Zero Fucking Agency, edition>October Trading Post:https://www.wowhead.com/news/october-2026-trading-post-bilebound-urzul-mount-and-wizard-cat-383229Useful Linkshttps://www.wowhead.com/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/https://warcraft.wiki.gg/https://murlok.io/https://housing.wowdb.com/>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)>NA<GLOBOFOMO>>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>Old >>584301843
>patch day>from 1 day threads to 18 hour thread
You guys don't understand the vision.Got to kill everyone off before the great reset so that everyone is happy when they all come back.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-kithix-world-first-officially-killed-by-liquid-383400USA!USA!USA!
The writers need raises and layoff protections NOW
Apparently the story that Blizzard wanted to tell with Midnight was finding every single way possible to say fuck you to the Blood Elves.
>lost their fel magic edge>lost their aesthetics>lost their memorable NPCs>lost their spine>gained a soulless capital city revampWas it worth it blood elves
Liadrin died for the sins of the Quel'doreiIt was the only way the narrative could square the blood elves being good guys with their history as invasive colonists who persecuted the amani for generations.At last the healing can begin.
>>584384769The point is to completely ruin the setting so they can reboot it after TLT.
>>584384957blizzard really should just realize their potential as a porn business and stop trying to make video games
>Liadrin's death gets an in game engine cinematic>Orweyna gets a pre-rendered cinematic so you can look at Xal's feet some more OH NO NO NO NOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xs4efOGO4
>some faggot spent 3 weeks spamming about le reset reputations
>>584385187bfa was a unique experience, few understand
>Manjawadrin gets kirk'd>Housing wifey replaces her in the storyEverybody wins
This story is so fucking rushed. Alright, she's dead, and now what? Who gonna replace her? They should have introduce and build a new mommy paladin
>>584385398Arator.The Windrunner family will endure.
>>584385398>Who's gonna replace her.Arator. They've been insisting all expansion he's supposed to be a Horde rep. Congrats, he's now the only living relevant Horde Paladin.
>>584385398it will be a zandalari paladin taking over chud
>>584385398>Who gonna replace her?Why do we need a replacement?
>>584385539>Why do the Blood Knights need a new leader.
>>584385187>lil gup actually thinks those reputations are impressive
>>584385398It'll be Arator and they'll rename the Blood Knights to the Dawnguard and welcome paladins from all races into their ranks because the Dawnwell belongs to everyone now.
>Liadrin dies in 10s while lorthemar stands there watching>no attempt to heal her, I guess we suddenly cant heal things>xallytoes laughing confidently SFX in the background as her plan somehow all comes together despite failing every timedamn... exciting stuff.. hope they kill off another of the OGs next.. such.. emotional weight.. in this story...
>>584385173OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
>Horde have 1 character who runs around in zones this xpack>It's Liadrin>They give her a model>They give her a expansion cinematic showing her be completely out of character abandoning Lor'themar to cry for aid at the Sunwell>They give her two zones where she's playing cheerleader to an Amani Troll women and has zero actual story of her own>They proceed to kill her off.>Horde no longer has a notable Paladin character>Next patch is supposed to bring Horde's IOU Paladins anyway but that doesn't matter cause Night Elf needs to get it as wellHow did we get here?
>>584385627Yes, why do we need a random npc leading a random organization of npcs exactly?
everything about this fucking reeks of committee-room storytellingwasn't metzen supposed to be in charge of the writing room? did his ideas get voted down or something? what the fuck is going on
>>584386071we pretended women were equal.they ruin everything they are allowed a say in.
why are the author bios on wowhead longer than the fucking articles
>>584385398>Who gonna replace her?ENTER
She killed millions of Trolls and Draenei. She tortured a Naaru. She was, without exaggeration, a monster. And the only way for her to atone was to sacrifice herself. The story was well-written this time.
>>584386087metzen not at gamescom last year and blizzcon this year didn't tell you what everyone already can guess?
>>584385173Does anyone like this fucking character or the Haranir at all? Holy fuck I cannot imagine retconning so much racial lore to try to push your new Donut Steel Elftroll race and having it flop this fucking hard.
>>584386087Like much of the other devs with passion. Metzen has moved on to forever.
Dog in...
this literally murders my interest in the rest of the "saga" if this is the quality we can expect theres nothing to look forward to at all.I am so fucking sick of woman writing.
Loved blood elves in TBC, they were arrogant, malicious cunts and the perfect partners in crime with the forsaken. Then they turned them into this... hugbox thing.
>>584384494previous patch didn't move the needle either
And there's still blue boys in these threads who think Blizzard doesn't actively hate the Horde.
Next four months are going to be like torture...
>>584386440forever launches in 3 weeks.
>>584386403The Reckoning is at Hand
>>584386430what is the nelf wifey war?
>>584386430I need updated version of this with 37 hour thread in it
>>584386437>actively hate the Horde.>Horde expansions>Horde filler patches>Horde social hub>Horde revamped capitals>Horde main characters>Horde heroes save the world
They also sold a Hearthstone skin for 25 dollars of her Midnight design a month before killing her off.
>>584386563I stopped because most people were complaining or thought I was doomin' when really I am just interested in collecting the data>>584386558Nelf Wifey returned after a hiatus and there was a large amount of bickering about it.
>>584385187My shadowlands reputations all got reset when they did those. Huge pain in the ass.
>People complain that nobody dies>Finally someone dies>People still complainI'm really starting to sympathize with Blizz here.
For the low IQ tourists and lorelets here>Kithix may not visually look like it in this encounter but he is one of the biggest threats Azeroth has ever faced. >Tyr had to suicide explosion just to wound him enough to retreat. >I think this death sucks but her dying while shielding us from the unfettered might of Kithix is a pretty good death power scaling wise
Shills are getting annoyed.
She's not gone you retards.Liadrin is gonna be the leader of the undead paladins.
>>584387094The problem is nothing they do carries any weight. It's checklist bullshit.
>>584387094The complaint has always been nobody on the Alliance dies while Horde characters keep getting the axe.The last major Alliance death was Varian 10 years ago.Since Varian died Horde has lost far more notable characters. Meanwhile every time they tease a Alliance character will die, they don't die, they either just get better or retire.Ohnooooo Mekkatorque is gonna die! Oh look, they gave him an Ironman heart. He's better now.OHNOOOOOOOO TYRANDE IS GONNA EXPLODE BECAUSE OF HER NIG WARRIOR POWER-, Oh nevermind she's fine.NOOOOOO MALFUUUUURI- oh, he's fine.GEEEENN, DON'T DI- Oh you're just stepping down, alrightAIEEEEE KHADGAR, HOW COULD YOU DI-, oh, a wheelchair, okay.MAGNIIIIII, MY FRAUKIN HEROO, SACRIFICING YOUR LIFE FOR THE EAAAARTHEEEE-, Oh, he's fine.AIEEEEEEEE, TURALYON AND ALLERIAAAAAA NOOOOOO-, Oh, you guys in the worldcore? Cool, thanks for getting here first.
>>584386430>nelf wifey warI wasn't here for that, QRD?
Why does everything in this game have to be so fucking fast? I did 2 heroic dungeons and the entre time my teams kept complaining that I was tanking too slow. What's the rush? There was no timer. The same loot will drop either way.
>>584386430>graph stops before Blizzcon because even the guy tracking every single /wowg/ thread duration left for Forevergrim
Guys who cares if she dies they can just take a portal and visit Liadrin in the Shadowlands™ :)
>>584387398You forgot>NOOOOO, ANDUIN, DON'T BE CORREUPTED BY THE JAILER, YOU CAN'T DIEEEEE
>>584387398EXCUSE ME ALLIANCE LOST REZNIK THE GOBLIN
>>584385173>>584386057OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
liadrin is dead?wasnt she like a babystitter of that faggot elf? (arandor?)he probably going like corrupt and shit next patch
>>584387686He was just too silent for anyone to notice.
As if we needed more reason to dislike Arator.Killing off one of the oldest and best like representative characters to make way for angsty half breed fujo bait.He was trained by fucking humans. He's not a fucking Blood Knight.BOTH of his parents are alliance characters he grew up in stormwind, when we first meet him in wow its in HONOR HOLD.He is NOT A HORDE CHARACTERHe's not a blood elf in any sense, he's a half elf sired by a human and borne by a high elf.
why didn't they just revive her or use a soul stone or go dive into the afterlife to drag her back or literally how does anyone actually die in warcraft
>give her a sexo update with prominent canines even if no titty plate>kill herblizzard is worthless bros
>>584387521>>584387013
>she diedSo what? We are literally best friend forever with all the supreme leaders in Shadowlands. We can see her again, maybe chilling with Uther or Sylvanas.No big deal when you canonically tp there
You guys need to understand. Liadrin had to die so her corpse could become a vessel for Azeroth. Trust the plan
>>584387847blizzards writing room THROWS AWAY the high effort content of the rest of the company.OLD HAGS OUT
12.2 is going to be so retarded, I can already feel it
>>584387278Who gonna ress her?
https://xpoff.com/threads/wow-forever-free-trial-logo-datamined.103627/OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584388009yea like literally this one thing has obliterated my ability to care about the rest of the story.Its so retarded and flippant thtat theres no way anything that comes after is worth paying attention to.FIRE THE OLD WITCHES THEY ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH WOW
I've been playing the forever beta all month and coming back to retail is strange. Not sure people are going to go back and forth like this like how Blizz want. Especially if Retails story is going to feel like this.Silvermoon still looks like shite though
>>584388043OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>584388043Free Trial to 20 and with a HARD stance on bots would unironically save the game.Retail needs to make everything outside of the current expansion a free trial too.
