>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.Thread Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq3QYTC_lJw [Open]>Previous Thread >>584696030
He won.
Join <FUN HAVERS> at launchALLIANCE NA **PVE**>literal who gm (no cliques or power trips)>only rule is you must have fun or else>will raid with fucking whatever / whenever>ill be running morning weekend raidsif you want a dead discord until nov 4thhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w
Chuds won
>>584716276i thought this was a picture of deodorant/hair products at first
Dragalia.....Lost
Skelfs won
Apologize for ever doubting him.
>>584716547>WoW players>deodorant
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-stress-test-october-21/2383617/39Stress test changed.
>>584716618WIDE LOADHUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPO KIRBY
>>584716726why wouldnt they do the stress test on a weekend when theres actually people to test the stress
>>584716601Ally skelf is playable but horde is still doodoo
Alexensual runs this general.
>>584716726>>584716815stop noticing
>>584716815because they are commiefornians living on the west coast who don't believe in working hard or coming in on the weekend to make sure the servers don't explode.
>>584716726WHAT THE FUCK
>>584716843>doubled regeneration that doesn't factor in spiritThat racial is also cucked
>>584716843I will still be a horde skelf druid to join my orc bros in jumping off cliffs to engage in mid-air charges on our enemies.
>>584716843Nuh uh
Soon Brothers
after 2 weeks of careful consideration i've decided i'm just gonna play hunter and shoot every red thing that enters my fov
>>584717050godspeed soldier
Can I cast instant spells in goblin glider, or does that cancel it? I know the skelf racial you can just freecast. Makes a difference in choosing between tauren or elf...>>584716970speaking of
>>584717042now im going to be forced to have that in my bag for when i resurrect people
>The new mounts had SD modelsThey really are winging it and just listening to chuds when we chimpout lmao
>>584716998soon what?
>>584717042>>584717134Ugghhhhh im progressing horizontally ohhhHhHh my g*dd
>>584717050Me too. If people think getting a raid invite will be difficult at launch, they should consider what it will be like when you are weeks behind.
>>584717198best case scenario honestly, keep em in line chimp out chads
>>584716815in conflicts with streamers schedule
What anime should I watch? Chud animes only please.
>>584717198The Age of the Chud has begun
The SD/HD debate is a red herring shilled by Blizzard themselves to distract from the real issue.I don't give a fuck about fidelity. I give a fuck about the current jeet animators trying to pad their portfolio with stuff they'll think will play well with their faggot dream job animation studio.
>>584717327bobobo
Is there an NA /vg/ guild for PvP yet?
>Xaryu leading multiple wpvp raids on Hillsbrad>gets his shit kicked in several times >has to have 4-5 healbots on him the whole time
>>584717327non non biyori
>>584717204Soon we'll split Orc Skulls on Forever
I'm not a big fan of the paladins
>>584717042sovl
>>584717198it's obvious they were meant for forever and they backpeddledanyone going "oh see they were never intended, you chuds had a melty over nothing lol" is either being disingenuous or is actually retarded
>>584717436Is that happening now? I wouldn't mind getting in an aimed shot on his ass
>>584717327Bible Black>>584717383>implying the Age of the Chud ever endedWe've been in the Age of the Chud for at least the last 2026 years my brother in Christ
>>584716726
>alliance are now gods of both pve and pvpGuess I gotta roll with the troons...
>>584717495I'm still undecided between Tauren or Dwarf shaman. I wish they'd finally let us play wildhammer dwarves.
give me one reason why I shouldn't play gnome rogue with the SD rapeface
>>584717652>alliance racials are now gods of both pve and pvpftfy. Alliance players remain braindead.
>>584717547I just left the battle 10-ish minutes ago. Might still be going. But good luck because he's a giant pussy and has a shit load of healers on him constantly
>>584717682Perhaps this helps you make the right decision
>>584717739All the trannies are going alliance
>>584716998>>584717495cool art
>CotL hotfixed back to 60% in under 24hWell suck my dick and call me a faggot. They DO listen.
>>584717794Hey at least they have way more healers than horde faggots ever do. Join a BG as horde it's all hunters and enh shamans
>Salvation now stacks with other blessingsSo Paladins are just innately 30% better at holding aggro than other tanks? That seems like an annoying way to go about it compared to just increasing their aggro stance thing.
>>584717832
>>584716276Nice, blizzard is finally listening
>>584717921Now fix Light's Vigil Aggrend
>>584717815>im-fucking-plying Wildhammer dwarves have even a tenth of the aura of a Slayer
>>584717951Any tank with a paladin in group is just 30% better. Regardless of that Paladin's role.
>>584718000another legendary questline for a hunter weapon
>>584717951They kinda needed it. Their aggro sucks especially on single target but yeah having to put salv on everyone in the raid sounds lame.
>>584717832As long as asmon is on alliance, that won't happen
>>584716669Should be gnome onlyOr, if you're a gnome, the slow is increased to 40%
>>584717970If you think trannies are going to subject themselves to the horde foid models over the alliance you are retarded. They may hate transmongroid but they won't willingly choose ugly women models over the cute ones.
HOLY SHIT TURN ON CNN THEY ANNOUNCED GOBLINS
>>584717652I hope they form a habbit of revamping racials.Would love to read the sad, friendless, meta-nigger melties as they are fleeced paying for faction transfers
>>584718101I suppose thats a good way of looking at it. I didnt think paladins needed even 'more' utility though.
So does anyone here actually intend to play the game or are we all just shitposting?
>druid tank>warlock>holy paladin>thorns>fire shield>ret aura>swipe>free threatwarriors in absolute shambles rn
>>584718139Leftists want to import mudhutters not live among them and become one of them.Stormwind will remain Troontown. Forever.
>>584718168Why do you think they added skyborne?
>>584718196most of us are just waiting for epoch reborn
>>584717134That will definitely be something you see during raid wipe recovery.
>>584718009>a slayerto be fair most slayer style is carried by Gotrek, the slayer king, and a few othersmost of them will just run at some monster then fucking die
>>584718240prot warrior is insanely strong right now, all that other shit does not even compare
>>584718272Fuck I forgot about troonborne
>>584717832No one tell him...
>>584718196I will, but at this point only because real life friends are playing it
>>584717121Unless changed in Forever, you can use instant casts, but not channels / abilities that require a set position, without breaking the goblin glider buff.
>blud think anyone is playing holy paladin
>>584718168Good thing they made Skelves for those people :^)
>>584718184The only difference is it doesn't overwrite kings/might/wis anymore you dumb cuck. Blessing of Salvation always existed and you always made sure it was up in a raid environment.
Sucks seeing races lose the flavorful weapon specializations. Maybe they could replace them with a zone specialization that gives bonus movement speed and health/mana regen in certain outdoor areas?Forests for nelves, plains for tauren, deserts for orcs, cities and strongholds for humans and so on.
>blud doesn't know my buddy who has played holy paladin since tbc plans to continue playing his otp
>>584717042S-Surely they're not wasting Whitemane in a random leveling dungeon this time right bros- They gotta know how popular she is.
Tank BVLL post, non-tanks ignore, this isn't about you cucks or sissies.Post >>>YFW pinky sissy keeps getting gaped and raped.
>>584718512Yeah thats called a tradeoff. Power for utility.
>>584718601How did smite priest supposedly get more dps?
>dps sissy starts getting uppity>revoke their salv and kill their parseu gonna learn
>>584718852
>Please note that we will do the Stress Test on October 21, not two days earlier as previously stated.One more change that happened because people cried about it
>>584718879*vanishes*clean it up janny
>>584718629Weak to anal
>>584718139he's rolling pve, totally irrelevant on launch
Reminder that all clothcucks are trannies because they wear dresses.>ITS NOT A DRESS CHUD ITS A ROBE!!!!!whatever you say clothcuck tranny
>>584718879If im ripping off the tank its the tank who is gonna get admonished by my guild not me
EVERY racial should have a negative component to it.Blood fury reduces healing taken. War stomp hits allies. Wotf increases all holy damage taken. Stoneform also purges hots. Every man for himself forcibly removes you from the group. Eureka causes you to /yell your last whisper
>>584719120>War stomp hits alliesI would grief so fucking hard with this.
>>584719120>War stomp hits allies.i would play a cow for the first time in 20 years for this
>>584718240>*Light up chuddy ciggy*>Charge into pack of ELITES->Instant switch to defensive>"SIEG HEIL!" *demoshout+Tclap*>Dodge, parry, block, infinite rage>*1k REVENGE* cratering a tranny>KKKLEAVE these troons alive>Topping the meters except damage taken (I take NO damage)>Link DPS meter, with me at the top, as this is KKKALSSIK instead retoilet>"Say thanks to daddy, faggots, VVARRIOR PRIDE VVORLD VIDE" /romansalute>Pinky cuck healsissy "Erm, oh my SCIENCE! Warbvll Aryansson you can't s-">**BANG!!!** Shield Bash right against that sissy faggot groin, rapturing his micro testies and crushing his nano cock>"Don't talk to me, sissy freak">*Put off ciggy on the party ashtray (pissyellow eyesocket LOOTBANNED btw)*>"Yep, another day, another victory for uncle Adolf">*Take out chud ciggy*>"Put up that WF totem, shitman"->Battle Stance
>>584718927>drop penance>gain more dpsPenance buff when?
you think druids ever go bear or cat form then decide to "get lost" in ashenvale?
