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How does water purification actually work in Timberborn?When I take some water that is 50% badwater and pump it to a different pool using a filtering pump, does only 50% of the water get transported? Does the contamination stay on the other side? or is the full amount of water being transported and turned into 100% pure water?Can I purify a pool simply by putting a pump inside that pumps the water around inside the pool while filtering? Can I also use the badwater option to remove the contamination within a pool to the other side when using a slightly contaminated source?
>>584779012It's time for you to do a science experiment.
2.1 still not released, what gives? Its not like there's anything new
Last screencap before I uninstall the milestone mod. It's so stressful being on a timer the whole time, I just want to dick around and do stuff inefficiently.
>>584784508>milestone mod>being on a timer the whole timeyou might be autistic
>>584787805I thought that was a requirement for playing Py
>>584776872
>>584750887Second run I went with this which worked way better. It looping generally avoided most backups.>excited for trainsTrains are great but holy fuck they are so goddamn expensive. I've committed to them at this point but I really would recommend trying out caravans.
>>584788749They're also available much earlier, and don't need rails
>>584788749i'm surprised that didn't jam more since excess input blocks the loop
It's a good idea but you have the problem of the door being in the way, even then how do you extract the fission material?
>>584788931The rails are part of why trains are so expensive even past the intermatalics needed for the trains themselves.>>584789649Don't worry, I used that style of "splitter" everywhere till I got actual splitters and it was quite a bit worse than you would expect even without that.In general I think I had less issues with blockages simply due to the fact everything was slow as shit because well, pyblock.
>>584741307>Likely just running out of fuel.Can't be, the fuel tank is as big as the furnace itself, and is drip-fed at 0.05 l/s.It's pressurized to 59 atm, while also using a liquid relief valve before the variable valve to ensure that air won't hog the throughput.Furnace shows a steady flow of fuel, with none pooling in the furnace that would indicate it not working.>you don't have the fuel limiterThe var-valve is on the fuel line.>>584747461>>584747587You're not venting the water coolant, that's your mistake. Yes, everything that has coolant ports has some fresh water in it.Without it, exhaust heats up the boiler MUCH faster, overcoming the ambient cooling, and then some.I'm literally not using the coolant ports on the furnace, it's all just the piped exhaust heating everything up.I'd add the pre-heater to speed the startup, but… it already starts making steam within 20 seconds.It helps that I added a startup fuel spike to get it up and running faster, before switching to a "cruise mode".Also HOLY FUCK did I sleep on the air scoops. Quality SUCC at no additional power expenditure.Funny thing about them is that, when you reverse the airflow, by, say, putting them on backwards, you get suction going in the other direction.You could, for example, put a couple on your *-air heat exchanger, start moving, and it'll keep a good airflow through the thing.Mind you, it's good for things that move, but, in theory, you could put them on a velocity pivot/turret ring and let them spin.Or even attach wings/sails to make it a wind-powered pump. Is it stupid? Probably. Impractical? Possibly. Is it some silly fun? Sure sounds like it.>change exhaust disposal pump for a backward scoop, add one to air intake>speed went up from ~70 to 90+ km/h>now it regularly catches fire, tears itself off the rails, and launches itself high into the air like train IcarusI think I might be on the right track here.
>>584813039how the fuck did he make an elephant's foot
>>584780662It seems the contaminant is left behind when water is pumped (and vice versa) as you can see around the pump intake when pumping really low water levels. Also, the fact that most pumps keep stalling makes experimentation very difficult unless you want to enter dev mode and disable evaporation. So if a body of water contains just SOME contamination and is pumped for drinking water, the water that remains at the end is almost entirely red.So, I conclude that water cannot be purified by constant pumping, but even badwater from a badwater spring or during a badwater tide contains miniscule amounts of drinkable water if filtered.
>>584800116Cool, how many can you produce per minute?
>>584818452Enough to feed my shit factory for the day
factorio had been pooping itself down to 5tps for about 20 seconds every 7-8 minutes for weeks now but i've been ignoring and tolerating it but now that i did some research and testing it turned out it was just v-sync and now all the regular lag spikes are gonei hate nvidia garbage and unity garbage so much. WUBE is based but the technology companies are such useless worthless turds.i should've known from decades of gaming that standard operating procedure for troubleshooting is to always start with turning off v-sync and saved myself a month of rude laggy interruptions.
>>584820585we literally told you how to troubleshoot it and what the problem was
>>584821631what
>>584821967>>575822491
>>584788749>CaravansSky caravans definitely. They're sick, the whole animals section is fucking crazy. But that is a good call, low demand items could benefit with caravan transit without the need of rail system. I'm not at the point where I need to weigh my design choices based on what my cpu can handle, but legit need to start considering that. Getting to the end with this one.
>>584782737Then why 2.1.22 broke my SEx? Had to revert to 2121
>>584822825>Sky caravans definitely.Those are a long way off. I am talking just the basic ones you will get pretty quick.>low demand items could benefit with caravan transit without the need of rail system. Most items are pretty low demand honestly. I've absolutely overbuilt a bunch of shit but there's items where I'm only making a half or a quarter of a belt of them because a full belt would be absurdly massive. I've been working on getting logi science going but I've had to take a detour to make borax so I can upgrade my iron plate production as that's been dramatically underperforming.
>>584824449i'm surprised you're that build out and don't have borax yet, it's a huge bump to iron and aluminum plus basically every other metal laterguess i don't know how you actually source the stuff in pyblock. tar washing?though i'm not sure
>>584782737Still looking for a way to nerf belt weaving once and for all. Michael Hendricks must be stopped.
>>584826036I've just been rebuilding my base more or less so I've just been picking items at somewhat random and building them out. It's not really efficient but I'm having fun and learning more about paramaiterization and circuits than I likely would have otherwise.>guess i don't know how you actually source the stuff in pyblock. tar washing?Borax comes from ground borers which annoyingly means it effectively comes from iron and fish. Also the only way to get Antimony too.
>>584827727I honestly dont know how to beacon quantum processors without weaving..
>>584782737Why do you want them to rush the last "significant" update this game will ever get?
Behold! Oxygen.
>>584838512It was included?
>>584818301No badtider water cannot be filtered, contaminated water can, and even cantominated water gets "cleaned" the more good water flows into itjust put a water measuring stick and check the contamination level
should i start playing Oxygen Not Included?
>>584843404No.
>>584843404nah
>>584839678Considering I had to pull it out of water, I guess? But also no.At least I have better iron plates now.
>>584843404Play stormworks
>>584838512why does hydrogen combustion produce flue gas, won't this back up if you ever run a power surplus, and your right oil burner doesn't have any water
>>584850519>why does hydrogen combustion produce flue gasBecause usual hard mode dumbassery. It's whatever.> won't this back up if you ever run a power surplusI'm pretty much always on a surplus? The load is spread evenly across all the power providers so these ought to burn through the produced hydrogen eventually.I do have actual backup power elsewhere in case anyway.>and your right oil burner doesn't have any waterI noticed pretty quick thankfully when I went back to past down another one to make oxygen a bit faster.
>>584824449Now that is a beauty
wahts the big deal
>>584853869it's fun seeing other people's designs. Your Cadaveric Arum is a lot more open than what I came up with, though I did a lot more squiggles to fit two lanes in.
>>584853869>arum before splitterspyblock is a silly place
>>584854359Now build it in stormworks..
>>584855987you think you can use my own magic against me
>>584843490>>584849924why not
>>584855987That loading motion has always been so satisfying.What foolproof loading methods do you guys use to load crates onto trucks? The heaviest crates are so damn heavy that they buckle any cranes I make or tip over a truck full of weight blocks.
>>584862768
>>584862768When in doubt, use rope and pulleys.
>>584862768>turning a cargo container 90 degreesthings will tumble and spill out if you were to do that irl
>>584864082That's ok, I don't stormwork irl.
>>584862768>What foolproof loading methods do you guys use to load crates
>>584867886
I'm bored >.< should I buy satisfactory?
>>584871385Yes! You should always spend more money when bored!
>>584805037looks fine to me
>>584872264>You should always spend more money when bored!
>>584871385No difficulties in pirating it.
>>584856667YOUR MOVE.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_TbF5m5KpUhttps://files.catbox.moe/wwnlnr.xml
>>584881865
>>584881865LShape anon would be proud, you have made his final request a nuclear refuelable reactor gunbuster.
>>584881865was it actually established that reactors require refueling? I ran mine all day yesterday and it didn't use any fuel.
query meaning of former acronym /svgg/?
>>584883694Look at the rods you'll see decay when used.>>584885120Space and you can work out the rest.
>>584885414I did look at the rods they were at 1.0000000 after like 8 hours of running.
>>584885508Turn infinite resources off.
>>584885884it's career mode there are no inf resources
>>584886045Well, Your reactor clearly ain't on if your rods are intact. Any temp causes decay but there is a catch it depends on the moderation rods placement so show us that or post vehicle >>584885508
>>584886298I don't believe you. I think you're the shitposter who goes out of their way to ruin any stormworks discussion for some retarded psycho reason.
>>584886668Try harder next time
>>584885508nta but the vid >>584881865 shows fuel below 1.0unless there is some other way to reduce it?
Are all factory games just connecting building A to building B
>>584892972They did post the xml so I guess you could like test it
>>584881865I wish this was smaller i could fit it into a submarine or train
>>584895723I don't think you can make it more compact look at the video it's already as compact as it can be atleast the rod area.
>>584893332(A ⨁ B) to C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUDrSWEvNEIhttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/Fulgora_Replicators
>>584907205sounds annoyingbut a lot better than the existing fulgoran enemies mod
>>584867886>>584867986Ayyy I remember this one, cute as heck.>>584863318I'll give this a try, I was really hoping to keep my truck as compact as possible and have all the loading equipment integrated to the bed, but it isn't working out.In the meantime, here's my preferred method, the heli also has a 2-point winch underneath that works with a single button and automatically detects connections and adjusts the length of each winch.Also you guys should try putting a v-block engine on a 45 degree pivot, it's my favorite thing, post them if you have them.
>>584832127It's not like they're adding anything interesting
only one dude has done the daily puzzlemaybe because all of the other ones were very simple
>forgot to set any logging flag to maximum priority>couldnt expand the awuatic farms>drought came>starvation>down to 14>couldnt grow enough carrots in time>down to 2>one to work the pump, one to farm the carrots>back up to 3Okay, I got this.
>>584854764>fun seeing other people's designs100 on that one, i dont know how but im sure ill incorp the stuff i see here and there in some way shape or form. This block approach im doing is definitely grabbed from the older threads i've lurkedFinally got most of everything on the new floor model Im doing. Going to port the mall over and have it be in the middle, then the left and right sides will feed future needed materials and actually play the game.
>>584930098the child that started the recovery died of old age. You did it, gal. go rest now.
>>584914919Got it working, but I run into an issue where the winches will suddenly extend when they get really short. It happens to all at once and then they will eventually bounce back up. I'm lifting from the bottom and it runs the risk of flipping the container over.Does anyone know what causes that and how to get around it? I don't want to make the whole thing bigger if I don't have to.
@Clog make a mod for Oxygen Not Included that lets me vent atmosphere in the four cardinal directions to physically move planetoids around the star chart.Make it so planetoids can collide. Add a new base building that lets me fire dupes across space to other planetoids if they're directly next to each other, include automatic pathing to other planetoids.Make one or two mistakes and forget about them then fix them later.
>>584936090How big was your population before? I can't imagine needing that many pumps before you even have big storage tanks. Unless you had them doing all the hauling themselves.
>>58494662638-34 I think. The population collapsed again later because I couldnt get the buildings and ingredients for antidote ready in time, so the 8 contaminated beavers weighed me down heavy, limiting growth. all those contaminated beavers died before i could cure them.
>>584905606What is (Assembler 3 ⨁ Assembler 2)
I wish i could live forever so i could see what kind of /egg/s people will be playing 1000 years from now
>>584958660this but real
>>584958660it's still just factorio actually
>>584960613Huh?
