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>previous thread >>584945368
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world of warlock: forever
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who is nientonsoh why does that sound familiar
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Based as fuck warlock guy.
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All the people who stuck around and ran down to blow fireworks was nice. Warlockguy is /ourguy/
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>>584957735
former league pro played for CLG back in the old old days
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What do I do for 16 days?
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>Warlock guy stands up
>Pulls off mask
>It's Rich Cambell
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NA won
again

hydrafag forever malding over it btw
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>>584957640
this druid turns into an obeast form
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>>584957627
>warlock guy got to lose for free yet the other guy doesn't get this privilege
Yeah I have no idea what they are doing. Pretty baffling actually.
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SODA LOST
PAYO LOST
PSHERO LOST
CDEW LOST
STAYSAFE LOST

ALEXENSUAL WON
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If warlock guy is so strong why did he need the admins help to win?
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>mfw fighting against warlocks
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>>584957640
im built like this btw
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LET'S FUCKING GO, WARLOCKGUY
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
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nerf warlock
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Shoutout to SNUTZ!!!
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WARLOCK GUY!
NA!
WARLOCK GUY!
NA!
WARLOCK GUY!
NA!
WARLOCK GUY!
NA!
WARLOCK GUY!
NA!!
WARLOCK GUY!
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EU LOST
SWEDEN LOST

USA FOREVER
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Snutz won
It's so obvious it's snutz, he's making it obvious with his victory speech lmao.
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bruh on the emotional rollercoaster
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>he just had to put down his dog
Fuck, I'm glad he won.
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Alright, glad that he won.
Good man.

t. EUfag
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I hope he makes a statue of his warlockchad
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eat shit, eurosissies
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OH NO NOT THE HECKIN DOGERINO!
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>>584957735
former CLG league player
rank 1 tbc player
rank 1 tbc classic player on both druid and lock
rank 1 deadlock player
top 100 dota player

unironic actual god gamer
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Esfand is the guy who sits in the front row of the lecture hall and talks to the professor.
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>>584957859
Didn't he withdraw from the tournament for "personal reasons"?
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>Shoutout to Snutz
t. snutz
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they should make night elves look like me
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>>584957986
God I hate that guy.
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>>584957970
>gets a sally whitemane statue made
he won at life
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>there are "people" who enjoy twisting
Lol
Lmao even
Literal ret tards.
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>>584957854
was the other lock not in the us?
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>>584957984
what has he won except for this meme shit?
has he won a real pvp tournament?
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double elimination for everyone except the guy who didn't lose a match til finals, what fucking horseshit omg
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>>584958005
The personal reasons being that he was caught buying like 500g because he was behind.
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>>584958081
No he was some swedish sissy
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>CS players should join these tournaments too since it's obvious that absolutely everyone that plays this shit is terrible
ngl, I was actually kinda impressed with Summit's play, he's just some shitter FPS player and took to WoW PvP pretty readily
FPS gamers mite just be better
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>>584958065
they should remove seal twisting to appeal to me, someone who doesn't even play the class.
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>>584958005
He quit because quitting looks better then being banned for cheating.
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>Xaryu put on an actual suit and tie and did almost all of the actual casting
>Esfand threw a gold sequin blazer (with half the sequins rubbed off from sitting in his gamer chair) over gym shorts with no shoes and called it a day
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>>584958095
It was supposed to be double elimination until they changed their minds at the last minute too.
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SISSIES WON
BIG SWARTHY EGYPTIANS LOSTED
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Remember Snutz cheated and didn't register in time and all wow pvp at the highest level is done by an actual mafia of win trading scumbag cowards
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Is the 8 trillion hour tourney over yet
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>>584958160
Nigga everybody plays ret paladin
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Grateful to warlock guy for the incoming warlock nerfs
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>>584958168
esfand = john madden
xaryu = pat summerall
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>>584958082
He also won the 3v3 CDL tournament back in classic, does that count?

The played Warlock/Hunter/Priest IIRC
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>>584958117
so the guy who lives the nearest to the datacenters won?
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>>584958095
huge iq from warlockguy throwing in winners finals
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>>584957986
He's the guy that does that but even the professor hates him.
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>he did it for his doggo
i am bawling
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>>584957970
When the hyjal crater eventually becomes accessible they should add a small monument at the center of it.
><The writing is faded nearly to the point of illegibility, the most you can make out is a testament to the accomplishments of a powerful warlock. By all accounts, he was a hell of a guy.>
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>takes your 50k
heh, nothing personel kid
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GGs
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can we get arena now?
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>>584958168
They will never match the greatest wow caster of all time.
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gamer
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>>584958168
Esfand did a better job. "Casting" is gay and never shutting the fuck up is obnoxious.
Xaryu was a mega try hard trying to act like this wasn't just random retards playing wow, acting like it was super serious and this is about his career as a Blizzard rep.
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>>584958219
Yep, SL lock won. Shocker there.
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>>584958168
you don't understand. esfand is a funny guy. he has a funny jacket. please laugh.

>>584958302
the most mormon looking guy of all time
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>>584958251
Was for >>584958150
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>>584958281
american game
american internet
american world
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>>584958379
rank 130 in dota 2 na ladder is not a achievement

also 4.2k in overwatch was not good either

hots too was dead easy game
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>White timmycel dogless virgin won
YIKES not a good look for Blizzard in 2026
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BOW DOWN TO WARLOCKGAWDS

BOW DOWN TO WARLOCKGAWDS

BOW DOWN TO WARLOCKGAWDS

BOW DOWN TO WARLOCKGAWDS

BOW DOWN TO WARLOCKGAWDS

BOW DOWN TO WARLOCKGAWDS
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>ping advantage
>gets rules changed in his favour
>gets given food and drink despite no trading after they enter the arena
>doesn't even have the grace to thank his opponent after the match
typical american behaviour, no wonder no one likes them
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>person wins event
>starts crying about something completely unrelated to the event
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>>584958482
Wait snutz actually got banned from WoW? LOL
I thought he "backed out"
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>>584958352
is that mia malkovas bf?
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warlockguy sounds like a nice guy and at least neepzen gets 5k still and bragging rights for knocking soda out of the tournament
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>>584958449
cope dotard
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>>584958496
you lost, faggot. eat a dick in hell
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SNUTZ CONFIRMED BANNED
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>tips confirming snutz was banned
jej
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> Tipsout leaking that Snutz got banned.
kek, no shit. Everyone that believed that "something just came up" is beyond retarded.
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>>584958262
exactly
>>584958382
xaryu is the stat guy and esfand is the color guy, that's how its supposed to be
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>>584958575
>cant win unless they cheat
like I said, typical american behaviour
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Snutz was ROBBED
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>>584958426
they will deny it but when the heat doesnt turn on this winter they will only be reminded of who makes things happen
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>>584958590
>>584958632
Based. No cheater should be able to save face with such an obvious lie.
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>>584958525
He bought gold.
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>>584958525
>snutz got banned

he bought gold didnt he?
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I go to Taco Bell and an entire thread blows by. Dang.
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>>584958496
seething euroid lmfao
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> pshero caught for stream sniping in his last duel
lol these streamers are all scumbags.
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okay tournament is over and so is forever. hype is dead. alex was right.
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>>584958642
>cant win
but enough about europe
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i miss old wow and blizzard, bros
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>>584958514
id cry too if my dog died the day before the tournament started
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What class had the best duels on average throughout the tournament? I'd argue
1.) Hunter
2.) Shaman
3.) Mage, with the exception of the duel that went so long that the mage started conjuring water
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Tom Ellis is fired yes. Me have spy info. No big yell about it, they just hope it go away quiet. Quiet leave. Stop workers from saying mad things on computer. Other workers got scared talking class. Blizzard no want launch get broken. Chud people happy they win.
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>>584958694
yeah, RMT'd 500g
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Did someone clip tips saying they banned snutz?
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this tournament was actually free money for snutz if he just started playing the beta when it was released and he didn't have to buy gold because he started three weeks late
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>>584958793
why have rules if you're not gonna follow them?
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>>584958496
Your shithole country will throw you into the meatgrinder in the back of a van like they did with the entire population of ukraine when Russia and nato go to war without the us. Get out while you still can if you are smart.
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>>584958687
>>584958694
no no no it was just his fans sending gold
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How will the tournament affect class ratios come launch?
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gg warlock guy and sorry to hear about his dog but that will heal with time
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>>584958590
>>584958632
Snutz didn't use the strat of having "viewers" trade him gold on stream. Rookie mistake.
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Any of you guys watching Pika's stream? You see this Pshero clip? He's fucking stream sniping in the rogue mirror to find out where he is.
AND HE STILL FUCKING LOST DESPITE SNIPING AND GETTING THE OPENER.

