Remove Sotoan EditionThread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7dz1CKLJY8Previous Mission: >>584836070>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
Belka will rise again
>>584906783The Swiss case is probably what Savia looks like in practice. Swiss cantons themselves would raise and maintain the troops then would sign agreements with foreign rulers to rent out their militias to them in their wars. It's not "the Savians" in a private capacity as such, but the actual state of Savia that rents out their military.
>>584907965>Slutoans really are freaks in the sheets, huh?wtf Baxter, you can't just say that
Which missions in AC8 unironically made you stand up and shout "KINO"?For me, Mission 20, Mission 21 and Mission 28
I cringed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6gVNCtNEr8
>>584908774You just handle the truth.The FCU won, Sotoa lost.
>>584908542>You are going to die<< NO >>
>>5849086693, 20, 28, 29 and 30
>>584908774Faking D.D. being the rat several times over was really funny, turns out he's just a loaded autist.
So anons if you were to create your own squadron what would they fly and what would their theme/gimmick be? I was thinking a bunch of Scandinavian witches who flew Swedish aircraft and were heavily into music
Ok, since QAAM, LAAM, and SASM are apparently not honest A2A SpWs, what is the thinking man's choiseI ask this as a chronic SASM spammer from 7
https://youtu.be/SQXGb2Q7jF0?si=TrefUanQyF1QGIKjThey should add this to multiplayer
>>584909197I kinda want a squadron with an anime or magical girl theme. Maybe civilian otakus that have planes with otaku livery. All die tragically, of course.
>>5849086693, 20 and 28. 8, 24 and 25 were memorable too, though mostly because of how stressful they were.
>>5849086693810111821232528 until the Topkek fight2930
>>584908669Honestly, the end of 30. I do not care that it's cheesy as fuck
>>584909415Sailor Moon squadron?
>>584909542I tried not to make it too obviously "Madoka but planes".
>>584908774I was able to forgive mission 30 for being as self-fellating as it was because hey, it's the end of Ace Combat 8 and this was the whole theme of the game, but the one radio thing of>This is how you make the Hand of Hope gesture!>Wow, it really does look like the Hand of Hope!Was a step too far for me, making me think of all that ridiculous class of youtubers who try to teach people about meme culture or whatever
>someone spent half a match of coop warfare in a EW plane trying to shoot me down but his missiles couldn't catch meSorry guy, the throttle stays maxed out on the foxhound.
>>584909197Fuck it, give me an idol squadron with EW planes that will support (You) on the field and sometimes blast their newest release in the radio.
>>584908669M22, shooting s*toans down while dodging railgunshots
>AC8 is secretly about family
>>584910636And that's what's so powerful about it?
>>584910636Vin Diesel collab confirmed for Online.
how much money do you think they'll try to milk out of us with plen dlcs
>>584910781Enough to fund Ace Combat 10
>>584908669Mission 3 when Tasha asks you if it's time to runMission 9 when the land battleship is introduced, the kaiju music starts playing and you are being shot by railgun immediately when you gain control of your planeMission 11 when you see contrails of the Podarges>It's a terrible idea, isn't itMission 26 when you hear a female voice doing the Shadow chant for the first timeThe entirety of missions 28 and 29
>>584909240HCAAs are surprisingly good due to a quirk of their homing(they don't get launch speed so they start homing immediately instead of going straight for a bit and then starting to home). HVAAs are just LAAM-lite so they're almost as good, especially with range abilities and parts. TLS is by far the best weapon in the game but that's obviously not honest.4AAM can be good with a lot of investment(they start massacring NPCs with long range spec and both guidance part, just have to launch them as close to max range as possible). They have the same quirk as HCAAs so they can be combined with standard MSL to "box in" a target between MSLs on their tail and 4AAMs going for their nose.
Bomb bay.Can you actually consistently catch up to these niggas with a speed part Mig 31 or are they always +1 ahead of you until the game decides you can shoot?
>>584911116I stopped using the full speed Foxhound because I spent most of my time overshooting the fuckersYou can keep up with a fair amount of planes, it's not mandatory by any means
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KxEmwOXv5sGod please give us the Gleipnir emergency sortie><< It... It just turned invisible?! >>>You can see the shape of it as it passes through the clouds>It uncloaks>Upside down><< IT'S CHARGING ITS WEAPON?! BREAK, BREAK! >>
>>584908171not if i have anything to say about it
>>5849086692, when shooting bomberss more out of the joy of playing a new AC than anything3, all of it9 when the land battleship uses the thrusters15, all of it18 when you shoot down the rocket19 when the battleship overheats27 when the megafloat appears28, all of it
>>584908669The last gasp from Land Battleship #1 where they try and fly that fucker bet the Captain of that ship was possessed by Cap Torres
>>584911116As a side note, even though it's a remixed XB-70, this has got to be one of the most drop-dead gorgeous plane designs PA has ever made especially with its wings out.
The FA-36/EA-36 wingtips canting down looks a bit goofy to me. Would look better how they did in Ace Combat 3, where the tips stayed slightly canted at an upright angle at most speeds and then go fully vertical (I assume for yaw stability) at low speed. I also miss the big dorsal air brake. AC8s Game just seems to slowdown via mysterious phantom forces. There isn't any spoiler or air brake anywhere, it's weird.
>>584908669Whichever mission had>It's a terrible idea, isn't it?and Moon-11's bossfight in mission 29. Mission 28 was a wet fart. Jobber 22 is going down in my books as the lamest nemesis in the entire series.
>>584910097>This turns out how they do the inevitable idolmaster collab>>584910764>AC9 goes full family >Play as merc fighting bunch of rivals but each time they get defeated they join you>Eventually by end your "family" is an entire armada of planes for an end game showdown>>584910781Well they certainly aren't going to be milking us with battlepasses cause once everyone hits 100 I suspect online is going to die instantly.
>>584912376Looks like a swan
>>584912472they're variable. they move up and down
Tewy has the audacity to ask her comrade be guided to Hortus Regis Altis, my nomad in Tengri, it's YOUR fault they all died in the first place.
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>>584912947No, it was the Terminus Fingers.
>its another fggtpowered matchFuck off man
>>584912472>>584912912What's the aerodynamic advantage of having the wingtips move to such an odd angle anyways? The Shidnen has the the same two depending on it's speed.>>584913117Speaking of I find funny that some people thought the Tonitrus were originally called the Terminus Fingers and that it got renamed, nobody expected it to be nomad spirituality stuff. Or for pilot Valhalla to be real.
>>584909240I think SAAMS are underestimated. They require more attention on your part, and can't be used when defending without burning flares. But they have great range and tracking and potential for some interesting plays with their ability to swap targets. I don't play the PvP modes much because I hate the netcode, but hypothetically you could pull of some cheeky stealth launches>lock onto AI plane in the background>fire missile>wait for the missile to get kind of close to an opposing player>swap lock to player>MISSILE ALE*BOOOM*
>>584912694And is about as evil as one too
>>584913526I thought geese were the assholes of the sky.
>>584913161Sorry, buddy.
>>584913351I assume they wanted to have them point down to emulate the XB--70 (or Ladon) which uses variable wingtips for compression lift at high speed. Doesn't look right on a small fighter though.
>>584913351Drooping the wingtips at high mach (2+) allows you to basically 'ride your own shockwave', significantly increasing yaw stability and lift while reducing drag. At lower speeds it decreases overall stability, increasing responsiveness while turning.Turning them back up gives your wings an overall dihedral, which increases roll stability and improves stall characteristics.There is an actual logic behind it.
>>584913351wingtips create vortices at high angles of attack. canted tips help reduce that effect and thereby reduce dragdownward cant is video gamey, but theoretically it would increase maneuverability by reducing roll stability
I get a slight chuckle when I think about those 2 fuckass gemerals that tried to escape with V-22 AFTER losing air superiorityThat was literally running into a pack of wolves, fuckers had no hope of escape
>>584910781who knows. 8's online burned me out in a month due to it not having cost limits/no spw lobbies. Ace Combat players are notorious for being surprisingly honorless and gravitating to only using the strongest metashit. unless they address SASM/LAAM/TLS/MBPMs i fear AC online has no hope of surviging longer than like 3 seasons. Not to mention how everyone clears the emergency sorties in like 3 minutes.
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>>584914853It's the superplanes. They unfortunately attract the worst kind of person. I just want to fly around in an F-16, man.
>>584913473Them having a clear defined weakness makes them infinitely worse than LAAMs. the fact that you can just fire and keep turning and burning with LAAMS means that even when you're being targeted you can still threaten someone 10000 meters out. SAAMs lose the minute someone decides its time for you to stop shooting them.
>>584912472>>584912912That's the Yukikaze influence showing.
why is the YF-23 missing from the campaign?
>>584914853>3 seasonsThat's one of the more generous estimates I've seen
>>584915368Locksneed bribe money.
>>584915037Not even just the superplanes. The amount of faggots in Mig-31 shows that ace combat players really are metaslaves. Are we really going to say that the Mig-31 is this many peoples' favorite plane? I've seen more people running Mig-31s than fucking Tomcats. >nobody running SU-47>nobody running flankers aside from the occasional Su-33
>>584915368>prototype>FCU is poor>not as cool as the SU-47 (which is unique, while the YF-23 is "another American stealth plane")
>>584915529>Are we really going to say that the Mig-31 is this many peoples' favorite planeYes
>>584915368PA didn't want any stinky protoshit in their game, but made a unique exception for the Berkut because fans would cry otherwise. That's why they also removed the Su-37.
>>584914853Ace Combat gameplay lends itself to speedrun autism levels of gameplay optimization and that makes PvP so much worse. Barring the most skilled players out there you have to use to meta to keep up or get fucked. And no amount of skill will overcome issues like a lot of Attackers being totally useless due to speed.
>>584915380They're going to squeeze money and playtime using assets that are already in the game. "land battleship raid/airships raid/shadows scramble etc etc. But they won't end up doing more content from the games before 7. Game will die and i guarantee we will never get anything fixed.
So... are we gonna go back to ac7 lobbies?
>>584915692But they're bringing back a Yellow Su-37 in a future battlepass
>>584914853I honestly have no idea what the fuck the devs were thinking when designing this game. Anyone with a braincell could have told them that the lack of costs and balance was going to be a problem yet they are completely quiet on the issue. Then again the only time we saw the devs actually play online was a livestream that ended in less than 15 minutes so I suspect they know it is awful but don't care enough to do anything about it. I also don't think it is also going to last a season because once people get to level 100 I strongly suspect the player numbers are going to tank. There are just so many fundamental issues that need addressed which some I feel could be easy fixes but I highly doubt we will ever see them. Which is sad cause I genuinely have fun flying around in shitbox planes like the F-4 and F-18 even if it feels you are actively punished for using them.
>>584915529fastest jet in active service, speed is funmy problem with the hound in this game is that it isn't fast. it's barely distinguishable from other jets in its tier and the top tier jets blow it the fuck out of the water in speed and acceleration for no reason. yet it can turn fight like a ballerina. i'd rather they make it a brick that goes 3k instantly, it's slow as shit in this game
>>584909197It'd be called 404th and it be lead by a guy called Thunderceptor who'd fly an F-4E and him and everyone else in the squadron would be so retarded I'd sometimes feel like bashing their head with hammers because brain damage and a concussion would make them more likeable.
>>584915368Same reason they took out the Terminator, to stuff into a future Battlepass. Probably an AC4 themed one.
>>584915617its not. It never has been. Obviously, a plane thats been in since air combat is going to have a lot of fans but even in 7 it wasn't showing up in PVP all the fuckin time. Again, more people running it than Tomcats and Raptors. Two of the most popular planes in the series. That obese fuck is broken and its the only reason why a lot of faggots are using it. if it gets nerfed watch it go the way of the F-2.>>584915736That might be the case but you would think peoples' planefu autism would override it.
>>584914853LAAMs are unironically fine and removing them would make EW even more cancerous. SASM is unironically fine and they're one of the only ways to deal with a Fullback farming points while keeping its speed near max(instead of slowing down for more efficient points because that would leave it vulnerable)MBPMs are downright bad. Nobody runs them unless they're just using a low level Morgan. The Morgan does not work as an attacker, and UGBLs have more radius than MBPM while having much larger capacity and much lower cooldown so you can chuck them out all the time. As A2A weapons they're mediocre.TLS needs to be FUCKING DELETED FROM THE GAME though.
>>584916052ACO is the perfect explanation why AC7's TLS was piss weak, because full-strength TLS in multiplayer is absolute turbocancer.
I think balancing planes/weapons is a losing fight for online and they should instead try and focus on making the missions more enjoyable. A shifting meta isn't going to change the fact Assault just outright doesn't have enough targets for 8 players
>>584916020The Mig-31 is not even the best LAAMboat and honestly it's not even the 2nd best.The reason you're seeing it all the time is that you're probably still low level/low MMR so you're getting matched with people that cannot even buy the better LAAMboats or the Raptor or the Felon or whatever their favourite plane is.
>>584915529>fly my favorite murican planes in single player>decide to switch it up and go down the russian line for multiplayer>foxhound good>flanker / berkut decent>fullback good>felon good>life is good
>>584915529I genuinely love dunking on Miggers with the F-14D since when it comes to LAAM spam the F-14D is legit better. Yet I still feel like I am piloting the F-14 out of obligation out of enjoyment even if I genuinely like the aircraft. I also think the new plane that people are using not because they like it but because its meta is the SU-34 cause it absolutely deletes ground units.>>584915935The MiG-31 in game is legit one of the slowest fighters in game but does good turning and QAAM make it quite strong in warfare. Still hate seeing nothing but lobbies full of them especially if they are piloted by Sotoans.>>584916052TLS needs to be blocked by clouds but even then it would be ridiculously strong.
