Everything's Ruined But Not Really edition>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends and stress test begins on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Guilds<Daybreak Company> NA RP PvEhttps://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj<Fun Havers> NA PvEhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5wThread Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOGzKCnNBF4>Previous Thread>>584741519
hunter gods
This is the thread
You have ordered your waifu for the launch right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzJyt1HZ8k
>no one from /wowfg/ is competing in the tournamentexplain yourselves?
Are we excited to see our favorite parasocials in the duel tournament absolutely crush the dreams of financially destitute amateurs?
Rest in peace nate higger
>>584763664weave is even higher
when are they adding my body type to the game
What is the intended purpose behind Elemental and Enhancement Shaman in Forever?
>>584763781help people to spot the noobs
>>584763781to level and tenderly eat ass
they should let us play human females on horde
>>584763781to have fun while leveling.
>>584763740when did obesity become attractive to you
>>584763867and let us play horde females on alliance
>>584763867they should, i want to be a traitor who passionately servers my horde master
>>584763781To suffer.
Blome
>>584763928>servers
>>584763781To have fun while leveling and doing dungeons and then rerolling to an actual class at 60
>>584763781To level your resto shaman to 60.
>>584763942>meta slaves and streamer scum not going hordebased. I prefer to play with human beings
>>584763916my aunt raped me when i was a child and that's what she looks like
>>584764000he was thinking about rp-pvp too much
>>584763958did you just do a racial phalacy ? you are blessing this general o algo
>>584763942
Why don't they just keep racials being strong but their faction based instead of race?
I get tuning down orc, but they literally murdered undead, it has by far the worst racials in the game and the worst of it is that it shows once again that they have no idea what they are doing with this game, it's red flag after red flag with forever, no sane person should be thinking the game won't be a short lived disaster by now
Scripe said Forever is BAD because your alts will be stronger than your main because of legacy points
>>584764067>they have no idea what they are doing with this gameyou mean like the original vanilla devs
>>584763659I didn't want to name my character 'foreverpvp'.I'm an RPer.
>>584764057The Alliance Factional is [Played by Devs], and Horde factional is [Ugly But Better at PVP]
>>584764138how will they be stronger than your main when none of the combat options work in raids dungeons or battlegrounds?
kino
>>58476413880 IQ on displayall your characters benefit
>>584763596I feel like lowest spec should be in the 80% range. Then consider the unique utility and everything becomes viable without breaking the spirit of Classic.
>>584763659I am not brown (spiritually or actually)
>>584764026understandable, have a nice day
>>584763958this is a good picture.
>>584764157You changed your surname to Foreverpvp as a requirement to enter the tournament in search for someone who has wronged you.
>>584764221Kino. Is this how RP servers go?
>>584764221peak
>>584764279why is she frog
>>584764221soul...
>>584764067>they literally murdered undeadYou get a fear/charm dispel, 35% hp/mana regen, and a free 3% dps+heal and it's still not enough?
>>584764221now gank him 15 times until the light flickers out from his eyes
Alright guys. I'm Logging in.
>>584763847>>584763904>>584764002>>584764018Is it odd that I'm fine with Shadow being the designated leveling spec for Priest, yet can't help but feel disappointed when Shaman has TWO designed leveling-only specs instead of just one?All roads lead to healing if your class allows for it, yeah. But it feels like the class fantasy with Shaman could be so much more than just larping as a DPS until suddenly becoming a healbot at 60. There's more wasted potential there compared to Priest, which has a very obvious identity as a healer's healer first and foremost, and just happens to have a leveling spec to make soloing more bearable.
>>584764338disingenuous faggot
>>584764368>playing on PVPkek
Never played alliance, they got all the nice things in forever. I'm not even talking about racials. Talking about the boats, portals exclusive zones etc.
>>584764370Have fun bro. I'm waiting for my new TV to arrive and then I'm playing with a controller on it later. Will be kino.
Trannies (actual) lost.
>>584764387says the one implying a race is now 'murdered' and no doubt 'unplayable' and 'useless'. Ironic
>>584764067Undead were the most played race in the beta and people will still pick them for looks and because they don't realize the racials are bad, the internal cooldown of ToTG is not even mentioned on the tooltip in-game.
