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>October Trading Post:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/october-2026-trading-post-bilebound-urzul-mount-and-wizard-cat-383229

Useful Links
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https://housing.wowdb.com/

>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)
>NA
<GLOBOFOMO>
>EU
<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>

Old >>584384379
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Forever waiting room.
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Why didn't WoW ever get this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rjw8bDcLdE

>make the orphan an orphan again

What did metzen mean by this?
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>>584425108
Cool, now make it work with 100 people playing from across the globe.
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>>584425108
blizzard didnt wanna get sued by tribes.
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Is blizzard going to overcorret? Will the next raid be piss easy? CBT tiers are killing guilds left and right
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>>584425342
Fuck no, they priotize the stupid race between 3 guilds, it's gonna be overtuned
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>>584425342
No they will keep doubling down until everyone switches to forever. A master plan that I cannot even begin to comprehend. Too high iq for me.
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>>584425342
Nah, everything will be stupid hard and buggy as fuck while they nerf and fix things over time.
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Anons, of the 3 main Blizzard universes. Do you think Warcraft, Diablo or Starcraft has the coolest universe/lore?
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>liadrin dies
>orwenya looking at the pozzed world core
epic patch
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>>584425613
I'm barely doing them at all, so by default you're doing them better.
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>>584425753
Whichever one has been touched less in the past 10 years.
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>>584425753
Starcraft 1, but Starcraft 2 tainted that forever
Warcraft 3, but wowo wawa tainted that forever
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>>584425163
the hags and troons in the writers room meant "I will antagonize anyone prettier than me"

I am so sick of these fucking harpies running the game into the ground and never taking penalty for it.
Literally it is just them the rest of blizzard is delivering to greater or lesser degrees but the writing leadership is just constantly throwing away their work with dogshit story that makes everyone not care about the rest.

I literally cannot give a shit about this patch or the next. The story is too retarded and they seem to be killing of liked characters just for fun while actively protecting villains and trying to portray them as misunderstood "victims".

Like these bitches are second hand trauma dumping at us using a fanbase as a therapy session while they themselves are actively writing an enabling MONSTROUS behavior that they sympathize with and think we should as well because the perpetrator is a "victimized woman" and can thus do no wrong.
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I bought some more store mounts, maybe they'll speed up fixing the bugged quests so I can get Liadrin's sword and piss on it
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healer or dps valeera? im new to delves
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we already have a thread
stop making new ones
>>583942105
>>583942105
>>583942105
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https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/backlash-grows-as-world-of-warcraft-midnight-continues-to-represent-the-most-painfully-weak-writing

DEAD GAME
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>>584424952
love wowg anons!!!
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>>584426116
Everyone hates furries and every time you act out like this you make it worse.
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>>584426180
3 more weeks and we's be free of this slop
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>>584426116
Everyone fucking hates you.
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>>584426116
I love how butt blasted this joke makes people every time you post it. Please never stop.
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>>584426180
>Things just keep happening for no real reason; "and then," it leads to no real consequences. There are too many plot threads going nowhere. Too many characters are half-baked and then sidelined, leading to various instances of "and then" instead of "therefore." Major lore points keep getting glossed over. Villains who vaguepost and scheme and tease and spend years leading us on to nowhere. Sylvanas showed up in Midnight for literally no reason. So many things keep happening for no reason.

He's not wrong...
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>>584426360
>I w-was just k-kiding heh, the j-joke is on y-you!
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The fox thread is so much better then this one and I'm not even a furry.
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>>584425108
Because it looks gay as shit and doesn't belong in an MMORPG.
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>>584426657
Oh yeah, just look at all that WoW discussion.
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>Its actually wild that of the original horde leaders in classic, 2/4 are dead, 1 is semi retired (thrall) and 1 is trapped in the maw except when she needs to make a quick cameo.
blue good red bad CHUD. besides, stickney is a retardedly obese blue whale.
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Grandmas gave you Retail
You're playing a Grandma game
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>>584427713
grandma longdale is giving you forever, do you realize
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>>584425753
Warcraft is a rip off of Lord of the Rings, Diablo is a rip off of D&D, but desu with you, I am still reciting Starcraft quotes, namely the Ghost unit. The Ghost's quotes from Starcraft live rent free in my head til this day and I haven't played SC since 2000 or some shit.

Work work work.
I'm gone.
Somebody call for an exterminator?
For my ancestors!
Random Dark Templar quotes.
My life for Aiur.
ZHEE HOUSE!
Entaro Adun!
Power overwhelming...
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>>584427934
calling wow a rip off of lotr is incredibly disingenuous, it’s like saying all of society is a rip off of ancient greece because they invented vague concepts first
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>>584427934
Warcraft and Starcraft are a ripoff of Warhammer first and foremost.
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>do aqir invasion thing
>the small events give 35 rep and nothing else
>kill the big monstrosity
>get literally nothing
I am so fucking confused.
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i'm so sick of this bitch, beyond done
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>>584428082
>herpa depra derpa derpa lemme sound smart by inserting "disingenuous" even though the poster is being genuine just by remembering the quotes that came before I was even born, also lemme ignore the entire point of the post

>>584428097
>ackkktuallyyyy did you know
Yeah who gives a shit retarded autist, that wasn't the point of the post.

so much cancer in here.
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>>584428281
I’ll make sure to avoid big boy words next time since we have unironic 70 iq browns here apparently
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I didn't think they were actually going to do it in some pointless raid in a mid patch, like what was the point of killing her here?
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>>584428281
>that wasn't the point of the post.
I see, your point was to be fucking retarded.
Keep at it then, king.
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>>584428364
I don't understand what killed her.
>oh no champion i strained too hard channeling the light i am dead now
Like, what?
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>>584428364
at this point I’m convinced they aggressively write total dogshit on purpose because it gets more attention that writing bland slop, there’s no other explanation
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>>584428485
She simply lost will to live
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>>584428526
playing retoilet will do that to you )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>584428485
Yeah it's not even like she was taking hits and they didn't explain that she's like sick or dying or something and using the light could just kill her. We win, then lorthemar and the troll girl and they do that cliche "oh yeah we are so happy we won!" and shake hands, then he said "Liadrin?" and she's just dead for no reason, not like she got impaled or anything, just od'd on the light.
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>>584428341
>>584428385
>you didnt have a point you were just (insert thought terminating troll cliche)
Okay trolls. Sorry I offended you.
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>>584428621
you sound genuinely mentally ill, it’s not normal to shit your diaper in seething rage over a normal discussion
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Samefag trolls in here kill the entire thread with their gay pointless bullshit.
Just go troll on /b/.
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And her best friend in the whole world is a troll, almost as annoying as shandris's only friend being undead she just met
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>>584428281
The trolls hated Him because He told the Truth.
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>>584428757
really makes you think about the parallels…. i love niggers now….
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>>584428590
When I did it on normal I went straight into LFR for it because I thought "surely I missed something because I was focusing on the fight and seeing what the boss does not paying attention to her".
Like maybe there was a moment during gameplay she got fucked up by one of the adds that spawn in, or Kith'ix channeled an assblaster spell on her or something. Nope, nothing.
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And Velen shows up after a hard job of being absent all patch
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Can we ban the off topic ad hominem trolls? Why are they even here?
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>>584428757
Why is this expansion so stupid?
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>>584428931
Yeah it made no sense, the writers just thought "yeah this is a good time for her to die", they should have at least given her some kind of illness from the start of the expansion or something, she just dies randomly after not getting hit by anything
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I think if we post foxes in this thread people will see its not so bad and come to the real thread.
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I knew this patch would be shambles when the PTR was delayed then they didn't even push new builds for a couple of weeks because lmao blizzcon.
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>valeera keeps grabbing way more enemies then moving around corners so i cant dps or heal her
They really did train these AIs on real people didnt they?
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>Create a fantasy world
>Impossible for human to have long beard
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>Horde almost entirely absent in expansion set entirely in horde area.
>Horde npcs playign second fiddle to alliance for 95% of the expansion.
>except when it comes time for someone to be killed off.
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>Alleria has a fallen void naruu cut out of her via a gaping wound in her back cut by the big bad with a evil sould trapping knife, after having the shit beat out of her by a raid
>then gets thrown unconcious through a black hole into a cave in the center of the world
>lives.

>Liadrin fights a boss with the aid of a raid and several other lore npcs.
>IS A PROT PALADIN
>CAN BUBBLE AND LOH AND IS ABSURDLY TANKY
>Dies

I fucking despise these writers.
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>>584428259
Unironically I'm the opposite, we haven't had anything to do with her since launch day really, it's just been fucking trolls and Arator and now THIS. Give me purple elf feet over that shit any day.
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>didnt get credit for the kill
haha
what now
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You pay your rapist a monthly sub
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>>584430503
You use the toy to end your run because it's bricked now.
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>>584430804
God damn it.
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First of all... Check out this post by bellend lol pretty good huh

Secondly

>>584428364
>>584428485
>>584428590

All of you are clowns, she's right here, ready to take up the mantle as the new leader of the wHorde. She will revive Liadrin after fan backlash, undead paladins will enter retail, and all of you guys will post here in february 23 2027 "i never doubted" and response to a post saying "i love blizz" in the wowg thread during season 3

Calia is literally in midnight and you fat chuds can't even see past your pizza rolls (american anons) and bread (eu anons)

that said... KEKW THOUGHBEIT is there a bigger fail than retail writers? maybe ummm oh wait... troll anon AHAHAHA LOL LMAO STRAYA CUNT
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forgot my image...............
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>>584430503
>what now
You pray for blibli to fix it right today or add one week for the title kino
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Aisha please descend upon us and make the bethesda layoffs look like after school detention.
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It's like a democrat saying
"nnnnnnnnngh... huff...huff... twump..... will neva.... trans rights....." *dies*

like can you get that feeling from this image?
you just know these fucking lefties are all "the right will never" or "the chuds" blah blah

they fucking push it into everything all the time

a fucking fictional videogame has to be pozzed by these guys all the time

some fat woman is using her lack of physical prowess irl to take out zul'jan in a video game cinematic cutscene bro

some tranny is using his stuck wound that hurts everytime 1cm moves inside him because he's wearing his dialator at work to make this cutscene seem more impactful in their head by having her last words ever be "darkness will never prevail" and then they put greenskin hands on her boobs that is covered by her flat chest plate like ????