Get fucked.
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>None of the people singing work for Blizz anymore
wow so kino... were so b-back...
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>>584958764
nah dog he was just reading his chat while desperately trying to guess where the other rogue was stealthed with thousands of dollars on the line
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>>584958805
He needed that extra soul shard
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SOVL
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>>584958764
https://www.twitch.tv/psherotv/clip/BraveHandsomeCattleSmoocherZ-YbvEovNy42vpLvaR
wheres he looking
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>>584958946
well, worked out didn't it?
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warrior hunter and shaman are the only honest classes
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>>584958946
kek, fuck me for laughing
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>>584958992
Esfand ruined it, he never shuts the fuck up
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>>584958832
I got the impression snutz is rich anyway
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>American wins and has a nice tearjerker about just having to put his dog down

A picture perfect finish
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>>584958694
Of course not. The degenerate gambler and fansly employee would never do anything unethical. His 100 viewers farmed 10,000 gold every day through totally legitimate means.
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>>584958890
>exposes the cabal
>exposes secret duel tech
>exposes streamsnipers/cheaters
when are they gonna off him? he knows too much
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>>584958764
>>584959010
>>584958890
I'm glad he got obliterated by Justwoo.
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>>584959042
>Not watching Pikaboo
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>warlockguy is autistic and never notices the concert being thrown for him before hearthing out

kek
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>>584959019
you forgot mage
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>>584959061
>does nothing but sponsored gambling these days
Yeah, no shit.
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>>584958848
little american tradition called laughing to the bank
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>>584959156
Gigachad
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ahl confirmed all good guilds going alliance
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what does it mean when guildies are calling me an egg
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>>584959061
snutz works for fansly (which was started by some other wow pvper, merkx lol)
chanimal apparently asked snutz to get him a job there, and snutz either couldn't or wouldn't do it, so now chan has to do bullshit data analysis work down in melbourne
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Man imagine if in December winter zones are snowing all the time and maybe even some adjacent zones have some snow falling
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>>584959343
people who dont thank their opponents after winning are as far away from chad as you can get
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think I'm going to build up a shadow resist set on my mage at 50-60
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>>584958296
There's an irony there, of there being a dedication to a -warlock- in the midst of the Burning Legion devastated Hyjal. Did the -demons- sneak in the memorial while they were fleeing?
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>>584959402
it means you smell like sulfur
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>>584958890
>spam tab and sap hoping you do it first
c-cheater!!
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>>584959435
seethe
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>>584959061
Of course he is. He's a completely uneducated crypto billionaire, wall street trading expert and also makes millions gambling on slots. He totally wouldn't lie about any of these things.
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>>584958946
But I need him. I need all of them.
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>>584958806
mage bcuz im playing mage
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>>584959387
word, olympus 1-150 all rolling alli
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you think blizzard made the incubus stronger than the succ on purpose so their tournament would not be dominated by big titty demons ?
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>>584959435
Warlock players don't deserve respect

A hustler got hustled harder and that's that, fuck em
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>>584959482
just stating the facts brother, it's brown thirdie behaviour
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>>584959435
He thanked snutz though?
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>>584959461
yeah dude his eyes are just looking at his other monitor all the way through until after he landed the sap, i'm sure he wasnt looking at the other guys stream
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>>584959532
no, everyone just forgot the incubus existed because some woke retard that got laid off forced it in classic
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>>584959435
he said gg
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I didn't watch the tournament.
Can I get a tldr?
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>>584959639
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>>584958896
Samwise still does contract work for Blizzard and Dave Berggren was last credited on Overwatch 2 in 2022.
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>>584959639
>Can I get a tldr?
warlocks played it on ezmode
cdew got given the easy route and lost immediately when he faced a warlock
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>>584959639
streamers got ass blasted even after getting the biggest handouts and some of them cheating
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I can't play warlock and pvp because them I'm the faggot playing warlock. Mage druid warrior it is
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>>584959436
Not really worth. You need a LOT more resistance at higher levels for it to be effective.
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>>584959639
All the streamers lost and warlocks dominated. Some random guy called warlockguy won it.
Also Snutz was confirmed to have been cheating and RMT'ed and was banned from the game over it which is why he wasn't in the tournament.
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>>584959248
Snutz has barely any viewers and almost no social media presence. He isn't even remotely popular enough to get big payouts from Stake or other gambling outlets. His job at Fansly is nothing special either.
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>>584959639
streamers lost
retail lost
warriors lost
eu lost
warlockguy won
4chan won
america won
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>Highest IQ and Highest skill ceiling class won

Good.
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>don't let players get the pvp trinket during beta
>the class with a spammable 10s fear wins
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LOCKED
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I guess this means lock is getting all the nerfs
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>>584959532
Wait the male succubus is real? I thought it was just a /vg/ gay/tranny meme
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>>584959857
CAGED
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>>584959639
warlock wins duels, just like every other iteration of classic wow
mages all lost because they can't kill a healer without ooming
ret pala was actually pretty solid
shaman was decent, both resto/ele hybrid and enhance did well
hunters get hard countered by warlocks and healers (because no viper at 30)
rogue kills clothies in garrote/goblin land mine bursts, but can't kill sham/pala/warlock, so they all lost
priest is ok, unfavored vs warlock and sham
druid is like priest
warrior sucks, but prot was clearly better than arms
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How did Rogues do in the tournament
Are they getting buffs
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>>584959840
slow and boring does not equal high IQ lil gup
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>>584959876
they forgot to nerf it when they nerfed all lock pets
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>>584959865
it depends how retarded blizzard are
personally I don't think they are retarded in that particular way
because there is no reason to nerf warlocks over stupid ass lvl 30 duels
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>>584958165
Dwarf master race. Still slightly annoyed the paladins don't get ram chargers.
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>>584959639
no warriors
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despite the sheep and fear spam garbage I still found the druid hybrid healer garbage the most annoying, letting them regen mana in cat form is the dumbest shit
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>>584959840
needs her genitals confined
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>>584958449
the guy is highest rank in literally everything he touches there are people that spend all their waking moments playing dota and don't come close to even top2000 on dota
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>made a level 1 alt a while ago for whispering people
>log in today and the boots are broken
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>>584959953
>ret pala was actually pretty solid
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>>584959957
raped. pshero tried to cheat and lost
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>>584960017
warriors made it further than mages tho
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>have Storm, Earth and Fire play at the end of the tournament
>balance the game so that shamans, the characters that the song is about, couldn't possibly win the tournament
What a bastard.
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>>584960009
warlocks will win the tournaments at 60 as well
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>>584959957
they did so-so, but mostly got wrecked.
honestly instead of major buiffs all they need to do is undo the nerfs they put into forever, all the little percentages here and there that add up bigly.
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>>584959815
>Also Snutz was confirmed to have been cheating and RMT'ed and was banned from the game over it
Kek.
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>>584959451
Warlocks fought the Burning Legion in the Legion expansion. They want to control demons for power, not be killed or conquered by them.
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>>584959815
The ending we didn't deserve
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>>584959957
raped, rogues are missing their shit
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I was happy at the beginning of the beta when no one was playing warlock but a handful of us. Now every retard will play one fml
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Warriors got further than mages in the tournament, mages was the worst performing class of them all. How the fuck did we get here fellow wizards
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>>584958525
he didn't get banned he dropped because he's down like 100k gamba this month and near that last 2 months, he just claimed mental health
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So..... What do we do now? Just call each other brown until the launch?
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>>584960115
yeah, it's not worth balancing around duels in general, and blizzard said they aren't gonna do it
duels are retarded, good for some fun but wow is not meant to be a serious dueling game
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>>584959957
Mir didn't even make the main bracket
Pshero actually did okay, but he lost the mirror to Justwoo
Justwoo is a PvE-brained parselord in bipolar, so I'm pretty impressed that he did so well in a PvP tourney 3bh

Rogue just kills in a 100-0 bleed combo, and if it can't do that, it resets until it can
Rogue is kinda half a class until they get blind, so this tourney doesn't mean much
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>>584960121
Rogue talent trees are utterly beyond fucked. The 2 new capstones are absolute fucking garbage and taking all the damage modifiers out of Opportunity, Lethality, etc make them fucking pathetic.
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Twitch can be so sweet to people. it's cute seeing warlockguy get raided into support from the chat.
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>>584959991
Ha! I didn't watch the tourney, but I can see from this thread that a Warlock won it. Was he using the un-nerfed pet? Based if so.
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>>584960241
no he got banned
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>>584958396
He'll celebrate this victory with 2 big bottles of soda and soaking with his favourite cousin all night long.
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>>584958352
Why is he not involved in WoW anymore after everyone seems to agree that his allegations had no weight?
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>>584960237
pom pyro will fix this
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>>584960303
>1000 new subs
yeah that is nice
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>>584960307
the final was lock vs lock with neither using the bugged pet
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>>584960237
mages were never gonna be good at lvl 30 unless they had some totally broken new shit
there is no way they can beat healers or warlocks
same at 60 unless their burst gets completely insane
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>>584960307
No they were using felhunters.
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>>584960049
All I could think about watching those skillless retard ret pallies like Azzu play with their one button DPS rotation and engi macro was Aggrend's fat fucking face

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Were there any cool techs besides dragonbreath chili?
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>race: undead
>class: rogue
>minmaxing
>speedrunning
>buying gold
>skipping quest text and lore
>being racist
>dabbing on tranny clothcucks
Yep it's time to game
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>>584960039
Those boots were made for walking.
And that's just what they'll do.
And one of these days those boots are gonna walk all over (((YOU))).
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are warriors going to be giga overplayed again
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>>584959095
See, woke hollywood? This is the type of story people crave.
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>bites you
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>>584960383
Sodapoppin developed this new trick where he thought about getting black dicks in his butthole, it wasn't very effective.
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>>584960442
warriors are going to be the least player class in forever after this
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>>584960381
>skilless
I have found my class
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What a boring shitty end to the tourney, they should’ve capped warlocks somehow going into the semis, like have them purposefully duel each other so that the grand finale wasn’t fucking WlWl
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>>584958869
it won't, lock still sucks to play
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>>584960241
Tipsout specifically used the word BANNED and emphasized it.
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>>584960439
god i need her. impregnate her and then get child support
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>>584960356
He is too busy helping his 'girlfriend' find new bulls to record more Blacked scenes
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>>584960549
She's like 60 anon, no eggs.
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>>584960549
Your children will have downs syndrome.
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>>584960549
she is definitely menopausal anon
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>>584960132
Yeah, but this is Hyjal pre-vanilla/forever WoW, even. This damage would've been from the Third War, pre "Warlocks exist as a WoW class, so they begin to exist in the lore as non-antagonists."
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>>584960532
nobody cares about lvl 30 pvp duels
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>>584960549
good luck impregnating a post-menopausal woman
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I decided to play a warlock weeks ago and now everyone will think I'm on the bandwagon because of how well they did in this tournament.
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>>584960502
i never finish this guys quest until im already bis geared
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>>584960532
mage and warlock are tied for least played, warrior is middle of the pack
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>>584960664
>>584960636
>>584960630
these nagas dont know about in vitro fertilization
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>>584959857
>>584959914
every russian man's natural state
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>>584960651
They have time to add some new warlock lore.
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nien playing under a no name alias like "warlockguy" is actually rather high IQ
some true degen shit right there
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>>584960547
is there a clip
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So what class do I play if I want to be a PvP GOD but don't want to be a dirty warlock?
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>>584960386
troon-coded post
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>>584960386
>playing like a poor brownoid gold farmer earning 1,5 dollar a day
>posts image of a white guy
nice try rajeesh
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>>584960667
there will be no bandwagon retard warlocks win every tournament