>>584764459obsessed
>>584764459can you not think about trannies for one thread
>>584764459This is good. no?
>>584764487for me it's laintime
>>584764402if you enjoy playing single player games then hey, more power to ya
>>584764459I'm not a tranny although I'd breed one ngl and I wanted the tortoise as well. It's cool.
>>584764387Wanna trade with the dorfs? They sometime get an extra banana when they open a chest.
Is the paladin population going to be shit come the actual release since the patch? Undead with plate is cool and I just want to heal.
You can’t remove gnomes. How would you fix them to make them genuinely cool from aesthetic and lore perspective
>>584764528it isnt goodwe want new mounts and mogsthe classic community is going to destroy forever
>>584764516I think it's fair when they're trying to ruin our game. Although I bet most of them aren't like that. I know a few who have great reverence for the spirit of Classic.
>>584764487>nerf undead because of high play rate>buff humans
>>58476458530% of horde will be undead paladins20% on alliance
>>584764617Give us tinker class
>>584764414They brought alliance up to parity, this makes the noshoes mudhutters seethe
>>584764487undead was the most played because they got a new class exclusive to them and people wanted to try it out
>>584764628>we want new mounts and mogs>weLol, hang yourself.
I never played Mage before, is there anything I need to change?
>imagine giving a fuck about what ecelebs have to say about anything>imagine giving a fuck about "world pvp" >imagine thinking WoW is not niggerified normie version of a MMO in all of its forms and gatekeeping any aspect of it>imagine playing this grindy garbage for decades nonstop>imagine giving a fuck about "there not being anything to do other than raid logging"i will enjoy Forever for what it is, have a nostalgia session with my friends after a long time and then drop it when it stops being fun. simple as. this community is full of the most insufferable retards on the planet. you mongoloids know that there is other stuff to do in life other than leveling a hunter #65, right?
>>584763740When are they making nelfs real?
>>584764628This comment here is why devs should never directly listen to people. You'll get pulled 10 directions cause everyone has their 'vision' of what the game should be in their head. Good devs should know what's good and bad for the game.
>>584764617let them hop on the shoulders of larger races
What the hell were the proc rates for touch of the grave before then? It used to proc enough to do about 2% damage at like level 10 where you mostly just auto attack, how could they have possibly made it any worse
>>584764729im built like that
>>584764617Make them aa clickable objects any other race could click and have then run up and punt into the next zone over, it's a free racial flight path!
>>584764729probably a few days after you die irl, it's tough
>>584764778mounts and mogs are good for the game, it adds another revenue streamnillers dont understand balance isnt set in stone so theyll quit as soon as they realize their top parsing class isnt #1 anymore
>>584764778>Good devsYou see this is the problem with 2026 Blizzard. they don't have any of those.
>>584764713>im actually better than you because I don’t care about the discussion and have no opinion one way or the otherIt’s 2026 how are people still butting in with this online
>>584764814I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the greater good
>>584764881it's 2026 and people are still illiterate. i am not against discussion. i am saying your "discussion" is fucking retarded and all these horses have been beaten to death a billion times already. all it takes is one look through the ecelebs and their videos you keep posting here as part of the "discussion". one look at their dysgenic, autistic, retard faces says it all. no wonder you all can't stop playing one of the most braindead games to ever get commercial success.
>>584764585>plate>healI have bad news for you
>>584764617Lean into the badass demon hunter aesthetic
>>584765026great contribution to the thread, please keep posting your valuable insights
We're so fucking back!
>ugh this mount isnt in the spirit of classic>theyre fine with the BMAH, price capped items like lotus vendors>changed expertise racials to +crit>this is fine>change +crit with 1 weapon type to all weapon types>this is not ok
>>584764545I will while grouping up with other players, thanks!
>>584765026Ok. You’re not saying anything
>>584765060>gnome>badassSorry, the only aesthetic Gnomes will ever have is cute little fleshlight
>>584764713>imagine giving a fuck about what ecelebs have to say about anythingthats a nice platitude but they have a direct influence on devs and game development so it does matter
>>584764617Give them fur and fox heads.