>>5849658891,000 years from now, Factorio is still the #1 /egg/
/egg/torio with burner belts
>megabase>ups hovers around the 50-55s>drops to 30 on an artillery range update>decide to command kill all biters>ups goes back to hard 60Is command wiping biters good?
>>584789649Someone last thread posted this, Took a look at it today.Like why? The cooling set-up doesn't get to 30 to 40. Your using inefficient cooling with 5x5 engines while they will cool things they just don't do it well. You've got no lock for slider rail causing instant start up and your using modded blocks as vanity.Gears on the large pistons aren't even optimal.Your choking the boiler for no reason
>>584972168Forget image. On workshop it's called cc&cr nuclear refuelable reactor Some redditor is working on it.
>>584972168did you mean to replyi'm somewhat confused
>>584972168>>584972297>>584972378A closer look at the stormworks steam precooler..It's horrorly inefficient genuinely don't know why that redditor/anon is using it.
bimp
>>584881865Hey, Thanks for releasing this. The other guy just teases it and never posted the xml.
Man, I hate the stormworks developers sometimes. Hoses have such bad throughput
>>584982223Do you have this?
>>584983432I wonder if that would make the nuclear buster more compact?
>>584958660they will be even more complex but everybody relegates the design to their personal AI brain chip and only puts down blueprints genned by it
>>584982223Not my problem if you missed the XML after some guy paid for it.
>>584843404Worth tring.Just know you need to have a good tolerance for babysitting retards, and ideally the right kind of mindset to start engineering safety rails to keep them from killing themselves.
>>584971621As far as I know, biters should only really have an impact on UPS if they're actively being polluted. If they're all outside your pollution cloud I believe the nests should go inactive.
>>584960613yea but it will be openfac decomped with claude 10
>>584986013Some guy paid that's a new narrative string..
>>584982223I have all the .xmls as I made them and I will release them later today
What do you guys play after finishing factorio?
>>584995057play it again
>>584995057This >>584995281 with mods. And then DSP, Satisfactory, COI; in any order.
>>584995057I play lots of different games and genres, so I just play something else. As far as /egg/s go, I've played quite a lot of Satisfactory too, though several times less than Factorio. Building complex train networks in OpenTTD also scratches a similar sort of itch for me, though once I get to like 4-line mainlines actually working on the junctions beyond that tends to become unmanageable for me.
>>584995057Factorio with overhauls, other modded games with some sort of technical or logistical challenge (minecraft modpacks, etc ect) or automating something grindy like a shitty korean MMO or OSRS.I mean I play actual other games of varying genres and types, but for /egg/ relations, that's basically my rotation for the last few years.
>>584995057Finishing?Until the save physically stops working, there is no finishing
>>584992896A few years ago Steam switched to a shitty electron thing, and it runs like dogshit now.
>>584996016I like the space aspect DSP, out of these 3 which is most fun/interesting?
>>585000029that's not electron, that CEF
>>585002074They're all good, in different ways.Satisfactory works best in coop, there are a bunch of things you can do in parallel with optional research trees and exploration. The other two don't have multiplayer at all.DSP has the scale, seeing the stuff you've built from space and especially the sphere. And it's otherwise a streamlined factorio: you start out with construction bots, personal laser and shield, your guy can also smelt ore and eat science packs like a lab, etc. COI is closest to simulating an actual industry, most of your production goes into satisfying demand of food, medicine, maintenance parts, etc in a fragile pyramid that you have to keep balanced so it doesn't collapse. Another unique thing is that mining actually removes terrain, and dumping material adds to it.
>>585002074of those three I say DSPsatisfactory is actually borderline unplayable as a factory gameCOI is a colony management game with engineering elementsDSP is just Factorio but space and mega structures
Had a whoopsie in satisfactory where I accidentally depowered the sinks eating my polymer resin byproduct and thus had a fuel crisis, salvaged only by having built a massive slab of power storage cells. So I immediately built about four hundred more, and this obviously caused some nasty stuttering.So I ripped out about half of them, and now I'm sitting on roughly three hours of pure battery function before everything goes to hell in a handbasket. It works for now, but that only lasts until I expand more. Anyone know a giant power storage mod I can abuse to get ludicrous uptime without the entity count?
>>584992896Mmm, Beretta 92. Great choice.
>>584995057Riven. There is nice high quality 3d reboot
>>584776872I need a mod that does this when iron pipes transport molten iron
>>585004505If you stick them in some map corner shouldn't it have basically zero performance cost? I only remember lagging in satisfactory if I had a billion structures in render distance.
Reposting, because I sadly posted on a wrong, lewd general
Well done again excavator
>>585016512>/hgg2d/lol
Kinda screwed myself trying to build this wall top to bottom
Also gave a shot at decorating a bit my roads>>585016778Well can you blame a man, its basically one character off
>>585016408That would perhaps be more clever. Excuse me, I need to go retool my whole shindig.Recommendations for more consolidated power storage are still welcome.
>>585016408The only variable power production is geothermal. Consumption is variable on machines from the last phase, but you have to build so many of them that the differences even out. Why do you want so much power storage?
BoomFood
>>585017907The best way to not run out of power in Satisfactory is to just build more power generators. All you need for gas gens is oil and water if you use diluted fuel. Coal is the same. My one tip to prevent power failure is to have your power generation + miners all on one circuit so you can easily cut the SINGLE power line to separate it from the rest of your grid in case of failure. That way your power generation can run itself forever and allow you to slowly build it back up so it doesn't blow the breaker.
I take a weekend and you guys fucking dieI can't play py all the time you know
>>584838512>oil burners have a flue gas exhausthard mode is so retarded and Ihate itan insult to py
>>585033616i kind of like it, honestly? like i wouldn't hate it in normal mode. you'd just vent it most of the time but there's some nice uses for the stuff
>>585034105>you'd just vent it most of the time but there's some nice uses for the stuffit's an addition for no reason that doubles the amount of entities you have to create just to keep up with generating steam who cares if you can use it for something, you won't use flue gas until chem to make plankton, all other uses are a fucking hm meme
>>584907205I never understood the need to add enemies to a planet that has none
>>584987818it'll be open source in a few years no need for the bullshit
>>584995057modded factorio.
>>585025445
>>585042389Shit I've been found out
The thread is rotting away at the belt
>>585054232we have to make a loop with filtered splitters
Shapez 2 worth picking up? I have a lot of hours in factorio but I've never finished space age.
Shoulda looked harder at what starting cottonguts even takes. Time to pivot to Auogs for logi science. Oops.
>>585025445A little overbuilt maybe, hope you like rebuilding shit later.I'm still unsure about belting farms, too many products, too many places to go and thus too many ways to fuck upI'm seriously considering making a short railway to deliver farm products, but I'm struggling to find a way to make it worthwhile
Hey, /egg/If i made a game that's like stormworks but more engineering focus like sprocket/flyout but unlike those had voxel terrain like space engineers.What would you want it in?
>>585069406So long as you have some sort of sink for everything, you'll be fine. I also have it so overflowing animal feed products will go to the animal feed mixers before they go to the digestors. My only real problem is I underestimated just how much fuel gas it was going to make at this level of crop consumption and cramming in sugarcane and poppies might look a bit awkward
>>585056609it's okay, gets repetitive quickly though (unless you're gonna try building a MAM (make anything machine) with circuits, then it's interesting (i tried and failed, it's kinda tricky))
>>585071120>cramming in sugarcane and poppies might look a bit awkwardThis honestly, is what I meant by redesigning everything.Sadly I don't have a more up to date picture, but cramming medicine and snacks in was a PIA.I'm about to scrap everything and build again
What's it called when you have an existing paradigm, suppose the existence of a class of thing that could change that paradigm, and adjust to account for its existence?Like, if someone in 1800 imagined military aviation would be a thing and adapted the army to be able to respond to it.
>>584936552>the winches will suddenly extend when they get really shortStupid winches be like this. I've had the same problem with using them for fuel rod loading.Had to scrap a design because they stretched like crazy and failed to keep the rods high enough to clear the hatch.Solution? Avoid using winches for heavy stuff without ample tolerance, simple as.Consider putting the connecting part on a track, and merge both sides so you get more oomph out of them AND keep it symmetrical.
>>585074807Foresight?
>>585077459neat and clean.
>>584881865>>584882034>>584887045Been talking with stormworks autist on the discord according to them rods gwt extremely radioactive at 0.000 and overtime produce less heat.
Stop rotting
>>585100469I'M BUSY HERE.
>>584882034>>584881865hooking a steam turbine to a water boiler produces the same results also, and its energy positive
>>585070424probably but only if you like my infinifactory game
>>585039721What mods do you guys suggest? What are some good mods that chop it up real good? Not like 4 input -> 1 output type deal
>>585107451nullius
>>585107451Come join us in Py, I promise it's fun!
>>585107950He wanted something where there weren't half a dozen inputs in a single step. Gen1 robot frames need you to put in 6 or 7 inputs in a 2x2 assembler>>585107451I think Angel Bob's has a lot of multistep processes that don't take THAT many inputs. Of course a few are still like that.Nullius is still really good, though
>>585109837I think he wanted something that doesn't just have one boring output
>>585074090>>585071120got back in the game just to show my little mess of a food related factoryI'm already thinking of scrapping and redesigning the whole sorting part along, along with remaking for advanced medicine
>>585110534what, like byproducts?
>>585108063https://mods.factorio.com/mod/pymodpack?from=searchis this the one?>>585107950>>585109837Does any of these work well with space age?>>585110534What I meant was not just extra steps to insert items into assemblers to make more stuff but I guess that is factorio in some sense... Maybe some cool space stuff involved? New energy/buildings?
>>585112330>Does any of these work well with space age?no.
>>585112330>Does any of these work well with space age?
>boot up spengies 2>load old save>planet is gone, base is now floating and slowly rotating in space, there's atmospheric hue, planetary ring and asteroids, but no surface>start new game>be greeted with an AI voiceover>pick up a gun >start blasting >game crashes10/10 will be a great game in 5 years
>>585112330Only bad overhauls work with space age.
>>585121943>"So anyways I started crashing!"
Ok, I guess these are all the stations needed for the food factory, not too bad I guess, actually doable with networksMight even be worth doubling it for each input
Alright chat, nearly done filling up this area, and thinking of how to connect this wall and redo the rail ramp, And eventually probably redo this railyard as well, do you guys have any creative suggestion of how the new design should look like? What could work well here?
>>585101654i wonder if they'll ever fix the fact that you're strictly better off just refining more plutonium instead of bothering with isotope shuffling
>>585131040They have a nuclear rebalance in breaking_changesbut yeah only plutonium 239 is worth reprocessing and I'm literally burning the 241 and 242 while burning the excess 240 above 100 units because I have no need for it other than use it to reprocess 239
Is it even possible for a game to ever supersede Factorio as the definitive /egg/ game? What would it be like?
is Stormworks an actual good game or is it just automotive autism simulator
>>585131384The latterStormwanks gameplay is just a glorified series of fetch quests that you AFK between
>>585131175where's that listed? the only stuff i can find is some minor uranium separation changes and stuff with decay
>>585131723>where's that listed?https://github.com/pyanodon/pyalternativeenergy/pull/125start from the x4 plutonium speed buff and cherrypick from there
>>585131805>all that stuff about nuclear tiers and cost reductionshuh, neat. i wonder if that's enough to make nuclear actually decent for poweri guess reducing energy costs on the shuffle is nice but it doesn't really help the issue since the peroxide costs are the same and none of the byproduct ratios change
>>585133098>huh, neat. i wonder if that's enough to make nuclear actually decent for powerlolI at least am happy with power plants not being able to be beacon'd and eff moduledit's gonna make producing power a lot less silly and wood biomass is gonna stop being #1Although to be fair, mox is actually power positive, especially if you do a full reactor, even in py2
>>585133098There's also the spoilage mechanic that's fairly interestingif you play with spoilage enabled uranium "decays" within a set amount of hours into its lower energy isotopesonly caveat is that spoilage in py is absolute garbagio to play with at the moment and those istotopes can get up to 10 IRL hours to decay which is suboptimal
>>585092153
>>585134016isotope decay is only there as bait, to make you enable the optionand then you'll suffer all the bullshit of spoiling animal products, cellolose, native flora, tree seedlings, etc.