>>584916481Yep. Especially when you put it on a plane that can chain PSMs indefinitely and has insane nose authority. You can point at anyone and just delete them from 6km away.Combine that with the shitty netcode and you just die before you even see the laser.
I don't know what plane to level up, it takes so long to level up planes and I don't have an easy answer because my planefu isn't in the game, has never been in any ace combat game and will never be in an AC game.
>>584916841Which plane anon?
>>584916020I think online multiplayer in general attracts people who aren't necessarily into the game for the aesthetic or theme, but just so they have something to play. A lot of Darktide and Helldivers players don't give a fuck about either universe but have dedicated all their autistic fervor into defining a meta for the game and telling everyone who doesn't follow it to kill themselves. Same goes for COD or Battlefield where a lot of it is compfags who cannot enjoy life unless they're curbstomping gamer dad who play two hours a day after work and actual literal children by playing the game like a subhuman ape. It's been like this since multiplayer was a thing, and 8 is no different.
>>584916620>I also think the new plane that people are using not because they like it but because its meta is the SU-34 cause it absolutely deletes ground units.Feels bad man, I've always loved that weird duck. Was so excited about flying it in multiplayer now that it's not exclusively TDM/DM.And now I just feel like a metaslave every time I do it.
Give me Fregata or give me death.
Is the left path bait for going for the medal? I can't get through the narrow space without getting beamed or over shooting.
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>>584915794I wouldn't mind so I can get the two multiplayer trophies I'm missing.
>>584912376Redpill me on the wingtips separating like feathers, this is an old design I've seen for a long time that says "we want our plane to look sci-fi"
>>584917057An AC game featuring aircraft like the Super Sabre and aircraft from around that period would be pretty neat.
>>584915756>i guarantee we will never get anything fixed.It must be very depressing to be so certain about these kinds of things
>>584915794Unironically better made
What is this multiplayer and is there still enough time to complete the bugman goypass
>>584916052I disagree. Because the weapons mentioned (aside from debatably mbpms but that can be discussed) dont exist in a vacuum. LAAMs are on craft that are already top tiers in their category. Mig 31 is incredibly strong. Typhoon is incredibly strong. the fact that you can be fighting in a completely different area on the map, chuck LAAMs disrupting another dogfight or flat out getting a kill while being able to keep turnfighting or disengage is completely fucking broken. SASM is tied with QAAMs for being the best dogfighting missiles in the game and force you to expend energy and attention, and are on the best dogfighting fighter in the game. (The Game). Im glad we agree TLS is bullshit though. And EW craft need to be deleted. LAAMs being their counter isnt good enough because LAAMs counter everything. ECM and IEWS need to have their usage count cut down to like 1/4th of what they are now.>>584916520MIG-31 gets the benefits of being a LAAMboat that can also dogfight and has access to QAAMs. It is definitely in the running for strongest LAAMboat. Do you think the typhoon is better? Also I'm max rank, no idea if theres even MMR because I get matched with demons and nuggets alike. Mig-31 is a constant. >>584916620Problem with the F-14D is that you can fight Miggots but thats all you can do. You're not fighting all the Gamefags, not fighting all the EWfags because you're not gunning with a tomcat, and for sure not fighting raptors unless you have a wingman who is on their game. Mig-31 can turnfight and engage Gamefags/raptors so I consider it to fill the F-14D's role better than it can. Also in regards to the SU-34, there isn't much choice for people who want to use attackers. Theres like what, 4 in the game and 1 maybe 2 are viable? I'll agree that they're annoying to fight due to how quick they are.
>>584917640Answer this man because i want to know too
>>584917318It can't be done, there's simply not enough soul for that to happen. also most players wouldn't give a fuck about the planes in it
>>584915809proofs?
>>584917640Possibly if you start right now and no life it. Know a few of us already have stopped playing because of reaching 100. Just be prepared for pain.>>584917713>spoilerB-but anon I would?
>>584917640I completed the battlepass in like 2 weeks or so. There's 43 days left to complete it so probably. The MP is very frustrating, though. Only commit if you're ok with a bunch of BULLSHIT.
>>584917640>>584917702Plenty of time left, you can do all the goypass challenges at any point. The goypass points they provide on top of the points you get from just playing is plenty.
How are the eagles in online?
>>584917820We're nobody, buddy...
>>584909197My squadrons would all be literary and music references and our AWACS would be Looking Glass
When does S-ranking missions on Ace actually get hard? Most of the run's been a breeze.
>>584917873This but how are the flankers also? if I cant have anything close to the 37 in 7 in terms of performance im gonna eagle hard
>>584915794idkyamyam you gotta purge the people from the squadron dailymaybe purge everyone that hasn’t logged in in over a week? I swear I whenever I get on there’s maybe one other person active and I play like 4 hours at a time
>>584917873F-15E is a good alternative to the SU-34 and you'll be respected more for using it.The others suffer from having rather mediocre and uncompetitive loadouts.>>584918060SU-34 good, see comment regarding F-15's for Flankers.
>>584917839I haven't found it too bullshitty just yet, other than players having really advanced planes being matched with my slow-ass Invader. But then, I don't like Warfare mode in general and I'm more frustrated by connection issues.
>>584917640>What is this multiplayerBiggest pile of shit I have seen in a while
>>584917873F15E is a great attacker it gets speed and SFFSF15C flies good and SASM are strongF15J looks good with the JASDF roundel and gives you the Samurai title. HPAA wrecks Arsenal Birds
should I buy a plane I like with zoll? or whatever the grey plentiful currency is
>>584917873>CGood dogfighter once you unlock SASMs. Supposedly the HCAAs aren't as bad as people think but idk>JGet the C if you want to dogfight or E if you want to bomb. There is no bombing in a fighter due to class damage multipliers.>EGood alternative to the Fullback, but harder to use under pressure due to the SFFS' altitude quirk. Also costs twice as much as a Fullback, which I'm sure is part of why everyone's flying the Fullback>>584918060>33Would be alright once we get cost-locked lobbies. QAAM, HVAA, and PSMs on a low cost airframe should be a neat package.>34Meta>35I'd probably just fly the 33, idk
>>584918476Currency is apparently not the limiting factor in ACO's grind.
Isn't this guy (flanker_ace) a youtuber telling people how to play online? HAHAHAHAHA.
>>584918187Interesting, thanks anon. What about the 35s?
>>584918476Fly whatever makes you happy, anon. You can carve out your own slice of fun regardless of what the meta does, even if it may be harder.
>>5849079657 slots in the squadron, kicked all the people who have rightfully given up on the online mode, though I'm guessing I'm not going to be doing this again come next week. Who knows if it'll even fill up this time
>>584916620sure it’s fun to dunk on miggers in the supercat but it’s objectively inferior to the 31. supercat has worse turning performance and doesn’t get qaams to spam in turnfights, you can only boom and zoom in the supercat versus doing it all in the mig
>>584916052>LAAMs are unironically fine and removing them would make EW even more cancerous.They are only "fine" in PvP. They need to be massively gutted in PvE.
>>584917702I occasionally do an online session and my goypass is already into the 60s with 40+ days remaining, so at least that's pretty forgiving.
>Try and use multi-lock AAMs in campaign>Every single time, without fail, the enemy formation instantly scatters into a dozen autistic loopsI fucking hate how utterly shit 4/6AAMs are in 8
>>584919045>I fucking hate how utterly shit 4/6AAMs are in every game they've ever shown up onFixed that for you pal
>>584917993We can't be putting borders in the way of our planes!>>584918724SU-35 or F-35? Both regardless fall under the questionable loadout for online for me.
>>584915529I'm leveling the 47 but I'm not good with it.
>>584918187>>584918413Not too bad, gonna go for E and CSadly I can't really play that often due to work, so gonna take a long time
>>584919146They were fine in literally every other AC game
>>584918752Sent, D-5
>>584908774Haters will say this is fake
>>584917671>I disagree. Because the weapons mentioned (aside from debatably mbpms but that can be discussed) dont exist in a vacuum. LAAMs are on craft that are already top tiers in their category. Mig 31 is incredibly strong. Typhoon is incredibly strong. My man these planes are incredibly strong because of LAAMs. LAAMs specifically do not exist on craft that would be top tier without them. Take away LAAMs from the Typhoon or Mig-31 and nobody would ever fucking pick them.SASM and QAAM are great dogfighting missiles with SASM being better at killing players who are just trying to run away and QAAM being the king of slow, close-range dogfighting. SASM is also the ultimate joust missile. And that's fine, they're not oppressively good at what they do.You remove those and dogfights become a slog that never fucking ends and killing any attacker is going to take fucking ages, especially because they also get 6-8 flares so good fucking luck nailing them with your HCAAs or 4AAMs or whatever. I think it's FINE for planes to be good at certain things as long as those things aren't oppressive or if they're good at too many things.I feel like the TLS is the only weapon that really breaks everything as it's good at too many things and it's especially good at deleting players combined with the game's questionable netcode. >MIG-31 gets the benefits of being a LAAMboat that can also dogfight and has access to QAAMsThis is such a fucking meme. No, the MIg-31 cannot dogfight, even with QAAMs. It doesn't get PSMs to win at low speed, it doesn't have the rate needed to win at medium to high speed. A Typhoon will dunk on it, as will a Felon, Raptor, Game, or really even a Gripen with a LAAM/SASM loadout.The MIg-31 is good and cheap to buy, cheap to upgrade, and can be acquired as one of your first purchases. But it's nowhere near best in slot.
>>584914730tewy and enso didn't even have to do anything since rex would shoot em down no questions asked
>>584917702>>584917640There's plenty of time for the battlepass. Online as a whole has some issues:>Caring about PvP is a fool's errand because the netcode is typical jap trash>PvE is ruined by anyone bringing a LAAM boat because they have HUGE supply, do HUGE damage, have HUGE tracking, HUGE range, and most importantly AI targets don't make any effort to evade LAAMs.>In order to level up your planes, you need to acquire gold blueprints>gold blueprints are acquired from the battlepass, from super weapon fights, and allegedly rarely from scrambles (i've never seen it)>you can't queue for super weapon fights or scrambles. It's a F2P skinner box tier gacha chance to spawn such mission after completing the aforementioned flawed modes mentioned above>If you do get the matches to spawn, you can only get 5 gold BPs a day.>you need 60 to max out a high tier plane.>the entire thing is fucking menu hell>need to navigate multiple layers deep to change modes from assault/warfare to scramble/super weapon when they proc>need to navigate back to assault/warfare afterwards or else re-queuing will just fail with an error because it won't let you re-queue for the rewarding modes>esclamation marks make it look like you might have a battlepass reward/scramble/super weapon fight ready>lol, just kidding. Thanks for digging three layers deep to check.I'm completing this first battlepass because I'm a sucker for Pixy, but if they don't patch something then I probably will tap out soon.
>>584919420I guess they're fine if you enjoy them missing 4 missiles at once even if enemy planes were flying a straight line previously but I find that somewhat hard to believe considering you have a problem with them on 8
>>584918989Fucking around with SPW balance will not fix Assault, the only fix is making it 2v2 instead of 4v4. Alternatively if they don't want to bother with changing the max party size for assault they could triple the number of targets.
>>584919832They were pretty good in AC5 and ACZ, especially XLAAs. They were your longest range option and if you fired them from max range and then turned away they would hit most of the time.
>>584919850What if they just made Assault 4 player co-op and not competitive with another team?
>>584919850It is ONE of the things that NEEDS to be done to fix assault. The mode has several problems, and LAAMs being massive piles of free braindead points is one of them. At least the fullbacks need to aim their tactical nukes even if that is a very low bar.
>>584920102honestly the whole concept of competition against another team is such a nonissueteams are simply too big for how many enemies spawn, make it 2v2 or make the maps have more enemies
Jammer is the most retarded addition to the multiplayer
The LAAM dominance has made me realize that the AI planes aren't making attempts to dodge missiles. Instead they seem to be programmed to fly circles around the player when the player launches missiles at them. At 10km the AI can't fly around the player, so they just fly straight into the fucking LAAM like sheep to the slaughter.LAAMS would be more balanced if they sucked vs fighters but were the primary target bomber fucker 9000.
The head nugget wiggles whenever you move cute
I don't actually see many people using the TLS. Anyone adept with it is a demon, but I see maybe one of them a night. 99% of the time the morgans are nuggets with burst missiles.
think AC9 will feature some kind of AI-powered superweapon/superplane that can hack other planes and ground unts and whatnot?
>>584920102That would work too and they should definitely do it. Increase target count as well just to be sure.>>584920106Or they could just fix the AI so they don't eat LAAMs for free? Clearly it's possible since the AI used in Scrambles is much less likely to just eat a free LAAM every time one is fired.Obviously they still take hits from them sometime but if you reduce the LAAMs vsAI hitrate from basically 100% to 33% it will severely reduce its ability to quickly farm points.
I find it weird how drones were a huge focus in AC7 yet they largely disappear in AC8tbqh I suspect the next AC could be the last for a human pilot
>>584921587they did blow up the drone factories didn't theystill, campaign features predators, mq-99s and, swarm and interceptor drones and then the triumphant
>>584921052Quite possibly. They were building up to coffin aircraft in 7 and 8. That could be an interesting concept if all the newer aircraft are being hacked you have to fight in old fashioned planes though does become your typical man vs machine plot.>>584921587Probably because absolutely everyone hated fighting them.
