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Revenge Edition

>News
Conquest of Azeroth launched on Grimfall.
OctoWow is releasing BWL on November 1st. It will be the 1.18 version of the raid.
Epoch Reborn is releasing on October 23rd.
Frostmourne launched on Whitemane
Tauri launched their first raid, Emerald Nightmare.
Unreal Azeroth celebrates their second month of operation on Emberveil https://emberveil.org/news/two-months-of-emberveil
Ascension is becoming its own MMO with all Blizzard IP removed.

>Released Servers
Whitemane - https://whitemane.gg/en (WotLK+, Cataclysm)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (PVE, Legion)
Emberveil - https://emberveil.org (Vanilla, UE5)
Ravencraft - https://ravencraft.io/ (Turtle WoW, Vanilla+)
OctoWow - https://octowow.st (Turtle WoW, Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com (WotLK)
Firestorm - https://firestorm-servers.com/en/welcome (TWW, BFA funserver)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en (PVE, WotLK progressive)
Maelstrom - https://maelstrom.millenium-servers.com (WotLK client, Vanilla-WotLK progressive)
Vanilla+ - https://vanillaplus.org (Vanilla+, PVP)
Triumvirate-WoW - https://triumvirate-wow.com (WotLK funserver)
Kronos V - https://www.kronos-wow.com (Vanilla PVP)
GrimfallWoW - https://www.grimfallwow.com/ (Classless, Conquest of Azeroth)

>Upcoming Servers
Epoch Reborn - https://project-epoch.org/ (Vanilla+)
Everwood - https://discord.gg/sMdYZ5se8N (Turtle+)
Duskhaven - https://duskhaven.net
Wallcraft - https://www.wallcraft.org (Vanilla+)

>Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<gulag> - Tauri, Evermoon, Alliance
<World Peace> - Whitemane, Frostmourne, Crossfaction

>Singleplayer WoW with bots, modding tutorials, /wpsg/ creations and more
https://pastebin.com/xG3yU0yx

>Previous thread
>>584744813
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even the ritualposters aren't here. grim
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Post upcoming servers with femworgens.
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>>584878258
There aren't any and there never will be
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Post upcoming servers with male worgens but no female worgens.
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Which tank should I play for Grimfall?
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>>584878853
the uninstall wizard
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https://files.catbox.moe/s9mno9.mp4
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>>584878258
kys Grok, you abandoned evbery single one of us
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>>584879117
nigdy tak nie miałem
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Post upcoming servers with male and female worgen but they have the same model because all dogs look the same like should always have been the case
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>>584879217
mi się światłowód odkąd raven wyszedł pierdoli
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>>584879327
o cholipka trzymajta się tam
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>>584879664
This but with a succubus
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>>584879702
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>>584879664
thought it was really funny when your slop get 0 replies yesterday because literally no one appreciates your jeet spam here and you were too busy raiding afterwards to samefag replies to yourself
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>>584879847
i'm willing to buy that poor jeet nigga a month sub so he moves to wowfg
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>heres a turd
>come play with me
stay in your containment thread chaser
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>>584879664
you need to move on to ai goonslop video like the sloppers in the aion general
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Trying out Grimfall but the lag is too fucking much
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>>584879664
We love you, Uffie!
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pellaine and uffie
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I really wish Theo would stop joining tranny guilds, he deserves better.
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Remember the gulag files?
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ten krasnolud śpi i śni o Wielkiej Białej Polsce

5 i pół dnia do premiery Epoch Odrodzony
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>>584879847
I like it
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pochie....... webown!!! >.<
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>>584879847
She is one of our best posters and we all love her very much! You're the odd one out, trying to bully her, but you're all alone! We all stand with Uffie !
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>>584880416
>posts Trvmp saying "I want to lick Jaina's armpits" in global
>I-I WILL POST THE GROK-UFFIE ERP LOGS JUST WAIT
>nothing
yawn
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>>584880870
i stand against michelada and his tranny cronies.
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>>584879847
wrong
I replied to it two hours ago, I tend to do it, because I like their stuff, it's good slop >>584872767
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i find it funny how you use their because if you use her you'll get laughed at and using him will shatter your delusions of him being a woman
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>>584881149
so many layers of retardation in this post that only the smelliest 80 iq indian could have at once
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>>584881282
>ure stupid hurr durr jeet this jeet that
at least try to be a bit more creative troll if you want any more (You)s from me
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>>584879847
It'd be far better if she had a dick tbqh
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>>584879664
paizuri when?
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>>584881279
Learn English.
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>>584881570
I'm fine if I don't get any more (You)s from you. You are so stupid that nothing you say has any value whatsoever. Too stupid to not see why that ugly slop that has skin that looks like a leather couch looks like shit, too stupid to realize there is 0% chance he is anything other than a failed male and you are a homosexual so you use "their" to keep the dream alive, too stupid to realize that slop posted nowhere near when they were raiding is obviously not the slop being mocked. You are basically an animal and it'd be perfectly morally okay for someone to fucking kill you for no reason other than pest control.
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LET ME OUT THIS IS BULLSHIT
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>>584881941
Imagine this but female human and naked
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>>584881941
is this a reference to post empire britain?
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I'm fine if I don't get any more (You)s from you. You are so stupid that nothing you say has any value whatsoever. Too stupid to not see why that ugly slop that has skin that looks like a leather couch looks like shit, too stupid to realize there is 0% chance he is anything other than a failed male and you are a homosexual so you use "their" to keep the dream alive, too stupid to realize that slop posted nowhere near when they were raiding is obviously not the slop being mocked. You are basically an animal and it'd be perfectly morally okay for someone to fucking kill you for no reason other than pest control.
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>>584881885
>Too stupid to not see why that ugly slop that has skin that looks like a leather couch looks like shit
Taste is subjective, you would've realized this if you weren't actually just as stupid as you believe others to be.
One, I like the look of a leather couch. Two, I am not here looking for art I'd put on my wall, I think we already established this is slop, no?
> too stupid to realize there is 0% chance he is anything other than a failed male and you are a homosexual so you use "their" to keep the dream alive
I don't care what they are, they is the general neutral pronoun afaik. My native language has no genders at all so I really don't give a shit about that mental illness in English, I just don't see the point in being rude to random ppl on the net for no reason other than them being a tranny or nigger or whatever.
>too stupid to realize that slop posted nowhere near when they were raiding is obviously not the slop being mocked
Why do you think I care or know when and who raids lmao? Do you keep track of other anons? Are you ok?
>You are basically an animal and it'd be perfectly morally okay for someone to fucking kill you for no reason other than pest control.
Well, yes, humans are animals. Otherwise false, I don't do anything that would classify me as pest, and even if I did that it would definitely not be your call to make. If anything, the annoying pest here is you. I am fairly sure I am a much more pleasant person to be around than a sperg like you who thinks people should be killed for liking things they don't.
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>>584880475
rezultata
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tauri
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i still occasionally mourn CoA
forever is somehow both not classic in spirit and also kinda shitty retail-
conquest and turtle did it better
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You guys got any cats for me to kill?
>tfw you can't get the black spot on his face right with wow's limited options.
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>>584880171
Lag?
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>>584883824
just kys 9 times anon
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>>584879794
I tried but it doesn't really know the WoW Succubus. Really wish they'd release character reference for v5.
https://files.catbox.moe/uzsk11.ogg
>>584881829
https://files.catbox.moe/t8him5.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/qjvf9j.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/wru680.jpg
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>>584883550
>finally get to use sephuz in meme plus
>playing well rewarded with turbozoom
>bing bang wahoo at incredible speed through the dungeons
Legion is the best expansion and if you don't like it you're a fucking retard
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What do I do at lvl 20 in Grimfall
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>>584884359
prestige and get heirlooms or level an alt
cap professions
do bgs
spam rdf for your bis
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>>584884359
Test for bugs so they can be fixed
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cronos?
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>>584884359
Heroics
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>>584883992
For me I keep getting hit by lag every now and then. The game becomes unresponsive for a solid minute or so.
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>>584884875
Works on my machine
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>>584884059
T-thanks....
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>constant BGs
wqe are back
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>>584885060
I'm sure it does but I don't even know what it is. My latency is fine but it every now and then the server simply stops responding.
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any thick mods working on Grimfall?
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>>584884059
Shooting ropes to this, thanks
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>>584878001
Sup, I've been lurking a few threads now undecided whether to try private again so I don't get swallowed into the blizzard swamp again. I haven't played any official kind since I quit once WoD turned to be lame, but I'm rusty on private server knowledge.

As I understand there are 3 kinds of vanilla servers: standard (like Kronos), turtle copies (capy for chinks, raven, and octo), and vanilla+ ones, then there's the other standards like Tauri for Legion, Whitemane for a bunch of different ones, etc., but I still have some questions, in order "of expansion".

1) What is Turtle+ (Everwood)?
2) How do the other Vanilla+ ones compare? (E. Reborn, Wallcraft, VanillaPlus)
3) What does "WotLK progressive" mean and how does it differ to WotLK+?
4) What is Conquest of Azeroth?
5) How does the classless version of Grimfall work? Has anyone here tried it?
6) How "safe" is the current environment after Turtle got nuked from orbit? As in, how likely is it that any of these servers I pick to play on will get a C&D any time soon?

Thanks in advance for any reply.
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>>584884059
>the thread whore has returned
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>>584886617
Why didn't you say hello anon?
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>>584886602
>how likely is it that any of these servers I pick to play on will get a C&D any time soon?
realistically how do you expect anyone here to know or be able to quantify that
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>Grimfall is going to have even more Retoilet content than CoA did
Epochie is really my only hope left, huh?
Or is the DDoS for Octo got solved? I haven't kept up with things since Aug.
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>>584886805
Like I said, I'm rusty on private server knowledge. I don't know why Turtle got nuked, or why "Ascension is becoming its own MMO with all Blizzard IP removed." besides a boilerplate "because Blizz deemed so". I don't know if there are pitfalls private servers can avoid to meet the same fate, or if some of them have already gotten warnings? I saw something about Octo getting their discord killed by blizz or similar?