>>584672434Does this general house the LEAST self aware people in this entire site or something?Shit almost reads like parody
>>584719347Vanilla was more balanced than what Forever has already become
>>584719275>bull charge racial that stuns everyone in between you and your targetoops sorry guys haha i hope you weren't casting anything important
>>584719120They'll do this in Season of Suffering which will be set up as a sadistic old school style mmo>Every race has negatives to worry about>Exp loss on death, can even lose levels>Gear is destroyed at 0 durability
>>584719384I think there's more than one bot that just reposts shit from reddit or the wow forums, maybe even combines different posts because some posts I read are completely nonsensical
>>584719493trvke honestly
>>584719556This will only happen after players finally realize Faggrend must go and execute him.
>>584719493
>>584719556I would play the fuck out of that in the case that it wasn't also a gay hardcore mode that completely flies in the face of MMO class design, in the same way that adding right turns to NASCAR would fly in the face of redneck sport design which it would be
y'all are too young to remember but vanilla WoW was always shat on for looking like a disney cartoon for babies by the chads playing dark age of camelot and everquest
>>584719120>Eureka causes you to /yell your last whisperGNOMEBROS QUICK CLEAR YOUR CHATLOGS
>>584719347>Censoring his nameCuck
>>584719556I wish. They would walk it back the moment somebody complains on reddit.
>>584719550>WoTF fears allies around you when used if they aren't undead>During night time, if NElves stop moving, they go invisible dropping all threat
when are they adding body type 3
>>584719120>Eureka causes you to /yell your last whisperoh that's good
>new mounts discovered in new beta build>wtf is this.jpg>blizz blue post immediately: these new files aren't for WoW Foreverso why were they in the WoW Forever files if they aren't for WoW Forever?is blizzard just lying?
>>584719727I don't want you fags to steal it on name res day.
>>584719493t. Woryer
>>584719643Dudes probably gonna pull a Ben Brode and quit soon. Forever was clearly his swan song.
forever is now on the normal WoW logo
>>584719841newfriend... is this your first classic build?
>>584719810New datamined assets indicate that body type 3 is some sort of giant humanoid octopus.
how do i join ALEX layer
>>584719810CHAIR CRUSHERYOKOZUNAPART BUS
>>584719872browns being the only viable tank is one of the bigger problems with vanilla balance, yesfury being overtuned doesn't matter outside of fake parsefag competitions and naxx (when the game is already over)
>>584719347>its harder so its worsedo Alliance sissies really??
>>584719120>War stomp hits allies.>bros capping base>down to the wire>allies about to spawn>stomp.jpg
>>584720083Refund the game
>blizz doing damage control on the forums on a saturday morning
Is this the raid spec for shadow priests?
>>584719879"Swan song"No he is trying his cutest best to make a good game, and he made worse sod.He is, 100% getting fired if WoWF doesn't hit 2m-3m players steady for a year.
>>584719785Undead racial should be only knowing how to talk in common, and jawless undeads not being able to talk at all.
>>584720349I wonder how many refund requests they got kek
so glad im ditching this flaming pile of farts and going back to aq worlds
>>584720349>saturday morningAussie cunt
>>584720385Drop -threat for reach + max plague.
>>584720467Also being hit hard enough, can make you lose your jaw or other limbs.With all that implies.
>>584719810whats crazy is that I actually look like that
>>584720385No, you've made a few key mistakes in your talent composition. Pic related is much closer to the spec you'll be using in raids as a shadow priest.
The state of shamans and them now getting nerfed is genuinely making me reconsider playing one. I might just go mage instead
Long Ear Character Roster;-Sky Elf Male Arcane Mage ( Engineering and Enchanting ) -Sky Elf Male Balance Druid ( Enchanting and Herbalism )-Night Elf Male Resto && Bear Druid ( Alchemy and Herbalism )-Night Elf Male Cat Druid ( Leatherworking and Skinning )Horde:Troll Male Survival Hunter ( Leatherworking and Skinning )
>>584720385>>584720527And probably dump one from imp mind blast + one from SWD +crit for twilight focus in holy. You need the pushback resist.
WoW Forever: Refunded
Is fury still good? I haven't been paying attention to the patch notes
I actually kinda liked weapon racials even if they were useless for some classes. Feels wrong being an orc and not having anything related to axes
Alliance would never
>>584712117nta but here's the linklooks like it hasn't been updated in a while thohttps://mega.nz/folder/VqIARLLL#kpOC8ed3NG47e8oqjR7sZw
>>584716618the real trvke is that aggrend and his pals are real classic chuds but the higher ups are kikes who want to flood the game with gay shit
>>584720935I would love to see this but I got layered to an empty layer except for a skyborne and tauren probably erping
>>584720705The only viable shaman spec is resto, so if you don't like healing, I'd just switch off.
>>584721038are you a bot?
>>584721038Forever is Blizzard's revenge against California for coming up with a bunch of bullshit to pressure them into firing leadership.
there is nothing to do in this game once you level up and get your gear
>>584719939proof that retail eos is incomingchuds won
Chances of them adding JC down the line?For Rings/Amulet crafting? Trinkets maybe?
Wow would be better if it had more sandboxing classes you could autistically dedicate yourself to. Like merchant who can open up a shop anywhere, Ragnarok style. But only after reaching a certain level while being complete dogshit in combat and receiving only 10% xp from quests or some shit
>>584720349Hows the weather in philippines pagbro?
>>584721182Yet they still managed to put a troon race in and turned one of the human male npcs to a human for heccin lesbianrino quests. They also still have Afrasiabi erased from everything
Which female druid can I play without people assuming im trans?
>>584721160nah, i'm a chuddy tooncel
>Varian's alive>Whitemane isn't a DK>Cairne's alive>Garrosh is alive>Kael isn't retarded yet>Vashj is alive>Maiev is still racist>/OURGUY/ Arthas is undead>Sylvanas isn't ruinedYeah... I'm thinking we're back
damn i love elves
>hordesissies still crashing out everywhere that their OP racials finally got balanced
So is Blizzard's MO solely just "nerf the shit out of everything even remotely good" at this point?
>>584721369Those damn heccin humans. (I know what you're referring to, though)
>>584721038trvke>>584721182close, Forever is Microsoft/Blizzard's soft relaunch of the game to try and salvage it from the ten years of rape it suffered at the hands of Fr*nch kikes. But if they let that secret go too public too soon, their unionized trannigger artists/support staff will run to their masters like good little goys to cry racism and shut it all down.
lmao
>>584719810That's body type 8
>>584721498Whitemane WILL be worgen'd in Forever.
>>584719347I'm 100% fine with Salv being a non-exclusive blessing now, it was gay that you pretty much had to Salv the entire party instead of giving them what they really want (Wis or Might)
>>584721516needs a cage on her clitty
>>584721723the great wide white of wow
Just bought and refunded Forever 10 times to make Blizzard lose money on the shipping and restocking fees.
>>584721707>what wtfrick how come I have to choose between survivability or damage when I'm undergeared? This isn't hecking wholesome reddit chungusThe penalty for not being skilled enough to survive without salvation is the point, retard.
>Of course I only play on PvE servers, how did you know?
>>584721757stop doing that
>>584721723needs a cage on that clitty
>>584721038t. Didn't play SoDort. Aggrend
Which race/class combo gives the best SLURPS?
Dr.Weavil requires 15-25 people to defeat.The fight is similar to Chromaggus.If you get low on HP you should hide behind a wall and bandage.Dr.Weavil hits for about 1000-2000 damage on plate, he should be tanking in a corner in the house.He MC's random people around every 15 second, the MC'd player needs to be polymorph'd asap.The Mind Control effect is Non dispellable.Dr.Weavil got one AoE ability. It does around 1000 damage, and stuns for 2 sec. You can avoid being hit by the AoE if you hide behind a wall (Healers should try to find a nice spot to avoid the AoE damage)He isn't a very hard boss, and should be easy to defeat with a nice balanced group with around 20 people.Good luck.
>>584721870Cry about it faggot.
>>584722008Femsaken Paladin
>>584722008femtroll priest
>>584722114>le heccin uno reversealright buddy
>>584722008Troll Priest (Female)
>>584721870the self report is brvtal kekyPOW
>>584720385should have 2/2 plague and 2/2 rangei'd probably also drop some mind blast cd for pushback resistance. mind flay should be almost as good dps as mind blast now anyway.
