>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA)<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA)>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins on November 4th.Previous Thread >>584190140
there's also a guild called remigration on na horde, i forget whether pvp or pve, because tranny op can't be bothered to include anything but re-made tranny clique guilds from /wpsg/
I would never join a guild with you subhumans
How much longer will he stay silent?
>>584213167>guild remigrationWhy are you paying for and playing a game made by indians
>>584213228>t.
fix ele shaman you paycheck thieving """""""""""""devs"""""""""""""
>>584213248this guy basically made wow forever
>>584213167mfs be like "i'm fascist but I must play das judenspiel and im happy to pay herr goldberg for t he privilege"
BETA IS IN SHAMBLES, EVERYTHING IS BROKEN, DEVS SWAMPED WITH STREAMER DEMANDS TO HOTFIX IRRELEVANT BUGS FOR FAKE AND GAY STREAMER TOURNAMENT, TOP STREAMERS DEMANDING LAUNCH GET PUSHED BACK TO FIX BUGS THEY'RE CREATING, ITS OVER, ITS OVER, ITS OVER
will there be a rpvp eu alliance guild?
>>584213253because chuds are hypocrites and paperthin convictionthats why they are so easy to manipulate
>>584213302>retard doesn't even know that riding skill is the expensive thing you need to buy with goldAll these retards outing themselves as not classic players.
>>584213532>800g>ExpensiveSpotted the scrub
>>584213532Classic had high mount cost and low riding cost tho
If Skelves can speak Darnassian then Undead should be able to speak Common. Make it happen Blizzard
>>584213532>self report
horde domination
>>584213626let's do this sis!
>>584213729thats right sister
>>584213392this lol
>>584213532That's a Forever change, friendo
>>584213248He already called it "retail 2" and refused to play it.
>>584213709Their mouths are too rotten to speak human languange.
>>584213651Always been 800-1000g for training and like 100g for the mount to me.
>>584213898TBC changehttps://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=4730/lelanai#sellshttps://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=4730/lelanai#sells
>>584213248I'm only interested in watching compilations where a person points out when he looks at his phone to solve a puzzle.
>>584213875Yeah, I'm sure it's the game he's not interested in, not the playerbase who will make fun of him everywhere he goes.
>>584213960Yeah so it's not a forever change. Been part of classic for a long time.
if I dont get a beta invite I will not play the game when it launches
>incels are flexing their random hotfix and obscure game state knowledge as if anyone cares
>>584213758looks like a human paladin player
You know what really grinds my gears? People who join dungeon groups while 3 zones away from the dungeon. In vanilla this made sense when you needed to spam general chat for hours to slowly form a group while questing. But on Forever you can easily make a full party within minutes. There is NO REASON to start or look for a dungeon group when you are nowhere near the entrance.
>>584213758gnome warrior
>blizzard selling gold is fine because its only 110g this time
>>584214168Mount cost is general knowledge and one of the things that people wanted kept as is for classic. In vanilla there were plenty of people who wanted to save the cost of the epic mount by getting the AV mount or even the rank 11 one.
>>584214150
>>584214223/who
GET A BREZ ON ZUELASE
>>584214223>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! MAKING 4 PEOPLE WAIT FOR ME TO TAKE THE ZEPPLIN THEN WALK TO SFK IS PART OF THE EXPERIENCE!
>>584214325Even in other forms of vanilla classic i remember training being 1000g (reduced to 800g) and rank 11 mounts being able to bypass the cost cause they were epic mounts that only required 75 riding skill not max.
>>584214223They're all following restedxp which tells them to "start looking for a group now," presuming a later state of the game so no guide revision is necessary, while they do a bunch of cleanup quests and exploration. That's the only reason. Nobody with a soul and a conscience would start looking for a group until they were very nearly there.
>>584214524Hire a warlock or don't invite the guy if he's too far away.
>>584213890They canonically can speak common, as you can see in the duskwood quests
>>584213028Retail wow is made for faggots and pedophiles
>>584214223You didn't want dungeon finder, so instead you get to cry about this. Suck it up.
>>584214583Is THAT what causes this bullshit? Restedxp telling retards to look for dungeons while an entire continent away???
>>584213729
>>584214708Verily I say to you, it is.
>>584214581Vanilla didn't actually have 75 and 150 riding. It had race mount specific riding you bought at 40. Horse riding and such. 60 mounts didn't require a new form of riding.
>>584214223If I'm making a group for the wetlands dungeon as Horde on the pvp server and you are not directly standing outside the dungeon entrance you are immediately kicked.
>>584214708No, people are just retarded.People who use rested xp even moreso but it would happen anyway
What's he so smug about
>>584214857People are retarded, there are always randos who might do that out of ignorance or insensitivity, but you grossly underestimate the ubiquity of restedxp and the streamer meta. People are unironically buying this for the beta, and the guide does say to start looking for a group right at the point these things are happening, from exactly the location the restedxp guide has taken them when it instructs them to start looking for a group.
So is restedxp just noob bait? I've never touched the addon and easily get ahead of the leveling pack on fresh launches.
Remider that as stated by the devs themselves, wow forever is about the JOURNEY. If you're a minmax parse retail player then you are playing the wrong game
>>584214772Hello Nayuta from Nikke
>>584214907he just had sex with onyxia
>>584215002it's noob bait if you pay for it. if you just download a cracked version it's retardedly efficient, especially if you know the game well enough to ignore it when it says something insane. >>584215041famous biblical phrases are not exclusive to whatever troon game that is, anon!
>>584214907I'd be pretty smug too if I got to fuck a dragon
>>584214907Anduin looks like Varian was a Gnome
So I love playing nelfs. But hate their starting zone, anyone else? I basically just reach level 5 and go to Elwynn. The problem is if you're druid or hunter you have to go back and shit for class quests
What are we going to do if Aggrend, the king of fatties and e-celeb simps, lied and we don't get new classes, new cool races or new specs and instead all we get is MC in 6 months and a 50% pop drop?
>>584213898Flipped in TBC. It's gonna be the TBC one in Classic because multiple mounts is more fun and they can give away epic mounts from different sources since it will only save 100g.
>>584215119does hunter need to go back now that humans have hunter trainers
>>584215119yeah it sucks, but it comes with the territory no pun intended.
>>584215119Skill issueElwynn is boring, Dun Morogh is good but Teldrassil is the best. Noobs just get filtered by the furbolg cave
>>584215007With no level cap increase and legacy points for each class that gives me more than enough "journey" whenever I want with alts. I'm still going to speed to 60 and minmax like a giga autist.
>>584215089Jerking off to girls with fat asses and big tits does not make a troon gameit's an asian made game so the core design goal is pleasing the straight male penis wow is far more of a troon game, you've seen retail and all the troons and tranny gay flags everywhere
>"No guys, alliance is actually the cool chuds, its alliance! Horde is trannies!">"Noooo!! Its horde, we are the based chuds, alliance is the troons!"hehehe40 year old men by the way.
>>584215121things like new classes and even more fucking races are really a first or second year anniversary big update kind of thing. this beta is riddled with bugs, there's no fucking way they can add a class or a race in 6 months.
>>584215002It's "good" but I don't see any value in paying for it.
>>584215203Good question! I don't actually have the beta. So can anyone confirm?
>>584215002It does work, but you are baiting yourself into rushing to 60 to get back to raidlogging Molten Core as soon as possible and paying for the privilege.
I am torn between mage and warlockI like having portals, especially if legacy points make them effectively free and I can just give free rides when I'm relaxingBut warlocks have pets and its nice to have a blue blob or succy hanging around, and DoTs always made me happy
>>584215306horde: normal peoplealliance: chud incel faggot wastes of oxygenthere you go, fixed that for you
>>584215306this but unironically, alliance is full of agp troons
>>584215316New classes and new races aren't coming at all, period. Why would they expend that effort when Forever is a literal side project to their main focus?At best we'll either get more texture recolors or backported classes like Death Knights, Demon Hunters, Monks or Evokers.
>>584215002Yes. You have to be a literal golem to use restedexp. You have to fucking pay for it or or get a stolen code or whatever like what are we even talking about here?Who the fuck needs an addon to tell you how to quest when questie exists and literally shows you every quest on the map? Imagine being so retarded you can't look at every quest on the map and figure out where you should go next.Restedexp in forever is even more retarded because forever has fucking questie BUILT IN.IMAGINE NEEDING AN ADDON TELLING YOU HOW TO QUEST WHEN THE GAME TELLS YOU HOW TO QUEST ALREADY.Let's take it a step further and acknowledge that forever isn't even out yet and has over 1000 new quests added that restedexp has no knowledge of and doesn't take those into account yet. Imagine following a useless addon that is out of date.Let's take one more step further and acknowledge this is a fucking beta server. IMAGINE USING A QUEST ADDON ON AN UNFINISHED BETA SERVER.I cannot state enough how much of a low IQ pleb retard you have to be to even consider using restedexp. Only a subhuman could even consider such a thing.
>>584215381I'm afraid they're shared by both factionnow that we've got the blue elves.
>>584215121New races are not cool and neither are new classes. Not a single new class was a good addition to WoW.
>>584215452But chud... WoW players *are* low IQ plebs.
>>584215409okay, but i would say new classes are death nights, etc, new races are goblins, etc. i'm just talking about new in addition to what we currently have. i don't care if they exist in retail, and i don't know anyone who's seriously demanding a completely novel class design or race, except for schizophrenic CoA trannies.
>>584215007>Don't minmax in the imba soddy 2>Get left behind, can't exploit shit>People who minmax get to the bugged exploitable things faster>They get so ahead it is impossible to catch up (Billions of gold, items, etc...)>Slowies become perma slaves that need to piggy up, making those that are ahead, even further aheadKekkyPOWY!WoWF is just a game from streamers and minmaxxes, like classic was, like sod was and so on and so forth.If you aren't at the top of the pack, you are a toilet for those that are, like IRL.Rushers and minmaxxers=Epstein class.Slowies=Goy cattle.Ask yourself, will you be goy cattle in game too?
>>584215452>forever has fucking questie BUILT IN.Think you still need questie if you want to see quest starters on the world map.
>>584215547>i don't know anyone who's seriously demanding a completely novel class design or raceLiterally almost every single copium brained retard who's buying into this temporary Forever project including most of the retards who post here.
@584215467Ah I see we are in the full cuck cope mode (Acceptance).
>>584215560The biggest advantage to rushing is being able to farm endgame items to sell on the AH before the prices plummet. I genuinely don't know how anyone is able to afford epic riding if they don't hit 60 within the first month.
>>584215467Monks are good and you are gay if you disagree.Still if they were to add them to forever I'd prefer some sort of ascetic that fights with fists, staves and magic rather than a shaolin monk.
>>584215452that's a really long post to just lie about how you don't use restedxp, friendo
>>584215610i want necromancer fuck you cocksucker
>>584215452>GOOOOOY!!! GOY DON'T GET AHEAD, GOY DON'T BE EFFICIENT!! GOY DON'T DO THAT, DON'T GET AHEAD AND GET THE GOOD EXPLOITS>Oyyyy yid blyat, don't ask me what (((addons))) I'm using goy, only TRP heheh I sweeear haha~
>>584215560Funny little ironic post my man but I detect you actually believe some of this... playing wow 10h a day is actual goyim behaviour
>>584215701Then mod your client to make a Warlock look like one, because you sure as hell aren't getting a real one in Forever.