>>584431752
trvke but she is way too wrapped up in gaylo right now to have any affect or sway

even if she spoke to holly, holly would just talk her out of the room and make her think everything is fine

after all forever just sold billions
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Does anyone have that image of J'lor from the sanctum end cinematic with him holding a photoshopped in subscription cancelled page?
The scene where he says "For too long I have endured the makers flawed design".
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During the blizzcon, they said the 12.2 raid will have a "holy shit!" moment where a beloved character will return. I guess we know now:
>Lady Liadrin the Light Reborn
or
>Lady Liadrin the Bright Death
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>install HotS
>get in a quick game
>everyone instantly starts talking shit to me for no reason whatsoever

holy shit the people who play this are literally psyche ward insane.
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>>584425342
The name of the guild the Game Director used to lead should tell you everything you need to know
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>>584432017
his tranilla experience is irrelevant
he was a gray parsing turboshitter by sneedolands
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>>584431905
>every armor now needs LED stripes
God I hate everything about modern wow.
Really everything sucks so fucking much.
Yeah I'm gonna miss my complete collection of vanilla slutmogs on Forever but I will gladly farm them again if I don't see this shit anymore.
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Ion couldn't clear a raid today on heroic if he lead a bunch of lfr pugs

Ion would do grey parse in heroic venemous abyss despite knowing all the mechanics lmao

Fuck Ion
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>>584431905
>where a beloved character will return
>it's going to be some alliance glup shitto or a windrunner
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>>584427934
Diablo is not a ripoff of DND lmao. Warcraft is, down to the most minute details. Ever wonder why basilisks have 6 legs in WoW
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>>584432179
Horde expansion. Maybe Vol'jin
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>>584432086
Yes but its telling about his mentality
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>>584432286
They openly said they wanted to make Warhammer but didn't get the loicense, so they just made ripoff - Warcraft being Warhammer one and Starcraft a WH40k one.
Starcraft was supposed to be called Orcs in Space, but they saw it to be too retarded.
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>>584432436
The new young retards don't understand anything about history, including video games. They're all retarded people.
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>>584432436
Some basic fantasy stuff aside, very few Warhammer elements exist in WoW. But DnD they did rip off to hell
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>>584432329
>Horde expansion
nah
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>>584428364
>>What was the point of killing her here
>Damn those Horde players are making fun of our story and saying the Blood Elves have zero agency. We'll show em! We got one minor patch left before we need to go back to Danusers original plan, quickly, kill their most popular remaining female character off!
It has and will always be spite.
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>>584431225
Why can't you make playable undead look like this?
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>>584432808
>why cant undead be humans but white
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>>584428364
>lady liadrin dead slain for the Amani
Jeet's art was prophetic...
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>>584432805
I imagine whoever thought of that "story" came up with something else, but as it was passed around the different members of the council where everyone felt like they need to say SOMETHING, it turned into this watered down slop that doesn't make any sense.
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>glove enchant is working everywhere EXCEPT delves
????
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>>584432916
lorthemar next? hope he dies as brutally teebeeache
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>>584432436
>>584432658
To be clear, I'm not disputing that fact, they did say that. But what ended up in the game is a different story.
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>>584432886
and booba
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>>584431875
>Fucking nazis... will never prevail *dies*
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>>584428364
They were originally going to kill Lor'themar but then they realized people caught on to them always making females the leaders of every single faction since Dragonflight and people making fun of them for never killing off females like Sylvanas, they just randomly decided to have her die in a pointless one boss mid mid boss patch with no lead ups to it or why.
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Apologize
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>>584431905
>Liadrin travelling through The Maw
>Suddenly hand from behind grabs her shoulder
>It's Sylvanas
>"Your time is not yet up, your people need you one more time"
>ENTER >>>>*NEW* Undead Paladin *NEW*<<<< Liadrin
>people go like "HOLY SHIT!"
>Taliesin cums on it's own
>Bellular screams Warcraft is back
>Asmongold THERE IT IS DOOD
>Savix OMFG
>Warcraft is... Forever
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Why the fuck are all these new Aqir untameable? All I want is a HD Aqir, every other one in the game is pre-WoD.
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>>584433868
pick up that dragon riding glyph
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>>584433905
I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't play in Dragonflight.
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>>584428364
>>584433749
>Original plan to kill Lor'themar
>catch wind about female leaders and killing males
>Kill Liadrin instead + it gives perfect chance to set up undead paladins and show them chuds that they can kill females too
>>
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>>584428940
he's a prophet, he knows when to call in sick
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>>584428940
What a sad showing for her funeral with a speech given by the blood elf ruler.
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Too much fomo in this patch... I'm too weak, I guess I'm back in worlo
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was it really necessary to timegate labyrinth renown
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The fabled title is way too easy this time around, everyone should really have it by the end of the week and you get to keep your boons from the 9 chambers so you're getting like 50%+ health and damage
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https://files.catbox.moe/ifrn9e.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/zais2e.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/y8guhp.jpg
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>>584434531
it aint timegated
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https://youtu.be/F1pkwARaVAY?si=8EEzYDCCIdHg7aDq&t=1455
>"When it comes to WoW storytelling, we are not screwing around"

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/backlash-grows-as-world-of-warcraft-midnight-continues-to-represent-the-most-painfully-weak-writing
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>>584434531
are they going to add more? I maxed it out after two runs
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>>584434531
It takes 1.5 runs to max. My 2nd run of the place bricked at room 7 and I still maxed it out before that even happened.
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>>584432916
you fucking suck jeetda
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Can you people comprehend that this is not the main thread?
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well that was probably the easiest fabled achievement to date... Disappointed.
Has to be bugged there is no way kinder'janny is supposed to die that easily/take that amount of dmg.
Azta'rec was also rather easy due to giga cheese with addons.
unironically nullaeus was harder
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>just do the same shit 20 times
zzZZZ
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lab is so fucking boring dude
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>>584435125
I did aztarec on tank and he didn’t even kill you if you fucked up simon says
actual joke boss, the whole expansion is toddler food compared to tww
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>>584434531
It was.
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>>584435173
>>584435152
>>584434531
It's their first attempt at a casu hardcore activity, this is not perfect but they tried
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>there are gonna be people bragging about their fabled vanquisher titles
let that sink in
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>>584435389
whats hardcore about this
>>
WHAT IF............... WHAT IF AN ELF WAS SAD BUT THINGS WERE GOING TO TURN OUT OKAY
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>>584435389
L O L
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>>584435389
>what is zekvir
>what is underpin
>what is kyveza
>what is nullaeus
>what is azta'rec
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Hey, remember during BfA beta when there were fake leaks going around that Turalyon was going to execute Liadrin? Even that would have been a far more dignified death for her.
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>Backlash grows as 'World of Warcraft: Midnight' continues to represent the most painfully, miserably weak writing in all of Blizzard

The story is good but it's rushed because of the retarded microslop-blizzard "I want to sell a 90 euros expansion each year".

Same for the gameplay/systems, they are good but they are rushed and so bugged.

I hate that they are ruining worlo just to feed the capitalist pigs
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>>584435650
>Turalyon
he is still alive btw
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Remember when they said the labyrinth was supposed to be a huge experience you could split up over multiple sessions and instead it takes an hour and resets if you leave
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>90 euro expansion
>has literally never happened
oh boy, the eurotards are still awake?
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>>584435603
Come on bro, don't compare a single boss in a single room and a huge comfy kino hyper space with tons of bosses and mini activities
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>>584434947
time to fire some grannies
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They really gotta fire Holly at this point. Signing off on making 4 expansions at once was the dumbest move and if I was a investor I'd be pissed. Asha, her and her writing team are tanking your billion dollar brand potential.
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>Reeeee, why nobody dies in this Saga! There are no stakes!
>Liadrin dies
>Reeeee, anything but my waifu—who hasn't been interesting or significant since TBC!
horde fags are so pathetic
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>>584435718
>The story is good
>Same for the gameplay/systems, they are good
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>>584435979
yeah maybe kill an alliance character for once retard
last one was 10 years ago btw
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>>584435979
>Implying Alliance haven't spent the last 3 expansions crying about how Turalyon is totally gonna die
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>>584436025
Locus-Walker and Lothraxion
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>>584435979
there's this thing called "execution", when people ask for something, there is the underlying implication that they want that thing to be done well.
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>>584436086
>towelhead and literal demon
>alliance
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>>584435979
In their defence, Lady Liadrin had the potentiel to become a teen mommy like Alex. It's over now, the sexiest Horde leader is Thrall now.
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>>584436054
>Turalyon is totally gonna die
He is 100% dying in Eclipse tho.
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>>584435968
Blizzard is probably getting mass layoffs in January once the month 1 Forever hype dies and retail continues its freefall descent. Microsoft still has 1300 gaming layoffs teed up and they've gutted almost every studio that isn't an Activision one or Blizzard yet, the time is coming
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>>584436086
NOOOOOOO NOT LOTHRAXION. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE DREADLORD? HOLY SHIIIIT, HOW WILL THE DREADLORD EVER SURVIVE DEATH. WHAT A WASTE OF A CHARACTER. IF ONLY HE COULD RESSURECT, BLIZZARD WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO THE ALLIANCE, WHY ARE YOU SO BIASED TO THE HORDE
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>>584436025
>yeah maybe kill an alliance character for once
Why?
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>>584436210
Nah,
>he's literally the last legendary Paladin still alive
>he's the Padre for the Humans and the Draenei
>he has a son, blizzard isn't going to kill a father
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So you're saying that after all these years of people insisting Turalyon was the prime candidate to get killed off, it’s actually Liadrin who dies?

Bravo, Blizzard! What a twist!
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i forgot lothraxion even died lmao
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>>584436365
>he's literally the last legendary Paladin still alive
Vol'jin is coming back as Loa of paladins
>he's the Padre for the Humans and the Draenei
He is a white het male
>he has a son, blizzard isn't going to kill a father
And Liadrin had a daughter, so?
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any oilers in this thread that bought the 7milly mount
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>Bluebois acting like the victim again because hypothetical dead man has been hypothetically dying for 10 years now.
KWAB
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>>584436594
>And Liadrin had a daughter
She did?
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>>584436365
The current writers hate him though. They pulled the shitty light corruption stuff out of their ass just because he is righteous.
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>>584436252
>Blizzard is probably getting mass layoffs
Nobody gives a damn about the plot—no one’s going to fire people over it, lol. Some janitor probably wrote it anyway.
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>>584436782
The BE orphan who we took out for walks during Children's Week was adopted by Liadrin, I think
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>still alive
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>>584436881
If the plot was the only issue with Midnight people would love the expansion. It's a bug-riddled shitshow with a mountain of bland content and this season is just complete dogshit. M+ is tracking its least popular season since SL and raid numbers are continuing to decline despite the desperate attempts to force people to do heroic this tier. This expansion is clearly flopping
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>>584435979
>—
>emdash
SAAAR
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>>584436635
yea
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>>584437068
Actually, I'm from Ukraine.
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>>584436782
Yes, she’s had a daughter for over twenty years now. How did you not know?
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>>584437289
He doesn't play Horde, of course he wouldn't know.
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>>584437189
>brown vatnik retard
figures
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>>584437152
looks like a horse cock
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>>584436509
Yes, Alleria killed him because he had become too blinded by the Light.
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>>584437627
Did Alleria kill her friend?
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There was more hope for the game under his stewardship.
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>>584438178
i blame the simps for simping over xal's feet
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Everyone relax.

Grandmas are in control.