How to ruin your game in thirty days
>>584719081he might be on both
>>584721038>>584721182https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mu0IIB12SQ
POCHIE
>>584717327Yosuga no Sora, it's a good show if you have a family to watch with, too
>>584722316This happened before Blizz was sold to Microsoft btw. If you can't connect the dots, there's nothing I can do for you.>>584721553>>584721553So true the disinfo shills are ignoring it
>>584722202Don't tell him, it's cute to see retards who can't read salv lmao
>>584722239Range I suppose is because the improved mind flay talent no longer gives range but why bother with the second point in plague? Is the mana cost really that bad?
>>584722316I miss the 2 dwarves joke the troll males had
>>584717042
>>584722202>>584722474>I have nothing to argue with>so I'll just pretend he's wrong and heeheehaha at him insteadlmao you nubs sure are self reporting lol embarassing lil gups xD
Caked up Vashj as a neutral NPC to compete with Whitemane.
>>584717327Boku no Pico
>>584722272>Erm it's a beta, you don't even know if it's gonna be shit we can only play until level 30 dood! Just deepthroat this giant turd clusterfuck like everyone else! Aggrend said they were gonna fix that in the future so just be happy they're giving you anything at all!
>>584722637lil gup can't read~it's okay lil gup you can have might, you'll never be threat capped, now post your stinky brown parse for the class to see <3
>>584722745Anduin should have kept his hatMaybe a warmer head would help him turn out better in this timeline
Alex won
>>584722745give anduin his little jew cap back
>>584722610pubes status?
If Horde always has a healer shortage why do they always win in BGs? Is alli that bad
>>584722929healsissies don't play pvp
>>584722929Higher quality healers
>>584722929Alliance famously REFUSES to heal anyone in BGs.
>>584722948what's the point of a cow if it's hairless?
>>584722929bugged battleground maps that allow exploits that favor horde, but have been fixed in forever
>>584722948so bad, looks nothing like a tauren and the hands are wrong still. standardless jeet
>>584723126>bugged battleground maps that allow exploits that favor hordeSuch as?
>>584722853The only head-warmers Forever!Anduin needs is Onyxia's tits.
They're not gonna leave holy paladin in this state before launch, right?
>>584716276I still can't believe they're developing two versions of worlo side by side.
>>584722929were good at zugzug
>>584723280pixel jumps, and out of bounds flag holding
>>584721038Aggrend is a total pushover yes man that will follow any order just so that he can maintain a comfy life with no obstacles.
>>584723324Bro, Forever doesn't just mean infinite horizontal progression, it also means infinite class adjustments. Prepare yourself for the sweet life of Content Patch -> Class Update Patch -> Content Patch -> Class Update Patch -> repeat. Forever.
NO CHANGES
>>584722897lasered off or else she gets them stuck in her clitty cage
asmon pulled boss and half raid layered out
>>584723324brother we're getting an alpha quality build on launchyour favorite class will swing from wildly overpowered to unplayable about 3 times before settling down right next to grudgingly viable
>>584721272What about getting exp from selling stuff?
>>584720952I wanna fuck this guys slutty nelf wife so much
>>584723430He's a snide little middle manager two faced faggot and you can tell his only job is to keep the community from completely imploding. Mostly by appeal-to-streamer.
talk about adding in invisible walls
>>584721210RPRP-PVPRP-PVEPVPPVEExperimenting with Buildsand making alts.
Add a bunch of retail features that drives the community awayWonder how such an amazing game could have diedIt's the same mentality as the ritual posters, they're probably the devs and don't realize no one wants to see their slop lol
>>584723696>all of this just to stop horde from being cheating faggots
What am I supposed to do until nov 4th?Also my apartment is covered in cat vomit, litter, and piss, trash and dish mountains in every room, and cat poop trashbags weighing 100lb, and I have covid, but the fever has come down at least
>>584723505They meant "no changes made by straight white men"
>>584723696You can't jump off the 2nd floor now?
>>584722590well it also increases the jump range.but i'm not sure about mana, devouring plague costs a ton but shadowform also halves costs and meditation was buffed so much. so it's possible the mana part is irrelevant. i guess it also depends on spell haste. if you're blue elf (or have spell haste from some other new source) then you need 5/5 imp mb to cast mb-mf-mf-mb
>>584723920Have you considered cleaning your apartment?
Any pointers on a shadow leveling build? Wand talent first seems like a no brainer but after that, I was thinking something like this
>>584723920You should jerk off to big fat Jaina titties>>584723921post em bare you fucking coward
>>584723921green pov
Sorry bros, I won't be able to join you for the wow forever launch, since I'll be busy in swtor 8.0 launch at that time.
>>584721038>aggrend and his palsforever wouldn't even exist if it wasnt for Chudston Stone so of aggrend falls in line
>>584724069me too bro
>>584724069redpill me on 8.0i havent played past the class stories
>>584721575for anyone that did it a week ago, does refunding remove beta access?
>>584716276Why aren't you changing the thread theme?
>>584723939you can still drop from roof to the flag room like normal you cant just get out the whole base or jump to safe spots
>>584724287Ah okay
>>584723921>>584724052>>584724068trannies
bring back being able to mod your client side map files to create an underground tunnel between the flag rooms
>>584724242yes it wont let you login to the beta
>>584724391that never went away though
>>584724391>>584724470fake news
>>584724391Alleytroons are getting desperate I see.
>>584722316I don't know if these are removed in Forever or even classic, the gnome male jokes are still there.
>>584724069SWTOR is still going? I remember enjoying it for the year I played back in 2013. Is it good?
Homogenized racial nerfs, when everyone wanted better combat racials to activate BRAVO BLIZZTRANNIES
>>584723921Kael is so lucky
>>584722948Why is she shiny?
Throughout the entire beta, Rogues have just had 4 patch notes that were just random minor fixes.
>>584723921That supposed to be jaina?
>>584717652I'm also looking forward to playing for the horde
>>584725018You haven't seen the endgame sets.
>>584724959annointed with the ceremonial oils n' ready for snusnu>>584724904Thrall*
>>584716374kek>>584716386thia
>>584725081Snowblind, made in 05
>>584723920Asmongoloid...
>>584725018be grateful
MODS MODS MODS MOOOOOOODS THERE'S A N-N-N-NIPPLE!!!!
>>584724959she needs a cage on her clitty
>we try to discuss the game like the refined african aristocrats we are>the brown pakistani brigade spams pornyou will get what's coming to you sooner or later
why cant trolls be druids?
I love avatarfagging
>>584723617You me and everyone else anon...
>>584721757Keep doing that
>>584725801Retail trannies haven't cried hard enough yet, get to work loony troon
>>584722369Yeah it's time to start filtering you
Troll priest or undead priest? Which is more kino?
>>584723921As a white supremacist I don't know why but I love dark nipples. It's like a dirty corruption thing. Hairy armpits are another plus, obviously ugly feminist don't count.
I love mentally retarded manchild avatarfags
one raid tier is a long time
>>584726048both are great. I like undead a little more as a priest as I think they look better in most cloth gear
>>584725326blast from the fucking past
>>584726083>doesn't want to tame a redheaded floppy hanger ugly feminist with armpit hair into a passable housewifengmi
It only took retoilets thirty days in beta to completely ruin this game
>>584725326I miss this art style
>>584726104To be fair, if Tier 1 lasts around a year and includes Barrow Dens + Hyjal + MC + 3-4 more various assortments of 5-40m before Blackwing Lair kicks off Tier 2, it could be an accurate long time.
>>584725610Take your meds faggot
When I get back from wageslaving I'm going to comfy level my undead affliction warlock
holy shit, it's only the most cringe losers from wowg in here now lol
>>584726329When I get back from my 16 hour work day I'll be grinding trolls in STV to get my whirlwind sword
>>584726371The sooner you get off this place the better, I'm just waiting for launch
>>584724782swtor is great. I play it whenever wow is lame. It's always quietly been one of the better mmo's, just less popular than wow eso and FF14.
>>584726580
>>584725253Will the endgame sets give them Cloak of Shadows and Shadowstep?
>>584726580Marry me please
>>584725018>>584725253>>584726713>endgame sets give new spellsModern Blizz would never.
wow forever will fail because no japanese vtuber will play it
this is probably true
So what other damaging spells/abilities do enhance shamans use for when Stormstrike is on CD?
Yeah, I'm thinking reddit has better WoW discussion
>>584726962beat me to it, we won
>>584727036heroic strike
>>584726962The put a Blademaster transmog in the game, they're spitting in your face lol
how will guilds handle the chase items
>>584726894inb4 blizzard pays hololive to play it and sets up the layering system to put them on their own layer
>>584727183can just be an enemy
>>584727197it wouldnt happen, but they do have enough members to run a full raid on their own, no males needed
>>584726962Of course they're lying, why would they make SD models for a mount they were going to release on retail?
Realistically how do they unfuck ele shaman for raiding now? It's dead last even after changes in player sims but somehow in blizz dev calcs it's fine??? How can that possibly work??