>>584921587Weren't all the drones only good thanks to Mihaly data that was wiped
>>584921587People really didn't like fighting drones in 7.
>>584921790>>584921854why, except for the finall boss drones it was no different from fighting regular enemies
Gripen top speed ability that cuts your ammo a bit is always worth it right? Only level 11 but it's doing 1589 knots on the deck now holy christ
>>584919696All of this is true which makes you wonder how they made a near perfect campaign.
>>584912376>even thoughAre you insinuating that the Valkyrie isn't gorgeous already?
>>584921975I run top speed, Gripen speed, and high altitudecute plane
>>584908669Unironically, mission 7 for the music.
Thank you for the scrambles and sorties you're making it easier to buy all the planefus I desire
>>584921587Same with the lasers and railguns being normal SPW on planes. Too complicated for the normgroid?
>>584921587I feel like that decision was influenced by the Ukraine war. Turns out drone warfare isn't autonomous fighter aircraft but rather swarms of quadcopters which is the kind of drones you end up fighting in AC8
>>584922282No, the FCU is just broke and also all those weapons fucking ruined online.Now they put them on a P2W plane so only the goodest goys that bought the deluxe edition can bully you with instakill delete cannons on an aircraft with the best PSMs.
>>584921854I liked fighting them but also felt we've seen enough of them by the end of 7.
>>584921587They didn't really disappear, they're just so commonplace it's not worth mentioning. You shoot down UAVs in the first mission, every superweapon utilizes them to some extent, s*toans try to blow up the lighthouse with them and Tasha casually remarks how they don't fly normally. They're just not really replacing pilots with them (for now), and are worming their way into other disposable roles
>>584921950Mechanically people were already having to get used to the new flight model, and they had to contend with enemies that basically ignored all flight models and did their own thing, so people had to figure that part out tooNarratively they're just boring, you have to wait until Electrosphere to start seeing one drone have any character, so when you compare them with any other fighting force in the series in terms of memorability or satisfaction they sit at the bottom tier with Pasternak's drones>>584922283Cool glasses, Baxter
>>584922473Could've just made [RAILGUN WARNING] pop up for if a guy is lining up on you with a railgun. Same with lasers.
>>584922535Where did you go?Where did you come from, Cotton Eye Nemo
>>584922535I really hope we get an AC3 remake just so everything about AC3 is recontextualized and made even crazier.
>>584918060>How are the flankersThem being "multi-role" puts them in an awkward place. Our damage values in online are based on the our anti-air/anti-ground stat bars on the plane select screen. So multi-roles end up doing subpar damage to both air and ground. Which sucks when you get a lock onto a red plane and see that your SPW will inflict 98% of its HP instead of 100%. Some get abilities to help offset such breakpoints, but not all.The warfare mode really wants to pidgeonhole the team into a meta composition, which is cancer to accomplish with randoms. You want one giganigga attacker to melt all of the ground targets. Once he upgrades to ACE he has a huge score multiplier for all of his kills, which can earn MASSIVE points. Everyone else's job is to mop up some air targets while escorting your attacker, or assassinating the enemy attacker. Fighters and EW planes are best at both of that. Multiroles are actively detrimental to your team's score if you assist with ground pounding, and they're just subpar fighters in terms of raw damage output in the air.Multiroles have more room to shine in the PvE assault mode. There they can always do something to assist in both ground and air combat. Their subpar damage bars can be a problem when fighting fighting enemies with more HP, but most enemies are soft (at least on difficulty 1. I've never seen the other difficulties fire). The Su-33 has good anti-air SPW but I think rockets are a meme in air to ground? The su-35 has garbage 6AAM as its default AA spw, and you need to throw sixty fucking gold BPs at it to unlock the HVAA. At that price most people are saving their BPs for super planes. I've been enjoying the Su-47 in assault mode. It's almost like a baby fullback vs soft targets, and SAAM are dependable vs AI.Su-34 is the game's giganigga attacker. Anti-ship damage, and superweapon gun runs are the two niches where it isn't fullstop the best.
>>584921950Drones didn't abide by the rules of other NPCs.>considerably faster and more manoeuvrable than standard enemies>could evade missiles at the last moment with a little pirouette>had extremely erratic flight paths, which would confuse new playersThere's a reason if the interceptor drones in 8 are much less impressive.>>584922743This, a million times.
>>584921950Because killing them isn't fun. I need to MASSACRE REAL LIVING HUMANS WITH FAMILIES to be satisfied. Drones could never provide the satisfaction you felt when you shot down the nuggets over expo city. Drones don't call you their ancient god of death and destruction on an open channel.Drones don't cry when you kill their flight leader.
>>584922907Kinda crazy how much influence AC3 considering it was created in 1999, years before Strangereal was even created.
>>584922568I actually like the drones, but only when they're together with the Arsenal Bird. Seeing 30 drones crawl around the big carriers and tanking shots for it is cool visually and gameplay-wiseThe MQ-99s are also interesting, but only in the container launched variant
Gonna leave proof here that CAN get your daily gold blueprints from scrambles because people still doubt it but don't ever count on it. This was a Difficulty 1 match too.
>>584922980Put in a few TIE/ins in there along with the TIE/lns. Also a few Z-95s along the T-65Bs.
>>584922980https://ac8-database.pages.dev/damage/#online
Every time I try to do my two dailies in this retarded online mode I have to spend at least 5 attempts on gettng kicked back to the fucking title screen, why haven't they fixed it yet? Why haven't they fixed fucking anything? Even putting minimal effort into this shit is frustrating
they should include basic ass A variants of F-16 and F-15
>>584923009But they die so quickly to just a few bursts of gunfire. I guess the problem with that is that AC7 had an awful gunsight that you couldn't change.
>>584923204Yeah I enjoy drones too, but I understand why people felt like they hung the plot on them and that was a problemI think we all liked Glamrock squadron that much more
>>584923353>15 We already have plenty of Eagles>16 I'd rather they add the V
>>584923253It's amazing just how fucking gacha tier all of the rates are. Also amazing how rare it is for scrambles despite STILL being time-gated to 5 per day.
>>584922980The Su-34 is not a Flanker though.
>>584923291With multiroles I think it'd probably be very dependent on special weapon choice similar to how EW helps with their ES/CM special weaponsBut good luck coordinating that ahead of time
>>584923704Scrambles give blue BPs(which you can just buy with ZOLL, which you'll be drowning in after the initial low level scarcity), E-sorties give gold BPs, which are the main limiting factor in upgrading your jets.
>>584923291>>584923291Ok. So it's based on role rather than the bars. Still functionally cucks multirole a good chunk of the time. I'm surprised that attackers don't get a bonus vs ships though.
>>584923156It's tempting to think Strangereal started with 4, but really it was always 3.
>>584918752Yo, Buddy. Using 04 emblem
>>584923874They'll add Bombers one day...
>>584923863>>584923253Anon LITERALLY just posted proof that scrambles can give gold BPs. The rates are just fucking gacha skinnerbox tier.
MORTE IN TERRAMDEINDE MORITURWhat if ACO is the history of razgrizNow it's a demonic kusoge dealing crashes and errors and a bad experience to everyone>then it dies>and after a period of slumberit comes back, this time not as a kusogebut as the best ace combat experience we could dream of
>>584924091I want to believe
>>584923740It's a heavily modified derivative of the flanker.
>>584922907Ace Combat 9: Ace Combat 3, But Kicking Dision in the Plums for Real This Time
>>584896797My read of Prez as a character and the lack of her when you fly the single seaters is that it's like selling your humanity / soul for power, since the single seater planes in PW are just better at the end of NG and even moreso NG+ / mercenary difficulty. You can have power (AOA module), but at what cost?
>>584924471>AC9 starts out as a standard AC3 remake>all seems normal>suddenly, new superweapon missions>the simulation never accounted for what Simon didn't know about, and that included classified weapons
>Major Betsyag was the original leader of the nugget flight>He died on takeoff due to an accidentHoly fucking omens were telling these retards that coming to fight was a bad idea but they didn't listen. They deserve everything and more they got.
>>584918752Sent, D*****Ma
>>584923156Game so influential it spawned a separate game series as large as its own as an offshoot
>>584924205Its NATO reporting name does not include "FLANKER" so it is not a flanker.The Berkut is obviously not a flanker either.
>>584924840Which separate game series is that?
>>584924957Saying J-15T/J-16 are flankers but not the Su-34 is a bit too far IMO
>>584924974I really like the idea that Rex was wearing the helmet the entire time, starting down the sotoans completely oblivious that he was blowing his own cover
Why didn't Tewy just pilot the X-40 from the ground?
>>584925249>starting down the sotoans completely oblivious that he was blowing his own coverno, it's finethe helmet made it so they couldn't tell he was staring them down
LEGALIZE TONITRUS SPEARS
>>584924974What were topkek and turdy even doing hanging around some village before nuking it from orbit
>>584925204Makes sense to me.
>>584925282Different Star reference
>>584925125Drakengard-Nier, started as a fantasy spin-off by the AC3 director, half of the dev team were former AC3 guys
>>58490866928 when Kate shows upi unironically gasped
>>584925363YOU'RE LISTENING TO RADIO SOTOA
>>584924957NATO reporting names are utterly retarded, sometimes way too late, sometimes are given to outright experimental planes like Su-47 and MiG-1.44.Su-34 is a Flanker because it initially started as T-10Sh and T-10IB program internally.
>>584925498Ah, you're right.
>>584925542CALL THE FCU, WE JUST SPEARED THEIR CITIES
>>584925550Flanker is a NATO reporting name that was NOT adopted by the Russian forces. Therefore it makes sense to follow NATO logic when deciding what is a Flanker and what isn't.Russia did soft adopt the Fulcrum name so that one has more leeway.
I got the goyluxe edition, is it worth popping the primo ticket for morgan or should i horde it?
>>584925498Has that series done anything after Automata other that 2smart4u stage plays, putting 2B into fucking everything, and Taro being the epic bacon sauce quirky Jap dev?
>>584925780If you love 0 get the battlepassIf you want to be cancer in pvp with the TLS get the battlepassSomeone post the leaked future passes
>>584925759Look at the size of those turret heaters, JesusNo wonder everyone melted
>>584922426Yeah, drones have become very mundane. Usea uses UAVs as force equalizers. See the UAVs in M7 and the VBIED drones in M9.
GentlemenDoes anybody want to play the AC7 campaign in coop? >https://github.com/layer10-love/double-trigger
>>584926136Okay I'm going to reinstall 7 right now but I want to see footage firstI don't beleeb it
>>584925706Eh, I wouldn't trust one wikipedia sentence about Fulcrum. Also, the reporting names are retarded because Yak-28s get three different names, but Su-7 and Su-17 are both Fitters? MiG-27 is also somehow Flogger?
>>584925828A remake of the 1st game and a dead gashaTaro is focused on his new Eva, One producer is on Dragon Quest and the Other is back with Project Aces so it's probably dead despite a few rumors
>>584926263https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM6q9Z1nkF4
It's a shame the PC version doesn't have native VR support.Played the whole game with UEVR. Aside from struggling to hold good FPS without INI tweaks even on a 5090 it felt like the way the game should be played.Cutscenes are mostly first person with Rex's body when you look down. In-mission cutscenes are often "press Y to look" where you could just move your head in VR. Cockpits are quite good.I don't think the lift to VR would be that big for a proper mod. Just resize and move the HUD elements like radar to the MFDs like in the plane which DESU I think they should've done for cockpit view anyway.
i can't decide between the f-16 and the mig-29. i would have loved to use any of the sukhois but im not sure how fun it'd be to take a multirole into PvP
>>584926313https://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/wdrc.html#_System_NATOWould this comprehensive database be better than Wikipedia?
>>584926316>Have smash hit with Automata because haha butt despite the story being worse than the first game>Do fucking nothing with it other than put 2B in a bunch of games and use the fame to direct a crappy evangelion reboot.
Based on the modifiers and everything Gripen is based and sovl
>>584926136I don't trust vibe-coded slop (from someone who has never uploaded a mod before) to not shit up my game
>>584926330>>584926136Cool
>>584926136Well fuck If only I had someone to play it with
>>584926530I was talking about>Russia did soft adopt the Fulcrum namepart, and not the rest.
>>584926330I meant footage from /aceg/I want to see people actually play it, not just the devs
>>584923291This isn't accurate. I know this because if it was, I would've gotten top score on the arsenal bird dropping UGBLs on it with my Su-34.
>>584926330>wingmatepozzed
>>584926625The future is now old man. Pandora's box has been opened. You have no idea on what's happening in the modding scene
>>584926718we can try it together
>>584926614>sovl>cancer laam lacm euroshitbox
>>584926479The Fulcrum's special weapons choices are frankly abysmal if you want to pvp.Falcon is solid. Multiroles do just fine in pvp. The class-based damage bonus isn't as important as you might think.Gripen, Hornet E, Flanker D, Rafale, plenty of good multiroles. Even the starting Phantom does just fine once you get some levels in it
Are (You) still struggling with the Chandelier?Pick up a SU-25.I will keep shilling this plane till the end of time.https://youtu.be/xM14RzlUMO0
>>584926919>You have no idea on what's happening in the modding sceneIt's not like we've been saying for years that people should JUST FUCKING TELL US
>>584926919Nobody does. It's a fucking black box. Just vibecoders saying "Claude, build me an Ace Combat game with a big titty protagonist" and it shits one out. Who knows how.