WoW will be okay.
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Dragonflight and its consequences have been disastrous for the Warcraft franchise.
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Wake me up when.... *coughs* worlo.... *dies*
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>>584438465
maybe we should start blaming metzen instead of grandmas?
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>>584438626
the grandma council made metzen give up on retail lmfao
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>>584436594
tranny post
tranny thread
tranny game
tranny franchise
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>>584438626
>we should start blaming metzen
Why? After all, it was Metzen who wrote the Forsaken Kingdom, and the storyline aligns far better with the spirit of classic Warcraft than what these witches are serving up to us.
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>>584438797
almost forgot
tranny company*
Metzen is,was and always will be a cuck and a faggot.
Thank you for your attention, that is all.
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Blizzard is sabotaging Retail WoW. People are starting to wake up, after the humiliating blizzcon and the infinite bugged ugly retarded patchslops.

reddit (the main source of content for retard streamers and the main source of feedback for WoW CMs) is destroying the patch. Maybe Ion and Holly are next.
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>>584434947
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Moral of the story. Never let a Night Elf fan write your setting.
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>>584434947
Grim
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>>584438828
This is just cope.
>No Metzen only writes the good parts! He wasn't the one who shat out worldsoul!
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reminder the Retail WoW story dev has one of the highest budgets at blizzard and Ion talked about how well staffed they are.
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>>584438465
>ignoring that maga Metzen is 100% responsible for the disastrous state of WoW
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>>584439235
It's pretty obvious that the Granny Council would continue to ruin the game with or without Metzen there, they were doing it in Sneedolands and DF
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>>584439203
>Cairne Bloodhoof
>meaningful death as part of an epic cutscene
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>>584438465
>>584438758
Where does this "hag council controls Warcraft story" stem from?
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You can tell the council doesn't have a single person it who actually likes the Horde.
Because other-wise, it would've been easy to point out that hey, maybe killing off another Horde character, a fan favourite one at that, in an expansion where we've tried our best to act like the Horde doesn't even exist would probably be bad for our reputation?
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>>584438178
There are actually some kinda hot pics of the Jailer getting his feet tickled and his dick milked but I wouldn't recommend going down the rabbit hoole
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>>584439050
When they said about 20 more years of Warcraft, they meant with Forever. They want you to move from this broken piece of shit which somehow survived this long with spaghetti coding, duct tape and zip wires to the fresh version of retail which starts from the very beginning - the classic WoW.

That's their plan.
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the retail wow story is just what happens when the writters only feed back is Talison and he calls every story plot and cinematic a brilliant master peice and uses his art degree as a authority to say this.
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>>584439478
>who actually likes the Horde.
After Turalyon, Khadgar, and Danath were subjected to humiliation, you’re an idiot if you think they harbor any sympathy for the Alliance. They absolutely dislike both factions.
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>>584436267
I say this and look like this.
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>>584439475
Metzen and others have said in interviews that the story is now "democratically decided" and that everyone has a say in what happens compared to before where they had more strict leadership
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>>584439695
>Muh humiliation.
None of those characters are dead. None of those characters have just fallen over because lmao exhaustion. They didn't even have the balls to actually kill Khadgar off and both his original "death" and return were both pre-rendered cinematics.
Liadrin got a shitty in game one, the Alliance has never suffered the humiliation Horde are repeatedly forced to take with it's characters and don't even try to pull the
>Muh Teldrassil
Bullshit, because Teldrassil didn't even have a single notable Night Elf die
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Have you remembered to apologise to Alex today?
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>another bugged to all fuck patch with invasions and a single raid boss that's comprised entirely of mechanics from the prior expansion
>labyrinth and campaign both pushed to live with documented day1 ptr gamebreaking bugs
are they even trying anymore, like genuinely this is so bad
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>>584436441
I remember people saying he was totally going to die soon since 7.3 was on the fucking beta
Hilarious how Liadran managed to die before him LMAO
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>>584439861
ye
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>>584439475
"No negativity in the dojo"
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>>584439878
Nothing will change until people unsub in mass
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>>584439861
He was worse because he tried to ruin sylvanas because he tried to ret con garrosh during cataclysm into being Honorable Orc hitler and everyone called him a retard.
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>>584439861
Why would I apologise? If he could've just kept it in his pants we wouldn't be in this situation. Fuck him. He caused this mess.
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>>584439695
Plus half the Alliance characters becoming neutral just makes them even more bland and no one ever actually does anything.
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>>584436441
>>584439918
But he's member of the Alliance, they can't kill them.
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>>584439965
>tried to ruin sylvanas
Death to Sylvanasfags
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At this point the only way to compensate the Horde is to line up the entire Alliance leader-ship and livestream their execution cinematic.
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>>584439575
I don't think WoWforever going to last more than 6 months
>eternal lvl60
>horizontal progression aka no progression
>" it's Classic but it's not Classic" lol marketing
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>>584439861
Afrasiabi is literally where the problems began
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>>584439861
I miss when the game was unapologetically about bara orcs having gay sex with one another desu
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>>584439848
>None of those characters are dead
It’s better for these characters to be dead. At least that way, these writers won’t rape them.
>None of those characters have just fallen over because lmao exhaustion
That is literally what happened to Turalyon. Even worse, since Liadrin at least did something during the boss fight.
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>legacy race leader drops dead from cringe
>non-rendered cutscene
>no dialogue
>sunsetting the ip because foids and faggots can't write to save their lives
LOL
LMAO
ROFLMAO EVEN
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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KOSAK! I NEED YOU, KOSAK! SAVE US FROM THE GRANNIES
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>>584440128
They should have Tyrande do a nude striptease
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>>584434947
But Metzen?
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>>584440287
Kosak and his legacy was raped to death by GODnasuer
>completely undoes the cataclysm's ending with dragonflight
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retoilet sisters... the foreverchads are making fun of us again...
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>>584440287
Only Knaak can save us now
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>>584440287
why do the story devs only listen to Talision for feedback?
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If even one patch drops in forever as fucked as this one then I'm out til RS4
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>>584440128
>to line up the entire Alliance leader-ship and livestream their execution cinematic.
You say that as if someone in the Alliance would be against it.
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why are people all upset with the story? I haven't looked at anything story related since leveling when the expansion launched
any qrd of the story so far?
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>>584440426
I unironically miss Knaak, at least his stories weren't so fucking GAY
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You could have stopped this.

You could have just let them be Party Rockers, anon.
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>>584440438
Because Taliesin only tells them how great they are and how only dumb chuds don't like the game
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>>584438552
Stop operating on weird hours, I can't wake you up when I'm gonna be dead to the world too.
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>>584440517
>why are people all upset with the story?
Blizzard killed off Liadrin. A character no one had cared about since TBC but now everyone suddenly cares, because they need a reason to get angry.
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>>584440495
asya and velen can stay
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>>584440495
>double sized panda looks completely out of place and fucking retarded
MoP was when Disney took this game straight to the fucking shitter btw
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>>584440495
I don't think Muradin has been raped to death (yet)
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>>584440624
I want to give this troll the strap
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>>584440545
brother, what do you meaaaaan... all knaak stories are low effort fujo bait all the way through, that's all he writes
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It was a combination of Blizzard Nepotism hires getting added to the story team, then they lit in rich affluent trans/lgbt people they knew from College get on the story team. Then the hired all the LGBT political people to the story team. The entire story team does nothing all day btw despite having the highest budget.
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>>584440495
Muradin, Velen, Turalyon, Aysa can stay
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>>584440732
Ah yes the "story team budget", bro just typing random bullshit just to babble lmao. Game is trash though, so go off king
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>>584440132
Yup, just like previous versions of classic.
It will have it's hype period with first few updates but it will slowly die off like SoD.

All of this effort just to kill both retail and classic.
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>>584440545
Ngl I miss Rhonin
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The day Turalyon finally does end up dying, II hope Turalyon fags are ready for everyone to take the piss.
A decade of
>NOOOO, TURALYON DON'T DIEEEE, BLIZZARD HATES DAH LIGHT MAN
And never actually dying is gonna make the day he finally dies into the funniest thing possible.
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>>584440875
I thought Krasus was the better PoV character desu
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>>584440875
>Rhonin
too bad he is not in forever
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>>584440964
as long as one person in the council says he can't die he wont die.
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> 12.1.5 starts
> Lorthermar gave jackshit about Ulatek & other Amani issues
> for whatever the reason, Liadrin alone has magically made elves "not that bad" amongst Amani
> bug infestation in Dawnwell CIty
> "maybe the Amani have released something even worse than a snake"
> ff to the raid
> elves & Amani fighting side by side
> Lorthemar neutral towards Amani for whatever the reason
> Liadrin dies off gringe
> her death "as a martyr" is now basis for the elves & Amani to cast aside thousand+ years of hatred
> Lorthemar even acknowledges Amani's claim to the Eversong forests
> "let's call this a peace until further notice"

So what was the hag council thinking?
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>>584440964
He's literally dying in the next major patch, anon.
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>>584440642
Yeah IDK why some are so upset by this whatever tier character's death.
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>>584440495
Raw chadly aura of someone that's the only remaining original leader of his group, and only got better instead of being eternally cucked.

Put him on the throne.
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>>584440964
erm 2 more weeks
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>>584440667
>double sized panda looks completely out of place
She looks out of place because she's next to three characters who just don't look like they fucking belong. Four if you want to count bronzebeard
Tess, Shandris, and Anduin (especially with that odd-looking facial hair) just don't look like god damn leaders. They look more like a modern DnD party lineup
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>>584441098
this is the most boring story shit ever. Metzen would do some cool comic book xmen wh40k shit
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>>584440964
As long as he's part of alliance, he won't die.
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>>584441098
>So what was the hag council thinking?
lindsay clancy tiktoks and palestine allegory
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>>584441027
really?
is he still back in the past with krasus and brox during vanilla's timeline or something?
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>>584441245
>Metzen would do some cool comic book xmen wh40k shit
Metzen would suck off green niggers and pretend like they wuz poor victimz n shiet
you metzoid simps need to kill yourselves ASAP
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>>584441265
>lindsay clancy
Is Alleria going to kill Arator and blame Turalyon?
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>>584441098
The way they wrote the entire conflict this expansion, it's that nobody cares about it at all and everyone on both sides just blame Zul'jin for everything. The Amani have no real beef with the elves and just hate Zul'jin and the elves obviously hate Zul'jin so as soon as the one troll that liked Zul'jin is dead they're able to come together in peace and friendship
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what are your pronouns
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>wow 1.0 ends in wrath
>wow 2.0 ends in legion
>trooncraft currently in year 10
grim
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>>584441384
Stickney..
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>>584441336
I don't think the old books are part of Forever canon. Only WC1–WC3.
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>>584440495
Amazing how they have not ruined velen yet
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>>584440964
What if Arator and Alleria were to perish, but Turalyon survived yet again? Would that outcome suit you?
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>>584441712
>>Have not ruined Velen yet
>EREDAR, WELCOME TO ZE ALLIANCE.
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They really think they can pull of a new fresh start, the new beginning with Forever and people would forget their actions or how they destroyed retail WoW with their bullshit.
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>worst posters in wowg
>qyurryus
>nochesty
>pandafag
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>>584441265
>palestine allegory
extremely funny that their message then is that Israel did nothingwrong and that there can only be peace once all the Palestinians that don't like Israel are killed and the Palestinians apologize to Israel for being mean
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>>584441712
>they have not ruined velen yet
But they did, turning him into Illidan's lackey in Legion.
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Well this patch was a complete nothing burger.
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>all this rage about Lady Liadrin dying unceremoniously on a cavern floor for no reason in a .1.7 patch
>no rage about Lorthremar saying it's right for the trolls to have her body, and then apologising for colonising troll land, and then the troll queen humiliating him for his apology
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>>584441712
>"You man'ari fucks have hunted us across the stars and chased us to every world we retreat to and try to start anew on."
>"But hey, you said sorry, guess you can join the Alliance with us!"
>"Not like your former master was THE DECEIVER or anything!"
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>>584441772
No because that would obviously make him lightblinded and a raid boss
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What new lorerape will we be getting in 12.2, anons?
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>>584441465
>wow 2.0 ends in legion
wod**
legion is the start of wow 3.0
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Blood elves are le evil colonizers and decolonization of Amani lands, anyone else hate commiefornia so much?
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>>584441939
>>584442058
The trolls get nothing out of it so literally every side is pissed off lmfao
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>only thing during the expac receal I was really interested in was the labyrinth
>by the time it comes out I don’t even want to waste my time logging in

I heard it’s shit and buggy and gives shit rewards too.