>>584960785
mage
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>keep hearing how mages are obnoxious to fight in PvP and how they're kings of controlling a fight
>the best of them cant even get further than a fucking prot warrior in a tournament
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>>584960785
anything with stealth
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>>584959969
where's your tobey mcguire reaction image after he married his jewish ex-wife off to a nigger, gup bitch
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>>584960667
everyone has known for a long time that locks are op in 1v1s, people just don't want to play it
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>warlock rerollers on live release when everyone has a pvp trinket for their bullshit fear
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>>584960871
theyre annoying because they sheep you and run away
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>>584960749
A lone warlock, breaking free and standing tall against the Burning Legion (the other warlocks) for a heroic portal-reversing moment to protect Omen, the doggo.
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>>584958296
What would the hyjal crater even be, from a gameplay and lore perspective? Maybe a FFA PvP area with furbolg architecture?
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Now that the dust has settled what class would i enjoy most as a fromsoft enjoyer, particularly the aesthetics and feels i think it basically has to be warrior / pala / maybe warlock but i think magic is gay as fuck and if you beat any fromsoft game as a caster you didn’t actually beat it
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>>584960871
You are profoundly retarded, vacuous
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>>584960785
Shaman, get lucky with wf procs and make montages
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ahlandoh said you need to pay for sky elf if you want to parse
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>>584960785
Mage, Rogue
Playing a slow-paced, duel-focused class like DPriest or Resto Druid or Hunter fucking blows at 60
If you want to actually have fun in PvP, play something with burst
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>>584960890
lil gups crashing out
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>>584960954
arms war
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>humble american guy wins instead of some gay eceleb

Maybe this Tournament was soulful
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I might take up engineering because im now obsessed over the mechanical dragon thing being utterly useless yet terribly hype in concept
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You faggots do know there's an actual pvp mafia in this game and Snutz can easily play on another account without anyone ever knowing, right
You can't be this fucking dumb and naive can you, you have to be trolling
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>>584960667
same desu
But I always do warlock main so my friends at least will know I'm a real one
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>>584960892
>people just don't want to play it
You don't think this tournament will get tons of more people playing warlock now?
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>>584960785
Unironically Druid
>can beat every class in the game at 60
>designated flag running chad of wsg/dsi
If you want spectacle then you go mage as even with aoe nerfs no other class in the game can jump into a raid and potentially kill them all with a mage aoe+engineering wombo
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Truthnvke: Duels are inherently gay because of the range restriction.

WPvP is completely superior.
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>>584961041
They should make a one boss 40 man raid above Gnomeregan that's dedicated to fighting a full sized one.
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>>584960785
any, or rather it depends what role you want to play in pvp and what kind of pvp you like
every class was quite good in vanilla with the right spec, however they have strengths and weaknesses
warlock was good 1v1 but lacked mobility and was easily fucked in group battles against melees + healers
also rather weak in the field against multiple ranged attackers
wow pvp is not all about 1v1s
things will change in forever but it's hard to predict how it will play out
so I would say you should play a class you think is cool
personally I think mobile and bursty classes are the most fun, like mage
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>>584961041
>hour cooldown
>everyone treating it like some huge win condition
>someone finally just turns around and hits it like 3 times
>it dies
...That's it?
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>>584961041
he cute
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>>584960871
redditors complained until they got ice lance gutted
don't you love it when devs cater to loud, whiny retards?
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>>584961016
G
U
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C
V
C
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>>584961072
>the chat started saying warlockguy was snutz
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>>584961072
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>>584961145
who does this matter for besides hunters
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>>584961041
Mechanical Greenches, assemble and roll out.
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>>584961038
THIS!! SO MUCH THIS!! SOVL OVERLOAD!
I'M GONNA BUY TIPSOUT™ FOREVER LEVELING GUIDE™ RIGHT FREAKIN NOW SISTER!!
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>>584960785
shadow priest will probably still be pretty good again it just didnt show in this tournament cause nobody could get shadow form
if they keep shadow word: death into launch that spell will probably do rape damage also
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>>584960871
gay duel tournament != pvp in general
hope this helps, catshitter
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>>584961248
It matters for everyone, you fucking retard.
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What are the chances I'll even get to raid as a paladin tank?
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>>584960549
>impregnate her
Anon, we need to talk about biology.
But I'm with you. She reminds me of this girl boss bitch I grew up with and went to school with. She was a total Hermoine, know it all, wouldn't shut the fuck up. Everybody was all:
>Allison is so smart, she will go on to great things
I dated her in middle school, got some boobs my first BJ and a couple fingers in before she dumped me.
A couple years later in high school she started whoring out for the older guys just as cell phone pics and video sharing were becoming capable (no apps or Snapchat yet). Her video of her getting DP'd got passed around via cellphone as well as burnt fucking CDs!! I guess looking back that was CP because of her age, but we were all the same age.
Anyways, she dropped out of high school and I think breeds pit bulls now.
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>>584961203
>my spamable instant cast button doesnt do 1/3rd hp anymore? wtf blizzard unfair!!
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Use promocode FAGGRENDFATFAGGOT for 70% off 20% of your restedxp purchase!
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>>584960954
>retard whos biggest achievement in life is beating a fromsoft game and needs to exclaim his 'triumph' to others so his insecurities doesnt keep him awake at night
nobody asked faggot, we have enough tourists like you, go back from whence you came
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>>584961085
>retards roll warlock en masse because of a level fucking thirty tourney rife with RMT and where consumables did most if not all the lifting and only won because on demand fear
>come release
>massive crying that they don't destroy people left and right like what they saw
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>>584961348
high
it's not that hard for them to make each tank at least viable in raids, and people will cry about it a lot if they don't
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>>584961389
so true, sister! nerf lance again! or just remove it!
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>>584961332
who else would need or want infinite range duels
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>>584961348
Did you tank dungeons while leveling and find a group of people you liked playing with enough to join their guild / start a guild with? If you formed enough of a bond with others to head into 60 with a small community established, then you're good to main/2nd tank due to the power of nepotism.

If you remained alone all the way to 60, then it depends how reliable you perform in pugged content to get recruited.
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>>584960241
You streamer fags really are the dumbest people on the planet. Yeah I'm sure he just dropped out.
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>>584961476
finally a tranny making sense
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>>584961241
Hi, Snutz
How many ways are you splitting the cash prize this time
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>>584961348
A lot better since we will have 10 and 20 mans.
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I can't pogging wait (on a log) for the game to officially release.
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>>584960782
Im sure there is, but I dont have it. Watched it live when he said it though.
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druid or priest healer pls heelp
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>MageFAGGOTS tactically threw the tourny so they could justify crying for more buffs
How can you not all see through their bullshit? They're playing the long game.
FUCK MAGES. Delete Ice Lance from the fucking game and give them LITERALLY nothing to compensate for it.
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I don't know if I want to play Forever. I've heard a lot of botting RMT shit and everyone's played every classic variation a million times over for almost a decade now.
The blue elfs look cool though
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>>584961442
>>massive crying that they don't destroy people left and right like what they saw
A mid warlock can beat a mid anything by just using death coil, fear, dots, and life drain.
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>"x" class will be popular but people will get bored before 60 and just quit because of so and so reasons
Do people really not manage to level their first character to 60?
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>>584961656
You can't go wrong with priest, if healing is your focus.
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>>584960256
Why is blind so strong for rogues. One sided Full reset? Guarantees restealth?
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What's your take on Paladins in Forever? Both PvE and PvP and their specs if possible. I want to hear from some intelligent people for once.
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>>584961673
Ice lance lets them save people from dying to mobs in hardcore doe.
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gillee is the only legit gold making content guy, right?
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how can warlock simultaneously be so strong in almost every facet but also so fucking unfun to play? HOW
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>>584961656
Druid feels like the stronger healer but priest has the most variety in how to heal in both specs and spells. If your focus is to heal, you can't go wrong with priest.
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>>584961736
Ret is strong but needs engineering in pvp, hpal is a meme now.
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Why is sodapoppin so mad?
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>>584960667
Don't worry warlocks will remain one of the least popular classes.
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>>584961693
I think a lot of noobs/tourists/dadgamers will not reach 60. Especially if they play on PvP. It takes a long time, and most retards won't play very efficiently so it will take many days /played. They will get bored and realise they suck. Classic wow isn't that hard but it does take some amount of knowledge and commitment to keep going.
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>>584961315
>catshitter
YWNBAC(at)
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>>584961673
nah they just got fucked by frost resistance stacking
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>>584961863
he's gay and fat and doesn't realize he's not 16 anymore
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>>584961719
Because the actual majority of rogues, not limited to just the ones in webms and on streams, will either forget Blind exists, forget to have bought the reagent it needs, or will hit Blind, then either still attack, or will have a DoT on the target and break it early anyway.
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>>584961863
Because he turbo tryharded for nothing.
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>>584961863
He has to watch his girlfriend take the bull now instead of taking him himself.
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>>584961713
at this point i’m looking for reasons not to play priest i feel like there’s gotta be something im missing
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looking good for gooners
https://files.catbox.moe/93sjqu.mp4
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>>584961656
Priest offers better throughput, but Druids get to get their name called out in raid chat when someone needs a brez
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>>584961736
Ret is looking good, prot is looking good too since all the tanks are looking good, holy is probably the worst healer in the game right now though.
PvP wise paladins not really amazing for PvP besides being annoying to kill or doing the reckbomb meme.
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Who's more raped right now? Horde or alliance?
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>>584961894
I like cats, but I've noticed a certain pattern in catposters. A pattern of retardation.
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gonna miss this place man
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>>584961963
tits too big.
thighs too fat.
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>>584962037
Oh, so there is a halloween event?
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>>584961824
Warlock gameplay is for the ADHD-dissociators who detach from playing World of Warcraft and instead juggle 3 spinning plates on sticks in the form of their warlock, the enemy [class], and the battlefield around them.

