Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9663 - dEdman Edition==NEWS==>Discord server for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>Support BoC!https://bookwalker.jp/series/568134/list/Previous Zone: >>584531346
*headpats your OC*
Douge
Shadria!
>>584575263Yeah. Emotionally fragile speaking now, I get my autism semantic-ism all writhed and traumatized up itself with that miscreant word, "baggage", and I think people could just go look better figurative synonyms (whilst my hypocrisy is showing with lording myself on buzzword "buzzword"). Background, backing, filling, so much in our thesaurus. Srry if I had worded up before as condescending haha.
>>584576716Japan actually likes Disney so that won't happen
I think Sega should add a character who is much more powerful than Sonic and Shadow just because
>>584576773>>584576845>shadougefag spamming alreadyTouched a nerve last thread huh?
>>584576218Crossworlds was the biggest example but also Iizuka saying “we want Sonic to be as big as Disney” and “as a corporate principle, the characters’ relationships to each other will remain the same”.
Sonic Channel is uncanon and should not be trusted anymore.
Cutting off Blackwood's limbs and turning them into sausages meat
If Iizuka wants to make Sonic like Disney, is he aware of how people shit on Disney nowadays? That will happen to Sonic too if he doesn't learn how to treat the IP correctly
>>584577263Chris Hernandez…
Shadow doesn't care about Rouge.
Krack melty uh oh
>>584577489Iizuka is a sleepy retard who should not have power over the franchise at large
>>584577484Why do all that when with just a bit of force and bitch slapping you can turn him into your submissive husband instead?
>>584577489People have been shitting and mocking the Sonic series for decades so that's nothing newOnly difference is that people shit on the IP but not the company itselfWas any of the 2000s and 2010s hatred for Sonic ever target towards Sega as a company and how they operate?
Sonic not good.
>>584577703Iizuka only has this power because no one else wants too
>>584577740Starline pls
tails needs to hang out more with knuckles.they cute
>>584578143>cowering Tailsheheheh
>>584578028Blobians bad… not good.
>>584577992Back when Sonic Team had guts and testosterone
>>584578143Agreed, but it shouldn’t give Tails the Forces treatment to happen
>>584578117
>>584578143If I was a Tailsfag I would oppose it. Knuckles raw masculine energy would make Tails unable to grow as a person
*beats up your OC*
>>584578585I disagree as a Tailsfag, Knuckles could help Tails get stronger much like Piccolo and Gohan. Except it shouldn’t be out of fear or self-doubt from Tails’ side, but a desire to be the best possible hero he can be
>>584577489His quote was referring to Disney's characters/series being iconic worldwide and being a big deal, not Disney as a company.
>>584579303*marries your OC*
THIS LIST NEEDS YOUR VOTEhttps://www.thetoptens.com/sonic-hedgehog/prettiest-sonic-hedgehog-girls/
>like DisneyDoes that mean we revive the other Sonic Team IPs for good??? Disney is more than Mickey and friends.
>>584579712lollmao even
Sonic NEEDS to have freedom. He cannot survive without it. It is what makes Sonic tick, and without it, he's just like a broken clock.
Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge. He sees her as a tool useful for achieving his goals and that's it.Rouge is constantly manipulating Shadow and exploitating his ptsd to get what she wants.Only ship Sega has labeled not canon. Shadow will only ever love Maria. Rouge was literally made for Knuckles.
>>584577898Just Sonic Team
>>584580473>this cope again
>>584580596>no rebuttal
Nobody cares krack, get a job fatty
What happened to Quark and Krack
>>584580473>Rouge was literally made for Knuckles.Knuckles doesn’t give a shit about her
What happened to Whispercel
>>584581248........uuuuuuu
>Sega wants Sonic to be popular in Japan>They even had a project around it and still try to this day>Japan prefers cute animal mascot characters>Sega was worrying that Sonic would become just another cute animal mascot character>They didn't want that for Sonic so they redesigned him to look cooler and less cute>Years later they make a miniseries aimed at Japan where they take that cooler redesign that was meant to prevent Sonic from becoming another cute animal mascot and make it look like another cute animal mascot character>Instead of just changing the main Sonic's design to look cuter so you no longer need to have a separate cuter look for Sonic to attract japsWhat exactly does Sega want here?They want Japan to like Sonic but they don't want to fully change how the series looks so that it would actually appeal to them. They are not gonna lose the western audience anyway if the made Sonic look cuter, especially if he has mix of cool and cute like he originally hadSo what's the problem here?
what thr fuck is this dialogue lmaoremember when we liked the first issue?
>>584581169Dougebag....
>>584581745Japanese fans like 2000s era Sonic
>>584581795>remember when we liked the first issue?no?
>>584581795
>>584581169wrong
>>584581169Neither does Shadow
>>584581795Well this is just terrible
Stacyiona!
>>584582198
im thinking about making a modpack for sonic crossworlds that just adds a bunch of chars over the cybernetic skins. how many modelers does the fan comunity have?
>>584581795Someone pointed this out the last chapter, the writer only saw the movies or something, that's why Knuckles act this way
>>584582415
>>584582756FINALLY FRESH MEAT, ROOAAR!!!
>>584582069But they do like Sonic's redesign over the old one?Japan even prefers Mickey and Felix over Sonic who was his design inspirations which Sonic's Classic design looked closer to
https://files.catbox.moe/erqy53.jpgthe fate sonic deserves
>>584583285Blackwood has gone too far!
>>584581795The only people who liked the first issue were amyfags who liked that she was "the heart" or something, making Station Square furrytown was an instant redflag and you should feel bad for not recognizing that sooner.
>>584582487>writer only saw the moviesOh boy, haha...Be sure to brace yourselves for these characterizations, sthg. The movies are have become more popular.
>>584581795>italicized "Tornado"
>>584583285This guy’s stuff is very cute but also very infantilizing, it’s tough to enjoy
>>584583809Good. I don't like the movies but you people are so fucking insufferable. You deserve it.
>>584582993>do like Sonic's redesign over the old oneYes. Japanese fans missed out on thr classic era for thr most part in general.Thats why things like Sonic and Friends used the modern designs. Classic media is for classic boomers, not the japanese.
He's right, you know. Sonic fans deserve this pain.
>>584584254which anon hurt you...;_;
Is there any Deutschfag here?
GallMetal and MeowSage
>>584585074I'm surprised that Sega hasn't done a test survey where the japanese audience can vote over which Sonic design they like more
Hi guys :)
Knuckles is MGTOW nofap
Moviedow might genuinely be the best version of the character since SA2.
>>584585589in English?
>>584583285Cute cute <3
>>584585680a virgin
>>584585569You'se gonna eat that?
>>584585569HIS HEART'S EXPOSED! GET HIS HEART
>>584583285>>584585831Fanart with an inexplicably placed OC is really funny to me
>>584586276I think being Tails' friend is part of his OC concept. Which is a great idea
>>584586745His OC concept is just Crinkly Wrinkly from OK K.O. who was already looks like a Sonic OC
>>584576630Goku wishesJura wishes That they can fight on par with shonnic
>>584583643>making Station Square furrytown was an instant redflaghonestly this Don't bother putting iconic locales in your story if you can't even portray them properly.
>>584587138>Crinkly Wrinkly you can't get a name more ABDL than that
>>584587138The only thing they have in common is that they're both purple
>>584576630Goku wishesJura wishes Jura wishes>>584577104Beerus also would jobThat they can fight on par with shonnic
>>584587638Meant to say Moro instead of jura twice what a afterthought of a villain
*hides your post*
>>584587785You just really like Jura, there is no shame in that
>>584587828
>>584585569Hi friend :D
>>584587896
>>584588160
>>584583643Being a crossover was an instant red flag
>>584588142Hi hi!
>>584586082what do people want for Surge?joining the main cast+games?becoming a forgotten idw oc?
Spank Maria!
Um, I didn't make it but there is an Amy Rose thread right now: >>>/v/749756940
>>584588313
Sonic needs more crossovers
>>584588675I want her to be a villain
>>584588675I want her and Kit to be the only IDW OCs that get real attention, the rest can fade to the background. I don’t want her in the games, they will ruin her
>>584588864>I don’t want her in the gamesIf you want her to not fade into the background, she needs to be in the games. Look at the difference between Silver and someone like Gemerl
>>584589140I’d argue Gemerl kept his dignity and Silver didn’t (not that he had much to begin with)
>>584588854I'm surprised they didn't make Blackwood a mink with how much he is associated with Silver
>>584589358Clankers don't have dignity.
>>584582487This is blatantly obvious. The writer knows the movie versions and those just don't break the mandates barely.
>>584589496I hope you also feel this way about Metal then
FUCKING CUNTS THEY WASTED SILVAZE THEY WASTED BLACKWOODAND THEY WASTED ABT'S ART ON A DAPPLE ISSUE
>>584588725
Knuckles practices semen retention.