>>584727185bloodshed
>blizzard posted their cope excusekek
>>584727396Bloodlust
>>584726962this guy is a thirdie farming engagement on twitter
So they respond to fan backlash about store mounts and store cosmetics but not the way they murdered classes last patch? Cool. Glad they have their priorities straight.
>>584727339Raids are 20 players now so they could run 2 raid groups and combine for the 40 man raids, not that they could clear anything tho
>>584716374Can we get an edit of this where the flag is on fire?
>>584727396They're talents got fixed but the only thing fucked is their numbers which can be easily tuned. You retards keep dooming about specs like this is classic where nothing ever changes.
>>584721525shatter curse was needlessly opbe grateful they nerfed it during beta instead of release
>>584727396They'll probably give it the stupid stormkeeper power-up thing from Legion. Why think of anything new or interesting when you can just cannibalize shit from when the game was good?
>>584727396They gave in to spriests who begged for spec-specific buffs, so I'm certain they'll also give in to eleshamans and add totem of wrath or something.
>>584726962Dataminers are insufferable niggers
>>584727542*theirfuck I should sleep instead of browsing this hellhole general
>>584727185Rotate alts into the raid while the bug chasers keep carrying raids where they dont need any loot except one piece
*parses 99's by just healing hunter and lock pets in you're path*
>>584727379They weren't. They're backtracking.They're just slowly boiling the frog. They'll add these things back in when they feel they can get away with it.
>>584718365I think druid is better than warrior right now for tanking.
>>584727396Its gonna come out that they test this shit in the dumbest way possible. like on a npc with 50% reduced nature res or some shit.Its crazy looking at their spell damage numbers and the only difference between them and every other caster is 10% chance for a half damage version of the spell
Wait a minute is Forever really a timeline reset? So all the jailer shit never happened? If that's the case then I unironically might play again, since I quit when Uther told Jaina to just shut up and work with Sylvanas during that period of the game, and other similar lore debacles.
>>584726580built for knots
>>584727730that was me but all hunters are lonewolf now, back to standing in the lava and healing myself
>>584727036ESL
>>584727731Probably shortly before TLT preorders become available. The cattle will be driven to and fro.
>>584727749yup full reset
>>584727749You really think Microsoft is gonna be the company to reinvigorate Blizzard into a glorious sovlful golden age, the likes of which they haven't seen since 2007?Really?
>>584727379>what are LOD models
>>584727396Who cares, shaman only exist for totems. Faggots want to have burst pvp 1 shot combos and you're not going to have them, so now you get more nerfs.
>>584727396You just increase chain lightnings base cast speed to 2.5 like it was in vanilla which will increase its spell power coefficient so it will hit hard like it did before then make that one talent reduce its cast time again to 1.5 just like it is now. Them reducing the base cast time gutted the spell so it deals no damage so it doesn't matter if their new cap stone lets you go oom spamming it, it still deals no damage.
>>584727559Unironically a good idea, they want elemental to be less bursty, that shit was a CD with a cast time attached to it.
>>584727749Yes>JailerNigger not even Cairne, Vol'jin, Arthas, Illidan, Vashj or Kael'thas have been ruined yet
>>584728006I actually agree desu, replace lb for stormkeeper and make the spec about fatass chain lightnings
>>584726962they are really afraid of forever failing, the refunds are working, they need to know we're not going to eat the shit in the plate this time around.
>>584727185As the guild leader, I will give the chase items to myself. If I run a pug, I will just hard reserve them.
>>584727593Alliance doesn't want shamans because only dwarfs play shamans, them nerfing all the specs and making the totems raid wide is so alliance only has to bring a single resto shaman.
>>584727964
>>584728143>no argumentconcession accepted
>>584726104Fine with me, I dont want to be racing to t3.
>>5847281760.1 WoW token(s) have been deposited into your account. Thanks for your service.
>>584727185guilds? just join the gdkp discord
>>584727396Give it a Lightning Elemental, given Elemental Shaman already is the notable Earth/Fire Ele spec. Let the Lightning Elemental be a basic bitch mage Water Ele and repeat your Lightning Bolts, and able to be your primary target of Chain Lightning. When Lightning Elemental is hit 7 times by Chain Lightning (or Crit x times, whichever), it becomes an empowered raid cd-tier Lightning Elemental, gaining infinite Lightning Shield on itself and repeating your Chain Lightning casts.
>>584728106It's never gonna happen unfortunately, only warriors are allowed to use an AoE button on single target (whirlwind).
>>584727749They've given me no hope they won't fuck everything up again in new unique ways. Blood elves in horde and we're killing vol'jin and all that stupid shit that ruined the horde.
>>584728129You still want 2 shamans minimum for grace of air + windury totems. 1 shaman cannot place both because they are both wind.
>>584728245thanks
>>584727509
>>584727964not textures downrezzed in the same way forever textures are
>>584728332hunters too, you can use AoE damage trap in your melee rotation
>>584726962It's 100% backtracking. The 12 month sub promotion already includes a pet that isn't releasing until next February.
>>584728361
>>584728346Now wheres the part that makes ele or enh viable? They aren't bringing those dead specs with their way worse damage just so they can put down a single totem. You're going to have to go resto just like ret had to put on the dress.
>pay $99 to get all your hard earned greens and gold wipedidiots
>>584728594>pay 99 to play for weeks>refund>pay 25 for the name reservation and blue elvesits that easy
what's the best class to level up in classic era?
>>584728594I wipe my ass with 99$, pablo
Healing shamans rape DPS cuck shamans, it's just true. Druid DPS rape druid healers.
>>584728856Titanforged for Night Elf men
>>584728814rajesh you don't know where the dollar sign goes, stop pretending
>>584728856>Back issues because tits are so hugeHot
>>584728964>night elf menhahahahhahahahahai think you'd be more interested in blood elf men FAGGOT
paying $700 chasing the Magic Rooster TCG loot card = soulful Classic experiencebuying Magic Rooster for $10 in bnet store = cringe retail slop
post green povs
>>584729112magic rooster looks more classic than the new one too
>>584729112Yes you fucking faggot, why are you trying to do a gotcha?
>>584729170This is what happens when your diet consists 90% of just Conjured Mana Biscuits.
>>584728361Based.
>>584727741in one of the dev talks that one beardfaggot mentioned he balanced smite priest around judgement of the crusader being active so it's very possible
>he thinks anyone is rolling ele or enh for pve
if they fix sharding, make mobs more difficult to account for the power creep, and provide incentives to attack enemy faction cities then the game is savedI dont care about all the other bullshit
>>584729170The crazy thing is, the poster below me looks like this.
People are surprised the game already selling you a Elf race that comes with it's own paid transmog, paid mounts and paid battle pets is gonna try and sell you more shit?
>>584729112Genuinely yeah. I'd see that rare old chicken mount and think its pretty cool to have something so unique and rare, he liked that stupid chicken that gave no benefit enough to spend 700 dollars on it. The 30 dollar store chicken looks worse and will be infinitely common.
>>584729170
>MALE>HUMAN>WARLOCKjust like i did in 2008suck on that
>>584729017that isn't a thing in azeroth
>>584728361too disney for wow
Blizzard is mandates that the game has mtx added, what are the most inoffensive things they could add, that still generate revenue?
>>584729314Exactly. They neutered those specs specifically for pvp which is why people liked those specs. They might as well nerf rogues pvp spec too. Its not fun to get stunlocked forever by a rogue, remove that. Why can paladins burst with reck bombing again? remove that too. We can't have fun.
>>584729493
>>584729345>make mobs more difficult to account for the power creepThe fuck are you talking about? While leveling there is hardly any powercreep when it comes to the changes from classic. This isn't SoD where we are enchanting our pants with wotlk spells at level 2.
>>584729170too thin for green
>>584729314I'm going to dual spec my shaman Resto/Ele, yea
>>584729345They should throw a game wide buff to mobs after the beta is over and do internal test on them. They can nerf them after launch if there's too much crying
>>584719102Why are you like this?
>>584729503transfers, race changes, faction changes, renames, and transmog probably. I'm hoping if they do end up putting out mtx transmog sets its shit that actually fits the vibe and not football shoulders and 86 sets of wings like the shit I saw people wearing on ascension
>>584728807warlock or hunter
>>584729618the 60 elites in the world have more hp than they did on SoD right now
>>584728856>>584729170>>584729434pornsick trannies
>buff every monster above level 30>nerf the 30 to 40 level mobs after first week>nerf the 40 to 50 level mobs after second week>nerf the 50 to 60 level mobs after third weekFuck with the people who rush through the content
>>584729112>leftist discourse.jpg
>>584729503Spawns / effects that harass streamers.
>Game goes live>Balance still isn't figured out>Dev team keeps buffing and nerfing racials non stop >Metafags get baited in and keep paying for race/faction transfersHow possible is this to happen?
>>584729986needs her clit caged
>>584728856I love goat tiddies so much bros. Why are we being denied this in forlo?