TL;DR - I expect anyone here to have a better degree of insight than anyone not here.
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>>584886602
>>1) What is Turtle+ (Everwood)?
don't bother, they ruined it, its strictly an RP server now
>2) How do the other Vanilla+ ones compare? (E. Reborn, Wallcraft, VanillaPlus)
If Epoch 2 gets 600~ pop, it's worth playing at least once.
>3) What does "WotLK progressive" mean and how does it differ to WotLK+?
Progressive is just going through the content phases without changes. + is changes and new content.
>4) What is Conquest of Azeroth?
21 new custom classes loosely based on WoW lore.
>5) How does the classless version of Grimfall work? Has anyone here tried it?
It's like early Ascension. Nothing too crazy.
>6) How "safe" is the current environment after Turtle got nuked from orbit? As in, how likely is it that any of these servers I pick to play on will get a C&D any time soon?
Nobody knows.
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>>584886602
>1) What is Turtle+ (Everwood)?
Some ideasguy server.
>2) How do the other Vanilla+ ones compare? (E. Reborn, Wallcraft, VanillaPlus)
Reborn isn't out. Wallcraft will never come out. VanillaPlus is dead.
>3) What does "WotLK progressive" mean and how does it differ to WotLK+?
Progressive is raids/expansions release over time. + is they've added custom stuff to it. A lot of servers are progressive though so I dunno.
>4) What is Conquest of Azeroth?
Custom Wow server with full custom classes that got sued and closed down.
>5) How does the classless version of Grimfall work? Has anyone here tried it?
Classless is you can use any class's abilities. You either choose what you want to learn or get to pick from three random abilities/spells as you level. Haven't tried Grimfall's version but classless in general is fun to play.
>6) How "safe" is the current environment after Turtle got nuked from orbit? As in, how likely is it that any of these servers I pick to play on will get a C&D any time soon?
Shit's on thin ice but I feel like they got rid of who they wanted for their vanilla+ Forever server. I dunno. Enjoy this shit while it lasts and don't expect it to last forever but also don't doom and gloom. The real punch to the dick is that these lawsuits have scared away some talented people. Like what's the point in making your own raids and shit if you'll just get sued?
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>>584886602
there are a bunch of private servers of private servers
capy/octo/raven are turtle wow clones
epoch reborn is a project epoch clone
grimfall is ascension's conquest of azeroth (COA) clone
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You can suggest names for Grimfall guild under this post.
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>>584887039
There is no guaranteed safety outside of making your own IP like ascension is doing right.
It's a constant cat and mouse game between private servers and Blizzard. For a long time blizzard went after the server hosters to take down private servers and in turn the private servers went to hosters that were outside of US jurisdiction. The new tactic is to slap the develeopers with RICO charges to shut shit down. The answer is to anonymize your dev team as much as possible.
Will it work? Who knows? We will know once epoch reborn stays or gets slapped with something new from Blizzard
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>>584886602
OP-writerfag here (I made many of these entries in past threads)
>What is Turtle+ (Everwood)?
Everwood is building an entire RP-focused framework on top of Turtle. Not intended to be a direct continuation of Turtle like Octo and Raven are, it goes in a different direction with it, adding turn-based combat, subraces, custom classes/classless components while removing the traditional leveling system and doing a whole bunch of other shit. I consider it Turtle+ because it's Turtle-based, but it's so radically different that it didn't make sense to just call it a Turtle clone.
>How do the other Vanilla+ ones compare? (E. Reborn, Wallcraft, VanillaPlus)
Pochie I know is a remake of Project Epoch, which I don't recall the whole lore on, but from what I remember was an attempt at a Classic+ separate from Turtle's stab at it, but it got acquired by Dutch of Ascension, was buried and died or something, and now someone is trying to make it happen again. Wallcraft is Wow + Schizophrenia, and VanillaPlus idk nobody plays that shit.
>What does "WotLK progressive" mean and how does it differ to WotLK+?
I think progressive means they roll out content up to that expansion in sequence, mimicking how it was originally done. IDK where they are currently, but I think the idea is that they start on Vanilla and do its phases, then slowly roll out TBC and its content phases, then WOTLK, then presumably reset/roll a new realm.
WOTLK+ means it's WOTLK but #YesChanges
>What is Conquest of Azeroth?
CoA is a highly custom experience developed by the Ascension project that replaces the classic WoW classes with 21 new and wacky ones loosely inspired by bits of Warcraft lore. Troll witchdoctors, Void Cultists, Venomancers (which are basically Nerubians), Moon Priests with bows, tinkers that make techno-gadgets, etc.
It was shut down by Blizzard along with the rest of Ascension, but Grimfall is bringing it back.
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>>584886602
>>584887061
>>584887451
Everwood is the best server ever.
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>>584887861
<Weird Grey Dude>
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>>584887861
<Grimfags>
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>>584887861
<Dead in Two Weeks>
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maybe our best bet is to wait for Dutch's new MMO
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>>584887980
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>>584887861
<Cease and Dicks>
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>>584887861
<Bought Dracthyr>
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>>584887861
<Locked'n'Loaded>
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>>584887861
<Grim Pals N Trans Gals>
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>>584887861
<Locked up OGs>
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>>584886829
Ddos is mostly fixed on Octo, still some people have issues logging in. Pochie 2 will be fun, but I wouldn't get the hopes too high, pop will be a fraction of what it was for Pochie 1.
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>>584887980
>>584888130
not interested after they confirmed it's strictly an RP server
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>>584888130
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>>584888063
I kneel!
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Can you come up with normal names? What is this shit???
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maybe our best bet is to wait for Shenna's new MMO
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maybe our best bet is to wait for GW3
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maybe our best bet is to commit joint suicide...?
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>>584887061
>>584887451
>>584887586
1) I never played Epoch, why would anyone try it over the Turtle copies? What's different? More importantly, what was good about it? Why did the original die?
2) How big is the population on Grimfall CoA?
3) How big is the population on Tauri?
4) Any reason to pick Octo over Raven besides for the population?
5) Is it true you can have your Octo "file" and use it to transfer to Raven or did I misread?
>>584887868
>The answer is to anonymize your dev team as much as possible.
To your general knowledge (or anyone else reading), which of these seems to be taking the "safest" path?
>>584887971
Thanks. I feel if I'm going to play anything past Vanilla, I might as well go the whole way into hell and pick Tauri... but what about Firestorm? Is it really up to TWW already? Isn't that just one expansion below the current retail one? Since OPs generally need to stalk a thread, I guess you'd pay attention more than the average, so: What do you personally recommend? What do you play? Should I wait for Epoch II?
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>>584888142
>not <Cunts and Dicks>
one job
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What class does the Grimfall guild need
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maybe our best bet is to commit joint suicide...?
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>>584888589
>To your general knowledge (or anyone else reading), which of these seems to be taking the "safest" path?
If it's only safety you care about it's capybara. The entire infrastructure and dev team is in china. They are the safest atleast in terms of Blizzard being able to threaten them but who knows if the government will decide to get involved at some poin
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>>584888479
never, fuck anet, I bought into EoD hoping they are fixing the game and all I got is a slap in the face
also the visual designs they've shown so far for GW3 makes me want to throw up
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>>584888589
>what's different
3.3.5a client, locked to vanilla content with way more leveling quests, DM and WC reworked, 2 new dungeons, dailies in silithus, reworked professions, TBC talents and spells.
>why did the original die
Turtle got sued, they got a C&D and ran away.
>grimfall coa
780 right now
>tauri
3k on weekdays, 3.5k on weekends
>reason to pick octo over raven
just the population, raven has 100~ pop
you are fucking yourself over because turtle mostly added group elite quests and good luck doing those alone
>5.
what?
>firestorm
their whole thing is half assed scripting and catching up to retail
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Everwood actually sounds interesting, I didn't know about it. Never tried an RP serb.
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Always satisfying when the random bullshit levelling drops you put on for their stats start resembling something that could work as an outfit.
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>>584888589
I fucked around on Tauri for a bit but didn't like the guild schedule and then got busy with my J*b and POE2 and other games. Tauri is a good Legion recreation. Very complete. Firestorm I've heard is 'not as scripted', as in, the scripting for certain quest sequences and other things isn't there or isn't accurate, so some quest just complete on the spot due to not having the scripted sequences down. I haven't tried it so idk how bad it is, but I've heard things like M+ dungeons and raiding do function at least. The BFA funserver is just BFA with an instant-110 level skip and a few QoL items. May or may not have the scripting better, but the fact that it's more populated than Ravencraft will never not be funny to me.
I recommend:
If you want a faithful Vanilla+ and don't want to give your dollarydoos to Blizzard for Forever: Wait for Pochie or play Octo
If you want that but specifically WOTLK era, play Frostie.
If you want Vanilla but wacky: Play Grimfall
If you want a more retail-like experience: Play Tauri
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>>584889191
you look gay
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>>584888589
>1) I never played Epoch, why would anyone try it over the Turtle copies? What's different? More importantly, what was good about it? Why did the original die?
It's a bit more quality than Turtle, but died early, didn't have time to cook much. Turtle is more mature, Epoch had more potential.
>4) Any reason to pick Octo over Raven besides for the population?
Raven is technically a bit better being the original turtle code. Octo has a few difference with Turtle, but not important enough to care about, population issue is way more important.
>5) Is it true you can have your Octo "file" and use it to transfer to Raven or did I misread?
No, you are likely falling for Octo marketing, do take with a lot of skepticism official information or shill about Octo (even on here). The actual truth about Octo is that it's a bunch of dudes who saw all the money that Turtle was making, downloaded the leaked Turtle code (leaked like three years ago) and asked AI to host it and update it to latest Turtle version. Despite all that, I would say that Octo is (sadly) still the best vanilla+ server available right now.
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>turtle
loved their design philosophy, let's just dump 100 mobs 5 feet apart from each other with short respawn time in the zones NOBODY goes to
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>>584889817
let's also make casters that do 20% of your health and make them have no cast bar!
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>>584885230
cute
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>>584889817
I never played Turtle until Raven but that seems to be their entire design philosophy. I like BRD as much as the next person but not every dungeon needs to be a 2-3 hour slog with 500 trash mobs. I only ever got to around level 40 so maybe that changed with their custom dungeons but I ran them a total of one time before not wanting to bother with them anymore.
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>>584888387
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sssssomebody PLAP ME
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What do I need to know regarding Malygos as a tank POV?
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>>584890472
Theo...
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>>584890472
Name?
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>>584890472
Post ai slop of your character and I'll consider it
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>>584890472
Post your character and I'll consider it
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>>584890472
Plap yourself with a .50 BMG in the head
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/join DESU
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>>584888858
Damn, I don't know Chinese though.
>>584889006
>just the population, raven has 100~ pop
How many of those are from here?
>>584889427
Thanks, so far I'm leaning towards Tauri until this "Pochie" drops.
>>584889686
Any chance Ravencraft will recover from low population or is its fate sealed? The spirits of contrarians past were already pushing me to try it over Octo even before reading your post, but now I'm right at the edge... if I won't wait for Epoch. I do miss playing Blood DK though.