>>584927094Was tempted then I saw the AI disclaimer. Now I have goncerns.
>>584927297I wouldn't even know where to start, because everything has been moving so fucking fast over the past few months.>PS5 can now be installed on PC, not just emulated.>Wolverine is already fully playable on PC (albeit with shit FPS).>You know about game recompilations, but now we have decompilations. Multiple games can be merged into one, with their mechanics literally working together. I saw a slop fusion of Minecraft + Elden Ring + Overwatch + Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, with all their mechanics working in tandem.>Bloodborne on PC with seamless co-op.>Morrowind turning into a fucking TES hub.And now, AC7 co-op.I knew something like this would happen once your language became the programming language, but I never expected the explosion we're witnessing right now.It genuinely feels like we're witnessing a fucking Big Bang.
>>584926919I'm curious how quickly Claude can shove VR support into the preorder bonus AC Zero port.So far that port seems pretty decent, better experience than running it in PCSX2.
>>584924738Tewy what are you talking about these things are great SASM & SOD are all you need.
>>584926796Right, The source for that is a book written by a defector.So it could just be complete bullshit.However it at least has some small amount of backing so I'm willing to be more lenient on Fulcrum derivatives than Flanker derivatives.
>>584927868I meant more in the sense of Ace Combat's modding scene, which spent a long time sucking
>>584927868Wait for the big bang of malware this will produce as well, with C++ / C# / etc code that is so overly voberse and sloppy its about as readable as assembly hiding it.
Are there any datamine/leaks regarding future planes?
>>584927228That's the Rafale, anon.Gripen a cute with LAAM/SASM
>>584927296I'm stockpiling USB sticks so that I can level it up without flying the brick in other modes.
Ok the online is actual dogshit. Are they doing something about it ?
>>584928269try updating to windows 11, honorable gaijin-san
>>584928213different spw same cancer loadout
>>584928156F-14 RazgrizSu-37 YellowF-22 TriggerI'm sure someone has the full list saved
>>584928269They said they'll do a patch at some point, whatever that means
>>584927296I refuse to acknowledge this over the F-4 mainly because I dislike the SU-25 for no other reason but to tease you anon.>>584928156Yeah there was. Forgot to save the list though.
>>584928269see>>584924091
>>584928315>upgrading to W11 doubled the enemies on the map and made the game actually funThank you japanese man, you truly are my greatest ally.>>584928390I'm full of confidence now. Thanks.
>>584928269>japs>fixing their online gameslollmao
>>584926605it probably also helped that automata largely played better than replicant and gestalt until ver1.22474487139
>>584928529I love japs for many things, but they're so fucking backward when it comes to online games. Even the fucking menus are a pain in the ass. Its really like i'm back playing a PS1 game.
>>584928156CFA-44 ADF-11F SU-30SM Maybe Wyvern and XFA-27
give me 50$ for claude max5 and i'll give you a Zero VR port at 4k and a GOOD ace combat 8 online
>>584928882>vibe coded doodoo feces
>>584929016vibe coding implies that you know what coding isi'll do that without even knowing what coding meansIt'll be more like "i had a dream and then it became reality because the machine understood"
Now hear me out, an Ace Combat squadron full of maids!
>>584926919I have no idea how claude would even know what functions or scripts work in AC8
i got a sortiehow the fuck do i mass invite people from the squadron
>>584929232Maid Combat
Starting to want a Strangereal FPS.
>>584929118>the machine understoodThat's the thing, it doesn't understand. It doesn't understand what you want, nor what it's doing. It simply does, within set parameters, what it can using data that it has and data input into it as commands. You tell it to give you an image of an apple, it will scan its database for images tagged with 'apple' and create an image based on commonalities of all applicable images in its dataset. It doesn't know what an apple is and never will.
>>584929339>>584929232
>>584929560It'd be fun to play through the Megalith raid as Bravo
ACX: Not a single female character, best AC game AC8 finale: more foids than men, worst AC gamehere lies the problem.
>>584929661>"ALTMAN! USE YOUR HAND GRENADES!"motherfucker it is the last level I KNOW HOW TO USE GRENADES STOP PUTTING TUTORIALS IN
>>584929660This is both highly cursed by also fucking hell Kate in a maid outfit is top tier.
bait used to be believablestill butthurt for the /wtg/ humiliation?
>>584929661Imagine a mission where you have to lead an infantry assault against an airship, and during the battle it takes off with you on board and now you have to blow it up and then find a way to escape.
>>584929698ACX barely even has characters at allCrux and the journalist guy and that's pretty much it
>>584929938Obviously you commandeer one of its parasite fighters and the rest of the mission is air combat
>>584930103DIS IS DE NAIAD
>>584929938Shooting intermediate and full caliber guns inside damages the airship
>>584929839>Kate>Top tierWell, obviously.Kate would be top tier wearing a potato sack.
>>584930451She probably wears the maid outfit for Rex on special occasions but he's too much of autist to notice.
>>584929661>Siege of Farbanti>Megalith Raid>Cruik Fortress>Para Assault on Solis Ortus>Half of AC6>Stonehenge Defensive>Retaking of Theve>Land Battleship Clean-UpMake an infantry game now PA
>>584930451funny you mentioned
>>584930906At least put some pasties on woman. Sheesh.
Okay, i finished campaign. Fullback top bird, Felon take 2d place. Just what the fuck was in the end?Why Joker flight was disbanded?Why ace of aces serve as navigator for Kate? And what with all those references to AI? Also while first half of campaign was good, last half is suck both gameplay and story wise. Why even need to kill Purple Magic, to show 2 sec cutscene where Coster and Tan playing music?Why even need to kill Prof? And scripted missions just shit/10. Refund, divorce and back to maiden name.Idk if i will rerun on Ace.
>>584930906We need to get some real coomers ripping the models. AI just can't do proportions right, her stomach is way too short. I would guess Kate is at least 5'8" and she looks fucked up here.
>>584931127disrespectfully disagreehope this is your last ace combat
>>584931127The belkan AI are the real antagonists.
>>584930576>consequences of power as a mid-campaign character swap where you succeed only to fucking die
>>584930576Don't forget all of the Sea Goblin spec ops shit in AC5.Shit like that would fuel a call of duty for a decade
>ESL>is retardedGetting sick of these "people" tbqhwyf
How to fuck up topkek and band winged rats?The f-18 is just not cutting it
Holy shit. The 500 sortie title also unlocks the Shadow squadron skin.
>yfw PA actually do monitor these threads for ideas and feedback
>>584921790>Corpo employer gives you cool new box art superplanes for the final battle>Defeat the enemy ace squadron, mission complete>[VIRUS WARNING]>Quickly switch to manual control backup>Wingmen aren't fast enough and scream in pain from neural feedback as their planes become hostile and shoot you down>Recovered by the enemy and taken back to their submarine while your employer tries to erase the evidence>Rest of the game has you join your former rivals to take down proto-Ouroboros and give your meat-interface former friends the peace of death
>>584931286Yeah i hope too. First and last.Really lot of flaws for good flight arcade, and story is pretty linear and not engaging. No even hot springs cutscene.
>>584931127>Why Joker flight was disbanded?Tasha refusing the shoot her gun after Mission 30 would make her position in King a bit awkward, even if she did the same thing for Joker flightPersonally I'd add Jackpot 9 to King flight and figure out who my fourth wife will be later
>>584931839
Did the online servers just go down?
You missed the beach cutscene?... you didn't play on pilot, didn't you??
>>584931904But it isn't answer why J was disbanded tho.
>>584932035Yeah, dead across the board it seems.
>>584932102
>>584932161That explains it they went down just as I was shoving 2 missiles up the scramble's F/A-18E's ass >:(
>>584932035I'm still in game. Are you Yamyam?
>>584932143Jokers are wildcards, that was Cope, and the "Cope in your brain" ghost thing.Rex means King in Latin, so with Cope gone you're no longer a wildcard, you're a part of the Kings.
>>584931127>Why ace of aces serve as navigator for Kate?They were on their honeymoon after a successful yurt bombing over Sotoa.
>>584932327Just got back online
>>584930576>any time you're actually under threat you get deus ex machina'd as the resident mute bloodless psycho swoops in to blow it up>the more you scream their name the more often they come back to save youNot sure how fun this would be desu
>>584932143Probably just not enough pilots to go around with all the squadrons the Sotoans warcrimed.>>584931904Tasha isn't even Usean to begin with. Of course she's going to go back to the Yuke circus life.
>>584932452>afterNah son, that IS their honeymoon.
>>584926862Check out the "Damage model" section,enemies have different weapon resistancesLike amusingly, MPBM does pretty well on most things
>>584931127>Just what the fuck was in the end?RISE ABOVE>Why Joker flight was disbanded?Tasha probably went straight home to Yuktobania for college and stuff so you can't really have 3 planes for an entire carrier. My head canon is that the merged Jackpot flight into Joker and named it King for propaganda purposes and made new Queen and Jack flights.>Why ace of aces serve as navigator for Kate?So someone can fly the plane while Rex gets possessed by ghosts. Can also fanlore Rex not wanting to fight anymore too.>And what with all those references to AI?AC3 has AI copies of real people exist in the Electrosphere so Cope was basically just telling everyone that he's actually just a ghost, not an AI.>Why even need to kill Purple MagicDramatic tension and to make the capture of Theve cost something. Also make you hate the land battleship.>Why even need to kill Prof?Dramatic tension and to make you hate Luna 11.
>>584932658> Yuke circus life.But she didn’t become a politician?
Do we know how to get the Su-57 shadow skin yet?
>Türk enemy ace>Doesn't fly a KAAN
>>584932932presumably >>584931820
>>584926605There was some news before the eva announcement where Taro said that square enix kept cancelling the projects he was working on, so he was trying something at least.I really hope they didn't decide to start giving him the cold shoulder cause how weird his stuff is.
>>584932932
>>584931127you can’t even speak englishpost disregarded
Rebel forces are approaching the fort housing government dignitaries.
>>584933381>lot of peoples itt understand>you don'tWell look like you are the one who need to learn English.
>hehehehe what if the entire map is covered in low clouds lmaomission 5 is horrible
>>584933772Took that from PW
>t. i can't rotate an apple in my brain so i crashed into the water 3 times
>>584933772Retard
Is there a way to mass-open-invite a squadron to a party?Or does ACO yet again suck ass
>>584934365>Or does ACO yet again suck assYes
Wish the Su34 wasn't such a whale to fly
>>584931127>Just what the fuck was in the end?DD redemption arc>Why Joker flight was disbanded?Baxter dead, Tasha back to Yuktobania, Noise likely going along with Tasha. There wasn't anyone left of the original Joker so it's no longer joker.>Why ace of aces serve as navigator for Kate? Even the best need to rest from time to time.>And what with all those references to AI? That's like asking what's with the refences to electricity. It's part of everyday life now.>Why even need to kill Purple Magic, to show 2 sec cutscene where Coster and Tan playing music?Yes.Why even need to kill Prof?This is war, people die.Average bait, 5/10 got me to respond.
>>584931714I also caved and swapped to F22 for that. Guns guns guns is the answer.
>>584933002Not even KF-21 which is Kaan adjecent. Huge missed opportunity.
>>584931714Forget about missiles and just gun them down when they're doing their gay little air show maneuvers.I suppose buffed SASM could help a little too
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>Season pass doneAnd done with this online forever. God damn this online is so misaligned.
>>584935069>This is war, people die.Not if your side is competent.
>>584935850Good thing the game repeatedly tells us that the FCU is incompetent.
>>584936116Which is why it should have lost, and in effect did at the beginning of the game. But the black lady continued to fight on out of retardation even when everyone told her to stop, thus jeopardizing even more lives in the process.
>>584934992The su34 flies just fine. Its only problem is the fucking crooked gun. I also wish that it had SAAMS instead of hcaa
>>584934992I liked the silly duck in 7's campaign and I'm glad 8's multiplayer has a niche for Attackers, but I wish 8's MP balance wasn't so shit. Or at least it had a proper co-op mode and not PvPvE like Assault actually is.
Anyone else encountered one MiG-29 flying like an absolute ninja madman space wizard over DrinwichAll the 29s were basically giving me free kills (even on Elite) and suddenly one appears going fast as shit and buzzing around like a bumblebee
>>584935850every military operation calculates acceptable losses
>>584936206If it wasn't for the black lady, FCU would've lost. She's a hero.
>>584936398No, she went rogue.
>People quitting matches when they see the other sides line upThis is why you only fucking do 4 player coop.
>>584936329Also what was all anger all about>yo go and kill those drones ASAP bro>kill the drones>oopsie big collateral damage boom!I'm literally following orders and I can't possibly be blamed for one of those drones sperging out of control and crashing into a bunch of bombs
>>584936451That's what's called taking initiative. Not something sheeple would understand.
I want tourists to leave.
>>584936590stop engaging with that guyhe's some of the /wtg/ retards we made seethe the other day
>>584931609>Ace Combat CoD>Second half of the game you're hunting a covert death squad under the employ of a shadowy figure that's been wiping out large chunks of the Osean military>Near the end you find out you're hunting Ragritz all along>Lmao you weren't Strangereal Task Force 141 you were Strangereal Shadow Company the whole time>Last mission is a shot for shot remake of For the Record where you hunt down the Belkan bastard who tricked you
>>584930576>Land Battleship Clean-Upare you implying there would be anyone left to killthe interior of the ship is entirely sterilized, not even bacteria left alive in there
>>584937774The first one isn't
>>584937048Make like a Belkan and nuke yourself now
>>584937048Oh I'm here to stay, I'm new here, but I hate Sotoa so much, I need a place to vent that out.
