
>>584275672>embrassinggood morning sar
>>584275728are you in the thread 24/7 calling people brown?
The patch isn't out yet retarded doombrown.
How many millions of dollars and man power do you think Blizzard wasted on housing?
have they said when the new "transmog anything" changes are supposed to drop?also do we know if thats going to lift the class specific restriction on class sets or if that will still be in place?
>>58427632512.2.5everything is fair game except tiers but offpieces are allowed
>>584276412> except tiersdamn
How does Blizzard fix retail?
>>584276751https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1x47j1z/1215_trailer_rise_of_kithix/even reddit has turned on them
>>584276751>kith'ixHehNow kith
>>584276531make sense I guess
>>584276873>Im tired of that content.. but it probably wont stop because its super low effort to make. Im just skipping it now.>This game is just the exact same slop churned out over and over. No one has enjoyed shit like invasions in 10 years>aint nobody gives a fuck about invasions blizzard>They just threw the most generic lines I see. Darkness bad. Do not let them advance. Let none through. Fight for “insert your city/faction name” here>The game looks so boring now, invasion after invasion the only content they do.>This patch looks like more low effort garbage. What saddens me the most is that they have no reason to fix retail now that forever exists, so this is likely going to be the norm going forward
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-dungeon-tuning-with-weekly-reset-altar-of-fangs-nerfed-383388
>>584277690>This patch looks like more low effort garbage. What saddens me the most is that they have no reason to fix retail now that forever existsWhy would they when all the retail playerbase wants to do is m+? They could literally make retail into a lobby game with no overworld, and those players would still pay.
>>584277964lol!1% hopefuls prepare for res 23s at least!
>>584278393do the needful sar
>Chris Metzen has been behind the story of Forsaken Kingdom from Warcraft III and is one of the people in charge of the Lore for WoW Forever.>In the words of Holly Longdale, Metzen is rescuing some stories and lore that he had in the drawer and that he thought about one day for Vanilla and Azeroth.We are fucking abandoned
>>584278480>Chris Metzen has been behind the story of Forsaken Kingdom from Warcraft IIIAh so that's why it was kinoIs Forever the only way they can get around the council of granny writers that work for Retail? I assume with union issues they can't fire them
>>584278480I guess that explain all the faggotry and shitty changes>ore that he had in the drawer and that he thought about one day for Vanilla and Azeroth.Ah yes the skyborne fucking lmao
>>584277690>>This patch looks like more low effort garbage. What saddens me the most is that they have no reason to fix retail now that forever exists, so this is likely going to be the norm going forwardEven fucking Reddit is breaking free from their conditioning. All thanks to Forever no doubt.
>>584278664Anon.. the granny writers are moving to Forever.
>>584278664you're a fucking retard lmao a full asian team made forsaken kingdom lol metzen is just trying to steal their glory>>584278746>movingliterally the same team for both games fag
>>584278746>getting the grannies to write basic quests since they can't fire themBased, I wonder if Retail's story will get better now
oh wow forgot about the wc3 dlc, maybe it's not all over after all
>>584278985It's pretty much over for worlo and a shitty wc3 campaign every year is not going to change that.
>>584278837One of the guys who worked on it said Metzen did most of it. This isn't super surprising as WC3 was also the last game Metzen was directly involved in script writing outside of just cinematics
>>584279078>WC3 was also the last game Metzen was directly involved in script writing outside of just cinematicsHe wasn't directly working for vanilla/tbc/wotlk/cata/mop/wod?
>>584279227He wasn't writing quest text like he was writing mission scripts in WC3. Even back then, quest designers were the ones doing the vast majority of in-game writing, Metzen would just review their work, do lore talks and presentations to get them all up to speed especially with the plot developments in WC3 and TFT close to WoW release, etc. Infamously this is where you had stuff like the designers pushing back against him differentiating between Scourge and Forsaken as they just wanted to make evil playable undead.
>>584279425>as they just wanted to make evil playable undead.Kino.