>>585134367yeah it's beyond asscould be nice to have a mod that only enabled spoilage for that at least
Why does it always come back to theses things when it comes to efficiency?
>>5851345801,000 years of torque?
>>585134580Sweet from the depth days of chaining turbos
>>585134580
>>585071120>Fuel gasGas boiler into steam is a good way to void it if you already hooked it into your main fuel gas line and STILL have excess. I use the steam to make water for my city/farms which seems to balance out nicely. Worst case you could vent the steam if you absolutely can't find anywhere else to use the fuel gas.
>>585143605Yeah I got a setup at my power plant, I just wasn't expecting it
>>585157173Fucking this. played Nullius before this run (before was generic pyanodons) and fuck me if it isn't back tracing all of your products into one giant as fuck chain. First cascade failure yesterday. Got it back up and running tho. Reorganized the mushroom struts to not be so bad, and can almost turn the arum plants back on. I want some sort of fail safe incase we suddenly cant satisfy power demand... which WILL happen before i get to geothermal..
>>585162928Best part of Nullius is when you unlock life and start inverting your production chains
This will be more than enough for chem.7 GW out of 4 seeps, no modules, just 600 units of crude and t1 oil plants. I had to cave in for a t2 turbine, but that's relatively cheap all things considered.If I'm feeling fancy later I can speed up the seeps and increase production and efficiency beacon the plants to squeeze a few extra gigs of power.Now I just gotta build everything for real
>>585162928>I want some sort of fail safe incase we suddenly cant satisfy power demand... I built a fuckton of fishbines to tide me over most of the time. Spikes in their power let me build up steam when needed vs having to just scale up everything for more power.>which WILL happen before i get to geothermal..Geothermal in pyblock is incredibly cursed.
>>585173345They got the industrial decorative dlc pack
>>585173345Well I'd say it did a good job.
Holy shit are we back?
Meanwhile, some jap studio copied your homework.
give me the rundown
>>585183720We've never been so back>>585173345Thank god 4chin went down because it took me that long to see what was wrong
Rebuilt my trap door reactor concept slightly smaller now.
>>5851880It has fork attachment at front and the internal crane mount.Need to figure out how to make it shorter
>>585188064So my biggest gripe with it is the overhead crane needs to be less tall and it's length but I reckon there's a reason for its length
>>585190431You would be right. It's as long as its is to hold the container inside of it in off position without unloading container.May need to extend it for trapdoor internal
>>585166907Thanks for the warning n suggestionCurrently drowning in copper and getting more shroom iron. Mall expand, move fishes, and do things in between to get simple circuit going
Another fucking proof that PHP is garbage and the only good language is C. We should build our websites in C and force everyone to compile them on the spot if they want to access them.
>>585191823gcc framework when?
>>585191823If your so great tell me how to make gears and crankshaft physics in ue5 so I can make a egg game
>>585192365UE5 is C++ and C++ is trash.*You're welcome.
>>585192365You don't want a generic physics engine for gear meshing. Such mechanisms should be abstracted.
https://coigame.com/Blog/cd-57Next upcoming update for Coi is pretty big.
>>585184620if you like shallow pretty 3d train diorama games it's good. if you want to build actual complex transport networks, go play OpenTTD
>>585184620Its nice but undercooked in some areas.Insane how CoI has a so much more satisfying train game than a proper logistics game.
>>585196129i just want them to balance contracts and figure out a reason to go to endgame. contracts are too OP and solve every issue you have within an hour of playing
>>585196396I disagree somewhat with the diorama thing, it does feel rather easy atm, towns do grow quite fast and industry spawning managed to make the map feel small.But in terms of cargo delivery it did feel like it can get a lot more complex than one anticipated.
>>585197128The only 'complexity' is that eventually every cargo has to go everywhere.But there's no complex pathfinding or signaling for trains, they get stuck in ridiculous situations.They still don't have dynamic pathfinding for trains, load/unload conditions or able to synchronize schedules for departures like in fucking OpenTTD which had stuff like this since it released 22 FUCKING YEARS AGO
>>585196129Well, good to know about that before I teared down everything, actually might be quite handy, and make things a lot simpler for station design, even the food stuff I was planning on.
>>585197620Meanwhile, doing some landworks paving the way forwards
Rolled 239 on the first run of the particle accellearator.Chem sci is done, I already had everything else. Surprisingly easy all things considered.Protip: do not do like I did and delete 240only run your particle accellerator for POx when you're low on 240 actually, because it's exponentially more efficient on plutonium peroxide. You're gonna save on a TON of hydrogen peroxide, which is extra annoying to make before chem with the chrome sand recipe. Void 241/242 instead.
>>585195948>>585195948I want it all..I want to recreate them as accurately as possible akin to their real world function eg. pully string snap the cable and whole thing crashes down.
>>585200295238*also I was too fast in building this in my actual save that I didn't manage to get far enough into py2 to research oil2 so I'm just using the shitty 1K C° steam recipe that only gives ~2 GW instead of the 2K one on these plants for 7 GW for the t2rbineAlso change your milestone mod to only check once every 600 ticksyou're gonna get the milestones a minute later, but the milestone mod fucking EATS UPS like you wouldn't believe, it was somehow hogging more than py on its own
I have installed pyanodons: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/pymodpackany other mod to improve the experience? First time modding here
>>585204763
>>585204763Around when should I start doing belts? I'm still doing hand fed direct insertions at the moment. Just unlocked assemblers.
>>584854359Based OCcreator.I'm going to make several of dollars by posting this on Xitter.
>>585092153Are you sure? I think there's just something wrong with my camera.
>>585204763squeak through and far reach are two gotos for any modded factorio i dofactory search, even distribution, recipe book, rate calculator, and factory planner are all very convenienti consider mute factory music critical to py but maybe you don't agreedisco science is always a good modinserter config is unabashedly a cheat mod but i still like it
>>585210685Do you have the build/save?? I'd love to know if it's sealed unit or unsealed.
>>585218123I've got a sealed unit right here for you pal
>>585218191>>585218123Ignore the troll, yes according to the discord your supposed to use a sealed reactor there is a bit of disagreement on the following..If weight blocks block radiation If normal blocks doIf radiation is a field or gases But they. Also say to seal up a reactor
>>585217727add auto deconstructand Cybersyn, if you want to use trains in Py
wots all dis denhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4618810/Geareo_Demo/I might be too employed to play this. Workshoppasloppa isn't that exciting to me, strandbeests or not
>>585196129>full mixed transport support (trains, trucks, sorting plants with belt inputs)>more extensive recyclable tracking allowing localized recycling>more extensive overlay including pollution/radiation tracking>trains get special wagons and station to handle radioactive material (added to base game just in case you are a little bitch about the dlc)>trains also get more accurate activity stats tracking>fixed the stuttering product render on belt to be smoother>made the game playable through a web API because why the fuck notI'll have to revise my logistic planning for that update i guess
>>585217727>far reachDon't be a fucking retard
>>585229207That and Even Distribution are very convenient for the Py early game. You simply do not have enough iron for belts and inserters until about an hour in, even running all the provided drills nonstop.
>>585228623Yeah don't get your hopes the gears aren't physics simulated hence why I was trying to make physics simulated gears in ue5
>>585229504this nigga is gonna get to py1 and then drop out
>>585229596Like 95% of players I imagine. Is that a reason to make the start more annoying?
>>585229695it's a reason to just not botherniggas who go "wow I never played with a mod before :3 waow let's start pyanodon! UwU" waste my time and theirs
>>585195948>relative inclined plane>unfolding inclined plane>rotary inclined plane>inclined plane>double inclined plane>sliding inclined plane
wow I never played with a mod before :3 waow let's start pyanodon! UwU
>>585190664How can you make that shorter?
>>585231840I think it's to do where the track is, did you design the door or is that anons gunbuster door?
>>585232205I didn't design this door did the reverse engineering but his was better took things into consideration i did not.But it's just the method of moving the casket out of the reactor
>>585229509>physics simulated gear meshingThis nigga thinks everyone's got a supercomputer to accurately simulate a complex gear train.It's good for a small meme project, but absolutely SHIT for anything beyond a simple gearbox.This >>585195948 anon is right.Abstract the meshing, have a wide variety of gears, racks, screws, and possible combinations.>>585231840Loading the rods from the side eliminates a lot of otherwise-wasted space.Extremely dependent on your reactor layout, though.That said, the biggest obstacles to compact reactors are the control rods.Rods afaik can't be sealed halfway, so the WHOLE thing needs to be in the tank.
>>585227107>CybersynIs this necessary? I'm playing on 2.1 experimental atm and I do plan on using 1-1-1 trains>>585217727Thank you I've installed squeak through and far reach :3
>>585235727No, it's just a helper for huge train networks. You don't need to use trains at all in Py, and rely on caravans instead.
>>585191140Everything up to simple circuits is pretty well the tutorial. My only suggestion is don't spend your first few on splitters despite how nice it would be to have em, some of the machines to speed up making the boards need them.
>>585233032Well, Anons is using a double tank design for refuelling and rads control but like if you look at the pictures his rails are very tall
I just completed blue science, this game seems pretty easy. Should I try this Py thing?
>>585196129Now that I'm thinking, will they also allow for mixed liquid in pipes?
>>585241727Yes :3 its so cute and theres so many recipes!!
How should one clear ash early game in pyanadons? Should I just leave it in the machine and clear them manually? I'm talking about burner mining drill/stone furnace setup. currently I'm still hand feeding everything
>>585196129Btw they didn't give any estimation on when this update will be dropping right?Just a vague "Before update 5" which I'm not even knew was thing.
>>585252859Only a vague "in a few weeks", could be 2 could be 4
Trying some new mods in ONI. Most important is "rephysicalized", which adds a ton of conservation-of-mass autism. (It's not going great, could be worse.)
>>585252093shove in a box until ash separation then centralize its disposal
>>585252093If you're handfeeding anyway then just handremoveEventually you'll get ash separation which unfortunately has a massive footprint and a lot of ore byproducts you'll either have to fold in or clear out
>>585252093>>585273796if you're not pyblocking you can use a much smaller and less complex ash separation that simply burns off the soot, but that doesn't come online until the start of py1until then, yeah, clear it by hand until it's too much of a pain to do, then set up automated box-shoving for anything that constantly runs (power, miners, smelting)i'm half-ish way to logi science and i still manually empty most of my assemblers because they just don't generate enough ash to care about. drones will handle it eventually, it's fine
>>585283621Building up logi science has been... something.
>>585262312Barely keeping things together, it feels like.Many of you sadists will be pleased to learn that combusting generators require oxygen. Many of you masochists will be over the moon to learn that doing so produces ash. "What is ash good for?" I hear you jumping up and down asking, excitedly. Well. You can heat it up to seven thousand degrees Fahrenheit to get liquid carbon and hydrogen. Or it can be used as filtration medium, which is almost reasonable except I've already got 8 tons of the stuff for barely any power produced. Or you can feed it to sage hatches. This, I am thinking, is the way to go, since food isn't exactly plentiful. (I cranked most of the difficulties up to medium-hard.) So. Power is not great. We have spied through the telescope a swampy asteroid which will likely have plug slugs. Of course feeding them requires metal. Which the planet has in volcano form. But reaching the planet requires metal. Well, Ronivan's Legacy reduces metal output even with the metal refinery to 50%, and Rephysicalized trades 2% for a different metal. And heavily reduces worldgen mass. So a very substantial fraction of all remaining aluminum is being smelted to get more metal.Of course I have no gaskets for steam turbines, so taming the volcanoes will be extra interesting. (I will simply dump water on them.)
i'm tired boss
>>585295731>Ronivan's Legacy reduces metal output even with the metal refinery to 50%just tie a rubber band around your ballsack anon
>>585283621>set up automated box-shoving for anything that constantly runsEven if you don't use the ore, ash sorting does improve the storage compression greatly. Once you have splitters to filter the ash from belts, and to prioritize burning the resulting coal dust. A couple iron chests will last until py1 when you can burn down ash into nothing, if you choose to.