>>584937846>they use sleeping gas to knock out the crew>if you get the mix wrong, you could either kill people or not knock them outYeah, there was definitely a cleanup operation.
>>584930576Aurelian Liberation Corps game. Imagine the shenanigans. The hijinks. The tomfoolery, even.
>>584937957You shouldn't hate Sotoa. You should hate Osea. Did you know that President Harling tried to crash his helicopter into the Space Elevator?
After finishing the campaign for 8 and realizing I have to play everything again on Elite to unlock Ace ( since I played on Veteran) I jumped into a bit of online and played Ace Combat 0. I just finished it and I don't know how I feel about this game. Most of it is really simple which is both good and bad since it's a pretty fast game. I guess some of the scenes like the final mission were pretty cinema. The whole jousting thing was amazing. What do I do in Online? What's the best way to level up? I got the battle pass plane but it feels like cheating to use it? Any tips and tricks for online or should I just redo evrything on elite to unlock ace.
>>584938339I heard he wanted to protect it from an incoming missile
>>584937846Only if I can kill all the tourists with me.
what kinda fucking missiles does the f15-e have again i just saw a guy nuke the entire enemy bomber squad on fort grays alone in like 20 seconds
Imagine crashing into a boatAnd not even a real boat, too
>>584938873Streagle's only a2a SPW is HCAAs so he might have built for those or MSLs.
is there any point to drop tanks beyond looks?
>>584939582you can use it as a weapon if you're powerful enough
>>584939582No, it's a purely aura-farm part that you use specifically on the shuttle escort mission to drop them once you get the order.
>>584939582You can avoid having to refuel from drones that sabotage you if you bring enough fuel.
Anyone up for an emergency sortie?
>>584939329Speaking of, is 8 the first time we've ever gotten an enemy kamikaze pilot (sub)? I haven't played the mobile games but I can't remember any enemy trying to crash their plane with no survivors, not even any of the airships. I guess SOLG's kind of vlose
>>584939884It wasn't even the first instance of someone attempting it in this game.
>only played PW, 7, and 8>blind hardest thing it lets you pick on all of them>go play 0 on hardThe old games are significantly harder. Gelb killed me more than all of the Shadows combined. Also, I swear Gelb launched a missile at me 180 degrees off bore as I was behind Gelb 1 the second time they killed me.
>>584938374>What do I do in Online? What's the best way to level up? I got the battle pass plane but it feels like cheating to use it? Any tips and tricks for online or should I just redo evrything on elite to unlock ace.The only way to truly "brick" yourself is to be careless when spending golden blueprints. Planes get stat boosts as they level up. So a level 20 low level plane may very well fly circles around your level 1-5 Morgan. Every 5 levels you'll be stuck with a level limit. You need to spend resources to limit break that limit. High tier planes cost significantly more resources to limit break.>How do I farm resources to break those limitsThe big wall is golden Blueprints. For the most part they only drop from superweapon fights. I CAN drop from scrambles, but LMAO good luck. To maximize BPs from your rare super weapon fights, you want to get a good ranking and clear every super weapon fight. That's gunpods for Arsenal bird/Chandelier, and SFFS bombs for Alicorn. In the short term you should level up your F-4E because it gets gunpods for chandelier/bird, and the F-4E is actually kind of alright with its HVAA missiles. Long term the Su-25 arguably is the best superweapon killer with the combination of gunpods, a 2x DPS main gun, SFFS bombs, and good low speed handling. But it is HELLISH to fly hte Su-25 in normal modes, so bank up USB sticks to level up the frogfoot for superweapon fights without having to actually spend flight hours leveling it.Mig-31 and its LAAMS is OP vs AI planes in normal modes. Having a good dogfighter is good to insure wins in scrambles to give you big infusions of zollars. The Su-34 is the ground pounding king in warfare and assault. Warfare mode strongly rewards teams to have one ground pounder and 3 players escorting their attacker/assassinating the enemy attacker. But you don't really need to be meta. Merely preserve your sanity between super weapon fights.
>>584940251>So a level 20 low level plane may very well fly circles around your level 1-5 MorganPoor choice of words on my part. Level 20 low tier plane that unlocks early. A high level phantom, mirage, or foxhound might outmaneuver a level 1 Morgan. The Mig-31 foxhound's stats are retarded in online mode. Somehow it's not notably fast but actually turns pretty darn well, which is stupid for the 31.
>>584939824Would be insane if it actually skips the radar mission. Is it ever explained who tried to kill you with those drones? I mean obviously it was Enso cucks
>>584927284what about the base maneuverability stat? does the level system make that moot with enough time?
>>584940010What, the Drinwich drone? That's more collateral damage than anything else. For as fanatical as Sotoan elites or Belkan hardliners seem none of them are strapping themselves onto a V2 to guide it into their enemy.
>>584938374>>584940251 missed the important part, which is not to play itbut if you're going to anyways, i'll also add that if you want to cheese the entire progression, go into the normie circles and farm their lobbies to play constant superweapon fights and scrambles>I got the battle pass plane but it feels like cheating to use it?you will be considered evil but don't feel bad because the nuggets deserve itthe morgan is a seal clubber but it's A2A is worse than anything with a LAAM/SASM and it's A2G is worse than anything with bombs unless you can aim the TLS
Lore accurate Rex
>>584940782Maneuverability stat is not too reliable, better to check the turn rate curves in the database website, but besides a few exceptions, all fighter class planes basically get the same maneuverability once maxed out.
>>584936564they told you to be careful!isn't it all a ruse? iirc in the next mission briefing they explain that they blew up the plane on the runway on purpose so there was an excuse to keep you back after the briefing and tell you the real plan, that the "secret anti land battleship weapon" is actually "blowing up its logistical support in the desert", which isn't as inspiring for propaganda as having people believe there's an actual secret weapon.
>playing AH:L after AC2 >first named squadron is Lancer>their whole gimmick is jousting back and forth at you in formation while yelling "CHAAAAARGE" I need more squad fights with this kind of energy
>>584941256>isn't it all a ruse?you getting chewed out for it in private is a ruse, the runway did get fucked up but it didn't really matter because you were after the supply depots in the first place anyway.
>>584941256i don't think it was on purpose but the xo took the opportunity as a pretense to keep you behind
>>584940971>>584938374>you will be considered evil but don't feel bad because the nuggets deserve itYou'll be considered a useless noob until proven otherwise. The default morgan kind of sucks. Sure it outflies the level 1 phantom, but leveled planes outfly a newbies morgan and the burst missiles don't have a large enough ammo supply to seriously impact the battle. The TLS is the scary piece of equipment on it, but the average player doesn't meet the skill floor to use it.
God it's so satisfying to watch a SOD delete an entire cluster of ground shits
>>584937483k...kino...
I love you /aceg/
>>584941589>but leveled planes outfly a newbies morgan and the burst missiles don't have a large enough ammo supply to seriously impact the battleyes this is what i said, it's a seal clubbing plane
>>584941776i wuv you too anonite
>>584941801A morgan doesn't club low level planes any harder than any other leveled plane. Any LAAM boat clubs seals harder than the morgan from beyond TLS range.
It should be possible to kill or at least damage the Ladon in lifeline in the desert and change how mission 15 plays out later
>>584941236interesting, thank you
>>584940251>>584940971>>584941589Thank you very much, I'm looking into it now. I guess I'll level some lower level planes then I have a few.How do you get those super boss fights even? they are always grayed out?
>>584941973by the time you have LAAM boats, the seals have LAAM boats too, the game matches close to your rank
>>58494208610% chance to get one after every mission
>>584942171You can get a Mig-31 within like 20 sorties, the entire point of that plane is that it's cheap and unlocks early.Sure, a fully built Typhoon LAAMboat is going to take longer to acquire but that's not even a seal clubber, especially if you build it for GUN + MSL and just take LAAMs to farm NPCs and get your ace meter up.
>>584942171>by the time you have LAAM boats, the seals have LAAM boats too, the game matches close to your rank>start out in my F-4E>get matched vs Su-57s and F-22sLiar.If we're clubbing noobs then there are tons of special weapons that outperform the TLS. The TLS is scary because it has no counterplay, which makes it effective against more skilled opponents that know how to defend against alternative weapons.
where is my BROS2 part bamco
So what if the crazy pilot on the fort had shot Rex? He has no blood, would he deflate?
>create save state for the first time in my playthrough while fighting the Megalith>the safety net gives me the courage to actually go in like a retard and do the 4 consecutive tunnel runs>end up not needing the save state...huh, so i'm just a coward then.
>>584942171A Tomcat or Foxhound gets LAAMs from the start and is dirt cheap.
https://open3dlab.com/project/5b904c57-8ead-463c-a141-7adcadd9132f/It's up
>>584940118Gelb has ass missiles yes.
Holy fuck, the legacy Hornet handles like ASSDoes it get any better when upgraded or does it always have the performance characteristics of a thrown brick?
>>584942815being too cautious is its own poison
>>584943394It's the starter plane, it's always going to be ass sadly
>>584944338Yeah, but there’s “fine, nicely sculpted ass” like Kate, and then there’s “three fat raccoons fighting in a ten pound grain sack”The -18C is the latter
>>584944338Starter planes were fine in 6 and the PS2 games, they don't HAVE to be shit. F-16C got hit wih the starter plane debuff in AHL and 7, here the F-18C gets sacrificed instead.
>>584944636At least F-18E exists
>>584944636Lowk the starter in ace combat 0 feels like a mid campaign plane in 8. At least before you factor in high g turn mechanic
>>584941446(me)It's really a shame that being able to pick your own colors is lost technology now. If only modern bamco could unearth the source code...
A questions 3 to see if anyone has tried this yet>Rocky Island Day 1 can you shoot down the zeppelin before the spear is fired? >Rocky Island Day 2 did anyone else somehow lure all the shadows up to an alt of ~30,000 feet?I did and it was a very beautiful place for a dogfight.>Did you stick to one plane on your first run or just kept switching as you bought new ones?
>>584945264If they did that then how would they sell you skins for the next 5 years?
>>584945284> can you shoot down the zeppelin before the spear is fired? Yes
>>58494528418C until M15, then 18E until M28, then 22A.
is there any difference between winning/losing or any real purpose to racking up score online, other than cash?so far as i can tell there's no reason to stress about winning/losing in the main game modes except love of the game or grinding zoll, since everything else goes up regardless of what you do, and only scramble/emergency sortie have special rewards that make it worth trying harderbut maybe i'm just not paying attention.i always try my best regardless, but i just like the gameplay of AC.
>>584945284>Rocky Island 1 Airship killYou can do this and apparently you need to do it fast enough to get the Ace spawn for that mission. It doesn't change the mission as two land-based lasers show up to guide the Spear down.
Can you shoot down the targets early in M10?
>>584945669There's barely any difference in payout.
<<More UAVs!>>
>>584945284>Rocky Island Day 1 can you shoot down the zeppelin before the spear is fired? yes but it doesn't really matter since another thing with a laser pointer spawns
>>584910097Minus the EW plane then that has existed since the 90's as an OVA.
https://x.com/OffModel3D/status/2111959083838570578
Was blowing up Chandelier's core from outside possible in 6? I just rained SFFS on it from outside in the raid
>>58494694134... remember that number... it's going to be important
why did they choose to make mission 28 pure kino
Chat is this real
So you think when they add the Nosferatu, it will be 6 status of badass, or the castrated 7 version?
idk about other shit but LAAM seems to have gawdlike tracking
>>5849086698, 20, 27, 28, 29 mostly because the music kept making me cum
>>584932812I just assume Rex needed a break after pulling insane Gs to beat Tewy. Let him be a WSO for a while before getting back into the pilot seat.
>>584946913
>>584949327
>>584948007Yes, I did it today by acciden with the F-14.
>>584945670>>584946214>scripted spearKind of a let down that would be a great place for your actions determine who lives and dies PA kept going on about.
where is my xfa-24a apalis kono
>>584950551this is how the donut gummi ship in kingdom hearts works
Kinda feels weird that submarines are such gluttons for punishment in these games. You'd think they would lose the ability to be in water after a bunch of direct bomb hits and shit.Also, why the fuck are they launching cruise missiles up into the air at naval targets, just to let enemy aircraft shoot them down? Why the fuck are they surfacing? Have they never heard of staying underwater and using torpedos?You'd think submarine tech and tactics would be high priority in a world that routinely spawns super saiyan fighter pilots.
gn buddies
Morgan, my beloved, after 20 years, you can finally equip 2 (two) of your iconic special weapons at once
>>584907965>Guy in the back has no head because of Rex's modelFucking lel
>>584950758It's not that submarine tech and tactics are underdeveloped, it's just that we only hear about the times that a submarine does get stopped by a plane.There's another war somewhere on strangereal where the Triumphant sunk the Endurance soon after mission 3.
>IM@S>Gundam>Armored Core>Strike WitchesWhat did (YOU) suggest for a collab in the survey?
>>584951664Ok but if you know in advance for a fact that you are fighting a main character tier pilot, which is the case here due to where the sub fight is, why would you ever use tactics where the sub surfaces or uses VLS at all? Just stay underwater bro.