>>584279425I forgot to add too that his involvement definitely only decreased as time went on and he was delegating duties to Afrasiabi, Kosak, etc. in the big hour long interview he did in 2017 after he first retired, all he talked about was working on Overwatch and the Warcraft movie, he never once talks about WoW
>>584279651yeah kosak was in charge of mopm
>>584279078He does this shit and then fucks off and promotes his gay ass dnd shit afterwards while still working for blizzard
>Skyborne will be more popular than blood elves
>>584267567>still no playable vrykul
>>584280409they're the only non-ugly choice on the Forvo Horde so yes
>>584280409they're that exact mix of elf enough to capture the elf audience, but blue enough to capture the avatar navi audienceits the perfect storm
wow those dungeon nerfs are wild lmao, 1% gonna be 4200-4300 unironically
>>584280409The future of women is blue
>>584280409The undead paladins will mog the whole race.>>584280584There is no one left to push that hard.
outlaw rogue noob. which is more important: dispatch to get slice and dice up or between the eyes to maximize cooldown and buff uptime?
>>584280861Use the free combo points from ar to get dnd
>>584279425>Infamously this is where you had stuff like the designers pushing back against him differentiating between Scourge and Forsaken as they just wanted to make evil playable undead.Is this why the Forsaken are comically evil in the vanilla starting zonesLiterally cooking up the Plague again and performing war crimes
>>584281163yesthe player character models have the filenames of scourgemale and scourgefemale to this day
>>584281163>>584281245They had so little time they couldnt fix that stuff back then
>>584280584yepgoing back to 27 push keys just like dragonflightkey squish was clearly thrown out the fucking window lol
>>584281130ar is adrenaline rush right? but whats dnd?
>>584282737death and decay
>>584282737Yes ar is adrenaline but I meant snd as slice and dice not dnd
>>584282827so you dont use the combo points from AR to get an instant killing spree?
>>584282970Not when youre opening you have to lock snd because you have to cast super charged ks then bte and you can get a bunch of resets
Can you get the labyrinth welfare mythic if you do 3 wings next week, or is it timegated to 3 weeks
>>584283285You get 1 shard every week
>>584283480lmao these fucking 1month subscription timegates are too much man
>>584284037Thats irrelevant delvers don't need mythic gear
is the labyrinth much harder than the max level delve or is it just a slog? I'm so bored running these piss easy delves
>>584284994It's the same except you have the whole week to finish it
>>584284994some background slop I had on last night said the rec ilvl is 309 or something so should be a complete joke
is the problem that people wanna play monsters without wanting to play the evil role?I always thought Horde are the bad guys, you are literally playing a fucking troll and orc, it is meant to be fun to be scum
>>584285497Well youre wrong
GAME OVERUSER WINS
>>584284994doesnt matterits only gonna give you 2 maybe 3 myth items before next season
>>584280409this race was tailor made for the agp horde playerbase you can tell
Been playing BC Anni and I had forgotten how often things will just missHamstring and Rend just not having any effect is brutalCurse of Agony and Corruption getting Resisted isn't great either
>>584285497the low IQ answer is that the horde arent any worse than the alliance and they're just misunderstoodthe truth is that the horde are in fact monsters and are the bad guys. except maybe the tauren and trolls, then thats debatable. trolls have a legitimate territorial claim to defend their homelands, while tauren are mostly peaceful nomadic tribespeople who just want to be left alone, apart from a few small breakaway tribes that aggro for no reason. but orcs? orcs are monsters. they, led by some truly heinous warlords, invaded azeroth from another planet and raped and pillaged their way across the entire continent until they were eventually driven out. their entire culture is built on wars of conquest and trophies of skulls. their greeting is literally blood and thunder. then the forsaken put them to shame with the warcrimes factory in undercity, deliberate hatred and contempt for anything living, brutal invasions of their neighboring kingdoms and defiling of entire landscapes for the sake of undead spite of the land of the living. and their faction leader not only hates every living thing but also has a great deal of contempt for even her own factions people. so while trolls and tauren are somewhat nuetral or ambiguous, the orcs and undead are 100% evil to the core.
>>584285497problem is horde players aren't content with just being the evil factionthey also need the spotlight to ALWAYS be on them and ALWAYS be about how they're actually saving the world despite everyone else hating themi mean i can respect a good antihero story but this ain't the same. it's not like illidan or arthas in wc3 doing what they have to, this is just low-impulse control monkeys zerging into what would otherwise be a traditional european fantasy world and shitting it up with their presenceand the fact they consistently insist that this should be the 'new normal' sickens me. they are rats. a fucking plague of rats that have devoured everything that was once good about the story.