In other words: RTS players.
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>>584961863
Sacrificed his dignity and reputation for the tourney only to lose. He gets nothing and is now a gold buying fraud forever. Every streamer but Cdew is in the same boat.
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So uh, will I be able to reserve righteous orbs as a tank?
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>>584961963
can you use body mods like this without getting banned?
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>>584961846
>>584961965
i don’t really care about throughput or hps numbers at all its all about gameplay
i’m a bit sad disc isn’t closer to wotlk disc
i think ill miss being able to stealth and cat move speed if i go priest but i also prefer shadow to the druid dps specs. dont care to tank.
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>>584961719
It gives a full reset and restealth, but it also lets you wait out other DRs, and having that 10 seconds to bandage/restealth/wait for Kidney CD is huge
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>>584962132
Probably although you will get some hate.
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>>584962043
CRAB POSTERS: RISE UP!!!!!
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>>584962018
>Warrior needs a healer squad to back him up all times
>Paladin needs to abuse 1 talent to do anything
>Shaman fishes for WF procs and is useless otherwise
Why is melee so shafted
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>>584962132
the first drop yes, all no
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>>584962152
yes
https://files.catbox.moe/8p25rt.mp4
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>>584961085
No. Warlocks have won tons of 1v1 tournaments in the past and they're always the least played class. Most people don't care that much about 1v1 PvP.
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>>584962056
what will the chinese client do about the archimonde skeleton?
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>>584962280
Wow's never had a giant enemy crab boss, notice that?
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>>584962340
They didn't change the kodo graveyard in the chinese client, same idea.
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It's still 2-0 Savox needs to stop runing from jerome
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>>584962094
Yeah it started today.
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ok guys hit level 30, I am going to mount hyal to look at the tree and shit......
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>>584962043
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>>584962204
Disc priests' gimmick of being bubble-focused is kinda lame, I agree, but if the devs put in a Brutallus-like fight where a boss hits really fucking hard, then a disc priest might end up being mandatory for raids (also gives PI, which is great)
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>>584961476
>or just remove it
Mage would unironically be way more fun if they removed ice lance and FoF so that mage could be more than a proc fishing utility bot. Make mages casted spells actually do damage again.
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What a stupid fucking tournament. What was with everyone summoning pets? That was cringe. Classic you would never have endless 15 minute druid vs priest duels. That was bullshit.
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>>584961863
He's a bitter joyless cunt who seethes and rages over nothing the only difference this time is he has reason to be upset.
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>>584962306
is there a body slider or just pure bimbo proportions?
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>>584962043
Toxoplasmosis is a terrible thing.
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>>584962471
Tauren resto druid.
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You guys agree that some of the best moments in dungeons you can ever have is those "oh shit we're all going to die if we don't execute this perfectly" and then you all just harden up at that moment and kick some ass so you get to live?
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>>584962665
body slider isn't possible on a technical level
just gotta deal with what the modders personal taste is
I'm sure others will put out other mods
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>>584961851
>>584962018
Why is Holy so bad?
Because Shockadin is pushed hard?
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>>584962306
How do I do it? Can I also use it to make all skelfs not blue?
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>>584962565
i like being a bubble priest! i like absorb based healers!! in ffxiv i played scholar because you could put massive shields on the raid i think its cool!
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>>584962389
Rokmar the Crackler from TBC - Slave Pens, probably the closest.
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>>584962471
White Male Human Paladin
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>>584962716
This is why I played mage, but they made it so druid is better at this.
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>Tips leaks that Snutz was banned for RMT
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2904308897?t=10h15m46s
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THESE GENERALS AND THREADS
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>>584961684
Here's how PvP is going to go for 99% of warlock players.

> get opened on from stealth by a rogue or feral
> usually when already at 50% health
> die
> run back to corpse
> die repeatedly to same player/group because warlocks have no mobility and need to put 5 buffs on and summon their pet before they can do anything

This 1v1 tournament changes nothing.
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>>584962785
gotta use some krauts launcher and discord
https://latua.io/

if you mean removing blue skintones from skyborne, yeah that's technically possible
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>>584962710
nah, it's just another polfaggot mass psychosis
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>>584961348
0 unless you start your own guild
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>>584962716
Absolutely. You know you're with like-minded people that you should join the guild of / make a guild with depending on how many of you immediately type /p "Not even close."
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>>584962716
I'm roaching out.
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post-tourny duel party in the crater is pretty fun, gms summoning hoggers and killing pikas
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wait what? warlockguy didn't even win? from reading the thread that was my impression
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>>584962843
damage control
shitsout let snutz into the tournament after the deadline
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Fuck me is it insufferable to level up as a Mage, i can't even pulll more than one mob my level unless i want to get brutally raped
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>>584962716
What do you want me to do for you?
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>>584962994
Sodapoppin won because he gets to spend tonight in the cage.
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>>584962824
I'm glad you're happy, anon-kun!
but you should also try out holy, having a different heal for any sort of scenario is fun and rewarding :)
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>GM's spawning shit
soul has returned
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>>584962716
It should never get to this point. And to prevent it from even being that point you need dps who know how to kill
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>>584963016
sister......your polymorph.........stop making us look bad...
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>>584962757
Its got throughput and mana issues. The mana part may well be because Holy needs a good amount of crit for its longevity to come online. But its throughput issue is because HL and FoL heal for garbage.
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>>584962734
unfortunate, it looks nice enough but I hate the hyper exaggerated proportions
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>>584961542
he went live and gave all of his consumes and gold away. use your brain for a moment instead of listening to the biggest wow grifter on twitch
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>>584962994
He won.
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>>584962843
does cheating not instantly end a pro's career?
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I thought this was a 1v1 pvp duel tournament, what the shit is this? Blizzard's trolling.
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>>584962896
how'd Alex do in the 1v1 tourney?
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OH SHIT THEY DROPPED HOGGER ITS OVER
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>>584963016
Mage leveling is safe but super boring. At higher levels you could AoE farm but now you can't so it's back to suffering.
>>584963160
You still can only fight one mob at a time.
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>>584963243
wow is not an esport, it's just a degenerate streamertainment cabal
if you cheated in dota or something then yes, it would end your career
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>>584963070
Seemed fun as soon as the tournament was over the GMs spawned a band stage with an in game band for a concert.
>>584963269
Based. A level ?? boss version of hogger to spawn for shitposting would be super fun.
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>>584963331
he said PULL more than one mob
also if you think you're unable to aoe farm at all just reroll stop playing my class
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I've never played Druid before, is it normal that bear form just misses constantly? Everything takes forever to kill with it because 1/4 attacks miss, even at max weapon skill.
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>>584961863
Grinded out bis and consumables just to get eliminated by warlockchad like everyone else
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>>584963243
Not if you have the right connections.

Streamniggers were taking victory laps and bragging about buying gols and their minions buying them gold and funneling mats bought with rmt'd gold. They basically dared Blizzard to do anything about it, right after Aggrend's big "rmt bad" post.

Most of them got away with it. The few that didnt got gentle taps on the wrist. Snutz is the only one that faced a legitimate punishment but he had Tips help him cover it up until tonight because the knowledge that Snutz got murdered for it would've cast suspicion over all the participants.
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Gms being present makes me have hope
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>>584963331
you can definitely still aoe farm, it's just somewhat less braindead
there are tons of good ways to aoe farm
AE + coc + nova is all you need
dumbass larping parrot retard
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>>584963439
>is it normal that bear form just misses constantly?
Yes.
It gets better once you get primal bite.
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>>584963439
Ferals have their own combat skill. Also its pretty normal when you start yeah, you have super slow attack speed so it feels a lot worse when you miss.
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>>584963490
they were there all along, they likely fell asleep during the priest/druid duels and and woke up recently
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>>584962836
yea with improved Blizzard you save lives man....
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>>584963598
is that new? i think remember druids automatically having full combat skill in cat/bear.
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is everyone going to be playing warlock now that they won the tournament?
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>hibernate hunter pet (20 seconds btw)
>breaks on the first heartbeat
and that's a reroll
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>>584963051
holy looks enticing too i like the idea of pom and litany. binding heal looks fun too but disc can grab that if they want. just wish they actually gave us an absorb raid healing disc
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>>584963671
Yeah its new.
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>>584963598
>Ferals have their own combat skill
Yeah, that's what I meant. It's capped and I'm still missing multiple attacks in a row regularly.
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>>584963676
Hard to say, but probably not. There are a lot of noobs baseding about the tournament on 4chen/reddit, but endgame I think it's still gonna mostly be wowfags who know what class they wanna play, and know that a dumbass low level duel tournament is not important.
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>>584963160
let me polymorph that welp that showed up out of nowhere while i was fighting this condor real quick
oh wait
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>>584963676
No.
Warlock is very boring to play and fomotards will drop it before reaching level 40.
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>>584963676
There will be a short term surge, and then people will remember why they don't play warlock. Everyone already knows it's the s-tier pvp class.
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>>584963380
>A level ?? boss version of hogger
Have you never done a lvl 1 raid? Hogger is the end game for many.
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Anyone got the current class population/distribution?
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>>584963416
>>584963509
>loser mage melty
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>>584963676
warlock won the classic beta duel tourny and was still one of the least played classes then, it turns out being good in 1v1 is really not important at all in this game
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>>584963849
if a dragonkin spawns literally on top of you then nova the bird, sheep it, and bee line it away from the whelp
but you just had to finish the condor right?
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>>584963913
You arent going to get an accurate one, they're all ai jeet coded slop.
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>>584963439
learn to abuse mobs 3 levels below you and you will feel much better, same goes for every melee class
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>>584962716
in wrath i remember i was tanking utgarde pinnacle and our healer died during the gauntlet. we had a dps priest and i was like "priest heal me" and she was like "uh i'm shadow" and i'm like "heal me or we wipe"
and she did and we just barely clutched the encounter, and the blue drake dropped and she won the roll. i wish i won it but felt it was kind of fitting.
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>>584963968
Unless you play warrior, then you can't even run away from those 1v1s
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>>584964041
>she
k
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>>584963971
you just proved me why its a pain in the ass to level the class in the first place
also, mana, and other random spawns around, the only option is to reset
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>>584964041
why didnt you fuck her afterwards?
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>>584964041
>i wish i won it but felt it was kind of fitting.
What a horrible cuck mentality.
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>>584963676
being good at static 1v1s means so fucking little
I rolled warlock in classic and got into the top premade on my server, we were beating premades from rank 1 people like cpt and yesmaster and soda, and guess what my job was on that premade?