>>584950801Gotta wonder who'll end up with more drone kills in the end F-16 or Mig-29
>>584952452That sub had to leave its station in a state of emergency in one of the earlier missions while we were bombinb its base. It's also an experimental project. It may very well not have torpedoes installed or loaded.
>>584952472I'm guessing Ukraine still has more Mig-29's than F-16's at this point and they can probably supply the former better, not just with ammo but with pilots too. My money's on the Mig.
>>584952153Blue Archive
>>584952452But none of the subs you fight in the series surface for shits and giggles, they do it because they're damaged.The Scinfaxi gets sniped by the Arkbird, you damage the Hrimfaxi in a stealth attack, the Alicorn gets bombed by anti-sub missiles from ships and the Triumphant gets Spear'd.
>>584953059><<This is cunny actual, ready to sortie>>
>>584953282<< Cunny 1 - Nihahaha >>
>>584953282>>584953463All the people who shot the crab boats in the Lighthouse have PTSD flashbacks confusing that for 'kani'.
>>584952153That cute witch should stream Ace Combat Zero. Also that Evil girl from not-Belka
>>584953602I have no idea how people had problems with that mission, i cleared it in my first try
>>584953168Even Dragonet in 2 is attacked because it's gone shallow to launch its missile as one final fuck you. Although realistically it wouldn't actually need to broach, being that close to the surface it would still make it far more vulnerable to air attack than normal
>>584953687I shot the boat as soon as I got in lock range and assumed it was from that distance. Mistake I only made once.
>>584953949They also tell you about the crane numbers
>>584950801I wonder if any of those pilots played 7 and had to deal with that game's fuckass drones.
>>584953687They got impatient and didn't properly ID the target before firing.I did it just to see what audio lines I would get when I sunk a crab instead of a sun. Wasn't disappointed I liked the lines and the tone of voice they used. I should have expected that blue MQ-99's were using the same flight script the Ravens used around the Lighthouse.
>>584953687Modern gamers are silly and fall for the easiest trick in the book. Some of them also blame the pause screen because PA fucked up and called it a yellow sun there, which concerns me about the youngins attention span because the game REALLY tries to hammer home that you're looking for a sun for nearly a whole minute. Plus the crabs also aren't yellow either.
>>584954038Yeah, that's also partially why I fell for it. I was way too focused on counting the cranes and the boat I shot was the same color as the first sun boat. Really, that level punishes you for rushing as much as it does not paying attention, it makes an ass out of u and me.>>584954093>I should have expected that blue MQ-99's were using the same flight script the Ravens used around the Lighthouse.Wait they do?
I watch total noob streamers play Retaking Theve II and I'm just in awe. I feel like such a shit player when I struggled so hard on that mission on Veteran and they breeze through it even though they might crash and fail multiple times and restart from checkpoint.
>>584954320We all start somewhere, buddy.
>>584954320Sneed II does feel like one of those deceptively hard missions where there's so much crap going on it's easy to get tunnel vision.
>>584954653>>584954438For me it was just that the ground forces kept getting killed by opposing ground forces while I was running around killing howitzers or destroying the SAMs or shooting down the bombers. I couldn't get a single decent strafing run down those city streets either.
>>584954174Yes they do look how they climb and circle it all the way to the top same pattern the Raven's use.
>>584952472>>584952813>>584950801>noone else can see the obvious AI when they fly past the splash where the cockpit strut visibly snaps into a different shape multiple times
>>584953168Shit you're right I'm just retarded
Why the isn't the MiG-21 in the budget plane bracket I'm getting gaped in the hole I want a gunpod fighter
>>584952153Nuclear Option.
>>584954803I almost lost a squad by chasing the Shadows early.>>584954810Neat. Little shit like this is why I love AC so much.
>>584952153FUCK. How did I forget Gundam?!
>>584955390Do you think the Sotoans were behind the Scully Islands rebellion?
>>584955620Nah that was just homegrown rebels who were totes not being backed by Belka.
Fighter with UGB for Arsenal bird, is this ok? They would get the full air target damage right?
>>584956026backed by Belka when they are currently getting raped by Cipher? Priorities I guess.
>>584956026If the FCU was having rebels even back then, should they really be considered good guys?
>>584956419they are just stupid, not evil
>>584955308SASMs are too good, can't let you have it too cheaply.
>>584955390I am NOT playing Air Combat
>>584956056
>>584956056According to the database the Arsenal Bird's targets only take 25% of bomb damage. It's also the easiest Emergency Sortie so it doesn't really matter, you could probably being the Frogfoot in just to do SFFS tricks and it'd work out.
does the daily challenges XP do anything after you've completed the Ace Pass?
Hortus Regis Alti>Everflow>Song of Wings
>>584956785nope, all you get is one(1)(uno) gacha ticket for doing them all
>>584956882>Everflowhonestly this song could use a little bit more oomph, how is your own main theme losing the the villain's main theme?
>>584956882I really feel like Everflow is a weak main theme. It's not bad, but it was a bit too high and didn't really fit with the experience of Wings and Joker Flight throughout the game, which is full of ups and downs.
>>584957012To be fair I think Hortus Regis Alti is sort of a theme for Cope too, since it's about the whole pilot valhalla thing.>>584957149I prefer the live orchestra version personally, it's a bit lower tone wise.
I got 4 (+1 dupe) 4* dogshit lines skin from gacha already, I only have one greenblack skin and it's for F15J, shit I don't even have nor planning to get, somehow the monster energy drink skin I wanted is rarer than the top rarity uggo skin, this rate is nonsensical. How can I grind for the yellow coins, I might just buy it instead of begging for kinder rates.
>>584957287Contour are such shitty skins
>>584957287You get yellow coins for getting dupes in the gacha
>>584957287>How can I grind for the yellow coins, I might just buy it instead of begging for kinder rates.That's the thing. You don't.
>>584957438>>584957440for fuck sake, guess I'll roll for more shitskin until I can buy one for my Rafale
>>584957287I rolled the Barricader Monster Energy skinI'm nowhere close to unlocking the Barricader yet, let alone maxing the thing
>>584957552why can't this be me
>>584957438If your coin has a 4 on it they'll explode when you log on again.
>>584957610I dunno man maybe I somehow absorbed all the good RNG for the last couple days with my insane emergency sortie and scramble rates
>>584952153Yukikaze
you can fly through the theve train station yard
Holy shit AC5 feels fucking weird to play right after AC04, my plane is so much light i keep turning too hard and missing my target.
>>584958143well yeah? That's how you unlock the skinwalker
>>584958412Meanwhile I'm here trying to play 4 after 8 and keep rolling around and around in the F-16
The two pilots from the Ventus Squadron really left a strong impression on me, despite having very little screen time. Such chads.
>>584958950it's their ass records, right?
>>584958950>2 of the only 3 actual people from Sota.
>>584958950I wonder if you actuallt recreate their aircraft with the right markins or not. But you between how good they work together as wingmen and their Assault Records they're my favorite side characters in this game.
>>584959040>>584959135>>584959148Did you guys all had a stroke at the same time ?
>>584959135Who's the third?
For me it's Phantom granny.
Tasha is for the goonersKate is for the yearners
>>584959309Cope
>>584959317>tfw no brown Phantom GILF gf>>584959373Ah yeah. I kinda forgot. Honestly it seems like Sotoa's entire officer corps is just cartoon villains or mental patients, the lower ranks seem more normal. The Fatsia commander framing literal slave labor as a good thing is fucking insane, bro is committed to that nomad warrior LARP.
>>584907965
>>584958950Killing the hatchlings before the two Ventus gives you the most kino possible in that mission.
>>584907965AFK Chinese fucks
>queue for Warfare>spam ECM and shoot NPCsComfy
>>584959849Warfare really does have the best PvE experience, solely because the entire enemy team isn't also competing with you for points.
>>584959849Some of these people need to get a job.
>>584959794Once I see 2 opponents have 20k while my whole team is only 4 digits by round 1, I stopped trying myself, why would I bother anymore if the winner is already decided?
>>584958950
>>584960274>why would I bother anymore if the winner is already decided?Aren't rewards influenced (if however miniscule) by your personal score? That's the only reason I bother, but it really doesn't matter since it's so small and the biggest XP/Zoll gains come from random Scrambles and Esorties.
>>584960581yeah, it's just either me getting 1.9k or 2k zoll, rather than seeing the score difference wound my pride, I'd rather let the tryhards do all the work while I doomscroll.
People are sleeping on Lifeline in the Desert. >HAAAA-AAAHHHH>HAAAA-AAAAAH-AAAAAAHH
>>584961417It's such a good song. The guitar segments are awesome.
>>584960581I haven't paid close enough attention to tell for sure, but I swear that the reward algorithm is something retarded like:>everybody gets 1500 zollars by default>then you get bonus zollars for your silly awards like "eye of the chameleon" or "bullfighter". With different awards being worth different values from ~20-100 zollars.>>584959794I have a hard time blaming them with the dogshit way that online is setup.>all that matters in the grand scheme of things are superweapon fights and to a much lesser extent scrambles>assault/warfare just waste your fucking time. >None of the opponents are challenging. They're easy even by the standards of scramble, who are still easy compared to something like the shadow22 fight. It's just racing people to faceroll the opposition first in assault mode.>In warfare mode the opposing players can be a challenge, but jap game netcode makes your deaths feel like bullshit and your victories feel hollow.so why not just automate the bullshit away until you get the more entertaining game modes?
>>584952153Macross, Top Gun, and Area 88.
>>584955390>forgot nuclear optionFUCK. Can I retake the survey?
I just want to say that I hate people who recommend streamers use the SOD. They are worse than Shadow 22 and will never go to the Promised Land.
>>584958950So uh where were the FCU equivalents to Gemma and Ventus during this war? Why weren't they retaking Theve or defending Odin at White Valley?
>>584962782Biboo stream? If so I feel you. SOD is good but the Legacy bug is perfectly fine for the land battleship.
I really wish you could do this officially. I did mention it in the survey, not that I expect anything.
>>584963270I'm amazed this doesn't make your computer literally explode.
>>584962903Didn't everyone get wiped by the spear strikes?
>listening to my blue sky home / song of wings while working>screens from the game flashing in my head like some kinda animeis this normal
>>584962903>So uh where were the FCU equivalents to Gemma and Ventus during this war?They're fucking DEAD or defected, anon. Purple Magic was defending Odin but couldn't take off and later died against the Land Battleship, they're probably your hest analogue for Ventus since they've been around for a while. There's not a good Gemma analogue because most of the FCU military was either defeated or broke off so they didn't really have reserves they could toss in, but you could argue Jackpot were pretty scrubby since B. Tan can die and you'll get mission dialogue about unnamed Jackpot characters dying in the background of later missions like Rocky Island or Fatsia. lBanker are irrelevant jobbers who die to multi-missiles from the Ladon, Flying Moles are stuck in self-imposed isolation even though it's impressive they held out for so long, and whatever planes died offsceeen to Land Battleship 2 (mentioned in the briefing) also existed I guess. It's like 6 where (You) personally meet up with and help save what's left of the country's air force, except FCU planes will still keep dying afterward.
>>584907965>Are we even the same species?Baxter you can't say that...
>>584964185Sotoans did not evolve from apes like Humans. Rather, they are an evolved form of coyote - thus explaining their lack of morality and obsession with sheep and roadrunners.
>>584964165I loved the schizo molemen, they were great fun, the way they turn up in M28 and immediately start trying to ram the bombers.
>>584963382I'm using a 5090 and some INI tweaks from Nexus to run certain things below minimum settings for more frames. Models and textures are on ultra still. DLSS is set to balanced. Trying to min/max looks vs performance. Will retest soon with new tweaks.This mission was around 40-50 FPS which feels pretty rough in VR. Only mission that ran worse than Fatsia is the the next one, towards the end, where there's just so much shit on the map the game craps itself. Turbo aids trying to kill Shadow 22 with guns at 30 FPS.
>>584964497They're legitimately impressive as ground forces, holding the island despite being cut off and under atrack for months on top of seeing past Enso's lies and gaining intel on Cope. Dunno if they were any good as pilots before they went crazy, but they're cool enough that I stuck their emblems on my Phantom in online.
>>584962667
>>584962667God some cross AC livery would be great
>>584964165So why didn't the FCU just sign a peace treaty? There were no reserves left to throw into this fight.
>emergency sorties have a 10% chance to spawn>you can only get 5 gold BP a day>when it does proc, you only have 30 minutes at most to get a group of friends togetherfuck off jap niggers. Fix your online mode ASAP.
>>584965930>So why didn't the FCU just sign a peace treaty? because the "F" in "FCU" doesn't stand for "French"
>>584965930Because if there's one thing Useans hate more than each other, it's foreigners.
>>584929660
I just realized, did Tasha'a dad get the intel about the Tonitrus sattelites by phoning his wife?>Hey bby, miss u, can u forward me some classified intel about the Rods from Allah? Luv u ))))
Is there some kind of supplementary material where Mobius One receives a personality because he had been hyped up to me as super cool but when I played 4 he had nothing to him aside from being a video game protagonist. Not even an ability to make choices like the protags of the surrounding entries.
>>584959564I got RAPED by a Tomcat and his pocket EA-36
>>584966607yes, it was pretty much confirmed in a briefing (that was mistranslated in english)baxter making a non-sequitur comment about coster's mom in the dub was actually supposed to be referencing seversky's wife
>>584966810That's what I figured it was supposed to be after I thought about it for a minute. Maybe that briefing originally had Tasha in attendance and it got rewritten but the localizers didn't fix the error in time.
