Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9664 - Cluckfiend Edition==NEWS==>Discord server for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>Support BoC!https://bookwalker.jp/series/568134/list/Previous Zone: >>584576630
>>584616728And Sovereign Citizens.
>>584531346>>584617127Lol I just saw thisTo you Amy newfriends who just started reading BoC last month and don't know how Japanese magazines work:The release halfway through the month named after the following month. The "December" issue releases halfway through November. It's not a mistranslation or an error, the error is in the OP
>>584617127Sonic is the terrorist for denying a growing foxboy his needed nutrition
>>584616631Stereotypes are bad. Americans aren't bad people, they just live in a culture with different values. They have a tendency of being uncompromising and loving freedom and being direct and AWESOME.
Consider the following.
Why do Tails fans keep saying Forces is OOC?
*headpats your OC*
>>584618102Its just foxcel
>>584616728>>584616631>>584616328What the fuck are you talking about
>>584618102Because it is
>>584617838>They have a tendency of being uncompromisingSo stubborn and refuse to admit they're wrong.>and loving freedomSo obnoxious.>and being directSo they like hurting other people's feeling in the name of "being direct".So basically, Amerifats are obnoxious, care not for others' feelings, and refuse to admit they're wrong.Glad we agree on that accurate portrayal of these losers.
Foxcel? Is that like Deadcell and Foxhound combined?
>>584618247Why are you self-replying bestie
>>584618337SNAKE GET OUT OF THERE! YOU'RE IN A SONIC THREAD!
Got called furry for liking shadow
>>584618729Anon I have news for you, you may want to sit down
>>584618247This is over-exaggeration. Being bold and strong isn't a weakness, and a lack of compromise can create innovation and have a variety of positive effects on a society. As well as negative impacts. Directness can be both good and bad, but it means that everybody knows what people actually mean.American freedoms enable people to do what they want to. This is in principle, but not always policy. Americans assume by default that the government shouldn't tell them what to do. Even the most woke ones agree in a sense. This is a good thing.
>>584618885Sonic is not furry
>>584618337>>584618591>>584618663>>584618337Classic or Modern FOXHOUND logo?
>>584619071Yes it is. They are animals who walk and talk like humans, that is the definition of furry
>>584619093What about this one?
>>584619303
>>584619284Mickey mouse is not furry, bugs bunny is
>>584618591The latter looks and fits better with the lore and universe.
>>584619430No difference
>>584619430Is the distinction based on sex appeal?
>>584618591>Tails, I'm already a demon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOlrGVpFiko
Solid Snake hates Sonic though
>>584619284I don't feel like it counts as furry if they don't even look like the animal they're supposed to be. For all the shit we give the movies about making them aliens, they may as well be.
Modern Sonic is furry, Classic Sonic is not furry.
>>584620272>skin on tits and not furNot furry
>>584620138
https://x.com/SonicOfficialJP/status/2110658303839855089
>>584619546Meant for >>584619093
>>584620192Thatās creating a gray area that no one will ever effectively be able to define. If you say Sonic doesnāt look like a hedgehog you could also easily say Bugs Bunny doesnāt look like a rabbit. Any anthro is a furry, thatās the definition
>>584620484>If you say Sonic doesnāt look like a hedgehog you could also easily say Bugs Bunny doesnāt look like a rabbit.I think there's a big difference in a gray rabbit that walks on two legs and a blue hedgehog with (visually) less than 10 spines on his entire body.
>>584620484Sonic, furry or not, would benefit from being more furry. Sonic should have more integration into the furry fandom
>>584616759Of course he wouldn't. That's why doesn't understand Amy either
Surge loves fucking with Sonic
>>584620308Between these two designs, which one attracts more furries? The numbers speak for themselves.
Coyotes come here to job and cause trouble to others
>>584620558I think it doesnāt matter and theyāre both furries because theyāre both animals with human characteristics, which is what furry means
>>584620990Is Bigfoot considered furry?
>>584620830>classic amy tagWho specifically wants to look at porn of classic amy over normal amy
>>584620972I think it's neat that Corocoro is having a monster design competition(?) for this storyline, and the kid that wins gets a Switch 2.
>>584620972Does Imada actually just hate Tails?
>>584621103apparently
>>584621103Is Bigfoot a human?
why did they do this?
>>584620972Tails WHO?
>>584621103That's a good question
>>584621464Thatās them witnessing Silverās final form, from Weedhog to Bongver
>>584620425I like the classic one cuz it's goofy and kinda reminds me of Fang. Here's my sloppy edit, maybe I'll refine it someday, lol
>>584619864>Miles "If he's black send him back" Prower
So if Sonic Forces is ooc, what is IC? What is the acceptable range of Sonic media to use as IC? Where do you draw the line?
https://x.com/BennettWaisbren/status/2110808404277301584
The ice villain Sonic killed was a roboticized human
>>584622357>Casually driving on my way to my shitty 9 to 5 where I hate my boss>Suddenly see cars flying off in the distance>wtf>Last thing my unfortunate ass sees is a blur of pink racing towards my car before I'm launched several dozen feet into the air and die in the explosion.
>>584622357This guy's on to something. We need a Sonic game that has an open world map as big and interactive as the one in GTA 5
>>584622357This is the Sonic franchise if Naka never goes away
>>584622627Could these AIs replace the cutscenes and storylines of GTA5 with Sonic?
>>584622627You can't actually do anything in these vibe coded games combinations..if you actually try and take on any missions the game falls apart
>>584622357Someone needs to add THPS/Skate skateboarding to this. It'd be so fucking awesome to be able to skateboarding across the giant GTA5 world.
>>584622357These AI mods are kinda cool. Even if there isn't that much to do in this besides running around, it will be interesting to see things evolve
>>584622749If the AIs get smart, then I believe they could
>>584622882I mean isn't that just already Skate?
>>584622586Have no fear! Amy Rose is here!>Amy you killed like 300 people just getting here.They were in my way!
>>584623021I haven't played Skate, I only play THPS
Man I miss being able to just do property damage in Sonic games
>>584623021Yes. The key to gaming Sonic games recapture that 2000s vibe isn't just for them to have dark stories, vile villains, and cool Rock music. Their environments also need to have urban and suburban terrain. SA!, SA2, Shadow 05, and Sonic 06 had this
>>584623386 Sonic Team is never going back on the toon town NPCs and stupid looking backgrounds
>>584623357Lost technology + lack of funding + small billion dollar indie companyplease understand.
>>584623386 (me)*Sonic games recapturing*SA1
>>584623357You can destroy cars in Frontiers.
In MGR you can literally cut almost everything in the game to literal hundreds of pieces and at most you'll get a 5-8 framerate drop.Games made nowadays can't even fucking bother to actually put in dynamic destruction to environments and even automated, scripted environment destruction tanks framerates down to 20 fps even on good PCs.
>>58462231606 was the last truly IC mainline game. Unfortunately the gameplay, plot, Silver and Elise sucked so bad that it tanked the reputation of the whole series, and ST overcorrected by switching up the entire tone and characterizations. Gens making Classic and Modern 2 different things sealed the deal
>>584623869So in order to truly be ic, a writer must only use games older than 06
Douge
>>584623826It's much dire than that.300 million dollar funded games can't even bother to have proper texture transparency on fucking water. Forget about reflections.
>>584624005Yes
>>584619864>Punished SonicFuck hat reminds me of a bad fanfic idea I once had but never put to paper.
>>584623869>the gameplay, plot, Silver and Elise suckedIt was a little unpolished and you let those faggots gaslight you just like SEGA did. You're part of the problem.
>>584624005>>584624097So BoC is OOC because it's based on Unleashed?
I'm just going to say it so it's out there.This anniversary is worse than the 25th on every metric. Which is honestly kind of mindboggling.
Plap plap plap get Surge pregnant plap plap plap
>>584624304For Tails it is, since heās neeted up in a spagonia lab instead of adventuring with Sonic
>>584624370It's the worst officially recognized anniversary.
Ok but taking the open zone idea from frontiers and putting it on a big town to do tricks on as sonic could be sick.
If you restrict yourself to only >sa1>sa2>heroes>shadow the hedgehog last story>06for characterization, you will never write OOC, but that doesn't mean you will write good
You can write good stories that are OOC.You can write bad stories that are IC.But you will never ever be able to write a good story with Belle.
>>584624974I want to write a fanfic of my favorite ship, Scourge and Belle. A love story where this scumbag version of Sonic falls deeply in love with Eggman's rejected cute daughter. It will be better than everyone else's crackship.
>>584625116My crack ship is BayonettaxSonic and I highly doubt you'll be able to surpass that.
that ship sounds extremely rapey bro
>BayoxSonicI can see it.
>>584622148>Miles "Kukku crusher" Prower>Miles "Avian annihilator" Prower>Miles "If it's a bird it gets burned" Prower>>584624102post it
>>584624912>06>not occ
the smartest thing the adventure era games did was keep the dialogue SHORT. Even if a line was dumb as fuck you only had to hear it for a few seconds.
>>584625654Break down for us why 06 is ooc
>Read IDW's Sonic & Godzilla crossover >Shadow jobs AGAIN Kek! How can Shadow fans even defend these comics?
>>584624370People can shit on Mario's recent anniversary all they want, but at least Nintendo remastered Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, making them available to play on modern hardware. Sega and Sonic Team can't even bothered to remaster or even do a barebones port of any of the 2000s Sonic titles. I would even take a digital exclusive port of Sonic Shuffle, because at least that would be something.
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Mobian_(Paramount)
>>584625916Sega has no idea how to remaster those old games.
Cream the Rabbit.
They're talking about you, /sthg/.
>>584626126Still more Sonic/Sega characters in Transformed than Crossworlds.
>>584626015Then they should learn. If every single Yakuza game is getting remastered and brand new emulators are being created solely for minigame purposes, then the same can happen for Sonic.
>>584626030Me until 2027
Modern nic >good story and ICSA1SA2 Heroes>bad story and IC06Gens>good story and OOC ColorsFrontiers>bad story and OOC Lost WorldForces
>>584625654That's correct, it is not OOC.
>>584625880I hath declared it so
>>584626126Why is this person assuming I don't hate Transformed's roster?
>>584626281You may want to learn how to count again.