>>584765060if your gnome isn't a priesthole then you're doing it wrong
>>584765131>>584765217no, of course i am not "saying anything" to you, because you are a retarded person. i will drop this game probably in 6 months and then come back 5 years later and you will still be here stuck in your autismo loop of leveling hunters talking about the same braindead shit you are now. it's basically like stimming for you. of course, i don't expect you to understand any of this like i wouldn't expect it from Frankie MacDonald.
>>584763596What the fuck did Shamans do to deserve this, I mean really
>>584765251Give yourself a buckshot enema
>>584765367genuinely can't be bothered to read but I'm glad you're having fun
>>584765329That is a dwarf
>>584765329
>>584764778>2010+16 blizzard>good devslol, lmao
>>584764617I would get rid of gnome warriors since its just too stupid even for WoW and I’d give them more normal voices and make them more like halflings that live in snow and are good at tech rather than nutty professors and autism stereotypesAnd for the love of god give the males good hair options
>>584765447>like giant tits>must be a pedo
>>584765428sure, nerd. you have better things to do after all. like grind professions in a beta or jerking off to 8 year old alextrasza, right? wouldn't want to keep you from your very important life.
>>584765447>see developed woman with giant tits>Instantly thinks about pedophiliaGet help Anon, might not be too late.
>>584765482whatever you do, keep posting in the wow forever general
>>584765550i don't think i will. i am not an autismo stuck in an endless loop of leveling hunters like you. enjoy your stimming sesh.
>>584765367Man there really are sincerely low IQ people on 4chan this poor guy really shouldn’t have ever been able to come on the internet
>>584765329Damn anon sauce?
>>584765616>i don't think i will>keeps postingTHE RAPED
>>584765632>sauce?boredom and nvidia GPU
Time to get /fit/ anons
>>584765753That's cool. I wish I wasn't that much of a smoothbrain and lazy myself to do it
>>584765765>shrimp checkShould I buy some and check my fridge or...
the only thing that should be standing upright for Orcs and Trolls are their big savage cocks
>>584765765>get fit by being bad at the gameCounterproductive.
>>584765616that's right anon, keep the tab open. everyone has to know that you're a winner
>>584765765>Completed quest: drink waterhow many piss buckets i'll need in first 20 levels?
>>584765835
>>584763942This guys weirds me out something off about him can't quite put my finger on it
>>584765536women shorter than 5 feet are children so if you find one attractive you are a pedo
>>584765853We need faction switching on worlo forlo
>>584765927He used to be a crack addict.
>>584765853>>584765976Night elves are made for torturing orcs and trolls and getting off to it
>caring about racials without trying to be in the .1% of playersI seriously hope you guys don't do this
>>584765746a little bit too thin at the waist for this build
>>584765481>>584765536Why don't you have sex instead of shitting up a thread about a video game with AI slop? You're a grown man
In 2019 classic it took Jokerd 79 hours to reach world first 60. Do you think the first person to 60 in Forever will do it faster? What do you think the time will be?
>>584766075Are you a femboy and offer yourself to us anon?
now that skelf and human got buffed nelf seems not so great anymore, especially since 10% crit will give you less and less the more endgame gear you have
>>584766060Guild leaders will care about racials regardless of skill level.
>>584766116people have beat jokerds record, people can aoe to 60 in 44 hours
>>584766075why dont you go fight in a war instead of playing video games?you are a grown man
>>584765746t&a should both be smaller and then it's perfect
>>584766075Dont (you) at me ever again you seething retard, I have posted a grand total of 0 generated image in /wowfg/'s history.Just because you are mentally ill, no need to assume everyone else is too.
>>584766183>turboautists retards ruining the game just like they did with retailwhy am I not even surprised
>>584766239trans gamer pov
>>584766239Me under her after I drank a illusion potion to turn my fat hairy self into a small boy and trick her
>>584766060>have your googled spec>do your rotation>have all your consumes>your guild is doing the same>WOW I'M A 99 PERCENTILE PRO PLAYER BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE (who isn't doing the above) pretty retarded honestly.