>>584966607He's not a physical therapist. He's a glownigger.
Sell me on a plane
>>584908774As bad as the Lego shit that low IQ Pakis slurp up
>>584967121T-4 Hawk. Amazingly low stall speed, cheap so you can easily buy one for the whole squad, stellar mobility, great QAAMs that your wingmen will use to melt everything.
>>584967121Use ECM planes in PvP to get on everyone's block list, thus ending your ACO career!
>>584963270I'm still so pissed that PA didn't just add a fucking FOV slider for first person.
>>584967121the F-117it looks like a bunny
>>584966607Tasha's Mom was the top Yuky Ace so she has connections.
>mfw introducing Su-57s to the surprise mechanic of my FA-36's SASMs instantly detonating when fired during a joust passYou can actually watch them reassess their PSM spam strategy in real time, it is glorious.
>>584967494who are you talking about? Toprak?
>>584967121Kowsar. Two seater F-5 that has the power of Allah on its side as it bombs disgusting infidel bases.
>>584967620I'm talking about PvP players using Su-57s, F-22s too, but they're usually a bit more cautious.
I want to live inside the world of Ace Combat 04's album picture, not in Farbanti, not in Ace Combat 04, look at this image and extrapolate the beauty from there. Yeah, that one.
>>584967494Game's SASMs and Barricader's IEWS make them stupidly more useful than the Su-57/F-22/F-35. It's ridiculous that you get access to them first in Online despite them being post-game unlocks.
>>584967354I actually got into a game with 3 Prowlers and 1 F-16, the Falcon player was incompeted though, probably got my PvP gun kill record with that one.>>584967438I am sure I am not the first or only one that thinks its tail look like the one from a Swallow.
>>584967706bro that's a crater
>>584967709The Barricader especially is broken beyond belief. All ECM/ESM capable craft are. Basically invulnerable+super missiles for the duration of any MP mode with how many uses they give you.
I wish I was osean...
>>584967494>implying PSMs give you any valueThey don't even break locks online.
How do we balance ESM/ECM? I think they should have a level of power that could be enhanced with parts and in counterpart there should be parts that counter or at least lighten jamming power a bit.
What does ECM do exactly? Heavily increases lock-on time while you're caught in it?Meaning in PvP, you ought to give up on missiles and use guns/TLS, or LAAM/SAAM from outside?
>>584968295Lock-on-jam missiles.
>>584967412For SP I'm sure there will be a memory hack, assuming you can't just throw a UE5 CVAR at it via INI editing. That's the burden of Japanese games, alas.
>>584968295Give em like 2 or 3 uses so that can't just be spammed endlessly.
>>584968335Increases lock on time and reduces missile performance most notably homing
>wanted to fly a few sorties at the end of the night and finish collecting my gold BP for the day>super weapon fights are a mythI hate japan.
>>584968295Many ways.Make it affect only targeted players, make it act more like an ESP hack than a plane buffer/debuffer, give universal counters ala flares for missiles, break the hands of people that take them into TDM/DM, add some signal countering mechanic that requires inputs so it's more skill based to keep running, sort of like UGBs take more focus to drop than XSDB, have multiple players locking the same target counter the ECM, so if all 4 players target the ECM plane they're vulernable to getting a LAAM up the ass, make it fade in an out in power intensity, so many options.
>>584964937Several of you suggested Armored Core collaborations. What exactly are you hoping to get out of that? Cinder Carla emblem or something? There's no aircraft.
>>584966607More like his KGB handlers. That Yuke glows
>>584968508Someone tell them to add a pity for this in the survey, my campaign schedule are all fucked up because of this.
>>584968675They put Godzilla walking around and Xevious flying polygon enemies in Infinity. There is no reason we can't dogfight a mech.
>>584968462Missile performance too? Gee, Bill, this twisted game needs to be reset
>>584968675I would rock this emblem for the entirety of my AC8 MP experience.But it would be cool to fight some bosses from those games as planes.One hundred million. Done.There are still so many more lives to take.Our journey is just beginning.
>>584928816btw ADMM already has a preview in the files, i'm datamining around right now let me know what else to look out for anons
>>584968675Realistically it's only emblems and titles. At most a themed plane/livery.
>>584969020Someone datamined the list of future pass planes, can you see if they already have models, or just text files?
>>584968675Cool liveries and crossover soundtracks like>contact with (you)>steel haze (rusted pride)>Rough and Decent
>>584968675>VS Spirit of Motherwill>VS Nine-Ball Seraph>VS White Glint (OG, Anatolia, or J)>VS Balteus>VS ICE WORM>VS ALLMIND/Iguazu
>>584969020>~4500m lock-on>oneshots frigates>only 48 ammo (6 salvos)Neat, although a bit of a shame that it's such limited capacity.
>>584968675Emblems, paint jobs, music from the series. Hell 6 is half way an Ace Combat game already, half the guys you fight in that game wouldn't be out of place in the skies of Strangereal so a lot of them could be ported with little change
>>584969020That's cool. Is all that default performance? I wonder how it will be against the more nimble air targets. I wouldn't expect it to hit the Shadows in mission 28, but I hope it's good enough for common enemies.
>>584963270They probably couldn't make it work at an acceptable performance standard. The game's working hard enough as it is.
>>584969020>Straight ADMMcursed as fuck, I assume this is without ammo payload parts?
>>584969274>Emergency Scramble: Occupation of Arteria Carpals
FA-36 or EA-36 for pvp?
>>584969237This list?
>>584968675I dunno but a nineball emblem would be cool I guess
>>584969617>we fail because none of the retards in my team focus on RodieCertified hood classic
>>584969725They're really going to sell all these fucking planes for 5 dollars each, God I hate scamco
>>584968675Don't expect whatever skeleton crew at PA in charge of MP to put in any real effort for the collabs.>>584969274I can see them recycling fatsia as an emergency sortie and playing spirit of motherwill's theme
>>584969725I assume so, I never actually saw the raw file, just someone naming like 5 superplanes with customizations like -PIXY- for thr Morgan but Cipher/Trigger/Strigon/etc.
>>584969697SASMs if you want to be kind of honorable, kind of scummy. IEWS if you want to go full NO FUN ALLOWED.
There's a new weapon called the UAVG (Gun UAV), I can only assume that'll be the CFA-44's third SPW after EMLT and ADMM
also dumpan a bunch of previews, here's 8AAM
FAEB
>>584969787>one dipshit dying repeatedly trying to go guns on KasumiIt's amazing we can already mentally visualize the trainwreck.
CFA-44 dual railguns
>>584969697EA-36, good fighters are dime a dozen, you need competent EWAC
and a very special surprise, the long awaited return of GRKT
>>584970007>giving the Nosferatu its MalebolgesInteresting, traditionally it gets ECM (IEWS in 7). Would be fitting to have it fulfill the EW role for superplanes, but I guess the Morgan already got ECM this time so they might want to diversify loadouts.
>>584970007Isn't that just the Nightmare's UAVs?
>>584970243Who asked for this...
PLSL
>>584969020Have you found, or can you go looking for the joint strike missile from the XFA-27?
>>584970334Any chance you got a warcrime in there?
>>584970007gun UAV is probably for the ADF-11 Raven. It's the only other playable aircraft to ever have drone SP weapon.
>>584970114>>584970174>>584970243>>584970334Where are you getting these from
>>584970334easy mode is back?
>>584970515unreleased online stuff and localizations in the files, i've got more stuff that i'll post for the buddies here, i'd also love ideas for what to look for
>>584970334This one pisses me off, I'm not sure why
>>584970243Ew
forgot to mention but there's also some cool singleplayer cut content, there's 2 fully complete but disabled TLS mods (just work like the ones in AC7) and a Luna 11 SU-47 skin
>>584969020>let me know what else to look out for anonsany mentions of:XR-45 CariburnYR-99 ForneusYR-302 FregataXFA-24A ApalisXFA-33 FenrirFB-22YF-23F-15S/MTDF-15 ACTIVEX-29AMiG-1.44X-32, F-32, F/A-32, etc.
>>584970649because you got dogged by these all the time
>>584970649>the most broken OP weapon that completely ruined AC7 MP lobbies>not sure why
>>584970693>Luna 11 SU-47 skinDon't you get this after beating her?
>>584970604>i'd also love ideas for what to look forAny signs of the F-5E and X-02?
>>584970782no, that's the skin for the X-40, no idea why the SU-47 skin was cut since it's complete and looks nice
>>584969725>No F15MTD
>>584970845you get it for completing the campaign, unless you mean there's another one
>>584970884nvm yeah, I guess the one I enabled was a prototype or something
>>584969881Silver lining is that it doesn't cost $60 like DCS
>>584970805>Any signs of the F-5E and X-02?The leaked list in >>584969725 shows both (assuming that it's correct)."f05e" near the top, and "wyvns" near the bottom.
>>584948007Maybe. Tonight I noticed an instance where I think that I scored a kill with a SAAM after swapping modes to standard MSL. My initial assumption was that the tracking radar circle mechanic was still in play even after having swapped weapons, but maybe it was tracking the MSL lock? I was going to do testing after proccing a super weapon fight to finish collecting my golden BPs for the day. BUT THE SUPER WEAPON FIGHT NEVER FUCKING PROCCED FUCK YOU PROJECT ACES WHY DID YOU BALANCE YOUR ONLINE MODE IN YOUR FULL PRICE AAA GAME AS IF IT WERE A F2P GACHA SKINNERBOX!?!?!
>>584969020Any mention of planes not from AC7 DLC? Would be a bit of a ball buster if they didn't make anything new and are just gonna be recycling AC7 DLC for a while.
>>584948538LAAM has twice the turn rate of QAAM.
>>584970436nah, there's 3 different UAV types in the files, here's the UAVP with what I can only assume is a placeholder for the ADF-11F
>>584971292Even gacha has more robust prize systems and pity prizes. You can't even get a satisfying 5 supply tickets on weekly resst, you max at 4 guaranteed (1 from daily, 3 from weekly), it's so anemic it's actually comical.
>>584970243isn't.... isn't a guided rocket just a missile....?
>>584971543I think that the distinction might the sophistication of the motor. Or maybe a caliber thing. Like eventually machine-guns become auto-cannons once they get big enough.
>>584971532Yeah. It's like shitty older gachas that shit down your throat instead of modern gachas that are just generous enough to keep players hooked.
>>584971532>can buy disgusting awful ugly skins with the coins you get from dupes in the gacha>can't buy the acceptable looking desert/ocean skinsI don't understand these devs.
PLSL UAV "gameplay"
Unreleased Podarge bossfight, can drop UAVs and really big bombs that can be shot down midflight
>>584970604are there any resources for datamining the files? there are a couple of things I'm trying to look for
>>584971814>40 ammo>a fucking one shotUhh... P2W much?
>>584971543When it comes to american weapons, a missile was designed with guidance in mind, like an AIM-7, while a guided rocket was a rocket, like a hydra, given some form of guidance capability, the result being an APKWS. When it comes to russian guided rockets it sometimes holds true but just as often it gets complicated.
F-14a (Razgriz) has the following ability:ZollToEarn_Team and ProficiencyToEarn_Team rates: 0.02 / 0.04 / 0.06
>>584971953It would've made way more sense for at least some of them in that mission to have been gunships/camouflaged Q-planes escorting the real transport, not >We can send 8 planes of parts and can build a single battleship from just one
>>584972120Alright, who's gonna be the dedicated Razgriz farmslut for the rest of us?
>>584972219(you)
Best low level planes for online to gun for? By role
>>584972120>>584972219By the time that they release it, we're all going to be hard stuck on gold BP drops and be in desperate need of zollar sinks, not zollar boosters.
>>584972317Migger-21
>>584907965>Plugged into a machine and can predict your movesDid they turn Tewy into a cybernewtype for the final fight?
>>584972120If you'd told me about that before the game released I would have thought it was cool, but now that I've played a while I don't care about any currency other than gold blueprints.Any way to check what weapons it gets? It's easy to guess what weapons the superplanes will have but standard planes are a lot harder. And any of the other standard planes too.
>>584972317F-4E and Su-25. Both of them for carrying superweapon fights with gunpods. SFFS bombs vs alicorn for Su-25 too. The F-4E is good enough to comfortably level in assault battles with its HVAA missilesFor mid-tier planes I've been enjoying the Su-47. UGB's with +radius part lets it act like a budget fullback vs soft targets. SAAM are reliable vs most AI aircraft. Mobility feels great, and it gets an ability that helps boost its standard MSL. I've been getting MvP in assault a lot, but obviously LAAMniggers can run away harder with score with mindless LAAM spam.
>>584972612Forgot to add that the Su-25 is miserable enough to fly that I'm just stockpiling USB sticks to level it later.
>>584969725>xo02s and wyvns whats the difference
>>584972882I think one of them is the Wyvern and the other is the Strike Wyvern.
>>584972882Could do single seat Wyvern as fighter and double as multirole if they felt like it.Single seat has traditionally been multirole but if the game's going to have both that might change.
>>584972886unironically looks cooler
>>584969725>22 fancy DLC planes>60 golden BP each to max them (or 100 and 150 once they increase the level caps to 25 and 30).>1320 golden blueprints to max them all (3300 after level 30 level cap).Attack japan.
>>584971814But can it mog shadows
Stauros missiles/shells finally have a model
>Finally get an emergency sortie>Its the Arsenal Bird>The team has 4 MorgansAt least the game didnt crash
>>584973690They make it impossible to line up for a gun run. Fucking hell.