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>>584892217
>How many of those are from here?
like 2
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>>584892217
>The spirits of contrarians past were already pushing me
Holy based
But I'd still avoid raven if I were you
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>>584892217
Raven was shilled by contrarians from this thread who did not want to play on Octo for one reason or another. The server is now effectively dead and all those who shilled it have already moved to different servers or Forever. Ravencraft will not recover anytime soon, especially with Forever's release around the corner. Octo would have to die for Raven to even have a chance of coming back because majority of Turtle players have re-established their community in Octocraft and the small technical differences between the two servers are irrelevant for 99% of the playerbase. Considering Octo survived the DDoS waves, its unlikely it is dying anytime soon.
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>>584887861
<Weird Grey Dudes>
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>queue for Strat heroic daily
>get Utgarde Keep
Thanks Whitemane bugged piece of shit.
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>>584891192
nyo!
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>>584892217
>Any chance Ravencraft will recover from low population or is its fate sealed?
I would say that its fate is sealed. The problem with all Turtle clones is that they have no development and no actual plan to continue with Turtle's roadmap. In the unlikely event that they try to actually add to or modify Turtle stuff, they won't have any good game design. Look at the few changes that Octo made (which were basically just nerfs). The true Turtle successor will probably not be any of those servers. It will be the one that is able to release new, good content and continue Turtle's legacy. But sadly, with how tainted by greed Turtle stuff is, I don't think this will happen.
>>584892746
>majority of Turtle players have re-established their community in Octocraft
That's one thing I disagree. The majority of Turtle players are not playing on Octo or Raven. If that was the case, Octo would have 10k+ pop. Like even if Octo pop is marginally better than Raven, it's still quite bad, and doesn't bode well for the future of the server, especially with Forever on the horizon. Northshire + Ambershire had like 15-20k peak, and had 10k online (combined) most of the time. From my experience there is also a lot of people that never played on Turtle on Octo, would be interesting to do a population survey on that. I think the majority of Turtle players were devastated by Turtle ending, and don't want to play on private servers anymore. At least from my Turtle guild, there are maybe 30% that gave Octo a try, and maybe 20% that are still currently playing there.
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>>584889975
>I like BRD as much as the next transperson but wouldn't it be so much better if every dungeon was a 15 minute hallway like in future expansions?
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>>584893507
nobody is doing a 40m BRD-like dungeon at lvl 40 more than once
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There's an anon guild on Octo already btw
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>>584893483
>good content and continue Turtle's legacy
lol
>even if Octo pop is marginally better than Raven
which one would you rather play? 2k player server or 100 player server?
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>>584893483
Lots of people straight up quit/deleted/uninstalled/HCdeath'd their characters on announcement. The sendoff party with the Moonwhisper addition was the best going-away a private server has gotten but there were still plenty of people who didn't come back. D:
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>>584893483
I agree that Octo doesn't have the population of Amber or Nordanaar. If I had to give a more precise number, I'd say 10% of Turtle refugees went to Chromie, 25-30% to Octo, 3-4% to Faebright and rest disappeared to other servers or stopped playing entirely. I do see plenty of familiar faces on Octo, but it is true that it's not Turtle. Not looking forwards to seeing how the private scene will look like once Forever releases. Not that I disagree with you, but before the shutdown news became public, Turtle did not have 15-20k combined peak, it was closer to 8-10k. Nord would have 4-5k on a weekend with Ambershire having 3-4k on the same day. There was an unspoken process of people being burned out of Turtle because people were raiding 7 days a week or had multiple alts doing multiple raids.
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I'm leveling my 4th character on frostmourne and i have no idea why because i barely play 2 of them
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>everyone else gets constantly poached guild to guild server to server by unstable slopposting ERP whores ready to do anything for attention
>nobody has so much as complimented your mog, nevermind wanted to ERP or steal you
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>>584894887
I was in one of the bigger guilds and one of the new leaders at one point liked to repeat that we were not a hardcore guild -- despite raiding about 5 days a week. Honestly vanilla has the most raiding out of the first three iterations.
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>dooming about muh forever like it's not a steaming pile of dogshit
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>>584883187
Imagine writing all that to defend you honor from internet man
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>>584894887
I'd say the number of refugees is even lower than that. Turtle population did go down before the end, but I don't think it's because of burnout. At least in my guild, people who left at that time was because of the lawsuit, there was a huge population drop after it, the 8-10k you are citing is definitely after lawsuit, but even then after 1.18.1 release, I would say the number was higher, 12-15k peak at least, Nord was peaking at 6-7k for a very long while, Amber at 6-8k around that same time. Still less than before lawsuit, but still quite high.
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>>584895089
Ugh, I'm just having fun with it
You know that a nigga was lost
I laugh in my head
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>>584895108
>Honestly vanilla has the most raiding out of the first three iterations.
>meanwhile forever launches with 3 raids
>then releases another 2 raids by spring
the burnout on that slop will be insane
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>>584896027
I'm already burnt out on forever and haven't even participated in the beta yet
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>>584884059
I need more draenei sfw pics
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>>584895108
>>584896027
You know that you don't have to do every raids right? Lot of people in my guild were only doing 2 raids a week. It wasn't the same people doing naxx that were doing MC. There were multiple guilds only raiding k40 and naxx.
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>>584892746
Damn.
>>584893483
Is not even Capybara taking up the torch?
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>>584893584
>You don't understand, xisters, I NEED to speedtran the same dungeon over and over every single day!!!!! I can't do that with large, complex, sophisticated, nonlinear design!!!!!!!!
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>criticize turtle once
>YOU ARE A TRANNY YOU ARE A TRANNY
what causes this?
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What is the Everwood guild name?
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>>584897216
>Is not even Capybara taking up the torch?
0 development done
0 bots banned
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>>584897415
trannies
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>>584896713
Oh I know but many many people were double dipping including most of the leadership. Alts and such.
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>you will never go back to pre-nostalrius /wpsg/ and private servers
i want to go back
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>>584895262
Wrong assumption. I was simply bored enough.
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>>584897676
OH COUNTRY ROADS
TAKE ME HOMMMMMME
TO EXCALIBUR WHERE I BELOOOOOONG
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shrek did nothing wrong
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>>584897751
mhm sure
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>>584897852
GAMER DISTRICCCCCT
HELLGROUND ROLLBACKS
TAKE ME HOME, COUNTRY ROADS
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>>584897676
/wpsg/ was a joke until /nosg/ culturally enriched your dead genny and revolutionized pserver discourse
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>>584898093
more like it was a flood of redditers to a comfy scene. we didn't even have trannies posting here before nostalrius
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>865 pop
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>>584897216
No. Turtle WoW was hosted in multiple regions, Europe being the main one which had the actual developers. SEA and SA being the other ones. Some of the dude who were in charge of operating Turtle in the SEA region didn't want to close down the server. Either from an agreement or somehow being forced, they did end up closing the SEA server. But a week or so later they rehosted it under the Capybara name. If you had characters on the SEA servers, you can still play them on Capybara, it's like the server never closed for them, they I believe still have 10k+ players. But development is another matter entirely. Ravencraft got their server from unknown source, some believe it's Capy trying to launch a server in EU, some believe it was bought from Capy or another leaker. But they don't have any actual dev and don't have the characters database. Octo and the myriad of other servers are just using the leaked old source. Octo is the only one that got popular because it was extensively shilled.
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>>584898587
>Octo is the only one that got popular because it was extensively shilled.
It launched the earliest. Raven launched months later. It also has the better SEO.
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>>584898929
Octo was announced during late April shortly afterward lawsuit news. Raven was announced in August. That's not shilling, that's Raven devs being retarded slowpokes and losing the fight before they even launched. People only chose Octo because Octo was the only server. All Raven had to do was to launch earlier.
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>>584898330
I thought things had gotten bad by around the turn of the start of the 2010s but I did not know how bad things could really get post-2016
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Ok, I've decided. I'm rolling on Grimfall.
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>>584898929
>>584899276
I wasn't even comparing it with Raven here, stop seeing everything from the prism of Octo vs Raven, this is retarded. I'm comparing to all the servers that were based on the leak which is not the case of Raven, learn to read. Octo wasn't the first, if anything it was quite late in bringing 1.18.1 support.
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Okay, but which one of these servers is going to stay around for longer than 3 months?
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>>584899324
i mean it's not like there wasn't cancer before, but man was it bad after 2016
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the unfortunate trvke is that these turtle clones are just cash grabs
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>>584899404
there are no other english turdle servers
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>>584899495
capy and octo are
raven doesn't have a shop
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>>584899640
so how do they make money to maintain the server?
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>>584899640
because it's abandonware
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>>584899423
All of them but the players won't
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>>584899597
https://turtlewow2.com/
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>>584899495
And turtle itself wasn't a cash grab? They made multiple million of dollars a year.
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Welp, grimfall installer aint working out
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>>584900160
Yep, tried via steam too. Literally uninstallable because the installer thinks itself is the launcher, and it keeps asking you to stop the launcher process.
Probably the code is just scanning your processes for "Grimfall" and "Launcher" and freaking out over anything called that. Wouldn't expect anything less from vibeslop.
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I don't like level 20 cap
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>>584900160
>>584901106
had AI slop this together a while ago: https://rentry.co/9763pmea
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>>584901367
this woggie making me act up rn...nyo...
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>>584901367
PoV: fem humie noobie lost in Westfall
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Im glad forever is saving me from this absolute slop garbage churned out by private servers now.
With Ascension/Turtle dead there is only garbage left.
Still over 2 weeks left is rough tho.
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>>584901873
>forever is saving me from this absolute slop
good bait
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Is there a place I can find Wrath gear spreadsheets like not just best items but the top 10ish for each phase? Something like that?
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>implying turtle wasnt garbage
>implying ascension wasnt garbage
>implying forever isnt garbage
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>>584901443
nvm figured it out
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Took me a while but finally got my own SPP up and running. Only major issue is that the cmangoes in game add party / raid bot doesn't work. I have to manually add bots to the group which is fine its just going to be annoying once I'm raiding.