Holy shit the alliance trannies are malding
>>584286459to add to this, we're finally getting Alliance expacs and they're rushing through them in half the time.
>>584286579Go tank some more wowhead downvotes with your neck, freak.
>>584286459
>>584286583The writers HATE when the story isn't focused on the horde. Horde expansion = devs paid by the hourAlliance expansion = devs paid by the job
>>584286148I feel like characterizing Tauren as nomadic hippies downplays that they also love fighting and have a strong warrior honor culture like the orcs and trolls
>>584286825*scratches arse*
>>584286825They're abos who just cry for handouts because they got out tech-tree'd by their betters.We made worse, first. Bitch.
>>584286617>panda player %, a race that had their own dedicated expansion, is less than every asset reuse allied race ever except earthen
>>584286923>Kezan times
>>584286747The writers are doing nothing but alliance trannery and it fucking sucks meanwhile metzen is writing undeadkino... Really makes me think...
>>584287017>male model sucks>most are probably alliance because Horde Panda (even though it's correct) feels like a weird choice in the moment>no one wants to be a fatty>no one wants to be a furry
>undead kino
>>584286825they have a warrior culture but not one that emphasizes active invasion and territorial conquest. there's a big difference. for the most part tauren just want to smoke the peace pipe and wrestle, and defend themselves from the centaur and boarfolk. a lot of their warrior culture is built around defending themselves or the hunt for wild game. the orcs are constantly trying to pacman every inch of land they can, especially the pre-thrall orcs. conquering new territory and gathering slaves for demonic rituals has long been a part of the orc way of life. thrall tempered it down somewhat but then he fucked off and surrendered the horde to garrosh and sylvanas who both shook hands and decided villainy was back on the menu
>>584287136>indirect seethe trannyAnother alliancecuck unable to cope with his victim complex. Enjoy alleria and arathor tranny
>>584287270The fact he immediately posted about cucking below you makes this 10x funnier.
>>584287017i think the panda population is a lot higher on alliance. the people who play pandas usually want that civilized teahouse vibe, not unga bunga mud huts. plus the alliance got aysa cloudsinger over ji firepaw, pretty obvious choice there
>>584287331hordefags literally only have one meme
>>584287359furfag cope lmao they look like shit
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ygl4adabRxw?feature=shareOH NO NO NO NO
>it's another horde vs alliance thread>call each other trannies>mention Forever and get some cope from the resident schizo here>you're brown>you're indian>never mind the fact we've got another 24 hour thread cooking the night before a patch>no one is even mad at the game anymore, they just don't care>buy the owl mount>buy the agp coded store transmog
>>584287570Why the fuck am I suppose to be mad?
Are Earthen still gimped/nerfed by being unable to eat stat food, even after the buffs to their Well Fed racial?
>>584287681because the game is currently shit back during WoD or BFA or Shadowlands there would be players here angry about the state of the game. Now just indifference.
>>584287570But /pol/'dan says this dark gift may be what we need to save our threads from stagnation.
>>584287803>Now just indifference.Is that why you niggers are bitching non-stop and linking reddit posts, youtube comments, literal who youtubers and wowhead comments because you're "indiferent"?
>>584287964ah the resident schizo is here to tell me there can't be any negativity in the dojo.
>>584287803why would I be angry on 4chan?even if I mald my entire life out in here, that'll affect a grand total of 0% of the game itself
>>584287803Games not shit bud. Its the most ok the games been in a long time. Might be time for a new hobby
>Servers come up while I'm at workBrehs I'm gonna end up as fucking 200,001st famed slayer...
>>584288114Nice deflection faggot, very indiferent.
>>584288201That wasn't me.
>>584288201>>584288247Same person.
>>584288247Then shut the fuck up faggot.
>>584288339Thread IDs would solve this.