>>584583643People keep coming up with cope explanations but EVERY time Sonic is in a world of furries you will see blatant American mischaracterization
>>584589594No exceptions. Clankers don't have souls.>>584589813All good, man.
Boys!
>>584585548From what ive observed, they prefer Modern.
>>584589878>I GET IT ON BY MYSELFno he doesn't
I never trust "Mobian" worlds. They're always packaged with an ooc Sonic.
>>584590047Japan usually likes cute animal characters so that's surprising
Not that there's any noticeable difference there but. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPnMWYKwHLAi wonder if there's still game or other jp content left to be translated after this
Sonic X is ooc too by the way
>>584590275Animal characters only worlds are ooc and shit by default
>>584590343And I thought Marine's game was scraping the bottom of the barrel. She got fuggin' NUTTIN' after this, lol
>>584590045!syoB
>>584590319The designs are cute.
>>584589140What can they really do with Gemerl as a character anyway?
>>584590319Modern characters are still ''cute''maybe pushing for cuter characters like Cream, tails, amy and a chao garden would help? yeah cream works as a background character and is ultimately redundant but if she's going to be used anywhere those sanrio collabs you would think feature her.
>>584590732The Modern designs are less cute compared to the Classic ones
>>584588725How did you slap her from that angle and position?
>>584590542(: Haey!
>>584590516At least we learned where blaze's ''protecting people's smiles'' thing came from by jp rush adventure
>>584590812Cream has nothing to her than "cute little girl" anyway since everything else about her is taken straight from Amy
...There was an Amy thread...I think that it got deleted in less than an hour.
>>584585074>Sonic and Friends used the modern designsSo "modern designs" is just "colored eyes" then?
>>584589140Gemerl only has any relevance because of IDW, not the reverse.Same with Fang, Bean, Bark, etc
>>584590960F O L D E DB O O T SN O TS O C K S
>>584591363Respect Advance 3
>>584590929I assume you face her, order her to lift her skirt while bending over, and you walk to her right side, and smack her ass while raising your hand over her back.I'd draw it if I could, but I suck.
>>584590465I'm hoping that one anon that insists that animal civilians make "Sonic and friends stand out" is not one of these people but every time I see a fan work or official product where the world is full of "mobians">Sonic is annoyingly talkative (Because that's how he is in western cartoons)>Sonic is a dumb jock (because west)>Sonic is a horny teenager (because west)>Sonic has ADHD (because west)>Sonic is part of a team with the other characters like being a hero is his job and not something he happens to do (because west)>Animal features start to dictate everyone's personality like it's beastars (Not western exclusive) Every time. The only people I see avoid all of this shit are people who go out of their way to be strictly like the Adventure era or Classic era.
>>584591428True but still cute
Takashi's lizuka brain has been in a jar for at least three years, anyshysical sighting is just an Al hologram projection
>>584589496>ClankersRobot Lives Matter
>>584590960Beautiful boys
>>584591693>Robot Lives MatterTo be recycled into toasters.
>>584591693That's just an edit that originally had a Tails plushie
>>584591698Yes yes yes!!!
The next mainline Sonic game should have Crossover DLC level packs similar to how Shadow Gens had the Tokyo scene from Movie 3 as a level and the Pac-Man World 2 remaster having Green Hill as a bonus level.Like it or not Sonic needs crossovers to stay alive. This isn't something that will only stay in Crossworlds and mobile games.
>>584591861Its been a while Tailsbroooo
>>584591861Look at them holding hands like that, what a couple of gaybos
>>584591964Hiii <3
>>584592085c:
>>584590092He stops before ejac
>>584591083Well that's why she could work for some kind of chao game spinoff or sanrio collabs to market for japan
>>584590275>>584590465>>584591473>I'm hoping that one anon that insists that animal civilians make "Sonic and friends stand out" is not one of these people but every time I see a fan work or official product where the world is full of "mobians"You people are beyond insane and very fucking prone to mindbreaking. Imagine getting obsessed for what a retard said eons ago.
>>584592065They're very sweet>>584592169^_^
>>584590319You're being reductive. Also, Modern designs are still 3 foot scrimblos.
>>584590960shoppaaaa..
Cute n Canon!
>>584592193I'm not the one insulting him
I love Tails
>>584592353Makes great stuff>>584592506Same
dria
>>584591215You're being a smartass. The S&F designs are clearly based on Modern. Especially Amy, and the presence of Jet, Silver and Shadow.
>>584590732Then what's point of Sonic and Friends changing their designs to look cuter if they already looked cute?
>>584592569Tails in a suit handing the player a bouquet
>>584592290The best bros
>>584592653>The S&F designs are clearly based on Modern.>make the characters smaller and stubbier which makes the look more like Classic anyway
>>584591436>NishiyamaslopNo
Tell me a pet peeve you have about portrayals of your favorite character.
>>584592980Slowing down
>>584592980Techno babbling and performative cuteness
>>584592979>made to be Amy's Tails>doesn't actually compliment Amy's character and just make her act worse
>>584592980>teen jock westnic>blue shoes tails >overly nerdy tails that only talks in science bullshit>psychopath Amy >retard Knuckles >eggdad >uwuver>rouge being a real slut instead of a seductress >dommy mommy rouge>dommy mommy vanilla>chaos as the actual god of the world >whisper with actual autism
>>584592980I don't like the softer portrayals of Sonic regardless of the context of why he's being shown as that way. SA2 > SA1. Archie Sonic > IDW Sonic. Sonic Colors > Sonic Unleashed. Characterization fidelity nowadays isn't really a factor in how I prefer his portrayal in this area, but instead how cocky and super he acts.
>>584593259kek
>>584592653I'm simply asking questions. Would you still say it's Modern Sonic if they had black eyes and those characters weren't there? Can't you translate those characters to Classic Sonic designs? Does Amy remain Classic Amy when she wears her new clothes but keeps the black eyes in Superstars? Do you need to make her taller? Or can she not wear her old clothes? Would she still be Modern Amy if she wore them in Sonic & Friends?The SEGA Cooro toy line uses the same designs as Sonic & Friends, but the characters have black button eyes. Is that Classic, then? It has Shadow, so I guess it must be Modern Sonic, since Classic Sonic has a no Shadow rule. Unless it's Classic Sonic cosplaying as Shadow, of course. Or is Cooro the only official appearance of Classic Shadow?Or maybe there are more than just two styles, Sonic & Friends has its own unique designs, and trying to fit everything into "Classic" or "Modern" is dumb lol>>584592721Great idea!>>584593171>Techno babblingTrue>performative cutenessWhat does that mean?
>>584593505You must hate movienic and Primenic
I'm so angry at the state of this anniversary, in which I felt compelled to make this
>>584592980Self-explanatory
>>584593772>What does that mean?It's hard to explain but sometimes I feel that people try too hard to make Tails look cute when it should be more natural
>>584593841>it's better than the 15th anniversaryThat's some crazy cope
>>584591846We know
>>584593841That anon was right about this meme format. It's starting to get somewhat old feeling.
>>584593964>the one single thing the movies decided to be religiously accurate to the games for
Tails will turn 34!
>>584593997Tails looks cute by default yeah
>>584593841Is 35 really that worthy of being considered a notable anniversary? Does every random multiple of 5 deserve some insane special treatment?
>>584580473>Rouge was literally made for Knuckles.This is a myth. Her beta name was shadow. People mistakenly thought it was nails, but this turned out to be false. She was only ever designed to be knuckles' rival.
>>584592918Is that all classic is to you?
>>584591864That doesn't like a bad idea. I personally prefer it to have Shadow Gens-style DLC. I liked the urban setting of that DLC
It's important to know that we don't really know when the 8-bit version of Sonic 2 was actually released and everything sort of indicates it was released alongside the 16-bit version in November 1992 so I'll wait a bit before celebrating best boy's birthday Anyways here's Aogirinaru kino
>>584594094At least they also gave him actual weapons and cool things to use. The games can’t even do that
Fuck you Sonic
>>584594483So beautiful!!!!!!!And Sonic 2 is amazing!
>>58459298Metal Sonic being treated as simple boss fodder and jobber instead of an actual threat who is on par with Sonic in power and speed even able to outspeed Sonic temporarely. Also having external abilities that Sonic doesn't have like flight, energy beams, forcefields and generating electricityOVA did a great job at portraying Metal Sonic as a serious deadly threat but using him being a robot as a weakness
>>584594672The 8-bit version?