>>584388043forever sissies....our response???
Doomjeets are calling this marvel slop and hordekeks are seething and dilating as usual but this was actually a fairly badass send off for the character.>Might be a lair boss but the dude is seriously almost titan-tier and could easily GAPE a prime designate like Odyn>Takes a Tirion level feat from one of the strongest paladins in the world just to put us on even footing with a freshly unsealed Kith'ix>Easily the mightest of the C'thraxxi and we got off LIGHT(heh) only losing one notable npc>TLDR is that the dude basically has rez sickness and if we hadn't stopped him, he would have probably destroyed Azeroth before Xal'atath could merge with it - wait did we just accidentally do her bidding? Again!?
>>584388043Watch it be better than Retail's trial too kek
I think the funniest part is all of this could've been avoided if they just stuck with Danusers original plan of >War Within base game>Harandar/Undermine>World Core>Now go into Northrend and fight the titansInstead they for some fucking reason decided we needed to detour to Ka'resh, to justify detouring to Quel'thalas, all for the sake of killing Liadrin off and ruining Blood Elf lore and Horde still doesn't get Amani despite using an Amani plot to justify killing Liadrin off.Cause that's all the changes from Danusers original plans have amounted to It's like this expansion's narrative was written by a cabal of High Elf fans
>>584388030M'uru.
>The shill copeOh dear oh dear
>>584388343if only 8 year old me playing WC3 knew this image is what warcraft would turn into
>>584388043>base version will be free to play all the way till max level but there are restrictions>you need to pay for expansions to unlock materials, items and other stuffOr they could go like XIV>after few expansions the first expansions will be free to play
>>584388454danuser did nothing wrong
https://www.wowhead.com/news/post-raid-campaign-cannot-be-completed-blizzard-investigating-383406Thanks, Ion
12.1 is a korthia tier abortion of a patch
https://www.wowhead.com/item=274934/blade-of-the-blood-knight-matriarch
>>584388618It's literally just Garrosh jumping at Mannoroth but with different characters.I thought you doomcels were supposed to worship the WoD trailer?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=274937/shield-of-the-blood-knight-matriarch
>>584388985no it isn't, faggot.
>>584388840>6.1 was a disaster>9.1 was a disaster>12.1 was a disaster
okay, now what
>>584389246wait for 12.1.7 and collect all the Talebound FOMO rewards since it's gonna be removed in 12.2.5 or whatever
So did Liadrin die of cringe? Like did a cannon ball into the swimming pool, nobody cares and just stays at the bottom of the pool.What metrics are they looking at that say anybody is happy with the story?
>Taurajo level horde chimpout in the comment section for the raid cutsceneI find this legitimately baffling.Did all the Sylvanus simps switch to Liadrin or something?
>>584389525You know that scene in Revenge of the Sith where Padme just dies of heartbreak because she needs to be out the picture for the originals?They fridged Liadrin like that but instead of heartbreak it was exhaustion
>>584387241Kithix was behind J'lor setting it all up from the shadows. Definitely not something made up for the patch by an intern.
>>5843891677.1, 8.1 and 10.1 were bad too. Only 11.1 was good.
>>584389584She's elf
I thought myth crest cap was removed this week? Is it next week?
>>584387241>Kithix Literal who filler boss lmao
>>584389909>11.1 was good because it was BfA cut out content from Goblin vs Gnome patch made by old devs
>>584389584>Character since TBC>Got featured in a few out of game shit like books>Frequently shows up on the Horde side, Wrath, WoD, Legion, BFA, Shadowlands>Shows up in a childrens week quest and you get to see the payoff of that one from TBC all the years later>Paladin Order Hall character that you had to fight in the DK Order Hall>Big push in Hearthstone as the 2nd Paladin character to ever get a skinLiadrin was always a popular character with the Horde side.
>>584389584>Kill off beloved character of the most popular player race flippantly and without reason after FINALLY showing said most popular race some story attention.>Whys everyone mad?
>putting a literal who questgiver from a starting zone released nearly two decades ago up on a pedestal, just so you can larp as the victim faction during a horde patch released in a horde expansion set in the middle of the hordesoul sagaLegitimate mental illness.
And servers are fucked again.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought the game was dead??????????Theres a queuealive game12.1.5 saved worlo. We are so back
>Liadrin dies before Vereesa of all characters.That's how you know MIDnight is being written by Alliance fans.
NOOOO THEY KILLED HE-MAN
>>58439042014 people online
>>584388840Gameplay-wise yeah.Story-wise it’s as bad as anything that’s ever existed. This patch is a nuclear-level catastrophe.
>>584390420>13cant be me
>>584387241Aspects would have low dif rekt himSethraliss beat that other ugly ass nigga solo too. Get the Mount Hyjal Wild Gods on his ass and they would win.
Still can't turn in Slumbering Swarm, thanks Blizz
>hue hue>you can only bonus roll once per boss per week>bonus roll>nothing happens>cant loot killHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAthis shit makes me not even want to play the fucking game mangod fucking damnit i cant take this shitDON'T PUT THIS GARBAGE IN THE FUCKING GAME IF YOU CAN'T GET YOUR SERVERS TO WORK CORRECTLY YOU WORTHLESS FUCKSNOW I HAVE TO BONUS ROLL THIS SHIT TWO MORE WEEKS IN A FUCKING ROWI HATE BLIZZARDI HATE BLIZZARD SO FUCKING MUCHIF YOU WORK THERE YOU SHOULD FUCKING KILL YORUSELVESWORTHLESS MOTHERFUCKERS
>Re-orphan the Orphanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rjw8bDcLdEOH NO NO NO NO
>>584390491>XIV people online
>>584389584retard
>>584388343odyn got neg-diffed by Vyranoth thoughbeit
>Run new labyrinth>Get to nemesis>Fall through floor the instant I walk through the door>Spawn at checkpoint>All NPCs gone>Birdman gone>No boss>Game won't let me leaveOkay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHw1UL0fMmAMeanwhile OG shits on wowo wawa with amazing story and sovl
>>584390715>this bitch was supposed to do something that made the bronze drakanoids want to kirk her back in tbcAmani mass shooting soon.
can't zone into the raidcan't leave the partywhy the fuck is it so hard for them to do anything righti just don't fucking get it man
>Gotten DC'd three times in the last 10 minutesIS this the work of Kithi'ix?!?
>try to play the new thing>servers freeze 10 minutes into my first runnice game blizzy
a shitload of servers are offlinejust so happens my mains are both on the same server thats also offlineI WAIT EIGHT FUCKING HOURS FOR YOU TO FIX YOUR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAMEIT DOESN'T FUCKING WORKAND MY FUCKING SERVER IS OFFLINE AGAINJESUS
>finish raid>watching dramatic cinematic ending>get disconnectedBRAVO
AoF and RLP are too easy now.
>>584388043now that I think about it, can't a level 20 free trial solo classic raids and dungeons and do timewalking at this point, and have access up to dragonflight? I feel like that's a LOT of account-wide content for a free trial character to work through now... what can't they do???
>>584391086There's absolutely zero reason Blizzard can't have impactful moments like this. I'd argue they have the means to do them "better" with all their resources and insanely massive dev team but they just choose not to. Instead they speedrun their Excel storylines and they all just feel wasted.
>goyim are buying 400 dollars worth of wow tokens for a meme mountgrim
>dies from exhaustion
>>584391086Damn.Btw Is Vauthry their Xal'atath?
>Blood Elf waifu dies>Asians start DDOSing the servers as soon as they find out
>>584391086https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnu_M7fN43Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQunIilErNQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLbaWH07eAkWorlo really should stop trying.
>>584391610>11 years agofuck, they've had a decade to get on the same level
>>584391545>Btw Is Vauthry their Xal'atathNo that would be Emet Selch (worlo wishes).
>>584391482blizzard is trying to ape XIV without understanding that the reason why these scenes work is that you've been immersed in a single continuous storyline for 500 hours at that point, killing liadrin means nothing compared to ysayle's death for instance, because all liadrin has done has talk AT us and we have been around while SHE does things. we are not really a part of her story, nor is she really a part of ours. but OMG LOOK NAMED CHARACTER DEATH
>>584386503Left looks like a KKK guy reaching
Someone should inform Jeet-mama that the story team on retail wow is actively ruining her plays to turn World of Warcraft into a billion dollar IP.Also tell her to fire Ion and Holly while she's at it.