>>584215560>KekkyPOWYThanks for immediately identifying your post as dogshit. I shan't read the rest
>>584215306The real secret is both factions are full of troons
>>584214223Sorry buddy but I just que up and continue questing until someone invites me.
>>584215452I hate rxp but you're underselling what it does. Noob can go to zone x, pick up all the quests and starts doing some. He then is annoyed to find out that due to various followup quests or quests from other zones, he ends up going to the same place multiple times. For example having to go back to that mine in Elwynn for Goldtooth after already having done the others quests there. rxp knows this in advance.Of course this shouldn't be solved by an addon for you, it's experience you build up for your next character
>>584215774he's a grown man trying to use troon terminal online ironism but it just makes him look like a retard who's never had sex
>>584215663That's on a stock vanilla server, if you, for an attosecond believe that Faggrend hasn't left 60+ exploits to get infinite gold in the game you are fucking deranged and haven't played SoD.Anyone rushing will be heavily rewarded because they'll get to exploit the SHIT out of the bugfest of an endgame that aggrend will have left behind since his beloved streamers haven't gotten to it yet.I'll laugh if he just straight up left incursions up and some people rushing to 40 get to start with a sizeable +10 level lead and 10k+ gold after a day of turbo grinding before it gets "fixed".
>>584214223I once put up a group for BFD when I was in Ratchet, and I figured I might as well grab Desolace's flight path early while the group filled and people headed over. I ran all the way from Ratchet (was turning in WC quests, so that's why I didn't come from Ashenvale) to the Alliance flight path in Stonetalon to grab it too, down to Desolace, and then back through Stonetalon because I actually forgot to talk to the flightmaster (and got into four separate fights on the way back), and some nigga was STILL in Duskwood picking up his quest drops
Here is the actual restedxp guide for Forever, no payment required>pick up all the dungeon quests>do each dungeon once>congrats you hit 60 with barely any outdoor questing and kept up with good blue gear the entire time!
THREADLY REMINDER, ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>584215774>>584215754Aight, I'll own you in game.Remember my little cucky, the barrow boost goes for 5k, but for you lil gup? 3k, F&F price.
I can't wait to gank every faggot clothcuck I see.
>>584215738>zoom zoom thinks he can get ahead by following an out of date addonlol, lmaoOnly addons i use are basic quality of life stuff like questie, bagnon, vendor prices, atlas loot, details, leatrix maps.Everything except atlas loot is built into the game by default in forever so literally the only addon i will ever even use in forever will be the dungeon journal one.If you use anything else you're a cuck and a faggot as far as i'm concerned.
>>584215942no one cares what some lvl36 noob thinks
>>584215790I guess 20 years of WoW does that to people.
>>584213028Only fat faggots like retail wow
I hope blizzard add all retail appearance customations so I can make my zombie waifu~
>>584216008Concession accepted. I expect you to uninstall restedexp by tomorrow.
>>584214907Anduin is so lucky, I want to suck her saggy flat dragon boobies.
>>584215306Literally no one wants to deal with trannies. No one. The best you can hope for is TOLERANCE while people pretend to be okay with trannies existing so they don't get their lives ruined by troons doxxing them and sending them death threats and harassing their place of work until they get them fired for not playing make believe.
>>584216176The cute ones are fine. Admittedly only 1-2 percent but still.
>>584216176but every single tranny i've ever met in or out of game has been really nice? they're much less annoying than overcompensating chuds who can't stop talking about trannies..
>>584216324definitely not a tranny btw
>>584213729>>584214746fpbp
>>584216176I'd rather play with a few transbians than one chuddie
>>584216324Dial 8, axe wound.
>>584216309I imagine passing does wonders for their mental health. Imagine transitioning because you're ugly and being even uglier.
>>584216324you need at least two more personal anecdotes to make a point
>>584216324>he interacts with tranniesHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584216361i don't believe gender exists, only immutable biological sex, so no, not a tranny. it's simply an undisputable fact that people constantly talking about trannies are much more annoying than trannies themselves. sorry for not going with the herd anon
>>584215381its crazy people make this claim when we know most undead rogues are agp.
>>584216450I had immutable biological sex with your mother last night
>>584216445>he's in a thread full of trannies and he doesn't think he's interacting with them
Yes I am transYes I will be making an undead paladinNo you can’t see it
>>584216496bodied that freak
okay enough of this tranny speak you dont pass time to leave the thread you ugly ogres
>>584216324Never been stalked and harassed by a chud. Have been stalked and harassed by a few trannies.
>>584216309Only pre op. Axe wounds are gross
I have heard classic is rewritten to be more modern with more lgbtq+ and people of color and strong female characters, is this true? I'm not trying to ragebait or anything, i don't know anything about wow, i played a little bit of classic and really liked it but i have no idea if what i played was actually how it was years and years ago or rewritten modernized stuff. Can anyone tell me? I can't find any info on it online.
>>584216752Afaik it's censored but nothing new was added except the orc chick in the Crossroads being a cunt for no reason
>>584213028Retail wow is faggot aids
>>584216752no one could tell you because no one actually reads quest text
>>584216752They really seem to be targeting the horde with it.
>>584216876I did, i think everything in duskwood was the coolest thing since sliced bread but again, i have no idea if it was rewritten ''woke'' or original writing.
>>584215349both classes are my most played in vanillatp/portal reagents aren't that expensive, even making them entirely free is kinda whatever because they still take up bag space. and again, they were never THAT expensive to begin with. almost unnoticeable. don't let it sway your choiceI'm going warlock this time, I've burned out on mage + I'm tired of shamans purging my ice barrier. sacrifice has the same problem but at least soul link can't be purged. I'll miss the instants, the mobility and control, but warlock has a lot going for it so it's all good
>>584216885you just know shes taking zeppelin to orgrimmar every night
I've never seen a tranny IRL, yet there are a ton on this website. Really makes you think doesn't it?
>ele sham
>>584215452Based and completely correct.If any of my friends used restedxp, I'd promptly call them a retard and tell them to kill themselves.
where did the hype go
>>584216885I don't get it, is this not normal in wow?
>>584217189I killed it. It was all me.
Why do horde players have a victim mentality?
>>584217238There isn't as much apologism for objective evil.
>>584217238It wouldn't be out of place in retail at all
>>584217172Restedexp is forever is really what blows my mind. Who would even think about downloading an addon that is a quest guide in a new game where the guide is completely out of date?
>min maxing>using restedxp>skipping all quest text and lore and just focusing on quest objective >not socializing with group mates im just here for loot and XP>could buff people but don't because I can't afford to waste one second of progress yup it's time to go fast
>>584217189we're simultaneously too deep into the beta for fresh hype and also too close to the shutdown for anyone to care to invest more time and energy. it's a lull period
>>584217101They live perpetually online
I AM WILLING TO BET 1K RIGHT NOW THAT IF IN 6 MONTHS FROM NOW THEY RELEASE CLASSIC REALMS WITH A FEW NEW RACES AND NO OTHER CHANGES IT WILL 100% BE MORE POPULAR THAN FOREVER
>>584217243Why’d you do it?
>>584217189I don't want to burn out before launch.
>>584216828>Afaik it's censored but nothing new was added except the orc chick in the Crossroads being a cunt for no reasonshe was a cunt in classic too wasnt she
>>584216324Every one I've interacted with is a massive narcissist who's preeminent desire is to create a cult of personality around him and his "struggles". The the struggle is that he was underconfident with women to the point that he thinks he could get women by turning into one.
Why does Rogue get to keep Cold Blood but Shamans lose Elemental Mastery?>EM is better!Yeah, it requires twice the talent points. There is no logical argument for this other than Faggrend and his obsession with Paladins naturally hating Shamans.
>>584217725One tourist actually read her quest text for once and shat his diaper in rage.
they've already done to many class changes its only down hill from here and it hasn't even released yet
>>584217941then play your fucking 1.12 forever you autistic retard
>>584216752which of your grifter channel told you that?
>>584218031Asmongold isn't a grifter.
>>584217447>capscuck
>>584216885What quest addon is that?
>>584217941They'll have to scramble at release and rebalance everything for leveling to 60 since they've been balancing around the level 30 streamer tournament
Not sure I'll play WoWF if I'm losing my R1 titles and server firsts. Yeah its cute for you guys to start over because you've always been losers in game. With this release the only people with clout will be streamers or no-lifers that can spend all day grinding honor.
>>584217101that's because they don't go outside and live online. Whenever I've seen one irl it's a genuine burst out laughing moment because theyre such retarded freaks
>>584217924sounds about right
>>584217386who would even think about rushing through a brand new game lmao
>>584216885if this had been in vanilla no one would have cared
>>584218130honestly this entire thing looks like sod 2.0 except they assigned more people to the dev team so they can graft a bigger volume of wotlk/retail assets into the game
should I sub to retail for a month to kill time until WoWF? I haven't touched retail since early Cata
>>584218294it's same sub
>>584218282Vanilla was about war, not crying about prejudice and feelings.
>>584218031Don't remember, but it doesn't matter, even if it was a shit head grifter, if it's true what he said than it's true and i'm not a big fan of rewriting for the sake of political correctness. I would like to have the pure classic experiance.
>>584218364Beta doesn't require a sub
broken dreanei when?
TRANNY STOMPING IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
>>584218294you can play hardcore.
>>584218387and what if its not true? would you take any consequences from them telling you lies to push their agenda?
Every day I wake up and wonder: how did Blizzard fuck up today?It wasn't even hard to take vanilla and add some cool shit, like long chain quests, little secrets everywhere, some class changes. Instead they fucked it all up. Mind-boggling incompetence. I hate how they smugly smile and lie right in my face. The worst part is they'll actually get bonuses for releasing this piece of shit.
>>584218591Then it's not true and life goes on
>>584218591Asmongoldstein would never lie to me.
>>584218591I don't see why i would take the consequences of their lies, but i have seen it myself, i saw a gender swapped guy, i saw a race swapped guy in a flower shop i think, in stormwind, and my brother showed me a ghost in retail that was happy he was a ghost because he didn't agree with the gender of their body or something. I Believe politically correctness really gets in the way of good writing and it was the writing i really enjoyed the few hours i played classic. I just wondered if wow forever will have good writing or be crippled by this modern writing.
>>584218664>add some cool shit, like long chain quests, little secrets everywhere, some class changesThey did all those though
>>584218182why don't you play a real competitive game like Quake, Starcraft, SF or chess? nobody gives a fuck about your "R1 title clout" lmao.
>>584218797The writing is done by same people who did retail. Do you think they suddenly got good or changed their style?
After playing the beta, I'm not really feeling the vision. I think I might just sell the collector's edition on ebay for double the price I purchased it for while prices are inflated and just skip this, or maybe just keep the bear statue and WC3 campaign. WoWF feels like all the worst parts of SoD, with retail graphics. >Horizontal progression is clearly vertical progression.>Classes are balanced only around the wclog meta, and don't even look like they did a good job at that.>Forced to do quests. They completely killed standard grinding in all formats by decreasing mob xp in both the world and dungeons.>Legacy points are effectively required to keep up with other players. The bonuses are way too strong.>Already talks about dailiy and weekly quests being added by the devs>All class changes are just retail abilities poorly ported overIt's really just looking to be retail with a fresh coat of paint. I can already tell that just like SoD after a few months I'm just going to quit.