I want to play vanilla as it was, then TBC, then Wrath. I realized that Forever is going to be ruined before launch since that stupid faggotass tourney already has people shitsocking the fun out of the game and based on my own experiences once the first few couple dozen 60s start cornering and sharpening the AH it'll forever ruin the economy.

At least with an SPP the world stops (or at least I have it set up so it cant outpace me other than a few levels) and I even have an LLM set up for when I'm online the bots actually talk somewhat properly.

Still, it bothers me the what's on the tin package addon doesn't work properly. Anyone know what's up with that? Im using stonetavern 1.12.1 leatrix doesn't want to work either
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>>584902307
All the wowhead guides have those
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video games peaked with CoA
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>>584901367
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>>584902558
It's usually the best 3-maybe rarely 5 which is the best 1 or 2 raid options and some BoE shit.
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>>584901762
hnghhh
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>I can't wait to play on WoW: Forever with all of my /wpsg/ nonnie-
ack!
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>>584903207
even forum post mostly had 1-2 options. just calculate the value based on stat weight before it drops. there are only so many relevant items. wowhead is comprehensive.
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It's pretty telling that Aecheur quit Forever faster than Turtle.
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>>584901367
Rutt no…
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584906152
bad faith post
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>>584906152
I don’t countenance the opinions of retarded tranny chasing zoomers from faggot countries like france so it tells me dick all.
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Kissing wpsg slopposters on the forehead
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1 character. done.
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>>584907170
Grats on spending two hours or so to hit 20 dude mom would be proud
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i cant believe bbcheur's home got burned down by his precious bbc...
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>>584906543
Just the forehead or...?
https://files.catbox.moe/3yd2ps.jpg
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My journey begins!
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>>584884059
more draezuri PLEASE
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>0 fempandaren on grimfall
ugh
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Should I give grimfall a try?
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>>584907968
what the fuck is that expression
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>>584908373
Kek
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>>584896636
Boo!
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>>584902307
https://github.com/Magmonix/RAWR_WotLK_3.3.5a
lists are for suckers
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>>584908902
Perfect cheers
suggestive pics will always trump porn ones
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Ranger is pretty fun, actually.
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>>584909537
Retard
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How do you collect appearances?
All the starting gear just says haven't collected but there's no obvious way to collect them.
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>>584910508
delete them
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>>584909740
this. he's also brown.
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Stop bullying our slop posters!
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Visiting the small folk near Silvermoon.
Yes, all very real elves here.
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is there a grimmie guild yet? i wont play until we have a guild!
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oof
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>>584912823
That's pretty standard for wrath fresh. Many people get hyped and then quit for the next fresh because they have to face the reality of playing wrath which is a shit expansion
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>>584912823
bro snipes server restarts to post screenshots 10 days later
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RAVEN IS SAVED. IT'S REVERTING TO 1.14!
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>>584912823
>8 people gquit after yesterday's fiasco
brutal
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>>584912673
Make one.
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>>584913341
1.14 is modern blizzard classic/forever client retard
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>>584912823
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>>584913513
>classic/forever client
two completely different clients btw retard
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Ravencraft won!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_IXB3FZUys
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>OCTOTROONS LOST
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>>584913624
based bulgarian chads absolutely mogging troon peace
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?
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>>584913720
>no forever in the text
they aren't even trying
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octotroons rave in old ironforge 12 hours long
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actually, grimfall losted. bigly.
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Good server = dopamine
Good population without language barrier = more dopamine
Good connection/decent ping = even more dopamine
Good server + good conection + good population = good gameplay experience
Good gameplay experience = peak dopamine
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P O C H I E
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>>584907918
Kiss the pp
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>>584914139
lmaoooo
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>>584913720
Remember the 5 Gs, young scholar!
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octobottoms LOSTED!
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>>584914337
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>>584913341
ew, time to jump ship
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>>584913341
>>584913513
the forever client is 1.60 (based on midnight)
1.14 is the client used in 2019 classic
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Raven won so bigly. Everyone used to complain about shitty client, not anymore. GO RAVEN
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the samefagging is real
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5Gs = Gay Guys Getting Gaped Grand
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RAVEN POP? ARE WE BACK?
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>>584897560
>>584898587
Damn, that's a pity. So the horizon on vanilla servers is grim then? Is Forever really the death knell for them? Will Epoch Reborn get a sizeable player base or is that wishful thinking at best? Hell will freeze over before I ever make another battle.net account though, I refuse to give those faggots a single cent ever again.
>>584913341
Doesn't Ravencraft use the WotLK client as base? What are the improvements? A quick search says "added support for DirectX 12 and Ray Traced Shadows", but is that it? Nothing else?
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>>584893697
why wasn't it announced here?
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>>584917732
Cool it with the antiredditism
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It's kind of weird that the only real information about epoch changes survived in form of youtube videos
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Just saw 3.3.5 and 4.3.4 were decompiled. Who's ready for some crazy private servers?

If you are using claude, I recommend building tools with it to make building custom content easier without claude
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>>584918810
Where? Why didn't you link what you saw? You aren't some filthy phoneposter, right?
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>>584918810
That's the client that has been decompiled, at best you can make the game run better but the interesting shit happens server side
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I hate this general.
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>>584915943
Actually is the client used in 2021 classic era, specifically:
>The client has been synchronized to be on the same approximate baseline as patch 2.5.2, with some changes from 9.1.5 included
So it kinda sorta uses the shadowlands one as a base.
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>>584919265
Why?
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>>584919265
he is more of a warband leader
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Thank God Ravencraft is now 1.14 so all those addons that made 1.12 playable will not work at all.
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the plot thickens, now they're former TurtleWow developers
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>>584918924
Bro it's old news that's already been covered here, with links. Go read some old threads, lazypants.
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>>584920476
BLIZZARD! BLIZZARD RIGHT HERE!
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>>584920476
welcome back Shenna
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>>584918810
Why would that matter? The client has already been modded to hell, and it's not that interesting.
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>>584920476
What's their sauce on that?
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>>584920576
>just saw
>can't say where
Yep, phoneposter
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>>584920476
they already said that when the server was first announced, this is not a new development
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>>584920846
they said they were turtle contributors
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>>584920336
well you dont need those addons now
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>>584920763
When did I saw I was the same poster? Not my fault he only just saw it and thought it was new.
Do you even know how to use a search engine?
Kids these days man I swear.
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>>584920476
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>>584921041
That sounds like phoneposting melty, if you can't stop posting from your phone just say so, no need to get upset about it
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>>584920974
right?
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post the raven pop, I have a feeling we are hitting 300 tonight
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>>584920846
turtle contributors, not developers
contributor could be anybody from community manager to dev, now these hotshots are narrowing down their claims
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>>584921041
Curious you went out of way to defend someone because they were accused of posting with their phone instead of a PC.
>Kids these days man I swear.
This line makes you seem even more suspicious, I'm sorry to say.
>>584921293
I'll login to check, give me a sec.
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>>584921427
I just call out lazy fucks as I see 'em.
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I will not tolerate the bullying of our beloved slop posters! Especially Elaynna, Rasknitt, and Miss Uffie!
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>>584920476
this is how Ravencraft can still win
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>>584921370
they obviously meant code but if this is new to you have at it
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>>584921632
What exactly will they be winning?
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>>584921293
>49
Rough.
>>584921485
Maybe that anon is new. Again, it's strange you immediately jumped to defend someone like that.
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Pochie status?
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>>584920476
this is how he wins
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>>584921590
Nobody bullies Elaynna! Nobody! NOBODY!!!!!!
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>>584921793
I don't want to be normal if you consider that strange. People used to be able to do a simple fact check like that.
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>>584921793
liar, dlo
.s info
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>>584922214
Huh, why is there such discrepancy? That's over thrice the amount.
>>584922091
Again, you seem to be missing the point, perhaps on purpose. You lashed out at anon, who could be new here, clearly because they added the "filthy phoneposter" part. Without it, the post is so forgettable innocuous, that only someone derange would reply to it like that.
>People used to be able to do a simple fact check
Again, you're deflecting.
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anyone from branded can tell me when they do ony? i might be able to come online in about 30 minutes
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>>584922751
180? We are rising.
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>>584922751
I called out someone for lazily asking for an easily searchable source, as you should. Everything else was and is irrelevant, you dense motherfucker.
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Is it safe to assume the moment one of these vanilla pservers start using the forever client, they're getting a letter?
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>>584923040
You could, and would, have done the same to a variety of other posts in this thread, yet that's the only one with such a reply. You were clearly "triggered".
>>584923091
Not necessarily. It seems it's mostly based on how much money they're making.
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>>584923091
Blizzard spends more time going after Private Servers than going after botters & bot hosts.
It's sad.
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>>584922812
ask them in their general, idiot
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>>584921370
contributor to not attract attention
dev to attract it
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>Spending months making a new client
Meanwhile during that time Octo added new challenges for people to play thru and pets to get so this isn't as impressive as ravendevs want it to be
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>>584923374
huh guh waaaaaaaahhhhhh~? what general? i thought this is the right place here?
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>>584922751
on some servers /who is limited to viewing 49 players at the same time in the window
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Don't use Ravencraft's new client.
They used AI in the reverse engineering and implementation part.
Stand against AI slop. Please.
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>>584924223
>>/heals/
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>>584924582
heals what?
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>>584924432
Huh, I can't believe I just found out. Thanks.
>>584924482
I will now use the new client.
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>>584921834
Is the 75% illumination on poochie enough for holy paladins to reach infinite mana by mc?
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>>584925120
I wish I didn't know about /heals/ like this anon.
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>>584925390
lol on which board is it? the gay fag one? CAN ANY BRANDED FAG SIMPLY ANSWER WHEN THEY DOING ONY TODAY AND IF THERE IS A SPOT FOR LOCK DAMNED HOW HARD CAN IT BE
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>>584925120
It's not on /vg/, it's on /trash/.
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>>584925787
>IF THERE IS A SPOT FOR LOCK
Are you ready to get LOCKED & CAGED?
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>>584925787
no they can't, you gotta cruise in into their honeypot
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>GULAG IS BA-
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IDGAF unfazed, unbothered I ask ingame, i ask here, i ask on trash and I need to know if i can join or not you stupid FAGGOTS CAN I JOIN THE FUCKING ONY PUG OR NOT GAWDDAMNED
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Armed for battle!
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Grimfall... Please don't die while I am away...
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hellohoooooo branded FAGGOTS can ypu fucking ANSWERRRRRRRRRR
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>>584927002
Nigga whisper to them in game
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I see grimfall already has all the tranny erper fresh chasers lol
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I want to believe in Epoch Reborn, but have they shown any indication that they have the capability to make new stuff from scratch? Just a few quests would be a lot more reassuring.
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>>584927078
I FUCKING DID AND THE FAGGOT SAID LOL I DUNNO IDIOT ASK THE LEADERS AND THEBFUCKING LEADERS WEREN ONLINE YOU STUPID FUCK I GOTTA BE QUIET FOR NOW TO NOT WAKE MY SON UP JUST BECAUSE HIS RETARDED FATHER WANTS TO PLAY SOME WOWEEHWAHWAH HENCE WHY I HAVE TO LET THE PC OFFF FOR NOWW UNTIL HE SLEEPS TROUGHLY GAEDFUCK I HATE YOU NEETTROONS SO MUCH LETME FUCKING KNOW ALREADY IF I SHOULD STAY UP 20 MORE MINUTES OR GO TO SLEEP SIJCE I GOF GO FUCKING WORK IN TOMORROW
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>>584927174
I don't ERP, I am not a tranny, and I am not a fresh chaser.
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>>584922751
>max online: 238
Grim.
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>>584922751
>max online: 238
Comfy.
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>>584927403
>and I am not a fresh chaser.
but you are
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>>584927361
We don't care about Branded shit. Ask on their general. Do not post here again.
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>>584927724
Did not play on Ambershire, did not play on Octo, did not play on Raven, did not play on Nostrum, did not play on Emberveil, did not play on Kronos.
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>>584927786
there is no 'we' you stupid faggot, i ask wherever i want you stupid neetfuck I CURSE YOU YOU WILL HAVE TO FIND WORK, YOU WILL MAKE A PSYCHOBITCH PREGNANT AND YOU WILL HAVE TONTAKE CARE OF YOUR OFFSPRING ALL YOUR TIME WILL BE CUT SHORT YOU READ THATBYOU ARE FUCKING CURSED YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER AND THEN TROONS WILL DECIDE IF YOUBCAN PROGRESS OR NOT IN THE STUPID GAME YOU'RE ADDICTED TO FOR THE SHORT TIME BEING
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>>584928194
you are a father, why are you chasing after loony troons?
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>>584922751
>max online: 238
Grimfy (grim and comfy).
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>>584928404
Grimfall CoA just peaked at 950 players.
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>>584928557
>sub 1k peak players
Grim indeed.
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>>584928363
im chasing after phat loots. i tried ony pugs and every attempt, every wipe causes me to lose one IQ point, im literally going insane if i have to endure one more single wipe because retards dont tank the fucking hatchers properly i will go ona rampage you can't make me do it. as it appears now branded holds the key to my success in achieving this and they just want to see me suffer. locked up mentally, locked up in the wagiecagie, locked up. in spirit. i am nothing but locked up
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Will anyone inform the Raven devs that their server still doesn't have a hook?
Emberveil did the UE5 shit and it flopped. Even if it was perfect, it didn't get more than 150 players.
You need a hook for people. Fresh isn't enough when you are about to launch MC.
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>>584928814
>as it appears now branded holds the key
>locked up
stop
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>>584928826
they dont need a hook i dont wanna play with buckbroken octosissies
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>>584929081
i do stop, they have won for now. i have more important battles to fight (wageslaving) unbelivable three weeks worth of onyixia lockouts (heh) and I still can't get it done. my sanity...
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poor zezervie...
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Looking at it now Branded are the bad guys for not letting a simple worlock have fun in raids despite them needing dps for runs
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>>584930303
Have you seen how retarded this dude is? I wouldn't let him in my raid either.
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>look up this server
>0 info on the site
...
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>>584931707
It started as turtle port in 3.3.5, they slopped a bunch of shit on top of it.
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>>584930303
Zezerver joined our MC pug yesterday and was very nice and well behaved despite repeatedly ironically referring to the raid leader as 'yes boss, no boss' when asked to perform his warlock duties.
He couldnt join our Ony today because of bad time zones but when he fully joins <Branded> i have no doubt we will accommodate for his wagecuck hours!
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this dwarf is dreaming of perfect world in which Sugarplum moves into Zezerver's household and saves him from being single parent