>>584391434Classic raids are level 30, you can't even zone in, all you can do as a free trial is TW dungeons, which nublizzard unlocked back in 2024 during the anniversary so you can grind 5000 badges to buy TW mounts
>>584387241For the actual low IQ tourists and lorelets here>blizzard already did kithix in BfA but halfway through development someone on the team realized lore wise kithix's body wasn't buried in zandalar>they literally just changed the name from kithix to mythrax and released it as is anyway>already blew their load on trying to make him seem threatening>already got taken care ofIt's the same shit with xal'atath and the jailer. You can't retread the same story and character beats and expect anyone to actually give a shit or consider the character to be a threat or imposing.
>>584391843NYPA but someone should have gotten the ball rolling on this when she was replying to Twitter posts left and right earlier in the year
Will Night Elf fans finally stop acting like Blizzard gave their race the worse writing in wow?
>>584387241>Kithix may not visually look like it in this encounter but he is one of the biggest threats Azeroth has ever faced.*in a book, and has never been mentioned by name ingame
>that feel when they replace Liadrin with her quirk chungus step-daughter
>>584392426*corsican
>>584387241And a bunch of jobbers walk in and kill him in 5 minutes
why don't we just nuke kithix with the heart of azeroth? well? how is this guy a threat when all of the old gods are confirmed dead
>>584392426>Implying they're not gonna replace her with Arator and make Salandria his off-screen cumdump
>all but one tab of the Midnight news on the Bnet app is about Forever
so what're the odds i rekill ulatek and am able to bonus roll it after mine got swiped before hand??
>raid already beatenis this really how wow is these days?back in my day, it took literal months before the first cthun kill. world first was an accomplishment. server first was an accomplishment.now you've beaten your boss in less than an hour and are going to whine and bitch about no content until the next patch
>>584392717It's a 1 boss raid and isn't overtuned like 12.0 and 12.1 raids, of course Liquit will kill it on mythic
>>584392717it's a 1 boss raid. Most raids these days take at least a week to clear on mythic by the best guilds. You can't certainly expect this to carry to Forever? People will be full clearing the raids within hours of them launching because they have no mechanics like Retail.
Can a fresh 90 do the labyrinth or do you gotta have some gear to get in and do it well enough for rewards that matter like the champion gear and shit? Debating between finishing out levelling a new Warrior and trying to do it immediately at 90 or going on a gear character to try the labyrinth for the first time.
>>584391610>>584391698>>584391086https://youtu.be/PyHVuxeKu48?t=180worlo could never.
>>584391086>>584391545insane how ugly that game lookseven by ps3 standards lolu know ya fucked up when not even dlss 5 can fix ur dogwater graphics kek
>>584393062Cope.
>>584388454It's so obvious what the intended trilogy layout was.>TWW>same base zones + harandar>undermine as a patch>worldcore vault as the last patch>kill xal'atath in the worldcore vault raid>lol haha even though she lost she actually won and tainted azeroth's world soul>world plummets into shadow and void invades>MIDNIGHT>silvermoon as staging ground + eversong + zul'aman>take the fight to space>voidstorm to gather allies>k'aresh as last patch where we kill dimensius and take care of the void finally>TLT>evil void essentially not an issue in the cosmos anymore>eliminating the void was the titan's goal so now is the time they return to azeroth to claim their prized world soul>we rebel against them for some reason to stop them
>>584392717>back in my day people sucked at the game and played on shit computers with dslGo to bed grandpa
So what bullshit are the going to conjure to make Northrend relevant again?
>>584389987it's next week, oct 20
>>584393258>Hmm. I want to kill Baine off next. Move us to Northrend so he can die for the Taunka. Justify a titan invasion or something.
So what's the verdict? Patch saved Worlo?
>>584393062do you even play wow?
>>584393258Total guess but it's probably going to be something like, we stop Xalatath from merging with the worldsoul, but she's done enough damage to the core that Azeroth herself can start breaking out of it. This attracts Odyn who comes smashing down to Northrend and parks Skyhold back on Ulduar while he tries to do damage control.
>>584391545Not really? While they have similar origins of being corrupted at a young age (Xally as a child and Vauthry literally in the womb), Xal'atath at least had agency and plotted against her makers while Vauthry was never anything more than the prop messiah he was created to be.
>>584393536god I'm bored even reading this. Why did they think this needed a whole trilogy to tell.
>>584393624
>>584393258>titans take the world soul to ulduar to repair/awaken it>hey remember that giant hole in the ground in the stormpeaks named the engine of ulduar? well ackshually it's the heart of a giant robot the titans activated to guard ulduar
>>584391772I played XIV when WoD shit the bed and the story was awful. 24h of back and forth talking to NPCs just for them to kill them all off to start a fresh story for the expansion. The only worse story I've seen is FFXV.
>>584393493worlo artstyle is so timeless that all it took was some fog and godrays to make forever look like a modern day releasecope
>>584393774Because they looked at FFXIV and thought that WoW could do that, only it can't do that, because we know too much about this setting. XIV was pretty much a blank slate that they were able to build up. WoW just gets retcons.Also XIV is barely a game, you walk from one cutscene to another.
>>584393624>he thinks xally told the truth when grooming nexus kang
They'll kill Turalyon off in 12.2 so Alleria can have more vengeance.They didn't get married for a reason, because white women love tragic romance. Liadrin being killed off was just pre-work for that, because Blizzard knows they'll never get away with killing a Alliance character off by themselves like they do with Horde all the time, it must always be paired with Horde.Carine/MagniGarrosh/MaraadVol'jin/VarianGarrosh/Arthas as soul goopNow it'll be Liadrin/Turalyon
>>584393965>kill them all off to start a fresh story for the expansionwhat fucking game were you playing, lil bro? this never happened
>>584394043XIV's also wasn't a plan. It only came together in Stormblood/Shadowbringers really. Blizzard's first mistake was intentionally setting out to make a trilogy.Also FF writers are very good at tying old threads and characters together in new story beats which is something Blizzard often stumbles at when they try.
The verdict is in.MIDnight is FILLER confirmed.
>>584394178Probably meant how they nuked 1.0 and then released ARR. But during WoD era it XIV was well into Heavensward, I'm pretty sure.
>>584394001Nah something changed and everything looks like play-doh now, especially the world. I'm not smart enough to know what they did but they did something.
>>584394307Literally everybody knows that Midnight would just be 11.2 of a Worlosoul expansion if Metzen didn't split it up until 3
>>584394197Also this yeah. It's why I have approximately zero hope for the new arc they're doing. The Ascian story was literally lightning in a bottle and trying to recreate that intentionally is going to be impossible.
I cant take arator seriously because he sounds like sasuke.
Kinda unrelated but I've been thinking, why did Sylvanas start the undead mass production shit? I haven't played undead starter zone pre-cata. Couldn't they just do it like they do DKs?
14.0 is gonna need to have reveal cinematic involving every single Alliance leader getting executed at this rate to salvage the rep Blizzards given themselves.
don't worry guys, 2 new store mounts are here after the 1 last week.
>EU server down alreadyWhat the helly
>>584394307It would have made sense if they kept the original layout like i mentioned here >>584393103but since they decided to jumble it all around for seemingly no reason, midnight ends up being useless filler because we have to loop back into the intended end of TWW eventually, which is going to the core of the world and killing xal'atath which sets off the return of the titans for TLT.I really don't know why they rearranged stuff to make it schizophrenic. People blame metzen for this but i think there is a near zero chance metzen would have done this.
>>584394785Finally some fucking REAL content
she boughted?
>>584394307This might be the one person in the world I hope spontaneously combusts.
>Lor'themar became a Better Man.>>584382103>>584382287
I feel bad for the Blizzcon Liadrin cosplayer bros..
>>584394549No. They dont have a way to raise the dead, plus the moral implications of it which is talked about during the post cata intro. Its actually not a bad starting zone. They eventually used the valkyr but garrosh got mad or something, I forget after that. I think she was just worried her race would die out or something.
>>584394810this is what happens when you have a council of granny writers.
>The Decor collection limit has been raised by an additional 2.5k>Blueprint codes can be linked in chat>Blueprints can be reported
>>584394307Remember when shills said that Midnight will be Shadowbringer tier kino?
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1x5d0t0/the_labyrinth_broke_my_soul/ENTIRE PATCH IS A FLOP
>>584394481It's especially bleak as they're adamantly refusing to stop stapling the scions to the ongoing narrative leading to bloat and fatigue. The only silver lining is that at least their Xal'atath is a cute ginger who at least explains her motivations instead of just vagueposting menacingly for 3 years.
>>584395103>Blueprints can be reportedThe fuck? Who would do this?
>>584395318I felt the same, I was all ready to do the labyrinth and it let me do 3 stages and then forced me out. Just let me do the whole run!!!
>>584395103>Blueprint codes can be shared cross-region (except for China)what are they so afraid of?someone making mockery of mao?lmao
I liked the labyrinth Wish there was more to it but it was fun to full clear it once. Final boss was pretty easy. Finished it sub 1k.
>>584395428It's to stop people from hiding a little 'extra' somewhere in the blueprint I suppose
>>584394085turalyon and alleria already died bro
>>584395886anon I'm sorry to tell you this but they're back
>>584395759Did you get Lone Raider?
blizzard needs to pull the ripcord and bring back corruption gear
>>584395989Thats doing the whole thing without dying right? no I died to it twice I think.I didnt know what the wind mechanic was and didnt notice the safe zone on my first attempt. I think my second attempt I died from stacks because I was standing where the uhh whirling axes spawned.
