ye olde: >>584310369>What is Wardogs?A sandbox combined-arms shooter based off of Arma 3 KotH, currently in early access.100 players across 3 teams compete to score points by having more players in the Control Zone than the other teams; backed by a persistent cash system used to buy gear and equipment that rewards players for however they opt to play.>Next cash and XP wipe: Oct 15th, coming with the major Season 2 update.Launch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQnZgZCIo8 Season 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rdbnh8P0T0 10 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkuP4a3xk4 Anti-Cheat Infohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YpSHod0FAHelpful Links:https://wardogs.zone/
>get in heli with other soldiers and go to the zone>everyone jumps out except me>i ain't paying 500 for a parachute, fuck that>pilot turns the heli back>i shoot the air and demand to be set down>pilot is flashbanged by this new sensation, having to land inside the zone>he spends 2-3 goddamn minutes trying to set us down>i jump out above the ground, get run over and killed by the heli and he blows up
Are people glitch farming something even with the xp buff??? People have mini guns and level 3 helmets what’s going on
>get a rain game>game failed to start and everyone left because they all want to play blueI love social experiments
loli feet.
The progression buffs were actually so good that people have tanks and havocs rn lol
>>584556801rain is greatfucks snipers and browning mg can sit comfy behind sandbags
>>584556958Skill issue.
>>584556958>>584556483Doom post lying? No way
I've joined about 10 servers and only 1 has successfully launched
games are chaotic and retarded again and it's fun
>>584556483Something is fucked lol
Level 3 armor is Level 70. I've been full time fobbing since release and i'm only level 30. If you see level 3, there's some kind of exploit or powerleveling method we're not aware of.
>>584557569>>584556483Someone found something there’s minigun birds and tanks already
I'm starting to get the feeling this season is going to be way worse than the last one and that I should just cancel my download
god the revolver sucks BALLS. how the fuck was it so high in the level up last season?
>>584558186Doomsissies were lined up and shot. The game is fun again.
>>584558186nah it's way better now
>rain sfx>thunder sfx>sounds muffledthe rain make the game comfy as fuck.
>join game>rainy map>leavewho asked for this ?
>game is still chock full of 200 ping gooksWhat is the ping limit then, 300? Guess they just want to make sure nobody is connecting from the fucking moon
>>584558794>>584559154Which one is true?
Okay I unlocked Verba. Time to become a MENACE
>pkm moved to level 15 from 30>saw moved to level 20 from 15So was the pkm just irredeemable dogshit or what? Isn't this like the equivalent of swapping the galil and the m4?
>>584559947Idk, I think the rain effect is pretty unimpressive all in all. The limited visibility is nice, but the effect itself is pretty wack. I run on near-max settings, and you can see the cone around your character where the rain stops hitting the floor.
>>584560162PKM was good.But they did something to the caliber it fires. Possibly nerfing it?
>>584559947it sounds really niceit looks whatever
>>584560158Wow they nerfed Verba spam too. Now taking out a Verba from a vehicle inventory takes 5sec instead of near instant in S1
>>584562094damn. that was pretty comfy shooting down shitters.
>>584556801What map is this?
>people have galil unlocked and can two tap me from 290 fucking meters from ground level to tower roof>meanwhile devs raped recon and put two bullets in its headim not feeling it anons. every game people are screaming and yelling slurs to everyone whos not hz rushing, looking at the new changes, whatever hz rusher guys were complaining about was triple nerfed into oblivions1 first feeling was nice but now im not even sure the money metagame even adds anything to the game, people are awful and just do whatever is convenient for them, not playing the game to win or to even be minorly useful to their team, the only meaningful coordination public randoms can pull of is hz rushing, which may be why the ones doing it win every roundim not feeling a single good thing like the first weeks of s1, i may drop this one and maybe check again the next season ? farewell anons
>>584564797i dont even know why those "fuck your fob shitty afk guys RUSH HZ RETARDS" folks are in this game
Something broken with XP leveling. After 3 matches already lvl30. And can easily add 10+ in next 2 or 3
>>584565761nothings broken, xp curves were lowered greatly until like class level 35
>>584566075Great, now people will be complaining that there is nothing to do in just a week.
>>584565761it's in the patch notes
>season starts at 5am>people are already level 40+ within the first 6 hours>won't get to play until around 8-9pmPeople are unironically going to have Tier 3 armor by the time I get home tonight, aren't they?
rain is super good so far.
>>584566415>lvl 40+ in the first 6 hoursthose are cheaters anon. Just report them.
Thinking about picking this up after the General Sam video, is it fun?
I get that it's easier to unlock and it's the new cheap tank, but come the fuck on...
Everyone who was whining that the grind in the game takes too long will get farmed by rocket Little Birds, tanks, and Chads in tier 3 armor with Spears already this weekend.
>>584566997Tbh I'm gladTanks are deadly, but very susceptible to rpgs and maws. Makes for a nice dynamic and encourages bringing explosives. Unlike helis, which are very deadly and are only countered by hitting a fucking crazy TF2 gunshot bride trick shot rocket
madafaka, this game literally took 1h 55min
>>584566997Are you in my game? thats literally my entire chat bitching about someone having a tank this early
>games are taking 5x as long to fill because people will only join blueyeah no one could have seen this coming lmao
>>584567294If you know how to drive u can't care less about rpg. Maws yes but rps is a joke against proper tank.
Leveling is so fucking fast now its great.
>>584567550It takes literally 1 rpg shot to knock out the engine
Man... I don't think I want to grind for flakpanzer
>>584566678I'm already level 34 and I play only two professions
>>584567669It's not. Late wipe shit in like 1 week from now. And wardogs late wipe kinda meh
who else /comfymaxxing/
>>584567669They made early levels faster but later levels much slower.
used the free rifles for 90% of s1now i've been using nothing but the ak
>>584568807I will be once I unlock AT minesBlue logi enjoyers will feel the wrath
>>584558186I've already played a few matches. Im over it. Im lvling my shit at a normal pace and there's people in my lobbies with high lvl unlocks. Either its exploits or cheaters are still going at it without consequence.
>>5845689864 blue team matches and like 80% of logi helibums with pallets
blue players>green team? i never heard of her hahagreen players>holy shit i finally got on team greenred players>fuck green and blue
>>584568737So do you feel like leveling overall is faster than last season, even with the nerfs?
>>584569545They mentioned this >>584568876 in their previewIt's a nerf if you're a late wipe player
>Still no hotfix to remove or nerf the bonus down to 5% instead of 20%.Its so fucked.
i regret buying this game. it was only fun for the first week, i should've fucking known better. i got owned
TRAITOR
Why is everyone so quiet all of a sudden? There's barely any teamwork going on. People aren't even responding to banter, everyone sounds frustrated when they do.
butthurt over the wipe and losing all their shit probably
>actually, the devs did the blue bonus as a way to psyop the playerbase and get better data on if blue needs more buffs So is every dumbfuck idea that Brampton comes up with going to be handwaved away as "data gathering?" I've seen this stupid excuse come up so much, it has to be a joke.
blue is still fucking trash
>>584571559they're gonna datagather the game into 2k average daily players lol
>>584571139>1000 pallets at fob>5 man res you and 3 heal you>APC chasing Hz or big group of ppl>no teamwork
>>584568638you might like what's at the end of the rainbow
What the fuck is this
>>584572179didn't read the patchnotes award
>>584572179Not part of the Five Thousand Datagatherers.
>>584571559>he fell for the "if I'm retarded, will people get mad?' experimentthanks for the free data, chump
>>584568876>They made early levels faster but later levels much slower.What exact class level become slower than s1?
>>584572179sorry buddy, the only way to stop griefing is to annoy the fuck out of every normal person that joins a game after it starts!
>>584572179you get to a tower to reveal the map
Is this The Vision™?
>they put bf6 on gamepass right before the wardogs wipekek
So the Z map has rain only i guess
>oh good I have just enough money to unlock the mosin and buy a kit>forgot about the super special scope you also have to unlockI'm just going to go take a nap
>>584573176debunked
>unlock PKM>need 2 more levels for bipod to make it usablethis is a prank by the devs
>PKP is support level 15>It's fucking silencer is recon 15Got my day one game plan
so what's the blue bonus anyway? 10%?
>>584567294>Gunshot bride was 16 years ago
>>58457401020 iirc
>>58457430920% is insane and makes playing any other team a waste of time if you care about progression even a little bit. devs are rock tokers
>entire lobby is filled with tanks>no one seems to have maaws unlocked yetI just got home from work and I'm already gaped
>>584574467>>entire lobby is filled with tanksSame. This is retarded. What the fuck where they thinking.I had fun for 2 rounds. Now it's rocket choppers and tanks everywhere.
>>584574854Is there some xp exploit? Even with the quicker progression I can't see how so many people got to level 20 in 9 hours. Or is the blue team modifier bugged and actually +50%
>>584574467Seriously, what the fuck are we supposed to do against the tanks?You can't get close enough for IED, they blow up any building you go into, and your bullets do zero damage to themSeriously what the fuck were they smoking?
>>584571559It's 5D chess you're not smart enough to understand
>>584575104i'm at 15 support now having played all day
>have 100 levels in each class>refuse to put unlocks anywhere except the first 35 levels even as you make hitting those early levels easierAre the devs actually fucking retarded?
>Join empty server to check out the seed bonus>4/63>But there's like 15 unassigned players fighting over blueBrilliant
h-here I go... haven't played in a while...
im loyal to red team
>spend the last few weeks of season 1 looking forward to the wipe in season 2 where everyone has low level gear again>it lasts 4 hours instead of 10 days this timeNice job
>>584575176Have you mainly been on blue team?
>>584575680>level restricted servers are dead and worthless because the devs don't play the gamewe'd get to enjoy low level gear ALL SEASON if the devs weren't inhaling crack smoke all day long. we need gear-capped servers, not level-capped
>79 players in server>only 51 picked a team because everyone wants the blue gibsmight just be the dumbest fucking devs of all timeshould have just added an auto assign that gives a bonus if you complete the match
>>584571559Obviously they just want to remove the "blue team is always bad and shit" mindset in the majority of the playerbase. The majority of the playerbase is casuals right now. So by having a bonus to blue team, they're hoping more sweats join for the bonus and thus blue team wins more often. That way casuals will see that blue team doesn't lose all the time.
>>584575861Don't worry just wait until the middle of the season and the game will be playable again :)
>>584576129The whole reason why blue even had a bad reputation is because the devs don't know how to create maps with balanced spawns and they gave blue the worst camo they possibly could. These issues have easy fixes. But now they've made the problem immeasurably worse because now some games don't even start because everyone rightfully surmises that playing any team but blue is a waste of time.
I just got ejected out of a game for seamingly no reason at all
>>584576129i don't think it'll work very well. people know the only reason blue would win now is because all the best players joined it for the bonus. as soon as the bonus is gone blue goes back to being the designated shitter team. they also have that camo stigma and the "unbalanced map" stigma, even if neither of those things actually affected their winrate the stigma still exists regardlessbrammer needs to put the thinkin cap on
>>584574010>>584574309It's actually just 5% according to some redditor who did the math. Shame on the devs for not stating the number in the patch notes before people started running wild with whatever numbers they fancied.
>>584576597It was only one map, the rest was newbies who picked blue since blue is everyone's favorite color.
>>584576848The shotgun "nerf" worked. People are fucking stupid, so I wouldn't be surprised if this blue bonus works too.
>>584576230>"it's really hard baww" >"fighting cheaters"Yeah, judging from in-game, you really took them down. The cheating is worse than ever now lmao. Surely those lvl 80's I'm seeing are all legit. I'm starting to feel like a retard because it's all so blatant, almost part of the meta. >>584576604Did you doubt the vision at all during your game?
>>584574010>>5845740105%Being in the control zone normally gives $160, but on Blue it gives $168
>>584573149battlefield is probably playable today because wardogs took all the cheaters for now
>before s2>waaaah leveling is too slow!>after s2>waaaah leveling is too fast!color me surprised, just play the game and stop yapping
>>584577138simple people are often incapable of understanding nuance so i'll break it down for youbefore, average joe thought it took too long to get to the "endgame" items because they had to drive a ural for 60 hoursnow, average joe thinks it's too quick because there's multiple tanks in every lobby within 5 hours of the wipeideally, the balance would be somewhere between these two extremes. the two extremes are not the only solutions, retard-kun, and that's what people are trying to pass through that dense, empty skull of yours
>had to go to work>have to download for 6 hoursGuess it's over for this season already..
>>584576230>bad actorsI knew he was posting in here.
Okay data gathered. Now wipe again with slightly higher xp grind, all the end game stuff shoved back a few levels so we don't skip early game entirely, and do it on a fucking saturday when the unemployed can't dominate the game
>>584576230"the tide is turning in the battle against cheaters">mid-game a popup appears on everyones screens simultaneously>"someone on this server has been permanently banned for cheating">everyone laughs in chat, speculates on who it could be>i think "surely its Jin, some chink cheating bugman who multiple people complained about for obvious aimbotting">people in chat even mention Jin independently>i check the scoreboard, he's still there, nobody knows who even got banned.>still getting griefed by hackersyeah no. They need to hire some dedicated guys whose entire job is banning cheaters and cheat-mods. Its an entire specialty.