Forever waiting room indeed.
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>>584442020
Turalyon dies in the final raid. Alleria lives on and becomes a carpet muncher.
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>>584442020
The Azeroth World Soul is actually a prime Naaru and that everyone thinking they had connections to Azeroth or whatever the fuck is actually just being embraced by the Light, because the Light is apparently the only cool and good thing in this universe and definitely totally not evil and controlling.
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>>584439861
Still funny he got removed from power because of a gay jew's power fantasy in the gaming business.
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>>584442120
Turlyon dying at this point wouldn't be lore-rape, it'd be giving what Turalyon fans have been begging for the last 10 years.
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I would love an interview with one of the writers, for them to explain how exactly things got so bad and why they can't write something decent to save their lives (and why Forsaken Kingdoms can actually get decent narrative and characters, but it's somehow impossible in WoW).
I know, keeping a setting alive for more than 20 years, with a constant need for events and following the whims of the higher ups isn't easy...but that still doesn't explain the shit show we have been getting for years.
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>>584441789
That's based though
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>>584442120
with liadrins newly re-oprhaned daughter
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>>584441789
THANKS VELEN
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>>584442310
Bros, I'm starting to think Velen had the right idea letting them in...
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>>584442212
>and why Forsaken Kingdoms can actually get decent narrative and characters
Girls don't play rts games. The story wasn't written for them.
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>>584442310
Velen knows what's best
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>>584442212
that interviews contents:
>duhhhhhh bauhhahpppfppffpfffffftltltfpfpft
>balhp topllllllllffffffftptpff duhuh duhhhhhh
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>>584442212
>(and why Forsaken Kingdoms can actually get decent narrative and characters
I'm a little turn on this because its definitely got some major flaws to it, but I can't tell if I'd legitimately call it 'good' because its very hard to tell if I'm just doing that comparing to the shitshow that is Modern warcraft writing.
I can definitely say its the best thing written in quite a while, but that's a reeeeaaaally low bar.
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>>584442212
Anon the big twist is that they don’t think what they’re writing is bad and they also think you’re a dumb chud who doesn’t matter if you don’t like it.
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When did Horde players develop the huge victim complex that they used to mock the Alliance for back when the faction imbalance was at its worst?
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>>584442643
The current state of the writing are people pointing out how shit it is and that tangentially they seem terrified of killing off Alliance characters while Alliance fans go "I DON'T CARE IF IT'S SHIT AS LONG AS HORDEKEKS ARE TRIGGERED I'LL GLADLY EAT SHIT ALL DAY LONG"
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>>584442643
Horde didn't develop a victim complex. Unlike the Alliance the Horde fanbase has a level of awareness and can notice the devs clearly hate them.
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>>584442643
They had it too good during the Cata + MoP era and got too cocky now that the current devs are all women who play Alliance
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>>584442212
>Forsaken Kingdoms can actually get decent narrative and characters
spoiler but it was actually made by some hiveworkshop users.
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>>584442643
They've had it since Turajo, it's so bad they literally think this is an alliance expansion.
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Faction pride is incredibly brown coded.
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>>584442720
>Horde didn't develop a victim complex
>Multiple threads whining about the deaths of some literal whos like Zul'jin and Liadrin
kek
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>>584442882
As if the Alliance didn't spend three whole expansions crying over a tree being burned down
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>>584442618
It was pretty generic. It had like, the basic ingredients for a meal but no garnish or spice or sauce.

“It’s edible” is indeed the high water mark for modern blizzard writing.
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>>584441712
>>584441789
>>584442310
velen just loves red meat
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>>584442831
Agreed, my fellow Kezanite
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>>584442882
>game permanently raped from night elves screaming and crying about Teldrassil
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>>584443000
>It was pretty generic
I'll take generic fantasy over woke slop any day.
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>>584442952
>>584443049
>Mixing up Night Elf players with Alliance players.
Elf fans are a different breed.
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https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/netflix-layoffs-1000-employees-1236911239/
OG IN SHAMBLES

HOME

RIDING HOME

THE END OF WORLO
THE
END
OF
WOW
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>>584443049
burning that tree really was the dumbest thing blizzard could have done desu
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>>584443049
>>584442952
Night elf fags don't even like the Alliance and want to become a third faction.
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>>584443161
>Nooo it wasn't us guys, it was just the Night Elf fans!
Certified blue boy moment.
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>>584443049
You faggots have been crying about Taurajo for like 15 years, image if horde actually lost a major city.
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>>584442618
Forsaken Kingdom is far from good writing, especially Garek's Marvel-tier conversion to Light out of nowhere. And his sacrifice as a setup for Forsaken Paladins was as lame as it could have gotten - not because of the carifice itself, but the sudden 'maybe Light is just fine' narrative being now core of Forsaken identity. Which, as we all remember, as the first step toward modern Forsakens' victimhood narrative.

The only positive in the campaign is his character's journey until the campaign brings in the Argent Dawn (who for whatever the fucking retarded reason already recognise Leonid Barthalomew as worthy of their organisation), and then it's all about friendship of light & darkness from there on.
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>>584443272
The Alliance got Dalaran in Forever, while we got nothing
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>>584443272
Horde lost a major city, it was called Undercity. They still don't have it back.
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>>584443269
>Spend 20 years disowning Blood Elves as not really being part of the Horde
>No one else is allowed to do that
Certified mud hut moment
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>>584443041
kek
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>>584443384
They were reclaiming it at the end of BFA after they blew it up. You also didn't do the undead armor quest, they even expanded their holdings.
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Alliancefags are the centrists of WoW discussion, they claim neutrality and unbias but sperg out the second the Horde asks for anything even if it would have zero negative impact on the Alliance
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Alliance fans will eat and defend any shit put on their plate as long as they can see it as winning against the Horde.
Game could finally start to improve if the blues got even a little bit of genuine taste.
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>>584443339
>who for whatever the fucking retarded reason already recognise Leonid Barthalomew as worthy of their organisation
They also help Sylvanas retake Lordaeron, which is incredibly stupid. And suddenly, they begin to hate the Scarlet Crusade more than the undead, even though back in Vanilla they were willing to cooperate with the Scarlets.
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>>584443515
The horde got to revamp one of their major cities and zones while alliance got nothing, draenei are still living in a broken ship from 20 years ago, yet horde still cry about this expansion and claim it's an alliance expansion because no matter how much they get, horde will always cry.
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None of the current writers (women) play Horde, you guys are just setting yourselves up for disappointment expecting anything at all anymore.
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You know we are witnessing a fake outrage, a conservative (far right) offensive against retail WoW when their only argument is "old good new bad"
>please leave Retail and play boomer WoW (we call it WoW forever, it's literally Vanilla WoW)
>Please leave Retail and play boomer Warcraft III
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>>584443672
They all do, even that gay grandma plays horde and shouts for the horde.
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>>584443672
>None of the current writers (women) play Horde
cause women find fags disgusting
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>>584442683
Is this how I should use a broom?
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>>584442813
Genuinely how the fuck is it not an alliance expansion.
What the hell is an orc? What’s a “darkspear troll”? Forsaken who? Anyway, we the blood elves must forgive the alliance’s war crimes in Dalaran because uhhhh purple torso guys are too spooky I guess
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>>584443825
Then why did they puss out making that event gay and leave all the fags to the Alliance characters you're forced to interact with?
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>>584444127
It's not an Alliance expansion because only 4/5ths of Silvermoon were the Alliance given access to.
Can you stop being such a chud and accept that it's Horde?
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>>584444127
>Blood Elves main characters
>Trolls main characters
>Horde saves Azeroth (lol)
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>>584444127
>Genuinely how the fuck is it not an alliance expansion.
Not them but you're fucking retarded, it literally all about the blood elves, most of the side stories, the zones, the setting, the main characters, even the alliance adjacent characters only exist in this story because they are related to silvermoon, Arator grew up in Silvermoon with the blood elves and worships Sylvanas. You are absolutely retarded to think this is an alliance expansion, it's actually crazy how delusional you are.
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>>584444127
Because Lor'themar hasn't died and Alleria/Vereesa hasn't been proclaimed Queen of Silvermoon (yet).
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It's an Arator and void elf expansion. Factions are irrelevant.
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>>584439848
I'd rather have Danath and Genn dying in BfA than to see what nublizz did to them in Troonflight and TWW
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As if Alliance players care about the chance to stroll through Silvermoon.

We want Lordaeron.
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>DOOD IT'S ABOUT THE BLOOD ELVES, THE BLOOD ELVES ARE PUSHING THE STORY FORWARD. LOOK AT THE BLOOD ELVES CALLED UMBRIC, ALLERIA, HER EX BOYFRIEND TURALYON, THEIR HALF BREED SON ARATOR
Alliance fans really do just live in a different world.
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>bellular is having a field day with the current state of retail
fuck the grifters and fuck the devs
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>>584444127
>>584444335
>>584444357
You're all retarded, it's nobodies expansion.
Where are the Horde and Alliance?
What role have they played?
It's just light faggots and Elves with no factional distinction addressing among them.
The small mention of Alliance in the city amounted to absolutely nothing.
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I'm old enough to remember how during BFA everyone would whine non stop about what a shit character Liadrin is.

How retarded it was that she was the underling of the Paladin player during Legion, and then in BFA she's eager to kill her Alliance Paladin boss and happily joins Sylvanas in genociding the night elves, even recruits the Nightborne to help genocide Alliance races.

In the end she got away with everything without even a "i'm sad and regret my genocides :(" cutscene.
And i'm also old enough to remember how a few months ago during Midnight reveal you chuds whined non stop about her ugly hideous manface.

Now that she's dead you're all pretending she was a beloved awesome character everyone cared about? Bitch please. Horde players are mentally ill, why do they keep comitting genocides, getting away with it and then going "wtf why my evil bitch died like a dumb evil bitch!?"
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>>584443672
It's not like the Alliance is having fun anyway...their characters don't die, but they also don't do anything interesting (I always found weird how Alliance-players were against having inner turmoil inside the faction... because that only leaves you with the most boring stories possible, if they even bother to give you stories at all).
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>>584444568
Remember when she was like "go kill that neutral medic lol" in that BFA world quest?
What a cunt lmao
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>>584443208
this nigga reads VARIETY lmao
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>>584441941
Should have joined the Horde
Reformed monsters trying to make up for their misdeeds
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>>584444568
>And i'm also old enough to remember how a few months ago during Midnight reveal you chuds whined non stop about her ugly hideous manface.
That there is exactly why I think they killed her off.
Some fat and ugly trans bitch got very upset that people had to call out the design of her in the cinematic for not making the fantasy race as attractive as they're supposed to be and is just having a spiteful mental break to kill the 'flawless beautiful elf woman' people wanted because it doesn't represent them.
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>>584444465
>HER EX BOYFRIEND TURALYON
What exactly did he do throughout the duration of the expansion? During the intro, Liadrin commanded the Army of the Light. She played a pivotal role in the storyline involving the Amani. Turalyon, meanwhile, did nothing but whine to Lor'themar, and then lost consciousness during the Voidspire raid.
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>>584444465

You fully got away with genociding the night elves in BFA. You also genocided the Worgen in Cataclysm.
Despite that, you were allowed in Bel'amath and new Gilneas.

Meanwhile Alliance is killed on sight on a city they are saving owned by a race that used to be in the Alliance, were saved ONLY BY THE ALLIANCE during TBC and were gonna betray the Horde and join the Alliance in Mist of Pandaria.