>>584395989No.... the bear charge hitbox was bigger than I thought it would be ;_;
>>584396070that was retarded but fun
End of service.
Blizz just needs to find a way to combine Labyrinths with Brawler's Guild and you'd have a deep dungeon in wow.
>>584396382END OF RINE.
>>584396578ding dong bannu
>Liadrin was killed off in a one boss raid in a .5 patchlol retoilet
>>584396438that's just Torghast and everyone hated it
>take the boat from dragon isles to stormwind>load screen>see one single frame of my character, dead, under the world in hillsbrad foothills>instantly dc>log in alive at stormwind docksw-what
>>584396578this has popped in my head at least once a month for like a decade at this point.
Now that Liadrin is out of the way, new paladin leader will be either gay or trans
>>584396812Yeah, Arator.
>>584396812and hindu
>>584396693>>see one single frame of my character, dead, under the world in hillsbrad foothillsthat's coordinates 0,0 on the eastern kingdoms map. when the game is trying to load you into eastern kingdoms but something goes horribly wrong and it has no idea where the fuck to spit you out, it dumps you there: a floating boat under what used to be alterac mountainsthis happened most frequently during the opening of ahn'qiraj, whole raids trying to get to kalimdor were getting dumped onto the boat because of the servers shitting themselves
>>584396675Blizzard remembered the wrong type of people liked Liadrin.>>584396578Stanry Roo would have saved Midnight. He would have drawn the rine.
>story is worse than The Snore WithinWho the fuck is in the writer's room? People blame blue hair and pronouns for Dragonflight but this shit is Zionist propaganda to a Z
Forever's sales pitch: explore an epic fantasy world with hundreds of other players around you at onceRetail's sales pitch:
so liadrin literally died of cringe?holy fuck this is so ass that i fucking laughed
>>584397098That's fucking grim
Why did Liadrin just die of cringe though? Could they have not even half ass a cutscene instead of their abysmal wet shit in game cinematics?
>>584396812>Lor'themar lost LiadrinThalyssra will be next, Blizzard lefties make sure that horde males do not deserve anything and what would be more painful than lose the one you love the most.They will probably make Lor'themar kill himself after that and replace him, Thalyssra and Liadrin with Tyralyon, Arator and Alleria.
>>584397220No budget anon, no resources. You're asking too much from a game in maintenance mode
>>584397094>authority figurelmao he wishesit's always some loser middle manager saying that shit
>can't progress the invasion quest chain due to every layer being bugged out
>>584387816>fujobaitI'm a fujo who the fuck are they baiting him with? He's ugly we don't care? The real fujobait they accident'd was Wranduin and they've been desperately trying to kill it ever since
>>584394549this wasn't even an issue mentioned pre-cata.
>>584397220Blizzard seems to think that paladins die when they run out of light
>>584387816I can't suspend my disbelief about Arator's character. the dude is 40 years old but he acts 16
>>584397341Ebin...
people die so often in wow that they somehow made death unimpactfulbravo blizzard
>>584397385What's your opinion on them making Shaw and Flynn gay?
>>584397094Lmao this image is actually triggering me. I've been in situations like this too many times. It's a very primal kind of seethe and anger you feel when someone is dressing down a group of people but the dressing down only applies to select individuals.
>>584397541I literally felt nothing after that cutscene
>>584397631I felt contempt for blizzard. Does that count?
>>584397574They made Shaw and Flynn gay because one of Christie Golden's ball lickers on Twitter liked it and they forced in a pairing with no soul or chemisty that was immediately forgottenSouless and despicable
>>584397631>>584397701blizzard never develops characters long enough for deaths to feel impactful. the last time I felt anything when a character died was Garrosh, mostly because I thought it was bullshit but also because he was cool and his death mattered to me
>>584397541Man who cares.Zul'jan is chilling in de other side right now and Liadrin just popped up as a questgiver in Bastion or the Lightlands.
Metzen will fix it. Everyone knows he's not even involved with the worldsoul saga. 14.0 will be different.
>>584397887Other side of Azeroth let's goooo!
>>584397870Actually, can't we just visit Liadrin in the Shadowlands? Does it even matter that she's dead?
I remember in TWW when you guys used to say Midnight will fix it
....so how bad is it NAbros?
>>584397887>XIV will be different.
>>584397887retail is getting sold to a korean or chinese company after tltthey'll make it f2p but cram it full of premium p2w-adjacent shit like buying extra vault slots, catalyst charges or limited time crest drop multipliers.
>>584398275god I hope so imagine how fucking hard you'd be flexing on people with OG glad mounts and whatever raidtroons have to flex from 15+ years ago
>>584397887>Metzen will fix itAnon, it has been four years...
>chewsday>log in>run naxx on my 20 naxx slaves>get nothing>close game
>>584398196Invasionslop is slop as predictedThe main story has like 15 quests and several of them are brokenThe labyrinth is maybe the easiest piece of delve content they have ever released and has several major bugs preventing progression, including the nemesis boss's floor just not having collision
>>584396679ngl i enjoyed torghast
Me coming back to watch another horde character die
why are logs not workingevery kill i've done today returns a zero
>>584398418OG glad mounts, corrupted ashbringer, atiesh and scarab lord will be added as twitch drops for the last titan launch
I'm having a blast!
>>584398448yeah he fixed it, he made Forever instead lol
>>584398448Metzen will fix it. Metzen will fix it all...
>>584398696>classic with retail stuff slapped in
World of Metzencraft: The Last Metzen
>>584398868>retail with shit slapped onWorldsoul Saga aint much better nigga
>>584398550They should kill Ji Firepaw next.
Fuck this vibe coded slop BULLSHITI'm going to bed maybe hotfixes will come out tomorrow
It's time for another copy paste apology about doing better.
>chuds mad>wokes madThey really outdid themselves this time huh?
>>584399143Why are you trannoids mad?
eat my cum lol
>>584399143>Chaotic /unbothered/+/apolitical/ Chads keep winning Feels good
>do mega-delve >fall through the floor after 45 minutesepic, just simply epic
>>584399319Why do people even have opinions, it just ends up making them look cringe.
>tfw the "patch" is so mid you fall asleep halfway through the boss
Yeah retail is going to become a ghost town next month, probably even more than 9.1
Blizzard really took a look at how badly Dawntrail was received and said “Hold my Beer.”
Valeera got kindo'jan to 30% hp before he even did any mechanics
>>584399626>Overusing the light caused her to rapidly ageGrim.
>>584399779Blizzard has no idea how to make good content anymore, they just make it actually braindead easy for 99% of the playerbase and shit out gear like Halloween candy and then the 1% get raped
>>584399950Oh shit we're back in Wrath?
At the end of the day.What is the benefit of doing everything in your power to make an expansion solely designed to piss off the fanbase of your most played race?
>>584400254Ever since the players raped all those women at Blizzard for years, it has been the job of the writers to ensure we are punished for the sins and crimes we committed, stealing all that breast milk.
>>584393103This makes a lot of sense when you factor in how much the wow team overestimates their ability to deliver content, particularly in Cata and WoD. Now it just happened to also tank their big elaborate story.
>Mythic raiders bitching because the raids are designed to world first raiders>Mythic plusers pissed because loot is fucking dog shit terrible>Casuals pissed because the content is dog water>PVPers are deadMaybe I am exagerating but I don't remember anything feeling this bad in Shadowlands.
>>584400445It's a fool me once etc. situation. At least the game wasn't actively falling apart with bugs in SL.
>>584394178>>584394346Right before Heavensward everyone dies.
Got deathless on my alt, healer player with dps valeera was enough damage to first cycle Kindo'jan.
>>584400254Drive them towards an alternative that you control, of course.
>>584400445It’s because while SL was a shit expansion. Its shitty nature was mostly overplayed because everyone was pissed off about the rape drama at blizz at the time.The world soul saga was promised to be this big amazing trilogy to make Warcraft feel like Warcraft again with Metzen at the helm. And all it’s felt like so far is half arsed rushed content and over promises.Then just a few weeks ago we found out the devs were actually focused on making Classic+ while Midnight ships once of of buggiest patches in the game.The player base feels conned at this point and rightfully so, everyone’s time is being wasted on a plot these devs can’t even be arsed to put effort in and systems locked in until at the very least 14.0
>>584400728I fell though the floor once toward the end and I dont want to run through the whole thing again.
Can't wait for end of service for this cringe piece of shit
>>584400654heavensward's story is a direct continuation of what happened at the end of ARR, did you not keep playing it after making the assumption that they original cast was all dead to make way for a completely isolated expansion story or something?
>>584401068You probably want to do it once or twice on alts to get the gloves enchant.