>>584626460correct as FUCK I could fuck you right now
metal amy when
>>584626634Are you Rouge the Bat? If not, sorry not interested
>>584626707Three years ago.
>>584626460Sonic has too much bad writing from the japanese and too much western interference. We need Maekawa back
>>584626631There are more Sonic and Sega characters in it.
>>584626808
CrossWorlds would have been better without any of the crossover dogshit.
spongebob kart (it has sonic for some reason)
>>584626915Anon, there are almost as many Sonic characters alone in CrossWorlds as there are Sega characters in Transformed, including Sonic characters.
Every ongoing Sonic comic series has human civilians except for the canon one
>>584627137>except for the canon oneWha...? BoC does have humans.
>>584627317Sonic and the Blade of Courage is not canon
>>584627391Nice try, Chris
IDW and Sonic Prime are canonBlade of Courage and Sonic X are not canon.
>>584627128Still too many non-Sonic/non-Sega characters.
>>584627528Non-Japanese media literally can't be canon.
>>584627572At least they're better picks than Danica Patrick, Miis, Xbox Avatars, and the Yogscast guy.
>>584627708They're not.
>>584627461>>584627587Can you not sperg out just for one thread? Thanks.
I understand we wanted more sonic characters but we still would have gotten the Nickelodeon characters because of Paramount.
>>584627770Damn, rare Danica main.
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>584627772Fuck off back to Twitter, Chris. SoJ doesn't take your job seriously, you will be forgotten like Pontac and Graff in 10 years>>584627883I want more Sonic characters in these types of games, but I'd rather have less Sonic characters if it also means no substanceless crossovers at this point
Lucky for me i'm slowly distancing from this franchise, the character design is top, but the management was always cursed for some reason.Even 20 years ago, sega was a fart that could do better than just slapping a single cheap ass gameplay mechanic for each character and call it a day. I'm tired of pretending otherwise.And yes, this includes SA2 no matter how much niggas tell me "install this mod" or "use this version" like nigger... a good game is a good game, if a modder has to fix your game then it's absolute ass. Sonic team does the bare minimum for everything, to restart a sub-franchise like the classic one they needed mania from the ROM community.I'm gonna tell you this my niggers, once the movies are dead the rest is also dead unless God grants you a miracle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh0fQLR0Ev8GN
Sega Japan had a bit of a leak of games theyāre publishing >Batman Arkham Collection for Switch 2>Origins, Asylum, City, and Knight as individual releases>Crash 4 Switch 2 >Lolipop Chainsaw 2 Back2Back PS5>Stellar Blade Complete Edition Switch 2>Control Ultimate Edition Switch 2>Farming Sim 2027 PS5 Switch 2>Stupid Never Dies PS5Nothing major
>>584624102*That>>584625595Alright, here's the premise:>"Bad future" Forces AU>Resistance is fragmented. Major characters dead or mia>Eggman is missing, and his empire's reduced to petty warlords carving up territory for themselves (Egg Bosses?)>GUN bankrolls proxy wars against eggperial remnants throughout the globe>Sonic awakens from a coma after an unspecified period of time>His memory is hazy, his body is scarred and Metal's arm is grafted to his body>He finds Tails and they set out to reform the Resistance togetherI could never settle on whether Punished Sonic is the real deal or the avatar character taking up his mantle. My inability to commit to one idea why I never developed this concept any further.
>>584628609Gudnite.
>>584628373>distancingYou're not going anywhere, fag. SA2 is perfect as is, stop whining and get good.
>>584628609pleasant dreams Kit anon
>>584628609Goodnight!
I guess most of you already moved to the official discord spam channel. these hours used to be very active 2 years ago wow. and it was meaningfully active and not the same 2 people rage baiting
Stacyiona!
>>584629043>these hours used to be very active 2 years agoFalse
>>584629043Sega broke the fanbase, discord broke the niche part of the internet, and imageboards got buckbroken by horrible moderation. What else is new? Everyone is circlejerking and away because why do you want to read about arenafag for another afternoon having his schizo moment, or duo trying to bait all day amyfags?
>>584629720We went through 4 threads in a single day in september 2024 when the sxsg tie-in Shadow manga released it's first issue
War gives (You) meaning, turns out you're more alive during war than peace.
>>584629943Late 2024 and early 2025 was the fastest this general had ever been. Because SEGA was actually releasing Sonic stuff at the time.But these hours have always been slower.
>>584630018yeah yeah just don't go fighting for jews.
>>584630164I mean, i wasn't talking about military wars... but yes.
>>584630018War has no appeal to me unless i can picture myself as a warcraft 3 worker unit
All Blackwood had to do in IDW was go down from the castle and get a girl from the village. Why did he need mind control powers?
>>584631193ego or something
https://youtu.be/rxH8KX6UtbY
Fuck off dick sucking aids-ridden faggot
>>584631431SPANKING
>>584617543https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_dateYep, CoroCoro is one of THOSE magazines.What backwards-ass world is this that we can't trust the dates to be the dates?
>>584632185SPARKLING!https://youtu.be/hcdDnwm4pAE
>>584632804Sonic should be like this and early One Piece.
>>584632804no
>>584632771Now I know how a tailsfag feels >>584616494
>>584633229so why the fuck did wilypheroth talk like that
Which Sonic character is most likely to pee and shit themselves when they get scared?
>>584633356ntr is shit
>>584633229
>>584633396Obviously Tails
>>584633407You are more boring than watching paint dry>>584633363He is a filthy peasant like Silver >>584633431Kek
>>584633456I thought of Silver
>>584633514ntr is still shit
If IDW wasn't so scared of minimum high stakes they would have done something like this
how does it feel to know 20 years ago, the franchise was already a laughing stock?
>>584633514Watch your HANDS, Dr. Blackwood...
>>584633738This would be cooler if there was surrounding context that justified the line
>>584633823Happy birthday Tails!!
>>584633823 hola!>>584633849 who the hell has a fang like this lol
>>584633886Most people don't have time to write a 20 page long comic
>>584633356...And then Silver crushes Blackwood into literal paste.
>>584633229Actually, Prolific Velocity doesn't seem that bad at writing. I like the comic a lot. But seeing it posted here without context, makes it seem almost like a parody of all the things you guys make fun of.This dialogue, although wordy, is not that far away from what Ian Flynn would write. The art is definitely the coolest part.
>>584630674This is art by the Scott Pilgrim writer guy.
>>584633738>>584633514>wordswordswordsShitverbros embarrassing themselves yet again!
>>584633191>>584595195>We do have "Europe" and "Latin America" but they're vague and not country-specific like a lot of dates you see online tend to be (pretty much mainly JP, US, UK, and occasionally AU)Thanks, Sonic Team, for being forward-thinking enough to include release dates but not catering to fans who would try to figure this out by country instead of continent decades later
>>584633514>>584633738Too dramatic for some short filler-lit arc and Silver doesn't remember his original apocalyptic future. Very tryhard. Silverfags want that aura so bad.
Randomfox is defending the lore team and saying Amy was never changed
>>584634695
>>584633738You can feel the seethe the artist had making this
>>584634693>DramaticIs the bare minimum is someone is being mind controlled. You have to show how much of a freak the other guy is
If you give this franchise to Silverfags they will basically just turn it into misery porn
>>584635070Who are you talking to? Are you off your meds again?
>>584635070Silver and Silverfags deadass deserve nothing. He had no business ever coming back after 06
I seriously do not understand the popularity of Generations. It's such a bland game with short and uninteresting stages
>>584635070It'll just be embarrassing attempts to make Silver look cool.
The imposter syndrome arc is like if Pokemon had an episode that tried to explain why Team Rocket aren't in jail
>>584635070Good? Silver is a tragic character so his stories should be tragic
>>584635195It was hyped by retarded boomers who āmissed the good old daysā by validating their delusions that āClassicā Sonic was better and deserving of recognition
>>584634417That Sonic/Godzilla crossover is literally just walls of text. I'm shocked Ian isn't the one writing it.
>>584635325>that āClassicā Sonic was better and deserving of recognitionIt is tho. Adventure and forward put Sonic in dark ages we're still in.
Silver will never be cooler or engaging as Sonic and Shadow. His fans need to give up.
>>584635195Can't speak for everyone, but I really liked Shadow's portions. The way you jump, hop on a rail, then attack an enemy, then hop on a spring, then land on a rail again, it felt rewarding.
>>584635438Only 06 and Shad05 did that
>>584635539I meant the original 2011 game. I haven't played Shadow Generations because getting it forces you to get the original game alongside it as well and I don't want SEGA to think I wanted to buy that trash. Besides they based Shadow Generations off of it, so I don't have high expectations
>>584635481Wrong
>>584635680>gunsCmon man can you at least act like silver can be cool without stealing valor?
>>584635673>2011I-I played it one month ago and I had a blast...
If Silver was a woman, people would notice how bad the uwufication in IDW is
>>584635560Agree to disagree, we can agree anyway 2000s are the blame for Sonic downfall.
>>584635790 Stealing what?
>>584635894The early 2000s were peak Sonic, then it turned sour because Shitver ruined everything
If Surge was a woman, her character would be misunderstood and reduced to a tsundere
Sonic Forces is about to hit 9 years on the market, holding the record for longest running Sonic game in print
>>584636028Shadow 05 ruined the franchise, Silver didn't do anything
>>584634108I do, actually, on the other side. My right canine tooth is asymmetrically lower than my left and protrudes from my lip, and I've been told I look like a cat from some angles because of it.
>>584636203Shad05 was merely a memeable low stakes joke. 06 and Silver was an actual oil-spilling trainwreck that the games never recovered from
>>584636194Booooooooooo
They made a 2000s grimdark edgy game and couldn't even let you kill humans
>>584636351In other words, 05 ruined the reputation and 06 came for the finishing blow
Silver is a bum.
Only IDW fans beg for more vulnerability in Sonic. You know an idea is shit if the only people who back it are one of the comic factions
>>584636591Couldnāt you kill the GUN soldiers in Shadow 05?
>>584636856No
Here's some Eggman...https://archiveofourown.org/works/79175501/chapters/253017401
>>584636856You can only knock them down. They groan and talk to you when you pass by. You can even wake them back up.
>>584634695He made a Tumblr post on it?
>>584636856No. Only tthe black arms, they exploded in green blood. The GUN soldiers only dropped on all fours and assumed the breeding position.