to sit at fucking farm all game, and use bronze spyglass to call out incs on discord while making sure nobody ninjaed farm
being god in 1v1s is actually a curse in high level pvp, not a blessing, and I mean this seriously
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>>584964179
if you are getting fucked by random spawns you are playing badly or unaware
fighting 2 mobs at once should be extremely rare unless you want them
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>>584964018
This isn't accurate at all?
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Which forever pvp faction will have the coolest community
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>>584964286
RP Horde
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>>584964286
RP Horde
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>>584964286
Alliance, you have Esfand, Xaryu and Shobek to keep the vibes up in chat.
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Still the best moment of the tournament.
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>>584964179
nobody can be casually fucking around redridge whelp spawns unless you're a rogue with kick
this is not a representative sample of the mage experience
yes, if a fucking DRAGONKIN that shoots fireballs at range is one of your two mobs, you have to reset. if you're fighting two humanoids you're always fine
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>>584961430
How insecure are you that you think that was the point of my post you giant niggerfaggot? I specifically noted aesthetics not playstyle
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Everyone whisper the warlock contestants asking for summons
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>>584964169
males don't play priest
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>>584960954
I hate magic in fromsoft games, but it's fine in wow.
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>>584964248
Is it usually warlocks that sit at farm? I thought most teams used mages or rogues for that.
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>>584964421
I played a male human priest on a RP server and used to give out sermons in the cathedral.
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Honestly, what the fuck is the point of a lvl 30 tourney with rules anyway? It’d be alot more fun to watch if literally anything that wasn’t straight up cheating / hacking was allowed. What we got was just 95% consumables 5% fear
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>>584964350
p-pump it up, right..?
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>>584964370
what is this man's disability?
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warlockguy dueling pika
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>>584960954
Playing warrior would be the closest thing to fromsoft gameplay. Make sure you roll on pvp for the full experience.
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what class do i play to make the girls wet af bros?
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what do we think about this
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>>584964512
soul
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>>584964529
>Honestly, what the fuck is the point of a lvl 30 tourney with rules anyway?
to sell leveling guides
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Its already begun
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>>584964475
any pet based class is good since you can spin whether you or the pet is cc'd
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>>584964602
human male retribution paladin with helmet on
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>>584964475
Most premades use a Warlock or Hunter to sit farm

Our premade sent Mages to LM, then they'd slowfall to BS and nova or imp blizzard reinforcements on the alliance triangle headed to BS
We only had one rogue, and he went mine into stables, but if he knew it was a warlock/hunter on stabs, he'd go to BS instead
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>>584964639
Stay there
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>>584964639
1 v 1 is a stupid anyway 2 v 2 should be the format at least since classes can patch up each other weakness
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>>584964248
>use bronze spyglass to call out incs
use bronze spyglass to call out incs
soul!
>disc*rd
soulless
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>>584964169
depends what year it was, if it was pre 2015 then its likely it was a XX, and not XY pretending to be XX
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>>584964738
the scriptcraft vanilla 2v2 tournament was pure, unadulterated kino
3v3 is also great, though, the 3v3 CDL tourney was dank
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>>584964273
Agree normally but the hyper spawn rate on beta for those first couple areas (caves usually) with red mobs were crazy. Def died a couple times, they spawned as soon as I killed them and I was solo, not in a group so no help. Also, a new change was a person ran away being chased by 5 mobs, and when they disengage from the person they used to go back to their spot and start over. NOW, if they see another hostile on the way back to their spot they'll start attacking you like you fucked their day up to begin with. Very black person coded way of programming enemy NPCs.
>Dat white nigga hit me so I'ma hit him back. Sheiiit, dat cracka got away I'mma head back to my crib. But if I see any wypipo on the the way doe they gon' get it
It made me think HC would suck, but I realized that HC will have normal spawn times and the hyper spawns were just for beta/launch.
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>>584964639
Yes. Good.

Soul link back to 31. Sl/Sl forever out of reach. Soul link to 10%, no damage buff.

Fuck lockniggers
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>>584964649
>>584964681
Hmm, maybe I should play mage. I want to play a caster but really don't want to sit at a single cap all game.
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>>584964248
this is why I never actually roll warlock despite wanting to so badly
the larger your group is, the shittier you feel as the 1v1 king, and this is a group game
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>>584964636
Gameplay wise it feels that way for sure. But Shockadin seems like it’d be kinda close to a Str-faith sunbro
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bro, i just ran into that Empire fucking guild near Tirisfal they were attacking Undercity, are these fucks gonna ruin a Forever server too? what do they roll on release, PvP Alliance? fuck
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>>584961863
His gf pegged his prostate so hard his dick stopped working
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Is anyone here switching to warlock now because of the tournament? Even 1 person?
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>>584962961
>how many of you immediately type /p "Not even close."
i'm the only one that ever does
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>winner is undead
Hey i thought you guys said that orc was the way to go and would make warlock unplayable for alliance players?
>>584965117
Everyone knew a warlock would win already
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>>584965074
Honestly that's the dream tbqh
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>>584965117
dude everyone has known warlock is the best classic class for centuries. still doesn't stop nobody wanting to play it
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>>584965184
>why is the undead the winnter against a Fear oriented class with the same Fear oriented class?
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>>584965281
this man goons
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>>584961963
sauce
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>>584965117
not really most people do not care about the 1 v 1 autism simulator, the game was not made for this
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>>584964278
What site is this?
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>>584965184
People baseding about the orc curse thing was funny. It's a pretty minor racial. Ooooohh no orcy removed my curse of agony? lol
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>>584965347
the gooner mod discord
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>>584964350
I'd normally never consider joining a streamers guild but joining Shobeks elf only guild seems pretty cool. I've always wanted to be in a race or class only guild.
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nerf druids
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>>584961824
rot classes require slow and steady mindset

no epic windfury procs
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>>584965458
You could also join Xarbear's gnome only guild, it's poggies.
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>>584964278
From my experience there weren't as many warriors.
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>>584965058
If it makes you feel any better, they completely suck at WoW outside of stacking mages and zerging people in wpvp
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>>584965184
They ruined that orc racial so its basically useless.
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>>584962471
female human warlock
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>>584964639
They don't even know how fucked 1v1 balance is. These people are gonna shit themselves when a shadow priest breaks them in half at 60.
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>>584965074
No self respecting man is giving up their masculinity to get pegged and made to cum by Veibae railing their ass.
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>>584964278
anon (absent-mindedly) thought including level 1 characters would be a good idea
this is the level 30 pop
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Alexensual owns you.
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>>584964550
Meth
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>>584965674
Seems believable.
Caster dps are always the least popular.
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>>584965674
God I hope mages are really this rare on release, as a mage enjoyer.
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wtf is wrong with him
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>>584965058
Just layer hop
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>>584964614
Both are fine, but they should obviously try to emulate the vanilla one more
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>>584965184
Orc is better verses alliance in battlegrounds and world PvP. UD is better verses horde for dueling.
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>>584964370
Funniest part was him making a YT short video of the top 3 crashouts of the tournament and he featured himself in it
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>>584965674
the hilarious part is how dwarf shaman doesnt contribute at all to the %, alliance is fucked
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>>584965670
h-haha so true who would go through with that...
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How many levelling guides does nipsout need to sell for this shit-ran and moderated tournament to have been a good investment, he only has to recuperate 50k himself right so that’s like… 4000 guides?
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>>584965767
same. the imp blizzard nerf really mindbroke people and that's a good thing
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>>584965674
I'm definitely not seeing that many shamans around. Paladins and hunters are everywhere.
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>>584965787
adderall
t. addy enjoyer
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>>584964639
>0 updoots
Why are you even bothering to post this?
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skyborne is giga bis dps for mage so you need to be alliance for mage
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>>584965117
I think I'm going to play mage because I bet arcane and fire will blow people with gear at 60. Mages have always sucked at 30, especially arcane, but it was already looking extremely promising.
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>>584965767
mages are terrible, as they should be, and you would be an idiot to consider playing one.
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>>584965184
its almost like orcs got mega nerfed or something right before the tournament
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>>584965885
are you alliance? shamans go from #2 on horde to #6 on ally
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>>584965787
hes a drug addict.
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>>584965954
based on what? they look pretty good to me
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>>584965749
I wonder why...... having to take a drink break after every mob group while rogues and warriors need no break at all feels stupid
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>>584965954
t. butthurt woyer
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>584965675
Feels good man!!!
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>>584966027
warlocks have easy sustain
mages make up for it with good damage and aoe
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>>584965657
its actually crazy they lowered dp cooldown and kept the healing, aswell as giving VE 100% uptime if they cant remove it, even before both of these spriest was going to fuck
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>>584966082
kino
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why don't people play warlocks?
what's wrong with them?
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I wanna play shaman but I don't want to be called a cuck buff bot.
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>>584965445
hint plox
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>>584965951
The 30 duel meta and the 60 battleground and world PvP meta are drastically different. Mages and hunters are good at both even though they didn't do well in the tournament.
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>>584966175
stupid people really hate soul shards(theyre a nothingburger to farm)
and dont parse as much as warriors or mages in classic
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>>584965951
> I'm going to play mage because I bet arcane and fire will blow people with gear at 60.
You heard this shit bros? Arcane and Fire mages are going to be sucking dick on the regular at level 60.
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>>584965674
>hunter
white
>rogue
brown
>shaman
brown
>warrior
white
>druid
brown
>paladin
white
>priest
brown
>mage
white
>warlock
brown
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hype feels kinda dead ngl. why don't we just play monsters & memories instead?