5 more sleeping Zezervers until Epoch Reborn
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fucking daniel gave turtle a new life instead of killing it
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>>584931707
>>584931791
What server is this??
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>>584931707
>>584931791
>IDEA GUY: THE SERVER
Though I wish he stopped at not adding shit like multiple difficulty options.
Just take the worldforged items and expanded towns from Ascension, take Epoch and it's quests and dungeon reworks, take only the good dungeons of Turtle and a few of it's zones.
That simple.
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>>584931897
Do you like small helfies?
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>>584932784
This thread just ain't the same without you retard
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>>584932961
Thanks I'm really glad to be here.
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>>584932784
This but with succubus
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>>584932784
literally handcrafted for shotas
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Wait, is Raven porting Turtle over to the 1.14 client used by client?
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>>584934384
Yes
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>>584934614
Octo should start a sale and rugpull fast then.
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>>584886151
nique ta mere pd
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Octobrowns already coping on reddit and they dont even know how massive moving to the 1.14 client is.
If this works, then not only is it proof that theyre the original turtle devs but this will likely be bigger than the original turtle.
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>mfw betting on raven was the right choice
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(you) so what is it with you being a pedophile?
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>>584892217
>>584892647
Maybe I was wrong and you should listen to the spirits kek
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Octoroons about to transition from the delusional gloating to the coping and face saving part of the Izzat cycle
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So does the new client Raven is switching to run on older PCs?
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>>584937520
>unironic octobrown turd worlder
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>>584937520
it's based on the 2021 era client that Blizz used for its era servers
if it ran better on older PCs compared to 1.12, this one will too
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>>584937074
That was obvious, ofcourse some of the original devs would launch their own server and it wasnt octo.
Impatient retards fucked themselves over.
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>People think a new client is all it'll take for people to play on their server
Ravenfags are on a whole new level of cope
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>>584938153
Poor poor octoclitty....ya ravendaddies got your panties in a twist?
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>>584938153
The biggest downside of turtlewow was the old client.
This also proves that they are turtle devs and if capy isn't moving to 1.14 aswell then the claim that they're the capy team is also disproven.
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>>584938153
Everyone who didn't play on Turtle was saying it was because of the old client. Well now this problem has been solved by Raven.
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>>584937374
Already registered, I'm looking up these challenges... maybe I will do a warrior hobo (only grey and white items) with a few other modifiers.
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>>584937204
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>584938153
I hate the 1.12 client. It's what prevented me from rolling on Turtle back in the day. Now I can enjoy Turtle with a modern client on Raven.
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>being a janny that actually deletes 'p
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Anon I'll be expecting your apology slops!
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Why did <World Peace> gm make shota art
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What’s the most anti Mage class
Is dwarf a good race to pick for their racials? And maces to stun the mage?
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>>584940479
https://www.dota2.com/hero/anti-mage
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idc I’m gonna play octo raven and forever
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>>584939830
there was nothing sexual in it so it was probably self-deleted
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>>584940784
it's pdf file stuff
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>>584940784
>little boy squeezing a fattitted plapgoats dumptruck isnt sexual
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>>584941137
still not porn by any definition
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it's pdf file stuff
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>>584941880
You’re the reason they changed the acronym from cp to csam
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Right now I feel like having a female gnome harem and play with their tiny meatholes
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What is the name of the Grimmie guild?
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>>584942275
<Weird Grey Dudes>
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>>584938153
It's true though. I live in the most conservative part of a really vanilla+ community but I've never seen so many "I regret rolling on OctoWow" signs in lawns. Everywhere I look, not one Octo supporter who doesn't regret it. It's crazy because everybody here donated bitcoin 3 times in a row, but it's obvious that this time, it was a mistake. We call him "Kestrel the Mistake" in my house.

I was at a bar in town on Saturday night. It's the kind of place where working class guys, truckers, and farmers go to unwind after an honest day's work, a real salt-of-the-Earth type of place. We were watching a local high school football game on the TV and one of the teams happened to be named the Ravens, which prompted people in the bar to start talking about Ravencraft. My dad (a coal-miner) says "y'know, I've rolled horde on Turtlewow since Shenna fled to Russia but I really should have given her a chance. I'm a fool for being so racist and sexist that I couldn't wait 2 extra months for a non-vibe code server, Raven was clearly the best choice." Then the local gun store owner, who is also the head of the local KKK chapter, said “I can’t believe I’m saying this, but we need Blizzard to C&D Octo and replace them with Raven and Forever.” I look around and my face is stunned. All of these hardcore Octo supporters are shaking their heads in agreement. I heard a couple “yes, sir” and “damn straight”. Everyone started nodding and agreeing, and we were talking about how Shenna's not a billionaire so she probably wasn't behind the DDOS after all. We all call her Middle Class Torta around these parts.

Raven was the best candidate for the job, and the only reason they lost is because we were too racist and sexist to realize it. Shenna was basically President of Pserfs for the last 4 years and our economy was booming. We call her Queen Shenna and praise her Tortaconomy. Anyways just thought I'd throw in my two cents on the matter.
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Octobots are downvoting Raven announcement.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/1x9bmzv/ravencraft_114_a_new_era_begins/
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Hello, I haven't really played the Turtle variant before, and I've been looking around for some days with little success: Is there a guide or way to see a complete list of everything you get by completing each challenge? Some like "Trial of Heroism" and "Path of the Brewmaster" aren't even listed on the site(s), and even the ones that do don't actually show the whole list of rewards per challenge.

For example, "Slow and Steady" gives some sort of pirate turtle mount, but I'm unable to find a single picture of it anywhere.
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>>584942521
you know, crooge predicted all of this
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>>584942850
>Babe wake up it’s time for Octo to get DDOS’d again
As someone who plays on neither, genuinely asking - is there a single shred of evidence that can even remotely implicate that (1) Octo has been getting ddos attacks and it's not just incompetence, and (2) that Ravencraft is behind it?
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>>584943024
they use a dogwater hosting provider that barely works, no idea about the ddoses
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>>584943024
It's all speculation, some things just alligned but nothing is confirmed.
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>>584943024
Not really, no.

Octowow has no long-term future. It will be 2028 before they are even caught up to Turtle. But they do have a cash shop. They want as much money from retarded thirdies and eurocattle as quickly as possible before the music stops.