>>584572298>reading patchnotesnerd
>>584573134Could be worse
>>584575527>>584577726Their refusal to use any of the 65 other fucking levels even while they make progressing through the first 35 a breeze is actually baffling. I thought for sure they'd make use of this incredibly obvious balancing tool when they said they were making progression a little easier so people have quicker access to the "tools that define their class."
>>584578453Early access. You knew what you were getting into. Data must be gathered, unironically.
I see all the blues fucked off to green
>best part of season 1 was the first weekend when an m249 kodiak or unarmed humvee was a big deal>season 2 skipped that phase entirely and went right to tank shitteryok see you guys in season 3
>>584578440Is this how they farm fast driver xp for tank?
>>584573134>>584578440The vision...I see it...I see it so hard...
>>584577138Go fuck yourself bremmer
>>584578952Yes. You only need to put crates with 1 item in them anywhere in the CZ for max bonus. So people just drive in, dump them, and turn around
I got a double headshot kill with the Scout rifle, I ddin't even know that was possible.
None of these changes matter because the armor system still exists. Whether it takes 100hr or 20hrs to unlock doesn't matter, the fact that TTK goes to 9-11 hits at all is completely insane, and having more people have access to that, faster, doesn't help anything. They should have just taken armor out, changed bullet damage values to accompany that, and have everything be in the same universe. 7.62 rounds get classic 34 bullet damage, 5.56 get's classic 28, SMG rounds gets between 15-20 depending on fire rate, and suddenly snipers and everything else falls into place instantly. This shit has all been figured out for more than 2 decades now, and throwing good gameplay out the window for the sake of a fucking armor system of all things, is just really tragic.
>>584578709i guess the two years of playtesting were for shits and gigs
GATHER DATA LIKE YOU USED TO
>>584579916Use hollow points. Simple as.
>>584579916>Just don't have armor
STOP THE COUNT!
>>584576230>Get to enjoy seal clubbing in official servers for the first 2 weeks>Then move to low gear servers to have funI fail to see the problem here anon
>>584576230it's a gigantic red flag that they didn't see the problem with level capped servers in the first place. like, you don't even need to play the game to understand this problem. if you think about it for 5 seconds, you'd come to the conclusion that level caps don't fix the problem. it really took the entire playerbase telling these guys that GEAR CAP is logical to get them to understand it?these are the same devs who keep sqwuaking about "their vision" and to "play something else" if you don't like it, yet they don't even understand the most basic shit about their own game?
>people wasting time on driving>pilots trying to hog passengers>builders ruining themselves with expensive fobs>mfw actually playing soldier and having fun
>Bulkhead face when designing the game:)>Bulkhead face when balancing the game:|
John Wardogs did it! Ukruzziakstan is saved! The ping limit solved the cheater problem! Woohoooo!!
>>584581840 just need to build 2 more fobs and I'll join you on the frontline
the LMG experience in this game is disappointing
>>584571559people at my job have been using "data gathering" as an excuse not to do their jobs for the last five years so if it works it works
>>584583219Use a bipod.
>>584583219use a bipod and it's literally the best LMG experience. When it works.
I think they should get rid of levels entirely and just have everything unlocked by default like real video games used to.
>>584584521>i thinkthat's what you're doing wrong.you're not supposed to thinkyou're supposed to visualizeand you don't have the vision
>>584583862even with a bipod, your success pretty much comes down to a dice roll on whether or not you can get a good angle on a relevant part of the mapwhich parts of the map are relevant changes every match, so you're just bumbling around slow as shit with this big heavy gun hoping for a decent opportunity to lay down, and god forbid you get caught with your pants down and have to spray it. at least the g18 with some hp fixes the last problemidk, not enjoying it. it's not a comfy weapon, in arma i can pick a hill or a bush on a supply route or a forward ambush on the front, insurgency I can lay down on the edge of a lane, battlefield i can camp next to a flag or play breakthrough and hold a point. in this game it's fine when i get an angle but getting a decent angle takes too much effort with all the bullshit going on. i could camp a fob but then it's a gamble if anything even happens there and i'm sitting there like a sentry gun for half the match lol. idk, just not enough consistency to the playstyle for me to enjoy it
I gave up half way through Season 1 so the Call of Duty players would fuck off. I don't feel so good looking at the steam charts. Should've stocked more than 2 gold bars.
The lack of defibs makes deaths more devastating in the early game. People lose money a lot more. They're also a lot more likely to spend time waiting for a revive even though a revive is less likely.
I'm having a blast.Until the tank shows up. Then I'm no longer having any blasts.
>>584584521Unfortunately, grinding increases player retention better than anything except possibly gambling real money. I don't think levels are necessary though. You can limit how often someone can use a tank by making it expensive, you don't need to lock it behind hundreds of hours of play time.
>>584585292Then you just get blasted.
>>584584714lack of consistency between matches is something i'm struggling with in general in this game. i'm sure that's the appeal to a lot of people though
>>584585636>grinding increases player retention better than anything>don't think levels are necessary thoughHoly cognitive dissonance
>>584585636>you don't need to lock it behind hundreds of hours of play time.Well then...Allow me to introduce you to Season 2 of Wardogs, where tanks are unlocked on day 1!
>>584585948The grind can be for money. You can use a tank 1/n games by saving for it, instead of literally never because you aren't playing for 18 hours a day.
>>584585948based retard
>>584585636We simply exterminate the percentage of the population that finds grinding appealing and the.the remaining 200k people can breed a superior race of video game enjoyers.
The economy system as it stands now is completely pointless. It's brilliant in a way, like a meta CS economy but it can't breathe because of the MMO progression.
>>584586026Is it that fast now? I am not able to play yet. Was looking forward to the universal poverty era.
>>584586026I'm genuinely so fucking happy and if people bitching ruins this for me and makes them put the grind back in I'll fucking flip.
>>584586304I doubt it's legit because hackers are still abundant. Which makes it even worse really.
>>584586304I started seeing tanks after 6 hours. I've seen 4 tanks so far. at least this guy is happy >>584586363
>>584580576>topped out at 337k, lower than S1lame
Why are people mad about sweaty players unlocking a lot of shit so quickly? I don't think people realize how much free time some people have. When my friend was unemployed around the time the last WoW expansion came out, everyone asked him "Bro, how are you even getting all this shit done?" His answer? "I don't work lmao." The only way you could ever stop a sweaty player is with time gates and I am not sure how many people feel about that.
>>584587232dead game
>>584587804I feel like day 3 for tanks would be fine. Day 1 is a bit extreme. We still have 6 weeks of this season.
maws meta inbound
niggas not even home from work yet and there's t72s everywherei can't wait to see the salt later
>try to drop the verba to the most competent looking guy, since I gotta dip fast to do logi>it goes as expected
>>584587804Personally it's because the game is way different during early wipe, so if it's too sped up I don't get to enjoy the full spectrum of gameplay wardogs offers. Ideally, let's say for 1 month wipes, we'd get 1 week of mostly shit kits, 2 weeks of mid gear/assault vehicles, and 1 week of full endgame. Now that people know how to level quickly and progress was sped up, it's looking more like 1 week of shit/mid gear, then 3 weeks of full endgame. Which sucks.I don't really care if a few people every match or so are way ahead of the progression curve though. I'm talking aggregate.
>>584588736even normies are level 40 already. cut that 1 week down to like 3 days kek
>>584588341Im grinding hard for the maaws, cant wait to mine some salt.
Really strong gear shouldn't just cost money, but also points from your terms score. Thoughts?
>>584589570>I want to give people the ultimate trolling tool
>>584589570We don't need to gather data to know this is a horrible idea.
>>584589570>>584589971sounds like something bulkhead would need a season of data gathering to know is a terrible idea
>>584589570the whole money metagame is entirely shit and just made everyone play like retards
>>584589570It's a garbage idea and that's why Bulkhead will implement it.
>We're going to add cosmetics>But the only way to get them is by exploiting
My current favorite pass time is going to negative reviews, looking up languages that would play on asian servers and translating them to see every single one of them complaining about the chinese. Japanese, korean, thai, vietnamese, russian, all just begging to have the chinese walled off.
XP streaks are fucking wild. I just went from 6 to 16 in driver from dropping pallets all game
>>584590449just like the history books. being asian is a continuous cycle of getting dommed by china and slowly capitulating to westerners for relief from the yellow menace
>>584590718You must be a on a peaceful server. On my server there are already faggots camping logistic routes with MG birds and tanks
>don't get blue>leave>join another server>get blue>team wipes out to sweats who already advanced in gearah yes. working as intended
>>584586753If tanks didn't cost less than a good kit this wouldn't be a problem.
>mortars can still bank 3x charges and spam, the rof "nerf" is irrelevant>one heli is enough to keep them topped up forever
>>584588023Day 3 for nolifes would be week 3 for normal people. In reality normal people wouldn't make it to week 3 since 3 weeks of being raped by poopsocks will make them quit.
>>584590449The Chinese mindset is that it is your duty to stop them cheating, they have no obligation to not do it.
>>584579293Does the bonus stack per crate? So a ural loaded with 4 crates is 4x the bonus?
im about to kyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys with these fobless losers>bring fob>there's 4 fobs>bring no fob>there's no fobs>go back to get a fob>there are now 4 fobs
I like that I can spam the fucking shelters with the shitty hammer to level fast
>>584591324You can't deny that it's a based mindset and makes this game much more enjoyable. I don't cheat but I take free kits off dead teammates. I used to shun the behaviour but now I just tell them they should have protected their gear better, and when they're down, it's free real estate.
WaitDid they get rid of the bonus money and XP before uncs even got home from work?There used to be yellow "Bonus Money" and "Bonus XP" below Blue
>>584586304>>584586697It's legit. Just unlocked tanks, with the primary reason I got delayed an hour was due to spending money on earlier unlocks. Logi streaks are really strong and I stole some guy's ural at level 1 which let me skip ahead a little
>>584591683Sure, but support is a dead end specialization with no real end game stuff.
>>584591882Buying a Humvee and a Mawws with like 9 rockets and camping enemy logis is fun though
>>584584521based unc
Done for today, see you guys tomorrow
Recon feels like it got hit bad by S2.
>>584590368dammit i laughed
>>584589570you should have to send a video of being sodomized by a homeless person to the devs to be allowed to buy amn attack heli
Why yes, I will be abstaining from buying a 500% price parachute and instead force my team mates to res and heal me.
>>584592224recon is raped AND murdered, and the rainy maps are just to piss on its corpse
Hey guys I heard everyone loves the new tanks :)
>heli flies too damn low for me to chute safelyyeah.... i'm going to fucking avoid getting rides. fucking god damn faggots
>>584592224Just got to lvl 5, pretty rough compared to earlier. Maybe it'll be better now that I have the SKS and can defend myself
>>584592395When you think about it, there really isn't any reason to not just freefall straight into allies and have them res you.
>>584592828If they fly higher they die to verbas and talons
>>584592828You WILL wait for the landing.You WILL let your pilot get the xp/cash bonus for landing.And you WILL tip him.
https://x.com/WARDOGS/status/2110837820554178620haha woopsies our bad
>>584593469>driver exploit preventing players from accessing tanks too early?
>>584593469what driver explot FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>584593469>blue team bonus was 5% cash and 2.5% xpand you fags were happy to bet your mothers' lives that it was 20%
>>584593752They said it was 5% or something weeks ago.
>>584593606it has to be a typo
>>584593721>FULL DETAILS IN THE VIDEO HERE
>>584593469These guys are actually just fucking retarded. Anyone with an IQ above 90 could figure out what would happen with the blue team bonus.
>>584593469driver exploit???
They even acknowledge it in the fucking video. Just add SOME unguided AT or something to Wardog level. That way people with Tanks/Helis can reasonably be countered because otherwise if someone unlocks tanks and helis and you don't have someone specced into support for the past few days, you're fucked.
>>584593606Im assuming this is what theyre talking about?But all I did was drive trucks and I still got the tank in like 5 hours.You're telling me theres a way to do it even faster?
>hmm I'll wait for S2 to start playing since I don't want to deal with high level stuff and bored grinders >S2 comes>it's completely fucked in multiple ways >try to play anyways>chinese hackers killing everyone on the server to level up their accounts to sell them fast before they are banned ...bro....just fuck multiplayer shooters I guess
>>584593752>and you fags were happy to bet your mothers' lives that it was 20%no one said that though
>>584594185>And players did tell us this oneAt least they admit it.
>>584591324this is propaganda. idk why the internet believes this so completely. they heavily punish cheaters in china, go look at their university system. cheating isn't encouraged in their society. cheating is heavily punished in all those eastern asian countries, it's one of the things they actually have in common
https://youtu.be/CBYVsdIT9SYYOHO ME NIGGERSmy buddies and I trolling when some fat white woman / tranny comes up and tells us to cool the casual racism. yarrrrrrr NIGGERS!!!!!!
I know everyone's doomposting and shit but this video with the fix and them admitting they were wrong is a lot more than other companies would do.
>>584594342how tf is an exploit tho ? and CZ is not cold zone motherfucker its COMBAT ZONE
>>584594561cry some more yellow clittycel
>>584594726fuck off zogbot, i'm american. real americans understand the enemy. knowing is half the battle
>>584594707fuck off brammer, you have no vision and you just operate on player outcry
>>584593469>i'm in the 99th support percentileyikestime for bed.