https://youtu.be/9R_tja0lu08
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>>584966182
you're why this game sucks ass now
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>>584966246
>>584962938
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>>584966291
I'm the issue, not the people calling me names?
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>>584966175
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>>584966182
imagine her long tongue invading your asshole...
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>>584966175
you're in a dungeon, the next pack has 3 elites (not a lot)
from the instant the pull starts, you are now in debt by 6 gcds before you can do anything else as you have to put up corruption and agony on all three
now you have like 1-2 seconds at most to do something else before it's time to start reapplying dots
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>>584966387
Not relevant to what I said.
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What’s it about these streamers and looking grotesque? Xaryu looks like he would break if someone punches him in this nearly non-existent chin. Soda looks like a slob

But the 4 worst ones are
Esfand - wtf is up with his face
Venruki - looks like a fucking ghoul. He’s close to asmongold in appearance but i feel like asmon at least has some blood in his veins even tho he too looks weird, like a cancer patient who’s not quite dying yet but it’s definitely taking a toll
Jerome - what the fuck, is that. Everything about his appearance is fucking revolting, his voice is grating as fuck. His facial/hair looks disgusting too. Whenever i see Jerome i immediately, unconsciously do pic related
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>>584966027
I always thought it was silly how mages complain about drink breaks when warriors need food breaks all the same
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>>584966151
>warlocks have easy sustain
Don't healers get annoyed at having to heal you constantly?
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>>584966387
gay nigger
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>>584966343
I like how absolutely 60IQ retards think having a pet is a bad thing and you gotta babysit it

it brings insane utility to every single scenario in the game and brainlets cant comprehend that
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>>584966281
nah
priest/mage/warlock/rogue are white
paladin/warrior are brown
hunter/sham could go either way
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>>584959639
TLDR
everyone thought priests would dominate, they all got eliminated immediately, Warlocks and Shamans stomped everyone
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>>584966175
>because fearing someone is god tier in 1v1 dangerous in dungeons and a deathscentence in raids
>dots feel bad when mobds die quick
>mages have better direct damage tools
>your demons are not as cool as hunter pets

in short hunter is the cooler pet class and mage is the better direct damage caster
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>>584966175
They are "good" in pvp, but not as good as people think. They have no mobility or escape and get raped hard by multiple opponents, which often happens. If you're playing on a pvp server and getting ganked/camped, warlock has very little to help them. They also get mowed down from range in bgs by multiple hunters/mages/whatever. In premades they are usually in the farm/flagroom cuck shed. So while they are 1v1 gods, they are actually a rather cucked class in pvp on the whole.

For raiding, in vanilla they were worse mages who also had to summon, which is somewhat onerous. They could be pretty fun for raiding in forever though, if you like to blast. There are lots of possible specs.

They are fun for solo play or leveling, if you like their playstyle. A lot of people probably don't though as multidotting requires slightly more brainpower than most classes. They are amazing at soloing elites and solo farming dungeons. Personally I love that stuff.

Generally people don't like being a summon bitch.
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>>584966469
venruki is the worst. i can't stand that faggot
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>>584966485
You normally just ignore warlocks as a healer.
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>>584966182
damn pirates sister got some tongue
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>>584966082
>it's real
>ETC playing live
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>Xaryu looks like he would break if someone punches him
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>>584966485
the opposite, healers love warlocks because it lets them pad their healing meters

everyone talks about DPS parsing but healing parsers are even more autistic and insane than DPS ones
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>>584966280
Blue High Order Skyborne Arcane Mage desperately blowing her raid leader to keep her raid spot.
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>try orc mage
>left hand casting
dropped
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>>584966485
What, are you talking about dungeons? Just manage your mana and drink ASAP when combat ends. That's the main problem retards have as mage/warlock in dungeons, they blow their mana on useless shit and then finger their asshole for 8 seconds after combat stops.
Non-dogshit healers will pump you if you lifetap but that won't always happen.
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>>584966580
There's a vendor that sells free soul shards, so warlocks are summoning everybody
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>>584966501
I don't want to micromanage I want to smash things with hammer
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>>584966485
renew and ignore and they are fine
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>>584966660
is there music playing there?
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>>584966534
They might not even be the 1v1 big dicks anymore. Spriest looks absolutely fucking disgusting right now.
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>>584966684
and thats why you win no duels and do no dmg
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>>584966647
southpaws have higher IQ on average, and being left-handed is a primarily male trait (like autism)

cope and seethe, dextroid
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>>584966280
catbox left
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>>584966596
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>>584966182
Only 4channers are gonna call you that shit. The people you party with are gonna be like "oh sweet, totems (that I don't personally have to manage)." and welcome your contributions because unlike the mythical S-tier, bot-played hypothetical, you actually exist and are in the party.
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>>584966580
>not a single alliance player
lmao
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>>584966723
Yes, Power of the Horde on repeat
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>>584965932
elaborate, theyre all shit
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>>584966343
>retail fixed all of this
volumes
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>>584966767
Brown Steve Buscemi
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>>584966767
looks like he's wearing an office miniskirt and heels
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>>584965932
I agree it looks good. People underestimate the regen thing, on top of 3% haste.
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>>584966330
yes because of what >>584966771 said. its 90% shitposting on 4chan. actual players will suck your dick just to have you in their raid
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>>584966802
alli skyborne mana talent is completely busted
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>>584966807
They are still really unpopular in retail anyways
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>be me
>level 60 tauren hunter
>camping on a hill in stranglethorn vale
>see male human warrior
>let him pass
>see male dwarf shaman
>let him pass
>see female gnome priest
>let her pass
>see male gnome warlock
>go time
>pop sniper shot from 51 yards away
>evaporate 60% of his life, he doesn't even know where it came from
>walk 2 steps forward and hit concussive shot
>get the stun
>pop the remainder of his health with an aimed shot
>vanish into the treeline, await my next victim
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>>584966807
is that why it died?
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>>584965932
lol racials
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>>584966501
at least half of that has gotta be from people that dont know you can macro petattack and hotkey it
by level 20 it becomes second nature
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>>584966765
wdym
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>>584965637
Furry content is strictly prohibited here.

Furry content includes, but is not limited to:
>Posting screenshots that depict Worgen, Pandaren, Tauren, Vulpera, Sethrak or Dracthyr characters
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>Posting screenshots of characters or NPCs where Worgen, Pandaren, Tauren, Vulpera, Sethrak or Dracthyr are visible in the background.

Remember to follow the rules and respect /wowfg/'s culture.
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>>584966767
>that sissy posture
LOCKED
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>>584966660

Does /who show how many are up there?
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>>584966901
>continues to make expansions
is this the died i hearing so much abouted?
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>>584966485
This varies by, and I am sincere here, how the tank's performance is going. If the tank has their role under control, regardless of speed, then tossing some management heal on the warlock is a non-issue and keeps me from being bored. If the tank is having a bad time and their HP bar and my MP bar are humping the 40% marker, then seeing the warlock self-inflict to sub-30% isn't my concern.
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>>584967014
I guess you're unaware that /who only shows you 50 people at a time
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>>584966997
Bro he has a family and creampies his wife daily ...
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>>584966767
>>584966816
>>584966874
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>>584966596
Angles and low bodyfat will make people look a lot stronger than they are. Plus he’s a midget so he’ll look more muscular than he is, and in that pic he’s small btw
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>>584967021
If I'm not interested in it, it's dead.
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>>584966767
>>584967183
he'd fuck you up
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We have found the perfect raid comp btw:

>1 tank druid
>1 healing shaman
>2 healing Druids
>36 fury warriors

standing outside the instance to rebuff their 1hr buffs:
>a couple Paladins
>1 priest
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>>584966898
This but I'm a Night Elf priest standing by a cliff.
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>Xaryu vs Alexensual
Which midget would win?
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Why are Europeans such faggots? Not necessarily gay. Just kind of uppity, no sense of wonder and just generally devoid of life?
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>>584967309
>walk into instance with pally and priest buffs
>they immediately drop
frickin genius! someone promote this man to raid leader
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>>584967309
>flying boss that only descends at 50% hp appears
sorry brownie :^)
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>>584967373
>they immediately drop
buffs don't drop when you zone into and instance
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>>584967351
alex is more jacked but I think xaryu is actually decently fit in a non-gymfaggot way, alex would probably squeal like a piggy and collapse after a few minutes of squabblin'
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>>584967371
theyre soulless beings