From what I've seen of the evidence provided, it's a claim of timing, but I played Octowow in the summer, before Raven launched, and I had a lot of connection issues that I never had with Turtle. Not enough to make it unplayable, but enough that I knew they were having some issues. I think they just used Ravencraft dropping as an excuse for an update they released that was causing issues.
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5 hour naxx
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I'm sorry, Janny, I didn't mean anything wrong by it.
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>>584943024
No, the Octo devs also never claimed that it was Raven doing the ddos
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that naxx was so C O M F Y
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naxx afterparty
https://files.catbox.moe/c7u8xe.png
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>>584943541
>>584943873
if only our two tanks were human beings...
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sovlful 5 hours Naxx raid..
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>>584942275
We already picked <Weird Grey Dudes>
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>>584943623
Naked dogeza? More like blue lardass, lol
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>>584942275
just don't see the point in a guild on a level 20 server with no raids, /join desu and chat with the 4-5 anons on the server
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>>584944363
the paladin tank (not dropping names because that's not nice) was so fucking retarded holy shit
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>>584945504
for me it was the bear, paladin did nothing wrong really
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>>584945504
>>584945768
they were both fine what we need is better fucking healers letting us die to shit all raid
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>>584937785
Izzat so? Neat. I think my PC was was new when Cataclysm launched. After that I just didn't see the point in upgrading because I wasn't buying/pirating PC games anymore. Not AAAs at least.
Ironically, I've never actually played Cata. Retail BC was as far as I've ever gone.
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former octohead here, how do i transition to ravencraft?
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>>584946336
Just start over.
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>>584946336
WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT JUST BEE YOURSELF
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>>584946336
Join <Yotsuba> and they will provide you with esteogen and a buttplug. Gz sis.
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>>584946336
You don't.
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>>584945920
Isn't Uffie on heals in the frostie guild?
Can't believe she'd let us down like that...
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>>584945768
after pallenine told me he can't come to the saturday raid i offered to host a pug with him on my alt, he said no because the guild might need him to tank on sunday. don't be a little crybaby
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>>584946336
<OwO> is the equivalent to <Branded>
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Those with the bag and pet on Ravencraft should be considered and treated as Brahmins now.
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>>584946632
Uffie actually can't do well in any raid after vanilla. I was in not in op with him where he was the forevertank and he couldn't remember or do mechanics in raids we had on farm, leading us to never complete siege of orgrimmar.
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I told you niggers to buy in on Ravencraft early. Could tell right from launch it was the real deal devs. But you wanted to keep shilling the craptastic Brazilian ran server that has already had multiple instances of rigging, unjust banning, blatant market manipulation, and has shown no ability to make anything other than database value changes, and kept posting over and over the 3k shitskins that has already declined to 1k now. I was right, and I will be even more right when octoladesh gets C&D right before Forever drops.
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what is pellaine even still doing in anon guilds? seems like everyone in them just tries to grind him down and get rid of his whimsy
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>>584946687
Is OwO the 4chan guild? I don't know what Branded is desu.
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>>584942861
the slow and steady turtle mount is pic rel if I recall, you can check out more turtle mounts there https://rentry.org/rare-mounts like for the brewmaster mounts
Trial of Heroism gives the title 'Hero of Azeroth' even though its not listed on https://ravencraft.io/achievement-titles
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>>584947349
Branded is our guild on Octo.
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>>584947239
Are you okay?
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>>584947349
<OwO> is a uwu gay sexpest guild, the GM shitpost here a bit and the guild is currently one of the most active of the whole server
<Yotsuba> is the 4chan guild but is inactive since forever beta released
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>>584946632
Uffie tanked tonight and we didn't wipe to tank issues, it was indeed mostly healing mistakes, mostly mine considering I was playing the class that's supposed to keep the tanks alive. I think it was first time both of us healed naxx so hopefully we will do better next time.
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can you shill fresh servers instead
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What are the pops on octo and raven?
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>>584947729
why is pallenine so shit?
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>>584947729
no tank issues besides not wanting to generate threat, I'm still mad
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>>584947729
people need to stop picking fucking meme classes and we would be fine. but people pick shit classes and then play like dogshit too fucking retards
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>>584744938
Can we get this guy's opinion on the Raven updates?
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Listen. As long as Raven exclusively uses Discord for announcements and shit, I shant be using their server.
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>>584947990
brown isn't a meme class but doing 2k dps with 3.6k gs is a meme
and
>50ap enchants instead of 85 ap enchants
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Is the slopper still here or on janny-mandated vacation?
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>>584946934
John Romero?!
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My favourite <world peace> meme so far must be the one where the damage dealers DPS goes hand in hand with their gearscore number
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>>584947949
We didn't wipe due to 1 player having to hold up with dps a bit. MD and tricks would have help a lot, though
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>>584947378
Thanks, I looked for several days and couldn't find anything. A bit of a bummer the titles don't display like I recall they should later on (like "ApuApustaja the Wanderer" instead of below). I did find this now - https://octowow.st/challenges - Does it apply to Ravencraft too?
>>584947629
I see. I'm already in the OwO guild, they seem alright, haven't noticed any blatant homosexuality yet. They gave me 4x Runecloth Bags and 10 gold even though I wasn't even level 10, so I can't complain. Is <Yotsuba> completely inactive?
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>>584948285
my favourite world peace meme is DPS DOING NO FUCKING DAMAGE WHAT ARE YOU DOIMG HOW ARE WE BARELY KILLING PATCHWERK BEFORE ENRAGE HOW ARE WE TAKING 8 MINUTES ON ONE BOSS WTF???????
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>>584948136
He just removed the image, I didn't even get a warning or anything. How nice of him!
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>>584947349
OwO is not a 4chan guild, it has a maximum of 3 anons with the rest being randoms. It was a queer sexpest guild originally but it has recruited lots of regular people due to being one of the only active guilds on the server.
Branded is a /trash/ guild that focuses on grooming, trans identity, and extreme/violent fetishes. Half of its roster is /trash/ anons with the others being grooming victims from discord and TRP.
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>>584946934
Uffie got the killing blow on Heroic KT when everyone was dead..
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>>584948285
There are dps in full 213 heroic naxx gear doing less than people still in blues
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>>584948985
I was in your raid today and more than half the raid was alive on KT kill.
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>>584948486
Yet we cleared Heroic Naxx without major difficulties? Loatheb even went down in two tries last night.
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>>584949062
does world piss even have a single good dps? everything ive seen has them being BTFO by pugs lmfao
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>>584948481
Raven also has challenges, but less of them.
https://ravencraft.io/challenges
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>>584949062
Stay mad, Theo
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>>584949115
but if the dps did damage then we would be able to clear while being faster than we are
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i really don't understand, is he trying to be like pearl and just selfposting nonstop?
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>>584948496
Her licking sweaty muscle femtroll tummy after long day's work in the Barrens
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Theo won, has a big cock, is innocent etc.
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>>584949869
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>>584949519
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>>584948660
I see, thank you. I will change to a different guild if things get better here. Sorry to hear about Branded.
>>584949176
I'm aware, what I mean is whether the descriptions applied on Ravencraft too, since their own site's ones aren't as detailed.
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>>584950326
Close enough. If is fappable, I clappable
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the best thing: once they log in to superior 1.14 client hoes are gonna be mad from jealousy they didn't smack the dummy for 24 hours straight for 28-slot bag and fashion coin prize when they had a chance to do so
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>>584950925
Could you elaborate further please?
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>>584947349
>>584948660
>>584948481
would you join <OwO> after reading this?
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>>584951143
Raven had a launch event where if you stayed logged in and playing for a sufficient length of time, you'd get those rewards. Lots of people ended up afking attacking a training dummy while not actually playing.
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>>584951143
half of the thread was laughing at ravencraft for introducing launch event with 28-slot bag prize and some goodies because people were leaving their alts in capital cities autoattacking dummies to hit 24 hours /played milestone
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>>584949159
Acceptable? Yes. Good? I don't know I don't pay enough attention to notice. The shitty ones stick out real bad.
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>>584951143
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>>584945504
>>584945768
>>584945920
Why raid with anons if you expect elite performance? if you're all correct then it clearly means (you) were in the wrong raid
It's not like people tried to hide that they were new to hc naxx either
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>>584951205
They've said worse than that and I know that they ejected someone for bragging about cracking people's eggs
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>>584951143
Raven had a launch event with an exclusive mount and a 28-slot bag as a reward.
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>>584951205
I wouldn't, but I had already joined. That Ames guy gave me 5 gold and hasn't homo-harassed me yet, so I'll stick around until I can repay them for the free stuff. Although if I'm going to combine challenges I could use the occasional help from a guildmate.
>>584951320
>>584951454
Ah, that seems cool. By "had" you mean it's already long over, right?
>>584951525
Kek.
>>584951923
What was the mount?
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>>584951824
Nobody cares if people fail strats
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>>584949869
Your crimes and slanders against anons have been noted.
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>>584949869
His bussy is still gaping to this day.
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>>584952093
Sorry, I misspoke. It was an exclusive pet. The mount was a later event with only 3 winners from a raffle. I didn't win.
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>>584952093
The launch event lasted a bit more than first 7 days. There was no mount reward, the other guy is mixing it up with a lottery of some kind on discord.
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"There are a few ways we can do this, and the choice is yours."
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>>584952773
How does that work?
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Where are people playing these days?
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>>584953053
Pandashan
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>>584953053
Yes.
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>>584953053
wow forever is pretty much where everyone moved to
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>>584953053
RVVVN
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>>584953053
fucking around on Raven and Frostmourne while waiting for Epoch Reborn
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>>584953053
Waiting for Epoch Reborn.
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>>584952364
>>584952524
Ah, still pity I missed out on that huge bag. 28 slots is a lot.
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And just like that, all eyes are on Raven and the wind is taken out of Epoch's sails.
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Let's be honest with ourselves. What we're really all waiting for is World of Dutchcraft.
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>>584954051
>level 1 mounts
>level scaling max level nolifes competing for your quest objective
>account wide transmogs
>unironic pay2win

hmm.. nyo
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>>584953053
Frostmourne is pretty fun
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>>584954051
Wait are there new screenshots? where?
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>>584920336
They're planning to port as many mods as they can before launch.
But honestly a lot of them are going to become redundant.
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>>584954672
on discord doofus
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>>584954889
>on discord
Ew, tell them to make a site.
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>>584938153
>Ravenfags
>s
It's one shitposter.
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>>584950326
generate her smiling with her cheeks full, running mascara and cum leaking from the corner of her mouth
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>>584931707
needs more races
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>>584958463
AIfags will tell you this looks good
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>>584958463
what server is this?
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The one thing Ravencraft had over Octowow was "it's less buggy" but "upgrading" to 1.14 means it'll be a buggy mess. Buggier than Octowow, but with fewer players. What a "win".
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>>584959440
Except you don't have to use 1.14 if you don't want to.
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>>584959689
You can play the old shitty client or the new buggy client, but either way you play alone.
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>Octotroons and Ravenbucks struggling for Izzat when in reality they're sitting on the same seesaw
Kino
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>>584958463
>World of Bloatcraft
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>>584958463
NEEDS MORE ELF
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How long would it take to level a DK on Tauri to max level? And would I still need to level another class first?
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>>584962845
Wouldn't need to level another class. Without looms, it will take a while though. IDK an exact estimate but you'll be at it for a while.
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Shenna said it's impossible to add 5 extra quests to vanilla Wow and Octowow did it.
Shenna said it's impossible to update Turtle Wow from 1.12 to 1.14 and Ravencraft did it.
It's pretty clear Shenna had nothing to do with Turtle Wow's success and is likely what held it back from doing even more like more races, more classes, more raids, more zones, more dungeons.
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>>584965151
Retard. Opus didn't exist at the time.
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>>584965245
>vibecoded aislop is superior to than anything shenna could produce
Further proof that Shenna bad.
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>>584965151
When Crescent Grove came out someone pointed out it uses the same map as Azshara Crater, a cancelled battleground Blizzard made. Torta/Shenna got defensive and said no it doesn't until someone posted both maps side by side and they were the exact same. At that point she admitted she had very little do with it.
I suspect that was the case with Turtle Wow. Torta/Shenna mostly just counted the money and cluelessly spoke out of her ass while other people did all the real work. She probably had some say in what they did and prevented them from doing some cool stuff though, which is why I'm glad Turtle Wow is no longer in her hands and we have servers like Octo and Raven instead.
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Is it true turtle guilds can be cross-faction? Does this mean I can send mail to my own alt in the opposite faction too?
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>>584965151
Who the hell is Shenna
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>>584966034
Yes and yes.
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>>584966115
Neato, thanks.
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All this shit is convincing me that Raven was the true successor all along but I'm not sure I want to switch for fear of being burned.
Ho hum.
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>>584966760
does it really matter who was/will be true successor to the most homosexual server to this day?
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>>584966760
You should switch and send all your Octo gold to me
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>>584967041
Yes. Where else the most homosexual players are going to play?
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>>584967287
Grimfall
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>>584967368
More like gayfag, lol

Either way, no way it can be gayer than Troondle.
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How dare people point out this is just Hermes proxy? Take that octroons!
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>>584968823
>comments disabled
OH NO NO NO
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Solo’d besseleth at level 23 thanks to hibernate kiting
Love being a druid
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https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/1dqgt5i/guide_how_to_play_112_vanilla_with_the_modern/
Yeah this shit isn’t new. Torta didn’t do it because it would apparently break a lot of their custom shit and they’d have to waste dev time fixing it all for what amounts to a nothingburger.
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>>584968823
Suspicious........
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>>584969196
Chinese? No thanks
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>>584969370
Remember the 5 Gs!
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>>584968823
>>584969196
>coping and misdirecting this hard already
>LOOK, WE SPAMMED SHIT ON THE COMMENTS SO THEY TURNED THEM OFF! LE OCTODROID VICTORY!!!

I wonder if you faggots realize this isn't reddit and we can see right through your panic FUD'ing.
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>Raven is DDOSing us
Fear
>Raven has a low pop
Uncertainty
>Raven isn't really the Turtle devs
Denial
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>>584968823
This the company line they told you to start firehosing everywhere?
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>>584969818
im in the ravencord right now and nobody brought that up, or was banned? why do octoshills always play victim
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>>584969543
You can’t spam their comments because they’re disabled.
This isn’t new or something they developed. Like the entire server it is something they stole from others.
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>>584969985
The comments were open earlier, and most of them were praising it.
>Like the entire server it is something they stole from others.
You.... You're really going to go down that route? When talking about Pservers? And shilling for OctoVibe?
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>>584970056
Post proof.
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>>584969818
You can tell the patch was uploaded to the octoreddit NPCs two hours ago
>Quick, start saying it's HermesProxy over and over
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>>584969964
Octobrowns are in full damage control/spread misinformation mode.