>>584636769Jpfags literally defend Forces Tails, aka vulnerability done in a worse way than anything in IDW
>>584637056Forces is IC
>>584637056Sonic Forces did nothing wrong. The comics are wrong.
>>584637071No it is not
>>584637056I'm too tired to correct you Tails "fans" (you are not fans) tonight. None of the games ever mischaracterized Tails
>>584636982>>584636985I guess if you were able to kill them the game wouldāve gotten a T for teen rating
>>584637056it wasn't wrong though. it was bad writing but not ooc
>>584637201Every game after 06 did. You donāt care about Tails or the characters you just have an agenda to defend at all costs
>>584636591You know that weird cut from the intro where it looks like one of the GUN soldiers was bracing for impact? In early builds, it looks like he actually got blown, then the adjacent soldiers look shocked for a second and keep firing. I think the humans being invincible was a change made during the E-10 ratings crunch.
>>584637262It was bad writing BECAUSE it was ooc you moron
>>584637372no it wasn't
>>584637405Yes, it was. Tails is not a useless coward, and no context imaginable can ever excuse it
>>584636769>vulnerable
>>584637492seethe
>>584637590Everyone owes this guy an apology. The movies and IDW are proof that he was right. Fans want a vulnerable, relatable Sonic.
I want an SA2-like game about police corruption and criminal conspiracies
>>584637891cant you just play an infamous game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6fwZqO9CD8imagine if sega got banned from steam and every sega game got removed. that would be comedy
>>584638035If itās a Sonic game, then itās so much better?
>>584637891Make HIS game.
Last post before I go to bed. If you took Forces story, didnāt change a single thing about it, and had it originate from IDW instead of a game, NO ONE here would argue with calling Tails OOC in it. In fact, theyād passionately agree. Likewise, if you took IDW Uwuver and had him originate from a game story instead, theyād defend it to the grave. These people are straight up retarded and agenda-rotted to the core. That is all, good night
Why is Sega giving more money and care to the Yakuza games than the Sonic games even though Sonic is their biggest franchise and the source of their mascot?
>>584638129
>>584638084The most I can do is write the dialogue and come up with the game concepts
I genuinely don't get why people call Lanolin "Sally 2.0." She doesn't act like Sally. She doesn't like Sonic, isn't his friend, doesn't come across as a competent leader, and isn't royalty. What is supposed to make her another Sally?There's a better case for calling Blaze "Sally 2.0," since at least Blaze is a princess. Even that would be a shallow comparison. Sharing one trait doesn't make two characters interchangeable."She leads a military group."Okay? By that logic, is Director Rockwell Sally 3.0? Is every serious female character who gives orders another Sally now?Leadership is a role, not a personality. How does someone lead? Why do people follow them? Do they trust their teammates? How do they handle disagreements? Those details matter more than "woman in charge."The teams aren't interchangeable either. The Freedom Fighters are, at their core, friends defending their home. Their personal bonds aren't incidental; they're the foundation of the group.The Diamond Cutters feel more formal and mission-oriented, closer to an outfit deployed to handle problems beyond its immediate home. Calling both groups "military teams" ignores the difference I'm talking about.And Sally's relationship with Sonic isn't some minor detail. Their friendship, mutual trust, and ability to work together are central to her place in the team. Lanolin doesn't have that dynamic with him. You can't brush that aside while insisting they're basically the same character.If you mean "both are serious female leaders who push back against Sonic," just say that. That's a similarity, but it isn't a whole characterization. Disagreeing with Sonic doesn't make someone Sally.I'm not saying comparisons are forbidden. I'm asking what this one actually explains. "Sally 2.0" suggests a much closer resemblance than "they both give orders," and I don't understand why people keep treating it as obvious.
>>584638192Yakuza has much more consistent developments and success. And is of Segaās horrible lifestyle of hookers and alcohol.
>>584638591>isn't his friendI believe Sonic treats her as a friend.>is Director Rockwell Sally 3.0?People called her better Lanolin at the time.>The teams aren't interchangeable either. The Freedom Fighters are, at their core, friends defending their home.I mean Fleetway had its own freedom fighters. The group had constant new members. Evan Stanley wanted the restoration to be the new freedom fighters >If you mean "both are serious female leaders who push back against Sonic," just say that. That's a similarity, but it isn't a whole characterization. Disagreeing with Sonic doesn't make someone Sally.Sally slapping Sonic is one of the most memorable things from Archie.
>>584638591>I genuinely don't get why people call Lanolin "Sally 2.0." She doesn't act like Sally. She doesn't like Sonic, isn't his friend, doesn't come across as a competent leader, and isn't royalty. What is supposed to make her another Sally?Sonic and Archie Sonic are different people. Lanolin is the new Sally
>>584638827Sonic is the world's friend. Lanolin isn't particularly friendly to Sonic.Rockwell is an antagonist which fits Lanolin's whole bit better than a supporting character.Sally was never a leader of the fleetway freedom fighters so the comparison is moot. I do agree that the restoration is a poor attempt at the fleetway freedom fighters but that is irrelevant when discussing their archie or satam incarnation.Sally slapping Sonic is one of the most OOC things from Archie.
>>584635790Okay.>He just stole the fur off that guy's back>He just stole a bike, Shadow also has a bikeSilver does it COOLER. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmcEuocbSMAPH0Cdu0neR7qOYrOad6dB_PXEnPRM24Y
>>584638591Rockwell is just Ken Penders Sally >are all serious girls SallyYes.
>>584638970The Restoration died. So it doesnāt matter.
>>584638883Notice how I never said Game Sonic and Archie Sonic are the same.My point is that their relationship to Sonic is completely different. I never once even brought up Archie. Sonic is far more in-character in SatAM than Archie. The core described dynamic between Sonic and Sally still exists in the franchise's current incarnation with Sonic and Tails.
>>584639239Lanolin is literally Ian's attempt to force Sally to be canon
>>584639161No 3 issues later they went to an outpost so despite the HQ being destroyed it still exists
Lanolin is a fun character, possibly secretly the best IDW OC. She is a total normalfag not equipped to deal with just how insane Sonic's world is. It'd be much better if she was a human to convey better just how much her worldview stands out from the others, but alas.
>>584638653This is just depressing
>>584639161>the retoration wuz 1 buildingoh my god.
>>584639157Is that why you guys shit Blaze all the time?
All serious men are Shadow? All serious women are Sally?
Knoc-knock, motherfuckas.Scratch & Grounder are here to bust (You) the fuck.
>>584640119GMS
>>584609631I would say Modern Sonic includes the design changes made for 3D modeling reasons. Sonic Adventure's models lacked the tall proportions and was generally more like Classic in terms of silhouettes, but also had a unique textured look. Yet, even early promotional art incorporated the details that the models haven't, and so have the promotional/pre-rendered models. In Sonic Pocket Adventure, the same applied to large artwork used in the game, and even the player sprites were partially redone in development, with things like spines and limbs being obvious differences. This would be retained for the Advance games, where the proportion differences could be emphasized better. I think these elements are part of Modern's design identity, so I disagree with classifying them as just a 3D aspect.
>>584638591>>584638970>>584639157Anyone talking about Rockwell is funny cause Iām pretty sure the twist of that human character is that sheās secretly Rouge the Bat. And the advance disguise technology Tom used in her debut film would set up the twist.Not to mention. The old Walters was at a secret base housing aliens and his death location was an area for fathers to take their daughters. The main reason for Rockwell to take her aim on going after Sonic and killing him. Not to mention her name is gem-themed.
>>584640119dafuq is Grounder holding? A defibrilator?
>>584639535Look at Sonicās 35th anniversary. Tell me what you see.
>>584638192It's too long to explain, but essentially Nagoshi had tons of power at Sega and was the reason why Yakuza got tons of budget while every other franchise were either dead(Jet Set Radio, Golden Axe, etc), killed painfully(Sakura Wars), or struggling to stay afloat as shown with Sonic. Of course, he's no longer working at Sega nowadays but it's going to take awhile to undo all the damage he caused within the company.
>>584640310>Movie Rouge the Bat is Uncle Ruckus
>>584640310Why would Rouge want to kill Sonic
>>584633229>>584633514Goddamn. Silvaze fans really wanted a melodramatic love story, huh? Too bad this arc ended up being a nothingburger kek.
>>584638192A debilitating combination of the videogame Yakuza and real IRL yakuza.
>>584640310Are you saying Rockwell saw Walters as a papa
>>584640526go suck a ratcock with your ugly frontmouth amy
>>584640493Because she thinks Sonic killed her dad, Walters. The only human Gun character that suspiciously is the most friendly with the āaliensā.
>>584635863They wouldn't because silvaze would be pushed more for the yuri agenda and girls are allowed to be uwu if its lesbian.
>>584610692That's just a gag based on how Amy's love for Sonic did lead her to rash decisions at times. (Twinkle Park, getting captured by Eggman on the Ark) The part after is the punchline of the gag where Cream's direct wording provokes one of her other traits (being tomboyish) as a result. I don't see what the problem here is.
Is Amy Rose pink because she is female?
>>584640526Silvaze aside, even non-silvaze arts focus on blackwood mindraep shit instead and everyone ignores the deer. somehow idw always manages to do the least marketable move.
>>584640778Does the Pope shit in the woods
>>584640658You first
>>584640842I have a sidemouth like all cool manly men who get their cocks sucked by frontmouth-havers.
>>584640640Yeah. And Waltersā location of death for his secret meeting with Sonic was a joke about him being a girl dad.
>>584640310You're getting ridiculously close to a headcanon I have about Rockwell that I never told anyone. You make me uncomfortable.
>>584641274>You make me uncomfortable.NTA but at /STHG/ that is an honour....
>Tom's first thought to distract rockwell is to impersonate her dead father and tell her to go away
>>584617838The defining traits of modern American culture is hypocrisy and pride in ignorance.
>>584641630Iāve had enough to where I feel like Iāll be fine for the rest of my life if I donāt have it, I havenāt really felt a craving for it despite my masturbation frequency
>>584640431I wonder what Sega thinks now after recent Yakuza flops, and the expectations of Strangers than heaven
>>584641630Not anymore, thanks to this place.
>>584639423She is OOC
>>584641873Undergroudn accidentally made Sonic more IC by offloading most of the SOA-isms to his siblings. Then they overdid it by making him scared of water.