>>584594094Wait a minute >>584581795They fucking used the movieverse Miles Electric and edited it in post >>584582487
>>584592980>Phillip J. Frynic>Uwuver>Retard Knuckles/Drax Knuckles>Super Angry Knuckles>Jock Knuckles>9999iq Tails>Blaze talking like a customer service rep>Rouge being overly flirty and coquettish>Rouge not having a temper>Girlboss Amy
>>584594437 (me)*That doesn't sound like a bad idea
>>584594737No, I didn't think that through. I knew it was about the 8 bit version at first, but then I started looking at the pic zoomed in and thought about how cute it was without seeing the top half anymore, then saw they were saying "Sonic 2!" and by that point I had forgotten the anniversary discussion and the top half of the pic. I'll play the 8 bit version someday
Tails the cute!
>>584594483We do have "Europe" and "Latin America" >>584594221 but they're vague and not country-specific like a lot of dates you see online tend to be (pretty much mainly JP, US, UK, and occasionally AU)No one's done a deepdive to find out which countries exactly? We found out Sonic CD's Europe date in Jam was referring to Germany.
>>584595052Yeah!
>>584595195Basically all magazine sources I could find about the game came from November issues, where it would be lumped alongside the 16-bit versions>>584595031Quite an elaborate response lol but ok
>>584594583if sonic wont claim her, metal might as well
>>584595329we should return to this muzzle style
>>584594253I don't think it's crazy for people to simply expect a game or a remaster to celebrate the series anniversary. If Mario can release a remaster of 3D World for his 35th anniversary, then I'm sure Sonic can do the same thing than shitting out expensive ass figures that your average Sonic fan won't even buy.
>>584595405I prefer this one, it's more readable. Though both work and are good
>>584594415For me Classic is nothing but different character designs. Classic doesn't have ownership over any concepts and traits when it's all just a part of what Sonic is as a whole, for me at least
>>584595329For better or sometimes worse, that response is just how my brain works>>584595405I prefer it short even if that isn't how it originally was. They also changed the hair early on as well
>>584594809Holy shit. This is actually a big deal. Everyone pointed out the godzila comic using the movie characterizations but right there, the movie Miles Electric. What the fuck??????
>>584594829>Blaze talking like a customer service repdescribe
>>584595758c;
>>584594415What else would it be?
>>584586082>>584588675I honestly don't think they know what to do with these two characters. It either continues to shine light on how misconstrued comic Sonic is on purpose or just get standarized and de-clawed, further making their entire shtick pointless.
>>584594809can we admit now that the movies are literally invading our shit they are literally just infecting and replacing things from canon at this point we're coming up on SEVEN YEARS of the movie boost being in the games
*sniffing werehog's scent*
>>584595949
>>584592980>Surge being a tsundere>Surge being overly flirty>Whisper being overly anti social or awkward >Any IDW OC being too womanly compared to IDW Yes, I'm serious.
>>584596327This is how Ian Flynn makes serious characters talk. I notice that he has like five different voices for different types of characters.
>>584596327Idk maybe "customer service" isn't the best way to describe it, but the dialogue does sound awkward. Probably because Evan or whoever set out to write her speaking "proper" but it just comes across as unnatural and forced.
>>584595807So is this Classic or are the eyes being colored enough to make it Modern?Either way I like it, though. I like the smaller proportions and I also like the colored eyes. Totoya did it too in some of his art>>584596098=)
>>584596586The dialogue style there looks very Ian Flynn style
The writers also like making Shadow talk in regal speak in Archie. It sounds dumb.
Boyboyboy!
>>584596662If you look closely at Harmony artwork you'll see that the lower part of the pupils are lighter, like a grey hue. I guess that's what Aogirinaru was trying to do
>>584595195To be honest it's probable South America manufactured Sonic 2 and Chaos MS a bit earlier than it was intended due to having different regulations than North America and so Sega may sometimes list them with an earlier date to save face. Most sources (in the anglosphere) indicate they released closer or around the GG versions, unlike Sonic 1 where we know MS predated GG.
>>584581795>>584582487But I thought IDW said Sega/Sonic Team overseas everything in their comics?
>>584596919They're green and blue there thoughLike here
>>584596758I guess I didn't recognize his writing at first since Blaze didn't sound kickbutt enough.
>>584597087It's a crossver with a new writer, anon.
>>584597087>Sonic Team overseas everything in the comics>overseasIf only
I just realized I can discern who is writing a story, Penders, Ian, or Evan quickly because I've read a ton of Sonic comics. Especially Penders and Ian have unique writing styles. Ian makes characters quip and use wit a bunch, and is sometimes wordy, and is sometimes awkward. Ken Penders has character stand around and talk a lot, and have a robotic old school way of talking, but it's also easy to guess from the art style. Evan's stories maybe have more emotional variety, more restrained than Ian and Penders, and the dialogue is like softer, but it's changed recently. I like the way she writes dialogue now a bit more, but it's less noticeable as anything in any direction. IDK why.Karl Bollers has a distinct more natural style of storytelling that is also less over the top. His dialogue is less interesting but probably more natural than Ian's.Add any observations if you can notice
>>584597113Oh yeah that makes more senseI never understood the complaints against eye color lolLike I guess it's because in classic cartoons, eyes were usually drawn as pitch black, but we don't have to deal with those limitations
The Sonic movies have replaced SatAM and Archie.
Remember to say thank you to the movies for saving your games and comics
Cum in my womb Drago
>>584597626Did you see the British one?
https://youtu.be/dK45MaPlJ2A?is=A0Z2Ta1-4AW7gYww
>>584592980Lobotomized Amy not allowed to be pushy or assertive or genuine and having to be performatively moral and nice.Give me back Heroes Amy who called Eggman a mustached monkey and called the Chaotix losers.
>>584597317I would like to see the Classic characters with eye colors officially but they need to keep that brand "PURE" and "UNTOUCHED BY ANYTHING AFTER 1997" or else it's not "CLASSIC" anymore
>>584597773I think so, was it this one? if not I must've forgot to save it or misplaced it
>>584597317Looking at the proposed Sonic designs for SA1, the one that won changed the design the least. When they talk about modernizing the design to communicate that Sonic is cool, I guess the eyes are the main thing they're talking about, because other changes were implemented later for 3D/gameplay reasons (taller, back quills, detailed shoe soles) and weren't part of Uekawa's original winning concept for SA1Anyway, it's interesting that Totoya incorporates the eye color but sticks to his original design for the muzzle and hair>>584597916Same
If it's so easy then why don't you all start talking like Ian writes huh
>>584597429>thank you to the moviesYou mean to Sonic Team and normalfags for shitting on the movie, and to Tyson Hesse for fixing it last minute.
>>584597251That shouldn't change a damn thing.
>>584597429I wonder how people felt when Iizuka basically admitted that Mania left little to no impact on the franchise, while the movies are the reason this franchise is still around.
>>584593772>Would you still say it's Modern Sonic if they had black eyes and those characters weren't there? Can't you translate those characters to Classic Sonic designs? Does Amy remain Classic Amy when she wears her new clothes but keeps the black eyes in Superstars? Do you need to make her taller? Or can she not wear her old clothes? Would she still be Modern Amy if she wore them in Sonic & Friends?Yes
These details that Ian Flynn put in Archie Sonic are greatLike the tentacles trying to attack Sonic but being broken, and Sonic notices them closing in on him, but they are already broken, and then the characters react while talking all the while.
>>584598072That's Chao Drago Here you go:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/584173062/#q584177261
I love it when Ian makes characters sound folksy for no fucking reason yeah man I'm sure sonic would call knuckles the salt of the earth wow that's absolutely something mr. gotta go fast chili dogs would say
>>584598461The only way this answer can make sense is if you also consider Sonic Superstars to be "modern" like everything else past a certain date
>>584598664Ian doesn't draw, anon.
>>584598893I thought it was in the script or something
>>584598783He calls him Knucklehead.
>>584598726arigathank you, he's so perfect
Girliest girl whoever girled
Ohshima also changed the way he draws the soles of Sonic's shoes in recent years for whatever reason
>>584594734>OVA portals Metal great!>why?>he beats Sonic up and kicks his shit in>what else>......>does he use those lasers?>No bu->Does he use his external abilities at all?>N-No, bu->Does he even shock his circuits or use V.Maximum Overdrive even one time?>....no Metaloser...
>>584599000Nice digits
>>584599002I didn't know British people did that
>>584598664I like when Eggman is reasonable.
>>584599002>Bri'ish Sonic>Absolute chav>Bri'ish Drago>Absolute wanker
>>584595687Right and Sobic and Friends are a chibified version of the Modern designs. Classic is not.
I hate Ian because he mischaracterizes everyone and tries to forcibly canonize their archie personalities
>>584598869I consider Sonic Superstars to take place after Sonic Frontiers and the Classic designs are just an retro artstyle
>>584599173I meant he calls him knucklehead and other names on games, so that isn't OOC.