>>584766161don't care, still going nelfie and seducing orc men
>>584766189Jokerd did world first on a fresh release. You can easily beat that time on alt with a mailbox full of consumes, enchanted gear, and summon teams ready around the world.
>>584766116Wow, that's crazy. *phases into a different layer*
>>584766130you clearly wouldn't even know what to do with it otherwise you'd be having sex already. Virgin lmao
>>584766116I just know there will be a LOT more people aiming for world first this time around. There where only like 3 mages even attempting it on original classic. I wouldn't be surprised if a dedicated group of 5 autists end up getting it since dungeon quest xp is so high this time around.
>feral druids now benefit from weapon damageIs a two-hander going to be always better or does it scale one-handers to a similar level somehow?
>>584765765This is too disruptive and won't do shit.The cheatcode getting a standing desk + a comfortable stationary bike . Wow is also perfect for this, because it's low apm and time flies when you play . I've done 4-5 hour sessions on my bike while playing.
>>584763867>>584763928Brown trannies
>>584766335its without those things. and once you are in your 20s you are basically alone for the rest of the leveling phase at launch
>>584764617make them autismos capable of empathy only to participate in society but will gladly strap you to a chair in order to finish their experiment
>>584766507>Is a two-hander going to be always betteyes
>>584766116>not only will I not embrace the point of the game but I will also make it a competition to skip as much of it as I canbraindamage
>>584763867yeah
troll male x night elf femaleno fatties
chat do you think browsing darknest for 10 years from 10-20 made me gay
>>584763867nah its hotter when shes still in the alliance
>>584763867only by getting a human to 60 and getting your levels drained by a male orc or tauren, then restarting from 1 as a horde recruit
>>584766042True but they're weak to BTC though
>>584763904MY BROTHER
>>584764710Why do you have 2/5 improved fireball? 5/5 is a 20% damage increase for ffb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiRyiVgWj6g
>>5847647952% is a lot for a passive racial.
level 8 protection paladin used my bubble and flash of light healing and a health potion and still died to two murlocks what the fuck
>>584766942Playing world of gaycraft made you gay
>>584767232So he was afk and not attacking.
Current RestedXP leak site where?
/v/ros...........................
>>584767358in the toiler where it belongs
>>584767358it's literally the second result on google
Aggrend, your intended plans for ele shaman, hand them over...
>>584767156but the human racial is 2% as well
https://x.com/tomkektv/status/2111081426137616421thoughts?
>>584767465i dont see it
>>584767358This >>584767465, even the fucking AI overview is aware.
>>584767358restedxp only goes up to level 30, why would you want to use it?forever is so streamlined to the point you dont even need it anymore
>>5847675942% crit isn't 2% damage bro
I can't wait to see the next amazing changes honorary game director esfand will come up with next
>>584767694I want it so I do the quests that need you to travel all around the planet in an efficient manner. Yeah it won't help you do all the barrens but in the past I feel like the guide would stack me some quests that need you to travel to eastern kingdoms before any grey out etc.
>store mount disney controversy turned out to be a dud>orcs still no. 1 after the "nerf"doombros... what now?! I need to doom..
>>584767903>I want it so I do the quests that need you to travel all around the planet in an efficient manner.literally not necessary in forever anymore, did you even play the beta?
>>584767908WoWtoken, trust the plan.
>>584767725Dwarf and Tauren racials are 2% dmg at 100% Crit rate so never.Undeads crying their eyes out for nothing like the Horde players they are.
>>584767952yeah I got my water totem. weaving that together with other quests would save me an hour.
>>584767908You can solo elites as a warrior.If this isn't a sign of retail- I don't know what is.
>>584768038you can solo every elite as a warlock in vanilla
>>584768074That's why I specified warrior.Hunter and mages can too.
>>584768038>NYYOOOOOO IN MY DUNGEONGRIND ENCHANTED GEAR I CAN SOLO NON DESCRIPT LEVELING ELITES!!!!!!!!
Good Morning worlo
>>584768038You always could if you just used your 30mim cooldowns and a singular health pot.