>>584593469>watch video>we stuck to our vision and our vision was wrongkekbut fuck these guys for admitting driver progression was fucked and that people were getting tanks too quickly but not addressing that directly. they will adjust driver progression but leave tanks where they are rather than move them back, so this season is already fucked from day 1 as thousands of players already have tanks before anyone has AT
>>584593469>>584594510>it's our le vision fuck off and go back to le cod>immediately capitulates every time the playerbase doesn't like somethingthat's a loller
>>584591825huh? there never was anything like that
>>584594968They fucking said in the video that their vision was wrong
>>584594561The punishments are severe because nothing less could deter them. When they are on the internet, or even physically in other countries, they exploit it for all it is worth because it is not only far more permissible, but even seen as beneficial to China to weaken everyone else.
>>584594342Banning people for this is actually insane imo. Don't hate the player, hate the game. People will always find the path of least resistance. It's problem solving.
>>584594342>those taking advantage of an extremely grindy game will be temp banned and cash/xp reset to 0I hate the tanks as much as anyone else but Bulkhead is retarded.
>>584593469does this mean the experiment and data collection was success? :)
To deal with cheaters they should get rid of the digital version of the game and force you to go to their actual offices to buy a physical copy of the game and have a small bomb implanted into your neck in order to play.
>banning anyone for shit testing their shitty early access balance pretty stupidfinding exploits is one thing, hacking is another the devs desperately need someone with a level head and rational community management strategy on their team to keep them in line
>>584595009>huh? there never was anything like that
>>584595194Yes. Season 3 will be perfect.
>>584591825for what it's worth, it was only +2.5% xp, and everyone spamclicked the blue button so it was very hard to get in
>>584595190>it's very easy for us to track LMAOYeah it's also easy to make sure it doesn't happen in the first place. These developers are a smarmy wreck it's fucking embarrassing
>>584595102yeah bro let's intentionally gimp our workforce with a bunch of incompetent cheaters. we want to encourage that behavior on a cultural level fershure, the benefits follow logically
Honestly at this point I'm ready to give up every shred of privacy and freedom I have if it means the end of these nigger hackers. Make some id required, facial recognition, biomarker "do you have a license for that fps" ass system so anybody caught cheating can be banned globally. I'm fucking desperate. It's every fucking one of these games
Are people fighting more as of this season or is mostly just one teaming dominating the HZ while the others make pillow forts?
>banning anyone who got ranks too fast>"it's very easy for us to track"heh... consider your data gathered, chud...
>>584595648that stuff doesn't stop em and it only really increases friction with regular users
Battlefield 6 didn't have these issues :)
>>584595648doesnt work. helldivers 2 has kernel level anticheat and cheaters still exist.
>>584595774>>584595818That's why we have to go even further beyond. Obligatory brain implants that explode when cheating neural patterns are recognized.
>>584595648VAC doesn't need kernel level anti-cheat, that works just fine.
>>584595045that's why i'm lolling @ the state of the lads
>>584595736Who knows. Blue was steamrolling for a while since green and red were all sitting in spawn waiting for a chance to switch teams
>>584595496You don't understand it at all. The Chinese innately believe you can cheat if you don't get caught. The Chinese authorities know this is the case and implement very severe punishments to deter this behavior. Cheating is encouraged outside of China only because it negatively affects others, which is good for China.
>>584595947>VAC doesn't need kernel level anti-cheat, that works just fine
>>584595736I feel like there's a lot of fighting.
Just reduce the population to like 50,000 people so its easier to watch every single one 24/7 so they dont cheat at video games.
>banning people for dropping off a crate with a single item in it to level driving faster and cheaperi and others did it last season just fine but now it's an exploit apparently
>>584595947>VAC ... works just fine.
>>584595812SAAAR PLEASE PLAY BATTLEDHALIT 6 SAAAR FREE GAME FOR A WEEK SAARTRIPLE XP SAAAR
The only thing that really stops cheaters is community servers with enough autistic admins to always have one guy on to snipe any that show up but this has its own problems and limitations.
>>584593721I just played and got to driver level 17 in like 2 games. The exploit is (brace yourself) to deliver pallets normally and do round trips. The multiplying streak effect would continually stack, so you'd get absolutely retarded XP for doing round trips and delivering pallets. Some people did it with the crates but that's probably the ban criteria of loading up a tiny crate with one supply, dropping it off at the absolute edge, then doubling back
>>584596157>Chinese people think it's good to cheat but they also punish cheating because it's bad to cheatokayi mean i'm not beating the CIA psyop, i'm just some guy in my basement, just think it's funny you think they somehow fostered a culture of "cheat at all costs" while also being severely disapproving of cheating in every instance of their life. the average chinese person is never going to interact with anyone but another chinese person, they have an internet firewall, at what stage in their lives do you think they're encouraged to cheat outside of china?
>>584595812Battlefield has been shit since at least 2009.
>>584595812What kind of building and indirect fire options does bf6 have for me. How many mines can I put down.
>>584596331Wait I did this. This is an exploit now?
>>584596552putting one thing in a crate and dropping it off was already a thing in s1 and its not an exploit, its their retarded VISION™ that rewards the same whether you bring something full and useful or just something emptythey are swinging so hard in the full retard territory
>>584596560You're just retarded, I am afraid.
>>584596560>the average chinese person is never going to interact with anyone but another chinese person, they have an internet firewallhow did you stumble upon this website? you are too retarded and naive to post here
>>584596840>>584596882concession accepted. go back to drinking your spookaid
>>584596791Yeah but this time it was giving like 50x the XP for doing it, so people were spawning tanks and the anti air tank within 2 hours. I also saw a havoc so I'm assuming it was the same for heli logi. I legit thought I kept getting in hacker lobbies or some shit or there was some new crazy exploit but nope, it was just playing the game
>>584596882He's somehow unaware of the tens of millions of Chinese people who don't live in China.
>>584596331>>584596658DROP THE FUCKING DRIVER XP NOW AND NOBODY GETS HURT
All you retards sperging about crates should really watch the full video explanation. It's only about 1000 people total who really abused it, they would drop off 150-200 crates in a match, leaving the zone and coming back. If you were just dropping crates like a shitter, you were a useless fuck to your team but you'll probably be fine. And even then it's only a 24 hour ban.
>>584596331Thats why im saying it must be something else. Delivering crates gives less money and only slightly more XP than delivering pallets>>584596552The multiplying effect does not stack forever. I drove nonstop since update and $ for 2 pallets caps out at 7.5k. Which is 50% more than previously, but you have to do 5 trips to max it out.There is one thing that could be considered an "exploit"You fill your ural with crates and then deliver them to zone. Each crate counts towards the streak so it only takes 3 trips (2x4 crates + 2 pallets) to max out the streak instead of 5 trips. But can that really be considered such a horrific exploit that it warrants bans and resets?One other thing. I noticed during one game my round trip bonus kept increasing somehow. It should cap out at like $750 or something? But I noticed it increased all the way to $3.6k. I have no idea how that happened but I would assume its similar to the heli stunts XP thing from last season.
>>584595812This early access piece of shit is still better than BF6.
>>584591484>Grab MG Ural at match start, grab ammo, music, a single pallet if no one wants a ride, a large crate with meds, stims and smoke nades>Then if no one has said anything say "Got fob" in chat and get a 2nd crate with just a fob at 75% mark up>Dump pallet and fob crate wherever before going off to hang with the HZ blobBeen doing that for a week, laughed every time I saw that +13500
ALL THEY HAD TO DO TO FIX LOGI WAS TO 10x THE "ROUNDABOUT TRIP" BONUS BUT NOOOOO THEY HAD TO HIT IT WITH A TRIPLE NERF AND A RETARDED COMPOUNDING BONUS SO NOW YOUR S2 IS FUCKED OOPS SORRY
>>584597332>can that really be considered such a horrific exploit that it warrants bans and resets?Yeah I agree, though I wouldn't mind a reset. Mainly because I really like the game when everyone's low tiered and shitty. But this is all on the devs for being retarded
Chinese people are not genetically predisposed to cheat.Gooks grow up in a society where their entire future depends on passing extremely hard bullshit tests and jumping through ridiculous bureaucratic hoops. There's no rags to riches type shit. When the system offers no social mobility and the odds are totally stacked, why the fuck would you respect its rules? Cheating is a way to get ahead or even the odds in a system that's fundamentally unfair.This goes way back. Google the imperial examination if you're really curious
>People cry for logi supplies>don't buy from small cratesJust got the ural so pallets at the edge of zone 4 u
>>584598437I get it's the norm in China they are a very raped people and it's been this way for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. That doesn't mean I should have to tolerate playing with them.>No communication in a game based around communication>300+ ping letting them band through walls>Your entire postBulkhead can fix the problem by allocating a smidge of infrastructure for SEA servers, but no, three servers for all of Asia is enough. You get to deal with 黄心婷 and his bullshit instead.
GODS....THE VISION....
>>584595279nice edit
someone said they're banning for auto clickers.... I don't believe it because it sounds fucking ridiculous.
So I can just get free money by going into an empty server?
>>584596261>Just reduce the population to like 50,000 peopledo you mean players or like globally
>>584597332The more I think about it, it must have been exploiting the return trip bonus somehow. Last season people were flying helicopters under bridges over and over to stack the stunt bonus, there must be a way to do the same with the return trip bonus until you are getting tens of thousands per return trip. Its the only logical thing I can think of.
>>584600132And more free money?
>>584600153>Last season people were flying helicopters under bridges over and overNo wonder I had so many pilots crash and force me to respawn
>>584600302Sharpshooter?
Getting randomly logged out mid match
>>584556101The resets are stupid, simple as
>>584600987it's the soccer minigame at spawn, was just introduced. you get paid for playing it for whatever fucking reason.
>>584601576>retard who spent 100 hours a week grinding thinks his time should be valued try playing video games for fun, not for fake accomplishments, and you will feel better
>>584601576The resets are for early access.
>>584600139Globally obviously
>>584601576I might agree if we weren't going to have everything back in less than a week
>>584601576the resets are for data gathering
>>584600987>SharpshooterThe weapon vendor occasionally spawns gunsFire them at the red steel silhouettes and get cash
>>584600153I just checked and dropping crates (small or big) with only 1 build supply literally gives you zero xp. It gives you some cash and increases your delivery streak, but it gives absolutely 0 XP. While searching xitter I found someone complaining about this 10 hours ago, so its not like the just hotfixed it out while I was testing.There are literally only 2 choices:1.Either doing 2 runs of dropping crates to increase your streak is illegal, which would be extremely crazy and how the fuck would you even enforce that? 1 stack of building materials is not allowed, but if you put 10 stacks its now okay? You could fill the crates with building mats and it would cost very little and the 10 streak bonus would pay for the loss very quickly.2.There is some other exploit involving delivery streaks or round trip bonuses or crates to gain lots of xp quickly. I've just seen my first rocket bird just now so maybe its not the round trip bonus because helis dont get that. But it probably is possible to get the rocket bird this quickly legit with the increased progression. That was just 1 rocket bird compared to the dozens of tanks ive seen.
>>584601576ok wise guy, how do you image the game 2 months from now>all the new contentinstantly unlocked by people playing from day 1>new playersswinging their t1 hammers trying to level up while both teams have >a tank>a hydra>arty>and a mortar aimed at your first possible fob
>>584602917>tank>hydraNeutralize each other >mortar and arty Remove the camera so shellfaggots have to have a spotter to aim
>>584602558>2.There is some other exploit involving delivery streaks or round trip bonuses or crates to gain lots of xp quickly.It's this one. They mentioned the most egregious exploiters were dropping 150 crates a match which I don't see as possible normally.
>>584602037>>584601830 (You)
>>584602558>rocket bird>dozens of tankshow do you get neet bucks?
Using the break action makes me want to kill myself
>>584587804>Why are people mad about sweaty players unlocking a lot of shit so quickly?Zoomers have been mindraped by growing up with so much slop that the "chase" is their only form of stimulation
>>584603782Spot shit with the spotting scope dude
>>584603150A tweet mentioned this reddit post about the patch notes. Essentially its speculating that people could drop off crates to a FOB right next to spawn, build up the streak quickly and then deliver to the CZ once they have the 10 streak.As for your comment, 150 crates by a single player might be possible.For a ural thats 37 round trips which is possible if a game goes to 90-90-90For a little bird it might still take 2 hours, but very possible.
>>584556101Remove the shell camera and the game is fixed
>>584600132>>584600302that'll be a progress reset + 24 hour ban + tip for you bud
I wish I had the drive to use voice like I did with HLL back in the dayI'll just keep silently reviving people, I suppose.
Literally my first match in the second season and there's a rocket little bird just farming the entire server, amazing game
>shitbuckets already at level 60 with attack choppers and tanksCut off welfare
They need to hurry and add the ability to build a complex underground tunnel network and bunker system to counter air.
>just logged into wipe>most niggers in lobby already at Level 20-30THE SEASON HAS ONLY BEEN LIVE FOR HOURS. WHEN WILL WE FINALLY ADDRESS THE NOLIFER QUESTION
>got logi?
>>584609079people are already driving tanks because the devs fucked up bigly
I have level 1 armor and I'm already getting killed by T3 weapons. This fucking sucks.
>>584609134is this The Vision™
>>584609079Wardogs devs forcibly hires every unemployed player to artificially reduce how long they play. Maybe digging holes in a desert or something.