>>584599186NTA backwards V-sign is British version of flipping the bird, tracing back to hundred years war, as longbowmen's insult against the French.
>>584596110Designs based on how he looked in the Classic material.
>>584599273Since knuxouge makes people sperg out I guess sonknux is my new favorite ship. They're basically the same thing
>>584597859Yeah...
>british flip offit's done like THIS
>>584599430I wish this is how it was officially, art style being tied to lore makes no sense
>>584597290Ian writes his lines like he is talking to the reader through the characters.
>>584599513So smaller and stubbier then.
>>584592980EgghitlerTardknucklesVegetadow
>>584599762That's a burger version.
I love Tails!
:)
I like egghitler
Sonic Adventure 2 feels like one of those anime movies where the characters break away from their usual routine because the director wanted to write about the destruction of humanity or something
>>584582250Why did Knuckles forget Trip?
>>584598869NuClassic is not a chibi version of Modern. Its a Modern version of Classic.
>>584600670>vector on the left>sonic in the top rowThis implies he's arranging them top to bottom, left to right in terms of importance btw
>>584600835What is Modern?
>>584600912spank maria
>>584600202Why is he wearing a skirt?
>>584599842Anyone with an IQ over room temperature would realize this but Sega are way too autistic in the way they manage the Sonic series. I don't understand how Sega themselves don't get a massive headache from all this Classic/Modern branding nonsenseI tried for years to get my head around it and accept this branding but I just completely refuse too and I only keep asking myself>"Why? What's the point? This makes no sense"I don't mind them using the Classic design, that's fine. It's just hate all these restrictions and needing them to only exist in the past. I would too see Classic version of Modern characters and still being able to use all the lore and history up this point instead just being locked to everything past 1997The only people who benefits from this are the Classicfags who hate everything that Sonic has been since Sonic Adventure
>>584601073a shitty branding name, same with ClassicModern makes no sense when it's referring to games and a Sonic design that are decades old now
>>584601073The Sonic that was introduced in 1998 with Sonic Adventure .
Game purists already got their wish. Archie is banned. Archie characterizations are banned. IDW is trapped with a shitty episodic format. You're still complaining...
>>584601872
>>584601872IDW still has the shitty pet OCs taking up screentime and a homogenized furry world
>>584600959If I believed in One Timeline, I'd feel bad for Trip being abandoned and forgotten by all of her new friends.
>>584599674FreeMyNiggaRosie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OOCPbxEe1E
>>584602250Assuming that there's a literal classic timeline/dimension that diverges from the modern timeline, trip wasn't forgotten. It's just that modern knux never met her. Trip met santiago's knuckles.
>>584601829Sonic Team's current "three generations" are distinct from the Classic/Modern split.
>>584600028The entire shape language is different
indoctrinating the public
>>584600670>>584602250>>584602502As if I need anymore proof as to why this dumbass branding fucking sucks
>>584602720>aggressively searches for something ooc
>>584602659I hope people in the future look back on the trend of darkening random characters as retarded
>>584592980Emerl is fucking dead.
>>584602782the public shall know mobius
>>584602785I'm going to amend my statement by acknowledging that at this rate those people will probably all be dark too
>>584601813Modern makes sense because it's the design still currently in use.Remember when Modern Sonic was gonna be called "Legacy Sonic"?
The worst thing that happened to Sonic was AoStH splitting from SatAM.
>>584593364>>psychopath AmyBestie...
>>584601596Same, thinking about all this mess just makes me confused and upset. I wish it wasn't like this...
The worst thing that happened to Sonic was SatAM
>>584600568The usually routine is Eggman trying to conquer the world while destroying nature in the process and Sonic stops him which is what happen
>>584603125"The best thing to happen to sonic was underground" -Tamers
>>584603242finally. hellokitty for boys. idw is on brand again
>>584601813>>584603025>Modern makes sense because it's the design still currently in use.It isn't though. Sonic has been redesigned several times since 1998. He also didn't have a consistent design from 1991 to 1997 either. This whole "there are only two Sonic designs" thing is stupid
>>584603028Worst thing to happen to Sonic was AoSTH and SatAM because it gave the fans in the west a canon and characters that SOJ never even approved of and a comic series that wasted money on them for nearly 30 years
>>584603025>upbeat adventure style>sonic boomwhat about that shitty wii u game or cartoon was upbeat?>moviesLOL
>>584599842Yes it does
>>584603025I rather them use the term Legacy Sonic since it embodies everything that Sonic has been to this point
>>584602250>>584602743Doesn't Amy imply/say she's still friends with Trip in CrossWorlds and TailsTube?
>>584603356>NOOO WE NEED SONIC TO BE A HORNY EGOTISTICAL RETARD AGAIN Satam is a stain on the series
>>584601073The post 1998 designs and artstyle
>>584603028>>584603356>>584603541Schizo much?
>>584602743Nah, if Trip gets Modernize, original Trip dies like the original Chaotix. I don't want that eitherAnd if she was made in the 2000s she would just be another Shadow ripoff like Jet or Blaze or Silver.
>>584603345Sega disagrees with you since they treat Sonic from 1998 to current day as Modern
>>584603356It would be so bad if they would stop being autistic about branding and just embrace fans of those shows. Those are entire IPs waiting to be milked and they're just lying dormant
>>584603615>post 1998 designsSo this is Modern then since it's post 1998
>>584601596No, Fangtard. We dont need Fang or Mighty on modern
>>584603541>horny egotistical retardFleetway sonic says hi
>>584603541sonamay is a crackship
>>584603729They already embrace the "Fans" (they aren't Sonic fans) of those shows too much. Just kill it already.
>>584603720>they'd NEVER make a character like Cream in the 2000s!Okay>>584603721I am aware that SEGA's current branding since 2011 is "two Sonics, Modern and Classic". It is a lie even today and doesn't make sense. Sonic had multiple different looks over the years, even before 1998
>>584604027>They already embrace the "Fans" (they aren't Sonic fans) of those showsSee this is what I'm talking about
Satamfags and archiefags need to be cleansed. It would be nice if all they wanted was their shitty OCs, but instead they want to replace the game characters with the dead westshit versions.
>>584603240Doesn't Tamers hate Underground now?
>>584593841Sonic potential seriesSonic potential anniversarywhoring the hedgehog out constantly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrle0x_DHBM
>>584601872>Game purists already got their wish. Archie is banned. Archie characterizations are banned.YIPPIE!!!
I gotta say i am confused. The new Sonic movie is out in less than a year, right? But no new game announcement to coincide with it? I thought there'd be at least something Amy or Metal Sonic related coming soon but no word? It's like the franchise has been in silence since CrossWorlds, what happened?
>>584604203No, he just moved on to horses and that other shit. He said he just ignores his underground fans since they have nowhere else to go
>>584604347If you're expecting sega to make sensible business decisions I have some bad news for you
>>584603858>spatsYeah, it's modern.
>>584604203I have been watching Tamers since the first half of this year and recently at least one half has proven to still love Sonic Underground for reasons i can't say or else i would get a three day ban. Look for the Tamers general and i will explain there. Post this gif so i know it's you.
Sonamyfags are the meanest, cruelest, most rabid people in the Sonic fandom now
>>584604591>now
>Jake
>>584604167Just because she's Amy's friend doesn't make Trip like Cream, Trip is introduced as a reluctant villain. She is a comedic subversion of S3&K Knuckles which probably wouldn't have been considered in the early 00s era of Sonic which had long evolved past comedic rival characters like Fang to more serious ones like Shadow.
Were there leaks of Colors Ultimate?
>>584604515Gotta be honest, there was a time when i wanted to work with SEGA, but since the year of Shadow they disappointed me so hard i lost interest. I'm simply waiting for the inevitable video essay to explain what went wrong so i can at least understand. >>584604681Yo what's up?
The fact that we still have tamersfags here gives me hope
>>584601872>Game purists already got their wish.But Ian isn't forever fired from the franchise yet.
>>584603720How can original Trip die when they already have made several artworks and merchandise of her?If Trip dies it's because Sega are bored and no longer cares about her, I don't know if they will ever use her againAlso we had Sonic Channel art of Classic Espio and Classic Vector had a background cameo in one of the IDW Classic comics. I don't know why Sega are so extremely stingy with introducing them already
>>584603112>Surgefag ia defending AmyYay!!!
>>584603501TailsTube, yes. They were going to invite her to a BBQ. Not sure about CrossWorlds.
>>584604961I thought he got fired after saying weird stuff on his podcast.
>>584604591Sonic loves amy
>>584604709>Just because she's Amy's friendI didn't even consider that aspect. I just mentioned Cream because you definitely can't call her a Shadow clone by any stretch of the imagination, and you were already heavily stretching it with Blaze anyway>wouldn't have been considered in the early 00sEarly 2000s was also the era of Sonic Heroes and a gag manga btw
>>584604997Hot take. Amy shouldn't be getting along with Lanolin and Surge the way she does in IDW.