Funny how the Alliance is killed on sight even in neutral expansions, and in "war" expansions they are just genocided without a chance to fight back, while the Horde gets to do their Darkspear Dash pride parades in Bel'amath after burning Teldrassil.

Go masturbate to getting all the fuck you want like brown orcs and vulpera and zandalari while Alliance got fucking diaper gnomes and fat humans.
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Most of the people acting like this is an Alliance expansion are making the mistake of thinking the likes of Alleria and Arator are Alliance characters. They may have been once but these days they are just their own bland thing.

Even Turalyon who is supposed to be leading the Alliance while Anduin is off doing fuck all was only there to lead a load of neutral paladins and chase after his wife. At no point has any non-Elf race from either faction had anything of note to do. It's an Elf expansion if anything. Even though they've finished the work of ruining Blood Elves that started at the end of TBC.
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>>584444568
>Now that she's dead you're all pretending she was a beloved awesome character everyone cared about?
No, she was a shit character and this expansion made her much worse, I'm glad she's dead but her death was still retarded and horribly written, it came out of nowhere.
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>>584444662
We would never be so blessed
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>>584444460
You people already made them ruin Sylvanas. The moment they allow Alliance anywhere near Undercity, I bomb Blizz headquarters (in Minecraft).
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Now she's dead can Astalor return to the Blood Knights to give them their edge back.
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>>584444803
Here we go the same ol if a Horde character is on screen, it's Horde and clearly blizzard is biased towards the Horde.
If an Alliance character is on screen, they're not actually Alliance. You see they're really neutral, thus Blizzard hates the Alliance.
It's the same excuse every expansion with the blues.
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>>584444879
No, but Arator will step up and become their new leader.
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>>584443672
Stickney mains a blood elf rogue since at least WotLK
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>>584444568
>I'm old enough to remember how during BFA everyone would whine non stop about what a shit character Liadrin is.
I even remember memes about Turalyon executing her. Good times.
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>>584444568
that pretty much summarizes all the shit writing, which is what people are angry about
utterly ruined character with potential for much more
no one is angry towards a fictional character... right?
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>literal who
>Zul'jin
kek
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>>584444879
Astalor is turning evil and becoming the delve nemesis next patch lol
Arator will become God-Boy-King of all elvenkind
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I didn't see a single Horde player have not even an inch of pity when Malfurion was killed off at the beginning of Dragonflight, they were all cheering actually.

But now that this foid (literally the 2nd foid to die in the history of warcraft after killing off 9999 men) dies i'm supposed to go "oh no poor horde players who kill me on sight on the capital i'm saving :( they don't deserve their chud faced bitch killed"
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>>584444931
Pretty sure her self insert/OC is a void elf, infact that entire race is her idea IIRC
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>>584444991
They already said that he's just getting bonked and won't die in the Nemesis delve.
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>>584444894
What's on screen most of the time is blood elves and the blood elf city
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>>584445096
That might be even worse, now he will apologize for his edginess and swear to be a good boy that worships hope and healing like everyone else
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>>584444969
anon probably meant zul'jan
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nice bugged patch. they clearly are all in on Forever and have this trash on maintenance mode
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>entire patch is about blood elves, trolls and arator who got retconned into being a half horde character (raise in silvermoon and personally trained by lor'themar himself)
>saaaaar it's an alliance expansions saaaar saaaaar
hordecucks have unironically lost the plot and went full schizo
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>>584445052
we wanted turalyon to die, but noooooo
let's kill another horde char
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>>584444568
That's why I hate the Horde so much. And that's why the writing is bad.

The Horde is evil.

And not once have they been held accountable for their actions. The worst atrocities are never even mentioned, and the Horde’s leaders always get off without a scratch.

>muh dead leaders
Death isn’t a punishment, whether in the game or in real life. Standing trial and being found guilty (or not) of the crimes you’ve committed, then serving your sentence (which means staying alive) is how you make amends for the heinous acts you’ve committed. That’s how it works in real life: you do something wrong, you’re found guilty, you serve your sentence, and then you’re considered to have paid your debt and can be reintegrated into society.

In WoW, the Horde’s worst monsters are never punished. They all die, yes, but they always escape judgment and punishment. So Liadrin, the torturer of the Naaru and perpetrator of the Draenei genocide, escaped her punishment by dying a heroic death.
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>>584445273
Arator worships Sylvanas too and likes her better than his own mother.
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I feel like i'm having an aneurism seeing Forever shills talk about how shit Retail writing is and how glad they are that Forever won't put up with all that

BITCH. IT'S FUCKING BETA AND ALL THE FOREVER NEW QUESTS ARE LITERALLY ABOUT SAVING LGBT CHARACTERS, even Mankirk wife fucking appears to reveal she's a dyke and that he needs to forgive and love Quillboars.
There's a fucking 30 USD blue elf race with pure retail writing and retail disney artstyle.
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>>584444328
And that Blood Elf content is about them having to apologize for their heccin’ bigotry and open their borders to Void Elves and High Elves who have done nothing but treat them like trash since forever.
The Amani are a Horde dilemma 90% of the Horde aren’t weighing in on.
The climax of the story will be Xal’atath winning and us screaming for Alleria and Turalyon to save us.
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How was Arator meant to have been trained by Lor'themar/Liadran if he was raised by Rhonin and Vereesa in Dalaran?
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>>584445052
>Killed off at the start of Dragonflight.
You mean the "death" where the writers had to come out during the beta in a interview and say he's not actually dying but was just going to the SL and will come back with more powers

Oh yes, poor Malfurion. Once again the Alliance had it so hard.
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>>584445382
>Arator worships Sylvanas too and likes her better than his own father
Fixed for ya. Arator like all the Windrunners. He only hates his father.
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>>584445459
by the power of retcons
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>>584445370

Yes we're well aware brown horde players want all Alliance characters to die and you already got your wish with several expansions allowing you to genocide Alliance races and destroy Alliance cities and then be forgiven without the Alliance having a chance to punch back.

Congrats for wanting the straight white male WC 2 protagonist killed, retard.
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>>584445492
When is he going to join the family business and find a human cock to jump on?
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>>584444960
this wasnt even that long ago dude
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>>584443384
>Horde lost a major city, it was called Undercity
and who caused that?
LMAO
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>>584445459
Garrosh is a lorelet. Not really surprise.
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>>584445459
https://youtu.be/QKVSzP_sEU8?si=KAbxCWddfsVYs0Js
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>>584445576
>this wasnt even that long ago dude
it has actually been over 8 years
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>>584445459
Because they had to heavily retcon his entire history, as well as Liadrins and Lor'themars just to plop him into the Quel'thalas at the end of Dragonflight.
All because they wanted to justify Alleria and Turalyon being allowed to walk around Silvermoon despite Alleria previously being banned.
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>>584445370
There are like 10 billion blood elf characters this expansion and she's like the only one to die so far despite the massive void invasion.
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>>584445382
>likes her better than his own mother.

To be fair Alleria is a bitch and a deadbeat mother constantly walking out on her son and her husband.
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>>584445576
BfA was 10 years ago, anon
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summoning koragon
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>>584445381
>>584445537
>the same gnome pedophile chimps out every time anything horde is mentioned
take your meds retard
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>>584445459
>orcnigger is surprised over retarded nonsensical retcons
They've been doing this since warcraft 3 how is anybody still surprised
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>umm Lothraxion and Locus Walker don't count as alliance characters chud
>this irrelevant bitch that didn't do anything important since TBC? heckin' heart of the horde
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>>584445663

>Hyper Xally attack on the BE capital city
>not a single death
>not a single ruined wall

>Hyper Deathwing attack on Stormwind
>millions died
>half the city is destroyed
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Who the fuck ever said Lothraxion was an Alliance character?
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>>584445849
Blizzard probably does consider them Alliance characters desu
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>destroy the tree city
>destroy the flying city
why does blizzard only like to destroy the more unique cities?
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I like to think Danuser watched Metzen cut up his expansion into three, then saw the Alliance Elf cabal on the writing team start pitching to Metzen a amazing Elf focused Quel'thalas expansion which finally broke his back and made him quit before he got blamed for the shitshow about to happen
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I’m the biggest Alleria and Turalyon fan there is, but even I want them to die. That way, they’d finally be free of those granny writers. I don't want Turalyon to end up in a wheelchair and Alleria to become a lesbian.

Liadrin’s fans are incredibly lucky
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>>584424952
Is there some way to check what rank I got for the Nemesis boss? the toy doesn't seem to be displaying anything, unlike the Aztarec toy
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>even minor patches like this one are bugged to hell
what is going on at blizzard?
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Locus-Walker literally doesn't even interact with the void elves, he appears in 2 patches in the entire game and it's solely with Alleria. Calling him an Alliance character is batshit insane
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>>584446039
they made a HoF for two delve bosses in one season? mythic raiders gotta be in fucking shambles holy shit
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>>584445849
>Lothraxion
This was the worst thing that happened this expansion, a light dreadlord was the more interesting thing to come out of legion then they just kill him off in a questing zone.
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>>584446090
>Locus-Walker literally doesn't even interact with the void elves
https://youtu.be/buuDxofzsL0?si=QQIa41sELtqJ95QU
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>>584446035
>Liadrin’s fans
what fans?
where are they?
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>>584446007
>All Alliance cities
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>>584442212
>I would love an interview with one of the writers
implying the profession of 'writer' exists inside Blizzard Entertainment
you have a bunch of people get together in a 'writer's room' and they have a meeting and they 'brainstorm' and they say "wow, that's awesome!" and they pass it along the conveyor belt
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>>584446090
he's training void elves in Telogrus when you make a new velf character, you dumb horde secondary
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>Calling Zul'jan a Horde character is batshit insane
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are they putting that half orc nigger charge of horde paladins?
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>>584446007
>>584446207
yeah but muh ded hordenog "leaders"
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>>584446207
Dalaran is neutral even in Forever
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>>584446090
>Locus-Walker literally doesn't even interact with the void elves
Quite literally the dumbest thing written ITT, and that's saying something kek
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>"ummmmmmmmmmmmmm what if we ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm just try making 4 expansions at once"
>game dies
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That's enough /wowg/ for me today, time to worlo gaming
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>>584445734
>>584445623
the posts were more recent than that
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>>584446162
>what fans?
>where are they?
>literally the whole thread is angry about Liadrin's death
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>>584446448
Shouldn't he be in a pink wheelchair?
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>>584446039
Just killed it, 7900 out of 8100 as of 16:54 ST, first day of the patch on EU.

Would've been a cool boss if we weren't overgearing it to shit
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>>584446007
Lefties just like to destroy culture & history and replace it with their own ideology
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>>584446378
Nah, it's Alliance but we tolerate the Horde.
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>>584446494
I hate her and I'm glad she died but her death was retarded and just done so they could finally have a character die because the void is shit at actually killing anyone, they couldn't even damage Silvermoon. She just dies out of the blue to a literal who boss, not even from taking damage or getting impaled, just from using her power.
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>>584446494
that's just the current horde chimpout no. 55421
if Baine somehow ever dies, they will be crying over him too but you couldn't find a single Baine fan today
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>>584446378
it isn't, the fat fuck responsible for forever already said horde being allowed in is a bug and they can't earn kirin tor rep
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You know, OSRS only worked because RS3 was in the pits by the time they spun it up. They didn't deliberately kill off RS3 to focus on OSRS on day 1.
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WoW campaign content should be free tbfh
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>>584446378
No, that was a bug, it's not neutral, the horde gets the earthen ring.
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i want xal'atath to fuck alleria
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>>584446494
>confusing everyone making fun of the laughably shit writing with anyone on earth being emotionally attached to these "characters"
you are genuinely stupid as hell bro, like people in public can tell from a glance
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if you dont buy the 7 million gold mount (with wow tokens) you're not a true wow fan
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>>584446090
>Calling him an Alliance character is batshit insane

Almost as insane as considering Anduin an Alliance character when all he's done for the Alliance is forgive Saurfang, forgive Sylvanas, help Saurfang restore the Horde, and in Shadowlands he ends up running away like Elsa from Frozen fully abandoning the Alliance.