Gotta be honest, glad I Waited before I bought this game
>ggx18 pushed to lvl 85Cocksuckers! I just bought the skin!
>>584609162Levelling up is piss easy, I've been driving trucks for a few hours and I'm very nearly level 20 driving.
Day 1 level 60 poopsocks proving >>584601576 right
>>584609134Is every match like this or were we in the same match?>>584609079Bitch I'm lvl 60.
>>584610261https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=i5HDQWrmVq0
>>584610261was bremmer right?>70's for everyone
>>584610261https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=zxxFtO0i8i8
I'm at work and they already removed the xo shit? I get it it's early access and all that but they're just lobbing out obviously bad ideas shouldn't even be a thought to just push out.
>>584610425I look like this and talk like this.
>>584610883No, you're >>584610553
>>584610989That too.
if youre in this game, fuck youwhat the fuck is that fob
Gepard and M249 humvees are already on the field, if you're trying to level your driving or do logis then good luck.
>>584611259They hacked the enemy
Explain to me why it would be a bad financial decision to just ban the nolifes.If banning 5% of the playerbase would improve the game for 95% its an obvious choice IMO. The same logic can be applied to banning the Chinese.
I only can play the game tomorrowAm I fucked? Am I behind the rat race?
>>584611705>The same logic can be applied tothe blacks or the spics or the or the towelheads or the seamonkeys or the jews
>>584611705The nolifes are the 95% is the main problem. People with jobs and families makes up less then 5% of all gamers, much less this specific game.
>>584612002>People with jobs and families makes up less then 5%You are retarded if you believe this. The average "gamer" plays less than 1 hour per day.
>>584611523oh yea man, red got HACKED before green put down a single fob
>boot up wardogs>realize i'm too far behind now>close wardogsi guess i'll go start a new minecraft world or something
>>584612002>>584612137My mental retardation kicked in and I forgot to mention why that is relevant. The playstation FTC leaks showed that something like 70% of their playerbase was the 1 hour per day casual who exclusively plays CoD. I think when people talk about poopsocks they are specifically talking about those who will play 12+ hours straight. These people are an extreme minority and should be banned quite frankly.
>>584612324It happens. People rush the fobs at the start of the game all the time for easy kills before the walls are up.
>>584611810Yes. Poopsocks already reign supreme.
>>584612429>>>realize i'm too far behind nowI dont know if this is a bit or not. Illuminate darkness from my eyes and help me see... The Vision
>>584611810I literally started playing 7 hours ago and I'm already behind.
>>584611372Joe Bremmer is a kike
>>584556101How about no progression, everything is unlocked, and we get to just buy what we want with money.
hey good news guys, even reddit is mad at the poopsocks who've already unlocked everything
The problem with 90% of the earning mechanisms in this game is that they have absolutely nothing to do with any of the following three things, which are the sources of value in the game:1. Winning the game (ie creating a game that could be fun as a competition).2. Playing in a way that is fun as a player.3. Playing in a way that is fun for other players.The earning potential of every activity is basically just a completely arbitrary number. It's the economic problem of a command economy. Whatever the devs assign progression value to, people will do because 90% of the game is the promise that you'll have fun later if you grind now. The hitch is that not only is the grind itself not fun, but the total amount fun in the game goes down the more total progression there is because of shit design choices by the devs to incentivise the grind by making lategame shit obviously OP and unfair. The game degenerates into narrow slices of fun for small segments of players who grind faster and unlock things before counters are unlocked, but playing in servers were most of the players are playing in unengaging ways that make those "fun things" not that much fun to use.The travesty of all of this is that games normally have these grinds to mask not having good gameplay that is actually mechanically engaging and fun, but Wardogs has a solid mechanically fun,if unpolished, foundation in most of its systems. It has mostly good game feel when the game is happening with fairly even engagements that exclude most of the endgame unlocks.No one enjoys this game more because of repeated logi heli runs to the edge of zone, afking in bushes with binoculars or building and tearing down and building assets again, and no one enjoys it more once the higher unlocks come out of those activities. It's fucking nuts how much this game gets right and how much it gets totally wrong.
>>584613745I'm sorry but you're mentally retarded and I'm not sure why you think anyone here wants to be interracting with you. Good luck in your next life.
yeah this isnt fun currently, you just die in 2 hits and people take forever to kill
>>584614063Thank you for your input, poopsock.
>>584614071>you just die in 2 hits>people take forever to killWhich is it?
>>584614465You've already unlocked t3 armor so stop lying you nolife.
>>584614640So you know it's easy to unlock the gear?
>>584612429Feeling the same way. I have no problem with the resets, but if it's a consistent battle of Bushmaster vs T3 armor every time then I'm taking a break. I'm not seeing the vision.
I've had no issues and unlocked the Galil and Mosin in 3 gamesMany people are just bad
>>584614783>it's easy to unlock the gear?Then there shouldn't be unlocks
I've played for about 5 hours now and just hit Driver 16 with no lonestar buffs.
>progression has been sped up 5 times>dadfaggots still complainjust leave atp, it's never enough
dude what the fuck I just saw a tank in my combined arms game
>>584614925>I'm not seeing the vision.Then you were never among the 5000 Elect. On the day of judgement Bremmer will turn you away.
>>584615705>progression has been sped up 5 timesThen there is no reason for there to have been a reset.
>>584613770I saw someone suggest an RTS mode for the game where drilling acquired resources that unlocked better kit for your team, while your performance defined how much money you had to spend. Everyone starts with 10k and only the starter gear is available.
>>584614925>I'm not seeing the vision.Hey, cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
Wait, so DMRs are just all dogshit now? These things do nothing in the testing range. Also, why did they rape the MP5 so hard, was anyone complaining it didn't have enough horizontal recoil?
>blue gibs gets turned off>goes right back to green rape stomp every gameumm...
>>584616324Because the MP5 is German and therefore racist and nazi. You should be using the M4 carbine or the Putin-endorsed AK and Bizon to defend the interests of zionist Israel like you were born to, goyim.
Instead of a progression system everything should be unlocked BUT all three teams get different randomized access to equipment.
I think it would be more fun if the bullets didn't do damage. I know that would make it a completely different game, but I don't like getting shot and I have bad aim. What do you guys think?
>Just do 5 streaks of round trips to make your money back bro>Get killed by a camping AA tank in the forestOh my fucking GOD SEASON 2 JUST CAME OUTHOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN LMFAO
>>584616492>or the Putin-endorsed AK and BizonPutler is also a racist nazi transphobe. Bremmer stands with Ukraine, why else do you think he gave the designated NAFO team a 20% boost?
What if we had a pick/ban system for eqpiand vehicles.
Blues still suck btw
What if they just made blue orange and changed nothing else.
>>584617252Putin is a kike though
I don't always go assaultbut when I do, it's because I need to go back to spawntl;dr fuck your gear, hf picking that up after
>>584617530A racist nazi transphobic chud kike.
First game in I'm pleasantly surprised, bison is a very strong starter smg. How do i cope with Ural nerf, I used to dump it and go to HZ. Small crates from free suv are not it and I can only uber my squad in, every once in a while.
>>584611372https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brkDjQ-aiokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr-D6XI_ySAfuck now I want a Pave Low added it should tank 4 RPG hits and has miniguns and ferry spg and tanks with a sling load mechanic
>be me>fat lethargic no reflexes battledad>come home from working for Mr Shekelheimersteinberg for my wife's salary >want to relax and play truck simulator >ural is 35,000 and ammo pallet is 25,000I do not care for the reset wipes
Hey guys, what if they just made a good system that isn't even remotely comparable to how tarkov does shit?
This shit is so unfun now. Everyone is way too fucking sweaty as they all rush to get the bullshit gear unlocks. Somehow things were much more lax when the season was ending. I wish there was a major casualization effort pushed into this game this shit is more bullshit than Arma at times.
It would be fine if there weren't just straight upgrades of armor, weapons, and attachments. In fact I think Ammo is actually done really well and I applaud them for that. HP ammo has legitimate uses. AP ammo has legitimate uses. FMJ is still a great all rounder. I got to 112 last season and I was still using all 3 ammo types depending on the situation. If they could balance the other stuff the way they did the ammo, it'd be good.
>>584620342Just make it like counterstrike where everything is unlocked and stuff just costs money
>>584602558>>584603150>>584604289>the logi "streak" bonus was coded as "leave HQ + get back to HQ = bonus">so, naturally, the exploiters figured they could just drive a truck out of HQ and immediately throw it in reverse to re-enter HQ and get the round trip bonus>then they did it for hours.Yep THAT is an exploit. So most people have nothing to fear.
>>584620813Could iran please nuke England
So that's why I see multiple AA tanks in games now.
>>584620016Can you even get the URAL without rounding up retards into a Kodiak for a drop-off?
>>584621338>Can you even get the URAL without rounding up retards into a Kodiak for a drop-off?YeahReturn to base when one team has 18 points, get the APC, drive it into the zoneAfter about 10 players spawn on it, you'll have enough Driver XP for the Ural
>>584619498source?
>>584622532>source?
>neets on neetbux log in to season 2 at 10 am and use driving exploit to unlock the tank>Dads of Marathon come home at 5 and get tank ganked from long rangeIs this game going to survive season 2?
>>584622781good enough for me
>>584622781Honesty is in such short supply these days.
>>584620016i ran into the hz with just a shotgun and ended up taking the saw on an empty tower. some guy came up there and i perforated him and took his binocs then sat up there and got 120 assists and 150k profit. idk if binocs are unlocked from level 0 cuz i didn't check but if they are they're still a great way to make some spending moneypic related is my first match this season i just played 5 minutes ago
>>584622805Don't forget>Brapper pulls the ladder up behind the neets
I think they should try putting fallguys mechanics in. It just makes sense with how many players are in a lobby.
>>584615920I've heard a couple of variations on that idea and they're worth exploring, but I don't think the devs should do it because it's not their vision (unironically).If I were the lead designer for the game, I would do it like this: The hotzone would spawn gold bars (12.4kg, 2x1 slots), towers would spawn gold bars on console activation and drills would generate gold bars in addition to hotzone pulls. Add a FOB structure called a Palletizer, only buildable in the CZ.Depositing a gold bar in a FOB inside the control zone gives your team 1 point. Logi drivers can buy gold bar pallets from FOBs if there are gold bars, a palletizer and some fuel+mechanical supplies. Depositing a gold bar pallet at main base gives 1 point for each gold bar. On match end, gold bars in main, fobs and inventory are converted to cash at the current global exchange rate. 1/6 of the value is given to the depositor/inventory holder. 1/12 of the value is given to a logi to main depositor if there is one, 1/3 of the value is split evenly amongst all players on the team.FOB capture transfers ownership of the current gold bars in the FOB to the new team along with any associated points, with the depositor value split evenly amongst the capturing team players in the FOB radius when it's captured. Destroying a FOB disappears the gold bars and the associated points.Destroying a logi truck with gold bar pallets depalletizes the gold bars and drops them on the ground at the wreck. When players die, if they still have gold bars when their inventory would despawn then their gold bars are removed and spawn in the hotzone immediately.Then remove most of the rewards associated with actions unrelated to directly interacting with FOBs and the hotzone, and redistribute them across new actions associated with doing things with the gold bars or to people/vehicles with the gold bars. Leave existing CZ/HZ points mechanics in place for wins to prevent stalled out trainwreck games, but slow them.
>>584556101Time for daily steam charts check up.>new season recovery rate was lower than expectedcould be nothing but we'll see in few days how the fall off shapes especially after the week end.See you guise in 3 or 4 days.
>>584624104I like war game with moneyI don't like the wipes Simple as
>>584624074The idea of all of this basically being to create a single set of goals for teams, while removing the rewards for "mud pie value" activities where people expend a lot of boring time doing things that are no fun for either them or anyone else. In other words:Wardogs is a sandbox where you're free to choose how you play, but everyone in the sandbox is now playing in the same game and no one is rewarded for not playing with everyone else.
MY neighbor keeps banging on his wall because I'm roleplaying Mr. Kim (city wok) selling weapons and building big warr to stop the mongorians. I think he might be a mongorian arso
>rebinding hold-to-ADS is still completely brokenawesomegreatfantasticepiccoolneat
>>584624379>>584624074And to clarify, palletizing gold bars doesn't remove the existing points for their deposit. Those points are "locked in" by palletizing the bars, even if the truck later gets destroyed and the bars are captured by a new team.Obviously huge penalties for TKing gold bar trucks to avoid redeposit schemes.
uhhh bwos? its not even a day yetwhy do people already bringing tanks and arty tanks into the field???
>>584627180Read the thread
What a disaster this game turned out to be. Not surprising, I guess, from the retards who thought the first sniper should not kill with a headshot if you bought a padded cloth helmet
>retard builds fob half outside the zone>entry is blocked>die at my 10th trip because hes being raided>the only fob we haveBack to dropping at the edge of the zone.