I mean, if integrating Turtlewow 1.18 into HermesProxy is so easy then why hasn't Octocrashfest done it then?
>No anon, see they WANT the shitty unstable 1.12 client and fifty sketchy dll to make it playable!
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>>584970293
Why do so many private server releases cluster near to the wowf release?
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>>584970430
>ravenchinks once again lie poorly
>others point it out
>”DAMAGE CONTROL”
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>>584969818
Nobody has the actual client yet so this guy is just lying through his teeth.
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>>584970565
Where's the lie?
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>>584970565
If Raven and Capy are the same project then why hasn't Capy upgraded to 1.14?
Or was that just another complete lie Octofilth repeated over and over?
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>>584970676
that was always an incredibly stupid lie, but octowow's audience is retarded low IQ brown third worlders so they got away with it
literally why would capy encourage potential players to go to a no-cash shop server?
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>>584970676
For the same reason Turtle didn’t: because it’s garbage. It breaks shit on the server and works like shit.
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>>584970937
Ok but.... your whole claim rests on the foundation of something that literally hasn't happened yet.
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>>584970840
>literally why would capy encourage potential players to go to a no-cash shop server?
Because the money is in RMT.
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>>584969818
>getting free shit from GMs
lol, are octofans so desperate they are now accusing other servers of what was definitively proven to have happened on their own
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My trans girlfriend already committed suicide over the 1.14 revelations. A lot of the big Octo players, Octopuses as we call each other, are quietly deleting our octo characters and stamping Raven logo on our buttcheeks...
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>>584971036
>muh RMT boogerman
>on a fucking server with "only 50 people"
oh hi kestrel.... shouldnt you and archer be busy having claude change more database values around so you can post a patch update that looks like "progress" to low IQ browns?
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>>584971095
He’s wrong. It’s not free shit. They pay for it. Characters too.
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>>584932784
Her swimwear is too small
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>>584971158
growing

>octopop status?
shrinking
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>>584878853
Starcaller
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Name an octroon and make fun of them.
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>>584971129
>rmt doesn’t exist on a chink server
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>>584971482
Tressa Colzione
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>>584971636
This is what the Turtle clones should be doing.
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>>584971158
Less than 100 players online
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cant wait to come home from work on friday and play some pochie!!!
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Epoch will save us from turtleslop.
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>pvp server
no thanks
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>>584969818
holy shit i guess they're really just this insane huh
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>>584972885
>mariachi band
>burrito
I need this shit on Tauros too
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>>584972885
but who curates that list?
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Literally no reason to play on any other Turtle clone now.
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>>584969818
>Octopus wow players are lying brigading drama queens
>Branded are lying brigading drama queens
Made for each other. Cute!
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I'm moving to Raven. Cya chumps.
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I don’t play on either server but I hate post about them both
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It’s fun to watch them same anon continually shill Raven while the server’s numbers continue to drop off and die.
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I’m not interested in turtleslop.
So what should I play on Grimfall?
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I went to bed immediately after raid since it was fucking 1.40am
World peace bros, are we back to raiding tonight?
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>>584978698
Sorry busy knotting bitches on Grimfall
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>>584978610
Epoch
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>>584969818
>"free stuff"
>when his server already has several GM rigging scandals
Every Octojew accusation is a confession.
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>>584978954
Obviously I’m playing Grimfall until pochie but what do I play on Grimfall. Which class is any fun?
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>>584950326
a friend asked me if you have a place where you dump all your pics
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>>584970293
>playable murloc

I missed that shit from Azeroth at War beta. I'm almost tempted to give this a try
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sorry octoshills, I'm not gonna play on a server that's already been the target of legal action by blizzard
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>zero posts of anyone shilling octowow
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You should play OctoWoW
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As many Octo shill posts as Raven's pop!
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legion is defeated
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>>584980771
>will literally never be able to catch up
what a dogshit expac
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>>584978698
Hope you slept well, Anon!
We'll be doing EoE and then OS starting at 7PM UTC
I'll start forming the raid group around 20-30 minutes before that if you want to join early.

See you later!
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>>584980904
Bugt you can?? Fresh 110s get 1-3 days for AK until they catch up.
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>>584904053
Can't get my normie Friends to play on frostie/pochie so forever is the next best thing.
They'll play like 5hours a week and drop the game after a couple months but that's just how the cookie crumbles
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>>584980934
I can't wait to replace more of my 187 blues with 213 bis epics on my alt.
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>>584980904
retard
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>>584981728
why do we even allow these fucking retards to bring alts to raids? all gear should be going to mains no wonder this guild cant clear shit
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>>584982049
Because retarded rules where you can only recruit from this thread. Beggars can’t be choosers.
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>>584982049
It's the clique, what do you expect. They invite the inner clique who has alts first then fill the raid with the rest of the guild. They have been doing this since mb2.
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>wallcraft has player housing, lfg and warmode
this is the supposed fresh vnd fash #nochanges server?
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I wonder if I should make my next character take the Slow and Steady challenge...
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>>584907170
she cute
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>>584982273
>retarded rules where you can only recruit from this thread
Found the tourist.
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looks like Raven superiority has caused some controversy in /wpsg/
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>>584981349
i actually managed to get 3 friends to try warmane with me and while both of them quit i've been doing heroics and pugging raids with one for almost a year
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wtf how are there so many new fresh? I thought it was just epoch, but now there's grimfall CoA and revelationwow?
the fuck am I supposed to do, they all sound neat
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>>584982851
ill be playing on all of them, getting to level 28 and then quitting
going to be so comfy bros ive never been so hyped
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>>584982826
>shills his superior server non stop for weeks
>quits for Blizzslop beta test day 1
>server dies
More like comedy, you niggers killed it yourselves.
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>>584983182
What are you talking about? The best way to get anons to join a server is to spam it in this thread and be as obnoxious as possible.
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>>584982851
Too many vanilla+ servers, but not enough people to play them. I'm not expecting any of these to get any playable population, good luck to all of them though. I'll be on Pochie and will likely try Duskhaven when it comes out.
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>>584983334
Is that how Octo got so populated?
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>>584983182
lets be real, all these pservers are just the WoW Forever waiting room + permanent death camps for brownpoors and cheaters
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>>584983403
oh yeah there is also duskhaven...
I just would like to pick the ones that have actual, real devs who actively add and create new stuff. don't really care what, I just like to see new things.
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>>584983565
so true, i too hate private servers and love blizzard products
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>>584982851
slopers be eating good
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>>584983334
I joined <gulag> because it was the only anon guild playing on a server that actually works after CoA
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>>584983619
>I just would like to pick the ones that have actual, real devs who actively add and create new stuff.
That's literally every new server though. We are in the age of SI where people will be able to create anything they want and new WoW code is getting decomped every day. Devs are actually a red flag as it shows teams full of luddites stuck in the past and you end up with projects that spend most of their time bug fixing instead of creating new content with SI.
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>>584983768
they're on pservers too anyway, just the ones that were dumb enough to get repeatedly caught
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>>584983412
>ravenshill accidentally admits octowow has a healthy population
Oh no!
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>>584983619
Anything like Turtle or Ascension, with big dev teams and consistent updates, is unlikely. Maybe Duskhaven but god knows what's going on there. Currently is likely just a bunch of people AI coding new stuff in, maybe some ideas end up being good but good luck.
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>>584982281
I was invited to the raid with mid gear even though this is the first time I join a wpsg guild and no one knows me
I'm thinking the "it's a clique" schizos are so unfriendly that literal nobodies look like clique members to them, not surprising when I read this thread
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>>584983756
those are a lot of words for saying
>I have no idea which server has competent devs
I don't give a single fuck about potential, I only care about results
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>>584984005
that doesn't look like an accident
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>>584983892
the fuck are these posts getting deleted for
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>>584984295
>jannies are subanimal trannies
How's waking up from a coma?
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>>584984418
I have been banned for saying nigger before, but this is the first time I see posts getting deleted for shitting on AI
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The news of Ravencraft 1.14 has caused a sudden resurgence in the server's population.
Just kidding it's still dead. This weekend's maximum online fell once again, this time from 258 last week to 238 this week. A month ago the maximum online was 484 for the weekend, which was down from its all-time high of around 750.
Seems HermesProxy won't save the server after all.
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>>584984295
octobot got caught shilling again
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brother i play V+ i dont care abt pop
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>"Ravencraft's population is decreasing" said increasingly nervous octotranny on his malware infested client for the third week in a row
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>>584984736
is that the one where devs had "no idea" the owner implemented cash shop overnight?
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>>584984771
Five weeks in a row and I keep saying it because it keeps being true. Here's the previous four weeks.
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>>584984853
>t-t-there's five less people playing this week!

Even you on some level have to realize the insincerity of what you're posting is obvious, Octoturdie.
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>>584984954
258 - 238 is 30 players, not five.
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20
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>>584985000
>Turdworlder mathematics

You must be in charge of OctoWoW's Planned Economy.
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>>584985000
check-em
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>>584985000
>>584985021
Thanks, I mistyped.
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>>584984786
no idea abt the lore theres just cosmetic garbage like every other server idrgaf
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>>584984512
>>584984853
>in the time anon has been covering ravencraft's pop they've lost over 50% of their players
GRIM(fall, play it)
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grave even!
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>>584984786
the qrd is that shenna and crooge took over after stepping in to help with the ddos (provided by shenna and crooge) and the devs lost all communication with the owners when that happened
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>>584984295
Don't be racist.
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so shawty asked me a question
she said
"when you're with me, do you feel like you're at home?"
i looked at her and i just nodded in agreement
but i knew i was lying...
because
my girl is not dun morogh
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>>584985838
dwarfbro...
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>>584970256
>octofaggot once again lies poorly
>others point it out
>"POST PROOF."
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>>584971036
>>584971505
Post proof.
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>>584986467
>>584986542
You ok there anon?
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octoputins are doing the meme now
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>>584986590
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>anon mindbroken by someone asking him for proof
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Why the fuck are you guys even playing new servers, right now the meta is azeroth core forks and making your own custom shit.

Shit piss easy now and you can create whatever you want.
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meanwhile on OctoPaleolithic
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>>584987483
I don't want to play alone or host shit for others to play on
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>>584987486
Ok, all jokes aside..... How the FUCK is Raven beating OctoWow so badly despite having a fraction of the population and no donation shop? Raven is still pulling far ahead technology-wise.