as soon as warlockguy brought up having to recently put his dog down they were all mocking his ass
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>>584967309
Why not 2 shamans retard?
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>>584967506
only need 1 wf totem, the other gay totems are worth less than 1 warchad
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>>584967373
only world buff gets dropped, you can campfire
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what do i make my gf play (i'm going pally).
she says she wants to do warlock because it's a pet class. i would never do a lock bc i don't want to be a summon bitch.
do i just keep my mouth shut and have her play what she wants?
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>>584967485
Well the replacement europoors are Muslim and they hate dogs so it makes sense.
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>>584967371
all the best of them slaughtered each other and then did it again in even greater numbers 20 years later
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>>584967587
It's not true..
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>Why are Europeans such faggots? Not necessarily gay. Just kind of uppity, no sense of wonder and just generally devoid of life?
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>>584966182
Yo Larry looking kinda cute tho
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>>584967309
need 1 hunter for tranq
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>>584967014
How come alliance didn't get anything like this in the beta?
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>>584967660
>indirect woman reply
that anon might have a point
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imagine thinking being able to summon is a bad thing
enjoy waiting for the 1-2 slow retards to travel 5 zones every time you join a dungeon group
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>>584967597
yeah, she will be useful for summoning at least
although it's easy to do terrible dps as a warlock if you're retarded, and women are often retarded
but the game is easy anyway
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>>584967309
>36 hybrids designed to do less damage than Rogues
Stupid?
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which one is jerome tweaking on
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>>584967240
I bench higher than he deadlifts
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>>584967597
getting to summon friends is the least of warlock's problems desu
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>>584966387
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>>584967728
except the retards see theres a warlock and dont move so its just the warlock sitting at the dungeon entrance by himself
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>>584967760
a cocktail of all 3 for maximum drug infused enlightenment
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>>584967728
>Start my own group
>Kick anyone not already in the zone
It's just that simple
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>>584967385
x36, easy as fuck
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>>584967921
works fine if you're heals or a tank, sure
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rolling paladin cuz prot and shockadin seem like they could be fun. But i cant make up my mind around
>undead pala
Yes yes i know overplayed oversaturated but most of them will be ret-ards anyways. But undead pala is fucking dope thematically and Tirisfal-silverpine-hillsbrad is the only good questing to be done 1-30 idc what duskwood fags claim
OR the superior white man that is human paladin
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if hunter has a melee spec warrior should have a range spec
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>>584967784
Nobody asked for your pic faggot.
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>>584967876
>member joins group
>/p no summons btw, you'll have to walk
damn, that was hard
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>>584967309
>2 healing druids
>giving up 3%
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>>584967965
I don't think I could play a class that is unable to tank for this reason.
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>>584967987
Rogue should've gotten a thrown weapon spec.
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what if I pick the wrong class?
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For me it’s the struggle between Melee Hunter, Arms War and Shockadin. It pretty much comes down to wanting that polearm gameplay, and being able to tank is a good way to farm too.

I’ll probably level all 3 at some point, it’s forever right. But I’m so torn between the 3 cuz they all seem like they could be a really fun time
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>>584967987
no can do, we could give them a heal spec though to better fit in with their hybrid status
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>>584967987
sir it is a melee *adjacent* spec, it would not be in the spirit of classic to make hunter melee
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>>584968139
you have two weeks to figure out how not to do that
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>>584968170
hunters can already heal. they are hybrids.
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>warlock guy said if you don't care about dueling and just care about battlegrounds you still go undead if you're playing sl/sl because touch of the grave is so good
>for destro troll or orc is better
Is touch of the grave really that good? I didn't think it was really that good and then it got nerfed. Can someone that knows this class better explain please?
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So when will I be unable to tank dungeons anymore as shaman? 50? 60?
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Rogues are scissors.

Warriors are rock.

Hunters, Paladins, Priests, Druids, Mages, and Shamans are paper.

Warlocks are mushrooms.

Paper beats Rock.
Scissors beat Paper.
Scissors also happen to beat Rock, until at which point Rock hits 60 and becomes an unstoppable killing machine and also kills Paper.
And would beat Scissors, but cannot find Scissors because Scissors is invisible.

So Scissors beat Paper and avoid Rock, and that is called Balance.
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>>584968139
Just pick the right class, silly
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>>584966281
TANK: WHITE
DPS: BROWN OR TRANS
HEALER: FEMALE OR TRANS
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>>584968225
Touch of the grave triggering from your pets makes zero sense.
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>>584968225
if the fight lasts longer than the internal cooldown of touch of the grave, it is better
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>>584967464
Correct. They drop when a boss is pulled.
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>>584967974
i think it's hilarious to be a rotting corpse with no jaw being in beautiful holy armor as a champion of the light.
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>>584968139
You will have to rely on your personal performance and personality to secure your future.
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>>584967974
Human paladin is also overplayed. Might as well be the new thingy.
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>>584968351
horde pvp sets look different thoughever
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>>584968254
good times
https://youtu.be/Ac9rZHiB5n4?t=205
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forever = white and straight
retail = brown and tranny
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>>584968490
What about era?
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>>584968543
dead
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>>584968543
>>584968490
pservers = brown and straight
era = white and tranny
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>>584968490
forever is brown and tranny
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>>584968543
stale vnd lefty
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>>584968408
Yeah but the main pull of alliance is to NOT be with all the browns and lgtb
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Is shockadin actually going to have competitive dps or is it just a beta meme
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I'm the defeatslut that deleted my characters after losing in pvp last thread
but now I have no character to play..
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>>584968806
Become a resourceslave for me
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>>584968747
You're either playing with trannies with agp fetish rolling human and NE women or you're playing with dindus and their supporters + a dash of furry. There's no escaping them either way in the year of 2026.
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>>584968806
did you compete in the tournament?
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>>584968798
i predict people (and me) will have a screamy melty if we have to play twistadin.
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>>584968798
who knows, everything is being changed every week and we need to see how our end game 60 gear is actually designed plus their tier set bonuses.
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>>584968798
its not even good in the beta, no it will be garbage, and if it does end up with gear that makes it good it wil be nerfed to oblivion
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>>584969002
Why couldn't we just get divine storm instead of memetwist...
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>>584968747
Wait, horde is the RGB?
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>>584968909
doing what and where?
>>584968997
no, I was ganking in redridge and failed miserably
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>>584968225
>>584968321
>>584968343
I still don't see how UD is better than orc in general. WoTF is actually not that useful because alliance warlocks are not common and priests will likely be busy fearing melee. 20% stun reduction seems much more likely to have value. When it comes to extra damage a constant 1% crit chance and a nice little spell damage boost every 3 minutes is pretty decent. Also 10% damage reduction against mages and whatnot is decent too. UD have underwater breathing and cannibalism which are both not very valuable in PvP. Is the winner of the big tournament just wrong or am I just stupid?
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They should add talent points at the top of the tree that go in between two specs that act as adding points to both specs.
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>>584969162
who fucking cares? are you really playing bgs?
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>>584969120
oops I meant stonetalon. I'd never play horde
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>>584968806
>>584969120

And not even any instaloss RP logs of the townsfolk getting revenge?
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>>584969038
Would still play it over shitty twist
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>>584969120
Collection herbs and ores and gold and then trading it to me.
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>>584969235
>are you really playing bgs
I plan to grind to rank 14 so yes I'll be doing a lot of bgs.
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can you not just macro twist?
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>>584969250
I messaged the orc hunter who I tried to gank and he barely said anything, he didn't care...
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>>584969162
You realize the loser of the tournament played UD warlock too, right? He only had the Orc model because of the new deviate.

Also, Will helps vs Warrs, too, you know.
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>>584960954
>but i think magic is gay as fuck and if you beat any fromsoft game as a caster you didn’t actually beat it
I bet you used sloth in nioh
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Can you trade between your characters if they are on different rulesets?
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Help

White straight non-blue not necessarily republican cuz not a christcuck or corpo worshipper, but not blue for sure, can’t stand any -oids at all.

Either Human Warrior/Pala/Survival Hunter
Or
Undead War/Pal(not ret)
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what's the best rogue race for ganking low level questers?
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>>584969427
No longer horde property..
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>>584969351
No, you cannot. You cannot totem twist anymore, either. The buff grace period is gone.
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>>584969504
Nope
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How bad are Warlock nerfs gonna be because of Sodapoppin?
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>>584969527
Orc with a pirate transmog and just sitting on the Menethil-Southshore-Teldrassil boat all day long. You’ll catch lvl 1-40s so very wide pool
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>>584969518
Paladin. Aggrend is going to make sure they're top tier. He can't help himself.
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>>584969518
Say no more
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>>584969652
Captain Greenskin
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>>584969538
damn that's me am I that transparent?
but no, I'll just have to lose to someone better and thirstier next time.
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>>584969681
Kek
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>>584969518
>Warrior
Brown
>Paladin
Pink

Therefore, I'm going Hunter.
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>>584969627
Have you never played WoW before? Warlock is never bad. If they are, Blizzard fixes it immediately.
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>>584969809
warlock was bad for a long time in vanilla wow until they caught some buffs near the end
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>>584969729
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>>584969681
Damn. The dark souls lover in me (not the same guy as above) thinks undead would be kino aesthetics and RoL is the only good dungeon they’ve added. But i think you’re right

That said you did not include class, that can be either pal or war
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>>584969729
You just want to be humiliated?
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>>584969527
Undead since you can eat their corpse.
Though if you want a tip from someone who played wow just to do that I cannot recommend druid enough over rogue. Druid has more funny ways to kill them like with roots or moon fires, coming out of stealth ontop of them and hitting them with your big hammer, you're faster in general because of cat form, you can swim in the redridge lake in your travel form, ect.
But the most important thing BY FAR about druid is they have access to track humanoid which lets you see everyone on the map around you so you can find and kill low levels you otherwise would have missed.
Also on Forever, all elfs speak darnassian even the sky elfs on the horde so if you play as an elf you can shit talk them too.
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>>584969887
based
>>584969924
is that so wrong?
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>>584965117
it looked boring as hell, fear, eat/drink, fear
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What class won the tourney
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>>584969963
No, it's not so bad. Honestly it's easy mode because you can just be an annoying faggot and people will instantly give you attention and call you an annoying faggot.
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>>584970063
AffliLock
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>>584970063
Warlock. Was a warlock vs warlock final.
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>>584970063
rerolling chud?
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>>584969087
>do you want a unique extremely high burst casino mechanic
>nah i just want piss whirlwind
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now that horde racials were nerfed bigly, what's the S tier hunter race? is it human or nelf? for pvp especially
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>>584969937
true, rogue feels kinda slow without shadowstep
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>>584970154
probably human, NE is just cooler
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>>584970207
Druids also get the feral pounce so cats have the bootleg shadowstep now. It doesnt work in stealth though.
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>>584970154
None of the pvp Horde racials got touched. War Stomp even got BUFFED.