>>584640793How did Evan think, out of four characters, the normie-nobody deer should be the focus of the last chapter while the important fights happened on the background? This is not normal behavior. I don't know what happened but someone in IDW needs to rethink what stories are being told in an action manga. This is an essential toddler mistake who has never written anything in his entire life.
Start criticizing artists NOW. Be mean and do it with ruthless aggression
>>584642113It's weird how most of the issue is Dapple shouting at Blackwood while Silver and Blaze have... less than a fight. I feel like Evan didn't want to show Blaze and Silver hurting each other so she chickened out.
>>584642113The latest issue was fine, Slashy.
>>584641996Nobody told me the Frogs were THIS based!
>>584641274Itās pretty obvious to those that take their time to sit down, make notes, and realize āHmm, why did they establish there is technology that allows for someone to completely disguise their entire appearance. This is the kind of technology a spy like Rouge would useāāHmm. Walters was at a base that was supposed to house aliens. We have no General Towers but ROUGE would be a perfect witness to those events. And ROUGE would end up here. And they would need to bottleneck the whole place for themselves.āāHmm. Walters chosen to be in a girly place out of any location that would be perfect for a grown man like him to take his daughters to. Isnāt it strange how nothing about his family is explored, he ends up dying here, and Rockwell ends up being the poor sap to inspect his dying body.āāWe all know in Sonic adventure 2, the main characters are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Rouge, and Eggman. And they establish the twist of the gem-loving Rouge actually being a GUN agent. Isnāt it kind of strange how Sonic 3 features all of these characters except Rouge, but then introduces gem-themed Director Rockwell as this massive āalienā hater. And she happens to be in a movie featuring technology perfect for the Gun-agent ROUGE to use.āRouge is going to be so F@@&@ up and unexpected once she finally loses it. Just imagine the fanarts sheās getting. The coolest Rouge to match Shadowās edge.
>>584642113I think evan was probably trying to imitate the ''vvind'' thing of inspiring other random one-off characters(tikals,elise, shahra, merlina etc.) she did this in the soleil arc too, but as bad as that one was at least soleil was actually being inspired by sonic and tails, dapple's resolution isn't even related to silver's character. people say blaze is replacable there but silver is unironically even more replaceable.
>>584642156>that amateur who bullied himself despite the strangely-ooc toxic-postivity he was getting
>>584642284Slashy you are obsessed. When will you admit Evan can write a good story?This isn't fair to her. She genuinely listened to feedback to write Silver better. The critiques you levy against her are not grounded in reality, Slashy.
I have somewhat of an idea for classic cream now but its unoriginal
>>584642185Still, it is like selling apples at the same time as you say you are selling pears>>584642192It was boring. The last two chapters wasted because >Muh low stakesFuck off. This is as edgy as a toothless Chihuahua
Cartoons are great because they never really had a business model. Early cartoons tried to sell pop songs but it didn't really work, Disney pivoted to feature films and when Warner didn't know what to do with them they stuck the troublemakers in an old termite infested bungalow and hoped they'd go away. So they basically just did whatever they want. Some 80s cartoons tried to advertise toys, but it's really unclear whether it worked and 90% of the episodes are not about that. Most cartoons are really just crazy creative people dreaming up wild bullshit just because they can.
>>584642113what if the MAN DATES made her change the story at the last minute? We never saw these evil versions of Silver and Blaze in the story.
>>584642353I'm not Slashy.I still felt silver lacked a bite there that he had in 00s. it isn't bad as early silver but still pretty boring compared to 06 and rivals.
>>584642479 >he doesn't deny itSlashy you're just mad because Evan Stanley is actually respected by the fandom unlike you.There's nothing wrong with lower stakes. And this chapter did have high stakes, Blaze, a very important character, was brainwashed. Silver saved her and it was exciting. Why are you always so negative, Slashy? Can't you just appreciate the comic for what it is?
>>584642540Never say "man dates" in reference to Evan Stanley again.
>>584642540I don't see why mandates would change the sill lifes concepts.
The arc was rushed. It's not a bad story, but it just comes off as mid for how rushed it is.
>>584642540I don't know if it's true, but someone said that the covers are approved first while the story is revision to save time. Which explain weird covers like this.So yeah, the script changed a lot.
>>584642710It's a two parter. I've read better more elaborate comic stories in half the pages.They had the pages to tell it, they just waste panel space on nothing like usual then rush the ending when they realize theyre running out of space, then wonder why every issue takes so long to make and always gets delayed.
>>584642540>Evan WANTED to do an edgy Silvaze story but Sega forced her to make it bland and boring>>584642185>Evan never wanted to make an edgy Silvaze because she was afraid of the fanbase and/or likes the characters Hmmm....
>Yeah destroy the hugbox its why I'm on this site I xae here to leave that stuff behind. There's places on the internet for hugboxes and this is not one of themMan, I old me really knew how to rock and roll.
Corporate doesn't give a fuck about what story they tell, they just want to keep things looking on brand to avoid another archie situation.
>>584642771Oh. That explains why Blackwood seemingly does absolutely nothing to warrant this kind of creepy appearance. Especially since Silverās gloves are established to be meant to make it easier for him to control his powers.
What would the fanbase be like if Tails was a girl? meaning Sonic X gets a harem all to himself.How insane would the Tails vs Amy shipping wars be?>Sonic needs a demure submissive INTELLIGENT engineer >Not a retarded angry obnoxious "Sonic loves me, trust me bro" pink menace that strangles him like Elmyra from Tiny Toons. >Bitch needs to wear a skirt and be pink to indicate she's female. That's pathetic. When she doesn't strangle Sonic to death she mopes and plays the victim card like a jew.
>>584642594I usually like IDW, and defend it, this last chapter just was a huge trainwreck. Not in the sense that people are mad because >Oh my god look at what Shadow saidBut because of a weird decision of focusing on the worst possible character in the worst possible time. To me this is the worst thing IDW has ever done, simply because that's not how you write a comic. It's not even about the low stakes at this point.Also I'm not splashy, I don't know who that is, and you should stop building straw men calling every anon names.
>>584642771She sneaked in sissyver more subtly.
>>584643110>sonic>haremno
>>584643047Western comics coverbait much more than manga covers do too.
>>584643110Amyfags would get MOGGED HARD and all their arguments would make them look more sexist than they already are.
I'm starting to realize comics were better when the writers drew the cover first and then the story after
>>584643234idw should start putting shadow on the cover of every issue
This thread, similiar threads and fancomics do way more to sell Blackwood as a villain desu
>>584643110>>584643316Girl tails would still be a child too young to be serious shipping material
>>584643525The internet in general did a greater job at selling Blackwood than IDW will ever do, because it gives character the edge the comics refuse to have
>>584643110>Tails? TAILS? >Gadget Hackwrench feminism "girls can be engineers, too!" bullshit. A woman cannot be an engineer.>Women should stay in the kitchen, wear skirts and wear pink just like Amy, but that's not all she can kick ass too with a giant hammer>Tails is a weakling who needs to rely on airplanes and gadgets.>Amy is brute force while paradoxically being feminine.>If you put Tails to defend Sonic's kids then she runs and cowers>If you put Amy to defend Sonic's kids she smashes your head cracked open with a hammer. Amy knows what she wants and she goes for it.>Tails is an uwuu little bitch that can't even confess her love for Sonic at least once every episode. Do you want a weak Cosmo-like faggot or do you want true feminine strong woman that's not afraid to wear pink? Let Sonic decide!!>Tails and Sonic are just friends, forever will be. Sonails need to get over it. Maybe if she grew two feminine hammers instead of her tails then she'd have the courage to grab Sonic and kiss him like Amy does.>Sonails gets an episodeNONO NO AMYBROS AND SISTERS, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? REEEE *OBNOXIOUS REEING* SEGA BETRAYED USTailsfrens: I mean logically in hindsight it was obvious. I didn't even have to say you I told you so.>Sonamy gets an episode>Tails bros stay silentI FUCKING TOLD YOU SO AMYBROS, SONIC HAS A CRUSH ON AMY, BUT HE'S TOO T SUNDERE TO ADMIT IT, I TOLD YOU SO. SUCK ON YOUR OWN TAILS, FAGGOT.>Chris wins the Sonic bowl in the end.>Everyone stays silent.>What just happened?>Amyfags doing quantum entanglement calculations that Sonic offering a rose was an admission of love and not an apology and we definitely did not slurp Chris' sloppy seconds while waiting 2-6 months for Sonic to come back. Eggman was wrong, Sonic doesn't hate us or else he wouldn't have given us the rose. But why was he so silent? He's just stoic.>2005 Tailssisters: cool. >2026 Tailscels: *Screeching harder than Amy*
>>584641520Getting trolled by the very technology she depends on.
Same problem as Mimic.A character that struggles to really fit in the context of IDW because IDW and Sega are stricter compared to Archie days.
>>584643605>>584643110The same way cream didn't start an actual ship war.
>>584643110Tails would be exactly the same except the AUwives don't exist.What part of "Unbreakable Bond" don't you understand?
>>584643779>Maybe if she grew two feminine hammers instead of her tails then she'd have the courage to grab Sonic and kiss him like Amy does.
>>584643779Again if cream didn't start a shipping war or made anyone see her as a serious rival i don't see how tails with similiar age would.
Is humiliation a fetish? Can we add it to the list in Evan's weird little garden?
>>584642540I like how this implies Blackwood saw them as a couple and wanted them to be his servants.
>>584643861So Amyfags would accept defeat or have to purposefully be a bunch of secondary bitches that go with "muhhh love" and try to call friendship pathetic, which in return would make them look like the bunch of stalker perverts they are. I'm actually surprised ... fine not that surprised ...That Amy didn't bitch at Chris hogging all the Sonic for himself.You never see Amy and Chris get into fights except for that one time Amy instinctively admitted that Sonic cares more about his human friend than herself when Amy grabbed Chris and threatened to smash him with her hammer in the Japanese version. Amy is manipulative and desperate like that. Chris was also foolish enough to not choose his words carefully and not stay silent.
wtf am I read?
>>584644170Just your usual weeaboo bullshit.
>>584644120Uuuuuuh...isn't Godzilda another wrotter??
>>584644120Enf is a thing. So yeah.