>>584218907Some people are just addicted to complaining
>>584218960>the visionThere is no vision besides listening to big streamers, that's the problem.
>>584219012Ah yeah, I forgot to add that to my list.>Streamer driven development
>>584218917I wouldn't know, isn't the whole thing with forever that it's supposed to be like classic? I would expect them to write like it was classic in that case
>>584218960This is such a fake post it's cringe to read.
>>584219130You think they put the people behind vanilla WoW into cryosleep and just thawed them out? Forever dev team is a couple of the old guard trying and failing to wrangle a bunch of people they took off of retail. Most new things added stick out like a sore thumb.
>>584218960>after a few months I'm just going to quit.i am going to blow your mind but this is what happens when you are a real human person and not some NEET tranny who makes a video game their entire life. and it's actually a good thing. only the retarded keep running in circles my friend.
>>584218960>game made by same team responsible for every single classic fuck up>same team that designed sod>expecting anything else but retail
>>584218907There really isn't any new long chains and what secrets?
>>584219265Oh, that makes sense, sad to hear
I don't like questie, it shows quests I can't pick up yet. Like starting zones are flooded with exclamation points on the mini map thar are chains
more like retail minus lmao
>she's posting her anti-forever folder again
God it must be so much easier to play this game left-handed when you can just put all your keybinds to your numpad and just use your mouse in your left hand.
Does wow forever have quest markers or do you actually have to read directions from quest givers?
>>584219592I say this and look like this
>it's about the journey>also the game will feel like shit until the journey is nearly over :)
>>584218797>i saw a race swapped guy in a flower shop i thinkterrifying
>>584219754I don't know if you are aware of this, but you can bind more than just your number keys.
>>584219754You could also just get a left-sided numpad, anon
>>584219816looking good champ
>>584219815it does. kind of built-in questie. but it can be turned off
>>584219873and I hate it, it just feels wrong to have my setup be displayed as a bunch of random letters except for W which I use for moving forwards.
>>584217189No high/blood elves, so Forever is worthless.
>>584219849>also the game will feel like shit until the journey is nearly over :)That's not true though. They literally made classes come online earlier and gave access to some better gear earlier and now all the tourist retards think everyone is too strong and content is too easy.
>>584219754Your MMO mouse?
>>584219990That is just Chris Chane levels of autism if it bothers you to see letters instead of numbers on your keybinds.
>>584219754You sound retarded, or worse, left handed.
alex was right
>>584215452based
Since the beta is international, has anyone gone around spamming the winnie the pooh copy pasta in chats to get the roaches internet shut off?
>>584218294I did this, just don't
>>584219754Anon this is vanilla, only the most autistic of PVPers need even a remotely advanced setup. Rogues at 60 is legit like...maybe 5 moves in your entire rotation you'll ever use, you can fit it all on one bar and the rest is "oh shit" buttons you use for pvp.
>>584220219China still has their own version of WoW. If you get them with the Pooh copypasta it won't matter because they are already on a VPN to be on our beta.
>>584220219>>584220291the only ones you'll see are taiwanese, singapore, or other diaspora
Hey fatrend when are we going to get dungeons with holy immune enemies? Put on the fucking dress
>>584213248His spirit will live on in my shitty macro.
>>584220345IN YOU GO ANON *WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR*You can stay here... FOREVER BAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>584220393Mana gem(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST.)
Can anyone make a horde skelf shaman on pvp and then list their shirt on the neutral ah? thanks
>>584220345Paladin won't need to wear the dress since you can already craft level 20 mail with 200 healing in it and will have plate versions laterThey're going to be even harder to kill later
Anons face when he makes it to 60 with nothing to do except a new raid that will be over in a couple hours.
>>584220393i alwys chuckle hearing that in the hc comps
>>584220581There wont even be a reason to run the raid multiple times because of the EXP nerf :^)
>>584219849friction is needed in the journey
>>584220442It got to the point where people would get banned for simply typing "M"
>>584220581>reach level 60>immediately start leveling another character
>>584220581Your MOUNTS, MOGS AND CHEEVOS bro?
>>584220730We ll get them legacious points anon. we are gonna farm em so hard
>>584220793The journey is the point.
>lich king invades the mainland instead of us going to northrendi would prefer this
>>584220730Literally what most people did before they added all the daily and weekly chores.
>>584220840So like in vanilla with Naxx?
>>584220840northrend is azeroth tho they shouldnt be afraid to use the other continents in the future
>can't join the Scarlet CrusadeGay as fuck
>>584220996So is Pandaria.
>>584220840I hate the Wrath Ghouls so much.
does weapon speed matter for ferals now?
>>584221018Hopefully they wont job them out like they did in retoilet.
>>584221192Also their voices went from monstrous (not as W3's but still) to this stupid "nyahhhh" whatever it is.
Interesting that neither Jahy nor Midna are in these threads. I guess they really are just brown poorfags.
>>584219257How is it fake? Just because you're a mazed rat and don't understand it?
I will play female nelf rogue
>>584221558based. Are you also looking for a bf?
>>584220926They've already indicated they plan on adding daily/weekly chores to the game in a recent interview.
>>584221332No. Feral attack speed is consistent per form. You just want something with bigger stats, so 2H is the play.
>>584221332Nope
Ok Nerds need help. I wanted to try Rogue, since. I like Orcs, so vision of Orc dual wielding two axes was cool, and with Orc racial for axes seemed logical. But now i see that Backstab is for Daggers only. So my questions is: Is Backstab a must have for Rogues, or i can just ignore it and roleplay as a Axeman?Also
>one retarded samefagger who's ERPing with himself all day every threadWhy doesn't the janny just remove this guy? Is he the janny?
>>584221719who are you talking about anon?
>>584220828This. And that mindset no longer exists, which is why Blizzard will inevitably slop it up with endgame activities.
><Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA)i thought they were EU
>>584221719meds
>>584221692Sinister Strike and Slice and Dice is all you will ever need.
>>584221692For leveling: Backstab is only for low levels anyway, once you get garrote or ambush, you don't really need backstab. Only time you'll need to do it is in raids at higher level and even then, you can probably get away with other combo builders so long as you keep up SnD at all times.
>>584221692you can transmog daggers into axes
>>584221797It has everyone from na eu and oceania, it'll also be RP at launch
>>584221653>>584221659mucho arigato
>>584221518>hey guys i totally bought this really expensive and limited edition physical goody bag but ummm gee you know what i'm just not hecking feeling the game!>lists a bunch of schizo nonsense that is either not true at all or misconstrued>i think imma get a refund and skip thisVery organic post. Doesn't read like a low effort shitpost at all.
how is affliction looking?
>people that rush 60 abuse all the broken farming strats which get fixed before (You) get there>can't catch up if you wanted to because now you're being camped by ?? rogues, levels take 2x as long, and you can't even hide in instanced content because it's nerfed to shit, snowballing into complete economic and endgame dominancethey can say its about the journey all they wantbut actions speak louder than words
>>584220581It's fine, PoE2 comes out in December.
>>584221870>>584221872Thanks bros, this clarify.>>584221884You're right i guess. I wanted to try to play the game without transmog to enjoy clownsuits, but i'll probably turn it on eventually since i always enjoyed it on retail. Thanks.
>>584221743>>584221861retards>>584221558>>584221597
>>584222159id rather watch paint dry
any monsters and memories enjoyers herei tried it yesterday and the jank is real
Pandaren would've been a way cooler neutral race than stupid blue elves
>>584222085just roll on a rp server
>>584222159>>584222225>poe
>>584222224you lost chud. Trans rights matter and Forever will no longer tolerate your bigoted kind
>>584222005>get the game>actually play it>it's shit>regret buying itThis totally has never happened in the history of video games. There is no way that it could be something someone is experiencing with WoWF.
>get ahead... of what>have a lot of gold>it makes literally no differenceDon't you have some muslims to genocide, jewish lowlife? Imagine adding your own country multiple times to the 109 countries you got kicked out of.
Is there anything to do in the beta right now or should I just hold off for release? I'm kind of curious about Forever and I'll have more free time for the next few weekends, but it seems like right now the only new stuff is gatorade elves, 4 dungeons, minor gameplay adjustments and a few things seemingly geared towards pulling in FFXIV players. Does it really play much different than Classic did?
>have to farm soul shards to summon people to raidIs this really so bad? They even added drain soul procing randomly as you channel it. Can't you just farm some mobs and gather some mats, just play the game and it works out?
>>584222415lmao
>>584218909Because I've played this game since I was in high school. I don't need to play other games to get clout, my real life family, career, house and car show that well enough for me.
>>584219334Wouldn't be much of a secret if everyone knew about it. We're still in the beta so give it time. Bet there's plenty of cool shit to discover at Max level. Real Ashbringer for instance is 100% coming.
it if really didn't matter, if it really didn't affact themthey wouldn't be constantly telling you that you don't need to rushthey know, deep down. so do you
>>584221653>bigger statsFeral damage now scales with weapon dps so you also want high weapon dps rather than just stats.
>>584222085Didn't happen to me in 2005. You're going to be fine.
>>584222560they will add summoning altar like they did in sod
>>584213248I will never get over how smug this little fucker was and how much people worshipped him as a "game dev!" only for it to be relieved he was programing so badly he makes modern indians look like alan turing
>>584222084Instead of spamming shadow bolt after putting up dots now you spam wrack after putting up dots.
is it possible to gift somebody gametime WITHOUT having the game time automatically activate? my friends bday is this weekend and I'd like to give him a code for game time so that I can present him with SOMETHING but don't want it activating until the actual launch. saw gametime codes on amazon but theres a suspicious amount of negative reviews saying the codes dont work and it looks like gifting time via bnet has it activate as soon as the recipient accepts it.
Can the game just launch already?
>>584222787I imagine they still sell gift cards at Walmart or whatever so buy one and give him the code.
>>584221558Why does it matter what gender?
>>584222851what legs are those
>>584222851not until they fix the fuckin bagsand the whispers
>>584222451>There is no way that it could be something someone is experiencing with WoWFCorrect. Thanks for saying it for me. Cause wow forever is just classic+ and nobody would be buying the limited edition physical set for a classic world of warcraft MMO without already being familiar with WoW, and someone familiar with classic WoW wouldn't think a level 20 beta is somehow representative of the full game.It's fun though to pretend that's somehow the same thing as buying some single player game and playing less than 2 hours and requesting a refund.
>>584222851found any orcs yet sis?
>>584222851There's still time to ignore Shamans more.
>>584219592They could've at least chosen a Forsaken model that still had his jaw if he was gonna be so chatty.
>>584223017The best time in classic was 1-20 and 50-60 so it's fairly representative. No need to reply.
found a bug that benefits mei shall not be disclosing it
>>584223017>Cause wow forever is just classic+It's more retail than it is era>someone familiar with classic WoW wouldn't think a level 20 beta is somehow representative of the full gamesomeone familiar with WoW would absolutely be able to see the writing on the wall because they've seen blizzard do the same shit before.
>>584222625>I don't need to play other games to get clout, my real life family, career, house and car show that well enough for me.then why even mention it? if you actually were capable of getting R1 anything in this game and have been playing "since high school" then you very well know it's all just a poopsocking timesink contest.
Is Flash Heal completely redunant with Binding Heal?
>>584223317that isn't a bug, anon
>>584213758>curling 50sdamn i didn't know alex was built like that
>>584223381does it scale with +healing differently?