>>584603858This is NuClassic as I explained.Its a Modern design based on the Classic artstyle.
>>584605003How canon is TailsTune at this point? Honestly feels like a simple non canon series made to simply help people learn about Sonic stories but not actually canon due to the contradictions and plot holes that would be created if everything was canon.
>>584605082But Sonamy fans are not very loving and passionate towards other shippers. It's the truth.
>>584604264Only Silvazehaters aka Sonazefags like this ship.
>>584605221It's "canon until contradicted".
>>584597184the unused transformation lines in shadow gens sound more hotter than these because it sounds like he's being forcibly raped and he's begging whoever is fucking him to stop
>>584605265Kek
>>584605228Maybe because you guys keep attacking them. Look at the bestiespammer duo.
>>584605221Canon enough that it gets redubbed into Japanese and uploaded on the Japanese Sonic accounts.
Whenever Sonamyfags encounter another shipper they pretend that they're purists for the games
>Sonic is a quippy, rude jock with a bloated ego that everyone thinks is corny and mostly tolerate him because he's powerful, but also the characters with actual story and deph/drama are the sidekicks while Sonic just bumbles around until everyone needs a win button.Motherfuckers actually like this kind of format?
>>584604370>HorsesTragic.>>584604969The only reason Classic Espio and Classic Vector got new art was because Generations revived Classic and made it its own brand, prior to that it was mostly just the Modern Chaotix, who are different characters (per Iizuka).
>>584605315Post
>>584605352I'm... not kidding, it's how it's been described to me. It's canon until a game contradicts it.Ideally, it shouldn't happen, but...
>>584605373I'm not defending bestieposter but "we only attack you because you attack us" is the same argument shadougefags use
>>584605479Archiefags and satamfags think this is great
Sonamyfags can tolerate other shippers in theory, provided they don't involve Sonic or Amy. In practice they go nuclear for characters ever even existing.
>>584605003She mentions her in the Superstars track in both En and Jp yeah>>584605217I was asking you what exactly defines the design or art style, but I'm tired of this at this point
>>584605531>Canon until contradictedBasically it's "canon" for marketing purposes and driving engagement
>>584605373the bestie posting was a retaliation rather than aggression
>>584603858No it's not. Your pic was clearly based on this concept art which was probably done in 1997.
>>584600670>>584600959If Knuckles wants those fat bat tiddies so much then why doesn’t he talk to her or try to hang out?
>>584605245I just like Silver interactions, Sonazefags(Blazefags) hate it because it can overshadow them completely
>>584605654>She mentions her in the Superstars track in both En and Jp yeahHonestly, those lines are so random and rare that even as an Amy players I still haven't heard that one.
I wanna be a cute rat.
>muh fairnessSonamy is in the games. Sonally requires you to reject Sonic's canon personality.
>>584605814autism
>>584605765Her clothes don't look like that in that concept art.
I find it funny how much Paramount shilling there is in Crossworld but they have het to add Movie Sonic. Though I guess Sonic, Amy and Metal are basically assured to release around the movie. Bet they’ll be the only Sonic content added though.
>>584605765NTA, that's just a Superstars skin for Amy that uses her modern dress and it's marketed as such.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2504600/SONIC_SUPERSTARS__Modern_Amy_Costume/Her prototype modern dress is different. Also your resolution saddens me.
>>584605935canon...
>>584605935SonAmy requires you reject their dynamic and Sonic’s personality too though.
>>584605935Sonamy also requires you to reject Sonic’s canon personality. All Sonic ships do
>>584605935Show Sally is openly and freely affectionate and undemanding. This is perfectly cpatible with canon sonic. The bitchy controlling bit was all archie
>>584605093Eh, Sonic Heroes was an outlier compared the tone of the rest of that era. SA1 and 2 were definitely more important to that period of the series, even if Heroes made more money.>CreamYou are right, she's more of a Tikal/Maria clone.
>>584605739No it wasn't
>>584606203>Show Sally is openly and freely affectionate and undemanding. This is perfectly cpatible with canon sonic.See, this is how Sonallyfags try to dishonestly try and claim Sonic is the kind of guy who wants to settle down or have a girlfriend. Even worse, they'll try and say he's into loose sex or making out. Completely OOC. You don't care about Sonic and you never did.
>>584605586I think the lesson to be learned is to not attack people for what they like but just when they're being obnoxious faggots like the tailsspammers do every day.
Too many arguments and supposed issues with the series literally only make sense when you realise they come from people trying to judge Sonic to comicbook cape shit when this is a videogame series.
>>584606226I have been here for a while I'm telling you it was
>>584605531>>584605737So basically it being canon is a lie to try to gain interest?
>>584606370Truth nuke. I've started bullying and baiting tailsfags especially after they derailed the boc storytimes
>>584606356Sonic likes girls.
>>584606203Nobody is compatible with canon Sonic. I am getting sick of ALL OF YOU.
>>584606408Nobody cares sonurgewestie
>>584606506Amy is, Randomfox
>>584606469That's not nice.
>>584606506He has Peter Pan syndrome hes not asexual. You are juat a tumor weirdo.
>>584606370You were SO close to having a rational thought, but the foxboy brainrot has clearly taken hold
>he's not asexual, that means he wants a girlfriend You are a fucking retard.
>>584605489found ithttps://x.com/krack932/status/1850009582589894789?s=20
>>584605814probably thinks she’s shadow’s bitch
>>584606634Maybe stop derailing threads and attracting weird schizos like foxcel and arenafag and viotroon
>>584606454It's official fluff, meaning you're free to exploit it but shouldn't be surprised if it gets discarded
>>584606201Except Sonurge, right Duo?
>>584605765So is this Classic Sonic then?
>>584605479I like it kind of
>>584606675That means he doesn't mind reciprocating when a cute girl is being nice to him. Doesn't mean he'll marry her.
>>584606634Cute that you think the problem is me and not you.
>>584606728>No...no...aaaghggghhh
>>584605161Eh, agreed.
You all need to learn how to hide the posts.
>>584606846He doesn't reciprocate. Satam and Archie are OOC. You are doing the same disgusting cope fans of all the adaptations love doing.
>>584607019I only hide when something genuinely makes me upset and I can't look at it
>>584607057Satam Sonic and Sally are less distant from the source material than Archie Sonic is.
>>584607004Is this fake?
>>584606762We don’t derail threads, we post Tails and enjoy the company of other Tailsfriends. You having an issue with that is not our problem, and neither is attracting your boogeymen. Stop attacking people for what they like (your words)
>>584606223>Sonic Heroes was an outlier compared the tone of the rest of that era.Not really. The Advance games, Riders, Battle and X in general were all comparable, if not lighter.
>>584607019the filters do it for me
>>584607139Do I sound like I care about your shitty distinctions? I can't stand you people. You're the same scum that pretend Sonic X is "perfectly in-character" just because it isn't as ridiculous as the lows of Fleetway or Archie. Get the fuck out of my face.
Jake still hasn't replied to my post in the tamers thread
>>584607156>Stop attacking people for what they like (your words)No, I said that. You're talking to a different anon that's had enough of your shit. You idiots post the same images every day with barely any or completely repetitive text. Get a new gimmick, get some new pics, and actually talk about something interesting, and I promise people won't be tired of you.
>>584607084I'm currently hiding 90% of this thread.
still thinkabout Cinder/protoblaze
>>584607139OOC is OOC. Having only 2% shit in a sandwich isn't an improvement.
>>584607218Nice b8
>>584607158This, Shadow's popularity mindbreaks people>The Advance games, Riders, Battle and X in general were all comparableSA1 is also closer to those than SA2 is. But SA1 shouldn't even be in the conversation because that is a 90s game and this was about the early 2000s. That poster brought up SA1 because he conflates its tone with SA2's just like how he conflates their release years
>>584607175Yeah, I do too, except certain filenames flat out refuse to work.
SA2 and Shadow were noticeably darker thsn the rest. That's okay, it made them stand out.
>>584606770Got it. >>584607254Oh, i didn't think you were awake. Sorry i'll be right there.
>>584606408You've been updating this over the course of 7 years lmao
All of your ships involving the blue guy are OOC. Stop trying to nostalgia critic your way into a secondary explanation that allows them to work.
>>584606454More like it's official, until one of the writers fuck up in the games. Then the game supercedes it.
>>584607304>Stop attacking people for what they like, unless they do it in a way that I don’t like I hope you realize how insane you sound
>>584607517Sonamy won
>>584607404Why is January 1st 2000 an arbitrary cutoff for you?
>>584606370What you people should attack often more than anything is Randomfox and Krack spamming everyday with xitter screenshots and spamming one word robotic sentences and self-replying to astrosurf hard.