Shadow is a literal jobber in games and that's canon. That's one of few things IDW got it right.
>>584644170(Me)This is why you don't post when you're tired.
We have evolved past the need for Sonic comics
>>584643948Cream isn't playable in Sonic 2 and doesn't feature in Adventures of Sonic.Cream is still younger looking and has less going on for her than Tails does.Sonic & Tails would be called old married couple by the fujos and older men would understand that Tails is cooler than Amy.If Sonic doesn't get shipped with his hedgehog sister from Underground then why would he be shipped with Amy The Rascal in CD?
We have evolved penis the need for Sonic cocks
>>584643525Fans have always done a better job to sell a concept than the official material
>>584643779I told you so: Amyfags would get MOGGED HARD and all their arguments would make them look more sexist than they already are. Amyfags would be on suicidewatch because nobody fucking liked Amy in Sonic X except for spics.
>>584644198It is, but I like to imagine Evan as extremely perverted and thinking about Sonic sex 24/7 so I'm deliberately going to ignore that information
>>584644296His youth is still appearent enough for Sontailsfags to get called out even by sonadowfujos.Because sonia is his actual sister while amy isn't? most of the sonamy shipping spawned from SA1 or Sonic x anyway, people didn't know about CD back then.
Just make the IP public. Not like SEGA itself is going to last much longer if they keep heading in the same direction they have been.
>>584643779>Tails loses to Chris.>2005 Tailssisters: cool.>2026 Tailscels: *Screeching harder than Amy*Trvth Nuke.
Not really a good thing. IMOI just feel bad for Silver. Just can't catch a break since 2006.
>>584644330Fans only know how to speak to other fans.The IP holder's job is to grab and retain the audience.
>>584644383What are you talking about?
>>584644573This didn't happen when Silver was full of wimsy.Uwuver>anything else
>>584644573I don't think any specific character is at fault for the state they're in. It's Sonic Team's fault.
>>584643779Amy is a screeching stalking womanchild that's 14, but behaves like she's 6. Her voice is also nails on chalkboard.Fuck that bitch, she's as bad as Millie from Kid Vs Kat.Who the hell wants that stupid fucking autistic bitch that screams, yells, threatens you with violence and cries like a little bitch when she doesn't get her way? Sounds like a pink nigger to me.
>>584643316I'm not sexist.
>>584644693Nobody likes the real Amy, and Amyfags lived inside their own Buble for too long and too much that they forgot that
>>584643779Amyfags from Adventure would be like-When was the last time Tails did an emotional speech that saved the day like Amy did with Gamma? Right. Never. But this is back in 99 when people hated emotional speeches so they'd shit all over Amy and declare Tails the winner by simply shutting up.Also I still find it weird how in Adventure and in Sonic 2 Tails has red lips, but Amy doesn't.
>>584643110I just need Amy to always love Sonic.
>>584644779Then you won't disagree with Amy wearing blue instead of pink or red, right?
>>584626460>Colors>good storyEven if you hate 06's story, what is there that Colors has over it?
>>584644739Sonic team didn't tell them to focus on a deer no one cares about or write a mindraep story in the first place, that's IDW staff's own agency.that being said yes, they screwed up in 06 but i didn't really see controversy around it besides people debating her origin in the past, IDW started more controversy around it.
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>>584644717Uwuver is when silvaze started to be more controversial actually with people thinking it's lame that the duo was just blaze being his babysitter
>>584644839I agree Sonamy shippers are more fans of the ship than Amy herself but I'll always be Amy first to the point I just want her feelings to always be worn on her sleeves no matter what Sonic ship the writer/artist is going for.
>>584644839I do. >>584644751She's cute and I like seeing fun interactions she has with other characters. >>584644891Tails doesn't have red lips in Adventure nor Sonic 2.
>>584645049Colors was mostly praised for what it didn't do than what it did. for people colors was a simple sonic and tails stopping eggman adventure while 06 was going far too high-concept for what they expected a sonic series to be. though since most people come from movies or sonic.exe unironically 06's story would be more liked by genz or genalphies.
>>584645006Blue looks good on her.
>>584645229You're Mexican and color blind. Go to bed already, it's late.
I like the idea of Blaze being the babysitter-guardian figure of a half-feral hedgehog from the future
>>584643779See? This man is funny.Why can't you autists be funny like this man? Why weren't you born with the imaginative sort of autism?
>>584643861>>584643110Amysissies status: MOGGED
>>584645463I was born with the type of autism that likes research and reverse engineering
>>584638591
>>584645417Me too. Blaze should gift Silver a muzzle, and Silver should wear it because he thinks it looks cool
>>584645251I rather have people that actually like when Sonic gets weird and off the walls than old ass farts who complain about Sonic not being a static formula
>>584645417I mean it is one of his themes that silver reverses aspects from sonic(like all other sonic analogues) where he's more of the person being teached or inspired than doing it himself but straight up uwuver makes it unserious than cool.
People saw the Diamond Cutters as the 2nd coming of the Freedom Fighters ergo they imagined Lanny as the Sally of the group. Being a hardass was the main factor.
>>584645374I am neither, you wanker.
I like Shadria
>>584645807Sonic is unironically a very ''themes and such'' series from the inception if you look at the japanese side. 06 still has flaws but i am actually seeing people's opinions on the story or even gameplay improving.
If Sonic was in love with you you wouldn't be able to outrun him. Hidden would be impossible and resistance futile.
There was also that youtube video that was pushing the "Lanny is the new Sally" narrative at the time. A lot of people saw her as that.
>>584645897LONDON
>>584643861Tails would be relatively the same, but other characters wouldn't.>Sega wouldn't feel the need to shoehorn Amy in games like Unleashed or Lost World>Amy herself wouldn't be pushed into the "core four" because there's already a girl, in fact there's a decent chance she gets mostly phased out as prime victim of the 'Sonic's stupid friends' phase, becoming spinoff-cast>Cream interacts much more with Tails than Amy>as mentioned, the shipping Tails gets in other media wouldn't exist (though I feel Cosmo would be mostly unscathed, recontextualized as a friendship but maybe with hint of yuribait) - you might get characters in some media commentating "hey Tails do you like Sonic in THAT way" and get "he's like..my big bro" in response
Project 06 and mods for Sonic 06 really did a lot to improve Silver's reception imo.Never saw anyone talking about Silver or 06 even slightly positive until forces.
>>584646062This guy is a massive Archie fag who thinks game Sonic isn't a real character
>>584644839Real Amy is fun, youthful and energeticnuAmy is a boring mother figure who has entered menopause
>>584646062>A lot of people saw her as that.Did they? Or was it just a few people with reach spreading their influence on an idea?
You know when people call game Silver a clone of Shadow by saying that being stoic is Shadow's thing? It's the same with Lanolin and Sally. The people who say that think only one character can have a particular mood
>>584646130We are too powerful
>>584645928I wish 06 themes was used in a more typical fun action adventure type Sonic story than the boring slog 06 was
>>584645552Westie...
>>584645647So you're saying Tom Wachowski is the new Sally
>>584646130Yes and now we have a good number fans who entertain 06 revisionism, in the sense that they actually believe it was a gem of a game held back by a few bugs and unfair critics.
>>584646121I think female Tails would be treated the same way the female cast in Scooby Doo is treated meaning no open love interest until some faggot 50 years later grabs the IP.
>>584645417Silver and Blaze
>>584646130He still existed in some fan sprite animations and deviantart art. i think what changed was the gen x or older milennial types being too old to care about talking sonic 7/24.p-06 is still being worked on but it probably won't receive the final release until late 2027
Sonailstards itt trying to slander Sonamy because of their stupid fetish ship. It's not our fault you're a bunch of psychopaths who want to fuck your own little brothers
>>584646186I really like Amy, but i usually just stick with windii's japanese translations cause shes more tolerable
06 was a good game that was unfairly panned by critics and held back by rushed a QA process.
>>584646524>picShadow and maria
>>584646721Shadow and *Rouge
>>584646572>>584646509It's really weird.the OG sonic06 will always be a quarterbaked ambitious game., but it's fan remake will probably be known for being the best sonic game.
>>584646816shadow does not love rouge
>>584646509That's because it did have merits like its story still handling characters better and being more interesting thematically than most of Unleashed and onward stuff, and same goes for things like how stage design is mostly good. Younger people just exaggerate these things and 06 still has many issues, but people do so because it was nigh impossible to discuss 06's merits in the past when many other Sonic games are also flawed and yet aren't considered sinful to discuss.
>>584646467Hey wouldn't even chart.>>584646285Given how small IDW's audience is, a "few people" is more than enough.
>>584646885Why does this list exclude Rebel, the one character who actually has a similar personality to Sally?Sonia has nothing in common with Sally apart from being a princess
>>584645887It's very funny how this team fell apart in the eyes of the fans and it was all Lanolin's fault.
>>584646864That's a very nuanced and fair take. I still tend to disagree about it's handling of the characters; I think they dropped the ball in a few areas there, not even counting the fact that Blaze was essentially recycled.
>>584646885If Sonia and fucking Elise are here, so should Rebel Rouge
https://discord.gg/jDbAHDm4ECLooking for Sonicbros to join this server.
>>584646972Because when you compare Sonia with Sonic and Manic, she comes out as Sally when the occasion needs someone to call Sonic out
>>584644120Has Shadow ever won a fight in IDW?
>>584646837Must get exhausting posting this every thread
>>584646972Being part of a group called "the Freedom Fighters" gives Sonia a significant boost. She also fills in as the voice of reason in some episodes i.e. Sally's job.
>>584647089Not too long ago. Sadly in a very boring arc
>>584647084Does calling Sonic out automatically make a character a Sally?>>584647179When was Sonia the voice of reason?
>>584647179Sonic is the voice of reason in underground. Sonia is a spoiled bitch. That clip of her ranting at Sonic isn't Sally like.
a shadrougefag made that chart
Prime Shadow is the new Sally
>>584647212The episode where Robotnik is hosting a race in order to lure Sonic...A premise that was recycled from SatAM.
>>584647279Why would A Shadougefag start calling everyone Sally
Knuckles was the first Sally
>>584647329But all thee siblings have moments telling each other off. Sonia is literally the least reasonable of the three.
Sally owns the concepts of being serious and arguing with Sonic. Sorry plebs.