>>585304010RIP science buffer
>>585295731Bro is playing pyanadons in ONI
>>585311973Science butter?!
>>585315220it takes about as much time just to design and build all of the blocks™ in seablock as it does to research the lategame sciences so rather than building 1kspm of red science it's easier to make 100spm and buffer it until you're ready to turn the labs on
>gonna get my small ramps backSomething I rarely see anons commenting about here, but there seems to be some quite wild CoI mods out there to explore.
Studless lego bricks are so fucking lame. I can't believe anyone still buys any technic sets.
>>585196396>been trying to get into this>interested in all the different transportation methods>every single video is just trainstrainstrainstrains>nobody talking about trucking or aviation, it's just fucking trainsI don't think this game is for me.
I want to refine OREwhat is the egg I have never heard of you can put on a gleaming silver spoon and stick into my mouth
>>585322694You want to boil rocks?
>>585323236yessssssss
>>585323254Anything else?
>>585323450not that I can articulate at this point in my journeyI guess uhhh gradations of output quality but that seems like a fairly niche design decision so not holding my breath
>>585323525How is it fun?
>>585324109that's the game designer's problem not mine
>>585319357The game might actually be for me, I'm not sure yet. I have no fucking idea what I'm doing but I will push forward slowly.
>>585315874A lot of the mods are "QoL" cheats, vibecoded, chinese nonsense or a combination of the threeThe few actual mods worth a damn are very much in their infancy
>>585323525i think this is what angel/bobs was about
>>585334493didn't hit the itch for me as much as I'd hope for
>>585334974modded minecraft?
What's up /egg/? Has SpAge got an outstanding mod already?
>>585334217And COI Extended was killed by the game devs
>>585334217>A lot of the mods are [...] chinese nonsenseThat shithole and its 'inhabitant' doesn't get nearly enough hate.
>>585338061china owns you
>>585338116China doesn't even own Taiwan.
>>585337940>And COI Extended was killed by the game devsAre you still pissed that the devs told you to keep your ego in check and shove your hallucinated copyright entitlement up your ass, keranik?Btw how goes your ideas of a factory/RPG game? any progress on that front?
cringe
Idk how to deal with ash in py and its pissing me off :3
>>585340536you should get the ash to wood turdyou definitely will not regret the ash to wood turd
2.1 OUT
oh good that means chode green needs to fucking get his serious propeller hat on and get recipe tweaker out for 2.1
>>585315220Margarine. (Yuck.)>>585312679Yeeesss.>>585307252No. I will not do that. Instead I will put everyone in a tin* can and go to collect the free metal, which will surely be an uneventful trip with zero wacky episodic hazards or philosophical intrigue.*uranium
>>585340536rush splitters, then use them to filter the output belt
>spage was released 2 years agowhat the flip
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-449
>>585344738I'm thinking a 10x technology multipler run :3 how should I spice things up for 2.1?
>>585345582>Fluid mixing preventionis this gonna fuck up my Glassworks?
>>585346294you can still sushi pipe without a problem in 2.1, it just gives you a warning when you don't do it on purpose.
>>585345582raigards fluid issues forum post is still "assigned" rather than resolved so I guess they're giving up on figuring out anything clever and just leaving fluids as is
Unironically how do you not get bored to death by the early game in a 10x run?
>>585295731Captain's Log, stardate uhhh cycle 129. Also I'm not a captain yet. Where was I.An alien symbiotic microbe from outer space has taken over nearly the entire colony without anyone even noticing. Symptoms include unusual productivity and mild stress, but if left untreated for several cycles all benefits are lost and the stress increases to an unmanageable 50%. It was only from increased stress levels that the "symbiote" was detected. Unlike most microbes, the symbiote is perfectly adapted to high radiation levels of outer space and indeed multiplies prolifically in the presence of radiation. It does die in oxygen, which we are woefully short on. Nearly every inch of the asteroid's surface is covered in a nearly-invisible blue alien goo that has penetrated into the very heart of the colony. The colonists will likely not survive.Current attempts to ameliorate this emergency:- quarantine our one shine bug to inhibit growth- attempt to develop a vaccine- dump CO2 into a beeta hive, the frozen planetary core, and increase oxygen production- release chlorine from storage and dispense bleach stone- construct a large massage clinic (and power to run it...)- maintain duplicant in printing podThe course of the disease seems slow enough to allow the colony to limp down a road filled with corpses.
>>585348789don't?
>>585348789spaghetti :3
>>585349019do you not breathe oxygen?
It's cold here
>2.1 outOkay, guess it's time to finally start another runAny good Planet Mods came out recently?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF1zCD7NwNYFactorio's come a long way
>>585349452Just the dupes, ha ha. CO2 was suppressing O2 production but why would THAT be a massive colony-ending problem.
>>585349708>Any good Planet Modslol>that came out recently?lmso even
>>585349480it's usually cold at the peak
>>585334217I briefly checked and there are some that are interesting, like the one with auto mining designations, that will neatly take out every bit of ore with minimum unnecessary excavating, avoid land slides and getting stuckI think possibly the same mod, but one adds corner slops mining designation, another one adds water walls
>>585348789>>585345601I'm starting to think maybe 10x technology is a bad idea with lazy bastard
>>585357416early game belts are pain in the ass, just hand feed chests for the mall
>>585349864What is the point of remaking the same trailer for the 3rd time?
>>585366950Europeans are weird like that
>>585366950It's an audiovisual bullseye into what factorio is. Excellent trailer, perfect.
Now to wait for a handful of mods that haven't updated yet
>>585349708I recently started a run and I'm pretty happy with it so far, do I need to worry about upgrading? I just started designing a ship to take me to fulgora it says>2.0 save games will load, but some changes (such as the circuit Input/Output split) may break your existing factory designs.>Once you've updated, blueprints and save games cannot be downgraded to 2.0.>We recommend backing up any saves and blueprints you care about.>Most popular mods have been updated during the experimental period, but some you rely on may not be ready yet.how do I not update and play the version I have currently installed via steam?
>>585368641right click the game in your library > Properties > Game Versions and Betasbut if you just started a new run you should be fine upgrading to 2.1 and can experience the new platform mechanics
>>585368641Unless you have extremely complicated circuits set up, going from 2.0 to 2.1 likely won't break anything
well it disabled almost every mod I use so I guess I have to wait
>>585369434and now, since I tried to update the mods that had updates available, I am stuck with half of them working and half not, so I can't use either version. fuck me
>>585369741You can just manually update the info.json inside the mod, to mark it compatible with 2.1Unless the update specifically broke how the mod functions, but that is rare.
>>585371285NTA but there is one mod I use where the change to how fuel prototypes are handled in code has fucked it, so now I'm stuck waiting
>>585366950There are new graphics and also the entire trailer is scripted anyways, so its probably easy for them to make.
>>585368641>I just started designing a ship to take me to fulgorayou can make some really cool ship designs with flippable inserters
>>585366950Marketing. People watch the new trailer causing Youtube to start recommending it to more people.
you know what I just thought aboutI've been in a very bad thunderstorm recentlyand I just realized fulgora would be so fucking loud
>unlock upgraded power connectors>daisy chain side by side constructors >cable clips with the machineThe maker of this game is evil
>>585393004dumb. The maker of the game is dumb. it's a dumb game.
>>585393004They don't play their own game
>>585393004it's a rushed early access game what do you expect
>>585393004so funny and quirky!but serious, if they actually enforced not having noclipping, especially for belts, the game would be even worse
>>585397030
>>585397030the takeaway here isn't "they should enforce clipping", it's "they should fix their models so this extremely common layout doesn't put cables through the indicator light"
>>585401154>implying anyone on /egg/ isn't a hardened neo nazi with multiple confirmed kills
>>585393004>the boundary box for some machines doesn't account for animation, so machines clip into each other if you place them next to each other>some buildings are offset by 0.5m by default just to mess with youThis game really tests my compulsive need for symmetry and alignment.
>>585402596haha but you can pet the doggo!!!
>>585393004I have yet to see a single post in this general that makes me want to play this game. it is always complaints
>>585403851it's fine. the construction/exploration loop is fun the first three times.
>>585401154That image has been overused to the point where its meaningless now, and also doesn't even apply to the anon you replied to.
>restarted on satisfagtory for the umpteenth time>random nodes>all normal rarity (always found way too many impure on random)>1.25x parts to compensate for cheating>still on phase 1>already realizing I drastically underestimated how hard it's gonna scaleon the plus side I'm looking forward to building even huger ass stuff than usual
Finally got my first space platform, what planet should I head towards first?
>>585408774Head to Nauvis first
>Even Distribution crashes my game nowAwesome Game, Great Job!Anyone got the 2.1 Even Distribution working? I don't want to play a game of backgammon with my mods
>>585416656https://lappro.net/static/even-distribution_2.1.1.zipalternatively do it yourself:https://github.com/321freddy/even-distribution/pull/62/
>>585416919Thanks.
Yeah everybody died. I restarted. Things are going much better.>lettuce is free food, so rush that>also discover that meal lice outputs CO2>don't print so many crew this time>use cool slush geyser to stave off heat from lazy lettuce farm>discover that oxyferns are boosted by intense light (but misread and lit them like a thistleblossom.)I didn't start with a rancher this time, so the pips got loose into the edge of the radioactive biome, where they found & planted some saturn critter trap seeds, to which Diseases Expanded adds "hungerms" that they emit just like sporechid zombie spores, but instead they double your food consumption for a few cycles. (Only Tasha got sick, but there's still a bit of a mess to clean up.) Saturns were pretty boring and definitely benefit from this complication. And (and this looks to be unintentional) critters can be infected, doubling their metabolism. It would be cool to make a ranch taking advantage of them.
Excess meat gets put back into the ocean.
>>585426917you can sinkhole water but can't vent steam???
>>585393004It was inevitable. The models were not made with daisy-chaining in mind at all, as such on many of them the power connectors do not have a clear line to the connector of another machine in the same line. I don't see any way they could have fixed this other than changing every single machine model with issues. I'm sure that's way more work than such a minor feature could be work.
>>585419648RIP Fun game, I wish theyd do more element level stuff, but the direction they're goin is cool too. Dino Wrangling was objectively fun.The organization begins.
>>585429335HM is stupid.it's just stupid.
>>585426917I highly doubt you need that many inserters for one single composter, unless pyblock makes them 150 times faster. By default it should do like 1 jerky a second.
>>585445332they look enabled, and you can see them all sitting idle
>>585184368I really wish they would copy some of theirs in return
>>585184368water, japan
>>585408774doesn't matter, without guns you won't make itonce you have guns, gleba
>>585454340he doesn't even have thrusters, that's just a science station
>the space ships are also factoriesWube are such geniuses.
>>585463634it's factories all the way up
>>585429335>>585442339Yes hard mode is just dumb. I do like that's the issue and not this dumb roundabout way to get rid of meat.>>585445332>>585446219I have way too many. I was basing it off my other composting setups where I do actually need a absurd amount of inserters. I really should return to this and add a couple more and feed them all only into a couple of boilers.
>>584776872somebody got their pipes mixed up
Building my own trapdoor reactor
Is youtube recommending videos from some V2 rocket autist to anyone else? He's all up in my grill lately.
>>585470521You've put some effort into that container. It's never been established that a nuclear powered vehicle would ever require refueling so I'm adding this to the weird stormworks shit that doesn't make any sense pile.
I think I've watched too much factorio youtube videos and lost the ability to spgahetti. Also have a bad case of ratio brain
>>585473541Wished I hadn't delete my old saves. It was quite soulful. Nowdays its just very generic and bland, that little green science bend is like the best I can do
>>585473541play overhauls.
what else?>>585473541you aint ratio brained until all your builds begin in yafc and you go through at least two possible module configs
>>585472867Ooo but the number's ticking down! You're gonna have to rip it out in 55 years!