>>584223317Literal nigger behaviour. Each to their own.
>there are orc corpses in the TB fishing pond again
>>584223317The fix is already in. The game was rigged from the start.
What killed the hype?
>>584223339"Did not play the game" the post
>some classes like mage and warrior got little to no overall>this is because they were already really well designed in class/vanilla and didn't need any changes>shaman got no overall to its treesThis is funny in some cosmic irony sorta way
>>584223381
>>584220840Lich King takes advantage of Northrend nearly getting shattered and finishes the job himself, splitting it into two giant glaciers and firing them off at Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms! Winterspring's mountain coast get absolutely smashed, with the Ice Crown Citadel zone being accessible from up by the frost sabers faction, who will suddenly have more than 2 members, while the Ghostlands+Plaguelands suffer Scourge reinforcements and undead viking invasions on the E.K.!"What about Ulduar?" Who cares, 3D print them at Uldum and AQ."What about the dragons?" Who cares, add the Dragon Isles later/involve it with the scourge invasion.
>>584222560farming shards is not the worst thingalways summoning people one by onecreating and trading healthstones one by onebeing a curse and banish botnow those are what sucks ass
>>584223347It hasn't been this way for a long time. The last poop-sock I have is vengeful glad. Maybe from pre-SS was sweaty, but since SS/Blitz, you can play only a few hours a week and hit elite. Then just wait until the last few weeks of the season and take a day off to pull off a grinder through the last night. I have x3 SS R1 and x2 blitz R1. So maybe much gayer than you were expecting,
>>584223569what does aggrend's cock taste like anon?
>>584223339>It's more retail than it is eraJust can't stop making up lies. This is the saddest lie of all though. Genuinely pathetic and embarrassing for you. Now you're pretending that you're somehow such a total fucking retard that you're buying the limited stock physical edition while being so utterly clueless about world of warcraft that you think mages having ice lance is the same as playing retail with 800% speed flying mounts, zero auto attack damage, ADHD button spam, and m+ queueing simulator.I am a generous person so if you are this desperate for (You)s then i shall keep feeding you.
>Captain, there's something in the distance. There's... there's an island rising out of the Maelstrom!
>>584223835>2 at 30>2 at 20Why? You know it's getting wiped, right?
as a retail gamer boy, forever doesn’t feel like retail at allstill plays like classic
>>584220840This works if they tone down the scourge by Northrend just being a massive island far away.Like sure the undead scourge are this massive endless horde, but it's stuck on the other side of the ocean.The Lich King should send out shit like Naxx to try and invade different areas (and we can get a cool new end game zone like Northern Plaguelands or some shit for this shit) and Northrend can be like it was in Warcraft III. And end game zone we take a boat to that is absurdly hardI'm a really big fan of "raiding zones" like this. Like Northrend being so dangerous you need to go in groups or raids to deal with the mobs and quest there. Same with the Emerald dream. The coolest thing they could do would be to make the emerald dream be super late game zone that only unlocks after you kill one of the four dragons for like seven days, and when you go through the portal you need to stay in your raid group to deal with the absolute fucking bullshit that is the mobs inside that plane of realityHonestly, this is a great chance for horizontal progressive as well. Northrend should require a metric asston of frost resistance to not die to the elements and mobs. And the emerald dream should require an assload of nature resistance
>>584223835I don't know if it's better or worse that you have no idea what era or retail is then.
>>584223995soul vs soulless
>>584223347>>584223786Also I am mentioning this because I have a long history built up with my characters and there is little to no reason to start all over. Why? Because other people can't manage their time? Because they like a slower more braindead version of the game? Don't get me wrong, I'm playing Forever, but the only reason I'm doing so is because its nigh impossible to play retail with my kids. There is too much phasing, too many random questslines and chromie time that make it so I cant even see them in the game, even if we both make new characters. They play a little bit more than I do one day and now we have an irrecoverable phasing lock. Even the "sync" thing in the quest log doesn't help. Retail only works at max level, and they can't handle that speed of gameplay. So maybe if you're a child from age 5 to 10, forever is a better game. But if you've been playing for a while I really don't see the appeal. If its "immersion" and RP, forever isn't going to beat the dreamlight valley/animal crossing extreme that housing is now with guild events.
>>584223995Too much fog in both
>>584223835I can smell the stench
>>584223945>don't have any 30sHow do you know it's going to suck, you didn't event try it?>have 30sWow you know it's going to get deleted right? Why did you even try the game?
this loser replying to himself lmao
>>584223945Testing the classes is the point isn't it?
>>584223381And another thing is that you can't cast binding heal on yourself.
>>584223875Classic was an experience more akin to Retail than Vanilla because it wasn't rebalanced around modern computers, connections and knowledge, which was fine because Blizzard would have fucked that up tremendously. The hope behind Classic+ was Classic but with challenging content and new things to explore. Forever is shaping out to be Classic with some Retail features. Hope this helps.
Clothcucks get the rope
Want to play hunter. How's the pet damage? Classic anniversary I did hunter and hit 60 with a lot of pvp as a survival/beast master minor hybrid. Overall even though I tried to avoid cats because everyone used them I ended up breaking down and leveling a cat at 30 till endgame. Dash, prowl, claw, and the dps made it superior to every other pet.How are the new pets? How is the utility? Was thinking crab might be fun but it's got low dps and the new pinch skill might be too much since I normally can hamstring them anyways. Also bummed dwarf hunter racials don't really match. Does night elf shadow meld stay on your character even if you send your pet to attack?
>>584224195>The hope behind Classic+ was Classic but with challenging content>classic>challenginglol
this retard actually thinks his pixels mean anything kek
>>584224062That version of Northrend would be a good reason to dust off the Molten Core gear if you still had it. You either had the MC gear and could wear it to negate a big chunk of the Frost threat for equivalence of the [Northrend 10m raid that exists on Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms] Frost Resist gear, or you had the aforementioned [Northrend 10m] or rep faction build-up for it instead.
>>584222915
>>584223995Nah it's totally just like retail, you don't see all the flying dracthyr and fat kul'tiran males wearing a gaudy sailormoon outfit?
>>584224098i wouldn't know about most of that. i haven't touched wow in 10 years. it's cancer that i spent way too much time on back in the day. only returning to shoot the shit with boomer friends and watch NEETs having meltdowns about the most inconsequential shit imaginable like having SD models or whatever stupid shit hurts their asshole that day.
>2 defias masks in a row>on my priest
>>584224463
>>584224380>>584223835>>584222851Grown men should not be playing female characters
>>584224195>The hope behind Classic+ was Classic but with challenging contentLmao. Retail andies are so embarrassing.
>>584224280pet damage scales with gear so its really goodnew pet skills are broken op and need to be nerfedracials will be changed, weapon racials might be removedshadowmeld only drops your threat in combat (makes attacks miss in pvp)
When are they nerfing holy shock? It's at the same tier as penance and deals far more damage to the point a shockadin is top tier dps
I can't decide if I'm going to play a human or undead warlock first. Has forever done anything to the starting zones of the two factions that could help me decide?
>>584220010>come onlineMeme shit also you're lying because the devs have specifically said that casters will be worse early game but better endgame than actual classic
>>584224726no
>>584224726Undead starting zone got a ton of new stuff because it sucked balls.Elwynn is still superior in every way but not that much new stuff.
>>584224575Grown men shouldn't be playing WoW
>make dungeons far harder so you can't aoe them with solo mages>boost their exp a lotthere you go, I literally fixed the problem it's that easy, no more boosting and fun engaging social gameplay for the playersand yet feceszzard the shittiest company in the world can't see it
>>584224575I know this might shock you, but I don't personally identify with the pixels on my screen. They are not a projection of myself. I do not think I am a woman because I am playing one in a video game. I make both male and female characters all the time. Not everyone has your level of mental illness.
>>584224575Why? Does it make your dick hard?
>>584224863>>make dungeons far harder so you can't aoe them with solo magesclassic andies wont like this
reminder to have fun :)
>>584224863Stop trying, boostnigger. Instances are perfect right now. One and Done.
>>584225007>>584224935
>>584224726Undead warlock is like undead rogue. Its amazing. The issue is that classic/vanilla horde was just a bunch of assholes having funModern horde is a bunch of protesting liberal tranny fans and furries.
>>584224098>has kids>takes time off work to hit gladiator in retail wowyou're a massive faggot anon
in your opinion what models actually got an upgrade with HD rather than go down in "sovl"?for me, its female human, female orc and female elves (not night elves)any others im missing?
>>584224863Just add CC for the groups so that if you don't CC the CC mobs your healer gets CCd and tank dies
Mage sissies can't handle my Holy gock
>>584224863>"If a Channel spell is cast by target with highest threat, self-cleanse movement reduction and become Immune to movement reduction for 3 seconds.
>>584224908trannies in shambles right now
>>584224908based
"Retail" means "everything from WotLK onwards".So when people say "it's more retail than vanilla" they are right. Wowfo is definitely closer to Wrath than to vanilla.
Does the beta have pvp ranks?
>>584224098I played the same toon for 10 years. It was quite easy to just let him rest because Retail stopped being the game for me.He'll be waiting there, never to be played again.
>>584225276Anyone bringing up retail as an argument is trolling
>>584213248it's very funny to me this guy somehow reached critical mass of viewers just because his dad who works at blizzard got him some tertiary job at blizzard. Now his entire personality is "ex-blizzard employee".It comes across as if his entire viewerbase hates him and he hands out like 10 salty bans every single stream.My favorite things about him is his catch phrase "Why are you like this (chat)?" and his habbit of getting answers from chat and very clearly pretending they are were his idea, then later in retrospect calling it something along the lines of "we solved it as a community"i just love that guy
>>584225410This. Anyone who has played Retail in the last 10 years knows Forever is in no way Retail.
>>584225431Getting caught cheating almost every single time he does a puzzle game is really funny. His ego literally mind rapes himself. He just NEEDS to be seen as smart and correct no matter what.
What's the biggest problem with the beta so far?
>>584218412You are paying $60 for beta access which includes 30 days game time
>>584213709Common is the common Alliance language, it's too common to be given to a Horde race. May as well give gnomes Orcish because they're heckin smarterinos or something.
>>584225286No you can get honor points but there's no "season" for ranks
>>584225108no thoughts?
>>584224062I think Northrend should be like the wilderness zone in OSRA and the desert in Black Desert, a barren zone with open pvp with hostile mobs and its impossible to stay in for long period of time without large stocks of hot drinks (or frost resist gear). A raiding zone isnt a bad idea either. I think Icecrown Citadel should exist (but not the gay WotLK version) but its basically impossible to get to as you get constantly swarmed by super elite undead the closer you get to it.
>>584225603The absolute state of shamans
>>584225603layering or being forced to switch layers
>>584225108>>584225678i like tauren and undead but while playing and you're basically at the zoom height of a satellite you barely can tell the difference between sd and hd
reminder to be a nelf or else you won't get a sick frostsaber mount without grinding rep for months
>>584225730i hope this rhetoric about shamans being trash keeps upi cant wait to be a super special snowflake by going dwarf sham
>>584224062>>584225723Environmental effects would be sick. A stacking frost debuff that slowly kills you unless you take breaks by campfires or head back to an inn. And frost resistance helping. Also love the idea it needs to be group content. Like the content can't be soloed and needs you to group up together
>>584225108Male orc and dwarf were absolutely hideous in vanilla, those were improved.The others either got worse or stayed at the same level.