>>584607004>Thread simulator 7 was on Dec 24, 2024>Thread simulator 7½ made of old unused scraps was on Apr 18, 2025Why did you leave us?
>>584607565Foxcel (main tailsfag) does that all the time for years. He harassed everyone because he's a tailspedo.
Sonallyfags only pretend to care about characterization because it has been beaten into them by gamechads. The truth is they don't care. The entire concept of Sonally involves Sonic compromising and learning to slow down, even in SatAM. They claim it doesn't based on an out of context quote from Ben Hurst, completely ignoring that season 2, entirely written by that man, shits all over that quote repeatedly. Satam isn't as OOC as Archie but in regards to romance there is no leeway here. It's OOC. Don't care about Sonamyfags.
>>584607614Source that they do this or are you a schizophrenic trying to deflect criticism from tailsfags
>>584606821Yes
>>584607701>Don't care about Sonamyfags.the bestie's mask drops
>>584607629>Thread simulator 7 was on Dec 24, 2024
Whenever you criticize tailsfags they try to deflect to a specific namefag. Muh randomfox muh krack muh woefag. You are worst than all of them tailsfags. I would take 100 autistic namefags over tails.
>>584607469>SA2Yeah, and even then, it's only true for the Dark Story (and the Last Story), which is literally meant to contrast it>ShadowMakes sense since it was intended to be a different series based on the Dark story>That's okay, it made them stand out.I agree
>>584607649Cool story, doesn’t involve me. You are chasing ghosts
Sonally is more OOC than Sonadow. If you disagree with this you can't be trusted to discuss Sonic as a character. You don't respect him and are only vaguely interested in his character design.
>>584607604You said the following:>the early 00s era of SonicThere is nothing arbitrary about January 1st 2000 being the cutoff date for the end of the 90s and the start of the 2000sEven if you want to say "Adventure era", I would still point out that the two Adventure games have different tones
>>584607565It would sound insane if it weren't just me. The fact that you're arguing with two different anons about the same thing right now should tell you something, but the self-reflection is non-existence and the victim complex is running on all cylinders instead.
>>584607734"Soa shill" "Chris Hernandez" "The Lore Team"
>>584607870>Muh randomfox muh krack muh woefagIt's so funny when people get mindbroken by a namefag who is right. Imagine seething just because YOU don't understand the Sonic characters. Pathetic fucking retards fill this thread and pick fights with people who actually played the games. Then they'll have melties crying that a namefag is ruining the threads for them. Sorry that some people actually like Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>584607870You have gun with 2 bullets and 3 tailsfags tied up in a room.Which specific ones gets it?
>>584607894It's the other way. Sonadow is more OOC than Sonally because Sonic and Shadow are not flaming faggots
>>584608001So everyone who mentions those things is one person. Lmfao retarded
>>584607614Krack doesn't (usually) post her own tweets. That's someone else trying to stir up the people here who hate her. I can't speak for Randomfox.
>>584608052Foxcel, foxcel again to make sure he is dead
Tails posters are the best
So how much of /sthg/ is ship wars and complaining about Tails?
>>584596173>I honestly don't think they know what to do with these two characters.At this point Surge should become a regular just for the shipping. That’s all she’s good for anyway.Kit can be taken out back and shot
>>584608178about 50-50 each
>>584608060You're framing it like this because you don't understand how conceptually retarded Sonally is.
>>58460817890%±5
>>584608102>>584607894>>584607870>>584607894>>584607701Interesting these types of """posts""" came in swarm as soon >>584607614 posted.
>>584608102Welcome to /sthg/. I am you and you are me (according to a mentally unstable and paranoid anon).
>Muh RandomfoxCan you name a single time he was wrong about Sonic? You're just mad that your headcanon is OOC.
>>584608301>two yousI win
>>584608248I don't like Sonally
Species swap
>>584608375When he said sonadow is ic
>>584607991All it tells me is that’s there’s at least 2 salty retards here that can’t handle seeing the fox boy
>>584608375I don't follow the thread celebrities. Is he the one that said Amy can't swim?
>>584607304>>584607991Lol cope
>>584608465Can you explain how Sonadow is OOC without deferring to something that isn't from the games?
>>584606821Honestly, good question. On one hand, development on SA1 officially started in the middle of 1997 on the Saturn but was moved over to the Dreamcast when the team was informed it was coming out the following year. On the other hand, the redesigns were said to have happened very late into the development of the game and SA1 was released in late 1998. The Classic Sonic design stayed on the Saturn with Jam and R and the redesign competition was probably done soon after the decision to move development of SA1 to the Dreamcast, but I don't know if any of that has been confirmed.Has any of the artist involved in the redesign competition confirmed what year it happened in?
>>584608375Forces Tails
>>584608540YesRandomFRAUD
this is gonna cause so much seething when it hits
>>584608645At this point, considering Forces Tails OOC should be seen as fandom brained retardation on the level of calling the characters "mobians"
>>584608560I miss the days when this was Sonic fan art. Nowadays it's just mastectomy scar "art" because the artist is pooner with a self-mutilation fetish
>>584607158Doesn't Advan 3 or Battle have Eggman destroy a solar system?
>>584602720Basic TV still has a lot presence in public places. get ready to see Sally at doctors office and auto centers.
Awesome to the max
>>584608783It’s a fact Randomfaggot, your pathetic game shilling doesn’t change that
>>584608732Are the woke morons going to call it hetslop? I can already sense the Sonadow fujos and Sonally fan boys are going to throw a hissy fit too
>>584608732>lefthe just saved amy? wow so canon...>rightdoesn't look like what you think it is but you can have it ig. sonamy is still a shitty crackship though
>pathetic game shillingI forgot that some of you are proud of not liking Sonic.
>>584608895Maybe when you were 7
>>584609087
>>584605479>>Sonic is a quippy, rude jock with a bloated ego that everyone thinks is corny and mostly tolerate him because he's powerful, SOA>but also the characters with actual story and deph/drama are the sidekicks while Sonic just bumbles around until everyone needs a win button.SOJ
>>584609035>doesn't look like what you think it is but you can have it ig.Oh, we're still coping? You can clearly see in the footage that they're holding hands. It's not just Amy's arm raised in the frame. Both of their hands stay there while running.
>>584609073I like Sonic when it’s good. Forces doesn’t qualify, and only shilling retards like yourself think otherwise
I like the 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo more than regular Scooby Doo. That is the same way I feel about Sonic. I'm tired of normal Sonic.
>>584608368Why self reply?
>>58460746906 had both a Disney princess and Sonic both die. Secret Rings is about Sonic trying to save an abuse victim, Sonic was also dying in that game too.The story of SA1 is built around the extinction of the echidna race.
>>584609254the copious one is you nigga
>>584609375>copiousThat's not the right word, anon.
>>584609430owari da...
You guys are getting heated just because fans of the games don't like it when the adaptations make up new characterizations
>>584608783this
>>584606545>>584607513Did you people forget already we were nearly subjugated to gore spam just few days ago or what.
>>584608565According to Sonic Retro and SEGA Retro, it must have happened in 1997, because it was featured in issue 154 of HarmonyAlso, there are two stated reasons why they updated the designs around that time. The first reason was that they wanted to better communicate Sonic's coolness. The second was to adapt the designs to the 3D view. They did things like making Sonic taller so he's easier to pose with 3D models, changed his back quills because the original 2D design didn't consider how he looked from behind, and made the shoe soles more detailed so they don't feel out of place in a more detailed 3D world.Those two reasons are separate and the 3D view/gameplay reasons are clearly not considered in Uekawa's 1997 green eyes artThat's what I've been asking all thread. What part(s) of this make it "Modern Sonic"? Most changes were done out of necessity for the 3D environments, so is it the eyes that distinguishes them? Apparently no one thinks that, at least not anymore, because now people, such as Tails' creator, draw the "Classic universe/timeline" characters with colored eyesIf Sonic 4 didn't start development as a cheap phone game, ideally I think that particular Sonic design would be fitting. I think it would fit Superstars as well
>>584608825So?
>>584608825CD has Eggman enslave a planet and mechanize and ruin it.
Holy shit. I was NOT ready for this when I started up the game.https://youtu.be/SHVjfEoDYX8?t=48
https://x.com/BennettWaisbren/status/2110808404277301584?s=20
Yay!
When I see deliberate flaming war here going with you all nutjobs and besties, I just log off and wait since I know all the cozy gay fellows aren't on right now.>>584609848Cute Joe Sushi. :3
>>584609631 (Me)>draw the "Classic universe/timeline" characters with colored eyesI shouldn't say this about Totoya because I don't think he follows the brand split based on the things he says. At first I was thinking of aogirinaru, who definitely follows it, as well as another artist a few days ago, and only later I edited my post to mention Totoya.