Man why the fuck do cottonguts not take themselves as modules? I expect this will become a trend too. ugh.
>>585497271>builds begin in yafcDoes not work for 2.1 and SEx
I saw news about 2.1 and decided to try a new palythrough, since I haven't played since Space Age release. And once again I am reminded that Factorio has the worst fucking controls and UI imaginable. It's just silly that I need to pause and go to hotkey options to check how to unselect currently selected building (it's fucking Q).I hope one day someone will make a game as deep as Factorio, but with proper strategic camera, UI and controls.
>>585504978>I expect this will become a trend too. ugh.far as i know that's the only time it happensstuds are kind of a nuisance though, plus it means later on you have to mk2+ both regulars and studs
>>585506860why not
>>585508816what? q is very convienient
>>585511040>far as i know that's the only time it happensFucking really? I'm glad but man are they annoying.>studs are kind of a nuisance though, plus it means later on you have to mk2+ both regulars and studsAt least they more or less loop into themselves so I likely can use bots or something to some extent whenever I get to mk2s.
>>585517213In the majority of games if you selected something with a left click, you can cancel it with a right click. It's now an established control scheme, just like WASD is for movement.
>>585517882so is placing and destroying objects with the mouse which occupies both of the mouse buttons?
>>585518320If you have something selected then you left click to deselect, then left click to destroy. Late game doesn't use left click for deconstructing anyway.
>>584813039>>584813695The hole added oxygen and made a furnace.
>>585518690I like being able to deconstruct things while I'm holding onto something else, I'm already pressing Q all the time anyway
>been playing more transport fever 3 lately>quickly realizing you build nothing but trains all over or you just make zero profitStarting to see why nobody is playing this shit
https://thepicardsong.ytmnd.com/>>585419648Taking things way slower. Turns out 200°F salt water is hot so I ran some cool slush through it to cool it down and then dumped it in space. But this was a mistake because water is much more precious...? Well, the lettuce makes mud, tons of the stuff, but still hot of course. (Feels like a mistake of the mod dev, perhaps not thinking about the recent bleachstone req removal...?) I built a counterflow heat exchanger, but with a poverty-inspired twist: the liquid sits in the pipe until the sensor reaches the hot temperature. The desired efficiency is easy to reach this way.The alien goo is very easy to deal with if you know it's there. (One of the mods changes ore scrubbers, they're basically instant & dupes pick it up. Pretty sure vanilla's the opposite? Yes, they're quite worthless in vanilla) Safe excursions to the surface depend on bleachstone... and keeping Captain Jean Luc Picard locked inside: he is a FILTHY duplicant who refuses to wash his hands! But asking "What Would Picard Do" has been an occasional source of inspiration.
>>585532570P.S. 'aurichalite' is the way to go for refined metal. You get 80 total instead of 48.P.P.S. Also a mod makes overloaded wires spark dangerously like a mad boop.
>>585528459that's the conclusion I came toliterally every time I had a money issue in my saves, no matter the difficulty, the solution was always passenger trainsthen money became practically unlimited and all challenge was lost
>>585533070I see stuff from this game and all I think is that I should boot up COI again
>>585533070>passenger trainsI haven't done any of those yet, I was setting up cargo trains. I also realized that trams are a great way to move stuff shorter distances. Hopefully the train thing only applies to early game because I really, really want to set up semi and aviation routes. I'm only in like 1904 though and I've never played one of these games before. I do have a lot of time in Factorio and Satisfactory though factory games aren't too applicable here. I am really enjoying the game though.
>>585533070May as well play Mini metro
>express delivery run>speed through vulcanis and fulgora with some planning >get to gleba>lose all motivationI despise having to build cold starts into everything and not being able to turn anything on (including the mall) until the base is finished jfcAquilo you can at least start heating the place up
>>585528459>>585533070lies, I had some fairly profitable boat/trams combined working lines>>585533505Tho I agree, the train game in CoI is still one of the most satisfying to date.
>>585541289Shame it takes a longassbutt time to get to the point you're making trains
>>585544231>Shame it takes a longassbutt time to get to the point you're making trainsNot really though, it mainly depends on your map setup, and I think you can get the train tech fairly early, and honestly the main barrier is preparing and planning to make use of it, which is better done earlier than latter
>>585541289to be fair, my best runs started with boats, as goofy as they're depicted, though they can't hold a candle to trainstrams are just confused trains
>>584936552Finally got around to rebuilding this display to have modular dials and gauges.The red and green squares are the 1-6 pilot seat inputs because I can never remember which ones I've toggled on. Maximum values for the dials are just set with properties to save on notes, I don't expect to ever need them to be dynamic. The green values on the gauges moves along with the level and gets clamped between the min and max so they don't overlap.Since its meant to be as generic as possible I need to think of some more stuff to put on it that I would want on all my vehicles, I might build in a system that lets you toggle between different screens so I can have specialized systems link into it too.What else would you guys consider adding to a display like this? Got any design ideas?>>585077459I think I'll just keep the winches so that I can keep some slack in the system, and also keep it more true to the real life side loaders.It's hard to line up sideways cargo if I use tracks since it becomes more rigid, and I want to have as few moving parts as possible since every extra subgrid weakens the strength and crates are heavy as fuck.If I have worse winch issues I might try and revisit a rear loading method with a tilting bed.
>>585550626I get it, rope/cable/hose is a "soft" connection, there's more wiggle room, but that can just as easily become a problem of it's own, too.In that case, maybe try using pulleys to combat the stretching? I *think* they help in that regard.I didn't think of trying them for the fuel rod loading and, frankly, I've moved on past that specific design anyway.>It's hard to line up sideways cargo if I use tracks since it becomes more rigidDoes it mean that both connectors are separate subgrids?Because having them as parts of one subgrid would create these same problems with lining things up, no?As for strength, you could also add rail or hardpoint connectors to lock things in place at specific points during loading.
Any /egg/man Factorio 2.1 serbers up and running?
>>585512278Don't know. All techs and items are disabled. Manually edit each item is not an option. Why it fails to import setup - no idea
>>585517882And that's how we separate retards from normal ppl. (you a retard here)
>>585508816You do know you can rebind keys right?Retard
>>585504978Because.
>>585559246>>585559363>the retard SEETHES so fucking hard he makes 2 postslmao
>page 10 ragebait replyat least be a little bit subtle
In celebration of Factorio finishing active development: show us your earliest available runs.Pictured is my very first factory on (pirated) 0.12.35. I had no idea of what I was doing and what I was supposed to be doing. My idea of automation was to have 1 assembling machine for each item and had feed inputs and outputs to their respective chests. Anything more complex was a nightmare of spaghetti, I have no idea how I got as far as Battery production with this mindset.I was an inch away from quitting out of boredom forever until I got the insight of placing the science pack assemblers next to the belts that directly feed the labs.Now I have 3,000 hours played.
>>585559112I see come changes 4 days ago and a week ago about 2.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30pe79v4aw4
what did they do to the grass, I can't even see the ores now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV8aBXBBX_w
>>585580460She makes really cool mods but I wish there's some kind of alien tech that can be unlocked or monster ranching otherwise its just setting up defense and calling it a day.
>>585580460this the same nigga that made the fulgora bot enemiesI still don't see the point
>>585577246Do you expect ore to be on the ground? These things are called drills and not rakes for a reason, you know.
hmmsomething feels off
>>585594713hmm
>>585594713drink it
anybody here tried KSA ? is it looking good so far ?
Oh hey, jellyfish thinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV8aBXBBX_w
>>585606478yeah someone reposted it alreadyvibecoded mods stinky tho
I'm starting to think that I've might fucked up coming to fulgora without doing purple and yellow science on nauv first
>>585606837Just come back then?
Fuuuug
>>585607824I wish I could but my nauvis base died to biters while I was gone.
Doing some most pointless, but essential rearranging
I should get vatbrains up.If anything, to get science going faster.
>>585608248well it would have died anyway, probably even faster, if you set up those sciences, which would have doubled your pollution
Almost got elevated rails so I can hopefully unfuck myself
>>585556315Monday stationeers dieded like a year ago. I'm not sure if py is still up.
>>585634674My bad didn't notice you were just asking about factorio.
I wanna go to space already
>>584838512>only one hooked up to water
OhThat's why I was getting slammed almost immediately from all directions except souf
>>585639726he's trying, okay.
>>585639965don't play with gaylien biomesit buffs trees incredibly hard but nerfs pollution from terrain exponentiallybecause earendel likes it that wayprobably fucky now that you can plant trees
>>585639726>>585641201Man I noticed and fixed that shit right after I posted it.
>>585641343>don't play with gaylien biomesNo. I love snow too much. I love snow so much I downloaded mods to make Aquilo longer and harder>But that's stupidYes
ah, early nulliusattempt #2 after trying to do local AI literally destroyed my SSD lmao
>>585644095Luv me early Nullius. And late NulliusMid Nullius is...fine. Nullius is still the best overhaul. I like what Space Exploration gives you but the path to get there is kinda boring.
As of like 1 hour's time, the signups for the next VGL are open! All that's needed is proof you're interested in seeing the boys play.I'm thinking of shuffling the roster again so previous players get a go, do you guys want a poll to decide on them first or shall I make it entirely random (to a certain degree, the usual star players will stay in place for now)?
>>585645479Poll it up
>>585645438hue
>>585645608You answered first so you got to choose, good jobLuckily for the both of us, I already prepared a template to copy from last time!https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfEm7sGkrnYbGpzvbbTxoVC9mEsnl5xdcLE02TGNfptOmwptA/viewformIf you don't know some players just say so and I'll get some shots of what they look like. I'll make a short 'montage' of them or something over the next few days, no rush to vote right now
>>585647643Oops forgot the wiki link toohttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//egg/
>>585647643>>585645479I am interested.
>>585647643>Optional: do you want the medals who aren't CLANG/Mechanically to be shuffled next time?Have the medals ever been different?
>>585651721Nope, they've remained the same since the team began. That's never been a required thing though, so I figured at least having an option to change them up too once in a while is a nice idea. Last time they were in polls they went to the top anyway, this way people focus on the other players when voting :^)...well, except one player who I'm pretty sure would sweep the floor with them judging by his usual performance. I almost WANT to do a medal vote just to see, but I'm leaving that up to /egg/.
Anyone got Gleba suggestions to enhance the pain and make it more glebby?I swear we needed a third fruit
>>585532570I am finally going after the metal planet. Ensign Wesley Crusher was stuffed into a tin can and fired in its general direction. Unfortunately the tin can was carrying my old nemesis, the symbiotic alien microbe. Disinfecting a space ship is incredibly tedious. You have to suck all the air out, and guess what dupes in oxygen masks do that's right they exhale CO2 so I had to setup a stupid battery thing to let a gas pump pull a full vacuum which required also partial disassembly, and THEN the interior can be disinfected. But not re-assembled. Because of course the outside is totally covered in goo. So the exterior also has to be sterilized, and THAT requires not tracking goo back over what was just cleaned, and I had to isolate the launchpad and put in scrubbers.And guess what infesting the other asteroid as I was figuring this out. Lol. Anyways THAT wasn't so bad. (I only set Ensign Crusher and it's going way too slow.)
>>585653037Third fruit sure, but items needed in the decay chain would add to the pain and suffering too, say bioflux decaying into something, and using that to make another item that has uses if it decays twice maybe.
Bro this shit is appearing like every 20s what the fuck is this? 2.1 is CANCER. I was chilling before the update.
>>585655871alerts top right
>>585656969
>>585608248hehe :3 I was in the same position, I redid all the sciences on Fulgora scraps are easy once you sort them
God I suck at this game. Time to restart (again). Next run will be better (for sure, trust me bro).
Probably wouldn't count as an engineering game, but might be adjacent, is there any game that's "EVE economy, but singleplayer?" starsector is kind of doing that but combat is the main focus of the game and the econ feels mostly like an augmentation to that
>>585653037onlygleba
rate my crystal
>>585679560I know nothing of opus magnum and even I know that's a terrible solution
>>585675324There have been many attempts at this. I think the biggest one is X series, from Egosoft.