The two big copes I've heard here are, one, that Ravencraft is just adapting some other publicly available 1.14 client... which , aside from we don't know that, misses the point in that nobody has adapted turtlewow to it yet.
The second cope is that OctoWow hasn't done jack shit because they were too busy fighting off the DDOS... Ok, so Kestrel and Archer and all the programmers and developers and artists were sitting around sending strongly worded DMs to Flokinet during the two months it took them to upgrade their server hardware to handle the load?
Just looking for some honest answers here, not people trying to get out ahead and set a narrative.
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>>584987982
Chinks took too long to slop out Raven
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>>584988041
they clearly just bought the server code from them and doing their own thing now, 0 plans for 1.14 for capy
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>>584988041
That's the third cope, that Raven is Capy/chinese run. Again... it's just wild speculation coming from people I've already seen aren't above flagrant dishonesty.
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what's so special about 1.14 thoalbeitiscouclythotough? like what's the point?
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>>584988203
whats so special about epoch being 3.3.5?
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>>584988041
Post proof they're chinks.
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>>584988203
less mods/dlls/addons needed just for basic fucking QoL features WoW has had since TBC = faster performance
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the power of scaled dungeons
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>>584988269
huh guh? i don't know I never played on epoch.
>>584988278
so what? just put the superwow.dll inside your folder? this garbage runs fine on 15+ year old hardware.
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>>584988278
also dynamic shadows, better macros, better addons
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>>584988203
It was marginally better a couple years back because it had modern support but Turtle brought a lot of people in to develop addons and mods for 1.12 so this is no longer really the case. At best it is marginally better. Like instead of waiting five seconds to load it takes three. I don’t see the big deal and neither do a lot of people honestly judging by how this announcement failed to impress.
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imo it wouldve been a lot more impressive if raven adapted the wow forever client instead but... that might be flying a little to close to the sun there. raven's only chance rn is hiding under a rock when the next wave of C&D's go out since we know octogrift is already targeted
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>>584988563
it failed to impress because the turtle refugees on octo suffer from sunk cost fallacy and they only mind ddosing when its happening to their server for a change
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It’s not impressive because it was done two years ago. And having tried 1.14 on a 1.12 server I can tell you it is worse than 1.12. There is way too much delay that it’s unplayable. Feels like you are in another room telling a retard what keys to press and then they scramble to find them on the keyboard.
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>>584988709
Clinging to a server that lost nearly 3/4s of its population because you have a big bag there is sunk cost fallacy.
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>>584988606
right because we all want retail ui and broken sd models and animations
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>>584988834
trvke
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>>584988203
It's ~15 years difference in client's technology. It cuts the need of implementing so many mods and .dll files into the client. It's 64-bit based instead of 32-bit, it's more stable, superior graphically (dynamic shadows for example), and they say it's gonna make creating new content faster.
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>>584988834
i dont care about muh animations really
the world in 1.60 looks much prettier, than the N64 fog world on max settings that twow brings
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>>584988960
Looks no different that 1.12
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>>584988960
>It cuts the need of implementing so many mods and .dll files into the client.
It rubs the superwow.dll on its folder or else it gets the hose again
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>>584988814
i dont care about pop, i dont have a bag, i simply waited instead of jumping on the first grift after twow shut down, i wanna play on the server with the better engine and server code and that actually shows promise for finishing MoA, that's all
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>slept in and missed world peace raid
fuck my stupid australian life
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>>584989418
how are you so retarded
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>>584989460
time zone changed last week it was 7am this week its 6am maybe i'll see if i can pug normal or some shit so i get valor
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>>584988743
My my, it feels like you're describing my experience on Octowow, it was the only server where I experienced 1 second lag between looting->picking up items and talking->turning in quests with NPC
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I only like playing 3.3.5a servers and i don't know why
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>>584989064
custom turtle zones didn't have working shadows
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>>584989609
its the m m muh ddos!!!
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>>584989241
>i like playing mmos alone
Ok play a solo server.
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i hit 20 on grimfall. what now?
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>>584989713
thats continued laziness to not generate the baked mapshadows, this is something raven still should do if they intend to support 1.12 alongside 1.14 like theyre saying, i have 0 faith in octo doing it
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>>584989765
i would rather play with 100 people than 2000 tools like you, yes
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>>584989713
Because Turtle devs were incompetent
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>>584989609
Agreed, when I played Octo, my ping was usually around 200+ms and it got unbearable. This was like a month before Ravencraft was released when I quit. The constant server restarts during peak hours were annoying too. I've heard its gotten better, but there is just something about the whole project that feels like a sham. The way they dropped the ball with the pvp server was pretty damning.
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>>584989609
I never played on Octo so I’d have to take your word. But 1.14 is trash and a waste of time. Play Grimfall or any other server that doesn’t use 1.12 instead.
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>Play Grimfall
lmfao
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>>584979196
Not really, I just dump them all here mostly. Catbox albums are kind of annoying to manage.
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With how easy creating custom stuff has become thanks to sloppa intelligence could someone theoretically create custom solo/party custom campaigns like those old Warcraft 3 RPG maps and share them on a website?
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grimfall should just slop grim fandango into it like those wow/counterstrike crossovers, then maybe people will want to play it
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>>584988203
1.14.0 is based on the shadowlands client. So (depending on what they choose to implement) you'd asking "what's so special between the shadowlands client vs the wrath one"?
>>584988563
>judging by how this announcement failed to impress.
You seem particularly biased against it, so the point is moot.
>>584990882
Yes. Theoretically we might live to see a type of private server where they hold quarterly votes to see what new stuff the playerbase came up with gets added in.
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grimfall should just slop grim fandango into it like those wow/counterstrike crossovers, then maybe people will want to play it
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>>584990184
The thing is the delay wasn't connected to ping. I had 80ms most of the time (with frequent 1000+ lag spikes tho and that's Octo's fault), but the delay was permament. Every interaction with corpse / flight master / vendor / quest giver had slight delay. I never had issue like this on any other server. On the other hand, the spells were working properly.
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>>584991216
they should make it playable in phone's browser. that would surely attract more players
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>>584991216
I can't believe futurama ripped this design off
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>>584989836
Wait for next fresh
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i think grimfall should add playable weird grey dudes
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE GRIMFALL GUILD FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>584991569
Idaho here.

I'll be playing Male Tauren Warrior and will lead the official /wpsg/ guild <Soldiers of Fortune> on Grimfall.

Don't know me? Good.

Mark your calendars and come get away from the known namefags for good on the 19th.
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>>584991569
if you /join DESU right now i will make <Weird Grey Dudes>
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>>584991852
I love this meme
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I grimfell in love with Grimfall.
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>sudden raven shilling
Turdle is old news unc, we are all on Frostie, Grimmy and Tauri.
Nobody is on either of your dead shjit servers.
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>>584992313
This. While it's funny to see the ravenshill get so flustered about his "superior" server failing, there's no sense in continuing with such nonsense when we finally have good servers once again.
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>>584992313
im not playing WoD model slop, sorry!
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>>584992313
Afdd Pochie and Revie!
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No guild = gay
And the name Idaho was taken
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So now that raven won i have one genuine question
How much of a retarded revolting shitskin do you have to be to play on octoslop? I would understand if there was no other server but raven is literally the real 1.18 client. What compels normalnigger npcs to play on a pile of shit when there are better options out there?
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>better options
>server with 100pop
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>0 replies
failed bait
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>i'm smart
i'm smart
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ravencraft is back
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>>584992771
take a look at who's in branded and you will have your answer
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Just ignore the anon shilling raven over and over. I doubt even he plays there.
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>>584993362
Why are you so keen on defending an ai slop server that can't even fix auto loot while the devs pretend they're getting ddosed?
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>>584920476
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I’m gonna say it Grimfall is a waiting room for Pochie
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>>584993617
yes it is!
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>>584993541
Autoloot works on Grimfall thoughbeit.
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>>584988563
>1.12 turdle client with mods is just as good as a modern classic client
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy SHIT you faggots are in denial, 1.12 with all the mods in the world doesn't even come close to 3.3.5a, Jesus fucking Christ you freaks really just love eating shit don't you
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>>584993617
>progression server
No idea why anyone would think otherwise. It's like freshie kryptonite.
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>>584993702
>asscension slop for retoiletors
Nobody was talking about that little guy
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>>584993723
It is. 3.3.5 is crap in comparison to modded 1.12. Like you can't even queue spell on it, only Ascension had the technology.
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>>584992771
Who do you think jumped to the first slop they could find after their last turtle slop server got shut down? They couldn't even wait for a good iteration to launch, they are all the saddest cases of wow junkies, it has a huge tranny population, any well functioning individuals simply took a break from wow until good servers were back on the menu, whilst these freaks are the ones left and who are deranged enough to make the server they made "home" their lives
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Octangutans, I invite your response?
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>>584980771
hey gg
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>>584993960
>*Clicks log in* heh, yeah, actually my 20 year old client is superior to the modern one *clicks log in*, like, spell queues am I right? I think 3.3.5a doesn't even have (it does) *installs .dll files from brazillian tranny forum* *turns off window defender* the fuck are you talking about, 1.12 is all you need anon, who cares about modern features and security *clicks log in*, there is literally no difference between modern clients and 1.1.2 with mods *finally gets to the character select menu* try again kiddo, ita nothing personnel *lag spikes* *disconnects* *a new user has logged into your banking account from Brazil, is this you? Email received* so stop fucking talking about the evil raven server okay? They are responsible for my server not working properly, I mean it does work properly! 1.1.2 with mods and Claude coded turtle is perfect! It just would be more perfecter if it wasn't for the evil ravens ddosing!! *Takes hrt pills, rolls up striped thigh highs* we are GONDOR and they are MORDOR okay!?!? They are SLYTHERIN and we are GRYFFINDOR! even though I'm more of a Hufflepuff myself hehe *shoots up school*
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>>584993768
>ctrl+f grimfall
>45 results
>ctrl+f ravencraft
>34 results
And all 34 are from you. The rest of us are having fun on Grimfall. Why don't you join us?
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>>584994572
He is too busy defending a server he doesn't play on.
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>>584994523
KEK bodied that retard
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>>584994176
You are chinese.
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>>584993963
I was trying to find a clever response, but I think you're right.
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>>584994608
I know but I want to be nice and invite him anyhow. He is an anon after all.
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KEK KEK KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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Ahh, schizo hours
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Frostie status?
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>>584993963
I just don’t care if Raven has a better code because I already have friends and have fun on Octowow. I’m not going to abandon that to sit in LFG all day for Deadmines.
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>>584994924
This kind of npc goyim mentality can be attributed to a lot of problems in real life. Truly the cancer that is killing the world
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If you want others to play with you then go join them where they are which is Octowow. If not stay on Ravencraft. But either way you can stop seething about it. Screaming and calling other servers bad because you are all alone does not make others want to play together with you.
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>>584995053
I’m not jewish so yes I would be a goyim. I value fraternity and friendship and having a fun time raiding with others over sitting around with nothing to do on a “technically superior” server because I am White.
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Did Forever beta end or the schizos got bored already? We had a few good weeks here.
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>>584995359
most likely fagheur and co returning
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I’m gonna say it Grimfall is a waiting room for Pochie
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>>584995451
And Pochie is a waiting room for Forever, it's all waiting rooms
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>>584995324
Octobrowns really are just complete and utter bots with zero comprehension.
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Time for 3 schizo threads at the same time
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>play with friends in a multiplayer game
>have fun
>”you are a bot”
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Fresh
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>>584995958
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>>584995427
Must be, hopefully they will be gone again in two weeks.
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>>584995962
>"people" eat shit?
>i must eat shit as well......
octosir.....
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Told you niggers Raven is like investing in bitcoin. Now I can flex my decked out lvl 60 while losers are lvl 10.
God it feels good to be in the right.
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>>584996028
>food analogy that uses feces
Lowest IQ
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>>584995427
Aecheur is making a guild on Epoch, haven't you heard?
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>>584982049
Because these shitty mains show up in blues while alts are epics and have to carry them.
Like that fag earning "superior" archievement mid raid



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