>>584609923
>character trait is not in the gamesSo it's OOC. Nothing to debate about.
>>584609923Yeah!
>>584610185yet sonamyfags continue to cope
I'm a jap purist and I agree Sonamyfags are the worst
*Triggers you*
>>584610272Falseflagging Sallyfaggot
Who is a better writer, Masasbi Kishimoto or Morio Kishimoto
>>584610324Falseflagging Sallyfaggot
>>584610185What if it's a trait that is not in the games but that you can conclude through logical inference based on traits that are in the games? You can't argue against correct logic
*copes harder*
Uh oh bestiemelty
>>584610410Not a tomboy but between a girly girl and a tomboy
Just a few more months until we win and westshitters lose
amyfags will continue to seethe at sally for "daring" to show interest in sonic
>>584610410>localizationthey're not sending their best
>>584610582>implying Sonic appeared in Archie or ShitAM
>>584610692The 2000s translators had it out for Amy pretty consistently in every game, especially the handheld ones.
>>584610692>localizationYes. the recognized canon version.
>>584610235Yes!
Never trust what a westfaggot has to say about Sonic. Especially if it's about Amy and Sonic's dynamic.
Tailsfags want to do horrible things to him
>>584608732Couldn't possibly cause more seethe than Amy wearing spats.>>584609268>Original cast gets culled and replaced with new characters.>The "cousin" of the main character is introduced; purists hate him but he also boosts the popularity of the franchise>Started with designs similar to the classic look before suddenly changing them in later releases>Popular girl character returns after a multi-year hiatus with and radical redesign, other classic characters are relegated to cameos and also get modernized.>series shifts focus away from more grounded lighter stakes stuff to higher stakes supernatural stories>Main character get a bunch of different one-off transformations The Red Shirt Shaggy era was basically 00s/Dark Age of Scooby Doo.
>>584610795kys
>>584608732What the fuck is going on with the lighting in the first pic, why is sonic lit up with highlights while amy isnt
>>584610886Ok.
>>584610692Same idea you retard. Cream literally says here brutally "she goes too far".
>>584610907I was having the same autistic thought. It's weird that this show even exists in the 80s when this wasn't normal. Took an episodic comedy series and turned it into a series with lore and continuity. That IS the 2000s Sonic of Scooby Doo
>>584610792Bot post.
>>584610996You probably get angry when you hear that Sonic doesn't want to settle down. You probably get angry when you hear that Sonic has a different personality in the games and Satam. You probably SEETHE seeing Sonic and Amy have good intteractions.
>>584611218You are definitely projecting
Sonic canonically loves Amy. Sonic Channel staff always support Sonamy. Sonic and Amy are bound by the red thread of fate.
>>584610907Why can't sthg be more posts like this instead of shipperfags, westfags, and purists fighting all day
>>584611162Yes, yes, you say that every time.
>>584610692Don't see anything different here
>>584611561localization implies amy is shortsighted for loving sonic, jp says she just goes too far
>>584611637Ah, so you're a shipper, got it
Crossworlds is a game with no identity.>Extreme Gear exist in the game not because they are part of any sort of aesthetic like they were in Riders, but just because Sonic Team is was banking on netting people who liked the those games.>Initial marketing leaned heavily on it being a Sonic racing game but now with DLC its more like Sonic and Sega All-Stars but isn’t marketed as such since Sonic alone is the more popular brand.>Saying that though, its not even a Sega All-Stars crossover specifically because of the amount of 3rd party shit crammed in because crossovers with 3rd parties are super popular.>Its not even a video game crossover because Sega was obligated to force in Paramount shitNothing about the game was made with any real vision, it’s clearly just some slop made to appeal to the lowest common denominator and appease shareholders.
>>584611712loving Sonic is Amy's character you dolt
>>584611637"ends up losing sight of her surroundings" is also about loving Sonic.
>>584611861if you're trying to say sonic doesn't like her back you're just wrong btw
>>584610896You’re absolutely right anon. I want to heatpat him and give him hugs and cuddle with him at night and give him endless compliments because he deserves it
>>584610896I don't. I want to hug him and kiss him and sleep with him and tell him he's cute and beautiful and awesome <3
Jumping over to /vp/ to remind you all that Amyfags are friendly compared to Mistyfags, who just made an entire fangame to shit on enemy ships and declare Misty the only one who really matters. You guys act like Amyfags are hitler but they are nothing. This is your threadly reminder. You don't know real hatred.
>>584609889more fun than sa1 is
>bestie melty
>>584612075>cry about sonamychads>make retarded claims>get btfo>seethethe westie cycle
>The shitty western cartoon I grew up with isn't OOC I swear!Or you grew up with it and won't accept basic reality
>>584610365Does Masabi work for Sonic Team?
>>584612136more like>sonamyfags start shitting on others unprovoked>others take a massive shit on sonamyfags and their ship>sonamyfag seethe for the next couple of hours with spam and potential guroshit>"another win for sonamychad!"
>>584612253The conversation started with this shipsister >>584604591
>>584610464How many babies?
>>584611814>>584611920Why are besties like this?
>>584612345Crying sonurgefag
>>584610907>characters normally fight coloful silly cartoon foes with ridiculous concepts>except this time they have to save the world from eldrich ancient demons who want revenge You're right. Every franchise needs an era like this.
>>584612305I am quite sure it started earlier with that one poster shitting on westshit as usual with /sthg/ being aware who that so called "purist" is
i like it
>>584611756Don't give a shitI want to race as Miku on a hoverboard against Persona 5 Joker driving the burger car from Spongebob
There aren't any Sonic characters outside of crossworlds iconic enough to sell DLC
>>584611038The Classic Scooby gang were also a "dimensional counterparts" to the Modern Gang for a movie. Hanna-Barbera also tried to memory-hole 13 Ghosts Daphne like ST does with Rouge's Heroes outfit. lol
Why does nobody like sonurge
Quok
>>584612715This is just proof that women rule shipping
>>584612715>why do nobody likes a toxic pairing in which she tries to kill him
>>584611756They're trying to triple the sales by adding outside franchises and attracting their fandoms.
>>584612715>Sontails more popular than Sonally in recent yearsOuch
>>584612715
>>584612494Shadow wouldn't give a shit.
>>584612494has shadow met surge yet?
>>584612886>why do nobody likes a toxic pairing in which she tries to kill himIronic point considering the other two off topic ships the Sonurgefag keeps using as a comparison
>>584612715It's niche. It's a crackship between Sonic and a comic OC.
>>584611861"shortsighted" means the same thing omgis this the illiterate nigger who copypastas that tails cant believe eggman killed sonic in sa2
>>584613148>deflectingok
>>584613130Shadow hasn't spoken a single word to any of the IDW girls
>>584613232>tails cant believe eggman killed sonic in sa2This is literally true by the way. Stop looking at localizations.
>>584613292Shadow barely interacts with the OCs in general.
>>584613310>i am a retard who sucks windii's windy clit
>>584613130Only in Speed Simulator
>>584610324This triggers /sthg/ more than gayposting. Let that sink in
>>584613232>>584613310Yes, the analysis is right. The Japanese is closer to shocked disbelief + reasoned faith that it’s impossible for *that* Sonic, not pure “denial of a fact he accepts.”### The actual Japanese (recap / Tails’ line after the capsule)「ウソだ!! あのソニックが死んじゃうなんて!! そんなことあるはずないよ」- **ウソだ!!** = “It’s a lie!! / No way!!” — pure shock/refusal to accept the report.- **あのソニックが** = “that Sonic” (the Sonic we know, the one who’s always pulled through). The あの puts emphasis on his specific character/ability.- **死んじゃうなんて** = the なんて particle frames the idea of him dying as absurd, unexpected, or ridiculous rather than a sober fact being processed.- **そんなことあるはずないよ** = “There’s no way something like that could happen” / “It can’t possibly be.” This is the logical conclusion based on who Sonic is.English localization vs. Japanese nuanceThe English “Sonic can’t be dead!” leans more toward emotional denial of something the character is treating as likely true. The Japanese is stronger on “this idea is absurd *because it’s Sonic*” — faith backed by reasoning about his nature, not just coping.Context supports it. The recap and surrounding lines emphasize that Sonic was blasted into space / fell for the trap, not a confirmed death announcement. Tails immediately channels it into determination. Sonic later contacts them (and is already outside by the time Tails reports success), so the “death” was never treated as settled fact on Tails’ side.The Japanese writing treats Tails as refusing the premise on character grounds rather than grieving an accepted loss. The English version flattens that into a more generic “denial” line. The poster’s linguistic breakdown of あの / なんて / はずがない is accurate.
>>584613310>I don’t know what denial means
The reason Shadow doesn't interact with the OCs is because the IDW crew doesn't want to crash the headcanons that he would be friends with them.