>>584647390Knuckles has never been the voice of reason, he only gets mad at Sonic for messing with him, which is pretty gay
>>584647409The least reasonable thing is putting a variant of Rouge on a Sally chart. A Rouge variant would be on a Rouge chart.
If I had to compare Sonia to a canon character it would be Zeena. The only real difference is that Zeena is evil. Sonia will literally derail a mission because she doesn't want to ruin her skirt.
>>584647409That's why she is only 25% Sally
>>584647508The least reasonable thing is excluding any character for arbitrary reasons. Rebel Rouge should be up there
TRIPLETS BORN
>>584647551Sonia is evil. She hates poor people. She openly says she thinks they're just dirty ruffians. That's pretty evil.
>>584647685Stop trying to turn Rouge into Sally. That didn't work with Amy. It's not gonna work on Rouge either.
>>584646972Watch underground again. Or maybe don't, it's not good advice, but Sonia is always complaining about Sonic's behavior
>>584647818Rebel Rouge is fair game
>>584647508Okay but Rebel Rouge actually has similar characterization to Sally. Sonia doesn't. The only thing keeping Sonia there has nothing to do with her personality which is arguably more along the lines of Antoine than Sally. Sally doesn't merely "call Sonic out" She has an entirely different approach to things. Sonia does't have a specific approach to things. She gets mad at Sonic for going off script but that's not a consistent detail. The consistent thing for her is getting angry period. You might as well say Sonic is the new Sally since there are more instances of him having to correct his siblings' bad behavior in underground.
>>584647818Rebel doesn't act like Rouge. She's a girlboss who gets mad at recklessness>>584647860That's not a character trait on its own. The things she gets mad at aren't things Sally gets mad at. There's one or two times where it's comparable.
>known for attacking with kicks>vain, high maintenance and materialistic>romantic connection with knuckles>self-sufficient and known for planningThat's right, it's Sonia
>Include Sonia because she gets mad at Sonic>Exclude Rebel even though she gets mad at Sonic for the exact same reasons Sally gets mad at Sonic>rebel who is literally a rebel leader of a resistance and bosses everyone around Rebel and Sally probably have identical TV tropes pages
>>584646820Level design is genuinely good, its everything else that's bad.06 is also appearently getting a recompile
>>584647860I can think of two very good reasons to watch Underground.
>>584648000>known for planningSonia isn't any more of a planner than Sonic.
>>584648045>06 had good level designIs this a joke?
Sonic Underground will never be topped
I don't like these character comparisons, they are always forced. Sonia getting mad at Sonic is because she's a high strung girl from rich society. She doesn't like breaking routine for fun and games but she isn't dutiful or responsible. She's kind of pathetic. She's like Pacifica Northwest or Angelica Pickles. Her bossiness isn't the result of a sense of logic and reasoning being put against a loose cannon. The interaction is only similar on the surface. You can force any character comparison by talking about them like this. You can say Sally is like Buzz Lightyear if you just apply the basic skin of a character interaction.
>>584648037>TV tropes pages
>>584648335She has the role of Sally in underground like it or not
>>584648427Not really. Sally is the foil to Sonic who shows an opposite perspective of his. Sonia is more like a gag character who gets mad at both of the brothers and the humor around her is usually "Women, amiright?"Most of the time when she's mad, you are supposed to laugh at her for being so temperamental.
>>584648545Sonia is just proto-rouge
>>584648427If you put Sally and Sonia on the same team they would end up fighting because Sonia would refuse to stand too close to commoners for too long and need to be taught not to say that out loud
One of Sally's first lines was telling people not to call her a princess because everyone is an equal. Sonia on the other hand demands to be treated like a princess and can be manipulated just by doing this.
It's funny to me that a debate about sally and sonia runs more smoothly than any converstation involving amy and sally
TELL ME WHATTELL ME WHATTELL ME WHATTELL ME WHAT COULD SHE HAVE POSSIBLY SAID TO GET ROUGE TO BLUSH AND COULD THIS BE CANON?IS IT CANON THAT ROUGE BLUSHES?TELL ME WHAT WHAT WHAT COULD SHE HAVE POSSIBLY SAID?
Tails and Sonia dynamicdescribe it
>>584647015>in the eyes of the fansNot really, the team actually/literally fell apart and disbanded in the canon of the comic. The fans keep putting these characters together even when the comic doesn't want them together.
>>584648894There's no shipping involved
Rape shado
>>584649704Kissing Shadow until he bleeds for all the kisses I gave him
Rape Tails
>>584649846Punching Tails until his body goes numb for all the punches I gave him
>>584649453cute couple
>>584649453You don't even seem to like Surge and especially Kit, you just use Surge to bother fans of other characters. How come?
>>584650074He's an attentionwhore
>>584650074So you are attacking people for posting a ship you don't like. You don't even want to understand, bitch.
>>584650156Holy bestie seethe
>>584650368Be quiet attentionwhore
>>584650439What are you complaining about?
>>584650247Not what I said.
>>584650480You being an attentionwhore spammer
>>584650647All I did was post Surge
>>584648545>Sally is the foil to Sonic who shows an opposite perspective of his.Another thing Sonic Team blatantly stole from westchad cartoons.
>>584650674>I can cry about people for posting what they love but dont shit on my ship!!!Retarded attentionwhore
>>584650734Even metal or eggman were ''inversions'' having an inverse foil to your main character is too common of a trope to be stolen from anywhere
>>584650734Knuckles is sally?
sĆøyjaywiki's entry on /sthg/ is surprisingly accurate
>>584646379Silver isn't even stoic, him having a serious determined expression doesn't make him stoic. The whole deal with Silver is that he can't hold back his feelings and is often lashing out. He is always open about how feels in any situation which is the opposite from a stoic person which prefers to keep their true feelings close to their chestSonic is more of a stoic person than Silver
>>584648925I'm a boy!xD
>>584651096It's how you make strong effective characters by having them be able to play off the protagonist own traits
>>584653292>Sonic The Hedgehog USA
>>584653437But the tagline shpuld be Sonic Chaos
>>584652053I wish I didnāt read it
>Claim that anyone who participates in the weekly Whiteboard sessions is a part of a secret artist Discord cabal that doesn't actually care about /sthg/.
>>584653292Mario and Sonic both having Japan and America side of series create their own seperate second installments is oddly specific
>>584653996>Defending the whiteboardOne of those discordtroons wrote this entry
>Post lesbian fanart. There are hours of the day where the thread is completely dominated by fujoshis, so posting anything other than faggots is sure to rile them up, especially dykesThey know me so well
>"I caught a funny-looking fish!">Haha, yeah, ya caught me, Bigmeister...you can put me down now... Say, what do you do with all the other 'fish' you've caught?".........>*chomp!*^_^
>>584652053>>584653529What did it say?
>>584654906Anon's home address, education level, employment history... everything...
>>584655209>employment historyPerchance...
The most annoying part of being a JPscholar is actually the posers who try to (poorly) use Japanese info out of context to try and win internet arguments.Amy getting carried away when she is gaga over Sonic is in-character. She did it in SA1 with Twinkle Park.Tails was in disbelief at the idea that Sonic was dead in SA2. He saw him die but didnt wanna believe it. But he still saw it.He was basically on hopium copium.This is a symptom of the Aonic fandom's tendency to make up narratives to cover for false believes that are popular abput the series instead of just correcting them.No, GUN did not intentionally frame Sonic to cover Shadow. No, Shadow's being said to look like Aonic isn't the result of a last minute change from Terios design.People on the internet are just retarded and by making shit up to cover for it, you are validating their retardation.
>>584652053I made it onto a wiki bros. I made it.
>>584617838>uncompromisingNot true. They do it all the time as long as it aligns with status and power.>and loving freedomNo they don't. They love the idea of justifying whatever they do with the notion of freedom>and being direct and AWESOME.No. They expect you to tell you everything verbatim, unless they dont approve of it and you have to know in advance, and you are punished for keeping to yourself because they are barbarian tier combative, constantly trying to find opportunities to assert dominance over minor invobsequenctal shit.Sonic would find americans dumb but funny.
>>584656003Shadow looking similar to Sonic was always meant to be part of Shadow's character since the beginning. It's just with the original Terios design that was more convincing
>>584618995Not of it is true or real though. It's all excuses used to justify just being a psychotic asshole.People arent more real. Americans just treat being a decent person as fake and treat being an ignorant douche as real.
>>584619556No no, he is right.I'd hesitate to even call the LoonryTunes furries but if you have to draw the line somewhere, Mickey vs Bugs is where the line is drawn because Bugs is for all intents and purposes a furry while Mickey isn't.
>>584620272Rouge isn't even furry. She is arguably less furry than Sonic or Knuckles.
>>584620591No
>>584653996Six adorable titties in a row.
>>584646820P-06 is a downgrade.
>>584656558The cutoff is Robin Hood.
Isn't she the cutest thing you've ever seen, foids?
>>584618102Forces just sucks in general.No one matters except the Sonics and a random rookie has a strong enough bond with Sonic to achieve a superpowered state.
>xhe plays Sonic the hedgehog games for the story
How could you tell?
>>584657923All Sonic games have stories, they all create context to what you are doing and why
>>584626707This reminds me of an old fanfic on Sonic Heroes, where Metal Sonic turned into his liquid state, slipped inside Amy and expanded to his Neo Metal state inside her. Then he threw Tails into one of the Egg Carrier's jet turbines.
>>584658181I play Riders for the gameplay, I vaguely remember what happened in the story outside the slapstick moments.
>>584658276No you should play Riders because Sonic says cool awesome things like "even without wings I can still fly" which represents his spirit of the wind that's why the game is a masterpiece
>>584627137Isn't the Godzilla one human free (sans Eggman) too?
Todays baits are like a nail on a string, are you guys that lonely?
>>584658337No, thatās stupid. I unlocked Rouge and ignore the blue rat.
>>584658276Stories in games are meant to elivate the gameplay itself, it's not meant to just exist in it's own vacuum
You should play riders because my cool boyfriend is in it.
>>584658589Iām honestly not concerned with what theyāre āmeantā to do, buster.
>>584658661You don't need to care about the story but the story exist to contextualize what you are doing which many players appreciate
>>584658661Yeah no wonder you're a Sonic fan
>>584658790Good for them, Iām here to go fast and win races.