>>584730015The magic of a supported game is that they are always balancing the game, classicuck.
>>584730085They're going in a different direction, Anon. Play retail if you want goats.
>>584730015What about playing the class and race you enjoy?
wowg and wpsg trannies need attention lol fucking losers
>>584730015There is hardly a difference with racials right now when it comes to pve damage. You should always pick for pvp utility. If you avoid sky elves then you should be good.
>>584730085They're adding the Ieneard, they're sheep people from outer space
>>584729170this looks garbage
I want to avoid trannies in game but it looks like both factions have similar populations, do I just pray I never meet one in game
>>584729170>cellulite on 2DYeah makes sense for greenskins
>>584729503>only MTX is transmog costume packs>all MTX is visable on HD>no MTX is visable on SDdo whatever you want then
>>584729898Do the reverse. Make it harder to level as time progresses
>>584730015>race/faction transferssource?
>>584730378Just don't group with skelves
>>584730021will you cut that out
>>584730204we should just have one general for wow, wowfaag, wow forever and accessories general
>>584728361Rare based post from Maye.
>>584730506when the ai slop posters post some dicks in chastity i will
>>584730021Do not cut this out.
wow forever is ruined by the pedophile disney art style from retail being shoved in the game
I'm high and considering buying a sub for a month of retail before WoWF comes out. Please talk me down from wasting $15.
>>584730015they have no idea what they are doing with the game, every week the balance changes are so big for each class the game doesn't feel like a beta, it feels like a pre-alpha 0.000001, the amount of shit they change every week shows they have done no inhouse QA testing at all and they are probably going to ship this game in this DoA state, it is so bad right now that it might already that the damage might be irreversible already because people are already feeling like this are being taken from them every new patch and that's a death sentence for a game that is not even out yet
>>584730697such as?
>>584730437>Ally have troons playing elves and human female to satisfy their agp fetish>Horde have troons playing skelves and "marginalised" races for representationYou can't win either way huh
Why is warlock the least played class? I remember everyone playing one in Wrath Classic, whatever tedious systems weren't a problem then when they were top DPS.
>>584723696EVIDENCE OF MY ALIEN ABDUCTION IN THE HEALING HUT
>>584730715Do you have the latest expansion? What do you even plan to do in retail? Go one shot rag?
>>584716276>name reservation and character creationBut I was told it was early access and my characters would carry over?
>>584730726it's not just balance, they're not even done designing the classes. they just reworked arcane blast and gave arcane a new spell for their rotation.
>>584730830Because soul shards are the most annoying mechanic in the game and it's genuinely insane that they didn't let them stack in Forever.
>>584730830>people played them when they were FOTM!yes, that is the way it works.
>>584730830The new talent trees are weird and dumb.
>>584730726You're right. They should extend the beta for another month and maybe bump the level up to 35 or 40. People are getting whiplash from these sweeping changes happening every week.
>>584730726>>584730942Really just makes you think why they even rushed to shut down all those pservers if they weren't even ready yet.
>>584730830Hunter is a more fun pet class.Mage is a more fun caster class.
>>584727749Realistically though, wouldnt the J'alor stuff eventually happen or even succeed? I mean if Sylvanas never snaps, something changes with Arthas, etc and we never visit the afterlife wont J'alor be free to keep doing his thing unimpeded? I mean most background villains in WoW have existed for millennia.
>>584730979People who change class based on balance changes are the problem.
>>584730979I think that would be wise, but I have no faith blizzard would ever do that
>come run hall of thanes anon>horde can just sneak in, there's no risk...yeah about that.
>>584727185you still have time to get breast implants and mastery of the myspace angle
>>584730726just like 2004, then
>>584730747If anyone is marginalized it's coomers like me.I like to play hot girl characters because it's nice to look at. A guy is boring, doesn't make me a fucking trooonReeeeee
>>584730830Shut the fuck up anon. I autistically limit myself to only playing under played classes and I love warlock because I find it fun and its unpopular. Don't ruin it for me.
>>584730830Having leveled up lock it's always fucking annoying getting a random whisper in a zone that i'm leveling asking for a summon
>>584730979This shit should of launched next year. I don't think blizzard will have my class figured out at launch and its going to take sometime next year for them to actually have any idea and by then I'll have gotten to 60 and already raided if my class is even allowed to raid.
>>584731186verdict: porn addiction
>>584731263Just demand some gold for your trouble?
>>584731263Conveniently, whispers on Forever by default create a new Conversation Box tab rather than pollute your scrolling text column, so it's even easier to ignore the poors who don't even list a sale offer in their whispers, if you don't already ignore them.
>>584731358whisper 2 random people to help me summon
Im just gonna play the game and have fun
>>584730830sex
So there are elves who came down from sky heaven, saw the horde living in mud huts getting almost wiped out by centaurs and murlocs and decided "yeah I'll join them"?
>>584730726Yeah this. Part of the reason i quit sod. One spec would go from useless to broken in a week. One class would have no aoe then they got a new aoe spell and suddenly they're the best aoe dps.I want to know what I'm getting. Especially since it takes such a long time to level. I'm fine with balance tweaks but I don't want a total rework every other patch.
>>584731161Human baby BTW
>>584731429Ohh I figured they were in the zone with you and trying to summon a friend. If they want you to gather up 3 people then fuck them lmao
>>584731484Wish blizzard would allow me to have fun but no dev or streamer plays my class.
>>584729314No one will be playing ele or enhance at all. It boggles the mind how they gutted both specs. Well good news is you only need 1 resto for raids now, 2 if you’re super sweaty.
>>584730740don't you have a dsa meetup to attend, tranny
I RP as an Undead Chudlock who doesn't talk to anyone and mutters remarks about other races but only under my breath and when safely away from earshot
orcs are simply too stupid to be real mages, we all know it
>>584731491They were mesmerized by big tauren cocks
>>584731484
>>584731632lol why did you turn on hd models? are you a troon?
>>584731642based
>>584731491There are two skelf tribes.One honors their forefathers and the traditions and culture of the highborne.The other are literally larping as mudhuters and see joining the horde as a way to prove their 'cred'.Basically if you play a horde skelf you're literally a wigger.
>>584731491>Do you talk to rocks and the wind>Yeah>Oh sick us tooAnd thats how it happened
>>584717495I'll be waiting for you.
>>584731684so are ogres but thats like a whole thing with them
why did they delay the stress test
>>584731684Idk how to tell you this but even Ogres were mages in WC2.
>>584731835they are panicking
>>584731642>only race that can literally not have a chin>it's the designated chud race
>>584731727the windshapers are the older and more traditional faction within the skyborne race btw lol
>>584731835They're stressing over it
>>584731491The sky elves' skylands were 2/3 crumbled back down to Azeroth, and the 3rd almost met the same fate. Cult bros invited a corpo-Air Elejeet who immediately tried to shit up the island, then left to go report it to his turban-wearing boss, while the Earthern Ring (Shamans) and Dalaran (Mages) showed up and hit the sky elves with sales pitches to join their pyramid schemes with the Horde/Alliance. The sky elf shamans, liking shamanism and disliking Arcane mages, accepted the Earthern Ring recruitment and took skyships to make a base near Thunder Bluff, where the Tauren also introduced them to those shoe-less mudhutters across the Barrens (and the Forsaken).So, gameplay-wise, yes, the Skyborne are mudhutters, but narratively, the Skyborne are Tauren allies and as such have been introduced to the Orcs/Trolls/Forsaken. >>584731727High Order Skyborne are just Highborne weebs. They will see the shattered and brutalized blood elves of Quel'thalas as idols.
>>584731835Need to work on some more shaman nerfs and mage buffs first.
>>584731484Its having a BLAST anon, don't make me remind you again
>>584731693
>>584731835Asmon lagged out the blasted lands a few days ago and now they know the servers need upgrades.
>>584731642I would invite to raid. Especially if you were very racist specifically to skybourne.
>>584731358>ask for 5g for summon>he says ok>summon him>doesn't pay>leaves party and phases into a different layer
>RuthlessThat's a total inversion of Diplomacy. Humans are thoughtful and aligned towards order.
>>584731694why are they even in the game then, troonretail is dead, all you have is falseflagging left to try and justify your crusade of ruination
>>584731026Not really, periodically shutting down pservers will be done regardless.
BLIZZARD!GIVE ME OGRES!AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!
>>584732083Thats reportable and would actually get them banned
>>584732193funserver bullshit
>>584732193ogres will never happen because that means changing the model of 95% of doorways or adding tiny ogres who look stupid
>>584732146Humans are the descendants of literal barbarians.
So what are you fags gonna play/do while you wait for launch
>>584732146That's how Humans turned out after Vanilla+TBC without Varian at the helm. We're gonna run Arcaz Island, break him out at the end, and he's gonna stick a sword through the Naga Warden's skull and declare: "I don't want to see a SINGLE NAGAR leave this island alive!"Once he gets back to Stormwind and kicks that dumb slut Onyxia out of Anduin's bed, I wouldn't be surprised if he declare war on the ocean. We'll win. We're just that ruthless with King Varian back.