>>584764491>>584764516Why do troons always react like this?>uhm you're obsessed sweaty! Just ignore the fact we shoehorn ourselves and our fetish into EVERYTHING and if you don't cater to us we will send you death threats and harassment but when you call us out we call you obsessed and that you can't stop thinking about us even when its US that are the invaders deliberately taking up mindspace. It's probably the number one thing making everyone hate troons. That and the child molestation shit they do.
It's time to thank blizzard for they perfectly balanced new battleground
>>584768038post your gear buddy, I bet you have full on blues from the lvl 20 beta period
>>584768145>>584768213You can solo Hogger as warrior too.Try that in vanilla lmao.
>>584763958can I save this?
>>584768289Now do it as fury or arms and not as the overtuned prot spec nigger
>>584768319So you admit prot war is retail tier difficulty now?
>wake up>no beta invite>unironically playing classic hardcore
>>584768381So you admit its not "warrior" but the specific spec that's overtuned?
Jesus would have given us 2-3 new classes. He also would have beaten the gold sellers with a whip.
Leather probably has to be he coolest looking gear in the game.
>>584768319>noooooooo you can't just be a tank outside of dungeons>only the guy in a dress who dies in 3 hits should be allowed to kill 10 mobs at once
>>584768626Years of clueless faggots have told me that leveling as tank is hard, slow and impossible! Just can't do it. Can't be done!
>>584768458No.https://youtu.be/J1_r5KLAGIQ?si=QcEdP0fOvGEW4dGz&t=318Replicate this on a classic era
elwynn foresthall of thanesruins of lordaeronwestfalldeadminesredridgeduskwoodwetlandsexcavation sitesouthshoredalaranscarlet monasteryarathistvthe drowned cityboat to ratchetrfd quests1k needlestanaris starter questsboat to rivergladesrivergladeskrol'dok stronghold halfboat back to tanaris higher level questszfboat back to rivergladesupper level of kroldok strongholduldamanhinterlandswplblackmaw holdeplscholo/strat/brd/makers terrace/lbrs/60
>>584768315Save it, it's all yours my friend!
https://youtu.be/7F-RIOLXamYOH NO NO NO NO
>>584768836>he's mitigating damage! MODS HES MITIGATING DAMAGE
I thought they gave dwarf shaman 2% crit rate but it's actually 2% crit dmg?? This is basically a nerf wtf it was easy as hell to always have a mace as an alliance shaman so I'm basically getting .2% dmg with my 10% crit chance now???
>>584769036>accentDROPPED
>>584768836>he was too shit to solo hogger on eraexplains a lot desu senpai
I just said 'safe journies traveler' after grouping with someone. Then I Sky Elf Slowfalled off the cliff overlooking wetlands.
>>584768862>scholo/strat/brd/makers terrace/lbrs/maybe horizontal progression means we can do something else for pre-bis.plsi don't know if i'm strong enough to grind strat again
>that one woman at blizzcon presented it in such a way that there is a horde back entrance for the IF dungeon>when aggrend was confronted about it recently, he said "it's where alliance back entrance to ragefire chasm is"why is he so based against noshoes
>>584769146It's a nerf until lategame yeah
>>584769180>journiespretty cute
>>584769036>I'm mad I can't win 100k streamer tournament >I'm mad that class balance in 1v1 duels isn't perfect>so that means forlo launch should be pushed back lmao
>>584769036these fags act like blizzard will magically stop balancing the game FOREVER after it releases
what does this even mean
ret pala or fury warrcant decide…
>>584769516you should be able to deduce the meaning from interior context unless you're not white
Any recommendation for healslut butt toy integration addons?
>>584769516For example mage portals. You're given a "portal" spell you can click and it expands to list all the locations you can portal to rather than having portals for all the cities separate on your bar.
>>584768145Madseason solo'd hogger with regular gear at lvl 12 as a warrior
>>584769660i wish my plug would vibrate everytime i got hit, but i guess blizzard isn't progressive enough to give serious gamers the playthrough they deserve.
Does horde or alliance have more appealing zones and quests? Didn't play the beta and I can't decide which faction to go with for launch.