>>584656203Fuck you, tell me which one you are so I memoryhole your self-important attention-whoring ass, bitch.
>>584658819Rouge fan*
>One other unique feature about /sthg/ is it's sizeable foid population, so Crystal Cafe trolling tactics may also apply hereEveryone says that but I havent seen any /sthg/ tits yet
I like the gameplay, stories and other elements in Sonic games, but I think some of the games are better at some aspects than others. I like the writing in Adventure, but I prefer the portable games of that time for their gameplay.
>>584659010They're autistic losers not attention whores.
>>584659117>implying
>>584659010The boys post butts.
>>584656203>brosYOU ARE A WOMAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU HAVE MORE WHITE MATTER THAN GREY MATTER THAN A MANYOU HAVE AN UTERUS - A WOMB WITH SHEDDING WALLS EVERY MONTHTWO WHOLE OVARIES I WILL COOK IF YOU DON'T STOP PRETENDING YOU'RE A MANAN EXTENDING TRUNK FROM WHICH YOU PISS YOU WILL FOREVER BE A WOMAN YOU MAN-ENVIOUS BITCHSTOP BEING JEALOUS OF OUR DICKS AREN'T YOU ASHAMED OF YOURSELF EVEN A LITTLE?
>>584659229chill out
>>584659229Derangement
Can't hold on much longer...
Women come here. You need to deal with it.
>>584659559Let, go. Just... let go...
>>584659010I don't know why anons rather believe there are women in this general rather than just fags
>>584659559That's what you get for eating too much chilly Sonic
>>584659714colorful furry critter franchises always have women in its generals
>>584659714>List of current namefags that are women:Hotshelter (drawfag, sthg tried to chase her out)Krack (drawfag, sthg tried to chase her out)Maris (drawfag, sthg tried to chase her out)>List of past namefags that are women:AAR (drawfag, chased out)Geek (drawfag)Fuckwolfamy (drawfag, chased out)Jadii (drawfag, chased out)Kayla-na (drawfag, chased out)Metalyume (drawfag)Rapeficbitch (fanficfag)THP (drawfag)Soneggfag (unknown)
>>584624974
>>584659896Was alota not a woman
I don't care if you're a woman or a man, you're a fag either way
>>584660265No nigga
>>584660278All women are gay
>>584659229I don't envy women anymore >>584641923If women want to obsess about the dicks that have a real chance of being the ultimate cause of their deaths, they are free to do so. Life is too short anons
>>584660382Liking women is gay too all my straighties hitting it up in the sheets fr fr
Go femcels! Save my Sonic fanfic website!
Does the Sonic franchise have fans in China? Which character do you think looks tastiest to them?
>>584660690>84,000 dollars raisedThey're blowing smoke right?
>>584659896VIOLET isn't?!
>>584660764>fans in ChinaYes>Which character do you think looks tastiest to them?Anon.... they seem to like Mephiles and Amy
>>584661051Creamtranny is a creamtranny for a reason.
>>584659896>unknown
>>584661051He is a man
>>584660764Silvaze queen is Chinese
>>584661051well he has a dick so he isn't a woman....
>>584661385he has two X chromosomes so technically, no>>584661643all women have micropenises (clits) so this doesn't apply
>>584661051love how all the females have normal online names and the troon is "uwu I'm VIOLET i'm such a girlygirl teehee", kill trannies.
>>584661882he has a male intersex condition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome
>>584661935I thought Blaze said "at least you didn't burn your dick"
>>584661882Women have a vagina and a uterus so
>>584661204I want this but all of the Classic Sonic cast that disappeared in the Modern era, with Trip the modern Classicfag looking blissfully unaware.
>>584662105Some women are born without vagina and uterus and they have normal XX chromosomes
>>584662187Classic/Modern branding continues to be as autistic as usual
>>584662284He was born a man objectively, you ever listen to him speak, it's just some dude. He is not a woman and will never be a woman. Keep crying.
>>584662284lot of effort spent entertaining troon delusions here, you him?
Even if /sthg/ is presented with what trolls are using to bait you, they are still baited
>>584659079If you just want the traditional 2D Sonic gameplay then I don't blame you for liking the portable games moreSonic Adventure gameplay is decent for a first attempt at a true 3D Sonic game. Designing levels around multiple characters was also the right move, that's what Sonic 3K did. It just that only Tails and Knuckles acts as variations of Sonic gameplay. Meanwhile Amy, Gamma and Big just shows what kind of gameplay the Dreamcast was capable of, also Knuckles gameplay too an extent06 was the last 3D Sonic game that attempted this and it became the most worst notorious game ever so they completely scrapped everything despite design levels around multiple characters being the best structure for a 3D Sonic game
>>584663647Cream the Amy Parasite
How is being tied up and being totally subservient to one person feels like? Because I think Shadow likes it
>>584663751I do think that designing levels around multiple characters was interesting, but I think Adventure's level design is pretty undeveloped and there's too many instances of the solution being just to spindash/fly/haphazardly aim. I think Adventure 2's levels mostly improved on this, even if they aren't entirely to my taste.
>>584665025Final Rush is the best level from the Adventure games. It has platforming, fast paced platforming and multiple routes. Why they designed all the other levels to be so linear and then just went all out with Final Rush i'll never understand
Good morning my gangy
>>584662027Is violet actually intersex? mtf sometimes say this to feel more legit but actually aren't
Tails!
>>584648925>TELL ME WHAT COULD SHE HAVE POSSIBLY SAID TO GET ROUGE TO BLUSHFree shipping on all model kits from Premium Bandai
>>584666598Is the goat!
>>584656558There is no line to draw. Any animal that displays human actions is a furry character, whether you like it or not. Thatās quite literally the definition. Bugs Mickey and Sonic are all furry characters
Nice and cute boys should be loved and praised
>>584666598>>584666720The boyest
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>>584663751I think Amy and Gamma also count as closer to Sonic (maybe more than Knuckles, since they're point A to B levels unlike him), Big is the one big exceptionOther than that I agree though>>584665648I think it's because 3D was new and players would have found it confusing, so they reserved the more complex layouts for the final stages in both games, and especially the final main story stage. The very first stage they made for SA1 was a 3D recreation of Green Hill, but they scrapped it because they thought it wasn't fun. I wonder what that looked like, maybe they recycled it for the SA2 version>>584666720Yes!!!!!
>>584666903Fact!>>584667086Yep!>>584667097<3333333333333333
>>584667160>>584667086\(^-^)/
>>584667363Boys are the best ^-^
>>584667503Facts
>>584667343>>584667363Nothing here brings me more joy than Tailsposting with the bros :)
>>584667575:D
>>584667652Tailsposting soothes the soul
>>584667652Same, Tailsposting is amazing
>>584667816I hope this artist is doing alright
:)
>>584668002I saw the posts but I don't really understand what's happening. I hope so too though
>>584668265:P
Holy tailspedo spam
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>>584668708Nah
No video essay has ever been refuted in history.
>>584668804So cute
>>584668843What about video essays that refute each other?
>>584668908<3
:D
Remember anon's femboy oc? He was cute>>584669101Epic
>>584669276True, that's cute
>>584668708We run this mf
>>584669393Enough femininity I'll turn Tails into a hunk!!!!
Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
>>584669518lol :P>>584669646She should draw human boys instead
What is next for Tails
>>584669646I donāt care. Can she draw fox boys? Thatās all that matters
>>584669729She cannot draw human boys either.
>>584669518>PicGives me Soviet vibes
>>584669804Being one of the main playable characters in Kishimoto's next Generation 3 Open Zone game, with a story as long as Sonic's>>584669809That's sad
>>584656203Most of this bait is too obvious and yet we still have idiots falling for it all the time.
>>584669809Jesusā¦
>>584652053>>584656203So that's where those shitposts come from, huh...
>>584669945Great!
>>584669804Heās gonna finally lock in and be himself again
Tails and Amy are friends and do stuff together when they aren't around Sonic
Sonic 2!
IDW humans will look like this.
>>584644839I like Amy for Amy. The REAL Amy. There are a lot of Sonamyshippers who lost thr plot and care more about the ship than the characters, but even that is largely new and came up as a reaction to shipwar autism and Boomshit. There are still a lot of people that liked them better the way they were and lost interest when they ruined em, which is why the most loved moments with them are when Amy acts more like her 2000s selfAlso Amy looks good in all kinds of colors. Red just suits her best because its in-your-face, loud & proud like she is.
After playing both finalhazard and egg salamnader are similiar boss battles
>>584671624I like her eye shape being like what the artist drew there
>>584669646pain
>>584645049Colors is more inoffensive than anything. It gets the basics down: Sonic and Tails work to stop Eggman. I canāt really call that bad, just bland if anything. However it does put Tails on the sideline with that fuckass ipad, and makes Sonic a quippy jokester, thus why itās OOC. If you wanted to call it bad I couldnāt stop you, but I canāt see putting it on the same level of bad as LW or Forces
>>584645823Silver is a forced poochie
>>584672093you could play tic tac toe on that thing
>>584670910Too bad we canāt see it and it only matters in the context of talking to a stupid human kid
namy
>>584646162I wouldn't say he doesnt think game Sonic isn't a real character. But he is a massive Archie (Sally) fanboy.
>>584646121Amy would still exist and would still be pushed because she was made at the same time as Tails and would be a pink hedgehog whereas Tails is not.Nishiyama burried Amy behind 28 emeralds because young girls would always pick the pink hedgehog girl over his OC.
>>584672346There's that one TailsTube episode at leastThey should give them a proper adventure together
Hello fellow Tailsbros.
>Pedo spam again
>>584646509These fans always existed and always insisted on this. What is actually changed is more people are looking back at the reception 06 got and starting to reconsider how much of it was really deserved rather than astroturfed by the internet climate at the time.
>>584672986Pedo tranny. Even worse.
>>584672935Hi hi!
>>584647084Not really. The dynamic is usually her being spoiled and prissy.
One billion years of boy!
>>584673137True.
>>584644839>Shadowfags having the gall to accuse any other characterfags of not liking the ārealā version of their characterLmao we are LAFFING on a Friday ladies and gents
>>584672172True, but it was the early trend to make rival no#3253543543 that inverses aspect of sonic
>>584672935Henlo frendo
>>584673032Personally i think it's forced to call the game a hidden gem that was only disliked because of agendafagging but i think it's weird how people will want you to play the game on og hardware to allow you to simply say ''i liked the game'' but things like switch remake of the classics or unleashed recompiled that they won't bat an eye at.