>>584624074Upon more consideration, you'd actually make it so each gold bar was worth 0.1 points, rounded down, so that 10 gold bars was worth 1 point. Then 10 bars minimum to make 1 pallet, pallets always in multiples of 10 bars with no remainder. Rewards are then 1/66th to depositor/holder, 1/122th to logi and 1/33rd split across team.Then up the gold spawn rate by 10x whatever it was going to be. Purely so you have a lot of dudes running around doing hold bar stuff and gold bar earning opportunities. The escalating inventory weight would also force teams off the HZ and to use vehicles to extract from HZ and reinsert in waves in a kino fashion.
it turns out I am a savant helicopter pilot right out of the box, with default controls tooI guess this is from all my years of using arrow keys to play flight simulators
Gaming has become just so fucking gay.Nolifer twitch culture has just made this hobby insufferable. Even looking at Shroud with his complete lack of chin, doing a 12+ hour stint, fills me with disgust.It's not even about having no job anymore, it's more about being a grown man who can justify playing games to this degree. How does an adult brain not even get bored or tired after even 6 hours?These people are hollow empty heads, nowhere to go, nowhere to be, nothing to do, nothing to accomplish. Like an amoeba that consumes it's surroundings just so it can survive the day.I'm thankful for this game ultimately, it was the one that broke the camels back, and really showed me just how faggy and timewasting this 'hobby' is.It's like I've snapped out of a very long sleep, and see just how fucking ridiculous this whole gaming culture is now.I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Honestly, we're currently experiencing the worst of both worlds. If it's a grind for everyone (and there's no stupid cheese) I'm fine with that. If everything's unlocked out of the box, I'm fine with that. This limbo where progressing is fast enough for a nolife and/or cheese to spawn tanks on you while you're physically incapable of acquiring a counter is ass.>>584630210>I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeSee you again next thread, brother.
i cant see shit in the rain fuck
Why does my PC stutter every time I close the game? I know it's the Elytra Service Logger, but why the offload lag? I know I'm not the only one whose PC hitches for a moment after closing the game.
>>584630210Shroud cheats though.
I am having a lot less fun this season.
>never cared for crypto>my first and only transaction was with coinbase last year>because this damn basket weaving forum only accepts crypto if you want a captcha pass>get a mail from coinbase today>dude we need your social security number lmao>it's for tax hahai'm feeling too old and paranoid for this shit
>>584630210Gaming used to belong to the nolife losers. You're the problem normalfag.
Played at least 8 games. Never seen rain.
>>584631442I uninstalled. Thought my lack of enjoyment the last couple weeks was just progression, but today I ealized I just don't like this shit. You're either absolutely dog walking the entire lobby with a 30 man zerg, or getting griefed. Try and build? Tanks, rats breaking in, mortar spam. Try and push hotzone with a small group? Picked apart by snipers in bushes or just run over by the zerg the instant you hit the front line.In maybe 1/10 games everything aligns perfectly and all 3 teams are balanced and playing roles and the game is actually fun. The rest, there's nothing to do but sit in a bush spotting or running useless logistics to rack up meaningless funny money.I suppose if you have a coordinated group of 10 people it would be fun, but literally everything is fun with friends.
>>584631852This. I'm sick of every game having to cater to "Dad Gamers" raise your fucking kid and do your job wagie. Nobody gives a fuck if you can only play an hour a day, if that's all you can do, play a game that isn't multiplayer.
>>584632026I've played two. As with every other change they made this season it only benefits assault.
remember when 4chan (rightfully) shat on casuals
i like the switch and change in weapons and unlockss1 was rather boring with me just using the free rifles all the timebut now i got the ak and bizon from the start, much more fun
>>584632076I've seen a lot of people repeat similar sentiments. It reminds me of Marvel Rivals and how a lot of people are utterly miserable playing it in 9 out of 10 matches but then that 1 match everything lines up and it gives you a big high. I've stopped playing and I'm going to wait for 1.0 once I realized that I'm playing the game with the hope that eventually I'll unlock something that let's me have fun. Ultimately I was looking for something to give me something close to the same feeling of pre-Wrel planetside 2 and I fell for the bait of retarded shitposters in this thread.
>>584632881i had fun with rivals for a few hours until i found the battle pass and shop, lost all will to play after that
>>584630210>wagies cry for faster progression>wagies cry when they get it
i'm trying to make enough money to buy a fobhope to get in a car with mounted weapons
>>584631261works on my machine
>>584633158>NEET child molester image>opinion discardedI will bisect your skull and piss & shit inside it you fucking faggot
we base nao. would have fuckin won if anyone actually had a big hammer.
>>584634569That's not how you use WOMM new-sama, I'm asking about the Elytra stutter.
What's the /wdg/ community server?
>>584633158Real. Though honestly the real problem wasn't that you had to grind too long, it was that you had to grind. Later tier gear is just too good and early game gear is complete dogshit. If you didn't/don't grind you're fucked and can't compete. Devs mentioned banning people doing xp exploits like the problem isn't the gear curve. Day one and we're already in the late wipe farm or be farmed stage where some fags already have tanks and other fags (like me) haven't even installed the update yet.
I don't really understand how you're supposed to ever use SMGs in this game when literally 95% of all battles are in assault rifle range
>>584636827you grab one along with an ied and raid fobs
>>584636827They have their niche. They're not great as all-rounder weapons but if you're staying in tight urban areas or playing FOB defender it will serve you well. Slap a muzzle brake on it if the recoil is too much.
>>584636827They're good inside FOBs. Also on maps like Zestafona they shine because the whole map is warehouses.
3 different servers, topfrag were snipers 100:1 headshotting in the rain from 800m away. This game has no anticheat.
>>584633158This is the reality of progression into a PVP shooter. It's shit. It's always been shit, and it will always be shit. But normalfags still somehow seem to enjoy it.
Can we just have planetside 2 back please? This faggot shit is so fucking gay. Why did planetside 2 have to die- oh wait it was chinese hackers also.Nuke china. Deploy the military against cheaters and scammers. Murder them in their homes.
>gear up and and spend several minutes in transit just to die to some fucking pre-aimed slant with ESPk bye
>the mortar "nerf" actually turned out to be a buff because the salvos take longer to endlol
>>584638248>set up in the middle of nowhere with monoscope>mortar lands directly on my forehead 10 seconds later after I stop movingthere is a way to do team v team v team sandbox games, and this is not it I get that it's early access but these are some really basic game design fails
yo get rid of that fucking zoom out every time you get a kill
nice ping limit brammerevery match still has some 3 digit ping chink with esp
>>584637442>>584637643>>584637656>>584637935>>584638248>>584638248>>584638396Stop demoralizing me I was just about to get on and try the patch
>>584638708Hope you enjoy it more than I did. Most of my games were full of sweaty faggots who were doing shit like rushing your tower top at start (and your team never has minigun little birds to counter with) or running around with class level 15+ unlocks, if not higher. Gear locked servers can't come soon enough.
>>584633158progression is just shit full stop, it's a literal console toddler mechanic. you could just have the money system without the boring as fuck xp grind
did they add the steam point shop with the update?
>>584640301yea, already got handed like 3 cards
>moonrunes in T3 armor drops on top of the tower>beams everyone in the base>no minigun lb to counter it >beams anyone who parachutes in>80:3 30 minutes in >gets reported by entire team>no kickI hope these devs wind up homeless.
>>584641385why didn't you just buy a riot shield a box him in?
>>584642319wut
>>584636061cute landing pad>>584642319riot shield would be sick
>>584630641I miss RS2's double barrel. It's one of the best shotguns in any game. Removes dudes easily up to 120 meters with buckshot. Meanwhile, we're stuck with the piece of shit that is pic related. Near point blank on a kodiak driver. Dude just face tanks buckshot, hops out of a speeding vehicle, and casually shreds me.
>>584638396There is definitely some kind of hack that aims the mortar for you. I've had multiple deaths where I set up a mortar pit in a forest and then get taken out in a single volley. Even if they spotted me and the enemy uses the mortar websites, it should still take a few shots to range in because of the difference in elevation. But they get me on the very first shot.
teammate dropped crates with the new rifle to buynever got to use it tho
>pilots clearly know how to land back at HQ>but landing in the zone?>they suddenly lose 50 IQ and either crash or land far from anything
>>584636061too bad those shelters take as long to repair as drills take to build
>>584644258That screenshot looks rough, do you mind sharing your specs? I'm not taking a shot at you or anything retarded like that, glad you're enjoying it really. I've been out of the PC building scene for a while and I have no idea how intensive this game really is.
I'm gonna say it, but I think they lied about having a vision.
My friend unlocked the tank and we're going to use it tomorrow but i fully expect everyone to have unlocked rocket little birds by then, rendering tanks useless
>>584644913use it now then retard
>>584644968its 3am and we are sleepy
>>584644371CZ has too many faggot ass invisible nooks and crannies that chop your rotor blades off if you happen to touch them in tight spaces, so only the best pilots dare to land anywhere that isn't an open street or a rooftop.
>>584644792got a 460ti and running everything on low, all effects offhave capped my fps at 75 and game runs smoothly
>>584645060chug some coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=716ZRDeac-sgame's soundtrack just dropped
>>584644913Thats why you're supposed to keep grinding until you unlock the Gepard artard. The tank is just temporary to bully the infantry, but the skies deserve terror too.
>>584645687anyone tested gepard against infantry?
>>584645783I only did some quick testing in the firing range. The bullets come out of two seperate guns(obviously) so getting pinpoint accuracy will be hard. But the bullets are pretty fast and it only takes like 40 to take out a little bird. Didn't test against other vehicles or players though
>>584645992>it only takes like 40 to take out a little birdWhat the actual fuck. A single 30mm was enough to reliably make WWII strategic bombers break up. Hitting a Little Bird with a 35mm is like shooting a mouse with a .50 BMG.Chat, am I grinding fucking Euro-Hardeep Simulator 2026 for an anti-air vehicle that is actually going to get farmed by any rocket LB or Havoc with a pilot who isn't completely retarded?
>>584645992does it get to use its tracking radar at least?
>>584646330To be fair it does shoot extremely fast. Not CIWS fast but you should be able to take out a heli in less than 3 seconds with good aim. The turret itself moves extremely fast too.>>584646776No I dont think so
>>584647427>in less than 3 seconds with good aimIt takes a tiny fraction of that for a helicopter pilot who isn't retarded to launch enough rockets into you to kill you.I'm uninstalling. If it's 40 for the LB it's going to be hundreds for the Havoc. Fuck this game and the retards who prompted it out of Claude.
>>584647532the stinky, untouchable hands of a bad actor typed this
is the t-72 good?
>>584644371You can take your time at the HQ, and you quickly memorize the area and approaches. Not so in the CZ.
>>584644371When you're at HQ you have low speedWhen you approaching the zone you have high speed
Can a chosen 5000 visionary explain what the purpose of LMGs serve after the gutting of large caliber ammunition damage and LMG torso multipliers?It's already at 1.5 times as expensive as assault rifles, double plus the weight, triple the ADS time, and 7.62/.308 is triple the price of 556.The Evolys has the same TTK as the M4. What is the point of these pieces of shits?
>>584647636Not really, it gets fragged by two RPG shots IIRC but it is a decently early unlock which offers some additional tools to put into your bag of tricks. There'll probably be some good spots to setup in to ambush enemy vehicles on their drive in. The armed Wolf is pretty fucking cracked though but extremely expensive to sustain so you need to split the costs between two people. Absolutely mulches little birds
>T-72 tanks can be bought from the start of the matchwhat is this bullshitdevs are asleep at the wheel
>some guy took apc>runs it into spawn helicopters>check his ping>200i thought chinks got region locked why can a 200 ping SLANTY EYED RICENIGGER join my glorious white (brown) server
>enter day 2 of season thinking it's going to be just as fun as the start of season 1>it's just tanks and attack hellis alreadylolwhat a terrible job they've donesee you at season 3 im not touching this crap
>>584648791>What is the point of these pieces of shits?Unlocked from the fobbit tree instead of the assault tree, so people who avoid playing a shooting game for 200 hours can still pretend they've made progress in a shooting game afterwards.
I'm finally starting to see The Vision™
>>584649103>muh shooting game>muh fobbits dont belongthis isn't call of duty lil gup
>>584649283Skill issue!!!!
I want to play vehicles but I don't have friends to play with
>buy a scout rifle and some ammo>head out and die>respawn, rebuy same loadout>sneak up on enemy fob, free kills>shoot one in the back and reload>nothing happens>the rebuy didn't give me ammoi somehow survived and stole an ak from a dead enemy
was too lazy to login today so now i'll have to wait for season 3
>>584649442your team are your new friends
>>584649791Same. I already got bored. I'll wait for GZW 0.5 release on Oct. 19th :^)
Its crazy to me that these faggot devs made a helicopter massacre simulator game even though everyone already knows what happens if you give skyknight trash a free farm.
>>584648825>it gets fragged by two RPG shots IIRCDoes that mean they also massively nerfed the durability of the Humvee? Because that thing could eat like four or five RPGs and if a full-on tank dies to just two then Brammer is spending more on coke that developing the game.
>>584650494lollmao!!!
>>584650494>Does that mean they also massively nerfed the durability of the Humvee?nah the tank is just super squishy to anything that can pen its armor.
>>584649283makes your head spin, don't it?
>>584650494I just don't understand why there isn't the option for different RPG munitions and shell types. Repurpose the anti-infantry bullshit we have now into HE. Add a second and tier for AP or HEAT so we can take out armored vehicles. It's ridiculous that you're more likely to disable a tank with a GL-40 opposed to the RPG.
wtf they removed blue welfare??
>>584650868>and tierI need to go to sleep, but I will die on this hill of needing AP rockets.