Cynicism is not a cool personality trait
>>584384957I thought the Dead Scar was unfixable
>>584400982>Its shitty nature was mostly overplayedtime has dulled your memories, but I remember
Didn't think it was going to be that easy, went in blind, I did die like twice from getting pushed off, but it was so fast I didn't think this is really a nemesis boss after the simon says guy was so annoying
>>584400982>>584401653It was tedious if you were a casual who could successfully ignore gear minmaxing.for anyone "serious" though it was AWFUL cus of the amount of tedious farming you had to do to get the "correct" items and sockets and shit. and it wasnt even like mindless MMO grinding it was a whole ton of very specific targeted reps and drops and rares and on and on that you had to do simply to be able to participate in endgame.That bullshit that was shadowlands endgame gearing is the thing that finally divorced me from endgame pve.I just could not be bothered to do all that homework to then do a raid/dungeon and get no loot. I have not given a shit about endgame pve since.
>>584400982>Its shitty nature was mostly overplayedlol
Shadowlands was a top 3 expansion. Everyone was tricked by streamers into hating it.
>>584402287huhu I will be le contrarianI am so le clever hue
Hogs
>>584402287*Shadowlands was a top 3 worst expansion
>>584402287Yeah, top 3 in the worst expansions ever made ranking
>>584402287You should be forced to do Korthia dailies for a month, scaled up to max level, for saying this shit.
>Shadowlands was good
>entire patch content from easiest to hardest cleared in under 24 hoursholy slop, just shut down retail already
>>584402287>Castle Nath>Zones and factions that actually felt distinct>The Maw, while a drag, made you appreciate your world mobility abilities for the first time in years>Frog mount parades in OribosWe didn't know how good we had it...
>>584402640This is test for Forever.
retail needs to pull the ripcord and add SKAVEN
Shadowlands was shitty but I think the complaints about covenants were overplayed.
>>584402642You're gonna have to try a lot harder man
pull the ripcord and add some stupid blood elf recolor
>>584402759forevers biggest detractors are unironic #nochanges supporters who just want another fresh so they can get to 60 and clear MC in 12 hoursthese same people will probably shit piss and cry when they have to do anything but tank and spank with 30 woyers as its obvious the "revamped raid" is MC
Pull me like a ripcordRun me like a racehorse
>bonus rolled guillotine and nothing on ulatek because the servers were shitting themselves>took hands out of vault close enough to bis + shitty trinket i won't use from kithixwell what a shitty week, not helped by the fact blizzard set one of my characters back a week out of sheer incompetence literally might as well just log out till next weekblizzard is awful i sent them a bug report today and told them all they should have to eat out of garbage cans for their ineptitude
>>584402967The ripcord is another collector's bounty.No surer way to regain the good standing of the wowbuck.
>>584391086We're being so raped by ziv
We waited this patch for months and it's already cleared
>spirit healers keep bringing us the adventurers backwhy don't they just bring back Liadrin
>>584401370I think you can buy the glove enchants from the curious coin vendor on alts after you unlock them once
>>584394307Troonsisters... even the arch-homo has turned on the worlo...
>>584403454outside of the BFA cinematic is resurection even ever referenced or used?it is 100% a gameplay contrivance in lore
>tfw when Hamburger Helper is working at Blizzard now for D5
>>584403746The BC animatic maybe with the priest and the orc? Though that could just be healingThe Lich King killing everybody at the climax of the fight and Tirion ressurecting everyone
>>584403746illidan actually directly references it in the demon hunter starting zone quests where you sacrifice yourself. he talks about, how like himself, you have an immortal soul and can come back to life, which by implication means that most people of azeroth do not and cannot be ressurected.so its sort of like ff14 warrior of light or diablo 3 nephilim. your guy isnt just some schmuck, you are literally a chosen one with a special soul, and thats why players can ressurect while most game npc characters cant
>>584399626>diesofcringe.png
Pull the ripcord and let us marry Valeera
>stealth nerf Valeera Just why...? It's like they actively try to find all ways to make people not want to play the game.
>>584403746Pretty sure Anduin resurrected people outside of the BFA cinematic but I might be retarded.
>>584403746Anduin rezzed Khadga, from the waist up.
>>584404176They didn't.
>>584404332Yes, they did. She gets deleted as DPS now.
We are at the point where basic collision detection doesn't work in new content and they don't bother fixing it before release.
>>584404519Considering I was just here and she deleted this nigga, no.
would it be fair to make +15s drop myth gear but only 1 piece instead of 2?
>>584404708It must be a scaling bug then. Try a t11 with her as DPS, I promise you she will fall over even at 80.
there is no portalhow am I supposed to leave
>>584405394I'd personally be more interested for a reason why 2-9 to exist.
I don't give a shit about the dead elf but I got a kino sword and shield
>>584405472Are you level 10+?Because for some reason they really want you to be able to do the whole start zone story before portals appear on Teldrassil and Azuremyst.The Stormwind portal inside the Exodar next to the mage trainers should be there regardless though.
>>584405682I want a nelfwife
>>584401370>>584403543qrd?what does this glove enchant do???
>>584406021damage procs while running delves
Anyone killed the new delve boss?
>>584406486Many have, he's retardedly easy.
heh, easy
>>584406486Valeera gets him to 20-30% before he does anything.
>>584406582>>584406602Oh well I'll do it tomorrow
>>584406486mislaid curio buffs work on him for some reason, so you got people running in with 100% bonus versatility
>>584406602Achievement makes it sound like Horrific visions...
>>584406665Also full power Valeera.
>>584406665What buffz?
like honestly...i just cant get over how blizzard fucked me out of my bonus rolllike theres no wayhow the fuck did they think this was acceptablewhy could they not just code it to only allow one bonus roll on any given boss/difficulty instead of the one time you are not loot lockedi'm so fucking madblizzard fucked me out of a whole ass item lvl and my cantrip neck this week
yo likelady liadrin is deadbut i just turned in my arcantina weekly to herwtf man
>>584406902So you fucked yourself
>>584406902retarded tranime poster
>>584407030how do you figure thati meani DID fuck myself like 4 weeks ago by rolling uh instead of blood and getting the fucking font trinketbut blizzard LITERALLY fucked ME this weeki clicked the bonus roll when we killed ulatekand the icon just spun and i couldn't loot the corpseso i reloadedand afterwards i couldn't use my bonus rolli even tried rekilling the boss like a cuck
>>584406804those little blue pouches that you can pick up while running delves
>>584407250fuck u bitch
>got the dogshit trinket from ula'tek and kith'ixAt least everything left on the loot table is good... haha...
uhhhguys...wtf
At this rate the famed vanquisher total is gonna be the closet thing we've had to a subscription count in years.
>>584407512>he didn't boughted at the bottom
>kill room boss>doesn't count, can't progresswelp, guess there's no reason to keep playing this shit game.
>>584407439if you mean font, you might want to sim it yourself. I recall there being a bug with it where it wasnt simmed earlier so a lot of bis lists have it lower than it should be.
>>584407745Don't worry, 12.1.7 will be different
>finished the entire labyrinth>get to boss>floor bugs out>can't finish it>blizz expects me to do that shit again>it wasn't even fun>this is the big content for the patch
>>584407940imagine being so stupid you cant even walk on the floor lmao.
>>584407523You underestimate the casual player's extreme aversion to challenging themselves. It does not matter how piss easy a t11 delve or nightmare hunt is. All they need to know is that it is the 'hardest' setting and thus not for them.
is it bad that I like wowg characters more than the ingame characters?
We're inching closer and closer to the promised patch that will straight up delete like 10% of all existing characters and they'll have no way to fix or reverse it.
>>584408252
>maintancence till 11am on euwtf i want to fucking game
>>584408070idea guy
>>584408252>>584408393put some pants on you gross bitch
>>584408424the new content doesn't even work EUbro, go do something else
>>584408070Chris Metzen
>>584408461It's a boy and he has a HUGE uncut hog.
I'm just so... blown away by the writing.I kind of want a full two hour long sit down interview with every writer and designer and such, just so that all of their faces can be seen as they go and explain their mentality when creating every stage of the world soul saga. I NEED to know what was going through their minds as they collectively agreed on stuff like this patch. I want to see their faces while they explain it, to see if they can really poker face their way through it with a smile, like they genuinely thought it was a great idea, or if they actively are deliberately sabotaging.More importantly, I want to hear them say, specifically, what they thought, hoped and expected the players and fans to react with upon moments like this filler patch.How up their own asses are they for this genre defining masterpiece of writing.These are the same people writing Forever.And people really think things will be different over there.They already injected elements of Peacecraft into it, and that fucking version hasn't fully released yet.
>retail lost the redditorsit's over
Stop dooming.12.2New Arator content.New Jimothy content.More niffen.Retail has this in the bag. Patriots are in control.
>>584403673He's mad there's not enough fags and queers to write lengthy articles about.
>quit some time ago>looking up WoW stuff again because of the Forever buzz >the more I look into it the more I remember how they kept fucking up at every opportunity>cherry on top >remember I'm brazilian >apparently they raised the price of the subscription again recently when it was already expensive I know, I know what you're going to say. le good riddance thirdworlder.but man this sucks. there is no game like wow, nothing quite compares. but Blizzard has fucked up so much, the expensive subscription is the least of my concerns
>>584408675Iridi is a cute girl
>>584408893Unironically it is a good litmus test for how an expansion is being received because Reddit always favors positivity, so when shit stinks long enough they get very negative very fast. You could tell the tides were shifting with SL because by January 2021 people were getting vocal in their criticism of the expansion and all the problems, then that ballooned and by the 9.1 reveal in April you can still go see the preview posts for PTR and everyone is just shitting on it right away. This patch just launched and almost all the top posts are just shitting on the writing, telling people not to even bother with the labyrinth, etc. we are hitting full summer 2021 doom mode.