>>584732280can just make them dynamically duck their heads a bit when entering doorways.
>>584732193ogres wont happen because blizzard hates fun and doesnt want this game to ever be fun. ogres would also be able to be shaman and blizzard especially hates shamans and horde races.
>>584732235good. ban those indo jewlock summoners
>>584731684Nigga of the most powerful spellslingers in lore (wc3 and earlier) 2 of them are orcs (not technically mages tbf) and ogre mages are a classic.You sound like a Kirin Tor bitch. The most powerful human-aligned mages didn't even want to be part of your dragon-infested club.
>>584730830I don't mind shards really but it's the one class that's always been unintuitive to me, I have no idea what makes a good talent build and it feels confusing
>>584732193Sorry chud, heres you 30 dollar sparkle dog and lol soh randum chicken and turtle mounts.
>>584732340I'm going to finish undervolting my cpu, need to stress test each core individually to find out the bad ones, then I'll install cachyos and spend 2 weeks configuring the os, then I'll play the game IF blizzard unfucked otherwise I'll play dota and path of exile instead
>>584732349These people hate men and everything about us. They've been demasculating male characters for years in movies and TV shows; it was only a matter of time before they did it in video games.
>Make Quel'Thalas a zone full of high level undead>Put Naxxramas on top of the former SunwellIt's that easy.
>>584732154for female gnomes. that it
>>584732529Behind on the shitpost meta
>>584730830It's hard to play and not good
>>584731835the time of the stress test... got changed
>>584732193>shit man you know what i really want>to play as canonical retards
>>584731804Wish orcs actually had an available hairstyle like this.
>>584732743No, thats the blood elf capital. We also need it to be the starter zone for blood elves for when they join the horde.
>>584732340Be depressed while hoping to be accepted at one of the jobs I applied for. Contemplate suicide. Lift weights.Deadlock, Warcraft 3 and SF6.
>>584732871Let the man self-insert
Sorry, gotta use the neflie
>>584732774reddit spacing the brown generation's symbolic way of waving the white flag lol ironic
>>584733004caged i hope
>>584732871I'd rather play a fat retard over a blue twink.
>>584732340Probably hover my finger over the refund, hoping we get some update on them fixing shaman and making them playable before launch. If it doesn't come by the time name reservations happen then im refunding.
>>584732871this but unironically
>>584732340Hardcore
>>584733081Brother, if you care about Shaman that much, you like the game. Just enjoy it.
>>584732340play arc raider and watch some capeshit probably
>>584731727>>584731942how embarrassing as if the Asmongoloid larp wasn't ridiculous enough
>>584726962>rare moment in history when dataminers are useful to call a bad company out on its bullshit and complete inability to be trusted with their own products and servicesJUST
>>584732340Probably gonna finish Borderlands 4
peak white female body
Skelf move speed needs to stack with other effects. There's no point in a racial that gives 10% move when everyone already has a boot enchant that gives 8% move.
>>584733018>d-did you just heckin space out your post for better legibility like people have done since 2004!KYS nigger faggot
>>584733308Night Elf and Troll Females have better bodies.Amazonian. Not shrimpy.
>>584731727this is why I think horde should only get blue, grey, purple tones like nelves, and alliance should only get human tonesit makes them farm more distinct as races
>>584733081Plenty of other classes to try in the mean time
Cagefag filtered, I'm done with his mental illness
>>584733319It should be reworked to be: "+10% faster than the nearest other player, minimum +10%," to capture the concept of wind and being a Chase vs Flee button.
>>584732743>Deatholme as a new dungeon>Left side of Silvermoon as a 10man raid>Isle of queldanas as a 20man raid>Corrupted Sunwell chamber housing a single 40 man boss encounter against the tainted well itself
>>584733384>Amazonianthey're built like roided tall bastketball players with narrow hips
>>584732340I am having a lot of fun with Forsaken kingdom. Way better and longer than I expected.
>>584733189I just want classic shaman doing big crits and blasting hard hitting chain lightning. Blizzard said specifically in their class podcast they don't want shaman to be like that anymore. Before this update it was fine if ele and enh weren't great because you still needed them in raid for their totems and having them in their respective groups, now they didnt fix either and theres no point in bringing ele or enh when resto will do the same exact thing while also being good so you'll be pressured by everyone to not play your dps specs and just heal if you want to raid.
>>584733487don't talk about the janny like that
>>584730830>summon bitch for the entire raid>soul stone bitch>health stone bitch>random summons throughout the entire day, no matter where you are>hey, can u sum my friend to scarlet monastery for 1g?
>>584733431Agreed. Unique racial silhouettes are an important part of faction identity in the original game. They've fucked that with the skelves but they could at least somewhat salvage it by locking skin tones.
>>584733505What happens if the other player is also a skelf with that active?
>>584732340I will play the forsaken campaign in WC3.
uhoh, the predditor is seething and greentexting it's delusion seething this early doesn't bode well for us
>>584733487>more upset with a shitposter than ai slop spamweak
>>584733697If the other skelf activated it on you, with you having at most the 8% movement speed on your boots at the time, they are 10% faster than you, and then you become 10% faster than their new speed when you cast, anon. I wouldn't trust Blizz with a dynamic updating movement speed calc.
>>584732876Idk why every orc hairstyle sucks ass
Racial skill homogenization and nerfsRaid homogenization, they're going to force warrior and rogue stacking because of thisRetail devs designing your changes are going to give you retail
>>584733319not only that, it's a fucking 0.5 second hard cast with 1.5 gcdwhat a fucking meme ability for 10% ms
>>584732871imagine the tardspeak rp... kino...
I for one am happy that as a human warrior I can use axes in endgame too.
so we're definitely Gilneas at some point. What are your expectations/hopes?>High level zone>5 man dungeon sorta like SFK>Raid where Arugal comes back and is super hyper powerful>Some Worgen are actually not insane and break free from Arugal's control, neutral faction with some neat rewards
Now they just need to make sunder armor a selfish debuff that only affects the warriors who apply it.
>>584734115how about a SHELLfish buff? xD
>>584733862It would be hilariously broken with snapshotting though.>somebody parks a bot rogue near elemental convergence>pay them 10g to get 80% movespeed for 15min
>>584734113Wintergrasp style battle over the capital city.
>>58473411350+ leveling zone, 2 dungeons and a 10 man raid where we kill the idiot king, Genn Greymane
>>584734291Sylvanas pls go
>>584734113Itll be one of the portals to the Shadowlands!!!
Stress Test moved to the 21st
>>584734206Hell yeah, that's the dream. Gotta give those poor rogues a way to earn gold, you know?
>>584734113no more neutral races.The playable Worgen in WoWever should be Night Elf Worgen.
when are they adding belfs
[Meta] Could the moderators of this sub please focus more on combating the excessive doomerism of this sub?Honestly, 90% of this sub is just absurd doomerism about the state of Forever. I have never seen a more utterly miserable community of people online than what I've seen from this sub since Forever was announced. The sub is borderline unusuable, and is generally quite unpleasant to browse
>>584733525id tongue punch ur taint well
>>584734335Brokies, not like this!
(You)
>>584734452Are reddit in full defense/shill mode after the mounts and balance patches or something?
>>584734452i play shaman so i have every right to be upset
I was praising the new assets and defending blizzard against the doomers, and they repay me by posting this?What the actual fuck?
>>584734582are not preparedlemme know if you got that reference
>>584733372Um, did you just heckin put a space between you’re green text and you’re response? Uhhh you can not do that.
new races? mmmmmm nah ill be a tauren again for the 20th time
>>584734113that worgen trinket from epoch that procs from anything and goes AWOOOOOO
>>584734115Speaking of sunder armor, I haven't seen anyone talk about how Hunters will need to bring a goofy tallstrider to raids for pic related.
>>584734113They should add Daughters of Arugal.Kinda sexist otherwise
>>584734718i do this
>>584734590from what i've seen they're crying about races or classes getting nerfed/buffedthis is also why they should've fucking finished the basic balance and class design before the beta.
>>584734631Well those tards better get something for other tards to buy or theyre gonna miss while the iron is hot!
>>584734113Coherent Worgen join Sylvanas as a new Horde race, while Gilnean survivors join Stormwind, bringing Human Druid into the class pool. Siege of Gilneas Naxx-style wings 20m raid, 10m raid crushing the Worgen Den, which has been twisted and made even worse by the terrifying mystery of Tirisfal / make some Dark Riders of Karazhan tie-in here. 5man dungeon on one of the islands to the south, with pirates, and a single boss that teasers the state of Kul Tiras.Also a roaming world boss that is basically Fel Reaver, but a giant wolf. Some dumb, jokey name like Fenrirver.