>>584673284Pedos are ashamed of what they are when in normal societies, but tranny pedos are proud of being inhuman degenerates. They're the worst.
>>584643861>>584646121If Sonic interacted with a girl the way he does with Tails that girl's shippers would go crazy and see all of it as definitive proof that they're in love foreverFor Tails it's just everyday occurrence>>584673268Yay!
>>584673532It would still be called ''sibling coded'' by the fandom because girl tails will still be 8 and lack romantic implications. even shadow and maria who have more to it still get hit with that card. girl tails is a forced meme.
Gay!
>>584673472Agreed.
>>584672172No he's not Blazetard, he's unique character, Shitaze is forced because she's redundant
>>584673865He is as unnecessary as Blaze and her entire dimension
>>584672920I know. My gripe was with boc specifically
>>584673865>Silver>uniqueLmao ok Shadow pt 2 aka Sonic pt 3
>>584674018>bocFuck off, saurus scum.
>>584646509Yes, people who disagree with you exist, and always will. Your post is stupid, and while saying such retarded things about that game is unfortunately the norm, in this instance it is especially unfortunate because every other post in that conversation is unusually smart and nuanced.>>584673465I don't think agendafagging and online propaganda were the only reasons someone might have hated it, but they were certainly big factors. I know because I was affected by it myself. You are also correct about that not making sense. It's particularly crazy because people have accused me of liking the game only because I haven't played the original release, which is not only insane on its own, but also wrong, because the original is the only version I've played so far
>>584672829You're assigning blame to someone who might not even have been responsible for that design decision (Nishiyama), and doing so without considerign that Advance 2 did >Get all emeralds as X number of charactersFor all of its unlocks, including things like boss attack mode, or that Amy is unlocked before Cream in Advance 3. Advance 2 was Cream's debut game and her being unlocked early was to offer a beginner character while Amy was characterized by being harder to play as (including in Advance 2), that's about it.
GUN should betray Shadow and use him as a living battery
>>584673997He's the time traveler and the psychic character, these elements are very constructive in any fantasy, Blaze being another Sonic, a guardian, a princess and a fire user is very unnecessary since she can't be applied to stories without solely focusing on her and we already have better characters that fill these roles
>>584673665The word you're looking for is cope. That's all that "sibling coded" bullshit is>>584674018Yeah I know I know, I agree with you. I hope Tails gets to do more in BoC
>>584674161I'd like to hear why you like '06, not trying to argue with you, just curious.
>>584674161I mean p-06 shouldn't be used to judge the game, but i think someone can emulate it and tell others that they liked it genuinely.and yea, i'd say that the game was technically bad, but it was majorly overexeggrated because classicboomers who disliked things like multiple play styles, shadow, edgier or more sentimental stories, 3d gameplay etc. could pretend they were intristically bad and look more credible for doing so because the game was more unfinished than sa1 or sa2 was.
>>584674135>Shadow part2>Ignores Espio and Blaze, who have near 100% common traits to Shadow, while Silver is the furthest one from himYou Blazefags retardation knows no bounds
Satam is ooc
>>584648164That's not even a controversial take. Even 06 Mega reviews like SCMJs and Clementj64s complementing the level design.
>>584674584Espio and Blaze are both derivative too
>>584674445>He's the time travelerNot needed>the psychicThe only worthwhile thing about him>another Sonic, a guardianThese things also apply to Silver, which is not needed
>>584674135>Time traveler>psychic>open>blunt>immature>hopeful>cheery >social>loudThese are not Shadow traits at all retard, you saw a hedgehog and immediately thought of Shadow shows how much of a nut brain you are, you suspiciously have Blazefags traits...
>>584674807Shadow is also blunt
>>584674694Yeah, that's one of the things people consistently say is good, even haters. Not sure why that anon is confused.
>>584674783>These things also apply to Silver,They're not which is his real deal, he's never made automatically to match Sonic or to be guardian, he worked and developed to get at that level, while Blaze got handed that with no real reason but to be "interesting"
>>584672540>ććććTrue.
>>584674807Newsflash stupid, having all the opposite traits as Shadow means heās based on Shadow. He is Light Sonic and Shadow is Dark Sonic, opposites of the same coin thatās only based on āmuh themesā that were executed like shit in the only game that mattered for them. We never needed Silver to appear at all ever again after 06, same with Blaze
>>584674879He's not, he doesn't admit his feelings or show his real emotions at all
>>584675145Blaze has more appeal than Silver
>>584675145Well other news flash retard, that doesn't make him another Shadow, else everyone will be just another Sonic.>>584675258Porn wise.
>>584675258Not really. They should both appeal to the vault only
>>584675185I can tell you're one of those fake Shadowfags that thinks Shadow has friends and is somehow secretly a benevolent soft boy who loves humanity.
Classic games are dogshit
Quok
>>584673865>he's unique character
>>584675343>Not really.Spoken like a SHITverfag
>>584675258Not really, they are both sorta redundant but blaze is largely astroturfed and not actually more popular than silver. also people who aren't blazefams enjoy her character more than her fans do at this point.
>>584675324A lot of characters are another Sonic in some way
>>584675365I can tell that you're Blazefag who trying very hard to fit in and try to one up Silver to no avail while everyone will be very happy with you and her redundant ass gone.
>>584675493>and not actually more popular than silver.>this cope again
Shitverfags are getting uppity again, I see
>>584675470I hate Silver even more lmao
>>584674547The number 1 thing I like is the stages level design and gameplay. I don't like everything about them, there are some parts I don't like, mostly depending on the character you play as. I don't like Amy's gameplay, for instance. I also had to get used to avoiding certain glitches, but that was quick overall and not a big deaĆ² once I got past it. I could go into detail, but generally, I like Sonic's stages, and find Silver's to be okay. Sonic's stages are fun and well designed, and he has a good moveset. Playing as Tails is fun too. I also like Omega and Blaze. My main issue with the stages is the excessive forced combat, which is a problem I also have with the rest of that era. Sonic's stages (including the hard mode versions) are fun to play, especially going for S ranks. I like the Amigo DLC as well. I also like the story/narrative, it is cool and intriguing. Sonic and Shadow's are pretty good, Silver's feels even more underbaked than the rest of the game unfortunately.>>584674551Yeah I agree
>>584675258Silver has more appeal than Blaze but is just as purposefully contradictory in his place. The future serves nothing but him. I'd even say it's worse than Blaze's dimension because it tries to force it's importance while having nothing of value in it. Silver constantly appearing devalues himself, the future, the present, and Sonic's friends
>>584675185He usually tell Sonic to fuck off and barely explain anything to Sonic, but I don't think that doesn't mean he isn't blunt because he isn't laying, he just tells Sonic it's none of his business, which is being blunt >>584675656Silver just wanted to win without using his super
>>584675656They always do when Blaze is mentioned because they KNOW that given the choice, most people like Blaze and would rather play as her than SHITver.
>>584675620blazefags complained about her interacting with silver and what did soa do? remove blaze from merch while promoting more silver merch.
Who do you think was the handsome fox fella Tails fucked to death? and what do you virgins think the tower position means? https://www.deviantart.com/sonicprimearena/art/Sonic-Tails-comic-Goofy-meme-1354260019
>>584673865>unique characterhe's literally Trunks but hedgehog (and worse)
>>584675872>>584675872>>584675872
>>584675754Not true, it's like one silverfag doing it because he's traumatized by shipdrama, majority of silverfags don't actually care.
>>584675439>Blazefag disguising as a Shadowfag He is unique, trying to disregard that will make you a mockery out of your character gooner Knux.
>banned for Lanolin picWho is reporting it even
>>584675982>Silverfag disguising as a Shadowfag
Is it general just a falseflaggin playground
>>584653084Male Amy
>>584656342I don't agree that it does and find it annoying people think so. Motherfucker has Broly eyes and grey skin and a scar on his eye
>>584665648Because 3D was new and players struggled to even navigate Green Forest without dying back in the day.Crazy Gadget alone was a road block for a lot of people.
>>584667160>The very first stage they made for SA1 was a 3D recreation of Green Hill, but they scrapped it because they thought it wasn't fun. I wonder what that looked like, maybe they recycled it for the SA2 versionI think youre on to something. That actually is probably exactly what it was.>>584666774Why are furshitters so insecure about useful distinctions?
>>584673350Silver does no such thing.>>584673465I don't think it's a gem, but as someone eho lived through and participated in trashing it and never played p06, I think the assesment that it was unfairly overrated is correct and that people care more about defending the narrative against it more than anything. But thats a lot of things in general.
>>584673865Blaze is also a poochie. Doesn't mean Silver wasn't. He just failed.
>>584674161>It's particularly crazy because people have accused me of liking the game only because I haven't played the original release, which is not only insane on its own, but also wrong, because the original is the only version I've played so farSame. People just make up excuses to defend the narrative around the game because they are emotionally invested in making the shitting on it we did sacred.
>>584674363>You're assigning blame to someone who might not even have been responsible for that design decision (Nishiyama), and doing so without considerign that Advance 2 didCopium.>>584674363>For all of its unlocks, including things like boss attack mode, Why is Amy the literal last unlock? Why is she an unlock at all instead in the game?>or that Amy is unlocked before Cream in Advance 3.Amy is listed last in the game and in the intro.>Amy was characterized by being harder to play as (including in Advance 2), No she wasn't.
>>584674445>He's the time traveler and the psychic characterHim being a third gedheog with chaos Control and superform is 90% of the reason his fans think they should care about him.
>>584674807>>open>>blunt>>immature>>hopeful>>cheery>>social>>loudMale Amy
>>584680120>as reward for being super duper good at this game you get to play as womangreat reward fuckers i wanna play as eggman
>>584675258Yes, but she is also less appealing in the shallow way Silver is despite being more of a poochie than he is.
>>584675656ZAVOKCHAD!!!!
>>584675714You're trying too hard, Blazexel.Silver's Future matters because its thr future of Sonic's world. Ofc i care about it.Blaze's dimension is parasitic by comparison. Literally even since thats the whole conflict in Rush.