Remember guys! Sylvanas is not a horde character because she's uhhh a high elf in her dreams or something and she betrayed the horde! But Anduin is totally an Alliance character even though he keeps sucking tauren and orc cock and claps every time the horde commits a genocide.
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>>584445537
>majority of examples are forsaken
Makes you think.
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So what's her goal again? Do we even know yet?
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>Metzen returns to the company
>See how biased the writing council is for Alliance and how they only want to write Alliance
>See Forever and Retail being nothing but Allianceslop for the next decade
>Moves over to Warcraft 3
>Writes a love letter to the Forsaken
>Best story in the past decade from wow was focused on a Horde race.
Yep. Even Metzen knows Alliance ruined his Warcraft
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>>584447135
>image
fucking kek
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>>584447124
I preboughted with gold from Xiao, Liao and Co. Use code pikabo for a 200 yuan discount
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>>584447194
Metzen is responsible for the main story in this trilogy.
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>go to the forums to report something
>its down due to high traffic
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>>584447145

Let's start listing Orc crimes then, like how the only two instances of rape in all of WoW lore were committed by orcs. How there's a literal road in Outland paved with the bones of Draenei and how even in an alternative universe in which demons never corrupted... they still became genocidal evil maniacs trying to genocide all non orcs.

Or blood elves crimes, like exiling those not wanting to kill mana creatures, or brainwashing those who didn't want to join the horde with shadow magic mind control, or trying to finish off the remaining Draenei, or torturing a Naaru, or trying to betray the horde and join the alliance in MOP.
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>>584447135
>muh zinger from my safety anonEmoose alt
na that's a 0/10 for being a giant pussy
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>>584447194
hordetroon victim complex is something else
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>Metzen kills WoW with WoD
>Metzen quits
>WoW is saved
>Metzen returns
>Metzen kills WoW with Midnight
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>>584447194
>>See how biased the writing council is for Alliance and how they only want to write Alliance
stickney and the granny (maria hamilton) are both confirmed horde players
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>>584447194
>>Best story in the past decade from wow was focused on a Horde race.
>donut steel OC, waifubait elf and some random undead from light's hope invade naxxramas, kill all the bosses including KTZ, explode half of it while sneedvanas smirks into the camera
>le heckin' best story of the decade bro
abyssmal taste
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>>584447124
>xhe didn't farm the gold xirself
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>>584447194
already four seething Alliance replies, oh no no no
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fact: overly horde focused expansions (Cata, WoD, SL, Midnight) always end up being a total disaster
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>/v is laughing at us again

Sisters...
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>>584447194

Metzen is a male feminist who encouraged the team to charge 30 usd for blue blood elves.
His new warcraft 3 campaign has Garithos join the horde as an undead to punish him for being heckin' racist.
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>>584447157
To become Azeroth
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>>584447870

>the midnight horde focus in question:
1 quest where you talk to 5 npcs in arathi
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>>584447689
>doing all this retarded shit every week just to get gapped by me just spending 30-60 minutes weekly
legit suicide angle holy shit
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Jimothy save us all.
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can't wait for alliance chimpout when picrel dies
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.
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14.0 will be Different.
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>>584448748
kek
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>tunak tunak tun dance
more like jeet forged
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>>584448421
But then we can his get half-human/half-draenei son to stand in front of the throne just like he did
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> Turalyon is the hottest daddy since Varian and Genn
> Zero gay porn of him fucking his slutty gay son Arathor

Why? At least let Arathor rim his dad...
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>>584449128
fags don't like zealots
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>>584426287
>>584426336
Biggest proof of antifurs maliciousness btw that can't follow board rules
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>>584447194
>Blizzcon 2023, he was the one introducing worldsoul saga and it's epic storytelling
>not introducing wc3
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>>584449075
ong it shouldve been tung tung tung sahur dance for your zommer ahh am I deadass?
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Anyone else worried that if For*ver performs well they will continue to take talent from the Retail team to work on it?
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>>584449258
this, Turalyon causes enormous seething to hordefags and pozzies for over a decade despite barely doing anything at all
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>>584449359
>Retail team
>talent
only if they can leash them, if forever flops, pajeeta CEO will fire half of blizzard
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>>584449359
no, Forever is just a cheap asset flip for them to make a quick buck. Retail will always be the passion project.
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> REEE BLIZZARD HATES US HORDE PLAYERS! So what if we get everything we want and we win every single war and genocide whoever we want!?!? WE'RE HATED.
>> But i will never stop playing i just bought the heckin new 99 USD horsey uwu
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>>584449359
it's the same retards working on it
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>>584449464
>gay centaurs are passion project
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why are the alliance trannies melting today?
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>>584449359
i mean, have you seen the quality of the latest retail patches? they can take the "talent" away and it would be as bad
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>>584449548
A Horde character died. And thus the Alliance have suffered the indignancy of watching Horde have a problem with that, thus, the death of Liadrin was more taxful on the Alliance than the Horde
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>>584449548
oh it aren't alliance chuds who are "melting" today
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>>584444568
sand nigger terrorist rapist at blizzard did so much damage to the lore

they hired him as a story guy because he raided with tigole in everquest and his character name was Fuher? Should have deported his ass back to iran.
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>>584449656
How's B*al holding up?
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>>584449548
>>584449656
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>>584449359
Here's your Forever dev
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>>584449763
he's been losing it lately
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>>584449656
yes you're melting an spamming the same screencaps from the expansion announcement what happened?
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>>584449853
the absolute state
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PICREL KILLED LIADRIN!
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>>584450054
>>584438465
Grannies and Trannies is World of Warcraft's core identity
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>>584449853
horde fags are literally demented
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>>584446494
I'm not angry. She kinda flops over. Pointless death.
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Faction shitflinging feels like a distraction that WoW's presentation has become so horrendous it's almost like nothing but anti-climaxes
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>>584447194
>metzcucks still simping for that hack fraud
Reminder that retard literally forgot what he himself wrote
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>>584449853
man I hope I kill myself before I get to redditposting on twatter about fantasy game races killing each other being racist or something
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>>584450274
>Uther flops
>Bolvar flops
>Maraad flops
>Tirion flops
Has any paladin in WoW ever died a cool death?
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>>584449853
yes we know that the horde are mudhut dwelling violent subhumans
why is this guy acting like this is a recent thing
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>>584450517
Arthas
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>>584450372
Metzen wrote the Forskaen Kingdom and advised Forever team
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>>584450517
Being a Paladin is a death sentence in and of itself, the only one left alive is Turalyon lmao
I miss Maraad....
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>>584450575
arthas was a FOTM reroller
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>>584450656
>metzturd wrote for troonever
explains why it's shit
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>>584449548
Because shit like this reminds them that they've raped the game beyond belief and try to pass the blame onto the Horde, even though Blizzard has been kicking the Horde in the balls over and over again ever since Cataclysm by killing Cairne in a book.
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I don't get it sisters...Blizzard said Midnight was THE biggest expansion since Legion...
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I...I just learned my wife has been using the one button function for almost the whole expansion.
I feel lied to and betrayed. Should I divorce her?
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>>584450575
*braap* *puff*
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>>584450517
Alexandros?
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>>584450656
>Metzen wrote the Forskaen Kingdom

"I'm sorry for being racist, death to all white male humans!"
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>>584450947
>"I'm sorry for being racist, death to all white male humans!"
I mean that's what horde players consider good writing, it's faction for people like baal
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>>584450667
>the only one left alive is Turalyon
He 100% dies in Eclipse
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>>584450947
WOAH
METZSHIT KINO
TIME TO DRINK DEMONCUM AND BLAME SOMEBODY ELSE FOR MY ACTIONS
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>>584450993
Something good... please...
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>>584451078
>TIME TO DRINK DEMONCUM AND BLAME SOMEBODY ELSE FOR MY ACTIONS
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>>584450993
why are worgs on here 3 times? kinda biased
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>>584450876
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>Uh, no chuddy. The Forsaken taking a guys head and turning him into a abomination is bad writing because that character was literally me!
Alliance sisters, aren't you the ones who insist the Forsaken must be written as Nazis who do comedically evil shit?
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>>584450993
I want to fuck 8 in the ass so bad
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EVERYTHING IS METZEN'S FAULT
HE IS STOPPING THE HAG COUNCIL FROM SAVING WOW
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>>584450993
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>>584450656
>>584450947
>punch Garithos the nazi on the face, guide them to make blue donutsteel DLC elves and make queer storylines
Metzen really lost it
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TALISION LOVES THE NEW STORY

https://files.catbox.moe/1pnrhu.mp3
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>>584451109
Hell yeah.
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>>584451273
>there are people that thought metzen coming back would be a good thing
>when he was responsible for cata
lmeow
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God damn it
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So another legacy Horde character finally gets some spotlight and then is killed off in an embarrassing and downright insultingly pathetic way. This one might even top Vol'jin for how bad it is.

I honestly stopped caring about the plot and lore years ago since these American hacks have done an amazing job at butchering the entire universe they inherited from their betters. But this has left an incredibly sour taste. Is there really nobody left at Blizzard with any kind of sense who can say that it's a bad idea? Or do they have to go along with a committee of failed writers because democracy rules or some bullshit?
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>>584450517
Alexandros Mograine had a pretty cool death
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>>584451242
>projecting hordefag
many such cases
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>Liadrin died to save the no shoe mudhutters that massacred her people
Name a more humiliating death
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>>584451168
>>584450876
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>>584451457
Nigger you don't even like the game, you're only here because Asmongold plays it.
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>>584451273

It's weird how every time there has to be LGBT representation it's always boring dykes.
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>>584451347
Cata, WoD... Then quits, comes back for Dragonflight, gives it a cringe marvel endgame ending cinematic, then proceeds to kill the game with worldslop saga

Simply incredible how much damage one guy can create
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>>584451450
>stabbed in the back by his own son
idk
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>>584451450
wrong image
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>>584451425
>legacy Horde character