>>584734718>plainsrunning>increased mount speed>increased crit damage>lower cooldown on war stomp>crashing the black lotus marketIt's never been a better time to pick a tauren.
>>584734775isn't that the same debuff slot as faerie fire? just let druids handle it and bring the AP buff pet
>>584732235>report me for not paying for a summon >create new account >buy gold >get summon>here's an extra tipEnjoy your account ban faggot. Should've kept your mouth shut.
>>584734775it's the same debuff as reck and faerie fire.
>>584734934Hilariously, the last update made it so Ferals (cat+bear) can't proc Omen of Clarity from FFire in feral forms, so now they can be just as selfish and refuse to reduce armor, just like the sunder warriors, lol.
find treasure is not an active ability
>>584732871I want to play two headed retards thank you
Gilneas will be the portal to The Knot Lands… where Vulpera will be introduced
>>584734775Is a plainstrider gonna be a good option as a leveling pet? Does armor reduction matter vs low level mobs?
>Retailification isn't real>okay Retailification is real but it's hardly noticeable>Retail art style is superior, actually>fuck you warcraft chuds, get out of our WoWTrooneverI wish only the worst for you raped husks still trusting blizzard
>>584733308basedskinny girls are hot
>>584735030But they also made FFire generate threat now so bears have a reason to open with it.
Is anyone here going to play a holy paladinI think it might be even more raped than shaman
>>584733525>Sunwell fight>Expect recolored Immerseus>Get goth Anveenah-hot
>>584735398Healers in general are gonna be scarce.
>>584735398What are you talking about?Holy pala is the best MT healer.
>>584735491gee kalec, two human girlfriends?
>>584735220I wish I could have such lively conversations with the voices in my head. You're so imaginative.
>>584735016This spell is so fucking good in dungeons I hate how some locks never use it
>>584735398Shaman healing specc is at least good, I don't know whats wrong with Holy but some people seem to be saying that it sucks at healing or the talent tree doesn't have enough to offer.
>male orc warlock>bad ass>stinky>fem human warlock>cute facade>evil insideso hard to decide bros. release is gonna be hard to choose from
>>584735525Yea because blizzard STILL refuses to buff dungeon XP more, so >>584735398is gonna be running around in the open world as a paladin in +healing cloth and leather gear lmao
>>584735398it looks pretty bad, half the holy tree is damage shit then on top of that there's barely anything good in the other trees so half your points are wasted. they even felt the need to make this attacks only (comparable talent for druid and shaman works for both attacks and spells).
>>584735683fem human warlock goth mommy w/ succubus
>>584735645>d00d I am le epic plague master
why is my game capped at 60fps now even with vsync definitely disabled
>>584734113Wait it's not already in? Kek, turtle wow had that.
>make classicplus>make a raptor dungeon>make a furbolg raid>just reuse assets and copy paste world textures>ah a job well done >okay time to check what the players expect>OMG I NEED 10 NEW RACES AND 5 NEW NAXXRAMAS SIZED RAIDS WITH 35 ALL NEW BOSSES EACH WITH MECHANICS ON PAR WITH KELTHUZAD AND AN EPIC NEW WORLD RECONSTRUCTION THAT REINVENTS THE LORE CONNECTING AZEROTH TO NORTHREND WHERE WE FIGHT LICH KING IN A COMPLETELY REIMAGINED ICE CROWN CITADEL WHICH ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRETY OF THE ISLAND BECAUSE ARTHAS IS JUST THAT STRONG...lol you're not getting anything, retard. you're getting new avalon and more mob dungeons.
thoughts? i made AI to use info as up to date as possible, it's very aware of yesterday's patchthis isnt about min maxing dmg but more about the "best designed" or best feeling loops for each class going into release
>>584735736>half the holy tree is damage shitBecause they knew nobody would want to take the seal twisting garbage capstone in Ret so they wanted to make sure the Holy tree had worthwhile talents for them to reach Holy Shock.
>>584735915I just want the option to have my trolls or undead stand upright.
>>584735952>thoughts?I'm thinking peanut butter banana sandwich for breakfast tomorrow
>>584736018have you tried playing retail?
>>584735645fuck off im using curse of elements
>>584735915It's genuinely unhinged
>>584735952>asks ai then asks wowfgHave you ever thought about thinking for yourself?
>>584735952>Twist of Light>A-tierMore like D tier.
>>584733550>universe full of fantasy females>human women are still the bestTotal human supremacy.
>>584735645It's a great spell for controlling a mob with Fear -> Reck -> Fear.
>>584736127Well, he may have not played every single class.
>>584736065No. And I dont want to.
>>584735915When the devs are taking shortcuts by digging into the bag of 20+ years of models and objects then YES people are expecting much bigger things from them.
>>584736018this please, and orcs
>>584736029Almond butter banana is more optimal.
>>584735843Because there's a setting to target a specific framerate
>>584736317it sounds like you do though.
>>584736237it asked it to summarize a lot so it cant talk about every single spec, the tier is for the overall state of the class in generalprot was so strong that it had to be nerfed, ive played a Ret until 25ish and it felt smooth all the way up, havent healed yeti also leveled as a Survival Hunter to 30 before that and it was faster, easier and safer than the Paladin so i also agree with the ranking, i gave up on both my Feral druid and Enh Shaman at 20 and am now in the process of leveling a Mage before beta ends>>584735952
>>584716371Do I play with <Fun Havers> or <Remigration>? Still don't know if I want to be a MUD HUT NO SHOES dirty horde nigger or join the faction for trannies and children.
>>584721723>I AM THE EGGMAN>THATS WHAT I AM>I AM THE EGGMAN>I GOT THE MASTER PLAN
>>584736275Too bad it always makes the control freak tank have a meltie and act like you're trying to grief the group.
>>584735639and I wish you would kill yourself a very public fashion for being a shillalas,
>>584736284yeah ty anon, i havent played warlock or priest yet and only one spec of the other classes and once i doubt i'm gonna lv30 my current mage, so i share that to asks for feedback
>>584735220I dont trust them at all, I just hope I can get a few months of enjoyment out of the game before it becomes terminally pozzed
>>584734113>What are your expectations/hopes?Playable worgen that look like THIS
this is, realistically, the last last LAST chance to play a rogue and be a giant griefing chud. everything else will be retoliet sloppified and any future freshes people know too much about the dungeoncleave metaare you really going to pass up that opportunity?
Imagine being this mentally ill and paranoid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZQDCJZW4E
Is Azshara Crater still going to be a dota style BG?
>>584736976no, that would be cool.
>>584736838Tbh i prefer griefing as a hunter. With 51 yards snipes it will be easy to take people out in places they think they're safe and escape from guard spawns. But yes, it will be a glorious time to make some retoiletters seethe
The classic WoW subreddit is extra strange at the moment. They still haven't recovered from blizzard backtracking on the new assets after spending so much time defending them.Now they're somehow trying to turn it around on the doomers for even thinking blizzard would use retail assets, even though those assets were literally datamined from the game files.
>>584736976That wouldn’t be fun in WoW, look at the Wrath BGs with the vehicles. People want to play their class.
>>584736945>game isn't even out>retards are already begging for expansion-sized content drops that go against the spirit of wanting to do smaller stories set in a vanilla AzerothFuck right off
>>584736761are there guilds in retail referencing arugal or the scythe of elune?
>>584736253definitely, i'll go human for priest, lock and paladin since the elves can't do it, fuck dwarves/shamans
>>584737081Aw man Gadgetzan is gonna be full of people sniping from the rooftops again isn't it
>>584729865>trannysick
>>584736253actually gnome women are the best
>>584737126A lot of things get datamined that never make it into the game or we’re never intended for the game. Uther's hammer was datamined as a legendary weapon in SoD and it never got added.
>>584737249 gliding down from the mountains we'll find even crazier spots to snipe from than ever before
>>584737186Definitely Knot
>>584737249bruisers have ranged knockback guns nowat least the booty bay ones do
AWR
>>584737297Yes, but doomers get the benefit of the doubt while Blizzard does not. If they're wrong about something, everyone instantly forgets it and moves onto the next thing to doom about. All is forgiven.
>>584737170you had your chance #nochanges-fagsyou didn't support classicnow it's time for #changeitall
You keep coping.My Ethereal Bard is inevitable.
>>584736838I still remember in era an orc rogue with thunderfury that just went to town on the city every day for months on end
>>584736945wrath babies are so delusional. arthas was just a pawn of a pawn of a pawn of a pawn. even illidan had more power.
>Hpals are so cucked that spriests are beating them in healing with just vampiric embraceLMAO
Humans should be able to be Shamans
>>584736838I'm not going rogue, I'm going feral and using track humanoid to hunt low levels.
>>584736945>arthas was just a pawn of a pawn of a pawn of a pawn.we don't want to go there again
>>584737409Trvke
wild growth is a very gay spell and i always hated it
>>584737126They're also accusing dataminers of lying about their sources. Some are calling for an end to datamining entirely. Some are wokescolding that negative feedback will just "make the devs less likely to interact with players at all".