>>584288162
>>584288406We are never getting ids because that would kill 4chan
>everybody agrees that retail should be shut down>even blizzard stopped giving attention to itI'm glad we grew up and say no to failed product
>>584288162This. You gotta appreciate the little things.Silvermoon for example is by far the most gorgeous looking neutral city they've ever made.
>>584287216Did orc warrior culture before the demon blood emphasize invasion and conquest? They seemed to get along well enough with the draenei
remember when hordekeks thought alliance would be "kill on sight" in silvermoon??LMAO
>>584288162you know people can not like Midnight but still enjoy the game for the most part right?I liked TWW but have really hated almost all of the Midnight changes. S2 has been really bad. I didn't particularly care for DF either until the last patch.
Been gone for a long time, Silvermoon became neutral territory?
>>584269947Yeah man I'm sure THIS time Blizzard will get things right and won't fuck up literally everything like they have been doing for the past decade
>>584288591I'm a midnight defender but Silvermoon sucks donkey dick. I absolutely hate it.
>>584288114>>you're browni don't say this, mostly because if you're working off the framework that you're a child of Europa therefore you're also superior because of it you should be able to refute brown posts with easeit is a lazy cop out strawman and i do not care for it whatsoever, nor do i have so low of an opinion of my fellow man that i think what he may have to say isn't relevant because he may or may not be brown, it is irrelevant.>>you're indianthis is legitimate when people come in here flinging shit and accidentally post a screencap in their mother tongue. >>584198635Indians have no interest in this game and so the only reason you would do so is for a fiverr check.nice try ranjeshkindly fuck off
>>584288880Yeah and horde went from being smug little shits over a mistranslation from the announcement to staging one of the biggest crashouts in WoW history when the Devs clarified that it was actually the Horde who would only have a tiny little concentration camp in a forgotten corner of the city to call 'theirs'.
>>584289021o-oh
>>584288176theres no famed slayer for kithixits fabled or whatever for the delve clown boyalso servers aren't scheduled to come up until 6 est
>>584289021>one random post is indian therefore anyone that criticizes retail is indian
>>584289042holy shitKEK
>>584289421badass
>>584289042Oh like how Dalaran was in Wrath, communal neutral zone and little enclaves for the factions?I liked that style
>>584289042>one of the biggest crashouts in WoW historyI know you're shitposting but fuck it's crazy how hard the alliance melted when that "mistranslation" happened.
>>584289467u know that's not the argumentstop pretending disingenuous little jeetsuck my dick
>>584289234yabut furthermore why are you here if you're not playing the game and all you ahve to add to the conversation is "retail is going to get EoSd hue hue"you deserve to be treated like a fiverr jeeti talk shit about the game literally all the time but an actual player can tell the nuance between someone who is subbed and engaging with the systems vs a bad actor thats just coming here to fling shit/shoo pest
>posts always the exact same time apart
>>584289667I really wish he'd just go back into the maze instead of... well, whatever this is.
>>584289613I play every day anon, I don't know how you think you can "tell" but that sounds fuckin schizo.
>>584289553Argument?
>>584289718The forever shitposting never sticks so now he is spamming random shit
>>584290102I want a Night Elf wife
fat draenei buttsfat draenei titsfat draenei futacocks
futa = trannypenises can't be feminine it is a male organjust btw
>>584290447best I can do is a one night stand and some exotic stds.
>>584231801Those anons somehow have never given GW2 a try.
>>584290837I love elf women so that doesn't sound so bad. I still wish I had a nelfwife though.
>>584291489No one gives a shit about faggot wars 2, the blizzard devs are retarded and we already know there is no real horizontal progression
>>584238621The Hairless Hibernian found that Blizzard were doing content about 2 years in advance. They have already done all of TLT and that's why they're free to work on Forever.
>hold the name Zul, >do nothing>dieNow that was just weird.
>>584293095He did stuff in the background since cata
>that guy who spends all day randomly killing flagged people in Stormwind
>12.1.5 Has there ever been a patch more dead BEFORE arrival.
>>584294154>There are at least 5 people that do that on moon guard, all of them exploit in some way
>>584294398sorry bro, you can't talk about it in wowg.