>>584408393that poor draebabe is about to get milked HARD
>>584409117They've got to get someone stealing breast milk again and then they can pin all the bad shit on him.I remember Tali crawling back to retail for Dragonflight and his response was always "well they fired all the bad people now the game can be good again"
what should I do when I get home?keys from vault then straight to labia?
>>584408893https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1x5c31p/i_genuinely_dont_understand_whats_going_on_with/I looked it up to see what people responded with and it's just person after person making eloquently 4 paragraph comments talking about how dog shit the game is now. WTF is goin on
>>584408887you'd get a bunch of nepo hires explaining how they're just following orders
shit they did nerfed valeera
>>584408887Remember when players were complaining about the fruit painting thing asking who it was for and the devs chimed in to say, and I quote, it was for them?It would be some prime entertainment to have the devs give an interview and explain their thought process.
>>584409498people are reporting it as a bug. she's dying in regular delves, even low level delves, in 1 or 2 hits. it seems like a bug, not that they really nerfed her THAT hard
>>584409673they toggled the fake valeera damage back to real
just got home from work bros, i sure hope this patch isnt bugged to fuck like every other patch this expansion!
>>584409673mine is n ot dying just doing 200k dps which is not normal
>>584409791her Killing Spree isn't activating correctly
>>584384494fpbp
>>584385398>>584385347kek brilliant
>>584409498She was always bad though
>>584409319They need another false flag to pretend the game is good if we just get rid of the saboteurs, grim
how do you fight the delve boss? the doors are clods after finishing 5 areas
>>584409663That is exactly my point.This filler patch especially just feels like a very spiteful response to the criticisms of how Liadrin looked in the cinematic.Like some woman, or 'woman', that checks off every box on the usual suspect in bad modern writing on the design team was so upset and jealous that people criticised them for trying to make her look like a 'natural' woman instead of the idealised fantasy beautiful race they're meant to be, and just had a mental break to make sure she fucking dies so the fanbase doesn't have her anymore.I just legitimately cannot fathom any other reason anyone at Blizz would think it a good idea. In a FILLER patch of all places!
>>584409319I remember when the that shit was popping off and Taliesin went on a huge rant about how much he hates chris metzen because he assumed metzen was part of it. Of course when Metzen comes back to Blizz he starts sucking him off again
Have the wowgee archeologists discovered any secrets in the labyrinth yet?Hidden areas or bosses? Shit you need a specific pet, toy or title to trigger? Maybe a special interaction if you have an item from the Zskera Vaults in your inventory?
arcantina weekly is UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>584410209does anyone have that tweet with his arm rising
>>584410098As others have pointed out, Turalyon will probably die in 12.2 and Liadrin getting got is meant to soften the blow.
Shouldn't have ranked story as lowest importance in all those player surveys we sent out, chuddie
>>584410664Turalyon is alliance aligned so he gets to live
>>584410664>character people give a shit about dies>somehow softens blow of character that's done nothing but get worse since he returned in legionYeah... woo...
>LIGHT, GRANT US YOUR BLESSING AND DO NOT LET THESE AGENTS OF DEATH TAKE TIRION FROM HIS RESTING PLACE>DEAR LIGHT, THIS IS OUR DARKEST HOUR, DELIVERTH UNTO US A BOON AND SUMMON THE ARMY OF LIGHT TO OUR CAUSE >OH BOUNTIFUL LIGHT, A BIG BUG IS TRYING TO SNACK ON MY TROLL GIRLFRIEND'S GASH BEFORE I CAN, INVEST UPON ME YOUR BOUNDLESS POWERAnd that's where the Naaru got sick and tired of granting her wishes
>>584410408lol
>>584410837Every single faggot who's said "it's an MMO who cares about the story" is guilty for the current state of WoW
>>584402642but the systems ooooh the systems....
>>584410993Actually it's the reddit queers obsessed with marvelslop and ffxiv who really really NEED to have COOL ingame cutscenes.
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1307646/twin-wicked-daggers-of-the-remorseless-assassin#comments>Twin Wicked Daggers of the Remorseless Assassin>Instant>Valeera would have wanted you to keep them.??
>>584410979Are we even sure they're bugs? Maybe if enough of us trigger 'bugs' in the right way the door will open to an 11th chamber.Somebody dm the secret finding discord.
they shouldn't have killed my wifei'll never forgive them for this
>>584407940Takes 3 runs to finish off the renown track lil' gup.Perfectly tuned for your main to get the 1 free myth track item, just stay subbed!!!!
https://www.wowhead.com/news/multiple-bugs-preventing-progress-in-labyrinths-forcing-383409Nice patch you have here, faggots
>>584411094...made most people quit during coof lockdowns while every other game or streaming service racked up massive audiences.Yeah, somehow frog parades didn't help the fact that the game sucked ass.
>>584411147The last cool cutscenes were Nzoth breaking free and Denathrius turning the Maw red
>>584411147It's bothJust because they're guilty too doesn't suddenly absolve YOU
nothing happened to my repsschizo btfo
>>584411251who cares all those 'wow refugees' not only came back but they brought friends and converted them into lifelong wowerswe trojan horsed the fuck out of their weeb game
>>584411302>YOUThe fuck are you talking about, I loathed the stupid phasing (first sign of the game turning for worse) and then the insistence on the grand story as you're accompanying literal gods and mythical beings as everything is being explain into tiniest detail, leaving absolutely no mystique and place for imagination.Yes I'm talking about Cata and on btw.
>>584409445>>584408893What surprises me is that even when they're right, they're wrong.Just look at their posts. They are right; they admit the game sucks. But they come up with the most convoluted, contrived reasoning as to why. It's like they arrive at the correct conclusion by sheer luck, by pure chance.Unfortunately, in the end it all boils down to this >>584200992
2019: Shadowbringers comes out and everyone compares BFA's failed story. Comparisons between the 8.3 raid ending and Shadowbringers is hilarious.2021: Blizz tries to compete with Endwalker by releasing 9.2 but advertising it as the "culmination of 20 years of story". Once again they get laughed at and also people are now catching on to how much they're stealing from XIV2023: World Soul Saga is announced. Specifically meant to focus on story telling and to compete with XIV (before XIV themselves shit the bed). Dragonflight ends with an avengers assemble cutscene that is laughed at.Do you guys think the World Soul Saga has achievement their objective yet? I find most people I play with don't even take the story seriously anymore. Even lorefags seem to be skipping this shit now.
It's part of holly and metzen's plan to funnel players into fogever
>>584411167the same secret finding discord that spent weeks looking for a malformed non combat pet that wasnt even in the game?
>>584411826still makes me laugh
yo am i hallucinatingi swear if you fucked up the math on entombed in heroic you would jsut swap your numbers but now you get this cringe wrapped red orb in green jizzi have literally never seen this shit before in my entire fucking life
>>584411826Worldsoul was poisoned by Danuser's lingering cosmic poison.The Age of Mortals saga will be different.
>>584411826>we're only a year and a half away from a decade of humiliation Why am I still here? just to suffer?
Imma B real gang wow ended with Legion.
>>584412281yeah because legion sucked
>>584411181how could they do this to our martyred lady?
did a full run and kinjodan i snot here
>>584412281well it didn't but i would kill for the pash they put into that expansion even if a majority of it was shit for legendary aquisitionthe mage tower encounters and class quests were fucking peak
>>584412281I remember way back when they were first showing off the legendary weapons and the class order halls I thought 'Man this all feels so climactic, but I doubt this will be the final expansion so how the fuck are they going to go up from THIS'
>>584410043I like how Whitemane is A tier yet every single shitter who plays that game starts throwing if you pick her. LOL.
>>584411873I don't understand how this could be true, there is nothing in forever that would appeal to the modern retail player.
>Shadowlands was good actually You faggots let this revisionist bullshit happen with WoD now they're doing it again
What happened to that shot of Liadrin diving at Kithix with golden wings? I just did the LFR coz she told me to and then suddenly at the end of it she's dead for no reason.
>>584412328nah Legion was likely the best expansion ever. but regardless, even if it were bad. we shitcanned ol' sarg. that's it.
>>584412084there's not gonna be another sagablizzcon 2028 will have a big apology on stage about how huge overarching stories aren't what wow is about and they'll promise to stick to self-contained expansions14.0 will be a mists 2.0 low stakes affair set on the other side of azeroth
>>584412578retard
>>584412605wasnt DF already the low stakes shit and it sucked major assidk i didnt play gay centaurs & wheelchair dwagons
>>584412605they tried that with Dragonflight and it ended up just as bad.They need to fire the writers on stage at blizzcon
It is kind of a tragedy how these stopped being relevant as soon as their one expansion ended
>>584388343This is the image I mean, I didn't see anything like it in-game at all.
>>584412690How is dragons and titans low stakes?
are these fixed yet
>>584412707Expansion feature.New expansion comes out, previous expansion features MUST become obsolete. So says the law.