and no, before you retards mention Curse Break, Hardiness has always been the Orc pvp racial.
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>>584970063
/our guy/ nientonsoh won!
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Earlier today Pikaboo was wondering if he should roll Horde or Alliance and like 95% of his chat was saying Horde
Seems like it’s only here and some redditors who love Alliance so much
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>>584970323
>None of the pvp Horde racials got touched
lol
>Hardiness has always been the Orc pvp racial
its not vanillas hardiness, it was nerfed
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>$300 set aside for DUDEWEED
>$400 set aside for food delivery
>month of PTO banked
yeah i'm ready to play a troll shaman
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>>584970328
ally is far more popular
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>>584970278
it works but it breaks stealth
not really a big deal at level 30 since druids dont have pounce or ravage but at later levels that'll suck
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give me one good reason you aren't picking skelf.
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>>584970412
I just remembered I have like half a year of PTO backed up, considering using a couple months up just to nolife forever
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>>584970498
tremendously gay furry retail race
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>>584970391
Orc has had minus stun duration since wrath and they have remained a top tier pvp race throughout every expansion. Anyone who thinks it's bad just because it isn't the vanilla rng version is genuinely retarded.
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made it to winterspring lads
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>>584970498
Their druid models look like shit, also I can't be a skelf shaman on alliance or I would.
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>>584970567
>it was good in this version of the game that's completely different
LMAO
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>>584970498
>1.9s cast just to double your spirit regen for 30s
lol that shit is garbage.
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>>584970657
Forever is completely different bro....
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>>584970419
>beta
>people pick the opposite faction they intend to play on release
horde will be the most popular faction
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What goes on in Goldshire on RP servers?
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>>584970498
They look out of place
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>>584970567
>Orc has had minus stun duration since wrath
it was nerfed, original hardiness is what made them broken in vanilla
>they have remained a top tier pvp race throughout every expansion
you couldn't even bring yourself to lie and say the top tier pvp race, they're now just a top tier pvp race. humans are the better pvp race now.
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>>584970657
Explain how it is somehow magically bad in Forever specifically.
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wtf I just looked at the trouny results how did priests lose Penacne is stil sooooo OP streamers suck at this game they won two (2) duels wtf!!!
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>>584970412
I don't like weed that much, I'm really low functioning stoner.
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>>584970575
Winterspring, my chill beloved... I can't wait for the Lich King Invasion content patch that has the landmass equivalent of Borean Tundra + Wintergrasp + Coldarra + Sholozar Basin detach from Northrend and crash into Winterspring's northeastern mountain range, grinding it beneath ice and connecting to the new Scourge vs Blue Dragonflight 60+ zone (with more Titan Facility advancement)!
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>>584970498
my heart belongs to the plains
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What is the redridge equivalent for horde? I used to be a redridge camper but my buddies are going alliance this time.
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>>584970808
>Every single one is horde
Holy shit Horde racials are broken for PVP
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>>584970859
Stonetalon
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>>584970859
Stone Talon, though the new zone right next to Redridge will also be very good but it will be like a new STV.
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>>584970859
Stonetalon
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>>584970859
PvE-wise, it's Stonetalon, but in all meaningful matters, it's a mixture of Stonetalon's northeastern lake/goblin area and Ashenvale's center+east.
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>>584970859
Obviously it’s Southshore cause horde go there at ~24 and alliance at 32. But if you want to capture the same feel of 1 guy fucking up the entire zone and making you wonder what the fuck a horde player is doing there it’s Stonetalon mountains either as a night elf camping in shadowmeld or a dwarf hunter that’s jumped up on the roofs of SRR or nearby the entrance
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>>584971032
uhhh skelfbros, our response?
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>>584970673
it doubles regen from all sources, including talents for 30seconds its absolutely broken
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>>584967987
Hunters never had, nor never should have a melee spec and SoF shit the bed with the most retarded class design ever.

The satisfaction of hunter is you are a melee and ranged hybrid and interchangeable execute one set of moves and then weave in another.

A warrior charges you, you can load up all of your fat melee shit at once with raptor and a mongoose bite blow all your traps and throw on a wing clip, but at that point you have exhausted your entire melee rotation and all off your ranged is off cooldown, so now it’s time to do anything you can do get the fuck away from them and go back into ranged.

Oppositely fighting a mage or something, you blow all your ranged abilities, but all of your melee is off cd, the guy runs up to you like an idiot trying to dead zone you, but then you actively forfeit ranged and run into him, loading up a raptor, mongoose and wing clip all at once, effectively performing a perfect nuke and they drop dead immediately from half health.
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>>584971065
Soda has explained damn near every stream that Skelves are the only race in the game with zero pvp utility in their racials.
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>>584971065
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>>584970719
>erm, ackshully everyones playing the OPPOSITE of what they really want

holy COPE
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>>584971197
You go twinklust.
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>>584971082
It doesn't. Show me a video if it doubling any other mana or health source that isn't from your spirit regen. You can't, because it doesn't work that way.
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u sure?
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>>584971105
I tried survival in turtle and it was just a garbage mana using warrior with three buttons so I agree on this desu. You should be going in and out of range and using your full kit.
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cant wait for this tournament bullshit to be over so this general can go back to slopping whitemane, sexelves and satyrs
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>>584971317
he'd probably be #1 if he picked a good race
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>>584971065
I could see picking horde skelf if they had the alliance racial as a caster druid but the horde racial is completely useless for a druid.
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>>584971191
Alliance one is great for wpvp for the mana regen.
Walk on air technically has some uses depending on terrain though glider serves the same purpose
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>>584971283
yeah lots of people rolled opposite faction for fun so they don’t burn out before launch
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whats the addon that makes quests and NPCs have voices?

is it voiceover like in classic or is there a new one?
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>>584971441
The goblin glider racial would be a lot cooler if an actual goblin glider didn't exist that any race can use. Engineering cucked them out of their 1 unique racial.
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>>584970412
DUDE you're gonna have a blast
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>>584971495
Theres a new better one called spoken. It also has extra optional stuff like spoken gossip or in game books and cool lore you can see in game describing zones or areas of interest in the zone when you pass it.
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>>584970419
There are a lot more unfriendly autists on horde and groups tend to be more disorganised.
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>>584971495
The AI voiceovers are all pre-recorded (it doesn't do it on the fly), so you're going to need an updated version. I haven't seen a Forever version out though.
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There's actual schizos just talking about charlie kirk and shit on WoW Hardcore right now, is that how it's going to be in Forever?
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>"humans are the best pvp race" mfers when they realize their trinket racial has a gcd in forever
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>>584971398
I 100% picked horde Skelf druid for the glider racial. It's cool that the movement speed racial can be cast while moving now, but I flat out picked Skelf for the glider racial both for exploring / making ledges, and for "FUCK ME FUCKING SHIT HOW DID I MISS THAT JUMP FUCK YOU CHINK ASS TERRAIN" situations. Don't need to remember to make more like with engineering, just always have that button.

Also for aerial drive-by assaults on the unsuspecting.
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>>584971624
More like a massive torrent of zoomer and polchud diarrhea, mixed with some seething trannies
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>>584971673
Absolutely fucking grim.
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>>584967660
Euro's, like Canadians have always had America Derangement Syndrome. It used to be like friends ribbing each other, but unironically since Trump 2016 it turned into a seething hate for all things America even to the point that they vaxxed themselves with at least 2, but up to 8 shots of science juice just to own Trump. The internet has not been the same since.
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>>584971660
>eat a 5 second stun or use a gcd

wow this is a tough choice...
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>>584971604
ye spoken is really good , especially for a cronic non reader like me, feels good actually knowing what is going on
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>>584971723
Well it's just in trade chat, which seems to be megaserver-wide. It's basically unusable except for luls. Zone generals are a mixed bag, there's a different general for each layer. I've seen some turn to shit but others were pretty chill or funny.
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>>584971743
Until this beta I didn't know how much mutts were obsessed with politics.
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>>584971624
it's always either politics or religion
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>>584971743
It's not derangement, we really do hate you because you're fucking retarded and ruin everything. Hope this helps!
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So glad I don't have to deal with the shitted up trade chat after live (ausfag).
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>>584969113
Thank you brave kitty for keeping the LGBTQ at bay for another day.
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>>584971920
>t.
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>>584971385
good news pal, it's over and when warlockguy won he looked directly into the camera and said "you can go back to posting catbox links in /wowfg/ now"
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>>584971891
ye trade chat is always the same 20 shizos, fighting over their politics and believes in the beta of an imaginary world
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>want to actually heal as a paladin for dungeons
>keep being asked to tank
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>>584971624
Better. This is current forever trade chat.
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>>584972279
gpt opus crashing out
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>>584972259
Alliance?
Because there is a healer shortage on horde.
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>>584972337
Yeah.
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>>584972279
horde sisters...
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>>584972376
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>>584972279
I can tell this is horde PvE. It was already a cesspool when I uninstalled
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>>584971663
>Don't need to remember to make more like with engineering
Anon...
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>>584972279
How do people stand this? You aren't supposed to shit where you eat.
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>>584972406
No, its the PvP server.
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>>584972495
Horde is absolutely cucked.
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>>584971663
Skelf will probably unironically be the best race for degenerate hardcore server players due to the glide. At least after enough people permanently die from fall damage.
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>>584971743
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Having an urge to not play horde and just go alliance. Been flip flopping around what to play, i am even considering a human warlock or dwarf priest.
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>>584972124
its over when people stop posting about it
>>
I think im going nelf priest to mc people off cliffs
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>>584972806
Horde community has been ass but I'm a little concerned that the whole beta playing the opposite faction is a thing and these retards are going to go back to shit up alliance on live.
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>>584972902
Im afraid the alliance will be nothing but asmon zoomers, every alliance person i see is in one of those guilds.
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>>584972902
yeah i lvled to 30 as a shaman in beta and didnt really like most of the groups i ran with. Had a crash out during wetlands dungeon which was kinda funny desu, those raptors fucking slap. Also the CONSTANT asmon bitching on horde was worse than the actual asmon stuff
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>>584972902
I had a good time on alliance pve in the beta, but I normally like horde and switched it up for the beta. Kind of tempted to stay alliance now but then again I'm not sure how the asmontards situation will play out. I suspect it's a nothingburger and the factions are really gonna be about the same.
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>>584973009
they are pve its fine
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>>584971306
it doubles drink mana gain that isnt based on your spirit, it doubles many things that arent from spirit
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>>584973650
show proof



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