>>584237553Surely the classes are better/more fun to play?I haven't played since Sneedolands but I'd be very suprised if retail does not have the best version of their classes.As much as people shit on MoP, I used to see people say it has the best classes ever. I liked Legion Enhance. Or WoD Unholy. I'm not about to go play Classic to press one button for 15 minutes. In fact this is my biggest gripe with these nostalgiabait game versions.
>>584294459>As much as people shit on MoPThe fuck are you talking about? Mop is one of the best and fan favorite expansion.
>>584294648come on anon people shit on MoP all the time due to Kung Fu Panda vibes. Don't play dumb
>>584294723Only the mongoloids, mop was one of the peak expansions and people love it
I am the blade of the Light.
>>584294810>Only the mongoloids,Precisely.Just yesterday I read this>>584173417Unfortunately, mongoloids make up a large portion of the wow playerbase.
>>584294810MoP was my first expansion and I loved it so much. Whenever I quit WoW all I need to bring me back in is to listen to the ost from pandaria
>>584288162this. you tell people this and they act like you're crazy, like they can't even imagine not playing WoW is an option. I just came back recently after a 6 year break which was result of being burned out on everything about the game every aspect every classes every spec. happened twice before that too, took years off every time though this recent one was the longest break ever. now the game is great again, I like the chase I like having goals I like having the urge to play every class again and learn everything about the game all over again. meanwhile you got retarfs who've been playing more or less nonstop since release wondering why they're tired of the game. because you've been playing it for 22 fucking years, retarf.
>>584187125>1 day ago
>>584295163True.>>584295323Cata had a big spike in raid difficulty but mop truly improved gameplay and class design.
>>584290102>>584290837it's worth the visit to the clinic to live the fleeting dream of the nelfwife
>>584295107they better fucking notrefuse to kill off any of the vast army of horrible bitchesand then kill off the only faultless believeable female lead in the whole fucking game.
>>584295374I usually take a break for the second half of the expansion. Come back just before prepatch and utilize the catchup mechanisms to get whatever i missed. Midnight felt like shit from the beginning. I haven't really enjoyed my time with it at all this expac and I'm just finishing up some cheeves and I'll be done with what I want out of S2 and then dip until TLT. I'm seeing lots of my friends and guildies feel the same way. I've got a feeling that the devs are just stretched way too thin and now everything feels kinda rushed, buggy and shit.S2 is especially a big disappointment for me because I LOVE Amani trolls and I thought we'd get something on the same level as Undermined.
>>584295691FOR QUEL'THELAS OR SOMETHING*gets vored*
>>584295810brehslook at those wings...
>>584295810the wings are cool desu
Game is shit because of the ability prune. Only seniors, the disabled, and streamers who rely on the race for income play this.
>>584295810>FOR QUEL'THELAS AND THE PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE WITH THE AMANI TROLLSWhat did she mean by that?
>>584295691I remember people saying the ptr proved she survived.>>584295867>>584295874You can get those wings if you're a paladin.
its over im getting no replies to my guild applications
>>584296157>You can get those wings if you're a paladin.no you can't
>>584296365Yes you can if you kill m kithix
>guild applicationsAnyone gonna tell him?
>>584295810Midnight>actually the Amani all hate Zul'jin even more than they hate the elves and blame him for literally everything>actually the Amani didn't beat Kith'ix at all and it's actually horrible they summoned Ula'tek to destroy him and it would have been more honorable and good if they just all gave up and died>actually now with their chance to beat Kith'ix for real we need to give that opportunity to Liadrin so they can thank her forever and submit to permanent blood elf ruleOne of the biggest humiliation rituals in WoW history, it would have been better if they just kept the Amani as villains because at least they'd act like themselves still
>>584296819mmmsorry chud there's no war in WarCraft, closest thing you can get to a troll still hating elves is an unnamed NPC saying he almost killed a blood elf out of habit (this interaction is easily missed unless you're autistic enough to click on NPCs during quests)
>>584296819but anon everyone should just submit to blood elf rule.all azeroth under The Horde of Warchief for Life Theron and Queen Thalyssra the Eternal.
>>584296984uhhh yikes anon, you mean King Arator right?