>>584412797lollmao
>>584412797yes
>>584412842they make expansion features obsolete by the end of the first patch these days
>>584393103Why would they change this then? Danuser didn't intend a trilogy, that was Metzen's idea.
>>584412759we've been raping dwagons since 2004titans... we had the real deal in Antorus
>>584412690>nd it sucked major assit was aighttdubs was better but not badbetter than the horseshite we're playing today
>>584412797You know, I don't recall Forever being as buggy as any recent retail patch, and that's a fucking beta that should be full of bugs.
at least shadowlands was cool aesthetically
>>584393103this sounds really gay
>>584412842in theory you should throw out what didnt work and keep/adapt what did workblizzard did literally the opposite lol
>>584412281Yeah my old main canonically died there.
dragon
>>584413025that it was
>>584413025
>>584411593Then why are you running damage control going "actually it's these other guys who are guilty"
Accelerate the downfall of retail. Spread negativity, complain about it, go play other games, doom post, do anything you can to force blizzards hand. The faster retail "dies" the sooner it may be revived. If it really does die, well then it's shit and not worthy of a sub. This is a blessing in disguise me tinks.
>>584413337should have picked maldraxxus or some ardenweald crap. thats not that bad the jlor or maw shit looked sick
>>584413337I like how while he was evil he was even talking like an evil NPC with shit like 'Give up FOOL'
mumbai must be nice this time of year, well if you can look past the smell of shit all around youi believe its 'straya's spring season, they're close enough, no?
>>584412797
wait a minute, i thought the big bads being called void lords which overlapped with the warlock pet was just a funny coincidence, youre telling me we actually got a look at a void lord and he's actually hust like the warlock pet? lmao
>>584412281WotLK*
>>584412690>>584412693>low stakes>end of 10.0 features the release of 3 deathwing level threats
>>584413691void lord =/= voidlord
Kindojan is probably the best nemesis encounter when it comes to design even if it was too easy
In the 16-17 range theres no fucking tanks and im tired of waiting. Should I go blood or dh?
Tell them only that Argus the Unmaker is dead, and that Retail World of Warcraft...died with Him.
>>584413542can you really publicly state to the thread when you imagined the realm of the spirit healers, this blue dreamworks slop is what you envisioned
>>584412797>story is a rushed mess>content is buggy because its rushed>PTR seemingly does nothingI'm tired bros...
>>584414023Blood
what chamber is the delve nemesis in? can i just go there without renown
>>584413337Nta but Kyrian aesthetics were cool.That they raped Uther as well as the entire lore with the spirit healers and such is a whole another case.I've said it before, this Clash of the Titans -esque theme of ancient Greeks who use clockwork robots is cool, they should have just kept it more grounded and based on Azeroth.
>kith'ix quest gives hero ring or neck>they are the most dogshit things i have ever seen so it's not even worth doing an a bad altThe stat distribution for this season is so fucking awful.
>>584413602>he's still calling everyone Indian for not liking the patch
>>584414316It's not your fault...
New delve has bullshit levels of damage that melt Valeera. One dot says it does 30k every 1/2s but it's more like 100k. Most classes will not be able to do it with the gear it gives and it feels like a ridiculous waste of time to ever do again once you have.One surprise room almost killed me, ran all over the place before I lucked into figuring it out before dying. One boss targetted me with more damage than I could deal with but managed to burn it on a second try. Tons of times I had to revive Valeera during bosses. Last boss is actually easier in that regard but you apparently lose if you get hit 3 times and there is some knockbacks to avoid while bullshit is going on all over. Otherwise not so bad. Seemed like it was almost going to be Blade and Soul tier when I heard the 3 hits and you lose part but it is nowhere near that bad.
>>584414249you have to full clear
Yes.
>>584414806Tank Valeera?
>>584412881>>584412797No. I got the bug on my main 5 hours ago and just got the bug again on my alt.
Liadrin will be the first retail undead paladin, trust the plan
now wait a second i finished the invasion and nobody got a reward
i only have ATT installed just to hear the new item sound effects
>>584414806Did nobody notice that on PTR?
>>584405436Is this real? I just did tier 11 college and she was dying hardcore, I had to spam heals on her the whole time. Her shadow never showed up either.
>go into new raid>suddenly end up in that new area they added to the ringing deeps with the undermine patchHoly reused assets batman. And/or reused cut content maybe.
>take abilities away to make game easier>take addons away but now you use even more convoluted ones>people stop playing.whoa.They listened to reddit. You say ability prune bad there, and it's like a gorillion down votes from Clancy the transbian disabled bi-gendered Oregonian.
Why didn't worgens save WoW? I thought we agreed they would
>>584415041>>584415060I just did it as holy pala and she was op as usual, kindojan was at 40% when he did the loa mechanics
Furries are awful and everyone hates them.
>>584415102They did save WoW, but only temporarily.
Trannies are awful and everyone hates them.
haha wait whatthat was fucking it???THAT WAS IT??
Furries and Trannies are awful and everyone hates them.
Scalies are delightful and everyone loves them.
>>584415220trvke>>584415272rather chat with troons than peoplew that crank to fem w*rgen
>>584415419goldslut and nerdthyr are the only good scalies
Did I miss something in the fight and Liadrin got wounded?
>>584415443>t. roon
>>584415475Apparently this only happened out of game>>584388343
>>584415475You missed who is writing the story of your game. If some blue haired whale in California says a character dies, they die. This is what you get for being a paypig and playing this game so 2 guilds can have a dick measuring contest for a week while they get donobombs from zoomers.
>>584415352LOL you didn't even do it without dying on your first run. Get back in there, retard.
>>584415352>no Lone Raider achievementyou didn't beat the game.
>>584415098Hardest trvke in the thread. Only thing that needed a prune was enhance. Some abilities were dumb like that blessing of season nonsense on hpal, but they could of replaced it something actually cool.
bro these cutscenes are so dogshit man what are they doing
>>584415716>>584415696i died once to the axes on my first attempt and on the second attempt they didnt even damage me. i got him to 30% the first pull but i really dont wanna spend another 45 minutes in that shit right now
>>584415782>could of>>584415865Get back in there and finish it.
If they really had to kill Liadrin they should have let Xal atath do it while she was protecting the world soul/world soul door or something more meaningful
>okay guys time to prune the healers theyre too hard or something>almost finish>get to Pres Evoker>hmm, what do we even do here?>I KNOW>just remove Spiritbloom, their best ability in dungeons but also aesthetically>replace it with a dogshit watered down carbon copy of it, except it's RNG>oh yeah also remove Rapture from Priests in TWW and replace that with a literal carbon copy that is also RNG>call them apex talents
>>584416068No she had to strain too hard and die somehow instead. Vagueposting villain isn't allowed to do anything.
>>584415253I guess what can they really do, after all...
>labyrinth bugs out on room 8i'm actually seething
>>584416326
>>584416326it's bugged out at the end for me twice, it's not even fun to do or hard. I hate this game
>>584416326>week 1 ptr bugs on live 6 weeks laterNice
>also get rid of Cloudburst totem>Only retarded women and basedboys play R Sham and Cloudburst is too hard for them>get rid of the only interesting button on the entire spec>replace that with a watered down piece of RNG shit>call it the apex talent
>>584413025No, not really. >Druid area but more gay>Valkyr area but more gay>Scourge area but more gay>Vampires but disney
This is pretty much the modus operandi of nublizzard these days, push buggy patches to live, fix bugs when the forums or wowhead posts about it, see guys, we're fixing things
??????????????????????????
>warbanks disabled again
Reminder that this bugged piece of shit patch was so bugged it wasnt even a release candidate
I like how Valeera loses her power against certain mobs. Is this 6mil hp thing going to take longer than a 25m hp boss? Who knows! The numbers are meaningless and it's all fake.
Patch out for EU yet?
>>584417026I'm not coming back to Retail unless they reduce the HP of every mob and boss by 50%. Game is a fucking slog with meaningless power gains.It doesn't matter if you loot The Reborn Corrupted Twilight Ashbringer, the monsters are going to take literally forever to kill. And for what? To puppyguard the shitty RNG Heroic loot?
>>584417173https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24307306/midnights-1215-content-update-is-now-live
>>584417173yes
>>584417179just roll tank and aoe them down. I can't play dps classes anymore because it's so much faster
Darkfallen paladins
>>584417256Nothing you do right now makes the game not a slog, sorry.
https://raider.io/the-unbinding-of-kithix/boss-rankings/kithix/world/mythicACK
>all those chests that contain uncapped hero and myth crests reset Lmao it wasn't doing that on the PTR.
>don't even interact with salandria a single time>get given liadrin's weapons after irrelevant quest steps like talking with orwyena>'salandria totally wants you to have her adoptive mother's sick gear'lolalso>orweyna has a vision about the world soul>first thing she says is "WHERE IS ARATOR?"Whenever arator is not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "where is arator?". These devs are unironic writing like a simpson's meme.
>play wowf>I horizontally progress>retoilets vertically seethe
>want to do labyrinth >can't because there's existing bugs>also don't want to waste my keys on regular delves because i just want to one shot the mega delve>could do new raid>meh>vault gave me garbage so took bonus roll>mexican key hoursok....
whatever happened to the rep bug?