>>584769740horde is and always has been an afterthought during development
>>584769740horde have desert zones reflecting their irl homelands (3rd world countries)alliance has fields, forests and mountains, reflecting European soil
>>584769740I think alliance only got improved in foreverdurotar is so orange it hurts my eyes and tirisfal looks like someone sharted over it, their only cool and improved place is mulgoremeanwhile lighting did wonders to elwynn / teldrassil and dun morogh is.. pretty much the same as always
>>584769712>regular gearSure lets see his gear and stats
>>584764387Coming from someone playing a broken race that is insanely over played, that is very funny. All undead players are low IQ
>>584769831which is exactly why horde is better and faster leveling, alliance has you constantly running around talking to actual npcs in different towns for quests giving you 100 xp, whereas in horde you just kill shit and are right next to every starting dungeon conveniently because they couldn't be arsed to make horde run far for their beginner content
>>584769740amazing how all these years later, they've managed to attract new players who know nothing of the game with Forever. They've accomplished something here
>>584770052there's a sucker born every minute.
>>584769884>their only cool and improved place is mulgorepicrel
>>584769036Streamers led the charge against the silly looking store mounts. Possibly the reason Blizzard backtracked. I think we owe them an apology.
>undeadfags on the forums arguing perception is more useful than cannibalismat this point I have seen it all
WAIT WAIT WAITBlizzard answered the community outcry about the shitty Dwarf racials by nerfing them and homogenizing them with Tauren racials and then they took that opportunity to make the pay2play race skyborne's racials pay2winBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584770294Perception is HUGE in PvP
>>584763596>shadow 18/0/33What the fuck is this build? What is it picking up in disc for 18 points?
>>584769212Despite a fresh coat of paint and an extra button for each class to press, this is foundationally vanilla at the end of the day. Feels like a lot of people haven't realized that yet. Hope everyone is excited to do the same boring tedious grinds we just did on anni servers a couple years ago. But this time you get to do the pvp rank every 4-5 months.
>Kite Vagash with the usual fence jumping>at some point he literally just pops out of existence, doesn't even phase out, but just blinks out completely
Night Elf Females run so cutely lol
>>584770404best part is shaman still can't be the skyborne on alliance so even more people are gonna not roll shaman now
Question is.How did Blizzard and Naughty Dog know about the Sky Elves?
>>584770652>shaman still can't be the skyborneWhich is a good thing
>>584770519>Hope everyone is excited to do the same boring tedious grinds we just did on anni servers a couple years agoyes. i am.
How hard are freshcels gonna dilate when the game receives regular updates and the meta fluctuates over time?
>>584769934>but he has better gearThe fact he has better gear through normal play at 12 is proof that it's easier
Sky Elf Male Arcane Mage Engineer Enchanter.My Self Insert.
Can't decide between Human Male Warrior or female night elf warrior
>>584771005i wish i could truly self-insert, but alas, i am a man who pretends to be a woman..
Aggrend here with a new hotfix patch coming through.
>>584771027anon.. those are too vastly different choices.
>>584771061>man who pretends to be a womanthat sounds made up, why would someone do that?
I was looking forward to tauren 5% hp racial and the hunter 10% hp talents. Why the fuck did they change it for 2% crit damage, 2% crit I'd take but not damage, that's fuck all???? I don't think any min maxers were going tauren for the 1% hit as the other damage racials were still better
What are toooooes??!
I'm blown away they have not made any mass exp nerfs, with all the new quests, exp buffs, dungeons and how much exp dungeon quests give you're going to be shooting up to 60 in no time which does not feel like something that should be happening in an mmo that is supposedly never going to increase the level cap. Do they want people raidlogging two weeks in or what?
Elves are so cool.
Sky Elves are real....How did Blizzard know about them? How did Naughty Dog, the maker of Jak and Daxter The Lost Frontier know about them?
>>584771125not really
what the fuck is this
>>584764780That's unironically a WC3 hero
>>584771429*FVVVVVVVVAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKKK
>>584771416fuck i cant unsee that now
>>584771628It is perennial.