>>584613536you hate sonic and tails westie
>>584613292Based sigma male Shadow
>>584610692>>584611013Either way it's wrong because Amy was perfectly fine at noticing her surroundings until the 2000s shovelware overexaggerated the crush so the little cunt rabbit could exist
>>584613543People believe he can be friends with Tangle?
>>584613580You hate hbrain gookie
>>584613497tdlr;
>>584613497Sonic Forces Tails knew Sonic was dead for 6 months
>>584613682you hate sonic and tails westieyou dont play the games
>>584613637
>>584613734You hate Sonic and Tails, and using your brain gookie
>>584613671Shadowlin is the most popular heterosexual IDW ship after Silvisper (Which is considered homophobic by IDW fans) and Lanolin and Shadow have never interacted.
>>584613830Saying that Tails believed that Sonic died in SA2 is objectively wrong. Tails was correct to believe Sonic didn't die. If you disagree with this you are admitting that Tails doesn't actually know Sonic and that he's wrong about his best friend.
>>584613698
>>584613862If Silvisper is homophobic because it denies Whispangle, then logically, Sonadow is heterophobic for denying Sonamy
>>584614016The word you need to use is misogynistic. Heterophobic doesn't bat an eye to the people you're thinking of.
>>584613862Is morality instrumental towards a shipper's agenda in shipping arguments, or do the ships flow down from morality
>>584613908Tails watched Sonic explode in space, saying that Tails didn’t believe what his own eyes saw means you think Tails is stupid and don’t respect him. Furthermore, if you try to claim that Tails under any circumstance of Sonic being gone (Forces for example) would lose his mind and give up, you don’t understand it respect Tails or Sonic’s influence on him. You hate this series
>>584614237Tailsfags want Tails to not believe in Sonic lol. The scene in SA2 was Tails knowing Sonic didn't truly die but Tailsfags want him to misunderstand Sonic. You hate Tails.
>>584614237so you want tails to be wrong? lol ok no wonder yuta replaced him, yuta actually believes in sonic
>>584614210If these woke lunatics tell you that a straight ship is homophobic because it denies their yuri slop, then what does that tell you? It tells that they think heterosexuality is a bad thing. The alphabet movement is anti-heterosexual and anti-family
>>584614315The scene in SA2 was Tails understanding that Sonic would trust him to handle a situation even if he was gone, and subsequently coming through. This was contradicted in Forces thus making Forces OOC. You hate and don’t understand Tails or this series
>>584614214Shipping weapons>The creator said this thing that makes the enemy pairing impossible>the creator said this thing that implies my pairing is good >that pairing doesn't work with the canon personalities>that ship conflicts with gay and is homophobic>that ship has a power dynamic>that ship has an age gap >that ship only works because of mischaracterization in the adaptation >they are sibling coded
>>584614515Forces was in-character westie
>>584614553Nope, cry about it gookie
>>584614515Gone, not dead. Tails never believed Sonic died in the first place, because Tails is Sonic's best friend and knows the miracles that Sonic can produce. You're being very insulting towards Tails' own understanding of Sonic.
>>584614653>Tails never believed Sonic died in the first placeYes he did. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have been depressed (another stage of grief) about it after fighting Eggman, which is how he dropped his guard and let Eggman get the emerald
>>584613292He talked Lunar.inb4>girl
>>584614649Jp franchise foxcel
>>584614790Tails was distracted because he was worried nigga. The JP lines already settled it, if Tails had really believed Sonic died, he would have used different words. Look it up. You're in denial because it goes against your hadcanon and hateboner for Sonic Team.
>>584614864That the gooks royally fucked up with shit OOC games like Forces, and needed western movies to bail them out
>>584610907I opened a random episode. Scooby was fighting some ancient god, Daphne is in a coma, then to be continued. That is... different.
>>584614979Nobody cares foxcel, i hope you suffer
>>584614979forces wasnt ooc tho
>>584614965>he was worriedBut he shouldn’t have been according to you, since he apparently thinks Sonic is immortal and can never die and is Jesus Christ the 2nd and cured cancer
>>584614996What in the fuck.
You guys keep saying Forces is and isn't OOCDoes Forces contradict a previous Sonic video game? Why or why not?
>>584615124Being able to overcome the impossible doesn't mean he can never be hurt dumb fag
>>584614001Ah, much more digestible, thank you.
>>584615098It was, you hate Tails
>>584615173No. It contradicts nothing. It's bad writing, but it's not OOC. Tailsfags just developed an understanding from localizations and fandom headcanons instead of the original JP Sonic Team content, that's why they're all confused and pissed off.
you could be drawing
>>584615192Poor Nedry. He died a very horrible death.
>>584615165People probably said the same thing about Solaris
>>584615276no it wasnt lol
>>584615173>>584615293It contradicts the core character trait of Tails that he won’t give up even if Sonic isn’t around l. The people who try to argue otherwise only do so because they are pathetic jpshills or they hate Tails, period
>>584615330All I remember is that terrifying episode of Sonic Satan where the moon turns into a duck and devours a bat.
>>584615454You're so easy to bait, foxcel. I love seeing you suffer.
>>584615387if the wrong villain targetted Tails he would be FUCKED
>>584615462Do you mean satam
>>584615454The JP says he won't run away, and he didn't run away, so there is no contradiction
>>584615529I KNOW WHAT I SAIDbut also yes
>>584614996Every franchise for talking animals gets an edgy lore phase that eventually gets forgotten. Happened with Spyro and TMNT.
I think.I think I hate weabooslike raw, unbridled contempt.
>>584615387Also ooc>>584615558What he did was worse than running away. And either way your semantic faggotry doesn’t even matter, Tails doesn’t give up regardless. OOC garbage
>>584613862> most popular heterosexual IDW shipWhat about Espiangle (EspioxTangle)?>>584614016I thought Silvisper was "homophobic" because of how reactionary its proponents usually are to Whispangle.
>>584615748Weeaboo site
>>584615806No argument, you are just a tranny mad reality doesn't line up with your delusion
>>584615748Honeyfag, why do you hate weaboos?
Sonic has cancer
>>584615735I mean, if creators don't do it, fans will.However, I'm a bit pissed at you for quoting TMNT: the basic comic was edgy as fuck and people fucking died, it's the cartoon that them them super childish.
>>584615907I accept your concession bitch ass nigga
>>584615748Cry about it.
>>584614996>>584615165>How people felt seeing 00s/Modern Sonic games for the first time.
>>584616018LOLLMAO
>they revived 13 ghosts for a grand finale>people didn't like it because it tried to force its lore to work in the modern canon and tone which was offputting for all fans.
Did Shadow bully Ian Flynn?
crushing antoine under heavy machinery
It’s kinda hilarious to see Yuuta absolutely seething like this.
>>584616219Yes. He stole his bitch
>>584616219No, but ST did and that's why he and others don't use Shadow that much.
>>584616319jpfags when you have the audacity to say that a game can be ooc
>>584616407because he is incapable of understanding shadow
>>584594221>>Europe / GAMEGEAR>(10/92)>>Latin America / MASTER SYSTEM>(10/25/92)
>>584616413It's not ooc because nothing in the jp version contradicts it sweetie.
>>584616439Modern ST doesn't understand Shadow eitherBut I digress, two wrongs don't make a right.
>>584616328This is what arguing with an American is like. They just repeat the same thing louder and louder until you give up, then they claim you failed to answer them properly.
>>584615165
>>584616617"Modern" ST created Shadow btw
>>584616617How/why don't they understand Shadow?
>>584616631That's autistic people.
I mean. Ian is a fat loser with zero masculinity. Do you think he’d understand someone like Shadow?
>>584616617ian...
I feel concerned for all the people who say Sonic is more relatable when he starts whining like a gay little bitch.
>>584616513Tails showing ass to chaos is in the jp version just so you know, no localization can change that. OOC
What if Sonc died
>>584616824Not ooc cry harder
>>584616870The games are ooc, accept it then cry about it
>>584615972>>584616824>>584616961Foxcel melty
>>584616439>The beatings will continue until characterization improves.
>>584616961The games were never OOC. You just internalized an OOC version of Tails, since you are a self-inserter.
>>584616660What the fuck is that Indian little cumstain?Actually what's that Horned Witch?
>>584617020Not your boogeyman, and not gonna fall in line with your hivemind. Deal with it fag
>>584617127>>584617127>>584617127
>>584617098Silver the Hedgehog. Evan says he is indian
>>584617161keep crying foxcel
>>584617082Adventure era Tails isn’t OOC. That Tails wasn’t in Forces, OOC. You hate Tails
>n-nuh-not your boogieman ;_;
>>584616759Of course he wouldn't. That's why doesn't understand Amy either