>>585679560I improved your design
>>585675324Astrox Imperium (I haven't played it) X series If you just want to make bash your head making space cash then elite dangerous/Scam citizen are grindy as fuck. Only /egg/ game that might fit that category I can think of is Avorion. It can also be combat focused but there's plenty of mining/trading you could do as well.
>>585675324Foundry comes to mind and is actually /egg/, but I haven't actually played it since they added the economy shit. Also it's an end game mechanic I think.
>>585684482Pinus :DDD
>>585645479>>585647643sent
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/onlyGlebaButHarder
oh, ewI was looking forward to onlygleba with worms
>>585693451>>585693575>This is my first mod, and it was essentially a weekend project, not a passion project or something I intend to spend a lot of time maintaining.>The individual features have been tested during development, but I haven't completed a full playthrough of the mod. There may be issues I've missed, and I can't guarantee compatibility with other mods.>I don't intend to provide ongoing support or troubleshoot individual setups. However, if there are problems with the mod itself that prevent it from functioning as intended, such as progression softlocks, broken mechanics, or balancing issues, I'll make an effort to correct them.>Beyond that, please don't expect regular updates or extensive maintenance."I made silly mod, I don't think much of it, if it works it works if not do it yourself":ok_hand:
>>585693741> This entire mod was essentially vibecoded using ChatGPTkek
>>585693862At least he's honest about it
>>585694650Granted, he's upfront about it but I'm gonna be worried about it running like ass
Is nullius or pyanadons more fun?
>>585695868Nullius is a fun overhaulPy is *fun* but it takes a very specific kind of mindset to *enjoy* but it is fun
>>585695868nullius is what I imagine vanilla factorio would look like if it was 100% catered to autists without sacrificing any polish in the processpy is the opposite approach, lots of fun wacky little things added for no other reason than they're fun but the overhaul still manages to feel curated and well balanced despite that
>>585695868nullius, no questions askedpy is "well I guess I did everything else other than trash like angelbobs"
>>585696581you've never played py
>>585693741>if it works it works if not do it yourselfWeird ppl. Exhibitionism, I guess? I also have few vibecoded mods but I don't upload them, as they solves my problem, but probably would brake setup for others.
>>585695868I tried nullius after space age. It's.. Well, when I reached rubber, I said enough is enough and dropped it. Now I'm prepping to go space in SEx. Not bad game. After SEx I will try pY.I think worst thing in nullius is huge amount of items with very similar names and icons.
>>585698896>when I reached rubber, I said enough is enough and dropped it.wonder if that's how it's gonna go with py as well
>>585655871>the humble 20 artillery wagon train
>>585699450Yeah, me too. Probably I'm delusional, we will see after 1000 hours of SEx
>>585701353I'd personally be exhausted after a couple hours of sex, let alone 1 thousand
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/RateCalculatorFast>make rate calculator but faster, make no mistakes, no source, no explanation, no NOTHING>punk
>>585697113When i first explored factorio's modportal i saw change logs going back years and the level of maintenance in effect. This immediately put into my mind: "around here i've got to bring excellence or nothing". Hopefully this spirit survives as time acts like a sieve for bad mods.
>>585709789There are plenty of bad mods updated every other week for years
>>585705327Bro, you are 35 or what.Jokes aside, you can distribute it in several years. With one gf, we had sex every day for a year. That was.. exhausting, but would repeat anyways.
>>585710236Then they're not so bad.
>>585709789>"around here i've got to bring excellence or nothing".https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Miss_Fortunehttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/magical-girl-accidentally-lands-on-alien-planethttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/space-sodaaaaahttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/its-pride-monthturns out you can just do whatever and people have been doing whatever ever sincebut it's a good mindset
>>585675324Sounds like X4.
>>585710445Just mention plexpt, he's a veteran should it displease us.I'd rather some stupid ugly mods with an obsessed autistic at the helm than 10 secretly broken Incompatible ups-rapists from revolving tourists coming in from low standard communities.You forgot the kovarex enrichment removal mods by the way, remember that controversy? Nostalgic times.
>>585711843I'm saying you're taking things too seriously m8
>>585711930I just hate that damn hedgehog so much.
>>585712198Everyone always acts like "Wow, Eggman is so obsessed with Sonic!" when like, no shit, Sonic has singlehandedly ended at least 90% of his plans, no wonder he fucking hates him
>>585714393maybe eggman could just not be a huge evil asshole and use his inventions for good or just like, personal gain or somethingI haven't followed sonic loreI'm not autistic
>>585719641What would be the fun in that, and if you're not, why are you here?
somebody give me the QRD on the early stone in null
>>585726424Thoughts on irl biters attacking the crude oil?
>>585730417did you watch the stonehead
>>585696982I did, factorio's raison d'etre, it's defining feature that keeps it the king of the genre despite all the clones attempting to dethrone it is it's optimizationLike a shooter that supports 100+ players vs one that supports max 30. They may be better or worse at certain things, but the 100+ player one simply can offer you experiences the other is incapable of. Factorio supports scale like no other /egg/ doesIn that light py is like an anti-factorio factorio mod, full of design that goes against the strengths of the game itself.Look at anons' builds:>>585641371>>585576303>>585426917>>585200295>>585200895>>585165009>>585101654These are TINY. That's because py has a minecraft's mod design, a truckload of recipes that either compress shit or do noting except be an extra crafting step that's requiring in extremely low quantities.Except minecraft mods have the decency of making applying the upgrade painless. Swap some coil, swap the casing, swap the hatch, the most involved routine upgrade thing you need to do is swapping the cables which also goes like a breeze if you use something like matter manipulator or know your shit and how to step up voltage.Meanwhile in py it's most often "add extra ingredient to double output" which fucking sucks.It's not all bad. Py is at it's best when it makes you balance a bunch of high-quantity plates to try and make use of the whole buffalo, so to say. Like coal processing
>>585731018noI started before then next day I see moaiman re-started his journey. For which I will be taking credit, I expect payment in form of good video (after I finish it), dosh
>>585731018also I figured it outcrusher for mostly stone, the assembler for mostly bricks
>>585735229>These are TINYYeah [you silly goose] my base is ridiculously small by py standards.take literally anyone else's.
>>585735229alsoI like how you took a build that makes one thing is literally so big that I cannot show it outside of map view for "this is tiny"a'ght bludda this is my teeny tiny kerosene setup, I'm afraid it might be a bit too small for your tastes
I mean I don't even understand why you're bringing up minecraft in the first place for some reason and why anyone would think py bases are small (???)py bases are so xboxhueg the server could take minutes to traversegenuinely what the fuck you on about eventell you what I don't wanna know
>>585736661it is smallthis is the same trick satisfactory pulls, bigger buildings don't big factory makein your build you have 24 buildings heating molten saltwould you describe a vanilla steam power setup with 24 boilers as large?
>>585737791I think you might be genuinely retarded, and worse I might know you personally.Get yo meds
>>585705707Does it work? The original rate calc was pretty laggy if you dragged it over an entire factory.
>>585739849No clue, but I'm not downloading a 50 download mod with no documentation knowing the original was made by one of the nerds that literally works at Wube. While this literallywho just said "ummm, actually this is uhhh hayai-er" and didn't bother explain anything
>>585741375he told chatgpt to make it go faster
>>585739849it just basically caps out at how fast it can do the calcs meaning it wont freeze your game but it goes slower instead
>>585730417what about it
>>585735229Man my oxygen build is small because it's only fueling three smelteries currently and the meat is quite literally a way for me to void excess meat byproducts so it doesn't need to be particularly big.Most of my shit is tiny because to make even a yellow belt of some items it either takes a insane amount of incredibly expensive buildings or 5+ belts of input to sustain the production which would see me spending more time designing these and getting all the machines made over just settling for 1-2 belts of input for whatever comes out the other side.
>>585735229>Except minecraft mods have the decency of making applying the upgrade painless.'there's a lot of microcrafting but you just plug everything into ae2 instead of needing to actually do builds' is not a point in modded mc's favorbuildings and modules are also both just direct replacements in py, it's only the better recipe that needs extra shit
>>585737969>MLPG artist picHow the hell did you end up in factory land
>>585754747nta, but there's probably lots of overlap based on the fact that both are populated by male autists.
should I be insta completing checkpoints?
>>585757578nothing wrong with it at least
>farm production optimization calculatorNice, too bad it doesn't take multiple recipe calculation into accountAnd on that note, seems more and more obvious that basedbean is just quite bad for feed production even though it has the highest yield recipe
Also, I really wish generators on the same priority level would share their load instead of being sequential, it would make a lot of the issue with spooling up/down easier to handle, afaik no mods for that either.
>>585760951Basedbeans never looked like they grew fast enough for me to want to make them for any other reason than to make Tofu. I never bothered to calculate it, though
>>585764650they just have fuckall trough output, one would think it would be versatile use for oil and feed, but even then its just too shit for either.Kind makes me question the balance, isn't basedbeans pretty much the base animal feed?
>>585765728In America that's corn, but that might just be because we have fucking insane levels of corn subsidies
>Random bug party gets hit by a train>They chimp out but can't get at the train that's 50 tiles away already so they just chew a hole in my power grid by eating the nearest pylonMan. The most satisfying part of any Factorio run is when my automatically supplied walls go up and Biters cease to be an issue, but I need requestor chests before that can realistically happen>Just turn them offNo
>>585654206Wesley went on a return mission to the metal swamp planet and he built himself a home. Had to skill-scrub him 4 times. But he got backed into a corner with high stress and little food (he's a ravenous binge eater), so he had to return abruptly w/o loot. Fortunately he managed to uncork a gold volcano. Unfortunately bog bucket bugs, which cause random damage ticks, broke into the abandoned base (a polluted tile decayed I think?) Also the alien goop somehow crawled past the waterlock, so now they're fighting for control—difficult to clean up without atmo suits.Wesley's made up for his shortcomings by mining space POIs for Al & Hg.Then I got glass made, and so solar panels, but capped at 4 due to crap wiring. (More grids? Hmm.)Another important development is looking closer at Ronivan's mods. I had a fair bit of wood and a critical shortage of polluted dirt, so why not make ethanol? Oh and if I spend some [i]precious[/i] chlorine, I can make plastic, and then turn it into fiberglass for ~3x (superior?) gaskets. So now steam turbines are theoretically available, but what about steel? Turns out the beeta biome has rust in it. Oh but wait making "syngas" makes even more p.dirt, oh but wait syngas can be used in a "rayon loom" to get (fiber I assume) and a way Better p.dirt source. Atmo suits: reachable.However my motive for playing was to practice making competent decisions... which hardly seems to be happening. I played a couple sessions of spage w/ the computer saying 'critic' every 10m, to prompt some reflection. This worked, but I tired of it—perhaps it's like the "only program 4 hours a day" thing. I should do this w/ ONI and not play for so long.A problem is this "stupid handicap" thing. Always make a unique bathroom design (picrel): totally worth it. Preserving biomes: just get atmosuits, or clean it up. For some reason only use Wesley for away missions: stupid. Only accepting dupes that fit a TNG character: I don't even know TNG that well.
God damn transport fever 3 is hard. You fix/optimize one thing and there's like 6 more things to deal with. I'm only in 1903 and struggling, I have no fucking idea how you're supposed to manage a bunch of larger cities later on.
The new mixed materials on storage is a huge reduction in pops needed for landclearing or even normal mining by replacing the need for most ore sorting. You'll still need to fit in belt filters if you want to split resources but that's way better than spamming a bunch of small ore sorters or a big one. I can't really think of a situation you'll actually need an ore sorter for that a belt filter couldn't do instead. As long as the waste product doesn't back up everything should keep moving without jams.
>>585760951>— Why do people use an LLM to write their mod descriptions
>>585776554Are they releasing it already, or is it a pre-build?Yeah that's kinda weird if the material is filtered in the belts itself, but seem weird if they're going to do it this way.>>585776984Weird indeed, maybe its a formatting thing on the mod platform itself.