So you agree she deserved to die for her actions in BFA?
You don't get to have a horde character who participated in genocides and gets away with everything.
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>>584451425
Warcraft is an American game you fucking retard. The difference is that there are no more straight white men with agency left at the company.
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>>584451536
Truth is that it's very likely trannies behind it. Every yurifag I know grew up to be a 3/4X year old stubbled tranny who believes he's a lesbian.
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>>584451517
>implying I watch assmongloid
I have better things to do than waste my time watching e-celebs but you are correct I don't like this game because the writing is horrendous and always was and hordeniggers can't stop crying as they get away with everything they do like the niggers that they are.
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>>584450876
>>584451168
>>584451502
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The best thing retail has over Forever is Gussy. Enough said.
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>>584451582
Don't forget all of Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3
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>>584451536
For WoW specifically it's actually gays 90% of the time. DF alone has like 4 different gay couples by the start of the 2nd zone
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>muh asmongoloid out of nowhere
truly when you speak to one hordetroon you have spoken to them all
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>>584449853
>the fictional physically-fit braindead orcs that live in mudhuts are definitely black people!!!1
if they themselves are admitting it then it's not racist, right?
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>>584451536
It starts with dykes and then it spreads when nobody notices.
Soon there will be gays and literal trannies.
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>>584451742
> It's gays 99% of the time
> Can only name 2 centaurs
lmao.
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>>584451839
Black Nationalism is ok
White nationalism is bad
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>>584451839
Kodo jockeys in SHAMBLES
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>>584451839
you're clearly triggered
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>>584451687
You sound like a redditor.
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>>584451740
>>584451582
I still can't believe he had Raynor just straight up kill Tychus in SC2 after the shit Kerrigan did in SC1 and thought that was good story telling.
Then again he thought WoD and Cata were good stories so....
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>>584451425
>legacy Horde character
Who did absolutely nothing since TBC and was insufferable in Midnight. She deserved to die.
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>>584451839
Blizzard employees HATE Asmongold for speaking the truth about teh game.
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>>584451881
>The gay centaurs
>The gay humans that gave you crafting quests
>Flynn and Matthias
>The two stags in Shadowlands
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>>584451839
>14k likes
How?
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>>584451963
She mogged menopause Tyrande in Legion and was largely responsible for convincing the Night Elf rip-off race to join the Horde where they were promptly forgotten about afterwards
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>>584451881
Gay dragonkin couple that you play bubbles with in Waking Shores
Gay crafting tutorial couple in Waking Shores
Gay frog couple in that one open world event in Waking Shores
And yes, gay centaurs
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>>584452087
twitter kodo jockey community
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>>584451943
It was worse in Heart of the Swarm where he outright forgives Kerrigan after she, once again, becomes Queen of Blades rendering everything he did in WoL moot. And not only does he forgive her he still loves her and they have a longering lovers gaxe as Kerrigan literally flies off like an angel.
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>>584451839
except the alliance did 9/11 by opening the dark portal t
and the horde invaded
therefore alliance is taliban and horde is america
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>>584451938
All Alliance players are Redditors for playing the le goody two-shoes faction that their mongoloid king also plays
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Can you skip the new campaign with alts?
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>>584452146
Holy fuck I forgot about the gay frogs completely
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>>584452213
grim desu
what getting divorce raped does to a man i guess
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>Narman and Dawa currently on topic
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>>584452162
That's why the writers will kill Turalyon. He is the last het white male in the game.
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>new decor items from vulpera vendor
>new anvil
>think to myself "oh cool!"
>place it down
>it got weird lines and errors all over it
oh ok
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>>584452389
>>584452146
>centaurs
>literal degenerates, birthed from a demigod and rock monster
>key racial traits (canon): ugly, stupid, aggressive
>make them gay
fascinating
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>>584451881
Shaw and Flynn
Stellagosa and Valtrois
Zul'jarra and Ral'ji
Chromie
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>killed kinder'janny on the third pull
This passes for a nemesis in midnight......?
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>>584452590
are the gay ones in the DF zones even cenarius' sons?
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>>584452408
> Turalyon
> Straight
No man is really straight.
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>>584451695
It was an American game made by American nerds who ripped quite heavily on British Warhammer but with a few twists. The American nerds then aged out and were replaced by American millennials and later zoomers from the California area who grew up not with Warhammer or old fantasy like Conan; but with Harry Potter, Homestuck and internet fan fiction. The absolute farthest you could get from what made Warcraft and Warhammer popular.
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>>584452693
All of the content is basically irrelevant because of the patch cycle.
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I'm rolling Horde and I'm not sorry about it. Alliance has too many leftist pricks to enjoy.
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>>584452590
dragon isle nu-centaur aren't children of theredras
when someone asked blizzard about it, they basically said "oh they just exist because we thought centaurs are cool"
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>>584452675
> Names dykes and trannies and a biscum
lmao.
Where the actual gays at?
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>>584452854
>x exists because we think it's "cool"
and that's one of the big reasons why this game has gone downhill
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>>584452750
>>584452854
wow
that's gay
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>>584452791
>The blue-coded faction is filled with blue-pilled leftist retards
You don't say
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I haven't played WoW since I beat March on Queldanas, and although I enjoyed Midnight I got tired of it. Is it worth it to come back now?
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>>584452995
no
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>>584453006
Ardenweald has fallen.
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>>584453006
>mfw I forgot about the gay night warrior deer or whatever the fuck that bullshit was
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>>584452758
>No man is really straight.
He falls in love with Alleria, captivated by her beauty, elegance, and femininity. In the book, he even thinks that, compared to her, all human women are ugly ogres.
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>>584452981
baal and his entire cabal is horde althoughbeit
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BFA Horde was the coolest it had ever been.
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>>584453215
I don't care about this retarded nobody on Twitter, gay nigger
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>>584453190
>He falls in love with Alleria, captivated by her

By her being a butch with a manly personality?
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>>584452981
>trans children
I don't really give a shit about people pretending they're women/men or whatever, but I do not believe adults should be able to transition into children.
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>>584453190
>all human women are ugly ogres
I mean that's simply based and true
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>>584453190
the two wc2 novels were really nice, i might read them again desu
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Alliance really are the Jews of wow. Something bad could happen to the Horde and they'll always find a way to spin it into the Alliance are the real victims.
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>>584453326
>By her being a butch with a manly personality?
Tbf in WC2 she was much younger and hotter
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>>584453472
>10000 year old elf
20-30 years is a rounding error, not "younger and hotter"
???
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>>584453412
Night Elves literally kvetch if you bring up Teldrassil.
>OY VEY, REMEMBER DA 6 GORILLION NPCS
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Do horde players ever stop crying?
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>>584453472
That fucking hideous claymation art style from that one SL cutscene never ceases to make me cringe
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>>584453472
damn alleria looked so nice there, why the fuck did they ruin her?
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>>584453697
blame Dave Greco
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>>584453190
>all human women are ugly ogres
fag
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turning alleria into some ugly dyke was a good choice since alliance retards are hideous gays anyway
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>>584453412
>Alliance really are the Jews of wow.

Didn't the Horde commit multiple genocides and then acted sad about it so they had to be forgiven?
Sounds very jewy to me...
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>>584453697
that's sneedvanus from SL, not Alleria
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>>584453850
>But what about the 6million Night Elves, Oy Vey!
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>on the cusp of giving up on the mount and taking my 3mil to next expansion
>arcantina weekly
you sons of bitches
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>>584453838
>le baal faction face
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>this is acceptable model in a 2026 game
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>>584453912
>b-but muh camp taurajo!!!!!!!!!!!
hordeniggers really are retarded
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>Horde bias is just that Horde get torn apart onscreen more
This remains evergreen
Horde expansion btw
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>>584453947
I can't wait until this faggot kills himself
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>>584453968
>uv-unwrapping? no thanks I work for blizzard
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>>584453968
Vulpera for Forever confirmed!
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>>584453968
This has to be broken lmao
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>I know! Lets kill off one of our few remaining characters for no reason at all other than thats what the TV shows and movies I watch do and it works for them!!!
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>b-but Wrathgate! Teldrassil! Theramore! Plaguing Lordaeron! The Horde killed us!!!!
Yes. My only regret is that the shit writing stopped us from killing even more Alliancekeks.
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gonna mog illidan blindfold on all of my characters in 12.2.5
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>>584453968
Nice normals holy hell.
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/receive-2-mounts-for-12-month-subscription-new-subscription-bonuses-383418
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>everyone shitting on Liadrin for the whole of Midnight
>she gets killed off
>NOOOO NOT MY HECKIN' BELOVED LEGACY CHARACTERINO, BLIZZ STOP DOING ME A FRIGHTEN!
idk seems kind of like a fake reaction to me
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>>584454462
>recolors
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>584454237
This has been their logic since Cataclysm and it's failed miserably every single time. The writers are fucking obsessed with Game of Thrones and Marvel, it's so extremely obvious. They wonder why Forever is so well-received, and it's because none of their most beloved characters are dead.
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>some dude raging in labyrinth chat that using the toy that says will end your run ended his run
Is this the power of the melvin?
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>>584454462
RESUB
COMMIT TO 1 MORE YEAR OF SLOP
BUY THE PIG
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>>584454621
>most beloved characters are dead
yet
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>>584452064
There was gays in the BFA cinematic thts when the rot started. also BFA had an entire zone dedicated to a gay guy.
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>>584454573
because Blizzard just decided to character assassinate her, and then actually assassinate her
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>>584453968
looks mobile slop game
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why would they kill Turalyon? He's telling alliance bigots to race mix and co exist.
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>>584454786
there were no gays in BfA until 8.3 when Afrasiabi got fired
rumors around that the original person who he was interested in at the start of BfA was Valeera, before the troon takeover
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>>584455075
>he
meant Shaw
>>
>release new patch
>dundun stops spawning in delves
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>>584454925
>to race mix and co exist.
yeah with hot elf girls
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>>584454287
alliancecucks are niggercattle to be slaughtered and genocided. maybe we'll get proper lore once the stickney's grannies die of heart failure.
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>Afrasiabi left Blizzard in December 2019
>Maria Hamilton joined Blizzard in January 2020
nooticing
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>>584455075

Fanfiction.
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>>584455075
There's literally a character you meet early on in BFA that is a dyke and talks about her love in some book or something
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>>584455248
>darkspear dasher melty
uh oh
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>>584454462
The mounts are shit
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>>584455260
Shut the fuck up. It's all Afrasiabi's fault. It's all Metzen's fault. The granny council are the heroes trying to save WoW from the white men that did and are continuing to ruin it.
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those that think they would kill Turalyon are retarded they will use him for propaganda to talk to black NPC's, to remarry black NPC's there is so much propaganda they can do with him. It's like if troons got access to the emperor of mankind
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>>584454287
>>584455248
uh oh melty
don't make me get paddle
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The new nemesis isn't even a boss fight. It's just a babysitting Valeera simulator
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>>584454621
>>584454743
I cant wait to see how they fuck up the “Arthas Redemption” yet again
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>>584455564
>isn't X, it's Y
get better bots
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>need to wait for catalyst charges to finish my moggie set
this sucks
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>>584456003
time to farm more content for charges, chuddy
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>>584455564
yeah I have no idea what they did to her but she's constantly on her ass now
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>>584456183
no thanks i will just wait
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Can someone gift me a 12 month suscrpition' i never played wow
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>>584456324
check your DMs
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>>584456324
get a job nigger
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>the furry zoophile keeps the xis off-topic thread alive thinking xe could link it as the next thread
No one is going to use your thread just quit trying.
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>>584456324
sent ;)
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>>584456229
They nerfed her damage resistance into the ground. Which is pretty fucking stupid when you decide to release a fight that needs her to live.
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Apologise to Shadowlands right fucking now
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gg ez
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>Uncs going in on tank specs acting like they actually beat the game.
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>>584456830
>Implying its not easier as healer cause you can afk and let valeera do fight
>>
The Last Titan will save World of Warcraft.
It will:
> Unlock all classes for all races
> Upgrade the graphics
> New customization options
> New Male Human Models
> Horde will be deleted
> Arthas will come back and kiss his boyfriend Kel'thuzad.
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>>584456704
>almost wanted to do it because I liked Revendreth and the Maw
>then I realized Pelagos exists
yeah no
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>>584456830
tank is unironically the worst role for this specific fight, nothing does damage and you die if you get hit by 3 things regardless
the only advantage is being able to get aggro on the adds more easily so they don't target valeera
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>>584456704
sigilposting was fun + we could walk on water
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>>584456948
>> Horde will be deleted
they'd never do that even if the factions stay irrelevant for the next 20 years, because if they did, some schizophrenic blood elf fag would suicide bomb blizzard campus in irvine
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>>584456948
As an alliance sissy I can say that my clitty visibly litty'd after reading your post. Let's go Blizzard!
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I don't think i'm touching Forever with a ten foot pole, ever.
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>>584456830
Kindo is actually easier as DPS with DPS Valeera.
Why? Because he does fuckall damage and you get blow his ass up before he even does anything.
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is retail worth playing without buying the latest expansion? i just subbed to wow for the first time ever. never played it.
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>>584457035
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>>584457128
just avoid NA and you'll avoid 90% of this lunacy
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I can forgive playing retail because maybe the raids are decent idk, but you people seriously still pay attention to the story? If I still played I would be mashing through everything and I was obsessed with wow lore pre-WoD
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>>584457128
>chuds are turning gay and fighting trannies
what the fuck is going on in america
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>>584456439
Have you tried not being mad?
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Wonder how big the """"Hall of Fame"""" will be. It's already twice that as Azta'rec was at this point.
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Retail devs want players to enjoy only so much content a week. You don't get rewarded for going any further than the devs allow.