If a human could actually survive the G-forces ace combat throws at you can one singular super genius pilot actually turn the tide of a war?
>>584974115No
>>584974115No, because planes don't carry that many missiles and air dominance doesn't necessarily translate into taking and holding territory (although it does help).Air combat, and modern warfare in general, is very much a team effort.
>>584974115Maybe if the pilot drops a nuke or bigass bomb on some strategically significant target. There are two big problems.>1: AmmoThe russian flankers carry a lot of fucking missiles for a fighter. Like 14. Total.>2: missiles are stronger IRLMissiles are much stronger IRL. You aren't EVER going to kinetically dodge a missile with a quick turn outside of extremes of its minimum/maximum ranges. Flares and chaff are of questionable use to defeat their seekers. The principle way to defeat air defenses is to pussy foot around the extremes of the enemy's ranges. Ranges where "just turn around and fly away" is the top-tier defensive trick. So you basically just force each others fighters away with long range pussyfooting until your side's logistics keeps them suppressed long enough for the long range bombs to fuckup their airfields.War isn't a game of heroes and skill. It's a game of logistics and industrial output.
>>584973295does it not have one in the recomp?
>>584974115If missiles IRL just didn't have proximity fusesIf planes could survive blows that would tear real ones in half with just a scratchPerfect sensor fusion and near battlefield omniscience have been recently introduced with the F-35 and drones/sats seeing everything (besides shit hidden in rough terrain) but then still to do ace combat shit you would need planes with hammerspace that could carry enough ammunition to destroy entire regiments per flight.
>>584974570>You aren't EVER going to kinetically dodge a missile with a quick turn outside of extremes of its minimum/maximum rangesThere was that ONE time over Iraq.
>>584974684Like said, extremes of its minimum/maximum ranges. At extreme close range the missile is heavy and hasn't finished accelerating to effective speeds, and at long ranges the missile's motor has long burned out and you can bleed its energy with turns. But you're just fucking dead within the no-escape zone, and you're a fool if you think that you're built different.
>>584969725>SU-24>SU-24MPFencerbros.......
>>584969725their hatred for xfa33 is amazing, it's not even in this list despite being the most qualified superplane to appear lorewise.
>>584972454The X-40 is a predecessor to the Darkness of Engima project from 3, so yes. Maybe it was protosublimation.
>>584973295Typical hypersonic layout
>>584975016How much do japs want it, does PA even hear their wishes
>wake up>lazy japs still haven't ticked the linux checkbox in EACI'm not getting my morgan, am I...
>>584975623I'm pretty sure PSP sells better than XBOX back then and more people knows about ACX than AC6, yet Nosferatu is always the one getting all the future game reps
>>584975081ENSI.Sublimation is when they scan your brain and make a copy of you like in Soma.
>>58490866937 because I love ground pounding missions especially in the A-611 15 and those Lugia pokemon wannabe planes21 when the ECM plane shows up to help28 29
>>584974115Sure, if the Balkan shitholes went at it again one super ace could destroy the entire enemy airforce since they all have like a dozen planes.
>>584912376Pokemon yeye ass plane
>>584974115well, to put it more simply, missiles turn harder than jets do in real life. even if you could pull the Gs physically a missile can still pull more
>>584977053It's honestly really funny how nerfed missiles are in AC. And frankly any game that even tries to do realistic missiles like DCS or War Thunder is proof that BVR is gay and lame.
>>584977127Even War Thunder and DCS do some gigantic concessions when it comes to missile capabilities for the sake of gameplay.
>>584969725does anything seem obviously wrong here?and does anyone have any idea what "prvnc" could mean?
>>584977313a rafale variant perhaps
>>584977313>Still no F-111The hell are they DOING?>Pak-FAPossibly a Markov variant?
>>584977587shark bastard bros, we have retvrned
>>584977313>su24...is that another name for TND F3?
>>584977313P(lane)R(a)V(e)NC(ockpit)
>>584977313i'd say prvnc is raven and ephnx is xfa-27
>>584977698For a less retarded option the C could stand for COFFIN which the manned version has the unmanned one doesn't.
>>584977313>Viggen but no DrakenCome the fuck on PA.
>>584977713>i'd say prvnc is raven probably, yeah>and ephnx is xfa-27but where would the "e" come from?
>>584977934The XFA-27 is the ephnx in 7 as well
>>584977685>su24>...is that another name for TND F3?No, they just have similar layouts and swing-wings.The Su-24 was Soviet, and the Tornado was German, British, and Italian.>>584978060>The XFA-27 is the ephnx in 7 as wellIn the files, you mean?Because that makes it pretty unambiguous, then.
>>584977313Update to this, there are strings related to choosing the harrier for your wingmen so it was cut very late as it's also still listed with the playable craft.prvnc is the ADFX-10C
>>584978168>The Su-24 was Soviet, and the Tornado was German, British, and Italian.Huh, guess I'm just being racist then
I'm gonna be honest, I hate the anti war message of Ace CombatStrangereal would be far better off if nations just annihilated their enemies and conquered them each war instead of gay ass returns to status quo
>>584969725>a04fgot my hopes up for a second that was A-4F :(
>>584978296>T. Belka
>>584978330Don't worry it is>>584969725These are all the variantsSu-37 Yellow 13 F-15C Strider F-16C Trigger ADF-11F Trigger F-2 Yatagarasu F-5 Wardog CFA-44 Pasternak F-14A Razgriz Su-30SM Mihaly F-104 Avril F-22 Mobius
>>584974765>you're a fool if you think you're built differentHe specified the guy IS built different, Botha super genius at air combat and capable of withstanding the insane Gs without blackouts or redouts. You'd have to factor in real world limitations to G-force on A&P, or have to get a crew capable of reinforcing it, but that'll add weight, it's a graveyard spiral of bent wings and stress fractures.
>>584978243Then it's almost a shoe-in as a DLC plane right? Usually these types of dripfeed updates push out stuff that wasn't ready for release.
>>584978243>It actually stands for P(lane)R(a)V(e)NC(ockpit)Lmoa
>>584978409Good example, wiping out Belka and occupying the land would've been better for the world
>>584978448>they add the MiG 1.44 Hamilton>only.plane with player collision on>also acts like a magnet when near enemy planes
>>584978243>prvnc is the ADFX-10Cwaitthe ADFX-10F was the unmanned full-sized fighter variantand the ADFX-10 was the little UAV in that lived in its nose and could separate to fly on its ownso what's the ADFX-10C?>there are strings related to choosing the harrier for your wingmen so it was cut very late as it's also still listed with the playable craft.this could mean that it's still coming later as DLC, or it could mean that the licensing agreement fell through and it's never coming at all
>>584978606They already have the harrier license, licensing planes is actually really easy and people should stop pretending PA can't get certain planes
>>584978448Do named variants have different stats and weapons than the base plane? Or is it basically just a skin?I hope they're not all superplane tier stats. We should have cool variants for every cost bracket
>>584978606>>584978724Yeah, if they didn't have the licence then it wouldn't be in the game. No way they could possibly get an agreement that allows it to be an NPC plane but not a player one, that'd make no sense.
>wanna run shitpost and gameplay mods already but I haven't finished my ace playthroughI JUST WANNA POST STALL IN THE SUPER HORNET PICK MY SQUAD MATES WEAPONS ALREADY.
>>584978928It was that way in previous entries I doubt it'll change a whole lot.
>Good one guys! We saved the day the war is over peace at last!>General Resource jumpscare at the end.Not gonna lie it kinda soured my otherwise perfect victory lap.
good night, brosI hope I dream of Kate
>>584979240fear it, dread it, run from it.The electrosphere arrives all the same
>>584979358night anoni dreamt of the first snow of winter and my estranged father last night
>>584978937>>584978724what could explain PA having had this Harrier license for multiple games across maybe fucking decades at this point, but never having actually let us fly one?do they really think that it would be less popular than some of the other random stuff that they include, like the Su-25?
>>584979484They don't know how to do VTOL and don't want to make a playable harrier if it can't do VTOL.
>>584979036But the Super Hornet can post stall
>>584979568Project wingman just disabled stall on the harrier just do that
>>584979568just copy what pw did
>>584979598damn that's smart
>>584979583I wanna do the funny post stalls, PW had fried my brain with AoA limiter and the turbo guns
>>584979568they could just port over their helicopter flight model from AC:AH
>>584979598>>584979624PA should give the harrier a nuke SPW too.
>>584979484Mix of it being VTOL and subsonic, only made it into infinity because AH had a shitty vtol system where you could keep your nose up in a stall
>>584980067>made it into infinity holy shit I forgot about that
>>584972886He went to the sheep village looking for a wig
Was it intentional that the terminus fingers looked a lot like Crimson
>>584980549Probably a Phoenix reference that coincidentially looks similar, but i like to believe it's also an intentional PW reference.
>>584980549no
>>584970069That's a pretty decent lockon range.
>>584970069No more single target multilock? That's a massive buff
>>584981635They made it so 8AGM only locks two missiles per target at most, so it seems like they finally figured out that the lock stacking is awful. Though 8AGM double locking is still bad.
Do you like how PW does locking on ground units, when you can't attack, say, a ship, directly, until you've removed all of the other targets on the ship (AAs, SAMs) etc?I'm not sure if I'm a fan of that.
>>584982019I fucking hated that, and loved it when they gave me a missile that just skipped all that.
>>584982019don't like it either, but it's more of a trouble for aerial ships than sea ships, the latter is usually machinegun fodder, but nothing a well placed railgun shot or ASM can't fix if you play with Chimera or PW Mk.1
>>584982019It's dumb. If I kill the actual ship directly then the other things go down with it. Simple as.
>>584982129Not him but I actually like it because it gives the ships a little more staying power vs just existing to be wiped out in ACA very minor upgrade
>>584982086>>584982129I ended up bombing (aerial ships) with unguided shit. Tomcat has those and it was the best twin-seater in the game that I had to stick with.
>>584982225well I don't have that much of a problem with it either aside from a certain sam/aa gun parts of the ship seems to misguide my missile, making it miss for some reason
>>584969725>>584977313WHERE'S MY FUCKING FENRIR YOU FUCKING PIGS
>>584982362Funny enough online solves it in a different way, by bloating the shit out of the ship hp so without the right weapons youre forced to eat the aa because the ship doesnt immediately fold to two missiles and a gun
>>584982492yeah, fucking hate fighting ships online, at least now I have a LACM boat to deal with these tanky fucks
so what's the actual best spw if you're a beast at flying with godlike nose authority
land battleship has to be the stupidest concept ever
>>584982686>boat, seacan sink>boat, landcan't sinkit's based actually
>finally try 6 recompWhy was every early 360 like *that*, especally japanese games? Everything feels so wide open but it feels slow despite combat situations going just as quick as they would in the PS2 games.Also, I swear so many games had really weird font choices for UI and menus, but AC6 is probably the least offensive compared to games like Burnout Revenge's 7th gen release.Otherwise not bad, although I'm on roughly mission 4 and I'm not feeling this story. Can anyone who's tried the recomp confirm any major gameplay differences from the actual 360 release, sometimes I feel these recomps fuck with cpu ai behavior because I actually managed to beat F-Zero X on Master on that recomp and it feels like a fluke since I always had issues on real hardware (I even used a real N64 controller but I'm getting off topic here) so I'm wondering if there's any weird issues on other people's end.
>>584982624TLS, obviously.
>>584982720>can't sinkall it takes is one land submarine
>>584982686nah that shits kino desu
>>584982834
>>584982686We have the flying aircraft carrier
>>584981843>picked 8AGM after trying out 8AAM>sharp inhale as I see the double lockThey were THIS close man
>>584982720>boat, seacan go anywhere in wants on the sea>boat, landdefeated by hills and cliffs, basically only works on flatlands
>>584982730>I'm on roughly mission 4The AI, outside of the Crimson squad and some other enemies later, is pretty forgiving and half-braindead. I believe it was the case on 360 as well.
>>584983003>defeated by hills and cliffs, basically only works on flatlandsjust shoot your way throughwhat are ya stoopid?
>>584983138railguns can't drill a tunnel through a big mountain
>>584983210yes they can
>>584982492Ship HP is insanely bloated while not being worth that many points. That's why attackers usually ignore them or just drop a few bombs to clear away their batteries and then ignore the main body unless every other ground target is dead.
>>584983210Checkmate Poseidon apologist.
>>584983210with enough ammo anything is possible
>>584983210The Grunder Industries research department thanks you for your contribution to the think tankAnd by think tank I do not refer to our patented Think Tank that shoots psychic energy at enemy planes
>>584983506lel
>>584982686It's even funnier when you consider that the first fight the Sotoans decided to pick were with the Yukes. You know, the country that invested all their civ tech points spec'ing into SUBMARINES, the hard counter to their trump card.Entered the rock playing competition playing scissors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZcrAciOdWMhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2991650/DAWN_AEROWARDamn, I thought it was a videogame at first.
>>584984326>>584984326>>584984326>>584984326
>>584984104Why does steam allow non-games?
>>584984352I don't know.It's always been like this.
>>584967494Anti-skill weapon.
>>584983905No submarines on land, anon
>>584967494I've been bagging big scary money planes in my POS mig21 with SASM and it still feels as cathartic as it did in AC7 PVP
>>584976110Nosferatu lets you go full Macross Missile Massacre, of course they're putting it everywhere.
>>584908774Surprising that the one thing in this post that isn't fake are the original planes and the song itself.
>>58490866926 when you launch off the carrier right into incoming naval gunfire