>>585777706It's out on experimental. Ore sorters were always a bandaid for mining multiple materials at once. The blog mentioned that mixed materials are performance heavy so maybe that's why it took so long to do it correctly. These new overlays will be great for finding that one building that has the wrong recipe selected or a screwed up input.
flowrsi was gonna bitch about how much it takes to bootstrap ralesias but the recipe gives two each run instead of one so i actually have enough (once research stops and auto science boxes are arriving again)
It's /milk/
>>585754747Shh.
>>585769908What mods are u using? I've been considering loading up ONI with some mods to scratch that itch
>>585778642Yeah, I think mixed stuff is embedded data somewhere, apparently the new update will also I think they will fix the recycling stuff,currently I have basically infinite aluminium, so something was definitely off there
>>585760951>>585764650Tofu are basically what the basedbeans should be used for exclusively, canola is a better cooking oil source and you can just turn a surplus of wheat/corn into a more efficient and stable source of feed
>>585747950>'there's a lot of microcrafting but you just plug everything into ae2 instead of needing to actually do builds'not what I meantA) it's about spread, the most common upgrades are easy to do and pure benefit, the the others are not but provide a big jump in efficacy of whatever they're doingpy is the reverse, the most common upgrades are a PITA because they require brand new extra shit, and you have a good chance of being forced into re-building. Direct replacements are rare. Compare that to space ex that's shorter yet adds 6 extra tiers of modulesB) yes, patterning 10 recipes in a row and letting ae2 hadle it IS better design than having to do the same with 1 building for each recipe and routing 7 of the 300 items you make across your entire basebut I wouldn't even describe those as upgrading, just progressionthe real upgrading comes from unique bespoke things: flying to a different planet to mine ore for the stuff you want directly, siphoning gas giants, fighting a boss for a unique drop, breeding bees
>>585789230>not what I meanteven you don't know what you meant.
>>585784779Loosely in order of importance. Anything w/o a (note) is lightly-endorsed.https://files.catbox.moe/qoy0si.txtThis can presumably be imported w/ MPM. But I don't know if it's smart enough to automatically subscribe to stuff from Steam and I don't know how to make such a list Anonymously.https://files.catbox.moe/f55t32.json
>>585798474I just looked and found Floating[fix] for Floatation.>forgot search terms: Oxygen Not Included ONI oni mod mods modlist modpack mod-pack>>585784779Also:Each mod you add slightly multiplies the instability of everything. You certainly want to be lean and trim (which that mod list kind of isn't.) Anything that touches the UI is especially prone to breaking. Mod authors often drop out and you have to look for a '(fixed)' version. Steam kinda sucks at that. Sometimes the game hard-crashes or the crash screen doesn't help, so try unity3d/Klei/Oxygen Not Included/Player.log.If you're doing extensive work on mod configs, make backups far away because Steam looooves to nuke things.
Engineer me a thread bump
>>585817984You have the means to do so now, do it
And we take off>>585778642>mods will break with new versionand we crash
Second one off!!!
>>585817984God the snow looks so ugly
>>585824781AB is p bad
is it worth it to use the PVC plastic recipe after I have the polypropylene setup
>>585836876do you have a chlorine surplus anywherethen yes
>>585834416I like it. I also turn off all the really colorful tiles before mapgen. Sorry but I don't want everything to be bordered by purple swamps
>>585836876The thing about nullius is, voiding stuff is intentionally a pain. The shitty plastic recipe is there to let you balance chlorine against hydroxide.
speaking of nullius, I can't recommend the addons as of right nowThey feel undercooked and ponderous for a mod that is still actively being developed
you gotta love codegreensomeone vibe codes a version of his closed source mod that works for 2.1 and he replies an hour in wishing death on his family
>>585840636You mean the nickel and phosphorous ones?
>>585836876there's nothing wrong with keeping the old setup you had working but i wouldn't bother setting up new pvci don't get the people who talk about using plastic to void chlorine, you get mineral dust dissolution pretty quickly and the only time you're really running a surplus anyway is when you're first setting up aluminum for electrical
>>585844335yeah. They are addons that are intertwined an integral part of the core nullius experience but the mod itself just gets updated weekly and I don't know how you can trust someone to reimagine the interactions of your overhaul with a third party mod in the first place. It's not like the man lives inside the dev's head. It just feels based on vibes.
>>585817984Why is your contrast so fucked?
>>585844237Need more context>>585845626I downloaded Erendel's lighting overhaul because I like how it makes the nights look
>>585845797nothing, every time the nigga slacks on updating recipetweaker for months and months someone else picks it up and within two hours the guy's in the comments saying what they're doing is actually horrible
>Starting oil patch is so fucking awful I immediately need a secondYeesh
>>585844237Zased.
>>585844237>closed source modhow? lua is interpreted
>>585852537man idk he has no github for it but does for all his other garbo
lmaotwo times in a row fucking chodegreen I swear to lord the only way to get you to update your mod is to vibe code a fork
>>585844237>wishing death on his familygood lord how fragile are youpicrel: what actually happened
>>585857068is called a joke nigga
>>585857068Death on youDeath on your cow
I want a brain chip to supplement/replace keyboard and mouse
>>585861796I wanna play Factorio from my bed on the TV without needing a keyboard on my lap
benis :DDDD
>>585861929play it on switch2
>>585798474>>585800516Thanks pookie :3
>>585769908A fairly uneventful session. Alien goo somehow snuck into the colony, but was easily dealt with. (You don't have to leave auto-disinfect disabled the entire game.) We picked up a friendly macroscopic alien hitch-hiker named Neelix, who offered us his culinary expertise. The lettuce is now being cooled by liquid ammonia using the 1kg trick. It is then dumped into a chamber where it boils, gets pumped out, and sent back to the compressor. I put the compressor next to a second salt water geyser. However I have not automated it. (Honestly, it's dull.)Here is an unfinished build. Ideally: wood & salt go in and oxygen comes out. Along with some extra power, polluted water, CO2, clay, table salt, borax, and rayon fiber.
>>585864764Mmm...nyoActually I can ALMOST play it satisfactorioly on a Steam Deck (meaning I could do it on my Steam Controller) but the problem is that it's still not as good as keyboard and mouse even with all my keybinds and shitBiggest issue is combat. I can't clear nests using a controller like I can normally
Got any cool new wide spaceship designs now that width no longer matters directly for speed? I feel like making them pencil dicks is still by far the best thing you can be doing in general because you have less area to cover with turrets, but it's neat that you can make sillier shapes or just have a few tiles wider than the main ship and not be penalized immensely for it.Starting a """"proper"""" rush to space and keeping your hands clean run right now. Excited to see how shit it's going to be with the new expansion mechanics and not being able to wall off biter nests anymore. And by excited, I mean not really in the slightest.
>>585877368but more width equals more asteroids to collect which equals more ammo production for more turrets
>>585861929You can probably get it done with a Steam controller. Maybe even a regular controller, Factorio is available on Switch after all so presumably they do have a way to play it with a conventional controller too.
>>585878762I spent way too long making it work on the deck and it DOES work on the deck but I'd still rather use a mouse a keyboard
>Playing Transport Fever 3>-12 mil earnings10 minutes pass>4 million earnings3 minutes pass>-680k earnings4 minutes pass>1.2million earningsThis shit is stressing me the fuck out
Gonna start a Factorio 2.1 playthrough. Any good mods to add? QoL, added content, and so on?
>>585896606open the modportal.
>>585896606https://mods.factorio.com/mod/mandatory-spaghetti:3
>if ... else in combinatorsCONGRATULATIONS (2.0 was harder on release) on creating the 2.1 (it was harder on release) CIRCUIT NETWORK. I know you've been working really hard (2.0 used to be harder) at it, and I'm happy that you've (2.0 used to not have if ... else) achieved your goal of creating a working (using the if ... else crutch) circuit network.
What are some mods that make pyanadons more fun? :3 I'm thinking AAI loaders atm.
I feel I've gone as far with my designs as I could possibly care to. Factorio has only become work for me and I haven't even started on Spage.>>585899549What are you trying to communicate?I have no intention of using the feature. I know my design patterns.
>Search for automation games in Nextfest>look inside>idle games They took our word
>>585902538The line is pretty vague. You could argue MineMogul is an idle game, or even Satisfactory.
>Fluid mixing prevention is back: Pipelines with different fluids will not merge, and give a warning instead.gaaaaaaayyyy
>>585902692Need a new tag then. "factory games" maybe
>>585902727Again. Sushi still works. This is only for accidental spills.
>>585899549how is if else a crutch for circuit networks? are you dumb? Are quantifiers also crutch and you are using 30 combinators instead of 1?
>>585902727Took me like 5 seconds to make them merge anyway.
>>585606604desu I don't care about vibecode for a small mod but mixing sloppa graphics with my sexy sprite game are an instant no
>>585903237what happens is it creates a force wall between the two lines where they would mix as a preventive measure, then yells at youthat's an anti-retard fix more than anything
>>585844237>scrolling newly updated mods>huh, recipe tweaker is already out for 2.1?>how unusually industrious of CG>2 pages later>recipe tweaker fork>oh, that's why lmfaoliterally the same thing happened with 2.0/spage too
>>585904021He does that, yeah.
I bought a premium gpu and now all I play on it is factorio. Does anyone have recs for the most graphically demanding games?
>>585905779satisfaggotry (denigratory)
>>585905779Just play Satisfactory, turn the graphics up, use that global illumination setting on max.
>>585905779KSP 2
where svgg you fucking double niggerdo whatever you want with the op text but keep the subject correct
>>585909349thread died man and i missed it by accidentcalm your tits
>space casinos are gone
>>585914271be a real man and make a quality fulgora base
Should I do a vanilla space age run or pyanadons run?
>>585914743If you haven't beaten space age already somehow go beat that otherwise join us in the fun that is Py, or even better, pyblock!
>>585914743I'm doing on a single-map 100% achievement runI'm not smart enough to do it on default settings though, so I'm cheating by using an island with huge resource patches
>>585916286Doesn't that disable achievements?
>>585916286That sounds fun, I just need something to spice it up really I was doing a 10x tech run for a while up til blue science but I've decided on pyanadons>>585914785I just need something to spice it up really I got bored before I "finished" space age (only got to fulgora and vulcanus)>>585914547>quality fulgora basedoes sound interesting.
>>585916821>Doesn't that disable achievements?No, only some parameter changes disable achievementsIncreasing trees, changing biter behavior, or changing pollution will all disable certain achievementsBut you can have huge ore patches and enough water to cut your island off from biter bases, and that's still considered ok for achievements
>>585916286That is retarded on so many levels.You should feel not only stupid or incompetent but also vapid.
Whats a good SPM to aim for in pyanadons? I heard it was 6?
>>585919717Yeah. You don't need much because everything takes forever
>>585921395ash is a fucking pain in the ass tho
>>585921725The main issue is not having splitters and construction bots. Ash stacks to 1K, so you don't have to deal with it for a long time.
is doing this even worth my time?
>>585921725YesAlso you should have arms picking ash off the belt at the end of the belt or have a shitload more inserters grabbing it
>>585914547Never understood the point of space casino. Fulgora quality base is so fucking osom and provides almost all ingredients of quality levels.
>>585926314me neither, but people cry and moan about it and I'm glad.
>>585925562I have opted for a new design :3 going to have a baby mall going soon!
>>585891329just make more lines. literally everything is profitable if you're not a retard about it.it's very obvious:>do NOT use trains for routes that take like 2 seconds>do NOT use the most expensive train if it only has to carry 5 wagons>do NOT use a conga line of trucks for long distance hauling.>do NOT build a 50km bridge across the ocean, or tunnel under the entire mapthere, you win.
i finally learned trains and i still hate them
>>585923993i did this with my boilers for a whilesmelters though i just cleaned out by hand until i reached liquid fuel smelting
>>585934967Then instead of burning coal you turn it into syngas? I'm like halfway through py1 and liquid fuel is by biggest bottleneck, even without using fluid smelters and boilers.