>"lone star">needing handouts to survivekek
>>584650585I mean, if the war in Ukraine has proved one thing, it's that the T-72 is a gigantic piece of shit
I seem to be dying less, maybe thermals were too powerful
>>584651019No one has unlocked thermals retard
>>584651375Yes exactly my point
>>584651375I looted a pair from a poopsock earlier. They're not extremely common yet but they are already here.
>>584650978The T-72 is a massive piece of shit against modern weaponry but the front armour profile is borderline immune to the model of RPG depicted in Wardogs.
>>584650978I don't know why anyone is suprised. Its from 1970 when the USSR was already dying. Its almost as old as the M60 Patton, the fact that theyre still using it in modern warfare is absolutely baffling
>>584652039the ussr was not dying in the 1970it all came crumbling mid-late 80s
>>584651481This is why the tank discourse is retarded. ALL progression got sped up with season 2. That means people will get the AMR and the FAL and the thermals and T4 much quicker, but the tank is just the most noticeable aspect because its only lvl 20 and well, its a giant tank.But people will have lvl 30 stuff by the end of the weekend and the devs will have to rush out the primitive servers so that people can actually play the early-midgame
If they dont reset progression again today Im uninstalling this game and making a lengthy steam refund request to see if I can get a cheeky refundWhats the fucking point in doing a progression wipe for the next few months if you enable an XP bug that unlocks the top vehicles day 1 for some players then disable it but let the players who already unlocked them keep the vehicles?
>>584652228The Brehzev era is literally called the "Era of Stagnation". Maybe the USSR didnt "lose power" in a traditional sense, but stagnating meant losing power compared to the rapidly advancing United States
>>584652419there's a difference between stagnation and something crumbling as you phrased it
>you have to spam walls and get killed by mortars for 10 hours before you are allowed to buy a weapon that can fight back against a tank or helicopter hmm, maybe I'll uninstall and ask for a refund instead
>I>just buy a 50 cal on a vehicle >oh that sounds fun actually let me go look it up- >ammo costs $60 per round
>tank unlocks before armed humvee>tank can be used before 20 points, humvee can notthere are certain decisions being made that should not require two seasons of data collection to get right
>>584653157The round cost is based on the AMR which only has a firerate of like 10 RPM. But then you introduce the deuce with a firerate of like 600 RPM. Its not going to work out
>>584650868Nobodys going to juggle multiple shell types just to preemptively counter something that might not even appear in game for 20 more minutes.Launchers are already dogshit and most rats chasing the cheese don't even have support leveled to buy any of them.Even if they did, you think asssaultoids will leave the fight in their 40k kit to respawn in base, buy 10k more shit against a vic that might already be dead by a rocket bird or fucked off to a different part of the map?Die on that stupid hill if you want.
>>584653157She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar, custom-tooled cartridges at ten thousand rounds per minute. It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon...for twelve seconds
>>584653063two at worst three matches, unless you are a turbo shitter
>>584654562I mean even if they are the same bullet you could just create 50.CAL AUTO and 50.CAL sniper categories, sell one for 60$ and the other for lessBuuuuuuuuut the devs are realismniggers so even if something makes complete sense from a game health perspective they wont do it because some retarded obese battledad retard on social media will go "IM 47 YEARS OLD AND A FATHER OF 4, I DID 3 TOURS IN AFGHANISTAN AND OUR SNIPER AMMO HAD THE SAME PRICE AS THE AMMO USED IN MACHINEGUNS, THIS IS COMMIE BULLSHIT!"
>>584655651Its not because of that, its because the games community is still pretty casual. The amount of times I requested tank ammo with the exact and the retarded little birds still brought me the wrong one or rpg ammo or maaws ammo. They made that even worse this update because the T72 uses russian shells instead of just standardising between the two tanks (even if its unrealistic)
>>584653701>tank dies to 2 rpg shots>humvee can tank 5 or 7 before dyingspawn requirements and unlock order seems in line with in-game performance.If you want to cry about realism take it to >>>/r/eddit.
>>584630210See you tomorrow
5k visionaries, will season 2 provide me a blast again or do the devs need to collect more data first?
oh yes come here my precious.at least i made of ton of money fobbing while i got the xp for this
Can't park there bud
>>584653701um well you see the tank is slow or something so it's fair
>>584649283GAS GAS GAS DEJA VU
>>584657342What is the tank's shell drop? Can you beam helicopters with it or is the main cannon impotent?
>enjoy the chaos of season one>"well, that was fun! I can't wait for season 2!">more chaos in season two>laugh a hearty laughIt would be just lovely if there was pic relatedI would love to go around screaming cultist quotes and chucking c4 at people hahaha :)
>>584657845>go around screaming cultist quotes and chuckingYou can't do that while you're dead from mortar spam
>>584649283uhm you stepped too hard on the gas pedal and didn't use your brake.Skissue.
>>584656369this is objectively untruewhy are you lying on the internet?
The fuck was this shit lol. Ping of 28 btw.
>>584658868You got caught in a data collection spike. Unlucky but happens to all of us.
>>584649283Is this the new tesla roadster
>>584659029b-but I was winning the gaym for my team while all the tryhard faggots were playing blue. What data of mine did they collect?!
>>584658868>he's not one of the 5,000sucks to be you
@grok translate this
Chinks already unlocked 50 cals and ir thermal in Asia region
>>584652264FAL and AMR were nerfed pretty good. Don't think the vector was. Rather see thermals removed though.
@anon"Shina maggots, get out of here! China is a rotten cesspool. Only a Shina society could breed such ignorant, immoral, and shallow maggots!"(Note: "支那" / "Shina" is a derogatory terms historically used to refer to China.)
Game desperately need gear cap for a period of time so casuals can catch up and play the game while the sweats can continue to grind so they instantly unlock the next phase gears when its up.>Week 1 T2 armor max with Level 15 unlocks only>Week 2 T3 armors only with level 25 max>Week 3 free for allThat's it. You can still enjoy the kino early tech game, sweats can still have their moment of pubstomping when the next phase is up and casuals can try to catch up on week 1 and 2
>>584659670i got you ching pong ding dong i eat dogs
>>584658868I'm also getting huge lag spikes of 800ms+ for a few seconds at least once per match. This didn't occur in S1 and I have a stable connection.Also started noticing sync issues with walls, ghost walls that exist according to the server but are invisible on my end.It probably looked like I was an idiot wallhacking, trying to shoot through a hesco wall.
>>584659679Chinx have locked servers where they farm xp/money. It's an open secret and the devs don't care.
>>584660103They're selling the powerlevel service too lmfao
>>584649283GEDDAN
>>584660163First week of S1 we had a bot join and spam all chat with it's RMT website AD.This will only get worse.
>>584659990Yeah, I never had any of that in s1. I didn't record everything, but I've had some rubberbanding issues on top of that, and I could have sworn a few hits I made with the SKS didn't get detected when my and some enemy had a peek and shoot match. Figured it was the server at first, but the same thing on a different server. I also had a hard crash last night, which never happened before. Feels like the (net)code has gotten significantly worse.
>>584660103>you are allowed to lock servers that make regular money/expwhatreally?
>>584660513Are you doubting the vision™ anon? Play. how. you. want.
oh yeah, now we're doing numbers
>>584659590ching chong ping pong nip nong to you too.
>>584660513You didn't know?lmao, lol
>go around tagging enemies with the scout sniper>never get any kills>but a minute or so later the assists come rolling in
>>584660807
>>584636827you aim at the enemy and hold fire
>"Failed to authenticate with online services" when I launch the gameIs there some downtime I'm not aware of at the moment?
so did they fix infranty only servers?I swear to GOD I will uninstall so fast if I see an armored humvee with a turret
>>584652039certain people glorify russian pieces of shit because they like to pretend USSR fell because of bad juju from the west and not being built around a fundamentally flawed systemcertain other people glorify russian pieces of shit because their enemy is the west and the west be gay and lets yucky women fight, while russian tech is manly, and rugged, and a piece of shit, like their dad
>>584662839I'm so sorry, anon. You've been deselected from the coveted 5000. Not sure if things are down. There are no announcements. Might be some steam service failing too, restarting steam fixes that.
>>584658868>meanwhile: the kid that wavedashed to school
>>584659679Other than farming serversHow the fuck do you level recon. You get like 15xp per spot. Maybe im just spoiled from doing logistics where you get a thousand xp from a delivery but this is absolute cock n ball torture.
>>584650870>wtf they removed blue welfare??In less than 12 hours, yeah
>>584663529Guys truck in supply palettes leveling driving.Other guy spots the pallets leveling spotting.Third guy mortars all the palettes for support xp, giving money and xp to recon and other truckers/leechers supplying him with ammo.
>>584664259Kind of genius
The Gepard sucks so fucking much. It can't aim even horizontally, let alone depress its gun. It takes 3 headshots to kill an unarmored enemy. 5 headshots vs 4 helmet. 4 shots vs unarmored chest. 7 shots vs 4 vest. It takes about 110 or so shots to kill a Havoc (5 full seconds of gunfire to the engines/transmission case).The Havoc has a lower TTK (using cannon+rockets) vs the Gepard than vice versa. These devs are... I don't even know what to say...
>join new match and holy shit only two guys buy a heli, now i can do it as well>fly a couple of trips, make 25k>map only have two towers and our team has only made one fob at the edge of the zone>buy a fob, go deep and place it near the center>team actually starts moving in
>>584664774You're too low IQ to understand their vision.
>>584664774wtf the anti air vehicle has been balanced to only damage helis and not people??
>>584665239Refer to >>584664914
>>584664774Nobody expected this.Oh wait!We all knew the AA tank would be a stinking pile of shit. The devs LOVE their helis.Gepard takes 5 FIVE! seconds of shots into a blackhawk to destroy.When havocs unlock we will have the same assrape we had in S1, but now AAs are even slower to build and cost more!>>584665239Too bad it's shit at killing helis too.
>>584665396helis make for good clips innit
i don't like dying, my options to stay alive>fly heli, not always an option if there are already too many helis>drive logistics, super boring >sniping works fine, but my .22 scout sniper just annoys enemies and makes them jump me
time to get sum gold
>no heli grenade spam>no humvee running around uncontested shootin and scootin like some invincible juggernaught>no arty faggotry >no BMR faggotsYou have to admit early season is best season
>>584666195Instead you get T-72 camping supply routes, ruining your delivery streak bonuses
>>584666195Enjoy it for 2 more days at best.Soon you will see 50cal niggers start selling their cancer in the hq.
>>584664259Technically thats farming if you do it on a mass scale with multiple drivers/a FOB etc. You only really need 3 people on foot.1 guy on the enemy team to deliver pallets, 1 guy spotting and 1 guy with IEDs/C4. You could even mix it up and drop crates from time to time to throw off any auto detection. And since its a new "spottable" each time, the spotting xp shouldnt start to decrease. Fuck thats genius.Now I just need 2 friends
See you in Season 3!
>die to MP5 reload being fucked AGAIN
>get to level 20 driver>I'll use this money to level infantry!>proceeds to waste it on unlocks>only 150k to start infantry with
>>584670014Cool it with the anti semitic remarks, goy.
>>584670112My 500k shekels...gone...
>>584669508Is there really any point to trying to level up in this game if you arent cheating/exploiting in some way?I just saw my first M4 and the guy was super sus and its the same story all around.Assault is just cheaters, Medic and Recon are just teamers, Driver is just people who exploited the driving buff.Support and Pilot are the only real "fair" classes that just require a lot of time invested, but their unlocks mostly suck or can't be resold to other players to make money so whats the point.
10/10
>>584670450Honestly the driving buff wasn't even that noticeable. I'm employed and got my tank after grinding my shift because I always intended to use Logi to fund fucking around otherwise. Got held hostage a lot in game because the server I leveled on still had Blue Bonus hours after kill switched but no one wanted red or green. Still took like, 9 hours even after having to wait 30 minutes for a game.
>>584566970is tarkov fun? if your answer is no then stay far away from this game and dont touch it no matter whatever hype or fomo you think you have. its really not that good anyway and i dont see such a toxic design surviving anyway, at least not better than tarkov itself does today
>>584670450>if you arent cheating/exploiting in some way?Questioning that myself. There are shifty motherfuckers everywhere, and not in the nuanced sense. I'm talking shitters that don't even attempt to hide it. The devs talk big about bans and le big bad cheaters, but there's no actual impact of that in-game. Every match it's the same shit at least once, unless you get in on strictly moderated community servers, which always have queues, so you got that to deal with.
>>584666684I have a handy three-step process for that situation:>Step 1: build Stingray directly outside of safe zone>Step 2: shoot Stingray at T-72s>Step 3: repeat Step 2 until no T-72s
>>584672487>just shoot the tires!!!
>>584566970Yes if you're into military multiplayer shooter games. No idea why that other anon brought up Tarkov. I hate Tarkov but I enjoy Wardogs.
>>584673035Nigga the game gives you a weapon that can oneshot tanks from the other side of the map and if you refuse to use it when you're having tank trouble then it's your own damn fault.
>>584672487how much does ZT-72 pay out?
>>584673435The mechanics are similar to Tarkov, but the gameplay loop is completely different.