>>584296819you should know that any race that NuBlizz touches turns to shitDwarf, Goblin, Nelfs, Belf, Darkspear, Dragonseven the tiny amount of Worgen updates fucked them over
>>584296819>actually the Amani all hate Zul'jin even more than they hate the elves and blame him for literally everythingI dont even know how you'd take issue with this.Its well documented fact that strongman/warmongers who lead their people to destruction in failed bids for power are virtually always reviled after the fact.History is not kind to losers and when the loser is an autocrat blame can be firmly fixed onto him personally.Hitlers was entirely personally responsible for the demolition of the German State in WW2. H choice to seek endless new wars for gain and lands for subjugation led to the downfall of his people and now he is rightfully despised.Same with Napoleon. France was laid low by his ambition, if he hadnt been such an egomaniac France might have become a superpower.
The modern Blizzard granny writers are more racist than the dudebro breastmilk chuggers were sexist.
Which is more fun arms or ass rogue?Which doesn't suck ass if I have to prog a boss for 3 hours
>>584297362And zuljan severed their connection with the loa.>>584297392The whole breastmilk shit was fake.
>>584297602Arms fucking sucks so muchI would go rogue
Gnomadins when?
>>584297606The loa are a raw fucking deal for the trolls>since two of your leaders mistreated us we are abandoning the entire population>also if you want to go a single inch past your current borders we are refusing to help you>also if you have problems internally within your own land we can't help you either because of uhhh a curse lol no we can't explain why they wrote this retarded shitBasically their only purpose is maintaining their existing borders and they can't even do anything half the time anyways, they are dogshit and if the writers wanted you to think otherwise they probably should have made them do shit on the Coiled Isle instead of having Liadrin solve every problem
>>584298185>mistreated usThey tried to consume them like the drakkari did
da dust o' bonefo da loa o' death
Retail needs attention.Retail needs reworks.Retail needs a reset.
>>584297772Right after worgadins...... in two more weeks
>>584299229be careful someones gonna call you indian
>>584299303Nyo
I've been reading the Absolute DC series, I wish we could get a patch/expac with this kinda tone for druids. We had that one cutscene where Malfurion went apeshit and it was so cool
>>584299583I haven't read Absolute Batman yet but I loved the Absolute WW crossover. I wish WoW could lean into that vibe more, imagine Absolute Lich King.
>>584296434give me a link asshole
>>584300939Google the loot nigga it's a mythic only drop
>>584297772neverpiss off, runt
>>584296434>>584301023damn sucks that it's mythic only.
>>584301074It's going to be easy to kill
We should fail at the end of the last Titan and evil Azeroth should destroy the universe. Have the Bronze Dragons freeze time right before the end and evacuate everyone to the forever wow timeline Free transfer to forever or you can stay in the last moments of retail wow until they shut the servers down. All achievements get converted to Fos, maybe keep mogs, keep pets/toys/mounts/titles. If you stay in retail and don't transfer any characters you get put in a hall of fame list and your characters are gone for good.Would you escape to forever or would you go down with the ship?
>>584297772Gnomes don't believe in that shit, the Light is for losers who can't be fucked finding their own answers.
>>584301163If SWTOR and LOTRO and fucking DD Universe Online can have updates I'm sure retail wow can too. There will always be Maze Rats that don't want to player Forever.
>>584301163>>584301383What are you shitposters going to do during the first forever low season?
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=284159/libram-of-the-matriarch
>>584301163The writers are the same and people are still acting like Forever is going to be so much better as a 'start over fresh' experience.In your scenario, we'd be abandoning one horrible and gay world for one they have renewed opportunities to make even fucking gayer.
>>584301503ask for wow eternal because forever clearly wasn't what the devs wanted for us real consoomers
>>584301645https://www.wowhead.com/news/libram-of-the-matriarch-new-paladin-glyph-grants-liadrins-wings-382917pic of the wings here, much lamer in game for understandable reasons.
>mythic kith'ix doesn't have ce cheevoI SLEEP AND IT WILL BE 1 SHOT BY LIQUIT AND ECHO JUST LIKE ROTMIRE
>>584301843>>584301843>>584301843migrate nerds
>>584301741https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phxy5Gat_Gs&t=63sIt's in the trailer
>>584301503Play a different game.
>>584297772Do Gnomes give a shit about the Light?