>>584225276Vanilla-Wrath is Classic. Everything else is modern or 'Retail'
>>584225649Can you do anything with the honor?
I hope they will introduce tauren paladins soon.
i wish shamans had cata totems where we could just drop em all at the same time.
>>584225863>want to make a female ne because their animations are sick and gear looks awesome on them>everyone is going to either erp with me or assume I'm a tranny
>>584225276No it's not. Wotlk is part of classic. Retail is legion onwards. This is not up for debate.
>>584226009they do have that in forever
>>584225723Shouldn't you be working on your own server, Wall?
>>584225945youre telling me this is better
>>584226009bro...
>>584225903Problem with group content is that if you are a month late it's going to be a lot harder to find a group to do it, not to mention if you are a year late
>>584226079time to play shaman then
What's the chances they revamp elemental and enhance shaman before the release?
>>584225108>>584225678I think, generally, that horde models are an upgrade or sidegrade while alliance is more mixed with male and female dwarves being an upgrade, human male being a massive downgrade
>>584226127
>>584225903>or head back to an innThere would be no inn as it would be overrun with undead. At best there might be hideouts in caves.
>>584226104than this?i think i prefer the newer one
>>584226218revamp gamplay? unlikely.
>>584225627And Undead were Human literally just a few years ago. Give humans a language that isn't common and then give undead that language too.
>>584226104Is better in every conceivable way over>>584226263
>>584225108>>an upgrade with HD>for me, its female humanWhat the fuck is wrong with you? They look awful compared to the original models. All the cuteness they had was completely sucked out.
>>584226078>RDF is classic>Cata is classic>MoP is classic>WoD is classicWrath babies still haven't matured.
Shroud said that the tournament is gonna be awesome as fuck, say what you want about him but hes right
>>584226263how did they fuck up the eye highlights
KINO OF THE HIGHEST TIER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylqN3q04u2o
Bros I cant decide send help>Like the idea of Paladin and Priest>Know ill like the gameplay of Paladin more>Like that Paladin also has a tank spec>But theres going to be millions of Paladins and less Priests this time>Priests will probably be higher in demand unless you went Prot Paladin>Like buffing people and Paladin 1 hour blessings are bonkers>Someone in friend group is already going Paladin
>>584226248The bases in northrend that served as forward bases were sick. Just the entrance for the alliance or horde for the boat base and that's it.
>>584221461someone was falseflagging as Jahy recently but shes currently playing Monsters & Memories
>>584226449
>>584226104Human female HD > SDHuman male HD <<<<<<<<< SDGnome male and female HD <<< SDDwarven male HD <<<<< SDDwarven female HD > SDNight elf male HD and SD are both shittyNight elf female HD > SD, but its closeOrc male HD < SDOrc female HD = SDTauren male and female HD < SDTroll male and female HD > SDUndead male HD <<< SDUndead female HD > SD The definitive HD SD stats
>>584226104I like 40 triangle breasts and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>584226104>>584226263Yes. The HD model looks like shes substantially older, drug addicted, and hasnt slept for a month.
>>584226280Nothing crazy but elemental needs to drop lava burst and double dip on chain lightning
i still don't understand why they didn't give alliance skelves shaman. that would be the only real reason to give them elves that aren't bloodelves/high elves but they farted all over themselevs just like they farted on retail and classic and now forever. they can't stop farting and stinking everything up.
>>584225603retail sharding system or spellpower rework
>>584226449pick Priest
>>584226449Just level priest with your friends and paladin during off times. Its Forever(tm) so you can do it all.
>>584226379>RDF is classic??????>Cata is classic>MoP is classic>WoD is classicNope, that's all wow 2.0.
>>584226595Because you're going to pay the fat ugly bastard tax
>>584226530What an absolute show of disdain for fellow anons, using both > and <.
BLIZZARD! Give me dungeon spamming back. I love dungeon crawling, stop taking things I like away from me. Stop forcing me to play the way you want me to play and let me play the way I want to play. My dungeon spam doesn't affect anyone else, it only affects me, so quit dictating how I play.
is forever reddit?
You now remember mop classic
>>584226774If thats reddit then reddit me up
>>584226595shut up already about blueberry shamans
>>584226774holy shit that is awesome as fuck! blizzard won!
>>584226774I want to have sex with that Twilight Princess Cat form
>>584226774>catering to the furriesgrim.
>>584226905They're adding worgen eventually and they'll only have retail models
>>584226774EPIC x3*yiff in your way*^ This is what an actual druid would say.
It's funny when he really obviously respond to himself.
>>584222729There is no way this wasnt some joke...
SD is still HDtheres AAthe textures are higher qualitythis isnt classic at all
>>584226972Nope in classic Worgen are savage aliens from another world
How is warlock in world pvp?It's the one class I've never played in all these years. Was planning on hunter or druid but im eyeing warlock now as well.
>>584227180The Furry Legion
>>584227294Everyone hates you and its really fun
>>584226530deus ex HDTP mod lets you mix and match which models you want HD-ified and which you want SD. would be a cool addition to wowf at least for character models if nothing else
Probably just going to sell this on ebay for like $300. The beta has been extremely disappointing and I do not have any confidence in the development team after their podcasts and interviews.
>>584227294given the amount of fresh paladins unstable affliction will be funnier than ever
>>584226774>good suggestion coming from red*it mean its bad
>>584226530this anon speaks to my souli only play female characters anyway so HD was the immediate obvious answer for meyou forgot skelves, they're pure sex like retail
>>584227180>Nope in classicThis is forever and we're going to gilneas already confirmed :)
>>584227389>good suggestion
I'm liking the new boomer creating 2004 pvp content, I didn't play wow but this was a staple in lineage 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK9489gA9Fg
>>584227540What, you would unironically be fine with a torch hovering inside <animal>forms?
>>584227454
When is the gay tournament? I bet blizzard will actually send out opt-in keys after it
>>584227846You said this with the AION 2 release too...I trusted the plan Anon...
>>584227180What? No they're not, they're cursed slaves created by Arugal
>>584227690I would rather they focus resources on making the gameplay good before making minor graphical improvements for a section of the game that impacts less than 5% of players.>must be alliance>must be a druid>must have a torch>must use torch shapeshifted in duskwoodI completely out leveled duskwood before I could even quest there in the beta.
>>584227602>music is blasting>dude is just showing off his gear>pvp combat starts>music changes to smooth calm tuneamazing editing
>>584226078The great player exodus began with Cata and Pandaria accelerated it. Cataclysm is also where they began to completely wing the story as they went without any build-up or references from the RTS games. Retail is Cataclysm onwards. This is not up for debate.
>>584227997They're both. The worgen in Duskwood are creations of the Scythe of Elune/the Dark Riders.
>>584228017>muh resources >making the gameplay goodSolved issue, unless you are one of those retards who think some 3D guy working on a fucking torch is somehow bad for the balance team.
>>584228241Okay but they're still not aliens. They were humans cursed by the scythe of Elune
>>584226774
>>584226774>another alliance exclusive item with no horde counterpartzased
>>584227997>>584228241No both the nelf bitch and Arugal summoned them
>>584228017>he thinks every dev works on every part of the gameGo ask AI what a AAA dev team is like
they did poorfags dirty with this paid only beta
>>584226530>Dwarven male HD <<<<< SDWrong direction
>>584228539Count yourself lucky, I'm already burnt out and skipping release. Which is a good thing actually
>>584226774Does this mean druids can now display their weapons in cat/bear form? Will Tauren bears with Sulfuras in their mouths be seen Plainsrunning at their victims even in the darkness of night?
>>584228520>tell the writers, artists and mappers to make new zones>tell everyone else to fix the existing gamewow
>>584225276>>584225972>>584226078You guys are newfags.Vanilla is the original game. BC is BC. Wrath is wrath. I'm not sure when this "wrath is part of classic!" started, sounds like a wrathbaby thing. If you're referring to how the game feels, Vanilla/bc, wrath-mop are their own thing. Maybe even make mop standalone, but the game took a direct very significant shift overall starting with WoD. Not only with all the prune, class fantasy changes, but even how the game became railroad narrative with everything simpler and "rounder"
>>584228017Worrying levels of sovllessness. People like you are so jaded that when you any minor tweak or feature like that you shout about focusing on "real" parts, when it was in these minor things where sovl always resided.
>>584228665Wait I'm retarded. Yeah SD is over HD a lot. Agreed
>>584228054the first one was the best one so farhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OSYxWCBQWE
Holy shit warrior tanking is so much more fun than bear tanking.Even at low level you have more than 2 abilities to use.How is paladin tanking in comparison?
>>584228815Been plying WoW longer than you've been alive. Cata was when classic stopped existing. Vanilla, TBC, and Wrath have always been and will always be the classic version of the game.
>>584228881mind numbingly easyyou have buttons but there's no challenge at all
>>584228017It takes less than an evening for a single person to do that fix manually to all different possible transformations.
i've always played male characters but i'm thinking about breaking this rule for night elves just because the melee animations are so goofy
>>584228881>How is paladin tanking in comparison?Even bear tanking is virtuoso shit compared to paladin tanking.
>>584228881Even more dumb than tbc tank paladin because devs are retarded
>>584228881>walk to enemy>cast conc>judge if you lose threat>optionally hit holy strike on CD
>>584228815>Vanilla/bc, wrath-mopI would never lump Wrath with Cata and Mop. They feel entirely different. Wrath still "feels" like BC which feels like classic.
>>584228926I am 40 years old. You're just plain wrong.
>>584228985male nelf is the worst besides maybe femdwarf
>>584228978Pretty sure it's just a case of changing where on the model the torch attaches to so it should take no longer than 15 minutes
>>584229223On paper yes, but you always have to test.
>>584229162Are you sure you actually played the game or are you one of the faggots that played the 2019 classic release and then on? Wrath was a huge departure.
remove windfury from the game
>mop babies talking about what wrath was likelmao
>>584228191The only people that try to say otherwise started during the fall of WoW or worse, during the life support phase that came after
>>584229164Nope.
>found 5 tin ores>all bugged out/somebody else is looting this item
>>584229286Actually I just played from BC onwards. I'm not a real vanilla chad.
imagine not being a nov 2004 vet
I remember when in kindergarden people used to argue by bringing up their age, or the age of the people they heard their opinion fromcurious to hear the same shit herecurious
>>584229341wotlk was sitting in dalaran the gameno reason to go to any other zone other than wintergrasp it was already in the expansion mode where nothing really matters and you just waited for the next content dropplus they ruined the lich king as tbc ruined every other character from wc3if anythingtbc and wotlk should have their on category of shitting on everything
>>584228191>The great player exodus began with Cata and Pandaria accelerated it. Cataclysm is also where they began to completely wing the story as they went without any build-up or references from the RTS gamesThis is all true.>Retail is Cataclysm onwardsThis is oversimplifying. Cataclysm was the start of WoW 2.0 which ran from Cata to WoD. Legion was the start of WoW 3.0 which ran from Legion to SL. DF was the start of current modern WoW or WoW 4.0 if you will.They're different forms of retail but it really solidified with Legion onwards with new models, new animations, m+, heavily class redesigns etc that are all still used in midnight.
>>584229502how long ago was that, timmy?