>>584670749It definitely was, as someone who does a lot of driving in this game. At full streak you got 7.5k cash per double pallets, assuming xp scales the same thats 50% faster than Season 1. On top of the already faster progression its probably almost twice as fast.>>584671992Whats even worse is that you can't tell due to the scale of the games playerbase and the size of the servers. At 100 players, even with a very conservative cheater rate of 5%, thats still 5 cheaters. On seperate teams they would be noticeable, on the same team the entire game is ruined. And thats just obvious cheaters with ESP or Aimbot. For exploits and abuses that number must be way higher.In that dev interview yesterday they said 1000 people were abusing some crate exploit to farm driver/pilot levels. Even with that lowball estimate, that's one person with maxed driver/pilot on every server in the game.
>>584673959The number of people soft cheating is really high. Cheating has gotten prevalent enough that a lot of retards say "everyone else is doing it, I'll just get walls so I can even the scales."
>>584670749>15 levels from a singe gameYou're right, I haven't noticed.
not this shit again
>>584665396We really won't. The projectile speed on the MAAWS was already fucking insane and they still made it slightly cheaper and easier to get. The havoc is gigantic and easy to hit with it. No circle strafing for Havocs (MAAWS) and no stand-off fighting (gunner has bad dispersion and Verba is still decent over the Talon). Havoc reward should have also been increased this season I think, so the thing is basically just a flying moneybag already. Havocs are a huge opportunity to make money so they shouldn't be so annoying with progression being way too fast and MAAWS being easy to get, therefore it will be other endgame stuff that will be annoying when playing infantry (which ironically was infantry metas late last season, but I have no idea what it will be this time)Maybe transport GL will make a slight comeback despite it's nerf, but that's about all I can think of right now. Oh, actually, there was a lot of nerfs (and buildable additions) that made building a big and well protected base that's harder to mortar now a viable strategy so you will probably see that (cancerous drill / fob meta) for a week or two despite the changed build costs (at least for as long as people are willing to do supplies still), and that will probably last until people realise how good the increased FOB kill rewards are. The devs are probably trying to force people to play alternative objectives to HZ hugging, just a guess though
>>584674187Just delete blue and make the game 50v50, the most popular community servers do that.
>>584674187Has Brampton mentioned in any of his self-fellating dev streams why they won't do a simple XP/cash boost for a random team option?
>>584674274You gotta be fucking retarded low flying scrub to get hit by the maaws IF anyone even bothers to buy one, and havoc takes 2 maaws.
they could easily fix the team problem by obfuscating which team is which when selecting one to joinof course they'd have to change some other aspects too like the pre-round spawning because otherwise you could easily cheese the obfuscation by seeing what base you're spawning in then switch to a different teamperhaps they could add one giant neutral pre-round camp that everyone spawns out before the round starts
>people out here complaining about the t-72it's all former havoc pilots complaining, isnt it?
>>584664774>110 or so shots to kill a Havoc (5 full seconds of gunfire to the engines/transmission case).lolololol I almost spent 300k unlocking that dogshit, glad I decided to hold off until the reviews were out. Rather have that go towards a gold bar. If a havoc can't either retreat or deal with a gepard with five seconds of time (assuming the gepard doesn't miss a single bullet on a moving vehicle) then what is even happening at that point???
Taking out launcher from vehicle inventory is now 5s, in line with Talon nerfhttps://litter.catbox.moe/1t60jq1aiaxa2uyx.mp4
>>584674291You don't even have to delete blue. Just rotate which team is vs which team. One game is Red v Green, next is Red vs blue, etc. Opens up more potential on game modes too like control points or attack and defend.
I guess the best weapon against lbs this season will be a well placed browning or mounted browning. And the best AA against havocs will once against be the now-more-accessible dumbfire launcher. You could argue the Gepard is good vs LBs but once the havocs come out who is going to want to roll that to the battlefield for five minutes of life?
>>584675823yea someone mentioned it earlier, pretty gay. As a certified heli rapist would you even consider using gepard?
>>584676159We had plenty of lbs in the age of havocs last season.
>>584676357No. Gepard sucks ass. IT takes 5 seconds of uninterrupted shots to kill a blackhawk and that means if you can't theoretically land all your shots on the havoc you will have to reload to fully kill one.Mind bogglingly retarded.
With this game, what would even be considered adequate for anti air measures that people would feel is fair? It seems like most people want some insane shit like "An RPG to the fuselage of the Havoc should kill it." which seems insane to want to me. Like what is the happy medium? People obviously don't want choppers and helis to feel like paper but feeling helpless to do anything to them is probably bad too.
>>584676109>blue vs [not blue]>[not blue] is full>find another serverthis solves what exactly?
>>584676621none, fuck infantkek gegggg
>>584676621>"An RPG to the fuselage of the Havoc should kill it."yeah?
>>584676621>adequate for anti air measures that people would feel is fair?50ish AR caliber rounds to the rear rotor should cause the LB to enter a spin and the pilot to lose control. More for the Havoc, maybe 100ishIt would require accurate, sustained fire from one person or a squad all spending ammo to hit itThat would give infantry a legitimate way to fight back against low-flying choppers, encourage higher altitude (and thus less overwhelming) attacks from the choppers, and make anti-air FOBs viable
>>584676621The problem is that currently everything that (actually) counters air is reactive.You do your own thing but suddenly 2 havocs are raping you, now you have to take time off what you were doing, back to base and buy their "counters".For everything else you can somewhat prepare.That's why they also nerfed mortars. The first team to build mortars could oppress the whole map for the rest of the game. But somehow havocs are okay.
>8 urals, are you mad?>stop building and get to hz!!!Fobbits always win
>>584678983>Morters you into paste with my 3 gooner friends from our shittier fobbit-hole that'll never be assaulted because your team sit around doing nothingTee-hee
>>584676621remove nose gun from havok, make it a spotter seat or something.
>>584676621The slowly circling around infantry tanking everything shit is not how helicopters work at all.
>>584680171zigger cope
so how is Bakurani any better for blue now?
>>584680381There's a new road that's basically a straight shot into the CZ
>>584680473I don't think getting to HZ is the problem, but guess I'm just not part of the chosen 5000.
>>584674150>"everyone else is doing it, I'll just get walls so I can even the scales"My version of that is "Everyone else is doing it, so I quit." and I'm assuming I won't be alone. I've got some tolerance left because of EA and such, but afaik they have done little to address this outside of banning some Chinese farmboys and """""collect ze data."""""" Oh, and making a big fuss when a streamer did some kind of nono, but that was a temp ban anyway. 0 impact. >>584673959I'm sure I ran across 1000 soft cheaters without even realizing it. Outside of the stuff you mentioned, the vertical progression on itself makes it harder again to detect cheaters. You might get wallhacked and aimbotted and still leave the fight thinking he just got you because he got the OP gun.
>>584680381Blue is actually extremely blue sided now. Green and Red literally have to drive up mountains back to base while blue has a completely straight and level road.On top of that blue has the south church which is now super easy to secure
>>584674414they are probably struggling to vibe code that.
>>584680805>Blue is actually extremely blue sided now
>>584680805>drive up mountains back to baseWrong! You can drive up from the road and drive DOWN mountains from base
does the sks come with any good scopes?can unlock it now but won't if it doesn't have a better scope than my scout sniper
>>584681025Blue things are blue
>>584681824
>>584681967>Blue da bu dee tape is exclusive to Blue teamI mean it makes sense but its kinda bullshit that it costs more than all the other tapes to unlock and 2/3rds of the teams cant use it
i just want to drive vehicles with mounted weaponsonly thing i miss from hell let loose, loved to drive those tanks and get in good positions for the gunner
>>584682654We all want to live out our power fantasies anon.
>>584680381It's literally just that green and red no longer have 40% of the map each near their hq, and it's instead now a true 3-way split. Greencels are already acting like the sky is falling now that they no longer have half the map to themselves
This season is pretty bad bros.
>7 man group of irl friends>3 of us play infantry while the rest snipe>the snipers are always bragging about how they're ripping the leaderboard despite providing 0 counter sniping value and holding 0 space>even have the audacity to yap about "ummm guys, can we get to the fucking hotzone, what are we still doing here??" while we're fighting for our lives
>>584684212>snipers>caring about hot zoneyeah your friends are shit snipers
>>584683631And yet somehow still better than season 1
>STILL didnt add "you were spotted" to damage log
What is the point of small transport vehicles like the Wolf(no gun), Kodiak(no gun) and Humvee(no gun)? No one ever seems to want to ride in my cars and instead want heli rides or APC. Then, nobody seems to want to buy anything from small crates. So what the fuck am I even doing?
>>584675823Have you tried playing the objective?
>>584685080Because nobody in reality wants to wait 5 minutes to get to the circle when they can get there in 1.Also god forbid if you crash in a non-humvee with more than yourself, you WILL get bullied.
getting a dx12 unsupported error now since s2 patchwtf
>>584682276>Still no Creedence tapes in the helicopters
>>584684775This but it's not
>>584676621>some insane shit like "An RPG to the fuselage of the Havoc should kill it."kek "insane shit", wait until you hear about airburst RPG-7s and how they caused the blackhawk down incident
>>584685080The kodiak exists for you to use when you don't have anything else unlocked. The other ones are completely pointless
>only die a few times a match>outside the stray random shooting me from the side, it's always some guy prefiring me around a corner>this will usually be the only person that kills me consistently the entire match>check the scoreboard>they're always top 3 with the most kills and the least deathsthis is my experience in literally every single match i've played. 99% of gunfights are completely normal and then there's always just one guy who never dies and prefires everything and is the only guy to ever kill me more than once. i'm not exaggerating when i say this is my exact experience every single match
>door closed +75 $lmao what
>>584685080driving around with your squad basicallythe humvee is armored as well so it offers protection if you want to assault a position and get up close on it without getting shreddedthe small crates are generally pretty useless unless you're on a good team that has extended control of the HZ, then dropping meds and ammo to The Blob usually ends up with some decent salesI've also had some success pre-positioning sneaky small crates filled with C4 and detonators next to enemy fobs in bushes for any enterprising sneaky snakes that want to give it a go
>>584685887Don't forget how a single RPG hit took down a Chinook TWICE in Afghanistan. And the Chinook is a lot beefier than any helicopter in this game.
>>584686478wardogs is full of cheaters, like FULL of it, I think given how prominent cheating is and lobbies having 66 opponent's there's basically a 100% chance there's a cheaterthink of how prominent rage cheating is in cs2, then consider for every rage cheater there's 10 "legit" cheaters (walls, radar, aim control, autoshoot), then consider those matches have 10 players and we have 10x that
>>584686772i do want to say the chink quarantine helped somewhat with the more blatant onesalthough ping limit should be 150 not 250 or whatever it is now because i STILL get chinese sometimes with 200 ping
>>584686478it's pretty obvious when someone is using esp in this game. they'll always be holding the perfect angle and miraculously have only 1-2 deaths despite being a lone wolf in the hotzone the whole match. in any given lobby, the scoreboard will look normal from 5-100, but the top 5 will always be some waller with 100+ ping if it's not a guy doing some weird fob the builder exploit or selling a shit ton of crate guns. the ping limit didn't do anything, i see people with 300 ping and they're still top of the lobby
>>584685220>a helicopter with 6 dudes in it will crash and they all respawn and get in the same pilots heli instead of getting a carPlayer base is abuse victims for sure. What kind of psycho will get in the same heli being piloted by the mother fucker that can't land and just crashed?
>>584686845I play on US-west at night and there is zero reduction in changs or cheaters. If anything it's worse, actually. Usually I play on a community server where the admins just ban these niggers, and it's honestly incredible how many more "is that guy cheating?" moments I get in official servers
>>584685080The Humvee would be useful for mobility within the CZ (i.e. quickly moving a squad of guys to flank the enemy team in relative safety), but I don't think I've ever seen anyone ever use it that way.
>>584686745I think the only way a chopper can remain in the air after an RPG hit is if the chopper is big enough to have non-critical areas for the RPG to hit
>>584686903>i see people with 300 ping and they're still top of the lobbyliterally 300 ping >>584638706not sure what the limit is but it needs to be lower. i get they have some wiggle room for ping spikes, but if someone is spiking over and over they need to flag that too, not just "has over x ping for x seconds"
This game is so funIm having so much fun using the sks which got nerfed for absolutely no reason and now takes 4 body shots to kill against t1 armor while there are people who already have the sv98 and bmr unlocked and ap ammo and 1 tap youThis game is so fun guys Im having such a blast I love it because its so fun and funny and Im having such a blast and so much fun and its so cool and fun and blastcore
>>584686991They're addicted to the feeling of convenience that the short helicopter ride gives them, that's all it is. The thought that a ground vehicle is safer and can be used to drive them directly into a tactically advantageous spot as opposed to jumping out vaguely over the area and hoping for the best simply does not occur to them because in their minds faster = better no matter what.
>>584686991Fun fact about this game is if you go AT mines everyone will stop using ground vehicles. If you are actually good at AT mine placement you will mine the roads then study the map to put them in places they will go to avoid AT mines. You will also probably get death threats.