>>585931715stay strong trains is hard job
>>585931715You have to stop
>>585936735the end products of the coaltar chain are a boatload of gasoline and aromatics, with yeah some syngas toohere's a fairly outdated picture of it
>>585940760See this is why you gotta learn your signals
Gaming has become gay, i go to /egg/. Gaming will be safe there.
>>585950157https://mods.factorio.com/mod/its-pride-monthhttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/rainbow-menu-logoshttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/estrogen-factoryhttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/pride-trailshttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/pride-asteroid-collectorshttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/PrideCollectorshttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/pride-beacons
>>585952507You should include the buttplug haptic feedback modThere's gotta be one
>>585952581pretty sure there is hold onah yes here https://mods.factorio.com/mod/cubutt
>>585952738>Linux-only for the moment.lmao
>>585952738>https://mods.factorio.com/mod/cubuttThis is the sort of thing that guy who had an MRI with a steel-core buttplug would use
>>585952829
I go to /vst/. Gaming will be safe there.
it's calley gayming for a reasonit's because you're the gaymer
>>585950157
>First Spage run went Vulcanus, Fugg, and Gleba>Second Spage run went Vulcanus, Fugg, and Gleba>Third Spage run went Vulcanus, Fugg, and Gleba>Fourth Spage run went Vulcanus, Fugg, and GlebaI keep thinking of maybe going to Fulgora first this time but I can't really justify it
>>585952846>that guy who had an MRI with a steel-core buttplug
>>585952507>there is, at max, 300 closet pedophiles playing factorio at any one time
>>585957057The plug was advertised as 100% silafoam and he didn't find out it wasn't until after they turned on the powerful electromagnet with a steel slug in his rectum.He sort of deserves it, though. He went into a scan meant to see what was inside him and he had a fucking buttplug in his ass (I don't care if they were only scanning his head)
>>585955020For me it was>Vulc, fulg, gleb>Gleb, vulc, fulgand now i'll be trying>Vulc, gleb, fulgGleba first was really nice for getting biolabs asap, but obviously gleba first sucks in many other ways on default settings. I had yellow and purple science automated to 45/minute before heading off to gleba, this time I'm going to try and vulc first for rush to space and keeping your hands clean and go from there.
rate my kovarex achievement pure approved resource settings
>>585959373Part of me wants to do shit like this but then I actually do enjoy seeing resource patches dieAlmostI hate dry oil patches because they're of limited usefulness but never useless enough to justify nuking the station entirely. Maybe I'll crank them up someday
>>585959949Same, I would keep the richness low at least.K2 makes oil nodes finite, maybe you could extract that into a separate mod.
>>585923993
>>585959373Mining prod is so comically cheap in SA that you already have infinite richness very quickly, I wouldn't crank it up too much
Finally after getting kicked of nauvis by biters and being stranded on fulgora without elevated rails, I have some actual science
>>585862710:DDD
>>585971553me when I use the cock obliterator device
>>585966889>kicked of nauvisHow'd you manage that? Did you really leave before securing the planet or is this some sort of larp/challenge?
>>585971553Take him to the penis explosion chamber and have his penis exploded immediately
>>585940760the trainin spainfell mostly on the plainkilling 68 people
>>585971659Yes, I left early before even yellow/purple science because I wanted to see the new planets
>>585971947Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>585952846Golly.>https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/woman-has-sex-toy-dragged-through-body-during-mri-scan/news-story/d7ac723f64f339fbab031e6cbe4cbeef
>>585973271Weird. Could have sworn it was a prancing lala homogayMaybe there's more than one instance of this
>>585971947
Jesus christ electric boilers are trash.
>>585975126py? if you have any surplus burner fluid nearby you'll have a better time just routing that into an oil boiler, at least until you get real powerplant infrastructure up and running
>>585975126py is one of those situations where energy progression gives you more energy per fuel, so any step "in reverse" has to be balanced around the most efficient scenario otherwise you'll be able to create a positive loop
>>585973810It has almost certainly happened more than once.People are not smart.
I kind of want to try something like anons traintruck that picks cargo up in the middle, and have the trailer bed be a U shape slot that I drive the cargo into.But I also kind of want to keep it as realistic as possible.Anyway, I actually want to make this thing viable for long trips, but driving on these thin bridges is awful with SW keyboard controls. Have you guys done anything for this? I was thinking of something to keep it between the lines automatically, there's no color sensor but I could keep the distance to the small side walls equal perhaps.
>>585973810>>585980413i recall reading/hearing that there was at least one lawsuit against some buttplug company because they claimed that there's no metal inside, but there apparently was and it turned into an anal railgun due to the mri machine
No idea what I'm doing in py :3
>>585988601is this the sort of thing they were envisioning when they locked splitters behind a dozen hours of gameplay?
>>585988665Being forced to split belts with inserters makes getting actual splitters much more rewarding.
>>585988665In the lifespan of Py the lack of splitters is but a blip
>>585988665honestly i think yes, given that even before 2.0 you started py with filter insertersnot really any other way to handle stone+kerogen, and you need to handle it somehow
>>585981332Well now the truck avoids hitting the sides of the bridge, unlike this chump.PID needs to be tuned but it stays in the center despite the oscillations at the max speed of 34m/s.I kind of wish there was a color sensor so that I could make sure it stays on all kinds of roads, it only works here because of the railings.
Elevated rails would've solved this
>>585996195>color sensorYou really thing that'd work? Environment's largely static and minimally responsive.I imagine, you'd have better luck making some sort of point-to-point navigation, making a route via series of previously-recorded coords.
is 6 science per minute really enough for pyanadons?
>>5859550202 years after everyone did i'm coming up on this choice for the first time. Reason tells me to settle for vulcanus, curiosity tells me to go to fulgora but my spirit couches for gleba and i'll regret it if i don't travel there first.
>>5860033736 per minute is probably overkill honestly
>>585960551Finite Oil already is a couple of mods.I tried that and indeed they run out as expected.
>>585996195>stormworks lane assist Cool.
>>586005493That sounds crazy to me. Its literally less than 1 assembler of science.
>>586005680unless you are a god among factorio players you are not going to be building fast enough to need more than that
>>585997394chain in rail out
>>586008161>entrada por cadena, salida por riel
I found my old build from starmade for a gunbuster turret like but it was gyroscopic to allow me to be able to open up and unleash hell.
>>585996195
>>586009170Range looks a bit short. Can the brakes act in time?
>>586009272https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3257884573Test it yourself. I haven't been able to play stormworks in sometime.My Truckhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3254546968
>>586008853>starmadethink_of_all_we_mcfucking_lost.jpegThat daft cunt Schema should've released it when java games were still all the rage thanks to minecrap.He'd have all the money he could need to finish the damn thing properly, instead of condemning it to development hell it's in now.
>>585975126they're trash until chem, where you're gonna be using several gigawatts just to get a trickle of uranium to make science and nothing else, and you unlock ways to get tens of gigs of power out of waste gases.
>>586003373Automation?No.Py3? Yes but you can quadruple it with vatbrains by then.
cursed
>>585645479Well, looks like there's even less rush to vote now.The powers that be have decided, for the first time in our history, that our 'proof of interest' was... insufficient, and our signup has been rejected. I could whine and complain, but to be honest my habit of concsiously avoiding spamming about it every VGL was gonna cause this eventually. Guess I'll have to let up on that for the future. Sorry lads.It'll be a while until any friendlies or mini cups happen, but I'll try to make up for this by joining in them when they show up.
>>586013996We're too small, theres like 5 anons here
>>586015398More, but nobody cares. It's more of a gacha thing.
>>586015398don't give a shit about virtual fantasy footballI play engineering games to get away from the puck-and-ball meatheads.
>>586013996Well fuck
>>586013996I voted but you'd probably get more of a response if you'd actually showcase what the FEETBALLers looked likea google doc with text only SUCKS
>>586013996I've never cared about that thing.
this is great
>>585997394how? i'm not a trainpro but it seems they didn't have signals at all(or they failed to an "all clear" state)first train stopped and the other rammed it up the ass
>>586019479thanks shillI uninstalled when I saw the two difficulty options, just pick one and make that the game
>>586015708Fantasy sports are just TTGs for guys who used to beat up the kids who played TTGs.
>>586013996your presentation is garbage and the tactics are even worse
>>586013996It's because we're in a 12 day old thread, isn't it?
Huh, so advanced parts are just the components for modules plus extra bits.
>>586021208
>>586009272Did you test it?
>>586026062Just answer the question faggot
>>586009170Elon Musk is rolling in his grave
>>586026554Finally decided to testdrive his own product?
>>586026447I haven't used it in years, it's not something I remember. I had a billion projects in that game I would like to get back to.
>>586021208>>585997394I'm also curious how this happened, seems like both were on the same direction and on their own tracks from that picture, if any baguetes are present, could you tell if any of those are high velocity, bullet or something like that?It does look like the red one was "hit" only past halfway, so maybe a faulty switch or track swung one of the trains into the other?
pyanadons is kinda scawy
>>586030454I might be a retard, but I think you shouldn't bother with malling buildings like this at this point. They're very complicated and you need a bunch of different ones. It's going to be a huge pain in the ass and waste resourcesYou probably should just have a bunch of boxes full of small parts, air core inductors, pipes, belts, and inserters
>>586028432Not a Spain guy, but from my research>Computer error in the signaling system caused all trains on a stretch to be automatically stopped>Somebody in the government overrides the safety system to allow a high-speed train to keep moving, and at full speed>Other train does not start moving, physics happensThe aftermath photos are misleading - they were both on the same track before the collision and going the same direction
>>586000117I was only thinking for roads, they're either grey on a green/orange terrain or they have white markings, I would be able to make lane assist work with a color sensor.I understand not adding it to the game though, I bet it's not the simplest thing and the payoff is tiny.Recoding every single road isn't as fun, and I'm happy to drive myself if it's not a super thin bridge.>>586009170Thats fuggin sweet, although I guess it also wouldn't work on standard roads.My other project right now is lidar terrain mapping for a submarine, hopefully going to end up with a 3d display. Going to work on that tonight after work if I get my truck finished.>>586005669:)
>>586031828so in factorio terms they manually drove a 15 wagon artillery train into an automatically stopped ore train
>>586035178where did the artillery come from, they're both passenger trains
>>586031046nta, iirc these building specifically are actually the "intermediate" buildings that get used in a fuckton of other
>>586031828oh wow, I guess they managed to slow the train some, even if it was wrecked, I'm thinking if it was full speed they would be mushed together pretty badly also this has to be some of the dumbest human errors, if not some covert terrorist act of some sort
sometimes it's nice to stop adhocing every solution and make something nice
oh shit, now I see you have to keep regular flights to keep this shit up there
>>586037313Yup, just another permanent sink of limited resources.
>>586037624Can't you drag asteroids out of space at some point and have infinite resources?
>>586037776Yes, and also trade for them. Lategame you transition from mining to buying raw ore and selling the value added in crafting.
Driving on Py asphalt makes me wish braking force also applied to cars
>>586038048Man any CoI run is long as hell, isn't it?
Jesus, it really is the 40 mosfets cost that hurts the most when making electronics mk2.
>>586013996Fug. I vooted but didn't reply.
>>586041209just hit something nigga it ain't hard to stop
>>585952507more like cracked/egg/, transxister
quite obsessed
>>586061440went fwee
time to engineer a new thread soon.
i'm baking a new thread, please wait until page 9 so i can post it
>>586063206alright
>>586013996That's gay I vote you whine and complain. You clearly didn't spam enough
>>586063730>>586063730>>586063730>>586063206>>586063260BOO. Sell your tonics elsewhere, miracle man.
I said I'm gonna bake you fucking OP spastic fuck youhere's the proper thread>>586064136>>586064136>>586064136
>>586063948>baking on page 6kill yourself retard
>>586064202man fuck you people I know died in that crash
>>586065105I'm sorry
>>586065549It's okay, I lied.
Celebrating the end of the thread with py modules.Yes, I made them in order for the screenshot but I really want prod now.
wait why the fuck did it save in 720p
>>586068212There we go
>>586063948>deletedKWABHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