Crests are uncapped next week, not this week which is dumb, just fucking uncap it this week faggot ion but whatever
i paused my gooning session to play this patch
>>584417505nublizzard somehow fixed it, no one's reps got reset and there's no angry posts on the bug forums, after shadowlands rep bug, it was hard to trust nublizzard over bugs like this
>>584417524For real why the fuck would they not uncap crests this week? Looney tunes shit.
this is the onyl general i read where people hate patch day for their game
Reminder that this dogshit expansion has one more season.
>>584417665>people hate shit that doesn't workshocker
How hard is heroic bug pug?
>>584387241tune in the next week on dragon ball Z
>>584417676it's cut content from TWW, they've had years to work on it lol
>>584417676It has 4 more months of this season lmaoWe're not even halfway through
If blizzard is incapable of writing a good story anymore why is the new warcraft 3 campaign ok storywise?
>>584417834October to January is usually my favorite time to play WoW, shame this expac sucks
>>584417886Because Metzen wrote it. He's already talked about how the retail team was "doing their own thing" aka they told grandpa to fuck off they got it (they don't) and so he worked on Forever and W3 instead
>>584417886because there is a council of grannies that run this shit into the ground
>>584417919Same.There's something about playing worlo during the Halloween-Christmas-New Years eve time.Thank fuck for Forever.
>another shitty bug filled patchSo when does their promise to do better take effect or...?
>>584416608Resto Shaman is unironically the worst spec in the game to play now. For the first time ever (playing Shaman since TBC) my shaman's DPS spec is her main.
>>584417665X, but you are kinda right in a way. No other game I personally play gets this reviled this often by its own mega fans. It's so rare wow gets a patch that is just good. In other games they fix bugs and give you something new to play with. Balance changes cause grumbling in any game. Wow players get mad at the new content, get more bugs, and the shit balance changes. It's grim.
>won't touch Yrel because she's a Yiddish (Jew) inspired race genociding the brown orcs>use current patch to push Two State Solution propogandaOk
>>584417458Does the labyrinth use multiple keys?
It's occurring to me that even trying to get everyone involved in this patch again, they still just sorta... didn't.Once again, ignoring the Horde and Alliance altogether despite how many of them conveniently turned up in Silvermoon to do absolutely nothing apparently, they even just ignored the Elf unification.Make a big deal about it to have the Dawnwell and a big allegiance between them and blah blah blah... and I guess Shandris and the Night Elves fucked off immediately afterwards again. Thalyssra and the Nightborne also just decided to stay at home, and she's married to Lor'themar.And even at Liadrin's funeral, only two of the major players of the Light turned up, neither of which are Paladins. Shandris is still nowhere. Only Thalyssra is here, no other Nightborne despite Liadrins role in saving them. And I guess nobody on the Horde in general really gives a shit about her?I just... don't understand why they set so much of this shit up and apparently have no foresight or plans to pay the actors/animators well ahead of time for moments of these to actually make them FEEL significant. Instead the results just keep showing that there was... SO MANY things these characters could've done to avoid these stupid conclusions.Both this major and minor patches just reinforced the thought I had early on in this expansion that pretty much everyone that has had at least 10 minutes of screen time is a colossal idiot. No exceptions.
Yeah okay you cunt.
>>584418460shittercheck failed bro
>>584418495>npc is dead>doesn't count for progress>>shittercheck failed bro???? retard bro???
>>584418404once again troll anon has the best take
So this is the power of reddit down-votes on wowhead? Nuke everyone into oblivion to 'hide' their comments just because they complained - as they rightly should - about NA getting a 1 day head-start on a raid encounter? pathetic redditors and wowhead commentors!!!!
sis is rooting for the wrong team
>>584418495Already did lone raider, but whatever. Was maxing out the renown track.
>>584418731
>>584418745lil bro nobody gives a flying fuck about world first for a lair boss
>>584418731I'm glad the paladin order can embrace modern times and let their gays out in public.
>>584418745yea I stopped going there, it's blatantly bottled downvote slop now, used to be literally nothing but people bitching no matter what, and it was funny as fuck
>>584418768What the FUCK
>>584418826what does that matter? wowhead is engaging in censorship and this is un-americantheir website should be deleted right now just for this pathetic sit-in-the-corner cuckchair "discussion" they have going on here in the comment section
>>584418887nobody cares faggot
>>584418887They have always done that.
>>584414856Yes, tank valeera. 317 bm hunter. I had to turn off growl before this in delves because pet just dies to anything but here I had to have it tanking along with Valeera. I swapped her to heal for the last boss because there is basically no tanking.
>>584418731what an awful art style how do you stand looking at this shit
delve glove enchants apparently work everywhere not just delves
>>584418973I've never been able to stand looking at the judgement set, the new one especially is just awful.
>>584419015not tomorrow they won't, lil Melvin BIIIIIIITCH. lmao!
>>584419015kek KEK
>>584419015Honestly I think they probably should anyway. It's not like they're OP.
>>584415060That one version of college has insane damage from those enemies you expose.
>>584418404>they even just ignored the Elf unification.I remember during the HYPE period for The Snore Within people were theoryshitting about what this could mean for Midnight. Read several interesting ideas here about the various playable elfs and even the naga and satyr coming together all to prevent the Void End Times.And yet all that came out of this Elf unification idea was a wet fart. It's one thing to imagine a scenario the devs aren't going for, that's fine, they're not telepathic and it is technically their story to write. But then there's "they touch upon this idea in the lamest, more half-assed way that's ultimately more confusing that they flirted with it in the first place." That's a real mark of a real shit writer, or team of writers in this case.
>>584419067mazies are going to be ones crying if they dont fix this retard
>patch adds 3 new mini-activities>all of them have major bugs
can someone help me understand whats going on with my brewmaster in delves?sometimes, i will get hit by mobs and end up in yellow or red stagger but my healthbar will barely be moving and i'll feel invinciblebut then other times i'll get hit, get virtually no stagger (even though shuffle is up) but lose 50%+ of my health instantly. primarily this is happening on the special flag packs, but it also sometimes happens on normal mobs too. but it doesnt happen in open world or in group play like dungeons or at least not that i've noticed. its really fucking with me, because my warrior can breeze through delve 11s no problem, but my brew who is in better gear will go into 11s or even 9s or 10s and just get his asshole turned inside out in a second randomly for no reason, but then be completely invincible on other pulls, and i dont know whats going on. it didnt feel this bad last patch either, so is there some new ulatek patch attack or effect which is bypassing stagger?
>>584419191Labyrinth bugs were found and reported week 1 of the PTR btw
>>584419087I hate that one. >low geared character>expose them>valeera takes 50 years to react to them and by that time they've killed me
reminder to instantly filter avatar troons
>>584419295No thanks Ranjesh
>>584412797This indicates people's suspicions were right, that retail devs are all working full time on Forever. It's so over for retoilet... and for classic+ too0
last season's mounts on the vendorwhy bother with m+
>Play human bro, best race for transmogs>Every shield clips inside the shoulder
>>584419354>'ast 'son's 'unts on the 'dor's 'ver
>>584419397>best race for transmogsthat would be dwarfs
>>584419354>why get to 3k and get 2 mounts when you could get to 3.6k next season and get 1 mountHmm really making my noggin work overtime.
>if the big delve bosses bug out you cant even get loot for the rooms you didlolthought id quickly get the delve nemesis title but even that's proving to be rng based just because of bugs getting to himsee you in forever fags
>>584419110They keep trying to go big with no payoff, or a really bad one.Part of why I have no excitement for Forever. Same writers, what reason is there to think any of the changes or new stuff they do is going to be 'better'. They're already doing questionable shit before it releases.Kinda missing when the writing started going bad, it was at least laughably bad, had entertainment in it. Now its just... bad and uncomfortably boring.
>>584419482If you kill yourself a bunch or just use the toy to end the run you will.>t. someone totally not fucking fuming about room 9 bugging out
>>584419441This lol3k can be done in an evening if you login during the second half the season, 3600 is a good week long project.
How doable is 3600 this season without touching my foot in the raid? I really don't wanna pug
>>584419662not at all this season. all bis is from the raid
>labyrinth bugged>invasions on a 1 hour timer again
>>584419530i've played through some of the new quests and dungeons in forever and they seem to be in keeping with the spirit of classic pretty well. maybe they just cant do giant character driven save the world warrior of light arcs very well.
>>584419687F U NAt least Holly can do interviews and talk about community and friendship all the time and never get asked tough questions
POV: YOU'RE A RACE TRAITORAHAHAHAHAHAHAH RACE TRAITORS GET THE ROPE AHAHAHAHA LMAO DESERVED >>584418768
How have the Liadrin Zuljarra shippers taken todays cutscene?
>>584419295sour little pussy
>>584419441>>584419567So your goal is to play the game the least as possible just to get the mounts mogs and cheevos? Interesting
>>584419852Why are you doubling down on your retardation?
I sure hope this doesnt reset
>>584388343This. As usual, reddit, twitter and 4chan are media illiterates and don't understand the story.