>>584737965>Some are wokescolding that negative feedback will just "make the devs less likely to interact with players at all".They're right though.His name was Tom Ellis.
>>584737965Datamining is a double edged sword. No more sense of discovery and exploration, but you know if things are going to go bad. WoWhead are fags thoughie.
I took a DnD "what class am I" quiz and it said I was a half-elf cleric, 17 int, 16 wiz, 15 chawhat class do I play
>>584737635what are the numbers for hpriest?
>>584738282Clerics in DanD are more like shammies than priesties.
>>584738154wowhead gets shit wrong all the time. and their "chief dataminer" gets extra huttburt when he gets called out on it. thirdie child clinging onto any of his relevance.
>>584738282Blood Elf Paladins arent a thing in Forever, sorry
>>584738282night elf priest or human paladint. never played tabletop
>>584738282Paladin, Shaman, Priest. There's not a direct 1:1 class in Warcraft. Also post the quiz, don't hold out on us.
What does being retail minus mean?
>>584738282that stat spread lends to some sort of cleric wizard hybrid. tempest cleric shit. makes me think shaman.
>>584737635>rdruid getting less than 30% overheallol
>>584737965>reddit expects everyone to walk on eggshells around blizzard, just so we don't hurt their feelings by being too honest with our feedback.it gets to a point.
>>584737965>calling for an end to dataminingwhat does that even mean?
>>584719810this body type only looks good with a fat cock dangling between her legs
>>584737965Dataminers of the Jews of World of Warcraft
>>584738459What the fuck are those
you know what i like? class hallsthey should make new class halls, obviously for each faction
>>584738856no??????? ??
RIP NATE HIGGERS
>>584737635What the fuck is shaman?
>>584731727>One honors their forefathers and the traditions and culture of the highborne.the horde ones that are enemies of the night elves right
>>584738459alex doesn't eat his garloids does he...?
>>584739037HST means healing stream totem
>person defends [insert system or change that was one of the many cuts that was responsible for the game becoming retail]>they refuse to play retail because its shit and excited for ForeverWhat is this phenomenon called?
troons ruin everything
>>584739274j allen brack syndrome
>>584737290it's totally normal to spam the general with lock it up tranny chastity and bestiality knot spamthe one's that call it out as mental illness are the one's who are wrongplease fucking kill yourself
>>584717436>hate streamers>center all my attention around themshut the fuck up about streamers if you dislike them so much holy shit are you retarded
>>584739307?
>>584739354>you think you dont want retail features but you do
>>584738918I -think- it's yogurt-covered strawberries/raspberries that are lazily covered with chocolate.
>>584739416i see more complaining about trannies in these threads than i see actual trannies
>>584735952decently accurate
>>584735952>C-Tier: Warlockforever underrated
>>584738958wrong
>>584720657please sph me I'll be your gold wallet
what race is this supposed to be?
>>584739629that's because you are one and can't accept any type of criticism for ruining the game and turning the art style into disney pedophile shityou think it's totally normal and acceptable to turn this version of the game into a dead tranny shitfest just like retail
post the Scarlet Supremacy
>>584740419how do you even call yourself a man when it's so small
Thinking of rolling a gnome priest. Are gnomes based or cringe?
>>584740665albino Dunmer from Morrowind
>>584740665goth gf (sexy) race
I'm putting my dad hat on for this post, because after reading many of the posts today some of y'all in this general needs to hear this Too many are getting absolutely obsessed and bogged down in the min-max mentality already, alright?I have a daughter, and in her teen years despite us being a working class family she got really materialistic. If we spent $1 more on her brother at Christmas then she definitely had the notion that we 'owed' her that $1 somehow, it was wild.Now reading post about racials and class balance today, I get the same feeling of listening to crazy.Getting hyper obsessed with equality across everything is just gonna ruin your experience, and worse yet if Blizzard feel they need to listen to that sort of talk it's going to ruin it for everyone else when they start homogenising everything. No one came to Classic for that.Doing 1% less DPS than another race doesn't matter more than just enjoying the game, accepting that every race and class has it's strengths and weaknesses - and if it does matter to you then roll that race/class!TL:DR; don't get obsessed with total equality, min-maxing, and perfection. You will spoil it for yourself. WoW Forever is shaping up to be a great experience. These are the good times, and for once we can be aware of them while it's happening!
>>584737729kelthuzad tichondrius nerzhul kiljaeden and sargeras.
i was in world 10-30 guild for 5-6 years on warcraft logs classic and anniverisarywe were going horde now we going alliance after racial balance... bros its over
>>584739629TRVKE
>Madseason exposing forever as retail minus LMFAO
>>584740770only pedos play gnomes
>>584740770Based and you make all other priests seethe at how good the gnome priest racials are.
>>584740770gnomes are based. You get to be ass height
>>584740716
>>584740665michaela jacksonrage
>>584739274Tribalism via product consumption
>>584740982now gen it with a good art style like incase
>>584740916What does being retail minus mean?
>>584740982oh my goodness
>>584740968Imagine the smell
>>584717652real troons are playing horde to get ORC'D as skiggers>>584719347>censoring namesyou either ripped this from a reddit-esque space or a discord server, you're also a cuck, fuck you.>>584719810grim>>584740837>2019 classic>choose human male priest, because it made me happy, even knowing dwarf was essential>sweat like fuck to level fast>apply to sweaty guild>rejected>spend the rest of vanilla fucking with the top guilds that rejected me, playing both factions, griefing them, locking them out of world chat, griefing world bosses>have a load of fun, make memories, make long term friends i still talk topeople who chase minmax live a cursed existence, and will eventually raidlog, and quit.
>>584740982Ewwwww
>>584740925Only pedos play female gnomes, male gnomes are played by real human beings.
>>584741026>incase>good
>>584739274it's called coping that they've grown out of the retail game, while being unable to enjoy Forever (a completely different game with a different audience). It's actually really sad.
>>584732350make them have the collision box of a normal sized race, and all their mass outside of that box has full gelatinous physics simulations that flex and bounce off of terrain
>>584740770flashbang racial into aoe fear is gonna give noshoes aneurysms in pvp
>>584741026gen whitemane in kentaro yabuki's style
tranny seething and starts posting nigger genspottery
Uh, I don't really give a shit if they're selling some mounts in the in-game store in Forever as long as they're not stuff like the brutosaur, mammoth, etc, and are just regular ass mounts. Or some stupid transmog. They were going to do it regardless, because there's no box price for Forever or anything like that.Also you already paid for a fucking RACE you hypocrites.
>>584739732it does play like garbage though, regardless of dmg
>>584740837Being allowed into groups is what keeps me from enjoying the game. People will see my class / spec doesn't do as much damage as another spec and they won't invite me unless I reroll to a spec I don't want to play.>erm... that doesn't happen chudHappened all the time in classic. Half of every raid even "casual" pugs was all warrior stacking because warriors were the meta. If you tried to join as ret or feral or boomkin you'd be laughed at and told to go heal spec even when classic was super face rolling easy. People also all played the meta dps class because it was the meta class so there were tons of them.I'm not in control of "enjoying the game" when other retards making the groups and making the raids and managing guilds are all looking at min max tier lists and see ele shaman at the very bottom so they deny me joining the group because I deal 88% as much damage as a warrior when they could just bring a warrior.
>>584741175now try Satoshi urushihara
Uh, I don't really give a shit if they're selling some wow tokens or level boosts as long as
Best horde and alliance race for PvE huntard?
>>584741519>>584741519>>584741519>>584741519New thread.
>>584740982holy FUDGE
>>584741247
>>584741560beautiful
>>584741473except the damage disparity between meme specs and real specs were abysmal in classic, so much so that you were literally dead weight. No one wants to play with that. You won't be barred from a group if the damage ranges are close. People want class variety in their raid because it usually means more loot for them
Im surprised my refund went through despite playing through all of WC3 + expansion and 60 hours of the beta.
>>584741536nelf/orc, just remember to press the cooldown at the same time with rapid firedwarf/tauren are extra bad because hunters already have 230% crit damage multiplier from talents
>>584740837didn't read lol
>>584740750it's o-only because I'm locked up..
>>584741762>except COPEExcept nothing. Classic was face rollingly easy. You could beat MC with like 20 people and not need a full 40 man. Hell, with naxx gear people 5 manned MC and Ony.Did that stop everyone from stacking warriors? Did that stop everyone from farming tons of consumables? Did that stop everyone from stacking raid buffs? No, it didn't. Everyone still autistically min maxxed everything all the time. People are going to min max the fun out of forever too and min maxxing the fun out of it means not allowing specific specs into raid.
>>584740837Is your daughter single?
>>584742274>wahh i cant show up do nothing and get carrieddont worry bud you'll be able to play your favorite class and spec in your 4 hour clear dadguild
>>584742334No she sucks and fucks for pocket money.
>>584742537How much?