Forever solves this issue by giving you rewards based on your efforts. Player 1 is content with a necklace that dropped from Hall of Thanes. Meanwhile, player 2 is content with pic related. Player 2 spent hours grinding Booty Bay rep for his reward. Why? Because the game understands that (You) want the best rewards available and are happy to work on it for hours.

In retail, both of these players would have the same reward. A fucking necklace tailor made to fit your cookie cutter build. It doesn't even feel like a reward because it isn't. It's simply there to get the players to keep playing hyper fast content that lasts only a couple weeks at a time.
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>>584457035
2021 was so good
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>>584457116
>horde player
>bizarre homosexual cuckold fantasies
always the same
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>>584457375
funny how nullaeus is the rarest one
rest are just participation trophies :3c
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When is an Alliance character gonna die of exhaustion? Preferably Malfurion
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>>584457617
that nigga is asleep 24/7 when is he ever gonna be exhausted
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> Sylvanas sat on the warchief throne and felt pride upon being the first female warchief in the Horde history

Oh nonono HAHAHAHA
Are hordies ok?
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>>584457319
insanity
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>>584457445
The horizontal thing is going to blow up in their face. Wow players are massively gearbrained.
I give it 2 raids at 60 before people start massively bitching they aren't having bigger numbers.
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>>584458012
this
14.0 will be the true metzen baby, trust the plan, keep calm and pay the sub
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>>584458012
the tragic moment where he remembered m*n still haven't gone extinct
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>>584458012
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>>584457956
if ascension WoW and Turtle WoW did horizontal progression then blizzard can.

They can always add new armor slots, professions to grind like sailing, parkour profession etc,
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>>584457445
>reputation grinding forever is not the same as reputation grinding retail
>this item with mana regen on it is revolutionary vs a retail trinket

Careful, this guy graduated from Reddit University!
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Predict the 12.2 raid ending cinematic.
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>>584457956
>>584458338

Horizontal progression is a meme. I agree with 2 raids at the most before the game goes right back to regular gear grinds. Player power is the most important thing in both Forever and retail. No cosmetics, mounts, housing decor, etc. gets players moving like gear upgrades. I argue that Blizzard HAS TO release a level 70 expansion for Forever by 2029.
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>>584458012
>>584458163
The cope happening on xitter right now with the foreverfags insisting that metzen has nothing to do with retail and he is making forever based.
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>>584458551
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>>584451536
>Hunter Narman says: Dawa! I must ask-
>Windsage Dawa says: Narman! I've brought you here to ask-
Dawa pauses for a moment in confusion and then laughs.
Narman errupts in laughter.
>Windsage Dawa says: Did we just?
>Hunter Narman says: We did. Want to get married?
>Windsage Dawa says: More than anything. I love you.
>Hunter Narman says: And I, you. More than anything
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People are just looking for any reason now to hate retail while championing forever for some reason
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I give it two tiers before 90% of Forever’s playerbase goes “Oh yea, I remember why I stopped playing 20 years ago, it became a chore!”
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>>584458976
Take Forever out of the equation entirely and retail still has major issues. There's too many to list.
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i mean i get why people hate retail. is it bad? i mean i think a lot of games exist in a sort of casualsphere where they are fun to mindlessly play even if they aren't objectively good or even fun in every metric. guild wars 2 kinda fits this criterion when you play it for the first time. i think if you are a retail wow veteran there is really not much fun to be had you know? this happened to me with runescape. you've seen it all - and you've seen your game go to shit too.

but yeah im doin a lil bit of yappin fr on god
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Without Forever the state of the WoW community would make 2021 look like peaceful and calm
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Miss me yet?
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>>584459474
>best m+ seasons
yes
i do miss
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How do you get a writing job when you don't know how to write and keep it when everyone hates your writing?
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>>584459474
I unironically do, the Dragonflight model is even worse.
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>>584459696

Be a woman.
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>>584459474
I miss torghast every day.
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>Just realized the last forever video is literally voiced by metzen because of how bad Retail has been that bad that they need to make him voice the fucking for fun videos
jesus christ this is miserable
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>>584459696
You are friends with the other writers and it's all just a massive clique of hacks protecting each other
Reminder Anne Stickney had zero writing experience or background and was a blogger that went from being hired to a narrative lead in about 2 years
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>>584459868
No way, proofs?
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>>584459696
by crying about triggers and victimhood and threatening to commit sudoku if you lose your job, you get it by being a minor hire quest writer who does an acceptable job and then getting promoted when all the actually competent men above you get fired in a fabricated scandal explictly put on as a hostile takeover of the company by feminists and troons who have neither the seniority or the funding or the skills to rise otherwise.
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>>584459696
The AAA games industry is the bottom of the fucking barrel when it comes to attracting writing talent.
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>>584458551
>azeroth-xal'atath cackle maniacally
>"you cannot stop me, champions"
>sargeras and illidan emerge through a portal
>illidan winks at you and says "you are prepared"
>more portals open and a reddit avengers tier comedic scene ensues
>"CHAMPIONS, ASSEMBLE!"
>we onions out and win
>xal'atath falls on her ass and becomes a caster dagger
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>>584459696
writing to complete the checklist of the execs.
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>>584459868
reminder that since blizzcon 2023 metzen and other team members have done nothing but downplay metzen's involvement in the worldsoul saga
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So how did Liadrin die exactly?
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>>584460464
exhaustion
i wish i was making that up
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>>584460464
Some sort of troll std
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>>584460464
She tried to hard and died.
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>>584460017
>crit mastery
>Your spells have a chance to grant one Void. Void spells generate extra Void. You cannot avoid how much Void you have
>Use: Channel the Void to deal [Numbers] unavoidable Void damage
So it's a dogshit on`use trinket. Glad I'm not playing a cuckster
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>>584460464
Cringed so hard at the story she died on the spot
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>no more dragon races because the 1 passion dev about them left the company (got fired)
its over isnt it
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>>584447157
to become feet
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Uther should come back as an undead paladin
I don't give a fuck what happened in Shadowlands
They should have had Arthas come back as an anonymous undead Paladin after he sincerely repents in the Maw
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>>584460913
>sincerely repents
repent for what
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Tank valeera cannot hold for shit now
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>>584460816
New content: Gay Invasions
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>>584442310
absolutely based
post some red babes
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>>584460816
>waaah my furry race got discontinued
where's your proper transmog lil bro? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
>uses the warlock pet rig
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>584461262
i said dragon races
not race
the dragonriding shit
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>>584460816
Same with pet battles.
If it's not world of friendshipcraft and strong independent womyn they don't want to know.
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>character on dead realm cluster can't complete arcantina weekly
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what are they going to do since there are no more expansions after tlt? is it actually over for retail?
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>>584461980
>>character on dead realm cluster can't complete arcantina weekly
are you on some non moon guard / argent dawn rp server?
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is it worth playing through any given version of wow more than one time? i genuinely don't see the point. and since wow is technically endless to some extent doesn't it mean you don't even really have to?
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>>584460816
>>584461394
Not him but I assumed the same as he did.
Yea the discontinuing of the sky races is fucking tragic they are great fun.

I always did them above other WQs to unlock a zones special event. And often did them in passing even if I didnt want the reward.
I have the majority of the racer cheevos too. downright sad they seem simple enough to make too.
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>>584462051
>what are they going to do since there are no more expansions after tlt?

What are you talking about you fucking retard they already confirmed the next expansion after TLT will be yet another Battle for Azeroth with faction war.
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>>584462073
no, and thats two in a row
the one in particular is dawnbringer i think
second one is altar of storms
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>>584460464
lorewise I think the intent is that Ki'thix is super powerful and Liadrin goes ultra light instinct in order to help us survive him and win
this just didn't work because:
1. The fight has no production value
2. Liadrin burning herself out during the fight is not gotten across very well
3. Even if Ki'thix is a prior lore baddie he's still a generic old gods model and animation rig that does not look like anything that should be killing a major lore character
4. As always they fucked up the narrative because this didn't feel like a climax to the story, it felt like a narrative addendum because the story already had a natural (shit, but natural) conclusion with Girlboss Zul'jarra mourning her brother and us heading back to Silvermoon
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>>584462290
>they already confirmed
>didn't take forever into account which actively saps development resources
retarded troon
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What sword?
What black blood?
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>>584461003
Being so obsessed with revenge on Mal'Ganis he damns his kingdom
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>>584462448
> Forever got them $99999 USD out of a beta alone
> They immediatly put that money on Retail and planning future retail expansions
> Forever won't even get SD blue elf models until 2027 february

oh nonono ahAHHAHA
Forevercels keep losing.
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>>584460464
Naaru bean counter noticed she was getting too many miracles paid out and was over budget, and implemented a correction.
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>>584462051
Full reboot into Azeroth Online Adventures
If you want World of Warcraft, play Forever
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>>584462724
damn you're scared of Forever lol
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>>584462724
>retarded troon meltie
kill yourself
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>>584462724
>2 instaseethe replies
VOLUMES
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>>584462831
> Y-you're scared of Forever!! :)
>> Forever is already abandoned by the devs

Just two weeks after release and it will be abandoned by the players the exact same way WoW Classic was abandoned.
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why did people obsess over "what sword" for years
the sword was poisoning azeroth and the strike itself wounded the planet
we dealt with the first part with that BFA questline where we drained our artifacts of power to neutralize the sword
we dealt with the second part with the Chamber of the Heart storyline in BFA
so we dealt with the sword and people kept bringing it up for 8 fucking years for some reason. Did people really need a third questline where we...mine it out of the earth, or something?
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>>584462964
so afraid
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>>584463021
nope
fuck you cunt!
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>>584462983
i don't think people noticed that even when it was completely related to the artifacts
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>>584463218
>>584463218
>>584463218
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>>584463252
>Advertised later than the other thread
>Also created way after the other thread
That is spamming/flooding no?
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>>584463358
I think it's mostly insecurity.
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>>584461980
did you know you can /toast yourself?
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move
>>583942105
>>583942105
>>583942105
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>>584463252
Thanks based baker, I'll post there.
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>>584463252
>>584463252
>>584463252
this is the thread
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>>584460464
healer?? HEALER??



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