>>584229561before your time muhammed
>>584229537Shattrath had the same problem. You left the city to do various daily quest hubs.
>>584229537>implying you didn't sit in a city of your choice at level cap in vanilla and tbc while waiting for new content
>>584228880>wsg portal on both faction is connected to the opposite sides of the same portal>ab portal is connected to a cave system in the same zone>av portal is deep in a cave system of a shared mountain>darkspear portal is connected to a tiny hut""the spirit of vanilla""
>flying was a mistake because it just was OK??!
>>584229537>plus they ruined the lich king as tbc ruined every other character from wc3>tbc and wotlk should have their on category of shitting on everythingTrvknvke. When wotlk released I gave up on any notion of warcraft 4 ever existing and just seeing them shit on every established character with these expansions was hurting my soul.
>>584229728you pve dungeon farmers just wouldnt get it
>>584229728It's never coming to Forever, anon. Of any hill to die on, this is the worst. Let it go
>>584229728Flying was a mistake because it trivialized the world. Hope this cleared things up for you.
Why is there 0 hype for bear? They actually get new buttons unlike warriors, seem really solid
>>584229728correct
>>584228881At 60Paladin tanking>consecrate every 8 seconds>holy shield every 10 seconds>holy strike every 10 seconds>judgement when needed>stand there and wait to be hitDruid tankingAoe>Demoralizing Shout>Swipe or Berserk + Primal Bite while tabbing targets>Occasionally toss in a MaulSingle target>Demoralizing Shout + Faerie Fire>5 stacks of Lacerate>Power Bite and Maul the rest of your rageWarrior TankingAoe>Demoralizing Shout>Thunderclap on cooldown>Tab and Shield Slam / Revenge / Heroic Strike / Sunder Armor / Rend as filler to get additional threatSingle Target>Demoralizing Shout>5 stacks Sunder Armor>Revenge and Shield Block on cooldown>Shield Slam on cooldown>Fill the gaps with Heroic Strike, and RendWarrior and druid feel great, you're actively generating threat. Paladin is press 3 buttons on CD and let the game play itself.
>>584229738kinda funny how shadowlands is shit on for the story yet tbc and wotlk probably fucked everything up just as bad>>584229728it was yeah wow kinda made it work but the game had to be designed with flying in mind which is a bad thing air swimming not goodmaybe add gliders or some shit, gw2 did mounts the best
>>584229728you really tried to keep than one in, huh, retoilet-kunMust have been hard for you
>>584225863The grind isn't bad if you go to Teldrassil at level 1. I forgot how much rep you actually get from doing all the quests while they aren't gray but it's a fair amount. If they add more Darnassus rep quests in forever it'll be even easier.
>>584229728It trivializes all the ground content because you can just drop on top of whatever mob you want to kill
>>584229884its literally just the tbc bear which was completely fine as a tank, nothing really to talk about
I can't wait to gank. God I love being a rogue.
are the new quests silly? if they are, im out of here
>equip a bunch of spell power on ret>SoC goes from 70% of weapon damage to 74%Is this new?I thought it never used to scale with spellpower
>>584229656Even hub city aside, the entire Outland area had a weird cartoony feel to it that I never liked. Getting greens right out of the gate that were nearly as capable as the gear I'd been grinding for months felt awful as well. I never even made it to 70 and never played Wrath lol.
much needed ele shaman changes this weeks beta patch, just you wait
>>584230286Most new quests are very in spirit. Some are of course complete misses.
>>584230152>faerie fire>root you>/fart /danceNow what daggerboy?
>>584230286they were all made by chatgpt
I can't wait to rape. God I love being an orc.
>>584230396I'm mainly going to be ganking clothcucks
>>584224935nta but yeah :3
>>584230152LOLname one class you can gank
>rolling Paladin on PvPGive it to me straight bros, how fucked am I?
What are the odds for an RP-PvP server and how dead will the RP server be if it isn't PvP? Need to ask before I waste my time there
>>584230487/flirt/dance
classes you would never play even when blizzard pays you for it?
>>584229728I love flying but it creates an entirely different game and if you don't design for it, it's a mistake to have
>>584230026>maybe add gliders or some shitthis would be a fun idea but there aren't enough high points in the game for this to be justified.
>>584230650Mage, Priest, Druid. These classes are exclusively for women.
>>584230650Mage, rogue
>>584230650Both pet classes.Shaman.
>>584230650Mage, Warrior, maybe druid.
>Jlor is still alive>Kael is still alive>Old gods are still active>Elemental lords are still the original quadro >Deathwang is still active>Xala'tath is still active within her blade>Black dragonflight still exists>Jaina is young again
>>584229738I always thought it was stupid that you fought wc3 protagonists in wow, even kel'thuzad, especially since they were suddenly 7-10 meters tall for gameplay reasons.
>>584230650i'll play anything given enough financial motivation, but i would never play healing spec willingly for free, no matter the class
>>584230650mage and warlock is beyond misery, i'd rather talk to my ex wife than play a second of those
>>584230650Pure casters. I hate the turret style gameplay
Is it just me or does it seem like the stigma from playing female characters in wow doesn't apply to female undead even though they're not an ugly race?
>>584230556>Bubble>Lay on hands (which has been buffed)>rotation buffsthey eatin good
>>584230851>JlorRetconned. Never coming back>KaelKino>Old godsKino>Elemental lordsKino>DeathwingRetconned. Never coming back>Xala'tathRetconned. Never coming back>Black dragonflightWe'll see>Jaina is young againtrue
>>584230650mage
>>584230956why did you split up with her?
>>584230851i pray we stay more grounded this time around, all this bullshit of gods and aliens just got completely out of hand because the writers are retarded
>there are numerous ways for players of all specs and roles to earn gold reliably in ForeverHmmm, so I CAN actually roll a healer and get some gold via dailies?
>>584231092she wanted to roll alliance on a pve server
I think Ny'alotha, The Waking City was a good raid
>>584228880>It's just a flash of light spam
im kinda over Forever ngl. Fresh Era when?
>>584230320>Getting greens right out of the gate that were nearly as capable as the gear I'd been grinding for months felt awful as well.My mage in T3 and such replaced basically nothing until 70. Naxx gear was strong. First stuff to get thrown away was stuff like neck for the one in SL.
>>584231415can't expect much from paladin players
>>584231336I think very few of the retail raids actually have been bad.
>>584231160You will be able to make gold with bgs so yes.
>>584231447Hopefully never another Fresh ever.
>>584230556if you see a priest or warlock, just run away, you can never win. actually, you can never win against any class, just bubble and HS
>>584231462I think Wrath replaced old gear much faster. By 76 in Zul'Drak it was all gone.
>>584231336Raszageth in VoI was a great boss, but I didn't like the extra mobs you have to fight when she goes up in the air.
>>584231647> just bubble and HSDoes this even work anymore? Bubble seems kind of short
Skilled Paladin is something to behold though. One of the most important members of any party. Just a shame how few of them around especially now that they got buffed hard.
>>584231462You have to understand he probably never completed an entire raid and the gear he’d spent months grinding for was all dungeon gear.
>>584231513retail dungeons and raids are pretty good, the problem is that the gameplay loop has you grind them so much, LFR, normal, heroic, mythic+, push keys............. I rather have 1 difficulty and be done with it after a while
Why are retoilets in this thread? Don't they have their own?
>>584226418Can't believe I watched this slop
I respect orc players.
>>584231586They're getting one in 2028. Hopefully it will be another Era server and not just another unnecessary perma-vanilla. Era servers should be vanilla->BC-Wrath then just stop progression
>actually rolling on a pvp serverWhy? Pve is simply better
>people are having a discussion better post anime and ask a stupid fucking question
>>584231803retoilets have fomo infested adhd brainsthey HAVE to participate in whatever is the "current hot thing", but also they just want everything to be dumbed down and full of so much "QoL" that anything outside of the hardest raids is almost fully automated, so they want the new hot thing to become just retoilet instead.
>>584231941>i cant compete so i ll cope sure buddy pve is so much better. you are a very good player
>>584231941>actually rolling on a pvp server>Why? Pve is simply better>t. shitter
can't wait to play orc and repeatedly rape olympus chuddies all day
>>584231941So I can engage in player versus player combat in the world
>holy paladins can gear 4 times faster than priestshow is this balanced at all?
>>584232020kek
>>584232071How so?
>oh you pvp? what game>....wow of warcraft
>>584232063I will play troll warlock and fear all of your mobs.
>>584232174>hat indoors
I like how Rockstarcucks have to advertise here because OOT and WoWF stole all their thunder kek
>>584232018>>584232020>>584232065"World pvp" is just ganking
>>584232174>ai alex
>>584231941I am rolling pvp because I will play for about a month or two at most.>rush to 60 on stealth class>go to low level zones>gank and camp people enjoying the experiencethat's the only gameplay left worth doing in WoW
>>584232174i honestly dont get this. why do you play wow for the pvp? like whats the reason? anything is better for pvp, just go play league or something, they brought classic league back.
>>584232174
>>584232298Don't over do it or you get banned for harassment
>>584232298
chadow priest is going to rape lvl 60 pvp so easily. Im glad people are sleeping on it
>>584232394How is it harassment? They consented by playing on a pvp server.
>>584232275getting shit on because you're shit at the game doesn't count as ganking
>>584232394lollmao! More likely to ban you for edgy name
>>584232394>whisper from GM>"uhm i see you've been corpse camping for a few hours, it would be really nice if you cou->No. It's a PvP server. They can log off or reroll on PvE>"o-oh okay but it's not very nic->Don't Care.
>roll on pve server>flag for pvp when you want to do world pvp>no gankingLiterally the best of both worlds
>>584231941I can't kill the cunt farming same mobs as I am in PVE and then proceed to get gangraped by locals because they lost a 1v1.
>>584232470Yes, that's exactly how I want the other players to feel.
>hear that orc and troll racials are getting nerfed>look and find nothing about thisWhere are people getting this upcoming change information?
Gamer here. If you dislike retail, this game isn't for you.Any classic andy who enjoys Forever but hates retail probably just hasn't played retail since Shadowlands or something. And since they'll never give retail another shot, they don't realize how similar the two actually are.
>>584232527>he thinks a gm would actually contact you before banning your ass
>>584232275It is. And there’s no better feeling than dunking on a ganker. But you wouldn’t know that, because you’re a shitter.
>>584232647last wow podcast with the devs
>>584232653game feels nothing like retail
>>584232549How do you kill the cunt farming the same mobs when he's the same faction as you?
>>584232647troll is like the least played race. blizz shouldnt be this short sighted.
>>584231540If it's constant gold it will be abused by bots to death
>>584227793Well the reason I didnt include the pay elves is cause they're only HDAs for the general HD over SD, here's the major thing, in video games, females are usually portrayed as pretty and a little athletic, while the males are strong, heroic and determined looking, for Horde, they should also be scary, and all of them could be a little handsome, but not anime'dWhat the 2014 Hd models did was to generally make the female models even prettier and more expressive/goofy, so they appeal to chicks, ans thus they didnt result in diverging from the original vision that much.However, for the Male models, they went super goofy, while losing the heroic/scary looking features(except for gnomes and some other intended goofy options) and made them look in a completely different vision.Thats why the male models are all but maybe 1, a complete dogshit and the females are alright - they just made the pretty girl races even prettier.
>>584232785Mak'Gora.