>>>584686478Yeah, cheats are super common. To make matters worse, the game does absolutely nothing to resolve the enormous advantage high ping gives you when peaking, so a lot of times if you're holding a corner even legit changs are getting an extra .2 seconds to react and shoot before the server even shows them coming around the corner on your end
>>584687821biggest skill issue post, open up fortnite unc
In rain pilots can't see missile trails. So that's nice.https://streamable.com/vldqhe
>round starts, red team>ask what the plan is, dead silence>decide to go medic instead of packing maaws>lb pilot flies below parachute level, ignores drop off request>puts us down in the open so all of us are perma spotted, 2 guys get picked off midair>throw smokes to try and rez but we get ambushed from behind by a tank and I get fucked as i enter smoke>teammate comes in, takes my shit and runs off to die a minute later>by the time I get back in the zone with a maaws the tank is nowhere to be found and nobody ever spot it>next 20 minutes is me clutching my deadweight launcher waiting for a single opportunity to get a heli or a humwee>game endsMany blasts were had, straight into my anus.
JUST BUY A FUCKLOAD OF ROCKETS AND HIT THE TANKS YOU CHU-...ACK![Killed by Chang from 600 meters]
>>584688696na pretty sure you can still see them in third personbut yeah in first person the rain is a big nerf to pilots albeit pretty kino
>>584688050oh i know, i used to play siege competitively i have terminal aids now, i've been mindbroken to push the corner first. that's what makes me laugh, i'll push a corner and I'LL be the one to die instantly to some 300 ping cocksucker across the map, no shot they heard any footsteps. like that doesn't even make any fuckin sense outside of software-assistance kek
>>584688318>tfw you get owned by team broccoli neverfucks what r thooooooooooooose
Why is it that when you're spotted, everyone can see where you go for the next 15 seconds? I thought this wasn't CoD or BF?It's almost like these devs don't actually know what they're doing or something. Sa Matra is probably rolling in his grave
>>584688805>get blown up by tank mid buiding>insta reset, buy rpg, instantly pull up with the counterplay thru APCt.everyone, noffin personel, get war strategized
>>584687235Ironically the Chinook is one of the only helicopters that would meet that criterion.
they need to increase point ticks after a certain point, currently in a 2h30m match alt tabbing into it to move slightly every 10 minutes because these devs are too fucking stupid to let you keep xp rewards if you leave mid match
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>>584689942i think the game would be 10x more playable if they just removed spotting altogether. fucktarded mechanic, just discourages people from engaging with the game and makes it feel like everyone is cheating
i will continue to use the ww1 rifle until morale improves
>>584690656every youtube thumbnail looking the exact same now lol, yellow and white text with the game logo and some airbrushed increased-fov scene
>>584691189Because they're ai generated
>>584691189>>584690656>Computer, generate me a thumbnail for my Wardogs video that follows YouTube's algorithm trendsit's fine if someone doesn't want to put effort into things but it's insulting they think we have no standards
>>584690656> _________ GamesHooooly shit someone must have purchased Ninja's book on how to be a top streamer because the non-stop creativity of these troglodytes is just awe inspiring. Like holy cow, just fill me with cum already
>>584691189we must go back to the good old days for blue and orange
>>584691457people are somehow genuinely getting stupider. i know the Idiocracy bit is played out but god damn
>>584690065I wonder if it feels more or less shaky and deathly dangerous to fly that thing when compared to a smaller chopper.They all shake and vibrate and make you wonder if getting in it was the last mistake you ever did in your life.
>>584690656Break action rifles were at least 70 years out of date by the time of WWI.
>>584691902>i know the Idiocracy bit is played outit's really not
>>584674274Kill yourself. The havoc should be even more expensive. >b-but I m-might get shot down immediately Yeah, and you also might farm gamerdads 50-0. Famine or feast.
>>584691902It's worse than idiocracy. People see it's all going to shit but ignore the problems hoping the wall doesn't hit in THEIR generation.
anyone know when the first 2x or better scope is unlocked?i miss my acog from s1
>>584690656>>584692337and the scout rifle happens to be one of the worst rifles the game could have as a starter sniper.Even pre-ww1 break action rifles were better.Literally almost anything else in the same caliber is better, even a bolt gun for cattle that operates on 556 charges
>>584693609snipers will always be op so break action is a smart balance trick
Put in my refund request. Here's hoping.
>>584695104youre still going to post player numbers even when you stop playing right? don't leave us...
>>584695104let's see that hour count mate
>>584693802Aside from there being no requirement to ever use it. It should be a free weapon, if anything.
any of you guys play the 50v50 community servers?thats my favorite version of the game so farless aids not having a third fuck off team fucking your shit for no reason
>>584697720>gets gangraped incessantly for the rest of the match if your team ever gets wipedit's good for farming spotting exp ig, but I wouldn't call it "good"
>2 matches in row with havocs making appearanceI think that was enough wardogging for this season.
>>584697720That's all I was playing toward the end of S1.>>584698674 is right. They can be incredibly one sided, but when they aren't it's much better than 3 teams.
WHY WON'T PEOPLE BUY WHATS IN MY SMALL CRATES!!!!!! FUUUUCK!!!!!
>>584686478You ever notice how its always some guy with a simple single word name as well?Why do they do that? Is it a chinese thing, is it to make it harder for you to find their steam account since you can't do it ingame?
>>584701548>simple single word nameYou can anonymize your name in settings retard
>>584691189Its better than all the jackfrags clones who all use the same thumbnail of "gun inspection in high def".Not by much but still
>>584701841Yeah I know fuckwit, but these guys don't have the identification tag in the killfeed as if theyre using streamer mode. They just name themselves shit like "Wizard" or "Dragon" on purpose
>>584701021This is starting to piss me off too desu, I'm not even trying to make a profit.>load little-bird with 2 crates, fill them with bandages, resuscitators, grenades and loose ammo for common weapons>25% markup>drop crates right in front of a cluster of teammates who fully dominate HZ, other teams are fobbing>nobody even looks to see what's inside>-$9,000I swear some of these fuckers think crates harbor the plague and nothing else.
>>584702120>Yeah I knowYou didn't
>>584609134This game is cooked lmao
>>584702481Blame Bulkhead. If you didn't need to deliver 5,000 crates to level pilot/driver people wouldn't drop off worthless crates with 15 building supplies all over the map. If 90% of crates have nothing in them why would I bother looking inside the ones that do? People are trained to ignore them.
>>584701021>>584702481Because the whole concept was always stupid. Just like the gold market. Just like gambling on performance.
>>584702481I'm old, I feel physical pain when I see something for sale that is obviously priced higher than normal.People also always overprepare so unless you see a group absolutely wrecking the other 2 team for 20 minutes nobody needs to resupply their shit considering they can loot the ops bodies.The only time I bought from a crate was a maaws when a humwee was pinning us and an lb dropped it, but by the time I finally got to buying it the humwee fucked off and we got slowly wiped out.
all these fucking pilots who didn't get the parachute memo
>>584609134my maws is eating GOOD this season
>>584707730I never buy parachutes and just jump onto my team. The helinigger gets a teamkill assist penalty and no pilot XP, and an infantry player gets medix XP and cash.
>>584708821Based.
i'm just gonna wait for the gear capped servers my nigs i can't be fucked
>>584707730thats why i refuse to take a ride this early in the season
>merge driver and pilot, rename to logistics>merge medic into support>merge recon and assault, rename to infantryI fixed the leveling system.
>>584709972>>merge medic into supportthats retarded
>>584709972>recon and assault, rename to infantryno. that's fucking stupid
>>584710769Why?>>584710864Why?
>>584709972If anything logistics should be driving, repairing, and building.
>>584711096Yeah but that's way more effort than modern devs are capable of.
>>584710992if you're going to lopped recon into infantry then you might as well put medic there as well. now you have...... infantry and logistics.... loooooooooool
>>584675823i just take a few out and put them on the ground
>>584709972What problem do you think this fixes? This makes the grind problem worse, unless you don't increase XP reqs, in which case it makes the Havkc-on-day-2 problem worse.
>rainy map>bunch of peeps with sniper riflesyou told me recon was cucked in this shit. they're rampant.
we FIFA now. This is actually pretty fun.
>page 7>friday night>last post was nearly 20 minutes agoI don't feel so optimistic about the longevity of this game anymore.
>>584717631They had their opportunity to ping lock China, and they made their choice.
>>584711804Your right. Just infantry and logistics would be based.
>>584717631Still over 300k players chudenstein
>>584717631its almost like people do thing on friday nights
>>584652317it ain't even exploits, they just put the tank at lvl 20 driver so it's easy to unlock.
>join one of these legendary community servers that solve all the problems i've heard so much about>Insta-ban: private profile hides account age (180 days minimum)banned before i loaded in for having a friends-only steam profile kek nice one
>spend all my money on fob at beginning of match>retarded heli tries to fly under a bridge and kills everyone
>>584710992NTA, but...>Why?Why does Recon, which almost exclusively unlocks items for avoiding infantry combat, sit in the infantry tree?>Why?Why does Medic, which unlocks infantry sights and which has to be with infantry to get XP, sit in a non-infantry tree?
>>584701021>>584702481Stopping to check out crates in HZ is often not worth the risk of getting killed unless the pilot manages to drop them in a very sheltered area, which is mostly just luck since you can't hover for long in the HZ.Crates in the FOB don't get unloaded because it's a pain in the ass to run back and forth carrying supplies, especially when most people are still using small backpacks.Even loading a tank or arty from crates is a chore and drivers often don't bring a backpack with them anyway. And again it's risky to stop and get out of your vehicle to unload crates.For infantry there's not really a good solution, but for FOB supplies you should be able to run up to the crate and click on the supplies to unload them directly into the FOB, similar to pallets but slower. For vehicle the driver should be able to access nearby crates without exiting the vehicle.In the mean time, one of the better selling items that you can unlock pretty quickly are tier 3 hammers if you drop them in a FOB. But of course, there is still only so much demand.
You can see crate contents on the map (when you hover over a crate)
I just tried SMGs in the range properly for the first time and they're totally worthless because of insane horizontal recoil. The only usable ones are the AMP (now at level 20 lol, thanks Bulkhead) and the Vector, and all the rest are literal trash. There is no reason to ever use any of these except for memes or if you're hard stuck for medic levels before getting stim. They're super badly designed noob traps - they seem easier to use than assault rifles for a bad player because of lower vertical recoil, but the horizontal recoil is huge and unmanageable no matter how good you are, and they have trash bullet velocity, TTK and mag sizes. They're just unmitigated trash.
>>584722389So you can get infantry xp without having to feed your cock into a meat grinder if your entire team decides to fobbit.So you can get support xp while playing zone and without having to click yellow Xs for 30 hours.
>>584724316Why are either of those things good for the game, as opposed to convenient for you?
>>584721703how many servers did you have to go through to find one to have a problem with so you could make this post?because my steam profile is private and I've been playing since day 1, often on random community servers, and this has never happenedYou should probably kill yourself
>>584724587Is your IQ really that low You can't fathom anyone having a different experience than yours? Did you have breakfast this morning?
>>584724587literally the first one i tried lad
>>584724424The reason people do stupid shit like dropping 500 crates at the edge of the zone is because it's impossible to progress naturally. If there were more ways to earn xp through different gameplay types it would allow people to "play their way" and not feel like they are wasting their time. If you were progressing towards the BMR while playing zone you wouldn't need to sit around looking at helicopters with binoculars for IRL days. The general idea is to allow players to progress while actually playing the game instead of repeating some utterly pointless task.
>>584725156Your post is completely wrong and based on superficial and lazy reasoning. The correct fundamental answer to why these things happen and an example of how to fix them is at:>>584613770>>584624074
Great firewall of china for china and russians. China bc mostly cheaters (the few regular chinamennwere actually quite nice tho). Russians bc I am tried of joining an eu server and 1/3 of the names are in cyrillics and 90% voice chat & 100% team chat is in russian. Griefers always seem to be russian and god forbid you build something while Ivan is close, he WILL run in to your hammer, take 3 seconds to register the damage done to him and then gun you down for no reason. How the fuck are they even getting the game, I thought they only infested f2p games and cs??
I got this game last week. I'm having fun reviving people and generally messing around.Why are you faggots so mad all the time?
Split driver, pilot, support, medic, assault and recon into two new classes eachNow you have 12 tracks to level.
>>584726287>generally messing aroundOof. Big mistake not focusing unlocks during your playtime. You are in for a nasty surprise a few days from now.
>>584726438They should add a reloading skill. Then we will get entire teams doing reload drills in the base.
>>584717631These types of games attract people that actually play the game instead of being vapid trannies that ERP all day and try to groom children instead of playing their general's game.
>>584726918brampton won't send you a pm thanking you for sucking his dick this hard on a bumplimit'd thread
>>584726918Are you ok?
>>584727627
>>584727737go outside and take a deep breath you utter loon.
>>584727737Anon mentioned the state of the general. You're frothing at the mouth about trannies. Are you ok?
>was in last place since me and the boiz are spamming logi>retard fobbits figure out what fuel is for>win with huge comeback
>refund request deniedTime to kidnap the devs and sell their asses to the Ukrainian military, I guess.
>guy gets 80 kills (second most in the lobby at this point was in the 40s) and every single one of them is a headshot, no exaggeration>somehow doesn't get banned????
>>584731217He was an ascended one after witnessing the vision™Blessed is he who believes in the vision™Headshots upon all those who resist the vision™Let us pray for this man's wretched soul. May he, for one day, lay his eyes upon the vision™.
>>584731217obviously the anticheat is gathering data before doing a ban wave on all cheaters.
>big plan to unlock BMR and sell in spawn >get 16 recon first day>power outage for the whole second dayMy gold bars...
>>584734963UA?