>>584232653Look at this fag hiding stuff like we actually care what his characters are named but it's actually to hide that he didn't even botted beta
>>584232817Fake, he's not fat enough on the thumbnail
>>584228017This probably took an intern like 5 minutes to fix anon.
>>584230851>Saurfang greets you every time you enter OGWe are returning home...
>>584232653They're basically the same game>tranny mogs>dailies and weeklies planned>cheevos and collections are the primary gameplay>terrible pvp balance so that entire game mode is dead>1-60 purely by questing, mob kills are an insignificant portion of the experience>vertical progressionSoon we'll have WoW tokens, and character boosts. There's basically no difference between the two games.
shaymon herehow did allyfags deal without windfury before forever/tbc?i can't imagine not having windfury totem. it's like i'm two dps instead of one.
>>584232647>orc and troll racials getting nerfed>meanwhile humans keep their stun break and %2 crit>night elves keep their 10% bonus crit for 15 seconds steroid
>>584232743>game feels nothing like retailRetail's philosophy is to give players a theme park experience. WoW Forever follows the same philosophy.>forced top DPS class>forced levelling journey>forced itemization>forced socializing (campfires)
>>584233034>>vertical progressionwhy do you keep saying thiswhen it do be untrue
>you have to melee as both holy paladin and resto druid for optimal mana efficiency fuck that Im out>>584232161because they can equip plate, mail, leather hand cloth healing items
>>584232817Damn he doesnt even have a neck anymore what happened
>>584232653Are you saying retail feels like WoW because I was playing HC until beta launched and Forever is very similar to the vanilla experience. Not exact, of course. More 2008 than 2006.
poozzard already killed forever with this shitshow of a beta that shows they have no vision for the game and will develop the game by listening to faggo streamers and reddit posts with a lot of upvotesthis game will have 2 months of fun tops and it'll be killing olympus sissies until they quit when roachman also quits about 60 days in
>>584233094They have openly stated that it will be vertical progression through the raid tiers.
this whole [first name] [last name] shit has been disastrous so far and will be even worse come live
>>584233094they said they already know they will need to statsquish
>>584233234no they didnt
>>584233093>forced top DPS classBrown>forced levelling journeyAlways has been>forced itemizationMore STR the better
>>584233126>shaman is the only healer who can just sit back and heal>even priest has to wand in between heals
>>584233302no they didnt
>>584233269Nope, it's sovl just like picrel, you wouldnt understand poopsocker
>>584233034You could just list factual things but you choose to blatantly lie.
>>584232018Compete in what? There is no ranked? You mean harassing people doing other things in game? Most people don't live in the game, they're doing things with limited playtime. "World PvP" is just attacking people and catching them off guard. If you want actual large scale world PvP you can already coordinate that on PvE servers anyways....I'm surprised they even rolled out PvP servers instead of just keeping WarMode. t. someone actually good at ranked pvp, with zero interest in ganking lowbies.
>>584233269It's objectively better.
>name my character John Aaaaa>receive all mail sent to all the other JohnsYep, that's Blizzard coding.
I was so exited to be holy paladin with powerful shockadni ret off spec but they changed the 1 SP for each point of int talent to 0,6 SP to each point of int. Removing the healing power form the ret talent was probably fair but I was hoping that I could dps dungeons or do BG's with Healer gear by just changing few pieces.Of course I´m bit biased towards pallies but IMO champion of the light talent could be 100% spell power and 20% of Healing power from intellect.
>>584233670didnt happen
>>584233093Theme park has always been a retarded way to describe any version of wow
>>584233461which one is a lie?
>>584225603chuds being allowed to roam freely
>>584224908so far gone in the tranny pipeline he can't even be honest with himself
>>584232018>>584232020I will be rolling on pvp but you guys are full of shit, with how populated it's gonna be, it's irrelevant how good you are.
>>584233379>not autoing the bosses ass with flametongue get some whacks in and work on the weapon skill
>>584233824I play female night elf so I can jack off to it. I also play Human Male because I am literally him.
>>584233705They changed it specifically to prevent what you want to do.
>>584233394>For instance, some of your Best-in-Slot (BiS) gear might come from a previous raid tier, and players could keep using those items for a considerably long time. That doesn't mean you'll wear them forever—they will eventually be replaced>Looking strictly at gear progression, it isn't entirely horizontal. When a new raid tier is introduced, there will be a degree of power escalation between tiers.>It's still too early to say whether there will be a 'soft reset' for gear progression. However, our intent is that everything a player does in the game should hold meaning. What a player experiences and the items they earn should all matter. While maintaining this 100% forever might be practically impossible.
>>584233946thx grok
>>584233705>Removing the healing power form the ret talent was probably fairIt never had healing power, it was a tooltip error only
At the same time, there is the much more unsettling opposite idea of the domination of my screen persona over my "real" self. Our social identity, the person we assume to be in our social intercourse, is already a "mask" that involves the repression of our inadmissible impulses.>But it is precisely in the conditions of "just playing" - when the rules regulating our "real life" exchanges are temporarily suspended - that we can permit ourselves to display these repressed attitudes.>Take the proverbial impotent shy person who, while participating in a cyberspace interactive game, adopts the identity of an irresistible seducer or sadistic murderer. It is all too simple to say that this identity is just an imaginary escape from real-life impotence. The point is rather that, since he knows that the cyberspace interactive game is "just a game," he can "show his true self" and do things he would never have done in real-life interactions. In the guise of a fiction, the truth about himself is articulated.>The fact that I perceive my virtual self-image as mere play thus allows me to suspend the usual hindrances which prevent me from realising my "dark half" in real life. My electronic id is given wing.
>>584234012it's from a wow forever blizzard interview
>>584233946>forever—you expect me to believe this without a source?
People here only enjoy Forever because Asmongold approves of it. If he hated the game, you'd all follow his lead and pretend you came to that opinion on your own.
>>584233824since when do you loot at your dolls/figurines behinds while playing? smells like false equivalency
>>584234117https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/26963/post-beta-wow-forever-what-is-the-development-direction
>>584224575How am I supposed to play a character I can't imagine myself having sex with? I'm sorry but I don't want to fuck a dwarf so I won't be playing shaman. Where is my plumb ass space goats blizzard?
>>584234154If he hated it he'd probably have a good reason to so I'd at least hear him out.
>>584216324This is a troon pretending not to be one.
>>584233824>everyone that has played Tomb Raider 1996 is trans because the character you control is a womanThis is how retarded you sound.
>>584234182>being this autisticit's a thin veneer of an excuse anon. the person saying it is a proto tranny
>>584234332I just didn't play tomb raider because I wasn't a faggot. Not sure why you were playing it lmao
as much as I try I can't see myself playing this for more than 2 months
>>584233946>maintaining this 100% forever might be practically impossibleStat squishes and early raid gear becoming irrelevant is what they mean. It's literally right there. No different than all your stuff becoming useless after an expansion or new raid tier.
>>584234332Action adventures don't give you a choice.RPGs give you the choice. You choose to play the role of a female.
>>584234154who
>>584234472Just in time for retail's new patch, what a coincidence!
>>584234091This is why I plan an Orc warrior btw.Truly in Wow I am finally free.
>>584230512ShamanPriest Warriorand generally any class piloted by bad players
>>584234075it actually did have healing power. They removed it because they found out in internal testing that deep ret-holy was actually the most powerful healing spec.This was mentioned in the second wow forever dev podcast... I think.
>>584234508You choose to play the game with the female character. It's the same thing.
>>584234508Makes no difference. Choose or not, you're playing a woman.
>>584234154Epstein told you to think that.
>>584231647he'll win against me, i'm terrible at pvp on my lock>death coil gets removed from some shit>try fear, gets interrupted>stunned, dead
>>584233474When you don't but gold, you go out into the world and farm resources to get gold. On a PvP server, you can defeat your opponents and make this resource farming process more efficient, while also having more fun.
>>584234568third pillar btw
>>584234154Yeah we love the mother burner here. Only reason we do anything is because of the family slayer.
>>584234332In Tomb Raider you're playing a preexisting character with a background. It's not a choice.In a RPG you're actively choosing to play as a female when you are a male. You're crossing a line in the sand that, as we've seen time and time again, leads to trooning out and eventual suicide.I'm trying to help you.
>>584232861yep you have a point, at the end of the day only gooner chads keep winning (and Blizz knows it), the sweaty neckberd paladin larpers are not enough to justify the costs of making entirely new male models
>>584234645You're wrong anon
>>584234474there will be giga powecreep. it was confirmed.
>>584226379wrath was the last part of classic, cata destroys the classic overworld, tbc and wrath are just additional islands
Imagine being afraid to pick what you want to play because you might be judged by a random user online on a website that is now 90% LLMs and where being insulted and called a fag is the norm rather than an exception.
I play female characters and im a man who enjoys sex with women
>>584233936That's lame, I actually really liked how you had to gear prot pallies in TBC. The fact that you had to stack spell power as a paladin made pallies feel unique.IMO that's how ret should work. Stack strength and spell power both as much you can. Strength boosts those white hits and spell power cranks up the holy damage from all your abilities
Not everyone who plays female characters will be trans.But all trans play do female characters.It isn't enough to convict, but it is enough to raise justified suspicion.
>>584234993Literally makes no difference. You're still playing a woman and you will tranny out because of it.I hope you enjoy your new gender, girlplayer.
the anti-tranny schizo is this general's worst and dumbest poster, he is also 100% mentally ill because he can't be funny while shitposting, only annoying
>>584234993If a male author writes a story that contains a female, is he a troon? He's putting himself in the shoes of that female when he decides how they behave, their motivations, etc. It is perfectly healthy to create and enjoy characters of a different gender.
Are caster classes really cooked due to the spell power changes?
>>584235237Holy shit if you didn't drop out of high school 15 years ago I would take a job there just to bully you.
Imagine how weak minded you'd have to be to avoid playing female characters in a video game because you're afraid it might somehow make you trans.
>>584235290just ignore him xister
>>584234993>looks at pixels in a game>that's literally me>I better go make a new tranny mod that reflects my personality or mood>creates an RP backstoryMental illness>looks at pixels in a game>yep that's a hitbox im controlling>doesn't think about it at all beyond thatNormal healthy individual
>failed fishing attempts net you nothingeven private servers solved this like 10 years ago
>>584235510Tranny coded post.
ALEXENSUAL WONHE FUCKING WON
>>584235551Your fishing isn't high enough to fish there, stupid bitch. Come back later or apply better lures.
>>584235310>If a male author writes a story that contains a female, is he a troon?No, because he is not self-inserting. In Anna Karenina, Tolstoy self-inserts as Levin, not Anna. In an RPG, especially an RPG where your character is making choices that reflect your real life values, you are self-inserting, if not at the start, then down the road. I will concede that it's possible for people who have, say, 20 years' experience in DnD wanting to play a female character for the variety of it. But that's a spice of life choice. There are lots of freaks in this general who exclusively play female characters. Like half the MoH roster.
>>584235170They want prot to be spell power.They want holy to be healing power.They want ret to be strength/agi.You are not allowed to play or gear outside of these parameters in retail -
>>584233474Having enemy players in the world makes it feel more alive. Without enemy player threats, the entire world is a simple and easily solvable algorithm. You know how every mob works and there is zero danger, ever.
>>584235510On the other hand, if playing a female character does make you come out as a tranny, you most likely already were that mythical "egg" they keep talking about. Playing that female character was the mistake that ruined your life.
>>584235657Thanks Tranny chatGPT. Now please just kill yourself like a good girl you are.
>>584235525You're right, a dudebro who just looks at his character and sees only a hitbox, or a coomer who just sees pixels that arose him, are fairly normal. But these are just low IQ composites. Any high IQ person will eventually want to enjoy the immersive element of an RPG>>584235290Rope freak
>>584235657oh look here you go again talking about tranniesand you say they don't live rent free in your head? last 2 weeks all i've seen you do is obsess over them
When we getting forever hc?
>>584235657>making choices that reflect your real life values????
playing a female doesnt make you trans but trannies only play female you guys got it the wrong way around because youre illiterate
>>584235936The lowest form of roleplaying. Instead of playing a character, you play them as yourself.
>>584235626how are the goddamn capital cities not the lowest level fishing area
>>584235932When the streamers get bored and the game feels solved. Maybe 4-6 months.
working on a wow forever playlist for launchthoughts
>>584235894RP servers are where all the faggotry starts.
>>584235740Sounds like a you problem. You can spin up any excuse you want, I'm not gonna open myself up to you harassing me when I'm gathering stuff in my free hour at night. If you want to fight me you can do it in a rated arena or battleground, as the game is not balanced around 1v1.
>>584236050Needs nu-metal
>>584236050Looks like all gay electronic elevator sounds. Absolutely girlNPC tier music, congratulations, you're mindless, life must be pure bliss
>>584236042They're second lowest. 50 and up.Lowest is starter zone.
>>584236137Let me camp you. I want to waste hours of your time. You should be forced to experience dying to me without having any possible hope of fighting back.
>>584235770Sure, but less than 1% of the population has autism severe enough that they can't distinguish a video game from real life.
>>584235936Yes, that's how 99% of people play RPGs. They might do a second playthrough as the evil variant afterwards.
>>584235932December
>>584235657What if I rotate between a few characters some being male and some female?
>>584236292you are mentally ill
>>584236050yeah i think you're missing Thunderdome II (2) CD1 (Judgement Day)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJaNflyhHg&list=PLGPL9MOa7QERYUbrmbPleZfPJ3oRZTBCL
>>584236301When are we getting the erppvp
>>584236224>>584236229don't worry the sonic syndicate stuff is on a separate list
What are you still doing on beta?Are you having fun?
>>584236414They aren't adding /rape for a few patches so there's no point for now
>>584236292Odd, I just play rpgs to be giga overpowered and kill everyone. I have never engaged with any rpg system applying my own personal values to them. I can't think of a single rpg where picking dialog option A or B even has an impact on the end outcome. They're all the same.
>>584236292more like 1% if even that
>>584236328Genderfluid
>>584236050Blow Me Away - Breaking Benjamin Remedy - Seether The Hell Song - Sum 41Faint - Linkin ParkExtreme Ways - Moby
>>584236050
>>584232301It's about using your rpg chatacter that you have invested time and effort into making more powerful agaimst that of another player. Assfaggots don't recapture thr same feel.
Doomers were right all along...
I can't stop laughing at slowcucks. Have fun missing end game while you enjoy your little journey.
Just check the retoilet thread, made 15 hours ago and with 300 posts. Now that's grim
>>584236575
i need a wowforever femboy streamer to spoil and fuck so fucking bad
>>584233824The correct answer is: one male self insert character as your main and female alts of all races as his harem.
>>584236713Have fun raid logging I guess?
>>584236050For me, it'shttps://youtube.com/watch?v=GO2hxaZz2Q8
>>584236713>reaches level 60 in record time and grinds all dungeons over 100 times before quitting due to burnout while the journey enjoyer is still having a blastSucks to be you
>>584236764because all the toilets are spamming this thread
>>584236460>What are you still doing on beta?Haha...yeah...the beta...that I'm in...so fun!
>>584233824i played with the action figures, and had spicegirls figures that stayed on the shelf like anime figures to look at
>>584236342Your parents will put your real name on your tombstone when you rope.>>584236471That's probably how a lot of people play really shallow RPGs like Elder Scrolls. Ones that involve lots of moral choices like NWN, BG and so on are 99% self-inserts>>584236489Nah
>>584235347Not really but they'll take longer to scale. Spriest and Ele Shaman are fucked tho.
>>584236764Retoilet is very much alive and well and that's why they're posting here and not there.
>>584236050Paramore - Misery BusinessAll American Rejects - Move AlongSum 41 - Hell SongRed Jumpsuit Apparatus - Face DownFall Out Boy - THNKS FR TH MMRS
>>584236267Playing video games is a "waste of time" no matter what. Playing in an interesting dynamic world where interesting and unexpected interactions can occur is not more of a waste of time than collecting flowers to play in a sterile safe environment.
>>584236498What if I'm a man with a biologial female wife and kid who has heterosexual sex with my wife regularly that has never even once considered having sex with men or wanting to be something other than what I am right now, but I sometimes make characters in WoW which are female, and other times male.
>>584236460Yea im having fun. Yesterday night we had a small raid party assaulting menethil harbor. Allies had to gather up 20 or 30 people before they could break through and crosd the bridge to get out of their town.
>>584237076Eww wtf why is your kid having heterosexual sex with your wife
>>584236771SOVL OVERLOAD
>>584237071Post name, layer, and cords. I want to give you some of those amazing interactions right now.
I wish there was like a melee priest meme spec. They almost hinted at it with mage.
>>584236962>Among veteran roleplayers, intentional, "1:1" self-inserting is generally rare and often heavily discouraged>The Newbie Tool: Veteran communities widely consider literal self-inserts to be a stepping stone or an introductory tool for beginners. It is easier for a new player to learn rules when they don't also have to juggle an unfamiliar psychological persona>The Veteran Backlash: Many long-time players actively dislike overt self-inserts. Veteran groups frequently cite "bleed" (when an in-character conflict feels like an out-of-character, personal attack) and the tendency for literal self-inserts to morph into flawless, un-killable "Mary Sues" or "wish-fulfillment" vehicles as major reasons to avoid them.tl;dr self-inserting is for noobs
>>584236575please post them especially drakedog
Is Remigration a chud guild or a tranny guild
HOLYDO NOT OPEN WOWHEAD
>>584237631those are all searchable on spotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Gbn7PJbf3PK5QtmSNMADR?si=075f1b88da5248e7
>>584236050Just jam every song from world of roguecraft and early vanilla pvp montages into playlist.
>>584236808Warcraft 3, Echtzeitstrategie, soviel Spaß hatt ich noch nie
>>584237769chud I think
>>584236962>tombstoneProbably just cremate not even have a service and move on lol
>>584237546everyone self inserts to some extent, its nearly impossible not to unless you have the hugely imaginative mind of a novelistsorry about your autism
>>584237769chud tranny guild
>>584236050>Pedalembased
wowhead is such a fucking mess
>>584237362I would if I was in the game, because I actually enjoy fighting other players.
>>584237769trannytroons trying to infiltrate the chudside
>>584237260>his mom never taught him how to have sexno wonder you're a 38 year old bald virgin playing WoW
Horde is full of fag guilds lmfao
>>584237963>hugely imaginative mind of a novelistIsn't that the opposite of autism?
Can I say the n word in Remigration? This is a deciding factor.
>>584238657yes. but you have not autism for not understanding that self-inserting is done by degrees and not binary "on or off" - hallmark of autism
Which class is the most chud
>>584238664Which word is that you nigger?
why is the alliance so weak? they dont have a single strong race in their faction.
>make political OP>It's a direct violation of the rules>people respond with criticism>comments all get banned and removed>OP stays up because it aligns with tranny mod's politicsHow does reddit have any users at all?
>>584239220dwarves are walking muscles.night elves are descended from trolls and are huge. especially the men.
>>584239268rules for thee not for me
>>584239268>How does reddit have any users at all?It's the containment place for leftoids and other mentally unwell people
>>584239268I want them all dead. Genuinely.
>>584239220What are you talking about? Alliance have beaten the Horde multiple times. Enslaved them. Threatened to dismantle them. Like it happens so often it's like a reoccurring complaint. It's not that Alliance lacks strong races. It literally that every single one mogs the Horde, who's entirely weak. Tauren jobbing to quilboar/centaur, Orc slaves being enslaved by demons and humans, troll Darkspear Jobbers and zombies who get victimized and need help because a bunch of scarlet farmers are well farming.
>>584238664yes
>>584239449You lost the cultural war , now go rope yourself fatfuck faggot
>>584239220WC3 NElves were pretty strong. They were orc-sized warriors that even Grom Hellscream called savage
Chuds wonTrannies lost
>>584239769Warcraft orcs were enslaved by humans. So not sure why you consider their opinion worthwhile.
>>584239686>20 players and no healers
>when you see an enchanter without +7stam to shield, +16hsp/6sp to bracers, all the neck enchants, and all the new weapon enchants
blizzard should unironically sue OTK for hosting an unsanctioned tournament. This thing has completely taken over the narrative and already influenced multiple bad changes because of how much it has polarized the community. Before the game has even had a chance to get off the ground, it's already been tainted with some of the most degenerate behavior seen as "not classic-like" we have seen since 2019. This tournament is literally against ToS and Blizz looks the other way on it cause it's run by influencers. You can go check the terms right now and see.
>>584239449Either they rope or their bloodline dies out because they're childless. This weird tranny progressive moment is a flash in the pan historically
>>584239987>implying blizzard didn't give them the prize pool money behind the scenes to promote the game which is why they are nerfing shit just for the tournament
>>584239987Why? Just ban the streamers and move on, imagine giving them any time of day beyond that lmao
>>584240198>>584240198>>584240198
mental illness
>>584240060Probably would have been cured by now if it was allowed to be study as a brain chemistry issue like it is. They put in the DSM V as NOT a mental illness so they can't study it as such.
>>584240060They multiply by grooming other peoples children into being trannies. That's why they get so mad when you tell them to stop grooming children or ban doing tranny shit to children
>>584239841Skyborne elves are still in the game and they will never be removed from WoW Forever , chuds are on suicide watch
>>584240291All chuds hate trannies, but not all tranny haters are chuds. It's like squares and rectangles. I have the politics of a 90s liberal and hate trannies and jews.
>>584236050no "Big Blue Dress" ?
make a non tranny thread please
>>584241651Did you even look at the image?
>>584236042That's why the capital fishing trainers have fishing vendors with bait for you.
>>584239656I can't think of a single time the Horde as actually won. Saying this as a Horde player. Maybe the second war with Doomhammer was the closest to an actual victory but still a loss. Idc after MoP, Garrosh was the last true Warchief and to me the Horde disbanded after that.
>>584227382there is no unstable affliction ?
Why do Classicfags take it as a personal insult when you remove their ability to spawnrape someone 40 levels below?They don't even sugarcoat it or anything, they straight up admit it's what they find fun and they screech if it gets removed.
>>584242782They should do more alliance vs horde events that are not necessarily pvp
>>584239656horde always gimped themselves, starting in WC2, lorelet. had nothing to do with the strength of the alliance.
>>584243397It's pretty funny.
>>584243397Raped mindset. They were spawncamped in SV and feel the need to inflict that pain on others so that they can "get theirs"There's no fixing these people really and that's why we cordon them off in PVP servers
